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A
We're
waiting
for
a
commissioner
to
come
on,
but
we've
got
a
quorum
here,
so
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
go
through
all
the
the
pieces
of
the
meeting
and
then
we'll
make
a
note
when
she
joins
us.
So
I
want
to
thank
everybody
for
coming
here
tonight.
We
appreciate
your
engagement
and
Community
involvement
about
these
projects
and
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
do
a
roll
call
and
I'm
commissioner
blitman
and
I'm
present
and
commissioner
Birch
is
not
present
and
commissioner
bretzlaff
is
maybe
present.
A
I
think
she
just
logged
on
we'll
come
back
and
ask
commissioner
Exton
here.
B
B
A
So
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
let
them
work
on
technical
issues.
Commissioners
Birch
and
commissioner
Coulson
are
absent
tonight,
because
the
Ada
County
Commissioners
are
meeting
with
them
as
part
of
their
being
reappointed
to
Annex
the
next
term,
so
they'll
temporarily
not
be
part
of
the
commission
until
they're
reappointed
or
Not
reappointed
by
the
Ada
County
Commissioners.
A
This
is
the
time
of
the
year
when
we
do
elections
for
the
chairperson
and
for
the
vice
chairperson
of
our
of
our
commission,
and
because
we
don't
have
two
long.
You
know
fairly
long-standing
members
here.
A
We're
gonna
do
an
election
for
interim
for
bases,
so
at
some
point
either
the
February,
the
March
meeting
we're
going
to
have
another
election.
So
now
I'm
going
to
open
the
the
floor
for
nominations
for
the
chairperson
for
this
interim
period.
Madam
chair,
commissioner
Wickstrom.
C
A
There
a
second
second,
it's
been
moved
and
seconded
to
have
Brenda
Blutman,
be
the
chairman
of
the
Ada
County
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission
on
an
interim
basis,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye.
D
C
Do
a
motion
for
vice
chair
sure,
Madam
chair.
We
moved
to
nominate
commissioner
Doug
Exton
as
interim
Vice,
chair
of
the
planning
zoning
commission.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
It's
been
moved
and
seconded
that
commissioner
Exton
B,
the
vice
chair
in
the
discussion.
All
those
in
favor
say.
A
Let
the
minutes
reflect
that
everybody
voted
for
that
so
anyway,
so
we've
got
we're
officially
a
meeting.
We
can
have
a
chairperson
and
we're
set
to
go
from
all
those
formalities.
Commissioner,
retzlaff,
can
you
hear
us
and
participate,
or
are
we
still
working
on
technology.
E
A
G
Yes,
chair,
commissioner,
so
as
you
recall
that
was
approved
at
the
last
hearing
and
you
requested
revised
findings,
so
really
just
a
motion
to
approve
the
revised
findings
and
if
you
don't
agree
with
them,
then
you
know
we'd
we'd
have
to
come
back
with
with
new
ones
based
on
your
direction,
but
the
project
is
technically
approved.
We
just
need
to
make
sure
the
findings
reflect
that
decision.
So.
H
C
Chair
moved
to
accept
the
revised
findings
on
application;
two:
zero:
two:
two:
zero:
two:
four:
four:
nine
z,
c
d:
a
c:
u
m
s,
p!.
A
Commissioner
Exton
seconded
that
motion,
any
discussion
I
think
we
were
all
here
last
time
and
we
all
voted
on
it.
So
all
those
in
favor
of
accepting
the
revised
findings,
please
say
aye
opposed
and
let
the
minutes
out
of
vote
I.
Let
the
minutes
reflect
that
all
four
of
the
Commissioners
voted
to
accept
the
revised
findings.
Our
next
project
number
is
2022-02476
PC,
CPA
spring
Rock,
Development
LLC
and
we've
got
a
staff
recommendation
that
will
be
tabled
to
February
9
2023.
A
can
I
look
to
one
of
the
Commissioners
to
to
help
move
that
project
along.
A
Seconded
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye.
E
A
Aye
I'll
say
aye
any
opposed
and
let
the
minutes
reflect
that
Everybody
voted
that
all
the
committee
for
Commissioners
voted
to
table
that
motion
and
then
I'm
going
to
check
in
to
see.
If
we
can,
commissioner
reslaf
can
can
talk
and
hear.
I
A
Okay,
well
we're
glad
we're
welcome
commissioner
russloff
to
the
meeting,
and
at
least
she
can
hear
and
chat
as
we
go
through
the
next
project.
It
is
202103209
SDA,
18,
land
consultants
and
Mr
letson
is
going
to
provide
us
with
the
update
on
that
project.
Thank
you.
Yes,.
G
G
G
Pictured
here
is
the
zoning
and
surrounding
development
of
the
area.
The
subject
property
is
zoned,
a
rural
urban
transition
which
allows
for
five
acre
lots
and
residential
development
on
individual,
well
and
septic.
There
are
numerous
compatible
developments
or
comparable
developments
in
the
nearby
vicinity,
particularly
to
the
south,
east
and
west.
G
It
also
is
located
within
Eagles
area
of
City
Impact,
which
is
one
of
the
requirements
for
the
rut,
thanks
Luke
rut
District.
So
as
previously
mentioned,
the
project
consists
of
21
residential
lots.
These
will
be
served
by
a
public
roadway
system
which
will
stub
to
the
properties
to
the
north.
All
Lots
within
the
proposed
development
comply
with
the
dimensional
standards
of
the
rut
District,
namely
they
are
all
five
acres
in
size
or
more
and
have
the
minimum
Frontage
required
for
to
be
buildable
for
development.
G
So,
first
of
all,
our
community
and
Regional
planner
Brent
Moore,
stated
that
sorry
I'm
trying
to
move
something
stated
that
Ada
County
is
supportive
of
the
application
due
to
its
compliance
with
the
eagle
comprehensive
plan.
So
that
is
a
play
here
due
to
the
fact
that
it's
in
the
area
of
City
Impact
for
Eagle,
the
aid
accounting
building
official
had
no
objections.
Other
than
you
know,
every
home
will
need
a
building
permit,
moving
forward,
which
is
pretty
standard
practice.
G
The
Ada,
County,
Parks
and
waterways
stated
they
have
no
objections
but
are
in
support
of
a
trail
connection,
slash
easement
through
the
development
along
the
old
Pearl
Lane
alignment,
which
has
historically
been
in
kind
of
an
equestrian
Trail
and
Hiking
Trail
for
folks
in
the
community,
and
so
the
applicant
has
complied
with
that
request
and
is
providing
that
easement
through
the
development
Senator
Central
District
Health
has
requested
a
Land
Development
application
to
be
some
of
the
plans
for
the
preliminary
plant
and
a
feed
per
lot.
Tessels
and
a
full
engineering
report
are
also
required
again.
G
This
is
pretty
standard
condition
from
the
health
district
regarding
individual
septic.
For
developments
like
this,
the
eagle
fire
department
approved
the
project
with
conditions
associated
with
the
design
of
the
proposed
roadways
and
driveways.
Now
that
they're
wide
enough
and
provide
adequate
turnaround
areas
for
fire
apparatus,
because
these
are
going
to
be
public
roadways.
J
G
So
the
Ada
County
Highway
District
stated
that
the
proposed
primary
Pat
plat
is
approved
with
conditions,
but
in
particular,
additional
study.
The
proposed
roadway
to
meet
their
requirements
for
public
roads
will
be
required
prior
to
submittal
of
the
final
plot.
So
if
you
had
a
chance
to
look
at
the
agency
comments
from
achd,
they
are
saying
yes
to
public
roads,
but
they
need
additional
information
and
study
from
the
developer.
Who
has
agreed
to
do
that?
You
know.
The
preliminary
process
in
general
is
more
of
a
conceptual
approval,
It's.
G
The
final
plot
that
really
creates
the
lots
and
allows
it
allows
them
to
be
buildable.
So
it's
that
fine
line
between
what
level
of
information
are
we
getting
at
the
preliminary
plot
versus?
What
are
we
going
to
require
at
the
final
plot?
But
achd
has
said
you
know
at
this
point.
We
can
accept
public
roadways
but
they're
going
to
have
to
meet
these
standards,
and
there
are
several
that
the
engineer
and
developer
will
have
to
meet
and
again
they
can
speak
to
how
they're
going
to
address
that
during
their
testimony.
G
G
We
don't
usually
see
that
level
of
detail,
but
you
know
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
and
a
lot
of
study
that
has
gone
into
the
water
situation
and
our
County
engineer
was
willing
to
accept
individual
well,
but
is
going
to
require
a
lot
more
additional
testing
from
the
developer
and
again,
probably
prefer
that
they
speak
to
the
nuances
of
that.
The
city
of
Eagle
was
supportive
of
the
project,
but
with
the
recommended
condition
that
city
of
Eagle
dimensional
standards
are
used
internal
to
the
development
in
terms
of
building
Heights
setbacks
and
lot
coverage.
G
Idaho
Department
of
Fish
and
Game
expects
the
subject:
property
experiences,
significant
Wildlife
usage
and
has
made
a
number
of
recommendations
regarding
the
design
of
the
development,
particularly
things
like
fencing,
and
how
we
can
keep
migrating
animals
and
herds
safe
in
a
development
like
this,
because
it
is,
you
know,
coming
out
of
the
Foothills.
They
also
have
requests
about
Landscaping.
G
There
are
certain
types
of
landscaping:
they
can
be
pretty
detrimental
to
wild
animals
that
they
would
like
to
see
restricted,
I
think
via
the
ccnrs,
and
then
they
also
have
some
requests
that
pets
and
livestock
by
Future
residents
be
kind
of
maintained
and
and
regulated
in
a
way
that
again
won't
negatively
impact
the
migrating
wild
animals
in
the
area
and
then
finally,
the
capital
of
the
Irrigation
District
requested.
The
preliminary
plot
be
updated
to
show
the
location
of
all
irrigation
facilities
and
respective
easements
of
sufficient
size
to
allow
for
their
ongoing
operation
maintenance.
G
The
applicant
actually
did
provide
a
revise,
provide
a
revised
preliminary
plot,
which
is
a
part
of
your
packet
that
does
show
those
easements
in
place
so
that
that
request
has
been
satisfied
and
there
is
confirmation
from
them.
Capital
view
Irrigation
District
to
that
point
in
terms
of
public
comments,
we
did
receive
four
in
general.
These
were
requests
for
an
easement
for
the
continued
Trail
on
equestrian
access
to
development.
G
That's
been
provided
by
the
developer
or
proposed
to
be
provided
an
easement
for
existing
irrigation
facilities,
and
the
applicant
can
speak
to
this
in
Greater
detail,
but
there's
some
actual
private
irrigation
facilities
that
aren't
necessarily
a
part
of
the
district,
and
they
would
like
an
easement
for
those
and
I
think
the
applicant
is
willing
to
comply
with
providing
that
easement
as
well,
and
then
there
were
concerns
raised
about
the
proposed
use
of
little
lane,
which
is
a
private
road
to
the
kind
of
Eastern
section.
G
Let's
see,
where's
a
good
place,
if
you
can
see
my
pointer
here,
the
Southeastern
corner
here
connects
to
Little
Lane,
which
is
a
private
road.
Originally,
the
developer
had
proposed
to
make
use
of
that
for
like
a
fire
access,
but
after
a
lot
of
discussion
with
the
residents
as
well
as
the
fire
department,
has
actually
opted
to
not
take
any
access
there.
G
There
will
be
that
equestrian
easement
that
runs
down
little
lane,
but
not
used
for
a
fire
access
at
this
point
and
then
finally,
General
concerns
about
the
impacts
of
traffic
on
roadways,
north
of
Beacon
Light
Road,
and
that
would
be
you
know.
Trinity
court
and
some
of
the
other
roadways
pictured
here.
Beacon
Light,
which
is
not
on
the
map,
is
roughly
gosh.
I,
don't
know
a
quarter
to
a
half
mile
south
of
the
the
project.
So
there
are
some
smaller
local
roadways
through
there
that
people
are
concerned
with.
G
However,
achd
has
reviewed
the
project
and
has
found
that
the
vehicle
traffic
Associated
won't
negatively
impact
per
their
standards.
Those
local
roadways.
So,
in
conclusion,
staff
is
recommending
approval.
Oh
actually,
sorry,
there's
a
correction
slide.
I,
don't
normally
like
to
have
this
in
my
presentation,
but
reviewing
with
the
applicant
I
noticed
a
typo
the
other
day
for
achd
report,
so
we
actually
got
achg's
final
report.
December
7th,
2022
I
think
the
exhibit
list
said.
2021.
G
achg's
response
was
one
of
the
major
things
we
were
waiting
on
to
get
this
in
front
of
you,
and
so
we
got
that
on
the
20.
In
December
7th
2022
and
then
there
was
also
some
missed
dates
on
the
signposting
certification
and
legal
notice.
So
staff
is
just
correcting
those
on
the
record
to
March,
2nd
2022
and
February
22nd
2022
respectively.
So
again
just
wanted
to
capture
that
change
on
the
record
and
then
finally,
staff
is
recommending
approval
with
the
conditions
attached
to
the
project
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
A
Thank
you.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
when
we've
heard
this
project
we'll
either
do
a
motion
to
approve
or
deny,
but
those
does
that
does
those
date.
Changes
need
to
be
part
of
our
motion.
You.
G
H
G
Just
was
important,
I
think
for
posterity
to
let
you
know
when
those
things
actually
occurred.
It
particularly
the
acht
that
you
know
again.
That
was
probably
the
number
one
reason
I
wasn't
bringing
this
to
you.
For
the
last
years,
we
were
waiting
to
figure
out
those
public
roadways,
so
I'll
just
update
that
in
the
board
report.
I,
don't
think
it
needs
to
be
on
the
record.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
and
I
was
wondering
about
that.
When
I
went
through
the
package
I'm
like
gosh,
that's
really
late.
So
what
questions
do
the
Commissioners
have
Mr
Wickstrom.
C
Thank
you
Meg.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
Mr
ludson.
So
it
sounds
like
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
were
coming
up.
They
we
don't
really
need
to
make
a
condition
here
in
our
in
our
approval,
just
with,
with
the
trail
connection
and
all
of
the
the
private
Wells,
all
the
easements,
for
that.
That
seems
to
all
have
been
taken
care
of
and
agreed
upon.
So
it's
not
something
we
really
need
to
address
as
a
condition.
Yeah.
G
Chairman
commissioner,
yes,
I've
worked
those
into
conditions
of
approval
or
the
applicant
has
provided
revised
materials
which
are
part
of
the
packet
that
reflect
that
those
changes
have
been
made.
I
think
there
might
be
some
question
about
the
easement
for
private
irrigation
facilities
that
the
applicant
applicant
can
address,
and
we
could
add
that
as
a
condition,
if
we
wanted
to
to
make
sure
that
happens,
but
I
think
they've
been
in
conversations
with
those
Property
Owners
to
to
ensure
that
happens.
But
that
could
be
something
you
add
if
you,
if
you'd
prefer.
Okay
in.
C
B
That's
not
worked
into
the
conditions
of
approval
at
all
correct.
That's
just
a
recommendation
from
Idaho
permanent
fishing
game
to
adhere
to
those
standards.
G
There's
an
agency,
an
agency
response,
which
is
a
part
of
the
packet
and
I
I,
may
go
look
at
that
packet.
One
more
time
to
see
if
I
did
include
a
specific
condition.
G
We
certainly
could
add
that,
as
a
condition
that
you
know
develop
the
project
in
that
Accord
with
Idaho
efficient
games
letter
dated
the
state,
you
know
it
was
just
for
them.
It
was
just
general
guidance,
I
mean
which
is
usually
what
we
get
from
Idaho,
Fish
and
Game,
but
yeah
we
certainly
could
add
a
condition.
That's
more
specific
to
say
you
know,
work
with
Idaho
Vision
game
specifically
on
these
aspects
of
the
project,
fencing
Landscaping
livestock
and
pets
and
put
it
on
the
applicant
to
go.
Get
that
done.
Thank
you.
A
I've
got
a
follow-up
question.
This
the
same
question
about
the
capital
view
Irrigation
District,
is
that
in
in
the
conditions,
or
is
that
something
that
is
just
being
discussed?
Yeah.
G
A
Thank
you
very
much,
I
think.
Do
we
have
any
more
questions,
I
think
we're
going
to
be
ready
for
the
applicant
and
the
way
this
works
is
that
the
applicant
comes
up
and
the
applicant
has
10
minutes
to
to
tell
us
they're
part
of
the
project.
A
K
Foreign
chair
members
of
the
commission
for
the
record,
my
name
is
Steve
Arnold
I'm,
with
18
land,
Consultants,
1785,
whisper,
Cove,
Boise
83709,
and
it's
nice
to
finally
get
here
in
front
of
you
guys.
It's
been
a
long
haul
as
Mr
lets
and
said.
The
biggest
delay
that
we
had
was
with
achd
and
it
we
it
finally
turned
out
that
we
were.
We
came
to
an
agreement
with
them
that
all
of
the
work
that
they
wanted
us
to
do
was
really
a
final
platin
process
and
done
at
the
design
stage.
K
You
move
down
I'll
just
kind
of
give
a
a
summary
of
the
of
the
site.
As
Mr
Latson
said,
it's
21
Lots
we're
complying
with
the
rut,
we're
not
asking
for
a
rezone.
So
it's
the
existing
Zone
there,
public
roadways
I
have
on
there
28
feet,
I
kind
of
like
them
wider,
but
achd
saying
that
I
need
to
be
24,
so
we'll
comply
with
achd
as
discussed.
We
are
working
with
the
neighbors
that
are
at
the
Southeast
corner
of
the
site.
K
We
did
meet
with
the
owners
that
are
at
the
southeast
corner
and
the
irrigation
I
I,
don't
actually
know
we
didn't
meet
with
the
Irrigation
District,
because
I
believe
they're
private
on
those
and
we're
basically
relocating
a
gravity
line
and
then
a
weir
and
then
providing
them
a
gravel
access
road
to
that
Weir.
So
they
they
can
maintain
it.
K
As
stated
earlier,
our
original
hearing
was
on
March
and
it
it's
taken
between
March.
Until
now,
oh
well
December
7th
to
get
a
report.
