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A
If
anyone
is
planning
to
present
testimony
this
evening,
please
sign
up
at
the
back
there,
where
we
have
it
scheduled
to
sign
up
the
hearing
room,
okay,
yeah
we'll
get
going.
Then
it's
Wednesday
December
the
13th.
The
time
is
six
o'clock.
The
time
set
for
the
public
hearing.
All
three
Commissioners
are
are
present.
I
would
ask
clerk
if
we
have
any
changes
to
the
agenda.
A
Okay,
I'm
going
to
ask
I,
don't
think
we
need
a
motion,
but
we're
going
to
take
up
new
business
first,
because
the
new
business
is
not
going
to
take
as
long
and
then
the
people
here
for
the
new
business
won't
have
to
wait
all
night
long
for
the
to
go,
because
we're
going
to
have
I
think
two
rather
lengthy
discussions
on
the
first
unfinished
business.
So
we're
going
to
take
out
the
new
business
first,
so
I'll
open
the
public
hearing
on
item
202201
624-s
that
Dash
Vac.
Unless
the
staff
to
present
them.
C
Yeah,
thank
you
chairman,
commissioner.
So
this
item,
the
applicant,
has
requested
a
table
to
continue
working
out
some
septic
related
issues
for
the
development,
so
they've
tabled
it
to
the
January
hearing
and
they've
got
requested
that
you
approve
that
tabling
okay.
A
A
202-202-655-1
PBA
Steve
Kelly
and
we'll
ask
staff
to
give
us
a
report.
C
C
These
Lots
originally
plotted
as
a
part
of
Mary
Glenn
subdivision
number
two
in
1972.
There
are
lots,
seven
and
eight,
as
both
5
and
5.1
acre
lots
through
some
taking
associated
with
or
not
taking,
right-of-way
dedication
associated
with
the
Highway
55.
They
were
reduced
in
size,
but
nevertheless
they
were
still
under
the
minimum
size
of
the
RR
District
today,
which
is
important
for
why
the
variance
is
requested.
C
C
From
the
early
2000s-
and
this
is
just
another
example-
this
discovery
of
the
issue
was
actually
found
when
the
owner
of
lot
7
came
in
to
build
a
shop
building
and,
as
is
our
practice
at
the
county,
we
review
a
property
for
any
non-conformities
and
make
sure
those
are
cleaned
up
before
we
can
issue
any
building
permits,
and
so
basically
they're
here
before
you,
with
both
the
variance
and
a
request
to
bless
that
record
of
survey.
C
The
variance
is
required
because
our
code
doesn't
allow
you
to
reduce
a
non-conforming
property
anymore
to
be
more
non-conforming.
Basically,
you've
had
several
projects
like
this
before
you
over
the
last
year.
This
is
another
example
again,
Lot
8
essentially
sold
about
a
third
of
an
acre
to
lot
7
back
in
the
early
2000s
and
we're
here
today
to
try
to
clean
up
the
record
on
that
project.
C
So,
in
terms
of
agency
comments,
there
was
no
opposition.
Our
comprehensive
planning
team
found
to
be
in
compliance
with
the
Ada
conference
plan,
Ada
County
conference
plan.
Any
kind
of
surveyor
had
comments
on
the
survey
itself
and
then
the
Ada
County
building
official
just
had
no
objections.
C
Just
requires
building
permits,
particularly
for
the
new
shop
building,
what
they've
proposed
there
were
no
comments
from
the
public
on
the
project,
so,
in
conclusion,
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
202202655
B
Dash
PBA
PBA,
which
again
is
a
variance
to
resolve
some
dimensional
standard
and
substantial
conformance
issues
and
a
property.
Boundary
adjustment
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
Thank.
B
B
A
All
right,
no
questions
to
to
you
is
the
applicant
here
in
which
to
wish
to
speak.
I.
A
Right,
good,
okay,
thank
you
is
there.
Anyone
else
wish
to
speak
to
this
application.
I
hear
none
I'll
close
the
public
hearing
on
application,
202-202-655-v-pba.
A
And
accept
a
motion
from
the
board.
B
Yes,
Mr,
chair,
I'll,
make
the
motion
I.
Don't
think
that
this
variance
it
does
relieve
the
applicant
of
an
undue
hardship
because
of
the
characteristics
the
it
does
not
Grant
a
special
writer
privilege.
And,
lastly,
the
variance
if
granted
is
not
going
to
be
detrimental
to
public,
healthy
health,
safety
or
welfare.
So
with
that
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
to
go
ahead
and
approve.
A
Let's
open
the
I'll
be
carrying
on
application
number
two:
zero:
two:
two:
zero:
two:
six:
six:
four
Dash
Vac
PBA
OC
Hunter
homes.
Well
at
least
we'll
first
take
a
report
from
our
staff.
F
Okay,
application
2022
zero,
two
six,
six,
four
Dash
Vac
PVA
as
before
you
applicant
on
this
application,
is
Boise
Hunter
homes.
This
is
within
Dry,
Creek
Ranch.
You
might
be
familiar
with
the
site
here.
That's
the
School
site
just
to
the
northeast
of
this,
this
property,
but
this
application
is
a
vacation
of
a
public
utilities
and
drainage,
easement
and
a
property
boundary
adjustment
located
between
Lots
85
and
86
of
block
7
of
Dry
Creek
Ranch
subdivision
number.
F
Six
addresses
of
these
two
properties
are
14098
and
14
112,
North
Rainey
way
and
together
they
contain
0.36
Acres.
So
here's
the
current
Dry
Creek
Ranch
subdivision,
number,
six,
plat
and
so
you'll
see
in
green.
Here
we
have
lots.
85
and
86
within
block
7
are
currently
zoned
medium
density,
District
within
number
six.
F
So
it
was
discovered
that
a
measuring
error
was
made
by
Boise
Hunter
homes
when
they
constructed
the
existing
single-family.
Dwelling
the
air
resulted
in
the
dwelling
being
placed
within
the
easement
and
side
yard
setback,
so
they
have
an
application
before
you
for
the
vacation
to
just
partially
vacate
a
portion
of
that
that
easement
there
so
you'll
see
the
darker
shaded
area.
Here.
It's
approximately
880
or
I'm
sorry
180
square
feet,
and
so
that
will
just
be
vacated
to
allow
for
this
house
to
remain.
F
In
its
current
position,
we
did
receive
a
real
I'm,
sorry
relinquishment
letters
from
the
necessary
agencies
like
Idaho
Power,
Intermountain
Gas,
so
that
they
don't
have
any
concerns
with
this
application
and
with
the
vacation
and
so
also
included
with.
This
is
a
property
boundary
adjustment,
and
this
is
more
to
relieve
the
setback
issues.
F
The
setback
as
I
said,
is
three
feet,
so
this
new
line
will
allow
for
both
of
the
the
houses
that
are
that
are
there
to
be.
Within
the
you
know,
the
outside
of
the
setbacks.
F
B
G
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
commission,
Todd
Tucker
Boise
Hunter
homes,
923
South,
Bridgeway
Place
in
Eagle,
Idaho
83616.
We
agree
with
the
staff
report.
This
is
a
usually
we
bring
a
fairly
complicated
and
difficult
items
before
you,
but
we
thought
as
a
special
gift
for
commissioner
kenyon's
last
meeting.
We
would
give
you
a
Tashua,
softball
and
tonight,
no
all
kidding
aside.
G
We
agree
with
the
staff
report
and
I
just
wanted
to
take
this
opportunity,
commissioner
Kenyon
to
just
say
how
much
we
appreciate
you
and
all
that
you've
done
for
Ada
County
and
the
the
service
that
you've
given.
So
we
really
appreciate
that
and
appreciate
you
and
just
want
to
request
approval
of
this.
It's
a
fairly
simple
one:
we've
gotten
the
relinquishments
from
all
the
utility
companies.
G
A
There
anyone
else
from
the
audience
would
like
to
speak
on
this
application.
A
It
all
right,
we'll
close
the
public
hearing
on
application.
A
D
No
Mr
chair
I'll
move
to
limit
all
further
flattering.
Commissioner
Canyon
just
kidding
I'll
move
to
approve
application
number.
D
A
H
Mr
chairman
and
Commissioners
project
number
2022-02167,
CU
Dash
msp-v
is
a
conditional
use,
Master
site
plan
and
variance
for
an
outdoor,
only
self-service
storage
facility.
The
subject
property
is
located
at
13321
North
Horseshoe
Bend
Road
and
contains
5.05
Acres
within
the
rural
urban
transition.
District.
The
property
is
also
adjacent
to
the
Payette
River
sink
byway.
The
p8
sync
by
the
way,
was
designated
in
Idaho
sink
byway
in
1977
and
National
sink
byway
in
2005.,
the
byway
runs
along
Highway
55
from
Eagle
to
New
Meadows.
H
The
applicant
state
that
in
his
application
that
the
hours
of
operation
for
that
door,
only
self-service
storage
facility
will
be
from
7am
to
9
pm
for
screening.
The
applicants
proposing
a
six
foot
vinyl
fence
along
Highway
55
Road
Frontage,
with
the
maple
tree
plant
every
20
feet.
The
property
is
located
within
Eagles
area
of
City
Impact.
H
In
addition,
the
facility
will
create
an
undue
adverse
impact
on
surrounding
properties,
as
the
facility
is
not
compatible
with
the
surrounding
rural
residential
neighborhood.
In
addition,
the
facility
detracts
from
the
scenic
Beauty
along
the
Payette
River
sink
byway.
The
applicant
has
also
applied
for
variance
seeking
relief
from
two
specific
use
standards.
H
The
first
variance
is
to
allow
for
the
storage
facility
to
be
within
100
feet
of
a
residential
property
line,
and
the
second
variance
is
for
the
facility
to
exceed
the
maximum
site
coverage
of
28
percent
of
foreign
outdoor
only
self-service
storage
facility
in
order
to
grab
variance.
Three
findings
need
to
be
made
one.
The
variation
I
grant
special
Rider
privilege,
that's
not
otherwise
allowed
in
the
base
District
to
the
variance
release
and
do
hardship
to
do
characteristics
of
the
site,
and
three
of
the
variants
should
not
be
detrimental
to
the
public.
H
Health
safety
and
Welfare
staff
finds
that
the
variances
would
Grant
special
privilege.
That's
not
otherwise
allowed
of
42
other
outdoor.
Only
self-series
storage
facilities
by
not
complying
with
the
100
foot
setback
from
a
residential
property
line
and
to
exceed
the
maximum
site
coverage
of
20
allowed
for
an
outdoor.
Only
self-service
storage
facility
staff
also
finds
that
the
variance
does
not
relieving
undue
hardship
due
characteristics
of
the
site,
as
the
project
could
be
designed
to
comply
with
the
100
foot.
H
Setback
from
a
residential
property
line
and
the
footprint
of
the
project
could
be
made
smaller
to
comply
with
the
maximum
site
coverage
of
20
allowed
for
an
outdoor-only
self-service
storage
facility
staff.
Funds
at
the
variance
is
detrimental
to
the
public
health
safety
and
Welfare,
as
the
facility
does
not
have
adequate
fire
lanes
and
or
turnarounds,
and
it
would
detract
from
the
scenic
beauty
of
the
Payette
River
sneak
byway.
H
There
were
a
couple
of
random
comets
in
opposition
to
this
project.
In
the
comments
they
mentioned
that
there
are
currently
RV
people
living
in
RVs
on
the
property,
they
are
concerned
that
the
facility
will
create
a
dangerous
traffic
situation
on
Highway
55.
They
are
concerned
about
fire
safety
and
they
find
that
the
facility
to
be
an
eyesore
as
the
facility
currently
has
no
screening
key
agencies
that
responded
to
this
application
include
the
Sea
of
eagle
and
the
eagle
fire
district.
H
The
Sea
of
Eagle
is
recommending
for
the
board
to
deny
the
application
they
find
that
the
facility
would
have
an
adverse
impact
on
the
paint
river
snake
by
the
way
as
the
facility
would
detract
from
the
scenic.
Intrinsic
quality
of
the
byway
they're
also
concerned
that
direct
access
onto
the
highway
in
this
location
will
have
a
significant
negative
impacts
on
the
regional
transportation
system.
The
eagle
fire
district
identified
an
area
that
was
missing
a
fire
department
approved
turnaround
and
know
that
one
of
the
dry
vials
will
need
to
be
increased
to
20
feet.
H
H
A
I
Great
feasler
at
13321,
North,
Orchard,
Bend,
Road
I,
was
surprised
to
hear
all
of
this.
This
has
come
to
me.
This
is
the
first
time
I've
done
this,
so
it's
I'm
new
to
it
a
little
bit
nervous.
You
know
in
June
of
2020
residents
in
the
area.
Dry
Creek
avamor
neighbors
stopped
into
my
property
to
see
about
storage
because
they
don't
have
storage
in
avamor
or
in
Dry
Creek
subdivision
I.
Let
them
know
that
I
would
make
some
calls
see
if
it
was
doable.
I
called
this.
I
The
office
is
here
and
I
got
a
bunch
of
misinformation
and,
on
my
behalf,
I
apologize
for
going
through
with
it,
without
confirming
the
information
that
I
got.
I
got
a
citation
from
Ada
County
Sheriff's
Office
and
have
been
diligently
moving
forward
in
the
whole
process.
Doing
everything
they
have
asked
of
me
paying
all
of
my
fees.
You
know
I'm
at
a
point
right
now,
where
it
was
stopped
before
I
put
35
000
into
fencing
and
screening
for
approval
of
the
application.
I
As
far
as
the
churn
Lanes
go,
my
roadways
that
are
in
are
20
foot
wide
with
24
foot
turns
at
the
corners
around
the
whole
storage
area.
As
far
as
access
off
of
Highway
55,
all
of
my
current
customers.
Again,
it
is
an
open
facility.
Right
now
they
haven't
told
me
no.
I
Foreign,
if
you
go
to
the
highway
and
you've
all
probably
been
on
55,
there
is
nothing
but
wrecks
and
stuff
up
there,
but
all
of
my
customers
know
a
whole
property.
Before
you
come
into
mine,
they
hit
their
turn
signals.
They
hit
their
brake
lights.
They
slow
down,
there's
not
a
skid
mark
on
my
roads
out
there,
whereas
you
go
either
direction
around
me.
I
Yeah
the
highway
is
safe
out
there.
People
are
driving
at
55
miles
an
hour
coming
around
Beacon
lights,
heading
to
Horseshoe,
Bend
and
then
they're
racing
to
get
first
in
line
to
get
through
there
again,
I've
had
no
issues
in
almost
two
years
with
traffic
problems.
There
you
know
I
asked
that
the
board
considered
the
approval
of
my
application
for
the
open
storage.
It's
a
needed
facility
once
the
screening
once
the
fencing
goes
up.
I
It
is
out
of
sight
out
of
mind
I've
priced
and
turned
into
the
county
for
the
trees,
for
the
fencing,
I'm
ready
to
go
on
it's.
Of
course,
it's
going
to
be
Springtime
now
before
I
can
do
anything,
but
it's
something
that's
needed
in
the
area
and
it's
been
requested
by
the
residents
of
that
area.
That
I
think
if
any
of
you
have
to
do
storage,
you
know
how
limited
storage
is
so
with
that
I'll
wait.
Your
decision.
Thank
you,
hello,.
B
I
But
the
residents
in
Dry,
Creek
and
avamar,
who
are
my
customers
that
are
there
because
when
avamore
was
put
in
and
when
Dry
Creek
subdivision
is
put
in,
there
is
no
trailer
parking
and
they're
all
HOAs,
so
they
can't
park
their
trailers
at
their
homes.
So
it's
a
needed
facility.
I,
don't
know!
If
of
all
these
people
here,
if
any
of
them
are
my
customers
that
may
have
showed
up.
B
That's
fine.
Thank
you
all.
I
D
I
D
I
Been
great
and
again
I
proactively
move
forward
ever
since
the
citation
and
done
everything
that's
been
asked
of
me
to
the
point
where
I'm
at
this
meeting
now
I
guess
waiting
for
the
decision
do
I
continue
to
move
forward
or
do
I
have
to
shut
down.
D
H
So
Mr
chairman
commissioner
Davidson,
if
the
board
so
choose
you
could
possibly
you
know,
table
this
application
and
then
have
him
resubmit,
a
revised
site
plan
and
then
the
site,
revised
I
plan
then
could
be
reviewed
by
staff
and
obviously
we
could
obviously
have
the
Neighbors
review
that
as
well
as
well
as
you
review
it.
That
would
be
an
option
that
you
guys
would
have
at
your
disposal.
D
Well,
that
that
may
be
something
you
might
want
to
consider
doing.
Certainly
don't
want
you
to
invest
a
lot
of
money
until
you
have
a
better
idea.
D
I
know
it's
frustrating,
but
Mr
I'd
probably
be
interested
in
tabling
and
allowing
him
to
resubmit
if
he
so
chooses.
A
B
So
I
just
want
to
make
clear
if
we
table
it
that
it's
very
clear
on
what
you
know
the
board
is
looking
for.
So
if
you
made
a
motion
to
table
I'd
want
you
to
make
a
motion
that
would
be
specific
on
on
again.
What
we're
looking
to
for
staff
to
do.
The
facility
lacks
adequate
size,
fire
lanes
and
he
just
stated
that
they're
20
foot
roads
with
24
foot.
H
On
the
so
Mr
chairman
and
commissioner
Kenyan
on
the
when
Eagle
fired
us
when
they
responded
the
the
site
plan
that
they
had
noted,
there's
a
they
would
want
him
to
you
know.
If
this
to
get
approved,
he
would
need
to
submit
a
revised
site
plan
for
review
by
eagle
fire
district
to
show
the
area
in
the
back
of
the
house
to
be
expanded.
B
H
A
possibility
so
the
Mr
chairman
commissioner
Kenya
the
property
is
on
the
pay,
River
sink
byway
and
So.
Based
on
the
comments
that
we
had
received
from
the
Save
eagle
and
also
from
some
of
the
neighbors.
You
know
that
was
a
concern
that
the
Sea
of
Eagle
had
and
the
neighbors
has
well
and
so
that
you
know
they
would
have
to
do
some.
H
You
know
Landscaping
that
would
screen
the
property
and
the
use
from
the
highway,
because
with
the
scene,
by
way,
you
want
to
keep
it
more
of
a
natural
kind
of
feel
along
the
highway
there
for
the
scenic
qualities.
So
we
would
have
to
would
want
to
see
a
landscape
plan
that
would
adequately
screen
and
kind
of
screen
the
use.
So
it
wasn't
as
visible
from
the
highway
as
is
currently
and
then
we'd
also
want
to
have
it
screened
so
that
it
would
have
less
of
an
impact
on
the
immediate
neighbors
adjacent
to
the
property
itself.
B
And
then
the
board
found
that
this
does
not
meet
with
the
rural
urban
transition
District
that
complies
with
eagles
comp
plan.
So
we
couldn't
change
that.
H
So
so,
basically
staff,
my
colleague,
Brent
Moore,
you
know
kind
of
looked
through
the
comp
plan
policies
and
that
was
based
on
the
comp
plan.
Basically,
it
has
to
be
typically,
you
could
have
more
of
a
commercial
use
if
it's
related
to
like
an
agricultural
type
use
and
So.
Based
on
his
interpretation
of
the
comprehensive
plan,
the
appeared
to
Brent
more
that
you
know
this
really
wasn't
related
to
an
agricultural
use.
H
A
J
A
Consideration?
Okay,
so
we
can.
We
can
table
it
with
recommendations
that
if
they
want
to
proceed,
they
need
to
do
the
do
the
following:
the
not
how
about
the
50,
the
100
foot
setbacks.
This
plant
only
has
50
foot
setbacks.
H
So,
basically,
with
the
specific
use
standard,
the
outdoor
self-service
storage
facility,
Mr
chairman,
has
specific
use
standards
and
so,
basically,
with
the
specific
use
standards
for
the
outdoor,
only
self-service
storage
facility,
it
has
to
be
set
back
a
certain
number
of
feet
from
an
adjacent
residential
property
line,
and
so
basically
you
know
for
this
use.
You
would
have
to
make
sure
that
you
know
he's.
H
D
A
D
Right,
chair,
yeah,
so
question
staff.
He
does
have
the
existing
facility
right
there
there
right
now
and
I
would
imagine
that
you
know
the
the
sightliness
concerns
exist
for
you
know,
what's
there
at
the
moment
you
know,
could
you
almost
make
the
argument
that
if
his
you
know
the
Redevelopment
goes
through,
the
expansion
goes
through
with
the
additional
requirements
that
would
actually
decrease
the
unsightliness
that
exists
now.
H
B
A
All
right,
well,
I
think
it's
I
will
ask
if
there's
any
anybody
who
wants
to
make
discussion
all
right.
Could
you
come
forward
and
give
us
your
name
you'll.
K
My
name
is
Roxanne
shaper
I
live
at
13343
North
Horseshoe
Bend
Road,
which
is
two
doors
up
from
this
proposed
mess.
