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A
2022-
and
this
is
the
time
and
place
for
the
Ada,
County,
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission
meeting-
we
extend
our
welcome
to
those
who
are
here
in
person
as
well
as
to
those
who
are
joining
us
online.
We
will
Begin
by
a
roll
call
of
the
Commissioners
and
we
excuse
our
chairperson,
Brenda
blitzman,
who
had
a
pre-planned
absent
commissioner
Coulson.
B
A
Any
person
wishing
to
testify
should
have
signed
up
online.
If
you
did
not
sign
up
online
or
here
in
the
room,
we
asked
to
use
the
sign
up
sheet
in
the
back
of
the
room.
If
you
are
online
and
you
haven't
signed
up,
you
can
still
use
the
public
hearing.
Testimony
registration
form
found
on
the
Ada
County
development
services,
public
hearing
information,
page
chairperson,
will
open
the
public
hearing
for
applications,
and
each
applicant
will
have
each
application
will
be
considered
separately.
A
Pursuant
to
the
following
process,
the
planning
staff
will
present
the
application
in
the
form
of
a
staff
report
which
includes
conditions
of
approval.
The
Commissioners
may
ask
questions
to
the
staff
to
clarify
their
understanding
of
the
application.
The
applicant
will
then
be
given
the
opportunity
to
present
their
proposal
and
respond
to
questions
from
the
Commissioners.
Testimony
will
be
taken
in
regard
to
the
application
and
general
comments
pertaining
the
application
will
be
heard
by
persons
wishing
to
speak
limited
to
three
minutes
for
each
speaker.
A
Persons
giving
testimony
will
be
called
to
the
podium
and
should
begin
by
clearly
stating
their
name
and
address
for
the
record.
When
public
testimony
is
concluded,
the
applicant
will
be
given
an
opportunity
for
rebuttal
and
summation
of
their
testimony.
The
staff
may
provide
clarification
on
the
information
given
and
answer
additional
questions
from
the
Commissioners.
Then,
once
the
public
testimony
is
concluded
and
the
public
hearing
is
closed,
the
Commissioners
will
discuss
the
application,
motions
will
be
made
and
the
Commissioners
will
vote
on
the
motion
regarding
the
application.
C
A
D
Table
two:
the
November
10th
2022
planning
zoning
meeting.
C
A
You,
commissioner,
Exton
all
in
favor
of
that
please
say:
aye
aye
aye
unanimous,
so
it
has
been
tabled
to
November
10
2022.
Next.
Item
on
the
agenda
is
two:
zero:
zero:
six:
zero,
zero,
zero,
seven
one
dash
z,
c
Dash,
D,
a
dash
M
and
202201-253
MSP.
That
is
the
peg
company's
application.
These
are
revised
findings
that
have
been
made
and
Leon
is
Wigan.
Hair
presentation
related
to
the
revised
findings,
yeah.
E
Chairman
commissioner,
no
presentation
on
this
one
just
a
copy
of
those
findings
reflecting
the
decision
you
made
at
the
last
hearing.
If
you
would
like
to
discuss
how
those
findings
were
revised.
Obviously
it's
to
reflect
your
recommendation
of
denial
for
that
project,
but
I'll
stand
for
any
questions,
and
also
this
was
Connor's
project
and
I'm
filling
in
for
him,
so
I'll
make
my
way
through
it
as
best
I
can.
If
you
have
particular
questions.
Thank.
E
D
A
D
A
E
Yes,
thank
you,
chairman
Commissioners.
The
item
before
you
is
the
preliminary
plot
for
a
five
lot
subdivision.
The
Optimist,
Russ,
hewn
Miller
with
buy
right,
LLC
accepted
property,
is
a
29.92
acre,
parcel
zoned
rut.
It's
located
at
the
northeast
corner
of
Victory
and
McDermott
Road
surrounding
uses
include
single-family
homes
and
large
properties
in
agricultural
production,
notably
south
of
Victory
Road
is
a
similar
project
recently
approved
for
a
five
lot
or
five
acre
subdivisions
and
I'll
get
into
the
details
of
that
a
little
bit
later,
as
I
explained
this
project.
E
So
as
previously
mentioned,
this
is
a
preliminary
plant
for
a
five
lot
residential
subdivision
all
proposed
Lots
meet
the
dimensional
standards
of
the
rut,
district
and
we'll
take
access
from
South
elevation
place,
which
is
a
public
and
local
roadway.
Lot
2
has
been
approved
to
take
direct
access
to
West,
Victory,
Road
and
Lot
2.
Is
this
most
southern
proposed
lot
for
the
project.
E
So
the
subjective
property
was
originally
plotted
as
a
dedicated
open
space
lot
for
Alta,
View
subdivision
in
2008,
and
so
highlighted
here
in
red.
Is
that
open
space
lot
is
plotted
in
that
subdivision.
So
as
why
I
brought
up
the
project
at
the
south
on
Victory
Road,
you've
seen
a
similar
type
of
request
in
the
calla
lily
subdivision
on
the
south
side
of
Victory,
where
previously
dedicated
open
space
is
being
now
subdivided
based
on
terms
met
with
the
plaid
and
or
a
vacation
of
a
plot
note,
which
will
be
before
the
board.
E
So
along
those
lines,
there
is
a
platinum
vacation
request
which
is
solely
the
purview
of
the
board,
but
it
kind
of
helps
to
explain
how
we're
getting
here
for
you,
which
is
making
a
recommendation
on
the
plenary
plot,
but
on
the
Alta
View
subdivision.
There's
a
platinum
that
says
lot.
9
block
1,
which
is
the
subject.
Property,
is
a
dedicated,
open
space
area
and
shall
be
restricted
from
development
until
both
the
following
conditions
have
been
met.
E
So
the
project
or
the
subject
properties
receive
development
approval
and
approval
for
a
zoning
ordinance
map
to
a
a
commercial
or
industrial
district
is
what
that
should
say
or
B
a
residential
rural
District
that
allows
a
minimum
lot
size
of
less
than
or
equal
to
five
acres.
So
we
have
that
rut.
Zoning
in
place,
which
is
the
five
acre
minimum
that
is
needed
to
comply
with
this
and
then
Urban
services
are
available
to
the
proposed
development.
So
that's
the
vacation
portion
that
our
board
has
to
consider.
E
This
is
not
connecting
to
Municipal
services
but
utilizing
individual
well
and
septics,
similar
to
that
cow,
Lily
subdivision
that
you
saw
before
you
a
few
months
before
so
again.
The
vacation
is
the
purview
of
the
board.
You'll
just
be
making
a
recommendation
on
the
preliminary
plot
in
terms
of
agency
comments,
comprehensive
planning
finds
the
project
to
be,
in
conformance
with
the
adopted
land
use
map
of
the
city
of
Meridian,
which
is
per
our
Title
IX
agreement
with
them
the
adopted
conference
plan
and
play
in
the
area.
E
The
Meridian
fire
department
is
recommending
that
residents
built
be
built
with
fire
sprinklers.
As
there's
a
lack
of
water
sources
in
the
area
which
again
we've
seen
with
similar
types
of
projects,
they're
also
requiring
some
improvements
to
South
elevation
place
of
note,
there
had
been
a
comment
from
Meridian
fire
that
a
island
in
the
middle
of
the
turnaround
be
removed
to
make
that
an
adequate
turnaround
area
they've
since
backed
off
of
removing
that
existing
Island
and
allowing
it
to
stay
and
I
just
wanted
to.
E
Let
you
know
that
I
think
you'll
hear
more
from
the
applicant
on
that
one
as
well:
Essential
Health
standard
conditions,
just
a
Land
Development
application,
a
fee
for
lot
test
tools
and
full
engineering
report
for
all
of
the
septics
to
be
included
for
the
project.
It
accounted
building
officials
just
going
to
require
permits
for
those
single-family
homes,
which
is
standard,
Ada,
County,
engineer
typical
comments.
E
There's
only
one
thing:
that's
a
little
unique
there
is
the
existing
septic
drainage
facility
for
all
of
you
subdivision.
If
we
go
back
to
the
plat
might
be
a
little
hard
to
see
here,
but
you
can
kind
of
see
this
area
here.
So
this
is
the
drain
field
for
the
existing
subdivision.
That's
on
the
east
side
of
South
elevation
place.
Our
engineer
is
requesting
would
that
be
separated
out
into
a
separate
lot
versus
plotted
as
an
easement
within
these
other
lots
and
I'll
allow
the
applicant
to
respond
to
that.
E
But,
unlike
how
early
subdivision
we're
not
looking
at
any
joint
use
of
that
drainage
facility
are
the
things
that
you
kind
of
work
through
on
that
last
development
I
keep
bringing
it
up
only
because
it
was
right
across
the
street
I'm
sure
it's
pretty
familiar
to
a
lot
of
you
that
were
here
last
few
months
and
then
finally,
Napa
Meridian.
Irrigation
is
just
going
to
require
protection
of
all
private,
laterals
and
waste
ways
and
as
well
as
a
land
use
change
application.
E
G
E
D
Mr
Vice
chair,
thank
you,
Mr
Vice,
chair
Mr
lesson
so
that,
on
that
existing
septic
field
they're
just
going
to
make
it
easier
for
it,
indeed
the
land
over
it.
So
it's
they're
actually
going
to
move
the
septic
field.
They're
just
gonna.
E
Yeah
chairman,
commissioner
Brookstone:
that's
what
I
believe
to
be
the
case.
Again.
All
of
you
allow
the
applicant
to
better
clarify
that,
but
there's
no,
what
I,
anticipate
or
no,
what
I
understand
is
no
change
to
that
drain
field.
The
only
thing
our
engineer
is
asking
is:
make
it
its
own
lot
versus
I,
guess
encumber
those
other
Lots
with
an
Eastman.
So.
H
This
was
one
of
the
projects
that
got
kind
of
caught
up
in
the
recession,
so
he
bought
it
in
a
for
foreclosure
situation,
it
was
a
non-farm
development
with
an
existing
public
Street
and
individual
Wells
and
a
community
septic
system.
H
My
client
did
have
his
attorney.
Try
to
vacate
that
note
that
indicated
that
the
75
percent
open
space
is
part
of
the
original
non-farm
development
would
be
able
to
have
like
a
building
permit.
They
did
go
before
the
County
Commissioners.
The
county
commissioner,
said
on
the
county
attorney
that
they
didn't
feel.
That
was
an
appropriate
action
without
a
preliminary
plot,
so
their
findings
instructed
my
client
to
submit
a
preliminary
plot
and
then
submit
as
a
con
as
a
consecutive
application.
H
The
vacation
of
that
note
so,
what's
before
you
tonight,
is
the
preliminary
plant
for
five
five
acre
lots.
Three
common
Lots
we've
had
two
neighborhood
meetings
with
the
existing
residents
that
are
on
the
one
acre
lots.
H
H
Secondly,
they
asked
that
there's
some
Landscaping
along
the
arterial
there
at
the
entrance
and
they
asked
that
we
deed
them
that
Landscaping
lot
so
it'd
be
under
their
HOA.
We
agreed
to
that.
They
also
asked
that
we
would
adopt
the
same
ccnrs
that
govern
their
homes
because
they
are
kind
of
estate
homes,
a
lot
of
architectural
features.
We
agreed
that
that
the
architectural
standards,
the
ccnrs,
will
all
be
applicable
to
these
five
Lots.
H
So,
as
staff
indicated,
this
is
a
resub
division
of
lot
9
block
1
within
Alta,
View
subdivision
one
of
the
things
that
was,
if
you
have
them,
and
there
you
have
it
one
of
the
things
that
was
that
they
did
was
a
community
septic
system
was
designed
along
the
west
side
of
Alta,
View,
Place
and
or
wait
elevation
place,
I'm
sorry
and
there's
an
easement
that
protects
that
I
read
through
the
Central
District
Health
reports
and
conditions,
and
it
stated
that
you
may
grasp
the
area,
but
one
you
cannot
have
a
driveway
go
over
it
and
no
trees
or
shrubs
can
be
planted
in
that
area.
H
So
what
we
show
today
is
an
easement
that
clearly
delineates
that
that
area
can
only
be
grass
and
that
it
has
to
remain
a
community
septic
system.
The
five
proposed
lots
that
we
have
will
not
utilize
that
Community
system,
but
will
have
their
own
individual
septic
systems
and
their
own
individual
Wells.
H
One
of
the
reasons
that
we
have
the
common
drives,
as
you
see
there,
there's
a
common
drive
there
on
what
we
call
lot,
four,
that
just
kind
of
Loops
down
to
lot
three.
So
there
will
be
no
driveway
lot.
3
has
its
250
feet
of
Frontage
on
elevation
place,
but
it
will
have
a
cross
access
over
lot.
Three
now
lot:
two,
which
is
at
the
entrance.
H
There
is
an
existing
landscape
Island
that
we
did
not
want
to
disturb
because
because
South
elevation
place
is
an
achd
local
Street
and
it
seemed
like
we
didn't
want
to
encumber
Olive
lot,
3's
Frontage
with
a
cross
access
to
lot
2.,
so
we
proposed
there's
an
existing
driveway
that
was
utilized
by
a
home.
That
was
on
the
property
for
many
years.
The
driveway
is
still
there.
It's
just
used
for
AG
purposes,
so
we
showed
a
driveway
to
Victory.
H
Road
achd
staff
said
that
that
was
not
consistent
with
the
policy
manual,
because
Victory
is
designated
as
a
minor
arterial,
so
they
ask
that
we
go
before
their
commission
and
get
the
commission
to
rule
upon
that.
Driveway.
H
The
achd
commission
evaluated
that
driveway
and
said
that
they
basically
went
against
their
own
staff
and
said
since
one
it
was
a
historical
driveway
to
one
residence
and
it
is
still
present
there
and
that
eventually
it
would
be
a
and
they
would
rule
it
a
what
they
call
a
temporary
driveway
so
that
it
would
be
eliminated
when
sewer
becomes
available
to
this
area.
This
property
is
within
the
Meridian
area
of
City
Impact.
H
Then
it
could
take
that
Community
system
offline
and
it
would
go
with
gravity
into
Meridian
Central
sewer
at
that
point
in
time,
with
the
condition
read
from
achd
is
the
driveway
to
Victory
will
be
closed
and
eliminated
and
Lot
2
will
then
take
access
internally
from
South
elevation
place.
The
commission
supported
it.
H
I
believe
one
commissioner
voted,
nay,
the
rest
that
were
supportive
of
it,
saying
that
you
know
obviously
there's
a
situation
where
we
can't
have
a
driveway
come
across
I,
don't
want
to
put
the
community
septic
system
in
a
separate
lot,
as
requested
by
the
city
engineer,
because
it's
an
interim
system
until
Central
sewer
becomes
available.
Secondly,
your
Ada
County
code
states
that
each
lot
she'll
take
front
take
access
off
of
its
Frontage.
If
I
put
a
common
lot
there,
then
that
cuts
my
Frontage
off
of
elevation
place
so
lot.
H
As
staff
indicated
you're.
Seeing
Redevelopment
of
these
75
percent
open
space
slots
to
the
south
in
the
Lily
Creek
subdivision.
This
area
is
kind
of
rural
in
nature.
Meridian's
comprehensive
plan
has
it
designated
like
very
low
density
with
a
cap
of
three
dwelling
units
per
acre
when
Central
Services
are
available
more
coming
in
obviously
substantially
less
density
than
is
allowed
due
to
the
fact
that
we
do
not
have
utilities,
I
did
work
with
Joe
bonjourno
over
at
Meridian
fire.
H
The
reason
that
cul-de-sac
does
not
meet
current
international
fire
code
is
at
the
time
it
was
designed
and
built.
It
met
fire
code,
but
now
where
they
require
a
48
foot
radius
for
the
fire
trucks.
The
island
encumbers
that
so
my
suggestion
initially
he's
said:
remove
the
island.
Well,
I
I
really
don't
want
to
upset
the
neighbors
by
doing
that,
because
it
has
mature
trees,
it
looks
nice.
You
know
you
don't
have
the
Sea
of
asphalt
that
we
typically
see
in
a
cul-de-sac.
So
my
suggestion
is
that
public
Street
has
a
concrete
ribbon.
H
Curb
that's
two
feet
wide.
We
add
another
three
feet
of
ribbon,
curb
which
will
be
vehicle
rated
and
then
Joe
said.
If
you
do
that,
that's
acceptable
and
he
did
send
me
an
email
which
I
forwarded
to
your
staff,
saying
that
that
was
an
acceptable
alternative
to
removing
the
island.
So
I
think
we've
read
through
the
staff
report.
H
I
think
you
know
we're
we're.
We
are
in
agreement
with
the
staff
conditions.
I
don't
want
to
make
that
a
separate
lot
because
I,
don't
think
that's
a
good
idea,
then
that's
something
that
at
some
point
in
time
somebody's
gonna
have
to
clean
up
plus,
like
I
said
it
violates
the
ordinance
where
you
must
take
access
where
your
street
Frontage
is.
I
So
when
the
city
services
actually
get
there,
what
happens
if
one
of
these
homeowners
here
decides?
They
don't
want
city
services
and
they
want
to
continue
on
the
well
on
the
on
the
drain
field
in
their
own
septic
system.
H
I
had
a
situation
like
that
out
at
Meridian
Heights,
where
they
had
a
community
septic
system
at
Victory
and
Meridian
Road,
and
how,
when
my
client
was
bringing
sewer
South
on
Victory
and
was
going
to
take
offline,
their
Community
septic
system
and
what
we
ended
up
doing
was
we
had
a
vote
and
under
I
guess
the
state
law
and
their
codes?
H
We
had
a
boat
and
if
we
got
a
majority
of
the
lots
that
agreed
to
connect
to
Meridian
sewer
than
we
were,
we
we
took
that
they
were
lagoons
that
were
done
in
the
70s
which
no
longer
met
any
compliance.
As
far
as
DEQ
is
concerned,
and-
and
so
then
we
ended
up
connecting
them
to
Central
sewer
and
then
they
did
pay
to
connect
to
Central
water.
H
My
client
paid
for
them
to
connect
to
Central
sewer
that
particular
client
because
they're
what
they
had
two
Community
Wells
that
had
high
arsenic
levels,
so
they
were
no
longer
in
compliance
either.
So
you
know
those
Services
as
they
move
Southward.
We
work
with
the
residents.
The
city
works
with
the
residents,
obviously
to
connect
to
Central
sewer.
H
It'd
be
a
hookup
fee,
it
would
be
a
standard,
Meridian
sewer,
hookup
fee.
Now
they
all
have
wells,
so
they
they
could
keep
their
Wells.
There
would
be
no
need
for
them
to
have
Central
water
connections.
They
could,
if
they
so
choose
but
we'd
end
up
when
Central
water
comes
having
hydrants
and
one
of
the
conditions
of
Meridian
fire
is
that
these
homes
have
to
be
sprinkled
due
to
the
fact
that
Central
water
and
the
nearest
hydrant
is
a
few
miles
away
to
the
north.
So.
H
Did
talk,
I
did
talk
to
the
neighbors
when,
when
we
had
our
neighborhood
meeting
that
eventually
that
would
go
offline,
they
obviously
you
know
those
are
pretty
expensive
homes
that
are
in
there
and
they
said
yeah,
you
know
getting
rid
of.
That
would
be
a
good
idea.
You
know
we
at
some
point
in
time.
You
know
there
will
be
they
they
have
to
maintain
it.
E
Would
like
to
add
yeah
chairman
commissioner
I,
think
some
of
the
applicants
requests
regarding
the
separate
lot
for
septic-
that's
stuff
that
can
continue
to
be
explored
with
the
County
engineer
prior
to
bringing
this
to
the
board,
and
you
know,
ultimately,
it's
the
board's
decision
to
require
that
or
not
and
so
I
think
there's
some
additional
conversation
that
can
happen
around
that
particular
topic
and
then
for
the
fire
turnaround
yeah.
