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Batch 2 July 5 Economic Development Committee Meeting
A
Welcome
to
this
the
july
5th
meeting
the
economic
development
committee
for
the
city
of
arcata,
we'll
start
with
the
roll
call,
I'm
serge
mahalo,
I'm
here,
it's
panta
right
here.
C
C
A
Right
welcome
everybody
we'll
start
with
oral
communications.
This
is
provided
for
people
to
address
the
economic
development
committee
or
submit
written
communications
of
matters
not
in
the
agenda.
At
the
conclusion
of
the
oral
and
written
communications,
we
will
respond
to
the
statements
and
any
request
that
requires
ed.
Action
will
be
set
forth
by
the
edc
for
a
future
agenda
or
referred
to
staff.
A
Absolutely
that
sounds
good.
We've
got
some
written
communications
from
jane
woodward
comments
for
the
july
5th
economic
development
committee
meeting
you
think
jen
should
I
just
read
them
all
for
us.
D
If
that's
what
you're
going
to
do
so
rather
than
my
reading
them,
I
think
it
might
be
better
if
you
read
them
during
my
period
or
we
give
you
a
few
minutes
to
read
them
at
some
point
here
rather
than
my
sitting
here
and
reading
them
to
you.
D
So,
in
any
event,
I
don't
know
how
you
want
to
handle
it
when
we
get
to
the
topic,
but
you
have
my
written
comments
and
I
don't
want
to
just
read
them
to
you.
It
doesn't
make
sense
and
unless
you
want
me
to
I'll,
be
happy
to
do
that
if
you'd,
like
whatever
works
for
you
just
let
me
know
when
the
time
comes,.
A
D
B
G
Okay,
thank
you,
jen.
I
want
to
thank
everyone
on
the
committee
for
your
service.
I
know
it's
a
lot
of
work
and
I
appreciate
your
what
you
add
to
arcata.
As
jen
knows,
I
have
a
website
arcada
numeralone.com
circada1.com.
G
G
There
is
a
transcription
on
there,
but
it's
not
complete
yet,
and
I've
been
talking
with
jenna
about
that.
The
presentation
that
she
gave,
I
thought
was
very
instructive.
I've
been
recommending
it
to
a
lot
of
people.
I
feel
that
it,
it
allayed
a
lot
of
the
fears
and
concerns
about
the
gateway
plan
and
the
role
of
business
in
the
plan.
G
The
heard
some
of
this
before
I
did
have
some
objections
to
what
she
said.
She
she
said
that
there's
it's
just
the
four
percent
of
arcata's
jobs
are
in
the
plan
that
sounds
very
low
to
me.
She
gave
a
figure
of
376..
I
I
also
think
that's
low.
Just
on
the
block,
where
haleashi
and
north
coast
children's
services,
the
pub
is,
I
think,
there's
probably
150
or
200
jobs
right
there,
but
the
the
idea
of
just
counting
the
jobs,
I
think,
is
not
what's
important.
G
It's
it's
what
the
jobs
bring
to
the
area,
so
if
you
take
out
such
as
the
university
and
remove
the
city
jobs
and
look
at
jobs
that
have
either
entrepreneurial,
if
you
want
to
look
at
it
that
way
or
what
I
look
at
is
people
who
are
jobs,
businesses
that
bring
money
into
the
area
I
used
to
be
involved
with
north
coast
children's
services.
G
G
I
guess
this
this
contin.
I
can
continue
this
later
when
we
talk
about
the
gateway
itself,
but
that's
that's
it.
I
just
want
to
appreci
express
my
appreciation
to
you
for
the
work
that
you're
doing
and
as
well
as
tell
you
that
my
website
is
very
open.
If
you
like
to
write
articles
or
anything
that
sort
I'd
love
to
hear
from
you
thanks
very
much.
A
H
A
I
C
B
Yeah,
so
I'll
just
give
you
guys
a
little
bit
of
brief
background.
I
mean,
I
think
you
guys
are
pretty
well
aware
of
the
gateway
plan
and
we've
had
multiple
meetings
talking
about
it
at
this
point,
but
basically,
staff
is
responsible
for
providing
the
council
the
compiled
recommendations
and
a
formal
staff
recommendation
and
there's
different
ways
that
this
can
happen.
Basically,
there
could
be
grammatical
or
minor
changes
that
you
wanted
to.
B
You
know
making
a
little
clarifying
change
or
something
like
that.
So
the
way
that
we
anticipate
bringing
this
forward
is,
and
also
understanding
that
some
of
these
may
be
conflicting
is
the
substantive
changes
that
don't
have
any
conflicting
recommendations
will
be
incorporated
into
the
element
and
then
it'll
be
identified
with
an
underline
or
a
strikethrough
they'll
be
annotated
by
what
the
source
is
and
that's
kind
of.
B
What
that
would
look
like
and
then
changes
that
have
conflicting
recommendations
or
they
don't
comport
with
the
goals
and
objectives
of
the
element
will
still
be
summarized
in
a
spreadsheet,
with
a
staff
recommendation
and
policy
balancing
analysis.
So
that's
how
this
will
go
forward
and
that's
why
we're
going
back
to
all
of
the
committees
to
go
through
and
and
I've
just
highlighted
the
employment
area.
That
doesn't
mean
that's
the
only
area
you
guys
can
discuss.
You
can
definitely
make
changes
or
make
recommendations
for
changes
in
any
other
area.
B
I
know
that
we've
sort
of
focused
on
that,
but
then
there's
also
some,
I
believe,
there's
some
policies
in
the
in
the
land
use
section,
which
is
policy
chapter
one
as
far
as
relocating
existing
uses
that
are
incompatible
with
the
plan
that
we've
discussed.
So
I
just
want
you
guys
to
be
aware
that
it's
not,
I
was
really
careful
to
leave
it
real
open
so
that
you
guys
can
have
a
discussion
about
the
whole
document.
B
You
don't
have
to
discuss
just
the
employment
section,
but
I
did
attach
that
because
that
one's
the
most
relevant
I
felt
like
to
our
committee,
but
you're
more
than
welcome
to
discuss
any
of
any
of
the
other
elements
as
well,
I'm
to
pull
up
a
document
and
it
and
just
to
be
clear
too
we're
going
to
be
doing
this
with
the
committee's
planning
commission.
B
We
can
bring
this
back
to
your
august
edc
agenda,
to
discuss
it
again
to
discuss
it
further.
So
you
have
a
lot
of
different
options
options
here
and
we
could
do
a
special.
We
could
do
a
special
meeting
to
dig
into
it
as
well.
If
you
guys
decided
you
wanted
to
do
that.
So
just
bringing
this
up
that
you
have
a
lot
of
different
options.
B
Excuse
me,
as
a
committee,
so
I'll
share
with
you
what
I've
created
to
kind
of
get
the
feedback,
and
I
also
put
some
just
thoughts
that
I
had
heard
from
the
group
they're
not
necessarily
recommendations,
and
this
was
the
thing
is
that
you
guys
haven't
actually
made
a
formal
recommendation
on
anything
except
the
implementation
measures,
the
focus.
I
think
there
were
five
of
them
that
you
guys
did
back
last
year.
B
So
that's
the
only
formal
recommendation
that's
been
made,
and
so
what
we're
asking
for
at
this
point
is,
if
there's
something
that
you
really
would
like
to
see,
edited
changed
enhanced,
making
those
recommendations
so
that
we
can
share
that
with
with
the
planning
commission
in
the
council.
So.
E
B
Is
there
a
final
draft
yeah
there
will
be
so
they're
not
making
that
I
should
go
back
they're,
not
these
are
recommendations,
and
so
that's
why
there's
going
to
be
that
strike
through
and
then
there's
going
to
be
ones
that
don't
necessarily
fit
or
are
conflicting?
Let's,
let's
say
you
guys
come
and
you
say
we
want
all
streets
and
transportation
says
no.
We
want
all
bikes,
okay,
I'm
just
throwing
that
out
there
as
a
funny
one.
It's
not
not
real!
B
B
So
all
of
that
information
is
going
to
go
to
city
council
because
they're
going
to
be
obviously
the
body
that
decides
what
changes
are
officially
made
like
what
actually
goes
into
the
document
and
we
are
going
to
be
bringing
these
it's.
My
understanding,
anyway,
from
the
discussions
that
I've
had
with
our
staff
is
that
we
are
going
to
be
bringing
these
to
the
different
bodies
as
we
go,
so
we're
going
to
try
and
compile
everything
and
bring
them
bring
them
to
different
bodies.
B
I
believe
planning
commission
has
been
asking
for
this
as
well,
so
that's
kind
of
my
understanding
of
how
it
will
work.
Hopefully
I'm
relaying
that
in
the
in
a
correct
way,
but
yeah,
so
you
may
make
it.
You
may
make
a
recommendation
and
let's
say
another
committee
makes
the
same
recommendation.
B
Obviously
we're
going
to
highlight
that,
as
both
committees
really
made
this
same
or
similar
recommendation,
because
it's
all
happening
sort
of
at
the
same
time-
and
you
guys
are
on
you-
know
your
committees
at
one
different
time.
You
may
not
go
to
the
forest
committee
or
creeks
and
wetlands
or
whatever
other
committees
may
be.
You
know
making
recommendations
so
and
there
may
be
conflicting
recommendations.
You
know
not
all
of
our
committees
have
the
same
goals,
so
that
could
happen
too
well.
E
B
Yeah,
so
it's
not
going
to
be
yeah
we're
not
going
to
strike
it.
That's
going
to
be
on
a
different.
Anything
of
anything
like
that,
we'll
be
honest.
They'll
be
summarized
on
a
different
spreadsheet,
with
a
staff
recommendation
and
policy
balancing
analysis,
so
it'll
get
there.
It'll
be
it'll
still
go
to
the
to
the
city.
Council
they'll
eventually
see
it,
but
it
won't
be
incorporated
because.
E
B
B
Okay,
can
you
see
that
yes,
so
I
sent
two
attachments,
this
land
use
policy
was
not
in.
