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you
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to
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sign
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back
there
unless
you've
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in
the
online
version?
Okay,
so
we
got
that
it's
Wednesday
the
10th
day
of
May
time
is
six
o'clock
set
for
the
public
hearing.
All
three
Commissioners
are
present
Madam
clerk.
Are
there
any
changes
to
the
agenda.
A
Okay,
good
enough
I'll
take
a
motion
to
remove
the
unfinished
business
from
the
table.
I'll.
A
Second,
the
most
okay,
you've
heard
the
motion
all
in
favor,
say:
aye,
all
right,
all
right.
Okay,
a
motion
has
been
made
and
the
unfinished
business
is
removed
from
the
table.
Do
I
need
to
open
up
other
Karen.
D
F
G
A
A
Okay,
next
on
our
agenda
is
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
on
application,
202-300502
zoa,
Ada,
County
development
services,
we'll
ask
our
staff
to
present.
H
And
Mr
Mr,
chairman
and
Commissioners
for
the
next
two
new
business
items
both
have
requests
to
table
to
June
14th.
C
A
Demolition,
okay,
you've
heard
a
motion
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye,
aye
aye
motion
carries
all
right:
they
they
the
next
one,
is
the
Indiana
butcher
right
and
they
want
to
table
that
one
as
well.
That's.
A
I'll
second,
that
okay,
you've
heard
the
motion
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
all
right
motion
carries
now
the
next
one
we're
gonna
hear
right.
That's
correct!
All
right,
I'll,
open
the
public
hearing
on
application,
202202944
CPA,
z-o-a-zc
development
services,
we'll
get
a
report
from
our
staff,
go
ahead.
I
Yeah
Mr
chair,
Commissioners,
Brent
Moore,
with
Ada
County
development
services
before
you
is
an
area
of
City
Impact
renegotiation
with
the
city
of
Kuna.
I
I
So
Cuna
acai
is
currently
subject
to
cuna's
1998
comp
plan,
which
is
the
last
plan
adopted
by
the
county
for
this
area.
While
Cuna
acib
is
subject
to
Ada
County's
2016
comp
plan.
So
when
Cuna
requested
to
expand
their
ACI
in
2016,
the
county
felt
the
city's
comp
plan
at
that
time
designated
uses
that
were
too
intensive
for
some
of
the
rural
areas
located
further
out
from
the
city
center.
I
So
in
2019,
kuna
adopted
a
new
comp
plan
which
had
amended
last
November
to
include
more
Agricultural
and
low
intensity
land
use
designations
similar
to
the
land
use
map.
Ada
County
has
adopted
for
the
area,
so
just
as
a
brief
explanation,
you'll
see
on
their
future
land
use
map,
there's
more
commercial,
mixed
use,
higher
intent,
higher
density
residential
land
uses
around
the
city's,
the
city
center
and
kind
of
extending
to
the
north
and
east,
and
unless
the
green
areas,
agriculture,
the
blue,
is
our
public
properties.
I
I
I
So,
in
conclusion,
staff
is
recommending
the
board
adopt
cuno's
current
comp
plan,
finding
it
will
better
serve
the
area
due
to
it
being
developed
through
an
extensive
public
Outreach
process,
utilizing
more
recent
conditions
and
information
than
the
1998
and
2016
plans
currently
adopted
for
the
area.
There's
been
no
opposition
received
for
this
item
and
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
voted
unanimously
to
recommend
approval
at
their
public
hearing
on
February
9th.
A
A
A
44-Cpa
Zoe
zc,
it's
been,
the
public
hearing
has
been
closed
and
what
is
the
pleasure
of
the
commission?
Is
there
a
motion
chair?
Yes,
I'll.
A
Right
you've
heard
the
motion
is
ready
for
the
discussion
hearing
that
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
all
right
motion
carries.
Thank
you
all
right.
Next
up,
we
have
we'll
open
the
public
hearing
on
application.
Two
zero:
two:
two:
zero:
three:
zero:
three:
seven
z,
c
d:
a
c:
u
a
c
Darren
Kendrick,
we'll
get
a
report
from
our
staff.
Go
ahead.
J
-Ac
is
a
zone
change
from
the
Royal
preservation
District
to
the
rural
residential
district,
a
development
agreement
conditional
use
accessory
use
for
a
commercial
running
Arena
and
boarding
facility.
With
a
caretaker
dwelling,
the
property
is
located
at
9400,
North
Pierce
Park
Lane
and
contains
10.01
Acres.
The
property
is
located
in
the
Boise
Foothills
and
is
just
North
of
Boise.
J
Babcan
has
applied
for
his
own
ordinance
map,
Amendment
to
rezone
the
property
from
the
role
preservation
District
to
the
rural
residential
district.
The
subject
property
was
created
through
an
agricultural
division.
Three
Zone
to
the
rural
residential
district
will
make
the
property
billable
the
rezone
is
in
compliance
with
the
purpose
statement
of
the
rural
residential
district.
The
purpose
statement
for
the
rural
residential
district
is
permit
low
density
residential
uses
that
would
provide
a
rural
lifestyle
and
that
do
not
require
excessive
expansion
of
Public
Services.
J
The
proposed
rezone
does
not
require
excessive
expansion.
Public
Services
as
the
properties
within
the
jurisdictional
boundaries
of
the
north,
a
County,
Fire
and
Rescue
district
and
the
property
will
remain
rural
in
nature
falling
to
the
rezone.
The
property
also
includes
a
conditional
use
application
for
commercial
running
Arena
and
boarding
facility
in
1998.
A
previous
owner
had
applied
for
and
received
approval
of
a
commercial
running,
Arena
and
boarding
facility.
A
Time
extension
was
later
granted.
However,
the
applicant
of
that
project
never
completed
the
improvements
or
satisfy
the
conditions
of
approval.
Therefore,
the
1998
application
expired.
J
The
property
is
currently
being
utilized
as
a
question
boarding
and
training
facility.
Approval
of
this
application
will
bring
the
property
and
use
into
compliance
that
begins
to
requesting
the
facility
to
board
50
horses
in
addition
to
the
horse
boarding
that
will
have
personalized
riding
lessons
horse
training
summer
horse
cancer,
kids
shows
and
Clinics
and
group
outings
for
schools
and
churches.
The
hours
of
operation
will
be
from
7
A.M
to
10
p.m.
J
7
days
a
week,
the
applicants
also
applied
for
an
assessor
use
application
to
permit
a
caretaker's
dwelling
on
the
second
floor
of
the
main
Barn,
the
caregiver
drilling
will
allow
and
employee
the
ability
to
provide
adequate
supervision,
oversight
of
the
boring
and
Arena
facilities,
as
well
as
upkeep
of
the
property
and
for
the
guarding
of
materials
and
horses
on
site.
There
have
been
no
written
comments
from
neighboring
property
owners.
Several
agencies
have
provide
comments
on
the
project
based
on
agency
comments.
The
project
could
be
approved
through
compliance
with
conditions
of
approval.
J
The
a
county
building
officials
say
that
building
permits
will
be
required
for
all
new
structures
over
200
square
feet.
In
addition,
the
caretaker
drawing
of
the
barn
will
require
a
building
permit
the
Boise
fire
department
on
behalf
of
the
north,
a
County
Fire
and
Rescue
District
provide
fire
code
requirements.
J
The
fire
marshal
also
had
gone
up
and
inspected
the
property
as
well
on
between
the
plants,
only
commissions
hearing
and
the
boards
here
in
the
fire
marshal
State.
At
the
turnaround
located
near
the
horse,
Arena
at
9272,
North
Paris,
Park
Lane
is
an
approved
fire
apparatus
turnaround
and
a
documented
access
agreement
between
the
owners
of
9400
and
9272
North
Pierce
Park
Lane
is
required
for
this
turnaround
to
count
for
the
applicant's
property.
J
J
The
applicant
and
or
owner
shall
provide
the
director
with
documentation
that
the
employees
living
in
the
caretaker
dwelling
is
receiving
not
less
than
75
percent
of
employees,
annual
income
from
the
stable
and
riding
arena.
Stefans
of
this
application
complies
with
a
accounting
code
and
the
adopted
comprehensive
plan.
The
plans
on
a
commission
after
April
13
2023
public
hearing
recommended
approval
of
this
project
to
the
board
and
in
this
application
this
presentation
will
be
exhibit
number
52
for
the
record
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions
are.
A
There
any
questions
from
the
commission
not
at
the
moment
any
questions,
no
not
right
now.
Okay,
thank
you
is
the
applicant
here
wish
to
wish
to
present.
A
A
Okay,
Herring
now
and
I
will
close
the
the
public
hearing
on
application.
A
2022037,
z,
c
d,
a
c!
U
a
c,
okay
yeah!
The
hearing
has
been
closed.
What's
what's
the
pleasure
of
the
board?
Is
there
a
motion.
F
Mr
chairman
moved
to
approve
application.
F
2022037Zcda
c-u-a-c,
based
on
findings
of
facts
and
conclusions
of
law
contained
in
the
staff
report
and
or
tonight.
A
All
right
is
there
a
second
of
that
motion.
Second,
okay,
you've
heard
the
motion
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye,
aye
aye
motion
carries
thank
you.
Next
up,
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
on
application.
J
A
report
Minister
chairman
and
Commissioners
project
number
2019-02441
mspm
dam-
is
to
remove
an
existing
provision
within
the
development
agreement.
Provision
number
14
with
an
exhibit
a
of
the
recorded
development
agreement
states,
a
10-foot
multi-use
pathway
shall
be
constructed
along
Lake,
Hazel
and
Five
Mile
Road
no
changes
being
made
to
the
land
use
or
from
the
existing
approvals
and
the
core
site
design
will
remain
consistent
with
the
existing
approvals.
There's
also
requests
to
modify
the
master
site
plan
to
be
consistent
with
the
removal
of
that
condition
of
approval
with
the
da
modification.
J
The
property
is
located,
but
contains
2.02
acres
and
is
located
at
6190
South
Five
Mile
Road,
which
is
the
northeast
corner
of
Lake
Hazel
and
Five
Mile
roads.
The
property
is
within
the
Southwest
Boise
neighborhood,
as
you
can
see
on
the
screen
here
on
May
6
2020,
the
board
approved
a
zoning
ordinance
map
Amendment
with
a
development
agreement
to
reason
the
subject:
property
from
the
southwest
community
residential
district
to
the
community
commercial
District,
along
with
the
master
site
plan
for
a
restaurant
with
drive
up
Windows
service
and
a
retail
store.
J
The
Hopkins
made
the
request
to
remove
condition
number
14
from
exhibit
a
of
the
record
development
agreement
because
they
are
unable
to
fulfill
the
condition
due
to
circumstances
beyond
their
control.
Achg's
five-year
work
plan
for
this
intersection
includes
a
seven
foot
wide
sidewalk.
The
applicant
has
been
told
by
achd
that
the
road
trust
only
allows
for
the
applicant
to
submit
funds
for
seven
foot
wide
sidewalk
and
not
a
10
foot
wide
multi-use
pathway.
J
Therefore,
the
applicant's
requesting
for
this
provision
to
be
struck
as
it
has
been
fulfilled
where
possible
with
achd.
There
are
no
written
comments
from
the
public
that
were
received
with
this
application.
The
city
of
Boise's
plan
development
services
department
did
provide
some
comments
on
this
application.
Since
project
number
2019-02441,
zc.da
MSP
was
entitled
in
2020.
the
C
adopted
the
Boise
Pathways
master
plan.
This
plan
identifies
proposed
pathway
along
the
Eastern
edge
of
the
site
along
the
hon
lateral.
J
The
pathway
will
connect
residents
from
the
intersection
of
South
Cloverdale
Road
and
West
Amity
Road
to
the
con
to
the
community
activities
Center
at
West,
Lake,
Hazel,
Road
and
South
Five
Mile
Road
is
the
city's
desire
to
construct
a
future
pathway
along
the
hon
lateral
on
the
site's
eastern
boundary.
The
request
for
the
applicant
today
K
is
16
foot
wide
Public
Access
easement
to
support
12
foot
wide
multi-use
path
with
two
feet
on
either
side
of
the
path
for
maintenance.
J
J
Lateral,
as
shown
on
the
screen
here,
highlighted
in
red
I,
have
passed
out
a
copy
of
this
exhibit
to
the
board
prior
to
the
public
hearing
this
evening,
and
there
were
copies
on
the
back
table
for
the
public
staff
finds
that
this
application
applies
with
a
county
code.
It
recommends
approval
to
the
board
and
this
presentation
will
be
known
as
exhibit
number
32,
and
then
this
update,
Master
site
plan
will
be
exhibit
number
31
for
the
record
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions
are.
A
There
any
questions
from
the
commission
not
right
now
any
questions.
Okay,
thank
you.
Does
the
applicant
wish
to
make
a
presentation
here?
Joe,
okay,
Joe,
go
ahead
state,
your
name
and
your
address
for
the
record.
Thank
you.
L
Good
evening,
Commissioners
good
evening
appreciate
it.
My
name
is
Joe
Dodson
representing
Kimmy
horn
representing
McDonald's.
Our
address
is
1100
West,
Idaho
Street
Suite
210
here
in
Boise
Idaho.
Thank
you
just
a
quick
overview.
This
is
our
applicant
team
myself,
our
engineer
Connor
and
my
supervisor.
Nicolette
we've
worked
with
McDonald's
to
propose
this
da
modification
and
master
site
plan
modification
before
you
tonight.
L
Next
slide,
please,
as
Brent
noted,
this
has
been
going
on
for
a
while,
as
you
can
also
see,
with
the
2019
application,
number
multiple
modifications,
multiple
iterations
of
this
site
plan
and
the
approvals
we're
here
before
you
again
tonight,
just
to
modify
this
hopefully
one
last
time
in
order
to
get
full
certificate
of
occupancy,
because
right
now
the
McDonald's
has
temporary
Co
because
of
this
provision
and
the
pathway
and
those
discrepancies
between
what
we're
able
to
do
and
what
achd
is
doing
with
their
future
roadway
improvements
next
slide.
L
Please
again,
it
is
located
at
the
northeast
corner
of
Lake
Hazel
and
Five
Mile.
The
building
for
McDonald's
and
the
drive
through
is
already
existing
and
operating
at
this
point
next
slide,
as
you
can
see
here,
it's
all
of
the
required
improvements.
On-Site
have
already
been
constructed,
including
the
drive,
aisles
parking
and
Landscaping.
L
As
noted,
we
cannot
comply
with
this
existing
condition
because
achd
as
soon
as
we
submitted
the
building
permits,
noted
hey
we're
going
to
do
this,
we're
going
to
include
the
sidewalk
within
our
right-of-way
Improvement
plans
and
therefore
we
prefer
you
guys
not
constructed,
because
we're
just
going
to
rip
it
out,
and
so
instead
we
decided
to
and
they
allowed
us
to
do,
a
road
trust.
At
that
time
there
was
only
a
seven
foot,
sidewalk
planned
along
both
frontages
and
go
to
the
next
slide.
L
They
did
go
ahead
and
modify
that
once
to
include
10
foot
along
Lake
Hazel
within
the
city
of
Boise's
letter
to
us.
They
noted
that
hhd
is
also
going
to
include
10-foot
sidewalk
along
Five
Mile
as
well
in
their
latest
iteration
of
the
plans.
The
Lake
Hazel
exhibit
here
shows
the
10
foot.
The
Five
Mile
only
shows
a
seven
because
at
that
time,
on
their
website,
that's
only
what
they're,
showing
now
from
my
understanding.
L
They
are
currently
redesigning
that
to
show
10
foot
along
both
frontages
for
the
property,
and
we
included
just
our
receipt,
showing
proof
that
we're
not
just
saying
we
paid
the
road
trips.
We
did
actually
do
the
road
trust
with
achd
for
our
seven
foot
of
the
10
foot,
sidewalk
requirement
you
go
to
the
next
slide.
L
We
through
the
recent
changes
from
the
master
Pathways
planned
from
the
city
of
Boise
and
their
letter
to
us.
We
modified
the
site
plan
again
this
past
week
to
include
their
requested
easement
along
the
East
Boundary
for
the
future
extension
of
a
multi-use
pathway
in
that
area
through
that
through
that,
as
well
as
our
modification
of
the
site
plan
to
remove
the
sidewalk,
we
feel
that
we
are
compliant
with
that
existing
provision.
L
L
But
McDonald's
has
been
willing
to
do
that
and
achg
said
no
we'll
do
it
for
seven
feet
and
that's
what
that
sixty
five
thousand
dollars
was
for,
but
McDonald's
has
wanted
to
comply
with
this,
but
because
of
the
timing
of
the
improvements
we
just
have
not
been
able
to
construct
it.
Hhd
is
not
going
to
allow
it
within
the
right-of-way.
A
Right,
I,
don't
have
any
questions,
so
thank
you.
Thank
you
is
there.
Anyone
else
wish
to
testify
on
this.
Four
against
on
this
application
hearing,
none
the
staff
wish
to
add
anything
to
the
record
Mr.
C
A
Good
enough
I
will
close
the
the
public
hearing
on
application.
Two
zero
one:
nine
zero,
two
four
four
one
d-a-m-m-s-b
m,
Kim,
Horn,
Associates,
all
right:
the
application
the
applicant
has
been
presented
and
the
applications
the
public
hearing
is
closed.
Is
there?
Is
there
any
further
discussion
from
the
from
the
commission.
A
Okay,
you've
heard
the
motion
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye,
aye
aye
motion
carries
thank
you
all
right.
Next,
up
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
on
application.
Two:
zero:
zero,
six:
zero,
zero,
nine
zero,
zero;
two
one:
nine
CPA,
Dam
Dry,
Creek,
Ranch,
Boise,
Hunter
homes,
great
the
application,
is
open.
Their
Air
flight
carrying
is
open.
Well,
we'll
hear
from
our
staff
go
ahead.
N
N
So
Boise
Hunter
homes
proposes
a
comprehensive
plan,
Amendment
and
development
agreement,
modification
for
the
Dry
Creek
Ranch
plan
Community.
The
request
seeks
to
amend
and
modify
the
adopted
entitlement.
Language
associated
with
Transportation
improvements
to
ultimately
provide
flexibility
for
Boise
Hunter
homes
to
pursue
approval
for
the
installation
of
a
traffic
signal
at
the
intersection.
You
can
see
on
your
screen,
so
you
got
Highway
55
that
runs
north
south
Dry
Creek
road
that
runs
to
the
east
from
Highway
55..
N
Back
in
2016-
and
this
is
I'm
going
to
read
a
lot
here,
but
got
to
get
it
onto
the
record
so
back
in
2016,
a
Dry
Creek
Ranch
applied
for
a
development
agreement,
modification
which
required
a
traffic
impact
study
or
a
tis,
and
so
that
was
for
the
it
for
itd
and
achd,
so
that
they
could
provide
comments
and
requirements
for
traffic
mitigation
to
go
along
with
the
application
if
it
was
approved
and
so
on.
N
October
of
2016
itd
provided
formal
comments
about
the
application
which
included
that
intersection
and
the
tis
or
that
traffic
impact
study
that
was
submitted
by
Kittleson
and
Associates
analyzed
the
intersection
as
a
traffic
signal
roundabout
and
closed
intersection.
N
But
itd
did
not
recommend
a
traffic
signal
for
the
intersection
after
reviewing
the
tis
and
instead
they
provided
the
following
comments
here
that
you
can
see
on
your
screen.
So
in
conjunction
with
the
widening
of
State
Highway
55
from
two
lanes
to
four
Dry
Creek
Ranch
development
will
coordinate
with
itd
and
achd
to
modify
the
intersection
to
a
write-in
right
out,
left
in
or
right
in
right
out
or
a
write-in.
N
Thank
you.
So,
since
Transportation
related
improvements
fall
under
the
jurisdiction
of
itd
and
achd
Boise
Hunter
Holmes,
who
is
the
Dry
Creek
Ranch
developer?
They
initially
directed
to
seek
approval
of
the
desired
stoplight
directly
with
those
agencies
before
pursuing
the
Amendments
with
Ada
County.
N
N
Specifically,
so
you
tonight
are
not
deciding
whether
or
not
to
put
the
stoplight
in
you're,
more
so
choosing
to
either
approve
or
deny
the
language
to
be
amended
to
allow
for
those
improvements
to
take
place,
and
so
thus
see
here
the
the
applicant
provided
their
application
and
we
reached
out
to
itd
and
achd
to
provide
comments,
and
there
was
a
new
traffic
impact
study
that
was
submitted
by
Kittleson
and
Associates.
So
back
in
February,
itd
and
achd
provided
a
joint
comment.
N
These
are
some
of
the
conditions
that
are
within
that
and
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
all
of
them,
but
the
first
one
here
was
that
essentially
the
applicant
had
to
seek
approval
from
itd
first
by
their
board
and
that
that
meeting
did
take
place
and
itd
approved
that
the
traffic
installation
can
take
place.
And
then
you
know
some
other
points
on
here
is
that
Boise
Hunter
homes
is
going
to
have
to
pay
for
those
improvements
to
take
place.
