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Description
The Committee reviewed Local Law G of 2018 and Ordinance 46.122.20. Local Law G of 2018 create the City of Albany Commission on Municipal Internet Service. Ordinance 46.122.20 is necessary to give the USDO consistent numbering and to increase user-friendliness in terms of layout and readability. Assistant Corporation Counsel, Jared Pellerin provided an update to the committee on the franchise agreement with Spectrum.
B
Good
evening,
everyone,
this
is
the
february
3rd
meeting
of
the
common
council's
planning,
land
use
and
economic
development
committee
committee
members
present
joyce
love
tom
hoey
and
myself
kathy
fahey,
other
council
members,
president
richard
conte
aluzuwanani,
and
I'm
sure
there
are
more
who
are
going
to
be
joining
us
staff,
john
council
staff,
john
rafael,
piccardo,
and
michelle
andre
and
planning
department
staff,
commissioner,
chris
spencer
and
director
of
planning,
brad
glass.
B
We
all
danielle.
I
missed
you,
our
city
clerk,
danielle
gillespie.
We
also
have
councilmember
jenny
farrell,
I
see
here.
So
we
do
have
a
lot
on
the
agenda
tonight.
The
planning
committee
has
been
really
busy,
so
we're
we're
we're
going
to
be
discussing
local
g
and
we're
also
going
to
be
briefly
discussing
the
franchise
agreement
jared.
Oh
jared.
B
I
missed
you
jared
pellerin
from
corp
council's
office,
hi
jared
jared's,
gonna,
talk
to
us
about
the
franchise
agreement
and
and
then
we'll
talk
about
ordinance,
46
122
20,
which
is
the
technical
amendments
to
the
usda.
B
So
we'll
start
with
local
g,
and
that
is
a
local
law
amending
chapter
42
of
the
code
of
the
city
of
albany.
By
adding
a
new
part
entitled
city
of
albany
commission
on
municipal
internet
service
and
providing
for
the
responsibilities
of
the
commission
with
respect
to
researching
the
logistics
and
financing
of
a
city-owned
high-speed
internet
service
and
requiring
the
commission
to
make
findings
and
recommendations
to
the
mayor
and
the
common
council
regarding
creation
of
such
infrastructure.
B
Okay
and
the
sponsor
of
that
legislation
is
a
wusuani
so
alusu,
we
can
start
with
you
and
you
can
tell
us
why
you're
bringing
this
legislation
forth.
C
C
The
need
for
access
to
internet
in
the
city
of
albany,
very
too
often
in
the
city.
There
was
reports
that
were
made
that
29
of
our
residents
don't
have
access
to
the
internet.
The
internet
is
no
longer
a
luxury.
It's
a
necessity
whether
you
look
to
apply
for
a
job
keep
up
to
date,
with
the
latest
news
to
conduct
various
business
transaction
and
as
an
educator.
C
C
And
just
more
recently,
we
have
updated
website
city
website,
whether
you're
requesting
for
city
services.
You
need
access
to
the
internet.
If
you
want
to
pay
a
tax
bill,
you
will
need
access
to
the
internet,
and,
like
I
mentioned
earlier
in
2019,
there
was
a
report
that
was
made
by
the
times
union
that
nearly
29
of
albany
households
don't
have
access
to
the
internet.
C
So
this
is
in
recognition
of
the
fact
that
there
are
several
of
our
residents,
one
third
of
our
residents,
don't
have
access
to
the
internet
and
when
the
private
sector
fails
to
act,
I
strongly
believe
that
government
must
intervene.
We
already
know
what
happens
with
cities
which
have
municipal
internet
right,
chattanooga
tennessee.
They
have
seen
lower
internet
costs
and
faster
speed
than
areas
with
private
internet
services.
C
They
have
seen
increase
in
private
sector
investments,
individuals
actually
moving
into
chattanooga
tennessee
start
up
businesses
to
establish
small
businesses,
hiring
job
opportunities
because
a
reliable
internet.
That
is
what
it
provides
job
opportunities.
It
also
encourages
our
entrepreneurs
to
come
to
your
town
and
set
a
business.
All
that
is
some
things
that
are
sometimes
missing
in
the
city
of
albany,
but
also
in
the
city
of
albany.
C
We
have
spectrum
charter,
which
is,
in
my
eyes,
spectrum
greed,
and
I
believe
that
they
need
competition
in
the
city
which
is
going
to
lower
the
prices
of
the
quality
internet
that
our
residents
have
requested
in
demand.
C
You
know
there
is
no
longer,
and
I
believe
that
this
legislation,
once
the
committee
is
put
together
and
we
do
make
a
decision
to
move
forward,
there
won't
be
no
longer
a
monopoly
on
high-speed
internet
services
because
we
will
have
alternatives
and
options.
C
So
essentially,
the
main
takeaway
is
that
the
internet
is
an
essential
part
of
everyday
lives.
So
it's
important
that
everyone
has
access
to
this.
The
most
effective
means
of
ensuring
that
everyone
in
albany
will
have
access
to
high
quality
internet
is
to
establish
a
municipal
internet
services
around
the
country.
Cities
that
have
municipal
internet
have
seen
lower
internet
costs
and
have
faster
speed
because
of
the
increase
in
competition.
It
brings
it
also
an
effective
way
to
attract
new
residents
and
businesses
to
our
city
send
up
com.
C
B
Okay,
thank
you.
I
want
to
mention
that
planning
committee
members
judy
daucher
and
albert
alfredo.
I
was
calling
you
alberto
earlier,
alfredo
alfredo
ballerin
I've
also
joined
us.
Now
I
was
most
many
of
you
might.
Some
of
you
might
recall
that
a
study
was
done
back
in
2017
by
a
group
called
millennium
strategies,
broadband
assessment
and
feasibility
study
and
they
had
recommendations.
B
I
I
was
just
going
through
it
today
a
lot
of
recommendations
in
this
report
and-
and
it
was
very
helpful
to
me-
and
I
you
know
most-
the
average
person
is
pretty
technologically
challenged
as
far
as
understanding
all
all
this.
You
know
broadband
because
there's
so
many
different
categories,
this
report,
if
you
have
a
chance
to
read
it,
it
was
sent
out
late
today.
B
It's
really
really
helpful.
I
don't
know
if
you've
seen
it
at
all
a
woo
sue.
C
Actually,
I
did
two
years
ago,
but
I
also
found
the
interest
yeah.
I'm
gonna
be
positive.
C
I
think
that
people
would
have
sent
that
that
report-
you
know
you
know-
probably
a
little
bit
earlier
instead
of
30
minutes
before
the
meeting,
but
I
did
read
it
a
couple
of
months
ago,
so
I
just
wish
that
it
would
have
been
really
nice
for
my
colleagues
to
have
kind
of
re
gotten
the
report
on
the
document.
You
know
before
30
minutes
before
the
meeting,
but
that's
not
your
day.
B
B
But
I
just
want
to
turn
it
over
to
chris
spencer,
chris.
Maybe
you
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
report
and
some
of
your
thoughts
on
this
issue.
D
Sorry
about
that,
so
no,
I
would
agree
with
a
lot
of
owasso's
council
member
anani's
assessment
in
terms
of
the
need
for
better
access.
I
mean
we,
the
the
report,
notes
that
a
lot
of
the
people
that
don't
have
access
note
cost
is
that's
the
number
one
driver
as
far
as
why
people
don't
have
access
it's
not
that
it's
not
necessarily
available.
It
is
cost,
but
this
report
was
really
about
more
of
a
partnership,
a
public-private
partnership-
and
that
was
really
what
it
was
focused
on.
D
It
wasn't
focused
on
a
municipally
owned
internet,
but
one
of
the
first
things
that
it
talked
about
was
really
creating
a
broadband
working
group.
You
know
these
stakeholders
that
would
be
coming
up
with
the
community
consensus
on
what
the
specifics
might
be
as
an
alternative
to
the
high-speed
network
and
really
making
some
recommendations.
D
Another
recommendation
is
really
to
review
the
city
policies
to
to
determine
ways
to
make
it
easier
to
incent
private
industry
to
build
broadband
within
the
city.
So
I
guess
the
idea
is,
you
know,
is:
are
there
any
of
our
regulations
that
are
making
it
harder
for
the
private
sector
to
to
deliver
broadband?
So
that
would
be
something
that
the
that
working
group
would
be
looking
at
really
and
to
charge
that
broadband
working
group
with
reviewing
the
business
models,
all
the
different
technologies
that
are
available
and
that
are
identified.
D
So
there
are
a
lot
of
different
ways
of
delivering
the
broadband
and
then
finally,
really
to
request
issues
for
proposals
or
requests
for
interest
to
private
sector
bandwidth
providers
to
identify
a
sort
of
a
partnership
with
that
to
look
at
what
we
can.
D
It
went
then
went
on
in
that
study
to
talk
about
some
options
and
they're
they're
a
little
bit
complex.
I
don't
understand
exactly
all
of
the
technology
behind
it,
but
the
first
option
was
really
the
fiber
to
home,
which
was
using
a
new
provider
backbone
and
when
they
looked
at
the
cost
over
the
entire
city,
it
was
about
44
million
dollars.
D
D
For
that
that
model,
the
second
option
was
really
using
the
existing
backbone,
but
that
again
was
a
fiber
to
the
home
network,
and
that
was
about
a
16
million
dollar
cost,
with
a
return
on
investment
in
about
almost
three
years,
and
then
the
the
third
one
was
using
more
of
a
wi-fi
type
network
sort
of
creating
a
grid
of
not
wi-fi
capability,
and
that
was
about
a
nine
nine
point.
