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A
Evening
I'd
like
to
welcome
you
into
a
nice
public
hearing
before
we
get
started,
could
you
please
turn
off
your
cell
phones
or
other
electronic
devices
to
avoid
any
interruptions
and,
if
you're
planning
on
testifying,
you
need
to
sign
in
the
back?
If
you
haven't
already
done
so
so
today
is
Wednesday.
The
13th
day
of
September
time
is
6
p.m,
which
is
the
time
set
for
our
public
hearing.
A
Okay,
we'll
start
off
with
unfinished
business,
which
is
the
application.
A
C
A
D
B
A
C
A
Okay,
now
we
need
a
motion
to
table
this
to
October
11th.
C
I'll
move
to
table
application
number
202-201-624-s,
Dash
Vac
to
October
11
2023.
I.
C
A
Motion
carries
okay.
Next
up
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
on
application,
2023
a
zero
one.
Seven
two.
A
Cpa-Z-C-D-A-V-C-U-M-S-P
oryx
engineering
we'll
ask
our
staff
to
Corey
to
give
us
a
presentation.
Tell
us
about
this
application.
E
E
The
current
zoning
of
the
property
is
Rule
preservation
which
the
applicant
has
proposed
to
change
to
General
industrial.
The
purpose
of
the
general
industrial
district
is
to
encourage
heavy
Industrial
Development
by
providing
and
protecting
an
environment
for
such
development
subject
to
standards
that
protect
the
public
health
safety
and
Welfare.
E
The
rezone
to
Industrial
is
required
to
allow
for
the
proposed
development
of
a
sawmill
for
railroad
ties.
The
Sawmill
will
cut,
treat
and
store
railroad
ties
that
will
be
used
by
Union
Pacific
Railroad.
The
application
will
include
a
wood
treatment
and
Milling
facility
to
support
buildings
for
employee
restrooms,
break
rooms
and
offices,
vehicle
parking
and
access.
There
are
also
several
outdoor
storage
and
air
seasoning
locations
for
the
ties,
and
the
project
includes
extension
of
railroad
tracks
that
would
come
off
the
Union
Pacific
Railroad
main
line
and
toward
the
storage
areas.
E
The
ties
would
be
transported,
VIA
Rail,
as
conditioned
the
applicant,
will
be
required
to
provide
a
detailed
parking
plan
displaying
at
least
one
parking
space
for
every
two
employees
on
the
site.
At
one
time
there
are
some
residential
uses
in
the
area
two
residence
locations
that
are
over
a
thousand
feet
from
the
property
boundary
in
over
2500
feet
from
the
site
of
the
facility
on
the
property
there's
also
a
residence
known
as
the
Idaho
Potato
Airbnb.
This
residence
is
600
feet
from
the
property
line
and
around
2000
feet
from
the
actual
site
of
the
facility.
E
The
applicant
is
proposed,
proposing
to
utilize
septic
and
well
for
the
facility.
Idaho
Department
of
Water
Resources
will
be
required
to
provide
an
approval
for
any
new
water
Appropriations
and
the
applicant
must
provide
adequate
fire
flow
as
required
by
the
Idaho
State
Fire
Marshal
Central
District
Health
will
also
be
required
to
approve
any
sewage
Disposal
system.
E
Other
agency
comments
that
are
important
to
know.
We
include
we
had
additional
comments
from
the
fire
marshal
requiring
dust
collection
systems
for
the
mill
fire
flow
which
may
require
water
tanks.
Sprinkler
systems
in
some
buildings
and
they'll
be
required
to
do
a
comprehensive
review
when
the
building
plans
are
submitted.
E
A
variance
is
included
with
the
application
to
allow
for
the
outdoor
storage
areas
of
railroad
ties
not
to
be
screened.
With
six
foot
fencing
the
variants
would
not
Grant
or
write
your
special
privilege
as
Sawmills
and
Associated
Storage
aren't
allowed
use
in
the
general
industrial
Zone.
The
use
is
directly
related
to
support
of
the
railroad
and
direct
railroad
access
is
required
to
those
storage
areas.
The
production
of
the
ties
requires
airflow
that
may
be
hindered
by
the
required
screening
standards.
E
The
variance
relieves
an
undue
hardship
due
to
the
characteristics
of
the
site
as
the
location
of
the
facility
on
the
property
itself
acts
as
a
barrier
and
screening
measure.
The
variance
is
not
found
to
be
detrimental
to
the
public
health
safety
and
Welfare
responding
agencies
provided
common
conditions
of
approval,
and
there
were
no
neighbor
comments.
Provided
staff
concludes
that
this
application
complies
with
the
Ada
County
comprehensive
plan
and
the
Ada
County
code
and
recommends
approval
to
the
board.
The
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
also
recommended
approval.
E
Chairman,
we
do
have
the
legal
description,
but
there
were
Corrections
that
were
needed
and
that
has
to
be
included
in
the
development
agreement
resolution
and
ordinance
that
you
sign,
and
so
we
do
have
that
now
at
this
time.
But
we
didn't
have
time
to
have
those
drafted
and
signed
by
the
applicant
and
then
signed
by
you.
A
Okay,
all
right:
okay,
any
questions,
first
from
the
board
to
Corey.
A
B
I
have
a
question
regarding
the
the
Fire
Marshals
comments:
did
they
apply
to
anything
other
than
just
the
facilities,
because
it
says
here
the
would
be
sprinkler.
Alarms
will
be
required
in
some
buildings.
Is
that
the
only
fire
suppression
that
would
be
required.
E
Chairman
commissioner
Daly,
that
is,
the
fire
suppression
that
the
State
Fire
Marshal
requested
in
their
initial
comments.
However,
they
did
state
that
they
would
do
a
comprehensive
plan
when
the
building
the
actual
building
plans
were
submitted,
but
they
will
have
requirements
for
fire
flow
based
on
those
building
plans,
which
is
why
they
may
need
water
tanks,
and
you
know,
sprinkler
systems
in
certain
buildings
based
on
the
plans.
So
those
were
the
comments
that
were
provided
by
the
fire
marshal,
but
they
will
do
a
more
comprehensive
review
when
those
plans
are
submitted.
B
E
Chairman
commissioner,
Daly
I'm
not
sure
if
they're
going
to
have
additional
regulations
just
based
on
where
the
property
is
and
the
size
of
the
property
and
their
comments
were
specific
to
the
use
of
The
Sawmill.
Thank.
E
G
G
You,
as
you
are
aware,
we
are
applying
for
several
items
tonight
on
behalf
of
ameritized
Holdings.
These
applications
include
a
comprehensive
plan.
Amendment
zoning
ordinance
map
Amendment
to
rezone
the
property
from
RP
District
to
the
M2
District,
along
with
a
conditional
use
in
a
master
site
plan
application.
The
comprehensive
plan
map
amendment
is
needed
to
change
the
future
land
use
designation
from
agriculture
non-irrigated
in
rangeland
to
Industrial
to
support
the
rezone
of
the
property
from
RP
to
M2.
G
We
feel
that
the
industrial
land
use
category
is
the
right
fit
for
this
project
as
it's
not
suitable
use
within
City
areas
of
City
Impact,
specifically
with
it
requiring
railroad
access.
The
conditional
use
application
is
needed
due
to
the
recent
zoning
ordinance
text,
amendment
that
was
heard
and
approved
on
June
14th.
The
amendment
more
fully
supports
the
industrial
zoning
outside
an
area
of
City
Impact,
and
we
work
closely
with
Richard
Beck
in
the
planning
team
to
ensure
our
application
aligned
with
the
new
text.
G
As
you've
heard,
the
proposed
use
of
the
site
is
for
a
sawmill
that
will
cut,
prepare,
treat
and
store
railroad
ties
that
will
be
used
by
Union
Pacific
Railroad.
These
include
a
wood
treatment
and
Milling
facility
to
support
buildings
for
employee
restrooms,
break
rooms,
offices,
vehicle
parking
and
access.
As
you
can
see
on
the
site
plan,
can
you
go
to
the
next
slide?
Thank
you.
G
Step
One,
the
pre-treatment
processing
ties
arrived
to
the
site
via
Railcar
ties
are
then
inspected,
trimmed
and
placed
into
bundles,
and
these
bundles
are
then
stacked
in
rows
for
air
drying,
and
that
process
takes
three
to
six
months
next
slide.
Step.
Two
is
loading
for
treatment
once
dry?
The
tie
bundles
are
then
loaded
into
tram
carts
for
treatment.
G
The
third
step
is
the
actual
treatment
and
those
tram
carts
full
of
ties
are
pushed
into
the
large
pressure
cylinders.
The
pressure
cylinder
doors
are
then
sealed
and
the
treating
process
begins
a
creosote.
The
wood
preservative
of
choice
for
rail
ties
is
absorbed
by
the
ties
through
the
treating
process.
Once
the
treating
process
is
complete,
the
tram
carts
containing
the
now
traded
ties
are
removed
from
the
pressure,
cylinders
and
the
final
step.
Four
is.
G
Shipping,
the
treated
ties
are
then
either
directly
loaded
into
array,
cars
for
immediate
off-site
shipment
or
stored
in
stacks
for
inventory
for
later
shipment,
along
with
our
other
applications,
we
are
also
requesting
a
variance
to
allow
the
use
to
be
outside
of
an
enclosed
structure
and
per
coat.
The
outdoor
Thai
storage
areas
will
need
to
be
screened
from
public
view,
with
a
six
foot
minimum
fence,
as
you
saw
in
previous
slides,
the
railroad
ties
must
be
seasoned
properly
before
being
treated
with
an
oil-based
preservative.
G
The
process
to
season
railroad
ties
is
called
air
seasoning
and
is
accomplished
by
stacking
ties
in
a
manner
permitting
air
to
flow
freely
around
and
between
each
tie
ties
being
air
seasoned
are
held
in
Stacks
until
they
reach
the
proper
moisture
levels.
As
I
said,
this
process
can
take
several
months
and
the
fencing
could
hinder
the
air
seasoning
process.
G
We
want
to
note
that
this
site
was
specifically
chosen
for
its
location
next
to
the
railroad
for
it
not
being
part
of
a
City
Impact
area
and
for
its
distance
away
from
Neighbors.
As
was
also
stated
in
this
staff
report,
we
feel
that
the
property
size
itself
acts
as
a
barrier
from
surrounding
properties,
as
the
site
is
over
400
Acres.
As
you
noted
earlier,
the
actual
development
will
be
located
towards
the
middle
and
close
to
the
tracks.
G
You
can
kind
of
see
how
large
the
parcel
is
on
this
slide
and
how
the
placement
of
the
actual
development
will
be
a
little
bit
more
towards
the
center,
giving
ample
space
between
our
neighboring
properties.
The
next
slide
shows
a
Drone
footage,
video
that
shows
you
kind
of
Us
coming
up
from
where
we
anticipate
those
buildings
to
be
and
just
kind
of
taking
a
slow
360..
G
G
A
G
South,
you
can
see
the
training
center
down
there
and,
as
we
finish,
looking
all
the
way
East,
you
can
see
the
Idaho
Potato
Hotel
and
the
continuation
of
the
railroad
tracks
and,
as
you
pointed
out,
it
really
is
an
isolated
piece
out
there.
That
kind
of
shows
that
a
little
bit
better,
the
next
couple
slides
show
just
some
distances:
I'm
from
the
North
View.
These
aren't
exactly
true
north,
but
you
can
see
that
there's
no
residential
uses
nearby
in
that
direction
same
for
the
next
slide,
showing
the
West
View
and
the
South
View.
G
You
can
see
that
there
was
the
orchard
Combat
Training
Center,
the
measurement
from
of
the
approximate
location
of
the
building,
so
that
Center
is
about
9
000
feet
away
and
to
the
West.
You've
got
the
Idaho
Potato
hotel,
that's
about
3,
500
feet
and
there's
residential
kind
of
to
the
north
of
the
potato
hotel
and
that's
about
4
000
feet
away,
and
so
we
feel
like
these
distances,
create
accurate
barrier,
and
hopefully
you
feel
that
way
as
well.
G
G
If
we
go
back
to
slide
seven,
you
can
kind
of
see
those
railroad
tracks
coming
back
onto
the
site.
The
fencing
requirement
would
hinder
workflow
and
access
to
the
storage
areas
and
would
mean
a
gate
would
be
required
for
the
trains
to
enter
the
storage
area.
The
granting
of
this
variants
would
not
conflict
with
the
public
interest
or
be
detrimental
to
public
health,
safety
and
Welfare.
The
site
is
situated
in
an
area
that
is
away
from
any
substantial
residences,
businesses
and
amenities.
G
In
addition,
our
application
also
complies
with
all
applicable
County
ordinances
and
Ada
County
code
sections,
Horrocks
and
our
client
have
reviewed
all
conditions
of
approval
and
are
happy
to
abide
by
them
all.
We
understand
that
these
include
submitting
a
landscape
plan
lighting
plan,
detailed
parking
plan
working
further
with
the
fire
district
obtaining
building
permit
permits
and
working
with
Central
District
Health
online.
We
do
have
emeritized
President,
Jeff
Thompson
and
their
engineering
manager
Jace
Jones.
They
aren't
here
as
part
of
the
presentation
but
are
available.
A
C
H
Perfect,
this
is
Jace
Jones,
the
engineering
manager
for
emeritize.
A
No,
that's
fine
go
ahead.
Okay,.
H
All
right,
yeah,
so
to
answer
your
question
regarding
the
number
of
rail
deliveries,
we
expect
about
three
deliveries
per
week
via
VIA
train,
be
a
real
car.
C
Yes
and
then
are
you
guys
going
to
be
open
on
the
weekend?
Are
you
closed
for
business
on
Friday,
Saturday,
Sunday.
H
H
C
Okay
and
then
you
know,
as
far
as
the
the
fencing
goes
you're
asking
for
a
variance
to
not
have
to
do
that.
Have
you
reconsidering
in
your
Landscaping
plan,
any
kind
of
trees
or
any
kind
of
coverage
with
with
the
Landscaping.
