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Legislative Assembly of Alberta
10:24 Opening
30:27 Oral Question Period
01:23:13 Afternoon Session
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Serious
part,
let
us
pray
Lord,
the
god
of
righteousness
and
Truth
Grant
to
our
King,
to
his
government
members
of
the
legislative
assembly
into
all
in
positions
of
responsibility,
the
guidance
of
your
spirit.
May
they
never
leave
the
province
wrongly
through
level
power
desire
to
please
or
unworthy
ideas,
but
laying
aside
all
private
interests
and
Prejudice
Prejudice
responsibility
to
seek
to
improve
the
condition
of
all.
Please
be
seated.
C
Honorable
members,
it's
my
pleasure
to
introduce
two
groups
of
guests
to
us
today.
My
very
good
friend
and
former
president
of
olds
College,
the
current
president
of
the
Red
Deer
Polytechnic
Stuart
Callum,
and
he
is
joined
by
the
Vice
President
of
external
relations
at
Red,
Deer
poly,
pregnant
Polytechnic,
Richard
Longton.
Please
rise
and
receive
the
warm
welcome.
C
I
would
also
like
to
introduce
to
all
members
a
group
of
legislative
assembly
office
employees
who
have
joined
the
Legislative
Assembly
office
over
the
past
year
and
are
undergoing
their
orientation
to
the
assembly.
Today
they
are
seated
in
the
members
gallery
and
I'd
ask
them
to
rise
and
receive
the
warm
welcome
of
the
assembly.
G
Mr
Speaker
I'm
pleased
to
introduce
friends
and
family
of
Sebastian
hemskirk,
who
are
here
to
witness
the
tabling
of
a
petition
and
listen
to
a
member
statement
that
I'm
going
to
be
making
about
him.
I'd
like
to
introduce
to
the
assembly
Avalon
heems,
Kirk,
Tim,
heamskirk,
Shailene,
ceresky,
Shirley,
Crowley,
Shiloh,
skiffington,
hope,
Johnson,
Lorna,
Thomas,
Petra,
Schultz,
Jessica,
Williams,
Holly,
Thompson,
Carmen,
Nicholson
and
Mariska
Macklin.
If
they
could
all
rise
and
receive
the
traditional
The.
H
H
I
You
Mr
Speaker
I'm
honored
to
welcome
a
number
of
guests
that
are
here
to
participate
in
the
non-profit
vote
coalitions
and
the
Alberta
nonprofit
networks
date
at
the
legislature.
These
incredible
individuals
are
leaders
in
the
not-for-profit
sector
and
I
would
like
to
thank
them
for
the
incredible
work
that
they
do
in
our
communities.
So
please
rise
and
receive
the
warm
welcome
of
this
house.
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Please
join
me
in
welcoming
Patricia
parody,
Queen
Elizabeth,
II,
platinum,
Jubilee,
medal
recipient.
Her
record
of
service
includes
executive
director
at
the
center
for
constitutional
studies
at
the
University
of
Alberta,
as
well
as
National,
chair
of
the
women's
legal
education
action
fund.
Leaf.
Thank
you,
Pat
for
being
here
as
well.
Dana
barish
your
guest,
please
rise
and
receive
our
warm
welcome.
K
You
Mr
Speaker
I
Rise,
to
introduce
to
you
and
through
you
to
the
assembly
of
the
amazing
people
from
Team
Lethbridge
team
Lethbridge
is
a
group
of
community
leaders
and
organizations
raising
awareness
about
the
city
of
lethbridge's,
tremendous
contributions
to
the
province
and
how
government
Representatives
can
work
with
them
to
support
long-term
success
for
all
of
Alberta
I.
Ask
that
everyone
please
give
them
the
warm
welcome
of
the
assembly.
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Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker.
Today,
I
would
like
to
welcome
provincial
representatives
from
the
schizophrenia
Society
of
Alberta.
Many
of
us
know,
friends
and
families
impacted
by
schizophrenia.
The
society
operates
across
Alberta,
supporting
individuals
living
with
schizophrenia
and
their
families.
Please
rise
and
receive
a
warm
welcome.
M
Swami
Maharaja
followed
a
spiritual
path
from
an
early
age
seeking
Purity
renouncing
material
possessions,
processing,
humility,
seamlessness
and
a
desire
to
help
the
people
around
him
and
whereas
his
Holiness
Swami
Maharaja
spread
his
unique
message
to
the
old
saying
that
in
the
joy
of
others,
lies
of
our
own
wash
that
with
thoughtful,
meaningful
and
consoling.
Coming
from
a
deep
of
profound
experience
and
deep
compassion
and
awareness.
M
When
individuals
who
have
contributed
to
the
benefit
of
their
community
and
the
people
around
them
in
moral,
ethical
and
spiritual
matters,
and
have
done
so
without
asking
for
personal
gain,
therefore,
on
behalf
of
minister
of
multicolored
culturalism
I
have
hereby
declare
December
7
2022
a
day
in
commemoration
of
the
100th
birthday
of
pramukh
Swami
Maharaj.
Thank
you.
Mr
Speaker,
The
Honorable
member
for
Edmonton
gold
bar.
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Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
it's
my
pleasure
to
rise
today
and
honor
the
life
of
Sebastian
heenskirk,
who
tragically
passed
away
on
June,
2nd
2021
in
Grand
Prairie
due
to
the
drug
poisoning
crisis.
Many
Sebastian's,
family,
friends
and
people
supporting
his
family
are
in
the
gallery
today,
because
Sebastian's
older
sister
Avalon
has
been
collecting
signatures
for
a
petition
to
urge
the
government
to
declare
a
state
of
Public
Health
Emergency
in
response
to
the
ongoing
opioid
crisis
and
to
seek
possible
solutions
through
increased
Alberta
Health
and
Social
programs.
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Assistance,
along
with
the
public
awareness
campaign,
I,
will
be
presenting
this
petition
later,
which
has
over
a
thousand
signatures,
many
of
them
from
Northern
Alberta
near
Grand
Prairie.
This
call
for
Action
is
purposely
broad
so
that
it
can
have
broad
support.
It's
no
secret
that
the
opposition
in
government
have
disagreements
on
this
topic,
but
I
hope.
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The
Mandate
letter
from
the
premier
to
the
new
minister
of
mental
health
and
addictions
don't
mention
either,
which
is
a
significant
policy
Gap
in
the
response
to
this
emergency.
Those
who
join
me
today
in
the
gallery
have
made
significant
efforts
to
reach
out
to
this
government
to
share
their
experiences
and
advocate
for
Solutions.
G
I
really
hope
that
the
members
who
represent
Grand
Prairie
and
the
minister
of
mental
health
and
addictions
can
connect
with
them
and
make
time
to
meet
I'm
honored
to
have
met
the
Haines
Kirk
family
and
inspired
by
their
advocacy,
so
that
less
people
will
die
preventable
deaths
in
the
midst
of
this
opioid
crisis.
I
hope
all
members
in
this
chamber
feel
that
inspiration
as
well.
Thank
you.
L
You
Mr
Speaker
Alberta
is
a
young
most
prosperous
province
each
year.
Cpp
contributions
by
Alberta
businesses
and
workers
will
exceed
benefits
to
retirees
by
over
4
billion.
Since
2019
Trudeau
has
been
jacking
up
the
CPP
over
36
percent,
forcing
Alberta
businesses
and
workers
to
disproportionately
pay
for
his
tax
increase,
but
Mr
Speaker.
What
about
inflation?
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Cpp
costs
exploded
more
than
10
percent.
From
last
year.
Next
year,
CPP
maximum
will
increase
seven
percent
more
to
seventy
five
hundred
dollars
for
each
Alberta,
employee
Mr
Speaker.
Do
we
want
to
get
serious
about
confronting
affordability
for
out
of
control
inflation
on
a
federal
program
under
an
Alberta
pension
plan?
Each
year,
contribution
costs
for
each
Alberta
worker
of
an
Alberta
business
can
be
thousands
lower.
That
is
the
truth.
L
L
The
great
thing
about
this
opportunity
is
that
there
is
no
net
cost
to
Alberta.
It
is
paid
by
avoiding
transferring
billions
every
Year
to
everyone
else.
Trudeau
and
the
NDP
want
to
fear
Monger
about
an
app
hiding
and
distorting
the
truth.
Mr
Speaker,
let's
focus
on
the
truth,
informing
us
with
the
facts.
An
app
is
a
game-changing
competitive,
Advantage,
The.
E
E
Of
the
forsberg
community,
a
rural
crime
investig
invest
sorry
engagement
session
with
an
exceptional
turnout
during
this
session.
Residents
of
the
town
and
surrounding
area
shared
their
experiences
where
they
have
been
robbed
repeatedly.
These
robbery
instances
have
left
community
members
frightened,
and
they
know
the
robbers
are
members
of
their
own
community
and
continue
to
live
amongst
them.
In
one
instance,
a
baby
was
in
the
car
when
it
was
stolen.
Thankfully
the
vehicle
was
returned
and
the
child
unharmed.
E
I
also
heard
several
community
members
share
their
concerns
for
school-aged
students
who
are
afraid
to
walk
to
school.
Given
the
threatening
behavior
of
one
of
the
residents
response
from
local
law
enforcement
is
slow,
leaving
residents
feeling
vulnerable
drug
use
made.
These
perpetrators
is
causing
even
more
concern.
E
Mr
Speaker.
These
folks
are
frightened.
They
are
angry
and
they
are
frustrated.
They've
asked
for
sting
operations,
so
these
perpetrators
can
be
proactively
arrested.
What
is
most
frustrating
for?
Not
only
the
residents
but
the
local
police
is
the
fact
that
one
of
these
criminals,
once
these
criminals
are
arrested,
they
are
turned
loose
again
only
to
reoffend
against
the
same
people
that
they
have
just
robbed
and
threatened.
E
N
Team
Lethbridge
is
working
hard
to
recruit
doctors
to
the
community
and
address
the
health
challenges,
a
task
that
would
be
much
easier
if
the
UCP
government
did
not
declare
war
on
Dockers
during
a
pandemic
and
drive
them
out
of
the
community
for
families
to
move
and
stay
in
Lance
Bridge.
They
need
to
have
certainty.
They
have
access
to
basic
health
care,
those
who
are
trying
to
attract
and
retain
skilled
labor
professionals
or
investment.
Tell
me
lack
of
primary
care
is
one
of
our
biggest
reputational
challenges.
N
Team
Lethbridge
is
also
working
on
affordable
housing
and
Housing
Solutions.
More
generally,
there
is
significant
concern
about
homelessness
and
Public
Safety
and
last
bridge
I
share
those
concerns,
those
organized
these
organizations
are
working
hard
to
create
Solutions.
But
again
there
is
a
missing
partner
at
the
table,
and
that
is
the
UCP
government.
I
will
conclude
with
thoughts
on
the
economy.
Economic
development
has
great
solutions
for
Innovation
investment
and
entrepreneur
support
and
how
to
diversify
our
economy.
N
We
in
the
ntp
opposition
appreciate
this
work
and
have
developed
thoughtful
policy
as
part
of
our
Alberta's
future
initiative,
including
in
areas
of
Agriculture
technology,
energy,
hydrogen,
when
we
were
in
government
Lethbridge
welcomed
over
a
billion
dollars
in
new
private
and
public
sector
investment,
but
with
the
job
killing
sovereignty
acts.
The
UCP
seems
adamant
that
will
not
happen
under
their
watch.
N
I
look
forward
to
what
an
ntp
government
could
do
by
listening
carefully
to
team
Lethbridge
to
create
jobs
in
the
community
and
create
a
more
resilient
economy
for
Alberta's
future,
but
unfortunately
there's
an
empty
seat
around
the
table
and
that's
the
folks
with
the
funding
and
the
ability
to
set
a
strategic
Direction
right
now.
That's
the
UCP
government,
so
with
political
change
in
2023,
we'll
be
able
to
accomplish
so
much
for
team
lotsbridge
and
Southern
Alberta
foreign.
O
Is
a
season
of
giving
and
I
believe
that,
showing
our
gratitude
as
elected
officials
towards
those
who
donate
their
time
and
resources
to
help
albertans
in
need
highlights
the
essential
importance
of
the
non-for-profit
and
charitable
sector
in
our
society?
For
many
albertans,
this
season
will
be
particularly
difficult.
O
The
members
of
this
delegate
delegation
are
committing
to
supporting
the
non-profit
and
charitable
sector.
They
understand
how
crucial
this
sector
is
to
our
Province
and
the
difficult
time
that
they
have
had
over
these
last
two
years
and
with
the
affordability
crisis,
to
keep
the
doors
open.
These
non-profits
need
to
hear
from
elected
representatives
and
know
that
we
care
and
desire
the
flourishing
sector
of
that
part
of
our
economy
and
the
services
they
provide.
O
That
is
why,
in
part,
why
I
introduced
Bill
202,
with
the
hope
that
incentivizing,
more
charitable
gifts
and
donations
can
bolster
a
tax
credit,
incentivize,
more
albertans,
to
give
and
moral
burdens
to
give
more
deeply
I'm
deeply
humbled
by
the
support
of
many
different
folks
in
this
sector,
with
the
bill
that
we're
bringing
forward-
and
hopefully
we
can
pass
it
in
this
chamber
sooner
rather
than
later.
Anything
we
can
do
is
elected
representatives
support
these
institutions
must
be
pursued.
The
charity
of
virtue
is
essential.
It's
the
watermark
of
our
Province.
O
P
Paul,
thank
you.
Mr
Speaker,
well,
Mr,
Speaker
Christmas
is
only
18
days
away.
It's
been
a
tough
year
for
many
families.
Inflation
is
at
an
all-time
high.
The
cost
of
living
and
raising
a
family
is
through
the
roof
demands
on
our
food
banks.
This
year
are
at
some
of
the
highest
levels
ever
seen.
Our
government
recognizes
the
Fantastic
work
that
our
local
food
banks
do
all
year.
P
Every
year
we
have
increased
funding
to
support
our
food
banks,
so
they
can
help
more
Alberta
families
get
through
these
tough
times
of
high
inflation
and
uncertainty,
our
local
communities,
businesses,
schools
and,
most
importantly,
our
grocery
store
owners
have
stepped
up
recognizing
the
need
and
the
great
value
our
food
banks
provide,
but
Mr
Speaker.
We
recently
discovered
that
with
Christmas
just
around
the
corner,
the
Grinch
is
alive
and
well
and
working
for
the
Canadian
Revenue
Agency
in
Ottawa.
P
The
CRA
last
week
sent
a
notice
to
one
of
my
local
food
banks
that,
due
to
a
filing
issue,
they
would
be
shutting
that
food
bank
down
on
December
16th
just
nine
days
before
Christmas
Mr
Speaker.
You
would
have
to
be
as
cuddly
as
a
cactus
and
have
garlic
in
your
soul
to
do
such
a
thing.
Not
only
would
your
heart
have
to
be
three
sizes
too
small.
Your
brain
would
have
to
be
non-existent.
The
CRA
obviously
needs
to
invest
in
some
calendars
for
their
working
at
home
employees.
P
P
Even
Dr
Seuss
couldn't
make
this
stuff
up
I
reached
out
to
my
local
MP,
because
this
is
a
federal
issue
and
I'd
like
to
thank
MP
Stubbs
and
her
assistant
Tina,
for
helping
me
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
this,
and
at
least
provide
this
group
an
extension
to
get
them
through
the
busiest
season
of
the
year.
I
ask
everybody
in
Alberta
to
please
step
up
and
support
your
local
food
banks,
so
we
can
all
have
a
Merry
Christmas.
Thank
you.
C
Q
Mr
Speaker
today
I
stood
with
the
former
Governor
of
the
Bank
of
Canada
Mr
David
Dodge
Mr
Dodge,
very
articulately,
impressed
upon
albertans
how
the
Primus
sovereignty
act
amended
or
not
will
harm
our
economy.
He
said
it
sends
an
international
signal
that
investing
Capital
dollars
in
Alberta
carries
greater
risk
than
other
jurisdictions
in
a
world
where
Capital
moves
fast
and
certainty
is
a
fundamental
requirement
to
build
big
projects.
Alberta
will
fall
behind.
So
will
the
premier
admit
that
her
bill
is
a
threat
to
Alberta's
prosperity
and
withdraw
it
The
Honorable.
R
The
premiere
thank
you
Mr
Speaker,
so
let
me
get
this
straight.
We
have
a
liberal
appointee
to
the
Bank
of
Canada,
who
is
not
even
from
Alberta,
who
didn't
read
the
bill,
who
didn't
read
the
Amendments
and,
quite
frankly,
the
Bank
of
Canada
increased
interest
rates,
0.5
percent
again
today,
which
actually
has
a
dampening
effect
on
investment
coming
to
Alberta,
to
tell
us
how
to
run
our
Affairs.
You.
R
Q
Well,
Mr
Speaker,
Mr
Dodge
served
numerous
conservative
governments,
including
that
of
former
Prime
Minister
Stephen
Harper.
Now
he
explained
how
this
act
fails
to
meet
the
challenges
of
a
modern
economy,
including
changes
to
technology
and
business
practices,
quote
whatever
its
final
form.
The
ACT
is
a
signal
to
the
world
that
we
don't
know
what
we're
doing,
and
if
we
can't
get
the
fundamentals
right,
investors
will
look
elsewhere
and
quote.
Why
won't
the
premier
admit
that
she
doesn't
know
what
she's
doing
and
that
her
bill
is
simply
Beyond
savings.
R
Her
comment
that
cap
opposed
this
bill
because
they
contacted
my
office
and
told
me
that
was
not
the
case
that
they
neither
supported
nor
rejected
the
bill
and
they've
asked
the
NDP
to
retract
their
statement
on
that
I'd
be
happy
to
share
with
you
the
email
from
them,
but
in
fact,
I
can
tell
you
what
I'm
seeing
with
the
oil
sands
producers
today
Canada
oil
sands
producers
are
set
to
open
their
wallets
and
direct
more
Capital
toward
their
growth
plans
in
2023.
After.
A
R
Q
Well,
Mr
Speaker.
We
know
that
neither
cap
nor
the
Calgary
Herald,
where
those
comments
were
reported,
have
retracted
the
statements
and
the
premier
should
stop
suggesting
otherwise
on
Twitter.
It
does
not
help
her
credibility.
Meanwhile,
we
have
so
many
folks
who
are
outlining
that
her
bill
undermines
the
rule
of
law,
creates
a
constitutional
crisis
chases
away
investment
makes
inflation
last
longer,
kills
jobs
and
divides
Canadians
against
their
Province.
Will
the
premier
admit
she
is
more
concerned
with
catering
to
her
base
than
protecting
or
heaven
forbid,
growing
investment
in
Alberta
The
Honorable,
the
premier?
Q
R
Me
continue
in
telling
you
what
exactly
the
oil
sands
companies
are
doing.
Over
the
past
week,
four
of
the
country's
largest
oil
sense
producers
have
unveiled
bigger,
Capital
programs
for
2023,
with
Synovus
energy,
announcing
Tuesday.
It
will
spend
between
4
billion
and
4.5
billion
this
year.
That's
four
oil
sands
companies
within
the
last
week.
In
fact,
when
Astra
about
the
sovereignty
act,
Alex
porbe,
he
is
the
president
and
CEO
of
Synovus,
said
I
suspect
those
initial
comments
about
the
bill
were
directed
at
ensuring
legislation
maintains
investor
confidence.
Q
Q
Is
expected,
it
will
pass
with
Fierce
support
she's
from
both
Alberta
and
Saskatchewan
are
rightfully
protecting
their
treaty
rights,
which
they
assert
are
under
threat
because
of
this
Premier.
The
premier
can
deny
it
all
she
wants,
but
this
government
has
done
zero
consultation
with
indigenous
communities
on
these
managers.
None
zip
zilch.
Will
she
apologize
and
withdraw
her
bill?
The
Honorable,
the
premiere.
R
Mr
Speaker
I
asked
Chief
billing
Morin
to
be
my
advisor
on
my
transition
team
and
all
the
way.
Through
this
process.
He
has
been
giving
me
feedback
as
part
of
the
reason
why
asserting
the
rights
of
the
our
indigenous
communities
is
Central
to
the
to
the
legislation.
It's
right
there
in
the
opening
statements
of
it.
We
recognize
the
treaty
rights
of
our
first
Nations
and
in
fact
we
have
done
so
much
to
support
true
economic
reconciliation.
R
Q
That's
not
consultation,
Mr
Speaker.
Yesterday,
the
indigenous
relations
Minister
actually
claimed
to
the
media
that
he
spoke
to
the
Chiefs
and
they
want
these
amendments,
but
I
want
the
premier
and
the
minister
to
listen
to
Chief
Tony
Alexis
speaking
on
behalf
of
treaty.
Six
quote:
we
are
not
looking
for
changes
or
amendments
to
this
bill.
We
want
it
with
withdrawn.
It
is
beyond
concerning
that
there
has
been
absolutely
no
consultation
or
dialogue
with
First
Nations
people.
It
displays
a
gross
lack
of
transparency
that
runs
against
the
ideals
of
respectful
relations
and
Reconciliation
to
the
premier.
T
Relations
has
risen
well,
Mr
Speaker.
There
has
been
several
Chiefs
that
have
approached
me
to
looking
at
amendments,
and
that's
all
that
I
said.
Mr
Speaker,
but
I
have
just
wrapped
up
calls
with
Chief
Ivan
Solomon
from
Moon
River
and
chief
Alan
Adam,
and
of
course
they
do
have
concerns
around
this
and
I
have
committed
Mr
Speaker
to
sit
and
talk
with
them
about
their
concerns,
and
this
bill.
Mr
Speaker
contains
explicit
language
surrounding
the
protection
of
treaty
rights
and,
let
me
be
clear,
Mr
Speaker.
Q
Passing
the
bill
today
before
the
premier
speaks
with
the
treaty.
Chiefs,
you
are
infringing
on
their
treaty
rights,
Chief
Darcy
Nixon,
said
quote:
it
is
being
said
that
bill
one
is
just
part
of
a
political
game.
That
may
be
true,
but
we
see
in
it
a
disguised
attempt
to
disregard
treaty.
We
reject
Alberta's
Bill
one
and
find
that
no
amendments
would
be
enough
to
repair
it.
It
must
be
withdrawn.
Can
the
premier
explain
how
irreparably
damaging
Alberta's
relationship
with
indigenous
people
is
somehow
a
strategy
for
job
growth?
R
This
is
what
reconciliation
looks
like,
and
this
is
what
we're
committed
to
is
part
of
the
reason
why
we
put
this
bill
forward.
We
know
that
there
are
a
hundred
First
Nations
that
have
oil
and
gas
development.
We
know
that
they
want
to
work
with
us
on
getting
their
product
to
market.
The
only
way
we
can
make
sure
that
we
get
our
products
to
Market
is
to
make
sure
that
we're
asserting
our
rights
under
the
Constitution.
That's
what
we're
going
to
do.
The.
V
Tony
Alexis
and
chief
Darcy
Dixon
stood
up
today
to
call
on
this
government
to
scrap
their
unconstitutional
sovereignty
act.
Beau
Chiefs
confirmed
that
the
UCP
government
failed
to
uphold
its
legal
duty
to
consult
with
First
Nations
Chief
Tony
Alexis,
said
quote:
we
have
no
had
no
conversations
with
any
Minister.
Only
after
we
did
a
press
conference,
there
was
an
idea
of
consultation,
but
still
to
this
day
there
is
none
to
the
premier.
This
is
her
Flagship
priest
of
legislation
who
is
at
fault
for
not
fulfilling
this
government's
legal
duty
to
consult
her
or
her
minister.
T
Speaker
I
have
met
with
multiple
indigenous
groups
and
have
heard
their
concerns
regarding
this
bill.
