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From YouTube: Arcata City Council Meeting - 8/3/2022
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A
Good
evening
and
thank
you
for
joining
us
for
committee
interviews
being
held
just
before
our
council
meeting
this
evening
and
first
we
will
be
interviewing
one
candidate
for
the
parks
and
recreation
committee
and
then
we
will
move
on
to
two
candidates
for
the
historic
landmarks
committee.
So
we'll
start
with
parks
and
recreation,
and
I'd
like
to
welcome
our
applicant
jolly
earl.
A
So
thanks
for
being
here
and
yeah,
what
we'll
do
is,
I
will
I'll
start
with
an
opening
question
and
then
the
other
council
members
will
each
ask
a
question,
and
this
is
very
casual
and
if
you
could
just
limit
your
answers
to
around
a
minute
that
would
be.
That
would
be
great
and
yeah.
So
thanks
for
being
here
yep.
So
my
question
is
members
of
the
parks
and
recreation
committee.
Advise
the
city,
council
and
planning
commission
on
topics
related
to
recreation,
parklands
trails
and
public
facilities.
A
B
B
A
C
I
have
question
number
four
so
so
I
read
your
resume
and
you're
you've
done
a
lot
and
it's
really
exciting
to
have
you
apply,
and
I
really
appreciate
it
and
thank
you.
My
question
is:
please
share
an
example
of
a
successful
collaboration.
You
have
been
part
of
in
the
realm
of
parks,
recreation
or
community
building,
and
what
made
those
collaborations
successful.
Thank
you.
B
E
B
B
I
can't
remember
the
name,
but
there's
nothing
in
there
right
now,
and
I
know
that
that
just
came
up
for
consideration
by
the
city
to
see
how
we
could
you
know
what
kind
of
input
people
are
are
wanting.
What
are
people
are
wanting
to
see,
and
so
I
know
that
that's
going
to
probably
keep
happening
as
playgrounds
get
outdated
trails
need
to
be
upgraded.
B
G
B
Well,
probably
just
by
doing
their
homework
about
what's
happening
in
the
schools.
What
are
the
schools
doing
because
they
tend
to
lead
area?
You
know
playgrounds,
I
think
maybe
maybe
rec
leads.
My
impression
is
that
if
we
learn
from
the
schools
that
are
at
the
bottom
ground
working
with
children
and
older
children,
then
we
could
find
ways
to
keep
playgrounds
upgraded.
You
know
and
then
also
looking
at
ada
and
the
other
things
that
need
to
be
looked
at
for
building.
A
D
A
A
So
welcome
to
both
of
you
and
thank
you
for
for
coming
and
the
way
we
when
we've
got
more
than
one
candidate.
What
we
do
is
we
go
back
and
forth.
So
we'll
start
first
with
with
dr
cooper,
we'll
ask
you
the
first
question
and
then
daniel
you'll
get
to
answer
that.
Second,
when
we
get
to
the
next
round,
you'll
get
to
go
first
and
in
that
way,
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
start
with
the
first
opening
question,
and
so
this
will
be
to
dr
cooper.
H
Current,
let's
start
today,
currently
I'm
a
board
member
of
the
historical
site
society
of
arcata.
I've
been
involved
for
25
years
and
in
with
respect
to
my
interests
and
activities
with
historic
landmarks
with
the
city
started
out
as
a
docent.
When
I
was
in
college,
you
know
at
the
historical
site,
society
and
and
interpreted
various
victorians
and
so
forth
for
various
functions,
and
that
was
way
back
then,
and
since
then,
I've
gotten
degrees
and
various
subjects
like
bachelor's
degree
in
history,
minors
and
anthropology
phd
in
archaeology,
stuff,
like
that.
H
That
has
helped
a
lot
and
I've.
Also
I've
done
two
things:
I've
straddled,
two
worlds
of
the
world
of
archaeology,
which
I've
been
a
career
professional
for
20
years
and
but
at
the
same
time
I
have
straddled
at
first
I
started
doing
you
know
when
I
was
in
graduate
school,
I
you
know
I
would
split
my
time
between
the
mediterranean,
which
was
a
key
archaeological
focus
in
humboldt
county,
because
I
couldn't
leave
it.
My
heart
strings
were
planted
as
an
undergraduate.
H
I
don't
know,
you've
probably
met
people
just
like
me.
My
heart
strings
were
planted.
I
couldn't
leave
it
alone.
So
I
did
cultural
resource
management
here
and
I
have
been
doing
that
for
20
25
years
as
well,
when
which
you
know,
which
is
includes
all
sorts
of
archaeology
with
native
peoples,
but
it
also
includes
the
evaluation
of
historic
structures
in
the
city.
I
had
the
great
pleasure
to
work
on
many
occasions
with.
H
I
don't
know
if
you
know
her,
but
to
me
she's
renowned,
susie
van
kirk,
and
you
know,
she's
really
written
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
we
still
use
today,
for
you
know,
interpreting
and
understanding
or
to
have
to
stop
soon.
Probably
so,
I'm
on
a
roll.
It's
you
know.
My
heart,
like
I
said,
is
with
this
city,
and
it's
time
you
know,
I
I
take
all
this
education
and
all
this
experience
and
start
giving
it
back
to
the
city,
and
so
that's
that's.
Why
I'm
here.
A
I
I
I
G
I
G
H
Actually,
I
think,
we're
on
the
same
page
he
and
I
other
than
the
gateway
project,
which
seems
to
be
in
the
forefront
of
you
know
of
everything
in
the
city
right
now
for
a
lot
of
good
reasons,
and
I
know
that
interpreting
you
know,
historical
structures
in
that
particular
area
is
of
prime
importance.
But
beyond
that
I
mean
I
certainly
know
you
know.
H
H
Sorry
is
I'm
currently
working
on
researching
land
use
throughout
time
of
contact,
ie,
creating
chains
of
title
working
with
the
working
with
the
the
humboldt
county
records
office
and
so
forth,
and
creating
these
incredible
histories
of
the
transfers
of
properties
and
so
forth
since
the
beginning.
So
anyway
resources.
I
got
your
resources.
E
H
Well,
the
good
news
is,
is
I
don't
have
to
decide
those
things
because
they're
already
there's
a
basically
a
legal
agenda
in
which
we
need
to
to
follow.
It
has
to
be
so
many
years
old.
It
has
to
represent,
not
just
it
can't
just
be
50
years
old
or
or
more,
but
it
you
know
it's.
It
can
represent
something
very
particular
special
for
its
time.
H
So
the
the
federal
government
has
a
whole
series
of
criteria,
and
you
know
california
state
you
know
office
also,
has
you
know
input
with
respect
to
how
we
define
these
things
and
how
we
identify
these
things?
Yes,
everything
has
a
little
bit
of
subjectivity
right,
I
mean
that's
the
way
life
works
so,
but,
within
that
very
you
know
clear
framework,
that's
offered
by
the
feds
and
the
state.
H
I
think
my
experience
helps
me
to
figure
out
what
yeah
the
decisions
that
I
might
recommend
and
again,
ultimately,
I
think
it's
been
my
job
in
all
my
positions
to
make
recommendations
more
than
it
is
to
make
decisions,
and
I
would
use
that
same
approach
in
this
committee.
You
know
recommending
to
my
fellow
community
members
who
would
then
in
turn
recommend
amazing
yeah,
so.
E
C
I
H
I
think
I
touched
on
a
little
when
I
was
speaking
responding
to
a
different
question,
and
I
have
this
this.
This
city
has
been
this
county.
This
city
has
been
really
good
to
me.
It
has
provided
me
a
home.
It
started
my
my
my
career,
my
education,
I've
acquired
so
much
knowledge
about
the
history
of
this
city
and
its
structures.
H
F
So
you
know
infills
one
of
our
big
goals
in
the
city,
and
you
know,
I
think,
usually
a
lot
of
people
agree
that
the
best
place
for
infill
is
around
a
downtown
area.
So
it's
convenient
for
people,
so
they
can
walk
and
eliminate
the
need
for
cars,
but
we've
also
designated
some
properties.
Historic
kind
of
you
know
around
the
downtown,
like
the
chapman
house
as
an
example.
So
how
do
you
you
know
balance
that?
How
do
you
make
that
trade
off
between
saying?
H
Well,
I
excuse
me,
I
think,
that's
interesting,
because
that's
a
question:
that's
that
most
cities
with
historic
structures
ask
and
one
of
the
things
that
is
being
done
in
a
lot
of
cities
with
dense
historic
centers
is
the
re
reassignment
of
use
of
those
structures
that
are
already
there
you
can
you
can
infill,
you
can
build
structures
around
those
structures.
You
don't
necessarily
take
away
from
the
importance
of
a
structure
by
building.
You
know
mother-in-law
units
or
even
you
know,
various
other
things
or
in
in
the
lands.
H
H
F
H
I
I
think
I
understood
okay
you're
looking
for
so
briefly,
there's
only
so
many
old
buildings,
historic
buildings,
and
I
I
want
to
keep
as
many
of
them
as
we
can
because
they're
part
of
who
we
are
it's
part
of
our
history
and
even
there's
some
older
buildings
which
look
like
you
know.
Maybe
they
live
their
life
and
and
it's
time
to
you,
know,
move
on
to
something
else.
I
A
Usually
you
just
kind
of
have
to
evaluate
potentials
of
conflict
of
interest
all
the
time
and
we
can
still
serve,
but
you
just
have
to
be
aware
and
careful
of
that
and
know
when
to
recuse
yourself
or
when
to
maybe
you
know
not
write
something
that
would
be
a
conflict.
So
that's
really
a
personal
decision
up.
You
know
up
to
you
in
those
situations,
but
it's
pretty
much
a
case
by
case
I
don't.
We
all
have
the
opportunity
for
conflicts
as
well
yeah.
I
J
A
I
I
A
A
Good
evening
and
thank
you
for
viewing
the
august
3rd
meeting
of
the
arcata
city
council,
the
city
council
meeting
is
being
held
as
a
hybrid
meeting,
with
both
in-person
attendance
and
teleconference
access
via
zoom.
Our
first
item,
which
is
new
to
our
agenda
this
evening,
is
a
land
acknowledgement.
A
J
A
Thank
you.
If
you
wish
to
make
a
comment
during
the
meeting,
either
at
the
two
open
public
comment
periods
or
for
an
individual
agenda
item,
there
are
three
ways
to
do
so,
if
you
are
here
in
person,
please
line
up
behind
the
podium
when
the
item
you
would
like
to
speak
on
is
accepting
public
comment.
If
you
are
logged
on
to
zoom
click,
raise
your
hand
when
it
is
time
for
public
comment
on
the
item.
You
wish
to
speak
on.
A
A
So
if
you
are
wanting
to
comment
and
please
line
up
at
the
podium
or
raise
your
electronic
hand
as
soon
as
public
comment
is
requested
for
that
item,
so
first
we
have
early
oral
communications
and
this
the
city
council,
values
your
comments.
This
15-minute
time
period
allows
people
to
address
the
council
on
matters
that
are
not
on
the
agenda.
Please
know
that,
pursuant
to
the
brown
act,
the
council
cannot
discuss
or
take
action
on
items
that
are
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
A
At
the
end
of
all
oral
communications,
the
council
may
respond
to
statements
supported
supported,
requests
that
require
council
action
will
be
set
for
a
future
agenda
or
referred
to
staff.
Speakers
may
be
limited
to
two
minutes.
There
will
also
be
a
time
for
cub
for
public,
to
comment
specifically
on
each
agenda
item
and
again
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
under
item
12.,
so
just
to
clarify
we're
we're
going
to
go
back
to
a
previous
way
for
the
earl,
the
the
first
early
oral
communication.
A
So
we
we
won't
do
it
this
week,
because
I
wanted
to
give
everybody
a
heads
up
as
to
what
we're
doing,
but
we've
got
numbers
that
are
over
on
this
on
the
city
clerk's
desk,
and
so
what
we'll
do
is,
if
you
are
someone
that
wants
to
speak
on
early
oral
communication
when
you
get
to
chambers,
you
should
take
a
number.
We
will
have
four
available
for
in
person
and
then
we'll
leave
four
slots
open
for
online.
A
If
we
don't
have
four
in
person
or
four
online,
we'll
we'll
borrow
we're
not
trying
to
limit
anyone,
we're
just
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
stay
within
that
15
minutes.
If
we've
got,
you
know,
12
people
and
everybody's
keeping
it
brief
30
seconds,
we'll
hear
all
12.
so
really
we're
just
trying
to
create
an
orderly
process.
So
next
week,
when
you
get
here,
you
can
all
run
up
and
fight
for
numbers
to
be
first,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
open
that
so
we'll
start
with
joanne.
A
K
I
my
name
is
joanne
mcgarry,
as
you
know,
but
I
want
people
who
don't
know
to
know
that
I
sometimes
go
by
mcgretta,
because
I
believe
the
climate
reality
is
first
and
foremost
the
thing
we
should
be
recognizing
and
acknowledging
in
our
community
and
working
towards
mitigating
and
adapting
to.
So
I
just
want
to
remind
you
that
the
city
of
arcata
did
declare
a
climate
emergency
way
back
in
september
of
2019
need
to
revisit
that.
We
need
to
maybe
re-declare
it
as
we
oftentimes
do
for
this
covet
pandemic.
K
So
I
just
want
to
just
say
the
climate
is
number
one,
but
I
also
do
want
to
let
you
know.
I
appreciate
the
acknowledgement
that
you
just
read
mayor
about
the
we
at
and
it's
about
time
that
we
did
that
and
let's
keep
doing
it
and
let's
do
it.
You
know
always
with
fervor
to
remind
us
about
that.
So
I'm
running
out
of
time.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Bye.
K
C
J
M
Yes,
good
evening,
anna
romero,
I'm
fred
wise,
the
july
26
planning
commission
transcript,
is
on
the
website.
Arcata1.Com.
It
has
a
new
feature
with
a
table
of
contents
of
about
20
items.
You
can
click
on
one
of
the
items
and
go
right
to
that
section
of
the
planning
commission
meeting
to
save
you
time
or
if
you
just
want
to
look
at
a
specific
thing.
M
M
M
The
letters
that
the
city
has
been
receiving
about
the
gateway
are
now
online,
which
is
great
they're
only
going
to
be
supposed
well.
It
says
they're
going
to
be
updated
every
two
months,
which
is
not
so
good.
I
have
some
suggestions
for
how
that
can
be
improved.
I
think
if
an
efficient
process
were
in
place,
it
could
be
done
quickly.
M
I
can
volunteer
to
help
if
necessary,
but
they
can
just
be
amended
to
any
existing
pdf
and
then
they'll
be
up
to
date.
I
did
talk
to
the
developer
in
santa
cruz,
I
mentioned
the
building
in
santa
cruz
that
I
like
they
do
not
build
up
here.
I
got
confirmation
that
it
is
pricey.
I
got
some
dollar
figures,
they
do
have
architectural
services
and
I'll
make
the
point
that
good
design
does
not
necessarily
have
to
cost
money.
There's
a
lot
of
features
that
building
which
could
be
incorporated
at
not
large
cost.
M
F
E
N
Good
evening
greg
daggett,
a
few
weeks
ago,
I
read
an
article
in
the
lost
coast,
outpost
on
the
creekside
projects
that
I'm
sure
you're.
All
aware
of
that
was
a
pretty
extensive
process
that
you
went
through
to
you
know,
basically
have
senior
housing
and
also
housing.
That
would
also
when
they
had
problems
with
their
health,
and
this
was
something
that
was
very
important
to
the
city.
