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if
you
are
wanting
to
comment-
and
you
are
here
in
person-
please
be
sure
that
you
line
up
at
the
podium
or
online
raise
your
electronic
hand
as
soon
as
public
comment
is
requested
for
that
item
and
since
we're
doing
something
not
new
but
new
to
recent
times
and
we're
going
back
to
the
numbered
system.
Just
to
be
sure
that
we
have
enough
time
for
everyone,
so
for
the
the
early
oral
communications,
that's
the
only
one
that
has
the
time
limit
on
it.
A
So
it's
a
15
minute
time
period
and
we
don't
traditionally
go
over
that.
But
just
you
know
for
best
practices.
If
you're
here
in
person
grab
a
card,
if
you're
wanting
to
speak
in
the
early
oral
communications
and
we'll
take
the
first
four
cards
first
here
and
then
we'll
go
online
and
take
the
next
four
cards
for
people
online
and
then,
if
there's
more
time,
we'll
we'll
go
we'll
go
back
and
forth.
So
yeah
be
sure
that
you
do
that.
Okay,
so
that
takes
us
to
ceremonial
matters.
D
Most
recently,
these
included
shea
valley,
west
greenview
ennis
and
the
arcata
ballpark,
as
well
as
the
development
of
the
futsal
court
at
the
arcadis
sports
complex.
The
council
expresses
its
sincere
appreciation
for
his
guidance,
support
and
work
to
benefit
our
entire
community
signed
cecil
gonzalez,
our
mayor.
There
you
go.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
for
your
service.
Okay.
Next
we
have
a
proclamation
recognizing
september
4th
through
10th
2022
as
suicide
prevention
week
and
council
member
watson
will
read
that
proclamation
and
then
I
believe
we
have
heather
freitas
that
is
here
in
person,
and
he
will
present
that
to
her
after
he's
done
reading
it.
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G
Acknowledge
that
no
single
suicide
prevention
program
or
effort
will
be
appropriate
for
all
populations
or
communities
address
the
disparity
and
access
to
mental
health
care
for
undeserved
and
underrepresented
groups,
and
advocates
for
ending
these
disparities
fund,
new
suicide
research
to
support
culturally
informed
and
evidence-based
mental
health
care
and
services.
Encouraging
natives
in
arcata,
based
on
the
goals
contained
in
the
national
strategy
for
suicide
prevention
and
the
2022
california.
G
Suicide
prevention
plan
promote
awareness
that
there
is
no
single
cause
for
suicide
and
that
suicide
most
often
occurs
when
stressors
exceed
the
coping
abilities
of
someone
struggling
with
a
mental
health
condition,
develop
and
implement
strategies
to
improve
and
increase
access
to
quality,
mental
health,
substance
abuse
and
suicide.
Prevention's
decision
programs
and,
lastly,
continue
advocacy
to
ensure
we
can
reimagine
a
comprehensive
suicide.
Mental
health
and
substance
use
crisis
response
system
that
builds
on
the
historic
new
988
number.
G
I'm
sorry,
yeah
yeah
988
number
for
the
suicide
and
crisis
lifeline,
therefore
being
proclaimed
by
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
arcata,
hereby
recognizes
september.
4-10
2022
as
suicide
prevention
week
and
recognizes
september
10th
as
world
suicide
prevention
day
signed
a
day
or
yeah
signed
in
the
future
september,
7th
by
mayor,
stacy,
atkinson
and
accepting
heather.
A
H
Okay,
thank
you.
Can
you
hear
me
is
this
on
okay?
Well,
my
name
is
heather
freitas.
I
am
the
board
secretary
for
the
greater
san
francisco
bay
area,
chapter
of
the
american
foundation
for
suicide
prevention
and
our
local
walk
chair
for
the
arcade
out
of
the
darkness
community
walk
first.
I
want
to
thank
you
on
behalf
of
the
american
foundation
for
suicide
prevention,
for
recognizing
suicide
prevention
week
september,
4th
through
the
10th
in
2022
as
suicide
prevention
week
for
our
community.
H
I
think
well.
I
would
hope
that
we
all
recognize
that
these
are
really
critical
issues
that
impact
our
community,
particularly
northern
california,
and
that
they
are,
I
guess,
priorities
for
us.
I
wanted
to
take
this
opportunity
to
share
with
everyone
here
our
upcoming
arcade
out
of
the
darkness
community
walk.
So
this
happens
actually
at
the
close
of
suicide
prevention
week
on
september
11th,
it's
a
sunday,
it
begins
and
ends
on
the
arcata
plaza.
We
will
be
there
from
about
nine
to
noon.
We
have
an
opening
and
closing
ceremony.
It's
a
walk.
A
I
Hi,
hello
and
good
evening,
city,
council
and
city
staff.
My
name
is
carissaronimo
and
I'm
a
member
of
the
energy
committee
and,
as
you
said,
I'm
joined
by
jim
zolick,
a
long-time
member
of
the
committee
as
well.
We
have
the
pleasure
of
working
with
emily
benve,
as
our
staff
liaison
and
we've
been
up
to
quite
a
lot,
but
I'm
told
that
the
agenda
is
pretty
packed
this
evening,
so
I'll
try
to
keep
it
fixing.
I
I
Several
of
them
are
repeat
goals
from
last
year,
since
a
lot
of
these
efforts
are
large
and
ongoing,
but
notably,
we
made
a
commitment
to
furthering
energy-related
environmental
justice
and
social
equity
across
these
goals,
so
we're
planning
to
continue
to
work
with
the
county
to
adopt
and
implement
a
regional
climate
action
plan
continue
working
with
staff
on
the
transportation
mode
shift,
with
a
focus
on
walking
biking,
public
transportation
and
electric
modes
of
transport,
also
continuing
work
on
decarbonizing
and
electrifying
city
and
privately
owned
buildings
and
looking
into
projects
that
generate
energy
from
diversion
of
organic
waste
that
can
provide
greenhouse
gas
emissions
reductions
and
also
meet
air
quality
emission
standard
yeah.
I
So
thanks
for
listening
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
share
what
we've
been
up
to,
we
can
take
questions
and
jim,
please
chime
in
if
I've
forgotten
anything.
J
I
was
going
to
ask,
and
just
thank
you
both
for
being
here
and
thank
you
chris
for
presenting.
Do
you
guys
have
any
idea?
I
know
that
you
have
been
working
hard
and
on
and
for
a
while
on
the
all-electric
initiative
when
when
we
might
be
seeing
that
as
a
council,
I
know
that
some
folks
in
rcea
had
mentioned.
Eureka
was
trying
to
do
a
similar
thing
as
well,
so
just
kind
of
an
update
on
the
status.
If
you
guys
had
that.
Thank
you.
K
Yeah,
I
would,
I
would
say,
probably
best
to
check
with
emily.
I
know
that
we've
been
working
with
with
staff
on
that
and
it's
great
that
the
city
has
environmental
services
staff
that
you
know
have
time
to
actually
focus
on
these
energy
issues
because
we're
a
volunteer
committee
and
we're
only
meeting
every
other
month
at
this
time.
So
but
I
know
that
staff
has
been
doing
a
bunch
of
work
there
and
then,
when
we
meet,
we
we've
been
talking
about
it.
So
I
would
expect
it
should
well
yeah.
K
I
would
expect
it's
gonna,
probably
still
be
a
few
months
out,
but
hopefully
there's
something
maybe
early
next
year,
but
I
would
check
with
emily
for
probably
a
better
clarity
on
that.
L
M
G
No
questions
thanks
again
for
the
committee's
work.
A
Okay:
let's
go
ahead!
If
there's
anyone
that
is
a
member
of
the
public,
that's
wanting
to
make
a
comment.
You
could
come
line
up
right
by
the
podium.
Sorry,
I
didn't
announce
that
earlier,
because
we
we
normally
don't
have
them,
but
it's
great
that
we
do
so
we'll.
Take
the
in-person
comments.
First,.
O
Good
to
evening
I
just
I
heard
them
talking
about-
is
it
strictly
new
construction
or
is
it
existing
construction?
Because
I
seem
to
re:
read
a
report
on
the
city's
website
that
they
were
a
possibility
of
eliminating
gas.
So
I
just
wanted
to
know
whether
that
was
true
or
we're
just
talking
about
strictly
new
construction
going
all
electric.
A
A
Q
Ahead.
Thank
you
thanks.
So
much
for
your
report
and
your
work,
because
it's
very
important
I'd
be
very
interested
in
knowing
whether
your
comments
are
going
to
be
reflected
in
the
plans
that
we
have
for
the
gateway
plan
area
plan
and
exactly
what
the
status
of
that.
R
Q
Because
it
really
hasn't
been
discussed
except
in
generality,
so
I
think
it'd
be
great
if
we
could
learn
more
about
that
and
then
secondly,
I
want
to
make
a
note
that
I
set
up
a
brown
bag
lunch
program
through
ollie
on
december
5th,
where
emily
benvy
is
going
to
be
talking
about
arcadis
plan.
Q
It
will
be
preceded
by
michael
richardson,
who
is
the
county
climate
action
plan
head,
so
we
will
hear
more
about
where
it's
at
at
that
time
as
well,
and
that
is
open
to
the
public
and
you
can
go
to
the
ali
humboldt.edu
to
attend
that
it's
free.
G
Could
we
please
clarify
the
question
about
gas?
Thank
you.
L
A
A
Please
know
that
pursuant
to
the
brown
act,
the
count
the
council
cannot
discuss
or
take
action
on
items
that
are
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
At
the
end
of
all
oral
communications,
the
council
may
respond
to
statements
supported
requests
that
require
council
action
will
be
set
for
a
future
agenda
or
referred
to
staff.
Speakers
are
limited
to
two
minutes.
A
There
will
also
be
time
for
public
comment
for
the
public
to
comment
specifically
on
each
agenda
item
and
again
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
under
item
number
12.,
and
so
again
we
will
be
starting
with
those
that
are
in
person.
So
if
you've
got
numbers
1
through
4,
if
you
could
please
line
up-
and
you
can
just
leave
your
number
on
the
podium
when
you're
done
speaking
all.
S
T
Good
evening,
I'm
fred
weiss
honorable
mayor
members
of
the
city
council
staff,
two
things
one,
the
3d
modeling
is
here
it's
announced
on
friday.
T
I
wish
to
make
everyone
aware
of
it.
I
wish
to
thank
david
loya
the
engineers
at
ghd,
the
architecturally
in
berg,
and
everyone
who
worked
on
it.
It's
really
great
the
success
of
it
is
going
to
be
based
upon
what
staff
offers
to
us,
because
it's
a
tool,
it's
capable
of
anything
and
also
what
the
city
council
and
planet
com
commission
asked
of
it.
I
would
like
to
see
a
build
out
of
what
500
or
a
thousand
or
even
2
000
apartments
would
look
like.
T
A
second
item
is
something
which
is
important
to
me.
T
Ever
since
I
read
the
plan,
I've
been
bothered
by
something
it
may
have
come
up
with
you
previously,
but
I'm
not
familiar
with
it.
The
area
that
I
call
the
industrial
area
from
samoa
to
8th
street
is
called
the
barrel
district.
This
is
an
image
to
the
former
california
barrel
company
site,
where
thousands
of
arcadians
worked
as
instrumental
in
the
war
effort
in
world
war
ii.
T
T
I
think
that,
with
our
sensitivity
and
awareness,
our
respect
for
other
peoples,
that
was
not
the
use
in
its
earliest
days,
and
I
request
that
the
council
find
a
new
phrase
to
replace
barrel
district,
that
that
be
used
as
a
placeholder
and
be
put
in
the
past,
and
we
have
a
new
name
for
that
district.
Thank
you.
O
Good
evening,
I'd
like
to
address
the
grand
jury
report
that
you
had
at
your
last
meeting,
that
seemed
to
be
quite
a
short
amount
of
time
that
was
spent
on
that
for
such
an
important
issue.
I
would
first
like
to
say
the
waste
water
treatment
plant
is
something
that
has
to
be
addressed,
and
I
haven't
heard
what's
happening
there.
O
Because
of
the
implications
of
what
can
happen,
it
seems
like
with
the
gateway
plan,
you're,
actually
doing
the
opposite
of
what
you
should
be
doing
from
what
that
report
came
out.
You're
specifically
deciding
between
four
and
eight
story,
buildings
in
the
barrel
district,
which
is
also
according
to
no
a
tsunami
zone.
O
O
O
You
know,
and
I
have
a
feeling
that
that's
where
you're
going
is
to
increase
that,
but
I'd
also
say
your
admission
statement
when
you
started
out
and
talking
about
the
native
population
here,
that
was
one
of
the
biggest
things
that
destroyed
the
area
was
building
all
those
levees,
so
you're
sort
of
like
building
on
the
foundation
of
that
which
is
in
a
good
direction.
Thanks.
R
Excuse
me,
I'm
dan
barton,
an
arcade
resident
and
voter,
and
I'm
actually
here
tonight
solely
to
ask
councilman
watson
to
resign
we're
at
a
bare
minimum
to
gracefully,
not
seek
reelection.
I
feel
like
the
gaul
or
hutzpah
really
displayed
by
your
decision
to
seek
re-election
as
an
embarrassment
to
the
city,
the
damage
to
city
staff,
morale
and
well-being
caused
by
indisputably
corroborated
actions
and
the
distraction
that
this
has
caused,
including
what
I
am
doing
right
now
from
important
city.
R
Businesses
hampered
progress
on
important
issues,
squandered
city
resources,
especially
human
resources,
and
I
have
to
say
to
all
the
city,
staff
and
council
members
who
have
continued
to
serve
despite
the
conditions
imposed
by
councilman
watson's
continued
presence.
I
respect
you
all
immensely.
I
appreciate
your
continued
service,
the
city
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
U
U
U
This
is
a
old
sign.
I
took
to
many
several
public
meetings
and
public
events.
This
was
greta
tunberg's
phrase.
I
want
you
to
panic.
Our
house
is
on
fire
and
now
more
than
ever,
this
is
true
and
it's
taking
so
long
for
us
to
really
show
demonstrable
action.
Positive
action
in
making
change
in
our
local
community
and
globally
come
september.
There's
going
to
be
the
north
country
fair,
it's
also
international
peace
day
on
the
21st.
U
Let
us
revisit
that
at
that
date
at
that
time
and
really
get
specific
about
what
we
are
going
to
do.
Climate
action
plan
is
being
discussed
and
prepared
and
there's
you
know
the
developments
of
the
different
neighborhoods
in
our
community
energy
policies,
transit
policies.
U
Q
Good
evening,
I
will
see
you
there
a
little
later,
but
at
the
moment
I
wanted
to
first
commend
the
city
and
city
staff
for
the
ben,
noble
presentation,
which
was
excellent
and
helpful,
and
I
would,
as
I
expressed
to
jen
this
afternoon,
email
hope
that
those
results
can
be
made
available
as
soon
as
possible.
Q
Even
before
we
have.
You
know,
there's
time
left
for
other
people
to
add
on
to
it,
but
I
think
it
would
be
useful
if
we
had
that
information
as
soon
as
possible
and
david
lloyd's
presentation
was
excellent.
It
showed
the
3d
modeling
ability
and
I
think,
the
more
of
this
kind
of
thing
we
can
do
the
better.
Q
Q
M
Okay,
well
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
express
my
thoughts
and
concerns
this
evening.
Your
attention
is
greatly
appreciated
as
a
long-term
resident
of
humboldt
county
and
currently
pardon
me
and
current
community
member
of
arcata.
I
feel
I
must
make
my
thoughts
and
concerns
regarding
the
gateway
project
heard.
M
I
love
our
town,
and
living
in
arcata
has
always
been
an
exceptional
experience
until
recently,
due
to
the
need
for
additional
housing.
While
I
support
providing
additional
housing
for
our
new
and
long-term
residents
and
our
university
students
to
come,
I
am
also
fearful
that
a
building
that
building
an
eight-story
structure
housing
over
100
pardon
me,
I'm
also
fearful
that
building
an
eight-story
structure,
housing
over
100
of
apartment
dwellers
will
inevitably
cause
social
unrest.
M
Actually
hundreds
of
apartment
dwellers
pardon
me
will
inevitably
inevitably
cause
social
unrest
by
both
the
building
residents
and
the
nearby
nearby
neighbors.
My
experience
has
proven
to
me
that
living
with
a
hundred
people
in
a
small
area
fosters
poor
behavior
on
the
part
of
the
residence
and
the
surrounding
community.
M
A
A
A
V
Hi
jim
becker,
hello
to
staff
and
to
council
members
thanks
for
having.
I
just
figured
I'd,
take
these
two
minutes
since
we
have
them-
and
I
don't
really
prepare
anything
but
just
to
once
again
put
a
pitch
in
for
the
l
street
linear
park
and
all
of
the
benefits
that
might
come
from
it
and
that'll
really
be
about
it,
and
I
think
I've
spoke
enough
on
it
that
I
I've
probably
covered
it.
Thank
you.
A
A
So
that
takes
us
to
the
consent,
calendar
and
all
matters
on
the
consent.
Calendar
are
considered
to
be
routine
by
the
city
council
and
are
enacted
in
one
motion.
There
is
no
separate
discussion
of
any
of
these
items
if
discussion
is
required,
that
item
is
removed
from
the
consent,
calendar
and
considered
separately.
At
the
end
of
the
reading
of
the
consent,
calendar
council,
members
or
members
of
the
public
can
request
that
an
item
be
removed
for
separate
discussion.
A
G
A
Do
we
have
any
others?
Okay?
Is
there
anyone
from
staff
or
a
member
of
the
public?
That
would
like
to
pull
an
item?
Yes,
oh
councilmember
watson
did
pull
f,
yeah
yeah,
just
f
any
others.
D
Sure
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
items:
a
b
c
d,
e
n
g
of
the
inconsent
calendar.
J
A
Okay,
do
do
we
have
any
public
comment
on
these
items.
A
No
okay!
So
let's
go
like
may
I.
C
Say
one
thing:
I
I'm
really
pleased
to
see
that
we
have
item
number,
the
item
d
and
that
we're
able
to
go
forward
with
the
coastal
commission
and
be
able
to
get
a
grant
for
that,
and
I
believe
it's
really
going
to
be
important
for
us
to
have
one
lcp
in
the
future.
Thank
you.
D
G
Is
this
the
same
company
that
that
currently
has
spots
on
the
plaza?
Yes
and
then
so
we
have
two
on
the
plaza
right
now.
Yes,
so
then
we'll
be
have
four
total.
G
Okay,
great,
I'm
glad
to
see
the
program
successful
enough
to
yeah
to
drive
expansion
of
it.
So
thank
you.
D
A
A
U
U
We
are
such
a
car
oriented
society
still
so
parking
slots
around
the
plaza
and
in
parking
lots
at
co-ops
and
uniontown,
and
all
that,
let's
start
thinking
about
allowing
bicycles
to
park
in
those
slots.
Because
for
me
I
have
a
big,
huge
trike
and
other
people
have
cargo
bikes
or
bikes
with
trailers
and
we're
oftentimes
just
really
shoved
in
a
corner
and
if
we're
going
to
have
people
renting
bikes,
oftentimes
I've
seen
in
the
past
people
leaving
those
bikes
just
like
right
out
in
the
open.
U
It's
almost
like
a
hazard,
so
we
need
to
evolve
quickly
into
whatever
vehicle
you
are
driving
pedaling
scooting
on
whatever
you
know
you
can
be
able
to
park
in
a
slot
where
a
car
normally
was
the
only
thing
that
could
park
there.
So
I
mean
this:
is
you
know
this
is
the
revolution
that
needs
to
happen
in
arcata,
so
I
just
want
to
say
that,
in
addition
to
great
we're
giving
people
opportunity
to
rent
bikes,
but
let's
give
them
an
opportunity
to
park
them
safely
and
successfully
wherever
they're
intending
to
take
them.
So
thank
you.
F
Hi
yeah
greg
king
thanks.
I
just
want
to
actually
echo
what
joanne
said
in
that
we
do
need.
I
think
some
high
quality
covered
bike,
lockers
and
perhaps
even
little
bike
parking
garages.
If
you
will
just
dry
secure,
you
know,
if
you
build
it,
they
will
come
sort
of
thing,
we're
really
not
gonna
get
more
people
onto
bikes
and
more
pedestrians
until
it
becomes
safer
and
they're
not
gonna
lose
their
bikes.
F
So
that's
all
I
have
to
say
I
really
would
push
for
funding
and
exploration
of
how
to
expand
our
infrastructure,
because
again
there
are
a
lot
of
people
such
as
myself,
who
will
not
ride
most
of
the
time
and
in
most
places
because
it's
increasingly
dangerous.
So
thank
you.
W
Hi,
I'm
appreciating
everybody's
comments
about
bikes
and
how
to
get
people
to
use
them
more,
and
something
strikes
me
is
a
solution.
Is
a
mix
residential
with
grocery.
You
know
kind
of
like
the
thing
that
arcade
has
had
is
to
have
some
grocery
stores
and
residential
all
mixed
together
in
the
same
area
instead
of
population
density.