Mr
Speaker
that
there
was
not
enough
consultation,
and
that
is
regrettable,
Mr
Speaker,
and
that's
why
I
am
committed
to
continue
to
engage
in
consultation
with
First
Nation
leaders
and
strengthen
our
relationship
with
them,
as
I
met
with
several
indigenous
groups.
C
T
V
From
the
comments
of
the
Alberta
First
Nations
Chief,
it
is
clear
why
they
chose
not
to
consult
Chief
Alexa,
says
quote:
let's
be
honest:
this
all
comes
down
to
land
and
resources.
We
are
yet
again.
The
inconvenient
Indians
standing
in
the
way
of
unprotected
resource
extraction
and
other
exploitation
of
treaty
lands
and
chief
Dixon
says
quote:
this
is
a
warning
to
Canadians.
If
you
care
about
these
lands,
if
you
care
about
your
country,
you
should
care
about
this
bill.
It
is
not
a
First
Nations
issue.
This
impacts
us
all
to
the
premier.
T
V
Not
only
will
the
sovereignty
act,
But,
First,
Nations
inherent
in
treaty
rights
in
Jeopardy
it
will
damage
First,
Nations
ability
to
attract
investment
and
grow
their
economy.
Chief
Alexis
said
quote:
the
ACT
puts
a
lot
of
uncertainty
in
investment.
If
you
have
a
provincial
government
fighting
with
the
federal
government
who
is
not
including
our
first
nation,
it
will
not
be
easy
to
bring
investment
to
this
environment.
It
will
hurt
the
economic
fabric
of
our
Commerce
in
all
regions
to
the
premier.
Indigenous
leaders
are
saying
the
sovereignty
act
will
hurt
indigenous
economic
Prosperity.
V
R
I
I
think
I
would
encourage
the
members
opposite
to
read
my
mandate
letter
to
the
minister
of
indigenous
Affairs
and
my
mandated
letter
to
the
minister
of
children
for
services.
I
have
been
a
supporter
of
Jordan's
principal
from
the
moment
that
it
was
first
declared
that
we
should
be
lending
a
hand
to
our
first
Nations
to
partner
with
them
on
areas
where
we
have
expertise
and
then
work
with
them
on
right.
Economic
reconciliation,
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
doing
that,
The.
W
Mr
Speaker
yesterday,
the
leader
of
the
official
opposition
asked
the
premier
a
simple
question
that
should
have
prompted
a
simple
answer.
We
know
the
premier
fired
Dr,
Hinshaw's,
Alberta's
chief
medical
officer
of
Health.
Now
there
were
two
deputies
in
that
office
as
well.
We've
heard
that
both
have
left
their
roles.
So
can
the
premier
confirm
that
both
deputy
chief
medical
officers
of
Health
are
no
longer
in
their
roles?.
F
You
Mr
Speaker
and
thank
you
to
The
Honorable
member
for
the
question.
Mr
Speaker
I
can
confirm
that
the
two
both
Deputy
chief
medical
officers
of
Health
have
submitted
their
resignation.
They
are
still
contained.
They
are
still
continuing
to
to
work
at
this
point
in
time.
We
are
in
the
process
of
actually
looking
to
fill
those
roles
and
support
Dr
Jaffe
in
terms
of
his
role
as
a
chief
medical
officer
of
Health,
with
all
the
support
that
he
needs
to
be
able
to
fulfill
his
function.
C
W
Thank
you,
Mr
speaker
now,
albertans
are
concerned
about
state
of
health
care
in
our
Province
they're
concerned
about
the
reports
of
day-long
Waits
outside
the
Children's
Hospital
ambulances
that
may
not
ever
arrive
the
sheer
lack
of
information
shared
by
this
government
about
this
crisis,
and
that
list
goes
on
and
on.
The
premier
is
resorted
to
having
their
staff
screen
the
questions
she
gets
at
press
conferences.
W
So
many
albertans
are
looking
to
the
chief
medical
officer
of
Health
who's
now
unsupported
to
provide
an
unbiased
objective,
update
on
widespread
outbreaks
of
illness
that
are
impacting
Alberta
families
and,
namely
Alberta
children.
Can
the
premier
tell
us
why
we
haven't
heard
a
public
briefing
from
the
chief
interim
medical
officer
of
health?
Is
there
a
gag
order
and
is
it
from
her
uncle
minister
of
Health.
C
F
F
Initially,
when
he
first
came
in
a
press
release
was
sent
out
in
regards
to
dealing
with
the
flu
and
Mr
Speaker,
as
I
mentioned
in
this
house
yesterday,
he
provided
a
letter
to
all
parents,
urging
you
know
parents
to
keep
their
children
home
if
they're
sick
from
schools
to
be
able
to
go,
make
the
choice
to
get
vaccine
vaccinated
and
it's
his
Department.
That
is
leading
the
flu
vaccine
awareness
program.
The.
W
A
letter
Mr
Speaker,
we
are
calling
for
a
public
briefing
directly
to
albertans
because
we're
in
a
crisis,
a
crisis
impacting
children,
a
crisis
I
know,
is
terrifying
families
who
are
worried.
They
might
be
left
to
wait
countless
hours
in
an
emergency
room
with
their
sick
child.
Yesterday,
the
premier
was
asked
to
advocate
for
vaccines,
not
mandate
them
simply
advocate
for
people
to
get
their
flu
shot
and
get
their
covid-19
vaccine.
That's
pretty
standard
practice
for
premiers
and
public
officials.
Some
of
the
Premier
just
simply
stand
right.
W
F
F
You
know
we
We
are
continuing
to
make
flu
vaccines
and
coveted
vaccines
available,
urging
individuals
to
make
the
choice
to
get
their
vaccines
done,
as
we
know
that
it
could
help
protect,
protect
themselves
for
the
various
viruses
that
are
circulating
right
now
and-
and
we
are
continuing
to
build
capacity
in
our
entire
Health
Care
system
to
make
sure
albertans
get
the
health
care
where
they
need
it
and
when
they
need
it.
The.
X
You
Mr
Speaker
I've,
been
meeting
with
many
constituents
and
consistently
I
hear
that
their
biggest
concern
is
affordability.
They
often
bring
up
the
fact
that
they
feel
uneasy
when
they
go
to
the
grocery
store,
particularly
because
of
the
amount
they
have
to
spend
for
just
a
few
items.
We
know
this
challenge
is
not
unique
to
our
Province,
but
my
constituents
want
to
know
what
is
Alberta's
government
doing
to
help
alleviate
some
of
the
pressure
being
felt
from
today's
inflation
at
High
Cost
of
Living
The.
Y
You
Mr
Speaker
our
affordability,
action
plan
and
inflation.
Relief
act
provides
up
to
an
estimated
900
or
more
in
broad-based
relief
to
Alberta
households.
This
includes
500
alone
in
electricity
rebates,
hundreds
in
additional
potential
savings
on
gas
and
Diesel
through
fuel
tax
relief
and
continued
natural
gas
price
protection
from
January
to
June
eligible
seniors
and
families
will
receive
targeted
monthly
relief
payments
of
one
hundred
dollars
for
a
total
of
six
hundred
dollars
per
senior
or
child
targeted
relief
payments
will
also
be
made
to
vulnerable
albertans,
collecting,
hpdd
and
income
support.
X
The
cost
of
living,
making
it
difficult
for
many
albertans
to
meet
their
basic
needs,
especially
those
on
fixed
incomes
and
given
that
those
living
with
disabilities,
as
well
as
seniors
and
unemployed
albertans,
rely
on
social
benefit
programs.
Can
the
minister
for
seniors
community
and
social
services?
Please
tell
the
house
what
an
increase
in
age,
seniors
benefits
and
income
support
will
do
to
help
vulnerable
albertans
good.
I
Re-Indexing
H
is
going
to
have
a
huge
impact,
not
not
only
for
today,
with
folks
on
Nation
it'll
be
100
a
month
to
increase
roughly
in
their
payments
for
income
support
roughly
fifty
dollars
a
month.
This
is
going
to
have
an
impact
for
folks
today
to
be
able
to
help,
so
they
don't
get
forced
to
choose
between
meals
and
rent,
but
it's
also
going
to
help
ongoing
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that,
as
the
cost
of
living
goes
up
order.
X
You
Mr
Speaker
and
thank
you
Minister,
given
that
the
affordability
crisis
is
hurting
thousands
of
albertans
and
their
families,
and
the
premier
has
given
direction
to
increase
social
benefit
programs
and
also
to
help
strengthen
Alberta's
Food
Bank
Network.
Can
the
same
Minister
inform
the
house
about
the
other
measures
his
ministry
is
taking
to
respond
to
these
concerns,
specifically
those
of
affordability.
I
Services,
thank
you.
Mr
Speaker,
since
I
was
placed
in
this
portfolio,
I've
been
able
to
meet
with
many
organizations
that
serve
our
most
vulnerable
and
a
big
part
of
what
we're
doing
is
working
alongside
our
Charities
housing
providers
and
others
to
make
sure
that
they're
also
resourced.
We
have
a
major
challenge,
especially
in
our
social
sector
when
it
comes
to
Workforce,
so
right
now,
I'm
working
with
the
sector
to
make
sure
that
we're
addressing
Workforce
challenges,
turnover
to
make
sure
that
those
who
care
for
our
most
vulnerable
are
cared
for.
I
N
Speaker
there's
a
significant
shortage
of
healthcare
capacity
in
Lethbridge,
especially
in
ICU.
Yesterday,
the
minister
of
Health
tried
to
reassure
us
that
the
situation
is
fine,
since
diversions
have
not
started
and
diversions
are
common.
However,
people
in
Lethbridge
are
worried
about.
Where
else
there
is
to
go.
The
Children's
Hospital
in
Calgary
is
stretched
so
thin.
That
services
are
the
Royal
Flames
house
hospice
have
been
closed
and
there
are
dozens
of
Hospital
closures
across
the
province.
N
C
F
Health
in
prison,
well,
thank
you,
Mr
Speaker
and
thanks
to
the
honorable
member
for
the
question
just
to
clarify
in
terms
of
the
comments
made
yesterday.
The
system
is
under
strained,
and
that
includes
the
hospital
in
Lethbridge
and
a
number
of
hospitals
across
our
entire
Health
Care
System
Mr
Speaker.
F
We
know
that
the
number
of
the
challenges
are
brought
in
by
what
we're
experiencing
with
the
flu
RSB
and
covid,
which
is
impacting
not
only
putting
pressures
in
terms
of
more
people
coming
to
the
hospital,
but
also
staff
absenteeism
rates
are
higher,
so
Mr
Speaker.
We
do
have
a
plan
and
we
are
increasing
capacity
across
our
entire
Health
Care
system.
I
was
very
pleased
that
we
actually
added
ICU
capacity
as
part
of
our
plan
for
Budget
2022
50
additional
beds
across
the
entire
system,
of
which
number
of
beds
are
also
in
Lethbridge
and
Mr
Speaker.
F
N
Given
that
beds
are
not
staff,
and
given
that
there
were
no
resources
behind
that
plan
and
given
that
when
I
asked
the
deputy
Premier
to
commit
to
supporting
lethbridge's
Health
Care
System
yesterday,
he
did
not
answer
and
given
that
lethbridge's
ICU
is
at
capacity.
40
000
in
people
in
the
community
do
not
have
a
family
doctor
and
there's
only
one
OB
GYN
to
support
pregnant
women.
Will
the
deputy
Premier
from
West
Virginia's
please
stand
and
commit
to
ensuring
that
this
government's
top
priority
should
be
fixing
Health
Care
in
Lethbridge
and
across
this
province?
F
Mr
Speaker,
one
of
our
government's
top
priorities
is
addressing
health
care
and
Mr
Speaker.
We
are
actually
doing
that
and
the
comments
made
by
the
member
opposite
that
there
are
no
resources
being
put
but
put
towards
us,
is
simply
incorrect.
Mr
Speaker
we've
invested
invested
22
billion
dollars,
Mr
Speaker
the
highest
amount
ever
in
the
province
into
Healthcare
and
by
the
way
Mr
Speaker.
The
response
to
covet
and
the
response
to
getting
caught
up
in
surgeries
is
in
addition
to
22
billion.
F
C
N
Even
Mr
Speaker
that
the
UCP
would
not
even
debate
Bill
201
the
public
health
delivery
standards
act
and
they
refused
to
debate
the
Children's
Health
crisis
twice
all
within
one
week.
Will
the
deputy
Premier
commit
to
an
emergency
debate
about
the
state
of
health
care
in
Lethbridge
today,
and
if
not,
will
he
please
explain
why
Health
Care
in
Lethbridge
is
not
a
priority
for
him?
Why
hasn't
he
answered
a
single
question
about
this
since
becoming
a
minister?
Why
won't
he
defend
Lethbridge.
F
I
would
also
like
to
thank
the
AHS,
the
Chinook
PCN
Community
stakeholders
and
the
members
from
the
City
of
Lethbridge
of
working
collaboratively
with
our
government
to
bring
more
doctors
into
Lethbridge
Mr
Speaker
I
was
very
pleased
to
comment
yesterday,
but
I'll
comment
again
today,
Mr
Speaker,
we
have
17
new
doctors
for
family
doctors
in
the
queue
should
be
working
in
Lethbridge
in
the
coming
weeks.
The.
Z
Albertans
are
facing
an
unprecedented
affordability
crisis:
the
rising
costs
in
groceries,
housing,
Insurance
utilities,
child
care
insurance,
interest
rates.
Education
has
left
most
albertans
struggling
and
living
paycheck
to
paycheck,
while
the
affordability
crisis
impacting
over
4
million
albertans.
This
government's
affordability
plan
leaves
out
half
of
them
without
assent
to
the
Minister
of
Finance.
Why
did
this
government
abandon
abandoned
so
many
albertans
during
this
affordability
crisis.
Z
Broad
and
targeted
missing
half
of
albertans,
given
the
car
insurance
has
shot
up
30
percent
or
more
for
some
albertans,
and
given
that
albertans
rely
on
their
vehicles
to
go
to
and
from
work
pick
up
their
kids
from
school
and
go
to
the
grocery
store,
where
they're
also
getting
hosed
and
given
an
insurance,
lobbyists
have
been
key
campaign
staff
for
the
UCP.
For
as
long
as
I
can
remember,
will
the
minister
admit
he
won't
give
albertans
a
break
on
car
insurance
because
it
would
cut
into
the
profits
made
by
his
wealthy
political
Buddies.
AA
Mr
Speaker
I'm
going
to
remind
this
house
of
two
case
studies.
When
the
NDP
were
in
office,
they
brought
in
a
blunt
rate
cap
to
deal
with
insurance
in
2018
after
they
brought
in
the
rate
cap.
Insurance
premiums
went
up
by
five
percent
Mr
Speaker.
We
brought
in
Bill
41
to
deal
with
the
systemic
issues
that
are
driving
up
premiums,
Mr
Speaker
in
the
last
24.
C
AA
Z
The
members
Sharon
skyrocketed
under
your
watch,
given
the
condo
owners,
form
Society
of
Alberta's,
urged
government
to
open
up
the
regulations
so
that
hundreds
of
thousands
of
condo
owners
that
are
not
eligible
for
the
rebates
might
see
some
support.
Given
that
for
months,
our
caucus
raised
concerns
about
the
situation
which
described
by
condo
owner
Phil
rosensweig
have
created
two
classes
of
condo
owners.
Leaving
quote
many
shocked
and
disappointed.
End
quote:
will
the
minister
correct
this
failure
from
his
predecessor,
so
condo
owners
can
finally
get
some
support.
The.
Y
Y
AB
For
time
and
time
again,
Ottawa
flaunts
its
provincial
biases,
even
now
as
Ottawa
or
as
Alberta
fights
back
against
the
federal
government's
imperious
and
unbalanced
laws
harder
than
ever
Ottawa
still
mocks
us.
The
recent
news
surrounding
Quebec's
special
deal
regarding
carbon
tax
rates
means
they
pay
less
than
any
other
Province
and
that's
blatant.
AA
Of
Finance
in
the
president
of
Treasury
board.
Well,
thank
you.
Mr
Speaker,
the
federal
carbon
tax
is
unfairly
applied
across
the
country
and
Mr
Speaker
during
a
time
of
inflation
is
applied
unfairly
to
every
albertan
and
every
Canadian.
That's
why
Mr
Speaker,
while
we're
providing
tax
relief
in
this
province
to
albertans
we're
calling
on
the
feds
to
suspend
better
yet
eliminate
the
carbon
tax
for
albertans
and
all
Canadians.
C
AC
Well,
thank
you
Mr
Speaker,
and
thank
you
to
The
Honorable
member
for
the
question.
The
federal
government's
preferential
treatment
of
Quebec
is
a
source
of
continued
frustration
for
albertans
we've
seen
billions
of
dollars
of
investment
Chase
from
a
province
because
of
the
federal
government's
policies
only
for
the
same
government
to
turn
around
and
give
handout
after
handout
to
Quebec
and
Albertsons
have
made
it
clear
their
frustration
to
the
federal
government
and
it's
time
that
Alberta
stood
up
to
end
this
unfair
Arrangement
I'm.
AB
A
member
Mr
Speaker,
given
the
fact
that
this
unfair
treatment
is
nothing
new.
It's
a
century
old,
actually
and
given
the
fact
that
this
bias
coming
out
of
Ottawa
continues
to
get
more
and
more
obvious,
and
given
this
government's
commitment
to
ensuring
a
fair
deal
for
Alberta,
despite
the
stubborn
resistance
of
the
Laurentian,
Elite
I
asked
the
government
to
tell
the
house
what
are
we
doing
here
in
Alberta
to
fight
back
against
unbalanced
laws
that
favor
other
provinces
at
our
expense?
The
Minister
of.
AC
Justice
well,
thank
you.
Mr
Speaker,
and
what
we're
not
going
to
do
is
ask
another
person
from
Ottawa
what
we
should
be
thinking
here
in
Alberta
Mr
Speaker,
like
the
NDP
keep
on
doing
last
week.
Our
government
introduced
Bill
one
as
a
way
to
ensure
that
unconstitutional
Federal
overreach
has
an
additional
tool
to
be
addressed
while
we're
here
in
Alberta,
and
we're
not
going
to
allow
the
bureaucrats
in
Ottawa
to
continue
to
interfere
in
our
Affairs.
AD
Mr
Speaker
agriculture
regulations
are
strongly
intertwined
at
both
the
federal
and
provincial
level
from
food
safety,
International
Trade
export
markets
into
provincial
markets
and
the
labor
force
all
are
dependent
on
a
stable
economy
and
a
stable
democracy.
In
fact,
we
have
seen
when
relationships
are
damaged,
how
markets
can
quickly
be
closed
to
our
AG
exports
before
the
minister
of
Agriculture
stands
and
gives
us
some
nonsense
rhetoric?
Can
he
inform
the
house
if
he
assessed
the
potential
economic
impact?
The
agricultural
trade
that
may
occur
when
his
boss,
inevitably
Rams
through
the
job-killing
sovereignty
act.
AE
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Speaker
and
I
would
normally
thank
the
member
for
the
question,
but
that
was
frankly
just
a
terrible
question.
The
the
arms
length,
the
arms
length
agencies
that
the
agriculture
Department
uses
federally
cfia,
pmra
and
health
look
at
look
at
what
we've
had
to
deal
with.
Just
over
the
last
year
front
of
front
of
package
labeling
on
our
ground,
beef
products,
the
Banning,
the
Banning
of
common
products
needed
to
control
insects
to
control
fungicide
in
our
inner
row,
cropping.
D
AE
The
irrigation
Mr
Speaker
come
on,
come
through
you
to
her,
come
on,
there's
only
one
order
of
government
that
is
jeopardizing
this
province's
agricultural
reputation.
We
punch
above
our
weight
we
produce
more
than
we
can
consume.
We
are
a
proud
exporter.
Countries
and
companies
come
to
Alberta
saying
how
can
I
get
more,
not.
A
AD
Well,
Kevin
again,
most
of
that
funding
comes
from
the
federal
government
and
given
that
no
one
in
the
government
cabinet
can
get
it
straight
on
what
the
job-killing
sovereignty
act
actually
does
and
given
that
the
political
climate
shift
in
the
past
has
led
to
the
closure
of
critical
export
markets
in
China
and
India.
Can
the
minister
inform
this
house
if
he
has
talked
to
our
International
offices
and
apologized
them
for
this
disastrous
mess
that
they're,
causing
with
our
International
Partners
The.
AE
Affordable
carbon
tax,
that's
going
to
a
hundred
and
seventy
dollars
that
they
continue
to
support
phone.
The
mothership
phone
Jag
made
saying
say:
we've
had
a
change
of
heart,
all
I.
All
that
all
that
we
know
is
that
Alberta's
punching
above
its
weight
will
continue
to
we're
creating
jobs,
we're
bringing
investment,
we're
leading
the
country,
we're
leading
the
world
foreign.
AF
Struggling
right
now,
with
the
cost
of
living
crisis
that
is
making
it
harder
for
families
to
put
food
on
the
table,
keep
the
lights
on
and
Heat
their
homes
and
I
want
to.
Firstly,
thank
the
volunteers
and
staff
of
Alberta's
non-profits,
who
every
day
go
above
and
beyond,
to
serve
the
less
fortunate.
The
very
last
thing
that
these
organizations
need,
though
Mr
Speaker,
is
the
uncertainty
and
Chaos
caused
by
this
government's
job-killing
sovereignty
act.
AF
I
And
community
and
Social
Services.
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
and
thank
you,
the
member
for
that
question.
I'm,
so
thankful
for
Alberta's
not-for-profits
and
the
incredible
work
that
they
do
in
our
community
they're
key
as
well
as
the
not
just
the
employees,
but
the
people
who
volunteer
the
the
people
that
donate
and
are
involved
with
that
they're
so
critical
to
our
community.
So
this
government
will
continue
to
work
with
and
support
partner
with
our
not-for-profits
to
make
sure
that
they
have
the
resources
and
the
tools
to
do
the
amazing
work.
AF
We
know
that
many
non-profits
rely
on
funding
from
the
other
levels
of
government
funds.
I
might
add
that
often
offset
the
horrifying
Cuts
imposed
by
the
UCP
government
and,
given
that
we
know
that
the
City
of
Calgary
is
concerned
with
the
prospect
of
what
the
job-killing
sovereignty
act
could
mean
for
its
affordable
housing
strategy.
Will
the
minister
commit
to
backfilling
any
loss,
funding
and
investment
that
the
sovereignty
act
could
drive
from
Alberta's
nonprofits,
or
does
he
wash
his
hands
of
any
responsibility
for
the
consequences
of
his
actions?.
I
Seniors
and
community
and
Social
Services.
Thank
you.
Mr
Speaker
I
am
pleased
to
to
say
that
this
that's
not
what
this
bill
is
about.
This
bill
does
not
put
at
risk
the
federal
funding
this
this
bill
is
about
protecting
albertans,
defending
albertans
and
making
sure
that
the
federal
government
does
stay
in
its
Lane.
I
In
regards
to
the
federal
funding,
because
I've
heard
a
few
comments
over
the
the
past
couple
weeks
about
us
us
not
taking
full
advantage
of
the
federal
funding
and
I'm
happy
to
set
the
record
straight,
we
are
using
every
single
federal
dollar
available
for
us
as
we
speak,
and
we
will
continue
to
work
with
our
federal
Partners
as
well
as
as
well
as
provinces
across
this
country.
To
make
sure
our
federal
strategy
matches
The.
AF
Given
that
we
know
that
the
premier
has
directed
her
ministers
to
call
organizations
to
threaten
their
funding
when
they
do
things
that
the
premier
doesn't
agree
with,
including
protecting
their
workers
and
given
the
list
of
activities
that
this
Premier
disagrees
with,
runs
large
and
she's
made
it
clear,
she's,
gotten
no
qualms
threatening
to
withhold,
grant
funding
as
a
punishment,
a
threat
that
is
only
intensified
with
undemocratic
powers.
She's
trying
to
give
herself
with
the
sovereignty
act.