G
It
definitely
could
be
considered
absolutely
I.
Don't
think
we've
gotten
that
far
along
into
the
design
process
at
this
point,
but
absolutely
it
could
be
considered.
C
And
you
have
have
you
had
any
discussions
with
the
the
Big
Potato
people.
G
There
have
been
discussions,
I
believe
between
the
client
and
them
they
seem
to
be
okay
with
it.
Their
their
water
comes
from
a
well
located
on
our
parcel.
B
Mr,
chairman
I,
have
a
question
good.
My
question
is
a
follow-up
to
the
one
I
asked
staff
regarding
the
fire
suppression
is
going
to
be
beyond
the
buildings,
because
one
of
the
the
the
comments
the
staff
report
says
the
fire
marshal
says
I
strongly
recommend
that
firewise
Landscaping
be
incorporated
into
into
the
site
plan
in
the
area.
So
do
you
back
to
what
commissioner
Davidson
mentioned?
Is
there
any
kind
of
landscaping
envision.
G
I'm
sure
that
there
will
be
some
I'll,
let
Jace
clarify
if
I'm
wrong,
but
if
there
were,
we
would
follow
those
fire
safe
instructions.
I
know
that
some
of
them
are
to
keep
those
Landscaping
a
certain
amount
of
distance
away
from
roadways
and
different
things.
We
would
want
to
definitely
get
to
work
with
the
fire
department
make
sure
we
were
abiding
by
all
rules.
A
Good
okay
I
understand
that
the
train
will
bring
in
already
pre-cut
ties.
Is
that
correct.
H
Yes,
that's
correct.
They'll
come
in
they'll
come
in
roughly
precise.
We
have
to
do
a
little
bit
of
trimming
to
get
them
to
the
exact
length.
That's
required.
A
G
A
Okay,
and
so
how
many
of
these
ties
do
you
plan
on
processing
on
a
daily
weekly
average.
I
H
A
C
H
Yeah
so
the
you
know,
all
our
treating
vessels
are
all
sealed
and
isolated,
and
you
know
Vapors
off
of
those
tanks
are
off
of
those
pressure
vessels
where
the
treating
happens.
They
are,
you
know,
rerouted
back
to
the
work
tanks.
So
yes,
in
that
regard,
you
know
vapor
and
they'll
be
inside
of
inside
of
the
bill,
our
building
itself.
So
there
will
be
multiple
layers
of
vapor
containment.
H
A
A
B
Okay
did
I
understand
you
correctly
to
say
that
the
potato
Motel,
whatever
they
call
it
is
getty,
gets
their
water
from
a
well
on
the
site.
On
your
side,.
B
A
Okay,
I,
don't
have
anyone
sign
up
to
testimony
to
testify.
Is
this?
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
that
wishes
to
speak
on
this
either
for
or
against.
A
C
I
guess
just
trying
to
think
about
the
the
noise
aspect,
I
suppose,
if
they're
open
24
hours-
or
maybe
you
know
back
up
alarm-
sounds
from
some
of
the
Industrial
Equipment.
Does
it
would
that
fall
under
our
noise
ordinance
that
you
know
that
you
should
the
neighbor
shouldn't
be
able
to
hear
back
up
or
industrial
noises
after
10
pm.
D
And
Mr
chairman
Commissioners,
that's
a
good
question,
I
think
with
this
this
entitlement
it
would
be
under
your
purview
to
to
permit
that
as
part
of
the
use,
definitely
something
that
you
can
take
into
consideration
as
you
make
a
decision
that
that
that
could
occur.
C
Well
like
it
would
only
be
the
probably
the
potato
hotel
and
if
you
know
if,
if
the,
if
the
noise
was
substantial
because
it's
night
and
it
carries
over
there
that
just
be
concerned,
it
would
hurt
their
business,
but
I
don't
know
if
the
applicant
had
any
any
response
to
that
or
wanted
to
have
any
comment
or
anything.
You
said
you
were
having
some
conversations
with
them.
G
A
H
So,
generally
our
no,
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
forklift
up
traffic
going
on
at
night.
It's
significantly
reduced.
You
know
a
lot
of
our
what
we
would
call
preparing.
The
ties
for
the
treatment
process
happens
during
the
day,
and
so
you
know
at
night
you
know
there'd
be
very
minimal
noise.
You
know
it,
maybe
maybe
one
maybe
a
mild
forklift,
but
that
would
be
it
would
be
a
lot.
All
of
our
outdoor
noise
would
be
much
more
concentrated
during
daytime
hours.
A
Okay,
thank
you
all
right
and
you
don't
have
anything
to
add
to
the
record.
So
with
that
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
on
an
application.
Two
zero
two:
three
zero
one:
seven,
two
CPAs
ecdav
c-u-msp
Engineers
application
being
closed.
It's
in
front
of
the
board
there's
been
a
request
to
to
table
it
to.
K
Chairman
Commissioners
I
think
we'd
like
to
add
the
two
presentations
provided
as
exhibits
to
the
record
just
to
let
you
know
that
that
will
be
part
of
the
record
moving
forward.
So.
E
Yeah
chairman,
the
applicant's
presentation
will
be
exhibit
34
and
staff's
presentation
would
be
exhibit
35.
A
Okay:
okay,
that's
been
added
to
the
record;
okay
and,
and
you
needed
to
there's
a
couple
items
you
needed
to
correct
on
the
legal
description
and
on
what
else.
E
Chairman
there
was
a
correction
needed
to
the
findings,
just
the
date
for
the
Planning
and
Zoning
hearing,
which
was
August
10
2023..
The
legal
description
has
been
corrected
that
will
just
need
to
be
included
in
the
final
documents
that
you
will
sign.
If
you
choose
to
approve
at
the
September
28th
open
business
meeting.
A
All
right
anything
else,
so
so
the
the
are
they
carrying
is
closed,
and
so
the
application
is
before
the
board
and
the
request
is
to
table
it
to
the
28th
of
of
September,
to
the
open
business
meeting
for
approval
and
and
assigned
final
documents.
Is
there
chairman.
E
B
Motion
Mr
chairman
I,
moved
to
approve
application,
20
230172,
CPA,
z,
c
d,
a
v
c:
u
m
s,
p
Horrocks
engineering
and
table
it
until
the
September
28th
meeting
open
business.
That's
correct,
open
business
meeting.
E
Chairman
commissioner
Daley,
your
motion
covers
everything.
Thank.
A
You
all
right
do
we
have
a
second
of
the
motion
I'll.
Second,
that
okay,
you've
heard
the
motion
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye,
aye
aye
motion
carries
thank
you.
A
Okay,
next
up
I'll
open
the
public
hearing
on
application;
two:
zero:
two:
three:
zero:
zero:
five:
three:
two
z
c
d:
a
v
c:
u
m
s:
p:
b:
m
s:
p,
PBA,
Dennis,
Fox,
okay,
hearing
me
an
open,
we'll
ask
staff
Leon
to
walk
us
through
it.
K
Thank
you
all
right.
Thank
you,
chairman
Commissioners.
The
application
before
you
or
applications
are
for
a
zone,
change
development
agreement,
variance
conditional
use,
Master
site
plan
and
a
property
I'm.
Sorry,
I'm
gonna
get
some
stuff
out
there
and
the
property
boundary
adjustment
for
a
Contractor
Yard.
The
applicant
is
KM
engineering.
K
Well,
sorry,
the
sort
of
properties
are
a
0.68
acre
parcel
Zone
to
State
residential
located
in
the
bottom
of
the
screen
here,
highlighted
in
red
and
a
3.12
acre
parcel
zoned
Airport
Industrial.
If
the
project
is
approved,
the
smaller
parcel,
where
the
contractor
yard
is
proposed,
be
increased
to
0.85
Acres
current
uses
on
the
side
are
on
the
smaller
piece,
single
family,
home
and
some
accessory
structures,
and
then
single
family,
home
and
I
think
a
temporary
living
quarters
on
the
Northern
property.
K
Pictured
here
is
the
proposed
layout
of
the
project,
which
includes
repurposing,
the
roughly
700
square
foot
dwelling
into
an
office
for
the
contractor's
yard,
as
well
as
making
use
of
the
three
existing
accessory
structures
for
storage
for
the
business.
The
proposed
parking
plan,
which
includes
three
parking
spaces,
one
of
which
is
Ada,
meets
80
County
codes
requirement.
The
option
has
requested
a
third
submittal
of
the
Landscaping
plan
to
be
approved
by
the
director
and
that's
a
common
practice
for
conditional
use
permits.
K
The
requested
variance
is
to
allow
for
the
existing
structures
to
encroach
into
the
20-foot
side
yard
setback
pictured
here
on
the
Northern
side
of
the
property
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
variance
request,
largely
because
the
most
affected
property
owner
is
part
of
the
application
and
has
no
problem
with
reducing
the
setback.
In
addition,
the
setback
is
only
created
by
the
fact
that
that
property
to
the
north
is
currently
Zone
residential
and,
as
you'll
see
in
subsequent
slides,
the
area
is
going
industrial.
K
It
is
highly
likely
that
property
is
reason
Industrial
in
the
near
future
and
therefore
the
setback
requirement
wouldn't
be
a
problem.
No
comments
from
agencies
had
any
issues
with
the
variance
request.
We
also
heard
nothing
from
the
public
in
regards
to
that
variance
request.
So
again,
staff
is
recommending
approval.
K
K
In
regards
to
zoning
properties
in
the
surrounding
area
are
zoned.
Industrial
estate,
residential
and
Rural
Southwest
surrounding
uses
are
primarily
Industrial
in
nature,
which
is
supported
by
this
area
being
located
in
the
Boise
Airport
influence
area
C,
which
restricts
residential
development
and
promotes
Industrial
and
Commercial
development
like
that
being
requested.
K
Pictured
here
is
the
future
land
use
map
of
the
area.
The
subject
properties
designated
industrial,
which
also
supports
the
rezone
request
to
Industrial,
as
well
as
the
proposed
contractor's
yard
to
the
West
is
a
residential
designation,
but
everything
along
Banner,
Street
and
to
the
east
is
zoned
Industrial.
K
So
in
conclusion,
no
comments
were
received
from
the
public
in
terms
of
email
or
written
form.
However,
staff
myself
and
the
previous
planner
working
on
this
project,
Connor
Lindstrom,
did
field
some
calls
from
property
owners
in
the
area
largely
concerned
with
achd's,
not
requiring
improvements
to
Banner
Street
and
talking
to
some
of
these
individuals
who
you
might
hear
from
tonight,
it
has
been
a
consistent
practice
of
achg
to
require
Street
improvements.
However,
for
this
application
they
simply
did
not.
I
did
have
a
chance
to
speak
to
their
staff
today
and
ask
them.
K
You
know:
why
did
we?
Why
did
you
not
require
those,
and
they
said
well,
based
on
the
application
we
received?
There
was
no
increase
in
traffic
trips
and
that
sort
of
thing,
and
so
they
simply
didn't
require
them.
They
did
State,
however,
that
if
the
board
was
compelled
to
add
a
condition
that
required
those
improvements,
you
could
do
that
we
would
just
need
to
coordinate
the
installation
of
those
with
achd
as
ultimately,
that's
their
purview.
K
K
L
Evening,
thank
you.
Mr
chair
members
of
the
commission,
I'm
Stephanie
Hopkins
came
engineering,
5725,
North
Discovery
way
in
Boise
staff
did
a
wonderful
job,
describing
our
request
and
covered
all
the
details
really
well
so
I
do
have
a
presentation,
but
I'll
probably
keep
it
pretty
brief.
He
Leon
described
where
it
is.
It's
currently
zoned
R1
and
I'm
here,
representing
Fox
Heating
and
Cooling
Dennis
and
Kathy
Fox.
L
They
came
to
us
and
they
they
located
to
this
property,
not
realizing
that
it
was
zoned
residentially
and
became
aware
of
that
through
the
county
and
we're
trying
to
kind
of
bring
their
their
property
up
to
conformance
with
the
code
requirements.
So
we
did
a
survey
for
them
and
later
site
plan
out
to
kind
of
conform
with
Ada
County's
zoning
ordinance
mixed
slide
am
I
able
to
control
it
or
you
have
to
sorry
so,
as
Leon
described
the
property
as
largely
Industrial
in
use
and
partially
in
zoning.
L
The
subject
property
is
currently
zoned
R1
and
the
adjacent
property
to
the
north
Mr
Daniel
Price
owns
that
property
is
owned,
our
one
as
well
or
part
part
of
its
owned,
M3
and
then
part
of
its
R1.
We
are,
as
part
of
this
application
requesting
to
adjust
a
property
boundary
to
make
this
a
more
rectangular
piece,
so
it's
just
less
awkward
and
more
usable.
So
next
slide.
Please.
L
So
the
site
plan
I
think,
is
the
next
one
of
guns
skip
past
this
guy.
That's
the
seven
thousand
square
feet
that
we're
proposing
to
add
just
on
the
west.
This
is
the
property
boundary
adjustment
that
was
submitted
as
part
of
this
application.
It
depicts
the
setbacks
and
existing
structures.
So
there
is
an
existing
residence
on
site.
That's
almost
700
square
feet,
that's
being
used
as
the
office
and
a
couple
of
ancillary
storage
buildings
that
are
used
for
materials
that
they
use
for
jobs
so
slide.
Please.
This
is
the
site
plan.
L
We
are
proposing
a
conditional
use
permit,
as
well
as
a
master
site
plan
for
this
project,
as
I
mentioned
they're
planning
on
using
the
existing
building.
They
have
eight
employees
overall
for
service
trucks,
most
of
which
are
parked
at
employees
homes.
They
typically
go
from
job
to
job.
The
jobs
are
Drive
their
trucks
home
at
night
and
then
just
drive
them
directly
to
the
job
site.
In
the
morning
they
will
have
about
two
employees
in
the
office
every
day.
