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B
B
B
Nice
got
up
to
this
point.
I
apologize
but
48's
with
aea
map
with
hr.
A
We
have
president
bellamy
member
lessons.
Remember
jacobs
and
ashley
lawley
is
also
online.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
I
do
anticipate
that
we're
not
going
to
finish
the
agenda
today,
because
there
are
a
couple
of.
B
First
thing
on
the
list
is
the
board
monthly
time
use
report?
If
you
look
at
it,
it
is
for
a
period
of
time
where
we
have
very
few
meetings
in
this
kind
of
crazy,
mostly
zeros,
unless
someone
has
a
need
to
review
that
yes
keep
it
there
and
then.
The
second
item
is
the
board
policy
reviews
section,
0,
2020,.
D
Asking
people
to
read
in
advance,
rather
than
taking
time
in
the
meeting
to
sit
and
read,
does
anyone
have
any
answers
that
they
want
to
bring
up.
D
Not
hearing
anything,
we
will
move
ahead
with
the
reminder
that
people
can
bring
things
up
at
any
time
on
any
of
these
sections.
Yes,
member
lessons,
member
lessons,
yeah!
Thank
you.
I
don't
know
how
how
you
want
to
approach
this,
but
I
was
struck
that
the
in
in
board
policy
zero
zero,
zero,
zero.
D
It
defines
a
goal
as
not
concerned
with
a
particular
achievement
within
a
specified
time
period,
which
really
seems
antithetical
to
the
concept
of
having
board
goals,
and
I
just
wonder
if
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
reconciled
in
some
way,
that's
more
of
like
a
an
observation
than
a
statement
that
we
need
to
edit
it.
But
it's
a
difference.
B
Those
aspirational
goals.
Do
you
want
to
be
a
little
more
specific
on
which
one
you're
talking
about.
D
D
D
Yeah,
exactly
I
mean
is
that
is
that
in
conflict
with
the
fact
that
we
have
these
adopted
board
goals
which
are
specific
and
measurable
and
actionable
and
defined
by
time.
E
I
think
what
we're
referring
to
is
what
we're
calling
goals
and
guardrails
is
is
found
under
the
objective
definition,
where
it
talks
about
a
specific
accomplishment.
That's
to
be
achieved,
it's
to
be
measured,
so
we
call
them
smart
goals,
but
they're
in
this
definition
that
asb
provided
for
all
the
districts
in
the
sample
language.
Those
would
be
in
their
terminology
objectives.
So
we
we're
saying
smart
goals
are
the
same
objectives
in
this
definition.
D
Right-
and
I
understood
that
and
actually
a
second,
a
second
point
that
I
thought
about
was
that
we
should
rename
ford,
consider
renaming
board
policy
0210
as
objectives
for
student
learning
rather
than
those.
D
So
I
guess
just
the
whole
goal
thing
kind
of
through
my
through
my
reading
of
these
first
policies,
because
I
also
was
thinking
that-
and
I
know
we
have
bigger
fish
to
fry
in
board
policy:
zero:
two:
zero:
zero:
you
know
the
school
board
shall
adopt
written
goals
for
the
school
district
and
I
thought
well.
We
have
goals
and
guardrails
do
we
want
to
talk
about
those
goals,
goals
and
guard
rails?
D
Here
you
know
the
development
and
adoption
of
the
budget
that
should
be
consistent
with
goals
and
guard
rails,
so
we
may
not
actually
want
to
blow
through
these,
but
perhaps
wordsmith
them.
We
could
table
that
for
today
and
I
could
bring
some
suggestions
for
next
time
or
we
could
muck
through
them
right
now,
if
other
people
think
that's
valuable,
given
the
fact
that
we
have
goals
and
guardrails.
D
B
It
wouldn't
make
sense,
but
I
also
think
it
would
be
wonderful
not
to
try
to
fix
that
in
this
meeting
right.
It
really
is
the
kind
of
thing
where
we're
one
or
more
people.
We
have
to
sit
down
with
a
cup
of
coffee
a
lot
of
time
and
and
look
at
a
lot
of
different
parts
and-
and
it
may
mean
actually
voting
to
change
the
wording
on
some
different
areas
in
order
to
make
it
a
line.
F
Yes,
mr
chair,
so
just
that
as
a
backdrop,
so
kelly
is
a
member
of
lessons
is
absolutely
correct.
F
One
of
the
things
that
we,
this
is
the
first
time
we've
had
to
review
this,
this
body
of
policies,
and
probably
I
know
I
saw
it
at
least
once
before
so
maybe
maybe
two
years
and
in
that
two
years
is
when
we
moved
to
a
framework
of
goals
and
guardrails
for
the
district.
So
our
we
have
to
catch
up
our
policies,
and
so
it
so-
and
I
agree
with
member
with
the
chair
that
we
need
we
can
bring
something
back.
F
I
think
he
prefaced
that
by
saying
we're
not
going
to
finish
today,
but
I
do
think
that
zero
zero
zero
two
zero
two
one.
Oh
those
policies,
really
we
need
to
look
at
those
in
light
of
the
direction
that
the
board
changed
two
years
ago,
we're
just
so
this
policy.
