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From YouTube: Apopka City Council Meeting January 20, 2021
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Apopka City Council Meeting at City Hall on January 20, 2021 at 7 PM.
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A
B
Let's
pray
heavenly
father,
we
thank
you
again
for
this
day
that
we
come
together
to
do
the
business
for
the
people.
Lord,
we
ask
for
your
wisdom
for
your
guidance
and
direction
father.
We
thank
you
as
you
continue
to
navigate
our
nation
as
as
we
move
forward
as
a
nation
together,
father
bring
a
spirit
of
unity
upon
us
and
let
us
come
together
as
a
people.
Lord,
we
ask
you
to
bless
this
evening
and
we
give
you
the
praise
in
jesus
name,
amen,
amen.
B
C
A
Just
to
for
the
record,
I
want
to
let
you
know
that
commissioner
becker
has
one
of
his
family
members
has
coveted
so
he's
not
here
tonight,
but
will
be,
I
guess
his
own
zoom
with
us
or
some
sort
awesome
all
right
thanks,
commissioner,.
D
Hey
everybody
thanks
for
letting
me
and
allowing
me
to
join
remotely.
I
can't
promise
you
that
I'm
dressed
in
a
suit
and
tie,
but.
A
All
right,
awesome,
okay!
So
what
we're
going
to
need
to
do
tonight
instead
of
just
doing
eyes
and
nays
we're
going
to
have
to
do
a
roll
call
just
so
we
get
make
sure
that
commissioner
becker
is
included
in
this
okay
approval
of
the
minutes.
Any
changes
need
to
be
made.
If
not
look
for
a
motion
to
approve
so
move
got
a
motion
by
commissioner
bankston
second
by
commissioner
smith,
commissioner
velasquez.
A
A
Commissioner,
becker
okay-
and
I
I
approve
as
well
so
with
that
we
have
a
unanimous
vote:
okay,
edward
any
changes
to
the
agenda.
There
are
no
changes.
F
F
I
I
believe
that
we,
the
residents
who
live
here,
have
all
been
more
than
generous
these
many
years
to
put
up
with
the
loss
of
our
golf
course
and
repeated
violations
by
its
owner
repeated
code
violations
by
its
owner.
However,
we
will
not
sit
quietly
with
repeated
proposals
to
turn
the
green
space
into
more
houses.
I
The
owner
of
the
former
golf
course
is
pushing
over
a
line.
The
bucolic
beauty
of
our
community
is
being
threatened
if
housing
development
occurs
on
the
former
golf
course,
our
properties
would
be
devalued
with
more
noise,
more
crowding
potential
drainage
issues
and
traffic.
There's
something
fundamentally
wrong
in
what
is
happening
to
us.
This
is
a
breach
of
a
social
contract.
K
K
K
It
seems
like
it
was
brought
up
when
when
avion
point
was
was
being
developed,
and
it
just
seems
like
ever
since
they've
been
developing,
it's
rise
and
rise
and
rising
it's
taken
over
the
playground.
Kids
can't
even
go
down
there
and
play
anymore
and
all
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood
we're
getting
really
concerned
about
it
and
wonder
if
there's
something
that
can
be
done
to
it.
A
I
know
we've
talked
with
jeff
weatherford.
Let
me
you
know
we
were
having
flooding
issues
across
the
city
and
I
know
that
we
sent
you
the
the
youtube
from
jeff
weatherford's.
I
don't
know
if
you
got
a
chance
to
look.
A
Oh,
he
was
supposed
to
gregory
was
supposed
to
send.
I
thought
everybody
from
the
community
youtube
video
kind
of
outlining
other
areas
of
the
city
that
are
having
flooding
problems.
That
being
said,
I
think
when
we
look
at
your
neighborhood,
I
think
there's
maybe
two
underlying
reasons
and
and
we're
gonna
try
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
them.
One
is
the
the
ribs
which
is
orange
county
for
rapid
infiltration
basin,
they're
off
of
mccormick
and
what's
happened.
Is
there
were
some
contracts
signed
by
the
city
many
moons
ago?
A
That's-
and
this
is
just
you
know,
a
layman's.
You
know
idea
what
might
be
happening.
So
that's
one
issue
we're
now
starting
to
take
some
of
the
orange
county
water.
We
were
supposed
to
be
taking
2
million
gallons
a
day
from
orange
county.
We
were
from
several
months
orange
county
gave
let
us
off
the
hook
and
they've
been
putting
all
that
2
million
gallons
a
day
into
this
into
this
rib,
not
far
from
your
house,
so
that
has
has
absolutely
affected
one
neighborhood
next
to
the
rib.
A
A
Another
agreement
that
was
made
we
this
was
a
decade
or
so
ago,
is
that
we
were
to
take
water
off
of
lake,
the
north
shore
of
lake
apopka
and
put
a
drainage
well.
That
would
take
the
water
from
the
north
shore
and
put
it
all
the
way
down
in
the
aquifer.
C
A
So
one
one
issue
I
think
we
can
solve
in
in
the
I'm
not
saying
in
the
immediate
future
and
that's
you
know:
we're
building
a
a
300
million
gallon
storage
facility
out
on
on
golden
gym
road,
but
the
amount
of
water
that
we're
required
to
take
from
altamonte
springs
from
utilities
inc
and
from
orange
county
is
about
15
million
gallons
a
day.
A
A
If
we
can,
you
know,
I
think,
if
we
can
get
orange
county's
water
to
if
we
can
take
that
on.
I
think
that
will
help
somewhat,
but
we
also
then
need
to
tackle
this.
The
problem
at
the
north
shore,
so
two
problems
one's
a
moderately,
easy
fix
the
other
one
much
more
problematic,
but
but
understand
your
concerns
and
know
that
we're
looking
at
it
as
well
as
some
other
lakes
in
the
area
that
are
that
have
flooded.
K
A
Yeah
so
we're
gonna
we're
gonna.
I
know
we're
we're
working
on
trying
to
take
the
orange
county
water
that
we've
committed
to
and
and
then
we
need
to
look
at
that
north
shore
and
I've
reached
out
to
the
folks
at
st
john's
water
management
and
see
what
we
can
do
to
to
help
alleviate
that
concern
as
well.
A
A
L
Hi,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
I'm
kelly
shirley!
I
live
at
1885
boy
scout
road,
apopka.
Okay.
I
was
just
going
to
make
a
comment
on
the
about
the
the
ordinance
that
you
were
doing
down
here.
The
public
hearing
ordinance
on
changing
from
what
was
it.
F
C
L
Being
office.
A
M
M
M
N
Mr
mayor
commissioners,
my
name
is
donny
williams.
I
preside
at
227
north
central
avenue.
I
am
currently
the
resigning
president
for
the
rotary
club
of
apopka
and
I've
submitted
a
letter
for
the
commissioners
and
the
mayor
to
review
I'll
go
ahead
and
briefly
read
the
letter.
So
that
way
we
can
kind
of
introduce
what
we're
here
for,
after
a
consultation
with
the
city
and
other
legacy
civic
organizations,
the
rotary
club
of
apopka
foundation
has
agreed
to
pursue
a
development
plan
and
partnership
with
the
city
of
apopka.
N
The
purpose
of
this
partnership
is
to
revitalize
and
repurpose
the
property
at
6
or
368
north
park
avenue,
also
known
as
a
conley
house.
The
rotary
club
of
apopka
foundation
has
committed
financial
management
and
labor
resources
to
make
this
vision
a
reality.
The
property
has
been
dormant
for
nearly
two
decades
and
has
the
potential
to
provide
a
significant
value
to
the
community.
N
N
This
property
will
provide
a
resource
for
business
meetings,
family
celebrations,
etc,
while
respecting
the
history
and
community
of
apopka
as
a
community
partner
for
nearly
95
years.
We
understand
the
potential
importance
of
this
project
in
preparation.
We
request
that
the
city
of
apopka
consider
the
following
improvements:
demo
and
debris:
removal,
building
engineering
and
design
services,
parking
lot,
design
and
construction
provide
access
to
city,
water
and
sewer.
We
look
forward
to
working
with
the
city
and
providing
the
value
to
the
community.
F
O
Good
evening,
mayor
and
commissioners
cory
clark,
625
mount
sterling
avenue,
apopka
and
rock
springs
ridge
up
here
for
a
couple
reasons.
First,
I
just
can't
say
thank
you
enough
for
your
help
in
coming
up
with
a
compromise
to
the
sewer
line
that
was
going
in
at
the
hamrick
development
was
going
to
have
a
huge
impact
on
on
our
street
and
property
on
mount
sterling.
O
Just
wanted
to
say,
thank
you
so
much
for
that.
Mr
becker
hope
you're
listening,
because
you're
certainly
a
part
of
that,
and
then
I'm
up
here
as
well,
just
to
just
to
reiterate
what
some
of
our
other
neighbors
have
said
as
well.
We're
just
very
concerned
about
obviously,
what's
being
proposed
for
the
golf
course
to
my
understanding.
Our
from
what
I
understand
our
our
neighborhood
is
already
over
built
for
the
number
of
acreage.
That's
there
to
the
number
of
homes
so
I'll
keep.
It
brief.
P
We
found
that
there
was
a
great
opportunity
to
to
see
some
life
change
in
in
their
lives,
and
we
began
to
do
that,
and
but
we
also
saw
that
a
good
number
of
them
had
no
desire
to
go
beyond
being
helped,
and
so
the
church
moved
towards
trying
to
coordinate
group
effort
of
all
of
our
community,
the
government,
businesses
and
our
churches
and
began
partnering
with
other
churches
working
together
to
try
to
meet
this
need
in
a
way
where
we
could
move
people
from
where
they're
at
to
where
they
should
be
the
ones
that
will
at
least
try
that
and-
and
we
found
that
that
was
very
hard
on
our
location,
because
it's
just
hard
to
partner
when
our
name
is
on
it.
P
And
so
we
applied
for
a
next
step.
Foundation
became
a
foundation
and
we're
a
501c3
now,
and
we
need
a
a
location
to
get
started
that
everybody
can
work
together
in
and
to
meet
the
needs
of
those
that
that
are
here
and
I'm
here
just
to
say
that
I
understand
that
there
may
be
an
opportunity
coming
up
through
the
city
and
we
would
be
honored
and
blessed
to
be
able
to
work
together
with
the
city
in
this
effort
to
get
a
building
to
get
started.
P
A
Thank
you,
pastor,
shoraz
yeah,
we've,
we've
been
meeting
for,
I
think
two
years
now
and
I
think
18
churches
have
been
have
committed.
You
know
to
coming
and
being
a
part
of
it,
so
we've
got
a
a
great
resource
there
that
wants
to
make
a
difference
and,
and
so
as
you'll
see
a
little
later,
you
know
they
would
sure,
like
our
support
and
our
help.
So
I
know
they're
not
they're,
they're
willing
to
roll
up
their
sleeves
and
and
get
dirty
and
help
us.
You
know
make
this
a
reality.
A
So,
thanks
for
leading
the
charge,
pastor,
schwarz
you've
been
a
a
role
model
for
a
lot
of
us.
So
thank
you.
Anybody
else,
susan.
A
Okay,
we'll
go
back
to
presentations
chief
mckinley
everybody
here
that
you
need
to
have
here.
A
F
Q
The
apopka
police
department
would
like
to
present
miss
pollard
with
a
certificate
of
commendation.
I'm
going
to
read
why
we're
going
to
do
that
on
january
2
2021,
while
traveling
on
main
street,
you
observed
a
woman
appearing
to
be
in
distress
with
a
small
child
in
her
arms.
He
turned
around
to
check
on
the
woman
and
found
only
the
child.
The
child
was
now
alone
and
on
the
ground
near
busy
main
street.
Without
hesitation,
you
intervened
and
picked
up
the
child.
Q
Q
Q
Now,
I'd
like
to
ask
captain
jerome
miller
to
join
me.
Well
he's
coming
down
a
few
things
about
captain
miller,
captain
miller
began
his
career
with
the
apopka
police
department
on
september
4th
1996.