We've
lived
there
since
July
7th
1989.,
so
we've
seen
a
lot
of
changes
to
the
highway
avamor
Dry
Creek.
All
this,
the
development
and
I
can
tell
you
that
this
does
not
fit.
This
is
inappropriate
for
a
Scenic,
byway
I,
don't
think,
there's
anything
that
can
be
done.
K
Big
fans,
I
I,
just
can't
imagine
anything
that
would
make
this
fit
in
to
what
the
intent
of
the
scenic
byway
is.
In
addition,
we
have
big
concerns
about
the
security
about
the
runoff
into
Dry
Creek,
about
vehicles
that
are
for
sale
on
the
property.
Some
of
it
has
RV
some
of
its
RVs.
Some
of
it
is
commercial
vehicles.
K
It
looks
terrible.
We
can
see
it
out
our
front
door,
so
we
would
hope
that
you
would
deny
this
I
again.
I
can't
imagine
what
can
be
done
to
make
it
fit
in,
even
if
you
put
barriers
and
fences
and
things
like
that,
it's
going
to
look
completely
out
of
place
right
now.
If
you
drive
up
the
highway,
I've
had
friends,
go
up
the
highway
and
they
say
to
me
Roxanne:
do
you
have
a
junkyard
two
doors
up
from
you
and
I'm?
No,
it's
RV
storage
I
realize
it
looks
a
little
funky.
K
They
are
RVs
but
they're
in
their
haphazard
willy-nilly.
This
way,
and
that
way
there
isn't
good
access
onto
Highway
55
from
the
property
the
property
is
set
down
and
the
people
would
have
to
pull
up
our
our
driveway
is
very
steep
I
can't
some
something
would
have
to
be
done
to
Greg's
driveway
in
order
for
it
to
be
safe
for
people
pulling
a
huge
RV
onto
the
highway.
Maybe
maybe
several
in
the
summer
going
in
and
out
of
there
we
don't.
We
are
not
happy
with
the
fact
that
there
would
be
a
lot
of
people.
K
We
don't
know
a
lot
of
traffic
going
in
and
out
of
there
he's
proposing
to
stay
open
until
nine
o'clock
at
night.
The
people
that
live
right
next
door
to
us,
I'm
sure
they're,
going
to
come
up
and
comment
have
a
horse
facility.
They
don't
need
people
in
and
out
of
the
property
or
looking
over
their
fans,
possibly
interfering
with
the
horses.
It
just
doesn't
fit,
plus
it.
It
impacts
our
property
value,
and
you
know
and
I
know.
K
Greg
said
there
isn't
any
storage
close
by,
but
there
is
one
proposed
at
the
corner
of
Brookside
and
Highway
55
that
we're
not
all
that
happy
about,
but
if
it
goes
through,
then
there
will
be
storage
there
and
it
will
go
through
the
process
and
be
built
the
way
it
should
be
built.
This
has
just
everything's
just
arrived
there
and
thank
you
I
appreciate
it.
A
L
Hello
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Megan
Bennett
I
live
at
3227,
East,
Quail,
Creek
Lane,
immediately
behind
this
property.
So
we
share
a
back
property
line.
I
sent
you
a
letter
with
our
concerns
about
this.
When
we
purchase
this
property,
we
moved
from
somewhere
else
in
Eagle,
because
we
wanted
a
more
rural
setting
and
we
bought
this
five
acres
and
we
were
judicious
about
pouring
over
the
eagle,
comprehensive
plan.
Achd's
plan
for
the
area
and
nothing
in
any
of
those
plans,
commented
that
there
would
be
a
storage
facility
immediately
behind
us.
L
We
believe
that
this
would
drastically
negatively
affect
those
of
us
who
call
this
area.
A
home.
L
Achd
has
commented
that
they
would
like
to
limit
the
number
of
vehicles
turning
out
on
directly
onto
the
highway
and
they
have
proposed
a
frontage
road
that
will
go
from
Beacon
Light
and
join
up
at
Brookside
Lane,
and
they
are
counting
on
each
property
owner,
as
the
property
is
redeveloped
to
put
in
a
portion
of
a
frontage
road.
We
see
no
mention
of
a
frontage
road
on
his
plans.
L
L
They
also
mentioned
that
individual
Lots
along
the
highway
should
be
discouraged
and
from
using
direct
access
onto
the
highway
like
I
mentioned,
commercial
property
should
be
an
extension
of
other
existing
commercial
areas,
and
this
would
be
a
commercial
area
in
the
middle
of
rut.
It
completely
does
not
fit
with
the
area.
The
creek
that
runs
through
this
property,
like
they
mentioned,
is
a
designated
Wildlife.
Corridor
I've,
seen
no
reports
of
an
environmental
study
how
this
would
affect
Dry
Creek.
L
We
have
numerous
concerns
about
security
that
will
be
provided
at
this
storage
facility.
Individuals
have
lived
in
trailers
on
the
past
on
the
property
and
that's
very
concerning
for
us.
We
saw
no
mention
of
landscaping
that
will
be
provided
to
screen
neighboring,
Residential
Properties
from
light
pollution
and
the
purpose
of
the
rut.
Zoning:
that's
there
is
to
allow
a
transition
from
the
rural
five
acre
lots
that
we
have
in
our
neighborhood
over
to
more
urban
uses
at
lights,
at
traffic
lights,
and
this
is
right
in
the
middle
of
the
block.
L
We,
we
love
our
area,
it's
quiet
and
peaceful,
and
this
is
just
a
real
eyesore
in
the
area
and
we
we
would
encourage
you
where
it
doesn't
fit
with
the
zoning
and
it
doesn't
fit
with
the
use
of
the
area
to
go
ahead
and
deny.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Are
there,
others
that
wish
to
testify
on
this
application.
A
Good
evening,
could
you
give
us
your
name
for
the
record.
M
Good
evening
my
name
is
Vicki.
Foshay
I
am
also
not
in
favor
of
this
being
pushed
through
for
many
reasons
that
the
lovely
woman
in
front
of
me
spoke
about
EPA
very
concerned
about
the
Dry
Creek.
There
are
people
living
on
that
property
in
trailers
and
I
am
a
frequent
visitor,
an
overnight
guest
to
an
adjacent
property
and
I
have
yet
to
ever
see
a
truck
come
in
and
pump
out.
So
I'd
like
to
know
where
that
trailer
is
being
dumped
out
or
trailers
are
being
dumped
out.
M
There
is
no
visible
fencing
between
the
two
lands
right
now
and
if
it
has
to
be
a
hundred
feet
away
from
The
Neighbors
that
is
going
to
impact
the
size
of
his
storage
facility,
it
is
an
absolute
eyesore.
I
go
out
there
and
I'm,
just
amazed
that
Ada
County
decided
to
deny
the
storage
facility
on
the
corner
of
55
and
Beacon
Light,
which
would
have
been
a
beautiful
facility.
M
Yet
maybe
you
might
approve
this
one,
which
is
a
huge
eyesore.
It's
not
a
safe
place.
There
are
people
going
in
and
out
I've
seen
them
over
the
weekends
and
through
the
week,
what's
the
liability
for
that
place,
what
if
somebody
younger,
gets
out
of
a
car
and
gets
to
the
neighbors
and
they
get
through
the
fence?
M
Is
somebody
living
in
a
trailer
on
the
place?
Okay,
yep,
okay,
go
ahead.
I
also
think
that
it's
a
used
car
lot
sale
like
one
of
the
neighbors
spoke
about.
There
are
all
kinds:
there's
boats,
RVs,
ATVs
trucks
for
sale.
M
Is
there
a
business
license
for
that
as
well?
I,
just
think
it
really
needs
to
be
thought
through
and
not
tabled,
and
hopefully
this
will
be
denied.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
N
Hi
folks,
my
name
is
Garrett
Foshay
I
live
directly
next
door
at
13327,
North,
Horseshoe,
Bend,
Road
I
would
ask
that
you
please
don't
table
this
immediately,
deny
it,
as
some
of
my
neighbors
have
put
before
us.
There's
a
lot
of
issues
with
that
property.
I,
don't
have
any
problems
with
Greg,
but
I
don't
want
to
live
next
to
this,
there's
no
adequate
fencing
on
the
property.
A
six
foot
fence
at
the
at
the
top
side
of
the
road
isn't
going
to
do
anything.
N
Currently,
the
property
sits
roughly
12
feet
below
the
road
surface,
so
a
six
foot
fence
is
not
going
to
do
anything
to
block
any
maple
trees
that
go
in
are
going
to
take
20
years
to
reach
maturity
and
even
then
you'll
still
be
able
to
see
over
the
top.
As
mentioned,
there's
people
living
in
trailers
on
the
property
not
acceptable.
N
It's
just
we've
traffic's
a
horrible
issue.
So
far
already
you
know,
as
mentioned
that
traffic
isn't
a
problem.
I
can
tell
you.
In
two
years,
I've
witnessed
six
accidents
on
the
road
major
accidents,
one
of
them
being
a
fatality
of
a
young
mom
who
pulled
over
pulled
their
trailer
onto
the
side
of
the
road
and
was
struck
by
a
drunk
driver.
N
This
was
on
a
Friday
afternoon
at
six
o'clock.
Construction
workers
across
the
road
had
to
chase
the
driver
down.
I'm
sure
you
guys
all
heard
about
it
in
the
news.
So
the
fact
that
this
property,
like
traffic,
isn't
an
issue
as
a
resident.
Turning
into
my
own
driveway
I've
been
passed
on
the
left
and
passed
on
the
right.
I've
been
threatened.
I've
had
people
pull
try
to
pull
down
my
driveway.
It's
not
acceptable.
N
I've
had
customers
of
this
property
pull
into
my
property
and
then
get
mad
at
me,
because
they've
made
a
mistake
and
I've
yelled
at
them.
It's
there's
no
situation
where
this
this
business
should
be
approved.
In
this
sense,
these
are
homes
that
were
built
and
designed
for
a
community.
It's
there's
a
reason
why
it's
agricultural
land,
if
there's
a
reason
why
it's
rural
we're
supposed
to
keep
it
that
way
protected.
We
need
to
protect
Dry
Creek
and
one
of
the
issues
with
doing
approving
this
is.
It
sets
a
precedent
from
now
on.
N
Anyone
in
the
area,
that's
zoned.
Rut
is
going
to
have
the
option
to
convert
their
property
to
Commercial
and
slowly.
This
rural
area,
that
so
many
people
love
to
enjoy
pass
through
live
in
is
going
to
get
chipped
away
and
we've
seen
it
happen
in
other
communities
in
other
states.
It
sets
a
precedent
that
is
really
dangerous
for
the
area
and
does
nothing
to
protect
the
neighborhood.
N
I
On
a
couple
of
things,
yes,
I
do
have
a
brother-in-law
living
in
his
trailer.
There
is
no
hookups
other
than
power
to
his
trailer.
He
uses
my
shower
uses
my
toilet.
He
works
at
BSU.
He
showers
at
work.
He
comes
into
the
house,
he's
there
on
a
temporary
basis.
I've
already
talked
with
Ada
County
Sheriff
on
he
does
have
to
go.
He
knows
that
he's
retiring
from
BSU
and
going
on
the
road
with
his
trailer.
I
So
as
far
as
fencing
and
screening
goes,
Garrett
was
a
little
bit
wrong
on
elevation,
I'm,
seven
foot,
my
property
sits
down
from
the
highway.
My
question
to
Ada
County
Highway
division
was
why
I
put
up
a
six
foot
fence
when
it's
going
to
be
a
foot
below
your
grade
anyway,
which
is
why
part
of
my
application
turned
in
was
the
fence
for
one
and
70
trees
of
various
sizes
on
both
sides
of
the
fence
to
grow
and
to
do
the
screening
on
it.
I
So
that
has
been
turned
in
with
my
application
and
again
as
far
as
the
the
looks
of
it
now
yeah
it's.
What
wide
open
sitting
on
my
property
is
what
it
is
I
didn't
know
when
I
started,
this
I'd
have
to
put
a
fence
and
screening
up.
I
do
know
now
and
that's
part
of
the
application
process.
I've
financially
am
ready
to
back
it
to
do
it.
I
I
just
need
to
have
the
approval
to
move
forward
on
it,
and
if
that
means
now,
I
need
to
put
another
900
foot
offense
between
myself
and
my
neighbor
on
his
horse
farm
I
will
put
900
feet
of
fence
up
to
block
or
stop
any
possible
tenants
of
mine
going
into
their
property.
But
I
have
people
that
drive
in
hook
up
to
their
trailers
and
leave.
They
come
back
unhook
their
trailers.
It's
dry
storage,
no
water
power,
sewer,
nothing,
they
bring
them
in.
They
drop
them.
They
go.
They
come
back
so
again.
I
I
understand
everybody's
concerns.
It's
it's
not
something.
I
was
looking
to
do
when
I
got
into
the
property
it
fell
in
my
lap
and
it's
to
me
it's
possibly.
My
retirement
at
home,
I'm,
retired
and
I
will
make
it
as
clean
and
visually
okay
for
anybody
passing
by
or
coming
and
using
the
facility.
So
that's
all
I
have
I
hope
to
have
this
tabled
and
let
me
do
the
reapplication
process
on
it.
Thank.
D
You
Mr
chair:
how
long
have
you
had
your
your
current
facility?
There.
I
People
came
in
on
June
of
2020
and
it
was
July
after
I
made
phone
calls
to
this
building.
I
ain't
got
misinformation
that
I
went
through
with
it,
so
it's
gradually
grown
since
then
to
a
point
where
I
have
I
think
there's
48
trailers.
They
are
parked
back
to
back.
Some
of
it
is
cattywampus
in
the
property.
That's
because
I'm
re-excavating,
flattening
out
and
building
a
berm
up
at
the
highway
to
help
block
I'm
doing
everything
I
can
to
make
it
visually.
D
Would
would
tabling
or
denial
essentially
have
the
same
effect
where
any
other
circumstance
he
could
resubmit
a
different
plan
if
he
wanted.
H
So
Mr
chairman
and
commissioner
Davidson,
you
know
so
if,
if
you
did
deny
this
application,
he
does
have
the
right
to
to
reapply
for
a
new
application.
So
that
is
something
that
he
could
do.
Okay,.
D
H
Guessing
yeah,
so
you'd
have
to
pay
a
new
application
fee
to
do
that.
The
one
thing
I'm
not
quite
sure
in
terms
of
the
code
enforcement
you
know
be.
You
know,
coefferson
may,
depending
on
what
you
decision
make
tonight.
You
know
co-forcement
may
have
timelines
that
he
needs
to
follow
so
I,
don't
know
if
he
would
meet
the
timelines
that
code
force
would
have
if
he
was
to
reapply.
B
A
All
right,
I
will
close
the
we'll
be
carrying
on
application.
Two
zero
two:
two:
two
zero
twenty,
two
two
and
one
six,
seven
V
ee,
great
professler,
all
right
the
application
has
been.
The
hearing
has
been
closed.
Is
there
a
discussion
from
the
board
yeah.
B
Well,
I
as
much
as
I
empathize
with
Mr
fissler,
and
wanting
to
have
this
property's
retirement
I
think
coming
before
this
board
with
an
application
that
is
pretty
much
fraught
with
a
lot
of
issues
and
problems
and
coming
with
a
recommended
denial
from
staff,
in
addition
to
existing
code
violations
that
have
not
been
cleaned
up,
I,
just
don't
feel
that
Mr
fissler's
shown
in
good
faith
that
he
is
capable
of
doing
the
things.
B
Even
if
we
were
to
table
this
so
I'm
going
to
be
recommending
just
a
denial
on
this
I
think
it's
on
the
pay
at
Scenic
byway
and
it's
in
the
middle
of
a
rural
agricultural
Community
I.
Just
don't
think
this
commercial
use
is
compatible.
I,
think
there's
safety
issues
on
Highway,
55
and
I
think
there's
potential
environmental
issues
with
Dry
Creek
as
well.
So
I
would
ask
Mr
fissler
to
take
care
of
his
code
violations
first
and
then
take
some
more
time
to
possibly.
A
Well,
I
tend
to
agree
with
that.
It
seems
as
though
there
is
a
significant
code
violations
and
there
would
be
nothing
that
would
prevent
Mr
a
vissler
from
seeking
out
the
advice
of
the
fire
district
and
the
City
of
eagle
and
to
present
an
application
that
would
be
compatible,
but
this
application
is
is
not
compatible.
I
I
will
tend
to
support
these
the
staff's
decision,
any
other
discussion.
D
Well,
Mr,
chair,
I,
I,
don't
think
it
meets
the
requirements
for
granting
a
variance
as
presented
yeah.
We
have
the
three
prongs
we
have
to
go
by
and
I'm
not
sure
met
either
one
or
any
of
the
three.
That's
not
to
say
a
subsequent
proposal
couldn't
be
granted.
I
expressed
no
opinion
on
on
when
whether
any
other
subsequent
proposals
would
be
granted
or
not,
everything
has
to
be
taken
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
but
you
know
we've
heard
from
staff
we've
heard
from
the
neighbors.
D
There
are,
you
know
significant
concerns
and
I
seriously
hope
you
can
remedy
them,
but
again,
you're
I
would
say
if
this
is
denied
you're
you're
free
to
resubmit
I
would
encourage
you
to
take
into
consideration
some
of
the
things
you've
heard.
I
know
no
matter
what
you
submit.
It'll
it'll
probably
be
contentious,
but
if
you
do
come
back,
I
think
you
could
probably
have
a
plan
that
may
address
some
of
the
issues
that
were
brought
up.
B
J
Chairman,
yes,
we
did
have
our
WebEx
Services
go
down
and
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
interested
parties
that
we
would
like
to
testify
via
WebEx
on
one
or
two
of
the
next
items
that
you're
going
to
consider
so
I.
Wonder
if
it'd
be
possible
to
take
a
short
break
and
see
if
we
can
get
it
back
up.
J
Youtube
yeah
Mr,
chairman
and
Commissioners,
we
are
still
broadcasting.
We
could
certainly
try
to
get
it
up
and
running
as
we
as
we
proceed.
The
the
participants
online.
Hopefully,
if
they're
watching
on
YouTube
They
can
they
can
stay
stay
up
to
date,
but
I
did
want
to
make
you
aware
that
that's
gone
down
and
and
it.
A
A
Yeah,
we'll
we'll
we'll
go
and
proceed
and
then,
if
you
want
to,
if
you
can
work
on
the
WebEx
to
get
that
running,
then
at
the
at
that
point
in
time.
When
you
get
it
up,
we
can.
We
can
take
some
test
money
from
the
public
if
they're
interested
in
them.
Okay,
with
that
I'll
accept
a
motion
to
remove
the
unfinished
business
from
the
table.
D
Mr,
chair
I
moved
to
remove
the
unfinished
business
from
the
table
for
consideration.
A
C
A
Right,
thank
you.
Okay,
with
that,
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
on
application.
Number
two:
zero:
two:
two:
zero
one:
seven:
two:
eight
CPA,
z,
c,
Dash
d,
a
c:
u
m
s,
p,
Griffin
marketing,
we'll
take
a
first
I,
will
take
a
report
from
our
staff
and
I
might
add
that
I
need
to
disclose
that
I
am
familiar
with
Sebastian
Griffin
I
have
I've
had
no
no
discussions
on
this
particular
issue,
but
I
am
familiar
with
it.
A
D
H
Ahead,
Mr
chairman
and
Commissioners
project
number
2022-01728
cpa-zc
Dash
D,
a
dash
CU
Dash
MSP
is
a
comprehensive
plan
map,
Amendment
zone
change,
development
agreement,
conditional
use
and
master
site
plan
for
our
310
unit
recreational
vehicle
park.
The
property
is
located
at
7680,
West
Vallejo
Road
and
contains
39.55
Acres.
The
subject:
property
has
historically
been
an
outdoor
shooting
range
known
as
Black
Dog
clays.
H
The
surrounding
area
is
rural
and
residential
north
of
the
New
York
Canal.
There
is
proposed
development
called
Mario
Farms,
which
would
be
developed
in
the
city
of
Boise.
If
that
ever
gets
approved,
the
applicant
has
applied
for
a
comprehensive
plan
map
Amendment
and
zoning
ordinance
map
Amendment
to
rezone
the
subject
property
from
the
Rural
Preservation
District
to
the
neighborhood
commercial
District
to
construct
a
recreational
vehicle
park
on
the
site
as
long
or
its
map.
A
moment
is
near
to
ease
on
the
property
to
a
zoning
District
where
a
recreational
vehicle
park
is
an
allowed
use.
H
The
comprehensive
plan
map
amendment
is
needed
to
change
the
future
land
use
designation
from
rangeland
to
commercial,
to
support
the
reason
of
the
property
from
the
Royal
preservation
District
to
the
neighborhood
commercial
District.
The
applicable
encumbrance
of
plan
is
a
county
comprehensive
plan.
H
The
future
land
use
map
is
in
the
conference
of
play
designates
the
size
rangeland,
since
the
proposed
recreational
vehicle
park
is
not
compatible
with
the
existing
Rangeline
designation.