D
Two
million
dollar
cost
with
the
return
on
investment
in
three
three
or
four
years,
so
that
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
good
recommendations
in
there.
I
think
you
know
that
study
at
least
should
be
considered
a
starting
point
for
anybody
who's
who's,
trying
to
take
this
further
to
to
go
through
that
stuff.
D
To
look
at
what
the
recommendations
are
to
to
look
at
what
other
models
are
out
there,
but
then
I
think
you
have
to
get
through
some
of
the
regulatory
hurdles,
so
there
may
be
some
issues
related
to
the
public
service
commission
in
terms
of
a
city
owning
its
own
broadband,
and
you
know
it's
kind
of
a
if
the
taxpayers
are
are
paying
for
it,
but
then
you're
providing
free
internet
to
a
lot
of
people.
Is
that
unfair
competition?
D
D
So
one
of
the
thoughts
I
had
in
general
was
really
to
in
this
study.
There
is
some
recommendation
not
just
recommendations
but
there's
some
surveys.
The
problem
with
the
surveys
is
they
talk
about
sort
of
raw
numbers.
How
many
people
in
the
survey
didn't
have
access
to
broadband,
not
necessarily
because
there's
no
gap
in
coverage,
but
how
many
didn't
have
it
because
of
costs?
D
And
then
I
think
you
know
if
you're
looking
at
this
from
a
citywide
perspective,
you
probably
know
where
those
gaps
not
just
in
cover
jar,
but
where
are
the
larger
gaps,
at
least
from
a
mapping
perspective
where
people
can't
afford
internet
and
start
in
geographic
areas
rather
than
trying
to
to
blanket
the
entire
city.
So
those
are
kind
of
my
sort
of
first
first
blush
thoughts
on
this
entire
thing.
You
know,
I
think
it's
again.
There
was
a
lot
of
work
that
went
into
the
initial
study.
D
B
Thank
you,
chris,
the
the
I
have
it
here,
the
working
group
that.
B
Entertained
this
that
got
this
study
going
included
the
albany
public
library,
the
downtown
and
central
avenue
bids,
a
city
school
district
of
albany,
green
tech
charter,
school,
the
albany
housing
authority,
dan
herring,
who
was
a
council
member
at
the
time
the
albany
promise
the
center
for
technology
and
government
at
the
university
at
albany
and
business
leaders.
So
that's
important
to
keep
in
mind
who
you
know
who
initiated
a
lot
of
this?
E
I
was
looking
for
the
unmute
button.
Sorry,
a
little
bit
of
a
delay
there.
We
got
a
broadband
feasibility
study
rfp,
which
is
request
for
proposal.
I
don't
see
the
recommendations.
Is
there
another
thing
that
I'm
missing.
C
Tom,
I
just
want
to
be,
if
I
can
just
say
that
was
done
in
2015.
So
just
one.
B
E
My
department
was
involved
with
that.
We
worked
with
center
for
technology
and
government.
I
kind
of
remember
my
boss
used
to
go
the
meeting,
so
you
know,
and
I
think
they
were
trying
to
push
for
the
wi-fi.
But
you
know
that
was
a
long
time
ago.
Technology's
changed
since
then.
So.
B
F
F
There
are
more
resources
out
there
today
and
more
outside
potential
dollars
to
be
able
to
assist
with
the
course
than
there
were
five
years
ago
and
part
of
it
because
of
what
we've
gone
through
the
last
year
and
the
increase
visibility
of
the
necessity
and
the
dependence
that
we
are
on
on
technology
and
on
the
internet.
Specifically.
F
F
You
know
to
wire.
The
city
was
higher
than
that,
so
I'm
trying
to
get
an
understanding
of
what,
what
to
the
three
different
stages,
actually
provide
services
to
our
residents
and
what
would
that
be
a
one-time
course
or
what
would
be
the
maintenance
cost
to
try
to
do
any
of
the
three
that
was
already
reviewed.
B
That
that
was
44
million
right,
but
yes,.
G
B
I
think
that's
the
kind
of
thing
that
a
task
force
or
commission
would
look
into
you
know
kind
of
pick
up
on
on
some
of
these
recommendations
and
possible
costs.
F
What
did
the
last?
I
again,
I
haven't,
had
an
opportunity
to
look
at
the
report
and
I
apologize
for
that.
But
what
did
that
get
us,
based
on
the
last
study
that
we
already
did?
What
did
that
get
us?
I
mean
did
that
it
was
that
just
using
the
existing
lines,
or
was
that
creating
new
lines
to
actually
be
independent
from
well,
where
we
currently
are
maybe,
and
if
no
one
has
the
answer-
that's
fine.
B
C
Well,
if
I
could
just
add-
and
I
think
that's
that
will
be
a
question
for
most
of
from
the
last
committee-
that
put
it
together-
but
let's
face
it
all
right
like
if
we
put
this
commission
together
and
they
determined
that
this
is
something
that
is
feasible
and
it's
logistic.
C
It
will
be
expensive.
It's
no
surprise.
It
will
be
the
job
of
the
committee
to
examine
the
issue
municipal
internet
and
how
it's
going
to
set
up
in
albany.
There's,
no
doubt
that
it
will
be
expensive,
but
let's
think
about
what
valuable
infrastructure
isn't
expensive
right
when
our
water
system
was
built,
it
was
expensive,
but
nonetheless
it
remains
a
valuable
asset
to
the
city
that
no
one
want
to
give
up.
The
same
could
be
said
for
our
streets.
Our
sidewalk
internet
is
now
a
vital
utility.
C
B
Does
anyone
have
any
thoughts
as
far
as
reconstituting
this
work?
This
work
group
that
began
some
of
this
work
and
or
any
other
comments
people
have.
E
B
Oh,
you
know
what
michelle.
B
Gabby,
actually,
I
don't
think,
did
it
go
out
to
members
michelle
which
one
can
you
send
out?
The
chris
spencer
had
sent
out
the
link
to
the
broadband
attachment
to
the
broadband
and
feasibility
study,
rfid.
B
D
We
probably
just
want
you
to
sorry
just
your
question
on
the
44
million.
That
was
again
that
was
the
new
backbone
solution,
so
that
was
really
about
creating
an
entire
new
infrastructure.
You
know,
and
I
think
what
it
was
saying
is,
although
that's
the
optimum
solution,
it
might
not
be
necessary
for
another
carrier
to
blanket
the
entire
city
again,
you
know
there's
because
there's
a
lot
of
redundancy
there.
So
that's
what
the
44
million
was.
B
Our
people
are
our
folks
in
favor
of
moving
forward
reestablishing
the
task
force
or
putting
out
a
request
for
applications
for
members
to
serve
on
a
commission
to
take
the
next
steps
and
take
a
closer
look
at
how
we
can
expand
internet
access.
Can
we.
I
Choice,
yes,
can
we
I
think
we
should
start
a
commission.
I
think
that
we
should
just
go
to
the
to
the
next
step.
I
don't
want
to
move
it
out
of
committee
as
of
yet
because
I
haven't
read,
read
at
all,
neither
because
I
just
got
it
today,
I'm
like
tom,
you
know,
and
I
like
to
read
it
a
little
bit
more
closely.
So
can
we
start
a
little
task,
like
you
just
said,
and
come
back
I
mean
and
that
granted.
I
realized
this
this.
I
What
russell
was
saying
saying
it's
really
crucial
that
we
all
have
vital
internet,
but
it's
also
crucial
that
we
also
know
where
the
money
is
coming
from.
J
Yeah,
so
this
is
interesting,
I'm
betwixt
in
between
on
this,
I
see
a
significant
benefit
to
passing
legislation
that
creates
a
commission
as
opposed
to
reconstituting
the
advisory
committee
or
whatever.
J
That
was
because
here
we
are,
we
don't
have
guidance,
we
don't
have
a
result
from
that,
and
this
is
looking
for
something
that
is
potentially,
I
want
to
say,
more,
informative
and
actionable
for
us
than
to
act
on
the
creation
of
this
commission
tests
them
with
studying
and
issuing
a
report
with
findings
that
include
the
costs
and
benefits
associated
with
the
logistical
requirements
with
creating
a
municipal
internet
service
and
consideration
of
how
other
municipalities
have
created
their
municipal
internet
services,
identification,
identification
of
all
necessary
or
advisable
city
and
state
legislation,
development
of
an
ideal
model
of
a
municipal
internet
service.
J
I
review
and
available
options
that
would
minimize
financial
cost
of
creating
such
infrastructure.
J
J
I
think
this
is
a
laudable
goal.
I
think
it's
worthwhile
to
study
this
some
more
and
the
commission
might
be
the
appropriate
place
to
do
it.
J
I
am
concerned
then,
about
the
burden,
and
I
don't
think
that
we've
discussed
this,
the
burden
of
who
staffs
this,
how
you
you
know
who
is
going
to
be
drafting
this
report
all
right,
there's
a
part
of
me
that
thinks
awusu
should
be
the
chairperson
and
he
should
be
ultimately
responsible
for
drafting
the
report
with
all
of
the
details,
which
then
would
refer
to
some
of
these
documents
and
some
of
these
other
things
that
we're
now
currently
referring
to,
and
maybe
updating
some
of
that.
J
But
I
am
concerned
still
then
how
much
how
burdensome
this
is
and
how
how
we,
essentially
we,
whether
it's
us,
the
council
or
the
planning
department
or
and
since
planning
department
is
here,
is
you
know,
representing
a
staff
where
do
they
come
up
with
the
resources
to
assist
this
commission
in
taking
on
this
fairly
weighty
analysis
and
and
recommendations,
etc?
