YUI Library Open RoundTable, 29 May 2014

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From YouTube: YUI Open Roundtable with Clarence Leung on AppLinks

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Welcome everybody to the latest why I open roundtable today's Thursday in may 29th, 2014 I! Have this my guest and often visitor Clarence Leon thanks for coming this week, we're going to talk a little bit about the upcoming three dot 17 to release we're going to talk about pure and then we'll talk about the clearance.

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Inorganic related.

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Links so first up we have a 3 x, 17 de to build cooking right now, we're hoping that we can get if you're out there watching this and it hasn't been released. Yet please feel free to download that and try out, especially around motor, if you have a special config or anything like that, please feel free to check out the release candidate and give us feedback exactly.

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The goal for this release lowered for free 17, was that we want to module eyes some of like the loader code so that we can create like custom combo loaders. But we also came across like a few issues over here and so like especially we're using like groups of Yui modules. That's something really important for you to check out private yeah loader.

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Is one of these things that more you touch it, the more it sort of works in the interest of realism? Well,.

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The goal is that we're trying to like improve load, or even more so exactly.

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Next up, we talked a little bit about if you have not checked out hecker news last couple days or Twitter recently, the new pure release.

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Out your CSS 450 was released a couple days ago, and if you go to the pure CSS, the I/o site, you can check out the snazzy site and especially they have a new starting page that can introduce you to suit which link. Is it the.

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Look I started page. It's a brand new recently designed.

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And has lots of helpful tips for me to get going and they're really cool widget on the pure get started page and with it you can basically just select what you want. Your screen screen wess'har. What you want to be your small screen with or phone a medium screen look for a tablet, a large screen wit for desktop and more, and you can just set that up. Just use the little like at that thing out there and just create your own tea or mobile grids, and so it's really awesome so definitely check it out.

A

Cool next up, we we have the main sore topic for a day which was working on some really interesting. Really interesting. Petrolatum links may be a little bit about what.

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Ethics is so app links is basically the idea for um it's more for native mobile apps, and the idea is that you can put a few meta tags on your mobile web pages so that it's easier for your arm, so that a native mobile optician can read those meta tags and immediately be able to deep link into a native app. So the idea behind it is that we want to add, like the most important part of the web, which is linking back over to native apps. So that's something that data Maps don't really have right.

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Now, if you open up like any native app, you basically go straight to like the home screen of that native app and there's no really easy way to say, like hey, I, want to link to this specific screen inside and date of that and that's the benefit of a place, and this is something that's been driven by Facebook, but they also have like a whole bunch of other backers right now, if Dropbox I think tumblers, actually I'm or now two, and so one of the things that I've been working on on the side, is that I'm building up an express model called Express app links, and the idea is that we're building it on top of our existing modown components, and so that you would be able to annotate your routes, and you would be able to immediately just get those meta tags that you need for the app links for a call right into your page cool.

B

So what do you mean by annotate like those? How does that work? So basically, what we've been doing with like a lot of modown components, is that you have the idea of these route annotations and so, for example, these droughts annotations can be like labels, for instance, that you want to label like a specific URL on your site with a prick, as apart as being a part of a particular section, so, for instance, I this part might be your app. This part might be a section.

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That's just like your static, like about pages and write off like that or your forum exactly yeah. But the thing that's even better is that it fits well with what Apple Inc's is doing, because you can now like label your your your HTML routes, with the same routes that you might want to use for your native apps, for instance. So how you deep link into native apps is that you also use URLs, for instance, except you use a very like custom URL scheme.

B

So, instead of using like a cheapy yahoo com, / finance, you would just do like yahoo, colon, slash, slash, finance, great, and so that way you use these custom URLs and on Android you can open them up and they'll go straight into app through intense and on iOS I'll, just jump straight to that and your native app will be able to handle all of your code dick. So.

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When the native app.

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Is installed image strip, doses, handlers, yeah,.

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Exactly so similar to what like a regular router, would you you can create the same thing for a native app too. So what would be a scenario.

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For that, like sayuri you're viewing something on web page on to yahoo like weather or something like weather DD, the direct.