K
K
To
give
you
any
idea
of
all
these
studies.
I've
never
done
so.
Many
studies
for
a
21
lot
subdivision
but
I
understand
why
it's
there
it's
in
the
Foothills
there's
certain
things
and
restrictions
that
the
County's
looking
for
and
we're
complying
with
those.
So
first
one
was
the
fire
protection
study.
I
did
a
Geotech
report,
I
think
two
or
three
times
for
the
highway
district,
updating
it
again
and
then
hydrology
report
that
we
updated
several
times
for
achd.
K
K
So
we've
studied
the
heck
out
of
this
one.
It
it's
been
well
researched
if
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
K
So
here's
the
just
a
highlight
one
page
of
the
the
the
summary
that
HDR
did
for
us
and
it
basically
says
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
read
that
on
your
screens,
but
it
doesn't
there's
no
zero
to
minimal
impact
to
existing
Wells
and
I
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
what
additional
studies
we
do.
I'm,
not
the
hydrologist
but
we'll
have
HDR,
add
additional
information
working
with
the
County
engineer
next
one.
If
you
can
now
there's
the
plat.
K
K
Next
one
is
the
natural
features
map
that
does
show
you
that
we've
got
some
some
grades
that
we're
working
with
we
in
the
design
we've
in
our
grading
plan,
we've
graded
it
out
to
minimize
the
cuts
and
the
scarring
on
the
existing
and
then
next
one
that
just
shows
you
and
I.
Think
Leon's
map
was
probably
better
it
we're
surrounded
by
rut
and
existing
development.
So
I
think
we're
submitting
something,
that's
fairly
consistent
with
what
has
been
done.
K
I
it.
It
came
up
that
you
had
questions
about
how
we're
going
to
meet
certain
conditions
and
I'll.
Think
I'll.
If
you
don't
mind,
I'll
use
that
during
my
the
Q,
a
with
us,
I'm,
not
sure
which
ones
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we're
going
to
do
to
to
comply
with
the
conditions
that
have
come
up.
You
know
one
would
be
the
the
ID,
no,
the
wildlife
guy
we're
you
know.
K
One
way
you
can
do
that
is
we'll
we'll
put
in
our
ccnr's
the
restrictions
on
fencing
on,
because
I
talked
to
him
for
quite
a
bit
on
the
fencing
and
the
livestock
that
goes
in.
K
So
one
condition
that
we'd
be
happy
to
accept
is,
you
know,
get
approval
for
the
the
wildlife
guys
before
recording
the
plot
and
a
lot
of
the
other
stuff
we'll
address
in
the
ccnrs
too,
so
we'll
meet
the
fire
concerns
by
requiring
that
all
buildings
built
in
there
will
have
a
fire
suppression
system
in
turn
internal
to
the
building,
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
other
concerns
were,
but
I'll
save
that
for
q,
a
I
guess
in
the
other
slides
are
just
toppo.
K
That
kind
of
gives
you
an
idea
of
the
Topo.
That's
looking
from
the
south
to
East
per
excuse
me
north
to
south
west,
the
next
one,
that's
little
Lane
right
down
the
center
there
and
with
that
I
will
next
slide
and
sum
up.
My
presentation
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
K
Madam
chairman
commissioner
Exton
yeah,
we
did
have
a
neighborhood
meeting.
We
did
it
virtual
that
was
back
in
the
covet
era
and
there
wasn't
a
lot
of
concern.
The
biggest
concern
was
the
trail
for
the
horses.
You
know
they've
been
using
it,
for
you
know
70
80
years
or
longer,
and
they
just
didn't
want
it
blocked
off.
So
we've
agreed
we'll
we'll
put
a
parallel
Trail
along
the
meeting
with
the
Neighbors
at
the
southeast
Corner
about
the
irrigation
facilities.
K
B
K
I
didn't
see
that
in
there
but
yeah
we'll
comply
with
it.
Madam
chair
commissioner
X
and
I
I
usually
start
out
with
my
presentation.
Yeah
we've
read
the
findings,
facts
all
the
site,
all
the
conditions
of
approval
and
we
will
comply
with
everything.
Awesome.
C
You
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Most
of
the
lots
are
going
to
be
on
a
on
a
hillside
or
they're
going
to
be
cut.
Are
there
any
restrictions
or
the
Landscaping
is
not
going
to
be
very
extensive
on
each
of
these
Lots
I
guess
is
my
point:
is
that
is
there
something
in
the
ccnr?
Is
that
limits
the
amount
of
landscaping
it
was
just?
There
was
some
concerns
about
water
usage
up
there.
K
Yeah
Madam
chairman
commissioner
workstrom.
We
will
have
something
in
our
season,
ours
that
talks
exactly
to
the
planting
material
and
the
the
woofie
also
requires
us
to
submit
material,
that's
low
water
use
and
and
fire
resistant,
so
that
will
be
addressed
in
our
ccnr's.
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
appreciate
how
long
this
has
taken
so
help
me
out
with
identifying
and
and
we
trust
but
verify
right.
So
where
have
we
said
that
we're
gonna,
take
care
of
the
Irrigation
District?
Is
that
on
the
plat
itself,
or
is
that
in
the
conditions,
the
the
capital
view
Irrigation
District.
K
Yes,
Madam
chair,
we
modified
the
map
to
reflect
what
they
were
looking
for.
Okay,.
A
So
that's
already
been
Incorporated
in
the
map.
Okay
and
then
the
other
people
that
that
have
the
private
water
was
that
also
modified
on
the
map
or
or
how
is
that?
Yes,.
K
It
has
been
Madam
chair.
Yes,
we
we
addressed
all
the
the
requests
from
The
Neighbors
on
that
you'll
see
kind
of
like
a
a
private
access
road
on
our
South
West
Southeast
Corner,
gosh
directions.
H
A
A
Yeah
and
because
of
the
time
difference
that
the
questions
came
in
before
they
had
been
resolved.
If
that
makes
sense,
and
so.
K
So,
just
to
the
east
at
the
lower
right,
Southeast
corner,
it's
it's
that
little
Loop
in
there
right
to
the
east
of
our
property.
There's
a
big
storage
pond
and
I
I
believe
that's
where
Capital
Water
Irrigation
District
they,
where
they
have
their
facilities,
but
I'm,
not
100
positive.
On
that.
A
A
Okay,
that
answers
my
questions.
I
think
you
can
go
ahead
and
sit
down
and
we'll
see
if
there's
anybody
else
that
wants
to
talk
and
then
we'll
go
forward.
Is
there
anybody
else
in
the
room
that
would
like
to
make
comments
on
this
project?
A
A
K
A
Any
questions.
Okay,
so
Now's
the
Time
when
I
looked
at
one
of
the
Commissioners
with
a
motion
to
either
approve
the
project,
deny
the
project
or
table
the
project.
C
C
We
were
based
on
the
finds
the
fact
and
conclusions
of
all
contained
your
end
and
the
testimony
from
the
public
for
the
public
hearing.
The
commission
recommend
approval
project
number
2021,
03209
s,
dash
HD
to
the
board,
subject
to
conditions
of
approval
attached,
as
exhibit
a
and
the
preliminary
plot
stamped
on
February
28
2002.
A
Commissioner
Scott
go
ahead,
commissioner
Wickstrom
and
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
it.
C
Well,
as
mentioned
it
was,
this
development
is
very
similar
to
the
things
that
are
up
there,
with
the
exception
of
being
on
a
hillside,
but
there's
a
lot
of
rut
properties
around
there,
it's
similar,
similar
to
what's
already
there.
The
applicant
has
done
a
lot
to
address
a
lot.
Every
concern,
I've
written
down
here,
he's
already
addressed
and
has
caught
before
it
came
to
us.
So
there's
other
concerns
about
the
trail.
C
Access,
the
irrigation
easements,
the
use
of
the
private
road
for
emergency
access
and
Wildlife
protection
have
all
been
addressed
and
apparently
to
the
satisfaction
of
the
neighbors,
because
they're
they're,
they
seem
to
be
satisfied.
They're
not
here,
protesting
that
so
I
think
that
he's
done
his
part
to
to
make
this
work
and
make
good
with
the
neighbors.
B
I
agree
with
everything
that
commissioner
Wickstrom
said:
I
did
have
like
a
quick
technical
question.
Should
it
be
February,
28,
2022
or
2002.?
Yes,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
like
if
it
was
the
wrong
day,
it
doesn't
mess
up
the
minutes
or
record
or.
G
Yeah,
thank
you
that
will
be
updated,
we'll
yeah,
sorry,
there's
been
lots
of
dates
in
this.
One
I
think
we've
we've
crossed
three
years
over
the
course
of
the.
B
Beyond
that,
I
agree
completely
with
everything
commissioner
wigstrom
said.
A
And
we'll
trust
the
staff
to
update
all
the
right
dates,
any
other
comments.
Anybody
wants
to
make.
B
A
I'll
say:
aye
all
those
opposed,
say:
I
looked
motion
minutes
reflect
that
four
Commissioners
voted
I'm.
Sorry,
commissioner
Retzloff.
My
your
vote
is
for
this
motion.
So
five
Commissioners
voted
for
this
project
and
none
voted
against
it.
So
all
those
we'll
move
to
the
next
project.
A
So
the
next
project
is
two
zero.
Two
two
zero
two
six
zero
nine
Leon,
Huber
and
Mr
Lindstrom
is
going
to
present
the
project.
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Yes,
application
202202-609-s.
L
It's
Huber
Acres
subdivision
and
the
Hubers
are
the
applicant.
I
will
start
here.
This
is
a
vicinity
map
a
general
location,
we're
at
the
Black
Cat
and
LaMont
Road
intersection,
so
kind
of
Southwest
Meridian
area
just
outside
Meridian.
L
So
this
is
a
preliminary
plaque
for
a
five
watt
subdivision
properties
located
as
I
said
at
Lamont
and
black
cat
Road
contains
28.06
acres
and
the
rural
urban
transition
or
rut
zoning
districts.
L
The
applicant
is
requesting
the
property
to
be
split
into
those
five
buildable
residential
lots.
All
Lots
will
be
a
minimum
of
five
acres
to
meet
the
rut.
District
lot
size
minimum
lots
of
one
two
and
three
which
are,
as
you
can
see,
my
cursor
one,
two
and
three
here,
we'll
all
take
access
off
a
South
black
cat,
Road
and
then
Lots
four
and
five
here
on
the
south,
we'll
take
access
from
Lamont
an
existing
single
family
dwelling
here
in
lot,
two
in
agricultural
structures
will
remain
or
they're
going
to
be
contained
within
lot
too.
L
This
is
kind
of
an
aerial
that
I
pulled
from
Google.
Maps
just
gives
you
a
kind
of
understanding
of
The
Contours
of
the
site.
There
is
some
Contour
there
in
the
Southeast
or
I'm
sorry,
the
Northeast
portion
of
the
site,
some
of
the
gravel
pit
that
was
there
Corey
at
one
point.
L
Hopefully,
the
applicant
can
address
that,
but
really
all
the
building
pads
and
all
the
development
will
happen
closer
to
the
roadway
if
there
was
to
be
future
development
in
those
areas
where
there's
Contours
and
degrading
than
a
future
Hillside
development
application
may
take
places.
There's
some
some
significant
slope
there
see
here.
This
is
the
future
land
use
map
for
the
city
of
Meridian.
This
property
is
within
meridian's
impact
area,
and
so
that's
why
we
use
the
Meridian
comp
plan
and
future
land
use
map.
L
It
does
show
on
here
that
it's
within
the
medium
density,
residential
area,
which
is
primarily
intended
for
single-family
homes
at
densities
of
three
to
eight
dwelling
units
per
acre.
These
Lots
will
be
five
acre,
lots
and
larger,
and
so
it
is
compatible
with
rut
Zone,
as
well
as
this
comp
plan
here
and
then
at
the
time
the
staff
report
was
written.
We
did
not
receive
any
agency
comments
in
opposition.
L
The
highway
district
did
have
an
initial
rough
draft
staff
report
that
the
applicant
actually
appealed
to
the
highway
district
and-
and
he
can
speak
to
that,
they're
working
through
that
process
now.
So
at
this
time
we
don't
have
a
formal,
achd
Report,
with
we're
still
waiting
on
that,
but
in
your
conditions,
you'll
see
that
there's
a
condition
that
states
the
applicant
shall
comply
with
all
achd
standard
and
site-specific
conditions
of
approval
and
I
will
stand
for
any
questions.
L
A
You
very
much
and
thank
you
very
much
for
answering
my
one
question.
So
what
questions
do
the
Commissioners
have.
D
Just
a
question
on
the
the
land
use
for
meridian's
comp
plan,
their
comp
plan
says
it's
intended
for
single-family
homes
density
three
to
eight
dwellings
per
acre.
Is
this
going
to
be
one
dwelling
per
acre?
L
L
Is
much
lower
density
than
what
they
like
to
see,
but
you
know,
and
until
city
services
are
available
to
the
area.
This
is
really
the
highest
density
that
the
applicant
can
go,
and
so
the
city
they
didn't,
provide
any
comments
on
this,
but
once
services
are
available
then
yes,
the
city
would
like
to
see
those.
You
know
three
to
eight
dwelling
units
per
acre,
which
is
significantly
higher
density
than
what's
there
now.
Okay,.
D
L
M
The
labor
and
that's
4700,
West
Lamont,
Road,
Meridian
Idaho
and
the
whole
purpose
of
this
is
to
dissolve
a
trust
that
was
made
by
my
parents,
and
it's
left
there's
three
of
us
boys
and
we're
all
in
our
approaching
I'm
over
90
now
in
the
90th
year
and
others
are
comparably
in
their
80s
and
the
way
the
trust
was
set
up
was
to
be
dissolved,
would
be
all
illegal
subdivisions.
Now
there
were
six
parcels
and
so
to
get
it,
so
something
can
be
done
with
it.
M
M
M
What
I
would
say
civil
about
it
now
and
we've
worked
out,
I
think
all
of
our
disagreements
and
they've
so
we're
just
waiting
for
their
report
and
I.
Think
verbally
we
have,
they
said
they
would
could
do
everything
that
we
had
objected
to
before
and
corrected
that.
So
we'll
see
what
their
final
report
says,
but
right
now
we're
very
pleased
and
that
we're
getting
closer
to
getting
it
resolved.
So,
if
there's
any
questions,
thank.
C
I
think
it's
obvious:
no
I
don't
have
any.
M
What's
going
to
happen
there,
it's
all
been
closed.
Basically,
except
it
is
used
as
a
staging
area.
There's
no
gravel
being
removed
from
it
anymore
and
it
has
been
part
of
it
has
been
refilled.
It
was
the
Reclamation
plan,
that's
about
the
north.
Two
and
a
half
acres
has
been
filled
back
up,
but
at
all
all
the
engineering
report
that
was
done
said
every
place
on
the
property
could
be
built
on
and
people
wanted
to
build
down
there,
but
but
that's
about
the
status
of
it.
M
We
had
planned
originally
to
have
topsoil,
put
back
on
the
gravel
area
where
the
gravel
was
removed,
and
then
we
would
go
back
to
farming
it
again,
but
right
now
it's
not
we're
we're
through
with
the
hobby
of
farming.
I
think
we
can
run
out
of
money
to
do
that.
So
anyway,
that's
about
about
where
it
stands.
On
the.
A
The
other
question
I
have
is:
will
you
have
ccnr's
for
this
subdivision?
No.
A
A
And
so
we're
back
to
staff
for
questions.
Commissioner
reslaf
I
keep
forgetting
to
ask
you:
do
you
have
any
questions
for
the
staff?
No
ma'am?
Okay,
any
other
questions.
A
The
only
question
I
have
for
the
staff
is:
we've
had
a
lot
of
contentious
hearings
about
people
that
live
on
five
acre
lots
when
one
of
their
neighbors
puts
a
commercial
business
in
and
so
and
a
lot
of
times
people
say:
well,
it
wasn't
in
the
ccnrs
and-
and
it
wasn't
and
so
is
there
anything
we
can
do
to
help
prevent
things
like
that
from
coming
up,
or
did
they
just
happen?
The
way
they
happen,
because
that's
what
happens?
Yeah.
L
Madam
chair,
so
you
know
this
is
in
the
rural
urban
transition
District.
So
as
you're
aware
there's
a
multitude
of
different
uses
that
are
allowed
within
this
area,
everything
from
contractors
yards
to
storage
facilities
with
each
of
those
projects
yeah
they
would
have
to
make
a
formal
application
to
Ada
County.
So
if
there
was
nothing
specific
in
the
ccnrs
OR,
there
were
no
ccnrs,
then
that
would
not
restrict
those
those
uses.
I
would
say
even
too
if
there
were
ccnrs
as
Ada
County,
we
don't
observe
those.
L
A
C
C
A
My
concern
is,
as
we
get
a
lot
of
things
that
come
up
as
Commissioners,
and
so,
if
there's
things
that
we
should
be
doing
ahead
of
time
to
make
things
better,
we
should
do
it.
But
what
I'm
being
told
is
that's
not
the
way
it
works,
which
is
fine.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
when
those
things
come
up,
we
understand
that
that's
just
the
way
it
works.
A
Yes,
yeah
so,
okay,
if
the
applicant
would
like
to
make
any
more
comments,
they're
welcome
to
or
we
can
see
if
we
have
any
more
questions
for
the
Commissioners
for
the
applicant
I'm,
seeing
head
shaking
so
I'm,
not
seeing
any
more
questions.
Commissioner
retzlaff,
do
you
have
any
questions
for
the
applicant?
A
No
Madam
chairman,
okay,
we're
good
I'll,
look
to
the
Commissioners
for
a
motion
to
approve
the
application,
deny
it
or
table
it.
B
A
Scott
seconded
the
motion
go
ahead,
commissioner,
Exton
yeah.
B
I
mean
to
me
this
seems
pretty
pretty
standard
towards
a
lot
of
the
subdivisions
that
we
do
see.
You
know
nothing
too
out
of
the
box
in
terms
of
non-compliancy
or
anything
like
that.
All
the
Lots
will
still
qualify
for
you
know
the
zonings
that
they'll
be
in
and
such
like
that
I
do
understand.
B
A
Thank
you
any
other
comments.