P
I
had
a
friend
who
was
recently
involved
in
a
bicycle
accident
that
sent
him
to
the
hospital
and
it
was
caused
by
using
common
sense,
trying
to
use
a
bike
and
the
design
of
traffic
calming
measures
which
I've
seen
come
in
place
since
we
got
here,
I'm
proposing
that
we're
still
accommodating
cars
way
too
much
and
I
get
it.
Enforcement
doesn't
work
so
make
it
curvy
and
you
know,
make
it
slow
it
down.
P
Take
away
lanes,
take
move
things
well,
he
was
coming
from
the
farmer's
market
to
the
community
center
to
lower
sunny
bray
and
he
was
traveling
his
name's
curtis
jacoby.
He
was
traveling
and
he's
got
a
planning
background
and
other
stuff,
but
he
was
traveling
on
the
wrong
side
in
the
wrong
direction.
P
For
a
reason,
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
go
through
the
traffic
circles
to
enter
enter
traffic
and
go
around
that
and
then
go
on
the
correct
side
and
he
was
probably
in
the
pedestrian
part
of
the
division,
and
there
was
a
willow
branch
hanging
out
low
that
knocked
him
off
his
bicycle
and
because
it
wasn't
trimmed
and
it
was
growing
because
of
the
riparian
area
and
it
knocked
him
off
of
his
bicycle
and
he
landed
on
the
barrier,
which
is
a
concrete,
curb,
stepped
up
and
he
landed
and
he
hit
his
front
back.
P
Ribs
broke
about
eight
nine
ribs
and
went
unconscious
from
pain,
was
transported
by
ambulance
to
the
hospital
and
the
it's
a
direct
cause
of
a
a
well-intentioned
traffic
calming
measure
which
puts
pedestrians
and
cars
and
everyone
at
risk.
Now
the
idea
is
if
somebody's
buzzed
or
drunk
they're
just
going
to
drive
fast.
P
If
it's
straight
and
then
an
accident
is
going
to
happen
well
giving
them
an
obstacle
course,
as
people
age,
you
know
curves
and
all
these
other
things
and
creating
you
know
the
the
roundabouts
are
great
europe's
so
far
ahead
of
us.
They
had
them
before
we
ever
got
them
australia
everywhere.
P
A
A
All
right,
thank
you,
motion
passes
next,
we
have
old
business,
and
the
item
in
this
section
is
receive
an
update
on
the
city
of
arcata's,
wastewater
and
water
infrastructure
planning
and
we've
got
environmental
services
director
emily
sinckhorn,
with
a
staff
report.
X
So
I'll
just
start
talking,
so
we
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
give
an
update
on
how
the
city
has
been
planning
for
water
and
wastewater
infrastructure,
both
for
current
projects
and
planning
for
the
future
and
water
and
waste
water,
water,
distribution
and
treatment,
and
wastewater
collection
and
treatment
is
some
of
the
key
essential
services.
X
I
think
we
have
about
10
highlighted
here
and
they
make
up
kind
of
a
bit
less
than
half
of
our
total
cip
projects,
but
definitely
way
more
than
half
of
our
intended
and
anticipated
costs.
So
this
is
key
investments
for
the
city,
so
the
first
project
really
wanted
to
focus
on
is
giving
a
brief
update
of
the
status
of
the
arcata
wastewater
treatment
facility
phase,
one
upgrade
and
so
planning
for
this
critical
project
has
been
in
the
works
for
well
over
a
decade.
X
X
Also
looking
at
potential
relocation
and
looking
at
all
those
pros
and
cons,
and
so
at
the
time
the
council
really
looked
at
those
options
and
heard
from
the
community
and
made
a
decision
to
really
focus
the
rehab
on
our
existing
treatment
plant
and
to
retain
the
natural
systems
and
also
plan
for
a
parallel
mechanical
system
as
a
phase
two
that
could
plan
for
the
future
for
future
capacity
and
give
us
give
the
city
options.
X
So
once
that
decision
was
made,
a
lot
of
planning
really
began
in
earnest
and
design,
and
so
again
the
the
key
purpose
of
the
phase.
One
upgrade
is
to
replace
a
lot
of
our
aging
infrastructure
from
the
1980s
to
upgrade
our
disinfection
system.
We
currently
use
chlorine
to
ultraviolet
light,
and
that
was
a
as
a
big
step
as
a
lot
of
our
water
quality
challenges.
Stem
from
disinfection
byproducts
from
using
chlorine
uv
is
also
a
lot
safer
of
having
chlorine
gas.
Much
more.
You
know
stored
at
the
at
the
plant
and
this.
X
The
scope
of
this
project
will
also
reconfigure
to
a
single
pass
flow
of
how
influence
flows
into
the
plant
and
is
treated
through
all
of
the
processes
and
then
exits
at
a
new
outfall
in
the
brackish
marsh
north
of
the
gearheart
enhancement.
Merch.
X
And
so
just
again
to
reiterate,
the
continuing
for
the
purpose
is
really
to
better
meet
our
water
quality
standards.
X
So
I
know
this:
this
is
an
overview
of
the
treatment
plant
upgrade
for
phase
one.
It
may
be
hard
to
see
both
in
person
and
online,
but
the
dark
black
lines
detail
the
key
improvements
for
phase
one.
X
X
You
know
the
opportunity
for
seeing
some
of
the
water
quality
benefits.
We
hope
to
see
in
that
natural
system
and
having
that
aeration
really
augment
that.
So
this
will
be
a
large
project
of
once.
It
gets
started,
which
we
anticipate
to
be
this
fall
of
a
duration
of
about
30
months.
So
there
will
be
ongoing
impacts
to
our
ongoing
operations
at
the
treatment
plant
and
corporation
yard,
and
we've
been
actively
planning
for
that.
X
And
that
is
a
key
component
of
ensuring
that
our
treatment
system
can
continue
even
during
construction
as
well
as
there
will
be
temporary
impacts
to
the
public
access
portions
of
the
marsh,
and
that
is
not
anticipated
to
start
until
2023
likely
in
the
spring
and
will
be
kind
of
well
noticed
to
the
public.
But
those
are
the
those
will
be
some
temporary
impacts
just
to
enable
this
critical
project
to
move
forward.
X
So
I
touched
on
the
timeline
a
bit.
Our
contractor
bids
are
due
tomorrow.
Currently,
the
uv
system
is
being
fabricated,
so
that
is
in
process.
We
have
all
of
the
permits
for
the
project,
except
our
coastal
development
permit,
which
is
anticipated
to
be
at
the
september
hearing
of
the
coastal
commission,
and
we
have.
We
have
heard
that
staff
will
be
recommending
approval
of
the
project
and
again
will
be
about
a
30
30
months
time
period,
so
just
wanted
to
briefly
touch
on
sea
level
rise
and
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
upgrade
project.
X
A
key
thing
is
that
planning
for
sea
level
rise
for
this
project.
Other
projects
within
the
city
are
consistent
with
the
city's
local
coastal
program
planning
and,
in
particular,
utilizing
the
same
data
and
strategies
and
analysis
that
were
presented
to
the
council
at
the
last
kind
of
study
session
for
the
lcp,
a
key
thing
that
city
staff
and
our
consultants
from
of
of
experts
around
sea
level
rise
planning,
have
really
determined
that
the
phase
one
project
will
be
viable
throughout
its
30-year
design
life
so
through
to
2055.
X
Augmentation
of
the
core
area
of
the
treatment
plant
is
being
pursued,
and
in
this
year's
budget,
the
council
approved
funding
for
planning
and
design,
and
we
are
will
soon
be
releasing
a
request
for
proposals
for
assistance
in
that
phase
of
the
project,
and
then
our
engineering
department
recently
received
the
the
great
news
that
our
our
grant
proposal
to
fema
and
cal
oes
was
successfully
funded
to
see
us
through
through
construction,
and
so
we
anticipate
that
that
that
levy
augmentation
for
that
core
area
of
the
treatment
plant
will
be
you
know,
will
occur
in
then
within
several
years.
X
I
guess
one
thing
I
didn't
touch
on
for
ensuring
that,
just
in
our
analysis,
that
phase
one
will
be
protected
from
sea
level
rise
without,
even
if
the
city
was
not,
you
know,
working
on
levy
augmentation
in
that
areas,
the
mechanical
systems
and
electrical
components
of
the
new
facilities
that
are
are
coming
in
will
be,
you
know,
protected
from
flooding
and
with
raised
elevations,
and
also
that
our
enhancement
marshes
are
able
to
weather
more
times
of
in
a
temporary
inundation.
X
So
we
have
also
staff
have
received
questions
around
the
current
capacity
of
the
treatment
plant
or
what
will
our
capacity
be
with
phase
one
completed
and
then
what
about
future
capacity?
So
I
just
wanted
to
have
a
couple
slides
focused
on
that
when
we
think
about
capacity
of
a
treatment
facility,
there's
a
number
of
parameters
to
think
about
capacity.
It's
how
much
influence
can
come
into
the
plant
per
day
at
an
instantaneous
amount
of
time.
X
How
much
can
individual
processes?
How
much
flow
can
individual
processes
take?
Also
of
how
much
flow
can
the
plant
take
during
the
wet
season?
You
know
versus
the
dry
also
how
much
a
nutrient
loading
a
treatment
plant
can
handle.
Also,
if
the
you
know,
influent
meat
flow
really
meets
our
permit
limits
with
the
north
coast.
Regional
water
quality
control
board,
as
we
have
a
national
pollutant
discharge,
elimination
system
permit.
X
So
right
now,
I'm
just
going
to
focus
on
influent
flow,
because
that's
one
of
the
one
way
to
really
look
at
capacity
and
grasp
and
so
going
to
be
showing
some
numbers
but
want
to
talk
about
what
each
of
these
columns
mean,
and
so
this
first
current
values
for
design
that
those
were
current.
Those
were
values
kind
of
taken
from
a
snapshot
of
12
years
when
the
city
was
working
on
the
design
for
phase
one.
So
looking
at
those
12
years,
what
were
the
kind
of
current
average
amounts
of
influent
flow
into
the
plant?
X
The
future
values
was
what
the
phase
one
design
was
really
planning
for,
and
that
was
really
based
on
the
current
values,
plus
a
20
growth
factor
as
a
kind
of
factor
of
safety
as
influence
flow
can
vary
as
at
that
time
we
were
planning
for
about
one
percent
of
growth
per
year,
and
so
this
was
looking
at
a
20
20
30
year,
time
frame
and
planning
for
what
at
the
time
was
in
our
general
plan
and
the
2021
values
are
from.
X
You
know
last
year's
average
values
and
then
our
permit
limits
with
the
regional
water
quality
control
board.
X
Also,
so
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
our
units
of
million
gallons
per
day
of
influence
coming
into
the
plant
and
again
there's
many
ways
to
look
at
this.
So
we'll
look
at
minimum
flow,
average
dry
weather
flow
maximum
month
flow.
These
are
all
key
parameters
to
keep
in
mind
and
to
look
at
before
we
look
at
some
of
that
data.
X
So
let's
look
at
some
of
that
data
and
there
so
there
there's
a
lot
to
you
know
take
in
here.
But
a
key
thing
to
note
is
that
our
kind
of
average
dry
weather
flow
last
year
was
1.0
million
gallons
per
day.
X
You
know
the
treatment
plant
when
phases,
one
is
complete,
will
have
a
much
greater
capacity
than
that
also
again,
seeing
that
our
peak
instantaneous
flow
at
the
bottom
can
be
quite
large
and
that's
really
dependent
upon
the
amount
of
precipitation,
the
timing
of
precipitation,
the
amount
of
inflow
and
infiltration
coming
into
our
wastewater
collection
system,
and
in
the
past
a
few
years
we
have
not
had
a
lar
a
wet.
X
Very
wet
wet
season,
so
that
is
something
that,
for
future
planning
will
really
continue
to
be
looking
at
the
range
of
years
and
not
just
instantaneously
in
2021,
but
wanted
to
give
you
kind
of
a
bit
of
where
we
are
where
we
are
at,
and
so
so
just
looking
at
data
from
2021,
our
average
dry
weather
flow,
you
know
is
less
than
50
of
our
capacity
and
then
for
average
wet
weather
flow.
X
This
table
is
just
another
way.
Can
we
go.
J
Back
to
that,
can
I
just
ask
a
quick,
quick
question
about
those
bottom
two
rows
there,
because
it
kind
of
is
making
sense
to
me
on
the
top
ones.
You
know
the
this
one's
smaller
and
then
we
add
20
for
growth
and
then
looking
at
that,
but
for
the
peak
wet
weather
those
are
the
same
and
for
the
peak
flow
capacity
I
mean
just
what.
Why
are
those
the
same,
and
you
know
20
growth,
or
is
that
just
I
don't
know
just
explain
those
last
two
lines.
I
guess
a
little
bit
more.
X
Sure
so,
just
for
the
peak,
wet
weather
flow,
the
main
limitation.
There
is
our
npds
permit
limit,
and
that
is
really
to
ensure
that
our
treatment
plant
has
the
capacity
not
only
to
take
in
influent
but
then
to
treat
that
influence,
and
especially
around
nutrient
loading
for
the
peak
instantaneous
flow.
We
can
have
more
flow
coming
in
to
the
plant
that
then
is
stored
and
attenuated
in
the
oxidation
ponds.
X
If
we
like
can't
send
it
right
through
the
whole
system
right
away,
and
so
we
have
that
additional
capacity
for
storage
but
they're
those
the
16.5
numbers
are
really
the
likely
the
same,
because
many
of
our
processes
that
work
through
the
headworks
that
brings
in
the
influent
and
in
the
clarifier
have
kind
of
max
flow
amounts
that
they
can
really
operate.
X
So
again,
the
yellow
is
our
2021
values.
The
gray
is
our
permit
limits.
The
red
is
what
our
design
capacity
is
for
phase
one,
and
then
the
blue
has
been
what
you
know.
We're
past
infl
past
inflow
that
we
really
were
using
to
plan
for
design.
G
So
I
just
want
to
clarify
you
know:
this
is
a
30-year
plan,
basically
right
so
2050
and
with
a
20
growth
factor,
so
we're.
Basically,
this
is
all
based
off
of
the
assumption
that
in
2050
the
city
will
only
grow
by
4
000
people.
X
Yeah,
so
this
current
this
current
phase,
one
the
20
growth
factor-
you
can
relate
it
to
population,
but
it
was
not
looking
at
a
20
population
growth.
X
The
goal
was
really
to
plan
for
the
population
that
at
that
time
we
were
planning
for
in
the
2000
general
plan
and
so
the
what
we're
planning
for
for
the
future.
So
phase
one
will
be
viable
throughout
that
time.
But
it's
not
where
we're
stopping
for
planning
for
2055.
X
J
X
Yeah
we'll
touch
on
what
we've
been
calling
as
phase
as
phase
two
and
then
what
we've
been
calling
a
phase.
Three.
X
Phase
one
is
now
pl
plus
you
know
that
twenty
percent
sort
of
growth
factor
and
when
we
were
designing
when
the
city
was
designing
for
phase
one,
it
was
also
really
designing
at
the
same
time,
pre-design
with
phase
two
and
we'll
talk
about
that
in
the
next
next
slide.
X
So,
just
briefly
to
touch
on
the
you
know
again,
I
just
focused
on
influence
flow
capacity.
The
effluent
limitations
for
nutrient
loading
are
another
key
aspect
of
capacity
and
really
a
lot
of
phase.
One
is
really
focused
on
that
aspect,
and
that
has
been
a
challenge
for
our
natural
system,
not
all
or
not.
Many
treatment
plants
utilize,
the
natural
system
that
we
do
and
we're
really
grateful
to
our
partners
and
long-standing
collaborators
to
assist
in
options
for
working
with
our
really
unique
and
innovative
system.
X
We
have
implemented
eight
aerators
in
our
oxidation
ponds,
just
in
this
last
year,
they've
been
up
and
running
since
the
end
of
may
and
june.
So
we
anticipate
soon
with
our
partners
at
amory
and
city
staff,
of
analyzing
for
biological
oxygen
demand
and
other.
You
know
nutrient
loading
parameters
that
we
hope
to
see
some
some
real
improvements
and
just
with
with
those
aerators
and
we're
planning
again
24
in
the
phase
one.
X
So
then,
for
briefly
on
the
future
capacity
planning
for
the
when
the
city
was
in
the
pre-design
phase
and
facility
planning
phase,
when
the
council
at
the
time
chose
to
retain
the
natural
system,
they
also
had
you
know,
voted
on
a
phase
two.
That
would
be
more
of
a
parallel
mechanical
system
within
the
core
part
of
the
treatment
facility,
such
that,
if
our
goals
for
water
quality
weren't
completely
met
with
phase
one
that
we
could
phase
in
a
oxidation.
Ditch,
which
is
a
you
know,
artificial,
not
like
our
oxidation
pond.
X
That
is
more
of
a
natural
system,
but
within
a
more
contained
built
system,
and
also
for
updates
to
adding
a
secondary,
clarifier
and
other
aspects
that,
when
able
to
to
augment
the
treatment
of
the
natural
system-
and
so
the
city
had
been
planning
to
start
that
design
of
phase
2
last
year
and
our
funding
partner,
the
state
water
board
had
asked
for
phase
2
to
be
put
on
hold
temporarily
and
has
is
funding
a
technical
assistance
for
more
of
a
third
party
feasibility
study
to
plan
for
long
range.
X
They
have
really
asked
for
that
feasibility
study
to
look
at
more
of
the
the
future
beyond
2055..
X
I
really
anticipate
that
a
lot
of
those
analyses
will
be
similar
to
what
the
city
has
already
conducted
in
our
facilities
plan,
but
it
would
also
look
at
what
could
be
some
relocation
or
additional
treatment
facilities
outside
of
our
core
treatment
plant
area
and
weigh
weigh
those
pros
and
cons,
particularly
of
the
infrastructure,
investment
that
we
have
currently
in
place,
and
also
with
our
with
our
plan
for
resilience
to
sea
level
rise
and
just
of
putting
the
all
those
pieces
together,
which
a
lot
of
that
has
really
been
is
being
accomplished
through
our
local
coastal
planning
effort.
X
So
also
around
capacity
and
and
projects
that
the
city
is
currently
undertaking
is,
but
we
can
look
at
how
can
we
increase
capacity
at
the
plant
itself
and
we
can
also
look
at
how
can
we
decrease
the
amount
of
influent
coming
into
the
plant,
and
so
one
of
the
key
ways
to
do
that
is
to
really
look
at
reducing
inflow
and
infiltration
into
our
sewer
collection
system.
So
that
can
be
from
direct
connections
into
our
sewer
system.
X
It
can
also
be
from
groundwater
seeping
into
leaking
pipes
and
also
another
another
way
that
the
city
has
been
addressing.
This
in
is
in
2017,
the
city
adopted
the
sewer,
lateral
replacement
ordinance
and
that
really
targets
whenever
a
a
residence
is
being
sold.
That
is
over
25
years.
It
requires
a
certificate
that
that
lateral
is
intact,
has
been
cleaned
or
needs
to
be
replaced,
and
we
are
really
seeing
results
from
these
projects.
X
So
a
recently
completing
ini
project
in
fluid
infiltration,
preliminary
results
from
20
from
the
2019
project
indicate
that
the
wet
weather
flows
into
the
plant
have
been
reduced
by
0.5
million
gallons
per
day
during
the
wet
season.
So
if
we
think
about
back
to
the
table
that
we
were
looking
at
and
in
2021
our
let's
not
make
it
up
numbers,
let's,
let's
look
at
it.
You
know,
so
our
peak
instantaneous
flow
in
the
winter
last
year
was
4.7.
X
You
know
our
average
wet
weather
flow
was,
you
know,
was
under
two
million
gallons
per
day,
but
the
decrease
of
0.5
million
gallons
per
day
through
this
project
is
not
insignificant
and
the
your
council,
just
on
the
consent
calendar
approved
moving
forward
with
this
next
ini
project
that
our
engineering
department
is
currently
really
focused
on.
So
we
anticipate
that
that
next
project
to
occur
in
the
next
few
years.
A
lot
of
that
is
lining
of
sewer
pipes
and
is
a
multi-million.
X
X
X
A
X
Finish
all
right:
okay,
go
ahead,
great,
so
for
drinking
water
planning
again
we're.
We
are
very
fortunate
where
we
live
on
the
north
coast
to
have
a
robust
water
capacity.
So
the
city
is
a
municipal
member
of
the
humboldt
bay
municipal
water
district
and
we
receive
our
water
through
the
water
district,
which
comes
from
the
mad
river
and
the
you
know.
X
Storage
is
at
ruth
lake
in
trinity
county
on
the
mad
river,
and
it
is
currently
at
94
percent
of
capacity
and
in
2020
the
city
utilized
about
a
little
more
than
half
of
its
right,
which
is
1,
186
million
gallons
of
water
annually
and
the
city
and
through
our
urban
water
management
plan
and
the
the
water
district
through
their
planning
really
looked
at.
What
is
you
know
in
the
future
for
arcada's
drinking
water
needs
and
anticipate?
X
X
It
has
been
offline
for
several
years
and
that
was
through
the
state's
water
conservation
standards
or
requirements
that
came
in
since
in
2014
or
2015.