Doesn't
re
doesn't
adequately
adequately
reflect
that,
so
it
does
require
some
work.
I'd
be
willing
to
work
with.
Remember
jacobs,
or
I
mean
I
remember
lessons
on
on
on
refining.
F
D
I
took
a
crack
at
it
earlier
this
morning.
Remember
because
president
bellamy
and
I'd
be
happy
to
work
with
you
on
this
and
we
could
bring
it
bring
it
before
government
before
governance
next
time.
B
Yeah,
I'm
going
to
say
it's,
not.
I've
watched
people
try
to
fix
things
like
this
in
meetings
and
it's
do
horrific
because
it
does
mean
a
lot
of
reading
and
a
lot
of
words
so
yeah
like
I
said
we
can
address
this
any
time.
It's
just
that
we
we
do
go
through
in
an
orderly
fashion
to
make
sure.
C
We
take
a
look
at
warding
every
so
often
so
I
would
welcome
them
to
put
on
the
agenda
for
later
at
another
meeting
and
after
people
considered
some
specific
changes
to
make
it
all
match
up,
we
can
debate
those
in
the
sponsor
just
letting
you
know
that
member
higgins
and
member
donnelly
are
now
online.
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
F
Or
hearing
hearing
of
voices
move
to
agenda
item
three
the
land
acknowledgement
resolution,
and
did
anyone
want
to
speak
about
that?
So
this
one
I
I
will
mr
chair
and
member
jacobs.
We
are
the
proposal
proposers
of
this
resolution.
F
As
you
can
see
from
the
very
top
of
the
page,
we
started
working
on
this
back
in
march,
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
to
provide
a
a
systemic
shift
in
the
way
that
we
use
unders
and
understand
land
acknowledgement.
So,
prior
to
the
retirement
of
miss
brown,
we
we
had
several
meetings.
F
The
last
meeting
we
had
member
jacobs
and
I
had
was
with
the
native
advisory
committee,
and
that
committee
gave
us
some
excellent
feedback
in
terms
of
how
how
we,
how
we,
how
how
they
see
us
working
together
to
come
up
with
not
just
education
around
but
collaborative
use
of
land
acknowledgements.
F
It
is
to
add,
just
as
it
says,
to
to
honor
and
recognize
the
traditional
lands
of
the
denial
of
people,
and
so,
if
you,
if
you
can
scroll
down
to
the
very
so
there
there
are
lots
of
were
as
is
in
here-
and
I
want.
I
really
want
members
to
take
time
and
read
this
the
the
note.
The
references
that
you
see
there
were
in
were
added
by
the
committee,
the
were
as
is,
or
have
been
also
edited
by
them.
F
These
are
remember
jacobs
and
I,
the
cross
referencing
of
of
the
whereases,
are
in
the
footnotes
below
and
if
you
go
down
to
where
the
the
I
want
to
start
with
the
the
resolution,
the
v
it's
still
resolved.
So
if
you
can
scroll
down
just
a
little
bit
more.
F
All
the
way
to
all
the
way,
yeah
right
here,
so
this
part
here
is
the
collaborative
part
that
we,
the
starting
with
the
the
anchorage
school
board,
resolves
that,
as
of
the
date
of
approval
of
this
resolution,
that
all
anchor
school
district
schools
and
programs
will
honor,
acknowledge
and
respect
the
unseated
denial
lands
during
public
gatherings
and
will
be
expected
to
use
a
land
acknowledgement
at
all
gatherings
open
to
the
public,
including,
but
not
limited
to
the
start
of
school
weeks.
Athletic
competitions
and
intramural
events.
F
This
is
collaborative
language
from
the
nac
and
member
jacobson
myself,
and
it
will
on
to-
and
I
know
that
you
guys
haven't
seen
this
and
so.
But
I
do
want
you
to
understand
the
impact
of
the
resolution
and
it
all
it
further
goes
on
to
having
a
full
land
acknowledgement
and
what
that
means
and
having
an
abbreviated
land
acknowledgement,
and
the
most
important
part
is
that,
therefore,
that
last
paragraph,
the
anchorage
school
board
will
commission
district
policy
that
promotes
the
necessary
collaboration
between
the
acclutina
tribe
and
the
anchorage
school
district.
F
In
writing
and
maintaining
a
living
land
acknowledgement
statement
that
expresses
shared
collective
values.
Will
encourage
the
professional
development
and
public
resources
to
teach
mindfulness
with
land
acknowledgements
and
will
ensure
required
protocol
for
when
and
why
to
issue
land
acknowledgements
at
appropriate
school
ceremonies
and
events.
F
So
during
this
process
we
realized
that
the
people
I
mean,
I
I
I
still
go
back
to
what
kind
of
drives.
What
I
do
is
nothing
for
us
without
us.
So
this
was
a
very
important
piece
from
the
native
advisory
committee
and
if
you
go
down
a
little
bit
more
to
the
bottom,
you
will
see
some
more
resources
and
references,
and
so
today
is
to
let
the
committee,
I
don't
know
we
need
to
do.
We
want
to
answer
whatever
questions
you
may
have.
F
The
work
is
not
done,
we're
not
ready
to
submit
it
to
be.
