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A
Good
evening,
everyone
welcome
good
to
see
you
all
out
there.
We
are
having
our
public
hearing
on
Wednesday
November
16
2022
at
6
PM.
We
have
commissioner
Davidson
with
me
tonight
and
then
commissioner
Beck
is
on
he's
on
the
not
on
WebEx
but
he's
up
there
in
the
sky.
You
want
to
say
something,
commissioner
Beck.
Let
everybody
know
you're
here
with
us.
A
Right,
perfect,
okay,
everybody
so
make
sure
your
cell
phones
are
turned
off
right
or
silenced,
and
then,
if
you
want
to
provide
testimony,
make
sure
that
you
sign
up
in
the
back
and
they'll
bring
that
forward
and
we're
going
to
proceed
like
we
usually
do.
The
applicant
gets
15
minutes
and
then
five
for
rebuttal
and
individuals
will
get
three
minutes
for
Testimony.
A
B
That's
fine
go
ahead.
Okay,.
A
All
right,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye.
C
A
Aye,
okay,
it's
removed
from
the
table
all
right!
Thank
you!
We're
going
to
go
ahead
and
take
a
applicant
two
zero,
two,
two
zero
one:
seven,
two:
eight
Dash
CPA,
Dash,
z,
c,
Dash,
D,
a
dash
c:
u
Dash,
MSP
Griffin
marketing
and
do
we
have
staff
Brent?
Do
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
address
this
I
believe
we're
going
to
table
this.
C
Just
check:
okay,
okay,
so
with
that
I
will
move
to
table
application
number.
C
A
A
You
want
to
go
ahead
and
talk
to
him
right
here:
staff
staff,
member
and
just
for
the
audience
sake,
instead
of
disrupting
the
whole
process.
If
you
have
a
question,
you
can
just
come
up
and
talk
to
one
of
our
staff
members
here,
that'll
make
it
easier,
so
we're
going
to
go
ahead
now
and
we're
going
to
open
reopen.
This
is
reopen
two:
zero:
zero,
six,
zero,
zero,
two
one:
nine
CPA
Dash
D
a
dash,
M
and.
A
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Yes,
application
before
you,
you
have
heard
before
application
in.
F
2022.01329-Vac,
this
is
for
the
dry
creek
ranch
plan.
Community
applicant
is
a
Boise
Hunter
homes,
as
I
recall.
This
is
in
regards
to
the
school
site
in
Dry
Creek
Ranch.
Here's
a
photo
of
their
their
land
use
math
for
the
the
plant
community,
so
I'm
going
to
go
through
Just,
A,
Brief,
Review
of
what's
kind
of
taking
place
and
how
we
are
here
today.
So
back
in
September,
September
14th.
F
The
board
voted
to
approve
of
this
project
and
the
motion
to
approve
and
this
approval
allows
for
the
language
to
be
changed
and
the
conditions
to
allow
for
the
future
School
site
to
be
utilized
for
not
just
West
Ada
and
we're
going
to
dive
into
more
of
that
language
tonight.
But
the
board
table
that
application
with
their
motion
of
approval
to
October
12th
for
revised
findings
and
also
to
hold
another
public
hearing.
F
The
hearing
is
required
by
state
law,
as
the
board's
decision
was
a
material
change
from
the
pnz
commission's
recommendation,
Of
Denial
on
the
comprehensive
plan
text,
Amendment
and
so
prior
to
the
public
hearing.
We
re-noticed
the
item
and
all
noticing
requirements
were
met
and
then
at
your
October
12th
hearing
that
you
tabled
it
to
the
applicant
requested
to
table
the
item
to
November
9th,
then
last
week,
November
9th
we
had
a
noticing
error
and
therefore
we
tabled
it
to
today.
So
that's
how
we
got
here.
F
Let
me
go
through
here
so
just
to
touch
base
on
this
project
in
the
playing
Community
findings
that
were
adopted
at
the
time
when,
when
Dry
Creek
Ranch
was
approved.
This
is
one
of
the
the
major
findings
here
that
we're
looking
at
that
was
brought
up,
and
so
this
is
that,
basically,
if
West
ADA
School
District,
they
are
the
the
district.
F
The
school
district
that
serves
this
area,
their
their
boundaries,
are
within
this
area,
and
so,
if
you
are
to
alter
you
know
your
conditions
to
allow
for
a
charter
school
or
even
West,
Ada
school,
for
that
matter,
they're
going
to
have
to
mitigate
impacts
to
the
the
service
area
or
the
districts,
and
so
that's
what
this
finding
is
getting
at.
So
just
keep
that
in
mind.
You
know,
as
you
move
forward,
you
have
to
look
at
different
things.
You
know
that
West
Ada
is
looking
at
and
how
they're
going
to
serve
the
school
District.
F
So
West
Ada
stated
in
a
previous
comment
that
generally
they'd
like
to
see
650
students
served
in
this
school
you're
looking
at
an
elementary
school
K-5,
and
then,
let's
see
what
else
I
mean
that's.
That's
generally,
it
I
believe,
like
you,
stated
you're
going
to
discuss
tonight
age
of
the
students.
You
know
what
grades
and
then
also
the
the
geographic
boundary
for
this
proposed
charter
school
or
future
public
school
and
then
also
the
the
geographic
area
that
it's
going
to
serve
so
yeah
number
of
students
as
well
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
F
Another
thing
to
add
is:
if
you
do
go
forward
with
this
and
I
believe
Boise
owner
homes,
they
have
a
presentation,
but
they
would
like
to
see
in
the
future
that
potentially
Middle
School
is
served
on
this
site
as
well,
not
just
K
through
five
or
K
through
six.
So
if
that
does
take
place
a
future
public
hearings,
gonna
have
to
take
place
to
amend
other
parts
of
the
comprehensive
plan,
but
because
the
the
plan
currently
just
States
the
site
is
to
be
used
for
elementary
schools.
C
Is
there
a
map
of
the
proposed
boundary
of
where
students
would
be
eligible
to
go
to
school?
There.
F
Madam
chair
commissioner
Davidson,
so
West
ADA,
School
District
that
they
do
have
a
School
District
boundary.
You
know
that
they
provided
on
their
website.
I,
don't
have
it
in
front
of
me
here,
so
you.
F
A
Thank
you,
then
we'll
go
ahead
and
move
to
the
applicant,
so
we
have
Travis
Hunter
we're
going
to
start
with
Travis
good
evening,
good.
G
Evening,
Travis
Hunter
Boise,
Hunter
homes,
923
South,
Bridgeway,
Place,
Eagle,
Idaho
good
evening
Commissioners
and,
although
last
go-around,
you
guys
unanimously
voted
in
approval
of
our
request.
I
guess
we're
back
in
front
of
you
again
because
of
Idaho
code
and
Ada
County
procedure.
So
to
just
to
keep
it
brief.
To
summarize,
our
situation
records
had
a
condition
of
approval
to
donate
a
School
site
to
West
ADA
School
District.
G
We
began
building
Dry
Creek
Ranch
six
years
ago,
and
we
would
we
don't
want
to
have
to
wait
another
10
years
to
have
a
school
up
and
running
in
Dry,
Creek
Ranch.
And
if
we
ended
up
donating
the
School
site
to
West
data,
School
District,
we
think
that'd
be
a
highly
likely
possibility.
Is
that's
all
they've
been
willing
to
commit
to
us
thus
far
westada's
lack
of
urgency
to
utilize.
G
The
site
is
once
again
demonstrated
by
their
lack
of
presence
here,
the
third
meeting
in
front
of
Ada,
County
and
so
we're
here.
Just
simply
because
we
would
like
the
best
option
to
be
able
to
donate
the
School
site
to
whoever
is
ready,
willing
and
able
and
serves
the
same
needs
and
mitigation.
Last
time
we
were
in
front
of
you,
commissioner
Kenyon
you
had
some
specific
requests
for
us
to
bring
back
information
to
you
and
I'll.
G
Let
my
colleague
Todd
sent
those
and
we're
happy
to
bring
those,
and
so
in
summary,
I
ask
that
you
just
grant
us
the
most
flexibility
and
the
most
opportunity
for
the
residents
in
Ada
County
here.
Thank
you.
A
F
H
Yeah
Todd
Tucker,
representing
Boise
Hunter
homes,
business
address,
923,
South
Bridgeway
place
in
Eagle,
Idaho
83616.
H
you
can,
you
can
go
on
to
the
next
slide
Connor,
as
you
probably
remember.
You
all
approved
this
application
back
on
September
14th,
we're
back
before
you
tonight
to
address
the
three
questions,
mainly
the
three
questions
that
that
commissioner
Kenyon
had
at
that
hearing,
and
to
also
have
the
the
revised
findings
adopted
next
slide.
H
The
three
questions
that
were
raised
were:
what
will
the
attendance
boundary
be
for
the
charter
school?
What
are
the
grade
levels
proposed
for
the
school
and
how
many
students
will
be
attending
the
school
next
slide,
there's
actually
quite
a
bit
of
work
that
goes
into
having
a
charter
school
approved
by
the
state
of
Idaho.
First,
an
application
must
be
provided
to
to
all
school
districts
in
the
area
that
are
affected
by
this,
and
so
this
application,
which,
by
the
way
I
brought
a
copy
we
can
enter
into
the
record.
H
This
is
the
the
most
lengthy
application
that
I've
ever
seen
in
my
life
in
doing
planning
for
about
20
years
now.
So
this
is
the
application
that
is
created
for
a
charter
school
in
the
state
of
Idaho
that
was
provided
to
both
West
data
and
Boise
school
districts.
They
acknowledge
that
they
receive
that
application
at
the
end
of
September,
and
neither
one
of
them
provided
any
comments
on
the
application.
H
All
this
work
has
been
done
and
conducted
by
will
be
conducted
by
the
the
charter
board,
which
was
actually
created
back
in
back
in
the
summer
of
this
year,
next
slide.
H
So
all
the
questions
really
that
you
had,
commissioner
Kenyon,
have
been
answered
in
the
application
that
was
submitted
to
the
Charter
commission,
the
page
on
the
left
left
hand,
side
of
the
screen
describes
the
attendance
area
as
this
is
a
charter
school
technically
any
any
student
in
the
state
of
Idaho
can
attend
this
school
if
they
choose
to,
they
do
provide
a
preferred
attendance
area
which
encompasses
all
of
Dry,
Creek
Ranch,
so
every
resident
within
drag
Creek,
Ranch
and
then
within
a
three
mile
radius
of
Dry
Creek
Ranch
is
kind
of
the
preferred
attendance
area,
but
but
technically
the
way
the
law
is
written,
any
any
student
in
the
state
can
attend
if
they
choose
next
slide.
H
They
also
anticipate
being
a
kindergarten
through
eighth
grade
school.
However,
the
initial
year
will
be
K-5
or
k-6
and
then,
as
they'll
add
grades
as
as
the
years
go
on
a
year
at
a
time
and
also
the
the
total
enrollment
is
anticipated
to
be
645
students
and
they
plan
on
reaching
that
by
year,
five
of
the
school
being
open,
which
is
very
comparable
to
to
a
West
data.
School
of
this
size
I
think
they
they
most
elementary.
H
Schools
are
within
600
to
650
students,
so
we're
right
right
in
the
same
same
ballpark
as
as
them
next
slide.
We
feel
that
this
amendment
does
not
have
any
negative
impacts
to
the
West
State
of
school
district.
If
a
charter
school
is
constructed
in
Dry,
Creek
Ranch,
this
will
free
up
space
at
Seven,
Oaks,
Elementary
and
we'll
extend
the
timeline
that
that
West
data
actually
needs
to
get
a
bond
pass
to
build
another
school
in
this
area.
H
So
we
we
feel
that
this
actually
mitigates
the
impact
on
West
data
by
providing
another
option
for
students
to
attend
and
leaving
some
alleviating
some
of
that
pressure
on
existing
schools
in
the
area
next
slide,
and
just
we
wanted
to
bring
up
a
one
last
issue
and
that's
the
financial
viability
of
a
charter
school.
H
As
Travis
mentioned,
the
more
restrictions
that
are
placed
on
any
school
entity,
the
more
difficult
that
it
will
be
to
open
and
operate
a
school
which
is,
in
our
opinion,
the
most
important
aspect
of
this
entire
application-
is
really
the
children
and
getting
a
school
open
and
operated
as
quickly
as
possible
so
that
they
have
a
neighborhood
school
to
attend
and
and
attend
in
their
in
their
in
their
own
neighborhood
up
next
slide.
H
So
in
conclusion,
we
have
a
simple
request
and
that's
to
amend
the
condition
of
approval,
so
we
can
dedicate
the
School
site
in
Dry
Creek
Ranch,
to
either
West
data,
School,
District
or
any
other
school
entity,
including
Charter
Schools.
We
have
proposed
a
new
condition
that
we
have
listed
on
the
screen
that
we
would
like
to
have
replaced
the
existing
condition,
which
is
condition
number
61.,
and
that
concludes.
That
concludes
my
presentation.
I
can
stand
for
any
questions
or
any
questions
you
might
have
for.
H
New
yeah,
no
problem
yeah,
our
new
proposed
condition
is
to
dedicate
the
School
site
to
either
West
ADA,
School
District
or
any
other
school
entity,
including
charter
schools,
with
no
restriction
on
timing
of
the
dedication
or
plotted
Lots.
As
long
as
the
owner
is
actively
working
to
get
a
school
constructed
as
soon
as
possible
in
the
owner's
discretion
through
negotiation
with
any
school
Builder
or
District.
C
Well,
maybe
you
could
elaborate
on
owner's
discretion
through
any
negotiation
with
school,
Builder
or
District.
How
do
you
sort
of
see
that
breaking
down
when
you
get
to
that
point
sure.
H
Madam
chair,
commissioner
Davidson,
you
know
this
is
we're
really
in
the
kind
of
the
infancy
of
this
of
this,
of
this
project
being
the
school
project,
not
having
obviously
not
having
a
commit
from
commitment
from
West
data
on
a
time
to
build
a
school,
but
we
have
been
actively
working
with
with
the
residents
out
there
to
get
a
charter
in
place
and
really
the
way
we
see
it
is
we
just
need
the
flexibility,
the
first
school
to
step
up
to
the
plate.
H
You
you
get
the
shot
at
it,
and
so
that's
why
that's?
What
we're
really
looking
for
is
is
just
the
flexibility
to
not
be
restricted
on
the
number
of
lots
that
we
can.
H
We
can
plot
now
or
the
timing
of
that
dedication,
because
it's
going
to
take
some
working
through
whether
it
be
West
data
or
a
charter
school
to
get
all
of
those
fine
details
worked
out
we're
willing
to
to
work
on
those
details,
we're
willing
to
to
negotiate
with
West
data
or
with
a
charter
school
to
make
sure
the
best
the
best
product
is
provided
for
the
residents
and
the
students
here,
and
so
it's
really
just
to
give
us
some
flexibility
so
that
we
still
have
a
little
bit
of
control
on
the
type
of
school
or
the
school.
H
That's
that's
constructed
out
there
in
the
timing
of
it.
So
that's
really
what
we're
trying
to
get
at
is
just
to
give
us
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
in
that
why
we
are
still
dedicated
at
getting
this
done.
We're
motivated
to
get
it
done
as
quick
as
possible,
but
just
give
us
a
little
flexibility
in
that.
C
H
Madam
chairman
commissioner
Davidson,
yes,
we've
looked
at
all
of
it.
I
think
we
feel
we're
in
compliance
with
this
again
that
the
the
original
finding
that,
in
the
2006
code
that
Connor
referenced,
we
feel
that
we,
we
are
meeting
that
that
standard
and
that
code
we're
not
having
an
adverse
impact
on
any
of
the
public
agencies
or
districts
in
the
area,
and
we
feel
really
that
this
is.
This
is
the
best
step
forward,
honestly,
the
the
only
the
the
worst
who's
being
harmed
really
is
the
children.
H
C
Have
you
heard
any
additional
concerns
from
the
West
ADA
School
District
since
the
last
meeting.
H
A
I
F
And
Madam
chair,
sorry
to
interrupt
I
just
want
to
enter
in
Mr,
I
guess:
Mr
Tucker's
application
at
Boyce,
Hunter
homes,
presentation,
sorry
into
the
record,
is
exhibit
number
45
45.
A
Hey
the
public
hearing
is
closed,
so
the
board
is
open
to
deliberate.
Commissioner
Davidson,
would
you
like
to
kick
it
off.
C
Sure
I
think
we
had
a
really
good
hearing
on
our
first
hearing
and
that
answered
a
lot
of
questions
and
kind
of
brought
everyone
up
to
speed
sort
of
set
stage
for
for
this
hearing.
C
Idaho
code
apparently
requires
two
separate
hearings
for
this
kind
of
unique
situation.
So
this
was
a
good
opportunity
for
us
to
get
some
answers
and
on
some
of
the
outstanding
questions
and
just
worked
through
any
of
the
legal
questions
that
arose
after
the
last
meeting
and
so
I
think
I'm
comfortable
advancing
this
and
I
don't
know
if
our
we
give
a
conditional
approval
at
the
last
meeting.
This
is
a
final
approval
or
what
the
technical
aspects
are,
but
I'm
ready
to
move
forward
with
approval.
B
C
All
right,
Madam,
chair
I,
moved
to
approve
application;
number
two:
zero:
zero;
six,
zero,
zero;
two
one:
nine
Dash
CPA
Dash
D;
a
dash
m
and
202
201-329-vac.
C
C
Condition
to
be
added
in
included
in
the
motion,
original
condition,
number
61.
C
or
sorry
new
condition,
number
61.,
which
is
dedicate
the
School
site
to
either
West
ADA,
School,
District
or
any
other
school
entity,
including
charter
schools,
with
no
restriction
on
timing
of
the
dedication
or
platted
Lots.
As
long
as
the
owner
is
actively
working
to
get
a
school
constructed
as
soon
as
possible
in
the
owner's
discretion
through
negotiation
with
any
school
Builder
or
District.
C
A
J
202200042Zcda
MSP
is
an
application.
You
heard
and
approved
back
on
June
1st
and
due
to
an
error,
the
development
agreement
and
the
ordinance
were
not
recorded
and
published
within
the
30
days
after
the
approval
as
required,
which
is
why
the
application
is
now
before
you
again
as
an
overview.
The
application
is
for
a
zoning
ordinance
map
Amendment
to
rezone
the
property
from
the
rural
urban
transition,
District
to
The,
Limited,
Industrial
District
and
a
master
site
plan
for
contractor's
yard.
A
And
this
again
is
more
administrative.
Okay,
do
we
want
the
applicant
to
be
commissioner
Davidson
yeah
the
applicant
could
come
up,
give
us
a
brief
overview
if
you
like,
we
already
approved
this,
and
so
we're
back
here
again
because
of
publishing
error.
Sorry
about
that
William.
K
Mason
with
Mason
and
Associates
924
3rd
Street
South
in
Nampa
I,
don't
have
much
to
add.
This
is
contractor's
shop.
