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Description
Batch 2 July 21 Economic Development Committee Special Meeting
A
All
right
well
welcome
to
this.
The
July
21st
special
special
edition,
our
special
meeting
to
talk
about
the
Gateway
area
project,
we'll
start
with
the
roll
call,
I'm
Serge,
Mahalo
I'm
here
and
who
knows
hi
I'm.
Here,
president
lovely
Travis
kuna,
who
I
guess
is
hopefully
going
to
join
later
but
is
not
present.
A
B
Yet
that's
fine,
too,
but
if
we
could
do
it
that
way,
I
kind
of
think
that
then
we
can
narrow
it
down
and
start
to
go
through
some
of
these
individually
and
if
I
had
gotten
a
lot
of
responses
back.
What
I
had
anticipated
doing
is
just
narrowing
it
down
that
way,
so
that
I
could
put
those
into
the
proposed
modification
and-
and
we
could
kind
of
go
through
them
one
by
one.
B
A
And
I
just
want
to
be
real,
clear,
Jen,
just
so
we're
all
on
on
the
really
same
page
and
we
can
be
streamlined
in
focused
the
whole.
The
point
of
this
meeting
is
so
that
we
make
a
recommendation
on
the
Gateway
area
plan.
Essentially,
what
we
would
do
is
either
say
that
we
recommend
the
plan
in
its
current
form
on
on
these
items
or
B.
We
recommend
that
we
put
these
changes
in,
which
is
the
form
that
you're
talking
about
yep
and
I.
A
Okay,
I
just
wanted
to
be
clear
about
that
and
is
Jen.
Do
you
wanna
I?
Guess
everybody's
got
a
chance
to
see
The
Forum
that
we're
talking
about
because
I
was
I
was
it
is
good,
but
I
was
confused
at
first
too
I
read
so
much
stuff,
but
that's.
The
ultimate
goal
is
to
put
our
recommendations
on
that
form
and.
D
B
Like
yeah
I
can
share
your
screen
just
to
orient
you
to
the
right
form,
okay.
So
this
is
the
form
that
I'm
talking
about
that
I
sent
over
and
it
kind
of
had
some
of
our
general
comments
up
here
and
then
it
had.
You
know
where
you
can
find
each
of
the
policies
and
page
numbers
there,
and
then
this
is
where
you
would
fill
out
your
proposed
modifications.
B
So
the
idea
is,
if
you
have
hopefully
had
a
chance
to
look
through
this,
if
you
could
each
come
up
with
and
and
think
this
through
a
little
bit
come
up
with
your
top
two
and
focusing,
of
course,
on
economic
development.
Since
that's
what
our
committee
is
about,
because
this
is
going
to
each
of
the
Committees
so
I
that
I
really
reiterated
that
I
think
in
the
email,
just
making
sure
that
you
know
that
we
understand
that
we
want
to
stay
on
topic
focusing
on
economic
development,
because
that's
our
that's!
B
C
C
Like
dining
and
things
like
that-
and
you
know
those
aren't
really
the
the
kind
of
necessarily
the
sort
of
job
creation
that
needs
encouragement.
We
have
a
lot
of
retail
space,
that's
empty
in
our
in
our
city
and
maybe
some
building
in
of
different
kinds
of
job
opportunities
that
there's
accommodating
digital
careers,
with
co-work
space
or
higher
quality
office
space,
to
encourage
the
way
that
you
know
those
those
kind
of
occupations,
the
infrastructure
that
they
need
or
light
industrial
maker
spaces
incubators.
B
C
First
of
all,
once
again,
assigning
weights
on
a
community
benefits
rubric,
defining
what
kind
of
maybe
Tech
Assistance
or
further
like
pre-definition
of
Pathways,
including
you
know,
Innovative,
financing
mechanisms
and
the
Partnerships.
That
would
be
needed
to
just
help
that
you
know
help
anyone
who
might
be
inclined
to
put
something
like
that
forward.
Get
get
the
things
in
place
that
they
would
need,
because
I
think
what
we've
seen
in
communities
across
this
country
that
you
know
without
support,
Beyond
encouragement.
B
D
D
Looking
at
5
000
new
people
coming
in
from
out
of
the
area
they
aren't
going
to
fly
here
on
their
own
they're,
gonna
drive
and
they're
gonna
have
cars,
whether
you
like
it
or
you,
don't
and
they're
going
to
park
in
every
available
parking
space
from
here
to
Eureka
and
so
I'm,
not
sure
where
exactly
that
falls
into
this
I
mean
in
like
specifics,
because
it's
literally
I
did
a
search.
It's
meant
parking
is
mentioned
like
63
times,
and
it's
listed
as
a
challenge.
D
B
D
I'm
not
sure
because
I
mean
I,
don't
know
whether
to
go
through
each
one
of
these
things,
I
mean
you
know.
My
intention
here
is
to
be
constructive.
I
don't
want
to
throw
darts
I,
it's
something
that
the
entire
plan
has
like
built.
The
idea
I
mean
there's
Road
layouts
and
all
of
these,
like
10-foot
sidewalks.
That
I
mean
I,
don't
know
how
crowded
we're
gonna
have
Arts
alive
every
day
or
something,
but.
B
E
F
F
You
know,
you're
gonna
need
parking
for
those
uses
and
then,
in
addition,
one
of
the
concepts
that's
come
up
through
this
process
is
to
have
you
know,
parking
structures
at
certain
nodes
so
that
the
district
overall
could
be
more
car
free,
so
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out
there
just
to
let
you
know
it's
not
like
there's
no
parking
in
this
entire
District,
but
the
emphasis
is
on
alternative
modes.
We
have
50
years
of
emphasis
on
standard
modes
and
so
trying
to
do
a
little
course
correction
there.
F
But
then
the
other
thing
was
more
of
a
process
item.
What
might
be
best
is,
if
you
all
get
your
main
idea,
like
the
thing
that
you
want
to
talk
about,
just
get
that
on
the
table,
and
then
we
can
go
through
and
get
into
the
detail
of
them
after
everybody's
is
on
the
table
and
we
can
kind
of
weigh
in
on
which
ones
we
want
to
take
on
first,
just
a
thoughtful
process.
Obviously
it's
totally
up
to
the
committee
how
you
want
to
handle
that.
B
D
I
just
I
mean
I
think
it's
a
massive
issue
in
this,
but
it
and
it's
not
people
who
are
coming
from
out
of
the
area.
It's
students
driving
across
town
people
going
to
work.
People
working
in
these,
like
you,
know,
you're,
going
to
encourage
these
businesses
they're
going
to
need
employees.
Employees
need
to
show
up
on
time
riding
their
bike
and
being
soaking
wet
is
not
really
going
to
cut
it.
D
People
are
going
to
drive,
and
so
we
either
need
a
very,
very
well
thought
out,
and
there
are
toxic,
very
vague
discussions
of
mobility
and
the
possibility
of
this
and
the
possibility
of
that.
But
in
between
here
and
the
possibility
or
the
possibility
and
the
reality
is
a
whole
lot
of
people
driving
cars
and
it's.
It
is
going
to
be
massively
impactful
in
all
the
surrounding
neighborhoods
to
the
point
where
it
will
change
the
character
of
them.
I
would
think
rather
dramatically
go
to
a
Crabs
game.
I
mean
people
park
at
a
re-abillable
spot.
B
C
I,
don't
I
don't
want
to
go,
you
know,
I,
don't
want
to
go
head
to
head,
but
maybe
this
will
be
like
a
way
to
for
us
to
on
a
process
level
figure
out
how
to
get
you
know
diverging
viewpoints
and
into
and
reconcile
them
into
our
recommendations.
You
know,
I
think
that
first
of
all,
parking
mandates
on
building
drives
up
costs,
which
once
again,
is
an
anathema
to
providing
affordable
housing.
C
So
that's
kind
of
a
counter
View
and
then
the
second
one
would
be
that
there
are
three
between
three
and
eight
parking
spots
for
every
car
in
America.
That's
what
those
you
know.
50
years
of
primary
modalities
have
gotten
us,
and
this
is
how
we
start
to
move
away
from
that,
so
maybe
finding
some
way
that
we
can
incorporate
both
viewpoints
when
we
decide
to
pin
down
what
our
formal
recommendations
are
going
to
be,
but
in
the
meantime
yeah
I'll
just
and
there,
so
we
can
figure
out
what
our
process
should
be.
B
So,
there's
another
way
that
we
can
do
this.
That
I
think
this
is
kind
of
why
why
I
was
suggesting
that
we
each
go
through
and
give
our
top
two
or
three?
And
maybe
it's
not
a
policy
or
a
specific
policy?
Maybe
it
is
an
overall
concern.
We
could
also
go
ahead
and
get
that
all
out
there
and
then
go
through
as
a
group
and
do
a
straw
poll
where
everybody
says:
okay,
parking
concerns
have
come
up.
D
Fair
enough
I'll
move
it
on.
Second,
one
is
economic
assistance,
I
I,
what
I
don't
see
in
here
and
maybe
I
missed
it,
but
is
active
engagement
of
assistance
to
businesses
to
encourage
Business
Development,
you
know
build
it
and
they
will
come,
doesn't
work
so
it
just
like
getting
you
know.
Economic
Development
foreign
I
mean
something
something
that
says
businesses
call
here.
These
are
these.
D
Are
your
resources,
things
that
facilitate
and
grease
the
skids
to
encourage
the
Business
Development,
because
Arcata
has
a
reputation
of
being
fairly
business
unfriendly
at
times,
I've
heard
that
more
than
once
so
I
think
something
that
lowers
that
barrier,
something
that
says
hey
we
actually
do
want.
Your
business
will
will.
B
Help
so
we
are
going
to
be
working
on
the
economic
development
strategic
plan,
so
that
I
think
maybe
would
fall
more
under
that
particular
plan.