N
You
know
there's
quite
a
few
of
them
here
in
that
that
intersection
is
a
proposed
to
be
a
continuous
green
tea
signal,
design
intersection
the
applicant
print.
It
can
hopefully
provide
some
more
information
about
what
that
green,
tea
would
look
like,
and
then
you
also
have
itd
is
here
with
us
tonight.
N
So
now
we're
getting
into
the
language
that
will
need
to
be
amended
so
Dry
Creek,
Ranch
development
plan
element,
F2
and
element
G
utilize,
the
old
traffic
information
or
impact
study
from
2016.,
and
so
that's
what
itd
originally
gave
their
comments
and
decisions
based
on
was
that
old
Tis.
So
these
sections
now
need
to
be
amended
before
Dry
Creek
Ranch
development
agreement.
N
So
at
this
time
you
have
a
planning,
zoning
commission
is
recommending
approval.
Staff
is
also
a
recommending
approval.
We
did
have
some
comments
that
have
been
received
throughout
this
process
from
the
public.
Some
and
support
some
in
opposition,
and
the
only
agencies
that
have
raised
any
concern
in
direct
opposition
is
the
city
of
Eagle.
Other
comments
are
within
your
your
staff
report
and
yeah.
They
have
some
specific
concerns.
N
I
can
note
them
here.
This
was
from
exhibit
number
17
and
they
have
a
more
updated
letter,
but
they
do
not
support
the
application,
as
driver
safety
would
significantly
decrease.
Local
connectivity
would
be
hindered
by
way
of
under
utilizing
a
planned
local
roadway
and
traffic
efficiency
would
decrease
on
a
regionally
significant
arterial
road.
So
those
were
some
of
their
comments,
but
perhaps
they're
here
tonight
provides
some
more
testimony
for
you
with
that.
This
presentation
will
be
exhibit
number
24
and
I
will
stand
for
any
questions.
N
N
A
All
right
are
there
any
questions
from
the
staff.
You
have
any
questions
so,
okay,
thank
you.
We
will
take
probably
testimony
now.
I
might
remind
you
that
probably
testimony
is
limited
to
three
minutes.
There
will
be
a
light
turned
on
and
when.
G
A
O
All
right,
thank
you,
commission.
My
name
is
Travis
Hunter
with
Boise
Hunter
homes
and
Dry
Creek
Ranch
we're
here
today,
as
Conor
explained
asking
for
development
agreement
modification
and
a
comprehensive
plan
Amendment.
O
This
is
kind
of
unique,
but
although
Ada
County
does
not
directly
govern
the
state
highways
and
the
roads
that
access
it,
this
da
mod
and
comp
plan
amendment
allows
us
to
conclude
the
two-year
Journey
that
we've
been
on
with
itd
and
achd,
seeking
the
safest
and
most
functional
solution
to
this
intersection.
So
this
may
be
slightly
redundant,
but
I'll
just
walk
you
through
a
little
bit
more
of
the
history
next
slide.
O
So
in
2016,
when
we
received
our
amended
entitlements
for
Dry
Creek
Ranch,
there
was
a
traffic
impact
study
performed
by
Kittleson
that
did
recommend
signalization
or
roundabout
at
both
Dry
Creek
Road
and
Highway
55
and
Brookside
Lane
and
Highway
55..
Those
conditions
were
not
adopted
at
the
time
by
achd.
In
2019,
we
installed
a
traffic
signal
at
Brookside,
Lane
and
Highway
55,
that
was
about
after
our
first
phase
of
development
and
some
residents
started
getting
in
there,
which
we
paid
for
100
percent
August
2021.
O
So
we
began
to
realize
the
significant
need
for
signalization
at
Dry,
Creek,
Road
and
Highway
55,
so
we
got
together
with
the
board
of
County,
Commissioners
I,
believe,
commissioner
David
San
and
commissioner
Beck.
O
You
guys
were
there,
commissioner,
Daley
that
you
weren't
at
that
point
and,
and
you
guys
recommended
that
we
work
with
itd
and
achd,
specifically
in
the
context
of
studying
the
surrounding
sections
of
Highway
55
and
taking
it
into
account
current
and
future
regional
growth,
so
in
August,
or
in
October
of
2021,
itd
and
achd
set
the
scope
of
the
intersection
analysis
that
we
were
doing,
which
included
how
it
interacts
with
Beacon,
Light,
Brookside,
Lane
and
Brookside
Lane,
and
taking
into
account
a
specific
high
volume
traffic
times
like
Friday
afternoons
and
Sunday
afternoons.
O
O
You
understand
why
we're
here
so
between
Cartwright
Ranch,
Hidden,
Springs
and
Dry
Creek
Ranch.
There
are
approximately
3
500
entitled
homes
about
two-thirds
of
them
exist
today,
which
will
house
10
000
residents,
who
will
access
Highway
55
from
the
East.
That's
a
population
greater
than
most
cities
in
Idaho.
If
this
signal
does
not
get
installed,
there
will
only
there
will
be
funneled
to
one
signalized
intersection
at
Brookside
Lane
in
Highway
55.
The
yellow
line
on
this
exhibit
slide.
Connor.
O
The
second
common
question,
actually
that
that
those
who
travel
55
have
is,
will
you
have
to
stop
at
both
Dry
Creek
Road
and
Brookside
Lane,
when
they're
traveling
through?
And
the
answer
is
that
at
full
build
out
of
Dry
Creek
Ranch,
approximately
20
35?
You
will
still
only
have
to
stop
zero
or
one
time
at
these
lights
at
both
of
them,
and
this
is
accomplished
by
synchronizing
these
two
lights
together,
which
has
been
given
as
a
condition
of
approval
by
itd,
in
fact,
to
even
further
to
even
further
the
highway
55's
efficiency.
O
So
the
the
third
key
finding
is
these
two
coordinated
lights
actually
give
more
green
time
to
Highway
55
drivers
than
if
there's
only
one
light
that
was
not
coordinated,
and
this
is
because
of
a
phenomenon
called
queuing.
So
as
an
example,
if
you
have
20
cars
that
are
all
on
a
line
trying
to
enter
Highway
55
at
one
location,
the
Q
of
20
cars
takes
longer
to
enter
the
highway
at
one
location
than
it
would.
If
the
20
car
line
was
split
into
210
10
car
lines,
they
entered
the
highway
at
mirroring,
coordinated
intervals.
O
You
guys
have
probably
seen
you
know
right
here
on
Front
Street
in
Myrtle.
How,
when
signals
are
timed
together?
It's
it
adds
great
efficiency
and
then
the
fourth
key
finding
was
that
this
improves
safety
at
the
intersection
today
and
in
the
future,
all
while
accomplishing
Mobility
on
Highway
55..
O
So
you
guys
are
probably
curious.
What
does
this
intersection
look
like?
So
there
were
several
intersection
configurations
studied
in
this
analysis,
and
the
best
solution
for
integrating
local
Mobility
with
the
regional
demands
is,
what's
called
a
green
tea.
It's
essentially
similar
to
a
traditional
T
intersection,
incorporating
all
the
same
turning
movements
but
plus
there's
an
additional
southbound
through
Lane
that
experiences
no
DeLay
So.
If
you
could
imagine
you're
coming
down
from
a
call,
you
could
just
jump
in
that
lane
never
even
have
to
hit
the
signal.
O
It's
a
pretty
Innovative
solution
that
adds
to
efficiency,
so
go
ahead
on
the
next
slide
Connor.
So
the
next
three
slides
will
are
a
support
that
we've
gathered
from
the
community
as
we've
been
going
through
this
two-year
process.
So
this
first
page
is
the
cover
page
of
a
of
a
sheet
with
125
signatures
from
Dry
Creek
Ranch
residents
that
are
in
support
of
this
of
this
signal
next
slide.
O
So
this
next
slide
is
a
letter
support
produced
by
the
town
door,
East
Hidden,
Springs,
Ada
County
constituents
as
a
side
note,
as
we
continue
to
develop
Dry
Creek
Ranch,
we're
widening
and
straightening
Dry
Creek
Road
we're
actually
rebuilding
it.
Gliding
and
straightening
is
the
is
I
guess
the
way
you
describe
it,
but
when
we
complete
this
Dry
Creek
Road
will
be
a
straight
shot
from
Hidden
Springs
to
Highway
55,
all
all
the
more
greatening
the
need
for
signalizing
the
intersection
at
Dry,
Creek
and
55..
O
This
will
be
a
huge
amenity
to
the
residents
of
Hidden,
Springs
and
Cartwright
Ranch
next
slide,
and
then
this
is
the
letter
of
approval
with
the
conditions
from
itd
and
achd
who
are
in
sync
and
we're
we're
agreeable
to
them
as
well.
P
O
Next
slide
so,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
as
we
continue
to
develop
Dry
Creek
Ranch
we're
transforming
Dry
Creek
Road
from
what
was
essentially
a
county
road
that
was
paved
with
extreme
horizontal
and
vertical
curves
to
a
standardized
arterial,
Road
Ray,
that's
specked,
to
receive
a
much
higher
volume
of
traffic,
giving
a
straight
shot
from
Hidden
Springs
to
55.
on
the
screen
is
a
nice
picture
of
the
first
section
that
we've
completed
bike
Lanes
on
both
sides
of
the
road
detached
sidewalk
on
both
sides
of
the
road
nice
trees
on
both
sides
of
the
road.
O
I
wanted
to
share
with
you
obligations,
we've
already
fulfilled
and
will
continue
to
fulfill,
so
the
Highway
55
widening
project
we're
contributing
the
full
cost
of
that
3.4
million
dollars.
We'll
take
it
from
two
lanes
to
four
lanes
wide
for
about
a
mile
and
a
half
from
Beacon
Light
to
the
Shadow
Valley
Golf
Course.
The
Brookside
Lane
signal
that
we
put
in
with
the
hard
cost
in
the
engineering
was
about
two
million
dollars
on
our
dime.
O
The
Dry
Creek
Road
signal
that
we're
asking
for
today
it
will
cost
about
1.6
million
dollars,
the
residential
impact
fee
that
we
paid
for
it's
a
just,
an
achd
impact
fee.
It's
about
3
500,
a
unit
that
will
total
to
6.3
million
dollars
over
the
course
of
this
project,
the
X.
We
actually
have
an
extraordinary
achd
impact
fee
as
well.
That's
basically
unique
to
this
project
and
a
few
properties
around
it.
We
weren't
involved
when
it
was
created
our
predecessors.
O
O
So
in
total,
there's
about
22
million
bucks
or
about
12
000
at
home
for
improvements
that
Dry
Creek
Ranch
is
paying
for
that
are
Regional
traffic
improvements,
not
just
internal
roadways,
and
to
put
that
in
context,
like
I,
said
the
average
home
in
the
area
if
they
don't
get
any
specific
conditions
of
approval
from
achd
they're,
just
paying
3
500
a
piece
for
an
impact
fee
and
if
they
don't,
if
they're
not
adjacent
to
a
state
highway,
they
they
have
no
obligation
to
itd
get
in
light
of
that.
O
So
kind
of
where
it's
relevant
to
to
Ada,
County
and
planned
communities
for
those
who
didn't
have
the
benefit
of
being
part
of
our
2016
approvals,
I
want
to
share
with
you
a
critical
piece
of
how
planned
communities
in
Ada
County
are
designed
to
work
so
plan
communities
are
designed
to
incorporate
these
items
on
the
slide,
along
with
several
others,
with
the
purpose
of
creating
a
community
that
is
as
self-sufficient
as
possible.
O
Although
this
is
not
our
primary
purpose
for
the
light,
a
signalized
intersection,
that's
at
this
location
would
allow
our
85
000
square
feet
of
approved
commercial
to
come
to
life
over
the
last
five
years.
We've
marketed
this
property
to
commercial
users
and
have
yet
to
have
any
serious
takers
because
they
didn't
know
what
the
access
would
be
on
highway
55..
O
So
signalized
access
on
this
corner
will
give
the
the
local
businesses
the
certainty
they
need
to
to
place
their
bets,
and
it
will
allow
a
Dry,
Creek
Ranch
to
accomplish
trip
capture
like
it
was
designed
to
next
slide.
O
My
last
and
most
meaningful
point
is
that
if
Dry
Creek
Road
is
not
signalized,
it
will
ultimately
Force
1100
homes
or
about
3
500
people
in
the
highlighted
yellow
area,
which
is
the
Dry
Creek
Hills
section
of
our
development,
it
will
force
them
all
out
at
one
signalized
intersection
and
they'll
have
to
go
right
through
the
middle
of
the
neighborhood,
which
is
not
an
optimal
solution
for
safety
traffic
flow
people
out
and
about
enjoying
the
neighborhood,
and
that
that's
because
they
won't
be
able
to
go
out
at
at
Dry
Creek,
Road
and
Highway
55
and
make
a
left.
O
So
the
next
slide
shows
you
that
a
little
bit
better.
But
when
Highway,
when,
when
Highway
55
goes
from
two
lanes
to
four
lanes,
the
left-hand
turn
here
will
be
restricted.
So
that's
what
is
going
to
force
all
all
those
houses
in
the
Hills
to
go
through
the
middle
of
the
neighborhood
and
out
at
one
intersection
next
slide.
O
So
in
conclusion,
Ada
County,
you
guys
are
you
guys,
were
a
meaningful
part
of
helping
recommend
this
process.
This
two-year
process
we
just
went
through
with
achd
and
itd.
Your
staff
recommends
approval,
we're
paying
for
100
of
the
improvements.
Achd
recommends
approval
the
ITV
board,
how
do
unanimous
approval
and
your
planning
zoning
commission
how
to
unanimous,
unanimous
approval
so
we're
asking
for
your
approval
and
I'm
happy
to
stand
for
any
questions.
O
I
I,
don't
know
what
the
exact
tally
of
of
crashes
at
that
intersection
is,
but
I
could
tell
you
that
and
there'll
probably
be
some
residents
here
to
tell
you
that
it's
you
know
pulling
out
on
a
Highway
55.
Without
a
signal
people
try
to
time
it
jump
the
gun
when
they're
coming
out
at
night.
They
don't
realize
that
it's
a
55
mile,
an
hour
Zone,
but
people
might
be
going
70.,
it's
a
dangerous
inner.
F
C
A
You
mentioned
you're
going
to
put
a
four-lane
road
in
there
from
there
to
down
to
the
golf
course
correct,
or
up
to
the
golf
course
actually
yeah.
How-
and
you
mentioned
that
that
the
left
turn
lane
would
be
would
be
restricted.
How
would
that
work
without
the
without
the
line?
Yeah.
O
O
A
N
Chairman
Beck
Mr
Hunter's
presentation
here
is
going
to
be
exhibit
number
47
for
the
record.
Thank.
A
You
yep
all
right
now,
we'll
take
public
testimony.
We've
heard
from
the
applicant
and
we've
heard
from
our
staff,
and
so
I
have
a
page
here
of
people
that
want
to
talk
to
it.
I'll
just
go
down
the
list.
We
ask
you
to
indicate
if
you
wanted
to
testify
and
only
a
couple
said
they
didn't
so
I'm.
Assuming
that
you
do
okay,
Arlen
hacker.
A
A
I
guess:
there's
a
St
I
can't
understand.
I
can't
read
the
the
writing
here.
Caleb
leiky
over
here,
okay,
go
ahead.
Okay,.
Q
My
name
is
Arlen
hacker
and
I
live
at
43
South
Pitt
Lane
in
Napa
I'm,
a
director
on
the
Idaho
Horse,
Council
and
I'm,
chair
of
the
southwest
regions,
trails
and
Open
Spaces
I'm
here
to
say
that
I
I'm.
Fourth,
the
traffic
light,
but
I'd
also
like
to
cons,
have
you
consider
to
modify
the
language
in
the
development
further
to
improve
safety?
Q
The
construction
of
Trailhead
and
trails
connecting
Eagle
bike
park
into
avamor
Trails
is
in
the
dry
Creeks
development
current
contract.
At
that
time
there
is
no
designation
for
when
those
Trails
or
Trailhead
will
be
built.
Q
Not
only
will
this
help
immediately
right,
equestrian
trails
that
are
being
lost
at
alarming
weight
rate.
Avamor
has
generously
agreed
to
donate
two
acres
of
land
for
Trailhead
construction,
Dry
Creek
Trails
would
connect
the
trail
to
the
eagle
bike
park
and
to
avamor's
equestrian
Trails.
Sadly,
there's
already
been
one
fatality
that
could
have
been
prevented
if
this
Trailhead
had
been
completed
a
14
year
old
boy
was
hit
by
a
truck
on
his
way
to
Eagle
bike
park.
He
belonged
to
his
school's
bicycle
team
and
was
an
experienced
bicycle
Rider.
Q
Let's
prevent
further
incidences
like
this
by
correct
by
putting
in
a
proper
trail
head
and
trails
for
connection.
Please
add
the
cause
clause
for
construction
within
50,
but
building
permits.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Are
there
any
questions
of
Arlen.
E
Well,
maybe
just
a
comment:
Mr
chair,
we're
very
familiar
with
the
situation
and
we
we've
been
working
on
addressing
the
trails
issue
in
Dry,
Creek
I'm,
not
sure
we
can
take
that
up
as
part
of
this
application,
but
that
is
something
that
will
is,
is
being
discussed
and
will
come
back
to
us.
Yes,.
R
My
name
is
Brian
Graham
3855,
West,
Lorenzo
Lane
in
Eagle
I,
just
punctured
my
lung
over
the
weekend
in
an
accident,
so
I
don't
know
how
well
I'm
going
to
speak
here.
So
please
forgive
me,
I'm
gonna,
piggyback
on
what
the
last
speaker
just
said
to
save
some
time,
I'm
the
volunteer
team
director
for
the
Eagle
High
School,
Mountain,
Bike
team
and
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
our
75
student
athletes
and
30
plus
coaches.
On
this
matter.
R
We
also
have
the
support
of
the
other
Treasure
Valley
high
school
teams,
which
numbers
in
the
the
hundreds
of
student
athletes
and
parents
that
would
support
us
in
completing
our
goal
of
getting
a
regional
trail
connected
from
avamor
through
Drew
eye
Creek
Ranch,
all
the
way
to
the
bike
park
due
to
time
limitations,
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
the
benefits
as
such.
This
Trail
I'll
leave
that
to
other
people,
but
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
that
getting
this
Trail
in
has
been
the
number
one
priority.
R
Since
the
death
of
our
teammate
Ryan,
who
last
year,
we've
met
as
a
team
with
all
stakeholders
to
get
this
Trail
completed,
and
almost
everyone
is
on
board
to
do
it
now,
because
they
realize
the
importance.
We
also
had
a
really
great
meeting
with
Boise
Hunter
homes
who
again
owns
that
property
right
in
the
middle
they're
on
board
as
well,
but
they
need
to
finish
some
development
and
Grading
plans
before
being
able
to
convey
that
easement
for
a
trail.
R
We
understand
that,
but
we're
just
since,
as
the
previous
speaker
mentioned,
there's
no
timelines
identified
in
the
current
development
agreement
with
the
county.
We
fear
that
changing
market
conditions
in
real
estate
or
changes
in
the
plan
for
the
Dry
Creek
Ranch
development
as
a
whole
could
either
eliminate
or
significantly
delay
such
a
trail.
R
We're
pretty
neutral
on
the
stoplight
I
mean
we're
all
about
safety.
At
this
point
and
I
think
the
more
that
we
can
get
kids
off
the
road
and
onto
dirt
trails
would
be
the
safer
last
point,
even
though
full
build
out
isn't
complete
at
Dry
Creek.
R
That's
not
required
to
have
this
Trail
completed,
as
has
been
shown
by
the
avamor
development.
This
Regional
Trail,
or
at
least
portions
of
it,
could
be
done
in
a
temporary
fashion
that
could
be
moved
later
on
to
fit
with
the
timeline
required
by
Dry
Creek
Ranch.
So
thank
you
for
letting
me
speak
and
again.
We
look
forward
to
working
with
all
the
stakeholders
on
this,
especially
Boise
Hunter
homes,
as
we
think
this
could
be
a
tremendous
asset
to
the
entire
Community.
Thank
you.
Okay,
I.
R
Absolutely
for
safety
reasons,
we'd
have
to
work
work
through
that,
but
we
also
have
the
full
support
of
the
Southwest
Idaho
mountain
biking.
Association.
We
have
financial
support
to
get
help
this
as
well
and
we're
more
than
willing
to
to
meet
with
the
folks
involved,
including
Boise
Hunter
homes,
on
a
a
way
that
this
really
wouldn't
impact
Boise
Hunter
homes
financially
at
all.
A
R
Yeah,
if
it
was
a
temporary
Trail,
it
wouldn't
be
completed
to
final
I
mean
it
would
be
more
of
a
pathway
really
just
a
connection
until
development
is
complete
and
then
the
professional
Trail
Builders
could
get
in
there
and
and
build
it.
The
way
it
was
supposed
to
be
to
code.
Okay,.