J
So
that's
why
I'm
betwixt
in
between
is
there
is
we
have
a
lot
of
things
going
on
in
the
city
a
lot
of
burden?
Do
we
do
we?
I
want
to
say
in
a
sense:
do
we
the
council
punt
on
this,
or
do
we
dig
in
further
and
come
up
with
some
more
detailed
next
steps
for
this,
so
that
we
move
this
forward
potentially
more
quickly
than
the
development
of
a
commission?
J
So
we
could
create
our.
We
could
create
an
ad
hoc
committee
within
the
council
and
have
that
committee
bring
in
advisors
et
cetera,
but
then
I'm
also
concerned
about.
We
have
jr
with
a
lot
of
other
tasks
that
he
needs
to
be
performing.
We
have
a
lot
on
our
plate
so
anyway.
Those
are
those
are
my
thoughts.
I
I
welcome
further
discussion.
H
Hi,
I
I
think
it's
been
a
really
great
discussion.
That
then
has
happened,
and
I
appreciate
the
different
points
that
judy
just
brought
up.
I
don't
know
the
right
way
forward.
I
think
the
different
concerns
that
have
been
discussed
and
also
ideas
that
have
been
presented
have
been
really
helpful.
I
just
I
kind
of
wanted
to
speak
because
I
think
the
pandemic
has
highlighted
how
much
of
an
issue
this
is
and
my
as
people
know
I
work
with
the
albany
fund
for
education.
H
I
serve
on
that
board
and
one
of
the
things
that
we've
been
doing
is
giving
getting
computers
to
kids
that
don't
have
computers,
and
so
it's
it's
a
bigger
issue
than
you
can
possibly
imagine.
H
So
I
what
I
would
say,
I'm
happy
to
help
in
any
way,
but
I
also
would
keep
in
mind
that
whatever
the
solution
is
to
get
broadband
or
internet
access,
whatever
it
is
to
our
residents,
I
think
that
that
should
be
the
ultimate
goal
and,
however,
we
can
do
that
in
the
most
efficient
best
manner
possible
should
should
be
the
the
way
that
we
move
forward.
So
if
it's
municipal
broadband,
fantastic,
it's
I
know
the
library,
I
think
that
they
just
started
doing
wi-fi
in
their
parking
lots.
H
So
it's
possible
that
partnerships
are
a
good
way
forward,
but
I
just
I
wanted
to
speak
because
I
have
become
aware
of
the
urgency
at
a
much
higher
level,
with
my
involvement
with
afe,
and
I
so
I
appreciate
the
conversation
I'm
happy
to
help
and
I
hopefully
will
be
able
to
do
something
to
move
the
whole
thing
forward.
E
I
had
a
chance
to
go
over
the
the
link.
Thank
you
chris
that
really
useful.
We
gotta
act
on
this.
Obviously,
will
we
be
able
to
get
something
like
this?
You
know
for
the
semester.
You
know
this
is
the
start
of
the
third
semester
for
the
school
district,
probably
not,
but
moving
forward.
We
really
got
to
do
something.
Now
I
don't
know.
I
know
jared's
here
he's
going
to
be
talking
about
the
franchise
agreement.
E
I
know
time
warner
now
or
spectrum
has
is
offering
a
40
meg
like
discounted
service
for
especially
for
school
aged
children,
and
it
was
like
20
or
30
dollars
a
month.
It
was
halfway
affordable,
but
I
think
putting
pressure
on
them
by
forming
a
commission
or
whatever
we're
going
to
do.
I
think
will
be
useful
and
you
know
backing
up
what
what
ginny
said.
E
We
should
involve
the
school
district
and
the
library
in
discussions
that
you
know
whether
it's
a
commission
or
whatever
we
decide
to
move
forward
with,
but
this
report
looks
excellent
from
what
I'm
looking
at.
Of
course,
the
the
numbers
are
going
to
change
the
the
cost
of
equipment
and,
but
it
looks
like
they
got
most
of
the
technology
down,
so
I
don't
think
we'll
have
to
do
another
study.
I
think
this
study
would
work
so
you
know
I
I'd
like
to
move
forward.
You
know
as
soon
as
possible.
So
that's
my
opinion.
B
I
agree,
but
I
like
judy's
idea
of
an
ad
hoc
committee
just
to
kind
of
get
this
jump
started
and
that
is
not
to
say
we're
not
going
to
do
the
commission
at
all,
but
I
think
like,
as
tom
you
mentioned,
to
get
that
input
for
from
some
of
the
other
players.
Here
I
think,
would
be
really
helpful
to
and
like
joyce
said,
a
lot
of
us
haven't
had
a
chance
to
really
review
this
document.
B
F
Thank
you.
I
think
I
think
we
need
to
move
on
this
now
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
you
know.
F
F
So
I
think
now
is
the
time
to
act.
I
think
now
is
the
time
where
there's
going
to
be
funding
available
from
outside
sources,
from
potentially
the
federal
government,
potentially
from
private
sources
that
are
out
there,
that
we
want
to
be
able
to
tap
into
where
two
years
from
now
it
might
not
be
there.
F
You
know
we
may
have
a
different
focus,
so
I
I
think
we
need
to
act
now.
I'm.
H
F
Sure,
what's
the
fastest
way
to
act,
I
do
want
it
to
be
a
group
of
people
that
are
going
to
be
fair
and
unbalanced
and
balanced,
not
unbalanced,
fair
and
balanced,
and
and
say
it
how
it
is,
show
the
truth
to
it:
the
full
cost
to
it
and
very
open
with
the
and
transparent
with
all
of
it,
because
I
do
think
it's
gonna
have
a
hefty
fee,
but
if
we
can
find
resources
from
outside
outside
the
city
and
and
the
key
is
to
make
it
so
that
everybody
has
access
to
it.
F
G
Oh
thanks,
so
there's
no
disagreement
here
in
terms
of
the
importance
of
the
issue
and
the
need
to
move
forward.
There
seems
to
be
like
three
points
of
I
don't
know,
we'll
call
entry
into
the
issue,
you
might
say,
there's
the
immediate
intermediate
and
the
longer
term.
The
immediate
issue
is
dealing
with
the
franchise
agreement
which
is
before
us.
The
current
franchise
agreement
is
actually
expired,
and
so
there
are
ongoing
discussions
now,
regarding
extension
or
renewal
or
whatever,
regarding
the
franchise
agreement.
G
So
that's
an
immediate
issue
before
us
in
terms
of
one
way.
As
far
as
getting
at
the
issue
I
mean
the
issue
is
making
expanding
and
making
broadband
availability
across
the
board.
The
the
other
point,
the
next
point,
intermediate
area
is
this
millennium
study
and
the
recommendations
to
what
extent
that
they
were
followed
up
on
and
to
what
extent
do
they
provide
options
as
far
as
expansion
and
moving
forward?
That's
a
report.
That's
been
done.
G
That's
out
there
that
can
be
used
longer
term
is
the
idea
of
examining
the
possibility
of
a
municipally
owned
internet
or
broadband
system.
So
you
have
an
immediate
need
to
expand
the
availability
of
broadband
and,
what's
on
the
table
right
now,
we
have
the
franchise
agreement
issue
that
that's
under
negotiation.
Now,
that's
one
point
of
accessing
that
you
have
this
millennium
report,
which
provides
a
lot
of
information,
recommendations
and
data.
It's
an
opportunity
to
have.
G
How
do
we
use
that
report
also
to
build
on
something
and
the
longer
term
moving
forward
will
take
a
serious
look
at
the
the
feasibility
of
developing
a
the
city-owned
system.
The
city-owned
system
is
not
going
to
address
the
me.
The
immediate
need
that
we
have
right
now.
So,
let's
look
at
what?
How
can
we
get
to
the
immediate
need,
while
also
on
the
horizon?
Looking
at
you
know
down
the
road?
What
is
the
longer-term
solution
that
we
want?
So
those
are
my
thoughts.
G
You
can
also
reconfigure
the
commission
to
expand
its
charge
to
include
some
of
the
immediate
issues.
I
don't
think
the
franchise
agreement
is
separate
that
you
can't
put
the
franchise
agreement
in
there,
but
to
look
at
not
just
the
issue
of
a
city-owned
system,
but
also
look
at
some
of
the
issues.
The
opportunities
that
may
have
come
out
of
the
millennium
report.
G
I
think
you
do
need
to
house
this
commission
someplace,
as
we
do
other
commissions,
because
right
now
it's
just
standing
out
there
and
I
hate
to
say
you
know.
Maybe
the
planning
department
is
the
most
logical
place
to
put
it,
but
you
do
need
to
have
place
it
somewhere
and
establish
some
staffing
for
it
as
well,
because
right
now,
it's
just
hanging
out
there
as
a
commission
without
any
home
without
any
staff,
without
any
resources,
basically
to
to
carry
out
its
mission.
G
I
think
when
we
get
you
know
when
we
can
get
into
some
discussions
as
to
what
some
of
the
current
areas
that
we're
looking
at,
because
we
did
retain
a
third
party
to
work
with
us
on
that.
But
we
can,
you
know,
include
elements
in
our
franchise
agreement
to
the
extent
we
have
the
leverage
to
expand
access
and
availability,
including
affordability.
G
If
that's
an
issue,
but
I
think
you
know
jared
could
probably
review
one
more
in
terms
of
where
we
are
right
now,
with
those
discussions
and
some
of
the
options.