L
We've
we're
proposing
two
standard
spaces
and
one
Ada
space
and
we'll
bring
the
existing
building
up
to
building
code
requirements
as
far
as
ADA
requirements
so
ramps
and
make
sure
that
everything
is
accessible
for
folks,
there
is
a
20-foot
Drive
aisle
proposed
to
Banner,
Street
and
I.
Think
the
hours
of
operation
will
typically
be
8
A.M
to
5
p.m,
so
kind
of
your
typical
office
hours.
L
Next
slide,
please,
as
as
mentioned,
we
are
requesting
a
variance
for
the
setback
on
the
Northern
boundary.
It
varies
across
the
site,
but
it
is
below
the
15
feet
that
is
typically
required
for
residential
property,
a
budding
industrial
as
staff
mentioned,
it's
quite
possible
that
this
property
will
the
property
to
the
north
of
Redevelopment
industrial,
so
the
setback
probably
won't
impact
future
uses
there.
L
The
existing
property
owner
is
a
part
of
this
application
and
doesn't
have
any
problem
with
that
setback,
variance
request
so
we're
in
agreement
with
the
staff
report,
and
we
agree
with
all
the
conditions
of
approval.
The
property
owner
has
reviewed
the
development
agreement,
that's
associated
with
the
application
and
return
that
to
the
county
and
so
that'll
hold
them
to
standards
within
the
conditions
that
you
approved
tonight.
L
As
Leon
mentioned,
we
spoke
to
hhd
staff
too,
and
they
they
just
felt
that
because
this
is
a
pretty
minor
change
to
the
property
and
there
aren't
any
additional
traffic
or
trips
going
to
be
generated
that
they
didn't
want
to,
or
they
weren't
going
to
require
improvements
at
this
time.
So
the
property
owner
is
planning
on
redeveloping
the
site
at
some
point,
and
there
is
a
standard
condition
of
approval
in
achd's
staff
report.
L
I
think
it's
number
12
that
requires
that
any
change
to
the
prop
or
any
change
the
site
plan
would
have
to
go
before
them
in
any
improvements
that
would
be
required
at
that.
Time
would
be
determined.
So
that's
that's.
What
we're
asking
tonight
for
for
you
to
be
okay
with
is
to
uphold
achd's
recommendation
in
the
staff
reports.
That's
in
the
in
the
staff
in
the
overall
staff
report
to
hold
the
applicant
responsible
for
those
improvements
in
the
future.
L
At
this
point,
he's
planning
on
just
using
the
property
as
it
is
and
will
eventually
redevelop
it.
If
that
makes
sense,
so
appreciate
your
consideration
tonight,
the
property
owners
here
and
I
can
stand
for
questions
too.
Thank
you
all.
B
L
Mr
chair
commissioner,
daily
I
believe
that
the
way
the
condition
reads
is
that
if
the
site
plan
or
change
should
change
in
the
future,
the
planning
review
team
would
have
the
opportunity
to
read
the
site
plan
and
they
require
additional
improvements,
so
that
could
be
up
to
their
interpretation
and
maybe
our
80
County
staff
would
like
to
elaborate.
But
my
understanding
is
that
if
they
came
back
in
and
said,
we
want
to
expand
the
size
of
the
building
or
we
want
to
add
additional
employees.
L
L
A
That's
what's
on
site
right
now
is
just
the
trucks
going
back
and
forth
that
conduct
the
business
Mr.
L
K
Chairman,
commissioner,
is
the
gentleman's
approaching
these
will
be
at
as
exhibits.
The
two
presentations
I,
don't
have
an
exact
number,
but
I
can
promise
they'll,
be
exhibits,
I
apologize
for
not
having
that
number
in
advance,
but
we
will
include
both
my
presentation
and
the
applicants
as
a
part
of
the
record.
So.
C
M
Some
directly
to
the
South,
you
can
see
like
a
red
Conex
and
couple
of
outbuildings
and
some
some
little
stuff
there,
so
I'm
just
going
through
this
I'm,
actually
at
the
tail
end
of
this,
and
when
they
had
the
original
meeting,
I
didn't
feel
I
needed
to
come,
because
I
felt
that
all
the
requirements
that
I
was
you
know
had
to
go
through
would
be
passed
down
to
this
guy.
Extending
the
road
Frontage
widening
the
road
curb
got
her
sidewalk
Landscaping
plan
lighting
plan,
grading
and
drainage
right
now.
M
These
for
engineering
surveying
forty
four
thousand
violia
after
I
paid
to
put
the
water
line
in
fourteen
thousand
Ada
County
this
guy
10
grand
achd,
five
thousand
I'm
gonna
be
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
this
before
I
even
put
up
a
building
and
for
this
to
get
approved
without
all
the
same
requirements
that
I
was
forced
to
go
through
is
is
uncalled
for.
Curb
and
gutter
mandatory
all
the
same
stuff,
there's
more
than
two
two
people
there.
Every
day,
I
got
cameras,
they've
been
up
for
four
years.
I
can
promise
you
there's
way
more.
M
Not
everything
on
Banner
Street
is
industrial.
Obviously,
obviously,
if
you
saw
their
sign,
there's
four
or
five
places
that
are
still
residential
and
most
of
them
are
all
good.
They
all
know
this
is
all
going
industrial,
but
everybody
needs
to
meet
the
same
requirements
when
you
rezone
not
down
the
road
when
you
re-zone,
because
that
could
be
20
years
from
now,
where's
Connor
at.
M
C
M
Your
neighbors
so
a
little
background.
I
can
back
up
I
bought
the
property
I
think
nine
years
ago
and
17
I
got
a
notice
from
Public
Safety
Officer,
saying:
hey
you're
operating
business
out
of
a
residential
Zone.
You
can't
do
that
so
I
hired
a
wrecking,
Land
Design
start
developing
this
stuff.
Give
me
some
lenience
which
I
appreciate
I
was
able
to
get
development
plans
drawn
up
and
we're
moving
forward,
and
but
there
was
no,
you
can
still
operate
this
without
improving
all
this
land.
None
of
that
it
was.
M
You
have
to
do
all
this
stuff
which
I
understand.
If
you
look
down
the
street,
you've
got
tough
excavation,
you
spent
you
know
almost
a
million
just
in
infrastructure
and
Road
Frontage
work.
You
got
Tori
mcilvaine
spent
a
whole
bunch
of
money
in
infrastructure
and
work
on
a
building
that
he
sold.
So
it's
not
on
record
anymore,
but
he
did
that
he
got
B
wrecking
yard,
curb
gutter,
all
the
way
around
their
place
with
drainage
plans.
M
You
know
across
the
street
I
got
towing
companies
that
had
to
do
Road,
Frontage
and
curb
and
gutter,
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
this
comes
in
and
there's
nothing
so
everybody's
a
little
bit
on
edge
on
it.
So
you.
M
M
They
they
allowed
me
to
operate
as
long
as
I
was
pursuing
the
development
and
we
always
had
something
going.
There
was
some
pauses
obviously
ran
into
covid,
and
then
you
know
everybody
got
just
slammed
busy
around
town,
so
my
land
designer
it
took
longer
than
I
would
have
appreciated.
You
know
so
we're
a
couple
years
behind
schedule,
but
it's
happening
now
should
have
doesn't
have
nothing
to
do
with
building
a
brand
new
building
or
nothing.
A
Terry
Benson.
N
Maddie,
my
name
is
Terry
Benson
My
address
is
641
Tiffany
Drive,
Meridian,
Idaho
I
own
the
property
at
4256,
Banner
I
bought
the
property
probably
15
years
ago,
and
I
went
through
the
same
process.
That
Kelly
has
I
finished
mine
about
five
years
ago.
I
had
to
widen
the
road,
put
curb
gutter
sidewalk
in
beautify
it
with
all
the
trees.
N
I
think
I
ended
up
planting,
I'm,
going
to
say
45
trees
and
over
300
bushes
just
to
get
through
the
hurdles
to
so
we
could
have
the
business
there
and
then
this
I
look
at
the
master
site
plan
of
this,
and
he
doesn't
even
have
to
do
anything.
It's
just
open
it
up.
Well
we're
trying
to
beautify
the
neighborhood.
Is
that
that's
the
excuse
that
I
got
when
we
had
to
put
up
our
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
and
then
I
had
to
take
it?
N
Was
residential
I
had
to
go
commercial
I
had
to
put
all
handicap
ramps
in
handicapped
bathrooms
to
make
the
office
going
on
the
second
phase,
and
I
have
screen
fence
all
the
way
across
the
property
it
is
on
the
I.
Guess
you
say:
east
Southeast
side
that
bigger
lot
right
there,
the
opening
there
is
artilleryard.
N
We
had
to
jump
through
so
many
Hoops
just
to
get
going
there
that
it
probably
took
us
five
years
just
to
do
it
all
to
get
it
all
done.
The
thing
is
we
could
not
operate
on
that
property,
even
though
we
filed
for
everything
I
got
initial
use
permits
going
and
everything
else
whatever
we
couldn't
go
on
the
property
until
it
was
finaled
and
now
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
anybody
working
out
there
as
long
as
they
have
to
do
the
same
things
that
everybody
else
did
in
the
neighborhood.
N
So
if,
if
when
this
thing
got
brought
up
on
this
an
initial
site
plan
where
got
taken
to
Ada
County,
they
should
have
caught
all
this
and
it
shouldn't
even
have
gone
any
further
any
further.
They
should
have
got
it
and
had
them
do
it
all
all
everything
that
everybody
else
had
to
do
on
this
property
I
mean
we're
having
to
jump
through
hoops
I
honestly
think
they
should
have
to
jump
through
hoops
so,
and
we
had
to
do
it.
I
think
everybody
on
the
Block
had
to
do
it.
N
Jackie
said
BMW
had
to
do
it.
Tuffy's
had
to
do
it.
King's
got
to
do
it.
I
had
to
do
it
as
far
as
you
go
down
the
road.
It's
getting
curbs
gutter
on
on
the
the
east
side
and
on
the
west
side
is
getting
sidewalk
curb
and
gutter,
and
then
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
go
in
there,
and
this
guy's
got
more
than
four
or
five
trucks
coming
in
every
day.
He's
got
semis
delivering
his
stuff
and
there's
always
four
or
five
people
in
that
office,
not
just
one
or
two.
N
So
as
far
as
that
goes,
my
property
I
had
to
make
handicap
approved
and
everything
else
and
and
pour
concrete
put
in
a
bike.
Rack
I've
never
had
a
bicycle,
come
into
my
property
yet,
but
I
just
feel
that
waving.
Anything
should
not
be
done
when
we're
in
the
impact
area
for
Boise
city
and
it's
it's
airport,
Zone
I
agree.
It's
going
to
be
noise,
it's
going
to
be
industrial,
so
thank.
C
N
Both
of
them
the
highway
district
made
us
do
the
road
we
had
to
widen
the
road
and
we
lost
13
feet
of
our
property
to
widen
the
road
and
another
16
feet
to
beautify
it
with
our
landscaping
and
then
through
Ada
County.
It
was
their
deals
for
the
beautifying
to
move
the
fence
back
and
completely
enclose
the
fence,
so
nobody
can
see
what
we're
doing
back
there.
C
K
Commissioner,
before
I
jump
into
that
I
will
I
would
like
to
clarify
some
things
for
the
record
in
terms
of
what's
going
to
be
required
for
this
property,
an
upgrade
to
all
those
buildings
per
the
commercial
building
code
will
be
required,
so
Ada
accessibility,
things
like
that,
are
going
to
be
required
as
a
part
of
the
approval,
landscaping
and
screening
are
all
required
by
Ada
County.
So
I
think
this
starts
to
dovetail
with
your
question
about.
Why
do
we
ask
for
this
Landscaping?
This?
Isn't
the
area
of
City
Impact?
K
So
typically,
we
have
required,
particularly
in
these
areas,
based
on
kind
of
a
Cooperative
agreement
with
city
of
Boise,
that,
when
streets
are
improved,
they'll
be
improved
with
kind
of
their
standards,
to
a
certain
extent,
with
the
landscape,
buffers
along
the
street
and
Street
trees,
and
things
like
that
again.
That
would
also
be
part
of
our
Landscaping
code.
So
we
would,
we
would
be
asking
for
some
form
of
landscaping
along
the
front
of
this
project,
regardless
of
what
achd
does
beyond
that.
You
know,
I
think
the.
As
mentioned
during
my
presentation.
K
K
If
you,
you
would
like
to
require
those
things
again
as
to
why
they
didn't
do
it
for
this
one,
it
does
appear
to
be
a
bit
of
an
outlier
in
terms
of
how
things
have
gone
along
Banner,
or
this
says
Cameo
street,
but
I
think
Banner,
Street,
so
again,
everything's
short
of
Street,
widening,
curb
Gutter
and
sidewalk
are
going
to
be
required
in
terms
of
what
everyone
else
has
had
to
do.
K
B
K
C
Don't
know
if
we've
ever
dealt
with
this
similar
type
of
situation,
but
you
I
would
almost
assume
that
we
couldn't
compel
achd
to
do
to
enforce
anything
on
an
applicant
like
the
roads
are
not
our
pervio,
so
I
I'm,
we
do
we.
We
still
have
authority,
though,
to
require
roads.
It's
that's,
not
us
impeding
on
achd's
autonomy.
K
Yeah,
based
on
conversations
with
achg
this
afternoon
and
and
previous
conversations
with
them,
we
can
ask
for
more
than
what
they're
asking
for,
and
the
only
requirement
they
have
is
that
we
coordinate
those
improvements
with
them,
so
that
they're
designed
correctly
installed
in
the
right
place.
That
sort
of
thing,
but
is
that
the
discretion
of
the
County
and
jurisdictions
in
the
valley
to
say
achg
asked
for
this,
and
we
actually
want
more
than
what
was
in
your
review
or
to
even
disagree
with
achd.
It's
I
know.
K
B
Right
I
have
I,
have
another
question,
then,
in
in
that
regard
for
staff
or
either
how
much
of
banner
has
been
required
to
be
changed
is
that
is?