C
I'm
sure
it
just
it
is
pretty
straightforward:
there's
you
see
the
Gravel
Pit
there
and
it
kind
of
makes
you
wonder.
Is
there
something
else
going
up?
That's
something
for
the
applicant
to
have
to
deal
with
and
those
who
purchase
those
lots.
So
that's
as
far
as
the
plaque
goes,
it's
acceptable
with
a
lot
of
sizes
so
and
the
access
to
them
has
been
settled
so
I
agree
with
approving
this
application.
A
And
the
comment
I
would
make,
is
I
appreciate
the
applicant's
efforts
to
to
get
get
this
figured
out
and
make
this
illegal
subdivision.
So
I
appreciate
that
so
any
other
comments
or
questions
before
we
vote
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye.
A
A
A
A
I
skip
one:
oh
dear
I
thought
we
were.
It
was
already
so
it's
two
zero
two
two
zero
two
709
cumsp
Rodney
Evans
and
partners,
and
I
apologize
and
Mr
Lindstrom.
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair
yeah,
application
2022-02709-cu
MSP.
The
applicant
is
Rodney
Evans
and
partners
vicinity
map
here
we're
off
of
Stuart
Road,
which
is
southwest
of
city
of
Boise
Columbia
Cloverdale,
Road
area.
L
This
is
a
conditional
use
and
master
site
plan
application
to
operate
a
contractor's
yard
for
a
landscaping
business.
The
property
is
located
at
8200,
South
Stewart
Road
contains
five
acres
and
the
rut.
Zoning
District,
so
two
rivers,
tree
service
and
hardscapes,
applied
for
the
contractor's
yard.
They'll
be
utilizing
roughly
the
Eastern
third
of
the
property
for
the
contractor's
yard.
L
The
site
will
be
comprised
of
parking
area
for
employee
parking
five
spaces,
and
then
you
have
commercial
vehicles
and
Equipment
area
that
will
be
stored
and
then,
as
well
as
storage
areas
for
landscaping
materials,
the
applicant
is
going
to
install
a
wooden
privacy
fence
on
this
east
and
south
side
to
act.
As
you
know,
privacy
and
screening
for
The
Neighbors.
No
structures
at
this
time
are
proposed
for
the
use
of
the
contractor's
yard.
It'll
just
be
you
know
the
parking
area
and
and
staging
of
equipment.
L
There
is
a
structure
you'll
see
here.
If
you
see
my
cursor
I
believe
it's
labeled
number
three,
that
is
an
existing
structure
that
we
found
is
in
the
setback.
So
an
option
is
for
the
applicant
to
either
demolish
that
structure
or
move
it
somewhere
else
in
the
site
or
move
forward
with
the
variance
application
to
permit
it
in
the
setback.
So
as
that
is
a
condition
of
approval,
you'll
see
I,
believe
we
had
a
pre-op
today
with
the
property.
H
L
And
they
might
move
forward
with
a
variance.
There
are,
let's
see
here,
the
Western
third
or
half
of
the
property
is
also
being
utilized
for
a
substation.
That's
for
there's
an
existing
easement
that
goes
through
the
properties,
the
the
pipeline
or
the
Williams
pipeline
I
believe
it's
called
Northwest,
Pipeline
and
so
at
a
previous
hearing.
I
believe
it
was
in
November.
You
guys
saw
this
application
and
approved
it,
and
so
that's
just
letting
you
know
that
that
use
is
going
forward
and
they're.
L
Currently
in
the
midst
of
doing
the
site,
improvements
for
that
project,
it
is
a
condition
and
an
out.
It
has
been
achieved
already
actually
as
of
this
week
or
last
week,
that
there
is
an
agreement
for
the
encroachment
between
the
pipeline
company
and
the
property
owner.
So
they've
already
achieved
that
condition.
L
The
natural
features
analysis
indicated
that
the
use
will
not
be
detrimental
to
natural
features
on
the
site
and
the
landscaping
and
parking
plans
both
meet
Ada
County
code
requirements.
The
property
is
located
within
meridian's
impact
area,
this
within
a
different
part
of
meridian's
impact
area
than
your
last
application.
This
is
more
of
a
low
density
residential
area,
and
so
it's
primarily
intended
for
single-family
homes,
densities
of
three
dwelling
units
or
less
per
acre.
L
The
property
contains
an
existing
single-family
home
that
will
remain
on
the
site
and
then
they'll
be
utilizing
that
contractor's
yard
and
and
it
will
be
a
five-year
approval
for
the
conditional
use.
So
our
community
and
Regional
long-range
planner
felt
that
this
was
compatible
with
the
land
use
map
for
the
city
of
Meridian.
L
At
the
time
the
staff
report
was
written,
we
did
not
receive
any
comments
from
agencies
in
opposition.
I
did
receive
a
couple
comments
from
some
of
the
neighboring
Property
Owners.
They
had
just
general
questions
and
concerns
with
the
use
of
the
property
being
utilized
for
multiple
uses
and
businesses.
L
B
Mr
Lindstrom
some
of
the
comments
from
the
public
kind
of
mentioned:
the
fact
that
the
site
isn't
five
acres.
It
doesn't
mean
the
requirement
stuff
like
that.
Could
you
just
kind
of
like
touch
on
that
and
address
that
with
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
the
actual
size,
yeah.
L
Madam
chair,
commissioner
xson,
absolutely
so
I
believe
some
of
the
folks
were
confused
with
the
five
acre
requirement,
so
they
were
it's
very
clear
that
the
actual
contractor's
yard
use
itself
is
significantly
less
than
five
acres,
but
the
way
that
the
code
reads
it,
the
property
as
a
whole,
has
to
be
five
acres.
They
don't
have
to
use
all
five
acres
for
the
site
for
one
specific
use,
so
I
think
that
covers
it.
I
believe
they
also
had
concerns
with
multiple
uses
on
one
site.
You
know
each
each
property
can
submit.
L
C
's
from
the
on
the
I
was
looking
through
the
previous
application.
It
looks
like
there
was
a
a
contract
of
sale
there.
One
and
a
half
acres
were
sold
to
the
gas
company,
which
leaves
at
least
three
and
a
half
acres,
essentially
for
what's
going
on
here
and
I
realize
it
still
meets
the
zoning
because
it
is
it's,
it's
not
rut.
It's
it's
going
by
the
Meridian
comprehensive
plan
for
the
zoning,
which
is.
Is
that
something
that
should
be
corrected
in
the
in
the
findings
so.
L
Madam
chair,
commissioner
Wickstrom:
we
we
have
not
seen
a
formal
application
for
any
kind
of
subdivision
of
the
property,
I
believe
as
part
of
the
the
substation
with
the
the
gas
pipeline.
It
was
an
agreement
to
you,
know,
sell
a
portion
of
it,
but
not
formally
I
believe
the
applicant
will,
or
the
property
owner
will
still
be
paying
taxes
on
the
property
as
a
whole.
That's
my
understanding!
If,
if
they
are
splitting
the
property
formally
splitting
it,
then
we
would
require
a
subdivision
of
the
property.
C
Okay,
because
there
was
that
yeah,
there
was
a
a
contract
of
sale
in
the
previous
application.
Okay.
G
That
would
be
in
a
legal
subdivision
and
we
wouldn't
allow
that
to
occur,
and
they
would
to
Connor's
Point
need
to
come
back
before
this
hearing
body
and
the
board
to
formally
subdivide
which
would
be
complicated,
giving
the
zoning
district
there
and
it
doesn't
allow
for
anything
less
than
five
acres.
So
I
don't
know
what
they
bought,
but
it
certainly
isn't
a
piece
of
land
that
we're
recognizing
as
individual
Parcels.
L
Yep
Madam
chair,
that's
correct.
In
the
northeast
corner
of
the
property,
there
is
an
existing
residence
that
will
remain
the
structures
there
are
going
to
remain
well.
Minus
the
one
on
the
south
potentially
might
get
a
variance,
but
those
will
remain
as
part
of
the
residential
use.
That's
taking
place
and
okay
yeah,
so
I
believe
the
applicant
is
here,
and
maybe
they
can
address
some
of
your
questions
too.
A
F
Madam
chair
members
of
the
commission,
Ben
Semple,
with
Rodney
Evans
and
partners,
1450
West,
Bannock,
Street,
Boise,
Idaho
I'm,
representing
the
owners.
They
also
are
the
residents
of
the
the
property
and
the
owners
of
the
business
here.
I
want
to
clarify
something
that
the
contractor's
yard
is
to
permit
this
for
their
employees
to
park
on
it
during
the
day
to
take
their
work,
trucks
and
Equipment
out,
there's
no
staging
of
landscape
materials
or
anything
like
that.
F
None
of
the
buildings
are
used
for
the
Contracting
side
of
things,
that's
all
associated
with
the
single
family
residents.
As
Mr
Lindstrom
stated,
we
did
receive
the
encroachment
agreement
from
the
pipeline
company
regarding
that
encroachment
of
the
parking
area.
It's
effectively
that
southern
portion
of
that
Eastern.
Third
of
the
lot
that's
cross
hatched
there.
This
is
the
older
plan.
We've
revised
that
to
pull
that
parking
area
to
be
a
minimum
of
25
feet
away
from
that
Southern
Property
boundary
to
comply
with
code
as
well.
F
That's
a
few
thousand
square
feet
of
this
property
to
park
on
an
existing
gravel
area.
That
already
has
some.
You
know
parking.
That's
that's
done
on
it.
One
of
the
other
conditions
was
to
submit
and
receive
approval
of
an
accessory
use
from
Central
District
Health.
We
just
received
that
approval
today.
I
have
sent
it
over
to
Mr
Lindstrom
as
well
for
inclusion
in
the
file
with
the
or
with
the
record,
and
they
approved
it.
The
employees
don't
use
the
home
or
any
of
the
structures
for
restrooms
or
anything
like
that.
F
It's
literally
a
place
for
them
to
show
up
in
the
morning
to
get
their
trucks
and
go
out
to
the
job
sites
regarding
the
just
a
touch
on
it,
real
quick
because
it
came
up
the
pipeline
project
adjacent
here.
What
they
purchased
was
an
easement
and
the
rights
to
use
that
piece
of
property
on
here.
For
that
substation
they
didn't
purchase
the
property
itself,
it's
not
being
subdivided
now
or
in
the
future.
I
guess
if
it
went
into
Meridian
and
the
the
codes
changed
to
allow
it
to
be
subdivided
into
smaller
Parcels.
F
That
would
be
addressed
at
that
time
and
also
real
quick
that
the
owner
did
have
a
pre-app
today
to
pursue
the
variants
for
that
existing
structure
to
remain
I.
Believe
it's
about
eight
feet
into
that
setback.
They've
been
working
with
the
property
owner
to
the
South
to
talk
with
them
about
you
know
their
feelings
of
that
structure.
F
Remaining
that's
been
there
at
least
since
the
home
has
been
built,
if
not
before,
so
that
we,
whether
that
variance,
is
approved
or
denied,
and
they
have
to
move
the
structure
or
demolish
a
portion
of
it
or
the
whole
thing
they
do
intend
to
comply
with
that
condition
of
approval,
as
well
as
we
are
in
agreement
with
all
of
the
other
conditions
of
approval
and
the
terms
contained
within
that
staff
report.
If
you
have
any
questions,
I'm
happy
to
answer
them.
N
Yes,
Madam
chairman
Madam,
chair
I
was
wondering
I
know
that
there's
going
to
be
a
privacy
fence
constructed
and
I
just
wanted
to
know
what
material
that
was
going
to
be.
They
were
going
to
use
to
to
put
that
up.
F
Madam
chair
commissioner
online
I
believe
that
they're
looking
at
doing
a
wood
privacy
fence,
I
will
get
I
could
get
clarification
for
that
and
come
back
and
the
owners
here.
So
I
can
ask
her
and
then
I'd
come
back
during
rebuttal
and
clarify
that.
Okay.
F
C
A
Any
other
questions
I'm
going
to
ask
the
applicant
when
they
come
forward
to
talk
about
the
neighborhood
meeting,
because
we
forgot
to
ask
that
question
anything
else
that
we
have
want
to
ask.
Okay
go
ahead
if
the
applicant
would
come
forward
and
if
you'll
provide
information
about
the
fence
in
the
neighborhood
meeting,
Madam.
F
Chair
members
of
the
commission,
I
just
clarified,
the
fence
is
wood,
it's
actually
already
built,
so
that's
existing
out
there.
The
neighborhood
meeting
I
did
not
host
that
the
owner
did
a
couple
of
the
neighbors
showed
up.
They
didn't
seem
to
indicate
they
had
any
concerns.
They
were
just
curious
about
the
project,
just
wondering
what
they
were
doing.
So
that's
the
information
that
I
have
from
that
meeting.
F
Yeah
yeah
Madam
chair
members
of
the
commission,
there's
kind
of
an
interesting
relationship.
There
I
believe
the
ex-wife
of
the
owner
of
this
property,
and
so
they
she
just
had
some
concerns
about
the
types
of
equipment
and
some
of
the
uses
on
the
site.
F
You
know,
as
was
stated,
we're
literally
asking
for
a
parking
area
to
be
approved
for
a
landscaping,
contractor's
yard,
so
I
know
that
they
had
some
concerns.
We've
met
all
the
conditions.
The
lot
is
five
acres,
there's
not
any
other
uses
that
are
going
on
there
and
I
confirmed
with
Mr
Lindstrom
that
any
of
the
private
you
know,
boats
or
recreational
vehicles
on
the
site
are
allowed
to
be
there
with
the
single
family
residents.
It
doesn't
have
any
bearing
on
the
the
contractor's
yard,
use.
Okay,.
F
F
N
A
You
appreciate
it
now:
I'll
close
the
public
hearing,
I'll
look
to
the
Commissioners
for
a
motion
to
approve
the
application,
deny
it
or
table
it.
D
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Is
there
a
second
commissioner
wigstrom
seconded
the
motion?
Go
ahead,
commissioner,
Scott
and
tell
us
why
you
think
we
should
do
this.
D
Yes,
I
just
I
I
do
believe
that
it's
this
is,
like
everyone
keeps
saying
it's
very
straightforward:
it's
just
gonna
Grant
a
little
bit
more
access
for
them
to
park
vehicles.
I
understand
that
you'd
want
to
have
some
of
that
offset
a
little
further
back
from
the
residents
there.
So
I
actually
think
it
complements
the
residents
quite
a
bit
to
to
move
it
away
from
the
home.
D
I
None
of
the
there's
been
no
agencies
that
have
any
objections
to
this.
It
seems
that
any
kind
of
neighborhood
issues
were
worked
out
so
I
I
see
no
reason
why
this
shouldn't
be
approved.
A
In
the
comments,
so
if
there
are
no
more
comments,
I'll
go
ahead
and
call
for
the
motion,
all
those
in
favor
of
this
but
motion
for
approval,
say
aye,
say
I,
commissioner
I,
okay
and
all
those
against
the
motion.
Please
say
aye.
So
let
the
minutes
reflect
that
all
of
the
Commissioners.
All
five
of
the
Commissioners
voted
for
this
motion.
I'm
going
to
make
an
executive
decision
and
we're
gonna
have
a
five
minute
break
here,
because
I
think
we're
going
to
be
a
little
bit
longer.
A
So
we'll
take
a
five
minute
break
until
seven
looks
like
7
15.,
yeah,.
A
Degroot
LLC
and
Mr
Danielson
is
going
to
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
this
project.
O
E
Ma'am
chair
commissioners,
before
I
begin,
my
presentation
there
is
a
lay
exhibit
from
the
academy
highway
district
that
needs
to
be
aired
into
the
record,
and
the
comments
from
the
800
Highway
District
will
be
known,
as
exhibit
number
29
and
copies
of
these
exhibits
were
passed
out
to
you
prior
to
the
meeting,
and
there
are
copies
on
the
back
table
for
the
public
project
number
202202778
cu-
msv
is
a
conditional
use
and
master
site
plan
for
a
public
quasi-public
use
associated
with
renewable
natural
gas
injection
site
for
the
Northwest
pipeline
Corporation.
E
E
The
renewable
gas
energy
renewable
gas
injection
site
will
inject
natural
gas
from
the
proposed
Degroot
Dairy
anaerobic
digester
in
Canyon
County
into
the
existing
Northwest
pipeline
Corporation
gas
system
present
at
the
subject
site.
You
can
kind
of
see
on
the
site
here.
This
is
kind
of
where
they'll
be
kind
of
doing
the
injection,
and
this
is
where
there's
pipeline
infrastructure
and
the
pipeline.
Basically
runs
through
kind
of
the
northwest
corner
here
of
the
subject:
property.
E
The
injection
site
will
operate
seven
days
a
week,
24
hours
a
day.
Try
to
deliver.
Deliveries
of
natural
gas
will
occur
during
daylight
hours.
The
ejection
site
will
be
unstaffed,
except
for
pure
rock
maze
checks,
which
would
be
one
employee
in
gas
injection,
which
would
be
one
employee
per
truck.
E
E
An
open
pasture
and
shrub
land
staff
ends
at
the
waiver
of
the
landscape
plan
is
Justified
because
the
site
is
not
located
in
Irrigation
District
and
does
not
have
irrigation
water.
It
will
not
create
significant
changes
to
the
current
site
conditions,
as
you
can
see
on
the
screen
here,
there's
an
existing
natural
gas
system
structures
that
will
be
in
front
of
the
injection
site,
that's
operated
by
airmound
gas
and
the
Northwest
pipeline
Corporation.
E
At
the
time
the
staff
report
was
written.
We
had
not
received
any
written
public
comments
on
this
application.
As
you
can
see
tonight,
we
do
have
a
few
members
of
the
public
are
here
this
evening
to
testify
key
agency
conditions
include
the
following:
the
associate
a
County
engineer
requires
a
grading
permit
be
submitted
to
the
a
County
engineer
for
approval.
E
The
account
building
officials
say
that
building
permit
will
be
required
for
all
structures
over
200
square
feet,
and
they
kind
of
highway
district
replied
that
cunimura
road
has
been
identified
as
a
future
Expressway,
and
the
applicant's
proposal
for
a
driveway
onto
kunimura
Road
should
be
approved
as
a
temporary
driveway
and
we'll
need
to
be
close
and
relocate
in
the
future
when
the
full
309
acre
property,
redevelops
or
improvements
to
kuna
Morrow
Road
are
made.
