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A
Okay,
welcome
everyone
to
the
meeting
of
the
joint
strategic
committee.
I
just
want
to
say
a
particular
welcome
to
the
members
from
ada
and
worthing
to
our
officers
to
the
people.
Who've
come
tonight
from
the
middle
of
the
public
to
those
people
who
are
listening
in
online
and
a
special
welcome
to
my
mum
who's
at
her
first
council
meeting,
hello
mum.
A
All
right,
I
got
before
we
get
started
folks,
I'm
going
to
read
the
health
and
safety
announcement.
There's
no
fire
alarm
planned
during
this
meeting.
Therefore,
if
fire
alarm
sounds,
please
leave
by
the
nearest
exit
and
go
to
the
assembly
point
do
not
stop
to
collect
your
belongings.
The
assembly
point
is
to
the
front
of
the
museum
in
chapel
road.
Please
remain
in
the
assembly
point
until
advisor
is
safe
to
return
to
the
building
and
any
persons
with
mobility
issues
must
head
to
the
nearest
stairwell
and
await
further
instructions.
A
A
Okay,
I'm
going
to
take
that
as
a
no
move
on
to
number
two,
which
is
the
minutes.
The
committee
is
asked
to
approve
the
minutes
of
the
joint
strategic
committee
meeting
held
on
16th
of
march
2022.
May
I
assume
that
we're
all
in
agreement?
If
anybody's
not,
can
they
now
indicate
please,
okay,
those
minutes
are
agreed
fantastic.
A
We
now
go
to
the
public
question
time
now.
I've
not
received
any
questions
from
the
public
in
advance
of
the
meeting,
but
I'm
certainly
happy
to
take
any
questions
from
members
sitting
in
the
gallery
tonight,
obviously
with
the
proviso
that
we
may
need
to
go
away
and
answer
them
after
the
meeting
and
provide
a
written
response,
but
nonetheless,
I'm
very
happy
to
take
public
questions.
If
there
are
any
yes.
B
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much.
First
of
my
apologies
that
the
first
question
I
think
both
I
have
two
questions.
Actually,
the
first
question
was
for
the
the
leader
of
the
council
who's.
Not
here
tonight.
I
don't
know
if
she,
after
apologies
or
she's
coming,
but
I
didn't
hear
that
part
of
it,
but
this
will
be
put
to
the
labour
group
anyway.
B
My
first
question
is
so
the
labor
groups
for
some
months
has
claimed
that
it
is
ready
and
is
an
administration
in
waiting
yeah.
Here
we
are
four
weeks
after
the
election
and
this
labour
group
has
failed
to
identify
and
clearly
set
out
to
the
public
who
their
executive
members
are
and
what
they
were
responsible
for
the
council
web
pages-
and
I
checked
these
this
afternoon-
they're
blank.
It
doesn't
show
anybody
on
there.
B
So
I
did
have
a
question
for
the
member
for
health
and
well-being,
but
I've
had
to
shelve
that
one
for
the
moment,
because
I
don't
know
who
it
is
so,
who
are
you
supposed
to
ask
these
questions
to
or
who
are
members
of
the
public
supposed
to
ask
these
questions
too?
This
week
we've
got
two
key
meetings
tonight:
jsc
and
josk.
On
thursday.
B
These
should
be
to
specific
people,
as
was
happened
under
the
conservative
administration,
because
you
always
used
to
say
you're
going
to
hold
us
to
account.
The
the
labour
group
also
need
to
be
held
to
account.
So
can
somebody
tell
me,
should
have
been
the
leader?
When
will
this
labour
administration
sort
out
the
shambles
and
let
the
public
know
this
information
you've
had
plenty
of
time.
A
I'm
very
happy
to
answer
that.
Councilman
donald
I'm,
mr
mcdonald,
you
didn't
introduce
yourself,
so
I
used
your
county
title
but.
A
Is
public
question
simon,
I'm
a
member
of
the
yeah?
Thank
you,
mr
mcdonald.
I'm
going
to
answer
your
question.
So
it's
actually
it's
a
fair
point.
It's
it's
we're
in
a
process
now
where
we
are
changing
the
portfolios
and
as
a
result
of
changing
the
portfolio,
because
we
think
there
are
better
ways
to
organize
our
portfolios
that
meet
the
public
needs
in
a
way
that
maybe
they
weren't
met
prior
to
the
administration
coming
in.
So
for
us,
but
that
takes
time
you
know
it.
Does
it's
not
straightforward?
A
It's
not
something
you
do
overnight,
because
we
want
to
get
it
right.
If
we
don't
get
it
right
early,
we
find
ourselves
in
a
position
with
portfolios
that
don't
actually
respond
to
what
the
public
need.
We
think
we've
got
there
now
and
we're
now
in
a
position
to
publish
these
and
they'll
be
published
very
soon.
A
It's
a
fair
point,
however,
in
terms
of
getting
getting
that
done
at
asap,
but
I
wanted
to
get
it
done
properly
with
regards
to
to
kind
of
going
forward,
I
should
mention
that
there's
an
awful
lot
of
work
going
on
behind
the
scenes.
A
lot
of
conversations
between
portfolio
leads
and
between
the
officers
to
start
these
programs
of
work,
they're
quite
ambitious
programs
of
work
and
we're
engaging
on
those.
But
this
will
this
information
will
be
made
available
to
the
public
very
soon.
B
Thank
you
so
the
first
I
don't
have
a
supplementary
question
to
that.
If
that's
okay,
but
that
just
shows
that
you
were,
you
are
not
ready
and
you
are
not
in
administration
in
waiting.
It's
easy,
not
giving
any
timelines
for
this,
but
my
second
part
of
the
question
again
had
to
go
to
the
leader,
because
I
don't
know
who
this
should
go
to
though,
but
I
just
was
I'd-
ask
her
to
clarify
her
comments.
You
may
wish
to
put
this
in
a
written
response
to
me.
B
She's
quoted
in
that
herald
on
the
31st
of
may,
where
she
states
that
they're
committed
to
to
people
having
a
fair,
decent
living
wage,
so
I
don't
know
which
living
wage
she's
referring
to,
because
the
government
sets
the
national
living
wage,
the
real
living
wage
and,
if
so,
what
would
be
the
financial
impact
to
the
cost
on
local
taxpayers?
