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From YouTube: BOE 9-26-2018 General Session Meeting
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A
A
Welcome
to
this
meeting
of
the
Board
of
Education,
this
meeting
is
being
televised,
live
on
AE,
CPS,
TV
and
live
streamed
on
the
Internet
general
information
and
protocols
for
the
meeting
are
posted
on
the
sign
by
the
doorway.
As
you
entered
the
room
to
please
make
sure
you
read
those
if
you
have
not
already
item
2.03
is
approval
of
the
minutes.
A
B
C
C
Remembers
the
board
and
doctor
alato.
As
you
know,
employee
and
Student
Wellness
are
a
key
component
of
our
school
systems,
strategic
plan
as
part
of
that
effort
to
emphasize
wellness
and
to
help
others.
Schools
across
our
County
participate
in
American,
Heart
Association
events
each
year.
We
are
very
part
of
proud
of
this
partnership
and
of
the
many
ways
in
which
it
aids,
our
students,
our
staff
and
our
communities,
and
now
Denise
will
tell
you
more
about
some
of
our
health
outstanding
schools
and
their
efforts.
E
Good
evening
tonight
we
are
here
to
recognize
the
top
three
participating
schools
from
last
year.
These
three
schools
went
above
and
beyond
to
encourage
their
students
to
get
physically
active
eat
healthier
and
to
make
heart
health
a
priority.
Students
at
these
schools
were
encouraged
to
be
physically
active,
make
smart
nutritional
choices
and
to
take
a
heart-healthy
pledge
which
asked
them
to
either
drink
more
water
instead
of
sugary
beverages
to
eating
fruit
or
vegetable
at
every
meal
and
to
take
part
in
an
additional
60
minutes
of
physical
activity
every
day.
E
So
without
further
ado,
recognizing
our
schools,
I'd
like
to
mention
bodkin
Elementary,
is
our
number
three
Jump
Rope
for
Heart
School.
It
was
led
by
principal
Rachel
Amstutz
and
teacher
Michelle
Court
Michelle
Corey
98
students
took
the
heart-healthy
pledge
and
they
raised
seventeen
thousand
six
hundred
and
forty
two
dollars
in
life-saving
funding.
E
Our
number
two
Jump
Rope
for
Heart
School
is
Shadyside
Elementary,
led
by
principal
Jeff
Casey
and
teacher
Brittany
Pastrana
more
than
a
hundred
and
ten
students
took
the
heart-healthy
pledge
and
they
raised
eighteen
thousand
and
eighty
two
dollars
in
vital
donations
and
our
number
one
Jump
Rope
for
Heart
School
in
Anne
Arundel
County
last
year,
was
Crofton
Woods
Elementary,
led
by
principal
Lynn
beerus
and
teacher
Karen,
Webb's
Webster,
who
has
since
retired
and
mr.
Ken
Fowler
more
than
a
hundred,
and
seventy-five
students
took
a
pledge
to
be
heart-healthy
along
with
that.
E
They
raised
20
thousand
three
hundred
and
twenty-six
dollars
in
life-saving
donations.
I'd
also
like
to
mention
Anne
Arundel
County
is
the
number
five
School
District
in
the
state
of
Maryland
for
raising
donations
for
the
American
Heart
Association.
The
district
raised
two
hundred
fifty
nine
thousand
two
hundred
and
seventy
one
dollars.
Last
year
alone,
we
at
the
American
Heart
Association
could
not
do
what
we
do
every
day
without
your
support,
and
for
that
we
are
extremely
grateful.
E
F
Thank
you,
mrs.
Hummer
I
typically
do
not
join
in
on
this
part
of
the
evening.
This
is
part
of
the
evening
for
the
board
to
really
celebrate
the
time
they've
been
out
in
schools
and
out
in
the
community,
but
I
am
so
excited
about
an
event
that
occurred
last
night.
That
I
just
can't
contain
myself,
so
we
have
to
deal
with
it.
F
Last
night
we
cut
the
ribbon
on
our
first
official
student-run
business
venture
in
Anne
Arundel
County
Public
Schools,
we
opened
we,
our
students
opened
the
cafe
at
Maryland
Hall
for
those
of
you
that
are
familiar
with
Maryland
Hall.
On
the
second
level,
the
main
level
there
is
cafe
space
that
was
built
many
years
ago
in
a
number
of
businesses
have
come
and
gone,
but
through
some
hard
work
and
dedication
and
vision
of
Maureen
McMann
and
many
of
her
staff.
F
So
they
are
not
only
baking
and
cooking,
but
they
are
interning
and
running
the
business,
they're
learning
how
to
market
they're
learning
how
to
develop
the
appropriate
costs,
they're
running
the
cafe
and
they
we
cut
the
ribbon
last
night
and
it's
fabulous
addition.
In
addition
to
that,
the
cafe
has
art
space
where
our
Performing
and
visual
art
students
will
be
displaying
their
art
throughout
the
year
and
on
Thursday
evenings
pretty
soon
we'll
be
starting
up.
F
Some
some
cafe,
music,
where
our
PBA
students
will
be
performing
in
the
cafe
on
Thursday
evenings
and
so,
if
you're
ever
in
and
around
and
you're.
Looking
your
melon
haul
and
you're
looking
for
a
place
to
stop
in
stop
in
and
have
a
cup
of
coffee
or
a
Danish
or
a
salad
or
sandwich,
introduce
yourself
to
our
students
because
they
are
awesome
and
so
I'm
sorry
I
just
couldn't
be
taking
myself.
F
It
was
a
fabulous
night
and
it's
a
great
intersection
of
partnership
with
Maryland
Hall,
as
well
as
our
dedication
to
really
creating
opportunities
for
students.
We
as
a
staff
talked
a
lot
about
creating
opportunities,
and
this
is
yet
another
opportunity
outside
the
classroom
that
connects
them
to
the
real-world
learning,
that's
happening
in
the
classroom
and
so
just
a
plug
for
the
great
kids
and
the
work
at
Maryland
Hall
and
stop
by
the
cafe
at
Maryland
Hall.
So
thank
you.
A
So
and
speaking
of
food
services,
so
last
week,
I
had
the
opportunity
to
represent
Anne
Arundel
County
and
the
National
School
Board
Association
in
a
roundtable
meeting
with
Secretary
of
Agriculture
sonny
Perdue,
and
we
were
talking
about
the
school
nutrition
programs
and
various
things
that
we
had
represented
from
all
over
the
country
there
who
were
sharing
things
that
improvements
we'd
like
to
see
in
the
law
regarding
school
lunches
and
school
meals
and
some
things
that
can
help
us
to
better
serve
our
kids.
And
it
was
a
great
opportunity
also
just
to
hear
challenges.
A
Different
parts
of
the
country
have
we
shared
a
lot
of
them,
but
there
was
representative
from
South
Dakota
who
talked
about
how
it
with
a
great
difficulty.
They
had
serving
fresh
fruit
to
their
children
because
they
can't
get
it
by
the
time
they
get
it.
The
quality
is
very
poor
and
we're
so
we're
very
fortunate
over
here.
So
it's
interesting
to
hear
from
other
people
around
the
country,
but
also
to
speak
up
for
all
the
school
board's
around
and
talk
about
ways
that
we
could
better
meet
the
nutrition
needs
of
our
students.
G
G
We
hosted
the
initial
session
of
our
middle
school
leadership
series
at
Arlington
echo,
approximately
130
students
from
15
middle
schools
across
the
county,
completed
the
initiative
and
confidence
course
working
on
relationship
building
communication
and
problem-solving,
as
as
a
team
on
September
29th
members
of
cross
will
attend
the
2018
MSE,
a
early
career
educator
summit
to
take
part
in
a
panel
discussion
regarding
the
positive
impact
that
educators
have
had
on
our
lives
and
how
they
have
helped
us
to
succeed.
Since
reconvening.
We
have
began
the
process
of
revising
our
platform
and
drafting
our
new
constitution.
G
We
have
also
began
planning
several
general
assemblies.
Our
first
will
be
in
November,
focusing
on
connecting
military
dependent
families
to
their
communities.
We
are
collaborating
with
naval
support,
Annapolis
and
Miss
Chobani.
The
2018-2019
year
has
officially
kicked
off
and
with
it
comes
the
all
too
exciting
back
to
school
nights.
Our
executive
team
members
have
attended
these
events
to
provide
information
about
kresk.
We're
excited
to
see
what
the
2018
2019
year
brings
for
our
awesome.
Acps
students
I
appreciate
the
time
to
give
you
a
quick
update
about
what's
happening
in
kresk.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
H
Good
evening
board
members
Kitty
named
dr.
alotta,
my
name
is
Vanessa
Rivera
and
with
Anne
Arundel
County
Council
PT
AIDS
I
just
want
to
give
you
a
quick
update
since
the
last
time
I
was
here.
Over
the
summer
we
conducted
leadership,
grant
training
and
financial
training
for
our
local
units.
We
also
have
guest
speakers
on
security.
In
the
new
strategic
plan.
Now
we've
been
very
busy
assisting
local
units
with
financial
audits
and
assisting
them,
maintaining
their
good
standing
status.
H
Our
goal
currently
for
the
years
to
provide
as
much
training
to
all
the
local
units,
so
they
can
take
the
information
back
to
their
schools
and
run
successful
PTA
units
on
October
15th.
We're
very
excited
to
announce
that
we
have
an
opportunity
for
PTAs
to
network
with
other
units.
We
will
also
have
a
Q&A
with
the
supervisor
for
school
security,
doctor
I'm,
sorry,
Dola,
batten
and
with
superintendent,
dr.
alato.
H
A
Thank
you.
Alright.
Now
we'll
move
on
to
public
comment.
Anyone
wishing
to
speak
on
an
item
not
on
today's
agenda
may
offer
testimony
during
this
public
comment.
Portion
of
the
meeting
speakers
are
allotted
three
minutes
each
and
may
not
allocate
their
time
to
others.
A
tone
will
sound
when
time
has
expired.
The
board
asks
that
comments
remain
civil
and
appropriate
for
the
various
audiences
that
may
be
watching
or
viewing
this
meeting
student
specific
and
personnel
matters
are
confidential
and
cannot
be
discussed
in
this
forum.
A
D
D
J
J
As
we
know
from
my
visits
to
the
board
before
the
State
Department
of
Health
has
issued
secret
letters
to
every
school
superintendent
in
the
state
pushing
the
shot,
and
the
good
news
is
that
if
you
compare
the
2018
letter
to
the
2017
letter,
there
are
a
lot
of
changes
and
the
changes
include
removing
the
word
critical
and
sentence
one.
We
no
longer
have
a
critical
crisis
of
under
vaccination
against
HPV
in
the
state
of
Maryland,
that's
gone
and
it's
no
longer
imperative
for
kids
to
get
the
shot.
J
J
J
The
Department
of
Health
is
attempting
to
co-opt
our
schools
to
earn
sales
bonuses
for
pushing
the
HPV
shot,
the
more
they
sell,
the
more
money
they
get
and,
of
course
they
have
to
avoid
the
Infineon
fact
that
Christina
tarsal
of
Sparx
Maryland,
her
death
has
been
attributed
to
the
HPV
shot
and
that
decision
in
the
United
States
Court
of
Federal
Claims,
was
announced
in
September.
2017
I
want
to
share
this
with
you
all.
J
This
is
the
annapolis
capital
from
about
three
weeks
ago
and
over
here
on
the
right
above
the
break.
On
the
opinion
section,
you
have
dr.
Howard
half
defending
the
program.
What
he
says
is
that
there
are
targets
for
sales
of
this
shot
in
the
state
of
Maryland.
That's
a
very
curious
statement.
Dr.
haft
defends
taking
ninety
two
million
dollars
over
five
years
to
push
this
shot
in
our
states,
the
more
they
sell,
the
more
money
they
get.
He
does
not
mention
the
death
of
Christina
tarsal
in
this
I'll
bet.
J
J
Let's
see
here,
pasta
the
thus
acclaim
was
filed
in
the
vaccine
court
for
the
Gardasil
induce
death
of
my
beloved
twenty-three
old
daughter,
Christina
tarsal.
The
court
rigorously
assessed
whether
the
evidence
presented
satisfied
the
rules
of
law
in
the
vaccine
court.
The
evidence
included
testimony
reports
by
experts,
reams
of
studies
and
medical
records.
The
court
determined
that
we
had
met
our
burden
of
proof
according
to
law,
and
she
was
entitled
to
compensation
I
implore,
this
board
to
speak
with
the
Department
of
Health
and
the
State
Board
and
get
the
pharma
marketing
out
of
our
schools.
K
Good
evening
Melissa
Ellis
of
Millersville
Maryland
on
April.
Actually,
let
me
start
with
this.
The
Center
for
Disease
Control
has
it
indicated
no
safe
blood
level
lead
level
in
children
has
been
identified
on
April
5th
2017
and
Rowan
County
Board
of
Education
put
out
this
letter
indicating
we
oppose
House
bill
2
70,
as
it
would
still
have
the
effect
of
reducing
or
circumscribing
local
board
authority
and
creates
an
unfunded
mandate.
Additionally,
this
bill
would
require
the
involvement
of
state
agencies
and
matters
and
responsibilities
that
currently
fall
under
the
jurisdiction
of
local
school
systems.
K
The
Anne
Arundel
County,
Public
Schools
division
of
facilities
is
responsible
for
the
construction,
maintenance
and
operation
of
all
public
facilities
in
a
safe
and
efficient
manner.
In
support
of
the
educational
goals
of
a
a
CPS,
a
a
CPS
operates
public
school
facilities
in
a
manner
conducive
to
the
educational
process
by
ensuring
the
health,
safety,
comfort
and
welfare
of
the
occupants.
Local
school
systems
devote
substantial
staff
time
and
resources
to
provide
healthy
school
environments,
which
include
the
water
quality
and
addressing
any
issues
associated
with
water
quality.
K
After
this
letter
was
issued,
the
bill
passed
an
AE
CPS
requested
and
received
an
extension
on
this
mandate.
However,
Prince
George's
County
Public
Schools,
a
district
that
has
85
more
schools
than
AE
CPS,
was
able
to
complete
their
testing
by
the
deadline
indicated
in
the
mandate
to
your
point
that
this
bill
reduced
local
authority
if
it
was
in
the
best
interest
of
our
students.
Isn't
that
more
important
than
your
control?
K
How
does
this
demonstrate
that
a
a
CPS
operates
public
school
facilities
in
a
manner
conducive
to
the
educational
process,
by
ensuring
the
health,
safety,
comfort
and
welfare
of
the
defense
I
believe
the
public,
particularly
students
and
their
parents,
should
hear
from
the
board
how
this
position
was
made
in
the
best
interest
of
the
students
of
Anne,
Arundel,
County,
Public,
Schools
and
I
urge
you
to
please
speed
up
the
process,
completing
the
testing
in
the
remaining
schools
and
treat
this
as
a
health
emergency
affecting
our
kids
and
the
staff
in
our
schools.
Thank
you.
Thank.
L
Good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
I'm
dr.
Mary
Joe,
Tony
I,
am
with
the
Anne
Arundel
County
branch
of
the
n-double
a-c-p.
In
addition
to
being
secretary
of
our
branch,
I
am
co-chair
the
Education
Committee
I'm
here
tonight
at
the
express
direction
of
our
president
Reverend
Steve
to
let
who
regrets
that.
He
cannot
be
here
himself.
I
too
wish
to
speak
on
behalf
of
our
branch
of
the
n-double
a-c-p
about
the
lead
in
the
water
in
our
schools.
First,
let
me
frame
our
concerns.
L
Well,
we're
glad
that
the
ACPs
has
sent
out
a
letter
to
families
of
children
who
attend
schools.
Oh
the
water
has
not
yet
been
tested
for
lead,
letting
them
know
that
students
may
bring
water
bottles
from
home.
We
do
raise
the
question
if
we
have
no
idea
of
whether
or
not
the
water
from
home
is
any
better
than
the
leaded
water
from
the
drinking
fountains.
You
don't
regard
this
as
a
complete
solution,
we're
not
even
sure
that
it
improves
the
situation.
L
We
are
also
glad
that
a
a
CPS
is
sharing
the
water
testing
data
in
a
transparent
manner.
I
believe
we
all
depend
on
this.
That
said,
we
are
very
concerned
about
the
health,
but
the
children
and
the
teachers
and
staff
and
our
school
systems,
as
we
assume
you
know,
and
as
we
just
heard,
there
is
no
safe
lead
level
in
the
blood
of
children.