I
will
put
I'll
put
it
on
here,
but
I'm
just
throwing
that
out
there
too.
Just
so.
Everybody
is
aware,
like
that,
we've
we're
applying
for
a
grant
to
update
that
plan
and
really
dig
into
that
plan.
B
D
B
D
D
B
D
D
F
Yeah
yeah
again
it'd
be
great
to
get
everything
out
on
the
table:
real,
quick
and
then
what
I'm
thinking
is
that
you
know
we
can
take
as
you
get
through
the
discussions,
and
you
find
the
items
that
you
all
want
to
discuss
or
majority
of
you
want
to
discuss,
and
then
you
vote
on
those
things
and
say:
okay.
Well,
here's
the
here's,
the
general
topic.
We
don't
have
to
have
specific
language
right
now.
F
In
fact,
I
would
discourage
us
from
spending
this
time
crafting
language
and
trying
to
you
know
you
know,
refine
policy,
that's
already
there
or
create
new
policy,
because
what
we
can
do
is
once
we
have
a
general
direction
from
the
you
know,
the
committee,
you
know
if
it's
the
the
body
of
policy
that
we'll
be
integrating
into
the
document
right
away.
You
know
we
can
work
on
that
language.
If
it's
a
body
of
policy,
that's
going
to
go
into
the
table
that
the
the
council
will
later
select.
F
You
know
policy
conflicting
policies
from
then
once
the
council
says
okay.
Well,
we
want
to
have
a
policy
about
this.
Then
then,
we'd
spend
the
time
to
craft
that
policy,
so
so
I
guess
my
recommendation
is
that
you
know
if
you
get
the
ideas
on
the
table,
you
have
a
robust
discussion
about
that.
You
talk
about
where
there's
missing
policy
in
the
document
now
or
where
the
policy
and
the
document
now
can
be
improved
and
then
hand
that
over
to
staff
and
we'll
we'll
craft
the
policy
language
that
reflects
your
discussion.
B
A
All
right,
I
think
I
understand
what
David's
saying
is
that
maybe
we're
going
too
far
in
depth
with
the
language
and
stuff
like
that?
Maybe
it
would
be
better
if
we
use
this
time
to
kind
of
get
our
general
two
or
three
big
topics
that
we
really
want
to
talk
about
and
see,
crafted
more
just
get
those
out
on
the
table.
I
think
is
maybe
the
more
the
point
Linda.
Do
you
have
your
hand
red.
G
Yeah
I
hope
I'm
unmuted.
Can
you
guys
hear
me?
Yep
I
can
hear
you
I'm
just
terrible
with
technical
stuff,
anyway,
yeah
I
I
kind
of
wanted
to
Second
what
some
of
the
things
Walt
was
talking
about,
and
also
Amanda
I
I
know
that
I
and
and
Serge
you
were
just
mentioning
language
and
so
was
David
I
guess
a
lot
of
my
questions
when
I
turned
in
that
stuff
were
related
to
clarification
of
the
language
and
I
I.
G
Don't
know
I
felt
like
it
was
yeah
that
we're
all
like
on
the
same
page
about
what
the
language
is.
What
that
means
when
like
like
Amanda
was
mentioning
you
know
encouraging
businesses,
what
does
that
actually
mean,
and
so
I'm
I'm
kind
of
a
little
bit
in
the
mode
of
wanting
to
clarify
some
language,
to
be
able
to
make
some
of
those
recommendations,
but
I
understand
we
only
have
a
short
amount
of
time
but
related
to
my
seconding.
G
G
G
G
B
And
I
think
again
that
one
I
would
point
back
to
the
potentially
highlighting
something
like
that
in
the
economic
development
strategic
plan
over
the
overall
instead
of
just
for
the
Gateway,
but
it
is
mentioned
in
that
one
policy
I
think
that
you
had
identified
and
so
yeah.
It's
definitely
a
good
question,
but
I
think
for
this
plan.
But
I
can
do
you
want
me
to
put
that
up
here
on
the
list?
I
did
put
Ada
accessibility,
yeah,
I,
guess.
G
H
Well,
Linda
and
Walter:
they
are
released
a
couple
of
important
issues
and
then
one
other
thing
you
know
when
I'm
going
through
this
plan
is
I,
don't
see
like
a
lot
of
incentive,
for
you
know
participants.
So
this
is
all
voluntary.
You
know,
I
mean
the
city
cannot
force
anyone
to
build
something
or
do
something
well,
if
I'm
a
resident
and
in
that
area,
what
is
my
incentive,
how
the
city
encouraged?
What
are
the
benefits
for
the
business?
So
what
is
a
city?
H
We
are
doing
to
encourage
the
participants
to
come
up
with
a
better
outcome.
Otherwise
you
know
it's
just
a
plan
doesn't
have
any
incentive
doesn't
promote
business
opportunities.
Are
we
giving
any
tax
incentive?
Are
we
giving
any
other
incentive?
What
is
the
plan
with
the
city
to
encourage
people
being
the
part
of
the
plan?
H
D
H
H
B
H
H
H
F
I
F
So
that's
you
know
that
is
a
huge
incentive,
I
heard
I
think
you're
talking
about
and
I
think
Walt
was
talking
about
this
earlier
too
about
you
know
we
need
to
develop
programs
like
you
know,
tax
incentives
for
businesses
to
move
here
and
that
sort
of
thing-
and
you
know
historically,
the
city
has
not
done
that.
Historically,
the
city
has
not
looked
towards.
You
know
relocating
a
business.
F
In
fact,
we
have
many
of
our
programs
that
require
that
we
don't
pirate
jobs,
that
we
don't
take
jobs
away
from
another
jurisdiction
and
we've
been
really
focused
on.
You
know,
sort
of
doing
the
Homegrown.
You
know
local
business
support,
but
I
I
totally
agree
with
both
you
and
Walton
that
you
know
as
as
our
community
grows.
As
you
know,
we
take
advantage
of
things
like
you
know,
the
you
know
the
the
cable
Landing
that's
come
to
our
community
as
we
take
advantage
of
the
major
industries
that
are,
you
know
coming
forward.
F
You
know,
potentially
the
aquaculture,
the
you
know
the
wind
farm,
all
of
these
things
that
are
happening
right
now.
The
expansion
of
Cal
Poly.
All
of
those
things
are
going
to
converge
and
really
create
a
you
know.
A
new
Dynamic
and
I
I
do
think
that
you
know
we
can
leverage
our
existing
incentives,
that
we
have
incentive
programs
and
really
looked
at
develop
new
ones.
So
so
I
guess
what
I
would
say
an
answer
to
all
of
that.
F
F
Don't
see
a
lot
in
in
this
document
that
talks
about
other
Industries,
we
can
definitely
clarify
that
language
because
we
really
are
looking
for
market-driven
development
to
happen
here
so,
instead
of
specifying
I
think
we
highlighted
you
know
these.
These
retail
uses
or
restaurant
uses,
because
we're
emphasizing
the
Gateway
as
a
place
to
be
the
Gateway
has
at
the
very
center
of
it.
The
the
creamery
district
and
at
the
center
of
that
creamy
district
is
the
creamery
building
which
has
a
thriving
arts
and
culture.
F
You
know
thing
going
on
already,
so
so
putting
a
magnifying
glass
on
all
of
that
and
creating
a
framework
that
allows
those
businesses
to
have
maximal
flexibility
in
an
area
where
you
know
they
would
be.
You
know
close
to
you
know.
Vibrant
other
uses
a
lot
of
the
times
if
you're
research
and
development
you're
out
in
some
business
park,
you
know
30
miles
away
from
anything
in
other
areas
of
the
state
we'd
love
to
see.
You
know,
as
was
mentioned
earlier,
research
and
development.
F
You
know
business
right
inside
of
a
mixed
use
right
next
to
the
you
know,
the
restaurant
and
the
little
coffee
shop
in
the
corner
and
Etc.
So
that's
where
the
incentives
come
in
and
then
I
do
want
to
Second
what
Jen
was
saying.
I
think
that
you
know
identifying
city-wide
incentives
in
the
economic
development
strategic
plan
would
be
a
great
place
to
go
with
this
as
well.
So
a
little
bit
of
all
I
think
a
little
bit
of
all
we
can.
H
H
So
now
we
are
expecting
we're
going
to
have
influx
of
5000
people
with
being
Cal
Poly
how
we
can
assure
the
resident
in
that
area.
That
is
still
there
is
going
to
be
a
demand
for
whatever
demand.
We
are
projecting
right
now,
so
that
some
kind
of
assurance,
if
that
doesn't
happen,
how
the
CD
you
know
is
going
to
address
those
concerns.
H
F
F
Setting
going
on
as
well,
and
so
you
know,
the
intent
of
the
the
plan
at
this
time
is
not
to
sort
of
gain
Theory
out
every
possibility,
it's
more
just
to
set
those
aspirations
now
and
then
reevaluate
over
time.
If
we
need
to
readjust
or
make
you
know,
changes
to
either
our
our
aspirations
or
changes
to
the
plan
so
that
we
can
hit
our
aspirations,
I
think
is
sort
of
what
what
the
goal
of
this
plan
is
so
I.
F
You
know,
I
hear
what
you're
saying,
but
I
don't
think
you
know
coming
up
with
a
scenario.
Planning
in
this
document
is
the
most
effective
way
to
to
address
your
concern.
I
think
the
best
way
to
address
your
concern
is,
to
you
know,
monitor
the
effectiveness
of
this
document
over
time
and
make
modifications
as
needed.
H
H
The
parking
issues-
and
these
are
the
issues,
definitely
should
be
addressed.
Yeah
definitely
I.
I
really
think
you
know.
