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A

Well, welcome everyone to the suffer communist stand up. We do this, the second thursday of every month we are really excited for today's meetup manuel will be showing us the senior frameworks and has been a while, and he has a lot of great things. So please stay tuned. This will be a great session.

A

As always, I want to encourage everyone to join our facebook group. I think that we are already 1600 members in the the linkedin joins the staff developers group followed stuff on twitter or, basically, all the new things that is happening in the in the framework. It's been published there, for example, right now in 21.2.5, you see that we already have the edit and the new actions.

A

We have the key channel that manual created, where still we have a lot of a questions and a lot of discussions there I want to point out to. I believe this is dom who created a new blog about sub. So I really always like really happy when I say these things: having community sharing more knowledge, making more articles making a video, so this makes our community grow. So thanks for uh the blog dom and please feel free to come check it out, he's offering training she's offering like a way, so everyone can showcase their work.

A

So er yeah happy with that. As always support center free of the tickets go for it. It has a lot of good knowledge there and today we're gonna be talking about the senior framework. So if you want to later research a little bit, we have a few videos about layout builder model builders, the overview of the framework assault, but I'm pretty sure my wife will give us today a complete walkthrough from beginning to end so feel free to ask as many questions as you have. We have two hours so manuel.

A

The the stage is yours: I'm gonna stop sharing and we can get on the presentation.

B

Hello friends, I'm manuel, I I'm not sure if everybody knows me or my death express mvp uh since a lot of years. Right now, uh I I'm heavily working on channel the last couple of years and it's like a battle tested framework uh on top of xav, so I just jumped into it. I started sharing my screen.

B

And hope nothing dies on me. So, let's get started. uh Can everybody see my screen?

B

Yes, yes, okay, okay, that's fine! So uh let's get into uh it really quick! I just show you a a couple of slides. um Example is basically the product from working with with xaf over the last couple of years or 10 years, uh and try to cover up some some uh problems. I encourage with working with stuff with the product when your uh project gets larger or you're, collaborating with more developers on a xaf application.

B

It doesn't mean you can you can't do it on uh with uh basic uh um ingredients? Xf provides, but cranial tries to mitigate some of the um problems that you can occur when, when you're working with a larger team base on a xav application, so what does it mean? It just means hostile and it does mean it doesn't get into your way. So uh basically, it's designed to jump in wherever you have a problem, or at least there is no deployment issues or or doesn't um introduce new uh dependency traps.

B

You might get into now with dotnet, six and or like the net five dot net core and all that stuff. It's getting better. But uh it doesn't get into your way. Just helps you to get the job done. um As said, it's a it's a framework around or around xf, it's highly modular.

B

If you worked ever again with with asp.net core, uh you notice is like uh you only pay for the uh for the bits you are um uh you need you want to use, you don't pay any performance costs or something like this on top of uh what you don't want to use, so you pick and choose, but your also can get the full experience, just add one line of code and then you're you're done and you'll get everything examined uh and, as I said, uh parts of general are that tested for over 10 years and grown over over the uh over the couple of times so uh getting into the major parts of daniel.

B

I rewrote this slide. I think in the last three years, like four times uh and now, the biggest change in the last generation uh is source generators uh and I'm getting into source generators in a little uh in a little bit, but it's basically allowing xenial to inspect your code and generating code that eliminates a lot of boilerplate or reflection code that otherwise would hit your performance when writing xcf applications or expo applications.

B

Then there's a bunch of dev tools around all. All of that. uh These, like uh small deployment tools, uh helpers to deploy your application by iis and and stuff like this, then there's a call framework uh where I see there is like uh a benefit uh where xf itself falls a little bit flat and there is a whole bunch of editor modules and other business modules that help you uh getting your application out quicker.

B

The last two parts: I'm not demoing today. It would uh uh it's just too much to to go through. But, for example, there are editors for for labels for token editors, uh uh webview 2, for example. If you need to embed a web page into your access web application and so on and so forth, okay, um any questions so far.

B

Okay, so uh then, let's jump right into uh general source generators um search. Generators are a rather new feature of the net sdk or wrestling compiler platform.

B

It started with top at 5, I guess, and it allows package developers or or really anybody to to write a code that can inspect the source code of the project and emit additional code into a user uses project, and what this allows is like. We can statically analyze the code of a project and emit uh code based on patterns.

B

So um the neat thing about this is it is like reflection, but without the runtime cost of reflection. So basically, if you, uh for example, mark a class with an attribute, so it's uh declared as a business object. For example, it doesn't uh need to pay the cost at runtime to be inspected and looked up. Is this kind of uh uh object or if this class part of your main uh um of, is this part of the business domain, for example? So it gets persisted to a database.

B

uh The second thing is: uh it allows to build some kinds of patterns and a tool belt for um easier.

B

Or at least easier easier, it's hard to it's a hard term. uh It allows at least to generate code uh that follows a specific pattern, so uh you can um intellisense through it and have some kind of compiler safety. uh If you change, for example, something.

B

uh About general framework we get into this. As I said, it's it's modular, uh you don't pay for the cost. You don't use and um there's two sides of the models. As I told you, if you are an expert in itself, there's a lot of stuff, you might think uh be interested, so you pick and choose your small bit of it or if you're, an xcf newbie uh just get everything and you will be happy as well thing is it's distributed.

B

Only we are look at, that's always uh the main idea behind channel it doesn't get into your way. There are no installers, no no hassle or something like this just uh help me getting my stuff done and uh wave through it.

B

So uh I talked a little bit about uh um uh source generators and framework, and both of them are like interconnected with each other. um You don't need to use source generators to use cell framework, uh but of course it's like similar source generators helps you to get the best out of both worlds. I guess- and um basically there are three things I want to cover real quick for framework. It's like model builders is the ability to apply attributes to business objects and business classes uh at runtime.

B

So it's it's like a dsl uh and helping you applying attributes like validation, rules or captions, or image names or all the the the glorious uh attributes. We know and love from from xf that apply them at a later stage um and that helps, for example, if you want to split up uh the domain specific code, where you say: okay, uh we don't want xaf to uh uh be a reference inside our domain model because we want to keep it clean or we have a more modular uh approach where we say.

B

Okay, we have customer a and now caption is a and, with customer b now catch miss b uh in two different assemblies like it's more a modular plugin based approach, their builders and column builders. I am going into in a really really that in-depth version.

B

Basically, what this allows you is to define and write, layouts or detail views and columns or list views totally in code uh without the need for a model builder or the supplement or together, and the reason why I think this is valuable is because they are focused on one small thing: it's not uh baked into one big file like the uh suffering file. So it's uh it's easier to reason about if your project is growing and growing.

B

For example, in my uh in one of my last, companies was like we had like 25 000 business objects, uh get an overhead in one big sample file that would be megabytes and megabytes large, so we decided to split them up and do it in code. Page objects is something I will cover, maybe in the future, video or a future stand up. It's the same thing, because we can now inspect your code. We can uh generate code that helps you test with functional on the integration creation tests.

