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From YouTube: Apopka City Council Meeting October 21, 2020
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Apopka City Council Meeting at City Hall on October 21, 2020 at 7 PM. To view the meeting agenda visit: http://www.apopka.net/agenda
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B
Assume
the
attitude
of
prayer,
our
father,
god
will
come
once
again
and
say
thank
you
for
another
opportunity
to
be
yet
among
the
living
and
not
among
the
dead,
to
dwell
in
a
country
where
we
can
serve
and
praise
you.
We
come
now
and
ask
your
blessings
upon
this
city.
Council
meeting
bless
our
mayor.
These
councilmen
and
all
the
participants
that
are
here
this
afternoon
blessing
the
leaders
to
guide
us.
B
B
And
to
the
republic
for
which
it
stands,
one
nation,
under
god,
indivisible
with
liberty
and
justice
for
all
our
fight.
For
today,
in
the
preach
town
of
shalon,
sir
marin,
an
american
officer
selects
invited
the
first
unknown
soldier
to
be
honored
with
among
the
approximately
77
000
united
states
servicemen
killed
on
the
western
front
during
world
war.
One
four
american
bodies
were
transported
transported
to
salon
that
was
buried
at
nearby
cemeteries.
B
These
men
were
buried
without
any
indication
of
name
rank
organization
or
date
of
death
sergeant,
edward
younger,
the
man
given
the
task
of
making
this
election
carried
a
spray
of
white
roses
with
which
to
mark
the
chosen
casket.
He
selected
the
third
casket
from
the
left
and
thus
began
the
journey
of
the
unknown
soldier
bearing
the
inscription,
an
unknown
american
who
gave
his
life
in
the
world
war.
The
chosen
cast
would
travel
to
paris
and
then
to
lehigh
roof
france,
where
it
would
board
the
cruising
olympia
for
the
boys
across
the
atlantic.
B
A
Okay,
approval
of
the
minutes.
Any
changes
to
minutes
not
look
for
a
motion
to
approve,
so
we've
got
a
motion
by
commissioner
smith.
Second,
second,
like
mr
becker,
all
those
in
favor
aye
all
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously
next
up
presentations,
jeff
weatherford
he's
going
well
he's
coming
up.
Just
one
they've
got
some
distinguished
guests
in
the
room
with
us:
we've
got
lisa
and
susan
from
saint
john's
water,
man,
you're
gonna,
stand
up
and
jeff
littlejohn
from
on-site.
So
thank
you
for
coming
out
tonight.
C
Well,
we've
cleaned
up
our
portion
of
it,
but
right
now
we've
got
a
lot
of
septic
systems
that
are
still
out
there,
and
these
septic
systems
put
these
extra
nutrients
into
the
system.
Creating
potentials
for
algae
blooms,
fish
kills
those
types
of
things
and
we
want
for
our
springs,
to
be
important
because
they're
important
they're,
they're
important
part
of
our
ecology
here.
C
Basically,
instead
of
having
their
normal
septic
system
maintenance
and
such
they'd
have,
the
residents
would
only
have
a
sewer
bill,
just
like
everyone
else
with
regular
city
sewer
has
how
does
it
work?
Well,
it's
not
a
septic.
It's
not
a
next
generation
septic
tank.
It's
actually
a
micro
waste
water
plant
basically
sits
there
in
the
backyard.
C
It
has
been
field
tested
by
the
state
of
florida
to
make
sure
that
it
works
the
way
we'd
like
it,
exceeds
the
state
treatment
standards
and
is
content
continuously
monitored
by
state
licensed
operators
remotely
the
same
as
our
system
would
be
that
it
has
a
scada
control
system
where,
as
is
monitored,
they'll
know
of
their
problems,
they'll
be
able
to
make
adjustments
and
such
there's
no
risk
of
sewer
overflows
or
clogging
or
anything
like
that.
During
power
failures,
the
system
will
continue
operating
on
its
own
and
storing
up
and
recirculating.
C
St
john's
river
water
management
district
that
they're
providing
funding
most
of
the
funding
for
this,
although
there
are
some
shared
costs
what's
next
is
we
said
that
this
is
going
to
go
out
there
and
look
at
these
different
systems?
But
it's
a
voluntary
program
we're
to
start
doing
some
community
engagement
with
our
sustainable
sustainability.
People
here
and
educating
the
sys,
the
citizens
about
it,
be
a
flyer
campaign.
E
I'm
glad
you
have
that
that
neighborhood
picture,
because
I
mean
the
people
that
have
approached
me-
the
most
have
been
residents
from
that
particular
neighborhood.
So
it's
probably
relevant
that
you
have
that
up
on
the
screen.
Just
kind
of
talk
me
through
what
does
that
cost
structure
look
like,
so
it's
grant
funded
partial
city
funded
partial
resident
funded.
What
does
that
look
like.
A
Jeff,
I
think
it's
2500
is
what
the
city's
our
obligation
is.
2,
500
and
the
systems
are
12
to
14
000
somewhere
in
that
range.