C
I
A
E
Follow
up
on
that
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
believe
we
directed
our
parks
and
waterways
committee
to
start
some
conversations
with
Dry
Creek
regarding
a
potential
temporary
Trail
until
a
permanent
one
could
be
erected.
A
Okay,
Caleb.
S
Good
evening,
Mr
chairman
Commissioners
Kayla
Blakey
I'm,
the
district
engineer
for
itd
District
3
here
in
Boise,
really
just
came
this
evening
to
stand
for
any
questions
you
may
have
Commissioners.
But
let
me
offer
a
few
comments
in
support
of
what's
been
said
previously
and
and
comment
that
I'm
neutral
on
the
action
tonight
of
the
commission.
S
We
did
reconsider
the
previous
actions
for
this
development
agreement,
given
the
development
growth
in
the
valley
at
large,
but
also
here
focused
at
Dry
Creek
and
up
the
up,
the
Dry
Creek
Road.
There
felt
it
warranted
further
consideration.
I
did
want
to
point
out
to
the
commission
that
a
traffic
signal
warrant
is
not
a
mandate
for
a
traffic
signal.
A
traffic
signal
warrant
is
the
the
minimum
threshold
to
consider
further
a
traffic
signal
and
we
have
met
that
minimum
threshold.
S
You
already
have
my
previous
comments,
in
which
we
see
a
pathway
forward
for
signalization
at
the
dry
creek
intersection,
but,
as
we've
heard,
some
comments
about
dangerous
intersections.
The
previous
proposal
that
was
agreed
to
the
development
agreement
for
writing
right
out
would
address
a
lot
of
the
safety
concerns
that
are
being
mentioned
or
pointed
to
so
that
that
was
acknowledged
in
the
previous
development
agreement.
S
I
do
see
value
in
the
the
green
tea
application
that
wasn't
previously
considered
as
one
of
the
things
we
took
up
in
that
it
minimizes
impact
to
the
highway
system
as
well
described
previously
that
southbound
traffic
will
receive
no
additional
delay
in
Northbound.
Traffic
can
be
coordinated
to
only
have
one
stop
or
potentially
no
stops.
So
I
I
see
a
lot
of
value
in
that,
especially
given
the
Friday
PM
Peaks
Thursday,
PM
Peaks
and
Sunday
PM
Peaks
returning
and
going
to
the
mountains.
A
All
right,
I
would
have
a
question
if
at
the
four
lanes
that
100
homes
is
required
to
build
from
there
up
to
the
golf
course
it
once
that's
built.
Will
there
be
a
left
turn
signal,
not
signal,
but
without
a
light.
How
would
people
get
if
they're
going
left?
How
would
they
get
on
the
road.
S
No,
there
would
be
a
restriction
chairman.
We
call
him
a
pork
chop
or
some
delineation
or
a
meeting
that
would
not
allow
a
left-hand
turn
out
at
Dry
Creek
and
then
the
intent
would
be
to
access
Brookside
and
make
your
left-hand
turn
fighting
southbound
from
Brookside.
Well,.
S
Right
and
just
to
clarify
chairman
so
Boise
Hunter
homes
is
contributing
towards
the
widening
of
high
55.
It
actually
is
programming
and
will
be
fully
funding
the
widening
of
Highway
55..
S
So
when
we
talk
about
a
four-lane
highway,
the
the
solution,
there
is
actually
five
Lanes,
creating
a
center
lane
median
or
buffer
and
our
full
width
shoulders
and
drainage
Etc.
So
they
did
do
a
design.
We
ultimately
said
we'd
like
to
build
this
to
our
full
design
standards,
they're,
contributing
the
3.4
million
I
believe
towards
that
without.
S
Bigger
well
making
not
just
bigger
chairman,
but
but
to
our
standards,
to
meet
the
rest
of
the
right
yeah,
the
expectation
for
the
corridor,
so
it'd
be
better
overall
and
and
ideally,
we
can
coordinate
the
installation
of
the
signal
and
that
whitening.
At
the
same
time,
I.
S
The
most
recent
action
Channel
so
because
of
the
spacing
between
Dry
Creek
and
Brookside,
is
less
than
the
idapa
half
mile
spacing
requirement.
There
was
a
requirement
to
go
to
the
itd
board
for
an
exception
to
the
spacing
policy.
That's
what
the
board
approved
was
the
exception
to
the
spacing
policy
for
signalized
spacing
along
the
highway
and.
A
A
S
Correct
so
southbound
traffic
would
experience
no
signalization
or
no
delay
at
Dry
Creek.
So
that
was
you
know
a
bit
of
a
of
a
compromise.
If
you
will
that
we
had
worked
towards
was
a
full-blown
signal
here,
induces
delay
in
all
directions:
we're
really
trying
to
signalize
for
Dry
Creek,
which
is
only
on
the
east
side.
Obviously,
and
so
this
green
tea
only
impacts,
Northbound
traffic
and
then
Dry
Creek
Traffic
no
impact
to
southbound
traffic,
but.
S
F
Yes,
so
your
tis,
then
the
result
of
that
all
of
this
that's
proposed
for
you.
Obviously
we
don't
have
any
impact
on
whether
you
do
or
don't
do
that,
but
if
we
did
what
they're
requesting
it
would
increase,
the
efficiency
of
the
traffic
flow
am
I
correct,
along
55.
S
Mr
chairman,
commissioner
I,
don't
believe
it's
going
to
increase
efficiency.
It's
going
to
maintain
efficiency
on
55.
What
it
may
increase,
and
as
was
well
described,
is
that,
rather
than
having
all
the
traffic
stacked
up
at
one
signal,
you're
gonna
you
build
split
that
eventually
essentially
or
give
more
options
to
get
on
so
I
think
the
trade-off
was
rather
than
having
one
long
delay
at
one
signal
you
might
have
two
shorter
delays,
but
that
that
two
shorter
delays
only
still
impacts
the
highway
once
because
they're
going
to
be
coordinated
to
be
the
same
time.
S
A
Caleb,
yes,
Caleb!
Thank
you
all
right.
There's
some
writing.
Here.
The
next
person
I
I,
can't
read
the
the
name.
It's
a
stiffy
map,
matiste
or
something
I
I,
can't
I
can't
get
that
name:
okay,
Jon
Snow,
Susan,
Alcott
and
Lee
Scott.
C
T
Just
feel
that
this
lie
I'm
and
I'm
in
favor
of
this
light,
I
feel
that
having
no
light
there
is
very
dangerous
and
the
if
once
if
they
were
to
block
off
the
highway
and
make
us
go
down
to
Brookside,
that's
making
a
whole
group
of
Neighbors
in
Hidden
Springs
in
Cartwright
Ranch
have
to
go
all
the
way
down
around
to
Brookside
to
come
back
down
so
I'm
in
favor
of
the
light.
A
U
My
name
is
Lee
Scott
I
live
at
912
and
we'll
go
to
drive
an
eagle
and
I
am
the
head
coach
for
the
Eagle
High
School
mountain
bike.
Team
Brian
is
our
team
director
and
I'm
just
here
to
add
my
voice
to
the
record
Arlen,
the
first
public
speaker
and
Brian.
They
they
did
a
great
job
of
voicing
our
concerns.
U
We
do
I
I'm
just
here
to
voice
a
sense
of
urgency
for
the
possibility
to
add
amended
language
as
a
condition
to
the
amendment
to
require
those
Regional
Trail
connections
as
a
condition
of
the
language
to
the
light.
Commissioner
Davidson,
you
mentioned
that
that
may
not
be
possible,
but
if
it
is
that's
what
we're
here
for
we
are
like
Brian,
said
we're
neutral
on
the
light,
but
we
do
have
an
alignment
with
Boise
Hunter
homes.
We've
met
with
them.
They
were
great.
U
We
have
an
alignment
with
them
on
creating
additional
safety
in
the
area
as
the
head
coach
of
a
team
who
lost
one
of
their
student
athletes
to
this
specific
area
and
making
his
way
to
the
eagle
Bike
Park
to
ride
those
trails,
most
of
which
are
on
County
property.
We
feel
like
this
Regional
connection,
which
is
already
in
their
their
plans,
would
just
benefit
the
entire
area.
U
The
and
commissioner,
back
to
your
question
about
the
help
that
would
be
needed
to
either
one
create
a
trail
two
if
it
needs
to
be
moved.
Yes,
we
have
a
program
in
Nica
in
our
high
school
program,
called
teen
Trail,
Corps,
teen
Trail
core
advocates
for
young
student
athletes
to
learn
how
to
build
Trails
properly
and,
as
part
of
you
know,
being
able
to
move
Trails
because
of
the
construction
that's
happening
so
that
we're
not
in
the
way
and
people
aren't
getting
in
the
way
of
their
Construction.
U
F
Yeah
go
ahead,
I
just
wanna
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
that
commitment,
because
I
know,
as
has
been
as
has
been
stated
here,
the
County's
committed
to
working
through
that
and
I
know.
100
Holmes
is
committed
to
working
through
that.
So
for
the
commitment
of
the
community
to
help
us
do
all
fit
all
those
pieces
together.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
commitment
and
we
we
are
working
through
that
and
we
hope
to
get
it
done.
It's
awesome
great.
A
Thank
you
any
other
comments,
questions.
Thank
you.
Okay,
I'm
gonna
call
one
more
time.
Joanne
snow
is
not
here.
Okay,
next
up,
Bill,
Hernandez.
V
Good
evening,
commissioner,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
talk
today.
My
name
is
Bill
Hernandez
I'm,
a
resident
of
Dry
Creek
Ranch,
my
wife
and
I,
and
my
son
we've
lived
there
for
approximately
three
years
now,
so
we've
seen
the
growth
within
Dry,
Creek,
Ranch
take
off
and
we've
we're
in
support
of
the
traffic
signal.
We
think
that
it's
a
very
reasonable
and
a
necessary
project.
V
We
think
that,
from
a
safety
standpoint
it's
required
just
from
the
level
of
homes
that
have
been
built
there.
Dry
Creek
Ranch
is
probably
at
500
homes.
Now
I
think
the
build
out
will
eventually
be
1800.
I,
Know,
Travis
Hunter
talked
about
you
know
the
existing
homes
that
are
in
the
area.
One
thing
that
I
didn't
see
him
touch
on
was
avalor
the
impact
of
avamor
and
Spring
Valley.
That's
going
to
bring
in
additional
thousands
of
homes
that
will
be
affected.
V
If
we
don't
have
that
traffic
light,
because
if
they
want
to
go
the
backside
to
Dry
Creek
Ranch
they'll
have
to
access
Brookside
to
Spring
Creek,
which
will
then
increase
significantly
the
amount
of
traffic
and
which
is,
coincidentally,
our
only
Clubhouse,
which
we
have
during
the
summer
time
we
have
a
swimming
pool,
which
is
full
of
kids
all
the
time.
So
if
you
have
an
impact
with
all
these
cars,
it's
going
to
be
an
incredible
safety
consideration.
The
other
thing
that
I'd
be
concerned
about
too,
is
the
construction
traffic.
V
So
if
you're
just
having
one
stoplight
you're
forcing
all
the
construction
traffic
which
the
residents
hate
to
take
Spring
Creek,
so
it's
going
to
be
cutting
right
through
our
community.
So
that's
a
big
impact
that
we're
going
to
feel
Travis
Hunter
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
commercial
District
that
eventually
will
come
there.
So,
with
this
traffic
signal,
we'll
be
able
to
safely
have
access
to
that
commercial
District
to
the
highway
as
well.
V
You
know
bottom
line
is
I
mean
this
board
has
approved
all
these
homes
be
built
in
our
area,
hundreds
eventually
thousands
of
homes.
We
need
the
infrastructure
safety
requires
that
from
us.
So
please
give
us
a
traffic
signal
there
to
try
to
keep
our
community
safer
than
what
it
is.
I
empathize
with
the
with
the
mountain
bikers
here
it's
it's
a
horrible
thing
to
have
lost
someone
I'm
missing
out
on
my
mountain
bike
ride
tonight.
V
Normally
a
group
of
us
go
there,
so
if
the
hunters
and
you
in
the
future
can
give
us
that
connection,
that
would
be
awesome.
That's
all
I.
X
W
I
do
live
at
Dry,
Creek
Ranch
with
them
we're
having
divorced
yet
so
we're
good
to
go
right.
So
there
is
an
old
movie
saying
that
if
you
build
it,
they
will
come
well.
You
know
here
we
are,
we
came
and
the
building
hasn't
stopped,
but
the
infrastructure
has
so
the
intersection
of
Dry
Creek
Road.
W
If
you
haven't
told
I've,
haven't
guessed
I'm
in
favor
of
the
light
and
55
needs
the
light
for
safety
of
the
families
that
currently
reside
in
the
subdivisions
of
Cartwright
Ranch,
Hidden,
Springs,
Dry,
Creek,
Ranch,
the
hills,
the
Estates
and
avamor,
as
well
as
any
future
residents
of
these
subdivisions
as
most
of
them
as
we
just
learned,
are
still
being
heavily
developed.
Even
more
families
will
be
using
the
intersection
of
Dry,
Creek
and
55.
W
When
the
charter
school
that
was
approved
is
built
in
this
area,
multiple
families
with
young
children
will
be
utilizing
this
road
school
buses
already
utilize.
The
left
turn
under
55
from
Dry
Creek
and
if
you
guys
were
wondering
about
access,
is
on
that
road.
I
do
take
my
son
to
school
and
there
are
multiple
spin
outs
in
the
snow
because
people
don't
time
it
right
when
a
car
is
coming
this
way
and
a
car
is
coming
that
way
they
try
to
get
out
because
they
know
that
they're
not
going
to
have
a
lot
of
time.
W
One
of
the
options
is
to
eliminate
the
left
left
turn
and
just
make
it
a
right
turn
only
funneling,
all
the
traffic
through
Spring
Creek
road,
which
is
a
quiet
residential
street
where
children's
and
family
walk
through
in
the
subdivision
of
Dry
Creek,
essentially
turning
that
peaceful
neighborhood
into
a
busy
highway,
putting
the
families
my
family
at
risk,
and
so
basically
they
didn't
hesitate
to
approve
the
buildings
and
I'm.
Just
you
shouldn't
hesitate
to
build
the
infrastructure.
That's
going
to
keep
the
family
safe.
That
live
there.
W
W
Y
You,
sir
Jason
Pierce,
1980
West
floating
feather
Road
Eagle,
Idaho
I,
wrote
things
down
because,
as
elected
official
I
could
probably
talk
here
for
20
minutes.
Y
If
you
let
me
so
long
before
this
development
acquired
the
property
and
began
development
of
Dry
Creek
Ranch,
there
was
a
plan,
a
multi-agency
regional
plan
for
roads
and
highways
connecting
the
foothill
areas,
east
and
west
of
State
Highway
55
to
to
the
highway,
with
the
goal
of
limiting
the
impact
of
local
growth
on
the
regional
system,
allow
planned
access
without
creating
additional
delays
on
Regional
and
Statewide
travel
on
the
highway.
Y
The
Northwest
foothills
Transportation
plan
determined
that
north
of
Beacon
Light
Road
access
to
Highway
55
would
be
a
limited
access.
A
series
of
Frontage
backage
internal
collector
roads
would
be
connected
to
provide
local
roadways
connection
on
the
East-West
sides
of
the
highway,
connecting
at
a
grade
separated,
interchange
at
Brookside,
Lane
that
allowed
for
both
crossing
State,
Highway
55,
but
North
and
South
access
to
the
highway
this
network
would
allow
would
allow
the
traveling
public
to
connect
and
travel
parallel
to
the
state
highway,
while
limiting
direct
Highway
access.
Y
Both
the
east
and
west
side
of
the
highway
would
have
access
to
the
highway
without
adding
additional
signals
and
delays
on
the
regional
Network.
At
this
time
of
the
plan,
the
land
adjacent
to
the
highway
was
flat.
Unimproved
Farmland
the
development
agreements
and
plans
approved
by
the
land
use
agency's
eagle
and
Ada
County
were
the
key
to
implementing
the
Northwest
foothills
Transportation
plan
and
access
spacing
limitation,
as
initially
approved
by
the
Dry
Creek
development
agreed
agreement
did
implement
the
Northwest
Foothill
Transportation
plan,
limiting
access
to
State,
Highway
55
at
Brookside
Lane.
Y
Y
So
when
you
look
at
what
has
happened,
if
you
look
at
the
map,
you
saw
some
pretty
strategic
pictures.
If
you
look
at
further
east,
that
is
not
the
only
way
for
those
homes
to
get
out.
Hidden
Springs
can
go
down
to
Gary
Lane
and
get
out
that
way.
Also,
these
are
not
your
only
ways.
If
you
look
at
the
west
side
of
Highway
55,
you
will
see
the
eagle
has
realigned
Brookside
Lane
to
take
an
access
off
Highway
55,
because
that
is
what
ITI
TD
has
asked
for.
Y
We
have
realigned
things
and
then
you
look
at
this
green
tea.
Have
you
seen
people
merge
in
Idaho
the
people
coming
Southbound
on
Highway
55
are
going
to
have
to
merge
from
two
lanes
into
one
to
get
in
that
constant
Lane.
So
you
really
need
to
look
at
the
big
plan
as
a
whole.
Not
just
make
a
decision
for
one
project,
which
is
what
I
think
this
is
happening
here.
So
thank
you.
A
Just
a
question
I
thought
that
was
going
to
be
five
Lanes
coming
down
there.
That's
what
Caleb
just
told.
Y
C
A
Yeah
I
thought
he
said
they
added
the
middle
one
and
then
and
there's
four
lanes
and
and
the
the
green
I
don't
understand
the
green
tea
I
guess
that's
a
yeah.
A
E
Go
ahead
so
I
had
the
grand
plan,
but
now
we're
here
and
I
don't
know
all
the
everything
that
occurred,
leading
up
to
this
and
leading
us
to
here.
But
so
what
happened?
I
mean
did.
Did
the
all
the
signatories
to
the
plans,
sort
of
not
contemplate
where
things
were
going
to
end
up
today
with
the
growth
and
the
the
neighborhood
demanding
the
developer,
demanding
that
that
would
be
here,
I
mean
how
did
if,
if
we
had
this
plan,
how
did
we
get
here?
Do
you
think
well.
Y
The
land
use
agencies,
so
in
this
case
it's
you
guys
and
US
need
to
be
approving
things
to
go
with
the
plan
that
was
created
by
multi
number
of
agencies
and
lots
of
planning,
and
so
I
still
think
you
are
fine.
Where
you're
at
like
I
said
you,
you
got
shown
a
picture
of
3
500
homes
that
all
are
going
to
use
Brookside
and
Dry
Creek
they're,
not.
First
of
all,
you
got
write
in
write
out.
You've
got
going
400
feet
extra
to
go
to
Brookside.
That
road
is
a
collector.
Y
Y
You
know
look
at
what's
just
in
front
of
us
and
once
again,
if
you
go
back
and
you
look
at
the
whole
plan,
you
look
at
Eagles
comprehensive
plan
and
everything
that
we've
put
into
place
to
make
this
better.
This
is
something
that's
going
to
make
it
worse.
The
traffic
does
not
back
up
coming
out
of
Bacall
until
you
get
out
of
the
mountains,
it
doesn't
back
up.
The
backup
happens
at
Highway
44,
going
up
Highway,
55
and
now
you're.
Y
Putting
in
another
light,
you
know
and
I
know
they
can
time
it
I'm
sure
the
Meridian
told
itd
the
same
thing
on
Eagle
Road
when
they
let
the
first
or
second
or
third
or
15th
or
30th.
You
know
entrance
and
exit
off
of
it.
Okay,
we've.
We
can
learn
from
the
mistakes
that
were
made
in
the
past
and
I
think
this
is
one
of
those
where
it
just
doesn't
make
sense.
A
You
any
questions
any
other
questions.
Okay,
thank
you
all
right.
Let's
see,
Heidi
Hartman
and
Stephen
Chrysler.
Z
Good
evening
I'm,
Heidi,
Hartman
and
I
live
at
13660.
North
Sage
grass
place
sorry
it's
a
new
address.
We
just
moved
there,
that's
in
the
Dry
Creek
community,
the
hills
at
Dry,
Creek
and
I
am
here
in
support
of
the
approval
of
the
amendment,
mainly
because
I'm
extremely
concerned
for
my
own
safety,
my
family's
safety
and
the
General
Public
Safety
I
listened
to
the
gentleman
before
me's
concerns
and
comments
about
the
Hidden
Springs
traffic.
Having
the
option
to
go
to
Gary,
Lane
and
I
can
tell
you.
Z
After
living
at
this
residence
for
two
months,
I
have
been
shocked
at
the
volume
of
traffic
that
is
actually
using
Dry
Creek
Road.
It
is
coming
from
Dry
Creek,
Cartwright
Ranch.
Those
folks
are
not
going
to
take
Gary
Lane
State
Street
to
highway
to
head
to
McCall.
They
are
coming
directly
up,
Dry
Creek
Road,
and
not
only
are
they
coming
up:
Dry
Creek
Road,
but
they're
coming
up
fast,
they're,
driving,
very,
very
fast,
and
so
the
impatience
that
people
are
exhibiting
and
trying
to
get
out
onto
the
highway.