Even
low
levels
of
lead
and
blood
have
been
shown
to
affect
IQ
ability
to
pay
attention
and
academic
achievement.
The
effects
of
lead
exposure
cannot
be
correct.
L
It
is
safe
to
assume,
given
that
we
already
have
positive
results
that
once
tested
more
many
more
of
the
water
outlets
and
the
schools
that
have
not
been
tested
are
going
to
come
back
as
positive.
In
short,
children
are
now
being
exposed
to
lead,
as
our
teachers
and
staff
now
I
want
to
raise
some
questions
beyond
allowing
water
Kid
the
children
to
bring
water
bottles
to
school,
what
does
Anne
Arundel,
County
Public
School
doing
to
protect
teachers
and
students
from
exposure
to
lead?
L
I
know
from
personal
conversation
that
teachers
are
bringing
water
at
their
own
expense
and
giving
it
to
children
how
many
students
and
teachers
are
drinking
from
water
outlets
that
haven't
been
tested,
but
that
could
test
positive
with
the
transparency.
The
data
we
can
keep
track
with
that
probability,
but
we'd
have
to
build
in
assumptions
that
there
was
an
equal
probability
of
lead
in
the
water
at
all
the
schools
and
that's
not
true.
The
older
schools
are
more
dangerous
and
it's
the
water
that
cafeterias
staff
are
using
for
cooking
safe.
L
Therefore,
let
me
state
the
position
of
the
land
Anna
Rundle
County
branch
of
the
N
double
AC
P,
with
respect
to
actions
that
we
would
like
to
see
this
body
to
take,
we
believe
the
safest
thing
to
do
would
be
to
assume
that
outlets
contain
led
until
proven.
Otherwise,
we
believe
systems
need
to
be
in
place
now
to
make
sure
that
all
students
and
staff
and
teachers
have
safe
water
to
drink
at
school
and
the
school
lunches
are
made
with
safe
water.
L
To
do
this,
we
may
all
need
to
come
up
with
creative,
dynamic
solutions,
working
together
with
other
entities
and
each
other.
We
also
want
to
see
the
testing
timeline
accelerated,
especially
in
the
ODIs
oldest
schools
and
schools
that
serve
the
youngest
students.
Those
will
have
the
longest
exposure
in
the
future
until
we
correct
the
problem.
Those
who
are
most
vulnerable
there
has
to
be
some
way
to
get
things
done
faster,
for
example,
hiring
more
water
testing
companies
is
one
example.
We
look
forward
to
intergate
to
engaging
with
this
body
and
finding
solutions.
M
Good
evening
board
and
doctor
our
lotto,
my
name
is
Aaron
Snell
and
I'm
speaking
tonight
as
a
president
of
the
hills,
mirror
Elementary
School,
PTA
I.
Also
speaking
about
LED
tonight,
I
wasn't
planning
on
speaking
about
this
tonight,
but
I
really
feel
compelled.
After
our
PTA
meeting
last
night,
we
had
a
completely
full
media
center
of
parents
and
Anna
gym
full
of
students,
and
our
parents
are
very
concerned
about
the
LED
and
I'm
also
hearing
appreciation
about
transparency
of
data
about
the
letter.
M
Informing
parents
and
I've
also
heard
that
there
are
efforts
to
try
to
speed
up
the
process.
But
what
I'm
concerned
about
is
in
the
interim
we
are
concerned.
They
already
know
that
there
are
students
drinking
the
water
at
our
school.
One
parent
came
to
me
today
saying
I
just
learned
my
five-year-old.
She
has
our
water
bottle
at
school,
but
at
gym
time,
she's
drinking
out
of
the
fountains
and
how
many
students
I
have
a
seven-year-old
or
no
sorry.
M
Now,
8
year
old
and
a
5
year
old
and
a
2
year
old
and
my
students
might
is
in
3rd
grade
and
he's
been
drinking
water
at
Hills
Mian.
For
4
years
and
out
of
the
same
two
water
fountains,
and
so
what?
If
that
water
fountain
one
of
those
water
fountains,
is
in
the
7%
of
water
outlets
that
has
tested
positive
or
elevated
lead
levels.
M
Basically
are.
The
purpose
of
the
PTA
is
to
advocate
for
all
children,
and
so
at
Hills
mirror.
We
are
trying
to
advocate
for
the
kids
at
our
school
as
well
as
fundraise,
to
get
clean
water,
and
so
we
are
budgeting
and
trying
to
find
clean
water
for
our
school.
But
we
know
we're
a
very
privileged
PTA
and
so
we're
concerned
not
only
about
our
students
who
don't
have
access
to
BPA
free
water
bottles
and
we're
trying
to
find
donors,
but
is
that
the
role
is
that
what
we
should
be
having
to
do?
M
And
what
about
the
schools
that
don't
have
a
PTA
that
is
able
to
raise
the
funds
that
we
are
able
to
raise
so
I
might
ask
tonight
is
to
the
board
in
terms
of
creative
solutions.
There
have
to
be
some
other
ways
to
bring
in
partners
or
to
find
funding
emergency
funding
to
have
safe
water
for
our
students,
because
I
agree
with
what
the
n-double-a-cp
representative
said
that
until
we
know
it
is
safe,
I
don't
feel
comfortable
having
my
children
or
any
children
any
drinking.
M
This
water,
and
especially
thinking
of
the
cafeterias
or
I,
know
when
water
is
cooked
and
water
evaporates
that
that
intensifies
the
amount
of
lead,
at
least
from
my
understanding,
intensive,
could
intensify,
led
the
presence
of
lead.
So
I'm
wondering
what
is
being
done
in
the
interim
to
make
sure
our
kids
are
not
getting
exposed
at
dangerous
levels.
So
thank
you.
N
Good
evening,
I
am
Ilya
Oates,
the
parent
of
a
now
3rd
grader
at
tells
me
Elementary,
School
I
know
the
budget
is
later
on
the
agenda,
but
I
wanted
to
first
just
thank
the
superintendent
for
including
the
hills
mere
feasibility
study
this
year.
The
main
reason
I
am
here
tonight
and
I-
will
keep.
This
short
is
about
the
water
safety
testing.
N
Yet
we
have
seen
too
often
the
health
effects
of
lead
and
consumable
water,
especially
for
populations
with
limited
health
care,
and
so
every
day
every
month
can
make
a
difference
if
our
kids,
teachers
and
school
staff,
including
staff
who
are
pregnant,
are
exposed
to
high
levels
of
lead.
So
please
put
in
additional
protections
until
the
testing
is
complete.
Thank
you.
O
Good
evening
my
name
is
Roberto
Garza
and
three
children
which
attend
Hillsboro,
Elementary,
I'm,
also
a
proud
graduate
of
the
international
parent
and
Community
Leadership
Academy.
Thank
you
so
much
for
supporting
that
I
learned
a
lot,
and
especially
speaking
with
dr.
lado,
one
of
the
things
and
I'm
here
to
speak
about
the
late
issue.
One
of
the
things
as
I
was
thinking
of
my
comments
is
one
of
the
things
I
learned
from
IPC
la
was
how
the
county
and
your
staff
and
the
schools
do.
You
have
experts
right.
O
O
What
I'm
saying
is
I
would
love
to
learn
more
about
how
the
county,
and
that
you,
as
the
Board
of
Education,
are
coming
together
and
thinking
outside
of
your
your
current
sort
of
stakeholders,
because,
obviously,
as
you
think
about
lead
and
the
process
that
you're
engaged
in
to
resolve
this
mandate,
you
can
easily
think
of
other
stakeholders,
such
as
the
public
health
officials
at
the
county
and
and
higher
levels.
I
can
think
of.
This
is
obviously
a
complex
process,
so
perhaps
seeing
a
process
management
could
be
interesting.
O
So
it
would
be
great
to
know
more
about
how,
as
you
given
the
urgency
that
we're
all
you
know,
could
collectively
take
this
issue.
I
hope
that
you
are
continuously
reassessing
your
processes,
so
you
can
find
efficiencies
to
accelerate,
write
to
accelerate
the
the
plan
to
complete
the
testing
and
then
address
the
issues
that
you
find.
So
how
are
you
involving
other
individuals
to
critically
assess
the
plot
process
so
that
you
know
through
the
Six
Sigma
approaches?
Perhaps
you
know
business
level
approaches
you
can
identify
efficiencies,
reconsider
what
you're
doing
and
find
solutions
and
accelerate.
O
So
love
to
learn
more
about
that
and
challenge
you
to
think
more
broadly,
you
certainly
have
universities
and
other
institutions
and
experts
across
the
people
who
can
help
you
critically
review
that.
Secondly,
public
health
education
is
a
subfield
of
public
health
and
it's
certainly
a
rich
field
that
includes
behavioral
health.
You
know
it
takes
into
account
literacy
levels
to
you
know.
The
idea
is
to
identify
and
understand
your
community
so
that
you
can
educate
them,
so
they
can
make
better
healthier
choices
right.
So
I
commend
dr.
O
a
lot--oh
for
the
great
information
that
he
provided
to
families
and
the
open
and
transparent
information
is
fantastic.
I
also
see
the
opportunity
here
to
bring
in
the
public
health
folks
so
that
you
can
provide
health,
education,
information
to
families
on
healthy
water
or
how
to
identify
the
effects,
the
importance
of
getting
more
blood
screening
so
that
you
can
identify
the
children
that
perhaps
have
been
affected,
get
them
the
help
they
need
and
help
families
to
continue
to
make
healthy
choices.
Thank
you
so
much
thank.
P
Hi
there
good
evening
day,
Michelle
Haim
I'm,
a
parent
of
a
second
grader.
She
goes
to
Folger
and
I'm
also
speaking
tonight
regarding
the
lead
water
situation,
specifically
I'm
concerned
about
the
five
schools
tested
last
spring,
whose
test
results
are
still
pending.
It's
an
awful
long
time
to
wait
for
for
results
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
can't
encourage
the
lab
to
move
a
little
quicker
in
processing
those
results
in
our
months
and
months
and
months
since
they
were
taken
and
I.
P
I
know
that
Folger
was
recently
rented,
but
it's
my
understanding
that
it
wasn't
totally
replumbed
and
when
that,
when
that
happens,
there's
still
a
risk
and
I'm
not
gonna
play
roulette
with
my
child,
nor
what
I
recommend
any
other
parent
did
the
same.
It
would
be
great
I
love
the
the
website
I
like
the
region's
I.
Like
you
know,
the
Webster
provides
a
lot
of
really
great
information.
P
I
appreciated
the
letter
that
I'm
to
piggyback
on
on
the
other
Supes
book
tonight,
I
think
that
we
really
need
to
provide
safe
water
for
all
the
students
in
the
schools
that
have
not
yet
been
tested.
Why
would
you
want
to
risk
opening
yourself
up
to
litigation
or
or
endangering
children
if
they
happen
to
be
especially
fond
of
a
water
fixture
that
happens
to
test
what
positive
fertilize
later
so
just
some
thoughts?
Thank.
Q
J
F
So
we
have
someone
earlier
in
their
testimony
and
I've
heard
this
before
that
that's
being
reported,
that
7%
of
the
outlets
are
testing
high
for
lead
the
data
and
it's
and
it's
clearly
on
our
website-
is
that
just
slightly
over
one
point,
I
think
it's
one
point:
zero
five
percent
have
shown
high
levels
of
lead,
so
it's
a
very,
very
small
percentage
of
the
of
the
consumable
water
outlets
are
showing
high
higher
than
expected
or
higher
than
should
be
over
20
parts
per
billion,
as
dictated
by
law.
So
there
is
still
a
concern.
F
We
have
a
concern
as
the
school
says.
Any
of
you
sent
is
too
much
right
absolutely
and
we
totally
agree,
but
it
is
not
showing
that
it's
to
answer
your
question
in
a
few
more
words,
and
you
probably
wanted
it's
not
showing
any
widespread.
It
is
single
outlets
or
or
faucets
at
sinks,
in
particular
areas
around
buildings.
F
If
it
were
the
pipes
and
I
am
NOT
an
expert,
and
so
I
say
that
very
very
clearly,
but
as
I've
tried
to
get
up
to
speed
with
with
these
issues,
we
are
not
seeing
it
in,
for
instance,
down
an
entire
corridor
of
a
school
building
or
a
wing
of
a
school
building,
because
if
all
of
those
outlets
were
coming
up,
that
would
probably
say
it's
somewhere
in
the
pipes
in
the
ground
or
in
the
walls
or
floors.
And
so
it's
showing
us
that,
it's
probably
it's
looks
to
be
individual
outlets.
F
F
We
just
got
the
results
back
and
posted,
for
instance,
I,
believe
at
lyndale
and
Brooklyn
Park
middle
and
those
are
fairly
big
and
older
buildings
and
they
came
up
with
zero
as
an
example
that
doesn't
make
anybody
feel
better
when
a
building
does
have
one
or
two
or
three
outlets
that
might
be,
but
those
have
been
turned
off,
and
so
we
are,
we
are
concerned
as
well.
We
are
certainly
in
a
fight,
well,
I'm.
Sorry,
I
want
you
may
have
other
questions.
I've
got
some
other
comments.
Yes,
sir
I'm.
F
Q
F
Have
so
I
have
spoken
to
one
superintendent
and
then
our
CEO
Oh,
mr.
Scheck
Novak's,
have
talked
to
his
counterparts
and
some
of
the
school
systems
to
see
how
they've
gotten
through
the
process
in
particular
I
know,
he's
talked
to
both
Prince
George's,
County
and
Montgomery
County.
Can
we
learn
from
bigger
systems
that
have
gotten
through
this
process,
and
so
we've
learned
some
things
in
the
case
of
a
Montgomery
County,
for
instance,
they
started
the
process
earlier
than
we
did.
They
were
more
comfortable
and
starting
than
we
were
before.
The
regulations
came
out.
F
Remember
that
this
legislation
was
passed
in
April,
it
was
became
law
in
April
of
2017.
The
regulations
did
not
come
out
on
that
tells
us
how
to
do.
The
work
did
not
come
out
for
a
year
later
we
started
just
at
the
end
of
March,
because
we
had
somebody
on
a
community.
We
believed
we
knew
what
the
regulations
were.
F
We
will
want
to
have
to
go
back
and
repeat,
and
so
we
are
we,
we
believed
at
the
time
we
knew
enough,
and
so
we
started
in
March,
but
a
place
like
Montgomery
County,
twice
our
size,
206
schools
are
not
mistaken,
they
were
able,
they
got
started
earlier
and
they
were
able
to
complete
their
schools.
I.
F
Didn't
talk
directly
with
Prince
George's
County,
so
I
don't
have
that
I.
Don't
have
the
data
on
them,
but
I
know
that
they
went
through
the
process
and
were
able
to
complete
I
believe
they
published
results.
But
I
had
I
did
not
speak
directly
with
their
superintendent,
but
did
speak
with
the
superintendent
in
Montgomery
County.
F
We
began
the
process
because
we
didn't
know
the
what
the
regulations
were
going
to
state.
We
went
ahead
to
try
and
get
ahead
of
the
game
to
test
all
of
the
outlets,
so
that
could
be
not
only
a
drinking
fountain
and
a
sink
in
the
kitchen,
but
also
a
hose
bib
in
the
back
of
the
building,
for
instance,
and
so
we've
been
testing
all
of
those.
F
Now
that
we
have
the
regulations
in
hand
and
through
this
process,
starting
with
this
September,
we
are
going
to
go
to
just
the
consumable
outlets
so
that
we
can
get
through
the
buildings
quicker
and
we
can
try
and
speed
up
the
process.
So
we're
gonna
go
to
the
consumable
outlets
and
not
worry
about
those
they
exterior
hose
bibbs.
F
A
F
Pause
for
you,
the
board,
to
understand
a
CLE
for
labs.
I've
been
certified
to
do
this
work
for
this
legislation,
which
means
they
are
all
the
labs
right
now
are
overwhelmed,
because
all
the
school
systems
are
trying
to
get
through
this
process
of
not
only
testing
but
now
those
say
like
a
Montgomery
County
that
has
on
shutoff
a
water
fountain
and
replaced
it.
They
can't
turn
it
back
on
until
it
gets
retested
and
they
haven't
been
able
to
get
to
that,
because
the
labs
are
all
doing
this
work.
F
They
are
our
conversations
with
our
lab
marked.
It's
been
mentioned,
martel
lab
they've
been
they've,
been
trying
to
work
with
us.
We've
asked
them
if
they
can
speed
up
the
process,
it's
limited
by
the
number
of
technicians.
They
have
to
collect
the
water
samples.