I
didn't
attach
it
I
sort
of
after
reading,
through
these
after
reading.
Through
these
I
made,
I
just
got
to
the
understanding
that
I
really
should
have
included
this,
because
this
was
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
talk
about
quite
a
bit
when
we
went
over
what
kind
of
business
is
in
the
gateway.
B
You
know
talk
amongst
yourself
and
we
can
look
at
those
two,
but
these
are
just
the
ones
really
that
these
three
are
the
ones
that
are
in
the
employment
section,
and
I
just
pulled
them
out
here
so
that
I
could
jot
down
notes.
If
you
guys
wanted
me
to.
H
B
Yeah
so
up
here,
these
are
just
some
kind
of
things
that
had
come
out
of
other
meetings
that
I
heard
in
other
meetings
that
I
wanted
to
just
sort
of
refresh
you
guys
with
these
are
some
of
the
things
that
I
heard
from
you
guys,
but
you
didn't
make
recommendations
on
them.
Obviously,
but
they
were
just
things
that
sort
of
came
up
in
some
of
our
other
meetings,
and
so
I
just
threw
these
out
there.
B
Just
you'd
have
a
kind
of
talking
point
someplace
to
start
as
a
group
and
then
the
three
sorry,
the
four
policies.
These
three
are
the
ones
that
were
in
the
attachment
under
the
employment
section
that
I
gave
you
and
this
first
one
is
under
land
use.
So
it's
on
page
46
if
you've
got
a
copy
of
the
gateway.
A
I
love
it.
I
think
one
thing
that
we
had
talked
about
that
I
didn't
want
to
miss
on.
There
would
be
the
idea
of
creating
some
kind
of
equity-based
investment
opportunity
in
the
form
of
apartments
or
condominiums.
A
That
interesting,
supporting
community
land
trust,
housing,
co-ops,
maybe
apartment
style
or
a
condo
style,
where
everyone
can
own.
A
E
This
is
more
like
chasing
the
rabbit
around
the
city
of
arcato
website,
municipal
code
budget
and
plans,
but
there's
no
gateway
plan.
Current
project
doesn't
have
a
gateway
plan.
Where
is
the
gateway
plan
to
go
back
and
review
it?
I
mean
I've
got
it
somewhere
in
my
emails
but
hold
on
hiding
in
the
city
of
arcata.
Don't
you
love.
B
B
C
Oh,
I
was
just
reading.
What
is
it,
what
are
those
zoning
implications?
Is
it
just
and
for
the
leak
creamery
district
right
below
your
oh.
B
This
one
here
yeah,
so
yes,
so
basically
the
zoning,
the
creamery
district
has
its
own
zoning
overlay
right
now
and
so
that
that
will
be
removed.
But
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
creamery
district
itself
is
identified
in
the
plan,
because
when
you
look
at
the
maps
in
the
plan
right
now,
we
talk
about
the
gateway
as
being
the
heart
of
this
entire
plan,
but
it's
not
identified
in
any
of
the
maps,
and
so
I
think
just
highlighting
making
sure
that
it's
highlighted
that
that
is,
you
know
it's.
A
A
H
Yeah
and
I'll
just
say
jen,
I
think
you
did
a
really
beautiful
job
of
condensing.
You
know
the
the
points
that
have
emerged
that
are
important
to
folks
into
these.
These
bullets
that
you
have
here
on
the
top
and
just
acknowledge
james
point
about
form
based
code
was
well
taken,
certainly
has
been
buzzy
for
the
past
30
years
and
brings
you
know
a
commitment
to
that.
I
think
brings
our
planning
practice
today,
and
so
I
think,
yeah
just
a
question.
B
Hasn't
been
skipped
yet
it
hasn't
been
scheduled.
Yet
there
there
was
supposed
to
be
a
special
meeting
on
july
12th,
but
there
were
scheduling
conflicts.
It
sounds
like
on
both
the
planning,
commission
and
city
council
side,
so
we're
trying
to
find
a
date
that
will
work
for
everybody.
It's
likely
going
to
be,
I
would
say
sometime
in
august
or
september,
but
I
really
don't
know
so
it
hasn't
we
haven't
had
any
new
dates
floated
yet
that
I'm
aware
of
so,
hopefully
sooner
rather
than
later.
B
So
if
it's
something
that
you
guys
did
want
to
have
more
of
a
discussion
on
and
and
possibly
form
a
subcommittee,
we
could
look
at
scheduling
a
special
meeting
where
you
could
form
that
subcommittee
and
then
have
that
discussion
between
now
and
our
august
meeting
and
then
come
back
with
some.
You
know
pretty
targeted
recommendations
at
the
august
meeting.
I
think
that
that
would
be
fine.
I
fully
anticipated
having
this
come
up
again
in
august,
so
this
was
just
sort
of
the
initial
conversation
and
I'm
really
glad
that
we're
having
it
we
didn't
have.
B
I
wasn't
able
to
get
a
speaker.
I
know
we
had
talked
about
having
sbdc
come,
and
so
this
actually
gave
us
more
of
an
opportunity
to
have
a
discussion
at
today's
meetings.
It
gave
us
more
time,
so
I
really
just
wanted
you
guys
to
start
digging
into
it
a
little
bit
and
having
the
conversation
and
then,
if
you
did
decide,
I
should
have
worded
it
correctly
on
the
on
the
on
the
agenda,
so
that
you
could
form
the
subcommittee,
but
I
didn't
even
think
about
that
at
the
time.
I'm
sorry.
B
H
B
B
If,
if
you
decide
you
wanted
to
do
that,
that's
what
I
would
recommend
I
wouldn't
recommend
necessarily
waiting
to
the
august
2nd
meeting
to
form
that
subcommittee,
just
because
I
think
that
you
want
to
make
sure
that
your
your
thoughts
as
a
group
are
are
input
and
included,
and
I
just
don't
know
you
know
at
this
point
really
what
that
what
that
timeline
is
looking
like.
It
seems
like
that
meeting
is
still
sort
of
up
in
the
air,
so.
E
B
No,
I
think
I
don't
think
it
needs
to
be
a
week.
I
think
I
could
look
at
what
are
actually
let's
see
what's
right
here.
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
shorter
than
that.
I
think
it's
24
hours
actually
24
or
48
hours,
so
we
could
do
it
fairly
quickly.
E
B
We
were
going
to
hold
a
special
meeting
yeah
it's
just
whether
or
not
they're
going
to
be
available.
I
don't
know
and
from
like
I
said
from
humnoths.
It
sounded
like
summer
was
going
to
be
a
little
hectic
for
him.
So
I'm
not
positive
that
we're
going
to
get
a
response
back,
but
I
don't
I
don't
know
so.
E
We
can
try,
so
I
this
is
where
roberts
kind
of
falls
apart
for
me.
So
if
we
out
and
I'm
not
even
sure,
that's
the
applicable
thing,
it
may
be
just
the
brown
act
kind
of
stuff,
but
if
we
shoot
out
a
thing
that
says
hey,
we
want
to
have
a
meeting
for
this.
Are
you
interested
in
being
on
it
that
doesn't
cross
any
lines,
because
that
way,
no.
B
E
Yeah,
well,
that's
my
and
that's.
My
underlying
question
is
if
somebody
wanted
to
be
on
it,
but
now
we're
scheduling
this
meeting,
while
they're
out
yeah
that
they
couldn't
be
on
their
meeting,
but
they
may
want
to
be
part
of
the
subcommittee,
and
I
I
just
want.
I
don't
want
to
preclude
someone
with
such
short
notice
for
a
meeting
from
being
on
the
subcommittee.
That's
I
guess
what
I
was
getting
at.
H
And
I'll
just
to
add
a
point
on
that
too,
where
I
I
don't
know,
this
is
so
the
crux
of
our
work
or
these
kind
of
recommendations
right
on
plans
like
this.
That's
it's
so
central
that
it
just
kind
of
feels
to
me,
like
probably
everyone
has
input,
so
I'm
wondering
if
there's
another
format
besides
subcommittee,
that's
available
for
us.
B
Yeah
we
could
do
I
mean
we
could
talk
about
this
tonight
until
seven,
because
we
have
we
have
two
hours
worth
of
meeting
tonight
that
we
can
go
through
and
talk
about
it,
which
is
like.
I
said
part
of
the
reason
why
I
decided
to
go
ahead
and
put
it
on
the
agenda,
because
we
had
such
an
open,
open
meeting.
We
could
also
schedule
another
special
meeting
for
all
of
our
members
and
dig
into
it
again
at
that
special
meeting.
So
yeah
there's
lots
of
opportunities.
B
So
if
everybody
is
really
interested
in
participating
and
wants
to
wants
to
do
that,
we
can
also
do
that
and
happy
to
schedule.
Another
special
meeting-
I
don't
have
a
ton
of-
I
think
I
don't
have
we're
going
to
all
the
committees.
So
I
have
to
look
at
my
schedule
because
there
are
multiple
different
committees
that
are
happening
this
month
so
but
yeah.
We
could
definitely
make
it
work.
Yeah.
B
B
You
know,
go
all
the
way
through,
because
I
know
you
guys
were
really
interested
in
transportation
as
well,
and
so
I
think
it's
important
to
you
know
if
there's,
if
there's
policy
language
in
there,
that
you
wanted
to
look
at
to
be
able
to
do
that
too.
That
was
one
of
the
one
of
the
recommendations
I
think
was
alternative
transportation
as
far
as
implementation
measures.
So
I
you
know
just
throwing
it
out
there
that
that
might
be
another
another
spot
worth
looking
at,
but
we
can
go
through
the
entire
thing.
B
If
you
wanted
to
what
do
you
guys
have
access
to
your
calendars?
And
here
I'll
stop
sharing
this
for
a
second
and
I'll
pull
up
my
calendar.
I
B
The
20th
we
have
city
council
and
the
19th
we
have
creeks
and
wetlands,
so
those
won't
work.