G
B
G
Mean
you
know
all
I
see
a
number
of
ways
we
need
to
address
this,
the
more
immediate
and
then
the
longer
term,
which
I
think
is
what
also
is
posing.
C
Yeah,
I
would
agree
with
what
richard
is
saying
that
again
we
we,
we
should
focus
on
what
we
could
do
immediately,
but
we
should
also
focus
on
this
commission
as
it
relates
to
having
a
municipal
owned
internet.
There
were
some
people
that
I
spoke
to.
C
That
was
part
of
the
previous
study,
scott
from
the
albany
public
library,
and
he
has
told
me
that
the
group,
or
even
that,
didn't
go
far
enough
and
that
he
supports
this
local
law,
this
commission
to
be
put
together
and
last
time
he
spoke
at
the
meeting.
I
couldn't
get
him
here
today,
but
he
strongly
believes
that
this
is
a
step
in
the
right
direction
and
you
know
kathy.
C
C
The
common
council
could
appoint
five
people,
and
the
mayor
could
appoint
five
people,
so
some
of
the
people
that
were
part
of
the
previous
commission,
maybe
they
might
be
interested
in
being
part
of
this
commission,
but,
like
chris
spencer,
said
this
is
essentially
compare
apples
and
oranges,
because
this
my
local
law
is
to
focus
on
city
owned
and
operated
municipal
internet,
where
the
study
that
was
done
before
was
looking
at
more
of
a
partnership
between
the
city
and
a
private
sector.
C
So
in
my
you
know,
people
I
believe
that
we
could
do
both
where
we
could
pass
this
local
law
and
try
to
put
the
commission
together.
I
know
scott
has
already
shown
interest
already
and
would
be
more
than
happy
to
chair
a
commit
local
og
commission
that
we
put
together.
There
are
other
people
that
I've
spoken
to.
C
That
would
be
more
than
happy
to
be
part
of
this
commission,
so
you
know
I
speak
to
demonstration
about
this
issue
and
they're
they're
like
they're,
okay,
with
the
like,
with
putting
a
commission
together
to
do
this.
We
just
got
to
find
people
that
would
be
interested
I'll.
Tell
you
this.
I
already
spoken
to
scott
I've
spoken
to
several
members
of
our
community.
C
That
would
be
part
of
this
commission
because
people
are
starting
to
see
the
internet
is
no
longer
a
luxury,
it's
a
necessity,
and
while
we
could
focus
on
the
short-term
goal,
we
could
also
focus
on
a
long-term
goal,
as
it
relates
to
making
access
to
the
internet,
affordable,
reliable
and
city
owned.
B
I
I
I
don't
think
anyone
is
not
in
favor
of
the
commission.
It's
just
are
we
ready
to
make?
I
mean
people
are
bringing
up
some
concerns
about
where
the
commission
will
be
housed,
who
you
know
what
kind
of
staffing
where
you
know
funding
and
if
there's
funding
needed.
So
I
I
I'm
thinking
that
it
may
be
helpful
to
kind
of
pursue.
Some
of
those
answers
come
up
with
some
answers
for
some
of
those
questions
before
we
officially
form
the
commission,
you
know
to
take
just
take
a
little
bit
more
time.
B
Maybe
a
couple
of
a
few
council
members
to
work
on
this.
I
again
elf
other
thoughts
on
this
alfredo.
F
I
think,
for
I
think
it's
a
big
problem
in
any
big
problem.
It's
you're
looking
at
immediate
long-term,
and
I
respect
that
I
think
immediately.
If
we
really
wanted
to
address
this
problem
immediately,
we
would
be
trying
to
find
a
either
federal
funding
or
state
funding
to
create
some
type
of
voucher
program
to
help
people
pay
for
the
internet
just
like
they
have
to
pay
for
heat
and
electricity,
and
we
have
a
voucher
program
for
that.
F
It's
a
state
fund
funded
program.
So
why
not
look
to
try
to
have
some
type
of
value
program
for
the
immediate
today,
but
get
people
the
services
they
need
when
it
comes
to,
I
I
kind
of
feel
like
we
have
to
move
on
this.
F
I
I
just
I
just
feel
like
if
it's
I
feel
like
the
the
iron
is
hot.
Now
it's
like,
if
you
owned,
amc
or
game
stack
last
week,
you
know
if
you
held
a
week,
you're
probably
really
disappointed
if
you
sold
a
week
before
that
you're
probably
really
disappointed,
but
the
iron
was
hot
last
week
and
if
you
sold
last
week,
if
you
acted
last
week,
you
probably
did
pretty
well,
I
feel
like
right
now.
F
F
Okay,
I
just
would
like
for
us
to
start
getting
people
together
working
on
this
building,
all
the
information
that's
already
out
there
and
then
creating
different
paths
to
get
people
the
services
it
doesn't
have
to
mean.
I
know
this
is
one
part
of
who's
who's
saying
he
wants
to
move
forward
and
I
respect
that.
I'm
not
I'm
not
saying
that's,
not
a
potential
path,
but
what
other
paths
could
we
also
create
to
get
people?
B
Okay,
I
want
to
just
get
a
you
know
like
a
little
straw
poll
from
committee
members
who,
who
would
be
in
favor
of
moving
ahead
in
the
most
almost
immediately
either
with
the
an
ad
hoc
committee
of
a
few
council
members
to
kind
of
pursue
this
a
little
bit
more
and
answer
some
of
these
questions
about
where
this
commission
would
be
housed.
And-
and
you
know-
maybe
we
can
do
it
with
the
help
of
the
administration
or
who
would
want
to
move
forward.
B
You
know
jump
into
the
commission,
so
straw
poll
who
would
who
would
prefer
going
forward
with
more
of
an
ad
hoc
committee
and
taking
just
a
little
bit
more
time.
We
know
that
there's
this
immediate
need
raise
your
hand
if
you
do
okay,
so
that's
three
and
and
others
who
want
to
go
forward
immediately
with
the
commission
would
be
tom
and
alfredo
all
right.
So
that's
so
I
think
we're
going
to
look
at
an
ad
hoc
committee
and
who
would
be
like
who
would
be
part
of
that.
C
C
Question
is:
what's
the
opposition
to
just
doing
both
where
we
could
do
the
ad
hoc
and
just
also
pass
this
commission
like
at
the
same
time
simultaneously
like
alfredo
said
when
the
iron
is
hot.
You
know
where
we
could
do
both.
We
can
put
that
out
to
committee
together
and
also
we
can
move
this,
because,
when
this
passed,
we
could
put.
B
Up,
I
think
I
know
I
I
understand
the
urgency,
but
I
think
you
know
a
few
of
us
want
to
get
a
few
more
questions
answered
before
we
jump
into
this
judy.
B
J
You
are
muted
right.
I
I
press
the
wrong
button.
Okay,
so
my
thought
is
either
we
do
an
ad
hoc
committee
to
dig
into
this,
and
that
ad
hoc
committee
would
then
be
housed
within
the
common
council
to
immediately
get
working
on
studying
this
issue
and
coming
up
with
the
right
solution,
and
that
ad
hoc
committee
could
bring
in
experts
from
outside
that
committee
to
work
with
them
in
the
same
way
that
you
know,
we've
had
other
ad
hoc
committees
study
a
particular
issue.
Work
with
with
experts.
J
So
my
goal
would
not
be
to
do
a
ad
hoc
committee
to
then
delay
implementation
of
a
commission.
It
would
be
instead
of
a
commission
and
to
essentially
have
us,
get
right
to
it
without
there
being
these
other
additional
steps
waiting
for
us
to
do.
Rfps
and
waiting
for
us
to
you
know
interview
people
and
people
and
having
the
mayor
do
the
same,
and
and
and
just
that
process
what
you
know.
Usually
we
do.
You
know
a
three-week
notice.
J
Proper
applications
and
and
the
mayor,
and
then
you
know
and
and
then
then
you
get
to
the
point
where
okay,
so
now
we're
going
to
you
know,
appoint
the
group
and
then
the
group
starts
figuring
out
how
it's
going
to
study
this
issue
and
who
they're
going
to
rely
on,
because
I
would
assume
were
not
going.
You
know,
people
on
a
commission
need
to
be
residents
of
the
city.
J
I
would
imagine
in
some
cases
you
might
want
to
bring
in
people
from
outside
you
to
rely
on
that
might
have
more
knowledge
and
more
of
an
idea
of
how
to
proceed
with
this.
So
I
you
know,
I
I
the
reason
why,
when
you?
So,
when
you
ask
the
question,
I
just
want
to
clarify
that's
what
my
vote
is
for
when
it
when
I
say
ad
hoc
and
I
you
know-
and
I
do
think
that
it's
worthwhile
to
for
all
of
us
to
be
reading
this.
You
know
this
report.
J
I
don't
also
was
phrasing
it
as
his
is
to
let's
establish
a
municipal
internet
broadband
which
may
be-
and
I
can't
you
know-
I
really
like
the
idea
of
that.
But
that
may
not
be
really
the
best
way
to
get
at
the
whole
issue
the
quickest,
because
wow
I
mean,
then
you
got
to
figure
out.
J
You
know
the
financing
for
that
and
and
you're
saying
you're
essentially
locked
in
to
that
is
the
way
forward
when
the
ultimate
goal
is
get
essentially
everybody
having
access
to
the
internet
throughout
our
city,
one
way
or
the
other.
B
I
I
and
I
just
want
to
say
judy.
I
am
more
comfortable
with
that
as
well,
because
I
do
know
what's
entailed
in
putting
together
a
commission.
C
Kathy,
I'm
just
concerned
with,
like
the
immediacy
we
can
do
that
too,
while
focusing
on
trying
to
put
the
commission
together.