N
I
was
really
shocked
to
read
what
actually
happened
with
that
with
the
the
university
basically
offering
about
double
the
amount
that
was
being
negotiated.
So
I
don't
know
what
happened
to
the
university's
moral
compass
than
that,
but
that
was
something
that
really
showed
their
true
colors.
This
is
the
second
project
that
the
city
has
has
basically
lost
the
first
one
was
sort
of
you
know
we
kind
of
said
the
community
was
giving
them
a
hard
time
and
didn't
quite
work
out.
N
N
So
I'm
a
little
concerned
because
I
haven't
really
heard
anything
too
strong
from
the
city
about
this
and
you
know
they're
they're,
pretty
powerful
organization.
We
got
a
lot
of
people
that
you
know
get
jobs
later
on
down
the
road
with
the
university
and
with
government
positions
here.
So
I'm
a
little
concerned
that
that
you
know,
where
is
the
outrage
you
know?
This
is
something
that
was,
you
know
a
done
deal
and
it's
not
anymore.
So
I
really
would
appreciate
a
response.
Thank
you
would.
F
A
A
Okay,
so
next
we'll
go
to
the
consent,
calendar
and
all
matters
on
the
consent.
Calendar
are
considered
to
be
routine
by
the
city
council
and
are
enacted
in
one
motion.
There
is
no
separate
discussion
of
any
of
these
items
if
discussion
is
required,
that
item
is
removed
from
the
consent,
calendar
and
considered
separately.
At
the
end
of
the
reading
of
the
consent,
calendar
council,
members
or
members
of
the
public
can
request
that
an
item
be
removed
for
separate
discussion.
A
So
we
have
a
approve.
The
meetings
of
the
city
council
meeting
of
june
22
2022
b
approve
the
minutes
of
the
city
council
meeting
of
july
11
2022
c
approved
the
minutes
of
the
city
council
meeting
of
july
20th
2022
d
by
bi-weekly
report
on
disbursements
e
declare,
a
continuation
of
the
local
emergency
related
to
the
coronavirus
pandemic.
A
Technology
manager
to
deputy
director
information
technology.
Adopt
resolution
number
223-11,
a
resolution
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
arcata,
amending
the
resolution
establishing
and
authorizing
supplemental
compensation
and
benefits
from
management
and
confidential
employees
to
reflect
title
changes.
H,
award
a
construction
contract
for
the
arcata
storage
tank
1c
project
to
mercer
frazier
company
and
the
amount
of
3
million
390
975
dollars
authorized
the
city
engineer
to
increase
the
contract
amount
by
up
to
three
million;
oh
thousand
sorry,
seven
dollars
and
fifty
cents,
which
is
ten
percent
for
a
total
of
three
million.
A
A
I
approve
a
purchase
contract
with
owen
equipment
for
one
vector
impact
combination,
machine
in
the
amount
of
367
thousand
dollars,
500
sixty
seven
thousand
five
hundred
and
five
dollars.
Seventy
eight
cents,
including
tax
and
freight
authorize
a
cost
increased
for
up
to
ten
percent;
thirty,
six
thousand
seven
hundred
fifty
dollars
and
fifty
eight
cents
for
contingency
for
a
potential
cost,
a
total
potential
cost
of
four
hundred
and
four
thousand
two
hundred
and
fifty
six
dollars
and
thirty
six
cents
and
authorized
the
city
manager
to
execute
all
applicable
documents.
A
Jay
approve
a
purchase
contract
with
jack
doheny
company
for
one
sewer,
camera
van
with
one
can
software
and
the
amount
of
299
929.89,
including
taxes,
and
freight,
and
authorize
the
city
manager
to
execute
all
applicable
documents,
k
direct
the
city
manager
to
execute
the
three-year
cal
poly
humboldt,
ridership
agreement
and
future
amendments.
With
the
city
of
arcata,
l
adopt
resolution
number
223-08,
accepting
a
fee
title
interest
in
assessor's
parcel
number:
it's
apn
505-251-011.
A
From
humboldt
state
university,
real
estate
holdings
or
successor
and
interest
and
m,
adopt
resolution
number
223-12,
a
resolution
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
arcata,
responding
to
the
humboldt
county
civil
grand
jury
report
entitled
the
sea
also
rises.
Would
any
council
member
like
to
remove
any
items
from
consent.
M
A
F
Yeah
first,
I
just
wanted
to
say
it's
always
nice
when
you
know
what
sometimes
things
take
a
lot
of
time
to
get
through
the
city,
and
so
it's
nice
to
see
it.
You
know
when
you
plant
a
seed
and
they
come
to
fruition
and
so
yeah.
You
know
just
really
elated
that
we
were
finally
able
to
do
the
land
acknowledgement
so
item
a
the
minutes
of
the
june
22nd
meeting
on
page
21
of
the
agenda
packet.
A
P
C
A
R
F
Where
it's
talking
about
the
report
out
from
the
closed
session-
and
it
says
on
motion
by
stillman
seconded
by
shaffer
and
with
the
unanimous
voice
vote,
the
council
confirmed
that
all
information
and
communication
about
the
driscoll
litigation
shall
be
made
through
the
city
attorney's
office,
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
that's
legal.
If
that
was
a
legal
vote,
you
know
my
understanding
was
that
there's
actually
state
law,
you
know
allowing
their
attorney
to
contact
elected
officials.
So
I
was
hoping
we
could
get
another
opinion
on
that
from
the
city
attorney.
C
C
F
Yeah,
basically,
I
I
accidentally
did
a
reply
all
so
I
did
apologize
for
that
and
again
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
you
know
based
off
of
the
communication
through
the
the
driscoll's
attorney
that
it
was.
You
know.
Basically
that
was
something
that
we
did.
That
was
legal.
So
thank
you
for
clarifying
that.
T
V
U
F
W
Yes,
the
staff
report
is
based
on
council's
adoption
of
the
2022-2023
budget.
It
included
approval
of
position
and
organizational
changes
in
the
environmental
services
department
and
the
I.t
division
of
the
city
manager
office.
The
action
before
you
tonight
formalizes
those
changes
as
it
regards
assigning
titles
and
salary
ranges
within
the
city's
overall
classification
and
compensation
plans.
W
W
X
W
W
W
This
position
took
on
several
other
duties.
It's
not
is
not
registered,
but
a
lot
of
the
duties
that
can
be
performed
under
a
registered
professional
forester,
and
we
have
found
through
the
transition
with
that
director
position
that
it
it
is
best
served
to
have
this
position,
maintain
those
duties,
and
then
we
will
contract
out
for
the
professional
forester
as
needed.
W
W
So
we
are
splitting
out
the
the
requirements
for
to
maintain
the
state,
certifications,
maintained
and
obtained,
and
this
new
position
in
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
will
now
serve
as
be
the
one
to
be
licensed
and
serve
as
the
chief
plant
operator
for
our
wastewater
operations.
So
they
will
now
be
overseeing
wastewater
operations
and
maintenance.
W
In
addition
to,
we
have
a
current
position
that
manages
our
accredited
lab
and
as
well
as
our
regulatory
compliance
for
the
plant
and
this
position,
that
position
is
now
being
eliminated
and
it
those
duties
are
being
obtained,
are
being
put
into
this
new
position.
In
addition
to
being
the
certified
wastewater
treatment,
plant
manager.
F
A
C
F
A
F
Y
So
I'll
go
ahead
and
give
a
just
a
little
brief
background
on
this,
so
I
will
start
by
saying
this
is
a
great
project.
It's
it's
a
new
water
tank,
a
million
gallon
water
storage
tank
for
for
the
city
and
it's
a
project.
I
guess,
as
I
assume
it's
been
on
the
books
for
about
three
years,
we've
been
talking
about
it.
We
have
we
increased
our
water
and
sewer
rates.
I
guess
a
couple
years
ago
for
large
infrastructure
projects
just
like
this
to
help
pay
for
this.
Y
We
also
have
a
grant
an
iig
grant,
for
I
believe
it's
a
little
over
a
million
dollars
that
goes
towards
this
project
as
well,
and
it's
been
on
the
cip
for
the
last
two
years.
I
believe
so
it's
it's
primarily
a
water
storage
tank,
but
there's
also,
I
think,
around
2200
linear
feet
of
new
pipe
water
line
that
connects
the
tank
to
our
main
main
system.
F
Okay,
yeah,
you
know,
I
just
noticed
this
in
all
the
contracts
where
we
do
this
contingency,
so
this
one
is
10
and
it's
just
not.
You
know
maybe
a
mistake,
and
it's
just
not
something
that
you
really
see
a
lot
in
the
private
sector.
It
seems
like,
and
I'm
just
wondering
you
know
basically
saying
we'll-
approve
an
additional
340
thousand
dollars
on
top
of
what
you
quoted
us
it
just
I
don't
know
it
just
kind
of
seems.
F
Y
So
every
project
varies
and
they're
all
different,
there's
always
risks
depending
on
the
type
of
projects
with
a
lot
of
underground
projects.
We
have
no
idea
what's
underground
to
a
degree,
and
so
we
never
know
what
to
expect,
and
so,
if
we
award
for
just
the
contract
amount-
and
there
are
any
changes
that
need
to
happen,
then
everything
needs
to
come
back
to
council.
Y
It
holds
up
construction,
it
there's
just
lots
of
impacts,
as
a
result
of
that,
so
we
typically
try
to
budget
knowing
that
there's
potential
for
those
with
the
hopes
of
not
using
that
contingency,
but
knowing
that
it's
there,
if
we
do
so
again,
it
varies
depending
on
the
project's
larger
projects.
We
typically
reduce
the
contingency
because
the
amount
is
still
pretty
high,
but
on
smaller
projects
we
use
a
larger
contingency,
because
you
know
20
percent
of
even
a
small
amount,
doesn't
really
cover
you
too
much,
depending
on
on
what
repairs
and
what
changes
are
needed.
T
The
current
proposed
purchase
of
a
new
vac
truck
doctor
impact
combination
vehicle
will
replace
the
other
vector
truck
within
the
city's
fleet,
which
is
non-compliant
with
the
california
air
resources
board
emissions
requirements
and
would
need
to
undergo
costly
retrofits
to
remain
in
service.
So
environmental
services
staff
believe
that
a
new
vehicle
purchased
is
better
and
more
worthwhile
enduring
investment
for
the
city's
fleet.
P
I
I
can
mention
it's
not
completely
common
for
us
to
have
a
contingency
on
a
vehicle
purchase.
This
is
being
purchased
on,
what's
called
a
cooperative
purchase
agreement,
so
these
are
costs
that
are
approved
through.
Basically,
the
state
or
another
governmental
entity
has
done
a
formal
bid
process
and
it's
created
a
list.
That's
that's
allowed.
The
cooperative
purchase,
so
we
have
reached
out,
and
the
price
that
is
quoted
in
the
staff
report
is
current.
P
G
P
C
T
C
Z
Z
Z
C
F
A
K
K
Let
us
hope
that
community-wide
it
will
be
accessible
to
everyone
and
we
can
figure
out
the
quote:
cost
per
person,
but
not
necessarily
have
it
be.
You
know
an
individual
needing
to
pay
such
a
cost
and
so
that
we
can
subsidize
it
and
incentivize
it
and
promote
it
in
again,
this
climate
consciousness
that
we
need
to
have
as
we
move
into
the
future.
K
So
I
think
proving
this
right
now
today
is
totally
understandable,
but
take
these
types
of
concepts
with
these
annual
agreements
with
the
university
and
all
as
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
make
it
more
systemized
and
just
you
know
not
necessary
to
keep
going
through
these
kind
of
motions,
because
we're
going
to
just
need
incentivized
and
free,
hopefully,
public
transit
for
everybody
going
forward.
So
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
put
that
in
there
and
it's
no
comment
on
this
current
item,
but
I
just
think
it's
important
that
we
don't
just
business
as
usual.
A
T
Sure
so,
since
2019
the
city
has
been
working
toward
acquisition
of
the
subject
parcel,
which
includes
a
public
access
easement
to
the
subject
parcel
across
a
portion
of
the
adjacent
parcel
where
the
city
currently
holds
a
public
utility
easement.
The
city
council
authorized
the
city
manager
to
enter
into
a
purchase
and
sale
agreement
in
february
of
2022.
T
So
this
resolution,
accepting
the
property,
is
one
of
the
last
steps
in
the
process
to
complete
the
real
property
acquisition.
It
is
expected
that
escrow
will
close
in
september
22
september
2022,
and
therefore
the
recommendation
is
to
adopt
resolution
223-08,
accepting
a
fee
title
interest
in
apn
505-251011.
T
D
C
I
pulled
that
because
I
was
looking
at
page
147
at
the
bottom,
very
last,
one
where
it
says
several
contaminated
sites
and
I
and
they
have
the
southern
pacific
railroad
in
arcata.
I
think
that's
supposed
to
be
eureka
and
I
think
it's
the
balloon
truck
that
they
mean
because,
as
far
as
I
did
some
research,
I
called
some
people
on
it
and
they
said
they.
We
don't
have
a
southern
pacific
railroad
track
and
we
have
tracks,
we
don't
have
a
yard.
C
C
C
F
G
Z
So,
just
to
answer
your
question:
2009
levy
project
was
funded
by
fema
and
it
included
putting
levy
around
the
wastewater
plant
and
around
the
clock
lake
that
was
impacted
by
a
heavy
storm.
It
was
funded
through
fema,
and
that
was
my
first
project
in
the
city
of
arcata.
That's
what
I
remember
yeah
that's
been
complete.
Z
C
Possibly
you
remember
that,
because
that
was
a
time
that
you
couldn't
go
out
to
the
marsh,
because
it
was
all
closed
off
because
they
were
raising
the
dogs
and
they
were
also
raising
the
islands
in
the
middle
of
clop
lake
and
then
eventually
and
they
smoothed
out
all
the
walkways.
They
had
gotten
really
very
humped
in
the
middle
and
through
that
process
they
smoothed
it
out
and
made
it
walkable
for
everyone
and
for
wheelchairs.
G
P
They
are
sort
of
the
regionally
accepted
maps.
I
mean
one,
as
you
probably
saw
reading
through
this.
One
of
the
big
recommendations
from
the
grand
jury
was
just
for
regional
collaboration,
so
you
know,
fortunately,
there
has
been
substantial
collaboration
around
sea
level
rise
mitigation
around
humboldt
bay,
so
these
responses
are
consistent
between
so
the
county
and
the
city
of
rick
and
arcadic
collaborated
on
our
response.
P
F
P
P
F
C
One
other
thing
I
was
thinking
about
that
was
relevant
is
that
we
have
the
reclamation,
district
and
caltrans
reclamation
district.
Maybe
it
was
five
years
ago,
maybe
a
little
longer
when
they
rebuilt
that
whole
recreation
district
and
it
sort
of
tore
up
the
road
when
they
were
doing
it
out
there,
and
then
we
have
the
caltrans
mitigation,
that's
happening,
which
is
out
in
that
same
area
on
the
b
street
loop.
F
F
Then
I
just
want
to
add
a
second
yeah.
You
know
I
missed
the
reading.
This
was
out.
I
was
ill,
and
so
I
wasn't
part
of
the
conversation,
but
just
looking
at
the
findings,
I
disagree
with
the
response
to
finding
three
that
the
council
made
that
you
know
feel
it
says
diverse
array,
local
state,
federal,
tribal
stakeholders
involved.
It
should
not
be
assumed.
Creating
a
new
regional
governmental
entity
will
be
the
most
effective,
efficient,
just
approach
or
just
approach
to
regional
collaboration.