The
applicant
has
requested
a
comprehensive
plan
map
Amendment
to
redesignate
the
property
as
commercial
within
which
the
proposed
use
could
be
allowed.
H
H
Conversely,
a
benefit
of
rezoning,
the
property
to
the
neighborhood
commercial
district
is
that
it
would
allow
recreational
vehicle
park,
create
a
controlled
and
regulated
environment
where
recreational
vehicles
could
be
kept.
There
is
a
strong
need
for
additional
Recreational
Vehicle
Parks
to
be
developed
in
the
Treasure
Valley.
H
The
applicant
has
applied
for
conditional
use
to
master
site
plan
for
the
RV
park.
The
RV
park
would
have
310
spaces
and
would
be
developed
in
three
phases.
The
park
will
include
both
short
and
long-term
stays.
The
app
can
stay
in
their
detail
there
that
they'll
have
rules
in
place
to
maintain
a
high
standard
of
quality
in
the
park.
The
applicant
will
bring
domestic
water
to
the
site,
which
will
be
provided
by
Viola
water.
The
park
will
have
an
RV
dumping
station
and
the
Central
District
Health
Department
would
need
to
approve
of
the
dumping
station.
H
There
are
two
petitions
that
had
been
circulated
regarding
this
project
with
both
petitions
gardening
many
signatures,
one
petition
is
in
favor
of
the
project
and
the
other
is
in
opposition
to
the
project.
Those
in
opposition
have
their
concerns
of
the
project,
include
traffic
compatibility
with
the
existing
neighborhood
and
groundwater.
H
All
right,
so
those
I'll
I'll
kind
of
start
back
at
the
top
of
this
slide.
So
those
in
opposition
have
their
comments
and
general
concerns
of
the
project
include
traffic
compatibility
with
the
existing
neighborhood
and
ground
wire.
The
neighbors
are
concerned
that
the
project
will
increase
traffic
on
Coal
Road
and
there
are
Vape
our
customers
will
utilize
hollyland
drive
to
cut
across
to
Pleasant
Valley
Road.
Many
neighbors
have
also
stated
that
the
proposed
RV
park
is
not
compatible
with
the
existing
neighborhood
and
land
uses
as
the
surrounding
areas,
rural
in
nature.
H
Some
of
the
comments
mentioned
that
the
RV
park
would
have
an
adverse
effect
on
groundwater
in
the
area
and
it
would
cause
neighboring
walls
to
go
dry.
The
applicant
has
proposed
to
bring
Viola
War
to
the
site,
Viola's
Wells
tap
into
a
deeper
aquifer
than
the
shallower
aquifer
that
the
neighboring
Wells
are
currently
tapping
into.
Thus,
if
the
proposed
RV
park
hooks
up
to
the
viola
wire
system,
it
should
not
be
affecting
the
neighboring
shallower
Wells.
H
The
consumers
also
raised
at
the
RV
dump
station
will
contaminate
and
degrade
groundwater
if
the
project
is
approved.
The
central.
If
the
project
is
approved,
the
Central
District
Health
Department,
we
need
to
approve
of
the
RV
dump
station,
a
member
of
the
public
state
that
there
is
a
health
public
health
risk
on
the
site.
Due
to
the
accumulation
of
lead
on
the
property.
The
applicant
has
to
say
that
they
will
remediate
the
site
for
this
project.
Their
mediation
would
need
to
meet
standards
layout
by
the
Idaho
Department
of
Environmental
Quality.
H
An
adjacent
neighbor
was
also
concerned
with
a
lack
of
a
buffer
between
the
RV
park
and
their
property
line,
and
there
were
also
apprehensive
about
the
potential
for
wildfires
from
the
site.
Those
in
favor
of
the
application
I
see
that
there
is
a
tremendous
need
for
another
RV
Park
in
the
Treasure
Valley,
as
the
existing
RV
parks
in
the
Treasure
Valley
are
full.
The
proposed
RV
park
will
provide
an
additional
place
for
RV
travelers
to
stay
as
they
visit
Boise
in
the
Treasure
Valley,
and
it
will
reduce
the
number
of
RVs.
H
Apart
on
the
public
roadways,
the
proposed
RV
park
will
improve
some
of
the
current
problems
that
the
surrounding
neighborhood
is
facing,
such
as
widening
and
adding
a
shoulder
to
Vallejo
Road
from
the
Cedric
property
to
Cole
Road
and
extending
the
viola
wires
wire
system
to
the
area,
making
it
easier
for
those
experiencing
issues
with
their
walls
to
hook
up
to
public
water
system
and
providing
additional
fire
suppression.
Support
to
the
area
as
the
park
will
have
fire
hydrants.
H
H
The
Boise
fire
department
will
require
fire
hydrants
turn
your
area
for
dead
access
and
dead-end
access,
roads
and
improved
driving
service
of
asphalt,
concrete
or
another
approved
driving
surface.
The
a
County
Highway
District
the
reply
that
the
RV
park
is
estimated
to
generate
1085
additional
vehicle
trips
per
day
in
99
additional
vehicle
trips
per
hour
in
the
PMP
hour.
Based
on
the
traffic
analysis
that
was
provided
by
the
applicants.
Engineer
the
project
implies
with
acceptable
level
of
service
standards.
H
The
applicant
did
receive
a
letter
yesterday
from
the
a
county
sheriff
Matt
Clifford.
The
sheriff
mentioned
that
it
is
unfair
to
state
that
RV
parks
or
any
other
low-income
housing
projects
will
increase
crime
rates
in
the
area.
The
sheriff
also
say
that
Ada
County
has
many
RV
parks
that
require
very
few
calls
for
service
from
police,
as
they
are
well
managed
and
maintained.
In
this
letter,
that's
up
on
the
screen.
That'll
be
entering
to
the
record,
as
exhibit
number
110
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
A
B
Mr
chair,
yes,
yeah
I'm,
assuming
that
the
applicant
will
address
the
the
number
of
units
and
how
long
they
can
stay
there.
The
least
terms
and
things
like
that.
B
A
H
Mr
chairman,
that's
a
good
question
really,
with
the
we
took
into
consideration
with
the
staff
report
and
the
draft
findings
of
fact,
you
know
the
neighbor
comments
that
we
received
from
the
Mia
neighborhood
and
as
staff.
We
were
kind
of
really
on
the
fence,
with
our
recommendations,
so
I
mean
this
is
definitely
will
be
a
definitely
a
difficult
decision
for
you
guys
to
make
as
it
was
for
staff
as
we
made
our
recommendations
so
Mr.
B
Chair
yeah
along
those
lines,
was
the
The
Gun
Club
was
that
grandfathered
in.
H
That
is
so
the
grand
the
gun
range
basically
precedes
the
adoption
of
the
eight
County
zoning
ordinance.
So
there's
evidence
that
we
know
of
that.
The
gun
range
exists
in
1967..
They
kind
of
his
only
audience
went
to
effect,
I
think
it's
like
May
or
April
of
1968.
H
and
there's
a
chance
at
the
gun
range.
You
know
maybe
had
even
predated
that
1967
day,
but
we
know
for
a
fact
that
the
gun
range
has
existed
on
the
property
since
at
least
1967..
Okay,.
A
A
Okay,
all
right
will
is,
is
Griffin
marketing
here
to
make
a
presentation.
A
Q
And
I
just
wanted
to
thank
development
services
they've
been
very
helpful
and
respectful
and
courteous
through
the
whole
process,
so
good
on
you,
Ada
County
you've
made
this
exceptionally
easy
to
apply:
Ridgeview
RV,
Resort
project,
number,
202201728,
CPA,
z,
c,
d,
a
c:
u
m
s,
p,
applicants,
Justin
and
Janet
Griffin
are
in
the
audience
and
I
will
be
presenting
on
their
behalf.
Sebastian
Griffin
next
slide.
Please
and
I'm,
going
to
ask
for
multiple
clicks,
so
I
apologize,
Black,
Dog
Clays.
Q
Next,
you
can
do
the
next
three
one
two
and
what's
the
third
three
right
there.
Currently
Black
Dog
Clays
is
a
24
station,
shotgun,
shooting
range
on
39
and
a
half
acres,
as
mentioned
by
Brett,
it's
been
in
the
county
used
commercially
since
1986
86
87.
It's
on
my
future
slides
87
before
the
Ada
County
zoning
was
approved.
Currently
you
can
see
there
right
now
on
the
map.
Two
more
clicks,
please
Brent
one,
there's
a
magnifying
glass
two
and
one
more
for
us.
Q
It
is
shown
on
the
Southeastern
Ada
County
existing
land
use
as
commercial.
This
has
been
used
commercial
for
many
many
years.
However,
we
are
currently
zoned
as
Rural
Preservation,
so
there's
a
little
bit
of
conflicting
there,
but
as
as
a
shooting
range
in
Ada
County.
It
is
known
for
for
commercial
next
slide.
Please,
the
history
of
Black,
Dog,
Clays,
the
clubhouse
and
other
structures
on
the
property
were
constructed
in
1967,
not
87,
I
apologize,
possibly
earlier.
This
is
just
the
first
recorded
date.
Q
It
was
established
before
the
aid
accounting
zoning
ordinance
was
adopted,
zoned
Rural
Preservation,
but
used
commercially
24
shooting
stations
on
39
and
a
half
acres
go
ahead.
Please
the
concerns
it's
very
important
to
us
not
only
as
having
the
owners
on
the
property
but
having
family
within
the
area
of
impact
and
cousins
and
siblings
and
children
owning
properties
within
the
area
of
impact
that
were
respectful
of
the
neighbors
and
what's
currently
there.
So
we
have
had
our
neighborhood
meeting.
Q
We
have
had
correspondence
via
email
and
constant
Communications
one
received
with
neighbors
to
know
how
can
we
mitigate
issues
to
make
this
best
for
both
parties?
The
phrase
is
NIMBY,
not
in
your
backyard
or
my
backyard.
We
don't
want
it
to
be
a
NIMBY
project.
We
want
this
to
be
some
something
that
creates
a
better
space,
a
safer
space,
a
more
beautiful
space
for
the
area.
Q
Q
Q
We
will
allow
the
Neighbors
after
we
have
brought
the
infrastructure
to
the
area
to
tap
into
that
as
well,
if
they
need
for
their
own
properties,
if
at
any
horrible
Point
their
water
does
dry
up
light
contamination,
as
as
stated
by
Brent,
we
are
working
with
the
Department
of
Environmental
Quality.
Obviously,
no
project
would
be
approved
by
them
until
met
the
standard
of
living
conditions.
This
is
also
exceptionally
important
that
we
believe
for
the
area
having
the
birds
prey
right
nearby.
Q
If
we
found
an
article
through
media
library,
saying
and
stating
that
raptor
is
one
of
the
leading
causes
of
death
is
lead,
poisoning
and
that's
not
lead
poisoning
from
a
shot.
It's
lead
poisoning
from
right,
dead,
animal
mice,
anything
like
that
eating
the
plants
or
the
surrounding
area
plants
or
the
lead
and
poisoning
the
birds
as
they
take
them
off
into
the
other
area.
Q
So
it
is
something
that
we
try
and
mitigate
as
a
shotgun
range,
but
will
be
exceptionally
mitigated
when
the
RV
park
is
put
into
place
to
help
protect
us
and
surrounding
areas
trafficked
in
road
conditions.
We
went
ahead
and
after
meeting
with
achd,
we
did
a
traffic
analysis
and
the
traffic
analysis
did
not
strike
the
threshold
to
need
a
full
study
completed.
The
traffic
was
low
enough
in
the
eyes
of
achd
that
this
won't
be
enough
of
a
need
to
even
do
a
traffic
study.
Q
The
traffic
is
a
slight
increase
from
what
it
is
before
it
is
an
increase,
but
it
is
not
major
enough
to
impose
a
traffic
study
and,
as
Property
Owners,
we
have
agreed
from
coal
road
to
the
property
to
extend
the
road
to
a
necessary
30
feet
with
three
foot
shoulders
on
both
sides.
Now
I
say
this
with
sincerity
and
importance.
Within
the
last
few
months
there
was
a
tragic
accident
that
happened
on
that
roadway.
This
is
because
there
isn't
acceptable
road
conditions
currently
there.
Q
This
is
something
that
we
take
seriously
knowing
of
the
deceased
and
being
a
part
of
the
community
that
this
this
should
not
have
ever
happened,
and
it
should
never
happen
again
so
mentioning
that
there
is
traffic
already
there
there's
already
accidents
happening.
This
road
needs
to
be
extended
and
it
needs
a
developer
willing
to
put
the
the
top
dollar
in
extending
that.
Q
We
have
a
developer
right
here,
wanting
to
do
that,
extending
it
to
the
30
feet
and
three
foot
shoulders
for
walking,
so
it's
safe
for
all
the
neighbors
and
for
members
of
the
community
fire
concerns
in
July
of
this
year.
Fire
was
coming
over
the
hill
right
right,
adjacent
to
these
Property
Owners,
the
fire,
the
Boise
fire
department
and
Whitney
couldn't
do
anything
because
there's
no
fire
suppression
out
there.
They
have
the
wells
to
tap
into,
but
they
do
not
have
fire
hydrants.
Q
They
do
not
have
fire
accessibility,
so
all
that
they
had
was
trucks
to
draw
fire
lines
and
prayers,
and
luckily
it
didn't
peek
over
and
take
anyone's
homes,
animals
lives
and
so
on.
So
it
is
exceptionally
important
that
we
have
the
infrastructure
put
in
the
place.
That's
needed
in
the
area.
Next
slide,
I'm
going
to
show
you
three
documents:
Brent,
you
can
click
one
violia
water
agreement,
two
Whitney
fire
district.
We
went
through
the
time,
effort
and
energy
to
get
the
approval
already
done.
Q
Whitney
has
annexed
Us
in
and
is
offering
us
services
to
the
area,
and
especially
when
we
put
fire
hydrants
in
to
help
mitigate
those
issues
and
number
three
please.
This
is
the
road.
Currently,
as
is
from
an
aerial
view,
you
can't
see
it
off
that
side.
It's
it's
a
drop
off,
there's
not
much
of
a
walking
space.
You
have
to
walk
on
the
street
next
slide,
please.
Q
This
is
the
anticipation
of
the
30-foot
with
putting
in
lines
and
a
three
foot
shoulder
to
allow
people
to
save
spaces
to
walk,
walk
their
dogs
ride
their
horses
along
the
side
of
the
road,
because
we
want
to
maintain
that
that
quality
of
life
as
well,
including
making
it
safe
for
the
local
community
next
slide.
Please
in
the
news
in
this
one
I
will
have
to
help
with.
We
do
not
have
a
microphone
connected
to
that.
So
we
figured
this
out
last
time.
How
we'll
do
it
Brent
next
slide?
R
Q
R
T
U
Yeah
and
there's
a
wide
range
of
people
who
are
staying
here
at
the
KOA
on
those
months
to
month,
sort
of
long-term
options.
Here,
some
see
living
out
of
an
RV
as
a
lifestyle.
It's
a
choice
they
made,
but
for
others
here
they
say
it's
the
only
housing
option
they
could
afford
shoulder
to
shoulder.
The
Meridian
KOA
hosts
a
variety
of
RVs
and
trailers,
but
they
all
serve
the
same
purpose:
housing
yeah.
U
U
I'm
76.
Richard
Morehouse
is
called
the
KOA
homes.
It's
February,
he's
retired
and
lives
on
a
fixed
income.
He
says
the
housing
market
priced
him
out
of
apartments
and
rentals,
so
his
daughter
offered
up
this
trailer
and
helped
him
get
this
spot
at
the
KOA.
So
it
was
nice
of
her
to
do
that
for
her
dad.
Take
a
quick
look
around
the
KOA
decks,
Gardens
and
Home
Improvement
projects
sure
signs.
Many
of
these
trailers
aren't
leaving
anytime
soon
for
them
it's
the
stepping
stone
manager.
U
T
U
W
Think
that
I
seen
this
coming
but.
U
U
Now,
when
people
come
here
to
the
KOA
and
there's
not
a
monthly
spot
open
Forum,
they
asked
me
to
put
on
a
wait
list.
The
manager
tells
me
they've
gotten
rid
of
the
wait
list.
They
got
so
long.
It
was
pretty
irrelevant
to
put
somebody's
name
on
it
because
there's
so
many
months
out
again
a
wide
range
of
people
here,
some
of
them
even
college
students,
Doug
and
Morgan
wow.
Q
Alrighty
and
since
we're
pressed
for
time
on
the
next
slide,
you're
going
to
see
I
reached
out
personally
to
the
12
RV
parks
within
the
valley,
and
these
are
their
responses
that
you'll
see
on
the
next
slide
I'll
begin
reading,
while
he's
pulling
that
next
slide
up
Sebastian
good
morning.
Thank
you
for
your
inquiry
and
our
monthly
site
rentals.
Some
guests
have
been
staying
with
us
two
to
three
months,
but
plans
change
make
them
stay
longer.
We
don't
ask
tenants
in
good
standing
with
us.
It
approved
these
year-round
monthly
sites.
Q
Turn
over
at
three
to
four
per
year.
Do
the
length
of
our
waiting
list.
We
are
no
longer
adding
at
this
time.
If
you
could
go
back.
Brent
four
clicks
two
three
number
two.
First
of
all,
we
will
one
more.
First
of
all,
we
would
like
to
thank
you
for
inquiring
forward
to
I
apologize
first
of
all,
we'd
like
to
thank
you
for
inquiring
about
our
RV
park.
Unfortunately,
we
do
not
have
availability
at
this
time
next
slide.
Please.
Q
We
currently
have
a
waiting
list.
It
is
long
and
our
lease
is
here
are
month
to
month.
So
until
someone
tells
us
they're
moving
out,
we
do
not
know
next
slide
please
good
morning.
Our
waitlist
is
for
full-time
long-term
monthly
sites
is
a
long
one.
I
have
not
been
adding
to
it
because
of
its
length
next
site,
please
that
one's
from
koa's
one
of
these
as
well
we're
sorry.
We
do
not
have
any
long-term
spaces
available
and
are
no
longer
adding
to
our
waitlist,
because
it
is
so
long
next
slide.
Q
Q
A
lot
of
these
Parks
need
these
standards
set
in
place
to
avoid
crime,
and
we
take
that
seriously
next
slide,
please
driveways
Parkways
and
accessibility
for
our
for
the
fire
district
to
be
able
to
access
with
fire
hydrants
through
the
area,
and
you
can
click
through
on
this.
This
is
something
that
we
anticipate
having
I
end.
We
plan
on
similar
to
Ada
County
owns
an
RV
park,
the
Riverside
RV
they
have
ccnr's
as
well,
one
of
which
is
the
the
six
months
or
ten
years
or
newer.
Q
Q
This
is
something
not
only
for
people
of
Tourism,
but,
as
you
saw
in
the
previous
slide,
traveling
nurses
we're
going
to
hear
from
a
former
manager
of
a
Center
Point
RV
report.
There
was
traveling
nurses,
linemen
construction
workers,
college
students,
retirees
all
staying
in
these
long-term
stays.
Next
slide,
please,
as
well
as
the
tourist
side
of
families.
Look
at
that.
That's
amazing!
Someone
in
the
summertime
wants
to
see
the
beauties
of
Idaho,
but
they
have
nowhere
else
to
go,
as
we
saw
in
previous
slides,
there's
no
options
available
for
these
folks.
Q
My
time
is
up
I
had
on
the
next
Slide
the
sheriff's
letter,
but
we
already
got
that
out
of
the
way
so
I
don't
need
to
mention
safety
again
and
the
resources
we
will
have
Services
here
with
water,
with
safety
with
fire
suppression
with
widening
the
road,
we're
creating
a
safe
space,
a
desirable
space,
and
we
are
not
only
creating
that
but
we're
taking
it
to
the
next
level
to
make
it
a
beautiful
area
of
Boise
and
Ada.
County
I
stand
in
yield
for
any
questions.
Okay,.
A
Before
we
get
to
questions,
do
you
have
his
his
documents
for
the
record,
for
as
as.
H
So
the
letter
from
the
sheriff
will
be
exhibit
number
110
and
then
anything
that
was
in
this
PowerPoint
presentation
will
be
exhibit
number
111..
Okay,
all.
A
Right
all
right,
any
questions,
Mr
Griffin
from
the
board
sure
Mr.
D
Chair
yeah,
so
I'm,
not
not
an
RV
park
expert,
but
it
strikes
me
like
there
might
be
two
main
categories
of
customers
who
would
be
using
an
RV
park
on
one
you
have
the
maybe
the
well-off
retired
couple
who
is
wants
to
travel
the
country
and
they're
literally
doing
it
for
recreation,
I
mean
they're
called
recreation
vehicles.
D
The
other
category
are
people
on
the
lower
end
of
the
socioeconomic
ladder
who
are
living
in
RVs
because
they
have
very
few
options
and
the
segment
from
Channel
7.
You
played
kind
of
highlighted
those
types
of
people.
We
do
have
a
lack
of
affordable
housing
in
Ada,
County
and
everybody
knows
it.