Our
contractor
is
ready
to
start
his
building
permit.
Otherwise
this
hadn't
been
finalized,
and
so
we
moved
forward
with
getting
the
original
documents
to
staff
so
that
we
could
get
this
recorded
and
finalized
I.
Don't
know
if
you
guys
have
more
questions
than
that.
Like
you
said,
it's
mostly
administrative.
We
went
through
all
the
hearings
and
thought
we
had
everything.
A
C
202-20042-Zc
Dash
D
a
dash
MSP,
Mason
and
Associates,
based
on
the
findings,
effect
and
conclusions.
The
law
contained
in
the
staff
report
and
the
testimony
heard
this
evening.
D
D
D
The
property
contains
0.285
acres
and
is
located
at
10
360
West
Fox
brush
court
and
is
located
in
the
medium
density
residential
district.
The
applicant
has
applied
for
a
variance
to
construct
an
addition
to
their
single-family
dwelling
to
encroach
into
the
15-foot
rare
property
line,
setback
and
on
this.
Here
is
the
existing
structure,
and
this
would
be
the
addition
right
here
in
order
to
Grant
a
variance.
Three
findings
need
to
be
made.
The
first
finding
is
the
variant
Grant
wire
special
privilege-
that's
not
otherwise
allowed
in
the
base
District.
D
The
second
fighting
is
the
variance
release
and
undue
hardship
due
to
characteristics
of
the
site
and
the
third
finding
is.
The
Varian
should
not
be
detrimental
to
the
public.
Health
safety
and
Welfare
staff
ends
that
the
variance
does
not
constitute
a
granting
of
a
special
ride
or
privilege,
because
a
single-family
dwelling
is
is
a
principally
permitted
use
in
the
medium
density.
Residential
district
staff
also
finds
that
the
variance
released
onto
hardship
do
characteristics
of
the
site
resulting
from
the
shape
of
the
lot
and
the
location
of
the
septic
system
and
drain
field.
D
The
law
is
a
pie,
shaped
law
and
the
single-family
dwelling
is
located
within
the
center
of
that
lot.
The
septic
system
and
drain
field
are
located
directly
north
of
the
existing
dwelling
in
the
backyard.
Thus,
this
is
the
only
location
on
the
property
in
which
to
build
the
addition
staff
finds
that
the
variance
is
not
detrimental
to
the
public
health,
safety
and
Welfare,
because
the
applicant
will
be
required
to
obtain
a
building
permit
to
construct
the
addition
to
the
single
family
dwelling.
D
There
are
no
neighbor
comments
on
this
application.
Other
agencies
that
responded
to
this
application
did
not
express
any
concerns
regarding
the
approval
of
the
variance
and
staff
finds
that
this
application
complies
with
a
county
code
and
recommends
approval
to
the
board
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
A
Beck
any
questions,
no
questions,
I
just
have
one
we
inquired
to
have
staff
go
back
with
talked
to
our
engineer,
who
made
a
comment
in
the
finding
in
the
report
that
allowing
the
two-story
structure
in
the
reset
that
could
be
problematic
with
neighbors
regarding
existing
views
and
privacy
concerns,
and
it
sounds
like
you
followed
up
with
that.
Yes,.
L
A
M
I'm
David
Fleener,
my
address
is
10360
Fox
brush
Court
I
was
trying
to
do
an
addition
to
my
place
there
and
found
15
feet
or
backspacing.
There
is
just
really
making
it
difficult,
so
I'm
just
hoping
to
request
more
lenient
there
because
of
the
shape
and
size
of
the
of
the
of
the
lot
there.
So
is
there
any
questions
or
issues
or
concerns
or
anything.
C
A
C
Well,
Madam,
chair
I
think
this
is
fairly
straightforward.
I
think
it
meets
the
three
requirements
for
granting
of
a
variance
as
a
discussed
by
our
staff.
So
I
will
just
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion
to
approve
application
number.
C
202-200-824-B
Fleener
David,
based
on
the
findings,
effect
and
conclusions
of
law
contained
in
the
staff
report,
and
the
testimony
heard
this
evening.
Yeah.
C
A
D
Ma'am
chair
Commissioners
project
number
2022-02359,
vac
PBA
is
a
vacation
of
a
public
utility
and
drainage
easement
and
a
property
boundary
adjustment
to
allow
for
an
approved
secondary
dwelling
to
be
built
within
the
utility
and
drainage
easement.
The
properties
are
located
at
28.55
and
2890
South
Mall
Farm
Drive,
and
contain
1.44
acres
and
2.15
Acres
respectively.
In
the
estate
residential
district.
D
The
applicant
has
applied
for
a
property
boundary
adjustment
to
adjust
the
common
property
line
between
Lots
14
and
15.
of
blocked,
Mall
Farm,
Acres
subdivision.
This
would
allow
for
the
addition
of
the
the
secretary
dwellings
remain
on
that
to
address
the
issue
of
the
secondary
dwelling.
What
15
was
recently
received
approval
from
the
director
to
construct
an
accessory
structure
with
a
secondary
dwelling.
D
D
This
structure
was
built
sometime
between
2000
and
2003.
We
have
no
record
of
a
zoning
certificate
or
a
building
permit
being
issued
for
the
structure.
Thus,
as
conditioned
the
owner
of
lot
14
block
2
of
Mall
Farm
Acres
subdivision
shall
submit
and
receive
approval
of
a
building
permit
for
the
unpermitted
accessory
structure.
D
In
thinking
about
the
concern
that
was
raised
by
the
owner
of
lot.
15.
staff
has
come
up
with
two
potential
options.
The
first
option
is
to
keep
the
draft
condition,
as
is
the
second
option,
is
to
remove
the
draft
condition,
which
is
condition
number
one
and
for
staff
to
place
an
alert
on
the
lot
property
lot.
15..
This
alert
would
prohibit
the
property
from
obtaining
any
building
permits
until
the
unpermitted
structure
is
permitted,
staff
finds
out
this
application
complies
with
a
county
code.
It
recommends
approval
to
the
board
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
A
D
I
I,
don't
I
think
it's
we're
only
about
to
the
board
to
the
side.
I
know
the
the
property
owner,
I.
Think
she's
here
to
testify.
I
know
she
has
some
hardship
if
this
project
is
delayed,
anymore
and
so
I
think
to
address
her
hardship,
it
would
probably
be
best
if
we
could
do
option
two
so
that
they
can
finish
their
secondary
dwelling
and
I.
A
N
Marks
Mark's,
Lancer
ring
and
I
think
probably
the
homeowner
should
be
testifying
instead
of
me.
Okay,.
O
You
Kaylee
katsianas,
yes,
as
stated
I
am
the
owner,
and
this
is
Colleen
surveyor.
So
obviously
we're
in
favor
of
doing
option
number
two
we
are.
O
We
have
spent
an
insane
amount
of
money
to
get
this
project
up
and
rolling,
and
we
feel
like
this
is
putting
an
undo
amount
of
burden
on
us
to
try
to
mitigate
an
issue
that
is
actually
our
neighbors
and
has
nothing
to
do
with
what
we're
doing
on
our
property
and
like
was
stated
earlier,
there
is
that
financial
burden
of
us
having
to
figure
out
the
logistics
of
Permitting
a
nearly
20
year
old
building,
that
is
more
of
a
weather,
shelter,
Barn,
hay,
barn
than
anything,
and
when
we
we've
actually
already
purchased
that
sliver
of
land
from
our
neighbors,
so
that
we
can
build
this
structure,
and
that
was
under
the
condition
that
we
would
pay
for
all
the
fees
and
all
the
paperwork
to
get
it
done,
and
now
that
that
is
an
issue
that
they
would
probably
well
I
mean
I,
know
they'd
want
us
to
they.
O
Just
at
Mercy
were
willing
to
sell
that
sliver
of
land
to
us
and
then
the
other
thing
is
a
burden
of
time.
We're
trying
to
get
it
finished
as
quick
as
possible
so
that
my
elderly
in-laws
can
move
in.
So
it
has
been
quite
the
lengthy
process
and
we
would
ask
that
condition,
number
one
be
waived
and
that
we
go
with
option
number
two
so
that
we
can
move
forward
with
the
project
that
pertains
to
our
property.
A
Okay,
are
they
here
you
tonight,
your
in-laws?
No
they're,
not
oh,
okay,
all
right!
All
right!
Thank
you,
I!
Think!
That's
it!
Okay!
Thank
you
appreciate
it.
I,
don't
think
we
have
any
further
testimony
or
anyone
that's
signed
up
to
testify,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing
on
20220-2359,
vac,
BPA
and
I'll
open
it
up
for
board
discussion
or
a
motion.
C
Well,
I'm,
leaning
towards
approving
this
I,
don't
see
too
many
issues.
What
are
your
thoughts.
A
Yeah
I
want
to
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion.
I
do
think
that
maybe
just
for
the
board
to
understand
I've,
never
in
my
four
years,
seen
place
an
alert
on
a
property.
What
does
that
actually
entail?
So.
D
Madam
chair,
so
in
our
property
systems
we
have
a
digital
property
system
for
our
parcels,
and
so,
if
we
have
a
parcel
that
has
let's
say
a
co-enforcement
violation,
we
can
place
an
alert
on
that
property
and
that
alert
lets
us
know
that
that
property
has
a
code
enforcement
violation,
and
so,
in
the
instance
of
this
property
you
know,
if
you
choose
to
do
option
two.
What
will
happen
is
once
you
approve
it.
I'll
put
an
alert
on
that
particular
property,
so
that
alert
will
come
up.
D
So
if
we
have,
let's
say
somebody
comes
in
with
a
building
permit
for
that
property,
we
bring
it
up
in
our
system
and
then
we
send
an
alert
on
that
particular
parcel
and
that
lets
us
know
that
there's
a
problem
with
that
parcel
and
that
the
a
property
owner
who
would
need
to
rectify
that
problem,
that's
in
the
alert
before
we
can
show
a
building
permit
of
for
a
new
building
or
for
an
additional
remodel
on
that
particular
property.
Thank.
A
C
All
right
so
I
will
go
ahead
and
move
to
approve
application.
Number.
C
202-202-359-Vac
Dash
PBA
marks
land
surveying
with
the
option
number
two,
which
is
remove
the
draft
condition,
which
is
condition
number
one
and
place
on
alert.
The
property
sorry
place
an
alert
on
the
property.
No
more
permits
would
be
issued
on
the
property
until
the
unpermitted
structure
is
permitted
and
that's
based
on
the
findings
of
fact
and
conclusions
of
law
contained
in
the
staff
report
and
the
testimony
heard
this
evening.
A
Okay,
any
discussion:
okay,
hearing,
none
all
those
in
favor,
State,
aye,.
C
A
P
All
right,
thank
you,
madam
chair
Commissioners.
The
item
for
you
is
a
two
lot
subdivision
in
the
rural
urban
transition
District,
the
property
is
located
at
2790
South
McDermott
Road,
the
proposed
lots
of
Meet
the
dimensional
standards
of
the
rut
District,
so
yeah
nothing's
coming
up
on
the
screen.
That's
because
I
need
to
share
my
screen.
I
apologize
for
that.
So
excited
for
this
project
that
I
just
I'm.
J
A
P
Pretty
mind-blowing
presentation
too,
so
you
don't
want
to
see
it
all
right.
Here
we
go
there,
we
go.
Everyone
can
see
it
now.
Thank
you
all
right.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
this
is
a
two
lot
subdivision
in
the
Rut
District
located
at
2790
South,
McDermott
Road.
It
meets
all
dimensional
standards
of
the
rut.
P
District
each
lot
will
take
direct
access
to
McDermott
Road
and,
as
you
can
see
by
the
aerial,
there's
one
existing
home
on
the
site
already,
which
would
be
on
one
of
the
proposed
lots,
and
then
the
new
lot
would
have
a
new
single-family
home
from
the
property
owner
I,
believe
it's
their
daughter
or
daughter-in-law.
That
would
be
there.
P
So
here
is
a
picture
of
the
proposed
Lots.
Basically
splitting
the
property
right
down
the
middle.
You
can
see
that
there's
a
large
Idaho
Power
easement,
as
well
as
a
Boise
project
board
of
control,
easement
that
they'll
have
to
work
around
as
they
construct
their
project.
They
do
have
approval
from
both
entities.
They
just
have
to
observe
the
easements
as
they
prepare
to
build
all
reviewing.
Agencies
approve
the
project
with
standard
conditions,
and
there
were
no
comments.
A
P
Madam,
chair,
Commissioners
I
think
they
are
seeing
that
as
a
recommendation.
They
don't
have
them
in
the
existing
home
they're,
not
technically
required.
We
would
evaluate
that
with
a
building
permit,
but
in
speaking
with
the
applicant
and
I
should
note
that
the
applicant
unfortunately
was
available
last
week
and
because
we
had
to
table
everything
they
are
out
of
town
and
unable
to
speak
to
you.
They
did
state
that
they're
in
agreement
with
all
of
the
conditions
placed
on
the
project.
P
But
I
meant
to
share
that
at
the
beginning
of
the
presentation.
They
are
still
making
up
their
mind
about
the
fire
sprinklers
for
the
new
single
family
home.
And
if
you
read
that
letter
from
Meridian
fire,
it
is
a
recommendation
not
a
requirement.
So.
P
Problems
in
there,
okay,
yeah
I'm,
sure
it's
nitrate,
priority
area,
County
Engineers
recommended
Wells,
be
150
feet
deep
again
and
that's
a
recommendation
not
a
requirement,
so
they'll
coordinate
with
idwr
on
the
actual
well
permit,
and
then
they
do
recommend
water
testing
due
to
higher
than
normal
levels
of
uranium.
Arsenic
and
I
can't
remember
the
third
one
that
we
always
nitrates.
Well,
nitrates
yeah.
What
was
yeah
anyways
water
testing
will
be
a
regular
requirement.
Okay,.
P
A
Okay,
so
I
don't
think
then
anyone
is
here
to
testify.
So
we're
going
to
go
ahead
then
and
close
the
public
hearing
on
two
zero,
two:
two:
zero
one:
four,
three:
three
s:
Gary
Host
Club.
What's
the
pleasure
of
the
board.
C
So
Madam
chair
I'm,
going
to
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion
to
approve
application.
Number
two:
zero:
two:
two:
zero
one:
four:
three:
three
s:
Gary
holzclone,
based
on
the
findings
of
fact
and
conclusions
of
law
contained
in
the
staff
report
and
the
testimony
heard
tonight.
A
Okay,
all
those
in
favor
stayed
aye
all
right,
all
right,
all
right.
The
eyes
have
it
motion
carries.
Thank
you
all
right.
Next,
up
we're
going
to
open
the
public
hearing
on
two
zero,
two:
two
zero
one,
four,
two:
seven
s
foxland
surveys
and
once
again
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
start
with
our
staff,
Leon
lutzen
and
then
we'll
move
to
the
applicant.
P
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair
Commissioners.
So
this
is
another
two
lot
subdivision
this
was
in
this
one
is
in
the
rural
residential
district
property
is
located
at
2275,
East
Deer,
Flat
Road.
The
proposed
Lots
again
meet
the
dimensional
standards
of
the
RR
district
and
they
will
take
direct
access
to
East,
Deer,
Flat
Road
and,
as
you
can
see
here,
the
sub
property
has
again
an
existing
home
on
it.
So
they're
creating
a
an
additional
lot
for
another
new
single
family
home
patient
here
is
the
proposed
preliminary
plat.
P
All
reviewing
agencies
did
approve
the
project
with
standard
conditions
and
we
did
not
receive
any
comments
from
the
public,
particularly
none
that
were
opposed
to
the
project,
so
staff
is
recommending
approval
and
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
also
recommended
approval
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
A
L
Q
I
did
my
name
is
Leslie
prenville
I'm
with
Rodney
Evans
and
partners
I'm
an
applicant
or
representative
of
the
property
owner
I,
don't
have
anything
to
add
to
Mr
Watson's
statement,
but
the
owner
has
reviewed
the
conditions
of
approval
and
they
are
in
agreement
with
all
conditions
and
terms
of
this
time.
With
that
being
said,
I
will
stand
for
any.
A
Commissioner,
Beck
no
questions,
okay,
I
would
just
comment
once
again:
Meridian
fire
district,
weighed
in
and
probably
preferable
just
for
the
safety
of
the
residents
that
they
do
put
in
fire
sprinklers.
So
that's
all
we
would
recommend
as
well,
and
that
is
just
a
recommendation.
A
No
okay,
Leslie
did
you
have
anything
else
to
add
no
I,
don't
let's
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing,
then
on
two
zero,
two,
two
zero
one,
four
two,
seven
s,
foxland
surveys
and
I
will
take
a
motion
or
deliberation.
C
Well,
Madam,
chair,
I
think
it's
pretty
straightforward
and
so
I'm
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion
to
approve
application.
Number
202-201-427-s,
foxland,
surveying
Inc,
based
on
the
findings
of
fact
and
conclusions
and
law
contained
in
the
staff
report.
The
testimony
heard
this
evening,
I.
A
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Yes,
that
is
correct
application.
F
202201561-S
says
Noble
Landing
subdivision
applicant
is
Dan
Noble.
So
here's
the
vicinity,
map
of
the
property
kind
of
Southwest
of
kuna
area
McDermott
and
King
Road
intersection
right
there
on
the
Ada
County
Canyon
County
boundary
is
an
Ariel
at
the
side
as
well.
So
this
is
once
again
another
two
lot
subdivision.
This
is
a
preliminary
plaque
for
the
subdivision.
Property
is
located
at
4640.
West
King
Road
contains
a
total
of
50
acres
in
the
rural
residential
or
RR
District.
F
Here's
the
preliminary
plaque
proposed
here.
So
it's
a
two
buildable
rural
residential
lots.
Both
lots
are
going
to
be
a
minimum
of
10
acres
to
meet
the
RR
lot
size
minimum
lot.
One
will
maintain
existing
axis
in
front
of
John
to
McDermott
Road
and
King.
Road
and
Lot
2
will
have
front
engine
axis
onto
McDermott.
F
A
subdivision
complies
with
chapter
8-6
of
the
Ada
County
code,
since
the
proposed
Lots
will
meet
the
dimensional
standards
for
the
RR
districts,
the
properties
in
unincorporated
Ada
County
within
Kunis
area,
City,
Impact
B,
so
we're
looking
at
the
Ada
County
comprehensive
plan.
Future
land
use
map
for
land
use
decisions
that
future
land
use
maps
on
the
screen.
The
site
is
designated
as
agricultural
irrigated,
which
is
generally
we're
looking
at
primary
uses
as
agriculture,
but
resonances
as
a
secondary
use,
and
so
since
the
Lots
will
be
over
10
acres
and
conducive
to
agricultural
uses.
F
Subdivision
is
also
compatible
with
the
land
use
map
we
had.
You
know,
PNC
commission
recommended
approval
and
staff
is
also
recommending
approval
with
conditions.
I
will
note
the
Ada
County
engineer
and
you
should
have
been
provided
this.
