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A
Now,
okay,
so
we're
can
the
people
in
the
room
hear
me
I'll
just
make
sure
I
speak
up
and
the
it
people
give
me
a
thumbs
up.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
down
tonight
to
the
80
county
planning
and
zoning
meeting
as
we
as
we
go
through
tonight's
meeting.
We'll
have
several
items
on
the
agenda
and
we'll
ask
the
the
staff
to
present
the
project
and
then
we'll
ask
the
applicant
to
talk
about
the
project
and
then
we'll
open
the
floor
up
to
people
to
provide
their
testimony.
A
Your
testimony
tonight
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes
per
person
for
the
people
that
are
up
making
comments
on
the
application
the
applicant
has
longer
and
the
staff
has
longer
but
we'll
be
limiting
public
testimony
to
three
minutes
per
person,
and
we
appreciate
that
there
might
be
differing
opinions
in
the
room,
and
so
we
would
ask
everybody
to
maintain
respectful
of
those
differing
opinions
in
the
room.
A
A
So
now
that
the
meeting
is
is
opened,
we've
got
I'm
going
to
call
roll,
so
brenda
blittman
is
here.
Commissioner
burch
here,
commissioner,
extend
here,
commissioner
wickstrom
here
and
commissioner
coulson
here.
Thank
you
very
much
for
being
here
we're
going
to
do
a
little
bit
of
work
on
the
agenda.
To
start,
we've
got
several
items
that
have
been
asked
to
be
tabled,
and
then
we've
got
we're
going
to
reorganize
the
agenda
a
little
bit
based
on
some
feedback
that
we've
gotten
so
I'll
open
the
the
floor
up.
A
If
one
of
the
commissioners
wants
to
identify
the
projects
that
need
to
be
tabled
to
future
meetings,
I'd
be
open
to
that
kind
of
emotion.
Madam.
C
Chair,
commissioner,
I
would
like
to
move
project
two
zero.
Two
one:
zero:
three:
two:
zero:
nine
dash
s
dash
hd
to
the
october
13
2022
meeting
as
well
as
two
zero;
two
two
zero
one:
six,
two
four
dash
s
dash
vac
to
the
october
13th
2022
meeting
and,
lastly,
move
project:
two:
zero:
two:
two:
zero
one:
seven,
two:
eight
dash
cpa,
dash,
z,
c,
dash
d,
a
dash
c.
U
dash
msp
to
the
october
13th
meeting
of
2022.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
There's
been
a
motion
to
move
three
of
the
projects
to
the
october
13th.
The
meeting
is
there
a
second
second
from
commissioner
wickstrom,
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
any
opposed
and
let
the
minutes
reflect
that
all
the
commissioners
voted
to
table
those
three
projects
to
the
october
13th
meeting.
A
I'm
going
to
open
up
the
floor
to
to
any
motions
about
reorganizing
the
agenda.
A
A
Commissioner
coulson
second
at
that
motion,
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye.
C
A
So
let
the
minutes
reflect
that
project.
The
project's
been
moved
to
the
end
of
the
agenda,
so
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
would
be
project
number
202200987.
A
So,
thank
you
very
much.
Does
the
does
the
commission
need
to
make
any
action
on
that,
or
do
we
just
record
it
in
the
minutes
that
it's
been
withdrawn.
H
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Two
zero
two,
two
zero
one,
four
three
three
gary
holtzclaw
and
miss
sanders
is
online
and
we'll
let
her
present
this
project
and
eli
is
doing
double
duties.
I
Madam
chair
commissioners,
I
do
have
a
powerpoint
to
show
you
so
I'll
share
that
eli
is
not
letting
me
share.
I
I
They
do
have
some
conditions
of
approval.
They
will
have
to
submit
approval
from
the
meridian
fire
district
and
they
will
have
to
meet
the
the
final
plot
specifications
and
submit
that
within
24
months
of
the
board's
approval
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
plot
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
A
I
A
B
Okay,
which
is
very
simple:
I'm
gary
holtzclaw,
I'm
the
owner
of
2790,
south
mcdermott
road
and
we're
just
going
to
split
it
one
time
into
the
two
fives
since
that's
all
we
can
do
at
the
moment,
but
that's
all
we're
having
planned
because
we're
just
trying
to
build
a
house
there
for
my
son.
So
it's
just
going
to
be
a
driveway
going
back
to
a
house
on
the
northeast
corner
there.
That's
all
we're
planning
to
do.
A
K
Peter
resendiz
address
7801
east
victory,
road
nampa.
Actually,
what
I've
heard
right
now
is
sufficient.
K
I'm
a
little
bit
disappointed
that
one
of
the
other
projects
was
actually
tabled
earlier
as
there's
a
lot
of
activity
in
that
corner,
and
I
wouldn't
I
wanted
to
know
what
this
project
was
tied
into
the
other
projects
in
the
corner
of
victory
at
mcdermott
and
the
impact
that
that's
going
to
have
with
the
rest
of
our
properties.
K
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
coming.
I've
got
colton
holtzclaw.
A
A
A
H
A
No,
the
applicant,
you
get
a
chance
to
provide
any
rebuttals
if
you
want
to,
but
I
didn't
hear
any
thing
to
rebut,
but
it's
up
to
you.
It's
your
opportunity
to
provide
a
rebuttal,
we're
good,
you're,
good,
okay
and
we're
going
to
close
the
public
hearing.
There'll,
be
no
more
public
hearing
on
this
topic
and
I'll.
Ask
the
commissioners
for
a
motion
so
that
we
can
have
discussion.
Madam.
C
A
Is
there
a
second
a
second
commissioner
wickstrom
seconded
the
project,
what
kind
of
just
I'll
go
ahead
and
give
you
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
it.
C
A
I
I
And
they
are
proposing
to
split
it
in
half,
they
do
meet
the
dimensional
standards
and
we
have
not
received
any
comments
in
opposition.
They
will
have,
they
do
have
to
meet
the
ada
county,
surveyor
comments
and
they
will
have
to
meet
identify
the
easement
with
of
10
feet
shall
be
on
the
the
subdivision.
Boundaries
for
any
utilities,
drainage
and
irrigation
staff
is
recommending
of
the
recommending
approval
of
the
preliminary
plot
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Do
the
commissioners
have
any
questions?
No
questions,
no
questions.
Okay,
I
think
we'll
look
for
the
applicant.
Thank
you.
It.
J
The
applicant
is
online
and
they
are
here
one
moment,
please
all
right.
They
can
speak
now.
M
M
As
far
as
we've
discussed
as
the
the
project
meets
all
standards
set
forth
by
the
county.
The
intent
is
to
let
the
existing
residents
remain,
and
the
purpose
for
the
second
lot
would
be
the
construction
of
a
single-family
residence.
There
currently
aren't
any
planned
improvements,
however,
that
would
be
the
future
use.
M
N
M
I
can't
necessarily
speak
to
that
ben
simple
in
our
office
has
been
leading
this
project.
Unfortunately,
he
was
unable
to
make
it
to
the
meeting
tonight.
I
would
need
to
defer
to
him,
but
I
believe
that
those
have
been
resolved.
M
A
A
Okay,
any
questions
for
the
for
miss
sanders
or
for
the
applicant
from
the
from
us,
and
so
as
the
applicant,
you
get
the
opportunity
to
provide
any
immoral
comments
as
part
of
your
rebuttal.
So
if
there's
anything
else,
you'd
like
to
add
now
would
be
the
time
to
add
it.
A
A
N
Thank
you,
commissioner,
make
a
motion
to
based
on
finding
the
fact
and
conclusion
of
all
contained
you're
in
and
the
testimony
of
the
public
hearing.
I
recommend
approval
project
2022.01
427
s
to
the
board,
subject
to
conditions
of
approval
attached
in
exhibit
a
second.
A
And
there's
a
second
by
commissioner
coulson
go
ahead,
commissioner
wickstrom,
would
you
like
to
talk
about
it's.
N
Like
the
other
one's
pretty
straightforward,
there's
plenty
of
room
there,
it
makes
meets
all
of
the
requirements.
It's
consistent
with
the
area.
A
So
any
other
comments
so
I'll
call
for
a
motion.
All
those
in
favor,
say
aye
any
opposed,
say
I
I'll
say
I
and.
D
A
Let
the
minutes
reflect
that
all
of
us
voted
for
this
emotion
and
that
it
be
approved.
Okay,
the
next
one
is
two
zero.
Two
two
zero
one,
five,
six
one
s
and
it
says
noble
john
and
I
went
to
school
and
I'll
disclose
to
the
commissioners
that
I
went
to
school
in
cuna
and
there
were
a
lot
of
nobles
at
the
school
that
I
went
to
so
I
have
prior
knowledge
of
of
this
family,
but
it's
not
going
to
affect
my
decision
today.
F
Good
all
good.
Thank
you.
Madam
chair
application.
Two
zero
two,
two
zero
one.
Five
six
one
dash
s,
that's
noble
landing
subdivision
applicant
is
dan
noble.
Here
is
the
property
we're
looking
at
general
vicinity
off
mcdermott
road
king
road
kind
of
southwest
of
cuna
there?
F
This
is
another
two
lot
subdivision.
Preliminary
plot:
a
property
contains
50
acres
and
it's
addressed
at
4640,
west,
king
road,
it's
in
the
rural,
residential
or
rr
district.
So
the
applicant's
proposing
to
split
the
property
into
two
buildable
residential
lots.
Both
lots
will
be
a
minimum
of
10
acres
to
meet
the
rr
lot
size.
Minimum
lot,
one
will
maintain
existing
access
and
then
lot
two
will
have
frontage
and
access
onto
mcdermott
road.
F
We
found
that
the
subdivision
complies
with
chapter
8-6
of
the
8-accounting
code,
since
those
lots
will
meet
the
dimensional
standards.
Here
you
have
the
future
land
use
map
for
ada
county
comp
plan.
That's
been
adopted
for
this
area.
This
site
is
in
agriculture,
irrigated
land,
that's
what
it's
designated
as
and
that
is
in
compliance
or
I'm
sorry,
it's
it's
the
word
I'm
looking
for
it
meets
the
comp
plan.
D
F
Yeah,
that's
my
mistake.
They
will
be
both
be
a
minimum
of
10
acres
which
is
required.
But,
yes,
you
are
correct.
The
the
40
acre
piece
they're
just
going
to
leave
that
as
ag
land.
They
just
wanted
to
separate
it
from
this.
This
10
acre
piece
to
the
south.
Thank
you.
Yep.
J
Yes,
one
moment
please.
J
All
right
dan
noble,
you
can
speak
now.
O
Yes,
my
name
is
dan
noble.
I
live
at
204,
south
cedar
point
avenue,
nampa,
idaho
and
yeah.
This
property
is
has
been
in
the
family
for
a
number
of
years.
I'm
the
trustee
of
the
trust
that
owns
the
property,
my
father
father,
passed
away
in
2020
and
there
being
15
beneficiaries.
O
It's
unfortunate,
you
can't
keep
it
in
the
family,
but
you
look
at
what
you
can
do
to
best
maximize
the
interests
of
our
parents
as
well
as
family,
and
we
see
the
beneficial
the
greatest
benefit
in
splitting
this
property
into
the
10
acre
piece
and
40
acre
piece
with
a
family
member
having
some
interest
in
the
48
or
the
10
acre
piece.
O
But
it's
an
irrigated
ground
or
it
is
irrigated
property.
It'll
remain
in
its
present
use.
There's
with
the
irrigation
system
that
will
be
shared
with
the
owners
of
the
the
property
and
adjoining
property.
Irrigation
and
easements
are
in
place
and.
H
H
A
A
Okay,
so
there's
nobody
online
or
in
the
room.
So
any
questions
to
mr
lindstrom,
no
any
in
the
applicant
has
the
last
chance
to
provide
any
rebuttal.
So.
O
Thank
you,
I'm
I'm.
I'm
not
satisfied.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
We
appreciate
it
I'll
close
the
public
testimony
and
I'll
look
to
the
commissioners
for
a
motion
on
this
project.
A
C
A
Any
other
comments
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
call
for
the
motion,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
aye
and
I'll
say
I
and
all
those
opposed
say
I
let
the
minutes
reflect
that
all
the
commissioners
voted
for
this
project
and
it's
been
voted
to
be
approved.
So
thank
you
very
much.
A
Okay,
we'll
go
to
the
last
item
on
our
agenda
tonight,
which
is
project
number
two:
zero:
six:
zero,
zero,
seven,
one
z
c
d,
a
m
two:
zero:
two:
two:
zero
one:
two:
five
three
msp
and
peg
companies.
I
wanna
thank
the
people,
people
in
the
audience
for
patiently
letting
us
go
through
those
other
projects
and
we
didn't
wanna.
Have
people
wait
all
night
for
those
quick
projects
so
go
ahead.
Mr
lindstrom.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
You
got
that
right.
This
application
has
two
project
numbers.
The
first
is
two
thousand
six:
zero:
zero
zero
seven
one
dash
zc
dash
da
dash
m
and
20
22
0
1,
2,
5
3
msp
applicant
on
this
project
is
peg
companies.
F
So
this
is
a
zoning
ordinance
map
amendment,
a
development
agreement,
modification
and
master
site
plan,
application
to
rezone
an
11.4
acre
property
from
the
commercial
c2
district
and
the
medium
high
density,
residential
r8
district
to
the
high
density
residential
r-12
district
and
develop
130
unit.
Multi-Family
development
property
is
addressed
at
10,
975,
west
lake
hazel
road.
F
So
back
in
2006,
the
board
of
county
commissioners
approved
of
hazelwood
village
development,
known
as
application
2006,
zero,
zero,
zero
seven
one.
This
was
hazel.
The
hazelwood
village
was
in
the
planned
unit
development
overlay
district,
which
allows
flexibility
in
site
design
and
dimensional
standards,
and
so
since
2006
the
property
has
been
zoned
as
the
the
c2
commercial
zoning
and
has
sat
vacant.
Since
then,
the
applicant
proposes
to
rezone
it
now
to
the
the
r-12
district.
F
There's
two
parcels
in
question
here:
there's
the
larger
parcel,
which
is
11.23
acres,
that's
currently
the
c2
commercial
district
and
there's
a
small
little
sliver
of
a
parcel
along
the
lateral
there
on
the
very
western
property
boundary,
that's
0.17
acres,
and
so
that's
currently
the
r8
zone.