F
D
A
A
Z
Yes,
good
evening
again
mayor
vice
mayor
council,
member
member
of
the
public
member
in
the
zoom
and
member
of
the
staff
good
evening,
so
this
item
in
front
of
you
is
our
residential
rental
inspection
program.
City
has
been
working
on
this,
for
I
would
say
at
least
two
to
three
years
with
me
today
I
have
joe
bishop,
our
building
official.
He
will
be
doing
most
of
the
presentation
and
going
over
the
overview
of
the
program.
We
also
have
ed
layla
from
akira
fire
department
because
they
have
a
similar
program
for
the
apartment.
Z
So
if
there's
any
question
he'll
be
answering
and
if
there's
any
other
legal
question
we
have
nancy
diamond
on
the
zoom,
call
it
if
it
comes
up,
but
if
it
doesn't
come,
but
that's
great.
So
just
I
will
give
you
just
background
and
then
I'll
hand
it
over
to
joe.
So
this
program,
as
I
said,
we've
been
working
on
this
for
last
two
to
three
years
at
the
direction
of
the
council
and
late
last
year.
Z
We
brought
this
item
in
front
of
you
and
it
when
we
brought
to
a
second
reading
council
directed
us
to
get
more
feedback,
because
there
were
a
lot
of
public
comments
at
the
meeting.
So
council
directed
us
to
seek
more
input
to
the
program
and
bring
it
back.
So
we
took
that
direction
and
we
worked
with
the
public
and
we
created
a
working
group
for
the
residential
rental
inspection
program.
That
working
group
consisted
of
nine
members,
which
was
a
very
diverse
group,
included,
tenants,
landlords
residents
advocate
for
tenants
and
everybody.
Z
So
with
that
nine
group,
we
met
with
them
over
five
month
period
at
least
five
times
at
the
end,
not
everybody
was
on
the
same
page,
but
we
made
the
program
better
than
it
was
so
when
we
brought
it
early
on
it
needed
improvement.
So
we
took
those
feedbacks
and
the
audience
which
is
in
front
of
you.
You
will
see
all
the
a
lot
of
edits
that
those
are
based
off
all
the
comments
that
we
see
from
working
group
and
the
public
and
the
staff.
So
we
are
ready
to
introduce
this
as
any
ordinance.
Z
We
believe
it's
not
perfect.
Perfect,
it
will
need
improvement
as
we
go
so
in
next
one
or
two
years
as
we
start
implementing
the
program,
we
will
learn
we'll,
learn
some
lessons
and
we'll
bring
it
back
to
you
and,
if
there's
room
to
improvement,
we'll
improve
them.
So
with
that
I'll
just
hand
it
over
to
joe,
he
will
go
over
just
over
with
the
program
and
at
the
end
you
can
answer
the
questions.
Thank
you.
AA
You
got
that
for
me,
okay,
hello,
thank
you
for
having
me
and
thank
you
for
having
everybody,
it's
good,
to
see
a
lot
of
faces.
Once
again,
my
name
is
joe.
Some
of
you
know
me
some
of
you
don't
very
happy
to
be
here
and
present
this
program,
so
we
have
a
powerpoint
here,
I'm
not
going
to
read
it
verbatim.
I
believe
that
it
will
be
available
if
anybody
has
specific
questions.
AA
Essentially,
the
goal
of
this
program
is
driven
by
a
long-standing
reputation
of
classic
university
town
having
substandard
housing
and
a
lot
of
people
get
complaints.
Council
members,
city
managers,
department,
heads
staff,
neighbors
fire
department,
so
the
program
is
the
goal,
is
to
address
those
programs
are
problems
in
a
in
a
proactive
manner.
Currently,
all
code
enforcement
is
complaint
driven,
and
so,
when
people
complain
we
respond.
AA
One
of
the
the
questions
that
came
up
in
regards
to
when
you
looking
through
the
ordinance
there
are
exemptions
to
the
program,
specifically
definition
up.
There
is
talking
about
the
transient
occupancy
tax
and
what
that
applies
to
and
that's
any
unit
that
is
for
longer
than
30
state
30,
day
duration.
So
the
term
transient
occupancy
refers
to
less
than
30
days.
Any
unit
that
is
subject
to
the
transient
occupancy
tax
will
not
be
subject
to
this
program.
Likewise,
we
mentioned
the
arcata
fire
department.
They
have
thank
you.
AA
AA
So
essentially,
one
of
the
comments
and
the
concerns
that
was
brought
up
by
the
public
by
the
working
group
is
the
cost
of
the
program,
and
so
we
did
a
lot
of
number
crunching
and
made
some
estimations
on
the
number
of
units
that
are
subject
to
this
program
and
essentially
the
the
cost.
The
annual
cost
for
the
administrative
side
of
it
is
going
to
be
twenty
dollars
a
year.
AA
Originally,
I
think
we
had
forty
dollars
a
year,
so
we
were
able
to
justify
cutting
that
in
half
and
essentially
the
goal
is
that
all
of
the
units
that
are
subject
to
this
program
will
be
eligible
eventually
to
get
into
the
self-certification
program,
which
is
ultimately
once
they
get
into
that
program.
They
do
their
own
inspections
once
a
year
and
they're
only
going
to
pay
the
twenty
dollar
a
year
fee.
AA
AA
Once
again,
ed
is
here
and
specifically
we're
talking
about
r1r2,
our
ones,
our
hotels,
motels
r2,
our
buildings,
individual
buildings
that
contain
three
or
more
dwellings,
so
the
flowchart,
essentially
the
first
phase
of
this
program,
is
the
first
three
years
where
all
program
all
units
will
register
and
the
top
of
the
flow
chart.
There
describes
how
they're
going
to
go
through
the
process
they
register
for
the
property
they
get
the
inspection.
AA
Hopefully
everybody
passes
and
gets
a
certificate
and
then
the
at
the
end
of
the
three
year
period.
They
are
given
the
option
to
either
go
back
to
the
beginning
and
start
the
three-year
cycle
over.
If
they
don't
want
to
do
the
self-inspections,
they
don't
they'd,
rather
just
pay
the
city
to
get
the
inspection
every
three
years.
That's
fine
we're
happy
to
do
that
then.
After,
if
you
know,
they've
successfully
managed
to
get
through
phase
one.
The
second
phase,
there's
basically
the
option
to
continue
the
regular
program
or
do
the
self-certification
program.
AA
AA
AA
It's
a
one-time
inspection
fee
which
is
listed.
Can
you
go
to
the
next
slide?
So
this
is
self-certification
so
that
one
to
two
units
or
three
or
more
units
per
property
there's
the
registration
fee
per
year.
Then
the
one-time
fee
is
the
inspection
either
73-29
or
83-29,
and
then
the
administrative
fee
to
get
into
the
program
forty
dollars.
E
AA
Very
good
question:
there
are
some
very
unique
situations
where
there
will
be
units
that
are
on
a
property
that
are
not
covered
by
the
fire
department
inspections,
so
that
is
only
there
for
those
edge
cases.
There
were,
I
believe,
two
or
three
properties
that
were
identified
that
might
fall
under
that
category.
Some
properties
have
a
building
on
the
property
that
will
be
inspected
by
the
fire
department,
so
those
units
will
be
exempt,
but
there
are
other
units
on
the
same
property
that
do
not
get
inspected
by
the
fire.
So
that's
why?
That's
there?
C
That's
very
true
with
the
historic
structures
in
arcata
there's
many
of
the
older
houses
that
people
took
away
the
front
yards
and
they
put
additional
housing
in
them,
and
so
we
have
that
throughout
arcata
and
spots
here
and
there
and
the
fire
department
does
not
look
at
them.
They
walk
away,
it's
not
even
in
their
scope,
even
though
they
are
on
the
property.
AA
Yeah,
so
this
program
is
definitely
intended
to
fill
the
gaps,
but
not
duplicate.
We
will
be
obviously
ads
here.
We
will
answer
questions
for
for
the
fire
department,
but
from
my
perspective,
it's
my
goal
to
develop
a
relationship
with
the
fire
department
and
invite
them
to
properties
that
we
have
questions
about
and
make
our
services
available
to
them
for
properties.
They
have
questions
about.
So
this
will
definitely
be
cool
collaborative
effort
to
improve
the
community
as
a
whole,
but
we're
not
asking
people
to
do
both
programs.
J
AA
Thank
you
so
inspections,
like
I
said
in
the
first
phase,
you're
going
to
register
and
you're
going
to
get
an
inspection
and
then
you've
got
that
covers
the
three
year
period.
If
you
want
to
re
up
and
do
the
three
year
cycle,
no
problem,
every
three
years,
you'll
get
the
inspection
city.
Does
the
inspection
the
owner
operator
does
not
have
to
do
any
self-certification
if
the
owner
operator
desires
to
do
self-certification,
a
lot
of
the
people
in
the
working
group
express
they
already
do
their
inspections
every
year.
AA
So
the
goal
is
to
get
them
into
that
program.
Allow
them
to
do
their
self-certifications
and
we
will
still
do
a
an
inspection
every
five
years.
That
was
one
point
that
was
asked
to
be
clarified.
So
I
just
want
to
say
very
clearly:
the
ordinance
is
written
where
what
to
get
into
the
self-certification
program,
they
will
pay
for
the
first
inspection
to
show
that
they
are
eligible
for
the
program.
AA
We
will
do
inspections
every
five
years
thereafter,
but
they,
the
owner
operator,
will
not
have
to
pay
for
additional
inspections
as
long
as
they
stay
eligible
for
the
self-certification
program.
So
we
will
still
inspect
properties,
but
we're
we're
trying
to
reward
the
many
tenants.
Many
operators
out
there
that
have
good
tenants
and
have
good
properties
and
maintain
them.
So
really,
the
goal
is
to
show,
like
I
said,
to
have
a
collaborative
effort
to
show
that
there
are
lots
of
good
rentals
to
assure
tenants
that
are
coming
to
a
new
unit.
They
can
say.
AA
There
was
quite
a
few
questions
about
the
passage
of
ascent
assembly
bill
838,
and
that
is
specifically,
it
directs
city
governments
to
respond
to
code
enforcement
complaints,
so
we
have
already
been
in
compliance
with
ab3838
before
it
was
ever
adopted
and
we
will
still
continue
to
be
anytime.
Anybody
calls
with
a
complaint,
we
will
respond
and
we
are
compliant
with
ab-838.
AA
C
Scott
I'd
like
to
ask
another
question:
so
you
have
some
rental
agencies
and
they
manage
a
lot
of
properties
and
one
of
them
who
I
asked
who
is
on
your
committee,
manages
a
hundred
units
and
cell
phones.
She
inspects
them.
I
think
three
times
a
year.
So
how
do
you
and
let's
say,
they're
many
property
owners?
How
does
that
work
then
you're
going
to
be
each
yes
pay
for
each
one
of
those
and.
AA
AA
Will
keep
records
to
get
into
and
stay
in
the
self-certification
program?
You
will
be
required
to
keep
copies
of
yourself,
certifications
on
hand
for
the
past
five
years
and
at
any
point
anybody
can
from
the
city
or
the
tenant
can
request
access
to
those.
So
if
we
get
a
complaint
and
we're
looking
into
it,
we
might
ask
a
manager
owner
operator
to
present
their
inspection
records
for
the
last
five
years.
AA
We
will
provide
a
form
and
in
fact
it's
we're
trying
to
use
the
same
form
that
our
our
inspector
will
use
when
they
show
up
to
do
their
inspections
will
be
the
same
form
that
will
be
provided
to
owner
operators.
It's
a
one-page
form,
it's
really
the
basics,
really
basic
life
safety
stuff.
We're
not
here
to
talk
about
paint
color
or
you
know.
AA
AA
A
Well,
and
just
I
want
to
make
sure
I
have
it
right
also
to
clarify
I'm
council
member
stillman
for
you
as
well,
but
if
even
to
get
into
the
the
self-certified
program,
you
do
have
to
have
an
initial
inspection
correct.
So
there
will
be
an
initial
inspection
that
says
that
the
that
the
dwelling
is
in
good
standing
and
then
the
assumption
is
that
the
manager
owner
will
keep
it
up.
But
then
there
will
be
every
five
years
you
will
be
popping
in
for
an
inspection,
that's
not
charged
if
everything
goes
well
correct,
right.
AA
AA
AA
AA
Information
will
be
gone
out
and
press
releases
and
we're
going
to
explore
other
media
options
for
ways
to
let
everybody
know
if
assuming
this
gets
power,
hopefully,
as
this
gets
passed
so
then,
basically,
there
will
be
a
time
period
where
the
effective
date-
and
there
will
be
a
six
month
period
once
the
effective
date
begins
properties
have
six
months
to
apply
and
and
get
into
the
program.
So
we're
intending
to
give
people
plenty
of
time,
and
we
can
go
on
to
the
next
one
I
think
yeah.
AA
So
there
were
a
few
topics
that
were
brought
up
by
the
working
group
and
by
other
community
members
that
were
not
able
to
implement
into
this
program.
This
is
just
some
examples.
We
have
a
longer
list
and
things
that
you
know
either
might
be
appropriate
for
their
own
program
or
might
be
something
that
could
be
implemented
into
this
program
in
a
future
date.
AA
Just
for
example,
several
people
felt
like
owner
occupied
properties
with
a
second
unit,
oftentimes
called
an
auxiliary
dwelling
unit.
They
felt
those
should
be
exempt
currently
as
it's
written.
They
are
not
rooms
if
an
owner
owns
a
house
and
rents
out
rooms.
That's
not
considered
part
of
this
program,
but
if
it's
a
separate
dwelling
unit,
it
would
still
be
in
this
program.
We
can
consider
options
for
that.
AA
I
like
the
idea
of
the
tenants
council.
You
know
a
group
of
tenants
representing
each
other,
so
those
that's
what
this
last
page
is-
and
I
believe
that's
our
oh
yeah.
So
essentially,
you
know
like
I
was
just
saying
we
we
understand
and,
as
nature
pointed
out,
this
is
not
a
perfect
ordinance.
We
do
strongly
believe
it's
a
better
ordinance
than
we
presented
originally,
and
we
asked
for
the
opportunity
to
improve
the
program
as
it
goes
and
part
of
how
we
want
to
accomplish.
That
is
to
provide
metrics
and
updates
to
the
council.
A
A
AA
I
am
currently
available
to
the
public
at
our
counter
any
day,
any
normal
business
day
between
one
and
two,
and
I
will
continue
to
make
that
time
available
for
this
and,
if
that's
not
enough
time,
I'll
expand
those
hours.
But
I
that
is
a
time
that
I
set
aside
to
be
available
for
the
public
or
for
anybody
else.
That
wants
to
discuss
this
or
any
building
related
issues.
A
A
And
then,
oh,
just
as
as
for
the
cost
like,
I
appreciate
that
we
that
we
lowered
the
cost,
because
I
know
that
we
actually
can't
make
money
on
the
pro
programs.
We
can
cover
the
costs.
However,
that
was
also
our
intention
with
the
with
the
vacation
rental
ordinance
that
we
had
and
then
it
was
too
low
and
we
had
to
raise
it
to
cover
our
costs.
A
So
I
would
just
ask
that
we
really
keep
track
of
that
and
then,
if
it's,
if
we're
not
making
ends
meet
because
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
be-
you
know
making
money
on
this.
So
if
we're
breaking
even
super,
but
if
we're
not
if
it
could
come
back
to
council,
so
we
could
correct
that
before
we
lose
too
much
revenue
agreed,
and
then
I
do
my
last
thing
is.
A
G
You
thank
you.
I
know
that
there's
been
more,
I
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
work
put
into
this.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
sorry
I
don't
have
reading
glasses
on
and
the
writing
is
really
small.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
did
take
out
the
part
that
that
you
can
recover
the
fees
from
the
tenants,
so
the
tenants
will
not
have
to
be
responsible
for.
