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Apopka City Council Final Budget Hearing for 2022/2023 Fiscal Year at City Hall on September 14, 2022 at 6 PM. To view the meeting agenda visit: http://www.apopka.gov/agenda
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A
Heavenly
father
we
come
before
you
tonight
and
we're
grateful
for
your
goodness
to
us,
each
and
every
day
where
we
ask
for
your
grace
and
your
wisdom
tonight
as
we
bring
together
this
final
budget
for
the
people
of
this
city,
or
we
ask
that
you
would
cause
this
place
to
be
filled
with
compassion
filled
with
wisdom
and
filled
with
zeal
for
the
things
that
matter.
We
thank
you
for
our
following.
B
C
D
C
Anybody,
obviously
we're
at
the
point
where
we
can't
really
go
up
could
go
down
if
it
looks
like
from
last
the
last
budget
hearing
we
had
want
to
keep
it
the
same,
if,
if
so,
it
looked
for
a
motion
to
approve
miligen
for
any
any
discussion
on
that.
If
not
I
just.
I
want
to
need
to
read
this
into
the
script
in
accordance
with
the
truth
and
millage
trim
requirements,
the
city
must
set
the
final
millage
rate
and
advise
the
property
appraiser
at
the
final
millage
rate
and
rollback
rate.
C
E
D
C
All
right,
edward
before
you
come
up
in
front
of
you
got
a
couple
of
different
sheets
for
you.
We've
got
some
of
the
changes
we've
made
from
last
week,
which
are
the
capital
cost
that
are
needed
to
to
add
the
additional
firefighters
as
well
as
a
way
to
to
pay
for
those
or
or
obviously
we
can
go
into
reserves
to
do
that,
and
then
you
also
have
the
operating
cost
in.
C
If
you
want
to
offset
that
with
operating
cost
reductions
or
operating
cost
revenue
increases.
You've
got
that
on
the
right
side
of
that
that
11
or
the
eight
and
a
half
by
14.,
then
the
second
sheet
is
giving
you
some
options
as
far
as
how
how
we
bring
on
the
new
firefighters
and
the
the
numbers
with
that.
So
with
that
edward,
I
think
you
want
to
come
forward
and
kind
of
explain
those
some
of
the
options
we've
got.
F
F
The
requirement
you
have
to
do
tonight
is
you.
You
set
your
military.
You
had
to
do
that.
First,
that's
required,
and
the
second
thing
you
have
to
do
tonight
is:
you
have
to
set
an
overall
budget.
That's
the
other
requirement.
So
before
we
get
started.
I
want
to
make
a
few
comments.
If
I
could,
from
the
last
budget
hearing
that
we
had,
we
went
through
a
presentation
and
you
directed
me
to
go
back
and
find
how
we
can
get
12
additional
firefighters
into
this
budget.
F
So,
as
mayor
said
before
you,
you
have
those
samples
of
the
different
all
the
different
areas
that
you
can
can
work
from
what
I
want
to
say.
First
before
we
get
started,
because
I
want
to
make
a
clear
for
the
record.
There
were
some
comments
made
last
week
and
one
of
them
was
made
by
commissioner
like
becker,
and
I
want
to
make
it
clear
for
your
record
and
for
the
public
that
there
was
no
friction.
I
did
not
create
friction
I
did
not
create.
F
I
was
not
trying
to
do
anything
out
of
the
ordinary
or
anything
that
would
not
give
you
what
you
want
for
budget.
We
had
a
hearing
back
in
july,
we
had
workshops,
we
had
hearing
devices
that
proposed
military,
and
I
made
it
clear
that
if
we
wanted
to
add
more
staff
or
add
anything,
we
needed
to
increase
the
millage
rate
and
then
we
could
bring
it
down
if
we
need
to.
F
That
being
said,
you've
come
back
and
you
said
I
want
to
find
a
way
to
work
this
in.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
commend
you
for
a
great
reserve
policy.
I
think
it's
a
great
thing
to
set
the
size
of
rc
and
where
we
are
going
and
the
projects
that
we
have
coming
on.
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we
have
a
reserve
policy,
so
I
commend
you
for
setting
up
reserve
policy.
F
I
think
it's
a
good
policy.
I
think
it
has
ways
for
us
to
build
back.
If
we
go
into
those
reserves,
I
think
it
gives
directions
for
you
and
future
councils
to
make
sure
that
they
maintain
a
safe
operating
reserve,
that
I
mean
a
reserve
that
will
allow
us
to
make
the
hard
decisions
or
things
that
happen
as
we
move
through
years.
F
You
know
if
the
the
quickest
way
and
easiest
way
is
find
it
all
go
right
to
reserve.
That's
the
easiest
way,
because
we
can't
go
up
on
the
military,
but
I
want
you
to
have
some
options.
I
went
through
and
I
looked
for
additional
revenues.
Where
could
we
find
some
more
revenue
that
would
help
offset
this
portion?
F
F
There
was
some
discussion
about
maybe
starting
some
offer
some
firefighters
in
the
beginning
of
the
year
get
those
on
trains
and
then
bring
some
in
later
in
the
year
where
we
can
put
them
all
in
at
one
time.
There
was
discussion
about
capital
improvements
to
those
stations.
