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Discussed Local Law F of 2021 & Local Law G of 2021
A
Okay,
we
have
a
quorum
present
myself
and
let
me
say
here
alfredo
michael
bryan,
I
saw
a
second
ago
andy
and
jenny
farrell,
so
I'd
like
to
call
the
order.
The
meeting
of
the
may
13th
meeting
of
the
law,
buildings
and
coach
committee
and
tonight
we'll
be
taking
up
two
two
proposed
local
laws:
local
f,
which
is
the
prohibition
of
eviction
without
good
cause
and
the
other
one
is
local
law
g
which
refers
to
power
to
chief
of
building
official
to
act
in
emergencies.
A
A
A
C
All
right,
oh
and
mr
kimbrough
is
here
just
so
that
way
we
have
mr
kimbrough
miss
faye
he's
here
I
apologize.
My
dog
is
crying.
D
D
A
Oh-
and
I
do
want
to
mention
that
council
member
also
inane,
told
me
he
would
not
be
available
this
evening-
he's
involved
in
students
moving
out
in
his
ward
tonight
and
I
guess,
there's
submissions.
So
he
asked
me
to
relay
that.
E
Oh
thank
you
for
having
me
I
would
like
to
speak
to
you.
Are
we
speaking
about
good
cause?
Is
this
the
good
cause
portion?
Yes,
yes,
okay
again,
thank
you
for
having
me
I've
been
a
property
owner
for
over
30
years.
I've
been
in
albany
actually
is
where
I
started,
and
I
do
appreciate
everyone
on
the
common
council
doing
the
best
that
you
can
for
this
city,
because
I
love
albany.
E
However,
I
I
also
recognize
as
a
property
owner,
and
especially
I'm
in
I'm
in
one
of
the
toughest
areas,
I'm
in
the
ghetto.
I
I
deal
with
drugs
gangs
guns,
you
name
it.
I've
worn,
bulletproof,
vests,
letting
the
police
in
for
a
bust
in
my
house
to
women
prostituting
themselves
telling
me
it's
the
only
way
they
can
feed
their
children.
E
To
tell
me
who
the
length
of
time
and
what
decision
I
can
make
to
rent
to
someone
and
then,
if
I
feel
it's
the
end
of
the
rainbow
and
it's
just
not
working
for
whatever
that
reason,
then
I
have
to
go
to
court
pay
an
attorney
to
defend
my
rights
that
come
with
my
property,
that
that's
not
acceptable
and-
and
I
don't
consent
to
any
of
this,
I
will
never
consent
on
my
property
rights
being
taken.
E
There
have
been
an
awful
lot
of
abuse
with
property
rights
over
the
years,
and
this
is
just
this
is
just
the
icing
on
the
cake,
and
I
said
this
before
the
new
york
state
legislature
voted
this
down.
They
wouldn't
even
entertain.
It
said
it
was
not
good
for
new
york
state
why
albany
is
working
with
rebecca
gerard
to
back
door.
It
in
the
tenant
unions,
I
think,
is
shameful.
E
I
do,
and
I
don't
I'm
afraid
that
you
folks
you're
going
to
lose
your
city
you're,
going
to
lose
your
city,
because
people
like
me
we're
not
going
to
we're
not
going
to
stay
you're
going
to
end
up
with
landlords
who
don't
care
you're,
going
to
end
up
with
tenants
who
can't
be
removed.
That
aren't
good
for
the
neighborhood
they're,
not
a
good
fit,
and
you
say
oh
well,
there's
things
that
you
can
do
to
a
victim.
No,
you
know
what
there
is
30.
C
A
C
F
F
H
Hi
thanks
for
for
organizing
this
everyone,
I'm
a
landlord-
and
you
know
this
whole
name
of
this
new
law.
Good
cause
eviction.
Honestly,
that's
not
an.
H
Name
really,
the
the
point
of
this
legislation
is
tendency
for
life
and
and
that's
where
it's
it's
damaging
to
properties.
You
know
landlords
have
to
live
with
tenants
that
they
don't
have
the
option
to
not
renew
the
lease,
and
you
know
and
that's
an
important
option
that
landlords
need
to
have.
You
know
it's
how
they
improve
their
their
apartments,
but
you
know
I
would
like
to
take
a
quick
detour
to
the
the
statewide
housing
and
tenant
protection
act
that
was
passed.
H
You
know
two
years
ago
now
everything
that's
listed
in
this
law,
all
10
of
the
reasons
for
quote-unquote
good
cause
eviction.
Those
already
exist
in
law.
So
there's
honestly,
no
reason
for
those
to
be
in
here.
You
know
some
people
have
raised
the
the
issue
of
landlords,
not
renewing
in
in
retaliation
for
tenants
reporting
them.
You
know
for
code
violations,
yeah
that
exists
in
the
housing
and
tenant
protection
act
of
2019..
H
Has
anyone
really
looked
at
that
law?
Yeah,
that's
something!
Everyone
on
the
council
should
be
looking
at.
You
know
that's
already
in
in
the
law
and-
and
you
know
the
at
the
end
of
the
day.
This
is
just
gonna,
be
an
investment
killer
if
you've
got
to
live
with
the
tenant
and
the
you
know
the
rent
is
below
market.
H
Well,
what's
the
incentive
to
really
improve
that
that
property
and
make
it
a
a
more
attractive
place
to
live,
you
know,
and
so
that
is,
and
by
the
way
everyone
talks
about
an
eviction
crisis.
H
Where
are
the
statistics
showing
how
many
people
were
invicted
or
evicted
in
2019
do
do
any?
Does
anyone
have
those
statistics
showing
what
the
2019
evictions
looked
like
relative
to
2018
when
those
protections
were
not
in
place?
H
I
haven't
heard
that
statistic
quoted
in
all
of
these
council
meetings.
Now,
what
are
the
actual
eviction
numbers?
And
you
know
why
is
that
a
crisis?
Look
when
when
landlords
have
to
evict
tenants,
it's
been
10
years
since
I
had
to
to
evict
one.
Thank
god
everybody
loses
we.
We
don't
want
to
evict
people,
you
know,
but
we
need
the
ability
to
do
that.
H
If
you
know
if
things
are
going
the
wrong
way
and
that's
not
always
related
necessarily
to
you
know,
to
violating
the
lease
you
know,
tenants
can
be
difficult
to
deal
with.
You
know
working
with
you
and
you
know
in
how
you
manage
the
property.
So
you
know
those
are
my
my
talking
points.
Thank
you.
G
I
see
that
louis
vuitton.
J
Hi
yeah,
my
name,
is
elise
roldan.
Yes,
I
am
a
senior
planner
at
the
city
of
albany
planning
and
development
department,
but
I'm
speaking
today,
just
as
a
resident
of
the
south
end
on
regard
with
regards
to
a
good
cause,
eviction.
C
J
So
what
I
wanted
to
say,
essentially
a
good
cause
eviction,
I
believe,
is
necessary
in
order
for
us
to
be
equitable
to
our
communities
that
are
most
in
need.
Historic
disinvestment
in
our
vulnerable
black
indigenous
and
people
of
color
communities
were
due
to
racist
housing.
J
Policies
of
of
previous
administrations
and
albany
participated
in
that
administration
of
policy
that
was
racist
and
and
already
just
within
a
few
minutes
of
listening
to
this,
I'm
hearing
racist
dog
whistles
already
coming
out
about
being
in
a
ghetto
about
having
people
who
all
live
there
in
perpetuity
not
being
able
to
kick
them
out.
You
know
losing
the
city.
You
know
this
kind
of
language
is
very
damaging
to
people
of
color,
it's
very
harmful,
and
this
just
speaks
to
how
the
racist
policies
continue
to
be.
J
You
know
administered
today,
whether
it's
overtly
or
covertly-
and
this
is
one
of
the
ways
that
it
has
been
happening
covertly
so
when,
when
I,
when
I'm
thinking
about
good
cause
eviction,
I'm
looking
into
the
policy
I'm
thinking
about
this
as
a
process
of
revisiting
our
policies
examining
where
they
came
from
what
their
genesis
was
and
asking
ourselves
how
we
can
do
better
when
we
hear
comments
like
we've
just
heard
just
now,
and
if
you
don't
ask
yourself
if
you're
not
thinking
to
yourself.
J
How
is
this
is
this
coming
off
as
a
little
bit
racist?
If
that
doesn't
it
doesn't
ring
in
your
head,
then
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
we
still
need
to
do
on
our
policies
here.
So
I'm
just
speaking
out
here,
because
I
don't,
I
feel
I
think
it's
very
important,
that
our
communities
are
represented,
that
we
are
not
lost
and
our
value
is
further
diminished
by
having
an
ability
to
create
a
sense
of
community
be
taken
away.
J
I
think
that
there
is
more
than
one
way
to
build
a
community
home
ownership
is
one
way
and
the
the
new
dl
era
saw
a
lot
of
white
residents,
be
able
to
build
that
generational
wealth,
but
our
black,
indigenous
and
people
of
color
communities
have
always
been
denied
that
right
through
overt
and
covert
methods.
J
This
is
a
step
in
the
right
direction
to
being
able
to
afford
our
communities
the
ability
to
build
our
own
communities
and
have
a
say
in
the
way
our
city
is
run,
and
I
hope
that
you
will
consider
that
in
considering
good
cause
eviction.
Thank
you.
C
I'm
sorry
miss
pusitary.
This
is
not
the
time
for
for
back
and
forth.
C
E
K
Hello,
my
name
is
kristin
copper.
I
work
for
united
tenants
of
albany
over
on
orange
street,
and
I'm
also
here
as
a
local
documentary
filmmaker.
I
support
both
local
laws.
F
and
g.
I
believe
they
will
make
positive
changes
for
albany.
Good
crowds
will
help
tenants,
feel
safe
in
reporting,
housing
and
safety
concerns.
Right
now,
tenants
are
afraid
to
speak
up
about
issues
and
fear
of
retaliation
from
their
landlords.
K
Our
neighbors
are
living
with
leaking
ceilings,
broken
locks,
cracked
windows,
infestations,
I've
seen
these
things
first
hand
and
I've
filmed
these
conditions
for
my
films,
you
know
nobody
wants
to
live
like
that,
but
our
neighbors
are
scared
to
report
these
atrocious
living
conditions
in
fear
of
receiving
a
retaliatory
eviction
notice,
and
these
retaliations
do
happen.
K
I
once
interviewed
an
albany
tenant
for
one
of
my
documentaries
who
had
a
leak
in
her
ceiling
where
water
was
dripping
down
onto
her
kitchen
table.
She
asked
her
landlord
to
fix
it.
They
refused
so
she
reached
out
to
code
enforcement
for
help
code
enforcement
came
out,
filed
a
report
and
immediately
the
next
day
the
landlord
served
her
an
eviction
notice.
This
is
why
we
need
good
cause,
so
tenants,
you
know,
can
report
these
issues
and
feel
safe
doing
so.
K
Local
law
fng
are
solutions
that
will
help
create
livable
neighborhoods
when
people
can
find
decent
and
stable
housing
in
albany.
We'll
have
improvements
in
all
areas
of
our
community.
We'll
have
neighbors
who
want
to
raise
families
here
who
want
to
create
homes
here
who
want
to
invest
in
our
schools
and
local
businesses.
K
F
L
Hello
good
evening,
I've
I
came
to
speak
specifically
on
a
topic,
but,
having
heard
some
of
the
notation
or
testimony
already,
I
just
wanted
to
touch
on
a
few
things.
Someone
mentioned
earlier
that
the
2019
housing
and
antenna
stabilization
act
at
the
state
level
brought
forth
a
lot
of
these
protections
that
are
already
being
brought
out
here
as
the
need
for
this
new
legislation,
because
renters
are
unprotected.
But
this
narrative
is
not
true.
L
I
understand
that
there
are
certain
bad
actors
that
exist
both
on
the
standpoint
of
people
who
are
renting
and
from
the
standpoint
of
people
who,
particularly
you
know,
particularly
out
of
town
landlords,
that
you
know
don't
take
care
of
their
property
for
reasons
we
don't
know,
and
I
think
it's
important
that
if
our
goal
here
is
stabilize
neighborhoods
and
affordable
housing.
L
L
M
L
The
reason
for
that
failure
is
because
we've
been
unable
to
effectively
manage
our
properties,
and
so,
while
some
of
this
is
inflicted
by
the
coveted
moratorium
measures,
other
problems
are
afflicted
by
the
2019
stabilization
act.
The
proposed
law
only
goes
a
little
bit
further
in
certain
areas.
One
area
is
in
the
five-month
renewal
notification
that
is
rescinded
by
the
resident.