B

Display is that, where example, so an example would be, if you're on yahoo weather, for instance, and you're, looking at the wetter for Sunnyvale, for instance- and you want to link specifically to the Sunnyvale page and but the person who has your app has the data, whether a for instance, you can send them that a web link and what ends up happening is that um if you're inside the weather app, for instance, they'd be able to like immediately like just open it up inside of the what's a link, you can send them.

B

People like the email as well or is it just met in mind? Oh well, it's more behind-the-scenes. What ends up happening is that you just parse the meta times and your native app is able to like handle the transition between apps that way who's doing the parsing. Is it the app or is it the web browse? So there are some of fusion ways that you can do to part.

B

You can have like a back-end service, for instance, like facebook, is trying to build out something like that with your graph API or at the same time you can just have to on the client. So what you would do in time. The native half is that you would just send a request over to an HTML page, take a look at the meta tags, and if the meta tags has a new RL that you can open, then you open that up. Also the apps doing the parsing in that respect.

B

Yeah, in that case, yeah, cool, very cool, and so the idea is that we're bowling D's on top of our existing modown components, and so hopefully it will be like just another component is trying.

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To login into your like.

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Extra sac, yeah.

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How does it get the metadata, though, for that so, like I said before, the metadata is just from your um your meta tags inside the HTML I meant meant for the app like he'll generate like how do you know that this app has 5 sections in each section goes to this model, so what you would do in that case is that you would just basically have diese.

B

You would set some settings inside your Express, huh so just basically at that set um iOS, app store or ID, for instance, and in that way, if a person wants to like link directly to like to have soared, they can do that so yeah. So there's like a lot of stuff that can be done with it. It's definitely like a protocol that, like a lot of larger companies, are trying to push, and so we'll see how that turns out. Is it just a web to advocate at the apt to have?

B

Actually it's mainly for the app tap use case? It's not me use for the web tab. Okay hits right now right. It.

C

Says idea is that if.

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You were rendering out like a post where people are sharing links, then you can intercept. um You can intercept the tap to that link before its people actually open out a web page right and then make a request over to that web page grab that metadata and it opened up in the other app. So it's mainly for to act at risk case.

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Does that work like endeth browsers, you can register like a URL moniker like saying that to link or think in chrome, you can register like plugins. That handle. Is that a similar kind of thing it's.

B

A similar concept, so the idea of deep linking has been here for like quite it's idea that you're just using a different protocol other than a shape it. And so, if you want to open up an appt inside a different open up an appt to that URL, then you can do. That is.

A

It just destinations, or could you actually do like method calls like you know you go to a destination, but it also does.

B

Certain things yeah, so you can parse past data through the URL to so it's just like you can pass it through a query string. It's like the exact same way that you would do it with a regular. You are and.

A

That's what so, in terms of the way you've been working on? Have you been able to like test this out so.

B

The idea is not I'm just making an express module that follows, like their spec, pretty closely right now, so their spec house, like a few like a little things that I want to make it easier for people to handle. So, for instance, if you pass in this specific header, you're actually return just like the meta tags at the top.

B

So none of the actual content- and that makes it easier for like an app to like just say, I- want only the meta tags and then get that um app links metadata and they would be able to just like use it at just use it up that way. This is.

A

Related to facebook, like correctly api, because I have meta tags for that too, is this some things.

B

I think that's what they originally based it on, but the idea is that this is supposed to be like a more like public protocol that anyone can use. So not just facebook in this case and can are the meta tags.

A

Like static like once, you've loaded that page, you can change number so.

B

What do you mean by sanic.

A

I guess it's like a request. I mention it's just a payload right, you make a request and you get back the response that has david. It's not like a an existing pages were, like I say, a single page app. You can't modify.

B

Those metadata tags, so you can, you would be able to modify them if you wanted to the benefit, really isn't there, because the idea is that this is mainly using like the server rendered use case. So if, for instance, when you're on the native app and you're trying to hit um you're trying to hit you hit your server, then you only want those meta tags to shop there. If it changes like inside your browser, it's not going to make much difference, because the link you share will be surrendered in any way I.

