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From YouTube: May 12, 2021 Caucus- Work Session
Description
Presentation by School District for proposed budget.
Discussion of May 17, 2021 Agenda
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Okay,
all
school
officials
welcome
to
the
wednesday
may
12th
caucus
of
the
albany
common
council,
our
caucus
and
work
session.
I
will
for
the
record,
just
go
through
council
members.
President
president
are
hoey
fahey.
I
go
love
o'brien,
doshay,
farrell,.
B
Flynn,
frederick
and
conti
also
have
council
president
ellis
with
us,
along
with
our
staff
clerk
danielle
gillespie,
our
research
council,
general,
rafael,
pachardo
and
corp
council
brett
williams.
I'd
like
to
again
welcome
this:
the
school
district
school
board,
folks,
the
superintendent
miss
adams,
along
with
the
school
board.
What
we
will
do
is
we'll
just
open
up
and
and
allow
you
to
make
your
presentation
and
take
questions
from
us
first
and
then
move
on
to
our
regular
agenda.
After
that.
E
That
sounds
great
kelly.
Thank
you
very
much.
We
always
appreciate
your
guy.
You
guys
making
time
for
us
to
come
and
meet
with
you
and
caucus
and
present
the
budget,
to
you
I'll
just
say
a
couple
words
of
introduction
and
then
turn
it
over
to
the
superintendent
who
will
introduce
her
staff
that
she
has
with
us
and
give
you
a
brief
presentation
on
the
budget.
E
I
want
to
just
highlight
a
couple
of
things.
My
colleagues
on
the
board-
and
I
are
super
happy
that
we
can
announce
that
new
york
state
has
started
a
good
road
toward
fully
funding
foundation
aid.
That's
really
important,
it's
the
largest
category
of
state
aid,
and
it
makes
a
really
big
difference
in
our
fiscal
outlook,
and
that
has
a
particular
benefit
to
those
of
us
in
heinen's
districts
like
in
albany.
E
We
thank
every
day,
assemblymember
fahey
and
assemblymember
mcdonald
and
state
senator
breslin
for
their
work,
as
well
as
to
the
many
advocates
who
fought
hard
for
that
increase
in
foundation
aid
which
affects
both
this
year
and
the
next
two
years.
I
do
want
to
draw
to
your
attention
that
this
year's
increase,
which
is
12,
which
is
a
lot,
has
to
really
cover
our
cost
increases
for
two
years,
because
foundation
aid
was
essentially
flat
last
year,
but
our
cost
continued
to
go
up.
E
So
it
is
a
substantial
increase,
even
if
you
look
at
it
over
two
years,
but
it's
not
quite
as
overwhelmingly
beneficial,
as
it
first
sounds
like
also.
We
do
know
that
we
have
allocated
the
next
two
years,
the,
but
then
your
state
budget
has
committed
to
fully
fund
foundation
aid,
and
if
that
happens,
it
would
be
a
significant
increase
for
each
of
those
next
two
years.
So
our
fingers
are
absolutely
crossed
that
that's
going
to
happen.
E
We
have
other
good
news,
which
I
know
is
similar
to
what
you're
facing
in
the
city.
With
these
access
to
substantial
one-time,
federal
covered
relief
funds,
we
will
be
using
those
to
do
some
one-time
work
like
facilities
and
technology
purchases,
and
we
will
also
be
using
them
to
provide
staffing
for
our
students
during
the
next
few
years,
as
we
are
recovering
from
the
covered
closure.
E
As
probably,
you
know-
and
I
imagine
you're
following
a
similar
process-
the
arp
spending-
we
will
have
to
make
those
decisions
once
the
guidelines
are
finally
out
in
coordination
with
our
community
for
additional
input.
But
regardless
of
what
we
finalize
in
terms
of
how
we're
going
to
spend
the
arp
money,
it
is
one-time
money.
So
any
staffing
that
we
would
want
to
maintain,
after
those
monies
are
no
longer
available,
would
have
to
be
absorbed
into
the
general
fund
budget.
So
that's
something
we're
thinking
really
hard
about.
E
I
want
to
draw
your
attention
to
also
to
the
history
here
that
the
district
has
really
been
working
very
hard
to
hold
the
line
on
property
taxes.
If
adopted,
this
budget
would
be
the
eighth
in
a
row
at
less
than
two
percent,
several
of
which
were
zeros
and
several
of
which
will
be.
This,
I
think,
will
be
the
third
under
one
percent.
E
E
When
I
first
started
keeping
track,
and
when
I
talked
to
assemblywoman
fahey,
she
tells
me
that
it
was
even
more
back
when
she
was
on
the
board,
maybe
as
much
as
60
or
65,
so
we're
doing
what
we
can
to
to
increase
state
aid
as
a
percentage
of
our
budget,
reducing
our
reliance
on
property
taxes,
and
that's
that's
really
important
for
us
to
think
about,
because
over
the
long
time,
as
our
as
our
costs
continue
to
increase
every
single
year.
E
If
we
continue
to
hold
the
line
on
property
taxes
as
we
want
to,
because
we
know
how
important
it
is
to
our
residents,
it
does
mean
we
have
to
find
those
resources
from
somewhere,
because
we
do
need
to
be
able
to
to
cover
our
contractual
and
other
increases.
So
our
fingers
are
absolutely
crossed
that
we
will
have
those
substantial
foundation.
Aid
increases
the
next
two
years
because
we're
happy
to
see
essentially
a
20
increase
in
graduation
rate
over
the
last
six
years
right,
we're
at
like
73.
It
was
54
just
six
years
ago.
E
So
it's
a
substantial
substantial
increase
and
what
makes
me
even
happier
is
that
that
increase
is
coming
with
a
decrease
in
the
gap
between
the
black
graduation
rate
and
the
white
graduation
rate,
which
is
now
close
to
only
about
nine
percent
at
the
four-year
rate,
four-year
term
and
eight
percent
at
six.
So
we're
really
closing
that
gap
and
I
think
that's
really
important
and
I'm
really
proud
of
that
work.
So
with
that
introduction
and
kickoff,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
the
superintendent.
F
Thank
you
so
very
much,
president
savage
and
tonight
with
us.
We
have
deputy
superintendent
kimberly
roaring.
We
have
assistant
superintendent
for
elementary
education,
cecily
wilson,
turner
assistant
superintendent,
for
secondary
education,
lori
mckenna.
We
have
karen
bechdel
our
director
of
curriculum
professional
development
and
instruction
well
curriculum
instruction
and
professional
development,
and
also
ron
lesko,
our
director
of
communications
and
operations,
and
I
believe
mr
lesko,
are
you
driving
the
slides
this
evening.
F
G
F
We
always
start
with
our
vision,
mission
and
goals,
and
we
know
that
this
is
what
we
do
in
terms
of
keeping
our
focus
with
looking
at
equitable
opportunities
for
all
of
our
students,
so
that
they
can
reach
their
potential.
We
look
at
serving
our
diverse
community
and
engaging
our
students
in
robust
educational
programs.
We
have
seen
challenges
over
coven
19.
F
However,
we
are
still
making
sure
that
we
are
putting
in
the
necessary
stop
gaps
if
you
will
so
that
we
can
continue
to
increase
student
achievement,
enhance
the
delivery
of
quality
instruction,
build
our
leadership
capacity
and
increase
accountability,
as
well
as
empowering
our
families
to
support
the
success
of
children
and
partner
with
our
diverse
community
tonight
we're
going
to
go
over
our
discussion
topics.
We
will
talk
about
the
budget
proposal.
F
We
are
looking
at
rebuilding
and
accelerating
the
learning
of
our
instructional
program
through
the
investment
of
our
state
and
federal
funds.
We're
also
looking
at
using
our
data
to
identify
learning
gaps.
We
know
that
our
assessments
have
not
been
the
same
this
year,
but
we
do
have
data
that
shows
us
where
our
students
are
performing
and
what
we
need
to
do
to
con
to
close
those
academic
gaps
and
take
our
students
from
where
they
are
with,
where
they
need
to
be
we're.
F
Looking
at
our
intervention
strategies,
you're
going
to
hear
a
lot
about
social
and
emotional
well-being
of
our
students,
because
we
know
that
that's
been
something
that
has
really
really
plagued
our
students
in
terms
of
adjusting
to
covet
the
disconnectedness
that
many
of
our
students
have
felt
and
also
what
is
that
connectedness
that
we
need
to
create
and
rebuild
as
we
move
forward
with
our
wraparound
services.
F
So
what
does
the
proposed
budget
support,
and
so
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
able
to
emphasize
that
the
current
staffing
and
programming
things
that
we
have
in
place
right
now
we're
looking
at
maintaining
that
we're.
Also
looking
at
the
restoration
of
the
albany
international
center,
the
restoration
of
the
tony
clement
center
for
education,
we're
looking
at
moving
our
sixth
grade
students
to
middle
school,
which
is
something
that
we
have
been
looking
at
doing
for
several
years
now.
F
We
have
looked
at
an
increased
number
of
behavioral
specialists
and
social
workers,
in
addition
to,
as
we
look
at
that
achievement
gap
looking
at
the
instructional
intervention
positions
in
reading,
math
and
ela,
so
that
we
can
support
the
learning
and
accelerate
the
learning
of
our
students,
and
I
want
to
take
a
moment
that
when
we
talk
about
accelerated
learning,
we're
not
talking
about
drill
skill
and
the
test,
prep
types
of
activities,
the
things
that
we
are
talking
about
are
we're.
Looking
at
strategies
to.
F
Other
pieces
that
we
are
looking
at
maintaining
would
be
the
full
day,
pre-k
kinder,
full
day,
pre-k
in
11
of
our
elementary
schools
relocating
the
dual
language
program,
our
community
schools.
We
still
have
our
community
schools
and
those
initiatives
at
seven
of
our
schools,
our
band
chorus
and
orchestra,
starting
in
elementary
school,
our
albany,
marching
band
and
color
guard.
This
includes
winterguard
and
indoor
percussion
ensemble,
which
are
two
features
of
that
particular
program
that
we
look
at
maintaining.
F
Also,
we
look
at
the
ap
ib
and
university
in
the
high
school
programs
and
these
programs.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
open
up
those
pathways
so
that
more
of
our
students
are
prepared
to
be
in
those
classes,
along
with
our
cte
pathway,
avid
college
and
career
readiness
programs
at
albany
high
school.
Our
theater
ensemble
is
an
outstanding
program
and
we
are
looking
at
maintaining
that
program
at
the
core
of
it.
We
have
done
quite
a
bit
of
work
with
culturally
relevant
teaching
and
learning
practices
and
our
restorative
practices.
F
When
we
look
at
our
staffing
ratios,
one
of
the
things
that
I'd
like
to
emphasize
is,
if
you
look
at
the
line
that
has
the
k-12
enrollment,
our
enrollment
is
projected
to
be
at
roughly
8
300
students.
That
is
a
little
bit
less
than
where
we
started
the
year
with
8400
students.
But
if
you
look
at
our
staffing,
especially
in
our
support
staff
and
teacher
area,
you
can
see
that
that
is
where
our
numbers
have
increased
in
staffing,
but
also
that
is
to
keep
that
student
teacher
student
support
staff
ratio,
low.
F
So,
with
regard
to
the
21
22
instructional
planning,
we
look
to
have
a
full
in-person
model.
Five
days
a
week.
We
also
look
at
in-person
and
hybrid
models
and
we
are
looking
and
we
are
still
planning
on
a
virtual
option,
pending
the
state
education
department,
guidance
for
with
regard
to
the
21
22
school
year.
F
When
we
look
at
that,
we
can
reduce
to
six
feet
social
distancing,
but
one
of
the
things
that
complicates
it
is
the
fact
that
in
our
common
areas,
we
still
have
to
maintain
six
feet:
social
distancing,
and
so
that
is
when
students
are
eating
when
they're
drinking
or
when
they're
out
in
our
common
areas.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
we
are
still
maintaining
six
feet
social
distancing.
F
F
If
it
exceeds
the
75
building
capacity,
then
we
would
be
looking
at
a
hybrid
model
for
grades,
7,
8
and
grades
9
12.,
our
self-contained
special
education
students
would
remain
full
in
person.
K-12
and
again,
we
are
still
looking
at
a
virtual
option.
We
are
planning
for
that.
We
we
are.
We
are
not
certain
if
the
state
department
will
have
guidance
with
regard
to
that,
but
at
this
time
that
option
is
still
a
valid
option,
and
so
we
will
be
waiting
for
guidance
from
the
state
department
of
education
at
this
time.
H
H
H
H
Looking
at
the
revenue
over
three
years
in
the
right
hand,
column
you'll
see
the
changes
from
fiscal
21
to
fiscal
22..
This
year
we
have
recognized
a
significant
decrease
in
our
medicaid
reimbursement
for
federal
aid,
and
we
are
anticipating
that
will
continue.
Next
year.
We
are
planning
to
increase
our
appropriate
fund
balance
modestly
by
183
000.
H
We
have
a
combined
state
aid
increase
of
approximately
9.5
million
dollars,
as
presidents
have
shared
that's
over
a
two-year
period,
since
we
were
flat
in
2021
and
then
we
have
a
proposed
property
tax
levy
increase
of
0.95
percent,
which
is
equal
to
1.14
million.
That
brings
our
year-over-year
increase
to
just
under
8.7
million
dollars.
H
H
6.4
million
of
that
is
associated
with
our
instructional
program
and
wrap-around
support
services
for
our
students,
just
under
1.7,
is
attributable
to
charter
school
payments
for
next
year.
That
includes
an
increase
in
tuition,
as
well
as
an
increase
in
enrollment.
The
second
area
looks
at
our
operations,
maintenance
and
capital
budget,
which
has
an
increase
of
1.56
million.
H
H
H
Million
we
started
the
2021
year
with
an
adopted
budget
of
261.56
million.
In
the
fall
we
made
reductions,
including
reductions
in
force
for
savings
of
14.7
million
this
spring
and
quarter
three
and
quarter
four.
We
have
been
able
to
restore
180
of
those
ftes
we
intend
and
to
maintain
those
ftes
throughout
the
21
22
year.
That
represents
a
12.7
million
dollar
increase.
H
H
H
H
H
We
do
have
one-time
federal,
covet
19
funds
available
to
the
district
in
december
of
2020,
the
sarissa
funds
were
approved,
based
on
the
adopted
state
budget
state
aid
run
in
early
april.
We
anticipate
an
allocation
of
13.5
million
dollars.
Those
funds
are
available
to
the
district
to
use
through
september
of
2023.
H
H
H
Over
the
last
several
weeks,
we've
had
the
opportunity
to
convene
three
virtual
community
budget
presentations
as
a
district
and
also
participate
with
several
community
organizations,
including
the
pine
hills,
neighborhood
association,
cana,
the
naacp
and
with
you,
the
common
council
this
evening.
May
18th
is
our
budget
vote
and
it
will
be
a
return
to
in-person.
H
H
H
We
are
returning
to
in-person
voting
at
15
locations.
City-Wide
polls
are
open
from
7am
to
9pm,
mass
and
social
distancing
are
required
and
we
do
want
to
highlight
that
there
is
one
new
voting
location
this
year.
We
are
unable
to
utilize
the
terrain
house,
so
they
will
be
voting
at
the
italian
american
community
center
pavilion
at
257,
washington,
ave
extension
and
that's
for
ward
12
districts,
one
through
three.
H
What
happens
if
the
budget
is
not
approved?
If
a
majority
of
voters
do
not
approve
the
budget
on
may
18th
by
state
law,
the
board
of
education
has
three
options:
they
can
put
up
the
same
proposal
for
another
vote,
present
a
revised
budget
for
voter
consideration
or
adopt
a
contingency
budget
by
state
law.
If
a
second
vote
fails,
the
district
would
be
required
to
adopt
a
contingency
budget,
which
may
mean
reductions
in
staffing
and
programs,
would
prohibit
spending
on
student
supplies
and
would
require
community
groups
to
pay
for
the
use
of
our
school
buildings.
F
So
this
concludes
our
presentation
and
we
do
have
our
instructional
team
present
as
well
as
ms
roaring,
and
I
am
also
available
to
answer
questions
and
then
president
savage,
if
there's
anything
that
you
would
like
to
add.
As
we
answer
questions
then
absolutely
you're
more
than
welcome
to
pitch
in
so
at
this
time
we
open
the
floor
for.
J
Yes,
thank
you
and
great
presentation.
I
do
have
a
question
regarding
the
move
from
of
the
8th
grade
students
from
edmond
j
o'neill
to
north
albany.
What
was
the
reason
for
the
move
and
how
will
the?
How
will
the
impact
transportation
for
students
that
live
near
the
school.
F
So
I'll
go
ahead
and
start,
and
I
believe
miss
mckenna
is
on
the
line
and
she
can
address
some
more
details
with
regard
to
the
eighth
graders
at
o'neill.
F
So
sorry,
so
looking
at
the
point
of
moving
our
eighth
graders
to
north
albany,
we
do
know
that
we
can
facilitate
that
movement
as
well
as
offer
a
full
middle
school
program
at
north
albany,
and
we
know
that
there's
renovation,
that's
going
on
there.
We
are
adding
classrooms
there.
We
are
also
we
have
purchased
the
other
section,
which
was
the
y
portion,
and
so
now
we
have
an
additional
portion
to
that
facility
that
we're
able
to
use,
and
so
it
lends
itself
to
a
more
comprehensive
middle
school.
E
So
I'll
just
add
that
that
that
school
had
been
rolling
out
there
were
only
eighth
grader.
There
would
only
be
a
small
number
of
eighth
graders
there
next
year,
if
we
did
not
move
them,
which
does
not
lend
itself
to
either
a
fiscally
responsible
or
pedagogically
responsible
middle
school
environment.
So
it's
really
in
the
best
interest
of
the
students
to
be
part
of
a
larger
middle
school
and
it
was
easily
able
for
us
to
provide
that
capacity
for
them.
You
also
ask
for
transportation
and
transportation
for
all.
E
F
And
I
didn't
know
if
there
was
anything
else
that
we
needed
to
add
or
if
there
was
more
instructional
programming
that
you
had
additional
questions
about.
F
I
C
Thank
you.
It
was
a
great
presentation
I
enjoyed
it.
It
makes
things
a
little
bit
more
understandable.
C
I
got
a
few
things
I
just
wanted
to
bring
up
was
one
of
the
things
you
just
said
now
the
spurt
of
question
I
work
at
the
university
and
we
are
seeing
a
serious
student
drop
off
in
the
2025
year
and
that's
the
result
of
the
great
recession
of
2008
where
people
didn't
have
children
anymore.
Have
we
looked
at
when
I
say
we,
the
school
district,
looked
at
the
demographics
of
the
number
of
students.
C
You
know
coming
up
through
the
years
that
would
warrant
adding
a
third
or
fourth
large
middle
school.
E
Superintendent
adams,
if
it's
okay,
I'll
just
take
this,
we
have
a
new
demographic
report
that
we
have
that
we
are
just
fine-tuning
with
our
demographer
and
you
expect
to
be
releasing
in
june.
You
are
absolutely
correct.
It
is
a
significant
problem.
We
start
looking
at
that
at
kindergarten
right.
So
what
our
our
most
are.
The
interest
for
us
is
five
years
or
before
a
kindergarten
year.
