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I
would
like
to
call
the
meeting
to
order
and
welcome
everyone
in
attendance.
The
committee
has
under
consideration
the
estimates
of
the
ministry
of
trade,
immigration
and
multiculturalism
for
the
fiscal
year
ending
March
31st
2024.
I'd.
Ask
that
we
go
around
the
table
and
have
members
introduce
themselves
for
the
record
Minister
when
we
get
to
you,
please
introduce
the
officials
who
are
joining
you
at
the
table.
My
name
is
Nicole
Goring
I'm,
the
MLA
for
Edmonton
Castle
downs
and
the
chair
of
this
committee.
We
will
begin
starting
to
my
right.
I
K
B
K
B
I'd
like
to
note
the
following
substitutions
for
the
record
Ms
Rosen
for
honorable
Armstrong
hominek
a
few
housekeeping
items
to
address
before
we
turn
to
the
business
at
hand.
Please
note
that
the
microphones
are
operated
by
the
Hansard
staff
committee.
Proceedings
are
live
streamed
on
the
internet
and
broadcast
on
the
Alberta
assembly.
Tv,
the
audio
and
video
stream
and
transcripts
of
meetings
can
be
accessed
by
the
Legislative
Assembly
website.
B
Members
participating
remotely
are
encouraged
to
turn
on
your
camera,
while
speaking
and
mute
your
microphone
when
not
speaking,
remote
participants
who
wish
to
be
placed
on
a
speaker's
list
are
asked
to
email
or
message.
The
committee
Clerk
and
members
in
the
room
should
signal
to
the
chair.
Please
set
your
cell
phones
and
other
devices
to
silent
for
the
duration
of
the
meeting
honorable
members.
The
standing
order
set
out
the
process
for
consideration
of
the
main
estimates.
B
A
total
of
three
hours
has
been
scheduled
for
consideration
of
the
estimates
for
the
ministry
of
trade,
immigration
and
multiculturalism
standing
order,
59.1
sub
6
establishes
the
speaking
rotation
and
speaking
times.
In
brief,
the
minister
or
member
of
executive
Council,
acting
on
The
Minister's
behalf,
will
have
10
minutes
to
address
the
committee
at
the
conclusion
of
The
Minister's
comments.
A
60-minute
speaking
block
for
the
official
opposition
begins
followed
by
a
20-minute
speaking
block
for
independent
members.
B
If
any
and
then
a
20-minute
speaking
block
for
the
government
caucus
individuals
may
only
speak
for
up
to
10
minutes
at
a
time,
but
speaking
time
may
be
combined
between
the
member
and
the
minister
after
the
speaking
times.
We'll
follow
the
same
rotation
of
the
official
opposition,
independent
members
and
the
government
caucus
the
member
and
the
minister
May
each
speak
once
for
a
maximum
of
five
minutes,
or
these
times
may
be
combined
making
it
a
10
minute
block.
B
If
members
have
any
questions
regarding
the
speaking
times
or
the
rotation,
please
send
an
email
or
message.
The
committee
clerk
about
the
process
with
the
concurrence
of
the
committee
I,
will
call
a
five-minute
break
near
the
midpoint
of
the
meeting.
However,
the
three-hour
clock
will
continue
to
run.
Does
anyone
oppose
to
having
the
break
seeing
none?
We
will
have
a
five-minute
break.
B
Minister
officials
may
be
present
and
at
the
direction
of
the
minister
May
address
the
committee
Ministry
officials,
seated
in
the
gallery,
if
called
upon,
have
access
to
a
microphone
in
the
gallery
area
and
are
asked
to
please
introduce
themselves
for
the
record
prior
to
commenting
pages
are
available
to
deliver
notes
or
other
materials
between
the
gallery
and
the
table.
Attendees
in
the
gallery
may
not
approach
the
table.
B
Space
permitting
office
and
caucus
staff
may
sit
at
the
table
to
assist
their
members.
However,
members
have
priority
to
sit
at
the
table
at
all
times.
If
debate
is
exhausted
prior
to
three
hours,
the
ministry's
estimates
are
deemed
to
have
been
considered
for
the
time
allotted
in
the
schedule,
and
the
committee
will
adjourn.
B
Points
of
order
will
be
dealt
with
as
they
arise
and
individual
speaking
times
will
be
paused.
However,
the
speaking
blot
time
and
the
overall
three-hour
meeting
clock
will
continue
to
run
any
written
material
provided
in
response
to
questions
raised
during
the
main
estimates
should
be
tabled
by
the
minister
in
the
assembly
for
the
benefit
of
all
members.
B
The
vote
on
the
estimates
and
any
amendments
will
occur
in
Committee
of
Supply
on
March
16
2023
amendments
must
be
in
writing
and
approved
by
parliamentary
Council
prior
to
the
meeting
at
which
they
are
to
be
moved.
The
original
amendment
is
to
be
deposited
with
the
committee
clerk
with
20
hard
copies.
An
electronic
version
of
the
signed
original
should
be
provided
to
the
committee
clerk
for
distribution
to
committee
members.
I
I
The
year-over-year
change
is
primarily
due
to
new
funding
for
multiculturalism
programs.
More
funding
for
the
Alberta
Advantage
immigration
program
to
increase
the
number
of
people
nominated
for
permanent
residence
and
additional
funding
to
expand
Alberta's
International
Presence
by
further
promoting
trade
growth
and
investment
attraction.
I
New
budget
Tim
is
helping
to
see
Alberta's
future
by
strengthening
diversifying
and
growing
Alberta's
economy.
Alberta
is
a
top
destination
private
sector
job,
creating
investment
and
pursuing
opportunities
in
the
Global
Market.
At
the
same
time,
we
are
attracting
skilled
workers
from
all
over
the
world
to
address
key
labor
gaps
and
we
are
providing
newcomer
language
and
settlement
supports
and
welcoming
diverse
and
inclusive
communities.
I
One
of
Tim's
key
priorities
is
attracting
high
value:
job,
creating
Investments
to
Alberta
from
around
the
globe
budget
2023
commits
45
million
dollars
over
three
years
to
attract
job,
creating
companies
and
investment
to
Alberta
via
the
investment
and
growth
fund,
also
known
as
the
igf.
Igf
is
one
of
the
first
deal,
closing
investment
attraction
programs
in
Canada
launch
in
the
fall
of
2021
igf
grants
have
helped
create
over
700
permanent
jobs
and
2
000,
temporary
ones,
and
over
1
billion
dollars
in
capital
spending.
I
I
Cgc
Inc
is
building
a
wall
board
manufacturing
plant
in
Wheatland
County,
resulting
in
over
100
permanent
jobs
and
approximately
200
construction
jobs
with
a
210
million
dollar
capex
or
company
spent
into
Alberta's
economy.
Southland
trailers
will
expand
operations
and
double
its
production
capacity.
With
a
new
plant
in
Lethbridge
County,
creating
253,
new,
permanent
and
25
temporary
construction
jobs.
I
I
Igf
is
modeled
on
other
successful
investment
attraction
programs,
but
tailored
to
meet
Alberta's
unique
needs.
Igf
is
administered
by
The
Province,
but
delivered
by
five
designated
program,
Partners,
one
of
which
is
invest
Alberta,
Corporation
or
IAC,
which
was
established
as
a
government
agency
in
2020
budget
2023
allocate
17.3
million
dollars
in
2023-24
to
support
iac's
operations
and
strategic
mandate.
I
This
funding
will
enable
IAC
to
pursue
high
quality
investment
opportunities
for
Alberta
and
promote
it
as
the
best
place
to
invest,
work
and
live
after
only
two
years.
The
IAC
industry
is
pardon
me
is
seeing
strong
results,
including
helping
investors
outside
of
Alberta
commit
to
injecting
over
20
billion
dollars
into
Alberta's
economy.
I
Now,
let's
move
on
to
the
immigration
portfolio,
while
attracting
job,
creating
investment
to
Alberta
is
critical
to
our
long-term
economic
success.
So
is
the
ability
to
fill
key
labor
shortages.
This
is
particularly
important
as
our
economy
continues
to
grow,
while
we
added
a
total
of
61
600
new
jobs
in
December
of
2022.
In
January
of
this
year,
there
are
still
around
100
000
vacancies
and
a
forecasted
shortage
of
over
33
000
workers
by
2025
across
many
occupations,
skill
levels
and
sectors
in
short,
Alberta
must
attract
more
skilled
workers.
I
The
aaip
provides
Pathways
for
for
employers
to
retain
workers
with
the
skills
they
need
in
key
sectors
such
as
health
care,
construction
technology,
agriculture,
tourism,
hospitality
and
more
budget.
2023
includes
21
million
dollars
over
three
years
to
expand
aaip's
ability
to
accept
an
increase
in
eligible
applicants.
This
is
great
news
for
the
province
of
Alberta.
I
I
While
attraction
is
an
important
part
of
our
labor
strategy,
so
is
helping
newcomers.
After
they've
arrived
to
help
newcomers
successfully
settle
and
integrate
Tim
funds,
organizations
that
deliver
settlement
and
language
programs.
Budget
2023
will
commit
50.3
million
dollars
over
three
years
for
settlement
and
integration
initiatives,
International
qualification,
recognition,
support
and
responses
to
emerging
issues
and
newcomer
needs.
As
we
continue
to
draw
people
from
across
the
world,
it
is
critical
that
we
promote
the
benefit
and
value
of
multiculturalism
and
diversity.
I
Alberta's
diversity
is
a
key
strength,
which
is
why
budget
2023
allocates
eight
million
dollars
over
three
years
to
support
more
effective
engagement
with
ethnocultural
communities.
This
funding
will
help
organizations
promote
cross-cultural
knowledge
and
understanding,
celebrate
and
support
cultural
diversity,
address
racism
and
intolerance
and
discrimination
and
help
build
even
more
inclusive
communities.
I
Leading
efforts
to
combat
racism
is
the
Alberta
anti-racism
advisory
Council,
whose
recommendations
guided
the
Alberta
anti-racism
action
plan.
One
of
the
plan's
actions
was
to
establish
a
new
grant
program
through
multiculturalism
and
anti-racism
Grant
or
Mark,
as
it's
known
to
help
address
racism
and
discrimination
and
promote
the
value
of
cultural
differences
and
Heritage
budget
2023
will
provide
500
000
per
year
over
three
years
to
support
mark.
This
program
allows
Community
groups
to
apply
for
funding
for
up
to
thirty
thousand
dollars
for
cultural
events,
festivals
training
workshops
or
other
projects.
I
This
helps
organizations
to
develop
their
own
solutions
for
addressing
racism.
A
key
team
mandate
item
is
also
establishing
a
premier's
council
on
multiculturalism.
Budget
2023
will
allocate
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
year
over
the
next
three
years
to
support
the
council
through
this
Council
and
other
attempts.
Other
initiatives
Tim's
goal
is
to
create
an
even
more
welcoming
and
inclusive
environment
for
people
from
all
cultures.
Thank.
B
You
Minister
for
the
hour
that
follows
members
of
the
official
opposition
and
the
minister
may
speak
honorable
members.
You
will
be
able
to
see
the
timer
for
the
speaking
block,
both
in
the
committee
room
and
on
Microsoft
teams.
Member
billis.
Would
you
like
to
combine
your
time
with
the
ministers?
Yes,.
E
Great
thank
you
and
thank
you
to
the
minister
for
being
here
and
to
your
staff
I
used
to
brag
about
EDT
having
the
best
staff
in
in
the
Goa.
Now
they're
spread
out
between
five
five
Ministries,
so
you
have
a
fifth
of
those
incredible
staff.
E
That's
not
to
say
that
the
others
aren't
incredible
also,
but
you
know
I
really
appreciate
you
sharing
time
and
and
I'll
commend
you
for
that,
because
I
think
we
can
have
a
much
more
fulsome
discussion
on
on
the
line
items
as
I
say
at
the
start
of
all
estimates.
This
is
not
question
period,
I'm,
not
looking
for
a
Zinger
or
to
get
you
Minister.
E
This
is
the
opposition
asking
questions
on
behalf
of
albertans
on
on
how
you
plan
to
spend
your
budget
and
so
the
further
we
can
drill
down
the
better
with
that
I'm
going
to
start
with
the
the
Albert
export
expansion
program
and
and
again
I
will
thank
you
Minister
for
taking
a
different
approach
than
some
of
your
colleagues
and
some
of
the
actions
of
the
government.
When
you're,
you
first
form
government
in
2019
where
programs
were
canceled
simply
because
they
came
in
under
the
former
government.
E
What
I
like
to
see
is
that
good
policy
good
programs
will
continue,
regardless
of
who
introduced
them
and
I'm
sure
that
you've
heard
this
from
the
private
sector
as
have
I
that
entrepreneurs
don't
care
who's
in
government.
They
just
want
good
programs
and
they
want
a
government,
that's
going
to
support
them.
So,
with
the
export
expansion
program,
we
were
very
proud
to
introduce
that
it.
E
It
did
serve
Alberta
companies
incredibly
well,
and
so,
if
you
can
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
and
I'm
happy
to
hear,
I
understand
this
isn't
Public
Accounts
but
I'm
happy
for
you
to
share
some
some
success
stories
and
if
you
can
break
down
the
funding
as
far
as
the
companies
I
know,
you
have
your
performance
metric.
Your
target
is
200
companies
this
year.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
program
itself,
so
how
how
how
much
can
companies
receive?
E
Is
it
still
for
travel,
Hotel,
food
Etc
to
make
it
more
accessible
for
companies
to
access
new
markets
or
have
the
parameters
around
the
program
or
the
use
of
the
dollars,
have
they
changed
or
or
how?
How
is
the
program
working
today.
I
I
think
thank
you
for
your
compliment.
For
my
very
capable
staff,
I
mean
it's
been
a
short
time,
but
it's
been
a
good
time.
I
can
definitely
say
that,
and-
and
thank
you
to
all
of
you
who
are
joining
me
today
and
and
I-
do
appreciate
your
comments
about
programs
being
kept
and
being
I
guess
promoted
as
well.
If
it's
a
good
program
it
shouldn't
matter,
what
government
is
in
place
and
I
come
from
the
private
sector
and
you're?
Absolutely
right.
I
I
will
agree
that
the
private
sector
doesn't
care,
they
are
looking
for
good
public
policy
and
they
are
looking
for
a
competitive
jurisdiction.
I
will
also
acknowledge
the
fact
that
this
program
was
initiated
in
2016
when,
when
you
were
the
minister
I
believe
at
that
time,
and
and
we
have
actually
found
that
we've
had
good
success
now.
Sometimes
these
programs
do
take
time
before
they
take
off
and
I
think
the
budget
allocation
at
that
time
was
was
a
little
bit
higher
than
what
the
uptake
was
so
right
now.
I
I
am
pleased
to
announce
that
we
are
allocating
a
million
dollars
per
year
for
the
next
three
years.
For
this
program-
and
we
have
seen
significant
uptake
in
recent
years
and
just
to
answer
your
question
in
terms
of
what
this
program
is
all
about-
it's
about
supporting
small
and
medium-sized
Enterprises,
so
smes,
municipalities,
industry
associations,
indigenous
communities
and
economic
development
organizations
to
promote
Alberta
exports
through
outbound
international
business
travel
and
incoming
buying
Expedition.
So,
essentially,
the
program
is
similar
to
what
it
was
in
2016.
I
It's
providing
funding
to
help
cover
eligible
travel
exhibition
and
trade,
show
costs
for
Alberta
businesses
and
non-profits
targeting
foreign
markets
or
bringing
potential
buyers
to
Alberta
and
in
terms
of
success
stories.
Let
me
just
you
know,
read
a
testimonial
for
some
Eep
participants,
and
this
should
make
you
happy.
Memorabilis
Eve
is
a
fantastic
and
essential
tool
for
small
businesses
like
ours.
With
the
help
of
the
government
of
Alberta,
our
company
was
able
to
enter
Central,
East,
Asia,
Middle,
East
and
European
markets
as
a
direct
result
of
the
assistance
provided
to
us.
I
E
No,
that's
wonderful,
and
if
I
can
Minister,
you've
talked
about
also
Expeditions
or
trade
missions
that
are
coming
into
Alberta.
Is
there
a
what
is
the
process
for
a
company
to
apply
and
then
successfully
get
a
grant
for
an
incoming
trade
mission?
Is
there
a
maximum
or
a
cap
on
that,
and
the
last
question
I'll
put
in
this
little
block?
E
Is
we
initially
had
a
caller
on
the
program
which
only
allowed
companies
to
go
into
a
market
once
and
realized
very
quickly
that
a
market
like
the
US,
for
example,
is
so
large
that
the
same
company
could
go
in
multiple
times
and
we
had
incredible
successes.
