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A
2023-
and
this
is
the
time
and
place
for
the
Ada,
County,
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission
meeting-
we
extend
our
welcome
to
those
who
are
here
in
person
with
us
as
well
as
any
of
them
that
may
be
joining
online,
we'll
begin
with
a
role
called
the
Commissioners
first,
we
will
excuse
commissioner
Exton
and
commissioner
ratsloff,
who
are
not
able
to
be
here
with
us
today.
Commissioner
blitman
Mr
Wickstrom
Mr
Scott
here,
commissioner
Coulson
here.
B
A
I
am
commissioner,
Birch
and
I
will
be
conducting
the
meeting
this
evening
just
by
way
of
guidance,
and
we
have
a
fair
number
of
people
here.
So
the
applicant,
when
we
have
each
project
will
be
given
15
minutes
to
speak.
Staff
will
also
speak
after
the
applicant
speaks.
There
will
be
an
opportunity
for
members
of
the
public
to
speak.
They
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes
each
and
thereafter
the
applicant
will
have
an
opportunity
for
rebuttal.
A
C
Mr
chairman
I,
remember
that
we
table
application:
two
zero
and
two
three:
zero
one:
zero:
six:
zero
z,
c
d,
a
s
b,
a
c
p
r
to
the
October
12th
2023
meeting
motion.
A
D
E
D
The
plan
Community
implementation
plan
will
include
project
details
regarding
financing
phasing
public
facilities,
Transportation
habitat
management
and
Community
design.
The
Zone
zoning
ordinance
text
Amendment
will
adopt
a
zoning
ordinance
specific
to
the
planned
community.
The
zoning
ordinance
map
Amendment
will
rezone
the
subject
property
to
planned
Community.
A
development
agreement
will
ensure
the
property
is
in
conformance
with
the
sub-area,
comprehensive
plan
and
conditions
of
approval,
and
a
preliminary
plot
is
included
which
will
subdivide
the
Northwest
portion
of
the
property
into
621
Lots.
D
All
right,
so
that's
background.
Planned
communities
require
a
two-step
process,
the
first
step,
which
included
designating
the
property
as
planned
community
on
the
future
land
use
map
and
adopting
the
spring
Rock
comprehensive
plan
for
the
site
was
approved
by
the
board
of
County
Commissioners
on
April
12th
and
also
went
before
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission
before
you
tonight
is
the
Second
Step,
which
would
rezone
the
property
as
planned
community
and
adopt
the
spring
Rock.
Zoning
ordinance
for
the
site
prior
to
the
application
being
submitted.
D
Scoping
sessions
were
held
with
the
affected
service
providers
and
transportation
agencies
to
receive
input
and
two
public
involvement
sessions
were
held
by
the
applicant
in
which
all
Property
Owners
within
a
mile
of
the
site,
were
invited
to
attend.
The
application
materials
include
the
new
proposed
zoning
ordinance,
the
financing
and
urban
facilities
plan.
Excuse
me
the
phasing
and
transition
plan,
a
wildlife
and
habitat
management
plan,
a
community
design
plan
and
traffic
impact
study.
D
The
property
is
not
located
in
an
area
City
in
fact,
so
it
does
a
but
cuna's
impact
area
and
I'm
just
highlighted
other
planned
communities
in
the
area.
Again,
it
will
abut
the
Valor
plan
community,
which
will
include
approximately
2
300
homes.
That's
also
fairly
close
to
the
Mario
Farms
planned
Community
under
review
in
Boise
right
now,
and
the
Locale
plan
Community,
which
has
already
been
approved
and
include
approximately
2
000
homes.
D
D
It
will
include
a
variety
of
single-family,
townhome
and
multi-family
housing
and
encourage
accessory
dwelling
units
in
order
to
accommodate
a
wide
range
of
housing
needs.
The
plan
also
encourages
home
offices
and
home
occupations
and
envisions
the
commercial
areas
ultimately
being
able
to
provide
the
primary
daily
needs
of
residents.
D
D
The
community
will
be
connected
by
an
approximately
two
mile
long
multi-use
path,
which
will
extend
the
length
of
the
site
along
the
channel
of
Ten
Mile,
Creek
and
Pathways
will
also
be
provided
along.
The
New
York
Canal
within
the
bench
slopes
and
other
areas
throughout
the
community
to
reduce
the
need
for
vehicle
travel
interior
to
the
site.
D
Potable
water
will
be
provided
by
violia
from
a
combination
of
nine
existing
Wells
located
north
of
the
site,
which
violia
has
indicated
have
adequate
capacity
to
serve.
The
development
sewer
will
be
provided
by
an
on-site
wastewater
treatment
facility
and
irrigation
water
will
be
provided
from
existing
on-site
Wells
currently
used
to
irrigate
the
site
as
well
as
treated
water
from
the
wastewater
treatment
facility.
D
And
here's
the
preliminary
plot,
which
will
include
a
total
of
621
Lots
597
of
the
Lots,
will
be
residential,
including
356
single-family
homes
and
241
Townhomes.
A
lots
will
also
be
provided
for
a
school
wastewater
treatment
facility,
the
community
park
a
pond
and
several
neighborhood
parks
and
common
Lots.
D
And
here
is
the
landscape
plan
for
the
northern
portion
of
the
preliminary
plat,
which
provides
an
example
of
the
sidewalk
Pathways,
trees,
landscaping
and
neighborhood
parks
that
will
be
provided
throughout
the
community.
As
this
is
Five
Mile
Road
you'll
see
the
street
trees
sidewalk
provided
along
it
there's
a
lot
of
pedestrian
paths
cutting
through
the
blocks.
D
D
Just
briefly,
they
will
require
a
turning
lane,
be
added
from
10
Mile
Creek
Road
North
onto
Pleasant,
Valley
Road,
as
well
as
turn
Lanes
added
from
the
north
and
south
on
Pleasant
Valley
Road
onto
10,
Mile,
Creek,
Road,
10,
Mile,
Creek
Road
will
need
to
be
widened
to
at
least
30
feet
a
30
foot
width
with
three
foot
gravel
shoulders
from
the
subdivision
boundary
to
Pleasant,
Valley,
Road
and
also
from
Hubbard
Road
on
Hubbard
Road
from
the
project
to
to
Cloverdale
Road
and
then
just
to
note.
D
Further
improvements
to
Ten
Mile
Creek
Road
will
be
made
as
future
phases
are
developed
for
properties
that
have
Bud
it.
I'll,
say
I,
guess
one
more
note.
Prior
to
the
final
flight
approval
for
the
350th
lot,
achd
will
require
an
updated
traffic
impact
study
to
determine
if
traffic
signals
or
additional
turn
lanes
are
needed
at
the
intersections
of
Cloverdale
Road
and
Hubbard
Road
Cloverdale
Road
and
Columbia
Road
and
Columbia
Road
and
Locust
Grove
Road.
D
D
So
the
applicant
has
requested
three
modifications
to
the
conditions
of
approval
which
staff
is
supportive
of
I'll.
Just
summarize,
the
first
one
is
to
provide
more
specific
language
and
condition
of
approval
number
11
regarding
the
time
frame
for
which
the
school
sites
will
be
reserved
for
the
school
districts
staff
finds
the
existing
language
was
not
detailed
enough
and
that
the
proposed
language
will
match
the
language
within
the
spring.
Rock
Development
code.
D
The
applicant
has
requested
that
condition
number
15
be
modified
to
reference.
The
spring
Arc
development
code,
in
addition
to
the
Ada
County
code,
as
preliminary
plots
within
the
planned
Community
will
be
sub
subject
to
Provisions
from
both
and
lastly,
the
applicant
has
committed
to
dedicating
178
Acres
within
the
development
as
open
space
and
requested
the
following
condition
be
added,
which
would
require
an
additional
135.2
Acres,
be
provided
within
the
remaining
phases
of
the
development
to
meet
this
number.
D
F
Thank
you
very
much,
Mr
Moore.
My
question
is:
how
does
the
flood
plain
get
addressed,
because
that
was
one
of
the
comments
that
was
brought
up
and
so
what
agency
does
that
or
how
do
we
know
we're
not
building
houses?
Where
there's
going
to
be
this
massive
flood
Mr.
D
Chair,
commissioner,
flittman,
that's
that's
a
good
question.
This
applicant
did
receive
a
floodplain
application
approval
from
Ada
County
Ada
County
engineer.
They
received
a
conditional
letter
of
map
provision
to
improve
the
channel
for
10
Mile
Creek
to
make
it
right
now
it's
kind
of
a
little
spread
out.
The
site's
been
used
for
grazing
for
nearly
the
past
100
years
as
they
have
applied.
D
I
got
conditional
approval
from
FEMA
to
for
that
conditional
letter
of
map
revision
which,
like
to
just
kind
of
improve
that
channel
kind
of
consolidate
it,
which
would
help
the
site
to
better
handle
flooding
events
in
the
future,
but
I
guess
the
Ada
County
engineer
did-
did
approve
a
floodplain
application.
Okay,.
F
D
Yeah
Mr
chair
commissioner
Littman,
that
came
as
a
late
comment.
It
was
a
late
exhibit,
so
it
came
in
after
the
staff
report
was
finished,
so
here's
a
map
showing
the
site
and
the
Hubbard
Reservoir
Recreation
Area
about
a
mile
to
the
to
the
west
of
the
site,
and
so
Parks
just
mentioned
their
parking
area
for
the
site
currently
handles.
D
There's
currently
room
for
eight
vehicles
and
three
horse
trailers,
and
so
they
were,
they
felt
this
development
would
increase
visitation
to
the
recreation
area.
There's
not
too
many
improvements
to
the
area.
Currently
there
are
some
Trails,
but
they
do
have
plans
they're
working
on
a
master
plan
for
the
site
and
plan
to
make
more
improvements
to
it,
which
could
get
more
visits,
but
there
so
they
did
request
Assistance
or
working
with
the
applicant
to
mitigate
those
impacts
from
the
additional
visits.
D
They
didn't
make
a
specific
it's
a
monetary
request,
but
they
asked
to
coordinate
with
the
applicant
going
forward
on
potential
mitigation.
A
F
It's
an
800
plus
page
document,
so
on
page
769
there
was
this
review
from
Jacobs
that
talks
about
the
cost
borne
by
the
residents
and
so
that
they're.
Based
on
that
report,
there
was
some
costs
that
were
being
borne
by
the
residents
versus
by
the
developer,
and
then
there
was
some
other
language
that
talked
about
how
the
that
had
been
mitigated
and
if
you
could
explain
all
that
to
me,
that
would
be
awesome
because
it
was
way
beyond
my
knowledge
level.
Yeah.
D
D
B
D
Yeah
Mr
chair
commissioner
blitman
so
ultimately
well
I'll
just
kind
of
just
provide
an
overview
again.
So
the
the
potable
water
I
would
come
from
violia.
They
submitted
a
letter
saying
they'd
use
a
combination
of
nine
different
Wells
located
to
the
north
of
the
site,
which
had
capacity
I
know.
Some
of
those
Wells
are
monitored
by
idwr
out
of
the
Department
of
Water
Resources.
That's
not
something
development
services
gets
into.
We
rely
on
the
Idaho
Department
of
Water
Resources.
D
You
know
DEQ
violia
the
service
providers
to
make
those
determinations
and
state
agencies,
but
violia
has
said,
there's
they
have
capacity
and
that
they
also
have.
They
also
mentioned
their
Columbia
Water
Treatment
Plant,
which
treats
water
from
the
Boise
River
and
they're
expanding
that
plant,
that
they
can
always
subsidize
that
water
with
water
from
their
Columbia
treatment
plan,
if
needed,
but
that
their
existing
Wells
had
capacity
to
handle
it.
And
then,
regarding
the
irrigation
water,
the
applicant
demonstrated
in
the
first
phase.
They
do
have
sufficient
water
rights
to
irrigate
Landscaping
on
the
property.
D
They're,
currently
irrigating
portions
of
the
property
now
through
their
as
part
of
their
grazing,
and
then
they'll.
Also
sub
subsidize
that
water
with
additional
water
from
the
wastewater
treatment
facility,
our
engineer,
did
submit
a
comment
just
asking
that
as
a
condition
of
approval
that
it
a
test,
be
run
on
one
of
the
existing
Wells
just
to
show
that
it
didn't
negatively
impact
the
drawdown
levels.
So,
there's
a
condition
from
the
engineer
that
will
require
a
test
on
one
of
the
existing
Wells
used
to
irrigate
the
site.
A
D
D
They
mentioned
service
provision,
I,
guess
just
any
other
services
provided
by
another
service
provider
in
this
case,
they'll
be
providing
their
own
wastewater
treatment
again
Veolia
providing
the
water,
the
Emergency
Services,
as
we
mentioned,
were
covered
I,
don't
know
if
they
mentioned
a
specific
entity,
Beyond
those
but
just
in
general
I
think
they
were
a
little
concerned
with
service
providers
serving
this
area,
that's
a
little
bit
away
from
from
some
other
some
other
development,
and
they
mentioned
water
availability,
which
we
just
discussed
and
I
think
they
also
mentioned
Farmland
preservation,
and
that
was
addressed
as
part
of
the
the
first
phase.
D
But
essentially
there's
the
only
only
portion
of
the
property
is
dedicated
is
prime
Farmland.
That's
the
area
along
the
channel
of
Ten
Mile
Creek
and,
as
we
kind
of
explained
in
the
first
step,
the
property
does
kind
of
slope
a
little
bit
and
that
channel
breaks
up
the
property
and
with
it
being
just
kind
of
a
narrow,
isolated
section,
it
wasn't
the
most
ideal
spot
for
Farmland.
It's
been
used
for
grazing
for
again
about
the
past
hundred
years,
and
so
we
determined
it
wasn't
an
ideal
location
for
for
farmland.
For
those
reasons,.
D
Chair
there's,
maybe
none
that
bisect
the
property
again,
there's
well,
there's
five
mile
road
again,
which
turns
into
10
Mile
Creek
Road,
here
along
the
boundary
of
the
property
cuts
through
some
portions
of
it
again,
Five
Mile
Road
will
be
extended
through
the
site
eventually,
and
there
will
be
a
connection
from
Cloverdale
Road.
Eventually,
it's
partial
partially
there
through
the
Valor
plan
community,
so
those
will
be
coming,
but
there
aren't
any
other
significant
roadways
cutting
through
the
property
at
this
time.
D
A
C
A
A
G
Make
sure
this
works
here,
okay,
yep,
it
does
great
for
the
record.
My
name
is
Dave
jorgeson,
with
the
development
Community,
a
development
team
for
spring
Rock
playing
community.
We're
grateful
to
be
with
you
today.
We've
put
a
lot
of
work
and
effort
into
this
to
get
to
this
stage
of
the
process
and
happy
to
answer
all
your
questions
that
you
may
have
throughout
the
evening
tonight,
I'll
quickly
introduce
our
team
myself.
Dave
jorgeson
been
Land
Development
Community
here
for
over
25
years,
Chris
Finley,
Pat
dunslogger.
G
Also,
my
partners
in
this
community
Anna
canning,
is
our
local
planner
who's
been
an
expert
in
helping
us
with
zoning
code
and
other
aspects
of
the
application
and
she's
here
in
case
I
have
any
technical
questions.
I
cannot
answer,
I
want
to
go
through
the
site
and
talk
about
kind
of
a
quick
overview
and
then
I'll
go
through
the
rest
of
the
application
details.
For
you
appreciate
the
staff's
presentation.
I
will
not
repeat
all
the
things
they
said.
I'll
try
to
skip
through
things
that
I
didn't
know
what
he's
going
to
say.
G
So
if
there's
repeats
I'll
just
skip
through,
but
the
short
of
it
is
is
we're
adjacent
to
the
Falcon
Crest
Valor
Community,
it's
just
over
70
162
acres
in
size,
just
south
of
City
Boise,
and
on
the
eastern
border
of
the
city
of
kyuna.
G
Let's
see
here
make
sure
you
get
this
right
there.
It
goes
okay,
so,
as
mentioned
by
staff,
there's
a
couple
of
steps
in
the
process.
We've
already
been
to
the
first
step
to
have
the
plane
Community
approved
with
the
comprehensive
plan,
map
and
text
Amendment
and
the
sub
area
plan,
and
now
we're
in
the
implementation
phase.
Where
we
talk
about
the
implementation
plan,
the
zoning
ordinance
of
text
and
map
Amendment
and
the
primary
plaid
with
regard
to
the
implementation
plan,
I
want
to
just
kind
of
highlight
a
couple
of
things.
G
G
We
met
with
to
discuss
their
needs
and,
what's
applicable
here
and
out
of
that
came
a
kind
of
a
transition
plan
where
we
had
financing
a
phasing
plan.
We
held
wildlife,
habitat
management
plan,
the
zoning
ordinance
map
and
text
Amendment
and
then
also
the
primary
plat.
G
Likewise,
zoning
ordinance
text
and
map
Amendment,
we
really
try
to
follow
the
the
structure
of
the
Ada
County
code,
but
apply
things
that
are
unique
to
Spring
rock,
where
we
have
some
higher
densities,
where
we
have
other
code
requirements,
some
different
ownerships
of
of
open
spaces
and
things,
all
of
which
are
unique
to
Spring
Rock,
and
so
that's
where
the
applicable
zoning
ordinance
map
and
text
them
apply
to
Spring
rocket
and
the
preliminary
play.
Let
me
touch
on
that
now,
as
mentioned
with
staff.
G
There's
this
map
over
on
the
red
highlighted
area
is
this
first
phase
of
the
primary
plat.
We
have
a
mix
of
residential
uses.
We
have
some
open
spaces
which
we're
bringing
along
we're,
not
just
building
houses.
First,
we're
actually
pretty
heavy
on
the
on
the
Open
Spaces
within
this
first
part
of
the
community:
here's
a
primary
plant.
G
So
what
has
included
the
financing
and
phasing
plan?
So,
first
of
all,
we'll
talk
about
Transportation
staff
had
mentioned
we've
put
together
a
traffic
impact
study,
the
third
party
reviewer
or
the
preparer
actually
was
Kimmy
horn
and
they
go
to
achd
and
itd
and
Compass.
They
create
a
scoping
session.
They
decide.
What's
the
scope
of
this
whole,
there's
like
17
or
18
intersections
in
off-site
roads
were
all
studied
and
then
reviewed
by
achd
by
another
third
party,
reviewer
and
again
was
reviewed
and
approved
by
a
CHD
and
itd.
G
What
came
of
it
was
some
substantial
off-site
and
on-site
Road
improvements
which
we
were
agreeing
to
do
all
of
them
again.
You
don't
build
all
of
it
once,
but
we
build
a
phase
over
time,
and
so,
as
staff
had
mentioned,
there's
some
Frontage
improvements
were
required
to
do
some
widening
some
off-site
improvements,
all
of
which
we're
agreeing
to
do.
In
this
first
phase,
the
sewer
they'll
be
an
on-site
sewer
treatment
facility
built
by
us
not
paid
for
by
anybody
else,
but
building
paid
for
by
us
water.
G
There
was
a
great
discussion
by
staff
happy
to
answer
the
questions
on
that,
but
there's
an
existing
network
of
facility
that
we're
tapping
into
it's
about
a
two
mile,
long
water
line
and
another
tap
into
a
second
line
for
looping,
of
which
we'll
be
installing
at
our
expense.
The
infrastructure,
the
easements
are
there
for
us
to
bring
the
infrastructure
in
and
both
the
sewer
treatment
and
the
water
are
planned
to
be
constructed.
The
start
of
construction
this
summer.
G
What
will
come
of
that
is
is,
in
addition
to
the
water
usage
for
the
homes,
is
we're
trying
to
minimize
the
other
water,
the
existing
water
that
we
already
have
with
the
subsurface
water
rights.
The
site
does
not
have
any
surface
water
rights,
it's
all
Wells.
It's
been
farmed
for
this
site
for
a
long
period
of
time.
G
We'll
have
conservation
at
Landscaping
types
where
we
can
to
minimize
that
water
use,
but
then,
where
the
water
is
most
likely
not
totally
sufficient
to
water.
In
that
way,
then
we'll
use
our
other
Wells,
the
existing
Wells,
the
existing
water
rights
on
the
site
as
the
backup
or
the
supplemental
water
to
meet
the
needs.
So
what
water
we
don't
use
will
help
recharge
the
aquifer
in
essence,
not
using
it,
and
secondly,
if
we
have
excess
water
coming
into
the
pond,
we'll
then
have
a
recharge
back
into
the
groundwater
per
DEQ
standards.
G
See
here,
gas
electric
is
off-site
also
runs
along
the
frontage,
as
we'll
have
power
and
gas
to
the
site.
There.
Schools
have
already
talked
about
the
kuna
school
district
and
West
data,
school
district
and
school
sites,
as
they've
requested
set
aside
and
preserved
Emergency
Services,
fire,
police
and
paramedics.
We
recognize
the
this
has
been
driven
primarily
by
Cuna
fire
district
where
they
have
an
existing
site.
We
offer
to
have
one
within
ours.
G
They
wanted
to
use
the
one
that
they
have
that's
just
about
two
miles
to
the
southwest
of
us,
and
so
we
are
working
with
them
and
it's
going
to
be
one
of
two
things
they
offered
for
us
to
prepay
impact
fees
and
later
they
came
back
and
said.
Well,
maybe
it's
going
to
be
better
off.
Actually,
if
you
us
build
the
fire
station
and
then
just
donate
it
to
them,
and
that's
that's
probably
what
most
likely
will
be
the
case
and
then
we'll
actually
build
and
expand.
G
It
we'll
have
another
Bay
where
there's
some
existing
facility
for
a
separate
substation
for
the
Ada
County
Sheriff
to
house
out
of,
and
then
thirdly,
would
be
Ada
County
paramedics,
where
they
will
have
an
existing
Bay.
They
can
locate
into
now.
It's
not
just
the
capital
cost,
but
it's
also
the
ongoing
expenses
as
well.
So
we
have
arranged
with
them.
They're
different
numbers
based
on
what
they
requested
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
initial
surge
of
of
fire
firemen,
for
example,
or
added
police
sheriff
Services,
whatever
that
need
might
be.
G
Until
again,
the
property
tax
increases
take
place
with
the
added
homes
in
the
community
and,
lastly,
homes
homes
don't
come
all
at
once.
Also
they
they
they're
built
out
over
time,
and
so
as
the
homes
are
phased
in
commercial
will
follow
shortly
after
that,
we're
really
trying
to
lead
forward
with
more
open
space,
not
less
on
the
front
end,
and
so
that's
all
being
phased
as
we
go
forward.
All
of
these
are
identified
in
the
financing
plan.
G
The
phasing
transition
plans
with
that
are
presented
to
you
I
was
heavily
involved
with
those
details
happily
happy
to
answer
the
questions
you
may
have
on
them,
but
really
it's
the
developer
paid
for
leading
forward.
First,
we
will
be
charging
a
hookup
fee
to
the
builders
to
help
reimburse
a
portion
of
the
cause
for
the
sewer
treatment,
for
example,
but
it's
something
we'll
be
owning
well,
the
owner
of
and
we'll
be
partnering
with
another
maintenance
company
for
the
maintenance
of
that
the
same
entities
that
have
been
doing
avamora,
Dry
Creek
as
well.
G
So
in
a
quick
summary,
the
phasing
goals
click
through
these
here
really,
the
phasing
is
based
on
demand
from
the
agencies,
and
they
they
dictate
the
phasing,
the
timing
of
which
we
follow.
It
helps
to
ensure
the
growth
is
paying
its
proportions
share
along
the
way,
there's
significant
on-site
and
off-site
improvements
of
which
we'll
be
paid
for
by
the
developer.
We
really
are
striving
to
support,
affordable
housing
in
this
community,
we're
not
just
building
all
one
type
of
housing.
G
G
So
there's
a
process
I'll
just
kind
of
skip
through
this
real
quickly,
but
we
did
meet
with
agencies
met
with
neighbors.
There
was
comments
after
the
fact
follow-up
meetings
with
each
of
them
as
well
and
there's
comments
of
opposition
support
and
neutral
actually,
and
we
appreciate
all
the
comments
we
try
to
integrate,
where
we
could
make
adjustments
where
possible
and
and
a
lot
of
Staff
addressed
a
lot
of
those
comments,
I'll
just
kind
of
skip
through
those
we
recognize
the
city
of
Boise's
letter
we
even
reached
out
to
Tim
Keane
no
response.
G
He
was
the
author
of
The
Letter,
the
planning
director
I've,
worked
with
Tim
on
a
couple
of
the
things
and
wished
he'd
asked
me
because
I
can
explain.
He
just
maybe
didn't
want
to
talk.
I,
don't
know
the
reasons,
but
the
point
is
is
that
this
is
not
prime
Farm
ground.
We
are
paying
for
the
services.
Yes,
if
we
weren't
doing
that,
absolutely
it's
a
big
burden
on
the
community,
but
that's
not
the
case.
We
are
Whiting
roads.
We
are
adding
infrastructure
at
our
expense
to
help
meet
our
burden
and
responsibilities.
G
G
No
we'll
just
leave
it.
There
anyway
I
appreciate
their
comments
as
we
work
through
the
whole
process.
One
final
comment
just
for
the
record
here
in
the
planning
zoning
commission,
when
we
met
last
time
six
seven
eight
months
ago,
whenever
that
was
one
of
the
questions
from
one
of
the
neighbors
asked
about
the
traffic
impact
study
and
if
it
includes
the
background
traffic
or
the
planned
traffic
from
the
Falcon
Crest
Valor
subdivision,
we
went
back
to
Compass
and
achd
and
verified
and
asked
that
question.