E
Then
suddenly,
the
2018
number
is
quite
a
bit
lower
and
I
am
watching,
like
I'm,
checking
the
department
of
health
website
like
a
weekly,
because
I
want
to
know
what
that
2019
number
is,
because
is
that
is
that
2018
number,
just
like
a
very
out
out?
Oh,
you
know
an
unusual
situation
and
we're
going
to
pop
back
up,
or
was
that
is
that
going
to
be
our
new
normal,
so
we
almost
certainly
need
three
solid
middle
schools.
The
idea
that
we
would
have
a
few
enough
students
to
have
two
middle
schools
is
extremely
unlikely.
E
When
we
looked
at
this
a
few
years
ago,
when
we
decided
to
do
north
albany,
the
question
was:
would
we
have
three
middle
schools,
or
would
we
have
three
middle
schools
plus
a
fourth
one?
I
think
it's
pretty
clear
at
this
point,
barring
some
radical
change,
which
would
most
likely
come
from
either
charter
school
closure
or
from
major
increases
to
refugees.
Those
are
the
two
things
that
happen
in
albany
that
are
very
hard
to
predict
for
demographers.
E
If
either
of
those
two
things
happen,
we
could
we
might
have
to
reevaluate
again.
This
is
life
trying
to
plan
in
the
city
school
district
of
albany,
but
assuming
that
those
two
things
stay
stable
or
grow,
incrementally
that
I
can't
imagine
we
would
not
need
three
solid
middle
schools,
so
we
will
need
three.
The
question
is
whether
before-
and
that
seems
unlikely.
C
Yeah,
we
might
have
to
be
a
little
bit
flexible
on
it.
The
other
thing
is
with
kovish.
The
population
is
going
to
drop
tremendously.
I've
seen
the
numbers
and
people
because
of
this
crisis.
They
are
not
having
children
and
it's.
You
know.
This
is
not
just
the
united
states.
It's
around
the
world
people
even
china's
having
a
problem
with
having
people
to
have
children,
because
it's
becoming
more
and
more
difficult
and
expensive
and
hard.
So,
but
thank
you,
you
you.
It
sounds
like
you're
you're
you're.
C
On
top
of
that,
I
appreciate
it.
I'm
really
happy.
I
have
a
13
year
old,
he's
going
to
be
graduating
from
hackett
this
year
going
into
high
school
and
I'm
happy
to
see
the
modified
sports.
Coming
back,
I
mean
it's,
it's
like
a
lost
year
and
for
me
or
for
older
people
it
doesn't
matter,
but
for
kids
having
that
opportunity
to
compete
against
their
peers
in
the
different
school
districts
in
our
area.
I
think
that
was
it
was
sad
and
you
know
I
understand
it.
C
I
wish
it
didn't
happen,
but
but
I'm
glad
that
you
did
it
and
finally,
my
last
point
and
it's
more
of
a
and
you
just
touched
on
it
about
the
charter
schools-
they
didn't
have
to
take
a
cut
from
what
I've
heard
and
you
might
tell
me
I'm
wrong
and
I'd
be
glad
to
be
wrong
on
this
one.
C
But
you
know
we
had
to
cut
back
all
our
stuff
for
the
public
school
and
the
charter
school,
which
is
you
know,
we
have
no
say
in
how
it's
we're
taxed
and
we
have
no
representation
on
that.
It's
using
public
money
that
the
taxpayers
have
no
voice
in
how
this
charter
school
is
running.
It's
something
you
know
I
mean
there
might
be
a
need
for
it,
but
we
got
to
come
up
with
a
better
funding
method.
C
And
I
guess
my
question
is:
what
can
we
do
as
a
council
or
as
a
taxpayer
in
the
city
of
albany,
to
try
to
get
the
word
out
that
we
need
to
come
up
with
a
better
way
to
fund
the
charter
school,
because
it's
not
fair,
taking
away
from
our
public
school
system
and
and
what
you
just
said
now,
if
a
charter
school
closes,
we
have
to
by
law,
absorb
these
students,
and
it's
just.
It's
puts
an
unnecessary
burden
on
our
school
system.
C
So
is
there
anything
that
you
can
suggest
that
we
can
do
either
as
a
council
or
as
a
taxpayers
in
the
city.
F
C
F
The
things
that
I'll
I'll
start
and
then
I'll.
F
Ravage
one
of
the
things
that
you
saw
in
the
slides
already
is
that
there
was
an
increase
in
our
charter
school
tuition
and
as
superintendents,
and
I
can
speak
for
the
superintendents
in
the
capital
region,
the
boces
capital
region.
One
of
the
things
that
we
have
been
advocating
for
is
those
districts
that
are
overly
saturated
with
charter
schools,
that
there
be
a
limit
of
charter
schools
within
those
areas.
The
other
piece
that
I'll
expand
that
advocacy
to
is.
F
We
are
members
of
the
big
five
conference
with
some
of
our
larger
school
districts,
rochester,
syracuse,
yonkers,
new
york
city,
that's
also
part
of
the
advocacy
as
well
is
the
oversaturation
of
our
charter
schools.
So
the
advocacy
along
those
lines
is
extremely
important
because
again
you
saw
in
the
slides.
We
have
to
make
adjustments
for
that
increase
in
that
charter
school
tuition.
President
savage.
E
I
was
just
gonna,
I
say
many
of
the
things
you
did,
which
I
will
not
repeat
but
to
thank
you
tom,
for
specifically
the
way
you
phrased
that,
because,
like
everyone
on
the
council,
I
know
everybody
in
the
leadership
in
the
district
has
tremendous
respect
for
every
family,
making
the
choice
that
they
think
is
in
the
best
interest
of
their
child,
and
we
will
never
second
guess,
a
parent,
whether
they
choose
public
private
charter,
whatever
makes
sense
for
them.
The
question
is
not
where
you
send
your
child
to
school.
E
The
question
is
the
impact
on
the
fiscal
stability
of
the
district,
where
80,
roughly
80
percent
of
our
public
school
students
are
being
educated.
So
I
will
be
happy
if
you'd
like
tom,
to
send
you
some
of
the
lobbying
information
that
comes
through
the
big
five
and
from
the
school
district
directly
to
share
with
you
some
of
that
lobbying
information
that
we
use
every
year
when
we
meet
with
our
legislators,
both
our
local
delegation
and
also
other
legislators
and
I'd
be
happy
to
share
that
with
you
and
decide.
I
L
K
Thank
you
for
the
presentation
very
much
appreciated.
Is
it
a
quick
question
in
terms
of
how
information
related
to
the
budget
and
the
the
budget
vote
on
may
18th
is
communicated
to
the
public
aside
from
virtual
meetings
or
virtual
presentations?
F
M
Sure,
absolutely
and
and
yes,
we
do
mail,
our
budget
edition
of
capital
education
to
all
residents
in
the
city,
and
that
would
have
that
would
have
landed
the
end
of
last
week
or
on
the
weekend,
or
maybe
the
first
part
of
this
week,
so
that
that
has
gone
out.
The
information
is
also
always
available
on
our
website
and
prominently
available
on
our
website,
and
we
do
share
it
through
all
of
our
social
media
channels
as
well.
Trying
to
reach
us
as
many
folks
in
the
city
as
as
we
can.
M
N
M
A
typical
year
we
have
a,
we
have
the
print
edition
of
capital
education
on
a
quarterly
basis.
We
did
not
do
the
fall
or
winter
editions
this
year
because
of
the
financial
impact
of
cover
19
on
our
school
district,
but
it
is
critical
to
us
exactly
the
question
you're
asking
critical
to
us
that
we
get
this
information
about
our
budget
proposal
and,
what's
included
in
there,
what
the
voters
will
be
considering
when
they
go
to
the
polls
to
all
of
our
residents.
K
K
M
K
Well,
it's
151
chestnut
street,
and
so
is
it
just
like
a
postal
service
list?
It's
not
based
on
a
voter
registration.
Well,
I
guess
you
wouldn't
use
that,
but
it's
just
basically
a
postal
service.
K
Okay,
yeah,
I
say
I
have
not
and
that
that
would
include
in
prior
years
as
well.
So
that's
why
I'm
curious
in
terms
of
how
that
information
gets
out
and
to
what
extent
people
are
aware
of
the
vote
coming
up.
M
Thank
you
I'll.
Look
at
that
list
to
see
if,
if
you're
on
there
and
try
and
find
out,
why
you're
not,
but
it
is
again
it's
a
it's.
It's
we
requested
a
mailing
list
and
we've
had
we've
used
the
same
mailing
list
for
years,
obviously
from
the
post
office
of
every
every
residential
property
in
the
city
of
albany,
and
that's
it's
39
or
40
000
addresses
that
we
mail,
we
mail
the
budget
newsletter
to
on
a
regular
basis.
So
I
I
will
look
into
to
your
situation.
K
I
O
O
This
has
been
such
a
difficult
year
and
we've
talked
a
lot
on
the
council
about
students
who
were
doing
virtual
learning
at
home,
but
they
didn't
have
the
you
know
they
didn't
have
the
computers
or
the
ipads
and
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
even
if
they
did
have
them
there
were
there
were
many
students
who
didn't
take
advantage
of
them.
O
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
and
how
many
students,
you
think,
did
not
take
advantage
of
the
virtual
learning
and
and
have
they
lost
so
much
ground
that
you
know
they're
older
students
it
might
affect
their
graduation
rate?
You
could
just
talk
about
what
has
occurred
this
past
year.
F
So
I'll
start
and
then,
if,
if
I
miss
anything,
miss
mckenna
and
then
dr
cesley
wilson
turner,
if
you
could
address
at
both
the
elementary
and
the
secondary
levels,
one
of
the
things
that
we
were
seeing
with
our
students
that
were
virtual
when
we
saw
the
lack
of
engagement
or
the
lack
of
logging
on
we
reached
out
directly
to
families
through
different
avenues.
Our
counselors
may
have
reached
out
some
of
our
hall
monitors.
We
had
them
assisting
with
making
phone
calls.
F
With
regard
to
that
strategy,
we
started
with
ensuring
that
each
household
had
technology,
because
we
knew
that
we
were
not
at
a
one-to-one
computer
student
ratio
back
in
march
of
2020.,
once
we
were
able
to
make
sure
that
each
of
our
households
received
the
technology,
then
we
started
looking
at
hot
spots
and
we
we
worked
with
several
of
our
partners
to
make
sure
that
we
could
get
hot
spots
and
connectivity
into
some
of
our
homes,
because
that
was
also
something
that
we
realized,
that
it
wasn't
just
having
the
technology.
F
It
was
the
access
to
the
internet,
and
so
we
started
working
those
avenues
out.
We
did
apply
right
away
for
our
smart
schools,
grant,
which
then
provided
additional
computers
that
was
awarded
in
july,
and
we
ordered
those
immediately.
We
had
our
paperwork
sitting
there
waiting
for
the
approval,
because
that
was
roughly
two
million
dollars
a
little
bit
more
than
two
million
dollars
that
we
could
not
absorb
in
our
budget.
So
we
couldn't
pay
for
it
up
front
without
knowing
that
we
were
going
to
get
the
funds
for
it
because
we
weren't
sure.
F
So
once
we
were
sure,
then
we
went
ahead
and
made
the
order
we
started
receiving
our
our
chromebooks.
We
had
a
number
of
community
partners
step
up,
100
and
assist
us
with
our
students
getting
computers
donated
directly
to
them.
We
had
a
couple
of
our
faith-based
organizations
metropolitan
baptist
church.
F
We
also
had
our
partnership
with
afe
that
really
worked
very
hard
to
get
several
donations
so
that
we
could
so
that
they
could
supply
our
families
with
computers,
and
so
once
we
eliminated
the
act
of
having
the
technology
and
having
internet
access,
then
it
was
a
matter
of
now.
What
are
some
of
the
challenges
that
we're
seeing?
F
We
saw
that
some
of
our
students
were
having
academic
challenges,
and
so
roughly
in
november,
we
started
to
add
time
where
students
could
come
on
campus
at
the
secondary
level
from
like
in
the
morning,
and
we
had
a
morning
session
and
an
afternoon
session,
and
so
students
could
block
that
time
and
they
could
extend
attend
school
during
that
time
to
get
additional
tutoring
support
that
they
may
need,
or
just
a
space
where
they
could
work
if
they
were
sharing
a
device
in
their
home.
So
those
things
were
done
to
try
and
close
that
gap.
F
The
other
piece
as
we
started
to
bring
students
back
in
the
learning
environment
roughly
mid-third
quarter,
we
had
students
that
had
been
identified
that
may
have
had
chronic
absences
et
cetera.
They
came
back
to
school
five
days
a
week
and
then
at
the
fourth
quarter
was
when
we
brought
back
the
rest
of
those
families
that
identified
that
they
wanted
in-person
learning.
They
came
back
in
a
hybrid
model,
the
elementary
level.
Those
students,
of
course,
were
in
school
five
days
a
week.
F
If
that
was
their
selection,
and
then
we
still
had
the
virtual
for
the
students
at
home
I'll
I'll
tag,
one
last
little
piece
before
dr
wilson,
turner
and
mckenna.
We
also
looked
at
that
social
emotional
piece,
because
some
of
it
was
not
an
academic
component.
F
It
was
the
social,
emotional
well-being
of
our
students,
and
so
we
have
at
the
elementary
level,
we
had
a
daily
component
of
social,
emotional
learning
and
then,
as
the
secondary
students
started
to
come
back,
we
started
looking
at
the
wraparound
services
to
support
those
students
that
demonstrated
a
need-
and
at
this
time
dr
wilson
turner
or
miss
mckenna.
If
there's
anything
that
you'd
like
to
add.
O
O
Thank
you,
you're
welcome,
and
then
I
I
wanted
to
well.
I
was
very
pleased
to
hear
that
you're.
You
know
it's
really
amazing.
The
pendulum
does
swing
back
and
forth.
Doesn't
it
that
you're
moving
towards
a
more
project-based
learning
in
order
to
get
that
higher
level
thinking?
I
know
we
had
moved
away
from
that
for
for
many
years,
and
so
it's
great
to
hear
that
you're
moving
back
in
that
direction,
and
I
wanted
to
ask
about
the
dual
language
program.
O
F
And
dr
wilson
turner,
if
you
could,
I
don't
know
if
she's
still
frozen
or
not,
I
think
I'm
unfrozen.
Can
you
there.
You.
G
G
So
we
had
a
proposal
and
actually
it's
probably
been
a
proposal
for
a
long
time,
a
request
for
a
long
time
to
actually
look
at
expanding
our
dual
language
program.
I
mean
at
its
core
footprint
at
the
delaware
community
school.
G
There
wasn't
room
to
add
any
additional
sections
of
that
program,
and
so,
with
the
return
of
our
albany
international
center,
our
director
of
enl
and
refugee
services
and
our
principal
delaware,
community,
school
and
former
aic
principal,
began
to
look
at
the
possibilities
of
expanding
dual
language
as
a
part
of
a
larger
language
program
as
a
part
of
the
site
that
our
albany
international
center
would
be
a
part
of,
and
that's
at
the
current
edmund
o'neill
building.
G
And
so
what
moving
the
dual
language
program
will
do
is
in
the
next
year
we
will
be
able
to
expand
up
to
two
grade
levels.
So,
instead
of
just
having
one
what
we
call
one
section
of
you
know
each
grade
level,
we
will
begin
to
add
a
second
section
and
provide
more
dual
language
learning
opportunities
for
the
students
in
the
city,
school
district
of
albany.
But
again
the
move
was
made
to
that
location
because
after
we
have
space
available,
we
have
space
for
the
program
to
grow
and
be
sustained.
G
O
It's
been,
I
think
it's
been
at
the
delaware
community
school
for
quite
a
while
hasn't
it
did
you
look
at
you
know,
making
more
of
the
school
dual
language
is.
Does
that
look
like
that?
So
it's.
G
I
know
at
one
point:
it
was
at
eagle
point:
it's
had
a
couple
of
different
homes
over
the
course
of
its
tenure,
but
I
do
realize
that
it
has
been
its
home
has
been
a
dcs
for
a
good
amount
of
time
and
the
only
way
that
we
could
expand
without
impacting
the
neighborhood
students
in
that
community
was
to
relocate
it
and
we
decided
not
to
impact
the
neighborhood
community,
because
we
already
close
out
seats
to
delaware,
community
school
families
that
live
in
that
neighborhood,
because
we
are
housing,
the
dual
language
program
there.
G
So
we
really
looked
for
a
new
space
that
would
truly
be
dedicated
to
language
learning,
and
so
they
would
be
able
to
work
in
partnership
with
our
students
who
are
new
to
the
country
and
learning
english.
And
so
it's
it's
a
really
a
multi-lingual
vision
that
we
have
to
support
language
learning
in
our
district.
Okay,.
P
Thank
you
all.
I
have
a
question
about
the
athletics.
I
noticed
it
went
down
222
thousand
dollars.
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
can
explain
where
that
is
whether
it's
programs
or
staff
or
whatever,
whatever
the
reason
is.
F
F
You'll
see
that
there
was
a
reinstatement
of
several
physical
education
teachers,
we're
also
opening
up
the
the
opportunities
so
that
we
can
get
our
assistant
coaches
back
and
helping
to
assist
with
the
coaching,
as
well
as
with
the
use
of
the
north
albany
middle
school
campus.
F
The
way
in
which
we
have
been
able
to
rotate
through
for
training
and
things
like
that.
We've
been
able
to
enhance
that
particular
training
out
of
season
by
being
able
to
use
that
campus
because
of
that
facility,
and
so
those
are
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
miss
roaring.
I
don't
know
if
there's
anything
else
to
add.
H
Superintendent
adams,
the
only
thing
I
would
add
is
that
we
are
utilizing
some
of
our
currently
available
funds
to
make
some
of
the
unif
uniform
purchases
and
things
like
that
that
the
program
needs
now
and
then
that
will
relieve
some
of
the
expense.
Next
year.
P
E
We've
been
talking
about
forums
as
opposed
to
task
force
primarily,
and
we
will
probably
also
do
a
survey.
I
Q
Q
You
for
for
the
continued
partnership
that
you
have
with
the
city
as
it
relates
to
coming
in
front
of
us
and
talking
about
the
budget
and
just
opening
lines
of
communications
and
moving
forward
with
our
school
district.
Q
As
many
of
you
aware,
you
know
many
people
don't
know
that
council
members
are
not
actually
on
the
school
board,
but
there
are
some
people
who
believe
that
we
have
an
influence
with
the
school
board
and
also
with
the
school
district
and
have
it
say,
but
I
just
want
to
thank
you
all
for
your
continued
leadership
and
the
work
that's
being
done,
particularly
in
these
challenging
times.
Q
One
of
my
colleagues
brought
it
up
as
relates
to
the
digital
divide
and
something
that
I've
been
really
intentional
about
trying
to
address
over
the
past
couple
of
years,
and
I'm
glad
that
some
of
the
response
from
the
superintendent
is
satisfactory
and
just
look
forward
to
continue
working
with
the
school
district
to
put
a
debt
and
making
sure
that
everyone
in
our
city
have
access
to
affordable,
reliable
internet
in
the
city
of
albany.
My
first
question
is
also
with
the
international
center.
Q
Can
you
speak
a
little
bit
about
that?
