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Legislative Assembly of Alberta
10:36 Opening
29:53 Oral Question Period
01:21:34 Afternoon Session
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Lord,
the
god
of
righteousness
and
Truth
Grant
to
our
King,
to
his
government,
to
members
of
the
legislative
assembly
and
to
all
in
positions
of
responsibility
the
guidance
of
your
spirit.
May
they
never
leave
the
province
wrongly
through
love
of
power,
desire
to
please
or
unworthy
ideas,
but,
laying
aside
all
private
interest
and
Prejudice,
keep
in
mind
their
responsibility
to
seek
to
improve
the
condition
of
all.
C
E
F
You're
our
eyes
to
introduce
to
you
and
through
you
to
the
assembly
six
outstanding
members
of
the
Strathcona
professional
firefighters,
Association
I,
along
with
my
colleagues
in
all
albertans,
am
truly
grateful
for
the
dedication
and
service
of
our
First
Responders
I
want
to
thank
Elliott,
Davis,
Eric,
Lowe,
Tyler,
Brady,
Ryan,
Woodland
and
Robert
Russell
for
their
service,
and
for
all
that
they
have
taught
me
these
last
three
years,
I
invite
them
to
rise
and
receive
the
warm
welcome.
Welcome
to
December
last.
G
Well,
thank
you
Mr
Speaker.
It
is
my
honor
to
rise
and
introduce
to
you
and
through
you,
three
iaff
members
who
have
joined
us
here
today
in
the
chamber
all
the
way
from
Lethbridge
they
are
Brent
nonweiler,
Brenton,
Pine
and
Patrick
masura
I
asked
Mr
Speaker
to
honor
and
recognize
their
tremendous
contribution
to
the
City
of
Lethbridge
that
the
house
extends
to
these
dedicated
public
servants.
A
warm
welcome,
a
minister
of
Education.
H
To
introduce
to
you
and
through
you
to
all
members
of
the
assembly,
five
honorable
guests
from
Red
Deer,
firefighters,
Association,
local
1190,
we're
delighted
to
welcome
here
today:
Steven
belick,
Daniel,
henschel,
Kevin,
betsworth,
Lyle,
Wesner
and
Billy
camp
on
behalf
of
all
the
assembly.
We
want
to
thank
you
for
the
tremendous
work
you
do
and
God
bless
you
all
so
much.
I
J
K
N
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
it's
an
honor
to
introduce
to
you
and
through
and
to
all
members
of
the
assembly,
and
please
join
me
in
welcoming
members
from
the
spruce
grove,
firefighters,
local
3021,
who
have
joined
us
here
today.
Jordan
Hanratty,
Joel,
McKay,
Justin,
Yeager
and
Cole
hober
go
ahead
and
call
member
statements.
O
Mr
Speaker
International
Investment
is
essential
for
creating
good
jobs
for
albertans,
large-scale
infrastructure
projects
in
our
energy
sector
and
other
emerging
spaces,
put
people
to
work
and
allow
them
to
put
food
on
their
table,
pay
their
bills
and
put
a
little
bit
away
for
that
well-deserved.
Vacation
I
was
proud
to
serve
in
a
government
that
delivered
on
getting
our
resources
to
Tidewater,
with
the
expansion
of
the
Trans
Mountain
pipeline,
which
has
put
nearly
30
000
people
to
work
and
will
be
completed
next
year.
O
I
am
proud
to
stand
in
this
house
on
behalf
of
skilled
trades
people
every
day
and
I
was
so
proud
to
see
our
leader
commit
to
fund
fund
training
centers
should
we
form
the
next
government.
Sadly,
so
much
of
our
construction
industry
is
watching
in
horror
right
now,
as
the
premier
attempts
to
Ram
through
her
undemocratic
job-killing
sovereignty
act,
a
deeply
flawed
piece
of
legislation,
sometimes
National
Economic
challenges
require
National,
Solutions
and
I'm,
proud
to
live
in
a
country
where
provinces
and
different
levels
of
government
can
come
together
to
develop
those
Solutions.
O
There
would
be
no
Trans
Mountain
in
a
world
with
sovereignty
acts.
That's
tens
of
thousands
of
Alberta
jobs
lost,
but
it
gets
worse.
There
are
very
real
and
very
serious
concerns
about
what
this
horrible
bill
could
mean
for
federal
housing,
funding
for
large-scale
investments
in
transit
projects
and
more.
We
know
this
Premier
has
already
mused
about
pulling
out
of
the
Spring
Bank
Dam
and
abandoning
Calgary's
long-awaited
green
line
again,
more
good
paying
jobs
lost
and
those
jobs
are
needed.
O
Now
more
than
ever,
as
this
government's
economic
plan
has
been
disaster,
Alberta
has
the
second
lowest
wage
growth
in
all
of
Canada,
and
inflation
has
outpaced
wage
growth
by
four
times
my
constituents,
and
so
many
others
are
working
harder
and
harder
and
falling
farther
and
farther
behind
the
job-killing
wage
killing
sovereignty.
Act
is
the
last
thing
we
need.
We
need
more
infrastructure
projects,
we
need
more
jobs,
not
less
pull
this
legislation
now
and
let's
build
a
better
future
for
Alberta
workers.
P
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
across
Canada
we
have
a
shortage
of
children's
pain,
medication
supply
chain
issues
and
increased
demand
has
put
pressure
on
hospitals
and
Physicians
offices,
as
parents
seek
out
alternative
sources
from
their
local
pharmacy
whose
shelves
are
empty.
This
is
a
scene
playing
out
from
Victoria
to
St
John's,
and
this
is
a
major
concern
for
Alberta
parents
and
this
government,
as
the
health
and
well-being
of
our
children,
is
so
important.
Mr
Speaker
I
myself
have
heard
many
stories
from
parents
from
Calgary
Hayes
and
it's
a
growing
concern.
P
It's
something
that
must
be
dealt
with
are
635
thousand
children
need
relief
and
they
need
it
now.
That's
why
our
government
has
taken
action
to
support
families
and
ease
the
strain
on
our
health
care
System.
Just
this
morning,
the
premier
and
health
Minister
announced
that
this
Alberta
Government
has
acquired
at
minimum
of
5
million
bottles,
bottles
of
acetaminophen
ibuprofen
and
adibe
from
atabay
Pharmaceuticals.
As
soon
as
it
arrives,
it
will
be
sent
out
to
Farmers
Seas
across
Alberta.
P
I
want
to
thank
the
efforts
of
this
government,
as
well
as
the
efforts
of
Alberta
Health
Services
in
identifying
and
connecting
with
the
manufacturer
to
get
this
much
needed
medicine
so
swiftly,
with
5
million
doses.
Being
the
minimum
amount
we
are
receiving
from
the
manufacturer.
Albertans
can
be
assured
there
will
be
a
constant
Supply,
while
the
issues
facing
the
national
importation
process
are
worked
out.
As
the
middle
Health
Minister
said
earlier
this
morning.
P
As
soon
as
health
Canada
completes
the
expedited
approval
process,
the
first
10
shipments
will
be
sent
to
Alberta
once
here
it
will
be
mere
days
before
Pharmacy
shelves
will
be
stocked
with
acetaminophen
and
ibuprofen
for
Alberta's
children.
I
have
been
told
that
actions
speak
louder
than
words
well,
Mr
Speaker,
with
five
million
bottles
worth
of
action.
That
is
strong
medicine
for
Alberta.
Q
Thank
you
Mr
Speaker,
33
years
ago
on
December
6
1989
14
women
were
murdered
in
the
occult
Polytechnic
massacre
in
Montreal.
Today
we
honor
their
memory.
Today
we
remember
14
women
whose
lives
were
full
of
Hope
love
and
potential
Bergeron
Ellen
Colgan
Natalie
croteau
Barbara
Daniel
Anne-Marie
Edward
Maude
avonik
Maurice,
leganier,
Maurice,
LeClaire,
Anne-Marie,
Lemay,
Sonia,
Peltier,
Michelle,
Richard,
Annie,
Saint,
Arnold,
Ani,
Turco,
Barbara,
clothing,.
Q
Q
I
This
morning,
myself
and
my
colleagues
met
with
representatives
from
the
Alberta
firefighters
and
paramedics
Association
to
learn
about
the
issues
that
are
facing
their
members
as
part
of
the
Fall
legislature
conference.
The
affpa
are
Fierce
advocates
for
issue
for
issues
facing
firefighters
and
paramedics
across
the
province,
and
opposition
Cox
has
actively
met
with
them
over
the
30th
legislature
to
listen
support
and
bring
their
issues
to
this
assembly.
I
Unfortunately,
when
asked
if
the
UCP
minister
of
jobs
would
support
this,
his
reply
was
that
government
had
already
done
this,
what
a
slap
in
the
face
to
the
firefighters
who've
gathered
from
across
the
province,
who
are
with
us
today
in
the
gallery
and
have
reached
out
to
members
of
all
parties
to
highlight
their
issues.
Members,
like
the
Saint
Albert
firefighters,
who
are
deeply
concerned
about
a
number
of
issues
facing
integrated
services
like
Saint
Albert
that
have
been
made
so
much
worse
by
decisions
that
are
negatively
impacting
their
ability
to
serve
the
city.
I
Alberta's,
professional
firefighters
and
paramedics
have
many
issues
that
they
need
us
to
know
about,
and
act
on,
issues
related
to
system
Improvement
that
will
lessen
their
difficulty,
recruiting
issues
about
safe
Staffing
levels,
more
Regional
autonomy
and
so
much
more.
What
I've
learned
from
the
extraordinary
St,
Albert,
firefighters,
all
126
of
them,
is
that
governments
will
continue
to
get
it
wrong
until
they
directly
consult
with
them.
Mr
Speaker,
the
AFF
PA,
has
already
lost
members
who
fought
in
the
Fort
McMurray
fire.
I
E
Speaker
I
stand
before
you
in
the
assembly
today
with
a
heavy
heart
at
any
given
time.
A
paramedic
working
in
their
Community
can
be
faced
with
a
situation
that
many
of
us
cannot
ever
imagine
on.
November
15th
Jamie
Erickson
arrived
at
the
scene
of
a
crash
on
an
icy
stretch
of
Alberta
Highway.
She
didn't
know
it
at
the
time,
but
she
was
responding
to
an
accident
involving
her
own
15
year
old
daughter.
E
It
is
every
parent's
worst
nightmare
to
lose
their
child,
but
it
can't
comprehend
comprehend
the
intense
trauma
of
attending
to
one's
own
child
to
honor
and
memorialize
the
Beautiful
Life
of
Montana
Ericsson.
It's
important
to
celebrate
the
important
amazing
person
that
she
was
I
want
the
assembly
to
know
how
much
she
meant
to
her
family
and
how
much
she
meant
to
so
many
countless
others.
Montana
had
a
kind
and
graceful
spirit
that
left
a
lasting
impression
on
everyone
who
had
the
privilege
of
knowing
her.
E
She
was
a
firecracker,
a
dedicated
friend
who
would
always
stand
up
for
the
right
thing.
Montana
was
an
athlete
that
finished
fifth
at
the
Canadian
national
swimming
junior
Championship.
She
was
dedicated
to
helping
people,
which
is
why,
in
her
final
hours,
she
donated
her
organs,
saving
the
lives
of
so
many
others,
Montana.
E
Is
a
hero
she
meant
so
much
to
so.
Many
in
her
presence
will
have
a
lasting
impression
on
our
communities
and
in
Alberta
made
Jamie
her
husband,
Sean,
their
friends,
families
and
members
of
the
EMS
Community
find
peace
through
this
tough
time
in
honor
of
Montana
and
the
daily
sacrifice
of
our
Medics.
Let
this
serve
as
a
reminder
of
the
support
and
healing
needed
for
her
Medics
across
this
province.
I
promise
to
hold
that
dear
to
my
heart
and
start
that
healing
our
thoughts
and
prayers
are
with
you.
C
K
Today,
December
6th
is
the
national
day
of
remembrance
and
action
on
violence
against
women.
I
asked
this
assembly
to
take
a
moment
with
me
and
remember:
the
lives
of
14,
brilliant
young
women
who,
in
1989,
were
killed
at
an
attack
at
a
club
Polytechnic
in
Montreal,
an
attack
fueled
by
anti-feminist
violence
and
misogyny.
K
These
women
were
killed
because
they
were
women
and
in
the
years
since
we
last
marked
this
day,
roughly
170
women
and
two
US
lgbtq
plus
people
have
died
in
Canada
due
to
gender-based
violence,
a
number
that
has
risen
in
the
past
three
years.
We
know
that
indigenous
women,
girls
and
two
spirit
people
are
12
times
more
likely
to
face
gender-based
violence
than
non-indigenous
people.
Gender-Based
violence
must
stop
women.
Girls,
two-spirit,
non-binary
and
transgender
people
should
be
safe
in
all
aspects
of
their
lives.
K
They
should
be
safe
in
their
homes,
in
their
workplaces,
in
their
communities,
on
their
walks
and
in
their
schools.
They
have
every
right
to
be
safe
here
and
yet
we
cannot
stand
in
this
house
and
say
that
they
are
when
Alberta
has
the
second
highest
number
of
missing
and
murdered
indigenous
women,
girls
and
two-spirit
people
in
the
country,
and
that
one
in
three
women
in
Canada
will
face
gender-based
violence
in
their
lifetime.
This
government
cannot
continue
to
Mark
the
anniversary
polytechnique
by
saying
never
again
without
action.
Words
are
simply
not
enough.
R
Mr
Speaker,
not
every
albertan,
interacts
with
the
health
care
system.
In
the
same
way,
many
albertans
seek
different
kinds
of
care
outside
of
the
traditional
doctor's
office.
Currently,
albertans
are
paying
out
of
pocket
for
services
not
covered
by
Alberta
Health
Insurance
things
like
the
dentist,
the
chiropractor,
counselors
and
other
needed
health
professionals.
R
Email
Burton's,
desperately
needing
these
services
to
deal
with
chronic
pain,
additional
medications,
mental
health
and
other
treatments,
and
our
government
has
a
solution.
Imagine
for
a
moment
a
family
of
four,
with
an
extra
twelve
hundred
dollars
to
spend
on
these
alternative.
Services
Little
Johnny
needs
braces.
The
family
is
able
to
use
this
extra
twelve
hundred
dollars
to
offset
the
costs.
Imagine
Johnny
doesn't
need
the
braces,
but
his
little
sister
Sally
requires
orthotics.
In
any
circumstance,
the
family
is
able
to
pay
for
things
that
they
need
to
make
life
more
comfortable.
R
Recently,
our
Premier
has
proposed
putting
a
house
spending
account
into
action
for
all
albertans
to
use
to
pay
for
health
expenses
that
are
not
covered
by
Alberta
Health
insurance.
We
will
invest
300
a
year
into
these
accounts
and
we
will
also
incentivize
and
encourage
employers
to
contribute
to
these
accounts
as
well.
Mr
maziker
this
money
would
be
beneficial
for
all
albertans.
Anyone
with
compassion
for
those
who
are
struggling
financially
in
this
province
can
see
how
important
this
extra
money
will
be,
and
yet
the
leader
of
the
NDP
continues
to
call
this
idea.
R
Incredibly
radical
and
extremely
damaging
this
Mr
Speaker
I,
don't
know
about
you,
but
those
are
not
the
terms
that
I
would
use
to
describe
this
health
spending
account
that
falls
in
line
with
the
Canada
Health
act.
This
spending
account
will
enhance
our
health
care
System
rather
than
damage
it
like
the
NDP
have
told
albertans
at
will.
Our
government
is
here
to
stand
up
for
albertans
and
we
will
continue
to
be
creative
in
solutions
for
all
albertans.
S
Mr
Speaker,
it
is
important
for
all
of
us,
as
elected
officials,
to
stand
up
for
Alberta.
The
difference
is
my
party
knows
we
can
do
that
without
upending.
The
Constitution,
eroding
democracy
and
hurting
investor
certainty
and
albertans
agree.
Mr
Speaker,
according
to
a
recent
poll
by
leje,
more
than
two-thirds
of
albertans
disagree
with
the
act,
and
that
was
before
this
Premier
made
such
a
mess
of
it.
No
amendments
can
save
this
bill,
so
why
doesn't
the
premier
admit
her
bill
doesn't
need
clarification.
What
it
needs
is
to
just
be
quashed
the.
T
Honorable,
the
premier,
thank
you,
Mr
Speaker.
Yesterday,
the
leader
of
the
official
opposition
quoted
Dawn,
braid.
Well,
I,
see
your
Dawn
braid
and
I.
Raise
you
a
Rex,
Murphy
Rex
Murphy.
He
disagreed
with
the
sovereignty
act
in
my
characterization
of
it
yesterday
as
well,
and
you
know
why
he
disagreed
with
the
sovereignty
act
in
my
characterization
of
it
because
he
said
Alberta
has
not
been
ignored.
He
said,
I
must
go
all
caps,
an
exclamation
mark.
You
could
only
wish
in
your
sweetest
dreams.
Alberta
was
ignored
in
your
deepest
prayers.
T
S
Well,
Mr
spurkey
Mr
Speaker
Murphy
is
gonna
Murphy,
but
meanwhile
others
actually
agree
with
us
columnist.
Robin
urbach
wrote
that
it
seems
like
this
legislation
was
written
in
crayon,
Rob
Breckenridge
said
the
confusions
and
reversals
are
hurting
public
confidence
long
time,
Harper,
strategist,
Corey
taniki
said
this
will
quote:
go
down
as
one
of
the
most
ill-conceived
pieces
of
legislation
ever
written
end
quote.
He
then
went
on
to
call
it
unconservative
Mr
Speaker
to
the
premier.
Is
she
really
saying
she's
the
only
one
that's
right
and
everyone
else
is
wrong.
T
Major
who's,
a
former
Canadian
Supreme,
Court,
Justice
I,
think
he
knows
a
thing
or
two
about
the
Constitution.
What's
so
terrible
about
the
province
saying
if
you
want
to
impose
on
us,
you
better
make
sure
you're
doing
it
constitutionally.
But
let
me
just
continue
with
what
Rex
Murphy
have
to
say.
He
said
Madam
Premier.
You
could
only
hope
that
Alberta
was
ignored.
The
truth
is
it
had
the
mean
attention
and
been
the
unrelenting
object
of
every
global
warming
obsessive
in
the
entire
world
and
during
the
last
seven
years
of
which
the
leader
opposite
was
Premier.
S
Well,
Mr
Speaker
today's
Calgary
system
or
Calgary
city
solicitor
said
the
best
case
scenario
is
that
the
bill
be
withdrawn,
and
this
morning
two
Alberta
constitutional
experts,
people
that
are
still
writing
about
constitutional
law.
Martin
olzinski
and
Nigel
Banks
wrote
that
separate,
and
apart
from
the
premier's
undemocratic
power
grab,
there
are
still
other
sections
that
render
the
bill
unconstitutional
quote.
Amendments
will
do
nothing
to
address
our
most
significant
concerns.
Why
won't
the
premier
admit
that
her
Flagship
bill
is
sinking
and
withdraw
it
today.
T
Go
to
Jack
major
former
Canadian
Supreme
Court
Justice
I've
quoted
Jeffrey
sigalette
University
of
BC
Center
for
constitutional
law,
Jesse
hartney
constitutional
lawyer.
The
federal
government
has
its
own
executive
branch
to
implement
and
enforce
the
laws.
The
provinces
are
free
to
assist
in
that
implementation
if
they
wish,
but
if
they
have
different
enforcement
priorities,
they
have
they
listen
to
this
word.
They
have
the
Sovereign
right
to
decline
enforcement
of
federal
laws
and
require
the
federal
government
to
do
it
itself
with
its
own
funds.
S
Mr
Speaker,
a
few
weeks
ago,
our
party
asked
the
premier
to
address
the
shortage
of
over-the-counter
children's
medication
and
we
are
very
pleased
to
see
progress
announced
today.
However,
this
does
not
address
the
recent
surge
in
pediatric
respiratory
illnesses
in
our
ERS
in
other
provinces,
the
chief
medical
officers
of
Health
are
educating
the
public
about
what
they
can
do
to
protect
their
children
and
stop
the
spread.
Yet
here,
crickets
Mr
Speaker
to
the
premier,
is
this
total
absence
of
Public
Health
leadership
happening
at
her
Direction
and
if
so,
why.
T
Mr
Speaker,
the
chief
medical
officer
of
Health,
routinely
issues
press
releases
and
it
routinely
gives
direction
to
those
who
seek
his
advice.
That's
the
role
of
the
chief
medical
officer
of
health
is
the
role
of
our
health
Minister
and
the
role
of
Alberta
Health
Services
to
make
sure
that
if
children
get
sick,
that
they
have
not
only
the
medication
that
the
parents
need
to
be
able
to
treat
them
and-
and
that
was
what
the
Children's
Tylenol
the
children's
acetaminophen
announcement
was
about.
T
S
Mr
Speaker
right
now,
Alberta
children
are
being
hit
with
the
public
health
triple
whammy
of
covet
influenza
and
RSV.
Recent
support
a
report
show
Alberta,
has
the
highest
rate
of
influenza
in
Canada
and
one
of
the
lowest
rates
of
immunization
amongst
children.
Now
the
premier
fired
the
former
cmoh,
and
now
we
have
a
volunteer
in
charge
of
public
health
and
to
make
matters
worse,
though,
will
the
premier
confirm
today
that
both
Deputy
cmohs
have
now
resigned
as
well
under
her
leadership.
T
T
And
he
is
giving
advice
to
those
who
are
seeking
it.
The
most
important
thing
we
can
do
right
now
is
make
sure
that
when
a
child
gets
sick,
they
have
the
medication
that
they
need,
and
that
was
the
reason
why
we
put
all
of
our
effort
into
securing
a
supply
of
5
million
bottles
of
of
acetaminophen
and
ibuprofen,
and
it's
going
to
make
sure
that
families
are
protected.
S
Well,
Mr
Speaker.
What
I
asked
the
premier
was
whether
or
not
our
volunteer
cmoh
is
getting
the
support
of
the
two
deputy
chief
medical
officers
of
Health
that
we
understand
have
resigned.
She
hasn't
given
us
an
answer.
Meanwhile,
nobody
is
speaking
up
to
give
appropriate
information
to
our
families.
Will
the
premier
as
a
result
stand
and
encourage
not
mandate
but
encourage
vaccines
as
an
important
tool
in
preventing
the
Public
Health
crisis,
currently
overtaking
our
ERS
and
threatening
the
safety
of
children?
And
if
not,
why
not?.
T
The
leader
of
the
opposition
knows
that
RSV
is
the
most
common
childhood
illness
and
there
is
no
vaccine
for
it.
I
think
we
all
wish
that
there
was
a
silver
bullet
and
that
the
what
we
actually
need
to
have
is
to
ensure
that
people
have
the
medication
they
need.
I
spoke
with
the
pharmacist
today
and
the
number
one
most
important
thing
when
somebody
gets
ill
is
that
if
they
have
a
high
fever,
they
need
that
fever
to
break
if
they
don't
have
the
fever.
Okay,.
C
U
For
days
now,
the
premier
and
the
Minister
of
Justice
have
tried
to
convince
albertan
that
bill.
One
was
not
the
undemocratic
power
grab
that
constitutional
experts
lawyer
journalists,
Business,
Leaders
and
Alberta
knew
that
it
was.
Let's
acknowledge
the
fact.
The
sovereignty
act
will
give
this
cabinet
the
power
to
unilaterally
modify,
suspend
and
rewrite
loss.
That
was
the
power
the
premier
Injustice
Minister
wanted.
Can
the
premier
explain
why
she
wanted
these
almost
dictatorial
powers
and
who
advised
her
that
this
was
the
way
to
go?
The.
T
Smurfia
understands
it,
he
says
this.
Your
sovereignty,
Act
is
a
good
thing
and
why
would
I
say
so?
It's
very
simple,
though,
perhaps
not
obvious
to
everyone.
The
ACT
is
not
a
constitutional
challenge.
It
is
not
a
matter
of
jurisdictional
measures.
Those
are
surface
points.
What
it
really
carries
is
a
demand
for
respect
and
fairness,
albertans
have
been
disrespected
and
they
feel
it
on
a
personal
level.