The
incentive
plan
is
very
important
for
me
to
achieve
the
goal
to
encourage
the
people
and
that's
the
reason
I
it
is
that
other
then
other
than
that
I
think
I,
don't
have
any
other
concern
right
now.
D
So
I'm
never
shy.
So
a
couple
things
I
do
want
to
be
clear
about
one
thing
that
I
think
is
a
very
important
distinction
and
I.
Think
probably
you
know
to
David's
credit,
but
this
you
know
I
watched
the
presentation
that
was
given
about
you
know
what
this
spawns
from
right,
which
is
basically
to
say
the
state
saying
you
need
to
loosen
your
development
standards
so
that
people
actually
build
stuff
perfect.
D
So
this
is
really
designed
to
create
an
access
route
for
developers
to
build
and
to
create
a
zone
that
allows
them
a
lower
barrier
to
building
Amanda
mentioned.
You
know
that
the
on-site
parking
drives
up
costs,
I
get
it.
The
whole
idea
is
to
lower
the
cost
per
square
foot
so
that
developers
make
more
money
or
whoever
owns
the
property
can
make
more
money
or
we
live
better.
D
If
you
own
it
so
I
think
that
structural
difference
between
a
physical
building
and
the
activities
that
take
place
in
it
is
is
a
little
bit
of
the
the
the
we'll
see
bifurcation.
It's
not
the
right
word,
but
the
Divergence
I
think
in
intent
and
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
talk
about
trying
to
direct
the
land
use
dish
about.
D
You
know
trying
to
encourage
you
know
what
do
you
want
to
see
with
all
these
buildings,
but
a
lot
of
it
has
to
do
at
least
for
my
read
of
it
at
the
very
vague
and
ambiguous
concept
that
people
living
in
places,
which
is
great
and
business
activities,
retail
kind
of
things,
but
it's
not
it's
very
it's
overly
broad
when
it
comes
to
purpose
and
I.
Think
that's
why
we've
got
a
lot
of
comments
about
people
owning
their
business,
because
that's
the
human
element
is
ownership.
D
You
know
you're
owning
the
people
who
want
to
you
know,
buy
their
space,
What
kinds
of
businesses.
What
kinds
of
folks
are
these
students
and
and
a
lot
of
that
comes
from
the
economic
side
of
it
and
the
incentives,
which
is
what
Tom
enough
was
saying
about.
You
know
what
are
you
going
to
do
to
encourage?
D
You
know
people
to
do
this
and
what
I
was
saying
about?
Creating
lowering
the
barrier
to
entry.
I
did
a
search
on
the
document.
The
word
technology
is
not
in
it
at
all,
not
once
not
even
one
time
the
internet
is
mentioned
once
so.
What
are
all
these
people
going?
To
do?
I
mean
that
that's
a
I
mean
this
is
2022..
D
You
know
it
was
mentioned
that
we
have
the
the
the
economic
plan,
but
I
really
don't
think
you
can
separate
the
two
to
the
extent
that
if
you
don't
Market
this
to
people,
if
you
don't
direct
how
this
is
sold
to
the
public
and
sold
to
developers,
you're
going
to
get
whoever
shows
up
and
we
don't
want-
whoever
shows
up
I
think
one
of
Amanda's
comments
and
I'm
reading
between
the
lines
here.
But
it's
one
of
the
reasons
I
live
here
is
that
this
is
a
walkable
Community.
D
It
matters,
it
matters
a
lot
and
we
don't
want
to
change
the
character
of
it.
I'm,
not
thinking
you
know.
We
should
have
an
expressway
down.
You
know
G
Street
I.
That
is
not
what
I
want,
but
I
do
want
a
general
acknowledgment
of
the
fact
that
from
A
to
B,
people
are
going
to
be
bringing
their
cars
and
we
need
to
have
some
rational
approach
to
who
these
human
beings
are
when
they
get
here
and
what
they're
actually
going
to
do
once
they
get
here.
So
that's
my
that's
my
overarching
like
that's.
C
That
is,
of
course,
important,
but
I
do
think
that
the
Public's-
you
know
comments
about
you
know
just
creating
more
opportunities
of
it
or
scaling
it
to
I've.
Had
my
nose
and
Workforce
data
all
week,
so
I
apologize
that
that's
about
to
spill
over
onto
everyone
else,
but
fortunately,
one
of
the
analyzes
I
had
to
use
at
work
was
about
the
workforce
staff
he
needs
for
offshore
wind,
aquaculture
and
and
broadband
and
the
possibilities
that
come
in
the
wake
of
broadband
and
the
deficits
that
we're
running
are
really
huge.
C
We're
going
to
need.
You
know
like
the
2
000
construction
workers,
a
ton
of
electricians.
Those
are
the
things
that
are
demanded
by
the
occupations
that
are
demanded
by
those
industries
that
are
coming
here
that
have
been
greenlit
and
approved
to
come,
and
so
I
just
offer
that
because
I
think
it
it
kind
of
creates,
maybe
a
Clear
Vision
of
you
know
who
are
we
building
housing
for
and
who
are
we
going
to
need
to
drive
our
our
Economic
Development
without
a
Workforce?
C
C
You
know
when
we're
talking
about
commuters
coming
in
or
or
people
coming
to
visit.
You
know
a
paid
parking
people,
hate
paid
parking,
but
I
think
you
know
the
demand
for
anything,
that's
offered
free
is
infinite
and
we
have
to
come
up
with
with
strategies
to
to
incentivize,
walking
and
and
other
in
transit.
So
yeah
I'll
stop
myself.
There.
D
D
You
know
we
have
permit
zones
parking,
it
makes
sure
people
who
live
there
are
places
are
so
then
your
comment
about
thousands
of
workers-
they're
not
going
to
live
in
Samoa
I
mean
they're,
not
at
all
period
they're
going
to
live
in
Eureka
and
Arcata
because
we're
the
closest
points
and
that
and
they
are
going
to
have
good
paying
jobs.
So
you
talk
about
your
students
needing
housing.
D
G
Oh
well
I
to
respond
to
a
lot
of
the
comments
kind
of
going
back
to
what
Walt
was
mentioning
with
the
you
know.
One
of
the
reasons
we
live
here
is,
you
know
the
walkability
and
that
sort
of
thing,
although
again
I'd,
go
back
to
the
fact
that
there
are
those
with
but
different
kinds
of
disabilities,
whether
someone
is
blind
or
disabled
and
needs,
you
know,
uses
wheelchair
or
has
other
any
other
disability
that
prevents
them
from
being
able
to
drive
or
to
walk
across
town.
G
So
if
we
want
people
coming
to
events,
we
need
to
address
that,
but
the
other,
the
livability
part
and
I
guess
I.
This
was
just
one
of
the
things
that
stood
out
to
me
was
the
incentivizing
for
developers
to
build
up
to
eight
plus
story
buildings
and
my
my
concern
and
I
don't
know
maybe
I'm
just
a
physical
space
or
visual
person,
but
is
the
effect
of
kind
of
jamming
all
that
into
one
area
and
having
I
I.
Just
what
comes
to
mind
is
is
down.
G
You
know
two
blocks
off
the
Sorel
Place
Building.
There
just
feels
impo
physically
imposing
it
blocks
out
the
light
it.
You
know,
I
I,
and
to
think
that
there
would
be
several
buildings
like
that.
All
in
the
same
area,
I
think
would
make
it
a
little
less
desirable
for
somebody
or
a
business
that
is
in
a
building,
that's
basically
being
blocked
by
some.
You
know:
eight-story
building,
that's
it's!
It
I
think
it's
more
of
an
aesthetic
thing
for
me,
but
it
also
just
physically
feels
like
that
could
be
I.
G
B
So
do
you
want
to
I
mean
I
think
that
that's
been
brought
up
a
lot.
I
think
the
council
is
very
very
aware
of
the
concern
about
eight-story
buildings
or
or
tall
stature
buildings
in
general
and
so
I'm
pretty
sure
that
pretty
positive,
that
they're
all
very
clear,
but
if
you
guys
want
to
send
another
another.
Oh
we
don't
like
eight
stories.
I'm
happy
to
put
that
in
here.
B
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
you
understand,
though,
that
that
is
only
being
proposed
in
the
barrel
District,
which
right
now
really
doesn't
have
any
other.
There's
nothing.
It's
going
to
block!
That's
what
I'm
trying
to
say:
okay,
it's
just
that
one
district
and
so
just
to
be
really
clear,
because
I
know
that
some
people
hear
that
and
they
think
oh,
my
God,
the
whole
Gateway
area
is
going
to
be
eight
story.
Buildings.
That's
that's
just
in
the
barrel
District,
so
it
isn't
that
one
District.
B
So
if
you
look
at
there's
a
map
in
the
Gateway
plan
that
that
gives
the
different
districts
and
then
on
the
next
page
over
it
gives
kind
of
a
table
and
so
close
to
the
residential
it
gets
lower.
So
it's
like
that
that
Gateway,
Barrel
district
and
then
kind
of
the
middle
section
is
sort
of
the
I.
Don't
know
if
it's
called
a
hub
I,
don't
remember
exactly
what
it's
called,
but
that
area
is
is
where
the
larger
stature
buildings
are
being
proposed.
B
And
then
then
it
kind
of
you
know
towards
the
neighborhoods
gets
smaller
with
that
understanding.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
you
knew
that
okay,
but
yeah.
If
you
guys
do
you
guys
want
me
to
put
something
in
here
in
regards
to
that
or
do
you
I
feel,
like
my
whole
plan,
is
completely
lost,
I,
don't
even
know
where
we're
at
I'm
just
gonna
put
more
stuff
on
this
paper,
and
you
guys
can
tell
me
what
you
want
to
do.
I,
don't
think
any
of
the
policies.
A
At
a
loss,
I
I
think
we're
doing
good,
Jen
I.
Think,
okay
yeah.