The
Ada
County
engineer
provided
a
exhibit.
This
was
entered
in
as
a
late
exhibit,
but
it's
just
stating
that
the
existing
home,
the
domestic
welder,
should
be
tested
for
nitrates
and
then
also
any
new
wells
will
most
likely
need
to
be
a
deaths
greater
than
200
feet.
Thank.
A
A
I
have
a
quick
question
for
you,
so
this
will
the
final
flat
will
need
to
have
the
right
to
farm
act
on
it
as.
F
A
S
Yes,
thank
you
yeah.
This
is
a
Dan
Noble
I'm.
My
address
is
204
South
Cedar,
Point,
Avenue,
Nampa,
Idaho
and
I
heard
the
recommendations
we
are
accepting
of
those
recommendations.
S
This
property,
my
dad
John
Noble,
passed
away
in
October
of
2020
and
and
the
the
property
come
under
the
direction
of
the
of
a
family,
trust
and
I'm,
the
trustee
of
that
Family
Trust.
He
has
had
190
Acres
it's
hard
to
satisfy
15
beneficiaries
without
selling
property
and
we've
we're
sold
that
property
in
various
transactions
to
a
arm
operation
and
and
we
will
be
selling
the
40
acres
as
well.
S
It's
a
part
of
this
project
that
10
acres
will
be
acquired
by
a
family
member,
along
with
the
the
gentleman
that
Farms
all
this
property.
So
everything
will
remain
in
its
present
use
and
continue
to
be.
A
C
Well,
Madam
chair:
it's
pretty
non-controversial
application,
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion
to
approve
application
number.
C
C
A
Aye
bye,
all
right,
we've
got
three
eyes
motion
carries.
Thank
you
all
right
here
we
go
last
but
not
least,
right
is
this.
The
last
one.
T
A
That's
what
you're
all
here
for
okay!
Here
we
go:
we're
going
to
open
the
public
hearing
on
200-60071
c
c
d,
a
m
and
202201-253
MSP,
Peg
companies
or
Peg
companies
and
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
start
with
our
staff
report.
Then
we'll
open
it
up
to
the
applicant
for
15
minutes.
Everyone
that
wants
to
provide
testimony
will
have
up
to
three
minutes
and
then
we'll
give
the
applicant
a
five
minute
rebuttal
at
the
end
of
that.
So
we'll
go
ahead
and
start
with
you,
Connor
and
government.
F
2006-00071-Zc
d,
a
dash
M
and
202201253-
MSP,
the
applicant
is
paid
companies,
so
this
is
well
first,
we'll
start
with
the
vicinity
map.
So
you
know
where
we
are
Lake
Hazel,
Five,
Mile,
intersection,
Southwest
Boise
area
over
on
the
southwest
corner
of
that
intersection
is
the
subject
property.
F
It
was
mentioned
at
the
planning
zoning
commission.
There
was
a
discrepancy
with
the
addressing
of
this
property.
There's
actually
two
Parcels
here,
so
there's
a
tiny
little
sliver
of
parts.
That's
on
the
very
western
part
of
this,
this
red
polygon
here
then
there's
a
larger
parcel.
So
the
small
parcel
is
addressed
off
of
the
West
Lake
Hazel.
For
some
reason,
it's
probably
used
to
be
a
part
of
the
larger
piece
and
then
the
larger
parcel
there
is
addressed
off
of
Five
Mile.
F
It's
in
section
three
Township.
Two
North
range
one
East,
so
back
in
2006,
the
Board
of
Commissioners
approved
Hazelwood,
Village
Development,
and
this
was
a
plan
unit
development
in
in
the
Pud
overlay
districts,
and
so
this
allowed
flexibility
and
site
design
and
dimensional
standards.
So,
since
2006
this
property,
the
subject
property,
the
large
portion
of
here-
has
been
zoned
to
C2
and
it
has
sat
vacant
since
that
approval.
The
applicant
proposes
to
rezone
yeah
this
11.23
acre
parcel
from
C2
to
R12
and
then
that
small
0.17
acre
from
the
R8
to
the
r12..
F
F
The
the
subject
property
or
the
project
is
a
development
called
Allante
Homes
at
Lockwood,
and
so,
as
noted
in
the
the
developers,
application
and
their
detail
letter,
they
proposed
130
units
for
a
density
of
10.98
units
per
acre.
It'll
include
51
bedrooms,
63,
2
bedroom
and
17
three-bedroom
homes,
it'll
be
a
mixture
of
attached
and
detached
homes,
each
with
a
private
yard
and
Patio,
and
then
there
will
also
be
Landscaping
in
place
as
well.
F
They
also
propose,
if
I
go
to
the
next
slide
here,
I'm
in
the
kind
of
the
I
don't
know:
Central
East
quadrant,
there's
a
proposed
Clubhouse
and
pool
small
little
open
space
area
and
then
throughout
the
development
they
plan
on
providing
Drive
aisles,
sidewalks
and
Pathways.
The
applicant
has
also
planned
to
continue
the
existing
pathway
at
the
very
southwest
corner
of
the
site,
along
the
Cunningham
lateral
to
provide
access
to
the
property
to
the
north
of
commercial
property
to
the
north,
so
all
units
will
be
released
by
Peg
Property
Group.
F
Oh
sorry,
let
me
go
back
here,
so
the
the
landscape
plan.
This
is
a
landscape
and
parking
plan.
It
does
meet
the
requirements
that
Ada
County
code
they're,
proposing
5.4
Acres
of
open
space,
which
is
48
of
the
site
and
that
exceeds
the
30
open
space
requirement
for
multi-family
developments,
and
then
the
county
code
also
requires
a
total
of
268
parking
spaces
that
they're
going
to
surpass
with
297
proposed
spaces.
F
This
will
include
both
indoor
and
then
eight
Ada
spaces,
I'm,
sorry
outdoor
spaces,
eight
Ada
spaces
and
42
enclosed
indoor
garage
spaces,
a
lighting
plan
as
a
deferred
submittal.
At
this
time,
it'll
be
a
condition
of
approval
for
any
street
lights
or
outdoor
lights
they
propose
the
site
will
be
served
by
Boise,
sewer
and
violia
water.
It
is
a
condition
of
approval
that
violia
water
provides.
It
will
serve
letter
so,
as
you
may
have
known,
they're
a
strong
opposition
from
Neighbors
Southwest
Ada,
County
Alliance,
the
neighborhood
association,
as
well
as
the
city
of
Boise.
F
Some
of
the
concerns
are,
you
know,
just
in
general.
Folks
would
like
to
the
property
to
maintain
that
commercial
designation
that
zoning
designation
to
allow,
for
you
know
future
restaurants,
grocery
box
stores.
So
have
you
and
then
also
concerns
with
apartment
style,
living
and
potential?
You
know
increases
in
traffic
or
nuisances
that
that
might
bring
also
concerns
over
a
loss
of
connectivity
to
the
adjacent
properties
to
the
north,
to
the
West
also
concerns
with
these
folks
that
are
moving
in
utilizing
the
HOA
amenities
to
the
West.
F
They
are
in
support
of
the
of
the
project,
but
they
do
have
some
specific
conditions.
One
of
those
is
they're
looking
for
additional
access
onto
Five,
Mile
Road,
so
that
let
me
go
forward
here.
So
the
Ada
County
community
and
Regional
planner
that
we
have
in
our
office
noted
that
the
property
is
within
Boise's
comprehensive
plan,
and
that's
why
Boise
did
provide
comment
on
this
application.
F
It's
in
their
impact
area,
and
so
it
designates
the
site
that
that
future
Lane
East
map
designates
the
site
as
mixed
use
and
mixed
use
is
intended
to
include
commercial
office
and
high
density
residential
development.
Now
the
future
land
use
map
here
also
identifies
the
property
as
being
within
a
community
Activity
Center.
That's
that
little
red
node.
You
see
there
and
so
Community
activity.
Centers
there's
you
know,
support
high
density
residential
development
as
a
primary
use
and
they
like
to
see
densities
as
high
as
up
to
20
units
per
acre.
F
F
At
this
time,
Hazelwood
Village
and
Lake
Hazel
and
Five
Mile
Community
Activity
Center,
specifically
on
that
Southwest
part
of
the
activity
center,
does
not
include
any
multi-family
development
at
this
time.
So
the
planning
zoning
commission
did
hear
this
at
the
last
hearing.
They
are
recommending
denial
of
the
project
because
it
does
not
comply
with
the
Boise
comprehensive
plan.
P
Will
say
we
have
acht
on
a
call
if
you
have
specific
questions
regarding
their
review
or
transmission.
I
know.
That
was
something
that
wanted
to
discuss,
so
we
could
make
them
available.
Okay,.
C
P
F
Madam
chair
commissioner
Davidson,
that
is
correct.
They
had
some
specific
conditions
regarding
improvements,
and
you
know
they
also
have
future
plans
for
this
area.
Five,
Mile,
Lake
Hazel
proposed
projects
so,
and
there
were
questions
from
planning
zoning
commissions.
You
know,
or
the
pnz
commission
too,
about
what
the
future
holds
for
this
area
and
achd
can
probably
answer
those
questions
as
well.
A
U
Hi,
it's
a
privilege
to
be
here.
Let's
see
if
I
can
show
my
face,
that
I
don't
know
if
it'll,
let
me
there
it.
U
To
see
you,
it's
good
to
see
all
of
you-
hey
yes,
I'm
here
to
just
for
the
record
senior
Transportation
planner
with
achd,
just
to
provide
any
insight
onto
this
I
do
have
a
staff
report
before
me,
however,
and
I
will
answer
the
questions
the
best
I
can
I
was
not
the
staff
reviewer
on
this.
We
rather
we
are
the
liaison
from
the
planning
division,
but
certainly
can
do
the
best
I
can
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
Okay,.
A
Thank
you,
I,
don't
know
if
you've
had
the
chance
to
read
any
of
the
input
from
Neighbors,
we'll
probably
be
hearing
a
lot
of
testimony
tonight,
but
I
was
reading
through
those
there's
a
number
of
people
that
are
opposed
to
this,
mainly
for
the
Ingress
egress
problems
that
they
could.
This
could
pose.
So
could
you
walk
us
through
achd's
suggestions
to
alleviate
some
of
that
or,
if
there's
there
needs
to
be
some
pretty
major
construction
here.
U
Well,
thank
you,
commissioner
Ken
Kenyan
and
the
other
Commissioners
I'm,
going
to
read
directly
from
the
staff
report.
So
we
don't
get
too
far
off
of
what
was
recommended
from
the
reviewing
party,
but
what
they
are
and
what
we
are
suggesting
as
a
recommendation
is
that
they
do
consider
an
additional
driveway
access
onto
Five,
Mile
being
about
425
feet,
south
of
Lake
Hazel
Road
Road,
in
a
lime
of
the
Albertsons
commercial
driveway.
U
We
do
believe
that
this
will
provide
an
additional
access.
We
are
willing
to
go
into
a
Cooperative
development
agreement
with
the
applicant.
Should
this
be
something
that
they'd
like
to
consider
and
truly,
we
do
believe
that
would
provide
that
additional
access
to
this
location
while
alleviating
some
of
the
other
access
points
other
than
that
there
isn't
too
much
more
to
provide
the
you
know.
As
you
were
well
aware,
there
are
several
enhancements
that
we
anticipate
in
this
area.
U
Well,
it
says
provide
us
that
additional
access
to
that
commercial
facilities
off
of
it.
So
if
we
are
going
to
have
development
in
the
area,
this
is
that
additional
access
that,
if
the
commercial
as
well
as
this
residential
area,
would
like
to
use
it.
We
prefer
that
to
be
the
location,
it
is
a
recommendation
from
the
reviewing
body
here
at
achd
that
this
is
something
that
they
should
consider,
but
certainly
this
is
something
that
they
would
have
to
kind
of
come
into
an
agreement
with
achd
regarding.
A
U
U
Between
the
two
sites,
this
could
be
part
of
our
larger
intersection
project.
When
the
intersection
moves
forward
oftentimes,
we
don't
provide
direct
access
onto
minor
arterials.
However,
as
part
of
this
intersection,
Improvement
is
in
additional
access
that
we
could
provide,
and
it
is
a
driveway
access,
approximately
30
feet
that
we
can
go
into
an
agreement
with
with.
N
U
Well,
there
is
an
intersection,
Improvement
and
I
was
trying
to
pull
that
up
and
while
I
recognize
that
you
believe
that
there's
a
roundabout,
the
designers
in
2024,
so
it's
a
future
future
years
out.
It
is
an
intersection
whitening
project
to
accommodate
the
additional
Lake
Hazel.
Anything
that's
going
to
occur.
Is
it
a
roundabout
or
is
an
intersection?
Unfortunately,
I'm
not
able
to
speak
to
that
Leon
did
mention,
it
is
around
about
I
haven't
been
in
touch
with
Seth,
who
is
the
project
manager,
but
it
is
anticipated
for
design
year
of
2024.
A
U
Then
this
project-
oh
pardon
me,
go
ahead.
Yeah
I'm,
sorry,
commissioner
Kenyon,
so
this
project
at
this
conditional,
this
agreement
with
the
developer
be
put
into
place.
Those
were
all
things
into
consideration
as
we
move
that
project
forward.
A
Thank
you
and
my
understanding
is:
there
would
be
no
sidewalks
on
the
applicant
side,
the
west
side
on
Five
Mile.
U
If
you're
just
giving
one
quick
moment
in
to
look
into
our
agreement
here
that
we
have
with
I'm
sorry
staff
review.
A
U
Certainly,
commissioner
Kenyan,
our
existing
conditions
show
that
there's
a
six
foot
wide
detached
concrete
pathway
in
place
that
does
abut
the
site.
Should
any
construction
occur
in
this
area.
We
would
do
ask
that
that
be
put
back
in
place
to
ensure
that
there's
pedestrian
connectivity,
a
bike
and
pedestrian
connectivity
through
this
Corridor,
because
there's
enhancements
that
we
anticipate
into
the
future
there's
not
requirement
at
this
time.
C
U
F
Davidson,
this
is
a
recommendation
at
this
time,
so
I
I
have
not
seen
the
exact
plans.
This
might
be
a
better
image
for
you.
I,
don't
know
Brooke.
If
you
want
to
elaborate
on
where
that
would
go.
U
Yes,
if
you
and
commissioner
Davidson
so
we're
looking
400
and
approximately
458
feet
south
of
Lake
Hazel,
and
so,
if
you
look
to
where
the
existing
commercial
property
exists,
we're
looking
at
that
shared
space,
that's
actually
the
Albertsons
and
that's
where
they
are
making
the
recommend,
and
it
is
just
a
recommendation
they're
making
the
recommendation
to
align
with
the
already
existing
Albertsons
commercial
driveway.
That
is
east
of
five
miles,
so
so
I'm
guessing
approximately.
Where
that
red
line
approximately
yes.
F
Right
in
here,
yeah,
okay,
and
the
reason
why
you
don't
see
it
on
this
site
plan
is
this
is
what
was
submitted
by
the
applicant
that
achd
came
forward
with
their
report
and
recommendations.
So
you
know
until
this
is
approved,
we're
not
going
to
have
an
updated
site
plan
that
reflects
what
they're
proposing
is
that
that
makes
sense,
and
maybe
the
applicant
has
they
probably
have
a
plan
of
what
this
would
look
like
too
any.
A
V
Evening,
Madam,
chair
and
members
of
the
commission,
I'm
Bonnie
Clayton
I
am
with
nv5
I'm
a
senior
planner
located
at
South
industry
way
at
690
South
industry
way
in
Meridian
Idaho
with
me
tonight,
also
I'm
going
to
try
to
keep
this
brief.
I
know
that
we're
on
a
limited.
V
V
Here
we
have
that
just
as
a
reference,
but
we're
going
to
be
going
mostly
through
the
presentation.
That's
up
on
the
screen.
Okay,.
A
V
And
that
image
is
also
part
of
our
presentation,
so
you'll
see
it
there
as
well.
So
again,
thank
you
for
your
time
this
evening,
we're
here
tonight
to
request
approval
of
our
Allante
Homes
at
Lockwood.
It's
a
multi-family
project,
a
horizontal
multi-family
Patio,
Home
Project,
located
near
the
intersection
of
Five,
Mile
and
Lake
Hazel
and
Connor.
If
you
could
thank
you
so
as
I
mentioned
at
the
corner
of
Lake
Hazel
and
Five
Mile,
we
are
in
the
county.
V
You
can
see
that
Meridian
is
to
our
West
and
there's
a
tiny
bit
of
Boise
city
limits
to
our
East,
but
generally
we
are
in
an
area
of
the
county
that
is
largely
Bend
developed
with
subdivisions.
So
it's
largely
built
out
there's
just
a
few
Parcels
left.
It's
mostly
lower,
dense
density
residential
next
slide,
please!
V
So
originally,
as
you
heard,
this
project
was
entitled
in
2006,
there's
quite
a
bit
of
history
that
goes
with
this
site.
I,
believe
you
have
in
your
packet
a
letter
from
Mr
Tucker
Johnson
who's
also
here
tonight,
to
testify
and
provide
some
more
history
to
the
site.
Generally
speaking,
what
you
see
is
that
our
site
is
11.4
acres.
V
In
response
to
some
of
the
comments
that
we
received
at
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission,
we
have
made
some
modifications
proposed
modifications
to
our
site
plan
to
reduce
the
number
of
units
from
130
to
128
and
that's
in
response
to
increasing
the
open
space
near
the
clubhouse,
as
well
as
the
one
of
the
park
areas
in
our
Northern
corner
and
what
that
does.
It
also
increases
the
number
of
parking
units
per
or
parking
spaces
per
unit
on
the
site.
Next
slide,
please
Connor!
V
So
really
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
provide
a
different
type
of
fixing
option.
As
you
heard
Connor
say,
there
is
very
limited
housing
in
this
area
very
limited
next
to
no
multi-family.
This
is
a
rental
option
that
is
a
higher
quality
independent
units,
just
something
different
than
a
traditional
three-story
walk-up.
V
V
It's
a
premium
amenity
package,
we're
professionally
managed
on
site
and
really
it's
a
convenient
maintenance-free
living
for
folks
that
maybe
choose
not
to
take
care
of
your
yard,
but
don't
necessarily
want
to
be
in
a
traditional
apartment.
Building
that
next
slide,
please
Connor,
and
so
what
you'll
see
is.
This
is
our
original
site
plan.
So
we've
got
a
connection
to
the
existing
pathway,
that's
kind
of
on
the
southwest
corner,
as
well
as
connecting
up
through
the
approved
future
pathway.
V
There
was
a
project
that
recently
came
before
you
for
an
extension
of
an
approval,
for
it
was
a
rezone
from
residential
to
commercial
kind
of
on
the
northwest
area
of
our
site,
so
we're
connecting
into
that
pathway.
We're
also
providing
a
proposed
neighborhood
pathway,
connection
from
our
that
would
pull
the
western
boundary
pathway
over
to
the
commercial
area.