The
impulse
behind
the
ACT
is
an
overdue
call.
That
Alberta
received
the
respect.
U
The
Justice
Minister
told
the
media
yesterday
that
he
provide
legal
opinion
to
the
cabinet
and
described
his
role
as
being
counseled
to
the
executive
Council.
This
bill
was
poorly
drafted,
attempt
at
giving
extreme
power
to
the
cabinet
at
the
expense
of
democratic
rights
of
albertans
and
albertan
deserved
to
know
how
such
a
disaster
was
created.
Will
the
premier
today
authorize
the
Justice
minister
to
speak
to
public
about
the
legal
opinion
he
provided
about
this
disastrous
and
Democratic
piece
of
legislation?
She
tried
to
force
on
to
Albert.
T
The
Honorable,
the
premiere
Mr
Speaker
I've,
been
very
open
about
the
legal
advice
that
we
have
received.
All
the
legal
advice
that
we
have
received
has
been
how
we
craft
this
legislation
so
that
it
respects
the
rights
of
our
Aboriginal
citizens
so
that
it
respects
the
charter
and
so
that
it
enforces
the
fact
that
we
are
going
to
defend
our
constitutional
rights
under
sections
92
through
95
of
the
every
all
of
our
legal
advice
has
been
crafted
in
order
to
make
sure
it
falls
within
those
parameters.
U
This
minister,
in
the
premiere
spent
their
days
following
the
tabling
of
this
act,
insulting
Business
Leaders
in
albertans,
who
warned
about
the
consequences
it
would
have
on
our
economy
and
democracy.
We
deserve
to
hear
from
the
legal
advice
provided
tooth
cabinet
and
know
why
the
minister
signed
off
on
this
terrible
piece
of
legislation.
Will
the
premier
sanction
the
release
of
the
legal
opinion
the
Justice
Minister
provided
to
Cabinet
on
Belmont?
If
you
want,
can
she
explain
how
she
expects
anyone
to
trust
her
or
her
government
on
pretty
much
anything
yeah.
T
Honorable
Premiere
yeah,
there's
everything's
on
the
table.
The
reason
why
we're
putting
this
legislation
forward
is
to
make
sure
that
we
are
enforcing
our
rights
under
the
Constitution,
that
is
the
beginning
and
the
end
of
it.
You
look
at
Saskatchewan
and
the
Saskatchewan
First
Act.
The
only
difference
that
we
did
in
this
province
is
that,
rather
than
have
an
independent
appointed
tribunal
as
the
starting
point
for
any
motion
that
we
would
put
forward,
we
made
sure
that
it
was
disassembly
anytime.
We
take
a
motion
under
the
sovereignty
act.
T
G
Mr
Speaker
I'm
hearing
directly
from
healthcare
workers
and
patients
in
Lethbridge
at
the
Chinook
Regional
Hospital.
It
could
be
on
the
cusp
of
capacity
issues
due
to
Staffing
shortages.
This
is
the
predictable
outcome
of
three
years
of
UCP
war
on
Frontline
healthcare
workers
in
a
refusal
of
the
UCP
government
to
take
responsibility
and
show
leadership
on
our
City's
most
important
issue.
People
in
Lethbridge
do
not
want
to
hear
excuses
for
our
multiple
and
overlapping
Health
Care
crises.
G
C
M
You
Mr
Speaker
and
thank
you
to
The
Honorable
member
for
the
question.
Mr
Speaker.
We
are
seeing
a
high
volume
of
patients
at
the
snook
Regional
Hospital,
both
in
the
ICU
and
the
emergency
department.
Now
as
of
right
now,
just
to
be
clear,
Mr
Speaker,
no
in-house
patients
have
been
transferred
due
to
capacity
and
no
incoming
patients
have
been
diverted
that
has
not
happened.
Hospitals
across
the
globe
are
dealing
with
with
challenges.
C
G
Well,
Mr
Speaker,
with
volume
might
be
high
in
The
Yards,
because
40
000
people
don't
have
a
family
doctor.
Now,
a
few
weeks
ago,
I
raised
the
alarm
at
last
Bridge
only
having
one
full-time,
obstetrician
and
gynecologist
to
support
pregnant
women.
Month
after
month,
it
has
been
the
NDP
opposition
raising
the
alarm
about
the
challenges
to
health
care
in
Southern
Alberta,
not
a
word
for
many
UCP
MLA
I.
Guess
the
deputy
Premier
can't
be
bothered
to
read
about
that
either.
So
on
the
OB
GYN
crisis,
why
is
the
minister?
G
M
The
minister
of
Health
thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
Mr
Speaker.
We
are
working
very
hard
on
recruiting
Physicians
across
the
entire
Province,
including
in
Lethbridge
Mr
Speaker
I'm
plea,
I'm,
pleased
to
say
that
17
Family
Medicine
Physicians
have
committed
to
the
community
of
lethridge
and
13
of
which
are
awaiting
their
cpsa
practice.
Readiness.
We
already
have
a
number
started:
we're
looking
forward
to
have
the
remainder
start
over
the
next
number
of
months,
Mr
Speaker.
G
Mr
Speaker,
the
UCP,
are
far
more
concerned
about
the
job-killing
sovereignty
act
and
fixing
Health
Care
in
last
bridge.
But
let's
see
if
we
can
get
a
local
perspective
here,
will
the
deputy
Premier
from
left
Bridges?
Please
explain
about
his
priorities
and
what
is
his
plan
for
and
he
can
take
his
pick
of
any
of
the
multiple
overlapping
crises
that
he
has
governed
is
authored,
whether
it's
capacity,
staffing
issues,
family
doctors,
EMS,
OB,
GYN
shortage?
What's
the
plan
on
any
of
these
crises
that
the
UCP
have
authored,
The.
M
We're
very
pleased
about
the
plan
that
we're
putting
forward
to
address
the
challenges
that
Healthcare
is
facing
here
in
our
Province
and,
quite
frankly,
that
provinces
across
the
country
are
facing
at
the
same
time,
Mr
Speaker.
We
are
investing
more
money
than
we
ever
had
before.
22
billion
dollars
this
year,
an
additional
600
million
next
year,
600
million
the
year
after
that
Mr
Speaker.
R
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker
I've,
been
speaking
with
many
of
my
constituents,
and
the
recent
wave
of
the
flu
and
other
respiratory
illnesses
has
been
a
Hot
Topic,
especially
access
to
Children's,
cold
medication
like
Tylenol
and
Advil
across
the
country.
Pharmacy
shelves
are
empty
and
parents
don't
have
over-the-counter
meds,
they
need
for
their
sick.
Kids.
M
You
Mr
Speaker
and
thank
you
to
The
Honorable
member
for
the
question.
Today.
There
is
great
news
for
parents
throughout
Alberta.
The
premier
and
I
were
able
to
make
an
announcement
that,
in
order
to
combat
the
shortage
of
children's
pain
medication,
we
announced
that
the
government
is
working
to
acquire
5
million
retail
units
of
acetaminophen
and
ibuprofen.
M
We've
been
working
with
AHS
to
find
a
manufacturer
who
can
provide
the
medication
and
I'm
pleased
to
say
that
adipay
Pharmaceuticals
will
be
able
to
provide
a
study,
Supply
AI
for
our
Province
once
Health
Canada
gives
their
final
approvals.
Mr
Speaker
Alberta's
parents
will
once
again
have
access
to
the
much
needed
pain
medications
they
need
for
their
children.
The.
C
R
The
minister,
that's
fantastic
news
for
Alberta
parents,
given
that
these
parents
need
these
medications
as
soon
as
possible,
so
that
they
can
alleviate
the
fevers
and
teething
pain
affected
by
thousands
of
albertan
kids,
and
given
that
this
is
a
prophet's
white
issue
and
parents
in
Rural
and
remote
areas
of
Alberta
need
these
medications
too.
Can
the
minister
tell
us
what
the
plan
is
to
ensure
that
units
of
Children's,
Tylenol
and
Advil
are
distributed
to
pharmacies
all
across
the
province?
The.
M
You
Mr
Speaker,
and
thanks
again
to
the
member
for
the
for
the
question
Mr
Speaker.
We
know
that
Province
parents
across
our
entire
Province
need
access
to
these
essential
pain
medications
and
they
need
it
quickly.
That's
why
AHS
will
be
using
the
pharmaceutical
distributor
McKesson
to
ensure
every
Pharmacy
in
Alberta
gets
prompt
and
efficient
shipment
as
needed.
R
The
Honorable
member.
Thank
you.
Mr
Speaker,
thanks
Minister,
given
that
albertans
are
concerned
about
the
rising
costs
and
the
current
inflation
crisis,
and
given
that
many
of
my
constituents
are
seeing
Rising
costs
from
all
on
all
essentials,
from
everything
from
ground
beef
to
lettuce
and
given
that
families
are
having
to
make
difficult
choices
on
how
they
spend
their
hard-earned
money,
can
the
minister
tell
albertans
what
steps
are
being
taken
to
ensure
that
prices
for
these
medications
remain
affordable
for
Alberta
families?
The
minister
of
Health.
M
Thanks
again
for
the
question:
Mr
Speaker,
we
know
that
many
albertans
are
under
Financial
strain
because
of
the
rising
cost
of
Essentials
like
medication
and
groceries
due
to
inflation.
That's
why
we
will
ensure
that
parents
will
be
able
to
pay
approximately
the
same
retail
prices
as
listed
now,
which
is
about
12
dollars
per
bottle.
On
average,
many
albertans
are
facing
significant
strain
on
their
finances,
especially
families
with
children.
So
I'm
pleased
that
we
can
take
steps
to
ensure
that
everyone
can
afford
to
buy
the
pain
medication
that
their
children
need.
The.
V
Thank
you,
Mr
speaker
now,
there's
an
EMS
crisis
in
Alberta
in
Ponoka.
The
mayor
called
on
this
government
to
step
up
and
do
more
following
a
number
of
recent
incidents,
including
one
where
volunteer
firefighters
were
forced
to
take
a
pedestrian
hit
by
a
car
to
hospital
in
the
back
of
a
pickup,
because
it
could
wait
no
longer
for
an
ambulance.
Albertans
deserve
to
know
that
an
ambulance
is
coming
when
they
call,
but
for
far
too
many
since
the
UCP
foreign
government.
It's
simply
not
the
case.
M
Take
this
opportunity
first
off
to
thank
all
of
our
paramedics
and
our
First
Responders
to
providing
service
to
albertans
much
needed
Services
during
these
talented,
challenging
times,
Mr
Speaker.
As
you
know,
the
call
volumes
of
up
30
since
last
summer,
and
we
have
made
significant
Investments
to
be
able
to
address
the
challenges
as
part
of
budget
2022.
We
invested
64
million
dollars,
that's
putting
ambulances
more
ambulances
on
the
streets,
Calgary
and
Edmonton,
as
well
as
putting
ambulances
in
rural
areas.
Mr
Speaker.
V
Given
that
there's
another
crisis
Minister
yesterday,
this
Minister
tabled
Bill
Ford
claimed
it
would
quote,
ensure
stable
funding
for
Alberta's
doctors.
End
quote,
given
that
what
it
actually
does
is
undo
the
catastrophic
decision
made
by
the
Justice
Minister
when
he
was
in
health
to
let
this
government
unilaterally
tear
up
their
agreement.
Doctors,
something
supported
by
every
member
of
this
government
now,
given
that
decision
launched
their
war
on
doctors
in
the
midst
of
a
pandemic,
devastated,
Primary
Care
made
it
impossible
for
many
to
see
a
family
doctors
and
so
much
more,
rather
than
Pat
himself.
V
M
Health
Mr
Speaker-
that
is
simply
not
the
case.
Mr
Speaker
we
we
are,
we
are
seeing
challenges
in
Alberta
like
in
regards
to
Family
Physicians,
like
challenges
are
being
seen
across
the
entire
country.
Mr
Speaker
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
policy.
It
has
everything
to
do
with
the
challenges
of
the
pandemic,
but
that
said,
Mr
Speaker
I
am
very
pleased
and
proud
of
the
work
that
our
government
has
done
and
working
with
the
AMA
to
reach
this
tremendous
agreement
that
was
supported
by
more
than
70
percent
of
doctors.
This
agreement
is
focused
on
partnership.
M
V
M
Putting
money
where
our
models
are
Mr
Speaker,
it's
project,
budget
2022.
We
are
spending
22
billion
dollars
the
most
ever
and
on
top
of
that,
to
be
able
to
address
challenges
with
covet
and
get
caught
up
in
surgeries.
There's
more
money
allocated
this
year,
Mr
Speaker.
We
are
putting
another
1.2
billion
dollars
into
the
system
and
we
know
we
need
to
transform
the
system
Mr
Speaker.
W
Mr
Speaker
words
matter,
and
this
Paul,
the
premier
said
inaccurate
ones
that
unvaccinated
people
quote.
I
have
been
the
most
discriminated
against
group
that
I've
ever
witnessed
in
my
lifetime
end
code.
The
premier
has
jet
to
apologies
for
what
she
said.
Hate
crimes
are
on
the
rise
and
her
comments
negate
the
experience
of
racialized
and
marginalized
albertans,
but
all
the
premier
said
stand
up
and
offer
formal
apology
for
harmful
words.
Well,
she
acknowledge
the
very
real
racism,
discrimination
and
violence
the
people
face
in
this
province.
X
Mr
Speaker:
this
government
stands
strongly
supporting
all
efforts
against
any
sort
of
racism
and,
and
we
support
every
work
from
the
community
stakeholders
for
actions
taken
against
any
sort
of
anti-racism
work.
Mr
Speaker
myself
stood
on
the
steps,
who
is
the
community
leaders,
fight
for
anti-racist
remarks
and
actions
in
this
province?
Mr
Speaker,
we
are
committed,
continue
without
work,
I'm
pleased
to
work
with
others
who
are
sharing
our
passion
on
this
part.
The.
W
W
700
rise
in
some
areas
and
given
half
of
Chinese
Canadian
experience,
some
form
of
hate
in
relation
to
covert
19.,
and
given
that
anti-muslim
hate
crimes
have
skyrocketed
in
Muslim,
hijabi
means
being
the
primary
targets.
10Th
premier
explain
why
she
said
the
unvaccinated
are
the
most
discriminated
against
because
they
couldn't
go
to
a
restaurant.
When
many
racialized
albertans
have
been
subjected
to
real
violence
during
the
pandemic,.
X
Mr
Speaker
our
government
took
actions
and
we
created
a
first
of
its
kind
action
plan
that
shows
that
this
government
is
committed
to
working
with
marginalized
communities
to
address
races
in
Alberta.
This
anti-racin
action
plan
will
help
combat
racism
and
ensure
marginalize
our
burdens,
have
equal
access
to
information,
resources,
services
and
opportunities.
Mr
Speaker
myself
come
from
a
asthma
culture.
Minority
I
can
tell
you
that
it
hasn't
lost
that
we
need
to
have
the
voices
of
all
the
marginal
communities
to
be
fair
and
to.
W
And
marginalizing
of
items
have
spoken
out
against
the
premier's
harmful
comments
expressing
that
they
are
upset
over
the
whirlpool
neglect
of
their
lived
experience
of
discrimination,
and
given
that
the
premier
or
any
of
our
cabinet
ministers
seem
unable
to
offer
a
sincere
apology
for
the
harm
she
has
caused.
Can
the
premier
explain
what
her
government's
plan
to
do
to
protect
racialized
and
marginalized
albertans
from
the
very
real
and
oftentimes
violent
discriminations
they
face
in
this
province?.
X
Thank
you,
Mississippi.
Our
government
committed
to
work
with
all
that
share
this
Vision
here,
I
invite
the
opposition
to
join
us
to
fight
for
anti-races.
Myself
has
grown
from
a
community
that
experienced
that
Mr
Speaker.
This
issue
is
across
all
political
Stripes
here
and
we're
committed
to
taking
action.
There
I
invite
the
opposition
to
join
us
to
do
more
work
in
this
area.
The.
B
My
writing
of
spruce,
grow
and
Stony.
Plain
is
full
of
young
families
and
students
who
are
eager
to
make
this
school
year
a
great
one,
one
that
offers
educational
choices,
learning
opportunities
and
unique
experiences
in
top
tier
facilities.
To
achieve
these
goals
for
students,
our
teachers
and
Frontline
staff
must
be
supported
in
order
to
give
our
students
the
education
and
school
year
they
deserve
to
the
minister
of
Education.
H
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
and
thank
you
for
the
question
we
are
committed
to
supporting
our
teachers
and
Frontline
workers
in
the
best
manner
possible.
Mr
Speaker
budget
2022
provides
an
education
funding
increase
of
more
than
700
million
dollars
over
the
next
three
years,
including
142
million
for
the
2223
fiscal
year
to
support
and
hire
teachers.
Mr
Speaker
800,
more
teachers
and
principals
have
been
hired
this
school
year
as
well
as
an
additional
800
educational
assistant,
Mr
Speaker
we're
continuing
to
support
our
schools
and
making
sure
they
have
what
they
need.
The.
B
Honorable
member
for
Spruce,
Grove,
Stony
Plain,
thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
and
to
the
minister
for
answer,
given
that
our
public
schools
are
currently
facing
challenges
related
to
this
year's
flu
season
and
the
cyclical
wave
of
respiratory
viruses,
and
given
that
many
students
have
had
to
miss
classes
as
a
result
of
these
seasonal
illnesses
to
the
same
Minister.
What
are
you
doing
in
terms
of
supporting
school
boards
as
they
tackle
this
year's
wave
of
virus
sources?.
C
H
Minister
of
Education,
thank
you
Mr
Speaker.
Our
government
is
committed
to
supporting
school
board's
parents,
teachers
and
staff
members
by
being
responsive
and
providing
Clarity
and
Leadership
School
boards
wanted
Clarity,
and
we
provided
much
needed
Clarity
last
week
with
new
regulatory
changes
and
as
the
minister
of
Health
shared
yesterday
in
the
house,
the
spike
that
we
saw
is
going
down.
We
will
continue
to
work
with
health
and
school
boards
to
ensure
that
the
kids
can
learn
safely
in
our
schools
and
in
our
classrooms.
Here,
The.
B
Honorable
member,
thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
and
to
the
minister,
given
that
countless
schools
in
Alberta
are
in
desperate
need
of
Capital
Improvements
such
as
the
spruce
grove,
Composite,
High,
School,
and,
given
that
this
school
is
bursting
at
the
seams
with
more
students
on
the
way
and
given
that
renewing
schools
such
as
this
one
creates
vibrant
communities
and
a
fantastic
place
for
our
children
to
learn
to
the
minister
of
Education.
What
are
you
doing
to
follow
through
on
the
commitment
of
building
and
renewing
our
school
infrastructure?
Minister.
H
Speaker,
our
government
is
committed
to
building
and
renewing
infrastructure
and
revitalizing
communities.
That's
why
we've
committed
to
building
66
66
school
projects,
since
we
got
elected
at
a
cost
of
over
two
billion
dollars,
I
have
to
add
that's
more
than
the
members
opposite
did
Mr
Speaker.
Although
I
cannot
comment
on
capital
projects
that
may
be
considered
for
Budget
2023,
we
are
committed
to
continuing
to
build
more
schools
in
communities
that
need
them
the
most.
As
is
evident
by
my
mandate
letter.
H
Y
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker
children
in
Alberta
are
in
crisis.
Parents
in
Edmonton
South
are
losing
sleep
after
finding
nothing
but
empty
shelves
when
they
go
looking
for
medication,
family
doctors
are
moving
away
from
Alberta
and
any
who
are
left
aren't
accepting
new
patients.
Your
wait
times
are
stretching
longer
than
a
business
day.
This
government's
response
has
been
unjust
and
hurts
our
communities.
My
question
for
the
minister
of
health
is
simple:
will
he
stand
up
today
and
commit
to
prioritizing
our
British
children
and
invest
public
dollars
in
reducing
wait
times
and
sourcing
supplies
for
Pediatric
Care.
M
You
Mr
Speaker
and
thank
you
to
The
Honorable
member
for
the
question.
Mr
Speaker
I
was
very
pleased
today
to
announce
with
the
premier
to
address
one
of
the
issues
raised
by
The
Honorable
member,
and
that
is
the
purchase
of
5
million
bottles
of
of
ibuprofen
and
acetaminophen,
because
their
shelves
are
empty,
Mr
Speaker
and
we
know
that
that's
a
hardship
not
only
on
Alberta
parents,
but
it's
also
a
hardship
on
our
children's
hospitals,
because
parents
can't
treat
their
children
at
home.
M
Y
South,
thank
you
Mr
Speaker,
given
that
that's
not
enough,
because
the
current
state
of
our
system
is
so
bad
that
hospitals
have
been
forced
to
pause
for
spite
services
and
given
that
this
crisis
was
preventable
from
the
very
beginning,
children
are
getting
sick
from
preventable
illnesses
and
we
know
the
solutions
that
are
needed
to
keep
them
healthy
and
well.
Will
the
minister
take
the
responsibility
and
apologize
to
this
house
and
all
albertans
for
failing
our
children
and
neglecting
their
needs
in
favor
of
his
political
games?.
M
Mr
Speaker
I
was
very
pleased
to
appoint
Dr
Jaffe,
as
the
chief
medical
officer
of
health
and
I
was
very
pleased
when
he
put
out
guidance
to
Alberta
parents,
because
we
are
in
flu
season.
Their
respiratory
viruses
that
are
circulating,
so
Dr
joffe,
put
out
guidance
to
parents
and,
first
and
foremost,
and
that
was
go.
Get
your
flu
shot
I'm
very
pleased
that
we
are
actually
running
a
flu
campaign.
Perhaps
The
Honorable
members
of
South
Avenue
got
the
text
that
I
know
I
thought
I
got
on
my
phone
to
to
go.
M
Y
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
given
that
at
least
one
minister
is
willing
to
teleport
to
get
their
flu
shot
and
given
that
he
wants
to
Alberta's
Pediatric
Care
is
under
strained
and
here's
a
meta,
Band-Aid
Solutions
are
simply
not
enough.
Will
the
minister
commit
to
funding
an
expedite
completion
of
the
Eminence
Health
hospital
so
that
my
constituents
can
finally
see
some
permanent
measures
to
assist
in
health
care,
The.
Z
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker.
The
recent
ATA
pulse
survey
shows
the
devastating
impact
of
the
current
UCP
government
on
students,
staff
and
families
in
Alberta,
schools,
challenging
class
sizes,
growing
complexity
of
students
and
a
lack
of
resources
are
just
some
of
the
issues
that
have
resulted
in
unacceptable
levels
of
stress.
More
than
90
percent
of
teachers
have
said
that
they're
exhausted
at
the
end
of
each
day
and
more
than
half
of
them
plan
to
leave
the
profession
within
five
years.
So
will
the
minister
of
Education
apologize
for
driving
teachers
from
the
profession.
H
Education
Mr
Speaker
I
just
want
to
share
with
the
whole
house
that
1253
teachers
took
place,
took
part
in
the
survey,
but
Mr
Speaker.
There
are
over
46
000
teachers
in
the
ATA
and
as
well
there's
other
teachers
that
teach
outside
of
the
ATA.
That
being
said,
it
is
of
prime
concern
for
me
to
address
the
issues
that
are
happening
within
our
school
authorities,
so
Mr
Speaker.
Yes,
we've
been
working
on
all
these
issues,
including
class
size
and
I've,
invited
the
ATA
president
and
his
executive
to
meet
with
me.
Z
Mr
Speaker,
given
that
the
government
is
forcing
School
staff
to
work
double
duty
by
reducing
School
Board
requiring
school
boards
to
ensure
that
all
students
are
forced
to
have
both
in
person
and
line
learn
their
learning
when
there
are
large
numbers
of
kids
sick
without
providing
any
new
supports.
We
need
more
staff
and
schools.
As
the
answer,
and
given
that
many
schools
have
seen
an
average
of
10
percent
absenteeism
among
students
and
CBE
reported
last
week
that
122
teaching
jobs
were
unfilled.
54
support
staff
jobs,
weren't
filled.
