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B
A
Okay,
well
hi.
Everybody
welcome
to
the
long-awaited
city,
council
and
planning
commission
study
session
on
the
gateway
planning
effort.
I
just
really
want
to
thank
everybody
for
being
here.
It
took
kind
of
a
while
for
us
all
to
be
able
to
land
on
a
date
that
works
for
everybody,
and
I
know
that
you
know
to
get
this
many
people
together
in
a
room.
It
takes
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
and
also
to
the
the
staff
for
sending
out
endless
beautifuls
and
getting
everything
ready
for
tonight.
A
A
A
Why
and
the
why
of
gateway
before
we
kind
of
dive
into
some
of
these
key
points
and
to
just
really
acknowledge
that
we've
kind
of
consulted
with
a
lot
of
people
in
groups,
I'm
sure
many
of
us
have
watched
countless
hours
of
planning,
commission
meetings,
city,
council
meetings,
expectations
on
form-based
code,
read
a
ton
of
material
and
so
hopefully
tonight.
The
goal
really
is
to
represent
a
lot
of
the
voices
that
we've
heard
and
to
be
able
to.
A
The
best
plan
that
we
can
have-
and
I
know
that
some
of
us
are
gonna-
probably
have
some
clarifying
questions
tonight
and,
and
hopefully
we
are
gonna-
be
able
to
get
to
those.
And
that
really,
though,
the
point
of
the
study
session
is
for
us
to
have
a
conversation
and
finally,
all
be
in
the
same
room
where
we
can
have
an
open
discussion
and
talk
about
what
we've
heard
from
the
community
and
be
able
to
discuss
and
find
some
consensus
on.
A
Some
of
these
really
key
issues
that
we're
going
to
be
addressing
tonight,
which
are
definitely
the
ones
that
have
popped
out
through
the
public
engagement
process
and
to
be
able
to
move
forward
with
our
community.
And
just
thank
you,
everybody
who
is
here
tonight.
It's
really
amazing
to
see
a
room
full
of
people,
so
with
that
I
will
pass
it
to
karen
who
will
kind
of
go
into
some
of
the
background
and
context
and
the
population
planning
and
kind
of
the.
Why
of
gateway?
A
H
A
Population
basics,
as
we're
starting
to
see
them
trend
out,
and
this
body
or
the
council
will
ultimately
land
on
sort
of
what
our
projected
growth
that
we're
planning
for
will
be.
But
we
did
want
to
share
that
with
you
as
we
just
look
out
over
what
are
the
potentials
in
the
next
20
years
so
that
we
just
have
and
then
how
would
that
equate
out
in
terms
of
areas
of
development
around.
L
Transition
here
and
walk
through
the
next
couple
of
slides
if
you've
watched
the
materials
in
preparation
for
the
meeting,
then
you've
seen
this
before,
and
I
presented
this
in
a
couple
of
other
formats
as
well,
but
this
just
gives
us
a
little
bit
of
a
you
know,
grounding
and
a
similar
framework,
and
one
of
the
main
points
I
want
to
make
here
is
that
you
know,
while
we're
here
tonight,
to
discuss
the
gateway,
the
gateway.
Isn't
the
only
area
we're
anticipating
growth
from
the
city?
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L
L
Students
are
going
elsewhere
instead
of
being
housed
in
arcadia,
even
though
there
is
this
rapid
increase
relative
to
the
last
decade.
There's
a
steeper
incline
here
in
the
population
growth
and
then
when
cal
poly's
population
dropped
off
here
the
pandemic
and
various
other
things
that
affected
their
student
body.
You
see
a
rapid
increase
in
the
population
of
the
city
of
arcata,
and
so
these
are
really
decoupled
at
this
point.
Not
only
are
they
not
doing
doing
opposite
things?
L
The
way
I
interpret
this
is
that
students
moved
out
and
someone
else
moved
in.
Of
course,
this
was
during
the
time
frame
of
the
the
pandemic.
People
were
able
to
remote
work
and
we
saw
a
lot
of
people
move
into
our
area
that
were
not
students
and
that
were
occupying
those
housing
units.
So
this
isn't
on
this
slide.
But
this
leads
me
to
a
big
question:
cal
poly
starts
its
new
growth
and,
as
they
start
to
come,.
L
I
wanted
to
then
take
a
look
at
population.
I
was
looking
backwards
in
the
last
couple
of
decades.
Let's
look
forward
into
the
next
couple
of
decades.
Here
again,
I'm
showing
population
in
the
thousands
over
here
going
out
to
2045,
which
is
a
time
frame,
the
planning
horizon
for
the
gateway
area
plan
the
documents
that
we're
adopting
for
the
general
plan
update
as
well.
L
You
can
see
here
in
orange
a
20
growth
rate
over
our
approximate
19
000
population,
as
of
2021,
the
2020
census,
and
then
the
green
is
a
40
increase
over
that
20
year,
roughly
20-year
time
frame,
and
so
here's
the
spread,
20
growth
would
put
us
at
just
over
22
000
40
would
put
us
just
over
26
000
and
then
to
put
that
into
context.
For
you
know
what
those
growth
rates
those
annual
growth
rates
are
just
so
you
have
an
understanding
to
get
to
20
growth,
just
over
22
000.
L
That
would
be
a
significant
decrease
in
the
average
annual
growth
rate
over
the
last
decade
and
a
significant
decrease,
even
if
you
average
out
over
the
last
20
years.
So
over
the
last
20
years,
we
had
an
approximate
one
percent
growth
rate.
This
would
be
significantly
lower
to
get
to
a
one
percent
growth
rate
you'd
be
more
at
this
40
increase
of
total
population
over
that
20
approximate
20-year
period
getting
to
around
26
000
people.
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So
this
was
the
the
origin
of
our
thinking
around.
You
know
what
population
trends
should
we
be
planning
for
in
this
20-year
planning
period
and
to
vet
that
out?
We
took
a
couple
more
numbers.
I
looked
at
you
know,
what's
one
and
a
half
percent
and
what's
1.7
annual
growth
rate
and
that
spans
the
range
from
0.73
per
year.
G
L
L
L
L
So,
during
this
time
frame
this
is
cal,
poly's
prospectus
ramp
up
period,
and
then
this
is
the
point
nine
percent
leading
on
from
that
point,
without
any
additional
growth
from
cal
poly
and
the
reason
I
did
this
is
because
we
have
many
factors
that
are
pushing
our
growth
right
now,
everything
from
the
disparity
between
our
average
housing
price
to
average
housing
prices
in
other
parts
of
the
state.
You
know,
folks
that
are
cashing
out,
and
you
know
both
of
their
their
homes
and
their.
L
There
are
many
factors
that
are
pushing
growth
right
now,
and
so
I
wanted
to
accommodate
at
least
one
of
those
factors
into
this
model
just
to
test
it
using
that
you
know
approximately
one
percent
and
the
cal
poly
that
lands
us
somewhere
between
one
and
one
and
a
half
percent
annual
growth
rate.
So
I
think
this
is
the
region
26
to
28.
000
is
the
region
that
we're
talking
about
for
growth
rates
over
the
next
20-year
period.
D
L
That
census
says
that
we
have
right
now
and
then
dividing
that
by
that
total
population
growth,
in
addition
to
the
dorms
that
are
called
for
in
the
cal
poly's
perspectives,
the
dorms
that
they're
going
to
provide
for
their
students
that
they
anticipate
their
students
moving
into
and
filling
those
dorms
up.
In
addition
to
all
of
that
housing
that
cal
poly
is
going
to
provide,
we
would
need
2,
200
new
households
in
the
city
of
arcata
over
that
20-year
period.
L
At
this
point,
up
up
zone
infill
on
the
rest
of
the
city
is
going
to
take
30
percent
and
then
the
balance
about
60
percent
is
going
to
happen
just
in
in
you
know,
backyards
random
up
up
zones
or
random
infill
sites,
and
that
sort
of
thing-
and
so
this
is
really
just
to
show
that
we're
anticipating
this
growth,
there's
22
2200
units
to
occur
all
over
the
city.
It's.
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L
A
So
we're
gonna
kind
of
start
and
focus
in
on
the
discussion
for
our
first
topic,
which
we're
going
to
look
at
the
gateway
area,
the
the
districts
and
the
building
heights
within
those
districts,
and
so
we're
going
to
start
it
off
kind
of
a
straw
poll
just
to
see
where
we
all
fit
to
kind
of
then
guide
our
discussion
as
we
jump
in
and
talk
about
kind
of
some
guiding
questions
of.
Do
we
want
to
limit
maximum
building
height?
We
want
to
recommend
limiting
that
in
certain
districts.
A
And
we'll
do
kind
of
similar
to
what
was
in
the
the
form-based
code
presentation
if
you
were
able
to
watch
that,
but
pulling
on
the
heights
of
each
of
those
four
main
districts,
barrel:
district
gateway,
hub
gateway,
corridor
and
neighborhood,
and
I
think
on
the
next
slide.
We
have
the
map
of
those
areas
or
yeah.
A
Perfect
and
so
then
on
here
we
have
the
map
of
that
just
to
kind
of
remind
us
of
what
all
of
those
areas
are
and
what
the
current
proposed
heights
are
for.
Each
of
those
different
areas
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
jen
and
delo
to
explain
the
polling,
and
we
can
kind
of
jump
into
that.
But
you
did
get
a
qr
code
in
front
of
you
folks,
at
this
table
and
folks
out.
There
also
got
one
we're
going
to.
B
A
A
A
B
A
O
O
J
O
A
I
think
emily
did
a
really
good
job
of
explaining
too
that,
like
metro
just
said,
we
have
a
certain
capacity
with
this
phase,
one
that
we're
going
up
to
and
then
that
we
are
doing
you
know,
studies
and
going
into.