X
We
are
in
currently
and
right
in
the
middle
of
ensuring
that
final
well
tests
to
get
that
back
up,
so
that
is
another
water
source,
and
so
that
can
withdraw
up
to
0.5
million
gallons
per
day.
X
So
it's
it's
great
to
have
that
as
an
additional
water
source
or
backup
water
source,
and
we
can
get
all
the
water
we
want,
but
we
also
need
to
store
it
and
have
it
available
for
for
when,
when
we
need
it
and
when
you
turn
on
the
faucet,
so
the
city
maintains
16
water
storage
tanks
and
we
have
many
different
zones
within
the
city
where
these
tanks
are
located
and
serve
different
elevational
areas
of
the
city.
X
It
will
provide
water
to
the
pressure
zone,
one
which
is
the
majority
of
the
population
in
arcata,
and
it
will
increase
our
water
storage
by
20
percent.
So
that's
a
a
key
key
number
both
for
resiliency
in
case
of
you
know,
damage
to
the
water
distribution
line
from
the
district
in
case
of
fire.
In
case
of
many
you
know,
emergency
planning
needs
just
going
to
say
one
more
thing
about
that.
X
Band
but
other
water
infrastructure
projects,
environmental
services
and
and
engineering
have
been
working
for
several
years
to
outline
a
next
water
line
replacement
project.
We
have
a
lot
of
older
and
ac
pipes
that
are
getting
soft
and
can
spring
leaks.
X
We
have
a
cal
oes
funded
project
too,
for
improvements
at
a
booster
station
and
water
lines.
So
that's
a
quick
overview
of
kind
of
the
current
planning
for
water
infrastructure
and
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions
for
water
and
wastewater
planning
and
also
city
engineer.
Nature.
Catri
is
here
as
well,
especially
for
any
more
technical
questions.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
director,
st
corn.
We
appreciate
that
so
I'm
sure
that
we've
all
have
lots
of
questions,
so
I
would
just
maybe
if
each
council
member
could
ask
a
few
whenever
it's
your
turn
and
then
kind
of
pass
it
along
and
then
we'll
come
back
and
pick
up
others
just
so
we
can
spread
it
out.
D
J
I
was
going
to
ask
just
because
I
know
you
know
a
lot
of
these
projections
about
sea
level
rise,
can
change
kind
of
rapidly
and
that
you
know,
I
think
that
we
are
in
a
way
different
situation
than
maybe
the
council
back
in
2017
was
making
decisions
for,
but
my
overarching
question
is
kind
of
just
it's.
It's
two-pronged
I
feel
like.
J
I
ask
really
long
questions,
but
you
know,
because
you
said
phase
two
is
kind
of
on
hold
right
now,
to
look
at
feasibility
and
and
to
kind
of
you
know,
make
sure
that
is
the
right
call,
and
just
thinking
you
know
is
the
coastal
commission
in
agreement
you
know
with
with
us
about
believing
that
you
know
we
we
have
capacity
up
to
2055
and
that
going
ahead
with
phase
two
will
most
likely
happen
and
just
yeah
how's.
The
coastal
commission
feel
about
it.
X
Yeah,
so
for
the
last
many
many
months,
multiple
great
staff
in
es
and
engineering,
deputy
director,
emily
benve
rachel
hernandez,
our
environmental
compliance
officer,
jessica
jewitt,
our
project
manager
have
really
been
leading
also
adobe
class
retired
annuitant
have
really
been
leading
the
technical
aspects
for
how
we
make
our
case
for
the
project
with
coastal
commission
staff
and
fortunately,
coastal
commission
staff
have
been
really
responsive
and
really
of
direct
and
easy
to
work
with,
because
they
have
had
a
lot
of
questions,
both
technical
and
clarifying,
and
also
of
really
asking
for
more
information
to
back
up
our
analysis.
X
So
that
has
been
a
many
month,
iteration
of
submittals
over
this
past
year
and
in
may
or
june.
I
think
it
was.
May
we
received
note
that
our
like
app
our
application,
you
know
materials
you
know
were
deemed
complete
and
then
that
coastal
commission
staff
would
review
those
we
have
received.
X
So
that's
a
long
answer
to
say
that
the
commission
staff
have
been
very
helpful
to
work
with
will
be
recommending
approval
and
the
commission
will
be
hearing
that
project
in
september.
X
And
so
around,
so
that
is,
that
is
for
phase
one
and
what
was
not
included
in
phase
one
was
levy
augmentation,
because
we
really
showed
the
project
would
be
viable
without
that
we
are
planning
as
a
separate
project.
The
levy
augmentation,
as
I
talked
about
with
that
fema
funding
and
as
nature,
has
really
said
that
our
kind
of
the
most
difficult
aspect
of
that
project
was
getting
funding.
X
It
was,
you
know,
finding
funding,
it
probably
won't
be
permitting,
and
so
after
several
years
of
really
trying
to
get
that
project
funded.
Just
you
know
this
last
month
received
word
that
it
was
funded.
X
X
Most
of
that
work
will
really
be
within
the
core
treatment
plant
area
themselves,
and
so
the
you
know
the
potential
to
affect
coastal
resources,
which
is
what
the
coastal
commission
would
be
looking
at,
would
really
would
would
probably
be
on
levy
augmentation.
So
as
we
move
that
project
forward,
some
of
those
questions
will
likely
be
answered
and
addressed
in
that
levy.
Augmentation
project,
before
we
even
get
to
phase
two.
J
Excellent,
that
was
that
was
a
great
answer.
Thank
you,
emily
and
then
the
other
question
I
was
gonna
ask
just:
could
you
give
a
little
just
a
brief,
more
overview
about
phase
two
and
kind
of
how
the
oxidation
ditches
increase
capacity
and
kind
of
what?
What
role
that
will
play
in
increasing
our
capacity.
X
Yeah
so
phase
two
would
also
add.
A
secondary
clarifier
could
also
help
in
some
of
the
rehab
of
our
existing
digester,
and
so
for
how
phase
one
and
phase
two
were
were
split.
X
X
That
slide
was
too
small
to
really
talk
about
it
and
oxidation
ditches
are
like
built
up
con
they're,
not
really
ditches
as
much
as
like
swimming
pools
that
are
concrete
and
above
ground
and
provide
that
type
of
aeration
in
a
much
more
mechanical
way
than
the
oxidation
ponds.
Do
they
also
phase
two
was
intended
to
have
build
one
oxidation,
ditch
if
needed,
and
see
how
that
functions
and
then
could
also
be.
You
know,
could
added
a
second
you
know
or
a
third,
if
needed,.
J
X
I
have
been
here
since
may
of
last
year.
Awesome.
G
G
Could
we
put
that
in
the
packet
that'd
be
great
just
because
there's,
like
you,
know,
pictures
and
stuff
in
there
that
I
think,
would
be
helpful,
so
yeah
30
months.
So
basically,
so
this
says
that
the
approval
for
the
cdp
is
august
2022,
but
you
said
that
it's
september
yeah.
X
So
it
has
been
a
moving
target
and
but
we
now
have
received
that
it
will
be
received
from
staff
the
notice
that
it
will
be
on
the
september
hearing.
Okay,.
X
Yeah,
so
that
is
what
we're
anticipating
construction
going
for
30
months
so
nearly
three
years,
and
so
again
that
was
our
the
design
life
sort
of
starting
at
you
know,
2025
being
that
that
start
date,
there
will
be
it'll,
be
an
exciting
time
with
our
staff
learning
a
new,
a
new
plant,
and
there
will
be
a
lot
of
that
operational
support.
X
But
it
is.
This
is
a
big
endeavor
and
a
lot
of
we'll
all
be
learning
as
it
continues,
and
I
feel
we
have
supportive
construction
management
contractor
on
board
and
it
will
be
a
big
team
effort.
G
X
That
what
they
weren't
called
those
phases.
Yet
I
think
there
were
four
options.
G
Okay,
so
yeah,
and
so
in
2017.
You
know
I'm
just
thinking
that
I
don't
think
the
we
had
even
thought
about
the
gateway
area
plan.
Yet
I
don't
think
it
was
a
thing.
Yet
when
we
did
that
planning
and
also
you
know
humble
didn't
be
you
know,
we
didn't
know
they
were
going
to
become
a
cal
poly
and
want
to
add
you
know
seven
or
eight
thousand
students,
so
yeah,
it's
just
something.
G
That's
like
you
know,
come
to
mind
that
some
of
this
original
planning-
I
don't
know
you
know
if
we
need
to
update
it
or
reassess
it
to
to
kind
of
take
account,
for
you
know,
potential
growth
of
development
in
the
gateway
area.
You
know,
expansion
by
cal,
poly
and
then.
G
X
You'd
like
so
yes,
so
that's
why
phase
one
is
so
critical
and
important
to
to
have
this
rehab
project
happen
and
happen
efficiently
and
be
able
to
really
meet
the
needs
of
our
our
current
population
and
what
is
heading
towards
the
future.
Our
we
have
the
feasibility
study
that
our
funding
partner
with
the
state
water
board,
you
know,
is
funding
and
that
will
be
looking
at
our
new
population
projections.
X
Also
any
phase
two
planning
we
will
do
we'll
also
be
looking
at.
You
know
we're
not.
We
won't
just
be
planning
for
and
designing
for.
You
know
what
we
have
now.
I
think
it's
clear
that
there
will
be
a
that.
We
need
a
plan
for
a
phase
three.
I
hadn't
used
phase
three,
but
we've
really
been
thinking
about
this
phase.
X
Three,
as
what
could
be
the
results
of
this
feasibility
study
for
what
we
need
to
plan
into
the
future
phase,
two
again
reiterating
that
it
was
really
pre-designed
with
phase
one
for
them
to
work
in
concert
with
one
another,
and
so
I
could
see
of
you
know
after
a
bit
of
phase
one
operating
if
the
data
is
really
showing.
Yes,
we
need
to
move
forward
with
another
oxidation
ditch.
You
know,
I
think
what
encompasses
phase
two
you
know
could
could
change
it.
J
X
Yeah,
I
would
say
we
really
anticipate
more
at
the
end
of
2023..
That
is
what
we've
really
been
talking
with
state
water
board
staff
about,
and
that
would
be
helpful.
You
know
that'll
still
be
when
we're
in
the
construction
for
phase
one,
and
we
know
we
need
to
move
forward
on
what's
our
next
step
for
design.
So
that's
our
that's
the
goal
right
now
end
of
2023.
G
G
With
this
projected
20
growth
factor
yeah,
I
guess
it's
so
it
seems
like
originally
you
know.
Even
I
mean
it
sounds
like
there's
some
hope
that,
with
a
phase
two
that
it
could
potentially
expand
the
capacity,
but
I
I
also
know
that,
like
a
couple
years
ago,
when
I
talked
to
one
of
the
engineers
working
on
the
design,
he
had
said
that
it's
possible
that
a
phase
two
won't
add
to
the
capacity
so
yeah.
G
You
know
taking
keeping
in
mind
that
growth
we
just
talked
about
with
development
in
the
gateway
area
and
humboldt.
You
know
like.
Let's
just
say,
the
gateway
area
only
ends
up
just
to
be
conservative.
It
only
ends
up
to
be
4,
000
people
and
then
humble
wants
to
add,
let's
just
say,
like
7
000,
because
that
seems
conservative
for
humboldt.
So
you
know
it's
11
000
people
and
I
don't
know
what
the
time
frame
would
be
for
those
would
that
be
30
years.
G
Would
that
go
to
2050
so
yeah,
I'm
just
trying
to
kind
of
like
make
it
line
up?
I
guess
yeah.
X
I
think
I
mean
the
key
thing
is
that
city
staff
are
not
thinking
of
the
treatment
plant
project
as
static.
It's
like
we're,
we're
like
all
hands
on
deck
to
get
phase
one
started,
but
it's
that's
not
the
that's
not
the
end,
and
so
that's
what
the
future
planning
that's.
What
we're
you
know
kind
of
thinking
about
every
day
and
are
putting
you
know
the
resources
to
with
our
funding
partner.
G
Okay
and
then
yeah
and
then
again
it
depends
on
it
sounds
like
phase
one
is
gonna,
be
fine,
but
it
depends
on
how
acceptable
phase
two
is
to
the
state
water
quality
control
board
in
the
california
coastal
commission.
X
Yeah-
and
I
mean
I
think,
also
we'll
learn
more
during
that
yeah
during
the
well
during
the
phase,
one
from
the
feasibility
study
from
what
we're
just
you
know,
learning
as
a
city
on
our
own
and
with
our
other
partners.
A
Mine
are
easy,
I
for
the
when
you
mentioned
the
uv,
is
it
replacing
the
chlorine
completely
or
is
it
just
diminishing
the
need
for
it.
X
A
Thank
you
and
then,
when
you
were
talking
about
limiting
in
the
infill
and
infiltration
like
I,
I
understand
or
the
the
infiltration
and
then
the
inflow,
I
get
how
you
limit
the
infiltration.
We
just
need
to
make
our
pipes
better,
but
what?
How
do
you
limit
inflow.
X
A
lot
is
looking
for
illicit
or
unknown
connections
that
go
directly
into
the
sewer
collection
system.
I
mean
a
lot
of
our
city,
a
lot
of
our
city.
Most
cities
have
a
lot
of
old
infrastructure
and
not
all
of
what
is
underground
is
known
or
makes
sense
once
our
staff
are
under
there.
X
And
so,
while
we
have
a
robust
gis
program
and
excellent
feel
utility
field
staff
that
are
also
super
techy
and
really
map
what
we
have
there's
a
lot
still
that
when
we
pothole
we
don't
know
that
was
there
how
that
how
that
worked.
So
that's
kind
of
one
one
aspect
of
those
in
inflow
kind
of
connections-
and
I
don't
know
if
nature
would
add
any
more
okay.
C
Emily
I
wanted
to
ask
you
in
your
photograph
that
you
showed
one
of
the
two
oxidation
ponds
and
I
can.
I
can
actually
put
a
picture
up
too
of
myself
instead
of
just
mine
anyway,
so
I'm
curious
about
in
the
oxidation
pond
one
of
them.
It
looks
like
you're
putting
in
baffles
and
is
that
is
that
what's
happening,
it's
the
one
that
would
be
north
the
furthest
north
one,
and
is
that
because
I
know
you've
been
dealing
with
somewhere
your
blue
frogs
and
were
any
of
those
that
used
in
the
oxidation
areas.
X
Yes,
so
there
has
been
a
kind
of
I'm
not
going
to
use
the
word
phase
because
we've
been
saying
phase
so
much.
X
So
that
can
have
more
kind
of
surface
opportunities
for
that
to
be
treated,
and
then
the
aerators
are
providing
more
of
that
aeration.
What
is
shown
in
this
slide
is
really
focusing
on
having
24
aerators
installed,
with
the
opportunity
for
more
to
be
added
in
the
future.
X
C
Thank
you,
I
can
remember
well,
I
know
that
when
you
reason
you're
doing
these
homes
that
are
selling
it's
really
important,
because
a
lot
of
them
used
to
cook
up
all
their
gutters.
That
went
right
into
the
wastewater
system
and
there
was
a
time
where
you
would
think
that
arcata
was
on
fire
because
all
the
houses
had
smoke
coming
out
of
their
gutter
system
out
of
their
pipes.
C
And
so
I
think
it's
really
important
what
you're
doing
to
continue,
and
the
other
thing
is
the
infiltration
that
we've
had,
and
I
think
you've
made
big
dents
in
that
over
the
years
in
order
to
stim
that
because
we'd
have
well,
I
don't
know,
remember
what
did
you
call
it,
but
when
you
would
have
a
a
large
storm
and
you
could
the
inundation
from
the
some
of
the
areas,
especially
in
the
sunny
bray
area,
was
amazing
and
how
that
caused?
C
What
almost
60
000,
whatever
cubic
feet
that
were
going
into
the
system
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
it
was
so
difficult
to
handle
it.
So
I
think
gradually
all
these
things
have
been
taken,
care
of,
and
we've
seen
more
and
more
way
to
maintain
the
actual
sewage
that
we
have
and
that
we
aren't
dealing
with
them
infiltration
the
same
way
we
were
in
the
past,
I'm
assuming
that's
still
true,
because
you
just
mentioned
how
you
were
doing
that.
C
So
I
think
it's
all
excellent.
I
think
you're
moving
forward
and
and
I'm
glad
to
see,
we
still
have
the
whole
program
that
we
that
arcade
came
became
known
for
originally
the
wastewater
treatment
system
with
the
various
marshes
and
the
and
you
know
all
the
or
the
cloth
and
then
gearheart
and
allen
and
the
all
the
marshes,
because
I
think
that's
one
of
our
unique
things
and
that
it's
still
possible
to
utilize.
It.
G
Yeah,
so
I'm
just
wondering
so,
like
you
know,
I
guess
it's
not
really
hypothetical
hypothetical,
because
it's
probably
gonna
happen
as
hsu
works
to
create
more
housing
for
students.
You
know
how
does
that
work
with
how
we
how
we,
how
they
connect
to
our
system?
You
know,
how
is
there
negotiation
there
and
let's
say
they
built
like
an
eight-story
building,
and
you
know
you
know
a
thousand
students
or
something
do
are
we
mandated
to
do?
We
just
have
to
hook
them
up.
Is
there
any
negotiation?
N
They
do
pay
the
full
hookup
fees
associated
with
that
I'd
have
to
review
the
state
law
to.
I
assume
we
are
at
that
point
mandated
there's
no
other
option
for
their
wastewater,
so
but
yeah
they
do
pay
their
full
freight
and
and
they
do
pay
their.
You
know
not
only
for
hookup
fees
but
for
water
and
sewer
going
forward.
J
I
I
would
add-
and
I
would
add
this
kind
of
as
a
question
and
maybe
a
statement,
but
unless
you
know
I
mean
we
get
to
a
capacity
that
that
we
can't
accommodate
them.
So
what
happens
then
hsu
builds
a
building
and
we
say
no
sorry,
we
can't
hook
up
sewage
for
a
thousand
more
people
we're
at
capacity.
You
know
what
what
happens
in
a
situation
like
that
again,
another
hypothetical,
but
right.
N
We're
going
to
keep
our
planning
going
so
we're
not
that
community.
That
is
the
goal,
but
it
is
driven
through
our
state
water
resources,
control
board
permit
and
they
do
look
at
those
dry
weather
capacity
and
those
dry
weather
flows
every
single
year.
We
pour
it
on.
You
know
all
of
our
parameters
that
were
shared
with
you
this
evening
every
year.
So
that
is
something
that
we're
monitoring
continuously
and
there
are
thresholds
that
kick
in
that
the
state
board
says.
Now.
You
really
need
to
start
your
planning.
C
So
I
would
just
interrupt
that
and
say
that
I
I
feel
like
one
of
the
biggest
things
that
arcade
has
had
to
deal
with
for
years
is
infiltration
and
that
we've
been
doing
that.
Our
kid
has
been
on
that
on
a
regular
basis
for
many
many
years,
and
if
we
can
deal
with
infiltration.
That
gives
us
a
lot
more
capacity.
A
Okay,
let's
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
for
public
input,
just
a
couple
things
before
we
get
going.
So
if
you're
here
in
person
we're
going
to
take
those
in-person
comments
first,
so
please
line
up
then
we'll
go
to
the
online
and
and
once
we
complete
in
person,
we're
complete
and
then
we're
going
to
go
to
online
and
then
we'll
complete
that
so
again,
we're
not
going
back
and
forth
just
another
thing,
I'm
sure
maybe
questions
might
come
up.
Oftentimes
questions
come
up
in
public
input,
but
to
reiterate
staff
staff.
A
Neither
staff
nor
counsel
will
respond
directly
to
those
questions.
However,
at
the
end
of
all
of
the
comments,
sometimes
oftentimes
great
points
or
questions
are
raised
by
the
public,
and
so
a
council
member
will
will
take
it
upon
themselves
to
ask
that
question
directly
to
staff.
So
I
just
want
to
be
clear
because
sometimes
it
it
feels
awkward
when
a
question
is
asked
and
left
hanging
out
there,
that's
just
the
process.
So
let's
go
ahead
and
start
with
in
person
or.
Y
Hello,
chris
richards,
here
glad
to
see
you
all
again,
just
a
couple
of
questions.
I've
got
somebody
drew
arrows
all
over
here
so
see.
If
I
can
follow
this,
so
the
one
question
that
comes
up
is
I've.
Seen
this
the
same
presentation
in
a
slightly
different.
The
way
it
evolves
the
process
is
moving
forward
and
we're
trying
to
figure
this
all
out.
Y
So
this
whole
thing
with
the
20
percent
number
it
came
up
earlier
and
nitra
claimed
that
as
a
safety
factor
like
we
have
a
buffer
for
when
we
reach
to
a
certain
point,
we
want
to
have
x
amount
beyond
what
our
current
capacity
use
is.
Yet
tonight
you
were
calling
it
a
growth
factor.
So
is
that
just
something
you
interchange.
Y
And
then
we've
got
this
whole
thing
about
phase
one
going
through
and
that's
great,
that's
wonderful
or
finally,
you
said
seven
years
or
ten
years
or
longer,
whatever
it
was
and
phase
two
was
originally
designed
to
match
phase
one.