AF
AG
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker.
Let
me
get
the
records
straight
here,
not
only
we
defend
for
Alberta's
interests,
but
we
also
collaborate
with
additional
resources
that
federal
government
can
provide
for
us.
Mr
Speaker
I
want
for
this
National
Conference
for
territory,
provincial
and
federal
ministers.
Let
me
tell
you
this
I've,
given
them
credit
that
we
had
a
very
candid
dialogue,
not
only
they
support
local
priorities.
They
also
have
additional
resources
coming
to
us
I'm,
looking
forward
to
have
more
resources
coming
to
Alberta.
AH
You
Mr
Speaker.
A
lot
of
time
has
passed
since
the
expansion
of
Deerfoot
Trail
has
been
needed.
I
know
many
constituents
of
Calgary
Hayes
are
tired
of
the
long
commute
on
a
road
that
should
be
four
lanes,
but
in
some
places
gets
choked
down
to
two
lanes.
This
causes
unneeded
backups
and
delays
to
the
minister
of
Transportation.
When
will
we
be
seeing
smoke
and
dust
fly
on
this
project?
Which
means
when
will
construction,
Begin,
The.
B
B
Both
sides
going
north
and
south
there'll
be
seven
new
Bridges
there'll
be
seven
new
kilometers
of
lanes
in
Calgary
and
this
that's
just
this
government
helping
calgarians
just
improve
their
life
just
a
little
bit
better
by
being
able
to
get
home,
15
minutes
faster
or
15
percent
faster,
going
home
in
the
morning
or
at
night.
Sorry,
and
then
22
percent
The.
AH
Was
a
good
answer
Minister
now,
given
the
conditions
on
Deerfoot
Trail
that
I've
been
hearing
the
very
most
about
is
the
section
between
Anderson,
Road
and
Glenmore
Trail,
and
given
that
these
concerns
not
only
include
the
backups
and
delays
but
the
real
safety
hazards,
especially
during
the
winter,
to
the
minister.
What
can
be
done
right
now
to
improve
the
safety
on
this
particular
section
of
Deerfoot?
That
I
think
we
all
agree
needs
help.
The.
B
Member
happy
to
show
that
or
to
say
that
180
000,
calgarians
or
Vehicles
pass
through
this
area
every
day
and
that's
something
that
we
provide
about
nine
million
dollars
in
Winter
maintenance
that
it's
been
allocated
to
the
Deerfoot
and
CarMax.
The
maintenance
contractor
for
Deerfoot
works
hard
all
winter
to
ensure
that
snow
and
ice
is
plowed
and
that
the
Deerfoot
is
safe
for
winter
driving
for
calgarians
and
all
albertans
that
drive
on
the
deer
foot.
AH
You
Mr
speaker
now
the
minutes,
given
that
the
minister
has
just
confirmed
that
this
project
is
going
to
go
ahead
and
given
that
this
expansion
will
benefit
hundreds
of
thousands
of
calgarians
and
visitors
to
Calgary
every
single
day
to
the
minister.
This
is
the
question
people
want
to
know,
despite
your
previous
answer,
and
on
top
of
that,
when
will
construction
be
complete
to
the
point
where
albertans
will
be
able
to
enjoy
the
newly
repaired
and
expanded
Deerfoot
Trail
The.
B
B
But
let's
just
contrast
that
Mr
Speaker
with
how
the
NDP
views
provincial
construction
projects
they
want
to
bring
in
restrictive
contract
Arrangements,
just
to
start
a
labor
war
in
Alberta,
just
to
appease
their
big
union
bosses
and
we've
seen
what
that
has
done
in
BC
with
the
NDP
that
has
about
20
to
30
percent,
higher
construction
costs,
longer
construction
delays
and
fewer
bidders
on
projects
in
the
province.
That's
something
we'll
never
see
here
in
Alberta
with
iska.
AI
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker
Mr
Union
at
the
University
of
Calgary,
recently
forced
Administration
to
delay
voting
on
a
fourth
consecutive
tuition
fee
increase
the
university
had
failed
to
consult
with
students
or
even
make
them
aware
of
the
coming
tuition
and
fee
increases.
Once
student
leaders
were
finally
made
aware
of
the
tuition
proposal,
one
of
the
administrators
said
that
the
university
is
not
obligated
to
consult
students.
This
Minister
must
set
and
enforce
standards
for
tuition
consultation.
Has
the
minister
spoken
to
the
UFC
to
compel
them
to
consult
and
come
clean
on
what
is
driving?
AJ
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
and
thank
you
to
the
member
for
the
question.
Of
course,
tuition
increases
are
a
matter
that
is
within
the
purview
of
the
Board
of
Governors
for
them
to
consider,
and
of
course
it
is
the
expectation
of
government,
but
apart
from
just
an
expectation,
it's
actually
enshrined
in
regulation
that
the
university
has
an
obligation
to
to
consult
with
students.
I
met
just
as
recently
as
this
morning
with
the
students
union
from
the
University
of
Calgary
to
get
a
better
understanding
of
what
more
robust
consultation
can
look
like.
AI
Well,
Mr
Speaker,
given,
according
to
the
Alberta
tuition
and
fees
regulation,
post-secondary
institutions
are
required
to
provide
a
four-year
tuition,
Outlook
and
specific
information
of
where
their
student
fees
go,
especially
when
this
government
has
been
jacking
those
fees
up
so
much
given
it
wasn't
until
the
Student
Union
went
to
the
media
that
the
university
hastily
provided
some
information.
It
was
your
unprecedented
cuts
that
forced
these
record
increases.
How
can
students
be
expected
to
keep
up
with
the
impact
of
ever
increasing
costs
to
their
ability
to
get
an
education
here
in
the
province
of
Alberta.
AJ
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker.
There
continues
to
remain
a
cap
on
the
maximum
allowable
tuition
increases
that
cap
of
course
exists
in
legislation.
In
addition,
as
I
mentioned
a
moment
ago,
all
universities
and
and
colleges
have
an
obligation
which
is
enshrined
in
regulation
to
consult
with
student
associations
and
student
bodies,
I'm
happy
to
continue
to
consult
and
work
with
student
leaders
to
see,
if
there's
more,
that
we
can
do
from
a
government
standpoint
to
make
those
requirements
around
student
consultation
a
little
bit
more
robust
and
clear.
It's
important
that
students
are
involved
in
that
decision.
AJ
AI
Mr
Speaker,
given
that
tuition
hikes
are
sadly
a
constant
under
this
UCP
government
and
this
Minister
and
given
that
they
come
as
a
direct
result
of
generational
cuts
to
post-secondary
funding
by
this
UCP
government,
given
as
well
that
this
Minister
has
failed
to
stand
up
for
students
an
affordable,
post-secondary
education
during
his
entire
tenure
in
office.
Can
the
minister
now
tell
the
house
what
will
it
take
for
him
to
do
his
job
and
build
a
coherent
plan
and
stop
jacking
up
fees
for
Alberta
students?
The
minister.
AJ
Well,
Mr
Speaker.
We
have
a
coherent
plan,
we've
developed
for
the
first
time
in
over
a
decade,
a
10-year
strategic
plan
for
post-secondary
Education,
something
that
never
existed
when
the
members
opposite
were
in
government
Mr,
chair,
Mr,
Speaker,
I'm
happy
as
I
mentioned,
to
consult
regularly
with
our
student
leaders
as
I
did
as
recently
as
this
morning
and
yesterday
as
well
to
find
out
what
more
there
is
that
government
can
do
to
help
and
support
students.
I
call
on
the
members
opposite,
though,
to.
AK
Help
take
out
Children
and
Youth
who
receive
child
intervention
services
within
the
last
two
years
has
died.
56.
this
year
is
on
track
to
be
much
worse
than
even
last
year,
which
was
horrific
in
the
same
period.
The
UCP
has
had
three
different
children
services
ministers,
but
despite
years
of
alarms
being
raised
by
Frontline
workers,
the
child
and
youth
Advocate
and
the
opposition
outcomes
for
Children
and
Youth
in
Alberta
are
getting
worse.
AK
AK
AL
Minister
of
children's
services,
thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Speaker,
the
death
of
any
young
person
is
a
terrible
tragedy
in
our
hearts.
Go
out
to
any
of
the
families
grieving.
These
losses.
I
am
proud
of
the
work
that
the
office
of
the
child
and
youth
Advocate
is
doing,
and
I
am
certainly
committed
to
implementing
all
of
the
recommendations
in
those
reports.
We
are
pleased
to
report
that
the
vast
majority
of
those
recommendations
have
been
implemented,
and
many
more
are
simply
awaiting
confirmation
from
our
good
answer.
President.
AM
Addictions,
thank
you
Mr
Speaker,
for
the
question
we
have
heard
from
many
professionals
that,
of
course,
improving
mental
well
mental
health
Wellness
is,
of
course,
a
top
priority
for
our
government
with
regards
to
the
opioid
crisis
and
the
addictions
crisis
that
we
are
facing,
our
jurisdiction
is
no
different
than
the
other
jurisdictions
across
Canada.
We
are
working
with
Professionals
in
order
to
build
out
a
recovery-oriented
system
of
care
and
focusing
on
ensuring
that
all
kids,
all
individuals
who
are
looking
for
the
sports
they
need,
can
get
them
The.
C
AL
Children
Services
very
much
Mr,
Speaker
I.
Don't
think
that
the
honorable
member
heard
any
of
the
responses
from
this
side
of
the
house
when
we
gave
those
answers
earlier,
we're
absolutely
committed
to
not
only
the
safety
but
the
well-being
of
children
in
this
province
and
as
long
as
I'm
minister
of
children
and
Services
I
will
make
that
my
absolute
number
one
priority,
no
mandate
bullet
point
needed.
Thank
you.
S
You
Mr
speakers
across
my
ridings
for
well.
Over
a
month
now,
appearances
have
been
trying
to
deal
with
the
growing
shortages
or
children's
and
medications
like
Thailand
and
then
Advils
late
last
month,
over
1
million
those
days
of
medicines
arrived
for
all
over
Canada,
with
the
only
effort
of
500
expectors
within
the
coming
weeks.
In
late
of
that
to
the
minister
of
Health,
can
you
confirm
that
U.S
has
secured
that
five
times
what
the
order
was
could
find
and
at
that
5
million?
F
Yourself,
Mr
Speaker,
and
thank
you
to
The
Honorable
member
for
the
question.
Mr
Speaker
I'm
happy
to
confirm
that
we
are
securing
5
million
doses
of
acetaminophen
and
ibuprofen
from
adibe
Pharmaceuticals,
currently
we're
in
the
midst
of
Health
Canada's,
expedited
approval
process
to
allow
adibe
to
send
us
the
ten
shipments
of
the
children's
medication.
This
process
is
expected
to
take
two
to
four
weeks
and
I'm
thankful
to
the
health
Canada
and
the
federal
government
for
Expediting
it
once
Health.
Canada
gives
her
final
approvals.
F
S
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker
to
the
ministers,
given
the
person
A
desperate
from
the
medications,
but
I
want
the
insurance
that
the
qualities
of
this
medicines
and
the
entirely
safe
and
given
you
found
it
a
source
from
a
board
against
to
the
same
Minister.
Can
you
ensure
that
Perez,
that
is
a
medication,
is
as
good
as
any
genetic
medication
that
would
give
to
the
sick
children,
The.
F
Minister
of
Health,
thanks
again
to
The
Honorable
member
Mr,
Speaker
and
yes,
I'm,
happy
to
assure
reassure
the
member
this
house
and
all
Alberta
parents
that
the
medication
that
we
are
securing
is
held
to
the
same
high
standards
as
all
medication
in
Canada,
Mr
Speaker.
What
we're
doing
with
these
five
million
bottles
of
children?
Medication
is
answering
a
need
for
albertans
and
we
made
sure
that
we
have
both
the
quantity
and
the
quality
for
those
shipments
of
medication.
F
S
Business
speakers
and
thank
you
to
the
ministers,
given
that
the
neighbor
of
this
year's
Canada's
premiers
called
up
for
the
premier,
the
minister,
that
to
provide
the
predictable
and
sustainable,
fragile,
Health
Care's
funding
and
that,
as
with
the
Children's
Tylenol,
and
give
it
a
prime
minister
that
did
a
very
intuitively
responding
to
this
cause
against
to
the
same
ministers.
What
is
the
government
of
Alberta
doing
to
provide
predictable
and
sustainable
funding
to
our
health
care?
System?
The.
F
F
We've
ever
seen
with
commitment
to
increase
more
we're
working
with
my
colleagues
in
other
provinces
and
territories,
who
are
doing
the
same
thing
to
responding
to
the
challenges
that
are
being
faced
quite
frankly
across
the
country
and
asking
the
federal
government
to
step
up
to
do
their
share
to
be
able
to
provide
funding
to
assist
our
Pro,
our
ability
in
all
provinces
to
deliver
the
health
care
that
Canadians
deserve.
Honorable.
C
A
G
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker
I'm
pleased
to
rise
and
present
a
petition
with
a
total
of
1068
signatures.
This
the
signatories
petition
the
legislative
assembly
to
urge
the
government
to
declare
state
of
Public
Health
Emergency
in
response
to
the
ongoing
opioid
crisis
and
to
seek
possible
solutions
through
increased
Alberta,
Health
and
Social
programs
assistance
along
with
the
public
awareness
campaign.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Speaker.
Y
You
Mr
Speaker
I
request
leave
to
introduce
Bill
to
the
inflation
relief
statutes.
Amendment
act
2022.
this
being
a
money
Bill,
her
honor,
The
Honorable,
the
lieutenant
governor
having
been
informed
of
the
contents
of
the
bill,
recommends
the
same
to
the
assembly.
Our
province's
economy
has
recovered
strongly,
yet
albertans
are
struggling
under
record
inflation
and
High
Cost
of
Living
to
make
ends
meet.
Y
Families
are
eating
less
and
less
nutritious
food
and
wondering
if
they
can
keep
their
children
in
activities
seniors
in
vulnerable
albertans
generally
on
lower
and
often
fixed
incomes
are
being
forced
to
make
increasingly
difficult
budget
decisions.
Inflation
is
causing
Alberta's
hardship
across
the
board.
They
feel
it
in
their
groceries,
Gas,
Utilities
and
more.
We
are
experiencing
an
affordability
crisis,
providing
relief
from
Runaway
inflation
is
a
top
priority,
not
just
for
this
government
but
but
for
all
albertans.
That's
why
we
are
providing
the
largest
relief
package
in
Canada,
enabled
through
this
legislation
and
supporting
regulations.
Y
If
passed,
this
bill
will
enable
us
to
deliver
both
broad-based
cost
of
living,
supports
and
targeted
relief
for
families
seniors
and
our
most
vulnerable
when
and
where
they
need
it.
This
legislation
will
also
provide
utility
relief,
protection
and
stability.
This
winter
it
will
index
the
Alberta
child
and
family
benefit
and
personal
income
taxes
and
suspend
the
full
provincial
fuel
tax
from
January
to
June
next
year.
In
short,
this
bill
provides
real
relief.
C
For
the
honorable,
the
honor
of
affordabilities
and
utilities,
minister
of
Justice's,
introduction
of
a
bill
yesterday
for
future
introductions.
The
Honorable,
minister
of
affordability
and
utilities,
has
moved
first
reading
of
second
of
Bill
to
inflation
relief,
statutes,
Amendment
act,
2022
all
those
in
favor
of
the
motion,
please
say
aye
any
opposed.
Please
say
no,
in
my
opinion,
the
eyes
have
it
that
motion
is
carried
and
so
ordered
Bill.
D
AN
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
in
accordance
with
Section
1905
of
the
auditor
general
act
as
chair
of
the
standing
committee
on
legislative
offices.
I
am
pleased
to
table
the
report
of
the
auditor
general
of
Alberta,
November
2022
and
just
for
everybody's.
No
electronic
copies
of
this
report
will
be
provided
to
all
members.
V
AO
AP
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
Senator
rise
about
a
point
of
order
today
is
called
against
the
leader
of
the
opposition.
While
she
was
asking
a
question
to
The
Honorable
premier
at
the
time
mentioned
by
you,
Mr
Speaker,
it
says
by
passing
the
bill
today
before
the
premier
speaks
the
treaty
Chiefs
are
infringing
on
their
treaty
rights,
Mr
Speaker.
It
is
a
contempt
of
House
of
Commons
procedure
in
practice
to
presuppose
the
outcome
of
a
bill
I'm,
not
sure
why
the
member
opposite
would
do
such
a
thing.
This
is
not
her.
AP
First
kick
at
the
can
not
for
her
first
rodeo
I
would
ask
that
going
forward.
The
member
office,
the
leader
of
the
opposition,
refrain
from
presupposing
the
outcome
of
bills
in
this
chamber
and
allow
us,
as
members
of
the
legislative
assembly,
to
do
our
job,
robustly
debate
these
bills
and
vote
in
them
according
to
the
will
of
our
constituents
and
what's
best
for
Robert,
the
opposition.
AQ
House
leader,
very
much
Mr
Speaker,
Mr
Speaker,
the
the
government
house
leader,
is
not
sure
why
the
the
leader
of
the
official
opposition
may
make
such
a
statement
when
on
Monday
they
introduced
a
closure
motion,
a
Time
allocation
motion
and
they
used
it
on
Tuesday
and
on
Tuesday
they
introduced
two
more
time
allegation
motions,
they're,
probably
going
to
use
those
today.
That
is
the
the
thought
thinking.
That
is
the
pattern
we've
seen
from
this
government.
AQ
That
being
said,
conversations
about
this
topic
which
at
the
moment
at
the
time
of
this
point
of
order,
we
were
debating
the
sovereignty
act,
putting
First
Nation
inherent
in
treaty
rights
and
Jeopardy,
as
well
as
damaging
First
Nations
ability
to
attract
investment,
I
believe
tempers
were
hot.
Certainly,
we
would
not
want
to
presuppose
the
actions
of
this
government.
That
being
said,
I
think
we
can
all
guess.
What's
about
to
happen,
we
certainly
would
be
happy
to
withdraw
the
comments
if
the
speaker
would
so
like
us
to
do
so.
C
C
Requirements
with
respect
to
privilege
in
terms
of
showing
documents
that
are
the
assemblies
or
advertising
outside
of
the
assembly,
that
would
presuppose
a
decision
inside
the
assembly
I'm
not
sure
that
they're
that
that
a
member
can't
opine
upon
what
the
assembly
may
or
may
not
do.
Of
course,
it
would
be
inappropriate
of
the
speaker
to
presuppose
a
decision
of
the
assembly
or
or
the
government
to
and
I
know
that
this
happened
on
numerous
occasions.
C
The
speaker
is
not
infallible
as
well.
With
respect
to
this
I,
don't
believe
it's
a
point
of
order.
You
there's
a
clear
requirement
for
a
clarifying
statement
tomorrow.
I
will
be
happy
to
provide
one.
This
is
not
a
point
of
order
and
I
consider
the
matter
dealt
with
and
concluded
at
the
appropriate
time.
The
Honorable
member
for
Lethbridge
West
rose
on
a
standing
order.
42.
She
has
up
to
five
minutes
to
convince
the
Assembly
of
its
merits.
N
Thank
you,
Mr,
Speaker
and
I
think
for
the
opportunity
to
rise
pursuant
to
standing
order
42
to
request
the
ordinary
business
of
the
legislative
assembly
be
adjourned
to
a
debate
of
motion
that
is
urgent
and
pressing
that
and
which
I
will
read
read
out
under
notices
of
motion.
Mr
Speaker
I
would
like
to
acknowledge
the
pursuant
to
so42
I've
provided
the
members
of
this
assembly
with
the
appropriate
number
of
copies
and
Mr
Speaker.
N
The
reason
why
this
is
a
pressing
and
Urgent
matter
is
that,
as
the
representative
for
Lethbridge
West
I'm,
urging
all
members
of
this
assembly
to
show
the
people
of
Lethbridge
and
of
Southern
Alberta
more
broadly
that
addressing
the
health
challenges.
There
is
a
key
priority
for
all
of
us
here.
Mr
Speaker
I
will
note
that
team
last
Bridge
comes
to
Edmonton
every
year.
They
all
dutifully
file
onto
buses.
N
I
would
argue,
too,
that
it
affects
the
the
people
of
Medicine
Hat
and,
more
broadly,
because
those
communities
are
anchors
for
access
to
Acute,
Care,
Emergency,
Services,
primary
care
and
so
much
more
Specialist
Care
throughout
the
region.
Yesterday
we
heard
new
information
Mr
Speaker,
about
how
stretched
the
Intensive
Care
Unit
is
the
Chinook
Regional
hospital
was
over
100
capacity
over
the
weekend.
It
was
at
the
point
that
if
any
more
people
came
in
patients
would
have
to
start
being
diverted
to
other
communities.
N
This
is
due
to
a
number
of
factors:
Mr
Speaker,
not
the
least
of
which
is
Staffing
shortages
that
come
as
a
culmination
of
a
three-year
UCP
war
on
Frontline
healthcare
workers
during
a
pandemic.
It
is
deeply
concerning,
since
communities
across
the
province
are
also
having
capacity
issues.
So
if
we
have
capacity
issues,
there
is
nowhere
else
to
go.
Mr
Speaker,
our
Health
Care
system
is
at
the
point
where
the
Royal
Flames
house,
the
children's
hospice,
is
needing
to
pause
services
to
move
more
staff
to
Alberta
Children's
Hospital
in
Calgary.
N
Children
in
Lethbridge
and
surrounding
areas
also
rely
on
those
services
and
that
hospital
the
situation
is
dire
and
the
people
of
Lethbridge
and
all
across
the
provinces
are
here
deserve
to
hear
directly
from
us
today
on
what
is
being
done.
A
specific
resourcing
and
staff
Recruitment
and
Retention
plan
beds
are
not
people,
Mr,
Speaker
and
intensive
care,
and
all
of
those
sorts
of
services
requires
Staffing.
N
There
are
no
robots
for
this
work.
Mr
Speaker
Lethbridge
also
has
an
extreme
lack
of
access
to
pregnancy
and
birth
and
Care
in
October.
I
stood
with
the
leader
of
the
official
opposition
and
a
local
health
care
provider.
Vicki
Todd,
highlighting
how
concerning
this
is
families
need
to
have
certainty
that
they
can
have
a
baby
in
their
own
Community.
Doctors.
Specializing
in
maternity
are
also
fundamentally
important
for
high
risk
births.
N
Uthbridge
only
has
one
full-time
obstetrician
gynecologist
right
now
and
aside
from
pregnancy
and
childbirth,
women
do
not
have
access
to
a
range
of
women's
health
and
reproductive
Health
Care
Services.
It
is
not
just
women
of
birthing
age,
older
and
elderly
women
and
menopausal
women
need
access
to
opjyn's
quite
often,
and
they
do
not
have
that
access
in
Southern
Alberta.
The
UCP
needs
to
highlight
the
importance
of
this
and
display
that
they
are
taking
it
seriously.
N
Hundreds
of
thousands
of
people
rely
on
it
and
finally,
there
has
got
to
be
some
sort
of
action
or
an
access
to
Prime
Mary
care.
We
are
still
without
appropriate
access
to
walk-in
clinics.
We
still
don't
have
family
doctors
that
can
send
lab
results
anywhere,
rather,
patients
that
can
have
it
lab
results
sent
to
a
family
doctor
without
adequate
access
to
Primary
Care
people
are
more
reliant
on
the
emergency
room
would
have
to
talk
about.
We
have
already
talked
about
that,
so
we
need
this
debate,
Mr
Speaker.
We
need
a
plan.
Thank
you.
C
For
for
suing
to
standing
order,
42
a
member
of
executive
Council
does
have
up
to
five
minutes
to
respond
to
the
matter
of
urgent
and
pressing
necessity
of
the
motion.
