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A
Thank
you,
commissioner,
exton
here,
commissioner
wickstrom
here,
commissioner
brown
here,
commissioner
colson
here,
and
I
am
vice
chairman
and
commissioner
burch
and
I'll
be
conducting
the
meeting
this
evening
in
order
for
the
commission
to
conduct
this
hearing
in
an
orderly
manner.
We
are
giving
opportunity
for
staff
to
give
their
presentation.
After
that,
we
will
ask
questions
of
the
staff.
The
applicant
will
then
come
up
and
give
their
presentation.
A
Anybody
from
the
public
that
wishes
to
speak
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes
when
they
come
up
to
the
podium,
give
their
name
and
address,
and
then
we
will
offer
the
opportunity
for
applicants
to
give
a
rebuttal
thereafter.
We
will
turn
it
over
to
staff
again
for
questions
and
then
close
the
public
hearing.
I
believe
the
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
two:
zero:
zero,
six,
zero,
zero,
seven
one
dash
z,
c,
dash
d,
a
dash
m
and
two
zero.
A
B
Thank
you,
commissioner
birch.
So
the
item
before
you
that
you
just
stated
it
has
been
requested
by
the
applicant
as
well
as
staff,
to
table
this
item
to
the
august
11th
2022
public
hearing
before
the
planning
and
zoning
commission.
D
A
Thank
you,
commissioner
brown.
Is
there
any
discussion
all
in
that
case
we'll
go
for
a
vote
all
in
favor
of
tabling
this
motion,
please
say
aye
aye
any
in
favor
any
opposed,
nay.
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
commissioner
bledman
any
opposed,
please
say,
nay,
all
right.
The
motion
unanimously
passes.
Thank
you
very
much.
E
Cuna
hosted
a
public
hearing
regarding
the
proposal
on
december
8th,
the
cuna
planning
and
zoning
commission
recommended
approval
at
a
hearing
on
april
12th,
and
it
was
approved
by
the
city
council
on
june
21st,
just
as
some
background
on
cuna's
area
of
city
impacts.
The
area
outlined
in
white
is
kima's
original
area
of
impact
and
that
utilizes
a
past
cuna
comprehensive
plan.
E
E
E
E
Yellow
line,
of
course,
is
kena's
area,
then
packed
so
you'll
see,
there's
a
little
kind
of
section
of
land
that
runs
in
between
the
two
areas
of
impact
that's
outside
either
and
then
just
kind
of
highlighted.
Some
of
the
developments
you'll
see
falcon
crest
golf
course.
The
butts
this
property
just
to
the
to
the
to
the
west
southwest
and
that's
a
golf
course
and
a
master
plan
community,
which
has
been
approved
by
cuna
and
then,
as
the
property
is
within
area
of
city
impact
b,
which
is
subject
to
ada
county's
comp
plan.
A
F
E
Yeah,
mr
chair,
commissioner,
blittman
what
what
likely
prompted
this
request
from
cuna?
There
was
a
large
master-planned
community
proposed
here
several
years
ago,
back
in
2019,
it
was
ultimately
denied
by
the
kinase
city
council
in
2020,
based
partly
on
its
distance
from
the
city
center
kennedy's
had
some
concerns
about
providing
city
services
to
this
property.
E
A
E
A
G
Good
evening,
commissioners,
my
name
is
dave
jorgensen,
my
address
is
14254
west
battenberg
drive,
boise
and
here
to
just
testify
briefly
it
recognizing
the
process
is
what's
gone
through
we're
very
familiar
with
the
property.
As
I
understand
it's
all,
under
one
ownership,
there's
some
topography
challenges
which
makes
it
quite
different,
quite
a
bit
lower
and
has
some
challenges,
as
staff
had
mentioned,
with
regard
to
providing
services
from
the
city
to
the
site.
G
A
A
D
D
C
A
D
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much.
Anybody
else
have
any
questions
comments
regarding
this
make
your
application
all
right.
I
believe
that
we
are
ready
for
a
vote
on
the
motion.
All
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye.
F
B
Thank
you,
commissioners.
You
are
correct.
You
have
application
front
of
you.
Two
zero.
Two,
two
zero
one,
two
two
three
dash
s,
that's
p
r.
This
is
belvedere
estates.
Subdivision
applicant
is
tili's.
Lane
survey.
B
So
the
property
we're
going
to
be
discussing
here
is
kind
of
a
west,
meridian
or
west
of
city
limits
getting
close
to
the
the
county
line
there
just
south
of
the
freeway
north
of
overland
road.
B
So
this
is
a
preliminary
plat
and
private
road
extension
for
a
four
lot
subdivision
known
as
belvedere
estates.
Property
is
located
at
5680
west
overland
road
and
contains
27.3
acres
in
the
rural
urban
transition
district.