There
were
some
comments
made
about.
You
know
you
can
just
put
cots
in
there.
We
can.
You
know
some.
There
was
even
a
comment
made
about
sleeping
on
a
roof.
F
That's
not
what
we
do
in
apopka
as
a
city
administrator.
I
would
never
bring
that
to
you,
so
it
was
important
that
we
went
back.
We
had
facilities,
go
to
all
of
our
stations
visit
our
stations
actually
talk
to
our
firefighters
and
ask
them.
What
could
we
do
to
add
this
third
person?
What
would
we
need
to
do
so?
You
have
a
list
of
those
improvements
tonight
as
well.
F
I
think
it's
only
fair
that
we
make
sure
that
we
have
correct
beds,
chairs
tables
rooms.
There
was
some
talk
about
dividing.
We
might
need
to
divide
some
rooms
for
privacy.
We
put
funding
in
here
to
be
able
to
do
that
if
we
have
to
in
some
of
those
cases,
parking
was
an
issue
at
the
stations
we
have.
We've
put
some
funding
in
here
to
be
able
to
provide
more
parking
spaces
for
those
positions
that
come
if
this
position
come
on
and
when
they
come
on.
F
There
are
no
deficiencies,
there's
no!
I
bring.
I
brought
you
information
I've,
given
you
everything
that
I
can
possibly
give
you
I've,
given
you
all
the
facts,
all
the
information,
and
so
I
just
want
that
to
be
clear
and
I
want
to
know
I
want
you
to
know.
I
sat
down
with
each
of
you
and
talked
to
you
to
kind
of
see
where
you
were
in
this
process.
F
I
think
it's
important
that
you
know
and
realize
if
we
go
to
research
for
these
positions,
which
that's
an
option,
if
we
go
to
reserve
for
these
positions,
just
keep
in
mind
next
year,
when
we
build
a
budget,
that
portion
will
have
to
be
made
up,
because
I
would
not
recommend
you
continue
the
reserves
for
continued
operating
costs.
So
we
will,
you
have
to
figure
a
way.
We
will
figure
a
way
to
fund
those
first
going
forward
without
going
into
reserves.
F
F
F
I
also
have
a
duty
to
make
sure
that
we
take
care
of
our
employees
from
an
administrative
standpoint.
All
of
our
employees
are
important
all
the
way
down
right
to
the
maintenance,
workforce
mowing
or
trimming
swimming
the
sanitation
workers,
so
all
of
our
employees
are
important.
I
think
that's,
that's!
That's
vital
that
we
realize
we
have
to
take
care
of
our
all
of
our
employees.
F
You
can
see
in
this
budget
we've
added
several
positions
in
other
departments
and
some
of
those
are
very
critical
because
we've
we
need
those
in
those
departments
a
lot
of
those
departments
service,
our
police
and
fire
department,
and
so
it's
important
that
we
have
the
resources
in
those
departments
as
well
to
take
care
of
those
services
that
they
provide
to
our
public
safety
people
and
keep
in
mind.
First
and
foremost,
you
hear
it
from
everyone
you
hear
from
me:
public
safety
is
number
one.
It's
important.
F
F
The
capital
needed
to
make
sure
that
these
positions
have
everything
they
need
is
included
the
improvements
to
their
stations.
We
need
to
do
those
they're
in
there
as
well,
so
you
have
the
amount
before
you
is.
Let
me
go
to
so
we
can
go
to
the
amounts
you
can
see.
So
you
can
see
the
overall
budget
is
off
about
1.2
million
dollars.
F
So
at
this
point,
I'm
kind
of
looking
for
direction
or
consensus
from
you
of
how
you
would
like
to
see
this
funded.
I
gave
you
another
sheet
that
you
have.
That
shows
if
you
were
to
pick
some
of
those
scenarios
that
you
have,
there
is
an
additional
120
000
in
interest
income
that
we
were
able
to
budget
to
help
offset
some
of
this
cost.
F
This
was
the
item
that
you
asked
me
to
bring
back
so
with
that
being
said,
I
kind
of
you
know
I'd
like
to
know
which
of
the
council
based
on
comfort
based
on
discussion,
based
on
the
decision
that
you
make.
I
will
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
correct
amount
in
your
resolution
before
you
adopt
that
tonight.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
if
there's
a
change
to
that
resolution
number
that
we
we
make
that
before
we
have
to
vote
so.
C
G
G
And
then
I
guess
from
what
we've
discussed
already
multiple
times,
and
this
is
kind
of
across
the
board
on
all
staff
levels
that
we
we
can
budget
october
one,
but
we
still
have
to
there's
there's
not
a
huge
knocking
of
firefighters
wanting
to
come
into
the
city
right
now.
So
we
can
budget
at
all
right
now,
but-
and
I
I'm
in
support
of
budgeting
at
all
right
now,
but
we're
not
hiring
18
october.
B
F
H
E
B
H
G
That's
kind
of
my
point
to
counsel
more
so
is
that
I
feel
like
we
should
budget
it
all
right
now
up
front,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
not
having
18
applicants
knocking
on
our
door.
Saying.
Please
give
us
this
job
and
we're
going
to
hunt
these
people
down
and
even
when
we
do
hire
them
not
100
are
following
through
so.