I
would
find
the
exact
word
I
wrote
down,
but
the
feasibility
study
for
that
phase
two
and
finding
out
what
actually
is
possible
to
even
increase
that.
A
Point
jumping
off
point:
to
start
the
conversation,
it's
not
saying
I
mean
I
think
it's
the
maximum
we're
willing
and
then
we
can
kind
of
go
from.
There
was
the
idea
that
yeah,
I
think
we
need
to
talk
about
it.
I
I
feel
like
we
got
to
talk
about
what
we
want
and
what
height
of
buildings
and
what
all
these
people
have
told
us
they
want
to
see.
So
I
think
this
is
a
great
jumping
off
point
to
bring
that
into
the
conversation
yeah.
I
can
really
I'm.
I
was
just
wondering
if
this
conversation
needs.
A
A
A
To
let
you
know
a
developer,
build
an
eight-story
building
on
a
parcel
that
is
unable
to
hold
an
eight-story
building
and
is
in
an
environmental
impact
zone
and
is
not
okay
by
the
coastal
commission
and
you
know
they're,
not
gonna,
that's
not
gonna
happen.
It's
not
gonna.
The
state
is
not
going
to
allow
it
to
be
built
so
yeah.
M
A
A
A
A
Current
zone,
has
you
know
it's
not?
They
will
review
if
they
have
an
altus
pillow,
lower
they've
got
a
fault
line
running
through
or
set
back
from.
You
know
a
stream
or
any
parcel
can
have
a
number
of
constraints
that
doesn't
allow
it
to
build
to
the
maximum
of
your
current
zone.
So
I
think
it's
I
mean
to
never
create
a
code
that
would
take
into
consideration
every
single
part.
A
And
currently
that's
I
mean
how
you
know
code
is
it's
it's
a
whole
lot
of.
You
can't
build
this
here.
You
can't
build
this
here.
You
can't,
you
know
we.
We
don't
want
this
basically,
but
to
be
able
to
now
have
the
opportunity
to
say
we
do
want
this,
I
think,
is
you
know
the
point
that
we're
trying
to
get
to
yeah
and
it's
just
an
idea
right,
we're
not
voting
on
it.
We're
just
getting
consensus.
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B
And
they
they
have
an
idea,
and
I
feel
like
this
is
an
idea
that
we
have
for
this
region
for
arcadis
and
it
may
happen
and
may
not,
and
I
you
know
I
asked
a
realtor
friend
of
mine,
to
check
into
some
properties
and
their
restrictions
on
some
of
the
properties.
Like
the
father
said
when
he
died,
he
never
wanted
these
ever
to
change.
B
B
B
B
J
A
G
G
Feels
to
me,
like
there's,
been
clarity
that
we
can
add
currently
at
least
4
000
hookups,
and
that
by
the
time
2045
around
arrives
when
we
will
be
hitting
the
maximum
population
growth
that
we're
talking
about
the
city
is
way
ahead
of
that.
So
there
may
be
limiting
factors
in
creating
the
vision
that
alex
referred
to.
G
But
I
mean
wastewater
is
clearly
not
a
limiting
factor
in
getting
this
solved,
and
I
think
that
we
should
be
thinking
boldly
to
address
the
the
twin
goals
of
the
housing
crisis
that
we're
in
right
now
and
the
climate
goals
that
we
have
and
whatever
the
limitations
in
building
that
vision.
Clearly
right
now,
the
wastewater
infrastructure
is
not
a
limiting
factor.
A
And
and
in
beginning
that
that
growth
right,
we
need
housing
now
and
to
be
able
to
start
that
process,
and
you
know,
as
a
renter,
it's
I've
seen
it
firsthand.
It's
really
impossible
for
people
to
find
places
to
live.
You
might
as
well
throw
the
towel
in.
If
you
have
a
dog
it's
hard,
and
you
know
if
we
can
start
building
and
start
creating
more
spaces
where
people
want
to
live
that
are
walkable
that
are
close
to
the
center
of
town
that
are
near
public
transportation.
A
I
mean,
I
think
these
are
all
common
values
that
all
of
us
hold,
that
we
want
a
walkable
transportation
friendly
place
for
people
to
live,
that's
close
to
services
and
to
improve
our
transportation
and
pedestrian
infrastructure.
Like
I
think,
like
those
are
all
things
like
I
don't
know,
does
anybody
think
that
sounds
like
a
bad
idea
like
no?
I
think
these
are
all
values
that
like
we
hold,
and
I
know
that
our
community
holds
too,
and
so
yes,
this
vision
right.
We
have
a
vision
and
we
can
start
on.
We
can
start
on
that
vision.
A
We
might
not
be
able
to
build
it
out
to
you,
know
the
numbers
that
we're
talking
about,
but
we'll
be
able
to
at
least
start
and
know
what
we're
getting,
and
I
think
that's
the
most
important
part
of
looking
at
a
plan
like
this
too,
especially
with
the
you
know
the
introduction
and
proposed
form-based
code,
it's
more
about
getting
to
say
and
getting
people
involved
and
what
we
want
to
see.
Not
you
know
I
mean
the
traditional
zoning.
You
can
build
this
high.
You
can't
do
this.
A
It's
gotta,
it's
gotta,
fit
in
this
spot
right,
like
it's
kind
of
boring
right,
but
now
we're
like
in
this
exciting
time
where
we
can
talk
about.
We
want
our
buildings
to
look
like
this.
We
want
setbacks,
we
wanna
have
people
be
able
to
dine
and
go
to
the
bus
stops
like
it's.
Actually
a
really
amazing
cool
opportunity
to
be
able
to
be
part
of
that
and
have
the
community
be
able
to
give
feedback
on
what
specifically
we
want
it
to
look
like
and
yeah
totally
so
I've
heard
a
lot
of
people
say.
A
We
just
said
that
we
we
need
housing,
now
hurry
up
and
stamp
this
plan,
and
this
is
a
great
plan.
Well,
it's
not
a
great
plan,
it's
really
just
a
template,
so
we
need
to
fill
in
the
blanks
and
if
we
don't
do
it
right,
if
we
don't
take
our
time,
then
we
aren't
going
to
attract
developers.
I
mean
even
after
we
finish
this
plan
if
it's
not
attracted
to
developers,
we're
still
not
going
to
have
housing.
F
A
Going
district
by
district
and
going
to
say
the
barrel
district
and
asking
the
people
in
that
little
micro
community.
What
do
you
want
to
see?
What's?
What's
your
dna,
what
how
do
you
want
to
do
and
kind
of
develop
district
by
district
and
then
maybe
we
can
actually
get
somewhere
and
maybe
we
can
actually
have
a
plan
that
will
be
attracted
to
developers
and
will
be
accepted
by
the
community.
Imagine
a
developer
that
wants
to
come
in.
It's
like
the
community
is
already
they
love
this.
This
is
what
they
want.
It
would
happen.
A
A
This
is
the
point
where
we're
going
to
start
to
really
delve
into
what
that
looks
like
and
look
the
work
and
the
community
engagement
is
really
front
loaded
and
it
takes
a
long
time,
an
expensive
process
and
you
have
to
hire
consultants,
and
you
have
to
hire
people
to
have
staff,
to
write
your
land
use
code
and
everything
like
that.
But
once
you
do
that
exactly
like
you
said
julie,
it's
you
know,
developers
want
to
come
in
and
they
want
to
build
because
they
know
exactly
what
they're
getting
into.
H
A
J
Go
over
the
you
know
to
help
me
my
decision
making
just
review
the
information
that
that
you
know
just
shows
that
we're
doing
something
to
add
capacity
by
2045,
because
I
just
don't
remember
that
being
that
way,
I
mean
everything.
I've
seen
from
staff
reports
from
conversations
I've
had
with
engineers
that
work
from
the
project.
O
A
B
A
A
Your
current
general
plan,
what
it
had
built
into
it.
Around
wastewater
treatment,
was
in
five
year
increments.
We
would
continue
to
reassess
the
capacity
of
our
treatment
plan
is
also
reassessed
annually
by
the
state
water
resources
control
board.
They
look
at
our
dry
weather
flows.
If
we
get
into
a
crunch
period
where
they
fear
they
would
be
because
ultimately,
they
would
be
putting
a
cease
and
desist
on
building.
E
A
C
B
A
H
H
H
L
In
addition,
the
eir
is
evaluating
wastewater
treatment
as
one
of
the
the
prime
factors
in
terms
of
government
services
in
this
plan.
Growth
and
so
it'll
set
those
same
thresholds
and
targets
and
mitigation
measures
that
are
required
to
ensure
that
development
doesn't
get
ahead
of
the
ability
to
service
that.
A
A
J
I
A
A
A
H
A
Probably
not
okay,
that's
fine,
so
so
kind
of
then
the
question
that
I
want
to
to
pose
and
have
some
discussion
surrounding,
because
we
do
see
that
there
are
some
areas
where
we
will.
You
go
back
to
the
first
about
the
barrel
sub
area,
because
I
think
that
one
is
the
one
that
has
the
most
at
least
disparity
between.
A
You
know
you
have
that
that
spread
between
six
and
eight
and
then
you
have
the
the
bigger
contingency
at
four,
and
so
I
think
that's
an
interesting
one
to
look
out,
but
just
and
for
that
one
I
kind
of
want
to
pose
the
question
of
thinking
about
you
know
what
trade-offs
are
we
willing
to
to
make
highest
density
versus
kind
of
that
idea
of
amenities?
And
just
you
know,
thinking
about
those
main
ideas
of.
Do
we
want
to
limit
maximum
building
height
and
in
these
certain
districts?
A
What
does
that
look
like?
And
so
I
can
start,
but
I'm
you
know
I
really
do
see
this
is
actually
even
you
know.