I
would
just
like
to
provide
a
very
brief
comment
before
calling
upon
what
appears
to
be
the
minister
of
Health
that
over
the
recent
days,
we
have
heard
during
discussions
of
standing
order,
42
that
this
is
a
request
for
an
emergency
debate.
I
want
to
be
clear
that
standing
order.
42
is
not
a
request
for
an
emergency
debate.
C
It
is
a
motion
available
to
members
under
the
standing
orders,
standing
order,
42
of
urgent
and
pressing
manner,
which
is
different
than
standing
order,
30,
which
of
course,
is
an
emergency
debate.
I
think
it's
important
that
we
provide
some
clarity
around
those
things
and
encourage
members
to
speak
directly
to
the
appropriate
motion.
The
Honorable
member
for
Calgary
Varsity
or
the
Minister
of
Finance
has
up
to
five
minutes
to
respond
to
the
origin
and
pressing
manner.
Mr.
Thank.
F
S
F
Problem
and
and
I
want
to
thank
the
honorable
member
for
raising
the
the
issues
of
the
challenges
that
our
our
Health
Care
system
is
facing,
particularly
in
Lethbridge
and
I.
Want
to
thank
I,
see
some
members
in
the
gallery
that
you
know
from
Team
Lethbridge
are
are
here
and
I
want
to
thank
them
for
the
work
that
they're
doing
in
representing
the
the
City
of
Lethbridge
and
as
well
I.
Just
you
know
also
take
the
opportunity
to
thank
my
colleague
for
the
work
that
he
is
doing
as
well
and
representing
Lethbridge.
F
You
know
I
understand
that
the
member
from
Lethbridge
West,
you
know,
suggested
that
you
know
government
isn't
listening
to
Lethbridge
and
that
they,
you
know,
have
to
come
here
and
there's
a
need
for
an
urgent
need
for
this
particular
debate
and
and
I
can
tell
you.
We
are
indeed
listening,
not
only
through
my
colleague
and
the
representations
that
he's
making
to
me,
but,
quite
frankly,
Mr
Speaker
I
was
able
to
go
to
Lethbridge.
Earlier
this
year
held
a
workshop,
we
had
many
of
the
members
from
the
Lethbridge
mayor,
Lethbridge
City
councilors.
F
We
had
doctors,
we
had
AHS
employees
to
talk
about.
You
know
the
challenges
facing
our
health
care,
System.
What's
working,
what's
not
working
and
how
we
can
improve
the
things
we
can
do
to
improve,
to
make
it
better
and
Mr
Speaker
I
can
say
we
are
listening.
One
of
the
biggest
items
highlighted
by
the
doctors
in
Lethbridge
was
looking
at.
You
know
how
do
we
make
it
easier
for
changing
the
system
of
pay
so
that
doctors
and
family
physicians
could
see
more
see
more
patients?
F
We
heard
that
feedback
Mr
Speaker
and
we
acted
on
it
and
actually
that
that
action
showed
up
in
the
AMA
agreement.
We
meet,
we
we
reached,
and
that
was
ratified
in
September
with
by
over
70
percent,
and
we
have
implemented
that
already
in
terms
of
able
to
improve
access
to
family
physicians
and-
and
we
appreciate
that
that
this
has
been
a
challenge
and
Lethbridge
in
terms
of
access
to
family
physicians,
and
we
have
taken
action.
F
As
I
indicated
in
this
house,
early
Mr
Speaker,
there
are
17
Family
Physicians
who
have
accepted
positions
in
in
louth
bridge
and
then
a
number
a
number
of
them
are
going
through
the
various
certification
processes,
with
the
with
the
cpsa,
as
some
of
them
already
started.
Practice
practice
sing
and
more
is
on
the
way
and
Mr
Speaker.
As
I
indicated
earlier
in
this
house
during
question
period,
we
are
taking
action
and
investing
and
expanding
capacity
across
our
entire
system,
including
in
Lethbridge.
F
We
have
added
50
additional
ICU
beds
across
the
entire
Province
and
a
number
of
those
beds
we
we
put
in
in
lath
bridge,
and
we
put
the
money
behind
that
to
to
staff
those
up.
In
addition,
we
are
adding
additional
reacting
resources
to
be
able
to
hire
more,
so
we
are
hiring
more
across
the
entire
System,
including
in
in
Lethbridge,
and
there
are
ongoing
searches
for
for
staff
where
they're
short
right
now
and
I
can
tell
you
Mr
Speaker.
F
Quite
frankly,
Mr
Speaker,
we
have
more
nurses
more
doctors
than
ever
before,
working
in
in
the
province
and
we
are
going
to
continue
to
be
able
to
or
continue
to
focus
on,
recruitment,
training
attraction
and
attention
to
be
able
to
get
the
people
where
they
need
it
now.
The
Honorable
member
across
the
way,
spoke
of
of
the
challenge
that
we
have
in
our
Health
Care
system,
and
this
is
challenges
being
we're
being
faced
again
right
across
the
country.
F
Part
of
that
challenge
is
in
regards
to
absenteeism
because
RSV
flu
and
covid
is
circulating
and
that
impacts
our
Health
Care
staff
as
well.
We
haven't
had
to
be
able
to
transfer
out
any
patients
from
from
Lethbridge,
but
that's
the
beauty
of
our
system
that
when
we
need
to
do
that,
we
can
do
that,
and
we
have
done
that
on
occasion
in
the
past
now
we're
looking
to
build
capacity.
F
So
we
don't
need
to
do
that
in
the
in
the
future,
and
I
am
hopeful
when
we
look
at
the
overall
rates
of
flu
and
covid
circulating
in
the
province,
and
it
looks
like
that.
We've
we've
peaked
on
on
flu.
Initially
that
will
be
coming
down,
but
we
are
continued
at
capacity.
For
that
reason,
Mr
Speaker.
You
know
we
have
a
plan
we're
acting
on
our
plan.
We
don't
need
a
special
debate
on
this
matter.
Honorable.
C
AC
The
Minister
of
Justice
well,
thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
and
at
first
reading
it
wasn't
prepared
for
first
reading
of
this.
I
can
advise
that
I'm
now
more
prepared
for
moving
second
Reading
Police
arise,
move
second
reading
of
Bill
5,
the
Justice
statutes,
Amendment
act,
2022
number
two
and
Mr
Speaker
albertans
look
to
government
to
improve
their
day-to-day
lives.
They
look
to
government
to
reduce
red
tape.
AC
They
also
look
to
us
to
increase
access
to
the
justice
system
and
to
feel
safe
and
secure
when
they
visit
the
legislative
grounds.
This
Omnibus
Bill
will
do
all
the
above
and
more.
It
will
reduce
red
tape,
it
will
increase
access
to
the
justice
system
and
it
will
allow
legislative
security
to
carry
firearms,
because
this
is
a
bill
which
proposes
to
change
a
number
of
laws.
Specifically,
there
would
be
changes
to
the
Legislative
Assembly
act
to
the
Provincial
Court
act.
AC
The
interjurisdictional
support
orders
act,
the
referendum,
Act,
the
sale
of
goods
Act
and
the
trustee
Act
I'll
begin
by
addressing
the
amendments
to
the
Legislative
Assembly
Act
and
Mr
Speaker.
As
you
are
aware,
following
the
the
tragic
2014
shooting
on
Parliament
Hill
and
the
high
profile
event
that
occurred
here
at
the
legislature,
grounds
in
2019,
the
sergeant
arms
and
your
office
initiated
a
Security
review
and
since
that
review,
we've
also
seen
as
well
other
incidents
throughout
the
world.
AC
Mr
Speaker
the
Legislative
Assembly
security
service.
They
protect
our
democracy
and
they
do
that
by
ensuring
the
security
of
the
legislature,
the
Safety
and
Security
of
those
who
are
in
this
chamber
and
come
to
visit.
The
precinct
changes
to
the
Legislative
Assembly
act
would
allow
legislative
assembly
security
to
be
treated
as
peace
officers
under
the
criminal
code.
AC
This
change
will
bring
Alberta
as
well
in
line
with
many
other
jurisdictions.
It's
also
been
pointed
out
to
me,
Mr,
Speaker,
that
we
have
an
obligation
as
employers
to
ensure
the
health,
the
safety
and
the
welfare
of
employees
and
to
provide
them
with
the
the
right
tools
and
the
personal
protective
equipment
to
ensure
their
safety
and
to
ensure
the
safety
of
other
employees
here
within
the
precinct.
AC
I
think
it's
also
worth
noting
that
all
of
our
Las
officers
currently
are
former
members
of
the
Edmonton
Police
Service
and
many,
if
not
most,
have
specialized
training
and
many
have
served
on
the
tag
team
of
eps
and,
as
I
said
before,
Madam
speaker.
These
are
folks
who
come
to
work
every
day
to
protect
democracy.
AC
Next
I'll
address
the
proposed
changes
to
the
Provincial
Court
act.
Madam
speaker.
These
changes
would
lay
the
groundwork
to
expand
the
Civil
claims
that
can
be
filed
through
the
Provincial
Court,
which
we
have
now
renamed
the
Alberta
court
of
justice.
Currently
this
limit
for
what
many
call
the
small
claims
court,
but
what
is
called
officially
the
small
claims,
or
so
the
the
Civil
claims
division
of
the
Alberta
court
of
justice.
That
current
limit
is
fifty
thousand
dollars.
AC
It's
there's
concurrent
jurisdiction
with
the
court
of
King's
bench
as
opposed
to
other
jurisdictions
like
Quebec,
who
have
distinctions
and
there's
the
jurisdiction
between
those
two
courts.
We
have
concurrent
jurisdiction
and
people
have
a
choice
here
in
Alberta
whether
they
want
to
take
their
claim
to
have
fun
resolution
in
the
Alberta
Court
Justice
or
in
the
court
of
Kings
bench
now.
AC
At
the
same
time,
it
would
free
up
the
time
the
resources
in
the
court
of
Kings
bench
to
focus
on
more
complex
matters.
Ultimately,
this
makes
the
justice
system
more
accessible
to
all.
We're
also
proposing
changes
to
the
interjurisdictional
support
orders
act
to
make
it
easier
for
albertans
to
collect
child
and
spousal
support
payments.
Specifically,
this
is
earmarked
for
families
living
in
different
parts
of
the
country
from
their
former
partners
and
former
spouses.
AC
All
we're
doing
is
allowing
in
legislation
the
electronic
transfer
of
certified
family
support
documents
between
reciprocating
Canadian
jurisdictions,
so
British
Columbia,
Saskatchewan,
Manitoba
and
Nova
Scotia.
They
all
already
have
completed
comparable
legislative
amendments
in
support
of
a
transition
like
what's
being
proposed
in
this.
This
bill
there
are
many
provinces
are
working
towards
completing
their
own
changes,
and
this
amendment
will
greatly
reduce
the
time
needed
to
collect,
to
exchange
and
to
process
information
and
to
improve
Family
Support
Enforcement
here
in
Alberta,
for
those
who
often
are
going
to
be
the
most
vulnerable.
AC
The
next
piece
of
legislation
we're
adjusting
is
the
referendum
act.
Madam
speaker
amendments
to
this
act
will
strengthen
democracy
by
ensuring
that
albertans
have
a
direct
say
on
important
matters.
We're
simply
making
it
clear
that
only
constitutional
questions
require
a
resolution
be
made
in
the
legislature.
AC
Next,
we'll
amend
the
sale
of
goods
act.
Changes
to
the
sale
of
goods
act
will
eliminate
unnecessary
record-keeping
requirements
for
buyers.
When
grain
is
sold
and
delivered
at
a
grain
elevator,
they
would
also
make
the
the
language
in
Alberta's
sale
of
goods
act
the
same
as
the
federal
legislation,
which
is
the
Canada
grain
act,
just
to
help
avoid
any
confusion,
and
then,
last
being
the
proposed
amendment
to
the
trustee
act.
This
change
would
make
it
clear
that
a
trust
is
would
not
fail
if
there
is
a
if
there
is
temporarily
no
trustee.
AC
The
proposed
change
would
remove
the
transfer
of
trust
property
to
the
court,
allowing
the
trust
property
to
move
directly
to
the
new
trustee
once
appointed
and
in
conclusion,
Madam
speaker.
All
these
changes
will
improve
the
experience
of
albertans
when
dealing
with
the
legal
or
Court
processes
or,
if
they're,
visiting
or
working
in
the
legislature,
and
with
that
Madam
speaker,
I,
move
second
reading
bill,
5.
AK
You
know,
I'd
like
to
go
over
a
little
bit
of
what
the
bill
contains
in
the
various
pieces
of
legislation
that
they
amend
I
thank
the
Minister
of
Justice
for
reading
his
bill
and
for
understanding
it
and
speaking
to
it
today
in
the
legislature,
it's
not
batting
100
on
that
in
the
house.
So
far
this
session,
but
certainly
on
this
one,
it
appears
he
is
familiar
with
the
content
of
the
bill.
So
that's
fantastic.
AK
So
I
will
just
review
some
of
the
provisions
that
and
the
various
announcements
that
are
amended
by
this
legislation
and
just
to
summarize
sort
of
why
they
may
be
important.
So
the
first
piece,
of
course,
is
the
amendment
to
the
interjurisdictional
support,
orders
act
and,
while
that
sounds
like
a
a
very
fancy
term,
Madam
speaker,
it
essentially
means
when
there
is
a
family
law
support
order.
Some
kind
of
you
know
dispute
in
another
jurisdiction.
AK
We
know
that
when
there
is
arrangements
as
well
as
agreements
and
orders
that
are
in
place
that
affect,
for
example,
you
know
custody
as
well
as
support
payments,
child
support
payments,
those
you
know,
families
don't
stay
in
the
jurisdiction
in
which
their
children
were
born
or
even
where
they
lived.
We
know
that,
of
course,
people
move
around,
and
one
of
the
challenges
that
has
existed
for
some
time
is
that
if
an
order
is
Family,
Support
order
is
in
place
in
one
province
in
Alberta.
AK
Here
in
Alberta
and
under
our
statutes
and
regulations,
parents
and
Guardians
have
very
specific
rights
and
responsibilities,
but
it
has
to
be
clear
as
to
who
is
the
legal
guardian
and
who
is
the
parent
in
order
to
access.
For
example,
you
know
their
child's
personal
information
to
be
able
to
access
student
information,
and
certainly
you
know
one
can
particularly
imagine
challenges
around.
AK
In
order
to
be
valid,
it
caused
honestly
some
significant
confusion
and
challenges
both
with
guardians
and
with
school
boards
and
teachers
and,
frankly,
of
course,
the
implications
that
that
had
on
the
student.
So
it's
a
small
like
and
I'm
certain
that
there
are
people
in
this
assembly
and
albertans
who
are
dealing
with
it
on
a
more
regular
basis.
But
I
can
just
say:
I
appreciate
how
challenging
that
was
to
not
have
those
orders
recognized
properly
in
Alberta
without
going
through,
quite
honestly,
a
number
of
significant.
AK
Thank
you
to
the
member
from
amateur
McLean
for
seeking
to
intervene,
but
and
as
I
understand
it
this.
Actually,
this
was
new
to
me.
I
was
not
aware
of
this,
but
that
you
know
Alberta
is
a
little
bit
of
an
outlier
in
terms
of
requiring
those
strict
requirements.
So
if
the
changes
as
proposed
in
this
in
Bill
5
will
actually
make
it
easier
and
bring
Alberta
more
in
line
with
other
jurisdictions,
I
think
that's,
that's,
definitely
a
positive
step.
AK
So
the
specifics
in
Bill
5
are
you
know
it
removes
the
need
for
documents
that
are
produced
by
a
guardian
to
be
sworn
documents,
meaning
they
don't
need
to
have
be
sworn
by
a
notary
or
a
commissioner
removing
the
need
for
certified
documents
and
providing
a
little
bit
more
flexibility.
One
key
change
in
Bill
5
around
this,
which
I
think
is
important,
is
you
know
allowing
for
documents
to
be
sent
in
either
by
email
or
tele
telephone
transmission
of
documents
and
I
just
want
to
pause
on
that
point.
AK
Just
to
note
that
there
is
opportunities
from
the
pandemic
where
we
have
learned
in
terms
of
how
to
facilitate
access
to
Justice.
In
a
time
when,
of
course,
people
couldn't
physically
attend
to
courthouses,
we
saw
that
there
was
a
lot
of
flexibility
in
terms
of
how
you
know,
documents
could
be
provided
and,
of
course
our
testimony
could
be
provided
and
I
certainly
hope
that
some
of
that
can
be
carried
over
not
only
in
contentious
sort
of
family
law.
AK
AK
Dogs
at
zebra
Center
and
while
we
and
they
sort
of
certainly
hoped
that
that
kind
of
ability
for
children
in
particular,
to
be
able
to
provide
testimony
in
more
comfortable
settings
where
they're
feel
safe
and
not
as
scary
as
being
in
a
courtroom.
They
hope
that
can
continue.
So
I
just
want
to
pause
and
say
we
think
about
access
to
Justice.
This
bill
certainly
opens
up
some
some
avenues
for
increased
access,
but
certainly
there
are
lots.
AK
We
can
do
in
lessons
that
we
have
learned
from
the
pandemic
to
really
support
individuals
who
may
be
particularly
vulnerable
in
being
able
to
have
their
story
heard
to
present
their
evidence
in
a
safe
environment
and
certainly
I
hope.
This
will
pave
the
way
for
consideration
of
other
amendments
with
respect
to
the
other
legislative
changes
in
bill.
5.,
as
the
Minister
of
Justice
noted,
you
know
there
was
some
there's
some
changes.
AK
Guess,
I'd,
like
a
little
bit
more
information
as
to
how
weapons
in
that
case
are
arming,
the
lass
could
have
affected
or
changed
or
in
any
way
altered
the
course
of
events
that
took
place
that
day
or
certainly
how
they
are
anticipated
that
it
could
going
forward.
So
I
just
have
some
questions
about
that
that
piece
and
I'm.
Hopefully
we
will
get
some
clarification
on
that
I.
AK
Do
note
that
bill
5
also
makes
changes
to
the
Provincial
Court
act,
which
increases
the
threshold
amount,
for
which
a
claim
a
civil
claim
can
go
to
the
Provincial
Court
for
resolution.
So
the
Civil,
the
Provincial
Court
civil
claim
process
is,
is
a
lot
more
I,
don't
want
to
say
informal
because
of
course,
there's
still
a
court
process,
but
it
is
far
more
stringent
than
say
going
to
the
court
of
King's
bench.
AK
AK
So
that's
basically
like
a
small
claim
sort
of
idea
right
just
addressing
those
claims
in
a
more
informal
setting
to
provide
more
access
to
justice
for
for
claimants,
and
so
I
understand
that
under
Bill
5,
the
threshold
would
change
from
50
000
to
up
to
200
000..
So
again,
increasing
access
to
justice
is
really
important
and
it's
an
important
thread
certainly
I
know
it.
AK
It
underlines
many
other
challenges
in
the
court
system
around
access
to
Justice,
but
I
guess:
I
I
support
the
idea
of
more
people
being
able
to
resolve
issues
and
legal
claims
in
a
more
informal
process
that
doesn't
require
being
able
to
afford
a
lawyer
to
be
able
to.
You
know,
have
your
matter
heard
and
dis
and
resolved
I'm
curious
as
to
why
200
000
is
the
threshold.
What
thinking
went
into
that?
Was
it
looking
at
the
kinds
of
claims
that
have
come
forward?
AK
Obviously,
potentially
looking
at
the
court
of
King's
bench
claims
and
seeing
you
know
what
difference
that
would
make
if
the
threshold
was
raised
to
two
hundred
thousand
dollars.
Does
that
mean
that
a
number
of
those
claims
would
be
moved
and
what
is
those
numbers,
I'm
sure
I'm
hoping
some
assessment
was
done
as
to
what
that
would
mean
and,
and
while
that
may
relieve
pressure,
for
example,
on
the
Court
of
King's
bench?
Perhaps
it
will
perhaps
it
won't.
AK
But
if
it
relieves
pressure,
are
there
the
corresponding
resources
available
to
the
Provincial
Court
in
order
to
accommodate
what
would
likely
be
an
expanded
caseload?
As
we
know,
our
court
systems
are
very
strained
and
under
enormous
pressure
and
we're
seeing
long
delays
in
terms
of
hearing
cases
being
heard.
AK
So
while
it's
important
to
provide
access
to
Justice,
I
I
would
appreciate
hearing
sort
of
an
assessment
or
any
analysis
that
was
done
by
the
Minister
of
Justice
or
the
government
to
determine
whether
our
court
system
has
the
capacity
to
handle
those
increased
claims,
because
you
know
if
it's
still
going
to
be
a
very,
very
long
delay
with
this.
They
say
justice
delayed
is
Justice
denied,
and
so
you
know
we
have
to
be
cognizant
of
the
additional
pressures.
AK
It's
a
core
honestly
Madam
speaker.
Both
our
criminal
justice,
as
well
as
our
Democratic
systems,
is,
is
the
protecting
those
procedural
rights.
So
I
encourage
the
government
to
consider
those
issues
as
well
one
other
change
that
has
been
made
within
the
bill.
Five
is
we
know
that
it
makes
changes
too
and
I
think
these
ones
are
I
mean
relatively
non-controversial.
The
sale
of
goods
act
I
understand
that
section.
AK
25
of
the
ACT
is,
you
know:
it's
been
changed
to
align
with
what
I
understand
is
federal
legislation
to
remove
the
need
to
keep
a
record
of
the
vehicle
and
registration
that
delivered
the
grain
to
an
elevator
and
changes
track.
Buyer
to
grain
dealer
and
that's,
it
seems
to
be
a
small
I-
will
defer
to
anybody
else
who
may
have
more
expertise
in
this
area
to
comment
on
whether
the
significance
of
that,
but
it
does
seem
to
be
aligning
with
Federal
legislation
and
something
that,
generally
speaking,
would
be
non-controversial
I.
AK
Also,
the
another
piece
of
legislation
amended
by
Bill
5
is
the
trustee
Act
and
you
know
we
had
the
trustee
act
come
before
us
I
believe
a
couple
times
in
this
session
of
the
legislature.
I'm
locate
my
colleague,
the
member
from
Edmonton
St
Albert,
because
I
know
she's
very
familiar
with
the
trustee
act,
as
many
individuals
with
disabilities
and
their
families
often
rely
upon
that
that
act
for
governing
the
Estates
and
and
property
of
persons
with
disabilities.
AK
So
I
I
appreciate
that
in
you
know
previous
sessions
and
I'll,
forgive
me
Madam,
speaker
I
can't
remember
exactly
which
one
it
was,
but
it
was.
We
did
have
Bill
12
come
forward
which
made
changes
to
the
trustee
act
and
you
know,
and
and
I
believe,
if
I
recall
correctly,
that
those
changes
were
really
meant
to
reflect
some
work
that
had
been
done
for
over
a
period
of
time.
AK
Believe
this
change
in
Bill
5
to
the
trustee
Act
is
really
meant
to
address
what
or
to
clarify
something
that
was
put
into
bill
12.,
because
there
was
really
a
concern
that
the
changes
would
would
apply
additional
pressures
onto
the
court
system
and
so
as
I
understand
it.
Bill
5
would
amend
the
trustee
Act
to
ensure
that
where
there
is
no
trustee
in
place,
the
trust
will
not
will
not
fail,
and
this
is
only
when
there's
no
trustee
in
place
temporarily
that
it
it
typically.
AK
What
would
happen
is
if
there
was
no
trustee
in
place.
The
trust
would
would
essentially
fail
would
go
back
to
the
courts
and
then
the
courts
would
have
to
you
know,
appoint
a
new
trustee
and
really
that
that
process
of
going
back
to
the
courts
was
I
was
you
know,
adding
additional
pressure
onto
the
court
system,
so
the
idea
here
is
as
I
understand.