It's
overwhelming
to
try
to
think
that
we're
going
to
read
all
these
policies
and
then
propose
a
modification
I
think
what
I
heard
from
David,
especially,
is
that
making
a
list
like
this
for
the
for
the
areas
that
we
want
to
continue
to
focus
on
might
might
be
a
more
reasonable
solution
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
today.
F
The
the
discussion
tonight,
if
you
get
to
a
point,
you
say,
hey
look,
these
are
our
topics.
These
are
the
important
things.
We're
gonna
take
a
vote
on
this
and
it
passes.
Then
what
we
will
do
is
we'll
either
you
know
again
we'll
craft,
a
language
we'll
forward
the
recommendation
onto
the
city
council
or
else
we'll
come
back
and
point
out
to
you
or
we
think
that
you
know
we
can
We've
either
addressed
your
concerns
already
or
else
have
enhanced
the
language
to
address
those
concerns,
because
a.
E
F
I
I
am
looking
at
the
plan
and
I
think
I.
Think
I
would
just
need
a
little
bit
more
time
and
I
think
more
collaboration,
but
my
colleagues,
which
is
what
we're
doing
and
it's
great
to
kind
of
dig
in
more.
But
what
I've
noticed
I
was
just
looking
at
site
a
and
site
k
as
being
the
largest
site
and
it
being
termed
as
campus
and
I
guess.
I
But
I
I
was
reading
that
it's
mostly
like
those
sites
are
also
going
to
be
bikes
and
walking,
and
so
I'm
just
kind
of
thinking
about
Transportation
and
attracting
the
you
know.
If
it
is
for
students,
then
just
that
you
know
biking
is
fine,
but
I
I.
Don't
know
why
transportation
popped
up
so
just
kind
of
putting
that
out
there
and
I
think
that's
pretty
much.
It.
B
Just
to
make
sure
Monique
you're
talking
about
this
site
here,
okay
and
and
I
right
here,
no
I
think
the
term
campus
is
more.
That
and
and
again
David
can
clarify
this
a
little
bit
more,
but
I
think
the
term
campus
is
that
this
would
be
like
one
sort
of
planned
area
and
it's
a
larger.
It
would
be
a
larger
area,
and
this
is
also
the
barrel
District.
B
I
I
F
Got
it
okay,
yeah
I,
think
I
understand
so
yeah
going
back,
I,
think
you're
you're,
absolutely
right
the
confusion
around
the
term
campus
I
think
we
we
can
change
that
name,
because
we
don't
want
anybody
to
think
that
what
we're
proposing
is
student
housing,
so
we'll
find
a
new
term
for
that.
But
but
the
goal
of
the
plan
is
really
to
diversify.
Housing.
I
know
you're,
not
seeing
this
detail
in
this
document.
F
If
you
go
into
the
amenities
section,
I
believe
it's
chapter,
two
or
section
two
of
chapter
one,
something
like
that
talks
about
the
amenities
and
in
the
Housing
section
housing
creation
section
it
talks
about.
You
know,
emphasizing
a
range
of
different
housing
types,
a
range
of
different
tenures
and
a
range
of
different
income
levels,
and
so
the
the
current
system
that
we
have
really
does.
Incentivize
student
housing
and
housing,
affordable
to
people,
earning
80
or
less
area
made
income,
and
that's
right
now
in
the
market
conditions.
That's
almost
all
that's
getting
built.
F
We
have
a
couple
adus
all
that's
getting
developed,
so
this
plan
really
tries
to
resolve
that
by
not
only
creating
a
framework
that
allows
more
flexibility,
but
also
by
creating
incentives
through
streamlining
to
to
get
a
diversity
of
housing
types
to
your
question
about
the
portion.
That's
in
the
coastal
zone.
The
intent
here
is
that
once
we
get
done
with
this
local
planning
planning
that
has
to
do
with,
you
know
our
general
plan
that
isn't
subject
to
State
oversight.
F
You
know
local
Coastal,
Commission
State
oversight.
We
would
then
take
that
exact
same.
You
know,
policy
and
code
that
we
had
developed
for
the
portion,
that's
in
the
coastal
zone
and
apply
for
a
an
amendment
to
our
local
Coastal
program,
thereby
basically
implementing
the
exact
same
framework
in
the
coastal
zone,
so
there
wouldn't
be
any
any
additional
implications
from
being
in
the
coastal
zone.
At
that
point
for
psychic.
D
D
F
J
F
The
idea
this
strategy
is
in
part
associated
with
our
long-range
planning
for
adaptation
planning.
In
fact,
you
know
over
time,
as
sea
level
rises.
There's
you
know
hundreds
of
homes,
tons
of
businesses
in
the
area
south
of
Samoa.
That
are,
you
know
at
risk.
If
we
don't
do
something
as
a
planet
to
reverse
our
our
climate
impact,
those
businesses
are
going
to
be
faced
with.
You
know
thing
to
we
really
don't
clean
up
our
act,
then
they're
they're,
ultimately
going
to
be
basically
re-uh.
F
You
know
repossessed
by
the
bay,
so
we
need
to
have
a
place
to
relocate
those
folks.
You
know
over
the
next
50
to
100
years.
The
plan
is
that
we
can
transition
land
uses
and
some
of
those
land
uses
would
transition
into
the
gateway
area,
and
so
so
yeah
I
think
that
you
know
as
part
of
our
our
strategy,
for
you
know,
adaptation
relocation.
You
know
it's
of
interest
to
the
coastal
commission
to
you
know,
continue
to
support
this
project,
and
you
know
that's
it's.
You
know
it's
it's
a
process.
F
G
Yeah
I
was
just
as
the
discussion
was
going
along
there
and
Jen
was
showing
the
the
map
of
all
the
districts
and
talking
about
the
barrel,
District,
specifically
one
of
the
notes
I
had
in
in
my
stuff
when
I've
been
going
through.
It
was
the
the
creation
of
a
second
Plaza,
just
my
personal,
take
on
it.
G
But
what
in
terms
of
what
I
love
about
living
in
Arcata
is
I
love
that
there
is
basically
from
almost
any
point
in
town,
whether
you
can
walk
or
bike
or
drive
or
take
the
bus.
But
there
is
a
city
center
and
we
all
go
there,
and
that
is
where
we
as
a
community,
meet
and
commune
whether
it's
farmer's
market
or
it's
a
North,
Country,
Fair
or
whatever
and
I
I,
don't
know
I.
B
And
I
think
maybe
the
plot.
The
word
Plaza
is
making
that
a
little
less
clear
but
I
think
the
idea
there
was
to
have
a
common
like
area
space
meeting
space.
That
type
of
of
a
thing
not
necessarily
recreating
the
plaza
I,
think
that
it
did
say
entirely
distinctive
from
the
existing
Arcata
Plaza.
So
something
that's
separate
and
different,
obviously
not
the
same.
We
don't
in
any
way
intend
to
to
make
that
make
there
be
a
second
Plaza,
like
the
plaza
we
have,
and
so
maybe
the
wording
in
that
is
I
think.
G
G
B
Think
that
that's
more
what
it's
it's
more
like
an
open
space,
kind
of
a
place
that
people
can
can
gather
in
that
particular
area,
because
it
is
such
a
large
area
and
so
just
making
sure
that
it's
not
just
a
bunch
of
tall
buildings.
This.
This
is
the
barrel
District,
which
allows
eight-story
buildings
and
so
just
making
sure
that
there
is
green
space
in
place
that
that
people
can
actually
get
together
in
and
do
things.
And
it's
not
just
a
wall
of
buildings.
So
but
not
replacing.
G
B
G
C
B
C
Yeah,
okay
I
have
to
go,
do
horse
barn,
chars
that
have
to
get
done
before
nightfall,
but
okay.
I
just
want
to
thank
my
colleagues,
for
you
know
their
thoughtful
input.
I
think
you
have
my
recommendations
and
where
I
stand
on
things
and
I,
you
know
yep,
nothing
has
changed
about
those
and
my
apologies
to
the
members
of
the
public.
We
didn't
have
a
chance
to
hear
yet,
but
thank
you
Jane
for
sending
your
written
comments
thanks.
Everyone
thanks,
Amanda.
A
What
we
continue
to
talk
about,
we
keep
coming
up
with
new
facets,
I
think
we're
going
to
as
we
Move
Along
down
the
pathway
of
getting
this
thing
actually
implemented
and
actually
on
the
ground.
I.
Think
for
me,
my
biggest
thing
would
have
to
do
with
like
encouraging
the
development
of
community
kind
of
equity
programs,
and
the
biggest
thing
I
think
we
can
do
would
be.
For
me,
ga3i
owner
occupied,
affordable
housing.
A
We
are
going
to
encourage
new
home
ownership
opportunities
for
lower
income,
households
through
condominium
deed,
restricted
owner,
owner-occupied,
Condominiums
and
co-ops,
and
stuff
like
that
and
I.
Think
that
is
a
really
really
really
huge
part
of
Economic
Development,
not
only
for
businesses
but
for
the
community
in
general,
because
as
well,
it
said
when
you
own
something
and
you
and
you
I-
think
it
was
you
that
said
that.
A
A
It's
an
affordable
housing
option.
Is
it
very
affordable,
it's
very
much
centrally
located
and
it
really
helps
the
people
that
are
there
to
be
able
to
buy
those
kind
of
things
another.
One
of
my
favorite
projects
in
Arcata
is
the
foodworks
facility,
which
Amanda
mentioned
as
a
co-working
facility.
An
incubation
kind
of
facility.
A
Maybe
it's
it's
a
Cooperative
lab
where
they
have
all
the
the
Fume
hoods
or
whatever
you're
going
to
need
to
do.