I
don't
know
it's
nice
to
see
that
that
that
spread
between
there,
but
really
thinking
about
that
barrel,
sub
area,
as
as
the
area
that
we've
identified,
that
would
be,
at
least
you
know
the
least
ominous
visually
of
going
up
to
higher
density.
To
be
able
to.
A
A
That's
really
interesting
because
I
tried
to
take
that
survey
and
I
I
couldn't
get
through
and
several
people
that
I
know
said
they
tried
to
click
on
that
and
they
weren't
able
to
take
it
either.
And
then,
when
somebody
else
sent
me
a
link,
then
I
was
able
to
go
on
there
and
not
only
was
I
able
to
go
on
there.
I
was
able
to
take
it
12
times,
so
I'm
just
not
really
sure
like
yeah.
A
Yeah
really
yeah,
I
mean
because
I
could
I
mean,
and
who
knows
who
else
did
I
took
it
four
times,
not
twelve,
but
but
I
that's
the
point
that
I
don't.
I
don't
know
who
came
up
with
that
survey,
but
I
don't
think
that
it's
it.
I
don't
really.
I
don't
know,
I
don't
think
it's
representative
and
the
questions
are
shockingly
leading.
So
it's
not,
but
you
know
it's
again.
It's
another
mechanism.
We
use
the
mechanism,
I'm
sure
there
are
some
real
people
who
care
that
took
that
survey.
It's
not
totally
moved
but.
I
And
if
we're
looking
for
community
amenities,
I
think
that's
where
this
conversation
really
needs
to
go.
If
we
plunk
four-story
buildings
throughout
the
barrel
district,
there
might
be
zero
community
amenities
because,
as
we
know
in
most
of
the
gateway,
you
can
build
four
stories
starting
tomorrow
without.
C
A
I
I
don't
really
that's
the
one
thing
that
makes
me
uncomfortable.
I
don't
think
that
community
amenities
should
really
be
tied
to
building
heights.
I
think
all
buildings
should
be
electric.
I
think
all
buildings
should
be
net
zero.
All
buildings
should
I
mean
people
deserve
to
live
in
in
places
like
that.
So
that's
and
I
think
that's
probably
we'll
get
into
that
with
foreign
base
code,
but
I
am
I'm
hesitant
to
have
those
community
benefits
really
be
tied
into
building
heights
right.
F
O
I
H
A
A
C
D
G
A
G
D
G
J
I
really
like
julie's
comment
earlier
about
going
district
by
district
to
get
a
sense
from
people,
and
it
is
you
know
we
mentioned
measure
a
earlier
and
I
know
with
measure
a
we
hired
a
polling
consultant
to
get
information.
You
know
get
a
feel
from
the
public
and
which
way
they
were
leaning.
I'm
just
wondering
is
that
something
we
plan
on
doing?
Why
haven't?
We
seems
like
we
should.
We
should
be
doing
that
for
this
as
well.
A
I
don't
understand
my
idea
was:
let's
let
the
community
decide
what
they
want
in
their
neighborhood
rather
than
us
at
this
table.
We
need
to
listen
to
what
the
community
is
telling
us.
They
they
live
there,
let's
find
out
what
they
want.
What
is
the
direct
people
in
the
barrel
district?
What
do
they
want?
What
are
people
in
this
project?
What
do
they
want?
That's
that's
my
idea
and
then,
as
far
as
businesses,
do
you
not
like
that?
I
feel
like
you
need
to
live?
No,
I
do
I'm
looking
for
a
previous
note.
A
A
I
just
started
writing
stuff
down.
This
is
right
before
the
meeting
sitting
in
my
car,
and
so
a
community
benefit
could
be
a
commitment
to
hire
from
our
community,
for
the
developers
hire
local.
They
can
indoor
secure
bike
storage,
which
is
already
in
there
covered
bus
stops
below
market
rents,
pet
friendly
development
with
outdoor
area
for
pets,
child
friendly
development
with
outdoor
areas,
senior
friendly
family
oriented
those
two
groups
get
left
out
a
lot,
so
I
just
started
writing
down
what
might
be
a
good
actual
community.
F
A
K
F
J
H
D
D
D
F
C
B
E
A
Do
I
I'm
more
interested
in
looking
yeah
so
back
at
the
again?
What
what
we,
as
decision
makers
with
everything
that
we've
heard
and
all
of
the
research
we've
done
and
how
informed
we
all
are.
I
know
that
we
all
are
incredibly
informed
about
what
people
in
this
community
have
told
us
and
and
want
to
see
from
us
and
so
brought
me
to
the
point
that
I
just
we
just
talked
about
and
said
survey
yeah.
A
A
H
B
A
What
do
you
really
think
that
we're
not
seeing,
I
think,
we're
doing
really
great?
I
think
that
we've
seen
a
lot
of
capture
from
a
certain
amount
of
people,
but
not,
I
don't
think
we've
captured
people
that
want
to
move
to
arcata.
I
don't
think
we've
captured.
You
know
very
many,
no
low-income
families.
I
don't
think
we've
captured
any
people
of
different
races,
but
I
mean
at
what
point
I
mean.
D
I
A
D
D
D
A
Here,
just
really
briefly,
maybe
we
can
talk
about
it
a
bit
though
I
I
do
know
that
we
have
even
some
presenters
that
we
are
trying
to
get
to.
But
I
I
see
a
survey
like
this
as
really
utility
with
the
creation
of
this
code
and
creating
a
form
based
code,
and
that
is
where
I
also
see
the
value
and
ability
to
to
input
some
sort
of
citizen
advisory
group,
which
is
you
know
what
would
be
part
of,
or
a
branch
of
you
know
the
planning,
commission
and
again
that's
a
discussion.
A
Well,
but
to
really
be
able
to
specifically
and
scientifically
hire
some
consultants
to
be
able
to
survey
people
and
to
be
able
to,
then
you
know,
work
with
the
community
to
take
that
feedback
and
then
create
the
product
that
can
be
brought
before
both
you
guys
and
us
to
get
recommendations
and
be
worked
through
in
partnership
with
you
know,
consultants
that
we
will
need
to
hire
anyway
and
have
hired
anyway
to
do
work
on
form
based
code.
You
know
the
community
and
people
that
are
interested
in
talking
about.
A
Yes,
what
kind
of
buildings
do
I
want
to
see
in
the
gateway
participating
in?
You
know
whether
that
be
workshops
or
charrettes
or
being
actually
part
of
you
know
an
advisory
group
that
would
have
yes,
citizens
and
residents,
but
also
experts
on
all
of
these
things
that
we've
talked
about
that
are
important
to
the
plan
and
then
being
able
to
you
know,
survey
and
provide
recommendations
based
off
of
that
body
of
work.
So.
C
G
Yeah,
the
other
thing
about
surveying
people
in
a
given
district
is
that
the
impacts
of
building
in
that
district
flow
to
everyone
arcadia.
If
there's
more
density
of
population
in
the
barrel
district,
it's
going
to
affect
everyone,
who's
shopping
at
the
co-op
or
a
wild
berry.
So
it's
I
think,
it's
difficult
to
wall
off
a
district,
because
the
implications
of
what
gets
built
in
that
district
are
going
to
spill
out
to
everybody
in
the
community.
A
K
I
K
L
The
I
I
think,
it's
a
much
bigger
conversation
to
kind
of
completely
flesh
that
out.
The
take-home
message,
I
guess,
is
that
density
bonuses
can
be
completely
contained
within,
what's
already
proposed
in
the
plan,
so
there
wouldn't
be
any
effective
change
to
what's
in
this
plan
already
those
the
community
amenities-
and
I
understand
the
frustration
that
decision
makers
are
feeling
of
seeing
the
policy
level,
which
is
high
level
pointing
to
these
real.
P
L
We
want
to
know
more
about
the
specific
outcomes.
That's
a
separate
process.
I
think
that
these
conversations,
all
informing
what
those
specific
outcomes
are
going
to
be
and
so
density
bonus,
doesn't
necessarily
translate
into
a
change
above
what
your,
what
you're
approaching
shout
out
at
a
upcoming
city
council
and
planning
commission
meeting
as
a
separate
agenda
item.
A
B
A
This
is
just
where
we
can
start
and
start.
You
know
digging
into
it.
So
will
you
go
jenner
dilo
to
the
the
third
question,
the
gateway
sub
area?
That
was
the
one
I
think
that
was
very
like
you'd
have
so
that
one
or
that
one
yeah
the
corridor
yeah.
That's
just
an
interesting
one.
That's
like
a
compromise
to
five
one.
A
I
don't
know
but
okay
and
then
can
you
go
to
the
the
neighborhood
as
well
just
so
we
can
re-see
that
data
and,
I
think,
largely
we're
feeling
four
in
the
neighborhood
again
just
around
that
idea
that
yeah,
that
is,
where
more
single-family
homes
are
more
densely
single-family
residential
and
that
four
is
more
appropriate
for
that.
I
think
I
put
four
on
that.
One
feels
good.
A
To
see
where
there
is
some
consensus
to
move
forward
on
a
second
draft,
so
the
public
can
see
where
we're
going,
because
I
know
there's
been
a
lot
of
call
and
complaint
that
there's
been
a
lot
of
edits.
There's
some
suggestions
made
by
the
planning
commission
by
us
from
various
surveys
from
emails,
all
the
comments
right
that
haven't
been
incorporated
back
in
yet,
and
so
we're
really
hoping
to
be
able
to
bring
some
sort
of
second
draft.
I
know
it's
on
a
later
slide
by
the
end
of
september
to
be
able
to
be
reviewed.
H
A
A
D
J
J
A
G
J
D
J
O
L
B
Neighborhood
in
the
neighborhood,
I
voted
for
four,
so
that's
not
even
under
discussion,
but
if
it
is
that's
why?
