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Batch 2 July 19 Transportation Safety Committee Meeting
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When
it
comes
time,
I'm
going
to
ask
a
question
then
so,
since
I
didn't
get,
I
did
wasn't
able
to
attend
the
last
meeting
and
I
actually
did
not
review
the
the
notes
and
the
minutes
from
that
meeting.
Should
I
abstain
from
passing
them
voting
for
them,
or
would
that
block
them
from
being
accepted?
If
we
don't
have
enough
people.
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F
F
D
Yeah,
that
would
be
you
thrive.
That
would
be
nice.
I
finally
learned
that
it's
it's
usually
buried
in
the
agenda
somewhere
and
then
sometimes
it'll
automatically.
If
you
have
google
calendar,
sometimes
it'll
automatically
put
it
there,
and
I
just
I
pasted
it
in
this
time
so
that
all
I'd
have
to
do
is
go
to
my
calendar
and
click
on
it
and
that
worked.
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G
Okay,
she
was,
I
think
we
need
to
change
our
sending
the
link.
We
send
a
counter
appointment
to
everybody,
but
for
some
reason
it's
not
going
to
the
calendar.
So
we
need
to
be
better
at
that
on
our
side.
So
it
looks
like
it
was
that
issue
so
wendy.
Thank
you
for
coming
and
joining
great
everybody
is
very
happy.
You
have
coram.
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Mishka,
yes,
susan,
yes,
all
right
the
minutes
pass
unanimously
and
next
we're
going
to
get
into
public
oral
and
written
communications.
Why
wait
a
minute,
I'm
looking
at
the
minutes?
Let
me
get
back
to
the
the
agenda
same
thing.
This
is
a
chance
for
people
to
address
the
committee
on
matters
not
on
the
agenda.
So
if
you
are
here
this
afternoon
to
speak
on
anything,
that's
on
our
agenda,
we'll
give
you
an
opportunity
later.
D
J
All
right,
thank
you,
patricia
is
turning
down
her
volume
just
to
make
it
easier
here,
yeah.
Just
a
quick
question
related
to
the
subject
of
time
allotted,
I
had
an
experience
recently
at
a
meeting
where
it
was.
It
was
actually
brought
down
to
90
seconds
and
would
just
like
to
confirm
that
we
would
at
least
have
two
minutes
for
our
world
communication
just
spent
on
the
time
we
spent
researching
and
the
things
we'd
like
to
say
and
hoping
that
we
you
can
make
that
a
point
this
evening.
D
With
that
jim,
you
know
we'll
give
you
three
minutes,
and
then
we
may
come
up
with
a
different
time.
Time
span
when
we
get
to
the
the
regular
agenda,
but
we'll
see
we're
going
to
play
that
a
little
bit
by
year,
so
yeah.
If
you
have
anything
to
say
why
don't
you
I
think
you're
going
to
be
our
timer.
Unless
that
was
just
a
question,
you
have
yeah.
J
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A
I
can
speak
to
that
real
quick,
okay
start
with
with
an
update
on
the
11th
street.
Speed
study.
Sorry.
So
last
time
we
talked
about,
it
was
just
kind
of
a
draft
version
and
so
we're
still
looking
into
some
more
information
on
speed
pumps
and
and
potentially
doing
a
speed
hump
where
there's
no
speed
hump
within
the
center
of
the
wheel
tracks
for
like
emergency
vehicles
and
also
looking
at
bulb
balls
at
the
intersection.
A
So
we're
we're
basically
we're
finalizing
that
report
and
we're
going
to
have
some
recommendations
in
there
likely
with
one
or
more
of
those
options.
So
not
not
too
much
of
an
update
other
than
to
say
that
we
are
considering
some
of
the
things
that
were
discussed
previously
and
we'll
be
finalizing.
That
report
here
soon.
D
Okay,
that's
good
anything
else
on
either
a
b
c
or
d
b.
I
guess
we
kept
it
on
just
because
there
were
some
items
regarding
the
committee
chair
study
session
that
we've
got
some
goals
we're
going
to
work
on
throughout
the
years.
I
think
we
kept
that
on,
but
I
don't
believe
we're
going
to
jump
into
those
in
any
nuts
and
bolts
way
today,
so
we'll
just,
I
would
recommend
we
just
keep
that
on
for
future
meetings
and
it'll.
Allow
us
to
address
that
and
local
road
safety
plan.
D
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A
Maybe
just
like
coning
off
certain
areas
that
might
be
used
for
planters
or
whatever,
or
putting
different,
cones
and
and
some
maybe
some
flagging
to
to
represent
angled
back
in
parking
and
stuff
like
that.
So
just
some
on
the
ground,
temporary
type
infrastructure,
just
to
kind
of
show
you
how
everything
would
or
could
potentially
work
and
then
just
kind
of
a
follow
up
on
both
of
those.
Just
as
a
heads
up.
We
are
updating
our
the
city's
website
to
have
links
to
both
of
those
projects
with
more
information
on
them
as
well.
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D
Okay,
let's
move
along,
I
think
that
takes
care
of
old
business
so
getting
to
new
business.
We
are
considering
the
gateway
plan,
update
the
transportation
and
the
circulation
sections
of
those.
So
we've
got
members
of
community
development
here
to
give
us
a
presentation,
and
let
me
just
briefly
before
I
introduce
them
and
let
them
take
the
floor
and
guide
us
through
how
you
know
how
maybe
we're
going
to
attack
this
tonight.
D
I've
scanned
quickly
over
other
areas.
I've
attempted
to
find
things
that
lead
my
catch.
My
eye
that
relate
more
closely
to
that
are
relevant
to
our
committee,
so
community
development
has
held
multiple
meetings
and
provided
opportunities
to
the
public.
They've
done
planning,
scene
planning.
Commission,
the
city
council
have
done
provided
opportunities
for
people
to
just
you
know,
walking
tours
and
things
like
that,
and
so
I
want
to
thank
them
for
the
time
that
they're
they're
taking
to
go
to
all
the
committees
and
and
do
this
and
seek
our
input.
D
There's
a
lot
of
jargon
and
planning
terminology
that
you
have
to
get
through
and
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
it
that
was
new
to
me
to
start
with,
and
I'm
some
of
it.
I
still
don't
understand.
So
I
may
ask
for
clarification
on
some
of
those
as
we
go
along
and
we
talk
about
form-based
code
and
I
mean
just
different
things
that
are
that
that's
the
world
of
the
planners
and
for
us
sometimes
it's
kind
of
new
to
us.
D
Yet,
if
they're
being
heard
or
where
this
is
going
to
go,
and
I
think
david
and
dilo
are
going
to
explain
to
us,
you
know
what
process
has
been
to
this
point
and
maybe
some
anticipated
timing
on
when
this
is
going
to
happen.
So
hopefully
you
know
we
can
take
the
time
to
go
through
the
material,
get
any
questions
answered,
offer
suggestions,
discuss,
perspectives
and
find
areas
of
agreement
or
even
disagreement,
but
try
to
move
the
process
forward
in
a
constructive
and
respectful
manner.
D
So
I
hope
we
can
make
some
headway
this
evening
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
how,
after
I
think
I
want
david
and
dilo
to
get
a
chance
to
to
give
their
presentation.
Then
we'll
talk
about
how
we're
going
to
handle
our
discussion
and
and
bring
in
the
public
on
that,
and
we
have
some
ideas
of
how
to
do
that.
But
with
that
david
ordilo,
whichever
one
of
you
are
going
to
go
first
I'd
like
to
introduce
you
thank
you
for
coming.
C
Yeah,
thank
you,
chair
ryan.
I
really
appreciate
that
high
level
introduction
and
just
a
couple
of
housekeeping
matters.
First
again,
I'm
david
lewan,
the
director
of
community
development.
I
believe
I've
met
all
of
you
before
but
mishka.
I
don't
think
I've
had
the
pleasure
so
so
nice
to
meet
you
yes,
nice
to
meet
you
yeah.
C
We
haven't
figured
out
exactly
why,
but
you
know
we
provided
a
staff
report
and
some
items
that
were
attached
to
that.
Only
one
of
the
items
that
was
attached
to
the
staff
report
actually
ended
up
in
your
packet,
and
I'm
just
gonna
have
to
assume
that
it's
some
mystery
of
minute
track.
The
software
that
handles
our
our
you
know
our
staff
reports
and
sort
of
the
the
varieties
between
you
know
planning,
commission
and
city
council.
So
I
do
apologize
for
that.
C
I
will
try
and
be
a
little
bit
more
in
depth
in
my
my
presentation
as
a
result
of
the
lack
of
those
additional
materials,
and
I
I
hope
that
you
know
we
can
still
continue
to
have
a
productive
conversation
but
understand
if
you
know
if
we
need
a
little
bit
more
time
to
digest
those
materials.
But
at
the
same
time
we
did
have
this
item
before
you,
as
chair
ryan,
mentioned
earlier
in
this
year,
and
so
we're
hoping
that
we
can
springboard
from
that
earlier
conversation.
C
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C
Lastly,
before
I
start,
I
wanted
to
mention
that
we
did
receive
a
couple
of
email
correspondences
that
I'm
aware
of
one
from
h,
cog,
making
formal
recommendations
from
that
organization
that
are
relevance
to
this
committee.
I
believe
that
communication
was
forwarded
on
to
you
and
that
will
be
included
in
the
record
and
included
in
our
public
engagement
document
and
then
one
also
from
public
member
fred
wiese,
who
submitted
an
email
that
was
submitted
also
to
the
planning
commission
that
had
some
recommendations
for
process.
B
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C
Revitalization
for
the
neighborhood,
that's
identified
in
the
document
that
spans
largely
the
industrial
zones
and
some
of
the
in
the
south
or
west
of
k
street
and
some
along
samoa
boulevard
again.
The
plan
is
online,
has
been
since
december
of
last
year
and
we
can
provide
you
the
the
link
to
that.
It
was
in
the
staff
member
or
the
staff
report
that
didn't
make
it
into
your
packet,
but
we'll
make
sure
that
you
have
that.