V
So
talking
about
providing
that
pedestrian
connection
for
folks
that
doesn't
currently
exist
in
this
site
and
then
also
we've
got
micro
Pathways
throughout
the
community,
as
I
mentioned
a
clubhouse
with
a
pool,
a
fitness
center,
a
leasing
office,
a
pedestrian
connection
out
to
Five,
Mile
and
enhancements
and
pedestrian
connection
along
Five
Mile
I'll
get
into
that
discussion
briefly
in
just
a
minute.
Next
slide,
please!
V
So,
as
I
mentioned,
we
took
the
comments
from
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
that
we
heard
there
were
some
concerns
that
maybe
we
needed
a
little
bit
more
open
space
for
our
residents.
As
Connor
mentioned,
we
far
exceed
what
the
County's
minimum
requirements
are,
and
so
the
two
circles
on
this
slide
show
the
locations
of
where
we
remove
the
units.
V
We
removed
two
two
bedroom
units
from
the
project
to
allow
for
a
larger
Clubhouse
and
Activity
Center
there,
as
well
as
in
our
kind
of
Northern
Corner,
a
larger
Park
area,
keeping
all
the
other
same
same
connections
throughout
the
site.
Next
slide,
please,
and
since
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission,
we
went
ahead
and
created
some
3D
images
of
what
those
spaces
actually
look
like
I.
V
Please
These
are
3D
images
of
the
clubhouse
that
we
are
proposing,
like
I,
said
a
highly
amenitized
clubhouse,
as
well
as
a
pool
with
a
patio
deck
and
a
play
structure,
just
really
a
great
Community,
Gathering
Place,
that's
above
or
Beyond
a
lot
of
multi-family
projects
that
you
see
developed
these
days
next
slide,
please
so
as
part
of
our
submittal.
I
won't
spend
a
whole
bunch
of
time
on
this,
but
we
did
submit
a
complete
package
of
floor
plans
and
elevations
for
the
homes
that
we
are
planning
to
build.
V
I
have
those
if
we
need
to
refer
to
them,
but
I
won't
spend
too
much
time
on
those
next
slide.
Please
the
unit
types
as
I
mentioned.
They
are
detached
patio
homes.
We
have
some
attached
duet
patio
homes,
they're
one
and
two
story:
enclosed
private
patio,
spaces,
surface
parking
as
well
as
detached
parking
next
slide,
and
the
units
are
one
to
three
bedroom
units.
They
are
700
to
1500
square
feet,
so
a
nice
family
sized
home
for
folks
that
are
singles
to
all
the
way
to
empty
nesters.
V
V
The
heart
of
our
community
is
really
the
community
amenities
that
we
are
providing.
As
I
mentioned,
we
are
professionally
managed
and
the
clubhouse
really
becomes
the
center
of
that
community.
So
we
have,
with
the
clubhouse
a
pool,
a
fitness
center,
a
lot
of
common
areas
that
are
professionally
managed
and
maintained.
A
dog
park,
exercise
stations,
Regional
walking
path
and
micro
Pathways
throughout
the
community,
really
a
place
where
people
can
really
feel
comfortable
as
part
of
a
community.
Next
slide.
V
So
I
know
that
there
has
been
a
lot
of
conversation
focused
on
the
location
and
what
should
be
developed
here
and
what
this
site
should
or
shouldn't
be.
As
Conor
mentioned,
this
project
was
entitled,
it's
been
16
years
now,
and
this
site
was
originally
designated
as
a
commercial
site.
Next
slide,
please,
in
looking
at
the
comprehensive
plan
for
the
city
of
Boise,
we
see
that
this
is
a
mixed
use
area,
as
well
as
a
community
activity
area.
That's
what
it's
designated
as
not
just
our
parcel
but
Parcels
to
the
north
of
us.
V
V
So
again
we
reviewed
the
area,
demographics
for
the
comprehensive
plan
and
next
slide.
I
won't
spend
too
much
time
on
that.
What
we
also
did
is
we
distilled
down
the
information
from
the
city
of
Boise
Almanac,
and
so
we
actually
keyed
in
all
of
those
metrics
from
all
of
the
neighborhoods
to
see.
Where
does
this
area?
Where
does
this
neighborhood
rank
in
terms
of
things
like
product
diversification
density?
V
What
really
makes
a
community
vibrant
and
viable,
and
so
if
we
look
at
Boise's,
North
End,
for
example,
that's
kind
of
for
a
lot
of
folks,
the
gold
standard
of
commercial
and
residential
you'll
see
that
they
have
a
mix
of
housing
types.
They
have
a
lot
higher
density
than
we
have
at
next
slide.
Please
Conor
it'll
be
easier
to
see
so
you'll
see
in
this
area.
V
Southwest
data,
County,
Alliance
94
of
the
homes,
are
single
family,
very
low
density,
1.78
units
per
acre
contrast
that,
with
the
North
End,
where
there's
a
much
more
diverse
type
of
housing,
as
well
as
units
per
Acres
higher
and
residents
per
acre,
is
higher.
The
less
district
is
at
the
highest
density
in
the
city
of
Boise,
and
when
you
look
at
that,
so
trying
to
trying
to
understand
commercial
demand
and
what's
appropriate
for
the
area.
V
So
let's
see
how
does
that
all
play
in
I'm
running
David
out
of
time
here,
I
apologize,
so
we
looked
at
next
slide.
Please
we
looked
at
what's
available
for
commercial
area.
That's
adjacent!
That's
highly
visible
to
the
roadways,
both
Five
Mile
and
Lake
Hazel.
There's
a
vacant
pad
that's
out
in
front
of
Albertsons.
It's
got
a
taco
truck.
It
hasn't
been
developed
for
years.
Mcdonald's
just
went
in
on
the
northwest
corner,
still
a
lot
of
room
available
for
commercial
development
right
at
this
intersection,
that's
highly
visible
from
those
roads.
V
Next
slide,
please
and
then
in
looking.
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
last
time
about
the
services
in
the
area
and
this
slide
we
can
visit
again.
If,
if
you
have
questions
on
next
slide,
please
there
was
also
questions
about
the
achd
plan.
So
in
2018
achd
did
a
very
comprehensive
plan.
A
workshop
and
I've
got
a
couple
of
images
from
that,
so
they
had
looked
at
four
different
roundabout
designs
and
then
had
landed
on
a
signalized
intersection.
That's
what
we
developed
our
plan
to.
V
We
did
receive
the
comments
from
achd
and
in
conversations
with
them
we
said
we
are
willing
to
work
with
you
to
look
at
addressing
the
comment
with
the
access
off
of
Five
Mile
that
wasn't
part
of
the
original
plan
that
we
were
going
off
of
The
Guiding
documents
we're
happy
to
do
that,
but
we
wanted
to
get
a
little
bit
further
down.
We
said
if
we
have
a
viable
project,
we're
definitely
going
to
do
that.
V
W
W
W
We
have
a
pretty
solid
history
of
building
a
lot
of
products
within
Utah,
as
well
as
the
Mountain
West.
As
our
Focus.
We
also
have
a
number
of
projects
that
we've
built
nationally.
The
purpose
behind
this
project
is
houses
of,
is
home.
Prices
have
skyrocketed
not
just
nationally,
but
specifically
in
Boise.
More
and
more
people
are
renting,
but
the
options
and
the
types
of
products
available
to
those
people
who
really
help
as
much.
This
is
a
unique
rental
product.
As
Miss
Layton
mentioned,
there's
no
one
who
lives
above
or
below
you.
W
W
It
is
a
much
more
user-friendly
multi-family
development
that
blends
itself
well
in
a
Suburban
neighborhood
like
this
much
more
so
than
a
three-story.
You
know
walk-up
high
density
apartment,
complex,
there's
been
some
concerns
that
as
an
out-of-state
developer,
we
don't
have.
We
don't
share
the
interests
of
the
community
as
a
rental
unit
that
we
would
be
or
Rental
Community,
that
we
would
be
managing
ourselves
we
actually
and
as
a
premium
product.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
it
maintains
and
looks
like
a
premium
product.
W
We
don't
have
the
ability
to
buy
it,
build
it
and
then
sell
it,
we'll
be
managing
it
and
making
sure
that
it's
maintained
and
looks
like
a
rental
Pro
or
a
premium
product.
The
whole
time
I
think
the
the
other
concern
that
some
people
have
when
there's
a
out-of-state
developer.
Is
that
we're
taking
money
from
the
state
I
think
the
the
opposite
is
true,
while
we're
the
developers-
and
we
are
in
Utah
all
of
our
contractors-
subcontractors
attorneys
Engineers,
who
just
spoke,
are
local.
We're
investing
in
this
state
and
I
I.
W
Don't
want
to
spend
too
much
time
talking
about
the
financial
setups
of
this
other
than
to
say
we're
a
fairly
well
respected
developer
in
the
area,
and
we
have
the
trust
of
a
lot
of
investment
investors
who
include
large
Public,
Employee,
Pension
funds,
some
large
charitable
foundations
and
University
endowments
our
investors
in
this
project.
As
well,
I
think
what
I
do
want
to
talk
about
is
I.
Think
one
of
the
big
concerns
is
what
should
be
used
on
this
property.
W
It
has
been
an
empty
lot
for
the
past
16
years
since
Hazelwood
Village
has
gone
in
during
that
time,
the
owner
has
not
received
a
single
viable
offer
from
anyone
who
is
looking
to
build
a
commercial
product
in
that
space.
I
think
that
holds
true
as
far
as
I
know.
Today,
there's
no
one
here
coming
and
saying:
don't
let
them
build
this
because
I
want
to
build
a
commercial
space,
I
think
oftentimes.
When
a
developer
comes
before
a
board,
they
have
a
little
bit
of
a
bias.
W
They
say
the
best
thing
that
should
be
built
here
is
what
I'm
good
at
building.
That's
not
the
case
here,
because
we
also
have
experience
building
industrial,
commercial,
restaurants,
hotels
and
multi-family.
We're
suggesting
this,
because
this
is
the
best
product
for
this
area
an
amount
of
time.
Thank
you.
So
much
for.
W
This
is
a
complicated
and
I
think
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
questions
and
concerns
with
it,
and
I
would
like
to
just
make
myself
open
to
additional
questions,
as
you
have
more
specifics
on
the
project.
Thank.
K
A
C
Sure
so
you
know
Boise
City's,
you
know
not
doesn't
seem
to
be
a
fan
of
this
because
it
doesn't
meet
what
they
want
to
see
in
their
impact
area,
and
it
sounded
like
you
tried
to
address
that
by
comparing
it
to
Hyde
Park,
but
I
mean
come
on.
Hyde
Park
is
for
the
community
at
large.
This
looks
like
it's
solely
for
the
residents
of
the
development.
So
could
you
address
that
I'll.
W
Go
first,
then,
you
go
I
think
there
were
a
couple.
We
went
and
met
with
the
city
of
Boise
after
their
letter
to
see
if
we
could
understand
what
they
were
looking
for.
There
were
a
couple
specific
things
that
they
wanted.
They
wanted
in
the
area
where
it
is
multi-use.
They
wanted
every
single
parcel
to
have
multiple
uses.
W
We
disagreed
with
that
overall
interpretation.
I
think
staff
disagreed
with
that
as
well.
They
also
wanted
to
see
a
higher
density
product
in
here
20
units,
an
acre
which
is
about
double
what
we're
proposing.
W
We
think
this
level
of
density,
while
still
a
higher
density
product
by
residential
standards.
It
provides
additional
supply
of
housing
in
a
very
constrained
housing
market,
with
while
blending
more
appropriately
in
a
suburban
area.
If
this
is
denied
we'll
probably
resubmit
something
that
follows
more
closely
with
what
the
Boise
City
recommends
in
terms
of
density.
V
And
if
I
could
just
clarify,
commissioner,
so
when
we
in
looking
at
those
numbers,
what
I
meant
was
it's
not
a
design
of
Hyde
Park?
It's
looking
at
the
number
of
rooftops
and
the
number
of
residents
in
a
certain
area
that
support
the
commercial,
so
I
think
you
have
a
letter
in
your
package
from
Mr
Valentine
with
Tok.
They
manage
9
million
square
feet
of
commercial
and
industrial
space.
V
They
actually
have
listed
the
pad
out
front
that
has
the
taco
truck
out
front
of
Albertsons
really
in
in
that
letter,
it
echoes
really
what
we
are
seeing
as
well,
that
rooftops
Drive
the
need
for
commercial-
and
this
is
just
very
sparsely
populated
at
this
point.
Adding
a
small
component
of
density
will
help
make
the
businesses
that
are
already
there
more
profitable.
It
may
eventually
entice
make.
C
This,
let
me
just
say
so:
I
mean
I'm,
sure
people
are
thinking
well
or
Boise's
thinking.
You
know
you
want
to
have
little
little
shops
in
there.
You
want
to
have
live,
work,
create
you
know,
artist,
studio
on
the
ground,
floor,
coffee
shop
with
the
ground
floor,
people
living
up
top
there.
You
know
you
didn't
seem
to
incorporate
that
at
all.
You
know.
Obviously
the
trend
is
people.
You
know
just
want
to
walk
to
their
amenities,
not
have
to
get
in
the
car
and
drive
so
maybe
address
that.
W
I
can
dress,
I
mean
I'll,
address
it,
and
then
you
jump
in
I
love
the
idea
of
live
work.
I
I,
some
of
my
favorite
cities
to
visit
around
the
world
incorporate
that
really
well.
W
I
have
not
seen
that
incorporated
very
well
in
a
way
that
economically
meant
makes
sense
in
most
new
developments,
especially
in
Suburban
settings
I
can
think
of
a
really
dense
urban
area
in
Seattle.
That
works
really
well,
some
parts
of
New
York,
it
looks
great
London
and
Paris
are
probably
ideals.
W
It
I
think
a
lot
of
planners,
especially
some
urban
city
developers
like
to
incorporate
and
like
to
force
that
on
developers,
I
love
it
in
Concept
in
practice
it
very
seldom
Works.
Usually
you
have
some
vacant,
you
get
the
the
residential
units
in
there
and
then
you
have
either
some
vacant
stores
down
below
or
stores
that
are
very
far
from
what
was
the
original
intended
purpose
when
they
were
proposed.
A
Okay
and
how
does
that
match
up
with
what
you're
seeing
in
the
current
market
and
we're
seeing
somewhat
of
an
exodus
out
of
Boise
right
now?
Not
a
lot,
but
but
it's
we
don't
we're
not
seeing
the
growth
that
we
did.
A
W
Would
say
when
we
originally
underwrote,
these
Boise
in
particular,
was
experienced
a
really
rapid
increase
in
rental
rates.
W
W
So
this
is
a
premium
rental
product.
It's
going
to
rent
for
somewhere
between
10
and
20
premium
above
a
traditional
Garden
style
apartment.
I'll.
Tell
you
what
we
have
seen
that
really
gave
me
confidence
in
the
numbers
that
we
put
in
so
far
a
similar
product
just
opened
I.
Think
the
first
one
I've
seen
in
the
Boise
metro
area,
I
believe
it's
called
Black
Cat
within
the
city
of
Meridian,
similar
patio
homes,
separate
entrances,
they
have
town
homes
and
patio
homes
and
their
rents
are
pretty
significantly
in
excess
of
what
we
have
underwritten.
C
Follow
up
on
that?
Are
you
planning
to
make
any
of
these
available
for
short-term
rentals,
or
are
you
sticking
with
long-term
rentals
or
have
you.
W
Decided
when
you
mean,
when
you
say
short-term
rentals,
do
you
mean
like
an
Airbnb
nightly
rental?
No,
these
would
be
long-term
rentals.
Six
month,
12
month,
18
month,
contracts.
A
Okay,
so
now
we're
going
to
move
to
our
individual
testimonies-
and
we
have
quite
a
number
of
you
here
that
want
to
testify
so
I-
think
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
I'm,
going
to
start
off
with
Marissa
Keith
is
Marissa
here,
I'm
going
to
start
out
with
her
because
aren't
you
head
of
the
neighborhood
association
and
I
think
that
way
Marissa
can
maybe
cover
quite
a
bit.
She
talks
fast
in
three
minutes
and
then
that
way
we
won't
have
to
be
a
lot
of
redundancy
here
tonight.
So
thank
you.
F
Record
and
Madam
chairs
our
interrupting
Marissa
before
she
starts
I'm
going
to
enter
in
a
couple
exhibits
in
the
record.
The
first
will
be
exhibit
number
66.
This
is
the
sign
findings
from
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission,
and
then
we
have
exhibit
number
67,
which
is
going
to
be
the
applicant's
presentation
that
you
just
saw
on
your
screen.
C
It
Madam
chair,
yes,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
people
signed
up
to
talk,
and
so
things
can
get
redundant,
sometimes
you're
not
obligated
to
come
testify.
If
you
did
sign
up,
if
you
feel
your
position
has
been
covered,
you
could
just
stand
up
and
say
whether
you
support
or
oppose
and
sit
down.
It's
perfectly
fine,
but
everybody
will
have
an
opportunity
to
testify.
Even
if
you
haven't
signed
up.
Thank.
A
C
A
X
Go
ahead
good
evening,
my
name
is
Marissa
Keith
I'm
at
3279,
South
Cloverdale
I'm,
the
president
of
the
Southwest
County
Alliance
neighborhood
association,
I,
also
sat
on
the
Ada
County
Citizens
zoning
rewrite
committee
and
I
currently
sit
on
the
Boise
citizens.
Advice
Missouri
committee
for
their
zoning
rewrite
I
also
live
within
the
area
of
impact.
So
in
March
of
this
year
the
president
of
South
Coal,
those
are
our
neighborhood
associations.
X
In
Southwest
there,
the
president
of
South
Coal
na
and
I
met
with
Boise's
new
planning
director
Tim
Keane
at
a
coffee
shop
downtown,
and
we
wanted
to
introduce
ourselves
and
let
him
know
some
of
the
issues
that
are
unique
to
our
area
and
at
the
end
of
that
meeting
he
said
next
time
we
meet
I
want
to
come
out
and
have
coffee.
In
the
area
of
impact.
I
told
him.
There
is
no
coffee
shop
within
the
area
of
impact.
X
As
far
as
I
know,
there's
a
a
kiosk
at
like
queso
on
Five
Mile,
there's,
maybe
a
Starbucks
in
Albertsons.
Probably
the
closest
sit-down
coffee
shop
would
be
three
miles
away
on
Overland
for
reference
from
this
Courthouse.
That
would
be
just
past
Veterans
Parkway
in
Garden,
City
or
at
the
airport,
so
that
distance
just
doesn't
apply
to
coffee
shops.
There
are
hundreds
of
daily
living
tasks
that
one
cannot
do
in
the
aoi
for
lack
of
services
there.
X
X
On
the
other
side
of
the
argument,
we
have
Tommy
Alquist,
who
is
meeting
with
Boise
to
put
large
and
small
scale
commercial
and
Retail
along
Orchard
to
bring
in-
and
this
is
his
quote
from
the
Statesman
anything
that
Services
households,
All
That
Home
Development
over.