It's
really
during
the
mayor's
state
of
the
state
state
of
the
city
address
talked
about
the
increase
in
refugee
and
immigrant
population
moving
into
the
city
of
albany.
What
are
some
of
the
actions
that's
being
taken
to
address
this
and
making
sure
that
we're
helping
these.
E
The
plan
is
to
expand
that
to
be
a
k-12
program
housed
at
edmond
o'neill,
as
we
talked
about
before
in
conjunction
with
the
dual
language
program.
So
that
will
be
a
really
important
program.
Again,
that's
optional!
For
parents,
it
is
a
program
that
you
can
stay
in
for
two
up
to
two
years
as
your
language
skills
increase
and
improve
and
you're
ready
to
join
mainstream
education,
and
we
still
do
provide
language
supports
at
almost
every
school,
maybe
even
almost
maybe
even
every
school.
E
I'm
sure
the
superintendent
knows
for
language
learners
who
are
in
our
every
school
as
well,
and
we
are
preparing
and
planning
for
that
increase
again.
What
we
saw
was
an
increase
for
a
long
time,
followed
by
a
decrease
or
a
lack
of
increase
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
but
we
expect
that
we'll
be
coming
back.
E
Q
Q
I
understand
that
the
school
district
is
estimated
to
receive
approximately
46
million
dollars
from
the
american
rescue
plan
and
to
replace
lost
revenue
as
a
result
of
the
pandemic.
My
question
is
more
so
why
is
the
district
proposing
a
tax
increase
when
a
district
is
receiving
this
historic
amount
of
revenue.
F
One
of
the
things
that
we
have
seen
and-
and
I
want
to
clarify-
we
have
9.5
million
dollars
in
our
foundation,
aid
that
has
been
increased
and
the
foundation
aid
is
our
base
level
of
funding,
but
that's
also
over
two
years
and
and
so
we're
still
looking
at
while
in
one
year
it
looks
it.
It
shows,
as
a
12
increase,
it's
actually
a
little
bit
less
than
that
roughly
half,
simply
because
that's
over
two
years.
I
think,
mr
lesko,
if
you
could
share
the
slide.
E
E
E
S
E
I
see
well
the
big
I
mean
that
for
us
the
factor
is
what's
recurring
and
what's
one
time
and
just
like
for
the
city,
the
one-time
funds
are
one
time,
and
so
they
do.
They
are
not
going
to
allow
us
to
provide
ongoing
staffing
in
a
recurring
way,
because
by
2024
they
will
no
longer
be
will
be
available
to
us.
So
you
know
I
understand
that
the
city
has
made
different
decisions
than
the
school
district
has
had
has
made.
F
Okay,
I
think
those
slides
miss
roaring
if
you
could
walk
us
through
those
slides
again,
because
I
think
that
kind
of
shows
and
then
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
As
we
talk
about
the
one-time
funds.
H
Okay,
so
looking
at
the
proposed
revenue,
we
are
recognizing
a
decrease
in
our
medicaid
reimbursement.
We
are
also
recognizing
a
decrease
in
local
revenue
which
again
comes
from
use
fees,
rebates
and
reimbursements,
interest,
earnings
and
pilot
payments
that
are
going
down
next
year.
We
do
have
a
9.5
million
dollar
state
aid
increase,
including
building
aid
year-over-year,
but
again
that's
really
a
two-year
increase
because
we
were
held
flat
in
2021,
so
we're
looking
at
two
years
of
increased
expenditures
that
are
being
absorbed
by
that.
H
H
When
we
merge
the
three
of
those
together,
that's
eight
million
dollars
of
expense
increase
and
that
largely
consumes
the
9.6
million
dollar
state
aid
increase
we're
looking
at
so
we
have
proposed
those
modest
modest
tax
levy
increase
for
next
year
to
help
provide
that
recurring
revenue
that
gives
us
that
long-term
fiscal
stability
that
allows
us
to
sustain
the
programs
that
our
children
very
much
need
and
then
looking
to
target
some
of
those
federal
funds
for
one-time
expenditures
in
our
maintenance
area
in
our
facilities
and
technology,
as
well
as
using
those
resources
to
expand
programmatic
opportunities
for
students
such
as
growing
out
the
dual
language
program
and
aic.
H
Providing
additional
supports
for
students
in
after
school
programming
and
summer
program
this
year,
really
enhancing
those
opportunities
for
students
and
then
the
various
music
additional
opportunities
we're
looking
to
provide
students
last
year.
Unfortunately,
this
year
was
a
very
different
year.
Students
didn't
have
the
opportunity
to
participate
for
a
number
of
reasons,
including
staffing
and
bringing
those
staffing
levels
beyond.
Q
Career,
thank
you
and
my
final
one
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
some
of
the
improvements
that
we
have
seen
as
relates
to
the
graduation
rate
in
our
school
district
and
as
a
former
coach
at
albany.
High
athletics
is
very
important
to
me.
You
know
being
an
allstate
running
back
in
high
school.
It
gave
me
opportunity
not
to
brag
or
nothing,
but
it
gave
me
opportunity
to
pursue
my
career
and
anybody
laughing
like
okay.
Q
It
gave
me
an
ample
opportunity
to
put
me
where
I
am
today
and
I
just
want
to
say
you
know
my
colleague,
tom
hobby,
echoed
as
related
to
the
athletic
program
and
to
you
know
to
make
sure
that
we're
supporting
athletics
athletics
could
be
used
as
a
vehicle
for
our
students
to
get
where
they
need
to
go
and
to
succeed
in
life.
So
I
just
want
to
stress
the
importance
of
athletics
and,
if
there's
funding
available,
to
continue
to
fund
athletics,
our
our
coaches
are
mentors
they're
life,
savers.
Q
Sometimes
just
you
know,
student
athlete
making
a
wrong
decision.
It
could
be
a
difference
between
talking
to
a
coach
or
not
talking
to
anyone.
So
I
just
want
to
say
that
if
we
could
continue
to
fund
athletic
fully
fund
athletics,
the
residents
of
our
city
were
greatly
appreciated
and
I
think
that
it
would
change
lives
and
many
of
the
marginalized
communities
who
don't
have
the
after-school
programs
that
are
available
to
some
in
our
city.
L
Thank
you
thank
you
and
it's
always
nice
to
see
familiar
faces.
My
my
question
is
around
attendance.
My
question
is
around
the
transportation
and
we
have
talked
about
the
1.5.
L
Has
there
been
any
thought
or
conversation
with
the
state
leadership
about
making
an
adjustment
to
the
1.5
when
you
factor
in
certain
neighborhoods
in
their
neighborhood
schools,
their
slots
are
already
taken,
and
so
it
creates
scenarios
where
you
know
you
have
families
walking
1.4
miles.
You
know
1.45
miles
and
if
not,
are
we
looking
at
alternatives?
L
You
know
back
in
the
days
we
used
to
go
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
and
you
know
what
attendance
being
is
has
always
been
important,
but
you
know
extremely
that's
what
we're
focusing
on.
Has
anybody
put
thought
into
those
those
scenarios.
F
So
we
have
our
community
and
government
relations
committee
and
I'm
going
to
ask
mr
lesko
to
kind
of
join
in
on
this
response,
as
well
as
president
savage,
because
that
has
been
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
worked
on
and
there
were.
There
was
an
assembly
bill
in
the
senate
bill
as
well
with
regard
to
looking
at
the
criteria
for
safe
zones
and
looking
at
how
we
then
could
take
that
criteria
and
apply
it
to
our
needs
here
in
the
district.
And
so
we
did
have
our.
That
was
one
of
our
legislative
priorities.
F
So,
yes,
we
have
been
doing
that
advocacy
with
regard
to
transportation,
and
so
I'm
going
to
ask
mr
lesko
to
chime
in
with
regard
to
community
government
relations
as
well
as
transportation.
E
I
wonder,
let
me
start
and
then
ron
can
pick
up
so
we
have.
We
have
lobbied
on
that
issue
quite
extensively
two
ways,
one
which
would
be
obviously
the
preferred
approach.
I
think,
for
the
entire
state
would
be
to
have
a
truly
equitable
distribution
of
our
transportation
dollars
right.
E
It
should
not
be
the
case
that
people
with
large
amounts
of
family
wealth
have
the
access
to
transportation
and
kids,
who
really
need
that
transportation
don't
have
access
to
it,
but
unfortunately
the
state
law,
as
you
well
know,
is
1.5,
no
matter
where
you
are
no
matter
what
your
family
circumstance
is.
That
is
how
the
law
is
written.
E
So
we
tried
lobbying
for
just
a
straight
reduction
so
that
we
could
make
that
that's
a
smaller
radius
and
the
guidance
that
we
got
from
every
legislator
we
spoke
to
is
there's
no
way
we
can
get
that
passed.
It
just
would
cost
the
state
too
much
money
and
there's
just
no
way
we
can
get
it
passed.
E
So,
instead,
we
took
a
slightly
different
attack,
different
tactic,
which
the
superintendent
mentions,
which
is
a
thing
called
the
child
safety
zones,
and
that
is
an
aspect
of
the
law
that
says
that,
if
it's
unsafe
for
the
child
to
walk,
then
we
can
provide
transportation
at
less
than
that
1.5.
So
there's
two
issues
there.
One
is
that
the
regulations
are
inconsistent
with
the
existing
law.
The
other
is
that
the
inconsistent,
the
law
current
law
is
not
sufficiently
broad.
It
does
not.
The
the
regulations,
as
a
result
are
very
suburban
in
orientation.
E
It's
unsafe,
if
there's
no
sidewalk,
it's
unsafe.
If
the
speed
limit
is
very
high,
it's
unsafe
under
those
kinds
of
circumstances
which
are
very
transportation
oriented,
but
the
regulations
don't
incorporate
a
high
vacancy
rate.
For
example,
they
don't
incorporate
a
high
percentage
of
industrial
properties
or
a
high
crime
rate.
So
we
are
continuing
our
efforts
to
try
and
get
the
law
changed
and
the
regulations
change
to
make
it
possible
for
us
to
just
declare
a
child
safety
zone.
E
That
would
allow
us
to
provide
to
legally
provide
transportation
for
children
in
a
smaller
radius,
and
that
is
what
we
are
trying
desperately
to
do.
It's
actually
as
soon
as
we
get
through
may
18th.
It's
my
number
one
priority,
because
I've
been
in
touch
with
some
folks
at
the
department
of
transportation
to
try
and
get
the
regulations
changed,
because
even
the
regulations
are
not
completely
consistent
with
the
law.
So
there's
some
work
that
could
be
done
even
without
a
law
being
passed.
E
If
we
can
get
department
of
transportation
who's
for
reasons
having
to
do
with
the
way
the
law
is
written.
It
follows
the
department
of
transportation
to
change
those
regs,
so
you're
right,
it's
a
problem,
and
it's
something
I
know
we
need
to
fix.
I
know
transportation
is
really
important
for
attendance
and
it's
something
we
are
trying
to
work
on.
We
are
substantially
constrained
by
the
the
way
that
the
new
york
state
law
is
written,
around
transportation
dollars.
S
Hi
and
I
actually
when
I
was
in
pat's
office,
I
was
the
one
that
started
on
the
child
safety
zone
thing
and
I
would
just
add
that
the
law
is
actually
written
with
rural
schools
in
mind.
So,
if
you
think
about,
if
you're
driving
in
the
country
there's
the
55
mile
an
hour
school
roads
which
is
entirely
legit,
children
should
not
be
walking
on
those,
but
the
of
course,
the
concept
that
the
school
district,
always
our
small
city,
is
always
fighting
against.
S
S
Well,
I-
and
I
don't
know
where
our
pre-k,
I
should
have
said
five
girls,
but
I
don't
know
any
five-year-old
that
should
be
walking
a
mile
and
a
half
to
school
so
that
we
really
appreciate
your
work
on
that,
because
that
is
a
huge,
huge
issue
and
we
always
appreciate
you
coming
in
here
and
all
the
work
that
you
do
for
our
kids,
because
certainly,
I
believe-
and
I
think
most
of
my
colleagues
believe
that
we
can
only
be
as
good
as
our
schools,
and
that
is
really
when
you
talk
about
any
part
of
our
city
and
our
community.
S
One
of
the
biggest
issues
we
have
in
the
city
of
albany
is
a
revenue
problem
and
that
is
driven
strongly
by
our
schools
and
that's
something
that
I
know
several
of
us
on
here
at
different
points
have
fought
very
hard
to
encourage
families
to
stay
here
by
being
here
ourselves,
but
also
by
really
trying
to
create
an
environment
to
show
what
a
great
community
we
all
have
and
to
show
what
great
schools
we
have.
S
So
we
appreciate
you
continuing
that
really
incredible
work,
because
that
is
ultimately
what
makes
our
city
great,
and
I
think
we
are
all
very
aware
of
that-
and
I
I
just
like
a
quick
with
a
computer
issue.
I
just
wanted
to
give
like
a
quick
shout
out
to
the
albany
fund
for
education.
S
I
know
superintendent
adams,
you
did,
but
are
that
I'm
on
the
board
for
that
organization
and
our
our
executive
director,
mari
shapsis
and
the
board
worked
so
hard
to
get
as
many
computers
into
children's
hands
as
possible
and
and
it's
it
was
so
important.
As
councilmember
alston
says,
he
talks
a
lot
about
connectivity
and
how
important
that
wireless
connection
is-
and
I
think
that
this
crisis
highlighted
that,
and
I
I
also
wanted
to
say
so
before
I
was
on
the
school
board.
S
I
was
part
of
this
big
huge
committee
about
where
sixth
grade
should
be,
and
we
decided
that
it
should
be
in
the
middle
school
and
there's
a
lot
of
reasons
that
went
into
it,
but
I
am
impressed
that
you
guys
are
finally
doing
it,
because
this
was
before
I
was
on
the
school
board.
So
clearly
I
didn't
do
it
then,
but
I
know
the
reason
why
we
didn't
do
it
and
it's
because
it
was
incredibly
complicated
to
actually
move
that
body
of
students.
So
I'm
I
think
it's
amazing.
S
It
is
if
you're
aware
of
the
actual
issue,
it
things
change
in
middle
school
and
it
you
kids,
just
get
different
access
to
different
things,
and
I
really
appreciate.
I
know
that
whatever
went
into
that,
it
was
a
lot
of
work,
and
I
appreciate
you
investing
in
that,
because
that
is
something
that's
really,
I
know,
impacted
our
kids
and
has
created
some
inequitable
situations
that
we
haven't,
loved
and
and
the
teachers
have
it's
been
difficult
for
them
to
deal
with
as
well.
S
So
thank
you
for
actually
making
it
happen
after
you
know,
12
years
I
don't
even
know
so
I
I
have
to
say
I
am,
and
I
appreciate
my
colleague,
councilmember
nane,
bringing
up
as
somebody
that
has
been
deeply
involved
in
budgeting
and
funding
and
aware
of
the
state
budget
runs
over
the
years.
I
am
fully
aware
of
the
tax
levy
impact
years
here,
and
actually
I
before
I
get
into
that,
I
do
have
a
question.
S
F
I
know
that
we
were
sharing
what
the
impact
would
be
of
the
tax
levy,
so
in
terms
of
the
building
bonds,
I
think
we'd
have
to
go
back.
I
know
that
we
looked
at
it
with
star
without
star.
Is
that.
E
Yeah
impact
that
yeah
the
increase,
the
increase
shows
in
the
debt
service
number
okay,
but
I
don't
have
the
total
number
in
my
mind.
S
No
that's
as
long
as
it's
something
that
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
not
an
additional
right
here,
something
that
would
have
to
be
considered
additionally,
so.
S
As
long
as
it's
wrapped
into
the
overall
I'm
that's
great,
and
I
appreciate
you
guys
doing
that
because
I
know
that
that
also
impacts
your
overall
budget
totals
as
you're
looking
at
them
and
the
impact
on
people.
S
So
I
went
back
through
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
you
get
rid
of
over
the
years
and
there's
some
things
you
can't
bear
to
get
rid
of,
and
one
of
mine
is
state
aid
runs.
I
have
them
until
from
2013-14,
which
is
a
little
weird
I
will
admit,
but-
and
I
I
have
to
say
I
do
not
recommend
going
back
to
when
I
was
on
the
board.
We
were
in
a
dire
financial
situation
and
we
were
really
trying
to
that.
S
That
is
when
we
did
have
in
the
50s
graduation
rate.
There
were
some
dire
things
that
were
happening.
I
think
it
is
fantastic
that
we
have
a
significantly
higher
budget
than
when
we
were
on
the
board,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
the
choices
that
were
made
is
a
good
one,
but
in
the
2013-14
budget
there
were
8
272
children
and
our
foundation
aid,
so
just
foundation
aid,
not
all
the
other
things
I
figured
that
would
be
easier,
was
49.9
million
dollars
in
the
upcoming
budget.
S
We
are
looking
at
8,
328
children,
so
a
similar
amount
of
children
and
the
foundation
aid
is
92
million
dollars.
S
We
are
in
a
pandemic
and
right
now
all
of
the
I
have
people
in
my
ward
and
I
I
know
that
people
property
owners
don't
reach
out
to
you
the
same
way
that
they
do
to
council
members.
But
I
have
people
in
my
ward
that
are
homeowners
that
haven't
been
able
to
pay
their
mortgage.
I
have
small
scale
landlords
that
own,
like
their
house
and
one
other
one
that
haven't
been
able
to
pay
their
mortgages,
and
I
I
could
not
believe
it
when
I
saw
that
you
guys
were
raising
taxes.
S
I
understand
that
you're
going
back
to
that
broad
many
years.
I
also
understand
that
you
know
you
that
you
didn't
get
an
increase
last
year.
No
one
did
we're
in
a
pandemic
and
it
is
absolutely
unconscionable
to
me.
I
I'm
like
I
am
sick
about
it,
that
you
guys
would
make
that
choice.
Our
I
I
mean,
and,
and
the
thing
is
our
kids-
I
get
it-
our
kids
are
hurting.
I've
got.
I
have
kids,
I've
joked
like.
S
I
basically
have
two
high
school
dropouts
that
are,
you
know,
they're
allowed
to
be,
and
it's
it's
and
I
don't
envy
any
of
the
choices
that
you've
had
to
make
through
this,
but
I
absolutely
could
not
believe
that
the
choice
was
made
to
raise
taxes
this
year.
This
is
the
year
that
this
year
is
when
it's
really
going
to
hit
people.
This
is
when
those
mortgage
payments
that
you
haven't
been
paying
is
going
to
come
in.
S
Our
taxes
are
already
high
and
I
firmly
believe
in
I
mean
I,
I
so
deeply
believe
in
education,
and
I
deeply
believe
in
paying
for
education
and
I
have
advocated
and
will
continue
to
advocate
in
the
future,
for
a
taxi
increase
to
pay
for
education.
I
just
believe
in
it
it's
the
right
thing,
but
we
also
need
partners
that
understand
when
our
city
is
struggling
and
our
city
is
struggling,
and
I
cannot
believe
that
you
didn't
listen
to
that
and
that
you
made
the
choice
to
raise
taxes.
S
I'm
also
concerned-
and
I
I
have
to
say
that
I
think
during
the
pandemic,
we
all
had
to
make
different
choices,
that
who
knows
what
will
happen
in
the
future
with
them,
but
I
hope
that
I'm
concerned
about
precedence.