Is
this
property
here?
The
only
piece
left.
K
Yeah
I,
don't
think
so,
but
I'm
sure
these
gentlemen
could
probably
give
you
a
better
understanding
as
to
what's
been
built
out
here.
This
aerial
is
a
little
rough,
but
several
properties
have
been
required
to
make
those
improvements,
but
I
don't
have
a
percentage
or
a
total
amount
or
anything
like
that.
K
K
N
Thank
you,
sir,
redirect
by
good
Commissioners
thanks
your
daily
commissioner
Beck,
commissioner
Davidson.
The
thing
is:
I
talked
to
achd
today
and
I
talked
to
them
for
quite
a
while
on
the
phone
the
application
they
got
was.
He
was
already
in
there
doing
business
and
he
wanted
to
just
like
he
was
there
for
years
and
he
wanted
to
rezone
it.
That's
the
reason
that
they
didn't
do
anything
anything
more,
but
the
problem
is,
he
just
got
the
place.
N
He
hasn't
even
been
in
there
six
months,
probably
honestly,
and
he
does
have
a
lot
of
traffic
and
semi
people
delivering
so
and
everybody
else
is
not
I'm,
just
not
going
to
say
that
everybody
else
has
to,
or
he
doesn't
have
to
it's
just
that
that
they're
trying
to
make
it
better
in
a
better
area,
and
everybody
else
has
to
put
curb
and
gutter
in.
Why
doesn't
the
new
person
there's
another
guy
down
the
road?
That's
going
through
the
same
process?
That's
got
three
times
as
much
property
on
the
other
side.
N
If
what
happens
when
he
goes
to
put
his
in
he's
not
going
to
have
to
do
it,
he
doesn't
have
any
traffic
one
truck
a
day.
So
this
and
the
person
right
next
to
him
and
right
next
to
this
guy
had
to
do
it.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
big
void
without
curb
gutter
starting
widen
in
the
road.
It's
tough
to
get
out
of
your
driveway.
If
it's
not
widened,
go
back
into
King's
place,
you
can
back
out
now
he's
widen
the
road.
It's
nice!
It's
the
same
thing
with
them.
I
appreciate
it.
Commissioners.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right,
Jeff
Kade
Jeff.
J
Okay,
Jeff
gold
I
have
the
448
Banner.
O
J
J
J
J
I'm,
actually
in
the
process
of
re-application
I've,
had
had
the
approval
and
had
a
county
blunder,
and
it
timed
out
so
I'm
actually
going
through
the
process
again.
So
I
haven't
done
any
of
the
improvements,
but
they
are
all.
That
was
a
prerequisite.
We
that
wasn't
option
to
opt
out
of
weird
set
to
do
that.
J
So
we're
not
sure
why
how
they
can
just
put
in
for
the
approval
and
sidestep
that
that
part
of
it
was
not
optional
for
the
rest
of
us,
but
I
haven't
done
any
I
haven't
done
anything
because
I
don't
have
that
approval.
You
know
stay
in
bounds.
J
I've
almost
had
two
I
was
threatened
with
jail
time
and
probation
over
this
whole
thing,
because
I
didn't
get
stuff
done
in
a
time
frame
because
I
was
going
to
sell
the
property
and
we
had
a
bogus
complaint.
One
of
the
former
Property
Owners
filed
and
I
had
to
go
to
court
over
this.
It
cost
me
quite
a
bit
to
kick
this.
Can
down
the
road
until
I
got
my
approval
but
to
be
able
to
sidestep
this.
This
is
wrong.
J
A
A
A
Okay,
Stephanie
or
Dennis
you
you
have
time
for
a
rebuttal.
If
you'd
like.
A
P
Hi
Dennis
appreciate
your
time,
so
we
bought
the
property
over
a
year
ago.
I
think
it
was
2
000
either
the
end
of
2021
or
2022.
Beginning
we've
been
in
there
for
over
a
year
and
I
know
everybody's
pretty
worked
up
and
number
one
I
would
just
appreciate.
As
a
neighbor
come
talk
to
me,
I
mean
that's
all
we
need
to
do
I
know.
P
Originally,
there
was
a
complaint
that
we
were
operating
a
business
out
of
a
residential
zoning
property
and
that
would
have
been
cool
to
know
about
or
come
up
and
talk
to
me
there
all
the
time
very
reasonable
I
want
to
make
this
area
nice
also,
so
we
purchased
the
property
with
the
intent
of
running
our
heating
and
air
conditioning
company
out
of
it
we're
a
family
business.
My
family
actually
works
there.
P
All
my
my
three
kids
and
my
wife-
and
we
do
have
eight
people
on
the
payroll
to
be
very
clear
about
that
and
I'm
happy
to
show
that
our
technicians
work
from
their
house.
So
they
take
their
Vans
home
every
night.
They'll
show
up
to
the
office
if
they
need
Parks.
Sometimes
they
go
directly
to
people's
homes
and
take
care
of
things,
and
we
do
have
deliveries
from
our
suppliers
that
show
up
so
furnaces
or
parts
and
pieces
like
that,
and
so
we've
tried
to
facilitate
that
the
best
we
can
our
goal.
P
The
whole
time
is
to
try
to
keep
the
buildings
the
same
right
now.
We
do
not
want
to
expand
right
now,
as
we
grow.
Like
I
said
we
are
small
and
we
do
want
to
grow
in
the
future
when
we're
having
plans
for
that
right
now
and
at
that
time
we
do
want
to
build
and
we
do
want
to
increase
and
what
I
would
like
to
do.
I
mean
I,
I,
get
getting
the
driveway
and
the
curb
and
and
gutters,
and
and
all
of
that,
that's
no
stress.
P
But
right
now
we've
got
a
hundred
foot.
There's
a
hundred
feet
of
roadway
that
our
property
is
I,
know
Kelly's
about
250
feet,
I,
don't
know
what
Terry
is
or
what
everybody
else
is.
We
are
relatively
small.
We
have
some
extremely
large
trees,
which
are
a
pain.
I
would
guess,
one
of
them
being
original
about
80
years
old.
Other
ones
are
probably
50.
P
depending
on
where
and
if
you
guys
decide
to
say.
Yes,
you
need
to
put
curb
and
gutter
in
an
entrance
in
specific
what
I'm
really
concerned
about
is
right
now,
if
achd
says,
do
that,
but
put
it
in
the
middle
like
what
Kelly
indicated
they
had
him
do
because
of
different
right-of-ways
are
coming
out
onto
the
street.
It's
going
to
put
it
right
in
the
middle
of
the
property,
which
is
right
where
our
building
is,
which
is
just
a
little
tiny
house.
P
So
if
you
want
to
have
us
put
a
driveway
to
come
right
into
the
house,
that's
fine,
but
I
don't
want
to
have
to
remove
that
house
just
because
you're
telling
me
to
do
that
right
now
in
the
future,
when
we
do
build
and
clean
that
place
out
and
put
a
building
in
for
the
future,
I
want
to
have
carbon
gutter.
I
want
to
have
an
entrance
coming
in
and
have
everything
awesome,
I'm
I
get
that
they're
a
little
upset
that
they
got
forced
into
doing
things.
P
I
feel,
like
that's
kind
of
happening
to
me
right
now,
but
I'm
all
about
making
sure
that
as
we
move
forward,
things
are
done
properly
and
the
streak
is
developed,
so
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
sitting
at
right
now
I
didn't
realize.
There
was
an
issue
with
this
until
after
the
first
hearing
and
I
heard
that
somebody
had
called
in
and
I
went
over
and
talked
to
Kelly
and
found
out,
it
was
him
so
I
think
it's
just
all
about
communication
between
us
all
on
the
street.
P
If
you
force
it
at
this
point
and
we
go
down
that
road,
we're
in
the
mode
seriously
of
saying
we
may
back
out
of
this
whole
deal
and
keep
it
residential
and
just
make
it
a
rental
and
go
do
business
somewhere
else,
because
for
us
to
have
to
incur
those
costs
again
being
really
small
and
not
set
up
to
do
it.
I
may
be
forced
out
of
that
property
as
a
business.
It's
not
my
goal
at
all.
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
take
care
of
this,
and
do
it
right
so
I
appreciate
your
time.
A
L
You
Stephanie
for
the
record,
I
Dennis
covered
I
think
what
I
was
going
to
say
really
well.
This
is
I
think
partially
because
of
the
scale
of
the
project
and
just
the
step
in
which
he
is
in
the
whole
process.
So
the
gentleman
that
spoke
earlier
I
think
in
Leon
kind
of
talked
about
this
a
little
bit
I
think
they're,
probably
at
a
later
stage
of
the
process,
we're
kind
of
at
the
beginning
where
we're
looking
at
preliminary
requirements
and
we
haven't
gone
through
construction
plans.
L
Yet
we
haven't
submitted
our
lighting
plan
or
landscape
plans
or
really
determined
how
the
rubber
is
going
to
meet
the
road
which
is
I,
think
part
of
why
achg
is
maybe
putting
the
requirements
for
redeveloping
the
or
improving
the
frontage
300
100
feet,
Apprentice.
We
have
until
a
later
date,
when
Dennis
plans
to
actually
build
new
buildings
and
do
kind
of
a
big
Redevelopment
of
the
site.
So
that
is
all
I
had
to
say.
Thank
you
is.
P
Fine,
realistically
we're
looking
at
three
to
five
year
before
we're
going
to
be
ready
to
build
unless
growth
happens
within
our
company
exponentially,
which
I'm
not
planning
on
so
I
would
say.
The
earliest
would
probably
be
three
years
before
we
would
be
financially
set
to
be
able
to
build
a
building
and
and
go
that
way
and
growth
with
our
own
company.
B
A
B
What
is
the
overall
current
development
I
mean
it's,
obviously
it's
piecemeal
along
there.
So
what's
what's
the
status
of
development
I
mean?
Have
they
re,
have
the
achd
required
or
has
a
CHC
required
one
section
one
way
and
another
section
I
mean:
is
it
piecemeal
all
the
way
down,
Banner
or
cameo.
K
And
chairman,
commissioner,
again
I
think
the
gentleman
who
spoke
to
the
improvements
on
the
street
might
be
able
to
give
you
a
better
sense
of
that.
But
achd
requires
these
improvements
on
a
site-by-site
basis
and
the
the
unfortunate
part
of
that
is.
It
often
creates
kind
of
this
weird
hodgepodge
of
improvements
up
and
down
the
street
until
everything
can
finally
be
built
out
or
enough
of
it's
built
that
achd
can
come
finish
it
off.
But
looking
at
the
area
and
hearing
some
of
the
testimony
I,
you
know
it
sounds
like.
A
Okay,
the
question
I'd
have
for
you
is,
is
if
Mr
Fox
decides
in
three
to
five
years
to
expand
these
facility,
because
he's
apparently
made
this
application
based
on.
What's
the
current
use
is,
and
the
rezone
is
for
really
to
be
a
construction
yard
for
people
coming
in
and
out
of
there
and
work
on
is
that
is
that
correct?
A
K
Chairman,
commissioner,
any
change
to
an
approved
use,
substantial
change
and
again
that's
not
like
moving
a
shrub
somewhere
or
something
like
that,
but
you
know
increasing
a
parking
lot,
adding
a
new
building
things
like
that
require
what
we
call
a
modification
if
it
qualifies
under
a
certain
percentage
of
change,
those
are
processed
at
the
staff
level.
We
do
transmit
to
achd
for
those,
and
so
that
would
be
even
at
the
staff
level
modification
level,
both
the
county
and
achd
could
say:
hey
it's
time
to
do
these
improvements.
K
You've
you've
done
more
than
what
we
originally
approved.
If
they
go
beyond
a
20
change,
then
it's
a
full
new
conditional
use
permit
process
which
would
likely
be
heard
by
our
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
unless
there's
a
variance
or
something
else
attached
to
it.
A
So
these
these
requirements
in
unlikely
it
would
be
required
by
achd
yeah.
K
Certainly
I
mean
you
know
again:
achd
I
have
no
control
over
how
they
make
decisions
over
there.
What
level
of
change
they
deem
you
know
now
triggers
those
improvements
is
up
to
them,
but
we
also
again
based
on
the
conversation
today.
We
always
have
the
ability
to
request
those
improvements,
so
you
could
essentially
say
as
a
condition
of
approval.
Any
modification
to
this
site
will
require
the
installation
of
those
improvements.
You
could
add
that
as
a
condition
of
approval,
so.
K
Would
be
it's
just
that
again
sometimes
there's
these
low-level
modifications
where
achg
is
like.
We
don't
even
care
about
that.
We're
not
going
to
do
anything,
and
that
would
be
an
unfortunate
situation
because
it
sounds
like
we're
kind
of
hanging.
Our
hats
on
a
modification
of
this.
An
increase
to
the
intensity
should
prompt
the
the
installation
of
those
improvements.
So
again,
you
could
add
that
as
a
term
of
approval
or
a
condition
of
approval
to
the
project.
K
Again,
it
depends
on
if
it's
a
minor
change,
if
they
add
you
know,
they've
got
2
000
square
feet
if
they
add
500
square
feet
that
could
still
technically
qualify
as
like
a
staff
level.
Modification
and
achd
might
not
comment
might
not
require
those
improvements.
So
it's
really
your
discretion
to
understand
what
level
of
modification
you
of
Redevelopment
you're
comfortable
with
in
order
to
trigger
those
improvements.
B
K
That's
correct
and
I:
don't
have
those
thresholds,
you
know,
I,
don't
know
what
those
thresholds
are.
It's
an
achd
staff
determination
as
to
when
something
is
changed
enough
to
require
the
improvements.
So
I
can't
tell
you
what
the
number
is,
but
I
have
seen
several
modifications
to
approve
projects
that
haven't
prompted
new
achd
conditions
or
improvements,
or
things
like
that
so
certainly
possibility
they
could
modify
without
needing
without
ACC.
Saying
now
do
the
street.