B

How is this better than what we're doing now like? Is it's like a sort of a balkanization where there's lots of different ways, so, right now, like apps, are very like self-contained. You really are like Walt gardens right now. The problem with apps is that they really break the internet.

B

Sort of the idea is that you go into a nap and then you're inside this like little world that the app entirely controls, if you want to like link to someone else, is that then what ends up happening is that you end up opening their mobile web component. Even if you have the app install right like how many times have you opened up life, a twitter link in an ad, for instance, it takes you to Twitter web page where's, it's a better experience.

B

If you can just click on a Twitter link and you can open it inside the twitter app itself or how many times have you done that it'll.

A

Ask you to sign in once, you slide in you've lost all trace of the original link. You know it just signs you in your back on the Twitter page versus, like the actual tweet, that you're.

B

Looking at exactly yeah, so that's something that's like annoying or like a lot of people and they're really helping to solve that problem, and so we're trying to see if we can like make it easier for developers to like implement something like that to do. You think that they're gonna try.

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To propose this is like a spec.

B

For all answer, so it's a pretty like informal standard right now, I, don't think they have like and you like standards committee or anything like that. But it's just something that people would like to fall. Have you seen much adoption outside of Facebook yeah pinterest dropbox there's a lot of time. If you take a look at the site and let's.

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Are you thinking about it's.

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Hot so dropbox spotify, pinterest hulu, so a lot of like different sites. I already exists and its benefits everyone right.

B

So, for instance, if I'm like create creating a new product, for instance and I, want to keep link into someone else, snap then all I need to do is just have a client that parses there's meta times and then all I can do is just like replace my regular links with dozous like operating system, specific links and then once I do that, then I can go straight into the other person's app it's just as how do you discover those looks so like before it's just basically, those meta times and all you need to do is just send an HTTP requests over get those replaced, and once you do that, then they can just jump straight for but I mean is there whether it is a like a standard URL.

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That you're requesting or you have to know you have to know for each per each app. What what URL to ping to get the metadata back so.

B

Basically, whatever the mobile web link is so if people share a mobile web link, for instance, if they share arm, if they share a regular URL, then inside that regular URL, when you render the page the metadata is there, so they can put it in the homepage or anything. They want two terms of location, yeah.

A

Exactly I see, do you see well, I can see how you would you basically have the links to the links. Give you any idea about what they do, but you might see a link it takes, it may say male, but does that mean you know open mail and create a new mail message? It's really can API socially was.

B

So that hasn't been defined, that's really up to the individual application developer in that case. So in that case, um that's how ever you decide to handle it inside the app. So what Express app links does is that it'll wreck amend that you use to same URLs on both your web, app, your native apps and everything in between. So the idea is that if you have the same URLs, then it's easier for you to structure your applications.

B

If it's a native app and you can structure it that way, if it's a web app, then you structure the exact same way and all of them are would be in sync. Are you working on, like the website of things are also the outside as well so I've been working with on sort of both sides so because part of is make sure, like both sides, work together, well, so making sure that you can parse that data and making sure that um it follows that writes back that they have on the website.

B

So you, if you're, creating.

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The Express up links, so are you going to create a like an Android project and.

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Project as well that people can download so.

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They already have parts of them inside of inside of the app links repo, so they have example, clients of how that might work out right, and so that's like the reference architecture yeah. So one of the things that I'd like to work on to is I like to be able to create, like a yq all table for to contain, like all these apple inc's, so you wouldn't need to like store these apple inc's yourself. You will need to parse the day to yourself.

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Instead, what you can do is you can just access the wife you all table and it'll be a lot faster because we catch all the data for you. You.

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System and you give it a perform at JSON XML, whatever you wanted to exactly, you can just do like select iOS URL from app links where you, r l, equals yahoo com brings us and not something that would be really useful like since you don't need to like go. Do all the parson yourself. It's a lot faster in terms of like the most really think, I'd be got moving things so I'm still working on that right now. The idea is that we want to build an API that might work.

B

I, mother, hey you're, welcome on blue circle and stuff and notice you there, so we want to build an API that would work for both express free and express for so. The first thing is that we're doing now is that reporting some of the older modem components like Express, annotations and Express map over to express for right now. So if you want to take a look at like their repositories that we have them, that's work that were trying to do right now and we're also might be changing.

