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Apopka City Council Tentative Budget Hearing at City Hall on September 8, 2021 at 5:15 PM.
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B
You
continue
to
lead
us
guide
us
direct
us
in
the
way
that
you
help
us
to
go,
that
all
that
we
should
say,
and
do
we
please
and
accept
your
sight
that
it'd
be
useful
by
having
a
father
for
this
community
help
us
god
to
be
good
stewards
of
what
you
put
us
in
charge
of
these
blessings.
Yes
and
our
son
jesus
name,
amen.
B
C
Good
evening,
mayor
and
commissioners,
so
this
is
the
first
of
two
hearings
that
we
are
required
to
have
by
state
statute.
They
have
to
be
they.
We
have
to
have
these
meetings
after
five
o'clock.
That's
why
we
are
here
this
evening.
So
the
the
powerpoint
this
year
is
a
little
lengthy.
It's
a
little
longer,
I'm
going
to
make
sure
for
the
for
the
public's
view
as
well.
C
So
the
agenda
for
this
evening
is,
I
want
to
talk
about
the,
but
again
a
lot
of
this
is
is:
is
I
want
for
the
public,
it's
good
for
the
public,
so
they
have
the
information
for
those
viewers
that
we
have
that
are
at
home,
but
we
have
the
the
well.
The
agenda
will
go
through
the
budget
process
and
the
calendar
on
how
we
move
through
this.
C
The
the
proposed
budget,
we'll
talk
about
budget,
highlights
we'll
talk
about
infrastructure
improvements.
There
are
a
lot
of
infrastructure
improvements
in
this
budget,
a
lot
of
capital.
The
the
biggest
increase
in
this
budget
is
due
to
infrastructure
improvements,
whether
it
be
road
capital
projects
and
water
and
sewer
a
lot
of
water
and
sewer
projects,
major
capital
items
we'll
talk
about
those
grant
applications
outstanding.
C
If
you
recall,
we
had
we've
applied
for
lots
of
grants,
so
I
want
to
highlight
some
of
those
grants
that
we're
still
waiting
to
hear
from
we
have
not
heard
from,
and
I
want
you
to
be
aware
of
those,
because
they
are
part
of
this
budget
process
as
well,
substantial
items
that
we
excluded
in
fy
21.
If
you
recall
there
were
lots
of
several
items
in
the
21
budget
that
we
deferred
or
we
were
not.
C
Then
I
want
to
do
I'm
going
to
do
an
overview.
Last
year
we
did
an
overview
citywide
this
year.
I've
added
the
general
fund
into
that
overview
because
that's
where
the
significant
changes
have
that's,
where
we
have
some
significant
changes
that
I
want
to
be
able
to
highlight
those
general
fund
changes
and
then
we'll
follow
up
with
questions
comments
and
direction
from
the
city
council.
C
So
the
budget
calendar
is
the
trim
called
the
trim
process.
That's
the
florida
statute
that
all
governments
have
to
follow
when
setting
their
budgets.
Typically,
we
begin
in
march
and
april
when
we
start
the
budget
process,
that's
when
we
sit
down
with
the
departments
for
their
for
they
for
them
to
they
put
together
and
draft
their
budgets.
C
C
C
C
C
We
will
have
to
hold
one
more
public
hearing
by
law
and
that
meeting
is
scheduled
for
the
final
millage
rate
and
budget
is
set
for
next
wednesday
september.
The
15th
at
six
o'clock
here
at
the
city
hall,
council
chambers
and
then
our
new
fiscal
year
will
begin
on
october
1
2021,
which
represents
your
fiscal
year.
Fy
22.
C
C
The
utility
tax
rate,
if
you
recall,
was
changed
last
the
current
fiscal
year
that
we're
in
with
an
effective
date
of
july
1
that
these
rates
would
go
into
effect.
If
you
recall,
we
had
a
cap
on
our
utility
service
tax
rates.
We
were
not
allowed
to
have
that
cap
by
state
law,
so
we
made
the
adjustment
to
those
rates
to
be
in
compliance
with
state
statutes
that
change
generated
an
additional
1.1
million
dollars
in
the
current
fiscal
year.
22
budget
keep
in
mind
here
as
well
that
took
effect
on
july
1..
C
C
C
The
general
fund
currently
is
balanced
using
a
little
little
less
than
1.4
million
dollars
of
the
reserves.
Keep
in
mind.
The
reserves
at
fiscal
year
20
were
at
31.7
percent
is
where
they
were
sitting.
We
used
a
little
less
than
a
million
dollars
in
reserve
to
balance
the
21
budget,
we're
using
about
1.4
to
balance
this
budget
of
those
reserves,
and
with
that
being
said,
when
those
numbers
are,
if
those,
if
we
hit
those
targets,
our
reserves
will
be
between
22
and
25
percent.
C
The
budget
includes
a
performance-based
merit
program
of
up
to
six
percent.
That
is
included.
If
you
recall,
last
year
we
went
down
to
three
percent
due
to
all
the
the
the
covet
pandemic
and
the
the
economic
issues
that
we
had.
We,
we
were
able
to
build
in
up
to
three
percent
in
this
current
fiscal
year,
so
up
to
six
percent
will
be
included
in
the
new
fiscal
year.
C
This
is
pretty
good
compared
to
some
of
the
other
neighboring
jurisdictions.
We've
heard
their
double
digits,
so
this
is.
This
is
some
good
news
for,
for
us,
this
budget
does
include
camp
wewa.
You
will
see
it's
its
own
budget,
it's
a
separate
budget
in
here,
its
own
cost
center
and
as
we
move
through,
I
will
highlight
some
of
those
points
as
well,
but
the
full
camp
weave
is
included
in
this
budget.
C
Some
of
the
other
highlights
there
are
significant
street
improvements.
We'll
talk
about
those
as
we
go
through.
There
are
new
traffic
signals.
Several
four
to
be
at
five
to
be
to
be,
I
think,
is
where
we
are
and
we'll
we'll
highlight
those
as
we
move
through.
There
are
new
sidewalks
proposed.
As
you
know,
we
have
a
new
school
coming
in,
so
there
is
some
funding
for
new
sidewalks
sidewalk
repair.
There's
money
for
more
money
allocated
for
sidewalk
repairs,
contract
mowing
we're
continuing
our
successful
contract
mowing
program
that
continues
in
this
budget.
C
The
speed
hum
program
it
is
funded,
so
you
know
it
will
be
there
for
fy22
as
well.
There's
money
for
lighting
improvements.
If
you
recall
from
the
proposed
budget
workshops,
we
put
an
additional
400
000
so
that
we
could
do
some
some
bigger
street
lighting
improvements
and
we'll
be
bringing
those
back
to
the
city
council
when
that,
when
we
have
that,
all
that
information
street
sweeping
is
included
in
this
budget,
so
we're
continuing
that
program,
and
then
there
are
some
stormwater
improvements
that
we'll
talk
about
as
well.
C
So
those
16
positions
and
eliminated
positions
are
broken
down.
Here
you
can
see
there
are
two
communication
technician
positions
added
to
this
budget.
There's
a
code
enforcement
officer
included
another
code
enforcement
officer,
including
this
budget.
There's
a
records
clerk
for
the
city,
clerk
depart
area
in
this
budget,
there's
a
multi-code
inspector
and
a
permit
clerk.
Those
are
being
added
to
the
building
department,
sanitation
equipment
offer
operator.
If
you
recall,
from
from
the
sanitation
workshops
he
was
requesting,
josh
was
requesting
a
another
sanitation
worker
to
keep
up
with
our
growth.
C
The
next
three
positions
are
related
to
camp
wewa.
So
if
you
recall,
when
brian
did
his
presentation,
he
noted
that
there
we
would
be.
He
would
need
three
positions
to
work
with
campbell,
so
you're
going
to
have
a
camp.
We
want
a
manager
position,
that's
in
here
and
funded.
You
have
an
outdoor
recreation
specialist.
C
You
have
a
maintenance
worker
too.
Those
three
positions
are
all
funded
and
will
work
at
camp.
We
will.
There
are
two
recreation
leaders
included
in
here.
There
are
three
parks
workers,
the
parks
workers.
If
you
recall,
we
did
away
with
our
inmate
program
as
brian
presented
in
his
presentation.
We
did
away
with
the
inmate
program,
so
we
are
putting
three
parks
workers
to
keep
up
with
parks
and
recreation,
and
then
the
only
eliminated
position
was
there
was
an
accounting
specialist
position
that
was
eliminated.
C
C
This
is
a
four
million
dollar
project
and
it
is
budgeted
through
your
traffic
impact
fees,
kelly
park,
road
and
jason
dwelling
parkway.
The
new
traffic
signal.
As
you
know,
we've
been
designing
all
of
these
traffic
signals
that
you
see
coming
before
you
now.
This
is
now
the
construction
phase,
so
these
are
these
are
wrapping
up
design
and
they
will
be
bid
for
construction
in
fiscal
year.
22..
C
C
This
is
one
of
the
biggest
amounts
we've
ever
had
in
road
resurfacing
over
the
years
new
sidewalk
funding.
I
talked
about
that
there's
dollars
in
here
for
new
sidewalks.
As
you
know,
we
have
the
new
school
coming
in
on
jason
dwelling
happy
lane
that
we're
going
to
have
sidewalk
issues
that
we're
going
to
have
to
take
care
of
storm
water
and
pipelining
funding
every
year.
We
have
money
in
here.
C
C
We
have
to
go
deeper
as
you've
heard
from
public
services
on
our
wells,
and
so
this
is
major
projects.
Major,
it's
a
compliance,
it's
a
compliance
thing
lots
of
dollars,
but
but
this
is
to
go
deeper
on
those
wells
and
rehab.
Those
wells,
plymouth,
regional
water
plant
well
upgrade
there's
money
in
here
for
upgrades
west
cali
park,
road,
16-inch,
water,
main
golden
gem,
16-inch
water,
main
effie,
drive,
16-inch
water
main
and
u.s
441
16-inch
water
main.
So
these
are
big
improvements
in
that
area.
But
that's
where
we
have
a
lot
of
growth.
C
We
have
a
lot
of
developments
that
are
coming
in,
and
so
these
are
the
the
infrastructure
that
we
have
to
get
in
place
for
those
to
be
ready
for
those
lift
station
upgrades.
There's
money
in
here
to
do
our
lift
stations
so
you'll
be
able
to
you'll
you'll,
see
that
west
kelly
park
road,
12-inch
sewer
main
you
saw
the
water
mains
now
you're,
seeing
the
sewer
mains
for
those
areas,
golden
gem,
road
sewer,
main
12
inch
sewer
main
you
have
golden
gem
reclaimed
water
treatment
plant.
C
C
Plymouth,
serena
road,
you
have
a
16
inch,
reclaim
water
main.
You
have
west
kelly
park,
road,
16-inch,
water,
main
reclaimed,
water
main
and
effie
drive.
So
you
will
see
you
have
the
water,
the
sewer
and
the
reclaimed
lines
all
going
into
that
area
on
the
kelly
park
area
to
prepare
for
and
make
sure
that
we
are
ready
for
these
developments
that
are
that
are
coming.
C
Some
major
capital
items
they're
in
this
budget
fire
station
six
is
fully
funded
in
this
budget.
It
is
funded,
as
you
know,
we
have
money
from
the
legislature.
We
got
50
from
the
legislature
and
then
we're
using
the
other
50
of
our
fire
impact
fees.
So
we
were
able
to
to
to
fund
get
the
50
funding
from
the
state,
which
was
a
great
thing
and
then
for
fire.
C
There's
a
fire
engine,
a
new
fire
engine
11,
if
you
recall
it
needed
to
be
replaced,
the
fire
department
did
a
really
good
job
and
and
got
it
through
another
year,
but
it's
time
to
replace
that
one.
So
that's
in
this
budget
keep
in
mind
that
also,
as
we
talked
about
in
the
proposed
budget,
300
000
of
this
600,
almost
700
000
purchase
is
coming
from
the
monies
that
we
receive
from
duke
energy.
If
you
recall,
we
earmarked
300
000
for
this
particular
item.
C
C
C
C
C
There's
a
city
hall
parking
lot
resurfacing
is
is
funded
in
here.
There's
various
building
and
ada
improvements,
there's
funding
for
for
various
building
improvements,
so
from
fire
sprinklers
fire
alarms,
there's
funding
for
all
all
of
our
facilities
in
the
facilities
for
our
buildings
and
our
ada
compliance
issues.
For
next
year
there
is
field
lighting.
If
you
recall
from
the
proposed
budget,
there
are
two
major
projects.
C
C
C
C
But
if
it
comes
back,
for
example,
say
we
get
the
fume
event
system
for
the
fire
stations,
but
we
don't
get
the
safety
educational
trailer
and
we
want
to
fund
that
we
have.
We
can
go
to
our
reserves
to
fund
that
that
item,
because
keep
in
mind
you
can't
fund
these
items.
If
you
fund
these
items
ahead
of
the
being
awarded
the
grant,
it
could
affect
your
your
grant
award.
C
So
we've
applied
for
10
new
police
officer
positions,
we've
applied
for
the
police
officer
body
cameras-
if
you
recall
that
was
in
your
meeting
this
afternoon,
to
apply
for
those
there
are
six
firefighter
positions
in
this
budget
that
we've
applied.
For
that
we're
hoping
we
will
get.
There's
a
fume
event
system
for
five
of
the
fire
stations.
C
This
is
one
that
we
really
want.
This
is
you
know.
This
is
a
good
thing
for
our
fire
department,
and
so
this
is
what
we're
really
hoping
that
we
get.
You
might
ask
why
station
six
isn't
listed
station.
Six
will
have
this
built
into
its
construction
when
it's
built
and
then
there's
a
fire
safety,
educational
trailer.
If
you
recall
the
chief,
was
talking
about
how
this
could
be
used
with
other
jurisdictions,
from
an
educational
standpoint
on
fire
safety.
C
C
C
If
you
recall
those
six
positions
that
the
chief
presented
he's
asking
for
three
new
district
chiefs
in
that
grant
police
officers.
We
did
not
fund
police
officers
last
year,
but
we
are
applying
for
the
10
police
officers.
This
year
the
audio
video
city
council
chamber
for
the
city
council
chambers,
you've
already
funded
that
it's
already
going.
Actually,
we've
already,
I
think,
signed
the
contract,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
so
I'm
almost
sure
that
that's
there
so
computer
servers,
I
talked
to
rob
today
in
I.t.
That's
all
taken
care
of.
C
He
was
able
to
use
savings
from
the
current
year
to
get
the
servers
that
he
needed
additional
fields
for
northwest
recreation
complex.
As
you
know,
this
is
a
significant
expenditure,
but
this
is
one
that
we,
when
we
did
our
survey
with
our
for
a
recreation
component
for
our
citizens.
This
was
an
item
that
was
in
part
of
that
survey
and,
as
you
know,
the
consultant
is
doing
that
putting
that
together
now.
So
this
is
an
item
that
will
that
will
be
a
future
item.
C
C
We,
this
is
going
to
be
a
significant
purchase.
If
you
recall,
during
the
budget
workshop,
we
talked
about,
we've
got
to
have
design,
we've
got
to
have
a
design
of
what
we
study
of
what
we
need.
What
do
our
departments
need
from
fleet
to
facilities
to
streets?
What
what
all
do
they
need?
What
meets
their
needs
for
future
so
that
we
can
make
these
improvements
that
will
be
good
into
the
future?
So
what
we've
done?
The
budget,
the
fy
22
budget,
includes
funding.
C
C
That's
not!
We
didn't
do
that
last
year,
it's
not
in
the
current
budget.
We
are
looking
at
grants
trying
to
find
grants.