The
applicant
should
also
work
with
the
property
owner
to
obtain
access.
E
Easements
from
Pleasant
Valley
Road
to
the
site
and
cross
access
should
also
be
provided
to
the
adjacent
Parcels
owned
by
ear
Mound
gas
and
the
Northwest
pipeline.
Corporation
staff
ends
at
this
application
complies
with
a
county
code.
It
recommends
approval
to
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission.
In
my
presentation
to
you
will
be
known,
as
exhibit
number
30
for
the
record
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
Thank.
B
C
Mr
James
Mr
Danielson,
so
the
this
is
just
an
extension
of
the
existing
gas
facility.
That's
there
or
is
this
separate
ownership,
separate
lease
agreement.
E
C
E
E
E
A
P
A
A
P
And
I
I
want
to
take
the
opportunity
to
thank
you
all
for
the
the
time
and
opportunity
to
to
clarify
any
questions
that
y'all
might
have
to
touch
on
what
was
just
explained.
The
facility
that
is
being
proposed
out.
There
is
an
area
for
trucks
to
turn
around
and
then
there's
equipment,
that's
there
that
can
actually
pull
the
gas
off
of
the
truck
and
then
inject
it
into
the
actual
pipeline.
P
P
This
is
a
little
bit
different
of
a
of
a
setup
for
us
because
of
you
know
the
the
Farms
being
so
spread
out,
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
consolidate
them
to
this
this
facility,
but
we're
also
not
talking
about
a
lot
of
volume
of
gas
and
a
large
volume
of
trucking.
It's
the
amount
of
trucking
that's
going
to
occur
out
there
you
know,
might
be
a
the
max
of
a
handful
of
trucks
a
day
to
to
move
this
gas
from
the
farm
facility.
So
it's
a
it's.
P
It's
not
a
very
complex
deal
that
we're
we're
proposing
out
there
just
because
it
it
was
presented
to
us.
You
know
with
talks
with
Williams
and
with
talks
with
Intermountain,
that
this
facility
was
probably
the
best
fit
for
you
know
bringing
trucks
to
it
because
of
you
know
the
above
ground
facilities
that
were
already
there
and
I'm
I
can
answer
any
questions
that
y'all
may
have.
Thank.
B
I
know
it
was
recommended,
but
in
the
Idaho
Department
of
Fish
and
games
response
they
mentioned,
you
know
they
hadn't
done
any
specific
Wildlife
surveys
and
how
they
recommended.
You
know
partnering
with
a
few
different
agencies
such
as
Boise
State
University,
to
do
some
different
Wildlife
studies.
I
know
the
actual
Site
Area
is
very
small
compared
to
the
like
309
Acres
of
the
full
site.
I
was
just
curious.
If
you've,
you
know
started
any
of
that
research.
If
you
plan
on
doing
any
of
that,
you
know
Wildlife
analysis.
B
P
And
we
we've
actually
gone
through,
we
we've
hired
a
consulting
firm,
called
mergent
that
goes
through
literally
every
database
possible
to
do
desktop
evaluation
on
it.
P
We've
also
walked
through
with
the
different
state
agencies
of
anything
that
might
be
at
risk
out
there,
that
that
should
be
identified,
whether
it
is
part
of
the
larger
parcel
or
whether
you
know
it's,
it's
impacted
by
the
smaller
parcel
and
we've
also
worked
with
the
existing
pipeline
operators
who
are
out
there
who
have
provide
us.
You
know
historical
data
that
they
keep
track
of
with
them.
P
We've
also
made
the
notion
to
reach
out
with
I
believe
it
was
Boise
State
and
try
to
identify
anything
that
that
they
might
see
out
there
and
make
them
actively
a
part
of
the
process
to
to
investigate
it.
Further
with
us
awesome.
N
P
C
Commissioner,
Mr
Burger:
what
what
is
what
kind
of
infrastructure
will
there
be
above
ground
at
this
facility?
P
Not
much
there
Madam
chair
and
commissioner
Wickstrom,
we
have
this
facility
right
here.
Has
you
know,
obviously
the
the
pipe
that
goes
above
ground
and
then
the
valving,
but
we
also
have
a
small
decant
compressor
and
a
small,
basically
a
structure
for
all
the
metering
and
then
a
structure
for
heating
or
cooling
the
gas
working
with
the
the
changing
the
dynamic
of
the
gas
to
make
sure
that
it
can
be
injected
into
the
line.
It's
not
a
lot
of
equipment.
P
It's
a
you
know,
a
small
building,
the
size
of
a
shed
and
then
some
above
ground
valving
and
a
basically
a
long
like
you
know
above
ground
pipe,
maybe
40,
50
feet
that
has
different.
You
know
hose
sections
to
it
and
that's
really
a.
C
P
And
then
you
can
see
all
the
little
purposes
that
are
there:
they're
they're,
all
smaller
skidded
items,
so
any
of
the
decants,
the
compression,
the
metering.
It's
all
in
small
these
like
little,
they
look
like
job
boxes
almost.
C
Here
just
two
two
more
quick
questions
here:
yes,
sir,
and
so
so
noise
and
light
from
the
facility
there's
there's
a
compressor.
So
there's
a
little.
There
is
some
noise
going
on
there.
There's.
P
A
little
yeah
there's
a
it's
minimal
noise
on
the
compression
just
because
it's
only
enough
when
the
truck
does
come
up
to
be
able
to
pull
that
gas
off,
it's
called
a
decant
compressor,
so
it's
only
operational
when
the
truck
is
there
the
light
that
will
be
there
is
adequate
for
the
safety
and
obviously
we
you
know
wish
to
comply
with
all
the
the
the
requirements
of
the
the
counting
with
that.
P
But
it's
it's
we've
put
it
to
where
you
know.
If,
if
there's
nobody
there,
then
the
lights
are
typically
on
timers,
so
that
the
the
light
pollution's
cut
down
unless
there
is
a
regulation
of
which
24-hour
lighting
is
required.
But
we
haven't
run
into
that
yeah
facilities.
C
P
A
You
mentioned
this
was
a
unique
use.
How
many
of
these
places
do
you
have
we.
P
Have
35
Plus
facilities
I'm
sure
we
also
have
a
number
of
these
facilities
that
we
have
you
know
connected
to
just
pipelines,
but
what's
what's
unique
about
this
is
is
we're
instead
of
you
know,
Trucking
from
you
know,
closer
spots
that
that
are
all
like
a
wagon
wheel.
This
is
just
a
a
couple
facilities
that
are
out
there.
So
it's
it's
it's
one
of
our
smaller
facilities,
but
we're
really
excited
to
be
a
part
of
the
the
community
and
and
grow
with.
P
You
know
some
other
facilities
that
have
been
on
the
on
the
fence
about
you,
know,
erecting
the
digesters
and
and
getting
into
the
the
program
with
us.
P
Madam
chair,
our
I
I
can
speak
firsthand
because
I'm
typically
the
one
that
goes
out
and
works
with.
You,
know
the
community
and
works
with
the
the
neighbors
and
and
we
walk
through
the
the
different
facilities
with
the
neighbors.
You
know
we
have
different
site
events
where
we
bring
people
out
and
and
show
them
the
operation.
P
We
also
have
different
different,
like
hangers
and
and
information
that
we
we
give
out
to
them
and
typically
try
to
be
very
proactive
about
how
we
approach
the
the
community
with
any
type
of
information.
P
I'm
sure
I
thought
went
pretty
well,
it
was
nine
nine
or
ten
people
that
that
came
and
had
some
concerns
over
the
traffic
had
some
concerns
over
you
know,
kinamore
Road
has
has
the
the
likelihood
of
speeders
on
it.
I
guess
is
is
one
of
the
bigger
concerns,
but
there
was
some
conversation
about
the
turn
lane
that
that
had
been
discussed,
but
otherwise
it
was
fairly
positive.
D
D
I,
just
just
comparatively
I'm
I'm
kind
of
looking
at
Google
Earth,
because
they're
really
good
with
maps
and
stuff.
What
what
is
it
going?
What
what's
the
difference
so
what's
what's
being
used
there
now
do
you
have?
Is
it
other
trucks
feeding
natural
gas
into
it?
Now
or
is
it
just
a
metering
site
and
you
want
to
add
a
little
bit
to
it
so
that
you
can
have
this
operation
I'm
just
trying
to
see
what
exactly
is
going
on?
What
the
difference
is
between
current
and
future
use
and.
P
Yeah
Madam,
chair
and
and
commissioner
Scott
out
there
right
now
is
a
is
yes,
it's
a
meter,
Insight,
there's
multiple
there
there's
one
from
Intermountain.
That's
there
and
there's
then
there's
one
from
Williams:
okay,
adding
the
equipment
for
the
tap
is
extra
equipment
to
what's
existing,
but
it's
nothing
more
than
what
they
have
existing
on
their
side.
So,
aside
from
the
metering
that
they
have,
we
also
have
the
metering
aside
from
any
of
the
above
ground
piping.
You
know
they
have
much
larger
above
ground
piping.
P
All
of
this
is
small
diameter
pipe
and
it's
it's
very
low
impact.
The
the
largest
impact
truly
is
the
is
the
the
three
acre
pad
there
for
turning
around
the
trucks.
D
On
them,
so
you
wouldn't
other
than
the
other
than
the
pad
itself.
The
footprint
of
like
the
fence
line
is
only
going
to
be
extended.
D
P
P
Se
Madam
chair
commissioner
Scott
this,
this
entire
site
will
be
surrounded
by
fencing,
so
the
the
footprint
of
the
fencing
will
be.
The
perimeter
of
the
three
acres
is
what
we're
we're
looking
for
currently
because
of
we
want
to
be
able
to
protect
where
the
trucks
are
coming
in
and
turning
around
and
and
it's
a
it
it's
a
safeguard,
obviously,
for
for
wildlife
and
and
for
any
you
know.
Obviously
anybody
out
there.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Just
quick
point
of
clarification.
Do
you
encourage
Commissioners
to
not
be
on
Google
Earth
during
the
hearing?
Only
because
we
have
to
have
that
as
an
exhibit,
so
we
probably
want
you
to
give
that
to
Brent
just
so
he
can
whatever
that
Google
Earth
you
know
Ariel.
Is
we
just
want
that
long
term?
It's
and
again.
This
is
only
because
the
rest
of
the
folks
can't
see
the
Google
Earth
image
that
you're
looking
at.
G
So
we
want
to
try
to
share
that
with
everybody,
so
we'll
enter
that
in
as
an
exhibit
and
then
again
you
know
not
to
chastise
anybody.
Sorry,
commissioner
Scott,
but
we
want
to
try
to
stay
off
of
you,
know
our
own
personal
internet
searches
during
the
hearing,
because,
again
that's
difficult
to
enter
stuff
into
the.
H
G
D
G
A
N
Yes,
ma'am:
how
long
does
it
take
from
the
time
that
the
truck
arrives
at
the
facility
to
go
ahead
and
to
transfer
the
gas
from
the
truck
into
the
pipeline
and
then
turn
around
and
leave?
What's
that
time
frame,
look
like.
P
Madam
chair
and
commissioner
Retzloff,
you
know
typically
the
the
once
the
truck
enters
the
facility
and
then
begins.
The
decanting
process
could
be
anywhere
from
15
to
20
to
30
minutes.
It's
not
a
long
process
it
it's,
not
a
high
volume
of
gas.
So
it
does,
you
know,
add
pressure.
It
does.
You
know,
go
pretty
quickly,
so.
N
A
Think
we'll
go
ahead
and
ask
you
to
sit
down
and
then
I
will
we'll
go
forward
with
our
list
of
people.
I
like
to
call
Mike
cook
that
come
forward.
You'll
get
three
minutes
to
visit
and
gives
your
name
and
address.
Q
Hi,
madam
chair
and
Commissioners,
forgive
me
if
I'm
not
familiar
with
all
the
formalities.
I'll
do
I'll
do
my
best,
so
Michael
cook,
16188,
South,
Vista,
Avenue,
Kuna
83634.
Q
Some
of
the
concerns
I
have
after
listening
to
it,
are
some
of
the
noise
pollution,
especially
24
7..
We
live
in
an
area
that
I
can
pretty
much
hear
my
neighbor
who's,
probably
about
600
000
feet
across
the
way.
I
can
hear
them
talking
in
the
yard.
In
my
neighborhood,
because
the
way
the
sound
goes,
if
he's
got
trucks
coming
in
there,
24
7,
we
all
have
dogs
that
are
alerted
to
noise
and
they're,
going
to
be
barking
all
night
long.
So
that's
going
to
be
a
big
problem.
Q
Light
pollution
is
another
problem:
they're
going
to
be
shooting
lights
directly
at
our
at
our
houses
at
some
point
throughout
the
middle
of
the
night.
That's
a
big
concern.
Another
concern
is
the
the
accident.
If
you
have
an
accident
count
at
Pleasant
Valley
in
cunamora,
there's
a
lot
of
accidents
there
and
I
would
suggest,
and
I've
talked
to
achd
about
putting
something
there
for
a
roundabout,
a
light.
Stop
signs
four-way
because
there's
an
accident
there,
probably
about
four
to
five
times
a
month.
Q
You
can
do
a
count
on
it
and
you
can
see
major
major
accidents,
and
so,
if
you
have
gas
trucks
going
through
that
intersection
and
other
cars
coming
down
that
intersection
you're
going
to
have
some
problems
with
gas
explosions.
Things
like
that.
The
other
concern
I
have
is
leaks
that,
while
they're
hooking
up
it's
it's
a
person
who's
who
we
are
we're
valuable
and
he's
gonna,
there's
gonna
be
a
problem
where
there's
gonna
be
a
leak.
Q
There
there's
going
to
be
a
spark,
there's
going
to
be
a
fire
and
in
that
land
out
there
it's
if,
if
you've
been
out
there,
when
there's
a
wildfire
out
there,
it's
scary
and
dangerous
for
anybody,
that's
near
it,
and
so
that's
another
concern.
We
have
I
believe
there's
a
what's
the
word
I'm
looking
for
a
plant
in
that
area.
That
is
what's
the
word.
Q
Endangered
is
the
word
I'm
looking
for
endangered.
That's
in
that
area,
I
believe
that
there
was
a
study.
The
other
concern
I
have
is
there's
309
Acres
he's
using
three.
A
conditional
use
permit
for
all
309.
Is
that
what
my
understanding
is?
Does
that
mean
that
they
can
then
do
other
things
in
that
whole
309
acres?
Are
they
planning
on
putting
a
in
the
future
a
plant
to
create
the
gas?
That's
a
big
concern
because
then
I'm
getting
then
we're
getting
manure
and
we're
getting
landfill
and
everything
else
coming
into
our
our
neighborhood.
Q
So
it's
just
not
a
great
place.
We
have
I,
don't
know
10
to
12
homes,
I
think
it's
10
but
I'd,
say
10
to
12
homes
on
our
street
in
that
area,
and
then
there's
a
few
near
there
and
I'm
not
sure
who
he
had
at
the
neighborhood
meeting,
but
I
didn't
get
a
letter
and
I'm
very
close
to
that
facility
and
I.
Don't
think
most
of
other
people
that
are
here
got
a
letter
for
that.
Q
A
Yep
we
appreciate
it.
I'm
gonna
call
Misty
cook.
R
S
It
was
nice
Saturday
myself,
maybe
we
were
going
to
school
and
I
was
turning
left
on
the
cuta
board.
I,
look
to
my
right
and
did
not
see
any
big
rigs
and
as
I
came
out,
I
was
definitely
going
slower
than
I
should
have,
knowing
that
our
our
road
is
filled
with
big
rigs.
But
it
was
just
a
morning
that
it
was
like
I'm
going
to
school.
S
I'm
taking
him
just
and
I
wasn't
prepared
for
the
big
rig
to
come
behind
me,
but
there
was
two
big
Rings
one
hit
me
and
thankfully
he
pushed
me
out
of
the
way,
because
the
next
big
Rick
came
and
moved
into
the
left
lane
and
then
passed
me
and
then
I
saw
the
big
rig
behind
me
and
I
was
thinking,
wait
what
is
going
on
and
he
stopped
and
said
I'm.
So
sorry,
I
hit
you
and
I
was
like
you
hit
me
and
he
was
like
I
hit.
R
You
and
I
mean
I,
don't
know
I'm
just
traumatized
by
the
fact
that
I
know
our
street
is,
is
populated
now,
with
big
rigs
coming
down
there
and
with
the
plant
that
was
built
to
the
I'm.
Sorry
I,
don't
know
my
directions,
but
the
the
the
what
plan
is
it
make
the
meat
factory
CBC,
The,
Beef,
Factory
I,
know
that
we're
going
to
have
more
and
more
traffic,
but
there's
been
so
many
accidents.
R
How
is
this
big
rig
going
to
stop
and
turn
into
just
a
quarter
block
from
our
house?
It
just
it
scares
me.
It
makes
me
feel
uncomfortable
I
have
new
drivers,
my
teenagers
are
16
and
and
I
have
a
13
year
old
and
then
to
think
that
they
would
be
constantly
inflicted
with
this
concern
of,
like
do
I
turn
do
I
not
turn
it
just
scares
me.
My
main
concern
is
just
that
they
would
cause
a
lot
of
traffic
beyond
the
light
pollution.
R
Beyond
the
24
7
traffic,
our
neighbors
are
going
to
be
severely
affected,
they
will
want
to
sell
their
homes
and
then
it's
we
are
in
rural
preserve
that
we
moved
out
here
for
a
reason,
so
that
we
would
not
have
these
issues,
and
so
I
would
just
appreciate
it
if
that
would
be
taken
into
consideration.
Thank
you.
Thank.
R
A
J
Madam
chair
members
of
the
commission,
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
couple
of
comments
I'm
with
Pacific
AG
Renewables,
and
we
also
are
in
the
business
of
collecting,
Dairy
manure
and
digesting
it
for
production
of
biogas
and
just
wanted
to
say
that
during
the
past
several
months,
we've
been
working
on
a
dairy
and
AG
renewable
natural
gas
project
as
well
and
been
working
with
staff
members
from
various
state
and
local
agencies
and,
like
breitmark,
we're
in
that
business
of
producing
a
renewable
natural
gas
from
dairy
manure.