They
have
to
be
trained
to
collect
the
water
samples
because
there
has
to
be
a
chain
of
custody.
A
well
spelled
out
documented
chain
of
custody
of
the
water
samples
and
then
once
the
water
samples
are
taken,
then
it
they
need
to
have
the
right
lab
techs
to
conduct
those
tests.
F
It
was
mentioned
earlier
testimony
that
we
have
some
schools
that
were
tested
in
April
or
May.
We
don't
have
the
results
back
and
the
answer
is
that's
correct.
Those
results
are
at
Martel
and
they're
going
to
get
to
them
as
soon
as
they
can
get
to
them.
We
have
asked
them
to.
They
could
speed
of
the
process.
They've
told
us,
they
were
they're
in
the
process
of
hiring
and
training,
more
lab
technicians,
more
collection
technicians.
F
A
This
is
a
public
hearing
on
the
superintendent's
recommended
fiscal
year,
2020,
CIP
and
capital
budget.
Those
individuals
wishing
to
testify
have
signed
the
sheet
that
I
have
before
me,
as
the
board
wants
to
hear
from
everyone
who
has
taken
the
time
to
be
here
tonight.
Three
minutes
will
be
allotted
to
each
speaker.
If
you
are
here
with
a
group
wanting
to
speak
on
the
same
subject,
I
ask
that
you
appoint
a
spokesperson
to
deliver
testimony.
Other
members
of
the
group
are
welcome
to
stand
while
testimony
is
given
the
light
in
front
of
me.
A
Will
flash
yellow
when
you
have
30
seconds
remaining
and
automa
will
be
heard
when
your
time
is
up
for
the
record,
please
give
your
name
the
spelling
of
your
name,
and
the
group
you
represent
copies
of
comments
are
welcome
and
may
be
given
to
the
board
assistant.
I
will
call
individuals
and
groups
of
five.
Please
come
up
front
and
have
a
witness
and
have
a
seat
at
the
witness
tables
you
may
speak
from
the
podium
or
from
the
tables
wherever
you
are
more
comfortable.
A
This
hearing
is
designed
so
that
the
board
can
obtain
public
input
on
the
budget
recommendation
as
opposed
to
a
back
and
forth
discussion
board.
Members
will
take
what
they
hear
tonight,
as
well
as
other
input
received
prior
to
this
hearing
and
formulate
their
thoughts
and
questions
about
the
budget
which
will
come
up
for
adoption
later
in
the
meeting
and
I
have
two
people
signed
up
for
tonight.
Kristin
itzel
and
Julie
stutter.
R
Good
evening,
dr.
Earl
Otto,
president
Hummer
and
members
of
the
board,
my
name
is
Kristen
Etzel,
a
tze
L
I
live
in
the
Old
Mill
neighborhood
and
I'm
the
organizer
of
the
fun
old
mill
school
construction
group.
To
start
I'd
like
to
thank
dr.
alato
for
including
the
initial
phase
of
design
funding
for
three
of
the
schools
in
the
old
mill
complex
master
plan
in
his
proposed
fiscal
year,
2020
budget.
This
includes
quarter
filled
elementary
rippling
woods
elementary
and
the
new
Old
Mill
West
High
School.
Thank
you.
R
I'm,
probably
a
familiar
face
to
many
members
of
the
board.
Based
on
my
previous
appearances.
However,
since
we
have
some
new
members
of
the
board,
I'll
give
a
quick
background.
I've
been
advocating
for
funding
for
the
old
mill
schools
for
two
years,
which
began
after
spending
time
in
the
open
classroom.
R
I'm
pleased
with
the
positive
feedback
I've
received,
Old
Mill
schools
were
considered
in
the
top
priority
category
in
the
independent
2006
MGT
study,
but
every
year
we've
seen
our
funding
slated
for
the
coming
years
in
the
budget
projection,
but
each
year
we've
been
pushed
off
again,
not
this
year.
It's
a
an
exciting
first
step
for
us
to
see
funding
in
the
superintendent's
proposed
budget
for
this
current
fiscal
year.
R
S
Hello
doctor
our
lotto
president
Hummer
and
members
of
the
board,
my
name
is
Julie
stutter
and
my
children
attend
to
rippling
woods
elementary
school
I,
don't
know
if
was
purposeful
or
not,
but
we
appreciate
the
blue
that
you're
wearing
tonight.
Thank
you.
I
also
have
previously
attended
board
meetings.
I've
spoken
to
the
County
Council
about
safety
concerns
of
rippling
woods.
Recently,
my
kids
came
home
from
religion
class
and
told
me
how
their
friends
who
attend
Richard,
Henry
Lee,
are
in
a
different
school
because
of
school
construction.
S
My
son
asked:
when
will
it
be
our
turn
for
new
school,
when
I
saw
the
proposed
2020
budget
I
was
psyched
to
tell
him
it's.
Finally,
our
turn
so
I'm
here
to
say
thank
you
for
including
the
initial
phase
of
design
funds
for
some
of
the
old
mill
schools.
Thank
you
for
my
children.
Thank
you
for
me
from
my
neighbors
and
from
future
old
mill
students
who
will
benefit
from
new
and
Safe
Schools.
Thank
you.
A
U
F
V
This
is
the
anticipated
additional
purchasing
requirement
if
we
have
a
typical
snow
year,
so
we
do
not
go
out
and
automatically
by
$150,000
worth
of
salt,
so
we've
got
stocks
or
piles
that
we
eat
off
of
we
utilize
those,
and
then
we
rotate
old
product
out
and
bring
new
product
in
on
an
as-needed
basis
on
a
purse
term
basis-
and
you
know,
the
utilization
rate
is
directly
linked
to
either
the
quality
or
the
quantity
or
duration
of
the
storm,
so
we're
pretty
adept
at
monitoring.
How
quickly
we're
going
through
the
inventory
that
we
have.
V
We
also
have
a
partnership
with
the
county
that
we
share
with
the
county,
either
else
or
aerosol
products
with
them
or
their
salt
products
with
us
for
spot
shortages
in
different
parts
of
the
county
to
tide
either
them
and/or
us
over
while
we're
awaiting
new
product
deliveries.
So
we've
got
a
pretty
robust
snow
removal
and
salt
replenishment
process
that
we've
worked
out
over
the
years.
A
U
T
A
W
And
I
am
the
director
of
employee
relations.
The
fiscal
authorities
for
Anne
Arundel
County
did
not
provide
sufficient
funds
in
the
FY
2019
budget
to
fully
fund
the
negotiated
agreement
between
the
Board
of
Education
and
the
Teachers
Association
of
Anne
Arundel
County.
Accordingly,
pursuant
to
provisions
of
the
education
article
and
the
TAC
negotiated
agreement,
the
parties
entered
into
renegotiations
and
successfully
reached
a
tentative
agreement
subject
to
your
approval
this
evening.
W
The
negotiating
teams
diligently
work
to
reach
an
agreement
that
best
served
the
interest
of
all
TAC
members
and
recognizes
their
commitment
to
a
no
2
County
public
school
students,
staff
and
community
I
would
like
to
thank
executive
director,
William
Jones
former
president
Richard
for
an
tak
the
negotiating
team
for
their
ongoing
partnership
with
the
board
during
the
FY
19
negotiations
period
on
September
12
2018
tack
approved
this
agreement
and
I
respectfully
request
your
approval
and
ratification
of
the
noted
summary
of
changes.
Thank
You
mr.
Jones.
X
Good
evening
I'm
bill
Jones,
I'm,
the
executive
director
and
the
chief
negotiator
for
the
Teachers
Association
of
Anne
Arundel
County,
like
my
friend
mr.
Rawls
I'd,
like
to
acknowledge
the
effort
and
the
persistence
of
Miss
Rawls
and
the
board's
team,
but
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
the
members
of
the
TAC
team.
This
is
the
second
time
that
this
agreement,
or
portions
of
it,
have
been
in
front
of
you.
X
You
voted
forward
in
June
and
then
had
to
break
it
because
of
the
lack
of
funding
and
I
know,
it's
got
to
be
a
little
frustrating
for
you
and
I
know
it
is
for
attack
and
it's
team.
We
go
through
the
same
exercise
way
too
often
negotiating
a
contract
in
good
faith
and
find
out
when
it
gets
to
Calvert
Street
resources
to
fund
it
get
axed
I
do
ask
for
your
support
and
ratification
of
this
agreement.
X
Y
W
Q
W
A
O
T
A
V
V
We're
here
to
present
item
6.03,
which
is
an
action
item
this
evening,
to
adopt
the
fiscal
year
2020
capital
budget,
as
well
as
the
six-year
plan
and
a
state
capital
improvement
plan.
As
the
board
recalls,
the
state
funding
cycle
is
out
of
sync
with
the
county
funding
cycle.
In
fact,
we
were
required
no
later
than
October
4th
of
this
year
to
remit
our
request
to
the
state
so
that
they
can
begin
their
budgetary
analysis
and
deliberations,
and
that
is
why
this
budget
is
before
you
tonight.
V
It
was
first
presented
to
this
board
on
the
12th
of
September,
and
on
that
evening
of
the
13th
we
had
an
extensive
workshop.
We
certainly
had
opportunities
to
answer
questions
that
we've
heard
public's
us
additional
public
testimony
this
evening.
The
budget
that's
before
you
has
not
changed
we're
asking
for
the
projects
in
the
same
order,
as
was
reviewed
with
you
the
evening
of
the
workshop
and
the
same
essential
amounts
from
both
the
county
agency
and
a
state
agency.
Would
that
we'll
rest
our
presentation
and
entertain
any
questions
before
might
have
mr.
AA
D
AB
AA
Then,
for
a
line
item
security
related
upgrades.
Last
year
there
was
a
1
million
dollar
funding
line
or
I
should
say.
The
current
fiscal
year
was
a
1
million
dollar
funding
line
and
then
total
we're.
Looking
at
7.45
million
$950,000
request
from
the
state
and
then
6.5
million
from
the
county.
Can
you
explain
the
rationale
behind
both
of
those
numbers,
the
county,
as
well
as
the
state
sure.
V
So
originally
we
asked
for
a
one
and
a
half
million.
We've
traditionally
asked
for
a
one
and
a
half
million
in
the
initial
budget.
It
was
adopted
by
the
county
council
in
the
current
year.
The
one
and
a
half
million
dollars
for
security
was
modest,
very
modestly,
overly
reduced
to
1
million
temporarily,
and
then
the
council,
as
you
recall
over
the
summer,
took
supplementary
budgetary
action
to
transfer
5
million
additional
dollars
to
the
Board
of
Education.
So
cumulatively
in
the
FY
19
year.
V
The
year
we
sit
here
today,
there
is
a
total
value
of
6
million
dollars
in
security
in
the
year
ahead.
The
request
that's
before
you.
It's
really
contained
of
three
separate
components.
Mr.
Gilliland,
there
is
the
original
one
and
a
half
million
dollar
request,
which
is
basically
our
standing
requests
for,
like
revolving
security
funds
to
cyclically
replace
equipment.
That's
going
out
of
day,
for
example,
the
hard
drives
for
our
camera
systems
that
record
and
store
these
security
items.
After
a
certain
number
of
years,
they
age
out,
they
have
to
be
replaced,
etc.
V
So,
there's
that
base
one
and
a
half
million
dollar
funding
level.
In
there
we
build
upon
that
by
taking
up
the
second
half
of
the
supplemental
insurance
money
to
County
Executive
Sous
announced
over
Nablus
High
School
in
the
presence
of
many
of
you
and
your
colleagues
here
and
aboard
us
evening,
so
verse,
5
million.
That's
the
second
component
of
the
two-year
5
million
5
million
announcement
that
the
county
executive
made
and
then
finally,
the
state
of
Maryland
through
a
legislation
that
was
adopted
and
completed.
V
V
So
when
the
second
half
of
the
grant
comes
through
will
have
sufficient
appropriation
authority
to
spend
it,
we
also
ensure
that
we
had
thoroughly
analyzed
the
grant
and
have
met
all
of
the
matching
funding
requirements.
There
will
be
no
issue
in
terms
of
us
being
eligible
for
the
awards
once
the
state
makes
its
way
through
that
through
their
process.
On
their
end.
Thank.
AA
You
for
that
I
just
want
to
be
clear,
because
I
think
many
of
us
were
concerned
that
we
weren't
asking
for
enough
when
it
came
to
security,
school
security,
matters
and
and
I
know,
the
public
has
been
asking
for
financial
support
there
as
well,
but
with
regard
to
the
nine
hundred
fifty
thousand,
we
are
indeed
asking
for
the
maximum
amount
that
were
allotted
for
the
state
grant.
Mr.
D
Q
Looking
at
the
six-year
plan,
it
really
is
an
exciting
part,
exciting
time
to
be
part
of
internal
County,
Public
Schools
we're
looking
at
numerous
new
high
schools
on
new
elementary
school
looking
at
2022
to
get
that
started
for
a
mountain
road
I'm.
My
question
deals
with
our
anticipated
populations.
By
the
time
these
projects
are
done
so
we're
we
have
Crofton
high.
We
have
old
mill
and
then
old
mill
west
by
the
time
those
projects
are
completed.
Q
V
So
essentially,
we
are
a
rapidly
growing
County.
No
doubt
about
that,
and
we've
got
the
projections
to
basically
show
the
students
being
layered
in
at
the
high
school
level.
Each
year
the
Crofton
high
school
will
bring
on
an
additional
17
hundred
seats
1,696.
If
you
want
to
be
exact,
the
two
old
mill
schools
together
will
have
a
total
of
34
hundred
seats.
V
V
There's
four
projects
alone,
including
the
two
old
mills
Crofton
and
the
new
West
County
high
school,
were
we're,
pushing
5,000
plus
new
seats
that
were
bringing
online
across
that
time
so
and
then
yet,
there's
more
high
school
work
to
come
after
that,
so
we're
keeping
an
eye
on
the
ball
to
try
to
put
as
much
capacity
online
as
possible.
Mr.
V
Rhinehart
I
would
I
would
caveat
that,
though,
by
saying
pending
availability
of
funds,
because
our
plan
is
completely
dependent
upon
the
sufficiency
of
amount
and
sufficiency
of
pace
of
funding
at
both
the
state
and
county
level
to
keep
the
projects
on
our
plan.
After
your
vote,
your
planned
trajectory
so.
Q
V
There's
also
gonna
be
opportunities
to
do
redistricting
too,
so
you
know
we
have
other
seats
in
the
county,
so
it's
gonna
be
not
just
not
just
straight
ground-up
construction,
so
we're
gonna
have
a
series
of
construction
and
redistricting
construction
and
radition
redistricting
to
take
advantage
of
the
new
opportunities
that
the
new
seats
will
afford.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
multi-faceted
sort
of
project
to
make
sure
we
keep
on
top
of
the
growth.
A
V
Only
the
only
two
schools
that
are
not
interlinked
per
se
are
the
two
elementary
schools
that
being
quarter
filled
and
rippling
woods
and
what
we
are
seeking
to
do
is
essentially
to
front-load
those
two
elementary
schools.
Obviously
they're
needed
they're
open
space,
they're
antiquated
front-load,
the
two
elementary
schools
and
get
them
out
of
the
way,
while
we're
finishing
the
permitting
and
design
and
getting
the
first
of
the
old
mill
schools
completed,
and
then
that
will
allow
us
to
focus
on
the
secondary
schools
and
cap
north.
At
the
same
time,
just.
A
V
Two
old
mill
high-
we
anticipate
by
saying
we're-
probably
not
probably-
and
certainly
the
leaders
in
the
state
knees
of
prototype
designs.
We
are
by
far
in
terms
of
the
use
and
the
precedent-setting
nature
of
this
county,
we've
the
highest
percentage
and
have
for
a
very
long
period
of
time.
We
fully
intend
on
constructing
both
High
School's,
Old,
Mill,
West
and
East,
as
prototypes
and
both
middle
schools,
Old
Mill
middle
north
and
south
as
part
of
types
and
the
two
elementary
schools
again.
V
Should
a
feasibility
study
depict
them
as
being
new
schools
and
again
considering
the
flight
path
and
some
other
considerations,
that's
highly
likely.
Both
elementary
schools
will
be
prototypes.
So
the
only
project
out
of
the
old
mill
study
that
will
not
be
a
prototype
will
be
our
cat
North
facility.
However,
we
have
already
had
extensive
conversations
with
Montgomery
County.
V
They
just
they
constructed
the
most
recent
ground-up
very,
very
nice,
and
some
staff
have
already
toured
and
we
intend
to
learn
a
lot
from
their
new
facility
that
they
just
put
up
in
Dorchester
County,
put
up
a
Technology
Center
about
three
or
four
years
ago,
so
we're
gonna.