C
G
Through
different
training
programs
that
may
be
better
or
reimbursement
for
education,
things
like
that,
so
that
we
may
not
be
offering
so
I
and
I
don't
want
to
belabor
the
point-
we've
discussed
this
around
around
100
million
different
times,
so
I
would
advocate
that
we
just
fully
fund
it
right
now.
We'll
figure
it
out
next
year
how
to
budget
this,
rather
than
take
it
out
of
reserves,
but
I'd
rather
take
out
our
reserves
now
and
we'll
fund
it
real
estate.
Although
it
is
slowing
down
we're
still
seeing
huge
increases,
just
like
we
did.
G
Last
year
we
saw
a
4.7
million
dollar
increase
in
our
income,
we're
going
to
see
something
similar
next
year.
So
even
if
that
goes
down
in
half,
we
still
have
the
money
to
be
able
to
do
this.
So
that
would
be
that's
my
point
that
that
would
be
what
I
would
advocate.
Let's
just
budget
to
day,
one
same
thing
with
the
training
officer
in
health
and
safety.
Let's
just
make
sure
those
are
all
available
day
one
I
want
to
see
once
we
approve
this
assuming
we
all
do.
F
G
A
Last
week,
of
course,
was,
I
think,
a
pretty
difficult
time.
I
know
it
was
for
me.
We
came
in
that
I
I
thought
we
had
again
for
every
department.
Not
everyone
gets
everything
they're
wanting,
but
I
thought
we
really
had
gone
through
that
process.
So
I
didn't
anticipate
the
level
of
animosity
that
arose
frustration.
I
don't
want
to
characterize
that
wrong
on
anyone.
A
A
A
A
At
that
point
I
thought:
okay.
Well
then
it's
the
the
security
or
the
the
training
officer,
the
health
and
safety
officer.
We
just
need
to
do
that
if
nothing
more
than
just
simply
to
say
this
is
so
austin's
death
doesn't
just
go
in
vain.
It's
not
just
forgotten,
and
I
know
no
one
here
is
doing
that.
A
We
saw
that
at
his
funeral
service
and
it
was
the
most
moving
thing,
and
so
I
thought
that's
really
what
the
ask
was
going
to
be
at
that
point
and
it
just
emotions
being
as
they
are.
It
just
somehow
seemed
to
steamroll
into
something
that
I
I
hadn't
anticipated
and
so
for
me
again,
I'm
probably
the
strongest
one
that
has
been
that
proponent
for
the
reserve
policy.
I
presented
that
several
years
ago
and
yeah,
if
that's
just
candy
money,
if
that's
just
so,
we
feel
good
about
ourselves.
A
A
People
are
more
important
than
pizza,
and
so
this
baby
of
mine
is
not
something,
as
I've
said,
all
along
there's
reasons
you
do
dip
into
that,
and
so
on
the
spot,
without
having
more
and
again
I
know
you
didn't
anticipate
it
going
that
direction
or
I
believe
you
would
have
been
here.
I
I
did
meet
with
you.
A
A
A
A
You
guys
know
what
vital
means
vital
means
life
is
threatened
without
it,
and
so
that's
what
I
began
to
try
and
figure
out
with
what
began
to
be
presented
last
week,
because
before
that
I
thought
it
was,
and
this
was
what
my
understanding
was.
It's
some
place.
We
want
to
be
it's
some
place,
that's
good
to
be,
but
getting
there
in
an
incremental
step,
though
not
ideal
was
acceptable
when
you
take
in
all
the
other
factors.
A
A
A
Yes,
there
are
those
scenarios
and
then
there
are
also
you
know
and
again
you
you
bring
a
perspective
being
in
the
industry
that
helps
to
look
at
a
picture.
There's
a
lot
of
other
indicators.
We
lost
800
points
on
the
dow
yesterday,
that's
a
that's
a
big
hit.
It's
just
one
of
those
things
that
says
there
are
indicators.
I
listen
to
different
and
please
please
let
me
speak.
A
A
A
A
But
my
understanding
from
the
force
yourselves
is
that
we
can
do
this
in
an
incremental
way
throughout
this
year,
which
will
help,
am
I
afraid,
to
spend
all
of
that
out
of
this
reserve?
No.
This
is
not
some
sort
of
badge
that
I
have
to
wear.
Yes,
I've
fought
for
it
and
I
believe
the
reasons
are
good
reasons
and
I've
said
all
along
if
we
have
to
touch
it.
That
is
what
it's
there
for,
and
we
do
have
a
policy
that
it
will
be
put
back.
I
feel
safe.
A
I
I
feel
that
I've
done
my
part
in
this
journey
and
agree
or
disagree.
I
I
understand
everyone
can
have
different
opinions.
So
when
I
questioned
both
chief
different
ones
within
the
force,
there
seemed
to
be
an
an
appetite
and
a
a
triage
to
say.
Yes,
we
can
do
this
through
this
year,
but
we
need
them
this
year,
and
so
for
me,
that's
when
I
look
at
these
scenarios,
I
am
leaving
something
behind
that
will
have
to
be
restored.