B

Okay, uh then, I think it's time for for demo deep dive. So uh let me can you see everything so far.

C

Yes, everything looks fine.

D

B

So uh let me just real quick look: uh okay, uh I just created for that, uh for the sake of time, a new project, as you can see, it's 21 21 33, which is totally up and wrong.

B

So let me just real quick to uh search and replace here real quick. I think it's four right now replace only.

B

Okay, so let's save that and reopen that real, quick.

B

B

There's one thing, or at least, if you want to follow along with the documentation, you can go to docs.com.io, so everything I am currently showing is online, so the new package versions are out there and I hope it's rather well documented. So if you want to follow along, uh you can go through the documentation as well.

B

The only thing that doesn't currently work is is the laser demo, which died only a couple of hours ago or something like this, but it will be up in. I think tomorrow.

B

So good, then, let's, let's start with uh with a let's rebuild this and I'm currently. I am today focusing on wind forms, but this uh it works with blazer as well. So um just for the sake of time, I am where's my rebuild button. uh Just for the sake of time, I'm only focusing on winforms today.

B

So let's grab some code.

B

Oh there, it is.

B

There it is so.

B

So, okay, let's, let's start up that real quick.

E

E

What's the problem.

D

What's the problem.

C

The problem is that it's demo time and you know when you start.

E

E

Could computer says chill a little bit yeah.

C

This everywhere is close. Alright, so it doesn't get shy.

C

E

This is the slow.

B

B

Let's watch task manager do its thing.

B

Boy, it's slowing down.

C

And that's the physical hardware right I mean you're, not visualizing your machine. No, it's not virtualized.

D

B

Virtualizes it it will burn down.

C

Yeah sometimes it happens to me because I neutralize my I mean I'm I'm from in linux. Actually, why eating two kicks of ram.

B

Is this the right one? I'm not! I have no idea, so uh let's really do a quick. I think I have to restart this. um Let's just start it up, so we can get a quick look. How it's looking.

B

um Any questions so far about model builders and stuff like this are: are people here in the room that uh never saw model builder so far,.

C

uh Well, like in the chat, no one have tell anything about the mobile builders, but if you want to show them, it would be good. Actually, I think, okay like if you can go.

B

I will I will get into them anyway. It's just uh uh I. I will start with the uh with the neat stuff. First, because model builders isn't a nice technology, but I don't see it as valuable anymore, as I did a couple of years ago, because now xaf or at least the core of xf, is not that standard.

B

So you don't have the problem anymore, uh when you, for example, want to use your domain object in a summary project, for example,.

C

Yeah, I I mean for us, was kind of the same, because we recompiled developer express source code to be compatible with uh with.

D

C

uh But we did it when, like a really long time ago, like three or four years ago, where there was no other way to do it, it's like, and it was really a pain. uh I know.

D

That for sure, can I move the.

B

Oh, I can move that to the other screen. Okay. So then, um basically, we had an empty, uh an empty application and I just copied a bunch of.

B

B

Which is basically a person that it is so it's nothing too fancy, uh and I think I need to do this this way. Okay, that looks fine to me. So basically, we have a person with after construction, first name address and so and so forth. So uh let me just rename this to person real, quick and uh just start it. So we get a quick look. How.

B

What uh xf is going to generate for us on the fly.

B

Okay, so we have a person here with address first and last name bar and we, if you create a new person, it looks like this. So basically that's fine and now you can. You could jump in and uh open the model editor and uh define the layout in the model. Editor like uh like dragon, dropping stuff and uh doing the visual designer thing.

B

Like going to the layout customizing the layout and doing all that kind of stuff, but in general we don't have to do that. So the first thing I'm going to do is I'm installing senior.

B

It should be online on nuget.org and we don't need to include prereleases. So we just include samuel. Current version is 031, so we're just going to install it.

B

Yeah and I state that in the uh in the documentation we we just need to tell.

B

To tell xf that we want to use that extension, so we need to override the ad generator, update the scope and add that line of code. So just go we're going to do this. One right now go to the module.

B

No, this is normally not overwritten, so with overwrite adds.

B

Generator updaters updaters use preset updaters.

B

Use uh two layers, and now we can start to uh to use them. So basically what we need to do, uh and I I'm going the quick route right now, because there are several options you can apply a layout. Basically, everything you need to do is to tell a daniel which method to use when building layouts. So it's the detail view.

B

No, it's detail, you! Oh no! It's layout.

B

I'm detailed new layer builder.

B

Okay, but normally now I it would be fine to add a method, a static method in this class to define the the uh the layout static that just returns a layout.

B

The layout is located in federal framework, face item space and it needs to be called build layout, but I am skipping this in the sake of time and I'm going to add a new class which is a layout builder. So it's a person layout builder.

B

And it's a public class that derives from layout builder of person.

B

So make sure to use the right person and everything we need to tell to examine right now is okay. This is the layout builder I want to. This is the wrong namespace.

B

Should be the same, and so we tell a channel use this this builder and just and just say, okay.

B

See a method build layout that returns a little.

F

B

So, let's start.

B

So basically, everything we told uh generate now is okay. There is a layout and normally now it should be empty. When we start the application, nothing.

B

We should see an empty uh person detail view because we told the framework there is no don't display anything, because it's just an empty layer.

B

Okay, we have a listview, but now we have an empty application or an empty view, and if you look at that code in the model editor, you clearly can see it just.

B

It is an empty layout just with a main node. Nothing fancy. Of course there are some items in there, but the layout is empty. So no, not restart.

B

Okay, um because we are uh deriving from layout builder and we can use some cool new features from from c sharp. uh We can can be here, I'm not 100 sure, but it doesn't matter. uh We can use initializer syntax to fill that layout, for example, with a property editor and the property editor, for example, accepts a lambda expression, for example, email that will translate to.

B

B

The uh which will translate that string into a format that the uh editor knows. Okay, this is a string editor uh and it's um it's called email. So basically it's transforming the lambda expression into a string.

B

So, let's start it up real quick.

B

Wherever it is,.

B

There, it is, if we add new, we have just the email property so basically we're good to go to start, um but that's really really really really late to um to use.

B

So, basically, that's where I jump in right now with uh with the source generators, because there is one problem with this kind of uh of declaration is this needs to be evaluated at runtime and we need. We know everything about the email property upfront.

B

So basically, we can use source generators to help us out. So just we are going to add a new package.

B

A set okay and all we need to do- is to mark this class as partial and now there's one really important step after we install uh the package we can see under the analyzers, at least, if you're, in visual studio, 19 6 or later, you can see we're now having here the external framework generators node.

B

The only thing we need to do after we install the package is to restart visual studio, because generators are loaded up at the start of the of the solution, so they don't get picked up by intellisense and the first.

B

Any questions so far.

C

uh Yes, we have a question in the chat from uh dear friend of the community, which is jp. uh Basically he's asking like. If samuel is, the version of daniel is dependent on the version of or.

B

Yeah, currently it is uh normally I try to uh keep up with the latest version uh of of self, but it isn't that hard on the dependency side. The only thing is, I keep some private feeds for special uh for customers if they are on an older version.