J
Additionally,
we
will
also
co-produce
CO2,
clean
water
and
recapture
nutrients,
and
we
just
wanted
to
say
that
we
support
that
project
and
feel
like
what
breitmark's
doing
we
support.
You
know
like
ours.
Renewable
natural
gas
is
a
great
opportunity
for
dairies
and
provides
an
important
and
vital
contribution
to
our
community
and
to
the
environment.
A
T
T
We
have
seen
a
lot
of
accidents
out
in
our
area
within
a
one
mile
from
our
intersection
down
to
Pleasant,
Valley
and
kunamora.
They
did
mention
that
the
injection
site,
the
pipes
are
above
the
ground
but
the
put
for
the
injection,
but
the
pipes,
I
guess
they're,
going
to
put
them
straight
across
50
feet
or
something
like
that.
So
I
don't
know
if
they're
underground
or
going
to
be
above
ground,
but
we
are
homesteaders,
everybody
that's
out
there.
So
we
do
have
concerns
about
water,
we're
all
on
Wells.
T
We
raise
our
food,
we
raise
our
meat
for
our
livestock
for
consumption
and
I
agree
with
Misty
that
the
flow
of
any
more
traffic
out
there
we
get
quite
a
bit
already
just
because
there's
a
huge
Equestrian
Center
down
there
and
I
have
signs
to
slow
down
all
the
time,
and
the
noise,
of
course,
would
be
totally
opposed
to
any
noises.
That
would
be
a
distraction
in
our
neighborhood.
Whatever
in
the
morning
or
at
night
and
I
think
that
about
wraps
it
up
for
me
thank.
U
Chris
Maloney
16825
South,
Vista,
Avenue
Kuna,
so
I'm
gonna
kind
of
go
off
of
what
Mike
cook
said
safety
so.
U
I
was
in
the
Navy.
I
was
a
damage
control
man,
which
was
a
basically
a
firefighter,
so
I
am
qualified
in
fuels.
I
was
a
qualified
to
be
on
the
flight
deck,
so
I
refueled
helicopters
for
years,
and
you
know
qualified
what
we
call
the
crash
in
Smash,
which
was
you
know,
firefighting
in
case
the
something
happened
to
the
helicopter.
U
That's
kind
of
my
key
thing:
there
was
a
lot
of
safety
protocols
when
dealing
with
fuels,
whether
liquid,
you
know
gas
whatever
so
we're
dealing
with
a
Layman.
A
truck
driver
he's
going
to
get
trained
on
how
to
put
gas
into
a
well,
but
he's
not
going
to
get
trained.
Very
well,
there's
going
to
be
an
accident
at
some
point
and
we
are
in
a
high
fire
zone
area.
U
Just
a
few
years
ago
we
had
a
really
bad
fire.
It
was
what
170
Acres
something
like
that
went.
T
U
It
was
bad
if
one
of
these
trucks
goes,
it's
not
going
to
be
a
small
explosion.
It's
and
we've
got
Sage.
We've
got
a
lot
of
stuff
out
there
and
for
somebody
to
tap
in
to
a
you
know
this
test.
What
is
it
called
a
head
this
this
thing
and
you
know
in
order
to
inject
gas.
U
V
Madam,
chair
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Adam
Evan
I'm
at
16225,
South
Vista,
Avenue
Kuna,
so
my
focus
here
tonight
is,
even
though
this
is
a
conditional
use
permit.
This
is
still
rural
Preserve
and
we
really
need
to
think
about.
What's
going
to
happen
with
that
land,
and
there
are
several
concerns
that
I
think
necessitate
an
environmental
impact
assessment.
V
Now
we
have
had
a
biologist
on
the
adjacent
property
who
was
walking
around
find
potential
habitat
for
this
endangered
species
and
I
think
in
order
to
make
sure
that
this
three
acre
parking
lot
that
would
be
put
in
here
before
anything
is
done.
Something
needs
to
be
looked
at.
We
need
to
have
an
actual
study
done
here
and
ins
and
beyond
that,
depending
on
the
results
of
the
study
that
could
require
a
biological
survey
with
the
Department
of
Fish
and
Fish
and
Wildlife
and
potentially
a
habitat
conservation
plan
for
the
endangered
species.
V
So
this
is
something
that
doesn't
exist
anywhere
else
the
world,
but
our
little
corner
here,
and
we
should
make
sure
that
it's
taken
care
of
before
anything
is
done
now
beyond
that
part
of
the
environmental
impact
assessment
should
include
traffic,
air
pollution
and
light
pollution.
Now
we've
heard
quite
a
bit
about
that
already,
but
I
will
say:
10
trucks
a
day,
24
7
right
now,
we've
heard
how
excited
they
are
to
bring
methane
and
inject
it
into
this
pipeline
and
how
they
want
to
grow
with
the
community.
So
that's
10
trucks
right
now.
V
We
have
no
idea
how
many
trucks
that's
going
to
be
in
the
future
and
at
20
minutes
10
trucks
a
day.
So
that's
200
minutes.
So
that's
three
hours
a
day
that
we're
going
to
have
trucks
in
and
out
flashing
Us
in
the
middle
of
the
night
air
compressors
running
three
hours
a
day
right
now,
so
multiply
that
by
two
by
three.
So
what
24
hours
a
day
non-stop,
we
have
trucks,
bringing
methane
and
injecting
it
into
this
site.
That
is
not
what
rural
preserve
is
for.
V
V
A
You
very
much
we
appreciate
it.
Valerie
Tim.
W
Good
evening
Madam,
chair
and
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Valerie
Tim
I
live
at
16842
South
Vista
Avenue
in
Kuna,
83634
I
have
about
two
pages
of
questions,
so
I'll
try
to
get
through
all
of
them
done
a
lot
of
research
about
this
and
learned
some
new
things
with
the
applicant
tonight.
The
first
is
with
the
neighborhood
certification.
There
are
about
a
dozen
homes
on
Vista
Avenue,
which
this
property
is
closest
to,
and
very
few
of
us
were
notified
within
that
1
000
foot,
minimum
requirement.
W
I
think
it
would
have
been
in
good
faith
with
the
applicant
to
notify
the
entire
neighborhood.
He
did
mention
that
they
do
a
proactive
approach
with
their
other
projects
that
they
do
walk-throughs
with
the
neighborhoods
tonight.
That
did
not
occur
in
this
case
and
I
want
that
to
be
to
be
noted
here,
I
was
able
to
make
contact
with
one
neighbor
that
attended
the
meeting
that
was
held
in
may,
not
nine,
and
that
application
that
was
sent
out
or
or
the
the
notification
stated
that
it
contained
photos
of
the
location,
and
it
did
not.
W
W
We
are
concerned
that
there
is
no
master
plan
for
the
site
long
term,
so
that
three
acres
is
part
of
a
larger
parcel
that
is
currently
for
sale,
and
we
could
see
expansions
with
a
digester
that
might
come
so
rather
than
taking
it
from
Canyon
County.
What's
not
to
say
that
that
will
happen
right
here
in
our
backyards
and
I.
Ask
you
as
you're,
making
this
decision
tonight.
Would
you
want
this
in
your
backyard?
W
Would
the
applicant
want
this
in
their
backyard
because
we
do
not,
and
we
want
to
protect
the
rangeland
for
grazing,
for
agricultural
preservation
and
to
be
used
in
that
way
we
see
from
the
north
and
from
the
West
meta
our
new
neighbor,
more
subdivisions
coming
in.
It's
really
important
that
we
protect
AG
land
because
we're
not
going
to
make
more
of
it.
W
W
There
was
supposed
to
be
a
Fire
Authority
approval
there
we're
very
concerned
about
fire
safety
in
protecting
our
land
or
not
in
a
fire
district.
That
I'm
aware
of
so
response
times
could
be
an
issue.
The
site
will
not
be
staffed.
I
also
found
some
inconsistencies
here
in
exhibit
29.
It
says
that
deliveries
will
occur
in
daylight
hours.
He
mentioned
that
they
will
be
24
7..
They
also
mentioned
that
there
would
be
Lighting
on
the
site
and
the
exhibit
29
says
that
there
will
be
no
utilities
proposed
to
serve
the
site.
A
I
asked
the
audience
to
to
not
clap
it.
Just
gets
it
gets,
it
gets,
creates
a
negative
environment,
so
we
won't
clap
when
people
talk,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
up
and
talking
I
appreciate
it.
I'm
Keith
cook.
O
O
Methane
gas
is
in
my
experience
in
my
life
is
a
very
dangerous
product
can
migrate
into
Wells
migrate
into
into
basements
into
crawl
spaces,
and
my
other
concern
is
that
there
this
is
a
conditional
use
permit
for
309
acres
and
they're,
showing
you
what
they're
going
to
do
with
three
and
are
they
going
to
start
building
digestive
plants
on
these
other
306
Acres?
O
O
So
that's
that's
my
number
one
concern.
Thank
you.
I
My
name
is
Prairie
Odell
I
live
at
16978
South
Vista
Avenue
Kuna
Idaho
I
was
at
the
meeting
at
the
library
in
Kuna
in
May
I'd
like
to
state
that
I
only
saw
two
people
there
at
that
time
and
I
at
that
time.
I
brought
up
concerns
about
safety
for
the
facility
with
the
road
and
that-
and
it
didn't
sound
like
at
that
time.
I
They
had
thought
about
that,
but
this
looks
like
they
have
at
least
attempted
to
address
a
little
bit
of
that
yeah
I
just
wanted
to
agree
with
my
fellow
neighbors
that
I'm
concerned
about
the
traffic
and
if
a
truck
got
hit,
trying
to
pull
in
by
another
semi
truck
I
know
at
the
meeting
he
said
that
the
truck
would
survive.
I
I
I
Is
East
down
kinomara.
X
Thanks
General
Dell
16987,
South,
Vista,
Avenue,
Kuna,
Idaho
83634
just
wanted
to
also
radio
everything
from
the
neighbors
I
think
we
were
the
one
of
the
only
ones
that
actually
received
the
two
letters
so
I
had
to
notify
most
of
the
neighbors
of
what
was
happening
also
really
concerned
about
explosions
or
fire
hazards.
We
had
a
couple
of
huge
fires
last
year
that
we
pretty
much
had
to
pack
up
to
evacuate,
for
we
had
to
notify
all
of
our
neighbors
about
what
was
happening
so
this
being
even
closer.
X
It
would
pretty
much
demolish
our
whole
neighborhood
also
with
the
security
issues
like
what
are
they
going
to
do
about
if
there's
any
tampering
with
the
gas
lines
or
anything
concerned
about
not
having
anybody's
staff
there,
24
7..
X
Also,
the
traffic
is
definitely
a
huge
concern.
I'm,
not
sure
when,
but
driving
past
would
a
pickup
is
flipped
over
on
that
corner
and
not
knowing
if
everybody
made.
It
is
definitely
a
concern
to
continuously
see
that
so
just
want
to
also
reiterate
what
everybody
else
has
said.
So
thank
you
for
the
time.
Thank
you.
Y
John
neindorf15950
South,
Vista
Cuna,
you
know
I
just
agree
with
all
these
folks.
We
live.
We
we
moved
out
there
to
get
away
from
dairies,
I
mean
any
sort
of
industrial
area
like
that.
We're
trying
to
get
away
from
it
and
the
fire
is
a
big
big
concern.
So
I
just
agree
with
everybody
here.
A
Thank
you,
Amy.
Z
Hello,
Amy,
nindorf15950,
South,
Vista,
Avenue,
Kuna,
I
I
also
have
concerns
obviously
about
the
fires.
We
pay
a
very
high
premium
for
our
homeowners
insurance
because
we
are
over
10
miles
away
from
the
nearest
fire
station
and
things
go
pretty
quick
out
there.
I
know
this
is
going
to
be
an
expressway
cunamora,
going
to
be
some
kind
of
Expressway
in
the
future.
But
I
don't
know
when
that
will
happen.
Z
The
road
was
recently
repaved,
Rock,
whatever
maybe
three
years
ago,
so
I
assume
they're
not
planning
on
doing
anything
really
major
anytime.
Soon.
Z
We've
made
many
calls
to
achd
and
I've
even
spoken
to
people
in
the
police
department,
who
are
crass
crash
reconstruction
Specialists
that
have
come
out
to
that
intersection
that
everyone's
spoken
about
and
they
feel
like
it's
a
safe
intersection.
Z
Disregarding
you
know,
what's
been
happening
so
far,
they
haven't
decided
to
do
anything
about
it.
I
don't
know
if
that's
something
that
would
change
with
even
more
increased
traffic,
but
it
hasn't
with
even
what
we've
seen
with
the
nearby
meat
packing
plant,
but
I
just
agree
with
my
neighbors
and
I
was
a
little
disappointed
that
I
being
I'm.
The
we're
the
top
house
upper
left
very
first
house
when
you
turn
South
onto
Vista
Avenue.
We
didn't
receive
any
notification.
So
thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank.
A
A
And
there's
nobody
else
in
the
room,
so
we're
gonna
go
back
to
a
lot
of
questions,
I
think
for
Mr
Danielson,
so
I'll.
Let
the
other
Commissioners
go
first,
who
wants
to
start
Madam
chair,
commissioner
Exton.
B
Mr
Danielson
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
could
kind
of
touch
on,
since
it
is
a
conditional
use
and
master
site
plan,
but
also
only
for
a
small
part
compared
to
again
like
a
309
acre
parcel
just
like
kind
of.
If
you
touch
on
that
Dynamic,
you
know
with
the
way
the
permits
currently
written.
Would
the
applicant
be
able
to
add.
You
know,
like
a
lot
of
the
residents
were
saying
that
digester
on
that
309
Acres,
would
that
have
to
be
a
whole
separate
application.
E
B
D
Does
the
staff
know
exactly
how
far
this
is
from
Vista?
You.
E
Know
where
this
neighborhood
is
so
basically
I
have
the
map
up
here.
So
this
is
Pleasant
Valley
Road,
and
this
is
kunamora
Road,
and
basically
it's
about
from
here.
This
line
here
to
here
is
about
half
a
mile
from
this
line
from
the
net
from
the
metering
station
that
have
the
air
Mount
gases
to
Vista
Avenue.
D
Does
a
did
you
did
anyone
on
the
staff
and
I?
Don't
know
if
this
isn't
a
purview
of
what
we
do
but
get
a
hold
of
gallon
fire,
the
federal
fire
department
out
of
gallon
field,
because
the
reason
I'm
asking
is
because
these
have
a
lot
of
fire
concerns
I'm
a
product
of
gallon
field.
We
have
the
range
out
there,
which
causes
a
lot
of
fires
and
I
get
that
the
fires
are
a
concerned,
but
that
happens
at
the
orchard
training
area.
E
So
Madam
chair
and
commissioner
Scott.
So
this
the
fire
protection
falls
under
the
purview
of
the
Idaho
State
Fire
Marshal
and
Idaho
State
Fire
Marshal
was
transmitted.
This
application,
no
fight
of
the
application.
D
H
E
Whatsoever,
I
did
not
receive
any
comments
from
the
I
who
State
Fire,
Marshal's
Office.
A
B
So
I
remember
my
other
question
with
the
Idaho
State
Fire
Marshal.
You
know
it
does
say
as
condition
one
B,
the
Idaho
State
Fire
Marshal
or
his
designee
must
approve
all
fire
flow
requirements
and
or
building
plans
kind
of
building
off
of
that,
and
the
fact
that
we
got
no
response
with
the
Idaho
State
Fire
Marshal
is
is
similar
to
achg,
where
typically
no
response
means
everything's,
okay
or
in
this
instance
there's
no
response
mean
it'd,
be
in
our
like
everyone's
best
interest
to
wait
until
we
get
a
response
of
some
kind.
E
So
Madam
chair,
Mr,
X
and
typically,
if
we
don't
receive
a
response
from
the
Iowa
State
Fire
Marshal.
That
means
you
know
everything's,
okay,.
C
I
was
probably
reading
something
I
heard
part
of
it,
but
so
if,
if
cunamora
turns
into
an
expressway,
they
would
have
to
change
their
access
point
to
another
places.
They.
E
Would
so
if
we
look
at
the
map
here
so
right
now,
acc's
granted
them
temporary
access
onto
kunamar
Road.
Obviously,
if
qmr
Road,
when
it
becomes
an
expressway,
basically
be
a
limited
access.
Highway
and
basically,
you
know
with
being
a
limited
access
Highway.
They
wouldn't
want
any
basically
access
points.
C
N
No
Madam
chairman,
thank
you.
Okay,.
D
Who's,
your
Scott,
can
you
just
kind
of
describe
what
other
businesses
or
operations
are
in
the
surrounding
area
by
chance?
Do
you.
E
Have
sure
so
so
we
have
right
here
at
the
corner,
which
this
is
an
older
aerial
photo.
This
is
a
contractor's
yard
here
at
the
corner,
and
then
we
have
kind
of
further
to
the
north.
We
have
the
Idaho
State
Prison,
maybe
I'll
kind
of
go
to
another
photo
here,
that's
a
bit
bigger,
so
we
have
the
Iowa.
E
State
pen
is
right
here
and
then
we
have
kind
of
like
a
private
prison
facility
kind
of
right
here
in
this
area,
and
then
we
have,
you
know,
there's
another
kind
of
industrial
type,
Warehouse
building
right
here,
and
then
we
have
is
that
other
neighbors
mentioned
you
know
we
have
a
few
farms
and
and
kind
of
more
rural
residential
areas
here
along
Vista,
so
we
have
obviously
the
neighborhood
that
come
and
testify
them
here
on
Vista
Avenue
right
here
and
then
we
have
a
running
Arena,
A,
Horse
Brewing
facility
right
here
towards
the
south
end
of
EST
Avenue.
E
D
E
I,
just
okay,
you
don't
actually
I,
think
there's
and
I
kind
of
misspoke,
so
I
know
there's
a
little
Warehouse
right
here
kind
of
across
the
street,
but
I
think
this
right
here
is
now
that
I
think
about
it
is
the
shooting
range
right
here
and
then
we
have
another
shooting
range.
That's
kind
of
on
this
same
road
as
you
go.