C
So
you
can
dig
into
the
detail
and
we'd
intended
to
include
the
sections
that
we
felt
like
were
relevant
to
you
as
a
committee,
along
with
a
tool
that
was
the
basically
policy
areas
that
we
thought
might
be
of
interest
to
you.
Now
we
did
mail
that
that
to
you
separately
and
I'll
come
back
to
that
in
just
a
moment,
so
you
do
have
that
at
least
so.
So
that's
that's.
C
The
purpose
of
this
meeting
is
to
provide
you
know
some
some
feedback
on
that
content,
that
policy
level
area
the
the
process
and
timeline.
I
just
want
to
orient
you
to
real
quick
again
the
attachment
that
you
did
receive
details
in
sort
of
a
outline
format
and
then
goes
into
a
little
bit
more
explanation
as
to
a
couple
of
the
specific
procedures
that
we're
working
through,
and
so
I
do
encourage
you
to
to
read
that
document
to
get
a
really
good
understanding
about
how
the
process
goes
from.
C
You
know
we
really
would
like
to
get
a
recommendation
from
this
committee
today.
If
we
could,
you
know,
have
some
recommendations
come
out
of
the
committee
today.
That
would
be
great.
At
the
same
time,
the
committee
may
feel,
like
you
need
to
take
additional
time.
You
want
to,
you
know,
form
subcommittees
you
want
to
have
you
know
you
know
follow-up
meetings,
special
meetings
or
take
this
up
at
some
point
in
the
future.
That's
certainly
to
your
discretion.
C
But
I
do
want
to
see
the
committee
act
timely.
If
you
sit
down-
and
you
say-
hey-
look
we're
going
to
take
the
next
two
years
to
look
over
this
document
really
take
our
time.
Picking
this
apart
and
you
know
and
then
make
a
recommendation.
I
can
almost
guarantee
that
you're
going
to
be
passed
over
decision
will
be
made
well
in
advance
of
two
years.
I
don't
have
a
specific
timeline.
I
can't
tell
you
when
that
decision
is
going
to
be
made,
but
at
this
point
we're
anticipating
sometime
in
early
2023.
C
C
This
is
sort
of
the
the
first
pass
as
we'll
call
it,
and
at
this
point
the
council
will
make
decisions
that
will
allow
us
to
make
amendments
to
the
document
final
amendments.
That
will
be
the
basis
for
that
environmental
review,
but
we
have
a
second
pass
process.
That's
allowed
as
well.
If
the
council,
you
know,
has
some
some
issues
they
want
to
send
back
to
certain
committees,
or
they
want
to
have
a
second
review
or
just
get
a
final
blessing
from
the
committee's
second
review
process.
C
So
I
guess
the
reason
why
I'm
sharing
this
is
because
I
anticipate
anytime
over
the
course
of
the
next
one
and
a
half
to
three
and
a
half
months,
you'll
be
included
within
that
first
pass.
If
you
will
and
then,
if
you
continue
your
deliberations
out
to
you
know
four
and
a
half
months,
you'll
still
be
able
to
include
concepts
into.
You
know
the
second
pass,
assuming
that
it
happens,
which
I
think
is
pretty
likely
so
so
the
next
piece
is
well
okay.
How
are
we
incorporating
these
changes?
C
So
each
of
the
committees
is
making
recommendations
on
these
policy
areas.
To
date,
not
a
whole
lot
of
them
have
overlapped,
but
I'm
starting
to
see
some
overlap.
I
think
some
of
the
some
of
the
recommendations
that
came
out
for
today
from
some
of
the
committee
members
overlapped
with
discussions
that
have
had
happened
before
and
so
we're
going
to
have
a
bunch
of
different
changes,
some
of
which
are
either
non-policy
changes.
C
What
we'll
be
doing
with
those
is
putting
them
in
line
in
text
in
the
document.
So
this
is
a
page
out
of
the
growth
management
element,
for
example,
where
the
planning
commission
said
hey,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
this
is
really
double
down
on
fulfilling
the
city's
green
belt
policies.
We
want
to
emphasize
that
so
we've
identified
inline
underlying
strikeout,
I'm
sorry
what
was
that?
C
Yeah,
thank
you.
So
this
is
the
the
planning
commission's
recommendation
for
an
amendment.
We've
identified
them
as
green,
we'll
have
different
color
codes
for
different
committees,
for
example,
and
then
the
planning
or
the
city
council
will
be
able
to
look
at
this,
and
you
know
say:
yes,
we
want
to
incorporate
these
changes
or
no,
we
don't
want
to
incorporate
the
changes.
C
Now
we've
also
had
ex
you
know
in
public
comment
and
also
in
some
of
the
committee
recommendations,
policy
changes
that
are
recommended
that
conflict
with
one
another.
So
here's
an
example
of
how
we
can
handle
that
where
we
will
bring
forward
a
table
that
identifies
you
know
where
the
policy
is
located,
what
the
topic
is
building
height
in
this
example,
what
the
different
recommendations
were
some
folks
say:
let
it
limit
it
to
three.
Some
have
said:
four
is
okay,
some
say
six
is
okay.
C
I
heard
from
a
public
member
yesterday
that
maybe
it's
okay
with
them
so
where's
the
source.
Where
is
this
coming
from
so
the
the
planning
commission
city
council
can
identify
that
and
then
ultimately,
there'll
be
a
box
for
the
planning
commission
recommendation,
which
is
sort
of
the
last
clearinghouse
before
the
city
council
makes
their
policy
decision
and
then
staff
will
identify
the
policy
implications
and
trade-offs
of
taking
on
whichever
the
recommendation.
That's
in
that
row.
C
This
way
the
city
council
will
be
able
to
see
either
new
policy
or
changes
to
policy
that
don't
align
necessarily
with
what's
in
the
draft
and
be
able
to
select
from
among
these
competing
policies
and
tell
staff.
This
is
what
how
we'd
like
you
to
change
that
document,
so
that,
in
a
nutshell,
is
a
very
brief
and
high
level
overview
of
what
the
process
looks
like
how
you
fit
into
it
and
how
those
changes
will
be
incorporated.
C
C
We
had
sent
those
out
to
you
and
realize
that
this
was
quick
turnaround,
but
we
asked
if
you
wanted,
to
provide
some
feedback
before
the
meeting
to
help
organize
the
discussion
that
you
could
send
those
back.
We've
taken
those
comments
that
we've
received
and
put
them
in
here:
color
coded
them
and
identified
the
individual
who's
who
put
them
in
here.
C
How
are
we
going
to
organize
our
discussion,
so
it's
efficient
in
the
same
email
that
we
sent
this
out.
We
provided
a
template.
That
is
an
option
for
the
committee
to
use,
if
you
wish
to
that,
involves
some
straw
polling
and
then
some
debate
style
process
for
trying
to
identify
and
highlight
that's
only
one
way
that
could
be
done.
C
It's
not
required
that
you
do
it
that
way.
You
can
certainly
form
your
own
process,
so
so
in
conclusion,
and
then
I
want
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
about
the
process
or
you
know
what
this
gateway
document
is
or
how
it
all
fits
together
before
we
move
into
public
comment,
you
know
we're
hoping
that
you'll
make
a
formal
vote
for
any
modifications
that
you
come
to
out
of
your
discussion
here
today.
C
Anything
that
could
improve
the
document.
Whether
that's
you
know
you
identified
missing
policies
or
you
have
policies
that
you
want
to
tweak
just
slightly,
and
you
would
be
able
to
do
that
in
your
discussion
and
we
will
combine
and
collate
those
discussions
on
this
document
so
that
you'll
have
a
visual
of
what's
being
discussed.
C
We
would
ask
that
you
not
get
into
wordsmithing,
and
you
know
trying
to
craft
language
at
this
point.
What
we
would
suggest
you
do
instead
is
to
identify
the
policy
area
and
identify
the
the
direction
or
the
change
that
you
think
needs
to
be
made.
If
we
can
make
it
on
the
fly
and
it's
pretty
simple,
we
found
some
some
of
the
energy
committees.
Recommendations
could
pretty
quickly
be
identified,
we'll
go
through
that
process,
but
if
we
get
weighted
down
by
you
know
specific
language.
C
This
will
compound
the
time
that
it
takes
to
get
through
these
these
policies.
So
instead
what
we'd
suggest
is
you
make
a
suggestion
policy
direction
to
us?
If
we've
got,
you
know
broad
support
majority
support
for
that
policy
direction.
Staff
will
then
go
and
work
either
with
its
consultant
or
independently
to
redraft
that
policy
language
and
we'll
reflect
it
back
to
you.
It'll
already
be
incorporated
in
either
the
table
or
the
document
itself.
C
C
H
There
were
some
ways
that
policy
or
concept
could
be
implemented
that
I
would
approve
of,
and
there
were
others
that
I
would
not
approve
of,
and
so
I
I
feel
like
my
hands
are
tied
behind
my
back
that
I
can't
I
I
can't
say
yes
and
I
can't
say
no,
because
I
don't
see,
for
example,
if
if
a
bike
trail
is
being
moved
to
some
other
comparable
place
in
the
area.
Well,
what
does
that
look
like
you
know
is?
Would
it
be
comparable
to
me
as
a
cyclist?
H
C
C
When
the
projects
are
implemented,
you
would
get
you
know,
go
through
a
process
that
would
start
with.
You
know:
30
percent
design.
You
know
move
forward
from
there
with
more
specific
detail
around
those
specific
locations,
and
so
it's
it's
it's
impossible
to
have
the
project
level
detail
at
the
planning
scale.
So
we
just
wanted
to
recognize.
We
didn't
want
anybody
to
think.
Well,
there's
going
to
be
a
trail
exactly
right
here.
C
Some
of
those
may
require
securing
easements.
Some
of
those
may
require
you
know:
purchasing
land,
for
example,
and
so
to
to
implement
the
document
over
all
the
ideas
that
we've
identified
a
goal,
a
target.
We
want
to
have
a
circulation
system
that
looks
approximately
like
this
and
then
the
project
level
detail
will
define
more
specifically
where
that
trail
is
located
and
what
what
type
it
is
but
yeah.