Why
don't
you
come
on
up?
This?
Is
jeff
littlejohn
who's,
the
let's
we
go
wait.
Well,
I
don't
go
way
back
with
jeff.
I
go
way
back
his
mother
and
father.
I
dealt
with
a
lot
when
I
was
a
legislator
in
tallahassee,
so
it's
great
to
be.
Have
sun
doing
the
same
thing
that
mother
and
father
were
doing.
You
know
just
a
few
years
ago.
So
thank.
F
F
For
that
time.
Right
here
in
this
community
or
right
near
you
know
right
near
this
communities,
we
love
being
able
to
start
where
we,
you
know
right
here
where
we
got
started
up
to
answer
your
question,
commissioner,
the
the
state
and
the
water
management
district
are
picking
up.
75
percent
of
the
costs
and
the
city
has
has
agreed
to
pick
up
the
delta,
so
the
cost
of
the
homeowner
should
be
minimal
or
not
or
zero.
F
There
could
be
a
possibility
of
a
of
a
cost.
If
there's
an
issue
like
you
know,
a
offense
has
to
be
removed
and
replaced
in
order
to
access
the
system.
The
decision
hasn't
been
made
whether
the
program
should
pick
up
all
of
those
ancillary
costs
or
if
there
are
some
of
those
site-by-site
costs
that
might
need
to
be
worked
out
with
the
homeowner
to
pay
extra,
but
our
goal
is
to
make
this
voluntary
and
be
as
easy
as
possible
for
the
homeowner
with
the
state
and
the
water
management
district
and
the
city.
F
A
A
Oh,
we
we
probably
got
well,
it's
not
only
the
ones
that
are
in
the
city.
It's
also
one
of
the
one
of
the
challenges
we
have
with
apopka
is
thompson:
road.
Okay,
my
neighborhood
is
most
of
the
neighbors
in
the
back
are
in
orange
county.
They
need
the
two
neighborhoods
deer
lake
and
the
other
neighborhood
are
in
orange
county
and
yet
they're
in
our
utility
services,
which
at
some
point
could
become
a
problem
as
we
have
to
meet
the
b
maps
because
we're
we're
challenged
with
upgrading
the
water
quality
in
our
service
area.
A
C
Some
cases
this
will
be
and,
like
I
said
this
is
a
starter
program
where
we're
looking
to
get
started
in
some
of
the
areas
closest
to
the
springs.
There
are
some
other
areas
where
we've
got
some
mobile
home
parks
that
are
on
septic,
that
are
inside
the
city
and
such
where
we
think
it
would
actually
be
more
cost
effective
to
actually
put
them
on
regular
city
sewer.
So
it'll
be
a
combination
of
things
as
we
try
and
move
through
to
get.
E
G
A
C
E
C
With
the
funding
we
have
right
now,
then,
yes,
they
would
have
to
sit
here
and
do
it
on
their
own.
That
again,
we
could
then
take
it
over
and
build
them
for
those
maintenance
and
operations
costs.
Our
intent
is
that
if
this
works
out
and
tends
to
be,
a
a
popular
program
is
to
go
back
to
our
good
friends
to
st
john's
and.
F
Commissioner,
I'd
just
like
to
follow
up
on
that
item.
I
happen
to
know
that
st
john's
has
about
a
1.5
million
dollar
fund
for
this
75
match,
and
this
community
is
one
of
three
communities
in
florida,
they're
eligible
for
that
funding.
So
there's
more
money
available.
If
we
run
out
with
this
first
20.,
I
think
that
the
goal
here
is
to
launch
it
with
this
program,
determine
the
amount
of
the
appetite
for
for
growth
and
then
talk
to
our
funding
partners
at
the
state
and
the
water
management
district
to
identify
more
funds.
Okay,.
A
Yeah
exactly
and
that's-
and
you
know
we
have
a
glenn
having
bigger
lots,
becomes
even
more
expensive,
like
I
know,
orange
county's,
looking
at
sweetwater,
west
and
they're
talking
about
sixty
thousand
dollars
to
convert
from
septic
to
sewer
so
we're
down.
You
know
at
a
much
more
reasonable
cost
and-
and
I
hope
one
of
the
things
jeff,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
sending
to
all
the
the
commissioners,
is
the
the
results
you've
gotten
from
the
the
testing
field.
A
If
the
electricity
goes
down
which
it
could
under
a
hurricane
situation
or
something
the
system
will
continue
to
operate,
and
that's
one
of
the
big
challenges
with
some
of
these
atu's
advanced
treatment
systems
that
they
go
down,
your
your
starts
packing
up
your
house
almost
immediately,
so
these
systems
will
continue
to
work,
even
if
the
power
is
down
for
three
or
four
days.
So
it's
it's.
It's.
I
think
a
really
cost-effective
solution
that
takes
care
of
most
of
the
the
issues
we
might
face.
C
C
Normal
about
the
same
as
you're
paying
for
your
sewer
every
month.