AK
It
is
that
if
the
a
trustee
is
just
temporarily
not
available
or
not
named,
rather
than
going
back
to
the
courts,
it
could
be
held
until
at
such
time
as
a
new
trustee
is
appointed
without
having
to
go
back
to
the
court.
So
again,
while
I
support
removing
pressure
from
the
court
system
again,
I
go
back
to
there's.
How
does
this
align
and
how
does
this
work
with
changes
around
the
threshold
for
civil
claims
to
go
to
the
Provincial
Court
and
does
you
know
have
we
addressed
those
challenges?
AK
AT
S
AK
AK
So
as
real
many
in
this
assembly
will
recall,
we
of
course
saw
the
referendum
referendum
act
come
before
us
and
I
believe
that
the
intention
of
the
amendment
would
be
to
clarify
that
bringing
a
resolution
to
this
assembly
prior
to
a
referendum
would
only
happen
in
the
case
of
a
constitutional
referendum
and
I
guess.
My
question
on
that.
AK
But
you
know
it's
hard
to
to
not
think
about
the
fact
that
there's
a
lack
of
understanding
around
when
things
do
and
do
not
come
back
to
the
legislature
from
the
government
caucus
and
certainly,
if
we're
talking
about
a
motion
from
the
Legislative
Assembly
to
authorize
a
constitutional
referendum.
My
question
would
be
why
wouldn't
we
have
a
motion
from
the
assembly
to
authorize
any
referendum?
AK
As
we
know
referendums,
they
require
a
significant
amount
of
investment
to
do
properly
to
actually,
you
know
properly
frame
the
question
to
do
public
education
campaigns
to
make
sure
that
the
public
is
aware,
and
of
course,
then
there's
the
administrative
costs
related
to
actually
having
an
election
and
having
a
referendum
through
the
normal
election
process,
maybe
sometimes
outside
of
an
election
process
too.
That's
entirely
possible,
and
so
why
wouldn't
this
assembly
get
a
chance
to
weigh
in
on
a
motion
to
approve
any
referendum?
That's
going
forward.
AK
So
those
are
certainly
some
of
the
questions
that
we
have
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
a
a
spirited
and
thoughtful
debate
by
the
members
of
the
assembly
on
Bill
five
and
a
number
of
questions
that
we've
asked
related
to
you
know
the
effect
of
changing
some
of
the
provisions
around
access
to
the
Provincial
Court
System
around
the
referendums.
Why?
Why
shouldn't
we
have
a
motion
for
all
all
referendums
that
are
brought
forward
and
and
really
just
sort
of
understanding.
AK
AU
Of
course,
according
to
the
Justice,
Minister
was
seeking
to
improve
the
day-to-day
lives
of
albertans
and,
of
course,
the
daily
lives
of
albertans.
Right
now
are
impacted
by
many
many
things,
not
many
of
which
are
actually
covered
by
by
this
bill.
Five
Madam
speaker,
because
indeed
we're
looking
at
the
day-to-day
lives
to
being
completely
unaffordable,
and
there
are
some
of
these
elements
of
this
build
of
Justice
statutes.
AU
So
if
indeed,
there
was
the
stated
terms
of
the
Minister
of
Justice
that
this
legislation
was
seeking
to
improve
the
day-to-day
lives
and
and
improve
access
to
Justice,
then
in
fact
this
would
have
seemed
to
be
a
very
natural
aim
of
the
bill
to
address
to
Legal
Aid
funding
model
that
is
acutely
affecting
access
to
Justice
in
Alberta.
Today,
I
served
as
a
court
intake
worker
volunteer
and
the
solicitor
General's
department
when
I
was
going
to
University
and
unfortunately
Madam
speaker.
AU
Some
of
the
same
problems,
then
in
terms
of
underfunding
of
the
legal
aid
system
are
still
a
current
now
and
I've
never
seen
it
get
to
the
breaking
point
that
it
has
been
now
and
to
see.
Legal
aid.
Lawyers
in
the
streets
should
have
told
the
government
that
this
needed
to
be
urgently
and
immediately
dealt
with,
and
it's
not
happening.
It's
a
Madam
speaker
intervention
go
ahead.
Thank.
AS
You
to
the
member
for
remembrance,
McClung
and
I.
It
was
a
very
curious
to
just
learn
a
little
bit
more
and
perhaps
you
were
going
there.
Your
own
work
I
mean
you
like
me
where
you're,
not
a
lawyer,
but
you
you
did
have
some
experience
working
with
legal
aid
and
you
started
to
say
that
you
know,
interestingly
enough,
some
of
the
challenges
remain
the
same,
and
so
I
would
just
be
curious
just
to
hear
a
little
bit
about
what
you,
what
some
of
those
challenges
were.
AS
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
if
you
said
when
that
was
I'm
guessing
it
was
a
couple
of
years
ago,
just
what
some
of
those
challenges
are
and
I
would
imagine.
As
my
colleague
from
Edmonton
White
mud
pointed
out,
you
know
there
are.
We
know
that
there
are
incredible
challenges
currently
with
legal
aid
that
we're
not
seeing
addressed
by
this
government
and
I,
know
I've
heard
from
a
number
of
lawyers
who
are
certainly
concerned
about
about
some
of
the
significant
challenges
that
you
know.
AU
Thank
you
very
much,
Madam
speaker,
I,
do
see
the
relevance
myself
because
indeed,
I
want
the
member
for
Edmonton
Highlands
Norwood
was
indeed
speaking
about
was
the
omission
of
the
legal
aid
funding
model
amendments
that
we
were
hoping
to
see
in
any
justice
statutes,
Amendment
act
and
it's
a
glaring
Omission
from
this
piece
of
legislation.
Madam
speaker
that
I
speak
to
this
afternoon
now,
Madam
speaker,
the
member
mentioned
that
she
wanted
to
hear
a
little
bit
about
what
my
experience
was
in
the
court
systems,
and
it
was
a
few
years
ago.
AU
That
I
was
there
to
ensure
that
the
individual
sentence
to
probation
did
not
leave
the
courtroom
prior
to
signing
probation
orders
and
prior
to
me,
assigning
that
individual
to
a
probation
officer
and
that
time
of
that
stance-
and
it
was
two
three
days
a
week
over
the
course
of
over
two
years-
Madam
speaker
while
attending
University.
It
was
more
than
courtrooms
and
in
that
time
frame
and
after
hearing
dozens
and
dozens
of
cases.
AU
What
I
witnessed
time
and
time
again
was
that
many
of
the
accused
would
attempt
in
right
in
front
of
the
judge,
sometimes
without
Duty
counsel,
because
they
hadn't
taken
the
time
or
weren't
aware
that
Duty,
Council
or
legal
aid
lawyers,
as
they
were
refer
to
were
available
to
discuss
their
situation
with
them
and
even
if
they
were,
they
had
only
moments
to
do
so.
Prior
to
the
accused,
taking
the
stand
and
their
case
coming
to
before
the
judge.
AU
If
the
indeed
the
guilty
plea
was
was
accepted
in
many
cases,
the
judge
would
caution
the
individual
about
the
guilty,
plea
and
and
arrange
for
the
individual
accused
to
speak
to
duty
Council
and
advise
that
they
was
going
to
be
having
that
individual
Reserve
their
plea,
rather
than
going
straight
to
a
guilty
plea
which
would
have
life-changing
consequences
for
that
individual.
Should
they
have
that
guilty
plea
accepted
and
have
that
that
indictment,
a
charge
on
the
record
for
for
life.
So
the
opportunity
has
been
missed.
AU
AU
The
bill
of
five,
the
Justice
statutes
Amendment
act.
So
that
is
one
Element
Madam
speaker
that
I
wanted
to
expound
upon
a
little
bit.
It
was
an
Omission
by
the
Justice
minister
in
Bill
5.,
something
else
that
caught
my
attention
with
respect
to
this
bill
was
the
sale
of
goods
act,
amendment
that
were
required
by
The
Minister's
changes
that
were
made
to
align
with
Federal
legislation
under
section
25,
which
removes
the
need
to
keep
a
record
of
the
vehicle
and
registration
that
delivered
grain
to
an
elevator
and
changes
track.
AU
Buyer
to
grain
dealer
in
terms
of
net
definitions,
I.
Imagine
Madam
speaker
that
at
the
point
at
which
the
legislation
was
made
to
actually
require
that
a
record
of
the
vehicle
and
the
registration
to
deliver
the
grain
to
elevator
was
implemented
that
there
was
a
reason
behind
that
and
at
the
moment
I'm
only
speculating
upon
it.
But
I
you
know
had
been
in
the
past.
AU
A
Critic
for
agriculture
and
I
know
that
one
of
the
things
that
I've
heard
from
producers
is
that
indeed,
the
fairness
of
the
weighing
of
their
green
was
something
that
was
in
dispute.
There
was
complaints
about
them
being
potentially
cheated
out
of
their
there
were
the
weights
and
I
have
a
another
intervention.
I.
AS
Didn't
actually
want
to
interrupt
him,
so
I
was
going
to
sit
back
down,
but
I
I
was
quite
I.
Was
you
took
the
words
out
of
my
mouth
because
I
was
thinking,
you
know,
as
the
critic
for
agriculture
I
was
going
to
ask
you
what
you
what
your
speculation
was
as
to
because
as
I
was
looking
through
this
bill,
I
must
admit.
AS
AS
There
are
a
few
farmers
in
this
chamber,
but
there
are
many
UCP
mlas
who
represent
a
whole
heck
of
a
lot
of
of
farmers
and
so
I'm
just
hopeful
I
I'm
having
memories
from
yesterday
of
government
members,
not
speaking
to
their
own
bills,
so
I,
just
I'm
hopeful
that
some
of
them
will
will
stand
up
and
weigh
in
on
some
of
these.
Perhaps
they
could
answer
some
of
our
questions.
AS
They
could
ask
their
own
questions
if
they've
all
read
the
bill,
but
I
would
ask
the
member
from
Edmonton
mukwang
to
just
speculate
a
little
bit
more
because
I
honestly
curious
I'm,
like
in
a
in
a
bill.
Five
like
this
Justice
statutes
why
that
piece
would
be
included
in
there
I
just
I
I
would
love
to
learn
a
little
bit
more.
AU
Thank
you,
member
I,
certainly
do
hope
to
learn
more
myself,
because
the
nature
of
my
comments
regarding
this
section
are
interrogative
more
than
declarative,
I
hope
to
learn
exactly
what
the
reasoning
is
to
remove
the
the
requirement
to
keep
a
record
of
the
vehicle
registration
delivered.
Grain
to
the
elevator
doesn't
seem
to
be
to
be
a
huge
load
of
red
tape
to
unpack
the
Minister
of
Justice
seems
to
think
this
is
a
red
tape
item
that
will
smooth
things
out
for
for
Farmers,
but
I
can
think
of
a
couple
of
reasons
myself.
Why?
AU
AU
So
indeed,
if
there
is
a
dispute
over
the
weight,
it
would
be
very
good
to
have
I
would
think
a
record
of
the
vehicle
and
the
registration
of
that
vehicle
to
deliver
the
grain
to
the
elevator.
So
that
makes
me
wonder,
is:
are
we
losing
a
a
an
opportunity
here
to
maintain
the
Integrity
of
the
the
weight
or
the
ability
of
a
farmer
to
dispute
a
payment
on
the
basis
of
an
inaccurate
weight,
removing
the
ability
of
that
that
farmer
that
producer
to
verify?
AU
Indeed,
that
weight
was
incorrect,
based
on
partly
upon
the
weight
of
the
vehicle,
was
used
to
deliver
that
grain
and
sat
on
the
scales
to
actually
ascertain
the
weight
of
the
Grain?
In
that
truck,
so
I'd
like
to
really
hear
more
detail
on
that
a
Madam
speaker
I'd
like
to
hear
who
actually
was
asking
for
this
because,
of
course
something
like
this
has
changed
in
legislation
to
the
sale
of
goods
act
under
the
bill.
Five
Justice
statutes,
Amendment
act
in
all
likelihood
didn't
come
while
the
minister
was
brushing
his
teeth.
AU
So
that's
that's
a
question
that
I
have
as
well
if
we
lost
an
enforcement
tool
to
protect
our
rural
roads
by
not
requiring
that
the
vehicle
that
delivered
the
grain
to
the
elevator
re
register
record
the
registry
and
the
the
type
of
vehicle
that
delivered
the
grain,
so
questions
that
I
have
that
occurred
to
me
as
leading
through
the
legislation.
Go
ahead.
Remember
final:.
AS
AS
AS
I
I
wanted
to
put
on
the
record
my
appreciation
for
your
speculation
around
the
impact
on
Rural
roads,
because
that's
something
that
oh
man,
you
know
some
of
those
rural
albertans
get
pretty
fired
up
above
the
roads
and
as
as
they
should,
because
some
of
those
rural
back
roads
in
particular
are
quite
hard
hard
to
navigate.
So
again,
I'm
I'd
like
to
ask
the
members
the
government
members
to
let
us
know,
because
we're
quite
curious,
particularly
around
section
25
and
the
the
amendments
there.
AS
AS
AU
Thank
you,
member
I,
think
that's.
The
purpose
of
the
debate
this
afternoon
is
to
seek
clarifying
answers
to
questions
we
have
about
the
legislation
brought
forward
and,
of
course,
we're
all
intent
on
protecting
the
integrity
and
safety
of
our
road
beds,
whether
they
be
rural
or
major
highways,
and
the
the
weight
restrictions
are
there
for
a
reason,
and
it
makes
me
wonder
if
indeed
we're,
as
I
said,
giving
up
an
opportunity,
an
enforcement
opportunity
to
confirm
that
overweight
vehicles
are
not
traveling
on
our
rural
roads,
particularly
the
ones
that
are
leading
from
Farm
to
elevator.
AU
This
would
be
one
way
of
I,
think
keeping
a
record
of
overweight
vehicles
or
determining
if
overweight
Vehicles
were
actually
coming
to
the
elevator
and
I'm
wondering
if
that
element
of
the
question
is
being
considered
by
the
Justice
Minister,
when
he
indeed
formulated
this
change
to
the
ACT,
to
remove
the
need
to
keep
a
record
of
the
vehicle
and
the
registration
that
delivered
the
grain
to
the
elevator.
So
hopefully
there
will
be
some
answers
forthcoming
to
those
questions.
AU
I
hesitate
to
find
how
this
bill,
in
fact,
will
quote
unquote,
improve
day-to-day
lives
of
albertans.
The
Minister
of
Justice
had
that
as
his
head
goal
or
leading
outcome
that
he
wanted
to
achieve
by
this
bill.
Not
many
of
the
items
here
are
are
housekeeping
items.
I
know
that
the
changes
that
were
needed
or
that
were
bringing
were
brought
forward
and
I'll
continue.
My
thoughts
later.
W
W
W
W
W
W
So
this
is
regarding
how
we
man,
how
we
set
up
our
civilian
oversight
of
policing
services,
discipline
process
for
officers
of
the
law
and,
of
course,
we've
had
a
great
bit
a
great
deal
of
discussion
as
a
society
about
this
issue
and
again
noting
that
this
is
something
that
is
included
here
as
part
of
this
bill.
So
noting
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
future
piece
of
this
bill
is
going
to
be
adjusting
for
those
changes
to
the
policing
act,
and
so
this
is
a
process
that
is
still
in
place
and
is
still
ongoing.
W
W
Much
as
it
discusses
in
the
bill
here
that,
for
the
current
time,
the
speaker
will
be
responsible
for
investigations
of
wrongdoings
by
officers,
but
that
will
be
clarified
when
there
are
changes
to
the
police,
Act
of
which
I'm
speaking
now
now
Burton
shared
their
thoughts
on
policing
under
this
government,
so
under
the
new
Ministers
of
Justice,
through
an
online
survey
from
December
3rd
of
2020
to
January
4th
of
2021.
and
according
to
information
online
from
the
Goa.
W
In
addition,
there
is
about
15
000
albertans
that
completed
a
public
survey
that
covered
several
topics
related
to
law
enforcement,
such
as
the
role
of
police
in
the
community
processes
for
handling
complaints
from
the
public
and
officer
discipline.
As
again
I
know,
it
is
being
discussed
in
the
ACT
here
in
this
case,
where
officers
would
see
discipline
should
there
be
concern
of
Ron
doing
for
an
investigation
that
would
be
undertaken
by
the
speaker,
of
course,
to
later
be
clarified.
W
The
previous
fall
now
Madam
speaker
that
six-month
term,
of
course
ended
last
year
and
of
course,
so
the
report
from
Dr
oriola
was
delivered
to
the
minister,
so
that
has
been
on
The
Minister's,
desk
and
I.
Assumed
some
I
would
certainly
hope.
There
has
been
some
progress,
but
so
far
we
have
not
seen
any
further
movement
or
any
further
action
from
the
government
regarding
these
important
reforms
which
again
relate
directly.
Yes,
thank.
AS
You
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
to
intervene
there.
I
just
I
know
you
were
on
quite
a
role
there,
but
I
really
appreciate
your
your
digging
into
the
police
act
a
little
bit.
You
know
the
member
from
empty
McClung,
dug
into
some
of
the
other
aspects
of
the
bill
again
hoping
that
some
of
the
members
in
the
chamber
will
be
able
to
win,
especially
on
the
the
on
the
police
act
piece.
AS
W
By
changes
in
the
police
act
for
increased
civilian
oversight
of
law
enforcement
personnel,
which
has
been
part
of
this
ongoing
review
with
government
and
in
indeed,
as
the
member
noted,
there
has
not
been
significant
action
or
movement
or
indeed
announcement
from
government
in
some
time.
I
could
understand
Madam
speaker,
perhaps
why
that
is.
W
We
know
the
government
has
been
wrapped
up
in
a
considerable
amount
of
its
own
drama
and
Intrigue,
which
of
course
led
to
the
leadership
race
and
the
installation
of
a
new
premier
and,
of
course,
now
an
interesting
preoccupation
with
the
job-killing
sovereignty
act
and
that
all
of
that
internal
turmoil
in
in
Rancor
frankly
is
led
to
some
distraction
from
the
government
from
perhaps
some
of
the
more
important
issues
which
we're,
of
course
discussing
here
around
Bill
5
and
that
review
the
police
act.
But
what
we
do
know
is
indeed
that.
AR
AR
W
You,
madam
speaker,
I,
will
attempt
to
continue
to
show
relevance.
Of
course,
we
are
talking
about
Bill
5
here
and
under
Bill
5,
the
provision
that
they
are
making
changes
to
bring
our
board
in
line
with
other
jurisdictions
which
allow
for
the
arming
of
security
Personnel
under
the
purview
of
the
speaker
and
within
this
bill
again
a
new
section
clarifying
that
the
speaker
is
responsible
for
the
security
of
the
assembly
and
allowing
for
continuation
of
the
current
system,
where
both
sheriffs
and
legislative
security
have
jurisdiction
in
different
areas.
W
As
per
agreement
with
the
minister
of
Public
Safety
that
the
legislative
security,
Personnel
powers
and
duties
will
align
with
those
of
peace
officers
and
officers
not
put
under
the
ACT
to
maintain
the
independence
and
the
jurisdiction
of
the
speaker
and
then,
of
course,
again.
The
connection
then,
with
the
police
act
which
I've
been
discussing,
which
is
that
the
speaker
will
be
responsible
for
investigations
of
wrongdoings
by
officers,
but
that
will
later
be
clarified.
By
changes
to
the
police
act
for
increased
civilian
oversight
of
law
enforcement
personnel.
W
W
Highlands
know
what
is
asking
what
I've
been
hearing
from
the
community.
Certainly,
we've
seen
there
has
been
growing
discussion
about
how
public
dollars
are
allocated
to
promote
the
safety
of
individuals
in
the
public,
whether
that
should
be
better
allocated
to
police
or
to
other
community
organizations
on
those
particular
aspects
of
the
work
and
how
those
two
can
interact
and,
of
course,
that's
a
portion
that
we
perhaps
consider
certainly
recognizing
that
the
officers
here
at
the
legislature
would
be
in
a
bit
of
a
different
position
in
terms
of
their
interaction
in
that
regard.
W
They
would
like
to
see
some
form
of
independent
body
in
existence
to
be
able
to
review
when
there
is
wrong
accusation
of
wrongdoing
against
an
officer
of
the
law
and
indeed
to
consider
how
that
discipline
should
go
forward.
So
in
this
case,
of
course,
we
know
we
are
talking
about
under
Bill
5,
the
speaker
being
responsible
for
those
investigations
of
the
wrongdoings
by
officers,
but
yet
that
may
be
future
clarified
when
we
see
the
completion
of
this
review
of
the
police
act
and
it's
unfortunate
Mr
Speaker.
W
That
the
level
of
distraction,
the
level
of
drama
that
has
gone
on
under
the
government
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
has
put
us
in
a
position
where
some
of
these
important
things
through
the
people
of
Alberta
are
getting
put
off.
I
had
really
hoped
to
see
those
changes
come
forward
in
this
legislative
session.
Instead,
what
we
have
is
Bill
5,
where
we
have.
W
It
briefly
touched
upon,
as
we
consider
how
yourself,
as
a
speaker
would
be
responsible
for
investigations
of
wrongdoings
by
officers,
but
looking
at
how
that
may
change
under
the
future
changes
of
the
police
act,
but
we
do
not
have
those
pieces
of
the
police
act
here
for
consideration
in
this
assembly.
Yes,
member
for
Edmonton
Highlands.
Thank.
AS
Think
I
think
he's
asking
he's
posing
to
to
this
chamber
some
very
important
questions,
and
you
know
why
is
it
that
we're
still
we
still
have
not
yet
heard
from
the
review
and
again
I
would
I'd
really
love
if
the
minister
responsible
for
I
may
get
his
title
wrong,
Public
Safety,
perhaps
other
things
could
give
us
an
update
because
I'd,
certainly
just
as
as
the
member
from
Edmonton
City
Center
has
noted.
You
know
he's
heard
from
a
lot
of
his
constituents.
AS
I
have
as
well
right
and
same
similarly
with
conversations
with
with
Municipal
leaders
too.
It's
just
it's
a
little
bit
interesting
that
there
has
been
radio
silence,
but
as
that
member
noted,
you
know
we
we
cannot.
We
can
imagine
with
the
great
deal
of
chaos
inherent
in
this
government
that
there's
been
no
action.
W
W
I
respect
the
work
that
speakers
of
the
legislature
have
done
and
certainly
recognize
that
they
assume
many
of
these
responsibilities
in
terms
of
essentially
being
a
de
facto
ahead
of
HR
or
sort
of
responsible
for
all
the
staff
of
the
legislative
of
the
legislative
assembly
as
well,
and
sort
of
take
on
some
of
that
role
in
quite
a
bit
of
authority
and
responsibility
with
that.
But
certainly
it
is
a
significant
new
responsibility
to
ask
that
the
speaker
would
be
responsible
for
investigations
of
wrongdoings
by
officers
at
the
legislature.
W
Now
I
I
certainly
believe
that
the
the
speaker
would
would
be
able
to
Avail
themselves,
I'm
sure
of
many
resources
and
expertise
and
other
things.
Should
that
be
the
case,
and
should
they
have
to
undertake
such
an
investigation
and
I?
Imagine
that
has
occurred
in
the
past
when
there
has
been
other
requests
for
investigations
or
concerns
that
have
been
raised
about
staff
of
the
legislative
assembly.
But
I
would
say
this
takes
on
another
level
of
responsibility
for
the
speaker
in
so
doing,
and
so
I
think
moving
forward
with
that
review
of
the
police
act.
AV
AV
On
Recreation,
as
you
recall,
I'll,
remember
that
you
know
and
we
were
invited
to
the
event
in
Calgary
during
the
past
month,
actually
month
of
October.
So
similarly
what
I
was
hearing
in
my
riding
and
I
believe
you
have
been
many
many
actually
meeting
into
the
similar
stakeholders
concerns
that
they
are
concerned
about
the
cuts
to
Human
Rights
Commission,
the
particularly
cuts
to
Human
Rights
education
funding,
and
particularly,
what
had
happened.