Z
H
Z
Given
that
the
survey
revealed
that
the
majority
of
teachers
are
using
their
personal
funds
to
purchase
resources
necessary
to
help
them
deliver
the
ucp's
disastrous
curriculum,
and
given
that
84
percent
of
teachers
report
students
having
huge
gaps
in
their
learning
and
not
being
able
to
understand
the
UCP
curriculum,
will
the
minister
of
Education
admit
what
Educators
have
already
been
telling
her
for
more
than
two
years?
Students
deserve
better
than
her
disastrous
curriculum,
which
is
hurting
our
International
reputation
and
Alberta
students.
H
Mr
Speaker,
what
students
deserve
is
less
fear-mongering
from
the
other
side.
That's
what
they
deserve,
because
in
fact,
Mr
Speaker,
the
curriculum
has
been
been
being
implemented
and
is
going
extremely
well.
In
fact,
Mr
Speaker
I
met
with
every
single
School
Division
and
you
know
what
they
didn't
raise.
They
didn't
raise
the
curriculum.
They
didn't
raise,
curriculum.
AB
Speaker
albertans
have
been
struggling
to
receive
consistent,
Quality
Health
Care
for
far
too
long
I'm.
Hearing
concerns
from
my
constituents
at
our
Health
Care
system
is
unable
to
meet
the
current
and
growing
demand.
Their
concerns
are
not
unique,
however.
Across
the
province
albertans
are
demanding
that
Alberta
Health
take
action
and
take
the
necessary
changes
to
address
the
ongoing
issues.
Alberta
Health
Services
is
under
reform
and,
as
a
first
step
has
seen
appointed
an
official
administrator
Dr
John
Cowell.
M
You
Mr
Speaker
and
thank
you
to
The
Honorable
member
for
her
question.
Mr
Speaker.
We
know
that
the
health
system
is
under
strained
here
in
Alberta.
This
is
similar
across
the
entire
country
in
all
provinces
across
the
country.
The
part-time
AHS
board
did
great
work,
Mr
Speaker,
but
we
need
a
full-time
leadership
to
provide
urgent,
efficient,
effective
And,
Timely
and
decisive
leadership
to
improve
productivity
and
Health
Care
outcomes.
AB
Call
thank
you
Mr
Speaker,
given
that
Alberta's
government
has
acknowledged
that
the
current
system
was
not
working
and
there's
an
overdue
need
for
responsible
health
care
and
has
since
committed
to
making
Alberta
Health
its
number
one
priority,
and
given
that
albertans
can
no
longer
continue
to
accept
increasing
wait
times
and
are
eager
to
start
seeing
prompt
changes
in
their
Health
Care
system.
Can
the
minister
of
Health
outline
what
next
steps
will
be
taken
to
address
the
issues
of
our
health
care
System,
the.
M
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker
and
thanks
once
again
to
The
Honorable
member
Dr.
Cowell
has
hit
the
ground
running
and
we
have
identified
four
areas
that
need
his
Swift
attention.
First,
to
improve
EMS
response
times.
Second,
decrease
emergency
room,
wait
times;
third
reduce
wait
times
for
surgery
and
finally
develop
long-term
reforms
through
consultation
with
Frontline
workers
and
others
to
drive
down
decision
making.
We
need
quick
action
on
these
goals.
Mr,
Speaker
and
I'm,
confident
that
he
and
AHS
will
make
the
changes
necessary
to
alleviate
the
strain
on
our
health
care.
System,
November.
AB
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
and
thank
you
to
the
minister,
given
that
Alberta
Health
Services
is
actively
working
towards
operating
at
its
fullest
potential
and
aims
to
have
reforms
completed
as
soon
as
possible,
and
given
that
Dr
Cal
has
been
entrusted
to
work
closely
with
Health
Partners
and
drive
the
necessary
changes
promised
to
Alberta
families,
and
given
that
immediate
action
is
vital
to
ensuring
Alberta
families
have
access
to
the
first
class
Health
Care
they
deserve.
Can
the
minister
outline
how
albertans
will
be
assured
that
the
official
administrator
is
successfully
affecting
change
the.
M
Of
Health
thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
and
thanks
once
again
to
The
Honorable
member
Mr
Speaker.
We
all
know
that
you
manage
what
you
measure,
so
that
is
why
we
have
actually
put
in
place
a
number
of
measurements
to
be
able
to
track
the
progress
that
AHS
is
making.
These
indicators
include
reduced
response
time
from
an
emergency
call
to
ambulance
arrival,
reduce
waiting
times
in
Alberta's
emergency
rooms,
reduce
surgery
wait
times
within
clinically
acceptable,
wait
times
the
number
of
calls
appropriately
stepped
down
from
9-1-1
to
health,
League
Mr
Speaker.
M
AC
Mr
Speaker,
since
June
of
2021
albertans
have
been
forced
to
pay
to
visit
Canada.
The
government's
k-pass
program
has
raked
in
15
million
dollars
dollars
that
should
never
have
been
taken
from
the
hard-working
people
of
this
province.
Even
worse,
2
million
of
that
went
to
security
firm
to
enforce
the
pass.
This
government
cost
albertans
millions
and
lied
about
where
that
money
went
all.
While
this
government
operates
on
a
surplus,
can
the
minister
please
explain
to
albertans
why
they
continue
to
pay
for
this
pass?
AD
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
question.
My
very
first
of
this
session
I'd
like
to
talk
about
our
parts
here,
I
like
to
promote
them
everywhere.
As
for
the
k-pass,
it's
under
review
with
a
new
premier
and
a
new
crew,
we
want
to
ensure
it's
fair
and
good
and
accomplishing
all
that
it
should
viewing
a
mountain,
its
Peaks
like
a
steeple.
It's
a
fact
that
parks
are
for
people.
AC
Many
people
in
Alberta
want
to
spend
their
time
off
enjoying
Alberta's
mountains,
but
given
the
cost
of
living
crisis,
the
government's
absurd
k-pass
program
has
made
a
trip
to
the
mountains,
I'm
infeasible
for
many
albertans,
and
given
that
the
premier
herself
has
described
the
k-pass
program
as
ridiculous
and
said
she
was
in
agreement
with
the
NDP
that
this
pass
did
not
continue.
Can
the
minister
tell
us
when
albertans
will
not
have
to
pay
the
k-pass
any
longer
the.
AD
Thanks
again
for
the
question
and
I'm
resisting
the
urge
to
go
into
Dr
Seuss
rhyme
again,
this
government
is
focused
on
the
concerns
of
albertans,
we're
concerned
on
affordability,
health
care
and
dealing
with
an
obstructionist
federal
government.
However,
we
can
walk
and
chew
gum
at
the
same
time,
and
so
we
are
working
on
other
issues
too,
including
the
k-pass
and
making
sure
that
our
parks
are
serving
the
needs
of
albertans
and
our
visitors
and,
of
course,
increasing
tourism.
The
k-pass
is
one
of
those
things
we're
reviewing
and
working
on.
Thank
you.
AC
Given
that
many
people
choose
to
live
in
Alberta
because
of
our
unique
access
to
outdoor
Landscapes
and
given
that
the
usage
of
albertus
parks
has
hit
record
numbers
during
the
pandemic,
with
provincial
parks
seeing
around
a
48
increase
in
visitors
since
2020,
and
given
that
albertans
budgets
are
simply
stretched
too
thin
at
the
moment,
why
is
the
minister
still
reviewing
this
when
he
knows
full
well
that
this
would
help
albertans
visit
Canada's
country
today?
Don't
wait
for
a
review
just
repeal
the
k-pass
today?
Why
can't
he
commitment
The.
AC
AD
Parks
and
tourism,
thanks
again
for
the
question.
It's
always
interesting
to
hear
the
NDP
talk
about
cost
and
how
things
are
costing
albertans,
of
course,
the
NDP
they
brought
in
the
carbon
tax
that
they
didn't
campaign
on
when
they
and
that
increased
the
cost
of
everything
for
all
albertans
and
now,
as
we,
we
know
that
they're
supporting
their
comrades
in
Ottawa
regarding
the
the
tripling
of
the
carbon
tax
and
but
maybe
maybe
it's
a
news
flash
to
them.
L
Mr
Speaker
yesterday
I
asked
the
minister
of
jobs.
If
he
would
Echo
the
official
opposition's
pledge
to
support
firefighters
who
responded
to
the
horse
River
wildfire
in
Fort
McMurray,
nearly
2
500
structures
were
destroyed
and
firefighters
were
exposed
to
massive
amounts
of
toxins
and
carcinogens
for
days
without
the
ability
to
decontaminate
the
minister
declined
and
instead
suggested
individual
cases
should
come
to
him.
Why
won't
this
government
do
the
right
thing
commit
to
extending
presumptive
cancer
coverage
to
these
Heroes?
They
should
not
have
to
reach
out
to
the
minister
individually
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
AE
Mr
Speaker,
that's
not
what
I
said,
but
I
would
like
to
acknowledge
right
now
that
firefighters
have
a
very
demanding
job
and
Mr
Speaker.
We
need
to
have
their
back
when
it's
necessary
and
it's
necessary.
Now.
That's
why
Alberta
was
one
of
the
first
jurisdictions
in
Canada
to
put
forward
presumptive
coverage
and
Mr
Speaker,
every
single
firefighter
in
Fort,
McMurray
or
otherwise
in
Alberta.
Has
that
ability
to
be
presumed
and
have
presumptive
coverage,
but
Mr
Speaker.
AE
L
Given
a
Fort
McMurray
firefighter
with
10
years
of
service
fought
the
horse,
River
Wildfire
was
subsequently
diagnosed
with
kidney
cancer.
Given
this
Fort
McMurray
Wildfire
firefighter
and
his
family
were
denied
coverage
when
he
didn't
meet
the
cancer
latency
period
he
has
since
passed,
and
his
family
is
still
appealing
four
years
later,
given
a
Leduc
firefighter
who
fought
the
same,
Wildfire
is
currently
going
through
the
appeals
process
after
being
denied
coverage.
C
AE
Speaker,
we're
always
monitoring
these
complex
issues
we
they're
evidence-based.
If
the
evidence
proves
that
this
is
caused
as
a
result
of
their
service,
Mr
Speaker,
it's
included
in
the
list-
we're
constantly
updating
it,
but
Mr
Speaker
would
I
be
with
firefighters.
I've
been
in
politics
for
almost
20
years,
Mr,
Speaker
and
I'll
meet
with
anybody
anytime,
especially
those
people
that
serve
albertans.
That's
right,
The.
L
Again
yesterday,
the
minister
was
unaware
that
Alberta
is
no
longer
the
leader
in
the
country
in
presumptive
cancer
coverage,
given
that
the
Yukon
BC
Manitoba
Ontario
Newfoundland,
are
now
covering
cancers.
Alberta
does
not
like
peanut,
pancreatic
and
thyroid,
given
that
Alberta
firefighters
are
being
denied
coverage
for
those
Cancers
and
given
we
have
new
research
like
that
from
the
international
Agency
for
research
on
cancer.
Will
this
minister
in
government
commit
like
the
official
opposition,
has
to
updating
presumptive
cancer
coverage
based
on
the
latest
science.
AE
Mr
Speaker,
that
party
was
in
power
just
three
years
ago
and
what
did
they
do
for
the
firefighters
and
for
this
nothing
Mr
Speaker?
We
are
working
on
it.
It's
a
complex
matter,
it's
evidence-based
and
we're
working
to
balance.
What's
in
the
best
interest
of
firefighters
and
the
best
interest
of
albertans,
because
they
work
together,
Mr
Speaker
you're
here,
The.
AF
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
on
November,
25th
of
this
year,
a
decades-long
awaited
announcement
was
provided
to
Southern
albertans,
the
premier,
along
with
the
transportation
and
infrastructure
ministers,
joined
me
in
Medicine
Hat,
to
announce
the
twinning
of
not
only
the
stretch
of
highway
between
Tabor
and
Burdette,
but
also
the
twinning
of
the
whole
of
Highway
3.
so
to
the
premier
or
the
minister
of
Transportation.
Why
was
it
so
important
to
announce
this
critical
piece
of
infrastructure
now.
AG
But
for
his
advocacy
for
twinning
highway,
three
I
was
proud
to
stand
beside
him,
the
premier
and
the
deputy
Premier
to
announce
that
we
are
twinning
highway.
Three
and
that'll
be
a
four-lane
highway
from
Medicine
Hat.
All
the
way
to
the
BC
border
and
Mr
Speaker
it'll
safely
keep
up
to
the
economic
growth
in
Southern
Alberta,
especially
we're
seeing
huge
gains
in
the
Agriculture
and
oil
and
gas
industry
down
there
and
Mr
Speaker.
As
a
government.
We
will
attract
investment,
secure
jobs
and
protect
communities
all
across
this
province.
The.
AF
Thank
you,
Minister,
given
many
in
Southern
Alberta
have
been
waiting
for
a
long
time
for
this
announcement
and
given
that
the
the
quarter
between
Lethbridge
and
Medicine
Hat
has
become
a
major
agri-food
process
in
quarter
in
Canada.
Can
the
minister
tell
us
what
this
important
training
project
will
do
to
grow
the
agri-food
processing
Corridor
in
this
area.
AG
Here
and
again,
The
Honorable
member
from
Tabor
Warner
has
not
only
advocated
to
Twin
Highway
3,
but
has
also
helped
to
bring
in
investment
all
across
Southern
Alberta.
This
government
has
helped
to
create
a
game
changer
investment
to
expand,
200,
000,
more
irrigated
acres
in
Southern
Alberta,
and
that's
a
track
ready
to
eat
potato
product
processors,
sugar
beet
processors,
expanded
our
livestock
sector,
Mr
Speaker.
So
these
types
of
Investments
that
the
government
is
doing
really
does
help
job
creators
in
this
province,
which
has
strong
families
and
strong
communities
all
across
the
province.
Member.
C
AF
Speaker,
given
that
I
mentioned
in
my
earlier
question
this
question,
the
stretch
of
highway
between
Tabor
and
Burdette
is
to
be
twinned
and
given
the
fact
that
this
stretch
of
road
will
be
the
first
of
eight
sections
to
be
twinned,
can
the
minister
of
Transportation
in
economic
quarters
please
provide
this
house
with
more
information
about
when
shovels
will
be
in
the
ground.
On
this
first
section,
the.
AG
Minister
Mr
Speaker
to
answer
the
question
next
spring,
but
not
if,
but
not.
If,
though,
Mr
Speaker
Alberta
had
Federal
NDP
Representatives
as
their
provincial
government.
Now
the
NDP
wants
to
bring
in
restrictive
contract
Arrangements
that
will
actually
spark
labor
Wars
here
in
the
province
of
Alberta.
So
look
what
the
NDP
just
did
in
BC.
They
increased
the
cost
about
20
to
30
percent
of
provincial
construction
projects.
The
NDP
drastically
reduced
the
numbers
of
bidders
on
these
projects
cutting
the
number
of
eligible
contractors.
C
T
AH
Be
it
resolved
that,
when
further
consideration
of
Bill
one
Alberta
sovereignty
within
a
United
Canada
Act
is
resumed,
no
more
than
one
hour
shall
be
allotted
to
any
further
consideration
of
the
bill
and
third
reading.
At
which
time
every
question
necessary
for
the
dispose
of
the
bill
at
this
stage
shall
be
put
forth
with.
AI
C
D
L
You
very
much
Mr
Speaker.
This
morning
the
official
opposition
met
with
members
of
the
AP
ffpa,
the
Alberta
professional
firefighters
and
paramedics,
Association
I'm
a
table
leave
five
copies
of
their
three
Lobby
papers,
addressing
the
crisis
in
EMS
and
pre-hospital
Care
government
of
Alberta
restriction
on
Alberta
pension
services
and
presumptive
cancer,
coverages
firefighter
and
Alberta
cancer
registry
and
catastrophic
traumatic
exposure.
Other.
AJ
You
Mr
Speaker
I've
got
two
tablings
today.
First
one
is
a
white
paper
by
the
Canadian
Federation
of
Independent
Grocers,
showing
that
Grocers
make
two
percent
margins.
I
have
the
five
requisite
copies
here.
A
second
one,
I
have
is
a
report
by
Dalhousie
University,
showing
that
there's
many
reasons
for
the
higher
prices
we're
seeing
on
grocery
store
shelves,
but
one
of
them
is
not
gouging
from
grocery
retailers.
I
have
the
five
requisite
copies
as
well.
There.
AI
You
Mr
Speaker
more
prepared
for
this
one,
so
thank
you
very
much.
Please
arise
to
move
second
reading
of
Bill
three,
the
property
rights
statutes,
Amendment
Act
of
2022..
Now
Mr
Speaker
albertans
value
their
land.
They
work
hard
for
it.
They
work
hard
to
maintain
it.
They
work
hard
to
improve
it.
It's
their
home,
it's
their
place
of
relaxation
and
Recreation,
and
for
some
folks,
like
our
farmers
and
ranchers,
the
lands
also
their
livelihood,
given
how
hard
albertans
work
for
the
land
and
how
important
it
is
to
them.
AI
Alberta's
laws
should
be
there
to
protect
property
rights
for
the
owners
of
this
land.
However,
under
current
provincial
law,
it's
possible
for
albertans
to
have
the
land
taken
away
from
them
through
adverse
possession.
Now
this
means
that
someone
who
has
been
squatting
upon
privately
owned
land
can
go
to
court
and
potentially
claim
ownership
if
they've
been
occupying
the
land
for
10
years
as
it
stands
now,
adverse
possessors
can't
try
to
claim
public
land
or
Municipal
land
or
irrigation
districts
land
in
the
irrigation
districts.
AI
This
proposed
legislation
wants
to
make
this
the
same
for
privately
held
land,
allowing
squatters
to
take
land
away
from
hard-working
albertans
who
are
the
rightful
land
owners
is
unfair.
It
creates
stress
for
landowners
because
they
have
to
constantly
police
the
property
and
to
protect
it
from
adverse
possession,
for
example,
by
monitoring
property
lines
and
continually
fixing
fences.
AI
Someone
who
has
inherited
or
paid
for
the
land
and
is
the
registered
owner
shouldn't
have
to
face
a
constant
and
nebulous
threat
of
losing
it.
The
property
rights
statutes,
Amendment
act
2022,
proposes
changes
which
will
remove
this
threat
and
give
private
landowners.
The
same
protections
that
are
currently
in
place
for
public
land,
Bill
3
proposes
to
amend
three
existing
pieces
of
legislation.
AI
AI
Amendments
to
the
Land
Titles
Act
will
also
protect
titles
that
are
already
existing
when
these
have
been
issued
on
the
basis
of
a
court
order.
Finding
adverse
possession
and
the
limitations
Act
is
being
amended
to
remove
limitation
periods
for
a
claim
to
recover
possession
of
real
property
and
for
a
claim
respecting
lasting
improvements
or
encroachments.
Under
the
law
of
property.
Act,
specifically,
when
a
registered
owner
starts
an
action
to
recover
possession
of
land,
the
adverse
possessor
will
not
be
able
to
use
a
defense
of
adverse
possession.
AI
If
these
changes
pass,
folks
will
no
longer
be
able
to
go
to
court
to
claim
adverse
possession
of
land
that
they
are
occupying,
and
if
someone
is
possessing
land
that
they
are
not
the
registered
owner
of
registered
owners
can
get
a
court
order
to
get
the
land
back
at
any
time
now,
Mr
Speaker
make
no
mistake.
These
proposed
changes
are
dearly
sought
by
albertans.
AI
This
fact
is
based
on
consultations
and
recommendations
from
various
interested
groups.
Back
in
2016,
the
property
rights
Advocate
recommended
abolishing
adverse
possession
in
their
annual
report
and
in
2020
the
Alberta
law
reform.
Institute
also
recommended
abolishing
adverse
possession
here
in
Alberta
a
number
of
honorable
members
as
well.
Honorable
members
of
this
assembly,
LED
consultations
with
stakeholders
and
the
public
over
several
months
in
2021
and
22
as
members
of
the
select
special
committee
on
real
property
rights.
AI
Now
part
of
this
committee's
mandate
was
to
consider
whether
the
law
of
adverse
possession
should
be
abolished.
During
their
consultations,
the
committee
received
many
heartfelt
pleas
and
requests
from
albertans
Farmers
landowners
to
abolish
it
and
recommend
it
as
much
in
their
final
report
and
I
want
to
thank
this
committee.
For
listening
to
albertans
and
making
this
recommendation
on
their
behalf,
the
work
of
the
committee,
along
with
recommendations
of
expert
groups,
sends
a
strong
message
that
adverse
possession
should
be
abolished
now
before
I.
Finish.
AI
If
passed,
the
property
rights
statutes,
Amendment
Act
of
2022,
will
send
a
clear
message
that
squatting
cannot
lead
to
ownership.
It
would
allow
Alberta's
landowners
to
use
and
to
enjoy
their
property
without
the
ongoing
burden
of
making
sure
that
no
one
is
using
it
and
the
constant
worry
of
potentially
losing
their
land.
It
will
strengthen
Alberta's
property
rights
law
and
bring
peace
of
mind
to
landowners
across
the
province
and
with
that
Mr
Speaker
I'm
happy
to
move
second
reading
of
Bill
three.
Thank
you.
Honorable.
C
N
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
it's
a
pleasure
to
rise
and
speak
at
second
reading
of
Bill
3,
the
property
rights
statutes.
Amendment
act,
I've
taken
the
chance
to
read
the
bill,
something
which
I
think
all
members
of
the
assembly
should
do
before
they
stand
up
and
speak
and
debate
on
a
bill
is
to
actually
read
the
bill
that
sorry
Mr,
Speaker
I
know
that
shouldn't
have
to
be
said.
N
But
given
what
we've
seen
from
this
government
caucus
over
the
last
week
or
so
I
think
it's
a
timely
reminder
that
one
should
know
the
bills
when
they're
going
to
speak
out
and
make
accusations
about
what
it
means.
You
should
first
understand
what
it
means.
So
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
look
over
Bill
3
and
the
property
rights
statutes,
Amendment
act
and
essentially
Mr
Speaker
I,
think
there's
pretty
much
consensus
within
the
members
of
the
I.
N
Don't
want
to
I,
don't
want
to
presume
for
my
colleagues
of
course,
but
there
does
seem
to
be
a
consensus
around
what
this
bill
is
intended
to
address,
which
is
of
course,
to
essentially
limit
or
eliminate
the
common
law
adverse
possession
right.
So
most
people
might
be
familiar
with
the
idea
of
adverse
possession,
maybe
not
in
its
formal
sense
of
the
word,
but
the
idea
of
squatters
rights.
N
The
idea
that,
if
somebody
has
we've
all
heard
the
old
saying,
Mr
Speaker,
you
know
possession
is
nine
tenths
of
the
law,
the
idea
being
that,
if
you've,
you
know,
possessed
a
piece
of
land
or
property
for
for
a
period
of
time.
Eventually
it
becomes
yours
and
that's
sort
of
the
underlying
principle
behind
this
sort
of
adverse
possession
that
if
an
individual
has
occupied
an
area
of
land
for
a
significant
period
of
time
and
has
exercised
use
of
that
land,
then
it
becomes
it
becomes
theirs.
N
You
know
it
seems
contrary
to
what
we
kind
of
know
about
the
strong
sense
of
Pride
that
albertans
and
particularly
rural
albertans,
take
in
their
land
and
their
property.
But
of
course,
often
on
Rural
properties.
You
know
there
isn't
clear
delineation
the
way
we
would
see
in
an
urban
center
where
you
have
an
idea.
What
your
property
line
is.
You've
got
a
city,
municipality
comes
out
and
assesses
it
and
you've
got
your
property
lines
and
you
usually
have
a
you,
know,
fence
or
something,
of
course
in
rural
areas.
N
N
You
know
essentially
limited
or
eliminated
through
through
legislation,
so
I'm
glad
to
see
this
come
forward.
One
of
the
things
that
I
think,
of
course,
the
second
reading
as
we're
talking
about
things
in
a
high
level,
I
have
read
the
bill
and
there's
a
couple
questions
that
it
seems
to
align
with
a
number
of
the
recommendations
that
have
come
forward
through
a
number
of
bodies,
including
the
Alberta
law
reform
Institute.
So
the
Alberta
law
reform
Institute
issued
I
believe
it
is
in
2017
a
they
did.