That's
why
you
know
it's
just
like
the
violence
that
we're
witnessing
in
our
city
there's
a
immediate
plan
to
address
it
and
there's
a
long-term
goal,
as
it
relates
to
eradicating
the
violence
that
we're
witnessing
in
our
city.
So
I
don't
think
it's
either
or
I
think
it
could
be
both
you
know.
So
it's
my
opinion.
E
Yeah
I
just
calculated:
I've
been
working
with
computers
and
community
telecommunications
for
47
years.
You
know,
I
don't
want
to
say
I'm
a
super
like
a
super
surgeon,
but
I
know
a
lot.
I
just
went
through
this
report.
E
I
mean
all
the
groundwork
has
been
done.
I
mean
all
the
commission
would
have
to
do
is
to
look
at
who
the
partners
would
be.
You
know,
would
we
work
with
the
university,
which
I'm
sure
would
be
open,
the
libraries,
the
school
district?
All
we're
doing
is
talking
about.
Do
we
move
forward
with
a
municipal
broadband,
and
you
know
whether
it's
you
know
if
usual
has
talked
to
the
mayor's
office,
you
know
and
we're
talking
about
housing
it.
You
know
why
couldn't
it
be
housed
corporation
council,
somebody
from
their
house
and
stuff?
B
E
I
see
the
value
of
moving
forward
because
it
gives
us
an
one
up
on
spectrum
that
spectrum
sees
that
we're
starting
to
do
something
and
even
verizon,
because
they
don't
want
to
give
us
fios.
They
start
saying
we're
going
to
do
something
they're
going
to
see
this
competition
and
maybe
they'll
jump
in,
and
maybe
we
won't
do,
the
municipal
broadband,
maybe.
K
E
Cost
will
be,
you
know,
but
I
think
just
sitting
here
and
waiting-
and
you
know,
like
several
people-
talked
about
the
irons
hot
right
now.
This
is
important.
This
is
important
for
our
citizens
to
see
that
we're
acting
to
try
to
help
them
out.
I
mean
you
know
my
son
is
doing
virtual
school.
Thank
god.
I
have
the
money
to
pay
for
the
broadband
access,
but
those
kids
that
he
knows
they
can't
do
it.
They
got
to
go
to
mcdonald's
and
sit
in
the
parking
lot
and
do
their
homework.
E
Well,
we
we
know
the
the
live,
there's
five
from
the
council
and
five
from
the
mayor's
office
I'll
be
glad
to
serve
on
on
this
type
of
you
know,
commission,
I
know
we
can
get
people
from
the
university.
I
know
we
can
probably
get
somebody
from
the
school
district.
G
B
E
You
know,
maybe
you
know
I'll
I'll,
throw
it
back
at
councilman
nani.
Do
you
know
what
do
you
think?
As
far
as
having
you
know,
support
staff
for
the
commission?
I
think
we
can
do
it,
but
yeah.
C
I
think
I
think
we
could
do
it
too.
It
could
be
a
support
staff
and
also
to
have
planning
involved.
I
think
there's
a
section
where
I
put
it,
where
any
information
that
they're
requesting
all
the
departments
will
make
available
to
this
commission.
I've
spoken
to
scott
who's,
the
executive
director
of
the
library.
This
is
something
that
I
have
to
give
him
credit.
C
E
C
E
D
Yeah
I
mean
in
reality
right
now:
we're
stretched
pretty
thin
in
terms
of
our
capacity.
I
think
we
can
definitely
pay
play
a
smart
role
in
terms
of
helping
provide
data
and
get
get
information
like
that.
But
to
you
know,
because
we're
already
running
hrc
planning
board
and
zoning
board
and
sustainability
we're
you
know
we're
kind
of
housing,
all
all
four
of
those.
So
I
don't
know
that
we
have
the
capacity
to
like
put
out
agendas
and
do
all
that
and
do
all
the
background,
coordination
and
meeting
notices
and
stuff
like
that.
D
But
you
know
we
certainly
are
there
to
help
provide
information.
Once
we
have
a
gis
consultant
on
board,
we
might
be
able
to
help
with
some
of
the
mapping,
but
I
don't
know
that
we
could
take
a
lead
on
one
at
this
point.
L
C
And
I
would
say-
and
that's
that's
sufficient
enough
for
this
commission
scott
who's
executive
director
of
the
library
he
said
he
is
a
hundred
percent
committed
into
this
endeavor.
So
you
know,
I
definitely
see
him.
There's
other.
You
know
we
have
albany
high
graduates
who
graduate
from
harvard
who's
at
harvard
who's,
also
interested
in
being
on
this
commission
and
doing
the
research
I
mean
right
now
because
of
the
pandemic.
C
No
one
is
actually
meeting
in
person,
so
most
of
this
is
going
to
be
done
online
or
it's
going
to
be
done
in
their
homes.
So
most
of
the
meetings
will
be
through
zoom.
So
when
you
say
like
staffing
it,
it
won't
be.
You
know,
like
a
traditional
commission,
where
people
come
together
in
the
office
to
figure
out
the
results
or
research
a
commission
so.
B
I
wondered
if
albany
community
development
agency
is
a
place
to.
J
So,
with
regard
to
what
council
member
anani
just
said,
having
participated,
staffed
many
councils
and
commissions
and
having
participated
in
organizations
that
didn't
have
death,
I'm
very
confused
as
to
how
we
get
an
actionable
work
product
that
that
the
council
feels
comfortable
moving
forward
on.
If
there
is
not
some
sort
of
report
issued
and
some
sort
of,
if
we're
going
to
go
with
a
municipal
internet
service,
it
requires
somebody
to
draft
the
legislation
and
make
sure
that
it
meets
all
the
requirements.
J
And
you
know
I
imagine
the
psc
will
have
some
role
in
our
site.
If
we
have
some
sort
of
municipal
internet
service,
so
there's
there's
a
couple
items
that
would
be
required
that
need
to
come
out
of
a
commission.
If
we're
not
going
to
get
a
report
and
we're
not
going
to
get
legislation,
then
I
don't
know
why
we
would
be
creating
a
commission.
C
Of
this
legislation,
this
local
law
part
39,
section
42-384
the
first
line.
It
says
that
the
commission
shall
submit
submit
a
preliminary
report
to
the
common
council
and
the
mayor
regarding
this
report,
so
I'm
not
sure
be
able
to
see
that
that
section
that
talks
about
the
powers
and
duties
of
this
commission.
But
that's
one
of
the
goals
of
this
commission-
is
to.
J
But
my
point
is:
if
you're
not
going
to
have
staff-
and
you
just
said
you-
don't
essentially
need
staff
in
the
traditional
sense
who's-
writing
that
report
where's.
Where
is
the
draft
legislation
going
to
come
from?
So
you
just
said
something
in
your
comments
just
before
this
that's
inconsistent
with
what
my
understanding
was
and-
and
you
know,
I
don't
think
that
we
can
dismiss
this
whole
idea
of
staffing
now
listen.
J
C
Draft
the
legislation
I've
done
that
before
I've
drafted
most
of
my
legislation,
okay-
and
also,
I
think
the
commission.
B
I
I
I'd
like
to
suggest
that
we
table
this
for
today
and
that
you
and
myself
and
and
anyone
else,
who's
interested,
have
some
more
conversations
about
this
and
try
to
answer
some
of
these
questions
that
are
coming
up
about
staffing
and
so
on.
B
So
I'd
like
to
move
I'd
like
to
move
on
to
I'm
going.
C
Members
I
want
to
thank
you
guys,
but
I
will
be
moving
this
out
of
committee,
so
I
just
want
to
give
you
a
heads
up.
Thank
you
very
much.
All
right
can.
F
I
think
we
need
to
act
on
this
today.
One
day,
you
know
another
either
way,
but
we
I
feel,
like
you
know
we,
we
have
a
lot
of
the
information
together
and
if
we're
gonna
move
this
forward,
then
I
say
we
take
it
on
with
the
limited
staff
that
we
have.
We
also
have
access
to
corporate
council
because
they're
part
of
our
council,
whether
they
like
it
or
not,
they're
part
of
our
team.
You
know
and
we
take
it
on-
I
I
don't
want
to
see
this
get
stalled.
F
J
My
my
gut
is
that
this
is
potentially
with
problems.
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
am,
I
think
whoever's
I
mean
we
have
some
people
who
have
indicated
that
they're
willing
to
serve
on
this.
J
I
think
that,
rather
than
allocating
specific
staff,
I
think
since
people
have
advocated
for
moving
this
forward,
as
is
without
that
being
resolved,
then
I
think
it
should
be
understood
that
the
members
of
that
commission
need
to
deal
with
putting
putting
you
know
putting
together
the
report
directly,
rather
than
our
limited
staff,
expecting
our
limited
staff
to
spend
essentially
all
their
time
providing
resources
and
reports
and
drafting
this
report
etc.
J
So
I
I
think
I
think
that
that
should
be
understood,
and
I
will
be
voting
in
favor
of
that
with
that
understanding.
J
If
somebody
wants
to
tell
me
that
I
am
wrong
with
my
understanding
that,
essentially
the
commission,
whoever
serves
on
that
commission,
not
our
staff,
not
anybody
in
the
administration,
because
we
haven't
had
those
discussions
and
because
everybody
is,
you
know,
fairly
well
taxed.
Let's
take
this
on.
J
Let's
move
it
forward:
let's
have
a
commission
who
bears
that
burden
of
producing
the
report
themselves
with
limited
reliance
on
staff,
and
so
with
that
those
are
my
comments.