AV
W
Well,
I
I
appreciate
the
comments
from
the
member
for
Edmonton.
Meadows
certainly
recognize
the
Alberta
Human
Rights
Commission
would
be
another
one
of
those
independent
bodies
which
is
providing
oversight
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge
has
perhaps
less
involvement
when
it
comes
to
law
enforcement,
but
certainly
is
an
important
part
of
protecting
the
rights
of
albertans
in
many
areas.
And
ultimately,
what
we
are
talking
about
here
is
a
question
of
Public
Safety.
W
Taking
the
opportunity
then,
to
review
some
of
these
other
jurisdictions
having
just
received
the
bill
recently,
I
haven't
had
the
chance
to
delve
into
that
yet,
but
I'll
certainly
be
interested
to
see
how
that
has
come
into
practice
in
other
jurisdictions.
What
steps
might
have
been
taken?
Certainly
you
know
this
puts
me
back
in
mind,
I
suppose
of
the
the
gentleman
that
made
his
way
into
the
Parliament
building
back
in
I,
believe
it
was
a
2014.
W
I
believe
under
the
time
of
prime
minister
Harper
and
I,
remember
the
concerns
that
were
raised
there.
Indeed,
I
remember
visiting
the
Parliament
that
that
fall
for
the
first
time
in
September
of
2014.
I,
believe
that
was
the
year,
because
that
was
when
I
took
the
trip
and
recall
sort
of
considering
and
just
sort
of
For
the
First
Time
really
experiencing
that
level
of
security
and
how
things
were
protected
and
indeed
being
warned
as
I
in
taking
pictures
wandered
a
little
too
closely
to
the
doors
of
the
chamber.
W
So
I
certainly
recognize
the
importance
of
this
in
the
current
atmosphere,
where
we
find
unfortunately,
increasingly
heated
political
rhetoric
both
from
politicians
and
from
individuals.
Certainly,
as
with
the
events
that
we
saw,
unfortunately,
during
the
midst
of
the
covid-19
pandemic,
where
some
have
chosen
to
Fan,
the
Flames
of
conspiracy
unfortunately
continue
to
do
so.
W
AV
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
it's
my
pleasure
to
rise
in
the
house
and
speak
to
the
bell
bell.
Five
Justice
statutes:
Amendment
act,
2022
number
two,
so
this
will
actually
make
quite
a
few
changes
that
some
are
miners.
Some
are
important
and
some
are
really
worth
paying
attention,
because
if
they
are
even
stepped
same
step
in
the
right
direction,
that
needs
still
a
lot
of
explanation
how
its
implementation
or
lack
of
implementation
is
going
to
impact
the
people
of
of
the
province.
AV
AV
The
the
section
one
of
this
bill
make
changes
to
actually
speed
up
the
process
processes
to
bring
sport,
child
and
Sport
orders
in
line
where
most
of
the
other
provinces
I,
believe
it
says
the
other
provinces,
but
it
doesn't
say
like
all
the
other
provinces
or
most
of
the
provinces,
so
it
removed
some
of
the
requirements
in
place
right
now,
so
the
sport
can
be
in
place
and
and
in
the
Speedy
process.
So
it's
removed
the
need
for
sworn
documents
and
it
needs
the.
It
moved.
AV
The
need
of
certified
documents
to
provide
a
flexibility
for
certification
and
also
its
sections.
Allow
that
no
definitely
it's
important
in
these
days.
The
people
can,
you
know,
transmit
their
documents
electronically
via
email
or
also
a
confirm
and
test
testified
via
telephone,
and
it
removes
the
requirement
need
of
statutory
certified
copies
and
provide
designated
authority
to
Authority
the
ability
to
require
certificate
copies,
if
determined
as
necessary.
AV
AV
Have
my
colleague,
if
you
remember
from
honorable
member
from
Edmonton
mclang
another
former
critic
as
well
for
the
agriculture
I
raised
some
question
around
this
change
change
in
section
25?
That
removes
the
need
to
keep
a
record
of
the
vehicle
and
the
registration
that
delivers
the
grain
to
the
elevator
and
changes
Track
by
to
grain
dealer.
So
we
understand
this
change
as
we
read
it,
but
it
would
have
been
really
helpful.
AS
Yeah
go
ahead,
mid
phrase
there,
but
you
know
without,
of
course
the
member
for,
for
those
opposite,
not
paying
attention
was
referring
to
the
sales
of
goods,
act
and
sales,
Goods
act,
section
25
and
some
changes
around
grain
being
delivered
to
elevators
and
I
had
noted
earlier
that
you
know.
We've
the
member
from
Edmonton
McClung
was
left
speculating
as
to
why
those
changes
would
be
needed
in
this
Justice
statutes.
Amendment
act,
I
can
honestly
admit,
I
can't
quite
figure
it
out
and
I'm
without
referring
to
the
presence
or
absence
of
members.
AV
AV
So
we
just
understand
that
the
requirements
to
keep
the
records
have
been
waived,
and
the
question
around
this
to
members
like
us
that
we
do
not
know
the
specific
question
concerns.
Are
the
advocacy
behind
this?
What
this
changes
change
is
going
to
exactly
do
help
the
dealer
or
help
the
adjusted
owner
or
actually
Bear.
This
demand
was
coming
from
also,
and
the
section
26
of
this
bill
makes
changes
to
the
new
trustee
Act.
AV
AV
AQ
I
appreciate
the
the
comments
he's
putting
on
the
record
on
Bill
5,
the
Justice
statutes,
Amendment
act
and
I
know
that
as
I'm
looking
through,
Bill
5
I
see
much
that
I'm,
certainly
supportive
of,
and
he
was
talking
about,
the
trustee
act.
Changes
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
is
really
positive.
AQ
AV
Thank
you,
honorable
member
from
Millworks
for
asking
you
a
question
yeah,
you
know.
As
I
said
you
know,
I
do
have
a
situation
where
I'm
the
trustee
of
the
account
and
by
saying
this
you
know
that
is
very
kind
of
comprehensive
and
complex
process
that
takes
actually
a
time
that
takes
months
to
months
to
get
establish
and
and
get
through
the
process,
and
definitely
this
is
actually
this
change.
I
would
call
that
actually,
that
was
turned
from
the
Bell.
A
AV
For
these
from
the
spring
session,
but
this
change
change
suddenly
is
helpful
that
if,
in
the
situation,
the
plus
the
expire
or
the
you
know,
trustee
is
no
longer
there
to
you
know
to
deliver
his
responsibilities,
so
the
new
trustee
or
the
same
whole
process
didn't
start
again.
So
then
it's
a
bit
of
help
to
bring
the
new
trustee
in
where
the
smooth
horror
kind
of
fast
process,
I,
would
say
so
definitely
support
this
actually
Amendment
and
the
change
in
this
use
of
legislation.
AV
AV
It
makes
it
like
clear
the
about
non-constitutional
referendums
and
constitutional
referendums,
so
it
says
Section
3
of
this
I
have
piece
of
legislation.
It
says
in
clarification
that
the
Constitutional
Defender
requires
the
passage
of
the
motion
by
the
Legislative
Assembly
prior
to
being
ordered
and
the
sum
of
them.
They
also
clarify
that
non-constitutional
randoms
do
not
require
a
motion
to
be
passed
by
the
assembly.
AV
A
AV
AQ
AV
How
we
will
who
will
Who
is
going
to
decide
authenticity
or
ethical
Behavior
behind
this
Lobby
or
they
referendum
that
is
going
to
be
called
without
the
without
being
discussed
in
the
house.
You
know
by
the
representative
in
this
house
with
legendary
legislative
member.
You
know
these
kind
of
behaviors
are
to
my
understanding.
I.
AV
Don't
know
I
really
need
to
learn
like
people
can
choose
the
kind
of
opportunities
to
just
I,
don't
know
impact
or
set
narratives
or
change
narratives,
or
maybe
it
wouldn't
much
do
directly
changing
or
challenging
the
Constitution,
but
also
it
is
definitely
impact
the
society
and
the
popular
narrative
in
the
society.
So
why
would
somebody
do
like
where
exactly
this
was
coming
from?
It
will
be
very,
very
helpful.
You
know
I
will
be
able
to
provide
much
better
feedback
on
this.
C
S
AK
Some
time
for
government
members
to
potentially
rise
and
speak
on
Bill
4.,
we've
heard
repeatedly
from
members
of
this
assembly
how
important
they
claim
Health
Care
is
to
them.
Now
it's
not
bill
one
bill.
One
is,
of
course
the
sovereignty
act,
but
certainly
we've
heard
talk,
at
least
from
the
Ministry
of
Health,
that
he
cares
deeply
about
health
care,
so
I
thought
for
sure
yeah.
AK
This
government
members
would
be
eager
to
speak
to
addressing
Bill
4,
which
is
an
attempt
I
Believe
by
the
government,
to
amend
for
the
years
of
chaos
that
they
have
initiated
and
which
we
are
all
suffering
as
a
result
of
in
this
province.
It
began
with
the
legislative
change
that
bill
4
is
seeking
to
amend.
AK
So
it's
quite
a
shock
to
me
that
none
of
them
would
like
perhaps
want
to
stand
up
and
apologize
to
albertans
for
their
decision
to
allow
a
provision
Mr
Speaker
that
gave
the
government
of
Alberta
the
sole
authority
to
terminate
unilaterally
a
contract
with
doctors.
And,
of
course
they
introduced
that
in
Fall
of
2019
and
then
quickly
exercised
that
authority
to
end
the
contract
simply
on
their
own
volition.
AK
Oh,
and
that's
a
time
that
will
many
of
us
will
remember
as
the
time
when
a
global
Health
crisis
came
and
and
affected
all
albertans,
whether
it
be
their
health,
their
business,
their
schools,
their
kids,
everybody
was
affected
and
that
mere
weeks
before,
when,
of
course
many
of
us
knew
the
writing
was
on
the
wall.
With
respect
to
this
pandemic
as
well,
many
experts
had
said
it
was
coming.
AK
That's
when
the
United
conservative
party
government
decided
that
they
would
begin
a
war
with
doctors
now
I
just
want
for
the
context
of
the
assembly
to
read
again
what
that
provision
was
in
the
Alberta
Healthcare
Insurance
act,
and
that
was
in
Bill
21
in
Fall
of
2019.
The
government
introduced
section
40.2
to
the
Alberta
Health
Care
insurance
Act,
and
that
provision
subsection
2
allowed
the
lieutenant
governor
and
Council
by
order
to
terminate
an
agreement.
AK
The
AMA
agreement,
which
will
be
the
Alberta
Medical
Association
agreement
or
any
other
agreement
between
the
crown
and
right
of
Alberta
and
the
Alberta
Medical
Association
or
any
other
person,
respect
and
compensation
matters.
It's
really
what
it
did.
It
allowed
them
to
just
tear
up
that
bill.
Now,
it's
interesting
Mr
Speaker
is
that
I
decided
to
go
down
which
ended
up
being
a
very
dark
path
of
reviewing
the
debate
of
Bill
21
in
the
fall
of
of
2019.,
multiple
days
of
debate
on
Bill
21,
as
some
of
the
members
may
remember.
AK
AK
There
was
many
more
egregious
decisions
to
come,
of
course,
Mr
Speaker,
but
this
is
one
of
the
first
bills
of
some
really
outrageous
Decisions
by
the
government,
who
decided
to,
for
example,
balance
our
budget
or
seek
to
try
to
balance
the
budget
because
they
also
actually,
by
that
time,
had
increased
the
debt
significantly
and
lost
50
000
jobs
before
by
this
time.
But
they
sought
to
balance
the
budget
on
the
backs
of
people
with
age.
AS
Yes,
I'll
give
you
this
is
this.
Thank
you
for
giving
way
to
me
to
the
member
from
Edmonton
White
mud.
This
is
it
just?
Is
it
Deja
Vu?
It's
just
incredibly
intriguing
that
this
government
that
these
these
UCP
members
who
I
know
and
I
talked
about
this
at
Great
length
yesterday
I
know
are
hearing
about
health
care
from
their
constituents,
because
I've
talked
to
their
constituents.
AS
I've
talked
to
their
constituents
in
Edmonton
Southwest
in
Medicine
Hat,
oh,
my
goodness
we're
a
Sherwood
Park
and
we
have
many
writings
in
Calgary
and
in
Saint,
Albert
moranville,
because
I've
knocked
on
doors
and
the
fact
that
this
Laduke
the
list
goes
on.
I
I
I've
been
all
over
this
province.
The
list
goes
on.
The
point:
is
you
are
hearing
about
health
care,
Spruce,
Grove,
Stony,
Plain,
I'm,
getting
cc'd
on
a
number
of
emails
to
Spruce
growth,
Stony,
plane?
AS
AK
Well,
thank
you
to
the
member
for
Edmonton,
Highlands,
Norwood
I,
agree
and
it
seems
to
be.
This
is
a
pattern
of
behavior.
They
couldn't
stand
up
and
say
why
they
thought
it
was
okay
to
dnxh
and
why
it
was
okay
for
them
to
be
able
to
unilaterally
end
the
agreement
with
doctors
which
started
the
war
on
doctors
and
our
Health
Care
Systems,
and
our
Healthcare
professionals
at
a
time
of
a
pen
endemic.
They
didn't
want
to
speak
about
it
now
and
they
then,
and
they
don't
want
to
speak
it
about
it.
AK
Now
they
don't
want
to
say
I'm.
Sorry,
we
were
wrong.
We
were
wrong
to
do
that,
but
the
thing
is
I
believe
Mr
Speaker,
that
albertans
know
they
were
wrong
and
they
do
know
they
are
wrong,
because
this
is
why
they're
trying
to
sneak
this
in
I've
noticed
too,
by
the
way
that
there's
very
little
eye
contact
being
made
right
now,
as.
AK
That
they
thought
it
was
fine.
Now
Mr,
Speaker,
I'm,
very
proud
in
Edmonton
White
mud
to
represent
a
constituency
that
actually
has
a
lot
of
Physicians
has
a
lot
of
doctors,
a
lot
of
nurses,
a
lot
of
respiratory
therapists,
a
lot
of
OTS
and
slps
like
a
lot
of
healthcare
workers
in
my
riding
and
I,
you
know
as
a
door
knock
in
my
constituency,
there
has
been
a
consistent
theme
that
I've
I've
seen.
AK
First
of
all,
we
know-
and
we've
heard
these
stories
that
and
I've
heard
it
firsthand
from
my
constituents
of
doctors,
who
said
you
know
what
I
could
not
go
on
practicing
under
this
government.
It
was
an
affront
to
everything
that
I've
done
as
a
medical
professional.
They
chose
to
retire
early
just
a
couple
weeks
ago,
I
was
door,
knocking
and
I
came
across
a
doctor.
AK
That
said,
the
decision
of
this
government
to
go
to
go
to
war
on
Alberta
doctors
and
Healthcare
professionals
during
a
pandemic
was
quite
possibly
one
of
the
most
foolish
decisions
ever.
That
is
probably
why,
when
we
saw
that
that's
why
we
saw
approval
levels
for
this
government
and
former
premier
be
the
lowest
in
the
country.
I
mean
that,
of
course,
and
there's
the
best
summer
ever
and
the
you
know
extremely
high
numbers
of
people
who
died
in
Alberta
per
capita
from
covid.
AK
But
that
decision
to
not
Veer
away
to
not
take
a
step
back
and
think
about
what
the
province
was
actually
experiencing,
but
to
pursue
doggedly
an
ideological
agenda,
absent
evidence,
in
fact.
Well,
actually
we're
seeing
a
repeat
of
that
behavior
Mr
Speaker.
We
see
it
with
the
introduction
of
Bill
one
in
the
sovereignty
act.
These
folks
just
don't
seem
to
learn
Mr
Speaker.
They
don't
seem
to
even
take
responsibility
for
their
actions.
AK
Then
none
of
them
seem
to
be
standing
up
to
be
able
to
say
we
made
a
mistake,
so
it's
all
fine
and
good
that
they
want
to
bring
forward
this
bill
for
and
and
remove
the
ability
to
do
what
they
should
have
never
empowered
themselves
to
be
able
to
do
in
the
first
place.
Mr
Speaker
and
I've
reviewed
the
debate
on
Bill
21
and
saw
speaker
after
speaker
from
the
opposition,
stand
up
and
speak
out
against
both
The
de-index
Innovation,
as
well
as
the
decision
to
unilaterally
and
be
able
to
determinate
the
contract
with
doctors.
AK
During
the
debates
on
Bill
21
about
the
impact,
this
would
have
on
the
trust
and
the
relationship
and
Mr
Speaker.
When
we
look
at
the
health
care
challenges
that
our
Province
faces
right
now,
they
all
revolve
around
trust
and
value
and
respect
it's
why
we
have
an
incredible
shortage
of
healthcare
workers.
Yes,
I'll,
give
way.
AU
I'm
pleased
to
intervene
to
ask
a
quick
question
regarding
thrust
and
the
trust
that
is
dissolving
faster
every
day
in
the
light
of
the
government's
inability
to
actually
paint
a
clear
picture
of
what's
happening
to
the
number
of
doctors
in
the
province.
Of
course,
we
in
the
opposition
point
out
that
doctors
are
leaving
the
province.
The
government
responds
they
say.
AU
Oh
no,
we've
got
more
doctors
in
the
province
than
we've
ever
had
before,
yet,
in
fact,
the
number
of
doctors
supposedly
should
be
increasing
as
we
increase
in
population
but
I'm
wondering
indeed,
since
there
is
simply
a
real,
huge
doctor
shortage,
because
many
many
people
can't
find
a
family
doctor
what
the
government's
picture
is
lacking.
In
your
estimation,
in
terms
of
depriving
the
real
picture,
both
doctors
in
the
province,
the
numbers
that
are
here
and
those
that
are
leaving
and
why
there's
still
a
shortage.
AK
Thank
you
to
the
member
for
the
question
and
you
know
actually,
when
I
think
about
what
what
the
challenges
are
in
terms
of
the
trust
and
relationship
I.
Think
about
just
a
few
minutes
ago,
when
I
mentioned
that
I'm
proud
to
represent
a
constituency
that
has
a
lot
of
doctors
and
Health
Care
Professionals
who
work
in
it.
Some
government
member
over
there
scoffed
about
that
and
made
a
little
noise,
like,
oh
of
course,
I,
do
and
that
exactly
Mr
Speaker
is
exactly
the
problem.
AK
This
government
has
disdain
for
the
professionals
who
are
on
the
front
lines
of
our
health
care
System.
They
express
it
in
every
way
and
they
expressed
it
legislatively
in
Bill
21
back
in
2019
yeah.
What
they
said
was
we
don't
care
about
your
working
conditions
and,
let's
not
forget
that
it
wasn't
just
the
ending
of
the
contracts
right.
AK
Of
course,
there
was
all
the
billing
code
and
and
and
the
minister
of
Health
at
the
time
who
was
on
driveways
screaming
at
doctors
or
going
after
doctors
and
finding
their
personal
phone
numbers
and
calling
them
up
to
berate
them.
And
then
it
was,
you
know
just
the
idea
that
we
still
haven't.
We
currently
have
a
premier
who
talks
about
the
fact
that
the
health
care
shortage
was
manufactured,
which
is
completely
flies
in
the
face
of
the
everyday
lived
experience
of
healthcare
professionals
and,
let's
not
even
just
during
the
pandemic
Mr
Speaker.
AK
AK
AK
She
sends
her
minister
of
Health
to
say
it
because
he'll
say
it
that's
great
to
hear,
but
the
premier
won't.
The
premier
has
been
given
multiple
opportunities
to
stand
up
and
encourage
albertans
to
get
a
flu
shot
and
she
won't
do
it.
So
what
she's
saying
to
a
healthcare
professionals
is
I,
don't
care
if
more
people
get
sick.
What
I'll
do
is
I'll
make
sure
that
there's
medication,
that's
a
keep.
That's
a
key
issue.
AQ
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Speaker,
On,
23b
I
I,
have
to
disagree.
I've
been
listening
to
the
member.
It
has
been
related
to
Bill
4,
but
also
the
events
that
have
led
up
to
Bill
4,
which
yes
can
get
broad,
but
we
are
at
second
reading
and
I
think
it's
all
been
in
order
that
having
been
said,
I
I
did
not
actually
hear
the
comment
under
23i
that
the
member
is
referring
to
that
specific
language.
So
I
will
have
to
defer
to
you
Mr
Speaker.
C
Without
the
benefit
of
the
views
and
blues
and
I
am
I'm,
not
100
sure
exactly
what
the
member
said
if
she
did
say
that
it
probably
is
a
point
of
order.
Certainly,
she
has
made
a
number
of
statements
specifically
directed
at
a
member
of
the
assembly
that
could
be
construed
as
accusations
about
a
member,
and
so
it's
ordered
order.
C
So
this
always
moves
us
down
a
trail
of
language,
that's
likely
likely
to
create
disorder,
and
if
the
honorable
member
would
like
to
make
references
to
the
government
or
others,
it's
certainly
depersonalizes.
The
debate
and
I
would
encourage
you
to
do
so.
The
Honorable
member
for
everything
like
that.
AK
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
when
the
government
does
not
send
a
message
to
albertans
about
encouraging
them
to
take
preventative
health
care
actions
that
are
very
clear
actions
that
can
be
taken
to
relieve
pressure
off
of
the
Health
Care
System.
The
message
that
the
government
and
the
leader
of
the
government
is
saying
sending
to
health
care
workers
is
that
we
are
not
interested
in
making
alleviating
the
work
and
the
stress
and
the
strain
that
you're
experiencing.
AK
AK
We
have
all
heard
messages
in
this
chamber:
Mr
Speaker
from
healthcare
workers,
front
line
health
care
workers
who
are
talking
to
us
about
how
burnt
out
they
are
about
working,
doubles
about
working
about
not
finding
somebody
who's
able
to
to
take
over,
and
they
continue
on
the
shift.
We're
seeing
horrific
stories
out
of
children's
hospitals
right
now,
stories
that
are
parents
nightmare
the
idea
of
not
being
able
to
access
the
health
care
not
just
not
being
able
to
access,
but
not
the
quality
of
it.
I
am
terrified
Mr
Speaker,
as
a
parent
in
this
province.
AK
Right
now,
as
something
happened
to
my
child.
That
requires
me
to
go
to
a
children's
hospital
yeah
because
I,
don't
know
the
conditions
and
how
long
they'll
be
waiting
and
I
know
that
the
staff
have
been
working
far
too
hard
for
two
and
a
half
years
to
compensate
for
the
lack
of
judgment
from
this
government
from
disdain
from
this
government
from
disrespect
from
the
working
conditions
and
continuing
to
layer
on
more
and
more
challenges
onto
our
health
care
System
and
it
began
with
this
Mr
Speaker.
It
began
with
what
bill
for
is
attempting
to
address.
AK
Of
course,
the
government
is
now
able
to
stand
up
and
say:
they'll
repeal
the
ability
to
unilaterally
terminate
a
contract
with
the
Alberta
Medical
Association
because
they
already
exercised
it
Mr
Speaker.
They
did
what
they
wanted
to
do
and
they
didn't
have
the
courage
to
speak
to
that
when
they
did
it
and
they
don't
have
the
courage
to
speak
to
it
now.
Mr
Speaker,
when
they're
trying
to
atone
for
it
and
I,
can
say
that
that
means
it's
not
much
of
an
much
of
an
apology.
Is
it
when
they
won't
even
say
the
words.
AK
If
it's
no
longer
necessary
for
this
provision
to
be
there,
they
should
explain
why
they
thought
it
was
necessary
in
the
first
place,
because
this
has
been
two
and
a
half
years
of
an
attack
on
our
Health
Care
system,
which
began
with
this
provision,
which
began
with
a
minister
of
Health
who
was
disdainful
towards
the
very
professionals
which
are
albertans
and
our
Health
Care
Systems
relied
on
during
a
Public
Health
crisis
that
we
hadn't
seen
in
a
generation.