B
A
I'll
certainly
gladly
give
it
a
go.
Mr
mcdonald,
I
think
obviously
I
can't
speak
for
councillor
cooper
in
terms
of
the
the
comments
that
she
was
making,
but
but
what's
important,
I
think,
is
our
commitment
to.
I
want
to
answer
two
parts,
because
you
actually
went
to
two
separate
points
there.
The
first
one
is
our
commitment
to
paying
staff
properly.
A
Now,
I'm
sure
you
know
that
you
can
call
something
a
living
wage,
but
it's
not
necessarily
a
living
wage,
because
there's
different
definitions
of
what
a
minimum
wage
is,
what
a
living
wage
is,
what
a
minimum
income
standard
are.
There
are
different
ways
of
kind
of
tagging
and
looking
at
the
way
that
wages
are
in
related
to
costs
and
the
cost
of
living
we're
living
in
a
cost
of
living
crisis.
That's
very
clear:
we
have
record
numbers
of
people
using
food
banks.
We
have
public
service,
public
sector
workers
using
food
banks.
A
I
know
this
from
a
personal
experience
and
we've
got
54
percent
of
people
in
our
country
in
work
who
are
living
in
relative
poverty.
As
a
result
of
that,
what
counselor
cooper,
I
suspect,
would
have
been
alluding
to
was
our
commitment
to
doing
everything
we
possibly
can
to
pay
our
workers
as
as
good
as
decent
a
wage
as
possible,
so
that
they
can
support
their
families.
They
can
meet
high
energy
costs
and
they
can
feed
their
families.
A
A
I'm
sorry
I'm
sorry,
mr
mcdonald,
that
was
your
supplementary,
I'm
very
happy
if
you
would
like
to
ask
a
second
question,
but
not
a
return
on
that
question.
Thank.
B
B
So
on
the
26th
of
march
councillor
cooper
at
the
public
demonstration
about
chatsmore
farm,
which
I
was
in
attendance
at,
as
were
members
of
the
conservatives,
the
lib
dems
and
the
labour
party
is
a
cross-party
support
for
this,
but
she
did
say
that
we
will
meet
our
responsibility
for
maintaining
the
green
spaces.
B
B
I
do
agree.
We
do
have
to
protect
these
the
fight
to
challenge
this
appalling
planning
decision,
which
I
don't
agree
with,
and
I
don't
think
anyone
in
this
room
agrees
with
it'll
allow
the
appeal
on
chat,
small.
The
chat
small
team
has
always
been
led
as
a
cross-party
campaign.
Of
course,
the
conservative
administration
pledged
that
would
fight
this
decision
in
the
house.
B
So
just
make
these
awesome,
so
the
question
is:
if
these
paper
these
papers
are
being
prepared.
This
will
not
be
just
council
officers,
the
legal
team.
Could
you
confirm
today
that
the
labour
administration
will
follow
its
words
with
deeds
and
support
the
appeal
all
the
way
through
to
the
high
court?
I
know
this
could
be
quite
expensive,
but
I
just
wanted
clarification
and
that's
what
I'm
asking
for
not.
We
are
preparing
papers.
B
I'm
really
pleased
to
hear
that,
and
it
was
just
that
it
was.
It
wasn't
sorry.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
smith,
donald
appreciate
that
any
more
public
questions
before
we
move
on
to
the
next
item:
okay,
lovely.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
So
the
next
items
items
for
which
is
the
items
raised
under
urgency
provisions.
I
have
not
been
advised
of
any
urgent
items
of
business
to
be
considered
at
this
evening's
meeting
item
five.
This
is
the
chief
executive's
use
of
urgency
powers
to
settle
the
waste
dispute.
Can
the
chief
executive,
dr
howe,
please
introduce
the
report
before
us.
Please.
C
C
I
am
sure
all
members
are
aware
of
the
recent
strike
action
and
the
work
that
we
did
to
resolve
that
I
would
like
to
before.
We
go
into
the
implications
report
here
to
thank
colleagues
across
the
floor
and
also
my
staff,
who
worked
really
hard
to
get
this
sorted.
I
think
these
are
really
difficult.
C
We
did
take
the
decision
in
consultation
with
leaders
at
the
time
in
order
to
move
forward,
to
resolve
the
dispute
and,
as
you
can
see,
that
that
has
had
a
financial
implication
which
mrs
goby
can
talk
us
through,
and
I
think
the
the
thing
here
is
to
say
that
that
that
decision
was
taken
in
consultation.
It
was
very
much
it
was.
C
It
was
very
much
seen
as
necessary
to
move
us
forward
and
I'm
very
comfortable
with
it,
but
we
will
be
living
with
the
implications
of
that
decision
for
some
time
and
I
think
that's
what
this
report
is
as
much
about
bringing
you
those
that
that
decision,
but
also
helping
to
think
what
how
that's
going
to
flow
through
the
rest
of
our
decision
making
over
the
year.
So
ms
scobee.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you
chair.
I
hope
that
the
report
lays
out,
for
you
quite
clearly
the
financial
implications
both
of
the
strike
action
itself
and
actually
the
long-term
implications
of
the
dispute
in
terms
of
increased
salary
costs
and
impact
to
our
commercial
activity
in
bringing
this
forward.
We're
very
much
minded
that
when
we
make
decisions
about
salary
it
should
be
within
the
budget.
D
D
I
just
would
like
to
reflect
a
little
bit
on
the
pressures
that
we're
experiencing
in
the
current
year
to
to
give
you
some
sort
of
background
as
to
why
we
thought
it
was
really
important
that
we
use
the
reserves
to
fund
this
pressure,
because
this
is
not
the
only
pressure
we're
going
to
experience
this
year.
D
Members
were
well
aware
that
inflation
is
currently
nine
percent
and
it's
against
this
background,
that
the
pay
negotiations
are
happening
and
that
will
lead
to
significant
pressure
on
our
paid
budgets
and
we're
expecting
pay
to
increase
by
at
least
four
to
five
percent
and
consequently
we
don't
really
want
any
more
pressures
and
hence
the
recommendation
to
release
and
the
reserves.
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions
on
the
detail
of
the
costings
within
the
report.
If
members
haven't.