The
edaha
a
raffle
range
is
further
up,
probably
a
few
miles
to
the
east,
closer
to
Interstate
for
in
the
blacks,
Creek
Road
exit.
E
That's
another
shooting
range,
that's
out
in
the
area.
Okay,.
E
Ma'am
chair
before
I
forget
the
the
Google
from
commissioner
Scott.
That's
going
to
be
exhibit
number
31.
I'll.
D
I
know
that
environmental
stuff
is
looked
at
out
there.
Do
you
know
if
that
environmental
includes
what
one
of
the
the
residents
said
about,
not
know
the
NAT
gas
effect
on
water?
Maybe
that
would
be
something
for
the
applicant
but
I'm.
E
Just
wondering
that's
probably
something
for
the
applicant
to
maybe
discuss
with
his
rebuttal
with
you.
Okay,
all
right.
A
Okay,
my
question
is
the
applicant
mentioned
this
rural
preserve
zoning
and
that
was
kind
of
new
to
me.
So
I
wondered
if
you
could
talk
about
the
zoning
in
this
area,
so.
E
Basically,
map
chair,
the
Sony
that
is
out
in
this
area
and
for
the
greater
part
of
kind
of
More,
Southern
and
Eastern
egg
counties
called
Rural
Preservation,
and
so
the
role
preservation
District.
It's
basically
you
know
kind
of
Rangeline
for
the
most
part,
plus
some
kind
of
rural
residential
type
uses.
E
So
the
minimum
parcel
size
in
the
role
preservation
district
is
40
acres
and
then
it
has
a
lot
of
uses
that
are
similar
to
like
the
rural
residential
districts.
So
we
allow
things
like
you
know.
Typically
in
this
area
in
the
world
preservation
District
you'd
see
uses
you
know
like
livestock
confinement
facilities,
dairies,
those
are
all
loud
uses
in
the
Rural
Preservation
District.
E
You
also
have
you
know
the
five-year
approvals
for
the
contractor's
yards,
and
then
you
also
have
you
know,
there's
all
you
know
even
like
power
plants,
so
like
a
solar
power
plants
allowed
in
the
RP
District
through
conditional
use,
and
then
you
have
other
uses
such
as.
E
If
somebody
wanted
to
do
like
event,
you
know
kind
of
you
know,
maybe
a
commercial
kennel
that
would
be
allowed
in
the
Royal
preservation
district
and
and
as
a
commissioner
of
Scott
mentioned,
you
know,
even
shooting
ranges
are
allowed
in
the
Rural
Preservation
district
and
I
forgot.
There's
another
shooting
range
kind
of
West
of
Pleasant
Valley,
Road
north
of
on
the
north
side
of
Kumar
Road,
and
that's
the
Boise
City
you
have.
They
have
a
shooting
range
for
their
Police
Department.
A
E
The
the
compo
this
Boise
City
composting
facility,
that
is
on
Cloverdale
Road
and
that's
probably
a
few
miles
away
and
then
I
think
the
beef
packing
facility
is
I'm
thinking,
that's
near
Colin,
Barker
and
so
I
think
Cole
Road,
that's
probably
maybe
two
or
three
miles
from
the
intersection
of
Pleasant
Valley
Road,
maybe
four
miles
from
this
site.
A
H
A
Exactly
say
that
three
times
really
fast,
so
so
what
is
their
recommendation
that
that
the
applicant
does
with
regarding
sensitive
wildlife
and
sensitive
plants?
I.
E
Think
what
may
well
they
may
want
the
applicant
to
do
is
maybe
you
know,
at
least
for
the
three
acre
site
that
you
know
the
improvements
are
going.
Beyond
is
probably
have
a
a
botanist
or
Wildlife
biologists
go
out
there
and
just
kind
of
walk
the
site
and
determine
if
there's
any
other
species
out
there.
E
So
one
thing
that's,
maybe
kind
of
unique
about
this
site
so
about
probably
about
like
15
years
ago,
or
so
you
know,
there
was
a
proposed
plant
Community
kind
of
located
on
this
bigger
parcel
I
think
it
was
the
southern
Crossroads
playing
Community
Pros
plant
community
and
that
plant
Community
never
went
anywhere,
and
so
what
may
have
happened
in
that
situation
with
it
being
a
planning
Community?
They
probably
had
done
some
previous
studies.
E
You
know
15
years
ago,
20
years,
you
know
18
years
ago,
17
years
ago,
to
kind
of
do
some
pulmonary
surveys
out
here,
and
that
might
be
some
information
that
the
Iowa
Department
of
fishing
game
kind
of
maybe
had
from
those
previous
surveys
where
you
know
they
had
indicated
that
more
than
likely,
there's
probably
not
much.
You
know
at
that
particular
site,
but
they
would
recommend
you
know
from
a
additional
stage
to
be
done
just
to
kind
of
verify
that.
A
So
is
that
recommendation
included
in
our
conditions
right
now
or
is
that
a
condition
that
the
Commissioners
could
add.
A
E
A
G
A
Of
work,
that's
I
appreciate
that,
can
you
address
the
requirements
for
lights
and
security
on
this
type
of
property.
E
So
the
light
fixture
itself
will
have
to
have
some
kind
of
cover
over
it.
So
it's
not
kind
of
you
know
going
into
the
night
sky
and
then
they'll
also
need
to
show
give
us
a
full
metric
report.
The
full
metric
report
would
show
us
where
the
light
from
light
fish
is
going
to
fall
on
the
ground,
and
then
the
light
lighting
plan
will
help
us.
You
know
prevent
light
pollution.
E
You
know
shining
into
the
you
know
neighboring
Property
Owners
to
the
East
and
Southeast
and
then
another
condition
that
the
USA
commissioned
could
make.
Is
you
know
if
obviously
we're
concerned
about,
you
know
truck
lights?
We
could
definitely
require
them
to
put
a
solid
perimeter
fence
around
the
the
site,
and
that
would
help
to
prevent
the
track
lights
from
kind
of
shining
beyond
the
site
itself.
A
E
Oh
man,
I'm
sure,
based
on
on
the
testimony
you
heard
tonight,
you
could
limit
the
hours
of
operation
based
upon
you
know
kind
of
the
surrounding
area,
so
this
is
a
conditional
use
or
special
use,
and
so
with
the
conditionings
or
special
use,
you
are
able
to
take
into
consideration.
E
You
know
the
surrounding
neighborhood
in
terms
of
drafting
conditions
of
approval,
to
mitigate
the
impact
that
the
use
would
have
on
neighboring
properties.
So
if
you
want
to
say
you
know,
the
hours
of
operation
are
from
6
a.m
to
10
p.m.
E
You
could
do
that
or
whatever
hours
of
operation
you
would
like
to
have,
that
could
definitely
be
a
condition
of
approval
and
then,
if
you
also
on
the
same
note,
want
to
limit
the
number
of
trucks
you
know
come
to
the
site
daily,
you
could
have
a
maximum
number
of
of
trucks
coming
to
the
site.
So
if
you
said
we
want
to
have
no
more
than
15
trucks
come
to
the
site,
you
can
have
that
as
a
condition
of
approval
as
well.
A
Thank
you
in
your
research.
Did
you
do
you
know
how
long
the
actual
pipeline
has
been
there.
E
I
do
not
know
how
long
it's
been
there.
I
would
assume
it's
probably
been
there
for
years,
I
mean.
Obviously
this
area
has
had
natural
gas.
You
know
service
for
years.
You
know,
I
know
you
know
kind
of
in
other
areas.
I
think
I
lived,
grew
up
in
an
area.
You
know
two
miles
two
hours
away.
You
know
that
has
that
pipeline
running
through
that
area
and
I.
Remember
that
pipeline
being
there.
You
know
as
a
kid
and
so
I
know.
E
The
pipeline
itself
has
been
there
since
at
least
the
early
90s,
if
probably
longer
before
then
so,.
A
And
then
from
our
planning
zoning
standpoint,
security
issues
is
that
how
do
we
usually
address
security
issues?.
E
I
would
say,
I
mean
we
could
probably
have
the
applicant.
Maybe
you
know
address
that
in
his
rebuttal,
but
you
know
part
of
that
could
be.
E
You
know,
cameras.
You
know,
you
know
fencing,
you
know
having
the
property
be
locked
and
gated
that
could
be.
You
know
things
that
could
be
addressed.
You
know,
as
a
security
precaution.
A
And
then
one
last
question
I
think
a
lot
of
conversations
tonight
about
traffic,
so
as
Planning
and
Zoning
Commissioners.
A
E
So
as
it
relates
to
traffic,
you
know
we
look
at
at
more.
You
rely
really
a
lot
on
achd
because
achd,
you
know,
has
you
know
the
the
traffic
counts
and
numbers,
and
so
with
achd.
You
know
they
have
what's
called
an
acceptable
level
of
service.
You
know
on
the
roadway
itself,
you
know,
and
so
they
determine
okay.
We
have,
you,
know
level
of
ease,
an
acceptable
level
of
service
and
they
look
at
the
number
of
trips
and
then
the
proposed
number
of
trips
that
this
is
to
be
generated.
E
You
know
so
the
you
know
the
PM
like
p.m.
Peak
hour
level,
service
for
Kingdom,
Hall
Road,
is,
is
better
than
level
service
e
and
the
acceptable
level
service.
You
know
for
a
two-lane
principal
arterial
is
690
vehicle
trips
per
day
and
So
based
on
you
know.
So,
basically
you
know
with
achd.
You
know
this
Falls
and
complies
with
their.
You
know
acceptable
level
of
traffic
count
during
that
PM
peak
hour.
D
Scott,
you
talked
about
the
the
light
situation
where
downward
facing.
How
far
is
this
from
the
prisons,
because
those
are
a
beacon
out
there
and
I
wouldn't
like?
Are
we
talking
like
we're,
adding
a
night
light
next
to
a
floodlight
or
or
kind
of
I'm?
Just
trying
to
gauge
idea
here
on
what
the
light
pollution
is,
if
it's,
if
it
even
is
going
to
add
to
what
those
three
prison
facilities
out
there
cause
because
I
know
I
see
those
I
just
I'm
just
trying
to
gauge
distances.
Sorry
so.
E
S
E
D
E
Vista
Avenue
is
about
right
here
and
probably
the
closest
point
between
the
prison.
You
know
one
corner
of
the
prison
to
the
Vista
Avenue,
with
the
intersection
of
Kimura
I
would
say
it's
about
probably
a
mile
to
mile
and
maybe
a
quarter
and
then
for
more
of
the
residents.
You
live
a
little
bit
further
south
they're,
probably
a
mile
and
a
half
to
probably
two
miles.
You
know
from
the
you
know
prison
as
the
crow
flies.
D
And
then
one
other
question
the
that
report-
those
given
to
us
from
emergent
about
the
that
slick,
spot
pepper
grass,
where
they
said
that
in
they
did
a
evaluation
of
the
area
back
in
2021
or
an
evaluation
was
done.
Do
we
know
is
that
do
we
know
if
that
was
the
Idaho
fishing
game?
Wildlife?
Was
that
or
was
it
who
did
that
March
2021?
D
Look
where
it
says
the
stable
seed
bank
needed
to
maintain
the
pepper
grass
is
not
present
and
project
activities
will
not
result
an
authorized
to
in
an
unauthorized,
take
of
slick
grass
slick,
spot,
pepper
grass.
That
is
a
say.
A
Some
questions
so
answers
the
questions,
any
more
questions
for
staff,
because
this
will
be
our
last
chance
to
ask
questions
to
staff.
Commissioner,
yes,.
N
E
I
yes,
I
ma'am
chair,
commissioner
wrestloff
I
I,
do
believe
that
so
obviously
you're
wanting
to
make
sure
that
the
trucks
themselves,
instead
of
being
like
a
double
you
just
have
one
single
trailer
I
think
that
could
be
a
you
know
a
condition
of
approval.
So
you
could
definitely
probably
you
know,
condition
that
condition
it
for
that.
E
A
But
the
there's
an
opportunity
for
people
to
appeal
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
That's.
A
We've
asked
a
lot
of
good
questions
and
I
think
we'll
go
ahead
and
ask
the
applicant
to
come
back
and
and
provide
us
with
a
rebuttal
and
then
we'll
ask
this
applicant
questions.
P
Yeah
Madam,
chair
and
Commissioners,
obviously
there's
you
know,
concerns
that
were
brought
up
and
a
lot
of
those
concerns
that
we
we
typically
mitigate
every
day,
and
we
have
other
sites
that
that
you
know
we
use
down
shielding
on
to
to
prevent
light
pollution,
we've
other
sites
that
we
obviously
make
sure
that
the
the
sound
is
is
kept
within
a
certain
decibel
range.
P
Typically,
our
our
equipment,
that's
out
there,
you
know,
operates
between
60
and
90
decibels,
Max
and
then
from
there.
You
know
existing
issues
with
the
with
the
traffic.
Obviously,
we've
taken
into
account
with
the
the
the
concerns
that
we've
heard,
as
well
as
the
the
traffic
studies
and
and
we
can
obviously
work
with
the
the
county
to
to
mitigate
those.
P
So
breitmark
has
no
issue
with
with
working
with
the
county
and
working
with
you
know
the
community
to
to
mitigate
all
these.
These
concerns.
A
Done:
okay,
we've
got
some
questions
so
who
wants
to
start
with
questions
Madam.
B
Chair
go
ahead.
I
was
wondering
if
you
can
talk
about
the
actual
trucks
themselves
that
will
be
doing
the
deliveries.
Are
they
going
to
be?
You
know
like
a
pickup
truck
with
a
canister
just
thrown
in
the
truck
bed.
Are
they
gonna
be
like
a
you
know,
actual
like
trailer
style
to
where
it
could
be
a
two?
You
know
a
double
trailer
single
trailer
sure.
P
Madam,
chair
and
and
commissioner
Exton,
these
these
trucks
are,
are
essentially
semi
trucks
that
have
a
a
a
vessel
in
the
back
of
the
semi
and
then
have
a
frame
around
that.
That
then
has
also
a
like
a
Conex
style
like
a
shipping
container
style
covering
on
it,
so
that
you
don't
see
you
know
this
big
vessel
and
and
and
I
should
probably
clarify
that
a
little
further.
P
These
vessels
then,
are
broken
into
smaller
vessels
so
that
there
there's
multiple
layers
to
to
try
to
protect
against
any
type
of
impact.
I'm
not
saying
it's
going
to
protect
it
100
and
the
one
gentleman
that
that
I
did
talk
to
at
the
the
neighborhood
meeting
about
the
the
truck
surviving
the
these
trailers
are
built
with
the
the
utmost.
You
know
femza
safety
standards
that
that
have
to
adhere
to
over-the-road
transport
every
day.
P
They're,
not
you
know
these
super
long
trailers
or
they're
not
over.
You
know
57
foot
50
foot,
but
they
are,
you
know,
semi
trucks.
They
are
larger
trucks
that
are
that
are
going
to
be
out
there.
D
Madam
sure,
commissioner,.
A
D
So
can
you
talk
about
the
fire
suppression
plan
that
you
would
have
out
there
if
there
were
like,
because
there's
a
concern
that
there'd
be
fire
problems
like
leakage
Sparks
that
could
cause
a
combustible?
You
talked
about
the
vehicle
protection,
but
at
this
site
fire
suppression
and
mitigation.
P
Sure
Madam
chair
and
commissioner
Scott,
the
the
fire
suppression-
that's
that's
utilized.
Typically
on
these
sites,
you
know,
can
be
a
combination
of
of
multiple
types
of
fire
suppression.
You
know
whether
it's
a
gas
type
of
fire
suppression,
a
I,
don't
think
we'd
use
anything
that
would
be
unadequate
to
what
you
typically
would
require
for
an
industrial
site
out
here,
but
the
the
systems
that
we
typically
use
do
they're
able
to
to
typically
get
these
large
fires
out
within
a
short
amount
of
time.
P
I
would
have
to
defer
to
our
engineering
team
on
any.
You
know
further
design
on
that.
I.
Don't
think
we've
you
know
looked
at
it
beyond
what
we
would
use
for.
You
know
the
trailer
systems
and
whatnot,
but
it's
everything
that
would
comply
with
the
the
femza.
D
So
you,
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
tell
us
if
it's
like
a
human
activated
system
or
an
automatic
system
that
detects
or
because
it's
not
going
to
be
occupied
all
the
time
and
then
also
during
the
transfers.
There's
concerns
of
like
it
said
when
you
hook
up
and
stuff
and
and
things
like
that,
it's
like
a
button
like
at
a
gas
station
or
is
it
like
a.
P
The
systems
that
are
in
place
are
typically
automatic
reactive,
with
the
way
that
the
the
the
concern
that
there
is
out
there
for
fire
I
would
probably
ask
for
a
redundant
system
from
our
engineering
team
to
to
be
in
place
so
that
you
know
you
would
have
a
system
that
that
could
react
to
a
situation
occurring.
P
You'd
also
have
a
system
there
that
that
any
type
of
operator
and
and
the
only
time
that
this
site
is
operating,
is
when
the
actual
truck
is
there,
so
otherwise
it's
just
valving
and
that's
inactive
when
the
truck's
not
there,
so
the
the
way
that
these
these
trucks
decant
they
have
multiple
redundant
systems
in
place
to
to
minimize
any
type
of
of
leak.
P
P
So
there
are
a
myriad
of
of
safety
mechanisms
in
place
to
prevent
and
I
mean
this-
is
these.
These
systems
have
been
evolutionary
for
years
now.
So
there's
there's
processes
in
place.
You
know
that
that
have
evolved
these
systems
to
make
sure
that
that
they
comply
and
and
exceed
these
the
safety
standards
that
are
required.
D
If
you
want
to
I
just
don't
know
if
I'm
gonna
ask
for
other
people's
questions
too,
but
can
you
talk?
One
of
the
concerns
was
the
training
and
inevitability
of
one
of
the
transfer
Personnel
doing
conducting
the
transfer
having
a
misstep?
Can
you
talk
what
the
mitigations
are
of
that?
If
there's
any
like,
is
it
just
a
standard
truck
driver
with
a
CDL
doing
this,
or
is
it
like
a
professional
that
has
gone
through
some
sort
of
certification,
Etc.