So
it's
not
like
that
where
this
is
a
ten
thousand
dollar
unit
and
we're
going
to
build
them
for
the
cost
of
the
ten
thousand
dollar
unit
over
a
ten
year
period
and
that
their
sewer
bill
is
going
to
be.
You
know
150
a
month
or
whatever
with
interest
or
anything.
It's
going
to
be
like
you
get
a
normal
water
bill,
and
you
know
that
with
your
water
bill,
you've
got
the
sewer
component,
it
would
be
the
sewer
component.
A
And
you
know
in
the
front,
part
of
your
neighborhood
is
also
on
septic,
so
they
would
they'd,
be
they'd,
be
their
next
neighborhood.
We
kind
of
were
grappling
as
do
we
open
up
to
a
whole
bunch
more
people
and
then
run
through
the
20
systems
and
all
of
a
sudden
we
got
50
backlogged
and
I'd.
Rather,
let's
get
the
first
20
and
then
we'll
we'll
ask
our
funding
partners
to
come
back.
If
we
get
more,
you
know,
let's
go
back
to
them
and
and
try
to
so.
Why
wasn't.
H
C
C
A
I
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
commission,
so
lisa
kelly,
st
john's
river,
water
management
district,
I'm
our
assistant
executive
director-
and
I
am
here
today
to
say
we
are
very
proud
to
be
a
partner
in
this
project.
It
has
so
many
benefits
to
the
springs
which
are
important
to
the
district,
as
well
as
to
the
city
of
apopka
you're,
setting
a
regional
example
here,
and
we
are
very
proud
to
have
this
opportunity
to
invest
in
this
type
of
innovation.
A
Thank
you,
and
so
we'll
probably
have
mailers
out
in
the
next
three
weeks.
Okay,
so
mailer
will
be
going
to
all
the
homeowners
in
week.
I
have
a
glenn
in
the
next
three
weeks.
Okay.
Next
up,
this
is
kind
of
a
a
last-minute
presentation,
but
I
had
a
call
from
melissa
byrd
that
she
was
excited
about
a
program
that
the
apopka
fire
department
came
up
on
their
own
and
she
wanted
to
come.
Give
us
a
little
heads
up
on
some
some
things
that
ocps
is
doing
with
it.
J
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mayor
for
letting
me
come
in
here
last
minute.
Thank
you,
commissioners,
for
letting
me
have
a
little
bit
of
your
time
tonight.
I
wanted
to
come
to
do
a
little
bragging
on
our
apopka
fire
department.
I
spoke
a
couple
months
ago
at
leadership
apopka
with
the
apoca
chamber
and
lieutenant
mayor.
Was
there
part
of
the
group
and
he
came
up
to
me
and
said
you
know
I
have
this
idea,
I'm
thinking
you
know.
Normally
we
do
fire
safety,
but
I
know
with
covid.
J
We
can't
really
go
in
the
schools
and
it
wouldn't
be
a
good
idea
to
bring
all
the
kids
through
the
fire
truck,
and
so
I'm
thinking,
maybe
we
could
do
some
videos
or
something
I
said.
Well,
you
know
that
sounds
neat.
Let's
have
a
meeting,
and
so
we
I
put
together
a
meeting
with
him
and
some
district
folks
and
we
talked
about
it
further
and
he
had
just
all
kinds
of
great
ideas,
and
so
he
he
went
ran
with
it.
J
Just
ran
with
it
and
these
videos
they
produced
seven
videos,
okay,
and
I
think
I
sent
them
to
you
mayor.
I
don't
know
if
you
have
a
kid
they're
great
aren't
they
they
produce
seven
videos
and
the
coolest
thing
about
this.
Is
these
videos
are
not
only
getting
shown
to
our
local
apopka
schools,
but
they're
distributed
they've
been
distributed
out
to
all
of
our
ocps
schools,
so
all
of
our
ocps
schools
are
enjoying
these
fantastic
videos
by
our
own
apopka
fire
department.
J
G
F
G
J
Tiny
snippet
of
these
videos,
each
video
is
about
seven
minutes
long
and,
like
I
said,
there's
seven
of
them
and
they're
really
engaging
really
fun.
The
kids,
I'm
sure
the
kids
are
loving
them
and
we're
just
so
excited
I'm
so
proud
of
them,
and
I
just
really
want
to
thank
lieutenant
here,
because
he
he
really
showed
tremendous
leadership
and
took
over
this
project
and
just
went
way
way
above
and
beyond
what
we
expected,
and
he
even
told
me
today
make
sure
that
you
acknowledge
that
it's
a
whole
team
effort.
J
J
A
A
H
A
H
P
P
On
february
20th
2019,
the
city
council
approved
a
planned
development
master
plan,
preliminary
development
plan
for
mid-florida
logistics
logistics
park,
which
details
the
development
of
five
industrial
lot
park.
I'm
sorry,
five
lot
industrial
park
subdivision
the
applicant
is
requesting
approval
of
a
final
development
plan
for
lav4
for
the
construction
of
approximately
246
000
square
feet
of
industrial
warehouse
building.