We
would
accept
basically
the
updated
comments
from
Meridian
fire
that
that
new
design
for
the
turnaround
would
work
for
us.
E
A
Any
questions
for
Mr
lutzen,
so
Mr
letson.
If
the
application
is
approved,
then
we're
approving
it.
It's
basically
we're
recommending
it
to
the
board
of
County
Commissioners
for
approval,
and
we
can
approve
it
without
getting
into
any
detail
relating
to
the
separate
subdivision
for
that
particular
lot
where
the
sewer
is
located
and.
E
Chairman,
that's
correct,
I
mean
you
could
recommend
with
a
condition
that
be
separated
out
and
ultimately
the
board
could
accept
or
not
accept
the
condition
that
you
recommend.
So
at
this
point,
that's
that's
your
call.
If
you
would
like
to
do
that
for
me,
I
think,
there's
I
again
I'm
not
going
to
recommend
what
you
guys
do,
but
I
think
there's
additional
conversation
between
the
County
engineer
and
the
applicant
that
can
occur.
That
I'm
sure
we're
going
to
talk
about
this
again
at
the
board
meeting.
E
A
H
A
Understood,
thank
you,
so
we
now
will
close
the
public
portion
public
testimony
portion
of
this
meeting
with
respect
to
this
project
and
open
the
floor
up
to
the
Commissioners.
We
would
like
to
see
a
recommendation
one
way
or
the
other
with
respect
to
this
project,
after
which
we
can
discuss
the
project.
K
D
A
C
I
think
the
application
you
know
as
both
Leon
and
the
representative
for
the
applicant
displayed.
This
is
a
very
standard
process.
It
seems
very
straightforward.
You
know
the
fact
that
similar
projects
are
happening
in
this
area
of
the
county
also
makes
sense
that
this
one
is.
You
know
near
that
other
project
and
I
do
think
that
those
conversations
regarding
the
septic
can
obviously
happen
prior
to
the
board
of
County
Commissioners
meeting.
You
know,
since
that
pretty
much
has
to
happen
prior
to
receive
going
to
the
board
anyway.
Thank.
A
A
E
Chairman,
commissioner,
so
the
appellant
for
that
project,
which,
as
you
have
seen,
noted
on
the
agenda,
the
board
has
remanded
this
back
for
you
to
consider
additional
information.
Since
the
last
time
you
had
that
application
in
front
of
you,
the
appellant
is
requested
the
table
specifically
to
allow
the
third
party
consultant
hired
by
the
county,
to
review
additional
information
provided
by
the
original
applicant
and
to
provide
an
updated
memo
on
the
project.
Staff
is
in
support
of
that,
as
we've
heard,
that
request
from
multiple
folks
on
the
appellant
side.
E
A
L
Thank
you,
Mr
Vice,
chair
members
of
the
commission,
Josh
Leonard
251
East
Front,
here
in
Boise,
that's
Suite,
310.,
based
on
the
notices
that
the
the
county
emailed
to
people
who
had
signed
up
to
testify
on
our
on
our
application
or
on
the
appeal
of
our
application.
L
We
worry
that
if
you
don't
table
tonight
that
it
could
impair
the
due
process,
rights
of
the
opponents
of
our
application,
because
the
the
notice
that
went
out
made
it
seem
like
this-
it
had
already
been
tabled
or
would
be
tabled
to
November
10th
so,
but
but
with
that
said,
we
do
object
to
the
the
request
to
table
our
application
was
filed
originally
back
on
October
25th
2021,
we're
I
think
we're
353
days
into
this.
L
This
commission
approved
our
application
back
on
March
10th,
and
then
it
was
appealed
and
since
then,
we've
been
in
I,
don't
know
it's
kind
of
a
Purgatory.
It's
a
procedural
Purgatory
where
we've
just
been
spun
and
spun
and
spun
back
and
forth
between
the
board
hearing
dates.
L
One
of
the
things
I'd
like
to
note
is
that
the
request
to
to
table
our
application
came
yesterday.
They've
had
a
month
to
request
that
the
County's
consultant
review
the
data
that
we
presented
at
the
September
14th
hearing
and
they
waited
until
the
the
day
before.
That's
not
the
first
time
that
they've
delayed
on
things
I'll
give
you
a
couple
of
quick
examples.
The
first
I'll
give
you
is
that
on
the
3rd
of
October,
it
was
their
responsibility
to
post
this
site
with
notice
on
October
3rd.
We
noticed
that
they
hadn't
hosted
it.
L
So
we
went
and
spent
600
to
get
it
posted
to
ensure
that
it
would
stay
on
tonight's
hearing
agenda.
That's
not
the
first
time
even
that
they've
failed
to
post
a
site
on
June
1st,
the
first
board
hearing.
They
failed
to
post
notice
of
that
hearing,
which
resulted
in
a
delay
of
six
weeks,
all
told
there's
about
about
five
months
of
delays
about
four
months
of
delays
that
are
attributable
to
the
appellants,
taking
their
time
and
and
delaying
their
their
actions.
L
In
this
matter,
it's
become
apparent
to
us
that
their
strategy
is
delayed,
delayed
delay,
and
this
is
just
another
example
of
that
one
other
thing
I'd
note:
we
have
people
that
came
in
from
out
of
town
for
tonight's
hearing
if
two
folks
that
flew
in
to
testify
today,
with
the
with
only
one
day
notice,
they
weren't
able
to
cancel
that
and
and
reschedule
and
tabling
tonight's
hearing,
is
actually
aside
from
the
concern
about
the
due
process,
rights
of
our
opponents,
which
is
a
valid
concern.
L
It's
not
necessary
to
table
tonight's
hearing
to
allow
the
County's
consultant
to
review
our
data.
It's
not
a
closed
record,
and
this
here
this
matter
is
going
back
to
the
board.
There
will
be
a
month
between
today's
date
and
the
date
that
the
board
gets
it,
that
the
County's
consultant
could
review
that
data
and
and
proceed
with
that.
I'd
stand
for
any
questions.
A
E
Chairman
the
request
the
table
came
from
the
appellant,
so
not
the
county.
Okay
and
the
nature
of
the
request
was
to
allow
the
third
party
consultant
hired
earlier
to
review
additional
information.
We
heard
that
request
from
multiple
parties
associated
with
the
appellant
side
and
ultimately
have
decided
to
undertake
establishing
a
new
contract
with
that
third
party
consultant
to
have
them
review
that
additional
information,
so
that
you'll
have
their
thoughts
on
the
additional
information
provided
after
their
initial
memo.
E
So
I
would
say
that
the
county
is
a
supportive
tabling
I,
do
respect
the
applicants,
concerns
about
timing
and
delays
and
schedule,
and
certainly
this
one's
been
dragging
on
for
quite
a
while,
as
everyone
in
this
room
is
aware.
But
ultimately
it
was
the
request
of
the
appellant
table.
It
was
not
the
County's
request
to
table
I'm.
A
C
Mr
letson
prior
to
making
any
motions
of
thoughts.
Okay,
procedurally,
with
this
tabling,
is
there
any
issues
with
in
this
motion
of
us
tabling
that
we
also
add
on
a
statement
that
we
will
be
reviewing
this
out
of
this
meeting
and
will
not
be
tabled
again
by
this
body?
Is
that
something
we're
allowed
to
do,
and
then
also
is
there
any
concerns?
If
we
add
that
on
to
that
motion,.
E
And
chairman
commissioner
I
feel
like
we're
entering
legal
territory
which
I'm,
certainly
not
a
lawyer,
I
think
you
can
address
that
in
your
deliberation.
Okay,
I
wouldn't
make
it
a
part
of
your
motion
personally,
but
I
think
you
could
certainly
discuss
that
after
you
have
a
motion
and
a
second
okay.
M
D
C
C
One
thing
I
would
like
to
see
is
after
November
10th
meeting
I
would
like
to
see
us
come
to
a
resolution,
regardless
of,
if
that's
an
approval
or
a
denial
I'd
like
to
see
you
know
the
ball,
to
continue
to
roll.
You
know,
I,
do
completely
sympathize
with
the
applicant
that
this
has
been
a
very
long
process.
C
C
I
I
would
definitely
agree
with
that
as
well.
I
don't
want
to
drag
on
the
process
any
farther
than
it
has
to
be
I
think
I
mean
I,
know
I'm,
not
no
lawyer
or
anything
else
either,
but
it
it
would.
You
know,
out
of
fairness
to
the
client
it
and
the
applicant
I
think.
However,
we
can
strongly
to
where
we
can
come
to
an
agreement
at
the
next
hearing
to
not
slow
this
up
anymore.
C
Also,
but
it's
true
one
other
thing:
I
would
strongly
encourage
the
people
who
did
come
here
for
tonight's
hearing
for
this
item
with
the
intent
to
testify
to
get
their
testimony
into
the
record
prior
to
the
November
10th
meeting
you
know
and
they
can
meet
with
staff
on
the
best
way
to
do
that,
depending
on
what
their
testimony
would
be,
whether
it's
a
PowerPoint
letter,
all
nine
yards.
D
We
did
make
a
decision
on
this.
I
didn't
can't
believe
it
was
back
in
March,
but
so
it
doesn't
seem
that
long
ago,
but
we
really
don't
have
a
lot
of
control.
If
it's
Kickback
to
us,
we
it
comes
back,
we
take
it
and
look
at
it
again.
Unfortunately,
that's
how
it
works.
A
All
right
so
I
believe
we're
prepared
to
vote
on
the
motion
to
table
this
to
the
November
10th
meeting,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye,
aye
and
I
also
say
aye.
So
it's
unanimous
and
I
would
like
to
add
to
what
the
Commissioners
have
said
that
the
minute
should
reflect
that
the
applicant
came
prepared
and
objected
to
tabling
this
so
emphasizing
that
at
the
next
meeting
that
it
be
heard.
Thank
you
very
much.
N
Chairman,
yes,
I
will
be
I
would
like
to
let
you
know
that
this
is
my
last
hearing,
I
will
be
retiring,
but
I
have
enjoyed
working
with
all
of
you
and
you
do
a
great
job.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
all
the
work
you
do
so
this
project
is.
N
N
N
The
transmission
line
will
connect
Idaho
power's
Beaumont,
Station
South
of
Nampa
and
the
Hubbard
station,
which
is
south
of
Boise
it
will.
The
project
will
accommodate
the
additional
line.
They
will
install
approximately
200
new
taller
single
power
or
single
pulp
steel
structures
to
support
both
lines.
The
proposed
project
would
be
constructed
mostly
within
Idaho
power's
existing
private
easements,
but
new
easements
may
be
required.
N
N
Chairman
commissioner
Exton,
you
can
direct
us
to
make
that
change
and
sign
those
findings
will
automatically
make
that
change
perfect.
Thank
you.
A
N
Would
actually
start
that
I
believe
it's
in
2023.
23.,
okay,
this
summer,
okay,
thank.
O
Thank
you
Vice,
chair
and
Commissioners.
My
name
is
Jeff
afuccio
with
Idaho
Power
addresses
1221
West,
Idaho,
Street,
Boise,
Idaho,
83702
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
about
this
tonight.
Go
to
the
next
slide.
Please
a
couple
objectives
of
this,
so
we
are
we're
looking
to
rebuild
an
existing
transmission
line
spin
service
for
a
long
time.
O
Looking
to
you
know,
update
that
16
Mile
Stretch
from
a
large
station
we
have
south
of
Nampa
to
an
existing
large
station.
We
have
on
Cloverdale
for
Commissioners
that
were
here
a
few
years
ago.
We
did
a
similar
project
where
we
went
from
Cloverdale
and
Franklin
Road
South
to
this
Hubbard
station.
So
we're
we're
continuing
to
I
guess,
connect
the
dots
or
piece
our
system
together
to
serve
the
Treasure
Valley.
O
So,
as
part
of
that
is,
you
know,
we
look
to
minimize
impacts
surrounding
properties
and
and
by
doing
so,
we're
trying
to
reuse
existing
transmission
line
routes
or
corridors,
not
establishing
new
corridors
with
new
impacts
to
additional
landowners.
And
finally,
this
line
will
provide.
You
know
for
again,
like
I,
said
the
provided
for
the
increase
in
demand
for
electricity
in
this
growing
area.
Next
slide,
so
here
we
have
a
a
map
of
our
higher
voltage
transmission
system.
The
red
is
a
500
kilovolt
line,
just
it's
like
a
major
backbone.
O
It
goes
from
East
Idaho
to
a
station
near
Shoshone
Idaho
to
this
Hemingway
station
and
on
into
Oregon
the
the
the
teal
or
light
blue
or
our
230
kilo
or
sorry
138
kilovolt
lines,
as
you
can
see,
those
are
serving
throughout
the
valley
and
those
typically
serve
our
local
substations
that
provide
Power
to
all
our
customers.
O
For
example,
there's
one
right
behind
the
courthouse
here
and
then
the
orange
are
230
kilovolt
lines
and
those
those
provide
a
you
know
they
step
down
from
the
500,
but
they
still
provide
a
bulk
electricity
that
then
gets
stepped
down
further
to
those
138
lines.
So
you
could
imagine
it's
like
a
like
an
interstate
state
highway
and
then
local
Road
system
right
starting
big
to
small.
So,
as
you
can
see
between
so
Hemingway
to
Beaumont,
we've
got
230
Hubbard
to
Cloverdale,
we've
got
230
and
you
can
see
between
Beaumont
Hubbard.
O
We
we
lack
that
230
to
connect
our
system,
so
we
can
have
some
robust
resiliency
next
slide,
please
so
just
a
graphic.
You
know
just
to
show
that
we
want
to
carry
both
both
line
Types
on
the
same
sets
of
poles
next
slide-
and
this
is
a
little
more
zoomed
in
as
Ms
Sanders
stated.
We
do
you
know,
depending
on
which
way
you
want
to
look
west
east
to
west.
We
want
to
start
in
Ada
County
first,
because
we
are
1A.
O
We
can
do
that,
but
we
do
start
on
Cloverdale,
north
of
north
of
deer,
Flat,
Road
and
heading
straight
South
for
two
miles.
We
already
have
a
double
circuit
transmission
line
on
the
east
side
to
about
kuna,
Road,
and
so
we'll
have
to
have
this
230
line
on
its
own
set
of
structures
and
I'll
show
you
a
rendering
here
in
a
minute.
So
that's
for
that
two
miles
and
then,
after
that,
this
line
continues
on
on
the
double
circuit
or
two
sets
of
lines
on
the
single
poles.
O
O
You
know,
minimize
or
mitigate
avoid
any
outages
as
we
work
on
the
construction
of
this
line,
and
then
we
and
then
we
come
into
Canyon
County
and
on
into
the
Beaumont
Station
next
slide,
please
so
here's
some
before
and
afters,
where
we
are
Formosa
line
right
for
the
the
East-West
part
and
the
the
part
of
Cloverdale
up
until
we
get
to
Cuna
road.
So
we
have
existing
single
single
circuit
transmission
on
the
left,
and
then
we
have
the
proposed
double
circuit,
230
138
on
the
right.
O
O
These
poles
are
about
120
feet
with
the
same
exist,
same
600
foot
spacing
pole
to
pole,
so
they
are
a
bit
taller,
that's
to
meet
all
our
necessary
electrical
clearance
requirements
and
then
on
the
next
Slide.
The
next
rendering
is.
O
It
is
the
area
between
kuna
Road
along
sorry,
going
up
Cloverdale
Road
between
kuna
road
to
that
Hubbard
station,
just
north
of
deer
flat,
and
as
you
can
see,
we
already
have
some
existing
double
circuit,
138
transmission
line
serving
that
the
areas
so
that
the
230
will
have
to
kick
over
to
the
west
side
of
Cloverdale,
Road
I
know
there's
been
concern
about.
O
You
know
how
do
we
have
two
transmission
lines
and
don't
impact
future
Road
products
or
future
needs
along
Cloverdale
Road
as
part
of
that
as
a
part
of
obtaining
easements
and
utilizing
our
existing
easements
we've
been
working
with
achd
to
make
sure
that
we're
outside
of
their
future
Road
with
needs
and
and
speaking
of
easements.
We
do
we're
able
to
utilize
a
lot
of
existing
easements
BLM
permits
for
going
through
their
areas,
but
we'll
also
be
working.
We're
currently
working
to
obtain
new
easements
where
necessary.
O
Next
slide,
please,
and
so
with
related
to
construction.
I
covered
a
couple
of
these,
but
we're
again
we're
trying
to
mostly
construct
an
existing
easements
where
we
don't
have
those
we'll
obtain
new
easements
and
compensation
and
working
with
landowners
where
those
new
polls
will
go.
And
then
we
do
expect
to
build
this
in
three
phases.
Over
three
construction
Seasons.
O
However,
we
we
could
shorten
that
down
to
two
and
again
working
with
achd
and
coordination
of
any
future
products
they
may
have
going
on,
especially
on
Cloverdale
Road,
which
has
been
you
know,
open
and
closed
multiple
times
over
the
past
couple
years,
due
to
just
so
many
projects
going
on
in
that
area
and
then
finally,
you
know
we'll
and
related
to
that.
You
know
we'll
work
to
minimize
mitigate
or
use
traffic
control
where
possible
and
to
make
sure
we're.
You
know,
have
a
as
small
footprint
as
possible
when
we're
constructing
this
line.
O
Next
slide,
please
and
finally,
I
want
to
cover
our
public
Outreach.
We
had
two
public
meetings
covering
for
Ada
County's
requirements
noticing
folks
a
thousand
feet
on
the
other
side
of
the
line
and
Ada
and
Canyon
County,
and
then
we
had
an
additional
meeting
because
we'll
we
go
through
parts
of
kuna
city
limits
on
Cloverdale
Road,
so
we
had
a
second
meeting
to
meet
their
requirements.
We
had
10
people
in
total
those
meetings.
We
did
not
receive
any
formal
comments,
but
we
did
hear
concerns
about
construction,
related
traffic
impacts
and
I.
O
Think
one
more
slide,
maybe
two,
and
so
just
and
part
of
that
Outreach
was
you
know
how
this
product
will
provide
a
benefit
to
our
customers
over
the
long
term,
provide
an
additional
connection
to
bring
energy
in
from
new
and
existing
resources
that
we're
we're
trying
to
move
through
the
area
next
slide
and
then
just
quick.
You
know,
Idaho
Power
believes
this
is
in
compliance
with
the
conditional
use,
permit
application
criteria,
the
master
site
plan
criteria
is
Staff
noted.
O
The
only
other
standard
valuation
is
that
we'll
comply
with
8-4a-20,
which
has
to
do
with
grounding
of
any
any
new
facilities
that
are
within
100
feet
of
the
transmission
line.
Any
metal
facilities
and
then
finally,
next
slide
as
Ms
Sanders
stated,
we
would
appreciate
consideration
to
change
the
findings
from
a
two-year
construction
period
to
a
four-year
16
miles
is
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
transmission
line
to
try
to
be
done
or
complete.
Sorry,
thank
you.
I
stand
for
any
questions.
Thank.
A
You
very
much
any
questions
from
the
commissioners
a
couple
questions
and
so
there's
more
curiosity
than
anything
else.
So
the
lines
will
go
West
from
Swan
Falls
up
Cuna
Cave
Road
once
they
hit
Robinson,
then
you're
into
going
where
the
existing
power
lines
are
going
up.
The
hill
and
over
to
South
Side,
correct.
A
Okay,
yeah
and
a
few
years
ago
there
was
some
controversy
about
a
Idaho
power
line
going
from
Hemingway
on
over
through
Birds
of
Prey
area,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
controversy
about
that
on.
The
first
slide
that
was
shown
here.
The
red
line
that
goes
from
Hemingway
to
the
South
is:
is
that
how
that
ended
up
getting
resolved
so
so.