We
haven't
put
a
Technology
Center
here
in
quite
a
long
time.
I
think
at
North
was
mid-1975,
I
think
something
of
that
nature.
So
we
have
a
lot
to
learn,
we're
very
good
at
the
elementary
schools
we've.
V
A
V
V
We
have
less
chance
of
having
errors
and
emissions
it
gets
through
permitting
quicker
because
the
second
time,
the
second
prototype
that
goes
through
to
reviewing
authorities,
look
at
it,
and
so
I've
already
seen
this
before
you
know
all
the
kinks
in
a
way
have
been
worked
out
of
it
from
the
regulatory
code
perspective,
certainly
because
it's
a
prototype
building
ground
up
that
doesn't
mean
that
the
ground
underneath
or
where
utilities
come
in.
There
are
some
things
that
need
to
be
adjusted,
but
it
does
save
time.
V
Q
V
Tbd
when
we
get
to
that
to
that
point,
but
certainly
we
do
most
of
our
buildings,
we
contemplate
expansion
of
them,
so
we
pre
position
some
assets,
the
central
plant.
We
run
some
bulk
means
for
water
supply
for
sewage
return.
Things
like
that,
so
we
anticipate
the
eventualities
to
some
goings
may
need
to
expanded.
We
also
anticipate
the
eventualities
that
the
building
may
possibly
need
portable,
real
okoto,
shrooms
and
wheat
pre
position
assets
in
our
buildings
to
support
the
potential
eventualities
of
them
having
portables
there
as
well.
V
Q
V
Because
because
you're
gonna
be
building
two
schools
about
three
to
four
years,
some
parts
of
storing
an
entire
high
school's
worth
of
materials
for
four
years:
hey
where
you're
gonna
put
it
there's
a
chance
that
it
could.
You
know,
degrade
or
something
like
that.
So
when
you're,
for
example,
for
building
the
two
elementary
prototypes
and
are
in
the
same
time
in
the
same
phase,
bulk
purchasing
makes
a
lot
more
sense
to
state
of
Maryland
when
they
passed
the
21st
century
school
facilities
bill
or
the
NOC
commission's
recommendations.
V
It
actually
gave
Ellie
a
Zanu
tool
to
encourage
things
like
purchasing
consolidating
projects
etcetera.
So
we
have
effective
July
1
of
18
l
EA
s
have
more
tools
that
at
proverbial
toolbox
that
we
previously
did
to
start
leveraging
additional
economies
of
scale
and
things
like
that,
and
we
absolutely
intend
to
employ
those
to
the
best
of
our
abilities
when
all
these
projects
so.
Q
A
T
A
A
Q
It's
I'm
gonna,
be
that
guy
today
aren't
I.
Yes,
alright!
So
looking
over
your
2020
plan,
I
see
that
North
County
High
School
has
a
five
million
dollar
investment
in
new
chillers
and
other
HVAC
equipment,
but
is
my
understanding
that
we
invested
quite
a
bit
of
money
in
North
County
last
year
with
some
issues
of
HVAC?
Could
you
speak
to
that.
V
Sure
so
North
County
High,
School
astronomers
is
built
in
phases,
as
you
know,
it
wasn't
all
constructed
and
put
in
and
all
the
equipment
wasn't
put
in
at
one
single
time
there.
So
like
many
of
those
buildings
that
are
phased
or
go
across
time,
the
equipment
is
equipment
has
an
expected
life
expectancy
and
we
try
to
match
the
reinvestment
or
the
replacement
of
that
equipment
with
the
coterminous
with
the
expiration
of
that
equipments
expiration
date.
If
we
replace
it
sooner
than
that,
we
basically
lose
value.
V
So,
for
example,
if
we
bought
a
20-year
chiller
I'm,
just
making
up
an
example
to
keep
things
simple,
but
if
it
was
a
still
good
working
order,
why
replace
it?
In
year
17
we
will
be
leaving
three
years
of
value
of
that
unit
on
a
table.
So
with
the
limited
resources
we
have,
we
we
do
try
to
right
time
right
place
now.
Obviously,
again
in
my
hypothetical
example,
if
you
have
a
20
year
machine,
it
could
suffer
premature
failure.
It
could
have
a
lightning
strike
that
the
nice
you
know
knocks
it
out.
V
Q
V
It
was
that
was
all
related
to
a
extreme
cold
weather
condition,
largely
which
isn't
predictable
we're
sitting
right
now.
In
the
middle
of
the
rainiest
year,
we've
probably
gonna
go
down
as
the
rainiest
year.
We've
ever
had
in
a
statement
in
the
state
of
Maryland
so
about
that
was
so
more
of
a
weather-related
function
than
a
lack
of
attention
to
the
equipment
issue
were.
V
Typically
again,
you
know,
most
equipment
really
does
have
nowadays
equipments
made
rather
well,
and
if
the
equipment
has
a
scheduled
amount
of
run
hours
or
life
cycle
on,
if
most
equipment
does
tend
to
make
that
so
absent
a
a
weather,
kind
of
condition,
a
power
surge
condition.
Something
like
that.
We
typically
don't
have
what
week
term
is
premature
failures,
so.
Q
Q
V
Could
do
two
things
one?
It
could
potentially
extend
the
life
of
equipment
so
going
back
to
my
hypothetical
example,
if
you,
if
you
treat
equipment,
if
you
treat
it
well-
and
it's
designed
the
last
twenty,
you
may
get
twenty
to
twenty
three,
you
get
more
value
for
your
initial
investment.
If
you
treated
poorly
there's
a
potential,
you
can
have
a
premature
failure
so
doing
preventive
maintenance
will
ensure
that
it
at
least
gets
to
its
expected
life
and
possibly
get
some
more
expected
life
out
of
it.
That's
one
piece.
V
The
second
piece
really
has
to
do
with
energy
efficiencies
so
to
the
extent
that
its
proper,
properly
lubricated,
properly
balance,
etc
its
operating
at
a
more
efficient
level
and
therefore
you're
using
less
utility
consumption
within
that
unit.
If
you're
not
doing
that,
the
unit's
go
running,
it's
so
cooling,
but
it's
running
less
efficiently
and
therefore
expense
you're,
paying
is
you're
paying
more
utility
costs
because
you've
invested
less
human
capital
into
that.
You
know
so.
Q
V
V
There's
two
pieces
of
it:
the
personnel
that
attend
to
maintenance
in
the
county
comes
in
our
operating
budget.
The
actual
physical
assets
are
largely
co-funded
by
both
the
county
and
on
items
of
buildings
that
are
eligible
for
state
participation.
We
try
to
receive
state
funding
for
those
items
for
items
that
are
eligible
for
state
participation
that
the
component
replacement
level
we
typically
yield.
Maybe
forty
five
percent,
or
so
from
the
state
to
County,
has
to
do
the
other.
Fifty
five
percent
for
items
that
are
ineligible
for
state
participation.
V
AA
AA
My
question
actually
mister
Reinhardt's
questions.
A
series
of
questions
made
me
think
of
this.
The
reports
that
earlier
this
week
we
were
reading
about
University
of
Maryland
College
Park
with
the
excessive
rain.
You
know
more
or
less
what
turned
out
to
be
a
mode
outbreak
in
you
had
referenced
the
excessive
rain
that
we've
received
to
the
extent
possible
and
I
know
you
can
never
be
100%
sure,
but
just
so
you
know
whether
it's
a
staffing
related
issue
or
or
just
any
other
way
that
we
can
be
pre-emptive.
You.
AA
V
Absolutely
I
mean
again,
I
think
a
lot
of
it.
So
the
answer
to
that
is
yes,
I
mean
buildings
are
checked
each
and
every
day
when
we
believe
we
have
exposures.
Mr.
Crawford
and
mr.
McCaffrey
you,
mr.
Endres,
from
our
operations
unit
we
go
out
and
do
weekend.
Checks
will
check
buildings
on
holidays
before
we
open
up
the
school
the
next
day,
so
we're
very
proactive
in
that
regard,
I
mean
every
every
building
system
basically
has
a
design
capacity.
I,
don't
care
if
it's
heating
I
don't
care.
V
If
it's
it's
cooling
or
I,
don't
care
if
it's
dehumidification.
So
when,
when
you,
when
the
climatic
conditions
exceed
the
design
capacities,
the
pre
contemplated
design
capacities
for
a
building,
you
always
have
the
chance
to
stress
the
system
out,
so
we
know
basically
to
what
to
what
level
to
what
capacity
or
building
service
they're,
not
all
designed
together.
We
have
older
buildings,
newer
buildings,
as
you
can
well
imagine,
and
so
you
know
we
know,
depending
on
the
exterior
conditions,
be
they
temperature,
dew,
point
humidity,
etc.
A
One
thing
I
noticed
in
the
plan
that
stood
out
to
me
was
the
great
work
by
your
energy
conservation
office
that
they've
received
a
million
dollars
in
utility
incentives
and
rebates
which
is
fabulous
and
that
because
of
upgrades
and
improvement
and
lighting
and
the
HVAC
systems
we're
saving
three
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
year.
That's
that's
great
hats
off
to
your
team
for
that
great
savings
that
we
have
there.
A
A
Each
year
that
we're
underfunded
on
that
all
of
this
backlog
gets
pushed
back
more.
So
if
we,
if
it's
funded
at
the
rate,
we
want
it
to
be
for
that
we're
asking
for
the
next
five
years,
then
we're
going
to
keep
up
and
reduce
this
maintenance
backlog,
but
every
year
that
it's
underfunded,
everything
gets
pushed
back
more
and
more
so
that
nine
million
a
year
that's
significant,
more
things
that
we're
delaying
and
trying
to
stretch
for
another
year
or
things
like
that
sure.
V
So
portion
of
it
was
moved
forward
that
accounts
for
nine
million,
but
each
and
every
year
more
items
reach
that
scheduled
life
psych
end
of
life
kind
of
event,
so
you've
got
the
new
items
that
are
on
the
list,
plus
the
carryover
from
the
last
year.
That's
the
second
piece
and
then
in
in
times
like
now
or
we've
got
pricing,
inflation,
three
point,
seven
four
percent,
or
so
in
the
in
the
consumer
market.
Right
now,
the
cost
of
the
individual
items
per
item
go
up
as
well.
V
A
As
mr.
Reinhart
said,
you
know,
additional
preventative
maintenance
staff
would
be
a
down
payment
for
savings
in
the
future
and
receiving
appropriate
funding
from
the
county
to
meet.
These
goals
saves
us
in
the
future
too,
because,
as
you
said,
cost
go
up
so
the
sooner
we
can
do
things
if
we
do
it
the
price.
Today,
it's
going
to
be
less
expensive
than
the
price
in
two
years
right.
V
And
in
the
state
is
very,
the
state
is
very
mindful
of
that
as
well.
The
state
the
state
will
not
participate
in
funding
of
the
replacement
of
ill
maintained
equipment.
So
if,
if
we
have
a
project-
and
we
put
in
mr.
Reinhart-
began
to
to
go
down
this
road,
if
we
put
in
for
a
project
all
capital
projects
are
line-item
appropriated
I
mean
the
state
looks
at
our
justification
level.
They
look
at
the
age
of
the
equipment
on
occasion,
Dolson
inspectors
out
to
look
at
our
assets
before
they'll,
decide
whether
to
fund
them
or
not.
V
If
they
are
of
the
belief
that
we
did
not
properly
maintain
it
that
we
that
the
equipment
failed
for
reasons
that
were
not,
for
example,
a
BG&E
voltage
spike,
that's
an
act
of
god.
None
of
us
could
have
essentially
prevented
it
could
put
us
also
in
a
potential
for
the
state
not
participating
in
it.
So
we
are
very
diligent
and
maintaining
the
equipment
because
again
15
20
X
years
down
a
road.
We
don't
want
to
jeopardize
the
potential
of
that
equipment
being
co-funded
by
the
state
to
the
extent
that
it
is
an
eligible.
V
AC
V
Back
absolutely
as
we
carry,
we
carry
that
the
liability
for
the
preventive
maintenance
activities
in
a
building.
We
carry
that
liability
in
the
comprehensive
maintenance
plan
once
the
project
once
the
project's
brought
online,
then
all
of
the
deferred
maintenance
for
that
project
all
goes
gets
backed
out,
so
the
comprehensive
replacement
or
reconstruction
etc
of
a
school
does
help
make
inroads,
because
it
essentially
eradicate
the
deferred
liability
of
that
older,
pre-existing
building.
Okay,.
V
A
T
A
A
AA
T
D
A
A
The
board
will
now
move
towards
being
comprised
of
seven
nonpartisan
elected
members,
one
member
from
each
of
the
seven
council
Manek
districts
in
Anne,
Arundel
County
and
one
student
member,
the
first
four
elected
board
members
will
take
office
on
December
3rd
2018
and
the
remaining
three
elected
members
will
take
office
on
December
7
2020.
In
light
of
these
changes,
the
board
will
engage
in
discussion
on
two
policies
for
possible
revision
in
the
future
policies:
BB
D
and
B
F
and.
Q
Considering
we
have
what's
going
to
be
a
a
mixed,
Board
of
appointed
and
elected
and
that
folks
have
been
brought
on
at
different
times
whether
it
makes
more
sense
to
have
elections
immediately
after
a
board
is
seated
or
if
it
makes
more
sense
to
match
it
up
with
our
school
calendar.
It
to
start
it
on,
say,
July
1st,
so
we're
having
this
discussion
of
public
about
what
would
be
the
the
pros
and
cons
for
those
two
situations.
Y
Would
I
would
just
say
that
our
board
has
always
elected
our
officers
immediately
upon
seating
in
July?
We
always
have
turnover
in
July
and
if
the
turnover
is
now
going
to
occur
in
December,
certainly
by
December
of
2020,
we'll
have
the
cycle.
You
know
in
place,
I
think
at
some
point
there
needs
to
be
a
transition
year,
where
you're
electing
your
officers
in
July
say
like
July
of
2019
next
July,
but
those
people
serve
for
18
months
to
get
us
to
December
of
2020.
Y
When
you'll
be
on
this
new
cycle
of
elected
board
members
or
you
could
do
it
the
same
thing.
You
know
July
of
2020,
you
elect
their
officers
for
18
months
and
by
December
of
2021.
Your
new
board
has
been
here
for
a
year.
They
the
deal,
you
know
they
they
can
decide
if
they
want
to
serve
as
officers
I,
don't
think
it.
You
know,
I
have
a
preference
either
way.
I
won't
be
here,
but
I
think
I
think
we
should
align
the
officer
elections
with
the
seating
of
the
board.
Mr.
Brannon.
A
AD
AD
When
I
first
came
on
the
board
in
2007,
it
took
me
a
full
year
to
really
learn
everything
I
needed
to
know.
I
didn't
want
to
be
my
board
officer.
I
wanted
to
learn
and
I
wanted
to
know
and
I.
Think
then,
whether
they're
elected
appointed
or
whatever,
when
a
board
member
comes
in,
they
aren't
immediately
ready
to
be
a
board
officer.
They
really
do
need
that
time.
So
I
think
it's
important
whatever.
AD
AD
Q
So
I
I
hear
two
sets
of
two
sets
of
concerns
and
it's
true
from
what
I've
heard
so
far.
It
seems
that
we're
leaning
towards
changing
elections
to
after
the
seating
of
new
members,
I
I,
see
just
sort
of
play
devil's
advocate
here,
so
we
have
two
two
situations
that
could
arise
in
when
we
have
a
completely
elected
board.
There's
the
potential
that
every
single
person
is
new
and
we
will
have
to
elect
leadership
among
all
those
folks
who
are
on
a
possible
potentially
unaware
of
the
processes
behind
the
scenes
here
at
a
CPS.
Q
So
I
was
thinking,
okay,
so
we'll
start
in
July.
But
if
we
had
that
election
in
July
before
the
general
election
and
they
get
ousted,
then
we're
back
in
the
same
situation
just
as
I
was
considering
well,
perhaps
because
of
how
we
set
the
budget
and
our
capital
improvements,
and
we
set
our
goals
for
the
superintendent.
All
of
that
happens
early
on
in
the
school
year,
and
perhaps
it
makes
more
sense
to
have
leadership
seated
in
July,
so
they
can
see
the
whole
year
through.
Well,
then,
we
run
into
that
issue
again.
Q
Y
Q
AB
Leave
the
policy
as
those
than
your
officers
or
officers
I
mean.