They
said.
G
Okay,
come
almost
there.
So
last
last
couple
comments,
as
mentioned
by
the
staff,
we
are
requesting
three
changes
to
the
staff
report.
Really.
The
reason
for
that
is
to
have
clarity
as
we
move
forward
over
the
three
comments
regarding
the
open
space
calculations.
The
second
is
on
the
conditions
regarding
School
site.
We
split
it
up
as
more
clear
and
precise
regarding
kuna
and
West
data,
we're
still
committed
to
those
Public
Schools.
G
We
have
had
a
charter
school
actually
more
than
one
reached
out
and
say
we're
ready
now,
but
we're
honoring
the
prayer
commitments
we
gave
specifically
to
kuna
School
District,
if
they're
not
able
to
there's
some
opportunities
for
them
to
opt
out,
but
if
they
cannot
within
a
limited
time
frame,
then
they're
not
committed.
Also,
we
will
be
able
to
bring
in
other
opportunities
for
our
kids
to
be
educated
there,
and,
lastly,
is
the
flexibility
on
future
plats,
making
sure
we're
not
just
reducing
things.
G
G
G
So
in
conclusion,
we've
put
a
lot
of
work
in
this.
We're
hired
a
lot
of
Consultants
to
try
to
answer
all
the
questions.
We've
been
actively
engaged
for
the
process
with
agencies
and
we
respect
all
the
pro
the
process
and-
and
the
question
has
been
raised
to
this
point-
a
lot
been
a
lot
of
third-party
reviews,
including
agencies
and
staff.
Here
at
the
county,
we
believe
we
meet
all
of
ADA
County's
codes,
the
requirements.
G
C
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman,
just
a
couple
of
times.
Thank
you
Mr
jorgerson,
you
talked
twice
you
mentioned
or
three
times
about
affordable
housing,
how's
that
going
to
look
and
how
are
you
going
to
assure
that
there
will
be
affordable
housing
there.
G
That's
not
our
plan
at
all,
but
we
do
have
this
primarily
through
two
two
means
one
is
housing
size
and
for
rent
for
sale,
and
so
by
doing
that,
we
know
we
can
drive
down
the
cost
so
that,
through
through
smaller
product
type,
we
can
have
more
affordable
housing.
That's
really
kind
of
the
simple
answer:
we'll
have
some
apartments
we'll
have
some
Town
Homes
we'll
have
some
for
rent
and
for
sale
in
those
townhome
section
and
then
we'll
have
some
traditional
housing
too.
G
It's
just
not
all
Town
Homes
I
can
fine-tune
I'll
get
to
it
here.
My
map
too
many
little
simple
lines.
Sorry
about
this.
G
20
of
the
project,
I
would
say
now,
when
you
say:
affordable,
housing,
affordable
housing
is
a
broad
definition,
and
that's
really
what's
hard
about
this.
The
new
terminology
in
today's
Community
is
attainable:
housing
and
I'll.
Let
you
know
how
to
define
that,
because
that's
not
even
well-defined,
admittedly,
but
we
look
at
things
like
median
wage
and
really
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
help
those
who
are
in
the
community
school
teachers,
police
officers,
those
who
are
struck,
my
son
who's,
25
years
old.
He
lives
in
the
city
of
Meridian.
He's
married
he's
a
tax
accountant.
C
C
Please
or
two
more
maybe
two,
you
explained
and
about
the
the
neighborhood
meeting
that
you
had
and
some
of
the
concerns
on
there.
How
did
people
feel
when
they
left
that
night.
G
Mr
chairman
and
commissioner
Wickstrom
mixed
feelings
because
of
mixed
responses.
We
have
people
who
showed
up
who
are
residents
in
the
area
who
are
unopposed.
G
We
have
some
who
see
it,
they
see
the
vision
and
they
actually
are
supportive
and
there
are
several
who
are,
of
course,
opposed
and
didn't
matter
what
I
had
to
say
they
didn't
like
it.
So
just
being
honest,
we
try
to
explain
this.
This
isn't
just
building
houses
and
we're
not
doing
anything
to
help
with
the
streets,
for
example,
we're
doing
quite
a
bit
to
help
with
streets.
In
fact,
I
think
we're
gonna
be
helping
intersections
at
Cloverdale
today
that
without
us
those
intersections
will
not
get
better.
G
In
addition
to
these
improvements,
oh
by
the
way-
and
we
explained
to
the
residents
in
addition
to
the
over
10
million
dollars
of
Street
improvements,
we'll
be
doing
in
this
project,
we're
paying
over
10
million
dollars
of
impact
fees,
it
will
be
in
addition
to
our
off-site
improvements
to
help
alleviate
any
other
plans.
Acsd
has
for
the
area.
So
not
everyone
like
the
answers.
No
one
likes
growth
and
we
understand
that.
But
those
are
the
answers.
Okay,.
C
One
More
Mr
chairman
just
lastly,
the
the
big.
The
big
thing
for
me
for
a
lot
of
people
was
just
the
transportation
thing.
You
don't
have
any
really
good
direct
access
to
the
to
the
freeway
and
you
can
go
down
Pleasant
Valley
Road
and
that's
gonna.
You're
gonna
funnel
eventually
down
the
road
thousands
of
people
down
that
one
road,
because
coal
doesn't
come
through
and
Five
Mile
doesn't
come
through
all
the
way
to
you
any
thoughts
or,
and
how
would
you
adjust
to
that
position?
Mr.
G
Chairman
and
commissioner
Wicks
from
you're
100
correct
and
that's
why
we're
already
doing
some
initial
Whiting
of
10,
Mile,
Creek
and
and
to
Pleasant
Valley
Road.
If
you
sorry
that
impact
study
is
really
big,
the
impact
study
outlines
a
phasing
of
how
to
approach
that.
So
we
believe
that
probably
more
than
half
of
the
cars
will
be
going
down.
G
10,
lock,
Creek
Road
to
Pleasant
Valley
towards
Micron
towards
the
airport,
towards
the
freeway,
as
you
suggested
there,
and
so
the
the
reason
for
the
multiple
traffic
impact
studies
that
ACC
will
require
is
to
follow
up
with
required
improvements
based
on
the
actual
distribution
of
cars,
as
the
project
gets
built
out
over
time.
G
And
so,
if
the
traffic
engineer
was
wrong
and
instead
of
a
60,
40
split
one
way,
it's
40,
60,
the
other
or
70
30
or
whatever
that
is,
and
whatever
those
improvements
that
are
required
will
be
done
sooner
based
on
the
traffic
that
is
brought
into
the
area
sooner
and
so
again,
as
we
have
acc's
requiring
and
we're
agreeing
to
this
condition
after
350.
This
is
the
final
plated
knot.
So
it's
not
even
buildable
Lots,
it's
just
when
we
have
our
350th
lot
in
the
final
plat.
G
So
that's
not
even
building
out
this
whole
primary
plan
of
the
first
area,
a
if
you
will
then
we'll
have
to
do
another
traffic
impact
study.
Acht
will
review
and
approve
it
and
decide
if
we're
if
it's
warranted,
to
install
those
additional
infrastructure,
improvements,
again
Cloverdale
intersection
or
widening
in
the
area
or
the
other
direction.
10
Mile,
Creek,
Pleasant,
Valley,
Pleasant,
Valley
and
Orchard,
and
so
forth.
G
I
Scott
so
I
see
on
on
your
map.
Here
you
have
some
commercial
setup
in
there.
Can
you
tell
me
about
some
of
the
commercial
anticipated
I
mean.
The
reason
I'm
concerned
is
because
between
Cuna
and
really
Overland,
it's
like
a
commercial
void
and
we
just
continue
to
dump
houses
upon
houses
in
that
area.
Without
anything
else,
we
have
is
like
an
Albertsons
at
Lake
Hazel,
and
what
is
that
Five
Mile?
G
Mr
chairman
and
commissioner
Scott
I
really
appreciate
that
question.
Not
many
have
asked
that
one
actually
a
couple
of
comments.
First
of
all,
Valor
Falcon
Crest
has
a
planned
commercial
corner.
I,
don't
want
to
say
which
grocery
store.
It
is,
but
it's
big
enough
that
it
could
be
a
grocery
store
and
that
that'd
be
on
the
corner
of
Cloverdale
on
kuna
Road.
So
we
think
that,
as
far
as
more
larger
shopping
in
that
area,
we
think
that's
where
that'll
probably
happen.
G
As
far
as
within
our
community,
we
have
kind
of
two
areas:
one
is
identified
by
our
I
know.
This
is
red.
Laser
knots
can
work
so
I'll
just
kind
of
talk
about
it,
but,
as
you
come
down
five
miles
just
right
to
where
that
roundabout
is
and
then
you
turn
right
to
10
Mile
Creek
Road,
that's
where
that
Frontage
will
have
some
some
commercial
added.
We
call
that
neighborhood
commercial,
so
it
could
be
restaurants
or
shop
of
sandwich
shops,
those
types
of
eateries.
G
It
could
also
be
little
office
pads
or
those
types
of
neighborhoods
supporting
it
could
be
a
dentist
or
an
insurance
office
or
those
type
of
uses.
Likewise,
if
you
continue
further
down
toward
the
darker
brown
area,
is
that's
where
we
have
a
little
higher
density
of
residential,
where
they
could
actually
walk
to
some
other
commercial
areas.
We
actually
Envision
a
child
daycare
next
to
the
other
school
site,
for
example,
or
a
convenience
store
or
those
types
of
uses
right
at
that
location
there.
G
So
if
someone
doesn't
have
to
drive
five
miles
to
get
a
gallon
of
milk,
they
could
just
go
to
somewhere
in
one
of
those
two
locations
to
get
those
more
urge
and
needs
of
bread
or
milk
or
eggs.
Whatever
you
find
a
convenience
store.
So
that's
what
we're
envisioning
there
further
down
to
the
far
east
Southeast
is
where
we're
envisioning
more
commercial,
but
also
Mini
Storage.
We
recognize
there's,
there's
people
have
boats
and
trailers
and
toys
and
there's
not
going
to
be
a
lot
of
big
yard.
G
Big
big
garages
for
those
types
of
things-
maybe
some,
but
it's
really
not
most
and
so
we're
trying
to
plan
for
those
types
of
needs
as
well
and
so
ours
plus
the
Falcon
Crest
valor's,
not
just
their
I'm.
Sorry,
I,
don't
know
the
size
there,
but
it's
bigger
than
what
we
have
for
a
location
on
their
hard
Corner.
Those
combined,
we
think,
supplement
and
complement
each
other
there's
a
little
more
Regional
in
nature,
and
ours
is
a
little
more
neighborhood
focus
and
then,
lastly,
how
do
you
tie
together?
G
There's
five
mile
will
come
down
south
it'll
continue
all
the
way
adjacent
to
area
B
and
ties
into.
In
fact,
I
talked
to
the
developer.
Just
last
week
of
Falcon
Crest
and
they're,
already
negotiating
and
working
on
the
right-of-way
widths
and
their
construction
designs.
It
sounds
like
for
their
primary
plat
for
that
connection
of
five
miles.
G
There
are
a
few
years
ahead
of
us,
admittedly
but
they're,
but
we'll
get
there
as
quick
as
we
can
and
as
soon
as
we
get
past
area
a
then
we'll
be
able
to
go
up
the
hill
and
tie
into
their
sections.
What
our
plan
is
so
then
we'll
have
a
secondary
interconnectivity
to
where
that
will
help
alleviate
one.
Maybe
one
final
comment
for
you
on
trip
capture
and
staff
had
mentioned
it,
but
with
the
commercial
uses
we
have
it's
estimated
to
be
just
over.
I
One
other
question
sure
separate
thing:
you
talk
about
sustainability.
You
talked
about
recharging
aquifers.
Things
like
that.
You
have
plenty
of
green
space.
Is
there
anything
else
that
you're
going
to
be
looking
at
doing
that
could
be
fall
under
the
realm
of
sustainability?
So
that
again
we're
just
you
have
a
what
looks
like
a
pretty
good
plan
here,
but
we're
just
trying
not
to
create
a
bunch
of
black
roofs
like
creating
like
heat
zones.
Things
like
that
yeah.
G
Mr
chairman
commissioner
Scott
I
appreciate
that
there
is
a
section,
the
planned
community
that
was
visited
by
this
commission
earlier
and
and
approved
by
the
board
of
County
Commissioners
April
or
so
are
some
things
about.
Just
that
specific
thing:
EV
charging
stations
and
solar
panels
and
those
types
of
things
to
try
to
help
soften
the
the
demand
upon
the
the
the
the
grid.
If
you
will
likewise
conservation
for
water,
we
recognize
with
with
landscaping
and
try
to
be
sensitive
in
that.
G
In
that
regard,
we
we
respect
water
as
a
primary
use
and
well
there's
just
a
handful
of
things
like
that.
But
those
are
things
we're
looked
at.
Landscaping
certainly
want
to
encourage
Landscaping
to
help
canopy
and
cover
up
parking
areas
and
and
streetscapes
to
help
alleviate
those
zones
too.
Hope
that
helps
answer
the
question.
No,
that's.
E
So
a
couple
of
questions
for
you
one
is
how
many,
how
many
AG
Wells
that
are
already
on
the
property.
G
G
So
there's
two
in
that
area
and
they
all
flood
irrigate
to
the
West
all
the
way
to
the
West
there's
a
third
up
in
the
upper
area
in
the
where
it
says
area
B
on
the
right
side,
where
that
little
triangle
is
that
whole
area
is
a
sod
farm,
it's
been
leased
out
to
Cloverdale
Nursery
and
that's
where
the
third
well
is.
Okay,.
E
So
with
that,
those
AG
Wells
have
been
there
years
and
and
knowing
I'm
I'm
pretty
familiar
and
actually
really
familiar
with
the
area
and
knowing
those
guys
when
they
basically
service,
like
hey,
if
they're
gonna
allow
another
person
another
well
or
whatnot,
all
this
is
taken
into
consideration
and
obviously
these
were
approved
to
Services
area
for
ever
since
they
were
able
to
build
and,
and
so
what
I'm
seeing
here
and
what
you've
explained
and
I'm
just
making
sure
I
got
got
this
and
understand
this
they're
not
even
going
to
be
used
for
drinking
water.
E
E
So,
as
this
gets
built
out,
I
see
actually
you
guys
using
less
water
than
what
is
really
out
there.
Now,
due
to
all
the
structures
me
basically
less
less
usage
of
green
grass
to
cover
versus
you
know
what
it
is
now
and
then
I
mean:
do
you
guys
predict
that
I
mean
and
I?
You
know
I'm.
Just
it's
just
a
question,
of
course
that
you
guys
will
end
up
producing
probably
more
water
back
into
the
aquifer
than
you're
taking
taking
out
not
then
what's
being
taken
out
now
to
water.
G
Chairman
commissioner
Coulson,
that
is
yes,
that
is
the
correct
way
to
assess
this.
There's
anything.
This
way,
there's
more
water
coming
in
through
violia,
going
to
think
of
it
just
as
a
circle.
There's
just
more
water
coming
in
it's
going
to
go
through
the
short
treatment
facility
and
we'll
use
whatever
that
reuse.
Water
is
first
and
then,
with
the
existing
water
rights
we
have
with
the
three
Wells
is
identified,
we'll
be
using
those
to
supplement
to
meet
the
balance
of
the
need
for
irrigation.
G
That's
soil!
You
could
just
use
the
ReUse
water
first
and
then
whatever's,
not
sufficient.
There
we'll
use
the
wells
so
whatever
we're
not
using
will
that's
just
water
left
over
if
you
will
in
the
system
and
or
if
the
pond
is
overflowing,
not
that
overflows,
but
it
intentionally
might
might
fluctuate
up
and
down
we'll
have
relief
valve
where
it
can
then
discharge
water
back
into
the
ground.
So
we
don't
see
it
as
a
net
increase,
but
our
goal
really
isn't
that
using
less
water
than
than
there
is
today.
Okay,.
E
G
Chairman
commissioner
Coulson,
the
plan
is,
is
agreed
upon
by
us
in
the
fire
district
is
upon
approval
of
this
preliminary
plant,
which
your
recommendation
body,
but
to
the
board
of
County
Commissioners.
Then
we
are
required
to
start
engaging
immediately.
Okay.
They
will
provide
the
plans
to
us
if
we're
building
it.
If
not,
then,
prior
to
our
first
plot,
we
have
to
pay
prepay
our
impact
fees.
So
then
they
have
the
money
to
go,
build
it
themselves.
If
that's
the
route,
they
want
to
go.
E
I
So
as
a
product
of
gallon
I've,
I
I
brought
this
up
the
last
time
and
not
I've
I
have
some
concerns
and
I'm
not
huge
concerns,
but
Pleasant
Valley
runs
adjacent
to
the
tank
trail
of
gallon
when
they
go
out
for
their
gunneries.
That's
a
lot
of
tanks
that
roll
down
that
street
that's
a
very
limited
use
road
because
it
Services
prisons
essentially.
G
Mr
chairman,
commissioner
Scott,
we
work
with
traffic
agencies
to
tell
us
what
that
scope
is
they're,
not
the
only
users.
We're
also
worried
about
gravel
truck
users
too,
and
so
to
your
point.
That's
part
of
this
phasing
of
the
widening
of
that
area.
I
I!
Don't
have
that
specific
answer
for
you
now,
because
they're,
not
the
only
one
who
used
the
road
again,
the
gravel.
They
seemed
to
be
more
concerned
from
the
traffic
agencies
with
the
gravel
trucks
than
there
was
with
gallon.
Just
sharing
with
you
that
wasn't
a
concern.
I
Asked
the
question:
how
do
I
drive
that
into
gallon
quite
often
and
I
just
know
that
tanks
physically
cross
portions
of
the
road
there
increase
traffic
and
I'm,
not
saying
someone's
going
to
hit
a
tank?
It's
pretty
hard
to
run
into
a
tank
I'm.
Just
saying
that
when
those
happen
it
shuts
that
road
down
for
a
period
of
time.
So.
G
F
I,
do
it's
the
same
questions
I
asked
Mr
Moore,
but
talk
to
us
a
little
bit
about
the
Jacob
study
and
it
talks
about
the
cost
borne
by
the
other
residents
and
then
your
response
to
that.
G
Mr
chairman
and
commissioner
blitman,
there
were
a
couple
things
that
Jacob's
letter
that
were,
admittedly,
maybe
a
little
vague's.
We
tried
to
address
them
as
best
we
could,
and
one
of
them
was
that
specific
item
right
there.
We
recognize
the
term
paid
for
by
citizens
was
kind
of
what
are
they
talking
about
which
additional
services,
not
all
the
property
taxes
that
were
accounted
for
in
the
financial
plan,
were
allocated
to
only
those
limited
Services
of
sheriff
and
paramedics,
or
whichever
there's
weed
and
pests.
G
There's
there's
several
other
agencies
here
at
the
county
that
do
also
collect
funds.
That
would
also
be
used
towards
that.
So
we
think
that's
probably
what
they're
referring
to,
but
but
more
than
that
is
the
cost
of
the
borned
by
the
residents.
We
do
plan
on
charging
our
residents,
the
homeowners
of
and
the
commercial
owners
of
spring
Rock
annual
homeowners
dues,
and
they
will
be
paying
for
the
maintenance
of
variety
of
services
that
are
direct
to
Spring
Rock.
G
Now,
outside
of
that
I,
don't
know
what
else
Jacobs
was
referring
to
there's
ongoing
property
taxes
that
there's
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
millions
of
dollars.
Frankly,
this
is
built
out,
they
will
be
coming
coming
into
the
county,
so
we
think
that
might
be
what
we're
referring
to,
but
just
weren't
capturing
it
in
their
statements.
But
we
know
that,
based
on
all
the
analysis
was
done,
appears
that
those
added
Services
through
an
annual
basis
and
it
full
about
build
out-
are
paid
for.
G
Yes,
thank
you
for
raising
that
question.
Mr
chairman
and
commission
blitman
again
I'll
point
and
talk
if
I
look
at
the
screen
up
there.
If,
if
you
look
where
the
pond
is
on
the
far
northwest
corner,
just
above
it,
there's
a
green
line
that
runs
diagonally
through
the
project.
If
you
can
see
that
green
line,
that
runs
all
the
way
through
there,
and
that
is
where
the
new
channel
will
be
that's
a
fairly
wide
green
strip,
because
it's
a
pretty
big
piece
of
property
we're
talking
about
here,
but
it's
actually.
G
G
County
engineer
asked
that
we
assess
further
upstream
and
we
study
the
waters
not
only
all
the
way
up
to
blacks,
Creek,
Reservoir,
probably
all
the
way
up
to
Atlanta,
where
it
comes
out
of
the
mountain
in
the
event
of
a
significant
rain
event
in
the
event
of
a
whatever
event,
they
asked
us
to
do,
and
so
in
the
event
black
screen,
Reservoir
spills,
floods,
where
does
water
go,
and
so
we
channeled
and
modeled
that
entire
thing
through
there
and
that's
maybe
what
this
model
is
coming
from,
but
admittedly
the
site's
so
flat
that
on
a
map
it
looks
like
it's
covering
a
pretty
big
chunk
of
land.
G
But
when
you
Channel
it,
you
dig
it
down.
I
think
the
number
is
like
six
feet
or
some
distance
like
that
have
a
bottom
to
it
then
slopes
back
up
on
top,
that's
the
equivalent
to
the
same
amount
of
water
is
the
float
long
flat
white
area,
so
we're
channeling
this
area
into
a
narrow
area.
So
if
there
is
a
flood
it'll
run
through
that
channel
out
to
and
discharge
historically
where
it
may
have
gone
frankly
to
the
pond,.
B
F
Hubbard
Reservoir
and
is
there
impact
fees,
Park
impact
fees
for
the
county,
or
is
that
not
happened
yet
great.
G
Question
Mr
chairman,
if
I
answered
and
commissioner
blitman
I
Heard
a
couple,
questions
I'll
speak
to
impact
fees
first,
oddly
enough,
I
was
given
the
opportunity
and
I
serve
on
Ada
County's
Park
impact
or
the
development
impact
advisory
committee,
so
I'm
a
little
familiar
with
what
is
in
place,
or
maybe,
more
importantly,
what's
coming
totally
support
impact
fees
want
that
be
very
clear
here.
G
We
understand
the
need
for
impact
fees
for
growth,
to
pay
for
itself
and
where
it
doesn't,
then
it
becomes
a
burden
for
agencies
to
maintain
levels
of
service
and
and
the
Capital
Improvements
are
necessary
to
to
maintain
levels
of
service,
and
so
with
that,
no
there's,
no
Ada
County
Park
impact
fee.
Today
that
I
haven't
seen
it.
G
We
approach
data
County,
Parks
and
Rec
when
this
project
was
first
beginning
and
asked
if
they
would
allow
us
to
build
all
these
parks
and
Pathways
and
trails
and
give
them
to
the
county
and
they
reject
their
offer.
So
we
thought
okay,
we'll
do
it
privately.
That's
part
of
the
we're
paying
ourselves
the
homeowner's
gonna
be
paying
annual
dues,
even
though
it'll
be
used
by
the
public.
We
know
people
come
in
and
use
our
30
acre
park.
G
For
example,
homeowners
will
be
paying
annual
dues
to
to
maintain
that
we
hope
to
offset
it
with
the
other
means,
but
that's
a
separate
discussion
so
with
that
we
have
miles
not
just
the
two
and
a
half
mile
Trail,
that's
along
the
canal,
we'll
call
it
the
10
Mile,
Creek
pathway,
but
there's
miles
of
trails
without
scattered
throughout
the
development,
in
addition
to
that
Miles.
G
G
Having
said
that,
we
saw
the
letter
come
in
after
the
staff
report
was
prepared,
kind
of
surprised
Us
in
Italy
because
of
the
discussion
we've
had
to
this
point:
we're
not
agreeable
to
an
open-ended
condition
that
just
doesn't
make
sense.
The
other
thing
maybe
to
share
is
with
our
wildlife
habitat
mitigation
plan.
A
conservation
committee
is
created
and
we've
committed
to
off-site
and
on-site
mitigations
dollars,
which
we
have
no
control
over,
in
which
that
committee
could
then
allocate
those
dollars
to
the
Hubbard
Reservoir
expansion
or
maintenance,
or
both
whatever's
appropriate
there.
G
G
If
you
want
us
to
help
I
I,
don't
know
where
that
would
be,
because
they
didn't
tell
us
what
they
really
want.
They
don't
know
what
they
are
headed
towards,
but
we
feel
like
we're
doing
a
lot.
We're
not
just
our
residents,
but
all
the
residents
to
live
within
a
few
miles
of
our
area
will
come
and
benefit
from
our
improvements.
A
A
A
J
J
He
said
that
there
was
no
negative
comments.
That
is
absolutely
wrong
and
that's
absolute
pure
lie.
I
have
a
complaint
about
intimidation,
threats
and
extortion
that
were
used
in
the
subdivision
approval
process.
I
am
an
immigrant
I'm
struggling
with
English
I
asked
for
English
translation
in
Czech
translation,
but
I
was
refused.
J
The
two
meanings
I
have
been
to
were
full
of
extremely
hostile
environments,
the
two
Street
meetings
whenever
Community
meetings,
full
of
microaggression
nativism
xenophobia
and
racism
on
the
side
of
the
organizers.
This
is
how
the
organizers
want
to
force
their
way.
I.
Try
to
ask
questions
about
the
impact,
including
the
effect
of
water
depletion,
the
water
depletion,
the
traffic
congestion
and
so
on.
Do
I.