It's
not
reasonable,
because
it
is
essentially
agreeing
to
a
perpetual
lease.
L
L
When,
when
you
look
at
this
consumer
price
index
fees,
for
example,
right
now,
staple
food
products
are
up
between
nine
and
eleven
percent
depending
on
category
insurance
is
up
nine
percent.
Okay,
employment
costs
are
up
somewhere
around
25
percent.
Yet
what
we're
proposing
is
that
a
property
owner
would
be
regulated
by
the
city
in
terms
of
what
he
or
she
might
find
to
be
a
reasonable
rent
increase
over
time.
I
think
that's
working
backwards
when
you
consider
that,
in
order
to
maintain
properties
and
provide
a
high
standard
of
living,
the
property
owner
needs.
L
Okay,
thank
you
in.
In
short,
we
all
have
the
same
goals
here,
but
it
is
not
a
good
idea
to
penalize
law
abiding
good,
acting
property
owners
with
blanket
restrictions
that
may
help
with
some
cases
that
are
unique
and
or
egregious
where
property
owners
have
acted
irresponsibly.
I
think
that
is
important,
that
code
and
city
officials
punish,
and
otherwise
you
know,
cure
those
bad
actors,
but
not
to
make
it
at
the
expense
of
all
the
other
good
actors.
Thanks
for
your
time,.
N
Hi,
my
name
is
reverend
peter
cook
and
I'm
a
homeowner
in
the
city
of
albany.
I
live
in
district
6
and
I
also
serve
as
executive
director
of
the
new
york
state
council
of
churches,
which
advocates
for
just
housing
policies
and
property
restoration
in
communities
in
every
part
of
new
york
state.
N
N
Good
cause
eviction
is
one
positive
step.
We
can
take
to
encourage
landlords
to
keep
up
their
property
and
not
cause
economic
instability
to
tenants
or
themselves
landlords
by
precipitously
being
able
to
evict
people,
especially
if
those
residents
complain
about
maintenance
issues
which
make
their
dwellings
unhealthy
or
unlivable.
N
This
is
for
other
landlords,
many
who
don't
even
live
here,
who
are
not
doing
what
good
landlords
should
be
doing,
and
this
is
directed
at
them,
and
these
folks
should
be
forced
to
keep
up
their
property
and
not
evict
people.
It
also
ensures
that
these
wayward
property
owners
don't
hurt
the
property
values
of
the
vast
majority
of
landlords
who
do
keep
up
their
property
and
are
treating
their
tenants
well.
N
O
Thanks
good
evening,
so
regarding
good
cause,
personally,
my
tenants
are
my
neighbors,
most
of
whom
I
now
consider
friends.
I
wouldn't
dream
of
evicting
them
for
any
reason
that
doesn't
involve
a
good
cause,
and
even
in
that
case
it
would
be
an
extreme
last
resort.
O
I
think
a
lot
of
the
small
landlords
despise
eviction
court
as
much
as
our
tenants
do
it's
expensive
to
hire
a
lawyer.
It's
intimidating,
to
go
before
a
judge.
Likewise,
with
release
renewal,
I
cross
my
fingers
that
my
tenants
will
renew
their
lease.
I
think
so
much
of
how
this
is
framed
and
I
think
reverend
cook
framed
it
this
way
and
I
I
would
like
us
to
think
sort
of
beyond
tenants
versus
landlords,
but
the
way
in
which
landlords
re
protect
other
tenants
and
neighbors.
O
So,
let's
say,
for
example,
you
have
a
tenant
who
moves
in
who
seems
like
a
reasonably
nice
guy.
He
pays
his
rent
but
you're
soon
hearing
from
the
female
tenants
who
live
in
the
building
that
he's
making
them
uncomfortable
in
the
laundry
room,
he's
hanging
them
out,
he's
asking
them
personal
questions,
he's
finding
and
following
him
on
social
media,
sending
them
direct
messages.
You've
heard
that
he's
asked
at
least
one
of
them
out.
Women
are
starting
to
complain
to
you
as
the
landlord.
So
what
do
you
do?
You
talk
to
him
about
it?
O
He
dials
it
back,
but
you're,
still
hearing
from
your
female
tenants,
as
well
as
from
neighbors
in
in
in
the
area
that
they're
generally
feeling
uncomfortable
and
unsafe
around
him,
and
some
have
even
moved
out
sooner
than
expected
because
of
this,
a
guy
like
that
affects
the
entire
neighborhood,
so
his
behavior
may
be
creepy,
but
he's
not
technically
violating
any
law.
Your
lease
doesn't
cover
this
because
it's
hard
to
imagine
any
scenario.
You
know
all
these
scenarios
in
advance
when
I
read
about
the
proposed
law.
O
Good
cause
doesn't
apply
here,
he's
always
careful
not
to
be
at
the
level
of
a
true
nuisance,
and
the
question
is
what
it
seems
to
me
that
good
cause
prevents
the
landlord
from
at
that
point,
telling
him
hey
when
your
lease
is
up.
I'd
like
you
to
find
a
new
place
and
you're
ju
in
the
idea
of
an
environment
that
you
would
want
to
create
as
a
landlord
as
a
feminist
as
a
dad
of
two
daughters.
As
a
human
being,
I
would
like
to
retain
the
power
to
be
able
to
deal
with
situations
like
this.
O
That's
a
very
specific
example,
but
I
think
these
types
of
situations
can
abound.
Consider
the
case
of
a
tenant
who
has
a
confederate
flag
in
his
car
and
post
racist
stuff
on
social
media,
which
other
tenants
have
found.
They
say
they
feel
uncomfortable
and
safe.
Are
you
allowed,
as
the
landlord
with
proper
notice
at
the
end
of
his
lease,
to
tell
him
it's
fine
time
to
find
a
new
place
and
what,
if
he
refuses
that?
O
Do
you
then
hire
a
lawyer
and
go
to
eviction
court
and
turn
this
into
a
legal
battle
over
free
speech
and
good
cause
30
seconds,
and
I
want
to
be
clear
for
all
of
our
sakes.
I
hope
we're
not
encountering
too
many
creepy
tenants,
or
certainly
confederate
flags
in
albany,
but
these
basic
problems
here
apply
in
many
situations.
O
I
strongly
encourage
thinking
through
the
unintended
consequences
and
drilling
down
in
more
detail
about
exactly
what
reasons
for
good
cause
may
be
and
what
would
fall
under
what
would
be
a
nuisance.
This
stuff
is
coming.
P
Hi
everybody
I'm
fred,
floss
I've
lived
here
in
albany
for
almost
more
than
10
years.
A
lot
of
my
friends
have
been
very
passionate
about
speaking
about
just
the
you
know,
the
ups
and
downs
of
living
here,
and
I
really
think
that
this
good
cause
eviction
legislation
would
go
a
long
way
in
the
right
direction.
P
It
would
not
solve
everything,
but
it
would
definitely
provide
a
solid
framework
for
helping
to
give
power
back
to
a
lot
of
tenants
who
could
just
be
made
homeless
for
reasons
they
don't
have
the
money
to
fight
back
or
elaborate
on.
As
far
as
statistics
go,
I
mean
in
new
york
state
alone
as
of
january
2019,
an
estimated
like
92
000.
P
New
yorkers
experience
homelessness
on
any
given
day
and
that's
in
2019,
as
of
2021
800
thousand
to
one
million
two
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
new
york
rent
households
in
the
state
aren't
able
to
pay
rent
and
are
at
risk
of
eviction.
This
is
an
epidemic.
This
is
affecting
people
who
do
not
have
the
means
to
live
safely
and
securely,
and
now
would
good
cause
legislation,
make
it
impossible
for
landlords
to
evict
tenants
that
have
problem.
I
don't
think
so.
I
think
good
cause
eviction.
P
You
know
it's
there's
still
plenty
of
room
for
plenty
of
reasons
to
evict
a
tenant
from
their
housing
that
violates
multi
statutes
like
non-payment
of
rent
violating
the
substantial
obligation
of
their
tenancy.
The
tenant
is
committing
or
permitting
a
nuisance.
A
P
P
In
that
case,
and
just
in
terms
of
security,
I
tenants
not
being
able
to
not
test
not
being
evicted,
means
that
there's
a
greater
investment
in
that
community
in
the
neighborhood
to
feel
safe
in
your
own
apartment
and
to
feel
like
you
have
the
support,
a
support
system,
that's
something
that's
a
two-way
street
between
tenants
and-
and
you
know,
owners,
that's
something
that
takes
work
and
that's
something
that
goes
beyond
these
bad
faith.
Actors
cited
in
this
testimony
and
it's
again
it's
as
far
as
a
power
differential
people
having
like
the
sort.
C
L
P
Q
Hi
I'm
kaushik
vijay
kumar,
I'm
speaking
as
both
as
a
homeowner
and
a
renter
homeowner
in
a
different
state
and
renter
in
new
york,
new
york
state.
I
do
believe
the
good
cause
evictions
are.
The
rights
is
the
right
step
in
the
right
direction,
both
as
a
homeowner
and
renter.
I've
seen
the
two
ends
of
it.
Q
As
a
renter.
I've
seen
I've
been
with
landlords
who
do
not
respond
to.
You
have
lived
in
houses
which
had
which
are
molds,
which
had
leaking
ceilings,
and
it
was
almost
impossible
for
landlord
and
it
makes
unsafe
living
it.
It
can
cause
cancer.
You
might,
and
you
have
nowhere
to
go
to
so
good
cause.
Q
Evictions
does
help
the
tenants
who
are
who
are
in
such
dire
need
with
a
way
to
get
help
to
with
a
way
to
move
ahead
and
live
and
live
in
a
safe
environment,
not
only
that
the
good
cause
evictions
were
not
only
help
the
renters,
but
also
the
landlord,
so
that
they
can
provide
a
community
that
people
can
live
in
harmony
when
safety
and
you
invest
in
your
own
community.
Q
So
I
did
hear
comments
where
people
were
talking
about
whether
well,
not
all
tenants
can
be
evicted.
What,
if
you
have
unruly
behavior,
the
bill
does
support
behavior,
where
the
tenant,
if
they
are
unruly,
if
they
are
against
the
comfort
of
the
landlord
or
the
neighboring
occupants,
that
the
tenants
can
be
removed
according
to
the
good
cause
eviction
builder.
So
it
does
support
specific
arguments
where
tenants
are
creating
a
nuisance,
not
only
just
damaging
the
property,
but
also
interfering
with
the
comfort
of
the
landlord
will
be
removed
based
on
the
bill.
Q
Q
It's
going
to
build
a
sense
of
community
harmony
and
a
harmonious
living
for
for
the
people
and
and
nobody
wants
to
leave
a
property
unless
and
until
you
know,
they're
going
to
buy
their
own
property
so
being
evicted
within
a
shock
with
a
short
notice
are
like
a
weak
statement,
but
not
just
the
renters,
but
also
for
the
people
living
in
the
community,
because
you're
living
in
a
sense
of
uncertainty
on
you
today
or
you
have
a
place
to
live,
and
tomorrow
you
might
be
on
the
road,
because
the
rents
went
up
or
the
landlord
decided
decided
to
raise
the
rent
by
30
percent
because
being
a
homeowner.
Q
G
R
It
thank
you
very
much.
My
name
is
gabe
recchio,
I'm
a
resident
of
the
city
of
albany,
and
I'm
here
to
speak
in
support
of
passing
local
law
f.
I
think
that
it's
a
huge
problem
not
having
this
law
in
the
books
in
the
city
of
albany,
for
what's
already
been
mentioned,
that
there
is
a
disincentive
for
tenants
to
stand
up
to
their
property
owners
and
to
address
a
prior
bit
of
testimony
directly.
R
R
I
want
to
also
agree
with
what
kasich
just
said.
I
think
that
where
people
lay
their
heads
at
night
is
a
very
special
and
sacred
place
and
we
have
a
huge
amount
of
renters
throughout
new
york
state
and
throughout
this
community
and
there's
no
reason
that
folks
shouldn't
feel
secure
and
empowered
to
better
their
living
situations
by
working
with
their
property
owners,
and
the
reality
is
that,
right
now
without
local
law,
f
books
in
the
city
of
albany.
That's
just
not
the
case.
R
F
Me
so
from
who
I
have
in
the
queue
versus
what
I
have
listed,
I'm
just
going
to
read
the
names
from
the
list
that
previously
signed
up
stephen
negron.
S
S
S
S
Someone
named
mr
miller
brought
up
a
scenario
about
a
creepy
guy
making
women
uncomfortable
well
unless
his
lease
doesn't
have
a
clause
that
protects
the
peace
of
mind
of
his
other
tenants,
which
every
lease
that
I've
ever
signed
has
had
one.