I
don't
think
we
are,
but
I'll
I'll
wait
until,
like
we
hear
from
member
jacobs,
but
in
doing
and
trying
to
do
this
great
thing,
we
need
to
do
it
the
way
that
that
is
most
meaningful
to
the
the
end
to
all
of
us,
but
especially
to
the
indigenous
elders
among
us
that
will
have
that
background
knowledge,
and
so
that
is
the
intent.
That
is
the
purpose
and
member
jacobs.
Did
you
want
to
add
anything.
G
I
was
one
of
the
first
gatherings
I
attended
as
a
board
member
involved
students
kind
of
explaining
their
experiences
with
an
asd
and
multiple
alaska
native
youth,
expressed
in
varying
ways
feeling
like
outsiders
inside
their
own
school
building,
and
it
was
heartbreaking,
and
so
I
think
that
the
for,
for
me,
part
of
the
my
support
of
this
measure
is
to
begin
to
address
that
this
doesn't
pretend
to
solve
the
problem
of
making
sure
that
all
students
feel
welcome
in
every
school
building.
G
G
I
just
don't
see
a
downside
to
this
in
terms
of
the
ask
of
the
committee
today,
president
bellamy
and
I
you
likely
could
get
a
slightly
modified
substitute
version.
I
think
it's
reasonable
and
I'll
defer
to
president
obama
if
she
feels
differently,
but
if
we
could
get
a
the
approval
of
the
committee
to
you
know
greenlight
this
for
placement
on
a
future
agenda
of
a
regular
meeting
of
the
full
board.
G
I
think
that
would
be
a
my
ask
and
then
president
bellamy
and
I
can
go
through
kind
of
the
work
that
we've
done
thus
far
and
you
know
present
that
to
the
full
board
once
it's
time.
B
F
Well,
we,
this
would
not
be
the
exact
document,
because
we
would
take
out
the
footnotes
there's
stuff
in
here
that
unless
the
committee
wants
to
keep
those
items
in,
I
mean
it's
good
stuff
and
it
because
it
references
it
just
depends
on
how
I'm
not
against
it
moving
forward.
I
don't
I
wouldn't
change
any
whereases.
I
wouldn't
change
any
of
their
force,
but
in
turn,
because
it's
the
first
time
people
are
seeing
it
I'm
okay,
with
waiting
to
the
next
meeting
or
I'm
okay
for
moving
forward.
G
Well
and
what
I'll
go
ahead?
Mr
can
I
add
just
one
more
remark.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
So
what
all
that
is.
I
know
you
know.
As
former
governance
chair
I
and
I
saw
your
communication
regarding
the
governance
committee
meeting.
I
I
walked
into
this
meeting,
assuming
that
the
committee
had
reviewed
the
agenda
items
and
had
a
chance
to
at
least
look
over
the
resolution,
if
not
fully
digested
and
so
yeah.
G
I
think
there
might
be
some
minor
adjustments
to
the
the
document
itself,
but
that's
something
you
know
president
bellamy
I
could
confer
on,
but
the
meat
of
what's
being
proposed
both
in
the
whereas
therefore
be
resolved
pieces
I
think
won't
be
significantly
modified,
and
so,
if
we
can,
if
yeah,
if
we
can
get
the
green
light
on
the
on,
you
know
essentially
the
the
proposal.
That's
in
front
of
the
committee.
B
And
I
have
to
my
only
problem
with
it
is
technical.
I
do
see.
I
mean
it's
going
to
mean
that
the
land
acknowledgement
gets
used
a
lot
more
often
than
it
has
in
the
past,
and
I
support
that.
But
I
don't
know
the
committee
can
forward
an
idea
so
to
speak.
B
If,
when
I
come
back
with
the
finished
thing
for
the
committee
to
review
and
forward,
I
mean
that
would
be
the
normal
process
and-
and
I
guess
that's
what
I
would
recommend-
I'm
prepared
to
vote
yes
on
this,
but
I
think
it
would
mean
that
changes
would
have
to
be
made
in
the
meeting
in
public
and
again
you're,
probably
looking
at
some
word-spinning
kinds
of
things
that
that
sometimes
are
awkwardly
done
in
a
public
meeting.
So-
and
I
agree,
I
agree
with
that.
B
Okay
part
of
the
guys
have
yeah
but
I'll
just
say
that
for
the
committee
to
vote,
we
need
to
be
voting
on
a
specific
thing
and
not.
I
Some
something
that
will
be
like
what
we're
looking
at
member
lessons
has
her
hands.
Remember.
D
Wasn't
yeah
thank
you,
so
I
actually
have
a
specific
question.
I'm
supportive
of
the
intent
of
this
I
should
say,
but
I
had
a
specific
question.
My
hand
won't
go
away.
I
don't
understand
and
I
feel
like
this
needs
to
be
resolved-
that
on
one
hand
we
say
that,
as
of
the
date
of
approval
for
this
resolution,
we'll
start
doing
this
and
then
a
couple
paragraphs
later.
It
says
we
will
commission
district
policy
that
promotes
the
collaboration
that
will
generate
this
thing.
D
So
I
I
don't
know
that
both
of
those
statements
can
be
true
at
the
same
time.