They
seem
to
think
there's
good
grant
opportunity
for
fiber
optic
for
fiber
replacement
and
things
of
that
nature,
so
we're
hoping
that
this
will
be
a
grant
a
good
grant
opportunity
street
resurfacing.
If
you
remember
last
year,
we
didn't
have
a
lot
to
put
into
street
resurfacing
this
year,
we're
putting
in
1.8
million
and
then
border
leg
flooding.
That
was
an
issue
that
you
know.
A
C
C
A
C
E
C
Well,
it's
a
it's
a
team
effort.
It's
a
team
effort
right.
Public
services
is
working
on
it
because
they
have
to
provide
the
data
they
have
to
provide.
You
know
all
the
engineering
specs
and
everything
like
that,
and
then
we
have
dr
jackson
works
in
our
grants
area,
so
she
will
be
helping
us
put
together
and
to
file
for
the
grants.
So
it's
kind
of
a
team
effort.
C
It
requires
everything
because
you've
got
to
have
the
engineers
to
put
all
the
stuff
together
and
design
kind
of
give
that
rough
design
that
one
of
them
required
a
1500
page.
Explanation,
1500,
word
explanation:
you
know
on
the
project
so
we're
it
takes.
You
got
to
have
the
writer
and
then
we
got
to
have
the
technical
people.
So
it's
it's
a
team
effort.
Those
are
working
together
to
apply.
A
C
C
I
don't
know,
commissioner,
we
can
get
you
that
information,
I'm
sure,
there's
a
timeline
that
says
when
they
when
they
award
those,
but
the
good
thing
about
it
is
they
met
the
definitions,
those
those
are
the
kinds
of
projects
that
they
want
in
that
it's
a
mitigation
grant
and
those
are
the
kinds
of
projects
that
it
met.
The
definition.
So,
hopefully
you
know
fingers
crossed
it'd,
be
nice
to
get
some
of
those
big
infrastructure
improvement
grants.
C
So
now
the
next
section
is
the
budget
overview.
So
this
the
next
section
that
you
will
see
these.
This
is
the
budget
for
the
city-wide.
So
this
is
all
funds
included
in
this
in
this
budget.
It's
tight.
I
know
it's
kind
of
small
to
see
the
numbers
it's
hard
to
get
them
all
on
there.
But
that's
why
you
have
it.
You
have
it
on
your
on
your
ipads
as
well,
so
that
you
can
see
it.
So
I
want
to
go
through
these
and
kind
of
highlight
some
of
the
significant
changes.
C
So
property
taxes,
as
you
can
see,
are
up
eight
percent
based
on
the
millage
rate
of
the
the
4.1876,
the
other
taxes.
As
you
know,
you
see
a
significant
increase
there
23
this
is
the
these
are
the
these.
This
is
the
municipal
service
tax.
This
is
the
additional
1.1
million
dollars
that
will
be
coming
in
through
the
electric
bills,
the
water
bills
and
the
gas
bills
permits
fees
and
special
assessments.
This
number
is
up
10.
C
C
A
C
Right
there
they're
still,
they
are
still
digging
and
still
going
through
that.
So
there
are
some
changes
there
are.
Some
of
these
revenues
include
some
of
that,
but
but
when
they
finish
going
through
that,
we'll
you'll
be
getting
a
whole
report
of
that
as
well,
so
they
our
city's,
so
spread
out.
As
you
know,
they
have
to
they've
been
from
one
end
to
the
other,
so
they've
really
been
working
and
digging
around
cove
had
set
them
back
a
little
bit
because
there
are
employees
out
in
the
field.
C
C
The
impact
fees
you
can
see.
Impact
fees
are
up
32
percent.
That
is
huge,
that
is
your
traffic
impact
fees.
Your
water
sewer
impact
fees
are
mainly
why
you
have
such
a
significant
increase
there,
because
with
the
development,
as
you
know,
the
impact
fees
are
a
lot
higher,
as
the
developments
are
approved.
C
It's
I
also
want
to
point
out
here
too,
we
are
having
the
water
rates
and
the
impact
fees
are
both
being
reviewed.
Now
they
should
come
back
to
you.
They
will
come
back
to
you
before
the
holidays,
we're
hoping
with
covet.
Everything
has
been
delayed.
It's
it's.
I
know
we
say
that
over
and
over
and
over,
but
it's
just
you
know,
it's
we've
had
delays
in
that
as
well,
but
that
you
should
be
seeing
that
really
really
soon
interest
income
or
investment
income.
C
C
C
C
For
the
resurfacing
program
grants
you
have
three
million
dollars
in
grants,
these
a
million
of
this
or
a
million
fourteen
of
their
million
yeah
a
million
fourteen
thousand
of
this
is
for
fire
station
six
and
then
the
other
two
million
is
the
fifty
percent
cost
share
that
we
have
with
st
john's
water
management
district
for
some
of
the
infrastructure
projects
on
the
golden
gem
plant
and
the
lines
out
there
and
then
the
reserves-
you
might
say.
Oh
my
gosh,
we
went
from
14
to
27
of
the
reserves.
C
Well,
this
you
saw
the
reserves
in
the
general
fund
are
about
1.4
million
that
we're
using,
but
the
the
additional
reserve
here
is
mainly
your
impact
fee
funds
and
that's
very
common
across
organizations,
because
you
collect
a
lot
of
those
impact
fee
funds
today
to
build
that
infrastructure.
You
can't
build
all
that
infrastructure
in
the
same
year
that
you
collect
it.
So
we've
collected
these
impact
fees
for
developments,
and
now
we
will
apply
it
to
those
projects
from
transportation,
water,
wastewater.
C
You
could,
but
it
has
to
it's
reserved,
because
when
you
bound
when
you
look
at
the
fund
by
itself,
you
have
impact
fees
that
you're
collecting
for
the
current
year
and
then
you
have
to
use
the
reserve
because
it
went
into
when
the
year
closed
out.
It
went
into
the
reserves.
So
it's
a
result.
It
has
to
come
from
the
reserve
balance
so
that
you
don't
double
count
the
impact
fees
for
year
to
year.
C
So
what
you'll
see
when
you
look
in
the
impact
fee
fund
you'll
see
the
impact
fees
for
the
current
year
collected,
which
is
that
number
that
impact
fee
that
10
million
you
see
an
impact
fees
there.
That's
actual
impact.
Things
are
going
to
be
collected
in
the
current
fiscal
year,
but
the
the
20
part
of
the
27
reserve
is
actually
impact
these
that
were
collected
in
prior
years
and
when
you
look
at
each
fund
separately
on
the
waterfront
or
the
water
impact
fee
fund,
the
police
impact
fee
found
the
fire
impact
fight.
C
So
that
being
said,
the
city-wide
summary
of
revenues
is
just
a
little
over
130
million
dollars
or
20
to
almost
20
to
almost
23
percent
increase
from
the
prior
year.
If
you
recall,
last
year,
our
budget
was
105,
almost
106
million
dollars
and
again
that
significant
increase
is
due
to
a
lot
of
infrastructure,
capital
projects
and
infrastructure
projects
that
we
are
doing,
that
that
we
have
budgeted
for
fy22.
C
The
streets
improvement
fund
is
48
percent
increase.
Again,
a
lot
of
that
is
due
because
we
are
putting
money
into
there.
We
are
putting
money
in
there
for
street
resurfacing,
so
transferring
a
million
dollars
into
that
fund
traffic
impact
fee
fund
went
from
3.8
million
to
5.6
million.
Again
you
saw
those
all
those
traffic
lights,
harman
road
extension,
those
are
are
very
big
capital
projects,
and
so
there's,
why
that's?
Why
you
have
that?
I'm
sorry,
it's
7.4
or
2.4
to
7.5.
C
C
C
Storm
water,
the
storm
water
fund,
is
down
a
little
bit.
It's
I
want
to
stop
in
a
moment
for
this
fund.
This
is
a
fund
also,
where
we've
had
some
issues
that
you.
As
you
know,
we
have
a
study
ongoing
and,
though
they're
putting
together
the
consultants,
putting
together
a
workshop
to
come
back
and
and
present
all
of
that
to
you,
but
one
of
the
things
we
did
in
this
fund
this
year
that
we
felt
we
needed
to
do
is
put
people
in
this
fund.
We
didn't
have
any
people
in
this
fund.
C
We
had
or
any
positions
we
had
positions
in
the
utility
fund.
That
would
help
out-
and
do
you
know,
storm
water,
restoration
or
whatever,
but
getting
prepared
for
the
future
in
this
fund,
we're
to
be
able
to
do
the
maintenance
and
improvements
on
the
stormwater
system,
we're
going
to
have
to
have
positions
in
this
fund.
C
So
we've
used
them
now,
but
we've
got
to
get
them
into
the
right
fund
so
that
they
can
be
dedicated
to
that
storm
water
fund,
because
that's
an
area
where
we've
had.
We
need
to
make
improvement
that
and
we
know
we
need
to
make
we've
known.
We
need
to
make
improvements
on
that,
so
the
study
will
come
back.
I
don't
know
what
the
study
will
come
back
at
I
I
will
tell
you.
I
think
it's
going
to
come
back
in
more
than
two
people.
C
I
think
it's
going
to
take
more
than
two
people
to
work
in
our
storm
water
fund,
but
again
that'll.
They
will
bring
that
back
to
you
with
with
the
with
that
study
on
how
to
to
keep
up
in
compliance
with
our
storm
water.
I
will
say,
though,
that
public
service
has
done
a
really
good
job.
They've
really
done
a
lot
of
work
with
the
two
guys
and
then
richard
erp,
our
engineer
has
done
really
good
working
with
our
ms4
permit,
getting
it
compliant,
keeping
all
of
it
up
to
date.
C
Commissioner,
I,
since
we
haven't,
spent
any
of
that
without
those
dollars.
I've
we've
maintained
that
revenue
number
it's
been
a
little
more
than
that,
but
that
money's
been
going
into
reserves
anyway.
So
whatever
dollars
coming
in,
we
don't.
We
haven't
earmarked
any
projects
for
that
fund,
yet
we're
holding
that
for
future,
like
with
fire
we're
using
those
dollars
for
a
future
station.
So
we
could
budget
that
higher
it's
just
going
to
go
into
the
reserves
anyway.
So
we've.
F
C
C
C
We
could
increase
that
and
inflate
that
I
mean
I
could
we
could
increase
that
number.
We
could
budge
that
number
to,
I
don't
know
closer
to
700
000.
It
goes
into
the
reserve
anyway,
until
you
guys
decide
which
project
you
want
to
spend
it
on.
So
because
there's
no
expenditure
side
to
that.
It
all
just
goes
into
the
reserves.
F
Anyway,
the
point
being
made
is
this:
is
our
city-wide,
what
we're
budgeting
that
we're
expecting
to
see
as
a
revenue
intake,
regardless
of
what
we
do
with
the
money?
This
is
what
we
feel
is
going
to
come
into
us.
If
anything,
it
should
be
flat
against
20
versus
flat
to
say
all
right,
we're
just
going
to
allocate
255
year
over
year
every
year,
because
that's
not
reality.
Reality
is
going
to
dictate
that
development
is
increasing,
so
our
impact
fees
should
steadily
increase.
C
And
we
could
do
that
you're
right,
so
we
I
mean
we
could.
We
could
look
at
the
exp,
see
what
that
number
will
be
and
we
could
increase
that
number
and
then
it
would
change
the
revenue
side.
It
won't
touch
the
expenditure
side,
but
we
could
could
put
it
on
the
revenue
side
so
now
you're
correct.
We
could
do
that
so
that
you
can
see
that
number
the
grant
fund
it
a
big
jump
in
the
grant
fund.
C
But,
like
I
talked
about
that's
the
million
dollars
that
we
put
in
the
grant,
we
put
all
of
the
rescue
money
in
there,
so
we
could
keep
track
of
it
and
now
we're
transferring
a
million
of
it
out
special
assessment
fund.
It
went
from
63
000
to
174
000,
almost
175
000
martin's
place.
If
you
remember
the
retention
pond,
we
now
have
the
special
assessment
that
we
set
to
pay
back
the
stormwater
fund
for
the
improvements
that
we
made
to
their
retention
pond,
so
they're
paying
that
back
over
time.
C
C
C
Some
of
those
additional
revenues
that
we
received
from
water
office
of
america
have
given
us
some
increases
in
some
of
these
lines.
So
most
of
this
increases
growth
because
again,
as
you
know,
there's
no
rate
increase
for
the
utility
customers.
We're
waiting
for
that
study
to
come
back
to
see
where
these
rates
line.
Up
with,
with
our
expenditure
side,
the
utility
impact
fee
fund,
13
million
to
17
million
additional
4
million
dollars,
and
again
this
is
for
all
of
those
water
lines.
You
saw
the
treatment
plant,
the
airport
is
zero.
C
Hopefully
we
hope
to
close
on
the
airport.
We
were
hoping
we
would
close
this
week,
we're
still
hoping
but
everything
all
the
documents
have
been.
The
attorneys
have
looked
all
the
documents
everybody's
going
with
the
documents
you
guys
approved
the
contract.
So
hopefully
we
will
close
real
soon,
so
you
will
see
no
budget
for
for
the
airport
fund
and
then
the
sanitation
fund
is
up
one
and
a
half
percent.
This
increase
is
mainly
due
to
we
added
a
position.
C
C
So
what
does
that
look
like?
Overall?
If
I
look
at
my
revenues
overall,
it
shows
that
property
tax
represent
a
little
over
13
percent
of
the
funding.
Charges
for
services
represent
almost
25
percent
intergovernmental
revenues,
which
are
a
lot
of
those
are
your
state
sales
tax
that
represents
almost
nine
a
little
more
than
nine
percent
transfers,
seven
percent,
so
impact
fees,
seven
and
three
quarter,
and
then
so
on
and
so
forth.
C
C
C
So
you
can
see
on
all
this
other
funds,
smaller
funds
that
make
up
the
whole,
so
that
was
the
revenue
side.
So,
on
the
expenditure
side,
you
will
see
that
personnel
services
are
up
six
and
a
half
percent
again.
This
is
due
to
the
six
percent
up
to
six
percent
performance.
Pay
is,
is
back
in
the
budget.
C
C
Debt
service
is
down,
so
you
can
see
that
we
haven't
issued
any
new
debt
and
we've
really
reduced
the
debt
service.
I
think
we've
reduced
it
about
65
percent
from
2018
and
we've.
The
overall
debt
service
yearly
does
service.
Has
been
reduced
by
about
1.4
million
dollars
per
year
again,
keep
in
mind
as
we
set
ourselves
on
the
we're
looking
at
the
horizon,
we're
looking
out
to
the
public
safety
complex
that
we're
looking
at.
C
C
This
will
put
us
in
in
good
shape
for
future
debt
service
capital
outlay
up
big
time,
90,
like
I
said
this
budget
year,
this
budget
is
very
infrastructure.
Capital
improvement
intensive,
as
you
saw
as
we
went
through
those
slides.
There
are
lots
of
lots
of
infrastructure
improvements,
big
infrastructure
improvements,
contributions
are
down,
so
I
kind
of
want
to
explain
that,
so
you
would
kind
of
have
an
idea
what
that
is.
If
you
recall,
when
we
did.
D
C
That
contract
was
we
had
to
make
all
the
improvements,
whether
they
were
fdot's
improvements
or
cities.
Improvements.
As
you
know,
mcgee
is
our
road,
so
we
were
able
to
capitalize
the
money,
the
dollars
that
we
spent
of
our
impact
fees
for
that
portion,
but
we
had
to
do
contributions
for
the
other
portion
because
we
had
to
contribute
those
dollars
to
fdot
because
it's
their
road.
We
made
the
improvements
and
stuff,
but
they
it's
their
asset,
it's
their
road.