Q
Q
Q
R
You
know
when
I
started
here
september
1996.
I
had
no
idea
that
I'll
be
here
at
apopka.
You
know
this
long,
but
you
know
down
through
the
years
I
just
had
a
few
people
encouraging
me
and
saying
you
know
you
need
to
hang
in
there.
You
know
the
city
of
apopka
need
you.
I
said
they
need
me.
They
say
yeah,
they
need
you,
and
you
know
I
had
a
lot
of
help.
You
know
when
I
initially
started
and
one
of
my
training
officers
is
here
today,
robert
hitler
who's.
R
R
You
know
brand
new,
not
knowing
anything
about
a
pop
and
not
from
here,
and
I
just
want
to
tell
him
thank
you,
and
you
know,
along
with
other
co-workers,
that
I
had,
and
you
know,
dating
back
hallway
to
chief
joe
brown,
who
hired
me
and
brought
me
here
at
the
time
I
was
trying
to
process
to
go
to
orange
county
sheriff
office
and
one
of
the
captains
over
at
orange
county
at
the
time
said.
You
know
we
got
a
freeze
on
right
now,
but
I
know
somebody
over
in
the
pocket.
R
R
Woman,
you
know
in
our
household,
you
know
it's
been,
it's
been
a
little
touch
and
go
here
for
the
last
I'd
say
the
last
year,
or
so
my
wife
just
got
off
the
roads,
just
traveled
back
from
alabama.
Today
we
laid
her
father
to
rest
this
past
weekend
up
in
montgomery
alabama.
So
you
know
with
all
I
just
appreciate
all
their
support.
You
know
me
going
to
all
these
different
schools
all
over
the
country
and
different
events.
Working
midnights
evening
shifts-
and
I
just
want
to
let
her
know.
I
appreciate
it.
R
A
What
deputy
chief
miller
forgot
to
tell
everybody,
though,
is
he
was
at
apopka
high
school
when
my
son
was
going
through
the
school
and
kept
him
out
of
trouble
on
a
number
of
numerous
occasions.
So
thank
you.
E
A
G
If
you
for
kind
of
give
a
brief
history,
so
the
public
has
it
as
well:
we've
re
and
we've
I've
met
with
all
of
you
and
we've
been
through
all
of
this.
This
topic
and
we've
briefed
on
this.
I
do
want
to
also
mention
that
we
have
the
duke
team
here
tonight
too
kari
chris
and
todd
have
been
instrumental
in
working
through
this
agreement
and
you've
met
all
of
them
as
well,
but
they're
here
tonight.
G
If
you
have
any
other
questions
as
we
move
through
this
presentation
or
with
this
item
so
back
in
2016
to
about
two
and
a
half
three
years,
the
city
contracted
with
munico
and
our
attorney
cliff
shepard
at
that
time
to
dr
to
go
through
the
code
of
ordinances
and
bring
it
up
to
up
to
par.
If
you
will,
with
state
statutes
minor
language,
changes,
names,
and
things
like
that,
so
we
went
through
that
process.
G
2018
that
was
adopted,
ordinance
2698
was
adopted
and
at
that
time
it
repealed
the
the
cap
on
the
public
service
tax.
So
the
current
public
service
tax,
that
is
it,
is
basically
it
is
charged
on
the
electric
service,
the
me,
the
gas
service
and
the
water
service
today
and
it's
ten
percent
and
it
it
had.
It
has
a
ca.
It
had
a
cap
of
twenty
dollars,
so
the
state
statute
does
not
allow
the
cap.
So
during
those
reviews
of
the
code
of
ordinances,
the
code
was
amended
to
include
to
repeal
the
cap.
G
So
we
with
our
great
friends
at
duke.
We
had
many
conversations-
and
I
say
many
conversations
because
we've
been
working
on
this
item
for
a
while,
and
so
we've
had
several
several
zoom
meetings
to
go
through
this
and
and
come
up
with
disagreement,
and
what
the
agreement
before
you
does
is
duke
has
agreed
in
this
agreement
to
a
settlement
of
about
2.9
million
dollars
for
the
period
january
1
of
2019
through
december
31st
of
2020.
G
That's
the
period
where
the
cap
was
still
in
place,
so
we
were
still.
We
were
still
having
the
20
cap
during
that
period
so,
but
they
have
agreed
in
this
closing
agreement
to
that
2.9
million
dollars.
G
So
with
that
being
said,
the
ordinance
needed
some
work.
So
we've
done
some
work
on
the
ordinance
again
working
with
duke
because
they
are
the
ones
who
collect
and
remit
this
the
public
service
tax
to
us
on
the
electric
side,
so
the
ordinance
needed
a
little
bit
of
work.
So
in
your
item
in
your
packet
tonight
under
ordinance
and
your
public
hearings,
we
will
bring
up
the
ordinance
and
and
talk
about
the
changes
in
the
ordinance.
G
One
of
the
things
that
that
is
important
to
remember
here
is
that's
a
requirement
from
this
from
the
statute
is
we
have
to
give
dor
120
day
notice
of
the
change
before
we
can
make
it
effective?
G
So
if,
if
the
ordinance
tonight
his
first
reading,
it'll
have
to
have
a
second
reading
and
adoption
at
another
meeting
before
it
can
actually
become
effective
and
then
it
would,
it
would
become
effective
on
july
1
of
2021..
G
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
looked
at
with
this
2.9
million
dollar
agreement
or
settlement
is
staff,
has
gone
back
to
the
departments,
gone
back
to
the
last
two
fiscal
years
of
our
budget.
If
you
recall
there
were
some
items
in
our
budget
that
we
weren't
able
to
fund
they
weren't
in
our
cip
plan.
They
were
part
of
our
operating
and
capital
for
the
yearly
budgets
that
we
they're
significant
items
that
our
staff
needed
that
we
weren't
able
to
fund
some
examples.
You'll
see
in
there
are
the
storage.
G
We
talked
about
a
storage
facility
at
the
frank
carlton
center
because
they
needed
more
storage.
Our
staff
didn't
have
enough
storage
and
for
their
stuff
the
part.
This
is
part
of
the
cemetery,
a
lot
of
the
area,
a
lot
of
the
recreation
and
grounds
crew
needed
some
more
storage.
So
that
was
one
of
the
items
there's
some
there
was
a
fire
truck
if
you
recall
that
we
needed
to
replace
so
there's
some
funding
for
that.
G
That
list
that
you
see
in
here
also
as
you've
heard
some
some
discussion
tonight
from
from
some
of
the
community
about
a
resource
center
or
talking
about
you
know
what
can
we
do
to
help
there
there's
a
little
bit
of
funding
in
here
kind
of
on
that
list?
For
that
there's
some
funding
for
you,
you
heard
about
the
conley
house.
We
have
that
property.
What
can
we
do
with
that
property?
There's
some
funding
to
look
at,
maybe
a
design
or
a
study
of
what
could
be
done
with
that
that
parcel
or
that
property.
G
There
are
a
couple
things
in
here
about
ways
to
maybe
pay
off
some
of
our
debt
so
that
we
set
ourselves
up
good
for
the
fiscal
year
budget
coming
up
when
we
get
into
budget
season.
If
there's
a
ability
to
pay
off
some
of
these
debts,
it'll
free
up
some
more
revenues
and
the
current
and
set
us
up
nicely
for
the
20,
the
fy
22
budget.
So
those
are
some
of
the
items.
I
will
say
that
this
list
is
not
all
inclusive.
G
This
list
is
more
than
the
2.9
million
dollars
as
you
can
see,
but
I
wanted
you
to
have
a
list
of
the
items
that
there
are
concerns
and
issues
that
that
we've
been
faced
with
in
our
budgets
and
and
things
that
that
we're
hearing
from
the
community
so
that
you
have
have
that
list.
I
will
say
to
keep
in
mind
you're,
not
approving
that
list
completely
so
doing
this
doesn't
approve
those
expenditures.
G
We
will
come
back
to
you
with
budget
amendments,
so
once
we
get
the
dollars
from
the
if
the
agreement
gets
approved
and
we
get
the
dollars,
then
we'll
come
back
to
you
with
the
amendments
for
these
items.
G
So
with
that
being
said,
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions.
The
representatives
from
duke
are
here
to,
if
you
have
any
questions,
so
we're
asking
for
approval
of
the
closing
agreement
with
duke
energy
and
authorize
the
mayor
to
sign
the
agreement.
Okay,
commissioner
velasquez.
E
No,
we
had,
I
had
spent,
I
think,
almost
40
minutes
with
them,
and
a
lot
of
the
questions
that
I
had
were
were
answered
today.
I
actually
discussed
what
was
on
the
list.
So
if
we
approve
this,
we'll
prove
it
without
that
list.
That's
here
that
you
are
providing
the
significant
budget
items
correct.
S
E
Going
to
be
done
separately
right
and
will
that
be
in
a
workshop
where
we
can
kind
of
go
decide
if
this
is
where
we
want
to
put
that
money.
I.
A
Think
we
can
do
it
individually.
I
mean
each
one
of
those
would
be
a
different.
You
know,
won't
be
a
workshop
collectively.
We
could
take
up
one
every
every
commission
meeting.
We
could
take
up
three
of
them
in
a
commission
meeting.
So
whenever
we
get
to
the
point
where
we
want
to
bring
up
these
issues,
then
we
can
bring
them
up.
G
Whatever
the
wishes,
what
the
wishes
of
the
council
yeah,
whatever
you'd
like
to
do,
we
can
do
a
workshop
if
you'd
like
to
do
that,
I
think
get
that
get
the
agreement
executed
and,
let's
you
know,
get
get
the
dollars
first
and
once
we
get
the
dollars,
then
we
can
figure
out
how
to
appropriate
them.
If
a
workshop
is
what
you
want,
we
can
do
that
we
can.
G
Item
and
bring
it
to
the
council
and
have
discussion
on
each
item.
You
know
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
sit
down
with
each
one
of
you
as
well
and
go
over
maybe
some
of
your
priorities
and
things
that
you
see
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
we,
you
know
kind
of
cover
those
items,
but
but
we
can
bring
them
back
that
way
to
each
meeting.
E
Well,
whichever
way
you
think
is
is
appropriate,
where
it's
not
so
time
consuming,
because
I
feel
like
when
you
you,
when
you
speak
with
each
of
us
and
then
there's
10
items
here,
I
just
thought:
maybe
in
a
workshop
would
allow
at
least
some
discussion
among
us
sure,
so
I
mean,
but
we
that's
something
we
can
discuss
like
you
said
after
we
get
the
money
from
from
duke
so
executing
the
agreement.
You
know
I'm
I
I'm
for
it,
but
I
just
don't.
I
want
to
be
able
to
say
excluding
that
sickness.
A
We
just
had
we
just
want
to
put
a
marker
out
there
for
discussion.
I
mean,
obviously
it's
it's.
The
council's,
you
know
wishes
as
to
what
how
we
want
to
spend
the
money,
but
we
want
to
start
somewhere.
So
this
is
kind
of
absolutely
edward.
My
list
is
just
a
you
know
is
a
starting
point
which
obviously
you
know
it's.
It
takes
the.
Will
this
the
council
to
approve
any
of
these
items.
So,
okay,.
G
Well,
I
think
mayor
and
I'd
like
to
say
one
thing
too:
the
staff
when
we
put
this
list
together,
you
know
mayor
and
I've
worked
on
this
list,
but
staff.
You
know
a
lot
of
its
staff
and
some
of
the
several
things
in
here
you
can,
if
you
recall,
were
part
of
our
budget
process.
Some
needs
that
we
needed
in
our
budget.
We
just
we
didn't,
have
the
funding
at
the
time
to
do
those,
so
this
funding
allows
maybe
to
be
able
to
cover
some
of
those
items.
G
Some
other
needs
that
we've
got
that
we're
hearing
from
the
community
that
you
know
there's
some
dollars
here.
That
can
help
with
that
and
there's
some
things
in
this
list.