So
I
have
a
question
about
when
this
would
kick
into
effect
and
then
I
will
say
that
again,
I
spent
some
time
maybe
wordsmithing
this
morning
and
maybe
that
the
perhaps
interested
committee
members
or
board
members
can
can
send
their
suggestions
to
members
bellamy
and
jacobs
to
incorporate
into
a
revised
document
to
come
back
to
governance
next
month.
Would
that
work
and
then
we
could
perhap?
D
Perhaps
you
know
not
not
write
a
blank
check
essentially
for
a
future
document,
but
really
have
the
specific
wording
move
through
committee,
as
we
have
with
other
documents.
B
Wow
my
reading
of
it
was
that
you
know
this
would
immediately
become
the
intent
of
the
board
because
of
the
resolution,
and
we
would
be
encouraging
people
to
start
using
it.
But
we
would
need
to
go
back
and
change
policy
in
places
where
we
really
want
to
mandate
that
this
is
what
happens,
and
that
would
take
a
little
bit
of
time.
But
I
understand
what
you're
pointing
out
as
being
a
little
bit
inconsistent.
B
F
F
Okay-
and
so
I
I
would,
I
would
want
to
hear-
because
we
have
been
working
this
right
now
through
the
person
that
we
started
with
is
gone,
but
the
committee,
the
native
advisory
committee,
is
still
in
place,
so
I
would
like
to
have
a
little
bit
of
feedback,
but
yeah,
I
you
know
I
the
land
acknowledgement
that
we
use
the
board
has
been.
F
You
know
out
in
front
of
this
for
a
while,
now,
probably
about
two
years,
if
not
three,
and
I
I
just
think
it
is
a-
it
is
one
of
its
it's
important
since
we
are
on
these
lands
to
to
honor
them
it
it
and-
and
you
know-
and
this
is
one
way-
that
we
could
do
that
systemically
and
have
all
kids
learn
about
it
and
and
and
benefit
from
it.
F
So
with
that
I'd
like
if
possible,
if
we
can
hear
from
staff
and
other
board
members,
we
can
do
whatever
you
want.
If
you
want
us
to
bring
it
back,
we
can
bring
gather
your
input
and
bring
it
back.
F
We
want
it
to
be
right,
but-
and-
and
I
agree
matt,
mr
chair-
that
we
don't
it's
always
easier
to
work
out
our
kinks
and
crinkles
in
committee
and
not
have
to
have
that
distraction
during
our
meeting.
J
C
C
C
K
So
if
we
can't
even
do
the
pledge
of
allegiance
in
all
our
schools,
I'm
very
concerned,
and
if
that
was
the
justification
for
not
enforcing
the
existing
policy,
I'm
very
concerned
with
adding
a
new
res
add-on
to
them.
K
If
that's
the
concern
with
the
existing
policy,
but
I
I
myself
would
think
there
is
time
in
the
morning-
and
I
also
believe,
although
there's
no
current
members
of
the
school
board,
that
did
so,
the
board
has
opposed
playing
the
national
anthem
in
schools,
even
if
it's
at
a
football
game
or
an
assembly
or
in
the
classroom
at
least
once
a
month
and
the
state
flag
song
once
a
month.
The
board
voted
against
that.
Although
no
current
member
voted
against
that.
K
B
F
Yes,
thank
you.
Well,
I
don't
entirely
agree
with
a
member
donnelly,
although
I
respect
his
his
view.
I
don't
recall
I
mean
I
don't
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
There
shouldn't
be
a
competition
between
these
these
pop
these
these
expectations
and
I
don't
recall
the
prior
superintendent
refusing
to
enforce
policy.
F
I
know
that
there
was
a
moment
a
time
when
visits
were
made
to
schools
and
I
think
it
looks
different
in
in
different
different
schools.
Some
schools
will
do
the
pledge
of
allegiance
in
their
classroom
as
a
part
of
their
day.
Other
schools
will
do
the
pledge
of
allegiance
over
the
intercom,
and
I
don't
think
that
we
want
to
tell
people
when,
and
I
mean
where
to
do
where
to
do
the
pledge
or
our
land
acknowledgement.
F
F
So
so
I
wanted
to
say
that,
and
I
wanted
to
I
and
I
know
in
the
interest
of
time
I
just
wanted
to
thank
miss
batman
for
her
her
comments
and
and
yes,
we
haven't,
you
are
new
and
you're
catching
up
and
we
appreciate
it
and
whatever
the
will
of
the
committee
is
we
can
move
forward.
I
want
to
move
forward
and
not
backwards.
K
Mr
chairman,
yes,
thank
you.
I
I
understand
how
president
bellamy
might
not
remember
that
specific
discussion,
but
the
fact
is,
we
have
an
administrative
regulation
in
place.
It
requires
the
pledge
of
allegiance
to
be
said
every
morning
over
the
loudspeaker
system.
We
have
a
state
law
that
requires
it
to
be
said
every
morning
and
yet
that's
not
happening
in
some
of
our
schools.
K
I've
been
there.
I've
seen
it
in
person,
it's
not
happening
in
some
of
our
schools.