B
Oh,
I
saw
okay,
I
don't
know
if
that
makes
it
official,
but
well
that's
helpful.
At
least
that
way
I
know
and
and
then
again
we
can
reach
out
to
travis
and
hamnot,
and
let
them
know
that
hey
we're
going
to
be
meeting
and
and
really
digging
into
this
more
going
through
each
of
the
policies,
and
that
way
you
guys
can
all
come
back
really
prepared
and
we'll
have
that
full.
B
You
know
two
hours
to
go
through
the
document.
It's
right
after
our
hlc
meeting,
so
I'll
just
double
check
and
make
sure
that
she's
that
dilo
delos
able
to
keep
that
to
an
hour
so
that
we
can
log
on
right
at
five.
But
if
not,
it
may
need
to
be
5
30.,
so
I'll
I'll.
Let
you
guys
know
just
to
make
sure
that
they
have
enough
time
to
dig
into
it
too,
because
I
think
that's
what
they're
going
to
be
going
over
at
their
meeting
and
they
may
need
longer
so,
but
that's
fine.
B
E
Think
that
I
think
that
makes
sense
just
to
hit
some
high
things
yeah.
You
know
just
take
a
look
at
it.
Maybe
you
know
acid
test
some
of
this
stuff,
at
least
what
you
put
together
and
other
things
that
have
kind
of
come
up,
and
we
can
talk
about
the
material
that
was
submitted.
I
think
that's
also
appropriate,
since
it
talks
about
a
resource.
I
have
just
a
very
basic
overall
question:
what
is
the
implementation
budget
for
this.
C
E
E
Are
certainly
things
in
here
that
you
know
I
mean
I
just
right
off
the
top
you
pop
you,
you
removed
your
screen
that
you
had
up
there,
but
it
talks
about
providing
assistance
to
relocate
businesses.
Oh.
B
E
B
I
mean
yeah,
no,
we
don't
have
I
we.
We
have
a
budget
to
to
actually
prepare
the
to
prepare
the
for
base
code
to
prepare
the
gateway
plan,
but
outside
of
that,
these
all
of
these
implementation
measures
we
would
have
to
find
funding.
For
now
we
have
some
funding
sources
for
business
assistance,
that
type
of
thing,
because
we
do
have
a
business
assistance
program.
So
we
have
those
programs
in
place,
but
there's
going
to
be
additional
additional
measures
that
we're
going
to
have
to
look
for
additional
funding
sources
for
so
yeah.
E
Okay,
and
so
in
that
light,
you
know
there
are
things
that
we
are
going
to
recommend
that
cost
money
right.
So
I
think
we
should
be
rather
pointed
about
that,
to
the
extent
that
there
are
expense
items,
because
I
just
if
you
pop
up
the
thing
that
you
had
up
earlier,
I'm
talking
about
relocating
businesses
yep,
you
know
that
is
not
free
on
a
lot
of
levels,
and
so
you
know
path
of
least
resistance.
E
What
are
you
doing?
Is
it
corporate
welfare?
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
kind
of
fall
into
that.
That
gets
pretty
mushy
pretty
fast,
but
I
do
think
that
you
can't
just
tell
people
that
you
know.
G
E
Told
you,
your
house
could
be
painted
orange
and
you
just
did
that,
and
now
we
want
a
painted
yellow,
that's
not
cool.
So
anyway.
That
was
my
something
that
I
think
is
is
important
that
we
actually
quantify
because
you
you
do.
I
mean
this
part,
there's
two
things
in
this
that
and
I
don't
want
to
get
on
a
soapbox
here,
but
there
are
two
two
really
important
components
to
this
to
me:
the
functionality
of
it
and
the
deliverability
of
it.
E
Because
they're
not
the
same
thing,
you
can
come
up
with
a
great
plan
that
you
know:
that's
hey,
we're
gonna,
sail
the
seven
seas
and
put
that
thing
into
a
rock
on
day
two
and-
and
you
don't
want
to
be
in
a
situation
where
we,
you
know,
go
into
it
all
bright-eyed
and
bushy-tailed,
and
find
out
that
the
real
world
hurts-
and
I
just
I
want
to
be
very
mindful
of
bringing
people
along
so
that
you
have
the
least
amount
of
resistance
possible
and
a
lot
of
that
you're
going
to
get
with
ambiguity.
E
And
this
is
chock-full
of
ambiguity,
and
I
realize
that's
where
you
have
to
start.
I
mean
you
can't
start
with
specifics.
You'll
never
get
anything
done,
but
but
I
do
think
when
you're
talking
about
fairly
targeted,
pre-existing
interests,
because
the
interests
of
the
people
who
will
be
able
to
develop
are
not
specific
at
this
point
right.
E
This
is
a
future
need
a
future
want
a
future
profit
margin,
but
the
people
that
you
are
rezoning
already
have
skin
in
the
game
and
they're
stuck
with
whatever
we
come
up
with,
and
I
think
I
think
those
people
have
earned
the
right
to
have
a
certain
amount
as
many
knowns
as
we
can
provide
them,
and
that
will
grease
the
skids
for
progress
as
it
were.
Anyway.
That's
my
soapbox,
I'm
gonna,
get
off
of
it
now.
H
It's
just
a
piggyback
off
walter's
comment,
which
I
think
something
that
we've
talked
about
kind
of
ambiguously
is,
is
what
the
actual
like
process
of
redevelopment
and
the
you
know
the
property
disposition
and
everything
that
has
to
happen
to
actually
redevelop
these
parcels,
and
you
know
it's
something
that
I've
worked
a
lot
in
contexts
that
are
far
more
blighted
and
so
you're
working
off
properties
that
are
on
city
rolls.
What
we
have
is
really
different.
H
You
know
private
ownership
in
most
of
the
gateway
area,
so
it's
going
to
look
different
for
us,
and
my
understanding
of
the
plan
is
that
it's
mostly
you
know,
incentives.
It's
not
directives
to
redevelop
right,
and
so
just
you
know,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
worry
about
change.
There's
also
risk
that
nothing
will
happen
fast
enough.
H
So
I
think
it
may
be
some
clarity
either
that
we
can
just
have
a
little
session
hearing
committee
or
in
some
other
format
about
what
that
could
look
like.
As
you
know,
developers
come
forward
with
plans.
You
know
to
get
a
little
more
clarity
on
that
might
also
swage
some
of
the
fears
that
the
private
owners
have
in
that
space.
B
Yeah,
so
that's
actually
something
I
can.
I
can
talk
to
a
little
bit
and
it's
going
to
be
much,
I
think
more
clear
in
the
form
based
code,
but
the
proposal
right
now
is
at
least
the
understanding
that
I
have
is.
Obviously
some
of
the
smaller
projects
will
be
able
to
go
through
that
ministerial
review,
but
even
the
larger
projects.
Those
would
still
happen
at
an
actual
hearing
where
decisions
are
being
made
and
people
can
voice
their.
You
know,
concerns
and
that
that
type
of
thing,
so
those
things
would
still
have
that
opportunity.
B
There
is
a
path
forward
for
that,
even
with
a
form
based
code,
but
I
think
it
would
be
really
really
important
for
you
guys
before
we
have
our
next
meeting
to
listen
to
ben's
youtube
or
to
watch
ben's
youtube.
I
don't
see
it
up
on
our
youtube
page
yet,
but
I
will
make
sure
that
it
gets
up
there
beforehand
so
I'll.
Send
you
guys
the
link
to
it,
because
I
really
think
it'd
be
important
for
you
guys
to
to
watch
that
before
we
meet.
B
I
think
that
that
will
help
with
some
of
these
questions
and
kind
of
discuss
some
different
different
pathways
for
projects
and
and
how
those
could
look
in
the
form
based
code.
B
I
think
a
lot
of-
and
I've
heard
this
there's
been
a
lot
of
talk
about
this,
that
the
gateway
plan
came
forward,
but
the
form
based
code
did
not
yet,
and
so
people
were
like
a
lot
of
the
questions
that
probably
would
be
answered
with
a
lot
more
detail
would
have
come
out
in
the
form-based
code,
and
so,
if
you
had
both
of
those
to
look
at,
we
might
not
be
having
this
anxiety
in
some
ways,
but
that's
not
how
it
worked.
E
I
mean
it
wasn't
kind
of
brutal,
it
was
bloodshed
and,
and
it
was
not
fun
and
there
were
a
lot
of
people
fighting
very
hard
for
their
very
specific
interests
and
I'm
really
curious
where
the
board
of
realtors
and
all
the
other
folks
that
you
know
are
actually
in
the
business
of
trading
properties
are
on
this
whole
thing,
because
they're
either
standing
there
waiting
with
baited
breath
for
the
opportunity
to
just
bounce
or
they're
pushing
back
but
they're,
not
neutral,
and
so
I'm
very
curious
as
to
what
the
prevailing
winds
are,
and
I
think,
if
we
haven't
heard
from
those
folks,
we
certainly
want
to,
because
if
there
isn't
land
speculation
happening
already,
it
certainly
will
very
quickly
if
people
believe
that
this
is
going
to
lower
the
barrier
development
there's
no
way
there
won't
be.
E
So
I'm
very
curious
about
you
know
just
how
the
bigger
the
larger
dynamics
of
the
real
money.
You
know,
because
you
talk
about
5
million
bucks
being
a
lot
of
money,
the
city,
it
ain't,
nothing
to
a
developer,
nothing!
Nothing!
E
You
know
I
hear
lots
of
people
write,
20
million
dollar
check
tomorrow,
so
you
know
you
you,
you
do
have
some
pretty
big
wins
and
prevailing
forces
that
can
change
the
game
very
quickly
and
they
just
can
so
I
I
want
to
be
very
mindful
of
what
what
what
what's
in
the
bottle
when
we're
rubbing
it,
so
they
and
that's
not
fear-based.
I
actually,
I
think
that's
that's
welcome!
That's
what
you
want.
That's
what
we
need.
E
We
need
somebody
to
come
in
and
write
a
big
check
and
do
something
like
windsor
town
green.