So
together
they
would
be
rezoned
to
the
r12.
F
In
addition,
the
development
agreement
modification
has
been
submitted
to
all
through
the
site
plan
and
changed
the
zoning
of
the
existing
development
agreement
that
took
place
in
2006.,
so
the
the
rezone
and
the
modification
is
alongside
the
master
site
plan.
As
I
stated
that's
for
a
multi-family
development
known
as
alante
homes
at
lockwood.
F
As
noted
in
the
applicant's
detail
letter,
they
propose
130
units
at
a
density
of
10.98
units
per
acre.
The
proposed
site
plane,
as
you
see
here,
has
50
one
bedroom,
63,
2,
bedroom
and
17
three
bedroom
homes
or
units
it'll
be
a
mix
of
attached
and
detached
homes,
each
with
a
private
yard
patio
and
then
sustainable
water,
conscious,
low
maintenance,
landscaping.
F
So
in
conjunction
with
the
master
site
plan,
it's
required
that
a
landscaping
plan
is
submitted
as
well
as
a
parking
plan
we've
staffed.
We
found
that
both
comply
with
the
ada
county
code
as
required
that
open
space
is
a
part
of
the
plan
and
the
applicant
has
provided
48
of
the
site
as
open
space
which
exceeds
a
30
requirement
and
then,
in
addition,
there's
a
proposed
297
parking
spaces
which
exceeds
the
268
parking
space
total,
and
this
includes
42
enclosed
garage
spaces
as
well
as
ada
spaces.
F
F
So
with
this
project,
as
you
probably
saw
on
your
staff
report,
we
have
significant
amount
of
comments
from
the
public
in
opposition.
There
is
agency
comments
so
of
the
southwest
ada
county
alliance
as
well.
The
city
of
boise
they're,
both
opposed
to
this
project
here,
are
some
concerns
raised.
This
is
a
summary
of
those
concerns
in
general.
I
think
the
over
overwhelming
concern
was
you
know
the
the
neighbors
in
the
area.
They
just
would
like
to
see
this
site
remain
commercial.
F
There
were
things
brought
up
that
they'd
like
to
see
restaurants
or
additional
grocery
stores
or
retail
big
box
retail?
So
a
number
of
different
things
there's
also
concerns
with
this,
just
being
an
apartment,
style,
living
situation
with
renters
coming
and
going,
and
then,
along
with
that
increase
in
traffic
noise.
F
Things
of
that
nature,
then
also
there
was
just
a
concern
too
from
the
ada
county
alliance.
They
would
like
to
see
more
connectivity
through
this
area
in
general,
from
properties
to
the
north
that
are
zone
commercial,
so
in
general
those
are
some
of
the
main
concerns
the
city
of
boise,
as
I
mentioned,
they're
also
opposed.
F
They
would
like
to
see
this
site
actually
be
even
higher
density
than
what
is
proposed,
but
also
a
mix
of
uses,
so
they'd
like
to
see
something
like
live
work
units
if
you're
familiar
with
those
high
density
above
and
then
commercial
space
below
and
then
the
highway
district.
They
were
not
opposed
to
the
project,
but
they
did
have
some
site-specific
conditions
of
approval
that
are
in
the
report.
One
of
those
is
they
would
like
an
additional
access
or
a
driveway
aisle.
F
So,
in
addition,
let's
see
here
so
ada,
county
community
and
regional
planner,
brent
moore,
noted
that
the
future
land
use
map
of
the
boise
comp
plan,
as
adopted
by
ada
county,
designates
the
site.
As
you
see
here
on
your
screen
as
mixed
use,
which
is
intended
to
include
commercial
office
and
high
density
residential
development.
F
That's
stating
that
this
is
a
community
activity
center,
and
this
is
just
from
city
of
boise's
blueprints
for
their
comp
plan
kind
of
gives
you
a
rundown
of
what
a
community
activity
center
is
and
what
they're
looking
for.
F
So
our
comp
planner
stated
that
the
proposed
rezoned
to
the
r12
high
density
residential
district
allows
for
densities
up
to
12
units
per
acre
and
it's
compatible
with
the
future
land
use
map
and,
as
noted
previously
by
the
applicant,
the
site
will
contain
10.98
dwelling
units
per
acre
staff
is
recommending
approval
with
conditions.
We
found
that
this
application
complies
with
the
code
and
will
stand
for
any
questions.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
let
the
commissioners
ask
questions.
I've
got
a
couple.
If
you
have
questions.
N
It
just
might
seem
a
little
bit
of
a
side
lap
here,
but
under
the
city
of
boise,
but
the
community
commercial,
the
zoning
they
were
gonna
get,
they
would
mention
they
wanted
a
higher
density
of
the
20
units
per
acre.
When
something
like
that
happens.
If
the
commercial
takes
up
part
of
it,
the
the
amount
of
land
that
can
be
placed
in
the
residential
can
only
be
on
it's.
The
remainder
of
whatever
is
not
commercial.
N
H
N
F
Yeah
so,
madam
chair,
commissioner
wickstrom
we
as
staff,
we
actually
met
with
the
city
of
boise.
You
know,
following
up
with
their
letter,
you
know
we
just
wanted
to
hear
them
out
to
see
what
they
were.
Looking
for
and
they've
stated
that
they
just
would
like
to
see.
This
site
specifically
uses
mixed
use.
They
would
like
to
see
that
live
work
unit
situation,
but
they
did
not
give
any
specificities
into
what
you
know.
Is
it
10
acres
of
the
site
they
want
is
commercial?
Is
it
five
acres?
F
N
Okay
and
here's
the
follow-up
as
far
as
getting
an
access
to
five
mil,
is
it
too
close
to
that
intersection,
or
is
there
a
possibility
of
actually
putting
an
access
on
five
mile.
F
Yeah
so
madam
chair
commissioner
wickstrom
based
on
the
applicants,
the
middle,
they
did
not
feel
it
would
be
a
good
thing
to
have
access
off
of
five
mile
there,
with
the
intersection
being
close
by
that
being
said,
the
highway
district.
They
are
the
governing
body
for
access,
and
you
know
right-of-way,
ingress
and
egress.
So
it's
the
highway
district
that
was
actually
stating
that
they
would
like
to
see
an
additional
access
point
for
connectivity
through
this
property
yeah.
N
E
A
H
A
F
Madam
chair,
so
the
southwest
corner
the
corner
where
this
property
is
so
just
to
the
north.
You
have
some
retail
there,
there's
a
zam's
house.
There's
a
dairy,
reed's,
dairy,
a
liquor
store,
bleep
papa
murphy's,
and
then
you
have
a
coffee
shop
as
well.
There's
also
a
convenience
store
gas
station
on
that
property
and
actually
just
to
the
northwest
of
this
site.
F
You'll
see
it's
vacant
now,
but
there
was
a
an
approved
rezone
to
commercial
for
this
property,
as
well
as
a
master
site
plan
for
in
a
development
agreement
for
multiple
restaurants
on
this
property,
as
well
as
retail,
space
and
office
space.
Many
of
those
restaurants,
I
believe,
were
or
the
drive-through
style,
like
your
mcdonald's,
if
you
will,
and
so
that's
the
most
the
property
to
the
southwest
the
northwest
corner.
F
There's
a
current
walgreens
store,
there's
a
iccu
bank
that
was
just
approved,
that's
being
built
and
then
I
believe,
there's
some
more
plans
for
potential
commercial
in
that
area,
les
schwab
or
some
sort
of
tire
service
center
to
the
northeast.
That
corner
currently
is
a
mcdonald's
it
was
approved.
I
believe
it
went
through
you
guys
and
then
there's
also
plans
for
another
future
commercial
retail
store.
Next
to
that
mcdonald's,
I
don't
believe
anything's
been
built
at
this
time
yeah.
I
definitely
know
that
just
drove
by
there
and
then
to
the
southeast
corner.
F
A
Thank
you
very
much.
It
kind
of
gives
us
a
feel
for
the
whole
neighborhood.
I
wonder
if
you
can
go
back
to
the
actual
site
plan.
If
you
could
point
out
to
me
where
the
private
park
is
because
I
didn't.
F
Find
it
when
I
was
looking
so
the
this
area
here
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
my
cursor.
F
Can
you
see
that
so
that
area?
That's
where
the
this
is
a
proposed
clubhouse
pool
area?
That's
where
the
kind
of
the
center
of
this
development
will
be
and
then
open
space
is
kind
of
throughout
they
don't
have
a
I'm
sorry.
They
don't
have
a
specific
like
large
park
proposed
hazelwood
village.
They
have
some
more
park
open
space
close
by
and
this
is
a
part
of
the
overall
hazelwood
development.
A
F
Yeah
and
when
I
stated
that
I
mean
that
was
from
the
applicant's
detail
letter,
so
I
might
have
that.
A
Apple,
I
can't
provide
more
tests
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
hadn't
missed
that
yep.
How
many
stories
are
they.
F
Yeah,
so
this
is
a
man
chair.
This
is
a
horizontal
style
apartment
complex.
If
you
will
so
these
are
all
single
units.
I
believe
that
in
the
actually
let
me
go
here.
I
have
it
pulled
up.
F
F
This
is
so
there
is
one
of
the
plans
here
shows.
It
looks
like
two
stories.
H
F
Just
one
of
the
prototypes
is
a
two-story,
I'm
sure
the
applicant
can
go
into
a
little
more
detail
on
that
as
well.
That's.
A
A
F
You
bet
the
c2,
so
this
is
more
of
the
community
commercial
and
so
it's
going
to
be
focused
on
the
community
as
a
whole,
not
necessarily
just
the
neighborhood,
so
we're
going
to
see
anything
from
albertson's.
You
know
a
lot
of
those
properties.
Next
door
are
zone
c2,
so
you
could
have
everything
from
a
big
box
store
like
a
or
a
larger
grocery
store
to
a
smaller
convenience
store
your
fast
food
drive-throughs
to
restaurants,
office
space.
I
mean
really
anything
that
you
can
think
of.
That's
commercial.
H
F
Yeah
and
and
those
daycares
is
like
I
mean
there-
are
uses
that
are
allowed
in
the
r12
zone
that
are
also
allowed
in
the
c2.
Like
a
daycare,
I
believe,
but
yeah
c2
is
definitely
focused
towards
commercial,
okay,.
A
H
A
A
Q
Okay,
great,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
this
evening
my
name
is
bonnie
layton.
I
am
a
senior
planner
with
nv5
we're
the
engineering
firm
that
is
responsible
for
the
project.
Q
I'm
here
tonight
on
behalf
of
peg
companies
representing
the
project
I'll
do
the
first
portion
of
the
project
and
then
david
bourne
with
peg
companies
will
come
up
and
give
you
a
little
bit
of
information
about
who
pick
companies
is
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
here.
So
again,
thank
you
for
your
time
this
evening
and
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
all
of
their
help
as
well.
Q
I
know
that
we've
got
what
we
believe
is
a
really
great
project
to
bring
forward
as
part
of
the
county
and
understand
that
there
are
some
concerns,
so
we'll
try
to
answer
those
this
evening
for
you,
if
you
could
flip
ahead.
Thank
you.
So,
as
you'll
see
on
your
screen,
this
is
just
a
vicinity
map
of
where
the
project
is
located.
Q
We're
kind
of
in
between
the
city
limits
of
the
city
of
meridian
and
there's
a
little
bit
of
city
limits
of
boise
kind
of
right
on
the
east.
End
of
that
slide,
it's
largely
developed
out
in
this
area,
mostly
lower
density
residential
next
slide.
Please!
Q
This
vicinity
map
actually
shows
you
what
subdivisions
are
existing
in
the
area,
so
we're
the
little
blue
rectangle
there
and,
as
connor
mentioned,
we
are
just
south
of
the
intersection
at
lake
hazel
and
five
mile
road
next
slide,
please!
Q
So
in
looking
at
this
project
and
reviewing
some
of
the
comments
that
we
did
receive
from
the
city
of
boise
and
some
from
some
other
folks,
we
really
wanted
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
context
of
what
this
project,
where
it's
located.
So
in
the
comprehensive
plan
blueprint
boise,
they
actually
discussed
this
specific
intersection.
I
think
you
saw
some
slides
from
connor
and
we
understand
that
there's
a
desire
to
have
some
additional
commercial
out
in
that
area.
Q
Q
Q
Next
slide,
please
so
the
area
that
we're
looking
at
according
to
the
comp
plan
for
the
city
of
boise
encompasses
10
square
miles.
That's
one
of
the
largest
in
the
city.
Out
of
that,
and,
as
you
maybe
saw
in
the
previous
one
of
my
previous
slides,
there's
six
percent
vacant
land
available
to
develop
out
there.
So
most
of
it's
been
developed
out
largely
at
a
lower
density.
Q
94
of
that
land
is
developed
as
single-family
residential
and
you'll
see
in
the
next
slide,
but
according
to
the
city
of
boise
neighborhood
almanac
excuse
me:
that's
1.78
dwelling
units
per
acre
out
there,
so
we're
pretty
low
density
for
the
area
in
general
and
in
terms
of
providing
a
product
mix
of
housing
out
there
we
have
14
renters
according
to
the
almanac,
which
is
well
below
the
citywide
average
of
35
renters,
so
you're.
Q
If
you're
out
there
you're
likely
in
a
single
family
home
that
you
own
very
different
than
the
demographics
next
slide,
please
that
are
some
of
the
averages.
So
we
said
how
do
we
fit
in
to
this
the
context
of
this
area
and
then
the
context
of
the
city
as
a
larger
whole,
and
when
we
looked
at
that,
we
took
the
information
from
the
almanac
and
distilled
it
down
and
sort
of
went
through
the
process
of
what's
appropriate.
Q
For
this
we
understand:
there's
a
desire
for
commercial
commercial
is
driven
by
a
number
of
roof
tops
and
density.
Currently,
there's
very
low
density
that
happens
out
there
I
happen
to
live
in
harris
ranch,
I've,
that's
a
lot
higher
density
and
I've
had
the
fortune
of
watching
that
develop
over
the
years
and
release
the
commercial
without
having
those
rooftops
has
really
struggled
just
now
after
20
years
or
more
of
watching
that
it's
starting
to
come
to
life,
but
that's
really
driven
by
the
rooftops.