I
feel
I.
Z
Take
my
life
in
my
own
hands
every
morning
when
I
leave
to
work
and
every
night
when
I
come
home,
I
do
understand
if
the
left
turn
were
to
be
restricted
with
the
four
lanes
they're.
Turning
to
the
right,
some
may
feel
that
would
be
a
solution.
I
personally,
don't
have
any
problem
with
going
to
the
next
light
and
doing
a
U-turn.
AA
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Stephen
Chrysler
I
live
at
9540,
West
Mary,
Pond
Drive
in
Boise,
the
home
that
I
live
at
the
backyard
faces
Brookside,
and
we,
when
we
moved
there,
we
anticipate
that
Brookside
would
be
a
major
thoroughfare
through
the
community,
but
the
the
issue
is
while
we
may
have
anticipated
that
I
think
a
lot
of
other
people
did
not
anticipate
that
Brookside,
not
Brookside
that
Spring
Creek,
the
north
south,
the
main
North
South
Road
in
in
Dry
Creek
Ranch,
would
also
become
a
collector,
Road
and
I.
AA
Don't
think
that
was
anticipated
and
so
I
think
when
you
look
at
the
plan
that
they
have
with
the
building.
The
logical
thing
that's
going
to
happen
is,
in
addition
to
Brookside
being
used
as
a
major
collector
for
Dry
Creek,
Dry,
Creek,
Road
itself,
I'm,
sorry,
I'm,
a
little
nervous,
Dry
Creek
Road
itself
is
going
to
be
a
major
collector
with
or
without
a
signal
being
at
55
in
Dry
Creek.
The
safest
thing
to
do
would
be
to
to
amend
the
language
in
the
development
agreement
and
allow
that
signal
to
go
in.
AA
If
that
signal
is
not
going
to
go
in,
it'll
be
what's
going
on
right
now,
every
time
we
go
through
that
that
area,
it's
kind
of
where
we
say
it,
there's
a
near
miss
all
the
time.
AA
It
seems
like
every
time
I
go
through
there,
I'm
going
at
about
55
miles
an
hour
and
I
see
somebody's
trying
to
time
me,
and
sometimes
they
can
time
it
right
to
cut
in
front
of
me
and
sometimes
not
in
the
three
years
that
I've
lived
in
that
area,
there's
been
at
least
one
rollover
crash,
I
believe
the
person
in
the
rollover
was
from
Nevada
not
familiar
with
the
intersection
and
I,
don't
know
if
they
they
were
injured
or
if
there
was
a
fatality
or
something
like
that.
AA
But
I
would
ask
that
that
they
allow
the
amend
the
plan,
so
they
can
put
in
the
signal.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
You,
okay,
is.
A
Okay,
hearing
none
100
homes
you
can
rebut
if
you'd
like
to
you,
get
five
minutes.
E
I
ask
staff,
would
you
mind
putting
the
green
tea
intersection
up
on
the
screen?
That
might
be
helpful.
O
Yeah,
thank
you,
commission,
hey
so,
first,
just
just
so:
Dry
Creek
residents
and
others
member
members
of
the
community,
understand
I,
think
Super
highly
of
itd
and
achd
and
how
they've
navigated,
through
this
process,
they've
always
been
Advocates
of
of
of
local
safety
and
Regional
Transportation
mobility
and
background
conditions
change.
This
value
has
changed
so
much
and
they've
been
willing
to
step
into
the
conversation
and
and
come
up
with
come
up
with
meaningful
Solutions
as
hard
as
it
as
it
is
to
change.
O
We've
been
grateful
for
them.
They've
done
a
really
good
job.
O
O
Just
this
week
we
actually
submitted
our
our
easement
agreement
to
the
county
for
the
the
the
temporary
Trail
easement
and,
and
we
submitted
our
first
set
of
of
our
holistic
grading
plans.
We
should
have
them
broken
out
into
four
pieces
by
this
Friday
by
this
Friday
Ada
County
Board
of
Commissioners.
You
guys
will
be
able
to
sign
the
the
easement
agreement
and
we'll
be
Off
to
the
Races.
So
it's
a
it's.
A
big
win
for
everyone.
O
Third
I
I
scratched
my
head
a
little
bit
about
Eagle's
objections.
I,
don't
see
how
our
light
directly
harms
Eagle
in
any
way.
We
personally
aren't
in
the
city
vehicle
we're
not
in
Eagles
area
of
impact
and
to
be
frank,
the
area
across
the
highway.
That
is
an
eagles
area
of
impact
it
may
develop
in
the
county.
O
There's
a
chance
that
happens.
I'll
leave
it
at
that,
and-
and
we've
been
the
only
one-
that's
funded
any
Highway
improvements
in
this
area.
O
There's
been
no
other
developers
that
stepped
up
the
city,
vehicle
hasn't
stepped
up
and
anyway,
I
I
do
understand
how
it
could
be
frustrating
to
planners
when
plans
change
and
our
world
around
us
changes,
maybe
that's
as
much
as
I
empathize
with
their
viewpoints,
but
to
speak
specifically
to
that
I'm
going
to
invite
up
Andy
the
Lyden
with
Kittleson,
and
he
could
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
the
regional
plan.
That
was
that
the
the
mayor
of
Eagle
talked
about.
AB
Thanks
Travis
good
evening,
Andy
Delight
in
with
Kittleson
and
Associates
101,
South,
Capitol,
Boulevard,
Boise,
Idaho,
83702,
chairman
back
and
then
Commissioners.
So
there
was
a
pro
there
was
a
transportation
plan.
It
was
called
the
Northwest
Foothill
study
done
in
2008.
It
was
adopted
by
Ada
County
Highway
District.
At
that
time
it
was
commissioned
and
as
mayor
Pierce
indicated,
it
was
a
joint
effort
among
a
number
of
agencies
in
the
valley
in
20
12
to
2014.
AB
An
update
to
that
study
was
done
and
it
changed
the
recommendations
on
State,
Highway,
55.,
and
so
some
of
those
recommendations
were
looking
at
specifically
elements
on
signals
versus
interchanges.
AB
The
recommendations
there
were
were
along
this
section
that
we're
talking
about
along
Dry,
Creek,
Road
included
signals
at
that
location,
a
signal
at
Brookside
Lane
and
then
the
signal
at
Beacon
Light,
along
with
the
widening
to
four
lanes,
slash
Five
Lanes
on
State
Highway
55.
In
that
section
that
study
ended
up
I,
don't
I
couldn't
find
the
specific
element.
If
that
update
was
eventually
adopted
by
Ada
County
Highway
District.
AB
In
that
process
it
was
updated
and
put
on
hold
due
to
elements
related
to
Future
needs
on
Beacon,
Light
roads
so
separate
issue
to
this,
the
matter
at
hand,
but
the
the
findings
in
that
study
from
a
technical
standpoint
did
identify
signals
at
at
those
two
locations,
Brookside
Lane
and
then
at
Beacon
Light.
To
an
earlier
question
that
commissioner
Dave
Davidson
brought
up
just
related
to
crash
history.
At
that
intersection,
there's
been
eight
crashes
at
the
intersection
of
Dry
Creek
Road
and
State
Highway
55
related
to
the
most
recent
five-year
data
from
itd
great.
A
Thank
you,
thank
you.
So
do
you,
do
you
want
to
close
it
or
wrap
it
up
or
any
additional.
C
E
So
I
think
we
heard
you
know
regarding
the
bypass
lane
going
south.
That's
not
going
to
be
available
at
both
intersections
just
this
one.
If.
O
So
approved,
that's
correct,
I,
don't
know
about
the
future
of
it.
I
know:
there's
constraints
on
right-of-way
on
the
other
side
of
on
the
on
the
west
side,
yeah
on
the
west
side
of
the
highway
at
Dry,
Creek,
Road
and
55
I,
don't
know
what
itd's
ultimate
plans
are
are
what
all
the
possibilities
are
potentially,
but
this
this
is
not
applicable
to
any
change
we're
making
at
that
intersection.
So
I'm
not
sure.
O
Brookside,
it
depends
there's
a
we're.
We
are
obligated
I
believe
that
I
think
it's
nine
see
the
900
or
1300
average
daily
traffic
units
to
have
a
re-evaluation
of
that
intersection.
A
A
I'd
like
to
actually
yeah
you
I
I,
was
unaware
that
you
had
made
this
much
progress
on
the
trails
that
you
just
announced
and
I
think
I.
Think
the
the
occupants
of
the
room
tonight
will
be
very
happy
with
that
and
I
want
to
commend
you
for
doing
that,
because
you
do
have
that
in
your
obligation.
But
it's
a
to
do
the
trails,
but
it's
subject
to
your
development
plans
as
well,
and
so
it
would
it's
commendable
if
you'll,
if
you
wanna,
boost
that
up
a
little
bit,
I
think
it's
commendable.
A
E
Right,
I'll
Echo
that
I
I
was
really
excited
to
hear
that
you
know,
apart
from
this
application,
that's
been
such
a
big
issue
in
the
community
and
so
very
very
happy
to
hear
that
you
guys
are
being
good,
Community
stewards
on
that
issue.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
F
Yes
and
I
would
I
would
like
to
reiterate
that
as
well
like
I
said,
I
and
I
appreciated
the
fact
that
the
community
gave
you
a
thousand
volunteers
to
help.
A
We'll
saw
him
anyway,
thank
you
very
much.
All
right
do
we
have
any
any
any
additional
from
our
staff.
A
You
have
anything
you
want
to
add
a
couple
of
you
want
to
add
the
the
documents
for
the
record.
N
E
Yeah
well,
just
maybe
you
could
summarize
again,
as
you
mentioned,
where
this
body
isn't
in
charge
of
putting
in
a
stoplight
we're
just
amending
a
development
plan.
But
do
you
could
you
summarize
if
you
know
the,
if
this
is
approved,
what
further
steps
need
to
happen
to
put
the
stoplight
in
and
any
other
opportunities
for,
public
input,
yeah.
N
Chairman
Beck,
commissioner
Davidson,
so
if
you
were
to
approve
of
this
tonight,
the
next
steps
would
be
actually
recording
the
the
development
agreement.
The
new
language
as
adopted,
we
would
also
have
the
comp
plan
for
their
development
plan
is
also
changing.
So
we
would
have
to
have
the
resolution
signed
by
you
to
actually
change
that
plan
in
after
that
it
would
be
up
to
Boise
Hunter
homes
and
working
alongside
itd
and
achd
to
work
through
their
process
of
actually
constructing
that
light
and
widening
the
intersection.
N
Making
updates
I
am
not
aware
of
what
that
entails,
or
if
there
would
be
any
additional
public
input.
Yeah,
that's
I
think
that's
info
I
can
give
you
for
now.
A
C
A
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
on
application:
two:
zero:
zero,
six:
zero
zero;
two
one:
nine
CPA
Dam
Dry
Creek
Ranch
Boise
general
homes;
the
application
being
closed.
It
is
before
this
body
for
for
discussion
and
action.
What
is
the
pleasure
of
this
body.
A
F
Well,
based
on
what
I
heard
the
itd
achd,
the
trail
issue
is
now
been
addressed
and
I.
Think,
as
you
stated,
our
own,
our
only
role
is
to
authorize
the
change
that
will
facilit
our
part
to
facilitate
what
may
happen
in
the
future
in
terms
of
the
light,
so
in
that
line,
I
would
move
to
approve
the
application:
two:
zero
zero
six
zero
zero
two
one:
nine
CPA
Dam
tractor
crunch
Boise
Hunter
homes
based
on
the
findings
of
fact,
inclusion
of
law
contained
in
the
staff
report.
The
testimony
we've
heard
tonight.
E
I
I
give
a
lot
of
consideration
to
Mr
Pierce
mayor
of
Eagle
who's.
You
know,
representative
of
the
community.
Who's
worked
on
these
plans.
E
I
have
to
balance
it
with
the
the
needs
and
the
concerns
of
the
community
as
well
again
we're
not
the
ones
putting
in
the
traffic
light.
I
I
do
hope.
Sometime
in
the
future,
itd
can
look
at
having
that
bypass.
Go
to
the
second
intersection,
I
think
only
having
it
at
one
sort
of
defeats
the
purpose
if
it
could
go
to
both
I
think
that
would
alleviate
a
lot
more
problems,
but
I'll
leave
that
to
ID,
itd
and
and
the
community
so
yeah.
Thank
you.
A
A
Okay,
next
up,
we
have
I
will
be
carrying
on
2023-000620a
80
County
development
services.
N
Well,
honestly,
this
is
pretty
straightforward.
If
you
recall
it's
been
quite
a
few
months
now,
but
you
folks
approved
the
ability
for
Dry
Creek
Ranch
to
construct
a
charter
school
or
really
any
public
school
on
the
School
site
within
the
Dry
Creek
Ranch
plan
community
that
went
through
your
process
for
that
development,
agreement,
update
and
change
to
the
the
comp
plan.
N
It's
that
section,
that's
underlined
would
be
the
new
language
that
section
that
is
struck
through
would
be
removed,
and
so
these
changes
will
allow
for
a
letter
to
be
submitted
by
the
public
school
entity
who
receives
the
designated
School
site
from
Dry
Creek
Ranch,
which
shall
indicate
how
it
will
meet
the
school
district
needs.
And
then
the
said
letter
will
replace
that
West
ADA
School
District's
previously
submitted
letter
regarding
school
capacity
and
facility
needs
so
that
pretty
much
sums
it
up.
We
have
not
had
any
objections
from
anyone.
N
F
Ahead,
just
a
question
to
clarify
and
make
sure
I
understand.
Now
it's
my
understanding,
based
on
what
you
just
said
in
previous
discussions,
that
West
data
school
district
is
because
if
it
happens
to
be
a
charter
school
or
another
school
they're
perfectly
comfortable
with
that
happening,
correct
all.
N
Right
chairman
back
commissioner
Daley,
so
West
data,
school
district
and
the
previous
hearings
that
took
place.
They
were
in
objection
to
allowing
for
this
language
to
be
changed.
However,
the
board
moved
forward.
They
approved
the
change
because
it
still
allows
for
West
ADA
School
District
to
build
a
school
with
that
site.
Westada
had
indicated
that
they
don't
have
any
plans
in
the
near
future
to
have
a
school
constructed
at
that
site,
and
it
was
you
know,
down
the
road
and
so
Dry
Creek
Ranch
and
Boise
Hunter
homes.
N
They
wanted
to
move
forward
and
allow
for
a
school
to
be
built
sooner
at
that
site,
and
so
the
the
language
was
changed
to
allow
for
any
school
any
public
school
entity
to
build
so
West
Ada
could
still
build,
as
could
a
charter
school,
but
the
key
is
that
the
services
will
still
have
to.
As
I
stated.
It
says
that
the
school
that's
built,
they
have
to
indicate
how
they
will
meet
the
school
district
needs
and
those
needs
are
specific
to
West,
Ada
School
districts.
N
A
Okay,
any
comments
from
I.
Don't
have
anybody
signed
up
to
comment?
Has
anybody
for
here
want
to
comment
on
this?
Apparently
now,
with
that
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
on
application.
Two:
zero:
two:
three:
zero:
zero:
zero:
six,
two
zoa
80k
development
services.
It's
up
to
the
board
now
do
I
have
a
motion.
E
Ada
County
development
services,
based
on
the
findings
of
fact,
and
conclusions
and
law
contained
in
the
staff
report
and
testimony
by
Stafford
tonight.
A
Any
further
discussion
hearing
none
you've
heard
the
motion
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
aye
aye
motion
carries
thank
you.
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
on
application.
Two
zero:
two:
three:
zero:
zero:
five:
oh
six,
the
PBA
Arnett
Johnson.
N
You,
sir
chairman,
back
Commissioners.
The
next
application
is.
N
So
this
is
a
application
for
a
variance
to
reduce
the
size
of
a
property
associated
with
a
proposed
property
boundary
adjustment
below
the
minimum
allowed
acreage.
The
property
is
generally
located
at
7780,
South
Ridgewood
Road
and
contains
59.36
Acres
as
a
whole,
and
that's
within
the
rural
residential
are
our
districts.
N
So,
as
you
can
see
here
on
your
screen,
we
have
two
Parcels
that
exist
today.
There's
a
49.17
acre
parcel
and
then
there's
a
10.19
acre
parcel.
So
the
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
do
a
property
boundary
adjustment
that
would
create
a
1.41
acre
parcel.
That's
this
small
little
guy
here,
as
well
as
the
Remain,
the
remainder
which
would
be
56.83,
acre
parcel
for
AG
land,
and
so
there
are
some
existing.
If
I
go
back
here,
you'll
see,
there's
an
existing
house
and
some
accessory
structures
on
that
10
acre
parcel.
N
So,
while
each
new
parcel
would
contain
the
required
Frontage
along
Ridgewood,
there
properties
within
the
rural
residential
are,
our
district
are
required
to
be
at
least
10
acres
in
size,
so
due
to
the
inability
to
meet
the
acreage
requirement,
that's
why
the
applicant
has
included
the
variance
for
relief
from
that
dimensional
standard.
N
So,
as
you're
probably
aware
by
now,
variances
have
three
main
findings
that
have
to
be
made.
The
first
is
that
the
variant
shall
not
Grant
a
special
right
or
privilege
that
is
not
otherwise
allowed
in
the
base
District,
and
so,
while
this
new
1.41
acre
parcel
will
not
be
in
conformance
with
the
dimensional
standards
for
the
RR
districts,
rural
residences
are
defined
in
the
Ada
County
code,
AS
farm
development,
right
Parcels,
non-farm,
residential
lots
and
non-conforming
residential
Parcels
under
2.5
acres
in
the
world-based
districts.
N
However,
the
creation
of
new
non-conforming
residential
property
would
be
a
special
right
or
privilege,
because
it's
specifically
below
10,
acres
and
you're,
creating
a
new
non-conformity
next,
is
that
the
variants
shall
relieve
an
undue
hardship
due
to
the
characteristics
of
the
site.
So
the
applicant
noted
that
the
variant
should
be
granted
to
preserve
the
historic
Homestead
Property.
N
Unfortunately,
the
current
property
owners
tore
down
the
historic
house
in
in
2013
and
replaced
it
with
a
new
house.
This
is
from
Google
Maps
street
view.
I
believe
this
is
a
2019
aerial,
so
potentially
things
have
changed
a
little
bit,
but
you'll
see
here
the
the
house
that
is
now
current,
replace
that
that
old
house
that
was
built
back
in
the
20s
and
to
continue
the
quote.
N
Therefore,
the
structure
that
placed
the
property
on
Ada
County's
historic
resource
inventory
is
no
longer
on
the
property
so
based
on
the
statement,
the
historic
nature
of
the
site
as
a
reason
to
Grant,
the
variance
is
no
longer
applicable
granting
of
the
variants
purely
for
the
agricultural
use,
your
great
irrigation
well
and
Andrew's.
Lateral
all
to
remain
on
one
parcel,
does
not
relieve
and
undue
hardship
with
or
without
the
property
boundary
adjustment
that
agricultural
use
the
well
and
the
canal
can
also
remain
on
on
the
property
as
a
whole.
N
Lastly,
must
not
be
detrimental
to
any
public
health
safety
and
Welfare.
We
did
not
receive
any
other
comments
from
agencies
that
this
would
create
any
kind
of
issues
with
public
health,
safety
and
Welfare,
so
that
finding
can
be
made,
but
the
other
two
staff
does
not
believe
that
they
can
be
made.
So
we
are
recommending
denial
of
the
application
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
A
Okay,
I
have
a
question:
did
our
plans
on
the
committee
consider
this
application.
N
Chairman
back
no
sir,
that
because
there's
a
variance
that
was
included,
this
is
right
to
you
right
to
the
board.
Okay,.
A
E
N
Yeah
chairman
Beck,
commissioner
Davidson
I,
do
believe
that
the
applicant
is
here
tonight,
so
they
can
touch
based
on
this
a
little
further.
They
are
stating
that
there
are
some
what
they
call
Historic
structures
on
the
site.
You'll
see
one
here
just
to
the
left
of
this
Spruce
or
pine
tree.
That
is
the
older
structure.
That's
there.
It
is
not
registered
with
the
as
a
historic
place
within
the
National
Registry.
N
So
that's
why
our
historic,
Preservation
Council
did
not
deem
this
property
to
be
historic,
because
it
was
specific
to
that
house
that
was
torn
down.
So
the
applicant
still
believes
that
there
are
some
other
historic
buildings
along
with
this
one
I
believe
there's
one
behind
the
house
that
are
still
historic
in
nature,
and
so
therefore
they
want
to
preserve
that
and
bring
it
back
to
what
the
homestead
originally
looked
like.
N
If
I
go
back
here
to
the
aerial,
the
homestead
is
going
to
be
surrounded
here
in
the
lower
left
hand
corner,
which
would
be
that
1.41
acre
piece.
So
that's
what
that's!
What
the
applicant
has
stated
as
the
reason
to
keep
that
historic
space
left
alone
and
then
the
rest
of
the
property
would
remain
as
AG
land.