A
So
for
me
I
think
the
scenario
of
we
already
have
some
being
added
we're
just
now
dealing
with
our
safety
procedures
and
that's
part
of
what
threw
things
off,
adding
many
all
at
once
that
we
lost
track
and
we
weren't
training
to
the
level
that
we
should
that's
everyone's
desire,
including
the
chief
and
so
I'm
interested
after.
I
say
this
and
thank
you
for
indulging
me.
I
know
this
is
a
little
bit
longer,
but
this
is.
This
has
been
a
real
deep
thing
for
me.
A
A
J
A
A
We
all
tightened
our
belts
one
year.
We've
got
our
raises
back
where
they
need
to
be,
I
think,
we're
doing
good
and
not
weighing
the
people
down.
I
think
we've
done
a
good
job
together
and
I
want
to
do
that.
I
want
to
finish
strong
tonight,
so
I
would
be
in
preference
of
waiting
with
that
staggering
thing
and
again,
as
I
mentioned
this,
I
I
received
a
favorable.
A
Yes,
we
can
do
that
because
it
gives
us
the
time
to
find
them
to
train
them
and
not
to
get
overwhelmed
to
get
all
of
these
things
done
to
prepare
for
them
and
still
get
it
done
within
this
year,
and
I
think
we'll
do
that
either
way.
So
I
think
it's
a
reasonable
way
that
everyone
I
talk
to
seem
to
be
open
to
I'll
end.
A
B
B
I
think
it's
important
austin
passed
away
july
15th.
Then
we
had
our
budget
hearings,
our
workshops
I
should
say-
and
before
we
set
the
millage
rate
to
what
we
have
now.
I
do
remember
suggesting
at
that
time
that
we
go
back
to
the
millage
rate
we
had
before
we
rolled
back
to
this
one,
and
it
was
not
entertained,
but
I
feel
that
during
that
time
we
did
not
consider
the
needs-
and
that
was
kind
of
concerning
to
me,
because
it
was
so
shortly
after
austin's
passing
and
we
already
knew
the
demands
that
were
being
asked.
B
So
initially.
I
had
kind
of
said
well
what,
if
we
do,
nine
on
october,
1st
and
9
april
1st,
and
that
was
feasible.
But
what
I
don't
want
to
get
is
what
we've
been
doing
since
I've
been
in
office.
Is
we're
constantly
kicking
the
can
down
the
road
and
we're
we're
doing
them,
we're
trying
to
staff
our
fire
department
in
steps,
but
by
the
time
we
get
to
that
second
step.
You've
already
lost
some,
whether
it
was
through
attrition
through
the
firefighters
leaving
because
they've
gotten
better
office.
B
Is
that
we
hire
them
and
we
have
this
expectation
that
they
have
to
fulfill
and
then
another
fire
department,
we're
training
them
and
another
fire
department
comes
along
and
offers
them
something
a
little
bit
more
better
than
what
we
are.
So
at
this
point,
there's
there's
some
issues
within
the
fire
department
that
we
need
to
address.
B
B
B
F
B
A
And
so
again,
for
me
funding
them.
I
agree,
and
my
question
is
because
of
what
you
told
me
that
it
would
be
overwhelming
to
have
them
all
at
once
in
the
year
versus
staggered.
So
that's
why
I
brought
that
up.
That's
why
I
even
had
brought
it
up
in
our
meeting
from
the
meetings
I
have
so,
if
you're
telling
me
different
now,
then
I
understand
that
the
bottom
line
is
it
it's,
it
will
be
funded.
C
Would
would
you
know
18
overwhelm
you
as
far
as
training
them
in
the
in
the
right
way
and
then
second,
I
think
question
was
brought
up,
is
about
losing
staff?
I
don't
know
that
we've
lost.
Could
you
maybe
explain
where
we've
lost
folks,
firefighters
to
other
departments?
I
didn't
know
that
we'd.
I
know.
H
H
H
G
But
I
think
that's
a
perfect
example
of
that
october:
1-
we're
not
spending
1.1
million
dollars.
If
we
actually
get
18
new
firefighters
by
the
end
of
next
fiscal
year,
I
would
be
shocked.
I
would
be
amazed
and
very
proud
of
everyone.
There's
I
just
don't
see
it
happening
with.
This
is
the
perfect
example
out
of
eight
people.
Two
of
them
didn't
show
up
or
didn't
want
this
and
maybe
found
somewhere
else.
That
is
incentivizing,
maybe
they'll
get
into
real
estate.
G
Who
knows,
but
the
problem
is
they're
not
following
through
on
this,
so
to
say
that
we're
spending
1.1
million
a
day
one.
It
would
be
awesome.
It's
not
happening,
though
I
think
it's
unrealistic
and
although
you
have
20
applicants
who
say
right
now,
which
ones
are
actually
feasible,
which
ones
can
pass
a
drug
test
which
ones
actually
go
through
our
filters
that
we
need
to
get
to
that
offer
time.
So
I
want
to
be
able
to
provide
you
and
the
department,
the
power
to
say
yeah.
G
Oh,
we
found
a
good
clump
of
five
that
we
want
to
hire
right
now
and
then
we,
you
know
a
couple
months
go
by
and
okay,
we
can
do
four.
Now
we
can
do
three
whatever
it
is,
instead
of
us
saying
nope
we
gotta
stick
to
that.
Not
till
march.