All
elements
of
the
final
development
plan
are
consistent
with
the
approved
pd
master
plan
plan.
Preliminary
development
plan
access
to
the
site
is
via
shelby
industrial
drive,
a
public
wrote
the
approved,
pd
master
plan.
P
Preliminary
development
plan
allows
a
parking
ratio
of
0.89
parking
spaces
per
1000
square
feet
of
gross
floor
area.
For
this
proposed
building
220
parking
spaces
are
required
while
the
applicant
is
proposing
264
parking
spaces
consistent
with
the
approved
pd
master
plan.
Preliminary
development
plan
trees,
including
crepe
myrtles,
ligustrum,
southern
magnolias
and
live
oaks,
are
provided
on
site.
P
N
A
H
D
D
L
L
We
are
taking
a
portion
of
the
roadway
of
sandpiper
shaving
a
little
bit
off
and
it
brings
it
brings
that
whole
parcel
down
to
8.03
or
093
acres.
That's
so
that
we
can
align
sandpiper
on
the
east
side
to
sandpiper
on
the
west
side
and
traffic
light
is
going
to
be
planned
for
that
that
corner.
Also
back
in
february
2017,
we
declared
two
pieces
of
surplus
property.
This
was
one
the
marshall
lake
property
out
off
of
john's
road
was.
L
L
Unfortunately,
the
people
that
offered
that
had
the
original
offer
they
backed
out
of
the
deal
they
realized
that
they
didn't
have
the
tenants
that
they
needed
at
the
time.
So
they
backed
out
of
the
deal.
So
we
let
it
sit
for
a
little
while
we
did
have
to
get
the
appraisal
redone
and
we
did
get
a
survey
completed.
We
also
have
a
survey
that
staff
did
that
took
out
that
portion
of
sandpiper
road
to
bring
it
down
to
that
8.093
acres.
L
L
Million
dollars,
one
of
the
requirements
that
we
did
have
on
this
was
that
it
was
supposed
to
actually
have
a
minimum
bid
of
that.
But
we
did.
We
were
going
to
take
into
consideration
taking
that
portion
of
sandpiper
out
which,
in
the
staff
report
that
we
put
together,
would
actually
bring
the
price
down
to
only
about
1.213
million
dollars.
L
One
of
the
things
that
did
come
up
was
a
time
period
for
the
first
bid
for
sale,
where
we
would
basically
complete
the
sale
within
190
or
120
days,
and
they
asked
for
an
additional
90
days
if
they
needed
it.
That
would
be
up
to
your
discussion
if
we
wanted
to
just
make
sure
everything
was
done
within
120
days
or
if
we
wanted
to
add
in
60,
90
or
120
days,
for
for
the
bid
or
for
additional
time
frame.
L
I
believe
that's
yep,
that's
all
the
information
that
we
have
on
it.
It
was
advertised
only
did
we
put
something
out
on
the
property,
it
was
also
on
the
city's
website.
It
was
the
bids
were
through
demand
star,
we
also
advertised
in
the
newspaper,
and
we
had
just
the
the
two
bids.
We
really
don't
know
why
we
didn't
get
more,
but
I
think
covert
probably
had
a
little
bit
to
do
with
that.
H
I'm
very
much
against
it.
I
think
it's
bad
stewardship,
25
percent,
less
of
the
value
for
a
prime
piece
of
property
on
our
main
thorough
one
of
our
main
thoroughfares.
I
I
just
don't
see
doing
that.
I
mean
if
I
were
the
bitter.
I
think
that's
a
good
deal,
but
no
I
just
I.
I
can't
see
doing
that
myself
at
all.
A
K
K
D
A
L
E
L
Yes
and
water
and
sewer
is
right
there,
so
you
don't
have
to
extend
water,
water
and
sewer
lines
to
it.
So
it's
and
with
that
option
for
the
potential
traffic
light
and
you
know
kicking
in
for
that
that
could
happen.
Even
that
could
happen
faster
and
then,
of
course,
that
makes
it
that
much
more
valuable,
because
it's
that
much
more
accessible.
A
G
K
Okay,
there's
great
latitude
on,
however,
you
wanted
to
probably
just
to
disclose
the
property,
but
I
think
the
first
matter
would
be
to
close
out
this
bid.
That's
outstanding
and
reject
the
bids,
and
therefore,
then
this
process
that
was
begun
can
be
terminated
and
then
direct
staff
to
dispose
of
the
property
their
they
staff
can
come
back.
You
would
give
you
options
that
we
could
do
it
this
way.
This
way,
without
necessarily
don't
necessarily
have
to
direct
staff.
Do
it
this
way,
but
I
think
direct
staff
to
examine
other
options
to
dispose.
E
A
D
D
D
A
M
Manju
agarwal
and
rohita
sagarwal.