B

uh The the latest versions published from seconial are are the latest that uh deaf express provides. So everything on nougat is the latest version of of.

C

Yeah- and I have another question from my side actually manuel is like- um is senior bill automatically against the devexpress version, that, if yes, for example, if yesterday.

D

C

Version will we have it uh when we have similar versions that match with that uh devexpress version.

B

Yeah, uh if devexpress uh releases a new version, it's normally a couple of days until the next version uh gets live, it is automatically.

B

But if you need a an older version, I need to jump in and say: okay, we need to build for this or a build for that.

B

Doesn't answer the question. Yes, I think something yeah yeah, but that's that's, underpaid support. So, okay, uh good, we installed the uh uh second framework and now the neat thing is. We declare this as a partial class.

B

The reason why we need to declare it as the partial class is because now source generators clicking and generate code on our behalf, but we only can add source. We can't manipulate source. We just can add source files based on uh your source and if I want to bring something in scope for uh for this particular um scenario, you need to mark it as partial. It's like in wind forms where, if you code behind and your code, it's the same thing around, but the the code behind is more like it's helping.

B

You uh define your uh uh source code. So uh instead of writing property editor, lambda expression, email. Now we have a class that's generated in the background. It's called editor.

B

An editor is basically a collection of all properties that are defined in person in the class person, and now we have everything. Okay, there are some properties that shouldn't be here, but, for example, email and now we have exactly the same procedure as before it does. It just generates a string, layout, property, editor item.

B

As you can see, I don't have uh uh assuming installed, but that it knows email is a string, and now I can do all kind of stuff around this. So if we start it again, then hopefully we see the same screen as before.

C

Manuel, I have another question: basically is what are the requirements on on the studio because source generator, they don't work with every version of the studio.

F

C

If you can walk us through to the little details about the requirements in the studio, the requirements on the cs project, because I guess you have to have a specific version of the official language from him, so, uh okay, I mean you, don't have to do it right now. You uh explain that when.

B

C

Makes sense, but I.

B

Guess it would be.

C

It's no problem.

B

If you are using visual studio, 2019, 69 or higher, and you need to have installed the dot net, 5, sdk or greater, then you're ready to go no matter if you are on full framework or dotnet core or 54.6 or something. The only thing is, the tooling has to be visual studio, 2019.9.

B

Or 2122, as I'm using right now and at least.net 5 sdk, because with 0.5 sdk rosslyn got the feature to load uh uh source, generate generators from nougat. That's everything you need.

B

Basically, that's that's the thing so now we are able to write the whole. uh uh We are able to write a whole layout in in code. uh Let's do a just a quick editor dot. First name, editor dot; last name: okay, let's group them together, for example, with a horizontal group and then group them together like this.

B

uh Let's put this full name uh and then say: horizontal group um editor dots.

B

B

What do we have here now phone? Let's take phone.

B

Okay, so basically that just uh uh reiterates on on what we already know, there are a lot of overloads uh how to do: grouping and taps and all that kind of stuff, and I'm not going to dive too deep into all that api stuff. But there's one thing I wanted, because you can see: there's tons of overloads that are designed to write, really concise and and and nice layout code. But there's one thing I wanted. I wanted to show, uh so you can see uh it's good to do so. Okay, that's, basically, basically fine!

B

So what I'm going to do now is like something I really really dreamed of a long long long long time, uh and that is how to reload uh for the people that don't know how to reload it's um uh basically edit and continue framework uh edit and continue is a feature since dotnet 2.

B

I guess or something like this, where you can change code inside when you're in a debugging session on the fly, uh and that means you can uh hit a break, break point change your code and uh use and write your breakpoint breakpoint to a point where it really evaluates the code.

B

Now we've got that six.

B

Microsoft decided hey. This is a cool feature. Why don't we build it in the whole project uh product and I'm just going to um add a feature at a registration and that's the controller types.

C

Manuel in the meantime, while you're doing that uh there is one more question is like: uh is the hotel feature working for all the platforms or is only for some of them? Yes, so it will work for laser waveforms and windows forms at.

B

The moment yeah, uh it doesn't work for blaze or at the moment, because there are some uh issues in xcf itself.

B

It would work technically, but currently only uh with forms is supported for hot reload and it works with six and all full framework. The only thing is uh it works for full framework, but it doesn't work for automatic refresh. So I I will show this in a minute.

B

So basically everything I'm doing is like okay use, single windows for controllers. Here, like the dropped in uh replacement like before, uh and now, let's just try it out.

B

And the main reason why it doesn't work on full framework is uh out of the box. Is there is a runtime feature in dotnet six that allows you to detect a change from the compiler and this api just doesn't exist, but the replacing of the el code at runtime is working. So just look here: it's like new.

B

Open it, I just wanted to do a screenshot.

B

Okay here is hot reel on the enable if every camera can see this. So this is a controller that marks the application we got hot reload enabled, and that means now we can open our our view and open our uh our class and our builder.

B

I'm just going to want to go there no wrong one here: okay, watch closely.

E

I'm hitting save.

E

Nothing happens.

D

Yeah, oh you're, failing oh you're, failing.

B

No where's it failing.

B

Why are you feeling that is.

C

Yeah I mean you know that I have that uh kind of problem with the how they load the stuff, that uh the sensation that you got where you're modifying code, while you're.

D

That shouldn't happen.

B

Let's try again at least it did address one.

B

Let's try again.

B

Oh I know I know I disabled, hopefully.

B

No, it's are you. Why are you not cooperating? It cooperated before I'll put nothing okay, just let's stop this real, quick, um let's go into. Maybe if I because I have another session running, I can't think about this.

B

Let's try this one.

B

Okay, basically, I have here an application, that's the main demo from xf. So let's uh open employee, say employee detail view. So let's get to the and go to the employee.

B

No that's dying so called reload is enabled. Let's try again details.

D

B

B

Why it's not compiling.

E

B

It is it should, if I go to a reload, it didn't recompile.

B

Damn you, let's try real quick.

E

There's this hot reload button.

B

That's a bummer.

C

Manuel, if you want, while you figure it out, I can show some. I have like two small demos for blazer and sure and then we'll come back to you, so really really small. It's like just uh like you know like a snake review of of what we're doing in the office. So I will take over from here and just let me know when you are ready to continue.

C

um It would take like five to ten minutes, so it's going to be kind of really really fast yeah. Then, let's do my uh stop mine yeah.

C

I was associating my screen, so let me tell me if you're seeing the studio, yeah, okay um well guys. So basically it's like we're working a lot in later. As you all know, um we believe is the future actually and we're aiming um to basically uh focus all our efforts in basil, because you know like with electron, you can run blazer as a desktop version.

C

Basically so at least all my personal development, the one that I do that is open source, uh is basically totally black, so I'm not doing anything on windows forms or web phones at the moment. So here I have like two small demos that I want to show you.