N
A
full-some
kind
of
analysis
of
adverse
possession
and
they
issued
a
final
report
that
that
sort
of
outlined
the
recommendations
about
the
pieces
of
legislation
that
would
have
to
be
changed
and
amended
to
address
these
issues
around
adverse
possession.
Further
to
that
Alberta
law
reform
Institute
report.
We
know
that
you
know
our
select
special
committee
on
Real
Property,
went
out
and
and
consulted
and
basically
reached
similar
conclusions
about
how
legislation
should
be
amended.
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
you
know,
I
wanted.
N
I
was
looking
for
and
I
want
to
give
credit
actually
to
an
article
written
by
this
was
actually
written
in
20,
19,
September,
10
2019
by
Stella
varvis,
and
it's
a
it's
a
sort
of
a
blog
post
put
on
ablog.ca,
which
is
you
know,
a
law
blog
shout
out
to
anybody
who
watched
Arrested,
Development
blah
blah
blah
blah
blah?
No
okay,
anyways.
N
It's
a
law
blog
about
written
by
University
of
Calgary
law,
professors
on
various
issues
and
Stella
varvis
wrote,
wrote
a
blog
post
about
the
end
of
adverse
possession
and
sort
of
outlined
a
number
of
things
that
should
be.
We
should
look
for
when
it
actually
comes
time
to
do
that.
So
the
first,
the
first
issue
that
should
be
addressed
is
that
you
know
we
know
that
adverse
possession
is
usually
there's
a
10-year
limitation
period.
N
They
have
an
individual
has
to
have
occupied
it
for
at
least
10
years,
and
they
had
that
occupation
must
be
exclusive,
open
and
notorious
and
continuous.
So
there
was
that's
the
sort
of
standard
the
Stella
varvis
and
her
blog
post
was
essentially
saying.
Okay,
look!
If
we're
going
to
be
eliminating
adverse
possession
through
statute,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
aren't
sort
of
messing
with
that's,
probably
not
the
term.
She
used.
It's
not
the
term.
She
used
with
any
adverse
possession
claims
that
had
come
before
this
law
had
come
into
four.
N
So
basically
saying
you
know
if
there
have
been
adverse
possession
claims
that
have
been
made
prior
to
any
amendments
being
made,
they
should
be
held
in
force
and
as
that's
just
the
same
should
apply
for
any
pending
claim.
So
if
there
are
any
matters
before
the
courts
at
the
time
that
this
bill
would
say,
perhaps
be
proclaimed,
then
we
would
ensure
that
those
claims
could
proceed
under
the
previous
common
law
and
I
believe
that
that
is
addressed
in
the
bill
in
Bill
tree
I.
N
My
my
reading
of
it
suggests
that
section,
one
subsection
three
of
the
of
Bill
3,
does
seem
to
address
that
by
basically
saying
that
you
know
when
the
when
this
bill
would
come
into
force
and
that
any
I'm
looking
at
changes
to
section
70
or
the
addition
of
section
74.1
to
the
Land
Titles,
Act
and
subsection.
Two,
which
says
any
successful
claim
to
quiet
title
recovered
under
the
former
provision
continues,
which
seems
to
suggest
that,
yes,
any
claims
that
happened
before
the
ACT
come
into
comes
into
effect
would
be
continuing.
N
So
that
seems
to
address
that
concern
as
well
as
that.
Any
ongoing
claims
would
also
continue
so
I
believe
that
appears
to
be
addressed,
and
these
are
kind
of
questions
I'm,
posing
with
the
hope
that
perhaps
the
Minister
of
Justice
could
also
comment
as
to
whether
his
reading
is
the
same
that
it
does.
That
it
does
address
these
issues,
I
assume
he's
capable
of
reading
the
bill
and
understanding
it.
N
N
N
N
Oh
sorry,
section
three
subsection
two,
which
does
seem
to
suggest
that
there's
no
limitation
period
on
a
claimant
who's
made
improvements
to
the
land,
so
that
again
seems
to
be
addressed
by
the
bill.
The
the
second
or
third
issue.
I
should
raise
that
sorry,
no!
Actually,
the
third
issue
is:
oh
I
already
talked
about
that.
Never
mind
I'm
jumping
ahead.
The
fourth
issue
is
that
actually
the
blog
suggests
that
there
should
not
actually
be
significant
changes
to
the
definitions.
N
In
section
69
of
the
law
property
act
that
essentially,
it
doesn't
change
who
needs
to
be
who's
defined,
as
somebody
who
has
an
interest
and
that
there's
no
requirement
that
there
be
proof
that
the
individual
had
a
mistaken
belief
and
again
I
believe
that
is
addressed
in
the
bill.
But
I
would
seek
confirmation
from
the
from
the
Minister
of
Justice.
On
that
issue.
N
When
we're
talking
about
this
kind
of
possession
of
land,
we're
often
talking
about
it
going
back
decades
and
generations
that
it's
not
a
responsibility
for
an
error
or
an
assigned
to
follow
to
actually
have
to
prove
that
their
you
know
their
parent,
their
grandparent,
their
great
grandparent
had
a
genuine
belief.
They
don't
have
to
prove
that
it's
simply
assumed
because
that's
often
an
impossible
thing
to
prove.
So
that's
what
the
the
committee
recommended
that
it
not
be
required
to
be
approved
and
I
believe
that's
reflected
in
the
ACT
or
in
the
bill.
N
Sorry,
and
that
the
limitation
periods
be
addressed.
As
discussed
in
that
law
blog
that
I
issued.
That's
another
recommendation
that
came
from
the
committee
once
again.
It
appears
that
that
has
been
addressed
so
I
I
outline
this
Madam
speaker
only
to
say
that
you
know
those
are
the
checks
and
balances
that
we
would
normally
go
through
when
we're
looking
at
these
kind
of
changes,
we
would
look
at
what
committee
work
has
been
done.
What
consultation
has
been
done?
N
What
shockingly
the
experts
believe
on
something
and
in
this
case
right
the
experts
from
the
Alberta
law
reform
Institute,
who
have
done
the
analysis,
I,
Believe,
In,
following
expert
advice
and
considering
that
seriously
I
again
should
not
be
a
controversial
statement,
but
it
seems
to
be
more
and
more
controversial
with
this
government
and
this
Premier,
but
you'd
look
at
all
those
pieces.
You
look,
of
course,
at
the
landowners
themselves
and
their
feedback
and
I
believe
that
was
very
much.
N
The
work
of
the
committee
was
to
travel
around
and
do
that
kind
of
analysis
and
listen
to
landowners
and
hear
what
their
concerns
are
and
then
to
draft
legislation
that
meets
those
recommendations
and
legislation
that
has
been
thoughtfully.
You
know
gone
through
all
the
proper
processes,
legislative
Review,
Committee
cabinet
committee,
all
of
those
things,
the
rigors
and
processes
that
we
would
expect
from
strong
legislation.
N
That's
what
we'd
want
to
see,
and
so
I
can
say
that
it
appears
that
with
Bill
3,
that
that
has
been
that
has
happened,
can't
say
that
that's
happened
for
all
the
bills
that
have
been
brought
forward
by
this
by
this
government
and
this
Premier
so
far
this
session.
But
certainly
in
this
case
it
does
seem
to
reflect
that
now
that
doesn't
mean
that
there
aren't
still
questions
for
implications
on,
for
example,
the
court.
N
So
if
we
are
going
to
remove
this
common
law
principle
of
adverse
possession,
are
there
implications
for
the
courts,
especially
when
we're
removing
limitation
periods
for
claims
related
to
Improvement
events
that
have
been
made
on
on
land?
Is
there?
Has
there,
in
any
analysis,
been
done
by
you
know
by
the
government
as
to
whether
or
not
there
will
be
any
implications
for
the
court
system?
I
think
this
is
an
important
question
to
ask
Madam
speaker,
as
we
know
that
our
court
systems
are
continue
to
be
under
enormous
strain
and
with
limited
resources.
N
So
what
are
the
implications?
Are
there
any
I
think
that's
a
question
to
ask
the
other
key
issue
that
I
would
raise
Madam
speaker,
which
I
I
would
have
to
go
back,
and
perhaps
those
those
members
who
were
on
the
select
special
committee
for
real
property
can
speak
to
this
when
they
have
an
opportunity,
but
I'd
like
to
know
what
the
feedback
was
from
indigenous
groups
such
as
First,
Nations
and
metis
associations
about
what
consultation
was
done.
N
There's
you
know
we're
talking
about
adverse
possession,
we're
usually
talking
about
adverse
possession
on
private
land,
not
Crown,
Land,
there's
different,
obviously
different
considerations
that
happen
on
crownland,
but
I
would
want
to
be
satisfied
that
we
have
consulted
appropriately
and
that
there
has
been
an
opportunity
for
feedback
and
assessment
of
any
lands
where
potentially
metis
in
first
nations
may
be
occupying
to
be
sure
that
there
are
no
implications
here
that
may
affect
their
treaty
rights.
So
I'm
not
again.
N
I
will
put
that
to
members
of
the
caucus,
government
and
opposition
who
may
have
sat
on
committee
to
should
say
what
feedback
they
would
have
received
because
I,
don't
I,
didn't
hear
any
reflection
of
those
comments
from
the
Minister
of
Justice
when
he
introduced
this
bill
for
second
reading.
So
you
know
Madam,
speaker
I,
as
I
mentioned.
You
know
this
is
this
is
really
a
bill
that
I
think
we
can
fundamentally
support
with
some
questions
answered.
N
N
It's
a
principle
that
we
fundamentally
agree
with,
and
particularly
now
in
Alberta,
positioned
at
a
time
of
potentially
great
opportunity.
Certainty
is
more
important
than
ever.
It's
what
we
hear
loud
and
clear
from
the
business
Community
from
oil
and
gas
sector
from
those
who
have
major
projects.
They
want
to
know
that
there
is
certainty,
that's
why
we
are
do
not
support
any
legislation,
that's
going
to
bring
greater
chaos
and
uncertainty
to
our
economy,
such
as
Bill
one
brought
forward
by
this
government.
So
you
know
I
think
we.
N
Our
principles
have
been
pretty
clear
on
this
Madam
speaker.
We
know
which
way
the
economy
needs
when
we
know
what,
where
we
talk
to
all
those
individuals
and
and
now
I've
been
doing
this
work
and
I
know.
My
colleagues
have
as
well
across
the
province.
They
want
to
have
some
certainty
with
respect
to
their
rights
and
they
want
to
have
certainty
with
respect
to
Investments
and
the
growth
of
their
oil
and
gas
sector
or
agriculture
or
forestry,
whatever
the
sector.
We
need
that
kind
of
certainty.
N
AK
Well,
thank
you,
madam
speaker,
pleasure
to
rise
and
to
speak
to
bills
through
the
property
rights
amendment
act
as
a
member
of
the
committee
that
did
travel
The
Province
to
do
consultation
on
the
potential
changes
that
were
going
to
be
under
what
was
Bill
206
and
now
has
been
drafted
as
Bill
3..
We
heard
quite
a
bit
of
feedback
in
relation
to
a
variety
of
different
things
that
could
be
changed.
AK
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
I
also
appreciate
about
Bill
3
and
something
that
I
think
all
members
of
the
the
chamber
can
appreciate
is
that
this
was
a
ability,
a
bipartisan
committee,
where
we
were
able
to
travel
the
province
together
and
do
consultation
together
in
a
collaborative
way
and
have
something
that
was
created.
That
I
think
addresses
the
concerns
that
were
brought
forward.
So
you
know
the
opposition
and
the
government
do
have
the
ability
to
work
together
and
to
come
up
with
something
that
addresses
the
concerns
that
albertans
have.
AK
Now
I
don't
know
if
that
is
addressed
in
this
piece
of
legislation,
if
that
has
been
acknowledged
or
if
we
are
saying
that
the
financial
remedy
component
that
exists
in
the
bill
would
be
primarily
between
two
landowners
side
by
side
or
something
that
has
been
structurally
built.
But
we
do
know
that
there
has
been
concerns
in
the
past
that
were
brought
up
in
regards
to
a
quarter
section
of
land.
AK
Looking
at
the
fact
that
you
know,
there's
also
the
concerns
around
external
impacts
like
noise
and
pollution
traffic
around
certain
areas,
and
how
will
that
be
addressed
under
these
pieces
of
legislation
to
ensure
that
municipalities
have
the
capacity
to
be
able
to
grow
and
and
work
with
their
readers
and
incorporate
their
expansion
or
their
their
growth
within
their
communities,
while
also
ensuring
that
we
are
protecting
landowners
rights?
So
I
do
have
that
question.
AK
So
I
am
anticipating
that
this
is
just
going
to
be
able
to
Grant
the
courts.
The
ability
to
move
through
all
three
of
these
different
components,
whether
it
be
that
the
order
would
be
that
the
the
improvements
be
removed
or
abandoned,
that
an
easement
be
put
and
limited
in
time,
or
that
the
improvements
acquire
the
land
on
which
the
improvements
are
made
from
the
registered
donors
and
the
amount
of
what
to
what
term
the
court
thinks.
AK
We
could
be
looking
at
again
if
we're
talking
about
expansion
of
Roads.
Some
of
that
is
pretty
permanent
infrastructure.
It's
not
as
easily
removed,
so
ensuring
that
there
is
compensation
that
is
appropriate.
I
am
curious
when
the
minister
is
able
to
respond
at
some
point.
I,
don't
believe
that
there
is
any
type,
and
maybe
it
will
be
if,
if
it
would
be
a
regulation
or
not
around
what
those
compensation
levels
would
look
like,
is
it
going
to
just
be
an
assessment
of
property
value?
Is
there
going
to
be
impact?
AK
I
know
we
heard
some
examples
at
Committee
of
an
ongoing
dispute
around
a
fence
line
that
was
actually
within
city
limits,
but
it
was
between
two
owners,
homeowners,
and
there
was
significant
dispute
between
what
side
the
fence
was
on
and
whose
property
it
was
on,
and
this
dispute
has
been
going
on,
for
it
sounds
like
a
significant
period
of
time.
I
think
they
were
at
like
10
years
of
trying
to
work
with
the
city
on
getting
the
zoning,
re-evaluated
and
property
lines,
reassessed
and
just
the
relationship
I.
AK
Couldn't
even
imagine
the
relationship
between
the
two
and
the
two
Neighbors
in
relation
to
trying
to
live
side
by
side
while
disputing
whether
or
not
the
fence
is
on
their
property
or
on
someone
else's
property,
but
that
it
was
something
that
it
just
continuously
kept
coming
up
and
has
been
going
on
for
a
significant
period
of
time.
So
it
would
be
interesting
to
hear
you
know
sort
of
the
remedy
of
how
this
would
work.
AK
In
a
piece
like
that
now
I
know,
we
had
some
other
submissions
that
also
came
in
through
the
through
cap,
in
relation
to
more
specific
to
the
bill
that
we
were
currently
Consulting
on,
which
was
Bill
206.,
which
you
know,
dropped
off
the
order
paper
and
quickly
became
Bill.
Three
well,
not
quickly.
I
think
we
spent
quite
a
few
months
traveling
the
province,
but
there
was
some
recommendations
that
I
think
that
came
through
that
are
not
reflected
in
the
bill
and
I.
Think.
AK
That
needs
to
be
done,
and
so
I'd
be
curious
to
hear
from
one
of
the
ministers
in
relation
to.
If,
if
there
is
any
overlap
or
any
potential
conflict
between
what
let's
say,
for
example,
the
oil
and
gas
industry
already
has
to
go
through
in
getting
approval,
for
you
know
being
able
to
build
a
new
well
or
or
looking
at
pipeline
or
any
of
those
kinds
of
things.
If
this
will
create
a
second
level
that
they
will
have
to
then
work
through
in
relation
to
what
they're
already
doing
with
the
AER
I
think.
AK
We
would
see
that,
similarly,
with
our
grazing
leaseholders
and
of
course,
some
of
the
forestry
industry
may
have
some
questions
in
re.
In
relation
to
this,
and
and
just
how
those
Land
Management
Agreements
are
going
to
be
reflected,
how
does
this
bill
interact
with
those
pieces
of
legislation
because,
of
course
we
don't?
K
You
so
much
to
the
member
from
demanding
I'm,
just
Blown
Away
by
her
knowledge
on
this
and
I
know
she
was
one
of
the
one
of
the
committee
members
as
well,
and
so
you
know,
I
I,
just
thought.
I'd
jump
up
when,
when
she
mentioned
she's
been
asking
a
lot
of
really
important
critical
questions
of
the
Justice
minister.
So
I
am
hopeful
that
we
will
hear
from
the
Justice
Minister.
We've
got
a
lot
of
questions
for
him.
I'm.
K
Also
hopeful
that
we'll
hear
from
the
members
of
you
know
the
members
opposite.
You
know
this
is
one
of
their
bills
and
they've
said
that
many
of
them
are
quite
passionate
about
this
they're.
They
mentioned
in
the
opening
remarks
that
that
they're
hearing
from
a
lot
of
their
constituents.
So
it's
it's
a
little
intriguing
that
so
far
it's
only
been
NDP
members
speaking
to
this
bill,
so
I,
just
I
honestly
want
to
learn
more
about
it.
K
AK
AK
AK
AM
AK
So
going
back
to
again
some
some
of
the
other
questions
that
that
did
come
up
so
so
I
do
recognize
that
this
has
overreaching,
not
overreaching.
Sorry,
that's
that's
it!
It
is
intertwined
with
a
variety
of
different
Ministries
in
how
this
can
can
be
interpreted
and
how
this
can
be
impacted,
and
so
you
know
coming
from
work
from
being
in
government.
E
Well,
thank
you,
madam
speaker.
I'm
actually
really
excited
today
to
stand
up
and
support
of
Bill
3.
The
property
rights
statutes.
Amendment
act
as
the
member
was
stating
previously
I
was
the
chair
of
the
slack
special
committee
on
real
property
rights.
We
engaged
this
work
we
submitted.
Of
course,
the
report,
mid-summer
and
I
was
extremely
excited
about
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
be
the
chair
of
this
initiative.
E
Travel
around
the
province
and
engage
in
this
very
important
conversation
which
does
surround
property
rights,
which
many
of
us
expressed
as
actually
being
the
one
of
the
foundational
pillars
of
our
freedom
in
our
country.
Throughout
that
process
we
engaged
in
many
different
ways.
It's
you
know.
We
had
some
limited
capacity
at
times
during
covet,
but
of
course
we
did
have
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
travel
around
to
locations
throughout
the
province.
E
North,
Central
South
and
you
know,
allow
individuals
to
be
able
to
approach
us
and
bring
to
us
the
issues
that
mattered
to
them
most
and
and
what
I
would
say
is
throughout
that
process.
Adverse
possession
came
up
numerous
times
and
what
I
think
I
found
was
shocking.
More
than
anything
was
that
Alberta
was
an
outlier
in
this
area.
Adverse
possession,
this
archaic
law,
better
known
as
squatter's
rights,
had
been
abolished
in
many
other
provinces,
and
with
that
we
recognize
you
know
what
was
the
purpose
of
this?
Why
was
the
still?
E
Why
was
this
still
a
thing
in
a
province
like
Alberta?
That
of
course
had
been
so
extensively
surveyed
that
there
was.
There
was
really
no
reason
for
this
kind
of
archaic
law
to
exist
anymore
and
and
with
the
written
submissions
we
saw
many
specialists
that
spoke
to
the
impacts
of
what
can
happen
in
adverse
possession
anecdotally.
E
And
you
know
it
was
those
types
of
stories
that
really
brought
this
legislation
to
to
the
top
of
the
pile
it.
It
just
was
so
outdated
and
we
kept
hearing
this
over
and
over
again,
both
in
the
written
submissions
in
the
virtual
meeting
that
we
also
had
that
we
hosted
here
in
Edmonton.
We
had
a
lot
of
people,
call
in
and
speak
about
adverse
possession
and
how
it
needed
to
be
removed
as
soon
as
possible,
and
even
one
individual
shared
stories
that
this
isn't
just
a
rural
issue
that
this
this.
E
The
neighborhood
claimed
that
land
and
it
actually
put
his
own
house,
his
own
house,
the
house
he
lived
in
into
non-compliance,
which
severely
would
impact
his
his
evaluation
of
his
property
when
he
goes
south
and
and
when
you
think
about
these
instances
and-
and
you
think
about
what
the
impact
is
on
these
landowners
and
considering
that
for
a
lot
of
people
in
Alberta,
their
largest
investment
is
their
home.
This.
This
is
where
people
put
the
bulk
of
their
money
for
their
entire
lives.
E
This
bill,
Bill
3,
the
property
rights
statute,
Amendment
act
that
does
abolish
adverse
possession
is
protecting
landowners
and
it's
protecting
one
of
their
greatest
Investments
and
I.
Think
that's.
What
we
need
to
focus
on
here
right
now
is
is
doing
that
there
you
have
to
be
able
to
to
protect
landowners
when
it
comes
to
their
property.
E
This
is
an
extremely
outdated
piece
of
legislation.
It
protects
property
owners
and,
and
their
most,
their
largest
investment
in
many
cases,
which
is
their
property.
So
I
think
this.
This
alberta-led
conversation
is
extremely
important
and
with
that
members
office,
it
also
partook
in
in
this
engagement
throughout
the
pro
Province,
and
they
they
were
there
to
be
able
to
see
individuals
come
up
on
a
variety
of
different
issues
and
and
I
consider
Bill
3.
E
You
know
an
important
part
of
also
our
platform
commitment
as
a
UCP
government.
One
of
the
things
we
promised
albertans
we
were
going
to
do
was
to
to
look
at
how
we're
going
to
continue
to
strengthen
property
rates
and
protect
them
being
the
fact
that
it
is
one
of
those
fundamental
pillars
of
our
freedoms,
of
our
democracy.
Here
in
Canada,
and
with
that,
of
course,
we
heard
a
lot
of
different
issues.
E
We've
set
it
through
and
through
Farmers.
When
it
comes
down
to
you
think
about
how
many,
how
many
miles
of
fence
that
a
farmer
can
have
it's
pretty
hard
for
them
to
be
checking
if
any
of
those
fences
have
been
moving.
Even
the
ability
to
be
able
to
survey,
that
is
the
cost
of
those
individuals
and
and
with
adverse
possession
in
place.
I
mean
the
amount
of
time
and
effort
a
person
would
have
to
put
in
to
ensuring
that
he's
not
going
to
lose
land
if
fences
are
moved
is
is
just
outrageous.
E
So
this
was
a
learning
experience
for
me
as
the
select
special
committee
on
real
property
rights
and
as
the
chair
is,
it
was
a
huge
learning
exercise
and,
and
though
this
bill
is,
is
simple.
In
essence,
you
recognize
that
it
has
three
overlapping
pieces
of
legislation
that
it
does
affect
in
order
to
have
the
full
protection.
E
You
know
bills
like
this
are
incredibly
important
for
the
future
of
Alberta
and
and
even
the
thought
of
adverse
possession,
though
very
uncommon,
when
you
do
mention
it
to
the
average
individual
they're
actually
I
think
blown
away
that
this
is
something
that
still
can
exist
in
in
today's
society.
Considering
the
technology
that
we
have
to
be
able
to
survey
our
land
to
stake
our
land
and
just
the
thought
alone.
E
That,
because
of
fence,
is
placed
in
the
wrong
position
for
a
period
of
time
that
somebody
can
just
all
of
a
sudden
gain
the
use
of
that
land
permanently.
Take
it
away
from
somebody
else,
so
I'd
like
to
thank
the
Minister
of
Justice
for
putting
this
as
a
priority
in
Bill
3
and
bringing
it
to
this
house.
E
I
think
this
is
going
to
have
an
incredible
impact
for
Alberta,
moving
forward
and
I'm
glad
to
see
that
our
cave
pieces
of
legislation
like
this
are
removed
and
that
this
government
continues
with
its
platform
to
continue
to
protect
and
strengthen
property
rights.
So
thank
you
very
much
Madam
chair
for
my
chance
to
be
able
to
speak
to
this
incredible
Bill.
Thank
you
very
much.
AN
You
know,
I
I,
do
appreciate
the
member
from
Livingston,
for
you
know,
and
the
chair
for
jumping
up
and
and
providing
some
comments.
It's
it's
nice
to
get
that
that
back
and
forth
a
little
bit.
You
know
because
it
was
supposed
to
be
a
joint
effort.