Your
research
and
development
I
think
providing
incentives
for
Developers
to
have
a
certain
amount
of
that
or
to
have
that
a
certain
amount
of
those
kind
of
infrastructural
developments
would
be
really
really
important
and
I
think
there's
a
there's
a
lot
of
work
in
the
verbiage
that
we
could
do.
A
So
if
we
can
encourage,
if
we
can
somehow
provide
incentives,
if
there
could
be
some
kind
of
if
it's
important
to
everybody
on
the
council
in
the
community
have
some
kind
of
Mandate
of
percentage
of
the
space
that
we
would
like
to
see
with
these
kind
of
facilities,
I
think
that
would
be
really
smart.
Another
thing
that
we
could
do
would
be
to
incentivize.
If
we
weren't
as
a
city
to
build
some
kind
of
parking
structure,
maybe
we
can
incentivize
the
developer
to
build
a
paid
parking
structure.
A
But
maybe
we
know
that
we're
going
to
need
that
in
the
barrel
District
or
we're
going
to
need
one
in
each
of
the
districts
or
whatever
we
decide.
Our
our
needs
are
I
think
providing
incentives
for
people
to
develop
that
kind
of
infrastructure
so
that
we're
not
left
with
just
a
bunch
of
eight-story
buildings
and
no
parking,
because
that
was
what
got
filled
up.
You
know
so
I
think
yeah,
just
just
providing
the
incentives
encouraging
the
kind
of
development
that
we're
going
to
want
and
need
for
our
community
would
be
really
really
important.
B
A
B
A
A
I
would
exactly
I
want
to
second
that
and
divine
these
concrete
policies
that
would
encourage
or
just
spend
more
time
thinking
about.
Can
we
be
one
step
more
equity-minded
in
the
way
that
we
try
to
develop
these
opportunities,
because
I
think
you
know
just
thinking
about
the
numbers
most
developers
would
build
a
big
building
and
then
rent
it
to
you
likely
you'd
make
more
money
in
the
long
run,
doing
that
by
owning
a
large
building
and
collecting
the
rents.
A
But
if
we
were
to
say
Hey,
you
know,
indeed,
we
want
a
chunk
of
the
of
our
developments
to
be
something
that
can
be
sold.
I
think
that
would
be
not
that
much
different
than
renting
it
long
term
as
it
from
a
development
standpoint.
If
we
were
to
really
encourage
that
I
think
that
would
be
smart.
If
that
was
something
that
we
really
wanted
to
see.
I
A
And
I
found
okay
yeah
and
unfortunately
it's
like
more
more
policies
like
hey.
We
want
to
see-
or
maybe
it's
an
incentive,
even
better,
hey
we're
going
to
give
you
tax
credit
we're
going
to
give
you
some
kind
of
you
know
deal
for
making
this
one
or
two
buildings
that
we
really
would
like
to
see.
Aka
a
co-op,
a
co-working
space,
a
Food,
Works
kind
of
place,
an
incubator
for
people
that
are
in
small
business
or
just
starting
their
their
financial
lives
and
investing
in
their
Community
do.
A
A
B
A
Yeah,
just
collaborative
workspaces,
you
know,
and
I
was
thinking
again
with
the
business.
The
business
with
the
Food
Works
is
great.
Like
the
foodworks
has
all
the
code
floors
everything
you
need
to
do
already
for
being
a
restaurant,
they
have
it
your
condo
space
within
the
the
research
and
development
building.
A
A
B
F
Up
there
and
really
the
concept
for
a
lot
of
the
public
space
in
the
district
is
that
we'd
have
publicly
accessible
private
space
and
that's
for
a
couple
of
reasons.
Our
ability
to
require
dedications
of
Parkland
and
that
sort
of
thing
are
are
limited.
Unless
there's
a
subdivision,
it's
real
clear
when
there's
a
subdivision
and
then
you
know-
and
so
if
there
isn't
a
subdivision,
how
do
we
get
Parkland
is
the
question?
F
F
You
know
some
some
Cons
with
it,
but
it's
a
way
for
us
to
ensure
that
you
know
that
there
is
public
space
for
folks
in
that
District
to
hang
out
in
and
it
doesn't
just
become.
You
know
completely
privatized,
I.
Think,
as
you
said,
you
know
all
eight
story
buildings,
because
that
is
not
the
intent.
The
intent
is
to
make
a
vibrant
public
space
that
that
people
can
enjoy.
B
B
Just
so
clarifying
that
language,
yeah,
okay,
I'll,
just
leave
it
like
that
potentially
change
language
from
closet
to
something
more
broad
or
clarify
this
as
a
whole
yeah,
and
then
this
just
so.
This
is
what
David
was
talking
about
was
right.
Here
is
the
instead
of
I've
incentivized,
privately
owned,
Open
Spaces
as
Community
amenity,
so
that's
kind
of
the
the
what
he
was
just
sort
of
talking
about.
As
far
as.
G
A
B
So
do
we
want
do
you,
as
a
group,
want
to
kind
of
go
over
these
I
think
some
of
these
were
just
pulled
in
from
additional
meetings
and
might
not
be
relevant,
or
the
group
may
not
want
to
forward
those
on
as
recommendations
just
because
it
may
not.
It
just
may
not
make
sense
I.
Just
we
pulled
these
in
just
to
give
you
kind
of
a
starting
place
at
the
last
meeting.
A
B
A
Sure
sure
so,
the
first
one
interested
in
making
sure
that
businesses
aren't
displaced
I
think
this
was
probably
one
of
the
biggest
public
concerns
that
we
heard
and
it's
making
sure
that
the
businesses
that
are
there
are
able
to
continue
to
exist
and
aren't
going
to
have
to
leave
and
or
aren't
going
to
have
to
somehow
continue
cease
to
exist
because
of
the
conditions
of
the
neighborhood,
which
I
think
is
extremely
important.
We
don't
want
to
kick
people
out
of
where
they're
at
so
does.
B
A
B
I
think
that
this
is
more
of
something
that's
going
to
come
out
with
a
form-based
code,
so
I
think
and
David.
You
can
chime
in
too.
If
you
want
to
on
this
one,
but
I
do
think
that
this
is
something
that's
gonna.
That's
gonna
be
addressed
with
the
form-based
code
and
and
we're
going
to
have
a
additional
input
and
meetings
and
conversations
when
that
comes
out.
So
I
don't
know
that
that
this
plan
is
really
going
to
address
that,
but
yeah
I
don't
know
David.
If
you
wanted
to.
G
F
F
We
can
be
developing
that
all
along,
but
you
know
in
particular
because
of
some
of
the
recusal
issues
and
and
some
of
the
you
know,
potential
conflicts
of
interest.
We've
had
to
break
apart
the
General
plan
piece
from
the
code
piece.
So
what
you'll
see
is
over
the
course
of
this
year.
The
goal
is
that
we
will
have
you
know
completed.
F
Adopting
the
eir
adopting
the
the
policy
documents,
the
policy
documents
are
going
to
outline
a
series
of
zoning
changes
that
are
going
to
be
necessary.
Now,
we've
been
focusing
on
the
Gateway
area,
you
know
because
it's
a
brand
new
element,
but
we've
got
zoning
changes
all
throughout
the
city
and
we'll
likely
have
to
strategize
around
how
we
take
those
up
to
make
sure
that
we
don't.
We
have
a
few
conflicts
of
interest
in
any
one
decision
at
a
time.
F
So
that's
that's
sort
of
the
big
overview
to
hone
in
on
specifically
what
you're
talking
about.
When
do
we
start
seeing
this
detail,
we're
going
to
start
seeing
it
in
bits
and
pieces
and
we'll
be
building
it
together,
starting
basically,
now
we've
already
initiated
the
form-based
code
design
work.
We
started
off
with
a
presentation
from
our
one
of
our
Consultants
kind
of
identifying
what
a
form-based
code
is
and
how
it
can
be
used
in
the
city
of
Arcata.
That's
on
our
serp
website.
I
encourage
you
to
go
watch
it.
F
If
you
haven't
already
we're
going
to
next
step
into
a
little
bit
deeper
dive
on
the
form-based
code,
with
respect
to
design
we're
going
to
be
rolling
that
out
over
the
course
of
the
next
couple
of
months,
and
then
we
can,
you
know,
in
terms
of
the
amenities
I
heard
a
lot
of
discussions
tonight
about
detail
that
could
be
in
either
the
form-based
code,
in
specific
standards
or
as
amenities.
You
know,
and
we
can
continue
to
have
those
conversations
at
the
committee.
A
I
guess
and
Jane
can
I
just
read
through
her
her
public
comment,
which
is
which
was
like
kind
of
applicable
here
that
maybe
I
don't
know
that
is
there
going
to
be
standards
or
how
are
we
going
to
get
the
amenities
and
the
different
things,
such
as
the
public,
the
public
spaces
that
are
privately
on
I,
don't
know
yeah
I,
guess
it
does
need
some
more
clarification,
so
I
think.
Would
you
would
anybody
be
interested
in
removing
that
one,
or
is
that
one
that
we'd
like
to
leave
on
there
well
yeah.
D
D
I
think
maybe
rewording
it
and
saying.
Concern
is
noted
that
a
lack
of
clarity
as
to
how
these
projects
will
be
approved
makes
it
difficult
to
nail
down
specifics
some
specific
recommendations
but
I
just
think
that
not
knowing
what
the
you
know,
I
know
and
I,
don't
know
whether
you're
playing
soccer
or
Cricket
kind
of
you
know
is
challenging
I.
B
I
just
wanted
to
throw
it
out
there
that
it
might
be
something
that
is
addressed
in
the
form-based.
It
will
be
something,
obviously
that
is
addressed
in
the
form-based
code,
and
so
it
might
be
more
applicable
to
that
conversation.
We
can
send
this
to.
You
know
to
the
the
Planning
Commission
and
city
council
and
say
that
these
are
the
recommendations
from
the
EDC
and
they
can
look
at
that
and
go
okay
yeah,
but
that's
going
to
be
addressed
in
the
form
base
code.