It
is
addressed
off
overland
road,
but
this
is
an
old
address
that
doesn't
actually
have
access
and
frontage
from
overland
road.
B
Each
of
the
four
lots
will
contain
frontage
and
access
on
the
proposed
private
road,
which
will
be
within
a
50-foot
wide
easement
belvedere
estate
sub
will
be
developed
in
a
phased
approach.
Two
different
phases.
The
first
phase-
will
be
a
lot
one
and
lot
two,
which
you
see
there
in
the
red
and
the
blue
and
then
phase
two,
which
will
be
for
lots
three
and
four,
and
the
yellow
and
green.
B
So
prior
to
the
phase
2
of
the
project,
a
hillside,
development,
submittal
and
approval
will
be
required
for
the
development
of
that
private
road.
You'll
see
there
there's
some
some
contours
for
within
lot
three,
and
so
any
development
in
slopes
of
15
or
greater
will
require
that
hillside
development
application,
so
that'll
be
required.
At
that
time,
all
lots
will
be
a
minimum
of
five
acres
to
meet
the
rural
urban
transition.
B
B
Some
key
conditions
here
are
from
the
city
of
meridian.
You
can
see
there
their
comments,
they're
requiring
a
sewer
easement
between
a
few
of
the
lots
here
and
those
are
conditions
of
approval
within
the
findings
of
facts
before
you,
staff
recommends
approval
of
this
application
with
conditions
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
I
B
Commissioner
burch
commissioner
wickstrom,
so
the
each
lot
will
have
its
own
septic
and
well
as
their
five
acre
lots
within
the
rut
district
which
is
allowed,
but
that
that
easement
is
for
future
sewer
connections
from
the
city.
So,
as
a
city
expands
more
westward,
they
will
have
that
easement
in
place
already.
So
then
they
can
provide
service
to
the
area
as
a
whole,
but
as
of
right
now,
these
will
be
on
individual,
well
and
septic.
A
J
We
work
closely
with
them
and
with
the
city
of
meridian
to
allow
for
their
future
planning.
They
have
stated
that
it's
in
the
meridian
area
of
impact
and
as
a
result,
they
have
a
master
sewer
plan
and
we
have
granted
them
easements
will
grant
them
easements,
as
part
of
the
plot
talked
with
all
the
approving
agencies.
J
The
ada
county
highway
district,
a
county
engineer
as
far
as
design
of
the
road
and
and
the
nampa
meridian
irrigation
district
for
their
approvals,
and
we
feel
that
the
conditions
that
have
been
placed
on
on
the
subdivision
are
adequate
and
we
we're
read
them
and
and
they're
proof
if
there
are
any
questions
just
to
keep
it
short.
I
don't
want
to
repeat
everything
that
connor
said
just
he
does
a
good
job.
I
J
Well,
there's
interest
in
any
change
of
course,
and
and
their
main
concern
was
irrigation,
keeping
the
irrigation
going
through
the
property.
There
are
a
lot
of
people
there
that
had
sort
of
concerns
that
we
might
not
pipe
the
ditch
or
do
it
adequately
and
while
we
assure
them
that
they
would
matter
of
fact,
there
was
a
one
of.
J
There
was
from
the
meridian
and
he
assured
them
that
they
would
be
taken
care
of,
and,
of
course,
the
process
requires.
It.
A
A
Commissioners
have
any
questions
for
mr
lindstrom,
okay,
seeing
none
and
we
would
give
the
applicant
an
opportunity
for
rebuttal,
but
since
there
has
been
no
comments,
I
presume
that
you're
good.
Is
that
correct,
good,
all
right?
Okay,
we're
looking
for
a
motion
one
way
or
the
other
with
respect
to
this
application.
C
Based
upon
the
findings
of
fact,
conclusions
of
law,
I
would
like
to
move
to
approve
project
two
zero.
Two,
two
zero
one,
two,
two,
three
s
p
r.
A
A
A
A
C
A
C
A
D
H
So
at
the
board
meeting
last
night
it
was
a
pretty
brief
agenda.
We
had
a
three
lot
subdivision
out
on
robinson
road
gosh,
I'm
trying
to
stand
back
from
this
mic.
It's
a
little
hot.
I
H
You'll
recall
this
one:
there
were
some
large
cafos
in
the
area
came
through
you
first
and
was
at
the
board
last
night
in
general.
The
board
seemed
in
favor
of
approving
it,
but
they
did
table
it
to
ask
for
some
additional
information.
H
They
want
more
information
on
the
wells
in
the
area.
That's
kind
of
an
ongoing
request
of
the
commissioners
in
terms
of
water
quality
and
water
availability,
so
staff's
working
to
get
them
that
they
also
are
interested
in
using
something
called
a
nuisance
waiver,
which
was
one
of
the
things
that
well
a
tool
that
staff
was
unaware
existed.