B
Well,
it's
it
sounds.
Like
I
mean
what
alfredo
was
saying
is
he's
he's
saying.
Corporation
council
would
be
the
place
where
this
commission
would
be
housed.
As
part
of
his
motion
and
tom
you
seconded
that
judy.
It
sounds
like
you're
saying
that
you
don't
agree
with
that.
Unless
alfredo
you
have
other
thoughts.
F
F
Look
at
all
the
information
that's
been
where
all
the
reports
have
been
brought
in
in
the
last
five
six
years
and
then
look
for
resources
that
are
out
there
now,
and
I
guess
that's
my
biggest
fear
that
if
we,
if
we
keep
waiting
to
move
on
this
and
like
I
said,
I
don't
care
if
it's
commission
and
I
don't
care
what
we
name
it
I
just.
I
just
think
we
need
to
do
something
to
put
this
information
together
now
and
have
an
action
plan
now,
rather
than
when
those
resources
aren't
there.
F
B
J
Okay,
so
if
it
is
contingent
upon
with
that
clarification,
I
want
to
know
we
don't
have
the
authority
to
tell
the
administration
who's
going
to
staff,
what
that's
not
within
our
authority.
There
is
an
executive
branch
and
they
make
the
determinations
as
to
who
is
going
to
staff
it.
So
we
don't
have
that
information.
F
F
This
is
the
committee,
give
me
a
way
beauty
of
how
we
can
move
this
forward.
So
we're
not
talking
about
getting
the
group
together
to
talk
about
getting
the
group
together
that
you
know
that's.
I
don't
want
that.
I
mean,
let's
there's
just
there's
real
pain
out
there
and
we
all
know
it.
You
know
this
kid's
doing
the
the
schoolwork
on
their
cell
phones,
so
we
all
know
it
so.
J
J
By
having
to
do
calls
for
applications
just
to
get
the
commission
together,
which
is
like
you
know,
a
month
wasted
or
whatever,
but
and
but
there's
also,
this
issue
of
you
know
how
you
know,
how
is
this
report
gonna
get
done
in
light
of
the
fact
that
mr
spencer
is
saying-
and
I
fully
understand
it-
his
staff
is
pretty
maxed
out
at
this
point,
so
we
can't
now
just
decide,
oh
because
mr
spencer
is
here,
and
he
says
his
staff
can't
do
it.
J
J
You
move
it
forward
without
there
being
any
staff
assigned
to
it
by
us,
because
we
do
not
have
that
authority
so
take
that
out
of
your
motion
and
I
will
vote
for
it
with
the
understanding
that
the
commission
itself
may
need
to
dig
in
and
do
the
work,
and
I
want
to
remind
you
that
I
just
spent
50
hours
over
the
last
two
weeks
doing
stuff
that
otherwise,
ideally
would
have
been
done
by
staff.
But
there
wasn't
staff
to
do
it.
B
And
I
just
want
to.
I
just
want
to
say
too
that
people
who
are
selected
for
a
commission-
you
know
this
idea
of
them
doing
all
the
work.
I
can
guarantee
you
that
they
are
going
to
feel
like
you
know
the
city
that
they
pay
their
taxes
to
would
provide
some
support
staff.
I
you
know
it
is
very
difficult
to
imagine
a
commission
that
is
run.
You
know
that
is
organized
by
the
city
without
any
support
staff,
so
I
think
the
whole
that
whole
idea
is.
B
I
don't
think
it
is
workable.
It's
you
know
there
are
people
who
will
put
that
kind
of
work
in,
but
I
I
don't
think
you're
going
to
select
a
commission
find
a
commission
who's
willing
to
do
that.
They
will
expect
the
city
to
provide
that
kind
of
staffing,
and
I
agree
with
judy
that
you
know
you
can't
throw
in
a
department
here
without
having
any
kind
of
conversation
with
them
about
it
whatsoever.
B
So
I'd
like
to
suggest
that
you
either
we
form
a
small
ad
hoc
group
to
kind
of
pursue
this.
Some
of
these
questions
today
or
or
I
will
be
voting
against
it.
The
motion-
that's
on
the.
B
F
First
and
foremost
judy
you
know,
I
have
a
lot
of
respect
for
you
and
I
think
you're
a
huge
asset.
Okay.
So
so
my
question
was
very
real
and
honest
if
you
have
a
way
guide
us
because
you
you
do
that
very
well
and
that's
a
compliment
to
you.
So
you
know
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
put
that
on
the
table
because
you
know
I
know
that
I
went
through
this
and
I
didn't
find
half
the
stuff
that
you
found.
F
So
I
I
I
know,
that's
something
we
value
and
we
appreciate
so
you
know
there's
no,
there
was
there,
wasn't
a
it
attacked
it.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
put
that
put
that
up
front,
I'm
okay
with
removing
the
staff
positions,
I'm
okay
with
saying
it.
It
falls
on
on
the
commission.
F
I
just
don't
want
to
be
in
a
situation
where
you
know
we're
having
a
conversation
about
having
a
conversation.
I
just
wanted
to
have
a
conversation
about
doing
the
work
and
getting
the
information.
So
I
amend
the
motion
to
just
putting
it
on
the
commission.
The
commission
will
have
to
do
the
work
themselves.
B
Okay,
all
in
favor,
cathy.
B
Oh
thank
you
judy,
second,
to
alfredo's
motion.
Second,
all
right,
all
in
favor.
I
I
agree
with
the
wussu.
I
agree
with
you,
listen
I'm
I
I
don't
think
I'm
going
to
be
voting
because
I'm
a
little.
I
like
to
study
this
a
little
bit
more.
C
B
C
B
And
now
we'll
we're
gonna
talk
to
jared
about
the
franchise
agreement
jared
it's
jared's
still
here.
B
Hey
jared,
can
you
give
us
an
update
on
the
franchise
agreement.
K
Sure
can
so
good
evening.
Everyone
and
thank
you
for
having
me,
come
on
tonight
to
discuss
the
cable
franchise
agreement
a
little
bit
and
I
can
try
to
bring
you
all
up
to
speed,
I'm
not
sure
of
where
everyone's
awareness
is
so
I'm
just
going
to
do
a
general
overview
for
you
all
and
then
I'm
happy
to
try
to
answer
some
questions
from
there.
K
2020
and
so
after
months,
charter
came
back
to
him
with
a
proposed
renewal
agreement
that
kind
of
sat
tabled
as
things
caught
up
with
him,
transitioning
to
city
court
judge
and
then
marisa,
taking
over
and
in
the
early
months
of
the
pandemic.
Back
in,
I
would
say,
march
march
and
april,
marisa
had
approached
me
to
start
getting
the
ball
rolling
again
on
the
cable
franchise
agreement
and
and
knowing
that
again,
we
had
this
november
deadline.
K
So
essentially
we
requested
from
the
pac
this
toa
as
it's
referred
to
and
that
what
essentially
that
would
do
is
give
us
in
definite
in
an
indefinite
deadline,
to
come
to
conclusions
with
this
cable
franchise.
As
long
as
we
are
moving
forward
in
good
faith,
that
deadline
of
the
expiration
date
of
november
2020
kind
of
became
arbitrary
and
no
longer
mattered,
so
that
was
good
for
the
city
and
and
for
us
because
it
opened
up
a,
I
guess,
an
endless
timeline
so
to
speak.
K
K
You
know
the
larger
cities
of
similar
populations
and
wanted
to
discuss
with
their
folks
about
their
experiences
in
negotiating
a
cable
franchise,
and
they
gave
me
the
recommendation
to
reach
out
to
a
firm
in
dc
called
best
besting
krieger-
and
I
know
I
before
this
meeting
I
had
shared
with
michelle
a
powerpoint
as
well
as
a
breakdown
of
the
cable
franchise
that
we
currently
have
alongside
what
has
been
proposed
by
charter
spectrum
and
that
came
to
us
from
these
individuals
at
best
best
and
krieger.
K
Jerry
lederer
is
a
nation
leader
in
municipal
cable,
franchise
agreements.
He
negotiates
them
across
the
country
and
works
with
spectrum,
often,
which
is
a
reason
why
we
engaged
with
him
he's
responsible
for
negotiating
big
large
cities
from
new
york
city,
boston,
philadelphia
here
on
the
east
coast,
he's
done
things
out
on
the
west
coast
as
well:
two
smaller
municipalities
in
new
york.
You
know
westchester
rye,
there's
just
a
number
too
many
to
list,
but
he
has
great
experience
so
we
reached
out
to
jerry
and
we
said
we're
a
little.
K
We
feel
we're
like
we're
a
little
bit
behind
the
eight
ball
here
with
this
cable
franchise
renewal.
What
do
you
suggest?
We?
We
do,
and
he
really
kind
of
talked
us
off
the
ledge,
so
to
speak,
which
was
nice
and
letting
us
know
that
we're
really
not
up
against
some
major
time
crunch,
or
this
has
to
be
done
overnight.
K
It
is
imperative
that
the
city
takes
time
and
really
tries
to
vet
the
agreement,
and
so
we
are
sitting
with
a
15
year
old
agreement
that
was
entered
into
you
know
15
years
ago,
and
we
know
now
that
cable
is
not
as
cable
services
are
not
as
attractive
to
consumers
as
they
once
were.
K
So
right
now,
in
our
current
contract
we
not
only
get
the
five
percent
franchise
fee,
but
we
also
have
negotiated
a
number
of
different
services
in
kind
as
they
would
be
considered
whether
that's
services
to
public
buildings,
to
local
schools,
peg
access,
et
cetera.