AA
G
AA
E
E
Actually,
probably
a
little
bit
of
both
and
maybe
even
nancy,
I
don't
know,
I
got
a
lot
of
questions.
No,
so
I
just
wanted
to
ask
because
but
see
now,
you're
here
a
person
that
I've
never
seen
or
met
before
so
so
it's
a
good
sign,
but
I
know
that
we
had
the
concern
before
that
we
might
not
have
the
staffing
or
have
enough
people
in
the
building
department
to
be
able
to
implement
something
like
this.
AA
Yes,
thanks
for
asking,
as
far
as
building
department
staff,
we
do
have
a
third
full-time
position,
that
is
part
code.
Compliance
part
permit
tech
and
has
been
specifically
the
the
main
person
who
has
been
working
on
getting
this
program
together
and
their
job
description
and
job
title
includes
the
actual
inspection
of
these
units,
with
training
and
supervision
from
myself.
E
That
is
great
to
hear,
and
so
then
my
other
question:
what
is
kind
of
the
teeth
behind
the
fire
department
inspections?
Just
from
personal
experience,
you
know
I've
gotten
a
door
tag
and
never
saw
anybody
again,
and
so
just
you
know
kind
of
wondering-
and
this
might
be
then
a
question
for
both
of
you.
Just
what
you
know
is
the
teeth
behind
that
and
how
to
get
people
into
compliance
and
that
you
know
how
do
we
get
the
inspections
to
be
on
equal
levels?
AA
AA
Obviously,
the
fire
department
is
most
concerned
with
fire
and
life
safety
elements
which
we
are
also
concerned
with.
Our
directive
goes
a
little
bit
beyond
that.
So
in
some
respect,
you're
correct,
we
do
have
a
little
bit
more
of
a
checklist
probably
than
the
fire
department
has,
which
is
why
we
would
like
to
make
our
services
available
to
the
people
who
do
the
fire
department,
inspections
to
help
collaborate
and
so
that
people
who
are
funding
these
programs
feel
like
they're,
getting
the
value
that
they're
paying
for.
AC
Our
inspections
for
the
the
r1zr2s,
hotels,
motels
and
apartments
were
mandated
by
the
state
to
perform
those
inspections,
and
we
have
to
do.
We
have
to
have
100
compliance
annually
for
them,
and
we
have
to
show
that
to
the
state
and
our
board
that
we
do
those
our
scope
is
for
the
common
areas
of
those
facilities.
AC
AC
Our
value
is
to
provide
that
to
the
the
tenants
of
the
individual
apartments
to
get
in
to
verify
that
they
have
the
correct
life
safety
appliances
that
are
required
in
the
facilities.
So
when
we
go
through
there,
that's
basically
what
we're
looking
for
we're
not
looking
for
any
other
issues.
The
building
department
might
see.
If
we
do
see
something,
that's
the
egregious.
We
do
notify
them
specifically
for
it.
AA
And
also
to
answer
your
question:
there
is
a
section
in
here:
I'm
not
going
to
read
it
out
to
you,
but
just
to
point
out
section:
8504
is
specifically
to
address
enforcement
and
non-compliance.
So
there
are
measures
in
there
specifically
for
this
program
to
help
us
enforce
these
actions,
if
necessary.
AA
Absolutely
great
question:
a
lot
of
that
will
fall
under
how
we
utilize
technology
to
track
and
record
and
document,
and,
of
course,
there's
always
the
potential
that
things
will
fall
through
the
cracks.
I'm
sure
there
are
things
out
there
that
have
fallen
through
the
cracks.
The
goal
is
to
implement
this
program
in
such
a
way
that
it
makes
it
like
you
had
described
as
clear
and
understandable
to
the
community
as
possible,
so
that
conformance
with
these
requirements
is
not
as
daunting
as
it
could
be.
AA
AA
It
could
go
as
far
as
administrative
citations
and
those
could
end
up
being
liens
on
the
property
and
obviously
we
would
hope
to
reach
out
to
the
tenants-
and
you
know
if
we
can
verify
that
everything
is
safe
and
it's
really
just
a
matter
of
getting
the
operator
to
conform.
It
would
probably
just
be
administrative
if
there
are
life
safety
issues,
we
have
codes
and
laws
that
allow
us
to
con
essentially
condemn
a
building.
If
it's
unsafe,
to
occupy.
E
Okay,
great-
and
that
leads
me
perfect
into
my
next
question,
which
is
about
in
section
8504.1
under
the
public
nuisance
section
I
just
kind
of
have
a
concern
about
so
basically,
if
something
is
declared
a
nuisance,
that's
that
is
grounds
for
eviction
in
a
lot
of
cases.
Correct,
and
that
just
my
concern
is
that,
because
it
does
say
here
not
in
lieu
of
remedies
provided
for
by
the
state
or
federal
law
in
this
code,
and
so
just
kind
of
wondering
how,
in
this
basically
case
that
something
does
fail.
E
AA
Absolutely
great
questions
happy
to
talk
about
it
and
what
I
will
use
to
talk
about.
It
is
what
I
do
have
experience
with.
Since
obviously
we
haven't
started
this
program.
I
I'm
not
certain
how
it
will
go,
but
I
can
address
nuisance
code
enforcement
that
has
happened
very
very
rarely
would
result
in
the
relocation
of
a
tenant.
AA
It
would
take.
You
know
serious
life
safety
issues
which
could
happen.
You
know
fire
hazards,
carbon
monoxide
hazards,
other
types
of
things,
and
that
usually
would
be
a
an
issue
that
is
so
egregious
that
the
owner
operator
is
going
to
know
that,
as
required
by
law,
that
they
would
need
to
relocate
the
tenant
so
in
the
very,
very
rare
circumstances
where
a
tenant
might
need
to
be
relocated.
AA
In
my
experience,
the
owner
operator
is
quite
aware
of
that
requirement
by
state
law
and
tends
to
want
to
follow
the
law.
No,
that
is
not
very
likely
that
a
tenant
would
ever
have
to
be
relocated.
If
corrections
were
found.
The
corrections
I
would
expect
to
find
on
a
regular
basis
would
be
missing.
Smoke
alarms
missing
carbon
monoxide
alarms.
AA
There
will
absolutely
be
grace
periods
given
to
help
people
comply
water,
heater
installs
that
we're
not
done
properly
we're
not
going
to
do
an
investigation
on
every
improper
water
heater
to
find
out
if
they
got
it
permitted
or
not.
That's
not
our
goal
for
this
program.
The
goal
is
to
look
for
the
life
safety
issues.
E
F
So
we
received
a
letter
from
a
residential
rental
inspection
program,
working
group
member
by
the
name
of
dave
hochman,
and
he
seems
like
he
really
did
an
outstanding
job,
just
kind
of
outlining
the
ordinance
and
kind
of
pointing
out
some
issues
with
it,
and
I
guess
my
first
question
is:
how
come
this
letter
hasn't
been
blue
folded?
It
seems
like
we
received
it
yesterday.
F
A
F
F
That
said,
the
united
states
supreme
court
held
administrative
searches
by
municipal
health
and
safety
inspectors
constitutes
significant
intrusions
upon
interests
protected
by
the
fourth
amendment
and
such
searches
when
authorized
and
conducted
without
warrant
procedure
lack
traditional
safeguards.
Excuse
me
black
traditional
safeguards,
which
the
fourth
amendment
guarantees
to
individuals.
F
AC
This
is
near
and
dear
to
my
heart.
You
know
we
have
to
deal
with
that
on
a
regular
basis.
Fourth,
amendment
illegal
search
and
seizure.
Each
one
of
these
tenants
or
owners
that
are
gonna
will
be
inspected.
It's
just
like
the
apartments
and
hotels
motels.
We
do.
We
have
to
gain
consent.
Before
we
can,
we
can
do
a
physical
inspection.
If
we're
told
no,
we
have
to
walk
away,
but
we
have
to
have
that
if,
if
they
don't
give
us
consent,
then
we
can
take
different
or
further
steps
to
go
further
with
it.
AC
AA
Any
retroactive
fee
would
not
go
beyond
the
date
that
this
code
becomes
effect,
or
this
ordinance
becomes
effective.
Okay.
So
after
the
six-month
period,
if
a
property
is
identified
that
is
required
to
comply,
does
not
comply,
they'll
get
a
letter,
and
that
mechanism
is
in
there
so
that
the
longer
they
go
without
complying
the
larger
the
fee
gets
and
hopefully
realizing
that
they're,
incurring
a
larger
penalty
of
fee
would
encourage
them
to
comply
sooner
than
later.
Hopefully,
so
no,
it
would
never
go
beyond
before
the
date
of
the
adoption
of
this
ordinance.
Okay,.
F
Great
and
then
you
know
the
opinion
that
none
of
the
fundamental
values
of
the
general
plan
articulated
by
the
required
implementation
measures
have
been
included
in
this
ordinance.
And
you
know
this
ordinance
is
not
in
service
of
the
stated
goals
of
approving
housing
quality
in
the
general
plan.
I
was
wondering
what
you
think
about
that.
F
AA
F
So
yeah,
you
know
this
kind
of
came
up
a
couple
meetings
ago
too,
with
some
comments
about
the
the
gap.
Just
you
know
this
concern
by
members
of
the
public.
It
comes
from
our
committees,
the
planning
commission,
that
you
know
that
they
feel
like
that
staff,
isn't
always
doing
what
they're
being
directed
to
do,
and
you
know
so.
This
public
comment
is,
you
know.
F
You
know
the
staff
was
kind
of
doing
their
own
thing,
and
these
are
just
contin.
You
know
complaints
that
we
continue
to
get
project
after
project,
and
I
just
I
want
to
know
what
the
council
feels
about
it.
You
know
it
just
seems.
Like
you
know.
I
raised
this
at
the
last
meeting.
I
had
examples
of
misconduct
and
you
guys
said
you
don't
want
to
talk
about
it.
So
you
know.
G
What
at
what
point
do
we
do
that?
As
far
as
this
goes,
I
think
that
we
directed
the
staff
to
form
a
working
group
which
they
did
and
come
back
with
a
very
edited
and
better
solutions.
I
feel
like
the
community
was
involved
a
lot.
This
is
not
the
final
say.
I
think
that
this
is
just
another,
meaning
that
we're
going
to
put
it
back
on
you
to
you
know,
do
some
more
additions
and
subtractions
and
probably
go
back
to
your
working
group.
I
feel
like
the
staff
has
been.
A
Yeah-
and
I
think
that
I
think
that
steph
does
typically
do
as
directed
to
the
best
that
they
can,
and
there
will
always
be
no
matter
how
many
meetings
or
how,
how
well
staff
does.
I
think
that
there
will
always
be
people
that
feel
that
it's
not
enough,
and
so
that's
when
we
have
to
make
that
decision
as
if
we
feel
like
that,
it's
enough.
E
I
think
we
saw
it
two
or
three,
maybe
even
four
times
back
then,
and
now
this
is
the
first
time
in
about
what
eight
eight
months,
six
eight
months
that
it's
been
brought
back
to
us.
I
I
would
be
more
than
happy
to
you
know-
maybe
not
approve
this
tonight
and
can
keep
you
know
open
till
our
next
meeting,
at
least
to
have
that
public
comment
open,
because
it's
now
back
in
people's
eyes,
they're
saying:
oh,
yes,
this
is
happening
again.
We
remember
it.
Let
it
get
out
in
the
news.
E
A
little
bit
so
we
can
get
those
comments
because
that's
the
only
you
know
public
comment
letter
I
received
this
time
around,
and
so
you
know
just
to
make
sure
hey
we're
not
a
meeting,
it's
back
just
so
the
public
knows
about
it.
If
they
are
unhappy,
they
can
reach
out
to
us,
but
I
especially
feel
with
this
particular
ordinance
that
we
really
have
you
know,
hit
the
ground.
It's
great
to
see
a
table.
You
know
full
of
people
that
weren't
necessarily
part
of
this
conversation.
E
To
begin
with,
when
we
were
working
on
this,
it's
great
to
have
the
fire
department
here
at
the
table
with
us
to
talk
about
it,
and
I
think
that
staff
has
done
a
really
great
job,
making
the
edits
and
reflecting
I
mean,
if
you
yeah,
the
writing.
Writing
is
small,
like
you
said
meredith,
but
you
know
reading
through
these
changes
and
really
seeing
the
thought
process.
E
There
are
probably
are
some
people
from
that
working
group
that
were
unhappy
with
the
process
or
the
outcome,
but
that's
the
only
letter
from
somebody
on
the
working
group
that
we
got,
which
you
know
really
reflects
to
me
that
that
process
was
valuable
and
people
you
know
got
something
out
of
it
and
had
a
good
experience
with
staff
and
with
the
public
participating
in
that.
So
I'm
really
happy
with
what
staff
has
done
with
this.
I
definitely
was
a
little
hesitant
with
this.
E
G
F
Yeah,
I
think
it's
great
that
you
know
we
have
so
much
support
for
the
staff
and
I
agree:
95
of
our
staff
is
absolutely
outstanding,
but
just
like
in
any
organization
you
know,
you're
gonna
have
you
know
bad
apples
and
I
feel
like
we
have
confirmation
bias
here.
I
feel
like,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
elected
to
put
the
public
first,
the
needs
of
the
public
first,
not
to
protect
you
know,
mistakes
and
misconduct
by
the
staff
and
to
do
no
investigation
whatsoever.
F
C
So
I
would
like
to
you
know
you
know.
Fortunately,
if
we
don't
have
the
number
of
grow
houses
that
we
used
to
have
in
arcata,
and
this
program
would
have
been
excellent
because
we
would
have
been
able
to
identify
all
them,
not
just
through
pg
e,
knowing
how
much
money
people
had
to
spend
spend.
I
did
get
somebody
made
a
recommendation
in
one
of
the
emails
I
got,
and
that
was
the
housing
department
up
at
humboldt
state.
C
AA
AA
I
would
love
to
see
every
home
or
operator
post
it
in
their
window
as
a
badge
of
honor
that
they
have
their
rental
inspection
certificate.
So
we
will
absolutely
I'm
hoping
that
with
a
software
we
can
make.
You
know
some
kind
of
either
map
or
list
or
approved.
You
know
some
kind
of
way
to
make
it
available
so
that
anybody
could
look
up
a
property,
that's
for
rent
and
see
that
it
is
in
the
program
and
compliant.
A
Yeah,
it
might
be
a
following
item,
but
we'll
see
I
just
had
one
really
teeny
tiny
question,
and
then
I
do
have
a
suggestion
about
how
we
might
consider
moving
forward
on
on
the
inspection
list
on
item
in
exterior
1.11
when
it
calls
for
screens
to
be
present
and
undamaged.
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
could
explain
like
why
this
is
important.
I
just
know
that
I'm
sure
many
of
us
have
damaged
or
missing
screens
in
our
homes
and
and
exactly
so
it
you
know
what.
Why
is
that?
Like?
AA
Primarily,
it's
insect
vector
mosquitoes.
Some
people
might
have
b
allergies,
things
like
that
that
it's
a
it's
a
vector
issue,
and
you
know,
obviously
that
is
a.
I
would
consider
that
to
be
a
relatively
minor
violation
and
it's
certainly
not
something
that
we
would.
You
know,
drag
somebody
through
the
mud
so
to
speak
on
something
like
that.
But
of
it
is
on
the
list
so
that
it
can
be
noted.
And
if
that
is
one
of
many
corrections,
then
we
would
hope
that
that
gets
addressed.