B
A
D
D
A
B
I
mean
I,
guess
I
could
put
this
in
just
we
could
just
comment
other
and
then
just
sort
of
have
these
things
that
are
just
sort
of
like
these
are
things
that
are
more
big
picture
that
are
kind
of
have
been
brought
up,
and
we
could
put
that
one
into
this
sort
of
bucket
down
here,
as
opposed
to
like
interested
in
making
sure
businesses
aren't
displaced,
making
sure
that
language
is
really
clear.
That's
a
recommendation,
making
sure
there's
a
parking
concerns
and
Mobility
concerns.
B
D
B
G
I
can
clarify
that
one
well
good
question.
One
of
the
meetings
I
can't
remember
who
was
in
the
meeting
but
having
a
construction
firms
and
I,
had
offered
to
talk
to
some
of
our
clients
to
see
if
they'd
come
and
talk
about
what
concerns
might
be
in
the
construction
businesses
locally.
On
that
I'm
not
sure
we
specifically
talked
about
prevailing
wage
issues,
but
that
would
obviously
come
up
if
we
were
dealing
with
construction.
B
G
Maybe
to
to
address
just
not
necessarily
prevailing
wage
jobs,
but
just
jobs.
You
know
what
what
jobs
are?
We
are
kind
of
being
planned
into
as
a
man
who
was
talking
about.
You
know
the
construction
jobs
and
then
what
jobs
would
be
created
as
a
result,
what
jobs
would
be
so
maybe
that's
kind
of
would
be
required
for
it
to
actually
you
know
do
this
so.
B
Maybe
that
is
something
maybe
under
kind
of
under
this
particular
Table
Six,
which
I'd
have
to
pull
up
on
I.
Don't
have
it
right
in
front
of
me
what
the
table
six
is,
but
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
Amanda
mentioned,
which
is
broader
examples
of
job
creation,
maker
spaces,
co-working
other
facilities,
light
manufacturing
and
then
maybe
in
addition,
discussion
on
construction
and
and
like
Workforce,
Development.
F
F
The
the
analysis
that
you
know
can
be
done
on
a
20-year.
A
50-year
plan
is
a
lot
different
than
the
analysis
you
might
do
on
sort
of
like
an
economic
implementation
plan,
that's
over
a
much
shorter
period,
where
you're
looking
at
real-time
data
and
Workforce
and
stuff,
like
that,
so
I
I'm,
just
getting
the
sense
that
we're
kind
of
heading
in
this
direction
of
trying
to
you
know,
get
a
much
more
granular
set
of
data
or
or
estimates
or
projections.
Then
this
document
is
really
intended
to
to
to
handle.
F
B
F
F
Sort
of
like
an
or
an
implementation
measure
that
that
comes
out
of
the
policy,
the
policy
being
you
know,
trying
to
attract
a
broad
diversity
of
different
workforces
and,
being
you
know,
flexible
and
Nimble
to
you
know,
take
advantage
of
you
know,
trends
that
are,
you
know
occurring
in.
You
know
the
economy
over
time
and
then
an
implementation
of
that
could
be
something
along
the
lines
of
you
know
through
the
economic
development,
strategic
plan
or
some
other
implementation
tool.
You
know
continue
to
Monitor
and
project
near-term.
You
know
needs
for
you
know.
F
You
know
worker
housing
or
something
like
that
or
whatever
whatever
the
goal
is
that
we
have
that,
for
that
specific,
that's
even
probably
too
narrow,
because
I
mean
that
would
be
like
a
subset
of
implementation
measures
within
the
economic
development
strategic
plan.
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out.
There
I
mean
I
I,
don't
want
to
dissuade
you
from
making
whatever
recommendation
you
want
to
make,
but
I
I
think
to
try
and
keep
it
at
the
policy
level
you
you
may
not
need
to
get
into
that
level
of
detail
about
Workforce.
A
A
F
B
A
B
B
Think
that
everybody
has
mentioned
that
we
all
love
that
the
walkability
and
alternative
transportation
and
that
that
there,
with
the
understanding
that
there's
also
parking
concerns,
so
plan
reflects
National
best
practice
for
urban
growth
and
development.
I
think
that
this
was
something
that
I
heard
from
Amanda
I'm,
pretty
sure
that
was
one
of
her
comments.
A
D
I
do
not
know
whether
it
does
or
it
doesn't
I
do
know
that
the
the
presentation
that
was
given
on
the
the
overriding
document,
whose
name
I,
cannot
remember
now
now
the
form-based
code
was
on
a
much
more
a
larger
scale,
so
I
I
think
it,
and
that
was
really
about
Urban
Development
and
how
to
handle
this
Fringe
stuff.
So
I
think
it
does.
A
B
D
A
A
B
A
A
B
I
H
H
F
Never
yeah
can
I
make
a
quick
recommendation
because
you
have
had
a
pretty
robust
conversation.
It
sounds
like
I'm,
not
hearing
a
lot
of
dissension
on
any
of
these
topics.
I
think
that
you
know
you've
you've
made
a
lot
of
progress
on
them
and
it
sounds
like
you're
about
to
lose
another
Committee
Member.
You
do
need
to
take
public
comment
before
we
close
the
meeting
and
so
I
want
you
to
think
about
that
as
well.
F
But
but
perhaps
what
you
could
do
is,
if
you
take
action
to
forward
the
recommendations
that
you've
made
thus
far,
we'll
have
something
to
move
forward
with.
If
the
economic
development
committee
wants
to
take
this
up
again
at
their
next
regular
meeting,
they're
more
than
welcome
to
basically
what
we're
trying
to
get
is
some
recommendations
from
the
committee
to
move
it
forward.
F
There's
still
lots
of
process
left
most
of
what
you've
discussed
today,
with
perhaps
the
exception
of
parking,
isn't
really
going
to
have
an
impact
on
the
environmental
document,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
really
need
to
resolve
on
pretty
quickly
so
that
we
can
get
our
environmental
document
under
circulation.
Minor
policy-
tweaks
that
say,
hey,
let's,
encourage
businesses,
aren't
really
going
to
impact
that,
and
so,
if
you
want
to
continue
the
discussion,
you
know
dig
into
other
things
in
more
detail.
F
You
know:
have
you
know
additional
working
sessions
to
to
ask
more
questions
about
how
the
policy
could
be
reflected
in
the
in
the
form-based
code?
We
can
do
that
afterwards,
so
I
would
just
put
forward.
It
sounds
like
to
me,
based
on
outsider's
perspective,
that
you
probably
have
enough
to
take
an
action.
You
know
put
a
motion
on
the
table.
Take
public
comment.
Take
an
action.
A
I
agree:
yeah
I
think
we
we've
talked
about
all
these
bosses
and
I
think
we've
all
been
agreeance
when
we've
written
them
down
that
we
all
thought
they
were
important,
or
at
least
a
few
of
us
did
and
if
there's
no
yeah,
if
there's
no
contention
to
any
of
them,
I
agree
with
David
that
we
this
this
is
it's
not.
This
isn't
the
know-all
sale.
This
is
just
us
at
this
point
saying
hey:
these
are
what
we're
hearing
from
the
public.
This
is
what
we
feel
ourselves.
This
is
what
we
talked
about.
G
Sorry
there
was
one
thing:
I
I
just
got
caught
up
with
the
other
conversations
and
what
my
my
third
area
was
in
the
Arts
and
entertainment
section
of
the
plan.
If
we
could
just
add
something
if
it's
possible
and
David
may
be
able
to
speak
to
this,
but
to
encourage
City
artist,
Partnerships
or
something
of
that
sort
across,
not
just
the
creamery
building.
But
you
know
across
the
area
for
artists
performing
artists.
That
kind
of
thing.
G
Was
just
thinking
because
artists
A
lot
of
them
individual
artists,
you
know
it's
it's
hard
to
get
to
resources
that
you
need
and
and
I
know,
I'm
a
little
biased
in
this
area,
but
I
see
the
Arts
as
a
good
economic
driver
in
terms
of
the
community
so
yeah.
If
there
could
be
something
about
City
artist,
Partnerships
to
promote
the
Arts
in
that
area.
B
A
A
Okay,
lovely
so
then,
at
this
point
we'll
take
public
comment
and
I
see
three
hands
raised,
the
first
being
Jane,
Woodward
and
I
would
like
to
say
for
the
sake
of
time.
If
we
can
keep,
you
know
our
comments
under
three
minutes.
Two
minutes
would
be
ideal
just
because
we
only
have
11
minutes
left
before
it's
two
hours.
We
would
really
appreciate
that
I
see
that
Jane
has
her
hand
raised
first
I
mean
she's
up
on
top
of
my
list
here
Jane.
Can
you
hear
us.
L
Well,
I'll
be
quick.
You
already
have
my
comments.
However,
what
I
would
recommend
is
before
you
send
these
to
council
that
you
revisit
them,
in
other
words,
make
sure
that
they
come
out
as
actual
recommendations
such
as
well
I
mean
the
existing
one.
That's
really
obvious
is
that's
good
leave,
Creamery
District
boundary,
but
remove
zoning
implications.
Add
to
the
map.
That's
a
specific
recommendation.
L
I
guess
the
first
one
isn't
interested
in
but
make
sure
businesses
aren't
displaced,
make
it
specific
the
next
one
is
really
just
thank
you
for
that's,
not
a
recommendation,
but
that's
just
saying
thank
you.
That's
a
nice
Focus
consider
not
just
interested
in
support.
Community
Land,
Trust
housing,
co-ops,
condos
opportunities
for
more
diverse
ownership.
L
G
A
J
I'm
I
submitted
a
transcription
of
what
I
said
two
weeks
ago.