Q
Next
slide,
please
so
in
these
in
the
area,
demographics.
This
is
sorted
out.
According
to
the
almanac,
the
orange
line
is
the
highest
density
area.
If
you
think
the
north
end
of
boise
is
kind
of
the
gold
standard
of
walkability
commercial,
mixed
use,
that's
the
blue
line
and
then
where
we
fit
in
down
at
the
bottom.
Q
So
in
this
area
of
town
there
is
really
a
very
low
density
and
a
low
population
base.
So
in
order
to
support
any
viable
commercial,
we
really
need
to
bring
rooftops
and
density
to
this
area.
It
will
make
the
viability
of
the
other
parcels
much
more
attractive
to
commercial
developers.
Next
slide.
Please.
Q
The
chairman
blittman,
you
had
asked
about
what
are
the
other
uses,
so
what
we
did
in
looking
at
this
area
and
what's
available
on
the
slide,
shows
that
we
have
in
the
northwest
corner
we've
got
the
walgreens,
which
is
1.74
acres.
Q
Hubble
homes
came
in
with
a
development
that
added
to
that
commercial
acreage
and
the
1.48
acres
is
where
the
bank
is
being
built
and
that
there's
some
available
pads
on
the
northeast
corner
of
this
intersection,
a
newly
constructed
mcdonald's,
you'll
notice.
In
the
original
comprehensive
plan,
this
was
actually
zoned
residential
designated.
It
wasn't
designated
as
mixed
use.
Q
I
don't
know
why
that
was,
it
seems
appropriate.
The
commercial
at
this
mcdonald's
location,
as
well
as
the
two
parcels
north
of
that
would
also
be
commercial.
That's
on
the
going
going
to
boise
side
of
the
road,
and
it's
also
separated
there's
a
canal
there
that
nicely
separates
the
two
uses,
so
there's
potential
for
future
commercial
development
in
that
northeast
quadrant,
and
then
we've
got
the
albertsons
as
connor
mentioned.
So
most
of
it's
developed
out,
the
0.89
acres
is
a
pad
site
that
is
available.
It
is
for
sale.
Q
Currently,
there's
a
taco
truck
that
operates
on
there,
maybe
eventually
there
will
be
a
bricks
and
mortar
sit
down
restaurant
once
we
get
some
more
rooftops
in
the
area
and
then
to
the
north
of
our
project.
Q
Connor
mentioned
those
uses
in
the
in
the
plot
that
was
recently
extended,
so
in
the
entire
surrounding
there's
5.13
acres
in
the
northeast
corner,
7.03
and
then
pardon
me
in
the
northwest
5.73
in
the
northeast
corner,
8.8
acres,
excluding
our
property,
that's
available
for
commercial
development
and
another
8.02
which
encompasses
the
albertson's
location,
so
quite
a
significant
amount
of
commercial
property
available
for
develop
development.
But
what
we
don't
see
is
the
mix
of
uses
in
terms
of
density.
So
that's
really
where
we're
coming
from
next
slide.
Please.
Q
So
it
just-
I
won't,
spend
too
much
time
on
this
slide,
but
conor
went
through
the
particulars
of
our
application.
One
thing
to
note
is
while
lake
hazel,
it
runs
east
west
and
has
been
developed
out,
five
mile
ends
at
the
canal,
so
that's
a
dirt
road
that
you
drive
up
to
and
make
the
loop
around.
Future
connections
are
probably
decades
out,
and
so
we're
really
looking
at.
Q
What
can
we
do
to
create
residential
activity
in
this
area
to
make
that
node
more
of
a
mixed
use
and
viable
for
commercial
mile
really
quickly,
because
I
do
want
to
turn
the
time
over
to
david,
so
you
asked
about
five
mile
interchange
we
did
or
intersection
or
access
to
it.
We
had
designed
per
the
2018
design
standards
that
achd
had
adopted,
so
they
came
back
later
and
said:
well,
we're
reconsidering
this
intersection
and
maybe
moving
an
entrance.
Q
Their
original
plan
didn't
show
that
we're
agreeable
to
work
with
them
on
that,
but
we
wanted
to
get
a
little
bit
farther
down
the
road
before
making
any
of
those
changes.
Q
Let's
see,
we've
got
some
slides
that
show
the
next
slide
please.
So
that's
five
mile
and
the
next
slide
is
lockwood.
So
right
now,
there's
a
landscape
buffer
for
the
residents
to
the
south
of
us.
We
plan
to
have
something
very
similar
to
what
exists
on
the
south
side
of
lockwood
pathways
and
pedestrian
connection.
I
know
that
was
brought
up
if
you
could
scroll
through
the
next
slide,
please
so
there's
a
pathway
system
that
goes
through
hazelwood.
Q
We
would
be
connecting
to
that
and
then
to
the
north
of
us
with
that
project.
The
commercial
project
that
was
just
approved
also
has
a
connection
along
that
canal
on
the
west
side,
so
we're
connecting
into
that
as
well
as
providing
a
pedestrian
connection
shown
in
the
red
dashes
that
so
would
go
along
our
western
boundary
and
then
cut
diagonally
diagonally
to
the
northeast
to
provide
pedestrian
access
over
to
the
commercial
pads
as
well.
That
are
north
of
our
site.
Q
Site
plan
next
one
please,
so
this
is
an
exhibit.
That
shows
the
amenities
you
were
asking
about
open
space,
so
our
clubhouse
is
really
a
key
focal
point.
It's
also
where
our
leasing
office
will
be
so
we'll
have
on-site
management.
We
manage
this
tech
companies
is
vertically
integrated,
so
everything
from
build
to
full
lease
out
and
management.
That
is
the
business
model
for
this
and
it'll
have
a
clubhouse,
that's
highly
amenitized
a
swimming
pool.
We
have
pathways
that
are
interconnected
throughout
the
site,
walking
pathways.
We've
got
a
park
in
the
northeast
corner.
Q
This
shows
a
a
zoom
in
of
what
the
what
the
residents
will
look
like
together.
So
in
the
backyards,
we'll
have
private
patio
spaces
that
are
water,
wise
design,
pathways
that
go
throughout
highly
landscaped,
comfortable,
very
pedestrian,
friendly
connor
scrolled
through
some
of
the
floor
plans
and
elevations,
I'm
happy
to
cover
those
in
more
detail
if
you'd
like,
but
for
the
sake
of
time
I
will
skip
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
david
warren.
He
is
the
director
of
investments
for
pig
companies,
so
thank
you.
R
Thank
you.
My
name
is
david
bourne.
I
work
for
peg
companies,
145
west
200,
north
provo
utah.
I
appreciate
your
time
connor,
I'm
going
to
flip
through
these
slides
relatively
quickly.
I
want
to
be
sensitive
to
everybody's
time
here.
If
you
want,
I
think
we've
already
gone
through
some
of
the
images
of
the
exact
renderings
we're
submitting,
so
we
can
probably
flip
through
some
of
these.
Unless
anybody
has
questions
and
we
can
pause
and
stop
and
walk
through
them.
R
I
think
ms
leighton
did
a
good
job
of
explaining
the
product
type
and
what
we're
looking
for
peg
companies
is
a
almost
20
year
old
company,
but
the
alante
brand
was
developed
specifically
for
this
product
type,
and
you
know
we
can
go
one
more
right
there.
So
the
goal
is
to
provide
refined
rental
living
to
those
with
discerning
taste.
You
can
go
to
the
next
one.
The
five
pillars
of
vallante
homes
is
no
one
above
or
below
you,
as
as
miss
leighton
mentioned.
This
isn't
a
traditional
multi-family
unit.
Where
we
are
going
up.
R
We
are
trying
to
provide
a
premium
product
that
enhances
the
neighborhood
and
provides
a
good
place
for
them
to
live
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
bring
up
that
and
conor
I
I
might
have
misunderstood,
but
one
of
the
things
that
was
brought
up
about
the
amenity
package
was
access
to
the
lake
hazelwood
village
parks
and
park
system.
I
don't
believe
that
is
accurate,
while
this
is
within
the
lake
hazel
master
plan
community,
we're
not
part
of
the
lake
hazel
hoa
system
and
as
such,
our
residents
will
not
have
access
to
their
parks.
R
So
we
have
tried
to
create
an
amenity
package
that
would
be
sufficient
for
them
to
provide
most
of
their
needs
met
within
the
community.
Ms
layton
mentioned
the
clubhouse,
the
pool
a
walking
trail
that
would
be
in
excess
of
half
a
mile
as
well
as
open
space.
Tot
lots
a
dog
park,
so
all
of
their
needs
are
met
without
having
to
go
outside
of
that
and
keep
going.
R
As
I
mentioned,
peg
companies
is
just
shy
of
20
years
old.
I
mentioned
that
just
to
say
we
are
an
experienced
developer.
Our
founder
is
from
arimo
idaho.
He
prides
himself
on
being
a
dairy
farmer
and
bringing
that
level
of
work
ethic
to
the
office.
I
it
doesn't
matter
what
time
I
get
in
the
morning
he's
there
first
and
he's
always
there.
When
I
leave,
we
also
can
go
down
one
more
we're
a
full
service,
real
estate
company,
as
ms
leighton
mentioned,
we
aren't
just
looking
to
buy,
build
and
then
sell
and
get
out.
R
R
I'll
wrap
up
really
fast.
Our
plan
is
to
buy,
build
and
then
maintain
it
and
I
wanted
to
just
and
then
we
can
wrap
up
quickly,
just
a
few
notable
products
projects
that
we've
done.
So
you
know
that
we're
not
some
fly-by-night
shoddy
developer.
We
have
per.
We
have
built
the
the
hyatt
place
right
here
in
downtown
boise
around.
H
R
A
You
what
questions
do
the
commissioners
have?
I
would
like
to
know
where
the
tot
lots
are,
and
so.
H
R
12Th
house
is
here
the
pool's
here
right
now,
the
top
lot
and
the
dog
park
are
kind
of
they're
discerning,
where
they're
going
to
be
in
here
and
there's
also
some
internal
fighting
within
the
company
that
we
won't
bore
anybody
here
where
exactly
the
dog
park
should
go
here,
because.
Q
A
Any
questions
you'll
the
applicant
gets
an
opportunity
at
the
very
end,
to
provide
the
rebuttal,
and
so
then
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
open
it
up
for
other
people
to
talk.
Thank.
A
Okay,
I'm
going
to
go
with
the
people
that
signed
up
before,
so
this
list
is
who
I'm
going
to
go
with
first
and
so.
J
A
S
Before
I
go
before
I
start,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
something.
When
I
called
your
guys's
office,
I
was
told
we
would
be
able
to
make
a
statement
and
ask
questions
directly
to
pet
companies.
Is
that
is
that
the
case
or.
A
Public
hearings
don't
work
where
you
can
ask
questions
directly
to
the
applicant
there.
There
usually
are
community
meetings
where
that
happens,
and
so
those
questions
you
can
ask
us
questions
that
we,
we
probably
won't
know
the
answer
to,
and
we
won't
answer
back.
So
it's
not
a
question
and
answer
situation,
but
you're
welcome
to
give
us
any
of
your
statements
and
you're
welcome
to
say
this
is
what
I'm
wondering
about.
A
S
Okay,
thank
you
manager.
My
name
is
david
grace.
I
I
live
in
6587,
south,
plum,
dale
way,
I'm
actually
I'm
pretty
confident.
I'm
the
closest
person
here
tonight
to
this
proposed
apartment,
complex
in
130
units,
I'm
pretty
confident.
S
My
specific
section
of
hazelwood
village
would
be
the
most
impacted
by
this
unpopular
and
reckless
decision,
given
that
it
would
inevitably
lead
to
higher
traffic
parking
congestion,
higher
density
and
a
decrease
in
home
property
value.
I
assume
I
speak
for
many
people
here
that
we
moved
to
this
area
to
have
lower
density.
That's
what
we
wanted.
That's
why
you
move
to
the
suburbs,
according
to
the
peg's
company's
own
website,
they're
also
planning,
if
they
haven't
already
done
so,
to
purchase
a
separate
additional
11.2
acre
lot
adjacent
to
the
already
one:
zero.
S
Nine
seven
five
west
lake
hazel
property
from
the
same
seller
for
the
development
of
rent
patio
homes,
so
to
clarify
pet
companies,
is
planning
multi-family
units
on
two
separate
11,
plus
acre
lots.
That
said,
the
vast
majority
of
of
any
household
has
at
least
one
to
two
vehicles
per
household,
sometimes
three.
S
If
this
amendment
gets
approved
and
the
plans
for
the
adjacent
lot
are
also
approved,
we're
looking
at
anywhere
between
200
to
250
new
households,
just
at
the
corner
of
lake
hazel
and
five
mile,
which
would
then
lead
to
anywhere
between
four
to
five
hundred
additional
vehicles
in
that
same
small
area.
This
is
unacceptable
and
unsustainable.
S
Furthermore,
schools
in
that
area,
for
example,
lake
hazel
middle
lake
hayes
elementary
christie,
donnell
desert
sage,
elementary
amity,
tammany,
elementary
hillsdale
et
cetera,
are
already
overcrowded,
underfunded
and
understaffed.
What
we,
what
what
do
we
think
is
going
to
happen
when
we
add
hundreds
of
these
students.
D
H
A
S
Oh,
I
I
thought
my
time
wouldn't
start,
because
I
was
asking
those
players,
those
clear
clarifying
questions.
I
apologize.
Teachers
will
putting
aside
those
clear,
inevitable
consequences
for
approving
this
application.
The
reality
is
that
the
residents
of
hazelwood
village
built
or
purchased
their
homes,
with
the
offer,
mentioned
expectations
and
understanding
and
to
deviate
from
that
without
hazelwood's
consent
and
blessing
will
not
only
be
highly
unethical
in
my
opinion,
but
clearly
interpreted
as
purchasing
under
false
pretenses.
S
S
A
Thank
you
very
much.
We
really
appreciate
it.
I'm
gonna
go
go
ahead
and
go
to
mr
graf
andrew
in
online
webex.
J
Okay,
mr
graf,
you
can
speak
now.
