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From YouTube: Council Operations & Ethics February 17, 2022
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Meeting to interview and consider candidates for the reapportionment commission, part 1.
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F
B
B
Thursday
february
17th
meeting
of
the
council
operations
and
ethics
committee,
I
will
be
meeting
here
today
to
interview
applicants
for
the
reapportionment
commission
for
the
record
committee.
Members
are
mr
hoey,
mr
johnson
and
myself,
we're
also
joined
by
staff.
Daniel
excuse
me,
council
members,
deborah
zane,
ziemer
and
council
member
megan
keegan
as
well
as
our
staff,
danielle
gillespie
and
our
clerk
and
ethan
samuel
legislative
aide.
A
B
G
A
B
D
E
B
Yeah
and
so
for
reapportionment,
it's
this
commission,
it's
something
we
do
every
10
years
to
to
ensure
a
fair
and
equal
representation.
We
redraw
the
lines
of
awards
here
in
the
city
to
cohen's
coincide
with
the
census
numbers.
So
with
that
we
will,
if
miss,
if
the
first,
unless
someone
has
a
question,
because
because
we
that
we
had
actually,
we
were
supposed
to
take
the
first
person
at
5
45.
Was
that
correct?
B
J
B
Yeah
right,
but
the
thing
is
we
need
to
do
the
interviews,
even
if
it
we
can't
fully,
you
know,
put
members
on
there.
We
need
to
move
forward
and
start
composing
it.
The
thing
is
this:
this
stuff
is
all
done
for
representation
in
the
2025
elections,
so
we
want
to
do
it
sooner
rather
than
later,
but
in
terms
of
needing
them
to
be
in
place,
we
need
them.
We
don't
need
them
until
off
in
the
distance,
we're
also
joined
by
council
member
gabriella
romero.
D
B
B
J
B
J
B
B
We
were
just
because
members
were
flowing
in
so
we
haven't
been
on
that
long
like
so,
you
didn't,
you
didn't
miss
anything
so,
but
with
that,
can
we
asked
mr
allardyce
and
so
just
real
quick,
and
so
the
idea
is
to
just
kind
of
I'll
I'll,
pose
the
question
and
ask
them
to
explain
why
or
why
state
why
they?
They
want
to
be
a
part
of
the
commission
and
let
them
speak
a
little
bit
and
then
we'll
go
around
the
room
and
members
can
ask
questions.
B
A
B
B
Why
you're,
interested
and
being
a
part
of
the
commission,
and
then
the
council,
members
or
committee
members
are
asked,
will
ask
questions
if
they
have
any
questions
of
you
all
right.
So
with
that,
thank
you
for
your
interest
in
being
a
part
of
this,
and
you
can
you
can
just
let
us
know
why
you're
interested
in
joining.
K
J
L
J
K
K
K
I'm
a
son
of
albany.
Currently
I'm
deputy
commissioner
for
general
services
for
albany
county
and
I've
always
been
one
to
want
to
help.
When
there's
something
I
heard
there
was
a
problem
for
getting
people
for
this
committee
and
I
said
well
I'll
help
if
they
need
and
they
need
my
help,
and
I
submitted
my
resume
to
ms
gillespie,
and
here
we
are
anything
in
particular:
I'm
missing:
father,
three
children,
grandchildren,
all
new
albany
schools,
I'm
a
graduate
of
the
albany
schools
myself.
So.
B
K
I
don't
know
much
about
the
census
data.
I
read
a
little
bit
of
what
the
city
of
yonkers
did
in
in
their
most
recent
one.
I
I'll
be
honest.
I
don't
know
much
about
it.
I've
spoken
to
a
few
people
and
it's
basically
trying
to
ensure
that
the
boundaries
are
done
fairly
and
equitably,
based
on
the
census,
data.
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
miss
aladex
for
being
here.
I
do
have
a
question.
You
mentioned
that
you're
a
member
of
the
democratic
committee,
and
that
you
basically
background
in
politics
in
the
city
of
albany.
What
will
you
do
to
basically
remain
neutral
when
it
if
it
comes
to
where
there's
political
pressure
to
try
to
support
one
agenda
over
another?
Could
you
speak
a
little
bit
about
that.
C
K
I
see
somewhere
are
could
be
better
suited
as
far
as
making
it
easier
for
people
to
be
heard
in
the
wards.
There's
certain
as
a
committeeman.
We
have
perfect
example-
is
holmes
court.