A
That
makes
sense,
so
I
believe
the
last
time
we
did
this.
We
did,
we
did
vote
to
introduce
the
ordinance
and
then
it
went
to
the
second
meeting
and
that's
where
it,
you
know,
got
publicity,
because
we
we
made
that
motion
and
then
we
had
the
people
show
up.
So
my
suggestion
and
you
you
cannot
handle
it.
A
A
G
A
N
I
have
about
this
program
would
be
one
what
about
the
people
that
never
got
permits
for
their
secondary
dwellings,
their
add-ons
their
house?
It
seems
like
they're
not
going
to
be
volunteering
to
have
the
city
come
around
and
check
on
these
things,
so
it
could
be
that
you're
just
creating
a
program
where
there
are.
You
know,
sort
of
the
people
that
were
already
doing
the
right.
N
You
know
either
they
had
family
members
or
they
were
trying
to
make
a
little
bit
extra
money
to
you
know
pay
their
mortgage,
so
I
don't
think
you
guys
are
going
to
do
that,
but
it
still
opens
the
question
to
you
know
joe
wasn't
around
to
check
on
how
that
electrical
was
done
in
the
wall
or
the
plumbing
and
and
how
are
you
dealing
with
that?
So
it's
sort
of
I
think
the
program
is,
has
good
intentions.
It's
just
that.
N
AD
AD
We
struggled,
but
we
got
it
actually
from
joe
and
tell
me
if
I
say
this
wrong:
in
the
last
five
years
there
have
been
17
written
notices
of
possible
violations
that
went
out
of
the
17
15
were
complied
with
voluntarily
after
the
notice
two
went
all
the
way
to
abatement,
meaning
that
the
building
department
operating
under
current
terms
has
a
100
success
rate.
That's
pretty
good.
Before
we
change
anything.
AD
We
only
found
out
at
the
fourth
meeting
that
the
fire
department
inspects
every
residence
above
two.
I
don't
know
from
this.
I'm
still
not
clear
that
they're
exempt
from
inspection
fees,
but
are
they
exempt
from
registration
fees
they're
exempt
from
everything,
so,
if
you're
being
inspected
by
the
fire
department,
you're
exempted
from
registration
and
inspection?
AD
AD
AD
It
was
included
with
your
with
your
letter.
It
lays
out
voluntary
flexible.
The
trouble
is,
is
the
presentation
is
saying
you
something
that
is
not
written
to
the
gen
into
the
ordinance.
The
ordinance
has
very
specific.
Shall
commandments,
you
shall
be
penalized.
Twenty
percent.
You
shall
be
declared
a
public
nuisance.
AD
This
is
so
far
a
departure
from
what
was
stated
in
the
general
plan
that
it
is
the
opposite.
I
agree
that
you
don't
get
to
do
everything
in
the
general
plan.
There
are
goals
that
you
can't
make,
but
this
is
such
a
radical
departure
that
I
hope
you
kick
it
down
and
get
some
more
public
input
because
you
didn't
get
it
all
from
the
working
group.
Thank
you.
M
M
M
Has
to
do
with
information
given
to
the
tenants,
and
it
says
such
information
shall
be
developed
by
the
director-
that's
struck
out.
I
want
to
know
what
information
does
have
to
be
given
to
the
tenant.
It
seems
like
it
would
be
handy
if
the
director
did
develop
a
sheet
that
we
could
pass
out
to
the
tenants.
M
Where
the
tenant
may
request
an
inspection
at
any
time
outside
the
scheduled
inspection
when
it
says
at
any
time,
couldn't
a
tenant
ask
for
one
inspection
a
a
week
or
one
inspection
a
month
or
five
inspections
a
year
or
something
you
just.
Is
there
a
time
limit
on
how
frequently
the
tenant
can
ask
for
an
expect
inspection
and
then
the
section
where
it
says
after
making,
documented
and
reasonable
attempts
to
work
things
out
with
the
owner?
Why
is
that
struck
out?
M
M
I
concur
with
the
mayor
that
older
houses
can
often
not
have
screens
and
be
very
difficult
to
put
screens
on
there's
a
lot
of
casement
windows,
all
over
sunny
bray,
they're
difficult
to
put
screens
on.
I
think
the
mosquitoes
will
only
travel
about
20
feet
from
where
they're
born,
so
the
make
an
attempt
to
keep
standing
water
to
see
any
standing
water
to
spill
it
out.
That
keeps
the
mosquitoes
down
thanks
very
much
and
look
forward
to
your
comments.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
so
at
this
time
we
can
ask
for
clarification
or
questions
or
make
a
motion.
I
did
as
we
you
know.
As
we
say
when
we,
when
we're
reading
after
public
comment,
we
you
know,
sometimes
people
bring
up,
really
good
points
and
we
might
want
to
you
know
further
those
and
so
just
to
offer
clarification.
A
No
final
decision
would
be
made
tonight.
So,
even
if
the
council
does
choose
to
introduce
the
ordinance
it
would
not
go,
it
would
not
go
into
an
effect
until
after
being
voted
on
again
in
a
second
meeting.
So
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that,
but
I
did
have
a
question
regarding
with
the
gentleman
first
gentleman
who
spoke
and
up
and
talked
about
the
unpermitted
spaces,
which
you
know
we
know
they're
out
there.
So
could
you
address
that.
AA
AA
There
are
plenty
of
buildings
that
were
built
before
city
of
arcata
had
records
of
buildings
and
when
they
were
constructed,
so
we're
certainly
not
interested
in
pursuing
investigations
on
every
unit.
You
know
we're
we're
going
to
make
the
assumption
that
it
is
a
permitted
unit
and
we're
going
to
look
for
life
safety
and
follow
the
procedure.
AA
AA
I
have
goals
and
ways
to.
We
could
potentially
bring
somebody
into
compliance
if
they
want
to
there's
a
benefit
to
having
a
documented
permitted
unit.
It
increases
your
property
value,
it
increases
your
rental
value
and
I'm
more
than
willing
to
consider
ways
to
work
with
people
to
make
sure
that
units
are
safe
and
get
them
documented,
bring
them
into
the
fold.
That
would
be
my
goal.
G
So,
just
because
some
of
the
points
that
our
last
speaker
brought
up,
you
know
made
me
think
a
little
bit.
So
what
would
happen
if
I
mean
what's
the
next
step,
if
we
did
not
make
a
motion
on
this
ordinance
tonight?
What
would
the
next
step
be?
I
am
concerned
about
budgetary.
I
mean
we
don't
even
have
a
disposition
higher
yet
am
I
correct
and.
A
All
right,
well,
I
think,
to
answer
your
question:
if
we,
if,
if
no
one
wanted
to
introduce
it,
I
think
that
the
the
what
we
would
do
is
direct
staff
to
fix
or
solve
whatever
issues
you
think
there
are
so
that
we
can't
introduce
it.
So
we
can
that's,
which
is
what
we
did
last
time
in
the
second
one.
It
was
introduced
and
it
came
back
and
we
realized
after
the
public
spoke
that
there
were
some
issues,
and
so
we
directed
staff
for
that
working
group.
A
G
AA
C
C
The
fire
marshal
knocked
out
and
just
rang
the
doorbell
and
the
tenant
was
expecting
somebody
else.
Let
him
became
come
in.
She
said
to
me:
well,
I
just
hoped
he
was
who
he
was
because
you
didn't
tell
me
he
was
going
to
be
coming
and
my
husband
wasn't
home.
So
I
think
it's
for
me.
I
always
like
to
everybody
know
that
this
is
going
to
happen
in
advance,
and
so
I'm
assuming
that
would
be
true
with
other
landlords
and
also
with
rental
agencies
that
they
would
want
to
let
everyone
know.
C
And
I
had
the
opportunity
I
I
contacted
four
people
that
I
knew
were
part
of
the
group
and
and
dave
hoffman
was
one
and
he
wrote
this
letter
and
I
contacted
charlie
jordan
and
she
had
a
small
brief
thought
process
about
how,
when
these
fees
are
being
charged,
that
eventually
landlords
are
going
to
assess
their
tenants
additional
funds
and
they're
going
to
say.
Well,
we
have
to
do
this
and
I
have
to
come
back
or
whatever
it
might
be.
C
So
you,
your
rent,
will
go
up,
and
so
anyway,
there's
concerns
around
that
and-
and
we
know,
our
rents
are
high
in
arcata
anyway,
in
most
units
there
are
a
lot
of
units,
and
so
how
can
we
make
sure
that
that
pass-through
doesn't
go
through
from
the
landlord
agency?
You
know
rental
agency
into
the
onto
the
tenants.
C
That's
I
just
want
to
bring
that
up.
It's
a
concern
and
I
definitely
would
like
to
see
what
kind
of
situation
we
can
actually
have
with
cal
poly
around
housing,
and
we
have
more
than
one
group
of
people
working
up
there
or
I
should
say
working
on
housing
and
making
sure
that
we're
all
working
together
to
provide,
and
if
we
see
things
or
we
know
of
things
that
are
out
of
compliance.
C
I
think
we
should
let
the
building
inspector
know.
So
if
we
see
it
when
we're
on
the
streets
or
out
campaigning
or
whatever
take
a
note,
write,
it
down
turn
it
over
because
tenants.
In
my
experience
over
the
years,
they've
called
me
and
said.
Well,
I
can't
I
can't
say
anything
because
I'll
get
kicked
out,
but
my
landlord
told
me
I
need
to
go
upstairs
and
use
the
apartment
upstairs
shower,
because
I
my
shower
doesn't
work
and
when
I
move
out,
then
he
said
he
would
fix
it.
C
But
those
are
things
that
are
not
okay
and
you
can't
get
tenants
to
come
forward
because
they
think
they'll
be
evicted
if
they
do.
This
has
happened
off
and
on.
You
know
where
refrigerators
are
chained,
with
a
lock
around
them,
because
they
don't
have
an
adequate
refrigerator
and
mothers.
When
I
was
in
the
garden
gate
an
owner
there,
they
would
come
in
just
devastated
that
this
is
how
their
children
were
living
with
broken
windows
with
cardboard
over
the
windows
and
appliances
that
didn't
function-
and
I
know
that's
what
we're
after.
C
F
I
just
feel
like
it's
a
huge
mistake
to
continue
to
delegate
power
to
the
staff.
You
know
there's
many
examples
here
of
of
giving
authority
to
the
director
which
we
do
over
and
over
and
over
again,
and
I
just
don't
feel
like
that's
what
our
voters
expect
of
us.
So
I
don't
think
I'm.
I
can
support
this
anymore
in
the
condition
it's
in.
A
Okay,
so
right
now
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second
to
direct
staff
to
do
more
investigations
work.
So
I
just
would
like
to
clarify,
for
I
support
that,
but
just
for
clarification,
I
only
specifically
heard
two
things.
I
heard
a
request
for
a
budget
item
which
is
great,
and
I
also
heard
a
concern
that
the
fees
would
be
passed
on
to
the
renters.
A
So
I
think,
on
behalf
of
staff,
I
think
that
if
we've
got
more
than
that,
we
need
to
actually
direct
them
as
to
what
we
would
like
answers
on
instead
of
just
saying,
go
back
and
give
us
answers.
So
if
we
could
just
come
up
with,
you
know
really
specifically
what
your
concerns
are.
I
think
that
would,
I
think.
C
C
A
C
G
Yeah,
will
you
be
able
to
have
will
that
working
group
be
able
to
come
together
and
have
one
more
meeting
the
fact
that
some
of
this
wasn't
brought
up
to
the
fourth
out
of
the
fifth
meeting,
I
think,
was
a
little
concerning,
so
if
there
could
be
one
more
meeting,
one
or
two
more
meetings
with
the
working
group
to
kind
of
iron
out
some
of
the
things
that
that
were
brought
up
that'd
be
great.
If
it's
possible.
I
know
it's
like
creating
cats
trying
to
get
people
all
together
in
one
place.
So
I.
F
Mean
I
support
alex's
original
idea
of
creating
a
date.
You
know
that
date
in
september.
I
think
what
we're
forgetting
is
that
you
know
we
decide
what
happens
and
what
dates
thing
things
get
brought
to
us,
not
the
not
the
staff.
So
to
me,
it's
it's
fine
to
put
something
in
in
you
know.
I
don't
know.
A
Well,
I
you
know,
I
hear
you
it's
just
in
the
past.
We've
we've
set
like
we've
had
a
time
certain
and
we've
set
dates,
and
then
we
we
have
gotten
back
work
that
wasn't
ready
to
go
because
that
was
the
expected
date.
So
I
just
wouldn't
I
just
I'm
happy
to
like
look
at
that
month,
time
frame
and
set
that
as
a
goal,
but
I
yeah
I
hear
what
you're
saying.
A
And
I
just
I
guess
I
would
like
to
just
throw
it
back
to
the
council
as
far
as
the
working
group
goes
because
it
seems
like
you
know,
we've
got
specific
questions
or
that
we're
wanting
answers
from
stuff
we're
not
from
what
I've
heard
up
here.
We
haven't
said
we
need
more
public
discussion.
You
all
have
like.
I
need.
I
want
the
budget,
I
want
to
know
this
or
that,
so
it
seems
to
me
like
just
giving
it
to
staff
to
come
back
with
those
answers
would
be
sufficient.
E
A
Okay,
so
we
do
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
have
staff
answer
the
was
it
the
two
questions
that
that
were
brought
up
three
of
the
three
questions:
yeah
and
then
we'll
come
back
in
hopefully
a
month
to
discuss
those
and
see
if
we
want
to
re,
introduce
the
ordinance
at
that
time.
So
all
in
favor,
aye,
aye
all
right-
and
I
know
you're
all
here
for
the
next
item,
but
we
really
need
a
quick
bathroom
break
so
we're
going
to
take
a
five
minute
break
and
we'll
be
I'm
sorry.
A
All
right
welcome
back.
I
apologize.
We
have
one
more
item,
but
it
is
a
short
one
before
we'll
get
to
you
guys,
so
I
misspoke
we're
almost
there
all
right.
So
our
next
item
next
item
of
new
business
is
to
appoint
one
new
member
to
the
parks
and
recreation
committee
for
a
term
expiring
march,
31st,
2023
or
2024,
so
we're
choosing
which
one
so
when
you
make
that
motion
just
include
the
the
term
that
you'd
like
and
one
new
member
to
the
historic
landmarks
committee
for
a
term
expiring
september,
30th
2025..
A
G
A
P
P
P
All
the
events
were
proposed
to
be
held
on
n
street
between
8th
and
9th.
I
will
show
you
a
map
of
that
area
and
they
requested
a
time
originally
of
an
8
30
pm
to
a
1.
30
am
event:
it's
a
mix
of
live
singers
bands,
instrumentalists,
djs
dancers,
live
artists,
local
food
beverages
and
the
types
of
music
that
were
included
in
the
application
were
country
pop
jazz,
folk,
melodic
and
house,
ranging
from
the
80s
until
present.
P
P
I
did
go
ahead
and
approve
two
events
for
july
23rd
and
august
6th,
and
I
approve
them
with
a
10
pm
end
time,
based
on
the
application
that
they
submitted.
They
held
their
first
event.
So,
let's
see
so.
This
is
just
a
pull
out
of
the
city.
Let's
see,
if
you
can
see
this,
this
is
the
plaza
here
just
to
orient
you
and
coming
down
9th
street
to
the
very
end.
It
basically
dead
ends
at
n
and
is
in
nancy
street.
P
So
this
space
between
8th
and
9th
along
n
is
basically
a
dead
end
at
9th
and
a
dead
end
at
8th
and
a
dead
end
at
n.