It's
something
we
deal
with
a
lot
in
state
and
local
government
precedence
matters,
and
even
if
there
is
an
extreme
situation,
people
bring
it
back
and
say:
well,
you
did
it,
then.
So
I
am
very
concerned
about
the
precedence
of
going
fully
removed
for
secondary
as
a
budget
choice.
S
I
hope
that
it's
something
that
you
guys
have
clearly
that
you
do
not
actually
think
that
you're
fulfilling
your
constitutional
obligation
to
go
fully
remote.
It
was
a
unique
situation,
but
it
it's
not
that
to
me
is
not
fully
educating
a
child.
I
also
think
it
is
I'm
concerned
of
the
precedence
of
having
a
classroom
of
children
being
taught
by
a
virtual
teacher.
S
I
think
that,
and
I
can
tell
you,
I
fully
expect
tax
increases
in
the
future,
because
I
think
that
a
lot
of
our
kids
are
going
to
be
suffering
from
being
fully
remote
for
a
year.
A
lot
of
our
older
kids.
I
have
two
I
mean
I
have
three
children.
S
My
oldest
is
in
college,
but
my
younger
two.
I
had
one
that
just
rocked
remote
that
they
like
loved.
It
decided
to
stay
with
remote,
but
I
have
to
say,
like
this:
child
also
made
the
choice
to
do
homework
on
a
friday
night
when
they
could
have
done
other
things.
So
a
very
motivated
person.
S
I
have
the
other
one
that
that
got
really
good
at
skateboarding
and
when
they
are
in
that
secondary
school
zone,
even
if
you're
a
highly
engaged
parent,
you
don't
know
what's
happening,
you
don't
know
how
to
be
in
touch.
S
You
don't
know
how
to
hold
them
accountable,
and
fortunately
you
know
they're
going
off
to
college
and
got
into
college
and
I'm
thrilled,
and
but
if
that
child
was
in
middle
school,
I
don't
know
I
I
we
probably
wouldn't
be
here,
we
probably
which
is
crazy
to
me
to
think,
but
because
we
have
the
option
to
do
other
things
we're
fortunate
enough.
S
So
I
it's
my
hope
that
those
precedents
are
that
you
are
all
working
very
hard
to
make
sure
that
people
know
that
that
was
not
actually
an
acceptable
precedence
that
you
had
no
other
choice
because
the
pandemic-
and
that
is
not
to
minimize
the
hard
work
of
the
p
of
everyone
that
went
into
it,
because
I
know
it's
so
hard
and
I
appreciate
all
of
our
teachers
and
staff.
We
you
know
through
afe.
S
We
did
a
lot
of
work,
not
just
with
computers
but
with
getting
backpacks
full
of
food
to
kids
and
the
staff
has
just
been
absolutely
incredible.
So
I
know
people
are
working
hard,
I'm
not
minimizing
hard
work,
I'm
just
saying
that
there's
some
great
ways
to
educate
a
child
and
there's
some
not
so
so
great
ways
to
educate
a
child,
and
it's
my
hope
that
you
clearly
delineate
so
you
don't
create
a
precedence
that
hurts
our
children
in
the
future.
F
So,
thank
you
so
very
much.
I
appreciate
hearing
all
of
your
thoughts
and
on
you
and
I've
had
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
talk.
You
know
when
we
talked
about
bringing
our
students
back
and
what
that
means,
and
so
I'll
start
with.
As
I've
always
said
since
the
very
beginning,
we
know
that
it
is
critically
important
for
our
students
to
be
in
person
and
learning
in
person.
We
are
in
a
worldwide
pandemic.
It
is
not
just
us
it's
around
the
world
and
so
have
we
learned
some
best
practices
about
virtual
learning.
F
Yes,
we
have
have
we
learned
some
best
practices
about
blended
learning.
Yes,
we
have
have
we
looked
at
what
we
can
do
to
improve
in-person
learning?
Yes,
we
have-
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
to
to
understand
is
that
we
are
not
planning
for
full
virtual
712
k12
unless
there's
something
out
of
the
ordinary
that
happens
when
we
talk
about
a
virtual
option,
while
you
I,
I
truly
respect
and
understand
what
you
say.
F
We
also
have
a
group
of
families
that
are
not
comfortable
because
it's
a
worldwide
pandemic
who
want
their
children
virtual,
which
is
why,
when
you
look
at
the
slide
that
we're
sharing
the
virtual
option
is
not
mandatory,
it
is
an
option
for
those
families
that
moving
forward
may
still
have
a
little
ojna
about
coming
into
the
schools,
regardless
of
what
we
do
we're
in
a
worldwide
pandemic.
Now
we
also
know
that
there
have
to
be
some
allowances
and
permissions
via
new
york,
state
education,
department
and
so
depending
on
what
happens
there.
F
Virtual
may
or
may
not
be
an
option,
but
we
have
to
plan
as
though
it
is
because,
as
it
stands
now
we
are
still
providing
that
option
for
those
families
who
look
for
that
option
for
their
children,
but,
first
and
foremost,
we
are
looking
at
making
our
actual
plans
at
bringing
our
students
back
in
person
five
days
a
week.
We
are
looking
at
that.
We
know
that
there's
also
the
building
capacity
that
we
have
to
align
with.
D
F
That's
based
on
the
guidance
and
if
that's
the
only
limitation
that
we
have,
then
we
are
back
fully
in
person,
but
there
are
some
constraints
beyond
our
control
that
we
have
to
align
with,
and
but
I
do
want
to
make
it
very
clear
that
we
want
to
have
all
of
our
kids
back
in
person,
because
we
know,
especially
at
this
age
group.
These
are
the
things
that
work
best
for
our
students
when
we
have
them
in
person.
F
When
we
can
do
you
know
the
face-to-face
learning,
when
we
can
engage
them
in
high
critical
thinking
activities
when
they
can
be
engaged
in
project-based
learning,
when
they
can
have
the
full
complement
of
athletics
and
and
extracurricular
activities,
along
with
our
enrichment
activities,
our
music
program,
our
art,
our
theater
chorus
band,
we
all
of
those
things
as
educators.
It's
not
a
hope.
We
understand
the
whole
child
development,
it's
not
that
we
don't.
We
do
and
we
have
those
things
in
place.
F
But
there
are
certain
things
that
we
can't
control,
and
so
I
want
to
assure
you
and
our
community
that
education
is
not
just
about
the
academics.
It's
the
whole
child,
which
is
another
reason
why
we're
looking
at
the
social,
emotional
learning
for
our
students
being
embedded
in
the
program?
And
so
that's
something
that
we're
looking
at,
not
just
at
the
elementary
level,
but
also
at
the
secondary
level.
F
And
so,
when
we
talk
about
those
kinds
of
things,
those
are
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
moving
forward
and
we
are
trying
to
those
things
that
we
need
to
sustain
over
time,
and
I
think
this
kind
of
lends
itself
to
the
taxes
and
then
I'll
open
it
up
for
deputy
superintendent,
roaring
or
president
savage
to
chime
in
when
we
look
at
those
kinds
of
things
within
our
budget.
F
F
F
I
think
it
will
be
clear
what
I'm
saying:
I'm
not
making
any
accusations.
I
am
making
statements
because
I
don't
believe
you
made
any
accusations
either,
and
so
I
don't
want
you
to
presume
that
I
am
making
any
accusations,
because
that's
not
what
I'm
saying
I'm
just
explaining
our
stance,
I'm
just
explaining
that
that
it.
F
As
we
move
forward.
And-
and
so
I
truly
understand
I
understand-
I
can't
say
that
I
don't
understand,
because
I
do,
and
I
understand
the
difficult
decisions
that
that
all
of
us
have
to
make
across
the
board
and
so
in
looking
at
the
needs
of
our
students
and
when
we
look
at
what
we
are
trying
to
build
in
for
sustainability.
F
And
so
I'll
open
it
up
for
any
other
comments
from
miss
roaring
or
from
president
savage.
E
E
E
There
there's
everybody,
so
I
will.
I
just
want
a
second
what
the
superintendent
said
about
in-person
education.
Not
only
is
that
what
we
want,
but
it's
what
we're
advocating
for.
I
know
that
many
people
are
aware
of
the
efforts
made
by
all
of
the
regional
superintendents
with
an
advocacy
piece
around
the
changes.
We
really
need
to
see
to
the
new
york
state
department
of
health
regulations,
guidance
around
kobit.
E
That
would
guarantee
us
the
ability
to
get
a
hundred
percent
of
our
kids
in
person
all
day
every
day,
92
superintendents
in
the
region
signed
on
to
that.
What
the
guidance
is
it
currently
stands
is
really
difficult
and
it's
not
an
albany
situation.
It's
not
just
us.
It's
everybody.
If
you
need
to
keep
your
kids
six
feet
apart
at
lunch,
we've
all
been
in
a
lunch
room.
E
We
know
the
kids
are
not
six
feet
apart,
so
if
they
need
to
be
six
feet
apart
at
lunch,
then
we're
going
to
need
to
provide
some
other
space
for
them
to
be
in
or
more
time
for
lunch,
and,
as
I
know
that
those
of
you
who've
had
kids
in
albany
schools
know
we
already
have
lunch
at
10
o'clock
in
the
morning
in
some
places.
So
so
really
more
lunches
is
not
really
an
option.
We
need
more
space
for
lunches,
so
we
are
having
tents
and
we'll
do
all
that
that
has
some
weather
limitations.
E
We
are
not
san
diego,
sadly,
so
february
is
not
going
to
be
a
tent
the
better
solution,
if
it's
consistent
with
the
public
health
guidance,
is
to
limit
that
to
three
feet,
and
then
we
could
start
talking
about
really
getting
a
hundred
percent
of
our
kids
in.
I
think
this
is
just
me
thinking
guessing.
I
do
not
know
this.
It's
likely
that
we're
going
to
see
some
of
that
guidance
change
right,
because
we're
gonna
see
that
our
numbers
are
down.
We
are
right
now
in
the
yellow
zone,
in
the
cdc
guidelines.
E
All
of
the
counties
surrounding
us
are
not,
however,
so
it's
a
little
bit
alarming
right.
We
could
easily
drift
back
to
orange
or
please
not
drift
back
to
red
and
if
those
things
happen
and
we
have
to
be
at
six
feet,
we
could
very
well
be
hybrid
again
for
seven
to
twelve
next
year,
but
that
is
in
my
way
of
thinking
a
backup
plan
right.
E
Our
plan
is
the
guidance
is
going
to
change
or
we're
going
to
have
three
feet:
separation
in
the
classrooms
and
less
than
75
percent
of
the
kids
choosing
in-person
education,
which
is
going
to
allow
us
to
get
100
of
the
kids
all
day
every
day.
The
important
factor-
and
I
think
it's
the
one
you're
alluding
to
jenny-
is
that
if
we
have
to
make
a
different
decision,
it's
a
decision
that
we're
going
to
make
on
public
health
reasons,
not
on
budget
reasons
right
and
that's
like
every.
N
E
Every
other
district
in
the
state
is
going
to
be,
and
probably
the
country
is
faced
with
that
exact
same
thing
and
that's
different
than
what
happened
this
year
this
year.
As
a
result
of
gamesmanship
from
the
new
york
state
department
of
budget
schenectady,
albany,
rochester
buffalo,
all
of
the
big
schools
went
full
virtual.
Some
of
them
are
still
full
virtual
right.
S
Oh
absolutely,
and-
and
I
I
understand
I'm-
my
point-
is
coming
from
the
the
campaign
for
fiscal
equity
era
with
that
concept
of
the
sound
basic
education
setting
that
precedence,
so
when
initially
those
and
not
just
albany
those
other
districts
going
fully
remote
as
a
choice
as
a
budget
choice.
That's
what
concerns
me
so.
E
E
S
So
I
appreciate
that
that
that
that's
a
wonderful
thing
and
I
I
also
fully
appreciate
the
plans
for
next
year.
I
also
totally
understand
the
families
that
might
make
the
choice
to
stay
home,
and
I
I
it
means
a
lot
that
you
are
looking
to
to
support
them
through
that.
This
is
certainly
not
an
easy
choice
any
of
this,
and
there
might
be
opportunities.
S
There
are
days
that
it
is
really
cold
and
our
kids
do
have
to
walk
a
mile
and
a
half
it
having
a
virtual
opportunity
for,
for
you
know
our
six-year-old
baby
that
doesn't
want
to
walk
out
the
parents,
don't
want
them
to
walk
a
mile
in
and
would
rather
stay
home
with
them
and
do
something
virtually
where
they
can
still
get
something.
There
is
there's
potential
for
growth,
and
I
I
mean
I
will
have
friends
that
will
hate
me
for
it.
S
I
wouldn't
mind
you
know
having,
especially
in
secondary,
I
don't
mind
if
they
don't
have
snow
days,
although
am
I
still
spoons
in
my
freezer,
which,
if
you
know
me
it's
like
an
ongoing
joke,
because
my
kids
still
want
a
snow
day.
So
but
I
I
I
really
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
S
F
That's
why
that's
why
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
where
we
have
that
virtual
option
listed,
that's
why
we
have
that
note
about
the
state
education
department,
because
we
may
not
even
be
permitted
to
do
that.
But
we
don't
know
that
yet
and
because
we
don't
know
if
this,
if
those
executive
orders
continue,
then
we
would
have
to
have
some
type
of
option,
because
then
it
would
be
permissible.
S
Well,
I
am
relieved
because
it
one
of
the
things
that
concerned
me
was
the
potential
for
especially
with
some
of
the
things
that
were
in
the
past,
coming
out
of
the
bill
and
melinda
gates
foundation
that
this
would
be
used
as
an
opportunity
that
fully
virtual
is
just
a
great
option
for
students
and
for
some
students
it
might
absolutely
be.
I
don't
want
to
minimize
that,
but
I
will
say
I
think
all
of
us
have
seen
a
loss
of
just
important
social
things.
S
F
If
I
could
I'll
add
just
a
little
bit
to
that
with
some
of
the
research
that
we're
starting
to
see
coming
out
about
pre-k-
and
you
know
how
we
believe
in
pre-k-
we
know
that
that's
our
earliest
learners,
but
with
so
many
of
our
pre-k
students
being
at
home.
Some
of
the
research
is
coming
out
that
some
of
those
pre-k
kids
that
are
now
going
to
school
you're
seeing
that
social,
emotional
piece.
It's
not
at
the
same
level,
because
they've
not
been
around
other
students.
F
Some
of
those
I
I
don't
want
to
say
just
courtesies,
but
just
some
of
those
behavioral
expectations
of
collaboration
cooperation
and
those
kinds
of
things
are
very
different.
Even
at
that
age
group
and
we're
seeing
that
research
come
out
because
they're
able
to
do
some
of
those
studies
and
see
that
now.
I
know
that
we'll
see
more
of
it
coming
up
in
the
next
few
years,
because
we're
going
to
see
now
the
impact,
the
true
impact
of
covet
19
in
those
youngest
learners
as
they
move
through
the
system.
F
And
so
I
think
those
are
things
that
we
really
have
to
be
very
mindful
of
which
is
another
reason.
Why
not
just
for
our
older
students
but
for
all
of
our
students
you're,
seeing
a
focus
in
as
we
come
back
and
what
we're
building
in
the
additional
social
workers,
behavioral
specialists
school
psychologists,
those
positions.
U
I
oh
and
it's
been
found,
I'm
being
told
all
right,
so
I
just
felt
the
need
to
chime
in
about
how
important
education
is,
and
we
talk
in
the
city
on
the
council
about
a
lot
about
equity
issues,
about
health,
equity
issues,
about
policing,
equity
issues,
about
housing,
equity
issues,
about
parks
and
services.
U
For
me,
there
are
a
few
that
are
as
important
as
an
education
and
that's
partially,
because
I
know
I've
got
a
great
public
school
education
and
I
would
have
been
a
lost
child
without
that
and
and
it's
and
it's
why
I've
always
been
supportive
of
high
quality
public
education
for
everyone
and
why
I've
said
if
it's
not
good
enough
for
my
kids,
it's
not
good
enough
for
everybody's
kids.
I
appreciate
some
of
the
concerns
that
jenny
is
bringing
to
the
fore
about
virtual
learning.
U
Having
done,
I
can't
imagine,
having
supervised,
allegedly
supervising
my
kids
at
any
age
while
working
from
home,
and-
and
I
think
I
refer
this
to
this
as
I-
I
think
that
we
will
come
to
refer
to
it
as
the
last
year
when
it
comes
to
education,
and
I
think,
there's
going
to
be
consequences
financially
for
the
school
district,
because
I
think,
as
time
goes
on,
we
will
find
a
lot
of
children
just
simply
needing
to
repeat
a
year
more
so
than
we
have
in
the
past
and
and
so
that
is
the
city,
the
school
district,
picking
up
the
cost
at
some
point
for
another
whole
year
of
education,
for
I'm
sure
hundreds
of
kids,
probably
thousands
of
kids
in
our
system
and
and
and
that's
unfortunate.
U
But
if
it
comes
to
that,
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
mindful
of
that.
We
need
to
do
it
in
some
cases.
I
think
we
may
need
to
encourage
parents
to
have
their
kids
repeat
a
year,
and
I
think
the
sooner
we
do
that
so
kids
are
not
losing
self-esteem
because
they
don't
know.
What's
going
on
in
their
next
year
of
school,
you
know
the
sooner
we
do
that
the
better
off
we
will
be.
U
Outrageous-
and
I
understand
that
you
guys
were
dealing
with
some
of
the
consequences.
I
wish
to
some
extent
that
we
knew
maybe
some
of
the
things
that
we
know
now
with
regard
to
covered
numbers
coming
down,
whether
there
being
a
vaccine
albany
county
is
one
of
the
highest
vaccinated
has
one
of
the
highest
vaccination
rates.
I
think
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we're
in
the
yellow
zone
right
now-
and
I
you
know-
I
know
that-
there's
a
struggle
with
getting
you
know
we'll
never
get
to
100.
U
Hopefully
we
will
get
to
much
better
than
where
we
are
at
at
this
point,
but
I
would
have
supported
a
tax
increase
to
make
up
the
difference
to
help
us
begin
to
make
up
the
difference
in
what
we
lost
in
foundation
aid.
U
I
think,
if
and
and
I
think
a
lot
of
people
would
have
supported
that
if
we
knew
that
the
biggest
impact
was
a
one-year
impact,
as
opposed
to
this
huge
question
mark
of
what
is
going
on
so
you're
educating
a
lot
of
children,
a
lot
of
children
with
a
lot
of
needs,
and
I
appreciate
everything
that
you're
doing
to
try
and
figure
that
out.
Thank.
U
B
Okay,
with
that,
we
will
shift
to
our
regular
meeting,
I'd
like
to
say
thank
you
to
superintendent
adams
and
president
savage
for
the
presentation
and
your
thoughtful
leadership
with
the
school
district
and
we'll
shift
to
our
regular
caucus.
Thank
you.
B
B
Okay,
we'll
jump
right
in
mr
ellis
she's.
Still
there
I
know
you've
said
you
have
to
go.
B
Okay,
so
we'll
just
jump
right
into
our
agenda
for
for
monday
for
our
approval
minutes
from
the
previous
meeting.