One
side
of
the
street
is
in
seventh
ward,
one
sides
in
the
eighth
which
doesn't
make
any
sense.
We
go
further
down
two
blocks.
K
There's
a
sign!
There's
a
half
of
street
joanne
court.
That's
in
the
eighth!
That
would
make
more
sense
for
that
to
be
in
the
seventh
just
common
sense
approach
to
it
to
make
sure
that
people
are
getting
are
being
heard
through
their
representatives
so
that
they
know
who
their
ward
leaders
are
and
stuff
and
their
council
members.
K
B
K
B
H
I
just
wanted
to
know
from
mr
allardyce
just
for
his
understanding
that,
and
I
I
it's
my
understanding-
that
the
the
ward
lines
will
always
split
streets,
because
that's
that's
how
the
lines
are
drawn,
so
you
will
always
have
situations
where
one
side
of
the
street
may
be
in
one
word
where
the
other
side
of
the
street
is
in
another,
because
the
streets
are
the
boundary
lines.
That's
just
that's
all.
I
wanted
to
note
there
not
really
a
question.
Sorry
more
of
a
comment.
H
H
B
Yes,
so
any
other
questions,
if
they're
no
further
questions
we'll
close
this
out
with
mr
allardyce.
Thank
you
again
for
your
interest.
I'm
sure
you'll
be
helpful
if
chosen
for
the
committee.
For
for
the
commission,
I
I
know
you,
the
thing
is
being
a
lifelong
albanian
is
very
helpful
because
you
understand
to
an
extent
how
things
work
and
and
how
they're
all
laid
out-
and
that's
that's
helpful,
sometimes
so
so.
Thank
you
for
your
your
interest
and
we'll
we'll
be
in
touch
we're.
B
Yeah,
so
just
looking
at
some
of
the
ward
lines
over
the
years,
you
you
kind
of
look
at
them
and
say
well,
how
did
they
do
that
or
why
did
they
do
that
and
it's
it's,
but
again
just
understanding
the
process.
It
you're
trying
to
get
the
formula
for
my
formula:
get
the
breakdown
right
and
fair
representation.
So
it
ends
up
screwing.
B
H
B
And
so
I
you
know,
I
know
I
I
I
mentioned
out
the
next
election
whatever,
but
we're
certainly
not
gonna.
Take
our
time
getting
this
stuff
done
so
we'll
be
well
under
we'll.
Have
the
the
commission
together
and
they'll
be
deliberating
and
working
on
this
stuff
well
before
before
we
have
to
worry
about
that
stuff.
In
any
case,.
B
C
A
H
Real
quick
on
the
end
y'all.
I
think
it
also
would
be
really
helpful
to
have
the
litigation
from
the
county
ledge.
While
the
city
has
not
been
sued
as
a
result
of
the
redrawing
of
the
lines,
there
have
been
two
so
both,
I
believe,
the
20
to
the
2000
census
and
the
2010
site
census
resulted
in
the
county
being
sued
over
their
reapportionment
and
the
county
lost
in
both
of
those
cases
and
had
to
go
back
and
redraw
their
lines.
H
A
We'll
look
for
the
case
law
and
then
we'll
also
send
out
the
resolution
that
established
the
reapportionment
or
the
ability
to
form
a
reapportionment
commission
as
a
result
of
this
last
census
that
passed
so
we'll
put
together
a
packet
and
send
it
out
to
everyone.
That's
here,
and
maybe
just
the
council
at
large,
mr
chair,
whichever
your
preference.
B
B
B
And
your
your
experience
of
familiarity
may
may
all
should
also
come
into
play
and
be
helpful
throughout
this
process.
So
what
what
we'll
do
is
we're
interviews
for
the
reapportionment
commission-
and
you
know
we
do
it
every
10
years
after
the
after
the
census
to
to
adjust
the
lines
if
necessary.
So
what
we're
doing
is
having
candidates
or
applicants
just
kind
of
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
themselves
and
explain
why
they
want
to
be
on
the
commission,
and
then
we
go
around
and
ask
questions
so
with
that.
M
As
you've,
probably
seen
on
my
resume,
I
was
a
member
of
the
common
council
for
16
years
12
as
a
representative
of
the
7th
ward
and
4
as
common
council
president
during
those
years,
I
would
say
that
my
standard
of
measure
for
the
decisions
made
by
the
council
and
by
the
city
in
general
was
really
how
would
it
affect
people
who
lived
in
the
city?