Because
I
think
it's
a
really
appropriate
when
we
look
at
some
of
our
victorians
and
they're
two
and
maybe
three
stories,
four
stores,
depending
on
their
height,
that
they
have
and
some
of
our
other
neighborhood.
Within
that
context,
I
really
think
four
story
is
appropriate,
so
it's
back.
B
And
you
thought
we
saw
that
when
we
were
in
that
form
based
code,
that
we
voted
with
filo
and
we
saw
the
ones
that
stepped
back,
and
when
you
saw
that
you
saw
a
neighborhood
and
then
you
saw
a
combination
of
step
back
and
not
step
back.
You
know
she
went
around
the
corner
that
all
worked
really
well,
so
the
step
back
at
five
would
work.
It's
just
not
straight
up
right.
B
I
A
Can
I
ask
a
question
so
what's
exactly
going
on
here
at
the
planning
commission,
we're
supposed
to
be
making
recommendations
to
you
as
representing
the
public
as
far
as
the
height
of
the
building?
Are
you
guys
taking
that
over
is
mean
that
what's
a
discussion-
and
this
is
just
a
conversation
that
we're
having
right
now
to
help
you
guys
inform
you,
know
your
recommendations
and
to
help
inform
the
second
draft
of
this.
I
didn't
understand.
B
I
D
I
Back
every
building
in
the
entire
project,
it
just
architecturally,
looks
and
feels
dramatically
different.
You
know
this
sorrel
thing
is
four
straight
up:
it's
there,
it
provides.
You
know.
David
gave
a
good
description
of
it,
the
other
day
about
low-income
housing
and
what
it's
solved
and
it's
I
have
nothing
against
it,
but
I
hope
that
we
do
better
in
the
barrel
district
or
in
all
these
districts.
Sorry,
in
the
whole
gateway
plan.
D
A
We're
having
a
conversation,
my
understanding
and
staff,
please
correct
me:
if
I'm
incorrect
is
that
we
are
having
a
conversation
that
will
help
the
staff
be
able
to
inform
their
second
draft
of
the
gateway
plan
that
is
hopefully
coming
out
at
the
end
of
september
to
continue
public
review
of
the
document.
That's.
D
B
G
A
A
A
D
D
E
E
J
Yeah,
you
know
I
just
got
to
keep
beating
my
process.
We
basically
mixed
two
quasi-judicial
bodies
here
that
have
different
roles.
One
makes
a
recommendation
to
another
one
that
makes
the
ultimate
decision
or
everybody's
kind
of
having
an
equal
vote
right,
and
the
advice
from
our
own
city
attorney
is
that
strawful
votes
are
not
actionable,
and
so
that's
what
we're
saying
you
know
you
keep
saying.
Well
we're
doing
all
this
other
stuff.
What
you're
really
saying
is
we're
giving
staff
direction
to
make
a
second
draft.
J
F
J
A
E
A
F
L
Just
so
that
we're
all
hearing
it
at
the
same
time,
one
of
the
the
ways
that
this
plan
was
structured
originally
was
such
that
you'd
have
minister
review
of
these
projects.
If
they
applied
the
foreign
base
code,
then
we
said
yeah,
that's
what
we
want
to
see
in
our
community
and
they
brought
these
community
benefits,
some
of
which
are
going
to
be
similar
to
traditional
conditions
of
approval
status.
Said
case
law
is
settled.
You
can't
make
a
condition
of
approval.
L
That's
you
know
larger
than
what
the
project
should
should
accommodate
or
doesn't
relate
to
that
project.
So
some
of
our
community
benefits
are
things
that
people
are
used
to
seeing
as
conditions
of
approval,
and
I
think
that's
the
the
sort
of
gut
reaction
to
saying
well.
These
should
just
be
included
in
all
projects.
L
D
L
Building
project,
if
it's
not
a
subdivision,
you
typically
typically
don't
get.
You
know
community
open
space,
a
park
or
something
like
that,
and
so
there's
a
mix
in
the
community
benefits
program.
The
way
that
it's
currently
designed
and
so
the
the
dynamics,
the
the
feasibility
and
the
idea
here-
was
to
streamline
the
process
so
that
developers
would
come
in
and
instead
of
spending
their
money
on
our
process
and
the
public.
You
know
hearings
and
revising
their
plans.
L
The
feasibility
still
maintains
the
affordability
components
to
it,
so
I
do
think
you're
going
to
see
on
that
list
of
community
amenities
things
that
we
are,
you
know
typically
see
or
typically
consider,
as
you
know,
part
and
parcel
for
for
development,
but
not
every
project
is
going
to
be
able
to.
You
know
take
on
that
that
full
burden.
L
A
A
H
D
H
F
A
A
If
we
go
apparel,
then
you
know
anything
over
four
or
anything
over
six
should
be
stepped
back
or
you
know,
and
those
are
all
ideas
that
we
can
think
about
and
and
eventually
recommend
or
propose
to
go
into
these
drafts
and
you
know,
go
into
the
form
based
code,
but
I
think
when-
and
I
think
that's
what
is
frightening
to
a
lot
of
people
too,
because
we
see
four-story,
building
out
there
and
think.
Oh,
my
gosh.
Imagine
that
twice
as
tall
just
you
know
on.
D
A
With
you
know,
proper
planning
and
proper
architecture-
and
you
know
actual
thoughtfulness
into
creating
a
code
in
that
right.
It's
not
going
to
look
like
that.
It's
not
just
going
to
be
like
you,
like
you
showed
in
the
shading
those
big
square
blocks
that
are
just
sitting
on
street
corners
and
so
yeah.
F
F
F
F
G
A
To
this
I
think
that
is
going
to
be
kind
of
where
we're
sitting.
Now
we
took
a
second
polling
round
after
some
some
rigorous
discussion
and
thinking
of
some
new
things
that
we
hadn't
really
talked
about,
and
I
would
love
to
see
the
results
and
then
I
would
in
the
essence
of
time,
just
because
we
were
supposed
to
keep
this
to
a
two-hour
meeting
and
that's
all
happening.
A
Okay,
so
if
you
wanted
to
participate
in
the
second
round
second
round
and
then
we
are
gonna
kind
of
just
look
at
those
results,
take
it
one
last
breath
with
it
and
then
we're
gonna
move
on
to
talking
about
that.
We
have
a
short
presentation
from
the
engineers
at
ghd
of
the.
Why
behind
that
and
then
we'll
discuss
that
a
little
bit
before
moving
on
to
our
final
point
and
then.
L
B
L
J
A
J
F
H
F
F
P
A
Thing
that
obviously
has
come
to
a
lot
of
us
in
the
the
process
and
what
people
have
heard
about
it
and
want
to
you
know
kind
of
hear
where,
where
are
we
going
to
go
with
it,
and
and
why
are
we
closing
this
and
what
are
the
alternatives?
I
think
is
kind
of
the
the
big
main
questions.
So
we
have
todd
trigenza
from
tragenza
here
from
ghg
who's.
P
P
P
I
think
most
of
you
have
a
lot
of
background
on
this,
but
I
do
want
to
go
through
a
brief
agenda
explaining
how
we
came
to
the
preferred
concept
and
and
then
take
your
questions
and
definitely
participate
in
any
in
any
q.
A
that
you
have
so.
I
first
wanted
to
start
with
our
understanding
of
the
existing
circulation
system,
and
that
demonstrates
really
that
it
works
relatively
well.
P
P
P
These
are
some
of
the
assets
that
I'm
sure
you're
all
familiar
with
in
the
city
right
now,
and
one
of
the
things
we
wanted
to
do
in
this
planning
process
from
the
get-go.
What
we
heard
from
our
partners
at
plan
west
and
the
city
staff
that
we
were
working
with
was
really
you
know,
build
on
what's
working
today
in
in
the
city
of
arcata
and
make
sure
it
can
work
for
for
the
future
development
as
well.
P
So
when
it
comes
to
assessing
future
circulation
demand,
you
know,
there's
a
few
things
you
got
to
keep
in
mind.
One
is
you
know
the
development
intensity,
its
location,
the
mix
of
uses,
how
much
ability
there
is
to
shift
modes
to
to
other
non-automotive
uses,
and
then
what
we
do
is
we
start
looking
at
the
places
that
are
already
under
some
stress
and
we
can
see
with
some
some
forecasting
of
growth
rates.
P
P
So
you
can
see
you
know,
k
and
11
here
in
the
middle
of
the
screen,
jumps
to
a
level
of
service
f,
with
no
improvements,
foster
and
alliance
also,
and
some
of
the
state
highway
ramps
and
our
our
analysis
is
actually
wider
than
this.
So
when,
when
you
see
our
full
analysis,
findings
you'll
see
that
there's
additional
study
locations
that
we
looked
at
as
well,
I
wanted
to
mention
you
know.
P
Level
of
service
has
gotten
a
bit
of
a
bad
rap
recently
and
I
think
in
large
part
that's
due
to
maybe
its
role
in
encouraging
suburban
and
exurban
development.
You
know
basically
pushing
development
away
from
areas
where
there's
congestion
into
areas
where
there's
ample
capacity,
but
it's
still
a
remarkably
good,
effective
tool
to
measure
vehicle
delay
vehicle
emissions,
whether
that's
you
know,
criteria,
health
pollutants.
You
know
things
that
contribute
to
asthma
or
greenhouse
gases
that
contribute
to
climate
change.
P
It's
a
proxy
measure
for
traffic
safety,
that's
shown
even
in
the
first
slide,
where
those
areas
that
do
have
more
commute
traffic
during
those
peak
hours
do
tend
to
have
a
higher
collision
rate.
There
is
a
correlation
there
k
in
11th.
In
particular,
we
see
a
decent
number
of
broadside
collisions.