A
E
Yeah
thank
you
chair
and,
if
I
may,
the
question,
or
certainly
a
comment
to
the
chief
executive
and
a
question
to
the
chief
finance
officer,
if
I
may,
but
can
I
just
also
put
on
my
thanks
to
the
chief
executive
and
her
team
for
the
for
their
work
in
the
manner
in
which
they
dealt
with
this
particular
dispute
throughout
the
exhibited
high
standards
of
integrity,
to
ensure
the
matters
progressed
as
swiftly
as
possible
and
the
best
interests
of
the
staff
and
the
public
were
always
put
first,
I
think
without
that
robust
approach.
E
The
financial
figures
in
this
report
that
we
see
today
would
have
been
even
more
damaging.
Coming
to
the
report,
in
particular
section
six
over
pages
seven
to
ten.
This
clearly
sets
out
the
direct
cost
of
the
dispute
over
the
two
councils
was
one
point:
one
million
pounds,
albeit
some
of
that
cost-
was
offset
by
salary
savings
and
credential
a
prudent
financial
provision
all
in
place
by
the
last
administration.
E
Nonetheless,
the
cost
to
the
worthy
taxpayers
going
into
22-23
has
required
a
further
371
000
to
be
taken
from
the
general
reserves.
I
note
that
in
her
report,
the
chief
finance
officer
and
section
115
officer
across
section
6,
whilst
commenting
on
the
cost,
has
made
no
mention
of
the
impact
and
risk,
although
it
has
been
alluded
to
now
this
evening.
Nor
is
it
captured
in
the
risk
sustainability
assessment,
so
focusing
on
wording
alone.
E
My
question
is
that
given
this
quite
stern
warning
of
the
31st
of
january
now
the
use
of
these
emergency
powers
to
extract
another
371
000
from
those
reserves
against
a
backdrop
of
rising
pay
costs
and
inflation.
Now
at
nine
percent,
the
budget
provision
was
only
two
percent,
so
each
additional
one
percent
297
000
revenue
cost.
So
the
additional
7
equates
to
another
potential
cost
of
2
million.
E
If
inflation
continues
to
rise
at
this
rate
over
a
12-month
period,
given
those
spends
and
rising
costs
identified
in
the
report
in
these
identical
additional
factors,
can
the
chief
financial
officer
maybe
elaborate
further
on
on
the
risks
that
now
pose
to
the
residents
in
worthing
to
the
current
level
of
financial
risk
to
the
council?
I'm
sure
there's
been
advice
received.
I
think,
really
welcome
to
have
that
known
as
to
what
the
financial
state
of
worthing
is
now.
Please.
D
Thank
you
councillor
jenkins.
There
are
significant
risks.
This
financial
year
you're
quite
right
to
highlight
them,
but
I
suspect
all
members
are
aware
of
what
those
risks
are.
The
risks
are
primarily
inflation
on
our
budgets
and
that
is
showing
up
in
several
different
places.
We
spoke
about
pay.
We
are
expecting
pay
awards
of
at
least
four
percent,
and
I
am
allowing
five
percent
as
a
result
of
this
year's
negotiation.
D
Obviously,
until
the
negotiations
concluded,
we
won't
have
certainty,
but
we
think
that
that
is
a
fair
assessment
of
the
likely
impact.
We're
also
very
aware
of
energy
costs
as
well.
You'll.
Be
aware
that
since
we
set
the
budget,
there's
been
a
war
in
ukraine
and
that
has
had
a
significant
impact
on
the
energy
markets.
D
In
particular,
we
are
seeing
increases
in
diesel
and
we're
expecting
diesel
costs
to
go
up
by
50
we're
expecting
electricity
to
go
up
by
50
percent,
we're
expecting
gas
to
go
up
by
approximately
300
percent
as
a
result
of
the
changes
in
the
energy
market.
We
were
lucky
at
the
time,
but
to
hit
the
market
the
energy
market
at
a
particularly
low
point,
but
consequently
the
increase
when
we
come
to
renew,
which
will
be
this
september,
will
be
at
significant
and
we
are
prepared
for
that
overall.
D
At
this
point
time
of
the
year-
and
I
do
want
to
emphasize-
this
is
a
very
early
point
in
the
year.
We
are
expecting
cost
pressures
for
worthing,
because
this
is
worthing
we're
talking
about
in
the
region
of
about
three
quarters
of
a
million
excluding
excluding
this
cost
of
strike
action.
D
As
a
result
of
that
in
consultation
with
colleagues
officer
colleagues,
we
have
recommended,
or
will
be
recommending
to
the
council
to
take
a
program
of
action
to
help
bring
the
budget
back
in
line
by
the
time
we
get
to
the
end
of
the
financial
year,
and
that
will
be
in
the
report.
That's
coming
to
the
next
jsc,
it's
a
probably
the
third
year.
D
I've
had
to
do
almost
an
emergency
budget
update
as
part
of
the
medium-term
financial
plan,
so
you
will
see
that
in
the
next
quarter,
but
the
actions
we're
taking
are
unsurprising,
we're
recommending
that
we
put
all
of
our
underspend
into
reserves
to
support
the
position
in
the
current
year.
We
will
be
recommending
that
we
review
all
of
our
major
projects
to
see
whether
they're
still
still
likely
to
be
delivered
in
the
current
year,
and
we
will
be
reviewing
our
corporate
budgets
to
identify
underspend
across
the
piece
to
help
us
manage
the
in-ear
position.
A
E
I
may,
if
I
can
please
chair
just
on
that
basis.
Thank
you,
mrs
goby,
for
that
detailed
response.
It
would
be
interesting
to
know
how
the
withdrawal
of
this
summer
371
000,
now
affects
the
percentage
of
net
revenue
expenditure
which
ideally
should
be
held
between
6
and
10.
Are
we
still
achieving
that.
D
I
am
actually
recommending
that
we
take
it
from
the
capacity
issues
reserve,
rather
than
the
working
balance,
to
preserve
the
working
balance
to
manage
the
new
risk
that
we're
currently
experiencing,
and
therefore
the
working
balance,
which
is
six
to
ten
percent,
will
be
at
the
upper
end
of
that.
It's
currently
about
ten
percent.
F
Thanks
chair
not
so
much
a
question
but
but
more
a
statement.
If
that's
acceptable.