If
that's
what
we
want,
but
if
it's
not,
you
better
make
damn
sure
that
that's
not
what
you're
building
into
it.
B
Yeah,
I
think
the
other
thing
that
was
in
jane's
in
jane's
letter,
which,
if
you
guys,
if
serge,
if
you
want
to
I'd,
be
happy
to
pull
it
up,
and
we
could
look
at
her.
You
guys
could
read
it,
but
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
she
talked
about,
which
is
in
the
meeting
or
in
that
was
part
of
ben's
webinar,
really
talked
about
some
of
the
things
that
the
state
is
doing,
which
is
taking
away
a
lot
of
the
local
control
over.
B
Especially
affordable
housing
projects
and
those
are
things
that
we
really
need
to
pay
attention
to
when
we're
focused
on
this
type
of
work
and
part
of
the
reason
that
we're
doing
this
type
of
work
is
so
that
we
pre-plan
some
of
the
things
that
we
know
we
want,
so
that
it's
in
there
and
there's
a
path
forward.
But
it's
already
it's
already
laid
out.
B
Instead
of
having
to
just
get
forced,
basically
having
our
review
authority
taken
away
in
a
lot
of
cases
and
and
that's
getting
more
and
more,
it's
not
getting
less
and
less
there's
a
few
more
bills.
But
he
talks
a
lot
about
that
and
I
I'm
not
an
expert
on
all
of
it.
There
is
out
there
there's
a
lot
out
there,
but
that's
what
I
think
would
be
helpful
too,
to
kind
of
get
the
understanding
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
and
what
we're
dealing
with
from
a
state
level
too.
D
B
B
That
is
something
that
we've
we've
reached
out
to
and
a
lot
of
work
was
done
specific
to
that
in
the
infill
plan
as
well,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
support
for
this
type
of
so
I
wouldn't
say
that
I
think,
as
far
as
I've
heard
it's
a
positive
for
landowners
in
the
area
that
it
would
be
helpful
because
it
really
gives
them
a
lot
more
options
than
they
have
available
to
them.
Right
now,.
E
E
B
B
B
You
won't
see
that
in
the
policies.
Do
you
see
what
I'm
saying
but
you'll
see
that
in
the
form
base
code,
when
it
comes
out
and
you'll
get
more
information
from
ben
there?
So
there's
not
really
a
policy
here
to
there's
not
really
a
policy
here
that
would
address
this,
but
same
thing
here,
we'd
like
to
hear
more
from
renters
and
populations
that
will
suffer
if
we
don't
address
the
housing
need.
That
was
just
something
that
came
up
in
our
in
our
conversation.
So
there's
not
really
a
policy.
These
are
just
things.
B
So
what
I
would
suggest-
and
this
this
is
what
I
would
just
this
is
my
suggestion-
is
looking
at
the
land
like
starting
with
policy
chapter,
one
which
is
land
use
and
going
through
the
different
policies
and
reviewing
them.
And
then,
if
you
find
one,
that's
related,
because
you
will,
I
mean,
there's
a
whole,
a
whole
bunch
of
different
policies
as
you
go
through,
if
you're
not
finding
one.
B
That's
specific
to
this,
then
let's
go
ahead
and
add
that
under
housing
for
instance
like
is
there
not
a
policy
that
really
promotes
this,
or
that
doesn't
address
this?
Let's
make
sure
that
there's
one
in
there
and
so
then
what
your
recommendation
would
be
is
instead
of
a
proposed
modification
to
an
existing
policy.
B
H
Yeah,
just
one
one
other
bullet
point
we
might
consider
and-
and
I
know
there'll
be
certainly
opportunities
to
address
it
in
the
language
and
the
policies
in
the
plan
itself,
but
is
the
treatment
of
light
industrial
in
the
zone.
I
know
that
that's
been
kind
of
a
recurrent
theme
and
and
what
kind,
what
kinds
of
businesses
you
know
you
also
attach
that
bit
about
employment,
so
kind
of
defining
that
a
little
more.
We
might
want
to
add
that
to
our
list
of
things.
H
B
But
so
that's
as
far
as
and
I
can
send
you
guys
this
template
so
that
you
have
it
to
kind
of
go
through
when
you
start
to
go
through
it
on
when
you
start
to
go
through
each
chapter
and
and
then
you
know,
leave
space
for
you
know
what
I'll
do.
Okay,
here's!
What
I'll
do
I'll
create
something
similar
to
this?
B
That
goes
through
each
of
the
chapters
that
you
guys
can
go
through
and
if
there's
not
a
proposed
modification,
you
can
just
leave
it
blank
if
there's
something
that
you
think
should
be
modified
in
each
of
these
then
go
ahead
and
input
it
here
and
if
there's
something
new
I'll
leave
a
section.
So
after
each
category,
so
after
each
policy
chapter
I'll
leave
a
category
so
that
you
can
put
in
a
new
implementation
major
if
you
feel
like
there's
something
new
that
should
be
included
and
you're
strong.
B
B
B
This
will
be
helpful
for
the
other
committees
too.
Actually
so
it'll
just
give
me
a
lot
to
do
tomorrow,
I'll
try
and
get
it
to
you
as
soon
as
possible,
though,
because
I
know
you
guys
are
going
to
want
to
start
working
on
it
before
we
meet
again
and
we're
going
to
try
and
meet
you
guys
set
on
the
21st.
H
I
I
just
have
to,
through
the
you
know,
a
meeting
invite
for
our
special
session,
the
template,
which
I
think
will
be
save
us
a
lot
of
time,
because
we
won't
be
doing
that
much
apples
and
oranges
work
when
we
actually
meet
trying
to
you
know.
B
I
H
Edition
I'll
also
try
to
send
send
like
my
template
to
you
jen
in
advance.
Okay,.
B
B
That
will
be
good,
I
think
that'll,
be.
I
think,
that'll
be
really
helpful
for
you
guys
and
also
for
just
for
us.
Having
that
template
that
we
can
use
with
each
of
the
committees
will
be
really
will
be
great.
I
don't
know
that
each
committee
is
going
to
want
to.
You
know,
there's
going
to
be
certain
areas
where
you
guys
might
not.
I
really
have
a
lot
of
input
into
and
that's
fine,
you
know
just
skip
through
those.
If
it's
something
that
it's
like.
Okay,
I
don't
really.
B
This
all
seems
okay
and
I'm
not
really
wanting
to
focus
on
it.
I
just
gave
you
guys
the
employment
section,
because
it's
the
most
related
to
economic
development,
but,
like
we've
talked
about
before
housing
is
related
to
economic
development.
Transportation
is
related
to
economic
development.
You
guys
touch
on
a
lot
of
different
areas.
B
I
mean
I
debated
putting
in
the
whole
arts
and
culture
policy
chapter
two,
because
I
really
felt
like
there
was
a
lot
there
that
was
related
to
economic
development
that
you
guys
could
really
weigh
in
on
as
well,
and
so
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
that
touches
there
that
you
guys
can
can
dig
into
if
you
just
give
it
some
time
and
everybody
feels
like
the
two
week
is
enough
time
to
to
come
back
with
some
info,
and
then
you
don't
have
to
be
finalizing
it
next
week,
either
we
can
meet
on
the
21st,
hopefully
and
then
meet
again
on
august,
2nd
to
finalize
the
recommendations.
B
A
E
Well,
I
I'm
sorry
I'll
raise
my
hand
terrible
with
that
stuff.
B
E
E
E
Well,
and
and
citizens
too,
because
yeah
they
because
you
know
not-
I
mean
low
incomes-
are
pretty
low
bar.
I
mean
I
don't
know
how
the
hell
you
survive
in
california,
in
the
poverty
line,
which.
E
B
And
I
want
to
be
really
specific
about
facilitate
the
relocation
of
non-conforming
uses
that
are
incompatible
with
the
vision,
the
plan
vision.
So
that
was
one
thing
that
came
up
that
we
talked
about
just
remembering
that
during
our
during
our
business,
the
business
presentation,
we
talked
about
non-conforming
and
really
there
is
a
very
limited
number
of
non-conforming
businesses
that
we're
talking
about.
B
So
non-conforming
is,
and
I'm
sure
I'll
get
an
email
from
someone
if
I
screw
this
up,
but
is,
is
the
lumber
mills
and
the
lumber
mill
or
mills
question
mark
and
the
and
the
store
many
storage
units,
so
that
is
what's
considered
non-conforming
yeah.
So
if
you're
one
of
those
businesses,
we
want
you
to
stay
in
arcata
and
we
would
facilitate
that
in
some
way,
shape
or
form
with
a
business
assistance
loan
with
looking
and
finding
and
connecting
you
with
additional
resources,
whatever
the
case
may
be,
so
it's
those
are
non-conforming
uses.
B
So
just
to
be
clear
on
that
and
then
the
other
thing
I
really
want
to
make
sure
everybody
is
100
clear
on
which
I
feel
like
is
just
important
to
note.
Is
that
a
lot
of
what
we're
looking
for
here
is
some
portion
of
affordability
in
these
projects
and
so
affordable
housing
that
is
and
if
you
use
any
which,
by
the
way,
all
of
affordable
housing
basically
is
subsidized
by
either
state
or
federal
funding.
B
And
if
you
do
use
state
or
federal
funding
for
an
affordable
housing
project,
you
are
required
to
do
a
relocation
plan
and
that
relocation
plan
does
include
financial
assistance
for
relocating
a
business
or
a
home,
individual
family
or
person
that
gets
displaced
due
to
the
development.
So
just
to
be
very,
very
clear.
That's
something
that
you
have
to
do
so,
for
instance,
on
the
sorel
place
project.
B
They
had
to
give
us
a
give
us
in
the
state
and
everybody
else
who
funded
that
project
a
relocation
plan
for
the
for
the
romans
kitchen
for
the
business
that
was
located
on
that
unit.