The
the
whole
topic
of
property
rights
has
certainly,
let's
just
call
it
what
it
is.
It's
dragged
on
for
far
too
long.
You
know
past
this
government
past
the
former
NDP
government
passed
that
it's
been
going
on
for
a
while.
AN
AN
When
we
had
the
chance
to
do
the
public
engagement
and
the
the
on-site
engagement
as
well.
I
know
there
were
some
suggestions
around
maybe
some
acts
that
should
be
considered
that
unfortunately
I
think
the
the
committee
didn't
when
thinking
about
its
recommendations,
its
deliberations
and
how
it
could
better
serve
albertans.
AN
There
was
concerns,
of
course,
quality
of
life
around
the
dust
and
whatnot
that
that
was
certainly
brought
up
from
that
individual,
but
also
potential
contamination
of
of
their
well
and
so
I
think
you
know.
Had
we
have
looked
at
giving
ourselves
the
ability
to
consider
that
act.
You
know
we
would
have
been
able
to
to
have
a
lot
more
information
to
be
able
to
come
to
to
some
recommendations
and-
and
certainly
water
did
come
up
several
times
and
now
that
I
I
think
about
it.
AN
You
know
when
we
had
that
recent
issue
with
a
potential
I
think
it
was
a
feed
lot
near
one
of
our
Lakes,
certainly
having
to
consider
you
know
the
Water
Act
you
know
might
have
been
might
have
been
helpful
in
in
some
of
these
Duluth.
So
again,
you
know
just
just
I
think
a
missed
opportunity
on
on
our
part.
AN
Now
there
was
one
thing:
I
did
want
to
point,
because
my
my
friend
from
Edmonton
White
mud
had
pointed
out
around
potential
consultations
with
indigenous
metis
I
I
guess
I
was
dismayed
that
we
weren't
able
to
to
be
able
to
go.
Do
on-site
consultations
now.
You
know
I
certainly
know
the
pandemic
played
a
very,
very
large
part
in
making
that
extremely
difficult
and-
and
so
I
really
would
have
liked
to
have
seen.
AN
You
know
the
opportunity
to
get
that
important
input
from
those
those
folks
for
us
to
consider
in
terms
of
recommendations
that
we
gave
to
the
government
so
again
just
kind
of
a
a
little
bit
of
a
missed
opportunity
that
you
know
I,
don't
know
they
always
say
you
know
hindsight's
2020.
Could
you
have
done
something
better
in
terms
of
trying
to
to
reach
out
make
those
connections
it?
AN
You
know
it's
easy
to
to
shine
that
crystal
ball
and
and
try
and
come
up
with
with
an
answer,
and
so
as
as
the
chair
had
mentioned,
you
know,
adverse
possession
did
come
up
quite
a
bit.
That
was
a
certain.
It
was
definitely
a
fascinating
experience
for
me,
I'm
certainly
no
expert
when
it
comes
to
to
property
rights
and
some
of
the
scenarios
that
people
brought
up
during
the
the
consultation
process
and
the
in-person
events
was
was
quite
the
learning
experience
to
say
the
least.
AN
AN
AN
You
know
there
was
also
actually
I
think
it
might
have
been
echfel
again
too,
where
there
was
actually
a
little
bit
of
a
confrontation
between
one
of
the
landowners
and
and
some
hunters,
and
that
was
certainly
a
little
bit
disturbing
to
say
the
least.
So
you
know
would
have
been
nice
again.
If
we
could
have
maybe
had
the
opportunity
to
to
see
something
about
that
in
bill
3.,
one
of
the
other
questions
that
kind
of
popped
up
in
my
mind,
because
I
I
know
this
now
provides
access
to.
AN
AO
AO
Think
one
of
the
things
that
I
heard
as
part
of
the
as
part
of
that
committee
was
that
the
the
need
to
keep
this
adverse
possession
as
a
single
Standalone
bill,
because
it's
been
introduced
many
many
times
over
the
years
in
the
province
as
in
as
part
of
an
Omnibus
Bill,
and
it's
always
failed
and
the
number
of
times
that
it
was
put
forward
as
a
single
Standalone
bill
on
a
PR
by
a
private
member.
It
ended
up
falling
off
the
order
paper.
So
this
is
I
would
hate
to
see
this
happen
again.
AO
AN
Thanks
Madam
speaker
great
comment:
maybe
I'll
take
that
opportunity
to
make
that
plug.
For
you
know,
maybe
we
can
find
some
way
to
extend
the
ability
for
the
house
to
consider
more
time
for
private
members,
business
and
hearing
all
private
members
bills,
not
necessarily
kind
of
pushing
them
to
the
bottom
of
the
order
paper,
but
you're
right
yeah.
We
did
hear
again
that
that
focus
on
adverse
possession.
AN
AN
Should
we
see
a
a
rise
in
these
cases
heading
to
the
justice
of
what
kind
of
pressures
that
might
put
on
our
courtrooms.
We
do
know
that
they
are
a
little
bit
strained
at
the
moment
trying
to
get
through
things.
I
would
again,
you
know.
Albertans
are
excited
they're,
finally,
going
to
be
able
to
to
seek
Justice
to
be
able
to
get.
You
know
some
compensation
and
then
it
gets
bogged
down
in
the
courts,
and
you
know
eventually
we
get
to
it
and
there's
yet
more
waiting.
AN
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that
yeah.
No,
certainly
that
there
were
some
diverse
stories
that
were
brought
forward.
As
some
was
mentioned,
adverse
possession
coming
off
damage
to
to
property
with
you
know
some
Hunters,
certainly
not
all
of
them,
but
there
were
cases
where
damage
was
occurring.
That
kind
of
came
up
a
little
bit.
Potential
Gravel
Pit
locations
like
I,
said
I.
AN
Believe
I
heard
that
at
the
echfel
meeting
there
was
concern
from
a
property
owner
around
the
location
of
gravel
pit.
When
they
first
bought
the
property,
they
were
under
the
understanding
that
nothing
like
that
was
going
to
be
close
by
let
alone
I
believe
it
was
literally
across
the
street
from
them.
AN
Trying
to
remember
which
section
it
was
maybe
it
was
Edson
I
believe
we
heard
some
some
comments
down
in
that
area,
some
of
the
same
things
again:
adverse
possession
coming
up
and
whatnot,
and
so
I
I
think
we
had
the
ability
to
take
in
those
comments
and
and
had
we
expanded.
Maybe
the
list
a
little
bit
would
have
provided
the
the
committee
a
bit
of
an
ability
to
to
be
able
to
consider
more
of
the
comments
as
I
you
know
was
discussed
earlier.
AN
AN
We
have
had
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
to
hear
in
person
from
those
committees
again.
You
know
just
circumstances
at
the
time
and
the
situation
you
know
the
committee
had
to
ask
for
an
extension
because
of
the
the
health
restrictions
that
were
were
in
place
and
the
concerns
there.
We
just
we
weren't
able
to
to
meet
as
as
soon
as
we
had
really
hoped.
AN
You
know.
That's
that's
nobody's
fault.
It
was
just
a
situation
at
the
time,
so
hopefully
we've
we've
managed
to
to
maybe
make
up
for
for
some
of
those.
But
I
look
forward
to
to
more
of
the
comments
from
Members
through
discussion,
likely
I'll
I'll
jump
back
up
as
I.
Remember
things
from
from
our
tour
and
what
albertans
were
looking
for
in
terms
of
changes
to
to
property
rates.
AO
You
very
much
Madam
speaker
and
thank
you
to
the
member
for
your
comments,
and
it
was
quite
enjoyable
to
be
part
of
that
committee
and
and
get
out
and
meet
meet
some
people
and
get
to
travel
the
province.
We
do
have
a
beautiful
Province
and
we
did
manage
all
over
just
about
every
corner
of
it
and
I.
AO
Thank
the
the
chair,
for
you,
know
doing
a
great
job
by
I
I
stood
at
inframe,
I,
think
Cadets
in
under
at
one
point,
and
but
also
like
to
thank
all
the
the
security
team
that
came
with
us
to
all
these
events
and
and
the
staff
that
made
all
this
possible.
And
when
you
talk
about
attendance
at
these
things,
there's
a
lot
that
goes
into
organizing
these.
AO
These
Town
Halls
all
over
the
province
and
you
never
really
know
who
who's
coming
to
get
a
few
submissions
from
folks
that
are
going
to
show
up,
and
then
you
know
there
was
times
where
10
minutes
before
the
meeting
was
supposed
to
start.
There's
the
committee
and
security
and
staff
and
then
finally
people
would
start
trickling
again.
So
they
were
quite
well
attended,
but
I
think
one
of
the
the
big
things
about
it
was
that
we
we
did
hear
quite
clearly
that
that
this
had
to
be
a
standalone
bill.
AO
So
I
hope
that
the
opposition
understands
it
and
the
people
that
were
that
attended.
The
meetings
and
put
submissions
forward
to
the
committee
understand
that
we're
not
ignoring
all
the
other
things
that
came
up
there,
but
the
the
importance
of
making
sure
that
this
was
a
government
bill,
not
a
private
member's
Bill,
and
it
was
a
standalone
bill,
so
it
didn't
get
lost
in
the
shuffle
of
a
whole
bunch
of
things.
So
that
was
the
important
things,
and
but
with
that
you
know
just
some
brief
comments.
AO
A
real
property
report
is
something
that,
if
you're,
if
you've,
bought
a
bought
or
sold
a
piece
of
property
lately,
that's
that's
part
of
the
the
process
is,
is
getting
a
real
property
report
and
sometimes
it
can
be
a
fence.
That's
been
there
for
40
years
that
when
they
do
the
survey
it's
like.
Oh,
this
fence
is
out
of
place
by
you
know.
Even
if
it's
a
foot
or
two
feet,
150
foot
lot
in
Edmonton,
some
Lots
can
be
up
to
100
a
square
foot.
AO
M
Thank
you,
butch
very
much
Madam
speaker
I
would
like
to
move
second
reading
of
Bill
4
the
Alberta
Healthcare
Insurance
Amendment
act.
2022.
Madam,
speaker
I,
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
discuss
this
bill.
There
are
approximately
11
000
physicians
in
Alberta,
who
work
hard
each
and
every
day
to
improve
the
lives
of
albertans.
Their
tireless
work
and
selfless
commitment
is
truly
appreciated.
Now,
since
becoming
minister
of
Health,
a
top
priority
for
me
has
been
to
focus
on
a
collaborative
relationship
with
Physicians.
M
Looking
at
partnership
and
innovation,
I've
listened
to
Physicians
acknowledged
the
challenges
the
health
system
is
facing
and
have
committed
to
doing
something
about
those
challenges.
I
was
honored
to
be
at
the
negotiating
table
with
the
Alberta
Medical
Association,
and
I'm
very
pleased
that
70
percent
of
voting
Physicians
supported
the
new
agreement
back
in
September
Madam
speaker,
part
of
the
new
agreement,
outlines
the
government's
commitment
to
repeal
section
40.2
of
the
Alberta
Health
Care
insurance
act.
M
This
legislation
is
no
longer
required,
given
the
terms
of
the
new
agreement
with
the
AMA
and
repealing
this
Clause
follows
through
on
our
promise
to
the
AMA
and
to
Physicians
and
is
a
further
step
forward
in
building
our
relationship.
Now,
government's
new
agreement
with
the
AMA
will
help
stabilize
our
health
care,
System
Target
the
areas
of
concern
and
support.
Alberta's
Health
Care
needs
with
its
significant
Investments.
M
This
agreement
provides
a
path
forward
to
address
the
current
challenges
and
issues
brought
forward
by
physicians
during
our
conversations
and
I
want
to
take
a
few
moments
to
go
over
some
of
the
highlights
of
this
very
important
agreement.
Now
the
agreement
covers
four
fiscal
years.
April
1st
2022
to
March
31st
2026
Alberta
Physicians,
will
continue
to
be
among
the
highest
compensated
in
Canada,
with
an
average
increase
of
four
percent
over
the
four-year
term.
M
Lump
sum
increases
will
be
given
to
Primary
Care
networks
of
20
million
dollars
in
each
of
2022-2023
and
2023-2024,
and
this
is
to
provide
additional
support
for
Primary
Care,
while
modernizing
Alberta's
Primary
Care
Health
System
work
takes
place
with
additional
targeted
spending,
including
new
supports
for
Rural
physician
recruitment.
Spending
on
Family
Medicine
overall
will
increase
by
approximately
8
percent
over
three
years
about
750
million
dollars
in
new
funding
over
four
years
and
be
is
being
invested
to
stabilize
the
Health
Care
System,
including
260
million
dollars
in
targeted
funding.
M
There
will
also
be
a
one
percent
rate
increases
for
physicians
in
each
of
the
next
three
years
and
a
one
percent
recognition
lump
sum
payment
for
the
exceptional
contribution
Physicians
have
made
during
the
pandemic.
Now
this
lump
sum
payment
is
worth
approximately
45
million
dollars
or
roughly
4
000
per
physician.
It
will
go
to
the
AMA
by
the
end
of
the
year
for
distribution
to
their
members.
M
We
are
also
working
with
the
AMA
to
implement
the
one
percent
rate
increase
for
2022-23.
This
increase
applies
to
fee
for
service
and
alternative
relationship
plan
rates,
providing
an
additional
46
million
to
Physicians,
as
outlined
in
the
new
agreement.
The
rate
increase
is
heavily
weighted
to
Specialties
facing
the
greatest
pressure,
such
as
Family
Medicine.
M
We
are
working
with
the
AMA
to
distribute
these
increases
across
and
within
Specialties.
They
again
there
will
be
effective,
April
1st
2022
retroactively
and
are
expected
to
be
finalized
and
be
able
to
be
paid
out
by
March
31st
2023..
Now
the
first
three
years
of
the
agreement
provide
rate
stability
for
with
no
Market
Corrections
for
above
or
below
Market
rates
year.
Four
will
see
implementation
of
results
from
a
comprehensive
market
rate
review
based
on
comparisons
with
Ontario
West
jurisdictions.
There
will
also
be
a
global
rate
adjustment
to
reflect
General
economic
and
fiscal
conditions.
M
At
that
time
there
is
a
potential
for
binding
arbitration
for,
for
both
the
market
rate
review
and
the
global
rate
adjustment.
Should
the
parties
not
be
able
to
agree
on
what's
appropriate?
Additionally,
there
will
be
gain
sharing
in
years
three
or
four,
where
the
AMA
can
receive
50
of
any
savings
achieved
by
keeping
cost
growth
below
population
and
complexity.
M
Madam
speaker
I'm,
proud
to
say
that
our
partnership
even
goes
beyond
this
new
agreement.
We
are
working
collaboratively
with
Physicians
on
modernizing
Alberta's
Primary
Health
Care
System
initiative,
also
known
as
Maps,
where
Alberta's
Primary,
Healthcare
leaders
and
National
and
Global
experts
are
being
brought
together
to
identify
immediate
and
long-term
improvements
to
strengthen
Alberta's
Primary
Care
System
Maps
is
about
building
on
the
strong
Primary
Health
Care
Foundation
that
exists
in
Alberta
to
create
a
system
where
everyone
has
access
to
a
family,
physician
or
primary
health
care
provider,
no
matter
where
they
live
in
the
province.
M
Modernizing
Primary
Healthcare
will
also
help
to
ease
pressures
on
our
hospitals,
working
closely
with
the
Alberta
Medical
Association
Primary
Care
networks
and
other
Primary
Care
leaders
across
the
province.
Three
advisory
panels
are
addressing
major
issues,
identifying
key
areas
for
improvement
and
recommending
both
new
opportunities
and
ways
to
ramp
up
existing
strengths
in
our
Primary
Health
Care
System
Madam
speaker.
We
are
also
working
with
Physicians
as
we
implement
the
AHS
reform
plan.
M
This
work
includes
improving
EMS
response
times,
decreasing
ER
wait
times
and
wait
times
for
surgeries
and
developing
long-term
reforms
through
consultations
with
Frontline
workers,
pushing
down
decision
making
within
AHS
decision
making
will
be
restored
to
the
local
level
and
local
health
professionals.
Regional
Innovation
will
be
sent
incentivized
to
provide
more
medical
services
and
more
Health
Care
Professionals
will
be
attracted
to
Alberta.
M
As
we
look
to
the
Future
Madam
speaker,
Alberta's
government
is
committed
to
working
with
Physicians
as
partners
and
improving
our
health
care.
System
Physicians
have
faced
significant
difficulties
in
the
past
few
years,
so
today,
I
especially
want
them
to
know
that
Alberta's
government
is
deeply
appreciative
of
their
critical
role.
M
Their
voices
and
leadership
are
crucial
to
our
Health
Care
system
and
we
look
forward
to
standing
side
by
side
with
physicians
in
the
weeks
months
and
years
ahead
in
order
to
provide
the
health
care
services
that
albertans
deserve
and
albertans
need,
so
that
Madam
speaker,
I,
move
second
reading
of
Bill
4,
then
I
ask
all
members
of
this
chamber
to
support
this
Bill.
Thank
you.
V
V
V
V
To
cut
costs
and
save
dollars
in
the
Health
Care
system,
that
included
things
like
making
changes
to
the
complex
care
codes
that
allowed
doctors
to
spend
more
time
with
their
patients,
ending
the
practice
of
good
faith
billing,
which
allows
Physicians
to
be
able
to
bill
for
looking
after
a
patient.
Even
if
that
patient
does
not
have
their
Alberta
Health
Care
insurance
card
with
them
or
haven't
have
their
number.
V
V
Doctors
reached
out
to
me
they
expressed
a
lot
of
concerns,
particularly
family
doctors,
Madam
speaker
about
the
impacts.
This
would
have
on
their
ability
to
continue
to
provide
care,
and
particularly
rural
Physicians
Madam
speakers
had
deep
concerns
with
some
of
the
other
things.
This
government
was
forced
trying
to
force
through
around
charging
them
for
facility
fees
and
other
things
that
would
make
it
harder
for
them
to
be
able
to
practice
in
the
community
and
in
hospital.
But
these
were
things.
V
The
government
insisted
were
so
essential
that
they
had
to
pass
legislation
awarding
themselves
the
power
to
tear
up
the
master
agreement
and
went
ahead
and
did
so
in
February
of
2020
21
2020.
Pardon
me
I
apologize
I've
been
speaking
of
2020
fall
of
2020
with
Bill
21.
It
was
about
fall
of
2019.
February
of
2020.
They
tore
up
the
master
agreement,
I
apologize,
Madam
speaker
this
was
a
long
War.
V
There
was
a
government
website
under
Alberta
Health,
making
these
contentions
many
tweets
from
the
then
minister
of
Health,
who
now
serves
as
the
Minister
of
Justice
this
as
we
find
ourselves
going
into
a
global
pandemic,
and
as
we
went
into
that
pandemic,
the
minister
talked
about
how
happy
he
is
about
supporting
primary
care
and
the
steps
he's
taking.
Well,
you
know
going
into
that
pandemic.
V
Family
doctors
in
Alberta
were
begging
this
government
to
take
action
on
providing
them
with
a
code
to
be
able
to
provide
virtual
care
because
we
were
locking
down
and
individuals
were
not
able
to
go
and
see
their
family
doctor
in
person,
because
we
were
at
the
first
wave.
We
did
not
know
what
the
parameters
were.
V
That
was
a
situation,
so
this
government
said
sure
no
problem.
We
will
give
you
twenty
dollars
for
a
visit
which
is
half
approximately
Madam
speaker
of
what
doctors
normally
earned
in
clinic
other
provinces
were
stepping
up
and
providing
fully
funded
virtual
codes.
This
government
told
doctors
you
can
have
half
of
what
you
normally
make
they
let
that
sit
for
weeks
at
the
same
time
as
they
had
just
signed,
an
agreement
with
Telus
for
their
Babylon
phone
service
for
people
to
be
paid.
V
Full
doctors
on
Babylon
were
paid,
the
full
amount,
thirty
seven
dollars
for
a
visit,
Madam
speaker.
While
this
government
was
grinding,
Alberta
family
doctors
down
at
half
that
rate
for
the
same
provision,
the
actual
doctors
of
the
patients
who
knew
their
histories
as
opposed
to
an
anonymous
walk-in
doctor
through
an
app.
V
V
And
you
know
what
a
number
of
those
Physicians
did
end
up.
Picking
up
and
leaving
Madam
speaker,
we
lost
a
number
of
family
doctors
across
the
province,
as
this
government
continued
with
its
war
on
Physicians.
They
threatened
the
funding
for
Physicians
benefits
and
support
programs,
Madam
speaker
they
see
and
troll
of
them
from
the
Alberta
Medical
Association
and
then
threaten
the
continuance
of
funding.
These
are
things
for
things
like
mental
health
supports
for
physicians.
In
the
midst
of
a
pandemic,
Madam
speaker,
that
is
the
position
this
government
took
and
pushed
for
months.
V
Began
to
say
well
forget
it
I
am
not
going
to
work
under
these
conditions.
The
minister
of
Health,
now
the
Minister
of
Justice,
went
to
the
College
of
Physicians
and
surgeons
of
Alberta
to
demand
that
they
changed
their
rules
to
make
it
harder
for
Physicians
to
be
able
to
leave
an
abusive
relationship.
V
This
government
continued
up
until
this
year
to
put
pressure
on
Alberta
Health
Services
to
force
contract
changes
on
hospitals
that,
at
more
than
one
occasion,
to
my
understanding,
led
to
near-job
action.
That
would
have
impacted
the
ability
for
albertans
to
access
surgeries
and
required
the
direct
intervention
of
this
Ministry
of
Health
to
prevent.
V
Hospitals,
like
the
Red
Deer
Regional
Hospital,
are
still
not
able
to
maintain
that
regain
the
surgical
capacity
they
had
before
the
pandemic.
Due
to
a
shortage
of
anesthesiologists.
You
know
in
March,
2021
I
spoke
with
physicians
at
the
Red
Deer
Regional
hospital.
They
told
me
they'd
lost
about
six
anesthesiologists
in
the
previous
three
months.
V
Spoke
with
another
anesthesiologist
here
at
Edmonton,
just
this
past
June.
He
noted
that
we
currently
have
about
in
his
estimation
about
350
FTE
anesthesiologists,
so
about
450
actual
maybe,
but
some
of
those
are
part-time.
He
said
that's
about
15
percent
short
of
what
we
need
to
get
back
to
pre-coveted
capacity.
V
V
To
be
clear,
the
minister
talked
about
how
happy
he
was
about
the
level
of
support
he
got
for
this
agreement.
Let's
not
forget
the
agreement
that
was
brought
forward
by
the
previous
Minister
and
was
soundly
rejected
by
physicians,
because
they
did
not
trust
this
government,
and
indeed
this
Minister
was
left
with
that
mess
to
have
to
clean
up
and
I
will
give
him
credit
for
getting
to
that
70
support
of
the
Physicians
that
signed,
and
certainly
I,
am
happy
for
Physicians
that
they
are
in
a
better
position
that
lump
sum
payment
for
family
doctors.
V
That
is
certainly
welcome,
Madam
speaker,
but
it
does
not
make
up
for
this
government's
grinding
them
down
throughout
the
midst
of
a
pandemic,
refusing
to
provide
them
with
the
proper
virtual
code,
which
again
was
another
step
that
I
will
say.
This
Minister
did
move
forward
on
and
did
put
through
in
January
1st
of
this
year.
But
again
he
was
undoing
the
damage
that
his
own
government
had
done.
V
So
now
we
know
we
have
tens
of
thousands,
if
not
hundreds
of
thousands
of
albertans
who
are
struggling
to
access
a
family
doctor,
the
minister
sproes
and
spoke
about
bringing
family
doctors
into
Lethbridge.
Today,
that's
wonderful
I,
look
forward
to
seeing
those
doctors
actually
get
to
get
out
and
working
in
the
community,
but
it
would
have
been
far
better
if
they'd
never
been
driven
out
in
the
first
place.
V
V
V
And
unfortunately,
that
leaves
us
in
a
position
then,
where
those
emergency
rooms
are
overcrowded,
they
are
overflowing
and
we
do
not
have
the
capacity
because,
of
course,
it's
government
and
through
its
policies
during
covid-19,
exhausted
the
health
care
Workforce,
not
just
doctors,
nurses
and
many
others
throughout
the
system,
and
we
have
a
critical
Staffing
shortage
in
pretty
much
every
area.