We
gotta
wait,
although
we
have
six
great
ones
that
are
ready,
we
didn't
budget
it,
and
now
we
can't
get
em
because
we
have
to
wait
till
march
now.
A
Is
that's
not
what
I'm
doing.
This
is
what
I
heard
in
feedback
to
say
this
would
work
both
for
what's
wanting
to
be
done
and
there
now,
if
you
tell
me
tonight,
no
it
really
doesn't
and
we
need
to
do
it
all
again.
My
willingness
is
there.
I
just
want
to
find
the
best
way
forward,
just
to
leave
a
good
fiscal
house,
and
at
that
point,
if
we
fund
that-
and
we
don't
anticipate
something
coming
that
we're
going
to
need
all
of
our
reserves,
we
don't
know
the
future.
G
H
G
A
Be
underinsured
in
that
sense,
that's
basically
the
way
I'm
looking
at
this.
This
isn't
just
extra
money
that
we're
just
leaving
there
that
we
could
really
use
if
it
is.
If,
because
I'm
doing
a
triage-
and
I
don't
have
a
clue
what
I'm
doing
in
that
sense,
I'm
saying
I'm
not
a
doctor,
but
I'm
being
asked
to
make
that
choice.
So
that's
where
I'm
depending
upon
you
after
basically
get
up
and
say
no.
We
need
this
all
funded
day,
one
and
here's
why
it's
there?
A
It's
already
there
taking
the
feedback
that
I
had
gotten
and
I
thought
everyone
would
say:
yeah,
that's
good!
If
we're
going
to
get
that
this
year,
then
we
can
do
it
in
those
steps
because
we
really
can't
handle
them
all
at
once
anyway,
because
of
the
training
because
of
getting
the
safety
officer
that
I
agree,
we
need
immediately
because
that's
the
start
of
this
whole
new
culture
that
everybody.
E
H
A
H
H
Me
answer:
I
think
the
whole
kind
of
it
will
answer
everything.
Hopefully
the
the
best
process
for
us
right
now
is
to
get
that
safety
officer
established
the
training
officer
established.
My
number
one
priority
is
to
make
sure
moving
forward
that
we're
providing
the
absolute
best
training
for
our
newest
recruits.
H
I
like
this.
The
kind
of
everyone's
thoughts
are,
we
all
want
to
get
to
the
same
place,
and
even
when
we
presented
when
I
presented
the
initial
budget
before
three
years
from
now,
we
needed
these
people.
We
need
18
people
you're,
giving
us
18
people
we're
gonna,
take
them
this
year,
damn
it
that's
the
final
line,
and
I'm
pardon
my
french,
but
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
it
the
right
way.
H
The
most
important
thing
about
austin's
initiative
is
doing
things
the
right
way
from
this
point
forward,
and
if
we
can
target
those
key
individuals,
we
can
time
it
with
new
graduates
from
the
schools
that
are
coming
out.
You
know
they
graduate
typically
in
december
and
in
may
and
go
target,
and
I
promise
you.
H
That's
not
the
way,
that's
not
the
apopka
way.
That
is
not
our
way
period,
but
moving
forward.
If
we
can
get
those
groups
hired,
you
know
the
orientation
is
coming
up.
That's
something
you
have
to
understand
it's
a
process.
It
is
a
lengthy
process,
something
we've
all
been
talking
about
working
on
with
some
of
our
our
committees
and
things
like
that
is
how
we're
going
to
have
orientation
we're
extending
it.
H
Now
it's
going
to
be
at
least
six
weeks,
if
not
eight
weeks
of
orientation
to
expose
people
to
a
lot
more
of
that
information
and
a
lot
of
times
having
18
people
in
that
six
week
period.
You
can't
get
a
lot
done.
You
can't
get
that
vital
information
out
there,
but
if
we
have
a
group
of
nine
and
we
can
really
hone
in
and
to
start
another
process,
we're
starting
is
a
mentorship
program.
H
Get
that
up
and
running
all
these
things
that
are
happening,
and
you
know
10
1
22
is
perfect
because
that's
when
oh,
no,
it's
not
only
two
weeks
from
now,
but
really
we
can
get
things
established.
That's
when
we're
getting
information
from
us
of
a
lot
of
stuff
that
we
need
to
the
blind
spots
we
talked
about,
but
to
train
them
appropriately.
I
think,
is
better
to
take
it
in
those
smaller
chunks.
C
C
Can
I
just
make
a
suggestion-
and
just
just
hear
me
out-
is
okay
we're
talking
about.
Obviously,
a
lot
of
these
kids
will
graduate
again
in
in
december
what
if
we
did
nine
as
of
october,
one
and
then
nine
as
of
january
one,
so
we
we
could
start
recruiting
in
december
when
these
kids
are
graduating
from
from
the
fire
schools
around
the
area.
We've
got.
Is
there
four
of
them?
Four
fire
schools.
C
We're
you
know,
we've
got,
then:
we've
got
two
sets
of
of
training,
we've
got.
We
can
really
hone
in
on
the
first
nine
we've
got,
we've
got
the
adequate
staff
to
train
those
nine
and
then,
as
we
get
into
january,
we've
got
a
new
set
of
recruits,
so
we
can
go
after
and
then
start
them
training
as
of
january
1st,
or
you
know
second,
whatever
the
third,
just
as
a
you
know,
maybe
a
tweak
on
on
where
we
are.