So.
D
C
C
So
a
lot
of
transfers
that
we're
moving
into
other
funds
and
the
biggest
one,
of
course,
is
the
the
road
resurfacing
and
then
contingency,
the
220
000.
This
is
money
we're
putting
back
into
the
reserves.
So,
commissioner,
becker
to
your
point
on
the
police,
if
we
increase
that
that
police
revenue
to
to
maybe
get
a
little
closer
to
what
we
think
the
estimate
might
be,
we'll
increase
this
line
too,
to
put
it
in
contingency,
so
it'll
be
in
reserves
for
future
projects.
Yeah.
F
And
while
you're
looking
at
that,
because
the
the
fire
impact
fee,
the
2.033
million
that
includes
the
state
funding
and
our
match-
is
that
correct?
So
if
you
back
that
out
and
normalize
what
it
would
be,
irrespective
of
that,
then
it
would
only
be
33k
so
that
that
seems
off
so
that
number
I
feel,
needs
to
be
higher
as
well.
C
C
C
You
can
see
that
general
government
is
7.9
million
almost
flat
compared
to
the
prior
year,
and
can
your
general
government
services
are
the
mayor
commissioner's
office,
their
finance,
your
hr?
Those
are
your
general
services
I.t,
then
community
development
that
is
actually
building
community
development
and
building.
You
can
see
that
it's
up
a
little
bit.
Eight
percent
again,
we
remember
we
added.
We
had
two
positions
in
the
building
department.
C
C
Public
safety
is
up
17,
31
million
to
30
almost
37
million.
Again,
those
are
a
lot
of
capital.
You
have
the
fire
engine,
you
have
the
ambulance,
and
then
you
have
the
police
vehicles
for
the
police,
ongoing
current
police
officers
and
then
the
ones
that
we've
applied
for
in
the
grant
the
public
services.
That
budget
is
up
38.
C
C
Storm
water,
not
a
very
big
increase,
it's
kind
of
maintaining
like
it
was
last
year
again
keep
in
mind.
This
does
not
include
two
people
in
this
fund.
For
the
first
time,
we've
actually
had
people
in
this
fund
community
redevelopment.
This
again
is
your
cra
approved
budget.
So
this
is
the
cra
dollars
of
3.2
million
the
special
assessment
districts
139
000.
This
pays
for
all
of
those
special
assessments
that
those
homeowners
are
paying
the
debt
service
and
transfers.
C
C
Happens
is
your
your
utility
funds,
your
enterprise
funds,
I
should
say
which
is
your
utility
in
your
storm
on
your
sanitation
fund.
They
they
do
not
have
their
own
hr
finance
department.
They
use
the
ones
that
are
paid
for
out
of
the
general
fund.
They
use
the
the
ones
that
are
that
we
pay
for
they're
paid
through
taxes
general
fund.
So
what
you?
What
what
you
have
is
you
do
what
they
call?
You
have
to
do:
a
transfer,
an
administrative
transfer
from
those
funds
to
the
funds
that
provide
that
service.
C
It
happens
to
be
the
general
fund
in
our
case,
so
that
you,
that
is
a
pretty
complicated
process
to
do
that,
because
you've
got
to
be
able
to
match
up.
You
have
to
have
a
good,
a
good
basis
and
a
good
reason
to
match
up
how
much
you're
transferring
out
of
one
finding
to
the
other
because
keep
in
mind
in
your
enterprise
funds
you're
setting
rates
based
on
what
it
really
costs
to
provide
water
garbage
service
to
that
citizen,
and
it's
important
because
a
lot
of
times
ours.
C
We
have
a
lot
of
citizens
that
we
provide
water,
sewer
and
reclaimed
water
to
that.
Don't
pay
city
taxes
because
they
live
in
the
county.
So
you
got
to
be
very
careful.
You
want
to
make
sure
that
those
rates
and
that
utility
fund
are
reflective
of
what
it
really
costs
to
provide
service
to
those
to
those
customers,
and
so
that's
why
it's
a
very
complicated
issue,
and
so
that's
why
we've
asked
the
consultant
and
they're
doing
this
as
part
of
their
process
supposed
to
bring
this
back
to
you
to
show
you.
C
This
is
what
the
transfer
should
be,
based
on
all
the
data
that
they've
seen
and
looked
at
all
of
our
what
it
cost
to
provide
the
service.
They
will
bring
all
that
back
to
you
and
say
this
is
what
that
transfer
will
be.
What
will
that
number
be?
I
don't
know
currently
it's
about
little
over
6
million
dollars
coming
out
of
the
utility
fund.
Well,
that's
a
big
number.
When
you
look
at
you
know
the
utility
system
of
32
million
six
million
is
a
big
number
and
it
may
be
right.
It
may
be
low.
C
I
don't
we
won't
know
when
they
bring.
That
back
is
when
we'll
be
able
to
see
what
that
actual
number
should
be.
So
we've
kept
that
steady,
because
normally
what
you
would
do
in
a
transfer-
and
I
and
I'm
hoping
they're
going
to
bring
this
back
and
I
think
they
will
you
bring
that
back
and
has
an
inflation
factor
each
year
so
because
those
services
on
the
general
fund
side
are
increasing
every
year
for
personnel
services
insurance
whatever,
so
that
number
should
increase
every
year
as
well.
C
A
C
See-
and
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
information
on
that
so,
but
you
can
go
back
and
look
in
the
years
and
they'll
you'll
see
that
I'm
sure
they'll
bring
you
that
you'll
see
where
for
a
couple
years
it
actually
jumped
up
at
a
million
dollars
in
each
one
of
those
years,
and
it's
we
don't.
We
don't
know
where
there
may
be
a
reason.
I
don't
know
we
don't
have.
We
don't
see
that.
But
that's
why
we
need
the
consultant
to
tell
us
what
that
number
should
be
so.
F
But
it
is,
I
mean,
so
we
know
the
actual
cost
for
utilities.
We
know
how
much
it
costs
per
gallon
of
water
used
reclaim
versus
potable.
We
know
you
know
how
much
it
costs
to
pick
up
garbage.
That's
the
easy
part
of
that
equation
right.
So
what
you're
trying
to
solve
for
is
the
allocation
expense
or
the
shared
services
on
the
general
fund
side.
So
how
much
does
it
take
finance
to
do
some
of
the
work
that
it
takes
to
do
all
the
math
behind
all
that
exactly
how
much
does
it
cost?
F
C
Yeah
yeah
it'll
be
those
it'll,
be
those
pieces
too.
Usually
what
I've
seen
in
the
past.
What
they've
done
is
they'll.
Take
that
overall
cost
so
so
hr
costs
this
x
number
they'll.
Look
at
that
and
they'll
say:
okay,
your
hr
is
increasing
by
six
percent
every
year,
but
I
don't
know
I'm
going
to
say:
60
of
hr
is
public
services
because
of
the
number
of
employees
and
the
what
it
takes
for
that
the
amount
of
service
that
hr
provides
for
those
kinds
of
employees
turn
over.
F
Right
because
one
shared
service
should
be
able
to
get
to
an
allocation
expense
back
over,
they
should
be
able
to
charge
an
allocation
to
that
department
right
and
what
that
allocation.
When
all
that
adds
up,
and
then
you
just
use
your
number
of
clients
as
your
denominator,
that
should
give
you
a
loose
indication
of
what
your
average
cost
per
utility
customer
is
right,
regardless
of
whether
or
not
they're
a
tax,
paying
client
or
not.
It's
just
the
raw
expense
per
that
customer
right.
C
Right,
okay,
and
so
this
will
be,
and
so
that's
why
we've
asked
them
as
part
of
this
process
to
put
that
together
because
keep
in
mind
when
they
do
rate
studies
too.
For
your
utilities,
you
gotta,
the
debt
service
is
exactly
the
same
way
as
well.
Part
of
the
debt
service
can
be
paid
with
impact
fees,
because
it's
a
capacity,
it's
increasing
capacity,
part
of
it's
not
because
part
of
it
you've
redone
a
plan.
That's
related
to
operating
current
customers
are
using.
That
plan
have
used
that
plan.
Therefore
they
are
responsible
for
so
this.
C
This
study
we've
asked
them
to
do
all
of
these
things,
so
that
we've
got
a
nice
allocation
of
how
all
of
these
the
because
you're
right.
Commissioner,
we
know
that
the
easy
expenses
are.
We
know
the
salaries.
We
know
the
operating
that
cost
in
that
function.
It's
these
and
these
expenses
that
require
a
little
more
in-depth
analysis
so
that
you
can
explain
how
you're,
how
you're
allocating
them
and
what
they've
done
is
what
which
is
good
about
the
consultant
is.
C
And
usually,
when
that's
set,
you
don't
review
it
again
for
like
five
years,
because
you
have
they'll
tell
you.
This
is
the
number
I
don't
know
it's
six
million,
but
each
year
you
need
to
increase
it
by
six
percent
and
then
in
five
years,
we'll
come
back
and
review
it
and
see
if
it's.
If
it's
changed.
C
So
utility
system-
I
talked
about
that-
let's
see
airport
sanitation.
I
talked
about
that
and
then
of
course
I
talked
about
the
reserve.
So,
as
you
can
see,
this
budget
is
balanced
at
130
million
a
little
over
130
million
for
fiscal
year
22..
This
is
all
encompassing.
This
is
everything
so
on
the
expenditure
side
from
a
picture
standpoint,
what
does
it
look
like?
38
percent
of
our
budget
of
our
total
city
budget
goes
to
our
personnel.
C
C
H
C
This
is
the
big
operating
fund.
This
is
the
main
fun
fund
of
the
city
that
that
funds
everything,
but
your
utility
and
your
sanitation
and
then
your
street,
your
special
revenue
fund.
So
I
want
to
just
kind
of
go
through
here
quickly,
because
we've
had
a
few
changes
since
the
proposed
budget.
I
told
you
I
wanted
to
to
call
those
out
for
you,
property
taxes
are
7.3
percent
or
there's
that
1.1
million
dollars
in
additional
revenue
from
the
property
tax
value
increase
the
utility
tax
electric.
C
C
This
number
has
always
been
going
down
and
I
got
a
little
shocked
because
when
they
gave
me
this
number
and
it
was
up
12
percent-
I
was
like
I
think
you
gave
me
the
wrong
number,
because
we've
seen
telecommunication
service
tax
numbers.
The
legislature's
made
a
lot
of
adjustments
to
this
over
the
years,
but
we've
always
seen
this
decline
with
streaming
and
everything.
That's
that's
coming
on,
so
they
don't
have
a
big
explanation.
C
I
think
you
know
kind
of
my
opinion
as
I
look
at
this,
and
I
don't
think
this
is
going
to
last,
but
I
don't
know
it
could
with
coven
the
way
it's
changed
things.
Maybe
more
people
can
do
things
from
home.
Therefore,
they'll
have
a
bigger
communications
bill
and
so
therefore
we'll
our
we
receive
a
tax
off
of
that
bill
as
well.
There's
a
tax
on
that
bill,
and
so
maybe
this
is
you
know
the
future.
C
C
F
Point
to
be
made
on
the
the
property
taxes-
it's
not
necessarily
to
say,
7.4
on
any
individual
home
owner
perspective.
It's
just
the
aggregate.
This
correct
the
aggregate
revenue
similar
to
the
utility,
the
utility
was
organic
and
organic
growth
same
thing
here:
organic
inorganic
growth,
co-mingled
there
and
the
net
effect
top
line
is
the
7.38.
C
The
only
thing
here
is
the
maximum
that
you
could
receive
as
a
as
a
residential
customer
with
a
homestead
exemption
is
three
percent,
so
does
that
mean
everybody
got
three
percent?
No,
some
could
get
two
some
can,
but
the
maximum
that
someone
could
get
is
three
percent
right
on
the
commercial
side,
it's
different.
Of
course.
You
know,
I
think
it's
got.
D
C
C
You
mean
that's
what
I
thought
licenses
and
permits
you
can
see
it's
up,
eight
percent
again,
it's
all
building
permits.
This
is
a.
This
is
one
of
those
where
you
kind
of
throw
a
dart.
You
don't
really
know
how
many
projects
are
going
to
get
approved,
how
much
what,
when
the
timing
and
everything
so
there's
that's
an
increase
there.
C
That
number
changes
a
lot
because
a
lot
of
people
prepay
permit
things.
So
it's
kind
of
one
that
you
have
to
watch.
This
is
a
critical
one.
I
think
we
need
to
watch.
As
you
know,
from
the
1
30
meeting
I
talked
about
the
sales
tax
number
is
still
short:
a
half
a
million
dollars
based
on
the
estimate
they
gave
us
last
year,
which
is
critical
because
we
have
to
make
that
up
somehow
in
our
budget
so
but
going
forward
into
the
new
fiscal
year.
C
You
can
see
that
almost
200
000
in
additional
state
revenue
sharing
number
and
what
six
hundred
thousand
no
or
five
hundred
I
have
it
written
on
here
I
have
to
so
you
can
see,
I
wanna
make
sure
so
560.
so
a
little
over
200
and
560..
So
you
can
see
a
little
more
than
about
750
760
000
more
in
the
estimate
that
they
gave
us
from
the
july
meeting
to
this
meeting.
C
A
C
C
Fines
and
forfeitures
is
very
flat:
miscellaneous
revenue
again
just
interest
income-
it's
not
a
big
number,
but
tweak
that
number
down
a
little
bit
based
on
rates
and
then
your
non-operating
revenue.
So
this
is
your
transfers
and
reserves.
You
can
see
here
that,
like
I
said
earlier
last
year,
we
used
926
dollars
of
the
reserves
this
year,
we're
using
about
1.4
million
dollars
of
the
reserves
to
balance
the
budget.
C
Again,
we've
put
money
in
those
reserves
over
the
last
couple
years
so
and
we've
also
our
staff
done
a
remarkable
job
holding
up
on
things
trying
to
make
sure
you
know
that
we
can
see
where
we're
going
to
fall
out
with
fy20
fy21
so
that
you
know
we
wouldn't
have
any
other
significant
shortfalls,
and
so
some
of
these
dollars
are
dollars
that
are
coming
forward
to
finish
some
some
projects
that
that
we
didn't
do
in
that
year,
funding
from
restricted
reserve.
This
is
a
new
number.
C
From
the
expense
side,
legal
and
risk
is
down
it's
a
significant
from
the
on
the
general
government
side.
This
is
related
to
insurance.
The
funding
that
we
had
for
insurance
on
our
insurance
program.
We've
actually
had
a
little
higher
budget
in
prior
years,
so
this
is
very
good,
so
we've
been
able
to
to
have
some
savings
here
and
then
information
technology
is
up
11.
C
So
if
you
recall,
when
rob
did
his
presentation,
he
had
some
significant
capital
things
that
he
was
doing
for
some
of
the
other
departments
for
public
safety,
and
so
this
is
where
most
of
his
increase
comes
from
public
safety
side.
You
can
see.
Fire
is
up
1.3
million
dollars
over
prior
over
the
prior
year,
13.9
to
15.2.
C
F
I
know
parks
and
like
what
am
I
thinking
ground
grounds
and
things
like
that.
You
know.
There's
been
some
fluctuation
in
terms
of
what
funds
certain
people
are
in,
like
fire
suppression,
ems
kind
of
fluctuated
a
little
bit.
You
know
some
of
these
other
are
all
of
the
previous
years,
actuals
and
previous
years
budgets
normalized
to
that
movement.
C
Those
movements,
no
they're,
not
the
budgets-
are
set
for
when
you
set
them,
so
so
in
this
one.
In
this
case,
commissioner,
if
you
look
like
so
if
we
go
back
here,
these
are
the
actuals
that
were
spent
in
each
one
of
those
cost
centers.