So
kalea
Carrington
is
the
CEO
of
absolute
combustion
and
they
are
doing
phenomenally
well
globally,
but
attribute
a
lot
of
that
success
back
to
the
program.
So
can
a
single
company
receive
supports
on
multiple
outbound
missions.
I
Those
are
very
good
questions.
I
may
not
have
all
of
those
answers
for
you
at
this
point.
I
know
that
when
trade
missions
do
come
to
the
province,
we
have
significant
resources
available
at
our
disposal,
including,
invest
Alberta,
who
will
certainly
intervene
to
provide
that
concierge
service
and
talk
about
the
programs
that
are
available
in
terms
of
whether
applicants
can
apply
more
than
once
team?
Yes,
they
can.
A
E
Wonderful
and
is,
is
the
program
still
based
on
receipts
getting
reimbursed
for
for
their
outbound
missions.
I
E
I
2.3,
if
trade
and
Export
development,
as
you
had
mentioned,
so
the
majority
of
that
is
actually
for
salaries,
wages
and
benefits.
So
the
Heat
program
is
under
investment
attraction,
so
that
would
be
under
2.2
and
so
2.3
is
3
million
for
Staffing
costs
to
lead
trade
and
Export
development
in
five
key
regions.
I
1.8
million
is
funding
for
trade
missions
so
for
Market
intelligence,
pathfinding
and
client
relationship
management,
and
just
to
give
you
some
more
background
information,
the
department
did
identify
over
30
potential,
in-person
outbound
International
Trade
promotion
mission
for
a
2023-24,
so
that
that's
pretty
exciting.
There's
a
lot
happening
in
this
upcoming
fiscal
and
just
to
give
you
some
examples
of
emissions.
They
include
the
Abu
Dhabi
International
petroleum
exhibition,
Arab
Health,
Australia
Oil
and
Gas
Energy,
Mobile
World,
Congress,
2024
and
Outreach
Europe.
G
E
Now
that
does
you
know,
make
me
ask
a
question
and
I
appreciate
Mr
this.
This
was
probably
the
premier's
decision,
but
I
do
see.
I
see
the
fact
that
the
the
traded
offices
all
report
to
Executive
Council,
as
as
an
unfortunate
decision
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is,
is
that
you
know
export
is
just
as
important
as
as
inbound
investment
and
I
appreciate
that
you
likely
work
with
the
trade
offices,
but
because
they
are
hived
off
under
executive
Council
it
it
doesn't
it.
E
It
doesn't
make
sense
to
me,
and
so,
if
you
could
just
talk
a
little
bit
about,
how
do
you
ensure
that
your
ministry
is
is
leveraging
Alberta's
trade
offices?
And
if
you
could
use
an
example,
I
know
yourself
and
Mr
Gene
just
returned
from
Korea?
Can
you
can
you
tell
us
how
the
trade
offices,
because
Alberta
has
a
trade
office
in
Korea,
was,
was
leveraged
and
used
when,
when
you
were
planning
your
mission
to
Korea.
I
Agreement
with
your
characterization
of
you
know,
the
office
is
moving
to
Executive
Council
as
being
detrimental
to
the
work
that
we're
doing.
We
do
work
very
closely
with
the
Alberta
International
offices
and
the
rationale
for
moving
them
was
actually
quite
sound,
because
those
offices
do
more
than
just
attract
investment
into
Alberta.
They
also
undertake
policy
advocacy
trade
promotion,
attracting
International
talent
and
labor.
Everybody's
heard
of
our
Alberta
is
calling
campaign,
so
the
international
offices
do
a
little
bit
more
than
just
that.
E
E
So
I
remember
having
a
debate
with
with
Doug
Schweitzer
when
he
was
the
minister
on
on
the
fact
that
this
is
essentially
a
fund.
That's
used
to
give
money
to
companies
to
try
to
incent
them
to
come,
which
again
I
mean
we
can
characterize
it
any
way
we
want.
You
know
I
I,
said
to
him.
The
irony
and
I
I
wished
all
of
the
government
caucus
was
here.
Listening
to
this,
that
often
we
hear
about
the
government
shouldn't,
be
picking
winners
and
losers
and
shouldn't
be
giving
companies
welfare.
E
E
You
know
cutting
checks
to
corporations,
but
I
recognize
that
many
other
jurisdictions
do
have
entities
and
funds
that
will
help
incent
or
entice
companies
to
either
relocate
headquarters
or
to
make
investment
decisions,
and
so,
for
those
reasons,
Minister
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
criticizing.
The
fund.
E
I
know
on
page
135,
there's
45
million
in
funding
over
three
fiscal
years
for
this
fund
and
again
it's
it's
in
in
your
document,
Minister
that
it's
it's
to
elevate,
Alberta's
competitiveness,
and
so
you
had
mentioned
earlier
in
your
comments,
Minister,
that
there
are
five
entities
that
help
deliver
this
fund
and
invest.
Alberta
was
one
of
them.
Could
you
identify
the
other
four.
I
Yes,
I'd
be
I'd,
be
happy
to
do
that
and-
and
you
know,
I
I
understand
what
you're
saying
about
the
igf
and
your
comments
about
corporate
welfare
and
I
just
want
to
say
just
for
the
record
that
I
can
completely
disagree.
It's
we
have
to
make
sure
that
Alberta
is
a
competitive
jurisdiction.
Now
we
know
that
the
Gulf
Coast
is
become
somewhat
more
competitive,
with
the
inflation
reduction
act,
and
so
that's
why
the
igf
is
an
even
more
important
tool.
I
It's
a
tool
that
we
have
at
our
disposal
to
attract
investment
and
it's
a
it's
a
deal,
clothing
mechanism,
it's
a
unique
program
in
Canada
and
we've
had
tremendous
success,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
I
articulate
that
I've
had
the
pleasure
of
announcing
about
two
igf
funded
organizations
that
have
come
to
the
province
and
have
had
significant
conversations
with
them
like
what
Drew
you
here.
So
the
whole
concierge
aspect
and
this
fund
to
help
with
the
relocation
was,
was
instrumental.
I
Now
the
other
organizations
that
help
are
here
we
go,
we've
got
so:
we've
got
Agriculture
and
irrigation
within
the
government
and
we
have
travel
Alberta,
Edmonton,
Global
and
Calgary
Economic,
Development,
J
and
Jen
d
as
well.
E
Did
they
sorry
so
for
the
for
the
process
did
they
are
they
able
to
make
a
decision
and
allocate
dollars
independently
of
of
you
or
do
they
make
recommendations
that
come
back
to
you
for
final
decision
or
can
you
can
you
talk
about
the
process
of
how
is
a?
How
is
a
company
evaluated
and
then
how
do
you?
How
do
you
get
to
the
the
decision
of
if
they
are
going
to
be
supported
and
how
much
that
is?
Is
there
a
formula.
I
It's
a
ladder
of
the
two:
these
organizations
can't
make
the
decisions
themselves,
they
they
provide
a
recommendation
to
government,
and
then
we
have
the
rubric
in
terms
of
how
we,
how
we
await
the
organizations
I
mean
one
of
the
items
is
that
it
has
to
be
in
high
impact
high
value
investment
and
there
have
to
be
I
believe
there
is
we're
just
getting
just
getting
the
metrics.
So
there
have
to
be
a
certain
number
of
jobs
that
have
to
be
created
through
this
investment,
and
so
that
goes
through
my
department.
I
It
goes
through
Jennifer's
Department.
Actually,
they
do
a
very
thorough
evaluation
and
then,
if
things
are
looking
good-
and
we
know
it's
a
high
value-
high
impact
investment-
that's
creating
a
certain
amount
of
jobs
and
capital
investment
in
the
province,
then
that
agreement
is
signed
with
the
organization.
E
And
I
I
won't
ask
you
about
specific
companies.
I
appreciate
that
you
mentioned
them.
I'm,
obviously
not
going
to
ask
what
they
received.
I'm
sure
that
there
are
ndas
that
were
signed.
But
can
you
just
comment
on?
Is
there
an
average
that
a
company
would
receive
again
understanding
the
fact
that
it
depends
on
the
size
of
the
investment
amongst
other
criteria,
but
I'm
just
curious?
How
far
that
funding
will
go
within
a
year.
I
Well,
I
can
tell
you
actually
I
have
the
numbers
right
here,
just
eyeballing
it
I
was
here,
an
average
would
be
about
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
per
organization
and
I
do
we.
We
have
seven
actually
yeah
seven
organizations
that
we
have
funded
and
would
be
happy
to
share
the
information
in
terms
of
the
metrics.
E
I
would
love
that
if
you,
if
you
could
Minister
absolutely
if
you're
able
to
share
those
metrics
and
and
appreciate
that-
and
you
know
again
in
other
estimates-
I
quoted
Peter
Drucker
saying
you
know
you
can't
manage
things,
you
don't
measure
and
and
of
course,
if
we
don't
have
those
very
clear
metrics,
then
it's
very
difficult
to
assess
whether
a
program
is
is
being
successful
and
delivering
the
outcomes
that
you
wanted
to
and
so
again
I
I
appreciate
Minister
that
and
maybe
it's
your
private
sector
background,
but
that
you're
you're
driven
by
those
metrics
and
that
there's
a
rubric
and
so
there's
really
a
clear
playing
field
with
rules
on
how
companies
are
going
to
be
evaluated.
E
And
it's
not,
you
know,
left
up
to
to
your
gut
or
or
some
other
form
of
of
measurement.
E
E
And
I
will
do
this
respectfully,
of
course,
but
no
I
appreciate
you
know
again
the
purpose
of
the
fund
and
that
it
it
there
are
the
jurisdictions
that
have
funds
like
this
and
I
know.
I
know
from
being
in
your
position,
Minister
that
that
companies
want
not
only
the
concierge
service,
which
again
was
the
reason
that
we
created
invest
Alberta,
that
was
within
the
department,
and
then
your
government
spawned
it
out,
which
and
I've
said
this
on
the
record.
E
That
I
wholeheartedly
agree
that
invest
Alberta
should
have
been
spun
out
of
government
and
and
be
an
arms
length
organization.
So
I
appreciate
that.
But
this
little
nagging
voice
tells
me
that
when
the
corporate
tax
rate
was
dropped
from
12
to
8
percent
over.
E
It
was
touted
as
no
but
Minister
here's
here's
the
issue.
It
was
touted
as
this
is
what
is
needed
for
Alberta
to
be
competitive.
This
will
attract
companies.
This
will.
This
will
draw
companies
from
Ontario
to
headquarter
in
in
calgaryen
I
appreciate,
Jason
Kennedy's,
no
longer
the
premier,
but
he
talked
over
and
over
about
that.
So
if
the
corporate
tax
rate
is
working-
and
that
was
the
reason
that
it
was
reduced,
then
this
fund
shouldn't
be
needed.
I
Experience.
I,
know
that,
and
you
know
this
is
an
off-told
story,
but
I
was
in
those
rooms
with
the
AER
and
cap
and
other
large
organizations
from
the
oil
and
gas
industry.
When
the
climate
policy
was
announced
by
the
previous
government
and
the
carbon
taxes
implemented
and
in
front
of
my
eyes,
I
can
tell
you
there
were
companies
who
are
saying
that
you
know
what
we
were
going
to
shut
our
doors,
because
we
can
make
more
money
just
across
the
border.
I
So
that's
a
reality
when
people
are
making
Capital
divisions,
investment
decisions,
they're
going
to
look
at
rate
of
return
and
rate
of
return,
encompasses
all
elements
of
the
fiscal
regime.
So
I
will,
you
know,
stand
by
the
fact
that
reducing
the
corporate
tax
rate
was
was
an
incredibly
well.
It
was
the
right
thing
to
do,
definitely
to
attract
investment,
and
this
particular
fund
has
demonstrated
a
lot
of
success
as
well
right,
so
I'm
just
going
to
read
a
few
items
here
so
as
of
February
15th
of
this
year.
I
Just
so,
this
information
is
out
there
as
well.
We
had
seven
igf
grants
that
have
been
fully
executed
with
project
build
out
ranging
from
three
to
five
years,
so
that
in
itself
is,
is
exceptional.
5.5
million
of
igf
funding
supported
I
mentioned
this.
In
my
opening
comments
about
52
million
dollars
in
cumulative
value
of
capital,
investment
in
the
province,
that
would
not
have
otherwise
come
here.
There
were
other
jurisdictions
that
were
reporting
these
companies.
E
Okay,
I'm
gonna
move
on
to
invest
Alberta
again,
we'll
just
agree
to
disagree.
That
again,
you
know
the
rationale
behind
lowering
the
corporate
taxes
was
so
that
that
type
of
Grant
wasn't
needed,
but
moving
on
to
invest
and
I
see
that
the
CEO
of
invest,
Alberta
is
here
and
so
I
think
that's
wonderful
to
be
able
to
hear
directly.
E
Obviously,
that's
your
decision
Minister.
So
in
this
current
budget,
the
ftes
were
more
than
doubled
from
from
20
Staff
last
year.
I
believe
it
was
up
to
50.
this
year
and
the
budget
continues
with
that
50.
and
so
I'm
curious
to
know.
You
know,
with
the
increase
in
Staffing
what
what
projects
the
increase
has
accomplished
if
we
can
get
a
breakdown
of
an
overview
of
the
jobs
like
how
many
FTS
are
in
invest
Alberta
if
or
the
CEO
can
also
talk
about.
E
Sorry
I've
got
my
notes
on
multiple
pages
again
if
we
can
get
a
breakdown
and
I'm
curious
to
know,
as
well
of
of
some
of
the
salaries
of
of
the
staff
in
invest.
Alberta
I've
been
told
by
numerous
people
who
formerly
worked
for,
invest
Alberta,
that
many
Department
staff
were
moved
from
the
Department
over
to
invest
Alberta
to
continue
with
a
similar
job,
yet
their
salaries
doubled
and
so
jump
significantly
and
so
I'm
curious
to
know.
E
You
know
the
50
staff
if
we
can
get
a
bit
of
an
org
chart
along
with
their
compensation
again
because
it's
a
crown
Corporation
and
it's
paid
by
tax
taxpayer
dollars.
I.
Think
that
question
is
is
a
fair
question.
I
Her
you've
heard
from
a
friend
you
heard
from
somebody,
because
you
know
everybody
has
a
perspective
and
an
opinion,
and
so
unless
there's
something
that's
fully
substantiated,
you
have
something
in
writing.
You
have
a
legitimate
claim
that
you
want
to
bring
forward.
It's
really
difficult
to
answer.
Some
of
these
questions
that
you
mentioned
regarding
anecdotes
but
but
happy
to
talk
about
the
Staffing
and
I
will
invite
Rick
to
come
up
and
and
say
a
few
words
as
well.
I
So
there
are
44
and
a
half
ftes
with
invest,
Alberta
right
now
and
and
I'll
just
break
it
down
for
you.
So
there's
about
28
and
a
half
ftees
in
the
Calgary
office
in
Edmonton
there
are
19
in
beefy
and
Ontario.
We
have
one
FTE
respectively
salaries.
I
do
believe
are
in
their
financial
statements,
at
least
for
the
CEO
and
the
the
feast
wheat
individual.
So
you
can
definitely
see
some
information
there.
I
The
total
salary
component
for
50
staff
members
is
5.8
million,
which
is
an
average
of
about
less
than
a
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
dollars
per
FTE.
So
I
think
I've
answered
your
question
and,
and
you
know
I
will
invite
Rick
to
come
up
and
say
a
few
words
if,
if
some
of
these
numbers
and
information.
L
Thank
you,
Minister
Rick,
Christian
I
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
good
understanding
around
how
we
think
about
how
we
add
ftes,
because
that's
an
important
criteria.
We
want
to
make
sure
that,
as
we
add
members
or
as
we,
that
we
have
both
increased
capacity
to
the
organization
in
terms
of
expanded,
invest,
Alberta
invest
Alberta's
ability
to
operate
in
markets
possessing
favorable
investment
clients.
L
We
look
at
making
sure
that
we
hire
talented
people
both
from
within
current
government
and
from
outside.
We
started
three
years
ago,
and
so
we
have
evolved
from
the
numbers
that
were
quoted
earlier
to
a
point
where
we
are
at
our
FTE
count.
Our
strategy
involves
being
Nimble
and
agile,
so
we
can
rapidly
adapt
to
the
market
and
move
forward.
L
We
have
made
sure
that
in
our
seven
key
sectors
that
we
have
sector
experts
so
that
as
inquiries
come
in
and
as
we
reach
out
to
companies
around
North,
America
and
the
world
that
we
can
move
forward,
have
to
recognize
that
FDI
is
a
fiercely
competitive
space
and
our
people
are
critical
to
the
only
over
her
story.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
relationships
that
will
advance
people
to
move
forward.