I
am
like
I
like
to
transcribe
this
entire
presentation
today,
because
you
said
some
great
things:
I
keep
referring
to
the
arcadiaone.com
website,
because
I've
done
a
lot
of
work
there.
Surge
and
Amanda
talked
about
home
ownership
opportunities.
That's
a
key
element
for
me
also
I.
Think
the
plan
as
it
is
now
provides
practically
zero
home
ownership
opportunities,
and
that
was
addressed
at
the
Planning
Commission
meeting
last
Friday
commission
meeting
that
needs.
J
We
need
to
do
something
there
so
I'm
solidly
with
you
on
that.
Well,
you
mentioned
that.
There's
not
a
single
word
of
the
internet
or
Tech
in
this
document.
I
did
a
little
word
cloud
of
to
to
show
all
the
words
that
are
and
are
not
in
the
document.
It's
on.
The
arcade1.com
website
is
the
word
cloud.
There's
lots
of
words
that
aren't
in
there
like
sun
shading,
low-cost
housing,
home
or
how
are
not
also
in
there.
Okay,
it's
just
one
of
those
curious
things.
J
It
doesn't
in
itself
mean
something,
but
those
words
are
not
in
there.
Linda
talked
about
the
need
for
a
3D
modeling,
so,
as
you
can
see,
solar
shading,
that's
a
missing
element
right
now
that
is
coming.
Perhaps
in
July
or
August
David
mentioned
the
presentation
of
the
form-based
code
from
Ben
Noble
I.
Consider
this
an
absolute
must
to
read
or
look
at.
J
Unfortunately,
the
audio
is
really
muffled
I
transcribed
the
entire
thing
and
put
it
on
the
arcadia1.com
website,
with
an
enhanced
audio
that
I
sharpened
for
clarity,
so
you
can
hear
it
I
prefer
to
read
things
rather
than
watch
a
video
I,
encourage
you
to
read
it
and
be
listen
to
it
in
a
more
clear
form.
All
the
contents
are
there
all
the
examples.
Are
there
Linda
asked
for
a
rough
ETA
on
the
form-based
code,
I,
don't
believe
an
answer
was
really
given.
J
I
also
would
like
to
have
a
rough
ETA
on
the
form
base
code.
I
think
it'll
be
about
six
months,
but
that's
just
an
entire
guess.
On
my
part,
your
concerns
about
the
difficulty
in
evaluating
this
plan
without
the
form-based
code
are
also
acted
strongly
by
the
Planning
Commission.
They
are
evaluating
next
week.
The
chapter
on
design
a
couple
months
ago,
the
vice
chair,
Dr
Judith
Mayer,
said:
can
we
evaluate
design
without
having
the
form-based
code?
Those
are
not
a
quote
in
essence.
That's
what
she
said.
J
K
K
Hello
good
evening,
thanks
for
your
hard
work-
and
you
know
putting
together
another
meeting
and
working
forward
with
all
this
again,
I
would
mirror
what
James
said
about
making
the
language
a
little
stronger,
with
action
words
and
real
firm,
real
firm
language.
That
really
says
what
you're
wanting
to
give.
K
As
as
support
for
the
plan
advice
for
the
plan,
let's
see,
I
use
the
word
when
I'm
thinking
but
I'm
trying
to
remember
to
pause
so
the
equity
owner
occupant
building
the
idea
for
a
mandate
I
definitely
make
that
one
stronger,
I
I
think
that's
a
huge
thing.
That's
missing
and
in
Arcata
we're
real
low
on
that
now,
37
percent
or
somewhere
along
that
line-
and
you
know
if
we're
going
to
have
a
strong
community
in
the
future.
Definitely
we
want
to
create
more
of
that
early
on.
K
There
was
plenty
of
conversation
about
parking.
I
I
encourage
more
language
or
ideas
around
the
idea
of
some
parking
structure,
with
electric
shuttles
for
not
only
Cal
Poly
but
for
shopping
downtown
and
for
high
school
students,
and
all
of
that
I
think
that
could
become
a
real
great
thing
somewhere.
You
know
wherever
the
biggest
structures
are
going
to
be
built,
and
that
brings
me
to
my
last
Point
here
on
page
44.
K
The
draft
I
don't
know
if
you
could
bring
that
up
Jen,
but
this
whole
building
Heights
discussion,
I'm
I
I,
never
put
it
out
how
I
like
or
dislike
the
building
Heights
that
are
promoted-
and
you
know
there's
reasons
on
both
sides
for
pro
and
con
with
that.
But
if
you
look
at
that
map
on
page
44
of
the
draft
the
barrel
District,
where
they're
saying
you
know
earlier,
they
talked
about.
K
Oh
there's
only
going
to
be
eight-story
buildings
on
on
in
the
barrel,
District,
that's
the
pale,
yellow,
colored
one
down
south,
but
the
Hub
is
blue,
and
that
goes
up
through
the
entire
Center.
Those
are
seven
story,
promoted
areas,
you've
got
the
corridor
with
six.
The
neighborhood
on
the
edges
in
the
brown
are
five
and
you
know
I
think
it
was
a
little
bit
lacking
on
you
know.
Eight
Story
versus
seven
in
a
majority
of
of
the
area
of
this
is
something
that
should
be
looked
at
and
really
clarified.
K
A
K
E
Just
bringing
people
in
you
know
a
corridor
for
bike
and
pedestrian
activity
into
that
area,
because
I
know
they
do
a
lot
of
entertainment
and,
and
then
you
know
those
businesses
so
I'd
like
to
see
both
of
those
in
there.
So,
let's
see
I
think
I
kind
of
I,
miss
I,
missed
the
first
half
of
the
the
meeting.
I
hear
that
you
did
a
good
job.
So
thank
you
all
for
really.
E
A
D
So
when
we
scheduled
this
meeting,
I
think
the
understanding
was
is
that
we
could
either
do
it.
We
weren't
going
to
be
able
to
do
it.
The
last
meeting
to
do
all
this
it
was.
We
were
going
to
do
it
at
the
next
meeting,
or
were
we
going
to
need
two
meetings
to
kind
of
go
through
this
and
read
it?
Maybe
I
misunderstood
that
and
we
just
wanted
more
input
so.
B
So
you
guys
are
more
than
welcome.
Oh
sorry,
I
have
a
timer
going.
You
guys
are
more
than
welcome
to
put
this
again
on
the
agenda
in
August,
if
that
is
what
you
want
to
do,
but
I
know
that
they
are
interested
in
getting
this
feedback
and
recommendations
as
soon
as
possible.
So
I
think
that's
kind
of
why
we
scheduled
this
get.
The
special
meeting
is
so
that
we
could
could
try
and
get
something
to
them
today
when.
D
B
F
Yeah
I
I
was
I,
just
I
want
to
back
up
and
I
mean
artificial
emergency.
This
is
not,
if
you
guys
want
to
continue
it
continue.
It
there's
absolutely
zero
pressure
here.
You
and
the
reality
is
that
again,
like
I
said
earlier,
this
is
a
multi-month
process.
We're
not
going
to
be
done
with
this
until
into
2023
you
can
set,
you
could
do
subcommittees.
You
could
take
special
meetings.
You
can
just
take
it
up
at
your
regular
meetings.
You
can
go
at
your
own
pace
at
some
point.
F
The
council
is
going
to
make
a
decision
and
if
your
recommendation
isn't
in
by
then
they
may
make
a
recommendation
without
you,
but
we're
not
at
risk
of
that
now.
So
the
Council
on
the
Planning
Commission
are
meeting
on
August
23rd
with
the
joint
study
session
to
have
a
conversation
about
impart
timing.
F
F
D
So
I'm
just
going
to
jump
in
here
the
comment
that
was
made
that
these
are
not
actionable
items
this.
This
looks
more
like
scratch
paper
and
you
know,
is
accurate
and
I.
Don't
think
we
are
it.
It
serves
us
well
to
action
it
as
it's
written
and
I.
Don't
know
that
we
can
say
we're
going
to
approve
this,
but
go
ahead
and
edit
it.
However,
you
want
and
change
it
so
I'm,
just
I
I
think
it
given
that
they've
got
a
meeting
on
the
ninth,
which
is
directly
after
our
meeting.
D
If
we
can
ask
staff
to
clean
this
up
to
make
it
directed,
and
then
it
doesn't
have
to
be
like
two
hours
of
talking
about
this,
we
can
just
look
at
it
and
go
yeah.
That
makes
sense
to
me,
or
did
we
miss
the
bus
or
whatever,
but
at
least
we're
actioning
on
something
that's
cogent
and
doing
what
we
want
it
to
do.
My
two
cents.
F
Yeah
absolutely
well
and
and
to
be
clear,
the
the
purpose
of
this
was
to
and
I'm
not
sure
if
you
saw
this
presentation,
but
the
purpose
of
this
was
to
try
and
get
some
recommendations.
If
those
recommendations
align
with
the
policy,
we
would
go
back
and
recraft
that
policy
keep
the
process
moving
forward.
We've
got
concurrent
review
going
on
between
various
bodies
and
so
there's
you
know
basically
a
lot
of
balls
in
the
air.
F
If
you
absolutely
as
a
committee,
if
you
absolutely
will
not
make
a
recommendation
until
you
see
the
specific
language,
and
you
want
to
say
yes,
that's
the
specific
language
we
want
to
see
any
of
those
policy
items
that
we
talked
about
that
really
reinforce
the
the
existing
policy.
We've
we've
talked
about
a
lot
of
things
where
we
said
yeah,
that's
that's
clearly
in
the
document.
That's
the
intent
of
the
document.
We
can
make
slight
modifications
to.
F
You
know,
clarify
or
enhance
that
those
things
what
we're
planning
on
doing
is
making
those
edits
in
line
in
the
text
and
identifying
those
changes
with
a
color
coding
that
lets
the
Planning
Commission.