Even
though
it
was
a
food
truck,
they
still
had
to
get
relocation
and
there
were,
I
believe,
two
houses
that
were
on
that
site
as
well
and
same
thing:
relocations
required
so
that
you
know.
I
know
that
that
doesn't
it
can
be
a
different.
B
It's
not
really
clear
because
you
don't
have
the
relocation
plan
in
front
of
you
for
every
single
project.
That's
going
to
go
forward,
but
it
has
to
be
approved
by
hcd
or
whoever
the
entity
is,
and
it
has
there's
all
kinds
of
strict
guidelines
for
how
those
work
so
yeah.
E
But
okay,
so
so
I
want
to
wheel
this
back
because
the
last
time
we
met
there
was
some
discussion
about
the
businesses
that
are
currently
renting,
and
you
know
it's.
When
I
look
at
this
stuff,
I
mean
I've
dealt
with
a
lot
of
development.
Highest
and
best
use
is
slang,
for
we
can
make
more
money
if
we
kick
you
out
and
that
that
transition
to
a
higher
and
better
use
is
functionally
what
this
plan
foresees.
That's
what
you
want
right,
you!
E
You
want
basically
people
to
come
in
and
develop
this
property
so
that
they
can
have
a
higher
income
source,
but
there's
stuff
in
those
footprints
already
that
may
not
fit
this
incredibly
limited
just
thing
of
low
income.
People
or
you
know
incompatible
businesses,
but
you
could
very
easily
find
yourself.
You
know
in
a
situation
where
you
have
businesses
that
have
you
know
negative
externalities.
E
You
know
these.
These
are
things
that
are
going
to
have
very
real
impacts
on
the
on
the
neighbors
when
these
developments
go
in
and
very
real
impacts
on
businesses
that
you
know
may
or
may
not
get
forced
out,
and
I
do
think
that
there
should
be.
You
know,
that's
the
unknown
right.
Every
business,
everybody
who's
got
their
life.
E
Savings
tied
into
their
business
does
not
want
radical
change
and
you
need
to
give
them
some
sort
of
a
resource
if
they
don't
fit
into
the
tiny
little
box
of
technically
impoverished,
or
you
know
an
un,
the
non-conforming
business,
and
I
I
that's
that's
what
I'm
looking
for.
Is
you
know?
How
do
you?
E
How
do
you
transition
the
people
who
have
helped
build
the
city
and
make
them
a
part
of
the
process
rather
than
creating
an
adversarial
situation
where
they're
being
you
know,
screwed
down
on
it,
because
there
will
be
people
to
get
hurt
in
this?
There's
no
universe
in
what
they're,
whenever
they're
on.
H
Sorry
thanks:
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
like
portraying
the
plan
fairly
and
not
you
know,
stoking
fear
that
doesn't
need
to
be
stoked,
because
this
is
a
public
meeting
and
just
that
developing
affordable
housing.
It's
like
there's
a
reason.
It's
only
subsidized
federally
or
by
the
state
right.
It's
not
a
it's,
not
a
money
grab
and,
and
the
plan
isn't
about
you
know,
creating
a
cash
cow
of
arcata.
It's
about
addressing
a
really,
really
crucial
housing
shortage
that
is
going
to
exacerbate
our
workforce.
H
Is
that
it's
about
building
housing
so
that
we
can
have
a
community
that
works
for
everyone,
not
just
the
private
landowners
and
what
they're
getting
out
of
it
is
effectively
an
overnight
transfer
of
property
value
from
the
city
when
you
change
the
code
right,
so
I
just
wanted
to
add
those
caveats
to
make
sure
we're
not,
of
course,
there's
always
risk
with
change,
but
that
we're
portraying
our
goals
here
accurately.
B
Yeah
housing
is
definitely
the
I
mean,
that's
the
reason
this
came
from
the
housing
element.
This
came
from
doc,
you
know
from
our
original
general
plan.
This
is
something
that
needs
you
know.
We
have
said
we
would
do
and
and
really
the
goal
of
it
is
yes
housing
for
all
different
types
and
that's
the
goal.
If
you
read
through
the
whole
document,
I.
E
Wasn't
trying
to
stoke
fears
just
for
the
record
more
just
to
plan,
for
you
know
the
the
unintentional
harm,
because
that's
the
nature
of
these
things.
You
know
people
you,
you
change
things
from
a
to
b
and
the
people
who
were
in
love
with
a
or
not
may
not
be
in
love
with
b,
and
I
just
think
that
the
city
should
have
a
more
broad-based
concept
of
what
it
is
to
provide
assistance
to
the
citizenry.
That's
that
is
impacted
negatively
or
possibly,
and
that's
my
concern
that
functionally
it's
not
just
you
know.
E
Sorry,
you
don't
fit
the
model
so
you're
on
your
own,
and
that's
that's
my
that's
my
my
concern.
B
Anybody
else
want
to
weigh
on
on
any
of
this
or
add
anything
up
here
or
and
I'll
leave
this
just
when
I
send
this
over
I'll.
Go
ahead.
Just
leave
all
of
this
here
so
that
you
can
kind
of
have
that
in
the
background
and
then
I'll
just
edit
this,
so
that
each
policy,
it's
clear
that
this
is
you
know,
policy,
one
policy,
this
one's
four
but
it'll
it'll
be
clear,
so
it
you'll
see
kind
of
what
you're
looking
at
more
from
each
individual
policy
level
when
I
send
it
over.
B
B
Yeah,
that's
kind
of
that's.
What
I
think
I
would
recommend
is
that
we
bring
everybody,
bring
their
notes
to
the
next
meeting,
just
be
really
prepared
to
dig
into
those
notes.
I'm
assuming
that
you
guys
will
probably
have
some
that
are
very,
very
much
compatible
and
I
would
focus
on
the
policies
and
then
any
additional
policies
that
you
find
that
you
think
are
missing.
That
need
to
be
added
just
so
that
we're
giving
really
good
concrete
feedback.
I
K
Hey
jen,
hey
committee
members,
I'm
scott
mcbain,
I'm
a
business
owner
on
the
edge
of
the
gateway
area.
We
have
17
employees
here
and
almost
all
of
our
revenue
comes
from
out
of
the
area,
so
I
fall
into
one
of
those
classes
of
I'd.
Call
it
a
stem
business
because
we
are
partially
dependent
on
hsu,
but
certainly
the
technical
expertise
that
comes
out
of
hsu
and
the
work
that
we
do.
K
We
bring
in
about
three
million
dollars
into
the
local
economy
through
our
work
again
most
of
it's
coming
from
out
of
the
area,
so
we're
kind
of
I
don't
know
I
kind
of
consider
our
business
a
good
poster
child.
I
would
think
for
the
kinds
of
businesses
that
we
would
like
to
encourage
into
the
city
into
the
future,
because
we
hire
a
lot
of
local
people
and
bring
in
money
and
from
outside
the
area.
K
I
wanted
to.
First
of
all,
just
remind
you
of
the
comments
that
I
made
on
march
3rd.
I
think
those
are
still
applicable
so
maybe
revisit
those
in
your
deliberations
for
recommendations.
I
do
want
to
kind
of
tie
into
a
couple
of
things
that
that
has
been
discussed.
One
is
that
we
kind
of
have
a
guinea
pig
with
the
sorel
project
for
what
the
gateway
plan
could
entail,
but
on
a
much
larger
scale.
K
One
of
the
things
that
I've
mentioned
to
jen
in
the
past
is
that
for
me,
and
a
lot
of
other
people's
there's
kind
of
a
gap
in
trust
with
the
city
on
how
this
is
going
to
be
implemented.
Given
that
there's
three
staff
members
to
do
this-
and
this
is
a
huge
upper
amp
from
what's
been
done
to
date
and
again,
the
sorel
project
is,
is
a
guinea
pig
that
we
should
be
learning
from
today.
Nobody
from
the
city
has
actually
talked
to
us
and
said:
hey.
K
You
guys
had
some
concerns
about
how
this
project
is
going
to
affect
the
neighborhood.
When
this
was
proposed
during
the
whopping
three
week
process
that
this
was
jammed
through
the
city,
it
would
really
help
on
the
trust
issue
if
we
could
actually
learn
from
the
sorel
project
from
the
neighborhood
and
not
to
complain.
K
But
I
just
don't
get
the
feeling
that
the
city
cares
about
this,
and
this
is
kind
of
the
emotional
response
given
how
that
project
was
done.
So
maybe
just
jen
for
you
to
take
notes
that
that
might
be
helpful
for
the
city
to
do
and
help
rebuild
some
of
the
trust
that
wasn't
what
I
specifically
wanted
to
talk
about.
K
But,
as
you
mentioned
it,
it
still
has
some
salt
in
my
wounds
over
that
whole
process,
and
this
is
going
to
be
the
sorel
project
on
steroids,
and
so
that's
where
my
fear
comes
from,
because
I've
already
gone
through
this
once
before
on
a
very
small
scale.
K
K
The
draft
gateway
plan
rightfully
emphasizes
housing
and
redevelopment
that
focuses
on
housing,
but
I
think
that
it
needs
better
balance
and
I
think
that's
what
we're
all
trying
to
achieve
here
is
a
good
balance
so
that
it's
you
know
not
at
one
at
the
expense
of
everything
else
and
that's
a
hard
thing
to
do,
and
I
sympathize
with
you
all,
but
it's
really
a
combination
from
a
economic
development
perspective,
a
combination
of
protection
of
existing
businesses
and
development
of
new
businesses
that
are
beyond
retail
coffee
shop
types
of
things
in
the
bottom
of
eight-story
residential
buildings.
K
So,
as
I've
said
many
times
for
council,
I'm
very
supportive
of
a
gateway
plan.
But
I
want
I'd
like
to
see
a
quality
gateway
plan.
That's
well
thought
out
that
we
learn
from
what
we've
already
done
and
we
really
bring
quality
into
this.
So
we
have
a
quality
plan,
not
just
a
plan
and
that's
going
to
take
work
to
do
that
and
some
some
innovative
creative
thinkers
and
how
to
do
that
specifically
towards
your
potential
recommendations
to
better
emphasize
businesses
and
job
protection
and
development
and
the
associated
healthy
community.