Also
that
I
think
it's
important
that
we
think
about
before
we
get
into
budget
process.
We
have
a
chance
here
of
an
opportunity
here
to
free
up
some
dollars
in
20
and
the
fy
when
we
start
to
win
our
workshops
for
the
budget
in
22
to
help
free
up
some
dollars
so
that
we,
you
know,
set
ourselves
up
for
what
who
knows
what
will
happen?
G
You
know
with
the
sales
tax,
we
still
have
sales
tax
reductions
and
who
knows
where
we'll
be,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
also
look
ahead
to
be
so
that
we
can,
if
there's
things
we
can
do
now
with
these
some
of
these
dollars
and
that
it'll
set
us
up
good
for
our
budget
workshops
in
22..
Okay,.
B
G
C
T
Well
doing
the
101,
I
did
ask
for
5
million
instead
of
the
2.9.
T
Well,
I
think
we
are
agreeing
with
subtle
for
the
2.9
million
we're
grateful
for
what
duke
energy
is
doing,
being
a
partner
with
the
city
of
apopka.
So
we
appreciate
that
and
I
I
think
that
if
we
can
possibly
address
in
the
workshop,
however,
I
didn't
like
the
idea
of
bringing
one
at
each
council
meeting.
That
means
we'll
be
here
for
six
months
trying
to
take
care
of
these.
So
if
we
could.
T
D
Yeah,
so
I
had
had
an
opportunity
to
meet
with
duke
previously
this
week,
and-
and
so
I
I
get
where
we're
at
right
is
we
made
that
the
ordinance
changed
back
in
18?
There
was
some
some,
I
guess,
incorrect
settlement
of
those
amounts
of
in
1920
to
give
us
this
2.9
million.
My
my
one
concern
was
that
they
were
using
actual
years
from
that
time
period,
so
that
would
not
sort
of
change
on
the
city
side.
D
I
got
confirmation
from
here
that
that
was
the
case,
so
I
feel
pretty
comfortable
where
we've
gotten
to
on
this
on
this
matter
on
the
second
part
of
that
and
to
the
rest
of
the
council's
remarks
already
would
love
the
workshop,
but
you
know
especially
on
the
resource
center.
The
connelly
building
welcome
signs
the
birding
park
improvements,
the.
C
D
Stuff
is
self-explanatory,
but
maybe
some
direction
from
the
parties,
whether
it's
rotary
or
the
18
churches
that
we
described.
What
generally
is
the
concept,
because
I
don't
really
have
a
good
vision
of
that
yet
so
what
are
we
talking
about
conceptually
before
you
can
get
to
a
workshop
environment?
So
that
would
be
helpful
from
where
I
stand,
because
quite.
A
Don't
really
know
what
it's
all
about
so
great
great
comments.
Commissioner
becker,
we
just
we
had
to
wait
till
we
got.
You
know
through
this,
this
business
item
before
we
can
yeah,
then
we'll
we'll
start
to
put.
You
know
some
meat
on
the
bones
on
the
on
these,
these
10
items
so
yeah.
I
I
agree.
A
It's
a
business
item.
I
think
we've
any
any
other.
J
Closing
comments:
okay,
yes,
ma'am.
U
A
A
A
With
that,
whether
it's
questions
look
for
a
motion
to
approve
the
closing
agreement
with
duke
energy
florida
llc
for
settlement
of
public
service
tax
and
authorize
the
mayor
to
sign
this
agreement.
So
got
a
motion
by
commissioner
smith.
Taken.
F
E
A
F
A
Okay-
and
I
say
aye
so
motion
carries
unanimously
great.
Thank
you
thanks.
Thanks
for
the
duke
team
for
coming
out
tonight,
appreciate
all
your
hard
work
getting
us
to
this
point,
and
we
appreciate
working
with
you,
you
folks,
so
thank
you.
You
can
you
can
leave
that's
right.
We've
got
one
more.
You
got
coming
up
next,
yes,.
L
Hi,
my
name
is
kelly
shirley
and
I
live
in
1885
boy
scout
road.
Of
course.
This
really
doesn't
affect
me
personally,
but.
L
But
anyway,
like
I
said,
this
doesn't
really
affect
me
personally,
but
it
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
me
to
make
a
go
from
commercial
to
residential
or
mixed
use.
I
think
the
last
time
I
was
here
they
were
talking
about
having
a
residential
building
there
in
the
office
area.
There
is
that
correct,
right
yeah,
so
I
mean
to
me:
you
know,
making
our
commercial
areas
hodgepodge
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
me.
If
we
want
to
go
forward
and
make
our
city
you
know
better
and
more
attractive
to
other
people
to
come
here.
L
A
Yeah,
I
think
one
of
the
reasons
is
you
know
the
hospital
is
no
longer
there.
So
it's
not
quite
the
office
commercial
hub
that
it
you
know
it
once
was
you
know
when
we
moved
the
hospital
out
there
and
they
tore
the
old
hospital
down
it.
It
kind
of
changed
the
whole
character
of
that
that
little
area
between
you
know
the
fran
carlton
park
avenue
and
the
they
got
a
couple
of
a
few
office,
doctor's
offices,
but
that's
kind
of
it.
But
jim
you
want
to
add
anything
to
that.
T
L
A
You
know,
I
think,
pre
you
know
moving
the
hospital
out
there.
I
think
you're
absolutely
right,
I
think,
but
when
they
moved
the
hospital,
it
changed
the
whole
dynamics-
and
I
mean
it
was
a
residential
neighborhood
that
whole
area
between
kitland
nelson
park
and
the
old
hospital
was
residential
and
then,
as
you
know,
we
thought
it
was
going
to
grow
there
and
then,
when
they
they
made
the
move
to
you
know
to
the
south.
You
know
west
side
of
of
the
apopka
that
it
just
changed.
You
know,
so
it's
a
little
less
office
commercial.
L
A
L
A
I
can
tell
you
that
the
ushler
group
has
got
under
contract.
All
of
the
advent
property,
which
is
a
I
want
to
say,
is
a
hundred
acres,
jim
somewhere
around
100
acres,
okay
and
they're,
looking
to
redevelop
the
whole
thing,
and
it
will
be
a
very
well
planned
out.
You
know,
walkable,
you
know
residential
commercial
restaurants.
The
whole
kind
of
gambit
will
be
in
that
from
bowtod
up
to
what
would
that
be?
Is
that
not
magnolia
one
street
oak
street
yeah?
A
W
W
Just
real
quick
yeah,
the
property
is
only
50
about
50
feet
wide
and
about
100
feet
deep.
So
in
terms
of
putting
an
office
there,
it
really
isn't
big
enough
to
put
a
good
office
there
and
like
and
like
you
mentioned,
there's
a
parking
lot
on
the
west
side.
It's
a
bright
house
building,
that's
on
the
right
on
the
on
the
east
side
and
it
looks
more
like
a
residential
structure
than
it
does
a
really
like
a
an
office
building
and
then
there's
residential
to
the
south.
So
you're
right,
it's
it's
it!
W
It
could
behoove
itself
to
that
and
if
it
ever
went
back
to
office
at
least
it's
a
building
that
could
get
reused
similar
to
what
what
a
lot
of
single-family
homes
are
doing
in
the
in
some
of
the
downtown
mixed-use
areas.
Okay,.
E
I
do
remember-
and
I
I
did
it
was
actually
something
I
had
discussed
today
with
ed
bastis
before
the
meeting,
because
I
remember
commissioner
becker
was
concerned
that,
in
the
middle
of
a
mixed
district
unit,
we're
trying
to
kind
of
promote
and
build
for
part
of
our
city
downtown
center,
that
we
would
have
this
sole
residence
sitting
in
the
middle
of
this
mixed-use
district.
E
And
it
just
is,
you
know
even
the
gentleman
that
mr
shelley
is
saying.
It's
kind
of
it's
like
something
so
odd
in
the
middle
of
a
district
that
you're
trying
to
build
businesses
in
to
have
a
sole
residence.
There.
W
That
particular
block,
though
three
quarters
of
it,
is
already
residential.
So
if
anything,
this
is
bringing
it
back
into
that
residential.
We
do
have
it
all
that
downtown
area
is
all
mixed
use
downtown
anyway.
So
what
this
is
allowing
that
to
do
is
to
become
a
residential
structure.
It
doesn't
really
that
particular
block.
It
doesn't
look
too.
It
won't.
Look
that
odd.
Okay,
if
it
was
a
couple
blocks
over
and
on
park,
avenue
yeah.
E
So
does
I
don't
know
who
carpenter
companies
is,
but
do
they
understand
that
once
that
becomes
developed,
that
they're
going
to
be
in
a
mixed
district.
E
E
W
D
And
I
totally
get
that
there's
already
a
residential
there.
You
know
at
some
point
you
know
at
some
point
in
the
line.
You
know
that
those
whole
four
blocks
there.
D
And
I
think
the
concern
about
the
residential
is
just
more.
You
know
almost
to
like
what
commissioner
velasquez
was
saying.
You're
gonna
have
a
residential
plot
between
two
non-residential
uses
right
now
on
that
particular
subject:
property.
But
the
gentle
point
as
well.
It's
a
fairly
small
piece
of
property.
I
would
just
you
know,
try
to
understand.
Are
you
all
going
to
try
and
approach
other
people
in
that
area
to
change
the
future
language
on
their
properties
or
just
be
reactive,
knowing
that
it's
a
future
or
a.
W
Multi-Use
or
mixed-use
zoning
classification
well,
the
the
existing
uses
can
stay,
as
is
with
the
land,
use
and
zoning,
as
is
so
if
they,
if
they
did,
want
to
come
back
in
and
and
change
their
their
land
use
too
to
a
mixed
use.
They
could
but
there's
really
no
need
to,
since
they
already
have
a
pre-existing
use.
D
D
S
H
Ordinance
number
2812
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida
to
extend
its
territorial
and
municipal
limits
to
annex
pursuant
to
section
171.044.
Florida
statutes.
The
here
and
after
described,
land
situated
and
being
in
orange
county
florida
owned
by
apopka
central
line
development
located
north
of
boy
scout,
road
and
east
of
south
benion
road
providing
for
directions
to
the
city,
clerk,
severability
conflicts
and
an
effective
date.
L
Matter:
okay,
hi
again,
this
is,
I
live
at
1885
boy
scout
road
and
my
name
is
kelly
shirley
this.
This
property
here
is
adjacent
to
my
easement,
and
so
I'm
just
here.
C
L
Figure
out
exactly
what's
going
on
with
it,
I
didn't
really
find
out
more
information,
and
so
that
that's
on
me
basically,
but
but
I
would
like
to
find
out
more
information
about,
what's
going
to
be
happening
in
the
bigger
picture
of
what's
going
on.
F
W
Yeah,
just
real
quick.
Obviously
this
is
just
the
annexation.
It's
the
first
step
in
the
development
process
with
the
bronson
property
right
now
that
northern
portion
will
be
residential
south
of
boy
scout
road,
it's
going
to
be
a
mixed
use
product.
This
will
probably
be
single
family
and
possibly
some
town
homes.
They
are,
they
really
aren't
sure.
Yet
we
don't
have
any
drawings
or
anything
like
that
for
that
northern
portion.
Yet
the
next
step
would
be
the
land
use
for
this
piece
of
property.
J
E
Use
pesticides:
am
I
correct
in
saying
that
pesticides
no
stormwater,
so
he
was
concerned
with
how
we
were
going
to
develop
the
property
we're
annexing
and
how
are
we
going
to
help
protect
his
property.
W
Well
again,
it's
a
it's
a
normal
process.
We
go
through
environmental
checks
and
all
and
and
also
habitat
surveys
with
with
any
gopher
tourist
sand,
skinks
anything
like
that
for
a
normal
development,
the
easement
they
do
have
to
provide
an
access
back
to
his
property,
so
that
would
probably
be
one
of
the
road
systems
going
back
there
that
we'll
we'll
we'll
definitely
keep
himself.