A
Yeah,
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
We're
gonna
move
to
debate
in.
A
F
For
clarity,
I
am
the
cabinet
member
for
the
environment.
Thank
you,
chair
and
thank
you,
dr
howard,
mrs
goby,
for
your
report.
This
report
details
the
most
the
cost
implications
of
an
unhappy
and
underpaid
workforce
who
exercised
their
right
to
strike,
to
make
their
voices
and
concerns
heard.
During
the
pandemic.
Our
dedicated
waste
and
cleansing
team
continued
under
enormous
pressure.
F
There
was
a
huge
increase
in
the
volume
of
domestic
waste
produced
during
lockdown.
Tips
were
closed,
but
the
crews
continued
efficiently.
Despite
the
unknown
risks
to
their
own
health.
We
all
clapped
them.
We
regret
that
a
strike
occurred.
It
could
have
been
avoided
with
positive
engagement.
When
issues
were
first
raised
in
december
last
year,
as
a
new
administration,
we
will
work
to
do
everything
we
are
able
to
to
ensure
that
our
excellent
council
staff
are
valued
and
listened
to
moving
forwards.
F
We
need
to
rebuild
the
reputation
of
the
council
as
one
that
respects
its
employees
and
values
their
dedicated,
hard
work.
This
administration
is
engaging
progressively
with
the
joint
unions
and
we
will
continue
to
develop
this
relationship
positively
for
the
good
of
our
workers
and
the
integrity
of
the
council
moving
forwards.
F
This
labour
administration
believes
that
frontline
workers
deserve
a
fair,
decent
living
wage
with
terms
and
conditions
that
allow
them
to
deliver
frontline
roles
to
the
high
standards
for
our
communities,
but
local
government
budgets
have
been
starved
of
funding
for
over
10
years
by
the
irresponsible
national
tory
government.
It's
this
lack
of
funding.
That's
putting
unacceptable
pressure
on
councils
across
the
country
to
deliver
their
most
basic
services
effectively
as
the
cost
of
living
crisis
bites.
A
fair
decent
living
wage
is
more
important
than
ever.
F
We
won't
shy
away
from
making
decisions
about
additional
funding
required
in
exceptional
circumstances.
Like
this,
we
are
aware
that
once
used,
they
will
not
easily
be
replaced,
but
we
also
recognize
that
we
have
been
and
continue
to
live
in
extraordinary
times.
This
is
a
legitimate
use
of
reserves
enabling
the
council
to
continue
to
provide
public
services
when
the
existing
budget
is
not
sadly
sufficient.
A
G
Thank
you
chairman.
We
do
indeed
live
in
extraordinary
times,
but
there
is
only
one
place,
the
money
to
replace
the
reserves
comes
from,
and
that
is
the
council
taxpayer.
So
it
is
very
important
to
to
remember
that.
I
would
like
to
just
ask
a
question.
Maybe
maybe
you
could
confirm
how
many
of
the
current
worthing
councillors
are
financially
supported
in
any
way
through
their
election
expenses
or
whatever
by
the
gmb
and
whether
any
of
the
current
executive?
A
H
Thank
you
and
my
apologies
for
my
lateness
this
evening.
I
just
really
wanted
to
pass
on
my
thanks
to
dr
howe
and
her
team,
because
they
did
absolutely
sterling
work
and
I
absolutely
agree
that
all
our
staff
deserve
a
fair
pay
deal.
H
H
Are
we
expecting
that
this
year,
or
will
it
perhaps
be
next
year,
and
also
at
what
point
do
we
get
to
where
contracting
that
service
out
becomes
actually
more
financially
viable
for
our
residents?
Thank
you.
C
So
I
think
that
the
the
thing
for
us
all
we
can
do
is
work
the
the
situation,
that's
sitting
in
front
of
us,
which
is
to
continue
the
open
dialogue
that
we've
now
got
with
both
unions
in
the
in
the
waste
service.
Having
having
really
stuck
to
the
point,
which
we
still
feel
is
very
important-
that
we
needed
a
joint
negotiating
agreement
in
place
to
be
able
to
reflect
the
views
of
all
of
our
staff
in
that
service.
C
So
I'm
not
going
to
predict
sort
of
what
might
come
of
that
conversation.
Apart
from
the
fact
that
we're
there
very
very
sincerely
in
order
to
work
through
the
issues
that
are
raised
with
our
workforce,
to
make
sure
that
to
make
sure
that
we
are
dealing
with
that,
and
we
are
doing
that
listening
and
that's
that's
the
forum
to
do
it.
C
I
think
your
your
other
point
here
is
that
is
that
the
the
challenge
here
is
always
to
make
sure
we're
listening
to
the
widest
workforce
and
that
we're
making
decisions
that
will
work
for
everybody
that
we're
responsible
for,
and
I
think
that's
one
of
those.
That's
one
of
the
tensions
that
we're
managing
here,
and
certainly
one
of
the
things
going
into
the
negotiation
process,
is
to
be
really
clear
that
we
shouldn't
be
putting
ourselves
in
a
situation
that
we
couldn't.
C
We
couldn't
agree
to
for
the
whole
workforce
and
that
will
continue
to
be
the
principles
on
which
we
do
this
engagement.
So
we're
we're
in
a
conversation,
and
we
will
continue
to
be
in
a
conversation
and
we're
there
constructively
in
order
to
make
this
work.
I
Yeah
just
for
the
benefit
in
case
anybody
is
watching
this
online
chairman,
because
occasionally
three
or
four
people
do
the
your
your
counselor,
so
I
don't
know
her
name
was
on
about.
We
should
have
sort
of
started
walking
to
the
workforce
in
december
and
things
for
the
record.
The
gmb
wouldn't
even
tell
us
why
they
were
on
strike
until
they've
been
on
strike,
for
I
don't
know.
Was
it
two
months
about
six
weeks
into
it
anyway?
They
wouldn't
even
say
why
they
were
on
strike.
I
So
we
were
trying
all
along
the
line
to
find
out
what
was
wrong.
Negotiate
talk,
no,
no!
No!
No!
We're
just
on
strike.
So
I'd
like
to
congratulate
the
officers
on
the
outstanding
work
they
did
in
actually
settle
in
it
and,
unfortunately,
there's
financial
repercussions,
but
it's
something
we
will
have
to
live
with.