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The API admit: there's been a little bit of funkiness. That's changed between Express, free and express for, and we want to make sure that the API is the same between both so you're going to be, like kind of like a home's like a polyfill or like a wrapper around Express for ya. So the routes have changed a lot since that, like how routing works and Express so originally in express, you could just do like at that Jack now in express, for they recommend that you used idea of a router.

B

So the idea is that you would be able to limit your routes to just a specific URL so that nothing like conflicts with each other. So the idea is that yeah that what they want to do if express now, is to module eyes your apps. So everything is self-contained.

B

So if you have an entire life blog app, someone could just do at that use, / blog and then your blog app and then that way like everyone can just like immediately like get components working, maybe even like NPM install components, and so it would just be as easy as that cool.

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One welcome.

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I was going to see if you had any questions for Clarence about the high plains. That.

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No not so far, I'm happy to get a like a high-level overview, because I haven't been following the details. I.

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Need to find your sign I know that you've been working on some more of the module loading stuff, so you have anything to the top.

C

Yeah so today, I I open sourced a couple of components under my user name on it helped called module graph and grunts mojo graph that just the given a set of es6 module files. They give you back a JSON file with all the information regarding which imports you're, using on what you're exporting from your modules. So you can do use that to do stuff like what we doing. Why?

C

Why, in our setup configuration for your loader to do either combo loading or prefetching or any other, try to see like that you're going to try and it is a little sorry you've been experimenting with it on the pure sine and yeah. We I sent a pro request to the pure side. It's open right now. We have to do with some conflicts, but it's already using broccoli to run this. This module graph, a function and tilden I changed on file and from that building, Wi-Fi configuration.

C

So the good things that so by now that the pure site has this file that contains all the water I config ah like in the traditional way, but just maintain by hand. And with this you don't have, they don't have to maintain in my hand anymore. It's just happens when you save a file automatically, you know, broccoli goes in, you know it has. Its own watcher goes ahead with the fighter. Game generates the output again, and it's right and the.

B

Benefit of this for the average like Yui users that they don't need to write all these like manual like module, JSON files by themselves, right yeah,.

C

Like it made at the chase on fire yeah, its story gone this.

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C

That, if you're doing conditional loading but yeah this.

A

Will work for you, six modules that get compelled to my way or you use it straight from my way now.

C

You you, you need to use your six syntax, because syntax is actually what gives you the security that, when looking at the code, you're actually getting the actual import and export information.

C

Otherwise you know say if you were using something like why why you will have to do something like I think IBM pitch it from auto I wrote something that went ahead and looked into the way I dot add function and try to guess at the dependencies.

C

But there are many ways in you in which you can create those. You can mess with the requires array, and you know uh I'm study analysis to one be able to pick that up, because it's so mutable, but since the es6 in taxes static, you can look at this at the syntax. I know exactly what you're importing so.

A

You can almost use this as a way of like debugging your graph right, if you found that so it's not important right, you can look and see what's generated, see if everything shows up properly well.

C

Yeah, so I really in a way that that it should be so for I, don't know something like iya slimmed, to figure out if you're importing something from a module and that other module doesn't actually have it really.

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C

You try to import I Ghana the one function for no, but no didn't have the one function or oh yeah, I, don't know you made a typo in your import statement, it'll catch it in whenever you run yes lint. So.

B

So if you have like dead code, for instance, I'll also get rid of that too, because it'll realize you're not actually like importing this code anywhere.

C

Yeah, so that's the next step. The next step is figuring out a tool that, given this information, we most other things that you are not using. Mm-Hmm.

A

So this grunt macho crap depend on modhra graph or yeah.

C

So we we have all this. You know by now an ecosystem of build tools, so I, just the departed deals with the source code and dusty, the actual analysis in one module and the other one is just a gram tasks that calls it can.

A

I ask you to show like a demo or something or showing it up. It looks like.

C

Sure and see if I can be.

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C

Let's say: I have wait a folder here.