But
what
what's
happened
apparently
is
the
state
board
is
really
wanting
to
see
how
well
it
works,
and
previously
I
asked
you
about
this
30-month
factor
of
the
production
of
doing
phase
one
and
wondering
with
the
number
and
tonight
you
even
said
this
feasibility
study
could
start
this
fall.
Y
Y
That
didn't
kick
in
much
this
year,
but
that
might
change
next
year
and
then
we
we're
also
looking
at
meetings
that
maybe
karen
knows
more
about.
Are
they
going
to
be
willing
to
step
up
for
phase
three
when
we
get
to
there,
because
we,
you
know
if
we
get
there
sooner
than
we
hoped
for
it
would
sure
be
nice
to
have
them
as
partners
rather
than
the
public
pain
or
borrowing
some
bonds
that
are
going
to
be
really
stretched
out
pretty
far.
Y
So
I
I
think
people
should
be
reaching
out
to
cal
poly
and
saying
hey.
Let's
get
your
numbers
up
with
students,
that's
great!
It's
going
to
help
the
community,
but
you
guys
need
to
step
up
to
bat,
and
I
know
that's
been
mentioned.
The
planning
commission,
judith
meyer,
has
brought
that
up
numerous
times
and
I
mean
I
think
it's
something
we
need
to
all
get
together
on
and
really
you
know,
connect
with
those
folks
and
get
some
firm
answers.
Y
I
think
I'm
out
of
time-
and
I
may
have
said
most
of
what
I
wanted
to
say,
but
anyway
I
appreciate
the
input,
I'm
glad
to
see
the
planning
moving
forward.
Thank
you
all
so
much.
O
The
first
point
I'd
like
to
make
is
this
past
weekend
on
saturday
and
sunday
in
the
new
york
times
in
the
front
page
big
section
on
california,
something
that
nobody's
really
thinking
about
that
they're
predicting
massive
storms
in
the
future
and
we're
talking
about
storms
off
of
hawaii
that
are
1500
miles
long
by
three
400
miles
wide
and
we're
talking
about
the
the
volume
of
water
when
it
slams
into
california
between
like
15
to
30
inches
per
storm
one
storm
after
another.
This
is
some
leading
scientists
that
have
that
are
in
this.
O
This
article
that
are
predicting
this
and
we're
talking
about
the
amount
of
water
is
about
25
times
in
the
mississippi
dumping
into
the
ocean
there
in
the
gulf.
So
I
I'm
sure
that
this
isn't
being
part
of
this
tonight,
because
this
is
such
a
new
material,
but
that's
another
factor.
I'd
also
bring
back
to
this
treatment.
Phase
number
one
is
basically
water
quality.
It
seems
like
it's
probably
a
state
mandate
to
make
your
discharges
cleaner
than
they
there
were
in
the
past,
but
looking
to
the
future.
What
still
hasn't
been
addressed
is.
O
Where
is
this?
I
mean
we're
all
in
agreement
at
some
point
in
the
future,
not
exactly
the
date,
but
it
will
go
under
this
the
plant.
So
where
is
that
location
going
to
be?
If
planning
would
be
identifying
that
by
having
somebody
do
the
study
and
then
the
city
securing
that
land
and
not
developing
that
land,
so
that
in
the
future,
we
don't
wipe
out
arcadia
with
the
fact
that
the
plant
goes
under
and
there's
no
way
to
just
treat
our
sewer
and
it
gets
distorted
in
the
bay.
O
So
we
really
need
to
be
addressing
that,
because
the
other
alternatives
are
basically
building
the
levee
system,
which
is
a
lot
of
we're
doing
millions
of
dollars
that
are
they're,
probably
going
to
the
state
for
that
and
there's
progressive
communities
like
in
portland
and
in
europe.
The
dutch
are
basically
going
more
of
the
retreat.
You
know
approach
which
part
of
foundation
of
arcadia
is
bringing
up
how
important
our
wetland
areas
were
and
in
the
1890s
how
they
were.
O
So-
and
I
would
make
the
argument
that
we're
sort
of
you
know
building
on
that
on
the
settlers,
you
know
levy
system
and
we're
not
looking
at
alternatives
that
are
less
expensive
and
the
retreat-
and
this
is
also
part
of
joe
biden's
executive
order
for
innovative
ideas
and
also
it's
a
california
initiative.
It's
called
the
3030
initiative
worldwide
and
I
guess
I'll
send
you
some
more
information
on
that.
But
it's
another
way
of
looking
at
our
area
and
doing
it
in
a
very
smart
way.
That's
more
environmental
friendly.
Q
Good
evening
in
person
this
time,
nice
to
see
you
all,
I
try
to
stay
away
from
indoor
public
settings
has
something
to
do
with
my
age.
Q
In
any
event,
I
wanted
to
raise
a
couple
of
questions.
I
understand
you're
going
to
be
doing
a
feasibility
study
with
respect
to
the
increased
population.
That's
correct,
right,
okay
and
it'd
be
interesting
to
understand
what
your
population
projections
are
likely
to
be
with
respect
to
that
we'd
been
planning
for
4
000..
Now,
what
are
we
going
to
be
talking
about?
It
would
be
nice
to
know
you
indicated
there's
going
to
be
a
parallel
mechanical
system
within
the
core
area
or
that's
part
of
the
plan
or
the
option.
Is
that
the
case?
Q
Q
What
kind
of
standards
do
we
want
for
our
planned
construction
that
we're
talking
about
doing
in
terms
of
saving
water
in
terms
of
limiting
affluent
low
flow,
toilets,
etc?
I
don't
know
if
that's
all
going
to
be
part
of
our
building
standards,
but
I
think
we
should
take
that
into
account
as
ways
to
limit
the
effluent.
That's
going
into
the
system,
there
are
drive.
Q
Q
Let's
see
where
would
we
move
if
we
needed
to
move
assuming
we
start
having
these
great
big
storms,
and
is
there
do
we
have
you
you
mentioned
that
we
can
divert
it
into
our
pawns
as
a
holding
space?
How
much
can
we
divert
if
we
have
one
of
these
huge
storms,
so
I'm
just
raising
some
of
those
questions.
I
don't
know
the
answers
to
any
of
them,
so
I'm
just
raising
them
at
this
time.
Thank
you
so
much
that
was
a
great
presentation.
Q
It
would
be
nice
to
have
one
that
looks
when
we
have
the
feasibility
study.
That
looks
okay.
What
are
we
planning
for
worst
case
scenario
if
we
get
all
this
more
population
quickly
and
if
we
have
these
big
storms?
Thank
you
very
much.
P
P
So
my
first
visit
was
in
1980
when
my
best
friend
was
residence
hall
director
and
we
went
to
the
marsh,
because
some
women
from
eureka
told
us
that
was
the
dump,
and
that
was
a
good
place
to
hang
out
after
going
to
what
was
humbrouse
before
it
was
humble's
toppers,
whatever
anyway
bowling
alley
before.
Obviously,
but
change
happens,
development
happens,
but
there
are
smarter
ways
to
do
things.
P
P
Now
I
go
searching
for
places
that
have
waterless
urinals
because
as
a
man,
you
know
who
needs
any
water
to
get
rid
of
urine,
especially
we
don't
have
to
sit
down,
they
should
invent
a
female
waterless
urinal
and
we
should
stop
thinking.
Dilution
is
a
solution
to
pollution,
just
because
we
have
all
this
water
is
no
reason
to
use
it.
That
way.
P
Now,
let's
go
to
the
water
quality.
What's
coming
in,
I'm
told
that
we
have
to
add
chlorine
to
our
drinking
water,
because
the
state
law
and
the
water
coming
in
from
the
rainy
wells
is
plenty
clean
enough
to
get
by
without
the
chlorine
we
probably
add,
fluoride
for
people's
teeth.
That
should
be
a
choice
and
as
far
as
the
infrastructure
and
with
sunny
brae
I
watched,
I
was
living
there
when
they
relined
the
pipes.
Instead
of
digging
up
the
roads,
they
sent
cameras
down
all
the
pipes
and
they
relined
them.
It
was
super
fast.
P
It
was
efficient
and
obviously
it's
happening
everywhere,
but
they
were
big
companies,
but
it's
really
expensive
and
the
problem
is
it
all
gets
passed
on
poor
people,
while
everyone
gets
rich
off
of
the
development
and
the
money.
The
people
that
live
here
are
being
forced
out
by
the
prices
of
sewer,
garbage
and
they're,
paying
for
people's
ignorance
and
stupidity
and
it's
gotta
end
and
the
rich
people
are
making
money
on
it.
U
U
Around
the
same
time,
I
was
able
to
learn
through
a
course
or
a
presentation
by
alderaan
laird
about
sea
level
rise.
He
had
just
done
his
kayak
trip
around
the
bay
and
such
and-
and
I
just
think
business
as
usual
is
what
has
been
talked
about
tonight
and
it
you
know
the
world
is
not
going
to
be
as
usual,
and
we
need
to
really
be
revolutionary
again
in
how
we
behave
toward
the
future
about
what
we're
talking
about
in
terms
of
treating
human
toilet,
flushings
and
dealing
with
our
drinking
water.
U
We
are
in
a
very
unique
situation
in
california.
I
came
from
santa
barbara
where
drought
is
and
water
conservation
is
just
you
know,
part
of
the
daily
ritual
now
and
we
need
to
do
a
lot
more.
I
went
to
a
coastal
commission
meeting.
They
talked
about
the
indianola
bypass.
U
Then
they
got
the
report
after
they
approved
that
they
got
the
report
from
alderaan
about
sea
level
rise
in
the
bay
and
then
it
was
like
what
are
we
going
to
do
with
the
101
quarter?
Gentleman
talked
about
megafloods,
you
know
we're
talking
about
things
that
band-aids
are
not
going
to
fix
and
fingers
in
the
dikes
are
not
going
to
fix
and
honoring
the
wetlands
and
not
doing
ongoing
settler
type
of
design
with
levee
levies
and
improvements,
and
things
like
that.
U
I
mean
we
really
got
to
be
revolutionary
in
what
we're
thinking
about
and
I'm
sorry
it's
just
like
business
as
usual
ain't
gonna
cut
it.
So
let's
get
our
act
together
and
start
about
retreat.
For
one
thing
you
know:
where
are
we
going
to
build
an
alternative
place
for
those
flushing
toilets
and
the
barrel
district
was
one
of
the
places
that
had
been
pointed
out
as
a
potential
retreat
spot
for
the
existing
marsh?
N
F
Yeah,
hey,
can
you
hear
me?
We
can
oh
good,
okay,
so
yeah,
you
know.
I
appreciate
the
staff
report.
You
know
it's
very
complex
and
very
expensive.
This
suits
your
implants.
I
didn't
really
feel
like.
F
There
was
a
really
quality
answer
to
sarah
schaefer's
question
about
capacity
and
growth,
and
I
think
we
have
to
acknowledge-
and
I
appreciate
also
what
joanne
said
you
know
about
business
as
usual,
but
that
the
not
only
is
the
ecology
changing
that's
going
to
force
changes
to
where
the
sewage
treatment
plant
is
or
how
it's
going
to
work,
but
the
demographics
here
are
going
to
be
changing
rapidly
we're
going
to
get
climate
refugees.
F
The
college
is
expanding
and
I
I
really
don't
hear
that
we
are
taking
this
seriously
in
arcadia.
I
hear
that
though
the
coastal
coastal
commission
and
water
quality
board
will
be
regulating
us,
but
it
really
is
very
common
to
fall
back
on
these
standard
and
maybe
at
one
time
usable
mechanisms
for
change,
but
we
are
in
a
different
situation
now
and
I
I
want
my
our
city
council
to
recognize
that
and
to
seriously
devise
significant
measures
to
address
these
major
changes
in
demographics
and
in
sea
level
rise.
F
You
know,
they're,
we
have
to
the
sewage
treatment
plant
first
of
all
is
revolutionary
and
it
is
already
revolutionary
and
which
I
would
say
to
joanne
and
wonderful
and
we're
so
lucky
to
have
it
and
it's.
But
it's
not
gonna
hold
up
to
what
is
coming
yeah
in
when
I
was
in
sonoma
county,
which
is
where
I'm
from.
I
saw
the
growth
down
there.
F
I
worked
as
a
reporter
for
a
few
years
in
the
mid
80s
and
then
I
went
back
and
did
it
for
a
few
more
years
in
the
early
90s
and
I
covered
santa
rosa
and
the
politics
and
expansion
there,
which
we've
saw
explode
and
they
the
city,
offered
its
residents
and
the
rest
of
the
county,
which
is
affected
by
its
growth,
very
similar
guarantees
in
terms
of
sewage
capacity.
F
And
then
they
were
in
such
a
bind
that
there
were
these
emergency
dumps
into
the
russian
river
and
they
wanted
to
build
a
reservoir
in
the
last,
only
real
native
forest
around
the
petaluma
area
and
dump
it
all
there
and
it.
It
was
amazing
and
they
were
spending
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
in
fines
and
in
these
measures.
So
I
think
we
really
do
need
to
think
differently.
N
S
S
But
I
I
just
actually
have
been
started.
Educating
myself
about
this
issue
recently
and
I
came
across
an
article
by
michael
machi,
which
appeared
in
the
mad
river
union
in
march.
S
S
S
So
I'm
wondering
like
other
people,
if
you're,
if
you
you're,
prepared
for
the
worst
case
scenario-
and
you
know,
life
will
be
underwater
in
five
years
and
a
lot
of
the
infrastructure
south
of
of
samoa
and
west
of
old
arcata
road.
So
do
you
have
a
plan
in
order
to
relocate
the
sewage
treatment
plant
in
critical
infrastructure
and
businesses?
S
And
if
you
don't
have
a
plan
for
that,
then
I
think
you're
not
looking
out
for
the
health
and
safety.
I
hate
to
say
it,
but
you
know,
arcata
residents
are
better
than
that
and
I
strongly
encourage
you
to
put
together
an
advisory
board
made
up
of
professionals,
engineers,
climate
experts,
wetlands
and
sewage
treatment
experts.
S
Who
can
advise
you
about
just
how
much
density
our
aging
infrastructure
can
withstand,
and
I'm
not
sure
you
can
build
on
a
mud
surface,
build
an
eight-story
building
on
wetlands
and
guarantee
that
that
those
buildings
are
going
to
stand
for.
You
know
decades
to
come
anyway.
I
really
appreciate
your
time
and
urge
you
to
get
an
advisory
board
together
and
protect
the
health
and
safety
of
all
arcade
residents.
Thank
you.
G
Yeah,
I
feel
like
what
we've
heard
here
tonight
is
that
the
cities
and
cal
poly's
humble
cal,
poly
humboldt's.
You
know
potential
development
plans
are
far
outpacing
our
work
to
provide
the
necessary
infrastructure,
and
I
wholeheartedly
believe
that
the
staff
is
doing
absolutely
everything
possible
that
they
can
moving
stuff.
G
Is
you
know
forward
as
fast
as
they
can
and
it
sounds
like
we
do
have
plans
to
find
solutions,
but
just
the
reality
of
it
is
that
you
know
these
things
are
going
to
take
several
years
to
you
know,
maybe
even
just
do
studies
before
we
can
move
forward
with
more
planning.
So
yeah
I
mean,
if
you
know
the
staff
is
doing
everything
possible,
but
it's
just
the
reality
of
it.
G
Is
that
that
planning
and
that
work
isn't
able
to
kind
of
keep
pace
with
development
plans,
then
it
seems
like
the
only
option
is
to
maybe
try
to
slow
down
some
of
those
development
plans
a
little
bit,
so
we
could
catch
up
with
our
infrastructure.
G
So
you
know,
I
think,
it'd
be
really
important
to
have
this
conversation
with
cal
poly
humboldt.
You
know
I
mean
what,
if
you
know
they
can
build
stuff.
They've
got
a
lot
more
money.
You
know
over
400
million
dollars
right,
so
they
can
throw
up
buildings
and
you
know-
maybe
they
just
for
example,
they
build
stuff
faster,
that
we
can
improve
the
gateway
plan
and
get
into
track
developers.
G
You
know,
there's
a
feasible
scenario
where
they
take
up
our
capacity
with
the
wastewater
treatment
plan,
so
I
mean
it
seems
like
it
would
make
sense
to
have
that
kind
of
conversation
with
them.
You
know,
I
think,
in
a
reasonable
world,
we
could
come
to
agreement
with
them.
You
know
about
some
of
their
plans
and
how
it's
going
to
affect
our
wastewater
treatment,
plant
and
yeah
other
than
that.
I
think,
was
a
great
presentation
and
I
you
know
really
appreciate
everybody.
That's
been
paying.
Attention
is
involved
in
it.
A
So
just
to
wrap
it
up.
I
want
to
do
something
a
little
bit
differently,
because
there
were
a
lot
of
questions
and
concerns
raised.
So
just
if
staff,
if
there's
anything
that
you
feel
led
to
respond
to,
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
that
opportunity-
absolutely
you
don't
have
to,
but
if
there's
things
that
you'd
like
to
respond
to
or
address,
you
know,
I'd
like
to
give
you
that
chance.
X
Sure,
thank
you,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
in
this
presentation.
I
appreciate
also
of
people
that
were
also
at
the
planning
commission
on
june
14th
had
a
similar
presentation
with
you
know
some
updated
information
and
timelines
tonight
I
did
want
to
just
clarify
about
the
20
growth
factor,
and
that
was
a
term
that
was
used
in
the
facilities
plan
and
from
2017,
and
also
in
the
sequa
document
for
the
phase
one
project
and
so
as
nature.
As
our
city
engineer,
you
know
really
pointed
out,
that
is,
that
was
considered
a
factor
of
engineering
safety.
X
The
secret
document
also
really
refers
to
the
you
know
in
intention
or
the
the
planning
for
one
percent
of
growth
per
year
as
the
phase
one
project
was
designed
and
intended
to
serve
the
current
population
and
replace
aging
infrastructure.
So
there
are
interchangeable
terms,
but
I
wanted
to
use
what
was
in
that
facility's
plan.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
So
we
we
have
another,
probably
lengthy
topic.
Next,
so
let's
go
ahead
and
take
a
five
minute
break,
we'll
come
back
at
8
15..
So
thank
you.
A
J
Thank
you
mayor.
We
will
wait
for
you
to
leave
no
okay.
So,
yes,
we're
on
to
new
business.
We
have
scott
mcbain
here
to
present
this
request
and
jane,
I
believe
as
well.
So
if
you
guys
want
to
come
up
and
get
on
started,
we
are
ready
to
hear
what
you
have
for
us.
Z
Great
thank
you
good
evening,
everybody
I'm
again
scott
mcbain
and
my
co-presenters
jane
woodward.
She
was
a
member
of
the
plaza
improvement
task
force,
so
she
has
more
direct
experience
with
task
force
processes
than
I
do
first
hand,
but
I
just
again
want
to
kind
of
first
reaffirm
that
our
intent
here
is
to
help
the
city
produce
a
balanced,
high
quality
gateway
plan
that
we're
proud
of
today
in
the
next
20
years.
We're
not
anti-gateway
or
pro-gateway.
So
just
want
to
say
that
again,
because
there's
some
confusion
about
that.
Z
So
this
isn't
an
unusual
thing
and
the
advisory
committee
is
in,
I
guess,
is
kind
of
like
the
same
thing
as
a
task
force.
So
there's
some
issues
on
which
terms
we
use,
but
the
objective
for
us
tonight
is
just
to
allow
you
to
consider
this
proposed
strategy
and
discuss
the
value
and
benefit
of
an
advisory
committee.
If
you
choose
to
establish
one-
and
this
is
similar
to
what
we
presented
at
the
planning
commission
last
week,
but
we
made
some
revisions
based
on
that
discussion.
Z
So
next,
karen
so
again,
you
know
our
letter
that
you
have
in
your
packet
on
page
81.
We
there's
a
lot
of
signatories
that
support
this
and
a
lot
of
these
signatories.
You
know
86
and
counting
support
this
largely
because
this
has
been
a
successful
process
that
we've
used
in
the
past
and
it
consists
of
a
wide
range
of
arcata
community
members,
previous
task
force,
members,
city,
government,
representatives,
professors,
local
community
service,
district,
folks,
engineers,
scientists,
planners
developers,
business
owners
renters.
Z
So
it's
really
diverse
and
I
was
really
pleased
just
to
see
everybody
came
out
of
the
woodwork
that
wanted
to
see
this
happen,
particularly
folks
that
have
participated
in
this
before
next
so
kind
of
the
brief
overview
of
the
organization
wanted
us
to
talk
about
some
of
the
problems
that
we're
trying
to
solve
with
an
advisory
committee.
The
objectives
of
the
advisor
committee,
the
strategy
of
the
committee
to
address
these
problems,
framework
of
the
committee
or
potential
framework
of
the
committee
and
benefits
anticipated
benefits
of
the
advisory
committee.
Z
Next,
so
some
of
the
problems-
and
this
isn't
necessarily
all
of
them-
that
we're
trying
to
solve,
but
just
as
a
framework
we're
starting
in
the
upper
left-hand
corner
of
the
content
of
the
plan.