To
give
you
some
comparisons.
Quebec
has
300
people
doing
the
same.
L
E
Sorry
I
have
I
have
a
whole
Suite
of
questions.
All
around
invest
Alberta
if
I
could
and
so
apologize
for
interrupting
you
Rick
do
you
have
What
proportion
of
your
budget.
So
when
I
look,
you
know
at
the
17
million
this
year,
almost
six
millions
for
salaries.
What's
the
the
proportion
of
the
budget
for
Administration
in
general,
do
you
have
that
number.
E
So
so,
let's,
let's
flip
this
around
I,
mean
how
how
much
of
the
budget
is
spent
on
on
again,
you
know
investment
attraction,
be
it
materials,
that's
separate
from
it
bin
staff.
How
much
is
spent
on
programming
I
mean
honestly,
if
you
could
do
you
know
if
you
can
break
down
the
17
million
beyond
the
5.8
salaries,
that
would
be
wonderful.
L
Absolutely
so
program
delivery
costs
are
about
five
and
a
half
million
dollars,
and
then
the
Staffing
costs
would
make
up
the
rest
so
that
that
would
be
a
high
level
breakdown
with
those
numbers.
E
Thank
you
so
last
year
we
noticed
that
there
was
some
concerns
regarding
a
significantly
High
turnover
over
at
invest.
Alberta
now,
I've
noticed
that
about
20
percent
of
positions
are
still
vacant
or
are
unfilled.
Do
you?
Can
you
talk
just
briefly
about
about
your
hiring
your
hiring
and
retention
strategies.
L
So
I
I
would
make
a
couple
of
points
in
general
number
one.
We
are
building
a
high
performance
team
that
reaches
out
and
works
in
a
very
competitive
space,
so
attracting
those
people
is
challenging
in
the
current
environment.
So
we
will
see
vacancies
at
times
as
we
as
we
move
forward
on
some
of
these
roles
as
an
overall
objective,
we
are
working
very
hard
at
making
sure
that
we
retain
the
people
that
we
hire.
L
We
are
spending
resources
on
making
sure
they
are
trained
and
they
are
supported
and
we
will
continue
to
work
on
on
taking
the
head
count
down,
but
the
reality
is.
This
is
still
an
organization
that
is
in
its
early
years
formation
and
there
will
be
a
bit
of
turnover
as
we
as
we
get
absolutely
to
the
point
where,
where
we
get
move
forward,
it's.
E
Great
thanks
for
that,
so
I
just
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
about
expenses,
so
expenses
for
yourself
as
CEO,
was
about
seventy
four
thousand
dollars
in
the
period
between
October
and
December
of
2022.
I
appreciate
that's
backward
looking.
The
question
is:
what
can
we
expect
your
travel
expenses
to
look
like
in
23-24.
L
It's
a
question
that
that
gets
raised.
So
let
me
take
a
step
back
for
a
moment
to
just
chat
mandate.
Our
role
is
to
attract
investment
from
around
the
world
and
the
reality
is
that
when
we're
meeting
with
CEOs
or
c-suite
level
Executives,
we
have
to
go
out
and
go
into
the
markets
and
actually
chat
with
them
in
their
locations.
And
so
we
are
very
proud
of
the
work
that
we've
done.
Attracting
investment
from
places
like
Ireland
and
India.
L
That
traditionally
Alberta
has
not
been
a
strong
player,
and
so
we
look
at
both
data
like
what's
the
flow
of
outgoing
FDI.
What's
the
market
size
or
the
presence
of
clusters
pre-existing
relationships
that
determine
where
the
markets
are
that
we
want
to
focus
on
and
we
want
to
free
deliver
on
for
any
travel.
That
happens.
L
M
Perfect
name
is
Jasmine
nut
Hall
with
invest
Alberta.
So
to
answer
your
question
I
believe
it
was
both
the
CEO
travel
correct.
His
travel
allocated
for
the
2024
fiscal
is
actually
150
000.,
but
within
that
portion,
when
we
look
at
the
the
trips
that
we're
taking
so
we
have
a
pretty
robust
pre-approval
process
where
anyone
who
travels,
including
the
CEO,
has
to
clearly
document
where
they're
going.
M
What
are
the
objectives,
how
many
meetings
who
they're
going
to
be
meeting
with
and
what
are
the
outcomes
achieved
from
that
particular
travel
when
they
get
back?
There's
also
a
post
report
that
now
has
to
be
completed
as
well:
I'll
capturing
the
deliverables
that
were
met,
we
review
it
and
then
within
our
system
we
capture
it,
allocate
it
to
our
CRM.
And
then
we
we're
going
to
be
using
that
in
the
upcoming
fiscal
to
evaluate
Future
travel
plans
as
we
go
out
so
to
make
evidence-based
decisions
as
to
where
we
invest
our
dollars.
I
If
I
have
hoses
questions
myself
and
I
know
that
Jasmine
was,
she
was
actually
employed
with
the
government
of
Alberta
and
has
very
very
strong
background
in
implementing
controls,
and
so
we
had
a
very
detailed
conversation
on
how
how
has
this
organization
evolved
to
adopt
these
controls?
I
So
we
have
more
clarity
around
what
our
future
budget
is
going
to
look
like
and
how
expenses
are
going
to
be
approved
and,
as
we
went
through
that
process,
I'm
satisfied
that
significant
progress
has
been
made
and
you
know
they're
not
where
they
need
to
be
at,
but
it's
a
new
organization
stood
up
in
2020
lots
of
growing
pains
and
I
look
forward
to
having
this
discussion
again
a
year
from
now
to
understand
how
some
of
these
other
additional
elements
in
the
control
framework
will
be
implemented.
I
The
other
aspect
that
I
wanted
to
mention
Rick
had
talked
about
reaching
out
to
other
jurisdictions
at
Alberta
traditionally
has
not
played
in
invested
in
or
had
boots
on
the
ground
in
and
I
have
indicated
my
preference
that
we
take
a
long,
a
strong
look
at
the
indo-pacific.
The
federal
government
came
out
with
an
indo-pacific
strategy.
I
Last
year,
I
will
be
under
the
under
Trade
Summit
later
on
this
year
with
the
Western
provinces,
to
talk
about
how
we're
going
to
talk
about
a
concerted,
focused,
common
Vision
in
terms
of
how
we
want
to
develop
our
own
indo-pacific
strategy.
So
this
has
been
communicated
to
invest
Alberta
to
ensure
that
that
they
are
also
taking
a
look
at
that
and
that
has
to
be
factored
into
their
budget
as
well.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
got
those
common
sense.
I
know
you
have
more
questions,
I.
E
I
do,
and
you
know,
I
appreciate
Rick's
comments,
but
I'm
not
asking
about
invest,
Alberta's
Market
presence
for
the
for
all
of
the
staff.
Again
I
mean
there
are
questions
around.
How
are
we
using
our
International
Trade
offices,
where
we
have
boots
on
the
ground?
I
know
that
there's
30
planned
missions
that
are
outgoing
this
year,
I'm
talking
specifically
about
the
CEO's
travel
and
so
obviously
there's
a
need
for
the
CEO
to
travel
I'm,
not
trying
to
argue
against
that.
E
But
if,
if
the
quarter
from
October
to
December
is
any
indication
or
average,
that's
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
year
for
CEO
travel
exclusively,
that
seems
a
little
high.
I
know
for
a
fact
that
you
know
a
flight
that
that
Rick
took
to
Singapore
was
over
thirteen
thousand
dollars
I'm
assuming
we're
flying
business
class
on
these
trips.
I
All
of
these
expenses
are
publicly
disclosed
they're
on
the
invest,
Alberta
website,
all
of
the
invoices
that
are
included
there
as
well
I
I.
Personally,
don't
know
if
business
class
was
used
for
every
every
mission,
but
I
think
we'll
have
to
get
back
to
you,
okay
in
terms
of
and
it's
on
the
website.
So
you
can
have
a
look
if
there's
any
specific
expenses
that
you're
concerned.
I
I
May
2020
ministerial
order
from
February
of
2021
and
government
of
Alberta's
travel
meal
in
hospital.
Pardon
me
Hospitality
expenses
policy
from
April
of
2021,
so
they
are.
There
are
mechanisms
in
place
to
make
sure
that
the
they
are
in
compliance
with
with
government
policy,
so
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
out
there.
E
Sorry
Minister.
If
we
can
jump
over
to
the
the
contractors
I'm
curious
to
know
how
many
invest
Alberta
have
I'd.
A
I
E
I
The
higher
consulting
services
so
like,
for
example,
in
New,
Delhi
India
they
work
with
an
organization
called
Dynamics,
Global
Consulting
and
the
budget
for
that
particular
consultant
is
a
hundred
and
and
I
do
believe
right
now
that
there
are
two
individuals
who
are
contracted
through
the
New
Delhi
office.
So
you
can,
you
know
you
can
do
the
math
on
that
and
in
terms
of
the
other
jurisdictions.
I
have
the
names
of
the
contracted
supports,
as
well
as
the
budget
for
resources,
and
we
can
certainly
make
sure.
E
Yes
sure
that
please,
thank
you,
Mr
I
mean
my
question
around
you
know
is
a
great
example
of
a
company
that's
being
contracted
in
India.
Yet
Alberta
has
a
trade
office
in
India.
Now
it
was
gutted
three
years
ago,
but
we
do
have
a
trade
office
in
India.
So
how
is
this
amount
of
duplication
of
of
services
if
we
have
boots
on
the
ground
in
India
and
we're
paying
a
contracting
company
in
India?
Well,.
I
Again,
I
would
go
back
to
you
to
Alberta,
which
is
mainly
investment
attraction
where
the
Alberta
International
offices
policy
advocacy.
They
work
regards
to
our
immigration
policies
and
we
also
expend
significant
efforts
trying
to
attract
post-secondary
students.
So
while
there
might
be
some
overlap,
there
is
not
significant
overlap.
E
I
I
So
while
they
may
have
done
both-
and
you
said
yourself
that
you
were
fully
supportive
of
having
a
crown
Corporation
at
that
time,
that
was
exclusively
focused
on
this.
So
again,
I
would
go
back
to
the
point
that
and
who
knows
what
the
future
might
hold.
Maybe
there
might
be
an
amalgamation
again
of
the
international
offices
within
best
Alberta.
I
I
A
good
opportunity
to
do
an
assessment
to
understand
you
know
how
effectively
the
Alberta
International
offices
are
able
to
deliver
on
that.
Mandate
of
you
know
talking
about
Alberta's
immigration
policies,
value
proposition
and.
E
Mr
with
respect
I'm
going
to
keep
moving,
I
have
I,
have
other
questions.
My
first
one
again
I
would
love
to
get
Rick
back
up
to
the
microphone.
With
your
with
your
blessing
Minister
I'd
like
to
know
what
role
David
Knight
leg
is
playing
in,
invest,
Alberta
and
what
is
compensation
is
for
people.
Listening
at
home,
David
Knight
leg
was
the
CEO
of
invest
Alberta
appointed
by
Jason
Kenney.
He
was
then
let
go.
My
sources
tell
me
he's
been
on
the
payroll,
since
he
was
out
of
the
role
of
CEO
and.
I
Our
Provisions
in
place
to
so
firm
that
can.
L
Chris
chance
so
Dave
and
I'd,
like
is
the
principal
of
dartics,
which
is
a
company
based
in
Singapore.
He
is
being
paid
9
600
a
month
for
his
services,
and
we
require
that
he
meets
a
number
of
performance
criteria
which
include
providing
qualified,
leads
and
helping
us
tell
the
Alberta
story
around
the
world.
He
also
provides
strategic
advice
to
the
CEO
on
board
and
with
all
contractors
that
we
currently
have
agreements
with.
E
And
so
he's
been
collecting
10
000
a
month
for
the
past
two
and
a
half
years
operating
in
Singapore
and
his
metrics
are
investment
leads,
and
what
was
the
second
thing?
They
even
said
he.
L
E
You
know
I'll,
ask
I
mean
how
many,
how
many
Investments
were
because
of
the
work
that
he's
doing
directly
I
mean
this
question
is
a
softball,
but
all.
E
Move
forward
so,
if
I
can
ask
them,
since
he
was
moved
to
this
role
and
and
correct
me,
if
my
timing
is
wrong,
it's
been
about
two
and
a
half
years.
How
long
sorry?
How
long
have
you
been
in
the
role
being
in
the
role
for
a
year
and
three
months?
E
Okay,
so
in
in
that
time
and
I
appreciate
what
you
just
said
as
far
as
as
the
investment
cycle
and
and
how
it's
longer,
but
do
you
have
a
number
then
on
on
how
many
investment
deals
that
that
Mr
nightlag
has
brought
to
Alberta
in
his
year
and
a
half
yeah.
L
I
the
numbers
currently
at
12
and
we'll
continue
to
evaluate
it
each
quarter
because
he
needs
to
deliver
additional
leads
and
additional
business
to
us
on
a
quarterly
basis.
E
Thank
you
appreciate
that,
so
you
know
questions
that
I
asked
in
in
previous
estimates
were
around
the
the
Alpine
Canada
sponsorship,
which
we're
now
in
our
third
year
of
sponsoring
Alpine
Canada
I'll,
be
honest
with
you.
Minister
I've
never
had
good
enough
answers,
considering
albertans
are
paying
750
000
dollars
to
Alpine.
Canada
I
also
just
want
a
flag,
because
I
found
it
fascinating
that
the
current
chair
of
invest
Alberta
is
actually
on
the
Alpine
Canada
and
is
the
chair
of
their
fundraising
committee.
E
I
Specific
questions
around
the
value
of
the
sponsorship
and
and
certainly
I,
know
about
this
question
how
imposed
imposed
in
the
past
and
there
you
what
you
were
alluding
to
was
perceived
or
real
conflict
of
interest,
and
so
so
that's
noted,
I
have
had
some
pointed
conversations
with
with
both
Rick
and
with
other
members
in
invest
Alberta
about.
How
are
we
going
to
move
forward
in
terms
of
sponsorships
like
this
was
a
real
learning
opportunity
and
what
is
the
go
forward?
I
Plan
and
and
I
do
have
some
notes
Here
in
terms
of
what
the
organization
is
is
going
to
adopt
as
we
move
forward
and
there
are
each
sponsorship
is
going
to
be
assessed
and
approved
individually,
based
on
the
following
metrics.
Does
the
company
organization
event
align
with
iac's
values,
Mission
and
mandate?
Does
the
sponsorship
align
with
iac's
corporate
outcomes?
Does
the
sponsorship
provide
a
conduit
to
iac's
target
market
and
Target
sectors,
and
and
so
on
and
so
forth?
I
So
I
think
it's
very
important
to
again
point
out
that
this
organization
was
stood
up
in
2020
Growing
Pains.
There
is
a
control
Frameworks
that
are
in
place
right
now
that
are
significantly
stronger
than
they
were
in
the
past
and
I
do
expect
to
see
that
improve
even
more
over
time
and
and
I
will
ask
Jasmine
to
just
comment
on
Alpine's
remaining
sponsorship
commitments.
M
Thank
you
very
much
Jasmine
Nuttall.
Thank
you.
Member
I
do
want
to
highlight
that
it's
not
actually
our
board
chair
who
sits
on
the
Alpine
board,
it's
actually
his
brother.
So
there
is
some
separation
there
and
in
terms
of
that,
he's
not
involved
in
any
of
the
decisions
in
regards
to
Alpine.
So
there's
been
a
firewall
put
in
place
for
that
enter.
M
M
Sure
our
board
members
do
adhere
to
a
strict
conflict
of
interest
policy
and
we
have
processes
and
mechanisms
in
place,
so
they
will.
They
are
recused
from
not
only
the
decision,
but
the
conversations
as
well
when
a
conflict
has
been
declared
real,
perceived
or
potential
and
that's
at
the
board
level
in
terms
of
the
Alpine
sponsorship.
As
you
stated,
it
is
250
000
a
year
for
three
years,
the
sponsorship
will
terminate
March
31st
of
2025
2024.
Sorry
I
had
to
figure
out
what
year
we're
in
here.
This.
M
Is
the
last
year
of
that
agreement?
You
know:
we've
put
a
lot
of
controls
in
place
to
prevent
a
multi-year
sponsorship
like
this
from
happening
again
and
I
think
it
is
what
it
is.
M
You
know,
and
it's
very
similar
to
the
travel
they
not
only
have
pre-approval,
but
we're
also
having
post
approval
to
manage
and
monitor
the
outcomes
from
the
sponsorships
to
determine
whether
or
not
they
are
a
value
for
money
for
future
years.
So
again,
switching
to
more
of
an
evidence-based
decision
making
for
future
years.
E
I'm
biting
my
tongue
right
now
wanting
to
make
so
many
comments.