So
it's
this
section
of
road,
then
that
they
are
cordoning
off.
They
have
gotten
permission
and
working
with
the
property
owners
and
the
business
owners
along
this
building
block,
as
well
as
the
owners
of
this
triangle
of
land
that
they
have
additional
setup.
P
P
Our
use
regulations
allow
amplified
sound
until
midnight.
Again
most
of
that
is
indoors
at
the
community
center
and
at
our
d
street
neighborhood
center
we
prohibit
amplified
sound
even
inside
the
building,
except
for
fridays
and
saturdays
until
10,
pm
and
sundays.
Until
9
pm,
I
will
report
just
a
little
bit.
The
event
promoter
is
here
to
speak
to
you
tonight
directly
about
his
request.
The
july
23rd
was
well
run
and
well
organized.
P
10
o'clock
was
the
time
that
we
asked
them
to
shut
down,
and
everybody
said
it
was
like
instantly
at
10
o'clock.
Everything
was
shut
down.
You
know
it
was
very
smooth
and
they
had
a
lot
of
security
there
that
helped
kind
of
work.
People
back
to
their
car
through
the
neighborhood-
and
you
know
by
all
accounts,
was
very
successful.
P
I
did
confer
with
the
police
department.
We
had
no
confirmed
complaints
to
dispatch
that
evening
there
was
one
noise
complaint
that
came
in
about
two
people
arguing
a
couple
of
blocks
from
the
site
at
about
10
45,
I'm
not
confirmed
to
be
related
to
the
site,
but
only
thing
that
we
had
identified
in
that
evening
in
that
vicinity.
P
P
You
know
the
types
of
events
and
why
he's
asking
them
to
go
later
into
the
evening,
but
to
perhaps
trial
with
that
neighborhood,
based
on
the
outreach
that
that
the
promoting
group
has
done
within
the
neighborhood
to
trial,
maybe
two
at
an
11
pm
end
time
and
just
continue
to
receive
community
feedback,
so
any
direction
that
the
council
wants
to
provide
on
a
later
time
frame.
You
know,
certainly
we
would
take
into
consideration
as
well,
so
with
that
I'll
hold
happy
to
answer
questions
and
provide
time
for
the
applicant
to
speak
about
the
request.
A
AE
G
G
G
AE
So
before
the
event
about
two
weeks,
prior
to
the
first
event,
we
canvassed
the
community
end
street
10th
street
9th
street
8th
street
all
the
way
down
on
both
pretty
much
every
direction.
Past
the
2
block
radius.
We
ended
up
community
letters
kind
of
identifying
what
we
were
looking
to
do.
I
had
what
karen
spoke
on
earlier
about
the
types
of
entertainment
we
had
the
time
frame.
We
were
looking
at
ending
and
we
gained
feedback
from
each
one
of
them.
When
we
did
the
door-to-door.
We
also
left
phone
numbers
and
emails
for
me
directly.
AE
So
all
of
those
people
would
have
access
to
me
at
any
point
during
an
event
if
they
had
a
complaint
or
some
sort
of
a
concern
that
they
want
to
bring
up
including
noise
levels.
You
know
during
an
event
the
biggest
one,
which
was
only
two
residents
that
identified
a
amplified
sound
of
later
than
10
pm
being
something
that
could
be
a
disturbance
to
mitigate
that.
We
have
pointed
the
speaker
system
away
from
residences
so
south
facing
on
the
stage.
AE
We
also
have
provided
the
opportunity
for
members
of
the
community
in
that
neighborhood
to
obtain
a
hotel
room
at
the
cost
of
the
promoters,
so
that
if
they
decide
that
they
don't
want
to
be
present
during
the
event
in
their
homes,
we
are
willing
to
put
them
up
for
that
night
so
that
they
don't
have
to
be
there.
If
we
decide
to
go
later
into
the
evening.
AE
I
know
that's
kind
of
a
little
bit
wild,
but
we
really
want
to
we
care
about
the
community
and
we
want
these
events
to
happen
so
that
people
can
experience
what
we
have
to
do,
especially
those
people
that
are
working
until
10
or
11
p.m.
On
weekends,
a
lot
of
the
concert
goers
we
found
to
be
service
industry
workers
and
a
lot
of
those
people
don't
get
off
work
until
pretty
late.
AE
So
at
earlier
end
time,
a
lot
of
the
community
that
comes
to
these
type
of
events
are
service.
Industry
workers
and
most
of
those
people
do
not
get
off
work.
Some
40
of
the
poll
we
took
does
not
get
off
until
6
pm
and
25
percent.
Don't
get
off
until
10
pm
or
later
so
we'd
like
to
extend
that
end
time
to
accommodate
those
people,
while
still
taking
into
account
the
concerns
of
the
neighborhood,
so
being
good,
neighbors,
of
course,
to
the
neighborhood.
There.
G
So
we
have
a
lot
of
cinnamon
I'll
direct
this
to
you.
We
have
a
lot
of
events
at
clubs
right
that
go
a
lot
later
than
10
o'clock.
So
I
think
one
of
the
concerns
that
people
have
is
that
when
these
events
are
over,
you
know
it's
going
to
release
people
into
the
ether
right
and
to,
and
so
I
mean
what
kind
of
mitigations
do
we
have
when
you
know
bars
or
places,
let
out
that
late
and
is,
would
it
be
like
the
same.
C
Because
I
just
live
up
the
street
from
the
bars
and
so
when
the
bars
close
you
know
between
well,
you
know.
Life
has
been
different
because
of
covet,
but
you
know
you
have
arguments
and
you
have
fights
and
so
forth
and
they
go
on
till
after
two
o'clock,
but
you
get
sort
of
you
know.
I've
lived
there
for
over
20
years,
so
you
get
used
to
it.
C
F
Yeah
I
mean
I
was,
I
was
thinking
130
for
the
first
two
events.
You
know
to
give
you
guys
what
you
wanted
and
see
how
it
goes
because
you
know
looking
at
it.
You
did
contact
a
lot
of
people.
It
seems,
like
four
people
said
that
they
disapproved
according
to
this
but
yeah.
It
seems
like
that'd,
be
okay
to
me.
G
I
will
say
that
you
know
one
of
the
council
goals
and
is
to
really
support
artists,
and
this
is
kind
of
another
way
that
we're
supporting
our
art
community
and
giving
them
another
venue
to
show
off.
You
know
and
make
money
I
mean
honestly.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
artists
need
to
be
paid
for
their
work,
and
I
appreciate
that
you're
giving
people
a
different
opportunity
to
you
know,
sell
art,
even
musicians
and
fire
dancers,
but
everybody
deserves
to
be
paid
for
their
work.
So
I
do
recognize
that.
Q
A
So
I
mean
my
my
original
thoughts
and
I'll
just
throw
it
out
to
my
peers.
Was
you
know,
just
in
conversations
that
we
we've
had
with
staff?
It
was
recommended
that
that
we
don't
go
past
like
12.
When
I
asked
the
question
what
you
know,
what
would
you
do?
The
answer
I
got
was
not
to
go
past
12.
that
that
would
be.
That
was
a
suggestion,
and
so
I
was
thinking.
A
Maybe
if
we
tried
out
the
next
two
events
to
go
up
to
11-
and
this
is
just
me-
you
know
throwing
it
out
there
and
then,
if
there
weren't,
you
know
it's
the
same
feedback.
We
didn't
there
weren't
a
lot
of
complaints.
Then
we
would
authorize
the
city
manager
to
go
up
to
12
for
the
remaining
of
them.
I
would
also,
however,
we
do
it.
A
G
C
And
all
of
a
sudden,
if
you
had
issues,
then
you
could
come
back
to
11.,
because
11
is
a
reasonable
time
for
most
people
to
be
able.
You
know
a
lot
of
people,
don't
go
to
sleep
until
10
or
11,
so
I
would
think
that
could
work,
but
that's
where
I
that's
how
I
would
look
at
it
and
then,
if
it
doesn't
work
you
get
complaints
like
joanne
lives
right
down
by
you.
AE
And
just
one
of
the
things
in
relation
to
the
noise
and
that
late
night,
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
guys
have
heard
of
what
a
silent
disco
is.
Basically,
it's
where
you
know
the
amplified.
Noise
in
the
area
is
turned
off
and
you
offer
a
headphone
set
to
people
to
listen
to
the
music
quietly,
it's
not
as
not
as
there's
not
as
much
allure.
For
that
kind
of
an
event.
However,
it
is
something
if
we
were
looking
to
go
a
little
bit
later
into
the
evening.
E
I'm
super
happy
with
midnight.
I
would
even
be
with
councilmember
watson
and
go
up
to
1
30.
I
live
about
yeah,
three
or
four
blocks
from
there.
I
will
say
I
didn't
even
I
forgot.
The
event
was
happening
at
first
and
then
I
heard
something
I
was
like,
oh
yeah,
so
I
walked
around
the
neighborhood
and
checked
it
out,
and
you
know
by
the
time
I
got
back
home,
I
could
barely
you
know
even
really
hear
it.
It
was
pretty
ambient
background
and
by
10
o'clock
you
were
yeah,
you
guys
were
shut
down.
E
It
was
quiet.
I
noticed
I
took
the
dog
out
at
10,
30.
silence
so
good
on
you,
but
yeah
I
mean
joe
and
arcane.
They
put
on
some
wonderful
events,
super
inclusive,
great
local
community
events
have
worked
with
a
ton
of
other
local
venues,
also
that
we
got
some
letters
of
sport,
for
I
would
be
super
happy
to
support
going
till
midnight
and
even
author
yeah
and
then
you
know,
with
discretion,
authorizing
city
manager,
to
increase
that
without
complaints.
E
I
think
that
would
be
great
because
I
know-
and
I
don't
know
if
that
was
mentioned
yet,
but
a
lot
of
your
events
that
you
guys
have
the
fire
dancers,
the
the
light
shows
and
stuff
really
do
benefit
from
being
in
full
darkness,
and
even
you
know
this
time
of
year,
though
the
sunsets
are
starting
a
bit
earlier
I
mean
it's
still,
not
even
fully
dark
by
10
o'clock
really
or
that's
about
where
we're
getting.
So
I
would
you
know,
love
to
see
these
months
continue.
AE
Well,
there's
a
couple
different
ways:
you
can
have
a
silent
disco
if
you're
doing
a
multiple
channel,
silent
disco,
which
is
what
you
traditionally
see
with
the
colored
headphones
and
they
can
switch
between
colors
and
all
that
kind
of
thing
we
don't
actually
have
any
of
those.
Yet
so
we'd
have
to
source
those.
C
E
K
I
would
really
like
to
see
fewer
cars
coming
to
that
event
and,
like
they've,
tried
at
the
oyster
fest
not
too
successfully,
but
we've
got
to
start
doing
this
type
of
thing
of
offering
shuttles
or
some.
You
know
mass
transit
ways
of
getting
people
to
these
events
to
have
fun
and
maybe
have
a
little
too
much
to
drink,
but
not
getting
in
a
car
and
loudly
zooming
off
and
potentially,
you
know
causing
some
issues
in
the
neighborhood.
K
So
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
the
actual
event
in
the
timelines
or
whatever
it's
the
post
event
that
I'm
really
concerned
about,
and
I
it
does
sound
like
they
have
people
going
around
and
monitoring
all
that.
But
it's
alcohol
and
cars
late
at
night
after
midnight,
just
thinking
about
all
those
types
of
thing,
and
I'm
just
going
to
leave
you
with
that
to
consider,
because
I
want
people
to
have
a
good
time-
and
I
want
to
have
them
to
have
a
good
time.
K
And
I
I
can
sleep
through
a
lot
of
things.
But
I
do
not
like
people
not
respecting
the
neighborhoods
or
the
neighbors
just
because
they
don't
know
what
they're
doing
because
they're
under
the
influence
and
then
they
get
in
a
car
which
is
even
worse.
So
those
are
my
major
concerns
about
this
type
of
thing,
so
carry
on.
AF
Hi,
my
name
is
jonah.
First,
I've
kind
of
wanted
to
address
her
thing
a
little
bit
and
one
of
the
wonderful
things
is
we
used
to
have
our
events
somewhere
else
where
driving
was
in
fact
absolutely
something
you
had
to
do,
because
you
had
to
leave
the
party
because
they're
not
in
arcata
one
of
the
wonderful
things
about
our
event
now
is
that
it's
right
in
the
city
center
and
most
of
the
people
walk
or
bike,
and
we
have
a
bike
valley.
AF
As
someone
who
works
really
closely
with
security,
the
sound
when
the
sound
is
done,
the
sound
is
done.
That
includes
the
speakers
or
people
talking
and
we
move
people
along
the
way
very
quickly,
because
we
are
very
aware
of
the
residents
in
the
area
of
not
being
able
to
stop
us.
So
we're
very
aware
of
that.
We
work
really
well
with
our
security.
AF
I
guess
I'm
just
going
to
wing
it
now,
basically,
during
the
pandemic.
For
me,
I
had
to
basically
change
my
careers,
and
I
know
that
I
have
to
do
something
very
passionate
that
I
love
and
I
have
to
work
with
people
I
like,
where
I
get
burnt
out
really
quickly.
I
start
volunteering
for
joe
and
arcane
and
working
with
all
these
wonderful
people
here,
and
I
just
worked
myself
into
the
position
there
because
I
loved
it
so
much.
AF
I've
been
all
all
over
the
place
and
I've
never
found
a
group
of
diverse
people
that
all
represent
the
same
thing
and
that
we
all
want
the
same
thing
so
much.
I
do
understand
the
what
the
residences
have
to
deal
with
and
all
that
and
we'd
like
to
mitigate
that
with
them
for
for,
but,
as
you
were
saying
before,
as
you
were
saying
before
we
we
just
drive
at
night,
I
mean
we
do
like
the
daytime,
because
it
gives
us
a
new,
exciting
thing
that
we
can
do
that.
AF
AF
X
X
As
a
performer,
I
I've
dj'd
in
the
philippines,
I've
dj'd
in
hawaii,
dj
in
the
east
coast,
the
west
coast,
midwest,
I've
done
497
events,
not
including
weddings,
I've
dj'd
from
the
ingomar
house
to
the
tip
top
club,
every
casino
whatever
in
this
local
community,
and
for
what
it's
worth.
I
think
that
you
have
found
the
right
person
to
lead
the
charge
in
this
growing
music
community.
X
AG
Hello,
my
name
is
bella
and
I'm
here
representing
myself
and
arcane
artists.
I
am
an
artist
myself
and
I
was
one
of
the
participants
in
the
last
event
and
I
wanted
to
say
how
well
the
event
went
with
everybody
working
together
and
such
a
diverse
group
of
people,
and
I
really
appreciate
you
considering
artists
in
this
community
and
such
a
diverse
group.
AG
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
because
he's
really
been
a
pinnacle
point
for
all
of
us
to
come
together
and
has
given
so
many
artists,
a
voice
and
a
platform
in
this
community,
and
we
continue
to
do
this
and
grow
together
and
see
more
and
more
people
come
together,
and
I
really
hope
that
you
can
see
that.
That's
what
we're
doing
and
thank
you
for
all
your
consideration
and
yes,
thank
you.
AG
Q
A
lot
of
our
creativity
is
with
like
the
fire
dancers
and
our
light
shows,
and
so
giving
us
a
little
bit
more
time
to
showcase
that
and
just
allow
us
to
show
our
potential
and
our
talent
is
appreciated.
So
whatever
you
guys
allow,
but
yeah
later
is
better
for
us,
but
and
we
will
do
it,
you
know,
do
it
considerately
and
yeah.