T
Okay,
so
so
this
piece
of
property
is
the
piece
that's
covered
with
pine
trees,.
T
F
T
A
E
B
A
V
Michael
good
evening,
members
of
the
council,
the
ordinance
before
you
tonight,
is
basically
a
housekeeping
matter
back
in
december
council
passed
by
resolution,
new
fees
for
public
records
copies
as
well
as
the
time
that
is
undertaken
by
a
staff
to
conduct
the
public
records
request.
What
this
ordinance
does.
V
It
goes
back
into
the
code,
the
code
actually
years
ago,
codified
amounts
for
copies
amounts
for
services
in
order
to
streamline
the
process
to
make
things
more
efficient,
it's
more
efficient
for
you
to
be
able
to
to
pass
fees
by
resolution
still
done
at
public
hearing
is
still
publicly
noticed,
but
it
no
longer
requires
you
to
go
through
the
entire
codification
process
for
fees
which
can
change
based
on
the
figurities
of
basically
every
day.
So
what
this
does?
V
D
Clarifying
question:
I
get
what
you
said
so
basically
the
resolution
language
that
we're
changing
just
basically
says
we
have
the
ability
to
do
so,
and
then
those
actual
fees
and
fee
schedules
that
just
publicly
noted
somewhere
in
city
hall,
are
readily
available
for
the
general.
V
No,
they
can
request
a
week.
They
can
either
request
the
resolution
or
once
the
fee
is
given
to
them,
that
we
address
them.
That
and
they're
notified
that
there
there
are
going
to
be
reasonable
fees.
The
city
has
always
had
the
authority
to
do
so.
It's
been
in
the
code.
What
we're
changing
now
is
the
actual
amount
of
the
fees
is
is
done
by
resolution.
A
resolution
could
be
readily
available
to
the
public.
V
V
E
E
Right,
instead
of
sending
everyone
to
a
telephone
to
call
someone,
it
would
be
easier
to
kind
of
refer
to
them
in
the
website.
Okay,.
J
M
Just
as
a
citizen
listening
to
the
discussion
over
this
access
to
public
records,
I
am
confronted
with
ambiguity.
I
I
I
don't
have
a
clear
view
of
the
purpose
of
this
change
this
ordinance.
So
I
would
ask
for
basic
clarification.
M
M
So
I
know
having
come
to
attended
many
city
commission
meetings
over
time
intermittently.
I've
heard
public
officials
here
say
we're
all
about
transparency,
which
makes
perfect
sense,
and
for
that
you're
to
be
applauded.
So
for
me,
then,
to
make
this
simple
and
get
to
the
knob
of
the
issue.
Is
this
intended
to
facilitate
I'm
repeating
myself?
Is
it
intended
to
facilitate
access
to
public
records,
or
does
this
make
it
potentially
more
difficult?
M
V
The
amendment
to
the
ordinance
doesn't
change
the
process
and
procedures
that
have
been
undertaken
by
this
city
for
years.
All
it
merely
does,
is
it
just
changes
the
location
of
the
fees
right
there,
instead
of
it
being
codified
in
unicode,
the
fees
can
be
adopted
by
resolution
resolution
can
be
amended
if
the
cost
of
doing
business
increases
or
decreases,
and
there
is
a
ease
and
efficiency
in
being
able
to
amend
a
resolution,
as
opposed
to
going
through
the
process
of
amending
the
code
and
getting
the
amendments
codified.
V
E
So
the
one
question
that
I
do
have
and
I
understand
what
mr
hoffman
is
saying-
I'm
asking
for
a
public
record.
Now
you
tell
me
it's
ten
dollars
to
get
whatever
records
I
may
want.
I
can't
afford
ten
dollars.
V
V
So
if
someone
makes
makes
a
public
record
request,
which
will
incur
let's
say
just
for
hypothetical
purposes-
you're
going
to
get
50
pages
of
documents,
you're
going
to
get
charged
for
50
pages
for
having
to
have
those
printed
and
submitted
to
you.
If
you
then
come
and
say,
look,
I
can't
pay
for
50
pages,
there's
nothing!
That's
prohibiting
a
person
from
coming
into
city
hall
and
reviewing
and
inspecting
the
public
records.
The
cost
is
for
getting
copies.
V
So
you
can
take
those
public
records
home
with
you,
okay,
so
you're
not
we're
not
charging
you
to
come
to
city
hall
to
review
public
records.
However,
if
it's
an
honoris
request
that
requires
a
staff
member
to
be
present
so
that
someone
doesn't
go
and
take
public
records
without
any
authorization,
usually
on
certain
inspections,
a
staff
member
is
there.
We
may
take
into
consideration
that
staff
member's
time
for
having
to
sit
and
sit
in
and
basically
supervise
the
inspection.
V
But
if
someone
says
I
want
to
review
a
certain
document,
they
can
come
in.
They
can
review
the
document
and
therefore
they
have
access.
They
have
exercised
their
right
to
to
inspect
the
public
records
if
they
want
copies
of
it.
To
take
home
you're
going
to
you
we're
able
to
charge
for
those
copies.
If
it's
something
as
simple
as
a
few
documents
that
could
be
submitted
by
email,
scanned.
U
V
Are
cases
where,
if
the
charges
are
so
minimal,
you
will
receive
scanned
documents
if
they're
readily
electronically
transmittable
to
the
person
requesting
it?
Then,
therefore,
there
is
no
charge
for
a
physical
copy
of
a
document
if
it
can
be
transmitted
electronically
to
somebody.
E
V
They're
made
aware,
however,
if
the
documents
can
be
sent
electronically,
but
it
takes
a
significant
amount
of
time
for
a
staff
member
to
retrieve
the
documents
in
the
case
of
a
request
for
all
emails
from
a
certain
staff
member
from
this
date
to
this
date.
V
Now,
when
you're
looking
at
a
certain
amount
of
time,
there's
a
threshold
established
by
the
statute,
which,
once
that
threshold
is
crossed,
the
local
government
can
charge
for
the
time
that
staff
incurs.
In
order
to
respond
to
the
request
you,
the
person
will
be
charged
for
the
time,
but
if
the
documents
can
be
electronic
transfer
you're
not
going
to
be
charged
a
per
page
cost
for
the
copies
okay,
so
it
really
goes.
It
really
is
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
Okay,.
C
A
F
A
Okay,
anybody
else
from
the
public.
We
should
speak
on
this
matter,
if
not
we'll
close
a
public
hearing
and
look
for
a
motion
to
approve
ordinance
number
2813
at
first
reading
and
hold
over
for
a
second
reading
and
adoption.
So
got
a
motion
by
commissioner
bankston
second
by
commissioner
smith.
Is
the
roll
call
vote,
commissioner
velasquez.
E
First,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
the
explanation
and
velasquez
votes.
Aye.
G
So
commissioners,
ordinance
2814
earlier
under
the
business
item
we
talked
about
the
agreement.
We
have.
We,
you
guys
approved
the
agreement
for
the
public
service
tax
portion.
That's
coming
from
the
agreement.
That's
coming
from,
duke
and
in
that
item
this
item
it
was
clarified
that
this
item
would
be
brought
forward.
So.
C
G
G
It
is
calculated
at
10
percent
on
electric
gas
and
water
10
of
the
metered
service
and
currently
currently
we're
collecting
with
a
20
cap
on
those
services.
This
ordinance,
as
you
know,
the
ordinance
in
20
in
december
of
2018
that
we
talked
about
earlier
repealed
that
cat
said
the
florida
statute
said
that
we
cannot.
You
cannot
cap
the
tax,
so
this
ordinance
cleans
that
up
and
clarifies
that
and
provides
the
change
for
how
the
public
service
tax
will
be
calculated.
G
The
significant
items
in
what
this
ordinance
does,
so
the
ordinance
will
amend
for
electric
service
only
what
it
does
is
it
taxes,
10
percent
up
to
5,
000
kilowatt
hours
and
then
any
kilowatt
hours
after
that,
5001
and
above
it
will
actually
be
calculated
using
four
percent.
G
So
ten
percent
up
to
five
thousand
four
percent
after
five
thousand
and
one
on
the
electric
side
of
the
service,
the
gas
and
the
water
will
be
10
percent
flat
across
the
board
for
the
metered
services
in
that
area.
G
One
of
the
reasons
that
we
looked
at
the
again
with
our
partners
from
duke
we
sat
down-
and
we
talked
had
many
meetings
and
talked
about
what
can
you
know?
How
can
we,
what
can
we
do?
How
can
we
look
at
this
tier
structure
and
and
come
up
with
with
some
if
you
will
a
little
bit
of
a
relief
kind
of
for
our
big
large
commercial
or
large
customers,
large
industrial
customers
and
one
of
the
things
since
we
can't
cap
the
statute?
Won't
let
us
cap,
we
decided,
we
would
put
in
a.
G
We
looked
at
the
look
at
all
different
types
of
scenarios,
and-
and
we
can
give
you
that
information-
if
you
need
it
as
well
tonight,
but
we
decided
that
four
percent
four
percent
was
is
what
actually
provided
seemed
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
a
relief
for
those
large
customers
and,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
most
of
the
most
all
of
the
jurisdictions.
G
G
The
hardest
very
few
of
the
residential
will
be
hit.
We've
the
average
bill
of
about
300.
You
won't
see
much,
you
won't
see
any
change
if
you
have
an
average
bill
of
300
electric
bill
each
month.
You
won't
see
much
change
at
all,
so
it's
mainly
going
to
be
the
larger
commercial
and
industrial
that
will
will
be
affected,
the
biggest
impact
from
removing
the
cab.
G
G
So
we've
this.
The
ordinance
does
remove
the
the
public
service
tax
from
agricultural
businesses
for
gas.
G
So
we
went
through
everything
and
got
all
of
our
numbers
and
we've
met
with
all
of
you.
I've
met
with
all
of
you
and
we
went
over.
You
know
the
revenues
that
the
additional
revenues
that
this
will
generate
and
it
generates
approximately
a
little
more
than
a
million
dollars
in
additional
revenue
going
forward
by
removing
the
cab.
G
So,
and
and
again,
if
you
recall,
I
said
that
it
takes
120
days.
We
have
to
notify
dor
of
100
for
120
day
notice
before
we
can
put
it
into
effect.
G
So
if
the,
if
you,
if
we
adop,
if
you
adopt
the
ordinance
at
the
next
meeting
at
the
second
reading
and
adoption,
it
won't
take
effect
until
july,
1.,
so
there'll
be
three
months
within
this
current
fiscal
year
that
it
will
have
that
it
will
go
into
effect,
but
it
will
generate
overall
an
additional,
almost
additional
one,
a
little
more
than
than
one
million
dollars
for
the
fiscal
year.
22..
G
With
that
being
said
in
your
agenda
item,
so
we've
talked
about.
If
you
know
this
is
going
to
be
an
additional
revenue.
That's
coming
in
from
for
for
our
budget
purposes
that
I
wanted
to
staff,
you
know
we
can.
G
We
can't
commit
to
any
other
any
reductions
because
we're
going
into
we're
just
getting
ready
to
go
into
the
budget
workshops,
but
this
might
give
us
an
opportunity
where,
when
we
get
to
budget
workshop
time,
knowing
we've
got
additional
revenue
here
that
we
may
be
able
to
look
at
some
of
our
other
revenue
sources
and
one
being
the
property
tax
rate
to
see.
If
maybe
we
can
provide
some
a
little
bit
of
relief
there
because
of
this.
This
increase
for
in
this
revenue.
Again,
it's
nothing.
G
We
can't
we
can't
commit
tonight
and
say
that
that's
where
we're
going,
but
at
least
we
have
that
that's
one
of
the
things
I
think
we
can
need
to
be
thinking
about,
and
then
it
also
may
help
with
our
merit
program
for
our
employees
to
help
maybe
re-establish
our
our
merit
program
for
our
employees.
Recognition
of
our
employees,
but
so
those
are
items
that
just
to
keep
in
mind
that
as
we
move
through
the
budget
process.