Speak
am
I
understood
here.
So
it's
going
to
be
like
down
there.
They
treated
me
with
aggression,
they
intimidated
me.
They
mocked
my
accent
right
in
front
of
my
wife.
J
They
refused
to
talk
directly
to
me.
They
spoke
to
my
wife.
They
just
I
asked
a
question
and
they
spoke
to
her
because
she
doesn't
have
an
accent.
I
was
treated,
it
was
total.
What's
the
word
for
it
segregation
they
treated
me
as
no
person
they
treated
me
with
aggression
marked
by
accident.
Harass
me
discriminate
because
of
my
national
origin.
I
wanted
to
bring
up
relevant
issues
such
as
water
availability,
likely
traffic
congestion,
which
is
supposed
to
be
5
000
cars
on
that
little
tiny
roads.
J
J
They're
using
dishonest
phrases
such
as
a
high
density
housing
instead
of
affordable
housing
and
so
forth.
Like
I
said
they
mocked,
my
accent
make
microaggression
I'm
an
immigrant.
They
shut
me
down
by
using
xenophobic
and
nativistic
Supremacy.
Then,
on
the
next
meeting
they
brought
two
Sheriff
deputies
to
intimidate
me.
They
used
my
family
trauma
which
we
have
which
I
have
from
the
police
forces.
J
J
J
The
trauma
from
the
Nazi
German
concentration
camp
goes
for
four
or
more
generation,
so
some
people
know
how
to
use
this
to
intimidate
me
and
others.
With
this
trauma,
I
myself
was
beaten,
bloody
tortured,
threatened,
tied
to
the
ground
by
the
violent
Communists
and
by
violent
Communists
in
uniforms.
They
know
how
to
scare
me
I'm
scared
to
death
right
now,
I'm
shaking
from
stress.
J
J
The
intimidation
worked,
I
was
afraid
to
speak
at
the
second
neighborhood
meeting.
I
was
quiet
as
a
mouth,
because
I
didn't
want
to
get
any
more
harassment
from
them
from
them
who
stood
there
under
their
little
little
tent
or
whatever.
There
were
Sheriff
deputies
this
time,
two
of
them.
So
that's
this
is
how
this
Mega
subdivision
insane
Mega
subdivision
is
built,
build
on
Nazi,
German
and
communist
xenophobia,
nativism
intimidation,
extortion,
but
the
developers
are
getting
their
way
with
cruise
xenophobia,
nativism
and
Supremacy
this
commission
allowed.
J
If
this
commission
allows
this
to
take
place,
then
the
subdivision
will
have
a
legacy
of
national
discrimination,
national
origin,
discrimination
and
harassment
or
racism.
There's
no
need,
there's
need
to
be
invested.
There's
no
there's
need
to
be
investigation
into
practices
and
Discovery
process
of
what
they
are
doing.
Nativism's
uniforms
expect
immigrants
to
be
quiet.
They
pretend
that
they
do
not
understand
me.
That's
what
I
did
they
pretended?
They
don't
understand
me
and
they
start
talking
to
my
wife.
They
did
it
to
harass,
intimidate,
segregate
and
silence
me.
J
Do
they
pretend
they
don't
understand
and
they
were
trying
to
and
they
basically
telling
me
I
should
shut
up
and
they
did
not
answer
my
questions
after
the
mistreatment
during
the
first
neighborhood
meeting
I
went.
J
This
is
three
minutes.
I
was
promised
five
minutes,
I
went
to
and
I
was
by
what
was
his
name
Leon
I
went
to
and
I
was
too
scared
and
intimidated
to
speak
at
the
second
meeting.
I
did
not
want
my
acts
and
marked
anymore.
I
did
not
want
to
be
humiliated.
I
did
not
want
to
be
attacked
over
my
national
origin.
I
did
not
want
to
be
threatened
by
law
enforcement
that
it
placed
threats
that
I
would
be
deported.
J
This
is
really
serious.
I
was
attacked
because
I'm,
an
immigrant
I,
am
very
scared
and
uncomfortable
and
miserable
to
have
to
stand
here
and
to
be
here
at
this
Podium.
But
something
must
be
done
about
these
discriminations.
Xenophobia,
nativism
racism,
because
it
hurts
me
and
it
hurts
others.
I
am
a
United
States,
citizen
and
citizen
of
the
state
of
Idaho,
and
my
citizens,
privileges
and
immunities
should
and
must
be
protected
and
respected.
J
More
so
in
public
meeting,
neighborhood
meetings
and
so
on,
I
must
have
a
full
protection
of
the
law
they
if
they
they
get
away
with
the
white
bullying
and
buffaloing
us
they
defamed
and
slaughtered
me
I
am
an
immigrant
struggling
with
English,
so
I'm
an
easy
target.
I
just
wanted
to
be
treated
as
human
being,
even
though
I'm
an
immigrant
with
an
accent.
Thank
you.
A
K
I,
don't
know
I'm
I'm
worried
about
my
well
them
running
my
well
dry
and
a
lot
of
the
wells
in
the
area
have
dropped
and
I'm
worried
about
yeah
the
the
amount
of
water
they're
going
to
use
in
their
irrigation
or
their
toilets
or
showers
or
whatever
and
I'm
just
worried
about
yeah,
the
water
usage
and
the
impact
it's
going
to
have
on
the
wells
in
our
area.
J
Can
I
ask
a
question
yeah?
Did
you
make
any
negative
comments
and
comments
during
that
meeting
there,
because
they're
saying
there
was
no
negative
comments.
K
J
K
Okay,
yeah
and
I
have
a
little
problem
with
the
word
sustainable
that
they
had
up
there.
I
mean
this
is
World
economic,
Forum
speak
and
I'm
just
a
little
concerned.
This
is
part
of
the
15-minute
City
agenda
that
the
world
economic
forum
is
imposing
on
communities
around
the
world
around
the
United,
States
and
I.
Think
this.
This
whole
thing
is
part
of
the
whole
yeah
globalist
lie.
K
I
have
a
problem
with
the
word:
affordable,
housing,
I,
don't
know
who's
going
to
be
moving
into
our
neighborhood
and
then
also
with
the
traffic
there's
tons
of
traffic
going
out
on
Hubbard
from
Pleasant
Valley,
Road
and
10
Mile
Creek
and
people
treat
the
road
like
a
freeway,
and
you
know:
I've
had
people
tailgate
me
and
yell
at
me,
and
I've
actually
called
the
sheriff's
department
to
have
them
Patrol
that
road,
because
somebody
was
cussing
at
me
and
I
was
going
the
speed
limit
and
they
were
on
my
tail
I'm
just
worried.
K
This
could
be
more
of
that.
You
know
with
all
the
with
all
the
traffic
people
treating
Hubbard
Road
and
to
Mile
Creek
like
a
freeway,
it's
already
being
treated
that
way.
A
L
You
Mr
chairman
Commissioners,
Richard
Boardman,
my
wife
and
I
live
at
999
Cow
Horse
Drive
in
Ada
County.
We
are
about
a
third
of
a
mile
to
the
east
of
Cloverdale
Road
right
across
from
Falcon
Crest
golf
course
I
particularly
want
to,
and
one
of
my
major
concerns
is
about
the
traffic,
but
I'm
actually
going
to
start
off
discussing
something
that
I,
don't
I,
haven't,
heard
and
I've
tracked
this
and
been
in
front
of
the
Board
of
Commissioners
last
year
that
I'm,
not
sure
has
been
brought
out
and
I.
L
L
This
development
and
I
know
at
least
one
of
the
Commissioners
said
they
were
familiar
with.
The
area
is
set
down
in
a
small
Valley,
it's
a
beautiful
little
Valley
right
now.
Of
course,
we
all
like
the
Aesthetics
of
cattle
grazing
on
Green
Grass
and
all
that,
but
to
the
northeast
of
this
property,
is
what
I
understand
from
my
professional
experience,
which
I'm
now
retired
from
to
be
the
most
productive
aggregate
Source
in
the
Treasure
Valley,
there's
more
over
towards
the
west
by
the
river.
L
But
this
source
of
aggregate
is
huge
in
fact
about
a
mile
to
the
southeast
of
the
border
of
this
development.
There
is
a
sign
that
I
took
a
picture
of
I
can
send
it
to
any
of
you
if
you
haven't
driven
out
there,
property
of
Ada,
County,
Highway,
District,
aggregate
source,
gravel,
crushing
and
stockpiling
operations
anticipated
through
the
year
2090..
L
This
is
very
productive,
stockpiled
aggregate,
which
we
know
is
the
basis
for
the
development
in
this
Valley.
There
are
hundreds
of
gravel
trucks,
literally
hundreds
of
gravel
trucks
that
go
down.
Hubbard,
Road
and
10
Mile,
Creek,
Road,
much
less
I'm
sure
a
Pleasant
Valley
Road,
although
I
don't
travel
that
much
to
get
to
these
aggregate
sources.
There
are
above
and
beyond
achds
own
site.
There
are
many
others.
All
you
have
to
do
is
drive
up.
Pleasant
Valley
Road
from
gallon
to
the
prison
and
you'll
see
them
all.
L
Now
the
question
I
would
say
to
the
developers
is
down
in
this
little
Valley,
where
there's
no
views
of
any
mountains.
Why
would
anybody
want
to
buy
a
house
adjacent
to
a
gravel
pit,
multiple
gravel
sources
with
all
that
traffic?
That
is
going
to
go
on
for
years
and
years?
But
that's
that's
for
them.
L
I
I
will
the
traffic
impact
study
Mr
Jorgenson
I'm,
the
one
that
questioned
in
front
of
the
Commissioners,
whether
or
not
the
traffic
impact
study
included
the
impact
of
the
Falcon
Crest
development.
L
He
assured
me:
we
had
a
nice
conversation
after
our
meeting
in
front
of
the
or
the
the
Board
of
Commissioners
meeting,
and
he
assured
me
that
he
had
told
Kimberly
horn
that
that
had
to
be
included
the
funny
thing
I
see
now
I
contacted
Compass.
They
said
we
don't
know
if
everything
coming
out
of
Falcon
Crest
in
terms
of
traffic
impact
in
their
future
2300
homes.
In
addition
to
this
2700
homes
is
included
in
the
projections.
L
I
then
called
Ada,
County
and
I
got
a
very
quick
answer.
Well,
it
must
be
because
there
is
an
Ada
County,
Highway,
District
regulation
that
says
you've
got
to
include
everything
what
I
don't
see
and
the
the
traffic
impact
statement
like
you
folks
get
exposed
to
a
lot.
It's
mind-numbing
stuff,
let's
all
face
it.
I,
don't
see
anything
in
that
that
makes
reference
to
anything
other
than
2021
traffic
counts,
whether
it
was
projected
I,
don't
know,
and
I
certainly
am
not
calling
Mr
Jorgensen,
where
he
just
represented
that
it
is
included
in
there.
L
But
wouldn't
you
think
that
Kimberly
Horn's
June
2023
traffic
impact
statement
would
make
mention
of
that.
I
asked
the
Board
of
Commissioners,
whether
that
was
the
case
and
whether
they
could
question
it.
Nobody
did
I'm
still
concerned,
there's
going
to
be
5
000
new
homes
within
two
miles,
radius,
I'm
sure.
If
you
were
in
my
wife
and
my
position,
my
family's
position,
5
000
homes,
you
would
want
to
make
sure
the
traffic
impact
statements
were
accurate.
Thank.
M
A
D
Mr
chair,
Commissioners
I
have
nothing
to
add.
Unless
commission
has
questions,
okay,.
B
F
D
Chair
commissioner,
Litman
yeah
the
traffic
impact
study,
we
we
rely
on
achd
to
review
those.
They
have
a
set
standard
on.
What's
what's
required
to
be
included
in
those,
and
so
it's
again
the
applicant
hired
a
transportation
firm
to
to
prepare
that
an
achd
staff
reviewed
it
I
know
with
the
first
one,
Ice
Age
staff
asked
for
additional
information
several
times,
there's
a
certain
threshold
of
information.
D
They
need
to
to
approve
it
and
they
determined
that
the
Trap
the
trafficked
impacts
that
included
everything
they
they
required,
and
it
was
my
understanding
that
it
did
include
the
The
Valor
planned
community.
Of
course,
a
lot
of
that's
already
been
planted,
so
it
definitely
include
platted
Lots,
but
I.
Guess,
aside
from
that
I,
would
we
defer
to
achd
on
the
details
of
a
study
like
that?
Thank.
F
C
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
Mr
Moore,
just
there's
going
to
be
two
elementary
schools
in
here
and
they're,
estimating
about
1300
students
and
for
this
project.
They
did
these
other
developments
that
are
around
there.
Has
anybody
ever
mentioned,
or
looked
at
what
the
impact
would
be
on
the
middle
schools
and
the
high
schools
in
the
area.
D
E
And
maybe
this
is
a
better
question
for
the
applicant,
but
with
achd
didn't
achd
as
far
as
monitoring
the
traffic
before
each
development
or
each
phase
of
this
is
going
on,
I
believe
it
was
in
there
that
they
have
to
be
remonitored
on
the
traffic
studies
throughout
that
process.
Is
that
correct.
D
Mr,
commission
Nicholson
that's
correct,
as
mentioned
once
before.
They
can
receive
final
applied
approval
for
their
350th
lot.
So
just
a
little
over
a
half
of
these
residential
office
they'll
need
to
submit
an
updated
traffic
impact
study
to
again
look
at
those
intersections
and
then
for
each
additional
preliminary
preliminary
plan
they'll
submit
in
a
new,
updated
traffic
impact
study.
So
they'll
continue
to
submit
updated
traffic
to
impact
studies
as
as
the
development
progresses.
So.
E
It's
pretty
I
to
me
it's.
It
makes
sense
that
even
with
the
other
developments,
even
if
these
other
developments
as
they
grow
the
other
developments
and
they
do
impact
the
study
because
Valor
or
whatever
will
probably
be
out
built
before
they
are,
which
means
if
the
traffic
does
increase.
Unfortunately,
spring
rock
is
going
to
have
to
make
the
adjustments
based
off
Ada
County
Highway
District,
as
that
impact,
would
that
be
a
safe
and.
E
D
Correct
and
Mr
chair,
commissioner
Nicholson
that's
correct
with
each
updated
traffic
to
impact
study.
Of
course,
they
would
take
into
consideration
any
new
development.
That's
occurred
or
been
preliminary
approved,
as
that'll
include
Valor,
planned
Community,
potentially
those
other
planned
communities
in
Boise
they're,
just
over
a
mile
away,
so
yeah
each
updated
impact
study
would
take
into
account
okay,
a
new
development.
Thank.
I
I
I
just
have
a
question
on
the
so
is:
is:
is
there
something
like
similar
to
the
triggers
for
traffic
in
place
for
water
like,
or
is
this
just
a
one
and
done
we're
good
to
go?
D
Place
Mr
chair,
commissioner,
stop
there's
nothing
similar
to
the
trafficked
impact
studies
with
the
potable
water
again
it'll
be
up
to
violia
Idaho
Department
of
Water
Resources,
potentially
a
Public
Utility
Commission.
Just
a
vla
will
have
to
approve
the
water
for
each
phase,
but
they
have
indicated
they
have
enough
to
serve
the
entire
development
and
there's
additional
water
they
can
draw,
as
so,
there
won't
be
additional
steps
but
up
to
violi
on
the
on
the
potable
water.
Okay,.
F
D
F
N
You
could
take
the
the
easy
way
out,
not
read
verbatim
rent,
slides.
F
C
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
I'm,
going
to
piggyback
off
of
commissioner
coulson's
question.
If,
in
the
future,
if
achg
is
doing
their
their
survey
on
an
additional
later
phase
and
find
out
that
traffic
is
just
out
of
control,
what
do
you
see
is
the
effect
on
the
developer?
What
what
are
the
steps
that
would
take
place?
Mr.
D
Chick
commissioner
Wickstrom
they
couldn't
require
additional
off-site
improvements,
so
we
I
went
over
the
ones
they're
requiring
at
this
point.
Those
Road
widenings
turn
Lanes.
So
if
traffic
increases
they
could
just
require
additional
off-site
mitigations,
like
maybe
other
intersections
they'd,
require
signals
or
turn
Lanes.
So.
A
G
Good
evening,
Commissioners
again
Davey
orgason
for
the
record
I'll
just
speak
to
my
reputation.
I'm
kind
of
shaken
a
little
bit
here,
I
been
developing
the
valley
for
over
25
years.
You
can
ask
anybody
as
I
speak
to
you
today.
That's
how
I
speak
to
people
I'll
just
leave
it
with
that.
As
far
as
comments
or
concerns,
I
did
say
that
there
were
negative
comments.
I
did
not
say
the
word,
no
negative
comments.
I
think
we've
addressed
and
heard
some
of
them
tonight.
G
I've
heard
very
clearly
some
of
the
comments
about
traffic
Wildlife
housing.
Wildlife,
specifically,
we've
already
stayed.
There's
a
conservation
committee
will
be
in
place
third
party,
not
in
our
control,
and
they
will
ensure
that
all
mitigations
are
are
treated
both
on
site
and
off-site.
Likewise
with
traffic
I.
Maybe
I
want
to
take
a
step
back
and
share
how
that
process
works
in
a
traffic
impact
study.
They
study
a
variety
of
things.
They
asked
us
to
even
complicate
it
further.
They
look
at
existing
traffic.
G
It's
okay,
what's
called
background
traffic,
which
is
all
approved
development,
and
then
you
look
at
the
impacts
of
this
development
after
you've.
Taken
consideration,
existing
and
approved
development,
and
so
I
did
go
to
Compass.
I
went
to
achd
both
and
I
have
an
email
that
was
submitted
a
while
ago,
but
we
can
dig
it
out
if
you
need
to
it
almost
doesn't
matter,
because
we
have
to
do
it
again
in
350
Lots,
we
have
to
redo
all
the
traffic
counts.
G
We
have
to
redo
the
studies
which
will
again
include
all
approved
development
and
so
that
that's
how
that
works.
So
certainly
new
traffic
counts
if
they're
not
fresh
they'll
have
to
be
redone
as
required
by
achd.
So
we
have
that
condition
in
the
staff
report
very
clearly
identified
and
that's
for
this
preliminary
plan.
This
preliminary
plant
only
covers
about
600
residential
units,
not
the
whole
entire
project.
G
When
we
come
back
to
you
for
area
b
or
area
C
and
D,
we'll
do
it
again,
and
so
we
have
numerous
redo
of
the
traffic
impact
study
to
ensure
that
whatever
those
off-site
improvements
are
required,
as
stated
by
staff
widening
of
Cloverdale
widening
Cloverdale
intersections
at
you
pick
it
Columbia,
whatever
Hubbard,
of
course,
or
go
the
other
direction
as
identified
earlier
as
well.
The
phasing
of
those
improvements
will
be
burdened
upon
this
development
to
do,
if
we
don't
do
them,
we
don't
move
forward.
G
Acc
will
not
approve
our
project,
assignor
Lots,
so
we're
stuck
so
we're
obligated
to
those
improvements.
I
recognize
the
comments
about.
Let's
see
here,
monitoring
existing
Wells
I
appreciate
the
recognition.
We
have
a
condition
of
approval
in
the
staff
report,
as
required
by
the
County
engineer,
to
ensure
we
Monitor
and
existing
well
on
site
to
to
I
want
to
say
it's
a
guarantee,
but
it's
a
monitoring.
G
It's
more
data
to
help
give
that
Assurance,
but
what
the
maths
is
telling
us
and
what
the
high
level
look
is
we're
not
taking
we're,
not
drilling
new
wells
to
the
site,
we're
not
drilling
new
wells
to
take
out
more
water
out
of
this
finite
resource,
but
rather
using.
Let
me
take
a
step
back.
Violia
had
already
identified
this
area
as
a
planning
area.
We
were
in
their
certificated
planning
area
with
Department
of
Water
Resources
years
ago,
so
they
already
planned
on
serving
this
area
with
existing
water
rights
years
ago.
G
We're
just
utilizing
that
infrastructure
bringing
in
a
water
line
two
to
tie
in
for
for
consistency
as
they're
requiring
so
that
that
capacity
is
there
reading
through
my
notes,
I,
don't
know
if
I
have
any
other
further
comments
other
than
we
appreciate
your
time.
We
know.
There's
a
lot
to
discuss.
I
I
will
answer
any
of
the
questions
you
have.
That's
really
been
our
approach
to
seek
to
listen
to
answer
those
questions
but
bottom
line.
We
do
ask
for
your
approval.
G
F
G
Mr,
chairman
and
commissioner,
that's
why
I
made
the
comment
earlier
to
commissioner
Scott.
We
acknowledge
and
that's
why
we're
putting
it
around
about
and
that's
why
we're
doing
some
widening
on
the
first
phase,
not
waiting
until
300
homes
were
built,
we're
doing
initial
widening
of
that
10
Mile
Creek
Road,
because
we
know
that
there's
gravel
trucks,
there's
cars
and
there's
bikers
that
enjoy
traveling
through
there
as
we're
trying
to
to
improve
the
safety
of
that
on
the
front
end,
as
opposed
to
waiting
for
more
houses
to
even
pay
for
it.
C
One
more
please,
commissioner,
thank
you,
Mr
chairman,
just
brief,
just
kind
of
it
helps
you
see,
get
a
time
frame.
I
know
you
build
out
by
2040
your
phase,
one
and
then
the
time
to
takes
to
prep
the
ground
and
all
that
through
you're,
looking
at
100
houses,
120
houses
a
year,
maybe
that
you're
going
to
sell
and
then
a
year
a
year
and
a
half
two
years
to
prep
the
prep,
the
ground,
yeah.
G
Thank
you
for
the
question
Mr
chairman.
If
I
could
and
address
Mr
Wix
from
commissioner
Wickstrom
area
a
well
back
up
to
answer
your
question.
We
plan
on
starting
construction
in
the
summer,
but
it's
not
a
quick
build.
We
won't
have
our
first
start
until
of
homes
in
2025.
Probably
there's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
time
to
build
that
sewer,
treatment
and
Paving
will
be
the
early
spring
of
2025
I'm
guessing
so
the
first
resident
would
be
the
end
of
2025..
It's
just
kind
of
a
guess.
G
If
you
have
three
different
types
of
housing,
you
tend
to
get
two
to
three
times
faster
absorption
in
in
the
build
out,
and
so
you
might
think
of
this
way
about
every
four
to
five
years
will
bring
another
permanent
plant
to
you.
Recognizing
the
first
one
might
go
sorry.
The
second
one
might
come
a
little
quicker
behind
the
first
one,
just
because
of
the
timing
and
the
phasing
of
that.
G
But
then,
as
we
get
that
second
primary
plant
behind,
maybe
three
years
from
now,
then
about
every
four
or
five
years
later,
we'll
have
another
one
coming
behind.
So
so
I
do
believe
it's
approximately
100
200
some
years
could
be
300
homes
in
in
a
year,
but
but
it's
about
a
20
to
year
build
out
I
I,
don't
know
where
interest
rates
are
going
to
be
tomorrow
if
I
knew
I'd
be
a
little
stronger.
G
My
my
my
my
analysis,
I
can
tell
you
that
we
built
into
housing
recessions
into
the
model,
and
so
so
we're
anticipating
slow
down
Cycles
throughout
as
well.
G
G
A
C
E
A
C
You
Mr
chairman
I'll,
go
through
the
the
pluses
first
I
when
this
I
think,
if
this
is
maybe
something
along
the
lines
of
Harris
Ranch
or
some
other
master
plan,
community
and
I
think
it'll
it'll
be
very
nice
I,
like
the
idea
that
they
have
their
own
sewer
system,
that
they're
taking
care
of
they're
could
be
using
Wastewater
to
help
with
your
irrigation
they've
thought
about
a
lot
of
things.
C
You
know:
they've
had
the
agreements
with
fire
sheriff
and
paramedics
I'd,
like
the
idea
that
every
every
phase
that
they
have
there's
going
to
have
to
be
a
traffic
impact
study,
and
that's
one
of
the
big
concerns
is
what
is
the
traffic
going
to
be
like
in
that
area?
And
it's
going
to
change
over
time
with
those
other
developments.
E
Yeah
I
think
it's
a
great
project.
I,
you
know,
live
out
in
the
area
and
I.
You
know
again:
I
don't
want
growth
as
much
either
and
but
it's
I
think
it
accommodates
every
aspect
of
it.
I
like
how
it
again
it
is
taking
everybody
into
consideration.
It's
you
know
commercial,
it's
schools,
it's
a
park.
You
know
it's
got
lower,
lower
housing
price,
affordable
housing.
You
know
it
is
a
very
vague
area,
especially
right
now
on
what
affordable
house
it
gives.
E
But
looking
at
the
town,
homes
and
that
type
of
stuff
I
mean
that's
what
it's
coming
to
to
get
to
that
affordable
housing-
and
you
know
the
all
the
way
to
the
broad
spectrum
of
things.
I
think
it's
really
great
for
the
community.
E
The
fire
to
Bringing,
In,
The
Firehouse
is
is
not
only
going
to
help
them,
but
it's
going
to
help
everybody
in
the
community
in
itself
by
you
know:
they're
lowering
their
fire
insurance
and
and
not
out
there
I
love
how
they've
taken
everything
into
consideration
and
even
taken
their
sewer
treatment
plants
and
turned
it
into
water
that
they
can
re
put
back
into
the
aquifer.
E
A
A
A
Thank
you
very
much,
I
think
we're
ready
for
a
vote.
All
those
in
favor
of
the
motion,
please
say:
aye
aye
I
also
say
aye,
any
opposed
all
right.