There
is
kind
of
untapped.
X
So
who's
right
is
it
this
developer.
Is
it
Tommy,
Alquist,
I
I,
say
we
should
listen
to
the
neighbors
because
they
are
the
experts
in
their
community
and
they
know
what
they
need,
and
it
strikes
me
at
how
rare
it
is
for
a
community
to
come.
Ask
for
more
commercial
when
they
could
have
a
much
quieter
residential
next
to
him.
I
think
that
just
speaks
to
the
need
out
there.
Next
slide,
so
in
July
of
2019
I
actually
came
here
and
testified
on
that
commercial
property
to
the
north.
X
X
Connectivity
is
a
major
area
of
concern
in
the
southwest
without
connectivity
between
these
two
Parcels
for
both
bike
Peds
and
motorists.
Most
of
the
residential
to
the
South
will
need
to
go
through
five
mile,
the
Five
Mile
and
Lake
Hazel
intersection
to
access
the
commercial
to
the
north
and
that's
poor
planning.
Even
the
city
of.
X
Almost
done
even
the
city
of
Boise
recognizes
that
the
zoning
ordinance
amendment
is
not
in
accordance
with
their
comp
plan,
and
that
is
one
of
the
findings
that
is
required
for
this
reason
to
happen.
So
swaka
would
not
be
opposed
to
a
mix
of
uses
on
this
parcel,
but
any
development
must
include
substantial
commercial
or
retail
space,
and
so
at
this
time
we're
asking
that
you
deny
this
reason.
C
So
there
is
still
room
for
commercial.
You
know
to
the
north
correct
in
additional
development
and
the
the
previous
testimony
they
they
kind
of
gave
a
little
map
that
showed
there's
still
commercial
opportunities
around.
That
intersection
is
that
some.
X
Of
that
is
already
built,
I'm,
not
sure,
that's
the
newest
satellite
image
that
they
showed.
There's
that
McDonald's
there,
the
the
parcel
on
the
other
side
of
McDonald's
will
probably
I.
Think
I
saw
something
on
that
the
other
day,
but
also
keep
in
mind
that
there's,
there's
Locale,
that's
2
000
homes
not
built
yet
there's
Muriel
Farms,
which
will
be
coming
3
400
homes,
there's
the
other
one
way
out
towards
kuna.
That
will
be
coming
before
this
board.
Another
several
thousand
houses
there
is
that
list
that
I
put
up.
X
That
is
not
the
extent
of
approved
and
not
yet
built
Parcels
within
Southwest
Boise,
Thank,
You,
Phillip.
C
So
I
mean
other
than
the
connectivity
to
the
the
commercial
air
is
I
mean.
What
exactly
do
you
want
them
to
build.
X
I
would
just
like
to
like
to
them
have
a
mix
if
they
want
housing.
That's
fine,
but
they're.
Very
ever
since
I
have
been
the
president
of
swaka,
we
have
asked
for
a
commercial
and
the
we.
What
we
always
get
is
that
you
have
to
have
the
rooftops,
and
we
have
this
year.
In
particular,
we
have
seen
our
commercial
areas
now
falling
to
residential.
We
have
this
parcel,
possibly
Charles
with
Charlesworth
place,
which
is
across
the
way
they
significantly
reduce
that
commercial
area.
There's
a
parcel
off
of
Cloverdale
and
Amity.
A
X
Neighborhood
association
is
12
square
miles,
but
I
think
any
any
sort
of
thing.
You
know
Salon
a
daycare
there's
the
closest
pediatrician's
Office
is
a
couple
of
miles
away
from
here.
Although
there
is
an
urgent
care
at
this
location,
a
post
office,
restaurants,
there's
I,
think
one
sit-down
restaurant
other
than
the
McDonald's
there's
one
sit-down
restaurant
in
that
that
complex.
C
C
X
X
You
know,
there's
there's
not,
but
when
you
look
at
the
amount
of
houses
that
are
within
the
area
of
impact
compared
to
the
commercial,
the
next
nearest
commercial
from
this
is
Overland
three
miles
I
mean
that's
a
long
ways
to
drive,
and
it
it
also
impedes
you
know:
kids
having
jobs
out
there.
Where
are
they?
Where
do
teenagers
work?
Not
not
within
walking
distance,
not
within
biking
distance?
They
have
to
travel
much.
A
Thank
you,
Marissa.
Okay,
we're
going
to
start
now
with
David
Grace.
Actually,
let's
go
do
we
have
one
person
online,
that's
waiting
on
WebEx,
Marianne,
strong
she's,
not
on
okay,
we'll
go
ahead
then,
and
we'll
go
to
the
in
person.
David
Grace
come
on
up
I'm
going
to
have
you
get
ready,
Ted,
Dia
dudden
will
be
next
and
then
Rusty
boycott
after
that,
so
David
go
ahead
and
state
your
name
for
the
record.
F
It's
hard
to
interrupt,
Marissa
Keith's
presentation
is
going
to
be
exhibit
number
66
or
I'm
sorry
number
68
and
then
Mr
Grace's
presentation
is
going
to
be
number
69.
Y
Thank
you
for
your
time.
My
name
is
David
Grace
I
live
at
6587,
South,
Columbia,
Way,
Boise
and.
Y
Slide
please
I've,
had
companies
have
made
many.
What
I
believe
are
erroneous
claims
today
and
during
in
front
of
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
as
well
I'm
only
going
to
tackle
a
couple
due
to
do
a
limited
time
quote
they
stated:
should
there
be
commercial
use,
the
traffic
could
be
significantly
higher
than
what
our
site
generates.
So
basically,
pet
companies
has
claimed
that
if
this
remains
commercial,
it
could
be
worse,
it
could
be
a
Walmart
and
you
guys
would
be
mad
about
that
or
what
have
you?
Y
This
is
clearly
speculation,
not
based
in
any
facts
or
data
that
they've
provided
next
next
slide.
Please
most
Apartments
most
apartment
units
that
you'll
find
anywhere
in
the
country
you're
going
to
have
at
least
one
to
two
vehicles
per
household
or
per
unit.
Sometimes
three
in
today's
unfortunate
economy.
There's
a
lot
of
situations
where
you
have
you
know
more
than
one
family
living
in
one
single
apartment,
so
that
could
it
could
be
even
more
vehicles.
Y
Y
So
any
any
one
that
lives
in
this
area
knows
about
Christine
Donnell
to
elementary
school,
just
right
down
the
street
off
of
Five
Mile,
it's
pretty
bad
in
the
mornings,
but
especially
around
four
o'clock
when
kids
are
getting
out
of
school.
If
you
look
at
the
picture
on
the
right,
the
traffic
line,
the
pickup
line
excuse
me,
goes
all
the
way
down
to
Lockwood.
It's
it's
a
complete
mess.
You.
A
Y
I
would
guess
a
quarter
mile,
maybe
okay,
so
it's
right.
It's
close,
it's
pretty
close
yeah,
so
just
imagine
adding
another
two
to
three
hundred
vehicles
coming
in
and
out
of
Lockwood.
So
why
does
this
matter
next
slide?
Please?
Y
So
the
Allante
residents
are
going
to
pick
up
on
this
very
quickly
in
the
mornings
and
especially
in
the
afternoon
and
they're,
going
to
look
for
alter.
You
know
they're
going
to
adjust
they're
going
to
look
for
alternate
routes.
So
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
please
the
yellow
line
represents
Five
Mile.
The
Blue
Line
represents
Lake
Hazel,
the
red
line
is
Lockwood
and
it
also
represents
the
alter
alternative
route
that
they're
most
likely
going
to
take
in
the
mornings,
especially
around
school
time
in
the
afternoon
when
school
gets
out.
Y
So
next
slide
please.
So
why
does
this
matter
well?
Y
You're
again,
you're
talking
hundreds
of
vehicles
multiple
times
per
day,
going
through
Hazelwood
village,
where
our
kids
walk
to
and
from
school
you
know
play
ride
their
bikes
and
that
could
create
a
lot
of
safety
concerns
the
other.
The
other
claim
that
they've
brought
up
on,
especially
in
the
last
hearing,
is
there's,
can
I
finish
a
few
more.
Y
That
there's
enough
parking
spots
on
site
and
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
convenience
trumps,
everything
you
know
the
the
section
at
the
very
bottom
that
borders
Lockwood.
If
cars
are
parked
on
Lockwood,
the
their
cars
are
actually
going
to
be
closer
to
the
front
door.
Then
the
sites
that
the
the
the
parking
spots
that
they
might
be
given
in
the
green
section
so.
Z
Z
When
my
wife
and
I
first
bought
our
home
in
early
2015,
we
were
really
excited
about
having
back.
Then
there
was
a
Ralphs
before
it
was
Albertsons.
We
could
walk
there
or
we
own
a
few
bikes
I.
Like
riding
my
bike,
there
I,
like
riding
the
bike
to
Reed's
Dairy,
and
it's
just
so
nice
to
not
have
to
drive
my
car
and
not
fight
with
the
traffic
on
the
Five
Mile
there,
and
so
just
the
prospect
of
having
more
business
there.
Z
So
we
can
just
stay
home,
I
I'm,
originally
from
the
greater
Seattle
area,
it's
also
professional
Commuter
for
over
30
years.
So
it's
so
nice
when
we
moved
here
to
be
able
to
find
a
place
within
15
to
20
minutes
of
where
I
worked.
That
was
a
key
criteria
to
avoid
all
the
driving
and
the
traffic
and
then
to
have
the
prospect
of
more
homes,
more
traffic.
Z
Of
course
that
does
not
appeal
to
me,
but
the
greatest
appeal
is
just
having
the
prospect
of
more
businesses
that
we
can
walk
to
or
drive
a
ride,
our
bikes
to
and
short
story.
Whenever
our
grandkids
come
over
from
Washington.
We
like
to
walk
over
to
Reed's
Dairy
and
it's
just
a
great
kind
of
a
family
building
thing
to
be
able
to
walk
that
it
should
take
about
10
minutes,
but
with
the
kids
grandkids
it
takes
probably
20
to
30,
but
they're
just
sightseeing.
So
it's
a
great
thing:
we
love
it.
Z
Z
A
AA
Madam
chair,
you
correctly
pronounced
my
last
name:
congratulations:
I'm,
Rusty,
boycott
I
live
at
11051,
West
Leilani,
which
is
in
Hazelwood
subdivision.
My
wife
and
I
moved
there
about
five
years
ago,
just
in
general,
real
quick
I
agree
with
the
Planning
and
Zoning
original
plan
to
create
a
residential
neighborhood
to
include
a
retail
Center
with
the
intent
to
capture
household
vehicle
trips.
AA
Right
now,
your
question,
sir.
We
have
the
grocery
store
pharmacy
convenience
store,
Primary,
Care,
Facility,
a
small
strip,
retail
One
Restaurant,
one
fast
food
and
soon
we'll
have
a
bank.
Now
that's
a
good
start,
but
to
properly
serve
our
neighborhood.
We
also
need,
for
example,
a
dentist
office.
A
car,
wash
small
hardware,
store
a
gym:
half
a
dozen
more
little
retail
shops
here,
a
nail
salon:
three
more
sit-down
restaurants,
a
coffee
shop,
a
daycare
and
a
florist.
AA
AA
In
fact,
of
all
the
five
intersections.
Only
this
one
Five
Mile
Lake
Hazel
has
the
opportunity
for
full
retail
development,
all
the
other
intersections.
So
that's
Eagle,
Cloverdale,
Maple,
Grove
and
coal
have
some
existing
development
and
no
retail
opportunities
as
a
homeowner
I
support
the
planning
and
zoning's
vision
for
this
area
and
I
urge
you
to
reject
the
modification
which
is
contrary
to
their
plan,
to
accept
the
proposed
development
would
result
in
several
hundred
daily
additional
household
vehicle
trips
and
would
fail
to
create
a
residential
neighborhood
that
we
desperately
want.
Thank
you.
AB
You
good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
my
name
is
Patricia.
Watkins
I
live
at
6562,
Jessenia,
Avenue,
that
our
all
our
North
facing
Windows
face
that
a
lot
I
am
not
going
to
go
into
whatever
everybody
else
is
going
to
perfectly
give
us
reasons
about
this
development.
Why,
yes,
or
why
not?
I,
just
want
to
tell
you
a
brief
story,
pretty
much
similar
to
what
we've
been
hearing
here
in
2017
I
was
a
real
estate
agent
and
in
those
days
my
husband
and
I
decided
to
downsize.
AB
I
became
my
husband's
real
estate
agent
and
my
husband
became
my
most
difficult
client
as
a
real
estate
agent.
It
was
a
nightmare
trust
me
and
every
single
house
I
have
to
have
a
east
facing
backyard
and
three
car
garage
on
this
size
and
this
other
side.
We
couldn't
find
it.
So
we
end
up
having
decided
to
build.
We
went
to
Lake
Hazel.
At
that
time
they
were
have
they
still
have
some
lots
available.
AB
We
fell
in
love
with
this
one
I
mean
we
put
the
finger
this
and
we
want
this
one
and
we
still
like
it
very
much
in
the
promise
was
at
that
time.
Oh
all,
across
the
street.
This
is
a
zone
for
commercial,
so
I
said
great.
We
can
have
commercial
buildings,
so
we
build
our
house,
it
cost
more
than
we
expected,
but
we
still
love
it.
AB
So
what
I'm
asking
here
is
please
keep
the
promise
that
we're
going
to
have
more
Business
Development,
an
idea,
a
theater,
a
small
theater
restaurants,
I
think
that
will
bring
up
the
community
a
lot
I
if
you
I,
have
other
ideas
but
I
think
I
haven't
seen
a
theater
I
mean
it's.
Everything
is
like
at
least
five
ten
miles
away.
We
would
love
to
have
a
theater
there
at
restaurants,
a
cafe
and.
AC
AC
Hello,
my
name
is
John
Murphy
Commissioners,
my
name
is
John
Murphy
I
live
at
6756
South
tulasi
Avenue
in
Boise,
in
Hazelwood,
Village
and
I
am
a
homeowner
residing
in
his
Wood
Village.
We
moved
here
in
December
of
last
year
and
at
that
time
our
realtor
did
not
mention
any
changes
to
the
property
in
question.
AC
Only
that
it
was
zoned
for
future
future.
Like
commercial
development.
We
love
this
new
style
of
living,
since
we
both
are
retired,
with
the
possibility
of
moving
of
more
future
growth
of
small
businesses
that
could
locate
on
said
site.
If
you
rezone
this
property
to
residential
and
allow
130
one
two
and
several
three
bedrooms
on
these
11
acres,
then
there
is
no
chance
for
commercial
growth
there.
In
the
first
meeting
that
Peg
put
on,
there
were
no
covered
parking
places,
no
extra
parking
and
no
entrances
entrances
from
Lake
Hazel
road
to
this
site.
AC
This
would
really
tax
the
heck
out
of
traffic
on
Lake
Hazel
Road
road
to
this
site,
especially
during
pre-work
hours
and
after
school
work
hours.
If
you
drive
around
a
three
square
mile
area
of
this
intersection,
you'll
find
plenty
of
apartments.
Rental
units
and
more
going
up
what
we
don't
have
is
enough
small
businesses
located
there
and
why
not
not
enough
incentive
to
make
the
cost
effective?
It
would
be
nice
to
have
an
Ace,
Hardware
automotive
shop,
a
couple
of
drive-in
dine-in
theaters
and
a
dry
cleaner,
but
right
off,
we
have
a
liquor
store.
AC
The
intersection
at
Five,
Mile
and
Lake
Hazel
is
not
set
up
to
handle
the
increased
traffic
that
this
reach
only
would
cause.
Please
look
at
the
attached
sheet.
Well,
if
you
look
at
the
planning
sheet
and
you'll
see
the
land
use
comparisons.
Hazelwood
Village
has
approximately
60
homes
on
the
same
land
mass.
It
should
be
at
least
be
Blended,
be
a
blended
Community,
not
130
units
that
stick
out
like
a
sore
thumb.
People
still
want
to
own
their
own
homes.
This
is
clearly
based
on
rental.
This
site
is
complete
clearly
based
on
rental
projections.
AC
All
about
income
to
land
racial
profits
do
not
not
in
the
best
interest
to
the
community.
Please
vote
no.
A
T
My
address
is
6468
South,
rahana
way.
Boise
Idaho
I
really
would
like
to
join
the
opinion
of
one
of
participants
in
this
testimony
about
having
the
commercial
development
in
our
area.
T
What
we
have
now
is
a
good
first
step,
but
it
actually
needs
quite
a
bit
of
development
to
kind
of
strengthen
the
trend
in
this
direction,
and
I
spoke
with
several
Neighbors
who,
for
some
reason,
cannot
attend
this
meeting,
and
my
question
was
what
you
would
like
to
to
see
in
this
area
and
obviously
the
opinions
are
quite
different,
but
I
would
probably
summarize
several
opinions
to
like
made
more.
T
Like
you
know
close,
you
know,
let's
say
agreement
on
restaurants,
restaurants
and
people
definitely
mean
sit-in
restaurants,
and
this
would
be
Chinese.
This
would
be
Mexican,
restaurants,
that's
what
people
mentioned.
I
also
heard
I.
T
Think
it's
really
appealing
to
many
of
us
to
have
something
like
Ace,
Ace,
Hardware
Store,
and
you
know
the
argument
that
if
you
need
a
couple
of
screws,
you
have
to
go
like
four
miles
to
the
closest
Home
Depot
or
you
know
Lowe's
and
you
spend,
like
you
know,
just
more
on
the
gas
on
gas
than
on
items
which
you
want
to
pick
up
so
all
also
in
terms
of
a
sense
of
community.
T
You
might
have
slightly
different
vision
of
sense
of
community
which
was
presented
on
on
these
slides
here
that
if
you
have
the
body
shop
nearby
and
you
talk
to
a
mechanic
and
many
people
in
Lake,
Hazel
occasionally
uses
service,
that's
a
community!
That's
how
you
know,
people
personally
you
go
to
like
you
know
this
body
shop
occasionally,
and
you
know
it's
a
building
relationship
to
us
and
also
same
restaurants.
You
know
people
in
person
by
names,
that's
the
feeling
of
community.
T
From
from
this
perspective,
the
argument
again
about
like
extra
areas
available,
north
I
would
say
it
probably
has
some
value
if
the
presenter
would
show
okay.
This
is
the
area
which
we
have
for
the
particular
lot,
and
then
you
have
the
comparable
area
where
the
commercial
could
be
developed
if
they
were
to
come
with
the
plan,
which
is
saying
that
this
amount
of
businesses
you
may
put
in
there-
and
this
is
a
traffic
in
this
area-
and
this
would
be
you
know
pretty-
on
on
par
with
this
area
in
in
question.
T
AD
Some
of
this
stuff
that
I
had
written
down.
People
have
covered
already
so
I'll
just
kind
of
skip.