It's
not
a
not
a
surprise,
and
so
people
are
taking
to
live
in
RVs,
but
with
no
spaces
they're
living
on
sides
of
the
road
they're
trying
to
find
spots
in
Walmart
parking
lot.
D
Q
These
are
and
to
answer
both
of
your
questions
all
at
the
same
time,
we
are
looking
into
what
the
ccnrs
specifically
would
be,
and
those
would
be
community
community
requirements,
I,
say
10
years,
just
to
mirror
something
like
the
the
Riverside
RV
park,
that's
owned
by
the
county.
They
have
that
kind
of
standard
set
in
place
10
years
or
newer,
because
at
that
point,
they're
they're
run
down
they're
falling
apart
the
the
socioeconomic
issue.
This
is
going
to
be
a
price
point.
Q
That's
going
to
be
affordable
and
available,
whether
in
short-term
or
long-term
stays
for
both
ends
of
those
spectrums.
Like
you
said,
of
course,
because
we
are
on
a
ridge
and
on
a
plat
there's
that
opportunity
for
Ridge
View
spaces
that
might
be
more
of
those
higher
end
spaces
and
lower
down
into
the
the
valley
areas.
That
would
be
a
400
500
550
space
per
month
or
a
60
80
space
per
month.
So
it
is
meant
to
create
a
space
for
both
of
those
parties.
Q
Both
the
affordable
housing,
as
well
as
the
traveling
retirees
that
are
looking
for
a
great
life
here
in
Boise
and
10
years
or
newer,
is
something
that's
being
discussed.
Obviously
we
don't
have
our
set
out
rules
yet
in
place.
We
wanted
to
wait
for
this
hearing
and
to
to
get
those
perspectives
beforehand,
but.
Q
Potentially
I
know
and
as
I
said,
she'll
she'll
be
testifying
as
well.
You
have
individuals
that
in
10
years
and
eight
years
and
it
could
be
Case
by
case
as
well-
I
know
she
when
she
was
overseeing
that
property.
There
would
be
an
11
year,
but
it
looked
nicer
than
the
eight-year
RV
depending
on
the
circumstance.
I
know
a
lot
of
times.
Rv
parks
do
require
imagery
beforehand.
What
does
your
trailer
look
like
will
fit
the
space?
Is
it
playable
for
the
area,
so
it
could
be
Case
by
case
as
well.
D
And
I
guess,
let
me
ask
you
know:
as
far
as
traffic
concerns
go,
people
are
gonna,
you
know
need
to
get
food
somewhere.
Is
there
any
plans
for
maybe
a
little
store
with
Sundries
that
people
could
go
to
to
cut
down
on
traffic
in
the
future?
For.
Q
For
us,
obviously,
if
they're,
bumper,
poles
or
gooseneck
or
whatever
kind
of
trailers
they
can
unhitch
and
then
go
Costco
is
three
miles
away:
right
down
the
road,
there's
gas
stations
all
up
and
a
long
down,
Cole,
Road
and
and
opportunities
there
within
the
area.
We
don't
want
to
put
a
restaurant,
we're
not
approved
for
a
restaurant
or
anything
like
that,
but
concession
area.
Potentially,
that
could
be
an
opportunity
in
the
clubhouse
space.
What
about
laundromat
a
laundry
mat,
so
we
we
haven't
looked
at
just
based
off
of
our
approvals.
Q
If
we're
approved
for
an
additional
laundry
mat.
If
the
space
provides,
we
want
to
provide
those
those
laundry
units,
it
might
not
be
12
14,
18
spaces,
but
four
to
six
laundry
mats.
If
we're
able
to
put
those
in.
Of
course,
we
would
want
to
do
that
as
well,
because
there's
plenty
in
that
building
to
to
be
able
to
do
so
when
it
was
built
in
the
60s.
A
Okay,
you,
you
indicated,
you
had
310
spaces
scheduled,
and
some
of
them
are
long
term
and
some
of
them
are
short
term.
How
do
you
define
long
term
and
how
many
of
those
would
they
be?
Would
there
be,
and
how
do
you
define
short
term,
how
many.
Q
Of
those
would
there
be
so
long
term
and
short
terms
just
but
decided
by
the
month
stays.
Some
individuals
can
stay
for
three
days
at
a
time
to
up
to
three
to
four
weeks
at
a
time,
and
that
would
be
considered
short
term.
That's
the
the
standard
across
the
board
into
RV
parks
or
in
campgrounds,
or
anything
like
that.
We
haven't
designated
a
specific
amount.
Q
We
are
looking
more
for
that
40
to
60
amount
for
long
term
and
then
the
rest
short-term
stays,
because
obviously
there
are
individuals
that
are
traveling
within
the
state
that
need
places
to
stay
as
well.
So
there
isn't
that
set
number
because
as
we're
going
phase
by
phase,
we
can't
say
oh
we're
doing
a
hundred
units
long
term
because
we're
starting
with
100
units
in
that
first
phase
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
Commissioner,
okay,
all
right
any.
B
Q
So
a
number
of
reasons,
one
of
the
issues
that
had
been
brought
up
is
is
crime
could
potentially
rise
if
it's
longer
than
six
months.
That
was
something
that
was
discussed
off
the
record
with
individuals
of
certain
Sheriff's
departments,
saying
oh,
the
this.
The
fixed
housing
creates
more
of
that
essence
of
decks
being
put
into
place.
Trash
build
up
accumulation
of
of
storage
in
a
facility.
Q
If
you
have
that
standard
of
of
limiting
up
to
a
certain
amount
of
time,
whether
that
be
six
months,
eight
months,
then
having
to
move,
lessens
the
blow
for
the
potential
of
of
trash,
buildup
accumulation
of
goods
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
And
the
answer
your
comment
as
well:
we
we
do
look
at
this
as
an
opportunity
to
help
with
the
housing
issue
as
well.
There
will
be
spaces
designated
to
combat
that
as
well
for
individuals
that
are
coming
across
hard
times.
We
understand
that.
Q
That's
a
big
portion
of
this
and
it's
important
to
us
as
well
that
we
are
a
helping
hand
in
that
as
well
as
just
because
the
space
is
beautiful
and
a
high
standard
doesn't
mean
that
socioeconomic
struggling
individuals
can
also
stay
there.
B
Q
We
didn't
run
a
complete
estimate
with
them,
but
we're
looking
at
somewhere
between
a
million
and
1.2
million
dollars
to
put
in
that
infrastructure
to
pull
the
water
I
believe
that
the
line
was
three
miles
away.
You
might
have
to
verify
for
me
our
Engineers
here,
to
give
you
that
expert
answer.
If
you
would
like
me,
the
yield
to.
Q
B
So,
have
you
taken
into
consideration
that
there
will
be
children
and
and
have
you
contacted
schools
to
see
if
there's
a
school
capacity
so.
Q
Q
D
Q
So
we
we
anticipate
that
at
least
one,
if
not
to
on-site
management,
making
sure
monitoring
the
area
making
sure
it's
clean,
making
sure
it's
up
making
sure
it's
at
the
standards
making
sure
that
we
do
not
have
any
breach
of
contract
in
the
sense
if
trash
is
piling
up.
If
there's
any
kind
of
dogs
or
waste
being
left,
anything
like
that,
there
will
be
Management
on
site,
no
matter
what
it's.
A
A
B
X
X
Go
ahead,
three
minutes
I've
testified
at
the
last
committee:
oh
Richard,
Rockford
I
lived
in
9150
South
Talon
Lane,
which
is
about
a
quarter
mile
to
the
south
of
the
proposed
site.
All
right
go
ahead,
I'm
not
opposed
to
you
know
having
the
a
RV
park
or
a
you
know,
those
kind
of
housings
I
just
don't
know
if
we
have
the
infrastructure
right
now,
where
we're
at
Ada
County
highway
is
talking
about
99
extra
per
day,
I,
don't
think,
there's
probably
20
houses,
that's
serviced
in
that
area.
Right
now.
X
It's
zoned
one
for
10
acres.
The
density
on
this
one
is
77
per
10
acres.
If
my
math
is
close
to
right
anyway,
that's
quite
a
bit
more
Vallejo
Road.
Yes,
it's
narrow,
but
it's
not
very
long,
because
the
dead
ends
to
the
west
and
it
will
not
be
extended
unless
we
put
another
Ridge
across
the
New
York
canal.
So
it's
pretty
well
sitting
there
unless
we're
going
to
spend
a
lot
of
money
doing
that
Holly
Lynn
is
a
windy.
X
Little
narrow,
25
mile
an
hour
Corners
hosted
Lane
that
takes
you
over
to
Pleasant
Valley.
The
last
part
of
it
is
straight
as
an
arrow,
but
the
part
through
the
houses
is
not
a
very
high
capacity.
Road
South
Coal
down
there
is
not
much
wider
than
Vallejo
the
bridge
across
the
New
York
Canal.
There
is
only
two
lanes
plus
they've
got
a
concrete
barrier
for
the
bike.
People
and
a
lot
of
bicycles
ride
out
through
there
and
across
Holly
Land
seems
to
be
a
popular
deal.
X
We
don't
have
the
infrastructure
to
handle
this
many
residents
and
we
are
talking
residents.
I.
Believe
I.
I
think
that
Ada
County
code
needs
to
be
worked
on
a
little
bit
as
far
as
RV
parks
versus
manufactured
home
parks.
X
If
you're
a
manufactured
home
park,
you
have
to
comply
with
the
general
area
density,
and
you
also
have
to
put
in
some
of
these
extra
features.
Laundromats
and
things
like
that.
I
don't
see
those
on
this
plan,
I'm
sure
they
can
be
added,
but
if
we
don't
have
any
kind
of
specifications
and
conditions,
if
you
do
approve
this,
what's
to
prevent
them
to
saying
oh
well,
the
demand
was
there.
I
think
95
percent
need
to
be
long-term.
D
A
Pages
of
individuals
that
want
to
testify
I,
guess,
I'll
just
start
going
through
and
we'll
start
going
through,
I'll
start
with
the
earliest
ones
that
spoke
to
it,
and
it
is
the
first
one
is
heartbeat.
D
Chair,
yes,
and
before
we
get
started,
you
know
obviously
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
people
who
want
to
testify,
and
sometimes
in
these
cases
testimony
gets
duplicative.
So
just
because
you
signed
up
you're
not
required
to
come
up
to
the
podium.
If
you
feel
your
issues
have
already
been
covered,
you
could
simply
stand
up
and
say
whether
you
agree
or
disagree
with
the
proposal.
A
Oh,
that's
right
and
I
would
I
would
ask
you
to
try.
Not
this
wouldn't
necessarily
apply
to
you,
because
there's
only
been
one
in
front
of
you
and
he
took
he's
taken
the
opposite
position.
But,
don't
repeat
everything
is
things
that's
been
said
before
we.
Y
Ahead,
yes,
thank
you:
heartbeel
2875,
East,
loon,
Creek,
Meridian,
Idaho,
I'm,
a
real
estate
broker
and
a
broker
for
15
years.
A
real
estate
agent
for
20
years
now.
Granted
this
RV
park
wouldn't
be
something
that
I
can
go
and
sell.
One
of
these
Lots,
but
I
do
have
several
people
that
cannot
afford
to
live
here
and
a
an
option
for
them
that
is
viable
and
affordable
for
many
of
the
people
that
I
work
with
it'd
be
nice
to
be
able
to
at
least
give
them
an
option
that
is
Affordable.
B
Y
You
know
with
interest
rates
now
they're
going
to
need
more
than
six
months,
but
six
months
helps.
We
don't
know
where
we
will
be
in
the
spring
everyone's
hopeful,
but
but
that
does
buy
them
some
time
to
maybe
improve
their
credit
scores.
Y
Secure.
Better
employment,
maybe
be
in
a
better
position
to
to
purchase
something
in
six
months.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Okay,
Catherine
belnap,.
B
Hi
I
live
at
you'll
need
to
come
up
to
the
podium.
If
you're
going
to
provide
testimony.
Z
Z
I
am
not
saying
that
this
is
not
a
bad
idea.
It's
just
not
a
good
idea
for
this
area.
This
is
an
area
we
see
car
after
car,
going
up
to
the
birds
of
prey
to
see.
What's
going
on
in
the
20
plus
years
that
we've
lived
out
there,
we
have
seen
progress
slowly
inch,
our
Direction.
Z
It
saddens
me
to
see
things
like
this
and
all
of
the
land
being
gobbled
up
for
a
commercial
situation.
The
noise
that
has
increased
out.
There
is
a
lot
from
where
we
live
on
the
hill.
We
can
look
down
and
we
can
see
Vallejo
Road
and
especially
during
the
summer
when
we
sit
out
on
our
patio,
we
see
cars,
not
going
a
speed
limit,
but
flying
up
and
down
that
road,
and,
as
was
previously
mentioned,
we
had
a
woman
that
was
just
recently
hit
out
for
an
evening
stroll
and
killed.
Z
There
is
no
area
for
bikes.
If
you
wanted
to
get
on
a
bike,
I'd
be
taking
my
life
in
my
own
hands.
If
I
did
that,
it's
just
not
the
area
to
be
doing
something
like
this,
the
increase
in
the
traffic
would
be
horrendous,
and
you
know
already:
cars
are
going
back
and
forth
across
Holly
Lynn
for
people
that
work
out
at
the
prison
and
out
at
the
quarries
out
there.
The
traffic
on
Holly
Lynn
has
increased
tremendously.
Z
Since
we've
lived
out
there,
the
traffic
on
Vallejo
has
increased,
because
homes
have
been
built
further
down
out
from
where
the
last
cul-de-sac
is,
and
it's
just
not
an
area
to
do
this
and
I
can't
even
understand
why
you
would
want
to
put
something
out
like
this,
except
for
monetary
reasons,
and
that
I
really
object
to
I
really
do,
and
it
would
just
take
away
the
peace
that
we
have.
You
know
it.
Z
We
see
out
there
from
the
birds
of
prey
the
Falcons
that
fly
around
and
everything
and
you
know
I
agree
with
the
lid.
You
know
it's
bad
for
the
birds,
whether
they
pick
it
up
on
their
own
and
eat
it,
but
I
I,
I
I.
Don't
think
that
is
something
that
should
be
brought
in
to
the
process
of
why
we
need
an
RV
park
out
there
and,
what's
to
say
a
few
years
down
the
road
after
this
RV
park
is
built
that
they
decide
they
want
to
sell
it.
A
A
AA
AA
However,
300
plus
people
on
that
road
just
doesn't
seem
to
work
any
County,
Highway
District
I
have
no
faith
in
I've,
been
out
there
26
years
and
I've
been
blocked,
probably
four
times
in
the
last
15
years
to
where
I've
had
to
reroute
my
transition,
because
they're
doing
Highway
they're
doing
Redevelopment
South
Coal
had
a
water
line
put
in
Lake
Hazel
extension.
Corey
Barton's
got
his
subdivisions
going
in
there's
a
number
of
things
that
happen.
It
keeps
changing.
If
they
do
this,
they
have
to
redo
the
roads.
We're
now
stuck
again.
AA
AA
Once
trans
road
construction
happens
with
all
of
my
neighbors
me,
we
can't
go
anywhere.
So
it's
a
nice
project
but
better
planning
I
asked
last
time
we
were
here
for
impact
studies
of
what
it's
going
to
do
to
all
of
the
stuff,
all
the
road,
all
the
things
that
we're
getting
on
and
what's
going
on,
I've
not
had
a
rebuttal
on
the
impact
studies.
AA
There's
gonna
be
a
ton
of
witnesses
here
talking
about
Transitional
Living
and
how
they
need
this
housing
I
think
is
a
fantastic
project
if
they
can
make
it
happen
in
the
beauty
that
they
presented.
If
that
happens,
wonderful,
how
do
you
keep
that?
How
do
you
make
that
happen
as
far
as
RV
parks
traditionally
they're
in
a
commercial
area
they're?
They
have
the
amenities
they
have
the
traffic,
they
have
the
water,
they
have
the
sewer.
P
AC
You're
the
engineer
yes,
sir
Kurt
Smith
reside
at
2587,
South
Side
Boulevard,
Elba,
Idaho
I'm
the
project
engineer
and
licensed
to
practice
Engineering
in
the
state
of
Idaho.
When
we
started
this
project,
we
knew
there
would
be
certain
hurdles
that
we'd
have
to
to
cross.
So
we
started
approaching
different
agencies
with
with
our
communication
with
them
and
meeting
with
staff.
AC
If,
as
we
proceed,
we'll
be
able
to
meet
the
requirements
that
they
have
laid
before
us,
and
we
don't
have
any
issues
with
the
staff
reporters
presented
as
far
as
the
amenities
or
improvements
that
would
have
to
make,
we
should
be
able
to
do
all
those
things.
If
you
have
any
questions,
I'd
like
to
stand
for
them.
AC
A
AC
Waters
at
Coal
Road,
we
figured
it'd
be
about
a
million
a
million
two.
AC
Yeah
Viola
Viola,
based
on
their
future
planning
in
the
extension
of
coal
Road
that'd,
be
probably
a
major
trunk
line
that
would
head
West,
okay,.
D
You
want
to
dress
septic
or.
AC
We
did
speak
with
health
district.
We
had
a
couple
meetings
with
the
Department
of
Environmental
Quality.
Currently,
with
the
health
district,
we
are
placing
some
dub
stations.
These
will
be
there
for
now
we're
in
the
process
of
doing
some
extra
work
to
have
on-site
septics,
based
on
the
ID
ideq
approval.
AC
We'll
we'll
put
in
the
lines
as
we
do,
the
development,
the
the
the
actual
details
of
the
the
septic
plan,
is
being
worked
out
with
DEQ.
We
have
area
for
that.
We
have
a
contractor,
that's
working
with
DEQ
and
we'll
have
those
put
in
in
place.
A
Okay,
we
Benjamin
Knox.
AD
Hello,
my
name
is
Knox
Benjamin
2601,
South,
Loftus,
Way,
Meridian,
Idaho
and
I
fully
approve
this
project
and
then
and
am
in
support
of
it.
In
2020,
my
wife
and
I
were
married
and
as
a
licensed
real
estate
agent
and
finance
student
was
well
acquainted
with
the
fact
that
I
would
not
be
able
to
afford
a
house
as
a
newlywed
which
brought
up
a
couple
options.
One
is
to
live
with.
AD
My
parents,
of
course,
didn't
want
to
do
that
as
a
newlywed
to
his
to
rent
an
apartment
Apartments
that
my
friends
are
renting
were
in
the
ballpark
of
15
to
1600
a
month
and
considering
those
options.
AD
It
didn't
look
great
and
so
I
brainstormed
and
came
up
with
the
idea
of
buying
a
tiny
house
and
found
a
willing,
a
willing
and
kind
friend
who
let
me
park,
the
tiny
house
on
their
property
and
my
wife
lived.
My
wife
and
I
lived
in
it
for
a
year
during
that
year.
AD
We
did
not
have
to
pay
sixteen
hundred
dollars
a
month
in
rent
over
a
year's
time
that
would
have
you
know
added
up
to
approximately
twenty
thousand
dollars.
We
would
have
paid
over
that
year,
rather
than
losing
twenty
thousand
dollars.
AD
At
the
end
of
that
year,
we
were
able
to
sell
our
tiny
house
at
a
profit
and
then
go
and
use
it
as
a
down
payment
on
a
standard
house
that
year
was
invaluable
to
my
wife
and
I
and
I'm
so
grateful
for
that
time
now
to
be
able
to
own
a
home
and
and
be
on
my
feet
and
for
that
reason
I
think
Parks
such
as
these
are
super
needed
and
necessary
for
those
people
of
my
age.
AD
AE
My
name
is
Parker
Griffin
I
live
on
8073
South,
Covey,
Ridge,
Lane
and
I
am
for
this
development.
One
of
the
things
that
I've
thought
about
recently
is
I
live
right
over
near
this
area.
AE
Is
the
lead
every
time
it
rains
that
pushes
that
potential
contaminant
down
further
and
further
into
the
groundwater
which
we
all
drink
out
of
from
our
wells
over
there
and
so
I
think
that
would
be
very
beneficial
to
have
this
new
development,
which
will
get
rid
of
that
lead,
which
has
already
been
brought
up
before
as
to
why
it
has
negative
impact.
AE
You
had
mentioned
earlier
that
there
you'd
said
there
are
two
categories
of
people
who
would
live
in
these
areas
and
that
would
be
people
who
are
on
the
lower
socioeconomic
ladder
and
retirees
myself
and
multiple
of
my
cousins
have
actually
owned
RVs
and
lived
in
them
in
the
past,
and
it's
been
something
that's
really
nice
for
us
and
a
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
move
out
of
our
homes
from
our
parents
be
able
to
get
married
and
have
this
as
a
short-term
way
for
us
to
be
able
to
save
money
as
I
was
able
to-
and
this
is
another
thing,
so
you
guys
have
mentioned
multiple
times
about
the
10
year.
AE
Old
trailers
is
kind
of
the
idea
of
how
old
the
trailer
should
be
if
you're
going
to
be
living
in
one
at
the
at
this
place.