How?
How
does
it
affect
how
we
live
in
this
city
and
whether
that
was
planning
and
zoning
decisions
or
public
safety?
M
The
goal
was
always
to
make
sure
that
living
in
albany
was
was
something
that
people
would
choose
not
get
stuck
in
that
we
could
make
a
city
where
people
felt
safe,
where
they
could
earn
a
living.
They
could
raise
their
children,
have
a
good
education,
and
you
know
all
the
things
that
make
for
a
you
know:
good
quality
of
life
in
the
city.
M
The
other
part,
the
the
other
part
of
my
resume,
that
I'd
like
to
highlight
is
the
work
that
I've
done
with
government
communication
and
state
agencies
prior
to
being
on
the
city
council.
I
worked
in
the
state
assembly
and
then,
after
with
the
state
attorney
general's
office
and
in
both
of
those
jobs,
was
responsible
for
developing
and
managing
outreach
efforts,
whether
that
was
brochures,
newsletters
public
events,
presentations
again
increasing
people's
accessibility
to
find
information
about
government
and
how
they
can
live
their
lives.
B
L
Hi
miss
morris.
How
are
you
today,
I'm
will?
How
are
you
doing
well
just
a
question
and
thank
you
for
all
that
information
since
you've
been
a
part
of
this
process
in
the
past.
Are
there
elements
of
the
process,
assuming
you
know
if
we
were
to
move
forward
with
you
for
this
go
around?
Are
there
elements
of
the
process
that
you
would
like
to
enhance
or
improve,
and
if
so,
could
you
could
you
describe
what
those
are.
M
You
know
often,
you
know,
americans
have
the
luxury
of
not
having
to
delve
into
a
lot
of
the
details
of
of
how
people
get
elected
and
how
they
get
there
so
and
something
that
I
felt
in
the
past,
and
I
thought
that
the
last
reapportionment
was
much
better
in
the
sense
that
they
held
a
lot
of
public
meetings
in
the
neighborhoods,
where
you
know
where
people
lived.
Not
just
you
know,
sitting
in
the
you
know
the
courtroom
or
the
common
council
chamber,
and
I
thought
that
that
was
pretty
effective.
M
D
Hi
sean
morris-
it's
an
honor
to
be
here
with
you.
You
know
you
have
just
looking
at
your
resume
in
the
history
and
of
public
service.
You
know
thank
you
for
from
all
of
us
for
the
work
and
thank
you
for
wanting
to
help
us
out
with
this,
because
we
will
need
help.
I
don't
think
there's
a
member
on
the
council.
D
That's
been
around
since
the
last
reapportionment,
so
we
need
that
that
background.
The
institutional
knowledge
of
you
know
how
we
move
forward.
So
you
know,
as
you've
probably
seen,
we've
lost.
We
used
to
have
two
assembly
members
taking
care
of
the
city
of
albany,
and
my
concern
is-
and
I
don't
know
how
it
works.
This
came
up
in
a
in
a
previous
interview.
D
M
You
know
really,
you
know
this.
The
city
is
the
smallest
unit
in
that
process,
and
we
have
to
then
live
with
what
you
know.
So,
while
our
lines
are
the
whole
ward
lines
won't
depend
upon
what
the
other
two
entities
do
where
it
comes.
You
know
where
we're
impacted
by
it
is
when
we
start
drawing
election
districts
within
the
wards.
M
So
you
know
so
you
find
that
sometimes
you
know
you're
because
of
the
overlap
of
well
now.
This
time,
though,
it's
only
one
assembly
district
which
helps
a
bit
there,
but
the
imposition
of
the
or
the
imposing
of
the
the
county
legislative
lines
will
affect
how
election
districts
are
drawn,
so
that
you
know,
because
you
you,
they
need
discrete
boundaries
for
each
of
the
the
entities,
both
the
city
and
the
county.
So.
M
Really
the
impact-
and
sometimes
that's
just
frustrating,
because
they
don't
really
pay
attention.
You
know
the
you
know.
The
next
line
up
doesn't
really
pay
attention
to
the
impact
that
their
lines
are
going
to
have
on
things
like
election
districts,
but
then
we
still
have
to
find
inspectors,
and
you
know,
set
of
you
know,
find
locations
for
you
know
multiple
election
districts
and
things
like
that.
So
so.
M
Well,
who
will
come
up
first
for
election?