Those
are
definitely
collisions.
We
want
to
avoid.
P
P
So
we've
been
through
these
numbers,
but
our
our
circulation
system
that
we
were
tasked
to
to
look
at
would
serve
3
500
up
to
3
500,
new
residential
units
plus
or
minus,
where
we
land
on
the
on
the
land
development
forecast.
We
already
looked
at
where
that
would
that
would
be
located,
but
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
supported
that
not
just
for
vehicles
but
build
a
robust
network
that
really
was
multimodal
so
looking
at
really
reinforcing
those
existing
multimodal
assets,
building
new
ones
and
making
sure
it's
comfortable,
convenient
safe
for
all.
P
P
P
In
fact,
originally
we
didn't
want
to
build
any
new
streets
at
all,
so
the
l
street
couplet
is
kind
of
an
exception
to
that
alignment.
We
want
to
minimize
neighborhood
disruptions
and
maintain
available
parking
on
streets.
We
didn't
want
to
have
to
set
aside
a
lot
of
land
for
off-street
parking,
so
we
looked
at
a
variety
of
cross-sections.
What
could
be
accomplished
in
your
current
streets?
P
We
looked
at
those
intersections
that
are
congested
today
during
those
peak
hours
and
how
much
worse
they'll
get,
and
we
came
to
the
conclusion
that
really
you're
going
to
have
to
do
traffic
control
and
when
we
started
talking
about
installing
traffic
signals
or
looking
at
roundabouts
at
some
of
these
constrained
areas,
those
would
either
introduce
traffic
signals
which
are
per
your
general
plan,
not
something
you
prefer
at
this
time.
We
want
to
avoid
signalization
of
local
city
streets
and
roundabouts,
while
they're
fantastic,
I'm
a
huge
proponent.
P
P
Without
those
two
traffic
control
devices
and
the
one-way
couplet
did
provide
that
opportunity,
so
here
is
an
overview
of
the
proposed
plan,
shows
the
extension
westward
extension
of
the
8th
and
9th
street
couplets
that
exist
today
into
the
gateway
area
and
the
creation
of
a
new
north-south
couplet
system.
Along
l
and
k.
P
We
have
a
number
of
different
intersection
kind
of
concepts
to
complement
the
plan,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
illustrations
in
there
that
show
what
what
things
could
look
like.
These
are
bound
to
be
refined,
as
development
occurs
over
the
next
25
years
and
and
the
need
for
the
trigger
for
these
improvements
happens.
P
This
is
just
a
quick
screenshot
here
of
of
the
comparison.
What
happens
when
you
split
the
traffic
off?
This
is
11th
nk,
the
the
first
problematic
intersection
that
came
to
our
attention
from
actually
another
study
that
we
hadn't
done.
It
was
a
couple
years
earlier,
the
central
arcade
area-wide
tis,
which
anticipated
development,
although
not
as
much
as
is
in
the
plan
now,
so
these
may
actually
be
understating
what
the
issues
would
have
been
with
the
the
the
condition
left
as
it
was.
So
you
see
the
level
of
service
f.
P
I
think
that
the
delay
the
average
delay
per
vehicle
was
exceeding
two
minutes
that
becomes
quite
problematic.
It's
it's
not
just
an
f,
it's
kind
of
inconvenient,
but
now
you
have
people
waiting,
two
minutes
on
average
to
make
a
move,
and
that
leads
to
unsafe
behavior
people
taking
gaps
that
aren't
acceptable
people
not
yielding
to
pedestrians
or
cyclists.
So
it's
it's
not
something
we
want
to
encourage,
and
definitely
we
want
to
reduce
that
to
a
more
acceptable
threshold.
P
Moving
to
a
couplet
system
shown
on
the
right
yields,
two
level
of
service
c
intersection.
So
that's
a
much
more
reasonable,
acceptable
level
of
average
vehicle
delay.
You
still
don't
need
any
traffic
signals.
It
can
be
managed
with
always
stops
by
moving
those
conflicting
vehicles
into
two
parallel
facilities.
P
A
variety
of
cross
sections
here
what
can
be
done
within
the
curb
to
curb
width?
That's
available
to
us,
you
can
go
from
a
two-way
bikeway,
which
is
essentially
where
he
landed
on
l
street,
or
you
could
look
at
a
variety
of
options
that
introduce
more
parking.
If
you
want
to
go
there,
maybe
in
the
central
business
district-
and
you
know
diag
anywhere
from
diagonal
parking
to
on-street,
parallel
parking,
potentially
even
on
both
sides.
P
This
is
a
handy
diagram
that
shows
the
vehicular
conflict
points
so
on
the
left.
You
have
two
two-way
intersections
and
it
shows
the
number
of
vehicle-to-vehicle
conflicts
that
are
possible.
Vehicle-To-Pedestrian
conflicts,
vehicle-to-cyclist
conflicts,
those
are
all
minimized
when
you
move
to
a
one-way
operation.
P
It
reduces
the
chance
of
collisions.
You
also
reduce
your
pedestrian
exposure
to
vehicles
in
physical
ways.
So
on
the
left,
you
show
we.
We
have
a
rough
concept
of
what
an
intersection
could
look
like,
and
you
can
see
that
when
you
don't
need
to
accommodate
two
way:
travel
anymore
at
each
intersection,
you
can
introduce
some
pretty
robust,
bulb
outs
and
those
dramatically
shorten
the
amount
of
distance
a
pedestrian
has
to
cross
the
street.
P
So,
in
summary,
what
our
proposed
plan
does
is
enhances
multimodal
connections.
It
hits
all
the
the
the
drivers
that
I
mentioned
earlier.
It
doesn't
add
net
new
vehicular
lanes,
although
it
does
add
a
new
facility,
it's
still
one
lane
per
direction.
It
accommodates
future
traffic.
Minimizes
conflict
points
improves
safety.
P
P
What
about
leaving
k
street,
as
is
so
this
was
a
question
we
were
asked
to
to
to
discuss
today.
So
if
you
leave
k
street
as
is,
and
all
the
growth
we're
talking
about
occurs
without
any
intervention
to
the
circulation
system,
you
have
to
make
some
significant
trade-offs.
You
either
leave
it
completely
as
it
is
where
this
is
kind
of
the
top
example
up
here.
Parking
remains
okay,
but
vehicular
traffic
becomes
really
problematic
and
multi-modal
conditions
really
degrade.
P
Today,
k
street
may
work
all
right
off
peak
hours
when
there
aren't
too
many
cars
on
the
road
people
can
share
the
road
there's
sharos
out
there.
Today,
as
you
increase
the
volume
of
traffic,
you
know
60
percent
to
100
in
some
places
that's
going
to
become
a
very
stressful
environment
for
a
cyclist.
So
then
your
move
may
be
to
move
to
a
more
multimodal
cross
section
you
can
put
bike
lanes
in
then
you
got
to
get
rid
of
parking.
P
Alternatively,
you
say
hey
you
know.
The
most
important
thing
is
to
move
vehicles
efficiently.
We
don't
want
bad
emissions
and
air
quality,
and
all
of
that-
and
so
you
introduce
left
turn
lanes
well
now,
you've
gotten
rid
of
your.
You
may
be
able
to
widen
your
sidewalks
slightly.
I
think
two
feet
per
side,
but
then
now
you
eliminate
your
on-street
parking
and
you
get
rid
of
your
bike
lanes.
P
So
our
one-way
couplet
system,
you
know
trade-offs
notwithstanding
understand,
you
know
that
it
is
changing
the
the
character
of
l
street
from
what
it
is
today
does
accomplish
those
three
things.
So
we
thought
it
was.
It
was
a.
It
was
a
a
good
compromise
solution,
the
checked
our
boxes
from
a
planning
perspective
and
I'm
definitely
eager
to
hear
more
input
from
you
all
tonight
on
this.
P
What
about
the
trail
along
l
street?
What
might
that
look
like
this
is
the
cross
section.
These
are
my
last
few
slides.
I
promise
and
I
just
wanted
to
show
there's
portions
of
l
street
that
are
paved
today
and
so
what
we're
proposing
with
the
one
we
one-way
street
conversion
would
actually
look
pretty
similar
to
those
portions
of
l
street
that
have
a
street
today.
P
There
would
likely
be
some
curb
and
gutter
installed
on
the
western
side
to
formalize
that,
but
our
cross
section
maintains
the
vegetated
buffer
maintains
that
the
trail
maintains
the
landscaping
on
on
each
side
of
that
maintains
on-street
parking
and
the
sidewalk
on
the
east
side.
So
it
is
similar
to
to
what's
out
there
today
where
it's
currently
paved.
P
P
A
I
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A
A
F
O
D
O
F
D
C
P
It
could,
and
I
apologize
that
the
audio
is
cutting
in
and
out
a
little
bit,
but
it
could
change.
I
think
it
could
have
changed,
maybe
our
initial
reaction
that
we
needed
a
new
solution,
but
but
now
that
we
see
the
benefits
of
this
solution,
I
think
we're
still
going
to
be
encountered
with
similar
drawbacks
of
keeping
two-way
traffic
on
k
street,
because
even
with
the
traffic
signals
you're
going
to
have
that
that
that
that
compromise
between
the
space.
Let
me
go
back
to
it.
P
Acceptably
parking
is
still
maintained,
but
maybe
multimodal
conditions
are
not
as
as
robust
and
and
maybe
that's-
okay-
maybe
not
that
maybe
k
street
doesn't
have
to
be.
You
know
a
class
one
bikeway
that
that
that
that
would,
I
think,
change
the
equation
a
little
bit,
and
that
is
something
worth
exploring.