Then
that
is
very
much
a
reason
that
supports
a
good
cause.
Eviction
albany
has
a
housing
crisis.
S
We
have
deteriorating
properties
and
people
live
in
squalor
and
are
now
asked
to
pay
more
as
opposed
to
what
they
had
to
pay
10
or
15
years
ago.
S
Now,
another
myth
is
saying
that
landlords
wouldn't
be
able
to
raise
their
rents.
Well,
what
we
have
now
is
landlords
that
have
dilapidated
buildings
that
raise
rents
with
no
good
cause.
Good
cause
eviction
would
support
any
landlord
that
invests
in
his
property
and
increases
its
value
to
absolutely
raise
your
rent.
But
if
you
haven't
slum,
you
shouldn't
be
right.
You
shouldn't
be
charging
1200
for
the
people
to
live
in
in
2019,
which
was
pre-covered.
F
S
We
go
over
by
the
golden
rule
of
not
paying
over
or
just
paying
one
third
of
your
income
to
sustain
yourself,
then
we're
dealing
with
rents
that
are
about
seven
hundred
dollars,
the
average
median
rent
in
albany
south
and
the
or
the
ghetto
as
someone
else
referred
to
it
was
it
was
nearly
thirteen
hundred
dollars.
So
in
all
seriousness,
in
all
consciousness,
how
do
we
expect
people
to
live
and
get
by?
And
then
we
also
ask
questions
as
to.
Why
is?
Is
the
violence
up
ticking
in
albany?
S
If
you
think
that
the
raise
and
if
you
think
the
albany
housing
crisis
and
the
violence
aren't
tied
together,
you're
in
for
a
rude
awakening,
because
as
people
find
it
harder
to
get
by
and
harder
to
make
a
living,
they
resort
to
illicit
means.
It's
human
nature.
It
doesn't
matter
what
color
or
demographic
you're
talking
about.
So
I
am
in
strong
support
of
this
bill.
It
is
something
that
albany
is
in
dire
need
of,
and
I
any
good
landlord
would
support
it.
This
is
not
a
anti-landlord
bill.
This
is
an
anti-slumlord
bill.
C
G
C
T
T
I
feel
that
this
local
f
will
definitely
bankrupt
the
the
small
tenant
or
the
landlord,
for
the
simple
reason
is
you're,
putting
the
mom
pops
out
of
business.
We
all
talked
about
good
tenants
there.
I
want
to
tell
you
from
20
from
2020
to
2021.
I
have
not
gotten
a
full
month
rent
out
of
my
tenant.
He
closed
this
business
down
prior
to
the
did
a
shutdown
of
everything
with
this
pandemic
and
I
have
not
got
the
full
month.
Every
month
I
got
to
write
them.
T
I
say
your
rent
is
due
and
so
in
february
I
write
him.
I
says
your
rent
is
due
and
he
writes
me
back
and
it
says
you
know
I'm
saving
for
a
car,
and
that
was
it.
So
you
know
what
happened
for
that
month
and
so
I
says,
you've
got
to
get
a
job
and
he's.
I
said,
I'm
going
to
tell
you
what
the
transportation
you
have
is
no
good
get
transportation.
I
want
to
send
you
to
amsterdam
for
to
be
interviewed
for
a
job,
so
he
finally
did
get
a
transportation.
T
T
So
I
went
beyond
I
called
down
to
the
portal
opening
and
I
was
going
to
talk
to
rick
hendricks,
but
I
talked
to
the
secretary
I
said:
can
you
tell
me
a
little
bit
about
the
350
million
dollar
building
you
have
down
there
and
she
says
yes,
a
an
outside
country
is
going
to
come
in
and
build
a
350
million
dollar
building
and
it
is
going
to
build
a
wind
turbine
bases.
I
said:
well,
how
are
you
going
to
train
everyone
we're
going
to
train
them
over
in
hudson
valley?
T
T
Yes,
she
sends
me
the
information
I
sent
it
to
the
tenant,
never
acknowledged
it,
and
so
now
we're
into
the
month
of
april,
which
I
haven't
gotten
any
rank.
Yet
so
I
write
him
alan,
the
rent
is
due.
He
writes
me
back
and
he
says
you
know
I
had
to
buy
a
car.
It
was.
T
It's
more
than
what
I
anticipated
and
I
have
registration
and
all
these
other
bills.
So
me
as
a
landlord.
Where
do
I
stand?
How
do
I
go
in
this
september
and
pay
my
school
taxes?
How
do
I
pay
my
property
tax
come
january?
If
I
got
a
tenant
that
doesn't
pay,
and
you
tell
me,
I
have
to
have
good
cause
to
a
victim
no
way.
Thank
you
guys.
I
really
definitely
oppose
this.
I
don't
believe
this
law
should
pass.
I
think
it
should
go
by
the
wayside.
Thank
you
very
much.
D
Good
evening,
everyone-
and
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
allow
us
to
speak
this
evening.
I'm
hearing
a
lot
from
tenants
and
tenant
advocates,
as
well
as
landlord
landlord
advocates.
One
person
or
one
party-
that's
not
been
heard
of
heard
from
in
this
matter-
are
homeowners.
We
as
homeowners,
invest
in
this
city.
You
know
where
we
buy
a
home.
We
buy
a
home
with
the
hopes
of
being
there
for
as
long
as
possible.
Sometimes
it's
five
years.
D
Sometimes
it's
ten
years,
I've
known
people
who've
been
in
their
homes
for
50
years
and
more
so
we
are
investing
in
in
albany.
One
of
the
great
things
about
albany
is
the
diversity
of
its
neighborhoods.
Sometimes
we
have
landlords
that
are
in
the
neighborhoods,
who
don't
do
the
right
things.
At
the
same
token,
we
don't
have
tenants
that
do
the
right
things.
D
I
am
opposed
to
this
law
as
it
is
written
not
because
of
the
spirit
of
the
law,
because
I
do
believe
that
landlords
who
are
not
keeping
up
with
their
properties,
who
are
not
making
sure
that
you
know
not
making
sure
that
their
properties
are
in
good
order
and
thus
keeping
up
my
investment
in
this
neighborhood
should
be
should
have
some
repercussions,
but
at
the
same
time,
we
as
homeowners
have
no
say
in
what
tenants
they
put
in
there
and
unless
the
and-
and
we
really
want
to
encourage
10
landlords
to
bring
in
tenants
who
are
going
to
uplift,
the
neighborhood
who's
going
to
be
a
positive
contribution
to
the
neighborhood
and
live
harmoniously
with
the
other
homeowners
who
are
there.
D
I
have,
I
have
been
a
resident
of
albany.
All
of
my
life.
I
grew
up
in
the
south.
End
now
live
in
arbor
hill.
I
have
my
father's
been
here
as
well
as
my
family
for
a
very
long
time
again,
living
in
the
south
end
in
the
arbor
hill,
which
are
two
of
the
economically
most
economically
challenged
areas
in
the
city,
but
I've
invested
in
arbor
hill
because
I
believe
in
its
potential
I
love
my
neighbors.
I
love
my
neighborhood.
D
Unfortunately,
we
as
neighbors
and
homeowners
have
to
deal
with
tenants
who
do
not
feel
the
same
way.
I've
dealt
with
people,
drug
dealing,
I've
in
front
of
my
house,
prostitution
in
front
of
my
house.
I've
dealt
with
all
these
other
people
in
the
middle
of
clinton,
avenue
a
very
busy
street
mind
you
drunk
yelling,
belligerent.
D
You
know
people
grilling
in
front
of
their
in
front
of
their
homes,
which
is
a
fire
hazard
and
with
all
of
these
row
houses.
If
one
house
goes
up
everything.
C
D
Up,
so
I
really
want
you
to
think
about
how
this
affects
owners,
and
please,
please,
please
think
about
allowing
the
not
allowing
having
the
law
give
landlords
who
are
good
landlords,
the
ability
to
get
tenants
out
and
reform
how
this
works,
because
it
affects
everyone,
not
just
tenants,
not
just
landlords
but
homeowners
as
well.
Thank
you.
F
C
I
Got
it
well,
as
I
mentioned
at
last,
tues,
tuesday,
monday's
meeting
or
tuesday
it
would.
It
would
help
if
the
two
sides
got
together,
because
there
are
excellent
points
on
both
sides
and
some
of
the.
But
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
just
kind
of
try
to
answer
some
of
the
issues
that
the
landlords
have
with
this
bill.
I
I
I
Let's
see,
statistics
yeah.
G
I
Is
something
we
could
have
we,
someone
should
have
gotten
out
in
the
beginning.
United
tenants,
of
course,
has
these
statistics
and
we
should
we
should
get
them
out
there.
There
have
been
a
lot
of
evictions,
a
lot
of
unfair
ones,
marshall's
creepy
guy
and
the
racist
guy.
I
he's
got
some
good
points.
H
I
I
think
that
in
in
decent
situations
that
these
things
can
be
worked
out,
but
I
don't
have
the
time
to
think
about
it
as
long
as
marshall
did
so,
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna,
wait
on
that
one.
Lastly,
yeah
tenancy
for
life,
the
rights
of
a
property
owner
people
have
a
right
to
stable
housing.
I
The
right
to
stable
housing
is
not
written
as
clearly
in
the
law.
In
fact,
it's
been
written
into
the
law
opposing
stable
housing,
it's
not
written
as
clearly
as
the
rights
of
tenants
as
rights
of
landlords.
I
think
that
what
this
bill
does
is
even
the
score
a
little
bit.
I
don't
think
it's
as
damaging
to
the
small
landlord
as
as
it's
as
it
may
seem.
The
pandemic
is
damaging
to
the
small
landlord.
That's
for
sure
vince
is
a
good
guy.
He
doesn't.
I
In
the
bind
that
he's
in
I
I
I
would
say
that
the
bind
is
caused
by
the
pandemic
and
not
by,
and
that
you
know
defeating
this
law
is
not
going
to
help
a
guy
like
like
vince.
Thank
you.
That'll
do.
U
Yeah
good
evening,
thank
you.
So
I'm
strongly
opposed
to
local
law
f.
U
Frankly,
the
proposed
law
is
really
tantamount
to
theft
of
my
property
by
the
city,
in
this
case
and
transfer
of
that
property
to
you
know
to
non-owner
tenants,
people
who
have
not
put
in
the
sweat
equity
and
the
investment
required
to
buy,
purchase
and
maintain
a
property.
So
neither
the
city
nor
the
tenants
it
caters
to
in
this
case
really
owns
the
property
I
own,
the
property.
U
So
there
are
no
provisions
in
the
constitution,
my
deed,
nor
my
mortgage
frankly,
that
seed
control
of
my
asset
or
what
I
choose
to
charge
for
as
rent
for
persons,
whom
I
wish
to
lease
it
to
privately
by
mutual
contract
or
agreement
or
consent.
That's.
U
Really
grounds
for
removal
in
section
30-328,
echoing
marshall,
miller's
point,
they
contain
way
too
many
subjective
provisions
leaving
little
to
no
room
for
discretion,
particularly
with
regard
to
the
section
about
nuisance
behavior
once
one
tenant's
normal
behavior,
you
know,
may
be
disrespectful
or
threatening
as
interpreted
by
somebody
else
or
differently
by
any
any
other
individual
observer,
so
it's
very
subjective.
U
U
Months
notice
to
you
know
for
a
prospective
termination
of
a
lease
agreement
without
knowing
that
or
knowing
in
fact,
that
the
tenant
can
at
any
time
refute
that
or
not
you
know,
refuse
to
consent.
This
is
not
their
property
and
there's
a
lot
of
rhetoric
about
you
know
who
owns
or
whose
property,
whose
housing
this
really
is
well,
if,
if
someone's
put
in
the
investment
to
purchase
and
maintain
a
property,
well
it
belongs
to
that
person.
U
G
That's
john
caverty.
F
He
was
in
there
and
the
last
one
I
have
for
public
to
speak
is
deborah
williams,.
M
M
I,
like
the
point
that
somebody
else
brought
up
recently
that
a
situation
like
a
guy
being
creepy
around
the
neighborhood,
that's
extremely
subjective,
and
anybody
can
call
somebody
else
creepy
what
if
there's
a
racist
living
there
and
he
finds
the
black
guy
creepy
he's
just
gonna,
keep
calling
him
that
until
he
gets
evicted
and
so
we're
basically
saying
that
we're
gonna
give
people
absolutely
no
protections
in
that
sense,
then,
at
the
same
time
somebody
else
was
asking
earlier
for
statistics,
5
000
evictions
per
year
in
albany
pre-covet.