Well
for
2019
I've
been
able
to
pay
360
a
month
for
my
monthly
payment
on
that.
AE
So
it's
not
extremely
difficult
to
afford
something
like
this,
but
besides
the
matter
so
I
think
that
there
could
be
a
maybe
a
third
category
of
people
who
could
be
living
these
as
well,
and
that's
people
who
are
in
a
transitional
stage
in
their
life
me
and
my
wife
going
and
having
been
going
to
college
and
moving
here
and
needing
a
place
to
stay.
While
we
get
our
feet
under
us,
so
we
can
get
jobs
so
we
could
be
able
to
be
able
to
afford
to
buy
a
home
in
the
future.
AE
The
market
hasn't
been
right
for
us
lately,
as
it's
been
very
expensive
and
also
being
able
to
rent
a
place
has
been
also
very
expensive.
So
that's
been
a
struggle
for
us,
so
we
could
afford
those
things,
but
the
benefit
of
being
able
to
live
in
a
trailer
has
been
been
able
to
save
lots
of
money.
AE
Savings
account
can
go
up
a
lot
faster
when
you're
paying
such
a
small
amount
of
money
to
be
able
to
afford
to
live
rather
than
that
1600
or
so
dollars
for
rent,
and
so
that's
all
I
have
to
say.
Thank
you
all.
Thank
you
thank.
A
You,
okay,
Don
Benjamin,.
A
You
thank
you.
Jacob
Simpson,.
AB
My
name
is
Jacob
Simpson
291,
West
K
bear
Court
I
just
have
a
quick
thought
to
add.
I'm
a
construction
worker
and
I
have
a
lot
of
buddies,
co-workers
living
in
RVs
and
it's
a
great
option
for
construction
workers,
because
when
you're
in
town
working,
Life's
good,
but
eventually
the
work's
going
to
dry
up
and
you're
gonna
have
to
go
on
the
road
somewhere
else,
that's
kind
of
just
how
it
works.
AB
So
it's
really
nice
for
them
to
be
able
to
have
a
place
to
keep
an
RV
here
in
town,
and
it's
really
hard
to
get
one
of
those
these
days.
So
I
completely
support
and
approve
this
RV.
A
W
AG
A
Palmer
Nick
foam;
okay,
we
have
Richard
rockroar.
AH
A
Okay,
Dorothy
Anderson
opposed
okay.
A
AD
D
AI
Is
my
last
name
but
the
magurdio
park
is
a
separate
development.
Our
family
used
to
own
the
property,
but
not
since
1991.,
okay,
so
Luke
mcgirtio,
78,
73,
South,
Cole
Road
I
pose
this
development
because
of
safety
issues.
I
agree
that
we
need
to
brainstorm
about
how
to
solve
affordable
housing.
I
think
it
is
a
problem
that
is
not
going
to
go
away.
AI
My
problem
with
the
safety
is
on
the
picture
I
farm
directly
towards
the
west
and
towards
the
North,
so
I'm,
actively
growing
crops
and
in
production
of
crops
in
agriculture,
I
use
pesticides,
I
use
heavy
equipment,
there's
no
barrier
on
the
west
of
this
property,
except
the
field
fence
from
exposure
against
dust
and
pesticides.
AI
So
I
don't
want
in
my
mind,
people
being
this
close.
This
kind
of
active
agricultural
setting
so
with
heavy
equipment
and
just
in
children
in
general
I
have
a
safety
issue
with
it.
On
the
North
Boundary
we
have
the
north,
the
New
York
canal,
I
irrigate
every
day
in
spring
summer
and
fall.
The
canal
is
very
deep
and
I'm
nervous
about
any
potential
person
or
child
getting
in
the
canal.
Oh,
that
is
all
I
have
to
say.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank.
Z
A
Right
Farm
Act
have
any
impact
on
your
on
your
activities
or.
AI
Yes,
I
I
have
the
right
to
farm
it.
Where
you
get
a
new
sticky
situation,
is
liability,
so
I
have
to
carry
a
certain
amount
of
liability
as
a
producer.
AI
But
if
you
have
two
sides
to
the
story,
where
say,
I
sprayed
a
field
and
I
was
Reckless
and
someone
is
exposed.
Well,
okay,
where
is
the
evidence
that
I
was
Reckless?
Okay
was
the
wind
blowing
was
I
applying
it
in
a
reckless
manner.
AI
A
D
Okay,
thank
you,
I'll.
Ask
you
a
question:
what
what
kind
of
odors
or
noise
does
your
farm
operation
generate.
AI
Well,
I
mean
we
have
cattle,
my
family
has
cattle,
so
there
is
manure
involved,
then
heavy
this
noise
of
heavy
equipment,
sometimes
late
at
night,
when
you're
trying
to
get
done
before
the
weather.
The
storm
comes
so
mainly
just
heavy
equipment,
and
then
you
know
animal
or
how
many
cattle
do
you
have?
I
can't
disclose
the
number
of
cattle,
but
it's
a
substantial
number
yeah.
AI
AI
Yes
and
I
say
you
know
I'm
sorry
but
I've
been
here
for
four
generations,
but
I
can't
turn
off
the
lights
and
walk
off.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right.
AJ
Jesse
Brown
I
live
at
1614,
North,
bisque,
Avenue
and
I
am
in
support
of
this
project
as
a
young,
adult
I
was
living
in
an
apartment
before
I
could
afford
a
house
and
that
price
of
my
apartment
doubled
in
price
in
the
last
couple
years.
So
I
was
paying
more
for
a
one
bedroom
one
bath
apartment
than
I.
Do
now
for
the
mortgage
of
my
house,
which
luckily
I
bought
four
years
ago
before
it
skyrocketed
so
had
I
not
been
lucky
enough
to
buy
that
house
four
years
ago.
AJ
A
You,
okay,
Rob
Nash,.
AK
Robert
nash10365
West,
Highlander,
Road,
Boise,
Idaho
83709,
so
I
am
in
support
of
this
project.
I
am
a
developer
in
this
area
and
one
of
the
comments
that's
been
made
a
lot
is
you
know?
Maybe
this
isn't
the
right
location,
which
I
would
argue,
I
think
this
is
a
great
location
to
be
able
to
go,
purchase
commercial
land
and
do
an
RV
park
if
you're
paying
commercial
land
prices
would
put
this
project
approximately
at
24
million
dollars.
AK
AK
You
know
for
people
and
she's
in
school
and
stuff
we're
having
to
help
her
out
because
otherwise
you
can't
afford
to
live
here.
The
and
I
just
think
it.
You
know
it
I'm
grateful,
there's
commissions
that
can
address
the
needs
of
the
people.
I
grew
up
in
that
area.
My
wife
grew
up
on
a
dairy
farm
right
next
to
mergerdio
right.
What
used
to
be
Lake
hazelbow?
They
used
to
roll
around
into
things,
I
bought
out
there
years
ago.
AK
Five
acres,
no
one
was
around
me,
but
you
know
you're
talking
the
needs
of
a
some
neighbors
versus
the
needs
of
many
individuals,
and
you
know
this
is
one
of
many
projects.
You
know
improvements.
Infrastructure
are
Developer
driven
by
and
large.
They
improve
this
whole
thing
on
the
traffic.
There's
that
whole
area
is
eventually
going
to
get
developed
out.
The
traffic's
okay
I
mean
it's
basically,
I
want
to
be
the
last
one
in
Idaho
and
I
and
I
Want,
My,
Views
and
I
want
the
whole
state
to
myself.
It's
just
not
a
reality.
AK
I
wish
I
didn't
have
neighbors.
We
had
we're
in
a
five
acre
subdivision.
You
know
there's
people
all
around,
but
my
main
point
is
practically
speaking:
nobody
can
go
put
in
RV
parks
if
you're
going
to
pay
commercial
prices,
you
know
period
you're,
you're
talking
10
times
the
amount
of
investment
and
it's
and
it's
just
simply
not
worth
it.
I
think
this
is
a
great
location.
AK
E
Bart
Griffin
3100
top
Street
Boise
47
years
ago,
I
was
born
in
St
Luke's.
We
lived
in
Taft
and
back
in
those
days
with
75
000
people
in
the
area,
I
drove
to
Capitol
high
school,
and
there
used
to
be
farms
and
Fields
everywhere,
Everything
Changes
at
the
end
of
our
street.
Because
of
change
in
society,
they
put
a
halfway
house.
E
There
believe
me
that
wasn't
the
thing
that
we
want
to
have
happen,
but
it
was
part
of
the
progress
and
development
of
Life
Jimmy,
Jackson
and
Jimmy
John's
lived
on
the
corner
with
his
little
baby
and
that's
just
what
we
had
to
deal
with,
and
what
I'm
seeing
that
they're
proposing
is
to
meet
all
the
needs
and
do
a
beautiful
development.
It's
a
development
that
fits
the
needs
of
the
city
and
us
being
Local
Natives.
That's
what
we
want
to
see.
E
A
You
Andre
darzio.
AL
Jarazio
4450
West
Saddle,
Ridge,
Drive,
Nampa,
Idaho,
83687
and
I'm
in
favor
of
it
Justin
I've
known
Justin
for
17
years,
and
he's
also
apartment
partner
in
some
development
that
we've
done
but
I
have
another
take
on
it.
I've
been
a
mortgage,
Banker
I
know
my
own
mortgage
company
for
25
years
and
so
the
need
of
with
us
into
mortgage
company.
Sometimes
people
aren't
quite
there
in
getting
approved
for
a
home,
and
so
they
need
traditional
housing
or
temporary
housing.
AL
AL
Also
with
the
affordable
housing.
I
know,
Boise
the
average
sales
price
as
of
November
2022,
is
about
500.
000
I
think
it's
497
000.
on
a
first
time
home
buyer
down
payment
assistance
with
Idaho
housing.
That
payment
would
be
forty
four
hundred
dollars
a
month
for
a
home,
even
if
you're
in
the
350
range,
which
there
is
not
much
in
Boise
Idaho
that'd,
be
a
3
500
payment
for
a
first-time
homebuyer
that
is
offered
by
Idaho
Housing.
AL
So
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
to
attention
that
you
know
there
is
a
need
out
there,
even
with
the
with
people
that
are
first-time
homebuyers
and
that
are
looking
for
getting
into
a
home.
Thank
you,
okay.
Thank
you.
AM
Lori
rathjen
live
at
9227,
South,
Talon
Lane,
just
south
of
the
proposed
property.
I
really
have
questions
for
the
griffins
or
the
commission,
but
the
first
one
being
if
this
is
rezoned
to
commercial.
How
is
that
going
to
affect
the
area
overall?
I?
Don't
that
that's
a
concern
to
me,
because
it's
Rural
and
going
to
commercial,
that's
a
big
huge
change
for
that
area.
So
I
would
like
to
know
the
answer
that
the
second
question
I
have
is.
If
this
doesn't
go
in
this
RV
park,
what
will
go?
AM
You
know
what
will
be
approved
to
go
on
that
site
or
what
is
the
Griffin's
Plan
B
I
would
like
to
know
that
and
what
was
the
final?
If,
if
this
does
go
forward,
how
much
input
will
the
residents
have
in
what
has
happened?
I
mean
we've
been
told
how
wide
the
road
will
be,
but
not
what
else
will
there
be
Security?
Will
there
be
lighting?
Will
there
be
bike
lanes
and
and
Talon
Lane
isn't
really
affected
by
this?
AM
AM
AO
Lou
mcgurio
73
73
South,
Maple
Grove,
as
many
of
you
know,
we've
been
out
there,
our
family
since
1917.
AO
AO
AO
You
know
my
concern,
obviously,
is
you
know
the
sewer?
You
know
it's
going
to
fall.
That
way.
You
know.
I
know
they
got
dump
stations
and
and
whatever,
but
and
I
own
the
property.
AO
There's
Farm
property
on
four
sides
of
this
I
own
to
the
South,
to
the
West
in
all
the
property
to
the
North
and
then
there's
another
person
that
owns
the
property
to
the
east.
Now
the
Vallejo
is
a
nightmare
because
it
it's
it,
it's
Elevate,
it's
a
lot
of
elevation
chains
and
swells,
and
so
that
that's
a
big
problem.
AO
The
other
deal
is
I
own,
the
property
to
the
South
right
up
to
the
entrance
to
this
property
that
that's
another
problem,
and
so
that's
something
that's
got
to
be
looked
at
I'm,
not
against
these
RV
parks.
I
understand
the
housing
better
than
anybody.
AO
You
know
I
farmed,
the
magurdio
park
property.
We
don't
own
it.
You
know
the
mcgirtio's,
my
uncle
stole
it
back
in
96,
but
I
still
farm
that
it's
it's
challenging.
Very,
it's
all
challenging
anymore.
The
liability
is
challenging.
AO
I
would
just
say
that
I
don't
think
it's
conducive
to
the
area.
This
is
a
rule.
Setting
out
there
on
Vallejo
I
mean
no
Services
out
there.
You've
only
got
one
way
coming
in
from
Cole
Road
across
Vallejo
Vallejo,
ands.
It's
got
to
come
in
and
out
all
that.
You
know
you
can't
and
then
there's
the
other
out
to
through
Holly
Lynn,
which
is
a
windy
road
out
that
way
too,
and
so
I
strongly
oppose
this
strongly
oppose
this
I.
AO
B
S
I
could
have
said
that,
right
after
me,
jeez,
okay,
I
promise
not
to
push
too
hard
on
it,
but
I
just
want
to
touch
back
on
the
base
of
what
commissioner
Ryan
Davidson
said
in
the
beginning.
I
want
to
hit
some
facts
about
the
national,
low-income
housing
Coalition
of
Idaho.
This
data
was
pulled
from
this
year
in
2022.,
minimum
wage
in
Idaho
is
7.25,
since
2009.
inflation
rates
are
at
their
highest
since
2008.
S
39
of
these
citizens
fall
under
the
50
of
the
average
medium
income
amount
of
991
a
month
in
income
that
is
73
000
citizens
that
spend
half
their
paycheck
every
month
on
rent
now
I'm
willing
to
bet
the
hair
on
my
blonde
head
that
at
least
39
of
the
people
in
this
room
right
now
know
someone
or
are
directly
connected
to
someone
that
can
barely
afford
their
rent
and
or
sharing
a
room
with
three
or
other
people
or
are
living
with
their
parents
right
now,
because
they
cannot
afford
to
live
in
a
stable
household
that
they
can
financially
afford.
S
I
own
two
businesses
I
have
three
other
additional
business.
Partnerships
I
have
a
college
degree
in
digital
marketing,
serve
two
years
of
humanitarian
Services
overseas
and
learn
another
language.
I'm
a
member
of
Boise
young
professionals
and
many
other
groups
Idaho
has
to
offer.
In
fact,
every
single
one
of
my
neighbors
in
my
park
at
the
moment
are
well
mannered
and
they're,
hard-working
individuals
as
well.
I
myself
currently
reside
in
an
RV
I'm
your
modern
day,
trailer
trash,
my
2021
RV,
was
purchased
for
twenty
seven
thousand
dollars.
That's
450
dollars
a
month.
S
It
is
a
very
nice
setup.
I
can
afford
to
live
in
it
I'm
26
years
old
and
it's
a
stepping
stone
to
something
greater.
It's
not
a
permanent
residence.
It's
not
something
I
plan
on
living
in
for
the
rest
of
my
life,
but
I'm
not
emotionally
stable
enough
to
move
back
in
with
my
parents
and
I'm,
not
financially
stable
enough
I'm,
not
financially
stable
enough
to
move
out
into
a
home
for
myself,
so
I
have
an
RV
right
now.
S
You
know,
I'd
give
my
left
leg
to
live
in
any
of
these
people's
positions
right
now,
where
they
have
a
home
where
they
can
be
in
a
neighborhood,
and
they
can
wake
up
at
8
30
in
the
morning
and
their
current
problem
right
now
is
getting
a
bottleneck
at
the
end
of
their
neighborhood,
with
their
neighbor
that
they're
leaving
for
work
for
at
8
30
in
the
morning.
I
live
in
a
trailer
at
the
moment,
because
it's
my
only
option
and
like
I,
said
it's
a
stepping
stone.
S
It's
not
a
permanent
thing
that
I
plan
on
being
in
just
a
few
things.
I
want
to
address.
There's
sound
complaints
about
trafficking
people,
but
no
complaints
about
the
shotguns
being
fired
daily
before
that's
not
going
on
anymore.
There's
access,
the
access
to
water
is
drying
up
without
the
park,
and
it
will
fund
it.
All.
The
residents
in
this
area
are
about
to
pay
heavy
for
that
access
soon.
If
Viola
doesn't
step
in
the
park
will
do
that
accidents
occurred
on
the
roadway
it's
about
to
become
safer.
S
The
New
York
Canal
is
a
concern
with
the
park
I'm
wrapping
up
right
now.
The
New
York
Canal
is
a
concern
with
the
park,
but
we're
going
to
turn
a
blind
eye
to
the
guy
that
came
up
here
with
a
thousand
cows
that
are
pushing
out
manure
and
spraying
pesticides.
Only
a
couple
yards
away
from
that
lead
is
going
to
be
cleaned
up
and
the
local
sheriff
backs
it.
This
project
is
a
no-brainer
and
Commissioners,
obviously
I
strongly
approve
of
this
project.
Thank.
S
AP
Jay
Benjamin
2241,
West,
White,
Law,
Drive,
I,
also
own
property.
That
is
almost
exactly
right
across
the
road
and
I'm
down.
Probably
a
couple
hundred
yards
from
the
property
me
and
my
wife
brought
a
chunk
of
property
there
that's
directly
in
the
Impact
Zone,
as
you
mentioned
before,
it's
been
brought
up,
it's
been
beat
to
a
pulp,
but
it's
the
reason
for
the
RV
park
is
to
create
affordable
housing.
AP
Think
that
also,
if
we
look,
you
know
from
a
business
aspect
into
accounting,
I
think
it
was
Rob
Nash
that
brought
up
to
where,
if
you
were
to
buy
a
commercial
chunk
of
property
at
commercial
rates
and
then
try
and
turn
it
into
a
4
housing
or
an
RV
park,
it
would
never
pencil
the
mass
been
done
several
times.
You
can't
purchase
at
commercial
rates
and
then,
on
top
of
that,
try
and
create
affordable
housing.
It
doesn't
work,
it
doesn't
compute.
AP
That's
part
of
the
reason
why
this
is
such
a
such
a
great
opportunity
is
there's
this
chunk
of
land
that
is
currently
being
used
as
commercial
right
now
operated
as
commercial.
That
is
very
noisy,
very
messy,
very
bad
on
our
environment
that
can
be
taken
away
and
operated
as
an
RV,
Resort
I
think
this
would
be
a
far
better
fit
for
the
trunk
of
property.
I
get
I,
hear
the
reasons
against
it,
not
in
my
backyard.
Nobody
wants
growth.
However.
AP
I
would
strongly
oppose
that
in
saying
that
the
hard-working
American
that
can't
quite
make
ends
meet
should
take
the
precedence
over
that
putting
a
roof
over
people's
heads.
I.
Think
you
know
know
as
this
being
this
Christmas
season,
what
what
a
great
opportunity
that
we
have,
that
the
Griffins
have
presented
to
be
able
to
put
that
many
more
people
under
a
roof.
AP
I
talked
to
a
lady
in
line
at
the
at
the
post
office.
Just
yesterday
has
a
husband
overseas
in
the
military
can't
afford
a
place
to
stay.
Has
two
kids
Nursing
degree
can't
afford
a
place
to
stay.
This
would
provide
an
awesome
opportunity
for
her
I
see
the
need.
I
know
that
it's
there
I
personally,
have
it
in
my
family
with
a
couple
Brothers,
and
hopefully
that's
our
sign
that
this
is
a
big
issue.
T
AQ
A
big
daycare
wanted
to
go
in
in
our
neighborhood
and
all
the
neighbors
were
upset
and,
of
course,
the
petitions
were
flying
around
and
I
certainly
signed.
My
name
and
my
husband
signed
his
name
because
we
did
not
want
this
big
commercial
daycare
to
go
in.
It
would
increase
noise,
it
would
increase
Tech
traffic.
AQ
AQ
AR
So
the
first
and
the
biggest
thing
for
me
is
the
water
I
had
a
scare
earlier
this
year
thought
my
well
dried
up
got
quotes
when
your
wells
are
400
feet,
deep,
it's
at
100
and
some
bucks
a
foot,
it's
not
cheap
to
replace
so
having
an
option
that
I
could
be
able
to
pull
from
this
water
in
the
future
would
be
awesome
instead
of
having
to
Fork
out
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
Plus
for
a
new
well
and
then
also
with
that
is
the
fire
suppression.
AR
I
live
on
the
hillside,
where
it
almost
directly
above
my
house,
a
couple
hundred
yards
up
almost
came
down
on
the
fourth
of
July
I
was
out
of
town
I've
got
horses,
I've
got
dogs
and
I.
Wasn't
there
to
you
know,
be
able
to
pull
them
away?