G
So
the
other
thing
I
do
want
to
say
that
I
think
is
important
for
the
public
is
that
duke
is
going
to
duke
energy
is
going
to
do
mail
outs
to
our
customers,
so
they're
going
to
send
notices,
they're
going
to
have
customer
service
phone
lines
set
up
so
that
our
customers
can
call
in.
If
they
have
questions
concerns,
they
can
get
explanations,
they
can
get
assistance
and
also
here
at
the
city.
G
We
will
of
course
be
open
so
that
we
can
answer
any
calls
that
any
of
our
citizens
have
as
well
if
we
need
to
explain
anything
to
them,
but
since
duke
collects
it
and
remits
it
to
us
they're
going
to
follow
up
with
the
customer
service,
and
we
really
appreciate
all
of
their
efforts
with
that.
I
do
want
to
say
another
thing.
G
I'd
like
to
say
is,
I
know
those
big
customers
are
getting
hit
the
hardest
and
todd
with
duke
those
are
a
lot
of
his
customers,
so
he
will
be
reaching
out
to
them
and
meeting
with
them
one-on-one
to
go
over
the
process
and
everything
so
that
they
have
all
the
information
and
and
share
everything
that
we've
had
and
share
our
little
incentive
of
how
we're
trying
to
trying
to
be
a
good
good
partners
and
with
our
larger
customers
and
our
larger
businesses.
G
So
that
being
said,
this
is
first
reading,
so
we're
asking
for
you
to
approve
first
reading
and
hold
it
over
for
a
second
reading
and
adoption
at
our
next
meeting.
I'm
here
to
answer
any
other
questions
that
you
may
have.
I
know
we
met,
so
I
hope
that
you
know
we
were
able
to
go
over
everything
and
then
duke
is
here
also,
if
you
have
any
questions
from
them,.
E
Again,
I
had
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
them
and-
and
I
was
satisfied
with
all
the
questions
that
I
had
and
and
I
appreciate
that
there
were
that
that
they
are
taking
on
the
role
of
at
least
seeing
the
big
commercial
customers
that
we
have
in
apopka.
I
really
appreciate
that
so.
B
Yeah
just
a
couple
questions:
what
is
the
average
residential
usage?
Do
we
have
those
numbers
because
I
didn't
find
them
in
my
papers.
X
Todd
killmeyer,
duke
energy,
the
average
residential
bill
in
the
city
of
apopka
is
approximately
1
240
kilowatt
hours
a
month
which
would
translate
into
today's
rates
of
185
dollars
and
two
cents,
and
the
tax
that
we
are
discussing
for
a
build
of
that
size
would
be
approximately
14
and
22
cents.
B
And
basically,
at
that
point,
if.
B
B
Okay,
okay,
so
it's
it's
mainly
those
50
too,
that
it
will
affect
somewhat
at
that
point
again,
I
I
agree,
I
think,
for
our
businesses
they're,
the
ones
that
are
really
going
to
feel
that
and
and
being
the
only
municipality.
S
B
S
B
Okay,
yes,
sir,
all
right,
my
only
main
concern-
and
it's
not
with
duke,
is-
is
again
the
water
bills
they're,
that's
probably
the
biggest
concern
that
I
get
and
complaint
from
citizens
that,
if
there's
an
increase
in
that
it's
just
you
know.
A
B
G
Commissioner,
we
did
go
through
kind
of
look
at
some
of
those
numbers.
It's
tough,
but
we
went
through
and
looked
at
those
numbers
and
most
of
the
people
that
will
be
hit
with
the
tax.
Again,
it's
it's
just
like
with
the
electric
side,
it's
those
large
commercial,
those
large
water
users
that
will
be
hit
with
that
that
charge
so
most
of
our
residential
customers.
Very
few
of
them
will
be
hit
with
this.
T
Well,
during
my
meeting
I
I
was
able
to
ask
all
the
questions
and
receive
the
answers
that
I
needed
and
my
only
concern
was
with
our
agricultural
industries
and
they
told
me
about
the
gas
tax
was
being
exempt
and
so
therefore,
it's
kind
of
like
a
watch
watch.
So
I'm
satisfied
good.
D
Yeah,
what
I
do
want
to
clarify
is
you
know
the
idea
that
we're
not
removing
the
capital
disorders,
the
capital
removed
in
2018.
It's
just
that
we
weren't
the
dollars
weren't
exchanging
hands
properly,
hence
the
2.9
million
agreement
that
we
discussed
at
the
front
part
of
this
meeting.
So
I
want
to
key
in
on
that
topic
right.
So
obviously
it
sounds
like
duke:
has
their
processes
in
place
to
track
it
properly
on
a
go
forward
basis?
D
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
on
a
staff
level,
you
know,
since
we
do
have
a
little
bit
of
nuance
to
our
structure.
We're
not
doing
a
flat
10
across,
like
other
municipalities,
are
we're
doing
the
four
percent
structure
for
large
business
consumers.
Do
we
have
people
set
up
on
the
staff
level
to
reconcile
to
make
sure
that.
A
D
F
Right,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that.
D
We're
doing
our
due
diligence
on
our
side
so
that
way
it
doesn't
get
sideways.
You
know
we're
two
years
from
now
and
we
realized.
Y
Chris
teedig,
with
duke
energy
205
echo
holloway
veto
book.
Mr
becker,
yes,
you've
got
audit
rights,
so
you
can
just
contact
us
through
our
tax
department.
Other
other
municipalities
do
that
and
that's
a
way
to
just
double
check
that
the
taxes
we're
collecting
are
the
taxes
we
should
be
collecting
within
the
city.
So
it's
a
it's
a
normal
process.
Y
P
J
L
It
was
answered
or
not.
My
name
is
kelly.
Shirley
1885
boy
scout
road.
The
question
I
have
is
that
are
other
municipalities
and
are
we
in
more
competition
with
them?
Wouldn't
we
do
the
four
percent.
A
J
A
Commissioner
becker
aye,
commission,
mayor
nelson,
I
all
support
so
motion
carries
unanimously.
A
Thank
you
duke
appreciate
your
help.
Ordinance
number
2815.,
okay,.
V
V
All
right,
commissioners,
this
again,
I
almost
reviewed
myself
from
last
time
was
up
here,
but
this
is
another
housekeeping
type
ordinance,
namely
the
fees
that
are
established
for
these
utilities
for
water
for
for
its
waste
water.
All
of
these
are
in
the
code
they're
enumerated
they're
all
listed.
V
V
V
We
are
moving
the
current
fees
in
the
code
to
a
resolution
resolution
schedule
that
is
in
a
resolution
and
then
adding
the
new
distributed
wastewater
systems
and
those
fees
for
those
hookups
working
with
public
works
to
establish
what
those
fees
would
be
for
that
system.
V
So
that's.
The
purpose
of
this
ordinance
is
another
housekeeping
ordinance.
This
also,
then,
brings
us
in
line
and
brings
us
consistent
with
other
municipalities
and
local
governments
that
establish
these
fees
by
schedules
that
are
adopted
by
resolution
rather
than
us
having
them
fully
codified
in
the
code.
E
You
know
what
I'm
gonna
have
to
see
him
privately
and
he'll
have
to
explain
that
again,
but
the
the
cusp
of
it
is
that
it
doesn't
change
the
fees
it
just
allows
from
understanding.
It
correctly
allows
us
to
make
the
changes
through
resolutions
correct.
V
Now
those
those
schedules,
because
what
the
resolution
does
the
resolution
adopts
the
schedules,
so
each
of
these
each
of
these
uses
will
have
a
schedule
so,
as
is
proposed
in
the
ordinance
there's
a
schedule
for
the
water
use,
charges
and
deposits,
a
schedule
for
wastewater
use,
charges
and
deposits
scheduled
for
the
distributed
wastewater
treatment,
system,
use
charges
and
deposits
and
a
schedule
for
the
reclaimed
water
rates.
V
Those
schedules
can
be
placed
on
our
website
and
everyone
will
have
those
fees
readily
available
for
them
to
click
on
the
website
and
there's
our
there's
the
schedule
for
these
services.
Okay.
So
then,
if
there
is
a
change
or
change
is
needed
to
either
increase
a
rate
because
circumstances
call
for
an
increase
that
is
presented
to
you
at
a
at
a
public
hearing
and
adopted
by
resolution,
rather
than
by
ordinance,
which
require
the
two
readings
and
then
codification
and
then
it'll
be
codified.
So
you.
E
D
One
for
this
particular
item
do
those
schedules
just
fly
with
what's
currently
in
there
in
terms
of
the
schedule,
because.
D
We
had
passed
a
resolution
previously
studying
new
financials.
Did
we
do
the
same
thing.
V
V
D
If
my
second
bit
would
just
be,
you
know
the
website's
nice
do
we
have
the.
D
When
people
are
in
unicode
so
that
they
don't
have
to
go
to
a
separate
website,
I.e
our
website,
is
it
possible
to
upload
the
fee
schedules
in
unicode
as
well?
I
know
we're
bypassing
the
codification
process
and
it's
more
efficient,
but
the
resolution
itself
so
that
our
fee
schedules
are
there
that
way.
If
someone's
reading
our
ordinance,
they
don't
have
to
go.
Okay,
I've
got
to
go
to
apopka
city
website
to
look
at
the
feed
schedule.
F
E
V
D
E
I
want
you
to
know,
I
did
warn
about
you,
but
maybe
within
our
website
just
a
little
reference
of
where
it
is
in
the
money
code
and
it's.
V
V
F
V
It's
several
pages
to
try
to
find
what
actually
is
the
fee,
because
service
charges
are
on
one
page
in
one
section:
hookup
fees
are
actually
another
section
of
the
code.
It's
actually
spread
out
in
different
sections.
That's
why
the
wording
and
language
is
so
common,
whereas
the
schedule
puts
it
in
one
spot.
Here
are
all
the
water
fees
here,
the
connection
charges
the
hookup
charges
your
rates,
it's
all
in
one,
so
it
really
makes
it
much
more
efficient
and
clearer
for
the
public
to
be
able
to
go
to
one
spot
right
on
our
website.
A
J
A
E
I'm
first
okay.
Okay.
First
of
all
I
wanted
just
to
congratulate
here.
I
am
because
I
did
put
this
down
the
firefighters
who
were
voted
the
firefighter
of
the
year
paramedic
eric
barros,
barrios
and
lieutenant
matthew
gargon
for
firefighter
of
the
year.
E
What
else
did
I
have?
Oh,
I
attended
the
saturday
sounds.
It
was
a
very
cold
night,
but
it
was
a
great
concert.
I
really
enjoyed
that.
I
hope
that
more
of
our
residents,
you
know,
try
and
make
it
out.
I
know
it's
been
kind
of
cold
on
saturday
nights,
but
they've
been
really
good
music
out
there
good
artists,
and
I
just
want
to
keep
promoting
that,
and
what
else
did
I
have
here?
Oh
god,
I
did
put
some
things
down.
B
E
B
Well,
I
was
going
to
congratulate
deputy
chief
miller,
but
I'll
save
that
for
another
commissioner
who
has
kept.
B
But
yeah,
that's
that's
really
awesome
long
time
coming,
the
trees
did
get
trimmed.
Yes,.
A
A
B
Couple
of
things
that
I
have
here
amber
payne,
I
think
we've
all
heard
from
her.
She
mentioned
when
I
spoke
with
her,
that
all
the
commissioners
had
responded
to
her
and
her
concerns
again.
Another
gunshot
issue
and
she's
already
worked
with
captain
kennedy
yeah
and
is
looking
at
starting
a
community
policing
group
there.
B
It
just
sounds
like
some
real
positive
there,
so
I
think
that's
moving
forward
and
anyway,
just
wanted
to
mention
that
for
her,
john
kloran
has
some
long-term
drainage
issues
on
hustler,
and
he
had
talked
with
me
several
months
ago
mentioned
that
and-
and
I
got
an
email
from
him,
there's
issues
gone
back
and
forth.
Is
it
county?