I
I
understand
the
frustration
we
could
talk
through.
You
know
specifics.
If
you
have
them
in
detail.
B
And
I
have
one
you
know
analogy
to
offer
to:
I
think
you
know,
as
a
scientist
and
a
details
person,
I'm
sure
it
would
be
challenging
to
have
everything,
be
you
know
pretty
abstract,
but
a
an
element
of
a
general
plan
is
sort
of
analogous
to
an
architect's
rendering
of
a
design.
It's
supposed
to
show
a
vision
and
sort
of
give
you
the
the
rough
sketch
of
it
and
the
form-based
code.
The
implementing
ordinance
is
more
like
the
architect's
plans.
B
C
Yeah
and
just
lastly
to
that,
I
think
that
you
know
the.
If,
if
you
can
define
as
a
group
the
specific
endpoint,
then
we
as
planners
can
help
identify
the
policy
that
would
indicate
that
that
endpoint.
So
if
you
have
a
very
concrete
vision
of
of
what
that
endpoint
is
going
to
look
like
we
can,
we
can
help
with
the
policy
language.
C
Yeah
so
you're
wanting
to
dig
straight
into
the
detail
on
the
on
these
comments.
Here
I
would,
I
would
suggest
yeah.
I
would
suggest
that
you
know
we
take
two
steps
to
get
into
that.
The
first
would
be
to
decide
whether
you
want
to
weed
weed
down
wait
through
the
18
policies
that
there's
points
of
discussion
recommended
on
in
this
document,
and
if
not,
if
you
want
to
go
through
all
18,
then
we
could
start
digging
those
after
you've
taken
public
comment.
D
David,
I
have
a
question
questions.
Yeah
am
I
unbeated
yeah
man
yeah,
so
just
two
quick
things.
Just
while
you
were
speaking,
I
realized.
I
need
to
backpedal
just
a
little
bit
on
one
of
my
comments
as
much
as
my
goal
is
for
us
to
make
some
solid
recommendations
tonight.
The
realization
hit
me
that
we
have
four
quorum
or
four
members,
barely
making
a
quorum,
we're
missing,
josh
misael
and
is
that
everybody
david
case?
I
don't
see
on
my
screen,
but
we
have
six
members.
D
D
I
I
want
to
go
through
some
we'll
talk
about
how
much
in
detail
we're
going
to
go
through
these,
but
whatever
we
end
up
doing,
I
might
feel
a
little
reluctant
to
create
solid
recommendations
without
having
our
usual
committee
members
we're
usually
pretty
good
with
having
a
you
know:
full
attendance,
yeah
and
just
just
to
have
some
I
mean
I'm
interested
in
hearing
our
other
committee
members
perspective.
You
know,
perspectives,
those
that
aren't
here.
D
D
The
second
part
of
that
is
whether
the
committee
would
like
to
have
our
discussion,
then
bring
in
the
public,
get
some
public
feedback
and
then
decide
what
we
may
want
to
do
specifically,
and
I
mean
I
I
wouldn't
mind
getting
your
opinion
on
that
david.
It
sounds
like
you
were
leaning
to
going
straight
to
public
comment
at
this
point,
and
I
haven't
heard
from
any
of
you.
D
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
read
what
the
committee
is
saying,
I'd
kind
of
like
to
have
our
chance
to
do
some
deliberation,
maybe
not
make
any
final
decisions
hear
from
the
public
and
then
decide
what
final
decisions
we're
going
to
make
and
we
try
to
keep.
You
know,
keep
that
moving
efficiently,
but
does
that
sound
like
the
process
to
you?
That's
just
going
to
get
really
bogged
down
in
your
experience.
C
K
C
Missing
one
committee
yeah:
he
works
for
ghd
and
so
he's
been
recusing
himself.
Ghd
is
working
on
the
project,
and
so
he
would
recuse
from
that.
But
you
know-
and
I
understand
the
desire
to
have
you
know
full
committee-
I
mean
you
have
a
quorum.
You
have
the
ability
to
act,
you
know
more
than
a
quorum,
it's
it's
really
to
your
discretion
as
well
and
again,
if
you
wanted
to
take,
you
know
subcommittees,
or
you
know,
special
meetings.
That's
all
all
within
your
your
discretion.
C
The
energy
committee
just
to
reflect
on
their
experience
last
night
had
a
similar
situation
where
they
didn't
have
a
full.
They
had
a
quorum,
but
they
didn't
have
their
full
body.
Ultimately,
they
felt
empowered
to
move
forward
with
a
recommendation
and
then
are
going
to
take
the
matter
up
again
at
their
next
meeting,
bring
those
other
participants.
Whoever
happens
to
show
up
at
that
time
into
the
discussion,
and
you
know
if
they
have
other
recommendations
at
that
time.
They
can
make
them
then
as
well.
So
it's
it's
really
up
to
you.
D
Okay,
yeah.
I
appreciate
that
yeah,
that's
a
little
bit
of
a
game
changer
that
joss
has
to
refuse
himself
he's
half
of
the
people
that
aren't
here
so
mathematically.
You
know
we
jump
from
60
to
80
or
vice
versa,
don't
check
my
numbers
on
that
any
engineers
out
there
please.
So
I
would
like
to
just
briefly
you
know:
there's
only
three
other
people
other
than
me
maybe
go
through.
How
do
you
guys
want
to
proceed
tonight?
D
You
know,
what
do
you
call
them
not
bookkeeping,
but
you
know
I
only
have
three
items
that
I've
really
commented
on,
but
one
of
them.
I
comment
on
in
seven
places
that
were
just
more
what
you
would
call
getting
beyond
the
policy.
You
know
it's
the
same
policy,
but
it's
like.
Oh
you
mentioned
it
here.
You
mentioned
it
here.
You
mentioned
it
here,
so
mine's
really
only
about
three,
and
I
don't
know
the
other
members.
You
know
how
you
guys
feel
so.
D
C
B
D
Right
right,
I
appreciate
that
so
I
guess
at
this
point
and
before
we
decide
that
is,
ask
everybody
who
wants
to
comment
to
raise
their
hand,
and
I
do
believe
your
hands
will
go
up
in
order
and
sorry
it
turns
into
a
race
I'd
rather
not
leave
anybody
out.
So
even
if
you
were
the
last
one
to
raise
your
hand,
you
know
this
isn't
jeopardy.
Folks,
you're
not
gonna,
be
sent
home.
How
many
hands
do
we
have
david?
D
A
N
N
Just
to
remind
you
what
you
said
six
months
ago,
karina
johnson,
I
admit
to
being
really
really
reluctant
to
turn
this
into
a
road
referring
to
the
l
street
straight
because
I
enjoy
not
having
cars
right
next.
To
me
I
mean
you
can
hear
the
birds
singing
people
talking
and
laughing
the
wind
blowing
in
the
trees.
L
street
is
just
going
to
be
all
we're
going
to
hear
is
cars.
N
Dave
ryan
said
I
think,
it'd
be
a
missed
opportunity
to
turn
this
into
a
people
gathering
place
for
bikers
and
walkers.
I
see
cafes
there
in
the
future
bakeries
little
music
venues,
kids
on
bikes
parks,
barklets
outdoor
tables
and
at
night
in
transform,
there's
lighting,
there's
people
coming
through
walking
having
dinner,
bringing
their
relatives
from
out
of
town
and
they're
not
dealing
with
cars.
N
This
was
six
months
ago.
You've
received
the
letter
I
sent
to
the
planning
commission,
the
city
council
regarding
the
lk
street
couplet.
I
view
the
draft
plan
has
presented
one
possibility
of
how
k
street
and
l
street
can
be
configured.
I
propose
there
are
others,
there's
been
talk
of
a
plan
b,
but
I
don't
think
a
plan
b
has
been
formalized.
There
could
be
a
plan
b
plan
c,
a
plan
d.
N
These
could
be
presented
to
the
creamery
district
people,
they've
been
asking
about
it
and
other
interested
parties,
ideally
with
3d
modeling,
with
actual
cars
and
trucks
in
the
modeling
to
pickings,
depicting
the
streets,
not
just
empty
streets,
so
people
can
have
an
idea
of
what
it
would
be.
Like.
N
The
chair
mentioned
an
interest
in
form-based
code.
There
is
a
very
good
presentation
on
form
based
code
by
the
city's
consultant
ben
noble.
Unfortunately,
the
audio
is
terrible
on
it.
I
took
the
time
to
transcribe
the
entire
presentation.
It
is
on
the
arcata1.com
website,
along
with
an
enhanced
audio
and
all
the
70
slides
from
the
original
presentation.
N
N
Lastly,
on
page
three,
the
strategic
infill
redevelopment
process
in
your
packet-
the
second
paragraph
from
the
bottom,
is
headed,
quote
time,
search
in
the
review.
It
says
the
engagement
review
outlined
by
staff
as
a
time
certain
period
for
review.
I
ask
you
to
read
this
paragraph
carefully,
the
phrase
time
certain
is
a
legal
phrase.
I
asked
the
committee
to
request
of
staff.
What
does
this
phrase
mean?
Why
is
that
using
it
in
this
way,
and
what
is
staff
actually
saying
here?
N
A
O
As
you
all
know,
we
do
strongly
support
the
gateway
plan
as
a
whole,
and
you
know
we
believe
that
it's
the
most
like
and
pedestrian
friendly
plan
that
we've
seen
in
the
area
and
so
really
are
eager
to
see
to
see
it
implemented,
of
course,
doesn't
mean
that
there
aren't
some
small
improvements
that
we'd
like
to
see,
and
we
did
send
you
some
you'll
resend
our
comments.
So
I
hope
you
had
a
chance
to
look
at
those.
I
want
to
address
a
couple
things.
O
Improvements
for
people
walking
and
biking
is
is
just
really
great
in
my
opinion,
and
you
know,
of
course,
if
we
could
do
that
in
some
other
way.
That
would
be
great
too,
but,
but
I
think
you
know
maintaining
the
l
street
trail
and
doing
it
as
a
couplet
is
a
reasonable
proposal
and
we
and
we
would
support
it-
some
of
the
other
sort
of
smaller
edits
that
we
would
recommend
that
are
particularly
related
to
this
committee's
mission.