When
the
superintendent
checked
on
it,
she
acknowledged
it
wasn't
happening,
but
she
said
we.
We
hope
that
it's
happening
in
the
classrooms,
but
there's
no
way
to
know,
and
yet
I'm
getting
reports,
it's
not
happening
in
classrooms
and
when
I
was
physically
there
personally
seeing
what
was
happening,
I
didn't
hear
it
in
classrooms,
so
maybe
they
said
it
some
other
time
of
the
day,
but
that
clearly
was
in
violation
of
administrative
regulation.
B
B
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair
yeah.
I
was
just
going
to
thank
everyone
for
the
feedback.
I
will
work
with
president
bellamy
to
coordinate
and
and
incorporate
any
feedback
from
board
members
who
wish
to
contact
us
with
suggested
language
and
then
we'll
certainly
work
with
staff,
including
ms
batman,
to
make
sure
the
process
is
continues
to
be
deliberative
as
it
has
been.
G
As
president
bellamy
stated,
this,
this
process
started
officially
in
march,
but
this
has
been
in
the
in
the
in
the
works
for
even
further
back
than
that
so
appreciate
the
committee's
time
today.
Thank
you.
B
Yeah
and
I'll
say
if
we,
if
we've
got
board
policy,
that's
not
being
followed.
That
is
a
separate
issue
and
one
that
we
will
add
to
the
agenda
the
governance
committee
for
a
future
meeting
that
that's
it'll
impact.
This
eventually
becomes
policy,
as
well
as
our
existing
policy.
B
Anyone
this
is
the
new
proposed
ar
3515.5.
A
I
believe
that
this
came
to
us
from
deb
angles
and
oh,
I
can
tell
you
hold
on.
J
I've
spoken
to
all
three
today:
okay
ted
was
okay
as
written
sonia.
I
think
the
only
thing
if
there
was
even
going
to
be
a
change,
because
there
is
a
memo
up
currently
about
a
volunteer
right.
If
that
needed
to
be
an
issue,
she
would
be
the
one
that
would
do
that
if
she
wanted
to
deb
was
okay
with
it
and
quick
overview
with
george.
He
was
okay
with
it
too.
So.
D
Can
you
hear
me
yeah,
mostly,
I
had
a
question
about
the
technology,
so
is
every
visitor
screened
against
this
database
in
real
time
or
is
there
delay
a
delay
and
if
there
is
if
it
is
in
real
time,
and
somebody
shows
up
who's
in
violation
of
of
that
who's,
flagged
like
what
happens
next
for
the
office
staff?
Procedurally,
you
know
waiting
to
sign
that
person
in
so
it
was
real.
That's
more
of
a
like
a
logistical
thing.
I
I
can
speak
to
that,
so
we
are
piloting
a
visitor
management
system
at
four
schools
this
school
year
and
the
intent
of
trying
to
pilot
these
systems
was
so.
Schools
have
a
way
to
enforce
this
school
board
policy,
because
right
now,
no
systems
that
are
used
screen
against
the
sex
offender
registry.
I
So
the
new
system
will
do
that
and
it
is
in
real
time
and
there's,
as
you
can
see
here,
there's
nothing
that
says
that
sex
offenders
cannot
be
in
our
schools
just
that
they
have
to
be
escorted
while
they're
in
our
schools.
I
So
essentially
when
someone
comes
in
and
they
check
in
as
a
visitor,
if
they're
flagged
as
a
sex
offender
it'll
pop
up
as
an
error
for
them
and
they
have
to
continue
checking
in
with
the
front
office.
And
then
the
school
policy
kind
of
the
process
goes
into
place.
At
that
point,
which
is
again
just
that
someone
has
to
escort
that
individual
for
the
business
that
they're
doing
there.
G
Thank
you,
mr,
so
I
guess
I
have
a
question
regarding
why
we're
choosing
this
vehicle,
I
I'm
not
sure
I
guess
I'm
wondering
why
this
has
to
be
a
board
policy.
I
mean
I
I
feel
like
administration.
Not
only
should,
but
is
tasked
with
having
policies
in
place
to
keep
schools
safe
and
that
mandate
exists.
F
G
Understood,
I
guess,
but
even
having
it
in
the
in
the
board
policy
document.
I
I
would
imagine
if
there's
other
items
that
aren't
spelled
out
in
ar,
I
guess
is
this
fixing
a
a
problem
that
is
this
addressing
a
problem
or
is
this
documenting
what
we?
What
we're
already
doing
or
is
this?
Is
this
instituting
new
steps?
I
don't
know,
I
guess
I'm
just
one.
I
it
seems
unusual
to
have
an
ar
and
guess
maybe
I
need
to
do
a
bit
more
reading.
Maybe
this
is
standard
for
other
things
that
we've
done.
I
E
This
is
mark
just
this
is
kind
of
an
internal
matter
of
pragmatism
or
protocol,
but
I
think
letting
you
know
that
we're
working
on
one
is
one
thing,
but
we're
not.
I
would
not
be
in
favor
of
putting
out
an
administrative
regulation
that
says
this
is
how
we
will
do
it
when
we're
piloting
pieces
of
software
and
we're
not
able
to
be
in
compliance
with
all
of
our
campuses.