Now
the
minister
again
I'm
sure,
if
he
were
to
rise
now,
would
point
out
that
this
is
the
case
in
every
jurisdiction
across
Canada.
V
There
are
critical
Staffing
shortages,
but
that
does
not
excuse
the
fact
Madam
speaker
that
at
every
step
this
government
made
it
worse,
not
that
other
jurisdictions
are
also
struggling
to
find.
Doctors
does
not
give
this
government
a
good
reason
to
go
on
a
war
against
them
and
take
all
of
the
steps
I
have
outlined
today
that
aggressive
posturing
that
attempt
at
what
could
be
colloquial
called
union
busting,
although
of
course
the
operative
Medical
Association
is
not
actually
a
union,
though
certainly
the
Government
tried
to
paint
them
that
way.
V
He
is
personable,
he
is
genuine,
but
he
was
part
of
the
government
that
voted
at
every
single
step.
To
take
each
of
these
steps
that
occurred,
he
continues
to
sit
directly
beside
the
minister,
who
undertook
so
many
of
these
detrimental
actions
and
I've
never
heard
that
minister
offer
any
apology
or
acknowledgment
of
any
of
the
actions
that
I've
listed
today,
and
they
are
not
hyperbole,
Madam
speaker.
They
are
not
political
drama,
they
are
not
theater,
they
are
fact-
and
you
can
ask
any
physician
in
the
province
of
Alberta,
about
that.
V
V
It
would
have
been
an
even
better
idea
to
have
done
that
before
they
chose
to
tear
up
the
agreement
with
physicians
in
order
to
force
through
changes,
and
you
know
what
Madam
speaker
every
one
of
those
changes.
I
noted,
except
for
one
all
of
those
things
that
they
declared
were
absolutely
essential
that
they
had
to
tear
up
that
agreement.
The
new
agreement
with
Physicians
walks
back
every
single
one
except
they're,
still
charging
seniors
for
drivers.
Medicals
yeah
they're
still
happy
to
sort
of
force
seniors
to
pay.
For
that.
V
V
So
do
will
our
support
bill
for
absolutely
I
will
support
Bill
4,
because
this
is
the
right
thing
to
do.
It
would
have
been
far
better
if
the
government
had
never
done
it
in
the
first
place,
so
I
will
support
undoing
what
is
frankly,
an
embarrassing
and
ghastly
mistake
on
the
behalf
of
this
government,
one
that
has
done
incredible
damage
to
our
Public
Health
Care
System,
into
the
ability
of
real
burdens
to
access
care.
V
I
owe
that
much
I
think
to
all
of
the
albertans
who
have
been
impacted
and
certainly
to
all
of
the
many
Physicians
I
spoke
with
over
the
last
three
years,
who
suffered
and
I
do
mean
that
literally
suffered
under
this
government
under
the
most
difficult
of
circumstances
and
people
that
we
essentially
need.
We
are
absolutely
essential
to
getting
us
out
of
the
hole
that
we
are
now
in
with
our
health
care
System.
V
V
R
Z
Z
Madam
speaker.
We
saw
them
exercise,
maybe
I'll
start
most
recently
and
then
work
backwards,
most
recently,
Madam
speaker.
We
know
that
there
is
now
a
the
current
Premier
was
elected
by
only
about
one
percent
of
albertans.
99
did
not
vote
for
this
Premier
to
be
in
our
current
role
and
and
in
the
six
years
leading
up
to
that
time.
Z
There
are
many
years
where
many
albertans
might
not
need
to
see
a
primary
care
physician
more
than
once
or
twice
in
that
year,
and
then
there
are
other
times
in
your
life
where
you
would
need
significantly
more
care
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
as
Canadians,
have
pulled
our
resources
and
created
Medicare
in
its
current
form.
To
ensure
that
you
know
it's
not
your
fault.
When
you
have
a
Health
crisis,
we've
got
each
other's
backs.
Z
The
current
Premier
definitely
has
had
a
very
different
remarks
on
that
regard,
including
significant
remarks
related
to
personal
responsibility
and
as
they
relate
to
even
to
go,
as
far
as
to
criticize
cancer
patients
for
resulting
at
what
I
will
paraphrase,
but
those
who
end
up
with
stage
four
cancer
could
have
done
things
in
stage
one
two
or
three
to
prevent.
That
generally
was
the
statement.
AP
Z
So
it's
very
concerning
when
we
see
this
is
sort
of
the
background
narrative
that's
being
at
play
in
and
around
the
current
premiere.
So
this
bill,
as
was
stated
that
I
appreciate
that
the
health
Minister
talked
a
great
deal
about
the
actual
amending
agreement.
But
this
bill
essentially,
is
just
to
strike
sections
that
the
government
chose
to
put
in
unilaterally
without
actually
engaging
any
consultation
or
getting
any
support
from
the
the
health
care
providers
that
we
rely
on
to
ensure
that
we
all
have
one
of
the
most
prized
Canadian
Services.
Z
When
you
interview
people
globally
about
the
differences
between
Canada
United
States.
One
of
the
main
things
that
we
talk
about
as
Canadians
and
that
others
know
about
us
as
Canadians
is
that
we
have
Universal
Public
Health
Care
a
very
different
model
than
what
many
conservative
leaders
and
conservative
Health
ministers
in
this
province
have
tried
to
push
through
at
various
times.
And
so
what
we
had
in
2020
was
the
current
government
under
slightly
different
formation
of
the
front,
but
not
significantly
different,
to
be
very
Frank.
I.
Z
Think
many
were
surprised
that
when
the
current
Premier
took
her
role,
that
there
weren't
more
signals
of
change
among
the
the
folks
who
were
making
leadership
decisions,
in
fact,
ministers
and
and
very
key
roles,
Education
Health
Justice
staying
in
exactly
the
same
portfolios,
I
think
many
people
who
voted
for
change.
The
one
percent
who
did
actually
vote
for
the
premier
were
expecting
far
greater
signals
of
change
and
reflection
and
and
that
the
government
was
going
to
set
a
different
course,
but
no
no,
they
haven't.
Z
What
we
do
have
is
a
bill
and
I
think
most
albertans.
If
they
heard
the
legislature
is
debating
a
health
bill,
would
think.
Oh,
thank
goodness
we're
going
to
be
doing
something
about
emerge.
Wait
times
we're
going
to
do
something
about
EMS
we're
going
to
do
something
about
women's
health
and
the
lack
of
reproductive
Support
Services
throughout
our
Province,
including
Obstetrics
and
Gynecology.
I.
Think
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
albertans
would
be
hoping
that
we're
debating
today
and
I'd
be
happy
to
welcome
the
interjection.
AP
K
You
know
that
this
opportunity,
this
government
had
an
opportunity
to
really
put
forward
some
substantial
legislation
that
could
address,
as
she
noted
the
crisis
and
obstetrics
we
heard
from
the
member
from
Lockwood
West
this
morning,
just
how
bad
it
is.
I've
spoken
about
it
multiple
times,
my
colleague
from
Edmonton,
City,
Center
and
I
have
sent
out
multiple
letters
to
this
health
Minister,
urging
him
to
take
action
on
the
crisis,
in
particular
with
women's
and
reproductive
health,
and
so
you
know
we
saw
this
as
well.
K
I'm
getting
Deja
Vu
from
you
know,
for
instance,
I
believe
was
Bill
18
the
long-term
care
act,
which
again
we
thought.
Okay,
you
know
what
this
garment
is.
Finally,
you
know
taking
steps
to
address
the
crisis
on
long-term
care.
No
I
was
just
a
few
feel
recall
all
that
bill.
It
was
a
few
administrative
sort
of
changes
and
and
very
little
substance.
So
I'm
hopeful,
like
the
the
member
mentioned
earlier,
that
the
minister
will
speak
up
as
well
about
some
of
these
issues.
AA
Z
Framed
it
by
saying
it
was
rude,
but
it
is
the
rules
that
we
have
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
elaborate
slightly
on
this,
because
yesterday
we
had
an
opportunity
to
consider
Health
legislation
that
could
have
probably
even
been
considered
as
a
replacement
bill
for
the
the
health
Bill
we're
considering
here
today.
The
Alberta
Health
Care
insurance
Amendment
act
2020,
but
that
bill
was
brought
forward
as
a
private
member's
Bill
and
it
would
have
addressed
a
number
of
areas,
including
Primary
Care,
EMS
surgeries,
reliable,
timely
access.
Z
These
are
the
things
that
most
albertans
are
talking
to
us
about
when
they
say,
Healthcare
is
one
of
their
number
one
issues
and
I'm
sure
they're
talking
to
members
on
the
other
side
of
the
house
as
well.
We
know
that
reliably
poll
after
poll
after
poll
when
people
are
asked
to
rank
the
the
number
one
issue
that
they
have
in
the
top
three
is
Healthcare.
Z
It's
used
usually
number
one
or
number
two,
and
it
has
been
under
the
UCP
leadership
and
simultaneously
As
We
are
continuing
to
live
through
the
impacts
of
covid-19
now
also
RSV
and
influenza.
I
was
relieved
today
when,
in
question
period,
the
minister
of
Health
did
talk
about
the
benefits
of
getting
a
flu
vaccine
I've
had
mine
I.
Z
Imagine
he's
had
his
and
and
I
hope
many
others
of
this
house
have
as
well,
but
our
numbers
for
immunization
for
influenza
this
year
in
the
province
of
Alberta,
are
are
not
anywhere
near
where
they
need
them
to
be,
and
consequential
to
that
are
the
impacts
on
on
our
Health
Care
system
and
on
individual
families.
I
know
I've
been
watching
reports
of
children
in
other
parts
of
the
country,
even
some
so
horrific
as
a
child
dying
in
British
Columbia
influenza.
Z
Not
that
long
ago,
I
think
it
might
have
even
been
the
second
child
in
this
flu
season.
I
don't
want
us
to
have
to
deal
with
those
types
of
consequences
here
and
I
think
that
we
could
be
doing
far
more
to
speak
to
the
benefits
of
using
evidence-based
science-driven
medical
decision
making,
including
promoting
through
public
awareness
campaigns.
The
benefits
of
getting
a
flu
vaccine
I
was
relieved
pleasantly
on
the
first
day
of
the
Fall
sitting,
or
maybe
it
was
even
the
throne
Speech
day
a
push.
Z
Notification
came
through
to
my
phone,
because
I've
signed
up
for
a
bunch
of
Health
notifications
to
to
say,
on
behalf
of
the
government
of
Alberta
we're
encouraging
everyone
to
get
the
flu
vaccine.
It's
safe.
It's
scientific!
We
haven't
heard
I'm
grateful
that
we've
heard
it
from
the
health
Minister
I'm
grateful
that
I
got
a
notification
from
the
CPE
informing
me
of
that
I
wish.
We
would
see
that
same
kind
of
leadership
from
the
the
chief
politician.
Z
Currently,
the
premier
for
the
province
of
Alberta
I
think
it
would
go
a
long
way
to
increasing
awareness
and
reducing
some
of
the
most
severe
outcomes
that
we're
seeing
as
they
relate
to
Children's
Health.
But
what
we've
seen
instead
is
silence
on
these
issues
and
and
I
also
want
to
be
very
clear
that
when
I
was
a
health
Minister
I
know
some
will
try
to
fear
Monger.
When
I
was
a
health
Minister,
we
made
it
really
clear
that
we
weren't
going
to
require
mandatory
vaccines
for
children
to
attend
school.
Z
I
do
have
to
say
that
undoing
some
of
the
harm
that
was
done
not
that
long
ago,
by
the
same
government,
that's
still
in
place.
I
guess
that's
better
than
some
health
bills
that
we've
seen
them
bring
forward
to
this
place
before,
but
this
simply
is
an
act
to
undo
some
of
the
harm
that
they
just
caused
two
years
ago.
Z
That
is
what
the
title
should
probably
be.
Maybe
we
can
work
on
an
amendment
to
that
regard
to
my
whip,
but
it
it
definitely
isn't
something
that
is
going
to
resolve
the
issues
that
we're
facing
currently
in
Primary
Care,
with
EMS,
with
surgeries
with
timely
access.
These
are
areas
that
the
government
should
be
focused
on
that
we,
as
members
of
this
assembly,
I,
would
hope
are
focused
on
and
instead,
what
we
are
doing
is
considering
repealing
some
of
the
harm
that
the
government
just
imposed.
Z
It
definitely
is
not
a
step
backwards
and
therefore
I'm
inclined
to
support
it.
If
there's
things
that
I,
don't
think
are
harmful,
typically,
I
want
to
be
a
team
player
and
get
on
side
and
and
try
to
speak
and
vote
and
support.
But
this
certainly
isn't
you
know
a
flagship
piece.
Flagship
piece
of
legislation
under
you
know
a
new
premier.
The
fourth
priority
you
would
think
would
be
something
that
would
address
the
the
significant
issues
that
albertans
are
seeing.
They're
facing
and
certainly
Health
Care
is
one.
Z
K
Just
talking
about
what
absolute
chaos
it
is
in
the
in
the
Pediatrics
in
the
Peds
unit-
and
you
know,
I
just
I
do
I
would
love,
and
perhaps
even
the
premier
will
speak
to
speak
to
some
of
some
of
the
priorities,
because
you
know
I
know
I
know
she
talked
about
the
you
know
the
importance
of
Children's
Health
this
morning.
Yet
we're
not
seeing
it
in
in
in
the
legislation
that
we're
seeing
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
like
I,
said
administrative
pieces
and
oh.
Z
Thank
you
very
much
Madam
speaker,
and
what
this
morning's
announcement
did
highlight,
though,
is
the
the
fact
that-
and
we
saw
that
earlier
in
the
pandemic
as
well,
when
we
have
one
Collective
purchasing
power
when
we
have
one
Health
Authority,
that
is
the
largest
health
authority
of
any
jurisdiction
anywhere
in
Canada.
We
have
more
significant
purchasing
power.
Z
So
I
want
to
recognize
that
the
premier
did
acknowledge
today
that
AHS
procurement
team
led
the
charge
to
make
sure
that
we
could
acquire
some
additional
capacity
in
terms
of
medications
that
are
that
are
desperately
needed
right
now.
So
hats
off
to
that
procurement
team
for
HS,
which
has
been
recognized
as
being
a
global
leader
over
and
over
and
over
again,
they
did
it
earlier
in
the
pandemic
when
it
came
to
acquiring
masks
and
other
PPE
to
support
health
care
workers
and
and
other
citizens.
Z
V
Wondering,
of
course,
we
know
the
member
for
evidence
of
Lenoir
previously
served
as
the
minister
for
health,
and
she
was
just
noting
the
excellent
work
that's
been
done
by
AHS
on
this
procurement
and
certainly
was
done
in
many
respects
during
the
pandemic.
But
we
know
that
certainly
AHS
has
been
significantly
attacked
by
this.
V
Premium
has
topped
down
about
many
of
the
folks
that
do
the
very
work
that
allowed
her
to
make
that
announcement
today,
much
in
the
same
way
as
we
saw,
this
government
talk
down,
Physicians
and
others,
and
I
was
just
wondering
for
this
member
as
she
has
served
as
Ministry
of
Health.
What
is
her
reflection
on
how
the
behavior
of
government
can
affect
the
morale
and
the
ability
of
these
folks
to
be
able
to
do
this
important
work
on
our
behalf.
Z
And
it's
not
often
that
you
know
I'll
Stand
in
this
place
and
say
you
know
those
really
amazing.
Super
conservative
people
on
that
board
deserve
to
to
be
there.
But
what
I
am
going
to
say
is
that
by
firing
a
board
and
and
I
believe
that
when
we
have
many
Minds
working
together,
we
can
make
better
Collective
decisions
than
when
we
try
to
put
one
person
in
charge
of
something,
and
this
certainly
does
relate
to
the
Alberta
Health
Care
insurance
Amendment
act,
because
those
insured
services
that
are
operating
within
within
AHS.
Z
The
vast
majority
of
billing
would
be
direct
to
Alberta
Health
those
services
within
AHS
to
say:
okay,
we're
going
to
get
rid
of
a
board
of
11
people
working
collectively
we're
going
to
replace
them
with
one
person
who
thinks
that
he
knows
best
or
that
the
premier
thinks
that
that
one
person
knows
best.
We
saw
what
happened
when
the
most
recent
Premier
decided
to
do
that
with
Chris
Champion.
Z
When
it
came
to
curriculum,
we
have
had
a
hugely
discredited
curriculum
that
clearly
was
driven
ideologically,
especially
as
it
relates
to
the
social
studies
area,
driven
by
one
person
who
thought
that
he
knew
best
that
there
was
going
to
be.
You
know
this
downloading
of
European
and
American
knowledge
that
wasn't
evidence-based,
that
wasn't
collaborative
that
didn't,
engage
with
teachers
and
we
were
going
to
bring
in
an
expert
somebody
who
thought
he
was
an
expert
that
the
premier
thought
was
an
expert
to
make
these
decisions.
Z
That
would
impact
everybody
and
they
certainly
have
impacted
everybody
and
we're
seeing
that
again.
Now,
with
Health
Care,
we've
decided
that
instead
of
having
a
collective
team
of
people
who
are
even,
for
example,
trained
in
public
health
there
to
give
advice,
and-
and
certainly
we
can
ask
many
questions
about
the
advice
and
if
it
was
proper
but
to
instead
say
we're
going
to
bring
in
a
volunteer
and
I
I've
worked
with
Dr
Jaffe
I.
Think
Dr
Jaffe
brings
a
lot
to
the
table,
he's
not
an
expert
in
public
health.
Z
That's
not
his
area
of
specialization.
It
would
be
like
putting
somebody
in
charge
of
Cardiac
Care,
who
was
a
oncologist
and
asking
them
to
volunteer
and
do
it
off
the
side
of
their
desk
when
they
already
have
more
than
a
full-time
job
to
keep
them
busy.
I
will
tell
you
Dr
joffe's.
Current
job
is
more
than
a
full-time
job
and
there
used
to
be
three
a
chief
medical
officer
of
health
and
two
deputies.
That
collectively
would
advise
Public
Health
matters
and,
as
we
understand,
those
positions
are
not
filled.
Z
There
is
a
volunteer
assignment
given
to
Dr
Jaffe
I
hope
that
the
minister
will
make
those
Public
Health
officials
available.
If
there
are
any
working
in
that
area,
but
it
is
so
important
not
just
because
of
coven,
not
19,
not
just
because
of
RSVP
RSV,
not
just
because
of
influenza,
but
because
other
disasters
happen
that
require
Public
Health
expertise
as
well.
Z
Like
the
four
McMurray
wildfires
Public
Health
played
a
key
role
in
ensuring
the
evacuation
happened,
but
also
the
safe
return,
because
many
of
the
chemicals
that
were
used
to
hamper
the
fire
to
put
the
fire
out
had
could
have
had
negative
Health
consequences.
If
people
went
back
before
that
was
remediated,
so
Public
Health
had
to
be
advising
government
about
re-entry
plans
to
ensure
that
the
residents
of
Fort
McMurray
didn't
get
other
negative
Health
consequences,
including
various
types
of
cancer.
I
You,
madam
speaker,
it's
my
pleasure
to
rise
and
speak
to
Bill
4
Alberta
Health,
Care
insurance,
Amendment
Act,
just
you
know,
thinking
about
going
back
to
2019
when
we
were
debating
this
bill.
This
this
Omnibus,
Bill,
actually
I.
Think
it's
really
important
at
the
time
to
to
think
about
all
of
the
things
that
were
that
were
thrown
into
this
bill.
There
were
all
kinds
of
things
that
were
jammed
into
this
bill,
not
long
after
the
election
of
the
UCP
they
formed
government
and
I
can
remember
at
the
time
there
was
a
lot.
I
We
spent
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
that
this
piece
of
legislation-
Bill
21
at
the
time
and
and
trying
our
best
to
warn
the
government
of
the
day.
What
some
of
their
decisions
would
do.
I
can
remember
many
of
my
colleagues
talking
about
the
dangers
that
like
lay
ahead,
and
none
of
us
could
predict
that
we
would
have
experienced
the
kind
of
pandemic
that
we
did.
We
just
knew
that
this
is
not
how
you
treat
a
group
of
people,
particularly
Physicians.
I
I
This
was
the
same
piece
of
legislation
that
de-indexed
benefits
for
seniors,
for
low-income
albertans
and
for
disabled
child
burdens
and
again,
at
the
same
time,
it
was
jammed
into
this
Omnibus
Bill
and
we
tried
our
best
to
warn
of
the
danger
that
would
come
or
the
harm
that
would
be
caused
once
again,
just
the
the
arrogance
from
the
government
at
the
time
saying.
No,
no,
we
know
we
know
best
it'll,
be
fine
they're
not
going
to
have
a
problem
with
it.
K
Well,
thank
you
to
the
member
from
St
Albert,
and
you
know
you
just
started
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
you
know,
sort
of
our
perspective
and
we've.
We've
talked
a
lot
about
what
we've
heard
from
our
constituents
when
it's
come
when
it
comes
to
protecting
public
health-
and
you
know,
I
know
that
you
knock
on
a
lot
of
doors
in
your
riding.
You
do
a
lot
of
door
knocking
in
Warrenville,
Saint,
Albert
and
I.
Appreciate
that
I'm
curious.
K
Are
you
hearing
Health
Care
as
as
one
of
the
top
concerns
at
the
doors
and,
and
if
so
you
know
is
it?
Is
it?
Is
it
healthcare
workers?
Is
it
the
general
degradation
of
the
Health
Care
System
I'll,
be
honest,
I've
two
knocked
on
many
many
doors
and
the
issues
I
hear
about
the
Health
Care
system
are:
are
many
but
I'm
not
hearing
much
about
what
Bill
4
addresses,
which
is
a
concern
to
me.
I
Thank
you
for
that.
Yes,
I,
do.
We
do
knock
on
a
lot
of
doors,
and
you
know
we
we
run
into
a
lot
of
health
care
workers
in
St,
Albert,
I'm
thinking
you
know.
Recently
it's
been
fairly
cold,
the
weather
hasn't
been
lovely,
and
so
the
lovely
constituents
of
St
Albert
will
regularly
invite
us
in
if
we're
like,
really
shivering
quite
a
bit
and
then.
K
I
Often
will
have
time
for
a
deeper
conversation
and
sort
of
I
would
say
the
theme
primarily
nurses
that
I've
had
a
chance
to
communicate
with,
but
I
think
about
the
one
physician
that
I
did
speak
to
what
sticks
in
my
mind,
and
this
goes
back
in
a
few
weeks-
some
some
a
few
months.
The
biggest
thing
that
I
heard
from
the
constituents
in
Saint
Albert
was
just
the
lack
of
trust.
A
I
Certainly,
they
felt
that
that
there
had
been
enough.
There
has
been
enough
pushback
on
a
few
issues,
whether
it's
from
the
Physicians
themselves,
from
their
patients
just
from
albertans
in
general
that
you
know
the
UCP
has
backtracked
a
little
bit
on
a
few
things
throughout
covid
and
and
now.
Obviously,
as
we
get
closer
to
an
election
they're
trying
to
clean
up
a
few
messes,
oh
go
ahead.
Z
We
used
to
say
that,
and
it
used
to
be
true,
that
we
had
way
more
primary
care
physicians
per
capita
than
any
other
province
in
the
country,
but
I
fear
that
we've
Fallen
significantly
off
that
track
and
and
also
in
the
larger
Urban
centers.
It
was
Edmonton
and
Calgary
that
there
were
the
most.
But
now
we
know
that
regularly
people
contact
our
offices
saying
that
they
can't
get
a
primary
care
provider
even
in
Edmonton
and
Calgary.
A
I
Thank
you.
So,
just
like
the
member
just
said
you
know,
we,
our
office
gets
calls
actually
primarily
emails
about
this,
but
we
get
email.
Talking
about
I
can't
find
a
doctor
whether
it's
my
doctor
has
retired.
My
doctor
has
left
people
just
can't
find
another
physician,
so
I
have
heard
of
some
residents
of
Saint
Albert.