No
I
appreciate
that
Jasmine.
Can
you
talk
about
and
again
I
recognize?
This
is
not
Public
Accounts,
so
I
won't
ask
about
the
last
two
years.
But
what
are
your
anticipated
outcomes
from
this
sponsorship
and
and,
quite
frankly,
I'd
be
happy
to
hear
that
you
know
if
it
was
determined
that
the
sponsorship
was
a
mistake,
but
you
signed
a
three-year
deal
and
had
to
continue
forward
with
it.
E
You
know
happy
to
hear
that
acknowledgment,
because
I
can
tell
you
that
when
I
talk
to
people,
that's
the
Optics
of
this
sponsorship,
but
please
what
what
are
the
outcomes
expected
from
it
for
this
year?
Well,.
M
Who
would
not
enter
into
another
agreement
like
this
going
forward
based
on
the
criteria
we've
set
out
now?
What
we're
getting
out
of
this?
The
Alpine
Canada
events
are
actually
largely
attended
by
a
large
European
delegation,
so
we
do
have
invest
Alberta
banners
up
as
well
as
we
are
on
their
website
in
their
media
materials,
and
that
is
important
in
getting
the
Alberta
story
out
there.
M
We
can
talk
about
whether
we
should
or
should
not
have.
But
the
fact
is
it's
a
three-year
agreement.
We
are
unable
to
exit
it,
so
that
is
where
we're
at
and
again
I'm
going
to
go
to
for
the
upcoming
fiscal
year.
The
processes
that
have
been
put
in
place
are
both
pre-approval
but
then
again,
post
approval
to
evaluate
the
outcomes,
so
I
think
we
can
agree
that.
E
And-
and
thank
you
Jasmine
do
you
have
so
I
appreciate
you
talking
about
you
know
the
number
of
European
investors
have
any
Investments
been
made
that
can
be
directly
traced
back
to
an
event
and
I'm
about
to
reference
another
event,
because
I
appreciate
Minister
that
you
talked
about.
There
are
much
stricter
controls
today
than
there
were
two
years
ago,
but
I
know
for
a
fact
that
in
2023
there
was
the
vcaa
conference,
where
a
whole
lot
of
Staff
got
paid
to
go
skiing.
I
And
this
is
why
I
caution
against
using
or
gossip
or
anything
like
that
and
and
asking
those
types
of
questions
here.
If
you
have
something,
that's
substantial
and
legitimate
I
mean
those
are
fair
questions
to
ask.
But
everybody's
heard
the
the
gossipy
stories
and.
E
So
so
how
much
well,
first
of
all
it
so
any
direct
Investments
that
came
from
the
Alpine
Canada
contract.
M
Emphasis
was
one
of
the
ones
going
forward
that
we
can
list.
They
actually
I
believe
attended
in
2021.
E
The
conversations
with
Infosys
started
actually
in
2018
on
trade
missions
to
Silicon
Valley
emphasis,
not
I've
met
with
both
of
those
companies,
okay
and
so
fair
enough,
and
so
the
the
was
there.
E
E
Okay,
just
seeing
if
I
have
any
other
questions
for
invest.
Alberta.
E
E
For
now
so
Minister
I'm
going
to
jump
to
a
different
line
item.
In
my
last
six
minutes
you
have
on
in
your
ministry
estimates
page
217
line
2.2.
E
Actually
it's
not
2.2
on
your
International.
It's
2.1
trade
policy.
E
You've
increased
the
budget
by
3
million
and
so
I'm
curious.
If,
if
you're
working
on
well,
what
the
3
million
is
for.
Are
you
working
on
any
new
trade
trade
agreements
and
and
why
that
that
increase
from
last
year.
I
E
Are
there
I
mean
you
know?
Is
there
any
current
negotiations
that
are
taking
place,
that
I
haven't
heard
of
between
Alberta
and
other
jurisdictions,
or
can
you
give
a
bit
more
of
a
breakdown
on
that
line
item
please.
I
Well
again,
if
mainly
that
for
staff,
and
the
current
trade
priorities
right
now
is
that
Alberta
Dave
does
have
a
seat
at
the
table
when
there
are
any
other.
Any
trade
negotiations
that
are
happening
and
I
know.
Significant
negotiations
were
underway
between
Alberta
and
the
UK.
I
Pardon
me
between
Canada
and
the
UK
and
Alberta
was
there
at
the
table
as
well,
and
it's
the
same
with
with
India
that
negotiation
has
been
going
on
for
some
time
and
I
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
a
High
Commissioner
about
Alberta's
priorities,
so
that
is
underway
and
our
staff
are
there.
I
had
mentioned
the
indo-pacific
region
earlier.
That
is
an
important
priority
for
Alberta
and
for
Canada
as
a
whole
and
I
know
that
our
staff
is
most
definitely
focused
on
understanding.
I
What
that
looks
like
for
Alberta
and
how
we
will
represent
at
the
federal
tables
and,
of
course,
I'd
mentioned
the
indo-pacific
trade
Summit
that
will
all
be
hosting
with
the
Western
provinces.
So
there
will
be
additional
help
with
that
and
in
terms
of
some
success
stories.
Let
me
just
share
a
few
items
with
you.
The
department
will
continue
to
promote
the
benefits
of
existing
trade
agreements
to
Alberta
exporters
and
now
we've
expanded
the
Eeps,
so
that
should
should
help
as
well.
I
We
will
also
emphasize
our
agreements
with
the
European
Union
and
the
trans
Civic
partnership
countries,
I.
Think
I,
think
I've
answered
that
question.
For
the
most
part,
I
can
provide
some
more
discrete
details,
but
but
I
think.
E
Yep,
thank
you.
Mister
Madam,
chair
I'm,
going
to
see
the
rest
of
my
time
to
my
colleague,
the
member
for
em
to
Melwood.
J
Thank
you
very
much,
thank
you
Minister
and
to
the
Department
officials
who
are
here.
My
questions
are
going
to
focus
around
outcome
too,
and
the
portion
of
the
ministry
that
came
from
labor
and
immigrant,
the
former
labor
and
immigration,
and
to
start
with
I'd
love
to
find
out
a
little
bit
more
about
the
settlement
dollars.
J
The
settlement
and
integration
initiatives,
just
because
provincial
funding
in
this
area
is
so
important
and
there's
so
many
amazing
settlement
agencies
that
rely
on
this
funding
to
do
their
work
and
the
provincial
dollars
so
often
are
used
to
kind
of
fill
in
the
gaps
where
the
federal
programs
are
are
not
meeting
the
needs
and
so
I'm.
J
Just
asking
a
very,
very
broad
question
about
the
trends
you're
seeing
and
any
Trends
you
may
be
seeing
from
the
federal
government
and
what
they're
doing
with
their
dollars
and
how
the
province
is
responding
to
to
best
support
this
entire
area
and
I'll.
Just
stop
with
that
and
we'll
have
about
two
minutes
before
we'll
be
cut
off.
I
Yes,
absolutely
and
I'm
really
glad
member
grade
that
you
asked
this
question,
because
this
is
a
significant
area
of
interest
for
myself.
We
know
that
language
supports
are
more
critical
now
than
they've
ever
been
before,
with
the
Ukrainian
temporary
residence.
We
have
over
23,
24,
000
I,
believe
in
the
province,
and
we
have
a
number
of
Afghan
refugees
and
strategies
and
refugees
from
other
parts
of
the
world.
I
So
we
do
have
nine
million
dollars
allocated
to
newcomer
integration
and
that
and
that
the
asip
grants,
which
are
the
silver
and
the
fni
grants
and
and
a
sensitive
to
your
comment
around
the
fact
that
we
have
some
amazing
organizations
within
our
province
that
provide
these
services
and
and
I
won't
have
enough
time
to
get
into
the
particulars
about
my
desire
to
make
sure
that
we
expand
these
services
and
provide
more
diversity
in
the
offering
of
these
Services.
I
Because,
quite
frankly,
the
face
of
Alberta
is
changing,
is
changing
rapidly
and
the
we
still
have
newcomers
who
are
have
been
in
this
province
for
years,
often
even
a
decade,
who
aren't
even
aware
that
these
services
are
available
now
I
do
want
to
touch
very
quickly
on
some
of
my
conversations
with
my
federal
counterpart,
I
was
at
the
fmri
in
Halifax
last
week,
and
one
of
the
items
that
I
had
brought
forward
is
that
there
should
be
some
measure
of
devolution
version
of
these,
these
Support
Services
to
the
provinces
and
territories.
I
Because
again,
it
goes
back
to
the
fact
that
each
PT
has
their
local
unique
needs
and
we
can
be
more
responsive
and
agile
if
we
have
more
control
over
some
of
these
settlement.
Funds
and
I
did
put
that
to
the
minister
Minister
Sean
Fraser.
He
wasn't
necessarily
enthusiastic
about
it,
as
I
was,
as
you
can
imagine,
but
because
I
have
held
the
social
services
portfolio.
I
have
a
lot
to
say
on
this
matter.
B
H
Wonderful,
Minister
and
I
appreciate
actually
the
question
by
member
grade,
because
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
it
and,
in
particular,
key
objective.
2.1
of
the
business
plan,
which
says
the
ministry
delivers
newcomer
programming
to
International
Talent
can
put
their
skills
to
work
in
Alberta,
including
by
ensuring
new
albertans,
have
access
to
language
and
Settlement
Services
and
Minister
I've
become
increasingly
aware
that
the
face
of
Alberta
really
is
changing
and
that's
a
wonderful
thing.
H
I
see
so
many
even
in
Red
Deer,
which
typically
the
larger
centers,
Calgary
and
Edmonton
often
receive
you
know
a
disproportionate
higher
percentage
of
newcomers
coming
to
Canada,
but
in
Red
Deer
I
just
talked
about
it.
Yesterday
in
a
member
statement,
I
went
to
a
French
immersion,
school
and
I
saw
all
these
students
there
and
I
I
just
felt
prompted
to
ask
you
know
how
many
of
them
moved
here
from
another
country
and
about
half
the
gym
stood
up,
and
that
was
amazing
to
me.
H
H
Because
it's
kind
of
scary,
leaving
your
home
coming
to
a
new
land
and
seeking
a
better
life,
but
I
have
a
lot
of
respect
and
admiration
for
the
courage
and
the
character
that
it
takes
and
they
come
here
because
there
is
such
great
freedom
and
prosperity.
Alberg
we're
seeing
record
number
of
international
newcomers
coming
to
Alberta
and
that's
such
a
wonderful
thing.
They
have
to
offer.
So
you
know
we
have
this
great
Prosperity.
H
This
great
freedom-
and
you
know
opportunity
for
families
coming
in
and
certainly
ESL
as
you
mentioned,
is
a
really
important
need.
We
have
newcomers
with
great
skills
and
talents
that
you
know
and
as
they
become
more
proficient
in
the
language
that
just
allows
them
to
become
more
self-reliant
and
you
know
for
their
families
and
provide
and
and
serve
in
our
communities.
H
Could
you
just
share
some
examples
of
some
of
the
newcomer
programming
and
Settlement
Services
that
that
you
have
provided
through
the
ministry
love
to
give
you
the
opportunity
to
expand
on
it?
I
know
you
didn't
have
as
much
time
with
member
Grace
excellent
question
I'd
like
to
give
you
a
bit
more
time
to
to
talk
about
that.
You
know
and
in
particular
talk
about
ESL.
That's
such
a
really
wonderful,
important
thing
that
we
can
do
as
a
province.
I
Certainly
I've
spent
Safi
and
the
level
of
diversity
that
we
are
experiencing
in
the
present
is
is
obviously
unprecedented
and,
as
somebody
who
was
born
and
raised
in
Calgary
in
the
early
70s,
I
won't
tell
you
exactly
what
year.
I'm
sure
you
already
know,
but
I
can
tell
you
how
often
I
was
the
only
one,
the
only
one
in
many
different
rooms
who
was
someone
from
a
visible
minority
background
and
so
to
be
able
to
see
the
province
in
our
nation.
I
Today
is
it's
very
gratifying,
and
we
know
that,
of
course,
our
country
will
grow
through
immigration.
We
are
not
as
we're
less
than
zero
population
growth,
so
it's
important
to
create
a
very
welcoming,
inclusive
and
celebratory
environment
and
I'm,
actually
very
proud
of
the
supports
that
the
government
of
Alberta
does
provide
for
newcomer,
supports
and
and
I
also
know
that
awareness
of
these
supports
are
not
that
awareness
is
not
where
it
needs
to
be,
but
I'll
get
into
that
after
just
describing
some
of
the
programs
that
are
available.
I
So
if
there
are
gaps
that
arise
due
to
insufficient
funding
from
the
federal
government,
Province
kicks
in
some
funding
to
meet
those
gaps
supports
for
newcomer
integration,
Sni
grants
they
fund
ongoing
settlement
in
language
services
to
support
newcomers
integration
while
they
live
and
work
in
Alberta
and
there's
three
specific
streams
under
Sni
there's
a
settlement
in
Community,
Support,
Services,
there's
language
assessment
and
referral
services,
dreams
that
fund
services
to
provide
newcomers
again
with
English
language
assessment
and
English
as
an
additional
language
or
eal
drop-in
services.
This
funds
alternative,
flexible
and
short-term
English
language
opportunities.
H
Great
and
just
in
connection
with
that
I
know,
you
mentioned
a
desire
to
increase
awareness
of
of
these
programs.
You
know
we
do
have
these
wonderful
resources
for
newcomers,
sometimes
perhaps
there's
language
barriers
and
being
aware
of
perhaps
some
of
these
opportunities
that
there
are
for
them
to
support
and
love
them.
You
know,
as
they
you
know,
get
adjusted
to
our
Winters
and
and
accolate
to
some
of
the
new
things
that
they're
experiencing.
What
what
are
we
able
to
do
as
a
government
to
increase
awareness
of
some
of
these
programs.
I
Okay,
so
member
stefanen
and
everybody
in
this
room
I
do
want
to
address
this
in
a
little
bit
more
detail
and
I
told
this
story
at
fmri
and
Gosha
and
Echo
were
there
when
I
was
talking
about
this.
So
when
my
father
immigrated
to
Canada
in
the
late
60s,
he
was
the
only
person
in
his
family
out
of
five
siblings,
who
had
a
university
education.
So
we
had
not
one
degree
but
two
degrees,
a
ba
and
a
b
Ed
and
he
taught
when
he
was
in
India.
I
He
tried,
but
he
just
couldn't
get
into
the
labor
force.
As
a
teacher
and
I
remember,
and
he
worked
for
CPR
very
successful
man,
but
I
remember
he
would
come,
who
think
and
just
look
at
his
hands
and
His
Hands
would
be
soiled
and
he
would
say
and
I
asked
him.
I
said:
why
aren't
you
just
washing
your
hands
like
what
is
this
about
and
he
said,
I
never
thought
that
I
would
have
dirty
hands
here
in
Canada,
because
he
was
a
farmer
back
home.
I
He
thought
that
he
would
be
able
to
realize
his
dreams
of
getting
into
a
teaching
profession.
So
years
later,
when
I
learned
a
little
bit
more
about
the
services
that
were
available,
I
asked
him.
I
said:
why
didn't
you
Avail
yourself
of
these
services
like
there
was
Manpower
at
that
time,
and
he
said
I
just
did
didn't
know
so.
I
I
come
out
from
a
very
ethnically
diverse
constituency
and
I
door,
not
quite
a
bit,
and
this
is
a
story
I
hear
over
and
over
again
just
recently,
I
was
door
knocking
just
last
year
and
same
story:
I
went
to
the
doorstep
of
an
individual
who
was
a
truck
driver
when
I
asked
him
a
little
bit
more
about
his
background.
He
revealed
that
he
was
an
engineer
and
again
now
this
time,
I
knew
the
names
of
all
of
these
settlement
organizations
Center
for
newcomers,
Calgary,
Catholic,
Immigration,
Services,
immigrant
Services,
etc,
etc.
I
I
said
why
didn't
you
talk
to
any
of
these
organizations
and
it
was
the
same
story.
He
said
I
just
didn't
know
so
that's
50
years
later,
and
we
still
have
this
issue
of
newcomers
in
this
country
who
are
here
for
years
or
maybe
even
days
or
months,
and
they
don't
know
of
the
services
that
are
available
to
them
now.
I
know
in
my
binder
I
have
notes
that
indicate
that
you
know
these
organizations
they
can
handle
Flyers
they
advertise
on
their
website.
I
The
government
of
Alberta
advertises
on
its
websites,
but
I
will
maintain
that
this
is
not
enough.
We
need
to
understand
why
newcomers
are
not
receiving
the
information
that
they
need
to
be
able
to
help
them
settle
more
quickly
and
with
more
confidence
and
through
my
work
in
government,
extensive
work,
especially
during
covid
when
I
was
in
the
social
services
portfolio.