B
So
my
question
was:
has
there
been
any
knowing
do
you
know
by
chance
what
the
traffic
load
would
be,
how
many
cars
would
be
on
k
street
versus
and
then
what
would
you
have
been
putting
on
l
street
may
not
be.
I
just
was
speaking
about
the
traffic
flow,
and
I
know
that's
something
that
the
creamery
around
the
creamery
building
they've
been
thinking
about.
P
Yeah,
that's
a
good
question.
Our
forecasting
isn't
100
complete
we're
still
working
on
understanding
exactly
where
all
the
growth
is
is
going
to
be,
and
that
may
change
depending
on
on
what
direction
the
city
staff
gets
tonight.
But
what
I've
seen
so
far
is
that
you
know
the
overall
growth
is
about
60,
to
doubling,
depending
on
where
you
are
from
today's
k
street
volumes
and
then
a
little
bit
less
than
half
of
it
would
shift
to
l
because
it
would
be
northbound
only
instead
of
you
know
bi-directional.
P
A
J
B
N
A
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L
Did,
though,
discuss
much
of
the
content
that
was
in
here
certainly
didn't
have
the
graphics,
and
I
do
think
that
the
transportation
kind
of
understood
these
concepts,
the
trade-offs
between
the
the
multimodal
versus
the
you
know,
these
other
alternatives,
and
you
know
they
they
weren't
compelled
the
majority
of
them.
Weren't
compelled
that
you
know
those
trade-offs
were
worth
it.
You
know
we
can
certainly,
I
think,
share
this
this
presentation
and
see
if
the
chair
wants
to
bring
that
back
as
a
recommendation,
but
they've
they've
got
a
recommendation
at
this
point.
Yeah.
A
A
thousand
words
I
mean
just
seeing
it
I
mean
I've
heard
a
lot
of
talk
around
it,
but
just
seeing
those
pictures
is
exciting
to
me
to
your
point
dan.
Yes,
it
probably
will
take
more
time.
However,
if
we're
five
years
out,
then
maybe
bringing
it
before
the
transportation
safety
committee
is
not
going
to
find.
A
I
mean
I
know
personally,
I
live
on
alliance.
My
house
dead
ends
on
an
alliance
that
ends
in
my
house,
my
children,
who
probably
will
not
have
the
benefit
of
this
because
they'll
have
graduated,
but
I
mean
the
k
k
streets
is
disaster.
It's
unsafe
to
drive
on
it's
unsafe
to
bike
on
it's
unsafe
for
all
mobility,
I
mean
we
as
a
council
went
through
the
whole
complete
streets,
ordinance,
and
I
mean
this
is.
A
F
J
F
C
A
Would
it
be
better
to
have
the
light
so
that
those
who
shouldn't
be
speeding
won't,
but
those
who
need
to
get
where
they're
going
can
not
have
to
navigate
through
and
in
and
out
all
of
those?
Where
do
you
pull
over
right?
Where
do
you
pull
over?
Is
that
a
question
for
todd
you
want
to
maybe
say
it
again.
P
Yeah
I
I
can,
I
can
hear
it-
I
mean
the
the
signal
question
I
think
emergency
vehicles
can
can
handle
signals
fine,
but
they
can
also
handle
bull.
Bats.
Fine,
so
bulb
outs
are
a
an
improvement
that
you
guys
have
in
your
own
city,
they're
elsewhere
in
other
cities,
one-way
streets,
even
with
the
one-way
streets
we're
talking
about,
there's,
always
a
parking
lane
or
a
a
bike
lane,
which
you
know
we
don't
want
cars
parked
in
it,
but
emergency
vehicles
could
use
it
if
they
need
to.
P
P
A
F
H
A
P
H
P
Yeah,
you
would,
you
would
kind
of
have
to
go
northbound
here
and
then
jog
left
and
right,
and
it
could
could
make
some
of
the
existing
intersections
relatively
tricky.
What's
nice
about
either
l
or
further
western
connections
that
there
are
other
issues
with
those
though
there
are
buildings
in
the
way,
for
example,
is
that
you
already
have
kind
of
the
natural
alignment
of
that
is
conducive
to
to
peeling
off
the
southbound
lane.
H
P
A
D
D
M
A
A
I
guess
what
I
just
added.
You
know
it's
long-term
planning,
similar
to
the
previous
general
plan,
where
we
looked
at
foster
avenue
expansion.
It
did
take
a
long
time,
but
the
idea
is
probably
long
term
nope,
it's
not
going
to
be
easy.
Every
step
of
the
way
there
will
be
barriers
just
like
there
have
been
another
major
project.
B
You
can
always
think
about
the
fault,
foster
avenue
extension
and
that
began
discussions
in
the
1970s
and
we
finally
have
happened
in.
I
don't
know
2018
or
19
or
something
2015
2015..
So
it
was
actually
a
discussion
in
the
mid
70s
and
that's
how
long
it
took
to
put
it
together.
So
nothing
happens
overnight.
A
It
takes
the
lion's
road
to
visit
14th
street,
to
get
onto
the
freeway
and
get
out
of
town.
Have
we
thought
about
reopening
and
we
closed
that?
We
thought
about
opening
that
to
release
some
congestion
on
the
line.
Okay,
when
we
used
to
be
able
to
get
on
the
freeway
that
way.
Now
you
have
to
go
all
the
way.
H
B
A
Okay,
so
yeah,
let's
we're
gonna,
take
public
comment
and
then
we're
gonna
have
a
brief
talk
about
next
steps,
just
looking
at
a
version
2.0
of
the
plan
and
just
kind
of
what
the
the
timeline
going
forward
on
that
looks
like.
But
at
this
point
we
have
a
lot
of
patient
folks
here
and
it
has
been
our
our
two
hours.
We
said
it
was
going
to
be
so:
let's
open
it
up
to
public
comment.
A
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B
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Good
evening,
gregory
daggett,
I
would
like
to
respond
to
the
last
two
meetings
of
council,
anne's,
commission
and
that's
where
it
started.
The
game
came
with
it.
Growth
came
up
with
the
idea.
It
seemed
like
you
were
split,
half
a
half
on
that.
There
was
half
of
you
that
thought
this
was
going
to
be
redundant.
N
D
N
Put
it
in
writing
so
that,
because
you're
saying
that
you're
covering
this
and
a
lot
of
us
are
feeling
you
don't
have
all
those
people
and
that's
the
whole
reason
why
scott
came
up
with
this
proposal
and
you
seem
to
knock
it
out,
so
I
don't
think
you're
really
addressing
all
these
issues.
I'm
really
surprised
to
be
talking
about
the
barrel
district.
What
specialists
I
brought
up
last
time,
do
you
have
no
plan
for
the
future
of
the
wastewater
plant?
N
It
has
to
go
someplace
you're,
not
looking
for
the
future
of
the
city
of
the
president
that
are
going
to
be
in
the
future.
Where
is
that
waste
water
plant
going
to
be
your
likelihood?
I
think
this
has
even
been
brought
up
by
the
city
that
the
barrel
district
would
be
that
spot.
And
what
are
you
going
to
do?
You're
going
to
put
high
priced
buildings
in
there?
You
have
a
total
disregard
for
the
grand
jury
reports,
saying
no
high
rises
and
wetland
areas
you're.
N
N
But
this
is
like
the
major
leagues
now
and
I
just
don't
think
you're
looking
at
all
these
particular
areas,
a
lot
of
like
even
the
heights
that
you
talked
about
tonight
like
did
you
do
what
an
architect
would
do
with
some
kind
of
mock-up
where
you
would
go
to
the
site.
It
could
be
simple
as
a
balloon
on
a
building
to
actually
go
there
and
look
at
that
height
and
what
does
that
represent
between
the
surroundings
and
then
go
up
on
a
hill
and
then
take
a
look
at
that?
Have
you
done
that?
N
I
don't
think
you
have,
but
maybe
you
have,
but
it's
not
really
being
honest
to
the
to
the
community
if
you're
voting
for
over
four
stories,
because
I
think
over
four
stories-
you're
going
to
block
the
view
of
the
phase.
So
maybe
one
of
the
questions
up
here
are:
if
you
want
to
go
higher,
which
brings
more
people,
which
is
a
particular
benefit,
but
it
has
a
negative
too
that
you
won't
be
looking
at
the
fade
any
longer.
So
I
will
definitely
send
you
some
more
information
as
far
as
even
the
tsunami
zone.
N
N
N
A
N
J
N
M
L
M
N
L
N
M
L
J
Students
to
see
their
input
to
see
how
much
can
they
try
to
be
involved
in
the
process,
especially
in
type
of
sending
out
type
of
workshops
or
any
type
of
outreach
program,
so
they
can
be
informed
and
maybe
they
can't
give
their
opinions
of
like
oh.
I
would
actually
think
that
the
dairy
project
was
more
has
affordable
housing.
I
think
I
would
be
interested
in
having
those
housing
units
like
I
would
be
a
rancher,
so
I
think
it
is
it's
a
moral
obligation
for
the
city
staff
to
try
to
get
more
emperors
and
temple
students.
G
G
We're
a
long
way
from
that
critical
density
for
supporting
better
transit
as
well
as
walking
biking,
and,
if
we're
going
to
get
there
or
close
to
there,
we're
going
to
need
to
have
much
more
dense
development
in
the
gateway
area
than
we
currently
do
elsewhere
in
the
city.
In
practical
terms,
that
means
as
a
plant,
of
course,
another
critical
feature
that
makes
the
plants
so
like
pedestrian
friendly
are
the
direct
improvements
to
the
viking
pest
system.
G
D
M
M
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C
H
C
D
H
H
D
L
M
See
the
the
strategy
for
mitigating
building
mass
illustrated.
So
this
has
been
discussed
somewhat
tonight
so
that
you
don't
get
the
idea
that,
just
because
this
section
might
allow
for
a
limit
of
eight
stories
or
seven
stories
or
pictures
that
don't
look
like
that.