C

uh Some of them will be part of ultra, which is the the open source framework that I have for for sas, and actually we will do a cleanup and a freewrite of ultra, basically because we want uh everything to match with the new um project uh structure, like you know, like we come from from the net framework, which was bigger, so we're moving to the sdk type of project. So let me close this. This basically is a um it's an application that I'm working for my family. For my brother, he owns a business.

C

He owns a marketing agency, so it will be used to automate campaigns for marketing. So let's run this for a second, and you know demo guys I I was using this like two weeks ago, working with my brother and then I opened this this morning and some stuff just crashed in front of me. So you know how it is right. So, let's start.

C

And I was asking manuel if his computer was like a virtual machine and actually I'm running a visual machine. So that's why it's a little bit slower. But I hope, like it's like fast enough.

C

Okay, so here uh you will see basically a mess on the navigation item, as you can see, I'm using a different template. This is not the normal one. The navigation is not on the left. It's actually in this menu here. So the first one that I want to show is.

C

We have a web forms builder, so let me show you first, the one that I already have built and then we will build one from scratch. Basically, so um this is like a simple contact form with email and name. So, let's open the other one.

C

So let's go to forms um contact form two. This is a little uh different. As you can see, you have here the um like a header, a grouping and then you have the mobile phone. So uh let's start one from the sketch like a new one.

C

So let's close all of this um close and close and let's create a new record.

C

Okay, so, as you can see here is like this is what we have from like from zero. So um basically you have done a small customization here like to this will be like the toolbox on visual studio that you can pick which controls you want. um We just create some basic controls at the moment, but you can actually create uh any type of customized, um basically control. So let's start with a layout small layout. So let's.

C

Let's add some tabs, so listen, I know. What's up, it will be my main info. uh This will be. The second tab will be details. I mean I'm making up this at the moment, so this is how it's going to look like. So, let's save it, and now we have two tabs here and, as you can see below, you can see the code that is being generated by the component by this component. So this, basically the information is saved like in a json file.

C

Somehow so you can edit visually or you can edit actually the json file. At this moment we are using a simple text box editor for this case, but we, I will show that later, that we have uh monaco built in also monaco is the code editor that is used by visual studio code. So at this moment just it's a formatted json, but it can.

C

It can be changed to to have a full fresh editor here. So let's drag some some components right so um at excel, uh and I want this section to be named.

C

The label position will be on top see. Here is the preview that we have and basically that's anything that I want. uh You can change the input marks, prefix, suffix uh label and even into- and you can also add, like a different css class. If you want, but at the moment I will leave it as it is, and then you have some other properties where you can set how you will uh send the data to to whatever is going to be processing the forms, uh validations and some other logic like this.

C

This is like really feature reach control, so I'm just going to display the basic example. So let's say this so see the this code is growing. So as a more control that I add, you will see more the jsons getting bigger. So then there's a maybe a phone number and I will leave it as release.

C

um But what I'm going to do and what I kind of really like about this- is that whatever control we're showing you here, uh even though they are not their express components, they are picking up on the on the team. So, for example, if I save this and if I select a different theme, everything will match exactly with their express components, even though I repeat, this is not a.

C

This is not a devexpress component at all, but since we're sharing the bootstrap classes for this, uh when we change the the theme it will change basically or form so actually most of the time. I use this one that I kind of really like. I don't know why, uh because I guess I I used to use this um this tool to make a wireframe.

C

um I don't remember the name, it's an italian framework, uh what it's basamic! uh Well, I don't recall at all the name of that yeah. I I kind of look I kind of love. This look um well like you can make as bigger form as you want and you have tabs or all type of stuff for the layout. You can even have uh stuff for, like captchas and stuff like that, for example like a file upload.

C

So, as you can see, it can get as complex as you want, and here you have like some tools like if you want to move this on the layout. If you want to go and check the settings or reset it or if you want just to copy the control, you can do this and then you paste it or remove it of course, and then you have a detail here. You can add some other stuff. Let us I don't know what else to add.

C

So I will add an email here and the other thing that I wanted to show you is that there is such a good communication between the visual designer and the source that is being generated um because, for example, see you have like here many infant details.

C

So here you have that code right, so here's main info and then you have the details, uh so you, if it's nested right. So what I'm going to do is a small demo like a really simple demo. So this will be called um personal information and, let's hope the demo gods are with me. In this case you missed a quote at the beginning thanks.

C

So let's try to save this see and now it's refreshing so you're releasing the json side and you're getting that output exactly on on on the ui. So so far, this is what I want to show for the builder, but we have a small functionality that is like the preview form.

C

So here is this is rendered as it should look like on the for the end user, and this is, I thought I just fixed this, but I didn't uh this is supposed to be hidden in some cases and this text will supposed to not show in here but anyway. uh What I wanted to show is that these forms, when you submit them, they generate a json for you and send that json somewhere.

C

So if you have a wave api, you can catch that json and just process it as you want it, or in this case I mean we are mixing this with uh the gene virtual machine that we have created. uh I have showed the gene machine several times in the in the meetup so because I kind of love um you know scripting.

C

So in this case, for example, let's say that we see in the preview. This is what the end user will see and they what will they will feel, of course right. So for name jose mann.

C

You know spanish name, this is my real name. It's not ho chi, so jose manuel and believe it or not. My parents both have three names and three last names. So this is the short version of my name uh and then let's see phone number, let's get anyone. I mean. I don't have the number anymore like like six years ago or something like that. So let's just delete those invalid numbers there and, as you can see here, the the validation is kicking in. So let's hold on this, I cannot demo effect.

C

So um I cannot clear this or my keyboard is not working at the moment uh but anyway. So I will cancel this and I will show the preview again. uh So, let's just say the name, oh is my keyboard. That was not working. Yes, uh yes, now it's working so name, let's say.

C

Okay and phone number, so I will fill it completely see if the evaluation was spinning, but the video about it is that when you submit you will see the json that was produced by the form. So here it will give you all the information about the form plus the values of the phone, so you can go and grab that json somewhere else and process it as you want. You decide what to do with it. So I think it's kind of a neat uh functionality, if you want to add custom forms.

B

May I ask a question so basically, this is like you're creating a form of on the fly or in the database, and then you you've got this uh json information, json block and then it's like it is a little bit decoupled from from xs.

C

From the model it's like, you don't have to have a business, something that represents this.

C

There are a few ways that uh we are one we will um basically add functionality to this.

D

C

Is uh sending this to the same soft api because, as you know, guys have released that a new api that basically all your business model, is exposed as a open api? I think- and so you have like all the methods and so on and so forth. So uh we have not explored that way, even though we know it's possible because the first version send this to an api.

C

uh If you remember that I show I show like a middleware api like in different versions of laser, so it is not the same one uh developer express is providing at the moment, so we want to add compatibility for that, but that is not done yet on their side, so we're waiting for it, because we don't want to put a lot of effort in that and then just try to you know to the archive of forgotten code, so yeah sure.

C

So this is one of the different functionalities, but the one that I really like in the end is again. This is like everyone knows. The fixation that I have with with scripting right. So the main idea here will be something like this. Let's see if we have here the the component, so we'll have a form component in general, which is a mix of here's. The code of that generates the form right, but in here you can associate this uh with with uh basically with uh one of the scripts that we have created.