O
O
Related
to
the
earlier
conversation
class,
4
bikeways
on
11th,
which
is
another
one
of
those
major
barriers
and
and
risky
streets
for
people
walking
and
biking
and
ensure
that
there's
a
six
foot
minimum
clear
path
on
sidewalks,
rather
than
just
a
six
foot
minimum
width
which
can
be
blocked
by
some
of
the
other
uses
that
we
want
to
encourage,
such
as
outdoor
dining
and
so
forth.
So
that's,
I
guess,
that's
it
for
now.
Thank
you.
J
Hello
staff,
family
members:
I
would
like
to
put
a
pitch
in
for
the
l
street
resident
trails
as
a
linear
park
and
a
green
belt
as
it
represents
the
potential
artery
in
the
gateway
trails
plan.
The
l
street
section,
the
rails
and
trails
border
is
identified
as
the
only
primary
public
accessible
public
space
in
the
gateway.
J
J
It
connects
with
to
the
north
with
the
power
path
of
to
from
larsen
park,
the
skate
park,
jay
park
and
stewart
park
to
the
east.
Presently,
the
l
street
pathway
serves
as
a
corridor
to
the
trail
network
at
the
airport,
wildlife
and
sanctuary
to
the
south.
When
the
great
northern
wetland
trail
redwood
trail
is
completed,
the
yellow
street
will
be
the
gateway
into
arcata
and
will
eventually
connect
to
the
annie
and
mary's
trail
of
blue
lake.
J
The
fresnel
street
path
offers
a
green
belt
that
could
be
enhanced
with
restoration
of
a
number
of
pocket
wetlands
and
that
are
more
prevalent
to
the
south.
On
the
east
side
of
l
street
of
the
path
and
south
of
7th
street
is
a
linear,
ditch
that
runs
south.
It
is
considered
a
jurisdictional
wetland
by
california,
fish
and
wildlife
and
is
identified
as
an
active
breeding
area
for
frogs.
J
J
The
existing
l
street
path
footprint
offers
the
potential
of
a
high
quality
linear
park
in
the
form
of
greenbox
corridor.
The
proposed
two-way
cutlet
for
knl
street
would
reduce
the
footprint
of
the
linear
park
and
eliminate
wetlands.
Please
consider
a
green
belt
enhancement
as
opposed
to
rose
expansion
on
l
street.
This
concept
continued
excuse
me,
contributes
to
walkability
in
the
proposed
gateway
plan
draft,
and
I
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that.
K
K
We
recognize
that
building
up
saves
land
and
it
saves
energy,
and
it
also
is
that
kind
of
density,
greatly
benefits,
transit
service,
mixed
use
and
allowing
communities
to
have
jobs,
housing
balance.
The
one
comment
I
did
have
that
wasn't
in
the
letter
is
particularly
applicable
to
the
city
engineer
in
policy.
Ga
7b
h,
which
is
talking
about
new
roadway
connections.
K
The
last
comment
I'll
make-
and
this
is
in
my
letter-
is
that
there
is
the
policy
ga7a
which
I've
already
seen
in
your
notes.
People
have
commented
on
where
it
says,
ensure
the
circulation
system
supports
increased
vehicle
and
trucks,
and
I
just
suggest
different
wording
that
you
instead
ensure
a
functioning
safe,
efficient,
sustainable,
multimodal
network.
L
Go
ahead,
chris
hello,
chris
richards,
I
guess
I
could
speak
as
a
citizen
as
a
and
later
as
a
business
owner
and
possibly
even
later,
as
a
member
of
responsible
growth
archaeda.
But
I
know
your
guys's
time
is
limited.
I
want
you
to
have
a
progress
very
productive
meeting,
so
I'm
just
going
to
mirror
some
of
the
things
that
fred
said
with
the
lk
street
corridor.
L
L
David
has
mentioned
plan
b
in
a
few
iterations,
and
I
I
really
think
the
conversation
should
already
be
going
in
that
direction,
because
the
whole
process
of
that
becoming
a
reality
is
not
not
going
to
happen
as
far
as
land
acquisition.
You
know
unless
the
city
decides
to
get
more
aggressive
with
their
language
and
what
they're
trying
to
promote
here,
but
in
addition
to
that,
the
l
street
corridor
is
currently
a
very
people
friendly
bike
friendly
area.
L
That
is
organically
becoming
a
wonderful
area,
and
I
think
it
would
be
an
incredibly
big
lost
opportunity
to
create
an
additional
truck
route
through
that
very
pleasant
streetway.
Now
I
I've
spoken
to
lots
of
people
that
use
the
trail.
I've
I've
done
research
on
truck
routes,
and
you
know
in
other
cities
and
it's
not
irresponsible
of
a
city
to
have
a
truck
route.
L
You
know,
and
especially
we're
talking
k,
streets,
four
or
five
locks
six
at
the
most,
so
I
think
routing
bicycle
traffic
to
the
wonderful
trails
we
already
have
and
we're
gonna
get
more
is
is
a
good
solution.
So
anyway,
I
I
definitely
promote
not
doing
that
two
one-way
street
program
and
looking
at
some
other
options,
plan
b,
plan
c,
whatever
it
is.
Thank
you
probably
out
of
time
take
care,
appreciate
your
guys's
effort
very
much.
A
P
Good
evening,
yes,
I
would
like
to
thank
you
in
the
committee
for
all
your
hard
work
in
the
past
and
and
I'd
first
like
to
challenge,
maybe
really
quickly
the
notion
of
being
able
to
speak
as
a
community
member
and
also
as
part
of
a
group.
I
might
open
up
a
can
of
worms
for
us
that
are
part
of
a
group
too.
So
I
wanted
to
throw
that
out.
P
I
also
wanted
to
talk
really
quickly
and
hopefully
there's
so
much
that
you
guys
can
offer
to
this
plan
that
maybe
think
about
having
a
special
meeting
or
a
subcommittee
in
the
past
to
go
over
and
dive
into
this
in
more
detail
and
give
a
lot
of
your
recommendations
there.
Since
there.
I
guess
there
is
one
more
committee,
member
that
you
can
include
into
it,
and
also
because
there
is
the
missing
agenda
items
that
were
left
out
of
the
packet
accidentally
so
anyways.
P
I
live
on
the
path
I
use
it
to
hub
out
everywhere.
I
don't
ride
along
k
street.
I
have
lost
been
close
to
losing
my
life
and
lost
a
lot
of
skin
with
people
opening
up
their
doors
with
parked
cars,
or
you
know,
cars
along
the
side
of
a
roadway.
So
I'm
never
really
all
that
thrilled
with
having
a
bike
path
going
along
parked
cars
as
what
is
going
to
be
proposed
for
k
street
I'd
also
really
like
to
see
plan
b.
P
The
community
loves
it
it's
cherished
by
all
and
it
would
like
it
would
be
nice
to
see
that
protected.
So
I
guess
I'll
leave
it
there,
and
hopefully
you
won't
hear
back
from
me
as
an
rga
member.
But
if
that's
an
option
you
might
hear
back
to
me,
but
I
know
time's
short.
So
thank
you.
So
much
for
all
your
time.
D
Q
I'm
just
phoning
in
as
someone
who's
been
in
the
creamery
district,
that's
from
the
inception
in
2012,
when
we
visioned
the
creamery
district
with
a
lot
of
community
members,
both
within
the
district
and
within
the
city
of
arcata,
and
the
bike
path
and
l
street
was
in
the
vision
that
we
had
in
in
2012
also
a
walking
mall.
So,
as
I
see
more
housing
come
into
the
area
which
I
I
believe
we
need
more
housing
in
arcata,
and
so
I
support
the
housing
plan,
I'm
against
l
street.
Q
Turning
into
a
road
not
on
any
sort
of
civic
planning.
I
haven't,
I
haven't,
looked
at
it
that
way,
but
in
an
ephemeral
sort
of
heartfelt
way
of
what
the
creamery
district
is
and
how
it
has
grown
to
operate
as
the
creamery
district.
So,
as
we
start
to
see
more
and
more
people
in
the
creamery
district
and
more
and
more
activity
and
more
business
and
more,
you
know,
use
tax
that
goes
into
the
budget
for
the
city
and
and
more
taxes
that
go
into
the
general
budget.
Q
I
think
the
opportunity
for
that
will
increase-
and
I
think
turning
l
street
into
a
road
will
impact
that
I
think
it
will
impact
my
business
in
the
arts.
It
will
impact.
You
know,
twelve
thousand
dollar
art
installation
that
I've
put
in
there
with
the
understanding
that
it
was
a
bike
path,
and
I
I
feel
that
it's
a
derail
from
what
was
developed
there
and
what
the
community
and
what
we
had
been
working
on
with
both
the
community
and
the
city
of
arcata.
Q
So
I'm
strongly
opposed
to
l
street
becoming
a
road
taking
away
the
trail.
I
would
love
to
see
a
walking
mall
from
the
you
know,
the
plaza
to
the
creamery
district
and
that's
never
going
to
happen,
but
that
is
something
I
would
love
to
see
is
more
places
where
pedestrians
and
bikes
can
have
the
road
not
just
a
piece
of
the
road,
but
they
can
have
the
road,
and
I
think
that's
what
the
bike
path
does
connecting
it
to
the
marsh.
Q
If
we're
looking
at
tourism,
how
our
people
come
to
an
arts
district
and
go
to
the
marsh,
they
can
walk
they're
from
now.
For
now,
that's
my
two
cents
on
it.
Please
don't
turn
it
into
a
road.
That's
what
I
would
love
to
see.
So
thank
you
for
hearing
me
and
I'm
hopeful
that
you
receive
the
letty
letter
from
the
artisan
actions
group
and,
if
you
haven't,
I
will
make
sure
that
it
gets
forwarded
on
to
you.
C
Cheers
if
I
could
just
interject
I
I
think
that
you
know
you
heard
from
a
couple
of
public
members
that
the
allowing
people
to
come
in
under
you
know,
different
auspices.