Is
it
city
of
those
different
things,
but
somehow
we
need
to
resolve
this
he's
a
very
good
man
and
you
know,
has
has
kind
of
gone
back
and
forth.
He's
done
some
homework.
B
I've
got
some
information
tonight.
So
do
I
just
get
that
to
you,
edward
okay,
I'll
chat
with
you
on
that
other
than
that
leadership.
Apopka
is
something
that
the
chamber
of
commerce
has
put
together
as
part
of
the
inaugural
class
back
in
the
early
2000s.
B
It
is
a
great
program
and
they
extended
their
enrollment
dates,
so
people
that
are
in
business.
This
is
something
where
they'll
go
with
different
industries,
including
the
city
and
just
gives
a
lot
of
information.
It
looks
great
on
a
resume
to
be
part
of
one
of
those
classes,
so
if
there
are
any
citizens
that
are
watching-
or
here
that
would
be
interested
in
that
contact
joni
at
the
chamber
of
commerce
by
this
friday,
cool
awesome,
commissioner
smith,.
T
Thank
you
mayor.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
say
congratulations
to
deputy
chief
miller
for
his
promotion
and
thanks
to
the
mayor
and
chief
and
to
mr
bass
for
listening,
and
I
guess
I
can
take
that
off
my
agenda
now,
but
we
still
want
to
say
congratulations.
He
has
worked
very
hard
and
proven
himself
to
be
in
that
position
and
so
we're
glad
to
see
him
there.
T
I
want
to
say
thanks
to
the
fire
department
and
our
apocalypse
police
department,
we
had
an
mk
parade
on
sat
on
monday
and
there
was
an
outstanding
performance
and
presence
of
both
the
fire
department
and
our
police
department
and
the
citizens
really
appreciated
that
they
had
a
very
good
sense
of
safety
with
their
presence
being
there,
and
so
we
want
to
thank
them
for
for
their
performance
and
their
participation
in
the
parade.
T
I
want
to
thank
the
mayor
and
the
city
councilman
and
woman
that
participated
in
in
the
parade
on
monday,
and
it
was
a
success
and,
just
as
it
was
with
the
christian
parade,
people
were
looking
for
somewhere
to
go
to.
A
D
Hey
yeah,
I'd
like
to
echo
commissioner
smith.
Congratulations
and
the
rest
of
the
council
for
deputy
chief
miller
well
deserved
and
can't
wait
to
to
tell
that
to
him
in
person
really
excited
for
him,
but.
D
Accommodation
of
me
for
this
meeting.
I've
got
a
bit
of
cavern
fever
already,
and
I'm
only
six
days
into
I
this
make
it
through
the
next
four.
I
can
really
empathize
with
people
that
are
going
through
the
same
thing,
so
everybody
stays
safe
out
there.
I'm
excited
too,
because
you
know
what
this
tells
me
is.
The
police
department
is
in
good
shape,
we're
about
to
talk
about
a
finance
director,
so
that
tells
me
that
the
finance
area
is
in
good
shape,
and
so
I
guess
naturally
speaking
the
next
on
the
radar
is
our
hr.
G
Great
news-
I
think
here
so
it
was
kind
of
kind
of
quick,
but
this
is
a
good
thing,
so
each
one
of
you,
I
have
already
met
our
candidate
for
finance
director,
so
we're
asking
for
your
approval
for
appointment
tonight.
Her
name
is
vladimir
ortiga
ortega,
ortega,
I'm
going
to
get
that
right.
G
I
got
to
get
that
right,
so
so
you've
all
had
a
chance
to
meet
with
her
one
on
one
go
over
her
credentials,
her
resume
and
everything
you
have
that
in
your
packet,
I'm
excited
I've
got
to
meet
with,
have
been
able
to
meet
with
her.
It's
been
an
interesting
process.
We
had
a
lot
of
the
interview.
Was
the
interview
was
done
over
the
zoom,
so
it's
kind
of
an
interesting
world
we
live
in
today,
where
you
do
the
zoom
and
then
you
meet
someone
later
and
so
I'll
leave.
G
Some
she's
probably
had
some
information
she'd
like
to
share
with
you
and
and
everything,
but
I'm
excited
tonight
tonight
to
to
bring
her
forth
for
appointment.
She
has
a
lot
of
experience.
She
has
five
years
with
osceola
county
clerk
of
the
court
or
the
clerk's
office.
So
she's
really,
I
think
she's
she's
very
bubbly
great
personality.
I
think
she
will
fit
very
well
with
our
apopka
team,
so
I'll
let
her
and.
G
That's
an
interesting
story
too.
Here
in
apopka
we've
been
trying
to
get
to
the
way
that
our
payroll
system
works.
We've
been
trying
to
start
people
on
on
the
first
of
the
pay
period,
it's
easier.
If
we
can
start
you,
you
know
on
monday,
so
that
your
first
the
pay
period,
because
our
our
system-
it's
just
it's
all
this
proration
and
everything
you
got
to
do,
and
it
just
can
be
a
headache.
G
But
I
asked
I'm
glad
I'm
here
yesterday.
I
said:
when
do
you
want
to
start
and
she
says
well,
I
can
start
now
and
I
said
so
like
if
they
ratify
you
on
wednesday,
will
you
be
ready
on
thursday
and
she's
like
yep?
I
come
on
thursday,
so
we're
gonna
have
to
do
a
little
proration
and
figure
all
this
out,
but.
Z
Good
evening,
mayor
and
commissioners,
my
name
is
vladimir
ortega
and
I'm
a
resident
of
claremont
lake
county
I've
been
doing
accounting
for
over
25
years.
So
don't
let
the
face
you
know
lie
to
you.
I
am
old
and
I
work
for
different
industries.
I
work
for
timeshare
industries.
I
work
for
non-profit
school
my
younger
years
and
most
recently
I
worked
five
and
a
half
years
during
armando
ramirez
clerk
of
the
court
and
most
recently
actually
the
past
year
was
nominated.
C
Z
E
We
we
all
had
the
pleasure
of
meeting
her
one-on-one
and
I
was
super
impressed.
You
know,
I
know
a
lot
about
osceola
county
because
I
do
know
some
of
the
people
there
and
she's
very
data
driven
which
is
good
she's,
going
to
meet
her
match
with
commissioner
becker.
Z
S
B
I
echo
those
sentiments
I
enjoyed
the
varied
background
that
you
have
that
you're,
not
just
a
number
cruncher,
but
you
really
do
bring
in
just
different
aspects
to
what
you
do
so
just
a
well-rounded
professionalism
and
and
I'll
bet.
Commissioner
velasquez
pronounced
your
name
correctly.
T
So
we
welcome
you
here
and
I
understand
you're
going
to
be
starting
on
tomorrow.
Yes
to
work
and
you're
going
to
be
moving
on
when.
F
D
D
Capital,
you
know
our
financial
capital
is,
you
know,
really
in
great
respects,
all
of
our
the
most
important
job
that
we
do
as
a
city.
We're
all
you
know
financial
stewards
of
our
taxpayer
dollars.
So
I
didn't
have
the
chance
to
talk
to
vladimir
this
afternoon,
and
you
know
what
gives
me
some
some
comfort
is.
You
know
a
lot
of
what
we
pride
ourselves
here
in
apopka
is
that
we
typically
have
high
remarks
when
we
do
budget
preparation.
D
We
typically
have
high
remarks
when
we
prepare.
Our
annual
financial
statements
sounds
like
she
has
a
good
experience
doing
that
with
the
places
that
she's
been
most
specifically
the
clerk
of
the
court
being
a
government
organization
similar
to
ours.
So,
commissioner
velasquez's
point
yeah,
but
naturally
I
devolve
into
data
geek
conversations.
D
C
D
To
contact
my
contact
over
at
the
clerk
with
the
court's
office
and
have
had
high
things
to
say
about
you
as
well,
so.
Z
A
By
commissioner
benson
second.
A
A
V
All
right
I'll
be
brief.
I
had
copies
made
and
submitted
to
each
one
of
you
and
I
emailed
commissioner
becker
one
of
the
things
I
did
in
my
previous
post
and
I
want
to
bring
it
to
the
city
of
apopka,
which
is
to
keep
track
of
the
bills
that
are
currently
pending.
It's
it's
that
time
of
the
year.
It's
the
silly
season
where
the
legislature
gets
together
and
tries
to
do
some
busy
work
and
by
busy
work
I
mean
I
listed
those
bills
that
will
have
impact
on
the
city.
V
I
will
be
tracking
them
and
reviewing
them
and
then
once
there
is
they
will
be
adopted.
I
will
prepare
a
legislative
report
summarizing
the
bills
that
been
that
have
been
approved
that
have
an
effect
on
the
the
city
and
its
and
its
services.
So
I
want
to
provide
you
currently
that
is
based
on
a
review
of
all
the
outstanding
bills
that
are
currently
pending
and
their
current
status.
V
It's
a
brief
summary
of
what
the
bills
are,
and
these
are
the
the
ones
that
likely
have
and
it
will
have
an
impact
on
the
city's
day-to-day
business
and,
as
you
can
see,
some
of
them
again.
I
think
it's,
the
the
current
trend
of
the
legislature,
which
is
to
try
to
increase
the
amount
of
preemption
to
take
certain
home
rule
powers
away
from
local
governments,
that's
kind
of
a
bugaboo
of
mine
from
the
county
days
and
I
think
of
bringing
them
to
the
cities
as
well.
V
But
if
there
are
any
other
issues
that
you
become
aware
of
or
you'd
like
to
highlight,
feel
free
to,
please
let
me
know-
and
I
will
include
them
in
the
in
any
report
aside
from
that-
that's
I'll
really
have
to
report
now,
unless
you
have
any
other
questions,
any
questions.
V
A
Well,
I'm
gonna.
I've
got
a.
I
got
a
big
list,
so
we're
gonna
be
here
a
few
minutes,
gosh
well
well,
I'll,
just
start
out
with
the
legislative
update.
You
know,
we've
got
the
the
the
three
items
that
we've
kind
of
all
agreed
to
is
are
kind
of
our
priorities,
and
so
I
just
want
to
give
you
an
update
on
those
the
harman
road
extension
representative.
True
now
has
agreed
to
sponsor
in
the
house.
Senator
baxley
has
agreed
to
sponsor
in
the
senate
fire
station.
A
Six
representative
brown
has
agreed
to
sponsor
in
the
house
waiting
to
hear
back
from
senator
bracey
on
a
senate
sponsor
weakaiva
springs,
recharge
flood
protection.
We've
all
talked
about
border
lake
in
that
area,
waiting
to
hear
back
from
representative
plakin,
senator
broder
has
agreed
to
sponsor
it
in
the
senate,
so
we're
hopefully
have
these
in
the
next
week
wrapped
up
as
to
you,
know,
sponsors,
and
then
we
start.
You
know,
working
on,
you
know
getting
them
through
the
legislature.
A
A
Next
up,
I
want
to
give
a
big
shout
out
the
building
department.
They
came
in
saturday
and
sunday,
we've
gotten
behind.
We
had
a
little
covet
issue
and-
and
you
know,
we're
building
going
crazy
and
they
came
in
and
just
on
the
weekend
built
over
700
000
in
impact
fees.
So
this
week,
they've
they've
generated
a
million
dollars
in
impact
fees,
so
well
congrats
to
our
the
building
department,
for
you
know
making
it
happen.
So
we
really
appreciate
their
hard
work
next
up.
E
Can
I
ask
you
a
question
regarding
that
sure,
because
I
did
go
up
to
the
building
department?
I
had
a
question
for
them
and
I
I
did
ask
them
this
question
are:
are
we
looking
at
any
time
to
do
a
software
so.
F
A
Okay,
next
up
the
apopka
edc
website,
I
know
that
stacy
and
I
and
and
the
t
team
rob
and
bob
looking
at
that
and
kelly.
Looking
really
good
we're
we're
projecting
a
february
17th
presentation,
city,
council,
you're,
going
to
be
impressed.
We've
got
kind
of
a
you
know
the
snapshot
of
where
what
it
will.