Does
that.
G
Which
I
so
I
understand
that,
but
at
the
same
time
I
don't
want
to
wait
till
january
1st
to
be
able
to
give
them
an
offer
letter.
I
want
you
guys
there
december
1st,
you
know
end
of
november
being
able
to
say
look
sure
I
have
a
million
dollars
backing
me
right
now.
I
can
hire
everybody
in
this
class.
G
It's
you
can
choose
that
timeline.
I
think.
That's
the
important
part
we're
not
spending
this
all
day.
One
you
get
to
choose
that
timeline,
then.
So,
if
that's,
what
is
most
comfortable
to
you,
how
you're
training
them,
how
you
bring
them
on,
where
it's
most
comfortable
for
your
health
and
safety,
your
training,
qa
guy
for
you,
you
can
control
that
timeline,
but
I
want
it
to
be
available
that
that's
kind
of
I
guess
my
advocacy.
I
want
it
to
be
available
so
that
you
can
say
we're
good.
G
F
Let
me
you,
commissioner,
you
can
make
that
happen
if
you
fund
it
the
way
you're
talking
about
mayor.
Will
you
say
january
1
we're
going
to
have
funding
for
nine.
If
you
bring
somebody
on
in
december,
or
do
you
recruit
in
december
for
that?
For
that
nine
there
is
still
the
ability
to
bring
to
bring
that
person
on,
because
you
have
to
go
through
a
process
to
be
able
to
bring
that
person
on.
So
I
will
tell
you
this.
However,
you
find
fun
nine
october
one
front
nine
january
1..
F
I
Well,
I
guess
the
way
that
I
look
at
it
and
the
reason
why
I
said:
let's
fund
them
all
now
is
because
you
say
it
takes
six
weeks.
So,
let's
say
october
1st
you
take
on
nine
in
the
six
weeks,
so
by
middle
november
those
six
are
done,
but
I'm
trying
to
understand
why
we're
waiting
to
december
we're
already
talking
about
how
young
our
department
is.
So
what
if
someone
was
already
experienced,
decide
that
they
want
to
come
to
apopka
we're
going
to
tell
them?
I
Well,
you
got
to
wait
till
november
to
december
or
january.
If
you
start
a
class
at
six
weeks,
you
can't
start
another
class
four
weeks
later
and
they
don't
have
to
start
the
same
place.
Then
you
got
one
group
group's
gonna
finish
in
six
weeks
and
two
weeks
later,
you
got
another
group,
that's
gonna
finish,
and
so
that's
why
I'm
saying
to
fund
it
all
at
one
time.
I
So
if
we
have
experienced
firefighters
coming
on
that
we're
not
waiting
for
the
new
recruits
that
we're
gonna
take
those
experienced
firefighters
as
well
that
we
need
in
order
to
support
our
our
fire
department.
So
I'm
still
saying
to
fund
it
all
and-
and
I
understand
that
we
may
not
hire
them
all
on
day
one
and
if
we
don't
their
savings,
is
there,
but
at
least
we
have
the
funding
in
place.
H
Just
and
just
for
clarity
understand
that,
even
if
they
come
from
an
outside
agency,
we
still
want
them
to
go
through
a
six-week
orientation
with
us,
and
in
order
to
really
accomplish
that,
you
know
we
there's
a
certain
number
of
candidates
that
we
would
like
to
send
through
that.
So
one
or
two
technically
trickling
in
three
at
a
time
is
tough.
You
know
to
host
an
orientation
if
that
makes
sense.
H
Yeah
I
mean
we,
I
mean
we
can
do
two,
but
it's
again
it's
just
one
of
those
we'd
rather
have
eight
nine
ten.
You
know
at
least
nine.
I
mean
I
think,
that's
a
good
number
just
to
provide
pulling
hose
replicating
certain
things
that
in
activities
that
we
need
to
replicate
when
we're
actually
doing
some
of
our
hose
evolutions.
Things
like
that,
it's
good
to
have
a
number
like
that
it
it's
it's
more
difficult.
If
that
makes
sense,
it's
doable,
but
what's
more
advantageous
is
a
larger,
a
larger
group
for
orientation.
G
G
If
you
find
a
candidate
that
is
just
awesome,
you
want
to
be
able
to
write
them
an
offer
right
then,
and
then
be
able
to
say:
okay
well,
you're
we're
starting
a
whatever
the
training
class
is
five
days
from
now,
whatever
it
is,
whatever
it
may
be,
so
funding
it
now
allows
you
the
flexibility
to
run
it.
How
you
want
to
my
concern:
we're
not
getting
nine
applicants
october,
one
we're
not
getting
nine
applicants
that
you
that
have
gone
through
our
filters
that
you
feel
are
qualified
january
1..
It's
all
about
timing!
A
F
We
can
do
that.
Commissioners
mayor
commissioners.
Let
me
add
this
as
well.
You
can
also
put
a
restriction
on
this
function,
so
you
could
say
the
1.2
million
dollars
budgeted
as
of
october
1,
but
it
will
only
be
used
for
those
positions,
so
any
savings
or
anything
that
is
generated
from
just
1.2
million
dollars.