I
think
county,
a
county
legislative
race
will
happen
before
a
common
council.
Race
does
but
there's,
but
we
are
not
interdependent
on
on
how
those
lines
are
drawn
it
you
know
we
could
you
know
if
you
wanted
to
pass
legislation
tomorrow
that
redrew
the
lines
you
know
that
you
had
a
computer
drawn.
You
decided.
That's,
you
know
what
we
were
going
to
do.
M
D
M
You
know
that
that
you
know
a
few
election
districts,
but
it
really
it
comes
down
to
election
districts,
not
wards,
and
so
it's
really
and
you
may
then
find
that
you
then
have
to
tweak
again
once
the
county
legislature
passes
their
lines
and
then
you
have
to
tweak
them
again.
After
the
you
know,
the
city
passes
their
lines,
so
it's
always
tweaking
the
election
districts
and
that's
and
there's
no
special
order
to
how
the
state
usually
gets
theirs
done.
M
D
M
M
M
You
know
for
election
districts,
but
and
it's
probably
better
to
once
you
initiate
it
to
say
we're
going
to
get
this
done
in
a
year
just
just
because
after
a
while
people
just
get,
you
know
worn
out
with
the
same
thing
over
and
over
again,
so
you
know
the
the
more
quickly
and
and
as
with
any
committee
you
you
know,
you
all
know
that
it
all
depends
upon
how
much
time
people
need
for
it.
You
know,
so
you
would
assume
that
that
you
would
have
to
have.
M
You
know
a
certain
number
of
public
hearings.
You
would
probably
want
to
come
up
with
a
couple
of
different.
You
know
maps
and
things
like
that
for
people
to
comment
upon
and
and
get
the
feedback.
I
remember
in
2010,
when
you
know
the
first
ones
they
came
out
with
split
up
my
neighborhood
into
like
four
or
five
different
districts.
M
The
first
lines
did
and
it
was
like
you
know,
I
you
you
never
expect
the
neighborhood
to
be
completely
intact
because
it
just
doesn't
work
that
way,
not
with
all
the
other
considerations
you
have
to
bring
to
it,
however,
splitting
it
up
too
far.
Is
it
doesn't
do
the
neighborhood
a
lot
of
good?
So
so
we
had
those
discussions
and
they
fixed
it,
and
now
it's
two,
maybe
a
little
bit
of
a
third,
so.
D
Yeah
and
my
concern
is
like
as
we're
interviewing
people
to
try
to
tell
them
what
the
time
commitment
is
going
to
be.
I
mean
I
don't
have
to
ask
you
if
you
you're
volunteering
and
you
know
what
it's
about,
but
when
other
people
come
in
for
this
committee,
you
know.
Is
there
any
advice
that
we
can
give
them?
How
much
time
would
be
involved.
M
C
M
A
certain
period
of
time,
more
than
that,
if
you're
doing
a
lot
of
public
hearings,
so
I
you
know,
I
think
it's
one
of
those
things
that
it's
not
just.
You
know
once
every
two
months,
you
you
know,
look
over
a
memo,
it's
more
intensive
than
that.
You
might
even
want
to
compare
it
to
something
like
the
board
of
zoning
appeals
or
something
like
that.
Where
you
know
people
have,
you
know
a
fairly
strong
commitment
of
time
for
it,
but
it's
discreet
at
the
end
of
it.
M
D
B
H
Thank
you
miss
morris
for
making
the
time
to
be
here
and
again.
I
just
wanted
to
also
express
my
excitement
that
you're
willing
to
come
back
and
and
give
up
your
time
to
help
us
through
this
process
kind
of
spinning
off
of
tom
hoey.
I
mean
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
saw
such
a
significant
changes
to
the
state
maps
this
year
is
that
the
legislature
really
kind
of
took
to
heart
an
anti-gerrymandering
process
that
they
had.
H
You
know,
of
course,
attempted
to
get
actually
enacted
into
the
state
constitution
which
didn't
quite
work
out,
but
they
still
tried
to
follow
those
principles
and
that's
why
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
saw
such
a
different
assembly
map
for
the
city
of
albany,
because
they
wanted
to
ensure
integrity
of
municipalities
and
the
drawing
of
those
districts,
and
I
think
you
sort
of
kind
of
answered
this
question.
But
you
know
I
I
just
wanted
to
know
what
your
thoughts
are
on,
how
to
drill
those
principles
down
onto
the
the
city
level.