This
is
the
actual
budget
that
was
adopted
for
those
cost
centers,
and
then
this
is
the
new
budget.
That's
adopted.
These
numbers
have
not
been
touched.
This
is
the
original
adopted
budget
right
so.
F
Those
are
going
to
be
some
point
so
for
funds
that
had
material
movements
over
the
last
two
or
say
three
years,
the
percent
column.
The
percent
variance
really
isn't
as
important.
I
guess
right
because
if
we're
saying
a
47
growth
and
that
the
first
two
columns
are
static
and
they
don't
reflect
any
changes
that
go
between,
let's
say,
suppression
and
ems,
then
it
you
know
highlighting
47
percent
becomes
right.
C
You're
exactly
right-
and
I
only
do
that
because
that
you
can
show
where
a
big
expenditure
item
went
from
when
you're
the
next
but
you're
right.
Overall,
if
you
look
at
this
you're
looking
at
the
9.3,
okay,
so
and
then
for
from
the
police
side,
you
can
see
this
is
12.7
and
again
the
the
big
significant
piece
of
police
on
the
on
the
police
side
are
the
10
vehicles
and
the
equipment
for
the
10
police
officers.
That
will
be
our
share.
Should
we
get
those
10
10
officers
and
then
dispatch?
C
C
From
community
development,
this
is
your
planning
and
building
department,
our
building
division,
it's
up
188.
The
biggest
increase
here
is
building
department
because
of
the
inspector
that
we've
added
for
growth
we've
had
the
inspector
in
the
permit
recreation
parks
and
recreation.
This
is
the
one
which
is
when
you're
talking
about
where
we
started
collapsing
things.
When
you
put
things
together
it
it,
it
does
kind
of
the
number.
C
C
Debt
service
is
down,
as
you
can
see,
679
000
again
we're
paying
off
some
of
the
the
prior
debt,
some
of
the
vehicle
debt
that
we
had
are
starting
to
come
off
the
books.
If
you
recall,
when
we,
we
did
the
duke
energy
settlement,
we
had
talked
about
paying
off
the
recreation
loan.
It
is
in
this
number,
so
that
was
about
six
hundred
thousand
dollars.
So
it
is
included
in
this
number
because
we're
not
we're
not
going
to
use
those
dollars
for
this
item
and
then
transfers
are
at
445.
C
again.
This
transfer
is
all
to
the
streets
fund
and,
if
you
recall
in
your
last
budget
in
21,
you
moved
an
additional
455
000
from
the
general
fund,
the
property
tax
increase
that
we
put
in
last
year
that
we
left
the
rate
we
took
that
additional
455
and
put
it
into
that
street
fund,
because
that's
where
you
directed
the
staff
to
put
it
for
ongoing
mowing
and
things
of
that
nature,
you
can
see
it's
still
in
that
fund,
so
it
was
a
million
last
year
we're
continuing
to
it's
an
additional
400.
C
and
then,
and
then
percentage
and
I'll.
Tell
you
why
that
is,
but
the
400
that
I
talked
about
earlier
was
transferring
that
restricted
money
from
the
general
fund
to
the
streets
fund
for
street
lighting.
So
that's
why
it's
up
400
000
and
then
the
45
000
is:
there
is
a
percentage
of
the
state
revenue
sharing
dollars.
C
So
that
being
said,
you
can
see
that
the
general
fund
is
balanced
at
58
and
a
half
little
more
than
58
and
a
half
million
dollars
or
11
almost
12
percent
for
a
total
of
6.1
million
dollars
from
one
year
to
the
next.
So
a
very
big
increase
in
our
general
fund
from
from
last
year
to
this
year
and
again,
keep
in
mind
a
lot
of
that-
and
I
want
to
point
this
out-
is
the
utility
service
tax
that
increase
of
1.1
million
dollars
is
just
this
year?
C
I
shouldn't
say
it
that
way:
it
will
continue
and
it
should
continue
in
previous
year
in
future
years.
It
won't
be
a
million
1.1
every
year.
So
I
just
want
you
to
kind
of
keep
that
in
mind:
it'll,
be
whatever
the
growth
rate
is
for
year
to
year,
but
this
year
is
benefiting
from
an
additional
1.1
million
dollars
because
of
that
number
in
that
tax.
C
So
so
all
right
so
from
the
general
side,
we'll
look
at
the
graphs
on
the
general
side,
you
can
see,
taxes
represent,
almost
41
percent
of
our
budget
comes
from
taxes
licenses
and
permits.
12
percent
come
from
licenses
and
permits
intergovernmental
revenues,
almost
20
percent.
That's
your
sales
tax
and
revenues
that
come
from
other
agencies,
other
mainly
the
state
charges
for
service
are
seven
percent.
Again.
These
are
the
recreation
fees,
your
ambulance,
transport
fees,
fines
and
forfeitures
is
a
small
amount.
C
So
it's
a
significant
piece
of
the
budget,
but
again
we
provide
services
to
those
funds
as
well
and
then
transfer
from
restricted
reserves.
Those
are
the
those
reserve
numbers
that
are
assigned
to
they're,
not
unassigned,
fund
balance
but
they're
restricted
and
assigned.
So
we
have
to
spend
them
where
they're,
where
the
the
laws
and
ordinances
require
us
to
spend
them.
So
that's
why
they're
there
and
then
transfer
from
reserves
you
can
see
is
is
represents.
2.4.
C
On
the
expenditure
side,
public
safety
is
almost
59
percent
of
the
budget,
so
finances
represents,
1.8
administration
represents
11.6
transfer
out
two
and
a
half
percent
of
the
dollars
go
to
transfer
almost
four
percent.
It
goes
to
debt
service,
public
services,
which
is
fleet
and
facilities,
represents
about
four
or
five
percent
recreation.
Again,
recreation
has
been
covering
around
ten.
It's
now
eleven,
because
we've
added
camp
wewa,
we've
added
the
revenue,
we've
added
the
expenditure
for
camp.
We
will
and
then
community
development
represents
about
4.6.
C
So
that
is
the
presentation.
As
far
as
the
budget
again,
we've
had
the
workshops.
I
tried
to
point
out
all
of
the
significant
items
I
wanted.
I
tried
to
do
a
very
good
job
to
make
sure
that
I
got
all
of
the
the
items
that
that
we
had
from
the
workshops
and
had
them
included
in
the
budget.
I've
listened
to
a
lot
of
your
concerns
and
your
issues-
and
I
know
lighting
street
lighting
signage
striping
are
very,
very
critical.
C
Are
very
that's
what
I've
been
hearing
a
lot,
and
so
I
tried
we
tried
storm
water,
that's
why
we
moved
those
two
people
in
there.
So
we
tried
really
really
hard
to
make
sure
we
could
get
all
of
those
concerns
that
we've
been
hearing,
sidewalks
new
sidewalks
traffic
lights,
so
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
have
all
of
those
infrastructure
improvements,
because
that's
what
we've
been
hearing
a
lot
and
and
wanted
to
make
sure
we
have
those.
I
want
to
thank
the
the
city
council
for
your
direction
as
well.
C
C
I
don't
think
we've
sacrificed
much
in
the
way
of
of
things,
because
we've
either
delayed
them
and
we've
put
them
in
the
budget
now
going
forward
and,
as
you
can
see
from
fy21,
it's
always
important.
I
think,
to
look
back
and
see
what
couldn't
we
do
last
year
that
we
wanted
to
do
and
you
can
see
in
22
we've
done
a
lot
of
those
things
taking
care
of
our
employees.
I
think,
is
very,
very
important.
C
Yes,
we
had
to
cut
the
merit
pay
back
because
it
was
tough
times
those
revenues
you
know
were
down,
but
I
I
think
it's
a
a
great
thing.
You
know
that
we
are
able
to
reward
performance
for
our
employees
going
forward.
This
is
the
first
budget,
where
we've
actually
added
people
in
other
areas
where
we've
needed
people
code
enforcement
was
an
issue
that
we
were
kind
of
stretched
building
was
was
kind
of
stretched
a
little
bit
the
city
clerk's
office.
C
C
Does
it
give
everybody
everything
they
want?
No,
but
I
think
it's
it's.
I
think
when
you
look
at
our
service
levels
within
our
departments,
we
know
that
we've
had
issues
in
our
police
department
with
response
times
based
on
and
for
several
years
we've
haven't
been
adding
anybody
to
the
police
depart
any
positions
of
police
department.
I
think
that's
critical,
especially
in
a
time
we're
in
right
now.
I
do
think.
I
hope
that
we
can
get
the
grant.
C
I
think
that
would
be
one
of
the
best
things
we
could
get
if
we
can
get
those
positions
keep
in
mind
that
grant.
I
think
is
a
three-year
period,
so
it'll
fund
it
now,
but
we're
going
to
have
to
remember
in
future
years
that
that
will
become
part
of
our
budget,
and
so
it
will
be
as
we
move
through
the.
If
we
get
those
positions-
and
we
add
them
on
it,
will
it
will
be
a
cost
that
we
have
to
do
we
have
to
absorb
we
have
to
take.
C
I
wish
we
worked
faster,
but
with
a
pandemic
it
slowed
us
way
down
and
taking
care
of
our
employees
was
most
important
at
that
time,
but
I
know
we
had
a
lot
of
leaking
roofs,
I'm
glad
to
say
that
now
we
have
put
on
the
roof
at
the
finance
and
utility
billing
office
at
the
annex,
so
I
think
roof
wise
we're
doing
pretty
good.
I
think
we
got
some
good
new
roofs
all
around
the
city,
so
hopefully
we
won't
have
any
leaking
problems.
Do
we
need
some
make
some
more
improvements?
Yeah.
C
I
know
we're
going
to
make
some
improvements
here
in
the
council
chambers
that
will
help
our
citizens
to
be
able
to
hear
and
see
our
meetings.
Then
we
put
some
money
in
the
budget
because
we
want
to
kind
of
spruce
up
some
of
the
buildings
we
just
recently
are
working
on
irrigation
for
city
hall,
because
the
irrigation
system
had
to
be
fixed
before
we
could
do
planting
so
we're
they're,
getting
ready
to
put
the
irrigation
system
in
we
fix.
C
We've
got
the
ada
compliance
issue
that
we've
had
at
the
front
of
city
hall
that
we're
working
on
trying
to
wrap
that
up.
I
think
we're
waiting
on
some
signs
and
then
we
can
do
some
markings
and
then
we
want
to
you
know,
redo
the
parking
lot
we
got.
The
parking
lot
in
the
back
here
is
really
really
bad
at
the
back
of
the
the
building.
Here,
the
front
needs
to
be
resealed
and
coated
or
whatever
and
and
and
that
nature.
C
So
I
think
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
and
I
am
so
proud
of
the
staff.
I
you
know,
we've
come
a
long
way
during
these
tough
times,
and
so
I
think
this
is
a
very
reasonable
budget.
I
think
it's
very
responsible.
I
think
it
gives
our
citizens
some
of
the
things
that
they
need,
some
of
the
things
that
they've
been
asking
for,
whether
it
be
streets,
sidewalks,
traffic
lights,
and
so
I
think
we
just
hopefully
this
will
be
covid
will
move
on
and
we
will
be
able
to
move
forward.
C
H
I
just
think,
looking
over
these
last
few
years,
interesting
the
the
last
pandemic
the
year
my
grandmother
was
born,
was
it
lasted
three-year
process
of
getting
through
and
riding
the
ship,
and
here
we
are
in
the
midst
of
this
one
and
we're
seeing
that
a
little
bit.
You
know
history
repeated
there
as
she's
outliving.
This.
H
So
I
really
do
convince
the
staff
I
feel
like
we've
made.
Some
significant
gains
in
infrastructure
needs
in
the
middle
of
this,
which
is
amazing
and
again
for
me.
I
love
all
of
our.
You
know
all
of
our
public
services,
all
of
our
staff,
but
obviously
the
glaring
need
has
been
for
police
department
getting
more
that
we're
not
getting
so
far
behind
that
it
really
is
going
to
hurt
us
in
the
long
run.
So
I'm
pleased
that
we're
doing
that
again,
as
you
stated.
H
As
you
stated,
you
know
we
need
to
make
sure
to
save
in
reserve
to
cover
that
just
in
case
the
grants
don't
come
through,
but-
and
I
just
kind
of
want
to
touch
again
on.
Of
course,
everybody
knows
that
I've
kind
of
championed
having
reserves,
and
just
going
back
to
that,
you
know
I
brought
brought
a
a
proposal
several
years
ago
about
six
years
ago
now
about
aiming
at
that
25
mark
and
again
comparing
to
other
cities
such
as
claremont
winter
park.
H
I
believe
at
the
time
they
were
at
30
percent,
so
I
thought
that
was
conservative,
but
the
reason
for
that
number
and
a
flexibility
in
that
number-
and
I
just
want
to
kind
of
remind
everybody
of
that.
The
reason
was
that
obviously
the
16
number
is
that
baseline
for
everyone
and
the
gfoa
says
now
build
upon
that,
based
upon
what
you
face,
and
so
looking
at
that
that
we
do
stand
risk
of
storms
not
as
much
on
the
coast.
H
So
you
know,
maybe
it
doesn't
have
to
be
as
high,
but
we
stand
risk
of
storms
such
as
in
2003.
You
know
we
were
the
crosshairs
of
like
three
or
four
in
a
row.
We
had
a
couple
of
them
what
two
years
ago,
so
a
portion
of
that
was
was
to
be
set
aside
for
storm,
but
there's
three
main
reasons
I
brought
this
up
back
then
one
is
dealing
with
storms,
which
is
an
issue
that
florida
has
number
two
deals
with
state-level
governmental
decisions
that
can
affect
us.
H
You
know
which
I
remember
a
few
years
ago.
They
were
talking
about
doubling
the
exemption
and
we
saw
what
that
could
do
and
take
a
big
hit,
and
so
just
knowing
and
being
prepared
for
that.
The
third
is
being
in
the
position
to
make
decisions
that
to
to
acquire
things
to
you
know
to
be
able
to
move
on
such
as
a
camp
wewa,
which
you
know
I
stay
to
where
I
stood
on
that,
but
not
because
it's
not
a
tremendous
opportunity,
and
so
that's
the
reason
for
that.
H
But
again,
along
with
that,
was
the
opportunity
it's
not
like.
We
can
never
touch
that.
It
was
simply
if
we
need
to
four
four
percent
of
that
set
aside
for
storms
and
those
related
issues.
The
other
five
percent
for
those
other
two
issues
that
we
may
contend
with
so
as
in
this
year,
we're
needing
to
to
dip
into
that
a
little
bit.
The
whole
proposal
was
let
that
be
what
we
aim
for.
If
we
need
to
dip
in
there
was
a
five-year
plan
to
get
us
back
to
that
place,
so
it
wasn't
inflexible.
H
It
was
just
a
good,
I
think,
responsible
number
to
aim
for
so
because
of
that,
and
thank
you
for
you
and
the
staff
putting
us
in
that
position.
So
we
could
say
you
know
what
we
need
to
do
it
this
year
and
again
for
our
police
and
things
where
we
want
to
go
in
our
in
our
fire
department,
but
we
have
to
take
baby
steps
in
some
of
those
areas.
H
As
you
said,
I
wish
we
could
get
everybody
everything
they
want
right
now,
but
the
bottom
line
is
it's
the
taxpayers
that
are
paying
for
that,
and
so,
I
think,
being
responsible
there.
They
have
suffered,
they
have
faced
challenges,
and
so
I
I
think
we're
at
a
good
number,
even
though
technically
it
is
an
increase,
we're
decreasing
in
our
millage
rate.
It's
an
increase
from
rollback
rates,
so
I
I
just
think
it's
a
responsible
move
right
now.