H
But
it
is
a
thing
that
can
be
recorded
against
a
property
to
basically
alert
a
property
owner
that
they
live
near
a
cafe,
and
this
is
how
a
capo
works,
and
so
that
was
a
proposal
from
the
dairyman's
association
and
their
attorney,
and
so
the
board
tabled
it
to
explore
that
and
see
if
it
was
something
appropriate
for
this
particular
project.
H
H
A
capo
it's
a
contained
animal
feeding
and
operation.
Sorry,
it's
trying
to
figure
out
yeah!
So
cafo,
I'm
pronouncing
an
acronym,
but
everyone
does
that,
but
cafos
yeah,
it's
basically
the
large
feedlots
either
for
dairy
animals
or
other.
You
know
other
animals
like
that,
and
there
are
several
out
in
that
area,
as
mr
commissioner
birch
pointed
out,
because
that's
kind
of
your
neck
of
the
woods.
So
that's
right.
H
The
nuisance
that
it's
a
tool
that
can
be
used,
it's
not
an
ordinance,
it's
basically
almost
like
a
deed
restriction.
That's
probably
a
bad
way
to
describe
it.
It's
something!
That's
recorded
against
the
property,
so
that
future
purchasers
are
made
aware
that
they
are
purchasing
land
in
an
area
that
is
impacted
by
a
cafo
and
that's
it's
a.
H
I
mean
yeah,
so
it's
it's
not
it's
not
anything
that
we
jump
in
and
ask
it
be
phrased,
a
certain
way,
it's
more
of
a
a
real
estate
tool,
but
our
commissioners
have
entertained
the
idea
of
requiring
it
as
a
condition
of
approval.
Would
that
be
done
so
we
would
receive
probably
recorded
copies
of
those
to
confirm
that
they
were
actually
recorded
against
the
lots.
So
any
other
questions
on
that
or
cafos.
H
I
don't
know
a
lot
about
cafos,
but
deed
restrictions
I
or
disclosures,
or
what
did
you
call
it
again?
The
not
disclosure
the
that'll
be
called
the
disclosures,
yeah
or
yeah.
I
know
more
about
those
than
I
do
about.
Capitalism.
H
G
H
H
H
H
It
was
an
appeal
brought
forth
by
both
the
business
owner
and
a
neighbor,
so
so
yeah
another
one
of
those
we
had
that
with
dude
dewalt
as
well,
but
so
that
that
will
move
forward.
There
will
be
a
review
in
about
a
year
and
that
will
be
brought
before
planning
and
zoning.
Actually,
the
staff
made
a
point
of
asking
who
gets
to
see
that
in
the
year,
so
you
guys
will
get
to
see
that
in
about
a
year
so
and
see
how
it's
performing,
but
that's
pretty
much
it.
H
No,
no
so
this
property
on
one
side
is
red,
chair,
lavender,
that's
the
lavender
farm
and
then
on.
The
other
side
is
the
gentleman
who
lives
out
east
in
virginia
and
is
planning
to
move
out
here
and
build
the
home
and
live
in
the
home,
but
hasn't
quite
made
that
move
yet,
and
it
was
the
appeal
of
that
gentleman
and
his
wife
basically
saying
they
didn't
want.
H
This
is
a
neighbor,
and
then
there
were
several
people
in
the
neighborhood
that
opposed
it
as
well,
and
several
people
in
the
product
community
who
supported
it
so
yeah.
It
was
basically
the
same
thing.
You
saw
a
bit
more
abbreviated,
though
not
as
many
people
in
the
audience,
as
you
guys
had
in
both
rounds,
so
yeah
and
that's
all
I've
got
for
you.
H
I
was
saying
we
only
have
one
hearing
next
month,
which
feels
like
the
first
time
in
forever
that
we've
only
had
one
hearing
in
a
month
so
enjoy
your
august,
and
then
commissioner
brown,
I
officially,
could
say
goodbye
thanks
for
all
your
your
time
and
thanks
for
making
this
meeting,
we
had
plenty
of
plenty
of
attendance,
but
you
know
it's
always
a
little
dicey
in
the
summertime
to
figure
out
who's.
H
D
My
pleasure,
I
appreciate
it,
it's
been
super
fun.
That's
right,
I
didn't
didn't
think
I
would
enjoy
it
as
much
as
I
did,
and
it
has
definitely
prompted
me
to
get
involved
with
mccall
and,
and
so
I
will
be
reaching
out
to
some
of
the
people
you've
yeah
introduced
me
to
and
and
probably
getting
involved
up
there
in
whatever
way
I
can
so
great,
but
it's
been
great
working
with
all
you
guys
and
appreciate
everybody.
So
it's
been
awesome.