The
motion
passes.
We
run
to
very
much
appreciate
the
time
of
the
applicant
and
those
who
have
come
here
to
testify
this
evening.
Thank
you
all
right.
We're
now
ready
for
our
next
project,
which
is
number.
A
H
I
P
I
Take
a
break
having
some
what's
going
on
technical.
F
I
I
F
A
B
O
The
property
contains
30.37
acres
is
located
at
6001,
West,
Hubbard
Road,
the
property
is
east
of
kuna
or
excuse
me,
west
of
kuna
and
just
east
of
ADA
Canyon
County
Line.
The
subdivision
will
consists
of
three
lots.
A
lot
one
will
consist
of
approximately
10
acres
and
lots.
Two
and
three
will
consist
of
approximately
10.19
Acres
each.
The
applicant
has
also
applied
for
a
private
road
and
all
three
lots
will
take
French
in
access
from
the
proposed
private
road,
and
you
can
kind
of
see
here
at
the
private.
O
There
is
a
single
family
dwelling
in
agricultural
structure
that
was
recently
constructed
on
the
property,
and
this
is
going
to
be
on
lot
two,
and
this
is
the
existing
shop
right
here
in
the
existing
home.
The
subdivision
complies
with
chapter
8-6.
Today,
County
codes
as
the
proposed
Lots
comply
at
the
dimensional
standards
for
the
rural
residential
district.
The
subdivision
is
also
in
compliance
with
the
Cuna
comprehensive
plan
as
the
as
adopted
by
a
county
as
it
complies
with
the
agriculture
future
land
use.
Designation,
as
the
proposed
lots
are
conducive
to
small-scale
agricultural
use.
O
It
should
be
known
that
the
subject
property
is
located
within
the
Ada
Canyon
nitrate
priority
area
in
this
priority
area
covers
a
large
area
of
Southwest,
a
County
as
well
as
Southeast
Canyon
County,
extending
from
Boise
to
Napa
and
Meridian
to
malba
ground
war
with
nitrates
can
be
treated
through
reverse
osmosis
distillation
and
ion
exchange
systems.
There
have
been
no
neighbor
comments
on
this
application.
O
R
R
Think
it's
a
governmental
action
who
are
allowed
to
go
below
the
10
acre
minimum,
so
they're
revised
prelimary
plaid
is
the
next
slide
in
its
functioning
the
same
just
a
little
bit
smaller,
so
still
accessed
off
a
private
road
coming
from
Hubbard
there's
an
existing
home.
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
some
colors
to
look
at
there's
an
existing
home,
some
animal
paddocks,
some
existing
well
septic
system
and
other
facilities
that
were
constructed
recently
with
the
home.
That's
at
the
southeast
corner
of
the
property,
so
I'll
keep
it
brief.
R
F
A
F
Ask
at
your
neighborhood
meeting:
did
anybody
come
and
do
they
have
any
comments
and
what
kinds
of
questions
did
they
have.
R
Mr
chair,
commissioner
blitman:
yes,
we
actually
had
I
think
six
to
seven
Neighbors
come
we
held
it
out
at
the
site,
so
folks
kind
of
just
walked
over
and
they
were
just
curious.
What
was
going
on?
They
were
excited
that
it
was
just
going
to
be
10
acre
minimum
Lots.
They
were
concerned
that
it
could
be
something
more
dense,
so
the
property
owner
is
partnered
with
I.
Think
it's
a
business
partner
of
his
and
he's
actually
going.
R
F
O
And
Mr
chairman
the
applicants
presentation
on
the
exhibit
number
34.:
okay.
A
I
Based
on
the
based
upon
the
findings
of
facts
inclusions
herein
and
the
testimony
from
the
public
hearing,
I
recommend
the
commission
approves
project.
C
O
Mr
chairman,
commissioner,
will
extremist,
so
there
is
a
the
new
one
that
the
applicant
you
know
just
kind
of
brought
up,
and
so
you
may
in
your
motion
just
say
the
the
plenary
plot
that
was
presented
at
the
public
hearing
this
evening
and
then
that
would
address
the
public
hearing
that
the
applicant
just
present
to
you.
C
I
The
revised
plaid,
as
discussed
in
the
meeting
today
and.
A
B
A
A
A
O
Mr
chairman
and
Commissioners
project
number
2023-01358,
CU
Dash
MSP
is
a
conditional
use
and
master
cycling.
Application
for
violias
Columbia
take
number
two
project
which
includes
a
water
storage,
tank,
inlet
and
Outlet
transmission
lines,
Control
building
and
an
overflow
line
and
pond
the
property
contains.
160
acres
is
located
off
East
Freight,
Street
West
of
Eisman
Road
interchange.
The
project
is
located
just
within
a
small
portion
of
the
property
in
the
area
where
the
property
is
located
is
highlighted
by
the
white
right
white
triangle
and
then
just
to
the
west
of
the
white
triangle.
O
Is
the
existing
Columbia
number
one
water
tank
there
proposed
improvements
to
this
project
include
constructing
a
6.7
million,
gallon
storage
tank
24
inch,
Inlet,
Outlet
transmission
lines,
15
inch,
diameter,
overflow
line
and
approximately
420
square
foot
Control
building
and
a
1
million
gallon
overflow
Pond.
The
project
will
connect
to
Viola's
existing
transmission
line
and
will
increase
water
storage
and
delivery
capabilities.
O
Based
on
the
50-year
projected
population
forecast.
The
proposed
tank
is
at
an
elevation
that
maintains
appropriate
pressure
levels
in
the
existing
distribution
system.
The
facility
will
operate
24,
7
and
there'll,
be
one
employee
visit
per
day
for
maintenance.
The
applicant's
requested
approval
of
an
alternative
landscape
plan.
The
alternative
landscape
plan
shows
that
the
North,
south
and
east
of
perimeter
of
the
facility
will
be
planned
with
two
types
of
coniferous
trees,
along
with
shrubs.
O
In
addition,
they'll
be
a
rock
mulch
placed
in
the
landscape
area,
along
with
a
pollinator
Meadow
seed
mix,
staff
finds
that
the
alternative
landscape
plan
is
Justified
as
the
tower
is
in
a
secluded
location
and
is
not
visible
from
the
public
roadway.
You
can
kind
of
see
on
the
footer
on
the
screen,
I've
kind
of
highlighted
where
the
proposed
Tower
will
be
and
where
the
existing
Terror
will
be,
and
just
from
Freight
Street.
You
can't
even
see
the
existing
Tower.
You
know
from
the
the
access
point
to
the
site.
O
There
were
no
comments
from
the
public
on
this
application.
None
of
the
agencies
that
have
replied
to
the
application
have
raised
any
objections
to
it.
The
applicant
did
make
a
requested
change
the
condition
of
approval
number
16..
This
condition
states
that
the
applicant
and
orders
shall
comply
with
adapa
58-01-01
rules
for
the
control
of
air
pollution
by
controlling
fugitive
deaths
is
required
by
the
Idaho
Department
of
Environmental
Quality.
O
The
applicant
is
explanations
see
that
they
will
have
a
section
in
their
construction
specifications
requiring
the
contractor
to
prepare
a
store,
more
pollution
prevention
plan
that
will
contain
requirements
through
death's
abatement
per
adapa,
58-01-01
vpa's,
storm
water
pollution
prevention
plan
guidance
requires
measures
for
decibayment
and
they
prefer
to
have
one
document:
the
store,
more
pollution
prevention
plan
that
addresses
both
desk
abatement
and
stormwater
controls.
Hence
the
fugitive
dust
Plans
Incorporated
as
part
of
the
storm
War
pollution
prevention
plan
staff
review.
This
proposal
with
the
associate
County
engineer,
and
he
found
this
proposal
to
be
acceptable.
O
Staff
is
supportive
of
the
modification
to
condition
of
approval
number
16.
staff
ends
of
this
application
applies
with
a
county
code.
It
recommends
approval
to
the
commission
a
set
on
the
professor
facts
in
conclusions
of
Law,
and
this
presentation
will
be
exhibit
number
33
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
A
C
A
L
P
My
name
is
Russell
Brooks,
4112,
North,
Julian
way
in
Boise,
Idaho
and
I'm.
A
senior
project
engineer
for
bla
water
and
I've
been
overseeing
this
project
and
then
I
brought
along
with
me,
Brandon
Keller,
with
Keller
and
Associates
they're,
our
consultant
who's
done
the
design
of
the
tank
and
what
staff
had
had
mentioned.
I
agree
with
all
of
that
of
that
thing,
and
this
kind
of
goes
back
to
there
was
a
question
earlier
about
violia,
and
you
know
how
do
we
maintain
our
water
supplies?
P
How
do
we
know
these
things
and
idapacode
requires
that
water
systems
submit
a
master
water
plan
to
DEQ
every
five
years,
and
so
every
five
years
we're
looking
at
growth
rates.
We're
looking
at
demands
all
of
those
things
we
put
them
together
and
we
come.
We
come
up
with
a
a
capital
Improvement
list,
and
this
project
here
was
a
main
one
on
the
capital
Improvement
list
we're
seeing
that
we
needed
more
water
for
the
airport
area.
P
You
know
the
industrial
areas
that
you've
seen
grow
along
Gowen
and
all
of
that-
and
so
that's
what
this
project
is
about-
is
bringing
that
part
of
the
system
up.
It's
going
to
provide
fire
flow,
increased
fireflow
for
for
those
facilities,
it's
gonna
bring
more
water
for
peaking
and
demands
in
the
area
and
that's
the
purpose.
F
P
Right,
yes,
commissioner,
blitman
and
chairman,
we
had
one
gentleman
that
was
the
property
owner
behind
of
the
development
that
showed
up,
and
he
already
was
aware
of
the
project,
because
when
we
asked
for
easement
land
in
that
area,
he
was
advised
that
we
were
coming
to
ask
for
the
water
tank.
It's
not
on
his
property,
but
he's
directly
to
the
South.
So
he
was
the
one
gentleman
that
showed
up
and
really
just
asked
what
the
project
was
about.
He
had
pushed
for
landscaping
around
the
tank.
P
That's
why
you
see
the
landscaping
around
the
tank,
whereas
we
have
an
existing
tank
directly
to
the
West.
That's
just
Sagebrush
and
nothing
around
it,
but
I
think
his
words
were.
He
was
there
to
make
sure
we
were,
you
know,
upholding
our
part
of
the
bargain
and
we
were
going
to
put
in
the
landscape.
So
that
was
the
one
one
person.
A
Further
questions
all
right,
rather
than
have
you
sit
down,
we'll
just
ask
any
further
questions
from
Mr
Danielson
no
Mr
chairman
I
mean
four
of
the
Commissioners
for
Mr
Daniels
I'm.
Sorry,.
A
I
Other
than
I,
just
like
that
they're
Landscaping,
it's
going
to
be
a
nice
little
island
of
landscape
in
the
middle
of
nowhere,
so
other
than
that.
It's
a
priest
report
again.
So,
okay.
A
F
A
O
O
2023-01495Zc--D-A-V-Ac
is
a
zone
change
from
the
rural
urban
transition
District
to
the
state
residential
district,
a
development
agreement,
variance
and
assessment
used
for
the
construction
of
a
secondary
dwelling
in
an
accessory
structure
is
greater
than
1500
square
feet.
The
property
contains
one
acre
is
located
at
2022
25
North,
Lanewood
Road.
The
property
is
located
in
the
eagle
area,
north
of
flowing
feather
road
and
west
of
Linder
Road.
The
applicants
requested
to
rezone
one
acre
from
the
rural
event
transition
District
to
the
state
residential
district.
O
The
future
land
use
map
of
the
eagle
comprehensive
plan
is
a
docked
by
a
county
designated
society
as
a
residential
2,
which
is
primarily
attended
for
single-family
residential
development
at
densities
of
up
to
one
dual
unit
per
acre
is
which
is
compatible
with
the
comprehensive
plan,
the
subject
properties,
a
legal
non-conforming
property
and
that
does
not
comply
with
the
minimum
parcel
size
of
five
acres
for
the
rural
urban
transition.
District.
O
The
property
is
one
acre
in
size,
which
is
the
minimum
lot
size
for
the
estate
residential
district.
The
applicant
has
requested
to
rezone
the
property
to
the
R1
District,
because
the
interior
side,
property
line
setback
is
10
feet
in
the
state
residential
district
where
at
whereas
is
25
feet
in
the
rural
urban
transition.
District
resilient,
the
property
to
the
state
residential
district
will
allow
them
to
build
closer
to
the
interior
side,
property
lines
and
basically
the
interior
side
interior
side.
Probably
Alliance
would
be
like
the
northern
property
line
here
and
then
the
southern
property
line.
O
Here
the
rezone
is
conducive
to
the
existing
situation
of
the
property,
as
residential
situations
have
been
developed
on
three
sides
of
the
subject:
property,
the
adjacent
residential
lots
range
in
size
from
a
little
more
than
a
quarter
of
an
acre
to
less
than
half
an
acre.
In
addition,
the
property
can
connect
to
the
eagle
Sewer
District,
the
Jason
zoning
districts
allow
two
and
three
joint
ants
per
acre.
O
O
The
applicant
has
applied
for
an
accessory
use,
application
to
construct
a
1200
square
foot
secondary
dwelling
within
a
2
800
square
foot
accessory
structure
and
then
I've
highlighted
on
the
screen
here:
kind
of
the
location,
the
secondary
dwelling.
So
the
secondary
dwelling
is
low
chaos
near
Lane,
wood
kind
of
in
the
North
excuse
northeast
corner
of
the
property,
and
then
they
are
playing
eventually
I'm.
O
Building
a
single-family
dwelling,
that's
closer
to
Montage
Court,
which
would
be
in
the
south
west
portion
of
the
property
on
the
secondary
drawing
will
house
the
property
owners,
parents
and
then
the
rest
of
the
accessory
structure
will
consists
of
a
shop
and
garage
space.
O
The
proposed
a
secondary
drawing
is
1200
square
feet
which
currently
exceeds
the
maximum
allowable
footprint
of
900
square
feet
that
is
currently
allowed
for
secondary
dwelling.
The
applicant
has
applied
for
variants
to
allow
for
the
secondary
dwelling
to
exceed
the
maximum
allowable
footprint
of
900
square
feet.
O
If
the
project
is
fully
approved,
the
applicant
will
need
to
revise
their
site
plan
so
that
the
structure
complies
with
the
30-foot
setback
for
a
property
line
adjacent
to
a
collector
Street
as
Lane
wood
is
a
collector
Street.
Since
the
staff
report
was
published,
a
few
neighbors
have
contacted
staff
expressed
concerns
about
the
project.
There
seems
to
be
some
miscommunication
regarding
kind
of
was
getting
built.
It
appears
to
me
that
the
neighbors
want
more
specifics
of
what
is
going
to
be
built
on
the
property.
O
O
It
should
be
known
that
the
average
single-family
residence
only
generates
10
vehicle
trips
per
day,
which
will
not
cause
an
undue
burden
on
on
the
existing
residential
streets.
Within
that
subdivision,
that's
to
the
west
of
the
subject
property.
O
Ultimately,
it
is
the
according
to
the
site
plan
the
yet
should
be
built.
Primary
dwelling
will
take
access
from
Montage
Court,
whereas
the
secondary
dwelling
will
take
access
from
Lane
wood.
The
streets
within
the
subdivision
are
owned
and
maintained
by
the
County
Highway
District,
which
means
that
every
property
owner
within
the
county
is
paying
to
maintain
Montage
court
and
the
other
streets
within
that
neighborhood.
O
O
In
addition,
the
a
County
Highway
District
driveway
abuts,
the
subject
property,
as
shown
on
the
map
here,
and
also
it's
also
shown
on
the
Lilac
Springs
number
two
citation
plot
that
the
right
of
way
abuts
the
subject
property
when
Montage
Court
was
constructed.
A
driveway
apron
was
constructed
at
the
end
of
the
cul-de-sac
to
the
subject
property,
as
shown
in
the
photo
here.
O
A
building
permit
for
a
principal
for
any
dwelling
was
submitted
a
a
few
months
ago
by
a
previous
property
owner,
and
talking
with
the
applicant
after
the
staff
report
was
published.
I
learned
that
the
current
property
owners
are
no
longer
going
to
build
to
those
plans
but
we'll
be
submitting
new
building
plans
for
the
principally
premier
dwelling
that
they
would
like
to
build
on
the
property.
O
So,
on
page,
two
of
the
draft
findings
effect
there's
a
couple
of
changes
that
need
to
be
made.
So
on
page
two,
where
it
says
the
existing
structure
structure
section
needs
to
be
changed
to
none
and
then
the
on
the
finding.
O
There
are
no
agencies
that
have
replied
to
this
application
that
have
raised
objections
to
the
application.
Staff
concludes
that
the
zoning
ordinance
map,
Amendment
and
development
agreement
complies
with
a
county
code
and
recommends
approval
of
these
applications
to
the
commission.
However,
staff
concludes
that
the
assessory
use
application
does
not
comply
with
the
a
county
code
as
the
proposed
secondary
dwelling
seats,
the
allowable
footprint
900
square
feet
and
therefore
recommends
denial
of
the
assessor
use
application.
O
C
For
me,
my
question:
thank
you,
Mr
chairman
Mr
Danielson,
when
there's
no
mention
of
the
Casita
at
all
and
throughout
this
whole
report,
and
it's
a
1500
foot
structure
with
a
garage
does
that
come
into
play
as
far
as
into
this
87-12
800
8
712
square
feet,
calculation.
O
So
Mr,
chairman
and
and
commissioner
Wexford,
so
what's
the
Casita
the
applicant
would
need
to
to
apply
for
that
under
a
separate
application,
so
kind
of
when
I
was
doing
the
math.
Obviously
Brian
the
fine
draft
flying
is
effect.
You
know.
I
had
noticed
that
too,
that
the
casino
will
eventually
go
over
the
maximum
lot
coverage.
O
So
when
they
apply
for
the
cassia
structure,
you
know
they
would
either
need
to
reduce
the
square
footage
of
the
accessory
structure
that
would
have
the
Casita
or
they'll
have
to
apply
for
a
variance,
and
that
would
have
to
go
in
front
of
the
board
of
County
Commissioners
for
them
to
exceed
the
maximum
lock
coverage.
That's
allowed
in
the
R1
District.
C
And
then
just
one
last
question,
so
we're
gonna,
it's
gonna,
be
an
R1,
not
that
R2,
our
residential
two
Zoning
for
the
it's
on
the
future
land
use
we're
looking
at
it
as
an
R1.
That's
correct!
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman,
any.
E
So
you
guys
are
good
with
everything
on
this
application,
except
for
them
going
over
the
minimum
900
square
feet
on
the
secondary
dwelling.
Is
that.
O
Correct
Mr
chairman
commissioner
Coulson.
That's
correct,
okay,
thank
you.
A
B
A
O
O
A
O
Mr
chairman
for
for
a
shop,
you
know
with
an
accessory
structure,
so
basically
we
will
typically
have
the
zoning
certificate
that
it
has.
It
can't
be
used
for
commercial
or
industrial
purpose,
and
so
this
is
so.
The
accessory
structures
would
be
accessory
to
the
prime
memory,
drawing
that's
on
the
property
and
so
typically
with
a
shop.
That's
an
accessory
structure.
Typically,
it's
going
to
be
for
storage
of
their
own
vehicles
or,
if
they're
doing
an
automotive
hobby.
So
let's
say
they
like
to
fix
up
classic
cars.
O
You
know
that
would
be
kind
of
a
use
that
would
be
allowed
in
that
shop
or
if
they
wanted
to
just
store
their.
You
know
utvs.
You
know
things
like
that
and
they
can
that's
allowed
if
they're
wanting
to
run
a
business
from
the
shop
that
would
not
be
allowed.
So
if
they
were,
you
know
having
people
bring
cars
to
the
shop
to
fix.
That
would
be
a
commercial
automobile.
You
know
service
facility
which
would
be
not
be
allowed
on
the
in
that
zoning
District.
Thank.
A
I
And
maybe
I
misheard,
you,
but
you
said
that
on
page
two
we
are
to.
Are
we
too
just
to
say
that
proposed
structures
is
none
existing.
O
A
S
Hello,
my
name
is
Cody
Haas
I
live
at
2821,
North
Rapid
Creek
Way
in
Kune
Idaho.
Thank
you
for
your
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
the
this
commission
today.
I
wanted
to
kind
of
address
some
of
those
those
comments.
S
So
my
wife
and
I
purchased
this
property
with
the
intent
to
build
our
home
where
we
can
raise
our
children
and
our
family
and
take
care
of
my
parents
for
the
next
20
years.
We've
applied
for
a
rezone
of
the
property,
because
the
current
zoning
is
five
acres
for
larger
properties.
This
rezone
would
make
it
consistent
with
property,
size
and
location
around
it.
S
Our
application
for
the
accessory
dwelling
unit
and
a
variance
for
a
larger
square
footage
is
to
build
a
residence
for
my
parents
that
is
close
to
us,
so
we
can
help
care
for
them
as
they
age.
My
mother
suffers
from
a
degenerative
nerve.
Disease
called
cidp
that
will
ultimately
leave
her
in
a
wheelchair,
and
so
the
extra
space
will
allow
for
her
to
maneuver
in
the
residence.
S
I
have
four
older
brothers
that
are
all
married,
they're,
13,
grandchildren
and
more
to
come.
So
our
hope
is
to
build
a
home
that
will
accommodate
our
family
for
Holiday
Gatherings.
We
have
no
intention
to
ever
rent
on
the
property
or
anything
like
that.
We
will
not
be
operating
any
kind
of
business
on
the
property.
My
parents
are
retired
I'm,
a
nurse
practitioner
and
I
I
cover
several
long-term
care
facilities
around
the
valley,
but
we
do
not
see
any
patients
at
our
residents.
S
We
have
two
small
children
and
plan
to
build
our
home
entering
from
Montage
court
because
of
the
cul-de-sac
will
be
safer
for
our
kids
to
play
there.
The
Adu
would
would
be
accessed
from
Lane
wood,
as
was
discussed
because
it's
easier
to
access
for
my
parents
and
we
verified
with
achd
that
these
access
points
were
permitted.
Prior
to
making
these
plans,
we
intend
to
honor
all
current
easements
and
access
to
water
controls
adjacent
to
the
property.
S
H
C
Yeah,
okay
can
just
some
clarifications
on
this.
So
on
the
main
house
there's
a
driver
coming
in
is:
is
there
a
two
three
four
car
garage
on
your
main
house
how's
that.
S
Yeah
we
haven't
submitted
plans
or
anything
because
we
don't
know
what's
going
to
be
approved
at
this
time
and,
like
I
said,
Our
intention
is
to
really
to
care
for
our
parents,
so
that
kind
of
determines
on
on
the
plan
for
the
project,
but
the
Casita
that
was
mentioned.
That's
a
detached
garage
that
was
earlier
rendering.
So
that's
not
going
to
be
an
additional
living
structure.
That's
going
to
be
the
primary
garage
is.
C
A
A
M
M
We
bought
this
property
two
and
a
half
years
ago,
and
it
was
a
single
family
dwelling
one
story
there
and
we
still
had
views
of
the
of
the
Boise
shelf
and
Bogus
Basin
sunrises.
That
kind
of
thing
now,
as
it
looks,
the
plans
are
to
build
complete
along
a
complete
line
of
his
property.
That'll
just
just
affect
us
entirely,
we'll
have
no
more
views,
it'll
block
our
sun
at
the
Rising
Sun
coming
in
and
we
oppose
a
secondary
unit.
M
We
just
we
don't
we
don't
we
don't
approve
of
that,
and
we
would
hope
that
you
would
neither.
We
would
request,
though,
that
if,
if
this
is
approved,
we
would
ask
that
maybe
maybe
the
Mr
Haas
could
maybe
plant
some
arbs
or
some
kind
of
a
juniper
that
would
grow
a
little
tall.
So
we
don't
have
nothing
but
a
view
of
his
home
in
his
in
Casita
and
a
secondary
unit
in
this
RV
garage,
and
everything
wants
to
build.
M
M
M
I
Yeah
Scott,
are
you
also
are
you
I
saw
in
some
other
comments.
Opposing
access
to
Montage
court
itself
is
that
is
that
you,
or
is
that
someone
else?
That's
opposing
that
as
well.
I.
M
Well,
yeah,
we
were,
you
know,
basically
we're
paying.
We
pay
HOAs
that
cover
the
all
the
all
the
maintenance
of
Montage
court
and
they
will
not
pay
for
that.
You
know
they
get
that
free
access
off
of
our
HOA
payments,
so
we
we
weren't
really
happy
about
that
and
the
added
traffic.
You
know
just
it's
a
nice
quiet
court,
so
we
were
concerned
about
the
added
traffic.
I
M
I,
don't
have
the
answer
for
that,
you
know,
but
but
we
pay
for
all
the
maintenance
in
the
area
you
know
and
and
everything
everything
and
everything
in
HOA
covers
in
the
area
so
and
we
were
led
to
believe
that
you
know
they
aren't
paying
for
that
at
all,
so
they
get
free
access
through
our
court
without
paying
any
due.
So
that's
a
concern.
B
O
O
You
can
also
tell
if
it's
a
via
a
private
road
or
a
public
road
by
the
street
suffix,
so
private
roads
are
typically
labeled
as
a
lane,
whereas
public
roads
you'll
have,
if
it's
an
East-West
public
rail,
be
like
if
it's
a
cul-de-sac,
it'll
be
a
core
if
it's
East-West,
if
it's
a
cool
site
going
north
south
will
be
place,
so
this
kind
of
indicates
that
it's
a
public
roadway.