You
know
have
had
to
go,
sadly,
and
because
it's
going
to
cause
problems
in
other
communities,
but
they
have
said
you
know
I
found
somebody
that
is
accepting
patients
in
Spruce,
Grove
or
Sherwood
Park
or
another
smaller
community.
I
That
they've
managed
to
find
someone
which
is
terrific
for
them.
I'm
happy
that
they've
been
able
to
find
a
physician
that
can
take
them,
but
they're
adding
pressure
to
those
communities
and
I
know
those
communities
are
struggling
as
well.
So
we
have
to
address
the
problem
and
you
know
sadly,
I've
heard
this
government
say
a
number
of
times
that
you
know
doctors
aren't
leaving
it's
not
a
problem,
it's
not
a
crisis.
Well,
it
is.
I
We
know
it
is,
and
you
know
I
just
had
a
quick
look
to
remind
myself,
because
I
I
wasn't
sure
of
the
numbers,
but
it
was
reported.
March,
24th,
2022,
CTV,
reported
and
I'm
sure
this
is
coming
from
a
report.
But
this
is
just
the
first
news
article
that
I
found
that
the
number
of
docs
or
doctors
who
left
Alberta
last
year
was
almost
equal
to
the
number
who
left
in
the
prior
two
years.
M
Thank
you
very
much,
the
honorable
member
for
allowing
me
to
intervene.
I
just
wanted
to
well.
First
of
all
just
wanted
to
comment.
Thank
you
for
supporting
the
bill
to
the
members
of
the
fish
lot
position.
I,
that's
greatly
appreciated
I
hope
we
can
move
it
forward
quickly.
I
did
want
to
comment
because
you're
You're,
The
Honorable
member
from
Saint
Albert,
was
making
a
comment
about
the
the
loss
of
doctors
and,
quite
frankly,
Madam
chair
that
that
isn't
the
case.
We
have
more
doctors
than
ever
before
in
the
province.
It
always
is
churn.
M
I
appreciate
doctors
leave
and
Dr
Tom,
but
you
know,
as
of
if
we
compare
this
year,
September
30th
to
last
year,
we
have
176
more
doctors
in
the
province.
We
have
11
346
doctors
registered
the
most
ever
and
Madam
speaker
I
just
provide
a
comment.
I
well
I
appreciate
the
official
opposition
of
supporting
this
and
I.
Thank
thank
the
bill.
I.
Thank
them
for
that
I.
M
I
And
the
health
Minister
stood
up
and
sort
of
said
that
very
same
thing.
So
when
we
know
cities
like
Lethbridge,
we
know
there's
a
crisis,
we
know
there's
a
problem,
we
hear
it,
it's
anecdotal
for
sure.
We
hear
it
from
all
of
our
constituencies
that
people
cannot
find
Physicians.
We
know
there
are
problems.
We
know
emergency
departments
are
closing.
We
know
people
can't
have
their
babies
in
their
communities.
There
is
a
problem.
There
is
a
large
problem.
I
Doctors
have
left,
Physicians
have
left
and
what
I
hear
from
Health
Providers
the
the
ones
that
I
speak
to
in
my
constituency.
What
they
very
very
clearly
say
is
Not
only
was
it
the
master
agreement
and
all
of
those
things
and
potential
changes
that
were
proposed
at
the
time?
It's
not
just
that
it
seems
to
be.
The
lingering
problem
that
I
still
hear
about
is
trust
that
there
is
zero
trust
in
this
government.
You
can
shift,
you
know,
chairs.
I
On
the
Titanic
kind
of
thing
you
can
shift
Ministry
ministers,
you
can
shift
Deputy
ministers,
you
can
shift
all
kinds
of
people
and
make
all
of
those
changes
you
can
fire
boards.
You
can
do
whatever
you
like.
The
the
fact
remains
is
that
you
know
albertans
don't
have
faith
so
they
watch
this
government
do
all
kinds
of
things
through
covid
and
I
actually
went
through,
like
my
colleague
from
Edmonton
City
Center.
Did
he
sort
of
gave
you
a
bit
of
a
timeline
of
the
activities
that
happened,
and
you
know
it's
been.
I
It's
been
a
wild
sort
of
few
years
with
covid
there's
been
so
much
happening.
That
I
went
back
to
remind
myself
what
this
timeline
was
like
Madam
chair
can
I
give
you
a
time
check.
You
have
11
minutes,
okay,
thank
you,
and
so
I
used
actually
a
really
terrific
article.
It
was
really
concise
and
I.
Remember
reading
it
at
the
time.
I
thought
it
was
quite
good
and
it's
from
September
of
2020.
I
and
it
it.
Oh.
No
sorry
I
got
that
date,
wrong.
I'm
gonna
have
to
go
back
and
correct
that
and
they
gave
us
a
bit
of
a
timeline
about
what
happened.
So
it's
a
bit
of
a
stroll
down
memory
lane,
so
they
talked
a
little
bit
about
and
I
love
the
way
this
article
set
up.
What
was
coming
in
that
Omnibus
Bill
and
what
was
coming
and
the
changes
that
we
saw.
I
So
we
know
that
early
in
September
there
was
the
McKinnon
report,
so
we
all
said
at
the
time
you
know
the
UCP
is
going
to
use
this
report
as
cover
they're,
going
to
do
all
kinds
of
things
from
looking
at
Physicians
pay
to
nurse
duties
and
roles
and
the
entire
system
needed
to
be
overhauled.
According
to
this
report,
and
according
to
the
UCP
government
members
that
stood
up
and
defended
that
and
clearly
what
that
told
us
at
that
time
that
they
were
on
a
path,
they
had
a
path,
they
had
a
goal.
I
They
were
not
going
to
reverse
that
goal,
and
then
we
saw
them
continue
to
do
that.
We
then
saw
the
ersten
young
release
their
report
in
February.
They
went
a
little
further
talked
about
70
ways
to
save
two
billion
dollars.
You
look
at
that
report
and
you
can
see
literally
see
some
of
the
decisions
and
some
of
the
damage
that
was
done
as
a
result.
I
So
we
know
that
tensions
came
to
a
head
in
February,
22
or
2020.
That
was
a
really
bad
time
for
the
then
Health
Minister
when
he
announced.
That
was
the
time
he
announced
that
he
was
ripping
up
the
contract
with
doctors.
You
can
remember
I,
think
my
the
colleague,
my
colleague
from
Edmonton
Center,
talked
about
the
minister
sort
of
yelling
at
another
physician
which
was
horrible,
I.
Think
we've
talked
about
that
enough,
but
still
the
government
members
I
can
recall
at
the
time
nobody
was
sort
of
giving
an
inch.
I
They
were
still
saying
no
we're
right.
We
have
to
do
this,
we're
on
the
right
path,
blah
blah
blah
McKinnon
panel,
blah
blah
blah
Ernst
Young.
When
people
were
saying
we
have
a
blossoming
problem,
there
is
a
problem.
There
is
this
pandemic,
that
none
of
us
really
understood
the
parameters
of
I,
don't
know
still
that.
We
understand
a
lot
of
what
happened,
because
we
haven't
had
a
chance
to
even
go
back
and
really
examine
what
was
happening
and
what
we
did
as
a
result,
and
then
the
pandemic
hit
full
force.
I
So
for
you
know
we
we
had
some
of
the
proposed
changes
to
the
the
Physicians
contracts.
You
know
I
want
to
touch
on
the
one
thing,
and
that
was
with
the
extra
long
visits
and
I
know.
My
colleague
touched
on
that
earlier,
and
this
was
what
I
heard
from
physicians
at
that
time,
and
they
were
saying
that
this
is
going
to
really
cause
problems
for
people
that
are
complex.
So,
as
you
can
imagine,
Madam
speaker,
there
are
a
number
of
people
in
this
province
that
have
complex
health
issues.
I
Health
concerns
not
to
mention
coupled
with
disabilities
or
mental
illnesses
or
whatever
the
case
may
be.
But
it
is
only
because
that
they
have
found
Physicians
that
can
actually
work
with
them
and
support
them.
They
should
be
paid
appropriately
for
it,
and
this
change
was
going
to
change
that
and
we
heard
that
directly
from
Physicians.
This
isn't
something
that
we
made
up.
I
Is
an
absolute
head
scratcher
to
me:
I,
don't
get
it
I
do
not
get
it,
why
they
would
gamble
with
a
Health
Care
System,
the
wellness
of
albertans,
at
a
time
that
there
were
so
many
unknowns
here
at
home
in
Alberta
in
Canada
and
around
the
world
yeah
April
9th.
You
know,
let's
not
forget
this-
the
AMA
sued
the
province
over
changes
to
the
way
that
doctors
could
bill
for
service.
Now,
that's
pretty
serious
when
you
have
the
AMA
suing
the
government.
I
Knowing
what
was
happening,
they
could
see
all
around
them.
What
was
happening
and
still
they
focused
on
this
path.
I
would
say
you
know
there
were
a
lot
of
people
speculating.
Is
this
the
ultimate
goal?
Madam
speaker
is
just
to
crash
this
Health
Care
system,
so
that
the
solution
is
let's
privatize,
because
privatizing
is
always
the
answer.
I
All
of
these
professionals
that
work
in
health
care
that
are
the
front
lines
that
knew
exactly
what
was
going
to
happen,
we're
predicting
disaster
and
what
we
did
see
was
disaster.
What
we
continue
to
see
is
disaster,
and
let's
remember
at
the
time
that
all
of
this
was
going
on
what
was
happening
here
in
Alberta
we
already
had.
We
were
already
approaching
a
hundred
deaths,
so
we
already
knew
that
it
was
a
problem
we
already
knew.
We
saw
it,
our
hospitals
were
starting
to
fill.
I
We
were
starting
to
understand
the
different
pressures
on
people
and
still
this
government
continued
July
10th
AMA
released
a
survey
that
found
40
percent
of
all
Physicians
were
eyeing
a
move,
so
they
were
either
thinking
about
moving
or
planning
on
moving
and,
sadly
many
did
leave
and
they
didn't.
You
know
I'm
sure
some
left
for
completely
innocent
reasons
that
were
personal
that
were
not
related
to
this
government's
mismanagement,
but
many
left,
because
there
was
no
trust
and
they
felt
that
you
know
what
there
was
no
point
in
staying.
I
If
they
were
working
in
a
province
where
they
could
not
be
respected
by
the
government
of
the
day,
they
were
not
being
respected
and
they
just
moved
elsewhere
and
they
had
that
ability
and
who
suffers
is
albertans
a
little
later
that
very
same
month,
July
29th.
They
released
a
referendum
of
Physicians
residents
and
medical
students.
I
They
were
asked
a
question.
I,
don't
know
the
exact
phrasing
of
the
question.
But
the
question
was
something
along
the
lines
of
you
know
how
much
Faith
or
trust
do
you
have
in
the
health,
Minister
and
I.
Think
we
all
remember
that
number
very
close
to
what
the
ATA
had
for
the
education
minister
in
terms
of
trust,
and
that
was
about
98
percent
said
they
had
no
faith.
No
trust
now,
I'm,
not
saying
that
the
current
health
minister
is
is
in
the
same
league
as
the
last
one
at
all,
because
I
think
he's.
I
Actually,
quite
reasonable
and
quite
lovely
to
speak
to-
and
you
know,
I
hope
that
he's
hearing
some
of
the
concerns
that
we're
really
not
just
standing
up
here
to
hear
ourselves
speak
that
we
actually
are
trying
to
relay.
This
is
what
I
hear
from
people.
This
is
kind
of
email
that
I
get.
These
are
the
phone
calls
that
I
get
when
a
door
knock.
That's
what
I
hear
these
are
the
problems
and
we've
been
hearing
this
for
years.
I
mean
this:
isn't
new?
I
This
isn't
new
at
all,
so
you
know
I,
don't
think
any
government
ever
gets
it
right.
I
think
that
really
good
leadership
requires
people
to
listen
and
do
the
awkward
things
sometimes
and
to
admit
mistakes.
You
know
what
we've
made
a
mistake:
kind
of
screwed
up
and
so
we're
going
to
fix
it
and
here's
how
we're
going
to
fix
it
instead
of
just
defending
a
bad
Bill
or
defending
a
bad
decision
and
I
think
you
know,
I,
don't
think
anyone
in
here
is
particularly
more
guilty
than
others.
I
I
think
we're
all
in
our
lives
can
do
better,
but
the
sad
reality
is
is
that
the
decisions
that
we
make
in
this
place
the
decisions
that
this
government
makes
in
this
place.
Let
me
be
clear
about
that:
the
decisions
that
they
make
the
bills
they
pass
the
regulations
that
they
make
impact
people's
lives
directly
and
we've
seen
that
we
see
it
in
the
state
of
our
health
care
System
right
now.
It's
a
disaster.
I
The
disaster.
When
you
have
paramedics
and
firefighters,
even
the
firefighters
from
St
Albert.
You
know
telling
me
about
different
instances
when
they've
had
to
respond.
They
one
example
they
gave
me
this
morning.
They
responded
to
a
young
boy
that
was
drowning.
He
was
drowning.
They
did
they
intubated
him.
They
did
all
of
the
things
that
you
know
responders
EMS
responders
would
do
their
Advanced
life
support
I
mean
that's
they're,
an
integrated
service,
so
they
can
do
that.
I
They
have
that
equipment
on
their
truck,
but
they
did
that
they
had
the
patient
stabilized
for
I,
don't
know,
maybe
an
hour
45
minutes,
and
then
the
ambulance
showed
up.
That's
not
normal.
That's
dangerous
and
more
people
are
going
to
lose
their
lives.
As
a
result,
you
know
doing
Health
Care
in
a
parking
lot
or
in
a
bay
is
not
okay,
women
not
being
able
to
give
birth
in
their
communities
and
having
to
drive
long
distances?
That's
not!
Okay!
R
R
AQ
And
that
warning
is
something
that
is
very
unfortunate,
that
the
government
never
did
heed,
because
the
damage
that
was
caused
is
long-term.
Madam
speaker,
it's
it's
intergenerational.
In
my
view
to
to
have
all
of
the
doctors,
11
000
doctors
in
this
province
go
through
a
process
where
the
government
actually
just
unilaterally
tore
up
their
contract.
It
is
a
shocking
thing
in
a
in
in
a
dog
democracy
to
to
witness
and
I
can't
imagine
this
healing
anytime
soon.
AQ
AQ
V
You
thank
you.
Mr
Speaker
I
appreciate
the
the
thoughts
a
member
was
sharing
about
the
process
of
negotiation.
Evolving.
Of
course,
I'd
note
that
the
member
for
Edmonton
McClung
spent
many
years
working
as
a
realtor,
and,
of
course
that
is
a
job
where
you
have
to
know
how
to
negotiate
a
deal.
So
I
was
wondering
you
know
from
his
experience,
working
as
a
realtor,
helping
so
many
different
people
to
object
to
achieve
their
goals
and,
of
course,
negotiating
things
like
pricing
on
houses.
V
AQ
Thank
you
very
much
member.
It's
actually
very
interesting
that
you
bring
up
the
word
negotiating
because
it's
in
page
three
of
my
notes
that
I
made
to
myself
and
when
the
note
attached
to
that
is
that
this
government
is
not
very
good
at
negotiating
and
unfortunately,
they
unfortunately
have
a
lack
of
institutional
knowledge
that
was
passed
down
from
one
Premier
to
the
next
and
that
the
decision
to
go
ahead
and
seek
control
rather
than
negotiate
is
seemingly
something
a
lesson
unlearned
from
one
Premier
to
another
and
I'm.
AQ
Unfortunately,
seeing
the
the
new
premier
deciding
that
negotiations
are
not
her
primary
mode
of
achieving
agreement
and
that
she's
looking
at
imposing
things-
and
you
know
the
bill,
one
that
we
have
before
are
still
in
the
house
is
another
example
of
that.
Where
we're
looking
at
the
the
house
being
circumvented,
never
mind
a
government
contract
I'll
have
another
intervention
go
ahead.
Oh.
AN
Thank
you.
You
know
my
friend
from
Edmonton
McClung
has
spent
some
time
not
only
before
becoming
an
elected
official,
but
of
course,
during
his
time
talking
to
the
constituents
of
of
Edmonton
McClung,
getting
their
feedback
I'm
just
kind
of
curious.
You
know,
thinking
back
to
when
the
contract
was
was
first
torn
up
during
your
years,
knocking
on
doors
talking
with
constituents,
hearing
their
feedback.
What
they
would
like
to
see
before
you
were
an
elected
official.
AN
You
know
what
kind
of
changes
were
they
hoping
for
did
tearing
up
the
doctor's
contract
even
make
it
onto
the
list,
because
I
know
in
my
time
door
knocking
from
2013
in
Edmonton,
Decor
I,
certainly
didn't
hear
gosh
I
wish
a
health
Minister
would
go
in
there,
tear
up
that
contract
and
create
all
kinds
of
chaos.
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
maybe
perhaps
you
might
have
heard
those
kinds
of
things
I
didn't
hear
them
in
Decor.
Maybe
it's
just
simply
my
writing
that
had
that
lack
of.
AQ
AQ
The
fact
remains
that
the
trust
has
been
broken
and
the
the
the
the
Medical
Association
and
albertans
as
well
know
now
that
the
stroke
of
appended
at
the
decision
of
a
government
they
they
may
revisit
this
once
again
and
see
that
it
they
take
unto
themselves
the
same
power
once
again.
So
the
the
institutional
damage
we've
done.
Mr
Speaker,
is
something
that
we'll
be
recording
for
decades
to
come,
and
it
will
always
be
referencing
back
to
this
Omnibus
Bill
21.
That
is
now
going
to
be
repaired
by
the
bill
for
this
before
us.
AQ
It
would
be
a
Hallmark
of
of
failure
by
a
government
that
saw
fit
to
tear
up
a
legitimate
bona
fide
contract
and
direct
to
doctors
that
they
would
control
what
they
were
paid
unilaterally
and
I.
Think
it's
it's
fair
to
say
that
the
medical
association
and
other
professional
bodies
will
always
have
it
in
the
back
of
their
minds.
Historically,
whether
or
not
a
future
conservative
government
will
do
this
once
again,
it
poisons
the
atmosphere,
Mr
Speaker.
It
is
not
helpful.
AQ
I
know
that
in
my
past
career,
as
other
members
have
alluded
to
negotiations
that
I've
been
through
with
through
house
transactions,
probably
at
my
account
about
800
of
them-
we're
not
always
easy.
They
were
difficult
in
many
cases
and
they
took
quite
a
bit
of
time.
Sometimes
over
course,
a
number
of
days,
but
certainly
I
never
had
the
the
the
option
to
stand
up
and
and
pose
a
contract
upon
one
party
or
the
other
Mr
Speaker.
That
was
something
that
needed
to
be
done
between
the
parties
and
and
negotiate
a
settlement
between
the
two.
AQ
AQ
No
I
know
that
the
provincial
response
to
the
pandemic
over
time
is
something
that
the
province
has
been
very
critical
of
and
I
know
that
today,
I
think
the
premier
said
in
response
to
questions
about
the
desperate
pleas
for
for
Meaningful,
comprehensive
leadership
in
terms
of
caring
for
children's
and
respite
care,
respite
care,
which
is
no
longer
there.
Her
response
was
that
Tylenol
was
on
the
way
that
we
have
well
sufficient
amount
of
Tylenol
coming
to
hopefully
prevent
this
disease,
but
indeed
that's
not
what
the
question
was
all
about.
AQ
Well,
thank
you,
member
for
having
the
city
center
for
that
intervention
and
it
brings
to
mind
the
recent
conversations
I've
had
with
doctors
in
the
local
hospital.
In
my
riding,
the
physical
accordia
and
I
won't
identify
them,
but
the
Crux
of
the
conversations
that
I
have
had
with
them
is
that
the
local
hospitals
are
Beyond.
A
breaking
point.
I
asked
the
question:
what
would
be
the
straw
that
broke
the
camel's
back
and
the
response
was
that
it's
already
happened,
we're
Beyond
crisis
point.
AQ
That's
not
what
the
public
is
wanting
to
hear.
Madam
speaker
they.
They
know
that.
There's
a
lot
of
room
for
this
government
to
make
up
in
terms
of
trust,
as
as
a
result
of
such
things
as
the
bill.
21
decision
to
tear
up
doctors,
contracts
and
the
the
bill
for
before
us
today
to
try
to
rectify
that
by
removing
the
ability
to
to
do
that
is
is
something
that
is
a
step
in
the
right
direction,
but
certainly
the
the
premier's
responses.
AQ
AQ
To
expect
that
a
contract
would
would
be
a
contract
tracked
and
wouldn't
be
torn
up.
But
that
indeed,
of
course,
is
what
happened
and
over
the
long
term.
Mr
Speaker
I
think
that
we're
going
to
find
that
albertans
are
going
to
be
deciding
that
trust
is
only
going
to
be
doled
out
in
small
doses,
to
Future
Alberta
governments
and
that's
the
damage
to
our
our
democracy.
AQ
When
you
see
a
a
premier
and
a
government
Focus
entirely
on
things
that
are
ideologically
driven
to
control
their
agenda
and
to
force
upon
in
particular,
this
case
that
doctors
to
accept
a
contract
without
engaging
in
respectful
negotiations
is
something
that
I,
don't
think,
will
be
ever
100
forgiven
in
this
province.
And
it
shouldn't
be
the
issues
that
the
albertans
are
wanting
to
have
our
government
focus
on
or
something
that
we
are
entirely
focused
on?
AQ
Is
the
health
care
crisis
and
we've
come
up
with
a
plan
for
that
ourselves,
and
the
cost
of
living
is
something
that
the
province
is
struggling
with
my
constituents.
So
it
will
remind
me
of
that
every
door
I
knock
on
and
the
ability
of
albertans
to
have
faith
in
their
government,
whether
it's
a
decision
to
decide
to
go
to
university
here
to
start
a
business
here
to
engage
in
a
non-profit
organization.
C
K
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker
I
was
pausing
there
slightly
because
yeah.
It's
intriguing
to
me
that
on
a
government
bill
that
you
know
undoubtedly
their
members
support,
they
wouldn't
be
rising
to
speak
to
it
other
than
the
illustrious
Health
Minister
who
I
appreciate
him
weighing
in,
and
you
know
listening
and
interjecting.
K
Many
many
hours
in
other
writings
support
some
of
my
MLA
colleagues
and
some
of
our
new
candidates,
including
Edmonton
Southwest,
which
has
been
fantastic,
knocking
on
doors
there
multiple
times
and
a
lot
of
healthcare
workers
there
a
lot
of
healthcare
workers
there,
a
lot
of
teachers,
lawyers,
yeah
lots
of
lots
of
let's
working
professionals
and
yeah
I
can
I,
can
tell
you
just
I
was
just
knocking
on
doors
there
on
Saturday.
It
was
cold,
but
the
reception
was
warm
and
yeah.
K
Healthcare
definitely
came
up
a
lot
of
the
doors
and,
as
I've
said
in
this
chamber
before
you
know,
I'll
often
start
my
conversation
with
folks.
Just
you
know
saying
you
know
we're
out
campusing
and
just
curious
what
your
top
issues
are
and
Health
Care,
almost
always
Rises
to
the
top,
and
not
just
here
in
Edmonton
I
talk
about
Evan
Southwest,
but
Medicine.
Hat
is
a
great
example.
Talking
to
the
member
from
Cyprus
medicine
had
earlier
about
my
experiences
door.
K
That
see
this
is
the
beauty
of
interventions.
You
can
kind
of
have
your
Speech
sort
of
mapped
out
as
I
do
here
very
nicely,
but
sorry
is
that
a
problem
I
never
I've,
never
actually,
yeah.
It's
not
a
problem.
Just
telling
you
I
have
a
little
bit
of
a
plan
here,
but
the
member
you
know
he
wouldn't
have
known
my
plan.
I
only
knew
my
plan
about
two
minutes
ago,
so
you
wouldn't
have
known
my
plan,
but
one
of
my
plans
was
to
actually
talk
just
about
that.
K
The
impact
of
the
crisis
in
health
care
on
some
of
my
most
marginalized
constituents.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
that
that
would
be
on
house
folks
who
I
represent
and
I
do
I,
don't
want
to
say
I
have
the
honor,
because
I'll
preface
this
but
I
do
I
do
represent
many
on
house
folks,
perhaps
the
most
in
the
province,
and
that's
not
an
enviable
honor.