We
had
bid
for
that
and
it's
I
accept
that
it
is
not
accepted,
but
I
would
like
to
show
my
interest
in
the
property
that
I
have
lived
and
worked
in
apapa
for
past
18
years
and
now
we
want
this
piece
of
property
to
set
up
medical
offices
and
endoscopy
center
so
that
there
is
no
endoscopy
center
right
now,
because
the
hospital
has
moved
and
I
am
willing
to
for
the
options
you
give.
M
K
It
is
staff's
prerogative
right
now
to
even
determine
whether
to
put
the
property
back
up
for
sale
as
the
as
the
bids.
It's
similar
to
an
offer
has
been
placed
on
a
house,
that's
for
sale,
and
you
reject
the
offer
sure
there
is
then
open
for
a
negotiation.
At
this
point,
it's
not
a
question
of
bidding
for
the
property.
Now
it's
a
it's
a
question
of.
K
However,
the
city
wants
to
put
up
how
to
put
up
the
property
for
sale
is
simply
putting
it
up
for
sale,
as
you
would
at
your
residential
property
and
then
come
up
and
take
offers.
But
there's
no
formal
action
right
now
for
this
council
to
take
the
matter
is
not
being
brought
up
for
consideration,
so
it's
solely
up
to
if
the
prospective
buyer
wants
to
negotiate
with
the
city
staff.
B
A
M
D
A
A
K
K
Mayor
we
need
to
go
back.
It
was
just
brought
to
my
attention.
We
need
to
go
back
to
the
previous
agenda
item
for
the
just.
The
orlando
beltway
associates
that
agenda
item
called
for
it
was
a
two-part.
The
recommended
action
was
for
adoption
of
the
ordinance
which
you
did
there's
also
the
the
approval
of
the
master
plan,
which
was
not
done
if
we
can
go
back
and
so.
A
G
Q
Ordinance
number
2794
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida
to
extend
its
territorial
and
municipal
limits
to
annex
pursuant
to
florida
statute.
171.044
the
here
and
after
described,
lands
situated
and
being
in
orange
county
florida
owned
by
mid-florida
freezer
properties,
llc
located
south
of
west
orange
blossom,
trail
and
west
of
lake
view,
road,
providing
for
directions
to
the
city,
clerk,
severability
conflicts
and
an
effective
date.
G
A
Q
G
A
Questions
for
brian
okay.
Anybody
public
wish
to
speak
on
this
matter,
if
not
we'll
close
the
public
hearing
loop
for
a
motion
to
approve
ordinance
number
2795
at
first
reading
and
hold
over
for
a
second
reading
and
adoption
motion
by
commissioner
becker.
Second,
second
by
commissioner
smith,
all
those
in
favor,
aye,
aye,
all
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously
next
up
city
council
reports,
fisher
banks.
H
H
I'm
not
sure
where
we
are
in
that
I
did
talk
to
an
arborist
and
they
did
voice
concern
being
new
plants.
So
I
just
want
to
bring
that
back
to
attention.
Let's
make
sure
that
there's
not
anything
that
that
they're,
I
don't
know
if
the
the
hotel
is
responsible
for
trimming
those
because
they
don't
look
as
nice
with
the
bottom
branches
ground
out,
but
I
was
more
concerned
that
being
a
new
plant,
are
they
rooted
well
and
doing?
A
G
F
A
O
Yeah,
that
is
brian,
might
be
able
to
speak
to
this
as
well,
but
we
have
the
palms
that
you
know
that
we
have
on
main
street
441
that
we
have
done
at
436
and
441
and
a
few
other
ones
that
we
have
we're
here
at
the
parking.
Now
we
have
some
more
new
palms
in
the
parking
we
have
in
this
budget.
We
have
a
vendor
that
is
going
to
be
trimming,
those
for
us.
I
think
they
trim
them
twice
a
year
based
on
the
requirements.
O
O
I
H
Okay,
other
thing
I
just
wanted
to
to
clarify
something:
you
know
we
all
get
emails
and
I
was
warned
that
there
are
things
going
around
on
next
door,
which
I'm
not
not
on
that.
I
just
wanted
to
even
speak
to
the
public.
I
have
not
been,
or
have
ever
ever
even
been
asked
to
be
a
part
of
secret
meetings,
so
I
don't
know
where
that
came
from
and
there's
no
conspiracy
to
bump
out
to
commissioner
becker.
It's
like
you
know,
that's.
H
C
H
But
you
know
I
mean
kidding
aside.
I
know,
there's
great
concern
about
this
and
and
again
maybe
that
maybe
the
paper
would
like
to
do
a
further
explanation
on
quasi-judicial
and
the
issues
why
we
can't
speak
more
specifically
because
we
have
to
sit
in
the
quasi-judicial
situation
so
to
say
ahead
of
time
to
any
party.
H
You
got
this
one
in
the
bag
actually
jeopardizes
their
rights
and
that's
my
bigger
concern
because
we
do
we're
here
for
our
citizens
and
I
think
our
citizens
need
to
know
that,
and
maybe
with
a
little
more
clarification
for
them,
they
would
realize,
because
you
know
we
get
the
threatening
letters
and
all
those
different
things
which
I
can
understand.