A

So you're saying a prerequisite for this is, if you're working on, why why you need to find a way to convert the components? The modules are working on the es6 first, which we talked about last week and.

C

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Compile them back to YY? Yes, so.

C

Yes, most, I guess it's mostly useful for new projects unless we figure out a way to easily transition big bit code bases, 2, 2 s, 6, the.

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C

Should be feasible, we haven't gotten to it yet Betsy.

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C

Had this last week oh yeah I just sent it to Simon, so it's is italia excited about it. I think.

A

It's important even even the like, you said it eliminates the need to do this manually, because, even if you went to the process and you've got it all manually generated if you're working on a team and things are at being added and it remove dynamically you'll have to constantly keep that. Did it.

C

Yeah totally ok, so I'm sharing my screen.

C

Do you see my screen yeah now you try again.

C

How it is something different? Ok, ah so, let's say I have yeah I'm writing an e6 module Naidu like import who from some module and then I'm exporting default function.

C

Returns food. I.

C

Say this as bar, which is and oh I can't I wish I could assume the my console on windows. Thank.

A

You can do is that.

C

Ok yeah, so let's say you know, I got into the folder that I created I. Do dear, you see part ideas, so you just install this week.

A

At the new, a new supply window, Oh easy I.

C

Can like put here so you can study I saw like a command to like a global mpm style.

A

This isn't sewing a grunt module graph or just my.

C

Labret just mad, you graph it it's already: it's both us, a library and the command line tool. So then it's just learning module graph on foo bar OTS and now I made a mistake. See motorcraf should give me.

C

Well, I guess: I haven't divided, come on line enough haha I promise and test today.

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C

One generated me: sorry, you have one.

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Attorney general I.

C

Have wondered so regenerate, let me look for it. So when you see an example here.

C

Let me show you got the tests that I'm using in the grant version, so in the grunt version. I have like this module that that's a simple it on export and I won now on. That's something pretty similar. So when you run the grunt task you can. The default output would be something like this just an object which contains reference to your modules and all the dependencies for each of those modules. And then you have a different mode, which is called include bindings, which includes all the all the actual imports and exports by name.

C

So you get something like this module one. You get an object with imports and exports.

A

Right- and this is consumable why I wires is a formatted? Is we converted.

C

Now you should compare to the traditional Yui requires yeah buts about it, based on this on the simple one: it's pretty similar right. You just do something like turn into requires and.

A

You're good to go any plans to add that as a like a flag or something nah.

C

Probably not for this command line tools of the contest, but we may do something like this for I, don't know Express Yui or with watching figuring out.

A

They were consumed.

C

Lesson opportunity.

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C

Mean it's: it's just writing a function we could do. But what's.

A

In the spirit of like you know, just easing easing the transition to folks from the tradition, the tradition folks from a by tsx. Alright.

C

So the one thing is that, even though this gives you the information for ah you know the requires lists, it doesn't give you it doesn't deal with path, so you still have to somehow generate the usual path. Information that we're using wire like path equal to that belt. / 21, the GS trigger.

B

Me it possible to extend it further to get the path to I mean if you're already iterating and over every single file. I. Don't.

C

uh Yeah, but we, you would have to know at least which mean which would be like the base directory I guess we could do like a a similar version. That's specific for why I that takes a base path and generates like group configuration it's also nice um yeah I guess said that out of work, I think.

A

You find a lot of people. Wouldn't would like that a lot, even if you say it's a mere matter of programming, but it definitely it also sort of helps make sure that it's valid. Oh, my I pad.

C

Yeah, I guess it either. It'll make sense if we generally, like a whole group, configuration from good yeah.

A

Yeah, that's really awesome, I mean so you're saying that you can get this today.

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C

This is already NM p.m. which system don't have a weii specific version, I'll.

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Be the first one to start.

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This ability star bites I'ma man. I.

A

Got to do to cram all programs, that's really great, so your idea is what we're going to go forward with this. It's just a self-contained ur, like you said, there's is there next.

C

So the idea is to keep working on on small tools like this that eventually grow out to be a whole developer. Workflow.