K
B
K
Well,
I
mean
again
based
on
staff
conversation
today
and
I
brought
up
that
famous
kmst
case.
We
can
require
these
improvements
as
a
jurisdiction.
The
only
requirement
achd
has
is
that
we
coordinate
with
them
on
the
installation
of
design
or
design
an
installation
so
that
it
meets
their
their
policy
and
their
standards,
but
we
can
tell
them
we're
not
satisfied
with
no
improvements.
Here.
We
want
this
for
this
street.
We
we
always
have
that
ability
to
ask
for
that.
Based
on
conversations
I've
had.
A
All
right:
well,
is
there
any
before
I
close
the
public
hearing?
Is
there
any
more
additional
information
you
need
on
the
record?
No.
K
Nothing
again
if
you
are
going
to
add
conditions
or
make
some
new
findings.
We'd,
probably
ask
you
to
table
that,
but
we
have
everything
set
and
ready
to
go
if
you're,
okay,
with
what
staff's
recommend,
did
I,
give
you
a
little
bit
of
input.
Real,
quick.
O
My
name
is
Chad
spellitz
I
live
at
2413,
South
Monitor
way
run
the
yard
on
Banner
Street,
4256,
South
Banner
and
as
Leon's
talking
about
the
street
improvements
requirements
and
as
Mr
Beck's
talking
about
the
growth
of
the
buildings,
I
hope
develop
the
banner
yard
or
the
tow
yard,
and
we
did
not
make
any
buildings
larger.
We
do
not
make
any
things
all
we
did
was
change.
Interior
fences
and
they're
still
required
all
of
the
improvements.
O
A
Okay,
thank
you,
Anthony
all
right,
I'll,
close
the
public
hearing
on
application
20230.
A
A
P
To
that,
yes,
thank
you.
The
only
thing
I
would
say
about
the
tow
yard.
P
The
difference,
there's
a
pretty
big
difference
between
my
business
and
a
tow
yard
and
I
get
it
that
they
didn't
have
to
increase
their
buildings,
but
I
could
guarantee
if
that
was
a
residential
property
before
and
then
they
brought
a
tow
yard
in
there's
a
whole
lot
more
Vehicles
going
in
and
out
of
there
24
hours
a
day
that
would
require
or
may
need
a
better
driveway
to
go
through
in
and
out
all
the
time,
so
traffic
I'm
sure
did
increase
when
you
purchased
that
property
or
started
running
a
tow
truck
company
out
of
it,
which
would
be
a
little
bit
different
usage
than
I
have
right
now
and
again,
I
just
want
to
say,
I
have
no
problem
doing
this.
P
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
okay
and
then
we
have.
Anything
else
needs
to
be
out
of
the
record:
okay,
we'll
close
the
public
hearing,
I'll
close
public
hearing
on
application;
two:
two:
zero:
two:
three:
zero:
zero:
five:
three:
two
z
c
d:
a
v
c:
u
m
s,
p,
PBA,
okay,
and
now
it's
there's,
no
more
public
comment
or
no
more.
So
it's
up
to
the
board
now
to
make
a
decision.
Any
anybody
want
to
kick
it
off
or
you
want
to
have
a
discussion.
Oh.
B
Well,
Mr
chairman,
just
as
a
discussion
I
read
to
start
the
discussion,
I
guess
I'm
I'm
still
confused,
since
we
have
nothing
to
do
with
roads,
I'm
still
confused
about
our
authority
to
do
or
direct
Ada
County
Highway
District.
To
do
anything
so
I
guess
that
in
relation
to
what
the
rest
of
it
I
mean,
I
I'm
inclined
to
want
some
more
investigative
work
about
what
our
Authority
is
in
terms
of
making
road
restrictions
or
whatever.
Anyway,
that's
my.
My
inclination
is
to
find
out
more
information.
Well,.
A
It
seems
to
me
that
that
80
Canada
highway
district
sort
of
ponded
this
afternoon
when
you
talked
to
him
and
they
because
they
were
getting
some
feedback
from
their
neighbors
about
why
they
hadn't
done
something
and
I
guess,
and
so
they
made
it
appear
that
they
tried.
They
tried
to
to
punt
it
to
us
and
I.
Don't
think!
That's
appropriate
myself!
I.
A
Don't
think
that's
appropriate
for
them
to
pun
it
to
us
for
their
responsibility,
but
there
is
a
difference.
I
mean
the
the
applicant,
it's
a
it's,
a
it's
a
home
that
was
already
there
correct,
correct
and
they're,
not
building
anything
new.
They
started
a
business
there
and.
A
Right
and
that's
the
and
that's
what
what
we're
what
our
task
is
is
the
is
the
zoning
aspect
of
it
and
the
conditional
use
permit
and
all
that,
but
but
they're
not
building
anything
new
there
right,
that's
German,
no
new
structures,
no
new
structures
and
so
the
the
premise.
Now
we
could
I
think
it's
clear.
We
could
add
a
requirement
which
which
we
could
do
that
if
there's
a
substantial
Improvement,
Beyond
20
or
something
like
that,
we
could
do.
A
A
That
yeah
well
yeah.
We
talked
about
that
about
redundancy
right
and
but
but
we
could
add
a
requirement
like
that
and
I'd
feel
better
like
that.
I
don't
want
to
tell
acht
what
what
they
should
do
and
it
seems
to
be
an
increase.
Unfortunately.
So
the
the
main
issue
with
yeah
with
the
with
the
opponents,
is
with
acht
it's
not
with
us
because
they
didn't
require
it
and
we
can't
control
what
achd
does.
A
It's
the
hearing's
closed
so
anyway,
I
wouldn't
I
wouldn't
oppose
oppose
putting
that
requirement
on
that.
If
there's
any
any
Improvement
Beyond
20
percent
of
the
existing
structures
that
they
seek
achc
approval
for
that
for
the
road
go.
K
Ahead,
I
apologize
for
interjecting
the
record
that
would
already
require
a
new
conditional
use.
Anything
less
than
20
is
the
staff
level
modification
and
that's
the
dicey
area,
where
we're
uncertain
when
they're
going
to
ask
for
it
or
not
sounds
like
one
gentleman
with
new
fencing
had
to
go
through
this
process,
but
I've
seen
a
lot
of
modifications
that
achg
doesn't
even
comment
on
so
I
think
it
would
have
to
be
a
threshold
less
than
20
Justice.
Just
to
help
you
understand
the
nature
of
administrative
versus
full
new
entitlement.
A
Well,
okay,
so
we
could
say
that
then
15
percent,
we're
just
throwing
numbers
out
I,
do
think
that
there
that,
because
the
property
was
already
there,
it's
a
it's
a
home
that
was
that
was
being
used
and
they
bought
the
property
and
they
started
operating
a
business
out
of
it.
Is
that
not
correct
chairman
Commissioners?
That
is
correct
and
that's
why
they're,
but
they
had
didn't
get
the
the
appropriate
zone
until
now,
right,
it's
all
applicable
to
the
to
the
area
of
so
I
would
not
oppose
that
additional
restriction.
A
C
Well,
Mr,
chair,
I,
guess,
I'll.
Let
me
just
start
by
making
the
comment
that
you
know.
I
certainly
hope
that
the
the
neighbors
aren't
upset
at
the
applicant,
because
I
don't
think
the
applicant
did
anything.
It's
we're
talking
about
Ada,
County,
Highway
District
is
is
really
the
one
who's
kind
of
responsible
for
this
decision,
so
I
think
they're
the
more
appropriate
place
to
be
concerned
with
it.
Is
you
know
it's
a
it's
an
interesting
case:
I
mean
I,
don't
get
achd's
need
to
make
an
industrial
area.
C
Beautified
I
mean
the
whole
point
of
having
an
industrial
area.
Is
it's
not
going
to
be
as
nice
as
a
residential
area,
and
so
I
mean
I
apologize
to
the
other
neighbors
that
you
had
to
go
through
all
this
and
spend
all
that
money?
You
did
to
improve
these
streets
when
again,
this
is
an
industrial
area,
not
a
residential
area.
If
I
was
on,
achd
I
probably
would
vote
against
that,
because
I
think
that's
just
excessive
and
and
not
warranted
in
in
this
kind
of
neighborhood.
C
You
certainly
make
a
good
point
about
the
the
fairness
of
you
being
required
to
do
it
where
the
applicant
hasn't
yet
been
required
to
do
it.
So
it
kind
of
raises
the
the
question
of
well.
Do
we
punish
him
with
requirements
that
I
might
not
have
well
I,
wouldn't
have
required
for
the
neighbors
to
do
these
kind
of
improvements,
so
should
I
punish
the
applicant
and
was
something
I,
don't
necessarily
agree
with,
however,
knowing
that
when
he
does
redevelop
he's
going
to
have
to
go
through
these
same
Burns,
anyways
I
was
kind
of
curious
about.
C
You
know
to
follow
up
on
commissioner
Daley's
comments.
What
portion
of
this
road
has
been
improved
versus?
What
hasn't,
how
piecemeal
is
it
I,
I,
I
I
could
see
potentially
tabling
to
get
that
kind
of
information
and
maybe
reviewing
some
of
the
achd
decisions.
I
mean
I'm
curious
if
they
are
having
a
uniform
standard
for
all
these
decisions
or
or
if
they
have.
You
know
made
some
mistakes
on
some
of
these,
so
yeah
I
potentially
be
open
to
tabling
I'd
depending
on
the
mood
of
the
board.
B
Instead
of
making
the
decision
themselves,
they
punited
to
us
and
I,
don't
think
it's
rightfully
our
decision
to
make,
because
we
have
no
control
over
the
roads,
so
I
I,
guess
I
I
would
so
I
would
make
the
motion
to
table
it
pending
having
more
information
on
the
issues
that
we
discussed,
the
piecemeal
way,
they've
done
it
on
that
almost
two
streets
or
the
street
different
names
on
sections
and
the
the
percentage
of
what?
B
D
Chairman
commission
we'd
probably
recommend
that
it
be
tabled
to
the
October
11th
public
hearing
to
give
Leon
and
his
team
some
time
to
to
research.
The
the
topics
that
you've
identified,
which
is
I'm
here
correctly,
is
I,
guess
working
with
potentially
legal
counsel,
to
identify
authority
to
apply
standards
to
highway
district
infrastructure,
identifying
what
the
requirements
may
be.
Looking
at
percentages
for
triggering
requirements
for
modification
as
well
as
it
was
the
last
one.
D
C
A
A
So
what
triggers
them?
Aren't
they
suggesting
that
they
didn't
require
the
the
the
the
additional
improvements
to
this
property
because
a
it
wasn't,
it
wasn't
new.
There
was
no
new
new
construction
being
built
on
on
the
property
and
therefore
they
didn't
think
it
was
any
new
new
burdens
on
the
road.
K
K
B
Think
exactly
that's
not
going
to
get
a
hard
and
fast
number!
That's
how
long
it'll
take
but
okay,
well,
I
I
would
make
that
motion
then
to
table
it
until
October
11th
and
the
project
number
is
two:
zero:
two:
three:
zero:
zero:
five:
three:
two
z
c
d:
a
v
c:
u
m
s!
P
p
b,
a
Dennis
Fox
table
it
until
October
11th
with
to
explore
the
the
things.
M
A
Move
on
to
the
next
application,
where
I'll
open
the
public
hearing
on
application,
two
zero:
two:
three:
zero
one:
zero:
four:
four
dash
s:
Morgan
bolderman!
K
All
right,
thank
you,
chairman
Commissioners,
so
if
this
inherited
Conor
project
goes
better
than
the
last
one,
but
we're
giving
him
a
hard
time
next
time,
I
see
him
for
lunch,
but
all
right.
The
application
before
you
is
a
preliminary
plot
for
two
lot
subdivision
named
bold
estate
subdivision
the
applicant
is
Morgan
bolderman.
K
K
K
Pictured
here
is
the
future
land
use
map
of
the
area.
It's
designated
rural
residence
which
supports
the
project
requested,
as
it
will
be
two
residential
lots
for
future
single-family
homes
on
two
plus
acres
in
size.
Each
lot
there
were
no
comments
received
from
the
public
and
all
reviewing
agencies
approve
the
project
with
standard
conditions.
K
I
know
that
we're
always
talking
about
water,
so
the
County
engineer
is
recommending
that
water
testing
be
done
on
the
future
Wells
for
the
property
based
on
levels
of
arsenic,
uranium
and
nitrates
in
the
area,
and
that
any
future
well
will
be
of
300
feet
in
depth
with
that
staff
is
recommending
approval,
as
did
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
Okay,.
B
As
a
clarification
to
what
I
make
sure
I
heard
what
I
heard
and
the
water
is
going
to
be
tested
required
to
be
tested
that
we
have
no
ability
to
restrict
it.
Based
on
what
the
test
says,
all
it
is
is
giving
information
to
the
applicant
to
use
the
water
or
not
use
the
water
based
on
the
results.
Yeah.
K
Correct
chairman,
commissioner,
we
don't
prohibit
development
based
on
the
quality
of
the
water.
I.
Don't
even
think
idwr
prohibits
the
development
they
just
recommend.
If
you're
going
to
drill
well
in
this
area,
you
get
your
water
tested
regularly
because
of
those
issues
so
that
ultimately,
it's
safe
water
to
drink,
but
yeah
there's
no
requirement
based
on
that.
K
M
A
All
right
do
we
have
any,
let's
see.
F
Morgan
boulderman
at
7985,
South,
Cloverdale,
Road
I,
just
want
to
start
off
and
say.
Thank
you
as
well.
As
others
have
said,
the
staff
has
been
phenomenal,
helpful
lots
of
chocolate
upstairs
if
you
come
in
stressed,
so
it's
been
great
experience
going
through
this
in
a
in
a
weird
way,
but
yeah.
These
are
all
large
Lots.
F
When
I
had
my
neighborhood
meeting,
it
was
like
a
packed
meeting
in
my
garage.
Everyone
was
very
concerned
that
we
keep
the
the
spirit
of
the
large
tracks.