Those
currently
there's
18
businesses
near
the
Lockwood
parcel,
with
an
ICCU
Branch
under
construction,
which
was
brought
up
earlier
in
general.
Small
businesses
fail
at
a
pretty
high
rate
20
in
the
first
year,
50
within
five.
AD
No
businesses
have
failed
at
Lake
hazeln
Five
Mile,
even
through
the
tough
pandemic
years,
three
would
opened
actually
during
the
pandemic
in
2020
and
they're
busy
as
heck
as
you
can
imagine.
The
area
really
lacks
a
critical
mass
of
businesses
for
area
residents
to
reduce
their
vehicle
miles.
Traveled.
As
many
people
have
said,
we
have
to
drive
quite
a
ways
just
for
small
items
to
Overland
or
Beyond.
The
peg
proposal
will
move
11
acres,
which
is
about
one-third
of
the
land
reserved
for
businesses
at
this
area.
AD
AD
It's
interesting
that
people
have
mentioned
that
this
is
really
low
housing
density.
But
if
you
look
at
that
map
that
they
pulled
up
most
of
the
designations
of
the
subdivisions
along
the
Lake
Hazel
are
actually
designated
compact,
which
is
6
to
15
units
per
acre
and
according
to
Boise
City's
designation,
neighborhood
activity
centers
with
retail
restaurants,
employment
and
other
services
are
encouraged
within
walking
distance
of
land.
AD
That
has
a
use
designation
of
compact,
using
the
density
that
was
quoted,
I
think
they
said
one
and
a
half
to
two
units
per
acre.
AD
I
think
you'll
find
that
that
is
probably
much
higher
than
the
number
of
rooftops
per
business
in
the
North
End
and
then
within
two
to
three
miles
of
this
intersection.
There's
also
medium
to
high
density
in
Meridian,
at
Lake,
Hazel
Eagle
in
Locust
Grove.
So
on
the
south
side
of
the
Southwest
data,
County
Alliance,
there's
quite
a
bit
higher
density,
cautious
that
any
type
of
business
could
set
up
shop
here.
Why
not
work
with
the
community
to
promote
the
land
for
use
from
businesses?
The
community
actually
needs
and
wants.
AD
AE
Alicia
Reinhard
12961,
North,
9th
Avenue,
Boise
and
I've
spent
my
entire
adult
life
here
in
this
great
City
and
have
two
beautiful
children
that
are
getting
ready
to
graduate
high
school
and
spread
their
wings
and
I
love
the
concept
of
them
to
be
able
to
get
into
a
rental
that
allows
them
not
to
have
any
shared
walls
and
be
able
to
bring
their
pet
with
them.
AE
Pets
are
a
big
part
of
our
family
and
I
love
that
concept
of
them
not
having
to
go
to
an
apartment
complex
to
afford
to
live
to
stay
in
this
area
versus
moving
away
from
me,
I'd
really
like
for
them
to
have
an
option
where
they
have
a
place
that
they
can
call
home,
and
it's
maintenance.
Free,
TurnKey
and
I.
Just
wanted
to
put
my
my
two
cents
in
for
favor
of
okay.
A
AE
A
R
R
Am
a
past
director
of
development
services
for
Ada
County
from
2004
through
2008.,
oh
wow,
so
I
was
a
development
director
when
Hazelwood
Village,
this
2006
master
plan
was
approved.
R
R
The
purpose
in
the
Ada
County
codes
states
that
it's
just
established
commercial
area
near
residential
areas,
for
limited
for
the
sale
of
limited
merchandise
and
required
by
population
primarily
in
the
area.
C2
is
quite
different.
C2
is
for
Community
shopping,
clustered
commercial
activities
and
provide
sale,
a
full
range
of
merchandise,
services
and
persons
living
within
the
neighborhood
service
area,
as
well
as
a
rural
trade
area
it
and
while
I
was
a
Theta
County.
The
Commissioners
were
part
and
parcel
to
developing
the
blueprint
for
good
growth
for
Ada
County
and
the
six
cities
within
the
county.
R
As
you
know,
Boise
City
blueprint
for
good
growth
opposes
this
development.
The
reason
they
oppose
it
is
because
there
was
much
discussion
about
the
need
for
commercial
nodules
rather
than
strip
development
throughout
Ada.
County,
there's
no
commercial
development
of
any
substantial
kind
within
three
miles
of
this
site,
either
Northwest
East
or
South.
It's
all
housing.
We
don't
need
any
more
housing,
we're
sick
of
housing.
We've
got
a
lot
of
housing,
I
live
there.
R
R
AF
AF
We
know
that
having
so
many
apartment
buildings,
other
residential
that
is
just
crowding
in
on
that
corner,
it's
just
going
to
bring
more
and
more
people
into
our
community.
I
mean
you
look
at
this
I
mean
if
I
live
there,
I
wouldn't
be
walking
up
and
down
those
streets.
I'd
come
right
into
Hazelwood
Village
and
use
our
the
art
streets.
Our
people's
Lawns
I
would
walk
my
dog
there
and
they
asked
if
they
could
use
our
facilities.
For
one
reason:
why
was
that?
AF
Why
would
they
even
want
to
use
ours
because
they
don't
have
it
so
anyway?
I'm
happy
that
and
I'm
I
agree
with
everything
that
has
been
said
before
me
and
anyone
that's
been
opposed.
I
really
enjoyed
the
photograph,
a
five
mile
that
does
happen
every
day
during
school.
I
would
like
a
photograph
of
of
the
corner
of
Maple,
Grove
and
Hazelwood
Village
in
Hazelwood,
where
those
cars
are
parked
there
up
and
down
that
street
both
sides
all
day
all
night
because
of
all
the
rentals
there
with
not
enough
parking.
AF
A
Testimony
next
day,
it's
John,
but
I
can't
really
read
the
last
name.
AG
John
thickner
10955
West
Leilani
Drive
in
Boise
and
all
the
arguments
have
already
been
made
that
I
agree
with
and
I'm
opposed
to
the
change.
Thank.
AC
I'm
Tom
Compton,
10939,
Leilani,
drive
and
I
just
agree
with
what
my
wife
just
said.
So
you.
E
Thank
you,
I'm
Dallas,
Berg
I
live
at
10326,
Bigwood
Drive
I
live
in
Fox
Meadow
subdivision,
which
is
right
behind
Albertsons
I
oppose
this
I've
been
out
there
42
years,
and
it
was
all
farming
Community.
When
we
moved
out
there
we
loved
it.
We
don't
need
any
more
commercial
stuff
out
there.
We
don't
need
any
more
housing
out
there.
E
I
am
happy
the
houses
we
got
there.
I
don't
like
nobody
has
addressed
the
traffic
from
Overland
to
Lake.
Hazel
is
Ada
County
Highway
gonna,
that's
only
a
two
lane
road.
It
can't
even
handle
the
traffic
now
I
drive
that
every
day
it's
disgusting
and
sickening
that's
backed
up
clear
to
Oberon.
You're
gonna
have
to
put
a
four-lane
highway
from
Overland,
clear
to
Columbia
and
then
they're
going
to
have
to
extend
it
clear
to
Fairview.
E
Lake
Hazel
is
the
same
from
Eagle
to
Coal.
Road
is
backed
up.
It's
a
two-lane
Highway
too
I
oppose
it.
A
hundred
percent
I'm
living
in
a
residential
neighborhood
and
my
street
gets
50
to
60
cars
go
through
there
every
day
because
they
don't
want
to
use
Lake
Hazel
because
they
cannot
get
on
from
sea
breeze.
The
subdivision
just
east
of
me.
E
We
got
too
much
traffic.
What
about
the
schools?
It's
going
to
impact
the
schools
there!
You
got
Christy
Don.
Now
you
got
the
Lake
Hazel
Elementary,
and
then
you
got
the
Lake
Hazel
Middle
School,
the
kids
are
gonna
and
then
they're
going
to
have
more
people
more
kids
at
those
schools.
They
already
got
portable
units
there.
What
are
they
going
to
do?
E
They're
going
to
have
to
build
or
expand
the
schools
and,
and
so
and
then
they
have
all
it's
just
congested
right
now,
Ada
County
Highway
isn't
even
going
to
put
a
roundabout
for
two
years.
When
are
they
going
to
put
a
four-lane
highway
in
they're
gonna
have
to
take
it
clear
to
Fairview
and
clear
to
Colombia
if
they
put
all
those
units
in
they're
going
to
be
four
to
five
hundred
more
cars
there.
E
If
they
put
that
unit
in
they're,
really
under
counting
the
cars
there's
going
to
be
four
to
five
hundred
the
rentals,
they
don't
keep
up
the
rentals
of
people
that
live
there
and
it
devaluates
the
property
for
people
who
live
in
homes
there,
and
so
I
am
opposing
that
completely
they
need
to
put
a
park
in
a
park
in
that
place
would
be
great.
Thank.
I
I
My
name
is
Mary
Beth,
Stanley
and
I
live
at
6855
South
Lala,
which
is
in
Hazelwood
Village
a
little
bit
of
background
I've
lived
here
since
1972,
and
my
husband
is
a
native
idahoan
and
we
purchased
in
Lake
Hazel
Village,
so
that
we
have
a
great
place
to
retire
and
have
multiple
businesses
to
bike
to
or
to
walk
to,
and
the
ones
that
are
there
now
are
wonderful
and
we
utilize
those,
and
we
would
like
to
see
more
so
we're
in
opposition
to
the
building
that
they're
about
they're
planning
to
build
and
I
also
am
very
offended
by
the
threat
from
the
development
company
telling
us
if
they
don't
get
this
built,
that
they
will
put
in
a
larger,
more
high
density,
apartment,
style,
building
and
I.
I
AH
Hi,
thank
you.
My
name
is
Carol
vidalis.
The
address
is
10963
West,
oleana
and
I
also
live
in
Hazelwood
Village.
This
current
application,
if
approved
I,
think
would
precipitate
two
negative
outcomes.
The
first
would
be
to
remove
the
current
POS
parcel
from
ever
having
any
commercial
use,
but
the
second
is:
it
would
create
potential
conflict
with
the
Hazelwood
Village
homeowners
association.
AH
That
brings
a
discussion
about
rentals.
Hazelwood
Village
has
581
homes
currently
about
10
percent
of
that
is
rentals
right
now,
of
course,
that's
not
a
static
number,
it
comes
and
goes.
We
also
have
at
least
three
airbnbs
in
there
Hazelwood
Village
of
butts
this
Lockwood
parcel
on
the
East,
but
on
the
North
side
it
abuts
a
different
kind
of
medium
density,
parcel,
that's
Parkside,
that
was
before
the
Commissioners.
AH
AH
People
can't
afford
the
first
time
home
buyer
can't
get
into
the
market,
so
that
was
going
to
be
the
target
for
Parkside
Parkside
has
it
was
planned
to
have
32
pinwheel
or
four
Plex
homes
and
74
townhouse
Lots
I've
been
kind
of
following
that
right
now,
the
peg
company
has
bought
those
fourplex
Lots.
They
are
under
the
name
of
alh
and
then
Boi
Lake,
Hazel
LLC
and
are
all
planned
to
be
rentals
of
the
74
townhome
Lots
21
are
yet
unsold.
AH
Three
are
pending
and
16
have
I
found
listed
on
rental
sites,
HotPads
apartment.coms.
What
have
you
there
are
two
airbnbs
currently
there
and
I
want
to
give
you
a
little
of
what
the
Hazelwood
Village
experience
has
been
with
Parkside.
So
far,
one
Airbnb
that
they've
had
just
to
protect
our
members
interest
in
in
our
property
that
we
own
all
the
parks
we
have
about
almost
15
Acres
of
common
area
and
an
additional
three
acres
of
shrub
beds.
They've
had
to
send
cease
and
desist
letters.
AH
There
was
one
Airbnb
that
was
the
advertising
that
oh
attached
to
the
Parkside
Community
is
Hazelwood
Village
Hazelwood
Village
has
multiple
parks
and
grassy
areas
for
kids
and
stretching
out
and
throughout
both
communities.
You'll
find
irrigation,
canals
with
walking
path,
so
please
feel
free
to
use
the
fully
backed
fenced
backyard.
But
if
this
isn't
enough
visit
the
neighborhood
park,
three
mile
walk
down
so
south
from
the
house,
a
recent
home
sale.
There
has
just
come
on
the
market
with
also
Airbnb,
and
they
are
also
advertising.
AH
They
aren't
saying
Hazelwood
Village,
but
they
just
say:
oh,
we
have
pools,
they
don't
even
have
a
pool.
Yet
it's
under
construction,
a
clubhouse.
They
will
never
have
a
clubhouse
and
they're
talking
about
parks
and
stuff
too.
There
are
no
city
or
county
parks
anywhere
in
walking
distance.
Here
the
Pearl
Jensen
Park
could
be
in
walking
distance,
but
the
rumor
on
the
street
is
that
that's
going
to
be
potentially
sold
or
that
Boise
doesn't
want
to
do
it
so
you're,
creating
a
conflict
that,
as
Marianne
showed
you.
AI
Cool
remind
me
what
I'm
doing
here,
I'm
gonna
get
started.
My
name
is
Carlos
vidalis
I
live
at
10963,
West,
orleana
Drive.
It's
a
barely
quarter
mile
from
this
lot,
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
this
is
the
very
last
commercial
lot
available
in
the
in
a
four
square
mile
area
that
I'm
aware
of
there
is
exactly
36
businesses
in
16
square
miles,
36
businesses
right
now.
AI
You
can
improve
a
lot
with
this
area,
but
you
know
by
a
whole
lot
the
people
that
oppose
please
next
one,
the
people
that
are
opposed
next,
one
too
yeah.
We
have
about
yeah,
so
the
city
of
Boise
opposes
this.
This
application
we
have
the
swagador
poses
it,
and
we
have
450
people
that
have
actually
written
separate
people
that
have
written
opposed
in
this
application.
You
probably
got
about
500
letters
but
450,
separate
people
that
are
posted
I
like
to
say
something
about
the
city
of
Boise.
AI
This
next
one,
the
city
of
Boise
layer,
I,
believe
that
both
the
the
staff
are
here.
The
Planning
Commission
and
the
PG
companies
are
misrepresented.
What
the
city
of
Boise
said
the
city
boys
set
up.
Ideally,
they
would
like
to
have
the
high
density
development,
but
in
fact,
in
their
letter
they
said
about
this
particular
application.
AI
The
activity
center
Lake,
Hazel
and
Five
Mile
Road,
which
is
over
a
mile
from
current
city
limits,
does
not
have
access
to
the
municipal
Services
necessary
to
support
the
residential
density
proposed
by
such
a
project
or
even
the
level
density
of
loopy.
That
density
blueprint,
boys,
ultimately
ambitious
at
the
time.
AI
What
it
does
have
is
the
potential
to
serve
as
an
anchor
of
employment
and
Commercial
opportunity
that
is
accessible
by
walking
or
short
local
trips
for
the
residents
for
the
residents
in
this
area,
an
opportunity
that
residents
in
the
southwest
planning
area
have
repeatedly
asked
the
city
of
Boise
to
support,
and
that
is
rapidly
diminishing
as
the
few
areas
designated
commercial
or
mixed
use
are
utilized
for
solely
residential
development.
That's
what
the
city
of
Boise
actually
said.
AI
AI
The
PG
representative
said
that
they
blew
that
they
that
their
best
I'll
say.
The
golden
idea
of
residential
developments
is
the
North
End.
Okay,
they
have
a
25
25
reasons
for
every
business
Boise
on
average
has
28
residents
for
every
business.
The
16
square
mile
area,
where
that,
where
this
lot
is
located,
has
722
residents
for
every
business
as
I
say:
there's
only
36
businesses
in
there
in
the
entire
60
malaria
I
know
because
I
counted
them.
I
thought
they
were
more
than
that,
but
it's
only
36..
AI
If
the
lot
remains
commercial,
please
next
slide.
AI
You
can
see
that
is
as
good
as
it's
gonna
get
Boise
will
still
have
20
year
residents
for
for
every
business
and
the
square
switch.
The
16
square
mile
area
will
have
about
350
residents
for
business,
so
that
may
I.
Please
have
just
one
more
there's
26
000
residents
approximately
in
this
area.
We
don't
like
residents,
we
like
Cricket
on
massive
businesses.
If
you
want
to
see
please
the
last
slide
there,
you
go.
That's
what
it
is
right
now.
That's
the
Square
16
square
miles,
36
businesses,
I
counted
them.
A
C
Question
is
you
know
what,
if
we
deny
this
project
and
tell
them
to
build
commercial
developments,
and
then
they
just
they
don't
take
off
and
they
don't
get
enough
customers
and
they
have
to
go
bankrupt.
I
mean
that's
you're,
asking
us
to
force
them
into
a
business
decision
that
they
don't
think
is
in
their
best
interest
right
now.
So
what
what
do
we
say
to
them
if
five
years
from
now
they're
bankrupt
and
there's
a
bunch
of
empty
storefronts
out
there?
Well.
AI
I
think
that
one
of
the
previous
Witnesses
said
that
in
10
years
it
hasn't
really
the
bankruptcy
of
the
businesses
in
that
area.
If
anything,
there's
critical
Master
is
lightning
there
we're
not
going
to
force
anybody
to
build
anything
particular
business.
You
know
we
cannot
do
that.
What
we
can
do
is
leave
the
space
reserved
for
commercial.
AI
I
will
say
that
it
appears
to
have
been
the
strategy
by
the
developers
or
by
at
least
by
the
owner
of
the
property,
to
socialize
the
idea
that
this
will
become
residential
as
opposed
to
commercial
I,
am
not
aware
that
they
have
actually
tried
to
sell
it
for
commercial
and
where
more
businesses
coming
here.
Well,
if
you
build
it,
they
will
come.
People
know
there.
We
have
nowhere
else
to
go.
We
have
to
drive
a
long
distance
I'm,
one
of
those
people
that
rise
five
miles
to
to
Lowe's,
to
buy
screws
and
I.
AI
C
Well,
so,
if
we,
if
they
build
a
commercial
there,
you
know
they're
going
to
need
to
attract
customers
and
let's
say
it
becomes
really
popular
you're
going
to
bring
in
people
from
outside
the
neighborhood
who
want
to
use
these
businesses
as
well.
So
does
that
maybe
defeat
the
the
traffic
argument.
AI
I
I
do
not
fight
the
traffic
argument.
I
know
that
there's
going
to
be
more
traffic
in
this
area,
whatever
happens,
but
I
do
know
that
if
it's
going
to
be
commercial,
that
commercial
area
will
be
connected
to
the
Commerce
of
the
north,
there
will
be
access
to
Lake
Hazel
of
Five
Mile,
and
you
know,
as
I
said,
a
lot
of
people
walk.
I
know,
I
will
drive
less.
It
is
inevitable.
B
A
C
F
A
AJ
AJ
Let's
talk
about,
you
know
the
presentations
that
have
been
given
so
far:
they're
wonderful,
they're,
beautiful
everything's,
great.