M
That
is
a
lot
of
evictions,
and
when
you
have
a
city,
when
you
have
a
community
where
5
000
people
are
being
evicted
every
year,
that
is
a
lot
of
destabilization
destabilizing
going
on.
So
people
need
stability
to
find
jobs
to
keep
jobs.
Students
need
stability,
so
they
can
stay
in
the
same
school
as
all
of
their
friends
and
not
have
to
move
to
a
completely
different
district
every
other
year.
So
when
you
have
a
situation
where
people's
lives
are
being
uprooted
like
this,
nobody
can
have
a
sense
of
home.
M
You
don't
get
a
sense
of
community
poverty
becomes
worse
and
guess
what
that's?
When
you
end
up
with
this
crime
happening
everywhere
with
you
know,
some
landlords
feeling
like
they
need
to
wear
a
bulletproof
vest
to
walk
around
their
neighborhood
guess
what
that's
a
result
of
poverty
and
evictions
for
no
reason
arbitrary
evictions,
which
is
what
we're
against
here,
only
make
that
worse.
M
So,
if
you
really
care
about
the
the
value
of
your
property
of
your
home
of
your
neighborhood,
if
you
truly
want
investments
to
be
coming
into
albany,
you
should
be
doing
whatever
you
can
to
lessen
poverty
in
the
area.
That
means
taking
care
of
tenants
taking
care
of
the
people
in
albany,
so
that
you
know
you
don't
no
longer
have
to
deal
with
that
kind
of
crime
and
good
landlords
want
this
bill.
M
I
know
many
landlords,
small
landlords
and
bigger
landlords
who
want
this
bill
because
there's
an
epidemic
of
blight
and
dilapidated
housing
across
albany,
because
the
current
system,
we
have
incentivizes
landlords
to
evict
their
tenants,
rather
than
fix
their
properties.
So
if
you
truly
want
properties
to
get
better
across
albany
and
have
albany
be
a
more,
you
know
inviting
place
for
investments
and
businesses
to
come
in,
then
you
want
good
cause
eviction,
so
these
properties
are
actually
being
maintained.
M
Tenants
actually
have
a
right
to
stay,
and
none
of
this
some
landlords
are
also
making
30
seconds
like
this.
Is
the
state
coming
in
and
taking
away
all
of
your
property
rights?
That's
not
happening
whatsoever.
You
still
have
the
right
to
that
property.
You
can
still
evict
your
tenants.
You
just
need
a
good
reason
to
do
so
and
last
that
comment
somebody
made
about
a
confederate
flag
in
their
car.
It's
funny
because
I
was
going
to
say
the
same
thing
you
could.
What?
M
C
J
V
Always
I
I
have
posters
too.
I
want
to
thank
everybody
for
their
comments
and
we'll
try
to
keep
it
brief
and
add
on.
I
am.
C
V
Is
that
the
problem,
I'm
sorry
about
that?
Okay,
can
you
hear
me
now?
Yes,
okay,
so
I
oppose
this.
I'm
one
of
the
good.
V
V
Being
stuck
you're,
never
gonna
get
that
money
back
from
tenants
who
you
can't
evict.
Okay,
twenty
thousand
dollars,
for
example,
I've
seen
people.
You
know
that
that
far
in
debt.
So
hopefully
you
can
hear
me,
but
I
I
don't
appreciate,
like
my
choices
and
tenants
and
and
getting
rid
of
them
or
renewing
the
release
being
dictated
by
somebody.
I
just
don't
think
that's
right,
it
could
be
costly
and
nobody
wins.
V
I
think
we
should
work
on
a
better
solution.
First
of
all-
and
I
also
you
know-
I
I've
had
very
few
problems
and
when
I've
had
had
to
get
somebody
a
dispute,
it's
very
challenging
and
it's
just
nobody
wins.
So,
as
far
as
that
goes,
I
have
very
strict
guidelines
as
a
landlord.
I
want
to
contribute
to
the
city,
and
I
want
to
make
a
good
living.
V
So
please
reconsider
this.
I
would
be
happy
to
work
with
somebody
about
making
this
beneficial
for
both
sides
and
that's
really
what
I
wanted
to
hear.
I
also
was
a
little
offended
with
luis's
comment
about
the
racism,
because
I
worked
very
hard
to
get
my
properties
and
I'm
way
in
debt
and
I'm
making
a
contribution
to
albany,
I'm
good
for
the
economy
and
I'm
constantly
putting
money
back
in
and
making
albany
a
better
place
to
live
and
a
good
place
for
stu
people
to
live.
Thank
you.
C
Mr
chair,
I
there
are,
there
were
several
people
who
are
signed
up,
but
I
do
not
see
them
here.
I
won't.
A
Want
to
open
up
to
anybody
else
at
this
point,
sir,
any
longer.
Okay,
we've
given
an
hour
of
comment-
and
I
believe
we
have
a
couple
of
other
pieces
to
take
before
us
on
top
of
this
okay.
So
why
don't
we
move
ahead
and
and
opening
up
questions
to
members
of
the
committee?
First
and
then
other
council
members,
you
see
michael
bryan,
your
hands
up
joe.
W
Can
I
can
I
take
a
moment
to
go
over
the.
W
W
X
X
Can
you
guys
hear
me
this
way
as
well?
Yes,
yes,
so,
okay,
I
apologize.
I
have
internet
issues
and
sometimes
when
I
speak,
I
lose
the
internet.
So
that's
why
I
use
my
phone
as
a
backup,
but
that
also
creates
echo
issues.
Thank
you,
joe
for
giving
me
time
just
to
go
over
the
bill.
I
it's.
I
understand
it's
a
very
controversial
bill.
I
understand
the
emotions
on
both
sides.
X
I
am
a
landlord
myself.
I
own
three
properties
in
the
city
of
albany
that
I
went
to
unit
I
live
in
the
two
units
myself.
I
know
the
the
struggle
of
small
landlords.
I
bought
my
first
property
in
2006
working
at
the
ymca,
making
thirty
thousand
dollars.
X
So
I
know
how
hard
it
is
to
make
your
mortgage.
I
know
how
it
is
to
save,
to
put
everything
you
have
to
invest
in
your
next
little
property
and
then
save
and
build
to
invest
in
your
other
properties.
I
get
it.
I
get
the
sacrifice
that's
made
by
landlords.
I
get
that
this
has
been
a
hard
year
for
landlords,
it
has
been
and
we
were
not
eligible
for
any
ppp.
X
We
we
we've
been
asked
to
take
on
a
heavy
burden
and
we
have
not
really
gotten
much
relief
yet,
and
I
get
that
I
get
that
and
I
get.
I
understand
why
there's
so
much
fear
from
landlords
about
this,
but
I
want
to
go
over
the
bill
because
I
feel
like
there's
a
lot
of
feeding
of
that
fear.
X
So
you
have
property
rights
and
you
have
rights
of
association.
This
bill
does
not
affect
owner
occupied
properties
if
it's
less
than
four
units.
So
if
you
live
in
a
property,
that's
that
you
rent
out
a
second
unit.
This
does
not
affect
you.
You
have
rights
of
association,
those
are
your
property
rights
being
held
up,
so
this
does
not
affect
you.
You
want
to
make
that
very
clear
for
others
who
have
non-owner
occupied
properties
like
myself,
I
own
two
other
properties
I
don't
live
in.
X
Those
are
the
ones
that
are
affected
by
these
policies.
So
I
want
to
be
very
clear.
So
when
people
are
saying
property
rights,
you
still
have
your
property
rights
of
the
home
that
you
own
and
occupied,
but
when
you
become
a
landlord
and
you
rent,
non-property
occupied
phones,
there
are
always
stronger
regulations
and
all
my
real
estate,
friends
and
all
my
landlords
know
that
you
know
that.
So
I
respect
that
and
I
and
I
respect
that
that
we
in
this
legislation
are
also
respecting
them.
X
As
far
as
this
being
prevents,
this
is
not
what's
going
on
because
of
the
pandemic.
I
want
to
make
that
very,
very
clear.
The
pandemic
is
a
one
in
a
generation
situation
and
it's
situation.
I
hope
my
son
never
sees
so
it's
a
one
in
a
hundred
year
situation
and
the
regulations
have
been
put
on
landlords
regulations
that
are
going
to
expire,
just
like
the
mass
mandate
is
expiring.
X
So
will,
though,
and
for
many
landlords
and
depending
on
what
side
you're
on
some
people,
feel
that
explanation,
some
people
are
hoping
it
comes
because
there
have
been
people
who
have
abused
it,
and
we
have
to
be
honest
about
that.
We
have
to
have
honest
conversations,
so
we
can
get
to
a
better
place,
so
this
does
not
affect
that.
The
number
one
reason
you
can
even
hey
first
reason
is
not
payment
of
rent.
X
So
if
someone
doesn't
pay
you
your
rent,
that
is
a
good
cause
of
eviction
that
is
there
that
is
protected
under
that,
and
I
know
the
controversial
part
is
the
five
percent,
so
the
five
percent
is
to
protect
individuals
who
are
addressing
concerns
with
landlords
that
landlords
you
don't
want
to
deal
with,
or
just
don't
want
to
deal
with
that
individual
anymore.
So
they
want
to
raise
the
rent
above
five
percent,
with
no
good
cause
to
rent
to
raise
the
rent.
X
However,
in
that
section,
if
you
raise
the
rest,
because
you've
made
improvements
to
the
property
that
is
protected
if
you've
raised
the
rent,
because
markets
is
in
market
changes,
that
is
protected
if
you
raise
the
rent,
because
because
the
activities
that
are
being
done
and
the
conditions
that
have
been
done
in
the
common
area,
so
not
just
in
the
unit
but
in
the
common
area,
for
example,
if
you
added
wash
and
dry-
and
you
had
to
do
plumbing-
you
had
to
put
in
the
machine
that-
and
that
is
a
common
area
improvement
that
it
grounds
for
an
increase.
X
So
even
with
the
protection
of
rent.
It
also
protects
several
of
the
reasons
that
people
are
fearful
of
not
being
able
to
raise
them.
What
it
does
not
protect
is
saying.
I'm
gonna
raise
the
rent
by
four
hundred
dollars
from
a
thousand
dollars
to
1400,
because
you
know
I
think
this
tenant
is
annoying
and
we've
all
had
annoying
tenants.
X
X
So
if,
if
your
landlord,
if
your
tenant
is
calling
you
because
somebody
else
is
playing
the
music
to
two
in
the
morning,
that's
that's
something:
you've
gotta
address,
you've
gotta
address
it,
and
if
you
don't,
then
that's
not
a
good
force
to
evict
the
person
b,
a
violation
of
lease,
so
if
they
violate
your
lease.
So
if
your
lease
says
there's
no
smoking
and
they're
smoking
in
your
property,
you
you
wipe
you
them
off,
you
call
them
and
you
follow
up
with
an
email.
X
So
you
have
it
in
writing
and
if
they
do
it
again,
you
follow
up
again
and
then,
if
they
do
it
again,
then
you
take
them
for
eviction.
And
now
you
have
written
proof
of
multiple
conversations
that
you
have
to
try
to
deal
with
a
lease
violation.
The
problem
some
landlords
have
is
that
they
don't
want
leases
and
those
are
the
landlords
we
need
to
address
the
landlords
that
are
here.
I
guarantee
most
of
them
have
leases.
X
X
Well,
there's
a
little
trick.
If
you
don't
have
a
lease,
you
have
to
only
give
a
dirty
day
notice.
That's
the
trick!
You
don't
have
a
lease.
All
you
have
to
do
is
give
a
dirty
note,
depending
on
the
state.
Loan
in
in
in
2019
depends
on
the
number
of
years
that
they
live,
so
it's
60
or
90
days,
depending
on
the
amount
of
time
that
they've
lived
in
the
property,
but
that's
the
trick.
X
Most
landlords
have
good
leases,
they
have
good
leases
and
if
something
comes
up
in
their
time
of
being
a
landlord
they
added
to
their
lease,
I
mean
there's
something
that
happened
to
me
today
with
my
tenants.
So
I'm
going
to
add
to
my
next
lease
because
you
learn
and
you
grow.
You
know
you
know
and
that's
part
of
being
a
good
landlord.
X
So
it
would
be
the
job
of
the
landlord
to
call
and
have
that
difficult
conversation
with
the
tenant
and
then
follow
up
with
an
email
and
then
follow
up
with
another
email
and
then
follow
up
with
an
email,
other
email
and
then
say
now.