The
city
council
know
which
committee
made
those
recommendations,
the
other
recommendations
that
that
are
coming
forward,
that
either
don't
align
with
or
you
know,
have
contradictory
policy
recommendations.
So
you
know,
EDC
said,
take
parking
away,
the
parks
and
rec
or
the
energy
committee
said.
You
know,
I'm.
F
F
Boeing
committee
says
we
need
more
parking.
The
other
committee
says
we
need
less
and
then
they're
going
to
cut
they're
going
to
be
presented
to
the
decision
makers
in
a
table
along
with
a
you
know,
an
analysis
of
what
would
be
the
impact
of
that
policy.
We're
not
going
to
craft
language
for
those,
because
the
the
city
council
has
to
give
us
some
some
guidance
as
to
which
of
those
two
directions.
We
want
to
go
before.
We
spend
our
time
and
energy
crafting
policy
language.
F
They
think
we
ought
to
have
more
of
it
and
they're,
not
necessarily
convinced
that
we
ought,
to
you,
know,
try
and
reduce
parking
standards.
So
with
that
in
mind,
you
know,
as
you
enter
into
your
your
next
meeting
and
start
taking
this
information
up
again.
I
think
that
you're
going
to
see
reflect
reflected
back
to
you.
You
know
some
of
these.
F
We
may
have
time
to
try
and
go
in
and
Fiddle
with
the
language
you
know,
but
some
of
them
you're
going
to
just
see
some
slightly
cleaned
up
discussions
or
that
we
heard
tonight
and
we're
going
to
ask
you
to
take
action
on
those
bring
those
forward
to
the
the
decision
makers
and
we'll
be
developing
that
policy,
as
we
can
over
time,
because
again
I
mean
you
have
to
you
have
to
recognize.
We
have
nine
different
committees.
We
have.
You
know
you
know
lots
of
other
things
going
on.
F
Besides
just
the
Gateway
plan,
and
so
it's
you
know
it's
a
time.
You
know
time
time
and
energy
prioritization
and
those
kinds
of
things
that
we
have
to
counterbalance
I.
Just
don't
want
you
to
think
that
we're
going
to
come
back
and
have
a
bunch
of
cleaned
up
policy
language
for
you
to
review
next
time
and
say
yep,
that's
exactly
what
we
thought
or
no
modify
this.
A
Yeah
I
agree,
I,
think,
the
sooner
that
we
can
get
in
these
recommendations,
even
if
they're
not
super
complete,
we're
going
to
continue
to
talk
about
this
I
think
the
the
quicker
that
we
can
get
them
in
concisely
and
again
I'm
not
advocating
for
leaving
them
as
a
jumbled.
I
think
we
should
make
them
more,
concise,
I
think
we
should
think
about
what's
important,
maybe
I
think
we
should
put
them
in
order
of
importance
to
us
so
that
we're
extremely
concise,
I,
don't
think.
F
The
other
thing
you
may
consider,
if
there
are
a
couple
or
three
of
you
who
are
very
interested
in
making
sure
that
you
know
your
committee
recommends
very
specific
language.
If
you
want
to
form
a
subcommittee
to
draft
that
language
and
then
we
can
bring
it
back
to
the
full
committee
at
the
next
meeting,
you
know
that
that's
another
alternative
too,
and
then
you
would
see
a
really
specific
language.
I,
just
can't
guarantee
that
I
could
dedicate
the
staff
resources
to
doing
that
between
now
and
next
meeting,
but
subcommittees
are
always
an
option.
I
I
wanted
to
I,
guess:
ask
for
the
I
noticed
there
was
like
the
public
and
then
the
Planning
Commission,
and
they
didn't
have
dates,
listed
and
I'm,
wondering
kind
of
because
I
like
to
dig
more
into
this
and
if
I
could
be
on
the
subcommittee
to
kind
of
draft
more
and
depth
policy,
or
you
know
pick
through
it,
I
I
would
love
to.
But
I
I
want
to
know
if
that
time,
to
be
foreign
next
meeting.
B
So
the
study
session
between
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
city
council
is
scheduled
for
the
23rd
of
August.
So
that's
the
date
for
that
meeting
and
I
think
that
it
would
make
sense
again.
Like
David
said
it's
not
on
fire,
it
could
go
after
that.
There's
all
kinds
of
time,
but
I
think
that
that
would
be
a
Target.
We
would
want
to
get
our
recommendations
into
them
by
I.
I
would
believe
that
that
would
make
the
most
sense
by
August
23rd.
B
That's
the
date
of
the
that's
the
date
of
the
study
session
so
prior
to
that.
So
if
we
can
get
these,
you
know
again,
it's
a
it's
up
to
you,
guys,
whatever
you
guys
want
to
do,
but
if
we
can
get
them
in
by
the
second,
that
would
be
I.
Think
ideal.
That's
our
next
meeting!
Unless
you
guys
wanted
to
schedule
an
additional.
A
I,
don't
think
we
need
another
I
mean
we're
so
close
I
think
we
just
need
to
go
through.
We
need
to
groom
the
verbias,
as
Jaden
had
mentioned,
we'll
make
specific
recommendations
out
of
these
their
thoughts.
Are
there
I
think
it's
not
going
to
take
us
very
long,
I
think
we
could
probably
pull
it
off
by
the
next
meeting
and
have
this
all
done,
I
think
we
made
a
lot
of
progress
here.
A
I
think
more
than
anything
we
all
got
way
more
comfortable
with,
but
we're
actually
supposed
to
do
as
a
as
a
committee
which
is
make
recommendations
to
the
city
council.
And
how
do
we
do
that
through
time
and
learning-
and
this
is
it-
we
have
our
ideas
by
the
next
meeting-
let's
come
at
it
and
let's
make
recommendations
out
of
these
ideas,
I
think
we
can
vote
on
it
and
come
up
with
these
recommendations
to
solidify
them,
I
think
by
the
next
meeting.
That
will
give
us
some
time
to
co-op.
A
B
And
I
think
you
guys
did
get
through
a
lot.
I
think
you
guys
got
through
a
lot.
I
know
that
it
was
kind
of
painful
to
get
to
this
point,
but
I
appreciate
all
of
your
input
and
and
you're
working
together.
You
guys
are
really
good
at
collaborating
and
making
sure
everybody's
involved.
So
absolutely
that's
great.
A
I
B
It's
so
David.
Do
you
want
to
talk
about
the
structure
of
the
Planning
Commission?
It's
it's!
The
Planning
Commission
City
Council
study
session,
so
they're
going
to
be
they're
going
to
be
at
the
table
having
the
having
the
conversation,
but
that
doesn't
mean
you
know
the
public,
it's
open
to
the
public,
so
the
public
can
be
there,
but
as
far
as
the
EDC
getting
direct
feedback
from
the
council
I
don't
know
that
that
I
don't
know
that.
That
will
happen
at
that
meeting.
F
That's
not
really
the
purpose
of
the
meeting
to
directly
like
have
the
EDC
engage
with
the
council
directly,
but
you
know
certainly
the
the
economic
development
committee
members
should,
you
know,
feel
free
to.
You
know
come
to
the
meeting,
it's
a
it's
a
public
meeting
or
you
know,
tune
in
actually
I'm.
Not
let
me
take
that
back.
F
I'm,
not
100
sure
we're
gonna
have
a
a
zoom
option,
so
so
look
look
to
that
check
the
agenda
on
that,
but
definitely
feel
free
to
you
know
to
you
know,
tune
in
participate
in
in
that
way.
You
know,
and
you
know,
I
think
that
there
certainly
could
be
a
framework
for
a
you
know.
Conversation
with
the
the
council
in
terms
of
like
you
know,
making
those
recommendations
to
go
forward,
and
then
the
council
may
say:
okay,
look!
F
Let's,
let's
have
a
a
study
session
with
the
economic
development
committee
or
let's
make
some
decisions
and
then
send
that
back
down
to
the
economic
development
committee
and
ask
them
you
know:
hey.
Does
this,
you
know.
Does
this
look
right?
You
know
we.
We
did
this
policy
balancing,
but
we
picked
these
three
and
left
out
this
one,
and
this
is
the
reason
why
you
know
that
so
so
that
conversation
can
evolve
over
time
but
yeah.
Certainly
the
23rd.
That's
not
the
the
purpose
of
that
forum.
A
F
Yeah,
just
procedurally
and
and
I
apologize
I,
don't
this
is
definitely
something
where
I
would
double
check.
My
Robert's
Rules,
if
I
had
him
in
front
of
me,
I'm
not
at
work
right
now
and
I.
Don't
have
them
in
front
of
me,
but
I
think
proceededly.
What
you
have
here
is
a
emotion
and
a
second
on
the
floor.
You
need
to
take
action
on
that
motion
in
second,
you
have
a
counter
motion
on
the
floor.
F
If
it
doesn't
get
a
second,
then
it
dies
for
lack
of
a
second.
So
you
may
want
to
consider
whether
or
not
I'm
not
motion
should
be
seconded,
and
then
you
would
take
them
in
the
order
that
they
were
presented.
First,
the
motion
and
second
that
was
presented
first
and
then
second,
the
motion
in
second
that
was
presented.
Second.
A
B
A
D
A
I
A
D
I
A
H
F
I
totally
agree:
I
was
I,
was
making
a
joke
about
how
confused
it
got
at
the
end.
So
I
I
really
want
to
thank
all
of
the
committee
members
and
the
and
the
public,
for
you
know,
sticking
with
it
through
this
whole
thing,
I
I
do
think
that
you
know
there's
there's
a
lot
of
great
work
that
came
out
of
this
I
totally
agree
with
you
on
that
one
chair
and
I'm,
looking
forward
to
your
your
next
regular
meeting,
so
we'll
go
forward
from
there.
Thank
you.
We.