We
really
need
to
engage
Grassroots
organizations.
I
H
Was
our
excellent
comments?
Minister
actually
just
from
personal
experience?
I
had
the
opportunity
to
worship
on
Sunday
with
members
of
the
Sikh
faith
Temple
that
they've
built
in
Red
Deer
before
they
just
used
to
have
temples
in
Calgary
and
Edmonton,
and
it's
wonderful
for
members
of
the
Sikh
fate
to
have
that
opportunity
to
gather
and
worship
together.
H
So
some
good
insight
there,
Minister
I,
want
to
talk
about
just
in
terms
of
the
Alberta
Advantage
immigration
program
that
we
have
and
136
at
the
business
plan
talks
about
this
being
a
performance
measure.
This
is,
of
course,
related
to
a
specific
program
of
residency
for
newcomers,
and
the
nominees
under
this
program
have
skills
that
will
help
fill
some
of
the
job
and
labor
shortages
that
we
have
at
Alberta,
which
are
many
with
our
wonderful
growing
economy
and
the
prosperity
that
we're
seeing
and
so
nominees.
H
Under
this
program
have
these
skills
or
entrepreneurial
and
wanting
to
start
a
business,
which
of
course,
is
something
we
love
in
Alberta.
We
are
entrepreneurial
and
prosperous
jurisdiction
in
place,
and
so
my
understanding
is
in
2022.
The
number
of
certificates
issued
by
Under,
the
Alberta
Advantage
immigration
program
was
six
thousand
five
hundred
and
fifty
four
and
the
target
for
2023
is
97.50
and
that's
a
huge
that's,
a
huge
increase
and
that's
a
wonderful
thing.
H
So
my
understanding
is
is
that
this
Target
was
recently
confirmed
in
a
news
release
identifying
that
the
federal
government
has
granted
and
partnered
with
Alberta
in
these
nominations
and
I'd.
Like
to
ask
what
your
ministry
is
doing
to
ensure
that
the
federal
government
expands
the
number
of
immigrants
accepted
under
this
program
and
in
connection
with
that,
how
will
your
department
Meet
The
increased
Target
in
provincial
nominees.
I
Well,
well,
thank
you
for
that
that
great
question
and
there's
so
much
background
in
from
share.
So
we
had
a
a
target
of
6500
nomination
certificates
last
year
and
we
have
filled
all
of
them
and
I
know
that
when
I
was
first
born
into
this
ministry,
this
was
a
topic
of
great
discussion
between
myself
and
the
former
Minister
Minister
Madu
who's
in
skilled
trades
and
professions,
and
we
had
talked
about
the
fact
that
he
had
made
a
very
audacious
ask.
I
Last
year
at
fmri
he
had
basically
asked
for
double
the
nomination
certificates
and
when
the
The
Plan
was
introduced
in
November
of
2022
by
the
federal
minister
of
immigration,
we
had
a
feeling
that
we
probably
wouldn't
be
getting
those
numbers,
but
certainly
I
I
did
my
part
and
I
contacted
Minister,
Sean,
Fraser
and
said:
look
I
would
love
the
opportunity
to
sit
down
and
meet
with
you
and
to
tell
you
the
story
of
Alberta
like
we're
talking
about
energy
transition,
we're
talking
about
the
hydrogen
economy,
they're
CC,
us
there's,
so
many
technical
professions
that
are
required
to
help
actually
actualize
some
of
these
elements
and
the
only
way
we
can
do
that
is
to
make
sure
we
leverage
all
tools
at
our
disposal,
and
one
of
that
was
our
immigration
Stream,
So
I.
I
You
know
we.
We
had
a
two
and
a
half
hour
meeting
in
my
office
and
we've
got
a
former
minister
of
Labor
and
immigration
here
who
understands
the
value
of
getting
those
targets
increased,
and
so,
when
I,
when
I
got
the
letter,
indicating
that
our
targets
had
increased
by
by
50
percent,
which
is
much
more
than
what
other
jurisdictions
received.
I
was
thrilled,
because
this
is
Monumental
news
to
be
able
to
get
almost
9
800
nomination
certificates
for
2023
and
we
will
fill
them.
I
We
have
put
some
money
in
our
budget
for
additional
staff
to
make
sure
that
that
work
is
work
is
underway
and
I
know
abortion,
my
ADM
is
it
all
mapped
out
and
all
planned
out
how
it's
all
going
to
happen,
but
even
our
allocations
in
the
subsequent
years
are
really
something.
So
when
I
was
at
fmr
FML
there
were.
I
There
were
a
lot
of
envious
glances
in
our
Direction
when
these
numbers
came
up
because
we
did
get
more
I,
don't
want
to
say
our
fair
share,
but
we
certainly
did
get
more
as
compared
to
other
jurisdictions,
and
that
really
is
an
indication
of
the
fact
that
we
need
highly
skilled
qualified
labor.
So
we
have
seven
immigration
streams
within
the
Alberta
Advantage
immigration
programs.
I
Those
numbers
have
suddenly
gone
up
because
we've
prioritized
family
connections.
That
was
always
there
like.
You
could
always
talk
about
that,
but
we've
actually
intentionally
put
policy
in
place.
That
indicates
that
a
certain
proportion
Express,
the
entry
applicants
have
to
have
a
family
connection
or
we're
going
to
prioritize
those
applications.
So
there's
a
lot
of
good
news
stories
here
in
the
immigration
portfolio
and
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
have.
I
We
have
space
in
our
budget
for
additional
staff
and
I'm
working
on
some
other
elements
in
regards
to
policy
with
some
of
our
other
immigration
streams,
and
hopefully,
we'll
have
some
good
news
to
share
shortly.
H
Well,
that's
wonderful,
I
I
have
no
doubt
that
we
will
see
record
number
of
individuals
want
to
come
here.
Is
such
a
blessed
place,
there's
so
many
opportunities
and
I'm
so
grateful
that
it's
a
win-win
for
sure
I
know
a
lot
of
the
newcomers
they
have
talents
and
skills
and
gifts
and
they're
going
to
make
Alberta
better
and
really
excited
for
the
great
work
that
you're
doing
in
the
ministry.
I
really
appreciate
you
answering
my
questions.
Minister
I'll
turn
the
rest
of
my
time
over
to
my
friend,
minister
or
sorry,
a
member
alard.
D
D
D
I
Those
are
aspirational
and
I
mean
we
have
our
targets
from
the
federal
government.
It's
just
shy
of
11
000
for
year
three
and
it's
ten
thousand
I
can't
remember
the
exact
number,
but
you
know
what
there
is
a
provision
within
thought:
whole
Federal
allocation.
If
there
are
some
jurisdictions
who
are
unable
to
use
their
nomination
certificates,
other
jurisdictions
can
apply
to
get
those,
so
those
numbers
are
13
000
and
they're
aspirational,
but
we
have
our
actual
targets
delivered
by
the
federal
government.
Well,.
D
D
So
I
just
applaud
you
for
that.
Through
the
chair,
we
don't
have
much
time
left.
I
will
ask
one
more
question.
D
In
your
conversation
with
MLA
Stephanie,
you
talked
about
the
newcomer,
so
International
Talent
can
put
their
skills
to
work
in
Alberta,
including
by
ensuring
new
albertans,
have
access
to
language
and
Settlement
Services,
and
you
have
about
40
seconds
left
just
wondering
if
you
can
identify
areas
that
Alberta
can
improve
upon
in
terms
of
improving
newcomer
programming,
so
they
can
fulfill
their
potential
in
the
labor
market.
I
And
I
I
know
we
don't
have
much
time
left
time
left,
but
it
goes
back
to
what
to
whatever.
Is
that
their
many
newcomers
here
in
this
country,
including
Ukrainian,
temporary
residents?
We
think
that
we've
done
so
much
in
terms
of
providing
supports
and
we
have
as
a
government
and
federal
government
as
a
nation
we
have
much
to
be
proud
of,
but
there
is
still
a
gap
in
knowledge
in
terms
of
what
what
individuals
know
and
what
information
they've
been
exposed
to.
B
Thank
you.
That
concludes
the
government,
Member's
First
block
of
questions.
Now
we
move
to
five
minutes
of
questions
from
the
official
opposition,
followed
by
five
minutes
of
response
from
the
minister.
As
mentioned,
members
are
asked
to
advise
the
chair
at
the
beginning
of
their
rotation
if
they
wish
to
combine
their
time
with
The
Minister's
time.
Remember.
J
Let's
keep
talking
about
Ai
and
A8
IP
again,
because
I
want
to
understand
the
the
budget
that's
being
allocated
with
the
50
increase
and
the
the
increases
that
will
happen
in
2024
and
2025
I
understand
the
department
is
trying
to
get
ready
to
to
manage
that
new
higher
level,
but
looking
at
the
budget
and
as
I'm
specifically
going
to
look
at
page
138
of
the
business
plan,
because
you
can
see
the
forward
targets
I'm,
seeing
on
the
immigration
and
multiculturism
line,
an
increase
for
this
year
show
says
32
million
there,
but
for
2024
and
2025
there's
actually
a
decrease
to
those
lines,
and
so,
with
the
number
of
nominees
increasing
each
and
every
year,
I'm
just
curious
when
it
comes
to
Staffing
or
hiring.
J
I
Phil
for
the
for
the
immigration
and
Multicultural
line
is
collapsed,
but
if
you
divided
out
the
and
you
just
if
you're
looking
that
newcomers
supports
only
that
should
be
fairly
flat
for
the
three
years.
The
multiculturalism
component
is
going
to
go
down
in
subsequent
years
and
that's
because
of
the
Ukrainian
supports
right.
They
are
going
to
be
funded
this
year
and
a
little
bit
next
year,
and
so
that
particular
that's
why
you
see
that
total
budget
number
going
down
it's
because
of
the
multiculturalism
component.
Thank.
J
You
very
much
for
that.
Okay,
so
that's
going
to
stay
flat
and
that's
helpful
and
you
answered
one
of
my
questions
just
to
run
that
performance,
metric,
2.8
I
was
curious,
why
it
was
set
to
13
000
but
you're,
hoping
that
perhaps
other
jurisdictions
won't
use
all
of
their
nominations
and
you
may
be
able
to
go
higher
than
the
target
set
by
the
federal
government.
So
in
2024
the
10
849
you
you've
got
your
Target
in
the
business
plan
set
to
13.
I
Yeah-
and
you
know-
that's
that's
a
forward-looking
number,
because
the
federal
government
might
come
back
with
we
buy.
I
We
buy
ever
anticipated
the
Russian
invasion
of
rain
and
there's
so
many
things
that
I
mean
it's
brought
additional
graphitized
to
this
whole
conversation
around
immigration,
so
those
are
our
targets,
but
again
I
just
have
a
sense
that
they
could
be
subject
to
change
as
well
and,
of
course,
we
would
obviously
welcome
any
unallocated
nominations
too
well.
I'm.
J
Incredibly,
supportive
of
the
increases
that
Alberta
is
getting
I
was
very
disappointed
when
this
government
capped
the
nominations
at
4
000
just
a
couple
years
ago
and
didn't
take
advantage
of
of
all
the
opportunity
and
I
hope
that
that
impacts
the
conversations
or
make
it
harder.
When
you
were
having
conversations
with
the
federal
government,
I
realized,
you
were
not
the
minister
at
the
time,
but.
I
But
I'll
just
oh,
please,
yeah
I,
think
that
happened
around
kovid
right
when
there
were
no
flights
and
we
weren't
having
people
coming
in
and
it
was
just.
It
was
a
pandemic
related
decision.
J
Understood
understood,
I
just
very
much
was
concerned
about
the
potential
impact
it
could
have,
because
Alberta
was
the
only
province
that
was
doing
that
as
far
as
I
I'm
aware
feel
free
to
correct
me,
I
tried
to
look
and-
and
it
didn't
seem
like
other
provinces
or
jurisdictions
were,
were
taking
the
same
measure,
so
it
put
Alberta
in
a
unique
boat
but
I'm
glad
to
see
the
increases
happening
now
as
much
as
I
disagreed
with
the
decision
there.
J
I
am
looking
on
the
website
and
it
shows
that
AIP
is
assessing
applications
received
before
December,
20th,
2022
and
I
realized.
The
website
might
not
be
fully
up
to
date,
but
given
we
are
on
March
14th,
that's
you
know
three
months
back
I'm
wondering
if
we're
seeing
the
processing
time
really
starting
to
get
a
bit
longer
are.
Are
we
concerned
that
it
is
taking
a
little
bit
longer
for
and
again
the
dates
there?
J
It
means
that
those
applications
received
after
December
20th
have
not
been
assigned
to
an
officer
for
assessment
and
the
only
other
comment
I'll,
add
and
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you
and
officials,
for
your
response
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
look
at
that
very
carefully
is
because,
when
I
was
first
in
the
role
of
of
Minister
responsible
for
immigration,
the
nominee
program
at
the
time,
we
really
had
some
backlog
issues.
J
It
was
a
huge
driver
for
the
changes
to
the
program
in
2018
and
one
of
the
reasons
why
things
were
streamlined
and
the
trend
from
this
government
has
been
to
create
more
streams
and
we
kind
of
brought
things
together
and
it's
expanding
out
again
and
I
would
hate
to
see
backlogs
or
issues
with
processing
start
to
happen.
So
please
tell
me
your
perspective
and
how
things
are
looking
from
your
seat
right
now,.
I
Okay,
well,
thank
you
for
those
questions
and
speaking
to
actually
are
a
wealth
of
information
in
terms
of
processing
times,
because
this
is
their
bread
and
butter
and
I
haven't
heard
that
feedback
from
them
that
they
have
seen
a
a
big
backlog.
I
I
know
that
the
Alberta
opportunity
stream
takes
about
three
months
Rich,
who
one
to
two
a
month
for
the
espresso
entry
and
the
the
tech
pilot
is
about
a
month,
and
you
know,
as
and
as
I've
been
speaking
to
members
of
the
team,
I
don't
believe
we
have
had
any
significant
feedback
from
from
anyone
indicating
that
there
is
a
a
backlog.
J
And
would
you
be
able
to
tell
me,
is
it
trending
that
the
processing
times
there
are
growing
longer
shorter
or
staying
the
same.
I
Staying
the
same,
been
talking
to
people
within
the
industry
like
in
the
Consulting
industry,
have
also
had
an
opportunity
to
speak
to
individuals
who-
and
this
thing
you
know
they
didn't
even
know.
I
was
a
provincial
immigration
minister.
They
just
knew
that
I
was
something
in
the
in
the
provincial
government.
I
So,
of
course
everybody
always
wants
to
know
about
immigration,
and-
and
they
were
asking-
you
know
like
what
do
you
know
about
the
federal
policies
and
I've
applied
for
AIP
I
haven't
heard
anything
yet,
and
so
that
gave
me
an
opening
to
say
well,
these
are
the
the
processing
times
and
they
hadn't
met
those
thresholds
as
of
yet
so
we
don't
have
any
backlog
for.
I
J
Makes
that
makes
more
sense
and
that's
great.
These
are
numbers
I'm
just
going
to
continue
to
to
watch
through
the
estimates
process.
J
I'm
curious,
if
you
can
tell
me
how
many
people
have
gone
through
the
accelerated
Tech
pathway,
I've
mentioned
about
one
month
before
that,
and
just
looking
at
the
website,
it
seems
the
the
thing
to
start
it
off
is
very
open-ended
like
tell
us
who
you
are,
and
then
the
department
reaches
out
to
start
a
conversation.
How
many
people
are
have
used
that
so
far?
Well,.
I
It's
a
great
program
and
I
hear
quite
a
bit
about
this
through
many
different
stakeholders.
So
since
Inception
we've
processed
1200
applications.
I
J
So,
thank
you
very
much
for
that
and
then
the
website
talks
about
the
low
volume
of
applications
for
farm
stream,
foreign
graduate
entrepreneur
stream
graduate
entrepreneur
stream
and
Rural
entrepreneur
stream
and
for
that
reason,
doesn't
provide
processing
times.
Can
you
contextualize
that
for
me,
what
does
low
volume
of
applications
either
in
numbers
or
percentage
for
those
four
streams.
I
I
would
say
very
low
in
terms
of
the
absolute
value
in
terms
of
numbers,
some
of
these
programs.
These
streams
are
fairly
new,
and
so
we
just
haven't
had
the
uptake
covet
has
had
an
impact,
and
so
I'm
I'm,
taking
a
deeper
look
at
some
of
these
streams
to
to
get
a
better
understanding
of
why
the
uptake
is
is
not
where
it
should
be.