I've
got
good
calls
I've,
given
you
an
opportunity
to
correct
your
errors,
and
that
is
good
costs.
X
Fourth
reason:
so
if
I
commit
a
crime-
and
I
have
to
give
up
my
property,
that
is
a
good
reason
for
eviction
and
there
are
protections
for
tenants
on
that.
But
if,
if,
if
the
landlord
is
in
violation
of
of
civil
or
criminal
penalties,
that
is
a
good
force
for
eviction.
Now,
if
the
tenant
commits
to
crime,
that's
number
five:
if
the
tenant
is
doing
illegal
activities
in
the
home,
so
say:
hey,
I'm
gonna
go
one
casino
nights
every
thursday
come
on
down.
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
Okay,
now
you
still
have
to
follow
the
same
guidelines
that
are
made
up
by
the
state
of
giving
proper
notice
and
we're
going
now
we're
going
with
the
city.
Oh,
if
you
have
a
lease,
you
have
to
wait
for
the
exploration
police.
You
know
you've
got
to
still
honor
your
lease.
However,
that's
a
good
course
for
eviction.
If
you
need
to
have
someone
from
your
family
moving
to
that
unit,
that's
a
good
cause.
X
X
You
know,
stay
an
extra
month
or
two
well,
no,
they
had
the
opportunity
to
renew
the
lease
when
you
offered
that
opportunity
five
months
before
it
was
due,
and
now
you
have
the
five
months
to
go
and
find
a
new
tenant
and
you
found
a
new
tenant.
You
signed
a
contact
with
a
lieutenant,
so
you
land
so
the
tenant
that
wants
to
stay
beyond
the
land
beyond
the
lease.
But
that's
not
a
good.
That's
that's,
not
a
good
cause.
X
So
it's
a
good
course
for
you
to
remove
them,
because
you
gave
them
the
opportunity
you
gave
them
the
opportunity
to
renew
a
lease.
They
refuse
to
renew
the
lease
so
as
long
as
you
have
that
notice
that
you've,
given
them
that
opportunity
five
months
before
the
lease
was
up,
and
that
gives
you
five
months
to
find
somebody
else.
X
X
I
understand
the
fears
I
get
it,
but
I
think
when
we
do
this,
we're
protecting
individuals
who,
whose
landlords
do
not
want
in
their
properties,
for
bad
reasons
and
and
the
perfect
example
I
have
is
you
have
two
good?
You
have
two
tenants
who
pay
you
the
event
both
live
in
the
same
house,
both
pay
you
every
month,
they've
led
no
problem.
X
So
that
is.
That
is
the
basis
of
why
we're
doing
this.
So
I
appreciate
the
time
you've
given
me
sure
I'm
hoping
to
take
any
questions
and-
and
I
know
corporate
counselors
here
to
make
sure
I
don't
say
anything
that
gets
me
in
trouble.
X
And
I
want
to
say
this:
I
appreciate
the
conversation
that
we're
having
from
both
sides,
because
I
get
it
it's
very
personal
to
both
groups,
and
I
I
think
it's
it's
good
that
we're
having
this
discussion
and
I'm
good
and
I'm
glad
and
I'm
glad
we're
having
it
and
able
to
seal
up
any
misunderstandings
or
misinformation.
A
A
You
alfredo-
and
I
don't
know
whether
I
ask
you
or
that
mr
mcgee,
before
I
get
to
you
mike
o'brien-
was
you
might
be
on
the
same
line:
the
state
law,
okay,
the
ten
ten
things
that
you
just
read
how
many
of
them
are
covered
or
not
covered
in
the
state
law.
My
point
being
in
2019
the
state
passed.
This
law
says
one
of
the
strongest
in
the
country,
all
right
so
probably
around
june
in
2019.
So
you
got
six
months
or
probably
eight
months
until
coveted,
so
courts,
weren't,
open,
okay
courts
still
aren't.
W
A
Fully-
and
I
mean
has
that
ever
gotten
a
chance
at
wilson,
we
have
to
you,
know
just
review
everything,
something
we
don't
like.
We
want
something
in
there
and
we're
using
the
foundation
of
10
points
that
are
already
covered
to
do
some
other
things,
the
5
change
or
whatever.
That's
that's.
What
people
are
asking
me.
X
Y
Y
The
difference,
though,
is
that
under
the
current
law
and
under
hstpa,
it
is
still
possible
to
evict
a
tenant
for
no
reason
simply
because
you've
terminated
the
lease
what
this
law
does
essentially
is.
It
puts
the
burden
on
the
person
seeking
an
eviction
ward
in
albany
city
court,
to
articulate
a
good
cause
for
issuing
the
eviction
warrant
and,
again
you
know
a
lot
of
those
good
causes
their
causes.
Y
I
mean
you
can
get
an
eviction
based
on
them
currently,
but
you
still
need
to
articulate
it
if
you
simply
say
that
you're
running
the
lease
so
that
that's
the
difference
here.
A
A
Y
Absolutely
yeah,
I
mean
the
reason
it
needs
to
be
drafted.
This
way
is
because,
if
you
are
going
to
end
that
that
simple
lease
termination
as
the
grounds
for
eviction,
you
need
to
articulate,
you
know
what
you're
replacing
that
with,
and
this
basically
does
that
it
just
it
kind
of
what
this
law
will
do.
Is
it
layers
over
the
existing
law
and
and
if
someone
is
seeking
an
eviction
warrant
it
you
know
it
just
basic.
Y
It
asks
them
to
specifically
articulate
one
of
those
grounds
where
they're
not
asked
articulated
now
and
if
they
were.
A
To
a
judge
in
court
right
now
he
wouldn't
take
that
into
consideration.
I
mean.
Y
Right
well,
the
judge
would
take
it
into
consideration,
but
but
in
reality
you
know,
landlords
typically
get
around
that
by
simply
saying
that
they're
ending
the
lease
and
that
obviates
the
need
for
the
court
to
actually
investigate
whether
or
not
there
is
a
good
cause
for
the
eviction
and
what
this
again,
what
this
does
is
it
sort
of
it
changes
that
dynamic
it?
Y
It
makes
it
so
that
the
albany
city
court
is
going
to
engage
in
an
inquiry
with
the
landlord
and
the
tenant
to
explore
whether
or
not
there
is
in
fact
good
cause
for
the
eviction
and,
like
mr
you
know,
mclaughlin
said
early
on.
A
lot
of
these
grounds
are
the
grounds
that
landlords
typically
pursue
an
eviction
for
so
you
know
it
won't.
It
should
not
be
difficult
or
much.
Y
You
know
it
shouldn't
change
the
fun
of
mine,
fundamental
dynamic
of
an
eviction,
except
that
it
forces
that
conversation
to
happen
in
court
and
provides
the
tenant
an
opportunity
and
the
landlord
an
opportunity
opportunity
to
figure
out
whether
or
not
there
is
in
fact
good
cause
for
the
eviction
and
the
result
of
that
is
to
stabilize
you
know.
The
landlord
tenant
relationship
reduce
the
number
of
evictions,
and-
and
there
are
a
lot
of
you-
know,
knock
off.
Y
Z
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes
yeah?
I
a
lot,
I
think
alfredo
did
a
great
job
of
explaining
what
the
audience
is
trying
to
do,
and
I
respect
alfredo
both
for
his
experience
as
a
landlord
and
as
a
council
member,
I
do
have
some
questions.
Some
of
the
comments
I
thought
were
very
good.
I
think
glenessa
galliard,
who
is
an
attorney
who
sit
who
commented
as
a
landlord
in
arbor
hill.
She
basically
had
some
problems
as
written
and
she's
on
our
planning
board.
Z
I
think
she
has
a
very
good
idea
of
housing
in
the
city
of
albany,
from
her
planning
board
experience
and
from
her
landlord.
So
you
know
I
do
take
question
that
I
think
maybe
we
need
a
second
look
on
some
of
the
other
problems.
I
think
john
o'grady
made
an
excellent
comment
both
last
monday
and
tonight
that
an
advisory
board
might
be
a
good
idea.
Z
I
don't
know
how
that
can
be
written
into
the
statute.
I
know
we
have
advisory
boards
in
the
city
of
albany
on
all
sorts
of
things
that
involve
consumers
of
service
and
providers
of
service.
So
I
think
that's
a
good
point.
I
I
know
some
of
the
landlords-
and
I
who
have
commented
against
this.
I
certainly
do
not
think
that
they're
racist.
Z
Didn't
didn't
see
it
that
that
that
way
either
I
think
some
of
the
other
landlords
kakushik.
Z
And
stephen
negron
and
gabriel
silva,
I
think
they
went
through
there.
Obviously
they
have
read
it
and
they
have
experience
and
they
said
well.
Most
of
these
protections
are
already
common
sense
and
most
the
time
you
have
difficult,
then
that
you
would
have
these
provisions
within
the
law
and
then
joe's
questions
raised
some
of
the
same
issues
which
I
have
I
mean
in
two.
I
I'm
an
attorney.
I
don't
pretend
to
be
an
expert
on
landlord.
Z
The
tenant
wound
up
spending
the
best
part
of
a
year,
and
this
was
under
state
law.
The
old
state
state
law,
which
I
think
is,
as
bob
mcgee
has
stated,
pretty
much
had
these
same
protections.
Z
They
got
strengthened
in
2019,
but
I
did
want
to
read
something
that
was
in
the
bar
association
journal,
explaining
these
laws
in
2019,
so
that
I
don't
discredit
you
know
or
or
attribute
wrong
motives
or
reasons
to
the
landlords
that
have
raised
issues
with
I
know
and-
and
I'm
quoting
the
bar
association
here
journal
in
one
of
their
2019
issues,
specifically
on
this
law
and
they're,
quoting
the
new
york
times,
which
reported
on
the
rent
control
issue
that
economists,
from
both
the
left
and
the
right,
are
in
almost
universal
agreement
that
rent
control
makes
housing
problems
worse
in
the
long
run,
and
I
certainly
don't
regard
either
the
new
york
times
and
bar
association
journal
as
using
racist
whistles.
Z
I
think
that
was
a
very
objective
critique
and
then
you
know
the
the
question
which
comes
to
me
was
the
2019
law
allowed
cities
outside
of
new
york
to
basically
go
into
these?
You
know
housing
board
situations
and
have
such
things
as
rent
control
and
these
additional
protections.
Z
But
the
city
had
to
do
something:
first,
they
had
to
do
a
legitimate
survey
and
show
that
five
percent
of
their
for
that
no
more
than
five
percent
of
their
affordable
housing
was
vacant.
At
any
point
in
time
we
never
did
that.
So
I
guess
I'm
saying:
is
there
a
legal
fight
that
we're
gonna
face?
Are
we
trying
to
jump
over
some
of
the
requirements
in
seeking
further
restriction
or
further
protections?
Z
Are
we
trying
to
jump
over
the
requirements
that
the
new
york
state
2019
law
put
in
place?
I
know
I
raised
that
issue
with
bob
mcgee
and
I
think
he
made
some
amendments
because
I
know
I
got
a
mail
from
bob
with
a
revised
version
which
I
haven't
gotten
to
read
yet
so
he
could
answer
that
question
I
mean
yeah,
I
I
don't
think
anybody
on
the
council.
Z
You
know,
wants
to
see
people
paying
30
poor
people
paying
1300
average
rent.
I
I
know
with
the
few
veterans
that
I
dealt
with
and
most
of
them
were
looking
at
studio
apartments
and
just
a
studio.
One
person
in
albany
had-
and
this
was
in
2018-
the
cheapest
we
could
see-
was
about
850
a
month.
Z
Z
You
know
it
gave
us
an
avenue
for
enacting
some
of
these
further
ones
which
we
didn't
do.
So
that's
that's
my
concern
and
I'm
open
to
I'm
I'm
open
to
any
way
of
fixing
this.
I
know
judy
had
some
concerns,
which
I'm
sure
she'll
probably
mention
about
the
wording
of
the
five-month
notice.
Z
X
Okay,
I
appreciate
that
and
thank
you
mike
for
your
comments,
and
I
appreciate
those
I
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
misinformation
put
out
there
that
this
is
one
control.
This
is
not
renting
school.
This
is
not
going
to
lower
rent.
This
is
not
going
to
lower
rent
to
anybody.
This
is
if
your
rent
is
thirteen
hundred
dollars.
It's
not
going
to
be
eleven
hundred
dollars.
After
this,
it
will
be
thirteen
hundred
dollars.
What
this
stops.
X
It
stops
the
loophole.
It
closes
the
loophole
of
the
non-renewal
as
an
eviction
process,
for
you
know
getting
rid
of
tenants
that
the
landlord
has
no
good
reason
to
get
rid
of
that's
what
this
does.