E
Yeah
but
again
I'm
just
curious
how
moving
the
boundary
has
any
effect
on
preserving
it.
If
it,
the
boundaries,
not
moved
it's
going
to
get
torn
down,
I
don't
understand
by.
N
Chairman
Beck,
commissioner
Davidson
as
staff.
We
do
not
believe
that
changing
the
boundary
lines
has
anything
to
do
with
preserving
that
structure,
yeah,
that
we
don't
believe
that
that
would
would
deem
this
property
to
be
up,
for
you
know
no
longer
being
used
as
a
historic
resource.
A
C
AC
Go
ahead
apparently
glad
that
we
are
speaking
so
we
can
straighten
out
a
few
details
here.
Okay,
Kyla
stores
is
my
granddaughter:
oh
okay
and
the
the
action
that
we
request
is
going
to
be
more
clearly
explained
by
Kyla
I'm,
introducing
her
I'll,
say
a
few
words
and
then
I'm
going
to.
AE
AC
AC
AC
Kyla
will
explain
further,
but
the
irrigation
well
is
on
the
10
acres.
Now
it
would
still
remain
on
the
8.5,
so
that
would
be
owned
solely
by
whoever
had
that
property
and
it
would
not
share
down
to
the
other
50
acres
that
need
the
water.
If
you
know
things
got
negative
also,
they
would
be
first
in
line
for
the
Andrews
ladder
lateral.
AC
So
she
will
explain
that
again,
probably
more
clearly
so
we're
trying
to
allow
the
Farmland
to
be
contiguous
and
make
a
variance
to
allow
the
home
site
and
yard
to
remain
in
its
natural
configuration
that
has
been
since
19
14
when
they
first
built
their
cistern
on
their
and
it
would
remain
in
family.
The
Idaho
Society
Historical
Society
aptly
put
it
every
Idaho,
Farm
and
Ranch
has
a
history
and
a
family
story,
and
we
want
to
tell
you
ours.
B
Thank
you
chairman
and
Commissioners.
We
appreciate
this
time
to
speak,
Wicked
move
slides.
Thank
you.
So
to
begin,
I
just
want
to
give
a
brief
history
to
give
some
context
on
what
we
would
like
to
accomplish
with
this
variants.
So
this
is
the
house
that
was
in
built
in
1920.
The
site
was
purchased
by
my
third
great
grandparents
before
1914..
B
It
was
taken
over
by
their
son
and
daughter-in-law
and
Arnold
and
Annie
Johnson,
and
then
it
was
sold
to
their
daughter,
glennis,
Johnson
Wells
and
her
husband,
Richard
wells
in
1945
glennis
kept
the
property
in
beautiful
condition
for
the
20
years
after
her
husband
died
and
rented
the
Farmland
until
her
death
in
2012.,
The
Heirs
of
the
will
came
under
joint
ownership
of
the
60
Acres
and
then
continued
to
rent
the
land.
B
They
waited
11
years
to
sell
an
attempt
to
preserve
the
property,
as
my
grandma
said,
and
then
the
oldest
son
Dawn
split
off
the
10
acres,
including
the
homestead.
He
tore
down
the
existing
1920
house
and
did
build
a
new
house
in
2013,
as
staff
showed
he
passed
away
in
2022,
making
his
wife
Judy.
Who
is
here
the
current
owner
of
the
parcel
next
slide?
Please
Before
Dawn
and
his
other
brother
Dale
passed.
They
expressed
a
desire
for
the
will
to
be
carried
out
to
completion
and
sell
the
50
remaining
Acres.
B
B
We're
proposing
that
the
8.5
Acres
of
Farmland
on
the
10
acres
owned
by
Judy
wellsby,
added
to
the
approximate
50
acres
owned
by
Lee
centers,
to
keep
the
Farmland
under
the
same
owner
and
then
my
husband
and
I
have
the
intention
of
buying
the
remaining
1.5
acres
to
continue
its
use
by
the
family
and
use
it
as
to
preserve
our
family's
history.
We
haven't
been
in
farming,
for
the
family,
hasn't
been
farming
the
land
for
years,
and
we
just
want
to
be
able
to
preserve
the
the
site
that
has
meaning
and
memory
for
us.
B
Commissioner,
Ryan
Davidson
advice,
I
heard
you're
concerned
that
it
wouldn't
the
historical
property
would
be
preserved.
Whether
or
not
the
variance
excuse
me
would
be
allowed,
but
we
are
trying
to
make
it
so
the
property
can
be
used
to
its
fullest
productivity,
as
well
as
keeping
the
homestead
within
the
family
instead
of
selling
it
to
a
farmer
who
would
farm
the
land
and
then
keep
the
house,
but
it
wouldn't
be
in
the
family.
B
So
this
next
slide.
Please.
B
So
therefore,
the
goals
we
wish
to
accomplish
are
to
reform
the
continue
continuous
farmland
and
promote
continued
cultural
agricultural
use.
Lease
centers
also
submitted
written
testimony,
saying
that
he
intends
to
continue
using
it
for
agricultural
use,
as
well
as
as
well
as
keep
Dave
Reynolds
on
who's,
been
farming
it
for
years,
so
that
he
he
knows
the
land
and
he's
been
he's
been
in
charge
of
it,
and
he
knows
how
to
use
it
to
its
best
ability.
B
He
also
spoke
of
his
frustration
with
other
projects
that
include
the
sharing
of
water
rights,
saying
that
he
discontinued
those
projects
because
of
disagreements
and
a
point
about
the
irrigation
access
that
my
grandmother
pointed
out
is
to
note
that
it
is
the
irrigation
well,
that
is
situated
on
the
8.5
acres
and
the
Andrews
lateral,
especially
the
irrigation,
well,
is
used
during
the
summer
to
ensure
the
crop
survival.
B
But
if
it's
you
know,
we
just
don't
want
someone,
as
my
grandma
says,
to
get
uppity
and
and
force
the
and
cause
tensions
and
possibly
disrupt
the
well-established
patterns
that
have
already
been
set
for
the
water
rights
Stacy
Wells
is
the
owner.
Judy,
wells's,
daughter
and
stepdaughter,
and
Judy
has
requested
that
Stacy
handle
her
financial
affairs
and
sale
of
the
property.
B
Stacy
has
submitted
a
written
testimony
as
well
saying
that
she
and
Judy
wish
for
the
property
the
the
Homestead
to
remain
within
the
family
Arnett
here,
as
along
with
many
our
family,
including,
are
very
passionate
about
the
preservation
of
family
history.
Next
slide,
please.
B
B
The
variance
has
also
been
found
to
not
be
detrimental
to
the
public
self
health
safety
and
Welfare
by
the
affected
public
agencies,
as
mentioned
by
staff,
and
the
goals
up
on
the
screen
are
the
goals
that
are
fulfilled
by
our
variants,
to
support
agricultural
land
and
to
protect
the
character
and
functions
of
distinct
uses
of
rural
unincorporated
parts
of
Aynor
County,
who
are
literally
like
right
on
the
edge
of
Ada
County
like
you
cross
one
street
and
you're
in
Canyon
County.
It's
crazy
next
slide.
B
Please
we
did
submit
that
this
was
a
historical
site,
as
staff
said
as
part
of
our
original
application.
But
we
also
learned
during
findings
that
the
only
building
that
was
listed
on
Ada
County's,
1999
historic
resource
inventory
was
the
house
built
on
1920.
Since
it
was
torn
down
there.
It
was
replaced
by
a
house
in
2013,
as
mentioned
before,
so
it
is
no
longer
Historic,
Site
292.
B
However,
there
are
other
buildings
on
the
property
that
could
be
considered
to
have
a
store
to
be
against
historical
and
with
historical
value,
with
more
research
as
per
the
achpc.
There
is
an
outhouse
that
has
vines
growing
from
the
pit
inside
there's
an
old
Milk
Barn
that
my
daughter
likes
to
play
by
as
pictured
and
an
old
chicken
coop
that
has
been,
and
it
still
is
used
as
a
gardening
tool
shed
so
historic
value
as
well
as
family
value.
That
would
be
kept
honored.
B
But
if
we
were
able
to
keep
this
variance
and
then
next
slide,
please
the
aerial
view
of
The
Farmstead
shows
the
old
house
that
built
in
1920.
This
was
taken
in
1960
by
the
by
the
oldest
son
Dawn.
Actually,
who
was
a
pilot
and
then
the
the
building
ought
to
next
to
the
road?
Is
the
barn
or
the
the
milk
milkshed,
and
then
the
you
can
see
the
chicken
coop
to
the
east
of
the
house.
B
That
is
still
there.
You
can't
see
the
outhouses
hidden
by
the
trees,
it's
probably
a
good
thing
and
then
next
slide,
please.
So
our
biggest
goal
with
this
variant
is
to
continue
our
family
corner.
Without
this
variance,
my
husband
and
I
won't
be
able
to
buy
the
the
10
acre
property
and
we
won't
be
able
to
manage
it,
but
if
we
can
have
the
the
1.5
Acres,
that
is
something
that
we
can
manage
our
bit.
B
So
if
this
variance
is
approved,
my
husband
and
I
will
be
able
to
purchase
the
Homestead
Property
and
allow
for
eight
generations
to
have
lived
on
this
bit
of
land
erastus
with
his
hard-working
attitude
and
Grandma
Rosie
with
her
Crispin
aprons
lived
in
the
north
most
house
and
then
they're
Sun
Arnold,
and
who
is
an
amazing
Storyteller
and
little
grandma
or
Annie
moved
into
that
house.
B
When
arrest
has
passed
away
and
Rosie
moved
up
to
the
Locust
Grove
Richard
or
dick
Wells
lover
of
peanut
butter
and
gorgeous
grandma
glennis
bought
the
house
in
1945
and
Annie
and
Arnold
moved
to
a
house
on
the
himself
most
section
of
the
property
that
house
there.
It's
most
to
the
South
and
glennis's
youngest
daughter
Arnett
and
her
husband
Ross,
moved
into
that
house
later.
Remodeled
it
and
lived
there
today.
B
B
This
is
this
is
Grandpa
rastas's,
husband,
father
lived
on
the
property
where
the
house
is
in
the
middle
and
I
grew
up.
There.
I
spent
lots
of
time
with
my
maternal
grandparents
and
with
my
great-grandmother,
and
was
able
to
create
lots
of
family
memories
and
want
to
continue
those
with
my
daughter.
B
We
feel
that
this
variance
allows
us
to
fulfill
at
a
County's
goals
of
historic
preservation
and
its
comprehensive
plan
to
protect
the
functions
of
agricultural
land,
as
well
as
allowing
to
our
family
corner
to
perpetuate
next
slide.
Please.
B
In
conclusion,
we
believe
that
this
variance
is
in
compliance
with
the
goals
set
by
Ada
County
and
its
values
of
preserving
family
roots,
but,
and
we
believe
that
it
allows
generational,
Ada
County
residents
to
retain
ownership
of
a
family
Homestead
and
continue
the
family's
Legacy.
Thank
you
and
we
stand
for
any
questions.
B
E
E
B
E
And
then
you
have
or
who
you're
planning
to
sell
the
the
bottom
part
too.
That's.
B
B
The
the
homestead
would
not
be
sold
to
Lee
the
homestead
would
be
so.
What
I
would
buy
that
from
Judy?
My
husband
and
I
are
trying
to
buy
that
section
from
Judy.
B
X
C
A
A
X
F
E
B
We
we
considered
that
option,
however,
the
isn't
in
part
of
the
variance,
because
it's
it's
just
our
personal
problem,
but
we
we
just
don't
have
the
funds
to
buy
at
10
acres
of
Farmland
right
now,
and
it
is
also
because
in
the
future
down
the
road
we
may
not
be
for
here
forever.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
that
that
section
of
Farmland
is
put
together
for
good
for,
for
ever.
AC
Leasing,
Farmland
doesn't
create
enough
income
to
even
pay
for
the
payment
for
the
land,
so
that
becomes
a
problem
when
you're
trying
to
purchase
and
lease
it.
Wouldn't
the
revenue
wouldn't
cover
it,
so
that
would
be
hard
plus
I.
Think
that
I'd
like
to
add
to
that
the
use,
even
though
we
would
be
dividing
off
in
theory
this
piece
so
that
they
could
actually
afford
to
purchase
it
and
keep
it
in
the
family
and
restore
the
gardens
and
everything
that
the
use
of
the
land
itself
and
the
natural
boundaries
will
be
the
same.
AC
There
will
be
no
changes
on
that.
It
will
look
the
same.
It
will
just
be
available
to
family
to
purchase,
the
yard
will
be
with
the
same
border
and
on
the
North.
It
goes
right
through
where
the
cow
Corral
was.
There
is
no
crop
dis
disturbance.
By
taking
that
piece,
the
crop
portion
of
the
Agricultural
will
remain
the
same
as
it
is.
The
irrigation
can
flow
the
same
way,
they've
established
it
so
other
than.
AC
Rules
that
may
not
be
specifically
in
our
behalf
as
as
long-time
citizens
of
Idaho
this
we're
asking
for
the
variance
so
that
we
can
keep
our
family
on
the
land
that
we've
owned
for
over
100
years.
We
would
have
qualified
for
the
century
Farm.
Had
we
not
sold
the
farm
in
2022,
we
could
have
applied
for
that.
E
AC
You
guys
are
in
charge
of
that,
because
it's
zoned
for
Rural
res
it's
it's
owned
for
agriculture,
you
and
you've.
It
is
in
the
place.
I
mean
it's
just
right
on
the
border
of
the
impact
of
Cuna
area
city
of
kuna,
but
it
is
in
a
place
that
you've
kind
of
whether
they
call
it
when
you
you
will
not
allow
any
more
develop
in
that
area.
There
was
a
Housing
Development
that
was
going
to
go
in
across
the
road
from
us
in
2008
and
they,
and
that
was
stopped
because
of
that
limitation.
AC
B
F
N
Yeah
so
chairman
Beck,
commissioner
Daley,
so
there
are
some
options
for
landowners
of
large
tracts
of
land,
specifically
like
a
40,
acre
piece.
If,
if
somebody
wanted
to
continue
farming
most
of
that
land
and
then
have
a
small
Homestead
split
off
could
be
anywhere
from
an
acre
to
two
and
a
half
acres
that
would
be
left
alone.
What
we
call
a
farm
development
right,
so
that
was
an
option
but
because
the
property
had
been
split
after
1985,
and
it
looks
like
how
it
does
now
with
the
10
acre
and
the
40.
N
N
There's
also
it
talks
about
in
there.
It
says
the
farm
development
right
and
it
also
talks
about
non-conforming
properties
in
the
rural
residential
or
you
know
in
the
rural
districts
as
well
as
planned,
non-farm
developments.
So
back
in
the
day,
we
still
allow
for
smaller
acreages
anywhere
from
one
acre
to
two
and
a
half
acre
lots
to
be
created
in
the
RR
Zone.
As
long
as
the
subdivision
left
an
open
space,
Remnant
piece
behind
that
code
is
now
changed.
We
no
longer
allow
for
bet
for
that,
but
there
still
are
some.
N
You
know
lots
left
in
the
county
that
can
contain
that
small
acreage
within
the
zone,
so
those
are
considered
rural
residences
same
with
you
know.
There
were
properties
created
years
ago,
50s,
60s
70s,
that
were
before
this
current
code.
We
have
today
that
maybe
created
some
non-conformities,
so
we
also
consider
those
non-conforming,
Parcels
or
Lots,
either
way
Within.
They
are
our
Zone
that
are
below
two
and
a
half
acres
to
be
considered
non-conforming
properties,
but
they
are
conforming
to
the
rural
residence
standards.
N
N
And
sorry
to
interrupt
Mr
Beck,
we
have
the
exhibits
that
need
to
be
entered
into
the
record,
so
my
presentation
is
exhibit
30..
The
applicant's
presentation
is
exhibit
31.
A
Okay,
all
right
but
I
do
have
a
question.
80
County,
community
and
Regional
planners
Stacy
yarn
can
noted
in
exhibit
20
that
the
property,
boundary
adjustment
and
variance
will
be
compatible
with
the
adopted
comprehensive
plan.
N
So
chairman
Beck,
the
the
property,
boundary
adjustment
and
and
the
way
that
the
the
land
is
being
utilized,
it's
it
is
compatible.
You
know
it's
still
going
to
be
utilized
for
agricultural
use,
the
the
boundary
adjustment
doesn't
change
the
use
and
how
it
aligns
with
the
comp
plan.
But
once
again
that's
specific
to
the
way
the
the
property
is
used,
not
necessarily
the
dimensional
standards
itself,
so
comp
plans
don't
usually
dive
into
the
specific
dimensional
standards.
N
C
A
All
right,
well
I'll,
close
public
hearing
and
then
we'll
have
a
discussion.
I
guess:
I'll
close
the
public
hearing
on
the
application;
two
zero:
two:
three:
zero:
zero:
five:
zero
six
vbpa
BP
ba
okay
public
hearing
being
closed.
The
application
is
in
front
of
the
board.
Is
there
any
further
discussion.
F
Well,
Mr
chairman
I
I
had
the
same
thought
that
you
just
had
that
you
that
you
expressed
there.
That's
why
I
asked
that
other
question.
It
seems
to
me
that
the
the
intent
of
what's
going
on
here
is
is
being
complied
with
in
terms
of
the
at
the
application,
but.
F
A
N
Beck
because
the
use
can
maintain
whether
or
not
the
property
boundary
lines
are
moved.
C
A
N
E
Mr,
chair,
I,
guess,
based
on
the
the
testimony
I've
heard,
I
likely
inclined
to
support
this.
However,
I
would
probably
ask
for
an
additional
condition
related
to
the
historic
structures,
essentially
that
any
historic
structure,
I'd
say
over
50
years
old
could
not
be
demolished
or
altered
without
being.
X
A
A
Haven't
had
a
problem
with
that,
if
you
want
to
do
that,
I'd
say
if
you
want
to.
If,
yes,
we,
because
I
I
think
that
it
that
that
we're
not
granting
a
special
right
of
privilege,
because
the
the
property
I
know
the
boundary
changed
a
little
bit,
but
the
use
is
maintained
the
same
and
could
be
an
undue
hardship.
N
E
H
A
That
would
be
the
motion
the
table
for
the
reviews
for
the.
If
we
want
to
approve
it,
it
would
be
to
to
table
it
until
we
can
revise
the
filings
to.
A
Okay,
and
when
would
you
like
that
to
be
what's
the
date.
H
Mr
chairman,
let's,
if
we
could
focus
on
May
30th,
the
open
business
meeting.
A
Okay,
I
will
open
a
public
hearing,
an
application;
two
zero
two:
three:
zero
zero:
four
six:
six
V
James
Sharon
colbecker;
a
variance
for
the
lot
size;
okay!
Well,
that's
where
staff
to
make
a
presentation
to
us.
AF
202300466-V
is
a
variance
to
Grant
relief
for
lot
size,
as
well
as
a
variance
to
allow
accessory
structures
in
the
form
of
shipping
containers.
Without
a
primary
dwelling,
the
property
is
located
at
the
corner
of
West
Franklin
Road
and
North
Pine
Cone
Lane,
and
contains
1.22
acres
in
the
rural
to
Urban
transition.
District,
the
property
is
located
in
the
west
central
portion
of
Ada
County
near
Meridian
about
a
half
mile
from
the
Canyon
County
border.
AF
Most
of
the
surrounding
air
uses
are
residential
and
agricultural,
with
some
Industrial
in
the
form
of
nearby
contractors
yards.
As
you
can
see
in
the
aerial,
the
applicant
has
applied
for
a
variance
to
make
their
1.22
acre
property
buildable,
as
well
as
a
variance
to
allow
the
applicants
to
place
shipping
containers
over
200
square
feet
on
the
property
without
having
to
construct
and
permit
a
primary
dwelling.
This
is
the
current
layout
of
shipping.
Containers
on
the
property
here
is
a
visual
of
what
the
property
looks
like
currently.
AF
AF
The
purpose
of
having
shipping
containers
on
the
property
is
for
the
property
owners
and
the
immediate
family
to
store
personal
items.
Having
shipping
containers
over
200
square
feet
is
allowed
with
a
building
permit
as
an
accessory
use.
If
there
is
a
primary
dwelling
on
the
property,
the
applicants
have
stated
in
their
detailed
letter
that
they
do
not
have
plans
to
build
a
dwelling
on
the
property
currently
in
order
to
Grant
a
variance.
Three
findings
need
to
be
made.
The
variants
shall
not
Grant
a
right
or
special
privilege
that
is
not
otherwise
allowed
in
the
district.
AF
The
variance
relieves
an
undo
hardship
due
to
the
characteristics
of
the
site,
and
the
variance
shall
not
be
detrimental
to
the
public.
Health
safety
and
Welfare
staff
finds
that
the
variance
to
Grant
relief
from
the
lot
size
requirements
would
constitute
a
granting
of
a
special
right
or
privilege,
as
the
property
owner
would
receive
a
special
privilege
in
being
able
to
obtain
a
building
permit
on
the
property
that
is
less
than
the
minimum
size
for
the
base.