J
One
hand
or
two
okay,
very
low,
understood
you
mentioned
for
the
opportunity
stream.
You
were
talking
about
the
family
connection
and
Minister.
Just
when
you
were
speaking,
you
said
it
in
two
different
ways
and
I'd
like
to
know
just
more
specifically
how
the
family
connection
works,
because
you
said
it
was
a
percentage
of
Express
entry,
but
then
you
also
use
the
word
prioritize.
So
is
it?
Is
it
a
Target
percentage
or
is
it
a
change
to
the
process?
I
So
there
is
more
of
a
concerted
effort
and
I
believe
that
25
of
all
Express
and
trees
that
have
a
family
connection,
so
a
a
relative
meaning,
a
parent,
a
sibling
or
a
child
that
those
applications
will
be
prioritized
up
to
25
of
Express
entries.
Do
you
know
what
it
used
to
be.
J
B
You
at
this
point
I
would
now
like
to
call
the
previously
agreed
upon
five-minute
break.
We
will
be
resuming
at
8
52..
Thank
you.
A
A
A
B
B
B
F
F
F
Calling
them
erroneously
trade
offices,
yeah
they're
in
the
minister
and
a
member
bill,
has
had
a
great
back
and
forth
on
this,
and
I
really
appreciated
that
and
I
would
just
reinforce
again
that
they
are
not
trade
offices.
Specifically,
they
are
international
offices
and
that's
a
really
important
distinction.
Besides
trade
investment,
which
is
critically
important,
they
also
are
mandated
for
formal
government
ties
so
diplomacy.
They
engage
in
cultural
Intercultural
exchange
and
they
advocate
for
Alberta
on
a
government.
F
The
government
basis,
so
incredibly
important
and
furthermore,
in
in
the
in
the
previous
relationship,
invest
Alberta
in
the
Alberta
International
Trade
offices.
The
former
framework
they
were
in
I
would
just
say,
mildly
and
politely.
We
we
found
out
did
not
work,
and
so
I
am
happy
and
I'm
glad
to
see
and
thank
you
Minister
for
your
influence
on
this
and
everyone
else.
It
was
the
right
decision
to
separate,
invest
Alberta
from
the
international
trade
offices
under
different
jurisdictions
in
terms
of
cabinet,
with
executive,
Council
and
Tim.
F
It
has
worked
out
well,
they
should
always
be,
and
they
are
now
separate,
co-equal
entities
that
cooperate,
but
one
doesn't
report
to
the
other.
That
was
not
working
and
I'm
glad
to
see
that
corrected.
So
again,
just
on
the
record,
that
was
the
right
decision,
then.
F
The
government
relationship
is
incredibly
important
and
it
is
elevated
on
a
very
high
pedestal
and
in
those
countries,
status,
Rank
and
Prestige
are
incredibly
important,
and
so
they
want
to
see,
for
example,
the
international
offices
in
the
executive
Council,
because
they
see
things
through
the
prism
of
rank
status
and
procedure.
We
Elevate
the
international
offices
when
we
put
them
back
rightly
I
would
say
into
the
executive
Council.
So
it
is
incredibly
important
as
we
penetrate
and
Advance
further
in
the
indo-pacific
region,
which
Alberta's
economic
Destiny
is
tied
to
that.
F
I
am
so
happy
to
see
them
back
there.
So
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
on
the
record.
They
are
international
office,
okay,
so
my
question
now
Minister
your
mandate
letter
directs
you
to
ensure
Alberta
is
seen
as
a
top
destination
for
foreign
investment
and
a
primary
Canadian
headquarters
for
New
Market
entrants.
F
Page
135
of
the
trade
immigration
and
multiculturalism
business
plan
identifies
45
million
in
funding
over
the
three
fiscal
years
of
budget
2023
for
the
investment
in
growth
fund,
and
so
we
had
a
great
conversation
on
this
too
back
and
forth,
and
you
know
we
are
Texas
North.
If
you
will,
we
have
to
compete
with
the
Texas
Enterprise
fund
to
close
deals,
that's
incredibly
important
that
was
established
in
2003.
F
It's
incredibly
successful
and
invest
Alberta
and
those
other
programs
that
you
listed
in
a
great
conversation,
I
would
say
through
the
chair
with
member
Bellis,
was
very
enlightening.
So
again,
what
is
the
purpose
of
this
fund
and
how
will
this
fund
help
make
Alberta
a
top
destination
for
foreign
investment
in
Canada?
So
that's
my
first
question
and
I
also
just
say
it:
it's
always
great
to
see
Tim
in
the
new
iteration.
F
It's
really
exciting
hello
to
Gosha
my
former
boss,
I,
really
great
to
see
you
and
just
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
iqoss
and
aimp,
where
I
worked
for
many
many
years
before
I
flipped
over
and
became
an
MLA,
so
just
wonderful
and
so
Minister
as
I
understand
it
just
to
be
consistent,
we're
going
with
shared
time
here.
So
if
you
want
to
go
with
my
first
question,
I
appreciate
that
sure.
M
I
But
I
I
do
want
to
say
that
I
appreciate
your
opening
comments
around
the
cultural
implications
of
how
Prestige
and
status
and
rank
are
perceived
in
in
many
countries
in
the
indo-pacific,
and
certainly
in
Asian
countries.
I
You're
right
that,
if
you
know
office
is
directly
linked
to
the
top
level
of
leadership,
which
is
the
Premier
it's
perceived
very
very
differently,
and
it
was
a
good
reminder
for
me
when
I,
traveled
and
I
always
forget
that
I'm,
a
minister
and
the
whole
Minister
thing
never
really
impacts
me
in
any
real
way
when
I'm
here,
but
when
you're
traveling
overseas,
particularly
to
those
jurisdictions.
It's
a
it's
a
very
important
station
to
hold
as
you're
talking
about
negotiations
and
trade
agreements,
and
things
like
that
I
mean
the
conversation.
I
Can
leadership
for
your
comments
were
very
well
placed
and
and
you're
right.
You
know
we
in
terms
of
the
international
growth
fund,
it's
an
important
tool
that
we
use
within
the
government
and
with
our
other
partners
to
make
sure
that
we
can
attract
investment,
and
it
is
one
of
the
first
deal.
Closing
investment
programs
in
Canada
and
I
mean
we
were
inspired
by
the
Texas
Enterprise
fund.
This
is
very
different
from
that
it.
Obviously
it's
catered
to
the
realities
of
Alberta,
but
it
has
helped.
I
We've
I
was
mentioning
seven
igf
applications
that
were
approved
and
the
funding
has
gone
out
and
it's
just
another
element
of
making
our
jurisdiction
more
competitive
with
competing
jurisdictions.
We
know
that
that's
a
reality.
We
do
know
that
many
companies
just
need
a
bit
of
a
push
to
make
that
final
investment
decision.
I
I've
heard
that,
from
you
know
the
two
companies
that
I
worked
with
Simon
Foods
in
a
plexus
both
were
being
courted
by
other
jurisdictions
and
just
knowing
that
they
had
additional
help
through
the
concierge
service
through
everything,
that's
provided
by,
invest,
Alberta
and
additional
funds
to
help
them
settle
and
move
it
was.
It
was
very,
very
successful
incentive
grants
like
the
igf,
regardless
of
the
amount
they
show.
Serious
investors
at
investment
attraction
and
in
particular,
High
impacting
Investments
That,
create
meaningful
jobs
and
contribute
significantly
to
economic
growth
is
a
high
priority
for
the
province.
F
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
and
again
just
to
Echo
your
comments
on
the
importance
of
having
the
Alberta
International
offices
in
executive,
Council,
nine
of
our
16
International
offices.
As
you
would
know,
Minister
are
located
in
the
name
and
frankly,
I'll
be
advocating.
We
need
a
few
more
probably
there
in
that
Dynamic
region.
So
again,
it's
just
so
important
that
we
have
both
invest
Alberta
and
the
international
office
Network,
cooperating
complementing
each
other,
sometimes
hunting
as
a
pack,
but
sometimes
the
international
offices
will
enhance
relations
through
soft
diplomacy
like
in
the
1980s.
F
We
brought
curling
to
Hokkaido
our
sister
province
in
Japan
through
Grassroots
work
through
bar
head
great
Community,
but
also
we
brought
Goa
people
over
there
to
Foster
that
relationship
in
whatever
predecessor
was
your
ministry
back
in
the
1980s
and
a
great
guy
Stan.
He
was
part
of
that
he's
a
retired,
a
civil
servant
insured
hiding,
and
he
tells
me
all
about
these
important
stories.
So
I
guess
I
would
just
continue
on
here
with
the
investment
and
growth
fund
Minister.
F
So,
on
page
35
of
the
trade,
immigration
and
multiculturalism,
business
plan
and
I
know
what
a
strong
Advocate
you
are
for.
Multiculturalism
I
greatly
appreciate
your
work
on
this
file.
How
does
the
investment
and
growth
fund
Elevate
Alberta's
competitiveness
with
investors
in
general
and
then
the
performance
measure
for
the
investment
and
growth
fund
is
245
million
million
of
cumulative
capital
investment
in
Alberta
committed
to
by
recipients
of
the
program
in
2023
2024?
I
Okay,
thank
you
and
let
me
just
say
that
I
really
do
appreciate
your
knowledge
of
Japanese
culture
and
the
business
environment.
I
mean
you've
expressed
that,
in
terms
of
your
knowledge
around
did
you
say
curling,
yes,.
I
That's
incredible
an
answer
to
your
question.
You
know
the
igf
targets,
new
investment
into
the
province
as
well
as
expansion
of
domestic
companies
looking
to
increase
their
competitive
advantage
in
the
global
market.
An
increase
in
capital
investment
in
the
province
creates
more
jobs
for
albertans
and
is
a
catalyst
for
economic
diversification.
B
J
So
I
think
I
I
kind
of
blurted.
A
last
question
and
I
was
just
asking
prior
to
the
change
for
processing
family
connection.
So
the
new
the
target
has
been
set
of
25
I
was
just
wondering
if
the
department
had
measured
prior
to
that
new
specific
Target.
What
percentage
of
all
Express
entry
that
had
family
connection
was
being
processed
beforehand.
I
A
J
To
lift
those
applicants
up
in
the
ranking
system,
oh
thank
you.
That's
very
helpful
to
understand
how
big
of
a.
J
So
I
appreciate
that
very
much
now
I
had
a
couple
of
questions
about
yours
performance.
Metrics
I
already
asked
the
one
about
2A
for
2B
I.
Just
noticed
that
the
icos
survey
is
currently
biennial
and
we'll
be
moving
to
an
annual
basis
and
I
was
just
wondering
why
the
change.
A
I
Thank
you
so
the
answer
to
that
is
to
get
more
frequent
results.
J
On
performance,
metric,
2C,
Alberta's
percentage
share
of
the
total
number
of
permanent
residents
in
Canada
I
realized.
Looking
at
this
going
back
to
2017
that
there
appears
to
be
a
clear
trend
of
decrease
and
I
wondered
if
you
or
the
experts
within
your
department
might
be
able
to
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
why
we
think
that
is,
and
what
targeted
measures
we
may
be
taking
to
correct
that.
J
I
Yes,
yes
you're
after
absolutely
right-
and
these
are
I
mean
our
last
actuals
are
in
2021-22,
as
you
can
see,
but
I
think
our
new
allocation
of
nomination
certificates
is
going
to
have
a
significant
impact
and
I
know
that
Alberta
is
calling
campaign.
It
is
very
intentional
about
talking
about
you,
know,
Alberta
as
a
as
a
destination
of
choice,
for
newcomers
to
come
and
and
settle
in
there's
so
much.
We
have
to
offer
here,
including
low
tax
climate.
Here
we've
got
affordable
housing.
I
The
quality
of
life
here
is,
is,
you
know,
is
touted
in
in
surveys,
I
mean
we
were
voted,
I
think
Calgary
was
voted,
one
of
the
most
livable
cities
in
the
world
and
I
think
Edmonton
was
up
there
as
well,
so
I
think
all
of
these
measures
that
we're
taking
in
terms
of
campaigns
in
terms
of
our
immigration
programs,
in
terms
of
our
investment
attraction
activities,
will
inevitably
lead
to
these
numbers
being
skewed
in
the
right
direction
and
they
will
be
higher.
J
I
I
Ra,
which,
unfortunately
didn't
materialize
but
part
of
the
Alberta's
calling
campaign,
was
to
talk
about
our
Alberta
Advantage
immigration
programs
and
our
post-secondary,
so
I
know
that
invest
Alberta
through
the
work
that
they
do
quite
often
do
bring
this
up
as
well.
In
terms
of
the
value
proposition
for
newcomers
too,
to
have
a
life
here
in
Alberta
and
I
feature
our
out
of
like
I
mentioned
Global
and
Calgary
Economic
Development
I
mean
this
comes
up
over
and
over
again
as
well
like.
I
How
do
we
tell
the
Alberta
story,
so
it
is
just
organically
being
mixed
into
the
Alberta's
calling
strategy
by
various
different
Ministries
and
I'll,
be
more
intentional,
as
well
as
I
design
and
change,
or
modify
some
of
our
immigration
policies
to
make
sure
that
it
is
intentionally
a
part
of
that
marketing
campaign.
J
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
for
that.
I
wanted
to
ask
next.
Your
business
plan
refers
to
foreign
credential
recognition
and
you've
certainly
spoken
about
that
and
the
importance
of
that.
But
my
understanding
having
just
attended
the
skilled
trades
and
professions
Ministry,
was
that
the
fairness
for
newcomers
office
resides
in
in
that
Ministry
and
I
I.
Believe
that's
the
bulk
of
the
work
when
it
comes
to
foreign
credential
recognition,
but
I'd
be
happy
to
be
corrected.
Do
you
have
budget
money
within
your
ministry
targeted
to
foreign
credential
recognition.
I
You're
correct
that
the
fairness
for
newcomers
that
that
that
resides
within
skilled
trades
and
professions
and
the
bulk
of
that
particular
effort,
is
within
that
Ministry.
But
we
do
have
iqus,
which
we
talked
about
earlier,
that
the
5.6
million
dollar
line
item
in
the
budget,
and
so
that's
within
the
ministry.
J
More
applicants,
applicants
are
the
more
work
that
will
happen
there
perfect.
So
the
last
question
I
was
going
to
ask,
is
actually
kind
of
a
repeat
of
the
very
first
question
I
had,
which
is
what
Trend
are
you
seeing
from
the
federal
government
when
it
comes
to
their
funding
of
Settlement
Services
again
getting
back
to
the
idea
of
the
province
plane
in
the
stop?
Gap
has
what
what
are
they
focusing
on?
Have
there
been
any
changes
or
Trends
and
how
has
the
province
responded
to
to
best
hit
those
needs?
J
The
other
comment
I'll
make
just
because
this
may
be
my
my
last
opportunity
is
looking
at
the
funding
for
newcomer
and
supports.
We
talked
about
that
line
item
and
into
the
future.
You
talked
about
it
remaining
flat
and
I
will
just
say
that
I'm
disappointed
that
we're
not
seeing
an
increase
more
Investments,
more
dollars
to
go
out
to
settlement
agencies,
because
if
we
want
more
language
supports,
if
we
want
more
services
for
people
having
more
dollars
to
be
able
to
offer
would
be
good,
but
you've
already
identified
that
this
light
item
stays
flat.
J
So
information
about
the
federal
government
and
at
least
anything
about
how
Alberta
is
targeting
their
dollars
to
best
serve
the
needs
of
the
newcomer
community.
I
Well,
thank
you
for
those
questions
and
in
regards
to
what
the
federal
Trends
are
looking
like
when
I
was
like,
we
had
all
of
the
immigration
ministers.
I
And
the
comments
were
generally
that,
because
we
are
seeing
such
an
influx
of
Ukrainian
temporary
residents
and
refugees
and
Asylum
Seekers
that
the
need
for
more
settlement
and
integration
supports
was
was
very
evident.
So
that
was
something
that
was
expressed
by
almost
everybody
who
is
at
who
was
present
at
those
tables,
and
certainly
there
was
also
an
ask
for
more
support
for
Ukrainian
temporary
refugees,
who
are
seeing
some
food
security
issues
here
in
Alberta
and
I
did
raise.
I
That
and
I
had
asked
about
the
status
of
their
existing
supports,
whether
they
would
be
extended
into
the
future
and
I
do
believe.
There
will
be
some
announcements
forthcoming
in
the
future
around
that
we
do
have
seven
million
dollars
allocated
every
year
for
settlement
and
integration
supports
and
I
think
I
mean
this
is
what
we
have
in
the
budget,
but
I've
certainly
been
very
clear
that
we
have
to
assess
the
reality
of
the
situation
if
it
is
insufficient
in
the
future.