A
J
Thank
you
chair.
I
absolutely
want
to
just
say
thank
you
to
the
officers
for
the
for
the
outstanding
work
they've
done
and
holding
the
tide
against
the
financial
irresponsibility
of
the
the
previous
administration
who
who
clearly
were
addicted
to
using
this
town's
credit
card
in
in
multiple
ways,
as
I've
seen,
you
know
coming
into
this
new
labour
administration.
So
I
think
really
that
the
wider
point
to
make
from
this
is
that
this
administration
is
absolutely
committed
to
listening
and
engaging
to
its
valued
workforce.
J
I've
I've
been
so
impressed
with
everyone
here
that
I've
engaged
with
and
the
staff.
I
think
they're
first
class,
and
we
will
listen,
listen,
listen
to
our
valued
staff
members
and
make
sure
that
they
are
paid
what
they
deserve:
a
fair
day's
wage
for
a
fair
day's
work,
and
we
will
balance
that
by
taking
a
financial
approach
that
has
prudence
and
humility
at
its
core,
we
will
manage
this
town's
finances
with
prudence
and
humility.
At
all
time.
We
will
listen,
listen,
listen
and
every
spending
decision
that
we
take.
J
We
will
do
with
openness
with
transparency
with
integrity
at
all
times.
So
I
absolutely
thank
the
officers.
We've
absolutely
got
to
do
everything
we
can
to
turn
back
this,
this
addiction
to
debt
that
the
previous
administration
had,
and
also
this
this
apparent
unwillingness
to
to
listen
and
engage
with
the
workforce.
Thank
you.
Jay.
A
It's
getting
quite
lively,
now,
okay,
I'll
I'll
I'll,
just
finish
off
by
echoing
the
comments
that
have
been
made
and
thanking
the
officers
for
all
their
hard
work
on
this
and
obviously
thanking
the
staff
who
work
for
the
council
for
everything
they've
done
over
the
last
few
years,
and
I'm
glad
that
we've
moved
to
a
point
where
we
are
committing
as
much
as
is
humanly
possible
to
ensuring
that
our
staff
have
a
decent
wage.
With
that
in
mind,
folks,
do
I
have
a
proposal
for
the
recommendations
in
this
report?
A
A
K
Thank
you
chair.
This
report
sets
out
three
areas
where
improvement
to
local
decision
making
and
scrutiny
processes
are
recommended.
Firstly,
following
the
changes
arising
from
the
may
elections,
new
forums
are
proposed
to
allow
each
council
to
take
its
own
decisions
where
they
solely
affect
one
council.
K
It's
important
to
note
that,
as
there
is
now
a
disparity
in
the
sizes
of
the
executives
of
each
council,
that
the
committee
is
invited
to
consider
this
evening,
the
proposals
at
3.12
with
regard
to
attendance
at
joint
meetings,
it's
also
noteworthy
that
additional
meetings
will
need
to
be
serviced
within
existing
resources.
At
this
stage,
with
fewer
joint
strategic
committee
meetings
planned
in
the
trial
period,
providing
some
mitigation
roving
meetings,
if
they
are
proposed,
would
be
funded
by
the
relevant
council.
A
A
Okay
with
that
in
mind,
the
item
is
now
open
to
debate.
Please
indicate
if
you
would
wish
to
speak.
Is
that
counselor
parking?
Have
you
get
your
hand
up
yep.
I
Yeah,
thank
you.
Jen
yeah,
I
mean
we've
got
to
be
pragmatic
about
this,
aren't
we
moving
forward
and
as
it
states
in
a
report.
According
to
the
joint
agreement,
we
have
to
have
four
jscs
a
year,
but
there
should
be
enough
business
joint
business
that
has
to
be
discussed.
I
I
I'm
not
gonna
only
have
three
it's
gonna,
be
you
know,
I'm
not
gonna
pick,
which
executive
member
is
more
important
than
others
they're
all
as
important
as
each
other,
so
it'll
be
the
six,
and
also
we
have
no
desire
to
take
our
show
on
the
road
as
it
were,
going
around
various
places,
because
we
did
that
trying
to
think.
I
I
I
don't
know
if
he's
here
tonight,
a
member
of
the
public
but
anyways
to
say
only
the
same
one
most
of
the
time
turned
up,
so
yes
got
no
desire
to
do
that
and
of
course
I
mean
the
short
retention
is
right
in
the
middle
of
the
patch
anyway,
with
lots
of
easy
access
for
trains,
buses
and
that
people
want
to
come
free
parking
lots
of
free
parking
nearby.
I
So
yes,
so
we
don't
want
to
take
ours
on
the
road,
and
I
was
saying
it
will
be
all
six
of
us,
but
what
worthing
does
is
up
to
the
worthing
leadership
entirely.
A
Thank
you
very
much
councillor
parking.
Would
anybody
else
like
to
contribute
to
this
debate,
I'm
happy
to
say
something
in
a
minute,
but
if
somebody
else
wants
to
say
something
first,
please
do
so.
Okay,
yeah!
I
thank
you
very
much
for
this
report.
I
think
it's
a
real
move
in
a
positive
direction.
I
I
understand
some
of
the
the
the
points
raised
by
councillor
parking
about
this
notion
of
taking
the
show
on
the
road,
but
I
think
that
there's
a
movement
across
progressive
local
authorities
to
try
to
do
much
more
place-based
work.
A
I
think,
for
a
lot
of
people.
The
town
hall
feels
like
quite
an
intimidating
place.
It
doesn't
feel
like
it's
necessarily
open
to
the
public.
It's
no
fault,
it's
just
the
nature
of
the
building,
and
I
think
that
if
the
degree
to
which
it's
a
success
in
terms
of
moving
out
to
a
public
space
and
embedding
yourself
in
the
community,
actually
it's
not
enough
just
to
do
that,
because
actually,
if
you
just
do
that,
you'll
have
the
response
that
you
mentioned.
A
Whereas
you
will
have
the
old
member
of
public
coming,
you
have
to
build
a
real
engagement
strategy
around
that
you
have
to
build
a
common
strategy
around
that
that
lets.