AF
District
staff
finds
the
variance
to
allow
for
shipping
containers
without
a
primary
Doling
would
also
be
granting
a
special
right
or
privilege,
as
this
request
does
not
fit
within
the
scope
of
Ada
County
code.
Section
8-5a
accessory
uses,
which
requires
the
presence
of
a
principal
permitted
use
like
a
primary
dwelling
to
establish
an
accessory
use.
AF
Staff
finds
that
the
variance
for
the
lot
size
would
not
relieve
and
undue
hardship
due
to
the
characteristics
of
the
site,
because
the
property
was
illegally
divided
in
1988..
Staff
finds
that
the
variance
to
allow
for
shipping
containers
would
not
relieve
and
undue
hardship
due
to
characteristics
of
the
site.
AF
Other
agencies
that
responded
to
this
application
did
not
express
concerns
regarding
the
approval
of
the
variants.
If
Plumbing
facilities
are
to
be
installed,
Central
District
Health
would
need
to
approve
it,
or
the
property
would
need
to
connect
to
Central
sewer.
The
future
land
use
of
the
site
is
General.
Industrial
and
the
use
of
shipping
containers
as
personal
storage
would
be
compatible
with
meridian's
Comprehensive
plan.
AF
AF
AF
AF
F
F
You
you
indicated
that
it's
Jet
General
industrial
under
the
Meridian
comprehensive
plan.
Yes,.
AF
So
right
now
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
you
do
in
any
industrial
use
without
a
variance
to
permit
the
lot
size
requirements
and
I'm
not
aware
of
any
compatible
industrial
uses
that
are
allowed
within
the
rut
Zone
off
the
top
of
my
head.
So
theoretically
they
could
rezone
to
an
industrial
Zone,
but,
like
I
said,
it
would
be
difficult
without
access
to
sewer
and
water.
F
And
did
you
have
a
follow-up
question?
Go
ahead?
Did
I
understand
you
correctly.
You
said
it
was
illegally
divided
in
1988.
That's.
AF
AF
A
AG
You
so
I
want
to
just
clarify
a
couple
things.
First
of
all,
so
my
father
bought
this
land
in
1970.,
I'm,
sorry
79..
So
when
they
purchased
the
land
they
went,
they
were
on
leave
from
the
military
when
they
did
so
they
went
out
and
had
some
relatives
to
find
a
realtor
that
would
help
them
purchase
the
land
land
went
through.
They
had
no
problems
with
it.
Ten
years
later,
they
decided
to
start
looking
at
developing
land
for
retirement
for
his
retirement
on
that
land.
That's
when
they
found
out
in
1988.
AG
They
found
that
the
land
was
illegally
subdivided
when
they
purchased
it.
So
I,
don't
know
where
the
it
came
from
and
her
timing
seems
like
a
little
off
than
what
we
were
told.
So
the
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
is
that
we
were
purchased
land
and
then
10
years
later,
they
couldn't
do
anything
with
it
because
it
was
illegally
subdivided.
So
they
were
stuck
between
a
rock
and
a
hard
place.
They
couldn't
do
anything
so
they
just
left
there.
AG
So
for
the
last
40
years,
they've
been
paying
taxes
on
it
with
nothing
on
there
other
than
a
structure
that
was
just
a
small
little
shed.
We
decided
as
a
family
that
we
needed
something
to
put
storage
because
storage
cost
is
out
of
hand
at
this
point,
so
we
put
some
con
axes
on
it
to
do
personal
items
and
store
them
at
that
point,
and
then
we
found
out,
we
made
a
mistake.
We
didn't
go
through
the
proper
channels.
We
didn't
ask
for
the
the
building
permits
and
stuff
of
that
nature.
AG
So
we
went
through
this
process
and
found
out
the
land
is
not
zoned
for
anything.
We
can't
do
anything
with
the
land.
At
this
point
we
can't
build
anything.
We
can't
do
anything
with
it
right
now.
It's
just
a
piece
of
land
that
has
no
function
or
features
that
we
can
even
represent
with
the
current
laws
or
the
the
current
regulations
that
are
out
there.
So
parents
have
been
paying
for
taxes
on
that
thing
for
40
years
and
haven't
had
any
benefit
for
using
it
at
all.
AG
Now,
there's
a
piece
of
parcel
on
the
side
of
it
and
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
bring
that
up,
but
there's
another
piece
of
land
that
is
under
five
acres,
that
it
also
has
a
house
on
it.
So
from
what
she
was
saying
earlier,
you
had
to
have
five
acres
to
build
something
I,
don't
know
how
they
purchased
and
and
also
built
a
house
on
it,
because
the
land
to
the
to
the
right
of
the
screen
is
under
five
acres
and
there's
another
piece
somewhere
on
there
in
that
area
as
well.
AG
AG
Okay,
so
well,
I'm,
sorry!
So,
with
just
limited
options
and
stuff
we
had
in
the
land,
we
decided
to
put
con
axes
on
it
to
help
with
cost
savings
across
the
family.
So
we're
only
using
this
for
personal
use.
We
don't
have
any
want
or
need
to
do
any
kind
of
business
or
sell
it
or
anything
in
that
nature,
as
far
as
even
renting
out
the
conaxes,
this
is
going
to
be
only
for
personal
use
within
our
family
itself,
so
there
there
was
the
option
of
agriculture,
but
none
of
us
are
farmers.
AG
To
be
honest,
with
you,
I
mean
an
acre
is
not
going
to
do
much
for
us
in
the
first
place,
even
if
we
were
so,
it's
not
going
to
help
out.
So
this
was
all
in
representing
of
my
parents
supporting
their
two
children
and
their
grandchildings,
so
we
have
six
grandchildren
also.
That
would
also
benefit
from
using
these
conaxes
as
a
cost
savings
for
their
personal
items
or
items
that
need
to
be
short
in
there.
AG
So
with
these
being
done,
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
trying
our
best
to
do
this.
Now
there
was
a
an
argument
or
not
argument,
but
a
concern
from
the
resident
saying
that
the
conaxes
were
a
color
they
didn't
like.
We
couldn't
completely
understand
that
we
were
going
to
paint
it
put
some
trees
on
it.
That
way
it
was
hidden
from
view
we
put
it
back
in
the
lower
part
of
the
or
back
part
of
the
land.
AG
So
that
way
it
was
invisible
from
the
street
easily
and
it
keeps
the
the
visibility
down
from
anywhere
else
in
the
land.
So
we're
just
asking
that
we
get
some
kind
of
variance
that
way.
We
can
use
the
con
axes,
we'll
pay
for
the
permits,
we'll
do
all
the
stuff
that
we
need
to
do
in
the
proper
channels.
We
just
want
to
do
something
with
the
property
and
not
just
hold
on
to
something
that
doesn't
have
any
value
at
this
point
in
time.
So
thank
you
for
your
time
and
I
have
any.
A
Okay,
so
it
it
appears
to
me
that
all
you
really
want
to
do
is
put
some.
So
some
of
those
temporary
storage
units
on
the
property.
AE
A
AG
We
could,
but
we're
not
looking
to
do
so
now.
I,
don't
know
if
it's
big
enough
to
do
something
like
that.
We
really
just
want
to
do
it
for
our
own
selves,
I
mean
we
have
enough
stuff
right.
AF
E
AF
H
They
kind
of
sort
of
went
about
it
the
wrong
direction.
Again.
This
is
Zone
rural
urban
transition
so
that,
as
far
as
a
commercial
use,
that
would
be
that
would
no
longer
be
an
assessory
use
for
personal
storage
would
be.
A
commercial
operation
may
require
a
rezone
of
the
property
again
without
Urban
Public
Services.
We
would
again
wouldn't
be
able
to
approve
the
rezone
at
this
time.
F
F
H
H
H
H
E
AG
E
Long
have
they
been
on
there,
probably
about
a
year
and
a
half
and
I'm
I,
don't
know
if
you
know
but
I'm
assuming
the
complaint
probably
came
from
a
neighbor
yeah
correct.
Have
you
you
or.
AG
Your
parents
talked
to
all
the
neighbors
yeah
we've
actually
met
with
all
the
neighbors
and
talked
to
them.
One
of
the
letters
that
you
guys
got
was
from
the
neighbor
right
next
door
to
us
saying
that
he's
fine
with
the
con
access
and
he
met
with
the
rest
of
them,
and
they
were
all
on
board
with
supporting
us
having
the
conexes
there.
As
long
as
we
follow
the
laws
that
were
needed
to
follow
to
put
them
on
there
and.
A
AG
AG
AG
Correct,
yes,
we're
going
to
paint
them
in
them
and
put
trees
on
there.
So
we
just
want
to.
We
want
to
make
it
more
appealing
for
the
the
residents
there
so
they're
not
seeing
the
conexes
every
time
they
drive
by
it.
F
AG
AG
AG
Oh
to
the
oh,
no
he
he's
not
interested
in
buying
he's
actually
got
enough
land
right.
There
he's
fine
with
what
he
has.
He
has
no
interest.
We've
actually
asked
him,
but
he
he's
not
in
a
position
to
buy
it.
AG
E
AG
F
AF
AG
One
piece
of
information
I
do
want
to
add
the
reason
why
we're
not
looking
to
build
or
do
anything
is.
There
is
plans
to
build
a
road
right
through
that
property
area
where
I
think
meridian's
looking
to
do
some
changes
in
the
next
five
to
ten
years,
so
we
don't
want
to
do
anything.
That's
going
to
be
long-standing.
AG
A
AF
Chairman
Beck,
they
would
be
eligible
to
build
a
house
if
you
granted
one
or
both
of
the
variances
and
if
both
were
granted,
they
would
have
the
shipping
containers
on
their
own
too.
AF
So,
depending
on
how
our
commission,
chairman
back
in
commissioner
Davidson,
depending
on
how
large
the
shipping
containers
are,
they
would
need
to
have
a
building
permit.
That
would
mostly
be
involved
in
checking
if
they
have
proper
footing
and
are
firmly
attached
to
the
ground.
I
am
not
super
familiar
with
the
process,
but
we
do
have
a
specific
memo
to
do
with
people
using
shipping
containers
as
accessory
structures
on
our
website.
C
A
F
H
H
You
know
you
could
stipulate
that
we
approve
the
variance
and
you
need
to
get
building
permits
for
it.
I
think
that's
already
been
stated
by
the
billing
official,
but
yeah,
but
I
believe
you
could
do
that.
X
A
F
F
Okay,
so
what's
the
wish
wishes?
Well
I
I'm
inclined
to
do
it,
based
on
that,
because
they've
been
paying
property
taxes
for
40
years
on
a
piece
of
property
they
haven't
used
in
essence,
yep
this.
If
we
do
it
properly,
it
gives
them
some
use
of
the
property,
but
not
Unlimited
in
terms
of
just
whatever
so
I
I
think
if
we
put
some
qualifications
on
it,
I
think
that
would
that
that's
my
feeling,
anyway,
all.
A
Right,
so
you
want
to
make
a
motion
to
table
this
until
until
then,
until
probably
the
end
of
May,
correct,
yeah,.
A
And
then
you
want
to
put
three
sure
and
I'd
like
I,
wouldn't
support
it.
Let's
put
some
restrictions
on
it
because
they
they
said
themselves,
they
didn't
want
more
than
five
right
and
that's
what
they
already
have
and
that
they
would
work
with
the
neighbors
to
to
make
it
compatible,
build
true,
but
trees,
maybe
even
fence
around
it.
So
it's
not
a
disturbance
right.
F
C
H
H
C
F
Mine
well,
based
on
the
discussion.
My
opinion
is,
and
my
so
I
guess,
I'm
the
one
making
the
motion.
My
emotion
would
include
number
number
of
of
Storage.
F
That
that's
basically
and
the
proper
building
commits
would
have
to
be
applied
for
and
granted
is
there?
Is
there
anything
else
that
would
need
to
be.
AF
I
believe
a
discussion
of
possibly
painting
or
putting.
E
You
have
to
be
on
the
trees
or
the
the
painting,
but
painting
to
the
satisfaction
of
the
neighbor,
I
suppose
and
I.
Don't
know
if
we
wanna
specify
a
number
of
trees
or
just
leave
it
up
to
the
discretion
of
the
applicant
to
do
the
best
they
can
with
trees.
Would.
AF
A
X
AF
A
We
have
a
second
in
a
motion
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
J
D
Yes,
thank
you,
chairman
Commissioners,
and
also
I'd
like
to
give
a
big
shout
out
to
Amelia.
That
was
her
first
application
and
presentation
to
the
board.
Oh
tried
to
give
her
a
softball,
and
it
turned
out
being
a
little
more
complex.
I,
really
appreciate
all
the
conversation
and
all
of
her
hard
work.
Yeah.
F
D
All
right
so,
chairman
Commissioners,
the
item
before
you
is
a
Time
extension
for
phases.
Seven,
through
nine
of
the
preliminary
plaid
winners,
Run
subdivision
the
applicant
is
Brecken
Land
Design,
the
subject
property
is
an
18-acre
parcel
located
at
the
northwest
corner
of
Lake
Hazel
and
Maple
Grove
Road
surrounding
uses
consist
primarily
of
varying
densities
of
residential.
D
You
can
see
a
lot
of
single
family
and
so
forth
to
the
west
and
north
and
east,
as
well
as
some
higher
density
multi-family
to
the
South
and
there's
also
some
limited
commercial
uses
in
the
area
and
I
haven't
shared
my
screen.
So
let
me
do
that
real
quick,
didn't
realize.
Amelia
stop
sharing
all
right.
So
let
me
walk
you
through
those.
D
So
depicted
here
is
the
preliminary
plot
for
winners.
Run
subdivision
phases:
seven
through
nine,
are
highlighted
by
the
red
dashed
box
that
you
can
see
here.
As
you
can
see,
several
existing
roadways.
X
D
The
subject
property
that
are
currently
stubbed
so
properly
will
eventually
be
extended
through
with
future
development.
It
is
important
to
note
that
no
specific
development
is
proposed
at
this
time.
I
think
you
do
have
a
lot
of
folks
here.
Thinking
we're
talking
about
a
multi-family
project
or
something
that
extent.
This
is
not
any
specific
use
approval.
It's
just
to
extend
the
existing
entitlement
for
winners,
Run
subdivision,
so
I'll
probably
have
to
clarify
that
a
few
times
throughout
this
conversation,
but
I
just
wanted
to
start
by
highlighting
that
the
property
is
split
zoned.
D
It's
currently
a
mix
of
R6.
That's
this
brown
portion
to
the
north
of
the
site
as
well
as
C2,
which
is
the
community
commercial
and
the
majority
of
of
the
property.
D
In
terms
of
comments,
all
jurisdictions,
agencies
and
departments
didn't
provide
any
comments
of
opposition
and
only
standard
conditions
of
approval
in
terms
of
the
public.
We
did
not
receive
any
comments
specific
to
the
time
extension
prior
to
the
cutoff
for
written
testimony.
As
I
mentioned,
we
have
received
Advanced
comments
on
an
application
for
a
future
project
that
again
has
not
been
submitted.
D
So
those
are
not
comments
before
you
for
the
time
extension
that
would
be
more
appropriate
down
the
road
when
we
have
an
actual
specific
proposal
that
would
require
most
likely
change
in
zoning
development
agreement,
conditional
uses,
Master
site
plans
and
so
forth.
So
again,
none
of
those
applications
are
before
you
tonight.
We
did
receive
one
comment
after
the
cutoff
from
a
Mr,
hussy
and
I
told
him.
I
would
share
this
with
you.
D
So
the
findings
for
time
extension
are
rather
simple.
There
are
only
two:
the
first
is
that
the
application
was
submitted
in
a
timely
manner.
Unfortunately,
this
time
extension
was
not
submitted
in
a
timely
manner.
It
was
received
on
April
3rd
and
the
time
extension
expired
January
15th
of
this
year,
and
so
that
is
a
finding.
The
staff
was
unable
to
make.
Normally
these
time
extensions
are
kind
of
a
slam
dunk
here
at
public
hearing,
because
they've
they
could
meet
these
two
findings.
They
they
have
not
met
the
timely
manner
finding
for
the
second
finding.
D
The
applicants
have
submitted
reasons
that
justify
the
granting
of
the
time
extension
and
the
applicant
put
together
a
detailed
letter
with
a
lot
of
information
as
to
why
they
think
this
is
Justified
again
I'll
highlight
it
a
little
bit
but
I
think
the
applicant's
going
to
speak
to
it
in
Greater
depth.
You
know
this
has
been
an
ongoing
development
project
originally
approved
in
07,
went
away
for
a
while
came
back
in
2012
and
has
been
continually
being
built
out
over
the
years
phases.
Seven
through
nine
of
the
last
three
phases
to
be
constructed.
D
They
find
it
to
be
compliant
with
the
kind
of
Boise's
vision
for
the
area,
and
the
build
out
of
this
is
one
of
those
activity.
Centers
Maple,
Grove
and
Maple
Grove
and
Lake
Hazel
is
a
place
where
Boise
has
identified.
D
You
know
commercial
uses
residential
uses
and
higher
densities
that
sort
of
thing,
so
they
they
believe
it's
in
compliance
with
Boise's
plan
as
well,
and
then
you
know,
probably
the
biggest
thing
to
consider
is:
we've
talked
about
Boise
sewer
policy,
and
if
this
entitlement
is
not
deemed
active
by
you
anymore
via
the
time
extension
before
you,
the
sewer
for
this
goes
away,
and
so
developing
a
property
without
sewer
as
you've
been
aware.
D
D
Yes,
yeah
this
because
they
were
a
preliminary
plot
prior
to
the
Sewer
policy
and
an
active
entitlement.
Boise
honored,
those
properties
throughout
the
southwest
and
there's
only
I,
mean
I'd,
say
a
handful
there's
a
little
bit
more
than
a
handful.
But
you
know
there
are
limited
properties
in
Southwest,
Ada
County
that
are
eligible
for
sewer,
largely
because
of
that
sewer
policy
that
came
in
line
on
2000
I
think
it
was
2012
and
then
amended
again
in
16
or
17,
but
it
has
really
restricted
development
opportunity
in
the
area.
So.
D
D
It
is
important
to
note
that
there
is
a
provision
in
the
development
agreement
that
kind
of
provides
a
solution
for
how
we
might
navigate
something
like
this
and
and
the
applicant
did
highlight
this
and
we'll
probably
speak
to
it
again,
but
essentially
the
this
General
provision
section
says:
if,
if
the
owner
fails
to
comply
with
this
agreement,
they
have
90
days
after
written
notice
to
try
to
bring
the
the
project
into
compliance
with
the
development
agreement.
D
We've
discussed
this
back
and
forth,
and
so
this
time
extension
request
before
you
I
think,
is
their
effort
to
bring
this
into
compliance
with
the
original
development
agreement.
As
I
mentioned,
staff
was
unable
to
recommend
approval
because
they
can't
make
the
time
meet
the
timeliness
situation
that
I
discussed
before
and
so
as
a
result,
staff
is
recommending.
Denial.
I
have
made
a
note
at
the
bottom
that
if
you
do
opt
to
approve
the
time
extension,
it
would
be
granted
to
January
15th
of
2025.
D
So
these
time,
extensions
with
the
board
are
generally
two
years
in
length
from
the
last
approval
and
the
last
time
extension
as
I
mentioned
was
granted
to
January
15th
of
2023.
We
would
obviously
need
to
table
list
and
revise
our
findings
to
reflect
whatever
decision
you
make
on
that
front
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
F
Mike
my
question
is
in
in
the
staff
report.
It
says
the
it
was
a
part
of
the
the
problem
was
both
their
staff
and
our
staff-
yes
miscommunication
or
whatever.
So
it's
partially
County
situation
explain
what
the
county
side
was
I.
D
Think
yeah
I
mean
so
yeah.
There
was
definitely
a
kind
of
an
in
an
unfortunate
departure
of
two
key
players
associated
with
this
project.
Both
the
applicants
team
had
someone
change
positions
and
then
our
long-term
planner
Diana
Sanders,
who
had
been
here
for
15
years,
who
had
seen
at
almost
every
phase
of
winners
around
retired
right
at
the
beginning
of
January,
when
the
the
expiration
occurred.
D
I
will
note
that
it's
not
our
responsibility
to
go,
tell
people
when
their
entitlement
expires.
It
is
a
courtesy
that
we
try
to
provide
and
this
situation
due
to
the
changing
of
Staff.
We
were
unable
to
provide
that
courtesy,
and
so
it
went
unnoticed
until
I
would
say
mid
to
late
February,
and
then
this
was
the
The
Only
Solution
forward.
To
get
this
in
front
of
you,
as
the
board
is
to
request
a
Time
extension
after
the
fact.
A
Okay-
and
you
indicated
that
that
all
this
is
an
extension
of
entitlement,
if
they
do,
if
they
do
any
plots
or
anything,
they've
got
to
come
back
right,
that's
correct,
yeah
and-
and
this
has
been
an
ongoing
development
that
has
just
they
haven't,
got
around
to
this
phase
of
it
or
is
that
is
that
yeah.