H
H
A
Right,
you
know
unforeseen
yeah,
because
you
know
that
was
you
know
three
million
dollar
hit.
We
went
into
you
know,
as
we
said
march
from
you
know,
had
it
started
earlier
in
the
fiscal
year
it
could
have
really.
It
could
have
been
five
six
million,
but
because
it
was
halfway
through
the
our
you
know
our
fiscal
year.
H
And
I'm
pleased
that
we
were
able
to
bring
our
merit
pay
back
up.
We
did
take
a
year
where
we
tightened
our
belt.
In
that
sense,
but
a
lot
of
our
citizens.
They
lost
their
incomes
completely.
So
we
still
even
through
that,
tried
to
stay
on
that
level.
Again:
positioning
ourself
to
be
competitive
in
the
market,
because
there's
all
kinds
of
people
that
want
our
people
because
they're
the
best-
and
so
we
want
to
constantly
remember
that
that's
our
most
important
and
most
valuable
asset
is.
B
So
we
thank
them
for
their
cooperation
in
doing
that
and
you've
done
a
good
job
with
the
budget,
and
we
appreciate
what
you've
done
and-
and
I
have
a
a
few
questions
and-
and
I
guess
it
wouldn't
be
right.
If
I
didn't
the
first
one
is
in
reference
to
the
speed
hump
program.
Did
we
use
that
last
year?
Did
anyone
use
the
speed
hunt
program
last
year.
C
C
But
we're
going
to
re-budget
that
money,
rather
than
just
keep
carrying
that
number
forward,
we've
budgeted
again
50
000
and
if
that
program
does
well,
then
we
can,
you
know,
go
to
reserves
if
we
need
to
to
bring
more
for
that
program,
but
at
night
you
know
what
what
we
can
do
is
we
can
get
pam
oversees
that
program,
so
I
can
get
her
to
also
put
together.
You
know
which
areas
did
request
it.
So
at
least
you
can
see
which
areas
were
asking
for
it
all
right.
B
The
other
thing
I'd
like
for
us
to
to
take
a
look
at
is
our
impact
fees.
As
you
know,
orange
county
increased
their
impact
fees,
and
so,
since
we're
the
cheapest
city
around
developers
are
gonna
start
coming
here.
So
we
don't
come
because
we're
the
cheapest-
and
I
know
the
the
state
put
a
limit
on
what
we
can
do,
what
percentage
we
can
increase
our
impact
fees,
but
I'd
like
us
to
take
a
look
at
that,
so
that
we
can.
C
B
They
are
in
bad
shape,
especially
on
the
south
side
of
441,
where
all
the
businesses
are
with
the
awnings
overhanging,
because
it
it's
in
a
lot
of
shade
and
I
thought
at
one
time
we
said
we
was
going
to
ask
the
businesses
to
take
care
of
that,
but
obviously
it
hasn't
been
done,
they're
still,
filthy,
and
so,
if,
if
they're
not
going
to
do
it,
it's
it's
our
city
and
the
sidewalks
need
to
look
nice.
Oh.
I
F
I
B
F
F
C
C
F
C
F
C
No
well
today,
as
you
sit
right
now,
yes,
because
we've
had
to
use
some
of
the
some
of
that
reserve
to
pay
for
camp.
We
well
when
we
closed,
but
if
you
recall
we're,
we
had
like
five
funding
sources.
One
was
we
had
the
1.1
for
duke
energy,
which
that
money
is
in
our
fund,
so
we
would
be
able
to
use
that
we,
your
budget,
the
adjustment
that
or
the
amendment
that
you
did
this
afternoon
at
1
30,
a
million
of
the
impact
fee,
went
there.
So
there's
two
million.
C
We
have
a
million
in
a
grant,
we're
waiting
to
hear
it
sounds
positive,
got
our
fingers
crossed.
Let's
hope
that
we're
gonna
get
that
million
and
then
the
the
sandpiper
property
we
haven't
closed
on
yet,
but
we
have
an
agreement
on
that.
That's
1.3
the
airport.
We
have
four,
so
very
small
amount
of
the
reserves,
if
any
that
we
would
have
to
use
hopefully,
but
currently,
as
you
said,
we've
had
to
use
some
of
that
advance
it
to
close.
If
nothing
changes.
C
F
F
For
the
city
of
apopka,
why
is
it
such
a
large
hit,
though,
because
when
I'm
thinking
we've
got
the
cares,
act
funding
that's
going
to
help
pay
for
some
of
this,
we've
got
the
2.9
million
duke
funds,
I'm
not
sure
how
much
of
that
10
million
dollars
basically
has
been
paid
in
this
fiscal
year.
But
if,
if
not,
if
the
majority
of
it's
going
to
be
paid
in
this
upcoming
fiscal
year,
why
are
we
taking
such
a
hit
in
our
general
fund
reserve.
C
F
C
So
we
received
half
of
the
7
million
3.5
and
we've
used
a
million,
so
we
still
have
two
and
a
half
million
that
is
sitting
from
those
reserve
dollars
that
have
certain
restrictions
on
them,
which
we
want
to
we're
going
to
do
we're
going
to
bring
that
back
and
present
that,
so
you
can
see
here's
the
2.5-
this
is
what
it
can
be
spent
on.
It
has
very.
Very
the
restrictions
are
really
really
I
mean
it's
broadband
water
sewer.
It's
you
know
it
can't.
C
So
you
do
have
two
and
a
half
million
there
that
has
restrictions
on
it,
that
we
will
bring
back
to
be
able
to
figure
out
how
we
want
to
spend
those
dollars
for
those
restrictions
and
then
you're
talking
about
the
reserves
that
we've
used
for
the
duke
energy
money.
That
is
completely
earmarked.
We've
earmarked
almost
all
of
those
dollars,
except
for
the
1.1,
but
we're
again
it's
if
we
use
it
for
camp
wewa,
then
it
pretty
much
will
be.
You
know
we
will
have
allocated
those
dollars
that
two
points.
A
C
A
A
F
My
microphone
turned
off
so
in
terms
of
the
millage
decrease.
I
know
that
when
we
were
setting
the
trim
notice,
it
seemed
like
the
council
up
here
was
very
comfortable
on
staying
at
the
4.28
percent
or
4.28
mills,
and
then
you
know,
staff
recommendation
reverted
back
to
the
4.18
and
we
use
words
like
needed.
People
we've
been
stretched.
You
know
things
are
always
going
up
in
terms
of
the
general
fund
expenditures.
There's
things
that
we
need
to
have
contingency
for
beyond,
just
what's
in
our
reserve
fund
balance.
F
F
We've
got
I
I
I
respect
the
fact
that
you
know
in
order
to
apply
for
the
grants
or
to
try
and
win
those
grants.
We
can't
have
those
positions
budgeted,
but
we
can
have
funds
secured
to
fund
those
positions
should
they
not
be
covered
by
those
grant
funds.
So
I'm
wondering
why
we're
we're
trying
to
do
this
to
ourselves
again,
where
we
keep
on
saying
that
we
don't
have
money.
F
C
I
think
I
think,
commissioner,
when,
if
you
go
back
to
when
we
were
increasing
the
public
service
tax
or
the
utility
service
tax,
we
made
it
clear
that
that
was
going
to
be
a
hit
to
some
of
our
customers,
and
so
we
talked
about
at
that
time.
You
know,
we
know
this
is
going
to
be
a
hit
for
some
of
them,
and
so
we
had
mentioned
that
if
we
can
at
budget
time
the
number
that
we
can
control
to
help
offset
or
provide
some
assistance
with
that
who's
weak
and
that
index
the
staff.
C
I
think
the
staff,
because
we,
if
you
remember
at
those
meetings
we
talked
about
that
you
know
well,
because
there
were
some
concerns
about.
Oh
my
gosh,
well,
someone's
paying
10
and
the
cap
comes
off
they're,
going
to
pay.
You
know
200
more
a
month
or
whatever,
and
and
we've
had
several
phone
calls
where
people
have
called
us
that
are
having
to
have
bigger
bills
and
going
to
have
bigger
bills,
and
so
at
that
time
what
we
told
them
was.
We
would
look
at
that.
So
I
will
look
to
see
you
know.
C
Ultimately,
it's
a
city
council's
decision,
but
we
would
look
at
that
to
see
if
there
was
a
chance
that
we
could
provide
a
little
relief
somewhere
else
since
we're
taking
a
since
they're
getting
a
bigger
hit
from
their
electric
and
water.
So
and
then
the
other
thing
I
want
to
say
too
is
keep
in
mind
when
we
did
that
it
hit
july
1..
So
you
got
three
months
worth
of
additional
revenue.
F
F
So
I
can't
justify
just
because
the
public
services
tax
went
up
and
it
really
didn't
go
up
it.
Just
the
cap
was
removed
and
again
it
doesn't
affect
anybody.
Well,
it
doesn't
affect
people
that
pay
200
or
less,
and
yet
we
still
talk
about
how
we
don't
have
money
to
to
do
critical
needs
we're
stretching
dollars
we're
rubbing,
nickels
together.
You
know:
why
are
we?
F
C
Well,
I
think,
commissioner,
let
me
go
back
because
I
wanna
on
when
you
talk
about
public
service
tech,
you
talked
about
property
tax
and
then
enterprise
funds,
those
those
two,
the
utility
tax
and
prototypes-
are
on
the
same
fund
so
that
that
revenue
is
all
in
one
fund,
whereas
the
enterprise
fund
is
a
separate
fund,
a
separate
charge
for
to
run
the
business.
So
you.
F
C
And
that
that
is,
you
can
look,
you
can
look
at
it.
That
way,
I
agree,
but
but
what
I
will
tell
you
is
when
we
built
this
budget.
We
looked
at
the
critical
needs.
We
looked
at
our
police,
it
was
a
it
was.
We
looked
at
all
the
critical
needs
and,
and
we
looked
at
fire,
you
know
we
looked
at
fire.
We
looked
at
police,
we
looked
at
public
works,
we
looked
at
recreation,
we
looked
through
all
of
our
fun.
F
And
again
that
that's
a
general
fund
funded
expenditure,
and
yet
we've
got
10
officers
that
we're
hoping
we
get
the
grant
for.
If
we
don't
get
that,
I'm
sure
chief
mckinley
still
wants
officers
to
be
able
to
satisfy
the
growth
in
our
city,
and
I
firmly
agree
with
you,
but
it's
not
just
that.
I
mean
commissioner,
banks
has
said
it
appropriately.
Taxpayers
will
pay
for
it
on
the
fire
side,
they'll
pay
for
it,
potentially
with
their
lives.
We
have
a
fire
department
that
can
only
respond
to
one
structural
fire
properly.
D
C
C
From
it
from
a
standpoint
as
a
city
administrator,
you
asked
me
to
look
at
critical
needs.
You
asked
me
to
look
at
all
across
all
the
organization,
because
the
general
fund
funds
all
of
the
those
functions,
and
so
when
we
looked
at
that
and
we
met
with
staff
and
and
their
concerns
and
everything-
that's
that's
what
we
did.
We
looked
at
the
critical
needs
and
the
police
department's
response
times
were
doing
this.
The
fire
department's
response
times
were
still
good
and.
F
Yeah
is
not
about
response
times
it's
about
having
the
right
amount
of
personnel
to
meet
the
standards
for
responding
to
those
calls,
not
necessarily
iso
related,
so
that
we're
co-mingling
points
of
view
here.
I
would
certainly
love
to
hear
from
chief
weiland
another
point
being,
and
I
asked
the
question
during
the
budget
workshops
was
around
the
recreation
expense.
F
You
know
we
did
this
survey,
so
residents
I
would
have,
I
would
think,
would
have
an
expectation
that,
as
a
result
of
those
surveys
for
new
facilities
that
there
would
be
budget
for
that
currently,
there's
not.
I
think
mr
foreman
said
that
maybe
back
or
in
october
or
november,
that
might
come
back
before
council,
but
we
don't
have
any
expenditure
for
that
currently
budgeted.
So
again
I
go
back
to.
C
Well,
and
to
those
points
on
the
the
recreation
improvements,
those
are
gonna,
be
million
dollar
improvements,
and
so
that
you
can't
that
there's
no
there's
not
enough
funding
in
this
budget
to
budget
those
improvements.
When
that
comes
back
to
you,
the
city
council
can
look
at
that
and
decide
hey.
I
want
to
invest
10
million
dollars
in
these
improvements
and
we
would
have
to
I.
F
C
I
mean
some
of
the
items
that
were
on
that
list
where
we
talked
about
moving
fields
and
making
new
new
fields,
new
ball
fields
or
whatever
they
were
pretty
costly.
So
they
were.
There
were
some
high
numbers
in
there,
but
again
I
mean
when
that
comes
back
it'll,
be
you
know,
the
city
council
can
look
at
that
from
the
consultant
and
determine
you
know
how
many
fields
they
want
if
they
want
to
add
fields.
Do
you
want
to
add
you
know
baseball
fields,
softball
fields.
Are
we
going
to
add?
You
know
an
ada
playground?
C
Are
we
you
know
those
are
the
things
that
are
going
to
be
in
that
that
list.
One
of
the
things
that
we,
the
major
concerns
we
saw
was
the
street.
The
lighting
was
very
big.
A
lot
of
people
were
wanting
extra
lighting,
so
we
tried
to
work
that
in
so
that
was
the
amount
that
we
got
in
here.
The
bathrooms
bathrooms
was
on
the
top
of
the
list
wanting
more
bathrooms,
and
so
you
know,
we've
we've
put
we've
been
able
to
manage
to
get
those
in
as
well.
C
So
I
think
some
of
the
ones
that
you're
going
to
see
come
back
to
you
are
going
to
be
significant
when
it
talks
about
you
know.
If
there
were
tennis
courts
or
whatever
those
kinds
of
those
kinds
of
things
are,
are
going
to
be
rather
costly,
and
I
don't
think
you
can
fund
those
you.
I
don't
see
how
you
would
fund
those
through
your
normal
budget
without
some
kind
of
an
additional
funding.
F
System
yeah,
I
mean
absent
any
kind
of
cost
breakdown
of
anything
that's
being
contemplated
on
the
rec
side.
It
would
be
irresponsible
to
say
what
those
costs
are.
I'm
just
saying
that
giving
away
a
400,
000
contingency
in
terms
of
a
10th
of
a
military
reduction-
I
I
just
think
is-
is
not
appropriate,
there's
so
much
that
needs
to
be
done
in
this
city
to
just
arbitrarily
reduce
or
reduce
our
millage
by
10th
of
a
mill.
F
C
Well
and
again
I
I
the
the
budget
you
have
before
you
is
presented
based
on
the
critical
needs
and
meeting
with
all
the
departments
and
then
going
through
their
to
the
workshops
and
everything
again,
it's
the
wishes
of
the
council.
If
they
want,
you
know
if
they
want
that
the
millage
rate
additional
400
thousand
dollars.
You
know
you
you,
we
can.
You
know
earmark
that
where
you
want
to
earmark,
I
mean
I'll.
F
C
B
C
E
You
know
with
me
why
I
didn't
want
to
go.
First
is
because
obviously
I'm
working
the
real,
tell
tale
end
of
the
last
budget
because
I
came,
I
got
elected
in
december
and
you
know
I
looked
at
your
the
budget
year
from
from
20
21
and
then
and
what
I
was
realizing
is.
Did
we
reach
our
goals
with
the
last
budget?
I
mean,
I
don't
know
what
was
budgeted
and
what
we
achieved
from
it,
and
then
we
have
this
year's
budget
and
it
would.