I
We
will
have
to
address
that,
because
if
we
are
wanting
people
to
be
successful,
we
have
to
support
them
at
the
outset.
We
know
that
there
is
not
only
the
moral
imperative
to
do
so,
but
there
is
a
very
clear
economic
imperative
as
well,
and
you
know
I
just
want
to
mention
that
we
also
have
additional
supports
in
the
budget.
We
have
an
additional
one
million
dollars
for
settlement
supports
for
Ukraine,
and
it's
in
recognition
of
the
fact
that
there.
J
J
B
G
Minister,
okay:
go
ahead.
Thank
you,
perfect!
Well,
thank
you,
minister.
So
much
for
being
here
tonight.
I
know.
We've
had
a
lot
of
conversations
so
far
about
the
investment
that
has
come
into
Alberta
in
the
past
three
years
and
your
ministry's
ongoing
efforts
to
attract
investment
to
our
Province,
whether
that
be
through
immigration,
whether
that
be
through,
invest,
Alberta
and,
of
course,
just
our
general
business
and
Taxation
policies
that
we
have
changed
and
implemented
the
past
few
years.
G
Attracting
investment
has
undeniably
I
think
been
a
focal
point
of
our
government's
work
and
something
that
I
would
argue,
you've
seen
tremendous
success
in
over
the
past
few
years,
whether
that's
been
big
investments
from
other
jurisdictions
and
companies
in
Canada
or
from
International
companies.
G
I
think
there's
been
no
question
as
to
whether
that's
been
a
very
serious
priority
for
our
government
and
one
that
we've
seen
a
lot
of
success
in,
but
I
do
want
to
Branch
off
of
that,
and
rather
than
talking
about
just
the
investment
focus
on
the
actual
trade
side
of
that
conversation,
because
I
don't
think
it's
been
discussed
enough
tonight.
Yet
so
I
know
when
I
was
on
the
Fair
Deal
panel
back
there,
gosh
I
think
it's
been
almost
three
years
ago.
Now.
G
One
of
the
things
that
we
had
looked
at
was
whether
or
not
Alberta
should
be
sending
representative
to
participate
directly
in
trade
deal
negotiations.
Typically
in
the
past,
we
have
let
the
federal
government
negotiate
on
our
behalf,
and
we
haven't
participated
directly,
and
there
was
significant
conversation
at
that
time
about
whether
or
not
Alberta
should
participate
directly
and
if
so,
what
that
level
of
participation
should
look
like
fast
forward
a
few
years.
I
just
want
to
highlight
your
budget.
I
Hey
thank
you.
Member
Rosen
and
I
really
do
appreciate
this
question.
It's
an
important
question
and,
as
you
mentioned,
we
have
not
focused
enough
on
this
particular
aspect
of
the
portfolio.
So
I
have
a
lot
of
information
here
and
because
it
is
so
important,
I'm
going
to
read
all
of
this,
so
that
the
public
is
aware
of
what
we're
doing
within
the
ministry.
I
So
first
of
all,
Alberta
is
globally
connected
through
15
International
free
trade
agreements
through
which
we
have
preferred
Market
access
to
51
foreign
countries
in
more
than
1.5
billion
potential
customers,
and
we
want
to
build
on
this
and
expand
our
markets
in
Asia
and
I
know.
Mla
said
that
we
need
more
offices
and
I
agree
with
you,
particularly
given
our
indo-pacific
strategy
that
the
federal
government
has
announced
and
that
we're
working
on
and
we've
got
economies
like
India
the
fifth
largest
economy
in
the
world.
I
We
only
have
one
office
there,
so
there's
there's
opportunities
right
there.
So
Tim
leads
Alberta's
engagement
in
international
trade
negotiations,
working
with
other
departments
and
stakeholders
to
identify
and
promote
provincial
interests
and
I
have
to
give
a
shout
out
to
the
department
who
have
been
at
those
Federal
tables
with
the
trade
negotiations.
They
are
most
definitely
representing
Alberta's
interests.
I
Tim
officials
attend
negotiating
rounds
and
advocate
for
Alberta,
with
federal
government
officials
to
ensure
that
as
trade
agreements
develop,
they
reflect
Alberta's
export
and
investment
goals
and
jurisdictional
interests
in
addition
to
securing
additional
Market
access
for
exports.
Alberta
also
seeks
greater
confidence
in
the
stability
and
predictability
of
other
countries,
regulations,
more
transparency
and
efficiency
as
Goods
across
borders
and
improved
ease
of
movement
for
business
professionals.
I'm
just
going
to
give
a
very
quick
example
here
as
well.
I
I
know
that
when
our
officials
were
at
the
federal
table
negotiating
with
the
UK,
we
had
some
conversations
around
really
wanting
to
promote
Alberta
beef
in
the
UK.
Now
that's
a
it's
a
tough
proposition,
but
our
officials
were
were
very
vocal
at
that
table,
and
this
is
just
one
example
of
how
Alberta
really
talks
about
about
our
value
proposition
in
this
province.
To
make
sure
that
we
are
represented
in
those
negotiations
and
Tim
will
continue
to
pursue
Alberta's
interests
in
Canada's
trade
negotiations,
including
with
the
UK
which
I
just
mentioned.
India.
I
G
Do
thank
you
for
the
answer
and
I
actually
appreciate
that
you
mentioned
our
negotiations
reflecting
our
export
goals,
because
that
is
also
something
that
I
wanted
to
talk
about.
Certainly,
we
know
that
there
are
many
exports
we
have
in
Alberta,
whether
that
is
beef
or
the
culture
products
like
you
noted
our
energy
resources
that
may
be
even
products
like
we
have
so
many
entrepreneurs
in
tourism
produce
beers
or
kombucha
I
know
really.
G
G
Page
135,
specifically
of
your
business
plan,
identifies
three
million
dollars
in
funding
over
the
next
three
years
for
the
Alberta
export
expansion
program,
specifically
to
support
Alberta
businesses
entering
strategic
new
markets
and
to
help
them
increase
their
exports
into
key
International
markets,
as
well
as
support
incoming
international
buyers
who
are
interested
in
Alberta
products
and
services.
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
can
speak
a
bit
more
to
what
the
Alberta
export
expansion
program
is
as
and
how
is
Alberta
businesses
directly
and
I'm.
I
Yes,
I'm
very
happy
to
talk
about
the
Eep
program
and
I
know
we
touched
on
that
earlier
on
in
this
evening
and
you're
right.
We
do
have
three
million
dollars
allocated
over
the
next
couple
of
the
next
three
years
to
ensure
that
we
are
supporting
this
program.
We
are
seeing
much
more
uptake
recently
than
we
did
before
and
that
they.
I
Working
and
people
are
very
appreciative
of
it,
but
just
to
give
some
more
background,
it
is
a
grant
program
that
supports
small
and
medium-sized
Enterprises
municipalities,
industry
associations,
indigenous
communities
and
economic
development
organizations
to
promote
Alberta
exports
through
outbound
international
business
travel
and
incoming
buying
Expeditions.
So,
essentially,
it
provides
funding
to
help
cover
eligible
travel
exhibition
and
trade
show
cost
for
Alberta
businesses
and
for
not
not-for-profit
organizations
targeting
foreign
markets
or
bringing
potential
buyers
to
Alberta
and
I
did
share
some
testimonials
early
on
and
I
know.
I
We
have
some
more
testimonials
about
the
CE
program
and
how
it's
benefited
companies
here.
There
is
a
similar
program
that
does
exist
at
the
national
level
level
and
that's
the
can
export
program.
But
we
found
that
a
lot
of
our
applicants
here
in
Alberta
were
unable
to
meet
the
eligibility
requirements
and
the
e-program
is
actually
much
more
accessible
and
just
to
share
some
stats.
I
Since
reopening
in
June
of
2022,
we
had
posted
during
covet
for
obvious
reasons:
Eep
has
approved
grants
to
94
unique
organizations,
including
about
80
smes,
so
that
is
the
e-program
and
in
terms
of
what
else
we're
doing,
we
obviously
have.
We
have
concierge
services
that
help
with
that
investment
attraction.
But
often
in
those
conversations
there
are
conversations
around
trade
as
well,
so
just
opening
those
doors
and
having
those
conversations
and
making
those
connections
is
also
part
of
the
job
of
the
department,
as
well
as
the
invest
Alberta.
G
And
I've
got
to
have
one
follow-up
question
to
that
and
I'm
just
actually
curious
on
this
one.
How
long
has
the
eat
program
been
in
existence?
So
you
mentioned
that
it
was
established
to
fill
a
bit
of
a
gap
that
existed
between
the
federal
program
and
what
Alberta
producers
needed
to
be
to
be
eligible,
so
I'm
just
curious
what
year
this
program
was
brought
in
or
how
long
it's
been
in
existence.
Well,.
I
It
was,
it
was
2016
and
the
former
minister
is
in
this
room
right
now
and
he
introduced
that
program
at
that
time
and
was
definitely
under
subscribed.
These
things
take
time
to
you,
know,
develop,
and
you
know
I
will
use
the
same
analogy
with
our
Crown
Corporation.
Sometimes
it
takes
some
time
to
hit
your
stride,
and
this
was
one
of
those
programs
and
that's
why
we
have
increased
funding
for
it
and
we're
going
to
monitor
it
as
time
goes
by
and
if
it.
B
K
So
next
to
my
questions
are.
K
And
the
budget
for
2023
to
324.
So
yes,
you
know
it
can
be
interpreted
many
different
ways.
So
one
way
it
looks
like
and
down
from
350
000
350
59.2
million
the
other.
It
says
like
gracious,
more.
K
But
when
I
see
the
Ministries
business
plan
on
this
page,
137.
K
So
my
question
to
you,
minister,
is
how
much
of
this
9.8
million
that
we
spent
this
in
2023
2024
for
ethnocultural
communities
and
how
much
is
for
next
year
and
the.
G
I
I
I
Fluidity
in
that
amount
a
bit
agile
Nimble,
particularly
as
we
see
what
happens
with
Indian,
temporary
residents
and
refugees
and
Asylum
Seekers.
So
with
that
that
is
I,
think
it's
a
historical
amount
for
multiculturalism
initiatives
within
the
government
of
Alberta,
so
right
and
of
course,
I
can't
forget
the
premier's
Council
on
multiculturalism.
This
was
part
of
my
mandate
letter
as
well.
I
think
it
is
a
brilliant
idea.
I
I've
mentioned
it
several
times
already
that
the
face
of
Alberta
is
changing
and
it's
changing
rapidly
and
it's
important
to
have
a
council
together
comprised
of
community
leaders
and
influencers
from
Multicultural
communities
who
can
provide
advice
to
to
myself
by
Foster
and
to
the
premier
on
the
emerging
priority.
So
there
is
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
the
budget
for
the
next
three
years.
For
for
the
council,.
K
Thank
you,
sir.
So
as
I
understand
from
your
answers
that
four
million
out
of
that
nine
million
dollars,
9.2
million
dollars
on
the
page
217,
is
allocated
to
ethnicultural
communities.
K
So
the
initiative
second
initiative
on
page
under
37
I
believe
yeah.
The
business
plan
also
states
that
eight
point
three
million
dollars
funding
for
the
to
address
the
needs
of
the
Ukrainian
universities
for
the
next
three
years,
and
my
question
is
actually
similar
around
this,
like
how
much
of
that
9
million
is
going
to
be
spent
on
needs
to
address
the
needs
of
Japan
universities.
This
year.
I
So
that
would
be
three
million
dollars
to
support
the
Ukrainian
evacuees
and
there
is
an
additional
1.3
million
dollars
to
implement
recommendations
from
their
premier's
task
force.
K
K
For
your
questions
that
so
8
million
out
of
9.2
million
for
next
three
years
will
be
invested
this
year.
This
year's
budget,
sorry.
K
I
Can
I
just
for
clarity,
so
I
I
know
that
our
budget
for
2023
24
is
9.2
million
and
have
outlined
the.
I
Yeah
I'll
just
break
that
down
again,
so
we
have
3
million
for
support
for
Ukrainian
evacuees
to
3
million,
an
additional
1.3
million
for
support
for
Ukrainian
a
temporary
residence
as
well.
Four
million
for
ethnocultural
organizations,
a
hundred
thousand
for
the
premier's
Council
on
multiculturalism
and
500
000
for
the
multiculturalism
in
and
all
of
those
numbers
should
add
up
to
9.2
million.
I
K
And
looking
at
you
know,
I
would
just
like
to
take
better
of
the
grants.
Thank
you
for
your
answer
for
sure
I'm
just
trying
to
see
like
how
we
have
been.
Actually
it
was
kind
of
tricky.
K
Efficient
was
given
the
lot
of
change
of
all
and,
according
to
the
records,
I
I
have
been
over
like
public
records.
K
Over
the
last
four
years,
multiculturalism
and
enthusiasm
grants
have
decreased
basically
over
five
million
dollars
so
comparing
to
from
2018
to
what
we
have
spent
historically
in
recent
four
years.
K
So
you
think
this
four
million
dollars
Grant
in
this
year
will
make
up
for
the
momentum.
These
are
really
struggling
and
complaining.
I
Yeah,
yes,
you're
right,
I
would
agree.
There's
there's
a
lot
of
struggle.
There's
a
lot
of
distress.
There
are
mental
health
issues
and
I
I
know
that
when
the
Ministries
were
changed,
the
funding
that
came
from
the
multiculturalism
Ministry
at
that
time
was
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
when
it
was
transferred
to
labor
and
immigration
that
way
back
when
it
was
a
status
of
women,
culture
and
Multicultural
cultural.
B
Thank
you
Minister
at
this
point,
I
would
like
to
now
move
to
government
caucus
as
there
is
no
independent
members
present
and
I
would
like
to
you
know,
remember
Roswell.
Are
you
wanting
to
go
back
and
forth
with.
A
C
Thank
you,
yeah
I,
just
wanted
to.
You
did
talk
about
this
a
bit
earlier,
but
on
page
135
of
the
trade
and
immigration
multiplication,
multiculturalism
business
plan,
key
objective
number
1.2
talks
about
the
ministry's
role
in
promoting
trade
investment
and
attractions
has
engaging
with
stakeholders,
including
businesses
and
other
governments,
and
then
partner
Ministries,
invest
Alberta
Corporation
and
it
all
sounds.
It
sounds
like
that
could
get
fairly
complex
environment
to
be
working,
especially
when
executive
council
is
responsible
for
the
international
offices.
C
You
spoke
about
that
a
little
bit
once
already
so
I
just
want
to.
If
you
could
just
how
the
ministry
is
working
with
the
executive,
Council
and
the
international
office
Network
partner,
Ministries
and
invest
Alberta
support
the
province's
international
trade
promotion
and
investment
traction.
So
I,
don't
know
if
you've
got
to
explain
all
of
it,
how
it
all
works
together.
There
might
have
been
parts
to
it.
So
I.
A
C
Wanted
to
give
you
a
chance
to
explain
how
you
put
all
those
things
together
and
make
it
work.
I
Thank
you,
member
Roswell
and
you're
correct
that
it
the
very
complex
and
to
work
in,
and
that's
where
trust
and
collaboration
is
essential
and
certainly
changes
were
made
on.
The
international
officers
are
within
the
executive
Council.
As
you
had
pointed
out,
and
then,
of
course
we
have
our
Crown
Corporation,
that's
Alberta
and
our
own
Department
that
is
very
competent
and
capable
and
has
a
track
record
of
you
know:
investment
and
trade
promotion.
So
it's
incumbent,
we
all
have
to
work
together.
I
We
are
a
team,
Alberta
and,
and
so
I
can
tell
you
that
Tim
officials
and
invest
Alberta
collaborate
with
the
Alberta
International
offices
and
there
have
been
a
lot
of
changes
and
there
will
be
more
changes
in
these
International
offices
in
the
future.
I've
already
alluded
to
the
indo-pacific
strategy
and
the
need
for
having
more
offices
in
in
certain
countries,
but
all
of
us
do
collaborate
to
the
best
of
our
abilities
to
develop
targeted
programs
for
outgoing
missions
and
for
a
priority
incoming
foreign
delegations.
I'll.
I
Just
give
you
a
quick
example:
we
had
a
I
had
a
trade
mission
to
Korea
South
Korea
just
recently,
and
you
know
it
required
the
interaction
of
the
Department
of
invest
Alberta
and
our
Alberta
International
offices
and
everybody
working
together
resulted
in.
You
know
a
great
amount
of
support
for
both
myself
and
Minister
Jean
in
terms
of
Market
intelligence
in
terms
of
cultural
nuances
that
we
needed
to
be
aware
of
and
in
terms
of
understanding
the
organizations
that
we
were
meeting
with
their
market
cap,
their
their
financial
statements,
all
of
those
kinds
of
things.