D
D
during
the
Great
Recession
it
it
actually
expired
and
wasn't
renewed
and
they
came
back
I
believe
in
2012,
and
this
was
right
before
Boise's
sewer
policy
got
a
new
entitlement
from
the
county
and
began
working
on
building
out
the
rest
of
the
project.
The
last
phase
phase,
six
I
believe
was
recorded
in
2020
and
so
building
permits
have
been
issued
on
that
homes
have
been
built.
So.
D
Believe
it
is
all
residential
there's,
a
there's
like
a
playground
area
and
a
community
Clubhouse.
No
commercial
to
this
point
I
believe
has
been
constructed
in
winners
run.
Do.
D
That
was
the
vision
of
the
original
project
and
so
that
yeah,
that's
what
the
original
development
agreement
and
original
approval
kind
of
spoke
to
as
I've
mentioned,
there's
an
application
that
I
think
they've
been
through
the
neighborhood
meeting
process
that
proposes
a
lot
more
residential
on
the
site.
I'm,
not
certain,
if
there's
commercial
on
as
a
part
of
that
project,
but
that's
not
an
application
before
us
at
this
point.
So
we.
D
Correct
yeah,
so
even
a
subdivision,
well,
yeah,
I,
guess
the
plot,
the
subdivision.
They
could
certainly
plot
some
more
residential
at
the
R6,
but
any
any
of
the
commercial
stuff
would
have
to
come
through
for
at
least
Master
site
plan
approval
and
potentially
conditional
use
so
yeah
there
would
be
definitely
be
additional
staff
review.
If
not
public
hearings
attached
to
all
of
those.
D
D
A
Any
other
questions
of
our
staff.
E
Well,
you
know
when
courts
consider
whether
or
not
to
excuse
lateness,
I
think
what
they
generally
consider
is.
If
excusing
the
lateness,
would
Prejudice
any
opposing
party
or
anyone
else,
in
other
words,
harm
them.
Do
you
see
any
Prejudice
or
harm
to
any
other
parties?
D
Chairman
Mr
I'm,
going
to
try
to
thread
a
line
here
because
I'm,
certainly
not
a
legal
expert
I
think
the
build
out
of
winners
run
as
proposed
today
is
something
that
has
already
been
improved
and
entitled,
and
that's
what
you
have
before
you
have
an
existing
property
with
R6
and
Commercial
zoning
we've
made
that
approval
in
the
past.
That
entitlement
has
remained
so
I.
It's
not
like.
D
That's
a
surprise,
if
that's
what
they
move
forward
with
now,
if
they
come
forward
with
a
new
application,
again,
that's
subject
to
another
hearing
process,
I
think
that's
where
again,
you
would
give
people
the
opportunity
to
weigh
in
on
what
they
want
to
see
on
that
property,
but
simply
extending
this
really
just
kind
of
gives
them
the
opportunity
to
finish
out
a
project
that
they
started
15
years
ago.
So.
A
Okay,
hearing,
none,
there's
the
applicant
here.
Yes,.
X
P
Thank
You
Leon
appreciate
all
your
assistance
on
this
project.
I
just
have
a
short
presentation
here,
kind
of
reiterate
add
to
some
of
the
things
that
Leon
talked
about
next
slide.
Please.
P
This
is
just
a
brief
project
history
and
it
shows
a
date
line
there
and
past
time.
Extensions
takes
us
up
to
current
time
phases.
Seven,
eight
and
nine.
P
P
There
is
I
feel
a
little
bit
of
a
discrepancy
there
in
the
code
regarding
what
date
is
used
to
calculate
the
time
extension,
but
I
really
want
to
get
into
that
at
this
point
unless
Commissioners
feel
it's
necessary
next
slide,
please,
this
is
just
a
breakdown.
We
did
a
lot
of
resurrecting
of
the
history
of
this
project,
just
trying
to
figure
out
where
we
were
at
this
is.
P
P
This
is
really
probably
the
the
main
thing
I
wanted
to
add,
and
it
is
Leon
had
this
up
before,
where
it
shows
the
general
provision
out
of
the
development
agreement
and
it's
it
speaks
to
the
90
days.
Written
notice-
and
we
I
mean
we've
been
working
on
these
next
three
phases
here
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
we'd
had
been
working
well,
I've
been
working
with
Diana
Sanders
for
since
the
beginning
of
this,
and
she
was
always
extremely
helpful
in
that.
P
She
would
just
give
us
a
heads
up
when
it
was
time
for
it
to
file
paperwork
for
another
time
extension,
and
so
we
had.
We
had
been
working
under
those
assumptions
that
we
were
still
okay
and
I,
had
another
staff
member
working
on
this
and
just
worked
out
that
they
switched
jobs
and
then
Diana
retired
and
as
we
were
working
through
this
and
getting
ready
for
some
metal
at
one
point,
I
think
Leon
was
checking
those
dates
there
and
said
hey.
We
need
to.
P
We
missed
our
time
extension
and
anyway,
that
that
was
given
to
us
via
email
and
I.
Believe
we
received
that
on
March
3rd
and
then
you
know
per
the
development
agreement
there.
We
should
have
90
days
to
respond
to
that
and
even
if
you
calculated
it
from
the
January
date
and
added
90
days
to
that
by
the
time
we
filed
the
extension.
P
Or
the
application
for
extension,
we
would
still
be
under
that
90-day
time
period.
So
it's
my
opinion
that
we
are
still
in
compliance
with
that
90-day
expiration
date.
P
Next
slide,
please,
this
just
speaks
to
you
know:
we've
put
in
quite
a
bit
of
effort
in
this
project
over
the
years
and
feel
that
it
would
be
an
undue
hardship
if
we
would
lose
the
entitlement,
particularly
due
to
losing
the
sewer
connection.
Ability
talked
to
City
to
the
city
engineer
and
try
to
find
out
details
there
and
he
said
yeah.
P
If
you
lose
an
entitlement,
then
you're
gonna,
you
lose
ability
to
connect
to
sewer
unless
you
Annex
into
the
City-
and
we
are
that's
a
big
question
mark
as
to
when
we
would
be
able
to
connect
or
Annex
into
the
city
due
to
the
location,
and
it
would
really
just
be
on
the
land
would
be
undevelopable
at
this
time
until
those
things,
change
and
I.
Think
you,
gentlemen,
understand
that
probably
better
than
I
do
next
slide.
Please.
P
So
we're
hoping
that
we
can
achieve
this
time
extension
and
proceed
with
the
next
phases.
We
have
been
working
on
those
next
phases.
We've
had
a
neighborhood
meeting
looking
at
some
of
those
we've
also
actually
submitted
plans
to
achd
for
the
main
roadway
extension
Snowy
River,
but
achd
is
not
able
to
review
those
plans
due
to
this
current
condition.
P
F
Ahead,
so
staff
indicated
that
this
extension
would
be
ran
until
2025.
that's
two
years
away.
So
does
that
give
you
enough
time
I
mean?
Obviously
you
want
it,
but.
P
A
Okay,
I,
don't
have
any
questions,
so
thank
you
and
you'll
be
able
to
do
a
rebuttal
at
the
end
of
the
testimony.
Thank
you.
Okay.
We
have
a
number
of
people
that
have
signed
in
signed
up
to
speak
on
this
I'll
start
with
Carlos
vidalis.
A
If
you
could
come
up
the
front,
Todd
Tiffany,
Robert,
boss
and
Mark
cetus
I'll
speed
us.
C
AI
Good
evening,
thank
you
very
much.
Mr
chairman
commissioner
Davidson,
commissioner
Daley.
My
name
is
Carlos
vidalis
I
live
at
10963,
West,
oleana,
Drive
I'm
about
a
mile
and
a
quarter
from
this
location.
It's
a
walking
distance
for
me
and
I
must
admit
that
I
am
ambivalent
about
this
request,
ambivalent,
because
well,
the
issues
was
sore
plain
and
simple.
Issues
to
her.
Boise
city
has
South
Ada
County
over
the
barrel
regarding
issues
of
sewer
and
it's
a
precious
resource
that
we
shouldn't
lose.
AI
However,
yeah,
please
next
one
the
next
slide,
please
this
is
the
land
we're
talking
about
yeah.
This
is
the
way
that
is
subdivided.
AI
It
turns
out
that
this
is
a
designated
Community
Center
in
Southwest
voice
at
accounting.
It's
the
only
one
or
two,
the
other
one
is
close
to
my
home.
You
know
much
closer
to
my
house
a
mile
to
the
West
out
here
and
it
used
to
be.
If
you
go
to
the
next
one,
please
it
used
to
be
all
commercial.
Essentially,
developers
are
whittling
down
the
land,
getting
rid
of
all
commercial
land
and
building
residences
in
there.
AI
I,
don't
have
a
problem
with
residences,
but
I
have
a
problem
with
people
using
commercially
designated
land
for
residences.
Now
they
say
that
they
want
simply
want
the
extension
because
they
want
to
have
the
to
honor
the
agreement
that
was
reached
before
that
it
was
a
Zone
to
residential
and
Commercial.
Like
the
previous
slide,
however,
I
would
like
to
point
out
please.
The
next
slide
is
that
they
have
a
already
had
a
neighborhood
meeting
that
I
attended
and
they
said
that
they
want
to
build
230
apartments
on
six
duplexes
in
there.
AI
So
you
know
they
are
asking
that
you
under
the
agreement
are
6
C2
and
they
are
don't
intend
to
keep
it.
They
want
to
change
it.
Okay.
This
is
the
right
to
do
it,
but
there's
absolutely
zero
businesses
in
the
area.
There's
a
storage
place
at
the
corner
to
the
to
the
land,
but
this
is
a.
This
will
cease
to
be
a
community
center
if
they
build
apartments
in
there.
Can
you
please
have
the
last
slide.
AI
This
is
what
they
propose,
that
they,
what
they
say,
they're
planning
to
do
at
that
neighborhood
meeting.
Essentially,
that
will
destroy
the
community
center.
There
is
no
R6
homes
in
there
there's
no
commercial
anymore.
We
sell
apartments
and
duplexes
again.
This
is
I,
don't
have
a
problem
with
residences,
but
this
is
going
to
be
at
the
expense
of
commercial
land
and
we
will
never
be
able
to
have
businesses
in
there
if
they
lose
the
sewer,
I'm,
pretty
sure
they
can
still
put
commercial
in
there.
AI
D
E
You
for
the
record,
I
personally
know
Mr
the
Dallas,
so.
F
AI
A
That's
right:
okay,
Todd
Tiffany,.
A
Is
Todd
here
no
Robert
bout,
Bose.
M
Yes,
Robert
Bowles,
5935,
South
Arctic
way.
Thank
you
Commissioners
for
accepting
my
comments
this
evening.
I
am
a
resident
in
this
area
in
the
vicinity
of
this
project
and
I
would
first
like
to
point
out
that
an
extension
has
already
been
granted
for
this
property
on
October
18th
2021,
and
this
extension
was
not
used
to
do
anything
with
this
property.
It's
it's
not
been.
M
Another
extension
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
this
request
is
more
than
10
weeks
late,
10
weeks
and
the
the
architect
and
the
developer
have
have
listed
a
number
of
reasons
on
why
this
this
extension
was
late
and,
as
was
mentioned
in
the
previous
presentation,
they
would
like
to
lay
this
at
the
foot
of
a
County
employee,
but
I
would
point
out
it's
not
the
County
Employee's
responsibility
to
make
sure
that
developers
are
meeting
their
deadlines.
I,
don't
feel
that
this
is
a
viable
reason
for
for
granting
another
extension
on
this
property.
M
The
developer
and
The
Architects
also
sent
out
a
letter
to
Residents
in
this
area,
listing
reasons
on
why
nothing
had
been
done
with
this
property
and
one
of
those
reasons
that
they
listed
was
the
covid
pandemic.
They
said
they
were
unable
to
do
anything
with
this
property
because
of
the
coveted
pandemic
again
I,
don't
feel
this
is
a
viable
reason
at
all.
M
Other
developers
were
were
developing
and
during
the
covid
pandemic,
other
parts
of
our
own
subdivision
and
Winter's
run
were
being
developed
during
the
time
of
this
pandemic
and,
furthermore,
that
extension
granted
in
2021
was
issued
during
the
height
of
the
pandemic,
and
still
nothing
was
done
and
to
Grant
a
new
extension.
Now,
while
blaming
it
on
covid
I
feel
is,
is
a
scapegoat.
It's
not
a
viable
reason
for
granting
another
extension
and
again
as
as
a
previous
commenter
mentioned,
this
is
being
presented
as
they
just
want
to
finish.
M
M
Finally,
I
would
like
to
point
out
the
the
staff
have
recommended
a
denial
of
this
extension.
I.
Don't
feel
that
the
arguments
have
been
made,
the
the
justify
an
extension
in
this
project
I
feel
it's
been
mismanaged.
I,
don't
feel
it's
been
done
reasonably
well
and
I
feel
granting
this
extension
would
be.
Con
would
be
considered
granting
special
treatment
to
this
developer,
and
this
architect
and
I
would
like
to
respectfully
ask
the
commission
to
deny
this
request.
Thank
you.
M
When
the
cat,
or
when
the
city
annexes
the
land,
they
could
be
built
that
way,
but
as
it
is
now,
they
wish
to
completely
redraw
the
plat
and
and
I
feel
that
they're
just
stalling
for
time
so
that
they
can
submit
those
new
proposals.
M
E
M
I
feel
it
would
be
a
harm
to
the
neighborhood,
because
it's
been
a
continually
mismanaged
project.
There's
been
numerous
extensions.
Numerous
changes
of
plans,
numerous
different
proposals
made
I,
feel
it's
just
an
endless
project
that
just
is
completely
keeping
the
Neighbors
on
edge
about
what
is
being
done
with
this
property.
F
M
I
haven't
I,
I
would
admit,
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
experience
with
the
city
of
Boise.
As
far
as
zoning
and
development
issues
are
concerned.
At
that
point,
I
would
again
attend
to
their
meetings
and
insist
that
the
original
plat
design
is
what
is
carried
out.
A
We
have
Leroy
Soren
Blaine.
AJ
Good
evening
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Mark
Cedar
9125
West
Europe
drive
I'm
in
Phase,
five
of
winters
run
sub.
The
south
side
of
our
house
looks
over
the
proposed
development.
AJ
I
I
wanted
to
Simply
say
that
I
am
vehemently
opposed
to
granting
the
extension
requested
by
reckon
in
jail.
That's
all
I
wanted
to
say.
C
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right
is
it
Leroy.
AH
I'm
Blaine:
okay,
thanks
for
hearing
me
out,
Blaine
Patterson,
9137,
West,
Europe,
Drive,
Mark's,
neighbor,
Back
Fence
pushes
the
thing
so
I
had
I
mean
Carlos
kind
of
summarized.
What
my
concerns
were.
The
one
thing
imagine
I'll
come
up
in
the
rebuttal
or
something
the
plan
that
was
shared
at
the
community
meeting
had
driveways
that
had
you
know,
was
covered
by
trees
and
stuff.
So
there's
a
lot
of
traffic
stuff
that
isn't
being
addressed
in
that
and
I'm.
E
AH
Traffic
yeah
I
mean
I,
so
when
I
overlook,
I
overlook
like
Hazel
and
Charter
Point
and
like
this
morning
it
was
backed
up
from
Maple
Grove,
all
the
way
past
Charter,
Point
and
and
putting
Snowy
River
down
to
Lake
Hazel
somebody
trying
to
take
a
left
out
of
there
together,
they're
never
going
to
get
out
of
there.
It's
gonna
be
a
traffic
nightmare.
E
A
AE
Hey
I'm
Dinesh
I
live
at
914
West
Hill
Drive,
I'm,
Blaine's
neighbor.
My
backyard
faces
the
the
property
in
question
now
I'm
here
to
oppose
the
extension,
and
one
of
the
arguments
was
one
of
the
staff
members,
retired
and
I.
Don't
I,
don't
see
that
as
a
excusable
reason,
because
when
it's
tax
time
I
don't
get
a
reminder,
it's
on
me
to
remember
the
tax
date
and
ensure
that
I
pay
the
taxes
on
time.
So
it's
on
individuals
to
follow
the
timelines.
AE
AE
Irs
did
not
even
give
us
an
extension
for
for
2022
for
2023
tax
date
right
all
of
us
paid
taxes
on
April
18th
last
two
years
there
was
a
coveted
concern,
so
everyone
got
a
one
month
extension,
but
this
year,
kovit
did
not
exist.
So
citing
covet
as
an
excuse
is
not
a
valid
reason
for
me.
So
I'm
here
to
oppose
it
and,
as
I
mentioned
I'm
I'm
directly
impacted
by
the
the
land
in
the
question
that
that's
that's
all
I
want
to
say.
AE
If
you
have
any
questions,
I
can
I.
Don't
any
questions.
A
A
AK
Thanks
for
staying
late,
I,
don't
know
how
late
these
usually
go
but
appreciate
it.
Renee
Burton,
Pugh,
9304,
West,
stripp,
Drive
I
oppose
the
approval
of
this
request
for
a
number
of
reasons,
first
and
foremost,
I
realize.
Let
me
just
say
I
realize
clearly
that
this
is
only
about
an
extension.
AK
It's
not
about
the
future
plans,
but
we
don't
want
to
pretend,
like
their
future
plans,
are
going
to
be
the
current
plans
they
have
approved
with
the
county
right
now,
we've
seen
evidence
they've
shown
us
at
meetings
what
their
plan
is
and
it's
to
be
high
density
housing
in
that
area
and
and
some
commercial
a
little
bit
of
commercial.
AK
So
I'm
opposed
for
that.
Just
for
that
one
reason,
but
another
reason
is
the
excuses.
I
again,
just
like
the
others,
I
don't
buy
them
covet
is
no
longer
an
excuse.
People
change
jobs
all
the
time,
there's
a
responsibility
to
make
sure
that
those
people's
jobs
are
covered
and
taken
care
of.
So
that's
not
an
excuse
either.
AK
Lastly,
I
I'm,
a
teacher
and
so
turning
things
in
on
time
is
very
important
to
me.
It
helps
teach
kids
responsibility
at
a
young
age
to
make
sure
that
they
are
being
accountable
for
the
work
that
they're
supposed
to
do.
AK
I
feel
like
it's
unfortunate
that
this
person
was
not
responsible
or
this
company
was
not
responsible
and
they
did
not
get
their
assignments
turned
in
on
time,
but
they
they
did
it
so
I
feel
like
laws,
deadlines,
rules
and
standards
are
in
place
for
reasons
I
also
umpired
and
coached
baseball
and
softball
for
a
while
in
this
County
and
I
will
say
that
if
teams
don't
show
up
on
time,
they
forfeit
I've
had
to
be
on
the
side
of
a
forfeiting
team
when,
when
my
players
didn't
show
up
and
I
also
had
to
be
umpires
that
granted
forfeits,
unfortunately,
this
10-week
late
application,
in
my
mind,
is
a
forfeit.
AK
A
Renee,
which
district
do
you
teach
in.
A
AK
AK
AL
My
name
is
Savannah
Hayes
I
live
at
5940,
South
Seabreeze
way,
I
actually
am
on
the
corner
of
Winter's
run
and
Harrington
Glenn,
and
look
over
into
the
proposed
area.
AL
I
bought
this
house
in
2018
and
overlooked
from
my
bedroom
window
corn
fields,
which
I
knew
were
unrealistic.
They
would
soon
go
away,
and
now
there
are
lovely
Apartments
staring
at
me
out
my
window
and
the
zoning
we
always
knew
was
going
to
be
commercial.
So
your
hopes
of
something
awesome
coming
in
that
contributes
to
Services
restaurants.
Entertainment
is
always
in
the
hopes
also
if
it
went
residential.
AL
That
would
be
fine,
too,
but
the
letters
to
the
county
have
been
stating
that
this
is
an
ongoing
project
and
with
the
original
zoning,
which
is
incorrect,
the
letters
that
have
been
sent
to
us
the
people
that
actually
did
receive
them,
not
everybody,
has
has
presented
a
completely
different
plan
out.
AL
My
bedroom
window
also
I,
don't
feel
as
though
they
have
any
intentions
with
the
papers
that
they
have
set,
nor
the
meetings
that
they've
had
to
actually
go
with
the
phases
that
they
have
even
sent
us,
which
sometimes
can
even
be
hard
to
see,
which
is
deceiving
for
this,
and
many
of
the
reasons
already
stated.
I
would
just
plead
to
not
grant
them.
This
extension.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right,
Lori
Wilder,
Nick,
Nettles
and
Nick
Barnes.
AM
Name
is
Lori:
Wilder
I
live
at
8615
was
falling
star
Street
I
live
at
the
northeast
corner
of
Lake
Hazel
and
Maple
Grove,
so
Maple
Grove
separates
feelers
Glen
from
Winter's
run,
I've
been
living
there
for
20
years,
there's
so
much
traffic
now
I
have
to
my
backyard
faces
like
hazel.
So
at
times,
especially
during
rush
hour.