E
So
I
mean
if
this
is
draft
language,
if
the
district
is
brought
forward
from
security,
that's
one
piece:
property
proper
protocol
would
be
that
we've
discussed
that
in
cabinet.
We
have
that
figured
out.
We
go
through
the
pilot,
we
work
out
the
kinks
and
bugs,
and
then
when
we
know
we
can
implement
with
compliance
an
administrative
regulation,
it
says
to
all
our
principals.
This
is
what
you
do.
That's
when
we
bring
the
ar
to
you
and
say
we're
ready,
and
this
is
what
we're
proposing.
I
Yeah,
I'm
I'm
not
sure.
I
actually
think
that
this
process
got
started
before
covid
when
we
were
piloting
a
completely
different
system,
and
this
was
just
the
process
that
we
were
told
to
follow
at
that
time
and
since
we
are
now
piloting
another
system
and
this
ar
never
got
done,
we
were
just
kind
of
picking
up
where
that
process
got
dropped
off.
Last
time,.
B
E
Of
my
questions
I
know
some
schools
use
an
electronic
system
for
visitors
to
register
others,
it's
just
a
sign-in
sheet,
so
I,
unless
things
have
changed,
I
don't
think
we're
there.
Yet
I've
got
dr
stock,
you
raise
your
hand
so,
and
actually
I
apologize
because
I
do
remember
those
earlier
meetings
where
we
did
the
we
had
them
down
on
whatever
that
was
the
red
room,
orange
room.
E
H
Yeah
rob
holiday
mark
dr
stock.
We
said
it
I.
I
would
characterize
this
as
a
sneak
preview,
but
we've
got
the
card
before
the
horse.
We
have
every
intention
of
building
out
the
new
visitor
interface
checking
system
at
all
those
schools
that's
moving
forward,
hence
hence
the
prototyping
and
testing
we're
doing
there
until
that's
complete.
I
think
we
tabled
this
yeah,
and
this
is
just
a
question
I'm
curious
about.
I
assume
that
that
would
also
catch
like
people
that
have
been
trespassed.
B
Through
all
those
any
other
comments
from
anybody
again,
this
isn't
something
the
board
votes
on
anyway.
It
is
informing
us-
and
I
think,
if
any
board
members
have
an
objection
to
the
direction
you
know
this
would
be
an
opportunity
to
to
say
that
or
if
we
support.
E
E
I
To
ashland
they're
yep,
wendler,
muldoon,
bowman
and
diamond
high
school.
B
F
I
was
just
going
to
thank
ashley
for
her
for
for
or
whoever
brought
it
forward,
but
I
do
think
that
we
shouldn't
call
it
sex
offender
anything.
It
should
be
visitor
management
system
or
something
else,
but
not
sex
offender
that
that's
just
gonna
red
flag.
Some
excite
some
folks,
but
thank
you
and
I
I
I
think
it's
I
know
that
the
other
system
I
thought
was
good,
but
this
seems
to
be
real
time
and
it
covers
everything
I
think
it's
great
it
it
it's
great.
J
B
A
If
I
may
yeah
the
this
is
a
carryover
from
last
year
and
I
expect
this
publish
to
be
pushed
out.
I
know
that
president
bellamy
had
had
some
modifications
that
she
didn't
bring
forward
last
year.
So
I
I
don't
know
that
those
are
ready,
but
I
I
think
it
never
got
a
full
review
when
we
went
through
the
9000's.
I
think
there
were
several
board
members
that
wanted
some
more
time
on
it,
but
that
particular
one,
I
think,
will
probably
take
a
whole
meeting
as
people
start
getting
into
it.
F
K
B
So
if
my
understanding
is
right,
there
are
board
members
that
have
ideas
for
changes
to
this
and
we'll
bring
them
at
a
later
date.
Would
I
be
correct.
F
B
L
I
thank
you,
mr
holland.
I
can
speak
to
this.
This
is
a
labor
relations
office
draft,
put
together
by
our
staff
in
response
to
some
board
interest
in
this
area.
That's
been
expressed
over
the
last
year,
or
so
there
just
to
give
some
context
and
background,
and
president
bellamy
would
recall
there.
In
the
prior
policy
series,
was
an
adult
student
boundaries
policy
which
did
not
carry
through
with
the
adoption
of
the
asb
template
for.
J
L
Series,
the
district
has
just
to
be
clear,
has
continued
through
the
hr
division
and
office
of
equity
and
compliance
to
hold
professionals
responsible
to
these
adult
student
boundary
requirements
through
one-on-one
training
through
discipline
response,
where
staff
was
inappropriate,
with
students
and
in
response
to
complaints
when
they
were
received
by
various
departments.
L
L
What
would
capture
those
former
policy
requirements
in
a
new
policy
here
numbered
board
policy
4120.
B
B
F
And
I
I
don't
mr
chair,
if
I
might,
I
don't
know
that
it's
prohibited.
I
know
it
informs
it's
a
risk
and
you
know
people,
you
know
it's
it's
you
know
I.
I
can
recall
people
saying
well.
Nobody
said
I
couldn't
have
the
kids
over
to
my
house.
Well,
this.