T
T
T
A
Thank
you
very
much.
In
person,
I've
got
several
people
listed
rusty,
bicourt.
We
can't
hear
you
I'm
sorry.
They
need
to
switch
the
can.
We
turn
this
mic
on.
U
U
U
I
want
to
start
by
saying
I'm
not
against
growth.
I
understand
we
live
in
a
wonderful
place.
Why
do
why?
Wouldn't
other
people
want
to
live
there,
but
I
have-
and
I
also
have
a
strong
sense
of
the
need
for
affordable
housing.
What
I
am
against
is
building
hundreds
of
homes
and
apartments
before
making
sure
that
the
infrastructure
that
is
needed
exists
to
support
these
new
residents.
U
Excuse
me,
I'm
absolutely
freezing
in
here
having
local
businesses
to
provide
services
to
my
neighbors
is
part
of
the
infrastructure
to
which
I
am
referring.
I'm
going
to
kind
of
zip
through
this,
because
I
think
other
people
will
be
more
eloquent
in
what
I'm
trying
to
say,
but
I
think
that
a
new,
larger
development
on
lockwood
will
most
likely
create
a
dramatic
increase
in
traffic.
And
if
you
come
to
my
neighborhood
at
3
30
in
the
afternoon,
you
will
be
backed
up
for
a
mile
down.
U
So
we
already
have
great
traffic
problems,
and
I
know
we're
promised
to
have
new
roads,
build
the
roads
and
then
bring
the
people
same
thing
with
our
schools.
Our
schools
are
crowded
and
full.
Let's
build
a
new
school
then
bring
the
people
in.
It's
always
putting
the
cart
before
the
horse.
So
I
suggest
that
we
build
the
infrastructure,
and
certainly
part
of
that
is
new
businesses,
that
our
community
supports
the
businesses
that
are
there
now
and
they
talked
about
having
more
roofs.
U
I
guess
I
think
we
have
enough
roofs
to
support
what
we
have
my
personal
feeling
so
to
say
this
in
the
end,
and
I
want
to
bring
up
one
other
thing,
and
that
is
that
we
do
not
have
public
transportation.
We
don't
have
buses
come
out
for
people
to
be
able
to
get
into
town.
So
what
does
it
mean?
It
means
you
get
in
your
car
and
you
drive
and
bringing
these
additional
cars
into
our
area
is
only
going
to
increase
that
plus.
U
I
think
we
could
really
really
benefit
from
more
businesses
and
more
restaurants,
so
I
will
end
now
and
thank
you
again
very
much,
but
please
consider
building
the
infrastructure
before
you
build
bringing
new
people
in.
Thank.
A
A
V
Name
is
deborah
rodney
and
I
live
at
11161
west
petunia
drive
in
boise
in
hazelwood
village.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
at
this
hearing.
I
moved
into
hazelwood
village
a
little
over
seven
years
ago
and
have
watched
it
grow
to
a
fairly
large
community,
but
it
is
also
a
very
nice
community,
with
lovely
neighbors,
much
of
what
my
concerns
were
have
been
mentioned
by
others,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
housing
in
the
area
already,
including
which
has
already
been
mentioned.
V
The
fairly
new
charlesworth
development
consisting
of
over
100
town
homes,
just
north
of
the
walgreens
on
the
corner
of
five
mile
and
lake
hazel,
it
seems
counterproductive
to
just
build
housing
unit
after
housing
unit,
with
no
thought
given
to
where
people
will
shop
or
the
resulting
traffic
issues.
I
have
seen
areas
around
here
filled
with
developments.
Farmland
sold
for
homes
that
I
know
in
some
cases
are
not
selling
right
now
because
of
the
economy.
V
I've
already
noticed
increased
traffic
in
the
time
I've
lived
here.
It
would
be
nice
to
have
space
where
people
can
walk
and
enjoy
time
with
family
and
friends
and
enjoy
a
meal.
As
that
would
hopefully
would
come
to
this
commercial
to
this
space,
community
planning
can't
possibly
mean
just
building
homes
and
nothing
else
with
no
thought
for
congestion
issues.
I
spoke
with
several
people
who
live
in
hazelwood
village,
not
knowing
how
they
felt
and
every
about
this
and
every
single
one
of
them
was
very
much
against
this
plan.
V
You
also
received
comments
from
individuals
and
petitions,
the
overwhelming
majority
of
which
were
in
favor
of
the
retail
space.
I
sincerely
hope
that
you
will
not
go
against
the
majority
of
the
people
who
live
in
the
area
who
wish
for
the
retail
space
and
not
a
another
congested
highly
trafficked
neighborhood.
W
W
W
Instead,
the
proposed
recommendation
is
to
allow
zoning
chains
so
that
more
housing
can
be
crammed
into
every
square
inch
contrary
to
the
intent
of
the
master
plan,
the
infrastructure
to
support
even
the
existing
housing
and
that
being
currently
built
is
tenuous
at
best
with
little
employment
and
no
public
transportation.
Residents
of
the
area
must
drive
considerable
distances.
W
Most
residents
settled
in
the
area
with
the
expectation
that
other
aspects
of
the
neighborhood
would
also
come
with.
The
housing
development,
it
hasn't
happened
and
once
the
lockwood
units
are
built,
they
will
be
present
forever
there
and
there
is
very
other
little
available
space
to
build
things.
People
need
to
achieve
a
good
way
of
life.
W
Older
residents
are
often
afraid
of
the
traffic,
especially
at
night
and
so
are
becoming
more
isolated,
homebound
and
detached
from
the
larger
boise
environment.
Few
amenities
are
within
walking
distance
at
a
time
when
many
cities
are
embracing
concepts
such
as
livable
communities
with
planned
walkable
areas,
ada
county
and
boise
city
seem
willing
to
sacrifice
the
well-being
of
its
citizens
for
the
sake
of
additional
housing
units.
W
W
X
Thank
you,
my
name
is
carlos
vidalis.
I
live
at
10963
with
stoliana
drive.
I
would
like
to
mention
certain
things
on
the
summary.
The
address
of
this
proposal
is
not
96,
107
96,
like
hazel,
it
is
lockwood.
The
address
that
is
provided
in
the
summary
is
the
address
of
the
other
property
that
pg
companies
bought
a
quarter
mile
away.
X
They
converted
30
of
the
residences
on
that
hoa
to
rentals
overnight
they
just
bottom.
Something
else.
I'd
like
to
say
is
that
I
would
very
much
appreciate
if
you
read
the
city
of
boise
letter
yourselves,
the
city
of
voice
is
not
asking
to
have
higher
density
residential,
they
say
they
will
deny
the
application
themselves
or
they
would
because
there
is
not
enough
commercial
enterprises
in
this
area.
X
So
I
would
very
much
like
to
also
mention
that
indeed,
every
square
inch
of
green
space
in
historical
village
is
private
property
sustained
by
our
dudes
and
not
by
any
public
money,
is
not
taxes,
so
so
that
one
last
thing
before
I
begin
my
presentation
is
that
I
disagree
with
the
finance
of
fact.
I
think
that
they
are
wrong.
I
think
that
they
never
consider
vehicle
miles
travel.
I
don't
think
they
ever
consider
all
the
things
that
go
against
the
goals
of
the
city
of
boise
and
the
ada
county
goals.
X
X
I
like
to
point
out
that
there
is
370
individuals
who
submitted
written
comments
against
this
development
and
only
three
that
said
they
would
like
to
have
it
and
so
and
also
something
else
that
this
development
will
block
access
to
where
pump
house.
This
is
important
for
us.
Unless
we
have
access
to
the
pump
house,
you
know
if
the
pumps
go
out
now
we
need
to
have
a
crane
to
come
over
service.
It
well
guess
what
nobody's
going
to
have
water
in
the
whole
msp
area.
X
Please
next
slide,
so
I
like
to
point
out
that
there
is
really
only
35
acres
dedicated
to
commercial
enterprises
in
this
area.
X
The
there
is
only
if
you
draw
there's
about
3
500
homes
in
the
in
the
in
the
2
mile
square
area,
and
in
that
two
mile
square
area
there
is
only
23
businesses
and
that
that
translates
into
a
if
you
please
go
to
the
next
slide
translates
into
a
density
of
one.
What
is
it
435
residents
per
business
available
in
the
city
of
boise?
There
are
60
arrests
for
every
business.
X
In
the
north
end,
there
is
25
residents
for
every
business
in
that
area
immediately
to
the
area
to
where
we're
talking
about
435
residents
for
every
business,
there's
110
miles,
100
acres
for
every
business
compared
to
boise
that
has
6.7
acres
for
every
business.
If
you
go
to
a
large
area,
16
square
mile,
we
have
a
520
residents
per
business,
and
so
I
know
I
have
run
out
of
time.
I
very
much
appreciate
it.
X
I
will
appreciate
if
you
read
my
presentation
here,
I
will
submit
it
to
mr
lindstrom,
but
I
very
much
oppose
the
development.
I
think
it
will
not
be
for
good
for
anybody.
One
more
thing
I
drive
about
a
thousand
miles
a
year
to
to
do
errands
and
to
little
shoppings
outside
the
area.
If
all
the
residents
in
here
will
drink
the
same
amount
of
area,
that
would
be
10
million
miles
400
times
around
the
earth.
X
A
Thank
you,
mr
lindstrom,
would
you
just
flip
through
the
rest
of
the
presentation
so
that
we
can
see
it
before
if
there's
any
we'll,
just
pause
and
see
go
ahead
and
I
think
we'll
go
ahead.
F
A
X
If
I
may,
like
point
out,
there
were
another
11
acres
of
land
south
of
this
zone
that
were
already
converted
into
residential,
so
we
already
lost
11
acres.
Y
Hi
I'm
carol
vidalis
at
10963,
west,
oliana
and
boise,
and
I
basically
support
everything
everybody
else
has
said,
but
I
am
currently
serving
as
chair
of
the
landscape
committee
at
hazelwood
village.
We
have
about
20
acres
of
common
area
and
we
also
in
addition
to
all
that
land
we
maintain
all
of
the
sidewalks
in
hazelwood
village.
That's
not
the
case
in
all
the
neighborhoods
necessarily,
but
we
are
responsible
for
those
sidewalks.
We
actually
also
maintain
all
the
street
lights
in
hazelwood
village.
Y
Obviously
we're
not
going
to
tell
people
don't
come
walk
through
our
neighborhood,
but
the
more
people
that
do.
We
also
have
dog
way
stations
and
dog
bags,
and
even
with
the
parkside
development,
that's
currently
being
built
and
occupied
just
north
of
us
along
hazelwood
village.
We've
noticed
a
big
increase
in
our
expenses
to
do
that.
Y
So
some
of
this
I'm
looking
at
it
that
you
add,
I
look
at
the
the
site
plan
for
this
and
they
say
they
have
all
this
common
space,
but
I'm
sorry
a
dog
park
and
a
tot
lot.
If
you've
got
children
that
want
to
go
play
ball.
Where
are
they
going
to
play?
We
have
a
our
biggest
park,
is
one
acre
with
a
pool,
a
clubhouse
and
a
tot
lot.
Y
Y
Y
Those
were
we
were
here
when
that
was
going
under
planning
and
zoning
for
development,
our
consideration
in
2019
and
2020
and
the
story
there
was.
Oh,
you
know
it's
so
hard
for
younger
people
to
get
into
the
housing
market.
This
will
be
lower
level.
Well,
you
know
the
housing
market
change.
Those
are
all
in
the
400
to
499.
Y
Now
so
they're,
not
entry-level
homes
and
most
of
those
are
turning
over
to
rentals
there's
one.
In
there
that's
a
airbnb
that
is
advertising,
oh,
if
the
little
patio
and
the
backs
not
big
enough.
Just
walk
three
blocks
down.
Hazelwood
village
has
parks
and
green
space
for
you.
They
don't
say
anything
about
it's
all
private.
So
that's
what
we're
up
against
that
we're
already
we've
had
some
of
their
residents
come
in,
want
to
use
our
facilities.
Y
A
Thank
you
for
coming
in
john
murphy,.
Z
Z
Z
Z
You
know
all
that
all
those
sewer
lines
have
to
be
pumped
to
get
up
to
drain
into
the
sewer
system,
and
so
that's
extra
expense,
keeping
those
pumps
going
and
the
water
are
we
going
to
have
enough
water
to
accommodate
all
those
units
and
the
other
big
thing
is
all
the
roads
surrounding
the
roads:
lake
hazel,
five
mile
maple
grove,
cloverdale,
amerity
they're,
all
two
lane
highways.
AA
Z
And
it's
a
real
shame
that
there's
not
a
the
roads,
aren't
big
enough
to
handle
emergency
vehicles,
so
you
know-
and
I
agree
with
the
other
person
that
said
until
you
expand
the
road
system-
you're
not
going
to
adequately
take
care
of
the
people
that
might
be
in
need
of
emergency
services.
Z
A
Thank
you
very
much
appreciate
you
coming
in
tonight,
jacob
richard
pritchett.
AB
Jacob
pritchett
I
live
at
10980,
westlay
laney
drive
in
hazelwood
village.
Now
I
don't
have
a
big
prepared
speech
or
anything
I
heard
about
this
earlier
today,
but
as
a
resident
of
this
neighborhood.
I
cared
enough
to
put
aside
my
plans
for
the
rest
of
the
day
and
evening
to
come
out
here
and
discuss
this
and
pretty
much.
AB
The
situation
is
that
there's,
I'm
pretty
much.
People
have
covered
what
I
was
already
sort
of
going
to
say
in
terms
of
like
the
density,
but
there's
we
came
out
when
we
picked
this
area
because
of
the
low
density.
But
the
thing
is
the
business:
is
there
there's
not
enough
of
them?
Yet
the
ratios
that
carlos
was
discussing
are
that's
spot
on.
When
I
go
to
the
albertsons
is
always
pretty
full.
AB
When
I
go
to
the
mcdonald's,
I
was
waiting
there
for
like
a
very
long
time
once
to
the
point
where
I
had
to
leave
and
go
somewhere
else,
because
it's
just
and
the
walgreens
has
lines
like
this
too
there's,
but
not
enough
businesses
for
how
many
people
there
are
there
already.