C

You know our tools for your ators tools for creating bundles in a smart way, tools for doing the things that we know based on on our spins with YY. That work could well be that comboing or prefetching, our conditional loading and the years to remove as much of the configuration steps that we have right now and try to have smart tools that take as much away from that. It's possible yeah.

A

To meet you, one of the things I feel like the challenge with law. This is um we're building a lot of these tools and we all have like a like a mental sense of how they work, but there's nothing out there that really sort of puts them together and says sit down your desk go install these five things go run this. You know a cookbook style.

C

Yeah totally so what I'm doing is once we actually get a really clear picture of what are the you know, two three, four steps that you have to go through to get. You know your base, library, o brady's, module infrastructure.

C

We can definitely start creating human generators for those OS.

B

C

I already have a couple: what, since we're, still kind of tweaking little little parts of how we actually go ahead and compile modules and create on this information, I haven't polished it here.

A

Cool, so it sounds like something in the future for both of these actually so.

C

So yeah, eventually, if you wanted to I, don't know I I could have a human generator. That's specifically for writing. Node modules in es6 in packs I, like creates all your base package of chase on configuration so that you only export the build files and not the six source files, and so that's that's definitely the way that we want to go like give you a tool that sets everything up, and so you don't happen. So you don't have to understand how everything fits together is.

A

There anything this Edie's is the way you think the the module spec is is stable, not now that you won't have to change these around well.

C

Yeah, the syntax is definitely stable and the loader side is actually going through a really interesting discussion today yesterday and today, if you guys have heard of Ian Hickson, is the fixya exia, the editor of the html5 spec, so he's getting in touch with tc39 in the community? That standardized is a JavaScript to to see if, if they can avoid having more than one dependency system like, for instance, you have in the roaster you have.

C

Are we here six modules, but you also have dependencies that have to do with CSS images and all kinds of assets or other assets, so you have web components that are actually a mix of JavaScript and CSS and HTML, and you need to import those somehow and they have their own dependencies. So there's a interesting discussion going on between this is when I unfolds and the v3c folks are trying to see how they can integrate those systems. Without you know having like 23, where.

A

There's like three right now right, three main ones: 12 script well,.

C

They're there seem to be like three main mechanism for dealing with dependencies: the years loader HTML HTML imports with scum, some sense of dependencies and they're, considering something like I needs attribute for elements.

C

So you, if you have like an image that needs some CSS to be displayed correctly. You can say, like IMG, needs and point to your CSS file, piglia, once you're scrolling to your page and the image of years. It also goes and fetches the style.

C

So that's all like a brand new idea that they're thinking about, but they are worried about increasing Molly's. You know that this different type of systems that deal with this type of synchronized.

B

In so the overall free of those systems to work again like an you use all three, if you really want you.

C

Yeah so I I'm not a fan of the nice attribute, especially for for scripts right, because the dependency is actually in there in the module symptoms. So if you have like a module tag that I love you to write a module inside HTML, then I don't think you would actually need, except.

A

To the parsing, the HTML Oh, to have an introspection into the JavaScript right.

C

Right and and then as far as you know, depending on CSS or within your images, I think, are you know, custom elements with HTML imports actually work very well. You know you define a HTML fragment and that fragment contains different style sheets and different elements, and then you go and insert that into your HTML page with a speak tag. I, don't know if you guys have seen welcome audience that or yeah.

A

Yeah is that part of personal aide to the shadow Dom started.

C

So the sound on parties is the one is the part that actually allows you to do encapsulation. You know to hide things in your custom element, but it's it's. So the idea of all components is like the mixture between all these different technologies start the Chado down custom elements and the HTML imports which allows you to create something of what we used to do: call widgets, but with native or with browser or web platform technology, and it is that they already deal with with dependencies.

C

In a way you could have a web component with a custom element that depended on our custom elements. So I'm not sure we need that third mechanism, I can't.

A

Wait to this is all sussed out because it feel like, for instance, browsers will be able to cash things a lot more intelligently, the be able that you can be able to tell the tale a browser. This is my appt. Please catch these 3d JavaScript files for a long time versus just loading things kidding about.