O
O
So
we
bought
into
a
portion
of
that
line
to
help
you
know
serve
out
of
this
Hemingway
station,
so
we
can
transmit
our
energy
into
the
Treasure
Valley,
but
the
Gateway
West
product
that
you're
referencing
would
originally
it
was
going
to
parallel
through
the
birds
of
prey
areas
as
as
as
you're
you
stated,
and
that
was
even
though
it
was
blm's
preference.
At
the
time
we
went
back
in
2018
through
an
act
of
Congress
to
get
that
route
changed.
O
A
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much,
I
appreciate
it.
So
is
there
thank
you.
I'll
go
ahead
and
see
if
there's
anybody
else
that
wants
to
speak
to
this
project,
no
other
questions
to
the
Commissioners
to
the
applicant.
Okay.
Is
there
anybody
online
that
wishes
to
address
this
project,
anybody
in
the
room
that
wishes
to
address
this
project?
B
A
A
N
Would
like
to
add
the
presentation
by
the
applicant
as
exhibit
number
16..
Okay,
thank.
O
Thank
you,
Vice
chair
and
Commissioners
I,
don't
know
if
Idaho
Power
or
a
contractor
will
end
up
constructing
this.
My
guess
is:
will
have
a
a
contractor.
Do
this
due
to
the
scale
of
the
work
and
the
special
poll
types
our
project
manager,
Tom
Barber,
is
in
the
back
I.
If
I
could
ask
him
to
come
up
here
or
we
can
speak
with
the
gentleman
afterwards.
P
A
C
A
C
I
mean
I
think
this
is
a
very
straightforward
project.
I
think
it
adds
a
lot
to
the
infrastructure.
You
know,
as
the
applicant
said
it,
you
know
kind
of
helps,
connect
the
super
high
voltage
lines
together.
I
also
appreciate
the
ReUse
of
existing
infrastructure
as
part
of
that
project,
rather
than
just
slapping
in
new
polls.
To
do
it
and
I
also
agree.
You
know
this
seems
like
a
very
massive
project,
so
I
think
it
is
totally
fine
to
extend
that
project
date
by
the
two
years,
since
it's
a
very,
very
large
project
to
do.
A
A
N
N
N
So
what
they're
proposing
is
the
front
part
of
the
property.
They
have
some
existing
structures,
they
have
some
loafing
shits
and
then
they
want
to
build
a
barn
right
almost
next
to
where
their
home
is.
You
can
see
it
in
this
picture
on
the
left,
and
then
they
have
the
writing
Arena
towards
the
southern
portion
of
their
property.
N
Q
Q
So
we
are
proposing
a
multi-phase
application,
so
when
we
met
and
spoke
with
Diana
that
this
would
be
done
in
three
phases:
the
first
to
allow
us
to
operate
a
training,
private
small
facility
for
100,
jumper
training
and
then
a
boarding
facility
within
that
and
the
next
phase
to
allow
us
to
build
the
barn
and
the
third
phase
to
add
a
covered,
a
small
covered
Arena
on
the
back
side
of
the
barn.
These
are
the
this
picture.
Here
is
the
loafing
sheds
that
are
already
built.
So
this
is
where
horses
currently
live.
Q
This
was
long
before
we
were
planning
or
intended
to
have
a
training
facility
moved
to
our
property.
Initially
we
had
it
structured
for
my
old
retired
horse
and
a
couple
clients,
retired
horses
that
needed
a
place
to
live
my
mom's
horse
and
then
in
March
we
had
been
operating
a
hunter
jumper
Barn
at
a
facility
in
Eagle
and
had
we'd
been
there
for
eight
years
and
then
had
to
move
our
12
horses
out
of
that
facility,
and
so
we
split
between
three
barns.
Q
At
that
time
we
were
on
Google
Maps,
looking
for
different
places
to
re-home
our
12,
clients
that
were
live
were
living
and
operating
at
that
Barn
and
we're
trying
to
find
Arenas
and
knocking
on
doors
and,
as
you
know,
equestrian
facilities
are
few
and
far
between
and
we
ended
up
having
to
split
the
business
between
three
different
locations,
one
in
Star
and
then
two
other
barns
in
Eagle
and
within
that
I've
tried
to
maintain
our
clientele
and
our
show
barn
and
operations.
Q
And
ultimately
it
has
been
a
really
difficult,
eight
months
of
just
trying
to
manage
three
different
Opera,
three
different
Barns,
and
so
we
had
in
June
finished
our
Arena
as
our
personal
Arena
and
have
are
in
hopes
that
we
can
begin
operating
our
training
Barn
at
its
full
capacity
from
our
home.
Q
Q
Maybe
the
next
one,
the
one
from
the
arena.
There
was
different
comments
that
we
wanted
to
kind
of
discuss
from
our
neighbors.
We
did
have
a
neighborhood
meeting.
Q
This
is
from
the
farthest
South
Point
of
our
property,
and
so
I
wanted
to
show
kind
of
the
video
of
How
It's
impacted.
We
do
have
four
neighbors
that
are
directly
impacted
here
tonight
as
well.
That
are
supporting
this
and
are,
you
know,
are
very
much
in
favor
of
it.
Q
The
prop
the
the
arena
itself
is
at
the
for
this
North
part
of
the
property,
and
the
arena
is
also
follows:
the
Topography
of
the
land,
the
existing
land,
so
that
the
outdoor
Arena
was
there,
and
this
is
at
night
at
the
southernmost
property
looking
back
up
towards
where
the
barn
would
be
the
lights
which
will
come
into
view
at
the
very
end
right
there.
That's
I
put
my
car
there
just
to
show
what
the
southernmost
neighbor's
concerns
would
be
with
headlights
or
any
sort
of
lighting.
Q
I
just
wanted
to
show
how
that
would
you
know
impact
them,
there's
actually
trees
along
that
whole
side,
and
we
do
plan
to
put
trees
on
the
berm.
That
is,
on
the
southernmost
side
of
the
Arena,
to
also
act
as
a
visual
barrier.
A
A
R
Call
them
and
we're
not
sure
whether
or
not
they'll
pick
up
but
we're
going
to
attempt.
S
A
E
And
just
get
out
of
the
way
if
they
don't.
A
A
Yes,
hello,
Curtis.
We
can
hear
you
you're
prepared
to
testify
with
respect
to
the
commercial
writing.
Arena.
Yes,
I
am
you
have
three
minutes
and
we'll
start
you
right
now.
Can
you
please
state
your
name
and
address?
First,
though,.
T
Okay,
I
want
to
thank
first.
You
know,
commissioner
Sexton
Wickstrom
Bertrand
Colson
and
planner
Sanders.
Thank
you
for
your
time
tonight.
I
really
do
appreciate
this
I
want
to
give
a
little
bit
of
background
about
myself.
I've
lived
in
the
Idaho
area
for
20
years
in
16
years
on
Brookside
Lane.
T
You
know
we
moved
here.
You
know
for
the
farm
life
for
the
privacy
and
we've
raised
our
three
kids
here,
owned
four
family
horses
for
nearly
the
entire
time,
and
we
really
try
to
live
as
private
a
life
as
possible,
so
I
kind
of
want
to
get
back
on
why
you
know
why
am
I
testifying
I?
My
my
strong
opinion
is
that
I
do
not
want
a
precedent
set
for
commercial
property
joint
adjoining
adjoining
my
property.
T
You
know
we're
situated
near
you
know
the
Dry
Creek
subdivision
and
Hunter
homes,
which
leads
me
to
believe
that
further
development
will
occur.
You
know
just
part
of
the
infield
process.
I
believe
this
is
a
referendum
on
whether
Brookside
Lane's
future
is
either
commercial
or
residential.
T
Now,
in
the
past
we
have
dealt
with
you
know
with
neighboring
commercial
Endeavors
in
the
past
that
you
know
that,
with
that
were
extreme
proximity
to
our
property
lines
and
I'm
very
thankful
to
code
enforcement.
They
acted
promptly
and
you
know
they
dealt
with
it
appropriately.
So
again,
very
thankful
for
code
enforcement
there
and
and
I
understand,
like
I.
T
This
commercial
proposal
is
not
to
be
confused
with
in-home
office
businesses
that
many
idahoans
idahoans
make
they're
living
from,
and
this
one
uses
the
entirety
of
the
property
up
to
the
property
lines
and
for
me,
I
I
do
not
want
strangers
or
the
general
public
freely
peering
into
my
personal
space,
I
mean
that's,
that's
the
first
thing
there.
T
So
in
2021
you
know
we,
the
the
board,
the
southern
or
the
northern
border
of
our
property
Southern
border
was
theirs
the
board.
We
there
was
a
an
issue
with
regards
of
modifying
the
board,
the
Border
fence.
T
From
our
opinion,
it
was
fine,
but
the
you
know,
but
the
but
the
applicant
proceeded
with
it
and
at
that
time
I
was
under
the
impression
this
neighbor
was
doing.
You
know
casual
owners
of
horses,
just
like
myself
and
just
wanted
to
have.
You
know
to
have
this
type
of
living,
just
like
just
like
I
do
I
was
not
made
aware
beforehand
that
this
was
part
of
a
plan
to
pursue
a
commercial
business.
T
I
mean
the
first
time
that
I
was
made
aware
of
the
pursuit
of
this
commercial
use.
Was
the
male
notifying
me
of
this
very
meeting?
Okay
and
then
so.
Another
thing
is
like
okay,
that
kind
of
setting
the
background
we
have
and
they
they
completed
their
outdoor,
Arena
and
other
accessory
buildings
in
the
summer.
T
Early
summer,
this
year,
but
again
before
the
application
for
commercial
use,
it
and
again
it's
just
been
very
clear
that
they
have
been
using
the
arena
for
either
one
Federal
public
use
to
subcontractor
trainer
for
lessons
or
direct
lessons
to
clients.
All
of
them
would
have,
you
know,
violated
section
8543-108
and
I
and
I'm
synthetic
I
understand.
This
is
why
the
applicant
is
pursuing
commercial
use,
but
violating
beforehand.
Just
it
just
leads
me
to
believe
that
things
will
you
know
things
will
happen
in
the
future?
T
It
just
it
doesn't
give
me
a
lot
of
trust,
and
so
in
that
and
the
third
thing
I
think
of
is
precedence.
If
this
sort
of
thing
happens,
all
the
time
or
someone
can
install
those
multiple
commercial
buildings
with
the
intent
of
being
commercial
without
the
stop
gaps,
I,
don't
know
what
prevents
others
on
Brookside
Lane
from
pursuing
the
same
thing,
so
I
asked
this:
I
had
sent
an
earlier
email
just
listing
them
four
major
concerns
and
I
just
kind
of
want
to
go
through
them.
If
that's
okay,
if.
V
T
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
very
much,
commissioner.
My
first
one
is
privacy.
My
original
tenant
moved
into
an
RIT
zone
is
to
live
on
Acres
threat
of
the
public
or
businesses
growing
over
my
property
line,
so
that
that's
one
two
is
liability.
T
I
need
to
have
guarantees
that
any
new
Commercial
Business
adjacent
to
mine
does
not
expose
me
to
any
extra
liability
claims
that
come
from
businesses,
subcontractors
or
clients
I
can
think
of
three,
but
that's
not
that
that's
not
limited,
and
it's
usually
due
to
injury
or
something
that
comes
out
where,
where
that
a
client's,
personal
property
makes
it
over
to
my
property
and
gets
injured
or
damaged
and
I
do
not
want
to
be
exposed
to
that
kind
of
liability.
T
T
We
we've
observed
as
late
as
10
30,
some
of
the
the
the
the
the
trucks
the
with
the
with
the
the
horse,
the
horse
trailers
leaving
as
late
as
10
30
at
evening.
So
we
don't
really
know
what
what
what's
going
on
in
terms
of
hours
and
then.
Lastly,
it's
Waste
Management
I'm,
just
doing
just
quick,
math
15
horses
and
about
31
pounds
of
manure
a
day,
and
it
makes
about
seven
tons
of
manure
a
month,
I
I
I
know
there
are
Idaho
laws.
T
I
we've
had
Neighbors
in
the
past,
who
packed
manure
literally
right
on
our
property
line.
We
absolutely
do
not
want
that
or
anything
close
to
that
I
mean
I
need
to
have
some
guarantees
with
regards
to
it
and
I
apologize
for
going
over
time.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
consideration.
Thank.
A
W
Thank
you.
Vice
chair
Commissioners
sky,
blue
4033,
North,
Brookside,
Lane,
83714,.
W
Thank
you,
and,
and
just
real
quickly.
We've
lived
in
that
location
for
25
years
now
and
probably
and
I
share
the
the
Eastern
City,
the
Eastern
side
of
the
property
that
the
applicants
are
are
referring
to
so
the
pastor
directly
to
the
East
and
also
our
own
part
of
the
private
Lane.
That
is,
access
to
the
applicant's
property.
W
You
know,
I
share
the
concern
of
commercialization
of
Brookside
Lane,
and
you
know:
we've
seen
projects
coming
up
from
storage
sheds
to
grocery
stores
into
the
area
and
Brookside
has
the
chance
to
become
a
real
shortcut.
Raceway
between
Highway,
55
and
and
Beacon
Light
so
should
certainly
share
those
concerns.
However,
I
am
in
favor
of
the
applicant's
proposal,
because
I
think
it's
actually
an
asset
to
the
area.
We
also
own
horses
we
like
to
ride
in
the
area.
W
The
ability
and
the
access
to
the
Foothills
through
the
very
various
private
ways
to
areas
that
are
BLM
and
other
Open
Spaces
are
increasingly
diminished.
Having
a
dedicated
horse
arena
in
the
area,
I
think
is
an
asset
I
think
it's
consistent
with
the
use
of
neighbors
who
ride
on
their
property.
Have
private
Arenas
have
horse
horses
and
horse
facilities
as
well?
We
have
five
horses,
you
know
directly
kitty
corner
to
that.
We
raise
hay
on
our
two
pastures
and,
and
you
know,
had
several
Neighbors
in
the
area
and
you
know
knowing
the
applicants
personally.
W
They've
been,
you
know
absolute
great
neighbors
and
always
been
respectful
to
any
questions
or
mitigation
or
requests
we
have
as
a
neighborhood.
So
just
to
conclude,
you
know,
having
watched
a
project
precede
the
care
and
responsiveness
of
the
applicants.
I
don't
have
concerns
and
I
I
think
it's
consistent
with
what
I
see
as
the
neighborhood
and
and
in
in
favor.
Y
An
area
really
gravitate
and
support
the
ruralness
and
the
equestrian
part
of
the
community.
I
think
is
is
great.
Secondly,
understand
that
there's
some
concern
about
the
commercial
nature
and
the
number
of
horses.
We
actually
have
six
ourselves,
but
we
have
known
the
tilden's
since
they
moved
in
we've
been
in
the
area
17
years
and
they're.
Just
their
credibility
is
unquestionable.
Y
I
mean
they
have
been
there
when,
when
we've
needed,
help
as
I
see
what
they've
done
to
their
Barn
air,
not
barn,
but
they're
kind
of
their
paddocks-
and
you
know
they've
always
picked
up
and
they
really
keep
things
clean
and
so
I
just
see
how
they've
responded
to
some
of
the
complaints
or
some
of
the
questions
and
I
think
you
know
it's
all
showed
a
lot
of
thoroughness
on
their
part
and
I
have
no
doubt
that
they
will
do
what
they're
saying
they're
going
to
do
so
supported
100
percent.
Z
Mr
Vice
chairman
and
Commissioners
I'm
James
Desmond,
2773,
North,
Haven,
Drive,
Eagle
Idaho.
The
first
thing
I'd
like
to
do
gentlemen,
is
my
wife
had
submitted
a
letter
on
the
3rd
of
October
to
Diana.
She
got
a
receipt
email
indicating
that
that
letter
was
received
and
was
in
the
record
as
of
this
afternoon.
I
couldn't
find
it
in
the
record,
so
I
would
ask
that
that'd
be
admitted.
It's
from
Becky
Desmond
same
address:
okay,
Commissioners
I'm
not
going
to
go
over
things.
I
also
submitted
a
letter.
I
support
the
application.
Z
Z
A
A
A
U
AA
Greg
and
Megan
frankamp
we
live
at
3939,
North,
Brookside
Lane.
We
share
the
private
Lane
little
lane
and
Brookside,
where
the
around
the
southwest
side
of
Brookside
sharing
little
lane.
We
support
the
project.
AA
We've
been
there
for
two
and
a
half
years,
and
we've
had
the
pleasure
of
helping
our
neighbors
in
the
with
Brittany
and
Eric
and
picking
up
after
the
horses,
while
they've
been
gone
for
travel
and
things,
and
they
run
a
very
nice
horse
facility
in
the
sense
of
the
horses
they
take
care
of,
they
take
care
of
well,
they
have
picked
up
manure
more
efficiently
than
you
know.
I
would
like
to
say
most
dog
owners
would
do
when
it
comes
to
these
large
animals
that
are
laying
quite
a
lot
of
manure
each
day.
AA
We
noise
carries
our
way
because
we're
in
a
valley
that
has
Hills
behind
and
comes
our
Direction
and
we've
never
had
issues
with
noise.
We've
not
had
issues
sharing
little
lane,
which
is
a
very
small
dirt.
20
20
foot
diameter
Lane.
We
never
have
issues
with
traffic,
even
with
that
said,
we'll
have
to
change
the
way
we
park
and
we
still
support.
What's
going
on
with
Eric
and
Brittany,
knowing
that
they're
bringing
something
that,
as
has
been
stated
before,
is
much
needed
in
our
area.
D
AC
Name
is
Evelyn
Byron
and
1417
East
Franklin
Street.
AB
I'm,
a
writer
at
Prairie,
Foxx
Farms,
but
I'm
currently
boarded
facility,
Mary
and
Brittany
are
my
trainers,
but
they
have
completely
changed
my
life
in
such
a
positive
way.
I
hope
other
writers
can
experience
what
I've
experienced
and
I
hope
they
can
share
their
wisdom
across
the
community
and
thank
you.
AC
AC
This
is
so
important
to
me
and
the
community
our
community.
Thank
you.
AD
Mr
chairman
Commissioners
I'm,
Laura
Johnson
I,
live
at
1691
Hereford
Drive
in
Eagle
I
have
a
I'm,
a
native
of
Eagle,
born
and
raised
in
this
area.
Now,
in
you
know,
many
years
grew
up.
Riding
grew
up
riding
in
the
eagle
Foothills
and
I've
known
the
tildens
for
a
very
long
time.
Brittany
has
given
me
lessons
as
a
lifelong
equestrian,
she's
come
to
my
home.
Given
me
lessons
there
and
I
am
so
supportive
of
this
facility.
AD
There
is
a
real
need.
That's
been
brought
up
before,
but
in
addition
to
that,
it
provides
some
support
for
small
business
while
at
the
same
time
really
maintaining
the
rural
character
of
the
area.
Their
facility
is
top-notch,
I
mean
the
tilden's.
Do
everything
state-of-the-art
high-end,
their
Arena
footing
is
amazing.
AD
I
mean
I'm
just
jealous
that
I
can't
and
I'm
not
going
to
put
something
in
like
that
at
my
place,
where
I
ride
at
home,
but
I'd
love
to
be
taking
more
lessons
there,
because
it
is
just
so
nice
and
I've
heard
some
concerns
about
commercial
operations.
And
you
know
the
one
thing
about
commercial
is:
there's
a
wide
spectrum
to
Commercial,
and
you
know
somebody
else
mentions
storage
units
and
grocery
stores,
but
a
riding
facility
is
still
so.
AD
Rural
I
mean
it's
not
the
same
thing
as
as
a
storage
unit
or
or
those
kinds
of
commercial,
proper
parties,
and
it
so
fits
in
that
area
and
the
other
thing
that
hasn't
really
been
mentioned.
Is
they
also
have
pastures.
I
mean
it's
not
like
the
entire
seven
acres
is
developed,
but
I
mean
they
still
have
Pastors
in
turnout
for
their
horses
and
as
far
as
manure
I
mean
they
clean
the
manure
every
day
and
they
it's
hauled
off.