You
know
is
kind
of
a
slippery
slope.
This
is
a
you
know.
You
know
a
little
bit
of
a
challenging
one.
You
know
this
particular
member
is
representing
an
agency
who's.
Has
you
know
kind
of
a
referral
capacity
in
in
the
matter?
C
So,
regardless
of
your
affiliations,
you're
going
to
go
through
them
twice
or
whether
you're
going
to
limit
people
to
speaking
you
know
orally
in
the
meeting
once
recognizing.
It
is
not
the
only
way
to
provide
public
comment
that
people
can
submit
written
comment.
They
can
also
submit
oral
comment
to
you
know
a
subsequent
meeting,
but
you
do
have
a
decision
to
make
right
right
now.
If
you
make
the
the
decision
that
you
know,
oona
can
speak
again
on
behalf
of
herself.
D
I
appreciate
that
david
yeah.
I
I
hear
what
you're
saying
and
right
now,
I'm
not
seeing
that
that
if
we
actually
did
if
everybody
got
to
speak
one
more
time
personally,
you
know
we
don't
have
a
heck
of
a
lot
of
public
participation.
Here,
I'd
be
curious
to
hear
from
from
staff,
maybe
from
david
or
nature,
if
you
guys
have
any
feedback
on
that.
Does
that
set
a
bad
president?
D
A
Have
another
round
of
public
comment
after
you
guys
discuss
this
or
no
you're?
Okay,
no,
we're
not
so
patricia
raised
her
hand
again,
and
then
we
have
the
new
one
which
is
genevieve.
So
at
this
point
we
only
have
three
other
hands.
So
maybe
if,
if
as
long
as
hands,
oh
they're
popping
back
up
again,
maybe
this
is
a
slippery
slope.
Here's
another
hand
raising
up
again,
so
I
I
would.
A
D
If
community
development
would
allow
whatever,
let's
just
say,
we
shut
public
comment
down
after
each
individual
speaks
once
and
if
community
development
would
allow
an
email
or
or
a
mailed
comment
of
whatever
they
would
say
in
lieu
to
be
included
as
part
of
that
record,
of
course,
we
don't
get
to
hear
what
that
person
says
to
you
know
have
any
sway
toward
us
today.
So
any
other
committee
members
wish
to
wendy,
you
have
any
feedback
on
it.
G
Yeah,
I
tend
to
agree
with
david
lawyer
here
and
also,
I
would
say,
like
you
know,
I
think
I
hear
dave
and
dave
ryan
that
you
said
now.
We
can
allow
people
second
time,
so
I
see
more
hand
raised,
so
we
will
be
here
for
all
night
if
we
allow
people
to
repeat
again,
so
I
could
definitely
clear
call,
but
I'm
just
being
mindful.
If
we
start
doing
again,
I
see
more
hands
raised
and
they
would
want
to
talk
more
so
so
that's
my
thoughts.
A
M
Hi,
I
was
just
going
to
jump
in
to
say
that
I
just
wanted
to
second
what
the
representative
from
the
arcata
playhouse
said
about.
You
know
her
opposition
to
turning
all
street
into
a
fair
affair,
and
you
know
altering
the
bike
path
in
a
way
that
would
diminish
its
accessibility.
I
I
I
don't
want
to
see
those
that
bike
path
go
away
and
I
I
wouldn't
want
to
see
l
street
become
a
more
expanded,
truck,
router
or
car
thoroughfare,
and
then
just
two
second.
M
D
D
A
N
Yes,
thank
you.
This
will
be
very
quick.
You
can
hear
me,
okay
sure,
go
ahead.
Okay,
thank
you.
There
is
a
reference
to
something
that's
missing
from
the
agenda
packet.
Is
that
something
that
the
committee
has
in
front
of
them?
Is
it
something
that
we
as
the
public
could
get
or
have
emailed
to
us?
I
think
it's
the
chart
that
staff
has
made.
That
shows
the
comments
from
the
transportation
safety
committee
from
previous
meetings.
B
B
So
fred,
so
for
your
part,
I
think
you
would
probably
be
able
to
track
this
a
little
bit
better
because
I
know
you've
attended
some
of
the
other
meetings.
Every
committee
is
given
basically
a
riff
on
the
same
content.
So
there's
a
staff
report,
same
staff
report
for
every
committee,
same
content,
I'm
happy
to
share
that
with
you
share
my
screen
or
send
it
out
afterwards.
It's
a
very
brief
staff
report
explaining
the
gateway
plan.
B
How
we
got
to
the
point
we
are
at
where
you
can
find
the
plan
on
the
website
and
so
forth,
and
then
attachment
a
is
typically,
the
exerted
parts
of
the
documents
that
are
relevant
to
the
committee
attachment
b.
Is
that
sort
of
like
chart
of
all
the
different
steps
which
you
did
receive
in
your
packet
and
attachment
c
is
the
sort
of
table
of
all
of
the
various
comments
we
will
be
going
through
it
tonight,
so
it
should
be
completely
transparent.
B
So
all
of
it
is,
you
know,
pretty
transparent
and
available
like
going
through
most
of
it
this
evening
or
it's
available
on
the
website
already.
So,
if
you
would
like
to
see
the
staff
report,
it's
the
same
staff
report
as
went
to
energy
committee
and
parks
and
recreation
committee
more
or
less,
if
not
exactly,
and
I'm
happy
to
share
my
screen
and
show
it
to
the
committee
before
we
move
forward
with
deliberations.
D
Yeah,
thank
you,
dilo.
The
reason
I
wanted
you
to
answer.
That
was
because
I
wasn't
sure
what
was
missing
also
because
we
did
receive
a
staff
report,
but
I
guess
it's
maybe
some
of
the
attachments
that
are
missing.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Who's.
The
next
public
comment,
david,
patricia,
patricia,
go
ahead.
P
Okay,
yeah,
I
thought
it
might
open
a
can
of
worms,
so
I
will
keep
this
really
really
brief
for
your.
For
your
sake.
When
I,
as
an
rga
responsible
growth,
arcade
member
went
knocking
door
to
door,
our
primary
focus
was
just
to
get
to
people
to
read
the
draft
of
the
gateway
plan
or
get
people
to
know
about
it
and
read
it,
and
I
was
actually
surprised.
I
thought
I
was
just
biased
living
on
the
bicycle
path
or
you
know
directly
adjacent
to
it
that
it
was
just.
P
You
know
my
argument
for
wanting
to
keep
this
bike
path,
as
is,
and
not
have
a
major
thoroughfare
go
through,
but
I
was
really
surprised
to
learn
that
people
had
like
a
really
strong
desire
to
keep
it
as
a
bicycle
bath
and
to
enhance
it.
Most
people
really
thought
it
was
going
to
become
a
linear
park,
and
that
was
the
whole
goal
behind
it,
which
I
was
surprised
to
learn.
You
know
people
definitely
had
an
issue
with
the
heights
of
building
that
were
proposed.
P
Most
people
wanted
three
or
four
stories
that
I
talked
with,
but
it
was
the
bicycle
path
was
a
huge
huge
opposition
to
them
so
anyways.
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
and
just
kind
of
represent
everybody
who
I
discussed
the
gateway
plan
with
that
that
was
huge
huge
on
the
list
up.
There
is
probably
the
one
of
the
top
three
their
top
three
concerns,
so
anyways
I'll
stop
there
and
good
luck
with
everybody
else.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
letting
us
speak
again.
D
K
Yeah
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
for
the
for
the
people
who
it
fell
badly
with.
I
was
commenting
as
the
official
comment
from
the,
and
I
didn't
say
this.
I
said
h,
cog,
which
stands
for
the
humboldt
county
association
government
of
governments,
which
is
the
regional
transportation
planning
agency.
So
those
comments
were
based
on
an
adopted
plan
adopted
by
our
board,
so
those
were
official
comments
of
the
agency
as
as
wendy
and
david
did
mention.
K
So
I
cannot
comment
with
my
personal
views
under
that
and
and
I'll
refrain
from
doing
it
here.
So
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
let
people
know
it
was
not
an
arbitrary
thing
that
I
was
trying
to
do,
but
I
would
like
to
take
this
opportunity,
though,
for
a
clarifying
question
in
that
in
the
plan
figure
eight
is
the
proposed
vehicle
circulation
and
figure.
K
9
is
the
proposed
active
transportation
circulation
and
in
the
active
transportation
circulation
figure
it
does
show
the
existing
multi-use
path
remaining,
as
so
from
the
way
I
interpret
it
on
l
street.
So
I'm
I'm
just
as
a
clarifying.
It
would
be
helpful
moving
forward.
If
perhaps
those
two
figures
were
overlaid
so
that
we
could
understand
what
actually
is
being
proposed
at
this
point
to
actually
be
taken
away,
because
I
would,
I
would
hate
for
all
these
bad
fears
to
be
based
on
something
that's
not
proposed.
L
Okay,
thanks
again,
this
time
I'll
be
under
the
guise
of
responsible
growth
arcada,
and
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
with
dilo
that
template
that
was
not
included
in
the
pack.
It
has
all
of
the
comments
that
you've
compiled
from
this
group
in
the
past
and
you're
saying
that's
available
on
the
city's
website.
I
wasn't
real
clear
where
that
is.
It
would
be
nice
to
have
a
copy
of
that
before
they
go
through
and
tonight
and
revisit
that
and
add
to
it.
So
I
can
compare
later.
What
is
that
of
you?
B
L
Is
it
there
some
way
to
put
that
out,
as
you
would
have
with
the
agent
I
mean
it
should
have
been
included
in
that
agenda
packet,
and
I
understand
technology
technology
doesn't
work
and
it's
great
when
it
does,
but
when
it
doesn't
it's
a
glitch
so
anyway,
if
there's
any
way,
you
can
get
that
it's
not
like
a
make
or
break
it
kind
of
a
thing,
but
that
would
be
great.
I
know
you
probably
have
that
document
as
it
exists
currently
somewhere
so
anyway.
D
Thank
you,
chris,
is
that
it
david.
That's
it
yeah
all
right.