If
you
don't
know,
that's
why
we
can't
speak
further
on
those
things.
But
you
know
the
biggest
thing
is.
A
A
This
is
the
process,
and-
and
here
are
the
opportunities
you
as
the
public
have
to
weigh
in
on
whatever
decisions
we
make
so
it
you
know,
and
I've
got
the
you
know,
I've
gotten
calls
and
emails
that
I
can't
believe
you're
already
in
the
bag.
I
like.
How
did
you
get
that
from
that
that
article?
But
that's
you,
know
I've
gotten
those
calls
and
and.
H
So
and
for
them
to
understand
that
if
we
say
anything
that
seems
to
favor
one
side
or
the
other,
we
could
actually
hurt
their
legal
case.
So
it's
real
frustrating
being
here
and
not
being
able
to
speak
freely
on
those
things.
But
it
is
a
legal
matter
and
then
fair
to
all,
and
then
it
gives
the
greatest
protection
for
our
own
citizens
and
that's
that's
the
main
purpose.
So,
yes,.
H
B
D
B
So
I
have
to
be
careful
what
I
say
as
well,
and
I
just
acknowledged
it.
I
received
the
email
and
that's
about
all
I
can
can
do
legally
at
this
point,
but
I
do
want
to
also
remind
us
that
this
is
breast
cancer
awareness
month
as
well
as
domestic
violence
month
and
last
council
meeting
with
my
pinks
for
breast
cancer,
and
this.
E
Well,
I
want
to
address
that
too,
and
I'm
not
even
going
to
address
secret
meetings,
because
I
think
that's
below
me
that
one
would
even
assume
that
I'd
do
something
like
that,
because
I
would
never,
but
but
to
your
point
even
on
you
know,
land
use
changes
where
it's
more
legislative
in
nature
and
we
have
a
little
bit
more
latitude
at
the
end
of
the
day.
If
any
of
us
up
here
commit
to
how
we're
going
to
vote
on
anything,
it
would
violate
the
law.
E
So
we
can
all
have
our
opinions
and
be
up
here
even
on
the
legislative
thing
where
we
do
have
that
latitude,
but
to
commit
to
a
vote,
how
we're
going
to
vote.
It
would
just
be
not
appropriate
and
it
would
be
against
the
law,
and
that's
that
you
know
every
email
I
get
into
commissioner
smith's
point.
You
know
we
get
several
a
day.
I
wouldn't
say
some
days.
We
could
probably
get
five
some
days
we
get
10..
E
So,
in
all
fairness
to
me,
I
have
gone
a
little
bit
form
in
my
in
my
response
to
people,
but
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
we
have
to
weigh
all
the
facts.
We
have
to
wait
and
see
what
you
know.
The
application
looks
like
what
the
community
meeting
looks
like
what
the
feedback
from
that
community
community
meeting
looks
like
what
the
drc
decides.
What
the
planning
commission
recommends
to
this
board
this
council
for
us
to
even
start
thinking
about
it,
so
let
it
play
out.
E
A
I
kind
of
liken
it
to
you,
know
being
in
the
jury,
pool
and
getting
called
up,
and
you
get
on
the
call
on
the
jury
and
they
start
asking
you
questions.
You
go
well
that
guy's
guilty
well,
then
you're
immediately
thrown
off
and
we're
kind
of
that
position.
If
we
say
yeah
that
you
know
that's
a
great
project
or
that's
or
I'm
voting
against
it,
you
know
they
want
to
throw
you
off
the
the
jury
which
is
kind
of
what
we
are.
I
E
E
And
then
for
the
hr,
I
know
we've
we've
talked
about
this,
but
I
I
firmly
believe
we
need
a
director
level
position
in
that
role
because
we
do
have
such
a
large
workforce
and
it's
you
know
a
certain
percentage
of
our
budget
expenditure,
there's
just
a
lot
of
risk.
If
we
don't
have
a
formal
hr
director
position
staffed,
we
have
it
in
our
budget.
It
was
approved
in
our
budget
and
I
would
like
to
adhere
to
what
we
said
in
the
budget
for
that
that
position.
O
O
We
have
had
turnover
in
that
position
if
you
will
and-
and
I
will
tell
you
that
a
lot
of
that
turnover
is
because
of
some
of
the
prior
people
that
we
had
in
those
positions-
we're
not
strong
in
those
positions,
and
so
what
we
have
done
is
jeannie
green,
who
was
office
manager
in
community
development
stepped
up
and
and
to
fill
that
role
for
us
she
was
going
to
retire.
She
got
26
years
of
experience
with
the
city.
O
She
knows
the
employees
she's
set
on
the
pension
board,
so
she
has
a
lot
of
experience
in
that
area
to
be
able
to
help
the
employees.
So
what
we've
done
is
we've
we've
given
her
that
opportunity
to
sit
in
that
it's
and
it's
an
operations
manager
role
right
now.
As
you
know,
the
director
will
come
to
you.