People
in
that
area
know
that
the
council
are
coming
there
and
they
want
to
engage
with
them
and
they
want
to
listen
to
them,
and
I
think,
under
those
circumstances,
if
you
have
the
right
engagement
strategy
and
you
have
the
right
comm
strategy
and
a
commitment
to
listening
to
people-
something
like
this
is
actually
really
important,
because
it's
in
it
it's
not
just
that.
A
It's
symbolic
that
the
council
are
going
out
to
them
to
listen
to
them.
Actually,
people
start
to
respond.
That's
my
experience,
my
profession
over
the
last
kind
of
15
20
years.
So
I
really
welcome
some
of
the
changes
proposed
here
and
I
like
the
idea
that
we're
able
to
either
obviously
can
focus
on
the
things
that
are
most
important
in
aida.
Worthing
can
focus
on
the
things
that
are
most
important
in
worthing
and
I
hope,
and
I
believe
it
will.
It
will
lead
to
a
much
closer
relationship
between
the
council
and
our
residents.
A
So,
thank
you
very
much
to
the
officers
who
put
this
together
with
that
in
mind.
Folks,
do
we
have
a
proposal
for
the
recommendations
in
this
report?
Council
evans.
Thank
you
very
much.
Do
we
have
a
seconder
councillor
done?
Are
all
those
present
in
agreement
great
and
then
the
proposal
is
carried.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
L
Chairman,
thank
you.
The
report
before
cancers
tonight
is
an
opportunity
to
deliver
eight
affordable
housing
units
in
south
street
and
lansing
of
my
colleague,
anthony
probert
with
me
as
well
who's.
A
report
author
has
been
the
project
manager
in
this
project
and
just
to
help
with
any
questions
or
queries.
L
We
identified
that
an
appropriate
number
of
approximately
38
eata
units
was
required
for
eight
or
district,
and
this
proposal
here
brings
forward
eight
units
to
meet
that
need
in
reviewing
the
opportunity
loss
of
parking
was
identified
as
a
very
significant
issue,
taken
into
account
the
wider
context,
the
number
of
parking
spaces
available
in
lansing
the
availability
of
on-street
parking
for
both
short
and
long
term.
It
was
considered
that
the
loss
of
this
parking
spaces
at
this
location
would
not
have
a
significant
impact
on
the
successful
high
street
in
lansing
or
the
the
village's
economy.
L
Having
undertaken
a
review
of
the
feasibility
of
the
site,
we
recognize
it
in
planning
terms,
legal
title
terms,
services
and
utilities,
and
actually
the
risks
of
development
that
it
was
an
appropriate
development
to
bring
forward
to
members
this
evening
and
to
propose
a
development
on
the
site.
The
the
financial
information
and
details
is
set
out
in
section
six.
It
identifies
a
year
and
year
saving
of
approximately
eighteen
thousand
compared
to
bed
and
breakfast
accommodation
and
identifies
a
better
quality
of
accommodation
would
be
provided
for
this
cost.
L
It
identifies
a
positive
cash
flow
over
50
years
and
a
positive
net
present
value
over
50
years.
Therefore,
having
considered
all
these
issues
and
the
financial
benefits,
the
recommendations
are
before
you
at
section
two,
as
always,
we're
very,
very
happy
to
answer
any
questions
or
queries
and
yeah.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
H
It's
kind
of
not
really
a
question,
but
it's
more
that
I'm
really
pleased
to
see
that
this
is
coming
forward.
I
think
it's
about
six
years
ago
now
that
I
dragged
james
appleton
down
there
to
show
him
how
appalling
the
entrance
and
the
exit
to
that
car
park
is
anybody
that
values
their
car
would
certainly
not
be
using
it.
H
I
just
wonder
how
long
has
it
taken
you
to
get
to
this
point,
and
is
that
the
same,
I
guess
with
the
worthing
one
I
presume
they
they're
being
dovetailed
in
together,
so
kind
of
when
did
this
kick
off,
because
I'm
just
conscious
that,
if
we're
looking
for
more
sites
kind
of
how,
if
we
can
tell
our
residents
how
long
from
start
to
finish
these
things
are
taking,
I
think
it's
quite
useful.
L
So
I
I'm
one
confident
why
it's
taken
six
years
for
james
appleton
to
get
from
james
appleton.
To
here.
I
I
think
in
terms
of
vader
homes
in
the
hra
we've
identified
a
series
of
priorities.
The
first
one
was
the
the
issue
around
sheltered
accommodation,
assassin,
laura's
house,
fire
safeties
at
ashcroft.
L
These
meant
that
these
sites,
where
there
was
a
an
existing
threat
on
the
site
or
an
existing
risk
on
the
site,
should
I
say,
rather
than
a
threat
that
these
were
prioritized
so
the
existing
sock
and
opportunities
at
albion
street
101
north
road
lansing,
where
we
delivered
two
units
a
number
of
years
ago.
These
were
seen
as
the
more
easily
identifiable
and
more
achievable
sites.
L
We've
then
moved
on
through
the
hidden
sites
to
move
on
to
a
number
of
garage
sites,
and
this
report
was
was
done
as
a
review
of
sites
and
opportunities
that
are
held
within
the
general
fund
in
2020.
having
anthony
had
joined
the
team
late
last
year.
He
was
given
this
list
of
sites,
and
this
is
the
one
that
was
identified
as
the
the
easiest
one
to
progress
at
this
time.
L
In
terms
of
time
scale
from
initial
feasibility
to
here,
it's
been
approximately
anthony
three
four
months
and
then
to
go
through
the
process
you
approximately
six
months
to
take
into
account
planning
and
tender
and
then
the
site
of
this
scale
you'd
anticipate
about
12
months
on
site.
So
from
you
know,
initial
conception
on
a
piece
of
paper:
let's
have
a
go
of
this
site
to
actual
build
out
getting
keys
into
people's
hands.
All
in
all,
it
takes
three
to
three
and
a
half
years
with
a
fair
wind.
A
A
Okay,
then,
the
proposal
is
carried
in
accordance
with
the
joint
committee
agreement.
Members
of
the
ada
executive
are
now
free
to
leave
the
meeting,
but
at
least
one
aider
executive
member
must
remain
for
the
committee
to
be
quarat.
So
if
you
want
to
leave,
please
do
so
now.
A
L
Thank
you
again,
chairman,
yes,
very
pleased
to
be
before
us
on
talking
about
this
site.