We're
gonna,
close
public
comment,
then,
and
move
on
to
committee
deliberation.
So
I
guess
the
question
is
is
how
we
best
want
to
proceed
and
I'm
not
sure
exactly
followed.
What
you
know
david,
maybe
had
some
ways
to
suggest
that
we
could
eliminate
some
some
duplication
of
discussions
and
so
dilo.
B
Well,
I
guess
I'll
just
start
by
saying
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
content,
and
you
know
each
policy
could
really
be
its
own
discussion.
So
we
definitely
appreciate
you
know
your
leadership,
chair,
ryan
and
you
know
acknowledging.
Yes,
this
is
really
really
important
work
and
we
also
want
to
try
and
get
you
know
to
the
real
nugget
of
what
the
concerns
are
and
figure
out
how
to
address
them
or
make
policies
better.
So
with
that
being
said,
you
know
every
committee
has
kind
of
run
meetings
a
little
differently.
B
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen.
This
was
sent
to
you
before
the
meeting,
but
what
we
have
here
is
all
of
the
compiled
comments
and
the
ones
that
are
kind
of
peach
toned
are
highlighted
because
one
member
or
multiple
members
of
the
committee
had
commented
on
it.
The
ones
that
are
still
in
white
have
not
yet
received
a
comment
from
the
committee,
so
it
might
be
worthwhile
if
everyone
has
access
to
be
able
to
pull
this
up.
B
That
was
sent
to
you
by,
I
believe
melanie
before
the
meeting
just
take
two
or
three
minutes
and
look
through
it
and
see
if
there
are
any
cells
that
are
in
white,
that
you
would
like
to
flag
to
comment
on
with
the
full
committee,
or
you
know,
dave
another
option.
I'm
sorry
if
I'm
like
making
you
c6
scrolling
through
I'm
going
to
stop
doing
that.
B
B
You
know
item
by
item,
so
those
are,
I
would
recommend,
maybe
two
options:
one
either
go
through
every
one
or
give
the
committee
a
couple
of
minutes
to
review
what
has
already
been
put
together
and
see
if
there
are
any
other
additional
policies
that
haven't
been
flagged
yet
that
anyone
would
like
to
go
over
and
then
we
can
add
that
to
the
pile
of
policies
to
go
through.
As
a
group.
D
Is
it
also
your
understanding
that
you
know
if
you
didn't
put
a
comment
on?
Are
you
good
with
it
or
wendy?
Since
I
I
don't
know
if
you
had
an
opportunity
to
look
at
this
and
if
you're
going
to
have
any
any
items
to
bring
up,
so
let
me
ask
susan
and
karina
first:
do
you
have
any
comments
on
anything
other
than
the
ones
that
you
know
the
ones
that
are
blank
susan?
I.
H
I
I
commented
on
things
that
I
felt
I
could
concretely
add
to
a
lot
of
them.
As
I
mentioned
in
my
initial
question
to
david,
a
lot
of
things
to
me
seemed
so
nebulous.
I
had
a.
I
didn't
know
how
to
deal
with
them.
So
just
because
I
didn't
comment
doesn't
mean
I
don't
have
anything
to
say
it
means
I
don't
know
how
to.
I
don't
know
how
to
address
it.
It's.
H
B
And
one
quick
note
on
that,
if
I,
if
I
may,
is
that
that
is
completely
fine,
not
every
comment
or
not
every
policy
will
need
a
comment
from
every
committee
member.
I
think
it
is
definitely
sort
of
more
of
a
stone
soup.
If
you
have
expertise,
you
have
an
opinion.
You
kind
of
put
that
forward.
Everyone
will
have
different
things
to
say
and
also
keep
in
mind.
You
know
this
is
one
committee
of
seven
that
we
are
going
to
before.
B
We
bring
it
to
planning
commission
and
then
send
it
to
the
council.
So
there's
no
need
you
know
to
to
comment
on
everything.
If
you
don't
feel
like
you
have
something
that
you
particularly
want
to
add
to
improve
the
policy
just
to
clarify
that
and
give
that
perspective,
because
this
is
one
step
in
a
very
long
road.
D
Right,
I
agree,
I
think
it's
our
collective
comments
that
that
are
most
important
and
I'm
I'm
with
you.
Susan
I
mean
there.
Are
there
were
things
on
there
that
you
know
I
didn't
dive
into
didn't
catch
my
eye,
and
I
just
said
you
know,
as
a
committee,
there
will
be
others
who
know
better
than
me
karina.
What
about
you
did
you
know?
Are
there
things
other
than
your
comments
that
you
want
to
delve
into
at
all.
D
I
I
I
B
D
D
F
D
You
know
it's,
it's
not
the
end
of
the
world
if
we
have
to
continue
this
to
the
next
meeting
and
that
give
that
would
give
wendy
more
time,
but
we
could
spend
the
rest
of
the
time
that
we
have
here
at
least
starting.
You
know
I
would
hate
to
not
make
an
attempt
to
get
through
what
we
can
until
you
have
to
leave.
So
why
don't
we
do
that.
F
G
F
I'm
glad
that
we
had
the
input
from
our
community
members
before
we
went
on
to
discussing
this,
because
I
feel
the
same
with
the
l
street
corridor,
I
would
hate
to
lose
it.
So
I
kind
of
think
we
need
to
deliberate
that
a
little
bit
deeper.
Perhaps
because
I
I
said
I
I
feel
the
same,
it
would
be
a
shame
to
take
it
away,
but
I'm
not
sure
what
we're
putting
in
its
place
exactly
yet
either.
I'm
sure
that
that
would
be
in
the
document.
If
I
dug
deeper.
D
Yeah,
I
think,
on
the
page,
the
70s
are
there.
The
pages
in
the
70s,
I
believe,
are
the
diagrams
that
show
the
the
cross
section,
and
I
think
that
was
something
that
una
made
mention
to
and
if
people
haven't
been
looking
at,
that
it'll
show
that
the
trail
isn't
going
away.
It's
just
going
to
be
there's
going
to
be
addition
additional
road,
maybe
a
landscaping
strip
I
mean
maybe
dlo
could
pull
it
up,
but
I
don't.
I
don't
know
that
we
need
to
see
it,
but
it
would.
D
D
D
So
yeah,
if
you
look
at
the
the
one
below
the
the
box,
that
has
the
word
alternative
in
it.
I
believe
I
believe,
there's
a
couple
alternatives,
but
the
trail
the
trail
stays
and
quite
possibly
they
even
modify
it
a
little,
and
maybe
I
don't
know
if
it
gets
widened.
I
can't
read
those
dimensions
but
yeah.
So
so,
if
that
helps
you
some.
B
D
We
don't
we
wouldn't
have
to.
We
could
continue
and
I
kind
of
wanted
to
get
started
and
see.
You
know
how
this
is
going
to
go
and
how
many
actual
items
we
have
currently
where
so,
let
me
go
back
to
karina.
I'd
asked
her
about
how
many,
because
I've
only
got.
Maybe
three
myself,
even
though
I
made
seven
eight
nine
comments
like
I
said,
seven
of
them
relate
to
the
same
thing
so
karina.
How
many
did
you
have.
D
B
D
B
B
B
E
B
E
D
The
only
thing
that
I
would
to
that
is,
I
mean
again,
I
I'll
just
say
I
didn't
read
word
for
word
the
110
page
document,
but
I
believe
that
the
flavor
of
it
is
that
it
is
encouraging
those
things
that
you're
encouraging
karina.
So
I
guess
maybe
you
didn't
find
it
sufficient
in
the
rest
of
the
document
that
it
makes
that
that
point.
E
D
Yeah,
just
just
to
go
on
the
record
on
on
a
similar
note,
because
it's
going
to
come
up
again,
I
think
the
term
used
is
that,
with
the
anticipated
increased
circulation
k
street
is
going
to
be
congested.
I'm
going
to
start
using
instead
of
congested,
I'm
going
to
use
the
term.
It's
a
becomes
a
slowdown
zone.
Congested
has
a
has
a
sense
to
it
in
traffic
that
that's
a
bad
thing.
D
D
D
F
E
F
E
D
A
D
H
Are
there
are
there
what?
What
are
the
routes
to
school?
Are
there
ways
that
a
ten-year-old
could
ride
a
bicycle
safely
to
the
school?
Are
the
buses
going
to
be
coming
through?
I
mean
I
think
that
that
if
you're
going
to
really
increase
the
population
and
if
you're
going
to
have
young
families,
then
you
have
to
make
it
really
clear
that
you're
thinking
about
kids
getting
to
school,
because
otherwise
the
the
single
occupancy
vehicle
and
the
chaos
that
I
see
near
near
my
house
is,
is
going
to
really
clog
up.
That
area.
H
Oh,
I
have
I
karina,
I
know
all
of
that,
but
I
also
know
people
who
have
a
child
in
daycare
and
they
have
a
child
in
preschool
and
they
have
somebody
in
second
grade,
and
I
hear
them
get
to
work
and
and
their
life
is
very
complicated
and
I
think
we
have
to
we
have
to.
If
we're
going
to
have
four
stories
worth
of
apartments
of
people
here,
we
have
to
somehow
make
it
really
easy
for
those
people
to
be
comfortable
about
their
kids,
getting
to
school.
B
D
D
D
E
D
E
G
D
B
Yeah
yeah,
no
yeah
for
sure,
okay,
one
other
quick
question
is
dave
ryan.
You
dropped
this
like
bomb
with
your
comment
in
this
policy.
Do
you
want
to
hash
out
l
and
k
in
this
meeting?
Do
you
I'm
assuming
we
might
be
moving
to
a
special
meeting?
Would
you
like
to
go
through
some
of
the
more
straightforward
ones
and
leave
the
couplet
for
a
future
meeting
or
talk
about
the
couplet
now
and
see
where
we
land.
D
B
And
david
did
want
to
let
you
know
as
well
that,
in
terms
of
the
kl
couplet,
what
that
would
likely
mean
would
not
be
an
update
to
the
actual,
like
detailed
policy,
language
and
kind
of
word.
Smithing
like
we're
doing
here,
but
instead
would
be
more
in
that
table.