Weekly
I
mean
there's
no
dumping
of
manure
around
the
property
they
dispose
of
it.
AD
I
I
mean
it
is
really
such
a
high-end
facility.
It's
it's
very
impressive
and
something
that
the
eagle
community
in
Ada
County
can
really
very
much
be
proud
of
again.
I
think
it
comes
down
to
supporting
small
business
and
economic
development.
What
an
economic
development
while
at
the
same
time
maintaining
that
real
rural
character,
that
is
I,
mean
it's
a
perfect
spot
for
that
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
A
Q
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
I'll
try
and
be
very
quick.
Just
addressing
a
couple
things
one
is
we
do
carry
our
own
liability
insurance,
which
is
standard
protocol
with
any
equestrian
facility
or
business.
So
in
regards
to
concerns
with
liability
in
a
shared
fence
line
that
that
absolutely
is
covered
under
our
own
insurance
policy
in
regards
to
operation
of
hours,
there's
it
we
had
proposed
from
dawn
to
dusk,
and
so
that
that
is
our
intent.
Q
Of
course,
there
will
be
lights
within
a
barn
evening,
checks,
trucks
and
trailers
leave
we
travel
across
the
country
for
horse
shows
and
competing.
So
there
are
occasionally
trucks
and
trailers
that
will
leave
at
early
morning
and
late
morning
or
vet
appointments
when
a
horse
is
injured,
so
in
in
respect
to
operation
that
I
can
attest
would
happen,
but
certainly
being
as
Mindful
and
respectful
as
we
can
be
to
our
neighbors
and
making
sure
that
we
have
as
many
visible
barriers
as
we
can
provide
and
with
Waste
Management.
Q
We
remove
all
waste
weekly,
so
we
currently
have
our
own
garbage
cans
that
get
put
on
a
trailer
and
taken
down
to
be
picked
up.
Every
week,
so,
every
week
waste
is
disposed
of
it
and
removed
off
of
the
property
is
I'll,
stand
for
any
questions.
Commissioners.
A
D
You
so
on
your
hours
of
operation.
Are
you
seeing
Donna
desk
who's?
What
we
were
reporting
so
during
the
summer
that
could
go
till
9,
9
30,
even
10
o'clock
during
the
longest
parts
of
the
day?
Is
that
something
that
you
would
consider
restricting
and
and
putting
a
limit
on
it
and
say
you
end
operations
at
say
seven
o'clock
in
the
evening,
so
that
people
can
enjoy
an
evening
that
you
know
dear
neighbors,
particularly
your
one
neighbor.
Q
Certainly
I
in
the
summer
months
we
enjoy
riding
outside
and
with
the
heat
we
try
and
be
respectful
to
our
horses
and
not
ride
during
the
day.
So
we
do
ride
in
the
mornings
or
in
the
evenings
just
to
try
and
avoid
the
heat,
I
would
say:
no,
we
could
certainly
restrict
our
hours
to
no
later
than
8
P.M
that
we
would
be
concluding
and
if,
if
needed,
to
move
that
earlier,
we
certainly
would
consider
it
too.
It's.
D
Part
of
the
reason
for
having
a
covered
structure
over
your
Arena
would
just
be
to
be
able
to
operate
during
the
middle
of
the
day
when
it
won't
be
quite
as
hot
I
would
imagine.
But,
and
also
would
you
consider
maybe
a
restriction
on.
Maybe
the
number
of
days
that
you're
open,
maybe
you're
not
open
on
Saturdays
and
Sundays
or
say
Sundays
Maybe.
Q
Sure
so
the
covered
Arena
again,
that
would
be
in
phase
three
and
not
something
that
would
be
very
usable
in
space.
It's
an
80
by
80,
which
for
competition
horse
is
a
very
small.
It's
like
a
no
more
than
a
round
pen
really,
and
so
that
is
intended
for
use
during
the
winter
months.
When
our
arena
is
unusable.
Q
Right
now
we
have
to
load
horses
up
and
haul
to
other
there's
two
other
Arenas
that
graciously
and
sometimes
let
us
in,
but
there's
they're
few
and
far
between
and
one
was
just
bought
by
another
developer.
So
the
the
what
it.
What
will
happen
with
that
one
is
to
be
determined
if
it
will
even
be
an
option
going
forward.
We
don't
know.
D
So
you
said
you
said
the
covering
you're,
not
sure.
If
that's
going
to
be
in
in
phase
three
you're,
not
sure
if
that's
going
to
happen
or
not,
is
that
what
you're
saying
financially.
Q
At
this
point,
I,
don't
know
my
husband
would
say
absolutely
not,
but
the
covered
the
covered
is
just
essentially
a
round
pen
to
keep
horses
moving
their
their
athletes.
They're
high-end
athletes
of
the
highest
caliber,
so
keeping
them
out
on
pasture
is
great,
but
allowing
them
to
continue
work
is
what
we
would
hope
to
be
able
to
do
in
the
winter
months,
in
that
in
that
area,.
D
And
one
last
question:
I
know
it's
just
the
way
that
your
property
was
originally
set
up.
Every
all
your
facilities
are
on
the
west
side.
Next
to
the
nicest
house.
D
Q
W
Q
Electrical
and
water,
so
Power
and
Water,
is
already
fed
to
that
side
of
the
property,
and
that's
one
of
that
was
a
main
consideration.
There's
one
neighbor
specifically
that's
impacted,
but
are
the
loafing
sheds
that
we
had
built
long
before
we
ever
it
went
down?
This
path
were
built
as
AG
buildings,
the
covered
ones
that
I
had
shown.
Those
images
of
those
have
are
would
be
in
front
of
where
the
barn
would
be
placed.
So
there's
no
visible,
no
additional
visibility
that
they
would
have.
Q
D
Q
Q
Arena
yep,
so
the
arena
is
actually
further
down
with
her
Arrow.
So
the
arena
is
the
purple
there.
So
the
house,
the
barn,
is
situated
between
and
then
the
sheds
are
the
the
along
that
property
line
and
then
the
arena
the
outdoor
arena
is
further
south.
Q
Q
Q
Q
A
Any
other
questions
for
Miss
Tilden
I
do
have
a
couple
questions:
I
I,
don't
want
to
Discount.
The
concerns
that
were
raised
by
Curtis
Iraqi
is
that
his
name
some
of
those
have
already
been
addressed,
and
that
is
what
how
how
much
light
there
would
be
on
the
property.
The
manure
that's
cleaned
up.
It
sounds
like
you
do
a
fantastic
job
and
he
doesn't
want
people
that
could
get
injured.
You've
talked
about
the
liability,
insurance
and
I
know
how
that
goes.
A
If
you've
got
little
kids
there,
they
may
be
standing
on
the
fence
looking
over
into
the
property
next
door,
and
so
I
think
it's
important
to
make
sure
that
those
concerns
are
addressed
and
worked
out
with
your
neighbor.
We
have
a
riding
arena
next
to
our
property,
not
an
arena
as
such.
It's
a
training
facility
and
we
have
fabulous
neighbors
and
it
is
an
asset
to
the
neighborhood
to
have
it
next
to
us.
AE
A
C
Z
C
Much
of
the
testimony
and
the
applicants,
presentations
and
remarks
to
me
showed
a
lot
of
thoughtfulness
and
a
lot
of
mitigation
towards
the
concern
from
Kurt.
If
I'm,
recalling
the
name
correctly,
Curtis
and
I
do
think
you
know,
some
of
these
would
be
addressed
by
the
conditions
of
approval
themselves.
You
know
with
you
know,
Ada
County
ordinances
and
then
the
others
can
be
addressed.
C
You
know,
via
the
liability
insurance
you
know,
and
there
are
other
just
general
operating
procedures
that
they've
outlined,
that
they
already
have
you
know
and
in
respect
to
the
concern
of
over
commercial
I.
Do
think
this
is
definitely
a
you
know.
Air
quote
commercial
Endeavor.
That
is
very
rural
in
character.
D
Yes,
I'm
still
a
little
concerned
about
the
the
hours
of
operation
seven
days
a
week
down
to
dusk.
They,
they
sound
like
very
upright
good
people
that
are
going
to
run
a
good
business,
but
I
just
think
if
I
was
a
neighbor.
I
would
not
want
to
have
cars
coming
and
going
until
nine
ten
o'clock
at
night
during
the
summer
when
I'm
wanting
to
go
outside
and
enjoy
the
coolness,
as
well
as
everybody
else.
But
it
is
a
conditional
use.
D
So
it'll
come
up
for
a
review
at
some
point
down
the
road
and
if,
if
there
are
issues
that
you
can't
address
it
at
that
time,
inappropriate
manner,
but
that
that's
still
I'd
like
to
see
some
restrictions
there,
but
as
it
is.
So.
Thank
you.
C
A
C
E
Chairman
and
Commissioners,
you
need
to
add
a
condition
to
review
the
approval
within
a
certain
period
of
time,
if
that's
what
you're
interested
in
so
otherwise,
it's
subject
to
the
noise
ordinance,
which
typically
requires
all
noise
and
activity
to
kind
of
cease
around
I
believe
it's
10
o'clock
each
night.
So
sorry.
D
E
C
A
I
It's
going
to
preserve
more
of
the
rural
area
out
there
for
them
and
for
its
for
its
neighbors
I
mean
once
this
is
built,
it's
going
to
be
very
likely
that
they'll
sell
it
and
other
developments
will
come
in.
So
a
lot
of
those
concerns
were
were
that
they
were
going
to
lose
their
you
know
out
in
the
country,
feel
so
I
think
it's
a
I.
Think
it's
a
great
thing.
A
A
AF
Chairman
Commissioners
project,
2022036
cumsp,
is
a
conditional
use
and
master
site
plan
application
for
a
Retail
Landscape
Nursery.
The
property
is
located
at
5374,
West
Franklin
Road
and
consists
of
5.09
acres
in
the
rural
urban
transition.
District.
This
property
is
located
within
the
city
of
meridian's
area
of
City
Impact
and
their
future
land
use
map
designates
the
site
as
general
Industrial
The
Proposal
utilizes,
most
of
the
property
for
outdoor
storage
of
plant
and
landscape
materials.
AF
Those
would
be
the
checked
boxes
in
the
middle
of
the
site,
along
with
the
tree
storage
at
the
north
of
the
property.
The
applicant
plans
to
utilize
excuse
me
the
existing
home
as
an
office
which
will
require
a
building
permit
for
the
change
of
occupancy.
They
also
plan
to
utilize
an
existing
storage
structure
towards
the
northwest
corner
of
the
property
and
then
install
shade
houses
near
that
existing
home,
which
will
be
the
office.
There
are
20
employee
parking
spaces
proposed
along
with
12
Standard
customer
customer
spaces
and
two
Ada
spaces.
AF
The
hours
of
operation
for
the
business
are
7
A.M
to
5
P.M
Monday
through
Saturday.
The
application
has
been
approved
by
the
Meridian
fire
department.
There
are
no
outdoor
lighting
or
speakers
that
are
proposed.
There
is
perimeter
landscaping,
that's
proposed
along
the
west
east
and
the
street.
AF
This
will
require
a
landscape
plan
to
be
submitted
as
a
condition
of
approval.
This
was
not
included
as
a
condition,
and
so
it
will
need
to
be
added
with
the
motion.
If
you
do
decide
to
approve
this
application
and
there
is
a
requirement
from
Central
District
Health
to
submit
a
an
additional
application
to
their
office
so
that
they
can
determine
if
the
existing
septic
system
can
support
the
new
use.
The
Ada
County
Highway
District
did
approve
of
the
application
with
specific
site
conditions,
some
of
which
include
dedicating
additional
right-of-way
and
adding
detached
sidewalks.
AF
D
A
D
You
Vice
chair
so
you're,
just
looking
at
for
a
landscape
plan
on
that.
Is
that
the
condition
just
says
can
a
landscape?
Do
you
need
a
plan
landscape,
submit
a
landscape
plan,
or
do
they
actually
need
to
do
landscaping?
The.
AF
A
A
M
Good
evening
my
name
is
Lauren.
Broyles
I'm,
with
cshqa
Architects
business
address
is
200
Front,
Street,
Boise
I'm
here
representing
our
client,
Arbor,
Farms,
Nursery
and
I.
Don't
think
I
really
have
anything
additional
to
add
to
what
Corey
has
already
presented.
She's
pretty
much
presented
everything
there
is
to
the
project.
It's
a
pretty
simple,
straightforward
project.
So
if
you
have
any
questions,
I'm
open,
we.
M
A
A
A
D
Yes,
there's
already
commercial
uses
in
that
in
that
neighborhood
across
and
in
the
area
across
the
street
and
in
nearby
lots
and
there's
always
looks
like
there's
always
some
already,
some
minor
commercial
operations
going
on
there
with
gravel
and
trucks.
So
this
is
just
in
fact,
I
think
it
looks
like
it'd,
be
an
improvement
to
the
the
current
property.
That's
out
there,
it's,
it
seems
straightforward.
D
It's
going
to
be
a
something
to
add
to
that
area,
nice
to
have
a
landscape
place
where
you
can
pick
up
plants,
but
it
fits
in
with
what's
going
on
out
there.
A
A
A
AE
Cpa-Zc-Da-Cu.Msp
is
a
conference
of
plan
map,
Amendment
zone
change,
development
agreement,
conditional
use
and
master
site
plan
for
a
310
unit
recreational
vehicle
park.
The
property
is
located
at
7680
West
Vallejo
Road
and
contains
39.55
Acres.
The
subject:
property
has
historically
been
an
outdoor
shooting
range
known
as
Black
Dog
Clays.
The
shooting
range
has
operated
on
the
property
since
at
least
1967
prior
to
the
adoption
of
a
County
zoning
ordinance,
the
surrounding
areas
Rural
and
residential
north
of
the
New
York
Canal.
AE
The
applicable
comprehensive
plan
is
a
county,
comprehensive
Clan.
The
future
land
use
map
and
the
comprehensive
plan
designates
the
size
rangeland
since
the
proposed
recreational
vehicle
park
is
not
compatible
with
the
existing
Rangeline
designation.
The
applicant
has
requested
a
comprehensive
plan
map
Amendment
to
redesignate
the
property
as
commercial
within
which
the
proposed
use
could
be
allowed.
AE
Conversely,
a
benefit
of
rezoning,
the
property
to
the
C1
district
is
that
would
allow
a
recreational
vehicle
park
can
crank
control
the
regulated
environment
where
recreational
vehicles
could
be
capped.
There
is
a
strong
need
for
additional
Recreational
Vehicle
Parks
to
be
developed
in
the
Treasure
Valley.
AE
The
applicant
has
applied
for
conditional
use
of
Master
site
plan
for
a
recreational
vehicle
park
that
could
initially
proposed
for
the
recreational
vehicle
park
to
consists
of
388
units
developed
in
three
phases.
However,
based
on
feedback
from
the
a
County
Highway
District,
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
scale
back
their
proposal
to
310
spaces,
and
the
project
would
still
be
developed
within
three
phases.
With
the
310
spaces,
the
park
will
include
both
short
and
long-term
stays.
AE
The
Advocates
stayed
in
their
detail
there
that
they
will
have
rules
in
place
to
maintain
a
high
standard
of
quality
in
the
park.
The
applicant
will
bring
domestic
water
to
the
site,
which
will
be
provided
by
Viola
water.
The
park
will
have
two
RV
dumping
stations.
The
Central
District
Health
Department,
will
need
to
approve
of
The
Dumping
stations
if
this
project
is
approved.
AE
A
two
position
two
petitions
have
been
circulating
regarding
this
project,
with
both
petitions
garnering
many
signatures.
One
petition
is
in
favor
of
the
project
and
the
other
is
in
opposition
to
it.
Those
in
opposition
that
provide
comments
to
the
project,
general
concerns
of
the
project
include
traffic
compatibility
with
existing
neighborhood
and
ground
water.
AE
Neighbors
are
concerned
that
the
project
will
increase
traffic
on
Coal
Road
and
the
RV
park.
Customers
will
utilize
hollyland
drive
to
cut
across
the
Pleasant
Valley
Road
many
neighbors
stay
that
the
proposed
RV
park
is
not
compatible
with
the
existing
neighborhood
and
land
uses
as
the
surrounding
areas,
rural
in
nature.
Some
of
the
comments
mentioned
that
the
RV
park
would
have
an
adverse
effect
on
groundwater
in
the
area
and
it
would
cause
neighboring
Wells
to
go
dry.
AE
The
applicant
has
proposed
spring
Viola
water
to
the
site,
veal
as
well
tap
into
a
deeper
aquifer
than
the
shallower
aquifer
that
the
neighboring
Wells
are
tapping
into.
Thus,
if
the
proposed
RV
park
hooks
up
to
Viola
water,
it
should
not
be
affecting
the
neighboring
shallower.
Wells,
a
concern
was
raised
at
the
RV
dump
station
will
contaminate
degrade
groundwater.
If
the
project
is
approved,
the
Central
District,
Health
Department,
would
need
to
approve
of
the
RV
dump
station.
AE
A
member
of
the
public
see
that
there
is
a
public
health
risk
on
the
site
due
to
the
accumulation
of
lead
on
the
property.
The
app
can't
say
that
they
will
remediate
the
site
for
this
project.
The
remediation
would
need
to
meet
the
standards
laid
out
by
the
Idaho
Department
of
Environmental
Quality.
AE
An
adjacent
neighbor
was
concerned
with
a
lack
of
a
buffer
between
the
RV
park
and
their
property
line,
and
this
neighbor
is
also
apprehensive
about
the
potential
for
fires
from
the
site.
Several
agencies
have
provided
comments
on
this
application
based
on
agency
comments.
The
project
could
be
approved
through
compliance
with
conditions
of
approval.
AE
Key
agency
responses
include
the
Boise
fire
department
on
behalf
of
the
Whitney
fire
district
ma
County
Highway
District,
the
Boise
fire
department
stayed
at
the
approximate
response
time
for
the
nearest
fire
station
is
approximately
six
minutes
which
is
outside
the
5-minute
Target
response
time.
Fire
hydrants
capable
of
producing
the
required
fire
flow
shall
be
located
so
that
no
part
of
the
structure
is
more
than
400
feet
from
the
high
drain.
Data
and
fire
apparatus
access
roads
exceeding
150
feet
in
length
shall
be
provided
with
an
approved
area
for
turning
around
fire
apparatus
in
fire
apparatus.
AE
Access
Road
shall
have
an
approved
driving
service
of
asphalt,
concrete
or
other
approved
driving
surface
that
can
support
the
imposed
load
of
fire
apparatus
weighing
at
least
75
000
pounds.
The
a
County
Highway
District
replied
that
the
RV
park
with
310
spaces
is
estimated
to
generate
1085
additional
vehicle
trips
per
day.
AE
The
99
additional
vehicle
trips
per
hour
in
the
p
and
peak
hour
base
on
the
traffic
analysis
provided
by
the
applicant's
engineer,
the
acceptable
level
of
service
for
a
two-lane
principal
arterial
is
level
of
service
e,
which
is
690
vehicle
trips
per
hour,
and
the
acceptable
level
of
service
for
two-lane
or
collector
is
d
with
425
vehicle
trips
per
hour.
Vallejo
road,
which
is
a
principal
arterial,
has
a
p
and
peak
hour
level
of
service.
That
is
better
the
level
of
service
d
and
excuse
myself
and
coal.
AE
Road,
which
is
a
principal
arterial,
has
a
PMP
hour
level
of
service.
That
is
also
better.
The
level
of
service
D,
the
average
daily
traffic
cap
for
Coal
Road
South
of
Lake
Hazel,
was
1221
vehicle
trips
on
June
29
2019
and
the
average
daily
traffic
count
for
Holly
Lynn
Drive
East
of
Cole
Road
was
620
vehicle
trips
per
day
on
September
29
2022.