Ultimately,
you
decide
to
revise
your
policy
in
some
way
and
I'm:
sorry,
jeanette,
ortiz,
legislative
and
policy
council
for
the
record.
So
if
you,
when
you
update
your
policy
once
you've
revised
it,
then
you
would
follow
through
you.
Can
you
indicated
a
sunset
provision
or
we
could
do
a
a
delayed?
AC
Yeah
I
guess
the
more
I
think
about
this,
especially
since
we're
no
matter
what
gonna
end
up
in
a
system
where
the
elections
take
place
after
the
board,
members
are
seated.
That's
what's
happening,
the
more
I
think
about
that.
The
more
I
think
about
the
aura,
or
you
know
the
impression
that's
going
to
be
given
to
the
new
board
members
as
well
as
to
the
public.
If
we
try
to
hold
that
at
bay
as
long
at
pasa
as
long
as
possible.
AC
That
seems
like
really
frightening
ly
undemocratic
in
the
face
of
what
the
legislature
is
doing
to
say.
Well,
we're
gonna
hold
off
on
that,
because
we
think
that
people
who
have
been
in
office
longer
know
better
and
so
we're
gonna
make
their
tenures
stickier
I.
Think
even
after
hearing
this
I'd
more
even
more
strongly
feel
that
we
should
make
the
case
that
the
elections
should
should
occur
right
after
this
December.
AC
We're
gonna
hold
that
at
bay
and
then
you
know
it
doesn't
matter
to
me
who
these
people
are,
but
obviously
the
two
officers
that
we
have
now
are
both
candidates
for
the
board
and
should
they
not
win
their
elections,
we're
saying
well,
no.
We
still
want
these
people
to
the
officers
of
the
board,
even
though
they
didn't
win
their
elections.
That's
entirely
undemocratic,
so
I,
don't
know
if
you're
planning
to
do
this
by
consensus
or
not,
but
I
would
not
support
that,
and
in
that
event,
I
would
like
to
vote
on
that.
We're.
A
Q
A
two-point
mr.
Grint
and
you've
mentioned
in
in
earlier
comments
that
we
should
give
the
incumbents
an
opportunity
to
make
their
case
as
well
as
the
new
board
members
I
believe
that
could
occur
in
January
or
in
July.
They
would
both
have
that
that
that
same
in
that
six
months
would
give
folks
an
experience.
I
certainly
hear
your
concerns,
and
with
with
going
back
to
the
policy
committee,
there
will
be
opportunity
for
public
comment:
justice
with
all
of
our
other
policies,
as
we
enjoy
a
discussion
about
sunscreens
in
just
a
few
minutes.
Q
So
there
will
be
an
opportunity
to
hear
from
the
public
and
also
to
cast
a
vote
and
share
on
that,
but
the
yeah
it's,
but
if
I
understand
correctly
score
black.
So
we
would
this
the
second,
the
other.
So
you
so
you
were
proposed
to
say
eight
eighteen
months
rather
than
a
twelve
month
in
a
six
month.
But
what's
what's
the
what's?
The
rationale
for
eighteen
versus
a
potential
six-month.
Y
I
was
trying
to
get
us
to
December
of
2020,
because
I
thought
it
was
too
late
to
change
our
officers
for
the
year.
So
I
thought
the
election
from
July
of
2018
was
going
curious
to
2019
July
of
2019,
no
matter
what,
and
so
we
could
have
an
election
of
in
July
of
2019
for
six
months,
but
there
isn't
another
election
until
December
of
2020.
So
the
new
folks
from
December
of
2018
will
have
been
there
six
months
and
they
can
certainly
run
for
officers
or
elect
the
ones
that
they
prefer.
Q
AC
I
think
a
very
important
point
that
miss
cor
black
was
making.
Is
you
had
thought
that,
but
then
miss
ortiz
disabuse?
You
of
that?
So
that's
a
very
important
importance.
Not
so
subtle
point
that
we
should
get
across.
Is
it
very
very
easily
could
be
changed
in
this
policy
by
this
board
to
make
the
election,
for
example,
in
January,
in
which
case
we
would
just
then
have
annual
elections
in
January
right
after
the
members
are
seated
each
December,
so
we
would
be
completely
on
cycle
we'd
have
it.
AC
We
wouldn't
have
to
go
to
some
18
months
officership
to
make
it
even
longer.
We
would
have
an
election
in
January
and
then
we
would
have
another
in
January,
2019
and
we'd
have
another
election
in
January
2020,
then
whoever
comes
on
in
December
of
2020
is
eligible
to
run
in
the
next
annual
election
of
January
2021.
So
we're
totally
on
cycle
well,.
A
A
AC
AE
We
have
a
vacancy
right
now.
Currently,
let's
just
say
that
this
is
filled
within
the
next
couple
of
days,
for
whatever
reason,
so
we
would
have
a
new
board
number.
Does
that
mean
that
we
would
then
have
to
under
your
suggestion
we?
Why
not?
You
would
have
a
new
person
that
would
within
that
to
say
well,
I
didn't
agree
to
the
membership
before
I
should
have
an
opportunity
to
weigh
in
on
I.
Could.
AC
Probably
do
the
job
better,
because
in
an
ad-hoc
resignation
or
incapacitation
of
a
board
member
that
leads
to
a
replacement
is
one
person.
What
we're
talking
about
is
setting
forth,
basically,
the
Constitution
for
how
this
board
is
going
to
elect
its
officers,
and
we
were
debating
back
and
forth
between
proposals,
and
it
was
made
abundantly
clear
through
mr.
Rhinehart's
questioning
and
I
think
accurate
description
that
no
matter
what
we
are
going
to
get
to
a
position
where
this
board
elects
its
leadership
immediately
after
the
board
is
seated.
AC
The
only
question
is
how
soon
we're
going
to
get
there
and
what
I
was
suggesting
is,
it
seems,
a
little
undemocratic
to
say.
Well,
we
know
that's
going
to
happen.
That's
going,
to
wit,
be
the
way
that
this
board
elects
its
officers
in
2038
and
in
2058,
but
we
want
to
hold
that
at
bay
a
little
bit
longer
so
that
our
officers
who
have
been
in
office
longer,
we
think
they
know
better,
and
we
want
to
make
their
positions
as
sticky
as
possible
and
I.
AC
AE
There
any
final
question:
is
there
any
consideration
on
the
fact
that
that's
still
in
the
middle
of
the
school
year?
Is
that
any
consideration,
whether
it's
December
January,
it's
still
the
middle
of
the
school
year?
Is
there
any
consideration
to
that
at
all,
as
opposed
to
having
continuous
leadership
during
the
entire
school
year?
For.
AC
Me
personally,
as
I'm
talking
about
this.
No
because
I
I
mean
I,
certainly
think
if
we're
saying
that
the
election
of
the
president
of
the
board
is
going
to
be
something
that's
going
to
be.
What
harmful
to
students
in
the
middle
of
the
school
year
to
have
that
kind
of
change.
I
kind
of
hope
that
the
students
are
in
school
or.
AC
AB
AE
AC
Me
make
it
abundantly
clear
is
nothing
I'm
saying
is,
was
meant
to
imply
that
to
be
fine,
whoever
the
president
is
for
is
that
that's
going
to
be
harmful
to
students.
I,
certainly
don't
think
that's
the
case
from
the
current
officers
or
any
officers
that
I
can
imagine
what
I'm
saying
is
it's
undemocratic
for
us
as
a
public
institution
to
say
we
know
it's
coming
that
we're
going
to
have
the
election
of
officers
immediately
after
the
board.
Members
are
seated
we're
gonna
try
to
hold
that
off
as
soon
as
possible.
AE
AC
AE
We've
already
started
that
that's
was
the
question:
was
there
any
consideration
at
all
in
terms
of
any
of
these
various
policies
of
that
these
elections?
Everything
that's
taking
place,
whether
it's
December
to
January,
it's
fun
to
be
in
the
middle
of
the
school
year.
That's
thought
this
is
an
observation,
not
a.
AE
Y
Just
gonna
say
we
can't
guarantee
the
continuity
of
the
president
and
vice
president
in
election
years,
because,
as
mr.
Reinhart
pointed
out,
the
whole
board
could
be
wiped
out
in
an
election
year,
which
is
also
why
I
would
say,
December
had
to
be
the
election,
it's
January
by
policy,
because
at
some
point
there
could
be
no
one
here
in
December.
D
Q
Mr.
riah
I'd
like
to
apologize
for
an
oversight,
in
fact
the
student
member
Woodbridge,
so
we
as
a
fully
what
was
as
a
member
with
full
voting
voting
rights
on
this
board.
Yes,
you
could
be
perhaps
that
would
solve
our
problem.
Mr.
Grandin
is
the
student
member
could
oversee
for
a
for
a
few
weeks
until
we
get
the
new
leader,
yeah
go
on
the
resume,
so
perhaps
perhaps
then
we
we
can
come
to
a
compromise.
Q
It
seems
that
that
we
are
in
agreement
that
we're
gonna
go
to
or
that
we're
we're
gonna
in
policy
committee,
where
we're
gonna
propose
for
this
board
to
vote
on
that
we
will
go
to
elections.
We're
officers
of
the
board
immediately
upon
seating
when
we're
fully
elected,
so
I
think
we're
in
agreement
on
that.
Mr.
Gillan,
you
good
yeah
all
right
and
with
so
we're
really
limited
now
to
the
next
next
set
of
months.
Q
Mr.
Grandin
suggests
that
we
can.
We
can
start
in
January,
19
or
December
9
at
December
18,
and
we
hear
other
members
suggesting
well.
Let's,
let's
do,
let's
do
a
longer,
a
longer
stretch,
or
at
least
keep
this
and
keep
this
leadership
in
place
and
I'm,
not
sure
it's.
You
know
it's
it's
to
make
the
position
sticky
as
much.
It
is
just
to
offer
continuity.
We
do
I.
Q
There
was
the
expectation
when
this
board
voted
that
the
officers
would
be
in
place
for
12
months.
We
all
we
all
voted
with
that
understanding.
Miss
Ortiz
has
has
since
disabused
us.
That's
a
fun
word
has
since
disabused
us
of
that.
It's
not
fun
but
but
we're.
How
do
we
feel
as
a
board
as
as
mixed,
appointed
and
elected
to
start
those
elections,
then,
in
December
of
nineteen.
A
Q
AC
A
AC
You
know
for
the
for
the
accuracy
of
the
record
I
want
everyone
makes
sure
its
abundant
clear
was
saying
when
I
said:
January
I
don't
want
there
to
be
any
semantics
about
this
I
mean
as
soon
as
possible
after
the
selection
of
these
members
and
I
guess
I
just
I
want
to
you
know
reiterate.
You
know,
especially
we're
talking
about
different
permutations
here
now
with
officers
who
are
up
for
election,
who
are
going
to
be
I,
guess
potentially
even
voting
on
this,
and
just
the
appearance
of
that
we
could
defer
this
decision.
A
Well,
I
want
to
address
what
you're
saying,
because
I
think
it
will
answer
some
of
what
you're
saying
so
the
way
the
the
timing
on
this
remark
we're
having
this
discussion.
Now
it
would
go
to
the
policy
committee
to
be
drafted.
It
would
have
come
before
the
mr.
Ortiz
make
sure
that
I'm
saying
this
correctly.
It
would
come
before
this
board
for
the
existing
seated
board
for
first
reading
and
then
go
out
to
the
public
for
public
comment.
Second
and
third
reading
because
of
the
timing,
would
fall
under
the
new
newly
elected
board.
A
AC
I
decided
rebut
that
entirely
and
I.
Don't
think
what
you
just
said
was
at
all
an
appropriate
clarification
of
the
point
that
I
was
making
is.
We
would
absolutely
be
setting
in
motion
yeah,
but
there
is
no
reason
not
to
do
this
in
December
after
the
new
board
is
seated.
Why
set
this
in
motion?
Why
make
it
that
much
harder
for
them
to
change?
Something,
there's,
no
reason
that
this
board
has
to
do
that.
The
new
board
can
make
this
decision
in
December.
Mr.
AB
This
current
board
pushed
forward
as
a
proposed
revisions
to
the
policy
that
they
would
have
the
opportunity
to
make
any
amendments
on
second
and
third
reading,
so
it
would
go
to
the
new
board,
which
would
be
comprised
of
at
least
some
new
members
on
second
and
third
meeting,
and
you
have
the
ability
to
amend
a
policy
on
second
and
third
readings,
so
that
would
not
be
that
wouldn't
be
any
different
than
the
way
we're
doing
it
now.
Mr.
AC
Granick,
it
would
be
entirely
different
to
set
in
place
something
that
a
new
board
it's
and
then
incumbent
upon
them
to
change
something.
That's
already
in
motion,
there's
no
reason
that
has
to
be
done
now.
What
is
that?
What
is
the?
What
is
depressing
me
that
this
has
to
be
done
at
the
end
of
September
set
in
motion,
now
that
we
have
to
do
this
when
this
decision
could
be
made
in
December
by
a
new
board
with
people?
AC
It's
like
we're
like
reacting
to
this,
that
somehow
elected
board
members
are
like
an
evil
to
be
delayed
as
long
as
possible.
The
legislature
put
this
in
place,
but
people
voted
for
the
legislature.
The
people
will
be
voting
for
these
board
members.
It
is
absolutely
undemocratic
for
us
to
make
put
any
impediment
and
in
their
way
for
them
to
have
a
full
influence
on
this.
So
there's
no
reason
to
have
a
first
reading.
AC
Now,
let's
defer
this
until
December
and
then
we
can
then
that
board
can
make
the
determination-
and
in
particular,
when
we're
dealing
with
the
situation,
where
officers
are
now
potentially
voting
on
their
own
continuity
in
officership,
when
they're,
not
even
members
of
the
board
anymore
and
financially
benefit
from
having
the
office
or
positions.
I
think
it's
in
tight
it
just
it
just
reeks
of
the
idea
that
we
want
to
do
something
to
keep
the
elected
board
at
bay
and
it's
not
necessary.
Mr.
Q
Q
AB
The
policy
would
not
come
before
the
full
board
with
the
proposed
revisions
until
the
second
meeting
in
January
or
the
first
meeting
in
January.
It
depends
on
how
the
calendar
runs,
but
sometime
in
January.
So
then
it
would
come
before
the
full
board
in
January.
It
would
go
on
a
30-day
public
comment
period.
It
would
take
us
into
February
and
then,
depending
on
where
that
falls
on
the
calendar,
the
it
would
be
on
second
meeting
either
in
February
or
March.
So
we're
not
looking
any
earlier
than
March
before
then.
Q
It
is
with
respect
to
that
that
timeline
and
that,
in
the
new
board,
that
we
are
having
this
discussion
now
to
give
the
new
board
the
option
as
early
as
possible
to
hold
elections
if
they
wish,
were
we're
trying
to
respect
with
our
proposal
and
with
our
timeline
the
new
board,
including
those
elected
members.
So
the
insinuation
that
we
are
trying
to
hold
off
elected
members
from
leadership
at
no
time
will
this
board
that
is
currently
seated
before
you
have
a
vote
on
this
policy.
We
will
never
have
a
vote
on
this
policy.
AA
AA
To
do
this,
that
you
get
and
I
know
you're
losing
a
boatload
of
money
by
serving
on
this
board
I'm
losing
a
boatload
of
money
by
serving
on
this
board
and
to
sit
here
and
say
that
I'm
doing
this
because
I
have
some
sort
of
financial
benefit
is
to
me
insulting.
So,
with
all
due
respect,
I
resent
that
sir.
AC
Well,
with
all
due
respect,
I
think
I've
known
you
for
eight
years
and
if
that's
the
way
you
took
that
and
I,
don't
think
you
know
me
very
well
at
all
what
I
said
was
the
impression
that
it
gives
the
public
to
have
people
who
are
in
office
or
positions
voting
on
something
that
could
affect
their
continuity
in
that
position
gives
it
raises
an
aura
of
impropriety.
Has
nothing.
AC
Now
the
process
point
that
you
made
if,
if
what
you're
saying
is
correct
in
terms
of
giving
me
the
new
board
an
opportunity
to
vote
on
that,
that's
fine
I
have
no
problem
with
that
in
terms
of
starting
this
now,
but
what
you
said
was
baking
into
the
into
the
first
reading
of
that
policy.
This
idea
of
a
compromise
that
the
next
election
would
be
in
July
of
2019
I
do
have
a
problem
with
that.
AC
If
we're
going,
if
we're
so
eager
to
give
the
new
board
an
opportunity
to
influence
this
as
soon
as
possible,
let's
not
blow
in
those
dice,
so
I'm
talking
about
the
substance
of
what
you're
saying,
not
the
process.