We
can't
have
more
people
coming
into
this,
and
the
water
is
another
good
point
we
are
already
on
like
water
pressure
in
our
sinks
and
stuff
is
already
relatively
low.
AB
We
have
to
time
out
all
of
our
sprinkler
systems
the
roads,
their
traffic
is
awful
right
now
I
mean
like
they're,
saying
too
late:
it's
it's
tough
traffic
at
3
pm,
really
rough
and
property
value.
We
when
we
bought
these
homes,
they
were
zoned
for
business,
and
that
was
the
expectation
that
we
were
all
investing
in
when
we
invested
in
these
homes
that
we
purchased-
and
if
this
is
rezoned
to
residential
this
problem,
these
problems
we're
facing
right
now
are
just
going
to
get
worse.
AD
Hi
good
evening
john
hastings
7173
pinseeker
in
meridian,
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
today
in
favor
of
the
project.
I'm
a
local
home
builder.
We
focus
on
quality
housing
and
have
built
a
lot
of
homes
in
this
part
of
boise.
AD
I've
worked
with
the
applicant
on
multiple
other
projects
in
similar
communities
and
have
been
really
impressed
with
the
quality
level
that
they're
trying
to
bring
to
the
table.
I
feel
like
this:
isn't
your
typical
multi-family
projects
they're
committed
to
partnering
with
local
companies
that
build
high
quality
projects
and
the
finish
level
that
I've
seen
on
these
is
in
line
with
the
single
family
homes
that
we
build
in
other
parts
of
the
community?
AD
I'm
excited
to
see
this
type
of
project.
I
think
that
detached
and
duplex
style,
with
their
own
yards
kind
of
rental
homes.
Cottages,
if
you
will
is,
is
a
great
move
for
the
area.
It
introduces
a
new
housing
type
that
we
don't
already
have,
and
I
think
that
it's
sorely
needed
with
the
housing
market
starting
to
slow.
AD
I
think
that
this
can
be
a
great
projects
like
this
moving
forward
can
be
a
great
boon
to
the
economy
and
provide
jobs
for
our
trade
contractors
moving
forward,
and
so
I
think
that
housing
supply
is
going
to
start
to
dwindle
as
the
market
slows
and
home
builders
slow
down
their
starts,
and
so
I
think
that
our
community
is
going
to
be
in
need
of
of
additional
housing,
and
so
I'm
in
favor
of
the
project.
Thanks.
A
Thank
you
very
much
appreciate
it.
I
show
several
more
people
on
the
list
there
with
the
applicant.
Is
there
anybody
else
in
the
room
or
online
that
would
like
to
testify
either
for
or
against
go
ahead
and
come
forward.
Give
us
your
name
and
address.
P
My
name
is
elaine
crawford
and
I
live
at
10
704,
west
avelia
street
in
hazelwood
village,
and
the
first
thing
I'd
like
to
say
is
when
I
purchased
my
home,
which
was
brand
new
four
years
ago.
Almost
four
years
ago,
I
specifically
asked
what
the
lot
the
vacant
lot
was
going
to
be
and
was
told
commercial
totally
commercial.
It
will
not
change.
This
came
from
the
salesman
in
the
office.
P
My
home
is
not
a
hundred
yards
from
this
new
development.
I'm
15
yards
from
it
lockwood
runs
right
behind
the
street.
I
live
on,
as
does
it
does
with
another
friend
of
mine,
two,
the
entrance
and
the
exit
of
this
new
development
will
be
coming
right
between
the
end
of
five
mile
and
just
becoming
right
out
of
my
into
the
direction
of
my
home.
P
I
know
a
lot
of
us
in
in
this
new
section
at
hazelwood
village
purchased
there
as
retirement.
We
did
not.
We
don't
have
small
young
families
we
intended
to
live
there
for
the
rest
of
our
life.
P
The
property
values,
in
my
opinion,
are
going
to
drop
and
when
I
saw
the
the
sketch
of
the
new
development
there's
no
way
they
have
walking
paths
in
there.
You
have
to
walk
down
the
sidewalk
in
a
circle
on
the
inside.
That's
not
walking
paths,
but
the
people
who
live
there
as
they
come
out
can
just
turn
west
on
lockwood
and
within
two
blocks
they're
in
the
middle
of
our
one
acre
park
behind
our
clubhouse.
P
We
have
a
big
playground
for
the
children
of
our
our
area
and
it's
open.
It's
not
fenced.
You
can't
tell
me
people
in
those
rentals
aren't
going
to
just
come
over
there
and
bring
their
kids
and
I'm
not
opposed
to
children
having
playgrounds
by
any
means,
but
we
pay
hoa
dues
and
we
work
very
hard
to
protect
the
amenities
in
hazelwood
village,
and
this
I
urge
you
please
please
reject
this.
This
is
not
going
to
benefit
the
people
who
live
there.
A
AA
Good
evening
my
name
is
robert
wade.
I
live
at
10772
west
alfina
in
hazelwood
village.
You've
got
a
tough
decision
as
planners.
You
get
one
choice
at
this
one
shot
when
you're
developing
a
city
and
you've
got
crucial
decisions
to
go
ahead
and
make
I
don't
envy
your
position,
but
I
thank
you
for
the
duty
that
you
do
do
a
lot
of
times.
In
my
professional
and
my
personal
life,
I
try
to
take
and
reflect
upon
important
decisions
at
three
levels:
good,
better
and
best.
AA
AA
I
want
to
give
you
a
a
imagery
of
take
a
look
at
and
go
up.
Five
excuse
me.
Lake
hazel
all
the
way
to
eagle
that
intersection,
the
top
of
that
hill
and
then
turn
around,
and
what
you
see
is
black
roofs
for
as
long
as
you
can
go
ahead
and
imagine,
and
what
I'll
share
with
you
is
that
I
see
a
problem
that
we
have.
Of
course
we
needed
to
go
ahead
and
have
housing,
got
great
developers,
come
into
the
valley
and
do
execute
wonderful
properties.
AA
But
what
these
properties
are
are
islands
to
themselves
they're
not
connected.
There's
no
businesses
there.
They
can't
pers
the
residents
there
have
to
drive
into
town
or
to
overland
or
to
eagle
or
meridian
they're
isolated.
We
have
to
really
go
ahead
and
plan
this
well
because
you
have
one
shot.
We
need
those
businesses.
AA
A
A
Okay-
and
I
don't
see
anybody
else
in
in
the
room,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
proceed-
we've
got
several
questions
from
mr
lindstrom.
So
go
ahead
and
we'll
ask
mr
lindstrom
questions,
mr
mr
coulson:
do
you
have
questions?
Go.
N
Just
one
that
I
think
right
now
on
the
so
in
to
for
the
open
space
area
in
this
development
redevelopment,
the
street
area
is
also
is
called
open
space.
It
does
there's
no
differentiation
between
a
hardscape
and
greenbelt
area.
F
Madam
chair,
commissioner
wickstrom
I
I
do
not
know
the
ins
and
outs
of
exactly
what
open
space
is.
I
don't
mr
danielson
has
been
here
longer
than
I
have
so
maybe
he
can.
He
knows
more
so.
G
Ma'am
chair
and
commissioner
wicks
jim,
so
the
parking
area
and
the
drive
aisles
are
not
considered
part
of
the
open
space,
so
basically
the
open
space
and
that
development
would
be
kind
of
the
yards.
You
know
basically
the
green
space,
so
anything
that's
kind
of
natural
vegetation
that
would
be
considered
the
open
space
within
the
development.
A
I
wondered
if
you
could
comment
on
one
of
the
party's
comments
that
the
city
of
boise
basically
rejected
this
subdivision
all
right
this
that
if
we
read
the
city
of
boise's
letter
closely,
it
would
tell
us
that
that
the
city
of
boise
doesn't
support
this
project.
I'm.
D
D
A
I
have
a
couple
more
questions
because
I
my
deals,
I
have
questions
so
are
there
some
public
facilities
like
for
parks
that
are
relatively
close
or
what
would
be
the
closest
public
facilities
or
even
closest
school
facilities?
You
know
for
like
playgrounds
and
stuff.
F
Yeah,
madam
chairs,
so
I
believe
some
of
the
folks
that
testified.
They
explained
that
there
are
some
nearby
parks
sounds
like
that,
specifically
to
the
hazelwood
development,
so
those
are
part
of
the
hoa
they're
not
allowed
to
be
utilized
by
anybody
that
would
be
living
in
this
multi-family
development,
there's
also
on
lake
hazel
kind
of
to
the
east
of
this
property
down
the
road.
F
There
is
a
proposed
park
site
currently
from
the
city,
but
it
sounds
like
that.
You
know
that's
potentially
not
going
to
be
utilized
for
a
park.
Obviously
there's
not
a
park
there
currently
for
existing
sites,
and
maybe
the
applicant
can
address
this
further.
I
know
that
to
the
west
down
lake
hazel
there
is
a
school
there.
Currently,
you
know
I'm
not
super
familiar
with
the
area
in
terms
of
other
schools
and
parks,
but
that's
most.
I
can
give
you
right
now
so.
G
I'm
sure
I
can
maybe
highlight
some
of
that
so
about
on
a
half
a
mile
to
the
west,
there's
the
lake
hazel
elementary
school
and
then
directly
south
of
hazelwood
village,
there's
the
christine
donnell
school
of
the
arts
and
then
there's
lake
hazel
middle
school,
probably
about
a
mile
from
here.
That's
on
valley,
street
and
lagrange
and
then
there's
another
elementary
school
in
charter.
Point
subdivision:
okay,.
A
A
Nobody
has
addressed
the
irrigation
easement
or
the
easement
to
get
across
the
property
for
the
cranes,
and
so
I
think
we'll
ask
the
that
the
applicant
addressed
that
in
their
rebuttal,
because
that
was
something
that
isn't
within
your
view.
But
I
didn't
hear
it
answered
as
we
went
through
anything
else
that
we
haven't
heard
answered.
Q
Thank
you
again,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
commission
again
for
the
record
bonnie
layton
with
nv5.
Thank
you
again
for
your
time
this
evening.
I
think
we
had
a
lot
of
very
thoughtful
feedback
from
folks
and
I'll
try
to
address
as
many
of
these
issues.
I
also
believe
david
bourne
will
come
up
and
speak
to
some
of
these
issues
as
well.
First
of
all,
I'd
like
to
address
traffic
in
the
intersection.
That
is
not
an
uncommon
issue
that
is
brought
up
for
these
types
of
projects.
Q
Ach
did
a
study
of
the
intersection
back
in
2018
and
in
that
study
they
had
four
roundabout
designs
and
one
signalized
intersection
option.
It
went
through
a
series
of
work
workshops
and
ultimately
the
design
was
or
the
decision
was
to
go
with
the
signalized
intersection.
So
that
is
what
currently
exists.
Q
Q
One
thing
to
mention
about
traffic:
we
have
a
submitted,
a
traffic
impact
study.
That's
part
of
our
submittal
that
evaluates
the
number
of
units
and
access
onto
lockwood.
Should
there
be
a
commercial
use,
the
traffic
could
be
significantly
higher
than
what
our
site
generates.
It
really
depends
on.
What
type
of
use
is
there?
There
are
a
number
of
permitted
uses
in
this
commercial
zone
if
it
were
to
stay
the
this
way,
so
to
assume
that
this
is
going
to
increase,
the
traffic
is
really
doesn't
necessarily
bear
out.
Q
So
we
have
to
look
at
the
submitted
traffic
impact
study
and
go
off
of
those
values.
Echd
has
required
certain
improvements
go
along
with
that
and
we
are
in
agreement
with
those
access
onto
lockwood
is
within
achd
standards.
They
have
specific
guidelines
and
we
meet
those
guidelines.
Q
In
the
area
we
do
have
a
public
library.
We
have
schools,
as,
as
you
heard,
there
is
a
slated
public
park
to
the
east
of
us
water
and
sewer.
We
do
have
service
ability,
so
that
is
already
part
of
approved
for
this
parcel,
so
we're
not
creating
any
sort
of
additional
burden.
Actually,
our
development
provides
for
very
water,
wise
design.
So,
instead
of
a
large
grassy
open
spaces,
we
have
more
intimate
spaces
that
use
drought,
tolerant
landscaping
in
the
backyards.
We
have
a
a
synthetic
turf
and
a
concrete
pad.
Q
So
people
have
that
outdoor
space
very
different
than
what
you
would
see
in
a
typical
three-story
walk-up
that
might
have
just
a
smaller
balcony
each
resident
has
their
own
little
backyard
space.
We
expect
a
range
of
residents
everywhere
from
young
folks
to
older
folks,
people
that
really
want
a
different
lifestyle
to
live.
There's
a
lot
of
three-story
walk-ups
in
the
valley
and
that's
one
option,
but
if
maybe
you're
looking
to
downsize,
you
don't
want
anybody
above
or
below
you.
This
provides
that
opportunity.
Q
It's
it's
walkable!
It's
safe
we're
providing
connectivity
the
five
mile
along
five
mile
right
now,
that's
a
we're
going
to
be
improving
that
frontage,
which
will
help
with
connectivity
from
all
of
our
neighbors
around
to
get
up
to
and
across
over
to
albertsons.
That's
walkable
landscape
buffers
again
just
enhancing
the
appearance,
the
irrigation,
easement
and
access
to
the
pump
house.
Q
Our
engineers
have
been
working
to
resolve
that
issue
to
provide
access,
and
we
do
have
a
plan
in
place
that
we
believe
we've
been
in
contact
with
the
crane
company
really
trying
to
work
with
them
to
make
sure
that
they
have
adequate
access
and
will
continue
in
that
effort.
Based
on
the
standards
that
they're
asking
for.
Let's
see.
Q
I
think
that's
it
and
I'll
just
defer
the
rest
of
my
time
to
mr
bourne.
So
if
there's
any
questions
for
me,
I'm
happy
to
answer
them.
Why.
R
Thank
you
before
I
start.
I
just
wanted
to
say
to
all
the
people
here
who
came
and
made
comments.
I've
been
to
a
lot
of
public
hearing
meetings
with
we're
very
contentious
meeting.
Her
views
are
held,
and
I
just
want
to
say
how
much
I
appreciate
the
even
though
I
may
disagree
with
some
of
the
opinions
of
some
of
the
people
who
came.