I
So
this
is
just
a
very
concrete
example
of
how
all
of
these
elements
work
together.
We
also
engage
regularly
with
Alberta
businesses
and
economic
development
agencies
and
with
other
government
organizations
like
Global
Affairs
Canada,
to
ensure
that
there
is
consistent
and
cl
and
a
collaborative
approach
to
promoting
Alberta
and
its
trade
and
investment
interests,
so
Global
Affairs
Canada,
so
the
federal
government,
when
we
were
in
South
Korea,
they
also
had
a
representative
join
us
at
one
of
our
meetings,
and
that
was
quite
interesting.
I
I
We
also
work
with
Partners
to
plan
and
execute
missions
to
targeted
foreign
markets,
to
support
export
growth
and
diversification
for
Alberta
companies,
and
what
these
missions
do
is
that
they
demonstrate
the
importance
that
the
province
places
on
doing
business
with
priority
markets
I
mean
we
have
to
have
boots
on
the
ground.
I
hear
this
all
the
time
everywhere.
I
go
and
I
know
this
from
my
own
business
development
background
that
you
have
to
you
have
to
be
there
in
these
jurisdictions.
You
have
to
have
those
face-to-face
conversations.
I
You
have
to
really
invest
in
that
relationship,
building
to
create
that
level
of
trust
and
I
know.
Emily
Walker
you
had
mentioned
about
rank
status
and
all
those
other
items,
and
so
having
government
officials
go
and
representatives
of
governments
to
be
in
these
jurisdictions
is
tremendously
helpful.
So
this
is
just
a
little
bit
of
a
snapshot
about
how
we
all
work
together
to
promote
in.
I
We
for
this
particular
trip.
We
didn't
really
have
any
businesses
coming
with
us
and
there
were
some
businesses
there
who
were
quite
interested,
but
that,
yes,
we
do
many
missions
where
Alberta
based
businesses
are
invited
to
join
at
their
own
expense,
not
through
a
taxpayer
dollars.
I
Let
me
clarify
that
and
it's
an
opportunity
for
them
to
explore
foreign
markets
as
well-
and
you
know
I
also
wanted
to
mention,
because
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
mention
this
at
all
this
evening,
that
we
are
working
very
closely
with
the
Canada
West
Foundation
to
conduct,
while
we've
recently
conducted
a
two
round
tables
with
Calgary
and
Edmonton
businesses
to
talk
about
the
indo-pacific
trade
strategy
and
we're
going
to
be
working
even
more
closely
with
them.
As
we
talk
about
what
our
Western
provinces
to
be.
I
Well,
it's
complex,
it
works
and
it
doesn't
work
and
you
just
try
to
make
it
better,
but
right
now
I've,
given
you
a
snapshot
of
a
specific
mission
that
I
was
on
and
it
was
very
successful.
Okay.
C
Well
done,
thank
you
very
much,
I'd
like
to
draw
your
attention
to
page
138
of
the
business
plan
for
trading
immigration,
multiculturalism
and
I
just
want
to
ask
you
a
few
questions
there.
Let's
get
some
clarification
on
certain
line
items
so
I
see.
There's
a
revenue
called
other
Revenue
678
thousand
dollars.
I
just
wondered
what
the
revenue
is
for
and
what
programs
are
delivered
as
a
result
of
that
Revenue.
I
To
raise
money
from
Alberta
industry
to
utilize
on
outbound
trade
missions,
so
the
funds
raised
from
industry
contributions
for
trade
missions
covers
various
costs,
such
as
the
construction
of
Alberta
space
at
a
trade,
show
hiring
service
providers
in
markets
providers
like
Consultants
legal
advisory
Consultants
to
help
Alberta
companies
and
to
offset
the
costs
of
food
or
beverages
or
room
rentals
things
like
that
for
company
briefing
sessions.
The
amount
in
the
business
plan
reflects
a
projected
matching
amount
of
funds
that
are
raised
from
industry.
I
I
do
want
to
end
off
by
saying
that
Alberta
industry
has
signaled
a
strong
commitment
to
be
a
part
of
outbound
trade
missions,
and
we
were
just
talking
about
that.
Businesses
are
very
much
interested
and
since
October
of
2022,
which
was
not
too
100,
Alberta
companies
have
participated
in
person
on
six
alberta-led
trade.
International
trade
missions.
C
There's
another
one:
revenue
from
the
government
of
Canada
of
1.6
million
dollars
and
I.
Just
wonder
what
that
revenue
is
for
in
the
program's
delivered.
As
a
result
of
that.
I
So
that
1.6
is
a
Workforce
Development
agreement
and
it's
funding
that
comes
from
the
federal
government
and
is
earmarked
for
some
of
these
settlement
and
immigration
programs
that
we
were
talking
about
earlier,
very
important
funds
and
they
go
to
organizations
like
Calgary,
Catholic,
Immigration,
Services
Center
for
newcomers,
and
they
are
designed
to
ensure
that
you
know
newcomers
get
language
supports
and
other
settlements.
C
Very
good
and
the
last
one
is
revenue
for
premiums,
license
fees
and
licenses,
and
that
was
8.2
million
dollars.
So
if
you
just
wanted
to
expand
on
that,
programs
are
delivered
by
the
fees
and
and
what
does
the
you
know
where
you
know
if
you
just
expand
on
that
part
of
it.
I
Sure
so
for
that,
from
that
8.25
million
225
pardon
me
a
million
dollars
in
revenues,
3.9
million
are
relates
to
fees
that
charge
by
the
Alberta
Advantage
immigration
program,
4.3,
3
million
it
relates
to
fees
collected
by
the
international
qualification
assessment
service
or
icos,
is
the
acronym
for
it,
and
iqos
helps
to
get
recognition
for
Education
and
Training
themed
outside
of
Canada.
B
K
K
My
questions
around
this
are
there
meeting
scheduled
for
this
year
or
did
the
2022
meetings
occur
or
and
if
there
were
meetings
in
2022,
do
we
have
a
minute
for
those
meetings?
The
recommendations
from
the
United
Council
came
out
in
March
of
2021,
a
candy
Minister
share
what
the
council
has
been
working
on
since
then.
K
Does
the
council
have
any
specific
objectives?
What
were
their
performance
indicators
for
2022
and
is
there
any
changes
this
year?
So
what
is
the
status
of
the
recommendations
from
the
console?
How
many
of
them
have
been
completed
completely
implemented,
which
ones
are
yet
to
be
implemented
and
Wealthy
Minister
will
be
prioritizing
them
in
this
budget?.
I
I
Four
times
that's
part
of
their
mandate
need,
and
they
may
have.
We
do
have
men
for
all
those
meetings.
Meetings
very
fortunate
to
be
able
to
attend
one
of
their
after
being
trained.
Foreign
and
I
know
that
there
are
recommendations
that
were
issued
some
time
ago
and
I
know
that
in
the
former
minister.
I
Forward
a
in
July
of
2020
th
year,
so
some
of
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
since
then,
because
I
know
you're
asking
like
what
has
been
implemented
and
what
hasn't
been,
but
some
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
since
that
point
is
a
stakeholder
engagement,
because
we
are
wanting
to
design
anti-racism
legislation
that
that
focus
on
some
of
those
recommendations.
It's
you
can't
do
all
of
them.
That's
just
a
reality
as
much
as
we
might
want
to.
I
So
part
of
the
work
that
we
did
and
the
council
was
involved
in
this
work
as
well,
is
to
have
stakeholder
engagement
sessions
across
the
province.
So
we
had
some
in
Fort,
McMurray
and
Grand
Prairie
in
in
Red
Deer
in
in
Medicine
Hat,
and
the
idea
was
to
Garner
more
feedback
in
terms
of
what
we
need
to
see
in
the
legislation.
So
this
work
complements
the
work
of
the
council
and
it's
necessary
because,
whenever
you
put
forward
any
legislation,
as
we
all
know,
you
have
to
have
that
element
of
stakeholder
engagement.
I
So
that's
what
we
were
doing
and
we
were
very.
We
also
included
indigenous
communities
as
well
within
that
engagement.
So
that
is
the
status
of
where
we're
at
in
terms
of
trying
to
actualize
some
of
these
recommendations
in
the.
K
A
K
I
Drastically
since
last
year,
with
the
Russian
invasion
of
Ukraine,
like
I,
mentioned
it
before,
there's
an
additional
gravitas
now
to
all
the
work
that
we
do,
and
we
have
a
welcome,
so
many
temporary
residents
into
the
province
worthwhile
to
engage
and
re-engage
to
understand
what
the
additional
stresses
are
to
different
cultural
communities.
We've
also
welcomed
so
many
refugees
from.
I
K
Not
spending
a
lot
of
time
on
this
question,
I
understand
that
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
time,
actually
looking
into
multiculturalism
portfolio,
so
I
understand
correctly.
You
can
correct
me
if
I'm.
A
K
I
Yes,
that's
correct
and
the
engagement
grants
were
announced
last
year
and
I
think
all
of
the
organizations
have
actually
taken
that
part
of
funding.
It
was
small
funds
to
actually
have
some
Community
engagement
sessions
that
allowed
them
to
talk
about.
You
know
anti-racism
policies
and
other
issues
affecting
their
communities,
and
then
we
have
the
multiculturalism
and
anti-racism
grants
that
are
up
to
a
maximum
of
thirty
thousand
dollars
and
we
are
just
finalizing
some
of
those
Grant
applications
right
now.
K
K
K
Nor
you
can
just
you
know
later
on
in
writing,
so
give
through
the
anterior
program
and
multiculturalism
anti-racism
Grant
programs,
and
how
many
application
did
the
ministry
receive
for
the
first
intake
and
what
is
the
average
amount
of
money
that
a
successful
grad
was
given?
How
did
the
ministry
advertise
and
promote
the
scratch?
K
How
was
the
community
responded
to
this
Grant,
and
does
the
minister
think
that
this
is
enough
to
support
initiatives
so
well,
there
is
no
expansion
of
this
program
with
the
increase
in
this
budget
assigned
to
multiculturalism.
So
I
would
like
to
hear
from
the
minister,
but
if
there
is
a
time,
I
am
very
concerning
question
around
you
already
touched
old
enough
I'll
be
happy
to
ask
a
question
on
that.
So.
I
I
Four
million
dollars
for
Grants
or
for
programming
for
ethnocultural
communities
is
something
that
the
government
of
Alberta
has
never
provided
before
in
terms
of
the
anti-racism
grant.
That
was
a
one-time,
Grant,
the
small
amounts
and
we
announced
them
last
year
and
the
organizations
have
already
undertaken
their
engagement
sessions
and
I
think
they
were
around
60
grants
that
were
approved
and
funded,
and
now
we
have
the
multiculturalism
and
anti-racism
grants.
I
The
question
was
like:
how
did
we
advertise
them?
How
did
we
talk
about
them?
Well,
everything
is
on
our
website,
but
I
spread
the
word
through
my
own
multiculturalism.
I
Roundtable
engagement
I
did
about
six
or
seven
with
the
with
a
fit
Community
with
the
Hindu
Community,
with
the
Filipino
Community,
with
the
black
community
and
many
more
and
at
every
table,
I
informed
them
that
these
grants
were
available
and
that
the
deadline,
then
date
so
we've
had
really
good
uptake
on
that
and
we've
had
I
think
we
have
211
applications
that
were
submitted
and
quite
a
few
from
Edmonton
I
was
very
deliberate
about
making
sure
I
spoke
to
community
leaders
in
Edmonton
so
that
they
knew
because
I
just
wasn't
sure
how
else
they
were
going
to
find
out,
but
sometimes
we're
all
guilty
of
this
all
elected
representatives
that
there
are
lots
of
Grant
offerings
out
there
at
times,
and
we
don't
inform
our
constituents
so
I'll
pause
there,
because.
K
4
million
dollar
this
year
has
been
actually
kept
for
those
two
grounds.
B
D
The
few
minutes
we
have
left,
if
that's
okay,
so
we
had
through
you,
chair
to
the
minister
I
just
wanted
to
pick
up
where
the
minister
left
off
with
MLA
Roswell
with
respect
to
the
international
qualifications
assessment
service.
D
So
I
guess
I
have
two
questions.
How
does
your
ministry
work
with
other
Ministries
to
address
Alberta's
labor
market
gaps,
and
you
have
a
very
short
time
to
answer
that
and
then
how
does
the
international
qualifications
assessment
service
fit
into
this
work?
So
just
want
to
give
the
minister
an
opportunity
to
fill
that
in.
I
That
may
be
needed
in
conjunction
with
category
based
elections
for
the
industry
through
Express
entry,
which
are
for
higher
skilled
positions
in
the
industry
and
I
know
that
member
Rosen
is
very
passionate
about
this
particular
work
that
we're
doing
and
and
thank
you
for
all
your
advocacy
and
your
hard
work
on
this
Additionally.
The
department
in
health
are
collaborating
on
the
design
of
a
dedicated
pathway
for
select
health
professionals
and
I
really
hope
to
have
something
that
I
can
announce
in
the
coming
weeks.
On
this
particular
stream.
I
The
international
qualification
assessment
service
or
icos
supports
Fair
recognition
of
international
educational
credentials
by
issuing
comparative
statements
to
albertan
Canadian
education
standards.
So,
for
any
newcomer,
a
comparison
of
credentials
earned
outside
of
Canada
is
the
first
step
to
employment
or
licensure.
I
Iqos
assessments
are
used
by
regulatory
bodies,
educational
institutions
and
employers
and
indirectly
support
all
Ministries
who
are
striving
to
fill
labor
gaps
now
specific
quickly.
Icloth
works
with
the
ministry
of
seniors
community
and
Social
Services
to
provide
assessments
at
no
cost
to
facilitate
entry
into
the
workforce
and
address
labor
market
Gap.
So
that
is
how
icosa
fits
into
the
work.
D
Excellent,
thank
you
Minister
time
left
how
to
express
my
gratitude
through
the
chair
to
the
minister
for
your
work
on
this
file.
I
know
that
there
was
a
lot
of
change
in
government
in
the
fall
and
new,
Ministries
and
I
think
the
members
opposite
have
talked
about
some
of
the
shifts
and
the
ways
that
the
Ministries
have
been
split
up
and
so
I
just
really
wanted
to
commend
the
minister
for
her
work
on
behalf
of
all
albertans
and
certainly
on
behalf
of
communities
that
are
ethnic
minorities.
D
I
Well,
thank
you,
member,
a
large.
You
might
just
make
me
cry
a
little
bit.
Thank
you
for
your
comments
like
this
has
definitely
been
the
honor
of
a
lifetime
to
be
able
to
serve
and
particularly
to
be
able
to
serve
during
the
pandemic
when
we
saw
such
incredible
vulnerability
in
so
many
communities
across
the
province.
I
Natural
communities,
which
is
why
I,
was
very
grateful
when
Premier
Smith
asked
me
to
take
on
this
ministry
because
having
the
multiculturalism
portfolio
meant
that
I
could
further
some
of
those
priorities
that
really
needed
to
be
furthered
and
which
is
why
I
was
really
pushing
back
on
member
deals.
Comments
around
like
there's
been
cuts
to
the
multiculturalism
file
that
there
have
not
been.
I
They
have
we've
enhanced
the
expenditure
and
the
programming
that
will
will
go
to
ethnocultural
communities
because
of
all
the
reasons
that
I
had
mentioned
earlier,
because
our
immigration
numbers
are
going
to
go
up.
Our
growth
in
our
country
and
province
is
going
to
come
through
immigration,
Now's,
the
Time
Now's,
the
Time,
to
make
sure
that
multiculturalism
is
no
longer
just
an
aspirational
framework
that
it's
actually
something
that
is
a
reality
and
rooted
in
acceptance
and
celebration,
and
not
just
tolerance.
But
beyond
that.
I
So
it's
been
quite
the
honor
for
me
to
be
able
to
build
on
the
work
that
I
did
in
community
and
social
services
and
actually
in
transportation
too.
Some
of
my
driving
back
to
work
grants
were
definitely
targeted
towards
newcomer
populations.
So
I
worked
with
some
of
the
organizations
that
served
particularly
women
from
newcomer
communities
to
make
sure
that
they
had
access
to
these
funds
that
were
traditionally
offered
to
people
to
men
because
they're
a
male-dominated
Industries.
I
B
Thank
you.
I
must
advise
the
committee
that
the
time
allotted
for
consideration
of
the
ministry's
estimates
has
concluded
I'd
like
to
remind
committee
members
that
we
are
scheduled
to
meet
tomorrow,
Wednesday
March
15
2023
at
3
30
pm
to
consider
the
estimates
of
the
ministry
of
Forestry
parks
and
tourism.
Thank
you.
Everyone
and
this
meeting
is
adjourned.