F
This
establishes
that
that
is
a
risky
behavior
for
for
for
some
adults
I
mean
people
have
to
make
choices,
but
if,
if
when
my
kids
were
it
did
like
yours?
Like
your
situation,
my
kids
were
in
elementary
school
middle
school
high
school,
they
had
friends,
we
made
a
conscious
decision
that
they
wouldn't
sleep
over.
We
could
do
outside
activities,
but
they
we
didn't,
have
sleepovers
not
only
to
protect
my
my
my
myself
as
a
professional,
but
to
just
not
have
that
as
an
a
situation.
F
But
so
people
are
gonna
have
to
make
some
choices,
but
it's
better,
I
think,
for
us
to
have
a
higher
expectation
than
for
people
to
say.
Well,
you
didn't
say
I
couldn't
do
it
so
anyway.
That's.
B
My
feelings
in
the
second
paragraph
under
maintain
professional
boundaries.
To
that
end,
all
employee
interactions
will,
I
think
it
means
with
students,
will
be
in
furtherance
of
and
consistent
with,
some
educational
or
other
professional
services
me.
That
means
you
can't
have
a
kid
go
with
your
kid
to
mcdonald's.
F
D
Thank
you.
That
is
a
thank
you
for
sharing
that
concern.
I
think
that's
a
valid
concern.
I
had
a
note
that
how
does
protecting
a
student
from
threat
of
harm
intersect
with
our
restraint
and
seclusion
policies,
and
should
there
be
wording
that
references,
the
threat
of
harming
other
students
or
adults
as
a
part
of
this.
L
If
I
may,
I
I
think
the
effort
here
in
in
that
same
paragraph
that
and
thank
you
for
pointing
out
the
the
type
of
apologies
there.
But
the
the
the
idea
here
or
the
overarching
premise,
is
that
the
interactions
are
motivated
by
motivated
by
professional
purpose
that
so
long
as
those
actions
are
even
if
they
involve
physical
contact
or
within
the
scope
of
one's
professional
responsibilities.
They
wouldn't
be
contrary
to
the
intent
here.
L
L
That
would
be,
I
mean
if
true,
would
be
a
reasonable
use
of
physical
contact
with
a
student
under
those
circumstances.
So
I
think,
as
long
as
the
the
touch
happens
within
the
and
and
one
of
the
other
things
that
we
heard
from
stakeholders
in
putting
this
together
was
perhaps
depending
on
age
of
students,
there
may
be
some
incidental
contact
physical
contact
with
students
at
say,
an
elementary
age
where
a
kid
comes
in
for
a
hug
or
whatever
that
you
wouldn't
maybe
view
the
same
way.
L
If,
if
it
were
an
older
student
or
there'd,
be
potentially
more
scrutiny,
and
I
think
all
of
that
would
come
under
the
the
purview
of
the
administrator.
Reviewing
the
concern
to
understand
the
context
and
whether
there
was
an
underlying
personal
interest,
motivating
that
contact
or
whether
the
student
or
the
adult.
L
E
Doctor
well,
I
would
just
say
that
I
think
any
reasonable
reading
of
it
of
the
word
employee
would
more
or
less
indicate
that
it
is
in.
In
the
perspective
of
that
person
as
an
employed
member
of
the
organization
doing
their
duties.
You
know
all
of
our
teachers
who
have
children
have
interactions
with
their
children's
friends.
That
would
be
part
of
normal
life
and
and
to
the
extent
to
which
that's
a
normal
birthday
party
at
your
house,
and
they
have
to
be
friends.
That's
not
an
employee
interaction.
E
So
right,
you
know
anything
else
would
almost
be
an
ocs
level
complaint,
we're
talking
about
violations
of
social
appropriateness.
That
would
go
to
other
agencies
at
first
and
then
to
us
when
we
find
out
about
it
on
the
side.
So
I'm
not
reading
too
much
conflict
with
the
language
right
here.
I
think
the
reasonable
use
of
the
word
employees
interactions
imply
that
it's
within
the
scope
of
working,
not
not
what
you
do
every
weekend
with
your
family's.
B
And
you
know
just
because
outside
of
work
hours
or
something
like
that
doesn't
mean
we
have
no
concern
about
it.
We
still
have
great
concerns,
but
I
do
think
we
just
have
to
allow
for
the
fact
that
employees
have
kids
and
those
kids
have
friends
that
are
asd
students
and
to
that
end
we
interact
with
them
in
a
lot
of
ways
that
don't
have
educational
professional
purpose.
B
F
F
Actually,
I
just
looked
back
to
see
you
know
this
last
year,
these
last
two
years,
especially
during
covet
adult
student
boundary
instances
of
inappropriate
adult
student
boundaries
throughout
our
state,
has
been
like
huge
and
which
led
to
the
aasb
bringing
putting
out
a
policy.
F
So
what
I
would,
what
I
would
recommend
is
that
we
that
we
look
at
aasb's
policy.
I
think
it
came
out
in
2020
or
2021
and
try
to
because
it
does
talk
about
outside
relationships
with
students.
It
talks
about
professional
boundaries.
It
talks
about
what
happens
with
technology.