You
know
ultimately
look
like,
so
I
think
you'll
be
really
really
happy
with
that.
A
Okay,
next
up
want
to
just
make
sure
everybody's
good
with
in
your
packet.
You
should
have
our
our
team
at
rec
came
up
with
this,
the
classes
and
the
how
we
want
to
do
them.
A
If,
if
what
we've
done
is
we've
moved
a
couple
of
the
bigger
ones
which
are
the
zuma
classes
and
the
senior
cheer
exercises
to
the
vfw
to
give
us
more
room
for
spacing
them
out,
obviously,
either
vaccination
or
mask
you
know,
that's
so
we're
trying
to
accommodate
everybody's
wishes
so
if
you've
got
any,
would
like
to
get
kind
of
a
kind
of
a
head
nod
from
everybody
that
this
is
something
everybody
can
live
with.
We're
hoping
to
implement
this.
As
of
february
1st.
A
C
A
A
A
You
got
it
okay,
so
it
looks
like
everybody.
Commissioner
becker
you
in
agreement,
good
with
that.
A
Okay,
awesome,
okay,
good,
perfect!
All
right!
Let's
see
next
covet
19
updates,
you
got
the
numbers
in
front
of
you.
You
know
it's
just
been
a
bad
couple
of
weeks.
A
So
just
take
a
look
at
that
I
want
to
let
you
know
we
chief
willem
and
captain
sanchez,
and
I
went
out
to
orange
county
to
see
the
vaccinations,
and
so
just
let
just
kind
of
recap.
You
know
last
week
or
last
commission
meeting
we
talked
about
we'd
have
20
paramedics
that
are
now
licensed
or
whatever
to
to
to
give
out
the
vaccines,
and
so
we
went
out
there
to
find
out.
You
know
how,
how
it's
being
run
and
so
very
impressive.
A
The
the
checks
and
balances
the
the
they've
really
got
it
down
to
a
science.
They
had
17
different
positions
and
they
were
doing
a
couple
thousand
a
day.
So
we're
we're
really
pushing
hard
on
doh
and
orange
county
to
let
us
we've
got
a
plan.
Chief
williams
got
a
plan
to
be
able
to
do
it
around
at
the
vfw
we
could
put
in
two
stations,
which
would
with
with
four
paramedics
and
or
excuse
me.
You
have
four
paramedics
and
two
office
staff.
A
A
Moderna
is
at
28
days,
and
so
we
what
we
would
request
from
orange
county
and
the
doh
is
that
we
only
we
get
one
or
the
other,
because
the
logistics
of
figuring
out
moderna
versus
pfizer
on
the
booster
is
going
to
be
a
challenge.
But
we
feel
real,
confident
if
not
next
week,
the
following
week
that
we'll
be
up
and
running
because
what
happens
is
next
week.
A
Orange
county
then
starts
the
booster
vaccinations
for
pfizer,
and
so
now
they
gotta,
if
they
want
to
bring
in
new
people,
they've,
got
to
also
take
care
of
the
first
group
which
you
know
needs
to
get
the
booster,
because
the
booster,
the
the
initial
vaccine,
is
50
effective.
The
second
booster
makes
it
95
effective,
so
they've
got
to
get
that
second
shot
in
their
arm.
So
we
said
you
know
when
they
get
to
that
point.
A
They've
got
to
obviously
take
care
of
the
booster
folks
first,
so
I
think
it'll
be
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
us
to
kind
of
fill
in
and
help
help
them,
and
so
it's
interesting
as
we're
riding
home.
We
found
out
that
the
the
company
was
charging
five
dollars
to
to
administer
the
paperwork
and
the
the
the
flow
of
the
vaccinations.
A
So
I
called
a
good
friend
of
mine
in
tallahassee-
hey,
you
know,
I
think
it
looks
like
that
might
be
more
than
orange
county
is
going
to
can
afford
because
it's
coming
out
of
orange
county's
pocket
and
he
said,
let
me
see
what
I
can
do
and
so
an
hour
later
the
magical
price
went
down
to
two
dollars.
So
we
we
feel
like
we'll
be
able
to
get.
You
know
some
some
help.
A
You
know,
obviously
from
the
state
or
the
feds
to
to
be
able
to
do
this,
but
regardless
I
mean
we
as
a
city,
I
mean,
if
there's
nothing,
we
more
important
than
the
health
of
our
citizens.
If,
if,
if
we've
got
to
dig
into
our
our
reserves
to
to
vaccinate
the
people
that
that
need
and
want
to
be
vaccinated,
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
make
that
available.
A
So
hopefully,
within
the
next
two
weeks,
we'll
have
the
the
go-ahead
green
light
from
doh
and
in
orange
county
to
to
start
vaccinations
here
at
the
vfw.
So
real
excited
about
that
and
and.
A
Yes,
they
will
do
that.
The
way
it
would
work
is
they
would
bring
us
out
every
every
morning.
They
would
bring
us
out,
they
bring
it
out,
a
dose
in
the
250,
okay,
yeah
yeah,
so
hats
off
to
you,
know
the
department
of
health
for
for
their.
You
know,
they've
really
got
this
thing,
humming
and
hats
off
to
our
fire
department
that
are
ready
to
go
and
just
waiting
on
doh
to
give
us
the
green
light.
So
thank
you.
E
A
Okay,
so
that's
for
the
covet
updates.
Two
other
items.
One
is:
you
know,
there's
been
several
months
ago
that
we
we
put
under
contract
the
water
company
and
to
look
at
our.
We
were
having
water
losses
approaching
18
and
couldn't
figure
out
where
all
the
water
was
was
going.
Is
it
leaky
pipes?
Is
it
you
know
whatever?
A
A
A
They
should
have
been
10x,
so
we
had
two
accounts
that
went
from
from
300
a
month
to
over
almost
4
000
a
month,
so
they're
they're,
I
don't
know
how
they're
doing
I
don't
know
how
they're
finding
them,
but
I'm
telling
you
what
they
are
they're
they're
working
hard
for
city
of
apopka,
so
hats
off
to
the
you
know
that
their
team
and-
and
you
know
because
right
now
we're
in
the
rate
study,
and
so,
if
we
find
this
these
these
dollars,
then
it
reduces
the
rate
that
the
rest
of
us
have
to
pay.
A
A
Now,
for
the
last
one
wow,
what
an
interesting
call
so
this
has
been
about
today
is
wednesday.
Was
it
friday,
thursday
or
friday
of
last
week?
A
I
got
a
call
from
dan
wilcox
who
runs
the
central
florida
ymca
and
the
ymca
like
a
lot
of
gyms,
which
is
a
lot
of
what
they
do
or
gymnast
you
know,
or
fitness
centers
they've,
been
their
revenue
has
been
cut
by
two-thirds
in
the
last
since
covet
hit.
A
So
he
calls
me
just
to
inform
me
that
hey
we're
going
to
have
to
to
sell
camp
wewa
said
we've
got
a
buyer
ready
to
to
purchase.
We
we've
got
a
we've
got
some
debt
covenants,
we've
got
to
meet
and
it's
just
something:
we've
got
to
do
just
to
survive.
You
know,
they've,
just
gotten
rid
of
their
aquatic
center
on
international
drive,
sold
that
to
harris
rosen,
and
I
said
whoa
whoa
what
you're
gonna
sell.
J
A
Anyway,
an
unbelievable
facility
that
you
know
we
we
had
talked
about,
I
know
with
with
brian
foreman,
from
the
rex
department.
You
know
we
were
talking
about
putting
some
fields
out
there
off
of
harmon
road,
for
you
know
some
some
recreational
facilities
for
the
southwest
part
of
the
city,
which
is
you
know,
growing,
as
we
all
know,
growing
relatively
fast,
and
so
I
thought
what
if
we
could
swap
the
land
we
have
on
on
harmon
for
this
land
here
at
le
camp
wewa.
A
A
It
was
a
boy
scout
camp,
so
you
know
I'm
coming
to
you
for
if,
if
we
get
an
enthusiastic
support,
then
I'd
like
to
move
forward,
I
mean
obviously
they're
in
a
in
a
pretty
big
hurry
to
to
get
something
done,
they're,
either
going
to
sell
it
and
develop
it
into
into
houses
or
we're
going
to
figure
out
a
way
for
the
city
to
buy
it
and
and
turn
it
into
a
a
city
park.
Obviously
it's
on
two
lakes,
so
you'll
be
able
to
canoe.
A
A
And
we
would
be
back
to
normal,
so
looking
for
input,
whether
you
think
it's
something
you
know.
Obviously
it's
it's
we're
talking
in
the
range
of
about
five
million
dollars.
A
We've
got
23
acres
on
one
side
of
of
harmon
road
and
we've
got
eight
little
over
eight
acres
on
the
other
side
of
harmon
road.
I
don't
know
how
all
those
numbers
work.
We
also
have
about
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
in
impact
fees.
Recreational
impact
fees
available.
A
If
we
want
to
do
something
so
I'm
just
it's
kind
of
a
now
or
never
and
and
just
want
to
get
the
city
council's
temperature
on
the
the
issue
and
whether
it's
something
you
want
us
to
to
move
forward
with
at
least
negotiating-
and
you
know
if,
if
it's
something
like
to
move
fast,
obviously
we
need
to
get
appraisals
and
we'd
have
to
come
back,
obviously
to
city
council
for
a
couple
of
a
couple
of
hearings
to
approve.
E
Oh,
I
get
to
go
first
kind
of
make
a
decision.
I
mean
this
is
a
big
investment
for
the
city
of
apopka,
but
I
understand
the
sentimental
attachment
to
it
and
obviously,
if
they
do
sell
it,
I
mean
I
don't
like
hearing
that
they're
going
to
turn
this
into
residential.
E
You
know
I
I
I'd
like
to
have
more
information,
because
I
mean
right
now,
you're
talking
about
swapping,
you
know
land
for
it.
Vacant.
C
E
Land,
so
if
they're
looking
to
sell
right
away,
I
mean
this
is
a
process.
That's
that
needs
to
be
at
least
a
discussion
where
you
know
how
much
is
it
really
going
to
cost
us
at
the
end
and
not
even
cost
us
to
to
take
it,
but
then
how
do
we
maintain
it.
E
That
I
you
know,
I
don't
I
don't
want
to
say
yes
or
no,
but
I'd
like
to
have
more
time
I
mean
if
you
can
make
time
for
me
ed.
Certainly
I
just
don't
want
to
say,
go
ahead,
let's
do
it
and
and
not
realize
the
cost,
and
you
know
even
the
process.
I
just
you
know
I'd
like
to
have
more
time.
B
F
B
It
just
goes
away,
and
so
I
just
think
this
is
something
that
we
need
to
do
what
we
can
to
aim
at,
but,
as
you
said,
we
need
to
make
sure
the
sustainability
of
handling
it.
You
know
if
someone
gives
you
a
a
castle,
but
you
can't
take
care
of
that
castle
and
end
up
going
in
disarray,
so
I
really
am
for
pursuing
it.
I
I
think
we
we
need
to
hang
on
to
this
gem.
B
A
A
That
would
be
that'd,
be
great,
I
mean
that's.
I
mean
that
would
be
my
goal
and
that
was
you
know.
I
just
there's
some
property
right
next
to
our
eight
acre
piece
that
he
has
under
contract
and
he's
got
12
almost
13
acres
and
his
contract
price
was
3.5
million
dollars,
and
so
I
mean
so.
If
you
kind
of
do
the
numbers
we
might
have
enough,
where
it's
it's
an
even
swap
right,
you
know
and
and
obviously
we're
a
city.
A
We
can't
just
we
got
to
go
by
the
numbers,
whatever
the
appraiser
says
it
is.
It
is
on
on
the
buy
side
in
the
sell
side
correct,
but
one
of
the
things
I
I
wanted
to
bring
to
their
attention
to
ymca's
attention
is
that
they've
got
a
lot
of
history
and
a
lot
of
if
you
go
out
there,
the
kiwanis
club
has
got
four
or
five
six
buildings
that
they
put
their
sweat,
equity
and
financial
resources
to
build
so
they've
got
some.