There's
you
know
a
lot
of
community
concerns.
You've
heard
about
about
divisive
or
divergent
input
is
the
term
that's
been
used
by
city
staff.
Z
We
call
it
priority
issues
just
to
you
know,
they're,
just
issues
that
we
need
to
try
to
address,
and
these
things
include
things
like:
participatory,
community
engagement,
limited
data,
quantitative
data
on
community
input
and
desires
in
the
gateway
area,
feasibility
issues
that
we
heard
about
earlier
today,
kind
of
the
vision
of
what
we
want
here
and
some
of
the
proposed
actions
in
the
draft
plan,
as
we
all
know,
so,
that's
kind
of
the
content,
city,
time
and
resources
we're
very
cognizant
of
city
staff's
time
and
resources
that
you
know.
We
don't
want
to
waste
time.
Z
They
have
a
large
workload
and
staff
and
committees
are
have
challenges
to
do
both
the
gateway
plan
and
the
general
plan
update
at
the
same
time,
there's
also
challenges
with
grant
funding,
as
we've
talked
about
potential
loss
of
funding
depending
on
timelines
and
potential
additional
funding
needs.
So
I
just
want
to
be
aware
of
those
completion
timeline.
Z
We
want
to
get
this
done
as
fast
as
we
can,
but
we
also
need
the
time
to
do
the
plan
right
and
have
a
good
quality
plan,
including
better
community
input,
support
and
trust,
and
then
another
one
is
just
a
recusal
uncertainty
since
there's
only
four
of
you.
There
now
there's
many
uncertainties
about
potential
city,
council
and
committee
members
that
may
have
to
recuse
themselves
from
discussions
of
the
general
plan
2045
process,
if
it's
combined
with
the
gateway
plan,
which
would
be
kind
of
a
shame
under
one
eir
project
next,
so
the
objectives.
Z
Next,
this
is
kind
of
one
of
the
key
things
that
we've
been
hoping
for
is
to
implement
a
more
balanced
community
engagement
strategy
for
months.
G
This
stop
you
really
quick
yeah!
That's
your
comment
earlier
about
four
of
us
there's
just
three
of
us
attending
this.
This
item
right.
G
Okay,
so
I
was
just
curious
about
that.
I
know
her
property's
150
feet
away
from
the
boundary,
so
it
seems
like
based
off
of
fppc
guidance
in
the
past
that
it
would
be
expected
that
she
recused
herself
and
I'm
just
curious
what
the
logic
is
right
now
of
her
attending.
C
I
don't
see
any
problems
with
talking
about
this.
I
mean
it's
the
same
as
you're
able
to
attend
all
these
meetings,
and
you
have
a
harassment
issue
with
the
city
of
council
and
the
city
of
arcata,
and
at
this
point
I'm
doing
what
I'm
supposed
to
be
doing
and
finding
out
whether
I
will
have
a
conflict
or
not
until
then,
I'm
part
of
the
group,
as
you
are
brett.
G
Okay,
yeah,
I
mean,
I
just
think
it's
it's
not
within
the
fppc
guidelines
that
are
pretty
clear,
so
just
express.
Z
Okay,
thank
you
sorry,
so
so
reboot.
So
where
we've
kind
of
felt
with
the
current
process
is
that
we've
been
in
the
consult
phase
where
you
know
again,
part
of
this
is
coveted,
but
we've
been
able
to
provide
public
feedback,
but
there's
no
cause
and
effect.
It's
not
a
two-way
discussion
about
how
to
solve
some
of
these
problems,
and
I
think
what
we'd
really
like
to
get
to
on
this.
Z
Spectrum
is
in
the
collaborate
phase,
where
we
partner
with
the
public
in
identifying
solutions
to
these
problems,
and
this
is
where
we're
so
fortunate.
In
the
city
of
arcata,
we've
got
some
really
smart
people,
creative
people
here
that
can
help
solve
these
problems.
It's
not
getting
over
to
the
far
right
side,
where
they're
making
decisions.
That's
your
your
job,
but
there's
just
a
lot
of
help
that
the
community
can
provide
here
next,
so
with
a
maybe
a
bit
more
engaged,
more
better
engagement
strategy.
Z
Z
We
call
them
again
priority
issues
to
address,
and
you
know
we
need
to
kind
of
address
these
things
in
a
in
a
way
that
we
can
build
trust
and
we've
been
working
with
kind
of
on
our
own
list
of
initial
of
priority
issues
based
on
input
we've
received
in
the
community
and
we'd
like
to
provide
that
kind
of
information
to
use
leading
into
the
joint
study
session.
Z
But
the
main
point
that
we're
recommending
the
advisory
committee
can
focus
on
these
priority
issues
and
build
from
what's
being
done
to
date.
I'm
not
start
from
scratch,
so
it's
kind
of
a
focused
approach,
so
we're
not
like
starting
all
over
and
rebooting
the
thing.
It's
really
just
focusing
on
these
priority
issues
next
and
recommendations
for
completing
the
final
gateway
plan
on
an
expedited
but
achievable
timeline.
Z
So
we
wanted
implemented
quickly,
but
with
quality
feasibility,
innovation
and
balance
to
provide
a
healthy
community
for
housing,
businesses,
employment,
transportation
and
livability.
So
these
are
really
important
to
to
the
community.
I
think
next
so
kind
of
two
big
main
strategies
that
we're
suggesting
here.
The
first
is
to
separate
the
gateway
plan
from
the
general
plan,
2045
process
and
this
kind
of
gets
at
this
issue
of
recusal
issues.
Z
If
these
two
things
are
combined,
we're
just
worried
that
we're
not
going
to
have
full
city
council
participation
in
the
general
plan
up
update.
So
separating
these
things
out,
this
issue
hasn't
been
resolved
for
a
while,
as
we
can,
we
just
saw
so
it'd
be
really
desirable
to
have.
You
know
full
city,
council
representation
on
general
plan
2045
update,
and
this
could
help
do
that
by
doing
this,
it
also
provides
time
with
elections
coming
up.
Z
If
there's
newly
elected
city
council
members,
that
can
be
sworn
in,
get
up
to
speed
and
fully
participate
in
the
process
and
overall,
this
gives
the
city
more
time
to
focus
on
the
general
plan.
2045,
the
gateway
plan
has
kind
of
sucked
a
lot
of
the
oxygen
out
of
the
room
and
we
haven't
really
talked
much
about
the
general
plan
update.
Z
So
that's
one
big
piece,
so
the
second
big
piece
is
in
parallel
to
have
the
gateway
plan,
advisory
committee
or
task
force,
focus
on
the
gateway
plan
to
assist
staff
and
trying
to
implement
some
of
the
objectives
I
talked
about
earlier,
so
focus
on
addressing
and
recommending
solutions
to
those
priority
issues
again,
not
start
from
scratch
these,
and
then
that
the
advisory
committee
would
provide
recommendations
on
how
to
finalize
the
gateway
plan,
but
not
actually
working
on
the
gateway
plan,
and
these
recommendations
would
go
to
would
recommend
to
the
city
council
at
a
medium
at
a
minimum,
so
they're
not
actually
working
on
the
gateway
plan
itself.
Z
So
this
approach,
you
know,
was
used
for
this
by
the
city
general
plan,
2020
and
again
advisory
committees
are
have
been
suggested
by
the
office
of
planning
and
research
as
a
strategy
and
tool
for
these.
So
this
isn't
an
unusual
sort
of
thing.
It's
pretty
normal.
How
other
communities
are
doing
this
next
next,
so
just
kind
of
a
framework
on
how
this
could
happen.
Z
Those
members
should
be
people
that
are
willing
to
volunteer
their
time
for
the
good
of
the
future
city
of
arcata,
and
we,
the
the
role
of
this
committee
we
envision,
is
to
provide
to
lead
and
manage
the
process
with
assistance
from
city
staff
and
but
hopefully
minimizing
staff.
Time
demands,
although
there
will
need
to
be
some
particularly
for
liaison
and
facilitation,
hopefully
with
a
contracted
city
facilitator
next.
Z
So,
ideally,
small
groups
of
topical
experts,
four
to
six
people
that
could
really
dig
into
an
issue,
brainstorm
potential
solutions
and
address
those
issues
in
a
more
transparent
way
for
public
consumption,
ideally
as
well,
and
we
could
also
bring
in
outside
experts
via
zoom
as
needed
for
assistance
on
specific
issues
that
we
don't
have.
The
expertise
in-house
to
to
address
but
again
build
from.
Z
What's
been
been
done,
focusing
on
priority
issues
not
starting
over
next,
and
that
this
advisory
committee
would
closely
interact
with
the
existing
city,
staff,
planning,
commission
and
committees
as
needed
and
consultants
during
normal
meetings,
and
so
we're
just
trying
to
find
a
good
balance
for
good
information
exchange,
but
not
undue
burden
on
staff
and
consultants.
So,
consultations
of
initial
recommendations
and
feedback
and
coordination
and
guidance
and
return
next
and
that
the
normal
processes
would
still
continue
communication
between
staff
planning,
commission
and
recommendations
still
going
to
city
council.
Z
This
was
a
question
that
came
up
during
the
planning,
commission
and
then,
lastly,
is
kind
of
the
other
important
part
is
the
community
engagement
process.
As
I
mentioned
a
couple
slides
ago,
the
ideal
here
is
for
collaborative
community
engagement
in
this
process.
So
there's
kind
of
like
three
core
things
that
we're
looking
for
here.
One
is
to
conduct
a
rapid
survey,
the
community
quantitative
survey
to
obtain
quantitative
data
on
community
desires
in
the
gateway
area,
vision
and
priority
issues.
Z
Z
The
second
piece
of
this
would
just
be
through
those
topical
experts
participating
in
the
topic
working
groups
through
a
transparent
reporting
of
outcomes.
So
they
can
do
this
work.
Write
white
papers
summaries
to
summarize
what
they've,
what
the
outcomes
are
and
then
two-way
public
engagement
workshops
by
the
advisory
committees
to
share
with
the
public,
what's
been
learned
and
have
opportunity
for
dialogue
next.
Z
So
another
question
that
came
up
was
so:
what's
the?
What
are
the
products
that
you
see
the
advisory
committee?
Doing
and
fundamentally
it's
a
recommendations,
report
to
city
councils,
decision
makers,
so
there's
I
could
see
three
pieces
of
this.
We
could
see
three
pieces.
One
is
just
a
synthesis
of
community
engagement.
One
would
just
be
the
new.
A
new
quantitative
survey
that
could
be
done
very
rapidly.
Z
So
hopefully
that
kind
of
clarifies
some
ideas
there.
Next,
so
potential
criteria
for
membership.
You
know
we
haven't
like
thrown
out
names
for
who
should
be
on
this
and
focused
on
the
criteria.
So
one
of
the
things
that
obviously
we
want
is
objective
problem
solvers
here
that
have
given
the
role
of
the
advisory
committee
that
has
leadership
and
management
skills
committed
to
completing
a
high
quality
gateway
plan,
strategic
and
time
efficient.
To
get
things
done.
So
we
can
get.
This
done
quickly.
Z
So
this
is
just
kind
of
a
list
of
potential
topics:
it's
not
a
recommendation
on
all
the
topical
work
groups.
That
would
be
the
responsibility
of
the
advisory
committee
to
develop,
but
it's
just
kind
of
the
range
of
topics
that
we
think
are
important
to
consider
by
the
advisory
committee.
So
some
of
this
stuff
will
be
done
in
a
more
quantitative
way
in
the
eir,
but
we
feel
that
initial
analyses
of
most
of
these
should
be
done
in
the
gateway
plan
to
assess
feasibility
issues.
Z
So
we
don't
get
too
far
down
the
path
of
a
final
gateway
plan
and
then
find
out
in
the
eir
that
oops
that's
not
going
to
work
because
it
costs
too
much
or
we
there's
some
other
constraint.
We
have
to
start
over.
So
some
of
the
examples
are,
you
know,
making
sure
that
we
have.
We
ought
and
other
underrepresented
groups
input
engaged
in
this
fire
district
services
that
we've
heard
a
lot
about
physical
feasibility
for
the
city,
sea
level,
rise
and
wastewater
treatment
that
we
talked
about
earlier
this
today.
Z
Next
so
potential
steps
and
timeline
for
this
again
we're
trying
to
do
this
fast
that
it's
going
to
take
more
time
to
do
so.
The
first
step
would
be
with
city
council,
with
staff
with
assumed
staff.
Assistants
would
take
lead
on
appointments
in
the
scope
of
work,
ideally
having
a
kickoff
meeting
of
the
advisory
committee
by
october.
Z
That's
done
to
inform
you
guys
and
then
the
real
work
would
begin
with
the
topic
working
groups
addressing
those
priority
issues
between
say,
november
and
april
23,
so
four
to
six
month
process
where
they'd
roll
their
sleeves
up
and
get
work
done
and
then
and
then
the
advisory
committee
would
synthesize
that
information
and
convene
public
engagement
workshops.
So
there
could
be
one
or
two
of
those,
perhaps
in
may
and
get
better
community
engagement
feedback
on
what
the
advisory
committee
has
learned
and
what
they
may
recommend.
Z
And
then
then,
the
advisory
committee
could
then
develop
a
draft
recommendations.
Report
presentation
to
city
council
and
planning
commission
get
feedback
and
based
on
that
feedback
and
direction,
prepare
final
recommendations,
report
to
city
council
for
consideration
and
then
based
on
city
council
direction,
city
staff
and
consultant
team
would
begin
work
on
the
final
gateway
plan,
not
the
advisory
committee.
Z
Z
That's
part
of
your
job
is
to
make
those
hard
decisions,
but
at
least
you
have
the
information
and
it's
more
transparent,
and
I
think
the
community
can
be
more
comfortable
if
you're.
If
you
have
that
information
at
hand,
I
think
that'll
be
a
big
improvement
again
improves
trust,
buy-in
and
support
from
the
community.
So
we
can
transition
from
making
two-minute
speeches
at
all
the
committee
meetings
to
actually
helping
solve
these
problems.
It
just
feels
a
lot
more
like
we're
actually
doing
something
to
help
the
process
better.
Z
Next
and
we
can
address
feasibility
issues
are
better
addressed.
So
if
we
can
dive
into
these
things
a
little
bit
more
and
do
reporting
to
address
some
of
these
things,
that
will
help
improve
the
implementability
of
the
gateway
plan.
So
we've
actually
thought
through
some
of
these
or
work
through
some
of
these
things
in
a
little
bit
more
detail,
and
so
the
arcade
wastewater
treatment
facility
is
a
good
example
of
how
that
could
be
done.
Z
Z
Z
So
this
won't
solve
the
city
council
and
committee
recusal
issues
for
the
gateway
plan,
but
it
should
help
solve
them
for
the
general
plan
2045.
Z
Next,
and
so
I'm
done
here-
but
I
just
did
also
want
to
give
you
a
few
next
steps,
we're
working
on
addressing
the
great
comments
and
questions
that
were
provided
by
the
planning
commission
just
that
we
have
a
written
summary
of
that.
I
just
we
just
haven't
had
time
to
finish
that
up
so
we'd
like
to
get
that
done
prior
to
the
joint
study
session.
We
also
have
a
pretty
good
draft
of
a
potential
framework
for
implementation.
J
Great,
thank
you.
Scott.
Do
we
want
to
take
public
comment
first,
just
to
kind
of
hear
what
the
rest
of
the
public
has
to
say
and
then
have
our
discussion.
Or
do
we
want
to
open
some
questions
that
we
might
have.
G
H
D
D
It
up
to
public
comment
thanks
alex.
Thank
you,
I'd
like
to
ask
some
questions.
First,
and
then
we
can
open
up.
D
Maybe
the
public
comment
will
bring
up
some
more
questions,
but
I
think
some
questions
are
a
good
place
to
start,
because
I
did
watch
the
planning
commission
meeting
and
I
feel
like
some
of
the
questions
that
they
brought
up
or
some
of
the
same
questions
I
have
and
first
of
all
I
want
to
thank
you.
That
was
a
very
comprehensive
and
well
thought
out
presentation,
but
the
one
thing
that
I
keep
coming
back
to
is:
how
is
this
well
first?
D
How
is
this
not
duplicative
of
the
many
committees
that
we
already
have
that
are
providing
you?
We
have
transportation,
we
have
parks
and
we
have
wetlands
and
historic
buildings
and
dc,
and
I
understand
because
I
did
you
know
I
I
heard
eugene-
and
I
know
that
sometimes
it's
it's
really
hard
to
coax
some
good
feedback
out
of
them.
D
Z
There's
two
two
main
things:
one
is
that-
and
I
think
I
mentioned
this
during
the
planning
commission
meeting
different
committees
have
different
rules
on
on
how
you
can
provide
input
and
so,
like
I've
been
participating
more
recently
with
the
wetlands
and
creeks
and
they're
very
generous
on
time.
So
you
can
actually
have
a
conversation,
but
others
aren't
so
like
I
think
one
last
night
we
got
six
90
seconds
to
provide.
You
know
each
person
got
90
seconds.
Z
Z
The
example
that
I
gave
with
the
planning
commission,
like
with
the
topical
work
groups,
is
you
can
bring
in
experts
that
aren't
here
that
that
aren't
doing
the
two
minutes
and
you
can
actually
roll
up
your
sleeves
and
address
these
problems.
You
can
recruit
experts
to
help
you
work
through
those
issues.
D
A
D
Make
presentations
to
us-
and
I
found
that
was
really
useful
and
I
would
encourage
the
liaisons
to
these
committees
to
you
know,
seek
out
ways
to
do
that
and
incorporate
that
into
the
committees.
The
other.
The
other
question
that
I
have
is
you
know
we
keep
saying
we
want
to
reach
these
underrepresented
people
and
get
their
feedback.
D
The
the
question
I
have
is
that
these
are
the
same
people
that,
for
the
last
I
don't
know
year
year
and
a
half
haven't
been
giving
feedback,
even
though,
because
they're
like
me,
you
know
they're
single
moms
at
one
point
or
they
work
two
jobs
or
you
know,
and
they
just
they
don't
have
time.
Then
what
makes
you
think
that
all
of
a
sudden
these
people
are
gonna
have
time
to
be
on
this
committee.
Z
Well,
they
don't
necessarily
need
to
be
on
the
committee,
but
as
far
as
like
getting
input
from
them,
I
think
that
the
that
committee,
members
and
and
community
leaders
that
are
in
those
neighborhoods
or
in
those
groups
can
help
get
those
folks
to
participate
and
it
may
be
different
than
having
a
you
know
a
publicly
announced
meeting
at
city
hall
and
say
well
come
if
you
can,
I'm
not
saying
that's
what
staff
have
done,
but
there
may
be
other
ways
again.
You
can
get
the
community
to
help
pull
the
community
back
in.
Z
D
Yeah
and
I'm
sorry
nick
I'm
not
a
single
mother
anymore.
So
what
I
did
appreciate,
can
you
put
up
that
last
slide?
D
I
think
when
you
were
talking
about
having
a
potential
framework
for
implementation,
because
from
what
I
understand
you
don't
want
to
be
on
this
committee.
D
Right,
so
I
think
that
it's
really
important
that
whoever,
if
such
a
committee
was
formed,
would
have
these
steps
to
take
the
the
one
thing
you
know
what
I'm
going
to.
Let
some
other
people
ask
questions.
Thank
you
very
much.
J
I
just
wanted
to
ask-
and
this
might
be
more
of
a
question
for
for
karen
just
to
kind
of
clarify,
because
the
language
is
getting
confusing
so
because
there's
a
difference
between
a
task
force
and
like
a
like
a
if
we
created
like
a
city
council
subcommittee
or
I
guess
that
could
be
like
a
subcommittee-
could
be
like
an
advisory
committee.
So
I
mean
what
is
the
difference
between
that
and
then
within
that
my
my
thinking.
J
Here's
a
long
question
again
with
with
a
full
explanation,
but
you
know
agreeing
a
little
bit
with
council
member
matthews
here
just
about
the
worry
of
finding
quality
members
for
this
committee
through
an
application
process
that
is
different
than
what
we
already
have
on
the
committees
and
coupled
with
that
kind
of
a
worry
about
attendance
of
those
those
groups
and
kind
of
keeping
on
the
schedule.
And
how
can
we?
J
You
know,
kind
of
force,
a
group
that
keeps
on
this
schedule
and
then
also
cast
a
wide
enough
net,
because
I
think
that
if
we
just
say
hey
we're
gonna
have
an
advisory
committee.
Let's
take
some
applications
that
we're
not
going
to
target
and
get
who
we
want
on
this
group.
But
if
we
say
we
want
an
expert
on
sea
level
rise,
we
want
somebody
who
works
in
the
fire
department.
We
want
somebody
who's,
a
developer.
J
We
want
somebody
from
the
neighborhood,
you
know
and
to
be
able
to
kind
of
more
target
that-
and
you
know,
get
get
that
interest
of
people
that
actually
are
going
to
be
valuable
to
this
group,
not
just
like
yeah
I'll,
be
on
a
committee
that
sounds
fun.
You
know
people
and
to
really
you
know,
choose
the
experts
that
we
want
in
the
room.