H
In
terms
of
how
we
approach
our
reapportionment
process,
because,
as
as
you
mentioned
like,
there
are
many
times
where
neighborhoods
and
particularly
neighborhood
associations
are,
are
in
a
position
where
they
have
to
advocate
with
multiple
different
representatives
in
order
to
accomplish
the
same
task,
and
that
isn't
necessarily
always
the
best
position
for
those
folks
to
be
in.
In
terms
of
being
able
to
advocate
advocate
to
have
their
needs
met.
M
Well,
you
know,
there's
there's
certain,
you
know
legal.
You
know
there
is
a
law
about
this.
You
know
about
what
what
you
need
to
consider
and
even
though
some
have
you
know
disturbingly
gone
by
the
wayside.
You
know
in
terms
of
what
you
have
to
consider
when
you're
drawing
lines.
I
think
that
you
know,
from
my
own
perspective,
I'm
a
very
strong
believer
in
the
voting
rights
act
as
it
was
originally
written
and
that
we
need
to
continue
to
follow
both.
M
You
know
the
law,
the
letter
of
the
law
as
it
was
written
as
well,
as
you
know,
the
spirit
of
the
law
that
remains
so
maximizing.
You
know
representation.
Is
you
know
it?
You
know,
for
minorities
I
think,
is
very
important
and
taking
that
into
consideration
as
to
how
do
we
maximize
the
the
influence
of
minorities
and
districts
across
the
city?
So
that's
that's
kind
of
like
the
first
house.
If
you
will,
like
you
know
how
many
districts
can
we
draw
that?
M
Are
either
minority
majority
or
minority
influence
districts
and
and
then
taking
it
from
there
to
to
then
you
know
to
to
then
make
sure
that
neighborhoods
are
represented
and
that
you
know
I
think,
then
we
start
thinking
about
a
lot
of
different.
You
know
is
the
only
word
I
can
think
of,
but
it's
not
just
racial
diversity,
but
that
neighborhoods
have
or
the
wards
have
a
smattering
of
different
elements
that
make
up
the
city
so
that
you
know
it's,
maybe
not
a
district.
That's
completely
residential.
M
You
know,
single-family
homes,
you
know,
or
a
district
that
is
so
taken
up
with
either
commercial
businesses
or
institutions
that
it's
hard
to
to
bring
the
people
who
live
there
back
into
it
that
they're
so
divided
by
it.
You
know
the
seventh
ward,
when
I
first
started,
was
had
two
sizable
populations
on
delaware,
avenue
and
off
of
new
scotland
and
then
separated
from
them
by
you
know
the
whole
university
heights
area,
where,
like
the
smatterings
of
other
streets,
that's
just
kind
of
hard
to
get
the
traction
there.
M
M
You
know,
let
me
jump
back
because
jeremy
gerrymandering,
for
the
sake
of
you,
know,
optimizing
a
particular
person
or
you
know,
opportunity
within
a
district
or
to
cut
out
someone
based
upon
their
personal
politics
or
something
like
that.
Is
it's
just
wrong,
because
those
lines
are
going
to
outlast
most
people,
and
it's
just
you
know.
Well,
you
know.
Well
it's
it's
not
the
place
to
to
throw
in
your
political
agendas
or
opportunities,
and
that's
certainly
a
line
that
I
I
I
draw
very
strongly.
H
B
B
B
Okay,
okay,
good!
Thank
you,
kelly,
kimbrough,
chair
of
the
council
operations
and
ethics
committee,
as
well
as
our
president
pro
tem.
Thank
you
for
your
your
interest.
Again.
We're
interviewing
for
for
reapportionment
commission
been
having
folks
that
come
in
basically
explain
or
state
why
they
want
to
be
on
the
on
the
commission
and
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
themselves,
and
then
we
go
around
the
room
and
members
ask
questions
so
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
N
Great
well,
thank
you
for
for
having
me
join
me
today
and
I
do
want
to
apologize.
You
may
hear
a
puppy
whining
in
the
background
I
adopted
one
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
and
he's
still
learning
the
whole
being
in
the
crate,
while,
while
dad's
on
a
zoom
call
but
yeah.
So
you
know
I
I've
lived
in
the
city
of
albany
for
a
couple
of
different.
N
I've
been
interested
in
ways
to
get
more
involved
in
the
community
and
give
back,
and
you
know,
explore
ways
to
to
be
involved
in
in
a
meaningful
way.