Just
thank
you
for
letting
us
present
this
to
you
guys.
Q
D
AH
Hello,
my
name
is
travis
mcdougall,
I'm
here
representing
part
of
the
community,
because
I've
been
going
to
joe's
events
for
about
a
year
and
a
half.
Now
and
more
recently,
I've
been
starting
to
help
with
some
more
of
the
production
side
of
things
I
did
send
in
an
email,
but
I
thought
being
a
face
to
read
off
the
email,
be
a
little
bit
better
joan
arcane
artists
have
been
providing
a
safe
and
fun
platform
for
local
upcoming
artists
to
express
themselves
and
gain
much-needed
experience
to
help
them
grow.
AH
AH
I
hope
that
we
can
make
it
easier
for
more
the
humble
community
to
enjoy
what
joe
and
his
team
have
been
putting
together.
It
is
great
to
see
people
of
all
ages
at
the
arcane
events,
but
early
curfew
has
that
has
been
enforced,
leaves
out
the
part
of
the
community
that
doesn't
get
off
work
till
late
at
night,
which
in
turn
affects
income
opportunities
and
makes
it
more
difficult
to
coordinate
future
events.
AH
O
Hello,
my
name
is
danny
and
I'm
an
employee
of
one
of
the
venues
that
joe
throws
a
lot
of
shows
at
so
I
work
really
closely
with
all
of
his
employees
and
him
when
he
runs
the
shows-
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
like
and
advocate
that
his
security
is
always
on
point.
He
is
always
you
know
very
well
staffed.
O
He
always
has
it
really
organized,
they
always
show
up,
and
he
really
just
is
always
adamant
about
following
the
rules
of
the
abc
the
rules
of
the
and
laws
of
the
community,
to
keep
everything
you
know
tight
and
he's
always
very
present
in
every
single
event.
So
whenever
anything
is
you
know
questioned
or
going
wrong
or
someone
has
a
question,
he
was
always
right
there.
R
Hi,
my
name
is
ashley
and
I'm
speaking
on
the
safety
of
the
events,
my
first
interaction
with
joe
was
at
one
of
the
beach
events.
I
don't
mind
decompressing
by
myself.
Every
so
often
I
was
sitting
on
a
log
after
the
event,
and
I
was
winding
down
by
myself
joe
noticed
that
I
was
alone,
and
he
approached
me
and
then
he
got
on
my
level.
R
R
AI
AI
I'm
honored
to
have
been
a
part
of
all
of
this,
and
I
hope
it
keeps
going
for
many
years
as
well
as
be
able
to
recommend
this
event
series
to
as
many
people
as
possible
that
want
to
be
a
part
of
it.
I
really
do
believe
this
is
a
great
opportunity
for
a
lot
of
artists.
A
lot
of
people
and
a
lot
of
people
have
an
amazing
time.
So
I
do.
I
do
hope.
You
guys
approve
this
and
thank
you
for
listening.
L
Hi,
I'm
sequoia
I'm
here
for
an
appeal
to
emotion
and
to
wear
this
blazer.
I
have
been
a
resident
of
humboldt
county
since
2018
my
experience
with
arcane
started
at
the
beginning.
The
very
first
show
after
spending
almost
all
of
my
prior
year
in
the
shelter
in
place,
isolation
with
the
rest
of
the
world.
I
had
rarely
gone
out
because
work
was
priority
after
that
turning
point
in
2020,
all
the
businesses
had
closed
down.
I
had
time
and
energy,
but
now
couldn't
go
out.
Everyone
who
knew
me
heard
me
say
ad
nauseam.
L
I
just
want
to
dance.
I
made
it
through
by
dancing
alone
in
my
home
and
then
came
arcane
there
I
was
it
was
happening.
I
couldn't
believe
it.
We
all
got
to
dance
again.
I
am
purpose
driven,
not
big
into
parties
or
what
gets
my
peers
into
trouble.
I
was
there
for
the
magic
of
community
and
dancing
if
I
hadn't
mentioned
that
already.
L
I
did
not
expect
to
find
purpose,
though,
did
not
take
long
before
I
hopped
on
board.
I
got
involved
as
much
as
possible.
I
tried
to
try
to
keep
it
succinct,
but
I
got.
I
did
everything
from
postering
and
outreach
and
taking
down
and
cleaning
up
the
beach
and
somewhere
in
there
I
joined
the
dance
team.
L
I
have
been
dancing
since
I
was
four
years
old
and,
as
all
adults
find
out,
you
don't
really
have
time
for
hobbies
anymore,
so
I
finally
had
the
opportunity-
and
it
opened
so
many
more
doors
and
additional
income.
For
me,
our
cane
felt,
like
a
new
start,
a
calling
a
purpose.
I
met
some
amazing
artists
and
visionaries
visionaries.
L
Sorry,
we
all
spoke
of
our
dreams.
Many
nights
were
spent
with
joe
talking
about
his
visions
and
the
days
saw
them
manifest
crew
members
and
regulars.
I
would
later
call
my
friends,
of
course,
my
amazing
dance
partners
that
I
have
the
honor
of
sharing
the
stage
with
somewhere
on
that
beach.
I
fell
in
love
and
we
would
find
ourselves
on
stage
together
performing
working
alongside
supporting
arcane
fam.
Even
helped
me
pull
off
his
surprise
birthday
party
I
felt
belonging,
I
felt
passion
those
nights
dancing
under
the
stars
changed
my
life.
L
L
AJ
AK
Good
evening
my
name
is
lillian
connect.
I
am
here
as
a
lover
of
melodic
house
music
and
I
love
dancing
as
well.
I've
been
dancing
since
I
was
out
in
clubs
since
I
was
18
before
that,
of
course,
at
home
in
front
of
the
mirror.
I
in
arcata
there
isn't
much
places
that
do
offer
house
music.
So
I
love
the
fact
that
joe
tries
to
get
as
many
house
artists
as
he
can
get
and
they're
awesome.
So,
and
I
do
thank
you
for
considering
to
extend
the
ending
time
for
outdoor
music
events.
AK
Arcane
artists
creates
a
safe
space
for
artists
in
the
community
to
showcase
their
talents,
as
well
as
a
public
space
for
the
for
the
public
to
come
together
and
dance
without
the
fear
of
being
in
a
tight,
enclosed
space
like
most
of
the
clubs
or
bars
in
arcata,
are
accepting
the
end.
Time
will
allow
people
like
myself,
who
don't
get
off
work
till
10
pm
to
enjoy
the
outdoor
space
that
our
cane
artist
cultivates.
N
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
I
support
the
arts.
I've
I've
taught
at
the
university
in
santa
barbara
as
an
art
teacher,
and
I
would
also
I
would
like
to
look
at
the
bigger
picture
as
far
as
this
whole
conversation
tonight,
that
you
have
a
gateway
project
and
you
have
an
arts
and
entertainment
district
and
some
of
these
questions.
I
think
you
need
to
be
asking
yourself
for
that
future
project,
because
I
don't
think
you
have
really
any
details
on
that
and
I
think,
there's
lessons
to
be
learned
from
other
projects.
N
I
lived
in
miami
for
about
eight
years
in
the
wynwood
district,
which
is
very
similar
to
the
whole.
I
I
deal
with
the
gateway
project
and
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
lessons
to
be
learned.
As
far
as
you
know,
when
you
have
a
lot
of
creative
artists,
an
area
and
what
can
potentially
happen
to
them
in
a
very
negative
way
when
they're
forced
out
from
gentrification
and
it's
it's
not
a
you-
could
go
google.
N
When
would
miami
gentrification?
You
could,
and
you
could
hear
a
lot
of
what's
been
talked
about
tonight.
As
far
as
you
know,
what
happens
in
the
bigger
sense
and
so
you're
not
trying
to
reinvent
the
the
will,
so
I
think
I
think
what
this
this
first
step
with
with
all
these
folks,
we'll
give
you
some
answers
to.
V
Hello,
my
name
is
keisha,
I'm
here
as
one
of
joseph's
closest
friends
and
a
person
who's
been
around
for
the
arcane
artist
beginning
to
see
how
everything
has
gone
through
and
honestly
also
one
of
joey's
hardest
critics.
I'm
constantly
poking
holes
and
trying
to
help
him
make
sure
he's
covering
all
the
bases
and
every
time
this
man
has
shown
that
he
knows
what
he's
doing
and
that
he's
willing
to
work
hard
to
make
sure
that
the
community
feels
comfortable
with
events
that
are
being
shown
and
also
as
a
person
who
works
in
the
service
industry.
V
It's
really
hard
to
see
all
of
my
closest
friends
and
family
get
to
throw
these
events,
while
I'm
at
work-
and
I
can't
be
there
to
support
when
I'm
the
one-
also
helping
postering
and
setting
up
and
doing
what
I
can
to
support
joey.
So
I
think
allowing
that
extra
time
for
people
like
me
who
want
to
be
a
part
of
these,
shows
and
be
there
for
the
people
they
want
to
support,
but
also
enjoy
the
entertainment
life.
V
But
I
can't
because
I'm
also
working
at
those
hours,
but
those
few
extra
hours
would
be
great,
and
I
really
appreciate
you
guys
giving
like
a
little
bit
of
a
leniency
trying
to
do
a
trial
run.
I
think
that's
really
important
and
seeing
how
the
community
comes
back
with
that,
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
the
consideration
and
joey's
your
man
he's
going
to
get
everything
done
and
make
sure
everything's
done
correctly
thanks.
AL
AL
AL
At
these
events,
I
got
to
witness
and
experience
the
joy
that
happens
when
you
create
a
space
for
communities
to
safely
express
themselves,
allowing
the
extension
of
the
event
ending
times
would
ensure
the
continued
enrichment
of
the
artists
and
countless
community
members
who
have
already
benefited
from
the
hard
work
that
joe
osteen
and
arcane
artists
have
been
doing.
Thank
you.
D
AK
City
council
members,
my
name
is
ashley,
I'm
a
good
friend
of
joe's
and
I've
been
involved
with
arcane
artists
since
the
beginning,
when
the
world
was
hit
with
the
pandemic
and
everything
was
turned
into
chaos
and
there
was
no
music
scene
when
that's
what
most
of
us
that's
our
escape.
That's
what
we
wanted
more
than
anything.
AK
There's
all
these
art
vendors,
there's
food
trucks,
there's
other
community
businesses
that
are
able
to
set
up
their
stand
at
these
events
and
promote
themselves
to
a
whole
different
crowd,
a
nighttime
crowd
that
they
normally
don't
get
to
at
these,
like
plaza
events
during
the
day,
so
I'm
advocating
for
the
late
times
for
exposure
for
not
only
our
cane
artists,
but
everyone
in
the
community
and
joe
is
your
person
and
he's
going
to
make
sure
everything
gets
done
in
the
restrictions
that
you
guys
want.
Thank
you.
AM
So
the
arcata
music
scene
and
the
art
scene
is
just
so
we're
so
blessed
to
have
such
a
rich
community
and-
and
I
really
want
to
support
it
as
much
as
possible-
and
you
know
coming
out
of
the
cobid
years
and
trying
to
come
out
of
covered
years.
I
think
just
all
the
venues
that
we
can
provide
for
the
musicians
and
the
artists
are
welcomed.
AM
I
have
a
lot
of
friends
that
are
musicians,
so
I
really
root
for
them
to
be
back
in
and
doing
what
they
love
and
making
a
living
at
it.
That
then
I'd
have.
I
have
to
be
the
buzzkill.
I
guess
on
this
evening,
a
little
bit.
I
think
this
sound.
This
sounds
like
a
very
awesome
company.
I
I
have
a
lot
of
admiration
for
them.
AM
AM
Also,
if
you
know
it
also
stated
that
on
the
july
23rd
event
that
their
overall,
the
noise
levels
were
heard
at
the
five
block
vicinity
and
and
that
it
didn't
resonate
loudly
even
one
block
from
the
event,
I
could
say:
that's
not
really
accurate.
That
last
event
was
incredibly
loud,
but
you
know
it
ended
just
like
they
said
right
at
10
o'clock
on
the
dot.
It
was
awesome.
AM
AN
AN
It
sounds
like
a
really
wonderful
event,
but
I
don't
think
you're
following
the
normal
guidelines
of
actually
looking
through
the
issues
and
making
sure
the
concerns
are
addressed,
because
I
mean,
for
example,
pointing
the
speakers
away
from
10th
street.
I
think,
is
a
great
idea,
because
there
is
a
lot
of
people
over
there,
but
pointing
itself
is
pointing
it
toward
other
neighborhoods
too,
and
I
think
that's
a
little
bit
of
where
things
came
across
with
us.
AN
And
this
is
an
outside
event,
you
know,
so
I
I
would
just
ask
of
you
to
do
due
diligence.
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
excitement
here,
but
just
at
least
go
back
to
what
the
staff's
recommendation
was,
and
I
think
it's
a
good
one
to
test
this
out
at
11
o'clock
and
go
from
there,
because
our
initial
feeling
was.
Is
we
have
this
sense
that
you
know
a
lot
of
things
go
on
at
the
cream
room?
We
love
them.
AN
D
AB
AB
So
there's
you
know
just
I
think
it's
a
lovely
idea
to
have
things
maybe
start
out
a
little
later
and
just
work
up
to
a
later
later
time,
because
it
definitely
when
an
event
ends
at
10.
People
go
somewhere
else
for
the
after
party
when
something
goes
till
1
32,
that
is
maybe
more
of
a
destination,
and
they
stay
there
for
more
of
the
party
partying
and
when
you
have
a
thousand
people
leaving
at
around
that
time,
it'll
definitely
be
felt
a
little
differently
than
if
400
people
leave
around
10..
AB
So
she'll
just
change
the
you
know
the
impact
on
the
on
the
neighborhood
and
the
building,
and
also
don't
forget
that
there
are
residences
in
the
creamery
building,
which
is
kind
of
like
m
street.
That
doesn't
exist.
That
is
closer
than
even
the
residences
over
at
the
eighth
and
end
corner
that
there
are
several
folks
that
live
in
the
between
eighth
and
ninth
in
that
in
that
block
of
the
creamery
building,
but
yay
fantastic
thanks.
So
much
just
that
was
just
my
only
thoughts
having
one
and
if
there
were
more
lights.
AB
AO
AO
AO
Also,
a
previous
speaker,
early
on
was
mentioning
the
the
ideology
of
this
sort
of
venue
becoming
a
part
of
what
what's
happening
with
the
gateway
district,
and
you
know
I
think
you
know
joe
would
be
great
to
talk
with
you
about
talking
about.
You
know
some
some
ideas
and
some
facility,
you
know
a
facility
or
something
to
where
you
could
really
dial
in
something
like
this
and
make
it
reality
of
reality.
AO
But
I
I
worry
that
if
you
jump
too
high
too
fast
you're
going
to
end
up
smashing,
you
know
against
the
community
that
won't
like
it.
So
anyway,
that's
my
thoughts
and
I
I
wish
I
wish
you
good
luck
and
I
I
recommend
what
city
manager,
karen
diemer
is
saying
with
you
know,
take
it
slow
and
see
how
it
works
and
see
how
the
community
reacts
and
you
know,
move
forward
step
at
a
time
anyway.
Thank
you.
So
much
and
good
luck
to
you.
AO
A
Okay,
before
we
go
to
deliberations
joe,
could
I
just
ask
a
point
of
clarification.
I
mean
yeah
a
couple.
People
did
mention
like
800
to
a
thousand
people,
and
I
thought
that
I
had
read
that
somewhere,
but
then,
when
we
were
looking
back
and
they
don't
okay,
so
is
it.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
that
was
part
of
the
plan.