I
don't
want
to
cram
like
20
houses
into
this.
Just
one
two
acre
lot
to
give
some
family
out
there
in
the
world
their
opportunity
to
own.
You
know
come
to
Idaho
or
already
relocate
within
Idaho
and
have
their
their
land.
That
they've
always
wanted
that
most
people,
dream
of
having
I
have
just
under
five
acres
and
I,
really
only
use
about
three
of
it.
F
I
have
no
plans
to
use
the
other
two
acres,
it's
just
like
mixed
Orchard,
Alfalfa
hay.
So
if
we
can
basically
propose
to
just
get
this
two
acre
split
off
and
give
another
family
opportunity
to
have
supplant
and
a
house,
that's
really
the
spirit
of
what
I'm
asking
for.
So,
if
there's
any
questions
all.
F
Four
years
so
we're
coming
up
on
four
years
in
a
few
months
and
when
I
moved
in
it
was
a
complete
dump.
The
last
people
had
just
trashed
it
for
years,
I
had
so
many
dump
runs,
probably
100
dump
runs
and
just
wall-to-wall
abandoned
cars
and
Machinery.
If
you
can
imagine,
you
know
in
your
mind,
just
tons
and
tons
and
tons
of
junk
all
over
the
place.
So
it's
been
a
huge
chore.
F
Every
dollar
I
make
goes
into
that
property
to
get
it
cleaned
up,
and
now
it's
finally
like
to
the
place
where
I
can
slow
down
a
little
bit,
go
to
bed
before
midnight
and
actually
relax
and
kind
of
start
to
enjoy
it.
We
actually
got
some
peaches
and
some
nectarines
and
things
off
an
orchard.
We
planted
it's
like
okay,
you
know
this
is
not
a
two-year
process.
This
is
like
a
15-year
process
to
get
this
property
I
I'm
learning
a
lot
but
yeah,
basically
coming
up
on
four
years,
100.
F
F
A
Car
are
there
any
other
questions,
yeah
just
Mr
chairman.
F
Originally
my
brother
and
sister-in-law
were
considering
maybe
putting
a
house
there.
I'm
not
I,
would
give
them
first
opportunity
in
their
family,
but
if
not
I
was
simply
gonna
list
it
or
you
know,
maybe
just
back
Channel.
If
you
know
talk
to
a
few
Realtors.
If
there's
somebody
that's
been
looking
for
land
I
know
it's
really
hard
to
get
I'm,
not
planning
to
like
sell
it
for
a
huge
amount.
I
actually
want
to
go.
That's
funny.
I
was
talking
to
somebody
the
other
day.
F
A
B
A
Sure
sure
any
other
questions
from
the
from
the
applicant,
no
okay,
hearing
none
well!
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I!
Don't
have
anyone
else
signed
up
to
speak
on
this
I
guess.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
that
needs
to
or
anyone
online
okay?
Is
there
anything
that
needs
to
be
added
to
the
record.
K
A
Right
we'll
we'll
get
that
cleared
up
tomorrow,
then,
okay,
with
that
I'll
close
the
public
hearing
on
application,
two
zero:
two:
three:
zero
one:
zero
four,
four
S
Morgan
Baldwin
application
being
closed.
Is
there
a
discussion
from
the
board
or
a
motion.
C
No
Mr
chair,
I'm,
going
to
move
to
approve
application
number
two:
zero:
two:
three:
zero
one:
zero:
four:
four
dash
dash
s:
Morgan
bolderman,
based
on
the
findings,
effect
and
conclusions
of
law
contained
in
the
staff
report
and
the
testimony
heard
tonight.
I.
A
Okay,
you've
heard
the
motion,
I,
don't
ever
say:
I
I
I
most
carries.
Thank
you.
A
E
The
site
is
two
Parcels
located
at
8995
West
Chinden
Boulevard
and
contains
a
total
of
5.06
acres
in
the
rural
urban
transition.
District
The
Proposal
includes
converting
the
existing
3000
square
foot
accessory
structure
into
a
dog
kennel
converting
500
square
feet
of
the
existing
residence
for
cat
boarding
and
1250
square
feet
of
the
attached
garage
would
be
converted
for
the
client
reception
area.
10
parking
spaces
are
proposed
for
clients
and
up
to
five
employees.
At
a
time.
E
The
hours
of
operation
are
proposed
as
customer
pickup
and
drop
off
for
all
services
from
7
AM
to
9,
A.M
and
4
pm
to
6
PM
overnight
care
would
be
indoor
only
between
8
pm
and
6
a.m.
Daytime
care
is
indoors
and
Outdoors
from
6
a.m.
To
8
PM
The,
Proposal
States
indoor
space
would
include
kennels
for
up
to
a
hundred
animals.
The
applicant
has
proposed
privacy,
fencing
and
Landscaping,
but
did
not
submit
a
landscape
plan
with
the
initial
application.
E
The
variance
request
is
to
allow
for
the
kennel
structure
to
remain
in
its
current
location,
within
the
25-foot
setback
for
the
boarding
facility
and
outside
play
area
to
be
within
600
feet
of
property
lines,
the
variance
request
would
be
considered
a
right
or
special
privilege,
as
all
commercial
kennels
in
every
zone
are
required
to
comply
with
the
600
foot
separation
between
structures
where
the
animals
are
housed
and
outside
runs
in
the
property
lines.
The
variance
does
not
relieve
an
undue
hardship
due
to
the
characteristics
of
the
site.
E
As
the
applicant
was
aware,
the
property
did
not
meet
the
commercial
request:
commercial
kennel
requirements
when
they
purchased
the
property,
the
property
owners
purchased
the
property
after
the
pre-application
meeting,
and
the
notes
from
the
pre-applicate
pre-application
meeting
include
information
that
including
information
about
the
600
foot
separation
and
that
a
variance
would
be
required.
The
application
were
submitted.
E
That
dogs
are
considered
predators
to
Livestock
on
neighboring
property,
that
the
use
is
not
compatible
with
future
residential
development
and
that
the
application
does
not
meet
the
requirements
to
be
granted
a
variance
after
the
staff
report
was
published.
The
applicant
did
submit
an
updated
site
plan
and
a
draft
Landscaping
plan.
However,
the
new
proposal
still
does
not
meet
the
requirements
of
the
Ada
County
code.
A
E
C
The
county
code,
and
do
you
want
to
discuss
what
the
rationale
for
that
is.
E
Chairman
commissioner,
Davidson
I
can't
talk
to
when
the
code
was
written
or
the
discussions
that
happened
when
that
code
was
written.
However,
the
intent
that
I
can
see
from
the
code
is
is
to
keep
animals
the
amount
of
animals
away
from
neighboring
properties
as
they
might
affect.
You
know:
noise,
odor
Livestock
in
this
case.
A
A
Team
effort
get
better
together,
go.
Q
Ahead,
yes,
sir,
my
name
is
Tommy
Odell
I'm
at
8995,
West
Chinden.
This
is
my
wife,
Amanda
Odell,
so
I
just
wanted
to
speak
and
just
I
wrote
something
I
have
a
bad
memory,
so
I
try
to
write
everything
down
so
I'm
going
to
read
directly
from
my
notes.
That's.
A
Q
Ahead
good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
I
just
want
to
introduce
ourselves
and
give
context
to
the
reason
why
we're
here
today,
I'd
also
like
to
score
some
brownie
points
with
my
wife.
So
we
are
new
to
Idaho.
We
moved
here
from
Louisiana
for
the
purpose
of
starting
a
business
in
this
amazing
State
and
raising
our
family
in
a
community
with
the
same
values
that
we
have.
Q
Five
years
ago
and
haven't
been
able
to
stop
scheming
on
how
to
get
my
my
family
here,
so
I
finally
succeeded.
Our
girls,
since
we
married,
was
to
be
successful
business
owners
and
provide
the
very
best
for
our
children,
not
in
possessions,
but
with
our
time
and
energy.
My
wife
and
I
married
in
2012
before
my
third
deployment
as
a
sniper
I
went
to
Iraq
once
and
twice
to
Afghanistan.
Q
Six
months
later,
I
was
wounded
and
Medevac
I
was
medically
retired
within
two
years
after
that,
I
was
a
young
man
with
a
wife
and
a
new
baby
trying
to
find
my
place
in
the
world.
My
wife's
career
was
just
getting
traction,
is
I
was
wrapping
up
mine
fast
forward
10
years
to
today,
and
we
are
a
family
of
six.
Our
amazing
kids
are
excelling
in
school.
We
have
soccer
baseball
and
Tennis
every
week.
Q
My
wife
is
a
high
level
executive
at
a
well-known
and
respected
Fortune
100
company,
and
she
travels
every
two
weeks
for
work.
So,
two
weeks
on
two
weeks
off,
we
have
our
house
and
our
toys
and
and
more
importantly,
each
other-
and
we
are
truly
blessed
to
be
living,
the
American
dream
and
we
are
truly
blessed
to
be
here
and
that
fact
is
not
lost
on
us.
Q
So
that's
what
the
world
sees.
They
see
a
happy
family
with
everything
going
for
them,
but
what
they
don't
see
is
the
battle
My
Wife
puts
herself
through.
Q
She
is
a
constant
tug
of
war
with
her
two
sides:
mother
and
wife,
or
business
woman,
make
Garrett's
baseball
game
or
a
meeting
with
the
senior
leadership
team,
go
to
soccer
practice
or
change
this
trajectory
of
a
of
a
massive
company
guess
what
she
is
absolutely
amazing
at
both
of
those
things,
but
we
need
her
at
home,
so
the
amount
of
work
time
and
effort
she's
put
into
the
ranch,
Farm
and
Pet
Club
is
unbelievable.
The
mountain
of
spreadsheets
believe
me:
there
is
a
mountain
of
spreadsheets.
Q
Is
it's
truly
staggering?
This
business
will
allow
her
to
make
every
milestone
in
our
family's
life,
never
missing
an
important
event.
This
kennel,
although
in
its
infancy,
has
been
years
in
the
making,
and
it
is
our
new
American
dream-
and
we
are
excited
to
be
here
with
that
I'll.
Let
her
take
over.
R
He
said
he'd
tear
us
up,
but
I
wasn't
expecting
that
so
I
need
to
breathe
with
those
four
kids.
It's
a
wonder
that
we're
awake
right
now.
You
can
click
to
the
next
slide.
R
So
I
appreciate
everything
that
you
said
about
me.
Honey
I.
Think
something
important
to
note,
though,
is
that
he
is
truly
a
hero.
I
mean
in
every
sense
of
the
word
with
the
service
that
he
that
he
did
and
even
since
he's
gotten
out,
he
was
a
financial
advisor
and
right
now
he
volunteers,
his
time,
giving
free
military
members
and
Veterans
Financial
advice
and
helps
them
with
their
financial
planning.
So
he's
awesome
as
well.
R
So,
in
addition
to
fulfilling
our
version
of
the
American
dream,
I
want
to
highlight
some
of
the
other
goals
we
have
for
our
family
business.
I
was
actually
really
surprised
to
learn,
as
we
were
looking
into
where
to
make
our
dreams
a
reality.
That
Idaho
has
the
largest
percentage
of
households
with
pets
in
the
U.S,
which
was
which
was
surprising
and
shocking,
so
we
definitely
picked
the
right
place.
R
That
number
continues
to
grow
as
the
population
grows.
Another
interesting
fact
is
that
younger
Generations
are
having
less
children,
and
many
instead
are
opting
for
cats
and
dogs.
So
in
the
future
we
may
see
less.
You
know
human
daycares
and
More
Pet
daycares
quality
of
care
is
very
important
to
us.
We
don't
want
to
be
just
kind
of
a
commodity
kennel.
We
want
to
provide
high
quality
of
care
animals.
We've
got,
we've
had
many
animals,
but
you
know
throughout
our
lives
and
both
you
know
pet
and
nature
lovers.
R
We
want
to
create
a
space
that
has
natural
features
that
lets
animals,
be
you
know,
kind
of
as
intended
with
real
grass
and
real
trees,
and
not
just
AstroTurf,
and
you
know,
vinyl
Shades,
which
you'll
see
at
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
the
places.
So
you
know
a
space
large
enough
to
accommodate
something
like
that
is
what
we,
what
we
aspired
to
find
and
then
we're
also
really
passionate
about
helping
other
veterans.
R
So
we
want
to
create
employment
opportunity
for
veterans.
We
want
to
give
back
through
the
work
that
we
do
and
eventually
get
into
things
like
service,
dog
training
and
things
like
that
next
slide.
R
So,
besides
moving
across
the
com,
the
country,
one
of
our
first
steps,
was
scouting
out
the
right
place
to
both
live
and
start
this
family
business.
So
we
did
purchase
the
property
at
8995,
West
Chinden
in
July,
to
orient
you
to
the
property.
This
is
kind
of
a
slightly
zoomed
in
zoning
map.
Our
property
is
that
blue
star
to
the
far
left
in
the
purple
Zone,
which
is
rut
next
slide
consistent
with
an
rut
District.
R
Our
property
is
surrounded
by
Farmland
with
miscellaneous
businesses
along
chenden,
including
agricultural
companies,
a
tax
office,
a
construction
yard,
a
portable
shed
sales
lot,
landscaping,
business
and
other
just
in-home
businesses,
neighboring
ho
next
slide.
Sorry
neighboring
homes
are
500
or
more
feet
from
ours,
and
the
entrance
of
our
property
is
directly
on
2026
China
Boulevard.
R
Next
slide,
the
property
consists
of
two
parcels
and
as
explained,
we
would
like
to
open
a
pet
boarding
and
daycare
facility
within
the
existing
structures.
We'll
use
part
of
the
lower
level
of
the
four
thousand
square
foot
residents
for
cat
boarding.
The
garage
will
be
converted
into
customer
Reception
Area,
the
rest
of
the
home
will
be
maintained,
as
our
residents
and
the
3
000
square
foot
shop
building
will
be
renovated.