E
D
C
Well,
I
think
if
you
look
back
in
the
last
picture,
the
budget,
the
current
budget
that
we're
in
we
have
met
a
lot
of
the
things
that
are
in
the
budget,
because
we
had
to
do
a
lot
of
infrastructure
improvements
with
roofs,
repair
and
maintenance.
We've
done
sidewalk
repair,
we've
done,
we've
done
a
lot.
We've
had
a
street
sweeping
program.
We
didn't
have
a
street
sweeping
program
two
and
a
half
years
ago,
so
we
have
a
street
sweeping
program.
C
We've
added
we've
done
more
in
stormwater,
we've
cleaned
lots
of
storm
water
drains
in
places
that
we
hadn't
before,
and
so
we've
met
a
lot
of
those
things,
even
during
the
covid
with
some
of
the
projects.
So
I
don't.
We
haven't
left
many
of
those
projects
out
there
I
mean
one
of
the
projects
that
we
talked
about.
C
Was
the
council
chambers,
the
audio
portion
of
the
council
chambers
or
whatever
granted
we,
we
did
receive
the
two
and
a
half
2.9
million
dollars
from
duke,
so
it
allowed
us
to
advance
some
of
those
projects
that
we
had,
but
we've
a
lot
of
those
projects
have
been
done.
A
lot
of
all
the
roofs
have
been
done
now,
so
I
mean
we've.
You
know,
we've
done
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
said
we
would
do
in
those
budgets,
but
so.
C
Well,
like
I
said
earlier,
if
you
don't
get
those
grants
for
those
portions,
you've
got
money
in
your
reserves.
So
that's
why
you
have
money
in
the
reserve,
so
you
can
use
that
money
in
the
reserves
to
help
you
with
those
grant
opportunities.
Should
you
get?
Should
you
not
get
them
or
you
have
to
have
a
match?
Maybe
you
have
to
have
it?
Maybe
we
they
tell
us
you're
going
to
get
eight,
but
we
want
10,
so
we'll
only
have
to
fund
two,
so
you've
got
the
reserves
to
do
that.
C
Does
the
400
000
give
you
more
reserve
yeah?
I
guess
it
could
keep
in
mind.
You've
got
300
additional
thousand
in
this
year
that
you're
making
up
from
utility
service
tax
increase
that
you're
getting
from
from
the
from
the
citizens
that
you've
already
that
you've
already
hit
with
so
I
mean
you
know,
it
adds
400
000
to
the
reserves
that
you
could
use
for
those
that
opportunity
again
it's
if
the
timing
is
kind
of
bad,
because
if
you
know
if
we
just
knew
what
the
grants
were
going
to
be,
it
would
be.
C
E
C
Duke
energy
money
is
pretty
much
earmarked.
It's
pretty
much
done.
You
have
about
1.1
left
that
we
that
we
didn't
spend,
because
we
were
talking
about
paying
off
some
debt
service,
but
we
were
going
to
use
that
for
camp
wewa.
So
if
we
don't
use
that
for
camp
well,
then
you're
going
to
have
to
use
the
reserves
to
pay
for
the
camp
we
will
and
and
and
and
you'd
have
that,
but
but
most
of
those
dollars
have
been
earmarked
several
of
them
you've
already
done
budget
amendments
for
the
restrooms,
the
storage
facility.
C
C
They
had
they've
sent
guidelines
for
us
to
look
at
the
guidelines
that
they've
sent
to
us
are
water,
sewer
and
broadband
projects.
That's
where
a
lot
of
it
is
or
to
work
with
coved
items.
Well,
we've
done
a
really
good
job.
We've
got
we've
received
grants
and
done
a
really
good
job
with
our
covet
items
you
know,
so
you
can
use
it
on
covet
items.
You
know,
equipment.
C
Could
use
an
equipment,
different
types
of
equipment
that
are
covered
related
and
then
there's
like
I
said,
there's
very
it
didn't
give
you
a
it.
Wasn't
broad,
it
didn't
tell
you
you
could
just
you
know,
use
it
forever.
You
wanted
to
have
those
restrictions
on
it,
and
so
we
know
we
feel
we're
comfortable
with
that.
The
million
that
we're
using
for
the
resurfacing,
because
we
had
lost
revenue,
we're
still
trying
to
figure
out
working
with
the
treasury.
What
is
that
lost
revenue
number?
Because
it
is
the
most
confusing
for
me?
C
They
don't
even
know,
there's
we're
still
struggling
with
that
and
I'm
working
with
other
jurisdictions.
What
do
you
do?
Everybody's
doing
something
different,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
we
follow
those
guidelines
because
there
are
quarterly
reporting.
I
just
filed
one
this
week
there
are
quarterly
reports
that
you
have
to
do
and
I
want
to
make
sure
we
follow
those
guidelines
and
those
funds
go
exactly
where
they're
supposed
to
based
on
those
on
that
formula,
and
so
that's
why
we're
going
to
bring
I'm
going
to
bring
that
back
to
the
city
council.
C
So
they
can
see
here
the
restrictions.
Here's
what
you
got
left,
where
do
you
want
to
fund
it,
but
a
lot
of
those
projects
are
our
enterprise
projects.
A
lot
of
the
places
where
they
directed
those
dollars
were
some
of
our
inter
most
of
our
enterprise
projects,
but
but
but
we'll
bring
that
I
mean,
like
I
said,
we're
getting
all
that
information
together
so
that
we
can
bring
it
to
you.
So
you
can
see
you
know.
Do
you
want
to
do
one
project
with
it?
C
You
know
like
mayor,
was
saying
we
only
got
seven
million.
I
feel
like
we
were
shortchanged.
It's
just
it.
Just
doesn't
really
make
any
sense
that
you
know
our
neighbor.
Okay
got
24
million
dollars
and
they're
just
you
know
we're
just
we're
not
that
much
more
population
than
they
are
and
because
it
threw
us
over
into
that
other
basket.
We
only
got
seven.
So
I
you
know
it's
it's
unfortunate.
I
know
we're
working
trying
to
trying
to
see
if
we
can.
You
know
get
some
more
so,
but
I.
E
May
be
happy
that
we're
picking
up
10
police
officers-
because
I
mean
from
as
far
back
as
I
can
remember-
mckinley-
has
been
asking
for
the
personnel
and
you've
had
attrition
you've
had
people
you've
had
police
officers
leave.
So
it's
it's
the
numbers.
Always
he
gets
two
steps
ahead,
three
steps
ahead
and
then
he
goes
back
four
and
we
never
seem
to
kind
of
increase
the
personnel
for
police
well,.
C
And
I
think
commissioner
velasquez,
let
me
say
this,
and
and
for
the
commissioners
as
a
whole,
we're
growing
and
you're
right
and
and
and
we
need
to
remember
that
as
we
grow
and
we
need
to,
we
need
to
remember
in
our
future
budgets
as
future
budgets
come.
This
is
10
police
officers
for
this
year,
but
that
number
is
going
to
change
and
you're.
You
know
that
you're
going
to
the
future
with
the
growth
and
everything
that
that
you
don't
just
add,
10
that's
coming
and
then
that's
it.
C
E
C
E
A
A
I
I
Yeah,
so
back
in
2002,
sorry,
correct
myself
is
when
we
first
implemented
a
the
squad
vehicle,
it's
actually
blooming
around.
Well,
I
was
hired.
I
was
hired
one
of
the
12
for
the
the
squad
vehicle
at
that
time.
It's
a
a
program
that
was
actually
adapted
from
houston
fire
department.
It
was
one
of
the
big
departments
who
actually
used
this
type
and
they
still
use
it.
To
this
day,
you
can
look
on
their
website
their
squads
for
that
and,
basically
that
that
piece
of
equipment
for
us
is
to
augment
manpower.
I
We
can
use
it
for
fire
calls.
We
can
use
it
for
ems
calls.
We
can
use
it
for
all
sorts
of
things,
but
we
currently
have
four
people
on
that
little
squad
units.
We
have
two
at
station
one
and
two
at
station
five.
So
we
have
four
people
that
we
can
move
very
quickly
throughout
the
city
and
get
them
on
scenes
to
a
fire
scene,
an
extrication
scene,
a
person
in
cardiac
arrest,
certain
things
like
that,
so
it
helps
us
move
those
people
in
a
fluid
manner.
If
that
makes
sense
in
in
multiple
capacities.
I
That,
for
us,
is
why
we
have
our
iso.
You
know
for
iso
one
it
gets
kind
of
confusing.
They
require
a
certain
number
of
people
on
scene
for
a
structure
fire,
because
we
have
those
four
people.
We
can
count
those
towards
engine.
One
staffing:
we
can
count
the
ambulance
from
amlast
one
on
engine,
one
staffing
because
all
iso
looks
at
is
the
fire
truck
and
how
many
people
are
on
scene.
I
I
I
So
what
we,
our
current
deployment
model
again
using
those
squads,
we're
able
to
put
those
people
where
we
need
to
in
a
quick
manner
as
well.
You
know
getting
a
tower
truck,
getting
a
fire
truck,
responding
down
the
road
from
here.
Going
all
all
the
way
to
station
two,
sometimes
station
five
would
take
a
while.
Well
now
we
have
a
squad
vehicle,
so
we
can
get
there
pretty
quick,
so
again,
kind
of
a
win-win
for
us.
I
Our
current
deployment
model
we're
able
to
meet
those
standards
and
again
iso
0.8
percent
of
the
country.
You
know-
and
it's
something
I
think-
that's
you
know
so
I
mentioned
earlier-
it's
not
just
about
iso.
I
get
we
get
that
you
know
it's
it's,
but
that's
the
model.
It's
it's
the
standard
of
care.
They
use
it's
a
third-party
group
that
looks
at
us.
It's
not
us
rating
ourselves.
This
is
an
outside
entity.
E
E
Do
you
have
enough
personnel
to
go
out
to
all
of
these
jobs?
And
my
concern
has
been
we're
building
all
these
warehouses.
Eventually,
we
already
have
amazon.
Gorga
I
mean.
Can
our
fire
department
respond
safely?
I
mean
I.
The
last
thing
I
want
is
a
fire
truck
to
go
with
two
people
and
they're
they're
dealing
with
something
that
they
need
six
people.
E
At
the
same
time,
we
were
much
smaller,
we
didn't
have
as
many
as
much
growth
back
then,
but
I'm
seeing
a
lot
of
growth
and
I
have
expressed
that
to
ed.
I
said
we
have,
and
I
think
I
expressed
it
even
during
the
the
the
budget
meetings,
we
have
warehouses,
we
have
taller
buildings
and
we
have
now
new
communities
being
spread
out.
My
concern
is:
can
our
fire
department
meet
those
needs.
I
So
to
again
you're
absolutely
correct,
you
know
we're
going
for,
and
I
think
we
talked
about
foliage
capital
of
the
world
to
a
more
industrial.
You
know
commercial
type
structures.
Proactive
approach
for
me
is
what
I've
asked
for
the
six
personnel
this
year
as
we
as
we
look
to
the
future.
I
want
to
grow
us,
but
in
that
structured
manner
I
want
the
first
talk.
Let's
talk
about
safety,
we
need
district
chiefs
and
that's
that's
a
critical
part
that
adds
a
safety
officer
that
we
need
now.
You
know
responding
with
one
district
chief
right
now.
I
If
there
is
one
major
scene
going
on
we're,
relying
on
our
command
support
off
duty
personnel,
or
sometimes
us
chief
officers
they're
on
staff,
that's
why
I've
asked
for
it
the
last
two
years
that
we
need
in
place
because
of
our
span
of
control.
You
know
right
now
we
have
in
one
thing
you
know.
The
first
thing
I
did
was
rearrange
some
of
our
personnel
to
put
people
in
the
higher
density
areas
that
our
risks
are
at.
That's
why
I
moved
people
from
station
five.
It
was
unpopular.
I
get
that,
but
the
need
was
here.
I
I
I
We
need
district
chiefs.
Yes,
I
want
to
start
adding
personnel
so
that
we
can
meet
that
demand
for
the
future
to
at
furthest
growth.
For
we
know
we
all
know
it's
coming
so
these
six
people
this
year
that
we're
asking
for.
That's
that's
what
I
want
we're
going
to
move
forward
to
the
next
few
years.
Absolutely
we're
going
to
look
at
our
growth.
We
know
it's
coming.
I
We're
we're
me
we're
we're
marching
along,
but
I
think
we're
doing
it
in
a
responsible
manner.
You
know
it's
something
that
again
I
want.
My
goal
is
to
get
everyone
home
safe
period
and
this
year
this
couple
years
has
been.
It's
been
tough,
you
know
with
code
thing
and
trying
to
balance
everything,
but
everything
that
we've
tried
to
do,
and
it's
not
just
it's
not
just
response
models.
Now
things
like
that,
it's
where,
where
are
we
at
where
we
were
before,
then
the
guys
can
attest
we
wanted
to.
I
I
I
I
Yeah,
so
our
current
rating,
our
current
score
right
now,
is
100.4
out
of
100..
We
actually
get
5.5
extra
points
thanks
to
jerry
maynard
because
of
the
you
know,
the
public
outreach
and
things
like
that
things.
You
heard
today
with
the
with
the
camps
and
stuff
things
are
involved
with
it:
water
supply,
obviously,
our
training,
certain
number
of
hours
of
training
we
have
to
do
each
year,
our
response
times
again,
something
else
you
know
we
mentioned.
I
What's
what's
real
fire
exponentially
grows
every
minute
and
that's
one
thing
we're
looking
at
when
we,
when
we
talk
about
response
times
for
fires,
putting
wet
stuff
on
the
red
stuff
as
quick
as
possible,
is
what
we
need
to
do
and
when
we
look
at
that
in
our
deployment
models,
and
things
like
that,
I
know
I
apologize
about
the
confusing
maps
last
time.
That's
what
I
was
trying
to
show
you
is.
We
can
we're
reaching
those
goals.
We're
putting
you
know
things
on
scene.
I
Are
we
gonna
grow?
Do
we
need
to
grow
along
with
that?
Absolutely
100?
You
will
never
hear
me
ever
not
say
that
so
40
again
water
supply.
Typically,
you
know
different
percentages
for
the
type
of
equipment
we
carry.
You
know,
what's
on
each
apparatus
and
again,
each
of
those
point
systems
kind
of
once.
You
establish
the
number
of
people
we
have
again.
Those
squads
help
augment
that
power.
That
ex
so
now
that
we
have
credit
for
that
truck
every
time.
It
rolls
on
a
fire.
I
We
get
certain
points
and
everybody,
and
it
sounds
funny,
loses
points.
Fdny
is
probably
one
of
the
only
only
only
departments
that
actually
has
six
people
in
the
truck.
I
don't
even
know
if
they
have
them,
but
you
know
so,
there's
always
some
give
and
take
when
you
look
at
a
deployment
model
as
soon
as
a
call
goes
out,
our
deployment
model
changes.
I
You
know
you,
you
ask,
you
know
well
as
soon
as
you
are,
we
gonna
be
able
to
respond
well
as
soon
as
station
three
goes
on
a
call
station
three's
not
covered.
We
respond
from
other
stations
and
things
like
that,
and
even
we
have
agreements
in
place.
That's
why
we
help
orange
county
orange
county
helps
us.
So
you
know
when
times
when,
there's
critical
needs
and
things
like
that.
E
I
And
that's
my
job
too,
you
know,
I
think
that
sometimes
that's
it
seems
like
it's
been
forgotten
lately,
but
I'm
here
for
them.
You
know
and
it's
it
and
it's
something
I
there's
a
goal:
there's
a
there's
the
same
goal:
we
have
it's
just
different
ways
of
getting
there
sometimes
and
you
know,
do
we
want
to
eventually
get
there
absolutely
it's
going
to
take
this
year.