C

These are the names of the speed so for.

D

C

So that would receive the json as an input parameter and then in this field you do whatever you want and as.

D

C

Before you can use the object space, you can create objects, you can do whatever you want. So it's a really big mix because it can provide you with uh basically runtime applications. You drag and drop some stuff. You match it to the right.

B

It's like it's like a dynamic.

C

B

It's like the world creator, but a little bit of steroids, but a little bit, but.

C

B

It is like on asteroids.

C

Without having asteroids inside because we have not modified that much the circle of stuff or none at all, really not in basic and actually in the scripting, you can spin up a new data layer, update the and then just create a database for this form. So you can go crazy deep when I start making this design it's like. Yes, yes, yes, I don't have to write anything on design time anymore. I can do like ninety percent of runtime.

C

If I want, of course, that's really the purpose and but it's really interesting to know how deep or how far you can go with a tool like this.

E

We should we should we should pair up on this, because I found.

C

That yeah no and also uh what I wanted to show that is like the other part of this is- and this was inspired actually by manuel here. um Let's, let's see, where is the object, so ultra function, so this is paired with the ultra function, so I showed the gene property 8 or before, and so that's called now ultra functions. So, for example, um we include.

C

Monaco, so basically uh we can uh include everything that is included on the mona collector from vs code. It works online. uh I have some just kind of silly stuff to show here, like uh changing the the contrast changing the you know. The theme- and this also match with the team from from the south application so see like the bottoms, are changing and everything. I don't know why the code is not being highlighted at the moment.

C

I guess because I I changed the the team so many times, but anyway, it's like here, you write your functions that will receive the json file and you can do as many crazy stuff as you want. um So, let's I will stop at this for a second, because I want to show the highlighting and everything, because I try to do that with we. They build in rich, texas and stuff, like that, it was possible to do it in windows form but not in place or an or web form.

C

You can just apply the the the coloring stuff at one moment. So that was not what I wanted. So in the end I decided to go with monaco. uh The only thing that this is pure blazer, so um there is no. uh There are no better for this module for windows form just later, because uh of course this is an open source project and we're always running out of time. I mean there is no programmer who have like a bunch of time to do nothing.

C

So I'm trying to put as much time as I can from my personal time in this case um to have the full implementation, the the form builder, will not be open source, but the code editor will be open, so it will be part of ultra in general.

C

So when we finish the cleanup the cleanup in ultra and we have the new layout of the pro x and the solution, how we want it, uh we will release this on open source and don't ask me when it's going to be updated because as any open source stuff, you need more hands right.

C

So, uh just let me show you the the um the highlighting of in the code and then we can move uh back to manual demonstration, I'm just making some time so uh here, for example, this one and see now we have the highlighting and everything that works in monaco is working here. I have not implemented all the functions, but, for example, you can see uh okay, um for example.

C

This is a function that we're just calling we're just calling this function that is defining here and you can do stuff like in the studio like, for example, go to definitions, and you go up and highlight that I didn't create a code. That's part of monaco. Again, that's nice! That's really nice yeah! uh You can show the command palette and you can, for example, the command palette will be something like portraits for me in this case, but we cannot have cutters because it can create a little piece of snippets that we have already created.

C

uh I have not included any any sleep at the moment. I was working on that like uh two weeks ago, um but then we had a lot of other things to do so.

C

The combination of the ultra function and the form editor, if you put them together, it gives you a really really powerful tool to do a lot of stuff in runtime, and this came as a requirement from my brother, because uh when you work for marketing- and I don't know if any one of you have done- a prayer for advertising or marketing- they give you the requirements at midnight and it needs to be published in the morning so and you need to change it in hot. Basically, so there is no time to recompile redeploy.

C

You need to be able to do all of this stuff in the application running. So uh my brother used to tell me like, let's make a system for this. Let me get before that and as soon as I did the first version, it was not like that anymore. So I got like super tired of working with him, because the requirement always changed like every two minutes and that's every customer in general. It's not like just my brother, but so I came up with this kind of clever solution to okay.

C

I will make description for for you as much as you want, and I don't have to recompile anymore and I can even create a new data layer there or as many data as I want just to save whatever objects that we're creating through the forms. So uh that's basically my my two cents for today uh manuel. How are you like? uh Should we continue yup on your continue that that stuff is really really really really.

B

Awesome uh and I thought about you.

E

B

Yeah but but I think we we should get together on on that kind of uh uh stuff and and and.

C

For ultra, if anyone wants to give me a hand with cleaning up making demos on the stuff like that, there are only like five modules, but but they think they're really useful. So.

D

I will put that one for the.

C

Community later on.

B

uh I I I think they are really really valuable uh pieces of code and I think it's it depends on.

D

What you want to achieve, of course, it yeah every single.

C

D

In the end, it's like uh go.

C

Crazy do as many cases stuff as you want. Actually you can go really really quickly with this uh yeah.

B

C

B

Thing that the the thing is what what? What do you want to achieve and uh if you have like such a dynamic environment, where, where every time everyday uh uh requirements change.

C

And yeah for in this case I'm doing this for advertising. So we want to be able to get information from a new campaign. Yeah your application, but yeah.

E

C

You need to update them all the the you know. That's.

E

C

So that's that's.

E

That's the thing I never.

B

Thought of uh xf is really good at like uh uh use it as a car and then do this kind of additions on top of xf and do like marketing campaigns and then and like it's it's reaching out into the public. uh And you.

C

Have like this small little bit? Basically all of these manuals started from this idea. It's like I wrote because yeah developer express like hey. I want to move my my personal blog from wordpress to stuff itself, because I don't want all php plugins that you know like the plugin mess up that. Yes, I update this, but that the one didn't release the new version and it started crashing everywhere. So I don't touch my blog for that. I wanted.

D

To show people and.

C

Stop that okay, I just create a proper theater. I just want to include it in my own blog right and I don't want to repeat and everything so the idea came from that I I bothered gausha and denis and everyone in the support center for this asking crazy questions and, as always, they're truly truly helpful and they give me uh examples, another reference from other tickets, so you know those guys are great, and I really appreciate your effort on this, so I will stop talking because otherwise I will go crazy with this.

C

So back to you, manuel okay, you can start again.

B

Okay, so uh I really I thought that was the mind-blowing guest demo. I saw a lot a long time, so let me share my screen again.

B

uh I am back and the only thing that was missing was one button.

E

But that's democrats, that was the thing. That's balsamic. It's awesome.

D

ah But something my family was really yes, yeah. That's that's a wireframing tool.

B

It's really cool, I used it a lot in the past, it's really really cool uh and the neat thing is like it looks like it's a.

B

It isn't finished and that's the nice thing about it. So, if you're working with clients that don't have a real uh sense, how long something may take, or just it's making clear that it's just a prototype and I'm not paid by balsamic, it's just uh showing you if I can show something like this to a customer.

B

He feels like okay.

B

It may like look something like this, but it's not the final.