I
mean
it's,
it
kind
of
breaks
it
out
in
little
in
chunks
that
might
re
that
might
address
the
limitations
that
you
are
that
you
believe
exists
in
4120.
F
So
I
would
recommend
that
we
do
a
cross
walk
between
this
proposed
4120
and
I
think
it's
for
5141
in
the
aasb
new
policy
series
that
might
give
the
language
we
can
pull
some
of
that
language.
To
look
at
purpose.
Adult
I
mean
you
know,
professional
boundaries,
reporting
outside
relationships,
etc,
etc.
A
I
I
was
just
going
to
share
that.
I
think
that's
where
it
started
is
that
I
had
shared
that
policy
from
aasb
with
matt
and
his
team,
so
I'm
not
looking
at
them
to
crosswalk,
but
I
do
know
that
right,
starting
place
and.
L
Thank
you
if
I
may
thank
you,
president
bellamy
and.
D
L
That's
accurate
this
policy
when
it
came
to
me
for
first
review
from
staff
who
developed
it
was
much
longer,
as
is
the
aasp
policy
and
more
detailed.
I
don't
think
that's
consistent
with
this
board's
approach
to
board
policy.
I
think
that's
more
consistent
with
the
administrative
regulation
adopted
consistent
with
with
the
board
policy.
L
That
said,
will
the
board
we
can
go
either
direction,
but
it
was
my
direction
to
staff
in
the
first
review
of
this
policy
to
pare
down
state
the
policy
objective
and
some
of
the
details
to
your
point.
Member
bellamy,
I
think,
would
follow
and
they
are.
I
would
also
point
out
it's
renumbered
intentionally,
because
I
don't
understand
why
a
policy
aimed
at
personnel
is
numbered
in
the
student
policy
series,
5
000.
So
that's
why
it's
not
numbered
in
in
the
four
thousands,
but,
but
I
can
bring
back.
L
Respond
to
these
suggestions
today,
a
revised
version
and
maybe
two
versions
to
look
at
with
some
incorporating
the
detail
in
the
policy
and
another
with
a
separate
ar.
If
that
would
be
something.
B
Speaking
personally,
I
would
want
a
policy
that
was
meant
to
be
comprehensive
to
all
actions
by
our
fire
staff
in
and
out
of
school,
but
recognizes
the
real
life
situations
that
people
get
into
any
other
comments,
questions.
B
Debating
whether
to
say
something
or
not,
I
just
I
feel
like,
and
it
gets
back
to
the
coven
and
probably
the
school
board,
one
bigger.
We
did
kind
of
have
discussions.
I
have
with
mike
fleckenstein
early
in
cobit
about
the
districts.
K
Going
to
online
learning
and
kind
of
some
of
the
tools
that
need
to
be
in
place,
so
I
just
throw
out,
if
you
guys
do
a
policy
like
this,
there
should
be
something
in
the
aar
or
in
the
policy
that
says
the
district
will
provide
failures,
educators
to
keep
those
boundaries
because
it
was
it.
This
is
the
issue
out
of
mike.
Was
we
we've
really
cleared
boundaries
in
email?
You
know
that's
yours
and
you
have
access
to
all
that,
but
the
texting
was.
K
I'll
say,
as
a
teacher
that
managed
a
system
in
one
school
that
that
created
a
wall
to
where
students
and
staff
could
text
each
other
without
knowing
each
other's
numbers
and
all
transmission
was
recorded
and
students
were
restricted
to
a
school
issue.
Email.
K
B
Never
been
a
popular
idea,
it
is
additional
work
and
money,
but
especially
you
know,
we
would
have
been
so
much
better
prepared
to
go
into
remote
learning
is
if
that
had
been
our
practice.
There
are
systems
out
there
that
provide
a
great
deal
of
oversight,
protection.
They
cost
money
depending
on.
B
K
Chairman
yeah,
oh
before
before
we
adjourn,
I
just
wanted
to
update
the
members,
the
the
actual
regulation
that
I
was
referring
to
the
administrative
regulation
and
I
just
clicked
on
the
wrong
thing
and
my
computer's
acting
up
now,
yeah
sorry
about
that
folks.
I
just
clicked
on
the
wrong
item
and
lost
it
here
to
go.
K
Thank
you,
that'll
be
noted,
and
we
will
address
that.
Add
that
to
the
agenda
for
the
next
meeting
quick
question
to
the
committee
members
and
anyone
else
would
you
like
to
have.
B
An
additional
meeting
between
now
and
the
next
scheduled
one
which
is
not
september
22nd.
We
can.
We
don't
have
too
much
to
finish
out
this
one,
but
we
can
either
in
fact
I'll
say
that
I
will
schedule
a
meeting
either
late
this
month
or
very
early
in
september
september.
22Nd
is
about
six
or
seven
weeks
away,
so
I
I
don't
want
to
wait
that
long.
So.
D
I
will
deal
with
committee
members
about
an
appropriate
meeting.
Thank
you.
I
support
that.
I
think
it'd
be
great
to
circle
back
on
some
of
these,
so
we
can
keep
moving
forward
on
other
items.
It'll
be
at
least
two
weeks
from
now,
and
it
gets
time
perhaps
to.