The
incoming
highway
district
also
has
a
condition
of
approval
to
requiring
for
the
applicant
to
improve
Vallejo
Road
from
the
sites.
AE
West
property
line
to
Cole
Road
with
35
of
payment
and
a
construct
a
three
foot
wide
gravel
shoulders
within
the
existing
driveway
staff
under
this
application
does
not
comply
with
the
county
comprehensive
plan
and
a
County
zoning
ordinance
and
recommends
denial.
The
application
as
the
recreational
vehicle
park
will
create
and
do
adverse
impacts
on
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
As
the
comprehensive
plan
map,
Amendment
and
rezone
to
commercial
is
not
compatible
with
the
surrounding
Rural
and
Residential
Properties
and
the
recreational
vehicle
park
will
be
a
significant
distance
from
other
services
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
Thank.
AG
Griffin752
West
heatherwoods,
Drive,
Nampa,
Idaho,
83686
I,
am
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
owners,
Justin
and
Jana
Griffin.
Our
project
is.
W
AG
If
you
hit
the
top
right
corner,
where
it
says,
slideshow
Brent
it'll
go
through
that
perfect
and
then
two
clicks
more
one
and
two
there.
It
goes
currently
as,
as
stated
by
Brantley,
did
a
fantastic
job
on
on
expressing
in
length
that
detailed
the
property
it
is
currently
Black,
Dog
Clays,
Black,
Dog
Clays,
has
been
in
use
since
1967.,
possibly
earlier.
That's
just
the
the
first
recorded
date
that
we
have.
If
you
want
to
go
ahead
to
the
next
slide,
Brent,
it
was
established
before
the
Ada
County
zoning
ordinance
was
adopted.
AG
A
lot
of
people
ask.
Why
is
this
here?
Why
is
this
happening
especially
near
neighborhoods?
It
was
before
that
point
and
they
got
grandfathered
in
as
far
as
I
know,
from
speaking
with
staff.
It
currently
has
24
shotgun
shooting
stations
that
are
directed
towards
the
north
side
of
the
property
on
39
and
a
half
acres
of
land,
as
expressed
by
Brent.
AG
The
current
concerns
with
the
proposed
project-
and
these
concerns
I
wanted
to
note-
were
brought
by
and
fourth
coming
from,
the
community
and
members
within
the
community
inside
and
both
outside
of
the
area
and
of
impact
water,
lead
contamination,
traffic
and
road
conditions,
fire
concerns
and
Views
I
just
wanted
to
briefly
go
through
how
we're
working
hard,
especially
after
our
neighborhood
meeting,
to
mitigate
those
issues.
After
we've
heard
those
next
slide.
AG
We
have
an
agreement
with.
We
had
a
prior
agreement
with
Suez
water,
and
now
we
have
a
current
agreement
with
violia
water
utilities
to
be
able
to
have
access
on
testimonies,
I'm
sure
tonight,
we're
going
to
hear
a
lot
of
testimonies
about
water
and
drying
up
of
Wells.
One
of
the
the
big
reasons
why
we're
proposing
this
application
and
making
such
a
note
of
this
is
for
a
lot
of
these
neighbors.
That
is
a
fact
that
Wells
are
drying
out
and
we're
here
to
mitigate
that
issue.
AG
We
have
agreed
and
we
are
not
going
to
fight.
There
was
an
appeal
process
for
the
actual
condition
of
use
that
we
would
extend
that
road.
Currently
it's
an
unsafe
Road,
it
doesn't
have
lines,
it
doesn't
have
signage
and,
unfortunately,
last
week
a
pedestrian
was
hit
on
that
road.
With
this
property
and
with
this
project
we
hope
to
mitigate
those
issues
moving
forward
and
some
will
say
well,
you're
bringing
in
more
traffic-
and
although
that
may
be
true,
we're
also
going
to
extend
the
road
and
we're
going
to
add
an
additional
shoulder.
AG
That's
not
currently
there
for
people
that
may
use
that
road
for
walking
paths
or
so
on.
It's
essential
that,
just
for
that
portion
alone,
it's
considered
to
approve
this
project
to
to
consider
the
safety
of
not
only
current
community
members
but
future
community
members.
Fire
concerns.
We
have
already
gone
through
the
approval
process
and
got
annexed
into
the
Whitney
fire
district.
Before
this
point
we
were
not
annexed
in
and
we
were
not
covered
by
a
Boise
fire
department
based
on
our
location.
AG
We
went
through
the
processes
in
the
pre
procedures
to
go
through
that
approval,
and
they
have
also
agreed
that
we
will
be
bringing
in
the
info
infrastructure
for
that.
I'd
also
like
to
know
that
the
note
of
the
fire
that
happened
in
July
of
this
year,
it
was
coming
right
over
south
of
Vallejo
and
it
almost
hit
those
those
properties
along
that
line.
If
that
would
have
happened,
there
was
no
water
infrastructure
to
be
able
to
stop
that.
AG
They
were
drawing
fire
lines,
and
that
was
the
only
solution
for
mitigation,
because
there
was
no
resource
to
Pump
from.
If
this
Project's
approved
fire
hydrants
will
be
accessible,
they
will
be
available
not
only
for
our
property
but
for
surrounding
properties.
I
know
one
of
the
the
neighboring
properties
had
mentioned
concerns
of
fire
if,
if
there
ever
would
be
a
fire
they're
in
better
hands
having
those
fire
hydrants
in
that
infrastructure
than
they
would
be
currently
now,
I
could
be
up
here
all
day
long
and
keep
rambling
I.
AG
Think
it's
important
that
we
play
this
video.
It's
been
a
relevant
Topic
in
the
community
in
the
state
and
now
in
the
news
of
Idaho's
current
RV
situation.
I
hope
we
have
volume
because
I
think
we
should
take
it
from
somebody
else.
Let's
see
that
would
be
a
bummer,
let's
see,
if
I
can
do
it
this
way,
will
you
start
that
over
Brent
sure,
let's
see
if
I
can
try
and
do
it
this
way
the.
AH
AI
Yeah
and
there's
a
wide
range
of
people
who
are
staying
here
at
the
KOA
on
those
months
to
month,
sort
of
long-term
options.
Here,
some
see
living
out
of
an
RV
as
a
lifestyle.
It's
a
choice
they
made,
but
for
others
here
they
say
it's
the
only
housing
option
they
could
afford
shoulder
to
shoulder.
The
Meridian
KOA
hosts
a
variety
of
RVs
and
trailers,
but
they
all
serve
the
same
purpose:
housing
yeah.
AI
AI
76.
Richard
Morehouse
is
called
the
KOA
home
since
February
he's
retired
and
lives
on
a
fixed
income.
He
says
the
housing
market
priced
him
out
of
apartments
and
rentals,
so
his
daughter
offered
up
this
trailer
and
helped
him
get
this
spot
at
the
KOA.
So
it
was
nice
of
her
to
do
that
for
her
dad.
Take
a
quick
look
around
the
KOA
decks,
Gardens
and
Home
Improvement
projects
sure
signs.
Many
of
these
trailers
aren't
leaving
anytime
soon
for
them
it's
the
stepping
Zone.
AH
AI
AI
AJ
I
think
that
I
seen
this
coming
but.
AI
AI
Now,
when
people
come
here
to
the
KOA
and
there's
not
a
monthly
spot
open
Forum,
they
asked
to
be
put
on
a
wait
list.
The
manager
tells
me
they've
gotten
rid
of
the
wait
list.
They
got
so
long.
It
was
pretty
irrelevant
to
put
somebody's
name
on
it
because
there's
so
many
months
out
again
a
wide
range
of
people
here,
some
of
them
even
college
students,
Doug
and
Morgan.
AG
Why
do
I
feel
that
it's
relevant
to
to
play
this
piece?
One
of
the
things
I
want
to
know
in
no
way
or
mean?
Are
we
trying
to
put
a
situation
for
homelessness
as
a
top
priority
or,
as
maybe
stated
later,
on
trailer
trash?
This
will
be
well
kept.
This
will
be
up
kept
one
of
the
members
on
that
video
stated.
AG
She
was
a
traveling
nurse,
it's
essential
for
them
to
be
able
to
help
us
and
support
us
in
the
valley
as
well,
and
without
that
opportunity
we
might
not
have
her
to
be
helping
our
infrastructure
here
in
the
valley
fully
booked.
Can
it
be
true,
it
absolutely
is
Brent
had
to
suffer
through
emails
from
me
if
you'll
click
Brent,
these
are
11
5
of
11.
good
morning.
These
year-round
turnover
rate
about
three
to
four
times
a
year.
Do
the
length
of
our
waiting
list
we're
no
longer
adding
continue?
AG
AG
Currently,
our
waiting
list
is,
it
is
long
and
our
lease
is
here
are
month
to
month.
So
unless
somebody
tells
us
they
are
moving
out,
we
don't
know
we.
We
do
not
have
super
high
turnaround
if
you'd
like
to
get
on
our
wait
list,
please
give
us
a
call
next
good
morning.
Sebastian
our
wait
list
for
long-term
monthly
sites
is
a
long
one.
I
have
not
been
adding
to
it
since
because
of
its
length.
AG
Next
one
simple
as
this-
and
this
was
part
of
the
KOA
group-
we
are
sorry
we
do
not
have
any
long-term
spaces
available
and
we're
no
longer
adding
to
our
waitlist,
because
it
is
so
long
and
next
slide.
That's
why
we're
proposing
this
I
know
it's
a
big
ask
you're
going
to
hear
testimony
from
both
sides.
AG
This
is
an
opportunity
that
not
only
developed
the
infrastructure,
that's
necessary
in
this
area.
Having
accidents
on
the
roads
is
horrible,
having
the
fires
creeping
over
and
potentially
burning
up
properties
is
sad
and
we're
here
to
mitigate
that
310
spaces
and
a
three-phase
program.
Now
some
people
say
well
we're
nervous
about
the
quote:
trailer
trash,
that's
been
in
a
lot
of
emails
and
petitions
and
it'll
be
just
the
opposite.
Please
Brent
our
proposed
map,
where
we're
hoping
to
make
this
a
green
space,
we're
the
city
of
trees.
AG
The
applicants
are
fifth
generation
here
in
Idaho,
one
of
them
is
going
to
state
where
he
was
born
and
I.
Think
it's
fantastic
next
slide,
as
you've
heard
this
isn't
going
to
be
just
for
the
slum
or
the
homeless
Although
our
affordability.
We
hope
to
help
even
mitigate
that
issue,
but
this
is
going
to
be
for
people.
We
have
doctors
and
nurses
that
travel
here
that
support
us.
We
have
linemen
and
construction
workers.
AG
Idaho
Power
was
here
earlier
and
they
just
stated
they're
about
to
have
a
huge
development
who
do
they
bring
in
they
bring
in
linemen.
Where
do
Lyman
stay?
They
stay
in
RV
resorts
because
they're
traveling
around
the
country.
We
cannot
fill
that
demand.
Currently
and
this
project
will
help
do
that
next
slide.
AG
This
is
something
that
we
hope
to
bring
in
dog
parks.
We
hope
to
bring
in
pickleball.
We
hope
to
bring
in
walking
trails,
because
we
know
the
roads
aren't
safe,
even
with
the
amount
of
infrastructure
we
can
put
in.
We
hope
to
isolate
this
as
a
little
hit
and
Oasis.
That's
our
whole
goal.
That's
our
intention
to
provide
an
opportunity
for
people
within
our
state
that
need
an
option
of
transitioning.
This
is
not
a
permanent
stay.
These
are
RVs
and
travel
trailers.
I
can't
state
that
enough.
AG
When
people
hear
the
word
trailer
park,
we're
not
saying
trailer
park,
we're
saying
RV
Resort.
These
are
fifth
wheels
and
bumper
poles
that
are
not
going
to
be
fixed
structures.
It's
expected
and
we
hope
to
expect
in
our
ccnr's
our
community
guidelines
that
people
have
to
move
their
space
every
six
months.
Why
do
we
do
that?
Not
because
we
want
to
force
anybody
out,
but
because
we
want
to
mitigate
the
issue
of
potential
permanent
stay
and
of
the
opportunity
for
others
to
say?
AG
AG
This
is
something
that
we
want
to
compare
to
as
Ponderosa
and
McCall
that
we
are
willing
to
put
the
financial
infrastructure
in
to
plant
trees,
to
plant
grass
to
beautify
the
area,
to
produce
better
infrastructure
for
water,
for
the
neighbors,
for
ourselves
to
help
improve
the
road,
so
in
a
tragic
accident
does
not
happen
again
in
the
next
slide.
Please.
AG
This
is
something
that's
not
just
for
travelers.
This
is
something
for
college
students.
We
had
a
couple
here
earlier.
They
had
to
leave
because
they
had
to
rush
off
to
class
that
were
going
to
testify
tonight
and
express
that
they
almost
couldn't
go
to
school
here,
because
there
was
no
option
for
them.
Rent
is
at
capacity,
housing
is
overpriced.
This
would
have
been
a
semester
option
for
some
of
those
students.
Next
slide,
please
what
a
beautiful
family
I
can't
wait
to
see
this
come
in
here
because
that's
the
goal:
we
want
families.
AG
We
want
working
idahoans
to
have
opportunities.
This
isn't
just
where
okay
we're
having
long-term
stays
for
for
Joe
schmoe.
These
are
doctors.
These
are
nurses,
these
are
students.
These
are
construction
workers.
These
are
linemen.
These
are
business
owners
and
I'm.
Sure
you'll
hear
some
of
that
in
later
testimony
today.
AG
Sorry
about
that
to
conclude,
Commissioners
I
know
the
current
recommendation
before
you
is
denial
I.
We
understand
why
we're
asking
a
lot
here,
but
a
lot
is
necessary
in
a
time
where
people
are
needing
help.
It's
not
just
about
idahoans,
it's
about
the
entire
community
that
we're
serving
here
that
you
serve
every
day.
This
is
absolutely
necessary.
There's
absolutely
a
need.
There's
opportunity
to
bring
in
taxable
income
into
the
county
to
bring
in
opportunities
for
people
to
see
the
beautiful
city
of
trees
that
we
want
to
have
them
experience
firsthand
within
the
park
as
well.
AG
So
I
can
hope
you
will
consider
these
things
and
I
hope
you'll
see
that
how
forthright
we've
been
trying
to
visit
with
Suez
Central,
District,
Health
or
I
apologize.
AE
AG
A
A
A
A
A
AK
AK
So
this
would
help
people
like
me
and
I
know
people
that
I
know
personally
that
are
looking
for
RV
parks
just
park
it
in
and
they've
been
waiting
for,
probably
close
to
a
year
too
so
I
don't
know
what
else
to
say
about
it,
but
other
than
that
I
mean
there's
a
gun
club
out
there
I
see
that
I'm
not
sure
how
close
the
gun
club
is
to
it,
but
I
would
see
a
guaranteed
for
this
where
people
with
housing,
because,
right
now
you
people
can't
afford
housing,
because
the
housing
has
gone
so
far
up
and
everybody
knows
that
you
know,
and
so
we
couldn't
afford
to
buy
another
house.
AK
So
now
we're
just
going
mobile,
but
we're
in
the
back
of
my
nephew's
house
right
now
living
for
the
last.
What
eight
months
now
still
looking
to
find
an
RV
spot?
We
might
have
one
in
by
Lake
low,
but
we
don't
know,
but
that's
kind
of
how
I
look
at
it.
This
is
a
dire
need
for
this
and
I
think
it
would
help
the
community
a
lot
for
people
to
live
in
RVs
because
I
know
a
lot
of
people
living
in
people's
yards
around
the
valley,
and
that's
that
couldn't
be
happening.
A
AL
A
AL
AL
Her
name
is
Vicki
Catlin
she's
at
8401
South
Cole,
directly
to
the
east
of
the
property.
She
owns,
40
acres
there
two
Parcels
that
make
up
that
40
acre
quarter
quarter
right
there.
She
wishes
to
present
for
the
record
her
opposition
to
the
application,
the
application
courses
for
an
amendment
to
the
comprehensive
plan
and
Amendment
to
the
zoning
change
for
this
property.
Her
two
Parcels
are
both
zoned
as
rural
residential,
an
amendment
change
from
rangeland
to
Commercial
and
Rural
Preservation
to
Neighborhood
commercial
and
her
mind
does
not
fit
the
character
of
this
neighborhood.
AL
She
is
very
concerned
that
these
amendments
and
the
ultimate
development
for
this
property
will
have
an
adverse
impact
on
the
property
on
her
property,
of
course,
and
really
because
of
the
train
and
the
elevations
how
it
sloped
out
there.
She
believes
that
her
property
could
bear
the
brunt
of
all
the
dangers
and
inconveniences
that
the
project
will
bring
to
this
coal
and
Vallejo
corridor.
AL
Many
of
these
dangers
and
inconveniences
have
already
been
recognized
shared
across
the
written
testimony.
I
guess
signing
up
online
I
didn't
expect
that
I
was
going
to
be
the
first
one
up
here.
So
I
expected
a
lot
of
those
to
already
have
been
voiced,
but
pulling
from,
of
course,
the
written
record.
There
was
a
lot
of
opposition
as
well.
I
will
just
take
one
minute:
I
have
left
to
highlight
the
issues
that
we
hope
they
be
given.
High
consideration
in
your
decision.
AL
We're
encouraged
that
the
Planning
and
Zoning
staff
has
recommended
that
it
denies
the
application
so
they're,
I,
guess
I'll
just
skip
to
like
the
goal
2-2
of
the
comprehensive
plan,
as
it
makes
clear
that
commercial
designations
only
make
sense
where
investments
in
urban
service
have
already
been
made
or
planned
and
programmed
in
a
plan
nearby.
AL
AL
So
as
such,
of
course,
the
staff
recommended
that
change
not
compatible
at
this
time
with
the
surrounding
properties
and
it's
you
know
that
includes
specifically
her
property
and
so
that
I
would
just
know
it
exhibits,
I
think
the
exhibits
that
stated
it
well
that
I
hope
you
guys
had
a
chance
to
see
where
51
62
66
69
gave
a
good
history.
78
82
gave
a
good
overview.
AL
The
health
risk
gave
a
good
recent
publication
that
it
touched
and
83
and
then
exhibit
at
85
was
the
Central
Health
District
email,
highlighting
that
the
applicant
still
has
some
direct
answers
that
it
hasn't
given.
Yet
on
some
of
the
issues
out
there
as
to
some
of
the
other
agency
responses,
so
many
of
those
seem
to
be
still
unresolved
and
for
good
reason.
You
know
this
proposed
development
just
doesn't
look
to
fit
in
in
this
area
at
this
time,
so
not
standard
not
similar
to
the
surrounding
property
and
I.
AM
Good
evening
and
thank
you
for
hearing
me,
my
name
is
Lenny
frames.
I
live
at
9190
South
Raptor
Lane
Boise
Idaho
83709
homeowner
out
there
has
been
out
there
for
26
years.
I
support
the
staff's
recommendation
to
deny
the
application
I'm
opposed
to
the
project.
The
applicant
made
a
comment
regarding
really
said.
Two
things
were
here
at
Short:
Term
we're
going
to
regulate
these
to
six
months
stays.
However.
He
also
applied
for
long
range,
his
witness
he
had
on
the
phone
talked
about
living
there
full
time.
AM
His
appeal
to
the
sense
of
affordability
for
homes
appeals
to
the
sense
of
staying
there
for
long
term,
I,
don't
feel
it
fits
in
the
community
as
far
as
our
our
overall
rural
designation
of
home
ownership,
you
guys
just
heard
the
application
from
the
person
who's
trying
to
do
the
horse
Arena
horse
facility
there,
and
you
talked
about
how
its
appeal
would
help
that
rural
community
and
build
that
out
and
continue
that
lifestyle.
This
will
actually
do
the
opposite.
AM
It
will
not
support,
or
it
will
not
enhance
the
overall
rural
component
that
we've
all
moved
out
there
when
we
bought
the
land
in
the
first
place
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
there.