You
can't
put
it
somewhere
else,
so
you
could
say
we're
on
budget
1.2
at
october,
1.
F
chief
will
will
make
offers
hire
people
on
as
you
know,
because
you
can't
hire
them
all
at
one
time.
You
won't
spend
the
full
1.2,
but
you
can
restrict
that
1.2
to
say
hey.
If
you
don't
spend
out
all
of
that
1.2
say
you
know.
If
there's
200
000
left
over,
you
can
leave
that
as
a
restriction
to
say,
you're
not
going
to
move
that
and
use
it
somewhere
else.
You're
only
use
it
for
those
fire
fires
that
you
hire
on.
F
A
And
again
I
I
I
can
go
either
way.
The
reason
that
I'm
bringing
this
up
is
not
to
be
nitpicky.
The
reason
is,
for
the
very
thing
that
we're
here
is
the
safety.
If
we've
got
a
bunch
of
young
recruits
that
aren't
trained,
we've
got
the
same
scenario.
That's
why
I'm
bringing
that
up.
If
we
need
to
do
those
in
incremental
ways,
that's
simply
what
the
feedback
that
I
got
it's
not
to
not
fund
them
or
to
make
us
wait
for
some
certain
way.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
doing
it
safe.
We
it's!
H
You
know
we're
talking
about,
and
hopefully
we
get
some
experience.
Obviously,
when
we're
looking
out
there,
but
you
know
it's
it's
as
if
we're
adding
18
now
we're
adding
not
an
eight
currently,
and
then
you
know
next
year.
This
does
not
include
station
six
ask
for
next
year
for
the
personnel
we're
gonna
need
for
that
as
well.
H
A
third
of
our
department
is
going
to
have
less
than
a
year
on.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
this
training
and
everything
we're
doing
from
this
point
forward
is
done
right
and
that's
my
biggest
worry
is
that
we're
making
sure
we're
doing
this
right
and
making
sure
that
these
recruit
classes
going
on
talking
to
the
guys
and
making
sure
that
that
we
want
to
establish
our
priorities
in
our
orientations.
What
are
we
really
addressing?
H
What
are
we
not
addressing
the
mentorship
side
of
things
all
that
stuff
comes
into
play,
so
I
think
it's
really
important
to
emphasize
that
as
well.
We
are
going
to
be
a
young
department
and
mo-
and
it's
not
just
us,
don't
you
know
it's,
it's
the
it's
the
the
fire
service
right
now,
the
central
florida
fire
chiefs
launched
the
other
day
that
it
had
a
150
vacancies
in
our
region.
It's
not
just
us,
you
know,
I
think,
a
lot
of
times.
That's
it's.
H
A
E
A
A
I
I
think
the
best
route
is
is
to
go
ahead
fund
them
all
if
we
need
to
restrict
it,
as
mr
bass
said
that,
if
whatever
is
not
used,
because
you
didn't
have
them
on
october,
1
that
those
funds
would
go
back
into
the
reserves,
but
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
fund
the
entire
18
as
an
october
one
and
then
just
restrict
whatever
funds
is
not
used.
It
cannot
be
used
for
any
other
purposes
other
than
hiring
these
18
firefighters.
F
B
B
B
E
L
L
L
L
L
L
It
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
me
and
I'm
not
a
commissioner,
I'm
not
the
city
administrator,
so
I
don't
know
about
the
budgets
and
how
their
inner
workings
and
all
that
stuff
works.
But
I
do
know
that
my
son
is
dead
and
he
is
dead
because
there
was
no
training
and
no
safety.
There
was
no
supervision
and
what
we
should
have
had
years
ago.
L
We
didn't
get
we're
promoting
right
now
with
inside
the
department
and
we're
oh
yeah,
we're
gonna.
Do
it
this
year
well,
yeah,
because
we
all
came
out
here
in
disbelief
and
because
my
son
died
because
of
lack
of
it
should
have
been
done
years
ago
and
we're
going
to
stay
here
and
talk
about
250
000
dollars
in
a
2-3
month
period.
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
You
want
to
shave,
250,
000
and
possibly
have
another
person
lose
his
life,
we're
not
overwhelming
the
department,
the
things
that
mr
bass
put
in
for
additional
things.
As
far
as
parking
lot
and
last
week's
meeting
was,
we
don't
have
enough
beds,
and
I,
sir,
am
the
one
that
made
the
comment
about
put
them
on
the
roof,
and
I
didn't
mean
that
literally,
but
literally
they
would
sleep
on
the
roof.
L
L
We
act
like
last
week
that
we
had
to
buy
a
thousand
beds
and
put
temporary
housing,
and
what
did
you
say,
a
bunk
house,
bunk
house,
a
bunk
house,
this
budget
proves
that
was
not
even
necessary,
and
that
was
what
was
interpreted
as
resistance
and
I'm
sure
that
mr
bass
is
not
resisting
this.
I
don't
believe
that
anybody
in
here
is.
L
There
is
no
amount
of
money
that
is
going
to
change
anybody
else's
mind
and
the
money
that
we're
talking
about
is
trivial.
You've
done
nothing
in
the
last
three
years:
no
training,
no
safety,
understaffed,
where's,
all
that
money.