If
we're
doing
this
to
give
the
new
board,
you
know
immediate
influence
from
the
get-go,
then
don't
bake
into
it.
This
idea
that
the
election
should
be
in
July
of
2019,
because
that
rubs
against
that.
A
AE
Just
wanted
you
to
clarify,
because
I
didn't
think
we're
taking
any
vote.
I,
don't
and
I.
Also,
don't
think
that
we
need
to
have
the
type
of
tension
for
this
we're
just
trying
to
get
it
right.
So
I,
don't
think
it's
really
that
big
of
a
deal
for
us
to
start
talking
about
people
being
undemocratic
and
all
that
other
stuff.
So
let's
just
kind
of
keep
everything
aboveboard.
D
A
I
do
want
to
bring
in
I
think
something
that
needs
to
be
added
to
this
policy,
because
there's
currently
nothing
nothing.
The
current
policy
states
that,
if
the
president
or
vice
president,
are
temporarily
unavailable
to
quit
their
above
responsibilities,
but
there's
nothing
in
there
that
says
that
that
talks
about
how,
for
instance,
if
a
board
officer
resigns,
there's
no
mechanism
in
there
for
how
aboard
the
board
officers
would
be
replaced
and
I
think
that
needs
to
be
added.
I.
Think
the
policy
committee
needs
to
look
at
that
language
and
see
what
that
would
be.
Q
A
There's
nothing
in
the
policy
that
says
what
we
would
do.
It
says
if
the
president
is
not
available,
that
the
vice
president
steps
in,
but
there's
nothing
to
say
that
if
a
position
becomes
vacant,
what,
if
the
vice
president
resigns,
there's
not
an
immediate
person
to
fill
their
spot,
so
I
think
we
need
to
add
to
the
policy
to
have
some
sort
of
mechanism
to
fill
possible
vacancies
at
some
point
for
how
they
would
handle
those
things.
So,
mr.
Y
AB
AC
Think
if
we're
gonna
be
doing
that,
another
thing
that
we
can
do-
and
it
sounds
like
the
policy
committee-
is
the
right
place
to
do.
This
is
let's
also
examination,
let's
also
examine
the
powers
of
the
officers,
especially
as
we're
going
to
a
fully
elected
board,
and
if
there
are
concerns
about
people
having
those
positions
who
perhaps
don't
have
the
same
experiences,
the
people
who
have
them
now
and
it.
AC
Inevitably,
it's
going
to
be
the
case
that
you
could
easily
have
a
president,
and
vice
president
who've
had
zero
experience
of
the
board,
in
particular
because
of
that,
and
because
of
the
things
that
go
along
with
having
an
elected
board
as
a
board
as
opposed
to
an
appointed
board.
For
example,
things
like
the
the
president
of
the
board
being
able
to
basically
set
the
agenda
for
the
public
meetings
if
he
or
see
if
he
or
she
so
chooses
without
input
from
the
other
board
members.
AC
That's
something
we
should
consider
this
board
put
in
place
over
my
objection
and
over
my
vote,
something
which
seems
you
know
really
kind
of
silly
and
petty
and
arbitrary
that
the
president
determines
where
people
sit
up
on
the
dais
and
at
the
time
I
said
well
guys
we're
going
toward
an
elected
system.
Let's
have
people
sit
in
order
of
seniority
or
alphabetically
or
something
like
that,
and
this
board
went
I
think
it
was
81
against
me
and
said
no,
no,
the
president
should
determine
where
people
sit
and
so
stuff
like
that.
AC
A
AE
I
use
that
one
look.
You
talked
about
perception.
We've
spent
more
time
talking
about
something
that
we're
not
even
going
to
vote
on.
That
has
absolutely
nothing
to
do
with
the
kids
that
we've
spent
more
time.
We
haven't
even
talked
to
engage
with
the
people
that
are
mentioning
comments
about
lead
in
the
water,
but
we're
talking
about
where
people
sink
and
policy
that
we
had
nothing
to
do
it.
This
is
I'm
asking
that
we
just
move
on
from
this.
AE
AC
Know
mr.
butcher
was
your
election
to
comment
or
not
about
water
safety
issues.
If
you
chose
not
to
comment
on
it,
that's
this
your
choice.
What
I'm
talking
about
this
is
a
public
body.
It's
a
public
function
and
just
for
example,
the
Supreme
Court
of
the
United
States
has
rules
about
where
people
sit,
so
what
I'm
talking
about
is
not
silly
and
the
idea
that
a
single
person
could
decide
to
move
people
around
for
some
personal
reason
or
a
political
one
is
a
very
serious
thing
that
this
board
should
should
take
into
account
I.
A
Q
A
T
AB
The
Division
of
Student
Support
Services,
it's
bringing
policy
JM
student
use
of
sunscreen
before
you
for
first
reading.
This
is
a
new
policy.
The
policy
is
in
accordance
with
new
Maryland
state
law,
which
requires
local
school
boards
to
adopt
a
policy
on
student
use
of
sunscreen
at
school
and
school
sponsored
activities.
So
in
accordance
with
this
new
state
law,
this
new
policy
authorizes
students
to
possess
and
use
sunscreen
at
school
and
school
sponsored
activities
without
written
permission
from
a
healthcare
provider.
A
AB
No
not
specifically
because
the
state
law
is
very
broad
in
authorizing
students
to
bring
sunscreen
so
whether
it's
lotion
or
an
aerosol
spray
that
was
not
limited
in
the
state
law.
So
therefore,
we
really
can't
limit
that.
However,
there
is
the
language
in
the
policy
under
the
position
c2,
which
states
that
a
school
principal
shall
implement
the
appropriate
procedures
to
ensure
that
the
sunscreen
is
for
personal
use
self
applied
and
that
application
of
the
sunscreen
does
not
negatively
impact
other
students.
AB
So
you
know
you
might
have
students
with
allergy
or
asthma,
something
like
that,
where
an
aerosol
can
could
you
know,
be
harmful
or
negatively
impact
them.
So
the
principal
would
make
a
determination
as
to
unit
whether
is
something
like
an
aerosol
spray
would
be
sprayed
outside
the
classroom.
But
we
couldn't
limit
what
type
of
sunscreen
the
students
can
use
in.
Q
AB
We
don't
have
a
policy
on
CBD
and
our
school
buildings,
as
maybe
folks
may
or
may
not
be
aware
of
that
medical
cannabis
is
legal
on
the
state
of
Maryland,
and
so
therefore,
there
are
various
ways
in
which
folks
can
take
or
medical
cannabis,
so
it
could
be
done
via
a
sunscreen
on
oil
and
ain't
meant.
So
yes,
that
is
possible.
However,
the
log
does
define
what.
AB
AB
P
AF
F
A
V
Douglass
seated
to
by
left
has
said
in
both
and
to
proceed
previous
presentations
before
this
board
and
reiterated
again
in
the
summer
session,
in
that
the
routing
software
in
and
of
itself
is
not
a
push
once
button
and
you
are
done
commodity.
It
is
clearly
part
of
a
long
and
complex
iterative
process.
The
we
are
in
the
early
stages
of
fully
implementing,
but
it
is
a
process
that
will,
in
the
end,
make
us
better
and
more
efficient
when
it
comes
to
transporting
B.
V
V
Starting
later,
the
later
start
times
have,
as
he
had
predicted
in
fact,
pushed
more
of
our
buses
into
the
more
heavily
trafficked
and
congested
periods
of
the
day,
thus
resulted
in
longer
travel
times
as
well
and
again,
that's
what
he
foreshadowed
for
us
back
in
2015
when
he,
as
well
as
the
W
superintendent
from
Fairfax,
came
and
gave
us
some
information
with
that
as
a
background
and
context
like
to
turn
it
over
to
mr.
Douglass.
At
this
time,
from.
U
The
transportation
divisions
perspective
the
issues
we've
seen
this
September
or
generally
of
the
same
scope
in
nature.
As
in
previous
years.
We
have,
however,
had
more
call
volume,
ranging
from
a
few
hundred
more
calls
a
day
in
the
first
few
days
of
school
to
a
few
dozen.
Now
the
riding
cloak
program.
U
U
We
have
had
issues
with
some
late
buses
due
largely
to
ongoing
driver
shortages,
but
not
related
to
the
rollout
of
the
new
routing
system.
The
driver
shortages,
though
nowhere
near
as
acute
as
they
were
in
the
2017-18
school
year,
are
still
an
issue
as
we
move
forward.
We'll
continue
to
refine
the
system.
Protocols
for
producing
computer-generated
times
will
be
refined
to
reflect
more
accurate,
stop
times
for
route
buses
using
current
GPS
data
generated
by
the
county-owned
school
bus
fleet,
as
well
as
feedback
from
driver
timing.
U
AG
As
a
transportation
person
they'll
continue
their
work,
we
continue
to
refine
and
enhance
the
way
we're
notifying
parents
and
students
and
the
public.
So
our
office
takes
information
from
transportation.
We
use
our
automated
notification
system
to
call
text
email
parents
when
possible.
We
give
letters
to
students
that
happen
today
at
Chesapeake
high
school,
for
example,
with
two
bus
routes
that
we
did
there.
The
changes
are
also
posted
daily
several
times
daily,
as
mr.
Douglass
said
on
the
website.
J
U
No
normal
volume
is
is
about
800
calls
a
day
for
the
first
several
days.
It's
it's
extremely
high.
This
year
we
estimate
that
was
about
20%
for
25%.
More
emails
are
hard
to
determine
since
many
they're,
not
from
parents,
I
mean
we
I
tried
to
pull
the
email
volume
and
you
really
couldn't
get
either
questions
from
parents
or
complaints
only
because
the
email
volume
it's
we're
doing
business
on
email.
So
if
we
could
capture
a
total
email
number,
we
still
couldn't
really
glean
how
many
were
complaints.
U
The
phone
calls
and
again
these
are
these
are
estimates,
but
we
in
the
first
couple
of
days
of
school,
we
generally
have
what
800
calls
which,
if
you
allow
me
one
of
the
things
this
program
will
eventually
take
care
of,
is
that
800
people
won't
have
to
call
us.
So
so,
even
though,
even
though
we
hit
up
this
bump,
which
we
expected
because
of
it
because
of
having
to
tweet
the
times
when
this
is
fully
running,
what
we
would
like
to
happen
is
fewer.
U
People
have
to
call
us
that
they
can
get
the
information
through
other
ways,
but
generally
we
have
800
calls
a
day,
and
this
year
we
estimate
that
to
be
a
thousand
calls
for
the
first
couple
of
things
where
we're
down
in
the
second
third
week
to
a
much
smaller
phone
like
so
so.
The
issues
that
had
to
do
with
with
the
timing
of
the
bus
routes
settle
down
within
a
matter
of
a
couple
of
days
that
answers
that
question.
Mr.
pitcher,
yes,.
F
U
Well,
we
didn't,
with
the
exception
of
maybe
one
or
two
exceptions
or
or
a
very
small
number
of
exceptions.
There
weren't
delays
associated
with
the
routing
times
the
delays
that
we
get
the
first
couple
of
days
are
usually
in
there.
They
really
in
two
different
areas.
One
is
just
buses
that
are
late
for
one
reason
or
another,
but
you
also
have,
in
the
first
several
days
a
situation
where
every
driver
is
going
a
little
slow,
they're
taking
a
little
more
time
at
each
stop
their
parents
asking
questions
at
the
door.
U
AE
U
So
you're
talking
about
not
not,
how
do
we
respond
with
the
contractor,
but
how
we
communicate
to
the
parents
for
it
for
years
it
hasn't
been,
it
hasn't
been
good
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
now
is
to
is
a
greater
flow
of
information
from
the
contractors
to
our
office
and
then
information
from
our
office
to
to
the
communications
office,
so
that
we
can
implement
a
much
more
effective
communication.
Hey
your
bus
is
gonna,
be
late
or
we
know
the
bus
is
gonna,
be
late.
U
AE
U
You
have
buses
that
are
late
to
subsequent
schools
because
of
the
fact
that
folks
in
the
afternoon
have
been
very,
very
careful
the
kids
get
on
the
right
bus.
So
that's
that's
one
situation.
Another
situation
is
just
is
just
that
the
timing
has
not
been
estimated
correctly
and
the
bus
is
getting
to
the
next
school
way.
We
try
to
identify
those
as
soon
as
possible
and
through
a
process
of
triage,
and
we
try
to
take
care
of
the
most
serious
ones.
First.
U
So
if
we
know
that
a
bus
because
of
scheduling
reasons,
is
arriving
at
a
subsequent
school
late,
let's
say
half
an
hour
late
and
there's
another
bus,
that's
arriving
fifteen
minutes
late.
We
use
a
triage
process.
It
says
a
half
an
hour
late,
it's
more
serious
than
the
fifteen
minutes,
so
we
try
to
correct
the
more
serious
problems.
First,
through
this
first,
two
or
three
weeks
cool
there.
V
Is
there
is
a
third
condition,
mr.
butcher,
and
that's
the
one
that
deals
with
the
driver
shortage
at
some
contractors?
So
if,
if
the
contractor
does
not
have
a
sufficient
number
of
drivers
to
cover
all
the
routes,
they
do,
what
state
what
they
call
is
a
double
run,
so
they
will,
they
will
complete
one
entire
full
serf
will
come
back
to
the
school,
pick
up
the
second
contingent
of
children
and
deliver
them
clearly
that
is
outside
of
the
bounds
of
the
contract.
But
that's
what
they've
done
given
the
circumstances
did
that
they
were
faced
with.
V
What
we
do
is
two
things
one.
Obviously
we
have
a
mechanism
that
that
damnit
liquidated
damages
for
a
sign
for
the
contractor
that
doesn't
help
the
situation.
What
does
help
the
situation
is
Kahn
we
reach
out
to
the
contractor,
obviously
express
our
certain
regarding
that.
We
encourage
them
to
contract,
to
contact
other
contractors
that
may
have
spare
bus
drivers
that
it
can
temporarily
hire
to
service
them.
V
That's
a
that's
a
commonality
we
determined
from
them
if
they
are
fully
utilizing
all
of
their
staff,
so,
for
example,
sometimes
the
owner
the
other
office
employees
other
employees
of
that
bus
contracting
firm,
are
in
fact,
CDL
drivers.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
they
have
all
the
folks
that
they
could
possibly
have
out
on
the
road
behind
the
wheel
and
the
third
thing
we
ascertain
because
folks
are
continuously
getting
certified
and
certificated
by
the
state
agency
and
then
by
the
county
to
be
bus
drivers.
We
confirm
with
them.
V
Q
F
So
I
did
take
I
had
taken
some
time
in
the
last
two
weeks
to
do
some
very
preliminary
exploration
about
the
apps
that
are
out
there.
There
was
one
a
particular
that
was
mentioned
that
in
front
of
his
board
several
weeks
ago,
and
so
I
went
with
that
one
as
a
sort
of
a
common
place.
To
start,
there
are
two
pieces
to
that
puzzle.
The
first
is
for
the
app
to
work
each
of
the
vehicles.
F
The
buses
in
this
case
have
to
be
equipped
with
GPS,
and
so
it
was
mentioned
that
another
County
has
this
app
and
the
parents
are
able
to
monitor
the
comings
and
goings
of
the
buses
in
the
timing,
though,
that
is
a
school
system
that
owns
all
of
their
buses
and
therefore
has
installed
GPS
systems
on
all
of
their
buses.
We
own
about
50
buses
in
our
fleet.
F
We
do
have
GPS
systems
on
the
buses
that
we
own,
but,
as
you
well
know,
this
board
knows
the
majority
of
our
buses
are
not
owned
by
us
they're
owned
by
contractors.
Some
of
those
contractors
do
have
GPS
most
do
not
so
it
needs
the
GPS
system
installed.
On
the
bus
first,
the
second
piece
is
once
the
GPS
is
installed.
Then
you
buy
this
product
that
allows
you
to
communicate
through
the
GPS.
With
this
app
on
the
app,
certainly
as
it
was
reported,
doesn't
cost
the
parent
anything,
but
the
school
system
does
so.
V
U
Right
may
I
also
speak
to
the
Asian
and
and
I
think
I
said
this
in
the
first
presentation
we're
this.
This
writing
program
that
we've
purchased
and
that
we
have
now
implemented,
and
that
and
the
GIS
system
that
it
sits
on
is,
is
a
first
generation
of
technology
technology
that
you
need
before
you
start
putting
these
apps
on
top,
so
you're
talking
about
lay
or
player
B
layer
C
on
this
basic
technology,
so
so
really
the
in
addition
to
the
cost
and
and
the
GI
of
it
GPS
that
needs
to
be
on
each
bus.