Just
just
you
know
and
do
my
research
before
you
know.
O
A
Any
other
questions
so
I
suppose
that
raises
the
question
of
what
the
HOA
is
charging
them
for,
but
that's
not
not
ours,
to
address
all
right.
Would
the
applicant
like
to
come
forward
or
rebuttal
and
address
questions
that
have
been
raised.
H
S
Of
why
we
bought
the
property?
Obviously,
but
you
know
we
do
obviously
want
to
be
respectful
of
of
the
neighbors,
and
we
are
more
than
happy
to
landscape,
to
you
know,
improve
the
view
and
sight
lines
that
you
know
are
going
to
be
changed
from
what
they
are
currently.
So
you
know
we're
happy
to
accommodate,
to
you
know
different
Landscaping
things
that
we
can
offer
with
them.
So.
E
A
N
At
chairman,
Commissioners,
there's
no
master
site
plan
associated
with
this
I
think
the
closest
you
could
get
would
be
to
add
a
condition
to
the
accessory
use
section
or
possibly
the
development
agreement.
But
it's
not
typical
for
a
single
family
residential
property
to
be
have
a
condition
like
that
imposed,
but
there
are
ways
to
add
it
in.
If
the
commission
decides
to
do
that.
Okay.
A
Thank
you
so
so
Mr
Haas
I
guess
what
we're
looking
for
you
to
do
is
to
do
as
you've
suggested
work
with
your
neighbor.
That's
going
to
be
most
directly
affected
by
this,
so
that
it
does
not
impact
him
any
more
than
it
will
anyway
nobody's
trying
to
stop
you
from
building
on
your
property
and
and
providing
for
your
parents,
but
by
the
same
token,
as
you
use
the
word
respect,
it
would
be
respectful
for
your
neighbor
to
accommodate
them.
B
A
C
What
you
mean
by
anybody,
I
just
wanted
to
make
you
I,
didn't
want
to
describe
it,
but
I'll
describe
more
there's
a
lot
going
on
in
this
property.
You
know
the
the
size
of
the
house,
the
the
number
of
structures
that
are
on
there,
we're
not
looking
at
a
clean,
up-to-date
idea
of
what's
going
on
here.
So
apparently
the
Casita
is
going
to
be
a
at
the
task
garage.
The
garage
is
gone.
C
The
house
we
don't
know,
what's
really
going
on
as
far
as
parking
a
plan
that
shows
which
showed
the
30-foot
setback
clean,
that
up
I
actually
have
a
professional
architect,
come
in
and
and
do
a
professional
plan
so
that
we're
sending
something
to
the
County
Commissioners
that
is
professional,
that's
clean,
so
that
they
have
a
better
idea,
so
they
can
make
their
their
decision
on
the
variants.
C
It's
just
this
isn't
in
a
case,
it's
not
a
clear
indication
of
what's
going
on
here,
there's
just
a
lot
of
building
a
lot
of
big
buildings,
even
those
that
they
have
1500
square
foot,
detached
garage,
that's
going
to
be
the
Casita
or
that
was
listed
as
the
Casita.
Now,
there's
too
much,
that's
not
clear
on
this.
A
H
C
We
could
then
discuss
I'll.
Do
it.
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman
I,
moved
to
we
that
we
table
this
application
for
clarification
of
the
site
plan
or
modification
of
the
site
plan.
N
N
Our
building
department
does
allow
for
a
homeowner
to
design
their
own
plans
and
even
build
their
own
home.
So
I
don't
know
if
we're
asking
an
architect
to
do.
This
is
what
actually
it
might
be
an
overstep
as
to
what
we
require
for
residential
building
permits,
but
I
certainly
think
you
could
ask
for
additional
detail
and
more
clarity,
but
we
can
allow
the
applicant
to
prepare
something
like
that.
Okay,.
E
E
It
would
be
different
if
this
is
a
five
acre
parcel
that
you're
at
in
a
secondary
dwelling
mother-in-law
quarters
of
1200
square
feet,
I
would
highly
recommend
that
they
try
to
design
a
plan
to
where
they
could
stay
at
that
900
900
square
feet,
which
is
required
by
staff
and
Ada
County
for
the
secondary
dwelling.
A
I
I
will
say:
I
share
the
same
concern
that
both
commissioner
Wickstrom
and
commissioner
Coulson
have
made,
and
while
we
may
not
be
designing
what
it
is
that
the
applicant
wants
to
put
on
their
property,
there
could
be
more
detail
as
to
what
they
intend
to
do,
certainly
showing
compliance
with
setbacks.
That
type
of
thing
so
motion
has
been
made
and
seconded.
Is
there
any
more
discussion
about
the
motion
before
we
put
it
to
a
vote?
Mr.
A
I
I
so
I
was
before
this.
We
started
discussion
at
table.
I
was
inclined
to
let
this
play
out
and
approve
this,
but
yeah
the
more
I,
the
more
I
look
at
this,
the
more
I'm
unsure
and
when
I'm
unsure
I
think
it
means
we
just
need
more
information
and
I
I
am
it?
Is
it's
I'm
still
leaning
in
the
in
the
realm
of?
I
E
Yeah
I
I
mean
I
just
want
to
bring
it
also
I
mean
the
access
to
off
of
Montage.
I
think
is
a
total
viables
solution
and,
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
one
achd
is
in
control
of
it
and
two
when
they
built
the
subdivision.
They
literally
made
a
a
cut
in
the
in
this
in
the
side
of
it
in
the
sidewalk,
whether
that's
the
sidewalk
that
goes
around
there,
but
they
made
an
approachment
for
that
piece
of
property.
So
it
was
their
goal
to
eventually
feed
this
property.
E
In
my
opinion,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
that
clear,
like
I'm
I'm,
all
for
them,
taking
access
off
a
montage
and
and
I'm
I'm
in
the
same
boat,
I'm
a
big
property
rights,
but
I,
you
know
the
the
one
thing
of
just
the
the
square
footage
for
the
secondary
dwelling
is,
is
just
kind
of
you
know,
kind
of
the
kind
of
the
rule
I
mean
so
to
make
it
more
cleaner
it
for
the
applicant.
That's
what
I
would
recommend,
but.
B
F
I
guess
part
of
me
is
saying:
we're
not
being
asked
to
provide
a
variance
for
that
dwelling
unit.
That's
going
to
be
the
board
of
County
Commissioners.
So
if
that's
causing
us
grief,
then
that's
not
something
we're
supposed
to
be
making
a
decision
on.
F
In
my
from
what
I
understand
and
we're
expect
we're
recommending
approval
of
the
zoning
ordinance
map
Amendment,
which
basically
says
they're,
changing
the
zoning
from
that
rut
because
it
doesn't
conform
to
the
estate
which
it
does
conform,
so
we're
approving
that
zoning
change
so
that
they
can
move
forward
with
with
putting
a
a
house
on
it
and-
and
maybe
the
dwelling
unit,
maybe
not
depending
on
on
if
they
qualify
for
the
variance
and
so
I
guess,
is
the
development
agreement
attached
here,
because
that's
what
we're
being
asked
to
approve
is
the
zoning
ordinance
map
change
and
development
agreement.
N
Chairman
Commissioners
on
the
development
agreement,
those
are
typically
prepared
after
a
pnz
recommendation,
and
it's
always
draft
until
the
board
ultimately
approves
it.
So
there
isn't
a
DA
for
you
to
review
at
this
point.
Just
County
practice
has
been
to
do
that
after
a
pnz
recommendation,
a
DA
for
a
single
family
home
is
a
rare
da,
because
single-family
homes
are
just
principally
permitted
in
the
R1
Zone,
and
so
it's
kind
of
a
unique
thing
and
again
principally
permitted,
is
just
pull
a
building
permit
and
meet
the
lot
coverage
and
setbacks.
N
So
the
only
thing
requiring
anything
other
than
changing
the
zoning
would
be
that
variance
for
the
AC
structure.
So.
N
Accessory
use
is
the
staff
level
application,
so
they
don't
typically
are
are
not
heard
by
the
PNC
or
the
board.
It's
only
in
due
to
the
fact
that
he
applied
for
everything
concurrently
that
we
bring
all
of
that
together.
So
in
theory
he
could
build
a
shop
there
with
just
a
building.
Permit
I
mean
if
it
was
over
1500
square
feet.
It
would
require
another
staff
level
approval,
but
again
low
level.
N
He
could
later
apply
for
the
accessory
dwelling
unit
in
that
shop
building.
So
it's
a
unique
one,
where
you're
being
presented
with
what
is
primarily
just
principal
permitted
uses.
It's
just
the
change
in
zoning
necessary
to
create
better
setbacks
for
the
project.
F
So
my
my
comment
is:
is
I
I'm
in
favor
of
letting
the
zoning
change
happen
because
I
think
that's
what
needs
to
happen
to
make
it
conforming.
I
agree
that
the
package
is
super
confusing,
but
but
that's
what
happens
when
we,
when
we
put
these
together
and
there'll,
be
another
opportunity
to
to
organize
it
differently
before
it
goes
to
the
Commissioners.
But
but
that's
not
our.
That's,
not
my
call.
F
E
I'm
in
agreeance,
with
you,
I
mean,
if
we're
just
here
to
I
mean
we
might
have
went
a
little
too
deep
into
this.
I
mean
we're
just
looking
to
approve
the
zoning
and
what
they
do
with
the
the
land
is
still
got
to
be
approved
by
staff,
whether
that's
building
the
two
or
going
for
the
variants
I
mean
if
all
we're
looking
for
is
approving
the
very
the
the
zoning
change.
Yeah
I'm
I'm,
totally
on
that,
because.
E
E
It
how
it's
built
on
it,
how
it
looks
how
you
know
the
access,
whatever
I
mean,
we're
just
saying:
yeah
switch
it
from
here
to
here.
C
C
C
F
F
N
Chairman
Commissioners,
you
can
make
a
recommendation
on
the
D.A
always
is
associated
with
the
zoning
change,
so
the
AC
application.
You
could
take
no
action
on
or
you
could
recommend
denial
and
hand
that
off
to
the
board,
to
make
the
final
decision
or
whatever
you
want
to
do.
You
could
provide
direction
that
the
AC
application
be
removed
from
this
new
package
of
requests,
and
then
the
board
could
take
action
on
that
as
well.
N
F
So,
based
on
that
input,
I'm
willing
to
admit
my
motion
to
include
the
development
agreement
and
to
exclude
the
any
advice
on
the
accessory
use
application.
A
N
A
Maria,
the
my
thoughts
with
respect
to
Landscaping
are
that
you
do
have
a
home
that
is
remarkably
close
to
this
property
and
and
to
have
the
property,
basically
be
a
complete
blank
slate,
where
somebody
can
do
whatever
and
then
impact
a
property
that
could
be
I
mean
almost
within
Whispering.
Distance
of
it
would
seem
unreasonable,
and
so,
but
but
I'm
getting
ahead
of
myself
again
so
emotion
has
been
made.
Is
there
a
second
to
the
motion?
A
A
Mr
Scott
is
seconded
the
motion
by
way
of
discussion
and
I'll
just
start.
It
I
would
like
to
see
something
in
the
motion
relating
to
Landscaping,
appropriate,
reasonable
and
appropriate
Landscaping
to
minimize
the
impact
on
the
closest
neighboring
property
and
whatever
that
is,
is
a
realize
subjective,
but
I
don't
want
to
get
into
what
type
of
shrubs
they
could
put
in
or
anything
else,
because
I
think
that's
clearly
beyond
what
we
would
be
having
the
ability
to
do.
I
E
N
I
mean
chairman
Commissioners,
I,
I.
Guess,
if
you're
going
down
the
road
of
adding
a
landscaping
requirement,
some
more
detail
would
be
good.
You
know
Landscaping
along
the
western
property
line
to
screen
the
future
structures
might
be
enough,
but
the
board
is
going
to
make
the
final
decision
on
the
language
ultimately
but
you're
kind
of
giving
direction.
As
to
what
you'd
like
inserted
into
that
da.
A
And
that's
that's
how
I
was
viewing
it
too,
commissioner,
Coulson,
that
if
we
put
that
in
there
and
we
approve
it
then
go
to
the
board.
Our
neighbor
that
has
been
here
tonight
would
be
able
to
go
as
well,
and
when
it's
presented
before
the
board,
the
neighbor
could
say
yeah.
It
looks
good
to
me
or
or
I,
don't
like
it
and
the
board
would
say:
okay
well,
we'll
we'll
approve
it
anyway
or
we'll
approve
it
with
a
modification
wouldn't
be
up
to
us
to
approve
it.
A
A
H
B
A
Think
that
if
it's
amended,
it
can
be
broad
enough
that
appropriate
Landscaping,
even
for
a
neighbor
here
to
the
South
comes
in,
then
they
can
weigh
in
as
well
nobody's
going
to
be
dictating
again.
What
kind
of
shrubs
or
trees
are
put
up
there,
but
at
least
they
will
say
you
can't
just
put
something
up
there
that
destroys
the
property
value
of
the
people
that
are
already
there
or
significantly.
F
So
I'm
willing
to
modify
my
motion
to
include
appropriate
Landscaping
adjacent
to
the
houses
on
the
west
and
the
south
side.
A
A
Well,
we
wondered
why
everybody
was
here
and
so
I
guess
we
now
know
so
we
have.
The
last
remaining
item
is
two
zero
one:
six
zero
one:
two:
five:
eight
Dash
D,
a
dash
d
m
c,
Dry,
Creek,
Ranch
plan,
Community,
periodic
evaluation
and
by
the
way,
thank
you
all
for
your
patience.
Thus
far,
all
right,
Mr
election
will
turn
the
time
over
to
you.
I
H
N
As
well
so
they'll
have
another
chance
to
participate
if
they
decide
to
do
that.
So,
chairman
Commissioners,
thank
you
before
you
is
a
periodic
evaluation
for
the
Dry
Creek
Ranch
development.
This
is
a
two-year
periodic
evaluation
and
review.
The
review
is
being
conducted
to
satisfy
code
requirements
and
determine
if
Dry
Creek
Ranch
is
developing,
in
conformance
with
the
with
its
development
plan.
The
review
is
based
on
the
goals
and
objectives
contained
in
the
Dry
Creek
Ranch
development
plan
and
a
review
of
the
development
agreement.
N
Took
these
pictures
from
Dry
Creek
ranch's
website
hope
they
appreciate
that
so
the
Dry
Creek
Ranch
plan
Community
encompasses
approximately
1
414
Acres
at
Brookside
Lane
and
State
Highway
55..
It
was
originally
submitted
in
September
of
2006
and
approved
in
February
of
2010,
with
approximately
3
500
dwellings
and
650
000
square
feet
of
commercial
office.
Space
ownership
changed
and
amendments
were
made
by
Boise
Hunter
homes.
Who
currently
is
the
developer
of
Dry
Creek
Ranch.
N
N
The
six
sub
phases
in
Phase
a
have
been
final
plotted.
One
sub
phase
in
Phase
B
and
one
sub
phase
in
Phase
C
have
been
final
plotted.
In
addition,
two
sub
phases
in
Phase
e
have
been
final
plotted.
Phase
e
plats
are
within
the
directory,
Branch
Village
of
the
development
and
here's
kind
of
a
build
out
by
phase.
N
You
know
it's
important
to
keep
in
mind
that
planned
communities
are
not
a
done
overnight.
Sort
of
thing.
It's
a
20
to
25
year
build
out.
N
You
know
here
anticipated
the
space
f
in
2025
to
2032
in
terms
of
build
up,
but
in
reality
it'll
probably
go
a
bit
beyond
that
and
I'll
let
Todd
with
Boise
Hunter
homes
speak
to
that
a
little
bit
more
than
I
am
right
here.
So
here
is
the
overall
development
plan
for
Dry,
Creek,
Ranch
and
I've
labeled
each
phase.
As
you
can
see,
the
majority
of
building
has
occurred
along
Brookside
Lane.
N
142
responses
were
received,
which
is
a
34
response
rate.
Anybody
familiar
with
surveys
knows
that's
really
good
response
rate.
99
of
respondents
were
Property
Owners.
There
was
one
renter
that
provided
a
response
as
well.
Nine
percent
of
those
response
have
lived
in
the
development
for
one
year.
64
percent
have
been
here
one
to
three
years
and
25
percent
have
been
there
for
three
plus
years.
N
N
So
there
are
several
goals
stated
in
the
the
Dry
Creek
Ranch
plan
and
the
development
agreement
as
well,
and
so
the
survey
was
built
off
of
those.
The
first
one
was
that
an
overall
goal
of
directory
grants
will
provide
a
master
plan
Farm
to
Table
Community
or
residents
honor,
their
Idaho
Heritage
through
Agricultural
and
recreational
opportunities.
N
Well,
we
just
I
think
I
might
really
have
a
new
level
of
hatred
for
WebEx,
because
I
can't
get
any
of
my
things
out
of
the
way.
So,
as
you
can
see
here,
there
was
a
close
to
50
the
degree,
another
five
percent
that
strongly
agree,
and
then
you
know
30
percent
to
well
45
that
don't
agree.
N
The
developer's
response
to
this
specific
goal
is
that
director
Grant
is
a
farm
to
table
master
plan
community
that
sits
on
the
1414
Acres
that
I
mentioned
before
the
overall
build
out
of
the
community
will
have
18,
000
or
1815
residences
of
varying
size,
a
10
acre
commercial
area,
a
community
Farm,
a
school,
a
fire
station,
a
Water
Reclamation
facility
and
an
array
of
recreational
opportunities
provided
within
two
Village
centers
and
expansive
open
space.
Currently,
10
phases
have
been
recorded,
Within
These,
10
phases.
N
There
are
573
residential
lots
in
addition
to
the
residential
construction
that
has
occurred
within
the
planned
Community.
A
state-of-the-art
Water
Reclamation
facility
has
been
constructed
and
is
fully
operational.
An
approximate
two-acre
neighborhood
Farm
has
been
planted
and
is
in
a
fifth
year
of
production
and
an
approximate
four
thousand
square
foot
Community,
slash
information
center
and
swimming
pool
have
also
been
completed
and
again,
the
developer
will
have
a
chance
to
speak
to
all
of
these
goals
as
well.
N
So
goal
actual
goal:
number
one
concerns
private
property
rights
to
ensure
that
directly
branch
is
in
its
land
use
policies,
restrictions,
conditions
and
fees
does
not
violate
private
property
rights,
adversely
impact
property
values
or
create
unnecessary
technical
limitations
on
the
use
of
property.
I
won't
give
you
the
breakdown
percentages.
You
can
kind
of
look
at
this
while
I
read
the
developer
response.
I
think
that's
probably
a
good
way
to
get
this
thing
moving
forward.
N
In
addition,
the
development
direct
is
adding
capacity
to
the
existing
Road
Network
by
improving
existing
substandard
Street
segments
in
the
area
goal
number
three:
is
school
facilities
provide
for
primary
public
education
opportunities
within
Dry,
Creek
Ranch,
again
survey
responses?
Are
there
in
front
of
you?
The
approved
land
use
map
shows
an
elementary
school
site
located
within
the
Eastern
portion
of
the
planned
Community.
The
school
side
is
a
7.1
acre
lot
located
within
Dry
Creek
Ranch
phase
number
five.
N
The
School
site
is
located
directly
to
the
west
of
the
West
Village
Center
in
November
2022,
the
Ada
County
Board
of
County
Commissioners
approved
a
comprehensive
plan,
Amendment
and
development
agreement
modification
to
allow
the
School
site
to
be
noted,
donated
to
either
West
ADA,
School,
District
or
any
other
school
entity,
including
charter
schools.
On
April
of
this
year,
the
Idaho
public
charter
schools,
commission
unanimously
approved
a
charter
school
for
this
site.
N
The
developer
response
for
that
one
is,
as
previously
noted,
there
have
been
10
phases
of
development
recorded
in
Dry,
Creek
Ranch.
This
has
provided
573
residential
lots
that
provide
an
opportunity
for
people
to
live
in
the
dry
creek
Valley
in
December
of
2019,
the
board
of
County
Commissioners
approved
the
preliminary
plot
for
Dry
Creek
Ranch
Village.
This
phase
of
the
development
contains
10
acres
of
commercial
property
within
the
planned
community.
N
N
There
are
also
numerous
common
Lots
in
the
planning
community
that
have
been
improved
with
play
structures,
pedestrian,
Trails
or
lawn
for
outdoor
recreation.
In
addition,
an
approximate
4
000
square
foot,
Community
Information
recreation
facility-
has
been
constructed
along
with
a
swimming
pool.
All
of
these
amenities
provide
the
residents
with
opportunities
to
play
within
the
community
goal.
Number
five
concerns
land
use,
ensure
a
variety
and
balance
of
land
uses
to
support
the
Dry
Creek
Ranch
Community.
N
The
developer
responds
within
the
directory
Branch
plan.
Community,
there
are
six
different
land
uses.
Those
uses
include:
Parks
natural,
open
space
residential,
including
four
different
density
ranges.
There's
a
Village,
Center,
School,
commercial
and
mixed
use.
These
uses
are
evenly
distributed
across
the
development
to
provide
balance.
N
Thank
you
all
right.
There
are
a
total
of
13
goals.
If
you
guys
were
wondering
where
this
is
going
so
goal
number
six
natural
resources
ensure
a
variety
and
balance
of
land
uses
to
support
the
Dry
Creek
Ranch
Community.
The
specific
survey
question
was
the
natural
environment,
qualities
of
the
land,
air
and
water
have
been
maintained
by
Dry
Creek
Ranch.
N
The
developer
responds
direct
week.
Ranch
has
prolific
water
rights
and
resources
which
have
been
used
for
the
last
100
years
by
its
commercial
farming
operation
using
the
same
water.
We
have
created
our
own
self-sustaining
private
water
system,
avoiding
impact
on
Public
Water
Systems.
It
should
also
be
noted
that,
as
more
residential
units
are
constructed,
the
agricultural
water
usage
will
be
diminished
furthering
the
sustainability
of
the
aquifer.
In
addition,
directly
grants
will
perpetually
generate
money
with
our
Wildlife
Conservation
fund.
N
The
specific
question
was
directed.
French
residents
have
been
protected
to
the
extent
possible
from
potential
Wildfire
threats
and
Wildfire
control
development
of
the
direct
week.
Ranch
plan
Community
is
performed
in
compliance
with
the
requirements
of
the
eagle
fire
department,
as
they
are
the
primary
responders
to
the
community.
The
development
is
designed
to
be
in
compliance
with
the
Wildland
Urban
Fire
interface.
Requirements
of
ADA
County
standards
within
this
overlay
are
incorporated
into
the
ccnrs
for
each
phase
that
is
recorded.
In
addition,
a
fire
and
vegetation
management
plan
has
been
established
for
the
community.
N
This
plan
addresses
what
Lots
might
be
impacted
by
a
wildfire.
It
further
describes
what
vegetation
can
be
planted
and
what
building
materials
should
be
used
to
ensure
structures
are
provided
with
a
defensible
space.
Direct
has
taken
preventative
measures
to
reduce
and
control
the
fire
fuels
located
around
the
perimeter
of
the
planned
community
property.
N
Finally,
the
National
Fire
Protection
Association
recognizes
the
directory
Branch
plan
Community.
As
a
firewise
community
goal
number
eight
Public
Services
construct,
expand
and
maintain
directly
branches
infrastructure
to
meet
the
existing
and
growing
demands
in
a
timely,
orderly
and
logical
manner.
N
Were
just
that
brief
yeah
yeah,
you
know
it's.
We
attempt
to
link
these
to
the
goals
stated
in
those
approved
plans
in
the
development
agreement.
So
embellishing
the
question
or
stepping
too
far
beyond
that
can
result
in
a
lot
of
additional
answers
that
probably
wouldn't
really
sync
up
to
what's
actually
occurring
in
the
area.
So
so.
F
The
interpretation
of
infrastructure
would
be
the
person
reading
it.
N
Exactly
yeah,
and
so
that
is
probably
the
the
double-edged
sword
of
a
survey
you
get
responses,
but
how
well
did
the
respondent
understand?
The
question
and
I
think
Todd
might
speak
to
this
as
well.
Some
feedback
they've
received
where
maybe
community
members
weren't
exactly
sure
what
the
question
was
asking
staff
does
make
itself
available
to
help
answer
the
survey
questions,
and
so
you
know
that's
kind
of
the
imperfect
nature
of
of
how
this
type
of
questioning
goes.
There.
A
N
You
know
again,
I'll
summarize
those
at
the
end
but
Wildlife
concerning
Wildlife
concerning
Trail
connectivity
concerning
overall
commercial
opportunities
and
build
out
of
the
project
and
that
sort
of
thing
so
in
terms
of
the
developers
response
for
this
one
dry,
Creek's
Ranch
infrastructure
has
been
constructed
in
a
way
that
a
conserved,
the
current
development
within
the
plan
Community
with
the
ability
to
expand
its
capabilities
to
meet
the
full
development
needs
of
the
community
prior
to
the
first
home
being
instructed
in
the
plan
Community
a
state-of-the-art
Water
Reclamation
facility
was
constructed.
N
N
In
addition
to
the
Sewer
Service
provided
to
the
residents
in
Dry
Creek
Ranch
Water
is
provided
from
the
on-site
Wells
that
can
produce
the
necessary
water
to
support
the
entire
development.
So
just
an
important
distinction
for
this
planned
Community
versus
some
of
the
others.
You
may
have
heard
about
recently
it
does
have
its
own
water
system
versus
participating
in
the
violia
water
system.