There's
a
lot
of
different
strategies
that
can
indicate
the
visual
impact
of
allowing
those
heights.
But
I
don't
want
it
to
get
lost
from
the
discussion.
And
I
haven't
really
heard
mentioned
tonight
that
there
was
a
slider
poll
that
took
place
last
week.
P
D
M
M
Allow
the
maximum
height
that
your
plan
does
allow
in
each
of
those
districts,
because
I
know
that
there's
so
many
other
things
that
will
stand
in
the
way
of
most
of
those
buildings
actually
getting
built
that
high.
But,
as
I
understand
it,
there's
a
lot
of
benefits
that
we
really
can
get
out
of
the
trade-off
of
allowing
the
potential
for
some
buildings
to
be
that
high.
We
get
a
lot
of
community
benefits
out
of
that
trade-off.
We
can
also
get
a.
M
M
M
M
M
Oh
and
I
you
know,
I
realized,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
debate
back
and
forth
on
this
l
street
corridor,
but
it
does
represent
a
space.
That's
actually
there.
It's
not
a
publicly
public
place
that
you
know
probably
plays
with
here
in
the
public
space
that
is
there
it's
a
quarter.
It
can
be
an
awesome
park.
I
mean
it
would
represent
something
that
we
have
just
in
the
area
alone,
from
8th
grade.
O
M
M
M
M
A
D
D
A
B
F
A
A
Neighborhoods
that
have
single
residents,
it
would
be
nice
riding
on
the
streets,
so
I'm
not
necessarily
not
in
favor
for
a
little
bit
higher
a
story
for
me,
but
but
I'm
willing
to
compromise
if
it
shares
a
buffer,
open
space
up
front
and
acquired
by
the
queen
now
from
students
is
another
thing.
I
highly
support
health
street
corridor,
as
the
linear
part
gives
us
a
great
opportunity
for
that.
A
Now
there
was
never
a
couple
things
heights
in
tandem,
that's
the
height
level,
in
tandem
with
the
setback.
Setbacks
is
something
that
was
interesting
and
I
kind
of
built
upon
that.
But
and
just
the
larger
I'm
thinking
the
larger,
the
building,
the
larger
the
set
step
back
and
it
would
like
to
get
started
at
three.
So
as
far
as
the
formal
scientific
surveys
we
haven't
had
a
scientific
survey,
there's
been
three
unscientific
ones
from
the
city
two
by
the
community.
D
A
A
There
has
been,
there
will
be
a
signal
required
at
the
end
of
l,
street
and
samoa
they'll
be
back
to
back
with
the
signal.
It's
just
gonna.
It
kind
of
increase
pedestrian
exposure
on
l
street
by
reducing
it
on
k
street.
So
I
think
it's
a
wash
and
so
anyways
and
toxic.
Please
please
talk
to
the
fire
district.
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J
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D
M
C
M
D
C
D
C
C
H
C
C
C
I'm
66
that
this
is
only
humboldt
state
university
people
here
living
here.
You
can
change
the
town
of
the
humboldt
state
city
of
humboldt,
and
I'm
saying
this
to
the
students
too,
who
wants
to
live
in
a
town
where
everyone's
mad
at
each
other,
because
there's
no
place
to
park
and
you
can't
you
can't
get
anywhere.
You
have
to
be
at
a
stop
sign
for
three
minutes.
I'm
sorry!
I
don't
understand
why
nobody's
talking
about
this.
I.
H
H
C
C
This
is
hsu,
pushing
this
and
there's
a
lot
more
people
living
in
this
town,
so
we're
going
to
so
50
you're
going
to
grow.
So
what
do
we
have
now?
6
000,
seven
thousand,
oh
in
three
years,
we're
gonna
have
twelve
thousand
fourteen
thousand
more
people
just
from
hsu.
What's
the
whole
population
of
our
town,
you
know.
Are
we
gonna
have
are.
C
A
E
M
A
A
G
M
E
H
A
H
D
K
H
D
A
Growing
up
they're
graduating
from
high
school
and
college
soon,
I'm
sure
there's
many
other
people
that
are
in
the
same
situation
than
I
am
when
they
leave
my
house
will
be
big
for
us
and
I
am
looking
forward
to
maybe
moving
into
a
cute
place
in
a
walkable
area
and
I
feel,
like
you
know,
with
that
kind
of
movement.
That
might
be
something
to
think
about
that.
You
know
just
because
people
live
in
their
houses
now
doesn't
mean
they're
always
going
to
live
in
their
houses.
And
can
I
add
something
like
that?
A
A
And
sharing
space,
but
if
there's
more
available
rentals,
where
these
students
could
maybe
this
is
one
of
their
closest
friends
or
in
a
studio
or
you
know,
have
a
little
more
autonomy
that
that
will
free
up
a
lot
of
that
single
family
housing
too,
which
could
either
you
know,
take
it
to
rental
market
for
for
families
that
want
to
live
in
it
or
to
to
the
seller's
market
for
people
that
want
to
be
able
to
buy
homes
that
might
be
yeah.
Families,
who
are
families
of
people
that
are
coming
to
work
in
the
community.
J
You
know
several
years
ago,
it
was
where
I
was
on
the
council.
You
know,
I
remember
paul
patino
said
that
it's
not
affordable
housing
unless
you
can
afford
to
own
it,
and
that
comment
always
stuck
with
me,
and
I
mean
you
know.
I
definitely
think
that's
something
you
need
to
consider
whether
it's
condos
or
some
other
format
but
yeah
having
some
elements
in
there,
where
there's
opportunities
for
home
ownership.
A
D
G
L
E
L
D
H
A
D
A
F
A
D
F
I
I
I've
actually
thought
hard
about
this
idea
of
an
advisory
committee
for
the
gateway
and
over
the
past
week
a
bunch
of
people
have
come
up
to
me
and
said
oh
you're,
in
favor
of
an
advisory
committee.
Others
have
said,
thank
goodness,
you're,
not
in
favor
of
an
advisory
committee.
I
do
think
that
the
city
council
should
make
an
explicit
decision
sooner
rather
than
later.
A
That's
going
to
work
for
the
planning,
commission
and
also
not
you
know,
step
on
the
planning
commission's
toes
and
actually,
you
know,
work
in
a
way
that
would
help
you
guys
in
the
formulation
of
recommendations
in
you
know
getting
questions
answered
working
with
consultants
to
develop
form-based
code,
and
so
why
you
said
that,
because
yeah,
I
think
that
you
guys
want
us
to
make
a
decision
about
it.
But
I,
at
least
personally
feel
that
I
want
it
at
least
to
be
led
by
a
you
know,
an
affirmative
yeah.
A
This
is
something
that
could
be
really
useful
to
us,
a
recommendation,
because
there
was
not.
You
know
a
recommendation
necessarily
to
form
that
it
was
me
writing
a
column
of
like
I
think
you
support
it.
I
don't
know
if
you
do
like
you
said
you've
had
people
come
up
to
you
and
say:
oh
you
support
it.
Oh
you
don't
support
you
know
and,
and
that
sometimes
it's
kind
of
hard
to
tell,
and
so
that
you
know
if
we,
as
decision
makers
on
the
council,
can
affirmatively
know
that
it's
going
to
be
something
successful.
A
A
You
know
or
or
it
won't
help
you
and
if
you
think
it
won't
help
you,
then
you
know
tell
us
that
as
well,
because
I
don't
feel
necessarily
comfortable
making
that
formal
decision
without
knowing
it's
going
to
be
something
that
is
useful
to
the
commission
that
you
guys
want,
because
it's
going
to
be
directly
part
of
your
body.
How
did
we
go
about
that?
I
didn't
even
know.
That
was
something
that
we
could
do
do
we
want
to
discuss
it
among
us.
A
I
I
I
A
M
G
I
like
judith,
and
I
think
everyone
else
on
the
planet
commission-
has
thought
a
lot
about
this.
I
thought
a
lot
about
it.
I
think,
having
systems
that
take
community
input
and
get
staff
reports
interact
with
the
city
and
then
advise
the
city
council
is
a
really
great
idea,
and
I
think
that
you
call
that
the
planning
commission
and
I'm
concerned
on
a
number
of
levels.
First
of
all,
I'm
heartened
to
hear
that
if
there
is
such
a
body,
it
would
be
subordinate
to
the
planning
commission.
G
I
think
if
it's
parallel
in
any
way
to
the
planning
commission,
it's
going
to
be
it's
going
to
create
a
potential
log
jam
in
us
advising
the
city
council.
I
think
it's
going
to
create
a
situation
where
who
does
the
city
council
listen
to
if
this
committee
and
the
planning
commission
don't
have
the
same
view
on
any
specific
item?
I
think
this
proposal
talks
about
saving
staff
time.
G
I
have
thought
a
lot
about
it
and
I
can't
possibly
see
a
way
that
creating
a
situation
where
city
staff
has
to
interact
with
yet
one
more
group
saves
them
time
that
just
I
don't
unders,
I'm
not
convinced
there.
I
also
think
that
there's
nothing
stopping
a
group
of
concerned
citizens
from
forming
collating
pulling
together
professional
opinions
and
submitting
them
to
the
planning
commission
right
now.
I
think
if
such
a
group
had
to
make
fppc
disclosures
and
become
a
brown
act
body,
it
would
slow
down
the
work
that
they're
talking
about
wanting
to
do
quickly.
G
C
A
A
D
B
H
A
P
A
A
A
It
feels
like
a
one-way
funnel
and
that
it
just
goes
into
this
big
black
hole,
and
then
the
community
is
like
well
what
about
the
infrastructure
or
what
about
the
arcata
fire
district,
because
there's
no
answers-
and
I
feel
like
this
task
force-
can
answer
these,
and
I
know
that
the
planning-
I
don't
feel
that
that
they
would
be
taking
over
what
the
planning
commission
should
do.