I
appreciate
how
they
were
represented
in
such
a
respectful
manner.
So
thank
you.
R
R
The
second
thing
I
wanted
to
address
just
briefly
is,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
concerns
about
the
fact
that
this
will
be
a
primarily
renter
occupied
community,
and
I
think
it's
it's
unfortunate
that
renters
get
such
a
negative
stigma,
especially
seeing
as
at
some
point
in
our
life.
Most
of
us
were
renters
at
one
time
as
homes
become
more
unaffordable
to
purchase
we're
seeing
a
trend
where
people
are
renting
for
longer
periods
of
time
and
it's
it's
kind
of
a
lifestyle.
R
Some
of
the
things
that
are
brought
up
as
the
stereotypical
concerns
about
renter
occupied
homes.
You
know
the
the
decrease
in
upkeep
the
behavior
that
might
be
contrary
to
the
values
of
the
neighborhood,
like
changing
your
oil
on
your
driveway
or
your
whole
engine
parties
till
two
in
the
morning,
or
as
mentioned
you
know,
dogs
walking
around
and
defecating
all
over
the
area.
R
A
lot
of
those
things
are
eradicated
in
our
communities,
because
we
have
active
property
management.
Those
things
include,
you
know
oftentimes.
If
I
buy
my
house
and
then
rent
it
out
somewhere
later,
and
somebody
has
a
party
until
two
in
the
morning
and
you're
next
door.
You
don't
know
who
to
call
if
something
like
that
happens
in
one
of
our
communities.
You
know
exactly
who
to
call,
because
we
have
on-site
property
management
and
even
to
things
as
silly
as
the
you
know,
the
dog
poop.
R
N
And
if
you
can
pull
up
the
it's
actually
the
looks
like
the
landscape
plan.
Just
it's
more
colorful
the
the
buildings
that
are
along
the
northern
and
southern
edge.
They
don't
have
direct
access
to
parking.
Do
they.
It
looks
like
they're,
the
all
the
parking
zones.
R
No,
so
all
of
the
parking
is
going
to
be
interior
and
they're
on
the
inside
and
to
access
that
they're
going
to
have
to
walk
through
pedestrian
paths
to
their
homes,
similar
to
what
you'd
see
in
a
a
garden-style
apartment
complex.
But
instead
of
walking
upstairs
they're
just
walking
through
a
level
pedestrian
path.
N
And
which
of
the
units
would
have
attached
garages
on
those
so.
R
N
This
lady
might
be
allowed
to
use
that
you
did
do
a
traffic
study.
There
was
a
county
engineer
who
came
up
with
a
number
of
1300
trips
per
day,
as
is
that
pretty
similar
to
what
you
came
up
with
in
your
study.
Q
Q
I
would
have
to
pull
it
up,
but
so
the
way
the
traffic
impact
studies
work
is
it
gets
scoped
by
achd
and
approved
they
go
out.
They
take,
they
collect
traffic
counts,
they
factor
in
all
of
the
background
traffic.
It's
submitted
back
to
achd
for
review
and
approval
or
any
changes
that
need
to
be
made.
So
the
staff
report
that
you
have
before
you
achd
is
in
agreement
with
what
those
findings
were.
Okay,.
N
E
Can
you
do
me
a
favor
and
go
back
over
the
commercial
ratios
per
house
over
the
top
I
mean
I,
I
literally
drive
this
intersection
every
day.
I
stop
at
that
coffee
shop
every
day.
So
can
you
can
you
kind
of
break
that
back
down
for
me,
make
me
smart
on
that.
Q
Sure,
commissioner
coulson,
if
you
could
turn
connor
to
the
first
spreadsheet,
that's
in
our
presentation.
A
We're
gonna
test
connor's
technical
skills
here.
Q
The
the
first
one,
the
okay,
next
one
up
there,
we
go
so
I'll
start
here,
so
what
we
really
looked
at
is
taking
data
from
the
almanac
almanac
and
saying
in
the
context
as
city
as
the
holes
we're
looking
at
what
development
pattern.
This
is
supposed
to
be
a
mixed-use
area
and
what
what
do
we
actually
have
out
there?
Where
is
the
commercial
located
and
you'll,
see
that
on
the
next
slide?
So
what
I
did
is
I
logged
in
that
information
and
then
did
a
comparison.
Q
So
for
this
area
of
town,
it's
94
single
family,
so
very,
very
low
density,
less
than
two
units
per
acre
when
you're
a
commercial
developer
and
david
can
speak
more
to
this
because
they
do
peg.
Companies
does
do
a
lot
of
commercial
development
as
well.
That's
a
driving
factor
number
of
rooftops
for
folks
now
the
southwest
planning
area
is
huge
right.
It's
10
square
miles,
it's
very
large
same
with
the
south
coal,
so
the
whole.
Q
The
whole
area
is
very
large,
but
it's
very
dense,
sparsely
populated,
and
so
when
you
look
at,
I
say
you
know,
the
north
end
is
kind
of
the
gold
standard
for
a
lot
of
folks,
livable
walkable.
You
look
at
the
number
of
units
per
acre
and
the
number
of
people
per
acre
and
then
look
at
how
those
folks
are
supporting
those
commercial
businesses.
Q
If
you
look
at
the
north
end,
they
they've
got
70.
I
think
it's
71
that
says,
is
single
family,
so
there's
a
there's,
a
greater
diversity,
and
I
think
this
table
is
really
telling
that
there
just
isn't
a
mix
of
diversity
in
this
region,
and
so
bringing
this
type
of
development
to
the
area
will
support
the
commercial
as
a
as
a
whole.
If
you
want
to
scroll
to
the
commercial
the
surrounding
next,
I
think
it's
the
next
one.
Q
There
we
go
so
again.
There
have
been
some
changes
over
time.
You
know,
there's
the
comp
plan,
which
is
a
guiding
document.
There
has
been
a
parcel
that's
to
the
northwest
of
us
that
was
rezoned
from
residential
to
commercial,
that's
really
appropriate,
being
adjacent
to
lake
hazel
visible
for
those
businesses.
Q
As
you
move
to
the
east
side
of
five
mile
that
has
taken
some
time.
We
you
know,
some
of
us
have
been
around
long
enough
to
know
that
that
was
a
pulse
and
you
know
it
struggled
for
years
really
to
make
it.
There
is
still
a
commercial
pad
out
front.
That's
available
the
taco
truck
that
is
out
there
that
operates.
Q
We
also
see
to
the
north
with
the
mcdonald's-
that's
just
developed,
but
there
are
additional
areas
for
that
to
be
developed
and
would
seem
again,
as
I
had
mentioned
before,
more
appropriate
there's
a
nice
dividing
line
between
the
residential
subdivision
to
the
east
of
that
there's
a
canal.
So
that
would
be
a
really
great
prime
commercial
and
retail
space.
Q
So,
for
those
reasons
we're
saying:
okay,
if
you
look
at
that
northeast
or
northwest
corner
you'll,
see
that
basically
about
the
same
amount.
If
you
were
to
flip
that
over
we're
encompassing
roughly
the
same
amount
of
acreage
on
our
side
again
adjacent
to
the
roadways
that
are
visible,
that's
what's
most
attractive
to
commercial
developers
and
we're
providing
connectivity
along
the
pathway,
making
those
connections
both
along
the
canal
and
then
a
diagonal
into
that
commercial.
So
it's
more
walkable
than
it
is
today
right.
Q
E
No,
it
makes
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
be
honest,
I've
I
live
used
to
live
I've
grown
up
here
since
I
was
a
kid,
so
I
was
four
miles
from
here.
I
mean
I
remember,
I
know
exactly
what
you're
saying
they
did
struggle
the
lake
hazel
bowling
alley.
That
was
there,
it
had
to
go,
it
had
to
go
out
of
business
and-
and
I
think
the
demographics
that
I'm
looking
at
in
those
outskirts
is
when
that
was
all
built
back
in
70s
80s,
everybody
was
on
bigger
lots.
E
I
mean
you're
talking
one
acre
lots,
I
mean
if
you
look
farther
out
and
around
this,
and
I
see
where
your
numbers
are
coming
from
now
because
of
looking
on
google
earth,
where
everything's
much
bigger
lots
which
are
never
going
to
go
away
right.
Those
houses
you're
not
going
to
go
in
there
mow
five
houses
down
to
put
more
stuff
in,
and
so
I
see
where
those
make
those
those
numbers
work
and
I've
watched.
E
Unfortunately,
those
businesses
do
fail,
and-
and
I
do
see
your
point
on
how
the
the
the
density
you
you're
correct
and
over
the
years
yeah
residential
has
to
come
so
that
the
commercial
can
come
with
it,
because
otherwise,
otherwise
people
aren't
going
to
invest
and
build
out
there
to
do
commercial
properties.
So
that's
why
I
wanted
to
see
the
demographics
on
all
of
that
and
kind
of
see
a
little
bit
and
actually,
hopefully
kind
of.
E
A
I've
got
some
questions,
so
a
lot
of
the
residents
brought
up
the
concerns
about
hazelwood
having
their
own
hoa
that
supports
their
common
space
and
their
open
areas
and
not
wanting
to
be
the
mean
neighbors
to
say
you
are
not
allowed
to
play
on
our
grass.
So
what?
What
are
you
going
to
do
to
to
provide
enough
attractive
amenities
on
your
location
that
your
that
your
children
won't
be
looking
for
the
most
available
place
to
go
play.
R
I
think
it's
two
parts
to
that.
One
is
exactly,
as
you
said,
providing
the
amenities
that
make
an
attractive
community
and
two
educating
the
residents
that
these
are
the
amenities
there's
other
parks,
local,
as
conor
brought
out
just
not
the
hazelwood
parks
that
are
available
to
them.
We're
trying
to
put
an
amenity
package
in
there
that
we
feel
is
going
to
be
attractive
to
the
people
who
are
going
to
want
to
live
here,
some
type
of
clubhouse,
a
pool
which
is
very
attractive
parks,
open
space.
R
A
R
Know
this
is
probably
the
only
community
where
we
have
we're
surrounded
by
a
specific
hoa
that
would
have,
as
you
mentioned,
an
attractive
amenity
right
over
there.
It's
like
don't
go
there,
we
tr.
What
we
try
to
do
is
make
enough
attractive
amenities
within
the
community
that
is
appealing
to
them.
I
think
this
one
is
unique
and
would
require,
in
addition
to
providing
amenities,
some
level
of
education
to
our
residents
to
say,
look
reinforcing.
A
R
A
And
then
just
to
shift
gears
a
little
bit
is
the
crane
accessing
the
homeowners
association
property
on
this
property?
Currently,
and
so
is
there
an
easement
for
that?
Has
it
just
been
kind
of
like
the
way
things
have
been.
A
AC
So
the
pump
station
right
now
is
being
serviced
using
the
parcel
in
question
the
la
our
development.
Without
an
easement,
we
will
be
joining
the
same
irrigation
system.
H
AC
Have
a
an
agreement
in
place
that
we
would
be
joining
the
same
irrigation
system,
so
our
incentives
are
aligned
and
we've
been
talking
to
the
pump
service
company.
They
have
given
us
their
requirements
for
crane
access
and
we
believe
we're
able
to
put
that
in
without
changing
the
plan.
As
you
see
it
now,
just
adding
grass
pavers
that
can
hold
the
weight
of
their
crane
and
we'll
update
the
plans
when
we
get
to
next
level.
Next
stage.
AC
A
We
don't
want
to
be
negotiating
language,
but
would
you
be
open
to
more
specificity
around
those
amenities.
A
A
D
Madam
chair,
I
move
that,
notwithstanding
the
findings
of
fact
and
conclusions
of
law
contained
in
the
staff
report
based
upon
other
information
in
the
staff
report
and
testimony
from
this
public
hearing,
this
commission
recommend
denial
of
project
number:
two:
zero:
zero,
six,
zero,
zero,
zero;
seven
one
dash,
z,
c,
dash
d,
a
dash
m
and
two
zero.
Two
two
zero
one:
two
five
three
dash
msp.
A
Thank
you.
It's
nice
to
get
on
the
table.
Is
there
a
second
for
that
motion?
Commissioner
wickstrom
seconds
the
motion,
so,
mr
burch,
if
you
can
give
us
your
your
thoughts
on
this,
you
know.
D
Just
a
few
things,
the
written
presentation
that
the
applicant
made,
I
thought
was
one
of
the
best
that
I've
read
in
a
very
long
time.
It
was
exceptional
and-
and
it
anticipated
the
strong
headwinds
that
this
project
is
facing
in
the
three
years,
nearly
three
years
that
I've
been
on
this
commission.
I
can't
remember
the
time
when
we've
had
the
municipality,
whose
influence
area
a
project
was
in
and
hundreds
of
applicants
both
being
in
opposition
and
still
approving
the
project,
I've
seen
one
or
the
other,
but
I've
not
seen
both.
D
In
this
case,
you
have
the
city
of
boise,
saying
no,
you
have
the
southwest
ada
county
alliance,
neighborhood
association,
saying
no
you've
got
hundreds
of
residents
saying
no.
Now,
as
ms
leighton
pointed
out,
the
residents
need
to
be
careful
what
they
wish
for,
because
something
commercial
could
go
on
that
property
that
they
are
not
going
to
like
the
neighbors
did
not.
Some
of
the
neighbors
did
not
like
that
mcdonald's
that
went
in
on
the
corner
because
of
the
lights
and
everything
else,
and
the
noise
that
would
be
created.
D
Mr
kelly
wrote
an
extraordinary
letter
and
so
did
many
of
the
other
residents,
and
this
report
was
661
pages
long,
and
I
don't
want
you
to
think
that
we
did
not
read
it
because
I
read
those
letters.
I
read
the
petition,
and
so
it
is
a
tough
call,
because
the
project
looks
like
it
would
be
a
great
project,
but
not
here.
N
N
What
I'm
don't
particularly
care
for
is
the
density
in
that
area
and
just
the
influence
it's
going
to
have
on
the
traffic
for
that
neighborhood,
where
you're
coming
out
on
the
lockwood
and
you're
going
to
have,
the
majority
of
people
are
going
to
be
making
a
left-hand
turn
with
that
extra
traffic.