K
That's
for
sure,
and
part
of
that
is
for
folks
who
know
my
writing
is
we
do
have
a
concentration
of
social
services,
including
you
know
the
the
Bissell,
Center
and
hope,
Mission
and
operation
friendship,
senior
society
and
and
oil
Macaulay
Health
Center,
now
known
as
radius,
health
and
and
many
many
more
I
know.
I
should
never
start
naming
because
then
I
will
miss
folks
and
they're
all
for
any
of
them
watching
at
home.
They
are
all
doing
incredible
work
and
it's.
In
fact.
K
This
is
my
first
time
debating
fully
in
the
house
other
than
intervening
and
I
always
you'll.
All
recall
that
I
always
love
to
give
a
shout
out
to
folks
on
the
front
lines,
whether
they're
in
healthcare
or
retail,
or
you
name
it
and
I
can
I.
Can
exactly
I
can
tell
you
that
that
member
that
he's
exactly
right,
you
know
it's
it's
a
unhoused
folks
in
particular.
K
Are
you
know,
sort
of
being
bombarded
from
multiple
angles
right
now,
and
you
know
if
you,
if
you
are
unhoused
you're
you're,
dealing
with
a
lot
of
Health
Care
issues
to
begin
with,
and
as
that
member
noted
right
now
in
in
the
in
in
the
inner
city,
which
you
know
myself
and
my
colleague
from
City
Center
represent
the
shigella
outbreak.
Has
it's
just
we
don't
even
know,
we
don't
even
know
the
half
of
it
and
I
know.
The
minister
is
aware
of
this.
K
This
crisis
as
well
and
I'm,
certainly
no
expert,
but
we
know
that
one
of
the
main
reasons
why
shigella,
you
know
why
why
it
presents
increases
in
why
it
spreads,
is
because
of
lack
of
access
to
sanitation,
lack
of
access
to
to
water
and
clean
water
and,
of
course,
most
predominantly
lack
of
access
to
housing
right
and
you
know
so
that
so
they've
got
this
Public
Health
crisis.
On
top
of
the
fact
that
we
are
still
in
the
midst
of
a
pandemic.
K
Let
us
not
forget
that,
but
it's
also
currently,
according
to
my
computer,
minus
26,
and
that's
that
doesn't
tell
me
the
wind,
chill
and
I'm
sure
it's
worse
and
I
can
tell
you
last
night
coming
home
from
the
legislature
and
then
a
few
events
in
the
evening.
My
typical
route
is
down.
96Th,
Street
and
I
choose
that
route,
specifically
because
that's
where
Bissell
Center
and
that's
where
a
lot
of
the
the
tents
are
a
lot
of
the
encampments
are
and
sure
enough.
K
Last
night,
oh
gosh,
probably
around
eight
o'clock
would
have
been
I,
think
minus
40,
or
something
like
that
folks
Milling
about
sleeping
outside
in
this,
and
that's
like
I
I
thought
about
that.
This
morning
too,
because
I
was
gosh,
it
was
I,
think
it
was
minus
40
or
something
this
morning
as
well
as
I'm
driving
to
the
legislature.
K
K
How
is
it
that
people
are
are
living
in
these
conditions
right
now
and
they
are
and
I
would
encourage
any
of
you
to
you
know:
I,
try
to
stop
and
talk
to
them
as
much
as
I
can,
but
you
feel
you
feel
hopeless
right.
You
really
do
yes,
I
will
let
the
minister
or
the
member
pardon
me
from
City
Center
interview.
V
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker
I
was
listening
to
what
my
colleague
was
just
saying
about
the
challenges
we
know
folks
are
facing,
who
are
living
houseless
in
the
city
right
now.
Certainly
this
is
a
concern.
I've
been
hearing
for
many
in
my
constituency
as
well.
Certainly
I
know
it
has
a
significant
impact
on
a
lot
of
people.
AA
V
These
individuals
will
not
have
it'll
build
a
health
care
insurance
card,
but
one
of
the
things
that
this
government
pushed
through
this
tearing
up
the
agreement
with
Physicians
4
was
to
remove
the
ability
for
doctors
at
the
Royal
Alex
emergency
room
to
be
able
to
bill
for
services
if
they
treated
one
of
those
individuals
with
frostbite,
because
they
did
not
have
their
car.
Just
wondering
what
the
member
thought
of
that.
K
Yeah
and
and
again,
thank
you
thank
you
for
mentioning
that
I
mean
I.
I
was
on
my
list
as
well
just
to
talk
about
Royal,
what's
happening
at
the
rih
world,
Alexander
hospital
and,
of
course
it's
in
my
colleague's
riding,
but
very
close
to
mine,
and
so
we
see
we
see
a
heck
of
a
number
a
lot,
a
lot
heck
of
a
lot
of
our
constituents
going
there,
and
you
know,
I
I
can
tell
you
that
the
Royal
that
that
hospital-
it's
it's,
it's
not
new-
that
it's
it.
K
It
deals
with
a
lot
of
marginalized
folks
on
house
folks,
I
always
tell
the
story
that
I
was.
This
sounds
like
a
sounds
like
a
terrible
story,
but
I
promise.
It
wasn't
that
bad,
but
many
years
ago
2013
I
believe
I
was
bike.
I
was
biking
and
In
fairness
before
I
was
a
master
cyclist.
So
it
was
mostly
my
fault,
because
I
was
on
the
sidewalk,
but
I
was
hit
by
a
car.
A
BMW
silver
BMW
never
did
find
that
silver
BMW.
K
K
Ambulance
I
went
to
the
Royal,
Alex
and
I
still
remember
being
hit
by
a
car,
but
like
really
not
knowing
if
I
broke
my
arm
or
what
and
having
to
wait
quite
a
while,
like
having
been
low
priority
and
I
thought.
Oh,
my
goodness,
if
I
was
hit
by
a
car
and
I'm
not
low
priority,
so
I
know
this
is
not
my
point
of
saying
that
is
I
know
that
the
strain
on
that
hospital
is
not.
AL
K
However,
however,
this
is
a
hospital,
and
these
are
healthcare
workers
there
and
and
both
that
member
from
City,
Center
and
I
know
a
number
of
the
healthcare
workers
there
and
they're
doing
amazing
work.
I'd,
give
them
a
shout
out
if
they're
watching
but
I
know
they're
not
watching,
because
they
are
incredibly
busy,
but
they
have
been
again
impacted
by
a
whole
number
of
issues.
K
Any
action,
in
fact,
from
this
government
to
address
the
immediate
pressing
issues
on
the
front
lines
in
our
in
our
area,
in
particular,
okay,
oh,
my
goodness,
I
realized
I,
haven't
even
got
to
some
of
the
big
things
that
I
want
to
speak
about
here,
so
I
really
want
to
and
I'll
bring
it
back
to
Bill
Ford,
just
in
case
the
speaker
is
concerned
about
me,
going
off
track.
I.
K
K
Essentially
what
this
bill
does
is
it.
It
reverses
that
absolutely
horrific
decision
that
we
saw
from
the
UCP
regarding
tearing
up
to
the
contract
for
for
doctors
and
I've,
heard
my
colleagues
talk
about
this
as
well
that
you
know,
because
of
particularly
the
the
previous
Health
Care,
our
previous
Health
Minister.
Pardon
me
his
actions,
so
many
albertans
do
not
have
a
family
doctor.
K
Family
doctors
have
left
this
province,
family
doctors
have
retired,
some
have
retired,
early
and
and
a
big
part
of
it
is
just
the
way
that
Minister
engaged
with
them,
and
you
know
it's
it's
been
this.
This
ongoing
combative
approach
instead
of
one
that
could
be
collaborative
right
and
and
that's
what
that's,
what
those
healthcare
workers
do
in
the
midst
of
a
pandemic
deserved,
and
they
didn't
get
it.
K
And
so
of
course,
you
know
we're
we're,
as
we've
said
on
the
record
here,
we're
happy
to
see
that
they're
reversing
that
decision,
but
we
didn't
need
to
be
here.
We
didn't
need
to
be
here
when
it
comes
to
so
many
decisions
that
this
ucpeo
I
thought
he
was
what
that
the
CCP
government
has
implemented,
particularly
when
it
comes
to
Health,
Care
I
can't
not
stand
in
this
chamber
and
and
talk
about
health
and
not
to
talk
about
the
absolute
crisis
that
is
Children's,
Health
Care.
K
You
know,
you
know
it's
it's
it.
I
I've
shared
this
on
social
media
too.
It's
just
it's
it's
hard
to
believe
that
we've
come
to
a
place
where
it's
almost
like
acceptable
that
children
are
being
denied
care
and,
and
the
members
opposite
might
say,
Well
they're,
not
you
know,
they're
not
being
denied
care.
Well.
K
This
is
exactly
what
we
see
when
we
see
the
the
closing
of
rfh
in
Calgary,
the
the
the
moving
of
of
respite
services
and
I
can
tell
you
that
was
Friday
night
when
that
news
broke,
and,
admittedly
I
still
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
a
social
life.
So
I
was
following
that
closely
and
I
was
following
that
story
closely,
as
it
was
breaking
on
I
believe
a
CBC
that
broke
it
first
and
so
immediately.
I
just
posted
about
and
said
I
just
this
is.
K
L
Thank
you
very
much
and
to
my
colleague
from
Highlands
Norwood,
who
has
been
responding
on
on
Bill
4
and
talking
now
about
what
we're
seeing
in
children's
hospitals
and
with
our
emergency
rooms
being
overwhelmed
and
tying
that
into
what
she
was
talking
about.
Just
before
that
point,
the
the
doctors
leaving
the
province
and
the
the
shortages
that
we're
seeing
in
the
health
care
I
just
wanted
to
intervene
to
add
my
own
reflection
that
it's
really
really
hard
to
see.
K
Thank
you,
no
you're,
you're,
absolutely
right.
The
member
from
from
Millwoods
is
absolutely
right
and,
and
I
think
you
know
that
was.
That
was
a
hard.
That
was
a
hard
thing
to
see
yesterday,
so
so
I'll
take
you
back.
It
was
just
had
to
double
check
to
make
sure
it
was
Tuesday
today
that
was
just
yesterday
that,
of
course,
you
know
it
was
the
first
opportunity
we
had
since
the
news
broke
on
Friday
about
rotary
Flame's
house,
and
so
it
was
the
first
opportunity
we
had
yesterday
to
really
highlight.
K
That
is
another
issue.
On
top
of
of
the
many
factors
that
are
that
make
up
the
crisis
in
children's
health,
so,
naturally,
on
just
yesterday
on
Monday,
the
member
from
City
Center
did
ask
for
an
emergency
debate
on
on
Children's
Health
Care
and
he
was
denied,
which
sends
a
pretty
clear
message,
then
not
long
after
that
moments
later
in
fact,
moments
later.
In
fact,
our
member
from
Edmonton
Strathcona,
the
leader,
was,
was
denied
an
opportunity
to
debate
her
bill
in
this
chamber.
K
In
fact,
it
was
moved
down
the
priority
list
by
this
UCB
government
that
you
know
claims
to
want
to
prioritize
private
members
business.
No
only
when
that
private
member's
business
is
their
private
members
and
it's
about
health
care,
you
know
I
feel
like
this
health
Minister.
He
may
not
have
had
to
say
in
that
decision,
but
I
feel
like
this.
Health
Minister
wants
to
be
collaborative
and
wants
to
hear
our
ideas
like
the
ideas
we've
outlined
in
Bill
201,
which
didn't
just
materialize
out
of
nowhere.
K
Those
ideas,
but
in
Bill
201,
came
from
a
whole
heck
of
a
lot
of
consultation
from
our
side
of
the
house.
So,
in
a
span
of
just
a
few
minutes
yesterday,
this
government
told
us
exactly
what
they
think
about
health
care,
and
let
me
tell
you
we
will
continue
to
remind
albertans
about
how
this
government
refuses
to
prioritize
Healthcare
and
Children's
Health
Care.
Every
moment.
L
Honorable
member,
thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Speaker
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
rise
to
address
second
reading
of
bill
for
the
Alberta
Health
Care
insurance
Amendment
act
a
bill
that
when
you
look
at
the
contents
of
the
bill,
it
appears
very
straightforward.
It
is
updating
based
on
the
change
in
title
of
one
of
our
Ministries
Justice
and
solicitor
general
throughout
the
bill
where
that
needs
to
happen.
L
And
then
the
real
Crux
of
this
piece
of
legislation
is
repealing
of
section
40.2
40.2,
which
referred
to
essentially
the
lieutenant
governor
and
Council
made
by
order
terminate
the
AMA
agreement
or
agreements,
and
it's
laid
out
with
a
bit
more
language.
I'm
not
going
to
read
that
into
the
record.
Mr
Speaker,
but
essentially
the
entirety
of
Bill
4,
is
moving
from
government,
an
ability
that
they
gave
themselves
in
2019.
L
That
has
been
incredibly
controversial
since
the
the
first
time
that
it
was
introduced
following
through
to
when
it
was
used
in
February
of
2020,
and
now
here
we
are
in
December
of
2022
removing
this
ability,
because
it
was
deemed
to
be
so
problematic
and
caused.
So
so
many
issues
that
moving
forward
when
it
comes
to
the
relationship
with
doctors.
The
absolute
best
thing
that
they
could
do
would
be
to
remove
that
and
make
assurances
that
that
similar
Powers
would
not
be
granted
again
in
the
future.
L
And
this
has
to
do
a
lot
with
this
government
and
negotiating
bargaining
with
important
Frontline
healthcare
providers
and
we've
seen
this
government's
tactics
when
it
came
to
comes
to
bargaining
and
in
the
case
of
these
powers,
to
tear
up
agreements
legislatively
by
ordering
Council
by
cabinet
behind
closed
doors
and
for
cabinet
behind
closed
doors.
To
make
those
decisions.
L
It
really
created
a
loss
of
trust
when
it
came
to
the
doctors
and
a
toxic
relationship,
and
it
was
certainly
characterized
as
bargaining
and
bad
faith
for
the
government
not
only
to
Grant
itself,
these
Powers
in
an
attempt
to
strong
arm
and
then
to
use
these
powers
as
we
debate,
Bill
4,
I,
think
the
history
of
these
mechanisms
and
why
they're
being
repealed
now
are
really
Salient
and
really
important
to
the
conversation
that
we're.
Having
and
I
want
to.
Thank
all
of
my
colleagues
who
have
spoken
and
reminded
us
albertan's.
L
I
I
believe
my
colleague
from
Edmonton
City
Center
noted
that
the
minister
used
the
language
no
longer
required
and
suggested
it
was
never
required
and
I
would
have
to
agree.
It
would
have
been
better
for
Alberta.
Had
we
never
gone
down
this
path
when
it
comes
to
what
became
quite
a
toxic
relationship
with
doctors.
Remember.
K
K
K
K
You
know
the
the
crisis
that
we've
talked
about
with
you
know
the
impact
on
health
care
workers
which
I
didn't
even
get
to
in
my
remarks,
particularly
the
morale
issues,
the
burnout,
the
stress,
hopefully
I'll,
get
another
chance
to
talk
about
that,
because
I
have
a
lot
of
stories
that
I
sure
would
like
to
get
on
the
record
and
I.
Imagine
in
the
woods
you
talk
to
a
lot
of
healthcare
workers
as
well.
So
I'd
love
to
hear
a
little
bit
about
that
from
you.
The
member
for
Millwoods.
L
So,
thank
you.
Mr
Speaker
I
certainly
have
heard
on
the
doors
so
when
door
knocking
ever
since
Bill
21
was
first
introduced
into
2019
every
now
and
then
I
would
run
across
healthcare
workers
or
doctors
who
are
really
attuned
to
this
and
aware
of
it.
So
I've
had
some
good
conversations
about
that.
But,
generally
speaking
in
Millwoods,
the
Millwoods
is
a
community
designed
in
the
70s
and
in
the
heart
of
Millwoods.
L
Is
the
greenones
community
hospital
fact
I
see
it
every
day
as
I
drive
in
and
out
of
my
own
home
in
Mill
Woods
and
it's
we
have
so
many
health
care
workers
and
others
who
support
the
hospital
who
live
in
the
surrounding
communities
and
absolutely
Health.
Care
is
an
urgent
priority
for
the
constituents
of
Millwoods
and
something
I
hear
about
often,
particularly
because
in
Edmonton
the
green
ends.
Community
Hospital,
which
is
40
plus
years
old,
is,
is
the
newest
Hospital
in
the
city
of
Edmonton
and
I.
L
So
yes,
I
would
say
there
was
incredibly
High
awareness
of
what
was
happening
through
Bill
21
and
the
dispute
with
doctors.
The
highly
publicized
incident
of
the
previous
minister
of
Health,
engaging
with
a
doctor
on
on
his
driveway,
really
hit
a
lot
of
people's
Radars,
and
that
story
was
spread
far
and
wide
because
it
was
emblematic
of
the
toxic
relationship
in
the
back
and
forth.
That
was
happening.
L
AN
Of
course,
a
lot
of
support
workers
do
live
in
the
area
because
they
work
there
and
so
again
you
know
I'm,
always
a
person
of
Kudos,
where
it's
due
the
health
Minister
trying
to
repair
that
relationship
with
doctors,
but
I
wonder
if
you've
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
some
of
the
support
workers,
the
folks
that
clean
the
hospital
things
like
that,
because
we
know
that
relationship
did
not
go
well
it
it's.
It's
affected
people
in
their
jobs
and
during
your
time,
door
knocking
in
Edmonton
Woods.
AN
L
Thank
you
very
much
to
my
colleague
who
I
did
not
realize
was
a
former
president
of
Mel
Woods
to
know
which
neighborhoods
you
were
in
my
friend.
Certainly
the
the
hospital
is
itself
like
a
small
City,
the
the
variety
of
people
and
tasks
required
to
keep
a
hospital
running
and
to
provide
that
care.
Certainly
we
we
know
we
often
hear
the
phrase-
doctors
and
nurses,
but
when
it
comes
to
Frontline
Healthcare,
the
team
is
so
much
broader
and
deeper
than
than
just
those
very
front-facing
roles.
L
Everyone
from
cleaning
staff,
laundry
services,
the
the
team
that
operate
in
the
morgue,
the
the
teams
that
hand
out
handouts
the
medications,
the
porters
on
and
on
and
on
and
of
course,
during
the
pandemic,
we
saw
a
wildcat
strike,
not
it's
the
Millwoods
General
Hospital,
but
it's
a
community
hospital,
but
in
other
locations
here
in
the
city
and
so
that
toxic
controversial
relationship
has
really
had
a
negative
impact.
In
so
many
different
ways,
it's
been
frustrating
to
watch
and
as
I
think
about,
because
I
realize
we're
getting
close
to
6
p.m.
L
Mr
Speaker,
and
so
our
time
to
talk
about
Bill
4
is,
is
going
to
move
fairly
quickly
on
us.
I
want
to
make
a
few
of
my
priority
points,
and,
and
one
of
them
is
to
around
the
conversation
about
Bill
21,
the
tearing
up
of
doctors,
the
the
very
aggressive
bargaining
that
was
taking
place
over
the
last
several
years,
which
we
are
now
backing
away
from
which
I
appreciate
has
led
to
doctors,
leaving
Alberta.
L
M
The
Honorable
member
from
Edmonton
Mill
Woods
for
allowing
me
to
to
stand
and
speak
and
I
want
to
speak
to
this
one
issue
just
for
clarity,
so
in
terms
of
doctors.
So
my
my
comments
that
I
made
earlier
and
there's
a
recognition
that
we
do
have
not
enough
doctors
right.
We
have
more
doctors
than
we've
ever
had
before.
The
number
of
doctors
are
increasing,
but
we
don't
have
enough
doctors
and-
and
we
don't
have
enough
doctors
in
the
right
places.
M
That's
also
part
of
the
history,
or
you
know,
a
reaching
agreement
that
was
was
accepted
by
over
70
of
of
of
doctors
and
and
again
like
to
thank
you
for
your
support
and
moving
forward
that
this
part
of
the
part.
This
was
part
of
the
agreement
in
terms
of
doing
it
and
we're
looking
forward
again
to
passing
this
and
continue
to
focus
on
getting
more
doctors
here
in
Alberta.
L
L
The
minister
rightly
points
out
that
the
number
of
Physicians
has
increased,
but
this
year
it
increased
only
by
45..
Last
year,
it
increased
by
161
the
year
before
that
by
262.,
the
the
number
of
Physicians
we're
growing
by
is
shrinking,
and
the
trend
line
is
such
that
it's
going
to
be
in
the
neg
negatives
next
year.
If
these
Trends
continue,
that's
particularly
concerning,
given
where
we
find
ourselves
in
the
need
to
find
doctors.
So
the
word
the
minister
used
stability
agreed
incredibly
important.
L
L
The
bargaining
and
bad
faith
that
we
previously
saw,
but
the
issue
we
have
today
continues
to
exist
in
that
we
need
more
doctors,
we
need
to
recruit,
doctors
and
Trust
has
been
broken,
and
certainly
we
need
to
be
helping
people
to
find
doctors
and
trying
to
recover
from
the
care
deficit
that
has
been
put
in
place.
Now
in
preparing
for
my
remarks
for
Bill
4
I
was
briefing
myself
up
on
the
the
current
state
of.
L
How
someone
goes
about
to
find
doctors
and
I
was
reminded
seven
and
a
half
years
ago
before
I
was
elected.
Mr
Speaker
I
worked
as
a
software
consultant,
I.T
project
manager
and
one
of
the
the
projects
that
I
helped
with
was
the
Alberta
find
a
doctor.ca
website
which
still
seems
to
be
running
and
looks
similar,
I'm
sure
it's
completely
different
in
the
back
end
and
in
many
features
from
when
I
worked
on
it
seven
years
ago.
L
It
moves
at
a
pretty
quick
Pace
but
being
able
to
to
as
I
prepared
for
my
remarks
see
that
previous
work
brought
forward
really
reminded
me
of
how
important
it
is
that
people
be
able
to
access
that
public
health
care
and
to
have
that
that
doctor
now,
as
we
debate,
Bill
4
one
of
the
things
I
mentioned
briefly
when
my
colleague
from
Edmonton
Highlands
Norwood
spoke
was
when
we're
talking
about
health
care
in
this
house.
The
current
crisis
that
we
see
in
Children's
Healthcare
the
current
crisis
that
we
see
in
emergency
rooms
being
overwhelmed.
L
We
need
to
find
some
time
to
make
sure
we're
talking
having
those
conversations
as
well,
and
so
there
have
been
some
attempts
to
have
emergency
debates
around
that.
The
other
piece
that
I
think
is
interesting
to
consider
when
we're
talking
about
health
care
changes
in
second
reading
was
the
private
members
Bill
measuring
service
standards,
Bill
201,
because
when
we're
talking
about
our
Health
Care
system
and
how
it's
performing,
whether
we're
seeing
what
we
expect
out
of
that
system,
it's
incredibly
important
that
have
at
our
fingertips,
good
data
about
what
is
happening
and
I.
L
A
L
L
We've
seen
the
government
make
this
kind
of
argument
on
multiple
pieces
of
legislation,
including
Bill
10,
where
they
were
giving
themselves
new
powers
under
the
public
health
act.
We
see
that
happening
again
in
some
ways
when
we
talk
about
Bill
one
of
this
session,
the
sovereignty
Act
throughout.
So
many
of
these
issues,
honorable.
C
AN
You
know,
as
I
had
mentioned
a
little
bit
earlier
during
an
intervention
always
willing
to
give
kudos
where
it's
due
and
I.
Thank
the
minister
of
Health
for
bringing
bill
for
forward
to
fix
a
very
serious
problem
that,
in
in
my
opinion,
was
the
result
of,
let's
be
frank,
Mr
Speaker.
It
was
kind
of
a
childish
tirade.
AN
You
know
going
into
negotiations,
not
really
getting
the
way
they
wanted
and
well,
let's
just
rip
it
up.
That's
not
how
negotiations
work
and
I'm
glad
that
the
current
minister
of
health
is,
you
know,
trying
to
do
a
little
better
and
showing
a
better
way
to
negotiate
and
obviously,
by
getting
the
doctors
to
agree.