What
did
that
go
to
buying
camp?
We
want
fixing
a
a
street
light,
where's
the
money.
L
L
L
K
K
You
can't
disagree
with
anything.
He
said
whatever
we're
talking
about,
we
can
fund
it
now.
We
can
stagger
it
out
so
that
we
can
handle
it.
It's
just
it's
interesting.
It's
it's!
It's
telling
to
me
that
you
know
when
it
came
here
in
july.
We're
we're
begging,
we're
pleading,
saying
we
need
these
training.
We
need
help
with
training,
we
need
help
with
safety
and
can
we
get
pushed
back
and
we
get
resistance
and
we
get
okay.
Well,
we'll
do
this
we'll
do.
F
K
K
Recorder,
okay,
so
I
mean
it
made
a
lot
of
people.
I
mean
you
can
read
the
room.
It
made
a
lot
of
people
pretty
itchy
when
this
thing
got
posted
up
the
other
night
and
we
all
assumed
the
original
six
spots
would
show
up
october
1st.
That's
just
what
I
assumed
happened
when
you
get
something
approved
in
the
budget
and
then
we
saw
it
was
set
for
march.
K
K
You
it
makes
you
a
little
nervous,
it
makes
you
uncomfortable
and
we
were
talking
about
filling
these
spots
because
it's
a
safety
issue.
You
got
to
listen
to
what
what
what
that
man
just
came
and
poured
his
heart
out
on,
and
how
do
you
turn
it
down
for
for
that
small
of
an
amount?
I
don't
think
that's
fair
to
anybody,
and
I
would
I
beg
you
to
listen
to
what
he
said
and
follow
through
with
that.
Thank
you.
J
J
J
J
Commissioner
nestor,
if
that
was
your
son,
how
would
you
want
to
be
treated
commissioner,
alexander
smith?
If
that
was
your
son?
How
would
you
want
to
be
treated
mayor,
nelson?
If
that
was
your
son?
How
would
you
want
to
be
treated
commissioner
banks
and
you
even
did
the
comparison,
and
you
still
had
issues.
J
Commissioner,
for
last
question:
if
that
was
your
son,
you
already
shared
your
sentiments.
What
you
would,
what
you
would
do
now
is
the
time
is
leadership.
I
have
never
heard
somebody
turn
down
money,
I'm
trying
to
give
you
money
to
fund
your
fire
department
to
get
everything
that
we
need
and
we're
still
fighting
about.
Turning
down
the
money,
heck,
the
fire
chief,
having
a
hard
time
accepting
the
money,
so
we
gotta
we
gotta.
We
got
a
major
problem
in-house.
J
Thinking
you're
going
to
get
different
results
doing
the
same
thing,
it's
not
going
to
happen
so
now
we
don't
listen
to
everybody,
come
up
here
and
say
what
are
the
flaws
that
we
have
in
in
in
the
fire
department
and
so
the
reason
why
they
got
there
is
because
the
leadership
we
already
had
in
place
we're
looking
for
that
same
leadership
to
pull
us
up
and
turn
us
around
we're
having
jobs
that
we
won't
post.
We
only
keep
them
on
the
inside.
J
So,
are
you
getting
any
other
vision,
no
you're,
getting
that
same
tunnel
vision
on
what
you
already
have
there?
Those
jobs
need
to
be
posted
outside,
so
we
can
get
the
best
candidate
to
move
us
forward,
it's
time
out
for
loyalty,
hiring
and
loyalty
staff.
It's
time
out
for
that,
when
we're
talking
about
mediocre,
no,
the
recommendation
is
for
forward
to
a
station.
That's
what
we
should
be
budgeting
for
four
providers
per
fire
engine,
every
safety
violation.
That's
been
noted
it.
She
should
be
budget
to
get
it
corrected
period.
J
J
C
E
E
C
D
One
yes
thank
you.
Resolution
number
2022-36,
a
resolution
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida,
adopting
a
non-ad
valorem
tax
assessment
role
for
the
west
kelly
park,
street
lighting
district,
providing
direction
to
the
finance
director
for
certification
and
transmission
to
the
assessment
role
to
the
orange
county
tax
collector
and
providing
for
an
effective
date.
C
B
C
N
C
N
Mayor
council,
this
is
for
the
level
terrace
neighborhoods
improvement
district.
This
is
a
district
that
was
created
because
the
hoa
went
under
and
has
abandoned
property
within
its
community,
and
the
city
has
having
to
take
over
the
maintenance
of
the
retention
pond.
The
rate
per
parcel
build
a
parcel
is
set
at
300
and
the
staff
recommendation
is
to
approve
the
resolution.
C
N
C
E
N
Mayor
commissioners,
soc
neighborhood
improvement
district,
that's
created
in
2014
to
install
the
fence
along
the
main
line.
Excuse
me
the
main
avenue
villas
subdivision
the
city
front
of
the
money.
At
that
time
the
loan
will
be
almost
paid
back,
so
we
will
be
rolling
back
the
amount
from
490
dollars
to
350
per
parcel,
and
this
will
be
to
maintain
the
wall
by
painting
it
and
also
the
upkeep
of
the
retention
ponds
within
the
development.