That's
scary:
when
I
was
five
hours
away
and
here
that
there's
a
fire
coming,
it's
scary,
so
being
able
to
have
fire
hydrants
in
the
nearby
area
for
them
to
be
able
to
fight
that
would
make
me
feel
safer
personally.
AR
Living
on
that
Hillside
other
is
safer
roads
having
I
know,
you've
heard
this
a
hundred
times,
but
their
roads
don't
really
have
a
shoulder
right
now,
they're
24
feet
wide
and
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
times
I'm
going
down
the
road
and
everybody
just
kind
of
drives
in
the
center,
and
you
know
you're
kind
of
going
to
the
side
to
move
out
of
the
way
so
being
able
to
have
a
30-foot
road
with
actual
lines,
and
hopefully
a
speed,
limit,
sign
and
different.
AR
You
know
signage
and
stuff
like
that
and
then
an
actual
shoulder
that
you
can
take
your
dog
on
a
walk
or
ride
your
bicycle
on
those
are
things
that
I
think
would
improve
my
life
that
I
could
live
with
the
little
increase
of
traffic
that
it's
going
to
bring
I.
Also,
it's
been
talked
about.
Services
I,
don't
have
a
problem
getting
to
the
grocery
store.
It's
not
a
few
miles
down
the
road
to
the
grocery
store.
AR
Every
single
time,
I
burn,
weeds
I
can
tell
you
the
fire
department's
at
my
house
within
five
minutes
every,
when
my
best
friend's
mom
was
hit
by
a
car
on
that
road,
the
fire
department
and
the
ambulance.
Everybody
was
there
very
quickly.
So
when
we're
talking
about
Services
I
think
that
we're
not
any
further
than
if
you
look
on
that
map
there,
you
see
houses
communities,
you
know,
there's
Services
there
they're
not
far
from
us,
they're
Stones
throw
away,
and
then,
let's
see,
I,
think
that's
about
all
the
time.
AR
AS
P
Good
evening,
Mr,
commissioner
members
of
the
commission,
I,
won't
take
much
of
your
time
today.
I
won't
belabor
the
point
any
further,
but
I've
sat
here
for
two
and
a
half
hours
on
a
school
night.
The
final
exams
tomorrow
morning
just
testify
today
for
one
reason,
and
that's
because
I'm
passionate
about
this
I'm
part
of
the
organization
that
speaks
for
the
30
000
students
at
Boise,
State,
our
student
government
and
one
of
the
things
I
find
very
often
is.
P
We
do
not
have
affordable
housing
for
our
students
that
have
specific
programs
they're
only
here
for
a
short
period
of
time.
Yes,
we
offer
four-year
college
degrees.
Yes,
we
also
offer
welding
certificates.
These
students
are
not
going
to
be
on
campus
for
very
long.
They
don't
want
to
pay
for
expensive
housing
for
a
long
period
of
time.
They
want
short,
affordable
housing.
That's
exactly
what
this
is.
They
shouldn't
have
to
try
to
stay
in
the
dorms,
but
the
dorms
cost
more
than
tuition
for
in-state
students
to
try
to
get
their
their
certificates
through.
P
P
Students
need
the
ability
to
live
close
to
their
school,
to
be
able
to
effectively
complete
their
education,
and
they
shouldn't
have
to
go
into
debt.
To
do
this.
This
program
gives
them
the
ability
to
do
that
so
I'm
strongly
in
support
of
this
and
I
hope
you
all
are
too.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Kenzie
Benjamin.
AT
My
name's
Mackenzie
Benjamin
I
live
at
2241
West
Whitelaw
Drive
Meridian,
but
we
purchased
land
near
this
property
to
build
a
house
that
I
am
for
this
project.
I
own
a
tanning
business
and
one
of
the
biggest
things
I,
see
and
hear
from
my
clients
is
that
the
housing
is
not
affordable
in
Idaho.
This
project
would
help
fix
that
and
give
people
an
affordable,
affordable
place
to
live.
Thank
you.
AU
Q
AU
AV
AV
I,
don't
think
it
needs
to
be
pressed
how
important
the
projects
are,
but
I
would
hope
that
we
can
emphasize
how
fortunate
the
city
could
or
the
county
could
be
sorry
to
have
this
project
put
into
place,
as
rather
than
impacting
many
hundreds
or
potentially
thousands
of
residences
in
the
Impact
Zone
there's,
maybe
tens
or
a
small
hundred,
as
well
as
the
opportunity
to
provide
services
like
water
to
those
homes
that
otherwise
could
be
inaccessible
if
Wells
continue
or
the
aquifer
continues
to
drop
farther
down
or
water
accessibility
could
be
an
issue
and
that
cost
for
them
to
be
put
back
on
these
homeowners
rather
than
on
the
developers
Additionally
the
fire
suppression
capabilities
that
would
be
put
in
place.
AV
AV
Not
this
is
just
my
awareness
of
it,
so
I
feel
like
there's.
There's
the
fire
risk
already
that
this
empty
lot
could
could
set
fire
or
fire
nearby
and
then
there's
homes
uphill.
So
the
fire
suppression
could
be
helpful
there.
AV
Additionally,
they'll
clean
up
as
well
I
think
if
we're
concerned
about
the
contamination
of
the
New
York
Canal,
there's
no
Swip
in
place
for
ground.
That's
just
sitting
there,
so
any
water
or
heavy
rains
is
already
going
to
cause
runoff
towards
the
canal.
The
developers
are
proposing
to
clean
that
up
to
the
to
the
standards
of
the
Department
of
Environmental,
Quality
and
I.
AV
Think
that's
a
significant
thing
that
otherwise
in
place
the
way
it
is
now
it's
a
shooting
range
with
lead
and
I
think
also
this
the
city
staff's
concerns
about
it
not
being
zoned
commercial,
considering
it's
currently
a
paid
paid
access,
shooting
range,
I
think
to
the
average
citizen,
that's
more
of
a
technicality
as
you'd
probably
consider
that
commercial
use
already
so
I.
Think.
Overall,
this
the
county
has
an
opportunity
to
reduce
the
impact
of
building
a
project
like
this.
AV
AS
AS
AS
AS
There
will
be
no
negative
impact
to
the
agriculture
with
this
project
going
in
there
and
I
think
that
the
areas
around
eventually
that
dairy
or
that
cow,
barn
or
whatever
it
is
there,
is
going
to
be
eaten
up.
AS
He
may
not
be
alive
when
it
happens,
but
it
will
be
gone
at
some
point
because
it's
right
next
to
a
subdivision
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
build
projects
where
the
agriculture
land
is
not
eaten
up,
where
we
don't
destroy
the
ability,
because
I
guarantee
you,
you
will
never
raise
a
bushel
of
wheat
on
an
asphalt,
driveway
I
stand.
Thank.
AW
What
I
do
know
is
that
most
of
the
people
that
are
in
favor
of
this
project
do
not
live
anywhere
near
the
project.
Many
of
them
have
no
first-hand
knowledge
of
what
the
property
looks
like
or
the
Ingress
and
egress
from
the
property.
I
have
some
challenges
with
achd
traffic
study.
In
my
research,
the
thousand
plus
trips
a
day
sounds
about
right,
but
to
peak
hour.
Travel
is
about
151.,
so
Friday
PM
is
about
151
per
hour
on
a
dead
end
Road
and
a
T
intersection.
AW
The
proposals
were
for
short-term
housing.
People
are
talking
about
long-term
housing,
helping
people
save
money,
600
lot
fee,
plus
a
300
and
some
dollar
RV
payment
does
not
equal
cheap
housing
and
it's
not
a
long-term
solution.
If
you're
going
to
limit
six
months,
so
there's
nothing
in
the
code
or
the
proposal
that
would
limit
the
amount
of
time
somebody
stays
there.
AW
AW
AW
There
are
no
other
services,
close
there's,
no
freeway
access,
there's
no
Services,
there's
no
recreational
activity,
Mountain
View
High
School
is
10
miles
away.
So
what
we're
talking
about
is
massive
amounts
of
traffic.
That's
already
been
talked
about,
but
I
think
the
study
is
a
little
bit
off.
We
also
have
heard
about
groundwater
contamination.
If
that's
an
issue,
we
shouldn't
be
looking
to
approve
an
RV
park
to
remediate
that
and
I'd
like
to
ask
the
commission
to
get
the
EQ
to
look
into
that.
V
A
lot
of
what
has
been
addressed
is
what
I
wanted
to
talk
about
about
location,
as
he
mentioned,
I'm
very
familiar
with
the
location,
because
I
do
have
family
that
lives
less
than
a
half
mile
away
from
there.
I
also
used
to
live
in
an
apartment
that
was
less
than
a
mile
away
from
there
when
I
used
to
live
there.
Five
years
ago
my
rent
was
900,
which
was
affordable
housing.
Now
that
same
apartment,
my
friend
lives.
There
is
a
thousand
eight
hundred
dollars
in
that
location
within
them
and
half
mile
away
from
there.
V
So
the
pricing
over
there
is
way
more
than
the
900
that
potentially
people
would
be
living
there
at
it
is
necessary.
I
work,
a
full-time
job.
My
husband
works,
a
full-time
job.
Luckily
we
were
able
to
get
into
a
home
four
years
ago
now,
but
ultimately,
that's
just
not
not
an
option
for
people
right
now,
and
so
this
short
term
of
just
being
able
to
save
up
is
super
helpful.
The
grocery
stores
are
very
close.
I
live
in
Kuna
right
now.
V
We
have
trailers
parked
all
long
kuna,
Road,
Swan,
Falls
Road,
there's
garbage
everywhere.
Swan
Falls
used
to
be
really
beautiful,
place,
I'm
a
photographer,
so
I
take
pictures
over
there
and
right
now,
there's
just
trash.
There's
mattresses.
People
are
living
out
in
these
places,
no
matter
what
we
might
as
well
give
them
the
right
sanitation
or
we're
going
to
have
a
problem
like
San
Francisco,
where
we're
overrun
with
a
bunch
of
homelessness.
V
A
You
John
Ron
Ron
Ralph,.
AG
AG
AG
I'm
John
Rob
at
7707,
West,
Vallejo
I,
live
directly
across
this
place
that
they're
proposing
for
the
RV
park
and
I
oppose
this
on
all
the
reasons
that
we're
given
and
also
it's
a
great
idea
for
this
housing
but
wrong
location.
Thank.
A
AX
Name
is
Olivia
Stark
I
live
at
2878,
East,
Falcon,
Drive,
Meridian
Idaho,
just
the
stone
store
from
this
guy
a
couple
miles
away.
I
just
want
you
guys
to
know
that
I
support
this
project
for
multiple
reasons.
Most
of
them
have
already
been
spoken
about
tonight.
I'm,
a
young
person
living
in
state
of
Idaho
I,
was
born
and
raised
here
in
the
South
part
of
Meridian
and
I
can't
afford
to
live
here
anymore.
I
have
four
roommates.
AX
We
are
living
in
a
house
and
it's
only
because
my
best
friend's
mom
died
a
couple
years
ago.
We
got
really
lucky
in
the
situation
that
I'm
in
so
having
a
place
close
enough
to
my
work.
My
boyfriend
and
I
both
work
50
hours
a
week,
trying
to
keep
a
roof
overhead
and
make
sure
that
our
cars
are
paid
for
so
I
just
want
you
guys
to
know
that
I
support
this.
It's
also
really
really
refreshing
to
have
a
place
that
has
an
option
for
dogs
and
people
that
have
dogs
because
living
in
an
apartment.
AX
AF
Thank
you,
Trina
Neto,
2434,
West,
King,
Road,
Kuna,
Idaho,
83634
I
have
been
a
real
estate
agent
and
a
real
estate
property
manager
for
22
years
I've
been
managing
black
dogs
clay,
since
the
Griffins
purchased.
The
property
and
I
can
tell
you
that
the
property
has
been
zoned,
not
zoned
commercial,
but
has
been
used
as
commercial.
AF
All
of
the
utility
companies
when
I
had
to
get
the
utilities
switched
over
into
our
company
name,
all
had
commercial
accounts,
Ada
County
trash
services
did
not
even
require
a
trash
can
be
at
the
property
because
it
is
considered
commercial
property.
So
just
something
that
I
noted
was
that
the
property
being
used
for
55
years
as
commercial
property.
AF
It
doesn't
change
the
use
by
rezoning
this
as
commercial.
If
anything,
it
gives
the
commission,
or
at
least
the
Ada
County
Planning
and
Zoning
the
opportunity
to
be
in
control
of
this
project.
It
also
allows
for
the
gun
range
to
no
longer
be
there.
This
has
been
a
property
that
has
been
under
the
control
of
preview.
What
do
you
call
grandfathered
in,
and
so
the
county
does
not
have
control
over
it.
AF
It's
not
like
the
county
can
come
back
in
and
say
this
is
for
residential
use
only
that
is
not
available
to
it
because
of
this
Grandfather
Clause.
This
allows
the
the
property
to
be
used,
as
as
it
has
been
for
the
last
55
years.
It
also
allows
for
the
property
to
be
able
to
use
for
increased
value,
for
the
Neighbors
versus
being
a
gun
range
and
also
for
cleaning
up
the
lead
to
avoid
any
more
damage
to
the
birds
of
prey
area,
and
that
is
all
I
have
to
say.
AC
A
Oh
okay,
Caitlin
Austin.
AY
Hi
there,
my
name
is
Caitlin
Austin
I
live
on
4159
East
Esperanto
Street
in
Meridian,
83642
I,
just
kind
of
wanted
to
add
on
the
noise
of
it
being
a
gun
range
I
worked
for
cbh
homes
for
seven
years,
their
master
plan
Community,
is
off
of
Cole
and
like
Hazel,
and
we
had
a
lot
of
people
back
out
of
sales
due
to
the
gun
range
being
so
noisy
a
lot
of
people
in
the
area.
Just
didn't
like
the
noise,
so
I
approved
this
project.
You
know
a
change
of
pace
having
something
else.
W
Those
are
wet
eggs,
hi,
Marley,
Reynolds
and
I've
lived
on
this
7685
Vallejo
Road
for
last
47
years,
and
the
road
was
a
gravel
barely
when
I
moved
there
and
we
got
it
built
up
and
and
the
homeowners
along
that
had
to
pay
to
have
it
paved
and
they
make
this
look
like
it's
all
level
ground.
Like
Mr
mcgirtio
said
this
is
Hillis
and
and
it's
covered
with
lead
I
was
there
the
last
time
they
cleaned
this
up
and
they
brought
in
a
gold
mine
in
dredge,
and
they
had
tons
of
this
in
them.
W
Big
bags
sitting
out
there,
and
now
it's
the
same
as
it
was,
it
would
have
to
be
cleaned
up
or
the
kids
would
be
playing
and
lead
out
there,
and
it's
just
not
a
place
for
to
put
a
trailer
park
and
it's
the
road
could
not
handle
it
tonight.
Coming
in
the
traffic
was
backed
up
from
the
freeway
to
passed,
the
Lake
Hazel
Road.
It
was
backed
up
that
far
and
from
there
on
out
to
the
end
it
just
barely
a
two-lane
road
and
so
I
am
strictly
against
it.
W
H
O
Joseph
private
9251,
South,
Talon
Lane
lived
there
23-year
zone
property
since
69
right
across
from
the
development
here.
I
really
feel
for
this
farmer
that
came
up.
He
was
there
first
and
I
know
you're
getting
complaints
about
smell
and
maybe
flies
and
stuff
like
that,
but
listen
to
what
he
has
to
say,
especially
listen
to
the
guys
that
are
talking
about
Talon
Lane.
Being
it's
like
this
okay
we've
got
joggers
we've
got
dog
walkers
we've
got
bicyclists
and
stuff
like
that.
O
AZ
BA
So
Mr
chairman
Commissioners
I,
live
at
4062,
West
Farm
View,
just
to
make
clear
I
don't
represent
anybody
here.
I
just
support
the
project.
I
I
didn't
know
about
the
RV
crisis.
Until
a
friend
of
mine
called
me,
who's
getting
divorced
and
his
wife
got
the
house,
he
got
the
RV
and-
and
he
said
you
know
anybody
with
land.
So
I
called
all
my
friends
that
had
big
patches
of
land
and
they
said
no,
the
sheriff
comes
out
and
kicks
people
off
every
time.
BA
We
do
it,
and
so
the
the
it's
a
little
bit
for
the
for
the
county
to
take
a
position
against
putting
a
parking
like
this
and
also
the
sheriff's
going
out
and
essentially
a
victim
I
guess
these
RVs,
who
are
parked
behind
people's
houses.
I
think,
is
a
contrary
position
and
and
I
don't
one
of
the
two
has
to
give
either
either
get
rid
of
the
the
rules
that
you
can't
have
an
RV
behind
people's
houses
or
start
approving
projects
like
this
is
kind
of
what
I.
BA
What
I
personally
think
I
went
through
on
on
the
website
and
downloaded
the
your
proposed.
The
draft
findings
that
that
planning
zoning
did
their
fantastic
over
Planning
and
Zoning.
They
a
couple
things
stuck
out
to
me
goal
2.2
and
2.4
were
weighing
against
this
project
and
I.
Don't
think.
That's
a
really
fair
assessment.
BA
Gold
2.2
is
that
that
to
direct
urban
Urban
Development
into
cities
in
into
already
developed
areas,
and
that's
the
goal
one
of
the
goals
when
the
county
approves
things,
but,
as
we've
heard,
that's
really
implausible
for
something
like
this.
It's
too
expensive
I
looked
at
this
project
I
before
the
Griffins
bought
it
I
walked
it
with
it
with
an
engineer
to
see
what
could
be
done
with
it,
and
it
was
really
it's
a
challenging
piece
of
property
and
what
they've
come
up
with
is
really
good,
but
I.
BA
Don't
think
that
that
that
this
to
direct
this
towards
City
that
goal
shouldn't
weigh
against
it,
because
there's
nothing
in
the
city
available
for
this
and
the
staff's
recommendations
were
the
the
oh.
This
is
great,
but
a
site
closer
to
the
city
would
be
better
right
again.
It's
not.
There
isn't
anything
feasible
at
the
planning
and
Zodi
meeting
one
of
the
the
people
up
on
the
up
in
the
board
said.
We
don't
need
one
project
like
this.
BA
We
need
10
projects
like
this,
but
the
zoning
doesn't
permit
it
and
so
for
for
I
think
that
a
hard
look
needs
to
be
taken
at
the
zoning
to
approve
stuff.
That's
not.
This
is
more
of
a
residential
project.
Anyway,
it's
not
commercial,
but
commercial
is
the
only
technical
qualifier
for
for
an
RV
park,
the
other,
the
other
one
that
sticks
out
to
me
is
gold
2.4
and
that's
to
maintain
and
protect
the
character
of
the
land.
BA
Well-
and
this
is
rangeland
well,
this
isn't
rangeland,
there's
no
animals
coming
back
and
forth,
and
and
there's
no
cooperation
between
the
farms
and
animals
around
there's
so
to
try
to
say
that
gold
2.4
ways
again
instead,
when
it's
not
even
being
used
as
rangeland
I
think,
is
a
little
bit
of
a
stretch.
Also.
A
BB
To
our
meeting
senator
thank
you,
Mr
chairman,
before
we
start
I'm
a
little
Brent's
pulling
up
the
slides
for
the
record.
My
name
is
Todd
Lakey
address,
141
East,
Carlton,
Meridian,
Idaho,
land
use
attorney
with
abort
Lakey
law,
and
just
here
is
Mr
Lakey
tonight,
not
as
Senator
commissioner
Commissioners.
BB
You
have
my
analysis
and
if
you
think
this
is
a
good
project,
it
is
supported
by
the
ordinance
and
the
comprehensive
plan
and
should
be
approved
in
this
location.
This
RV
facility
will
enhance
the
Aesthetics
of
the
site,
generate
less
noise,
provide
environmental
cleanup
and
support
recreational
opportunities
and
facilities
in
Ada
County.
BB
BB
It
also
supports
the
agricultural
industry
Commissioners
by
providing
housing
for
those
in
agriculture,
those
dairies
and
feedlots
that
are
out
there
need
the
employees.
It
also
reduces
the
pressure
to
develop
residential
on
the
more
prime
or
viable
Farm
ground
by
allowing
residential
use
on
this
non-farm
parcel.
BB
BB
It
also
fits
with
the
stated
purpose
of
the
C1
Zone
in
regard
to
that
it
supports
Travelers
Agriculture
and
will
be
providing
services
and
infrastructure,
but
you
also
have
to
look
at
that
section
in
conjunction
with
the
rest
of
the
zoning
ordinance,
which
allows
an
RV
park
by
conditional
use
permit
in
a
C1
Zone.
An
RV
park
by
its
nature
brings
in
and
benefits
people
from
the
outside,
and
if
that
was
not
appropriate,
then
it
wouldn't
be
allowed
by
Cup
in
a
C1
Zone.
BB
It
also
is
a
little
bit
different
than
your
standard
commercial
and
it
provides
residential
which
will
provide
needed
Housing
Services
for
those
that
live
in
the
area
once
it's
built.