We'll
have
the
may
3rd
meeting
minutes.
B
Moving
on
there
are
no
local
laws
introduced,
but
under
local
laws,
hell
we're
slated
to
have
fgh
and
I
dealt
with
fng
will
be
in
the
law
committee
tomorrow
and
discussed
so
depending
depending
on
the
outcome
they
may
or
may
not
be
moved
and
h,
and
I
were
held
for
further
discussion,
I
believe
from
the
law
committee.
B
Okay,
moving
on
to
ordinances
introduced,
we
have
by
miss
frederick
and
mr
johnson
authorizing
the
sale
of
delaware
paper
street
in
a
portion
of
alexander
street
that'll,
be
a
referral
to
finance.
That's
an
ordinance
14
52
21..
U
Kelly,
can
I
just
jump
in
there
and
just
say
I
would
love
for
us
to
somehow
rather
get
readable
maps
or
have
somebody
explain
to
us
what
those
maps
are
they're,
very
small
and
normally
you
would
be
able
to
maybe
go.
You
know
somebody
would
come
and
present
them,
but
we're
still
dealing
with
small
screens.
U
B
Okay
and
so
and
yeah,
and
so
maybe
jr
or
danielle,
you
can
reach
out
to
planning
to
try
to
get.
V
V
I
think
the
pdf
version
that
I
attached
with
the
legislation
that
pdf
should
be
capable
of
being
zoomed
in
pretty.
Well,
that's
pretty
high
definition
pdf.
I
can
I'll
I'll
double
check
on
that
and
if
there
is
a
higher
definition
version
available
or
one
that
can
be
better
zoomed
in
I'll,
try
and
find
that
as
well
and
as
for
having
someone
come
in
to
explain
that.
I
I
imagine
that
the
representatives
for
the
sale
intend
to
do
so
at
the
finance
committee
meeting
when
that's
addressed.
V
I
did
have
a
question
possibly
for
council
member
farrell.
Regarding
the
finance
committee
meetings.
I
know
there's
a
it's
called
a
moratorium.
I
guess
on.
S
F
S
Do
have
other
issues
coming
forward.
It's
it's
a
moratorium
on
everything
just
on
personnel
issues
until
we
have
that
resolved.
S
Make
sure
that
we,
because
it's
also
the
function
to
receive
the
financial
updates,
which
I
think
are
pretty
vital
right
now,
so
so
don't
worry.
I
know
that
you're
really
asking
because
you
just
love
going
to
finance
committee
meetings.
J
And
I
just
kind
of
just
lost
one
though
I
know
this
is
just
an
introduction
for
this
ordinance
on
monday,
but
I
will
be
recusing
myself
from
this
particular
ordinance.
B
In
the
record,
so
thank
you,
that'll
be
a
referral
to
finance.
Okay.
Next,
under
ordnance
is
introduced,
15
52
21
and
that's
the
ordinance
regarding
pavement
openings
speaking
sidewalks.
That
will
be
a
referral
to
general
service
by
mr
o'brien
it'll,
be
by
mr
o'brien
to
general
service,
15
52-21.
B
Okay,
next,
we'll
have
ordinance
1652-21
by
miss
love,
ordinance
authorizing
the
sale
of
21.
Is
it
21
and
23,
or
just
23.
V
And
I
just.
B
V
Make
sure
on
that
that
everybody
received
the
updated
version
of
that
the
version
that
initially
went
out
late
on
friday
had
to
be
updated,
which
I
think
I
sent
that
out
to
jr
on
monday.
Just
wanted
to
make
sure
everyone
had
that
version.
B
To
resolutions
introduced
resolution
46
52
21r
by
mr
conti
in
relation
to
the
permit
parking
system
I'll
be
a
referral
to
law.
V
I
Yeah,
the.
P
I
Pat
bailey's
office
want
to
asap.
I
have
me
and
brett
have
to
send
it
out
to
assembly,
council
and
senate
council
asap.
K
We
are
we're
operating
against
a
deadline
here.
The
this
legislative
session
is
scheduled
to
end
the
calendar
says
june
10th.
This
is
just
the
home
rule
message
for
the
permit
parking
bill
of
the
expansion
and
making
it
permanent
that
we
had
in
last
year.
We
didn't
get
to
do
it
last
year
because
of
the
legislature,
all
of
a
sudden,
in
the
wake
of
the
pandemic
stuff,
just
just
did
a
one-year
extender
of
the
existing
system.
K
So
this
includes
the
provision
that
we've
been
talking
about
it
and
I
sent
out
a
map
map
earlier,
so
you
can
get
a
sense
as
to
what
the
expansion
of
the
the
the
radius
from
three
quarters
of
a
mile
to
one
mile
is
that
that's
important
for
areas
like
in
some
of
the
park,
south
pine
hills
of
washington
square
area
it.
It
also
increases
the
number
of
spaces
we
can
allocate
by
750..
K
That's
something
that
you
know
for
councilmember
love
some
of
the
issues
she
has.
We
need
the
additional
spaces
to
try
to
address
some
of
the
issues
there.
It
also
would
make
the
permanent
the
permit
system
permanent.
K
So
we
don't
have
to
go
back
to
the
legislature
every
two
years
or
one
year
or
whatever,
so
even
with
them
introducing
this
bill,
and
it
got
in
a
little
bit
later
than
I
would
have
liked
it,
but
even
with
them
introducing
it
is
gonna,
be
an
uphill
battle
to
try
and
get
something
like
this
through,
but
you
know
we're
at
the
mercy
of
the
legislature
and
their
their
clock,
and
they
can't
do
anything
on
this
until
we
send
them
a
home
rule
message.
K
So
that's
why
it's
really
kind
of
urgent
that
we
we
get
this
to
them
and
you
know,
depending
on
what
happens,
we
might
be
revisiting
this
issue
again,
because
if
they
amend
the
bill
every
time
they
make
an
amendment,
we
need
to
do
another
home
rule
on
it
and,
as
I
say,
they're
they're
scheduled
to
to
adjourn
june
10th,
so
we're
under
a
real
time.
U
I
just
if
I
can
just
jump
in
here,
you
never
know
what
happens
with
the
legislature,
and
richard
was
just
talking
about
if
there's
any
amendments
and
given
the
tight
time
frames
or
whatever.
If
if
we
need
subsequent
to
passing
this
on
monday,
if
we
need
to
approve
an
amendment,
I
do
think
that
that
would
be
cause
to
do
a
special
meeting,
because
this
has
been
such
a
challenge
to
get
anywhere
on
for
my
entire
time
on
the
council.
So.
K
Yeah
and
remember
this
this
this-
this
is
just
an
author.
I
mean
if
they
do
pass
this,
it's
an
authorization
to
us.
So
it
comes
back
to
the
council
to
actually
determine
where
the
expansion
is
where
those
spots
are
allocated,
but
yeah.
If,
if
need,
if
we
need
to
do
a
you
know
a
special
meeting,
we
would
have
to
do
that.
We've
done
that
in
the
past
for
home
rules
when
we're
under
a
a
tight
time
frame,
because
we're
at
the
mercy,
as
I
say,
of
the
legislature,.
B
Thank
you
richard
president
ellis.
Just
on
notice,
we
may
need
a
special
meeting
well.
B
Thank
you,
everyone
for
contributing
to
the
conversation
on
that
next
resolution
by
miss
fahey
regarding
requesting
immediate
action
for
state
local
and
federal
officials
to
evaluate
chemical
gas.
Do
you
want
to
speak
to
that?
Miss
fahey.
O
Yes,
let's
say:
well,
you
know,
regardless
of
what
happens,
with
the
ordinance
that
bans
the
use
of
tear
gas.
I
just
all
that
I've
read
about
is
that
you
know
the
tear
gas
is
not
regulated.
You
know,
we
don't
know,
you
know
how
it's
manufactured
and
and
distributed
the
different
concentrations.
O
O
You
know
different
demographics
and
we
don't
know
much
about
the
long-term
health
effects,
and
I
think
this
resolution
is
asking
that
we
do
that
kind
of
review
and
evaluation,
because
you
know,
even
though,
regardless
of
what
we
do
with
this
by
banning
cs
gas,
it's
used
nationwide
and
municipalities
or
can
be
used,
and
this
resolution
also
asks
that
all
methods,
law
enforcement
use
whenever
there's
escalating
violence
should
be
looked
at
carefully.
B
What
it
is
thank
you
and
you'd
like
to
to
be
a
past
you'd
like
to
move
forward
with
this.
On
monday,
I'm
assuming.
O
Yes,
unless
anyone
has
any
other
thoughts
or
anything
they'd
like
to
add.
L
L
Yes,
I've
been
listening
to
the
conversation
from
the
public
and
you
know
from
the
emails
and
the
personal
calls
that
I
get,
and
one
of
the
most
frustrating
things
for
me
is
that
when
the
people
speak
in
unicef
and
clearly
you
know,
I
don't
think
that
we've
heard
one
person
come
up
here
and
speak
for
the
use
of
tear
gas,
and
I
don't
understand
why
we
have
to
do
studies
and-
and
you
know,
have
further
conversation
when
you
know
it's
our
job
to
to
react
to
the
people.
L
You
know
the
people
spoke
loud
and
clear
several
times
and
they're
gonna
keep
on
speaking
that
this
is
one
thing
that
if
you
go
all
across
albany,
even
in
neighborhoods
that
it
hasn't
been
used
in,
they
feel
strongly
about
it.
And
you
know,
I
think
that
you
know
we
have
a
election
coming
up.
We
want
people
to
get
involved.
B
B
Thank
you,
mr
johnson.
Mr
o'brien.
A
You're,
muted
yeah,
I'm
willing
to
close
cards
right.
I
don't
think
I
I
think
bringing
it
to
a
study
is
a
good.
L
A
It
doesn't
happen
necessarily
well,
and
the
other
issue
is,
I
know,
we've
had
kind
of
a
concerted
effort
of
people
bringing
a
message
to
us,
but
in
my
talking
individually
people
I
have
talked
to
a
lot
of
people
who
are
uncertain
about
it
and
don't
necessarily
support
a
complete
ban,
but
I
think
a
study
and
a
policy
review.
I
don't
see
any
harm
in
it.
I'm
willing
to
vote
for
for
this
resolution.
B
B
Well,
this
is
a
resolution,
it's
requesting
action,
for
you
know
state
and
federal
officials
to
do
something
we
don't
it's
not
like.
We
can
make
them
do
that
or
we
have
control
over
that
there's
a
I
mean
you're,
certainly
smarter
than
I
am
there.
There's
a
dif
there's
a
big
difference
between
this
and
and
banning
the
tear
gas.
But
why
don't
we
just
get
through
the
the
the
agenda
and
then,
if,
if
you
could
say
no,
you
could
vote.
B
No,
I
remember
is
comfortable
with
moving
forward
with
with
a
resolution
requesting
immediate
action.
If
members
don't
want
to
do
it,
then
then
we
we
won't,
but
I
I
really
don't
see
the
harm
in
it.
It's
requesting
a
a
you
know,
study
or
evaluation.
I
mean
that
there's
a
big
difference
between
that
and
banning
the
use
of
it.
A
R
I
really
gotta
get
this
computer
stuff
fixed.
I'm
sorry,
I
I
do
understand
the
differences
between
the
resolution
and
the
the
wall
seat.
I
think
the
optics
of
having
one
for
the
other
sends
the
wrong
message,
so
I
would
say:
let's
send
them
both
together
when
we're
at
that
point,
because
you
know
one
is
what
we're
looking
to
do
here
in
the
city
versus
the
other.
R
One
is
action
for
clear
guidance
on
on
the
national
level
and
if
you
look
and
you
read
what
different
cities
have
done,
all
the
different
cities
that
have
taken
on
this
issue
have
had
different
elements
to
it.
You
know
have
had
different
structures
to
it.
So
you
know
it's
a
difficult
issue
and
I
think
we
should
get
some
federal
guidance
on
it,
but
I
think
you
know,
in
the
sense
of
you
know,
fairness.
R
O
B
O
Kind
of
okay-
I'm
kelly-
I
mean
I'm
comfortable
holding
off
on
this
until.
B
Okay,
thank
you
good.
That
helps
a
lot
all
right,
so
that'll
be
an
intro
and
hold
yes,
that's
what
we'll
do
next,
we
have
an
emcee
by
mr
shea,
you
wanna
for
some
sanados.
U
Yes,
so
the
store
has
been
closed
through
the
pandemic,
because
the
cyanidas
are
a
little
older
like
my
age,
and
you
know
high
risk
and
it's
been
an
institution
in
the
neighborhood
for
over
40
years,
family-owned
business,
that
you
know
they
treat
customers
like
family.
U
You
know
well
established
they're,
part
of
the
neighborhood
family,
etc.
So
I
think
it's
appropriate
for
us
to
honor
them
and
and
recognize
their
retirement.
B
Thank
you.
Members
want
to
be
co-sponsors.
All
all
members
I
mean
they've
been
around
for
forever,
we'll
list
us
all
as
as
co-sponsors.
Please,
danielle
and
that'll
be
a
pass
next
mc
by
mr
flynn.
B
I
know
it
probably
got
sent
out
late.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
throw
it
up.
It's
relating
to
support
of
capital
holiday
lights.
B
That's
convenient
so
all
right,
so
it's
like
he'd
like
to
add
by
majority
consent
and
the
number
is
going
to
be
49
52
21.
Is
that
correct?
Mr
richardo.
B
For
a
resolution,
it's
just
a
short
resolution.
I
believe
it
got
sent
out
a
short
time
ago
expressing
support
for
capital
holiday
lights
in
the
park
and
then
continuing
to
be
there.
That's
going
to
be
a
referral
to
the
parks
committee,
because
we
need
to
have
a
further
discussion
on
that.
Considering
you
know
where
we're
at
the
mayor
made
some
recent
comments
about
them,
no
longer
being
in
the
park
and
being
familiar
with
pal.
I
know
they
they
try
to
get
over
in
the
park.
B
You
know
around
october
to
get
set
up.
So
if
it's
going
to
be
canceled
this
year,
it's
got
to
be
that
decision
has
got
to
be
made
now,
I'm
not
in
support
of
canceling,
but
we
need
to
have
the
discussion
and
we'll
do
it
in
in
the
parks,
parks
and
rec
committee.
Okay,.
K
So
that
will
be
this
just
you
know.
Obviously
it's
not
a
non-controversial
issue,
so
we
need
to
make
sure
that
people
have
an
opportunity
and
that
you
hear
some
of
the
concerns.
Yeah.
B
Thank
you,
mr
content.
Thank
you
for
putting
that
up,
mr
piccardo,
okay,
and
so
then,
next
on
to
resolution
hell,
we've
got
the
resolution
33
41
21r
and
34
41
21r
by
ms
farrell
and
finance.
B
K
So
kelly
on
resolutions
held
I'd
like
to
also
withdraw
item
four,
which
is
the
the
permit
parking
home
rule
from
last
year,
so
that
that
resolution
is
no
longer
isn't
kind
of
moot
now
and
will
be
replaced
by
the
new
one.
So
I'd
like
to
just
withdraw
that.
B
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
conti,
so
that's
it
for
the
for
the
the
agenda
before
scripting
or
getting
to
the
local
law
see
I
did.
B
I
would
just
like
to
mention
that
we
received
that
letter
regarding
the
albany
citizens
police
academy,
from
the
cprb
chair
regarding
the
the
comments
or
or
the
issues
that
she
referred
to
as
races
occurring,
we're
planning
and
scheduled
public
safety
meeting
for
the
27th
of
this
month
to
to
discuss
that
issue
and
that
curriculum
there
so
we'll
we'll
take
it
we'll
take
it
up
there.
B
I
have
reached
out
and
spoke
to
mr
vivez
edmund
as
well
as
commander
bachualo
from
apd
and
we'll
be
looking
to
get
some
of
those
folks
in
to
be
a
part
of
this
discussion.
B
C
No,
I
just
want
to
talk
about
local
law
at
sea.
I
understand
there
was
a
meeting
put
together.
I'm
one
of
the
I
don't
know
what
I'm
called.
I
think
it's
a
prime
co-sponsor
and
I
was
being
excluded
from
the
meeting,
and
I
saw
I
heard
other
members
of
the
council
who
weren't
even
on
this
legislation
and
from
you
know
I
belong
to
the
common
council
of
auburn,
not
the
common
council
of
david
gallagher,
who
seems
to
be
manipulating
how
this
council
works
and
I'm
really
very
angry
and
I'm
going.
C
To
be
honest,
I
was
looking
for
blood
yesterday
when
I
heard
this.
This
is
not
how
we
should
go
as
a
council,
we're
elected
officials,
we're
not
appointed
and
to
be
put
out
or
being
ignored.
You
know,
and
you
know
this
is
like
how
this
works
and
I'm
discussing
I'll
be
honest.
Over
the
years
I've
seen
it
I've
seen
manipulation
of
our
members
by
the
administration
and
the
staff
of
the
administration,
making
us
change
our
votes,
and
I
don't
know
what's
going
on.
C
B
Thank
you,
mr
hoey.
I've
been
trying
to
get
together
and
work
through
these
issues.
It's
not
something
make
it
about.
Mr
gallon,
you,
the
thing
is
remember:
we
have
quorum
issues,
they're
members
of
different
committees
of
the
of
the
council
that
can't
all
be
in
the
same
meeting
without
causing
the
issue
of
a
quorum
and
and
forcing
people
out.
So
the
folks
that
get
to
be
in
the
room.
When
the
discussions
are
it,
it
wasn't
intentional
to
leave
you
out.
B
As
a
matter
of
fact,
the
prime
prime
sponsor
mr
o'shea,
who
happens
to
be
on
vacation,
was
invited
to
the
meeting,
but
she
couldn't
take
part
because
she's
away,
so
it
wasn't
a
a
secret
meeting
and
it
wasn't
a
way
to
skirt.
You
know
responsibility
or
any
of
that
stuff.
It
again
when
we
do
stuff
like
this,
we
can't
all
be
there
or
remember.
The
each
committee
has
five
people
on
it.
So
three
people
constitute
a
quorum
and
we're
all
in
different
committees
so
that
that's
how
that
happened.
C
I've
gotten
the
phone
calls
from
david
okay,
so
I
know
it
happens.
I
know
I've
talked
to
other
members,
it's
just
you
know.
You
know,
maybe
that's
the
way
it's
supposed
to
be.
I
maybe
I'm
naive,
because
this
is
my
first
term,
but
you
know
I
always
thought
we
were
grassroots,
we're
what
the
people
on
the
grassroots
want
and
it
shouldn't
be
top
down
where
we're
being
told
how
to
what
the
people
want
it's
from
the
bottom
up,
and
you
know,
but
maybe
I'm
naive,
I
apologize
if
I
am
thank
you.
S
I
also
think
that
I
mean
I
think
the
real
discussion
should
and
it
was
always
planned
to
be
in
public
there's
a
lot
of
different
ideas
and-
and
I
think
kelly
was
interested
in
getting
some
of
those
ideas
together,
so
it
certainly,
I
did
not
get
any.
I
I
think
kelly
just
wants
to
move
this
forward
in
the
best
way
possible.
S
So
I
and
I
we
all
deeply
respect
utah,
so
there's
I
I
can
promise
you
that
there's
not,
and
I
I
as
a
council.