In
addition
to
that,
I'd
like
to
ask
the
question:
are
there
any
impact
studies
of
what
it
will
do
to
our
wells
to
our
water
table?
To
what's
going
to
happen
there?
AM
The
road
as
as
they
put
in
a
road
infrastructure
Vallejo,
is
a
dead
end
Road.
There
is
nowhere
to
get
to
our
home
other
than
South
Colon,
Vallejo
or
Holly
Lynn.
Once
you
start
construction,
and
you
start
this
facility
we're
stuck,
we
have
to
deal
with
this.
We
have
the
inconvenience
and
it's
going
to
be
years
and
years
of
inconvenience
just
like
when
they
did
a
little
portion
of
South
Coal.
AM
Back
to
my
question
on
impact
studies,
are
there
any
impact
studies
that
have
been
done
regarding
the
water
regarding
the
land
regarding
what
it's
going
to
do
for
the
amount
of
traffic?
What
it's
going
to
do
to
property
values
for
us
as
we
live
out
there
I'd
like
to
see
those
if
it
has
been
done,
that's
all
I
have
thank
you.
P
Good
evening
I'm
John
Robb
7707
West
Vallejo
I,
live
directly
across
the
street
from
this
proposed
project
it
doesn't
fit
in
with
a
neighborhood
at
all.
We
have
million
dollar
homes
on
Holly,
Land
and
also
in
our
area.
They're.
All
Ranch
hats
to
put
an
RV
apart
right
across
the
street
from
us
would
degrade
the
whole
neighborhood
plus
the
the
road.
The
road
is
is
dangerous,
as
stated
earlier.
Somebody
died
on
it
last
week
and
it's
a
very
narrow
road.
P
At
the
same
time,
plus
the
Emergency
Services
coming
trying
to
get
in
to
fight
a
fire
how's
that
going
to
work
how's
that
going
to
even
be
feasible,
they'll
have
to
build
a
much
bigger
road
than
30
feet,
also
Services,
one
of
the
reasons
that
they
said
it
just
wasn't
about
the
road.
It
wasn't
just
about
the
fire
Services,
it
wasn't
just
about
the
water,
it's
about
the
whole
services
for
the
community
of
shopping
of
going
people
will
be
going
in
and
out
of
that
road
constantly
and
you'll
have
a
big
Jam
of
of
cars.
P
Also
what
about
the
water?
Our
well
went
dry
this
last
year
it
took
us
six
months
just
to
get
another
driller
out
there
to
do
our
well,
and
he
said
yes,
water
has
been
going
down
a
foot
a
year
in
this
area.
Sure
they'll
have
a
deeper
well,
but
what
about
the
water?
On
top
of
that
well,
and
what's
going
to
happen
with
that,
so
putting
more
people
in
the
area
will
create
not
only
that
problem,
but
also
other
problems
that
we
cannot
deal
with.
P
Also,
the
the
lead
is
a
big
problem
to
mitigate
for
that
and
I
know
that
there's
ways
to
do
that,
but
what
about
the
Dust,
while
they're
cleaning
it
up,
that's
going
to
be
created
by
the
wind,
while
they're
cleaning
up
the
the
lead
on
that
property?
It's
been
a
long
time
since
that's
been
there,
so
I
urge
you
not
to
approve
this.
The
are
our
staff
report
that
you've
received
says:
no,
it
doesn't
fit.
It's
it's
not
going
to
work.
P
V
My
name
is
Tyler
urson
back
11401,
West,
Blue,
Kane,
Street,
Boise,
Idaho
and
I
gave
an
address,
but
that's
not
my
address.
That's
my
parents
address
because
I'm,
a
biomedical
student
and
I
work
full-time
trying
to
get
an
apartment,
trying
to
get
any
type
of
property
right
now
is
insane,
as
we
saw
in
that
video
and
I
recently
was
looking
at
this
option
of
you
know
getting
a
camper
and
moving
out
there,
but
I
was
told
the
same
thing.
V
You
know
like
it'll,
take
a
year
plus
just
to
get
there,
and
you
know
that's
not
possible.
For
me,
you
know
I,
just
I
can't
do
it
while
trying
to
work
full-time,
managing
that
and
managing
School
paying
for
tuition
and
still
trying
to
get
a
14
to
1700
apartment
like
it's
just
not
possible.
If
you
look
at
the
prices
it
says
you
know,
each
spot
is
about
600
a
month
and
buying
a
new.
You
know.
V
Camper
is
about
280,
so
still
well
under
that
range
of
that
14
1500
a
month
apartment
like
that's,
that's
just
crazy
and
for
now,
if
you
think
about
the
type
of
people
that
are
getting
these
campers
getting
these
trailers.
These
are
people
that
appreciate
rural
areas,
they're
people
that
go
Outdoors
a
lot
so
to
say
that
you
know
I
I
myself,
who
loves
going
outdoors,
I,
love
mountain
biking,
I
love
trail,
running,
I
love.
You
know
that
rural
areas
to
say
that
me
I'm,
contributing
to
you,
know
diminishing
that
aspect.
V
I
I,
don't
think
you
know.
That's
that's
fair
to
say
on
that
behalf,
because
you
know
I
love
that
and
I
would
love
to
keep
that
that
aspect
as
much
as
possible,
but
I'm
trying
to
find
a
place
to
stay
and-
and
it
looks
like
just
an
amazing
place
where
they're
they're,
keeping
up
the
trees
they're
keeping
up
the
facilities.
You
know
they're
they're,
doing
things
to
improve
the
area
and
not
just
for
those
residents,
but
for
you
know
everybody
in
the
surrounding
areas
as
well.
AN
Hello
Mr
chairman
Commissioners
Luke
mcgirtio
residents,
7873
South
Cole
Road
I
would
like
to
give
my
time
to
my
father,
Lou
magerdio,
if
possible,
sure.
B
Louis
magortio
live
on
7373
South,
Maple
Grove
Road
I
am
Muriel
Farms
the
development
that
will
be
coming
down
the
pike
our
family's
been
out
there
since
1917.
B
B
AO
B
That
one
right
there,
so
you
see
the
New
York
Canal
layer
in
in
the
mcgregio
family,
owns
all
the
property
to
the
on
the
north
side
of
that
Canal.
You
can
actually
see
my
Dairy
there
too
I'm
I'm
concerned.
B
One
one
of
the
big
problems,
I
think,
is
the
the
it's
it's
on
a
hill
everything
drains
down
to
the
New
York
Canal
it
it
kind
of
it
poses
a
problem.
I
think
and
I
think
that
that
I
mean
the
New
York
Canal,
as
you
well
know,
is
the
largest
conveyance
of
water
in
the
valley
and
if
you
could
switch
back
to
the
Landscaping
now,
please.
B
You
know
I
believe
there's
not
a
water
ride
out
of
the
New
York
canal
to
irrigate
that
I
mean
I
could
be
wrong,
but
I
don't
think
so
that
that's
a
that's
a
concern.
I
mean
it
looks
great.
You
know
it's
great,
the
Landscaping
looks
beautiful
I,
just
don't
know
the
amount
of
water
to
keep
all
those
trees,
nice
and
green
and
and
the
Landscaping.
B
The
other
thing
that
was
not
brought
up
was,
you
have
Holly
Lynn
up
there
that
goes
off
to
the
East
off
a
Coal
Road
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
talk
on
Cole
Road
of
trying
to
widen
that,
and
it's
just
been.
It's
just
been
a
a
big
controversy
over
the
years
and
I've
seen
that
area
grow
quite
a
bit
up
there
and
and
obviously
the
people
up
on
Holly
Lynn.
You
know
they
don't
want
all
that
traffic
coming
by
him.
Like
all
of
us
do
you
know,
I
totally
get
that.
AN
If
I'd
like
to
add
something,
my
main
concern
as
a
young
farmer,
because
I
deal
with
this
on
a
daily
basis,
I
farm,
the
field
directly
towards
the
west
of
this
developed
property
and
towards
the
north
is
where
I
live.
I
have
immense
pressure
from
people,
trespassing
on
private
property
and
I.
With
this
development
they
would
be
running
jogging
and
going
into
my
crops,
which
are
irrigated
and
have
pesticide
on
them,
which
would
create
more
of
a
liability
issue
for
me
that
has
already
established
there
and
been
there
for
the
previous
10
years.
AN
AP
My
name
is
Kelly
Divine
I'm
at
7707,
West,
Vallejo,
Road
and
I
just
happened
to
notice
the
the
design,
the
beautiful
design
with
the
beautiful
trees
and
the
beautiful
family
next
to
the
RV.
That
was
a
door
length
away
from
the
next
RV.
That's
five
people
in
that
beautiful
family
times
over
300
people.
AP
What
I
didn't
notice
is
where
all
the
cars
would
park,
except
for
the
side
that
have
maybe
20
spaces
and
the
only
thing
that
I
really
see
that's
accurate
is
the
tiny
road
that
would
accommodate
all
of
those
cars
for
all
of
those
beautiful
families
in
those
RVs
wrapped
around
that
tiny
little
space
with
all
of
those
trees,
I'm
pretty
sure
that
the
water
is
not
going
to
be
too
much
of
a
problem,
because
you're
going
to
take
out
a
lot
of
those
trees
to
create
parking
spaces
for
those
cars
that
are
missing
in
that
beautiful
land
Escape.
A
AO
I
apologize
this
proposal
because
two
reasons
one
is
a
leg
contamination.
AO
They
say
they
were
based
on
the
EPA
and
to
do
this
to
do
the
cleanup
and
how
do
we
know
the
leg
will
be
cleaned
up
and
how
do
we?
What
is
the
criteria
to
make
sure
that
the
delay
is
cleaned
up
and
won't
cause
any
impact
on
the
on
the
even
the
rentals
live
in
there?
This
is
a
series
question:
how
are
we
going
to
clean
the
left,
which
won't
impact
the
people
who
already
there
right
and
second
question?
Is
the
traffic
I
think
Landing?
AO
My
number
already
talked
right:
we
I'm
I'm
living
in
the
inside
of
a9i,
sauce
Reptile
Land
now
area.
If
you
move
388,
are
we
in
there?
The
traffic
in
there
will
impact
our
our
in
and
out
a
lot
and
and
also
the
safety
to
write.
Just
a
woman
just
died
a
couple
weeks
ago
because
of
was
walking
there
and
it's
hesitant
I
mean
and
that's
that's
my
concern.
Okay,.
A
A
AQ
Mark
Boswell
I
have
1897
East
Cave
Fall
Street
I
grew
up
in
an
RV
park.
My
family
grew
up
in
there.
It
helped
us
get
on
our
feet
to
afford
housing
and
we
grew
up,
and
a
lot
of
places
will
turn
you
away.
If
you
do
not
have
an
RV,
that
is
to
their
standards
to
keep
up
the
area,
they
don't
want
run-down
RVs,
so
I'm
just
saying
I'm.
For
this
it
helps
I
have
family
members
that
have
tried
to
come
up
to
Idaho,
but
cannot
because
of
no
RV
parks.
S
Good
evening,
gentlemen,
my
name
is
Matt
Dahlstrom
I
live
on
1530
Ann,
Street,
Nampa
Idaho
83687,
probably
wondering
why
I'm
all
the
way
coming
from
Nampa
to
here.
It's
because
I
currently
am
in
an
RV
drove
30
minutes
here
and
I've
been
sitting
here
for
two
and
a
half
hours
to
have
this
moment
to
speak
before
you
for
three
minutes,
because
I
personally
am
a
small
business
owner.
S
Boise
born
and
raised
I
currently
have
to
live
in
RV,
because
I
am
not
emotionally
stable
enough
to
move
back
in
with
my
parents
and
not
financially
stable
enough
to
go
into
to
rent
with
a
couple
of
college
men
so
I
just
for
me,
myself
has
been
a
big
blessing.
S
I
have
seen
a
huge
influx
in
residents
coming
into
Idaho,
there's
a
lack
of
Housing
and
it
is
obviously
a
problem.
That's
not
going
to
getting
better.
We
would
be
very
ignorant
as
Citizens
and
as
residents
of
Idaho
to
say
that
Idaho
and
especially
Boise
and
the
Treasure
Valley
area,
is
not
expanding
from
what
I've
heard
since
I've
been
here
sitting.
Here
is
a
lot
of
complaints,
a
lot
of
concerns,
but
not
very
many
solutions.
S
What
I
love
about
this
project
and
why
I'm
for
it
100
is
they
proposed
Solutions
and
more
than
anything,
they
propose
a
big
solution
to
a
huge
problem
that
we
cannot
continue
to
ignore,
and
that
is
the
influx
of
residents
coming
into
Treasure
Valley
and
the
influx
of
residents
I
want
to
visit
Boise
and
bring
in
that
Commerce
that
cannot
afford
or
cannot
that
the
opportunity
to
visit
or
be
here
in
the
valley
is
not
presented
to
them.
S
So
just
a
few
things
that
I
can
clarify
as
someone
that
does
stay
in
a
trailer
parking
RV
spots.
As
far
as
that
goes,
the
vehicles
are
typically
parked
right
in
front
of
the
RV
right
there.
You
can
fit
two
or
three
cars
right
there
in
the
same
spot.
You
don't
need
extra
spots,
it's
pretty
convenient
and
it's
very
well
kept
it's
pretty
common
practice
for
a
lot
of
people.
You
don't
need
to
pave
a
whole
lot
more
cement
right
there
in
your
spots,
your
RV
right
next
to
it's
your
car,
it's
not
hard!
S
As
far
as
your
road,
which
continues
to
be
a
problem
that
keeps
coming
up,
people
complaining
about
not
enough
roadway
or
enough
space
for
vehicles
to
get
through
your
average
car
width
is
actually
5.6
feet.
S
A
U
U
I
think
it's
it's
an
incredibly
complex
proposal,
there's
very
compelling
reasons
on
both
sides.
U
U
I
had
to
live
with
my
parents
for
several
years
in
order
to
be
able
to
buy
a
home
that
took
several
years
of
hard
work,
saving
working
for
a
fqhc,
federally
qualified,
Health,
Center
and
now
serving
our
nation's
veterans
at
the
VA
I
feel
conflicted
in
this
because,
on
the
one
hand,
I
do
hear
the
Next
Generation
saying
how
it
is
difficult
to
live
here.
I
think
we
all
know
that
we're
seeing
our
Valley
change
before
our
eyes.
U
My
experience
in
this
area
I
cycle
a
lot.
It's
a
very
rural
areas.
You've
heard
what
I'm
concerned
about
is,
while
it
may
be
offering
the
ability
for
certain
folks
to
live
in
a
more
economical
area,
there's
really
a
lack
of
infrastructure
in
this
area.
There
are
no
grocery
stores
that
are
not
walkable.
Should
people
need
to
the
water
I
think
we've
beat
to
a
pulp
about
the
situation
there
I
do
think
growing
up
on
a
farm.
Trespassing
is
a
considerable
concern.
U
We
have
had
theft
at
our
family
farm
people
have
no
regard
for
individual
property
rights.
They
see
corn
stocks,
they
come
and
take
them.
They
don't
ask
I,
don't
go
into
their
yard
and
take
their
sprinkler,
because
I
need
a
sprinkler
without
asking
I
think
that
to
sum
up
well,
I
think
we
are
trying
to
solve
a
very
complicated
problem
here.
We're
looking
at
housing
and
affordability.
I,
don't
see
this
as
being
the
appropriate
solution
to
do
that.
U
It's
a
misplaced
area
for
this
development.
The
clip
from
YouTube
I,
actually
had
to
look
up
where
that
was.
It
was
in
a
much
more
urban
area
where
there
are
services
available.
This
is
at
the
end
of
a
Country
Road
off
of
coal
Road
on
Vallejo,
where
the
infrastructure
is
not
there.
There
are
very
minimal
services
with
that
I
hope,
as
our
Valley
continues
to
evolve.
We
can
find
some
solutions
to
this,
but
I'm
not
confident
at
this
point
that
this
is
one
such
solution.
Thank
you.
Thank.
AR
That's
okay,
my
address
is
2601
South,
Loftus,
Way,
Meridian,
Idaho
and
I
am
in
full
support
of
of
this
proposal
in
2020
my
wife
and
I
engaged
and
got
married.
We
were
quickly
tasked
with
finding
a
place
to
live
as
a
full-time,
Finance
student,
a
newly
licensed
real
estate
agent
and
a
lifetime.
Idahoan
I
was
well
acquainted
with
housing
prices
very
familiar
with
them
and
knew
that
we
did
not
have
the
budget
to
buy
a
house
at
that
time.
So
you
run
through
the
options.
What
to
do?
You
know
live
with
the
parents.
AR
AR
You
know
quickly.
Did
the
math
on
that
I
knew
over
a
year
span,
I'd
be
at
least
18
Grand
and
up
in
rent
and
a
year
is
what
we
needed
to
get
by
to
where
we
thought
we
could
afford
a
house
I
continued.
Looking
at
options.
I
eventually
got
found.
The
idea
of
a
tiny
house
living
in
a
tiny
house
I
quickly
found
one
that
we
liked
and
we
purchased
it
well
now.
The
question
was:
where
do
we
park
it?
AR
As
we
know,
space
is
extremely
Limited
in
RV
parks
and
none
of
those
were
a
good
option.
I
was
fortunate
to
find
a
friend
who
let
me
park
it
at
their
house
in
in
Boise
over
that
year
time
we
right
from
purchasing
that
tiny
house.
We
had
equity
in
it
and
over
that
year's
time
of
living
in
it
and
enjoying
it
we're
able
to
sell
it
at
the
end
and
nearly
double
our
money.
AR
Looking
at
the
alternative
of
spending
18
to
20
grand
and
losing
that
money
automatically
or
or
potentially
making
this
money
on
the
tiny
house
like
we
did,
it
was
incredible.
We
took
that
money
used
it
as
a
down
payment
on
our
house
that
we
purchased
and
that
time
spent
living
in
a
tiny
house
was
invaluable
and
it
enabled
us
to
be
where
we
are
today.
We've
heard
opposition
of
people
that
live
in
the
area.
AR
I
have
many
friends
and
family
members
that
live
right
in
that
area
off
of
Vallejo
and
and
those
streets,
and
we've
heard
issues
such
as
dust
or
theft.
I,
truly
believe
that
the
benefits
greatly
outweigh
the
cons
dust
is
such
a
small
mute
point
in
comparison
to
be
unable
to
afford
housing.
We
need
this.
It's
needed
it's
necessary
and
I.
Think
that's
obvious.
Thank
you.
Thank.
J
Richard
rockroar
9150,
South,
Talon
Lane
I
have
I'm
just
south
of
the
development
on
a
little
over
10
acres.
I
am
opposed
to
this
development,
mostly
because
of
it
doesn't
fit
the
character
of
the
surrounding
area.
J
J
Back
in
the
70s,
when
I
first
got
married,
I
lived
in
a
20-foot
travel
trailer
for
a
year
and
a
half
with
my
new
wife.
We
got
closer
together.
That
way,
certainly
did
so
it
it's
something
we
need,
but
I
think
the
testimony
we've
all
heard
here
has
been
from
people
that
are
in
favor,
because
they're
in
favor
of
the
concept
that
this
is
something
we
need,
and
it
is
something
we
need.
J
I,
think
something
off
a
gallon
Road,
where
you
have
a
major
artery
or
you
could
access
around,
where
there's
more
than
one
way
in
and
out
for
fire
would
be
a
very
good
spot
and
it'll
be
very
lucrative.
There's
a
lot
of
money
to
be
made
at
five
six
hundred
dollars
a
deal,
the
ccrs
I,
don't
believe
they
say
six
months.
Limited
I
believe
this
is
a
long-term
thing
should
be
to
make
it
work
right,
but
I'm
definitely
opposed
for
where
it
is.