This
was
identified
as
an
opportunity
at
the
end
of
last
year.
Speaking
to
the
existing
tenants,
they
identified
that
the
buildings
were
falling
into
disrepair,
that,
as
existing
membership
was
falling,
they
felt
it
was
no
longer
a
feasible
site
for
them.
L
However,
taking
into
account
the
financial
benefits
that
we
knew
was
available
from
eata
and
also
the
very
existing
very
strong
existing
demand
in
the
town,
we
identified
that
undertaking
a
feasibility
study
to
deliver
ea
ta
on
the
site
was
a
preferred
option.
L
As
I
headlined
section
four,
it
lends
a
series
of
options
for
the
site,
given
the
financial
benefits
and
the
feasibility
of
the
site
to
actually
be
delivered
for
eanta.
The
recommendation
is
that
we
do
take
the
pro
the
the
feasibility
beyond
stage
one
through
to
planning
reba
stage.
Three
again
considering
the
site,
we
felt
it
was
buildable
that
the
legal
title
was
decent,
the
service
and
utilities
were
available
and
actually
that
the
impacts
on
surrounding
neighborhoods,
because
this
is
a
family
residential
area
that
the
appropriate
use
of
eata
was
suitable
on
this
site.
L
So
the
recommendations
again
are
before
you
suspend
approximately
three
three
and
a
half
million
pounds,
3.4
million
pounds
to
deliver
the
site
initially
through
the
feasibility
following
a
tender
exercise.
We'd
return
to
council
return
to
jsc
to
get
approval
for
the
final
stage
of
the
project
as
ever
very
happy
to
answer
any
questions
or
queries.
A
E
Thank
you
chair.
Thank
you,
mr
cronin,
for
your
report
and
it's
really
pleasing
to
see
the
continued
work
on
delivering
the
pathways
to
affordable
housing
continuing
and
we,
I
think
we
all
recognize
the
need
for
emergency
and
temporary
accommodation
within
the
town
and
long
may.
We
continue
to
strive
to
do
this,
but
I
suppose
my
question
comes
back
to
the
questions.
I
was
asking
right
earlier
on
at
this
beginning
of
this
meeting
around
the
financial
risks.
E
Clearly
this
report
was
written
five
six
weeks
ago
and
the
figures
that
were
put
in
it
were
at
least
five
or
six
weeks
old
and
in
the
work
that
ec
have
done
with
that.
Now
I
see
that
there's
optimum
bias
in
there
25,
but
if
we
just
assume
cpi
9
inflation
at
the
moment,
that's
circa
250
000
coming
out
40
of
the
optimum
bias
coming
out,
but
we
know
that
building
costs
are
not
operating
at
nine
percent.
Building
costs
are
20,
40
inflation
rates
and
building
materials
are
very
high.
E
We
know
that
from
the
site
behind
who
are
desperate
to
buy
materials
down
and
store
them.
So
my
question
is:
have
these
figures
taken
into
account
the
current
construction
costs
market
prices
now
and
is
that
optimum
bias
going
to
be
sufficient,
given
the
level
that
prices
are
still
continuing
to
go
inflation
and
material
costs
and
recognizing
the
fuel
costs?
E
And
I
suppose
the
second
question,
if
I
may,
that
comes
out
of
this
clearly
you're
looking
for
the
environment,
which
personally
I
would
support
but
you're,
asking
to
take
this
to
reba
level
two
next,
how
much
is
that
cost
going
to
be
to
get
to
riba
level?
Two
before
we
potentially
find
out
that
the
inflationary
costs
will
negate
this
work
and
therefore
how
much
will
we
spend.
L
So
this
may
be
one
where
I
want
to
draw
my
colleague
anthony
probert
on
us.
I
suppose
there's
two
things.
One
is
the
project
management
approach,
which
is
how
we
deal
with
the
risk
and
then
the
second
one
is
is
answer
to
detailed
questions
about
inflation
in
terms
of
project
management
approach.
We
always
try
and
not
fall
foul
of
this
issue
by
taking
a
staged
approach.
Essentially,
we
always
try
and
take
a
report
at
very
early
stage.
L
We
then
go
through
planning
out
to
tender
and
only
at
a
stage
when
we
have
got
planning
and
at
a
fixed
ender
price.
Do
we
return
to
jsc
and
get
confirmation
of
what
the
final
budget
is?
I'm
always
really
careful
in
using
the
terms,
costs
or
cost
estimate
or
financial
envelope.
It's
only
at
the
stage
that
we've
actually
have
a
fixed
price
and
know
that
we
can
deliver.
It
doesn't
become
a
budget
for
the
project.
The
term
budget
can
be
pulled
and
stretched
in
terms
of
dealing
with
the
site.
L
In
general,
we
had
a
cost
report
done
and
we've
added
an
inflationary
price
on
to
that
already,
and
then
we've
added
an
optimism
bias
on
top
of
that.
So
there's
an
already
an
inflation
estimate
put
in
then
25
put
on
top
of
that.
The
the
construction
market
is
very
volatile
at
the
moment.
It's
very
very
difficult
to
pin
something
down.
L
We
had
a
steel
price
recently
and
it
held
for
three
hours
so
unless
you're
putting
the
price
and
actually
going
down
there
with
your
trailer
and
picking
up
the
steel,
it's
very
hard
to
achieve
that
price.
L
It
is
this
risk
management
approach,
that's
built
into
the
project
management
approach,
plus
that
really
the
optimism
bias
and
combined
with
the
inflation
bias
are
the
inflation
assumptions
that
give
us
confidence
that
we
will
be
able
to
bring
this
within
budget
again,
we'll
always
check
in
and
before
going
ahead
and
having
a
project
on
site.
C
Yeah,
just
just
just
a
couple
of
things,
so
so
one
is
actually.
This
will
come
back
to
the
worthing
subcommittee,
so
just
we're
all
getting
used
to
it,
but
yeah
that
this
will
be
one
that
will
come
back
to
the
worthing
subcommittee
and
I
think
the
the
sort
of
the
other
two
points
to
make
is
that
clearly,
this
was
born
from
the
previous
administration
strategy
that
the
fact,
the
fact
is
that
the
underlying
need
on
housing
continues
to
be
there,
and
I
know
that
the
portfolio
holder
has
had
this
discussion
with
the
team.