So
now
the
federal
government
has
said
if,
if
a
cable
franchise
offers
these
things
to
you,
they
can
reduce
the
fee,
the
amount
of
fee
that
they
have
to
pay
to
you
as
a
municipality,
so
we're
seeing
right
now.
I
guess
this
short
of
it
all.
K
It's
a
good
thing
at
the
moment,
but
we
have
gone
ahead
and
created
an
advisory
working
group
and
there
are
a
number
of
council
members
on
that
advisory
group.
Councilmember
conte.
We
also
have
count
council,
member
ballerin
and
council
member
anane,
all
representing
the
the
council
on
that
advisory
group.
We
also
have
members
of
the
public
utility
project.
K
We
have
chiquita
de
abreu
from
the
albany
housing
authority
and
there's
a
number
of
other
individuals
that
are
all
representative
of
the
community
to
make
sure
that,
as
we
move
this
process
forward,
we
are
getting
a
well-rounded
voice
at
the
table
and
making
sure
that
we
have
discussions
so
back
in
september,
we
did
have
an
initial
meeting
and
I
want
to
apologize
to
council
member
conti
at
this
time
too,
because
he
was
supposed
to
be
at
the
meeting,
and
I
think
we
failed
to
put
him
on
the
email
chain,
but
we
did
have
an
initial
meeting.
K
I
know
council
member
nane
was
there,
I'm
not
sure
if
alfredo
was-
and
I
I
apologize
if
you
were,
but
we
did
have
an
initial
meeting
where
they
kind
of
just
ran
through
for
the
working
group.
What
is
the
cable
franchise?
Our
attorneys
did
the
outside
counsel
that
we're
utilizing.
What
is
a
cable
franchise?
What
can
you
ask
for
what
can't
you
ask
for
and
how
does
this
process
move
forward?
K
K
K
So
those
are
all
considerations
that
we
will
have
to
to
make,
and
I
know
the
mayor
has
addressed
the
desire
to
put
a
focus
on
this.
She
also
understands
that
we
are
in
a
position
that
kind
of
leaves
us
better
off
right
now
at
the
moment
than
if
we
seek
this
renewed
contract,
where
we
would
lose
some
things,
but
maybe
we
can
negotiate
for
other
things
that
have
yet
to
be
seen.
K
So
there
is
attention
to
it,
but
as
fast
as
we
want
to
move
is
still
a
question
that
we
have
to
kind
of
get
an
answer
to
so
I
know
I
bounced
around
a
little
bit,
but
I
I
hope
that
that
kind
of
gives
you
a
general
idea
of
where
we
are
and
what
we're
looking
at
and
I'm
happy
to
try
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
K
I
will
say
that,
as
this
process
goes
forward,
we
have
discussed
with
our
outside
counsel
the
prospect
of
having
them
address
all
of
you
as
well,
because
they
are
much
more
knowledgeable
than
I
am
seeing
as
that's
kind
of
the
practice
area
of
law
that
they
specify
in.
But
as
we
get
further
down
the
line,
that
may
be
an
option
as
well.
B
Thank
you
jared
questions
or
comments.
Tom
holly.
E
Yeah
jared
one
of
the
things
I
heard
some
years
ago
and
actually
mayor
jennings,
was
still
in
office.
Is
that
verizon
didn't
want
to
bring
the
fios
in
because
they
couldn't
do
the
tv
portion,
which
back
then
was
more
important
than
it
is
as
you
mentioned
today?
Is
that
true?
Can
we
have
more
than
one
provider
provide?
K
K
How
do
we
entice
them
to
want
to
provide
their
services
within
the
city
of
albany
and-
and
I'm
hopeful
that
maybe
our
outside
council
has
had
some
experience
in
that
that
isn't
something
that
we've
flushed
out
too
much
yet,
as
I
said,
we
just
had
a
basic
meeting
back
in
september,
but
we
do
recognize
that
the
internet,
as
we've
been
talking
about
tonight,
is
also
I'm
sure
something
you're
all
interested
in
learning
about,
and
the
problem
with
internet
under
a
cable
franchise
agreement.
K
Is
you
can't
regulate,
cable
or
you
can
assume
you
can't
regulate
things
like
broadband
and
internet
under
the
agreement?
You
also
telephone
services,
that's
outside
the
scope
of
this,
and
we
can't
deny
a
cable
franchise
agreement
if
they
don't
want
to
provide
us
with
specific
internet
services
to
our
municipality.
That
is
something
that's
been
litigated.
However,
it
is
still
something
that
we
can
discuss
and
negotiate
with
them
and
hopefully
find
a
way
or
leverage
to
get
them
to
want
to
bring
that
internet
to
us.
K
B
F
Thank
you
yeah,
but
I
left
that
meeting
in
september
very
deflated.
F
G
Can
I
just
make
one
comment
before
you
go
further,
just
noting
that
this
is
a
public
meeting,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
nothing,
we
say
or
or
questions
or
whatever
might
get
into
the
issue
of
our
negotiation
and
jared
I
mean
just
you're
gonna
have
to
make
that
determination
if
that
is
but
which
we
can
go
into
executive
sessions.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
all
understand
that
and
that
we're
not
talking
about
anything
in
a
public
meeting
that
might
be
of
a
confidential
nature
that
relates
to
contract
discussions.
G
F
No,
I
understand,
and
I
think
many
people
who
are
listening
to
what
gerald
is
saying
right
now
probably
feel
a
little
deflated
as
well.
You
know,
specifically
when
we
just
had
this
other
conversation
about
internet,
and
you
know
what
he
just
he
just
mentioned.
K
Yeah,
so,
as
far
as
since
the
new
administration
took
over
in
in
dc,
I
haven't
heard
of
any
new
rulings
coming
out
from
the
fcc
or
any
court
cases.
We
also
haven't
been
updated
by
our
council,
and
I
know
that
that's
something
that
they
do
monitor
closely.
So
I
don't
think
that
there's
been
time
yet
for
any
of
that
development,
but
it
should
something.
Come
up,
it's
going
to
be
on
our
radar
and
we'll
make
sure
that
we
address
it.
B
K
C
Yeah,
do
you
know
that
you're
doing
a
great
job
by
the
way.
B
Hey
we're
moving
on
to
a
discussion
of
ordinance,
46,
122-20
technical
amendments
to
the
usda,
so
a
lot
more
work
has
been
done
by
judy
and
others
to
look
for
problems
with
the
most
current
draft
and
brad
glass
has
compiled
all
those
issues
in
a
document,
and
I
don't
know
how
best
to
proceed.
B
L
I
would
just
say
if
there's
anything
that
anyone
has
noted
that
that
wasn't
in
there
I
tried
to
list
them
out
by
my
page,
so
you
could
source
them
and
did
have
a
conversation
with
councilmember
deutsche
this
afternoon,
and
she
pointed
out
a
couple
things
that
I
had
I
had
missed.
One
of
them
was
a
rather
lengthy
table
that
I
reformatted
and
added
in
there.
B
H
J
Yes,
thank
you.
I
do
appreciate
brad,
having
put
everything
that
we
need
to
address
right
now
in
in
the
code,
some
some
in
this
chart.
There
are
some
things,
many
ambiguities
and
other
things
that
were
raised
by
me
and
kathy
by
by
you
in
some
of
your
comments
that
are
really
not
technical
changes.
They
really
do
require
clarifications
and
potential
change
in
the
meaning
of
them
that
you
know
I've
isolated
them
in
in
my
memos
in
the
third
section.
J
So
these
this
chart
does
not
include
anything
in
that
third
section
of
it
and
and
the
goal
is
then
we
will
take
that
those
issues
and
those
further
changes
up
when
we're
looking
at
the
overall
document
and
substantive
changes
and
clarifications.
J
Mr
glass,
I
I
appreciate
the
challenges
that
you
faced
in,
adding
in
a
portion
of
a
chart
that
had
been
it,
and
I
do
want
to
note
that
the
foot
you
added
a
new
footnote
on.
I
think
it
now
shows
up
on
page
four.
J
Right
so
that
change
should
be
made
before
we
do
anything
with
it
before
you
pass
it
on
to
general
code.
Also,
I
note
on
on
page
two,
there
was
some
language
that
we
discussed
that
you
were
struggling
with.
I've
been
struggling
with
with
regard
to
the
contextual
setbacks.
Where
is
it
see?
This
is
why
I
don't
like.
I
tried,
not
printing
this
out.
J
L
So
I
I
do
know
what
you're
referencing
and
I
think
there
were
a
number
of
changes
or
at
least
a
couple
changes,
and
I
think
I
thought
we
had
agreed
upon
the
first
part,
but
not
upon
the
replacement
of
adjacent
structure
with
nearest
structure.
We
were
going
to
leave
that,
but
I
left
the
remaining
changes
because
they
seem
to
be
still
pertinent,
clarify.
J
It
still
leaves
a
big
question
mark
because
we
haven't
addressed
that
so
I'm
I
I
just
wanted
to
know
that
and
I'm
okay
with
that
and-
and
I
have
had
an
opportunity
to
review
everything
and
compare
it
to
you
know
the
notes
in
mind-
and
I
note
for
everybody's
benefit-
that
our
goal
is
to
transmit
this
to
general
code,
along
with
the,
I
think,
it's
for
usdo
code
changes,
ordinances
that
we
have
passed
that
amend
the
usda,
which
would
include
mr
howie's
and
the
blood
plasma
and
some
changes
to
the
blue
roof.
L
I
have
six,
and
and
two
of
them
are
the
green
roof-
blue
blue
roof.