J
My
10
acres
I've
tried
for
the
last
10
years
to
get
it
split
into
two
fives,
since
I
have
Talon
Lane
going
right
down
the
middle
and
the
other
five
doesn't
do
anything
and
my
kids
want
to
build
on
the
other
side
of
it.
I
can't
get
that
done,
because
it's
not
zoned
for
that
right
now
and
I
think
this
is
not
what
we
should
put
in
there
at
this
moment.
AS
AT
You
know,
I'm
I'm
100
in
favor
of
this
RV
Resort
I've
got
a
couple
reasons.
One
of
those
reasons
is
bringing
the
city
water
down
Vallejo.
As
I've
heard.
You
know,
water's
a
big
problem
and
I
live
on
this
Lane
and
so
I
know
that
that's
very
much
the
case
about
a
month
ago,
our
well
went
dry
and
took
us
four
days
to
figure
out
what
was
going
on
living
four
days
without
water,
your
house,
it's
kind
of
scary.
You
start
going
through
oh
What's,
it
gonna
cost.
AT
AT
Well,
when
you
already
got
one
and
so
having
the
ability,
if
it
ever
happened
again
or
I,
did
have
to
drill
another
well
to
be
able
to
tap
into
the
city
to
save
money
and
not
spend
the
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
I
don't
have
laying
around
for
something
like
that
would
be
really
huge.
AT
Another
is
my
house
was
one
of
those
properties
that
was
semi-close
to
where
that
fire
was
I
was
out
of
town
I've
got
horses
on
the
property
dogs,
goats.
You
know
it's
scary
when
to
think
about
losing
your
house
plus
your
animals,
your
pets,
stuff,
like
that
so
having
the
fire
hydrants
in
a
very
close
spot
to
that
I
think
would
also
be
very
beneficial
for
my
house
and
everybody
else
on
the
lane.
AT
Let's
see
also,
as
they've
mentioned,
they're
going
to
put
in
they're
going
to
widen
the
road
six
feet.
Wider.
Add
three
foot
shoulders
on
both
sides
right
now.
If
you
drive
up
that
lane,
the
three
foot
shoulders
that
are
supposed
to
be
there
aren't
really
there
so
I.
Just
think
that
it'll
help
the
Vallejo
Road
and
the
people
that
live
on
it
have
a
safer,
safer
Lane.
AT
Let's
see
you
know,
the
last
thing
is
the
biggest
thing
for
me
and
that's
the
affordability
for
people.
You
know
I'm
fortunate
enough
to
own
a
home
on
some
land
and
and
live
there.
Not
that's
not
the
case
for
everybody
and
I
think
this
is
great
for
the
community,
especially
with
the
price,
the
average
price
of
a
home
in
Boise
at
550
000
right
now
and
with
current
interest
rates.
AT
That
comes
out
to
be
just
shy
of
four
thousand
dollar
a
month
mortgage,
and
you
know
that
puts
to
get
qualified
for
something
like
that
means
you
got
to
make
ten
thousand
dollars
or
more
a
month
and
which
comes
out
to
62.50
an
hour
and
that's
just
not
possible
for
everybody,
so
at
the
end
of
at
the
end
of
this
I'm
in
full
support
and
I,
think
it's
a
great
option
for
this
community
for
people
that
are
in
need.
AT
AU
AU
I
work
in
the
hair
industry
and
I
have
countless
clients
that
have
their
kids
married
kids
living
with
them
because
they
can't
afford
I
also
have
clients
that
have
kids
that
have
bought
RVs
that
have
had
to
find
places
to
park
them,
so
they
can
live
and
have
a
home
to
live
in.
So
in
the
end,
I'm
fully
in
support
of
something
like
this.
AV
How's
it
going,
my
name
is
Heath
brisby
I
live
at
6205
Southeast,
8th,
Avenue
Caldwell
I
am
here
to
I'm
a
custom
home
builder.
I
build
beautiful
homes
for
people
I
currently
rent
a
home
just
always
seems
to
be
just
a
little
bit
out
of
our
reach
or
whatever
I
come
from
a
large
farm
family
and
Payette
Payette
County
I
live
in
one
of
my
families,
old
farm
houses.
We
just
can't
quite
my
wife's
a
nurse
I
build
houses.
I
can't
afford
to
build
in
this
type
of
economy.
AV
R
R
I
had
a
chance
to
meet
with
the
developer
and
I
think
that
they're
putting
their
rifle
forward.
They're
they're
not
looking
to
make
these
permanent
spots
forever.
Most
of
the
people
that
we
help
through
our
transitional
housing
process
need
about
six
months
in
order
to
get
on
their
feet
and
get
into
a
permanent
place
to
live,
and
so
for
that
I
think
having
that
six
month
to
a
year.
That's
the
right,
the
right
balance,
of
course,
always
having
some
short-term.
R
You
know:
I
myself,
love
to
RV
I
love
to
get
on
the
road
and
can't
have
any
family
come
here
because,
as
you
have
heard,
there's
no
place
for
them
to
put
their
RV.
So
that's
always
difficult,
but
I
just
would
like
to
say
I
encourage
you
to
support
this
program,
support
this
this
project
and
pass
it
on
through
to
the
commission.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
AW
J
Benjamin
2241,
West,
White,
Law,
Drive,
Meridian,
Idaho
I,
currently
live
in
Meridian,
but
I've
recently
purchased
a
chunk
of
land
that
is
directly
in
the
Impact
Zone
of
this
development.
AW
This
is
a
chunk
of
property
that
I
purchased
within
10,
to
build
a
home
for
my
family
and
raise
my
family
there
and
looking
into
this
or
listening
to
all
these
arguments
tonight
and
really
being
educated
on
from
both
sides.
So
I
try
and
look
at
both
perspectives
and
and
weigh
it.
For
me,
as
I
haven't
I
haven't
heard,
you
know
all
the
the
adverse
versus
all
the
people
that
are
for
it.
AW
I
think
the
biggest
thing
that
stands
out
for
me
in
this
project
is
the
willingness
and
openness
to
listen
and
to
take
in
account
the
thing
the
people
that
are
in
opposition
of
it
I'm
greatly
for
this
project,
I
think
raising
a
family
next
to
a
very
high-end
RV
resort
is
far
better
than
raising
a
family
next
to
a
gun
range
I
think
that
it's
been
brought
up
several
times
over
and
over
and
over
again
about
the
lead
mitigation
and
all
that
process
and
and
the
concern
about
the
contamination
into
the
canal.
AW
In
my
opinion,
they'll
be
far
more
or
they're
currently
is
far
more
contamination
right
now,
with
a
lead
washing
straight
down
than
there
would
be
in
an
RV
park
like
this,
an
RV
Resort
I
have
personally
I
have
a
brother.
He
spoke
tonight
that
that
use
this
as
a
stepping
stone
in
his
life
to
be
able
to
get
on
his
feet
to
be
able
to
save
money,
to
be
able
to
get
into
a
house
what
a
fantastic
way
to
to
get
people
on
their
feet
from
any
walk-up
life.
AW
To
be
able
to
take
that
stepping
stone
and
propel
them
into
being
able
to
buy
a
house
in
this
insane.
Market
I'm,
also
a
business
owner
I
own,
a
landscape
company
and
what
a
massive
issue
that
is
presented
throughout
throughout
my
employees
and
through
throughout
a
lot
of
people
that
we
service.
Obviously
there's
lots
of
hard-working
Americans
that
we
work
with.
AW
You
know
every
single
day
in
different
trades
and
there's
always
always
a
common
occurrence
when
we're
talking
and
it's
always
about
how
astronomically
expensive
the
houses
are,
that
we're
working
on
and
how
astronomically
expensive
it
is
to
be
able
to
buy
a
home
right
now,
I've
been
fortunate
to
be
able
to
buy
a
home
myself
but,
like
I,
said
I'm
directly
in
the
Impact
Zone
and
find
it
far
more
important
to
help
those
people
that
are
struggling
to
get
on
their
feet
or
that
just
need
that
stepping
stone
to
be
able
to
make
it.
AX
My
name's
Austin
fenstermaker
I
live
at
8073
South
coverage
Lane
over
in
Boise
I'm,
in
full
support
of
this,
as
Trey
mentioned,
there's
people
that
need
affordable
housing,
I'm
one
of
those
people
and
the
fact
that
I
live
with
my
brother-in-law
work
70
plus
hours
a
week
still
can't
manage
it.
This
is
a
great
option.
I
can
be
close
to
those
guys
and
friends
that
live
up
there
too.
Don't
have
to
move
clear
over
to
Nampa
and
drive
an
hour
back
and
forth
to
see
them
like
I,
said
I'm
in
full
support
of
it.
AX
AY
Good
evening,
thank
you
for
being
here
I'm
trying
to
look
at
this
okay,
so
my
name
is
Sarah
Holm
and
I
live
at
8073
South
Covey,
Ridge
Lane
in
Boise
I,
am
in
full
support
of
this
project.
I
currently
live
with
my
sister
and
brother-in-law
and
boyfriend
who
just
spoke.
It
is
pretty
much
not
an
option
to
try
and
buy
a
house
right
now
if
I
would
have
known
four
years
ago
that
this
would
be
what
the
market
looks
like.
I
would
have
tried,
18
years
old,
to
get
approved
for
a
house.
AZ
Hi,
my
name
is
Macy
Griffin
752,
West,
Heather,
Ridge,
Drive
I,
stand
before
you
today
to
testify
and
support
of
the
application
to
approve
the
Ridgeview
RV
Resort,
my
husband
and
I
are
called
students.
We
moved
back
to
Idaho
last
year
after
a
six-month
work
contract
in
Texas
to
say,
finding
a
place
to
live
was
nearly
impossible
would
be
an
understatement.
As
newlyweds
there
was
no
way
we
would
be
able
to
afford
an
apartment.
AZ
As
we
were
running
out
of
opportunities
we
applied
and
we
got
accepted
to
BYU
and
thought
we
would
have
to
be
outpriced
and
move
to
Utah.
We
are
people
of
faith
and
we
knew
whatever
would
happen
would
happen
for
a
reason.
The
impression
came
to
us
to
look
at
short-term
renting
in
an
RV
Tara
lockley
were
one
of
the
last
people
to
be
accepted
in
the
Center
Point
RV
Park
in
Nampa,
which
has
been
full
ever
since
they
now
have
a
waiting
list.
AZ
Two
years
out,
while
we
lived
at
the
RV
Resort,
we
were
for
our
six
months.
Our
neighbors
were
doctors
and
nurses,
linemen
and
construction
workers,
teachers
and
paramedics.
This
park
will
provide
transitional
stays
for
People,
Like,
Us,
hard-working
goal-orient
and
future
minded
people.
This
RV
Resort
needs
your
support.
Thank
you.
G
The
there's
been
a
lot
of
comments
about
access
the
access
on
on
Vallejo
road
that
that
road
is
designated
as
a
arterial
and
it's
certainly
we
aren't
over
a
classing
that
road
with
the
number
of
vehicles
we
are
going
to
widen
the
road.
We
will
need
ADHD
requirements
for
a
road
that
will
take
that
capacity
of
yellow
water.
G
We
are
extending
that
water
there's
a
current
Main
Line
in
Coal
Road,
we'll
extend
it
from
coal
to
the
project
site
I,
believe
that
will
be
a
12
inch
line,
and
so
there
will
be
plenty
of
water.
I
am
not
exactly
sure
where
the
wells
are,
but
I
believe
they
are
mile
or
so
South.
In
a
different
aquifer.
G
There
is
a
water
tank
up
on
a
higher
Bluff
to
the
West
near
Coal,
Road
that
that
water
is
sourced
from
and
so
concerns
about,
the
water
table.
I
I
guess
it's
Viola
I
have
a
hard
time
with
that
name.
They
would
have
had
to
submit
a
facilities
plan
to
DEQ
and
all
that
stuff
would
have
been
looked
at
for
them
to
to
drill
those
Wells
and
that
that
facilities
plan
is
available
for
the
public.
G
So
if
they're
concerned
about
the
capacity
or
or
what
Fiel
is
doing,
they
can
records,
request
that
and
get
the
information
on
how
that
will
affect
their
water
table
as
far
as
mitigation
of
the
lead
there's
different
various
ways
to
do
it,
there's
a
question
about
that.
G
It's
very
similar
to
loosing
gold,
where
they
either
vibratory
Shake
the
material
and
it
falls
out
or
they
could
loose
it
with
with
water,
regardless
of
that
we'll
be
under
the
requirements
of
the
Department
of
Environmental
Quality
to
make
sure
that
dust
is
kept
on
site
and
that
that's
mitigated.
According
to
the
current
rules,
we
would
be
willing
to
do
a
perimeter
fence
keep
trespassers
from
various
Farm
farms,
and
access
off
the
site
would
be
very
limited.
G
G
If
it's
allowed
to
proceed,
every
every
requirement
of
the
governing
bodies
will
be
able
to
meet
their
requirements
and
with
that
I'd
like
to
stand
for
any
questions.
A
BA
My
name
is
Phil
Van
Sickle
I'm,
with
the
South
call
neighborhood
association.
I
live
at
6228,
South
lydigo
Drive,
not
very
far
from
this
well
I
recognize
the
need
for
affordable
housing
in
the
valley
and
I
have
I
know.
People
live
in
RVs
I'm,
sorry,
but
this
is
not
the
place
to
do
it
towards
South
Cole
Road.
It
turns
into
a
narrow,
two-lane
road
and
when
you
get
on
Vallejo,
that's
a
peaceful
two-lane
road
that
right
now
doesn't
even
have
a
center
line.
BA
It
disturbs
the
Tranquility
of
this
area.
This
RV
park
does
not
fit
the
character
of
this
neighborhood,
which
is
currently
properties
that
are
multiple
five
plus
Acre
Properties
they're,
like
little
far
mats
and
ADHD,
says
over
a
thousand
plus
additional
trips
per
day.
That's
going
to
make
this
road
a
whole
heck
of
a
lot
busier
and
the
back
of
South
Coal,
which
is
already
seeing
a
ton
of
development
with
local
and
margotio
Farms
coming
in
and
imagine
this
is
a
dead
end.
AJ
K
My
name
is
Jay
prevette
I
live
at
9251,
South,
Talon
Lane,
and
where
that
woman
just
was
thrown
20
feet
in
the
air,
went
through
a
windshield
and
everything
I
can't
even
begin
to
tell
you
how
that's
impacted
me.
This
I,
like
RVS
I,
like
fifth
wheels
I
like
trailers,
I
understand
these
young
people
and
everything
else
and
I'm
I
totally
am
empathetic
to
what
they're
trying
to
say,
I
thoroughly
do
not
believe
I
came
here,
I
didn't
know
whether
I
fought
or
against
it.
K
You
guys
wide
and
told
Cole
Road
to
four
lanes
and
and
get
that
in
we
got
bicyclers
out
there
all
the
time
we
got
joggers
out
there
all
the
time
we
can't
handle
this
there's
a
whole
lot
of
work.
That
needs
to
be
done
before.
Something
like
this
could
happen.
I've
always
thought
at
Black
Creek
in
the
Black
Creek,
and
the
freeway
would
be
a
great
place
for
a
place
like
this,
but
this
is
not
one
of
them.
Thank
you.
Thank.
BB
Thank
you
all.
For
your
time
tonight,
I'm
Jan,
Peterson
I,
live
at
5960,
Holly
Lynn,
Drive,
Holly
Lynn
is
a
designated
as
a
local
residential
Road.
It's
two
lanes
at
the
end
of
Cole
Road,
which
is
also
a
dead
end
and
Vallejo,
is
a
dead
end.
So
you
have
a
lot
of
traffic
that
doesn't
have
anywhere
else
to
go
other
than
down
Holly
Lynn.
BB
The
achd
report
that
I'm
sure
you've
all
read
thought
that
it
could
increase
about
500
trips
per
day
on
Holly
Lynn,
which
again
has
no
sidewalks.
No
lighting.
Coal
Road
is
two
lanes
with
no
sidewalks
no
lighting
at
night.
It's
very
dark
out
there
in
the
achd
traffic
was
based
on
current
traffic.
Today
we
have
another
2
000
homes
being
built
at
local,
we'll
have
more
homes
being
built
right
on
Coal,
Road
and
I.
BB
Think
when
you
take
into
account
that
tremendous
growth
to
have
something
like
an
RV
park
in
an
which
is
an
incompatible
use
in
this
area,
just
is
not
in
the
best
interest
of
everything.
I,
too,
understand
the
problem
with
the
housing
and
the
affordability
issues,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
probably
really
wonderful
places
that
this
project
would
be
an
asset
to
the
community.
It's
just
not
in
this
location.
BC
BC
It
just
gives
me
chills
because
I'm
thinking,
that's
an
accident
waiting
to
happen
100
times
over
and
the
amount
of
traffic
that
would
generate
like
I,
said
it's,
it's
the
wrong
venue
for
that
location.
I
agree.
We
need
the
housing,
but
in
that
particular
area,
because
of
that
topography,
I'm
really
concerned
and
I
am
opposed
to
the
project.
BD
My
name
is
Dakota
Atkinson
I
live
at
955,
South
Muscovy,
Avenue,
83642
I'm
for
the
project.
I
keep
hearing
a
lot
about
how
this
place
is
incompatible
with
the
area
and
how
there
are
traffic
issues,
but
the
proposal
for
the
park
has
been
there
to
accommodate
for
that
extra
traffic
and
better
improve
the
current
road
issues
there.
BD
BE
BE
Hi,
my
name
is
Parker
Griffin
I
live
at
8073,
South,
Covey,
Ridge,
Lane,
Boise,
Idaho,
sorry
for
my
appearance,
I
actually
raced
over
here
from
work.
Oh
I
draw
the
speed
limit,
but
I
came
over
here
straight
from
work
and
I'm,
a
well
driller,
actually
and
so,
and
actually
funny.
This
morning
my
boss
told
me
that
he
he's
like
you
live
over
on
Vallejo
Road
right,
I
told
him
yeah
he's
like
well,
you
know
over.
There
is
going
dry
right
now.
BE
The
wells
and
so
they've
been
doing
a
lot
of
different
stuff
over
there.
My
company
that
I
worked
for
has
been
going
and
they've
been
done,
tests
and
stuff
over
in
this
area,
and
so
he
actually
told
me
about
this
this
morning
and
so
I'm
I'm
for
it
I
believe
that
bringing
over
access
closer
to
where
I
live
to
have
water
would
be
a
benefit.
BE
I,
don't
see
the
downside
for
that
that
I
would
make
it
so
that
we
would
in
the
future,
when
the
wells,
if
they
do
go
dry,
then
we'd
have
access
to
that.
BE
I
personally
have
lived
in
a
trailer
with
my
wife
and
that's
been
a
an
amazing
opportunity
for
us,
because
it's
allowed
us
to
be
able
to
save
a
lot
of
money,
our
monthly
expense
on
our
trailers.
Only
360
dollars
a
month,
which
is
a
lot
better
than
the
1500
1600
1700
we've
been
looking
at
elsewhere
and
anywhere.
That's
anywhere.
Cheaper
is
way
out
of
the
way
where
we're
not
anywhere
near
where
all
of
our
families,
because
we're
native
idahoans,
we
have
all
of
our
family
living
over
here.
And
it's
just.
BE
We
really
like
the
idea
of
having
this
RV
Resort
over
in
this
area,
because
it
will
make
it
a
lot
easier
for
people
like
myself,
who
are
just
starting
out
in
life
and
I'm
married
I.
I
can't
afford
to
live
in
a
house
like
that.
Like
they've,
there
had
been
previous
statements
about
the
cost
of
how
much
you
have
to
be
making
to
be
able
to
afford
a
house.
BE
I,
don't
plan
on
stepping
foot
on
any
Farmer's
land.
I,
don't
plan
on
trespassing
like
that
is
not
me
and
I
actually
have
four
other
cousins
that
also
are
living
in
trailers
and
I
can
tell
you
that
each
one
of
those
people
are
also
good.