C
A
E
I
will,
and
it's
just
really
to
pick
up
on
the
recommendations
at
2.4
and
2.5,
and
it
comes
back
to
I
think.
The
public
question
you
heard
earlier
on.
There
seems
to
be
contradictory
statements
in
there
in
that
it
says
at
2.4
to
come
back
in
consultation
with
the
executive
members
and
at
2.5
to
resort
to
presented
to
an
executive
member.
Are
you
able
to
clarify
who
actually,
those
reports
will
go
back
to
because
the
standing
orders
require
them
to
be
identified?
C
Yeah,
so
so
so
that
this
one,
this
is
why
we
are
still
working
through
the
scheme
of
delegation
around
the
different
portfolios,
and
so
at
the
moment
that
that
approach
that
will
be
done
in
consultation
with
which
actually
cuts
across
a
couple
of
different
portfolio
briefs,
but
the
actual
decision
will
continue
to
rest
with
the
administration.
So
so,
if
it
isn't
reconciled
in
the
detailed
work
we're
doing
around
the
portfolio
mapping,
it
will
be
a
decision
that
comes
to
the
leader
or
deputy
leader.
C
A
A
M
Sorry,
just
looking
at
the
sustainability
clause
element
of
the
report
was
there:
no
is
there
no
facility
for
solar
panels
or
solar
thermal
or
any
other
sort
of
further
sustainability
and
elements
in
the
build.
L
I
think
the
first
one
to
say
is
we're
at
a
very
early
stage
in
the
design,
so
we're
looking
at
it
very
early.
Is
this
feasible?
What
can
we
get
on
it?
You
know
terms
of
blocks
and
scale.
So
can
we
get
six
units
or
ten
units?
I
think
in
terms
of
the
actual
detail
and
sustainability?
My
colleague,
mr
robert
is
has
the
grip
on
that
and
the
detail
on.
It's
probably
one
of
the
more
specialist
developers
out
there
on
it
so
anthony.
N
Absolutely
like,
like
mr
cronin
said
it's
an
early
stage,
we
are
committed
to
being
excuse
me,
gas,
free
on
this
on
this
site,
so
fully
electric
scheme
and
what
we've
designed
in
is
air
source
heat
pumps,
as
well
contained
within
within
a
section
towards
the
the
rear
of
the
site
fabric.
First
principles
will
be
adopted,
we're
looking
at
perhaps
if
we're
able
to
afford
mvhr
as
well
as
best
practice.
O
Thank
you,
chair
yeah,
thank
you.
I
I
did
actually
have
some
questions
on
this
report,
but
they
have
been
really
helpfully
and
ably
answered
by
dr
howe
and
and
by
mr
cronin
and
and
mr
provost.
So
thank
you
also
spent
time
with
akin
to
speak
about
this.
Just
really
are
happy
to
hear
the
urgency
that's
being
placed
under
the
need
for
emergency
and
temporary
accommodation.
O
There
is
no
way,
I'm
sure
that
any
of
us
want
to
sit
here
and
create
any
blockage
to
this
going
ahead,
and
it
heartens
me
that
we
do
all
seem
to
be
on
the
same
page
now.
I
accept
the
absolute
urgency
to
be
constantly
mindful
of
numbers.
The
cost
pressures
that
we're
under,
but
what
I
feel
is
slightly
insensitive
when
we're
talking
about
the
cost
of
materials.
Is
that
we're
forgetting
about
sometimes
the
cost
to
people's
mental
and
physical
well-being
when
they're
caught
in
a
trap
of
unsuitable
or
insufficient
housing?
O
So
I
really
just
urge
us
to
consider.
Yes,
thank
you.
That's
how
for
raising
that?
Yes,
construction
costs
are
going
up,
but
so
are
our
costs
for
funding
emergency
and
temporary,
especially
when
it's
not
accommodation
within
our
own
control,
but
also
that
we
just
acknowledge
the
real
lived
experience
of
the
people
that
are
caught
in
this
trap
and
just
the
way
those
numbers
keep
rising
and
rising,
and
I
did
ask
questions
as
well
about
the
development.
O
Could
we
potentially
try
and
get
more
units
there,
just
because
I'm
aware
of
the
particular
need
for
single
person
accommodation,
but
I
was
really
assured
by
the
level
of
thought-
that's
gone
into
this
proposal.
11
units
is
right
for
the
size
of
the
site.
We
need
to
balance
keeping
the
local
residents
happy
we're
going
to
need
them
on
side.
For
this.
We
also
need
to
understand
that
often
individuals
that
are
needing
this
kind
of
accommodation
might
have
quite
complex
needs
and
to
overcrowd
them
could
be
really
detrimental
to
their
health.
O
So
it
just
really
really
was
reassuring
to
hear
this.
Thank
you
for
the
comments
on
the
air
source
heat
pumps,
great
that
we're
committed
to
all
electric.
Thank
you,
mr
cronin,
that
we've
committed
to
the
latest
iterations
of
par-el
epc,
wise,
I'm
sure
you'll,
hear
more
from
councillor
silman
about
our
aspirations
for
shooting
high
on
that
across
all
council
properties,
but
really
just
want
to
thank
you
for
the
report
and
and
say
more
of
this.
Please
more
of
this.
A
A
Okay
in
that
case
can
ask
if
we
have
a
proposal
for
the
recommendation.
Counselor
wallow.
Can
I
ask
if
we
have
a
seconder
councillor?
Wells
are
all
those
present
in
agreement?
A
Okay,
great
in
that
case,
this
proposal
is
carried.
That
is
the
final
item
on
this
agenda.
Just
before
I
close
the
meeting,
I
just
want
to
say
this
is
obviously
the
first
meeting
I've
chaired.
A
It
is
reassuring,
certainly
for
me,
for
our
first
joint
strategic
committee
that
we're
talking
about
building
emergency
and
temporary
accommodation
that
we're
talking
about
paying
our
workers
a
wage
that
allows
them
to
feed
their
families
and
also
that
that
focuses
our
activity
on
the
council
to
get
out
there
in
the
communities
and
listen
to
people.
So
it's
a
really
heartening
experience.
I
declare
this
meeting
closed
at
7,
34.