That
comes
with
it.
K
There's
some
really
good
information
and
text
in
in
the
chapter,
the
guiding
principles.
Four,
that
you
should
probably
look
and
see.
I
mean
those
are
kind
of
aspirational
things.
But
then,
when
you
go
to
the
employment
chapter,
where
you
get
to
the
meat,
the
things
that
will
actually
be
enforceable,
it's
pretty
anemic
and
underwhelming.
K
That
includes
not
just
employment
but
also
jobs
and
businesses
and
those
sorts
of
things
to
kind
of
refocus,
on
a
bigger
picture
than
just
employment
and
the
three
again
fairly
anemic
policies
that
are
in
there
right
now
that
encourage
a
subcommittee
to
be
formed
by
the
economic
development
committee
to
really
kind
of
drill
down
in
there
and
as
jen
mentioned.
K
Some
of
that
may
be
rephrasing,
but
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
new
policies
that
could
be
developed
again,
there's
some
good
stuff
in
the
guiding
principle
four
to
mine
from,
but
I
think
some
brainstorming
on
that
would
be
really
helpful
and
I
have
a
couple
of
examples,
but
we
talk.
There's
talking
there
about
opportunity
zones
for,
for
certainly
residential
redevelopment.
We
should
be
thinking
about
those
opportunity
zones
for
new
business
development
as
well.
That's
encouraged
the
same
level
as
housing.
K
K
If
a
subcommittee
could
really
dive
into
this
in
more
detail
to
take
advantage
of
those
opportunities,
and
it
could
be
something
like
looking
at
a
business,
you
know
a
opportunity
zone
that
focuses
on
a
business
park
concept
like
on
erickson
way
that
doesn't
necessarily
need
to
have
seven
stories
of
residences
on.
On
top
of
it.
Another
thing
that
was
critical
for
our
business
is:
we
grew
up
in
the
creamery
district
and
then
the
little
one
of
the
little
buildings
out
on
west
end
road
as
incubator
businesses.
K
We
wouldn't
be
here
without
the
creamery
building
and
that
opportunity
as
a
business
incubator.
So
again
that
isn't
a
term.
That's
even
mentioned
in
the
draft
gateway
plan.
That's
was
critical
for
us
and
other
new
businesses
and
then
the
last
comment
again.
This
kind
of
builds
on
some
of
the
things
that
walt
talked
about
is.
K
We
still
don't
really
know
very
well
in
a
quantitative
way
what
we
would
like
the
gateway
area
to
be
when
it
grows
up,
based
on
a
quantitative
community
survey
to
inform
the
city,
and
at
the
last
city
council
meeting,
I
recommended
that
the
city
fund
a
more
quantitative
survey,
specifically
that
focuses
on
the
gateway
area,
to
ask
some
of
these
key
specific
questions
so
that
we're
all
better
informed
on
what
the
city
wants.
K
C
J
Yes,
yep,
okay,
great
thanks,
so
yeah
it's
it's
kind
of
hard
to
go
up
after
scott,
because
he's
he
just
kind
of
nails,
a
lot
of
the
things
some
of
my
concerns
as
well
and
and
so
anyways.
J
I
will
go
ahead
and
maybe
fumble
through
and
try
not
to
to
restate
some
of
the
same
things
but
I'll
start
with
the
plan
west
proposal
for
the
gateway
project,
in
that
they
had
scheduled
in
that
their
task
chart
in
the
proposal
it
in
that
it
lists
both
the
draft
gateway
planned
and
the
draft
for
the
forum
base
codes
were
supposedly
supposed
to
be
released
together.
J
It
would
have
alleviated
a
lot
of
this
concern
and
vagueness,
and
you
know
the
committees
are
being
asked
to
give
their
recommendations,
and
I
think
they
you
would,
as
the
economic
development
committee
and
the
other
committees
and
the
planning
commission
and
the
city
council,
could
probably
really
get
down
to
more
specific
recommendations
and
really,
if,
if
the
forum
based
codes
were
there
to
clarify
a
lot
of
the
questions
that
we've
all
had
the
community
and
the
the
committees
and
the
commission.
J
So
I'm
hoping
that,
when
the
draft
for
the
form
basis
codes
is
actually
released
that
you,
your
committee,
as
well
as
the
other
committees,
will
have
the
opportunity
to
come
back
and
give
more
input
more
recommendations.
Based
on
what
was
released
in
the
forum
base.
The
draft
of
the
formation
just
I'm.
J
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
was
hoping
I
was
assuming
that
you
would
be
able
to.
I
was.
It
would
have
been
nice
if
they
were
released
before
I
think
it
were
to
leave
it
alleviated
a
lot
of
the
the
confusion.
I
know
that
the
draft
of
the
gateway
plan
is
very
vague
and
I
think
the
foreign
base
codes
is
what
really
clarifies
that
so
and
then
to
go
on,
hopefully
to
kind
of
jane
mentioned
ben
noble's
presentation
on
form
based
codes.
J
I
would
like
to
second
you
guys
listening
to
that,
because
it
was
very
informative,
answered
a
lot
of
my
questions
and
a
lot
of
other
people's
questions
and
then
hopefully,
you'd
be
able
to
ask
pertinent
questions
directly
to
ben
noble,
as
committee
members,
I'm
not
sure
how
that
works,
but
that
would
be
useful
if
you're
allowed
to
in
the
may
12th
economic
development
meeting.
I
know
walter
asked
for
clarification
between
the
light
industrial
and
light
manufacturing
when
it
comes
to
the
land
use
codes.
J
J
So
yeah
just
clarification
on
that
would
be
helpful
too,
and
I
really
support
rezoning,
adding
new
housing
with
the
rezoning
and
adding
that
housing
element,
but
also
keeping
all
existing
commercial
uses
that
fall
under
whether
it
be
the
light
industrial
or
the
light
manufacturing
of.
What's
already
here
existing
just
keeping
that
usage
going.
So
it
opens
keeps
open
the
door
for
future
future
businesses
to
come
in
that
fall
under
that
category.
J
I
liked
on
the
may
12th
your
may
12th
meeting.
I
know
amanda
brought
up
the
building
equity
in
housing
and
instead
and
incentives
for
home
ownership.
That's
a
concern
for
me
and
a
lot
of
other
people,
whether
that
be
through
community
land
trusts
or
condos
or
small
home
communities.
J
If
there's
some
language
that
really
emphasizes
that
a
little
bit
stronger
and
then
there's
a
kind
of
a
rough
quote
from
walter
about
shuffling
out
existing
to
make
room
for
the
new
and
so
yeah
gentrification
was
the
first
kind
of
gut
response
that
came
to
mind
when
I
first
read
the
draft
plan,
so
it'd
be
nice
to
kind
of
clarify
that
and-
and
then
also
you
know,
kind
of,
I
kind
of
keeping
housing
costs
for
you
know
residential
and
business
owners
and
future
home
costs
lower.
J
I
think
that
is
that's
kind
of
a
concern
of
any
way.
We
can
really
keep
that
in
play
and
really
strengthen.
That
would
be
great,
I'm
a
homeowner
and
I'm
kind
of
a
little
concerned
when
I
hear
that
the
impact
of
the
area
being
rezoned
will
increase
my
property
values
during
increased
property
values
overall
in
the
area.
J
I
think
this
is
what
will
increase
those
those
housing
costs
for
people
so
as
a
homeowner
and
a
property
owner,
you
know
I'm
against
kind
of
my
my
property
values
being
increased
just
for
the
sake
of
all
those
who
I
I
wish
you
know.
Can
I
wish
well
in
our
community
also
there's
a
concern
for
walter
brought
up
the
concern
for
the
existing
conforming
uses,
protecting
existing
conform
uses
from
the
new
residential
complaints
that
might
come
about
from
like
the
noise
and
activity.
J
So
I'd
like
to
kind
of
remind
you
of
that,
and
hopefully
those
you
know,
incorporate
some
of
those
insurances
and
the
language
as
well
and
so
anyways.
I
could
go
on
and
on,
but
these
are
just
some
of
my
my
concerns
with
this
plant
plan.
I
I
really
really
want
to
see
in
phil
here
I
really
acknowledge
the
lack
of
housing
that
arcadia
has
it's
getting
like
horribly
worse
with
each
year
or
each
month.
J
It
seems
so
any
way
that
we
can
bring
housing
in
would
be
great,
but
I
really
like
to
protect
the
the
jobs
in
our
industry
as
well,
because
I
think
that's
is
like
scott
says:
it's
should
be
an
equal
component
to
this.
So
thank
you
for
hearing
me
out
and
I'm
really
glad
that
you're
doing
this
a
special
session
come
on
coming
up
on
the
21st.
So
thank
you
thanks.
A
B
You
have
there's
actually
there's
actually
more
public
comment,
so
we're
not
we're
not
done
yet.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
want
to
limit
that
so
that
you
have
some
time
to
talk
at
the
end
of
this
you
might
want
to.
I
should
have
mentioned
that
before
you
can
time
it
if
you'd
like,
but
we're
at
6
30
now
so.
B
You
can
do
you
guys
can
set
those
time
frames.
We
obviously
have
not
done
that
right
now,
but
you
definitely
have
the
ability
to
do
that.
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
you
only
have
you
know
about
a
half
hour
left
and
if
you
want
to
talk
about
some
of
the
comments
that
came
up,
you
might
want
to
leave
yourself
some
time
to
do
so
so.
D
Go
ahead,
okay,
one
of
the
things
I
just
want
to
comment
right
off
the
back.
That
is,
that
is
unfair.
If
several
people
get
to
talk
for
five
minutes,
then
everybody
ought
to
get
to
talk
for
five
minutes.
I
understand
it's
nice
to
be
done
by
seven
o'clock,
but
on
the
other
hand,
you
need
to
hear
what
people
have
to
say.