A
giveaway.
AS
Only
oh
gosh
24
48
hours
ago
Monday
our
first
opportunity
to
speak
about
the
discharging
of
folks
from
rotary
Flames
House
of
kids
shouldn't,
say
folks,
kids,
receiving
respite
services.
So
of
course,
at
our
earliest
opportunity.
We
put
forward
a
so
a
standing
order
for
an
emergency
debate
on
children's
health
and
it
was
denied
by
this
government
moments
later
our
leader
put
forward
a
private
member's
Bill
to
address
the
crisis
and
health
care.
AK
Thank
you
to
the
member
from
Edmonton,
Highlands,
Norwood
and
I.
Agree.
I!
Think
that's
a
this
is
a
pattern
right.
We
don't
see
an
actual
acknowledgment
of
the
wrong
that
was
done
here
and
then
it's
it's
pretty
much
impossible
without
that
for
albertans.
To
actually
think
that
this
government
has
learned
any
lessons
or
is
changing
course
at
all.
J
AK
Healthcare
professionals
are
asking
for
to
actually
address,
for
example,
the
most
pressing
Health
Care
crisis
that
we
have
right
now
around
Children's
Health,
although
it's
by
no
means
the
only
Health
Care
crisis,
because
we
know
you
know
continuing
care
and
individuals
who
are
seeking
surgical
treatments
and
and
procedures
are
also
still
delayed,
but
we're
not
seeing
any
acknowledgment
that
any
of
the
actions
taken
so
far
by
this
government
on
these
issues
is
failing.
What
we
have
seen
is
more
chaos.
AK
AK
AK
No
lessons
have
been
learned,
Mr,
Speaker
and
I.
Think
all
albertans
can't
move
forward
unless
we
actually
hear
that
until
we
actually
hear
that
they
understand
that
change
that
they
were,
they
were
wrong.
They
were
wrong
then,
and
they
continue
to
be
wrong
now
and
until
we
have
a
premier
who's,
also
willing
to
lead
on
actually
taking
the
actions
that
our
health
care
System
need
by
encouraging
albertans
to
go
out
and
get
their
flu
shots.
So
let
me
do
that.
AK
C
F
Thank
you
very
much,
colleagues
for
the
debate,
I'm
happy
to
move
to
to
close
debate
on
Bill,
two
and
first
of
all,
I
want
to
say
to
members
across
the
aisle.
Thank
you
for
supporting
this
bill.
That
is,
it
is
greatly
appreciated.
I.
Just
you
know,
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
hear
much
of
the
debate
that
has
gone
on
in
this
chamber
over
the
the
last
few
days
since
we
introduced
this
bill
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
comments
on
on
two
key
facts.
F
You
know
the
first
I
I,
although
I
appreciate
the
the
fact
that
the
members
of
the
opposition
are
willing
to
support
that
support
the
bill.
You
know
I've
also
heard
some
comments
that
you
know.
First,
you
know
some
of
their
concerns
is
they're,
suggesting
that
the
challenge
is
being
faced
in
our
Health
Care
system.
At
this
point
in
time
which
which
are
real,
Mr
Speaker,
but
the
challenges
being
faced,
our
results
of
past
actions
and
past
policies
that
was
taken
by
this
party
earlier
on
in
our
mandate
and
and.
A
F
At
the
same
time,
for
the
same
reasons,
Mr
Speaker
is
covet
that
belies
the
assertion
that
it
was
caused
by
past
policy
choices,
Mr
Speaker,
but
it
rather
is
because
of
the
significant
challenges
that
has
been
posed
by
covet
and
the
impact
that
it's
had
on
our
Health
Care
system
and
on
our
Healthcare
Human
Resources,
Mr
Speaker,
so
so
I
suggest
that
that
assertion
being
made
by
the
other
side,
quite
frankly,
is
is,
is
not
correct.
The
other.
F
The
other
General
comments
that
I've
heard
from
the
other
side
on
this
is
that,
what's
not
in
the
bill,
even
though
they
may
agree
that's
to
removing
element,
the
the
one
aspect
of
40.2
in
the
Alberta
Health
Insurance
act.
What
the
concern
is
is
that,
what's
not
in
the
bill
and
suggesting,
quite
frankly,
that
the
challenges
that
we're
CIS
facing
in
Alberta,
in
terms
of
strains
in
our
Health
Care
system
and
and
lack
of
staff
in
certain
areas
of
the
province
is,
can
be
fixed,
quite
frankly,
by
by
legislation.
F
A
member
earlier
just
commented
about
the
the
private
members
bill
would
address
these
these
these
crisis
in
health
care
and
Mr
Speaker.
The
ways
to
address
these
issues
in
health
care
that
we're
facing
in
any
of
every
other
province
in
the
country
is
facing
is
not
necessarily
through
legislation.
That's
simply
going
to
say
we're
going
to
measure
which
is
in
essence
what
we
already
do.
It
is
through
concrete
actions
and
concrete
plans
that
our
government
is
already
taken
to
address
these
challenges.
Now,
Mr
Speaker.
F
We
talk
about
building
capacity
in
our
in
our
health
care
System.
We
are
spending
more
money
than
we've
ever
spent
before
22
billion
dollars
this
year.
We're
increasing
that
amount.
There's
additional
amounts
on
top
to
deal
with
covid
and
to
deal
with
the
to
get
caught
up
on
on
on
surgeries,
and
we
are
actually
investing
this
money
in
every
part
of
our
health
care.
System,
Mr
Speaker.
F
We
need
to
look
at
a
model,
quite
frankly,
of
primary
care,
community-based
care,
home-based
care,
Mr
Speaker.
We
need
to
look
at
prevention
and
I
was
very
pleased.
Not
only
that
you
know
we
talk
about
prevention,
The,
Honorable,
member
across
the
way.
Just
recently
mentioned
this.
In
terms
of
you
know,
one
thing
is
getting
getting
your
flu
shot
and,
and
we
are
running
a
campaign-
our
government
is
running
a
campaign
right
now.
F
Text
messages
has
recently
come
out
on
this
asking
people
to
make
the
choice
to
get
their
flu
shot
to
protect
themselves,
especially
as
they're
going
through
a
a
a
challenging
flu
season
this
year,
having
not
had
a
basic
flu
season
prior
to
last
spring
for
for
a
number
of
years,
and
we
know
Mr
Speaker,
and
this
brings
it
back
to
the
to
to
Bill
four.
We
know
that
retention
and
attraction
of
of
healthcare
professionals
is
a
challenge.
It's
a
challenge
being
faced
here
in
Alberta,
particularly
in
rural
areas.
F
F
Secondly,
it's
about
stability,
and
this
this
agreement
adds
approximately
750
million
additional
dollars
over
the
next
number
of
years
to
be
able
to
attract
and
retain
doctors,
and
quite
thankfully,
third,
it's
about
Innovation,
because
we
know
the
different
methods
of
pay
need
to
be
put
in
place
and
we
need
to
work
jointly
with
doctors.
The
fee
for
service
model
may
work
good
for
some
Specialties
for,
but
for
others
it
doesn't
promote
Allied
health
professionals
working
together.
F
It
doesn't
promote
dealing
with
patients,
particularly
who
need
complex
care
and
seniors,
so
changing
that
method
to
pay,
and
we
as
a
commitment
in
this
agreement,
to
work
on
that.
So
once
again,
I'm
very
pleased
that
we
reached
this
agreement
with
the
AMA
with
over
70
percent
ratification
rate
and
that
this
can
help
form
the
foundation
for
retention
of
Attraction
and
doctors
and
once
again,
I
want
to
thank
the
honorable
members
on
the
other
side
of
the
aisle
for
agreeing
to
to
support
this
bill
and
with
that
Mr
Speaker.
C
The
members
the
minister
of
Health
has
moved
second
reading
of
Bill
four
Alberta
Health
Care
insurance
Amendment
act.
2022.
Does
the
assembly
agree
to
the
motion
for
second
reading?
If
so,
please
say
aye.
Do
they
opposed?
Please
say
no.
In
my
opinion,
the
eyes
have
a
demotion
is
carried
and
so
ordered.
C
AT
AT
So
Bill
3
is
really
sort
of
not
a
not
a
correction
but
I
guess
the
next
step
of
Bill,
206
and
people
will
probably
remember.
Bill
206
was
I
think
originally
introduced
by
the
member
for
Cypress,
Medicine,
Hat
and
then
was
I
think
there
was
unanimous
consent
to
change
the
number
and
it
became
Brooks
Medicine
Hat.
AT
So,
as
we
have
said
previously,
we
support
this
legislation
to
bring
property
rights
and
remedies
in
line
with
legislation
in
other
provinces
in
the
country.
So
in
fact,
what
happened
with
Bill
206
there
was.
There
were
a
number
of
issues
that
were
identified
in
bill
206.,
I
I.
Don't
I
can't
remember
exactly
what
happened
at
the
time
and
didn't
have
a
chance
to
read
through
Hansard,
but
ultimately
it
did
get
referred
to
a
special
or
select
special
committee
on
real
property
rights,
which
issued
a
report
in
June
of
2022.
AT
I
was
not
on
that
committee,
so
it
was
quite
helpful
to
have
the
report
to
look
at
and
to
see
it's
actually
quite
interesting.
Mr
Speaker
I
think
the
report
sort
of
lays
out
in
detail.
The
consultation
that
was
involved,
which
is
terrific
and
I,
will
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
various
consultation
processes
that
have
impacted
or
or
resulted
in
what
we
see
today
with
Bill
Trina.
AT
So
what
Bill
3
does
is
what
Bill
3
does.
Is
it
click?
It
provides
some
clear
rules
within
and
across
jurisdictions
that
can
help
create
some
economic
certainty
and
good
relations
actually
between
neighbors
and
businesses,
and
it,
my
colleague
from
Edmonton
White
mud
yesterday
I
think,
did
a
really
good
job
about
sort
of
putting
on
her
lawyer
hat
and
telling
us
giving
us
a
little
bit
of
background
about
why
this
was
essential
and
where
some
of
the
confusion
would
come
up
with
the
under
property
rights,
and
that
was
quite
helpful.
AT
But
so
it's
easy
to
understand
why
we,
there
would
be
some
confusion
or
a
potential
conflict
between
neighbors
and
businesses,
so
clear
rules
that
are
created
as
a
result
of
extensive
consultation
on
the
subject,
consultation
with
subject,
experts
with
people
that
are
requesting
these
changes
is
really
important.
Now
you
know,
strangely
enough
what
will
likely
happen
tonight
as
it
relates
to
Bill
one
is
you
know
the
government
on
who
are
unwilling
clearly
to
hear
more
about
why
Bill
one
is
just
a
disaster
and
needs
to
go.
AT
Is
that
you
know
they're,
shutting
down
debate
and
they
haven't
done
their
homework
in
terms
of
consultation,
now
they've
likely
talked
to
their
friends
and
insiders,
and
you
know
Rebel,
Media
or
whatever
they
talk
to,
but
you
know
they
have
not
done
a
good
job
in
consultation
and
my
colleague
the
critic
for
indigenous
Affairs,
I
think
was
has
been
very
clear
about.
We
have
a
duty
to
consult
before
we
bring
this
legislation
forward
before
we
start
having
these
debates
and
voting
and
clearly
that
has
not
been
done
now.
AT
Members
opposite
have
have
said
the
opposite
and
said
you
know
yeah.
We
picked
up
the
phone
or
someone
called
me,
or
we
did
this,
but
there's
no
clear
consultation
process.
A
meaningful
consultation
process
requires
time
and
effort,
as
you'll
hear
a
little
later
in
this
bill
debate,
so
that
has
not
happened
with
Bill
one
and
that's
unfortunate,
because
I
think
most
of
us
can
agree
when
we
take
the
time
to
actually
speak
to
the
correct
people
and
putting
party.
AT
You
know
parties,
political
parties
aside
or
alliances
aside,
but
when
you
actually
take
the
time
to
identify
who
the
subject
experts
are,
who
are
the
people
that
will
be
impacted
by
the
legislation
when
you
take
the
time
to
speak
to
them
and
hear
their
ideas?
You
just
create
better
legislation,
and
obviously
that
was
not
done
with
Bill
one
as
Bill
one
is,
is
more
of
a
a
political
game.
I
would
say
in
any
events
this
bill,
the
property
rights.
AT
Amendment
Act,
is
an
is
an
example
of
a
bill
drafted
after
consultation,
after
receiving
advice
from
communities
and
stakeholders
and
experts,
one
of
those
experts
being
the
Alberta
law
reform
Institute.
So
we
know
the
bill
was
the
subject
of
public
consultation,
as
discussed
by
a
legislative
committee
over
several
several
weeks
and
as
such,
the
bill
provides
an
example
to
the
UCP,
as
I
mentioned,
about
what
is
an
appropriate
and
lawful
process
for,
and
powers
of,
the
legislative
branch
branch.
AT
So
the
bill
acknowledges
the
role
that
the
courts
and
the
judicial
branch
Branch
must
play
to
arbitrate
disputes
and
provide
remedies
between
parties,
so,
in
short,
the
bill
and
the
process
to
draft
it
run
absolutely
contrary
to
the
ucp's
bill
one.
So
it's.
You
know
that
it's
not
lost
on
me
that
this
particular
bill
that
took
a
whole
lot
longer
to
develop
than
Bill.
One
is
actually
in
line
with
our
jobs.
AT
Obviously-
and
it
does
not
respect
the
separation
of
powers
again,
I
would
just
like
to
again
add
to
the
record
that
bill
one
is:
is
such
a
good
contrast
to
this
particular
piece
of
legislation
and
I,
don't
mind,
saying
that
I
am
quite
happy
that
Bill
3
came
with
as
much
work
as
it
did
and
I
think
for
those
of
you
that
have
not
had
a
look
at
the
select
special
committee
on
real
property
rights.
Their
final
report
that
was
issued
on
June
2022,
oh
2022
I,
would
encourage
you
to
do
that.
Yeah.
AQ
No,
and
thank
you
very
much
to
my
colleague
and
I
I-
think
the
contrast
between
Bill
3
and
Bill
one
is
an
excellent
one,
particularly
given
when
you
look
at
the
public
report
on
from
the
the
select
special
committee,
and
you
see
how
many
public
members
were
able
to
come
into
the
presentations
when
you're
able
to
see
how
many
submissions
were
received
and
and
really
the
the
in-depth
process
us
now.
Of
course,
we
know
Bill
3.
AS
AT
Thank
you
to
the
member,
and
that
is
an
excellent
point.
I
think
the
the
differences
between
you
know
Bill
one
which
is
you
know,
job
killing,
sovereignty
act,
and
this
bill
bill
three
is
is
just
very
Stark.
One
took
a
long
time
to
develop
and
I
think
as
the
member
noted
that
it
came
through
private
member
bills
and
it
has
been
debated
actually
over
a
number
of
years
and
then
to
have
this
special
select
committee.
Take
a
deep
dive
and
you
know:
do
the
road
show
like
they
did.
AT
I
think
it
was
a
really
terrific
idea
to
make
sure
that
everybody
had
a
chance
to
weigh
in.
But
you
know
this
this
hope
I'm
not
interrupting
you
over
there.
The
bill
is
an
example
of
the
government,
realizing
that
it
got
it
wrong
in
its
2020
Bill
and
it
went
back
and
did
some
significant
consultation
and
committee
work
to
correct
the
bill,
which
I
actually
do
appreciate,
and
you
know
Madam
speaker
I
would
say
none
of
us
always
get
it
right
for
sure
nobody's
perfect.
We
all
make
mistakes.
AT
Sometimes
we
forget
steps
in
a
process
that
we
need
to
take.
That's
that's
completely
normal.
It
happens,
I
think
it
takes
a
big
person
or
a
big
government.
That's
odd
that
I'm
saying
a
big
cabinet.
You
guys
are
a
big
government
that
you
know
it
takes
a
a
mature
government-
maybe
let's
say
a
mature
government
to
realize
you
know
what
we
can
make
this
better.
AT
We
can
stop
and
really
consult
and
make
it
better
and
I
wish
Madam
speaker
that
that
would
be
sort
of
the
the
tools
that
would
be
used
for
other
bills,
because
so
many
times
we
have
seen
things
arrive
here
and
then
get
jammed
through
with
time
Outlook.
You
know,
time
is
cut
off
we're
not
able
to
debate
as
long
as
we'd
like
to
and
things
just
go
ahead,
and
then
these
unanticipated
consequences
and
then
harm
continues,
and
it's
really
really
difficult
to
undo
that
damage
go.
AS
Ahead,
thank
you
to
the
member
from
St
Albert
for
for
letting
me
interject
and
I.
Just
you
know,
I
just
wanted
to
point
out.
You
know
the
the
mention
of
the
fact
that,
from
from
the
member
from
Edmonton
Mill
Woods
as
well,
which
was
a
very
active
point
about
the
level
of
consultation
I
know,
some
of
our
members
have
spoken
to
this
bill
and
talked
about
the
committee
work
and
the
Deep
level
of
consultation
and,
of
course,
all
coming
through
private
members,
bills
and
I.
AT
Oh,
thank
you
Chief,
the
member
for
for
those
comments
and
she's
you
know
quite
right
is
that
there
are
very
different
standards
for
government
members
and
for
opposition
members,
and
you
know
rarely
do
we
are
the
the
bills
that
we
bring
forward.
Are
they
given
the
same
treatment
that
you
know
the
government
bills
are
and
or
the
private
member
bills
from
the
government
side
are
and
which
is
again,
you
know
not
great
I.
AT
I
am
quite
thankful
that
there
was
a
bit
of
a
change
that
you
know
our
our
bills
will
not
go
to
committee,
but
then
again
we
saw
the
you
know,
shenanigans
that
happened
the
other
day
when
our
bill,
our
first
private
member
bill,
was
introduced
and
then
got
shoved
down
to
the
bottom
of
the
order
paper.
So
we're
never
going
to
be
able
to
debate
it.
So
once
again
you
see
a
government
that
is
really
they
don't
seem
to
be
really
big
supporters
of
democracy.
AT
AT
If
members
will
remember
that
included
pretty
much
everything
but
the
kitchen
sink,
and
it
was
a
lot
of
damage
and
one
of
the
pieces
of
damaging
one
of
the
damaging
changes
that
were
contained
in
that
Omnibus
Bill
were
de-indexation
of
benefits,
and
not
just
age
that
was
de-indexation
of
benefits
for
seniors,
low-income
seniors,
yes,
I'm
contrasting
with
this
bill,
Madam
speaker,
so
that
particular
piece
of
legislation
is
unlike
this
and
what
we
tried
to
say
at
that
time
is
this:
what
you're
doing
here
is
going
to
harm
people?
We
know
this.
AT
It's
going
to
add
pressure
to
food
banks.
We
know
this
it's
going
to
contribute
to
homelessness.
We
know
this
and
now
three,
three
years
later
we
see
it,
it
has
happened,
and
so
you
know,
Madam,
speaker
I,
hope
that,
like
Bill
3
that
we
will
all
have
an
ability
to
when,
when
we're
saying
look,
this
is
a
problem.
This
is
going
to
harm
a
lot
of
people.
The
government
will
listen
and
actually
do
do
their
jobs
and
consult
and
find
out.
Are
we
correct?
Is
that
correct?
Is
that
information
correct?
AT
Can
we
actually
prove
or
say
with
certainty
that
this
bill
will
not
harm
albertans,
and
that
has
not
been
the
case
so
Mr?
We
urge
the
government
to
use
its
own
Bill
3
as
an
example
of
how
the
legislative
process
can
and
should
work.
So,
for
example,
when
the
landowners
have
a
dispute,
they
can
refer
to
the
clarified
guidelines.
AK
AK
You
know,
as
you
said,
this,
this
bill
is
a
way
that,
as
a
member
said,
this
bill
is
a
way
to
really
clarify
and
and
take
resp
responsive
action
to
consultation
right
to
really
engage
with
people
and
to
hear
what
would
what
would
be
clear.
And,
as
you
mentioned,
this
is
not
something
we
have
seen
happen
very
often
with
some
other
government
member
bills.
And
in
fact,
when
you
talk
about
a
clear
process
and
clarification
that
is
happening
under
Bill
3
I'm
wondering
if
you
can
contrast
that
to.
AK
For
example,
there
was
a
very
unclear
process
under
the
the
government's
Bill
one,
which
was
introduced
in
this
very
same
session
right,
which
actually
provided
a
lot
of
uncertainty
and
Chaos,
and
continues
to
do
so,
whereas
this
bill
seems
very
much
focused
on
trying
to
actually
make
it
clear
to
albertans
how
to
exercise
their
rights
and
how
to
seek
that
guidance
from
the
courts
where
necessary,
but
also
how
to
resolve
matters
themselves.
So
you
know.
Is
there
a
contrast
here
that
you
see
between
those
two.
AR
AT
Thank
you,
madam
speaker,
so
certainly
again,
I
mean
it
couldn't
be
more
clear,
Stark
that
this
particular
piece
of
legislation
actually
there's
a
lot
of
thought
put
into
it.
There's
a
lot
of
consultation
and
I
wish.
We
could
say
that
about
other
pieces
of
legislation,
particularly
Bill,
one
and
I-
think
that
you
know
albertans
will
recognize
when,
when
somebody
I
mean
when
you're
having
a
conversation
with
someone
and
they're
trying
to
shut
you
up,
there's
a
reason.
AT
So
it's
been
a
few
days
of
you
know
a
lot
of
opposition,
a
lot
of
comments
in
the
public,
a
lot
of
concerns,
a
lot
of
questions
with
no
answers,
and
it
is
very
confusing,
and
now
we
find
out,
you
know
likely
we're
not
going
to
have
much
more
time
to
debate,
but
any
event
Bill
3
is
not
that
I
am
grateful
for
that
now.
There
are
three
concerns
that
we,
as
a
caucus,
do
have
I'm,
really
hopeful
at
later
stages
that
we'll
get
some
answers
from
the
government
side.
AT
I'm,
not
hugely
optimistic,
because
their
MO
seems
to
be
say,
nothing
don't
make
eye
contact
run
away.
So
the
three
concerns
that
we
have.
First
of
all,
we
would
like
the
assembly
to
be
exceedingly
clear
that
indigenous
and
treaty
rights
will
be
respected,
are
respected
in
the
context
proposed
in
this
legislation,
so
that
would
include
First,
Nations,
metis
and
Inuit
right
holders.
AT
AT
So
it's
a
really
easy
answer
and
you
know
it
would
be
very
disappointing
if
we
heard
again
from
you
know
the
minister
responsible
for
indigenous
Affairs
of
you
know
we
tend
to
get
answers
like
we
ask
about
consultation,
we
get
things
like
well
yeah,
you
know
I
contact
a
couple
people
or
they
called
me
up.
That's
not
consultation.
Those
are
phone
calls.
Consultation
is
a
process.
It's
a
well
thought
out.
Process
that
looks
at
who
are
the
stakeholders,
who
will
be
impacted,
usually
takes
time,
often
costs
money,
but
it's
really
important
and
essential.
AT
AT
The
second
concern
the
Alberta
law
reform
Institute
and
in
their
blog
from
August
21
2021,
and
that
was
Stella.
Varvis
has
proposed
that
a
tribunal,
Ombudsman
or
alternate
dispute
resolution
should
be
considered
along
with
the
legislative
Amendment,
so
that
it
doesn't
create
unnecessary,
unnecessary
capacity
issues
for
the
courts.
Now,
obviously,
we
often
hear
this
when
we
are
debating
legislation.
Is
you
know,
let's
not
inadvertently,
add
pressure
to
systems
that
are
already
overwhelmed?
Let's
not
inadvertently
create
more
difficulties.