AM
AM
AN
Good
evening,
I'm
here
to
ask
the
commission
to
follow
the
recommendation
of
staff
and
deny
any
extension
of
time
for
this
parcel.
An
exception
of
time
is
allowed
for
code.
We
saw
earlier
8-7-6-b
and
calls
for
two
criteria
to
be
met,
the
first
being
a
timely
application.
AN
Brecken
filed
an
application
76
days
after
it
was
expired
in
my
line
of
work
and
probably
every
other
person
out
here's
line
of
work
if
you
file
something
or
turn
in
a
report
76
days
after
the
fact,
there
is
no
one,
that's
going
to
believe
or
buy
that
that's
Timely
I'm,
not
sure.
In
the
code
I
heard,
commissioner
Davidson
speak
that
people
had
to
show
undue
harm.
If
this
was
granted,
I
wasn't
aware
that
we
would
have
to
show
cause
or
harm
if
this
is
granted,
but
I'll
continue
on.
AN
The
second
second
criteria
needs
to
be
met.
Is
the
applicant
has
provided
sufficient
reasons,
the
first
one
being
that
their
employee
left?
That's
not
a
sufficient
reason,
along
with
that,
an
Ada,
County,
employee,
quit
or
retired.
That's
not
a
reason.
Taxpayers
do
not
expect
Ada
County
development
services
to
hold
a
developer's
hand.
AN
The
third
reason,
let's
see
here,
excuse
me
without
this
extension
of
time
the
land
will
remain
vacant,
as
Beck
Brecken
said.
That
is
untrue.
AN
Commercial
can
still
be
developed
with
septic
there
at
the
corner
of
Lake
Hazel
and
Five
Mile,
there's
going
to
be
commercial
developed
with
septic,
so
the
fact
that
they
State
the
the
land
will
remain
undeveloped
as
untrue
J.O
has
not
done
anything
with
this
land.
For
the
last
12
years,
it's
been
zoned,
as
you
saw
earlier,
with
R6
the
top
portion
and
C2
at
the
bottom.
Jo
last
listed
this
property
for
sale
early
2010s.
AN
One
through
six
sell
all
the
homes
which
they
have
I
believe
two
more
homes
to
sell,
and
then
they're
going
to
walk
right
in
here
and
request
a
rezone
to
take
away
some
of
the
C2
move
it
to
R20
and
move
the
R6
to
higher
zoning
so
that
they
can
shove
apartments
in
there
also
another
reason
that
Brecken
says
that
you
guys
should
Grant
an
extension
of
time
is
that
there's
been
18
months
of
coordination
going
on
and
a
simple
clerical
error
or
oversight
should
not
undo
that
work.
AN
What
Brecken
failed
to
mention
is
that,
while
this
was
on
the
cusp
of
expiring,
they
were
having
a
neighborhood
meeting
on
January
30th
to
go
over
their
proposed
plans.
Brecken
took
their
eye
off.
The
ball
started,
putting
a
plan
together
to
read
Zone
phases,
seven
through
nine,
and
they
dropped
the
ball
and
now
they're
here
asking
for
you
to
pick
up
the
pieces
and
I'm
asking
you
follow
the
criteria
that
are
met
and
you
do
not
allow
a
Time
extension.
Thank.
AO
Good
evening,
thank
you
guys
for
staying
late
and
for
taking
our
comments.
I
just
would
like
to
call
our
attention
to
the
code,
as
some
of
the
previous
commenters
have
brought
up
8.7
or
876.
AO
AO
Secondly,
I'd
like
to
highlight
some
of
the
reasons
that
Jo
and
Brecken
have
presented
to
you
as
their
reasoning
for
requesting
an
extension
first
of
all
covid.
They
said
that
the
work
was
delayed
on
phases,
seven
through
nine
from
the
start
of
covid.
Let's
call
it
early
March
of
2020,
through
current
29
homes
in
Winter's
run,
have
been
completed
and
sold
with
another
two
that
are
currently
listed
for
a
total
of
31
Homes
Construction
has
been
ongoing.
Development
has
been
ongoing.
AO
AO
In
addition,
on
their
letter,
they've
stated
things
like
they've
been
coordinating
with
County
agencies
for
the
past
18
months.
Construction
and
construction
documents
and
final
plot
for
phase
seven
are
nearly
complete.
The
development
aligns
with
projected
growth
and
anticipate
growth.
That's
anticipated
in
the
area.
First
of
all,
if
they've
been
able
to
conduct
a
business
over
the
last
18
months
and
speak
with
County
on
business
related
matters
and
developmental
related
matters,
then
they
should
have
gone
there
requested
in
a
timely
fashion.
Does
that
give
me
any
undue
harm?
No,
it
doesn't.
AO
Will
the
development
align
with
the
projected
growth
in
in
the
area?
I
personally,
don't
believe.
So
again.
That
is
not
a
matter
of
that's
before
you,
gentlemen
and
ladies
this
evening,
but
ultimately
we
do
know
what
it
is
that
they
plan
to
do.
They
do
plan
to,
as
previously
mentioned,
convert
some
of
the
very
little
existing
commercial
land.
That's
in
Southwest,
State
Boise
into
high
density
housing,
so
I
would
recommend,
as
the
staff
did,
that
you
deny
their
application
to
extend
or
if
you
do
to
decide
to
extend.
AO
C
A
AP
A
A
Right
this
is
you
have
three
minutes
and
I'm
Rod
Beck
I'm,
chairman
of
the
commission
and
you're
in
front
of
the
Ada
County
Commission
on
this
application.
If
you'd
like
to
State
your
opinion,
you're
welcome.
AP
Awesome,
thank
you
I'm,
here
to
to
request
a
commission
and
everyone
here
in
the
team
to
deny
this
request
to
jail.
I
do
not
want
to
repeat
everything
that
everyone
else
has
said:
the
reason
being
covered
and
whatnot
I
disagree
with
the
reason
given
by
Joe
all
the
reasons
they
have
given,
because
the
main
reason
that
I
found
quite
funny
was
covered.
They
I
purchased
home
from
them
during
covet
that
did
not
stop
them
from
doing
business.
AP
They
sold
house,
for
you,
know
over
a
million
dollars
in
the
same
community
that
I
purchased
on
housing
and
now
they're
planning
and
building
a
three
to
four
story:
apartments
right
behind
my
home,
which
was
not
something
that
they
had
initially
noted
to
us.
When
we
purchased
the
property
there,
we
had
clearly
asked
them.
What
is
the
plan
for
the
property
behind?
We
were
told
that
it's
a
commercial
property-
and
you
know
based
on
that
and
of
course,
I'm
quite
familiar
with
some
of
the
laws
as
well.
AP
Is
that
if
this
get,
if
this
doesn't
get
denied
we'll
be
back
here
again
and
we
all
will
be
speaking
against
the
plan,
they
have,
you
know
set
up
to
build
on
that
property,
so
undue
harm
would
be
that
I'll
be
wasting
everyone
else's
time
here,
and
you
know
we'll
be
doing
this
over
and
over
again.
So
that's
that's
my
question.
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
A
AQ
Speak
to
you,
my
name
is
Joseph
Medlin
I
live
at
9146,
West
Stirrup
Drive,
it's
phase
five.
All
my
neighbors
have
testified
this
evening.
My
concern
is
this:
I'm
I'm
with
Carlos
the
original
speaker-
I'm
ambivalent
about
it,
because
it
is
a
resource,
and
we
would
like
to
see
that
area
developed
that
we'd
like
to
see
it
developed
as
it's
currently
zoned,
because
we
need
commercial
in
that
area.
It's
a
community
center.
We
need
that.
We
don't
need
what's
being
planned
and
we
know
what's
being
planned
because
he
told
us
you've
been
told.
AQ
What
I
see
here
is
the
problem
is
that
clearly
haven't
met
the
standard
of
timely
application
and
now
we're
relying
upon
hey.
We
have
to
have
a
90-day
notice
from
the
county.
Well,
what's
the
extent
of
that
a
year
and
a
half
from
now,
if
this
was
discovered,
could
they
say:
hey
we
didn't
get
our
90
days
notice.
It's
been
two
years
whatever
we
can
need
to
you
know.
Legally,
we
can
do
this.
What's
the
limit
and
what's
fair
and
like
the
last
speaker
that
was
standing
in
here
speaking,
is
there
a
middle
ground?
AQ
Can
we
get
an
approval
but
with
condition
and
say:
hey
we'd
like
to
have
that
developed
and
if
it
means
that
having
that
sewer
access
makes
it
more
attractive
to
commercial
property
to
come
in
versus
septic,
can
we
get
the
approval,
with
the
condition
that
it's
not
to
be
rezoned,
it's
being
developed,
as
it
stated
for
a
period
of
time,
five
years,
ten
years,
whatever?
That
is,
if
conditions
change
and
they
don't
develop,
they
can't
get
commercial
properties
in
there
and
it
gets
annexed
or
whatever
great.
AQ
They
simply
mismanage
this
project
and
they're
asking
us
to
forgive
that,
but
at
the
same
time
we
know
that
they're
going
to
come
and
say
now
we
want
to
change
the
rules,
change
the
game,
160
people
that
have
already
bought
in
there.
We
want
to
betray
your
trust
of
what
we
said.
We
were
going
to
do
with
that
and
go
fight
us
and
hopefully
you'll
you'll
come
out.
However,
you
want
to
come
out,
so
I
would
ask
that
we
meet
Middle
Ground.
If
we
can't
get
Middle
Ground
I
would
ask
that
to
be
denied.
AQ
A
K
AR
Thank
you
for
the
stand
light,
but
I
do
not
believe
that
the
Builder,
what
they're
representing
to
us
that
I
agree
with
all
the
other
speakers
that
said
that
the
people
that
came
forward
and
said
that
this
90
days,
this
time
frame
you
need
they're
set
for
a
stanza
standards,
are
set
for
a
reason
and
you
you
are
should
be
held
to
that
to
abide
by
those
standards
and
I'm.
AR
Looking
at
the
slides
where
it
said,
welfare,
health,
safety
of
the
community,
I
am
afraid
that
if
this
extension
is
granted
that
we
will
be
subject
to
unhealthy
traffic
flows,
safety
in
our
community
there's
a
lot
of
children
in
our
area.
AR
And
if
you
go,
if
you
go
down,
see
to
Sea
Breeze
from
Stirrup
Drive
and
you
make
a
left,
there's
children
all
over
the
place
there
and
the
traffic
volume
is
going
to
be
extremely
heavy
and
the
flow
in
that
in
the
plot
that
they're
the
the
traffic
flow
in
that
plot
that
they're
proposing
doesn't
it.
AR
It
makes
it
that
there's
only
three
exits
out
of
that
area
and
it's
in
it's
frightening
to
me
to
consid
to
think
about
what
would
happen
if
this
extension
is
granted
and
we've
been
told
things
by
the
company
and
representatives
of
the
company
and
then
only
to
find
out
that
it
was,
we
were
not
told
the
truth,
it
wasn't
factual
and
I.
Please,
please
I
I
I
would
really
appreciate
it
if
you
would
deny
their
request.
For
extension.
AR
C
AS
These
guys
have
cited
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
reasons
why
they
missed
their
deadlines,
but
rules
and
regulations
are
in
place
and
I
think
the
time
is
ripe
to
set
a
precedence
that
we
need
to
meet
our
timelines
and
we
need
to
follow
our
rules
and
so
I'm
recommending
that
the
commission
deny
this
request
for
extension.
Thank
you.
A
G
Thai
9416
West
Avalanche
Drive,
which
is
just
about
a
block
in
from
West
startup
I,
agree
with
everybody
here,
I
think
it
should
be
denied
I
appreciate
some
of
the
accommodations
that
I've
heard
being
the
first
time
in
one
of
these
at
these
one
of
these
committees.
For
some
of
these
individual
families,
that
may
not
have
understood
the
rules
or
things
had
been
done
on
their
properties
without
them
knowing.
G
But
this
is
a
professional
Corporation
and
they
laid
out
three
unjustified
reasons:
covid
out
the
door
with
that
one
throwing
the
County
under
the
bus
and
basically
saying
that
they
mismanaged
it
and
that
should
justify
it.
So
I
agree
with
potential
harm
with
the
children
and
the
amount
of
traffic
that
will
come
through
the
subdivision
itself.
But
again,
that's
a
that's
a
different
argument:
I
just
don't
think
mismanagement
by
a
professional
Corporation
falls
under
the
justification
criteria.
AT
Good
evening
my
name
is
Amber:
Jordan
I
live
at
9741,
West,
Cedar,
Park
Street,
just
down
the
road
from
this
development
and
I'm,
a
person
who
believes
in
flexibility
but
I
think
there's
a
difference
between
an
oversight
and
negligence
and
I
think
that
76
days
is
bordering
on
negligence
and
just
not
not
paying
attention
to
your
business.
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
add
is
that
my
husband's
a
business
owner
in
Ada
County
and
he's
required
to
meet
his
deadlines
for
permitting
processes
all
of
those
things.
AT
And
finally,
we
work
with
an
accountant,
that's
outside
of
Idaho
and
for
reasons
outside
of
our
control.
Our
taxes
were
sent
to
us
late
this
year
for
filing
by
one
day,
and
that's
not
the
federal
government's
fault.
I
could
blame
you.
Sps
I
could
blame
our
accountant.
We
are
still
responsible
for
the
penalties
period.
K
You
Scott
signer
5859,
South,
Arctic,
Way
Boise,
you
know,
I
I
have
to
I,
don't
know
what
else
I
can
say
that
everybody
else
hasn't
said,
but
I
I'm
100
in
not
allowing
this
to
continue
with
their
their
their
decision
on
asking
for
the
approval,
but
I
would
say
that
what's
hard
to
hear
from
from
beckon
is
that
they
did
show
us
what
their
proposal
is
and
then
when
they
come
up
and
say
tonight,
then
they'll
bring
that
up.
K
K
C
A
Okay
twice
we're:
would
you
like
to
give
a
rebuttal?
You
get
five
minutes.
P
I
would
agree
with
these
folks
that
we
should
stick
with
the
verbiage,
that's
in
the
development
agreement,
which
is
what
we're
part
of
what
we're
being
held
to
which
allows
90
days
from
the
expiration
of
the
time
extension.
P
Some
of
the
other
items
that
were
brought
up
are
certainly
concerned,
such
as
traffic
traffic
impact
study
will
be
performed
as
our
development
of
these
future
phases,
we've
talked
to
echd
about
it.
Achd
has
plans
for
roundabout
in
the
intersection
of
Lake,
Hazel
and
Maple
Grove,
and
it's
it
will
be
challenging
to
develop
these
sites
for
commercial
and
other
uses.
P
It
was
made
clear
at
the
neighborhood
meeting
that
the
neighbors
were
not
happy
with
the
proposed
plan
for
two
of
those
phases,
and
we
acknowledge
that
and
look
forward
to
working
with
them
for
a
solution.
That'll
be
amicable
to
all.
P
Consider
it
a
an
undue
hardship
if
we
did
lose
the
entitlement
just
due
to
the
situation
with
the
the
sewer
connection,
and
without
that
sewer
connection,
it
would
not
allow
for
development
of
the
property
in
any
short
term.
F
I
have
a
question
the
they
they
raised,
the
issue
that
on
January
30th,
you
gave
a
different
presentation
to
the
to
the
community
about
what
you
planned
to
do
with
the
property.
Is
that
true.
P
We
presented
a
plan
for
two
of
the
phases:
there's
there's
five
there's
five
acres
at
the
intersection
for
commercial
and
then
there's
the
other
two
phases
which
is
currently
zoned
as
are
residential
as
well
as
commercial.
The
developer
wanted
to
explore
some
other
options.
There
we
talked
to
City
staff
about
what
they'd
like
to
see
at
that
location.
They
would
prefer
some
sort
of
a
mixed
use.
P
We
also
worked
with
a
county
staff
to
put
together
what
we
thought
might
be
a
solution
to
that
and
we
held
that
neighborhood
meeting
presenting
that
option
which
the
neighbors
are
not
in
favor
of,
as
you
heard
tonight,.
P
Our
plan
at
this
point,
if
we
can
continue
with
the
entitlement,
will
be
to
rework
that
that
latest
plan
to
come
up
with
some
kind
of
solution
that
will
be
acceptable
to
everyone.
I
expect
we'll
need
to
have
probably
a
couple
more
neighborhood
meetings
to
work
through
that,
as
well
as
working
with
staff
and
city
of
Boise.
D
That
chair,
mcmissions,
yes,
I,
mean
the
what
we're
talking
about
after
the
extension
is
all
subject
to
a
new
application
process
correct
and
if
there's
a
substantial
change
in
what
was
presented
to
the
neighborhood.
At
that
neighborhood
meeting,
we
would
recommend
highly
that
the
applicant
come
back
for
another
neighborhood
meeting
with
them
to
share
their
updated
proposal,
but.
D
Yeah
chairman,
yes
yeah.
If
there's
changing
you
know,
currently
we
don't
allow
residential
and
Commercial
districts,
so
that
certainly
wouldn't
necessitate
a
change
in
Zoning
for
the
property,
there
would
be
an
update
to
the
development
agreement.
Those
are
some
minimum
things
that
would
have
to
occur
and
then
it
would
be
drilling
down
to
conditional
uses
in
master
site
plan
approvals
and
different
things
like
that.
A
Isn't
part
of
the
the
property
already
zoned
for
the
residential,
the
R6
residential
chairman.
D
Correct
if
they
developed
an
R6
project,
what
they
have
proposed
to
the
neighborhood
wouldn't
fit
within
the
R6
zoning.
At
this
point,
because
it's.
D
Correct,
although
I
think
there
were
duplex
and
again,
a
staff
has
not
reviewed
an
application,
so
I'm
speaking
about
what
I've
heard
about
in
a
neighborhood
meeting
and
I.
Think
Diana
did
have
some
conversations
with
the
applicant
team
prior
to
her
retirement
about
you
know
what
would
need
to
occur.
Some
process
there
and
there
were
some
duplexes
I,
think
that
might
actually
work
in
the
R6.
So
there
might
not
need
to
be
a
change
for
zoning
in
a
proportion
of
that,
but.
A
D
A
Believe
so.
A
Apologize
yeah,
we're
we're,
have
you
have
you
taken
all
the
the
the
evidence
that
you
need
any
any?
Do
you
need
to
add
anything
to
the
record
chairman.
P
A
There
any
questions
with
the
from
the
applicant
okay.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
on
application,
2018.
A
Land
Design
and
it's
in
front
of
this,
this
board
for
for
decision.
What's
the
recommendation
of
the
board.
F
A
A
We
can,
we
would
have
to
we'd,
have
to
table
it
anyway
for
for
for
adjustment,
of
the
recommendations
for
the
the
findings
of
facts
and
conclusions,
so
we'd
have
to
grab
tablet
anyway,.
E
F
I,
don't
think
so,
having
discussed
it
with
having
discussed
it
with
the
legal
or
their
lawyer,
all
right
make
a
motion
so
I
move.
We
table
it.
Let's.
D
A
Go
to
May
30th
and
without
any
any
additional
information
from
staff
or
from
or
from
the
public
will
accept
close
that
right
off
for
the
record
and
we'll
simply
get
a
legal
question
answered
that
is
before
before
us.
I
think
it
is
important
if
we
have
a
legal
question
that
we
get
that
clarified.
A
I
think
our
lawyer
is
nodding,
her
head,
yeah,
okay,
so
we'll
get
that
clarified
and
then
we'll
we'll
have
a
decision.
Some
sort
of
a
decision
on
the
on
the
on
the
30th
of
May
is
that
what's.
F
Until
May
30th,
yes,
so
I
move
that
we
table
it
until
May
30th,
pending
receiving
legal
advice.
A
E
I,
don't
really
have
discussions
specifically
related
to
the
legal
question.
I
was
ready
to
proceed
with
the
with
the
evidence,
I
heard
I
would
just
say
as
we
go
forward,
maybe
a
word
of
caution
to
the
developer,
as
as
commissioner
Beck
alluded
to,
we
had
a
a
very
similar
case
before
us.
E
Certainly,
we
express
no
opinion
on
any
applications
that
we
have
not
seen,
but
getting
a
bit
of
Deja
Vu
from
a
previous
case,
where
a
developer
sought
to
change
the
zoning
from
commercial
to
residential
and
so
I
would
certainly
encourage
Brecken
to
maybe
watch
the
the
hearing
on
YouTube
The
Neighbors
showing
up
tonight.
E
If
that's
any
indication
there
may
be
some
dark
storm
clouds
accumulating
over
Brecken
so
and-
and
there
were
some
of
the
same
people
at
that
hearing
that
were
in
the
room
tonight
again,
it
expressed
absolutely
no
opinion
on
any
proposals
we
haven't
seen
yet,
but
that
was
a
proposal
that
was
turned
down
and
it
was
one
of
the
rare
proposals
turned
down
by
this
board.
E
A
AE
A
Of
the
motion
say:
I
I
I
motion
carries.
Is
there
any
foreign
business
to
be
brought
before
this?
This
Commission
Aaron.