R
As
the
dock
boarding
space,
we
plan
to
create
dog
players
within
the
one
acre
parcel
that
the
two
buildings
are
on
with
a
potential
future
play
art
expansion
area
into
the
Four
Acre
parcel
that
it
that
it
adjoins
I'll
show
you
kind
of
the
concept
on
the
sitemap
next
slide.
The
exteriors
of
the
residence
and
Shop
will
be
Tastefully
renovated
to
reflect
a
modern
Farmhouse
design
to
fit
the
environment
with
the
front
of
the
homes
garage
renovated
to
become
the
client
entryway.
R
The
residence's
driveway
will
be
expanded
to
facilitate
customer
entry
and
exit,
as
well
as
parking
and
the
property
will
be
fenced
with
a
six
foot.
Privacy
fence
also
cross
fence
for
pet
safety
and
play
management.
Additional
Trees
and
Landscaping
will
be
added
to
the
existing
landscaping
for
additional
screening
and
sound
buffering.
R
Indoor
facilities
will
be
Resort
quality
with
privacy,
screening
and
noise
barriers
between
the
surrounding
pet
areas.
Pets
will
be
housed
indoors
only
except
during
play.
Hours
and
buildings
will
have
full
utilities
and
climate
control.
Special
Care
will
be
taken
to
minimize
any
sensory
impacts
and
inconvenience
to
neighbors,
including
quiet
hours
between
8
pm
and
6.
A.M
and
structures
will
be
modernized
and
insulated
to
minimize
noise
from
the
inside
to
the
outside.
R
However,
we
are
very
sensitive
to
the
feedback
of
our
neighbors.
We
had
one
neighbor
come
to
the
neighborhood
meeting
and
two
additional
letters
of
concern,
and
we
we
really
do
empathize
with
their
concerns,
we're
not
ignorant
to
the
fact
that,
for
as
many
people
as
there
are
who
love
dogs,
there
are
also
people
who
don't
or
who
might
may
see
them
as
a
nuisance
or
danger
to
kind
of
their
their
home
base,
and
we
know
that
the
thought
of
a
kennel
next
door
probably
doesn't
sound
like
a
wonderful
thing
for
any.
R
For
anybody,
let's
be
real.
Therefore,
we
are
already
planning
some
adjustments
to
our
original
Master
site
plan
that
was
submitted
with
the
application
following
neighbor
feedback.
R
As
you'll
see
here,
we've
updated
the
master
site
plan
to
reduce
the
size
of
that
play
art
expansion
area
where,
before
you'll
see
to
the
left,
we
were
proposing
kind
of
cross
fence,
Play
Arts
throughout
the
larger
part
of
the
Four
Acre
parcel
and
based
on
feedback
and
sensitivity
to
the
livestock
and
the
neighboring
home.
That's
right
next
door
to
the
to
the
right
to
the
east.
R
We
are
going
to
shrink
that
potential
play
art
expansion
area
down
considerably
in
the
beginning,
though,
we're
not
planning
on
developing
that
at
all,
so
our
desire
would
be
if
we
can
stay
on
that.
One
acre
parcel
and
free
up
the
other
parcel
for
down
the
road
development
or
kind
of
a
better
and
higher
use
that
we
may
do
that.
So
if
we
could
kind
of
keep
this
on
the
one
acre
parcel
we
we
would
like
to
do
that
next
slide.
R
As
far
as
the
variance
request,
first
I'd
like
to
address
staff
comments
on
the
variance
request,
one
thing
worth
noting
before
I
go
further,
because
this
is
in
the
staff
report
and
I
know
that
was
mentioned
by
Corey
earlier.
Is
that
the
fact
that
we
decided
to
move
forward
with
purchasing
the
property
after
the
pre-application
meeting,
where
we
learned
about
the
variance
as
as
kind
of
their
rationale
for
us
not
having
an
undue
hardship?
R
Actually,
when
I
met
with
Connor
for
the
pre-application
meeting
in
June,
he
did
share
this
at
back
requirements.
But
he
also
indicated
our
plans
seemed
like
good
use
for
the
property
and
leniency
of
the
rut
district,
and
he
shared
the
variance
process
and
the
fact
that
no
variances
had
been
denied
yet
that
this
year,
that
was
in
June
and
gave
us
that
gave
us
enough
confidence.
We
needed
to
move
forward.
R
R
Secondly,
the
600
foot
variants
for
commercial
kennels
is,
in
our
opinion,
the
request
is
a
very
practical
one
and
in
line
with
the
precedent
set
for
many
other
kennels
we've
researched
in
Ada
County
next
slide
to
illustrate
what
a
600
foot
separation
would
require.
We
would
need
a
45
acre
square
parcel,
since
this
separation
requirement
applies
in
all
zoning
districts.
R
This
would
obviously
make
it
very
difficult
for
most,
if
not
all
commercial
kennel
owners
to
acquire
and
maintain
the
land,
but
it
would
also
mean
pet
owners
would
have
to
drive
very
long
distances
to
board
their
pets,
since
45,
acre
Parcels
would
not
be
available
anywhere
near
the
areas
of
need,
just
based
on
some
math
to
achieve
600
feet
of
separation
from
dog
area
to
property
border
would
require
26
Acres
of
a
perfectly
round
lot.
R
If
the
dog
area
was
a
pinpoint
so
minimum
of
26
Acres
unrealistically,
because
you
need
more
than
a
pinpoint
to
put
dogs
in
but
just
goes
to
show
the
unreasonable
aspect
of
that
regulation
and
if
you
flip
to
the
next
slide
as
part
of
our
due
diligence
before
purchasing
the
property,
we
concluded
that
this
must
be
the
reason
that,
out
of
the
50
plus
pet
boarding
facilities
in
Ada
County,
we
researched.
None
of
them
met
the
setback.
Requirements
for
a
kennel
with
outside
runs,
so
they
must
have
all
been
granted
variances
to
exist.
R
A
Okay,
before
you
leave,
is
there
any
questions
from
from
from
the
commission
go.
B
Ahead,
just
a
quick
question
you
you
made:
when
did
you
make
the
changes
that
you
proposed?
Does
that
when
did
the
staff
get
that.
R
It
was
very
recently
within
a
week.
It
was
after
we
got
the
final
letters
of
concern,
so
we
didn't
after
we
talked
to
the
neighbors
we
kind
of
planned
amongst
ourselves
that
we
would
just
create
a
bit
a
bigger
buffer
between
the
neighboring
property
and
ours.
As
an
easy
compromise,
we
didn't
kind
of
formalize
it
and
resubmit
it
with
our
application.
Until
we
got
you
know
the
stack
report
and
the
additional
feedback
and
decided
that
it
would
be
better
for
us
to
just
go
ahead
and
and
show
you
guys
if
that
was
our
intent.
E
Commissioner
Daley
there
is
no
possible
way
for
this
property
to
meet
the
requirements
of
ADA
county
code,
so
no
that
location
does
not
meet
the
requirements.
A
Okay,
we
have.
A
S
Evening
your
vision
is
balancing
growth
for
a
sustainable
future
while
maintaining
the
trusts
of
those
we
serve.
The
section
code
for
commercial
dog,
kennel
States,
a
600
foot
separation
shall
be
maintained
between
area
and
structure
where
animals
are
housed
in
any
property
line,
their
RV
shop,
which
wants
to
be
their
their
housing
for
their
dogs.
Kennel
is
250
feet
from
my
property
line
and
that
property
line
is
34
feet
from
my
livestock
corels
and
pastures.
S
So
when
you
put
them
together,
they
don't
mix
so
the
commercial
Venture,
which
is
next
door
250
feet
from
my
property
line,
and
it's
detrimental
to
my
livestock.
So
to
produce
a
quality
livestock
product
to
sell
or
harvest
you
have
to
have
a
daily
average
weight
gain.
That
is,
that
is
a
good,
solid
number,
because
that's
what
you're
going
to
use
for
the
end
product
food
is
not
the
only
part
that
allows
this
gain
to
happen.
You
need
peace.
S
You
need
quiet,
a
non-threatening
environment
up
to
100
animals,
next
door
of
dogs,
barking
with
decimals
that
reach
up
to
115
and
running
around
in
their
play
area
is
not
peaceful,
it's
not
quiet
and
it
makes
livestock
very
nervous
and
it
makes
me
nervous
and
and
by
the
way
I've
had
dogs.
My
whole
life
I
have
loved
dogs,
all
of
our
dogs
that
we
have
had
have
been
maintained.
They
do
not.
They
are
not
around
animals
or
livestock,
because
livestock
does
not
tolerate
them,
and
you
have
to
train
them
as
such.
S
Our
daily
outside
living
is
done
along
the
property
line,
which
is
gardening,
harvesting
summer
flowers.
We
have
a
quiet
place
to
set
and
reflect
our
farm
equipment.
Is
there
the
corels?
Are
there
the
pasture's
there
I
spend
a
lot
of
time
outside
doing
that,
and
just
our
presence
outside
is
going
to
trigger
what
dogs
do
best.
They
like
to
bark
the
neighboring
Farms
on
the
west
and
the
South
with
tractor
work,
irrigating,
spraying
and
harvesting
will
excite
and
provoke
the
dogs
to
bark.
S
They
believe
they
believe
in
that
the
rules
were
made
to
govern
them.
I
am
a
native
idahoan.
I
have
lived
and
worked
this
land
for
36
years.
I
believe
that
one
person's
Venture,
which
doesn't
meet
the
A5
311,
is
a
determinant
to
my
livestock
I've
already
said
all
that
there
is
no
hardship
because
they
knew
all
of
this
beforehand
and
at
that
meeting,
I
brought
all
that
up
at
the
neighborhood
meeting
about
all
of
those
things
not
meeting
and
If.
You
deny
this
which
needs
to
be
done.
S
C
S
It
varies
from
year
to
year.
We've
had
beef,
Dairy,
heifer,
Replacements,
we've
done
that
for
dairies.
We
have
done
goats.
We
presently
have
sheep.
I
have
a
horse.
We've
had
multiple
horses,
so
my
property.
S
The
cursor
is
on
it
there
you
go
right
there,
so
our
house
is
is
back,
that's
our
house
and
and
all
of
along
where
the
red
is,
and
you
can
see
the
driveway
all
that
land
in
there
we
use
for
gardening
and
flowering
our
equipments
along
there.
We
have
two
Corrals
I,
have
a
small
one
up
up
close
to
the
house
where
we
have
lambing
I,
have
a
larger,
Corral
and
and
stuff
down
at
the
bottom
from
my
horse,
and
for
when
we
had
day
when
we
had
Dairy
and
beef
all.
S
Well,
so
those
those
right
there
there's
Ellen
right,
there
is
where
my
hay
is,
and
then
we
have
a
small
hoop
and
the
corels
are
all
right.
There,
there's
a
there's,
a
Krell
lot
and
there's
three
different
corels,
and
so
we've
used
them
throughout
the
years
for
multiple
kinds
of
animals.
C
Are
the
are
the
livestock
have
access
to
the
entire
property?
No.
S
C
C
A
I
Before
I
started,
I
want
to
thank
Tommy
for
his
service
I'm,
a
Vietnam
air
veteran
of
myself,
so
I
appreciate
your
service
good
evening.
My
name
Harold
McConnell
and
I
live
8825,
West,
Chandon
Boulevard
and
our
property
borders,
the
on
the
east
and
south
side
of
the
of
this
property,
and
it
says
we
we've
farmed
and
lived
this
property
for
36
years
and
raised
livestock
during
this
time
at
a
pasture
35
feet
off
of
the
property
line
says
my
concern
is
the
80
County
Court
section
885311
and
I
quote
a
600
foot.
I
Separation
shall
be
maintained
between
the
area
and
structure
where
the
animals
are
housed
and
any
property
line.
The
total
property
width
of
this
property
is
only
380
feet
on
the
North
side
and
it's
only
215
feet
wide
on
the
South
Side,
not
even
close
in
meeting
the
minimum
600
foot
separation
buffers
or
to
any
pro
our
property
lines
or
the
other
property
lines.
I
They
have
revised
or
master
plan
and
reduced
the
size
of
the
dog
play
area.
But
this
still
doesn't
meet
the
600
foot
separation.
The
property
is
too
small
to
meet
the
minimum
code,
and
these
codes
are
in
place
to
protect
the
neighborhood
and,
with
these
outside
runs
of
up
to
100.
Animals
would
be
detrimental
to
the
health
and
safety
or
welfare
of
our
livestock,
and
our
peace
and
quiet
will
be
lost
forever,
with
up
to
100
barking
dogs,
24
7,
which
could
exceed
over
100
decimals.
I
And
then
the
the
300
square.
Foot
shop
structure,
which
will
be
used
for
the
dog
kennel,
is
approximately
10
foot
off
the
West
property
line
and
it's
2020,
but
face
approximately
20
foot
off
the
South
property
line
and
in
article
B2
82b
of
the
80
county
code
to
setbacks
for
the
rut
of
the
25
foot,
interior
side
and
rear
rear
into
your
side
and
rear,
see,
and
also
there's
a
concrete
irrigation
dish
that
runs
between
these
two
Parcels,
which
irrigates
approximately
40
acres
on
the
north
of
Chinden.
I
All
the
way
to
Canada
Road,
the
outside
dog
play
area
by
the
shop
is
pavement
that
runs
along
the
concrete,
ditch
I'm
concerned
about
runoff
from
dog
waste
into
the
irrigation.
Ditch
from
this
paved
area,
which
would
be
a
health
and
safety
problem,
and
so
I'd
also
like
to
address
that
Highway
2026
expansion
of
right
away
the
right
away
and
then
it's
an
expansion
of
the
right
way.
The
expansion
of
the
right-of-way
will
take
Highway
Frontage
from
our
property
and
in
their
master
plan
that
was
submitted
to
you.
I
It
doesn't
appear
that
they
address
the
approximately
35
to
40
percent
of
the
front
yard
that
would
be
lost
to
the
right-of-way
expansion,
which
is
being
positively
being
acquired
along
the
highway
currently
by
the
state.