Let's
talk
about
what
really
is:
okay,
the
traffic
we've
heard
a
lot
about
the
traffic,
but
here's
the
way.
It
is
remember
that
five
miles
south
of
Lake
Hazel
is
a
two-lane
road.
AJ
If
you
put
access
from
this
new
development
onto
Five,
Mile,
there's
no
way
on
God's
green
earth,
they're
going
to
be
able
to
turn
left
to
go
north
to
head
towards
the
city,
because
the
backup
on
that
one
lane
road
is
almost
to
the
school,
so
you're
not
going
to
get
out
there.
We
we
have
all
that
horrific
traffic
achd
plans
to
widen
Lake
Hazel
Road
between
Cloverdale
and
and
Five
Mile.
AJ
In
five
years,
then
they'll
probably
go
Five
Mile
between
what
is
a
victory
and
Lake
Hazel
that'll
be
another
five
to
seven
years,
we're
not
going
to
see
relief
on
the
Main
Street
that's
affected,
which
is
south
of
Lake
Hazel
on
Five
Mile
for
10
to
15
years
we're
going
to
be
stuck
with
a
bad
traffic
problem.
AJ
We
have
the
Parkside
townhouses
going
in
and
the
pinwheel
homes,
another
107
or
so
units
there,
Charlesworth
right
behind
the
Walgreens
they've
got
a
bunch
of
Townhouses
going
in
there.
So
we've
got
high
density
housing.
There's
lots
of
places
around
us
to
do
that.
One
thing
that
people
aren't
talking
about
is
the
stress
and
the
strain
on
the
schools
I'm
concerned
about
that,
because
I'm,
a
retired
teacher,
Lake,
Hazel,
Elementary,
Lake,
Hazel,
Middle,
School
and
Christine
Donnell
are
at
or
above
capacity
and
all
these
houses
going
in
there's
bound
to
be
kids.
AJ
Where
are
they
going
to
go?
There's
no
place
for
them
to
go
in
the
presentation
that
the
paid
companies
gave
to
us
a
couple
months
ago
at
one
of
our
board
meetings.
I
asked
after
the
meeting
was
over
one
of
the
representatives.
I
said
what
was
the
result
of
the
impact
study
on
the
schools
in
our
area.
AJ
She
said
we
don't
have
one.
This
is
not
diligence,
they
ignored
an
important
factor
in
our
neighborhood,
so
with
all
these
entities
that
are
saying,
no,
don't
do
it
deny
it.
We
agree
with
that.
Three
to
four
hundred
people,
Carla
says
450
letters
sent
in
saying
deny
it
I
urge
you
to
listen
to
the
neighborhoods
affected,
listen
to
the
people
who
are
there
and,
to
borrow
a
phrase
just
say
no.
AJ
With
keep
with
the
wisdom
and
the
foresight
of
previous
planners
and
Boards,
who
made
that
commercial,
they
knew
what
was
coming.
I
think
there
was
some
wisdom
there
and
it
needs
to
be
recognized
so
I.
Thank
you
for
this
time
and
let
you
know
that
I
am
violently
opposed
to
this
application.
Hopefully.
AK
Evening
Mario,
what
is
6562
South,
Jessenia
Avenue,
Boise
My
Home
overlooks
Lockwood
Drive
and
the
11
acre
parcel.
That
is,
and
should
remain.
Zoned
commercial,
Lockwood
Drive
was
designed
and
built
to
service
a
small
community
of
single-family
residences,
not
a
high
density
development
that
dumps
100
percent
of
its
traffic
onto
Lockwood,
Drive
and
South
by
Five
Mile
Road,
South,
Five,
Mile,
Road,
already
experiences
bumper
to
bumper
traffic
in
both
directions
during
morning
and
evening
commutes.
AK
It
is
the
only
major
Street
between
eagle
and
coal
that
has
not
received
any
major
improvements
needed
to
cope
with
the
rapid
growth
that
has
taken
place
and
continues
to
take
place
in
this
area.
My
wife
and
I
moved
to
Hazelwood
village,
with
the
understanding
that
the
commercial
Parcels
around
Lake,
Hazel
and
Five
Mile
would
eventually
drop
businesses
that
would
provide
products
and
services
within
walking
distances
instead
of
driving
distances.
AK
AK
They
argue
that
this
caliber
of
Resident
will
not
result
in
the
increased
calls
for
police
and
fire
services
that
many
high
density
developments
experience,
I'm,
a
retired,
I'm
retired
from
30
years
in
law
enforcement
in
Marin
County
California,
one
of
the
wealthiest
counties
in
the
United
States,
the
two
cities
that
I
patrolled
have
several
large,
affordable
housing
developments
that
presumably
would
be
occupied
by
people
whose
income
level
was
some
sort
of
assurance.
That
trouble
could
not
afford
to
live.
There.
AK
I
lived
in
one
of
those
developments
for
several
years,
so
I
speak
from
experience
as
a
tenant
and
as
a
police
officer.
The
nature
of
the
calls
we
handled
in
these
affordable
developments
speak
for
themselves.
Drug
sales
from
rental
units
brought
traffic
to
the
area
at
all,
hours
search
warrants
were
served
and
arrests
were
made
loud
and
sometimes
violent
parties
during
fair
weather,
spilled
onto
parking
lots
and
nearby
streets.
Due
to
the
small
size
of
the
rental
units.
AK
These
parties
resulted
in
increased
vehicle
accidents
and
DUI
arrests
as
Partiers
left
the
areas
these
same
parties
provided
increased
calls
for
our
fire
department
as
well.
Renters
used
parking
spaces
and
nearby
streets
as
repair
areas
draining
oil
and
coolant
into
storm
drains
because
they
can't
afford
a
repair
shop.
This
also
resulted
in
costly
Hazmat
responses
for
our
city.
Our
Auto
burglaries
and
stolen
vehicle
reports
were
much
higher
in
these
areas,
because
no
one
had
a
garage,
often
renters
would
sublet
to
make
things
more
affordable
for
themselves.
AK
Subletters
would
have
to
park
on
local
streets,
adding
to
the
congestion,
Hazelwood
Village
residents
paid
above
average
prices
to
live
in
a
peaceful
quality.
Community
don't
take
that
away
from
us.
This
parcel
was
zoned
commercial
because
reason,
planning
and
Common
Sense
made
it
clear
that
local
residents
should
have
access
to
nearby
goods
and
services.
Let's
keep
it
that
way.
Thank
you
for
your
Accord
for
consideration.
Thank.
A
AL
My
name
is
Wayne
Kelly
I
also
live
in
Hazelwood
Village
11275,
West,
saloona,
Drive
I
am
a
professional
landscape,
architect
and
I'm
here
to
I
mean
we've
talked
about
commercial
versus
residential,
the
traffic
issues
and
all
that
I'm
not
here
to
concentrate
on
that.
AL
I
am
here
to
respond
to
their
plan,
which,
from
a
Landscape
Architect's
perspective,
it's
all
rooftops
and
Hardscape
for
parking
lot,
there's
very
little
open
space,
usable
space,
common
areas
Greenbelt
in
this
in
this
project,
I
believe
that
the
developers
actually
claiming
the
backyard
space
in
their
total
calculations
for
open
space,
and
so
I
have
30
35
years
of
experience,
I'm
retired
I've
seen
a
lot
of
projects.
I've
worked
on
a
lot
of
projects
and,
in
my
opinion
this
is
a
bad
project.
AG
C
AL
Well,
I
think
there
there
ought
to
be
open
space
common
space
for
for
kids
to
go
out,
and
you
know
being
a
green
space
without
having
to
come
over
to
Hazelwood,
to
use
our
amenities.
There
are
not
amenities
on
this
project,
for
people
to
use
for
kids
to
use,
and
if
there
are
amenities
they're,
so
small,
like
their
dog
park,
is
like
a
postage
stamp.
It's
not
big
enough
for
dogs.
A
AK
AM
I'm
Jacob
Pritchett,
my
wife
and
I,
live
at
10980
West
Leilani
in
Hazelwood
Village.
As
you
know,
Peg
the
developer
is
trying
to
build
this
new
complex,
directly
adjacent
Hazelwood,
Village
I'm
very
concerned
that
it'll
affect
our
neighborhood
in
many
negative
ways
with
no
real
positive
is
in
exchange.
It
takes
so
much
time
and
gas,
as
many
have
said,
to
get
to
essential
businesses
on
a
daily
basis,
most
of
which
are
10
to
15
minutes
away,
which
is
doubled
for
round
trips.
AM
If
you
have
to
factor
that
in
you
go
when
you
come
back
home,
this
is
made
even
more
painful
by
the
current
state
of
gas
prices.
Having
businesses
on
this
land
would
not
only
be
a
huge
Boon
for
the
local
economy,
providing
both
jobs
and
services
to
existing
residents,
but
would
offer
significant
time
and
gas
savings
not
to
mention
less
emissions,
there's
already
a
deficit
of
enough
businesses
to
support
the
residents
already
here,
as
reported
in
like
the
Boise
State
study
and
such
many
others,
so
it
makes
sense
to
rezone
this
land.
AM
It
makes
no
sense
to
rezone
this
land
of
residential.
It
will
further
exacerbate
this
issue.
Secondly,
we
have
large
beautiful
Park
areas,
open
grassy
fields,
that
we
residents
pay
HOA
fees
to
maintain
they're
meant
to
be
exclusive
to
Hazelwood
Village
residents.
Contrary
to
what
the
developer
says,
there
really
is
nothing
stopping
their
renters
from
walking
less
than
500
feet
to
our
main
Central
Park
area.
The
renters
have
no
incentive
to
cleat
be
clean
from
trash,
nor
any
incentive
to
pick
up
after
their
dogs
they're
not
truly
invested
like
we
are
they're
simply
renting
to
them.
AM
It's
someone
else's
problem
developers
tried
to
appease
Us
by
including
a
park
in
their
plan,
but,
as
someone
says
suppose,
is
stamp
size,
not
even
big
enough
for
dogs
and
given
the
fact
that
our
parks
are
so
close
to
their
complex,
why
wouldn't
their
attendants
just
use
ours?
What's
stopping
them?
Statistically
speaking,
crime
is
more
prevalent
in
denser
apartment
style.
Housing
like
this
Provost
development.
As
someone
else
already
mentioned,
it's
been
a
safe
place
for
families,
but
this
will
change
if
this
project
is
allowed
to
move
forward
to
developer.
AM
This
is
just
a
job,
but
to
us
this
is
our
home.
We've
all
invested
heavily
in
this
community.
Some
of
us
putting
a
life
savings
towards
these
houses
that
property
value
is
very,
very
large,
and
much
of
that
value
is
set
to
be
wiped
out.
If
this
development
moves
forward,
Peg
is
an
out-of-state
company.
This
development
would
take
invested
value
from
the
idahoans,
reduce
a
great
deal
of
it
and
then
send
off
the
remainder.
They
say
the
contractors
and
such
the
builders
will
be
local,
but
that's
a
one-time
cost.
AM
The
returning
rental
fees,
which
is
where
the
real
money
is,
will
all
be
going
out
and
away
from
Idaho.
They
also
state
that
the
fact
that
there's
a
low
percentage
of
apartment
style
developments
in
the
area,
but
why
is
that
a
bad
thing?
What's
wrong,
with
people
owning
their
own
homes,
building
Equity
investing
in
their
own
future?
Isn't
that
better
for
idahoans
than
throwing
that
money
away
out
of
state?
A
key
point
to
make
is
that
when
each
of
us
moved
here,
this
land
was
zoned
for
business
use.
AM
Many
if
not
most
of
us
would
have
chosen
a
different
neighborhood.
Had
this
been
zoned
for
high
density
residential
use,
it's
simply
not
good
for
this
community,
so
changing
it.
After
that
is
not
fair
to
us,
like
I
said
this
is
our
home.
All
of
us,
the
homeowners
of
Hazelwood
Village,
are
gathered
here
tonight
in
one
last
attempt
to
make
our
voices
heard,
because
we
know
that
it's
truly
Now
or
Never.
If
this
development
is
built,
it's
never
ever
going
away
and
our
community
will
therefore
never
recover.
AM
AG
A
AN
You
go
ahead,
did
I
give
my
address:
yeah,
you're,
fine,
okay,
you're,
fine.
We
live
right
behind
Albertsons
and
Fox
Meadows
and
our
water
pressure,
since
they
put
in
the
village
Lake
Hazel
Village,
has
dropped
significantly
I
mean
we
have
a
hard
time
getting
our
water,
our
Lawns
watered
or
the
dishwasher
going
with
at
the
washing
machine.
At
the
same
time,
it's
just
I
mean
that's,
some
little
seems
little,
but
it's
it
adds
up.
Are
you.
AN
AN
There
was
a
park
promised
to
our
subdivision
just
behind
that
last
Street,
which
is
one
street
over
from
us,
and
that
was
40
years
ago,
and
it's
still
not
there
still
still
no
Park
in
our
area
and
then
the
traffic
Cloverdale
Five
Mile,
Maple
Grove
coal
All,
the
Way
South,
is
so
backed
up
and
full
that
it
takes
you
forever
to
get
through
any
of
those
in
intersections
from
Fairview
South.
AO
Hello,
my
name
is
Joe
Zhang
and
I
live
in
the
same
address
as
my
husband,
Jacob
Pritchett
today,
I'm
not
gonna,
talk
about
the
concerns
that
our
neighbors
have
already
mentioned,
which
are
already
very
clear.
I
would
like
to
do
my
testimony
from
a
different
perspective,
so
there
are
two
main
points.
I
would
like
to
voice
out.
The
first
main
point
is
about
the
decision
making
procedure,
so
I
really
appreciate
that
we
have
these
public
hearings
in
the
United
States.
However,
based
on
the
experience
from
the
last
hearings,
I
have
three
feelings.
AO
Firstly,
some
of
the
decision
making
doesn't
sound,
convincing
or
logical
to
me,
so
I
still
remember
that
one
of
the
commissioner
approved
this
proposal
from
the
first
session
was.
The
reason
like
oh
PG,
has
good
reputation.
So
all
the
concerns
that
we
mentioned
won't
go
away,
regardless
of
how
the
Builder's
reputation
is.
So
how
can
that
even
be
the
main
factor
for
decision
making?
AO
Secondly,
there
are
too
many
emotional
manipulations
example
that
the
PG
representative
tried
to
force
guilt
by
saying,
like
you
were
once
a
renter
to.
Why
are
you
against
building
apartments,
which
is
absurd?
AO
AO
Second
main
point
is
that
when
making
these
decision,
please
think
about
the
consequence
of
each
scenario
and
try
to
get
a
win-win
situation.
A
sustainable
developed
plan,
so
I
would
suggest
making
a
list
of
pros
and
cons
and
their
ways
for
each
item
so
scenario
a
if
we
build
apartment
here.
What
what
is
the
cause
here?
AO
So
the
drawbacks,
like
all
the
concerns
that
we
mentioned,
which
is
really
clear
and
also
even
for
the
people
living
in
the
apartment,
will
also
experience
the
same
issues.
So
it's
like
a
loose
loose
scenario.
Nobody
is
happy
scenario
B.
If
we
build
commercial
projects
here,
the
only
drawback
I
can
think
of
is
that
maybe
it
cannot
provide
housing
for
more
population,
but
is
this
really
a
drawback?
AO
This
can
be
easily
solved
by
building
this,
this
apartment
in
a
place
where
there's
other
enough
commercial
resources
or
still
has
space
available
to
build
commercial
resources.
In
that
way,
there
will
be
more
happier,
renters
more
money
for
the
PHD
company
and
happy
residents.
Here,
too,
is
like
a
win-win-win
situation
for
all
the
three
parties,
not
to
mention
the
pros.
It
will
resolve
the
problems
that
mentioned,
which
would
be
significant
and
there
will
be
even
creating
more
jobs
locally.
AO
So
apart
from
this,
there
are
also
some
invisible
reasons
which
my
husband
mentioned
just
now.
If
the
apartment
is
built
here,
there
will
be
no
more
opportunities
for
further
development,
whereas
if
the
apartment
is
not
built
here,
the
Builder,
the
Builder,
can
still
find
other
places
to
build
their
apartments
and
nobody
has
to
lose
anything.
So
please
please
it's
my
last
statement.
Please
make
a
decision
that
can
provide
a
win-win-win
situation
and
sustainable
development
plan
for
our
homeland.
We
need
to
address
the
problems.
We
need
more
resources,
we
don't
need
apartment.
A
AP
I'm
Stan
randerson
I
live
at
6880,
South,
Cloverdale,
Road
and
I'd
just
like
to
bring
up
one
thing
that
really
hasn't
been
brought
up
yet,
and
that
is
water.
My
husband
and
I
moved
to
our
property.
We
live
on
four
acres,
we've
moved
there
in
1980.,
we
have
private
Wells.
Since
we've
been
there,
the
well
water
table
has
risen
50
feet.
AP
We
have
a
well
next
door
to
us
that
we're
having
to
replace
we
built
out
a
waiting
list
now
for
a
year
off
with
two
two
well
companies,
many
in
our
areas
on
Wells
they're
having
to
replace
them.
It's
going
to
cost
us
35
to
40
000.
To
do
this
well,
adding
more
homes.
People
using
is
just
not
what
we
need.
We
need
to
be
good
stewards
of
our
property.
We
need
to
be
good
stewards
of
what's
underneath.
AP
A
AQ
Hi,
my
name
is
Tucker
Johnson,
372,
South,
Eagle,
Road,
I
thought
I
just
offered
some
perspective.
I
wasn't
sure
if
I
would
offer
anything
tonight,
there's
something
in
the
packet
for
me.
I
I
originally
designed
Hazel's
Village.
In
fact
I
designed
Hazelwood
to
the
North.
In
fact,
my
family
brought
the
sewer
extended
sewer
in
conjunction
with
the
city
of
Boise,
two
different
times
a
mile
and
a
half
to
even
get
to
the
location.
Here
we
bought
and
revitalized
the
Albertsons
Marketplace.
AQ
The
challenge
and
the
the
comp
plan
for
Boise
at
that
time
and
and
supported
by
the
public
works
department,
was
that
Boise
was
going
to
continue
to
grow
to
the
South
and
expand
their
area
of
impact
and
that
sewer
line
was
designed
to
go
almost
out
towards
the
prison
out
towards
Colombia
and
Hubbard
and
so
forth,
and
then
Boise
abruptly
changed
that
that
plan
for
extending
the
sewer
and
all
of
a
sudden
all
bets
were
off
in
terms
of
what
we
saw
as
the
future
relative
to
the
the
sufficient
number
of
rooftops
and
density
and
traffic
counts
and
so
forth.
AQ
To
support
exactly
what
these
people
are.
Speaking
to
the
the
the
idea
of
being
able
to
walk
to
something,
the
livability
and
so
forth,
which
was
all
are
all
great
Concepts
and
great
places
to
live
and
I
I
applaud
that
I
Echo
much
of
what
they
said.