So
I'll
ask
my
first
question
before
I
grandstand
but
yeah
like
what
would
be
the
difference
between
a
official
task
force,
an
advisory
committee,
a
city
council
subcommittee.
N
It's
a
good
question
and
and
I'll
try
to
give
you
as
straight
of
an
answer
as
I
can
I
mean
the
straight
answer
would
be
we
can
create.
Whatever
the
council
wishes
to
have
created
standard
in
the
city,
advisory
committees
are
long-standing
and
ongoing
task
force
have
a
discrete
task,
a
discrete
timeline,
a
discrete
problem
to
solve
goals
to
create
and
a
recommendation
to
make.
So
what
I've
heard
described
here
tonight
would
fit
within
what
typically
the
city
would
refer
to
as
a
task
force.
N
A
council
and
or
a
planning
commission
subcommittee
could
be
a
couple
of
things
it
could
be
in
this
case.
It
would
just
be
two
council
members
with
the
planning
commission.
If
they
had
a
subcommittee,
they
could
have
three
because
they
have
seven
members
on
the
planning
commission
and
then,
if
you
wanted
a
subcommittee
that
then
had
additional
members,
you
could
create
that,
like
you
said,
we
want
a
member
from
the
fire
department
we
want.
You
know
we
really
are
looking
for
a
tenant
that
currently
lives
in
the
gateway
area.
N
You
could
create
that
we
have
never
in
the
past,
considered
stipending
or
paying
people
for
participation
in
a
committee,
but
if
there
was
particular
expertise
that
you
wanted
to
come
and
say,
provide
presentation
or
provide,
you
know.
The
meetings
to
me
when
I
look
at
this
type
of
body
of
work
is
not
the
real
cost
and
burden
on
staff.
It's
the
development
of
the
recommendations
and
the
data,
and
you
know
the
building
of
the
information
that
that
the
task
force
or
advisory
group
needs
to
be
able
to
make
well-informed
recommendations
to
the
council.
N
So
you
know
we
would
just
have
to,
I
think,
figure
out
what
are
sort
of
the
key
topic
areas
between
the
council
and
the
planning
commission,
that
you
definitely
want
additional
information
and
we
could
work
on
trying
to
create
a
system
where
we
did
identify
some
experts
in
those
fields
that
the
council
may
even
wish
to
stipend
or
support
their
contributions
to
the
group.
For
that
professional
expertise,
I
mean
that's
just
off
the
top
of
my
head
tonight,
so
we
certainly
could
discuss
that
further
and
certainly
could
discuss
that
with
the
the
planning
commission.
D
Yeah-
and
I
know
that
we
are
going
to
agendize
this
for
our
study
session,
but
I
do
think
the
idea
of
a
subcommittee
does
sound
very
enticing
to
me
and
the
the
one
thing
that
I
think
that's
not
focused
on
in
any
of
these
committees
that
I
would
really
be
interested
in
diving
into
the
real
meat
of
is
the
whole
idea
behind
these
form-based
codes.
I
think
that's
something
that
would
be
a
really
great
thing
to
kind
of
hone
in
on,
because.
D
I
think
that's
something
that
most
people
really
do
not
have
any
idea.
You
know
what
they
are
and
I
think,
having
experts
to
talk
about
that.
I
like
the
idea
of
possibly
you,
know
getting
stipends.
I
don't
know
I
mean
we'd
have
to
talk
about
that
more,
but
to
get
true
committed
experts.
If
that's
something
that
needs
to
happen.
C
So
last
night,
the
plan
I
watched
about
seven
hours,
the
planning
commission
meetings.
You
know
the
last
two
that
they
had
and
I
watched
them
grapple
with
all
the
issues
that
are
brought
forward
by
scott
and
they
seem
to
be
making
progress.
Now
if
they
need
to
bring
in
some
experts
on
certain
areas,
they
have
been
doing
it
and
they
could
ask
for
more
for
whatever
they
might
need.
But
the
planning
commission
encouraged
citizens
to
participate
last
night
in
the
online
form-based
code
that
they
had.
C
It
was
from
six
to
eight
but
actually
ended
about
7
45
and
where
they
were
able
to
talk
about
them
and
they
had
about
50
some
people
and
they
were
asking
how
you
felt
about
all
the
different
areas
that
they're
proposing
you
know
they
have
the
barrel.
C
They
have
the,
I
can't
remember
all
the
names
but
and
then
you
could
vote
on
them
because
they
had
a
voting
system
for
it
and
it
was
overwhelmingly
in
support
in
all
the
areas
for
the
heights
requirements,
and
I
thought
that
was
really
interesting,
that
it
was-
and
I
think
the
planning
commission
in
many
ways
would
would
we
be
taking
away
from
the
planning,
commission
and
their
job.
If
we
set
up
this
sub
this
additional.
I
don't
know
what
you're
you
know.
C
You
asked
all
the
names
what
it
could
be
called
from
them
and
what
would
that
do
to
our
timeline
for
our
housing
element,
because
I
know
the
housing
element
is
something
the
state
is
extremely
interested
in
and
they
would
like
to
have
it.
I
think
it's
supposed
to
be
done
by
the
end
of
august
and
if
this
committee
came
in
with
the
and
they
would
have
to
get
educated,
they
would
use
staff's
time
and
we'd
talk
about
how
limited
our
staff
is
and
ability
with
time,
no
matter
where,
because
we
have
a
very
thin
staff.
C
I
I
think
we
probably
put
another
year
on
this
project,
and
I
think
people
are
nervous
because
they
don't
know
what
form-based
codes
are.
I
remember
the
first
time
it
was
probably
in
the
90s
at
a
historic
preservation
conference
where
they
talked
about
how
foreign-based
codes
could
really
make
a
big
difference
in
your
historic
neighborhoods,
downtowns,
etc,
especially
for
those
that
had
I'll
use
like
central
avenue
as
an
example
an
extra
wide
street.
And
how
would
you
bring
that
down
to
feel
better
for
walking
bicycle
trees
etc?
C
And
I
do
know
mckennaville
and
their
town
center
plan
to
use
for
base
codes,
and
so
I'm
thinking
that
maybe
the
council
needs
to
get
better
informed
about
that,
because
it
took
me
a
while
to
very
you
know
to
get
understand
that
what
is
this?
But
I'm
thinking
now
as
time
goes
on,
that
that
would
be
a
way
for
us
to
really
manage
our
whole
area
of
arcata
is
to
be
able
to
have
form-based
codes,
and
then
it
takes
away
all
the
questions
for
the
developer.
C
But
the
one
thing
I'm
concerned
about
is
that
people
think
if
they
drive
to
eureka
and
they
come
back,
there
will
be
an
eight
story
building
there
and
they
don't.
You
know
we
have
to
remember
it
takes
a
very
long
time
for
development
and
if
you
don't
get
anything
in
place,
then
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
even
start
to
find
out
who
can
do
what
or
when
or
how
many
years
it's
going
to
take.
C
So
I
I
think
this
is
all
getting
us
ready,
it's
putting
us
in
place
and
then
we
can,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
overnight.
It's
going
to
be
probably
many
years
before
we
see
some
of
these
things
come
to
fruition,
but
if
we
don't
have
a
basis
or
planning
for
anything
in
arcata,
then
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
see
things
occur.
Good
development
occur
and
development.
C
That
has
the
incentives
and-
and
I
know
I
think
about
it-
how
the
arcata
library
is
really
wanting
to
relocate
and
last
night
they
talked
about
incentives
and
so
and
benefits
and
development
and
that's
open
space.
It's
park
lands,
it's.
It
would
be
the
library
a
library
could
be
on
the
ground
floor
or
top
floor
of
a
building,
and
that
would
be
a
tremendous
benefit
and
amenity
to
a
community.
C
So
I
worry
about
stopping
our
project.
I've
spoken
to
scott.
I
understand
his
concerns.
I
understand
the
where
they're
coming
from,
but
I
I'm
feeling
like.
If
we
don't
aren't
giving
the
planning
commission
enough
details
or
for
people
to
talk
to
them,
then
that's
where
we
should
be.
We
should
actually
beef
up
what
the
planning
commission
needs
if
they
need
to
deal
with
one
whole
session.
Just
on
soils,
or
I
mean
a
lot
of
people
want
to
have
all
the
soils
figured
out
before
you
do
it.
C
C
So
I
I
think
you
know
we
should
continue
giving
our
planning
commission
what
we
need
and
what
scott
sees
we're
lacking.
Those
should
be
points
and
we
should
say
to
the
planning
commission,
our
planning
department,
please
bring
in
so,
and
so
please
get
so
and
so
to
do
this
and
that
and
and
make
it
happen-
and
I
do
agree
that
we've
had
so
many
since
the
discussion
has
started
so
many
meetings.
C
So
many
people
walking,
we
have
a
fear
basis
and
we
have
a
positive
basis
and
I've
gotten
letters
of
for
this
committee-
sporting
supporting
it
and
not
supporting
it
and,
I
would
say,
they're
almost
equal
on
what
I've
gotten
in
the
mail
and
I've
gotten.
People
worried
that
we're
moving
too
fast
and
change
is
one
of
the
hardest
things
we
can
possibly
have
in.
Our
life
is
change
that
that's
a
daily
thing
every
day
is
change
and
we
we
get
not
used
to
accepting
it.
C
They
estimate
a
goal
of
11,
000
and
mark
andre
always
talked
about
when
he
went
to
humboldt
state.
Some
of
you
may
know
who
he
is
some
of
you
may
not
know,
but
he
was
a
staff
person
for
the
city
of
arcata
and
environmental
services
until
he
left
and
emily
took
his
job.
We
he
went
to
school
with
8
700
students.
C
That
was
what
it
was,
and
this
year
they're
going
to
have
6
600
students
and
it's
going
to
take
quite
a
while
to
ever
get
up
to
11
000.
and
which
is
their
goal
and
they
plan
on
building
all
together
with
craftsman,
mall
and
some
of
the
units
on
on
campus
about
4
000
units
period.
So
I
don't
know
if
that'll
help
with
your
concerns
and
with
the
planning
commission's
concerns,
because
they
want
to
know
what
the
university
is
doing.
But
maybe
this
will
make
a
difference
thanks.
D
J
Okay,
I
would
like
to
add
some
of
my
thoughts
now
and
then
we'll
take
public
comment,
and
then
we
can
re-evaluate
our
thoughts
but
yeah.
What
I
really
see,
I
think,
as
the
role
and
what
really
could
push
a
group
like
this
to
be
productive
and
and
helpful
in
this
process,
is
to
have
a
group
that
can
work
to
formulate
and
address
these
ideas
in
the
form
based
code,
because
really
the
form-based
code
is
not
separate
or
different
than
the
gateway
plan.
J
It
is
the
gateway
plan
and
that
you
know
those
are
really
the
specific
things
where
people
can
get
down
to
the
nitty-gritty
work
with
experts
get
their
hands
dirty
and
talk
to.
You
know
their
fellow
community
members
to
be
able
to
decide
things
like
yeah.
What
kind
of
setbacks
we
want
to
see
how
tall
are
the
buildings?
Are
there
alleyways?
Is
there
a
park
over
here?
Are
there
stairs?
J
You
know
all
of
these
things
that
are
so
specific
that
are
part
of
a
form-based
code,
that
you
know
we
don't
necessarily
as
as
a
council
as
a
commission.
J
You
know
have
the
time
to
almost
get
into
every
single
one
of
those
details,
because
it
really
should
be
a
process
that
can
be
you
know,
kind
of
community-led
and
and
easy
to
get
feedback.
In
that
sense,
I
kind
of
did
some
research
and
and
saw
a
couple
just
different
communities
that
you
know,
went
the
route
of
not
having
any
sort
of
community
advisory
task
force.
J
You
know,
and
ultimately,
these
form
base
codes
get
to
a
similar
final
product,
but
I
guess
it
all
depends
on
you
know
who's
in
the
community
and
how
they
feel
about
that
project.
Also,
but
I
did
you
know
if
you're
interested
in
looking
into
them,
vancouver
washington,
clark,
county
washington
had
a
pretty
interesting
process
that
involved
a
gateway,
not
gateway,
form-based
code
advisory
committee.
J
That
kind
of
participated
in
like
a
couple
sets
and
really
helped
city
staff,
be
able
to
kind
of
suss
out
details
and,
like
week-long,
you
know
we're
going
to
be
here
for
a
week
come
whatever
day.
You
want
like
charette
processes
and
like
really
working.
You
know
to
to
create
that
with
most
of
these
committees
seem
to
have
at
least
one
planning,
commissioner
on
them.
I
think
it
would
be
helpful.
J
I
mean
even
maybe
it's
just
because
I
like
to
be
involved
and
be
nosy,
but
to
have
you
know
some
of
us
from
council
be
on
there
as
well,
I
think
could
be
really
beneficial
just
so
you
know
we
are
knowing
what's
happening
and
seeing
what's
going
on,
but
I
really
think
that
yeah
being
able
to
develop
this
form-based
code
is
kind
of
the
meat
of
it
and
what
really
an
advisory
committee
like
this
could
could
help
with
so
yeah
and.
C
J
And
that's
why
I
think
you
know
kind
of
receiving
this
feedback
from
us
and
and
from
the
planning
commission
and
seeing
kind
of
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
topic
of
discussion
at
our
study
session.
So
I
don't
you
know
I.
I
don't
consider
that
we're
going
to
move
forward
on
this
tonight,
but
you
know
you
guys
are
getting
the
necessary
feedback
you
need
from
from
us
to
kind
of
and
and
staff
is
now
hearing.
You
know
how
we
feel
about
it
to
kind
of
retune
and
fine-tune
this
to
say.
J
You
know
that
is
kind
of
that
middle
ground
between
let's
just
let
staff
do
it
and
let
consultants
do
it
and
bulldoze
through
and
finish
it
versus.
Let's,
you
know,
create
a
committee
and
only
let
the
committee
do
it.
You
know
and
find
that,
like
common
middle
ground,
to
be
able
to
compromise
on
that
and
to
to
bring
bring
this
forward
in
the
creation
of
a
really
robust,
high
quality
code.
That's
going
to
you
know,
like
you
said
before,
alex
you
know,
create
something
put
it
on
the
books.
J
So
when
developers
come
in,
we
know
what
we're
getting.
We
know
that
the
community
is
behind
it
and
we
know
that
it's
going
to
be
supported.
So
I
think,
that's
you
know
really.
The
most
important
part
of
creating
any
committee
like
this
is
to
figure
out
what
this
form
based
code
looks
like,
because
I
know
everybody
is
dying
to
see
it
so.
G
One
of
my
favorite
things
to
reference
is
this
organizational
chart
that
we
have
in
the
city
of
arcata.
G
That
shows
you
know
on
the
top,
it's
the
city
council
and
then
you
have
the
city
manager
and
all
the
staff
and
on
the
very
top
above
everything,
it's
the
people
in
arcata
that
elect
us
to
be
here
to
represent
them,
and
you
know
I'm
never
going
to
assume
that,
just
because
I
was
elected
and
I'm
sitting
up
here
that
I
know
better
than
what
a
bunch
of
educated,
hard-working
involved
community
members
you
know
have
put
together
with
86
signatories
of
formal
council
members
and
local
board
members
and
humble
cal,
poly
professors
I
mean
to
me
this
is
the
community
is
telling
us
what
they
want,
and
this
is
it.
G
You
know,
I
I
received
10
to
15
emails
supporting
this
and
maybe
one
not
supporting
it.
So
you
know
that's
just
my
sense
on
it
so
far
and
it
seems
like
the
planning
commission
decided
that
they
wanted
us
to
make
the
decision.
That
was
my
understanding,
so
so
yeah,
that's
how
I
feel
about
it.
C
C
J
Yeah,
I
think
we're
in
this.
Like
purgatory
of
we,
we
want
the
planning
commission
to
tell
us
and
give
us
better
recommendations,
and
then
they
want
us
to
just
decide.
So
I
think
you
know
really
to
sit
down
and
have
this
conversation
of.
What
do
we
want
you
to
recommend
to
us?
What
do
we,
you
know,
assign
work
basically
and
be
able
to?
J
You
know,
have
a
successful
discussion
around
what
I
think
we
want
to
see,
because
it's
really
you
know
it's
a
daunting
task
and
it's
a
difficult
task
when
we
have
a
body
of
of
seven
people
that
are
involved
versus
the
three
of
us
when
they
are
also
experts
in
their
their
area
to
be
able
to
have
that
discussion
with
them,
I
think,
has
value
yeah,
jane
jane
is
eager,
and
I
think
we
should
just
take
public,
but
you
you
have
something
as
a
presenter
to
add
in
okay.
Q
In
other
words,
they
they
have
been
kind
of
feeling
left
out,
okay,
which
was
expressed
by
judith
mayer,
and
I
think,
if
they
were
ahead
of
in
essence,
the
task
force
and
a
part
of
it,
and
one
of
you
could
be
on
it
too
or,
however,
you
want
to
do
it,
you
could
be
free
to
attend
it,
but
the
point
is
that
they
would
then
have
this
to
manage
and
they
could
work
with
you
in
identifying
the
members
in
the
subject
area
areas
I
mean
you're
gonna
have
to
sorry
you're
going
to
have
to
pick
the
topics
you
wish
to
be
investigated.
Q
That's
part
of
it,
you
just
you
determine
the
scope.
You
determine
who's
on
it
based
on
the
topics
you
want
to
be
addressed.
So
first
you
guys
say
this
is
what
I
want
to
address
with
this
group
and
then.
Secondly,
these
are
the
people
who
can
address
that.
Let's
go
ask
them:
it's
not
that
you
just
open
it
up
to
the
community.
Come
and
see
if
you
want
to
be
on
this,
you
pick
who
you
want
and
that's
how
the
pleasant
improvement
task
force
was
done.
Q
People
were
identified
to
be
on
it.
They
had
to
agree,
of
course,
but
everybody
volunteered
their
time
and
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
and
we
went
out
and
you
know
I
went
out
and
I
surveyed
the
seniors.
I
went
to
community
senior
lunches.
You
know
I
caught
valentine's
day
and
got
40
of
them
one
day.
You
know
it
was
very
handy.
So
if
you
select
your
targets
well
of
how
to
get
access,
then
you
actually
go
administer
the
survey
and
get
the
information
you
need.
Q
You
don't
you
also
alongside
that,
can
do
a
online
survey
to
add
additional
thing,
but
I'm
just
saying
you
can
design
this.
However,
you
want
the
point.
Is
we
want?
And
and
when
we
talk
about
the
engagement,
I
just
want
to
make
one
other
point
we
have
done
when
he
gave
that
chart
of
the
engagement
process.
Q
The
first
part
is
information
out.
We've
done
an
enormous
amount
of
information
out,
the
frustration
has
been
getting
it
back
and
then
getting
it
summarized
and
having
it
be
quantitative
and
not
just
a
zillion
comments.
You
know
we've
gotten
tons
and
tons
of
comments,
but
the
issue
is:
what
do
people
really
think
and
is
it
representative?
J
Great
thank
you
for
adding
that
in
jane,
okay,
so
any.
I
think
we
should
go
to
public
comment
now,
and
so,
if
you
are
here
in
person,
please
line
up
at
the
podium.
We
will
take
in-person
public
comment
first
and
then
we
will
move
to
zoom.
U
You
may
so
I
was
not
one
of
the
86
signatories
because
I
wasn't
asked
to
sign
it
because
I
have
not
been
allowed
to
participate
in
a
lot
of
the
social
media
discussions
on
gateway
or
invited
to
meetings
where
this
is
being
discussed.
So
I'm
kind
of
a
stand-alone
lone
wolf,
maverick
whatever,
but
I'm
speaking
that,
how
did
we
get
to
this
point?
How
did
we
get
to
this
point?
U
But
anyway,
at
this
point
I
would
like
to
encourage
us
to
find
a
way
around
just
creating
a
whole
other
thing
at
this
point
in
time
in
terms
of
a
task
force,
advisory
committee
or
even
a
subcommittee,
but
something
you
know,
we
really
do
need
to
get
the
community
the
people,
you
know,
input
somehow
quantitatively
and
anecdotally,
whatever
put
forth
so,
do
your
job
and
I'll
be
looking
forward
to
what
your
decision
is
thanks.
V
V
You
know
I
did
come
with
the
prepared
speech
as
usual,
because
that's
how
I
feel
most
comfortable
getting
up
here
and
I'll
I'll
get
to
a
little
bit.
But
I
just
also
wanted
to
say
at
the
forum
based
codes
seminar.
I
mean
it
was
good,
but
there
were
60
people
and
there's
you
know
I
think
18
000
people
in
arcata,
so
to
say
that
everybody
wants
the.
You
know
those
particular
things
that
are
in
the
gateway.
V
I
think
a
lot
of
people
don't
even
quite
realize.
What's
still
coming
so
I
think
we
need
a
lot
more
engagement,
a
lot
more
people
voting
and
it
may
never
even
come
out
of
that
survey
that
they're
doing
with
that,
but
they're
just
people
might
not
be
aware
of
it.
So
just
that
in
mind
when
we're
drawing
conclusions
on
some
of
those
things.