That's
what
it
does.
It
closes
that
loophole
and
the
five
percent
is
to
make
it
so
that
landlord
doesn't
jump
the
rent
from
1300
to
1800.
X
That's
what
the
five
percent
is
there
and
what
that
allows.
The
landlord
to
do
is
renew
with
a
five
percent
increase,
which
I
think
for
thirteen
thousand
would
be
roughly
about
another
eighty
dollars.
So
when
could
still
go
up
to
1380
the
following
year,
when
they
renew
it,
just
can't
go
up
to
1800..
X
So
you
know
so
it's
not
uncontrolled
what
it.
What
what
it
is
and-
and
I
just
want
to
be
very
honest
with
you
one-
it
closes
the
loophole
for
bad
evictions
with
the
veneer,
that's
what
it
does
and
the
five
percent
is
there
to
make
it
so
that
landlords
don't
use
it
jump
in
invent
as
another
way
of
trying
to
close
that
loophole
of
allowing
landlords
to
evict
tenants
that
are
following
all
the
rules
and
doing
everything
right,
but
for
whatever
reason
they
want
to
evict
them
and.
X
X
You
know
so
so
why
would
well
that's
why
I
gave
this
the
scenario
of
what
does
a
landlord
consider
a
good
tenant,
the
person
that
plays
the
music
to
two
in
the
morning
and
pays
their
rent
on
time
and
never
calls
them
or
the
person
who
pays
the
rent
on
time
or
calls
them
all
the
company
complaining
about
the
person
that
plays
the
music?
Who
doesn't
give
a
news?
X
You
know
and
that's
the
problem
who
doesn't
give
you
news
most
times:
it's
not
the
person,
that's
playing
the
music
or
two
in
the
morning.
Is
that
paying
the
event
it's
the
person
that
calls
and
is
trying
to
correct
the
issue
and
is
seen
as
a
annoying
tenant
but
they're
just
trying
to
correct
the
issue
and
sometimes
landlords
feel
either
powerless
to
address
it
or
they
don't
live
in
the
neighborhood
and
feel
like
well,
I'm
getting
my
run
from
both
units.
X
So
why
am
I
going
to
mess
that
up?
They
may
play
the
music
to
two
in
the
morning,
but
they're
paying
their
rent,
and
you
know
I'm
not
going
to
get
rid
of
that
person.
So
I
think
that's
the
that's.
The
goal
is
to
try
to
get
landlords
to
address
the
tenants
that
are
not
following
the
rules,
who
are
not
penalizing
those
that
are
following
the
rules
and
are
complaining
about
rules
not
being
followed
either
by
other
tenants
or
by
the
landlords
not
taking
care
of
their
property.
So
that's
what
this
is.
X
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that's
clear
and
if
we
want
to
have
a
debate
and
a
discussion
about
whether
we
should
close
that
loophole
in
that
that's
fair,
that's
absolutely
fair,
but
I
don't
want
it
to
be
is
miscalculated.
This
is
renting
tool
because
it's
not
if
someone
moves
out
the
you
know
that
you
know
they're
moving
to,
I
don't
know,
moving
anywhere,
I'm
not
going
to
name
another
state,
that's
sunny
and
warmer,
but
they're
moving
anywhere.
X
The
landlord
can
then
take
the
property
and
go
from
13
to
18..
It
doesn't
stop
them
from
from
raising
for
the
next
person,
so
what
it
does
it
stops
them
from
raising
them
from
the
current
tenant
who's.
Following
all
the
rules
and,
like
I
said,
most,
scenarios
landlords
won't
even
raise
the
monetary
tenants,
eight
five
percent-
they
I
don't.
If
I
have
a
good
tenant,
that's
going
to
be
new
like
it
was
set
by
another
landlord.
If
you
have
a
good
tenant,
it's
going
to
be
new,
you
want
them
to
be
new.
X
You
know,
you
know,
because
it's
better
to
know
the
devil
you
know
than
w
dumps
and
and
that's
the
truth
and
the
landlords
who
are
in
the
room.
Tell
me
even
more.
If
you
have
a
good
tenant,
are
you
going
to
really
try
to
raise
them
out
of
moving
or
staying
in
your
home
or
staying
in
your
in
a
house?
A
B
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
the
continued
conversation.
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we
hear
both
sides
on
this
issue,
so
I
do
really
appreciate
that
my
question
tonight
is
going
to
go
back
to
number
10
just
like
last
time,
because
I'm
still
trying
to
make
sure
I'm
understanding
and
you
know
and
the
like.
So
what
is
the
basis
of
the
five
month
notice
like
what
was
used
to
determine
five
months.
X
X
Yeah,
so
the
basis
is,
if
you're,
a
landlord
and
you're
looking
to
renew
a
lease.
So
I
understand
that
landlords,
you
want,
you
don't
want.
You
want
a
very
low
vacancy
rate.
You
know
a
lot
of
people
think
that
landlords
are
millionaires
and
living
the
high
life.
Most
people
who
know
me
know
my
niece
doesn't
even
want
to
drive
my
car,
so
you
know
there's
no
high
life
being
lifted,
you
know,
so
you
want
to
keep
a
low
vacancy
rate.
X
You
want
to
make
sure
your
properties
are
constantly
occupied,
because
one
day
of
having
a
vacant
property,
a
bacon
unit
is
is,
is
income.
You
can
never
get
back.
It's
not
like
you
know.
If
you
don't
sell
a
car
today,
you
can
tell
it's
more,
no
landlords
make
the
their
revenue
through
time
and
space.
X
If
the
space
isn't
being
occupied
at
a
certain
time,
that's
lost
revenue.
They
can
never
get
back.
So
you
know,
so
this
is
actually
there
to
protect
landlords.
So
if
the
landlord
is
looking
to
the
new
lease
and
they
give
their
tenants
five
months,
renewal
notice
have
a
conversation
with
them.
Say
you
at
lease
venues
in
june
you
have
a
conversation
with
them
in
december:
hey
you
want
to
be
new.
At
least
you
know
your
lease
ends
at
the
end
of
may
june.
1St
you
want
to
do
a
news.
X
X
It
would
go
from
june
1st
just
you
know,
you
know
I
want
to
give
you
the
options
when
you,
if
you
don't
want
to
be
new,
please
let
me
know
if
you
change
your
mind
on
renewing,
please
let
me
know:
okay
10
says
I'm
not
going
to
be
new.
I
don't
know
what
I'm
doing
in
june,
so
a
landlord
goes
out
and
starts
trying
to
find
a
tenant,
because
you
want
to
make
sure
you
have
a
new
tenant
june
1st.
X
So
it's
now
february
they've
gotten
access
to
landlords,
they've
done
chilling
february
15th,
but
you
can't
do
it
on
valentine's
day.
Let's
do
the
15.
you've
got
to
land
a
tenant.
They
sign
a
new
lease.
Okay,
wait:
we've
got
a
new
tenant
june
for
us,
you're
gonna
be
okay!
So
now
you
know
april
comes
and
you
tell
your
land,
your
tenant,
okay,
I
want
to
set
up
a
walkthrough
for
men
because
you
want
to
do
your
walkthroughs
at
least
two
weeks
to
three
weeks
before
your
end
of
your
lease.
X
So
if
there's
any
issues
you
can
address
them
and
they
and
they're
given
an
opportunity
to
fix
the
issues.
So
it's
now
man
it's
now
april
and
you're,
giving
them
some
hey.
You
know
I
I
wanted
new.
I
want
to
do
a
walkthrough
and
then
they're,
like
you
know
what
I
don't
want
to
leave
in
at
the
end
of
may
I'm
thinking
of
leaving
in
july.
X
Well,
no,
you
can't
do
that.
You
were
given
an
opportunity
to
renew
a
lease
in
january.
You
were
given
an
opportunity
anytime
until
the
landlord
had
a
new
lease
to
get
to
to
just
to
renew
so
until
july,
until
february
15
they
had
an
opportunity
to
renew
a
lease
so
come
end
of
may
they
have
to
vacate
the
property
and
if
they
don't,
then
that's
a
good
false
eviction.
X
It
gives
them
plenty
of
notice
to
be
able
to
do
so
as
well
as
it
gives
landlords
plenty
of
time
to
be
able
to
find
somebody
to
renew
and
get
get
attendant,
so
it
protects
both.
It
protects
both.
It
is
complicated
to
you
know
the
way
it
reads,
and
I
get
that,
but
it
gives
the
opportunity
for
both
landlords
to
have
plenty
of
no
tenants
have
plenty
of
notice
about
the
new
york
as
well
as
landlords
have
plenty
of
time
to
try
to
find
a
new
tenant.
B
I
could,
if
I
could
follow
up
to
that,
I
appreciate
the
explanation
and
definitely
understand
the
inner
workings,
albeit
owner
occupied,
also
a
landlord
alfredo,
but
I'm
curious
to
why
five,
and
why
was
that
number
chosen
specifically
so,
for
example,
why
not
four
or
six
you
know
either
way
like
I'm
just
wondering
why
five
was
chosen.
X
I
think
five
protects
both
both
tenants
and
landlords
more.
It
gives
landlords
more
time
to
try
to
find
somebody
if
you're
looking
to
find
somebody.
You
know
you
know
in
in
a
five
month
period
and
it
gives
tenants
more
time
to
know
that
hey
you
want
to
be
new.
Now
is
your
time
to
renew.
X
So
that's
why
I
think
it's
it's.
I
mean
90
days.
You
know
you
know,
maybe
I
think
you
have
to
give
90
day
notice.
I
know
you
have
to
give
me
a
notice
in
the
state,
but
this
actually,
I
think,
gives
both
tenants
and
landlords
more
time
to
actually
try
to.
You
know
one
gives
more
time
to
tenants
to
find
or
figure
out
what
they
want
to
do,
and
it
gives
more
time
for
landlords
to
be
able
to
find
not
a
tenant
and
still
stay
within
the
goods
for
guidance.
AA
Thank
you.
I
sorry
I
also
I
have
questions
about
that
part
too,
and
I
that
part
10
and
I
just
find
the
whole
thing
so
I
have
to
say
I
fully
appreciate
the
good
cause
evictions.
I
think
it's
important
and
I
appreciate
all
the
sponsors
bringing
this
forward.
AA
I
didn't
have
any
questions
on
monday,
because
I'm
comfortable
with
that,
I
was
able
to
ask
the
and
I
thank
you
for
the
very
first
meeting,
because
I
was
able
to
ask
all
the
different
questions
that
I
had
and
but
this
is
the
one
sticking
point
that
it
really
doesn't
make
sense
to
me.
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
feel
like
I
kind
of
need
to
do,
especially
with
this
new
legislation,
is
to
fully
understand
it
from
the
tenant
perspective
and
from
the
landlord
perspective,
and
I
just
find
it
very
confusing.
AA
AA
I
wouldn't
have
wanted
that
five-month
clause
because
maybe
the
landlord
would
say
like
I
don't
know
and
and
say
you
should
move
out
and
find
someone
new
and
I'm
like.
I
don't
know
what
I
want,
and
so
I
I
don't
I
I
feel
like
that's.
I
don't
know,
I
think
sonya's
questions
on
the
time
period
should
perhaps
be
thought
about
a
bit
more
because
at
least
from
my
time
as
and
I've
never
been
a
landlord,
I've
only
been
a
tenant.
AA
AA
It
was,
I
didn't,
want
to
move,
but
then
there
were
times
that
you
know
I
I
don't
know
that
seems
that
seems
like
a
difficult
time
period
to
me
from
but
again
so,
and
I
my
question
is:
is
the
only
way
for
a
landlord
to
end
to
get
out
of
a
lease
that
they
don't
want
to
be
in
through
eviction,
because
I
that
seems
problematic
too.
AA
Just
I
have
you
know
there
are
situations,
so
I
think
the
smoking
thing
is
a
really
good
example,
and
again
I
take
this
from
the
other,
so
I
have
severe
asthma.
If
somebody
continue
to
break
the
smoking
rule,
I
I
can't
be
around
them
like.
If
that
is
I'm
not
gonna,
say
it's
like
a
death
defying
thing,
but
it's
it's
a
very
serious
condition
for
me
to
be
constantly
around
cigarette
smoke.
I
can't
do
it
and
I
would
definitely
end
up
in
the
hospital
a
bunch
with
it.
AA
So
if
I
happen
to
live
in
a
place
where
somebody
was
smoking
regularly,
that
was
violating
it
and
so
that
this
is
a
real
example
that
one
of
my
one
of
my
small-time
landlords
that
again
only
owns
like
a
couple
of
properties.