I
you
know,
as
you
may
see
from
from
my
resume,
I
have
a
background
in
government
and
have
a
background
in
city
and
regional
planning,
and
so
through.
Those
two
lenses
and
and
kind
of
understanding
the
importance
of
you
know
having
quality
involvement
in
community
this.
This
position
felt
like
a
role
that
I
would
be
a
good
fit
for.
N
It
felt
like
a
role
that
I
would
be
able
to
provide
a
thoughtful
and
a
valuable
contribution
to,
and
you
know,
I'm
I'm
hopeful
that
that
it'll
be
something
that
I'm
able
to
to
kind
of
you
know
work
with
the
other
members
and
come
up
with
a
plan.
That's
you
know,
reflects
the
city
and
is
you
know,
provides
a
meaningful
outcome.
B
D
Yeah
you
got
me,
thank
you,
mr
carrie
dylan,
for
coming.
We
appreciate
it.
I
just
wanted.
I'm
I'm
looking
at
your
resume
and
I'm
glad
we
got
you
into
new
york
city.
So
we
need
people
up
here.
You
know
to
help
us
develop
this
city
into
like
the
number
one
city
in
the
country.
So
do
you
have
the
time
I
I
just
found
out
from
a
previous
applicant
who's
on
the
council
for
many
years
and
gone
through
these
reapportionments?
D
D
N
Yeah,
absolutely
you
know
it's
actually
one
of
the
things
that
I
I
was
open
to
to
get
a
little
bit
more
information
on
was
the
time
commitment
and
as
you've
outlaid
it.
You
know
if
it
is
meetings,
bi-weekly
meetings
and
then
doing
work
kind
of
in
in
between
absolutely
I
have
the
time
I
mean
I
I
you
know,
I'm
I'm
a
single
person
living
living
here
in
the
city
and
other
than
taking
care
of
the
dog.
I'm
you
know
I
have
a
full-time
nine-to-five
that
that
takes
up.
N
You
know
often
slightly
more
than
nine
to
five,
but
you
know
I
have
evenings
that
that
I'm
I'm
willing
to
commit
to
this,
and
you
know
I.
I
absolutely
believe
that
you
know,
and
I'm
planning
to
see
this
through
kind
of.
Like
I
indicated
albany
is
where
I
see
my
long-term
future,
I'm
not
I'm
not
going
anywhere,
and
it's
definitely
something
that
I
I'm
you
know
I
would
be
committed
to.
If,
if
I
were
to
join
the
commission.
D
N
Absolutely
that's
in
a
lot
of
ways,
sort
of
my
my
default
way
in
which
I
see
the
world.
I've
always
kind
of
looked
at
the
world
through
maps
and
understood
it
through
maps,
and
you
know
at
pratt.
I
was
able
to
gain
the
skills
to
kind
of
turn
that
you
know
instinctive.
You
know
looking
at,
maybe
a
google
map
or
looking
at
paper
maps
into
how
can
I
use
some
of
the
more
advanced
tools
like
arcgis
and
things
to
do
analysis
based
on
the
information
that's
available?
N
You
know,
and
I
know
that
there's
also
a
number
of
really
strong
tools
that
can
be
used
in
kind
of
web-based
tools.
I
don't
know
if
they're
necessarily
all
you
know
they
would
be
available
for
something
like
this
but
yeah.
I
think
that
my
experience
from
pratt
is
absolutely
something
that
I'd
be
able
to
assist
with.
B
H
Hi,
thank
you
again
so
much
for
making
the
time
to
be
with
us
tonight
and
also
for
applying
to
to
do
this
really
important
role.
I
have
sort
of
a
follow-up
map
question
and
I
do
apologize,
I'm
I'm
not
actually
on
the
committee,
so
I
haven't
been
able
to
see
people's
resumes
yet,
but
I
just
wanted
to
to
to
drill
down
a
little
bit
more.
So
in
I
understand
that
you
have
some
map
making
experience.
H
Have
you
ever
had
experience
having
to
actually
apply
data
and
to
draw
maps
based
upon
actual
data
as
opposed
to
a
physical
geographic
space,
and
if
you
could
just
sort
of
elaborate
a
little
bit
so
I
I
understand
a
little
bit
more
about
that
particular
component
of
your
skill
set.
It
would
be
appreciated.
Thank
you.