There
extra
130
units,
it's
going
to
divert
a
lot
of
the
people
back
through
the
neighborhood
up
to
hazel,
with
lake
hazelwood
and
then
they'll
be
making
a
right
turn
up
there.
N
I
was
hoping
actually
we'd.
I
what
I
said
because
I
wanted
to
get
the
conversation
going.
I
was
hoping
we
could
maybe
just
send
it
back
to
staff,
or
I
can
make
a
regular
recommendation
to
send
it
back
to
staff
so
that
they
could
work
on
the
density
of
this
project.
That's
the
one
problem
I
have.
I
don't
I
look
at
that.
There's
your
plat
map
and
it
looks
like
those
units
are
just
stuffed
in
there.
N
The
size
of
the
lots,
there's
there's
a
meandering
trail
that
goes
through
there,
but
there's
not
really
a
lot
of
open
space
for
that
many
units
and
they
are
tightly
bunched
you're
right.
The
commercial
is
is
important.
N
I
I
don't
see
that
there's
going
to
be
a
big
rush
in
that
area
to
bring
in
any
other
large
box
stores,
it's
just
not
they
don't
have
the
population
there.
You
don't
have
the
the
economics
there
with
those
older
homes,
and
I
was
like
it's
only
about
three
and
a
half
miles
to
get
up
to
overland.
I'd
love
to
drive
three
and
a
half
miles
to
get
up
to
all
you
know
the
theaters
and
all
of
the
costco
and
everything
I've
got
to
drive
10
miles
just
get
to
a
walmart.
N
A
So,
thank
you,
commissioner,
exton
or
sure
make
comments.
C
Yeah
I
mean
similar
to
commissioner
wickstrom,
I
personally
just
kind
of
my
vague
familiarness
with
this
area.
You
know
I've
driven
through
it
a
few
times,
but
I
wouldn't
say
I've
been
there.
You
know
a
whole
whole
lot.
You
know
like
every
day
or
anything
but
similar
to
what
wickstrom
and
colsnow
said.
You
know,
this
whole
area
is
very
much
kind
of
the
same
style
of
home,
spread
across
multiple
miles.
C
I
think,
even
though
this
isn't
a
massive
development
in
the
grand
scheme
of
this
whole
area,
I
think
that
nice
change
of
pace
in
terms
of
you
know
home
style
or
product
as
the
applicant
was
referring
to.
I
think
that
could
be
beneficial
to
this
area.
You
know
again
from
you
know
the
50
000
foot
view
looking
down.
C
Where,
then,
you
could
have
access
to
those
parks
and
kind
of
have
that
good
balance
there,
but
at
the
same
time
I
obviously
know
there's
no
way
we
can
require
that,
and
also
I
know,
that's
definitely
something
that
is
not
within
our
purview
to
require
or
ask
even
in
some
cases,
but
I
am
torn
because
in
one
hand
I
do
think
you
know
this
change
of
you
know.
Housing
type
would
be
good
and
I
also
do
agree
the
commercial
side
of
things
I
you
know.
To
paraphrase
what
the
applicant
said.
C
You
know
this
is
kind
of
a
very
pseudo
isolated
area,
in
the
sense
that
you
really
don't
have
a
lot
else
going
on,
besides
all
of
those
homes,
but
at
the
same
time
I
don't
think
there'll
be
any
like
massive
rush
to
develop
something
or,
in
my
opinion
I
feel
like
it
would
have
already
happened
at
this
point.
You
should
at
least
get
the
ball
rolling
on
developing
something
on
this
land
from
a
commercial
perspective.
C
So
I
don't
know
how
strong
the
argument
of
just
let
it
sit
would
be
because
I
think
if
you
just
let
it
sit
either
a
similar
product
will
come
before
us
in
a
different
way
of
a
rezone
or
again
it
might
be
something
that
you
know
10
20
years,
even
potentially
you'll
have
you
know
a
walmart
or
something
which
then
again
at
that
point.
Who
knows
if
everyone
will
be
happy
with
a
walmart
there
versus
something
else?
So
I
think
this
is
definitely
a
sticky
one
where
there
is
no
great
answer.
C
E
I
guess
I'm
probably
one
of
the
most
knowledgeable
on
this
area
and
the
hazelwood
subdivision.
I've
done
a
lot
of
work
in
the
hazelwood
subdivision
and
I
want
to
let
you
guys
know
it's
a
it's
a
beautiful
subdivision.
You
know,
I
mean
the
developers
the
builders
in
there
have
done
a
fantastic
job.
I
mean
they've
bought
a
great
product.
I
mean
you
guys,
you
guys.
Are
you
have
this
massive
park
in
the
front
I
mean
they
did.
E
I
mean
it,
it
may
I
mean,
but
I
mean
the
the
house,
is,
you
know
economically
wise,
especially
right
now
with
where
the
economy
is
and
then
the
housing
pricing
and
where
everybody
is
in
this
is
I
don't
see
the
numbers
working
to
where
people
would
eliminate
those
houses?
So
I
don't
see
that
stuff
going
going
anywhere.
I
think,
in
my
opinion,
and
after
being
you
know
growing
up
here
and
going
to
the
pauls
and
and
now
the
albertsons
and
the
bowling
alley.
That's
now
turned
into
the
library
and
watching
those
businesses
fail.
E
I
think,
to
be
honest,
I
think
this
piece
of
parcel
screams
for
residential
and
the
reason
I
say
it
screams
for
residential
is
because
of
the
times
and
trips
I've
been
through
there
and
the
amount
of
houses.
I've
worked
in
in
hazelwood
subdivision,
you
know,
and
what
I'm
afraid
will
happen
is
something
like
that.
A
big
box
store,
but
I
don't.
I
don't
see
anybody
doing
that
either
and
the
reason
is
is
exactly
which
wixton
has
brought
up.
E
E
E
I
think
this
you
know,
maybe
there's
could
be
more
common
area
and
more
better
to
help
keep
people
from
going
into
hazelwood
subdivision.
I
get
that.
I
I
think
that
an
entrance
out
onto
a
five
mile
is
me
looking
at
this
property
on
that
would
be
beneficial
because
it
would
steer
people
from
trying
to
sneak
their
way
through
hazelwood
subdivision.
As
far
as
traffic
goes,
I
think
it's
a
beautiful
project.
I
think
that
the
reason
I
like
it
so
much
is
because
I
know
where
it's
going.
E
I
think
it's
a
great,
I
think
it's
a
great
product
and
a
great
project,
and
I
think
that
I
think
that
no
matter
what
happens
here,
I
I
would
bet
that
that's
still
going
to
always
go
back
to
residential
and
and
commercial
wise,
I
mean
again,
I
mean
traffic.
Is
traffic?
Is
going
to
be
the
traffic
on
that
type
of
stuff
and
the
harder
commercial
becomes,
especially
with
everything
that
people
can
order
online
and
have
delivered
to
their
house?
E
I
mean
we're
commercials
going
to
get
smaller
and
smaller
and
smaller,
unfortunately,
and
to
have
that
nice
of
a
product.
I
think
that
product
will
actually
bring
more
value
to
hazelwood
subdivision
as
far
as
their
homes
and
and
the
quality
of
their
product
I've.
I
I
know
some
of
the
clients
and
and
stuff
of
that
that
have
done
those
type
of
things
you
know
and
those
and
it's
it's
a
good
quality
piece.
It's
so
with
with
that
being
said,
that's
that's
kind
of
that's
kind
of
my
take
on
it.
E
I
I
kind
of
like
the
idea
like.
If
I
don't,
I
don't
think
I'm
not
in
for
the
denial,
maybe
I'm
in
for
more
of
us
more
of
a
staff
level
go
back
and
and
talk
to
that
or
you
know
or
the
approval
side
of
things,
but
just
because
I
I
I
know
that
that's
probably
going
to
go
residential
and
I
know
that's
not
what
some
of
you
guys
want
to
hear,
and
I
know
that's
not
ideal
for
what
you
guys
want
to
hear.
E
But
with
that
being
smaller
versus
the
two
three-story
apartment
complexes,
you
know
that's
going
on
the
north
side
of
that
around
the
walgreens.
You
know
I
mean
I
would
much
rather
have
that
than
than
what's
going
on
over
there.
So
that's
kind
of
my
take
on
it
all.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
too,
I
grew
up
on
lake
hazel
and
so
I've
been
going
to
the
the
paul's
store
there
for
a
really
long
time,
and
so
this
is
literally
in
an
area
that
I
have
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
it's
been
16
years
that
it's
been
commercial
and
it's
never
been
developed,
and
I
think
that
tells
us
something
that
that
it's
not
as
attractive
as
commercial.
A
I,
I
am
disappointed
that
the
it's
a
beautiful
project
and
I
love
the
ones
story
design
and
I
love
the
concept
and
I
love
the
idea
of
having
these
kinds
of
units.
I
think
about
my
in-laws
and
I
think
about
people
that
I
know
that
would
love
this
kind
of
a
place
to
have
a
dog
in
their
backyard
young
families.
I
mean
just
it's
a
beautiful,
beautiful,
beautiful
project.
A
I
am
disappointed
that
the
the
the
applicant
and
the
homeowners
haven't
been
able
to
get
together
and
come
up
with
some
creative
solutions
for
for
what
the
people
will
do
and
the
use
of
the
facilities
and-
and
I
can
agree
with
commissioner
burch-
that
this
is
the
first
one-
we've
seen
where
there's
overwhelmingly
this
much
opposition
and
then
also
having
the
city
of
boise,
not
not
approve
it.
A
So
part
of
me
is
you
know,
we
make
recommendations
and
then
either
the
the
applicant
or
the
other
parties
can
appeal
those
you
know
recommending,
or
it
automatically
goes
to
the
planning
and
zoning
commissioners,
and
then
they
get
to
to
make
the
final
decision
and
they're
the
ones
that
are
elected.
A
So
I
realized
that
I
I'm
probably
gonna.
A
C
You
know,
kids
that
will
end
up
in
that
park.
You
know,
I
think
that
is
like
an
inevitable
part
of
just
this
whole
area.
So
I
do
agree,
I
think,
having
some
form
of
agreement
or
something
or
maybe
even
potentially,
you
know
not
having
one
unit
and
having
a
larger
park
in
this
development
could
potentially
be
a
compromise.
C
C
You
know
more
of
a
community
style,
renting
area,
especially
with
that
you
know
on-site
property
management,
247
you're,
not
just
gonna
get.
You
know
a
large
swath
of
people
that,
if
you're
unhappy,
because
of
whatever
reason
you
don't
know
who
to
call
you
know
there-
is
that
on-site
person
that
can
then
go
and
not
be
like
hey
turn
the
music
off
it's
past
quiet
hours
or
something
like
that,
you
know,
but
I
do
think
it
is
still
unfortunate
that
your
renters
do
have
that
bad
rep
and
to
me
the
density
side
of
things.
C
I
think
the
density
is
fine.
You
know,
I
think
anything,
less
dense,
just
kind
of
would
get
lost
in
the
rest
of
this
neighborhood.
Anything
more
dense
would
be
unwieldy,
I
think,
potentially
in
terms
of
traffic
and
everything.
So
I
do
think
this,
potentially
it's
the
sweet
spot,
but
those
are
kind
of
the
rest
of
my
feelings
at
the
moment.
A
A
My
feeling
on
density
is
I
like
the
density,
because
it's
right
next
door
to
a
grocery
store,
a
pharmacy
and
a
library
and
that's
kind
of
been
my
mantra
when
we've
had
projects
come
before
us.
I'm
like
how
far
away
are
you
from
the
grocery
store,
and
this
is
right
across
the
street,
so.
H
C
N
Yeah,
just
for
the
for
the
residents
there
and
his
adjacent
development
they're
just
doing
a
little
research
that
the
pig
company,
that
is
a
very
reputable
company
they've,
got
some
great
projects
and
to
have
them
come
in
and
and
do
a
design
in
your
areas.
I
would
say
it's
an
honor,
but
they
they
they're
they're
reputable
and
they
they
do
a
good
product
and
seem
to
manage
them.
Well,
I'm
here
you're
lucky
to
have
gotten
that
far.
E
I
think
I
think
the
other
thing
that's
inedible
on
that
piece
of
property
as
well
or
where
everything
is
going.
The
rental
aspect
it's
coming,
I
mean
that's
where
it's
going
to
head,
I
mean
with
I'm,
I'm
pretty
know
a
lot
about
interest
rates
and
all
that
type
of
stuff,
and
it's
going
to
get
to
where
this
is
affordable
product
with
what
the
interest
rates
are
going
at
and
people
are
younger
generation.
E
My
kids,
other
kids
are
going
to
have
a
real,
tough
time
being
able
to
buy
a
house,
and
that's
where
this
is
going
to
come
into
play.
I
mean
this
gives
them
a
nice
home
for
a
cost-effective
price
and
the
only
way
that
I'd
assume
these
guys
are
making
the
numbers
work
is
the
higher
density.
E
As
far
as
I
mean
I
get
the
office
retail
down
below
and
that
above,
but
you
could
be,
you
could
be
getting
something
that's
three
stories
and
to
me
you're
now
bringing
you're
now
bringing
the
city
out
look
more
out
to
the
suburbs.
In
my
opinion,
which
you
know
I
mean
maybe
that'll
come
across,
but
in
my
opinion
I
think
this
is
a
very
in
being
in
business
in
the
construction
industry
for
20
some
odd
years.
This
is
a
very
great
product,
so.
A
H
A
I
was
going
to
ask
commissioner
birch
with
the
with
the
denial
we
have
to
identify
the
reason
for
the
denial,
so
that
not
like
a
specific
you
know
for
a
for
the
reasoning.
No.
D
C
Madam
chair,
commissioner,
just
as
a
little
rebuttal
against
that,
I
think,
with
the
storage
unit
that
was
in
this
area,
it
was
a
very
similar
situation.
The
only
difference,
obviously,
besides,
like
the
scope
of
the
project
and
everything
like
that,
but
the
city
of
boise
also
recommended
denial
of
the
storage
unit,
one
for
the
exact
same
reasoning.
So
from
the
justification
point
of
view.
C
Given
that
being
your
justification,
I
don't
know
necessarily
how
fair
that
is,
because
to
me
the
only
additional
layer
would
be
the
letter
from
ada
county
or
the
southwest
ada
county
alliance
and
obviously
the
other
letters
that
were
submitted.