The
challenge
is
the
economics
of
it,
and
the
economics
are
that
you
need
a
certain
number
of
rooftops
in
a
one
three
and
a
five
mile
radius
and
Beyond
the
one
mile
radius
here
and
even
within
that
one
mile
radius
is
the
density
to
the
point.
AQ
You
get
Beyond
into
the
three
and
five
mile
radius
and
half
of
that
circle
is
basically
desert
and
Boise's,
not
planning
on
putting
any
sewer
out
there
anytime
soon
and
changing
their
comprehensive
plan
and
modifying
their
their
sewer
extension
policy
any
further
or
that's
probably
why
they
haven't
improved
the
park,
proteins
and
park
across
from
Albertsons
yet
and
so
forth.
The
comp
plan
calls
for
a
concentric
rings
of
density
as
you're
closer
to
the
intersection
is
exactly
why
I
think.
AQ
The
challenge
that
these
folks
Peg
has
is
trying
to
find
when
the
concentric
Rings
kind
of
overlap
and
finding
that
sweet
spot,
that
gold
is
lock
Zone
if
you
will
not
too
dense
for
the
neighbors,
but
not
not
not
too
tall
for
the
neighbors,
but
still
dense
enough
to
kind
of
to
meet
the
comprehensive
plan
and
hit
density
requirements.
AQ
There
are
I
think
poor
examples
of
mile
away
to
the
east,
where
there's
three-story
Apartments,
even
four-story
Apartments,
where
parking
is
a
real
Challenge
and
it's
all
vertical
and
it
just
doesn't
look
good
and
while
that
creates
maybe
more
bigger
areas
of
open
space,
it
doesn't
create
a
a
blending
neighborhood.
In
my
opinion,
I
I
know,
there's
people
behind
me
that
I
know
and
respect
and
their
their
neighbors
in
the
neighborhood
and
respect
their
opinion.
AQ
I
just
have
a
different
opinion
and
perspective
and
history
of
trying
to
get
visibility,
economic
viability
and
the
rooftops
to
support
the
businesses,
because
we've
tried
for
years
to
get
businesses
in
that
area.
For
years
and
years,
I've
been
associated
with
this
property
for
nine
to
twenty
years
now,
and
this
this
whole
intersection.
So
I
stand
for
questions.
If
you.
A
U
Eric
I'm
still
here
on
the
line.
Yes
well,
so
the
only
other
development
that
we
have
that
was
recently
evaluated
in
this
area
is
the
one
Quest
corner
commercial
development
in
that
case
and
that
evaluation
did
show
that
it
does
produce
more
trips
per
hour
than
a
residential,
and
so
it
isn't
necessarily
Apples
to
Apples
it,
but
they
are
close
in
vicinity
to
one
another
one,
commercial,
one,
residential
neighboring,
one
another.
U
A
AJ
AQ
At
Tucker
Johnson,
commissioner
Beck
as
hhd
indicated
they're,
not
quite
opposite
apples,
but,
generally
speaking,
commercial
generates
more
there's
issues
of
peak
hours
that
it's
generated
and
there's
issues
relative
to
the
maybe
the
the
length
of
trip
that's
generated,
so
a
Costco
will
attract
more
a
vehicle
from
further
away
than
say
the
two
Post
Offices
here
at
these,
this
General
location,
but
generally
speaking
commercial
in
my
experience,
is
Will
generate
more
especially
if
as
it
becomes
more
viable,
but
it's
not
a
straight
Apple
samples
comparison,
but
even
within
residential
that
can
vary
empty
nesters,
lower
traffic
counts
school
age,
slightly
higher
so
forth.
AQ
B
AQ
AQ
Commissioner,
back
I'm
I'm,
not
a
a
traffic
engineer,
there's
terrific
engineer
at
acht
it's
in
the
packet
there
again
it's
about
Peak
trips,
people
leave
for
work
and
come
home
from
work
at
the
same
time
or
school
starts
to
stop
commercial
activity.
Is,
is
a
broader
time
frame
likely
but
higher
overall
number
of
trips.
That
still
also
are
impacted
by
the
the
peak
and
the
flow
of
people
going
to
and
from
work.
So
they
will.
AQ
They
will
drop
in
and
grab
that
gallon
of
milk,
so
that
all
ties
together
in
there
and
that's
that's
the
offer
I
can
answer
I
can
offer.
Thank.
A
A
W
I
think,
before
addressing
the
main
contention,
just
one
of
the
items
that
was
brought
up
was
with
regard
to
the
school
district
prior
to
submitting
the
application
or
immediate,
or
shortly
after
somewhere
around
the
beginning
of
this
process.
We
reached
out
to
the
school
district
and
they
indicated
that
they
had
no
problems
and
that
this
development
would
not
have
any
impact
on
their
overall
population.
W
If
you
require
any
notes
or
who
specifically,
we
spoke
to
at
the
county,
we'd
be
happy
to
provide
that
I.
Think
the
main
General
concern
here
if
we
were
coming
in
and
the
proposal
was
to
replace
an
Ace
Hardware
or
an
Italian
restaurant
or
a
Costco
I,
would
be
lining
up
with
the
neighbors
in
opposition
to
that
replacement.
W
I
think
this
has
been
presented,
as
would
you
like
some
homes
here,
or
would
you
like
an
Ace
Hardware
or
some
type
of
commercial
store
or
some
type
of
commercial
use
and
reality?
That's
not
a
fair
comparison,
because
the
one
option
doesn't
exist,
it
hasn't
existed
for
16
years
and
they're.
As
far
as
I'm
aware,
there
are
no
developers
here
presenting
an
application
to
put
any
commercial
uses
there
with
current
shifts
in
the
economic
wins.
W
As
recent
recently,
it's
doubtful
that
any
new
development
from
a
commercial
side
will
be
coming
anytime
soon,
so
I
I
think
it's
an
unfair
comparison
to
say:
would
you
rather
have
one
or
the
other
when
one
of
them
is
clearly
not
an
option?
W
I
think
the
other
issue
that
I'd
like
to
address
is
just
the
benefit
of
having
an
actively
managed
rental,
complex
I.
Think
there
were
a
lot
of
concerns
about
changing
oil
in
driveways
car
break-ins
parties.
I.
Think
some
of
the
specific
examples
about
the
challenges
that
are
being
had
within
with
rentals
that
are
within
the
Hazelwood
Community,
as
well
as
some
of
the
other
communities
or
the
developments
that
were
for
sale
and
are
now
being
used
as
for
rent,
emphasizes
the
importance
of
a
well-managed
rental
Community.
W
I
think
the
other
issue
that
I
think
came
up
frequently
towards
the
end
was
the
amount
of
open
space
as
it
relates
to
the
ability
of
a
dog
or
children
to
have
what
I
would
consider
or
what
was
addressed
as
kind
of
a
appropriate
space
for
them.
As
mentioned
in
our
initial
presentation,
our
community
has
significantly
more
open
space
than
is
than
currently
exists
in
successful
multi-family
communities
in
the
area.
W
I
would
not
want
to
tell
any
of
the
people
who
live
there,
that
their
children
or
their
pets
somehow
live
some
type
of
lesser
lives,
because
they
have
such
little
open
space.
What
we're
presenting
in
terms
of
both
open
space,
the
the
backyards,
the
amenity
decks,
which
I
would
argue,
are
very
significant
in
terms
of
the
square
footage
allocated
to
the
clubhouses
and
the
pools
and
the
tot
Lots.
W
The
dog
parks
are
quite
significant
for
multi-family
development
and
are
going
to
be
a
need
to
be,
if
they're,
going
to
attract
the
types
of
renters
that
we
need
to
fill
in
there.
If
those
aren't
insufficient
we're
going
to
be
the
ones
who
are
going
to
be
harmed
much
more
than
the
neighborhood.
We
have
a
long
history
of
building
these
types
of
communities
and
we're
pretty
good
at
understanding
and
knowing
what
those
types
of
requirements
are
I
think
that's
all
I
got.
Thank
you
for
your
time
appreciate
it.
Thank.
C
W
Sensor
where
the
arrow
is
Clubhouse
and
it's
a
lawn
area
there,
that's
not
for
the
pets.
What
we
found
historically,
that
you
put
a
big
open
field
with
grass
and
a
lot
of
pets
on
it.
It
ceases
to
be
a
big
open
field
to
press.
The
dog
lot
is
up
in
the
top
corner,
I,
don't
know
if
that's
a
corner,
but
where
the
circle
is
behind
those
residences
and
that
will
be
filled
with
some
type
of
deg
or
bark
or
something
that's
will
be
less
likely
to
be
torn
up.
W
Clubhouse
pool
there'll
be
a
lawn
near
the
pool
you
can
see
just
to
the
beneath
that
Circle.
That
will
be
an
open
space
lawn
right
there.
The
dog
park
up
above
I
know
there
was
discussion
about
putting
a
Tot
Lot
in
and
I'm,
not
sure.
If
that
was
going
to
the
side
of
the
pool
there.
C
Okay,
so
I
I
mean
the
the
price
point
you
have
these
ad
for
renting
it's
it's
going
to
bring
in
a
more
fluent
renter
right.
I
would
imagine
that
there
might
be
looking
for
sort
of
that
kind
of
Hyde
Park
experience
where
they
can
walk
to
little
shops
and
so
they're
going
to
be
leaving
their
neighborhood
to
go.
Look
for
additional
recreation
activities
like
everyone
in
the
in
the
other
subdivision
as
foreign.
W
C
Mean
do
you
worry
that
that
you
don't
have
enough
amenities
to
sort
of
create
that
you
know
live
work
area
live,
create
area
recreate
where
people
don't
have
to
get
in
their
cars
to
go
somewhere
else.
They
could
just
walk
down
to
their
local
coffee
shop.
No.
W
W
I
think
the
amenities
that
are
within
the
community
are
sufficient
for
the
types
of
amenities
you
would
expect
within
this
type
of
multi-family
development
in
terms
of
their
proximity
to
other
locations,
malls
shopping,
larger
Parks,
movie,
theaters
I
think
it's
appropriate
for
what
this
type
of
suburban
area
I
don't
think
that
would
be
a
detriment
in
our
ability
to
bring
in
Renters
of
the
caliber
that
we're
looking
for.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner,
back
any
questions
that
you
have
the
applicant.
W
Right
now,
it's
not
even
gravel.
It's
an
empty
dirt
lot.
C
And
so
I
mean
if
this
plan
gets
denied,
there's
no
telling
when
that
could
be
developed
in
the
future.
It
could
remain
a
a
gravel
dirt
lot
indefinitely.
It.
C
W
Think
that
response
is
probably
indicative
of
what
the
neighbors
really
want.
I
think
they'd
like
it
to
remain
open.
Please.
A
A
You
thank
you,
everyone,
so
at
this
point
any
exhibits
that
we
have
left
to
enter
in
we're
all
good.
Okay,
we've
covered
every
testimony.
We've
got
no
one
on
WebEx,
we're
all
good
to
close
Okay.
At
that
point,
then
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing
on
project
two:
zero:
zero,
six,
zero,
zero,
zero,
seven
one
z,
c
d,
a
m
and
202201253
MSP
and
I
will
open
it
up
for
deliberation
from
the
board.
So
he'd
like
to
kick
it
off.
C
Well,
maybe
I'll
kick
it
off,
so
I
have
some
concerns
and
obviously
we're
hearing
substantially
from
the
neighborhood
and
the
public
that
they
are
opposed
to
this,
and
so
I
I
have
to
weigh
that.
In
my
consideration,
I've
heard
from
the
planning
zoning
committee
in
the
city
of
Boise
that
they
didn't
feel
this
was
compatible
either.
C
I
am
a
little
bit
troubled
by
the
perception
that
you
know.
People
want
to
act
like
somebody
else's
property.
Is
a
restaurant
menu
that
they
can
just
order.
The
things
that
they
want
to
put
on
a
development.
It
doesn't
really
work
that
way.
If
this
project
is
denied
in
favor
of
a
commercial
development,
there's
no
guarantee
commercial
will
ever
be
built
there.
It
could
be
a
gravel
lot
indefinitely
or
it
could
be
commercial
Enterprises
that
the
neighborhood
doesn't
want
either.
C
You
don't
necessarily
get
to
pick
what
what
you
want
on
somebody
else's
property,
but
that
being
said
it
was,
it
is
Zone
commercial.
It
was
zoned
that
way
for
a
reason-
and
I
am
you
know,
hearing
from
the
neighbors
that
they
don't
find
this
to
be
compatible?
Is
is
I,
guess
compelling
to
me
and
so
I'm
having
trouble
finding
that
this
may
be
in
in
the
best
interest
of
the
community.
A
Well,
what
I
really
like
the
product
and
I
think
that
the
Builder
has
a
great
reputation?
No
doubt
about
that.
A
In
my
four
years
of
doing
this,
I've
never
had
450
people
oppose
a
project
and
most
of
them
I
would
say
almost
all
of
them
in
the
neighborhood
so
that
you
know
that
speaks
volumes
for
me.
I
think
we're
all
familiar
with
this
area
and
how
much
it's
grown
out
there
in
achd
I've
done
of
Brooks
still
on
with
us.
A
But
you
know:
they're
struggling
to
keep
up
achg
just
doesn't
have
the
ability
to
keep
up
with
the
growth
that
we've
seen
in
the
last
two
to
three
years,
and
someone
pointed
out
and
I
I
don't
need
to
have
Conor.
Take
a
look
at
the
stats,
because
I
think
we
all
know
that
there's
Locale
mural
Farms
Cuna
that
just
came
onto
Ada
County,
there's
probably
over
2
000
homes,
rooftops
units
that
have
already
been
approved
that
have
not
been
built
yet.
A
And
so,
when
you
take
that
into
consideration,
if
you
look
to
the
Future-
and
you
say
okay
in
two
three
years:
where
are
we
going
to
be
with
another
2
000,
maybe
3,
000
and
depending
on
Cuna,
what
they
tee
up?
That's
12
in
units
right
there.
If
I
remember
correctly,
you
know
we
don't
have
the
school
capacity,
they
they're
temporary
right
now,
so
I
know
for
a
fact.
We
don't
have
school
capacity.
That's
been
an
issue.
We
don't
have
the
road
capacity
right
now
we're
working
on
water
issues
out
in
the
southwest
area.
A
I,
don't
know
how
close
this
is
to
the
Wells
that
are
going
dry
within
a
couple
of
miles,
I
presume,
but
we're
having
severe
water
shortages
in
Southwest
Boise,
and
even
though
they're
hooking
up
to
violia
they're
still
going
into
the
same
aquifer.
It's
not
a
different
aquifer,
it's
just
deeper
you're
going
deeper,
and
so
that's
still
intermixes,
and
so
right
now
we've.
We
can't
put
a
moratorium
on
anything
because
we
haven't
gone
through
the
the
right
steps,
but
we
are.
We
are
having
severe
water
problems
out
there.
A
In
fact,
we're
having
a
community
meeting
tomorrow
night
out
in
this
neighborhood
I
think
blueprint
for
good
growth
is
one
of
the
best
documents.
I've
ever
seen
comprehensive
documents
planning
documents
from
2016.
We
had
testimony
of
former
development
services
director
here
tonight,
speak
to
that
and
I
think
that
we
would
probably
do
well
with
keeping
with
Comprehensive
planning
like
this
and
stick
to
this
C2.
It
doesn't
say
C1,
it
says
C2
and
they
knew
what
they
were
talking
about.
A
B
All
right
well,
thank
you.
I
think
there's
been
some
compelling
evidence
this
evening,
however,
the
the
overwhelming
amount
of
evidence
that
I
heard
was
traffic
issues
and
we
didn't
hear
much
from
the
school
district
about
the
lack
of
school
facilities.
That
may
be
something
coming
down
the
road,
but
they
didn't
I,
don't
think
they
suggested
that
for
this
particular
project,
and
so
it's
with
if
the
traffic
is
the
main
issue
and
Commercial
brings
more
traffic
I'm
kind
of
trying
to
understand
what
the
Nexus
is
there
is,
it
is.
AN
B
Compelling
case
as
you
as
you
suggest,
that
the
450
people
in
a
small
neighborhood
all
are
opposed
to
this.
There
must
be
something
wrong
that
I
heard
developers
say
well
if
this
is
if
this
is
rejected,
he's
going
to
go
and
get
a
higher
density
proposal
from
the
city
of
Boise,
so
I
really
I'm
kind
of
I'm
kind
of
a
mixer,
because
I
agree
with
what
with
what
commissioner
Davidson
suggested.
B
That
the
Planning
and
Zoning
is
not,
but
it's
not
like,
there's
not
much
of
pizza
orders.
They
can
choose
what
you
want
to
eat.
We
do
have
the
the
best
interest
of
the
community
at
heart,
so
I'm
actually
pretty
open.
If
you
quite.
A
C
Chair
I
would
say:
I'm
not
opposed
to
residential
in
this
development.
Even
you
know,
I'd
entertain
a
proposal
for
even
higher
density,
but
I
just
don't
know
if
this
is
the
right
plan
for
the
neighborhood
that
totally
excludes
the
possibility
of
some
commercial
and
so
I
mean
I'm,
certainly
open
to
entertaining
future
applications
that
include
a
mix
of
residential
and
commercial.
That
would
be
more
in
the
interest
of
the
neighborhood
like
I
said
I.
Just
don't
know
if
this
is
the
right
plan
for
that
particular
location.
A
I
would
be
open
to
further
applications
that
that
was
mixed
use.
I
think
that
would
be
a
really
positive
move
here
to
put
C2
retail
and
whatnot,
with
possibly
some
work-live
space.
If
you're
ready
to
make
a
motion,
I
think
somebody
will
probably
second
it.
C
And
I
certainly
don't
relish
denying
any
application,
because
I'm
generally
loath
to
tell
people
what
they
can
Academy
on
the
property.
However,
this
was
his
own
commercial
and
that
does
seem
like
that
was
the
intent
of
the
people
who
came
before
us
and
based
on
what
we
heard.
That
seems
more
appropriate
to
keep
it
or
at
least
consider
a
different
proposal.
C
So
I'm
going
to
move
to
uphold
the
decision
of
the
planning
and
zoning
committee
deny
application
number
two:
zero:
zero,
six:
zero,
zero,
zero;
seven
one
dash
zc
dash
d,
a
dash
M
and
two
zero.
Two
two
zero
one:
two
five
three
dash
MSP
again
we'll
uphold
the
decision
of
the
plan
decision
of
the
planning
and
zoning
committee
based
on
the
findings
of
fact
and
conclusions
law
contained
in
the
staff
report
and
the
testimony
heard
this
evening.
B
A
B
A
Aye
aye
guys
have
it
motion
carries
we
want
to
thank
everyone
here
tonight
for
being
so
polite
and
and
cordial
and
neighborly,
and
we
encourage
the
developer
to
keep
trying.
We
think
their
product
is
great.
We
think
their
reputation
is
great.
So,
let's
see
if
we
can't
come
to,
like
the
lady,
said
a
win-win
at
some
point.
Thank
you
very
much
meeting
adjourned.