The
comprehensive
plan
also
allows
commercial
development
outside
impact
areas
in
compliance
with
standards.
Might
conclude,
Mr
chairman
you.
A
BB
Ahead,
thank
you.
With
the
proposed
conditions,
the
technical
analysis
has
been
provided
the
Community
Systems
and
infrastructure,
they're
landscaping
and
amenities.
This
will
not
be
materially
detrimental
and
will
enhance
the
site
in
the
area
that
Mr
chairman
we'd,
ask
for
your
approval.
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
questions
if
you
have
them.
BB
I'm
Mr
chairman
and
commissioner
Davidson.
This
supports
the
recreational
opportunities
you
have,
the
Snake
River
Birds
of
Prey
area.
You
have
the
Snake
River
in
close
proximity,
the
county
has
recreational
opportunities
throughout
the
county
and
those
are
designed
to
be
supported
by
people
that
go
and
use
those
areas.
Pay
fees,
donate
this
opportunity,
or
this
residential
Resort
provides
people
that
engage
in
those
things
and
supports
those
type
of
uses
and
opportunities.
So
the
recreation
within
the
site
isn't
really
the
issue.
P
A
AX
I
BC
You
can
hear
me
correctly:
yes,
we
can't
all
right.
I
grew
up
in
Boise
I,
currently
live
in
Idaho
Falls,
but
I
rarely
can
come
visit
anymore
because
even
trying
to
come
over
to
see
my
aging
parents
there's
not
a
great
solution
for
me.
BC
I,
my
parents
live
in
the
Boise
area,
but
they
live
in
a
tiny
home
and
I
come
over
with
my
kids
and
they
have
a
one
bedroom
or
a
two
bedroom
one
bath
home
and
there's
no
place
for
us
to
go
so
I
actually
am
in
a
different
group
than
everybody
else,
because
we
have
a
my
husband
and
I
are
in
a
six
digit
income
and
we're
not
retired,
but
we
have
more
than
six
kids
and
if
I
want
to
get
a
hotel,
I
have
to
get
many
hotel
rooms
if
I
want
to
get
an
Airbnb
people
aren't
willing
to
give
or
to
rent
to
somebody
who
has
a
lot
of
children.
BC
So
this
is
a
great
solution
for
me
and
my
family
to
come
over
for
short-term
or
even
a
little
bit
more
extended.
If
my
parents,
in
their
aging
years,
need
help
I
live
on
20
acres
in
Idaho
Falls,
they
have
developed
all
of
the
land
around
us
and
you
know
through
the
years
people
fight
it.
BC
But
in
the
end
we
actually
really
end
up
loving
our
neighbors
they're
great
people
and
they've
brought
a
lot
of
wonderful
things
to
our
area
and
I
actually
have
people
wanting
to
buy
my
land
all
the
time
to
develop
it.
But
if
I
were
to
come
to
the
Boise
area,
because
I
love
living
on
I
would
choose
this
RV
park
over
another
RV
park
because
I
like
the
rural
aspect
of
it,
so
I'm
a
PO
or
I'm
I'm
for
this
project.
BC
A
H
The
first
one
Mr
chairman
well
she's,
coming
up
the
when
Lenny
had
testified.
He
they
had
passed
out
this,
so
this
will
be
exhibit
number
113..
Okay,
thank
you.
A
Okay,
go
ahead,
Kelly
my.
BD
Name
is
Kelly
Devine
at
7707
West
Vallejo,
Road
I'm
directly
across
the
street,
from
this
proposed
RV
site,
our
family
moved
to
this
location
for
the
Privacy
quiet,
neighborhood
community.
We
worked
hard
and
together
to
choose
this
location.
The
black
dog
Clays
across
the
street
had
limited
respectful
hours
and
days.
They
were
open.
The
noise
was
virtually
inconsequential
when
a
neighbor
dog,
barks
or
horse
winnies
or
car
drives
down
the
road.
We
hear
it
and
know
or
make
guesses
who
it
is.
The
choices
are
minimal
and
we
are
usually
right.
We
are
across
the
road.
BD
We
can
hear
voices
in
conversational
tone
from
the
top
of
the
proposed
RV
park,
while
sitting
or
working
in
our
yard,
maybe
not
the
words
but
the
voices
in
conversational
tone.
There
will
be
on
average,
388
to
1500,
plus
or
minus
people,
families
plus
up
to
hundreds
of
dogs
potentially
moving
in
across
the
road.
The
noise
from
those
families
enjoying
life,
their
vacation
or
working
through
another
unknown,
frustrating
day
venting
in
the
only
space.
They
have
to
call
home
the
noise
from
the
children
being
children
with
other
children.
BD
BD
You
shouldn't
have
to
monitor
life,
that's
a
hefty
responsibility,
and
yet
that's
exactly
what
is
needed
that
many
people
in
such
a
small
location,
put
in
the
middle
of
a
quiet
rule
off
the
Beaten
Track
neighborhood
doesn't
work
forcing
that
many
families
and
their
dogs
to
keep
to
a
schedule
and
hold
your
emotions.
In
24,
7
doesn't
work
short-term
or
long
term,
but
claiming
it
won't
be
a
problem
for
neighbors
and
will
be
better
than
the
shooting
range
seems
rather
Fantastical
and
far-fetched.
BD
If
this
proposed
RV
part
goes
in
next
door
to
the
very
reasons
we
bought,
our
home
here
are
no
longer
viable
and
selling
to
people
wanting
this
home,
for
those
reasons
will
not
buy
here.
If
this
park
is
built
and
property
value
is
thus
greatly
decreased.
This
doesn't
even
address
the
Deep
swells
on
the
Vallejo
Road,
regardless
of
the
width
increase,
creating
serious
blind
spots,
the
increase
of
people
walking
themself
elves
or
their
dogs
down
narrow,
Vallejo
road
with
no
sidewalks
to
enjoy
the
views
along
with
the
increase
in
traffic.
BD
W
BE
Jeff
Benjamin
2601,
South
Loftus
way,
but
I
grew
up
on
3727
East
Lake
Hazel
Road
not
too
far
down
the
road
from
this,
and
it
grew
up
on
a
small
acreage
farm
with
my
family
and
we
were
surrounded
by
beautiful
Farm
fields
and
it
was
wonderful
and
then
people
started
building
neighborhoods
around
us
and
it
was
frustrating.
It
was
sad.
BE
We
didn't
get
as
much
privacy,
more
traffic
yeah,
it
wasn't
wasn't
very
fun,
but
then
I
just
spent
the
past
two
years
serving
a
mission
over
in
the
Midwest
Nebraska
and
I
ran
into
a
lot
of
people
that
were
from
Idaho
and
they
could
no
longer
afford
to
live
there,
and
so
they
moved
out,
and
so,
as
I've
tried
to
learn
to
focus
more
on
other
people.
BE
A
Now
I'm,
looking
on
every
page
here,
I,
don't
see
any
more
paid
back
of
the
back
of
the
page.
BF
Of
your
hand,
I
was
on
the
list
as
well.
I,
don't
think
my
name
was
called
Jason
Mount
800,
Main,
Street,
I'm,
I,
don't
know
or.
BF
Your
name
go
ahead:
yeah,
so
I
I
represent
Vicki
Catlin.
She
is
a
owner
of
property
right
to
the
east
of
this
site.
She
owns
two
Parcels
of
land,
making
up
the
40
Acre
Farm
right
there
to
the
East
and
I.
Don't
have
too
many
more
comments
that
weren't
made
already,
but
I
just
wanted
to
preserve.
Miss
cantlin's
wishes
to
present
to
the
record
that
she
opposes
this
project.
BF
She
doesn't
think
that
it
fits
the
character
of
the
existing
neighborhood
she's
very
concerned
that
the
Amendments
and
ultimate
development
that's
associated
with
this
application,
would
have
an
adverse
impact
on
her
property
and
really
because
of
the
slope
and
terrain
of
this
property.
She
believes
that
her
property
could
bear
the
brunt
of
many
of
the
issues
that
have
been
brought
up
about
this
project
here
that
on
along
the
Vallejo
Corridor
I,
just
the
one
issue
that
I
wanted
to
address
after
listening.
BF
Listening
to
many
of
the
arguments
tonight
and
from
the
previous
meeting
is
that
you
know
you'll
recognize
that
most
of
the
comments
opposed
not
aren't
really
being
shared
they're,
not
really
your
garden
variety,
not
in
my
backyard
complaints,
but
instead
our
actual
concerns
questioning
how
such
a
project
is,
could
really
be
contemplated
in
this
area,
and
basically
it
just
does
not
go
with
or
fit
with
its
area
and,
of
course,
Ms
Catlin
requests
that
it
be
denied
I
do
a
couple
of
the
items
that
I
just
wanted
to
bring
to
the
attention
that
need
to
be
factored
in
more
than
you
know
it.
BF
Of
course,
the
peeling
testimony
has
to
a
transition,
housing
or
affordable
housing
doesn't
really
go
to
the
issues
of
what
needs
to
be
amended
here,
but
I
do
the
goals
of
the
2.2
and
2.4
I
think
what
wasn't
stated
out
of
those
previously
was
that
you
know
the
comprehensive
plan
is
it
makes
clear
that
commercial
designations
only
make
sense
where
investments
in
urban
Services
have
already
been
made
or
planned
and
programmed,
and
those
Services
have
not
really
been
planned
or
programmed
for
this
area
and
same
with
2.4
it
references
that
commercials
should
be
in
areas
with
adequate
services
and
public
infrastructure.
BF
Again,
that's
absent
from
this
area.
The
change
the
plan
is
not
compatible
at
this
time
with
the
surrounding
properties,
especially
Miss
countlin's
property,
which
is
Ranch
Land,
not
commercial,
so
you
know
really
there's
a
lack
of
the
Public
Services
needed
for
this
to
serve
of
a
large
RV
Park
in
this
area.
Noted
is
the
fact
that
you
know
services
are
at
least
three
or
four
miles
away
that
are
needed
for
this
many
people,
and
so
in
just
conclude,
real
quick
that.
BF
You
know
this:
this
project
is
not
standard,
it's
not
similar
to
the
surrounding
area
and
there's
not
you
know
an
absolute
need
to
change
the
rangeland
to
commercials.
So
thank
you.
Okay,.
AN
Ahead
some
stragglers
chairman
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Tim
Flaherty.
My
address
is
6225
West
Overland,
Road,
Boise,
Idaho
I'm,
the
founder
of
a
non-profit
that
works
here
in
Ada
County
and
across
the
Treasure
Valley
helping
people
get
out
of
homelessness
and
we
are
also
an
affordable
housing
provider.
AN
We
manage
a
transitional
housing
program
where
we
provide
services
along
with
the
housing
in
general.
The
participants
stay
for
about
two
years
and
in
that
time
they
learn
life
skills
and
budgeting.
They
they
save
money
and
they
become
self-sufficient
in
the
past.
One
of
the
ways
that
the
people
from
our
transitional
housing
have
been
able
to
stand
on
their
own
two
feet
is
once
they've
saved
enough
money.
AN
However,
right
now
there's
a
standstill,
you
know
that
in
RV
parks.
So
from
my
perspective,
this
project,
it
provides
some
hope.
AN
AN
They
can
stand
on
their
own
two
feet
and
they're
stuck
right
now
with
no
place
to
go
this
project,
it's
not
going
to
solve
every
single,
affordable
housing
problem,
we've
got,
but
it
is
something
and
we
need
to
support
and
I
say
we
as
a
community
need
to
support
Developers
who
are
willing
to
take
these
risks,
because
this
is
a
risk
you're
putting
a
lot
of
money
on
the
line
to
make
something
like
this
happen
and
so
I
think
as
a
community
we
need
to.
We
need
to
stand
alongside
them.
AN
I
know
the
Griffins
personally,
they're
good
people,
I
I,
believe
they're
going
to
do
their
utmost
to
work
with
their
neighbors,
and
you
you
already
see
that
in
their
plan
you
know
they
had
a
meeting
with
the
neighbors.
They
they
heard
their
concerns,
they've
done
their
best,
they're
widening
the
road
you've
heard
it
all
already.
AN
They
want
to
mitigate
the
impacts
that
that
they
might
cause
by
doing
this
project,
and
that's
I
think
what
we
can
ask
as
a
community
and
that's
what
we
should
ask
is
for
them
to
to
build
this
out
with
conditions
and
I'd.
Ask
you
to
approve
this
project
tonight
and
keep
hope
alive
here
in
Ada
County.
Thank
you
very
much.
BG
Hi,
my
name
is
Macy
Griffin.
My
address
is
752
West
Heather,
Ridge,
Drive
I
stand
before
you
today
to
testify
and
support
of
the
application
to
prove
that
Ridgeview
RV
support,
my
husband
and
I
are
college
students.
We
moved
back
to
Idaho
last
year
after
six
month,
work
contract
in
Texas
to
say
finding
a
place
to
live
was
nearly
impossible
would
be
an
understatement.
BG
For
us,
it
is
extremely
important
to
be
debt-free
and
we
knew
that
in
Texas
it
would
cost
us
1600
a
month
to
rent,
as
we
were
running
out
of
opportunities
we
applied
and
we
got
accepted
to
BYU
and
that
we
would
have
to
be
outpriced
and
moved
to
Utah.
We
are
people
of
faith
and
we
knew
what
whatever
happened
would
happen.
For
a
reason.
The
impression
came
to
us
to
look
at
a
short-term
renting
in
an
RV
to
our
luck.
BG
We
were
one
of
the
last
people
accepted
in
the
center
Park
RV
Park
in
Nampa,
which
has
been
full
ever
since
they
now
have
a
waiting
list.
Two
years
out
and
I
know
this,
because
I
used
to
work
there.
Well,
we
lived
at
the
RV
resort
for
six
months.
Our
neighbors
were
doctors
and
nurses,
linemen
and
construction
workers,
teachers
and
paramedics.
This
park
will
provide
transitional
stays
for
People,
Like,
Us,
hard-working
goal-oriented
and
future-minded
people.
This
RV
Resort
needs
your
support.
Thank
you.
So
much.
A
Thank
you,
okay,
I
guess,
that's
all
the
public
tests!
Oh,
we
have
another
one.
Q
AH
AH
Reside
in
this
community,
it's
been
my
experience
that
they
do
not
know
how
to
read
or
respect
the
laws
of
the
land
as
private
property
owners.
There's
been
so
many
violations
out
there
where
they
run
their
dogs.
Oh
I,
didn't
realize
this
was
private
property.
Well,
it
belongs,
doesn't
belong
to
you,
so
it
belongs
to
somebody
and
I'm
really
concerned
with
our
Dairy
and
the
way
that
the
winds
Prevail
from
the
Northwest
to
the
southeast,
that
I
will
get
a
lot
of
complaints
because
of
what
I
do
and
where
I
do
it.
Q
So
a
number
of
things,
as
we
were
taking,
notes,
number
one.
It's
Our
intention.
If
the
board
will
allow
us
to
have
longer
stay
the
six-month
minimum
we
wanted
to
allow
more
than
six
months
days,
but
to
choose
to
mirror
the
Ada
County
RV
Park
was
Our
intention,
their
ccnr's
to
create
the
same
standard
as
what
the
commission
currently
has
approved
and
what
the
county
owns
in
itself,
where
we
want
to
have
longer
stay
opportunities.
Q
We
want
tonight
you've
heard
from
lawyers
you've
heard
from
business
owners,
you've
heard
from
students
you've
heard
from
Neighbors
that
are
in
support,
as
well
as
some
opposed
you've
heard
the
whole
mixing
putt.
We
are
willing
to
add
additional
laundromats
if
the
board
feels
like
it
is
necessary
and
that
DEQ
will
allow
DEQ
and
achd
approve
this
project
with
conditions.
We
will
meet
those
conditions
and
then
some.
What
are
then
some
one
of
the
things
that
was
mentioned
is
a
few
people
have
mentioned
that
they
want
a
bike
lane
or
a
shoulder.
Q
Currently,
with
the
approval
from
hchd's
conditions,
we
would
need
a
three
foot
unpaved
shoulder
on
each
side,
we'll
pave
it
we'll
put
in
a
bike
path.
We're
willing
to
do
that.
That's
something
that
we're
willing
to
do,
because
we
want
to
make
this
project
work
for
all
parties
if
a
bike
packs,
but
it
will
take
we'll
do
it.
Q
The
project
is
on
the
North
End
of
the
property
on
a
hill.
You
drive
up
to
get
to
the
project,
and
then
it
sits
a
hill
and
it
tears
down
to
the
north.
The
neighbors
to
the
South
won't
be
seeing
this
project
they'll,
be
seeing
the
trees
and
the
berms
blocking
out
the
views
to
nothing.
They're
not
going
to
be
able
to
see
that
they're
going
to
see
trees,
berms
beautification
in
the
area
I
just
want
to
share
a
personal
that
last
one
the
girl
that
came
up.
Q
That's
my
good
wife,
Macy
she's,
amazing
she's,
holding
our
baby
over
there.
One
of
the
comments
was:
is
those
people
that
live
in
trailer
parks
can't
read?
Well,
I
read
just
fine
when
we
move
back
from
Texas.
Sorry,
I,
don't
know
why
that
may
bug
me,
but
that's,
okay!
When
we
moved
back
from
Texas,
there
was
no
housing
available.
Our
families
lived
here,
but
there
was
nothing
available.
Q
Our
only
option
was
to
apply
to
a
different
School
in
a
different
state
to
live
in
our
home
or
in
an
RV.
Our
payment
was
400
a
month
and
250
for
an
RV
at
650
dollars.
That's
what
we
plan
to
do
here
to
provide
opportunities
for
a
future
law
student
and
a
future
med
student
business
owners,
Property
Owners,
retirees
that
love
America
and
want
to
see
every
bit
of
it,
and
everything
in
between
this
is
important
for
our
community.
Q
This
is
important
for
the
development
of
Ada
County
a
place
that
five
generations
of
griffins
the
comet
was
also
made.
Oh,
if
I
would
have
called
my
friends
and
family,
we
would
have
done
that,
but
we
did
because
it
was
important
to
every
single
one
of
those
people
that
testified
today.
The
105
people
that
signed
that
petition
and
support
it
mattered
to
them.
Q
Q
He
wouldn't
be
able
to
afford
to
live
here
now
we're
making
it
work,
because
this
is
our
home,
we're
making
it
work,
because
this
is
where
we
want
to
develop
ourselves
and
our
futures
and
our
families-
and
this
is
a
stepping
stone
for
a
lot
of
people
now
I'm
not
choked
up
anymore.
My
voice
is
gone
so
that
first
part
that
was
a
little
choked
up
now.
We're
good
people
want
to
live
here.
People
want
to
bring
their
money
here.
Q
They
want
to
bring
their
tax
dollars
here
we
want
to
make
Vallejo
Road
the
safest
Road
in
the
county
because
it
needs
it.
One
too
many
have
died
on
that
street
and
we
want
to
help
impact
a
positive
change.
They
say
that
the
dogs
are
going
to
run
wild
On
Vallejo
road,
if
that,
if
you
can
pull
up
the
property
Project
image
from
my
slideshow,
there
are
walking
paths.
There
are
dog
paths,
there
are
dog
parks,
it
will
be
kept
within
the
39
and
a
half
acres
we've
made
sure
of
it.
Q
This
RV
resort
is
something
bigger
than
just
some
trailer
trash
Park
that
we
want
to
put
in
the
county
we're
willing
to
invest
millions
of
dollars
into
this
County
into
the
310
people
at
a
time
that
could
stay
here
to
a
few
dogs
that
they
might
have
companionship
with
to
be
able
to
get
through
their
hardship.
That's
why
they're
in
a
trailer,
it's
a
dire
need,
it's
absolutely
necessary.
Q
I,
don't
know
how
many
articles
have
to
be
written
about
it
before
change
happens,
I,
don't
know
how
many
Brokers
or
land
use
attorneys
need
to
come
in
here
to
say
that's
important
and
essential
to
make
a
change
happen.
We
have
given
everything
and
then
some
in
conclusion
everything
and
then
some
were
willing
to
make
it
a
safe
space.
I,
don't
know
how
often
people
bring
in
a
sheriff's
letter
saying
the
sheriff
supports
a
project
and
we'll
back
it
up
with
data
to
talk
about
safety.
Q
I,
don't
know
how
many
people
are
willing
to
put
1.2
million
dollars
into
extending
a
pipe
so
neighbors
don't
have
their
Wells
dry
up
and
have
access
to
water
or
have
access
because
they
said
fire
can
come
over.
What's
a
fire
truck
have
to
do
if
a
fire
truck
has
to
fill
up
somewhere
and
that's
out
of
fire
hydrant,
then
they
can
run
a
half
a
mile
up
the
road
a
quarter
mile
and
put
out
a
fire.
This
is
essential.
It
needs
your
support.
There's
been
an
overwhelming
support.
Q
Q
Deq
will
not
allow
a
project
to
be
put
in
place.
That's
going
to
impact
the
largest
Canal
cutting
through
the
valley.