AT
AN
They're
concerned
about
a
property
line
that
that
maybe
has
been
mistrawn
fencing
line
or
it's
a
perhaps
a
neighbor
who
has
in
in
putting
a
driveway
into
their
Farm
yard,
has
gone
across
a
property
line,
often
not
knowing
they've
done
that.
But
having
had
that
occur
and
in
many
of
the
cases
the
issues
have
have
been
created
many
years
prior
to
the
constituent
coming
into
my
office.
AN
And,
of
course
the
constituent
that
would
come
into
my
office
would
be
a
little
frustrated.
Maybe
a
great
great
deal
frustrated,
because
in
many
cases
they
had
never
even
heard
of
adverse
land
rights
or
squatters
rights,
as
sometimes
they
call
it.
In
my
neck
of
the
woods
but
Bill
3,
the
property
rights
statute's
amendment
Act
is
designed
to
stop
people
from
taking
ownership
of
someone
else's
land
and
the
property
rights
statute.
AN
AN
It
will
remove
the
burden
from
registered
property
owners
to
be
continually
monitoring
their
land.
In
order
to
prevent
people
from
taking
possession
and
over
a
period
of
time
claiming
squatters
rights,
this
legislation
should
it
be
passed,
will
allow
registered
Property
Owners
to
get
a
court
order
at
any
time
to
regain
possession
of
their
property
from
someone
who
illegally
occupies
it.
AN
AN
AN
and
in
its
final
report
they
recommended
the
abolition,
abolishment
of
adverse
possession
other
provinces
and
territories
like
Saskatchewan
in
New
Brunswick
in
the
Yukon
Territory,
have
had
to
address
the
issue
of
adverse
possession
and
they've
done
so
by
passing
laws.
Banning
squatters
rights,
property
rights,
Advocates,
like
the
farmers
and
property
rate
Advocate
Peter
J
Dobie,
are
in
support
of
this
bill.
AN
Removing
adverse
possession
will
bring
some
peace
of
mind
to
registered
landowners
and
ensure
that
they
can
use
and
enjoy
their
registered
property
and
I
know
that
for
the
constituents
that
have
come
into
my
office,
they
will
be
supporting
and
want
me
to
support
this
bill.
This
bill
would
have
helped
them
five
or
six
years
ago
when
they
were
coming
into
my
office.
AN
This
doesn't
happen
very
often,
but
I
know
that
the
constituents
that
I
have
met
with
were
absolutely
at
their
wit's
end,
trying
to
address
the
the
issue
over
squatters
rights
on
what
should
have
been
their
land,
and
so
Madam
speaker
I,
believe
that
this
is
a
good
bill.
I
believe
it
addresses
a
an
issue
that
for
some
constituents
across
and
people
across
this
province
has
become
an
issue,
and
so,
for
this
reason
I
will
be
supporting
this
Bill.
Thank
you,
madam
speaker.
AR
AU
Thank
you,
madam
speaker,
please,
to
rise
to
speak
to
the
bill.
Three
property
rights.
Amendment
act
as
this
house
well
knows.
Former
real
estate
agent
of
30
years
has,
as
such,
a
have
a
great
interest
in
any
legislation,
oppose
legislation
which
touches
upon
property
rights
and
and
real
estate
in
his
Province
and
I
know
that
in
my
career
of
course,
I
have
had
situations
personally,
where
there
were
incidents
of
defined
adverse
possession
that
occurred
on
properties
that
I
had
listed
or
was
intending
to
sell
to
a
buyer
and
often
Madam
speaker.
AU
That's
in
the
wooded
area
and
lives
on
it
for
a
while
and
takes
possession
in
hopes
of
taking
over
the
land
where,
in
a
malicious
way,
from
the
legitimate
owner
by
relying
upon
adverse
possession
claims.
Of
course,
we're
very
pleased
I'm,
very
pleased.
As
a
former
realtor,
to
see
this
property
rights.
Amendment
act
come
forward
to
address
adverse
possession
and
and
a
ball
of.
AU
But
of
course,
there
are
some
concerns
that
I
still
have
that
linger
around
the
remaining
assets
that
may
be
on
land
that
were
subject
to
adverse
possession
claims
and
the
satisfaction
of
disputes
over
those
improvements
between
the
former
claimant
of
adverse
possession
or
who
somebody
who's
built.
Something
on
somebody
else's
land
and
now
wants
to
be
compensated.
Fort
following
the
rules
and
regulations
contained
in
in
Bill,
3,
the
property
rights
amendment
act
and,
of
course,
Madam
speaker.
AU
We
all
know
that
in
business
time
is
of
the
essence
and
whether
it's
a
piece
of
of
rural
property
between
farmers
or
agricultural
producers,
or
somebody
owns
a
a
recreational
tree
lot
for
hunting
purposes
or
just
simply
Recreation
purposes
or
whether
it's
a
downtown
personal
land
in
Calgary
or
Edmonton,
where
someone
has
inadvertently
built
across
a
property
line
and
is
now
seeking
a
compensation.
Now
there
are
other
remedies
that
may
be
available
in
Lobby
in
case
of
an
adverse
possession
claim
where
there
are
improvements
that
are
situated
on
the
property.
AU
This
legislation
attempts
to
address
how,
indeed,
those
disputes
will
be
settled,
how
the
individual,
who
has
built
improvements
on
the
land,
whether
it
be
a
well
or
whether
it
be
a
house
or
a
building
or
any
type
of
a
structure.
How
that
individual
may
get
compensated
for
the
improvements
that
they
put
on
the
land
that
they
in
fact
didn't
own.
AU
So
I
wonder
and
I
want
to
seek
real
clarification,
The
Madam,
speaker
and
I'm
sure
all
members
of
the
Alberta
Real
Estate
Association
would
be
interested
in
hearing
this,
as
well
as
to
how
the
protest
is
really
going
to
work,
because
if
it
indeed
is,
does
not
incent
a
an
individual
who
was
who
improv?
Who
is
is
seeking
compensation
for
improvements
on
land
that
is
not
theirs
if
it
does
not
incent
them
to
be
seeking
that
compensation
in
a
timely
manner.
AU
If
this
bill
goes
ahead
and
abolishes
the
adverse
possession,
but
in
fact
allows
the
landowner
to
be
over
a
long
period
of
time
suffering
the
effects
of
a
of
a
foot
dragging
a
former
holder
of
that
land
because
they
see
it's
in
their
best
interest
not
to
settle.
Then
of
course,
the
full
remedy
to
that
landowner
has
not
been
it
acted.
So
that's
a
fairly
significant
concern
that
I
have,
but
it
also
speaks
I.
AU
Think
this
this
this
whole
property,
Rights,
Amendments,
Act
and
the
concept
of
property
rights,
speaks
to
the
real
importance
Madam
speaker
of
maintaining
the
publicly
housed
and
administered
Land
Titles
registry
office.
There
was
an
attempt,
earlier
by
this
government
to
sell
off
the
Land
Titles
registry
that
was
abruptly
halted.
I
fear
that
they
will
make
another
run
at
this
and
try
it
again,
but
I
think
it's
a
very
good
evidence.
AU
Mr
Madam
speaker
about
the
importance
of
maintaining
the
sacrosanct
nature
of
public
ownership
and
operation
and
having
that
data
Bank
housed
under
the
Under,
the
Dome.
Let's
say
of
a
public
registry,
because
people
in
business
need
to
have
absolute
confidence
in
the
Land
Titles
registry
system.
There
are
other
systems
in
operation,
even
in
Canada,
which
are
less
reliable.
AU
I
know
that
you'll
have
a
title
deed
system
which
goes
back
to
the
the
parish
set
up
in
in
Quebec,
which
is
necessitating
people
to
search
title
in
successive
searches
to
chain
one
a
piece
of
title
and
ownership
to
another.
That
also
happens
in
the
United
States,
where
you
have
title
deed
companies,
private
corporations,
which
can
charge
a
lot
of
money
for
somebody
to
search
and
verify
title,
but
indeed
you
relying
upon
corporate
paper
to
verify
your
ownership.
AU
Whereas
here
in
the
province,
we
have
a
system
of
land
registration
which
is
guaranteed
by
the
province
and
there's
an
assurance
fund
which
will
take
care
of
compensating
individuals
for
mistakes
made
on
title.
But
they
are
very
rare
indeed-
and
that
is
something
Madam
speaker
that
in
this
particular
case,
where
we
see
cases
of
of
adverse
possession
and
the
the
lingering
improvements
that
are
being
compensated
for
over
time
is
something
that
the
real
landowner
can
rely
upon.
I'll
yield
to
the
intervention
I.
AS
Thank
you
and
I
I
really
truly
hated
to
interrupt
the
member
from
empty
McClung
because
of
course,
as
a
for
do
I,
say
formal,
realtor,
former
okay,
because
like
as
teachers,
we
like
to
not
say
former
because
you're,
like
always
a
teacher
but
anyways
as
a
realtor,
former
realtor
he's
got
a
very
in-depth
understanding
and
I.
Actually
I
was
learning
a
little
bit
there.
You
know
with
his
reference
to
the
Paris
system
in
Quebec
and
whatnot.
AS
That's
all
news
to
me
and
you
know
I
especially
appreciated
his
comments
around
Land
Titles,
because
I
do
know.
You
know
I'm.
Admittedly,
I
don't
hear
a
lot
about
property
rights
in
in
my
own
writing.
But
I
have
heard
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
delays
with
with
Land
Titles
claims
and
I
know
that
a
lot
of
albertans
are
are
struggling
with
with
some
of
that
and
service
Alberta
was
was
planning
to
try
to
address
some
of
those
big
concerns.
AS
But
no
I
I
would
appreciate
the
the
member
to
just
continue
talking
about
some
of
the
connections
there
with
with
Land
Titles
and
and
what
we
see
in
the
property
rights
amendment
act
because,
as
always,
I
learn
a
great
deal
from
my
former
realtor
counterpart,
the
member
from
Edmonton,
McClung
and
I
must
say
as
well.
You
know,
I'm
appreciative
of
the
member
sorry
go
ahead.
AU
Thank
you,
Amber
from
the
highlands
Norwood
I
must
say,
even
though
technically
I'm
no
longer
a
realtor,
because
I
gave
up
my
real
estate
license
to
avoid
any
conflict
of
interest.
Once
I
was
elected
I'm,
always
as
many
Realtors
are
a
realtor
at
heart.
So
I
take
a
very
strong
interest
in
issues
regarding
real
estate
matters,
and
this
is
no
exception.
AU
So
yeah
the
the
land
title's
office
is,
is
really
at
the
heart
of
the
issue
of
property
rights,
because
that
is
what
people
rely
upon
in
this
province
to
verify
their
ownership
of
title
and
it
it's
a
simple
matter
of
of
pulling
your
title
and
and
looking
at
it
and
say:
there's
your
name
and
and
the
government
of
Alberta
guarantees
and
assures
that
that
title
is
correct
and
in
many
jurisdictions
in
Canada
and
around
the
world.
It's
not
so
clear
as
to
who
actually
owns
land.
AU
Do
you
have
to
paper
together
your
verification
of
ownership
and
the
disputes
over
that,
or
are
many
and
it's
a
costly
thing
to
actually
verify
a
title
and
you
have
to
buy
insurance
and
insurance
is
available
here
too,
but
that
for
insurance
is
more
widely
used
now
than
it
used
to
be
before,
because
there
are
Land
Titles
operation
in
the
province
has
been
understaffed.
Now
a
lot
of
people
were
laid
off
and
they
haven't
been
hired
back.
AU
For
those
improvements.
Time
is
of
the
essence
in
every
business
transaction,
including
real
estate
transactions,
Madam,
speaker
and
right
now,
Land
Titles,
which
used
to
be
a
proud,
a
proud
operation
of
Alberta's
government
and
it
used
to
operate
in.
You
know
carbon
paper
style
down
at
the
Brownlee
building
and,
and
it
actually
worked
pretty
well,
it's
updated
to
a
certain
extent.
But
now
we
can't
even
go
to
get
counter
servers.
AU
I
had
an
individual
at
my
office
a
couple
days
ago
who
tried,
because
she
wanted
to
change
her,
go
back
to
her
maiden
name
after
going
through
a
divorce
on
the
land
title
and
was
unable
to
have
anybody.
Do
anything
at
the
Brownlee
building
at
the
land
title's
office,
because
everything's
now
online.
So
she
had
to
make
us
an
online
submission
to
to
do
to
even
gain
access.
AU
There
are
many
more
things
that
the
government
needs
to
be
doing
with
respect
to
the
proper
transaction
of
Land
Titles
and
the
registry
in
in
the
province
of
Alberta,
and
you
know
we,
we
have
a
government
here
that
talks
about
being
a
a
strong
supporter
of
business
and
economic
development.
Yet
we've
got
a
land
title
system,
one
of
the
fundamental
activities
a
business
is
the
transaction
of
land
and
it's
being
held
up
and
lawyers
are
actually
at
their
wits
and
Madam.
AU
Speaker
I
spoken
to
a
gentleman
who
I
used
to
do
real
estate
transactions
with
regularly
who's.
A
real
estate
lawyer
in
town
and
I
found
that
they
are
no
longer
able
to
extend
insurance
and
reassurances
between
themselves
to
to
allow
transactions
to
close
they're
they're
at
the
capacity
of
the
insurance
limitations
between
themselves,
even
using
Western
protocol,
and
they
don't
know
where
they're
going
to
go
beyond
this.
So
the
answer,
of
course,
is
to
get
Land
Titles
up
to
speed
and
hire
the
people
who
need
to
be
hired.
AU
I
know
that
the
minister
suggested
that
we're
going
to
have
the
individuals
who
were
being
trained
right
now.
Do
the
simple
stuff
and
then
continue
on
with
the
training
for
those
that
needed
to
be
trained
further
for
more
complex
matters,
but
it's
not
working
and
it's
really
taking
way
too
long.
So
I
mean
the
legal
Community
once
again
is
screaming
loud
and
clear.
AU
But
the
government
is
responding
really
slowly
whether
it
happened
to
be
legal
aid,
lawyers
or
lawyers
operating
in
business,
not
only
just
real
estate
transactions
or
for
for
residential
houses,
but
we're
talking
about
multi-million
dollar
transactions
that
are
holding
up
a
construction
of
a
major
building
holding
up
development
of
land,
and
that
is
a
cost,
a
huge
cost
to
our
Alberta
economy.
So
I'd
like
to
see
more
attention
paid
to
that
Madam
speaker
and
quick
and
Rapid
attention,
so
that
our
land
title's
office
doesn't
lose
the
Integrity
that
it's
it's
enjoyed
over
decades
and
that's.
AU
That
would
be
a
very
damaging
thing
to
have
happen
and
it
is.
It
is
not
it's
suffering
the
reputation
of
Alberta's
land
titles
registration
system
is
suffering
under
this
government
and
that's
something
that
they
would
be
remiss
not
to
to
pay
strong
attention
to
and
consult
widely
and
listen
to.
Those
individuals
who
are
stakeholders
in
the
area
of
transacting
real
estate
in
the
province,
particularly
the
the
lawyers
who
represent
their
clients
and
and
buyers,
and
sellers
and
transacting
real
estate,
listen
to
the
the
the
paralegals
who
work
for
them.
AU
AS
Goodness
again,
I
hate,
the
member
is
still
giving
a
very
eloquent
discussion
about
Land
Titles
and
again,
you
know
obviously
Clear
Connection
to
Clear
Connection
to
the
bill
in
front
of
us.
You
know
I
would
I
would
be
curious.
You
know
without
without
referring
to
the
presence
or
absence
of
members,
but
you
know
if
the
if
the
minister
for
service
Alberta
were
able
to
weigh
in
a
little
bit
on
on
some
of
these
changes.
I
would
I'd
be
very
curious
to
hear.
In
particular,
you
know.
AS
We've
we've
heard
from
and
I
started
to,
I
was
cut
off
earlier,
but
I
started
to
commend
the
member
from
Drayton
Valley
Devon
for
weighing
in
on
this,
because
you
know,
I
I
was
I,
asked
him.
Actually,
as
I
came
back
in
the
chamber,
I
said:
don't
don't
your
members
care
about
this
topic
and
he
said
darn
right
I'm
going
to
talk
about
it
right
away,
which
was
great
and
I
came
up.
AS
I
gave
a
thumbs
up,
so
I
would
I
would
love
if,
if
other
members
would
win
because
as
I've
noted
multiple
times,
I
know,
members
in
this
in
the
government
side
hear
about
property
rights,
hear
about
squatters
rights,
I'm
sure
the
member
from
rimby
Rocky,
Mountain
House.
Something
has
heard
about
this
from
sundry-
has
heard
about
this
Lots
from
his
constituents.
AU
Thank
you,
madam
speaker.
Thank
you
for
that
intervention
and
the
pointing
out
the
the
lack
of
interest
on
the
government
members
parts
to
participate
in
this
debate.
I
one
would
have
thought
given
how
critically
important
it
is
to
the
business
Community
in
this
province
to
have
any
anything
that
is
a
detriment
to
the
transaction
of
real
estate
act
as
an
impediment
to
business.
AU
Frustration
with
this
government
over
the
length
of
time
is
taking
to
get
the
bottleneck
at
Land.
Titles
click
fixed,
and
the
biggest
problem,
of
course,
is
that
the
there
are
a
number
of
people
who
were
were
fired
were
let
go
at
the
land
title's
office
and
they
haven't
been
replaced
and
the
you
know
they
to
minister
responsible
is
looking
to
train
up
people.
But
it's
taken
a
long
time
and
is
costing
our
businesses
a
fortune.
AV
Thank
you,
madam
speaker.
This
is
my
pleasure
to
rise
in
the
house
and
be
able
to
add
comments.
My
comments
to
the
Bell
will
three
property
rights:
amendment
Act
behalf
of
my
constituents
and
also
as
well
concerned
algorithms,
so
I'm
happy
to
see
this
Bella
is
actually
being
debated
and
there
seemed
to
be
agreement
on
both
sides
of
the
houses
and
on
this
Mill
being
discussed.
The
and
this
will
is
also
outcome
of
the
albertal
reform
Institute
survey.
AV
I,
was
looking
in
this
report.
The
reports
of
albertal
are
Farm
Institutes
survey,
where
it's
conclude
that
the
adverse
possessions
rewards
a
deliberate
tresposters
and
penalize
registered
owners
who
was
forced
to
give
up
some
of
their
title
lands
without
any
compensations
continues
to
persist,
despite
the
fact
that
successful
cases
are
relatively
rare,
so
I
understand
that
in
the
stakeholders
advocated
for
this,
and
there
was
a
report
that
is
conducted
and
I
also,
you
know
understand.
This
is
the
way
the
work
should
have
been
done.
AV
Generally
speaking-
and
also
you
know,
this
well
particular
particularly
to
me
that
reminds
that
how
important
is
to
be
open-minded
because
how
things
change
over
time,
so
what
is
important
today
might
not
be
interpreted
into
the
same
context
after
some
time
when
I
was
looking
the
squatter's
law
and
I
remembered
those
days.
My
childhood
days
conflicts
and
contradictions
around
these
laws.
There
was
a
pressure
from
public,
and
also
there
was
a
reaction,
and
we
call
this
bill
will
bring
economic
certainty.
That
is
true.
AV
It
is
important,
but
men
these
bills
were
being
introduced,
particularly
by
the
non-socialist
countries,
are
then
developing
countries,
so
they
were
aimed
at
bringing
economic
equality
so
very
interesting
to
see.
After
50
years,
things
have
changed,
and
now
I
am
standing
in
the
house
and
and
I'm
speaking
in
favor
of
something
that
I
was
looking
very
differently
back
30
40
years
ago.
AV
AV
They
would
live
year
and
years
and
decades
and
decades
and
properties,
and
you
know,
basically
pay
off
those
properties
for
the
landlords
but
never
been
able
to
in
their
lifetimes.
You
know
to
see
a
such
up
house
for
themselves
being
able
to
Belt
I
think
it
was
also
there
in
a
way
to
address
the
housing
issues
and
I
also
saw
these
laws
being
abused
in
my
lifetime.
As
you
know,
that
happened
to
often
to
have
Senti
landlords
have
public
servants
of
people
moving
being
transferred
from
one
places
to
the
other
and
then
ending
up.
AV
AS
My
colleague
thank
you
to
the
member
from
Edmonton,
Meadows
and
I
hesitate
to
interact
because
he's
also
drawing
on
his
own
experience.
You
know
working
obviously
in
Insurance
in
a
number
of
fields
that
you
know
where
he's
he's
dealing
with
landowners
and
whatnot,
but
I
am
curious.
You
know,
I
was
genuine
when
I
said
earlier
that
this
isn't
a
topic
that
I've
I've
heard
at
the
doors
in
Emmett
and
Island
Starwood,
but
I
am
absolutely
certain.
Many
folks
have
another
and
other
writings
and
I'm
just
curious.
AS
If,
if
the
member
has
heard
anything
specifically
about
the
property
rights,
amend,
Amendment
act
could
be
like
the
member
from
Edmonton
McClung.
You
know,
Land
Titles
is
something
that
you've
heard
a
little
bit
about.
I
would
just
love
to
hear
if,
if
this
you
know
if
this
is
something
that
your
constituents
are
are
reaching
out
about
and
if
so
what
is
what
is
the
nature
of
their
of
their
feedback
of
their
concerns?
Because,
admittedly
you
know
it's
it's
topic.
AS
AV
Thank
you
all
remember
for
the
question
you
know.
Definitely
as
as
this
report
says,
you
know,
I'll
just
refer
to
this
about
once
again.
I
just
says
this.
Despite
the
facts,
successful
cases
are
relatively
very
rare.
You
know,
so
it
seems
like
the
issue
is
not
very
prominent,
but,
as
I
said
you
know
it's
it's
a
privilege,
and
this
is
an
honor
to
such
in
a
way
to
participate
in
act
that
will
really
help
the
concerns
of
the
syrians.
AV
In
this
way,
like
the
important
part
of
this
legislation
we
are
discussing,
is
that
that
in
the
stakeholders,
the
people
and
that
the
government
have
heard
from
or
the
the
law
firm
Institute
survey,
Act
was
mandated
to
do
the
people
who
they
heard
from
so
this
is
outcome
of
this.
I
really
wanted
to
relate
it
to
you
know,
I
know
that
I
have
a
very
limited
time
to
the
weren't
able
to
actually
expand
on
to
this.
AV
What
is
in
my
mind,
given
that
we
do
not
have
enough
time
in
this
evening,
but
I
will
look
forward
to
speak
more
about
this.
This
is
also
because
it
really
opted
me
out
to
look
into
how
history
changes,
how
things
changes
over
time,
why
we
need
to
be
open-minded,
and
you
know
willing
to
work
together
to
address
these
very
issues
that
belong
to
other
constituents
and
the
people
of
this
province
and
where
that
has
been
ignored.
AV
AS
Really
good
segue
from
the
member
you
know,
thinking
about
obviously
Focus
years
on
is
on
Bill
one,
but
the
the
serious
contrast
between
the
lack
of
consultation
on
that
bill,
which
sounds
like
it's
going
to
be
rammed
through
tonight
and
this
bill,
which
you
got
to
give
the
members
of
the
committee
props
for
the
work
that
they
did.
They
consulted
I,
don't
know
if
it's
thousands,
don't
quote
me
on
that,
but
a
whole
heck
of
a
lot
of
albertans
and
yeah
I'm
quoted
on
that.
AS
It
is
answered
good
point,
but
they
consulted
a
lot
of
albertans
right
from
all
corners
of
this
province.
I
know
they
went
to
Hana,
they
went
to
a
number
of
other
communities,
so
it
is
intriguing
to
say
the
least,
that
you
know
this
government's
inconsistency
when
it
comes
to
consultation
on
their
bills,
and
so
you
know
we.
We
are
supportive
of
this
because
of
course
we
had
our
members
weigh
in
on
it
as
well.