N
Yeah,
definitely,
you
know
during
during
my
time
at
pratt
one
of
the
kind
of
core
competencies
that
that
I
learned
was
the
use
of
arcgis,
the
use
of
gis
platforms
to
perform
that
kind
of
statistically
based
mapping.
You
know
and
then
taking
that
and
using
it
to
inform
you
know
different
projects
that
we
were
working
on
at
a
you
know
at
a
within
the
school
within
the
program.
N
But
I
do
have
some
as
some
experience
just
kind
of
trying
to
identify
places
where
you
need
to
combine
existing.
You
know
whether
it's
blocks
or
block
groups
into
larger
kind
of
geographic
units
to
be
able
to
you
know,
look
at
look
at
what
criteria
look
at
what
what
what's
statistical
story,
those
different
combinations
might
show.
N
So
you
really
gain
that
firsthand
experience
and
I'm
also
very
much
an
avid
cyclist
and
I
think
that's
a
a
way
of
seeing
and
exploring
the
city
that
you
don't
always
get
when
you're
driving
you're
driving,
you
tend
to
take
the
same
path
to
go
to
your
destination
and
back
and
when
I
go
out
for
rides
it's
more.
I
want
to
just
go,
explore
and
see
what's
out
there
and
so
through
that
I've
really.
N
B
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that,
mr
carey.
Any
other
questions
for
mr
carey.
No,
and
so
again,
thank
you
for
your
interest.
We're
getting
some
pretty
good
good
folks
here,
so
we're
I'm,
I'm
really
liking.
Actually,
I'm
loving
it
you're
engaged
you
you
have
the
skill
set
and
you
you've
been
around,
which
is
which
is
all
all
helpful,
so
you'll
be
a
you
know,
an
asset
you
know
to
this
to
this
process.
B
N
I
mean,
I
think,
the
one
that
that
councilman
howie
mentioned
about
the
the
kind
of
time
commitment
was
my
biggest
question
and
sort
of
an
understanding
of
of
what
that
would
look
like.
I
guess
the
other
question
I
would
have
is
how
much
of
this
work
is.
Is
the
commission
operating
independently
and
how
much
is
there
going
to
be
support
from
you
know?
I
don't
know
if
it
would
be
city
staff
or
council
staff.
What
what's
the
kind
of
nature
of
that
that
set
up.
B
Right
you
work
pretty.
You
know.
I
wasn't
here
the
last
time,
but
I've
had
conversations
with
my
predecessor
and
it's
you're
independent.
We
can
get
some
folks
to
assist
you.
It
wouldn't
be
council
staff
and
again
really
the
the
job
that
lies
ahead
really
depends
on
how
much
the
data
or
the
population
has
shifted
from
the
existing
wards.
You
know
what
the
difference
is
and
that's
where
the
fixes
and
movement
is
going
to
take
place
around
those
areas
where
the
population
shifted.
B
So
but
it's
it's
independent
and
you
guys
understanding
six
month
process.
You
set
your
meetings
once
the
group
convenes
you,
you
kind
of
work
through
this
stuff
because
you're
supposed
to
be
independent
and
give
us
a
product
that,
in
the
end
we
can,
we
can
kind
of.
We
can
sign
off
on.
If
we,
you
know,
agree
with
it.
So,
okay.
J
N
B
Right
so,
while
we're
doing
interviews
today
and
we're
doing,
interviews
on
the
22nd,
probably
have
a
you
know
we're
it's
supposed
to
be
a
nine-member
committee
or
commission
we're
working
through
and
trying
to
get
the
best
possible
applicants.
If
we
have
to
we'll
we
might
have
to
you
know
con.
You
know,
extend
the
process
to
get
more
folks,
but
we're
definitely
trying
to
get
through
these
first
two
sessions
of
interviews
and
put
and
get
people
on
and
get
started.
B
J
H
B
B
Very
good,
pretty
good
good
to
see
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
for
your
interest.
You're
you're,
of
course
we're
doing
reapportionment,
trying
to
redraw
the
ward
lines
and
again
you
always
step
up.
I
I
like
that.
I
I
really
appreciate
that,
and
I'm
I'm
sure
the
community
does
also
so
we're
going
through
getting
applicants
to
express
why
they
want
to
be
a
part
of
this
and
then
we'll
the
council.
I
Great,
I
have
my
letter
right
in
front
of
me,
and
so
I
think
I
pretty
much
put
it
out
there.
I
love
the
city
of
albany,
I
know
the
city
of
albany,
I
know
what
it
takes
to
vote.