This
is
something
that
we
all
have
to
weigh
in
on
and
it
should
be
done
in
public
and
it
should
be
discussed
in
public,
but
we
also
there's
efficiencies
and
there
was
a
lot
of
different
pieces,
so
that
was
a
way
to
kind
of
bring
the
pieces
together.
I
don't
think
there
was
any
expectation
that
that's
like.
S
B
B
B
N
B
B
Yeah:
well
yes,
yeah,
okay,
so
yeah!
So
with
that
being
said,
we
came
up
with
some
changes.
The
members
get
a
chance
to
review
the
changes.
O
B
Any
any
any
thoughts
and
again
if
members.
B
S
Wait
we
did
so
one
of
the
concerns
that
was
brought
up.
That
I
personally
think
is
valid
is
having
was
having
the
chief
here.
It
is
important
to
get
information
from
the
police,
which
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
asked
mr
gallon
to
be
here.
S
Although
I
have
to
say
I
love
the
the
common
council
of
david
gallon.
I
think
that's
hilarious,
but
I
he
said
that
he
would
be
able
to
kind
of
do
it
be
a
conduit
of
any
questions
we
might
have
and
see
if
you
can
get
them
answered
by.
S
So
there
are
police
staff
that
are
ready
and
willing
to
answer
questions
and,
if
there's
an
interest,
I
believe
that
we
can
have
them
actually
come
into
the
meeting,
but
I
I
think
I
at
least
thought
it
was
a
valid
point
to
you
know:
there's
a
lot
of
different
sides
to
this,
and
and
perhaps
coming
council
members
talking
and
utilizing
police's
information,
but
more
as
an
informational
piece.
U
U
U
U
U
Raised
concerns
about,
although
I
think
a
lot
of
us
were
concerned
about
so
much
as
the
public
was
raising
concerns
about
it
and
we've
had
meetings
about
it.
U
We
had
more
meetings
and
I
thought
it
was
pretty
obvious
that
we
should
be
having
a
ban
on
tear
gas
based
upon
that,
but
I
waited
for
the
results
of
the
police
reform
collaborative
and
it
didn't
surprise
me
that
the
recommendation
to
ban
it
appears
in
two
different
places.
I
understand
that
people
are
talking
about
the
fact
that
one
of
those
groups
of
people
that
was
responsible
for
talking
about
community
relations
was
not
supposed
to
address
this
issue.
U
U
As
for
anybody,
I
really
hope
people
were
able
to
watch
helen
gunn's
interview,
dorsey
clear's
interview
with
ellen
dunn
city
council
member
from
from
philadelphia.
But
she
says
our
neighborhoods
are
not
war
zones,
they
shouldn't
be
treated
like
war
zones
and
our
residents.
Our
citizens
should
not
be
treated
like
combatants.
U
The
fact
is
that
two
of
the
criteria
that
are
in
this
legislation
for
the
use
of
tear
gas,
the
use
of
an
emt
and
giving
notice
to
people
are
policies
that
currently
exist
within
the
department
policies
that
the
police
department
did
not
follow
last
year
when
they
used
tear
gas.
So
that's
two
of
the
four
that
we're
talking
about.
U
U
We
were
all
here
when
he
came
in
and
he
defended
the
actions
of
police
officer
grabbing
a
microphone,
a
megaphone
out
of
somebody's
hands.
Somebody
fall
into
the
ground,
justifying
you
know
all
that
action
and
referring
to
it
as
a
riot.
U
U
So
that's
the
only
thing
that
is
kind
of
like
a
little
new
in
the
criteria
aside
from
the
ones
that
the
police
have
already
ignored,
that
exists
and
the
use
of
the
term
riot
easily
to
describe
any
gathering
that
makes
the
police
feel
uncomfortable
and
would
justify
the
use
of
tear
gas
so
to
secure.
The
safety
of
people
in
the
immediate
vicinity
is
void
for
vagueness.
U
U
Are
we
protecting
people
against
tripping
and
falling?
Are
we
protecting
them
against
potential
fatal
injuries?
What
is
meant
by
this?
It
provides
nothing
in
the
way
of
assurances.
The
reason
why
I
think
a
complete
ban
is
appropriate
is
because
I'm
listening
to
the
conversations
and
realizing
that
the
police
have
ignored
our
existing
criteria.
U
I'm
sorry
somebody's
tranquil.
I
ignored
the
existing
criteria.
They'll
ignore
other
criteria,
the
protection
against
first
amendment
rights.
U
I
don't
know
what
that
adds
if
it's
a
riot
but
somebody's
exerting
their
first
amendment
rights.
Well,
that
trumps
all
so,
you
can
use
tear
gas
the
the
protecting
using
it
in
residential
areas.
Again,
when.
U
U
I
want
to
note
that
one
of
the
things
that
mr
kimbrough
has
said
to
me
is
that,
while
he
agreed
with
the
initial
use
of
tear
gas,
he
had
a
problem
with
its
continued
use,
with
people
going
into
alleys,
etc,
and
when
I
had-
and
this
was
the
first
time
I
knew
that
he
like
two
months
ago
that
he
was
working
on
changes.
You
know
potential
amendments
and
I
said
how
are
you
going
to
deal
with
that?
U
U
One
of
the
things
that
helen
gunn
has
said
is
that
when,
when
people
are
in
stress
full
situations-
and
I
can
completely
understand
this-
you
use
bad
judgment-
you
use
bad
judgment,
so
we
have
the
you
know
the
mayor
in
a
stressful
situation,
equating
what
happened
at
south
street
to
you
know
a
riot
going
on
an
insurrection
at
the
capitol.
U
U
U
When
maybe
restraint
should
be
used,
I
do
want
to
bring
people's
attention
to
the
naacp
comments.
They
are
eloquent
comments.
They
are
concise.
They
are
talking
about
the
lack
of
trust.
U
The
the
the
events
of
the
past
year
create
a
situation
of
deteriorating
trust
in
our
police
force.
Against
the
backdrop
of
these
past
events,
such
as
those
related
to
the
death
of
dante,
ivy
and
the
shooting
of
elizar
williams,
the
use
of
tear
gas
and
recent
treatment
of
protesters
on
arch
street
trust
and
the
capacity
of
apd
to
responsibly
interact
with
black
and
brown
residents
of
albany
has
moved
towards
a
total
collapse.
U
U
The
plan
calls
for
numerous
other
actions
regarding
policing
in
albany.
Many
of
them
need
to
be
carried
out
by
the
apd.
It
is
with
significant
alarm
that
we
see
the
apd
choosing
to
object
to
this
provision.
It
portends
the
apd
in
future
situations
ignoring
the
plan
requirements,
and
this
should
this
be
the
case.
There
is
no
mandate
to
the
plan
and
there
is
little
reform
the
public
can
rely
on.
The
apd
should
not
be
able
to
unilaterally
make
such
choices.
U
I
thought
that
was
a
great
question
to
be
asked
and-
and
she
said
essentially
that
when
they
passed
this
when
they
listened
to
residents
and
they
passed
it,
the
ban,
it
began
to
build
a
bridge
towards
rebuilding
that
public
trust
and
allowing
them
to
move
towards
a
bigger
view
of
justice.
U
If
they
didn't
do
it,
she
said
it
would
have
caused
further
breach
of
the
public
trust,
and
that's
why
I
think
we
should
be
acting
on
this
on
monday,
and
we
should
be
passing
this
on
monday.
I
think
I
think,
having
passed
this
as
part
of
the
plan,
having
had
the
mayor,
not
pull
it
out
and
massage
before
she
put
forward
a
plan,
saying
we're
going
to
enact
these
reforms,
as
is
I
I
I
think
we
owe
it
to
the
public.
U
B
Yeah,
and
just
before
I
open
up,
I
mean
folks
have
heard
what
I
think
and
you
think
that
I'd
like
to
hear
from
more
folks,
but
I
just
have
a
question
just
so.
What
are
your
thoughts
on
the
philadelphia
legislation
you
mentioned,
dorsey's
podcast,
or
what
have
you
dude?
I'm
asking
you.
U
So
I
have
looked
at
that
legislation.
U
U
B
Okay,
jenny.
S
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
walk
people
through
some
of
the
conversations
that
were
had
with
the
legislation
that
was
sent
out
and
what
I
would
say
is
these
are
conversations
I
I
appreciate
judy
leaching
the
charge
on
this
and
I
I
I
know
that
kelly
and
david
really
wanted
her
there.
S
Fortunately,
judy
is
working
really
hard
on
the
usdo,
so
we
appreciate
her
being
there,
but
so
we
actually
began
with
the
philly
legislation
to
be
clear.
Philly
did
not
ban
tear
gas.
If
I
jr
just
sent
philly's
legislation
out,
we
began
with
that
and
and
we
had
a
conversation
to
say
I
mean
we
could
actually
just
pass
that
philly
is
saying
that
they
can't
ban
tear
gas.
We
could
do
the
same
thing
and
say
hey
we.
We
did
the
same
thing
as
philly.
S
We
also
banned
tear
gas,
but
it
doesn't
actually
ban
tear
gas.
So
we
actually
started
with
a
philly
piece
and
went
further
than
that.
So
because
the
thing
is,
it
shouldn't
be
a
surprising
situation
where
everybody
thinks
you
have
a
tear
gas
ban,
but
then
suddenly,
you're
in
this
situation
and
tear
gas
is
used
and
everybody's
wondering
why
you're
using
tear
gas
because
they
thought
it
was
banned.
S
So
we
led
with
their
piece.
That
is
the
kind
of
the
teeth
of
it.
So
in
your
email,
jr
sent
out
to
everyone
that-
and
I
just
everyone
will
no.
I
printed
it
out
and
I
have
all
these
piles
of
paper.
That
is
not
helpful,
but
the
the
same
very
similar,
langu
language.
It
says
the
department
so
you'll
see
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
S
And
that
was
one
of
the
pieces
that
was
a
pretty
important
piece
to
say
that
absolutely
not
if
somebody's
engaging
in
first
amendment
rights.
That
should
not
happen.
S
We
also
talked
about
some
of
the
pieces
that
were
not
okay,
specifically
in
that
differentiation
between
that
first
and
second
night,
so
is
it
may
29th
and
30
people
are
better
with
the
dates
than
I
am
that
I
think
everybody
knows
exactly
what
I
mean
where
it
that
second
night
was
wrong,
and,
and
we
need
to
legislate
that,
I
think
that
there
is
absolutely
no
doubt
in
that
it
was
horrifying
and
so
discussing
making
sure
that
you
do
not
go
through
a
neighborhood.
S
However,
I
will
say:
council
member
love,
brought
up
some
valid
points.
If
there
is
a
safety
issue,
I
think
many
council
members
or
neighborhoods
would
prefer.
If
you
are
concerned
about
your
actual
safety
that
something's
going
to
happen
to
you
in
your
house,
there
might
be
a
situation
where
it
tear
gas
is
preferable,
but
it
should
be
a
life
and
death
situation.
S
Tear
gas
does
not
belong
going
through
neighborhoods.
We
also
I
look
and
a
lot
of
what
I
deal
with
in
day
to
day
is
sometimes
we're
in
situations
where
things
are
an
opportunity.
S
Precedents
are
really
important
things
to
set
because
and
to
be
careful
of
not
setting,
and
I
I
I
do
think
that
having
a
process
that
we're
able
to
set
up
where
there's
actually
some
sort
of
immediate
evaluation
of
of
a
police
action
is
a
very
strong,
important
precedence.
And
I
don't
think,
there's
anything
like
that
in
the
united
states,
and
I
think
it's
way
stronger
than
anything
that
philly
has
on
the
books.
S
So
I
I
so
having
if
there
is
tear
gas
used,
that
there
is
a
report
within
five
business
days
that
is
given
to
the
public
safety
committee,
which
is
charged
with
meeting
and
reviewing
this
report,
the
chief
of
police
and
whoever,
so
the
chief
and
the
deputy
chiefs
are
given
the
ability
to
make
the
decision.
So
if
the
chief
is
not
the
decision
maker,
then
that
deputy
chief
would
go
with
them
to
be
interviewed
in
a
public
meeting.
S
I
I
think
that
it's
one
of
the
things
that
is
just
an
important
piece
to
talk
about
when
we
talk
about
precedent,
because
I
longer
term,
I
think
that
we
need
to
start
talking
about
this
kind
of
thing
when
it
comes
to
policing
more
often
that
there
needs
to
be
some
sort
of
evaluation
of
police
activities.
S
S
L
Speak
I
mean
I
just
I
just
would
have
liked
to
make
a
comment
to
councilwoman
farrell's.
The
public
doesn't
have
trust
in
the
police
apd
being
able
to
have
that
authority.
I
think
that
they've
already
shown
that
you
know
they
abused
that
authority
in
the
past
and
to
say
that
you
know
they're
gonna
have
to
report
in
five
days,
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
situations
that
already
exist
that
they
don't
do.
L
You
know
it
doesn't
happen,
the
way
that
it's
written
up
or
is
expected
to
so
you
know
to
continue
this
conversation
and
say
what
we're
gonna
put
it
right
back
in
their
hands
is
definitely
not
what
the
community
is
looking
for.
So.
S
S
It's
something
that
was
discussed
and
I
I
think
you've
brought
up
different
ideas.
This
is
the
opportunity
for
it,
but
that
this
thing
that
was
sent
out
that
doesn't,
that
was
a
coalition
of
a
lot
of
all
of
the
different
ideas
that
were
thrown
around
doesn't
have
to
happen.
We
can,
we
can
do
anything
we
want,
and
I
think
you
bring
up.
You
brought
you've
talked
about
this
a
lot.
I
think
it's
a
really
valid
point.
L
I
think
that
we
should
our
expectation
from
our
police
officers
are.
It
should
be
a
professional
conduct.
It'll
be
de-escalation
to
be.
You
know,
making
true
relationships
that
when
the
the
height
like
that,
when
we're
intense
situations,
those
relationships
kick
in,
but
if
you
just
have
a
police
department
that
you
know
walks
around
and
with
army
fatigues
on,
you
know
a
lot
of
times
and
scenarios
in
certain
neighborhoods
you're,
never
gonna
foster
those
type
of
relationships.
L
So
I
just
hear
a
lot
of
relying
off
of
you
know
using
tools
and
and
not
relying
off
of
relationships.
You
know,
albany
is
a
historically
relationship-rich
town
and
you
know
I
think
that
once
we
start
doing
things
and
and
sending
clearer
messages
to
the
people,
you
will
see
these
relationships
once
again
start
playing
factoring
in
in
these
tense
situations.
So
thank
you.
A
Yeah,
you
know
one
of
the
questions
which
I
have
regarding
the
albany
police
department.
Not
too
many
years
ago,
we
got
awards
for
having
a
strong
community
policing
police
department
under
kralkov
and
brendan
cox,
and
then
it
just
seemed
to
suddenly
fall
apart.
I
mean
we
now
were
what
85
officers
short
and
community
policing
has
been
drawn
down
from
what
38
positions
to
about
14..
A
So
I
guess
when
people
refer
to
the
yeah,
I
mean,
obviously
they
fell
short
back
last
last
summer.
They
they
did
things
they
shouldn't
have
done,
but
do
we,
I
don't
know
kind
of
like
basically
react
as
to
how
we're
going
to
handle
our
police
department
based
on
what
they
did
in
in
2020,
rather
than
what
they
used
to
be
and
shouldn't.
We
really
be
looking
at.
L
Yes,
I
just
would
say
one
of
the
a
good
starting
point
is
just
to
follow
the
chess
cams
when
the
chess
cams
came
a
lot
of
people
left
after
it
was
mandatory.
That
officers
had
the
worm.
If
you
look
at
it,
I
think
that
it's
a
strong
connection.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
mr
hoey,
and
then
the
sparrow.
C
Sir,
you
know
kelly.
I
just
want
to
comment.
Peter
has
kind
of
subsided,
but
the
people
that
you
mentioned
were
at
that
meeting.
I
don't
know
there
was
any
pro-banning.
C
A
lot
of
people
had
spoken
out
against
him
so
a
little
bit
now,
if
I
was
at
that
meeting
one
of
the
suggestions,
instead
of
having
the
chief,
give
a
report-
or
I
would
have
said
why
doesn't
the
mayor
the
mayor,
be
the
one
to
make
that
call
to
release
the
tear
gas
or
not
the
buck
has
to
stop
somewhere,
as
truman
said,
the
buck
stops
at
his
desk.
C
So
you
know
if
they're
pushing
that
they
want
to
keep
tear
gas.
Why
aren't
we
saying
okay,
the
responsibility,
then,
if
that
tear
gas
is
released?
It's
yours,
mr
mayor,
you
know
it
to
me.
It
makes
sense
having
it
beneath
you
that
well
it
could
be
the
deputy
commander
or
it
could
be
this
one
or
that
one.
C
You
know
you're
kind
of
pushing
off
the
responsibility,
and
this
is
a
serious
thing
in
this
community
and
I've
seen
that
the
responses
from
people
I've
heard
them
at
the
meetings
and
that's
what
I
try
to
bring
out.
Can
you
look
at
the
number
of
people
speaking
for
the
band
and
those
against
it,
and
you
know
the
bottom
line
is
the
public
record?
I've
heard
that
well,
people
are
afraid
to
speak
up.
Well,
there
is,
you
know
I
could
say,
there's
a
silent
majority,
that's
saying
we
really
need
abandon
we're
afraid
to
speak
up.
C
I
mean
the
reality
is
we're
here
right
now
as
a
council
and
talking
about
what
we're
going
to
do
on
monday
night,
and
you
know
I
have
my
name
as
a
co-sponsor
on
that
bill
and
I
don't
know,
I
don't
think
it's
possible
for
me
to
get
my
name
off
if
it's
changed.
I
was
happy
the
way
it
came
out
of
committee.
You
know
I
want
to
bring
up
one
more
point
that
I
hadn't
in
the
past.
Actually
I
got
two
points.
I
would
bring
up
the
first
one
kelly.
C
We
were
there
on
june
1st
me
and
you
they
knocked
well.
We
and
I
wasn't
there
the
day,
the
the
30th,
which
was
two
days
previous
as
soon
as
they
hit
that
tear
gas
people
dispersed-
and
I
think
in
this
case
on
the
first,
we
were
lucky
because
they
didn't
reband
and
go
berserk
like
they
did
on
the
30th
on
the
30th.
C
You
had
roving
bands
of
people
who
were
ticked
off,
they'd
gotten
gassed,
and
you
know
they
were
angry
to
begin
with
and
we
dispersed
them
and
they
went
up
as
far
as
cross
gates,
breaking
windows
breaking
into
stores
on
central
avenue.
We
didn't
keep
them
one
spot.
We
threw
tear
gas.
So
my
question
is
to
all
of
you.
I
don't
want
an
answer
here,
but
think
about
it.
How
did
that
help
the
situation
it
protected?
C
You
know
the
station,
but
look
at
the
damage
that
it
did
to
the
neighborhood
and
not
only
the
city
of
albany's
neighborhood,
the
colonies
neighborhood
also,
and
the
second
thing
I
wanted
to
keep
my
mouth
shut,
but
sometimes
you
just
can't
there's
a
member
on
this
council
whose
child
and
I
want
to
say
child.