C

Product, no, I mean it's also good to I mean to not um you know, to have like the core idea. You want to have something simple, because if you have something too real, they will see the real application. They will start asking for functionality.

C

So exactly this is a drawing it's like in a paper, but in the in the screen so and that's why we now jump.

B

Dive really into real things: yeah, that's that's, basically, our imagination, and now we are jumping into white coat. So uh we have our idea.

B

We have our uh basic uh um layout and if I switch to the code, if windows 11 is cooperating, uh the only thing I was missing is there is the hot reload button and of course I was uh um into hot reload a lot of a lot of months right now, and there is this hot reload on save and if I hit this hot grid open, save button, you can see it's like hot reload, restart application, how to reload on file, save and press the settings page and now, let's get into whole reload, and now you can see, there's full name, first, name, nothing, fail and uh and phone and now just come right here and to edit the email.

B

Thank you visual studio and I we will hit save and here in the corner down below. You will see, item save and now it should to change.

B

Again, no, it isn't here, it is.

E

Let's put it again, I'm deleting this here's, the here's email, I'm saving.

E

Look. Look, look, look, look! Look! Oh! No! It's it's gone.

B

And if I do that back again it time- and I have it says- whoa it's here so what does this mean? We can build a whole layout at runtime or not at runtime. It's like building a layout, compile time like it would be forever, but we have like the real application with the real data like with.

B

On uh okay, just save this okay, that's that's the real data and I'm switching and it's like instant okay. So what does this mean for uh our our code? So uh I really just missed that one button, so um I am going to copy some code from uh no here.

B

I'm going to copy this whole bunch of it's a lot of code, but it should.

B

Okay, that seems fine.

B

No wrong one, this one, let me save it.

C

No okay, it looks like you're missing some name, spaces uh yeah. No! No! That's! That's! Not a problem.

B

The problem is, um we can minimize this for now. The problem is, um we have like.

B

uh We have like, like person and person, has like a group and there's an editor and an image and all that kind of stuff. But the problem is we want to display uh stuff from I'm not going to do a lot of.

B

uh um We need to display stuff from address one and address two and address one and address two are just properties uh of person, and normally we we use expand, object members to uh deal with this, and what is this going is like doing everest one areas, one dot and then what is called client.street.city.

B

And so on and so forth and the problem is uh we can't access this, because when we look at layout builder and that's the first time, I'm jumping in into into source generators anyway, that's all the source channel is generating for you. uh You can see, there's a constant for every field and then you have like the property editors, but if we want to access uh nested properties, we need to tell senior to uh use this so you're using senior dot, expand. Member club like uh before with the expand, object members. It's like sending expand.

B

Member and now we can use the already generated constants, so constants dot, and we want to expand address one, and we also want to expand it with two and I didn't even save so far, and you now can see, there's a whole lot of code generated just for those those two types, and now I just have to import the namespace and I'm ready to go and start the ship.

B

Takes a couple of seconds of my machine right now.

E

That looks unique.

B

Okay, let's open that up. Okay, we are here.

B

And now we have.

E

B

Here and here so basically, we now have a whole view or detail view uh generated, but now without reload we can really now we have to wait a little second and now bam.

B

Now we have reload in here and okay that works fine for layout so far. But what about options in for the detail view? So we can go and say new detail view options or new new if you're using the latest features, for example, allow let's say enable group layout images is true: okay,.

B

Doesn't do much, let's do okay uh image name like vo underlined person. No, of course we made a mistake because there is a comma missing, save it bang it, and now we have an image here.

B

So uh you can mix and and work on the layout like it would would be in the in the in the designer. But it's in your application at runtime with that data, you're working.

C

B

C

Actually, that's super neat manually in the sense that uh I am not like. I almost never never ever use the the model 8 or the visual editor in general, I use the the node generator updaters, uh which is more like a cumbersome approach. I mean you can still do almost uh the same as you did, but with a lot more code- and I mean a lot and also you don't have to reload a lot and you have.

B

To reload and uh and now we are very or for example, I just.

C

This comes from my side, actually not from the chat, and it's like which model are you generating in this case? Is that the agnostic model I mean updating the layout in the agnostic model or in the windows for false models? No okay,.

B

From a technical perspective, everything we write, you right here is totally.

C

So basically, you can do this like the hot reload using the windows version, just to figure it out visually and then just uh from the blazer version, and you will have the same structure in the layout.

B

Yes, the basic thing is like hot reload just works in wind forms, because there are limitations in blazer right now. It will work in the future. There is a ticket open at the fx present. They uh didn't um account for this problem right now, because what we love is quite rather new, uh but the thing is uh everything you can write in exaggerated layouts is basically platform. Agnostic, diving into a platform.

B

Agnostic code is out of the scope for this demo, because there are some things uh that are different, because uh you can, for example, write this whole layout completely for wind forms, and then you will have wind farm specific.

B

Stuff, but it's not the goal, it's the goal to be as agnostic as possible and then, for example, have visitors and stuff like this to change, sp, bits and bytes here and there. But the main idea is like okay: what's do 90 percent encode and do little tweaks in the example and that will solve more than eighty percent of the of the of the troubles you have in larger teams.

C

Yeah, I don't need to do it. I will use that approach because it's like for me if I cannot touch them at all, I'm happy with it not because not because.

B

I have a chat just just just to give you an uh an example. This is the main demo and the main demo. It's it's really it's it's really. Let me, uh where is the the demo here? It is. This is the demo that is like the main demo clone from xf that got delivered with every every uh release that let me uh stop real, quick, the other one, the community stand-up thing, because we are jumping into into columns real quick.

B

But the thing is uh this is the main demo and I I try to rewrite the whole demo without a single line of traffic.

B

Okay, this is the new one. uh The the xf.

B

One okay: here it is- and now I am having here over here, the main demo and it's rewritten- uh and I am opening this with uh with uh xml editor and you can see there is like okay, there is, there is stuff there, it's getting lit, lesser and lesser and lesser, but we are on 160 lines of of code and most of them are just code. I didn't board it yet. So it's not that I can't port it. It's just most of the code is like nothing. It is um uh is important.

B

So, let's switch to, uh let me open that location.

C

Manuel just to give your heads up with the with the time, uh if, depending so, you can manage depending what you want to show or not uh yeah like around 30, more minutes and from that like.

C

Will be usable for you because.

D

C

To leave like 10 minutes for questions in the end so uh make your time there what you want to show or what you think is more important.

B

However, uh uh there is like 600 or 1000 lines of software code uh to generate the layouts for like employee list you and all that kind of stuff. If you it's a lot of stuff in the code and uh what I wanted to show is like, um but here uh there's the solution explorer. uh It is like every every class has like a column builder as a layout builder, and it's like it's a small amount of code like uh uh when we compare it.

B

So can we do this like this.

B

Okay, one is in german and one is in english, but I think I hate windows 11, sometimes.

B

I come here come over.

B

So- and you can see it's it's basically a clone, and here the only thing that that differs is like. I have enabled images here and if I switch over uh to the to the studio.

B

And hide summer preview and they say: okay, it's false. If I hit save.