O
If
there's
a
director
would
have
to
come
to
you
for
ratification,
but
jeannie
currently
is
has
has
stepped
up
the
plate
to
fill
that
role
to
kind
of
get
things
flowing,
get
things
moving,
get
the
process
going.
We
need
to
hire.
We
have
a
position.
We
need
to
hire
she's
currently
going
through
that
process
to
hire
an
hr
specialist
person
and
trying
to
get
those
processes
moving
because,
as
you
know,
most
of
hr
what
it,
what
currently,
what
hr
does
it
used
to
have
payroll
used
to
have
risk
now?
O
Hr
just
has
benefits
and
onboarding
and
off-boarding
it
basically
and
evaluation
processes.
That's
the
basic
process
that
it
has
a
lot
of
this.
A
lot
of
the
things
that
were
in
hr
have
been
moved
to
other
departments.
So
do
we
will
we
have
a
director
in
that
position?
That's
the
goal
to
eventually
to
get
to
one
in
that
position,
but,
like
I
said,
jeannie
has
was
going
to
retire,
but
she's
she's
stepped
up
into
that
role.
To
help
us
get
things
flowing,
get
things
moving,
get
those
positions
filled,
get
the
processes
going.
O
That's
one
of
the
problems.
The
problems
we've
had
is
those
processes
haven't
been
haven't,
been
working,
and
I
will
tell
you
that
that
we've
had
a
lot
of
good
feedback
from
the
employees
since
you've
been
into
that
role
with
communicating
to
the
employees
and
giving
them
the
information
that
they
need
so
ultimately
yeah
at
the
end
of
the
day.
Yeah.
E
E
A
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think,
with
the
other
thing
is
you
forgot
to
mention
chuck
who's
been
trying
to
handle
the
financial
side
of
hr,
which
you
know
he
came
in
as
a
former
police
chief,
but
really
good
with
numbers,
so
he's
trying
to
get
the
financial
side
fixed
and
then
jeannie's
trying
to
fix
the
hr
side
and
right.
So
you
know
you
just
don't
want
to
bring
somebody
in
a
bad
situation
and
then
make
them
fix
something
that
that
that
wasn't
their
problem.
So
we,
when
we
get
the
everything
kind
of
organized
and
fixed.
A
O
To
you
know
correct-
and
I
will
say,
commissioners
that
we
have
been
through
a
couple
managers
in
those
positions
and
we
haven't
made
improvements
and
so
you're
right.
We
have
to
get
this
stuff
get
the
house
in
order,
get
the
house
in
order,
then
we
can
get.
We
need
to
have
somebody
that
has
the
expertise.
That's
actually
we
need
somebody
that
has
done
the
job,
not
somebody.
This
is
their
first
or
second
year.
We
need
somebody,
that's
got.
You
know
seven
plus
years
of
experience
in
that
field,
and
it's
been
tough
trying
to
find
that.
O
O
Benefit
specialist,
that's
the
that's
the
current
position
that's
being
advertised
and
then
we
have
an
hr
specialist
position.
That's
currently
that
we
have.
We
have
an
employee
in
that
position
and
then
the
hr
manager.
There
are
only
three
three
positions
in
that
department,
very
small
department
and
keep
in
mind.
The
reason
it
is
is
because
a
lot
of
the
functions
that
were
there
were
taken
out.
If
you
recall,
we
took
risk
and
put
it
under
the
attorney.
O
It
was
a
better
place
for
that
function.
So
the
attorney
could
monitor
those
risks,
those
issues
it
was
better
there
and
then
payroll
that
was
before
I
got
came
back,
but
payroll
moved
to
finance.
So
none
of
the
payroll
is
done
in
hr
now
either.
So
there
were
people
in
those
functions,
but
when
those
functions
move
those
people
move
to
those
areas
or
those
departments,
so
there's
a
three:
it's
a
three-member
team
that
we
currently
have
and
the
one
that
we're
advertising
will
complete
that
team.
O
So
it's
it's
we're
trying
to
get
that
team
together,
get
that
team
built
and
get
the
processes
cleaned
up
as
mayor
was
saying,
we're
trying
to
get
all
the
bills
and
everything
cleaned
up
and
everything
straightened
up
so
that
when
we
do
get
to
that
next
step,
it's
running
because
I
think
that's
the
issue.
I
don't.
I
don't
think
you
bring
someone
in
until
we
have
the
house
in
order
and
that's
where
we're
trying
to
get
and
we're
getting
close.
O
That
position
we
have
not
advertised
that
position
that
position
that
still
in
the
budget,
commissioner,
it
has
not
changed
so
the
position
is
still
there,
but
it's
it's
there,
we're
just
continuing
to
work
with
the
chief
and
go
look
through
it,
and
so
it's
that
we
haven't
lost.
We
haven't
the
position's
there.
I
will
tell
you
it's
still
there.
We
just
have
not
advertised
it.