U
AA
Thank
you,
madam
president,
if
I
could
just
piggyback
on
mr.
Reinhardt's
question
about
the
GPS,
do
we
know
and
extra
interesting
700
buses,
but
do
we
know
if
that
capability
exists
for
the
special
education
buses?
Mr.
Chuck?
No,
but
you
mentioned
the
the
I
know
we
have
a
route
that
goes
up
to
timonium.
For
instance,
do
parents
have
that
ability
by
using
an
app
for
special
education
student.
V
If
it
is
on
one
of
the
55
on
lift
assist
buses
that
we
operate,
we
do
a
GPS
on
those
again.
We
do
not
have
the
aperture
and
we
have
special
ed
buses
that
are
not
run
by
our
publicly
owned
buses,
however,
and
to
the
extent
that
they
do
or
don't
have
GPS
that
would
be
dependent
on
our
contractors.
We
only
have
two
got
over
ten
contractors,
only
two
of
them
to
our
knowledge
use
GPS
on
the
bulk
of
their
vehicles.
The
other
contractors
don't
utilize
that
technology
at
all,
so
it
would
be
dependent
on.
V
U
I
also
had
in
the
current
contract
that
went
out
today
for
buses
were
bidding
on
for
next
year.
We
didn't,
we
didn't
put
language
in
that
says
they
must
have
GPS,
but
we
did
put
language
in.
That
said,
we
may
ask
for
this
on
any
of
these
buses
and
we
would
control
the
GPS
so
that
they
didn't
have
a
financial
impact
on
the
bed
or
on
the
contracts,
but
it
did
open
the
door
if,
in
the
future,
we
wanted
to
put
GPS
on
that.
We
control
that
we
could
so
so
we're
laying
the
groundwork
for.
AA
That
thank
you
and
I
certainly
appreciate
the
cost.
That's
there
and
I
just
hope
that,
as
we
continue
this
dialogue,
we
can
figure
out
a
way
to
make
it
happen.
I
mean
I
and
you
know
I
live
on
over
and
it's
just
so
easy
to
see
where
that
driver
is
how
how
quickly
you
know
he's
going
to
be
here
in
three
minutes:
two
and
a
half
minutes
two
minutes
90
seconds.
We
got
to
get
there
yep
and-
and
you
know,
I'm
hoping
that
that
can
happen
soon.
If
I
can
I
know.
Mr.
AA
butcher
was
talking
a
little
bit
about.
You
know
some
of
the
trials
and
tribulations
of
the
first
couple
weeks.
I
want
to
be
definitively
clear
because
I'm
still
seeing
some
emails
that
come
through
one
in
particular,
from
Chesapeake
Bay
middle.
Can
we
say
that
in
week
for
our
students
getting
to
school
on
time,.
U
AA
AA
These
students
are
getting
to
school
before
the
first
bell,
I
think.
If
we
go
into
October
and
again
outside
of
three
standard
deviations
away,
I
mean
I,
always
get
you
know
Fortney.
It
has
an
issue
that
we
can't
control
or
you
know,
175
has
a
hiccup
that
that
is
just
an
you
know.
Abnormal
thing:
if
we're
going
into
October
and
kids
aren't
getting
score
in
time,
know.
V
There's
one
other
wildcard
mr.
Dylan
is,
and
that
really
has
to
do
with
with
two
things:
I
mean
I.
Mr.
Douglass
alluded
to
it,
but
it
is
actually
more
serious
than
that
I
mean
the
economy
improves.
We
are
increasingly
seeing
two
things
either
folks,
don't
initially
want
to
become
bus
drivers
because
they
have
better
opportunities,
possibly
better
paying
opportunities
and
remember
most
bus
drivers
are
not
full-time
they're
they're,
you
know
by
the
hour,
and
they
are
not
making
a
full
and
employed
hours.
V
So
we
have
less
and
less
people
as
economy
improves
and
more
opportunities
exist
outside
too
initially
one
of
the
comm
bus
drivers,
public
school
bus
drivers.
The
second
piece
is,
for
example,
as
the
construction
economy
continues
to
accelerate,
etc
the
seat
the
federal
CDL
license
that
they
hold
is
a
is
a
valuable
commodity.
There's
a
a
value
stored
in
that
federally
issued
license
and
if
reliable,
contracting
or
or
any
of
the
big
players
need
more
CDL
drivers.
V
So
we
have
seen
over
time
that
when
the
economy
goes
down,
we
have
less
bus
driver
of
shortage
issues
when
economy
improves,
we
have
a
tougher
time
initially
recruiting,
and
then
we
have
more
defections
under
retention
side
and
if
you've
been
in
a
business
long
enough,
like
many
of
us,
have
we
watched
these
up-and-down
cycles
and
can
correlate
our
driver
shortages
or
inability
to
recruit
and
retain
drivers
tied
to
the
robustness
of
the
economy
around
us
I'm,
not
at
all
saying
that
as
an
excuse.
Mr.
V
AA
Before
I
I
had
to
resign
from
the
board
of
directors
for
Anne
Arundel,
Workforce
Development
Corporation's
to
join
this
board-
and
you
know
I
would
just
say:
I
I,
don't
know
if
it's
been
explored
and
I
know.
Obviously
some
of
these
are
contractors
that
we
we
don't
necessarily
have
exact
control
over
from
a
hiring
perspective,
but
I
I
think
a
partnership
with
AAW
DC
or
we
can
arrange
it.
AA
You
know
the
State
Department
of
Labor
might
be
able
to
help
with
that
a
little
bit,
I
I
just
think
we've
got
to
you
know
they
forgive
the
old
adage.
Think
outside
the
box.
I
think
we
need
to
throw
the
Box
away
and
just
start
to
figure
out
how
to
resolve
this
because
I
know
if
we're
having
the
problem,
Prince
George's,
Howard
Montgomery,
you
know
the
biggies
are
having
the
problem
as
well
and
I.
AA
Don't
know
you
know
what
the
thought
leadership
is
in
this
area,
but
these
challenges
I
know
are
widespread
and
and
I'm
just
hoping
that
the
gurus
of
all
of
the
thought
leadership
can
come
together
and
figure
out
what
a
short-term
solution
is.
Certainly,
we
all
want
the
economy
to
remain
robust
and
you
know,
obviously
you
know
some
things
benefit
when
the
economy
dips,
but
I
just
feel
like
we've
got
to
get
ahead
of
this.
We
really
do
and.
V
I
really
loved
that
observation,
because
in
fact
you
can
check
the
box
not
that
there
are
other
boxes
unchecked,
but
I
have
personally
met
with
miss
massage.
You
know:
executive
director
of
ABC
we've
met
worth
workforce
development.
We
have
attended
some
of
the
recruitment
activities.
They
are
on
the
lookout
for
us
and
we've
also
reached
out
to
Fort
Meade
for
two
reasons.
V
Even
if
it's
coca-cola
bottling
company,
we
know
that
that
business
is
the
kind
of
business
that
has
CDL
certificated
drivers.
We
vas
a
DC
workforce
development
to
notify
us
of
that
one
and
to
market
us
as
an
outlet.
So
if
you're
getting
laid
off
from
a
logistics,
trucking
company
workforce
development
has
been
explicitly
asked
to
market
ie
CPS
as
an
opportunity
for
those
individuals
and
then
secondly,
because
some
depending
on
what
their
capacity
is
in
the
military,
some
also
do
have
the
right
initial
CDL
licensure.
V
Now,
certainly
they
may
not
have
the
passenger
endorsement,
but
they
have
the
underlying
foundation
for
that.
So
we've
reached
out
to
the
military
establishment
to
that,
as
folks
are
retiring,
folks
are
moving
out
the
military.
We
want
them
to
understand
that
we
are
an
opportunity.
Our
contractors
are
an
opportunity
for
them
for
second
career
employment.
One.
AA
Last
question
I
want
to
be
respectful
because
we
have
a
couple
of
cards
after
people
want
to
testify
and
I
know
the
hours
getting
late,
especially
for
some
some
young
ones.
In
the
audience
too.
My
last
question
then
I
obviously
know
the
the
uptick
in
the
economy's.
You
know
causing
issues
with
with
attracting
and
hiring
of
bus
drivers,
but
are
we
seeing
anywhere
where
there
is
a
supply
of
potential
drivers,
but
they
are
not
being
able
to
pass
the
screening?
Oh.
D
V
The
the
bar
is
very
high,
I
mean
there
is
a
there's,
a
federal
bar
there
is
a
state
bar,
etc,
and
it's
more
there's.
You
know:
physical
source,
drug
screening,
there's
disqualifiers
based
on
prior
convictions,
etc.
So
there's
a
long
list
of
of
items
that
would
disqualify
a
potential
driver,
but
those
are
in
either
a
federal
statute
or
in
this
in
the
two
state
statutes
a
part
of
its
within
MSDE
and
part
of
it
is
within
the
Department
of
Transportation
here
and
not,
and.
U
AC
I
don't
see
how
this
would
make
my
life
any
easier
at
all
as
a
parent
of
a
young
child
and
to
tell
you
the
truth,
I
think
I
would
the
only
misuse
I
you
think
that
I
might
deal
with
it
is
if
I
see
the
busses
running
late.
I'm
gonna
take
that
much
longer
to
get
my
kid
to
the
bus
stop,
which
is
only
going
to
cause
more
delays.
V
Obviously
we
are
under
federal
requirements
to
protect
information
about
our
students
and
to
protect
our
students
from
certain
kinds
event
of
information,
etc,
and
where
that
information
then
goes
so
the
privacy
and
the
confidentiality
elements
of
some
of
these
technology
company
contracts
are
such
a
nature
that
they
would
actually
preclude
to
begin
to
even
utilize
them
at
the
outset,
and
then
beyond
that,
then
it's
every
single
thing
that
you
just
mentioned.
Mr.
Branum.
A
So
now
having
children
that
ride
four
different
buses,
I
get
kind
of
a
microcosm
of
the
good
and
the
challenges
that
come
out.
So
one
one
issue
that
we
saw
that
on
one
of
our
buses
and
then
I
heard
from
other
parents
where
that
there
were
some
buses
that
were
overcrowded
at
the
beginning
of
school.
How
do
we
estimate
how
many
students
will
ride
a
bus?
Well.
U
In
the
past
and
right
now,
it's
historic
ridership.
If,
if
a
neighborhood
usually
yielded
twenty
five
elementary
school
students,
we
will
use
that
as
we
believe,
they're
gonna
be
twenty
five.
Obviously,
with
what
mister
scheck
never
said
about
the
growth
of
the
county,
those
those
are
not
as
reliable
as
as
they
weren't
in
a
stagnant
population.
U
As
we
as
we
become
more
familiar
with
this
program,
and
it's
a
program
generates
more
data
for
us.
We
could
come
up
with
a
coefficient
to
use
with
this
historical
data,
meaning
that-
and
let
me
not
to
go
too
far
here
but
ridership
at
the
high
school
is
very
low,
because
kids
stay
after
four
sports
and
they
ride
in
with
with
a
friend
who
has
a
car
or
whatever
ridership
at
the
elementary
can
be
low,
because
parents
drive
their
kids
to
school
and
pick
them
up
in
the
afternoon.
U
You
can
pretty
much
predict
at
the
middle
school
that
if
they're
50
kids
in
the
neighborhood
they'll
have
50
riders,
so
so
between
the
three
different
levels
it
changes,
but
if,
as
we
collect
data
using
the
new
system,
if
we
find
out
that
the
coefficient
would
be
70
percent
of
the
kids
in
this
neighborhood
generally
ride,
then
we
we
have
on
the
map,
which
is
new
for
us.
What
we
actually
know,
how
many
kids
in
the
neighborhood
and
if
we
can
come
up
historically
with
a
coefficient
of
how
many
normally
ride.
U
Let's
say
you
have
a
hundred
kids
in
the
neighborhood
and
you
have
a
coefficient
of
70%.
We
can
more
accurately
predict
the
ridership
in
that
neighborhood.
Now
again,
with
growth,
all
bets
are
off,
but
we
can
get
smarter
with
this,
based
on
the
data
that
we're
generating
with
the
riving
program.
So.
A
U
In
fact,
one
contractor
last
year
was
and
serious
driver
shortage
problems
this
year.
The
two
that
we've
identified
are
not
the
one
that
had
the
problem
last
year.
Now,
coincidentally,
he
raised
his
salaries
for
this
year,
so
so
it
there's
a
real
high
correlation
between
the
salary
going
up
and
not
having
a
driver
shortage.
But
yes,
they
that
that's
that
from
year
to
year,
goes
from
contractor
to
contractor.
If
we
have
one
that
is
chronically
every
year,
one
of
the
problems
will
start
taking
contracts.
V
We,
in
fact
do
that
we
do
we'll
take
routes
away
from
if
a
contractor
cannot
perform
by
change
order.
We
have
the
ability
in
most
Rhinehart's
ask
this
question.
In
prior
times,
during
contract
award
periods,
we
have
the
ability
to
either
add
con,
add
routes
to
a
contract
or
the
leaf.
So
in
this
case,
if
we
have
a
pulley
performing
contractor,
we
can
take
that
route
away,
that
bus
away,
etc
from
that
contractor
by
change
order
and
then
add
it
to
another
contractor.
V
But
again
you
got
to
make
sure
that
the
other
contractor
has
a
driver
has
a
vehicle
as
everything
to
be
able
to
support
that
that
route.
So
you
know
you
can
be
punitive
on
one
end,
but
you
have
to
be
absolutely
successful,
you're
going
to
be
or
sure
you're
going
to
be
successful
on
the
other
end
ya
know.
A
Another
issue
that
we
came
up
in
and
I
shared
with
the
superintendent
and
that
I
appreciate
mr.
Moser
and
mr.
Douglas.
That
has
been
corrected.
It's
the
communication
that
was
coming
about
about
bus
changes
because
we
were
having
an
issue
with
one
of
our
buses
and
I
said
if
this
is
happening
to
our
bus,
it's
probably
happening
elsewhere
in
the
county
and
so
I
appreciate
that
the
increase
that
was
given
for
for
communication
coming
out
that
the
letters
and
the
parent
connect
that
came
out.
That
was
very
helpful.
A
The
second
week
after
we've
had
some
delays.
Now
I
will
say
something
I've
seen
exactly
what
you're
saying
that
the
new
software
generated
some
new
start
times
and
some
new
pick
up
times,
and
then
we
found
that
in
reality,
the
they
couldn't
be
met
in
that
route.
One
of
out
of
my
four
buses
to
have
been
on
time
perfectly
every
day
and
one
the
first
week.
A
We
thought
it
was
a
little
optimistic
of
how
late
they
were
picking
up
and
we
found
it
was
because
of
traffic
getting
from
where
a
magnet
bus,
so
they
traveled
farther
so
getting
from
our
house
to
the
school,
was
taking
longer
than
I
think
what
the
the
software
had
optimistically
anticipated
and
so
that
that
was
changed.
But
I
will
say
it's
made
a
big
difference.
My
my
oldest
is
now
catching
the
bus
30
minutes
later
than
he
did
two
years
ago.
A
U
A
So
that
was
very
positive,
he's
getting
more
sleep
and
so
that
we've
seen
that
the
issues
that
have
come
about
it,
our
bus,
stop,
have
been
fixed
over
the
past
couple
of
weeks
and
I
appreciate
that
I
echo
what
mr.
Gilliland
said
that
I
expect
the
first
couple
of
weeks.
The
big
concern
is:
are
they
being
addressed
and
coming
through
and
we're
seeing
on
our
end
that
it
is
and
we're
also
seeing
from
the
emails
were
receiving
from
parents
that
things
are
being
remedied
as
well?
I
will.
U
Say
that
that
you
know
we,
we
hit
our
target
for
getting
this
thing
up
and
running
this
year,
but
the
real,
if
we're
successful
over
the
next
year,
the
real,
dramatic
change,
how
much
smoother
next
September
starts,
because
he,
even
though
it's
up
and
running
it,
a
lot
of
the
benefits
take
time
to
implement
so
I.
Our
our
vision
is,
is
to
get
it
up
and
running
this
September,
so
that
our
next
opening
is
dramatically
better.
A
AH
Suzanne
Coleman,
my
statements
are
regarding
middle
school
Walker's
to
lyndale.
We
live
in
Linthicum
Heights
on
East,
Maple,
Road,
just
east
of
the
light
rail
stop.