H
D
I
don't
sit
well
for
two
hours:
either
the
focus
disappeared
and
my
dog
likes
to
go
for
a
walk.
Okay
to
be
quick.
I
think
you
and
I
think
it
would
be
desirable
jen
if
you
could
give
them
all
links
to
the
current
state
laws
that
are
affecting
us
and
what
may
be
coming
down
the
road,
because
those
laws
are
what
require
us
to
provide.
As
you
will
learn
from
ben
neville.
D
D
D
The
issue
about
ministerial
review
versus
maintaining
city
council
and
planning,
commission
review
and
public
input
is
totally,
as
I
understand
it,
based
on
residential
properties,
multi-family
properties,
large
residential
properties,
over
a
certain
minimum,
which
I
think
may
be
27
units,
I'm
not
sure
that
that's
a
little
unclear,
but
you
need
to
understand
what
these
issues
are
and
that's
why
it's
so
important
to
listen
to
ben
noble's
presentation
but
jen
if
you
could
get
them
links
to
the
pertinent
statutes.
That
would
be
extremely
helpful.
D
D
In
terms
of
we
don't
have
statistics,
we
did
opinion
surveys.
What
would
you
like
to
see
they're
kind
of
visionary
things,
but
there's
no
hard
data
there.
I
can't
say:
okay,
we
had
500
800
respondents
or
more
like
we
did
with
the
gate.
Closet
improvement
task
force
and
here
were
their
recommendations.
Here's
what
they
wanted.
We
could
categorize
and
we
could
put
data
on
it
and
we
could.
We
could
basically
say
this
is
what
the
community
wants,
and
these
are
the
priorities
from
the
community's
perspective.
D
So
I
think
it'd
be
very
important
somewhere
along
the
line
here
for
you
to
consider
conducting
a
survey
of
at
least
gateway
business
owners.
That
is
an
option
you
have.
You
could
do
it,
it's
not
hard
to
do,
and
you
could
do
that
yourselves
as
a
committee.
We
did
that
historically
over
with
valley
west,
and
you
could
do
it
again
if
you
so
trust.
So
I
thank
you
all
for
listening.
I
appreciate
everything
you're
doing
and
feel
free
to
contact
me.
D
F
Yeah-
it's
it's
always
grappling
with
for
me.
I
I
relearn
it
every
time
sometimes,
but
so
yeah
chris
richards
here
and
I'm
a
local
businessman,
resident
rga,
the
leader
or
involved
with
the
local
group.
That's
trying
to
help.
You
know,
make
things
better
with
with
the
with
the
draft
plan,
and
and
all
of
that
I
don't
have
a
lot
to
follow
up
with
on
what
everybody
else
said,
because
they
did
a
good
job.
F
I
just
want
to
really
emphasize
kudos
for
this
group
to
show
the
reflection
from
what
people
are
saying
and
showing
the
vision
that
you're,
you
know
stepping
up
and
gonna
going
to
commit
to
subcommittee
and
work
through
all
these
details,
and
I
I
really
feel
confident
with
this
group
that
good
things
are
going
to
come
out
of
out
of
this,
also
kudos
for
jen,
for
helping
set,
set
up
process
and
templates
to
to
help
enable
you
guys
to
make
make
it
a
little
bit
easier
for
you
that
that's
all
real,
really
wonderful,
jen
that
you're
that
you're
putting
that
together
a
couple
of
critical
things
back
to
the
engagement
report
and
all
the
data
for
what
we
really
want
as
a
community
and
where
we're
going.
F
I
I
agree
with
scott
and
jane
both
that
we
need
some
extra
survey,
work
done
and
maybe
looking
towards
cal
poly's.
That
could
maybe
help
out,
or
you
know,
there's
community
members
that
I'm
sure
would
be
willing
to
help
out.
But
I
think
that,
as
we
move
towards
you
guys
putting
in
recommendations
and
the
actual
form,
you
know
form-based
code
drafts
being
drawn
up,
that
that
information
would
really
be
important
to
have
alongside
that.
So
when
you
guys
reevaluate
the
form
based
code
drafts,
we
can
really
get
this
fine
tuned.
F
Well,
and
you
know
everybody
all
the
other
committees
are
doing
it
all.
So
it's
it's
quite
elaborate,
but
I
enjoy
what
I'm
seeing
tonight
with
this.
This
group,
as
always-
and
I've
only
been
in
this
for
a
short
while,
but
that
brings
confidence
to
me
that
the
process
is
is
working
well
so
anyway,
I
think
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
There's
probably
other
folks,
and
you
guys
need
extra
time
to
give
us
feedback
and
get
back
with
your
evening
life.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
listening.
L
Yes,
can
you
hear
me
yep?
We
can
hear
you
okay
great.
This
will
be
really
super
quick.
Just
thank
you
so
much
for
your
service
tonight,
everybody.
I
really
appreciate
it,
and
this
is
mostly
to
staff.
I
totally
understand
the
potential
that
we're
going
to
be
scheduling
a
lot
of
special
committee
meetings,
possibly
for
the
next
few
months,
going
through
this
recommendation
process,
and
I
just
want
to
just
remind
the
staff
that
overlapping
committee
meetings
does
become
a
barrier
for
engaging
the
public.
L
So
I
just
kind-
I
know
it's
sometimes
unavoidable,
but
I
was
hoping
that,
as
we
progress
through
this
over
the
summer
trying
to
ascertain
recommendations
from
different
committees,
please
consider
overlapping
committee
meetings
as
a
last
resort,
rather
than
a
viable
first
option.
So
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
toss
that
out
there
and
keep
that
in
the
back
your
mind,
if
you
could
so
thank
you
so
much
and
and
appreciate
everything.
B
Yeah,
I
don't
think
our.
I
don't
think
our
meeting
will
overlap.
I'm
going
to
double
check,
like
I
said,
with
with
hlc
with
dilo
and
make
sure
that
she's
going
to
be
able
to
get
in
her
time.
Usually
their
theirs
is
only
an
hour.
So
hopefully
it
won't,
but
thanks.
B
G
Yeah
yeah,
thank
you,
a
variety
of
things
and
I'll
try
to
be
quick
walt.
You
mentioned
functionality
and
deliverability
great
distinction
there.
I
use
the
word
projection
and
probability.
What's
the
likelihood
of
something
happening,
if
the
probability
of
something
happening
is
twenty
percent
or
thirty
percent
or
forty
percent,
then
it's
not
a
plan.
I
think
you
understand
what
I'm
saying
jen
you
mentioned
the
templates.
I
would
like
to
get
a
copy
of
that
template.
G
So
that's
okay,
jane's
comments
specifically,
is
on
her
charts,
e2,
a
notification
of
prospective
developers
and
occupants
about
what
may
happen
in
their
neighborhood,
it's
sort
of
like
a
right
to
farm
rule.
I
would
like
to
see
that
in
writing
as
part
of
the
plan,
that's
required
to
be
given
to
developers
or
future
occupants,
but
something
an
actual
codified
page.
G
Okay,
the
phrase
jobs.
G
G
So
what
we
have
here
is
similar
that
if,
if
a
developer
builds
an
apartment,
that's
next
to
an
existing
business,
the
people
in
that
the
chain
talks
about
this.
The
people
who
live
there
shouldn't
have
the
right
to
complain,
that's
just
the
nature
of
living
next
to
something
that
already
exists,
and
it
it
can't
just
be
a
promise.
It
has
to
be
something
actually
in
writing.
G
I
don't
know
what
the
laws
are
and
what
the
codes
would
be,
but
I
I
recommend
that
that's
not
just
the
something
that's
urged
but
or
encouraged,
but
that's
actually
in
in
writing.
Okay,
thank
you.
G
Yeah
thanks
walt
there's,
a
lot
says
about
jobs
will
not
be
lost
because
of
something
the
city
does
or
new
coding
they'll
be
lost
because
of
the
landlords,
the
landlords
and,
as
as
some
of
you
have
mentioned.
So
I
think
it's
like
it's
a
little
disingenuous
to
say
that
jobs
will
not
be
lost
or
businesses
will
not
be
moved.
I
regard
relocation
funds
as
the
absolute
last
resort.
G
We've
talked
about
moving
out
to
a
new
industrial
park
out
in
west
end
road.
Any
business,
that's
moved
from
the
gateway
area
out
to
the
this
new
industrial
park
will
be
one
fewer
business
that
could
otherwise
have
gone
into
that
industrial
park.
These
things
are,
you
know,
they're
kind
of
obvious
when
you
think
about
them
serge.
You
mentioned
the
opportunity
for
ownership
and
equity
investment
opportunities,
condos
and
the
like.
That
is
a
strong
feature
that
I
promote.
G
G
I
think
that
there's
no
teeth,
there's
no
existing
laws,
there's
no
basis
we're
looking
at
essentially
what's
a
myth
in
this
gateway
plan
that
I
like
to
do
something
about.
I
think
we'd
be
lucky
if
we
get
five
percent
in
this
area.
What
I
propose
is
we
have
to
do
something-
that's
extremely
bold
and
actually
make
new
law
here
in
arcata.
I
think
that,
as
I
said,
the
planning
commission,
I
think
arcade-
is
ready
for
it.
G
There
are
not
arcade,
I
think
the
the
state
of
california
is
ready
for
it,
and
I
think
we
could
actually
start
here
some
other
things.
There's
a
reference
to
table
5,
which
is
on
page
50
of
the
the
gateway
draft
plan
and
it's
a
percentage,
a
floor
area.
That's
not
residential.
I
encourage
you
to
look
it
up.
They
have
different
percentages
for
different
zones,
the
gateway
neighborhood
zone.
Is
they
a
lot
as
two
percent
non-residential?
B
Fred,
can
I
clarify
those:
are
targets
they're,
not
regulatory
requirements
for
individual
development
projects,
they're
a
broad
goal-
and
I
also
want
to
put
in
there
that
in
market
condition,
if
market
conditions
and
or
social
demand
change
significantly
in
the
lifetime
of
this
plan,
then
these
targets
may
not
continue
to
be
applicable.