Honest
people
I
can't
speak
for
all
RV
owners,
but
I
don't
look
at
myself
as
white
trash
and
I.
Don't
look
at
the
other
people
who
also
are
RV
owners
as
white
trash
or,
as
some
might
put
it.
So.
Thank
you.
BF
Hi
I'm
Michaela
Runyan
I
live
at
394,
West
playground,
Street
Kuna
Idaho
over
in
Kuna
right
now.
People
keep
getting
in
trouble
because
they're
parking
trailers
on
the
sides
of
our
roads,
all
up
and
down
between
us
and
Swan
Falls,
and
there
is
a
need
for
like
people
to
be
located,
I've
been
noticing
that
all
along
gallenfield,
like
you
mentioned
too,
because
people
don't
have
a
place
to
go
and
we've
nailed
that
down
hard.
So
I
don't
mean
to
speak
on
that.
BF
But
I
do
want
to
speak
on
the
fact
that
that
area
is
being
represented
as
an
area
that
this
is
unfit
to
be
at,
but
I
used
to
live
within
a
mile
of
there
and
since
I've
lived
there
five
years
ago,
there's
been
so
much
development
that
has
come
in
and
there
is
a
walkable
grocery
store.
There
is,
you
know,
McDonald's
and
all
these
different
places
that
are
coming
in
and
I
know
being
a
local
native
to
Idaho.
BF
But
change
is
happening
and
we
need
to
also
accommodate
our
local
Idaho
people
as
they
try
to
find
housing
options
available
in
that
six
to
one
year
timeline
that
they're
thinking
people
will
be
there.
We
can
really
give
Idaho
a
choice
to
start
actually
living
here
and
not
being
forced
out
not
doing
remote
jobs
elsewhere,
not
moving
out
of
our
our
state,
because
that's
what
is
happening
right
now
and
that's
what's
being
faced,
is
an
option
for
me.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time.
Thank.
AE
Yes,
Mr
Vice
chair
for
the
Mr
Griffin's
presentation,
I'll
be
entering
to
the
record,
as
exhibit
94.
C
Mr
Danielson
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
clarify
with
this
whole
project.
If
the
owners
were
to
sell
the
land,
would
the
commercial
designation
still
carry
with
that
and
then,
if
so,
what
other
neighborhood
commercial
uses
are
allowable
under
the
C1
use?
Since
to
me
and
RV,
you
know
this
RV
Resort,
it's
not
like
there's
a
lot
of
built
infrastructure,
building
wise
associated
with
this.
So.
AE
Mr
Vice
chair
and
commissioner
X,
and
so
with
this
project,
there's
a
development
agreement
that
would
be
associated
with
it
so
with
this
particular
project.
If
this
was
to
get
approved,
they
would
have
a
development
agreement
and
with
the
development
agreement
they
would
have
a
site
planned
for
the
recreational
vehicle
park
that
they'd
have
to
comply
with.
So
if
somebody
wanted
to
do
a
different
use
on
the
property,
they
would
then
have
to
go
through
another
application
process.
AE
In
order
to
do
that,
so
they
may
have
the
the
rezone
for
the
C1,
the
neighborhood
commercial,
where
they
would
likely
have
to
do
a
Master's
site
they
would
have
to
basic.
The
zoning
is
tied
to
the
development
agreements
with
the
development
agreements
tied
to
what
gets
approved
here
so
awesome.
Thank
you.
A
AG
AG
AG
A
lot
of
it
was
mentioned
earlier,
we're
hearing
a
lot
of
problems,
but
not
very
many
solutions.
This
project
directly
brings
in
Solutions
major
Solutions
Traffic
Solutions
Water
Solutions,
Safety
Solutions
beautifying
the
area
to
go
through
a
list,
as
I
was
taking
notes,
mention
long-term
stays
being
permanent.
This
will
not
be
the
case
we
are,
it
will
be
set
that
we're
going
to
have
it
where
they
have
to
switch
spaces.
That's
going
to
be
part
of
the
agreement
mentioned
that
it
would
not
be
an
improvement
to
the
area
and
I
just
would
disagree.
AG
Water
access,
fire
suppression,
lead
mitigation
and
Road
lengthening
are
all
improvements
that
are
essential
and
necessary,
especially
now
for
the
area
mentions
well,
Wells
drying
up
violia
said
they
would
not.
This
would
not
have
an
impact
on
their
shallow
water
wells.
That's
what
they
said
in
the
email
when
they
came
into
agreement
with
us,
we're
going
to
bring
in
24
inch,
not
12,
inch
24
inch
water
lines
through
it's
going
to
be
a
huge
infrastructure
investment.
AG
It's
going
to
be
a
major
cost
for
the
owner,
but
he's
willing
to
sacrifice
that
to
have
the
project
go
through
as
well
as
see
a
betterment
for
him,
his
family
and
the
community.
Trespassing
was
mentioned
as
we
we
said
before,
there
will
be
staff
on
site
24
hours
a
day.
This
is
something
that
we'll
take
seriously
if
need
be,
we'll
put
up,
no
trespassing
signs
or
whatever
mitigation
that
there
will
be
when
it
comes
time.
If
we're
we're
aware
of
situations
of
trespassing,
those
people
aren't
welcome
there.
AG
It
was
mentioned
by
somebody
who
currently
stays
in
a
park
that
you
have
to
have
a
certain
standard
and
we're
going
to
keep
that
standard.
These
are
new
new
RVs.
These
aren't
trashy
units.
These
are
people
willing
to
impact
the
community
positively,
not
somebody
that's
going
to
drive
down
the
economy
or
bring
in
negative
repertoire
for
the
project
or
the
development
sewage,
hitting
the
the
canal
or
lead
hitting
the
canal.
Currently,
it's
still
shotgun
range.
We
want
to
mitigate
that.
We
want
to
move
forward,
it's
been
there
since
the
60s.
AG
We
want
to
clean
up
the
area,
we
want
to
beautify
the
area
and
we
want
to
ensure,
especially
with
DEQ
in
Central,
District,
Health,
being
a
part
of
that
discussion.
We
want
to
make
sure
it
continues
to
stay
above
par
and
parking.
Each
unit
will
be
allotted
two
spaces
for
vehicles,
that's
trucks,
those
are
full
Vehicles.
It's
been
a
part
of
our
plan,
it's
a
part
of
the
measurements,
and
it
will
be
able
to
contain
that
I
just
want
to
real
quickly.
AG
I
am
one
of
those
people
that
had
the
transition
from
an
RV,
a
39-foot,
Palomino
Puma,
and
the
model
was
a
31
fkrk.
If
anyone
wants
to
look
it
up
for
six
months,
why
do
we
do
this?
My
wife
and
I
went
wanted
to
go
to
college
and
we
wanted
to
pay
out
right.
We
didn't
want
to
have
debt,
we
worked
hard
and
we
found
an
option
to
help
us
do
that.
I
graduated
in
May
she
graduates
at
next
fall
and
I
plan
to
attend
law
school
next
fall.
AG
F
Address
Justin
Griffin,
2988,
South,
Slate,
Creek,
Way
I
had
a
lot
to
share
and
I'll
keep
it
short.
You
know,
I
was
born
and
raised
born
here
in
the
valley
and
love
it
I
was
raised.
My
kids
here
and
I've
done
some
developing
and
the
problem
is,
is
there's
no
place
for
our
kids
to
go?
My
kids
there's
nothing
for
them
to
do
it's
just
it's
just
outpriced.
It
just
doesn't
work
for
them
anymore,
and
that's
why
I'm
passionate
about
this?
My
son
lives
right
off.
Vallejo,
my
parents.
F
We
used
to
have
a
lot
five
acres
right
off,
Vallejo,
I
love
this
area.
I
want
to
make
this
area
better
and
it's
like
the
location,
location,
I,
get
that
and
it
was
Brent
that
showed
me
he's
a
NIMBY
and
I'm
like
what's
NIMBY
he's
like
not
in
my
backyard.
Nobody
wants
anything
in
their
backyard
and
you
can
put
it
way
out
in
the
middle
of
the
desert,
but
there's
no
water
in
the
middle
of
the
desert.
If
it's
good
property,
that's
got
accessibility
and
all
the
sewer
and
water
and
everything
there.
F
The
developers
there's
just
no
money
in
this
they'll
make
10
times
more
money.
Turning
into
subdivisions.
That's
why
there's
no
RV
parks,
and
so
we've
got
to
go
out
far
enough
and
when
you
go
up
far
enough,
you're
going
to
be
in
areas
that
have
got
cows
and
cattle,
but
we're
also
close
enough
and
it's
going
to
cost
a
lot,
but
we're
going
to
bring
the
facilities
the
water
to
us.
F
We
want
to
make
this
work
we're
going
to
make
it
beautified
and
I
want
to
make
a
place
for
my
kids
and
my
grandkids
to
build
this
day
and
I
want
to
make
a
difference
in
this
community.
We
don't
need
300
units,
we
need
3
000
units
in
this
area,
but
I
feel
like
this
is
a
step
in
the
right
direction
and
I
believe
this
is
a
great
location
and
it's
it's
close
to
town
and
it's
able
to
be
serviced
and
it's
going
to
make
it
a
much
better
place.
F
I
appreciate
being
here
tonight,
this
RV
Resort
needs
your
support.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Mr
Griffin.
A
A
D
I
I
everybody
to
go
along
with
everybody.
There
is
a
problem
with
affordable
housing
and,
as
somebody
mentioned
this
is
this
is
a
nice
solution.
It's
just
misplaced
I
was
thinking
about
the
purpose
of
a
comp
plan
and
the
zoning
laws
are
and
it's
to
let
it's
the
control
development
or
manage
development
in
this
area.
D
When
you're
talking
about
how
fast
things
are
building
well,
the
comp
plan
is:
is
there
to
try
to
manage
that,
so
that
the
infrastructure
can
somewhat
keep
up
with
the
growth
that
goes
on,
and
this
is
just
plunked
out
there
right
now,
just
on
the
edge
of
of
the
of
civilization
in
in
some
terms,
it's
not
a
compatible
used
with.
What's
surrounding
it,
it
doesn't
comply
with
we're
asking
to
make
a
change
to
the
comprehensive
plan
and
to
change
the
zoning,
so
I
think
when
we
get
to
that
point,
it's
got
to
be.
D
We
got
to
have
a
really
good
reason
to
do
that,
because
it's
going
to
be
changing
that
area.
It's
going
to
be
making
having
a
very
large
impact
on
the
area
we're
relying
on
on
septic
out
there.
D
You
could
bring
water
in,
but
we're
still
relied
on
septic
for
a
very
large
development,
again
the
infrastructure
and
the
roads,
of
course,
into
traffic
one
way
and
one
way
out,
but
as
far
as
shopping
schools,
everything
else
that's
out
there.
It's
it's
just
not
prepared
for
that
kind
of
a
development
and
again
it
doesn't
conform.
D
And
again
the
the
comp
plan
is
there
to
try
to
manage
the
growth
and
I
think
we
can
make
some
changes,
but
we're
jumping
from
changing
this
from.
Was
it
rural,
Rural,
Preservation
to
narrative
commercial?
That's
a
huge
jump
from
one
to
the
next,
so
I
think
we
should
deny
this
project
at
this
time.
A
A
I
I
think
this
is
a
fantastic
project.
I,
like
your
ideas
and
I
mean
presented
very,
very
well.
To
be
honest,
it
was
probably
one
of
the
best
presentations
I've
seen
in
a
long
time,
but
I
I
have
to
I
can't
go
against
the
comp
plan.
In
my
opinion,
I'm
in
the
house,
billing
industry
I'm
in
all
that
I
understand
that
I
understand
the
problems
that
we're
facing
out
here
in
the
valley
with
my
kids
and-
and
you
know,
I
worry
about
them
at
the
same
thing.
I
You
know
the
affordable
thing,
I
think
that
that
it's
going
to
be
tough
for
these
kids
and
it's
it's
horrible.
To
be
honest,
you
know
you
want
the
best
for
your
kids
and
with
that
being
said,
I
would
definitely
recommend
find
another
location
for
this
thing
because
I
it's
it's
fantastic.
It's
a
fantastic
opportunity
for
these
kids
that
are
coming
out
of
college
like
yourself
and
to
get
get
a
good
foot
on
the
ground,
and
this
is
still
a
great
place
to
live.
It's
an
awesome
place
to
live.
I
You
know
and
I
just
can't
see
going
against
the
comp
plan
and
you
know
I'm
I'm
agreeing
with
denial
but
I
I.
Think
10
of
these
would
be
fantastic
to
be
honest
in
the
right
location,
for
these
kids
to
come
up
and
be
able
to
grow
and-
and
you
know,
there's
nothing
better
than
a
kid
coming
out
of
college
and
not
having
all
the
debt
and
being
able
to
save.
You
know
so.
I
mean
again
great
presentation.
C
C
C
C
Think
that
is
a
big
misconception
yeah,
unfortunately,
I
just
think
this
is
too
dramatic
of
a
change
in
the
wrong
location
of
the
county,
for
it
to
be
something
that
could
fit
long-term.
Unfortunately,.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner,
Axton
and
I
have
to
say
I
agree
with
everything.
That's
been
said
by
the
commissioner's
hair.
The
presentation
was
excellent
and
I
remind
everybody
if
you
were
not
already
aware
we're,
not
the
final
decision
maker,
that
a
decision
of
this
body
can
be
appealed
to
the
board
of
County
Commissioners.
A
There
are
the
arguments
in
favor
were
very
strong
and
the
arguments
against
were
very
strong.
I'll
get
his
name
wrong
again
here,
but
Mr
Rock,
roar,
I
think
summed
it
up
very
nicely.
There's
compelling
reasons
to
have
this
type
of
project
in
this
area,
but
there's
compelling
reasons
also
for
it
not
to
be
in
this
location,
and
so
I'm
also
opposed
to
it.
A
So,
given
that
Commissioners
anything
else
before
we
call
for
a
vote
all
right,
there's
a
motion
on
the
floor,
and
so
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye,
aye
and
I
say
aye,
and
that
is
unanimous.
Thank
you
very
much.
We
appreciate
the
patience
of
everybody
here.
We
know
it's
been
a
long
night.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
also
for
your
recognition
of
Miss
Sanders
I'm
sure
that
was
appreciated.
Thank
you
and
good
night.
AI
A
E
Right,
thank
you,
chairman
Commissioners,
or
vice
chair
and
Commissioners,
and
thanks
for
winging
it
there
at
the
last
minute
when
commissioner
was
unable
to
join
us,
remotely
I
really
appreciate
you
guys
being
able
to
adapt.
E
I
think
we
have
to
wait.
We
haven't
adjourned.
A
V
E
Adjourn
so
at
the
hearing
last
night
we
had
a
few
items
actually
quieter
than
most
months
lately,
which
has
been
nice.
So
first
was
a
variance
for
private
road
to
allow
a
private
road
to
intersect
another
Private
Road.
E
This
is
out
in
the
Black
Creeks
area
to
make
a
40
acre
parcel
buildable
for
a
new
single
family
home
that
was
approved
by
the
board
Boise
Hunter
homes,
with
the
school
site
that
you
saw,
the
comp
plan,
Amendment
and
development
agreement
Amendment
and
the
vacation
that
you
made
recommendation
on,
which
was
a
recommendation
of
denial.
The
board
actually
did
recommend
approval
of
that
at
a
previous
meeting
and
I.
E
Think
Brent
may
have
actually
recapped
that
for
you
they
tabled
that
last
night
we've
been
working
through
some
condition:
language
on
the
type
of
school
that
would
fit
on
that
site.
It
used
to
only
be
West
day
data.
Now
it's
West
data,
maybe
a
charter,
and
so
there's
some
back
and
forth
that
our
legal
team
is
working
through
on
that
one.
But
we
anticipate
wrapping
that
one
up
next
month.
E
There
was
also
the
subdivision
off
of
Duck
alley
that
you
spent
some
time
with
the
15
lot
project
on
the
former
Children's
School
site,
I
think
I'm,
giving
it
might
be
getting
that
one
around
yeah
exactly
that
was
ultimately
approved
by
the
board,
with
some
good
conversation
about
better
connectivity
in
the
area.
There's
some
additional
public
right-of-way
that
will
be
dedicated
to
improve
some
of
those
connectivity
options.
The
board
actually
required.
A
E
E
Yeah,
so
what
ultimately
happened
were
improvements
to
duck
alley
to
widen,
duck
alley
out
to
Linder,
and
then
there
was
a
request
to
make
the
private
Street
public.
We
didn't
go
that
route
because
it
didn't
ultimately
pan
out
to
improve
connectivity,
but
there's
additional
right-of-way
dedicated
for
duck
alley
on
the
northwest
portion
of
the
site
that
opens
up
the
opportunity
for
a
new
Public
Road
through
there.
So
it
was,
it
was
good.
E
City
of
Meridian
actually
was
a
part
of
that
because
they
actually
have
an
interest
in
a
a
large
Regional
Park
in
the
area
and
they're
trying
to
make
sure
they
can
get
access
to
that.
So
a
lot
of
stakeholders
came
together.
Connor
did
a
really
great
job
kind
of
steering
that
that
big
ship
Let's
see.
We
also
had
variants
for
property
boundary
adjustment
up
in
the
Spring
Creek
area,
taking
three
platted
Lots
down
to
two
due
to
some
septic
perk
issues.
E
One
of
the
Lots
is
ultimately
unbuildable,
and
so
the
two
Property
Owners
on
the
other
side
figured
out
how
to
adjust
property
lines,
give
them
each
a
little
bit
more
space
fix
some
setback,
issues
that
they
had
so
that
was
approved
and
then
finally,
there
was
a
cell
tower
out
on
Highway
21
time
extension
for
that
originally
improved
in
2019.
So
they
did
approve
a
Time
extension
to
allow
them
an
additional
two
years
to
work
that
project
out
any
questions
on
those
before
I
move
on
to
one
other
bit
of
news.
E
You
guys
are
going
to
have
some
new
folks
on
the
diocese
with
you
here.
Hopefully
next
month,
the
board
appointed
two
new
pnz
Commissioners
Chad,
Scott,
Boise
native,
currently
works
and
I'll.
Let
him
obviously
introduce
himself
more
formally
but
currently
works
with
Department
of
Veteran
Affairs
military
veteran,
very
interested
in
serving
as
community
and
yeah
I.
Think
you'll
I
think
you'll
enjoy
him
and
then.
K
E
Ratsliff
I,
totally
probably
mispronounced
her
last
name
and
I
will
get
it
right
when
she's
at
the
hearing
next
month,
she
is
was
also
appointed.
She
ran
for
County
Commissioner
in
the
most
recent
primaries,
ultimately
didn't
get
that
election,
but
that's
where
you
may
have
seen
her
name,
so
she
was
appointed
to
the
pnz
commission
as
well,
so
we're
trying
to
get
them
oriented
and
we're
going
to
have
some
legal
discussion
with
them
in
terms
of
how
you
keep
yourself
in
a
good
place.
E
With
all
these
conversations
and
the
people
you
know
in
the
community,
which
you
guys
all
do
a
great
job
with
and
yeah,
so
we'll
have
two
more
Commissioners
next
month
and
then
we're
still
figuring
out
what
to
do
with
the
loss
of
commissioner
blitman
at
the
end
of
her
term,
which
I
think
we've
got
a
month
or
two
left
with
her
I
still
have
to
confirm
that
time.
There,
which
means
we'll
also
have
another
election
for
the
chair,
so
keep
that
stuff
in
mind.
E
If
you
are
interested
and
I
know,
some
of
you
also
have
terms
that
are
coming
up
soon.
I
know
you,
commissioner,
Birch
I
believe
you're
eligible
for
another
term
if
you're
interested
in
serving
that's,
probably
a
you
and
me
conversation
at
some
point,
but
yeah
so
we'll
have
some
change
on
this
commission
over
the
next
few
months,
but
you
guys
are
doing
great,
really
appreciate
it.