AE
Yes,
it's
we
are
we're
prepared
and
staffed
to
accommodate
those
numbers
up
to
a
thousand
people.
However,
we
don't
anticipate
having
them
at
the
events
based
on
the
current
artists
that
we
have
booked
in
the
ways
that
we
do
our
promotion
it.
We
hope
to
obtain
those
numbers
absolutely
and
we
are
prepared
and
every
event
is
staffed,
that
way,
as
well
as
the
facilities.
AE
But
I
don't
believe
that
that
is
a
reality
in
the
near
future.
To
have
a
thousand
people
show
up
at
the
event,
but
if
they
do,
we
would
love
that
and
we
are
ready
to
handle
that,
and
we
are
definitely
you
know
the
way
that
we
have
people
exit
the
venue,
especially
in
those
late
nights,
with
security
down
the
streets.
AE
F
AE
Well,
based
we
don't
use
just
the
street,
I
think
it
was
outlined
so
that
the
fenced-in
field
area
there
that
backs
up
to
iron
side
metals
combined
with
the
street,
is
actually
adequate
for
a
thousand
people.
I
think
that
more
space
is
better,
but
I
do
but
we
have
when
that
was
reviewed.
It
was
act.
It
was
acceptable.
The
parking
is
what
we
would
definitely
not
like
to
have
a
thousand
people
for,
but
that's
why
we
encourage
biking
having
a
bike
valet
and
we
have
a
ride
share
drop
off
on.
C
C
I
would
go
until
one
o'clock
and
that
that's
my
thought
about
this,
and
also
I
would
make
the
stage
face
south
west,
because
if
you
turn
it
that
way,
you're
going
out
towards
the
bottom
well,
then
you
may
get
people
in
windsong.
I
don't
know
where,
but
you
will
definitely
not
be
affecting
some
of
the
other
residents
by
turning
it.
That
way,
alex.
A
F
A
P
I
will
likely
confer
with
the
mayor
and
vice
mayors.
I
do
on
a
number
of
things
and
joe's
pretty
good
at
arm
wrestling,
so
I
think
he's
going
to
win,
but
no
yeah.
No,
I
just
have
to
say
joe's,
been
great
to
work
with
you
know
he
came
to
me
early.
We
talked
very
early
on
and
said
why
don't
we
trial
one
and
then
let's
schedule
it.
So
it's
close
after
that
you
can
get
before
the
council
and
have
this
conversation.
P
A
E
A
Okay,
so
next
that's
going
to
take
us
to
oral
and
written
communications,
hey
guys,
we
we
still
have
to
finish
our
meeting.
So
if
you
could
practice,
I
mean
you
can
leave
that's
fine,
but
if
you
could
just
if
you
could
practice
the
silent
disco,
because
we
still
have
to
finish
but
you're
totally
fine
to
leave,
you
don't
have
to
stay
here.
A
So
next
we
have
oral
and
written
communications,
and
the
city
appreciates
public
input
that
this
time
is
provided
for
people
to
address
the
council
or
submit
written
communications
on
matters
that
are
not
on
the
agenda.
Please
know
that,
pursuant
to
the
brown
act,
the
council
cannot
discuss
or
take
action
on
items
that
are
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
A
At
the
end
of
all
oral
and
written
communications,
the
council
may
respond
to
statements
supported
requests
that
require
council
action
will
be
set
by
the
council
for
a
future
agenda
or
referred
to
staff
speakers
addressing
the
council
may
be
limited
to
three
minutes
with
a
maximum
of
five
minutes
and
a
time
limit
on
the
overall
length
of
oral
communications
may
be
imposed,
and
for
today
that
limit
is
three
minutes.
So
do
we
have
anyone
in
person?
First?
That
would
like
to
comment
on
items
that
are
not
on
the
agenda.
AD
Yeah
the
it
falls
to
the
council.
The
really
important
thing
here
is
to
clarify
the
mandate
for
whatever
procedures
the
rip
is
going
to
be
developed
under.
I
would
have
thought
that
it
that
the
general
plan
clarified
that
pretty
clearly
but
there's
a
conflict
in
the
way
that
it
is
viewed.
It
is
a
responsibility
of
counsel
to
clarify
that
conflict,
not
of
senior
staff.
So
I'm
hoping
you'll
provide
this.
The
the
rip
working
group
with
at
least
a
clarification
of
what
the
mandate
is,
which
part
of
the
general
plan
are
we
to
follow.
J
AN
A
Okay,
thank
you
and
just
as
a
general
reminder,
since
you
know,
public
comment
isn't
really
a
time
for
a
back
and
forth,
but
if
you
do,
for
just
in
general,
public
have
specific
questions
that
you
want
answered.
You
can
reach
out
to
us
or
staff
at
any
time
outside
of
the
public
meeting,
and
we
can
get
those
very
specific
answers
for
you.
So
it's
not
it's
not
limited
to
to
here.
In
this
moment
all
right.
Z
Good
evening
mayor
vice
mayor
council
members,
member
of
the
public
member
of
the
public
in
the
zoom
and
everybody
else,
so
I'm
here
to
give
you
just
quick
update.
I
did
this
a
few
months
ago
on
some
highlights
of
the
transit
what's
happening
and
how
the
ridership
numbers
were,
and
they
were
not
that
great
at
that
time.
But-
and
I
have
some
update
for
you-
I
have
just
four
key
items
that
I'll
be
speaking
on.
Z
One
is
the
ridership
has
gone
up
as
compared
to
last
year,
so
it's
last
year
we
had
approximately
55
000
item
riders
riding
our
transit
system,
and
this
year
we
have
72
000
people.
So
that's
a
good
increase
on
ridership,
that's
great,
and
also
at
the
last
reporting
I
reported.
We
will
be
doing
a
free
bus
service
for
the
month
of
june
and
july,
which
we
did,
and
that
was
very
successful.
Z
Compared
to
last
year's
june
and
this
year's
june
we
had
more
people
riding
last
year
june
we
had
2700
people
writing
our
transit
system
for
free,
and
this
year
we
had
3
200
people.
So
that's
again
increased.
So
that's
good
and
then
other
highlights
you
know
you
must
be.
You
must
have
heard
this
multiple
times
from
me.
Our
electric
bus
are
coming
and
they
are
still
coming
right
now.
The
tentative
date
is
october.
Mid-October,
sometimes
we'll
have
a
two
electric
bus
functioning
here
and
hopefully
they'll
be
running
around
the
city
soon.
Z
Other
thing
that
you
guys
keep
on
hearing
about
is
having
not
enough
lighting
on
the
bus
shelters.
So
with
that
in
mind,
last
year
we
applied
for
some
grant.
We
were
able
to
acquire
nine
lights
at
the
our
bus
stops.
The
lights
are
here
in
the
courtyard.
We
are
just
waiting
for
the
contractor.
So
once
we
have
a
contractor,
eight
of
our
17
bus
stops
will
have
a
light
this
year
and
again
next
year
we
have
applied
for
additional
grant
and
we
will
be
not
placing
but
they're
putting
new
lights
on
the
remainder
of
shelters.
Z
So
that's
just
a
quick
update
and
then
I
would
like
to
say
now,
since
I'm
on
the
hopefully
on
the
tv
or
somewhere,
we
are
looking
for
drivers
to
run
drivers.
The
most
important
thing
is
drivers.
It's
scared.
You
know
service
looks
like
and
it's
hard
to
find
good
drivers
these
days
and
we
want
to
find
some
more
driver.
If
you
know
anybody,
please
send
them
our
way.
We
are
looking
for
drivers.
Z
Z
Z
So
any
questions
on
transition
and
also
like
some
feedback
and
what
kind
of
updates
you
would
want.
The
next
time
I'll
be
coming
in
again
three
months
to
give
you
more
update
on
transit.
So
if
you
have
some
specific
interest
on
the
transit
system,
please
feel
free
to
ask
write,
transit,
get
your
experience
and
ask
questions.
C
So
I
know
one
of
the
things
about
the
bus
system
at
one
time
was
thinking
about
whether
or
not
we
could
hire
students
from
humboldt
and
or
cal
poly
humboldt
in
order
to
be
able
to
fulfill
some
part-time
jobs
and
be
able
to
employ
students.
At
the
same
time.
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
possibility
anymore
or
if
that's
even
being
approached
through
the
cal
poly
looking
for
drivers.
Z
So
that's
a
good
comment
and
we
are
in
communication
with
cal
poly
humble
regarding
that,
and
they
will
be
advertising
our
part-time
bus
position
as
well
and
in
the
past
they
have
done,
but
they
used
to
have
good
program
for
site
tools,
so
they
used
to
have
a
student
driver
system,
but
they
don't
have
that
anymore.
They
seek
services
from
us
when
they
need,
but
they
don't
have
that
program,
hopefully
with
cal
poly.
Z
G
Z
Class
b
and
clean
record:
that's
very
important.
It's
hard
to
find
these
days.
We
have
a
training
program
as
well.
We
have
tried
that
with
hta,
humble
transit
authority,
wedding
partnership,
we
had
only
in
the
last
two
years.
We
have
maybe
got
only
two
applicants
and
they
were
not
able
to
fully
complete
the
training.
So
we
do
have
that
training
also
in
place.
P
F
C
Z
A
Great
thank
you
and
as
far
as
the
content,
I
thought
that
was
perfectly
appropriate.
Just
the
you
know,
quick
stats.
I
think
that's
what
we're
looking
for.
So
thank
you.
Other
council
and
staff
reports,
I'll
just
start
by
saying,
mark
arcade,
we're
gonna
have
competing
job
positions
here,
so
I'm
gonna
say
mine.
First,
our
key
to
main
street
is
hi,
we'll
be
flying
a
position
for
an
executive
director
so
b
if
anyone's
interested
in
that,
please
look
out
for
that
and
I'll
pass
it
off
to
meredith,
because
I
know.
G
E
One
quick
update
the
ibloc
party
is
back
not
to
be
confused
with
the
end
street
block
party,
the
ibloc
party
sister
city
kenwapa,
nicaragua,
fundraiser,
is
back
on
labor
day,
which
is
the
fifth
of
september.
It's
gonna
be
from
12
to
six
and
I
think
the
mayor
and
I
will
be
emceeing
that
event
and
it
will
be
a
lot
of
fun.
There's
some
great
live
bands
and
the
usual
albacore
grill
beer
and
wine
silent
auction.
G
A
A
And
so
it's
a
really
peaceful,
wonderful
event.
You
can
make
your
lanterns
if
you're
interested
at
the
farmers
market
and
then
they
float
them
on
the
marsh.
It's
a
memorial
for
the
the
victims
of
the
hiroshima
and
nagasaki,
the
bombs
that
were
dropped,
but
it's
also
just
turned
into
a
memorial
for
loved
ones
and
for
our
community.
So
I
will
be
there
this
saturday
evening
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
it.
So
thanks
for
helping
me
out
with
the
name.
C
So
I
went
to
the
basketball
court
on
valley
west
and
got
to
see
the
painting
there
and
saw
some
of
the
students
and
city
staff,
and
it
was
what
it
looked
really
wonderful.
So
I
was
really
happy
to
be
able
to
do
that
and
the
other
thing
is.
I
got
a
call
that
be
on
lk
wood,
there's
going
to
be
minor
delays
and
that's
between
sunset
and
granite
august,
8th
to
the
10th
and
that'll,
be
from
8
to
anyway
they're
going
to
be
repaving
the
roadway.
C
So
I'm
just
announcing
that
for
there's
a
lot
of
individuals
that
drive
that
way
and
they'll
be
going
a
little
slower
to
get
home,
and
I
got
that
call
on
my
phone.
So
it's
very
you
know
effective
way
to
let
everyone
know
what's
going
on
in
the
community,
so
I
don't
have
anything
else.
I
mean
I
had
a
lot
of
ideas
and
I
brought
them
up
and
things
about
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
get
certain
things
done.
C
F
F
F
F
And
then
yeah,
I
was
just
wondering
you
know
so:
yeah
hsu
bought
the
property
that
was
supposed
to
go
for
seniors
somebody,
I
think
you
know,
maybe
michael
winkler,
emailed
us
and
said
he
heard
that
hsu
was
asking
some
of
the
businesses
around
the
you
know,
maybe
within
the
gateway
project
area,
if
their
properties
were
for
sale,
and
so
it
seems
like
I
don't
know
like.
Are
we
having
any
conversations
with
that
with
them?
You
know
I
mean
to
be
totally
blunt.
F
We
talk
all
the
time
about
working
together
and
communicating,
but
every
time
at
the
end
of
the
day,
hsu
kind
of
just
does
what
they
want
to
do.
So
I
you
know
to
some
extent
we
need
to
protect
ourselves.
We
need
to
protect
our
residents
and
you
know
if
we
need
to
open
up
try
to
open
up
those
communications
again
with
hsu,
but
it
does
seem
like
it's
a
concern
to
people
that
but
yeah.
You
know
frankly,
they're
concerned
that
the
university
is
going
to
take
over
the
town.
F
F
C
C
So
it
goes
both
ways
and
my
understanding
with
creekside
is
that
the
owners
of
that
property
had
worked
on
it
for
20
years,
and
then
they
asked
cal
poly
humbled.
If
they
would
like
to
buy
it,
they
offered
it
to
them
and
they
bought
it.
For
my
understanding,
is
they
can't
buy
anything
unless
this
at
market
rate
is
appraised,
they
appraise
value
for
it.
So
when
a
lot
of
people,
I
think
we're
talking
about
creekside.
They
think
about
that.
C
So
much
was
going
to
be
owned
by
the
owners,
xanco,
etc,
and
so
much
was
going
to
be
owned
by
the
life
care
humboldt.
So
we
look
at
the
numbers
and
we
could
get
those
confused
because
they
it's
not
all
one
number,
because
life
care
wasn't
going
to
be
buying
all
the
property
only
a
portion
of
it.
So
I
think
we
have
to
keep
some
of
the
you
know.
It's
missing
from
misinformation
is
really
easy.
Easy!
C
You
shake
your
head
out
there.
It's
very
easy
to
have
a
lot
of
misinformation,
so
I
I
you
know.
I
think
I
doubt
if
humboldt
will
come
down
and
say:
oh
I'm
thinking
about
this
and
this
and
that
just
like
we
wouldn't
just
a
city,
be
saying:
oh
I'm
thinking
about
this,
and
that
because
and
if,
if
I
or
you
or
any
of
us
were
going
to
buy
a
piece
of
property,
we
would
expect
our
realtor
not
to
put
it
out
on
social
media
that
joe,
is
buying
this
piece
of
property.
C
F
E
Yeah
just
to
open
that
dialogue,
I
mean
because
what
this
is
going
to
be
something
that
we're
going
to
see
over
and
over
again
in
the
coming
years,
because
you
know
it's
a
delicate
balance,
because
cal
poly
is
also
kind
of
under
extreme
pressure
for
the
state
and
also
kind
of
hated
by
their
peers
in
the
csu
system,
because
they've
gotten
so
much
money
pumped
into
them.
And
then
now
you
know,
there's
also
working
with
the
city
and
all
these
different
layers
of
you
know
what
that
situation
looks
like.
E
But
I
think
you
know
keeping
that
healthy
dialogue
and
opening
it
up,
and
you
know
making
sure
that
you
know
when,
when
we
get
updates
to
you
know
in
the
meetings
that
we
have
every
other
month
whatever.
That
is
that
we
share
them
out
too
and
get
people
you
know
involved
in
that
conversation,
but
it's
a
great
point
to
to
be
making
yeah,
because
it's
gonna,
we're
gonna,
see
it
a
lot
coming
up.