A
You
know
they
would
have
a
pr
problem
if
they
sold
it
for
development.
So
I
think
we've
got
a
little
leverage.
I
wouldn't
say
a
lot
because
I
mean
obviously
they've
got
a
bank
breathing
down
their
neck,
that
they
need.
They
need
to
be
paid,
but
I
think
it's
it's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
save
face
for
them.
Obviously
give
us
a
great.
A
D
Yeah,
so
I
apologize
the
zoom
cut
me
off
for
a
little
bit
there,
so
I
was
watching
on
youtube.
Instead,
I
got
a
little
bit
of
a
lag
so
can
I
just
repeat:
I
think
what
you
said.
What
I
didn't
catch
was
where
the
swap
target.
A
D
A
I
think
that's
assets
on
top
of
the
ground,
yeah
they've
got,
you
can
see
the
number
of
buildings
like
their.
You
know
the
their
mess
halls,
probably
probably
four
or
five
thousand
square
feet.
They've
got
you
know
all
their
their
bunk
houses
and
the
I
I'd
have
to
guess.
They've
got
two
two
residences
on
the
property,
so
would
the
intent.
A
That
would
be
my
you
know,
I
mean
we
can.
Obviously
we
can
adjust
it.
One
of
the
things
that
brian
foreman
is
he's,
not
he's,
not
a
real
fan
of
overnight
camping.
Obviously
you
know
the
liability
that
comes
along
with
overnight
camping.
Maybe
we
get
rid
of
that
move,
something
else
in
there.
You
know
so
I
you'd
like
to
you
know
the
numbers
we've
got
are
based
on
the
way.
They've
always
run
it.
So
I
mean.
Could
we
do
it
more
efficiently?
A
D
Yeah,
you
know,
five
million
valuation
would
put
it
as
five
times,
multiple
of
their
of
their
net,
their
gross
revenue.
Their
margin
looks
like
it's
87
000
for
the
2019,
so
the
multiple
gets
pretty
high
when
you
just
look
at
it
from
an
earnings
basis,
but
I
mean
I
I
you
know
I
like
the
idea.
I
think
it's
a
pretty.
You
know
anytime.
C
D
Can
get
a
park
asset
like
that
and
really
kind
of
sky's
the
limit
with
programming
that
you
can
do
out
of
there?
I
think
it's
it's
worth
exploring
further
for
sure.
B
E
Of
a
maybe
well,
the
maybe
is
only
because
at
some
point,
they're
willing
to
take
the
land
swap.
A
A
They
built
there's
a
building
out
there
that
lockheed
martin
built,
there's
four
or
five
at
least
four
or
five
buildings
that
the
kiwanis
club-
I
guess
of
orlando-
I
don't
know
where
have
built
out
there,
so
there
are
a
lot
of
people
that
invested
their
time
and
treasures
to
to
make
camp
wheel
what
it
is,
and
so
I
think
the
ymca
has
a
not
an
obligation,
but
I
think
push
comes
to
shove.
They
would
much
rather
us
take
it
over,
so
they
they
don't
lose
that
that
the
donor
base
they've
got.
A
They
don't
lose
them.
You
know,
because
of
it's
now
houses,
so
I
think,
by
maintaining
what
we've
got
that
it
they're
able
to
maintain
some,
you
know
relationship
with
their
with
their
their
donors.
E
Well,
I
mean
I'm
willing
to
explore
it.
I
just
feel
that
at
this
time
I
mean
we're
already
kind
of
you
know.
Our
services
have
been
very
slim
and
we're
really
in
a
tight
budget.
We've
got
all
this
and
now
we're
we're
kind
of
jumping
into
the
water
to
invest,
and
I
understand
that
because
I
I
I
truly
believe
like
commissioner
becker
said
this
is
a
part
that
you
don't
want
to
give
up,
because
once
it's
gone,
it's
gone,
but
I'm
you
know
I
have
just
just
some
concerns
about.
E
You
know
what
our
financial
investment
is
going
to
be
in
it.
That's
it
I
mean,
but
once
you
come
back
with
the
appraisals
and
it's
it's
going
to
be
sort
of
a
swap
and
our
investment
is
not
going
to
be
an
extraordinary
amount,
I
mean
I'm
willing
to
explore
whatever
we
can
do
to
save
camp.
Believe,
maybe
that
if
that's
what
you're
looking
for
that's.
Why
well.
A
A
I
mean,
I
think
they
they're
more
than
willing,
I
think,
some
of
the
programs.
If
they
want
to
use
camp
we.
Why
would
I
would
we
be
willing
to
partner
with
with
the
ymca?
Absolutely
I
mean
I
don't
you
know
we
want
to
try
to
get
it
to
break
even,
but
we
want
it.
You
know
we
want
to
be
able
to
to
utilize
the
facilities
you
know
to
their
to
their
highest
and
best
use.
So
that's
definitely.
D
Yeah-
and
I
think
you
know,
as
you're
exploring
the
land
swap
opportunity
if
it's
a
if
it's
an
even
trade
in
terms
of
you
know,
can't
we,
while
existing
operation
assets
and
land
to
the
land
that
we
we
put
forth.
I
guess
the
only
other
thing
to
just
make
sure
that
we're
aware
of
is
what
the
capital.
U
A
Mind
yeah
I
had
I
took
brian
out
there
and
also
took
joe
chrysofolia
out
there
to
take
a
look
and
there's
some
wear
and
tear
there's
there's
some
buildings,
you
know,
could
use
a
roof
for
the
next
five
years.
Overall,
it's
not
in
bad
shape.
They've
had
a
caretaker
there
for
the
whole
year,
he's
even
added
a
few
things
to
to
make
it.
You
know
better,
so
it's
not
in
horrible
shape.
C
A
A
It's
it's
it's!
It's
unbelievable,
okay!
So
here's
what
we'll
do
if
we
can
everybody
get
a
chance
to
take
a
look
at
that
and
then
we'll
bring
it
back
next
council
meeting
I'd
like
to.
I
mean
I
don't
want
to
hold
them
up.
I
mean
they
they're
literally
the
wolves
are
at
the
door,
so
we
can't.
I
don't
want
to
hold
them
up.
They've
got
they've,
got
a
willing
buyer
today.
So
they're
not
you
know
they
would
love
to
work
with
us,
but
but
I
I
understand
they
can't
they
can't
wait.
A
So
if
we
can
so
I'm
three
and
a
half,
maybe
a
three
and
a
half
votes.
Four
and
a
half
votes.
A
D
Yeah
and
then
last
question
not
to
believe
the
point
mayor.
If,
if
the
valuation
on
our
property
comes
back
or
we're
kind
of
upside
down
to
our
favor,
meaning
our
land
is
more
valuable
than
what
they're.
D
A
I
would
think
anything's
on
the
table
and
it's
like
there's
some
there's
some
lots.
I
don't
know
if
you
remember
on.
If
you
go
down
binyan
road,
there
was
a
road
that
was
built
on
the.
So,
if
you're
going
south
on
binyan,
there
was
a
there
was
a
little
road
right
before
you
get
that
first
neighborhood
on
the
past
camp
wewa,
and
so
you
could.
You
could
even
sell
there's
probably
six
eight
ten
lots
that
you
could
you
could.
A
A
Obviously
I
don't
want
to
the
last
thing
I
wanna
do
is
come
out
of
pocket
for
with
five
million
dollars
to
buy
it,
but
but
I
think
we've
got
some
options
that
that
we're
we're
swapping
land-
you
know,
hopefully
you
know
dollar
for
dollar
and
we
don't
have
to
come
out
of
pocket
for
anything
and
then
all
we
need
to
worry
about
is
trying
to
figure
out
the
operating
side
of
it.
But
you
know
I
just
I
just
think
it's
it's
it's
an
unbelievable.
A
It's
a
once-in-a-lifetime
opportunity
would
I'd
like
to
come
october
or
in
july
or
august
when
we're
in
budget.
You
know,
but
it
isn't
it.
It
is
what
it
is,
and
so,
with
that
I
I
will,
I
will
take
it
back
to
the
the
board
at
the
ymca
tomorrow,
and
what
I
would
I
would
ask
is
that
everybody
go
out.
Take
a
look.
A
We'll
have
some,
you
know
whatever
questions
you
need
ask
edward
and
we'll
try
to
get
you
answers
on
anything
else
that
you
need,
and
then
I
think
what
we'll
probably
need
to
do
jim
is,
if
is
I
will
let
them
know?
We
probably
need
the
appraisals,
I
think,
and
maybe
we
get
with
the
y
and
we
get
the
saint
use
the
same
appraiser.
F
W
So
our
property
would
probably
take
about
two
to
three
weeks
to
get
the
appraisal
on
each
of
those
properties
they're
they're
vacant.
So
it's
it
should
be
pretty
pretty
simple.
The
y
property
is
a
little
bit
more
complicated
because
there's
multiple
buildings,
multiple
uses
and
there's
two
different
land
uses
in
the
property,
but
that
would
probably
take
a
little
bit
longer.
I
can
talk
to
danny
and
find
out
how
long
it
would.
A
A
couple
of
the
negatives
for
the
property
are
it's
it's
on
septic
tanks,
which
we
have
to
get
rid
of
those,
and
also
it's
on
well
water,
which
I
was
amazed
that
it's
well
water,
so
we,
those
are
two
things
I
know
we'd
have
to
upgrade.
We
need
to
go
to
sewer,
which,
which
is
right
there
on
binion
and
we'd,
have
to
go
to
city
water
relatively
fast.
B
B
J
B
And
if
nothing
else,
we
have
that
land
and
if
we
got
to
a
place
where
it
couldn't
sustain
itself,
we
could
always
go
ahead
and
liquidate
it
then,
but
to
trade
it
out
for
something
that's
going
to
be
houses
anyway
and
be
able
to
save
something
that
you
can't
reproduce.
I
just
think
it's
a
great
way
to
go,
and
you
know
I
think.
F
E
For
green
space-
and
this
is
a
beautiful
piece
of
property-
I'm
looking
at
it
and
it
would
be
a
shame
to
lose
it,
but
at
the
same
time
you
know
you,
you
don't
want
to
jump
into
something,
and
then
we
have
a
part
that
we
can't
even
take
care
of,
and
then
it
just
becomes
run
down
and
we
we
can't
afford
it.
So
I
mean
that's
what
we
have
to
face.
So
I
mean
I'll
I'll.
C
D
A
The
assessment
as
well
right
and
the
other
thing
they
did.
Let
me
know
that
which
I
didn't
know
that
80
percent
of
the
revenue
from
camp
we
was
outside
the
y.
So
it's
only
20
of
the
revenue
is
from
the
directly
from
the
y
folks
so,
which
I
think
is
good.
I
mean.
Obviously
we
would
want
to
you
know
partner
with
them
on
that
20.
A
If,
if
we
were
to
take
it
over,
but
I
mean-
and
I
tell
you
the
biggest
thing-
we've
all
we've
all
heard-
you
know
on
the
campaign
trail
is,
you
know
a
community
pool
and
there
is
a
as
a
pool
out
there.
That's
an
olympic-sized
pool.
So
it's
you
know,
which
is
pretty
amazing.
I
I
never
never
forget
as
a
kid
they
used
to
have
a
high
back.
When
you
know
liability,
wasn't
a
big
problem
with
you
know
insurance
they
had,
they
had
a
high
diving.
A
You
know
a
platform
and
I
used
to
jump
off
that
thing
and
it
scared
me
to
death
as
a
kid
so
been
there
many
a
time
so
anyway.
Okay!
Well,
that's
great.
I
appreciate
everybody's
input
on
that
and
we
will.
We
will
proceed
forward,
we'll
obviously
we're
going
to
need
to
do
it
in
haste,
not
because
we
want
to
do
things
like
this,
but
because
it's
it's
it's
the
time
we
need
to
work
at
it
fast.
So
anyway,
with.