I
would
say
that
they're
similar
to
alfredo
and
in
all
manner
like
I
would
have
loved
to
rent
from
you
alfredo.
If
I
don't
own
a
house
anymore,
I'm
gonna
try
to
rent
one
of
your
apartments,
but
I
so
for
me
waiting
those
months.
Well,
somebody's
continuing
it
just
like.
AA
AA
I
should
say
I
should
clarify
if
the
if
the
tenant
wants
doesn't
want
to
leave,
then
the
only
way
so
the
landlord,
like,
let's
say
this
tenant,
I
and
again
like
I-
have
examples
on
both
sides
where
we're
all
people
some.
You
know
like
we're,
not
going
to
have
anything
perfect,
no
matter
what
your
category
is.
So
I
have
examples
on
both
sides.
AA
So
if
there
is
a
landlord
who
has
a
tenant,
who's
outrageous
and
not
a
great
tenant,
and
so
the
only
way
like
they
can't
just
be
like
listen,
this
person
is
not
stopping
smoking
and
I
have
somebody
that's
continually
in
the
hospital
that
has
been
here
living
here
for
15
years.
I
don't
want
them
to
leave,
but
they're
gonna
leave,
because
I
can't
remove
this
person
who
continues
to
smoke,
even
though
you
know
they
could
just
end
the
lease,
but
they're
not
allowed
to
end
the
lease.
X
Let's,
let's
die,
yes,
digest
that
situation
so
and
I've
had
that
situation
happen
to
me
where
I've
had
a
tenant.
Who
does
who
didn't
want
just
felt
I
pay
rent,
I
can
smoke
what
I
want,
so
no,
you
can't
and
I've
had
to
deal
with
that.
So,
let's
digest
right
now.
If
I
had
a
tenant
that
didn't
want
to
move
out,
even
though
they're
breaking
the
leaks
that
says
you
can't
smoke
or
even
if
the
lease
expired,
I
would
have,
and
they
still
don't
want
to
leave.
X
AA
With
more
questions,
just
because
I
would
say
this
is
my
time
to
talk
and
your
time
to
answer
so
sorry,
but
so
when
it
comes
to
housing
court,
it's
already
even
without
I
mean
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
looked
in
the
timeline
of
housing
court
like
eviction,
court
is
already
months
out.
So
aside
from
the
pandemic,
that
was
the
case
before
the
pandemic,
and
so
this
would
create.
AA
I
would
think,
and
even
so
much
more
so
I
I
just
it's,
I
and
my
other
question
is:
is
this
even
like
if
this
is
challenged
in
a
court
of
law,
because
I
will
say
so,
rob
corp
counsel
always
comes
to
us
as
like
you're
gonna
get
sued?
AA
Is
this
going
to
be
able
to
be?
Is
this
specific
clause
on
the
lease,
because
I
don't
like
there's
a
whole
freedom
of
contract
thing
so
like?
Is
this
specific
clause
actually
going
to
be
able
to
be
upheld
in
a
court
of
law?
Like
I
good
cause
eviction
stuff?
I
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
thing,
but
I
and
again
I'm
not
an
attorney,
but
from
the
different
read
that
I
have.
AA
I'm
not
sure
that
it
would
actually
be
able
to
be
upheld,
and
then
I
also
would
like
to
bring
up
the
whole
concern
about
what
is
this
going
to
do
on
our
court
system,
which
was
already
overloaded,
so
have
you
guys
factored
that
piece
into
it?
If
the
only
way
to
remove
someone
is
through
eviction,
then
you
know
what
I
mean
like.
What
have
you
guys
factored
that
in
and
and
consider
that
as
part
of
the
process.
X
Gonna
give
you
my
landlord
experience.
So
if
someone
is
smoking
and
breaking
waking
the
lease
right
now
and
then
they
don't
want
to
leave,
I
would
be
forced
to
take
them
to
eviction.
That's
the
law
right
now.
I
cannot
change
the
lack
on
them.
I
cannot
pick
them
up
and
say
you
got
to
go.
I
I
cannot
take
them
out
and
say
you
know,
you're,
creating
an
unsafe
environment.
For
my.
AA
AA
X
A
X
Back
and
forth
well
I
want
to
also
finish
this.
This
statement,
I'm
just
super
confused.
Honestly,
most
landlords
are
going
to
attend.
That's
problematic
like
that.
I'm
going
to
probably
tell
them.
Listen
you've
been
a
problem.
I
can
get
you
out
to
eviction
or
I
can
get
you
out
by
giving
you
back
opportunity
to
process
and
go
home.
That's
what
most
landlords
are
going
to
do.
That's
what
I
did.
I
had
a
person
same
issue,
smoking,
smoking,
smoking
and
I
have
a
no
smoking
policy
and
I
I
was
very
clear.
AA
X
Y
So
under
the
law
as
it
is,
and
under
the
proposal
like
alfredo,
was
saying,
even
if
a
landlord
terminates
says
they're
terminating
a
lease,
the
tenant
can
say:
well,
I
you
know
I'm
not
accepting
the
termination
or
you
didn't,
terminate
it
correctly
and
they
can
hold
out
and,
yes,
you
would
ultimately
have
to
get
an
eviction
warrant
issued
by
the
court
if
you
wanted
to
to
move
that
tenant
out
of
the
property
as
far
as
whether
the
law,
if
it's
challenged,
will
hold
up,
I
mean
so
speaking
about
the
u.s
constitution.
Y
Obviously,
you
know
government
in
general
has
the
ability
to
regulate
this
transaction,
this
landlord-tenant
transaction-
it's
it's
holds
up
under
the
fifth
amendment,
because
it
is
not
an
inverse
condemnation,
it
does
not
rob
the
landlord
of
the
economic
benefit
of
the
property,
so
so
we're
good
on
that
grounds.
There
is
a
concern
or
you
would.
The
first
question
you
would
ask,
is
whether
or
not
this
law
is
preempted
by
hstpa
or
the
existing
eviction
law?
I
don't
believe
it
does.
Y
The
question
you
have
to
ask
there
is
whether
or
not
state
law
fully
occupies
the
field
of
rental
housing
regulation,
and
I
don't
think
that
it
does.
You
know
we're
talking
about
evictions
here,
we're
talking
very
about
a
very
specific
legal
proceeding.
It's
under
article
7
of
the
rpa
pl,
it's
a
summary
right.
AA
AA
AA
When
you
have
good
cause
to
end,
though
I
mean
maybe
it
should
be
a
good
cause
to
end
the
least
two
that
you
have
to
have
a
good
reason,
so
you
don't
actually
have
to
go
to
eviction
court.
I
I
just
to
me
that
doesn't
really,
I
think
it's
creating
a
huge
bottleneck
that
already
exists.
We
all
I
mean.
Would
you
agree,
rob
that
there's
a
bottleneck
in
eviction
court,
because
from
what
I
know,
knowing
judges
and
lawyers
and
everything
there's
a
bottleneck
there
and.
Y
One
of
the
changes
that
was
submitted
this
afternoon
is
just
clarify
that
if
there
is
a
voluntary
agreement
between
the
landlord
and
the
tenant
to
end
the
lease
and
the
tenant
moves
out
and
the
landlord's
okay
with
it,
that's
100
fine.
As
long
as
that
transaction
is
not
brought
before
the
court,
the
court's
not
going
to
intervene
on
that
that
you
know
they.
If
you
know
landlords
and
tenants
are
still
free
to
end
the
lease
like
voluntarily,
on
whatever
terms
that
they
agree
on.
AA
So
my
one
request
and
then
I
will
not
talk
anymore
joe.
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
tolerant
of
me.
I
appreciate
it
not
just
me
and
everyone
else,
but
my
request
is
that
is
that
we
could
have
something
in
there
where
you
could
do
a
good
cause
lease
ending
as
well,
so
that
people
would
not
have
to
go
to
eviction
court,
because
I
think
that
and
I'm
sorry
jr
still
has
to
stand
up.
So
that
would
be
my
request
and
yeah.
C
So,
just
real,
quick,
the
only
the
with
ginny,
with
your
example
of
smoking,
a
violation
of
the
lease,
as
opposed
to
then
just
evicting
them.
If
I
mean
terminating
the
lease,
that's
actually
what
a
lot
of
landlords
from
what
I
understand
do
is
as
opposed
to
okay,
we're
getting
close
to
the
end
of
the
lease.
What
can
I
do?
I
can
just
terminate
the
lease
or
I
can
do
a
notice
to
cure.
C
So,
depending
on
your
lease
you
in
order
to
give
a
notice
determination,
depending
on
your
lease's
length,
you're
looking
at
let's
say
one
year,
lease
you're
looking
at
a
60-day
notice
now.
So
I
have
to
give
you
a
10-day
notice
and
now
I'm
giving
you
a
60-day
notice
to
terminate
your
lease
because
you
violated
this
provision
and
if
you
don't
leave
now,
I
have
to
go
back
to
court.
Saying
the
notice
secure
was
valid.
C
And
then,
on
top
of
in
terms
of
the
courting
issue,
I
actually
have
to
disagree
with
mr
mcgee.
There
is
a
backlog
from
what
I
know
and
throughout
the
states,
especially
in
my
time
when
I
was
a
court
attorney
in
landlord
tenant
law
down
downstate,
it
is
a
backlog
and
what
the
2019
act
did
that
was
different
from
before
that
is.
C
Everybody
has
an
has
a
right
to
an
adjournment
for
the
first
one
and
with
an
adjournment
you
do
like
between,
depending
on
dockets,
and
I
know
in
towns
and
villages,
you're
looking
sometimes
as
a
two
to
three
months.
Wait
for
the
next
court
date
just
because
a
person's
entitled
to
an
adjournment.
AB
Yeah
trying
to
think
where
I
wanted,
so
I
think
some
of
the
concern,
the
issue
that
I
have
and
generally
I'm
you
know-
don't
have
a
concern
with
the
overall
thrust
here.
But
I
I
think
somebody
goes
back
to
the
issues
that
jenny
is
raising,
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around
the
provision
that.
AB
Basically,
doesn't
allow
a
landlord
to
not
to
renew
a
lease
at
the
end
of
a
term
without
having
to
go
through
an
eviction
proceeding,
and
I
understand
some
of
the
concerns
I'm
trying
to
go
back
and
forth
and
part
of
it
also
is
you
know,
and
maybe
it's
going
back
to
some
of
the
issues
that
I
thought
glennis
hit
on
some
of
the
issues
that
I'm
I'm
thinking
about
and
how
a
poorly
managed
property
can
have
a
really
negative
impact
on
a
neighborhood
and
a
property
can
be
poorly
managed
either,
because
the
landlord
doesn't
care
or
is
absentee
or
the
and
therefore
tenant
behavior
might
not
be
controlled
or
or
the
landlord.
AB
Maybe
sees
too
many
hoops
to
go
through
to
sometimes
addressing
issues
and
and
non-renewal
of
the
lease
is
sometimes
a
way
that
you
can
deal
with
a
problematic
tenant
without
having
to
go
through
an
eviction.
Proceeding
that
is,
might
be
costly
and
time
consuming,
and
so
I'm
just
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around
that
whole
issue.
AB
In
terms
of
how
do
you
streamline
that
process
without-
and
I
think
is
what
was
ginny-
was
raising
without
really
making
it
having
to
make
it
an
eviction,
proceeding
and
taking
away
the
ability
of
a
landlord
to
decide
for
reasons
not
to
renew
a
lease,
but
that
that
is,
you
know
one
of
the
areas
that
I'm
trying
to
still
wrap
my
head
around
in
terms
of
how
that
all
works
and
that
one
of
the
concerns
I
have
so
I
have
a
quick
question
because
you
know
alfredo
had
referenced
something
about.
AB
You
know
it's
important
at
a
good
lease
with
whatever
your
expectations
are
in
there
but
raised
the
question
about
you
know
on
renewal.
You
you.
If
there
are
issues
that
you
need
to
be
addressed,
I
think
you
said
something
about
adding
provisions
to
a
lease
and,
if,
if
upon
renewal,
a
landlord
decides
to
add
provisions
to
her
release
to
try
to
address
issues
that
he
or
she
was
dealing
with.
AB
Is
that
a
lease
that
the
under
the
current
way,
this
bill
is
structured,
that
the
tenant
would
have
to
accept
as
a
renewal
or
can
the
tenant
simply
contest
and
say
no?
I
have
a
right
to
renewal
of
the
lease
I
currently
have
and
you
can't
change
the
terms
of.
What's
in
that
lease.