I
My
goal
is
the
district
chief
and
an
extra
person
out
station
one
backwards
person
station
one
when
we
open
station
six,
I'm
asking
for
enough
enough
people
to
again
have
extra
people
to
start
throwing
out
in
other
trucks
we're
gonna
get
there.
I
know
we
are
just
you
know.
Most
important
thing
are
those
guys
and
girls
to
me.
That's
why
I
hope
that
I
emphasize
some
of
my
programs.
I'm
trying
to
implement
is
a
succession
plan.
You
know
the
number
of
people
who
look
at
our
stats.
I
I
I
think
there's
40,
I
think
40
percent
are
five
years
or
less,
but
that's
industry
wide
right
now,
it's
just
a
young.
It's
a
shift,
that's
kind
of
happened
in
the
fire
service.
Those
people
are
critical.
The
people
in
the
middle
that
we're
getting
developed
to
be
our
leaders.
That's
why
I'm
putting
these
programs
in
place?
That's
why
I
want
a
secession
plan.
That's
why
I
want
guys
checked
off
to
if
you're
replacing
a
lieutenant.
I
want
you
to
as
qualified
as
that
person.
I
E
I
E
E
I
Assign
each
shift
now
understand,
we
typically
allow-
and
it's
been
crazy
here-
typically
allow
four
people
off-
maybe
five
without
causing
overtime.
So
I
like
30
is
ideal,
but
29
is
allowed
at
that
point
at
29
we
would
hire
someone
to
fill
that
position
for
overtime,
so
we
have
29
people
on
each
shift
each
day.
I
E
I
A
I
I
I
E
F
F
But
right,
but
we're
unique
too,
because
we
also
have
transport
services,
medical
transports,
where
you
have
apparatus
or
outside
of
our
city
down
for
normal
maintenance,
so
yeah
you
may
be
able
to
hit
response
times,
but
to
action
like
having
29
on
staff.
The
minimum
staffing
for
a
structural
fire
is
15.
F
We
can
only
our
own
department
handle
one
structural
fire
at
a
time
and
we're
a
city.
That's
growing
55,
000
residents,
we've
got
17
000
households
in
this
city.
The
idea
to
commissioner
velasquez's
point
the
idea
that
there's
going
to
be
a
time
when
there's
multiple
structural
incidents
is
there's
a
probably
a
pretty
high
probability
of
that,
and
so
again
I
are
we
trying
to
or
not
trying
to
get
to
the
three
person
engine
and
what
is
the
plan
to
do
that?.
I
E
I
Do
you
mean
the
right
way
if
right
way
to
me
is
currently
again,
we
have
three
different
things
we
look
at.
Are
we
able
to
you
know
outcome?
Based
also,
are
we
able
to
put
those
people
that
were
asking
the
17
people
for
the
structure
fire?
Yes,
looking
at
the
growth
with
some
of
you
know
some
of
those
things
that
change
with
industrial
type
structures
that
we're
looking
forward
to
the
future
as
more
of
those
get
added,
yeah
we're
going
to
have
to
up
our
manpower
at
the
same
time
we're
growing.
You
know.
F
F
A
D
H
You
know
our
our
safety
is,
is
job
one
and
over
those
last
few
years
we
have
put
a
significant
amount
for
fire
at
that
point,
to
beef
up
their
infrastructure
and
different
things
at
the
where
the
police
department
was
suffering.
For
some
of
those
years,
we've
tried
to
move,
but
it
was
well.
We
won't
move
as
much
there
because
we've
got
to
put
more
for
fire
and
we
really
did
a
lot
in
those
last
few
years
and
we
did
increase
the
millage
rate.
H
H
If
not,
then
we're
always
playing
catch
up
and
yay
we've
got
more
because
of
a
grant,
but
then
the
next
year
won't
have
to
pay
for
all
that
plus
ad.
So
for
me
this
year
we
took
it
rather
than
it
being
equal
fire
and
police
gaining
ground,
because
we
really
had
put
a
lot
in
fire
infrastructure
there
and
the
police
had
suffered
for
me,
knowing
where
we're
at
trying
to
find
that
balance
also
for
the
taxpayer
as
well.
I
think
that's
important
I'm
hearing
those
cries
and
hearing
that
the
difference
that
we've
gone
up
yeah.
H
Would
I
love
to
let's
do
it
all
this
year?
Well,
there's
lots
of
areas
we
could
do
that,
but
we
are
making
ground-
and
I
talked
with
you
about
this
as
I've
heard
from
different
ones
there,
and
you
know
we
want
to
have
this-
this
heart
of
compassion
for
them
for
the
taxpayer,
for
how
are
we
going
to
pay
for
this
going
forward?
So
to
me,
what
is
this?
H
What's
the
sustainable
model
and
for
the
new
growth
it's
got
to
be
a
majority
of
that
has
got
to
be
the
impact
that
the
growth
creates
needs
to
pay
for
itself.
When
we
do
that,
then
we're
on
a
sustainable
model
that
we
can
now
keep
taking
bites
until
we
get
where
we
want
to
be,
and
I
think
the
the
three
per
apparatus.
Thank
you
for
correction
is
a
noble
goal.
It's
a
safe
goal,
and-
and
so
I'm
just
trying
to
hear
what
you're
saying
not
just
statistically
but
in
practicality,
are
we
safe?
H
Are
we
providing
service?
That
is
that
again
we
have
an
iso
rating,
but
it
does
that
translate
again
to
the
practical.
You
know
rubber
meets
the
roadside,
so
I
think
finding
that
balance
and
doing
it
in
a
responsible
way
in
a
time
when
we've
had
cobit
on
top
of
this,
not
to
use
that
as
an
excuse,
but
it
is
a
reality
and
I
think
we've
gained
a
lot
of
ground
in
a
lot
of
areas.
H
We've
taken
a
big
step
here
for
our
police
department,
we're
prepared
to
and
again
as
I've
said
if
we
need
to
dip
into
those
reserves.
That's
why
they
are
there,
and
so
we've
got
enough
meat
on
the
bone
that
if
we
had
to
go
there,
we
can
go
there
and
I
will
support
that.
But
again,
then
let's
then
set
our
goal
just
like
we
want
to
increase
in
our
fire
department.
We
also
want
to
get
our
reserves
back
to
that.
H
What's
that
break-even
point
and
there's
disagreement
on
some
of
that
again
I
I've
gone
to
some.
You
know
the
top
teachers
in
the
state
to
ask
them
the
professors
about
that
and
that's
you
know
and
then
balancing
it
with
other
cities.
What
are
their
goals?
We're
us
we're
not
them.
So
again,
that's
an
arbitrary
number.
That's
up
to
this
council
to
make
that
decision.
I
was
pushing
for
a
a
policy-
that's
still
not
there,
but
I
think
the
goal
is
there.
I
think
everyone
sees
the
value
of
those
things.
H
You
know
I
want
to
work
together,
but
the
bottom
line
is:
we've
got
to
do
it
in
a
way.
That's
not
going
to
keep
taking
the
pound
of
flesh
and
for
me
that
4.2,
whatever
that
it
was,
we
had
to
set
it
at
the
higher
amount,
knowing
we
can't
go
higher
than
that,
but
that
didn't
mean
I
wanted
to
stay
there.
You
know
if
we
can
bring
that
back
for
the
sake
of
those
who
are
paying
those
bills.
H
I
do
think
that
this
is
a
decent
measure.
It's
showing
our
taxpayers.
We
are
listening
to
them
as
well,
and
not
just
you
know,
spending
money
recklessly
at
the
same
time,
there
is
need-
and
we
do
need
to
keep
cognizant
of
that,
and
we
do
need
to
keep
taking
bites
at
that,
so
that
you
know
we
are
supporting
our
safety
for
police
and
fire
and
move
forward.
So
this
year
I
felt
like,
as
we
have
in
the
past,
we've
focused
on
fire.
H
D
H
Why
aren't
we
there?
You
talked
about
the
houston
model
and
that
we
have
it's
like
with
the
rover
on
the
baseball
team.
When
I
was
growing
up,
you
know
the
softball
team,
you
had
the
rover
and
that
person
could
fill
in
the
gap,
and
so
is
that
the
best
model
or
is
that
a
temporary
model
we've
got
the,
I
think
the
greatest
and
finest
department
around.
But
that
doesn't
mean
it
can't
be
better,
and
so
you
know
again
I
mean
trying
to
listen
to
the
voices
that
are
there
and
listen
to
the
whole.
I
You
mentioned
a
keyword
there
for
me
too.
I
kind
of
mentioned
it.
A
little
bit
last
time
was
is
infrastructure.
You
know
right
now
our
stations
are
built
to
house
those
four
people
outlying
stations
for
people.
When
we
start
rolling
out
these
goals
this
year,
I
can
safely
add
a
district
chief
to
a
station
in
a
one
backwards,
firefighter
ii
station.
Then
next,
as
we
start
to
see
our
growth
come,
we
need
to
redo
some
of
our
stations.
Our
stations
are
old,
older.
I
You
know,
they're
the
same
thing
with
the
with
the
you
know
just
time,
and
that
goes
on
station
three.
I
I
would
like
to
add
some
infrastructure
there
and
then
add
that
person,
if
that
makes
sense,
or
at
the
same
time,
so
that
it's
a
controlled
type
of
movement
that
gets
us
in
that
positive
direction.
We
all
have
the
same
goal.
I
know
that.
A
F
I
F
Again,
I
go
back
to
someone
can
do
public
records
on
my
email
if
they
need
to,
but
I
don't
know
that
I've
ever
received
an
email
from
a
resident.
That
said,
oh,
my
gosh,
the
millage
is
just
astronomically
too
high.
I
need
relief,
I've
not
received
one,
and
I'm
not
exaggerating
here.
What
I
have
received
is
that
people
want
specific
outcomes
by
living
in
apopka.
They
want
world-class
facilities,
they
want
world-class
public
safety.
F
The
staff
want
the
same
thing.
They
want
a
comfortable
work
environment,
a
safe
work
environment.
People
in
apopka
want
a
beautiful
city
that
they
can
be
proud
of.
They
want
to
be
aesthetically
pleasing.
They
want
recreational
facilities
that
maybe
not
are
not
here.
Yet
they
want.
You
know,
abandoned
properties
like
the
popular
little
league
fields
to
do
something.
You
know,
let's
leverage
that
they
want.
They
want
these
things
and
again
we
keep
on
nickel
and
diming
over
a
tenth
of
a
mill
on
these
millage
rates
is
ridiculous.
I
mean
come
on.
F
I
can
confidently
go
to
a
tax-paying
resident
of
this
city
and
say:
we've
got
the
lowest
tax
rate
in
all
of
the
surrounding
area
and
they're
gonna,
say
big
whoop.
What
can
you
show
for
it,
and
maybe
I'm
being
too
flip
about
this,
but
I
don't
think
that
I
am,
and
so
we
talk
about
ruse
being
replaced,
but
are
we
able
to
fix
the
byproduct
of
those
roots
leaking?
Are
there
mold
in
some
of
our
facilities?
Are
we
attacking
that?
I
see
that
we
have
ac
repair,
but
how
many
does
that
complete?
All
of
them?
F
F
A
G
For
hanging
in
there
with
us
good
evening,
everyone,
my
name,
is
maribel
brinkle
and
I
am
the
vice
president
of
the
museum
on
behalf
of
the
apoca
historical
society.
We
are
here
to
address
the
council
and
to
request
that
the
budget
line
for
the
museum
for
a
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
dollars
be
added
back
into
the
city
proposed
budget.
G
During
that
meeting,
commissioner
becker
stated-
and
I
quote-
I
have
been
asking
year
over
year
for
an
economic
development
position
and
we
refuse
to
fund
it.
He
also
stated
expenditures
like
a
museum
expansion
for
120
000,
which,
ironically
enough
transport
to
that
funding
total
into
parenthesis
for
an
economic
development
position
is
coming
out
of
left
field.
G
Now
I'm
going
to
speak
for
the
society
to
us.
This
moment
reveal
the
greatest
strength
of
museums,
museums,
bring
people
of
different
backgrounds,
experiences
and
beliefs,
together,
museums
as
audience
to
enter
a
common
space
and
explore
a
common
interest,
museums,
create
informal
communities
or
learning
helping
people
recognize
how
much
we
share
despise
our
differences
and
how
much
those
difference
can
help
us
grow.
We
have
long
belief.
The
museum
is
the
glue
that
holds
the
city
together,
mostly
now
that
we
are
living
in
a
divided
moment.
G
G
Our
areas
that
are
underrepresented
are
not
only
in
the
walls
of
the
museum
but
are
also
in
our
community
without
harun
to
this
place,
the
farm
workers
they
contribute
to
this
city,
the
spanish
they
have
contribute
the
african-american,
the
asian
communities,
that's
what
we
need
the
space
and
also
because
we
have
plenty
of
items
in
our
museums
that
are
laying
on
boxes
on
the
floors.
We
can
trip
and
fall
because
there
is
no
room
to
display
what
have
been
left
to
us
to
take
care
of.
D
D
It
shows
that
the
public
viewing
of
the
museum
itself
as
a
direct
correlation
of
searching
something
having
to
do
with
apopka
museum
or
the
museum
of
the
apopkins
sits
just
above
61
000
people
are
looking
or
seeing
the
link
into
our
museum
through
google
and
that's
not
even
including
for
the
other
six
percent.
That
look
are
sixty
percent
of
my
apologies
for
the
correlation
of
museums
near
me,
or
anything
else
searched
on
google
example.
Two,
which
is
the
middle
diagram,
explains
that
roughly
about
300
actions
within
the
quarter.
D
That
we've
had
for
june
and
august
has
a
significant
impact
on
our
museum
through
calls
accessing
the
maps
to
be
able
to
get
to
our
museum,
and
this
can
be
significantly
increased
due
to
the
fact
that
we
do
seem
to
be
coming
out
of
a
covered
pandemic
as
well.
So
I
I
hope
to
see
those
numbers
upped
as
well
and
then,
for
example,
three.
It
shows
the
diagram
of
central
florida
and
showing
the
areas
that
are
targeted
towards
people
wanting
to
come
to
the
museum.
D
G
The
budget
expenditure
was
set
for
the
2020
and
21
fiscal
year
to
be
a
52.4
million
dollars.
I
think
that's
the
general
fund,
I
think
I'd
say
now-
is
56
or
something
beginning
being
incorporated
into
the
2021
fiscal
year.
It
is
only
accounts
for
0.23
of
the
budget
in
order,
in
other
words,
just
a
quarter
of
a
penny.
A
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
has
always
been
a
budget
line
allocation
for
the
museum,
since
our
first
curator
and
former
apocalypse
designated
it
now.
This
is
what
we
have
in
the
museum.
G
This
is
the
mess
we're
having
because
we
have
no
more
room
to
place
anywhere.
The
reason
we
need
expansion,
the
photo
to
the
right
displays
the
storage
problem
at
the
museum,
so
many
other
artifacts
that
has
been
donated
by
the
families
of
the
people
that
started
our
city
and
the
museum
are
not
being
displayed.
We
owe
it
to
them
in
order
to
tell
their
story
now
we
hire
these
architects
firms.
G
They
give
us
this
potential
floor
plan
to
the
back.
The
double
doors
on
the
bottom
of
the
graphic
are
the
front
entrance
to
the
museum.
If
you
go
to
the
back,
we're
planning
to
extend
the
museum
about
15
foot
of
space,
with
double
doors
and
a
big
storage
unit,
of
course,
by
code,
we
had
to
add
an
extra
bathroom
to
the
museum,
we're
going
to
save
a
lot
of
money,
because
we
can
go
right
out
of
the
system
plumbing
the
already
s6.