So
I
just
really
really
want
everyone
to
be
clear
that
those
are
targets.
Those
are
goals.
Those
are
something
that
we
think
would
be
appropriate,
but
those
are
not
regulatory
requirements.
So
just
I
just
want
to
throw.
G
That
out,
thank
you
yeah,
oh
thank
you
jen,
regardless.
I
would
like
the
committee
to
look
at
those
figures
and
suggest
updates
to
those
figures,
even
as
targets.
Okay,
the
when
you
read
through
the
draft
or
as
you
read
through
the
draft.
I
I
suggest
also
looking
for
verbiage
that
you
find
either
offensive
or
incorrect
on
on
page
five
of
your
packet
is
the
jobs
and
entrepreneurial
activities.
The
first
line
says
the
majority
of
the
plan
area
is
currently
zoned
for
light
industrial
uses
and
provides
over
100
middle-income
job
opportunities.
G
I
would
suggest
that
line
just
be
struck
from
the
plan,
but
because
it's
there's
no
measurement
of
100
middle-income
job
opportunities
and
it's
so
light
industrial,
because
it
was
tried
to
make
sense
of
what
arcata
already
was.
It's
a
historical
zoning.
G
There's
a
about
106
houses
in
the
gateway
area,
the
gateway.
The
general
idea
is,
of
course,
residents
and
the
the
there's
a
lot
of
call
for
buildings
that
are
have
the
ground,
floors,
commercial
and
then
other
floors.
Above
that.
I
think
that,
while
that's
commendable
and
I'm
some
favorite
housing,
there
should
be
some
way
of
making
commercial
buildings.
Also
office
buildings,
and
and
not
not
by
through
a
used
permit,
but
by
design
and
at
the
same
time,
the
commercial
spaces.
G
If,
if
this
can
be
specified
in
the
form-based
code,
they
can't
all
be
just
for
coffee
shops
and
stores
and
things
they
should
be
designed
either
with
you
know:
commercial,
electricity
or
the
spaces.
I
don't
know
about
this.
I
just
know
that
we
don't
want
just
small
coffee
shop
type
things
we
want
to
have
opportunities
for
any
kind
of
a
business.
G
A
big
issue
with
me
is
parking
and
how
that
relates
to
economic
development
and
business.
The
gateway
plan
call
they
state
that
they'll
be
ample
on
street
parking
to
minimize
the
need
for
off
street
parking
and
parking
lots.
But
when
you
actually
look
at
the
the
procedures
or
the
or
what's
proposed,
some
of
the
parking
is
just
terrible,
the
worst
if,
for
instance,
past
the
creamery
on
on
8th
street
and
9th
street
number
and
again
these
are
these
are
targets.
G
This
hasn't
been
worked
out
because
we
haven't
seen
the
form
based
code
yet,
but
but
in
the
drawings
in
the
draft,
there's
a
block
where
there's
currently
23
spaces
in
the
new
plan,
there's
nine
spaces
on
k
street
between
eighth
and
ninth
there's
currently
16
spaces
in
the
in
the
draft
plan
in
the
drawings
it
shows
two
spaces,
so
I'm
I'm
not
trying
to
promote
car
use,
but
there
has
to
be
some
parking
for
businesses.
G
I
think
that's
about
it.
Thank
you
very
much.
If
you
want
any
of
this
in
writing,
I'd
be
happy
to
put
it,
you
can
contact
me
agenda's,
how
to
contact
me
or
through
my
our
creditone.com
website,
there's
a
contact
form
and
again
to
repeat
what
everyone
else
has
said.
I
really
appreciate
what
you're
doing
and
the
thoughtfulness
that
you're
putting
into
this,
because
between
you
and
housing.
This
is
the
core
of
the
whole
gateway
plan.
Thanks
very
much.
H
We
have
really
really
low
unemployment
in
our
region
right
now,
it's
like
2.9
last
quarter,
it's
far
below
what
our
nation
sees
and
but
what
we
do
have
is
a
really
disproportionately
high
number
of
people
who
work
full-time
and
don't
make
a
living
wage.
It's
like
nine
percent
higher
than
the
rest
of
the
nation,
the
numbers
I've
seen
in
these
rumble
county,
and
so
this
concept
of
providing
wage
upgrading
opportunities
beyond
the
chance
to
be
a
barista
right
and
those
that
attract
those
growth
sectors
that
that
pay
higher
wages.
H
It's
so
well
taken
and
it'll
definitely
be
something
that's
on
my
mind
and,
along
with
the
equity
building
opportunities,
which
is
an
issue
that's
so
dear
to
my
heart.
So
thank
you
for
highlighting
those
tonight,
and
I
just
one
little
thing
is
that
I
did
actually
get
a
survey
that
I
think
the
city
had
done
about
the
vision
for
the
gateway,
but
I
didn't
ever
see
results
from
it.
H
So
I
I
don't
know,
maybe
jen
you
have
more
information
about
that,
but
certainly
something
we
can
explain
or
explore
more
in
the
future.
So
yeah
thanks.
Everyone.
B
Yeah,
I
think
that's
in
our
draft.
I
think
that
was
in
those
were
in
our
draft
engagement
plan,
which
I
can
send
out
to
you
guys
too
I'll
just
add
that
to
my
list
and
it
went
to
city
council
two,
maybe
two
meetings
ago,
so
yeah
I'll
send
it
over.
So
you
have
it.
So
it's
fresh
in
your
mind.
E
E
I
don't
know
to
what
extent
they've
been
looped
in
on
stuff
like
this,
but
the
ability
to
provide
to
look
for,
because
ross
is
great
at
finding
grant
money
to,
like
you
know,
create
things
out
of
nothing.
E
I
mean
the
ability
to
for
us
to
actually
explore
economic
development
as
a
fundamental
component
of
this,
because
you're
talking
about
redeveloping
a
chunk
of
the
city
for
specific
you
know,
rebuilding,
I
think,
has
a
lot
of
potential,
especially
amanda's.
Talking
about
you
know,
trying
to
create
better.
You
know
better
wages
with
the
data
center
going
in
here,
and
I
do
not
know
to
what
extent
we've
got
you
know.
E
That's
actually
going
to
improve
local
connectivity,
because
some
of
that
stuff's,
just
like
you,
know,
you're
on
the
freeway,
but
there's
no
off
ramps
from
they.
But
you
know
I
I
work
from
home.
Now
I
used
to
drive
eureka
every
day.
I
could
be
doing
my
job
from
anywhere
in
the
world
and
I
look
into
the
regular
trees.
I
love
it.
This
is
a
fantastic
place
to
live.
B
E
B
E
The
data
centers
here
because
of
the
fiber-
you
wouldn't
have
it
without
it,
so
at
least
yeah.
So
things
like
that,
actually,
you
know
not
just
being
business
being
a
passive
concern
or
you
know
the
threat
of
against
business,
but
actually
using
this.
As
an
incubator,
I
think,
has
a
lot
of
potential
and
I
think
you
know
actively
engaging
because,
as
as
mentioned
by
a
number
of
people,
business
feels
like
it's.
E
You
know
the
the
stepchild
with
this
whole
process
and
not
necessarily
considered
a
priority,
and
I
do
think
you
know
that
that's
not
doesn't
have
to
be
that
way.
It's
just
how
people
feel
and
oftentimes
how
people
feel
is
a
pretty
good
metric
of
how
the
process
is
rolling
and
I
think
jane
mentioned
the
survey
of
businesses.
I
think
that
fits
right
into
it.
I
think
that
the
e-2
rules
I
thought
that
was
appropriate
and
I'm
not
sure
about
a
legal
requirement
to
ensure
home
ownership.
E
I
don't
know
how
that
all
fits
together,
but
I
do
key
into
what
serge
was
saying
about.
You
know,
essentially
the
opportunity
for
cooperative
housing
like
you've
got
behind
valley
west.
I
know
that
was
a
long
ago
project
and
it
created
a
lot
of
drama
at
the
time.
E
So
I
don't
know
that
was
necessarily
smooth,
but
maybe
we've
learned
from
the
the
the
past
and
that
there
is
a
business
model
for
that
and
that's
another
thing
that
you
know
an
aedc
read
kind
of
thing
and
I'm
on
the
abc
board.
So
I
don't
want
to.
You
know
pretend
that
I'm
not,
but
I'm
just
mentioning
that
as
like
resources
because
they're
out
there
and
I
don't
care
who
does
it
it's
you
know
there
are.
There-
are
people
out
there
and
it's
a
win-win
so
yeah,
that's
all.
I
got.
B
And
it
sounds
like
I
just
got
an
email
from
layla
that
september.
The
september
meeting
will
work
for
her,
so
I'll
put
her
slated
for
the
september
meeting,
so
that'll
be
helpful
to
have
sbdc
come
and
talk
to
us
about
kind
of
what
they
offer
and
we
work
with
aedc
and
sbdc
all
the
time.
The
city
also
does
have
a
business
loan
program
and
a
micro
enterprise
loan
and
grant
program
that
we
run
that
we
have
funding
for.
E
Yeah
and
incorporating
that
into
this,
you
know
not
just
like
it's
out
there.
If
you
know
about
it,
but
like
actively
saying
part
of
this
program
is
to
facilitate
create.
You
know
to
to
do
that.
The
one
thing
I
didn't
mention
and
I'm
gonna
shut
up
is
parking.
That
is
not
a
small
issue.
You're
you're
moving
a
ton
of
people
in
you're
reducing
the
number
of
parking
spaces.
I
don't
know
how
you
know.
I
go
see
things
at
the
playhouse
all
the
time.
You
need
parking,
the
oyster
I
mean
people
have
to
park.
B
B
A
B
E
I
A
So
we'll
make
that
special,
meaning
we'll
do
our
homework
before
we'll
come
with
well
organized
notes
is
whatever
that
means
for
us.
Well,
do
you
have
your
hand
raised
again.
E
B
I'll
try
and
get
you
guys
that
template
by
friday.