Y
Yeah
I
mean
I
don't
I'm
not
sure
that
there
is
a
legal
right
on
the
tenant's
part
to
the
exact
same
lease
and
there
wouldn't
be
under
the
proposed
law,
but
and
then
to
address
your
first
point.
The.
Y
Y
It
just
says
that
if
you
want
to
based
on
the
non-renewal,
go
to
albany
city
court
and
get
an
eviction
warrant,
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
that
unless
you
demonstrate
good
cause
for
the
eviction,
so
you
still
have
the
ability
and
in
95
percent
of
cases
the
tenant
is
going
to
hear
from
the
landlord
that
I'm
not
renewing
your
lease
and
the
land
and
the
tenant
household
is
going
to
make
other
arrangements
to
move
out.
Y
But
for
if,
for
whatever
reason,
the
tenant
household
is
unable
to
move
out
at
that
point,
under
the
current
law
and
under
the
law
that's
proposed
here,
the
landlord
is,
if
they're,
going
to
force
the
the
tenant
household
out
of
the
home
they're
going
to
have
to
pursue
an
eviction
warrant
again
under
the
law
as
it
is,
and
under
the
law.
That's
that's
proposed.
The
only
difference
is
under
the
law.
That's
proposed
the
landlord
when
they
get
to
court
they're
going
to
have
to
articulate
one
of
the
good
cause
crowns
for
doing
so.
I.
AB
Might
disagree
with
you
and
how
I
see
it,
but
another
question
I
have
is
on
one
of
the
the
the
good
causes
is
if
you're
selling
the
property
and
the
condition
is
that
the
property
be
turned
over
to
the
new
owner
free
and
clear
of
any
obligations
which
would
mean
that
if
the
property
has
current
tenants
and
the
new
owner
wants
it
free
and
clear,
the
current
landlord
would
have
to
would
have
the
right
to
terminate
those
leases,
regardless
of
what
the
expiration
is
correct.
AB
So
if
the
term
of
the
lease
extended
into
the
period
where
the
new
ownership
took
possession
of
the
property
that
lease
would
continue
when
the
new
ownership
took
over,
but
would
the
new
owner
then
have
to
offer
a
renewal
or
would
be
able
to
not
renew?
If
again,
because
there's
an
issue
where
the
the
property
of
new
order
would
want
the
property,
free
and
clear
of
any
obligations.
Y
Well,
presumably,
the
new
owner.
In
that
case
I
mean
they
would
never
get
involved
in
the
eviction
themselves,
if
they're
going
to
insist
that
the
property
be
given
to
them
without
tenants
but
like,
but
if
so,
if
you
have
a
lease
for,
if
the
tenant
has
a
lease
that
says
it's
good
until
january
1st
and
the
the
landlord
selling
the
property,
you
know
they
have
a
contract
for
sale.
That
says
they
need
to
evict
by
you
know
december
1st
that
landlord
is
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
that.
Y
They're
not
going
to
have
been
able
to.
I
mean
that
that
part
of
the
contract
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
meet
that
part
of
the
contract
for
sale,
the
term
of
the
contract
for
sale,
because
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
obtain
an
eviction
of
the
tenant
by
that
time.
Unless
the
tenant
voluntarily
moves
out
either
deciding
they
want
to
work
with
the
landlord
or
perhaps
the
landlord
selling
the
property
can
provide
them
some
sort
of
incentive.
Y
Again,
you
know.
One
of
the
things
I
want
to
emphasize
here
is
that
we
the
additions
that
we
made
today.
I
mean
they
are
meant
to
protect
those
sorts
of
voluntary
agreements,
and
the
hope
is
here
too,
that
you
know
the
the
good
cause.
Laws
will
encoura,
encourage
landlords
and
tenants
to
work
together
so
that
you
know
the
ending
of
tenancies
is
less
disruptive
to
albany
neighborhoods
into
the
households
themselves
so
that
they
can
come
to.
Y
You
know,
agreements
wherein
the
tenant
household
has
time
to
find
a
new
home
and
and
and
the
landlord
is
able
to
move
in
a
new
tenant.
If
that's
their
desire.
You
know
on
terms
that
are
favorable
without
needing
to
get
an
eviction
warrant,
I'm
not
sure.
C
Richard
just
as
a
standard
practice,
many
leases
from
my
practice
and
seeing
it
many
leases
do
contain.
There's
not
state
law
regarding
on
this
matter
of,
if
they,
if
they
sell
the
property
that
you.
W
C
They're
they're
automatically
there's
nothing
on
the
books
on
that
one.
Many
standard
practices
and
lease,
though
that
from
what
I've
seen
in
my
in
my
time,
is
that
they
have
those
provisions
where
it
says
if
the
if
I'm
selling
the
lease
is
terminated,
that's
been
standard
practice
from
from
what
I've
seen.
A
AB
Again,
the
the
the
area
that
I
have
still
have
to
get
figure
out
is
the
the
non-renewal
issue
and
how
that's
be
dealt
with.
A
C
G
C
A
Okay,
this
agenda
has
us
taking
up
the
next
local
local
g
also,
so,
if
we're
gonna
need
another
meeting
on
this,
we're
gonna
start
the
other
one
or
we're
just
gonna
go
for
a
couple
more
hours.
I.
AB
A
AC
Thank
you.
I
don't
think
I
have
questions
so
much
as
a
couple
things
I
think
are
helpful
to
clarify.
AC
AC
I
wasn't
completely
following
everything
that
alfredo
said,
but
I
think
alfredo
said
basically
if
a
tenant
can't
decide
and
then
the
landlord
goes,
you
know
gives
them
five
months
notice
and
then
they
go
ahead
and
they
decide
to
you
know
the
landlord
leases
it
well,
then
the
tenant
needs
to
move
out
or
their
holdover,
but
that
would
not
be
a
legal
eviction
under
paragraph
10
because
there
needs
to
be
the
consent
of
the
tenant
to
the
agreed
termination
of
the
lease
the
end
of
the
lease
comes
and
goes
on
the
five
month.
AC
You
know
if
somebody
has
at
least
let's
say
for
a
year,
and
there
is
agreement.
You
know
the
the
the
landlord
wants
that
person
out
at
the
end
of
that
lease
term.
The
landlord
can
give
them
notice
and
give
that
and
and
and
basically
say-
and
you
have
the
right
to
refuse
to
move
unless
you
consent
and
to
this,
and
then
at
that
point
the
landlord
can't
lease
the
apartment
and
well,
the
landlord
could
lease
the
apartment.
AC
The
landlord
simply
would
not
then
be
able
to
go
to
court
and
do
an
eviction
proceeding
based
upon
the
fact
that
he
now
has
a
new
lease
executed
with
somebody
else,
because
he
entered
into
that
lease.
He
didn't
meet
all
the
terms
the
conditions
of
paragraph
10.,
so
paragraph
10
says
you
need
the
consent
before
you
can
enter
into
that
lease.
If
you
want
to
use
that
particular
paragraph
to
be
able
to
bring
an
infection
proceeding
in
in
court.
AC
It
is,
it
is
a
protect.
I
mean
this.
This
whole
law
is
really
protections
for
tenants
to
continue
in
their
premises.
You
know
in
in
their
apartments,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
as
people
are.
You
know
thinking
about
this
and
rob
tell
me
if
I'm
wrong
about
what
I
you
know
tell
people
if
I'm,
if
I'm
wrong
about
that,
but
I
do
want
to
just
cover
a
couple
other
things
richard
richards
gone
at
the
moment,
I'll
cover
something
else.
AC
I
also
want
to
make
it
clear
that
if
somebody,
if
it's
a
month-to-month
tenancy
with
no
lease,
then
the
landlord's
only
ability
to
get
rid
of
somebody
is
by
voluntary
agreement
that
we're
now
parting
ways
and
you're
moving
someplace
else,
and
the
landlord
cannot
bring
an
eviction
proceeding
until
that
person
stops
paying
rent.
I
guess-
or
there
is
one
of
the
other
one
of
the
other
nine
causes
so
for
a
month-to-month
tenancy,
there's
no
basis
to
actually
bring
an
eviction
proceeding
unless,
for
paragraphs,
one
through
nine
one
of
those
causes.
AC
Richard
with
regard
to
your
question
about
whether
or
not
somebody
is
entitled
to
continuing
under
the
existing
lease
terms,
if
somebody
has
a
year's
lease,
let's
say
and
all
those
terms
exist
and
they're
coming
to
the
end
of
of
that
lease,
and
somebody
just
and
a
landlord
decides.
I
want
to
add
new
terms.
AC
The
landlord
can
offer
a
lease
with
new
terms
and
the
tenant
can
then
decide
whether
or
not
to
execute
that
new
lease.
If
the
tenant
does
not
execute
a
new
lease,
then
the
tenant
continues
on
a
month-to-month
tenancy
and
the
prior
terms
of
the
lease
are
understood
to
be
incorporated
into
that
particular
lease
agreement.
Unlike
a
month
to
month,
for
which
there
may
not
be
any
lease
terms.
AC
No,
you
know
no
written
lease
in
which
specific
terms
exist
in
in
a
in
a
written
lease
situation,
I
have
been
told
by
a
couple
attorneys
who
know
something
about
housing
law
that,
under
those
terms,
the
conditions
of
the
prior
written
lease
would
continue.
AC
It
is,
then,
a
month-to-month
tenancy
on
which
the
landlord
can
only
terminate
it
if
it
meets
one
of
the
good
cause
requirements
going
on
39..
So
that's
just
some
additional
things.
I
you
know,
I
would
really.
I
don't
know
if
rob
has
covered
the
changes
that
he
made.
I'm
only
aware
of
one
change
that
he
made
in
in
the
legislation.
I
do
think
it
would
be
helpful
for
him
to
go
over
what
amendments
he
made,
because
I
don't
think
we
got
a
redline
version
of
that
of
the
new
law.
AC
So
those
are
you
know
I
I
want.
I
want
to
say
that
I
I
I
struggle
with
this.
I
struggle
with
this
because
I
support
the
idea
of
somebody
being
able
to
stay
in
their
home,
especially
being
able
to
stay
in
their
home,
not
having
a
retaliatory
eviction
based
upon
the
fact
that
they
have
made
some
sort
of
a
comment
to
code,
even
if
maybe
they're,
not
the
best
term,
you
know
tenant.
AC
Maybe
the
thing
to
do
is
to
put
a
provision
in
here
that
protects
somebody
under
those
kind
of
circumstances,
but
the
the
the
idea
that
there
are
something
or
or
add
something
to
the
nuisance
requirements
or
violations
of
terms.
AC
AC
You
know
certain
rules
and
regulations
that
the
violation
of
that
would
be
a
basis
for
a
good
cause
eviction.
So
I
I
think
the
legislation
needs
some
work
on
some
of
those
issues.
Thank
you.
A
Z
A
B
AB
Yeah
so
I'd
like
to
just
defer
rob
to,
I
think
it
might
be
non-controversial
not
as
controversial
but
I'll
defer
to
rob
to
basically
explain
this
one
or
to
wreck
or
to.
Y
Yeah
all
right,
so
this
is
this-
is
a
pretty
simple
one.
It's
more
house,
it's
very
much
a
housekeeping
bill,
so
the
local
law
f,
it
switches
out
the
title
of
commissioner
for
chief
building
official,
which
I
think
is
just
easier
to
work
with
it's
the
less,
because
it's
not
contingent
on
the
title.
Y
It
refers
simply
to
the
person
in
charge
of
the
building
department
at
any
given
point
it
degenders
some
of
the
language
and
then
it
changes
or
amends
some
of
the
language
regarding
the
recoverability
of
the
costs
of
performing
emergency
work
at
a
premises
to
make
it
easier
for
the
city
to
recover
and
those
are
those
are
really
the
three
changes.
The
chief
building
official
changed
the
degendering
of
the
language
and
then
the
the
change
to
the
recoverability
language.
AB
Just
a
quick
question
on
this,
I
guess
for
robert
rick,
I
mean
I
don't
know
if
it
makes
sense
to
hold
this
until
the
whole
package
is
put
together
or
if
this
is
what
to
do.
If
we
had
to
move
on
monday.
AB
S
AB
A
And
I'm
going
to
ask
for
the
clerk
to
set
up
another
meeting
for
this
one
she's
already
setting
up
a
meeting
for
h
and
I
so
this
one
would
be
after.
I
don't
think
we
could
take
three
of
them
up
in
one
night.
A
Well,
I
think
I
think
danielle
come
up
with
a
couple
june:
okay,
great.
AA
I
I
would
just
caution
I
I'll
be
reaching
out
to
members
june
is
a
significant
month
for
many
members
and
they
might
want
evenings
free.