So
this
would
impact
their
site
plan
for
the
10
parking
spaces
required
and
the
circle
driveway,
because
you
don't
want
customers
backing
out
onto
the
shoulders
of
a
busy
dangerous
highway.
Just
last
week
a
big
black
white
cat
was
hit
and
killed
in
front
of
this
property,
and
it's
actually
that
highway
right
now,
I
irrigate
on
the
North
side.
I
I
got
ground
on
the
North
side,
I
rent,
my
farm
and
I.
Sometimes
it
takes
me
10
minutes
to
get
across
that
Highway
in
the
morning
and
evening,
while
I'm
irrigating,
because
it's
a
dead,
stop
track,
commute
during
rush
hour
and
it's
super
dangerous
and
I'm
all
I'm.
Getting
scared
myself
Crossing
that
Highway,
because
you
can't
see
oncoming
traffic
when
everybody's
stop
and
the
sun's
in
your
eyes,
and
it's
just
getting
really
dangerous,
and
that-
and
this
is
going
to
generate
lots
of
traffic.
I
Up,
okay
and
I
and
I
just
sincerely
request
that
the
board
of
the
data
County
Commissioners
deny
this
conditional
use
permit,
with
the
variance
changes
to
the
code
for
a
commercial
account
with
outside
runs
and
for
dog
and
cat
boarding
and
daycare.
Thank
you
thank.
A
You
all
right,
yeah,
you
haven't
had
some
some
time
no
go
ahead.
Okay,
yeah
the
application.
You
have
some
time
for
a
bottle
if
you'd
like
there.
R
As
far
as
the
noise
goes,
2026
chendon
is
about
100
feet
from
our
front
door
as
we
understand
it,
we'll
lose
about
10
feet
of
our
front
yard,
so
it'll
be
90
feet
from
our
front
front
door
in
the
next
couple
of
years.
It's
Extremely
Loud.
R
So
if
yep
right
here,
so
we
actually
did
a
decibel
study
and
found
that
it
produces
anywhere
from
75
to
85
decibels.
Just
because
of
the
road
noise
alone,
it
can
get
louder
when
there
are
big
trucks
which
there
are
a
lot
of
big
trucks
on
the
road.
We
assume
that
will
get
only
louder
as
the
road
has
expanded
and
more
development
comes
that
way.
R
The
research
that
they
provided
is
consistent
with
with
my
findings
as
well.
Yes,
the
dog
bark
can
be
115
decibels,
a
large
dog
with
a
large
bark.
However,
we
are
planning
on
putting
in
place
noise
management
practices.
If
we
have
a
bunch
of
dogs
barking
in
our
play
yards,
it
says
that
something's
not
right.
We
plan
on
having
human
supervision,
people
will
actually
be
in
the
play
yards
with
the
dogs,
and
that
decibel
is
when
you're
right
next
to
the
dog.
R
So
other
studies
that
we
found
show
that
to
be
on
the
fence
bordering
a
dog
park
you're
at
about
90
decibels
at
your
max,
which
is
kind
of
resembling.
What
you're?
Looking
at
with
that
Chinden
road
noise?
It's
it's
like
a
train
when
you
walk
out
the
front
door,
it's
very
loud
So,
based
on
the
distance
of
the
property
from
us
homes
being
300
and
more
feet
away
from
from
us.
We
do
believe
that
it
shouldn't
be
louder
than
the
road
noise.
R
R
This
would
allow
up
to
eight
homes
per
acre,
meaning
that
that
60
percent
of
households,
owning
dogs
and
20
with
multiple
dogs
could
have
seven
dogs
per
acre
in
those
backyards,
with
no
organ
organization
or
regulations
in
place,
no
restricted
outdoor
hours,
minimal
supervision,
no
noise
or
Odor
Control
programs
and
no
operational
standards
at
all,
meaning
that
they
could
quite
literally
have
a
hundred
dogs
surrounding
them
barking.
With
no
regulation
in
place
to
quiet
them
down.
R
We're
going
to
have
this
operational
standards
in
place,
not
just
for
our
neighbors,
but
also
for
us,
because
we'll
be
there
too,
and
we
we
do
really
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
considering
you
know
our
customers
and
our
neighbors
health
and
well-being,
and
we
do
believe
our
practices
that
we're
going
to
put
in
place
will
not
have
any
detriment
to
the
safety,
health
and
well-being
of
our
surrounding
Neighbors.
R
Regarding
the
runoff
right
now
it
is
a.
It
is
pavement.
The
area
that
we're
going
to
make
a
play
yard
is
pavement.
It
does
slope
inward.
R
It
doesn't
run
into
the
irrigation
ditch
as
it
stands,
that's
actually
going
to
become
grass
play
yard
and
we
will
have
drainage
requirements,
so
all
of
the
the
drainage
is
going
to
have
to
run
into
a
drainage,
ditch
so
we're
going
to
plumb
for
that
and
into
the
septic.
Until
there
are,
you
know,
City
Utilities
in
the
future,
I
think.
That's
everything.
I
really
greatly
appreciate.
R
C
I'll,
ask
you
a
couple
questions,
so
we've
got
this
list
of
you
know,
issues
here
and
I
think
a
lot
of
them.
Don't
really
have
a
lot
of
Merit,
but
I
think
the
one
that
is
the
most
meritorious
is
related
to
noise.
So
you've
talked
about
that
a
little
bit,
so
you
you
did
discuss
how
China
Boulevard
is
going
to
produce
a
lot
of
noise,
and
that's
true,
but
you
would
be
adding
to
the
noise
as
well
and
and
dog.
C
Barking
is
a
is
a
particular
kind
of
noise,
probably
in
the
in
the
realm
of
nuisances
that
governments
have
to
deal
with.
That's
probably
one
of
the
ones
we
get
the
most
complaints
about,
because
it's
it's
loud.
It's
piercing
I
mean
me
personally
I
if
I
had
to
pick
between
living
next
to
a
busy
highway
and
a
kennel
I
would
pick
the
Busy
Highway
so
that
I
think
that
that's
that's
going
to
be
a
sticking
point.
C
R
I,
don't
think
our
customers
would
would
be
very
happy
with
us.
If,
if
we
did
that,
unfortunately,
you
know
I
will
say
that
the
road
noise,
Believe,
It
or
Not
drowns
out
a
lot.
It's
pretty
loud,
but
I
I
understand
the
Barking.
R
The
behavioral
practices
that
we're
going
to
implement.
You
know
a
happy
well
managed.
Dog
yard
does
not
have
a
bunch
of
barking
dogs.
That
is
usually
a
dog
yard.
That
is
unsupervised
or
maybe
you
know
somebody
sitting
in
the
corner
and
texting.
It's
not
a
dog
yard
where
the
employees
are
active,
actively
engaging
and
playing
with
the
dogs,
which
is
the
type
of
dog
yard
that
we
or
the
type
the
type
of
facility
that
we're
going
to
be.
R
But
I,
you
know
I
understand,
and
so
we
did
in
our
neighbor
neighborhood
meeting
talk
about
you
know,
considering
you
know,
practices
where
you
know
outside
play.
Time
is
certain
hours
of
the
day
and
you
know
letting
the
neighbors
know
which
hours
those
would
be
and
obviously
not
wanting
to
restrict
their
hours
of
doing
anything
that
they
want
to
do
on
their
property.
But
just
as
a
way,
you
know
as
a
gesture
to
kind
of
allow
them
some
peace
and
quiet
during
known
hours.
R
C
Were
there
any
amendments
that
you
propose
to
the
neighbors
that
they
agreed
to
or
or
did
they
not
agree
with.
R
I
I
don't
know
that
we
reached
a
resolution
and
the
conversation
it
was
very
emotionally
charged
conversation
which
I
completely
empathize
with
we
didn't
really
reach
resolution.
I
would
hope
I
mean
we
did
offer.
You
know
we're
willing
to
sit
down
and
kind
of
get
creative
with
with
you
all
and
I'm.
Just
I'm
I'm,
not
sure
that
I
think
their
resolution
would
be
to
just
not
have
this
at
all.
I
don't
know
that
there
is
an
interest
in
compromise.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right
before
I
close
the
public
hearing.
Are
there
any
any
anything
needs
to
be
added
to
the
file.
E
A
C
Mr
chair
question
to
staff,
so
obviously
we
we've
talked
a
lot
about
the
outdoor
Kettle
and
the
requirements.
Do
the
other
proposed
uses
meet
our
guidelines
is
the
the
boarding
facility
which
would
be
inside
is,
would
that
be
by
itself
within
our
our
code?.
E
Chairman
Commissioners,
yes,
the
the
use
of
the
property
could
be
allowed
outside
of
the
variance
request,
so
it
did
meet
the
other
standards
for
commercial
kennel
and
Commercial
kennel
with
outside
runs,
except
for
the
the
setbacks
of
the
zone
for
the
existing
structure
and
the
600
feet
of
separation
from
property
lines.
E
C
A
A
Okay,
with
that
we've
added
all
the
app
all
the
information
or
need
to
the
file
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
on
application.
B
I
have
another
question
staff,
so,
as
an
amplification
of
what
commissioner
Davidson
said,
is
there
any
way
that
this
property
could
conform
to
the
ordinance
and
have
a
facility
like
this.
E
O
C
C
Sometimes
what
again,
when
you're
dealing
with
variances
it's
subject
to
the
board's
discretion
and
I'm
I
would
consider
myself
pretty
generous
with
variances,
because
I
I
believe
in
private
property
rights
and
I,
don't
want
to
stand
in
the
way
generally
of
development
or
small
business,
but
one
of
the
main
factors
that
I
consider
when
granting
a
variance
is
if
any
of
the
neighbors
are
in
opposition.
For
me,
if
none
of
the
neighbors
are
in
opposition,
it's
a
pretty
easy
decision.
For
me.
C
The
fact
that
the
neighbors
are
in
opposition
of
this
one
makes
it
a
little
bit
more
difficult
for
me.
So
I
again,
I've
mentioned
I.
Think
some
of
the
the
complaints
about
the
proposed
facility
don't
hold
a
lot
of
water
with
me,
but
the
noise
and
the
potential
impact
to
the
livestock
of
the
neighbors
is
something
that
that
I'm
I
think
it
does
hold
some
weight
and
all
right
so
I
would
say.
C
I
am
I,
am
leaning
towards
denying
the
variance
requests
if,
if
it
doesn't
pass,
I
I
certainly
would
be
open
to
granting
a
variance
just
to
an
indoor
facility.
C
I
think
if
you
didn't
have
the
play
area-
and
you
were
just
talking
about
an
indoor
kennel.
Obviously
that
would
dramatically
change
the
type
of
business
you're.
Trying
to
do.
I
would
be
open
to
something
like
that,
but
I
think
as
it
as
it
stands.
Based
on
the
testimony
I've
heard,
I
would
probably
vote
against
the
variance
just
based
on
the
the
outdoor
play
area.
B
I
guess
I
I
would
have
to
agree
with
commissioner
Davidson
and
I
again.
I
have
a
brother
that
lived
in
Louisiana,
so
Louisiana,
as
you
say,
down
there,
but
so
I
welcome
you
here,
but
I
guess
that's
the
difficulty
we
have
is
matching
the
need
of
the
community
and
our
zoning
ordinance
was
written
for
that
for
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
community
and
I
would
go
along
with
commissioner
Davidson
as
well.
If
there
was
another,
that's
why
I
asked
that
question?
B
Is
there
another
way
to
have
a
dog
facility
on
this
property
and
still
meet
our
requirements?
So
I
would
agree
with
him
in
terms
of
if,
if
there's
a
way
to
do
that,
I
would
be
willing
to
Grant
a
variance,
but
not
not
at
this
stage
of
the
the
way
it's
been
presented
at
this
point
in
time.
A
What
I'd
be
curious
about
is
the
other
kennels
that
that
the
applicant
found.
B
A
Seem
to
be
a
consistent
application
of
the
600
foot,
where
of
course,
I
don't
know
if
those
were
in
in
Ada
County
or
if
they
were,
if
their
grandfathered
before
the
ordinance
was
was
drafted,
so
I'd
be
be,
I
could
go
along
with
denying
the
application,
but
I'd
like
to
undergo
a
a
study
on
that
issue.
Rather
that
was
appropriate
when
the
ordinance
was
first
drafted,
whether
it
fits
in
with
with
the
other
candles
that
are
that
are
that
are
that
are
around,
and
maybe
the
ordinance
needs
to
be
updated.
C
I'll
go
ahead
and
make
the
motion
and
again
you
know
again,
if
there's
another
plan
that
wants
to
come
forward,
I
think
you've
got
a
good
piece
of
land
and
maybe
you
can
think
about
some
other
Alternatives
again.
Your
neighbors
have
livestock.
You
can
have
livestock
too
I
I'm
not
going
to
give
you
any
ideas,
but
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
other
opportunities
you
could
use
with
this
lot,
but
for
now,
I'm
going
to
move
to
deny
application
number.
C
202-301-451-V-Cu
Dash
MSP
Ranch
Holdings,
based
on
the
conclusions
of
law,
the
finding
the
fact
and
the
staff
report
and
the
testimony
heard
tonight.
A
Okay,
we
have
the
motion
and
I'd
like
to
say
before
we
before
we
call
for
it.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
service
to
the
to
our
country
and
welcome
to
Idaho
and
I.
Would
I
would
hope
that
we
could
undergo
a
a
more
thorough
study
of
this
issue,
because
it
seems
as
though
it
may
be
a
bigger
issue,
as
you're
indicating
more
and
more
people
are
having
dogs
and
unique.
A
When
you
have
dogs,
you
need
to
board
them
somewhere
when
you
go
for
a
trip
or
something
I
mean
that's
and
so
I
think
we
should.
We
should
take
a
look
at
that,
but
anyway,
with
that,
all
in
favor
of
the
motion
say
aye
aye
aye
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
A
Is
there
any
other
business
that
needs
to
be
bought
before
the
board
tonight,
if
not
or
adjourned?.