E

B

B

Exactly the same, besides some relative sizes and that language, so basically the thing that enables you is like iterate quickly on on layouts or stuff like this, in your application on your real data and what I'm going to show you now, it's like it's the same idea uh idea, but it's uh based on columns and columns is the same thing like. um Let's stop this, uh I don't think I need the main game anymore.

B

uh Let's do the community thing no wrong window. Let's close this down, so my computer kind of relax a little bit uh so we saw how to build the layout with without reload, but we can do the same thing with uh with volumes. So do a column uh list view volumes.

B

If I can type.

B

Thank you and then, of course, I need to do a columns builder. I need another class for that ah and go and add another class at.

E

Class, thank you.

B

And we have again a public parcel, powerful.

B

Okay, then we again need volumes of columns. Of course this works again uh with list with lookup list views, but then it would be called build, lookup columns, but for now it's fine so and then I just can say: okay, column and then say: first name last name now, let's make this awesome just started.

B

And then I just wanted to show.

B

Two or three minutes more of the other stuff, that's really awesome uh and really helpful.

B

um This is like the whole holy grail of being able to introspect um how our model code looks like versus what will be represented on the screen.

B

Okay, oh of course, I forgot something really really important.

B

Because I only told uh daniel use the detail, view builders use the list, you build this as well, or the colored billions.

B

Normally you're going to add 10 yell and then add 10 module and you're done like channel all.

B

But because because we are slicing here, feature sizing.

B

But here we go with first name.

E

Let's do column.

E

Last name save.

D

First time takes a couple of seconds, at least on my machine. uh One.

C

Question manuel is like, since this is basically codes, it means that somehow it can be data driven if it's needed, of course, yeah. Of course,.

B

It could be, it could be data driven, but um it it is like a declarative syntax for uh a thing, but you could do like.

C

If else stuff here I mean yeah, I mean uh you you, I mean this phrase, I will I got it from you, it's only code, so you can do whatever you want.

E

Yeah this is but but.

B

Basically, it's like first name last name: okay to do another column, column phone number, for example, or email, save it the second. It's now instantly there. uh Let's do a with expression now we're in in record syntax, and you can deep dive into documentation.

B

For example, I do the width of 50, for example, save it then we're seeing immediate response, what uh uh what it's, uh what it should like uh look like, and if I go to over to the documentation, uh for example, for the source generator syntax, it's everything is uh documented and if I, for example, you can, for example, do um introduce listview specific stuff, because all we did so far is like um defining columns, but we also have least view options, so uh that are only visible to applicable to the listview.

B

So, for example, the captions the group header visible the autofill the row, for example false.

B

Then it's gone or hey it's back uh or with grouping and all the kind of stuff, and the same thing I showed before, like with the ex with the external uh expand member, also works here. So um that's the neat stuff about uh where's, my no!

B

B

I think my window died, uh but that's the thing about volume, builders and layout builders and source generators, but the neat thing about source generators.

B

I think my opinion is: they are much more capable of doing stuff uh on the long run, because if my window will cooperate with me, so um there are like a couple of source generators built in and a lot of time you are going to need um or having a hard time working with all the conventions that are built into uh into excess.

B

So let me do a quick recap of view. Ids.

B

B

B

And expo windows: we can go into that viewer. This is a really interesting one, because if you have a partial class needs to be parcel, and then you generate it with general view ids.

B

It will pick up any object or any class inside that assembly. That is persistent, not persistent or a domain object and what it will generate.

B

It's like a person did that viewer person, this pure person, look at this to an addresses list. View detail, viewer lookup listed, so it's it's basically following the same conventions that xav provides- and the neat thing is. uh You can use that in your uh in your attributes, for example, uh if like model default or model exported, uh let's do it like uh xf display name or do it uh xf display name.

B

Let's say I have display name. I can't type.

B

Or it's display name yeah, and then you can view these and then use the constant inside an attribute what you can't do with model node id helpers, for example, but the neater thing I guess: okay, it's not it's not valid on this side but, for example, there's another one and it's called uh image names and the image names also is like public or internal partial, and now you can define it as samuel.

B

Image names, so where are the images coming from? Of course they are coming from the images directory like oh nice like it is, but currently there are no images, so image names is empty, but the only thing we need to do is I'm going here and I'm just going and copy some images from my image.

B

Project, for example, routine: what's it called uh which is terminal? No? No! No! No! Oh! Oh! Oh all the other collection, so all collection, no wrong uh png.

B

Let's go for the office once uh I'm just picking the some images and then just copying them in okay. I'm going to delete this one because it starts with a free and it's not a valid uh c, see shot identifier, I'm working on that. But right now nothing happened.

B

Image names is just image names, but what we need to tell uh xenial is like okay, we have an embedded resource or better. We have an item group and it's samuel image names and it's include uh everything inside you know just star start.pg.

B

B

Bam with every every image that is inside our images, folder s and concept, so we can use it. But what is more, even more awesome is, we can add options like uh resource accessors and the lead thing is smart comments.

B

Okay, I hit save and now no that's the wrong one.

B

Okay extensions towards: where is my: where is code rush? Let me.

D

C

In extensions, I guess I mean that mainly.

D

C

B

Let me install code rush and then we are finished for today.

C

uh Actually, manuel like we have like at least uh just like 15 minutes left, so we'll start with some questions in the meantime, while you do that yeah, we can go for for.

F

C

The chat is open for questions if you want to to add any questions, and I will uh tell you to manuel and also I have some more questions of my own already, even just verified for that. So uh I will just ask from the kind of easiest one to the hardest one. So um how do we test the right sentiment? How do we get it? Ourself users? What is the step, should I add, a special nugget fee? Is it new at rg?

C

What is the process to to.

E

What is that? What is the.

B

What do we need to install or use cranial just go to docs dot, channel dot, io.

B

So I'm going to docs.cell.io.

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B

Is described here, what you need to do, where are some pitfalls? uh What you need to reference? What do you I didn't get into mobile builders at all uh today, you can just install it. It is at that version that is officially published at that moment.

B

Currently it is free of charge. I think, until.

C

Mid of the year okay, so I feel like basically in gdp type of version. At the moment it is still a ctp.

B

uh Afterwards, it will be at a really really really. uh I think, good.

C

Pricing, uh actually, my questions follow related to that, because it's more about how we get sentenced to the to the staff users so yeah. This question has been already asked and I guess you already answered that somehow, but anyway I will ask anyway. So what's the compatibility, you said that as soon as a new version of stuff is released soon, uh maybe one or two weeks the new version of senior will be there for that uh for validation of class.

C

Because that's a problem when you have like this custom framework over the framework that you move to the latest sub version and then what happened with my code right, like whatever I did, I'm singing the first example. uh If, if you have.

B

Any troubles normally uh normally xenial is designed to be backwards and forwards compatible. Sometimes it I need to step back a little bit and dive into some uh xf components that aren't compatible or available at the time. uh If you look at the at the at the pricing range or at the pricing scale, it's like the non-profit individual wants is it's.