But
you
know
teenager
was
there
on
june
1st
and
was
gassed,
and
I
don't
know
if
the
member
of
the
council
realizes
that
that
their
child
who
we
want
to
protect,
we
talked
about
it
with
the
school
board
that
we're
here.
C
You
know,
if
I
found
out
my
son
max,
got
gassed,
I'd,
be
pissed,
I'd
be
pissed
that
he
was
there,
but
well.
It
was
a
good
reason
and
it
was
a
you
know.
It
was
a
protest
and
you're
allowed
to
protest,
that's
one
thing,
but
to
get
gassed
and
to
be
crying
on
the
street.
C
You
know
this
we're
talking
about
our
children.
For
for
the
members
of
the
council,
who
have
children
or
who
will
have
children,
I
mean
we
got
to
think
about
what's
going
on,
but
I
just
want
to
go
back.
I
think
the
responsibility
lays
at
the
top
with
the
mayor's
office,
and
you
know
if
they
want
to
release
gas.
That
should
be
the
responsibility
that
you're
the
person
looking
for.
Thank.
C
S
Oh
no,
no,
I
had
it
up
again,
I
wouldn't
mind
having
marin
as
the
decision
maker.
I
also
I
I
mean
I
think
that
we
could
just
use
phil.
If,
if
I
mean
judy
was
talking
a
lot
about
the
benefits
of
the
philly
legislation,
we
could
move
forward
with
that.
S
S
U
O
Kelly,
I
just
wanted
to
respond
to
some
of
derek's
comments.
Derek
you
know.
I
agree
with
you
completely
that
those
relationships
you
establish
between
the
police
and
the
public
are
so
incredibly
important,
and
mike
said
this
too,
you
know
for
many
years.
There's
a
lot
of
us
who
have
worked
really
hard
to
you
know
have
a
very
strong
community
policing
program,
and
I
understand
what
you're
saying
is
that
that
didn't
necessarily
happen
in
all
neighborhoods
and
it's
just
for
someone
who's
felt
so
strongly
about
it
over
these
years.
O
It
is,
it
is
frustrating
really
frustrating
that
you
know
our
community
policing
has.
Actually
you
know
it
seems
like
it's
going
downhill
with.
We
don't
have.
O
We
don't
have
the
same
numbers,
but
but
I
totally
agree
with
you:
it's
those
relationships
that
are
critical
and
you
know
if
if
our
community
policing
had
been
allowed
to
continue
and
grow
and
so
on
and
so
forth
that
we've
worked
so
hard
on,
you
know
we
might
have
been
able
to
rely
on
those
relationships
in
in
both
those
situations
where
tear
gas
was
used
so
that
you
de-escalate-
and
you
know
that
didn't
happen.
O
O
O
So
I
think
I
do
think
that,
regardless
of
what
we
do
here
with
tear
gas,
we've
got
to
get
back
to
that
building
relationships,
because
it
is
so
very
critical
and
you
know
I'm
just
gonna
put
it
out
there.
O
This
is
a
really
really
tough
issue
for
me
personally,
and
I
I
I
I'm
pretty
torn
about
it
because
I
you
know
I'm
in
favor
of
demilitarizing
the
police
absolutely,
but
I
am
concerned
about
you
know
really
bad
situations
where
people,
for
whatever
reason
not
not
talking
about
the
peaceful
protesters,
I'm
talking
about
people
who
are
you
know,
become
out
of
control
and
put
others
lives
at
risk.
So
I
I'm
torn
about
this.
Oh
thank
you.
K
So
I
find
this
all
very
frustrating
and
I
don't
know
a
difficult
discussion.
K
Probably
you
know
one
of
the
most
in
my
20
some
odd
years
on
this
council
and
we've
had
a
lot
and
it's
not
the
first
time
we've
dealt
with
police
community
relations
during
my
time
on
the
council
and
and
then
to
piggyback
on
some
of
council
member
fahey's
remarks.
I
think
you
know
one
of
the
frustrations
also
does
go
back
to
the
whole
movement
that
I
thought
at
one
point.
K
We
were
really
making
good
progress
in
terms
of
community
policing
and
building
community
relations,
and
I
really
credit
chief
krokov
for
beginning
that
process
and
chief
cox
for
continuing
it
and
chief
cyrus
for
attempting
to
continue
to-
and
I
think
she
serious
had
some
particular
challenges
when
he
was
in
charge
and
it
does
seem
like
we've,
we've
lost
that
or
not
lost
it,
but
we
we
have
some
setbacks
here
and
I
think
part
of
it
does
relate
to
this,
for
whatever
reason,
significant
shortfall
and
staffing,
which
makes
it
really
difficult.
K
I
think,
in
part
to
put
in
place
proactive
policies
that
build
relationships
and
look
at
creativity
in
terms
of
how
do
we
deal
with
the
community
and
how
do
we
deal
with
problems
in
a
in
a
more
sensitive
way,
as
opposed
to
a
more
a
you
know,
a
police
response
on
some
of
these
issues,
which
we
talked
about
so
then
going
back
to
the
collaborative
and
the
governor's
executive
order
that
was
meant
to
give
localities
the
option,
the
opportunity,
the
responsibility
to
develop
plans
and
look
at
these
issues
in
a
holistic
approach,
rather
than
you
know,
picking
issues
or
different
issues
and
not
seeing
how
those
different
pieces
you
know
fit
into
the
larger
puzzle
as
far
as
police
reform
or
reinvention
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it,
and
so
that
was
supposed
to
be
the
collaborative,
and
we
can
you
know
in
terms
of
the
collab
collaborative
initiative
that
we
had
and
the
report
that
they
submitted
to
us.
K
We
can
complain
about.
You
know
the
you
know
some
of
the
shortfalls
or
the
format
or
does
it
tie
into
you,
know
a
vision
or
narrative,
etc,
etc,
but
can't
dismiss
that
it
is
a
comprehensive
set
of
recommendations
and
strategies
that
need
to
look
be
looked
at
in
a
holistic
way,
and
I
will
note
that
the
administration
has
put
out
an
rfp
to
begin
to
implement
portions
of
that
collaborative
report
that
deal
with.
You
know
the
the
the
standing
orders
and
operating
procedures,
etc.
K
So
there's
real
movement
now
in
terms
of
moving
forward
on
that,
so
we
are
doing
things
as
far
as
trying
to
make
some
reforms
reinvention
doing
the
things
we
need
to
do
not
to
discount
some
of
the
earlier
moves
the
council
took-
and
you
know,
we've
been
talking
about
the
recommendation
on
tear
gas
out
of
the
collaborative,
and
so
there
were
we'll
say
there
are
two
recommendations.
K
The
one
recommendation
that
came
from
the
committee
that
was
actually
charged
with
looking
at
this
was
to
was
to
place
restrictions
on
the
use,
including
the
use
in
neighborhoods
and
residential
areas,
and
to
put
in
place
a
policy.
I
don't
have
it
in
front
of
me,
a
policy
that
also
looks
at
de-escalation
and
things
of
that
nature.
K
The
other
one
that
came
from
the
other
committee
was
to
set
as
a
goal
set
as
a
goal.
The
elimination
of
tear
gas
so
they're
not
contradictory
in
a
sense
placing
restrictions
with
and
trying
then
to
move
toward
that
goal
know
can
be
a
a
complimentary
path
moving
forward.
K
K
So
you
know
from
that
perspective,
I
think
it
would
be
consistent
with
the
collaborative
report
as
far
as
this,
and
you
know,
moving
forward
is
to
look
at
how
can
we
begin
to
place
in
the
restrictions
and
the
the
policy
and
the
guard
rails
around
the
use?
That
provides
some
of
the
safeguards
that
we
need,
and
I
think
that
what
this
draft
attempts
to
do
is
that
and
then,
as
we
do,
that
to
you
know,
begin
to
move
continue
to
move
forward.
K
Look
at
how
do
we
look
at
issues
in
terms
of
if
we
want
to
say
banning
or
demilitarization
continue
that
discussion
on
a
longer
term
basis
to
get
to
where
we
want
to
get,
but
there
is
a
short-term
goal
to
get
to
a
certain
point
and
the
longer
term
goal.
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
some
of
that.
No
one
supports
the
use
of
tear
gas.
No
one
is
advocating
the
use
of
tear
gas
and
everyone
there's
consensus
to
move
forward
on
on
on
either
it's
elimination
or
restrictions.
K
But
again
I
don't,
I
don't
think,
there's
an
inconsistency
in
moving
forward
on
placing
guard
rails
and
restrictions
and
accountability
standards
on
the
use
and
limiting
the
circumstances
where
it
might
happen
and
still
continuing
to
try
to
move
forward
on.
The
ultimate
goal
of
you
know
want
to
call
ban
or
demilitarization
or
issues
like
that.
So,
as
I
say,
I'm
struggling
with
this
issue,
it
would
be
very
easy
to
say
ben.
K
I
think
we
need
to
really
there's
a
lot
of
factors
that
need
to
be
thrown
in
and
it's
it's
not
and.
K
We
are,
we
have
a
added
responsibility
to
you
know,
as
elected
officials.
Part
of
our
responsibility
is
to
to
think
through
these
issues
in
a
way
that
that
are
workable,
that
are
sensitive
and
takes
into
account
a
lot
of
the
the
issues
that
we've
been
dealing
with.
So
I
you
know,
my
remarks
are
all
over
because
my
head's
all
over
so
I
mean,
but
those
are
my
thoughts
in
terms
of
you
know
where
I'm
on
this
issue
right
now,.
B
Thank
you,
mr
conte.
Mr
ballerin.
R
Okay,
I
think
I
got
it
right
this
time.
Everybody
hear
me
yeah.
This
is
a
tough
issue.
I
think
we'll
have
that
conversation.
I
think
it's
good
that
we're
having
this
conversation-
and
you
know
it's-
it's
not
an
easy
issue
at
all
one.
I
do
think
we
should
go
beyond
what
philly
did.
I
don't
think
we
should
just
say
that
you
know
we're
banning
tear
gas
and
pat
ourselves
in
the
back,
but
in
reality
you
know,
that's
not
the
case.
I
think
you
know.
That's
not.
You
know
the
route
we
should
take.
R
I
think
we
should
take
the
route,
that's
very
specific,
vape
direct.
You
know
that
does
not
have
too
much
ambiguality.
You
know
I.
R
I
also
think
we
have
to
be
very
cautious
with
the
word
riot
because
it's
it's
a
word
that
sparks
a
lot
of
emotions,
and
it's
a
word
that
you
know
who
is
saying
that
versus
you
know
the
actions
and
the
situation
of
the
on
the
ground-
and
I
think
sometimes
even
you
know
using
that
word-
can
minimize
some
effects
that
may
have
happened
before
you
know.
I
think
you
know
I've.
I've
been
very
open
about
this.
I
was
there
that
saturday
night
on
may
30th,
you
know
I.
R
I
saw
the
very
difficult
situation
that
people
were
under.
I
I
I
saw
you
know
right
right
in
front
of
me,
the
tractor
trailer
being
hijacked
you
know.
So
you
know
it
was
a
very
different
scenario
than
what
happened
that
monday
and
it
was
very
different
people.
R
I
think
that's
really
a
critical
point
of
who
was
there
that
monday
versus
who
was
there
that
saturday,
because
that
monday,
you
had
a
lot
more
people
from
the
neighborhoods
a
lot
more
from
our
communities,
students
that
I
have
worked
with
in
the
past
students
that
I
was
proud
that
were
there
you
know
tom.
You
know,
I
know
you
said
you'd
be
mad
at
some,
but
I
bet
you
wouldn't
just
like
you
were
there
and
you
know
you
know,
I
don't
think
you'd
be
upset
that
he
was
there.
He
was
at
any
protest.
R
R
R
I
think
that
could
have
been
prevented
and
I
I
know
the
fireworks
were
thrown
at
the
police.
I
was
there,
I
I
I
the
worst
part
about
that
is
the
individual
who
threw
the
fireworks
sped
up
on
a
dirt
bike
up
up
the
road
and
he
didn't
deal
with
the
consequences
or
he
or
she
didn't
deal
with
the
consequences
of
their
actions.
R
We
had
to
breed
that
gas.
We
had
to
see
our
neighborhoods
get,
you
know
get
hit,
so
I
I
think
we
have
to
have
this
difficult
conversation.
I
think
we
can't
be
afraid
of
it.
I
think
you
know
I'm
glad
we're
finally
having
it
and
I
know,
we've
been
having
it.
I
know,
we've
been
having
it.
I
know.
We've
been
having
informally
as
well.
You
know
I've
spoken
to
other
council
members,
and
I
know
this
is
a
tough
tough
issue.
You
know
my
recommendation
would
be
to
remove
the
word
riot.
R
You
know
from
any
kind
of
document
where
this
is
and
have
very
specific,
very,
very
specific
definitions,
and
I
think
we
need
to
have
that
conversation.
You
know
about
what
what
it
is,
because
I
I
you
know
I
looked
at
what
san
francisco
san
francisco
has
got
an
exception.
If
you
know
individuals
are
attacking
officers
or
other
individuals.
R
Berkeley
said
if
there
was
an
immediate
threat,
so
I
think
we
should,
you
know,
make
it
stronger
than
what
others
have
done,
but
also.
R
R
If
this
is
going
to
be
used,
it
needs
to
be
used
to
save
lives,
to
prevent
harm
and
that
to
move
people
along,
but
I
look
forward
to
the
conversation
and
I'm
willing
to
stay
as
long
as
the
has
us.
You
know
in
in
trying
to
have
this
competition
about
this
issue.
N
Maybe
we'll
just
go
around
the
table
once
and
say
what
would
people
say
that
they
would
do?
Okay
if
there
were
whatever
word
you
want
to
give
it
some
incendiary
gathering
or
whatever?
How
would
you?
How
would
you
try
to
end
it?
It's
not
tear
gas.
Do
you
want
them
to
go
in
with
the
the
batons
and
this
and
that
or
it
might
maybe
end
up
a
lethal
weapon?
You
know
I
remember
a
few
years
ago
the
mayor
stayed
at
a
city
in
city
hall
and
we're
all
sitting
down.
N
First
time
we
had
it
in
rotunda
and
little
did.
We
know
that
protesters
okay
were
hanging
out
all
day
in
the
bathrooms
and
everything
else,
all
of
a
sudden
drop
down
signs
and
everything
came
in
to
shut
down
everything.
The
mayor
was
very
cool
about
it.
She
stopped
and
then
this
went
on
back
and
forth
and
they
gave
her
a
little
quiet
started
up
again,
but
then
you
know
what
they
did
and
I
thought
it
was
going
to
get
bad.
N
They
started
walking
in
between
our
chairs
on
my
feet
and
everything,
and
you
know
what
that
day.
I
said
this
could
have
went
bad.
You
know
what
the
cops
did,
that
they
stood
the
ground.
They
just
sat
there
when
I
stood
around
and
let
them
do
their
thing
and
it
wore
out.
But
you
know
there
were
there
were
some
years
ago.
Things
are
different
in
the
country
right
now
and
there's
a
lot
of
frustration
on
everybody's
side.
I
know
the
cops
are
very
frustrated.
Okay,
we've
seen
down
so
many
cops.
N
Okay,
they're
working
18
hour
days,
18
hours
a
day,
going
going
home,
trying
to
see
their
kids
there's
a
lot
on
both
sides
of
this
thing,
but
something
we
have
to
have
some
alternative.
That's
what
I
want!
Okay,
I
don't
know.
I
just
got
some
things
late
today
from
jr
massachusetts
has
some
it's
a
little
bit
different,
there's
different
cities.
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
read
them,
maybe
they're
all
different,
but
we
have
to
know
what
we're
going
to
do
when
something
happens.
N
If
something
happens,
I
want
to
be
protected.
I
want
to
protect
the
people
there.
You
know
you
just
watch
the
news
I
look
at
what's
going
on
in
in
jerusalem,
okay,
and
that
man
throwing
tear
gas
like
there's,
firecrackers
and
there's
there's
two
sides:
really
I
mean
they're
they're
at
war.
You
know
they
don't
declare
whatever,
and
I
told
you
before
I
lived
in
northern
ireland.
I
was
there
for
bloody
sunday.
I
had
roommates
that
were
hurt
up
there.
Okay,
and
in
that
instance,
there
were
the
protestants
and
the
catholics.
N
N
They
were
here
and
there
and
they
said
if
that
tear
gas,
if
it
was
used
right
and
maybe
not
not
so
much,
it
would
have
given
space
in
between
the
crowds.
Maybe
calm
things
down
did
it.
I
mean
it
kept
some
people
from
getting
hurt
bad.
I
think
you
know
and
there's
a
lot
of
people
out
there
in
today's
world
that
just
have
hate
hate
hate.
I
see
more
of
it.
N
B
N
B
No,
no
miss.
I
got
you,
mr
thank
you.
Thank
you.
The
do
nothing
or
lethal
force.
The
lethal
force
argument
comes
after
there's,
some
kind
of
interaction
where
the
police
try
to
correct
a
behavior.
That's
going
on
and
a
fight
ensues
or
there's
an
issue.
It's
not
do
nothing
or
lethal
force,
there's
something
in
between
there's
an
interaction,
but
with
that
I'll
stop
talking
over
mr
o'shea,
you
know
mr
gallin
and
we'll
thank
you.
U
So
I
will
get
to
the
comment
why
I
raised
my
hand
in
just
a
second,
but
I
do
want
to
say
that
my
position
is.
We
should
be
having
conversations
now
well
in
advance
of
the
next
protest
in
the
community,
with
people
who
are
protesting,
understanding
that
they
have
every
reason
to
be
protesting,
and
let's
figure
this
out.
So
we
don't
get
to
the
point
where
things
are
erupting
like
this
and
we
are
in
a
cycle
at
this
point.
U
That
is
very
disconcerting.
The
reason
why
I
raised
my
hand
is
I'm
trying
to
let
everybody
else
have
an
opportunity,
but
when.
U
So
I
think
I
heard
essentially
comment
that
suggested
that
people
are
mostly
protesting.
What
is
going
on
elsewhere
and
there's
a
lot
of
bad,
that's
been
going
on
elsewhere.
It
has
gotten
a
lot
of
press,
but
people
have
every
right
to
protest.
What
is
going
on
here
in
the
city
of
albany,
things
are
happening
and
there
is
not
enough
being
done
to
address
things
to
look
at
what
is
happening.
Frankly,
I
think
admitting
when
they're
wrong,
and
we
all
make
mistakes.
U
Starting
to
look
at
those
mistakes,
but
but
to
look
at
in
the
last
five
years,
we've
had
dante,
ivy
and
elizar
williams,
two
real
tragedies.
Those
are
real.
We
we
read
about.
We
see
the
videos
on
social
media,
people
being
kneeled
on
people
being
beaten,
people
being
gassed
and
pulled
by
their
collar
and
thrown
on
the
floor.
U
I
want
to
make
sure
that
this
council
and
everybody
else
knows
you've
seen
the
order
of
the
city.
Auditors
report
about
albany,
policing,
20
cases
settled
for
civil
rights
violations
in
the
last
five
years.
U
U
U
C
Yeah,
thank
you
kelly.