N
N
In
addition
to
the
street
improvements
directed
Ranch
installed,
a
traffic
signal
at
the
intersection
of
Highway
55
and
Brookside
Lion
in
December
of
2019,
and
then
in
February
of
this
year,
received
approval
from
ICD
to
construct
a
green
tea
traffic
signal
configuration
at
the
intersection
of
Highway
55
and
direct
Creek
Road.
These
signal
improvements
will
dramatically
improve
the
safety
at
these
intersections
goal.
Number
10
regarding
Recreation
enhance
the
quality
of
life
for
residents
of
Dry,
Creek
Ranch
through
Parks
facilities,
Pathways
trails
and
Community
Gardens.
A
specific
question
was
your
quality
of
life.
N
So
within
the
10
recorded
phases,
the
drag
Creek
Ranch.
There
are
57
common
Lots.
These
common
Lots
total
approximately
39
Acres,
which
is
approximately
12
percent
of
the
platted
developed
area.
26
of
the
common
lots
are
open
space
for
recreation,
those
26
Lots,
total
approximately
20
acres
and
contain
outdoor
play
structures,
grassy
play
areas,
a
4,
000
square
foot,
Community,
Building,
swimming
pool,
the
historic
barn
and
Farmhouse,
and
approximately
two
miles
of
Pathways
and
trails.
The
directory
Ranch
neighborhood
Farm,
is
located
between
Dry
Creek
and
Dry
Creek
Road.
N
The
neighborhood
Farm
is
approximately
two
acres
in
size
and
has
been
operational
for
five
growing
seasons.
A
reform
is
a
community
supported
agricultural
or
CSA
Farm,
there's
a
full-time
manager
that
is
assisted
by
residents
within
the
Dry
Creek
Ranch
plan
community,
a
wide
variety
of
fruits
and
vegetables
are
grown
harvested
and
then
delivered
to
CSA
members
once
a
week
for
20
weeks
in
the
year,
and
they
have
an
opportunity
for
you
to
look
at
dcrfarm.com.
If
you
would
like
more
information
about
that.
N
Goal
number
11
housing,
there's
one
more
goal:
left
I
lied,
there's
one
more
goal
after
this
one
so
provide
a
diversity
of
housing
choices
within
Dry,
Creek,
Ranch,
consistent
with
development
costs
and
Market
realities,
and
the
more
specific
question
was
record.
Ranch
provides
a
mix
of
housing,
types
and
densities
to
provide
for
a
strong
and
diverse
community.
As
previously
noted,
10
phases
within
the
planning
Community
have
been
recorded,
Within
These,
10
phases.
N
There
are
571
residential
lots
and
57
common
lots
and
in
your
record
there
is
a
table
that
breaks
out
kind
of
each
phase
and
different
styles
of
home.
I
didn't
include
that
in
this
just
because
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
in
this
presentation
already,
but
it
does
give
you
a
breakout
per
lot
type
or
home
type.
What
what
has
been
built
of
the
five
different
types
of
residential
densities
provided
within
Dry
Creek
Ranch.
Those
include
equestrian
density,
low
density,
medium
density,
Hillside
density
and
mixed
use.
Three
are
located
within
the
first
10
recorded
phases.
N
N
All
right,
Community
design,
promote,
encourage
communities
and
conducive
to
specific
development
standards
and
provide
enhancement
to
the
existing
character.
Every
building
within
the
plan,
Community
is
reviewed
and
approved
by
the
architectural
control
committee
for
Dry
Creek
Ranch.
The
buildings
are
reviewed
for
compliance.
The
design
guidelines
found
in
element
F9
of
the
Dry
Creek
Ranch
development
plan
homes
are
reviewed
for
architectural
elements
and
colors
to
ensure
diversity
throughout
the
community,
while
maintaining
a
cohesive
design
character.
N
So
that
concludes
the
goal
portion
of
this.
We
did
also
reach
out
to
agency
and
user
groups.
We
received
six
responses
in
total.
Three
of
those
were
from
equestrian
focused
groups,
and
three
were
from
well,
one
is
from
Eagle
fire,
one
was
from
Idaho
Fish
and
Game,
and
one
was
from
the
Ada
County
historic,
Preservation
Council.
N
In
terms
of
responses
from
the
equestrian
groups,
there
was
a
desire
for
increased
Trail
connectivity
just
broadly
throughout
the
development
and
and
the
region
in
general,
and
access
to
the
proposed
Trailhead
at
the
end
of
Brookside,
Lane
and
I.
Don't
think
this
group
has
been
a
part
of
that
conversation
too
much,
but
there
has
been
a
proposal
to
donate
property,
to
Ada
County
for
the
creation
of
a
Trailhead
that
would
support
equestrian
users,
and
this
group
would
like
better
connections
to
that
or
a
connection
to
that.
N
The
Idaho
Fish
and
Game
made
note
that
the
wildlife
mitigation
plan
meetings
have
not
occurred
per
what
was
required
in
the
plan.
There's
been
an
ongoing
conversation
between
staff
and
directory
Grant
development
team
as
to
the
need
for
getting
those
up
and
running
again
to
the
point
where
we're
not
approving
additional
plots
until
we
have
another
meeting
like
that
and
get
that
business
underway,
so
everyone,
including
director
Grant,
is
aware
that
that
needs
to
happen,
and
they
have
agreed
to
basically
pause
on
platting
and
tell
this
can
happen.
N
Eagle
fire
noted
that
emergency
access
issues
have
been
a
problem
based
on
Street
Design,
Within
development.
This
is
a
complicated
one
because
we
actually
rely
on
Eagle
fire
to
bless
each
plot.
That
comes
through,
and
we
haven't
really
heard
that
specific
comment
as
it
relates
to
a
plat
moving
forward.
It'll
be
a
much
tighter
conversation
with
eagle
fire
as
to
what
they
might
need
out
of
a
roadway
width
or
roadway
design,
and
direct
Ranch
is
also
working
with
eagle
fire
to
address
some
of
those
issues.
You.
N
Under
that's
what
I
understand,
I
think
there's
been
a
lot
of
construction
traffic
out
there
as
well.
I.
Think
Todd
again
could
probably
speak
to
that
even
more
than
I
could
but
I.
There
has
been
a
lot
of
congestion
on
the
road
based
on
street
parking
as
well
as
I
know
that
during
construction
of
certain
phases,
it's
been
really
difficult
to
to
make
it
through,
let's
see
and
then
finally,
the
Ada
County
historic,
Preservation
Council,
stated
concerns
regarding
the
improvements
and
preservation
of
three
historic
structures
that
are
within
the
development.
N
Those
include
a
farmhouse
from
the
early
1900s,
an
ice
house
from
around
the
same
era
and
then
a
hay
barn
from
I
believe
the
tournament
or
the
end
of
the
19th
century,
early
20th
century
and
so
they've
stated
the
the
desire
to
see
the
timeline
and
those
improvements.
N
Increased
I
think
the
letter
also
included
that
maybe
there
were
some
improvements
made
some
of
the
structures
that
they
didn't
get
a
chance
to
review
and
they
would
like
to
have
more
input
on
changes
to
those
structures
again
I'll
kind
of
let
Todd
speak
to
that
when
he
gets
a
chance
to
speak
to
you
some
more
so.
In
conclusion,
the
motion
before
you
is
you
can
do
one
of
two
things.
N
You
can
recommend
that
Dry
Creek
Ranch
has
developed
in
substantial
accordance
with
the
development
plan
and
allow
work
to
continue,
or
you
can
say
that
direct
branch
has
not
developed
in
substantial
accordance
with
the
development
plan
and
or
has
caused
undue
adverse
economic
impacts
on
affected
agencies
and
or
districts.
Therefore,
the
board
would
initiate
public
hearings
to
investigate
such
matters
and
adopt
changes.
The
development
plan
to
mitigate
such
undue
adverse
impacts.
N
A
So
I
do
have
a
question,
so
is
there
a
middle
ground?
For
example,
would
you
be
able
to
say
that
you
would
effectively
freeze
development
until
the
historic
structures
are
completed,
because
those
are
supposed
to
be
done
by
July
of
24
so
less
than
a
year
from
now,
and
it
looks
like
what
hasn't
been
completed
and
Todd
can
address?
A
This
would
be
the
most
expensive
parts
of
the
renovation
renovating
a
Barn
that
was
identified
as
being
structurally
unsound,
for
example,
and
so
you
wouldn't
want
to
wait
until
that
thing
would
collapse,
because
then
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
renovate
it,
and
so
is
there
a
middle
ground
between
the
two
options
that
are
listed
here
or
if
you
said
no,
we're
not
happy
with
what
has
happened
with
respect
to
the
historic
structures.
Some
of
the
comments
that
the
public
made
and
whatnot
are
concerning.
N
Things
happened
yet
chairman
Commissioners
I
think
what
you're
proposing
kind
of
fits
best
in
that
second
bullet
point.
It
is
kind
of
a
let's
pause
on
this
development
and
see
if
additional
conditions
are
required
in
terms
of
timelines.
You
know
prioritizing
improvements,
I
think
that
really
would
fit
into
this
bullet
point
number
two,
and
if
that's
the
recommendation
you
make
to
the
board,
I
would
probably
have
you
highlight
specifically
things
you've
heard
that
you
think
they
need
to
take
a
close
look
at
so
right.
I
Because
you're
always
you
guys
are
always
so
great
at
holding
our
hands.
This
is
not
one
where
you
make
a
recommendation
like
the
other
ones
to
us
on
you,
you
give
us
the
potential
motion.
When
we
decide
it's,
not
staff
recommends
First,
Option
or
staff
recommends
second
option.
Yeah.
N
This
is
unique:
there's
not
a
set
of
findings.
Really.
What
would
happen
is
if
the
board
ultimately
landed
on
bullet
point
number
two
per
our
development
agreement
with
Boise
Hunter
homes.
We
would
have
to
then
give
give
them
a
formal,
90-day
notice
and
state
you've
got
to
come
back
and
resolve
these
issues.
There's
a
whole
process
built
in
the
D.A
that
would
unfold
afterwards
again
I
I'd,
like
you
to
hear
Todd's
side
of
this
and
I'd
like
you
to
consider
that
this
is
a
long
project.
N
There's
a
lot
left
to
build
I
think
some
of
the
immediate
things
like
historic
structures
are.
Certainly
if
you
wanted
to
prioritize
those
would
be
things
to
to
consider,
but
some
of
the
other
comments
about
Regional
Trails
or
things
like
that
or
just
you
know
those
those
are
going
to
take
a
lot
more
time
to
build
out.
So
just
keep
those
things
in
mind
in
terms
of
if
your
priority
is
prioritizing
something.
What
is
the
timeline
associated
with
that
when
it
might
actually
occur
through
the
build
out
of
the
development.
A
R
T
Good
evening,
chairman
and
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Todd
Tucker
I
represent
Boise
inner
homes
and
our
business
address
is
923.
South
Bridgeway
place
in
Eagle
Idaho,
like
Leon,
mentioned
we're
here
tonight
for
a
periodic
evaluation
of
the
Dry
Creek
Ranch
plan.
Community
we're
required
to
do
these
every
two
years,
and
this
is
our
second
evaluation.
T
Next
slide,
the
the
Dry
Creek
Ranch
plant
Community
is
1414
acres
in
size
and
we'll
have
1815
Homes
at
completion.
We're
also
approved
for
85
000
square
feet
of
commercial
area
and
though
there
will
be
an
elementary
school
and
a
fire
station.
Next
slide.
T
10
phases
have
been
recorded
so
far
as
Leon
mentioned.
There's
573
residential
lots
with
approximately
470
occupied
we've
dedicated
38
acres
of
development
to
open
space,
which
includes
Community,
Center,
swimming
pool
and
we've
constructed
actually
almost
seven
miles
of
pedestrian.
Pathways
and
trails.
T
T
Part
of
the
periodic
review
evaluation,
as
you
guys
know,
is
to
gather
information
from
the
existing
residents
in
the
community.
A
survey
was
sent
out
and
we've
received
those
those
those
results.
Next
slide
as
we
analyze
the
survey
results
and
read
through
the
comments,
or
we
noticed
there
were
several
themes
that
kind
of
jumped
out
to
us
of
concerns.
Those
themes
were
amenities:
Trails,
the
school,
a
traffic
signal,
the
homeowners
association,
Wildlife
mitigation
and
the
historic
structures
and
I'll
go
through
through
each
of
those.
T
Now
we
did
have
a
an
annual
meeting
with
the
the
homeowners
association
last
night.
It
was
fairly
well
attended.
There
was
about
200
residents
there
and
a
lot
of
these
issues
were
addressed
with
them.
Some
of
the
comments
we
did
hear
back
from
a
few
residents,
which
was
kind
of
mentioned
earlier,
is
a
little
bit
of
confusion
on
some
of
the
the
wording
of
the
questions
on
the
survey
that
were
sent
out.
Some
people
weren't
exactly
sure.
Sometimes
some
of
the
questions
that
made
it
it
really
made
it
sound
like
all
of
the
amenities
infrastructure.
T
Everything
was
supposed
to
be
done
at
the
beginning.
It
did
it
it.
It
led
to
some
confusion
on
actually,
if
we
had
done
what
we
were
supposed
to
supposed
to
have
done
next
slide.
As
previously
noted,
we've
dedicated
38
acres,
which
of
open
space,
which
is
almost
12
percent
of
the
platted
area.
Next
slide,
we've
constructed
a
4,
000
square
foot,
Community,
Center
and
swimming
pool.
We
also
installed
the
volleyball
net
next
to
the
community
center
in
a
drainage
basin
area.
T
Achd
requires
this
area
to
have
sand
in
the
bottom,
so
we
thought
it
would
be
a
good
Dual,
Purpose
extra
amenity
for
a
sand
volleyball
court
where
people
could
recreate
there
while
there's
not
standing
water
I,
know,
there's
been
some
confusion
and
some
concern
in
the
neighborhood
about
about
that
amenity,
but
we
we
thought
it
would
be
a
good
opportunity
to
use
that
space
which
is
doesn't
have
water
in
standing
water
in
it.
The
majority
of
the
time
next
slide.
T
T
We
have
installed
a
soccer
field
with
goals
on
the
property
where
the
school
will
eventually
be
located.
We
we
didn't
know,
you
know
we
didn't.
We
didn't
have
a
timeline
on
when
that
school
was
going
to
be
constructed
and
we
thought
well,
let's
don't
let
it
just
sit
there,
let's,
let's
use
part
of
it,
so
at
the
at
the
front
of
it,
we
actually
installed
the
sod
and
put
a
soccer
field
in
there,
so
that
the
residents
would
have
an
extra
place
to
recreate
until
the
school
is
constructed
in
playgrounds
and
things
like
that.
T
Next
slide,
we
have
We've
designed
and
are
close
to
submitting
an
application
to
construct
a
large
community
center
centrally
located
in
the
facility
or
in
the
community.
The
facility
will
provide
provide
an
array
of
recreation
opportunities
for
residents
within
the
community,
and
we've
got
a
full
list
of
all
the
amenities
listed
on
the
side
there.
T
So
it's
a
fairly
large
piece
of
property
and
a
fairly
large
facility
that
will
We've
we're
pretty
proud
of,
and
we
think
we'll
be
state
of
the
art
and
really
appreciated
by
the
residents
once
we
get
that
constructed
next
slide.
T
So
far,
we've
installed
seven
miles
of
pedestrian
trails
and
halfways.
Everything
you
see
in
the
yellow
has
been
installed
all
of
the
pink
lines
or
Pathways
and
trails
that
will
be
constructed
as
we
continue
to
plant
phase
by
phase
and
we
are
currently
working
with
County
staff
to
dedicate
the
trail
connection
to
the
eagle
bike
park
and
we
hope
that
is
done
soon
again.
The
way
our
conditions
of
approval
read
we're
supposed
to
dedicate
these
amenities
and
these
Trail
connections
within
each
phase.
T
We
recognize
that
there's
a
a
large
outcry
for
the
connection
to
the
eagle
bike
park
and
so
we're
willing
to
do
that
ahead
of
schedule
ahead
of
the
time
that
we're
required
to
do
it,
there's
just
some
details
that
we
need
to
work
out
with
the
county
and
we're
working
really
closely
with
them
on
those
details,
and
we
think
this
will
be
accomplished
pretty
soon.
Next
slide.
T
Over
the
past
year,
we
worked
really
hard
with
residents
who
are
on
the
charter
school
board
to
amend
the
development
plan
to
allow
for
a
charter
school
to
be
to
be
an
option
within
the
community.
That
amendment
was
approved
by
the
County
Commissioners
and
the
charter
school
was
approved
by
the
state
Charter
commission
this
year
next
slide.
T
We
also
worked
very
hard
over
the
past
two
years
to
get
a
traffic
signal
approved
at
the
intersection
of
Dry,
Creek,
Road
and
Highway
55.
Earlier
this
year
we
received
approvals
from
both
itd
and
achd
and
the
County
Commissioners
to
construct
the
signal
we're
now
in
the
process
of
developing
the
construction
drawings
that
need
to
be
submitted
to
achd
and
itd
for
approval
and
we're
planning
on
constructing
the
signal.
As
soon
as
we
can
next
slide
again,
we
held
our
HOA
meeting
last
night
that
was
attended
by
200
residents
or
so
at
the
meeting.
T
We
informed
them
that
we've
hired
an
in-house
HOA
manager
for
Dry
Creek
Ranch.
The
previous
management
company
we
had
contracted
with
was
not
performing
at
a
very
high
standard
or
up
to
the
standards
that
we
have,
and
so
we
terminated
a
contract
with
them
hired
an
internal
management
person
that
we
can
handle
our
HOA
Affairs
in-house,
and
we
feel
that
this
will
be
a
better
option
for
the
residents
in
Dry
Creek
next
slide.
T
Wildlife
Conservation
is
an
important
component
of
the
Dry
Creek
Ranch
plan
community
over
the
past
two
years.
Two
rather
large
and
impactful
projects
have
been
supported
by
Dry
Creek
Ranch
in
2021
10
000
Bitter
Brush
plants
were
purchased,
grown
and
planted
by
the
conservation
advisory
committee
residents
and
Dry
Creek
Ranch
in
Boise
Hunter
home
staff
to
restore
the
land
decimated
by
the
Teresa
fire
in
Southeast
Boise.
This
year,
construction
began
on
the
wildlife
Crossing
overpass
on
Highway
21
North
of
Lucky
Peak
Reservoir.
T
If
you've
driven
that
way,
this
summer
you've
had
to
go
around
it
advisor
the
let's
see
here.
The
funds
donated
by
Dry
Creek
Ranch
wildlife
conservation
advisory
committee,
we're
the
largest
private
donation
to
this
important
project.
In
addition,
we've
had
cows
grazing
on
the
property
since
2016
to
help
remove
noxious
weeds,
and
this
year
we
added
3
000
sheep
for
about
a
week
that
also
aided
with
the
removal
of
weeds
and
finally,
a
large
area
along
Dry
Creek
Road
had
the
noxious
weeds
mechanically
removed,
so
we
cut
them
all
down.
T
We
also
planted
Alfalfa
to
serve
as
a
fleet
a
feed
lot
for
a
feed
plot
for
enticing
deer
and
other
animals
to
come
in,
and
you
can
see
in
the
center
there
a
nice
big
deer
standing
in
the
middle
of
the
of
the
field.
Next
slide,
we
have
begun
the
renovation
process
on
the
interior
of
the
historic
farmhouse
on
the
property
and
we
will
begin
the
process
to
renovate
the
exterior
of
the
building
soon,
knowing
that
we
need
to
to
work
in
concert
with
the
historic
Preservation
Council
on
that
on
that
process.
T
One
item
that
I
didn't
have
a
slide
for,
but
just
to
address
the
the
letter
that
came
in
from
Eagle
fire.
They
had
some
concerns,
I
think
they
maybe
weren't
informed,
but
we
are
actually
a
firewise
community
registered
nationally.
So
we
we
have
completed
that
portion
of
our
requirements
and
the
the
homes
that
have
been
identified,
that
we
need
to
get
approval
of
or
that
we
have
to
have
mitigation
or
a
plan
approved
for
firewise.
T
None
of
those
homes
have
been
constructed
as
of
date,
so
everything
that
we've
built
so
far
has
been
more
internally
located
in
it
in
the
project.
Nothing
has
been
built
that
borders
the
outside
borders
of
the
project
and
those
are
the
the
homes
or
the
lots
that
border
the
Wildfire
area,
that
we
need
to
actually
go
to
Eagle
fire
and
present
a
plan
for
how
those
are
going
to
be
protected.
T
So
we
are
in
compliance
with
those
ASP,
those
aspects
or
those
conditions
of
approval
from
the
development
plan,
also
just
to
briefly
mention
since
Leon
brought
it
up,
and
there
were
some
questions
about
access
and
the
narrow
streets.
We
acknowledge
so
when
Dry
Creek
Ranch,
when
the
first
phases,
when
the
first
preliminary
plot
was
approved,
achd
standards
allowed
for
narrower
Street
sections
for
parking
on
one
side,
whether
or
parking
on
both
sides.
We
went
with
a
narrower.
T
So
the
second
preliminary
plot
that
we
got
approved,
we're
doing
33
foot
wide
Street
sections
on
all
this,
so
we're
going
with
the
wider
Street
sections
moving
forward,
realizing
that
the
narrower
streets
that
we
had
in
the
first
phases
of
this
development
while
construction
is
going
on
it
is
difficult
to
get
around.
But
once
construction
is
gone,
it's
much
easier,
but
wanting
to
avoid
that
in
the
future
our
future
streets
are
going
to
be
wider,
so
that
we
don't
have
that
that
issue.
T
T
The
progress
so
far
is
right
in
line
with
the
overall
development
plan,
we're
in
substantial
conformance
with
the
development
plan
for
Dry
Creek
Ranch,
and
ask
that
you
forward
that
sentiment
onto
the
board
of
County
Commissioners,
also
just
to
point
out
that
you
know
that
that
number
two
option
that
Leon
had
up
there
talks
about
an
undo
and
adverse
economic
impact.
T
Again,
we
feel
that
strongly
feel
that
we're
in
substantial
conformance
with
our
development
plan
and
our
conditions
of
approval
and
in
no
way
feel
that
this
would
be
an
undue
adverse
economic
impact
on
the
community.
Anything
that
we
may
have
fallen
a
little
bit
short
of.
As
far
as
the
the
wildlife
mitigation
we
have
reached
out
and
hired
a
new
conservation
director,
and
we
know
that
we
need
to
have
a
conservation
advisory
committee
meeting.
T
I
believe
that
is
all
I
have
except
I'll
preemptively
answer,
commissioner
blitman's
question:
we
did
not
have
to
have
a
neighborhood
meeting
for
this
application,
so
we
did
not
have
anyone
attend
because
it's
not
a
requirement,
but
again
we
did
have
the
HOA
meeting
last
night,
which
was
very
well
attended
and
lasted
for
quite
quite
a
while.
So
that
concludes
my
presentation.
I
can
answer
any
questions
you
guys
might
have.
Thank.
F
Commissioner,
blitman
I
wondered
about
the
Olympic
swimming
pool
like
where
does
that
fit
into
the
the
planning.
T
So
it
would
be
in
the
in
the
the
community
center
that
we're
programming
right
now
has
a
very
large
swimming
pool
associated
with
it
I'm,
not
sure
it's
actually
olympic
size.
Maybe
it
is
if
it's
a
requirement,
I
guess
we'll
make
it
that
big,
but
it's
a
pretty
big
swimming
pool.
It's
a
pretty
nice
facility
that
they've
We've
contracted
with
a
really
high
class
Architecture
Firm
to
to
fully
design
it
and
we're
really
close
to
getting
that
application
submitted.
I
mean
within
weeks
of
getting
that
application
submitted.
T
Think,
maybe
maybe
some
of
them
were
again
I,
think
you
know
the
as
as
Leon
mentioned,
with
planned
communities.
These
are.
These
are
long
duration
projects
that
take
a
long
time
to
develop
and
of
the
you
know
we
we're
at
573
Lots
out
of
18,
so
we're
we're.
T
You
know
a
quarter
of
the
way
through
it
a
little
bit
more
than
a
quarter
of
the
way
through
and
we've
again,
every
every
trail
that
we're
that's
within
the
phase
that
we've
planted
we've
constructed,
we
constructed
the
the
community
center
and
swimming
pool
that
is
constructed
now
was
not
actually
even
in
the
original
development
plan,
but
we
heard
concerns
from
the
neighbors
that
we
don't
have
an
amenity
out
here.
T
So
the
The
Hunters
went
ahead
and
constructed
that
even
on
a
piece
of
property
that
it
wasn't
originally
scheduled
for
so
and
ahead
of
time,
so
yeah
I
think
I.
Think
some
of
the
concerns
probably
were
alleviated
last
night
I'm,
not
sure
that
all
of
them
were
but
I
think
a
lot
of
the
confusion
over
the
wording
of
some
of
the
questions.
T
Maybe
was
alleviated
with
the
meeting
that
we
had
last
night
and
especially
a
lot
of
the
concerns
really
related
around
the
the
the
homeowners
association
and
the
management
of
that
and
some
of
the
funds.
We
don't
need
to
get
into
that.
But
but
again
we
recognize
that
the
management
company
that
we
had
contracted
with
was
not
performing
at
the
standard
that
we
would
like,
and
so
we
removed
them
hired.
T
A
T
A
Structural
engineer
determined
the
barn
is
structurally
on
sound
and
the
plant
has
determined
the
barn
structure
would
be
reinforced
to
help
ensure
that
it
stands
for
another
50
plus
years.