He
showed,
with
kind
of
different
committees
and
commissions,
recommending
sort
of
various
strategies
to
the
council.
D
All
right
that
that
makes
sense
as
long
as
yeah
we
don't
have
to
go
through
and
change
every
single
one,
but
I
it's
just
going
to
be
inconsistent
if,
at
some
point
we,
if
this
recommendation
was
to
become
approved
by
the
committee,
it
would
just
be
nice
to
say
even
if
with
a
footnote
or
something
you
know
also
affects
these
other
items
potentially
and
absolutely
call
it
footnote
a
or
something
like
that.
So
yeah.
We
can
move
on
to
other
people's
because
and
see
where
we
get.
B
G
B
E
D
B
B
D
So
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
if
there
was
a
comment
that
just
says,
you
know,
recommend,
recommend,
metered
parking
or
encourage.
You
know
consider
something
like
this:
encourage
metered
parking
with
proceeds
to
be
spent
back
in
the
in
the
gateway
or
something
like
that
or
in
the
neighborhoods
yeah
back
in.
I
D
D
G
I'm
still
here
yeah.
I
know
I
think,
on
the
last
one
to
encourage
major
parking
with
proceeds,
reinvest
in
gateway
park,
a
gateway
area.
Just
maybe
we
wanted
to
give
you
some
heads
up
and
background
on
that
we
had
tried
this
in
the
past.
Like
you
know,
proceeding
from
special
area
from
parking
goes
to
specific
area.
It
was
not
successful.
I
think
it
has
some.
I
G
B
H
Right,
no,
that
that
was
I
I
put
it
in
there.
It
could
be,
it
could
be
mentioned
in
lots
of
places,
but
that
seemed
an
obvious
place.
I
I
looked
online.
I
could
not
find
bus
routes.
I
could
not
find
safe
routes
to
school
maps.
I
couldn't
find
anything
for
arcata
that
I
could
overlay
with
the
gateway
area
to
see
where
the
conflicts
would
be,
and
so
it
would
be
nice
if
they
were.
H
B
B
B
B
B
D
D
B
B
E
Oh,
I
don't
even
remember
what
I
was
riding
yeah
like
zip
cars
or
some
such
because
sometimes
you
do
need
to
make
a
longer
trip
and
it's
the
car
is
more
convenient,
but
the
nice
thing
about
a
ride
chair
is
you
don't
have
to
own
it.
The
other
98
of
the
time
so
yeah
card
share
car
share.
Rideshare
bike
share.
D
C
C
I
tried
for
about
two
years
to
get
zipcar
to
get
back
in
touch
with
me
and
we're
just
too
small
a
market
for
them,
but
we
did
finally
reach
out
to
a
project-based
car
share
company
that
said
that
their
platform
is
pretty
flexible
and
could
be
used
more
like
a
zipcar
public
car
sheriff
if
desired
and
they're
very
interested
in
moving
into
our
market.
So
that
is
definitely
going
to
be
one
of
the
you
know
one
of
the
amenities
in
the
form
based
code,
and
we
can.
C
I
C
C
D
B
E
B
D
I
don't
know
if
it'll
be
when
we
get
to
the
eighth
and
ninth
street
project,
it's
one
of
those
crazy
things
that
quickly
gets
dismissed
from
discussion,
because
people
go.
Oh,
it's
just
too
costly
and
that's
crazy
and
you're.
Talking
about
putting
a
bridge,
I
mean
even
the
fickle
hill
road
crossing
that
they're
working
on
for
the
ridge
trail.
D
And
of
course,
you
know
they.
They
support
l
street,
which
I
can
you
know
talk
about
it
another
time.
They
think
that
you
know.
If
you
make
k
street
better,
you
know
that's
it's
going
to
be
easier
to
cross,
but
I
just
envisioned
something
that
people
can
get
across
k
street.
That
goes
over
it,
whether
you're
on
a
bike,
whether
you're
walking
and
there
needs
to
be
an
east-west
route
in
arcata.
To
do
that,
so
I
thought
we
need
a
bridge,
it's
just
something.
D
D
E
D
Encourage
you
know,
consideration
of
creative
and
imaginative
new
ways
to
develop
safe
crossings.
You
know
I
mean
I
I
kind
of
tend
to
agree
with
with
wendy.
That's
why
I
came
up
with
a
bridge.
You
know
a
zip
line.
No,
I
you
know
there's
just
we
need
to
think
out
of
the
box
and
if
we
don't
put
something
in
there
to
come
up,
I
mean
I
guess,
they're
always
trying
to
think
of
new
and
creative
ways,
but
so
I'm
I'm
happy
to
drop
the
bridge
I
do
I
can.
D
I
E
E
C
So
I
think
that's
a
that's
the
concept,
that's
not
very
okay,
clearly
worded
right
there.
I
think
that
that
that
could
be,
you
know,
could
be
a
better
word.
The
idea
behind
this
policy
is
that,
instead
of,
for
example,
having
you
know,
a
front
setback
be
dedicated
to
landscaping
or
some
other
purpose
like
that,
that
we
would
add
it
to.
C
You
know
the
public
sphere.
So,
instead
of
having
five
foot
sidewalks,
we
could
maybe
have
you
know
10
foot
sidewalks
with
you
know,
with
a
five-foot
setback
instead
of
having
a
five-foot
sidewalk
and
then
a
fence
that
says,
keep
off
my
property
and
then
a
lawn
behind
that
or
something
like
that.
So
we'll
we'll
refine
this
language.
I
do
see
the
source
of
the
confusion
and
I'll
we'll
definitely
update
that.
E
I
I
C
That's
not
what
I'm
talking
about.
I'm
talking
about
on-street
parking
that
shouldn't
have
said:
off-street
parking,
the
the
intent
here
is
to
allow
the
use
of
private
land
for
public
purposes
to
create
space
for
those
public
purposes
that
we
don't
have
additional
right-of-way
that
we
can
use,
and
so
in
areas
where
you
know,
as
with
the
sorrow
place
project
it
was
constrained,
there
was
no
way
to
add
on-street
parking
in
the
existing
configuration
with
the
existing
standards.
C
B
These
two
had
comments
that
were
kind
of
carried
over
from
the
january
meeting,
not
a
specific
comment
that
was
submitted,
both
comments
being
the
same,
consider
off-site
and
shared
parking
amenities.
Is
there
a
desire
from
the
committee
to
modify
either
of
these
either
parking
standards
or
parking
lot
locations
in
line
with
this
comment.
D
H
C
D
I
C
P
D
D
The
reason
I
think
it's
important
to
have
businesses
on
the
bottom
floors
of
street
frontage
is
that
people
don't
always
have
to
leave
their
community.
You
know
to
go
to
go
elsewhere
and
I
think
this
this
whole
plan
speaks
to
it.
I
just
didn't
see
it
in
here
to
where
you
can
minimize
vehicle
trips
of
leaving
the
area.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
there's
somewhere
else
in
the
plan
without
me
having
to
go
through
and
find
it.
D
Yeah-
and
I
guess
the
other
thing
is-
is
if,
if
it's
a
menu
item
or
a
choice
for
them
to
do
that,
you
can't
necessarily
require
everybody
to
do
it,
but
I'm
just
wondering
is,
as
things
grow
through
the
years
and
you're,
not
getting
people
picking
certain
things
from
the
menu.
Do
you
you
know
you
have
to
start
requiring
it
of
others
or
if
you
get
enough
early
on,
are
you
able
to
drop
it
off
from
requiring
it
of
others?
Does
that
question
make
sense.
C
C
C
Having
said
that,
I
will
say
that
there
are
certain
areas
within
the
plan
area
that
are
going
to
be
prime
for
ensuring
that
there
are
some
some
you
know
some
ground
floor,
commercial
or
retail
or
or
industry
of
some
type
and
they're
gonna
be
provisions
for
for
requiring
that
in
certain
cases,
but
just
not
you
know
writ
large
transitioning
to
the
amenities
you're
exactly
right.
You
know,
if
you
leave
it
to
the
open
market,
everyone
is
going
to
pick
the
simplest,
cheapest
fastest
amenity,
and
so
we've
got
two
structures.
C
The
one
that's
been
in
there
from
the
beginning,
which
is
to
have
an
amenities
list
that
tiers
the
amenities,
and
so
you
have
to
you
have
to
pull
for
your
humidity
package.
You
have
to
pull
from
each
of
the
different
tiers.
Some
things
are
going
to
be
more
expensive
and
a
bigger
contribution.
Some
things
are
going
to
be
relatively
easy
for
a
project
to
do
and
be
less
expensive
and
then
delo.
When
she
was
thinking
about
this,
she
had
the
exact
same
concern
that
you
did
about.
C
You,
you
buy
a
bundle,
so
you
get
a
bundle
within
the
tiers,
but
we
may
only
have
five
bundles
that
have
say
tot
lot
on
them,
and
so
once
those
five
top
lots
are
built
out
into
the
community,
because
five
projects
selected
that
package
tot
lot
is
no
longer
one
of
the
options
for
future
developments,
and
so
it
really
does
ensure
that
the
the
distribution
of
the
amenities
that
we
ultimately
put
onto
that
list,
the
full
distribution
of
those
we
see
realized
in
the
community.
Now
there
may
be
certain
things.
C
B
I
You
know
you
get
this
issue
where
everything's
getting
paved
and
and
some
of
the
zoning
has
been
done.
Form-Based
zoning
to
to
specify
a
percentage
of
only
a
certain
percentage
of
the
property
could
be
has
to
can
be
paved
or
there's
the
ratio
of
that
space
because
you
get,
you
know
you
get
into
problems
with
heat,
you
get
into
problems
with
runoff,
and,
and
so
if
this
is
the
place
where
we
do
that
for
parking
lots,
I
would
suggest
we
put
something
like
that
in
here.
B
It
wasn't
confusing,
I
don't
think
I
think
I
was
just
thinking
through
in
my
mind
what
things
we
might
have
already
tools
in
our
tool
belt.
That
could
help.
I
mean
we
have
site
coverage,
you
know
which
is
a
standard.