C

Yeah, that's another thing that it's an interesting thing that they mentioned and their difference in, like I, can attribute for script, elements and style sheets that allow you to and images to that, allow you to define when that resource is loaded. So, for instance, you could define an image to be loaded ah a slate as possible, so it would only be loaded when the image is closing to you without you needing to write I go again. Yy-You're jquery plugin to it.

A

So one are going to come in from I receive hash, saying he says man I really wish the Lord would tell me which dependency is missing.

C

Uh-Huh yeah I I saw his comment earlier. I'm, not sure we can actually do that.

A

Something you could run it you're.

C

Like a trial run it like, so that, if you have something missing, uh it could be one of two right. It could be like pointing to the wrong URL, which is something that the YY loader should be telling you now, if you did it wrong like if you try to lose a module, but that module wasnt, there.the YY loader should be saying something rendering a debug message or in the on error, call back right.

A

So there's that case, but then there's the case where you didn't even try to load it right. Yeah.

C

And the case when you didn't even try to load it so that one might be covered by the six syntax combined with something like es lint right, because if you didn't import it from somewhere and you try to use it, then you have a reference to a global that doesn't exist and that's something that you know. Jslint already knows how to how to sell you that here I'm making my and I'm making some sense or yeah.

C

A

Well, um after that, do you have anything else we want to cover mom's now it sounds really cool yeah. Why I'll you have you you've done like an entire car. I know I know, um then you had any updates on my promised.

C

Not yet so weird sin: Y promises are like a guinea pig for figuring out this whole workflow in a way because I so I. What I do is rewrite it as any six modules just to see how it look like, and now we've figured out how to first transpire it into into es5 or queen in this case and there from that important back into why? Why and the biggest roadblock that I I've had.

C

Actually, I would consider there is locked, is because the package manager that what we want to use is its power, but power doesn't work exactly the same way as and beyond that. It's just it just linked to a git repo right where mpm actually goes and creates a pack go: go crazy, zip file and uploaded upload seat somewhere.

C

So if you have source files written in es6 or rearing in CoffeeScript or any other language that you need to transpile first, then, in order to publish the power, you would actually have to have the build file in the repository. Yes, you have twice as many files right so and we already have the experience with why why we're dealing with the build fights in the repository and in science? It's really painful. So as.

A

C

As power doesn't actually host any zip files and kind of blocked.

A

On that I see what about things like browserify or whatever, and.

C

Bro certify us actually gained some traction lately. If you look into the NPM registry and you search by keyword, use the browser keyboard, you will actually get a lot of results. People are starting to use NPM us as a repository for modules that actually are used in a browser with type I and I. Think we can do something, that's at least as good as bro certify, if not better.

C

Based on your six modules, there is already a 65 kind of dust blood in a way. um Yes, excellent, yes, 65 yeah, I think, has some quirks that need to be ironed out, but and.

A

C

A

That the browser should be doing a lot of this anyway, right.

C

Yeah totally so that's a future.

B

Future thing yeah: we shouldn't need browser. Okay,.

A

B

Is that, like browsers, more eventually like do all this for us, so we'll.

A

See awesome well thanks, everybody for coming and thanks for our one viewer and all the people who are watching this, because we get quite a few trick, quite a bit of traffic after the fact so you're watching this and again, if you hit, we haven't released 317 to yet, please go grab a copy and try it out and try to break it worse, especially unloader, so that one will feel bad.

A

Did you know if there's anything from N and from the end of.

C

A

Terms of other things you may have found since that patch no.

C

I haven't heard from him, but ya thang, it's a big! Thank you to 2-under for fear. Now my my mistake. Isis last us ischia I've.

A

Learned a long time ago that, if you're not like breaking the building, run small you're, not really in the cutting edge.

C

A

Case actually learned.

C

To to work, first of all, you know have as much discover if you can it sucks, but it's it's for the greater good and and yeah. You know if you've found something broke and you're running to fix it once you actually found the problem actually take some time to go through the actual solution.

A

Yeah difficult mm-hmm all right, well we're gonna close up for this time around. Thank you guys for coming another awesome round table every time. This happens. It's like it's going to be great it every night. Every time we do it. It's great we'll see you next week, I see ya. Okay, later.