I
know
you
know
like
minutia
like
where
poles
are
and
why
they're
there
and
when
they
move
and
crossing
central
avenue
and
the
north
end
of
town
and
the
south
end
of
town-
and
you
know
I
I
thought
I'd
be
funny
and
tell
you.
I
I
also
believe
in
equity
and
justice
and
neighborhoods,
and
that
they
mean
something
and
that
when
you
start
to
cut
and
paste
and
make
mishmash
you
lose
neighborhoods.
You
lose
support
for
your
your
next-door
neighbor.
By
way
of
example,
the
people
across
the
street
from
me
who
take
care
of
me
and
I
take
care
of
them,
we're
not
in
the
same
election,
district
or
and-
and
you
know,
and
so
you
know,
we
keep
neighbor
and
that's
a
basic,
and
so
I
know
that.
I
But
I
don't
know
you
know
people
make
decisions
and,
but
I
know
the
flavor
of
neighborhoods
and
I
know
how
important
that
is,
and
so
that's
really
why
I
want
to
do
it.
I
think
it's
important
to
step
up
civically
when
you
can
and
I
can
it's
not
a
long-term
huge
right,
we're
not
running
a
marathon.
We
have
to
take
care
of
business
and
right
now.
I
have
that
time.
B
C
Hi
dale,
how
are
you
hi
deb
good?
Thank
you.
I
just
wonder
if
you
could
kind
of
touch
on
your
background
professionally
and
how
that
you
think
that
that
would
inform
the
way
that
you
would
view
reapportionment.
What
do
you
think
would
be
the
what
would
be
some
of
your
primary
concerns
or
that
you'd.
I
Be
yeah
got
it,
I
think,
from
a
professional
standpoint
and
what
I've
learned
over
the
years
is
communication
and
really
informing
the
citizenry
about
the
process,
bringing
it
to
the
people
not
saying.
Oh,
you
know
making
that
effort
and
certainly
megan.
You
know
I'm
no
stranger
to
people
asking
difficult
questions.
You
know
if
you're
looking
for
a
professional,
you
know
response
in
in
in
that
arena,
but
really
engaging
all
sorts
of
people
who
actually
make
it
to
this
day.
I
You
know
we
we're
still
connected,
and
you
know
and
and
do
some
work
together,
and
so
that's
the
other
piece.
It's
relationships
right.
You
know
you
know,
people
have
have
stepped
up
as
much
as
it's
been
difficult
at
times
and
but
you
know,
and
and
forming
those
and
keeping
those
connections
open,
and
so
that
I
learned
that
every
single
day
you
know
it
being
in
the
community
and
serving
the
community
and
remembering
that's
what
I
do
is
I
serve
the
people
and
and
that's
the
same
mindset.
I
You
know
when
I
served
on
the
charter
commission
and-
and
that
was
my
first
experience-
it's
dry,
but
it
is
critically
important
to
bring
that
to
the
people
and
make
like
an
understanding
of
how
things
work.
I
think
you
turn
on
the
tv-
and
I
also
from
a
you
know
that
grassroots
side,
you
know,
I
always
think
local,
I
mean
you
know
global
act,
local.
You
turn
the
tv
on.
There
are
issues
that
impact
local
people,
and
this
is
one
of
them
right,
redistricting
reapportionment.
H
I
A
that's
a
great
question,
and
so
I
you
know,
while
I
was
waiting,
I
like
just
googled
maps
and
so
right
on
your
on
the
albany
city
website
right.
I
look
up
ward
15
because
I
knew
you'd
be
in
the
room
tom
and
I'm
a
little
familiar
with
it
right,
and
so
I
didn't
realize
that
there
was
this
information
that's
available
and
I'm
looking.
There's
the
population
breakdown,
how
old
the
people
in
the
world
are,
which
is
is
also
critical
and
so
to
your
question
megan.
I
You
know
that
was
telling
to
me.
I
also
know
from
just
personal,
you
know:
passion,
I've
looked
at
ward
maps
and
I
know
some
of
the
election
districts
are
vacant
in
there.
So
then
I
won
not
necessarily
in
the
15th,
although
I
you
know
but
they're
you
know,
and
so
how
do
you
balance
that?
And
so
I
didn't
realize
until
I
started
looking
tonight,
that
that
is
a
treasure
trove
and
certainly
can
go
deeper
with
other
richer
data
sources,
I'm
sure
to
balance.