You
know
everywhere
in
the
city,
which
is
basically
impermeable
surface
to
permeable
surface
ratio.
B
G
Standards
that
they
have
to
comply
with,
you
know
what
the
windy
you're
saying
is:
they're,
not
problems.
They
we
have
a
state
standard.
We
call
it
an
ms4
requirements
for
strong
water,
so
any
anytime
in
this
new
construction,
they
have
to
comply
with
certain
requirements
so
that
they
are
not
creating
additional
runoff.
So
there
is
already
standards
in
place
while
the
product
is
getting
built.
So
it
steps
that
way.
E
E
E
I
don't
know
if
anybody's
you've
been
in
there
and
we've
talked
about
this
david
sorrell
place,
put
their
bike
room
on
the
fourth
floor,
where
nobody
who
is
on
who
is
not
on
the
fourth
floor
will
ever
use
it.
When
I
thought
it
was
not
labeled,
so
I
don't
think
most
of
the
people
even
knew
it
was
there.
C
Yeah,
the
the
intent
is
to
incentivize.
You
know:
high
quality,
indoor
bike
storage.
The
energy
committee
pointed
out
that
that
should
also
have
access
for
electric
bikes
and,
and
the
idea
is
that
you
know
even
going
beyond
just
bike
storage
in
particular.
For
you
know,
for
commercial
uses
where
to
incentive
biking
you
you
would
also
need
to
have
you
know,
lockers
and
you
know,
and
showers
potentially,
so
that
people
can
bike
to
work
shower.
P
C
I
think
those
those
are
all
really
good
points,
so
I
mean
we
have
to.
We
have
to
have
a
high
quality
alternative
transportation
network
of
all
the
different
alternative
modes
in
order
to
support
alternative
transportation.
In
fact,
we
can't
just
have
little
bits
and
pieces.
Having
you
know,
the
greatest
bike
trails
in
the
entire
world
is
not
going
to
help
people
start
bike
commuting
if
they
don't
have
a
place
to
store
their
bike
when
they
get
to
their
destination.
D
B
Next
comment
here
back
to
karina,
emphasize
the
gateway
area
as
a
destination
with
outdoor
amenities.
I
do
think
you
know
some
of
the
existing
open
space
policies
likely
speak
to
this.
If
not
others,
we
can
also
consider
you
know
modifying
this
pedestrian
priority
policy.
To
speak
to
that.
If
the
committee
wants.
B
B
E
E
B
E
Yeah
bike,
lockers
bike
lockers
would
be
wonderful,
they're,
they're,
better
for
longer
term.
I
mean
the
toughest
kryptonite,
lock
it'll,
take
an
angle
grinder
like
three
or
four
minutes
to
get
through,
but
a
bland
blank
rectangle
that
may
have
a
five
thousand
dollar
carbon.
Wonder
bike
or
or
a
twenty
dollar
department
store,
trashed
out
bike
or
nothing.
E
G
G
I
C
I
think
well,
with
the
I
mean,
we're
kind
of
getting
into
the
weeds
here
in
terms
of
like
where
these
things
would
be
located,
but
I
think
that
you
know
having
bike
lockers
at
bus
stops
may
be
in
conflict
with
other
okay
pedestrian-oriented
uses
that
the
sidewalks
are
intended
for,
but
there
there
could
be.
You
know.
E
P
D
G
Yeah-
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
sending
the
right
message-
I'm
not
saying
no
to
bike
lockers.
It
needs
to
be
in
location
where
people
will
be
storing
that
for
long
for
a
long
term
on
specific
locations
like
a
transit
center
or
maybe
some
apartment,
building
near
the
bus
stop
or
specific
instead
of
a
car
parking,
it
should
be
a
bike
parking
area
where
people
will
be
using
it
yeah
apartment.
Definitely
I
am
agreeing.
C
H
Yeah
I've
always
mentioned
this.
I've
mentioned
this
a
couple
of
times
before
and
I
just
didn't
know
which
box.
To
put
it
in
so
same
same
comment,
I'm
really
concerned
about
young
families
and
young
children
whose
family
don't
have
a
car
and
they're
not
going
to
drop
them
off,
and
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
bus,
how
they're
going
to
get
to
school.
C
F
H
G
Fine,
so
that
has
to
be
done
in
partnership
with
the
school,
so
there
is
already
a
school
in
the
gateway
area
and
it
has
to
be
done
in
a
partnership
with
the
school
when
we
do
a
safer
to
school
projects.
We
work
with
the
school
and
we
create
a
safe
route
to
school,
for
the
kids
and
where
the
stop
location
is
where
the
pickup
location
is
so
it's
specific
to
the
school.
It's
not
for
the
whole
city.
It
will
be
specific
to
the
school
for
the
children
who
go
to
school.
G
Yeah
so
every
time
we
did
a
safe
after
school
project,
you
know
in
my
lifetime
in
the
city
I
have
done
two
safer
to
school
projects
and
in
both
them
we
worked
with
the
school
and
we
created
those
map
and
we
shared
with
the
school
and
they
provide
them
to
the
students
of
the
school.
I'm
not
sure
how
regularly
that
happens,
but
I
think
it's
a
good
point
and
we
should
check
with
them
and
how
regularly
they
are
updating
or
sharing
that
with
the
parents
and
the
students.
H
Yeah
I
went
to
the
hcog
website
and
and
searched
safe
routes
to
school,
and
that's
the
the
web
address
that
I
put
in
here
and
there
wasn't
anything
for
arcata.
So
if
I
were
a
parent
with
young
children
who
was
considering
moving
to
to
an
apartment
in
the
gateway
area,
I
would
not
have
had
easy
access
to
that.
I
don't
know
where
else
I
would
have
looked
for
it.
I.
G
Think
that
is
a
very
good
point
and
it's
a
valid
point
and
we
should
definitely
work
on
that.
It
used
to
be
a
very
active
group
and
I
remember
going
to
some
meetings
at
the
county
level
and
we
used
to
meet
once
a
month
if
our
to
school,
but
it's
been
last
three
or
four
years.
We
have
not
done
that
meeting.
So
it's
a
good
point
and
we
should
definitely
address
that.
At
least
we
should
put
that
in
our
city
website
that
at
least
not
only
at
cogs,
yeah.
D
So
folks,
I'm
going
to
make
a
a
suggestion
that
we
adjourn
here
pretty
soon
because
I'm
losing
steam-
and
I
don't
want
to
continue
with
something
this
important
with
people
needing
to
get
on
with
their
evenings.
So
I'm
going
to
suggest
we
pick
this
up
at
our
next
meeting
right
where
we're
leaving
off
and
just
want
to
see
what
the
other
committee
members
think
of
that.
D
No,
I
we're
not
done
because
we
haven't
talked
about
l
street
and
I'm
not
going
to
talk
about
it
at
the
tell
end.
It's
like
you've
just
been
driving
from
san
francisco
and
you're,
almost
home
and
now
you're
going
to
talk
about
l
street.
So
regardless
I'm
going
to
suggest
we
adjourn
before
we
get
to
that.
So
we're
not
going
to
finish
tonight.
G
Well
I'll,
let
me
see
what
is
the
need
of
you
know
your
project.
I
know
you're
going
to
tight
time
frame
and
tight
schedule
and
you
have
scheduled
meetings
and
you
have
to
produce
certain
documents
and
certain
times
so
what
works
best
for
for
this
project
to
move
along?
I
think
that
what
we
will
do
if
we
need
to
have
a
special
meeting,
we'll
definitely
work
with
tse
and
we'll
do
a
special
meeting
in
next
two
weeks.
I
definitely
need
to
see
their
schedule,
but
it's
doable
I'll.
G
Maybe
let
dave
ryan
make
that
call,
but
if
it's
that
warranty
to
have
a
special
meeting,
definitely
we
will
do
next
meeting
is
on
august
16th,
which
is
not
that
far
away,
I
would
say-
and
we
have
other
items
also
like,
I
believe,
the
general
time
transportation
limit
will
be
coming,
maybe
potentially
in
august
meetings.
So
it
will
take
time
as
well.
So
I
think
it's
worth
considering
special
meeting
for
to
complete
at
least
this
portion
of
the
meeting,
and
that
we
are.
C
I
think
the
you
know,
I'm
gonna
leave
it
to
the
committee
to
decide.
You
know
how
they
want
to
run
the
timing.
I'm
not
going
to
be
here
on
the
16th,
but
that's
not
as
important
as
you
know,
the
committee
being
there,
and
so
I
would.
I
would
suggest
you
leave
it
open.
If
you
can
find
a
special
meeting,
it
might
be
nice
to
carry
the
conversation
forward,
but
certainly
the
august
16th
is
you
know
soon
enough.
B
One
thing
I'll
add
to
that
is:
we
have
been
coordinating
with
ghd
and
they
requested
to
bring
the
circulation
element
of
the
general
plan
to
the
september
meeting
instead
of
the
august.
They
don't
think
they'll
make
it
in
time,
so
that
would
maybe
free
up
some
additional
time
at
the
next
regular
meeting.
D
And
I
would
entertain
something
in
a
couple
of
weeks
and
again,
maybe
on
a
tuesday,
since
we've
all
already
made
our
tuesdays
available
for
this
once
a
month.
I
don't
think
we
need
to
set
a
date
or
make
it
happen
right
here
and
now
maybe
we
could
determine
via
emails
to
the
committee
members
after
they
have
a
chance
to
look
at
their
schedules
to
see
we
could
throw
out
a
couple
of
dates.
D
D
D
I
G
Okay,
so
for
now
dave
as
you
ask-
maybe
let's
shoot
for
august
2nd
and
we
will
send
email
to
mishka
and
missile
and
see
if
they
are
available
and
then
if
they
are
then
we'll
just
plan
for
august
2nd
tentatively
for
now,
if
that
doesn't
work,
then
we
will
explore
other
options
so
for
now,
let's
plan
for
august
2nd
to
continue
this
item.
Okay.
So
let's
make
a
motion
to
continue
this
item.
I
believe
I
think
we
have
never
done
this,
but
I
believe
that's
the
way
to
do
it.