B

It's almost supported for the latest two versions. If you need a special version reach out to me, I'm happy to help just speak to me. It's it's no problem uh to support a later version or an earlier version. If you need to uh uh stay back on an older version.

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B

C

Let's go for the next question: um does it come with source code.

C

If you get any of the packages, for example the individual company or whatever, but you get uh you get only the like the nougat version. Basically the device.

B

uh Alexander itself is open source. You can look at the source code. Is it's everything there? You can grab it on on on sending an io, uh uh um github channel general framework. Everything is open source, but I have to warn you. uh It is just open source. It's not.

C

Free yeah yeah.

B

C

Because it's like uh yeah, you show this, but you don't it's not free to use. Those are two different concepts. Actually you.

A

C

It is it, is you.

B

Could use it for free, but I am not happy with it if you're, if you were, uh if I see a bit uh uh or binaries, released outside the scope of of of educational context,.

B

You have to pay for it, I I I have to live from something.

C

Yeah, oh of course that's that's that's. You know, that's the kind of main problem of the open source. You release something because you want to give to the community, but then some people depends on that and then, if you're worth to fix it.

C

So of course you need to to leave from that, and I can tell you for sure, because I have a few open source trades that I wanted to just give that code that I have to the community, but to maintain it through time and to follow the cases, the use cases, the support cases it takes time I mean you can basically uh die penniless if you support all your open source ideas right. So I I kind of understand the.

B

It just means, if you are using it for a private personal project, go for it, it's no problem, but if you are using it commercial in any case, you get a 30 trial, uh 30 days trial, and then you at least need reach out to me. Yeah perfect.

C

And then the next question all of this comes from my side. Actually, uh if um is uh where do you buy it? I guess you show already the page. I was checking that page also on your website. Yeah. uh The thing is the the.

B

The buying page is still not um online because of now it's functional, it's not legal. It's not official illegal online. If you need a license, just scrape out to me.

C

For you like, can you give your contact information like your site, your blog and everything you you uh at.

B

Any uh uh other channel, like skype or or but basically the best thing you can do, is just write me on an delegate. Okay or just leave me a comment in skype. Facebook.

C

I guess we'll put a link to your information in the description of the video because, of course, all of this stand up goes to youtube in the end, so we can put your contact information there.

B

Yeah uh but basically pricing, but the pricing is kind of moderate uh 50 bucks a month is uh uh for everything, that's included. So um if you want to go a little bit cheaper.

C

We got uh a question regarding actually that because- uh and I also have this question- it's like it looks like the individual version- is more expensive than the company version, because I guess one is paid by yes, it is it is. It is because.

B

It's it's! It's! The the individual one is a little bit more expensive. It's ten percent exactly more expensive, because this is one. uh This is 500 a death a year, and this is 500 a death a month.

C

B

I know because.

C

You have to do as a developer, usually especially if you're a solo developer, you don't.

D

C

Put so much money into the future right, it's like I was.

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B

C

B

Yeah but but the thing is this is a royalty free. You can use it at as many projects as you like. I am not charging at any at any point. It is per death a month and if you can't uh get the money up front like 500, bucks is 500 bucks.

B

uh Then you, okay, maybe 50, and you will still get all the uh uh all the soldiers and all the stuff. But the only thing is you: will you don't have that much of company great uh support that you need if you have like 10 or 20 developers, uh because normally your projects are small uh and then you don't have to deal with all that that support stuff. That much.

C

So actually I figured out that before I asked you, but I wanted to have like the free answer for the community. I I won't just show the last.

C

E

C

uh All the questions are done, we're just waiting for your last demo and then we get the goodbye for the um for for today. I hope.

B

And, of course, I I put them all in for five hours more there's a lot just to show like uh talking editors with youtube. There's a lot of editor stuff going on installers.

C

We can do like. Maybe another live, uh because you know we we used to do twitch, but we don't do anymore, so maybe just get together with other guys from the community or the rsnbc, for example, or the community friends and then do uh do some live. Calling of course,.

D

The the thing is, I just wanted to.

B

Show the real new hotness that was going on the last four months. uh Sauce generators are a huge thing and uh yeah that's basically. My last four months was like working on source generators and just realizing how we can reimagine how to write source code for for xaf without having to rely on reflection and all that kind of stuff. So yeah it's it's.

D

Getting better it's about breaking the mirror right, because reflection is it's.

C

Getting more into like a reimagined way of reflection, yeah, and the thing is that you think I've been uh researching about code generation in general. But you need to rewire your mind because when you've been doing very long.

D

C

D

Icon there it is so.

B

C

What yeah I use a strong type also, so it's good! That's amazing! That's an amazing feature if this, if this isn't.

E

B

To anybody that is used to code, it's like the little thing where we can see the color inside the ide editor yeah like like like 25500, that is the red box. That's exactly the same thing.

C

With images in this case, yeah.

B

And code rush, this is an awesome feature.

C

Yeah yeah, no, I love it. Actually. I use it a lot to have notes.

D

And because I love airships, I want.

B

To do one thing: let's do this image name if my id is image name, if it's cooperating, I called it image names, image, names, dot,.

B

B

Is it? No! It's! Okay! It's fine! It's fine! It's fine! It's fine! Let's start it.

C

This closer finger for the democrats to behave well in this last demo. You know, I hope they are basically if it's compiling I'm happy yeah yeah, when I saw the intelligence that you know the colors, I thought well yeah. That would.

D

Work, the real problem is, my machine is.

B

C

Have you always said me to say how many times you film at 3 years like well, you know I used to do it like every two weeks or something like that. Like long time ago, when I was like in 20s in my 20s.

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B

D

Once or twice per year,.

B

Is there something I miss? No or I didn't miss? No editors.

B

Of course there are a lot of of business, create modules that help with other stuff like uh search module file, preview, all the kind of stuff that's getting better and better over this design. It's flexible! It's reasonable pricing. um You only need to license the stuff. You really need. I I forgot to to show this.

B

uh That's like choose individual components, so you can decide what you want so the cheapest one is 10 bucks a month.

B

Again, you can uh everything with hard support will be, will be uh more expensive all right. Let me just do that. Here's the person I come for, I'm not failing totally with my airship. I want the airship.

B

So um where is my um layout builder bang into the layout builder? Do it this side.

D

Airship now here airship.

C

No, but I see the person oh.

C

For your time for the presentation, it was amazing, uh I guess we'll have to do a part two, because if.

D

C

So much to show, because we've been talking with you many times and javier about how senior works. What are the features like uh what the community would like to see, for example, the hot reload was amazing. So uh with this like, let's close the session like if everyone wants to turn on the camera, I always take the picture for the for the standard, so this will be the first stand up of the year.

C

So, let's, uh like turn on the cameras for to put it in the group, so let's see amanda, can you stop sharing, so we can get everyone on.

C

And let's see uh just let's cross this guy review and okay guys, so it was great to have you and that's the first meetup of the year so see you guys on the next stand up uh we're looking forward to seeing you and if you have any questions, just send us an email. Our information is all over facebook. So thanks for coming and bye, bye.