The
cutoff
for
middle
school
walkers
is
a
mile
and
a
half
surrounding
Howard
County
and
Baltimore
County
are
one
mile.
Our
kids
are
expected
to
cross
three
major
roadways
along
a
rail
farm
store
to
cross
active
light
rail
tracks
and
down
a
secluded
bullet
shrouded
path.
Our
local
families
have
grave
concerns
regarding
this
walk
to
school.
AH
Our
community
is
unique
in
that
children
are
directed
to
cross
train
tracks
on
foot
and
down
a
darkened
path
to
get
to
school.
According
to
Anne
Arundel
County
Public
Schools
publish
safety
guidelines
dated
August
2018
families
should
develop
a
walking
route
that
minimizes
their
exposure
to
vehicular
traffic
shortcuts
through
isolated
paths,
woods
or
across
railroad
tracks
can
be
dangerous.
A
a
CPS
is
telling
us
to
avoid
these
scenarios.
AH
We
are
the
only
community
in
Anne
Arundel
County,
where
children
are
expected
to
cross
train
tracks
two
times
a
day
to
get
to
and
from
school
we
say.
No
children
of
any
age
should
be
crossing
those
tracks
on
foot
elementary
school
kids
at
le
s
on
the
west
side,
get
a
bus
to
school
despite
being
less
than
the
required
mile
distance,
but
for
middle
school
kids
traveling
in
the
opposite
direction.
It's
considered.
Okay,
this
is
the
reasoning
is
not
logical.
Our
delegate
and
super
ins
toward
the
area
in
August.
AH
The
train
was
out
of
service
due
to
track
washout
and
all
was
uncharacteristically
quiet
in
addition
to
the
inherent
risks
in
taking
this
path
or
the
persistent
nuisance
and
criminal
elements
brought
in
by
the
light.
Rail
residents,
including
myself,
have
witnessed
loitering
and
homelessness
opened
drug
and
alcohol
use
in
intoxication
public
urination,
chronic
panhandling
and
trash
picking,
high
and
passed
out.
AH
Drug
addicts
who
disturb
attend
disturbances
of
the
peace
I
propose
a
cost-effective
and
effortless
solution
to
the
serious
situation,
make
an
exception
and
allow
the
students
who
live
east
of
the
light
rail
tracks,
but
less
than
a
mile
and
a
half
from
school
to
ride
the
bus.
This
is
the
equivalent
of
what
is
now
allowed
for
elementary
school
kids
on
the
west
side
use
the
already
existing
bus
stops
on
East,
Maple
and
north
can't
meet
roads.
This
would
require
no
effort
from
the
county,
no
added
buses
or
drivers.
No
added
stops
no
route
all
alterations.
AH
A
a
CPS
would
merely
need
to
allow
these
children
in
this
catch-22
to
step
on
the
closest
bus.
There
are
plenty
of
seats.
The
cost
involved
is
already
committed.
It's
safer
to
walk
a
few
yards
than
requiring
kids
to
walk
a
route.
The
route
put
forth
by
a
a
CPS
safety
is
everyone's
concerned.
I
presume
further.
It
is
a
colossal
waste
of
taxpayer
resources
to
exclude
these
children
from
riding
these
buses.
I've
sent
many
emails
to
the
Department
of
Transportation
and
received
tone-deaf
policy
responses.
AH
B
My
name
is
Kara
Morris
and
I.
Also
live
in
with
the
Komen
I.
Have
a
son
who
was
a
sixth
grader
at
lyndale
middle
school
I
would
ask
the
board
to
consider
the
totality
of
the
circumstances
under
which
our
kids
are
expected
to
walk
from
the
east
side
of
Linthicum
to
lyndale
middle
school.
When
you
put
together
the
train
tracks,
the
illegal
activity
to
which
miss
Coleman
referred
to
and
the
secluded
wooded
area,
it's
hard
to
believe
what
we're
requiring
our
11-year
olds
to
do
in
every
single
day.
B
I
understand
that
the
boards
or
the
the
public
schools
way
of
addressing
the
issue
is
to
provide
crossing
guards
at
key
locations.
Crossing
guards
are
important,
but
what
are
they
expected
to
do
in
the
moment
in
the
moment?
In
the
face
of
illegal
activity?
Also,
there
are
no
crossing
guards
in
the
secluded
wooded
path
that
makes
up
part
of
the
approved
route.
The
safety
is
truly
a
priority.
Then
please
make
an
exception
to
the
1.5
mile
threshold
and
allow
affected
kids
to
ride
the
already
existing
bus
that
stops
on
East
Maple
Road.
AI
AI
AI
Petitions,
but
every
time
we
get
good
look
forward
of
transportation,
they
say
well.
I
would
think
you
guys
saying
to
get
this
bus
reinstated.
It's
pretty
upsetting
us.
I
have
documentation
here
that
would
like
to
drive
you
at
the
end,
but
basically
they
sent
us
a
cease
and
desist
letter.
When
the
blog
across
the
street,
which
I
can
see
from
my
house,
my
son
cannot
get
on
the
bus.
You
can
ask
the
wall
is
what
they're
telling
us
that's
point
seven
six
miles
of
our
guardrail,
and
these
are
elementary
school
kids
they're
six-year-olds.
A
F
AI
We
most
documented
there's
other
bus
stops
and
there
are
less
than
the
point
1
mile,
but
they
get
a
bus
because
they
have
to
cross
the
ball,
but
our
sit
slots
across
the
ball.
They
want
us
to
walk
drive.
Do
it,
do
it
through
the
neighborhoods
to
neighborhoods
and
come
back
down
on
the
ball
to
the
crossing
guard,
but
it's
over
a
mile.
AI
A
AE
F
So
there
are
comfy,
so
the
short
answer
is
no,
but
several
things
have
been
brought
up
by
the
three
speakers.
So
let
me
see
if
I
can
parse
that
out
a
little
bit
so
in
terms
of
determining
where
the
bus
stops
are
gonna
be
and
the
times
they're
gonna
come
and
go,
that's
under
my
purview
and
that's
what
our
staff
does.
F
What
was
mentioned
here
is
when
it
talks
when,
when
we
talk
about
or
when
it's
brought
up
the
distances
of
walkers
versus
riders,
and
that's
where
this
board
would
have
more
input
and
say
in
terms
of
the
distances
where
you
heard
that
there
are
some
counties
that
are
so.
We
divide
ours
between
elementary
and
secondary,
which
is
middle
school
in
high
school
I'm,
whether
it's
a
mile
or
a
mile
and
a
half
where
you
have
to
walk
or
you
get
bus
service
and
that's
a
decision.
F
F
The
starting
stops
the
times
of
those
stops,
that
was
in
the
purview
of
superintendent,
but
the
board
would
have
some
input
in
terms
of
distances.
If
wanted
to
change
those
distances.
I
think
you'd
heard
recommendation
to
bring
them
in
so
you
did,
but
you
then
be
providing
more
transportation
for
more
students,
but
that
has
been
looked
at
by
boards
other
than
this
in
the
past
and.
AE
AE
AE
M
AC
This
is
in
partial
response
to
mr.
butchers
question,
so
the
answer
to
the
question
was
that
the
board
doesn't
control
which
bus
goes
where
and
that
kind
of
thing,
but
we
can
certainly
direct
dr.
otto
to
report
publicly
on
the
outcome
of
the
issues
that
were
raised
tonight
and
I'm
certainly
making
that
request.
I
mean,
if
we're
having
transparency,
you
know.
If
we're
gonna
have
public
questions,
we
need
to
have
public
answers.
So
I'm
I'm
asking
you
dr.
AC
A
And
just
to
be
clear
doctor
a
lot
of
when
the
individual
issues
come
up
like
this,
these
these
issues,
as
with
it
anything
in
the
board,
they
can
also
there's
an
appeal
process
that
that
someone
can
go
through
about
a
bus,
stop
or
something
with
that,
so
that
could
work
its
way
through
the
system
as
well.
If
this,
we
don't
receive
many
of
the
complaints
that
come
through,
because
the
staff
handles
them
and
it
directs
them.
So
we
don't
get
reported
every
time
something.
A
AC
AC
I
F
Y
F
We
talk
about
the
resolution,
so
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
high
point,
so
I'm
glad
to
look
into
that
and
I
thought
I
made
it
abundantly
clear
that
I
would
begin
to
look
into
that
process.
I
thought
I
did
that
I
was
not
familiar
with
it
and
I
would
look
into
it.
I
am
very
familiar
with
Linda
school
walking.
F
The
situation,
as
was
reported,
I
went
out
with
not
only
delegate
vital
but
with
the
director
of
the
crossing
guards
that
is
under
the
sanction
of
the
police
department,
as
well
as
the
north
of
the
new
north
and
district
commander
and
several
of
his
deputies
and
we
met.
We
walk
the
route
we
discussed,
what
the
various
options
were,
if
and
and
as
was
reported,
it
was
during
the
summer
and
at
the
time,
because
of
some
flooding
prior
to
that
the
light
rail
station
was
closed.
I
since
went
back
out
tuesday.
F
F
I
introduced
myself
to
the
two
crossing
guards,
I
learned
what
I
could
about
the
situation
and
we
we
have
families
that
live
within
a
one
with
within
1.5
miles
on
the
east
side
of
the
tracks
that
are
within
the
walking
distance
as
set
by
policy
and
regulatory
language
that
are
walking
to
Linda.
Are
they
crossing
Kent
need
Road?
And
the
answer
is
yes,
with
a
crossing
guard?
Are
they
crossing
light
rail
tracks?
Yes,
with
a
crossing
guard?
Are
they
walking
down
a
pathway
that
is
partially
wooded?
F
There
I
spoke
to
two
of
the
three
to
determine
the
issues:
the
safety
to
see
if
they
had
any
suggestions
or
concerns,
I
believe
it
to
be
a
safe
walking
route
from
the
neighborhood
to
cross
the
street
with
a
crossing
guard
at
the
fire
station,
where
the
Royal
Farms
is.
That
was
mentioned
in
the
testimony
across
the
light
rail
tracks,
with
a
crossing
guard
and
down
the
pathway
to
another
crossing
guard
that
gets
them
across
music
playing
and
up
to
the
school.
F
Where
then,
there
are
two
crossing
guards
at
right
in
front
of
the
school,
so
I
believe
that
it
is
Welker
and
I
believe
it
to
be
a
safe
walking
route.
I
am
not
recommending
to
this
board
that
we've
changed
that
we
change
anything
with
that
group.
Yes,
are
there
buses
that
run
through
the
neighborhood,
which
is
being
suggested
that
students
could
get
on
the
answers?
F
Yes,
but
then
that
would
be
the
case
for
any
other
neighborhood
within
a
1.5
1.5
mile
radius,
where
there
are
buses
that
are
not
completely
full,
where
students
are
walking
to
school
and
they're
passed
by
a
bus
that
has
seats.
We
would
then
have
to
allow
all
students
to
do
that
so
I'm
not
recommending
that
change.
Q
F
Q
Q
F
Q
F
F
But
I
choose
my
words
carefully.
Thank
you
because,
while
I
was
there,
an
elementary
school
student
did
cross
the
tracks
with
their
father
fall
on
the
west
side,
and
this
was
a
family
choice.
The
father
likes
to
walk
the
son
to
school
and
he
walked
his
son
across
the
tracks
with
the
use
of
the
crossing
guard
across
Canton
Road,
with
the
use
of
the
crossing
guard
and
then
up
to
the
elementary
school.
And
then
the
father
returned
in
and.
AC
Q
Q
AC
Want
to
thank
mr.
Rhinehart
for
his
question,
because
I
think
when
he
asked
are
there
any
other
paths
that
involve
crossing
train
tracks
and
the
answer
to
that
is
no.
That
provides
a
very
logical
reason
why
this
would
not
lead
to
the
parade
of
horribles
and
open
up
some
Canada
forums.
Well,
we
have
to
do
this
for
every
single
route,
there's
a
special
natural
geographical
issue
that
needs
to
be
taken
into
account.
Two
board
members
have
asked
that
each
of
the
questions
that
were
raised
tonight
in
public
be
answered
in
public
at
the
next
meeting.
AF
Thank
you,
madam
president,
I.
Second,
you,
mr.
reinhard,
on
bringing
that
policy
up
and
I
think
we
should
maybe
also
review
the
walking
distance
for
elementary
school
students,
specifically
because,
as
brought
up
at
the
meeting
tonight
and
previously,
there's
been
like
problems
with
the
distances
for
elementary
school
students
and
I
know.
Personally,
I
would
not
trust
my
little
sister
at
seven
years
old
to
memorize
or
0.76
mile
walk
so
I
think
that's
something
we
should
look
at.
Maybe
mr.
Q
I
concur
when
we
have
our
policy
committee
committee
meeting
on
the
17th
would
be
possible
to
bring
I
know.
We
don't
like
to
mix
dollars
with
safety,
but
it
is
our
role
to
also
be
fiscally
responsible
with
taxpayer
funds.
Would
it
be
possible
to
get
financial
breakdown
of
of
costs
for
each
of
the
different
walking
distance
for
our
various
students.
A
AJ
My
daughter
Benson
also
attending
High
Point,
the
buses
have
been
canceled
as
of
this
year.
October
1st,
my
daughter's
been
riding
that
bus
for
five
years
with
no
issue
they're
out
they
want
them
to
take,
is
not
only
down
streets
that
do
not
have
sidewalks.
So
when
it
snows
they'll
be
walking
in
the
street
paths
of
registered
sex
offenders
house
down
Duvall
Highway,
who
has
a
shoulder
that
is
no
more
than
a
foot
wide.
That's
a
major
road
in
our
little
area
when
it
snows
it's
supposed
to
be
a
bad
winter.
AJ
This
year,
there's
kids
gonna
be
on
the
street.
My
six-year-old
son
will
be
walking
in
the
street
of
a
traffic
heavy
traffic
area.
The
school
is
also
under
construction,
which,
with
any
school
under
construction,
it's
a
mess.
Currently
High
Point
is
gorgeous
on
the
inside.
It's
a
mess
on
the
outside.
The
parking
lot
is
restricted,
drop-off
is
restricted,
and
it's
gotten
to
the
point
where
parents
are
kind
of
getting
a
little
desperate
and
stopping
onto
a
highway
and
letting
their
students
out,
which
is
extremely
dangerous
period,
taking
away
the
bus
stop.
AJ
We
have
probably
20
kids
here
at
that
bus.
Stop.
It
is
active
bus,
stop.
The
bus
is
halfway
empty.
The
bus
stop
is
for
kindergarten
pre-k.
Only
apparently,
because
I've
been
riding
this
bus
for
years.
So
picking
these
kids
up
does
not
add
any
excess,
any
expense
at
all.
The
kids
been
doing
it
for
years.
That
stops
are
active,
they're,
regular
with
them
being
the
way
they
are,
there's
no
crossing
guards.
AJ
So
the
kids
have
crossed
over
Notley
Road
within
the
crossing
guard,
cause
it's
gonna
bust
off
and
when
they
get
over
to
Woodlawn,
which
is
the
part
of
the
route
there
sooner
crossing
club,
because
it's
been
a
bus,
stop
we
haven't
had
them.
We
haven't
needed
time,
so
they're
gonna
be
needed,
so
making
them
walkers
is
add
an
expense.
So
I
would
really
really
like
them
not
to
walk
it.
It's
gonna
be
problems.
AJ
It's
gonna
cause
more
parents,
dropping
the
kids
off
more
parents,
but
you
know,
and
then
we
have
parents
who
have
a
kindergartener
and
a
third-grader.
So
one
of
the
kids
are
riding
the
glass.
The
other
one
has
to
walk.
It's
just
not
logical
for
a
family,
it's
it's!
You
know
you
got
one
parent
who's
standing
at
the
bus,
stop
with
their
five-year-old
the
other
parent
who
has
their
seven-year-old
has
to
walk.
Unless
you
know
you
want
to
give
the
parent
taking
okay,
but
you
don't
want
to
leave
the
other
corner.
AJ
AE
AJ
AJ
AJ
The
transportation
sent
a
letter
to
the
bus
stop
prior
to
ours,
that
is
on
Dubois,
Highway
and
retracted
it
because
their
Saab
is
a
valid
bus.
Stop
because
of
the
danger
of
draw
highway,
so
those
kids
will
continue
to
be
picked
up,
so
they
had
to
exempt
those
pants
and
let
their
parents
know
oh
I'm.
Sorry,
we
shouldn't
have
sent
you
the
letter.
We
take
it
back.
Your
kids
can
still
ride
the
bus,
but
the
rest
of
you
know
your
children
cannot.