P
Commissioner
or
Madam
Secretary
Madam
Madam,
chair
I,
apologize
and
commissioner
Scott
these
drivers
that
we
we
bring
in
they
they're,
not
just
a
guy
with
a
CDL
they're,
guys
that
that
have
30
to
100
hours
of
of
minimum
training,
they're
brought
in
through
one
of
our
companies
that
that
that's
all
they
do
is
deal
with
the
natural
gas
transmission.
They
deal
with
the
natural
gas,
the
decanting
and
the
loading
they
deal
with.
P
You
know
the
the
safety
Protocols
of
working
around
the
pipelines
they
they
are
specialized
in
this
and
the
companies
that
we
work
with
they
go
through
monthly
training.
They
go
through
two
different
sets
of
safety
standards,
which
are
our
standards,
frightmark
standards
and
then
their
company
standards
as
well.
So
there's
an
extensive
amount
of
training
for
this
for
this.
This
process
that
we
do
we're
not
just
putting
a
a
guy
with
a
Class
A
out
there
to
to
drive
a
truck
and
a
trailer.
D
Thank
you,
are
you,
are
you
storing
gases
out
there,
or
is
it
going
straight
into
pipe
and
moving
out
and
if
so,
if
you
are
starting,
how
much
are
we
talking.
P
P
This
gas
when
it
goes
out
there,
it
goes
to
the
pipeline
and
then
it
goes
to
to
essentially
to
wherever
it's
going,
but
the
only
storage
that
would
be
on
site
at
that
time
is
the
truck
itself
and
we're
not
going
to
be
just
randomly
parking
trucks
out
there.
The
the
trucks
that
are
allocated
to
this
project
are
in
motion
to
each
one
of
the
project
sites,
so
they're
they're,
always
cycling.
D
And
then
is
the
security
has
been
a
concern
for
for
some
of
the
audience,
as
well
as
some
of
the
Commissioners.
D
Has
security
ever
been
a
concern
at
the
site
or
does
or
is,
can
security
potentially
going
to
be
a
concern
with
potential
tampering?
Is
that
something
that
historically
you've
seen
at
your
sites,
or
this
one
or
in
the
future.
P
Madam
chair,
commissioner
Scott,
the
the
security
is
something
we
take
very
seriously
just
because
of
the
the
federal
regulations
that
we
have
to
adhere
to.
So
the
fences
you
know
surround
the
site
as
discussed
earlier,
it's
a
key
card
system
to
get
in
now
the
site.
That's
the
only
way
you
can
get
access
to
the
site,
the
decanting
skids,
the
equipment
there
is
all
locked
out
by
key
card.
There's
a
hundred
percent
coverage
of
the
site
with
cameras.
You
know
daily
operating
hours.
P
You
know
it's,
it's
probably
the
most
secure
site
that
that
you
know
beyond
anything
that
that's
out
there
prison
wise
that
would
be
out
there.
D
Okay
and
then
where'd
it
go.
Some
of
the
concerns.
Were
the
vehicles
exiting
the
lights,
posing
a
problem.
Do
you
have
any
thoughts
on
mitigating
that
I
know
you
have
the
on-site
lights,
but
then
also
I'm,
looking
at
specifically
like
a
solid
fencing
system
to
keep,
rather
than
like
just
using
chain
link
or
something
like
that
or
sliding
the
chain
link
to
try
and
mitigate
lights,
as
they
turn
around
in
that
that
roundabout
site
that
you're
you're
trying
to
build.
H
P
Madam
chair,
commissioner
Scott,
typically
what
we
do
up
there.
You
know,
especially
on
sites
that
are
further
in
the
northern
regions,
we'll
do
a
a
solid
fence
as
opposed
to
a
chain
link
fence
with
any
type
of
sliding.
Just
because
it
also,
you
know,
assists
with
our
maintenance
that
you
know
you're,
not
replacing
all
the
slats.
H
P
Don't
have
to
worry
about.
You
know
animals
getting
through
the
and
breaking
off
the
slats.
We
we've
done.
Everything
from
you
know
like
the
the
plastic
fencing
with
chain
link
behind
it
or
I
mean
some
pretty
solid,
serious
fences
before
we
have
some
up
in
South
Dakota
that
that
iron,
like
big
wrought
iron
fences,
so.
D
Yeah
and
then
one
last
question:
what
does
what
is
limiting?
So
you
said
like
a
handful
of
five
to
ten
trucks.
What
is
limiting
trucks
do
from
a
business
standpoint
here
for
you
if
we
were
to
say
only
five
trucks.
What
is
that?
Does
that
I'm
trying
to
look
at
the
viability
of
where,
because
I
know,
there's
some
that
might
be
leaning
towards
that
or
thinking
about
trying
to
find
a
middle
ground
here?
D
What
is
what
is
like
the
minimum
viable
that
is
going
to
not
only
keep
you
make
it
worth
it,
but
also
supports
what
you're
trying
to
do
here.
P
Madam
chair,
commissioner
Scott,
our
our
well
I
guess
this
can
also
curb
the
the
concerns
over
us
putting
digesters
out
there
as
well.
You
know
this.
The
the
gas
that's
produced
on
each
one
of
these
projects
is
not
a
substantial
amount
of
gas
and
when
I
say
that
it's
it's
these,
the
manure
that's
pumped
into
these
digesters
that
digester
is
not
operating
at
anywhere
close
to
the
volume
just
because
the
manure
is
not
there
and
I.
P
P
A
lot
of
manure-
and
you
know
the
the
volume
of
this
projects
you
know
from
from
a
business
case,
truly
hasn't
been
anywhere
substantially
close
to
what
the
other
projects
that
we've
worked
with
happen,
and
in
in
saying
that
there's
you
know
this
handful
of
trucks,
that'll,
be
you
know
going
out
there
every
day
we
don't
see
the
where
it
could
be
more
than
you
know,
15
trucks
ever
in
the
lifetime
of
the
project.
P
It's
a
it's,
the
the
we
know
we're
optimally
where
that
those
those
digesters
are
are
operating
and
those
digesters
are
only
operating
at
the
farm
sites.
We're
not
going
to
truck
manure
across
the
county
to
get
them
to
a
another
digester
site
or
even
you
know,
build
digester
sites
off-site
at
any
of
these
places.
It
just
doesn't
in
the
process
of
the
whole
thing.
It
doesn't
make
sense,
so
the
only
reason
we're
Trucking
it
so
far
is,
is
you
know
because,
or
the
the
gas
so
far
is
because
of
you
know
we
wanted
to.
P
You
know:
work
with
Williams
Pipeline
and
the
existing
pipeline.
That's
been
there,
for
you,
know,
20
plus
years,
and
and
also
try
to
keep
it
to
where
somewhere,
that
that
they
were
comfortable
with
the
tap
site
being
and
the
tap
site.
I
mean
they
do
all
over
town.
You
know
all
these
other
industrial
facilities
have,
you
know
different
Taps
to
where
they
can
pull
gas
off
of
the
pipeline
and
inject
gas
back
to
the
pipeline.
There's
other
projects
that
are
like
this.
You
know
that
are
under
development
in
this
area.
P
So
it's
not
something
that
that
that
to
the
pipeline
company.
That's
that's
inherently
new.
It's
a
it's
something!
That's
been
been
going
on
for
quite
a
while.
A
P
Chair
no
ma'am,
we
have
not
but
like
I
said
we're,
you
know
if,
if
there's
a
a
specified
fencing
that
that
that
you
all
prefer-
or
that
is
part
of
the
conditional
use,
we're
we're
more
than
willing
to
do
so.
P
Know
it's
I,
don't
care,
it's
something
that
at
our
other
sites,
it's
it's
typically
24
hours,
and
you
know
if
there's
a
limitation
to
that.
You
know.
Obviously
you
know
if
they're
there
are
working
hours
imposed,
then
then,
obviously
that's
going
to
increase
our
truck
traffic
during
the
day.
So
we
we
operate
a
lot
of
these
sites.
You
know
during
the
nighttime
hours,
because
it's
it's
taking
the
traffic
off
the
road
during
the
daytime
hours.
P
So
it's
it's
I!
Guess
it's
kind
of
six
and
one
half
dozen,
the
other.
If
you're
looking
at
the
the
you
know
24-hour
operation,
we
have
no
problem
doing
that.
It's
just
something
that
we
try
to
do
to
to
try
to
keep
that
truck
traffic
down.
A
And
then
the
additional
requirement
to
potentially
have
a
professional
take
a
look
at
the
site
to
make
sure
that
there's
no
endangered
grasses.
There
is
pretty
typical
thing
that
we
see
in
this
area.
P
Yeah
Madam
chair
we
so
I
was
looking
back
at
the
notes
after
I'd,
given
my
my
initial
testimony
and
we
had
Merchant
our
group
who
submitted
the
the
report,
we
had
them
all
doing
on-site
evaluation,
we'll
look
over
the
site.
We
had
some
other
groups
from
the
pipeline
group
out
there
as
well.
They
concluded
that
the
the
environment
actually
wasn't
suitable
in
that
area
and
based
on
previous
reports,
but
if,
if
there's
additional
studies
required
we're
also
more
than
happy
to
do
so,.
A
Thank
you
what
this
three
Acre
Site
this
is
the
future
site
for
the
turnaround.
What's
there
now,
has
it
been
Disturbed?
Has
it
been,
you
know,
move
anything
moved
around.
P
Yes,
ma'am
Madam,
chair
I
believe
that
there
was
at
one
point,
a
borrow
area
that
was
in
that
site,
so
there
there
had
been
previous
impacts
to
the
side
and
then
also
Williams
says
just
put
in
just
to
the
south
of
that
there's
a
disturbance
that
was
there
by
Williams
pipeline
to
put
in
their
integrity
management,
their
anode
fields
and
and
whatnot
for
the
pipeline
itself.
A
Okay
and
then
you've
obviously
read
the
conditions
and
the
condition
1B
deals
with
the
fire,
State
Fire
Marshal,
meaning
they're,
going
to
have
to
get
all
your
fire
drawings
and
then
14
condition.
14
and
15
deal
with
lighting
the
lighting
plan.
That
has
to
be
submitted,
and
the
last
question
is
a
well
will
there
be
any
Wells
I
think
I
might
have
asked
it,
but
I'm
going
to
ask
it
again.
A
H
C
You,
the
gases,
that's
being
injected,
it's
been
it's
odorized,
just
like
any
other
natural
gas.
So
if
there's
a
leak,
it
can
be
detected.
Madam.
P
Chair
and
commissioner
Wickstrom,
yes,
sir,
it's
it's
injected
and
odorized
to
to
Williams
pipeline
standard
requirement.
So
whatever
whatever
scent.
That's,
that's
in
the
that
that's
what's
required.
Okay,.
C
And
then
last
one
at
some
point:
if
Kino
moral
Road
does
become
an
expressway,
are
you
in
a
position
with
the
current
owner
to
be
able
to
construct
an
alternate
access
going
into
Pleasant
Valley
Road
to
the
to
the
West.
P
Madam
chair
and
commissioner
Wickstrom
we've
We've
addressed
this
with
the
current
owner,
the
we
we
have
his
approval
to
to
shift
the
site,
as
Williams
does
with
their
easement.
P
However,
the
site
was
up
for
sale,
we're
not
sure
if
it
sold
or
not
and
part
of
the
the
agreement
conveys
over
to
the
new
owner,
so
we
have
to
have
those
those
further
conversations
with
them,
concurrently
with
Williams,
obviously
as
well.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
A
G
Chair,
sorry,
just
there's
a
scheduled
Wi-Fi
shutdown
at
the
courthouse
at
9
00
pm
tonight
we
have
attached
all
of
our
computers
directly
to
ethernet,
I,
believe
and
again
I'm.
The
least
techy
guy
here
Luke
can
probably
come
correct
me
if
I'm
getting
all
this
wrong.
However,
if
anybody's
operating
off
of
Wi-Fi
just
know
that
that
will
be
down
after
nine
o'clock-
and
we
might
see
these
screens
go
away
at
nine
o'clock,
so
just
a
heads
up,
okay,.
H
A
Are
we
allowed
to
say
anymore,
you
are
not
so
that's.
The
public
hearing
has
a
has
a
process,
and
so
that's
we're
at
the
point
where
the
public
hearing
is
closed.
A
You
know
I'm,
sorry,
the
public
hearing
is
is
closed
and
and
it'll
be
an
opportunity.
Now
now
what
happens?
Is
that
I
look
to
one
of
the
Commissioners
to
approve
the
application,
deny
the
application
or
or
table
the
application
to
the
next
meeting?
D
So,
looking
at
what
what
is
being
developed
here,
the
first
and
foremost
I
do
believe
they,
the
overarching
process
behind
what
they
do
taking
it
from
the
manure,
is
very
environmentally
sound.
It's
very
much
something
that
can
be
beneficial
from
a
point
of
view
of
the
environment.
D
I
do
like
that
they
are
not
storing
there,
which
is
going
to
be.
That
was
a
big
thing
for
me.
I
was
concerned
about
them,
storing
out
there
and,
if
they're,
just
going
straight
into
a
pipeline
that
exists,
then
there's
already
gas
that
is
already
moving
through
the
pipeline.
That
is
something
that
I
see
no
change
there.
Adding
the
ability
to
hook
in
is
something
that
I
see
is
a
relatively
low
risk,
no
different
than
when
we
see
them
hook
into
gas
in
gasoline
at
a
gas
station
every
day.
D
I
do
believe
that
they
have
strong
fire
suppression
in
place.
I
do
believe
they
have
strong
Security
in
place,
so
I
think
a
lot
of
those
concerns
were
addressed.
The
noise
out
there.
It
can't
be
louder
than
the
ranges
that
already
exist
out
there
I
mean
the
decibel
levels
that
they
discussed
are
lower
than
that
of
certainly
Small
Arms
fire,
but
definitely
the
orchard
training
area.
D
The
light
mitigation
I
think
that
the
the
plan
for
light
mitigation
with
the
shielding
with
the
solid
with
solid
fencing,
could
prevent
the
the
lights
from
being
more
of
a
problem
than
the
prisons
out
there
specifically
and
then,
if,
frankly,
if
achd
has
no
issue
with
the
traffic
and
they
having
to
come
back
with
no
concerns
of
the
traffic
and
they're
the
experts
out
on
on
ground
there,
when
they
do
the
studies
of
how
much
traffic
moves
through
I,
don't
necessarily
see
how
10
to
15
additional
or
five
to
ten
additional
trucks
is
going
to
be
a
huge
impact.
D
Of
course
it
is
small
impact,
but
knowing
full
well
that
at
any
given
day,
the
range
provides
huge
amounts
of
traffic
out
there
in
bursts.
I,
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
any
different
than
what
the
Gown
field
or
the
logistics
supporting
the
prison
system
already
has
out
there.
So
those
are
just
my
my
thoughts
as
to
why
I,
just
don't
think
the
impact
is
as
great
as
is
being
presented.
It's
more.
C
I'm
kind
of
on
the
fence
about
someone
on
the
fence
with
this,
but
to
get
the
conversation
started,
I
think
that
more
can
be
done
by
the
applicant
to
mitigate
sound
and
light
I
mean
if
trucks
are
going
to
be
pulling
in
there
at
night.
I
think
they
could
I,
don't
know
if
a
solid
fence
is
going
to
be
adequate.
That
I'd
like
to
see
some
berms
or
something
a
little
more
substantial
than
a
fence.
C
While
it's
offloading
it's
going
to
be
it's
a
noise
that
people
are
going
to
hear
you're,
going
to
notice
that
it
said
in
the
original
report
that
it
would
just
be
daytime
deliveries.
But
now
it's
you
know:
24
7.,
I
I
think
that
it's
it's
as
far
as
a
place
for
this
to
go
I
think
it's
probably
a
good
place.
As
far
as
it's
out
pretty
far
away
from
most
things
as
far
as
the
location,
it's
60
miles
from
the
the
digester.
C
So
it's
not
it's
not
that
bad
and
again
it's
country
roads
where
they're
going
down
I
do
have
concerns
about
the
traffic.
I
can
imagine
a
truck
pulling
out
onto
a
kinomora
Road
and
not
being
able
to
accelerate
as
fast
as
the
cars
that
are
out
there
and
and
I
can
understand
that
a
big
concern
that
that
would
be-
and
hopefully
if
it
gets
the
point
that
you
know
more
roads,
developed
they'll
have
to
access
it
from
Pleasant
Valley
again
I'm
on
the
fence.
C
I
wanted
to
just
see
if
there's
just
get
the
conversation
going
on
this
I,
don't
know
if
I'm
going
to
vote
for
it
or
not,
but
I
wanted
to
at
least
talk
about
it.
There's
lots
of
good
things.
I,
like,
as
you
mentioned,
just
environmentally
just
to
see
the
stuff
being
used
that
way
to
add
to
the
gas
system,
but
again,
there's
there's
safety
concerns,
I
have
and
just
noise
and
light.
C
C
It'll
it'll
travel
quite
well
that
there
are
things
that
can
be
done.
That
I
think
we
can
either
condition
that
you
know
either
a
condition.
C
Putting
a
solid
fence
and
I
would
like
to
even
see
a
berm
and
say
on
the
south
side
of
the
and
the
maybe
the
East
Side
to
to
try
to
contain
the
noise
of
trucks
and
Light,
but
otherwise
it
I
I
was
first
going
through
this
I
didn't
see
it
as
anything
controversial,
but
obviously
some
big
concerns
have
been
brought
up
and
I'm,
not
that
familiar
with
that
area.
But
apparently
I
can
see
a
problem
where
big
trucks
coin
on
the
road
could
cause
quite
a
bit
of
Havoc
out
there.
So.
T
B
Yeah
so,
first
of
all,
I
do
want
to
start
by
saying
you
I
do
appreciate
all
of
you
for
showing
up,
especially
the
ones
that
were
kind
of
on
the
other
side
of
Victory
or
a
Vista
that
didn't
get
the
mailing
radius.
You
know
and
how
proactive
you
all
have
been
about
saying
you
know
in
the
loop
with
this
project
and
showing
up
here
in
person,
and
all
of
your
concerns
have
definitely
kind
of
factored
a
lot
into
how
I
feel
about
this
project.