G
A
G
G
I
also
would
like
to
recognize
the
president
of
the
historical
society
francina
boykin
historian
of
the
year
and
a
few
honorary
members,
like
mrs
bexy
thompson,
she's,
a
board
member
and
a
librarian
to
our
museum
and,
of
course,
through
the
wise
they've,
been
at
the
front
of
this
for
many
many
years,
their
family
are
the
founders
of
what
we're
standing
right.
Now,
the
contributions
are
immense.
G
F
My
my
observation
during
that
exchange
that
you
referenced
was
it
was
called
out
in
the
budget
presentation
as
its
own
kind
of
thing,
and
I
had
you
know
I've
never
seen
a
presentation
like
this
before
and
that's
where
I
was
calling
out.
This
is
interesting:
120,
000
expenditure
for
a
museum
expansion
and
to
me
it
just
felt
like
it
was
the
first
time
that
I
was
seeing
it
and
that's
why
I
made
the
comments.
F
The
way
that
I
did
now
the
exchange
between
mr
bass
and
I
clearly
I
lost
the
economic
development
position
argument,
but
I
I
never
thought
that
it
was
taken
out
because
mr
bass
had
referenced
that.
That
line
item
was
viewable.
I
think
you
said
the
kafir
which
you're
going
to
point
me
in
the
right
direction,
because
I
didn't
see
it
in
there
and
I
don't
see
it
where
it's
a
line
item
for
multiple
budget
years.
So
that's
my
oversight.
G
When
we,
when
somebody
brought
the
article
to
me,
we
as
a
society
felt
that
we
needed
to
explain
the
museum
is
not
a
club.
The
museum
is
actually
handing
hands
married
to
the
city
without
a
museum
and
history
in
the
museum,
we
really
don't
have
a
city,
so
actually
that
budget
is
being
there
that
line
and
that
money
being
allocated.
That's.
F
What
that's
what
someone
needs
to
point
to
me
too,
because
I
haven't
seen
that
especially
not
called
out
the
way
that
it
was
during
the
budget
workshops?
That's
it's
just
a
miscommunication
again,
don't
I
mean
please
don't
let
that
say
that
I
diminished
any
of
the
work
being
done
by
the
historical
society
or
the
importance
of
the
museum.
I
absolutely
do.
F
A
E
C
Yeah,
so
let
me
talk
from
the
city
side.
I
can
talk
on
the
city
side,
so
in
our
cafe,
under
where
you
have
your
fund
balances,
you
have
restricted
balances
which
we
talked
about
earlier.
The
restricted
balance
from
the
some
of
the
monies
that
we
received
in
our
franchise
agreement
from
duke
energy
was
restricted
for
light
purposes
which
we're
using
400
000
of
that
into
this
current
budget
for
lighting
improvements.
This
is
that
same
type
of
of
item.
C
So
in
the
in
the
general
fund
fund
balance
reserves,
there
is
a
restricted,
restricted
dollar
amount
that
is
for
that
was
collected
for
the
purpose
of
helping
the
expansion
of
the
museum
and,
if
I
recall
right,
it
was
used.
If
you
remember
the-
and
it's
so
ironic,
we
talk
about
this
today,
because
we
had
the
proclamation
today
for
the
the
harvey
right
and
the
the
book
there
was
lots
of
so
so
what
happened
was
years
ago
when
we
started
selling
these
books,
the
proceeds,
the
museum
helped
sell
them.
C
So
that
being
said,
there's
about
twenty
one
thousand
dollars
that
sits
in
the
city's
restricted
reserve
line.
That
is
restricted
for
that
purpose,
and
then
I
know
I
don't.
I
can't
speak
for
the
museum
because
I
have
not
seen
their
financials,
but
I
know
the
museum
has
my
understanding.
Is
they
have
a
a
building
fund
that
they've
collected
over
the
years?
I
mean
it
was
going
to
be
kind
of
a
match.
We
would
give
them
our
piece,
they
would
have
their
piece.
A
C
Of
that,
no
no
only
the
21
000
is
restricted
from
from
the
city
side.
There's
funding
on
their
side
and
one
of
the
things
is
when
we
had
the
workshops
we
had
120
in
our
initial
budget
that
was
put
in
for
facilities
for
an
improvement
to
to
the
museum,
but
that
and
the
reason
and
that
dollar
has
since
been
removed
from
the
budget,
not
because
we
don't
think
we
should
help
with
you
know.
Our
21
000
definitely
needs
to
go
to
help
with
the
renovation
or
help
with
the
growth
expansion
of
the
museum.
C
However,
you
know
we
feel
that
that
should
be
done,
but
we
have
we.
We
took
the
that
funding
piece
out
and
we
have
dollars
in
for
the
design
piece,
because
we
wouldn't
we
need
to
have
a
design
to
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
expand
it,
which
way
which
direction
what's
it
going
to
cost,
because
we
don't
even
know
that
we
don't
we're,
not
even
the
120
number.
We
don't
know.
C
F
So
even
that
does
because
it's
similar
to
the
the
the
property
on
dream
lake
that
the
rotaries
want
to
do
right.
We
carved
out
design
dollars
because
obviously
everything's
not
going
to
happen
all
at
once.
But
again
are
we
saying
that
we
do
or
we
don't
have
the
allocations
for
design
for
what
the
historical
societies
wanted
to
do
for
the
museum
we.
C
G
H
Just
a
question
that
I
have
how
many
capital
campaigns
have
you
done?
Have
you
done
fundraiser
things
other
than
like
the
the
trees?
Are
there
things
like
that
that
you
would,
but
you
really
kind
of
need
the
help
to
to
make
that
happen,
the
people
who
have
that
expertise,
I'm
thinking
of
the
trust.
I
know
that
was
one
of
the
initial
purposes
of
that.
Looking
at
what's
the
other
city
they
raised
like
20
million
dollars,
I
think
mount
dora
they've
been
very
successful
and
to
support
things
like
this.
H
I
think
there
may
be
other
things
that
we
can
really
look
at
and
do
to
help
accent
that
out
from
the
city,
because
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
believe
in
the
museum.
It's
I
love.
History,
yes
and
you've
done
a
tremendous
job
with
with
a
limited
facility,
but
I
think
maybe
you
know
I
don't
know-
maybe
sit
down
and
talk
with
the
board
and
talk
about
what
could
we
do
to
bring
someone
who
can
help
run
capital
campaigns?
That's.
G
But
we
have
to
look
into
grants.
The
situation
that
we
have
now
is
that
the
expansion
needed
to
be
done
five
years
ago,
so
we're
now.
We
want
a
reality.
We
want
to
see
something
going,
so
our
dollars
are
going
to
be
expense
on
the
engineer,
plans,
architectural
plans
and
then
present
that
to
the
city
for
the
actual
construction
of
the
museum,
so
that
we
can
see
something
concrete
well.
B
G
B
E
Any
other
questions.
Well,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you,
because
it's
something
that
you
and
I
have
both
spoken
about
and
it's
about
including
other
cultures
that
have
been
in
our
city
and
have
helped
grow
our
city,
and
you
know
that
you
have
asked
me
about
the
farm
workers
and
I've,
given
you
some
direction
of
where
you
can
go
and
get
some
of
that
history.
So
thank
you
because
even
the
farm
workers
have
approached
us.
I
have
approached
me
over
the
years.
How
can
they
be
included
in
the
history
of
apopka?
B
A
Some
fees
we're
obviously
getting
eight
percent
more
in
taxes
anyway,
so
just
giving
them
that
little
sense
of
hope
that
little
tenth
of
a
percent
will
go
a
long
way
toward
making
them
feel
better.
That
hey
we're,
really
we
we're
in
their
camp.
We
feel
what
they're
feeling
that
you
know
they
lost
that
job
for
six
months
they're,
you
know
they've
had
cobe
and
had
to
stay
out
of
work
for
for
two
weeks.
A
A
I
think
I
don't
know
how
you
argue
that
that's
that's
not
a
you
know
a
significant
amount
of
additional
dollars
coming
in
so
I
mean,
I
hope,
I'll.
You
know
get
somebody
to
to
make
that
motion
that
that
we
reduce
the
millage
by
0.10
and
and
help
our
taxpayers
who
are
paying
the
bills
just
a
little
bit
of
relief.
E
H
Yeah,
I've
gotten
that
response
from
different
taxpayers,
and
I
know
we
talked
to
different
people.
There
are
some
who
are
at
a
place
where
you
know
they're,
really
in
a
good
position,
they'd
like
to
see
us
go
ahead
and
raise
those
taxes
up,
there's
always
going
to
be
a
variation
across
the
board,
but
I've
had
from
all
economic
parts
of
the
spectrum,
also
come
to
me
and
say:
no.
We
really
want
you
to
keep
the
reins
on
that.
Otherwise,
where
does
where
will
it
stop?
H
So
we
are
increasing
those
taxes,
in
fact,
even
with
pulling
that
back
just
a
little
bit
and
the
other
side,
I
always
remember,
is
we're
not
the
only
source
that
taxes
each
person
we're
one
of
many,
and
so
when
you
take
all
of
the
sources,
thank
god
we
don't
live
in
california,
where
three
dollars
per
gallon
is
all
in
taxes.
You
know
I
I
just
try
and
keep
those
things
in
mind
and
for
myself
I
I
think
it's
a,
I
think
it's
a
sound
move
forward.
H
I
think
we've
taken
some
solid
steps
and
I
think
that
does
speak
to
our
taxpayers
as
we
try
to
also
speak
to
our
our
staff.
We
want
to
have
them
to
have
the
increases
and
have
you
know
that
six
percent
to
be
able
to
bring
merit
raises.
So
I
think,
as
we
do,
that
across
the
board,
it's
the
most
balanced
way
to
approach
it.
So
I'm
I'm
definitely
willing
myself
to
make
a
motion
to
accept
that
that
budget,
at
that,
at
that
rate,.
E
E
C
Commissioner,
I
can
check
on
that.
I
don't
I
don't
know.
I
don't
know
that
answer.
I
can
look
and
get
that
answer
for
you,
so
so
you're,
basically
saying
if
something's
already
budgeted
and
earmarked
and
approved,
can
you
come
back
now
and
use
that
cares,
money
to
fund
that
and
put
that
money
somewhere
else?
I
will
check
on
that
and
let
you
know
okay
and.
E
C
I
said
that's
confusing,
but
that
I
want
to
have
all
that
information
together,
because
I
want
you
to
see
everything
how
it
can
be
used.
There
are
some
very
interesting
things
in
how
these
dollars
can
be
used,
and
I
don't
want
us
to
leave
anything
on
the
table
if
there's
by
chance
a
place
where
we
can
use
these
dollars.
For
some
of
these
things,
we've
talked
about
right,
that'd
be
great,
but
we're
hearing
that
a
lot
of
it
is
so
restricted.
C
It
has
to
be
for
specific
things,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
do
that
correctly,
so
that
you
know
as
we're
audited
by
the
by
the
feds
that,
because
you
know
this
will
be
audited
every
year
in
our
audit
and
it'll
have
to
be
checked
to
those
numbers,
and-
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
a
grant,
we're
just
getting
off
the
ground
with
it.
There'll
be
another
round.
A
But
but
one
of
the
things
we
want
to
try
to
do
that
edward
and
I've
talked
about
you
know
we.
If
you
look
at
the
application
we
did
for
camp
wewa,
it
was
literally
200
pages
and
it
took
you
know
a
whole
team
to
put
that
application
together.
So
all
I'm
going
to
ask
you-
and
that's
not
for
me
it's
for
vladimir
and
for
edward-
is
that
we
try
to
make
it
two
or
three
big
projects
yeah.
So
we
have
less
reporting
accounting.
A
F
E
C
Right,
correct,
yes,
correct
we're
doing
that
we're
going
even
a
little
higher
than
we
are
on
the
duke
money,
because
this
has
more
restrictions
than
that
duke
money
had
what
we're
doing
with
the
re.
The
rescue
act.
Money
is
and
you'll
see
in
your
budget.
It
all
went
into
the
grant
fund,
so
it's
in
the
reserves
and
the
grant
fund
so
that
we
don't
mix
those
dollars
and
then
what
we'll
do
is
we've
taken
a
million
already
that
we
put
just
resurfacing
and
it
was
a
big
issue,
a
big
thing.
C
Those
funds
for
you
so
you'll
be
able
to
see
so
and
keep
in
mind
if
that,
if
a
lot
of
times
too,
what
you
can
do
is
that
rescue
dollar
might
fund
a
project,
a
future
project
that
we
had
or
a
project
that
you
know
that
that
we're
trying
we're
putting
some
general
fund
dollars
to
we're,
putting
some
other
grant
monies
to
we're.
Putting
impact
monies
to
that
we're
trying
to
fund
this
may
be
able
to
help
that
and
then
relieve
some
of
those
reserves
or
funding
in,
for
example,
say
the
general
fund.
C
If
there's
something
that
can
be
used
for
in
the
general
fund,
then
we'll
it'll
it
can.
It
can
free
up.
Some
of
the
current
projects,
like
you've,
said
we'll
fund
a
project
that
we
need
to
fund,
but
instead
of
having
to
fund
that
with
future
revenues,
we
can
use
those
future
revenues
for
other
for
other
budget
items
in
the
general
fund.
C
It
almost
labeled
a
lot
of
the
usage
as
an
enterprise
fund
for
your
enterprise
funds,
water,
sewer
broadband.
It
was
things
that
you
know
and
then
things
that
that
coveted
things
that
were
affected.
So
it's
very
strict.
It's
not
just
a
free
here's,
three
and
a
half
million
dollars.
You
can
use
it
wherever
you
want
to
use
it.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
we
use
it
correctly
and
so
that
when
we
bring
that
back,
you'll
be
able
to
see
those
dollars
and
then
we'll
be
able
to
to
appropriate
those.
F
Becker
yeah,
I
mean
I
just
want
to
put
it
in
the
right
lens
too.
I
mean
property
taxes
out
of
our
general
fund,
make
up
28
29
of
that
overall
revenue
contribution.
So
you
know
when
we
talk
about,
you
know:
property
taxes
being
the
end-all
be-all.
It's
not
you
know.
80
72
percent
comes
from
other
funding
sources.
So
what
we
control
is
that
property
tax
and
if
the
rest
of
that
revenue
is
volatile
in
nature,
what
we're
doing
is
protecting
a
revenue
stream.
F
That's
going
to
critical
need
within
our
city,
based
off
of
the
workshops
that
we
had
based
off
of
hearing
from
the
director
level
staff
as
well
as
their
staff.
I
don't
think
that
reducing
it,
I
think,
keeping
it
at
4.2876
keeping
it
at
the
same
rate.
Now
we
can,
we
can
talk
about
that's
a
tax
increase
over
the
rollback
rate,
but
there's
no
way
we
should
be
considering
having
a
revenue
year
over
year.
F
The
same
when
we
know
we
know
well
that
expenses
have
gone
up
so
and
then
the
point
that
you
just
made
even
kind
of
validates.
My
point
of
view
that
some
of
the
funds
that
we're
thinking
that
we
can
use
may
be
more
restrictive
in
nature
than
we
thought
and
with
all
the
encumbrances
that
we're
talking
about
with
potential
earmarks
out
of
the
general
fund,
because
we
think
that
we're
flush
with
it
if
the
we
lost
stuff
doesn't
come
to
fruition.
E
H
I
would
agree
if
we
didn't
have
as
many
advances
as
we
did
make
in
many
areas,
but
we
really
did
make
a
lot
just
maybe
for
food
for
thought,
for
you
had
we
not
done
that,
then
I
think
we
would
be
staying
the
same,
but
we
really
did
do
a
lot
to
beef
up
and
strengthen
in
a
difficult
time
when
we
get
beyond
that.
I
think
we're
really
going
to
be
able
to
sail
and
move
forward
so.