Several
improvements
are
listed
to
be
done
for
the
reinforcement.
However,
it
appears
that
none
of
these
improvements
have
commence.
Another
requirement
is
for
plaques
monuments
to
be
installed
on
the
common
Lots.
They
weren't
done
another
requirements
for
the
West
Wall,
the
ice
house
to
be
restored.
It
wasn't
done
shrubs
are
growing
up
around
it.
A
Windows
were
replaced
with
vinyl
instead
of
consistent
with
the
historic
character
of
the
building
on
the
house.
Farmhouse,
that's
there.
So
by
this
time,
when
you're
supposed
to
have
had
those
completed
by
July
21st
of
2024,
you
should
have
cost
estimates.
You
should
have
plans
in
place.
What
are
the
cost
estimates?
How
much
are
the?
How
much
is
it
going
to
cost
to
redo
that
Farmhouse?
What's
the
plan
to
get
that
done
by
next
summer,
I
mean
the
barn
excuse.
T
Me
sure,
Mr
chairman,
to
answer
your
question
again.
We
have
till
next
summer
to
do
it.
We
know
that
we're
we're
a
little
bit
behind
the
curve
on
on
having
those
cost
estimates
and
plans.
T
We,
we
have
started
the
process
of
getting
getting
those
things,
the
ball
rolling
on
those
we're
confident
that
we'll
have
it
completed
by
the
time
that
we
need
to
by
the
time
that
we're
required
to
and
again
the
as
Leon
mentioned,
we
have
a
there's
a
a
hook
if
back
lack
of
a
better
term
that
the
county
has
to
ensure
that
we
get
those
things
accomplished
where
we
can't
plot
any
more
Lots,
they
could
restrict
the
issuance
of
building
permits
until
we
come
into
compliance
with
that.
T
So
we
we
understand
that
we
need
to
accelerate
those
plans
that
we
need
to
accelerate
our
efforts
in
getting
that
accomplished,
and
it's
very
important
to
us
that
we
do
that,
and
so
our
our
construction
team,
our
purchasing
team,
is
focused
on
that
now
getting
those
things
accomplished
so
that
we
don't
fall
behind
on
the
things
that
we
have
to
have
accomplished
by
next
summer.
I
It
says
we
can't
help
us
file,
something
that's
wrong.
I.
N
Yeah
Commissioners,
that's
probably
native
County
I.T
issue.
We've
had
a
lot
of
challenges
with
our
website
lately,
but
I
can
certainly
pull
that
up.
If
you
wanted
to
review
it,
it
is
a
larger
letter.
It's
three
letters
from
the
HPC
and
then
there's
a
an
addendum
doc
attached
document
of
like
27
pages
and.
F
A
U
And
address
Christopher
Chancellor
nice
to
see
everybody
one,
four,
three
one:
four,
three
one:
five
north
Ottertail
way:
it's
Garden,
City,
83714,
Dry,
Creek,
Ranch,
I,
purchased
the
home
in
March,
Of
Night
of
last
year
and
moved
in
in
October
of
2022.
U
I
want
to
say:
I
was
at
the
meeting
last
night,
Mr
Tucker,
with
all
due
respect.
Maybe
he
was
there
I,
don't
know
if
he
was
in
attendance.
It
was
a
well
attended.
I've,
never
been
to
one
of
their
meetings.
U
I
thought
it
was
well
planned.
It
was
a
really
informative,
but
then
there
was
some
contentious
with
some
of
the
residents
there
and,
of
course,
being
newly
resident
there.
I
was
there
just
to
watch
and
observe
and
I.
It
was
sad
to
see
many
residents
who,
under
the
survey
and
I,
want
to
say
to
Mr
letson
great
report.
I
didn't
know
much
about
the
development
plan
and
I
apologize
for
my
naivety,
but
it
was
excellent,
great
job.
It
really
gave
me
information
and
contentious
today,
just
through
this
wonderful
meeting.
U
It
was
so
nice
because
last
night
there
were
some
residents
who
literally
stood
up
and
Mr
Hunter
and
I
was
shocked
by
the
anger
about
the
HOA
you're
right.
The
HOA
meeting
was
an
issue
that
being
a
short-term
resident.
Their
communication
was
not
the
reason.
Mr
Hunter
explained
that
this
was
primarily
that
the
they
had
fired
recently
the
the
management
company
and
explained.
U
Why
made
sense,
anyways
been
on
a
board
or
worked
with
you
understood
that,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
residents
were
really
upset,
especially
those
that
got
the
financial
and,
what's
going
to
cost
I
think
the
plans
are
exciting.
What's
going
to
happen
here
over
the
next
many
years,
but
I
think
there
were
a
lot
of
concerns
and
one
was
now
there's
going
to
be
this
new
HOA,
which
will
be
a
LLC.
U
That's
going
to
be
internal
and
committees
and
board
of
directors
are
very
important,
I'm
a
30-year
insurance
guy
in
California
knowing
about
boards
and
do
insurance
for
attorneys.
So
I
know
how
important
it
is
about
disclosure
and
I
think
more
than
anything
communication
transparency.
If
we
can
get
that
and
I'm
with
I
think
Rob
and
the
new
person,
the
new
professional
I've
hired,
it's
gonna
have
a
tough
job
but
she's.
She
seemed
very
nice
and
professional
if
she
can
communicate
and
get
the
proper
residents
on
board
and
as
new
residents
come
on.
U
Those
are
established
to
try
to
mitigate
those
issues
and
be
open
with
communication,
because
it
really
hasn't
been
there
without
I
only
have
44
seconds
but
I'd
say
some
of
the
disclosures
like
for
me
personally,
where,
when
I
bought
the
house,
I
wasn't
told
a
lot
about
the
water
issues
and
I
live
right
on
the
Spring
Creek
I'm
right.
U
My
house
is
on
the
Spring
Creek
and
nobody
identified
to
me
that
even
my
the
person
who
sold
me
the
Home
said
oh,
that
I
wasn't
aware
of
it
was
in
winter
time
and
then
finding
out
that
the
water
and
then
the
course
right
on
the
creek
bed
and
anybody
who's
been
on
a
I
lived
on
a
Creek
in
Carmel,
where
it
flooded.
How
did
your
flood
and
had
to
be
evacuated?
U
So
anyone
has
been
evacuated,
knows
that's
important
and
then
going
directly
put
into
the
FEMA
and
talking
to
Zach
who
works
for
the
county
is
great.
The
floodplains
by
FEMA
were
changed
and
that's
another
issue,
which
is
a
long
story,
but
basically
the
flood
zones
and
floodplains.
Anybody-
and
that's
one
issue
too,
but
I
would
just
say,
continue
to
work
on
these
things
and
communication
with
all
the
residents,
keep
it
open,
transparent.
That's
it
thank.
A
You
transfer
before
you
sit
down.
Anybody
have
any
questions
from
Mr
Chancellor.
So
so
you
talked
about
some
of
the
anger
and
you
described
it
in
part
being
the
fees
that
are
going
to
be
imposed.
Would
that
be
the
main
thing
that
you
sensed
from
it?
If
people
were
angry
about
anything,
were
they
angry
about
what
this
is
going
to
cost
them.
U
Chairman,
thank
you
for
asking
I
appreciate
that
I
think.
Overall,
the
feeling
was
definitely
the
cost.
What's
going
to
happen
to
HOA
fees,
of
course,
Mr
Hunter
addressed
it.
It's
pretty
clear
that
the
fees
are
going
to
go
up,
but
there
was
confusion
about
where
how
much
who
knows
what
those
will
be,
but
they're
going
to
go
up.
He
did
a
great
job
trying
to
present
the
benefits
of
the
new
Clubhouse.
U
The
benefits
of
all
the
things
we
have
with
water
in
the
sewer
I
think
there
was
that
confusion
of
what
what's
it
going
to
cost.
How
much
are
these
going
up
and
other
residents
had
different
views
of
the
the
viability
and
benefits
of
the
the
new
community
center
I?
Think
it's
going
to
be
a
great
Center,
based
on
what
Cody
the
son
of
Mr
Hunter
presented.
It
is
a
great
going
to
be
a
great
Center
if
it
gets
approved,
and
it's
done.
Mr
Hunter
said
he's
paying
for
that.
U
Of
course,
the
building
get
they're
donating
they're
going
to
spend
a
lot
of
money
to
build
it.
The
HOA
will
then
have
to
maintain
that
and
do
all
that.
That's
that's
part
of
your
dues.
Everyone
understands
once
dues
once
people
understand
that
these
dues
bring
benefit
and
their
costs.
I
think
that's
the
point,
but
people
don't
know
what
those
are
going
to
be
and
until
that's
addressed,
people
are
going
to
be
upset
and
nobody
wants
to
see
a
meeting
like
now
where
people
stand
up
and
get
are
upset
and
we
all
want
to
live.
U
I
think
the
community
is
very
it's
a
beautiful
Community,
but
there
are
issues
that
and
I
think
they
addressed
it.
Last
night
Robin,
the
new
HOA
manager,
said
there's
going
to
be
a
enforcement
advisory
committee
and
when
you
see
enforcement
of
rules,
people
get
a
little
upset
about
get
a
little
nervous
and
apparently
I
found
out
last
night
that
there
was
a
community
advisory
for
the
last
year
or
two
that
was
working
with
the
prior
management
company
to
address
issues
and
last
night
they
just
came
in
and
said.
U
Well,
we
we
fired
them
the
committee's
gone
and
people
who
were
on
that
committee
who
had
been
spending
a
lot
of
work
were
really
upset
because
they
just
found
out
about
it
and
I
thought
that
wasn't
communicated
but
I
think
that'll
come
through
and
I
hope
that
the
Boise
Hunter
will
work
with
everybody
to
continue,
but
I
hope
once
those
fees
are
addressed
and
people
feel
more
comfortable,
what
they're
going
to
pay
for
and
what
are
they
getting
for
that
I?
Think
they'll
that'll
allay
some
of
their
fears.
V
Closer
to
you,
if
you
would
and
I'm
sorry
for
my
scratchy
voice
but
I'm
having
speech
difficulties
I,
we
are
concerned
about
the
trailhead
and
the
construction
and
the
completion
of
the
trailhead
I
know
that
there
is
a
re
interview
with
Boise
Hunter
homes
by
Boise
development,
and
they
said
then
they
were
fast
tracking
it,
but
I
recently
spoke.
In
fact.
V
I
spoke
today
with
the
president
of
the
Southwest
Boise
mountain
bike,
Association,
and
he
in
turn
spoke
with
the
coach
of
the
high
school,
where
the
the
young
man
was
from
whom
it
was
killed.
His
coach
of
the
team
and
because
both
of
those
groups
had
volunteered
to
build
the
trailhead
and
neither
of
them
have
any
con,
have
had
any
contact
with
or
any
information
coming
to
them
about.
V
The
construction
of
the
trailhead
when
I
spoke
to
Travis
Hunter
at
the
end
of
the
meeting,
where
that
you
had
the
traffic
light
put
in
I
asked
him
about
a
timeline,
and
he
said
well,
you
know,
I
don't
have
a
timeline.
I
can
put
it
in
by
the
end
of
the
of
the
construction.
All
the
construction
and
I
said
well.
What
does
that
mean?
V
V
I
asked
him
about
four
horses
and
and
access,
and
he
said
and
parking.
He
says.
V
Well,
there's
two
places
you
can
go,
you
know
broken
horn
or
you
can
go
to
to
Brookside
and
he
says
you
can
park
your
rigs
on
the
side
of
the
road
and
I
said
you
know:
we've
got
kids
on
bicycles,
you're,
going
to
ask
them
to
park
their
their
bicycles
on
the
edge
on
the
side
of
the
road,
and
he
said
yeah
and
I
and
I
went
out
myself
to
look
at
Brookside
at
the
end
of
Brookside
is
a
pasture
on
which
there
is
a
large
gate
and
at
the
other
end
of
that
is
another
large
gate
which
connects
up
to
this
Trail.
V
All
that
would
require
is
that
Boise
Hunter
homes
give
permission
for
our
rigs.
Our
horse
Rigs
and
for
cars
to
go
onto
that
pasture
land
they
could
park
there,
where
kids
don't
have
to
get
off
off
their
bicycles,
parked
there
and
then
taken
and
just
open
those
Gates.
That's
all
they
have
to
do.
That's
not
even
any
construction
involved.
It's
opening
a
gate.
V
If
they
are
concerned,
because
there's
there
may
be
cattle
guards
there,
then
horses
can't
go
cross
a
cattle
Garden
I,
don't
remember
whether
there
is
or
they're
not
all
they
have
to
do
is
put
in
a
step
over
gate
next
to
it,
which
is
very
inexpensive.
So
the
idea
that
this
requires
tons
and
of
construction
I,
don't
see
that
actually
happening.
You
require
permission
to
go
across
that
property.
You
require
the
gates
opening
you
might
be
required
to
step
over
gates,
maybe
not
even
that
to
have
access
to
this.
A
V
V
We
want
the
interconnectivity
of
those
Tre
of
those
trails,
and
all
that
requires
for
that.
Interconnectivity
is
the
opening
of
two
gates
and
permission,
and
and
that's
the
concern
and
I
know.
I
spoke
to
some
people
hear
their
con,
who
are
concerned
about
traffic
they're
concerned
about
parking
on
on
Brookside
Lane.
Well,
you
wouldn't
have
parking
from
from
recreational
users
to
if
they
had
access
to
this
pasture
to
park.
They
could
just
park
out
there
and
it
wouldn't
be
interfering
with
with
that.
V
They
also
the
people
here
said
at
the
meeting
said
that
there
was
a
possibility
that
they
might
consider
taking
Boise
Hunter
homes
might
consider
building
beginning
to
build
the
the
trailhead
in
2024,
but
maybe
not
because
they're
in
contextion,
with
avamor
well
I'd
like
to
see
Boise
Hunter
homes
be
required
to
put
in
these
at
the
access
and
to
build
the
trailheads
within
50
building
permits.
So
that's
what
I'm
really
coming
to
ask
you
to
have
a
date
of
completion
for
these.
F
Are
you
referring
to
the
trails
connecting
to
avamor
and
the
eagle
Pike
Park?
Yes,
I
am
so
thank
you.
A
W
Eric
Moss
8295
West
Sparks
Lake
Drive
Boise.
Thank
you
Commissioners.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
I'll
be
brief.
I
know
it's
been
a
long
night.
W
My
one
concern
that
I
have
is
in
relation
to
Fire
and
I.
Do
applaud
Boise
Hunter
for
creating
the
fire
breaks
and
making
it
a
firewise
community.
W
My
concern
I
have
is
the
plan
development
of
the
fire
station
and
the
time
frame
that
that's
done.
I
heard
a
comment
from
the
hunter
family
last
night
that
they
were.
If
that
fire
station
isn't
built
in
a
relatively
quick
amount
of
time,
they
would
take
that
land
back
and
knowing
that
fire
entities
have
budgets
that
go
out
several
years
and
take
a
lot
of
planning
and
time.
W
Q
Good
evening
Commissioners
Brian
Sims,
9361,
West,
Mirror,
Pond
Drive
out
in
Dry,
Creek,
Ranch
and
Todd.
Thank
you
for
that
presentation
that
you
did
very
eloquent.
Q
However,
I
am
one
of
the
people
that
got
terminated
last
night.
If
you
will
from
the
social
from
the
Dry
Creek
committee,
it
was
news
to
the
four
of
us
upon
our
arrival
there,
and
it
was
all
handed
down
to
us
in
about
about
four
minutes.
Five
minutes
of
the
meeting
starting
by
Jim
Hunter.
Q
Our
committee
was
designed
as
a
result
of
last
year's
HOA
meeting
that
turned
out
to
be
a
show.
Okay,
last
night,
it
started
going
in
that
direction
again
and
it's
simply
because
the
hunters
have
failed
to
turn
over
Financial
reports
in
a
timely
manner
through
the
HOA.
Q
We've
asked
for
those
financials
of
where
that
conservation
money
is
going.
Although
he
presented
last
night
that
somewhere
around
80
something
thousand
dollars
has
gone
to
the
tunnel
for
the
Wildlife
transfer,
Bridge
up
above
Lucky
Peak,
which
is
phenomenal,
but
if
simple
mouth
here
folks,
if
you
have
Todd,
said
something
in
the
neighborhood
of
477,
there's
actually
426
homes
that
are
occupied,
just
simple
math
128
000
plus
we
pay
sixty
dollars
a
recurring
fee
every
month
or
every
year,
I'm.
Sorry,
every
year,
that's
another
twenty
six
thousand
dollars.
Q
Let's
start
doing
the
math
where's
that
on
the
financials
we
just
got
the
operating
budget.
This
Saturday
that
operating
budget
for
2023
should
have
been
given
to
us
back
in
November
of
2022.
We
just
received
it
the
question
and
the
frustration,
as
this
gentleman
here
said,
is
merely
a
accountability
and
transparency
and
that's
what
we're
asking
for
okay
and
accountability
along
the
lines
of
of
water.
Q
With
this
gentleman
mentioned
as
a
result
of
not
information
being
provided
to
us,
there
was
an
investigation
that
was
launched
with
the
Public
Utilities
Commission
and
that
was
submitted
and
Jim
Hunter
got
held
accountable
for
that
as
well.
Okay,
we're
just
tired
of
not
having
transparency
and
our
committee
and
everything
else
is
willing
to
help,
but
apparently
that's
not
going
to
be
needed
because
he
thinks
that
this
Robin
niece
is
going
to
come
in
and
take
over
and
and
have
complete
transparency.
A
I
N
Process
would
not
result
in
new
conditions
yeah
if
the
board
were
to
make
finding
or
motion
number
two
that
says,
we've
got
to
reopen
this.
The
the
full
public
hearing
process
associated
with
that
could
result
in
new
conditions.
I
would
say
that
what
you
could
do
here
as
a
commission
would
be
the
board,
should
ask
additional
questions
or
get
additional
information
to
a
certain
effects
and
just
put
I
guess
the
developer
on
alert
that
that's
going
to
be
something
you
think
they
need
to
learn
more
about
as
a
part
of
their
final
decision.
A
But
Mr
Watson,
as
you
pointed
out
earlier,
I
gather
what
you
could
do
as
a
commission,
as
you
could
say:
okay,
well
we're
we're
making
a
finding
of
of
the
three
Dry
Creek
Ranch
hasn't
been
developed
in
substantial
accordance
with
the
development
plan,
and
some
of
our
concerns
are
and
then
give
those
concerns
which
then,
when
it
goes
forward,
they
go
okay,
well,
they're,
concerned
about
the
trails
not
connecting
they're
concerned
about
fire
district
or
the
fire
station
they're
concerned
about
historic
preservation.
That
type
of
thing
correct.
N
Yes,
chairman,
you
could
do
that
I
think
you
could
also
make
a
motion.
It
is
in
conformance,
but
there
are
things
that
need
to
be
better
understood
again:
Trail
connectivity,
things
like
that
I
mean
you
I
think
you
could
pick
either
one
but
still
add
on.
We
need
more
information
about
this,
so
it
really
comes
down
to
the
will
of
this
commission.
If
you
feel
like
it's
out
of
compliance
or
in
compliance,
but
I
think
either
way
you
could.
F
N
Wish
Mr
Lindstrom
was
here
to
help
us
understand
exactly
what
he
was
saying
there.
I
I
believe
that
is
direct
language
from
the
development
agreement
or
I,
guess
actually,
probably
the
ordinance
in
place
at
the
time
that
required
these
periodic
evaluations.
So
I
think
you
could
read
it
as.
N
I
N
N
Yet,
as
stated
by
the
HPC,
there
is
fear
that
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
get
that
stuff
done
in
time
and
that
there
have
been
some
changes
made
to
these
structures
that
they
weren't
excited
about
because
they
weren't
funneled
through
the
HPC
is
kind
of
agreed
upon,
but
I
wouldn't
say,
they're
necessarily
out
of
compliance
with
the
historic
structures,
the
wildlife
mitigation
plan.
Yes,
that
is
something
that
needs
to
be
addressed.
N
There's
been
a
lot
of
conversation
around
that
and
which
is
the
reason
why
the
county
has
paused
all
new
plats
to
kind
of
Leverage
the
need
for
that
conversation.
The
trail
conversation
you
know
they
are
again
only
required
to
build
Trail
as
they
plant
property,
and
there
has
been
a
lot
of
conversation
about
Regional
connectivity,
our
own
parks
and
waterways.
Director
would
really
love
to
see
this
Regional
Trail
through
there.
N
We've
had
a
lot
of
dialogue
around
that,
but,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
at
their
discretion
to
provide
those
Trails
as
they
plot
property
and
and
to
say
that
they're
out
of
compliance
with
the
plan
because
they
haven't
provided
the
entire
Trail
I,
don't
think,
is
accurate,
I'm
trying
to
think
of
any
other
aspects
that
we
heard
that
they
might
not
be.
You
know
the
HOA
funding
and
fees
are
not
things
that
we
really
get
involved
with.
I
N
Been
a
Todd
probably
better
to
speak
to
this,
there
initially
was
land
identified
to
be
dedicated
to
the
fire
District
Fire
Department
in
control
of
the
area
there
has
since
been
eagle.
Fire
has
proposed
to
build
a
new
station
down
at
Beacon,
Light
and
Highway
55
I,
don't
know
where
that
project
is
in
this
development.
It's
within
the
city
of
Eagle,
but
there's
been
conversation
about
that
being
an
alternative
location
for
this
fire
station,
and
so
that
begs
the
question:
what
is
the
land
for
in
Dry
Creek
Ranch?
N
If
that
does
occur,
but
again,
I
think
Todd
might
be
better
to
speak
to
the
dedication
of
that
land
and
kind
of
the
UN
doing
of
that.
In
the
event
they
build
somewhere
else.
I
And
then
I,
just
sorry
one.
My
last
question
is,
and
it's
kind
of
a
statement,
question
I,
just
wanna
and
it
backed
me
up
if
I'm
right,
I
want
to
be
clear
that
we
heard
a
lot
about
hoes
and
HOAs
are
generally
private
between
two
parties
outside
of
the
County's
purview
other
than
the
wildlife
plan,
like
you
said
so,
when
people
talk
about
their
angst
and
anger
with
the
HOAs,
unfortunately,
that's
outside
of
our
ability
to
affect
anything,
correct,
yeah.
N
Chairman
Commissioners
HOAs
and
the
ccnrs
that
they
regulate
and
enforce
and
live
by
are
things
that
we
expressly
stay
out
of
because
they
are
private
party
agreements
and
so
yeah
I
think
that's
more
probably
for
the
hunters
to
here
and
Boise
Idaho
homes
that
your
residents
or
participants
in
the
HOA
need
some
stuff
resolved.
But
that
is
not
anything
for
you
to
take
action
on.
So
that's
all
thanks,
commissioner.
A
F
So,
just
so
I
understand
the
plat
process
has
been
paused
pending
the
hunter
homes,
fulfilling
their
requirements
to
hold
the
wildlife
mitigation
plan
meetings.
That's.
N
That's
a
decision
that
was
made
by
the
board
already,
but
I
mean
again.
If
it
you
know,
push
comes
to
shove
and
the
plot
submitted-
and
you
know
they
might
have
to
reopen
everything
and
formally
establish
that.
But
that's
been
an
agreed
upon
thing
between
the
county
and
the
hunters
that
we're
not
going
to
approve
the
plotting
of
any
additional
Lots
until
that
issue
is
resolved.
A
T
Mr
chairman
Commissioners
I,
probably
could
have
not
done
a
rebuttal
of
Mr.
Commissioner
Scott
did
most
of
my
rebuttal
for
me,
but
yeah
as
far
as
I'll
just
go
through
some
of
the
things
that
were
brought
up
as
far
as
the
trail
connection
to
the
eagle
bike
park.
Honestly,
the
ball.
In
our
opinion,
the
ball
is
in
the
County's
court.
T
Right
now
approve
our
plans,
and
you
have
the
trail
it'll
be
done
tomorrow,
approve
the
construction
plans,
it'll
be
done
so
so
we
are
again
we
we
have
been
working
very
closely
with
County
staff.
The
County
engineer,
we've
even
met
with
the
board
of
County
Commissioners
two
months
ago
to
discuss
this
issue.
So
we
are.
We
are
definitely
committed
to
getting
this
Trail
installed,
constructed
ahead
of
time,
Miss,
hacker
or
Acker
I'm,
not
sure.
If
there
was
a
nature
in
a
it,
she
makes
it
sound
like
it's
easy.
T
It's
it's
not
that
easy
there.
It's
not
just
opening
some
gates
when
you
own
private
property
and
you're,
inviting
people
to
ride
horses
and
bicycles
through
your
property
when
it's
owned
by
a
company
and
a
corporation,
even
if
it
was
owned
by
an
individual.
There
needs
to
be
easements.
These
Trails
have
construction
standards.
They
have
to
be
constructed
in
a
certain
manner,
because
this
is
a
Regional
Trail.
It's
not
just
go
make
a
trail,
so
safety
is
also
she
expressed.
The
concern
about
safety
safety
is
also
a
concern
of
us.
T
This
Trail
is
going
through
a
piece
of
the
development
that
hasn't
been
developed
yet
and
will
have
a
lot
a
lot
of
Hillside
construction
going
on.
These
are
very
large,
very
dangerous
machines
that
are
driving
sometimes
at
high
speeds,
and
it's
not
safe
to
have
people
riding
horses
and
bikes
through
this
area.
We
have
a
plan
to
fix
that
and
to
make
it
work,
but
it's
not
as
easy
as
just
opening
two
gates
and
letting
people
ride
horses
on
your
property.