B
B
If
it
was
restricted
to
daylight
hours
rather
than
24
7
for
the
deliveries,
even
though
I
do
know,
as
the
applicant
said,
you
know,
there
is
that
Dynamic
and
double-edged
sword
there.
With
that
restriction,
you
know,
but
again,
I
feel
like.
Traditionally
we
do
see
a
lot
of
businesses
or
commercial
things
out
in
these
areas
that
operate
kind
of
within
that
parameter
of
daylight
or
very
specific
hours.
I
think
the
24
7
is
very
unique,
at
least
in
my
experience
here
on
this
Commission
I'd
be
hesitant
to
throw
out
a
number.
B
B
I
do
think
that
there
could
be
more
done
for
fencing.
You
know
as
a
condition
of
approval.
There
is
nothing
stated
that
I
saw
about
requiring
a
solid
fencing
to
help
mitigate
light
at
all.
So
I
do
think
if
this
does
go
towards
approval,
adding
a
condition
there
to
help
ensure,
for
you
know,
for
fact,
that
there
would
be,
even
though
it
would
likely,
and
at
least
in
the
way,
I'm
thinking
of
it
potentially
be
during
the
day.
I
still
think
that
would
be.
B
You
know
an
additional
thing
that
you
know
would
be
beneficial
for
this
project
in
general
to
help
with
the
light
pollution.
You
know
the
traffic
concerns
I
do
totally
get
that,
especially
in
you
know
more
of
those
rural
areas.
You
know
you
just
kind
of
have
sometimes
gut
it.
You
know
I
drive
from
Eagle
all
the
way
out
to
Nampa
pretty
frequently
you
know
and
I
take
Chinden
and
you
know
turn
on
to
sometimes
11th
which,
as
you
know,
doesn't
even
have
a
turn
lane.
So
sometimes
it's
just.
B
B
B
B
You
know,
since
it
seems
like
a
lot
of
these,
concerns
are
more
based
on
the
whole
project.
Not
you
know
a
specific
aspect
of
the
project.
If
that
makes
sense,
not
saying
that
I,
don't
think
communication
should
be
happening,
but
I
also
don't
necessarily
know
if
it
would
be
something
that
would
it
would
be
a
complete.
You
know,
attitude
shift
per
se
from
either
the
community
or
the
applicant,
so
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
feeling
right
now.
A
We've
got,
commissioner,
like
my
brain's,
not
working
that's
low.
N
Or
slot
sorry,
it's
okay!
Thank
you,
madam
chairman.
You
know
I
kind
of
agree
with
commissioner
Exton
I'm
I'm
a
little
torn
right
now.
I
do
know
that
five
to
ten
or
more
trucks
per
day,
even
if
it's
a
24-hour
Day
within
us,
you
know
a
certain
area.
That
is
a
lot
of
noise.
That's
a
lot
of
traffic,
and
that
does
really
concern
me.
N
The
other
issue
is,
is
that
I
would
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
it
was
only
a
single
load
truck,
not
a
double
load
truck
that
is
very
common
in
in
a
lot
of
trucking,
Industries
and
I.
Maybe
should
have
asked
the
applicant,
but
I
just
thought
about
that.
Right
now,
I
do
appreciate
the
fact
that
they
are
not
storing
gas
on
site.
N
They
do
have
a
plan,
but
I
am
really
concerned
about
a
lot
of
the
noise
and
traffic
issue
as
as
well
and
comparatively
speaking
to
a
range
I
think
that
this
truck
noise
is
louder
than
a
range,
in
my
personal
opinion,
so
I
am
also
very
torn
I.
Do
think
that
maybe
we
could
table
this
for
more
Community
communication
between
the
applicant
and
the
neighbors,
who
didn't
have
the
opportunity
to
express
themselves
to
to
this
applicant
and
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
sitting
right
now.
A
Well,
thank
you
and
I
appreciate
everybody's
opinions
and
I
appreciate
all
the
everybody
that
came
tonight
and
I
can
appreciate
that
that
area
has
changed
a
lot.
In
the
last
10
years,
I
I
grew
up
in
Kuna
and
my
grandmother
lived
down.
Cloverdale
Road
south
of
kinomura
road,
so
I
drove
that
road.
A
lot
growing
up
and
I've
driven
it
recently,
because
I
drive
to
Twin
Falls
quite
a
bit
and
I
take
the
blacks,
Creek
exit
to
get
there
so
I'm
very
familiar
with
all
the
changes
that
are
going
on
and
I.
A
My
heart
goes
out
to
the
people
that
have
died
at
the
corner
of
Cloverdale
and
kunamora,
and
the
corner
are
Pleasant
Valley
Valley,
kinomori
I
mean
people
have
died
out
there
over
the
last
40
50
years,
and
it
is
sad
so
I
can
appreciate
that
the
character
of
that
area
has
changed
significantly
when
I
drive,
it
I
see
a
subdivision.
That
is
one
lot
subdivisions.
You
know,
I
see
the
all
the
stuff
that's
going
on
at
Falcon,
Ridge
or
Falcon
Crest
Golf,
Course,
multi-family
and
development
I
see
the
industrial
work.
A
That's
going
on
at
the
csb
Packer
I
see
the
meta
site,
which
is
a
huge
site,
that's
going
to
have
security
issues
and
lights,
and
then
the
prison's
been
there
for
a
really
long
time
with
its
light
issue
and
it's
in
its
other
issues.
So
this
is
in.
In
my
opinion,
this
is
a
pretty
minor
change
in
use
as
I
compare
it
to
the
beef
packing
plant
as
I.
Compare
it
to
the
prison
as
I.
A
Compare
it
to
the
other
things
that
are
along
that
road
and
kinomora
is
slated
to
be
a
big
road
with
a
lot
of
traffic
and
I.
Don't
know
how
many
trucks
go
down.
Kinomora
Road
past
this
neighborhood
to
get
to
the
beef
packing
plant
on
on
kinomora
road
I
mean
they.
They
run
a
lot
of,
they
run
24
7
and
they
have
a
lot
of
trucks
when
I
drive,
I
meet
several
trucks
on
the
road,
so
I
can't
imagine
five
more
being
that
different
from
what
is
already
happening
along
that
load.
A
Road,
not
that
I
can't
totally
appreciate
how
how
hard
it
is
to
watch
the
character
of
your
neighborhood
change
so
and
I've
got
that
happening
at
my
house.
If
you've
been
to
any
of
these
meetings,
I've
had
my
house
be
part
of
things
that
have
happened
around
it.
So
I
I
can
appreciate
that
the
issues
that
were
brought
up
were
noise
pollution.
One
of
our
finding
or
our
requirements
number
19
requires
that
this.
This.
A
Meet
all
the
Ada
County
noise
requirements,
so
that's
part
of
the
the
findings
it's
number
19.
The
light
pollution
is
is
addressed
in
number
14
and
15..
It's
going
to
comply
with
all
the
Ada
County
Light
pollution
issues,
the
leaks
and
the
fire
and
the
safety
issues
which
are
real
concerns.
You
know
this
pipeline
has
been
here
for
a
really
long
time.
This
company
has
been
operating
for
a
really
long
time.
A
Those
safety
issues
are
really
kind
of
outside
of
what
we
would
do
in
terms
of
evaluating
the
company's
Effectiveness
to
provide
safe
operations.
They've
got
OSHA.
They've
got
a
bunch
of
other
regulatory
people
that
do
that.
So
I
kind
of
think.
That's
beyond
our
our
scope.
A
Unless
it's
something
that's
that's
different
I
feel
like
the
plants
has
been
addressed,
though
slick
glass,
paper,
glass,
I,
can't
say
it
right,
yeah,
because
what
I
learned
is
being
on
this
commission
is
that
one
of
the
things
that
they
look
at
is
if
the
plant
is.
A
A
So
you
know
you
don't
need
to
do
a
study,
and
so
that's
what
I've
heard
in
other
times
and
I
don't
know
if
it
applies
here,
but
that's
my
prior
experiences
and
the
traffic
issues
and
the
traffic
concerns
are
really
achds
they're
the
experts
on
that
we
don't
get
to
second
guess
what
achd
thinks
and
initially
I
was
wanting
to
limit
the
hours
of
operations
and
the
and
the
number
of
trucks,
but
as
I,
think
about
the
number
of
trucks
that
are
going
down
the
road
one
more
mile
or
two
more
miles
to
the
to
everything
else.
A
That's
on
that
road,
it's
just
tiny
and
so
I
would
like
to
add
a
condition
for
a
fencing,
a
fencing,
that's
approved,
that's
approved
by
the
staff,
and
so
let
the
staff
work
with
the
applicant
to
come
up
with
a
fencing,
appropriate
fencing.
G
Just
as
a
point
of
order,
I
think
the
first
and
secondary
would
have
to
accept
the
condition.
A
Yeah
yeah
and
I'm
saying
that
that
would
be
one
of
the
things
that
I
I
would
like
to
see
done.
I'm,
not
because
I
can't
do
it,
so
the
people
doing
the
Motions
would
have
to
agree
to
change
their
emotions
that
their
required
Amendment.
A
G
Amend
your
motion
to
reflect.
If
again
you
agreed
to
it,
you
would
amend
your
motion
to
accept
that
as
a
condition
of
approval,
and
then
commissioner
Wickstrom
would
have
to
agree
to
second
that
as
well,
and
then
that
would
be
the
new
motion
before
the
commission
to
vote
upon.
A
And
then
the
other
thing
is
this:
the
fire
safety.
You
know
that
which
required
the
the
State
Fire
Marshal
is
going
to
have
to
buy
off
on.
You
know,
going
to
have
to
approve
it,
so
I
feel,
like
that's
a
condition.
That's
already
included
and
I
I.
Think
that
that's
all
the
notes
I
have
so
my
my
position
is
I.
I
feel
like
the
project
could
be
approved.
The
way
it
is
I
would
like
to
see
if
people
agreed
and
an
additional
condition
added
for
the
fencing
to
be
approved
by
the
staff.
A
So
my
to
clarify-
sometimes
we
just
say
you
know
appropriate
fencing
to
reduce
noise
and
and
light
to
be
approved.
You
know
to
be
approved
by
the
staff.
I
see
okay,
and
so
we
don't
like
tell
them
exactly
because
I
don't
know
exactly
what's
going
to
be
best
for
that
site.
Maybe
they
want
Iron,
so
it
doesn't
burn.
Maybe
they
want
plastic.
You
know
they
probably
don't
want
plastic,
but
they
want
wood.
They're.
A
Because
there's
there's
County
fencing,
that's
approved
for
those
areas,
and
so
so
that's
what
I
would
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
leaning,
so
the
people
that
are
had
the
Motions
first
get
to
decide.
If.
A
B
Also
I'm,
trying
to
I
kind
of
agree
with
you
on
the
the
berm
Landscaping
side
of
things.
I
also
feel
like
based
off
of
all
the
images
we
saw.
Having
you
know
a
landscaped
berm
or
something
like
that,
would
look
a
little
bit
more
out
of
character
than
you
know.
Obviously,
a
fence
is
going
to
look
out.
X
A
I
would
like
to
see
offense
that
the
staff
you.
A
A
A
D
Moved
to
amend
my
original
motion
there.
H
D
Go
move
to
I'm
in
my
original
motion
to
include
that
the
staff
works
with
the
the
applicant
man
is
slate
works
with
the
applicant
to
establish
appropriate
fencing
that
covers
light
and
sound
mitigation.
A
Okay
and
just
for
clarification
that
would
be
condition
number
21.,
perfect.
It's
been
moved
and
seconded
that
this
motion
be
approved
with
adding
a
condition
21
for
providing
adequate.
You
know
providing
fencing
for
sound
and
light
mitigation,
any
other
further
discussions.
L
A
N
A
A
Any
comments
I
thought
they
were
well
done.
So
thank
you
for
doing
those
all
those
in
favor
say
aye.
G
G
All
right,
thank
you,
Commissioners
good
job,
on
a
tricky
vote
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
too.
That
certainly
was
a
complication.
I
didn't
see
happening
at
the
beginning
of
the
year,
so
excellent
job
working
through
that
and
congrats
to
the
interim
chair
and
vice
chair.
So
now
you
serve
well
over
the
next
60
days.
G
So
in
terms
of
the
board
hearing
walk
through
that
real
quick,
it
was
a
relatively
quick
meeting.
45
minutes
we
had
our
new
commissioner
daily
there
and
commissioner
Davidson
was
chairing.
Commissioner
Beck
is
on
vacation,
so
we
only
had
two
Commissioners,
but
we
got
got
business
done.
G
So
first
item
was
the
preliminary
flat
and
vacation
of
plot
notes
that
you
all
saw
on
McDermott
and
the
Victory
I
believe
they
are
still
working
with
Central
six
Health
on
some
septic
related
stuff
and
so
they've
tabled
that
to
the
April
12th
meeting
variants
out
in
the
wild
horse.
Lane
area
was
tabled,
property
owners
are
trying
to
work
something
out
that,
hopefully,
will
result
in
not
needing
a
variance
most
likely
a
property
boundary
adjustment.
G
We
had
a
termination
of
a
development
agreement
associated
with
an
old
zone,
change,
conditional
zone
change
and
one-time
development
one-time
division.
Sorry
it
isn't
that
late,
but
it
feels
like
five,
though
so
the
development
agreement,
which
was
great
because
we
had
to
reopen
the
ordinance
and
republish
it
due
to
a
scrivener's
error.
G
That's
a
word
that
planners
love,
because
it's
something
that
usually
bugs
us
considerably,
because
it's
some
minor
little
description
and
or
kind
of
typo
in
the
property
description
that
doesn't
allow
closure
for
a
zone
change
sounds
minor,
but
it
really
messes
up
your
GIS
maps
when
you
try
to
when
you
run
that
issue,
we
just
recently
discovered
it.
So
we
sent
that
back
to
the
board
and
they
they
fixed
that
problem.
G
We
had
a
preliminary
plot
for
subdivision
and
private
or
subdivision
on
Columbia
Road.
This
was
Tim
akazaka.
If
I
think
you
saw
him
about
a
month
or
two
ago,
and
he
had
been
through
once
before
and
then
had
to
come
through
again
to
kind
of
work
through
achg
stuff
sounds
like
we
had
another
gentleman
in
the
same
boat
tonight
that
was
approved
by
the
board.
So
he's
now
preparing
to
submit
his
final
plot,
so
he's
been
through
a
long
journey
on
that
one,
but
it
was
approved.
G
We
had
a
variance
for
a
detached
accessory
structure
off
of
Elgato
Lane.
A
gentleman
wanted
to
build
something:
that's
35
feet
tall,
which
far
exceeds
what
we
normally
allow
for
accessory
structures.
However,
after
a
lot
of
conversation
with
the
board
and
explaining
kind
of
the
context
of
the
area
and
the
context
of
the
site,
they
stated
they're
inclined
to
approve
it,
but
they
tabled
it
to
get
more
information
about
the
heights
of
other
structures
in
the
area.
G
And
then,
finally,
we
had
a
preliminary
plant
and
a
private
road
for
a
three
lot
subdivision
off
of
black
cat
Road
This
was
for
muscle,
construction,
etchison,
Estates,
I,
believe
I.
Think
you
saw
that
one
two
or
three
months
ago
and
that
was
recommended
for
approval.
So
with
that
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
G
Oh
I
hope
you
built
it
legally,
no
I'm
kidding
just
don't
pull
any
more
permits
ever
on
your
property.
You
should
be
fine.
Yes,
it
was.
It
was
pretty
quick
night.
February
is
going
to
be
big
for
them
and
kind
of
busy
for
you
guys
too,
but
January
went
pretty
fast.
So.
G
Okay,
if
yeah,
if
you
can
hopefully
open
that
up
and
send
it
to
either
myself
or
Brent,.
Z
A
G
G
Just
that
and
I
apologize,
I
didn't
know.
I
got
it's
just
we
just
sent
commissioner
Daley
through
public
hearing
training,
and
our
legal
team
was
like
major
No-No,
don't
be
looking
on
your
phone
or
on
the
Internet
during
a
hearing,
because
if
you
find
information
that
people
haven't
seen
in
the
audience
or
staff
themselves,
we
you
know
we
have
to
figure
out
how
to
get
that
into
the
record
and
it
gets
complicated.
G
Yeah-
and
you
know
it's
funny
like
recently-
we
had
a
gentleman
I
think
Mr
Keith
Hill,
with
dude
DeWalt,
who
was
opposing
that
he
played
like
an
audio
sound
off
of
his
cell
phone
and
we
never
got
the
file
and
so
legal's
been
all
over
me
to
like.
Don't
ever
let
that
happen
again.
You've
got
to
go,
get
that
sound
file
for
the
record.
So
it's
all
this
weird
things
that
you
wouldn't
think
would
be
like
a
big
issue
for
the
record.
G
G
It
yeah
there's
another
thing:
I
know
I've
heard
on
occasion
some
Commissioners
say:
hey
I,
drove
by
the
site
and
checked
it
out.
Our
code
doesn't
really
basically
state
law,
says
you're
not
supposed
to
do
that,
because
there
have
been
cases
where
Commissioners
have
made
that
claim
and
made
a
decision
based
on
that
visit
and
then
the
basically
the
the
judge
decided
to
toss
out
the
case,
because
there
was
no
way
to
verify
the
commissioner
had
gone
to
the
right
site.
So
you
could
say
I've
driven
by
this
site.
G
G
If,
if
you,
if
you
do
that-
and
you
say
hey,
we
should
approve
this
based
on
my
visit
to
that
site.
It
kind
of
again
enters
something
weird
under
the
record
that
it
can
be
difficult
to
verify
down
the
road
via
appeal
or
judicial
review.
So
but.
G
That's
the
community
we
live
in
and
you
know
you
can
do
that,
but
you
shouldn't
say:
I
intentionally,
drove
to
the
site
to
check
it
out
and
make
sure
it
was
going
to
work
if
you,
but
if
you,
if
you
happen
to
know
I
mean
and
some
of
our
communities
around
here
are
so
small,
you
know,
if
you,
you
can't
step
out
your
front
door
without
seeing
half
the
properties
in
the
community,
I
mean
that's
just
the
again
the
community
we
live
in,
so
no
big
deal
but
yeah,
try
to
not
say,
I
took
a
site
visit
and
based
on
that
I
think
this
is
gonna
work
or
not
work.