V
So
with
that
in
mind,
our
request
to
the
city
council
to
consider
to
establish
gateway
plan
advisory
committee
are
task
force.
Historically,
the
city
has
arcadia,
has
relied
on
the
community
task
force
model
for
a
large
scale,
infrastructure
projects
and
long-range
planning
accomplishments.
V
The
task
force
model
is
based
upon
a
top-down
community-based
process
to
ensure
a
final
product,
reflective
of
a
broad
spectrum
of
community
members.
The
city
council
is
working
to
finalize
the
gateway
plan
that
best
reflects
community
long-range
vision,
its
priorities
to
the
future
and
its
values
in
terms
of
future
developments.
V
After
the
successful
plaza
task
improvement
force
committee
members
could
include
city
council,
appointed
residents,
business
owners
planning,
commissioners
and
other
diverse
representatives,
stakeholders
of
the
community.
So
I
would
just
ask
you
to
please
consider
the
gateway
advisory
committee
task
force.
However,
it
turns
out
to
be
a
proposal
as
you
meet
with
the
planning
commissioners
and
joint
study
session
and
just
keep
an
open
mind
about
it.
Thank
you.
AA
AA
It'll
offer
us
to
finally
synthesize
input
from
the
past
and
the
future
engagements
so
that
the
plan
wholeheartedly
and
clearly
reflects
the
community's
vision
it'll
help
to
relieve
some
of
the
workload
of
staff.
I'm
sincerely
amazed
with
how
much
staff
can
get
accomplished,
but
we
can
all
agree.
The
city
is
understaffed.
AA
The
budget
is
tight
and
we
are
very
behind
schedule
in
both
the
gateway
area
plan
and
also
the
general
plan.
A
task
force
can
be
a
diverse
representation
of
community
stakeholders
and
when
I
say
stakeholders,
I
mean
stakeholders
being
both
those
who
can
affect
this
plan
and
those
who
will
be
affected
by
it.
AA
O
I
would
like
to
address
again,
you
know
the
basic
question:
is
it
safe
to
build
in
these
areas?
And
this
is
a
question.
I've
been
drilling
to
the
planning
commission
and
I'm
doing
to
you
too,
because
you
have
to
start
there.
Is
it
a
safe
location
to
build?
And
if
you
can't
answer
that,
then
you
shouldn't
build
right
at
this
moment
and
the
the
people
that
answer.
That
is
not
our
staff,
who
are
very
hardworking
people,
they're,
not
experts
in
these
areas,
the
planning
commission.
I
doubt
it
has
experts
on
that
too.
O
You
need
at
least
a
master's
degree,
a
doctor's
degree
and
a
lot
of
experience
to
be
an
expert.
So
we
do
not
have
experts
that
are
giving
you
advice
to
say
this
is
okay,
and
when
pressed
on
the
planning
commission,
we
had
one
of
the
commissioners
who,
I
think
is
a
structural
engineer,
addressed
it
a
little
bit
by
the
foundation
and
said
we
had
have
to
have
these
massive
foundations
for
these
buildings
and
in
the
gateway
area
and
and
they
pressed
again
about
permission
to
do
it
and
he
had
a
lot.
O
He
wasn't
sure
about
whether
he
was
going
to
get
all
the
okays
to
do
that.
So
this
has
not
been
answered
at
all
and,
if
you're
going
to
blow
right
through
this
and
not
answer
that
question
you're
going
to
get
trouble
down
the
road,
because
we've
seen
that
with
a
different
issue,
not
mud
but
with
berkeley
versus
berkeley.
O
When,
when
the
university
did
not
answer
the
questions
regarding
noise,
pollutions,
the
concerns
of
the
neighbor
and
the
city
sued
them
too,
they
lost
twice
in
california
courts,
and
I
would
also
point
out
that
in
surf
side
florida,
when
we
had
a
massive
collapse
in
last
year
of
a
high
rise
there
and
the
litigation
there
they're
trying
to
settle
out
of
court
is
one
billion
dollars
for
one
building
in
the
cities
on
on
the
hook
and
the
the
people
that
did
not
maintain
the
building
are
responsible.
They
even
went
after
the
building.
O
That
was
a
block
away.
There
was
a
brand
new
and
said
the
foundation
affected
their
the
cause
of
the
collapse,
so
I
mean
they're
going
and
that
person
the
developer
is
settling
to
avoid
going
to
court.
So
we're
talking
about
litigation,
a
lot
of
money
if
these
questions
aren't
answered
and
done
in
the
proper
way,
and
that's
all
we
what
we
want,
but
it
just
seems
from
what
I've
my
limited
experience
is
showing
up
to
these
meetings.
O
You
get
your
two
three
minutes
of
fame
and
ask
some
questions
and
you
never
get
your
answers
and
my
answers.
I
maybe
I'm
just
being
really
difficult,
but
I've
asked
some
professionals
in
the
community
and
they
say
you're
right
on
that
that
has
to
be
answered
before
they're
built.
It's
not
the
other
way
around.
I
think
alex
pointed
out
that
they'll
figure
it
out
later.
That's
not
the
proper
way
to
do
it.
You
don't
figure
it
out
later.
You
find
out
the
answers
before
and
I'd
also
address
in
that
meeting.
O
Y
Hello,
chris
richards
again,
I
just
want
to
verify:
are
we
going
to
have
a
chance
to
do
off-topic
subjects
again,
sir?
Okay,
I
wanted
to
make
a
statement
about
this
recusal
thing:
brian's,
it's
it's
out
there,
so
I'm
well
prepared
to
talk
about
that,
but
so
I'll
spend
this
time
to
talk
about
this
stay
on
topic
with
scott's
proposal,
and
I
think
it's
a
fabulous
idea.
Y
Y
You
know
work
on
these
subtopics
I
mean
you
guys
could
run
this
thing
and
you
could
focus
you
know
you
could
you
could
get
everybody
focused
on
the
details
you
want
and
I
I
think,
you'd
be
silly
to
try
to
rush
through
for
whatever
reasons
and
try
to
use.
What's
what
folks
we
have
available?
You
know
with
staff
and
all
the
committees,
and
you
guys
I
mean
it's
like
a
godsend
in
my
in
my
opinion,
so
I
fully
promote
it,
and
I
know
you
know
if
it
becomes
something
you
guys
think
would
work
well.
Y
P
P
You
know
ridiculous,
but
really
what
you
want
is
a
three
or
four
story.
So
you
start
with
a
proposal.
That's
way
outfetched
and
then
you
make
the
compromise.
And
then
you
sound
like
you're,
moderate,
well
wwbsd.
What
would
bernie
sanders?
Do?
Okay,
okay,
first
off,
you
know
you're
paying
lip
service
to
diverse
communities
right
now.
The
development
in
arcata
is
displacing
poor
people
on
a
scale.
That's
astronomical!
P
Okay,
the
the
blunt
comes
to
the
people
that
have
the
fewest
resources.
It's
a
blunt
knife:
it's
cutting
it's
hitting
hard,
it's
chopping
left
and
right.
People
that
have
lived
here.
All
their
lives
are
being
forced
out,
I'm
running
into
people
on
the
streets
that
own
businesses,
okay
and
they're,
living
on
the
streets.
Okay,
I
was
elected
student
bodies
president
and
I'm
living
on
the
street.
P
It's
gentrification,
it's
class
warfare,
and
we
need
to
take
the
opportunity
to
blunt
that
knife
and
make
it
work
for
good.
The
plaza
where
I
came
for
humble
plaza
development.
There's
a
plaque,
honoring
people,
veterans
of
foreign
wars.
It
was
built
post-war
housing
boom
to
house
veterans.
Now
it's
single
women,
disabled
elderly,
but
we
need
more
of
that.
In
new
york
city
there
was
a
place
called
stuyveston
and
that
was
built
post-war
and
they're
trying
to
turn
it
into
condos,
because
it's
such
a
beautiful
place.
It's
got
all
this
open
space.
It's
so
well
planned.
P
If
this
is
really
the
peop,
the
the
crown
jewel
of
liberal,
where
we're
going
and
we
have
the
money.
This
is
not
a
poor
city.
The
economic
projections
are
through
the
roof.
Let's
invest
in
making
it
equitable.
Now,
right
now,
today,
starting
with
rent
control,
I
don't
care
if
they
call
the
people's
republic
of
arcata.
They
did
that
in
santa
monica.
At
least
some
people
that
I
grew
up
with
still
live
there.
Thank
you
very
much.
Z
Yeah
start
the
timer,
so
I
just
wanted
to
maybe
do
a
little
bit
of
thought
experiment.
I
think
that
it's
more
than
just
form-based
code
that
that
a
topical
work
group
could
address.
I
mean
we're
hearing
things,
we're
hearing
a
lot
of
different
topics
that
keep
coming
up
and
up
and
over
and
over
again,
and
I
think
we
could
use
the
the
wastewater
treatment
discussion
that
we
had
earlier.
I
mean
that
keeps
coming
up.
Are
we
going
to
have
capacity
with
full
build
out?
Z
It
would
be
really
helpful
if
we
had
like
a
topical
work
group
that
could
spend
one
or
two
meetings,
city
staff
included
and
just
like
summarizing
layman's
terms,
I
I
would
appreciate
it.
You
would
probably
appreciate
it
too
that
just
summarizes
the
storyline
and
says:
okay,
it's
going
to
be
all
right.
Here's
our
plan
and
just
like
try
to
put
this
to
bed
in
a
way
that
people
feel
comfortable
with
and
there's
a
lot
of
those
different
topics
and
the
structural
issue
that
he
talked
about
could
be
another
one.
Z
You
know
architect
could
address
this
really
easily
and
say:
okay,
there's
new
technologies
out
there.
That
can
do
this.
You
know,
let's
just
summarize
this.
As
a
white
paper
educate,
you
educate
us,
educate
the
community
and
you
know
have
other
people
help,
so
I
just
think
that's
kind
of
what
was
intended
with
those
topic
work
groups.
T
Yes,
hello,
thank
you,
I've
known
scott
since
february
and
have
been
talking
with
him
about
this
advisory
committee
for
a
long
time.
I
was
very
skeptical
for
months
and
I
had
a
lot
of
the
same
questions
that
that
you
posed
does.
Is
this
just
redundant?
Is
it
going
to
slow
things
down?
You've
heard
me
speak,
I
think
here
and
but
I'm
definitely
at
the
planning
commission
that
one
of
my
concerns
I
spoke
a
couple
months
ago.
T
One
of
my
concerns
is
that
we're
going
to
go
through
this
process
and
whether
it
takes
four
months
or
six
months
or
eight
months
we're
going
to
get
to
the
end
and
we'll
kind
of
be
scratching
our
heads
and
say
how
does
it
all
fit?
There's
a
lot
of
dependencies
people
have
talked
about
that
are,
I
feel,
being
overlooked.
T
We
talked
about
whether
the
soils
in
the
industrial
area
can
support
tall
buildings.
These
are
questions
that
have
to
be
answered,
so
we
know
where
to
put
the
emphasis
on
housing
to
the
question
of,
are
people
being
heard
or
or
you
know
what's
what's
going
on
there?
Does
it
duplicate
things?
T
I
know
alex
said
that
she
was
at
the
or
listen
to
the
meeting
planning
commission
august
4th
fire
district
director
eric
loudensberger
spoke.
T
T
The
you
heard.
People
complain
that
in
60
seconds
or
90
seconds
or
two
minutes,
you
don't
get
a
lot
of
time.
I
write
articles.
I
make
maps,
I
write
letters
to
you.
You
receive
my
letters,
I'm
real
involved
in
this,
but
the
average
person,
I
think,
is
very
discouraged
in
terms
of
taking
away
from
the
planning
commission.
I
spoke
with
the
planning
commissioner,
who
said
that
that
commissioner's
issue
is
that
there's
no
actual
discussion
on
these
matters.
There's
people
talk
one
at
a
time
in
a
row,
but
there's
no
actual
round
table
discussion.
T
This
could
provide
that
the
in
terms
of
the
form-based
code,
oops,
I'm
getting
to
the
end
this
this.
This
could
be
one
subcommittee.
There
are
form-based
codes
that
are
good.
There
are
some
that
are
bad,
it's
not
a
solution
in
itself,
but
mainly,
I
think
that
the
advisory
committee
could
give
some
oversight.
I've
written
two
articles
about
this
on
k21.com
I've
written
to
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
Q
Okay,
here's
my
three
minutes
I'll
try
to
keep
it
lower
than
that.
The
whole
purpose
is
to
provide
you
with
information.
That's
the
whole
purpose.
So
if
you
look
at
it
from
a
standpoint
of
it's
a
vehicle
that
allows
the
community
to
discuss
these
issues,
we
can't
discuss
these
issues
in
this
form.
We
can't
necessarily
even
easily
discuss
it,
discuss
them
in
a
task
force
if
it
has
to
follow
city
guidelines.
Q
So
the
whole
idea
of
a
study
session
is
that
you
can
discuss
okay,
so
the
idea
of
this
committee,
whatever
we
call
it
subcommittee
of
the
planning
commission
task
force
that
works
working
group
of
the
planning
commission,
is
to
take
an
issue
investigate
it
and
report
back
bring
in
the
topical
experts
that
know
what
they're
doing
people
will.
Happily,
I
mean
we've
been
donating
an
enormous
amount
of
time.
Q
You
know
one
of
the
members
is
going
through
all
the
post-its
which
we
can
now
read,
which
we
couldn't
read
until
they
figured
out
that
they
were
too
blurry
and
couldn't
be
read
and
that's
never
been
synthesized
well.
One
of
the
group
here
is:
if
rga
is
going
through
and
and
documenting
them
all
freebie,
you
can
get
lots
of
freebies
from
the
community.
Q
If
you
simply
ask
define
the
topics
figure
out
the
vehicles
that
will
allow
them
to
discuss
things
bring
in
information
do
a
little
survey
if
need
be,
however,
but
you
need
information
and
you
need
to
be
confident
in
the
decisions
you
make
and
infrastructure
is
just
one
of
them
form
based
code.
What
the
limits
are,
I
still
don't
know
how
far
form
based
code
extends.
Does
it
extend
to
streetscapes?
Does
it
extend
to
soils
issues
I
mean
you
know?
Q
N
N
We
do
our
first
online
comment
will
be
anthony,
go
ahead,
anthony.
W
Hello-
everybody,
hello,
everyone.
I
think
you
can
hear
me
now
and
thank
you
scott
for
that
presentation
and
everyone
who
commented,
I
feel,
like
there's
overwhelming
support
from
the
general
arcadia
citizenry
of
forming
some
kind
of
gateway
area
plan
dedicated
group,
because
the
the
feeling
generally
now
is
that
there's
a
lot
of
different
committees
and
groups
and
planning
commissioners
and
they
are
working
on
a
lot
of
different
things.
But
the
gateway
area
plan
is
probably
going
to
have
a
greater
impact
on
arcada
than
any
other
development
ever
has
in
our
lifetime.
W
And
so
I
think
it's
really
important
to
listen
to
the
community,
listen
to
people
and
then
also
to
engage
the
community,
because
a
lot
of
us
are
still
in
shock
of
the
gateway
area
plan
in
general.
So
I
don't
see
any
reason
to
rush
through
it
in
the
planning
process
because,
like
alex
said
earlier,
if
the
building
is
going
to
take
a
long
time
and
that's
why
the
planning
process
also
needs
to
take
an
amount
of
time,
that's
going
to
be
appropriate
to
solve
and
consider
all
the
issues.
W
I
think
scott
mentioned
that
the
community
would
be
more
comfortable
if,
if
the
council
and
all
of
the
commissioners
have
all
of
the
information
on
hand-
and
I
think
the
community
would
also
be
a
lot
more
comfortable
if
we
had
all
of
the
details
on
hand
and
in
our
awareness-
and
I
think
that
you
know
this
is
a
little
bit
more
of
a
controversial
feeling.
But
a
real
subject
is
that
economic
warfare
looks
like
shoving
grant
money
into
population
density
before
healing
a
town
that
just
suffered
the
loss
of
cannabis
and
a
pandemic.
W
So
we
we
see
that
happening
and
there
I
don't
think,
there's
any
reason
to
think
that
no
one
will
sue
if
there's
a
lot
being
broken
as
far
as
conflicts
of
interest
go
because
people
are
getting
going
to
be
upset,
they
already
are,
and
so
that's
another
reason
why
it's
really
important
to
get
a
group
together
to
get
all
the
facts
and
details
straight
so
that
we
can
understand
what
we're
up
against
and
how
we
could
do
it
in
a
way
that
represents
and
respects
what
the
values
are
here.
How
why
would
anybody?
W
You
know
quote-unquote
hip,
and
I
think
that
that
what
we're
facing
right
now
is
like
a
big
campaign
to
bring
people
in,
so
we
need
to
equally
campaign
to
bring
our
values
to
the
table
and
that's
what
the
responsible
growth
arcada
is
asking
for
with
this
presentation,
and
so
many
other
community
members,
those
86
people
are
just
the
people
who
are
in
the
know
of
what
they're
doing,
but
there
are
a
lot
more
who
are
discouraged
to
get
involved
in
that
we
need
to
include
them.
Thank
you.
AB
Hi,
this
is
matt
simmons,
I'm
a
resident
of
arcada
and
a
renter,
I'm
also
a
member
of
the
redwood
coalition
for
climate
and
environmental
responsibility.
AB
This
this
plan
is
urgent
and
I-
and
I
don't
think
I'm
hearing
the
urgency
from
folks
in
this
room
right
now
that
I
would
like
to
arcata's
housing
element,
calls
for
this
upzone
to
happen
at
the
end
of
this
month.
Right
and
the
housing
element.
AB
AB
So
there's
an
urgency
to
this
plan
and
it
was
it
was
delayed
because
of
covid,
and
I
I
want
people
to
have
a
chance
to
give
input
and
I've
been
going
to
like
dozens
of
meetings
where
people
have
given
input
and
have
really
actually
impacted
what
I
think
the
end
result
of
this
plan
is
going
to
be.
It's
not
going
to
be
what
the
staff
draft
looked
like
right.
AB
There's
been
a
lot
of
changes
proposed
already
that
I
think
are
probably
going
to
end
up
in
this
plan
because
you
all
are
good
at
listening
to
folks
when
they
give
comments
and
write
letters,
and
you
know
it's
9
37
p.m,
and
I
I
very
as
a
group
of
very
dedicated
people
are
here
giving
comment
right
now,
but
I
I
think
it's
absurd
to
think
that
it's
representative
of
any
way
in
any
way
of
the
city
of
arcata-
and
that
doesn't
mean
I'm
saying
everyone
agrees
with
me.
AB
AB
It
was
like
three
hours
ago
and
I
I
hope
that
we,
whatever
decision
you
make
it,
doesn't
slow
down
this
plan
too
much
because
we
desperately
need
it.
Thank
you.
AC
Hi
good
evening,
I
guess
it
is
getting
late,
isn't
it?
Yes?
As
jane
mentioned,
the
feedback
posters
from
the
open
house
back
in
january
are
being
collated
by
tireless
volunteers
and
the
feedback.
Dots
are
being
counted
and
all
the
sticky
notes
that
are
visible
are
being
documented
and
so
far
7
out
of
the
18
posters
have
been
gone
over
with
a
fine
tooth
comb.
So
for
the
hottest
button
topic
we
have
building
height.
AC
The
opinion
is
overwhelming.
Nine
people
said
they'd
like
three
stories
or
less
two
people
said
two
stories
or
less.
That
seems
a
little
unreasonable.
57
people
want
four
stories
or
less.
AC
When
it
comes
to
five
and
six
build
five
and
six
stories,
we
got
one
person
six
stories,
we
got
two
seven
and
eight
stories,
zero
people
have
said
they
want
seven
or
eight
story
buildings.
So
we
go
to
last
night
when
we
have
a
form
based
code
presentation
and
the
feedback
was
heavily
weighted
towards
eight-story
buildings.
AC
AC
AC
AD
Thanks
good
evening,
this
is
colin
fisk
with
crtp
the
coalition
for
responsible
transportation
priorities.
I
I
sent
you
all
written
comments
earlier
because
I
didn't
think
I
was
going
to
be
able
to
make
this
meeting,
but
you
know
luckily
it
lasted
three
and
a
half
hours.
So
here
I
am
anyway
I'll.
Just
I'll.
AD
Just
briefly
say
that
I
think
you
know
that
crtp
does
doesn't
support
a
new
task
force
or
or
a
new
committee
for
this
purpose
and
really
that's
because
it
it
it's
it's
hard
to
see
how
that
would
add
anything
to
the
process.
AD
You
know
folks
talk
about
not
liking
time
limits
for
talking
at
meetings,
and
I
get
that,
but
a
new
task
force
or
committee
would
have
to
have
that
as
well
or
else
the
meetings
would
go
forever
and
they'd
have
to
keep
going
and
keep
going
and
keep
going,
and
you
know
I
think
people
talk
about
not
liking
the
fact
that
not
everyone
is
being
heard.
AD
AD
It's
it's
not
possible
for
me
to
envision
how
this
could
you
know
add
something
that
that
isn't
already
there
in
terms
of
a
scientific
survey.