There
was
the
initial
ordinance
and
then
there
was
a
second
and
then
there
was
a
really
minor
one
related
to
a
change
to
the
flood
floodplain
map
that
was
referenced
so.
L
The
blood
plasma,
the
signs,
the
waivers
and,
let's
be
forgetting
one.
J
So,
with
regard
to
next
steps,
you're
going
to
be
transmitting
this
to
gen
code,
along
with
those
to
get
the
corrections.
J
I
noted,
in
my
conversation
with
mr
glass
today
that
mr
conte
had
recommended
that
the
council
not
act
on
passing
this
until
we
have
back
those
changes,
and
I
I
do
think
that
that
is
appropriate.
I
you
know
the
question
is:
do
we
hold
this
in
committee
until
we
get
that
back?
J
I
kind
of
feel
like
it
is
better
my
preferences
for
it
to
remain
in
committee,
especially
since
potentially
we're
going
to
get
these
things
back
from
gen
code
within
the
next
few
days.
Hopefully
in
time
you
know
for
you
to
get
on
the
the
agenda
for
the
county
committee
plan,
the
county
planning
board
anyway.
If
we
get
them
back
shortly,
then
hopefully
we
can
have
a
very
brief
meeting
in
which
we've
had
an
opportunity,
then
to
proof
that
document
with
the
changes
in
it.
J
I
kind
of
feel
like
that's
our
obligation
to
do
as
opposed
to
passing
something
on
to
the
council.
There
is
also
the
issue
I've
raised
a
couple
times
now.
The
cover
legislation
does
not
make
it
clear
that
we're
doing
a
repeal
and
a
replace
and
also
the
sponsors
memo.
I
think,
to
the
extent
that
we
have
made
something
that
is
arguably
slightly
beyond
a
technical
change
in
terms
of
a
just,
a
grammatical,
correction,
etc,
where
we've
actually
change
to
set
back
in
one
location
to
match
in
another
there.
J
There
are
a
couple
of
those
that
I
think
that
it
is
appropriate
for
us
to
include
in
the
sponsor's
memo
to
note
that
there
are.
There
are
those
things
now
that
we've
backed
out
some
of
the
changes
that
were
at
issue.
It's
very
that's
going
to
be
very
few,
but
I
do
think
that
that
needs
to
be
taken
care
of
before
we
actually
vote
that
out.
But
I
don't
think
that
that
prevents
mr
glass
from
going
ahead
and
going
to
gen
code
and
asking
them
to
make
the
changes
reflected
here.
L
I
I
have
I've
communicated
with
them,
they're
expecting
it.
I
did
not
get
a
commitment
as
to
when,
but
I'm
going
to
press
them
hard,
because
I
think
a
lot
of
these
changes
do
come
back
to
mistakes
that
they
made.
L
B
And
your
thoughts
about
some
of
judy's
other
comments
about
changing
the
legislation
and
the
sponsors
memo
to
reflect.
I
G
Can
I
just
richard
so
so?
Procedurally,
what
you?
What
you
need
to
do
is
following
this
one
judy
the
ordinance
needs
to
be
amended,
so
it's
actually
what
I
believe
we're
doing.
It
would
be
repealing
the
existing
usdo
in
its
entirety
and
enacting
the
new
usdo,
which
is
what
you
get
back
from
general
code,
which
we'll
have
because
we
don't
have
a
red
line
version
that
under
our
rules,
can
show
the
additions
and
strikes
and
ads.
G
So
the
only
way
to
do
it
is
to
strike
the
whole
repeal
the
existing
code
and
reenact
it
with
the
revised
version
that
you
get
from
from
general
code.
I
we
can't
act
on
it,
though,
until
we
have
the
final
copy,
so
the
council
can't
vote
on
something
unless
it
has
the
final
copy
back
before
them.
B
Okay
is
that
jr.
J
B
B
We'll
have
to
get
that
information
to
jr
about
updating
the
sponsors
memo.
J
So
this
document
that
that
brad
has
provided
us
with
actually
now
revised,
does
not
reflect
all
the
changes
made
in
in
the
clean
copy.
That,
arguably,
would
be
substantive
change.
J
There
were
a
couple
places
where
I
identified
issues
as
it
being
a
arguably
substantive
change,
but
I
personally-
and
I
think
the
committee
in
our
discussion
last
time
agreed
that
those
were
appropriate
changes
to
be
made.
So
that's
why
I
was
you
know,
I'm
I'm
glad
to
work
on.
You
know
the
sponsor's
memo.
Somebody
needs
to
revise
the
okay.
G
B
Okay,
so
then
it
sounds
like
we're
going
to
meet
again
as
soon
as
we
get
the
revised
document
back
from
general
code
and
judy
you're
going
to
you
agreed
to
work
on
the
sponsors
memo
to
update
it
right.
J
Okay,
somebody
to
make
the
changes
to
the
legislation.
I
do
one.
I
think
that
we
have
a
meeting
planned
for
before
our
next
council
meeting.
B
We
have
we
have
a
meeting.
The
next
meeting
is
the
16th
and
that's
to
discuss
local
law
m
of
2020.
That's
the
demolition,
historic
resource,
commission
and
demolition
procedures.
Shall
we
see
if
we
can
finish
it
up?
B
Okay
and
michelle,
yes,
could
you
add,
then,
to
the
agenda
for
the
16th
this
ordinance
yeah?
Thank
you.
Wow,
okay,.
F
Thank
you
one
wanting
once
again,
I
want
to
thank
judy
because
you
know
between
the
original
14
page
and
the
additional
six
page
document.
You
know.
F
I
appreciate
that
and
I
know
how
much
time
and
that
took-
and
I
went
through
yours
and
I
found
one
that
I
had
that
wasn't
on
you,
I
felt
kind
of
like
I
got
one.
B
J
F
477
and
it's
a
situation
where
you
change
the
word
and
to
an
all
on
what
article.
F
B
F
F
F
F
I
don't
know
sections
in
that
in
that
I
don't
know
what
you
would
call
that
five
letters
or
eyes,
and
it's
just
section
the
section
three
and
it
the
simply
just
changes
an
an
and
to
an
all.
L
Tom,
I
see,
oh,
am
I
muted?
Oh
no.
I
I
see
two
ores
is
it?
Is
it
in
the
first,
the
first
sentence
there
or
towards
the
last
sentence.
H
F
K
F
It
was,
and
maybe
I
should
go
to
this
here-
we
go.
L
I
see
or
in
mine,
oh
no,
I
see
what
you're
taught
number
three
got:
it
we're
a
mixed
use
and
it
should
say-
or
I
think
that
I
think
where's
the
proper
meaning
there,
because
you
know
it's
it's
in
one
district.
Each
property
is
only
in
one
district,
so
it'd
be
one
district
or
the
other
mixed
use,
or
a
special
purpose.
District.
F
B
Any
other
comments
before
we
adjourn
and
we'll
reconvene
again.
Yes,.
A
B
A
Oh
because
it's
the
attachment,
I
can
yeah
yeah,
I
forgot
it's
an
attachment,
so
I
can
do
that.
The
other
thing
is
I
wanted
to
point
out.
Is
that
if
we're
going
to
have
this
done
on
february
16th
meeting,
this
is
not
going
to
get
onto
the
county
planning
boards
agenda
until
march,
then,
because
february
8th
is
the
deadline
to
submit
it
for
the
february
meeting.
A
G
J
I
think
any
amendment
only
if
the
code
doesn't
pick
up
everything
that
you're
asking
to
be
picked
up,
so
you
know
I
as
soon
as
they
get
it.
If
I
you
know,
I'd
be
glad
to,
you
know,
take
a
look
at
it
and
look
to
see
if
they
have
made
all
the
changes
where
they
needed
to
make
all
the
changes,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
that
makes
much
difference.
E
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
know
I
mean:
if
could
he
give
it
to
the
county
board,
and
could
we
go
a
second
time
if
there
was
a
major
problem
this
way?
If
there
is
no
problems,
he's
done,
I
mean
that's
what
I
would
try
to
do,
but
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
problem
doing
it
twice
to
the
county.
E
A
A
E
A
E
Just
went
if
he
went
if
brad
went
forward
with
the
county
and
they
look
at
it,
and
then
we
look
at
it
when
we
we
finally
get
it
on
the
16th
and
there's
no
problem
we're
all
set,
but
on
the
16th,
if
we
see
something
needs
to
change,
could
we
go
back
to
the
county
in
march
and
say:
look
we
found
this
and
we
need
to
adjust
it
or
is
it
just
a
one-shot
deal
with
the
council?
No.
A
We
can
always
go
back,
I
just
the
thing
is
it's
it's
just
I
don't
the
county.
They
their
planner
has
to
review
it
too,
and
I
just
don't
want
their.
They
only
have
one
staff
member
at
the
plant
at
the
county,
so
they
they
highly
advise
that
you
give
us
they
give
you
give
them
the
final
shot.
The
final
product.
A
A
E
A
I
can
always
supplement
it.
It's
never
been.
It's
never
been
an
issue
for
me
to
supplement
it,
but
it's
just
that
before
for
us
to
receive
a
decision
from
them,
you
want
to
have
the
decision
on
the
final
form.
B
All
right
sounds
like
we
have
a
a
plan.
Brad
you'll
share
that
once
general
co
gets
back
to
you,
you'll
share
that
with
us,
we'll
review
it
and
and
then
make
a
decision
as
to
what
we
do
next
and,
in
the
meantime,
we'll
meet
again
plan
to
meet
again
on
february
16th.