I
mean
I
think,
in
a
compliment
that
they
feel
like
we're
all
experts
in
these.
A
A
But
but
you
know
what
I
am
an
expert
in
is
perhaps-
or
at
least
I
advocate
for
community
engagement
and
I
feel
like
if
we
want
this
to
happen
and
happen
quickly,
then
we
need
to
include
the
committee
because
it's
going
to
get
log
jammed
at
the
end,
and
my
fear
is
that
we
won't
get
housing
then,
and
I
want
housing,
and
I
want
it
desperately,
and
I
want
it
now,
and
I
really
want
to
see
that
we
have
home
ownership
opportunities,
because
I
hear
that
from
the
community.
That's
what
they're
wanting
anyway
yeah.
F
A
J
Know
I
think
one
problem
with
you
know
leaving
it
to
like
private
citizens
to
form
their
own
group.
Is
that
then
they
just
automatically
get
labeled
with
nippies.
You
know,
I
know
it's
kind
of
like
what
a
lot
of
people
say
about
rga,
which
I
really
haven't
seen
evidence
of
that
it
seems
like
they're,
pretty
supportive
of
housing.
They
just
you
know,
really
want
to
bring
a
community
perspective
to
it,
and
I
wanted
to
address
a
comment
that
judith
made
earlier
about.
J
You
know
bringing
hsu
into
the
conversation,
and
you
know
I
think
the
tragedy
is
is
that
we
make
significant
attempts
to
bring
them
into
the
conversation
we
meet
with
them.
Quarterly
we
meet
with
all
their
administrators
karen
and
the
mayor
has
breakfast
with
the
president
and
it's
like
you
know.
What
else
can
we
do,
and
it
just
seems
like
at
the
end
of
the
day.
You
know
they
choose
to
just
leave
us
in
the
dark
and
do
whatever
they
want
to
do
so.
J
You
know,
if
there's
any
other
ideas
on
how
we
can
bring
them
to
the
table
and
be
more
forthcoming.
You
know,
I
think
we
should
definitely
talk
about
that
and
then
on.
The
idea
of
you
know
acquiring
property
for
open
space.
A
couple
weeks
ago,
I
did
request
an
agenda
item
for
the
city
to
look
at
purchasing
property.
You
know
now
rather
than
later
so
it
could
be
for
that
use.
It
could
be,
for
you
know,
trade-offs
later,
but
hopefully
that's
coming
before
council.
B
B
So
one
of
the
things
about
the
university
I
know
judith
is
really
interested
in
having
a
conversation
with
them.
The
fact
is,
I
don't
think
they
know
exactly
who's
going
to
come
and
offer
to
sell
their
property
to
them,
and
if
it
looks
good,
then
you
consider
it
if
it
doesn't,
they
turn
it
down.
You've
had
a
lot
of
people
over
the
years
come.
B
B
And
you're
going
to
put
that
out.
You're
going
to
you
know,
have
you
ever
bought
a
house
or
a
building
or
know
someone
who
has
it's
confidential,
the
realtors
don't
brag
about
it.
It's
not
flying
the
house,
they
don't
say
anything
or
meredith
is
selling
hers
or
scott
is
thinking
it's
confidential
and
you're
going
to
find
that
with
the
university
too.
So
that's
that's
where
that's
how
I
feel
about
bringing
them
forward
and
having
them.
It's
not
going
to
happen.
I
just
don't
believe
what.
B
A
B
B
J
They're,
that's
what
we're
supposed
to
say.
Yeah
just
quickly
say
you
know
just
keep
thinking
about
how
you
know
the
commissioners
are
here
like
totally
for
free
and
just
all
the
volunteers.
They
do,
and
I
mean
I
feel
like
it
would
be
appropriate
to
agenda
as
an
item
to
talk
about,
I
mean
I
think
would
be
you
know
we
get
like
750
hundred
a
month
to
give
each
commissioner
five
hundred
dollars
a
meeting
or
five
hundred
dollars
a
month.
D
A
A
A
Last
meeting
too
talking
about
yeah,
either
being
able
to
type
in
something
like
that
or
stipending.
You
know
advisory
committee,
where
we
do
bring
on
experts
that
are
truly
experts
in
their
field,
because
yeah-
and
we
had
this
conversation
too-
that
you
know
the
initial
proposal.
We
saw
it's
not
going
to
lighten
up
our
staff
and
it's
not
going
to
make
it
it's
going
to
be
expensive.
A
It's
going
to
be
work
for
our
staff
and
we're
going
to
have
to
hire
consultants,
and
it's
going
to
be
hard
work
to
do
this,
and
it's
going
to
take
a
lot
of
time.
But,
as
I
said
before,
you
know
if,
if
we
do
it
now-
and
we
do
it
well
and
we
do
it
right,
it
will
make
development
in
the
future
much
more
streamlined
for
our
community.
It
will
make
developers
more
comfortable
comfortable
to
build
here.
It
will
just
it
will
be
better.
You
know,
in
the
long
run,
for
everyone
so
yeah.
F
A
I
A
C
K
K
K
K
K
L
Would
add,
too
that
if
it's
specific
detailed
expertise
that
you're
looking
for
I
mean
we
have
a
contract
with
plan
west,
they
have
ghd,
which
has
you
know
as
a
sub
consultant,
we
can
bring
any
of
those
disciplines
that
you
know
fall
energy
of
ghd's
expertise
able
to
address
concerns
that
come
up
around
any
of
those
specific
areas.
So
that's
that's
an
alternative
as
well
great.
E
A
P
A
A
A
H
L
L
Ben
noble
is
our
planner,
that's
in
the
lead
for
that.
We
have
a
couple
of
architects
that
are
contracted
to
provide
input
both
that
form-based
code
and
the
intent
at
this
point
was
to
take
the
the
engagement
that
we've
been
doing
on
the
forum
base
code
and
come
back
with
a
proposal
based
on
what
we're
hearing
from
that
and
the
guidance
from
those
professionals.
L
F
L
If
you
look
back
you'll
see
that
the
webinars
have
been
getting
more
and
more
detailed,
we
started
out
with
sort
of
an
overview.
The
last
one
was
more
specific
and
looking
at
you
know
the
the
the
design
concepts
that
could
be
used
to
ameliorate
so
that
the
the
impact
of
that
development,
so
that
people
had
a
better
understanding
of
what
does
it
mean
to
have
any
story,
building
a
six-story
building,
etc,
super
helpful
and
then
yeah
and
then
the.
D
L
L
I
L
D
L
A
specific
date
at
this
point,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
with
all
of
these
engagements
is
and
the
beauty
of
of
zoom
one
of
the
silver
linings.
If
the
the
consequences
that
resulted
in
zoom
is
that
we
can
make
these
enduring
engagements.
So
we
have
the
engagement
folks
that
are
in
the
room.
You
get
the
snapshot
of
whoever
happened
to
show
up
at
the
time,
but
we're
also
translating
these
into
enduring
engagements
that
people
can
go
back
and
then
watch
on
our
youtube
and
take
the
surveys
and
participate.
L
You
know
not
only
remotely
but
outside
of
the
actual
meeting
space.
So
we
can
continue
to
get
gather
data
so
we'll
continue
to
do
those
kinds
of
engagements
and
a
mix
of
other
different
types
as
well.
Don't
have
a
specific
date
for
the
next
one.
Is
it's
a
lot
of
work,
putting
them
together
and
it
requires
the
the
work
of
all
our
consultant
team,
but
we
will
give
adequate.
D
K
L
H
A
Especially
in
like
college
towns
that
do
form-based
code,
like
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
are,
you
know,
we
have
a
lot
of
professors
and
students
and
and
alumni.
You
know
that,
are
you
know
hyper-educated
in
their
fields,
but
they're,
probably
not
experts
in
planning
and
that
they
want
to.
You
know,
give
all
their
feedback
and
think
that
they're,
the
expert,
but
really
you
know
to
be
able
to
bring
in
the
actual
experts
that
can
tell
us
how
to
do
it
right.
I
think.
J
H
A
D
A
H
F
J
L
At
the
time
I
laid
out,
you
know
the
penalties
that
we
would
face
if
we
didn't
meet
those
those
deadlines,
and
I
also
committed
that
our
staff
would
work
with
those
funding
agencies
and
with
the
state
to
try
and
resolve
those
grant
and
I'm
happy
to
report
that
we've
been
successful
on
all
fronts.
At
this
point.
Actually,
you
all
were
successful
at
resolving
our
mandatory
rezone
because
of
the
work
that
you
did
with
the
housing
for
homeless
overlay
zone
with
the
red
roof
in
and
the
days
end
projects.
L
Those
got
us
over
the
threshold
for
our
lower
income
arena,
and
so
we
haven't
gotten
a
formal
letter
that
it's
still
under
review,
but
the
state
hcd
is
going
to
send
us
a
letter
saying
that
you've
met
that
threshold
criteria.
That's
no
longer
a
an
issue
that
was
the
august
31st
deadline,
the
sb2
money
that
we
had.
There
were
a
couple
of
deadlines,
but
one
was
at
the
end
of
this
year.
L
That's
also
statewide
going
to
be
revised
so
that
jurisdictions
have
an
additional
year
to
meet
that
that
requirement,
and
I
I
believe,
we'll
be
able
to
meet
that
one.
Our
salt
funding
has
also
we
haven't
gotten
the
official
word
that
we
have
an
extension,
but
we've
we've
inquired
and
they've
said.
Yes,
we
can.
We
can
do
the
extension,
and
so
at
this
point
we
have
no
lines
that
are,
you
know
putting
us
at.