B
O
N
O
I
think
the
problem,
let
me
tell
you,
I
think,
where
we
are
is,
is
we've
got:
we've
been
looking
at
cost
measures
places
and
where
we
can,
where
we
have
can
be
more
efficient
in
our
departments,
we've
talked
about
in
policeman,
we've
talked
about
captain
levels
having
more
captains
having
less
captains.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
looked
at
is
and-
and
I
will
tell
you
and
chief-
can
speak
to
this
from
his
department
or
whatever.
But
if
you
know
in
the
fire
department,
we
did
the
same
thing.
We
didn't.
O
We
no
longer
have
the
deputy
fire
chief,
the
fire
department
has
the
district
or
the
the
division
chiefs,
so
he
has
basically
we've
kind
of
flattened
that
organization,
because
we're
putting
the
positions
down
to
where
they're
closer
to
the
to
the
service
level
that
we
provide
to
the
man
to
the
employees
and
the
service.
All
that
we
provide
so
that
that's
what's
happened
in
those
with
those
and
public
services
and
public
services.
We
did
the
same
thing.
O
O
O
You
know
we've
we've
talked
about.
Like
I
said,
do
we
need
another
captain?
Do
we
need
more
captain
levels?
You
know
to
flatten
that
part
of
the
org
chart
to
get
more
help
and
get
more
more
down
to
the
employee
level
so
down
to
the
to
the
police
officer
level,
so,
but
but
that
police
chief
position
or
that
deputy
chief
position
is
in
there.
B
A
K
A
Okay,
I
got
six
or
eight
items
here
I
mean
we
can
run
through
pretty
quickly.
One
isn't
you
should
have
in
a
packet
there,
the
legislative
priorities,
the
last
two
years,
and
so
just
we've
got
time.
If
you
want
to
take
a
look
at
those,
what
we've
done
is
I've
listed
them
where
they
got
into
the
process.
You
know.
Obviously,
we
had
both
harmon
road
and
fire
station.
Six
both
got
all
the
way
to
the
governor's
desk
and
then
got
vetoed.
Some
other
ones
got
stopped
along
the
way.
A
So
maybe
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
we
probably
next-
maybe
next
commission
meeting,
if
you
guys
kind
of
give
me
a
priority
list
depending
on
you
know
how
the
budget
looks
as
to
what
you
know
how
much
we
want
to
how
greedy
we
want
to
be
in
the
legislative
session,
but
so
anyway,
these
are
just
both
both
years
and
we
obviously
add
something
new
to
that
as
well.
Well,.
A
Yeah
and
there's
and
there's
different
pots
of
money,
that's
legislative
appropriation,
there's
also
dep
and
st
john's
water
management
money
yeah.
I
could.
I
could
talk
about
that,
but
won't
we
wait
till
next
week.
Our
next
commission
meeting,
you
know
jeff's
going
to
go
kind
of
over
flooding
in
general.
Across
the
you
know,
the
city
and
some
some
priorities
that
we
want
to
you
know
take
on
as
it
relates
to
that.
So
so
anyway,
just
take
a
look
at
that
and
then
we'll
get
back
next
week.
A
A
You
know
it's
going
to
be
on
december,
the
12th
five
o'clock
at
our
amphitheater
from
five
to
seven
p.m.
So
we
had
a
great
response
last
year
and
we
want
to
double
or
triple
it
this
year,
so
come
on
out.
Brian
has
got
the
concert.
Series
will
start
at
the
amphitheater
every
saturday
night,
starting
january,
9th
through
may
29th
will
also
be
free
chief.
Do
you
want
to
talk
about
the
accreditation
just
got
renewed
for
what
three
more
years
is
that
right?
A
A
A
As
I
walk
in
the
neighborhood
at
night
with
my
wife
debbie,
we
we
there's
a
united
airline
pilot
lives
in
our
neighborhood,
and
he
said
that
last
was
it
monday
or
sunday
was
the
first
time
that
oia
has
hit
a
million
passengers
coming
through
the
gates,
so
from
a
high
of
2.7
million.
But
he
said
it's,
you
know
it
was
down
to
almost
nothing.
A
So
he
said
you
know,
things
are
looking
up
at
oia
sales
tax
looking
up
so,
commissioner
smith,
thanks
for
your
your
help
on
that,
couldn't
have
done
it
without
you
keep
doing
it
so
anyway.
My
good
friend
john
perry
just
gave
me
just
so
for
folks
to
know
we
on
voting,
totals
from
early
voting
and
and
vote
by
mail
we're
at
22
percent
in
the
apopka
area.
So
there
could
be
some
orange
county
folks
that
that
that
voting
in
apopka
precinct
so
already
at
22
as
of
5
o'clock.
Today,
that's
huge
huge
number.
D
A
You
know
during
the
rainy
season,
from
altamonte,
with
the
ability
to
either
put
it
into
storage
or
and
or
put
it
into
a
rib
which
is
basically
putting
it
back
into
the
aquifer.
So,
looking
forward
to
that
agreement,
they're
great
partners
with
us
and
so
we're
we're
excited
to
be
able
to
to
to
work
with
them,
and
so
with
that.