I
just
want
to
address
councilman
igo's
comment
that
you
know
that
it's
religion
in
northern
ireland,
it's
not
it's
jobs,
and
you
know
you
have
to
be
a
certain
religion
to
get
a
job.
My
aunt
came
to
this
country
back
in
the
30s
and
there
was
signs
up.
Irish
need
not
apply,
so
you
know
it's
not
you
don't
have
to
be
just
black
or
brown.
C
You
know
our
society
seems
to
target
certain
people,
but
I
do
want
to
ask
the
councilman
I
go
and-
and
you
count
pro
temp
but
kimbrough.
C
I
need
to
answer
this.
You
on
the
may
30th
tear
gas
was
used
to
disperse
the
crowd
and
what
happened?
The
crowd
went
off
and
that's
why
it
hit
all
the
papers.
The
crowd
went
off,
broke
windows,
all
the
way
up,
central
avenue
in
different
streets
and,
like
I
said
before,
to
cross
gates.
So
how
did
that
help
the
situation?
C
It
just
angered
people
and
it
made
them,
go
on
the
loose
and
what
will
we
do
if
we
have
another
crowd
like
that?
I
think
the
crowd
on
the
30th
was
a
lot
larger
than
the
crowd
on
june
1st
that
we
were
at
so
you
know.
I
don't
think
that
it's
a
silver
bullet
there
that
we're
going
to
use,
tear
gas
to
disperse
the
crowd
and
they're
going
to
go
home
and
be
happy.
No,
I
mean
it's
going
to
just
open
up
pandora's
box
and
I
do
have
a
question.
C
I
could
not
find
the
email
with
the
changes
I
just
went
through
it
during
this
meeting
are
and
are
rubber
bullets
being
banned
in
this
continuing
to
be
banned
and
that's
a
question.
So
I
have
two
questions
for
for
you
kelly
and
one
for
joe.
B
Yeah,
so
on
the
the
destruction,
the
path
of
destruction,
the
police
didn't
chase
those
folks
out
of
albany
or
up
and
make
that
happen.
That
was
gonna
happen
anyway,
it
was
happening
all
over
the
country
them
going
to
gilderland
or
up
washington.
That
was
that
people
are
angry.
People
are
upset
at
that
lost
lives,
the
maltreatment
of
folks
of
color
to
judy's
point
again,
george,
floyd
and
and
and
any
other
folk
people
that
have
died
at
the
hands
of
police.
Our
our
version
of
that
is
elazar
williams.
B
It
is
dante
ivey.
You
look
at
clay
gustav
who
was
the
cprb
chair
that
got
involved
with
the
interaction
altercation
with
the
police
that
people
don't
forget.
I
think
it's
it.
The
trust
issue
arises.
Things
happen.
There's
some
untruthfulness
on
the
part
of
you
know
the
police
department,
which
just
fuels
the
fire.
B
I
mean
it's
no
mystery
that
we're
we're
here,
but
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
with
you
know:
the
world
was
on
fire
during
that
time.
That
was
gonna
happen.
Those
folks
were
going
up
there
and
and
and
again
it's
it's
pent
up
anger
and
frustration.
And
again,
my
experience
with
the
police
is
a
lot
different
from
some
of
these
other
folks.
I
mean
the
day-to-day
interactions
for
some
folks
with
police
are
fairly
negative
and
it's
impactful
and
and
me
I've
had
some
some
of
my
own
bad
experiences
with
police
and
again
to
sit
here.
B
I
mean
it's,
it's
sometimes
saddens
me
to
think
about
it
and
then
at
other
times
it
makes
me
angry
and
I
want
to
hurt
someone,
so
I
can
see
how
some
of
those
those
folks
feel,
but
we
got
to
work
through
this
because
it's
it's,
the
destruction
isn't
helpful
for
our
communities.
B
C
C
B
B
Of
what
I
mean
we
are
talking
about
a
lengthy
history
of
bad
things
happening
in
police
abuses
and
and
the
like,
but
the
the
tear
grass
used
we're
talking
like
there's
this
long
history
of
of
the
albany
police
department
misusing
it
we're
talking
about
two
instances
last
year,
which
again
I
I
agree
with
the
use
in
in
time
when
it
began,
but
the
way
it
continued
and
spread
out
was
just
ridiculous,
absolutely
ridiculous
and
again,
maybe
that's
being
down
being
in
both
of
those
situations
and
and
having
the
experience
I
have
I
just
I
again.
B
B
C
C
B
Right,
so
you
realize
that
that
that
change
that
went
out
last
with
this
thing
that
we're
talking
about
it's
merely
a
proposal
at
this
point
as
miss
doshay
put
forth
and
amended
it.
That's
that's!
What's
in
play
right
now,
I'm
we're
trying
to
discuss
making
some
changes
to
it.
So
what
what
you
agreed
on
and
what
you
were
pushing
and
and
supported
before?
That's
that's!
B
That's
what,
if
you
know
if
we
we
move
forward,
that's
what
we'd
be
voting
on,
not
the
the
new
thing,
but
again
as
a
practical
matter,
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
and
comments
being
thrown
out.
Like
you,
you
for
instance,
said
why
didn't
the
police
intermingle
on
the
other
side
up
on
the
first
up
by
by
headquarters,
it's
dangerous!
It's
not
you!
You
saw
the
reaction
to
mr
ballard
and
he
was
being
polite
in
trying
to
to
support
those.
B
You
know
some
of
the
folks
that
were
there
you
mixed
police
in
in
into
that
plain
clothes
or
otherwise
it
just.
I
think
it's
a
recipe
for
disaster
and
again
for
in
both
instances,
probably
for
all
for
10
at
you
know,
there
may
have
been
less
than
one
out
of
ten
bad
actors
and
in
each
each
in
each
of
those
nights,
both
downtown
and
and
uptown,
but
when
bad
actors
are
interspersed
and
intermingled
with
people
that
are
just
standing
around
how?
How
do
you
manage
that?
It's
it's
tough!
B
It's
easy
for
us
to
sit
here
now
and
discuss
this
like.
Like
I
mean
this,
isn't
tv!
This
is
the
real
world
and
those
interactions
are
not
as
simple
as
as
everyone
thinks
they
they
are,
and-
and
so
that's
where
I'm
I'm
coming
from,
and
that's
why
I've
been
pushing
the
way
I've
been
pushing
on
this
yeah
so
again,.
C
Well,
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
was
talking
to
the
protesters
and
they
wanted
to
talk
to
officer
cancer,
and
I
went
over,
I
got
officer
cantor
and
he
came
over
and
was
talking
to
him
and
that's
when,
unfortunately,
the
fireworks
started
now
with
the
gentleman
that
went
after
alfredo
he
almost
let
me
he
had
issues
I
mean,
I
think
there
was
definite
issues
there.
You
know
not
because
of
the
situation,
but
I
think
personally
you
know
I'm
gonna
just
say
he
seemed
very
unbelievable.
C
The
millions
there
were
a
few
perfume
yeah,
but
you
know-
and
I
I
had
a
long
talk
with
council
president
aquari
and
you
know
he's
talking
about
maybe
having
a
police-
I'm
sorry,
a
peace
type
of
group
that
would
work
under
the
department
that
would
mingle
with
people.
We
need
to
be
able
to
get
people,
you
go
out
there
with
military
gear
shields
and
helmets.
C
You
know
and
that's
what
they
were
yelling
when
I
got
down
there,
you
know
take
off
the
shield,
take
a
look
there
come
and
talk
to
us
now
would,
if
somebody
would
have
done
that,
would
they
have
jumped
all
over
and
beat
him
up?
I
would
hope
not,
but
you
know
we
need
to
get
to
a
point
that
we're
not
at
war
and
it
feels
like
a
civil
war.
To
me
I
mean
that's
how
the
whole
situation
seems,
and
you
know
the
whole
idea
is.
C
B
Yeah
and
before
I
let
mr
get
galen
speak
it
and
the
thing
is,
a
couple
of
members
have
said
it
and
mentioned
the
way
things
used
to
be
with
our
community
policing
and
we
had
the
trust
of
the
community
and-
and
I
mean
we're
past,
that
point
a
few.
B
Some
things
have
happened
over
the
years
and
quite
you
know
quite
frankly,
I
mean
I
could
see
this
coming,
but
we
are
we're
where
we're
at
now,
so
we
got
to
work
through
it,
but
it's
not
going
to
get
better
without
the
police,
getting
together
with
the
community
and
and
and
setting
some
ground
rules
and
coming
up
with
some
solutions
and
agreeing
to
disagree,
but
the
mal
treatment
has
to
stop
not
every
community
member
is
a
bad
guy
or
up
to
no
good,
but
by
the
same
token
not
every
police
officer
is
I
I
I
mean
again
there.
B
There
are
good
police
officers
mixed
into
that
that
fray,
when
things
go
wrong
and
they're
more
good
than
bad,
just
like
with
the
community,
you
got
a
few
people,
bad
apples
that
make
it
tough
and,
and
so
we
we
gotta,
we
gotta
work
through
it.
So,
mr
gallon
or
galen
you
wanna,
you
wanna,
say
something
and
then
we'll.
T
Sorry,
through
a
lot
of
feedback,
I
just
wanted
to
say
well
first
off,
thank
you,
for
I
know
this
has
been
a
robust
conversation
and
I
I
know
it's
a
very
difficult
topic,
so
I
appreciate
everyone
taking
the
time
to
to
deliberate
and
and
discuss
this
further
there's
a
couple
of
things
I
heard
throughout
the
conversation
I
just
wanted
to
touch
on
and
respond
to.
I
know
we
there
was.
There
was
some
mention
of.
T
A
weakening
of
community
policing-
and
I
think
you
know
the
mayor
has
touched
on
this-
I
think
with
several
council
members-
and
I
think
richard
and
and
derek
and
a
couple
other
members
kathy.
I
think,
touched
on
this
and
I
just
want
to
reiterate
it.
It
is
part
of
the
part
of
the
strain
here
is
being
down
so
many
officers
and
and
not
being
able
to
get
up
to
full
staffing.
T
We've
tried
very
hard,
we've
hired
several
classes,
we've
tried
to
obviously
covert,
has
impacted
the
size
of
the
academies
and
we're
hoping
to
hire
a
very
large
class
in
january,
but
I
do
you
know,
think
some
council
members
did
hit
the
nail
on
the
head,
that
being
down
50
or
so
officers
is
definitely
having
an
impact,
and
I
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
that
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
touch
on
well,
two
other
things.
T
Last
year,
two
of
the
individuals
who
were
arrested,
one
for
throwing
a
brick
at
an
officer
and
another
for
throwing
a
molotov
cocktail.
The
police
force
were
residents
of
delmar
and
troy
respectively
and
on
the
second
night,
five
of
the
nine
people
arrested
were
not
residents
of
the
city
of
albany,
and
I
know
earlier
there
was
a
discussion
about
peaceful.
You
know
we
don't
want
to
use
tear
gas
against
peaceful
protesters,
and
the
mayor
agrees.
She
she
supports
a
ban
on
the
use
of
tear
gas
against
peaceful
protests.
T
But
I
I
want
to
be
cognizant
that
what
happened,
especially
on
the
first
night,
there
was
violence
that
escalated
toward
not
only
officers
but
other
property
and
has
been
well
documented
in
this
meeting
and
and
you
know
over
the
last
year.
So
I
just
want
to
remind
everyone
of
that.
Where.
T
T
Here
so
so
we're
all
on
the
same
page
and.
T
I
do
want
to
reiterate
again,
you
know,
as
kelly
mentioned,
this
is
a
this
is
a
I
know,
working
proposal.
I
know.
There's
still,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
thoughts
that
have
come
out
of
this
meeting
and
I
know
there's
going
to
be
more
discussion
on
it
and
we
look
forward
to
to
having
that
and
continuing
that
discussion
moving
forward.
So
just
wanted
to
again
say
thank
you
to
everyone
for
taking
the.
B
Time,
thank
you,
mr
cowan,
so
I
think
everyone's
spoken
and
we
had
our
discussion.
R
I
guess
I'd
like
to
start
on
what
we
agree
on.
I
mean
because
this
is
a
tough,
tough
subject
and
there's
a
lot.
We
don't
agree
on
so
can
we
can
we
start
what
we
agree
on
and
go
from
there
I
mean
if
someone
else
has
a
better
strategy.
I'm
I'm
I'm
open,
but
I
do
think
you
know
I
don't
want
to
just
having
I
just.
R
I
don't
want
to
keep
having
conversations
about
having
conversations
you
know
so
I
like
for
us
to
have
some
conversation
about
the
documents
and
how
we
can
start
moving
that
forward.
So
I'm
gonna
ask
maybe
that's
one
strategy
and
if
others
have
other
strategies
like
I
said,
I'm
open
to
that.
B
Right-
and
I
I
I
agree-
and
that
was
my
intention,
but
I
mean
folks-
I
I
the
thing
is
I
I
can
keep
talking
about
this
and
keep
restating
my
stance
on
it
as
well
as
mr
o'shea.
Ultimately
I
I
I
don't
have
the
final
decision
on
this.
Ultimately,
it's
we're
a
body
and
the
group
decides
how
we,
how
we
move
forward.
B
O
You
know
kelly,
I
honestly,
don't
you
know
you're
either
for
the
band
or
you're
not
for
the
band
and
people
have
to
make
that
decision.
I
I
have.
I
think
people
are
going
to
make
the
decision
on
the
floor.
You
know
alfredo
you
mentioned,
come
up
with
what
we
agree
on.
You
know.
O
Anyone
who
is
against
the
ban.
You
know
you
might
want
to
work
on.
You
know
that
other
piece
of
legislation
that
came
out
today,
but
you
know,
as
far
as
us,
continuing
the
conversation
tonight.
I
honestly
think
people
are
you
either
know
where
you
stand
on
this
or
you're
going
to
make
a
decision
on
the
floor.
So
I
don't
know
that's
my
opinion.
B
O
You
know
I
mean
I
think
that
there
are
people
who
support,
who
support
the
ban
and
those
who
don't.
I
think
there
should
be
enough.
You
know
you
can
always
try
the
amendment
again
kelly.
If
that's
so
you
know,
I
don't
know
whose
piece
of
legislation
that
is
that
came
out
this
afternoon,
but.
O
O
We
weren't
people
weren't
ready
to
jump
on
the
amendment.
You
know
when
you
introduced
it,
but
there's
been
some
changes
made
to
it
and
maybe
there
will
be
some
additional
changes
but
as
far
as
us
moving
forward
tonight,
I
I
just
don't
know
what
else.
K
Yeah,
so
I
guess
I'm
just
gonna
lay
out
what
the
options
are,
because
no
one
I
mean
no
one
wants
to
continue
talking
about
this
because
we
keep
on
talking
around
and
around.
K
So
here
are
the
options
you
know
the
local
local
I
see
is
currently
existing
or
whatever
can
be
brought
up
for
a
vote
and
we
can
either
you
know,
vote
up
or
down
or,
however,
members
want
to
vote
on
that
and
depending
on
the
outcome
and
what
the
mayor
might
do,
we
might
be
coming
back
to
the
other
proposal
at
some
point
later
on
or
local
sc
can
come
up
and
someone
can
offer
an
alternative,
the
alternative
amendment.
K
As
an
amendment
to
that,
then
you
know
you
will
have
that
whole
discussion
and
if
members
as
majority
want
to
amend
it
to
be
the
alternative
or
whatever
that
might
be,
that
can
happen,
and
then
that
would
move
the
process
forward
quicker,
one
way
or
the
other
or
someone
can
move
to
to
table
it,
and
then
we
can
just
have
more
discussions
on
it,
which
I
don't
think
everybody
wants
to
have.
I
think
we
want.
K
We
have
a
lot
of
issues
we
need
to
deal
with,
so
I
think
we
we're
at
the
point
where
we've
talked
it
through
and
through
and
through,
and
I
think
we
just
need
to
move
forward
and
see
where
we're
going,
but
yeah,
that's,
you
know,
have
an
up
or
down
vote.
K
Someone
can
offer
amendment
monday
as
the
alternative,
and
you
know
the
mayor
has
indicated
that
she
might
not
sign
or
or
she
might
veto
in
current
form,
which
means
it
likely
will
come
back
to
us
to
deal
with
it
in
some
other
way,
and
so
we
might
be
back
to
discussing
the
alternative
if
local
see
does
pass,
which
I
don't
know,
I
don't
I
don't
know
where
ultimately,
what's
going
to
happen
anymore,.
B
Okay,
okay,
yeah,
and
so
with
that
we'll
we'll
we'll
just
we'll
vote
on
it
on
monday.
B
Let's
move
forward
and
work
from
that
that
space
again,
I
feel
like
I'm
talking
till
I'm
blowing
my
face
and-
and
I
I
know
judy
feels
the
same
way
so,
and
I
know
you
wanted
the
floor,
vote
and
vote
so
just
either
that
or
someone
offers
an
amendment
but
either
way
we
move
forward
with
it
on
monday,
so
we
have
been
round
and
round
and
round,
and
we've
had
lengthy
discussions
and
and
so
to
continue
to
to
go
round
and
round
it's
just
not
productive
and
again,
we've
all
put
a
lot
of
thought
and
effort
in
into
into
this,
and
I'm
sure
this
isn't
the
end
of
the
conversation,
either
police
reform
or
the
tear
gas
conversation
so
we'll
just
move
forward
with
it
on
monday.
K
Just
make
one
observation
sure
we
are
dealing
with
so
many
controversial
issues
and
mr
flynn
has
thrown
another
one
on
the
docket,
but
just
a
reminder
that
public
comment
is
an
hour,
but
you
know
between
this
and
good
cause
eviction
and
whatever
else
is
going
on.
K
We
just
want
to
be
cognizant
that
there
is
a
limit
on
on
public
comment
in
terms
of
how
much
you
know
our
rules
provide,
so
that
we
can
get
on
to
actually
deliberating
and
dealing
with
with
the
business.
Otherwise
we
can
be
here,
be
there
all
night
monday.
K
There
is
a
provision
you
know
you
can
do
an
up
to
an
hour
before
we
get
into
our
regular
agenda.
There
is
a
provision
in
the
rules
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
After
we
finish
and
before
we
adjourn.
If
anyone
wishes
to
make
additional,
not
anyone
who
has
not
heard
who
wishes
to
make
a
dish.
Public
comment
at
the
end
can
do
so.
K
There's
a
there's,
a
30
minute
limit
on
that,
okay,
good
and
and
just
want
to
remind
members,
because
we,
you
know
when
we
put
that
limitation
in
the
rules.
There
was
a
period
where
there
was
no
limitation
and
public
comment
could
go
on
for
four
hours
and
we
were
then
doing
the
people's
business
after
midnight
or
you
know
whatever,
and
the
public
then
did
not
have
the
right
or
ability
to
see
us
acting
now.
K
You
can
see
the
recording,
I
guess,
but
the
purpose
there
was
to
be
complying
with
the
spirit
of
the
open
meetings,
law
and
public
meetings,
so
that
the
public
can
reasonably
see
our
actions
and
deliberations
at
a
reasonable
hour.
And
that
was
the
reason
why
we
put
that
limitation
on
public
comment,
which
is
actually,
I
think,
more
liberal
than
other
bodies,
including
the
county
legislature.
B
Thank
you
for
that
richard.
So
with
that
motion
too,
during
the
meeting.