It
sounds
like
it
should
be
easy,
but
it's
it's
not.
T
It
was
already
brought
up.
We
do
have
a
condition
already
on
when
these
Trails
need
to
be
dedicated.
We're
in
compliance
with
that.
The
ability
for
this
board
to
add
new
conditions
tonight
is
not
is
not
an
option
that
can
happen
at
a
later
date.
If
we
make
an
application
for
an
amendment
or
it
goes
to
the
board
of
County
Commissioners,
they
do
have
the
ability
to
add
some
some
conditions
on
there.
But
again
we
already
have
a
condition
of
approval
for
these
trails
and
we're
committed
to
exceeding
that
condition.
T
Building
these
Trails
before
we're
required
to
the
fire
station
property
has
been
donated
to
Eagle
fire
already
that
that
property
has
already
been
donated
to
them.
It's
not
something
we
need
to
do
in
the
future.
It's
in
their
ownership
now,
as
Leon
mentioned
they're
deciding
if
they
still
need
a
fire
station
at
that
piece
of
property,
that's
out
of
our
control,
that's
out
of
our
hands,
but
we
have
done
our
part
by
dedicate
trading
the
land
to
Eagle
fire
department.
At
this
time,.
T
We
are
in
compliance
with
all
of
our
conditions
of
approval
and
we
are
in
compliance
with
the
development
plan.
I
think
it
would
be
difficult
to
find,
even
though
the
residents
May
not
be
happy
with
everything,
that's
happened
or
the
progress
that
we've
made
and
although
we
there's
some
concern
that
we
may
not
be
able
to
comply
with
some
conditions
in
the
future.
T
As
of
today,
we
are
in
compliance
with
all
of
our
conditions
of
approval
outside
of
the
conservation
advisory
committee
meeting,
which
we
have
committed
to
having
next
month
in
October,
we
we
have
hired
a
new
conservation
director.
There
was
some
issues
with
that.
We've
got
that
straightened
out
now
and
we've
committed
to
having
that
conservation
advisory
committee
meeting
that
annual
meeting
that
needs
to
be
held
next
month.
T
That
will
bring
us
into
compliance
with
that,
and
at
that
time
we
will
not
be
out
of
compliance
with
any
condition
of
approval
or
anything
within
the
development
plan
and
I.
Think
that
I
think
I'll
just
and
and
end
with
that
again
we
request
that
you
do
forward
a
recommendation
to
the
board
of
County
Commissioners
indicating
that
we
are
in
compliance
with
the
development
plan,
because
we
are
and
I'll
end
with
that
any.
F
A
I
F
T
Mr
chairman
commissioner
blitman
yeah
they're
the
same
thing
it's
so
the
there
is
a
wildlife
conservation
plan.
There
is
a
wildlife
conservation
board
of
directors
which
is
separate
from
the
conservation
advisory
committee.
It
gets
very
confusing
and
I
learned
a
lot
about
it
over
the
last
couple
of
months
trying
to
figure
out
what
what
we
need
to
do
and
how
we
need
to
do
it.
But
the
the
the
conservation
advisory
committee
is
a
committee
that
was
required
with
a
condition
of
approval
for
the
overall
development
plan.
T
It's
comprised
of
five
five
members,
the
developer,
a
representative
from
the
the
HOA
Ada
County.
What
Connor
used
to
be
I
representative
Brent
was
our
first
representative,
then
we
had
Connor
I
think
we're
going
to
get
Brent
back
again.
Now
a
person
from
the
Idaho
Fish
and
Game
Idaho,
Fish
and
Game
is
on
that
committee
and
then
the
conservation
director
who's,
a
non-voting
member,
Idaho,
Fish
and
Game
has
said
we.
We
actually
kind
of
benefit
from
some
of
the
actions
taken
by
this
board.
T
So
we're
going
to
say
we're
not
a
voting
member
we'll
come
we'll,
provide
input,
we'll
provide
ideas
for
projects,
but
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
vote
on
them
because
we
actually
benefit
from
the
money
that's
being
spent.
So
we
actually
have
a
committee.
That's
made
up
of
five
members.
Four
of
them
are
Vote
or
three
of
them
are
voting.
T
Actually,
sorry,
there's
a
there's,
a
Treasurer
as
well,
so
there's
another
person
on
there.
So
it's
a
committee
that
we
have
a
condition
of
approval
and
it
handles
basically
the
administration
of
the
funds.
What
projects
are
going
to
be
funded
by
the
funds
that
are
collected
for
each
each
home
and
it's
it's
the
funds.
T
The
way
the
fund
is
funding
is
set
up,
it's
300
on
every
transaction,
so,
basically,
when
a
home
is
sold,
it's
300
and
then
it's
five
dollars
a
month,
so
sixty
dollars
a
year
is
contributed
per
home
into
this
Fund
in
perpetuity.
So
it'll
build
up
quite
a
bit
of
money
over
the
time
and
and
we're
really
excited
about
the
the
two
big
projects
that
we've
done
so
far
and
that'll
be
part
of
our
our
meeting
coming
up
next
month
is
to
to
find
some
other
really
exciting
projects
that
we
can
fund.
T
That
will
make
a
big
impact
to
the
wildlife
in
in
southeast
Idaho.
F
T
F
So
you
mentioned,
the
funds
are
a
really
important
part
and,
and
we're
going
to
benefit
Wildlife.
How
do
the
homeowners
get
transparency
into
that
into
those
funds
like?
Is
it
posted
on
a
website?
Is
it
public
information?
How
do
people
know
what
that
money
was?
You
know
how
that
money
was
handled.
Sure.
T
I
think
that's,
probably
some
of
the
concern
that
the
the
residents
have
expressed
is
that
transparency
and
so
I
think
moving
forward
with
our
new
conservation
director
we've
talked
about
having
you
know
some
a
website
or
a
link
on
the
website
that
that
talks
about
these
issues
and
that
we
can
kind
of
promote
some
of
the
really
good
things
that
their
contributions
are
going
to
not
just
in
the
community
that
they
live
in,
but
in
in
the
state
of
Idaho.
Actually.
A
Any
other
questions
for
the
applicant.
Thank
you,
Mr
Tucker,
all
right.
Well!
That
concludes
the
public,
testimony
portion
of
the
meeting
with
respect
to
this
project,
and
so
we're
going
to
open
the
floor
up
to
the
Commissioners
for
a
motion
with
respect
to
a
recommendation,
after
which
we
can
have
a
discussion
among
the
commissioners.
B
F
I
hope
that
we
go
with
the
first
item,
which
is
Dry
Creek
Grants,
just
developed
in
substantial
coordinates
with
the
development
plan,
and
work
can
continue
with
the
following
items
as
as
concerns
that
we
want
to
be
addressed
by
the
board
of
County
Commissioners
or
in
in
future.
You
know
discussions
and
those
concerns
are
the
wildlife
mitigation
plan
meetings,
the
trailhead
connecting
avivore
and
eagle.
A
F
I
would
just
say
that
construction
is
halted
because
of
the
non-compliance
with
the
wildlife
mitigation
plan.
So
I
I
think
that
there
is
another
mechanism.
That's
going
to
stop
that
that
one
non-compliance
thing
and
I
I,
don't
know
that
I
can
identify
adverse
economic
impacts
and,
and
honestly
the
surveys
from
the
from
the
residents
were
were
fairly
positive.
F
If
you
look
through
all
of
the
different
questions
and
even
the
question
that
said,
we
didn't
have
the
infrastructure,
but
they
were
okay
with
Transportation,
so
I
thought
that
was
interesting
because
those
are
kind
of
the
same
questions,
so
I
felt
like
the
responses
from
the
residents.
Even
though
there's
lots
of
detailed
responses,
the
overall
responses
were
were
like
things
were,
moving
along.
I
I,
just
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
they
were
they're
in
compliance
currently
I,
don't
want
to
punish
them
for
a
potential
future
violation.
I
think
that
the
concerns
that
commissioner
blitman
put
forward
are
very
much
valid
and
I
appreciate
that
she
did
that,
so
that
they
can
be
something
that
is
viewed
by
the
Ada
County
Board
of
Commissioners,
but
I.
Don't
think
it
warrants
essentially
punishing
them
for
violations
that
they
haven't
committed.
Yet
so
I
do
think
that
the
plan
that
they
came
forward
with
was
very
comprehensive.
I
I
mean
it's
made
me
want
to
live
there
and
I.
It
was.
It
looks
like
they're
doing
some
great
things,
and
the
understanding
is
some
of
the
dates
on
here
are
in
the
2030s,
so
that,
yes,
unfortunately,
you
can't
have
everything
right
now,
but
as
they
build
out
from
what
we've
seen
it
looks
like
other
than
the
wildlife
piece
and
the
concern
that
they
may
not
be
on
track
with
the
preservation
of
the
historical
buildings.
I
Everything
else
looks
really
good.
I
believe
in
this
situation.
I
feel
like
having
dealt
with
some
other
planned
communities
in
my
life,
their
plan.
It
seems
pretty
pretty
impressive
compared
to
somewhere,
they
were
just
like.
Well,
we
don't
necessarily
have
to
they're
leaning
forward
in
some
areas
showing
the
people
showing
the
HOA
at
the
HOA
meeting
and
again
just
unfortunately,
a
lot
of
the
comments
that
came
in
were
about
the
HOA
that
were
negative
and
I.
I
C
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
yeah
I
agree
with
the
comments
that
have
been
so
been
made
and
a
management
company
can
cause
it
on
nature,
away
a
lot
of
problems
and
a
lot
of
anger
and
disrupt
things,
and
they
they've
taken
another
path
and
we'll
see
how
that
plays
out.
C
As
far
as
the
the
preservation
of
the
buildings
that'd
be
nice,
but
there's
only
so
much
money
right
now
and
those
are
going
to
be
some
expensive
projects
and
if
they
don't
get
completed
right
away,
that's
not
going
to
have
an
economic
detriment
to
the
development
really
for
right
now,
but
I
I
think
it's
worth
putting
here
so
that
it's
on
their
list.
A
H
B
A
Can
tell
you
projects
like
that?
Take
planning
if
you
didn't
have
the
money
budgeted
for
it,
where's
that
money
going
to
come
from,
and
so
here
we've
got
a
requirement
with
respect
to
those
buildings
to
have
them
done
within
less
than
a
year,
and
yet
no
money,
no
plans
and-
and
you
could
say
even
if
it
was
on
the
20th
and
the
due
date
to
get
it
done,
was
the
21st
well
they've
still
got
time,
but
it's
going
to
be
highly
unlikely.
A
It's
going
to
get
done
with
Wildlife
mitigation
plan,
it's
again
the
same
issue
as
well.
Why?
Why
isn't
it
done?
Why?
What
has
been
going
on
and
and
then
to
Mr
Sims
point
about
no
transparency
with
respect
to
the
financials
with
regard
to
the
buildings
and
the
wildlife
mitigation
plan,
the
financials
would
have
told
you
something
about
what
was
being
planned
and
where
the
money
was
going
to
come
from
and
how
much
it
was
going
to
cost,
and
so
so.
A
I,
don't
think
that
you
have
to
come
to
say
that
there
has
been,
as
this
is
drafted,
that
that
there
has
been
undue
adverse
impacts.
The
Andor
was
Dry
Creek
Ranch
is
not
developed
in
substantial
accordance
with
the
development
plan,
and
so
it's
are
these
things
that
we
have
identified
enough
to
say.
That
is
not
in
substantial
accordance
or
are
they
of
such
importance
that
they
outweigh
some
of
the
other
things
that
are
being
done.
A
Where
you
come
back
and
say,
look
these
have
to
get
done
or
we're
freezing
your
project,
because
these
are
too
important
to
just
not
have
completed,
and
so
so
what
I
would
like
to
see-
and
it's
not
my
place
to
to
dictate
it.
But
if
we're
going
to
make
a
recommendation,
I
would
like
to
have
there
be
teeth
in
that
recommendation.
A
They
either
disagreed
or
strongly
disagreed
about
where
the
infrastructure
development
has
gone
to
this
point,
and
so
my
recommendation
would
be
if
there's
no
way
to
put
teeth
into
the
enforcement
of
the
three
specific
items
that
commissioner
blitman
has
mentioned.
That
I
would
go
with
number
two
I'd
say:
no,
it's
not
been
developed
in
substantial
accordance
with
development
plan.
A
We'd,
be
here
a
year
or
two
from
now,
and
the
building
still
wouldn't
be
done.
Wildlife
mitigation
plan
might
not
be
in
place.
Trailheads
won't
be
connected,
nor
plans
for
connecting
them,
so
I
I'm
frustrated,
but
emotion
has
been
made
and
seconded.
So
if
there's
no
further
discussion,
we'll
put
it
to
a
vote
so
I
ask.
Is
there
any
further
discussion
before
we
vote
on
that
motion?
Mr.
I
Chair
I
have
commissioner
Scott,
so
I
I,
disagree,
I,
think
there
are
teeth
and
we've
seen
that
they've
stopped
plotting
because
of
this
Wildlife
plan.
That's
the
teeth.
They
can't
do
anything
going
forward
with
as
of
right
now
because
they
violated
one
thing,
and
you
say
you
say:
there's
the
teeth
are
in
when
they
break
that
in
July
of
21st
of
2024.
I
Those
teeth
will
come
to
bear
on
them
once
again
when,
when
they
are
having
to
once
again
stop
construction
because
they're
in
violation,
that's
the
teeth,
I,
don't
think
again,
we
can
put
conditions
of
teeth
on
top
of
the
already
conditions
of
teeth
that
already
are
in
place.
They
have
until
July,
21st
and
you're
right.
I
If
it's
the
20th,
then
you
may
not
be
able
they're,
definitely
not
going
to
be
able
to
to
meet
that
Mark,
but
on
the
21st
first,
you
best
believe
the
staff
is
probably
going
to
bring
that
up
and
it's
going
to
come
to
bear
on
them
and
that's
where
I
disagree
that
I
think
that
telling
the
board
hey
keep
an
eye
on.
This
is
the
right
approach
rather
than
saying
you.
I
This
is
a
problem
now
when
it's
not
technically
legally
a
problem,
we're
talking
about
you're
on
your
way
to
a
.08
blowing
on
alcohol,
but
you're
not
there.
Yet
so
you
haven't
broken
the
law.
So
that's
what
I'm
saying
is.
We
are
we're
trying
to
assume
future
non-compliance
right
now,
and
so
that's
what
I'm,
trying
to
I,
don't
think
that's
correct
to
do.
I
think
we
should
I
think
there
are
teeth.
I
I,
think
those
teeth
have
been
shown
when
Leon
told
us
that
they
they
put
on
they
stopped
building
because
they
weren't
in
compliance
of
this
Wildlife
plan
do
I
think
they
can
get
the
this.
The
stuff
done
with
the
story,
historical
step,
massillate
I,
don't
know
I'm
skeptical,
but
I.
Don't
they
have
time
I
mean
with
enough
money.
You
can
I've
seen
companies
put
Rockets
into
space
in
a
matter
of
three
years,
so
I
mean
yeah.
E
I'm
I'm
gonna
have
to
say
I'm
I'm,
pretty
much
in
agreeance
with
commissioner
Scott
and
the
reason
is:
is
there
that
is
the
teeth
that
they
can't
do
any
more
plots
you
you
know
say
they
they
follow
suit
and,
and
they
get
everything
with
this
meeting
on
the
natural
features
and
stuff
like
that,
and
that
goes
through
then
they're
free
to
start
doing
new
preliminary
plots
and
stuff
like
that,
but
if
they
don't
follow
through
with
with
the
next
one
they're
shut
back
down,
so
I
mean,
as
far
as
the
teeth
is
I
mean
in
my
opinion,
they
haven't
violated.
E
Anything
I
mean
I'm
in
the
residential
business
and
and
to
be
honest,
the
historical
district,
even
as
tough
as
they
are
to
work
with
a
Year's
amount
of
time
or
even
six
months.
Six
months
amount
of
time.
It
can
be
done.
You
know,
I
I'm,
not
I
mean
I've.
Seen
it
done
you
you
know,
and,
and
so
I
don't
think
it's
out
of
the
realm
of
their
capabilities.
To
get
it
done.
E
Do
I
think
that
there
should
have
been
a
better
plan
and,
and
things
should
have
been
presented
better
and
and
be
ready
to
go
and
have
budgets
and
all
that
type
of
stuff
absolutely
but
I
I
think
it
could
be
done
and
I
don't
think
that
they're
in
in
violation,
I
mean
they're
in
violation
and
they're
held
right
now,
but
but
for
the
other
aspects,
I
I
am
going
to
agree
with
the
motion.
That's
put
in
front
of
us
just
because
just
hey
watch
this
and
if
they
hit
it
again
boom.
E
You
know
and
I
mean
you
know,
your
actions
speak
louder
than
words.
You
know
I
mean
they
got.
How
big
of
a
development
is
this
going
to
end
up
being
it's
going
to
be
huge,
I
mean
if
they
violate
the
next
one.
They
violate
the
next
one
when
they
go
to
the
next
phases.
Is
the
commission
going
to
be
a
lot
more
likely
to
step
back
and
be
like
no
we're
going
to
now
put
stronger
ones
on
them?
E
You
know
I
mean
it's
in
their
best
case
to
hit
those
with
as
big
a
development
as
this
is
I
mean
you
know,
you're
talking
10
15
years
before
this
might
even
be
fully
done
so
I
mean,
like
I,
said,
the
the
actions
speak
louder
than
words,
and
if
it's
me,
I'm
making
sure
that
I'm
following
through
and
I'm
hitting
that
date,
because
yeah
I
want
to
show
that
I'm
going
to
do
what
I
I
say.
I
do
you
know
so
that's
without
telling
them
to
watch
watch
it.
E
You
know,
I
think
is
probably
our
best
Avenue,
and
so
that's
about
all
I
got
okay.
A
F
You
know
I
kind
of
am
reading
that
second
part,
and
it
says
the
consequence
if
we
vote
on
the
second
part,
is
they're
going
to
initiate
public
hearings
to
investigate
and
adopt
changes
to
the
development
plan
to
mitigate
undo
adverse
impacts
and
I
I
just
still
have
a
hard
time
understanding.
What
undo
adverse
impacts
has
happened
because
of
the
substantial.
F
B
A
F
And
I
guess
my
my
thought
is
you're
unnoticed,
but
you
know
the
things
that
you
need
to
do
are
not
that
hard
fulfilling
your
requirements
to
hold
the
wildlife
mitigation
plan
meeting,
not
that
hard
hold
the
homeowners
meetings,
not
that
hard.
So.
A
All
right,
the
that
concludes
the
portion
of
our
meeting
for
projects.
The
next
item
is
approval
of
minutes.
You
got
two
sets
of
minutes
in
front
of
you
and
I'll
explain
why
you
have
two
sets
of
minutes
in
front
of
you
for
the
July
13th
meeting.
There
were
a
number
of
people
absent.
Commissioner
Exton,
commissioner
retzlaff
commissioner
Colson
were
absent,
then
on
the
August
10th
Meeting.
Those
folks
who
are
absent
were
here,
but
the
people
that
were
present
at
the
July
13th
meeting.
A
Most
of
them
were
not,
and
so
it
was
like
there's
a
level
of
of
concern
about
approving
minutes
when
the
people
that
would
have
been
approving
them
were
not
here
when
the
meeting
was
held.
So
that's
why
you
have
two
sets
of
minutes
and
I
think
we
now
have
enough
people
here
that
can
approve
both
sets
so
I'm.
Looking
for
a
motion
with
respect
to
the
minutes
or.
N
I
I
C
I
N
A
E
A
A
All
right,
I
think
we're
on
to
the
next
question:
the
Ada
County
County
Commissioners
meeting.
Yes,.
N
So
last
night
we
had
that
subdivision
with
septic
trouble
still
hasn't
made.
It.
N
Tabled
it
again,
we'll
see
if
we
get
it
done
in
October,
that's
the
one
out
at
McDermott
and
victory.
N
N
We
had
the
contractor's
yard
off
of
Banner
Street.
If
anyone
remembers
that
one
I
think
you
had
it
two
months
ago,
maybe
it
was
a
month
ago,
I
apologize.
These
are
I
inherited
a
lot
of
Connor
projects,
which
may
have
been
why
some
of
this
has
taken
longer
than
usual
I
apologize.
That
was
one
of
Connor's
projects.
You
recommended
approval.
N
Foul
and
so
in
all
fairness,
so
we're
gonna
go
research,
it
and
figure
out
what
happened
and
we've
had
we're,
having
discussions
with
acht
about
our
ability
to
ask
for
improvements
beyond
what
they're
putting
in
their
review
letters.
So
it's
kind
of
an
interesting
time
actually
very,
like
nerdy
planning
level.
N
You
know
what
are
we
legally
allowed
to
do
in
that
regard
so
that
that
was
an
interesting
one,
but
that
was
table
two
next
month
we
had
a
two
lot
subdivision
out
off
of
Cloverdale
Road
Morgan
boulderman,
Boulder,
State
subdivision
that
was
approved,
and
then
we
had
a
commercial
kennel
out
on
Chinden
Boulevard
also
include
the
variants,
so
it
was
a
CU
and
MSP
that
had
a
variant.
So
that's
why
you
didn't
see
it.
It
went
straight
to
the
board.
N
It
was
for
100
animals,
majority
of
which
were
dogs
housed
inside
a
barn
and
then
outdoor
runs
and
a
neighboring
property
owner
was
opposed
due
to
livestock
that
they
own
and
run
on
their
property,
and
so
the
board
ultimately
denied
it
and
largely
their
denial
is
based
on
the
variance
request,
which
was
pretty
high
bar
in
terms
of
there's.
A
600
foot
setback
required
for
commercial
kennels
that
have
outdoor
run
areas
so
600
feet
from
that
run
to
the
property
line,
and
this
property
wasn't
even
600
feet
wide.
N
F
Just
had
a
question
about
article
I
saw
in
the
newspaper
about
the
Boise
City,
so
the
Boise
city
council
did
something
that
was
different
than
what
they're
planning
and
zoning
commission
had.
Okay,.
N
F
N
I,
don't
think
so.
You
know
we
write
our.
We
do
our
things
differently
than
city
of
Boise
at
the
city
of.
N
Else,
yeah
I'd
be
happy
to
so
I.
You
all
knew
I
came
from
City
of
Boise,
worked
on
that
project
and
a
lot
of
other
ones
like
it
and
the
the
practice,
the
city
of
Boise
at
the
time
that
I
was
there
I,
don't
know
if
this
is
still.
The
case
was
to
summarize
findings
into
a
paragraph
statement
as
to
how
the
project
complies,
and
so
here
at
the
county
we
have
a
line
by
line,
here's
finding
one
through
12,
and
we
write
a
specific
statement
to
each
finding
and
so
I.
N
N
But
here
at
the
county
yeah
we
break
ours
out
line
by
line,
and
so
you
don't
quite
see
the
same
thing,
but
it
is
a
good
you
know.
For
me,
it
was
a
in
interesting
to
see
one
of
my
projects
that
was
drugged
through
the
ring
or
two
I
went
to
the
district
court
and
then
went
to
Supreme
Court,
which
isn't
usually
what
happens,
and
it
was
interesting
to
see
just
the
outcome
of
that
and
be
interesting
to
see
what
the
city
of
Boise
does
with
that
moving
forward.
N
Yeah,
thank
you
Commissioners.
We
we've
got
a
busy
agenda
in
October
already
and
then
the
peg
Industries
project,
if
you
recall,
Five
Mile,
on
Lake
Hazel.
This
was
the
large
the
multi-family
development
that
had.
N
Yeah
so
they
had
like
detached
single-family
homes
and
duplexes,
but
they're
not
on
individual
Lots
they're,
all
it's
a
four
rent
product,
that's
coming
back,
and
so,
as
a
result
of
that,
we
are
asking
for
a
second
meeting
in
October
because
we're
just
not
going
to
get
everything
done.
That
second
meeting
will
largely
be
dedicated
to
that
large
project.
So
I.
N
I
mean
that
was
one
of
the
reasons.
Ultimately,
you
know
we
don't
have
to
take
boys's
recommendation
and
I
don't
want
to
get
into
the
specifics
of
this
too
much,
because
we
don't
want
to
bias
ourselves
for
a
future
decision,
but
the
outcome
of
the
previous
project
was
yes.
There
was
a
desire
by
the
city
of
Boise
to
have
a
mix
of
uses
and
then
a
desire
by
the
community
to
have
the
project.
N
The
property
just
goes
straight:
commercial
with
no
residential,
because
it's
currently
zoned
commercial
and
part
of
the
request
was
to
add
residential
or
to
change
the
zoning
to
residential
to
do
a
residential
product.
So
I'm
not
gonna,
again
share
too
much
the
details
of
the
project
with
you
yet
because
we're
just
now
starting
to
review
it.
But
it
is
a
mixed-use
project
at
that
location,
Lockwood
and
five
mile
south
of
like
the
Zam
I,
think
zamzo's.
N
E
E
N
N
I
know
Luke
would
like
us
to
not
have
any
backup
hearings
and
we've
tried
hard
to
stay
out
of
them
in
2023,
but
this
one,
it's
October
is
busy
enough
that
it
just
wouldn't
we
wouldn't
get
anything
done
and
November
is
busy
too,
and
so
it's
just
one
of
those
things
where
we
have
a
standard
where
we
have
to
bring
an
application
to
hearing
by
a
certain
time
frame.
Otherwise
it's
just
automatically
denied
and
it
never
looks
good
for
us
to
automatically
deny
something
because
we
can't
schedule
it
for
a
hearing.