That
would
indeed
be
different
than
what's
been
done.
A
scientific
survey
is
also
very
expensive
to
do
and,
in
my
opinion,
a
pretty
clunky
tool
for
doing
land
use
planning.
AD
So
probably
probably
not
what
would
end
up
being
pursued.
I
think
what
you're
hearing
is
that
folks
want
more
process
when
they
don't
agree
with
the
substance
of
what's
being
proposed,
and
I
can't
blame
them
for
that,
but
I
don't
think
that
you're
going
to
find
total
and
complete
consensus
on
something.
That's
a
big
change
like
this.
AD
That
doesn't
mean
that
a
big
change
isn't
necessary
and
it
doesn't
mean
that
you
know
pursuing
sort
of
endless
meetings
in
search
of
that
consensus
is,
is
a
productive
way
to
go
either.
So
thank
you.
F
Hi
yeah,
thank
you
so
much
appreciate
being
able
to
give
my
input.
You
know
you
know.
I
live
here
in
arcata.
I've
lived
here
for
many
years
off
and
on
since
1987.
F
and
solid
since
2014,
20,
2004,
sorry
and
I'm
I'm
also
president
and
executive
director
of
siskey
land
conservancy,
and
we
have
a
sustainable
communities
program.
We
created
the
arcata,
the
jacobi
creek
school
garden
and
we've
worked
with
sun
valley
to
reduce
pesticides
around
children
and
we're
doing
the
same
kind
of
work
in
del
mar
county
and
our
organization
supports
creation
of
the
task
force
and,
and
speaking
personally,
I
would
appreciate
having
a
way
to
provide
better
input.
F
You
know
three
minutes
at
a
time
or
written
comments
that
might
need
to
change
every
you
know
I
mean
that's
onerous
and
the
folks
who
are
bringing
this
forward
to
you
have
done
so
much
work
and
I
think
sherry
earlier
really
pointed
out
some
of
the
benefits
and
so
the
other
presenters
in
favor
of
it
and
so
again.
Personally,
I
want
to
address
these
contentions
by
colin
and
matt
and
their
organizations,
which
really
are
really
appalling.
F
You
know
they're
asking
you
to
not
limit
building
heights,
but
to
definitely
limit
citizen
input,
and
they
want
you
to
ignore
the
potential
stripping
of
of
the
bike
path
at
l
street
and
instead
concentrated
on
k,
11
and
they're,
not
mutually
exclusive.
So
I
want
you
to
know.
We
have
several
hundred
supporters
in
arcata
and
dozens
of
them
have
contacted
me
very
upset
about
these
supposed
green
groups,
and
I
don't
want
to
do
some
competition
between
the
groups.
It's
not
what
it
is.
F
It's
it's
just
to
want
to
limit
public
participation
and
to
somehow
say
that
there's
such
an
emergency
that
we
have
to
okay,
eight-story
buildings-
is
you
know
just
beyond
the
pale?
I
also
want
to
address
alex
stillman's
kind
of
I
don't
know
it's
kind
of
a
string
of
non-sequiturs,
but
the
last
thing
she
said
was:
if
we're
going
to
continue
being
a
community
that
people
like
we're
going
to
have
to
chain.
F
Well
change
is
here.
You
know,
I
I
think
it's
represented
by
a
plan
that
was
developed
relatively
in
secret
to
stuff
a
quadrant
of
the
city
with
absurdly
tall
buildings.
That
is
a
developer's
dream
and
also
obviously
desired
by
the
state
which
is
forcing
down
our
throats,
this
expansion
that
they
aren't
allowing
us
to
have
any
input
on,
and
so
I
apologize
for
being
trenchant.
You
know
it's
not
my
style
always,
but
you
know
we
want
the
task
force.
We
want
our
voice.
J
G
You
know,
I
definitely
agree.
You
know
these
three
minute
snippets
of
public
comment.
It's
it's
not
a
conversation.
You
know
I
have
proposed
in
the
past
that
you
know
we
extended
it
to
five
minutes.
You
know
that
that
wasn't
agreed
upon
and
I
think
what
a
lot
of
people
forget
is.
I
mean
if
you
read
the
brown
act,
it's
really
clear.
You
know
the
business
of
the
public
is
supposed
to
happen
in
the
public
and
it's
right
now
in
meetings
like
these
and
we
talk
about.
G
Well,
you
can
talk,
you
can
call
us
or
you
can
email
us
or
we'll
meet
you.
That's
extra
stuff.
You
know
I
mean
it's,
it's
not.
You
know
the
primary
way
to
contact
us.
It's
during
these
meetings,
where
yeah
again,
it's
just
restating
that
the
business
of
the
public
is
supposed
to
happen
in
the
public
during
these
meetings.
So
you
know
I
do
think
creating
a
different
outlet
like
this
group,
where
that
conversation
can
happen,
makes
a
lot
of
sense
because
our
current
structure
isn't
really
set
up
for
it.
G
You
know
I
wanted
to
comment
on
the
comment
that
more
housing
will
bring
down.
Rents,
I
think,
that's
absolutely
false.
I
think
more
housing
will
have
zero
effect
on
rents
and
you
know
I
think
that
this
is
the
largest
development
plan
in
the
history
of
the
city
right.
So
it's
gonna
affect
the
lives
of
all
of
our
18
000
residents.
You
know
it
deserves
a
lot
of
careful
thought
and
you
know
the
other
comment
of
like
you
know.
We
don't
know
how
people
feel
and
I
feel
like.
G
I
have
a
very
strong
sense
of
what
people
think,
because
I
you
know
I
feel
like
I
talk
to
a
really
diverse
group
of
residents
every
day,
and
you
know
to
me
my
feedback,
I'm
getting.
I
think
that
the
truth
is
the
majority
of
our
constituents
are
terrified
that
this
project
is
going
to
ruin
the
city
that
they
love
so
much,
and
I
think
this
is
why
us
maintaining
the
public
trust
by
creating
a
group
like
this
and
recusing
ourselves
when
we
have
conflicts,
is
so
important
to
maintain
that
trust.
J
Thank
you
all
right.
Well,
I
know
personally
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
topic
that
we
discussed
at
our
study
session.
I
know
I
personally
have
some
questions
for
the
planning
commissioners,
because
I
know
some
of
their
questions
haven't
been
addressed
yet,
and
they
had
some
concerns
and
wanted
us
to
do
some
things.
J
So
I
know
that
this
will
be
a
topic
of
discussion
of
that
study
session
and
I
think
that
at
this
point
we
have
given
you
guys
a
lot
of
information,
a
lot
of
discussion,
and
I
think
we
are
going
to
bring
our
mayor
back
and
move
on
to
our
next
item.
A
The
conclusion
of
all
oral
and
written
communications,
the
council
may
respond
to
statements
any
request
that
requires
council
action
will
be
set
by
the
council
for
a
future
agenda
or
referred
to
staff
speakers
addressing
the
council
may
be
limited
to
three
minutes.
Well,
we
are
limiting
it
to
three
minutes
with
a
time
limit
on
the
overall
length
of
oral
communications
may
be
imposed.
I
don't
foresee
that
happening.
So,
let's
go
ahead
and
get
it
started.
Y
Okay
thanks
thanks
and
chris
richards.
Here
again,
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
comment
on
this
recusal
issue,
with
the
gateway
conversations
in
the
public
format
and
I'd
like
to
start
with
really
applauding
stacy
way
back
when
february,
whatever
it
was
when
she
voluntarily
recused
herself
and
then
waited
patiently
for
nancy
diamond
the
city's
attorney
to
get
it
together
to
send
the
information
to
figure
out.
Does
she
really
have
to
or
not
and
then.
Finally,
when
it
did
come,
it
was
a
disappointment
to
everybody,
but
she
really
did
the
right
thing.
Y
As
a
community
member,
I
feel
that
that's
more
than
a
feeling
it's
if
we
do
this
wrong
and
we
end
up
with
somebody
found
a
lawsuit
because
people
didn't
recuse
themselves
properly
or
whatever
we
have
to
redo
meetings.
We
have
to
spend
much
longer
time.
We
have
to
get
more
grants.
We
have
to
go.
I
mean
the
the
commission
is
pretty
clear
with
their
guidelines
and
yeah.
Y
I
don't
know
karen
if
you
guys
have
already
sent
out
for
alex
alex's
information,
but
it
would
be
prudent
if
you
did
so
that
we
don't
end
up
with
this.
I
personally
feel
she's
doing
the
city
an
injustice.
She
should
recuse
herself
as
stacy
did
until
she
knows
otherwise.
The
meetings
that
she
attends,
and
especially
the
study
session,
is
going
to
be
a
problem
meeting
in
the
future.
So
my
advice
to
alex
and
trust
me,
this
is
not
a
personal
attack
by
any
means,
and
stacy
knows
this.
Y
I
I
want
everybody
to
be
able
to
participate,
but
I
don't
want
the
city
to
have
a
problem
down
the
road
when
we've
worked
so
hard
to
get,
I
mean
we're
not
even
there
yet
we're
a
long
ways
away,
but
we
definitely
don't
need
trip
hazards.
So
without
going
further
into
this,
I
will
be
sending
more
I'll
send
send
you
another
email
and
I
have
some
some
other
information.
Y
I
don't
want
to
talk
about
right
here
in
front
of
the
chambers
and
everybody,
but
I
really
think
as
a
public
member,
I
want
you
guys
to
get
this
right,
I'm
in
favor
of
doing
this.
Well
and
again,
I
applaud
what
happened
with
stacey
and
I
wish
he
could
could
be
part
of
all
this,
but
they
have
the
reasons
and
we're
a
small
town.
We've
got
to
follow
it
so
anyway.
Thank
you
for
my
time
and
it
was
a
great
meeting.
Thank
you.
P
P
They
have
rent
control
and
they
have
some
original
residence,
and
there
is
some
protections
for
the
community
that
existed
before
it
became
you
know
where
everybody
wanted
to
live
anyway.
P
We
are
facing
that
same
situation
here
and
I
never
thought
it
would
happen
so
fast
and
so
furious.
But
what
I
said
about
the
cost
of
services
it
is
passed
on
to
the
poor.
P
Pay
for
those
they're,
irresponsible
and
the
people
that
are
paying,
for
it
are
the
poor
ones.
I
know
this
personally.
I
was
meeting
with
the
city
about
water.
I
ended
up
moving
into
a
place
where
my
friend
died
and
I
got
into
the
place
and
the
landlord
blames
me
for
taking
advantage
of
my
dead
friend.
We
both
met
with
karen
in
her
office
about
what
was
happening
about
my
gentrification.
While
he
was
alive
rue
vayne
moore,
he
was
actually
killed
and
you
can't
prove
it.
P
P
P
O
I'm
going
to
bring
up
another
point
that
I
brought
up
to
the
planning
commission
that
everybody
seems
to
like
have
a
strong
opinion
of
what
the
public
is
really
thinking.
In
my
opinion,
we
don't
really
know-
and
I
pointed
out
to
them.
The
basic
101
fundamentals
to
infill
projects
is
to
send
the
mass
mailing
out
to
the
public
to
find
out
what
what
they
want
and
because
perhaps,
as
I
pointed
out
to
them,
I
mean
look
at
the
audience
here.
O
Look
at
the
audience
at
the
planning
commission
out
of
15
000
people
or
just
like
a
handful
of
people
that
are
pretty
much
almost
the
same
people
are
showing
up
so
obviously
there's
there
is
a
problem
with
the
public
that
either
they're
not
aware
of
it
or
they
they
don't
care,
or
I
mean
there's
something
going
on
there.
So
there
has
to
be
another
effort
to
reach
out
to
them
and
that's
why
I'm
suggesting
this
mass
mailing
and
it's
probably
a
good
timing,
because
you're
coming
down
to
a
lot
of
important
decisions.
O
So
this
is
the
chance
for
the
public
to
to
be
aware
of
it
and
and
weigh
in
I'd
also
like
to
bring
up
your
next
meeting,
which
is
a
study
session.
I
don't
know
if
very
many
people
thought
of
this,
but
you
know
you're
considering
four
stories.
O
A
little
bit
is
that
anything
over
four
stories
is
that
you're
going
to
lose
the
view
of
the
bay.
Now,
if
that's
important
to
residents,
then
they
need
to
be.
They
need
to
say
that
or
you
need
to
inform
them.
You
know
for
the
for
having
a
taller
building
and
more
housing
you're
going
to
lose
your
view.
So
that
just
needs
to
be
explained-
and
I
think
planning
commission
whether
they
put
a
balloon
on
what
represents
four
stories.
O
Eight
stories,
they
look
at
it
from
close
up
and
they
go
up
on
the
hill
and
look
at
it
because
they
need
to
know-
and
you
need
to
know
because
you're,
the
ones
that
are
gonna,
that
they're
waiting
for
you
to
make
a
decision.
They're
gonna,
give
you
a
reference
that
they
think.
Maybe
four
stories
is
the
right
way
to
go.
O
But
now
we
got
this
new
california
loose
end
where
a
developer
can
basically
go
a
lot
higher
than
that,
so
it's
kind
of
like
a
big
mess,
because
even
if
you
as
a
group,
decide
four
stories,
three
stories
whatever
it
is,
it
seems
like
the
developer
is
going
to
have
it
and
run
to
add
a
lot
more
floors
to
that.
So
I
think
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
spelled
out
and
explained
to
the
public
too.
Thank
you.
A
U
U
Perhaps
you
can
advise
staff
on
this,
but
periodically
through
the
media
would
be
kind
of
nice
to
know
how
many
people
are
caught,
dialed
in
or
on
youtube
or
whatever,
so
that,
if
they're
not
making
public
comment,
at
least
we
kind
of
know
that
there's
some
households
that
are
actually
tuned
in
and
so
it'd
be
kind
of
nice
to
know
karen.
U
You
know
how
many
people
on
youtube,
how
many
people
on
zoom
so
that
we
kind
of
have
a
sense
about
we're
talking
about
important
matters
of
the
citizenry
and
and
maybe
not
everybody
is
a
citizen
of
arcata.
But
it's
it's
more
people
paying
attention
than
are
in
this
room
and
that
are
calling
in
so
maybe
we
could
periodically
get
a
number
throughout
the
meeting
about
who's
who's
watching.
Thank
you.
T
Yes,
good
evening,
I'm
fred
wise
when
I
spoke
at
the
beginning,
I
may
have
been
too
subtle
about
the
industrial
area
barrel
district.
I
think
it
should
have
a
wet
name
and
I
hope
that's
understood
it
is
not
the
barrel
manufacturing
from
its
earliest
days,
as
we
all
know,
what's
larger
for
me,
I'm
going
to
give
a
letter
out
at
the
end
of
this
presentation.
T
T
It's
not
just
about
a
lack
of
letters,
lack
about
a
lot
of
information.
The
letters
I
feel
are
tip
of
the
iceberg.
The
letters
I
were
delayed,
letters
from
june
9th
are
still
not
in
the
packets
they've
been
one
excuse
after
the
next.
The
latest
iteration
the
community
development
director,
is
now
putting
the
letters
online,
but
he's
doing
it
in
batches.
T
The
latest
batch
is
from
march
31st.
My
letter
was
june
9th.
I
don't
take
that
personally.
I
just
think
it's
a
sham
in
general
as
an
exercise,
I
put
all
the
letters
on
the
arcata1.com
website
to
see
what
the
process
was
like.
If
I
did
it
the
way
it
is
on
the
city
website
in
a
batch,
it
would
have
taken
me
10
to
15
minutes
for
all
the
letters
since
december
2021
I
like
them
individually.
It's
like
it's
easier
to
read.
T
T
Now,
you
might
say
what
difference
does
it
make?
Well,
if
I
write
a
letter
about
the
lke
street
couplet
and
two
and
a
half
months
passes
and
the
public
is
not
able
to
read
it,
it
makes
a
difference.
People
can't
chime
in.
I
don't
meet
people,
you
know.
No
one
else
considers
it.
It
goes
on
and
on
I'm
going
to
read
the
third
sentence
from
the
third
sentence
of
the
brown
act:
1953,
our
basic
law,
the
people
of
the
state
do
not
yield
their
sovereignty
to
the
agencies
which
serve
them.
T
N
All
right,
we
have
online
comment
by
anthony,
go
ahead,
anthony.
W
Hello,
everyone
anthony
here
again,
you
know
I'm
kind
of
grateful
that
I
ended
up
in
my
place
in
line
because
of
frank
reading,
the
brown
act
right
there.
I
wanted
to
start
by
saying,
on
kind
of
regards
to
the
california
transportation
resources
comments.
You
know
it's
not
that
the
community
is
seeking
some
kind
of
arbitrary
consensus
where
you're
here
to
provide
input
and
improve
and
craft
the
plan
in
a
way
that
suits
arcata
and
that's
that's
are
right,
especially
as
said
in
that
plan.
W
That
up
is
because,
if
there
are
problems
with
all
the
questions
that
aren't
being
addressed
like
the,
if
it's
even
safe,
to
build
these
buildings
here,
if
there
are
problems,
we
definitely
are
going
to
suffer
consequences
and
the
city
may
and
people
will,
but
is
the
same
organizations
who
are
benefiting
from
the
building
and
pushing
the
grants
on
us
and
insisting
that
we
do
these
plans.
Are
they
going
to
be
the
ones
suing
us
in
the
end?
W
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
know
if
you
heard
that,
because
of
my
computer,
making
a
sound,
are
they
going
to
be
the
ones
who
end
up
suing
the
city?
If
there
are
problems,
we
really
need
to
address
these,
and
I
think
that
having
that
advisory
committee
would
be
a
good
place
to
really
get
the
conversation
and
into
the
details
of
it
and
into
a
place
where
there's
a
cohesion
between
community
awareness
and
the
decision
makers
decisions.
So
at
least
we
know
why
these
ideas
are
being
pushed
and
we
know
how
to
push
them
in
a
way.
B
A
Okay:
next,
we
have
council
and
staff
reports.
So
do
we
have
any
other
staff
updates
none
tonight,
okay
and
let's
go
ahead
and
go
to
council
member
updates.
J
The
eye
block
party
is
september,
5th,
monday
yay,
it's
back
on
ice
street
in
front
of
los
bagels
from
12
to
6
and
stacy,
and
I
will
be
emceeing
and
it's
guaranteed
to
be
a
great
time.
A
Thank
you.
So
the
community
ambassador
program
will
begin
training
that
they're
hiring
is
at
the
end,
and
training
will
begin
very
soon
for
that,
and
so
the
hopes
is
that
they
will
be
out
in
the
community
during
you
know
at
some
point,
starting
in
the
month
of
september.
That's
the
hopes.
You
know,
we
know
how
these
things
go,
but
that's
what
we're
hoping
for
there
are
25
people
currently
being
served
in
the
safe
parking
program,
which
is
great.
G
N
G
Thank
you,
yeah.
Just
I've
been
talking
to
business
owners
around
town
and
they
told
me
that
you're
sending
out
letters
about
g
h
street
and
that
they
were
getting.
I
think
they
said
they
got
letter
signed
by
you.
There's.
G
The
letter
that
I
sent
out
yeah
yeah
just
to
spruce
up
those
corridors
and
do
the
flagging
and
stuff
so
really
appreciate
you
continuing
that.
Thank
you.
That's
it
you're.
E
C
Okay,
well,
I
will
I
have
my
first
hta
meeting
and
just
as
meredith
said,
they
are
doing
all
kinds
of
things
in
the
transportation
world
and
they
are
definitely
moving
into
helping
everyone
through
economic
development.
What
they're
wanting
to
do
and
connecting
so
many
of
the
counties
surrounding
us
together.
So
I
think
that's
excellent.
You
know
when
joanne
was
mentioning
knowing
how
many
people
are
watching
our
meetings,
etc.
C
I
I
think
about
you,
know,
property
owners
and-
and
I
think
about
it,
doesn't
really
matter-
let's
say
valley,
west
and
there's
an
empty
property
out
there
right
now,
and
maybe
we
we
want.
How
do
you
go
on
someone's
property
and
say
we
want
to
test
your
soil
to
see
if
such
and
such
can
be
built
there?
C
You
know
property
owners
have
to
make
decisions
of
what
they
want
to
do,
whether
they
want
to
sell
whether
they
want
to
build
or
not,
and
then
they
will
do
the
process
they
have
to
do
when
they
build
it.
But
a
lot
of
the
talk
that
we're
hearing
is
no.
We
have
to
know
if
that
soil
is
good
or
not,
but
you
aren't
going
to
be
able
to
do
that
on
someone
else's
property
and
unless
they
allow
you
to
or
want
you
to,
and
then
it's
not
appropriate
for
the
city
to
do
it.
C
A
Well,
we
do
wish
you
well
soon,
council,
member
stillman,
it's.
AD
A
That
so
dates
of
future
meetings
just
to
confirm,
I
think
it's
been
confirmed,
but
it's
on
the
agenda
that
the
city
council
will
hold
a
joint
study
session
with
the
planning
commission
on
tuesday
august
23rd
at
6
pm
here
in
the
council
chambers.
Do
we
have
consensus
on
that?
Can't.
J
A
We
do
all
right
so
with
that
we're
adjourned.
Thank
you.