So
I
think,
if
we
do
pursue
a
denial,
I
think
it
would
be
potentially
in
everyone's
best
interest,
to
also
be
able
to
cite
something
else,
just
given
prior
precedent
prior
things
that
we
voted
on
within
this
standing
board
that
everyone
here
has
voted
on.
A
My
memory
is
not
that
good.
Mr
burks,
you
have
any
comments.
A
So
any
other
comments
I
mean,
I
think
I
would.
I
would
counter
that
each
property
is
unique.
That's.
C
A
And-
and
I
think
the
reasons
that
there
was
a
that
property
had
had
zero
interest
for
a
really
long
time
and
I
think
it
was
a
different
situation.
So
I
I
think
I
could
argue
that
this
property
is
different
than
that
property
for
a
lot
of
unique
reasons
and.
L
D
F
A
And
so
let
the
minutes
reflect
that,
and
I
guess
we
technically
need
to
commissioner
burch
if
you
could
table
it
so
that
it
could
come
forward
to
the
next
meeting
with
the
paperwork.
So
we've
got
a
table
work.
The
we've
got
a
table.
The
paperwork
is
that
is
that
right.
F
C
D
D
A
Yes,
yes,
and
so
that's
been
approved
by
commissioner
wickstrom,
who
was
the
original
person,
so
this
motion
has
been
denied
and
then
or
it's
been
has
been
moved
that
we
have
a
recommendation
to
the
board
of
board
of
county
commissioners
of
a
denial,
and
this
will
give
everybody
lots
of
time
to
go
back
and
and
re
re-figure
it
out.
A
So,
thank
you.
Our
next
item
is
the
minutes
from
august
11th.
I
can't
do
the
motion,
but
I
read
the
minutes
and
they
look
good.
So
if
somebody
can
do
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes,
madam.
C
A
A
All
those
in
is
there
a
second
second
commissioner,
birch
seconded
that
motion,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye,
all
opposed,
say,
nate,
okay,
they're
approved,
and
then
we
get
to
find
out
the
cool
stuff
that
happened
at
the
word
of
county
commissioner
meeting
last
night.
N
G
It
did
eventually
so
ma'am,
chair
commissioners,
as
as
you
guys
have
already
alluded
to
the
boards
hearing
last
night
was
a
I
really
like
the
for
like
the
agenda.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
items
on
the
agenda,
so
the
first
I'm
under
old
business
was
a
time
extension
for
a
master
site
plan,
and
this
was
a
board
level.
Time
extension
for
an
event
services,
the
lowe's
family
farm
said
they
had
done
their
project
in
two
phases.
G
At
the
previous
public
hearing.
There
were
complaints
of
people
parking
along
eagle
road
and
the
board
wanted
the
applicant
to
provide
additional
information
on
parking,
as
the
board
is
concerned
that
they
didn't
have
enough
parking
on
site.
So
the
applicant
did
indicate
that
they
have
increased
on-site
parking
since
their
last
season
to
handle
the
additional
crowds
and
the
board
did
approve
the
time
extension.
G
G
West
beacon,
light
road
in
the
rut
district,
and
this
appeal
was
tabled
from
the
boards
july
13
2022
public
hearing
and
at
that
public
carrying
the
board
had
had
had
the
public
care
remained
open
for
written
comments
on
some
specific
items
that
were
identified
by
the
board,
and
these
items
are
included
for
the
applicant
to
further
research
and
provide
information
regarding
locating
the
proposed
cell
tower
blm
property
for
development
services
to
hire
a
third-party
consultant
to
review
the
application
materials
submit
for
the
project
for
development
services,
staff
to
provide
a
map
of
all
cell
towers
and
carriers,
as
well
as
all
existing
proposed
housing
within
a
five-mile
radius.
G
For
the
ada
county,
illegal
team
to
research.
The
telecommunications
act
of
1996
to
determine
how
wireless
broadband
is
regulated
for
the
appellate
to
provide
proof
of
diminished
land
values
in
the
surrounding
area,
resulting
from
the
proposed
cell
tower
and
for
development
services
staff
to
research,
the
sea
of
eagles
reasoning
for
recommending
denial
of
the
cell
tower.
G
So
the
county
did
hire
a
third-party
consultant
val
technologies
to
review
the
application,
and
the
consultant
essentially
indicated
that
this
particular
application
or
case
needed
a
more
comprehensive
technical
analysis
to
determine
lack
of
coverage
and
and
then
they
also.
He
also
mentioned
that
assumptions
made
by
both
the
applicant,
the
appellant
about
technical
aspects
of
the
wireless
facility
and
how
it's
best
used
to
serve
the
community,
and
so
the
board
kind
of
had
a
had
a
very
good
conversation
with
the
consultant
and
obviously
the
applicant.
The
appellant
and
the
board
had
discussed
tabling
this
application.
G
A
G
A
H
C
G
We've,
given
you
guys,
have
proved
it.
C
C
G
On
beacon
lights,
this
is
north
of
beacon,
light
west
of
linder.
A
H
G
So
as
a
sign
of
that
being,
the
consultant
really
provided
a
lot
of
really
good
information.
I
had
learned
a
lot
just
saying
through
the
hearing,
and
so
so
I
think
that
was
really,
I
think,
a
really
good
beneficial
thing
for
the
county.
That
consultant,
because
it
really,
in
my
perspective,
it
kind
of
shows
a
bit
more
technical
information,
and
so
it's
really
more
hard
data
and
hard
facts
of
of
cell
towers
and
how
they
work
and
and
how
changing
populations
affect
cell
coverage,
and
so
it
was
a
really.
C
So
I
do
have
a
question
for
you
with
the
consultant,
so
I
will
confess
I
am
not
the
expert
on
telecommunications
at
all.
So
when
it
comes
back
to
us
with
the
massive
report
and
all
the
new
information
will
the
consultant
also
be
coming
to
that
meeting
as
like
a?
Let
me
walk
you
through
it
all
or
is
it
going
to
be
more
of
a
here?
You
go
I'm
just
curious.
I.
G
Am
not
sure
that
something,
maybe
I
would
need
to
talk
with
maybe
rich
or
leon,
would
maybe
need
to
to
see
if
that's
a
possibility
for
the
consultant
to
maybe
you
know,
come
to
that
pelvic
hearing
when
that
hearing
gets
scheduled
for
you
guys,
okay,.
G
And
this
was
a
zoning
ordinance
map,
amendment
development
agreement
and
variance
to
allow
a
non-conforming
parcel
created
prior
to
january
1st
1985
in
the
rural
preservation
district
to
be
eligible
for
a
building
permit,
and
this
is
the
property
that's
located
on
east
columbia
road.
So
this
is
kind
of
just
kind
of
east
of
micron.
G
The
commission.
You
had
heard
this
application
on
june
23rd
and
recommended
approval
this
application
to
the
board.
The
board
did
find
that
the
application
didn't
did
approve
the
variance
they
didn't
they
found
out.
The
application
didn't
constitute
a
special
riot
privilege
because
there
were
other
properties
in
the
neighborhood
which
have
homes
on
them
that
are
less
than
10
acres.
G
And
then
the
next
item
was
project
number
20060219.
G
Cpa-Dam
and
project
number
two:
zero:
zero,
two
zero:
two:
two
zero
one:
three,
two:
nine
v,
a
c-
and
this
was
the
proposed
comprehensive
plan
text,
amendment
development,
agreement,
modification
and
vacation
to
alter
condition.
Number
61
of
the
dry
creek
ranch's
plant
community's
development
agreement,
and
the
proposed
modification
would
change
the
requirement
for
dry
creek
ranch
to
donate
a
school
site
to
the
west
as
school
district
and
instead
allow
the
site
to
be
utilized
for
any
public
school
entity,
including
charter
schools.
G
And
then
there
would
be
a
vacation
of
dry
creek
ranch
subdivisions
number,
five
platinum,
number,
18.
and
the
property
is
located
in
the
dry
creek
ranch
plant
community,
the
commission.
You
had
heard
this
application
on
august
11th,
both
you
and
staff
had
recommended
denial.
The
application,
the
applicant
at
the
public
hearing
expressed
frustration
with
the
lack
of
commitment
from
the
west
a
school
district
about
when
the
district
will
build
a
skull
and
dry
creek
ranch.
G
The
school
district
did
provide
correspondence
that
they
still
wanted.
The
seven
acre
scientific
ranch.
However,
they
didn't
send
a
representative
to
the
actual
hearing
to
testify,
so
they
just
had
given
conor
an
email.
Along
with.
I
think,
the
letter
that
you
a
guys
had
received
during
the
first
public
hearing
a
number
of
dry
creek
ranch
residents,
basically
expressed
some
displeasure
with
the
school
district.
I
think
they
were
unhappy
with
the
45-minute
school
bus
rides.
G
Their
kids
have
to
take
to
get
to
seven
oaks
elementary,
both
in
the
morning
in
the
in
the
afternoon,
and
then
they
also
believe
that
school
would
foster
a
better
sense
of
community
within
the
dry
creek
ranch
community
itself.
G
The
board
did
vote
to
approve
the
project
and
based
in
the
application,
was
tabled
to
their
october
12th,
probably
caring
for
revised
findings
of
fact
and
conclusions
of
law
and
at
the
next
hearing
that
the
board
has.
They
did
want
the
applicant
to
weigh
on
three
additional
things
that
they
had
just
some
more
questions
about.
The
first
item
was
the
grades
that
the
school
serve.
G
The
second
was
the
geographic
boundary
for
the
charter
school,
and
the
third
was
the
number
of
kids
that
would
attend
the
school
and
so
that
any
questions
on
that
I
am
and
then
our
next
item
was
project
number
202201484
s
pr
fp-
and
this
was
a
preliminary
private
road
and
floodplain
application
for
residential
subdivision,
consisting
of
15
residential
lots
and
one
common
lot,
and
this
property
is
located
at
2421
west
dec
alley
road.
It
contains
80
acres.
G
The
commission
had
heard
this
application
on
august
11th.
Both
you
and
staff
had
recommended
approval.
This
application
to
the
board
a
few
neighboring
property
owners
did
attend
the
board's
public
hearing.
The
neighbors
are
generally
in
favor
of
development
and
would
like
to
develop
their
properties
in
the
future.
However,
they
had
expressed
some
concerns
to
the
board
and
asked
for
this
for
the
application
to
be
tabled
for
them
to
mean
talk
with
the
developer.
G
12Th
public
carry
for
the
applicant
to
meet
with
the
neighboring
property
owners
to
discuss
some
of
those
concerns.
Any
questions
on
that
item
and
their
next
item
is
project
number
six
one
v
and
this
was
a
variance
to
construct
an
accessory
structure
within
the
required
arterial
road
setbacks
of
the
rural
residential
district.
G
G
G
And
this
was
a
zoning
ordinance
map,
amendment
development
agreement
and
property
boundary
adjustment
to
rezone,
18.38
acres
from
the
royal
residential
district
to
the
rut
district
to
create
two
legal
parcels
with
a
five
acre
minimum,
and
this
property
was
lo,
is
located
at
9,
595,
50,
south
10
mile
road
at
the
corner
of
10
mile
road
and
hubbard
road.
The
commission
had
heard
this
application
on
july
14th.
G
Both
staff
and
the
commission
had
recommended
approval.
This
application
to
the
board.
The
project
consists
of
a
0.89
acre,
parcel
and
18
acre
parcel
the
applicant
wanted
to
increase
the
size
of
the
0.89
acre
parcel
through
a
property
boundary
adjustment
to
five
acres.
In
order
to
do
that,
the
property
needed
to
be
re-zoned
to
the
rut
district
because
there
wasn't,
because
the
rit
district
allows
for
five
acre
lots
and
the
board
did
approve
this
application.
G
And
this
was
a
zoning
ordinance
map
and
text
amendment
to
reduce
the
cuna
area
of
sea
impact
area
by
approximately
762
acres,
and
this
is
an
area
that's
generally
located
south
of
10
mile
creek
road
between
the
new
york
canal
and
coal
road.
Both
the
commission
and
staff
have
recommended
approval
of
this
application
to
the
board
on
july
28th
and
the
board
voted
to
approve
of
the
application.
G
And
this
dash
s-
and
this
is
a
primary
platform-
two
lot
subdivision-
the
property
is
located
at
5431
west
victory
road
and
contains
12.24
acres.
The
commission
had
heard
this
application
august
11
2022
and
both
the
commission
and
staff
had
recommended
approval.
This
application
to
the
board.
There
is
no
opposition
to
the
application
and
the
board
did
approve
the
application
and
then
our
next
item-
and
our
last
item
was
project
number
2022-0122.
G
G
G
There
amelia
and
eli
were
there
as
well,
so
we
were
here
until
about
9
45.
Last
night,
oh
my
gosh.
D
C
A
Yeah
that
would
have
just
been
exhausting.
So
thank
you
for
that.
That
plan
appreciate
it
great
job
today,
guys
that
was
everybody
said
that
peace
and
I
feel,
like
everybody,
got
a
chance
to
see
what
they
thought.
C
AE
E
It's
it's
beautiful,
I
mean,
and
the
problem
is
it's
I
mean
I've
lived
out
there,
almost
my
whole
life
and
that's
right,
the
commercial.
The
numbers
don't
work
because
all
the
houses
have
been
so
I
mean
back
in
the
70s
and
80s
my
dad
lives
in
an
acre
lot.
Two
acres
is
what
he
has
and,
and
so
it's
so
spread
out
that
you
look
past
there
and
I
can
see
where
her
numbers
came
in
on
that
commercial
side
of
things,
that
it
wasn't
making
sense.
H
AE
A
Yeah
it'll
be
interesting.
It'll
be
interesting
to
see
what
it
looks
like
when
it
gets
to
the
right
to
the
board
of
commissioners
yeah.
H
AE
H
E
A
E
A
So
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
because
all
those
were
on
the
record,
so
if
somebody
wanted
to
watch
it,
they
could
see
it.
So
I'm
gonna
call
the
meeting
adjourn.
Oh,
they
weren't
bad
comments
or
comments
that
we
made
before.
So
I
call
the
meeting
adjourned
and
we'll
go
go
forward.