They
won't
that's
why
we
have
the
bodies
conditions
of
use
in
this
when
we
develop
a
septic
tank
holding
and
a
septic
system,
nothing
can
get
developed
without
their
say-so.
That's
part
of
every
project
so
for
individuals
to
say:
well,
it's
going
to
leak,
lead
and
contaminants
right
after
they
say
we're.
Q
Spraying
chemicals
straight
into
the
canal
is
unfair
to
say
we're
doing
things
to
mitigate
the
issues,
we're
doing
things
to
make
sure
that
it's
to
the
highest
energy
DEQ
will
oversee
this
project.
It
will
not
have
runoff,
it
will
not
have
leakage
into
the
canal
or
septic
into
the
into
the
property.
We
will
be
doing
the
highest
level
of
standard
and
requirement
to
get
this
passed.
D
D
Sure
yeah
all
right.
Let's
talk
about
the
surrounding
farms
and
we've
heard
testimony
that
you
know
there
may
be
smells
or
maybe
odors
or
maybe
Farm
noises.
You
know
you
understand.
In
Idaho
we
have
a
right
to
Farm
Act,
and
that
means
that
the
farmers
have
the
right
to
conduct
their
business.
You
cannot
move
into
an
area
and
then
have
people
complain
or
try
to
litigate
the
noises
and
odors
that
come
from
a
farm.
D
Q
Q
D
All
right,
let
me
bring
up,
you
know
the
noise
issue
and
that's
always
an
issue
with
every
development,
no
matter
what
you've
heard
testimony
from
the
neighbors,
it
seems
like
in
order
to
make
this
work
there
may
have
to
be.
You
know,
strict
noise
requirements.
Could
you
address
the
noise
issue
a.
Q
Part
of
the
application
it
asked
if
we
wanted
to
put
in
speakers
or
any
kind
of
we
want
to
keep
the
quaint
quietness
of
an
agriculture
area
within
our
commercial
area
as
well
personally,
living
in
one
of
these
Parks
I've
never
had
an
issue
with
one
of
my
neighbors
making
noise
or
hearing
Noise
Within
the
park.
If
that
means
that
we
need
to
say
quiet
times
are
after
10,
these
are
hard-working
people,
they're
asleep
at
nine.
We'll
do
that
as
well.
D
Q
Currently
haven't
looked
at
or
gone
into,
internet
quotes
or
anything
like
that.
We're
trying
to
get
over
this
first
hurdle
before
that.
I
would
hope
that
we
could
put
in
air
internet
into
the
area,
but
a
hot
spot's
going
to
have
to
do
from
somebody's
cell
phone.
In
the
meantime,.
D
And
then,
as
as
far
as
recreational
amenities,
you
know
I'm
I'm
looking
at
you
know
what
keeps
people
in
the
park
for
recreation,
so
they
don't
have
to
leave.
You
mentioned
dog
dog
walking
areas,
maybe
just
address
recreational
opportunities
within
the
development.
Absolutely.
Q
And
and
Commissioners
I'll
I'll
stress
this
enough,
one
more
time
whatever
the
minimum
is
or
the
maximum
or
whatever
we
need
to
do
we're
willing
to
put
in
place.
If
you
think
one
pickleball
court
isn't
enough
for
our
retirees
we'll
put
in
two.
If
you
think
there
needs
to
be
a
specific
open,
Green
Space
just
for
parking
we'll
do
that.
But
currently,
in
our
plans
we
have
a
pickleball
court.
We
have
walking
paths
within
the
39
and
a
half
acres.
For
that
reason,
we
don't
want
to
have
people
encroaching
on
other
people's
areas.
Q
A
P
D
So
one
of
my
concerns
is
as
I
mentioned
when
you,
when
you
gave
your
opening
statement,
is
the
the
two
categories
of
of
RV
park
and
kind
of
the
the
inherent,
maybe
difficulty
in
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
balance
that,
and
obviously
we
heard
a
lot
of
testimony
about
the
need
for
affordable
housing
and
but
we
have
to
look
at
it
and
say
well
if
this
is
going
to
be
more
of
an
RV
Resort,
this
is
not
really
a
housing
solution.
D
This
is
a
vacation
resort
solution
which
the
market
desperately
needs,
but
that
is
different
than
you
know:
the
various
needs
of
the
community
and
so
I'm.
Just
you
know,
I
I
have
some
trepidation
without
some
more
clarity
on
how
you
intend
to
kind
of
balance,
those
to
competing
interests,
and
so
I
mean
I'm,
wondering
if
you
would,
you
know,
as
a
condition
of
approval
submit
to
Ada
County
would
approve
your
residential
plan
and
ccnrs
as
a
condition
of
approval.
Q
D
Yes,
okay,
well,
that's
very
admirable
and
you
you
did
seem
to
make
it
clear
that
you're
open
to
other
various
conditions.
If,
if
the
county
felt
that
was
necessary,
absolutely.
O
A
A
Okay,
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
on
application.
A
Easy
for
me
to
say:
yes,
okay,
the
hearing
is
closed
and
now
the
the
commission
will
make
make
a
discussion
on
on
the
on
the
issue.
In
our
discussion
we
will
either
determine
whether
we
will
accept
or
reject
this
proposal
or
accept
with
conditions
and
that's
what
we're
what
we're
talking
about
now.
So
anybody
want
to
open
up
well.
A
We'll
take
a
short
break
after
this,
but
because
we
got
enough,
we
got
a
little
itty
bitty
cell
tower.
Next.
A
So,
okay,
let's
kick
off
the
deliberations!
Any
any
comments
from
other
Commissioners
I
do
have
some
comments,
but
I'll
I'll
deferred
it
to
my
colleagues
start
out
with
no.
B
So
I
really
appreciate
everybody
being
here
tonight
and
providing
testimony
and
being
patient
with
all
of
us.
So
this
is
really
interesting,
really
challenging
I,
really
I
love
the
project.
I
think
the
project
is
amazing:
I
I'm
a
little
bit
confused
on
whether
it's
a
recreational
RV
park
or
affordable
housing
option
and
so
I'm
really
not
sure
what
what
you're
trying
to
do
out
there-
maybe
a
little
bit
of
both
I,
don't
know,
but
if
but
I
don't
see
this
as
a
long-term
housing
solution.
B
In
my
mind,
what
you're
asking
for,
though
here's
my
here's,
my
problem,
fellow
Commissioners,
is
they're
asking
for
changing
our
comprehensive
plan.
That
is
a
big
deal.
This
is
not
a
variance.
It's
not
a
conditional
use.
Permit.
It's
changing
our
comp
plan
and
our
comp
plan
takes
years
and
years
for
our
staff
members
to
negotiate
with
the
cities
and
it's
kind.
It's
it's
a
big
deal
so
I
think
looking
at
does
this.
If
we
change
the
comp
plan,
what
are
the
kind
consequences
or
unintended
consequences
of
other
surrounding
properties
and
I?
B
Think
we
don't
know
that
we
can't
answer
that
right
now.
So
that's
a
that's
a
concern.
I
have
and
I
think
p
and
Z
counsel.
Their
commission
unanimously
voted
denial,
I,
think,
based
on
that
and
and
that
the
services
aren't
out
there
to
meet
310
units,
so
I
think
we're
looking
at
changing
this
rural
egg
to
high
density.
One
of
the
gentlemen
gave
us
the
density
numbers
so
right
now,
where
we're
at
with
our
comp
plan
is
one
one
unit
went
home
per
10
acres.
B
So
I
think
I
mean
just
the
density
of
it.
Has
me
concerned
again:
I
love
the
idea.
I
love
the
project.
It
is
definitely
needed,
but
that's
a
real
concern
with
Ingress
and
egress
we've
got.
We
all
know
Coal
Road
is
you
know,
Heavenly
or
trafficked
heavily
out
there,
Ingress
and
egress
off
Vallejo
road
is
really
really
difficult.
B
Achd
is
behind
probably
by
five,
if
not
ten
years,
and
so
the
chances
of
them
getting
out
there
and
fixing
the
road
conditions
to
allow
another
over
1,
000
trips,
I
think
is
unrealistic
to
think
that
they're
going
to
be
able
to
do
that
anytime
soon.
The
other
thing
I'm
kind
of
concerned
about-
and
this
goes
to
just
a
larger
problem-
I
think
that
the
county
has
is
we
don't
have
we
don't
really
have
I,
don't
think
an
adequate
code
for
distinguishing
between
this?
B
This
RV
Resort
Recreational
Park
versus
a
manufactured
Park,
and
my
problem
is
the
manufactured
Park,
which
would
make
more
sense,
has
all
of
the
guidelines
and
things
we
would
need
to
be
looking
at.
We
would
need
to
be
looking
at.
You
know
adequate
fire.
We
would
be
needing
to
look
at
all
the
services
whether
it's
Idaho,
Power
EMS,
would
have
to
write
letters.
Sheriff
would
have
to
write
letters.
Fire
would
have
to
write
letters.
Schools
would
have
to
write
letters.
B
This
bypasses
all
of
that
and
if
we're
going
to
be
having
people
live
out
there
long
term
or
longer
term,
the
code
doesn't
cover
any
of
that,
and
so
it
just
leaves
us
really
open
it's
kind
of
a
slippery
slope.
It
really
leaves
us
open
to
what
next
and
so
again
I
love
the
project
I'm.
Just
trying
to
figure
out
I
think
it's
probably
premature
to
be
here
at
this
board
level
right
now,
but
to
I
think
maybe
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
take
a
look
at.
B
And
then
you
don't
have
long
term,
because
I
don't
think
RVs
are
meant
to
be
lived
in
long-term
for
safety
reasons.
There
have
been
numerous
fires,
people,
their
trailers,
Catch,
Fire
and,
and
they
have
died
just
in
Garden
City
a
year
or
two
ago,
because
they're
not
built
to
be
long-term
residential
housing.
So
there's
this
whole
safety
risk
issue
in
my
mind,
again,
I'm
trying
to
figure
out.
You
know
how
what
is
the
solution
and
we
do
have
a
solution
and
I
think
this
is
really
creative,
I.
B
D
Well,
I
I
I
mean
I.
Think
it's
you
know,
there's
absolute
certainty
that
there's
a
lack
of
RV
spaces
in
Ada
County
I
mean
that's,
that's
not
news.
The
question
is:
is
this
the
best
project
to
to
meet
those
needs?
D
The
the
RV
park,
the
county,
owns
as
a
maybe
a
year-long
backlog
of
people
waiting
to
to
get
into
that,
so
it
certainly
something
that
is
needed
in
the
marketplace.
So
I
have
to
ask
myself
well.
Why
aren't
we
having
10
proposals
brought
to
us,
as
was
mentioned
by
pnz
and
I
I?
Think
probably
one
of
the
reasons.
Why
is
because
it's
difficult
to
secure
a
location
at
a
at
a
cost?
That's
going
to
make
it.
D
You
know
financially
make
sense,
and
so
people
are
going
to
have
to
look
for
sites
out
in
the
sticks.
In
the
you
know,
the
rural
areas-
and
you
know,
there's
inevitably
going
to
be
Farms
close
by
it's
I.
Just,
don't
see
anything
really
located
too
close
to
town.
That's
you
know
going
to
be
financially
viable,
so
I
I
do
I
do
understand
the
concerns.
I
think
the
applicant
has
done
pretty
heroic
work
to
try
to
address
those
I
think
having
the
developers
pay
to
bring
the
water
to
the
property
is
extremely
commendable.
D
Obviously,
there's
if
this
goes
through,
there's
still
challenges
to
address,
as
commissioner
Kenyon
stated,
I
think
as
it
was
presented
right
now,
they're
still,
even
if
we
do
approve
it,
they're
still
going
to
have
to
get
signed
off
by
Central
District
Health
for
the
septic
I
believe
the
lead
remediation
is
is
part
of
the
conditions.
H
D
So
there
are
still
additional
Hoops
to
jump
through
before
this
could
even
be
built.
If
it's
approved
tonight,
I'm
I'm
wondering
if
you
know
to
address
you,
know
all
the
outstanding
issues.
If
we
added
on
a
condition
of
approval
that
would
allow
the
board
to
take
a
look
at
the
residential
policies
and
the
ccnr
is
to
try
to
find
the
answer
to
the
long-term
versus
short-term
at
an
RV
park.
D
I
think
and
then,
if
we
have
a
blanket
approval
on
other
conditions,
that
could
probably
address
some
of
the
issues
that
arise
from
this
not
being
under
the
mobile
home
designation
as
opposed
to
an
RV
park.
So
I'm
I'm
thinking
about
moving
to
add
those
conditions
so
that
the
board
and
it
might
be
a
bit
of
micromanaging.
But
the
board
could
more
closely
address
some
of
these
issues
prior
to
approval.
A
Are
you
making
a
suggestion
that
it
be
approved,
subject
to
some
conditions
or
or
I,
don't
understand
what
you're
actually
asking
but
I'll
go
ahead
and
launch
into
what
to
my
thoughts.
A
I
I
just
read
this
afternoon
that
the
city
of
Boise
just
changed
their
comprehensive
plan
and
rezone
358
Acres,
and
it
was
a
change
in
their
comprehensive
plan
to
do
that,
and
that's
because
there's
going
to
be
a
15
billion
dollar
facility
built
in
those
358
Acres,
but
they
had
to
change
the
comprehensive
plan
to
do
it
and
they
did
it
when
they
first
came
in
and
announced
that
they
were
going
to
be
changing
their
or
that
they
were
going
to
be
building
that
15
billion
dollar
facility
out
there.
A
A
I,
don't
know
when
this
kind
of
Park
would
be
would
be
available,
but
but
if
we
don't
provide
a
place
for
these
people
to
go,
they're
going
to
be
putting
their
tents
out
in
your
fields,
I
believe
or
they're
going
to
be
putting
their
their
their
RVs
on
the
side
of
the
road,
because
they're
going
to
come,
they're
going
to
be
here
and-
and
we
need
to
to
provide
a
mechanism
to
safely
house
them
as
well
as
we
possibly
can.
A
Now
the
there
were
several
of
the
people
tonight
that
opposed
this
project,
but
they
opposed
it
conditionally.
They
said
if
we
had
assurances
that
what
the
developers
are
telling
us
they're
going
to
do
is
going
to
happen.
We
wouldn't
oppose
it,
so
we
need
to
I
think,
come
up
with
the
process
to
make
sure
that
what
is
being
suggested
like
the
beautiful
plan
is
here
actually
will
be
built,
and
we
need
to
have
a
development
plan
that
that
we
are
developing
services.
A
Staff
can
can
assure
that
before
you
can
proceed,
you
have
to
have
these
plans
in
in
place
they
have
to.
They
should
have
the
the
CDH
approval.
They
should
have
the
achd
approval,
they
should
have
DEQ
approval
and
that's
another
thing.
Deq
we
had
a
gentleman
up
here.
Tell
us
there's
a
whole
barrels
full
of
lead
and
they're
still
there.
A
That's
a
safety
hazard
that
these
people
are
willing
to
ameliorate
and
to
fix,
and
so
I,
don't
understand
why
we
would
not
want
that
to
happen
to
get
all
that
lead
off
there
and
that's
the
other
thing.
This
is
a
is
a.
It
takes
a
long
time
we've
been
going
through
updating
our
comprehensive
plan
for
how
long.
A
Years
it
is
a
long-term
plan,
that's
yeah
the
zoning
code
and
it
does
take
a
long
time.
But
it
appears
to
me
from
what
I've
been
from
what
I've
seen
tonight
that
the
Commissioners
at
the
time
when
they
adopted
the
comprehensive
plan
they
they
knew,
that
gun
range
was
there,
it
wasn't
Agriculture
and
yet
they
chose
to
put
a
different
overlay
over
it.
A
And
it's
not
really
a
agricultural
land.
It
was
a
gun
range
then,
and
it's
I
guess
it's
still
gun
range,
and
so
it's
been
operating
as
a
commercial
area
for
years
am
I
wrong
that
it
has
been
operating
as
a
commercial
area
for
years,
and
if
we
can
improve
the
the
the
situation
for
310
people,
that's
going
to
be
here
anyway
in
Ada
County,
and
they
may
not
be.
A
If
there's
a
place
where
they
can
park
their
their
home
legitimately,
then
they
may
not
be
parking
in
your
driveways
and
then
your
and
your
and
your
farms
and
on
your
side
of
the
road,
because
I
think
that's
going
to
happen.
If
we
don't
provide
some
place
for
them
to
to
to
put
their
their
their
their
trailers
and
whatever
and.
AK
A
Thing
and
commissioner
Canyon
mentioned
that,
and
so
did
Mr
Davidson
it's
a
pretty
big
deal
because
we've
been
kimster
Kenya
particularly
has
been
working
on
the
water
issues
and
dried
up
Wells.
A
This
is
a
part
A
Part
solution
to
some
some
of
those
dried
up
Wells
because
they
offered
to
to
pay
for
a
main
line
from
violia
for
a
mile
or
two
I,
don't
know
how
far
it
is,
but
it's
over
a
million
dollars
to
do
that
and
that'll
fix,
at
least
that
portion
of
that
issue,
there's
more
to
be
fixed
all
right
and
we're
trying
to
to
figure
out
a
way
to
fix
it.
So
if
we
can
get
some
assurances
with
conditional
approval,
I'm
willing
to
go
ahead
and
approve
the
approve,
the
plan.
O
A
W
A
Apparently,
okay,
is
there
Mr
chair?
Yes,.
D
Well,
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
that
we
approve
this
I
guess
ill
application.
A
J
Chairman,
commissioner-
and
this
is
not
an
appeal-
correct
yeah,
not
an
appeal-
it's
a
direct
application.
Png
is
Right,
making
a
recommendation
to
you
and
just
a
reminder
that
the
recommendation
on
the
table
is
for
denial.
So
if
you
do
want
to
move
forward
with
a
motion
to
approve,
we
would
ask
you
to
table
to
get
Brent
some
time
to
craft
some
findings
that
can
support
your
decision
today.
J
Brent
I
was
looking
at
January
3rd
I.
D
AU
Actually,
what
you
want
to
do,
commissioner
I
think
you're
moving
to
improve
his
application.
You
can
approve
it
tonight,
you're
just
going
to
want
to
table
it
to
January
3rd
for
staff
to
provide
you
a
degree,
buys
findings.
If
that
includes
law
consistent
with
your
decision
tonight,
along
with
whatever
conditions
of
approval,
we
want
to
add
or
change
instead
of
tabling
it.
That's
the
only.
D
D
Do
you
want
to
add
and
and
to
add
the
following
conditions
that
The
Residency
plan
and
ccnrs
be
signed
off
by
Ada
County
and
number
two
that
Ada
County
May
impose
other
such
restrictions
as
needed.
D
That
that
I,
that
I
think
so
the
the
first
point
I'm
making
is
that
the
county
could
sign
off
on
on
those
particular
plans.
My
second
point
would
be
that
I
think
the
county
should
have
some
authority
to
add
additional
requirements.
Maybe,
regarding
you
know
the
size
of
the
bike,
paths
or
other
such
things
within
the
development
as
we
feel
is
necessary
and
that
the
applicant.
AU
I
think
your
best
solution
is
I
mean
if
you
can
provide
concrete
conditions
that
you
want
to
put
out
here
like,
if
you
want
to
say
they
can
have
us
stay
longer
than
six
months.
It's
up
to
them,
but
you're
willing
to
I
mean
that's,
that's
their
kind
of
you
can
make
that
kind
of
decision.
They're,
they're
kind
of
self-limiting
themselves
based
on
the
testimony
tonight,
sounds
like
you
prefer
them
not
to
self-limit.
This
state
am
I
Incorrect.
A
A
You
know,
but
I
don't
think
the
county
ought
to
get
involved
in
and
and
that
that
kind
of
restrictive
efforts
myself.
That's
just
me.
D
I'm
throwing
the
motion
out
there
if
it's
legal,
I
guess
we'll
see
but
based
on
you
know
the
testimony
from
the
applicant,
they
seem
to
say
that
they
would
accept
something
like
that.
A
A
B
A
A
AU
D
AU
I
understand
yeah,
so
that's
what
I
suggested.
That's
it
sounds
like
two
Commissioners
are
interested
in
approving
the
project.
So
I
suggest,
let's
table
this,
to.
AC
AU
AU
D
A
AU
A
O
B
AQ
A
Well,
good
evening,
again,
we're
back
on
the
record.
Again
today
is
December
14th
Wednesday.
We
have
next
up
application.
202
-102-816a.
A
Johnson
May
is
there
a
motion.
D
Mr
chair
and
regards
to
the
hour
I
moved
to
table
this
hearing
to
January
4th
at
10
A.M
right.
W
AW
W
D
Held
in
the
commissioner's
hearing
room
where
we're
in
this
room,
let's
write
the
public
hearing
room
right
here,
which
is
where
you're
at
right
now
and
if
you
did
sign
in
we.
We
have
your
name
on
record,
but
this
will
be
a
open
hearing
and
you
can
come
back
and
testify
so
or
you.