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January 18 Transportation Safety Committee Meeting - Audio Only
A
Okay
dave
looks
like
we
have
quorum
and
I
don't
think
there's
any
members.
So
if
you
want
anytime
you're
ready,
you
can
start.
B
Okay,
I'll
call
the
meeting
to
order.
Thank
you
and
welcome
everybody.
First
thing
we'll
do
is
do
roll
call
and
I'll
go
around
and
just
call
your
first
name
in
the
order
that
I
see
you
on
my
screen
and
then
please
introduce
yourself.
I'm
dave
ryan,
chair
transportation,
safety
committee
me
style.
B
C
You're,
muted,
that's
that's
right!
Good
afternoon,
misael
ramos
transportation
safety
committee.
B
And
sue
susan.
B
C
David
case
assistant
city,
engineer.
B
B
Typically,
we
do
approval
of
minutes
at
this
point,
but
the
minutes
were
not
able
to
be
typed
up
this
week.
We
will
deal
with
those
next
month,
then
so
we'll
skip
over
that
that
item
next
on
our
agenda,
public
oral
and
written
communications.
This
item
is
provided
for
people
to
address
the
committee
on
matters
not
on
the
agenda
and
any
requests
that
require
committee.
Action
will
be
set
by
the
committee
to
a
future
agenda
or
early
referred
to
staff.
B
If
we
get
lots
and
lots
of
public
comment
and
it
gets
complicated,
we
may
limit
comments
to
three
minutes,
but
at
this
point
something
I
need
to
clarify
is
that
nature
is
driving
this
craft.
I
have
no
control
over
the
the
zoom
features,
so
I'll
ask
nature
to.
Let
me
know
if
there
appear
to
be
anybody
raising
their
hand
for
coming
public
comment
or
have
indicated
they
would
like
to
speak.
A
I
see
two
hands
and
I'll
call
the
name
and
I'll
allow
to
speak
in
the
order,
and
then
I
just
want
to
make
sure
this
is
for
the
public
comment
period
for
the
item
not
on
the
agenda.
So
I
believe
I
saw
christine
so
I'm
going
to
allow
you
in
go
ahead.
Christian.
I
Can
you
hear
me
now?
Yes,
oh
okay?
Well,
I
didn't
see
my
picture
so
I
didn't
know
if
I
was
in
and
I
just
found
out
about
it
this
afternoon.
I
have
the
whole
gateway
plan
here,
but
I
didn't
see
this
information,
so
I
thought
I'd
just
I'll
tune
in.
I
live
in
the
area
and
I
live
on
j
street.
A
J
Good
afternoon
everybody,
this
is
colin
fisk
with
the
coalition
for
responsible
transportation
priorities.
I
sent
you
all
a
comment
about
the
press
release
that
went
out
recently
around
like
pedestrian
safety
at
night,
and
I
won't
repeat
it
all,
but
I
hope
you
all
had
a
chance
to
look
at
and
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
I'm
I'm
here.
If
you
have
any
questions.
Thank
you.
B
Okay,
so
yeah
so
kirsten
if
you're
going
to
stick
around
the
opportunity
to
comment
on
the
gateway
plan
will
be
later
when
we
hit
that
on
the
agenda
and
colin.
Yes,
thank
you
for
your
email.
Is
there
anybody
who
would
like
to
comment
or
address
anything
related
to
the
email
from
colin.
C
I
I
definitely
also
sympathize
with
with
its
contents.
E
Not
trying
to
be
offensive,
but
it
really
came
across
as
being
from
the
windshield
perspective.
B
Okay,
anybody
else
yeah.
I
I
would
like
to
acknowledge
that
you
know.
Definitely
you
made
a
lot
of
good
good
points,
colin,
that,
of
course
we
all,
I
think,
are
very
very
valid.
I
guess
it.
We
have
to
take
responsibility
for
any
inaccuracies
that
were
in
that
and
we'll
just
have
to
be
a
little
more
careful
in
citing
the
law
in
the
future.
B
I
do
see
a
personally
a
lot
of
value
in
that
as
an
as
an
item
that
still
needs
to
be
included
in
education,
especially
living
in
this
town,
and
when
I
see
our
cycles,
no
pun
intended
of
students
coming
and
going.
You
know
we
have
up
to
seven
eight
thousand
students
in
town-
and
it's
quite
obvious
to
me,
as
I
go
around
town,
how
that
population
cycle
take
takes
place.
B
So
I'm
not
gonna
blame
blame
students,
but
I
am
going
to
point
out
is
just
illogical
that
I
do
see
a
lot
of
education
needed
along
those
lines
and
I
think
it's
appropriate
for
the
transportation
safety
committee
to
continue
with
that
education
with
taking
in
the
sensitivities
that
you
mentioned.
Calling
wendy
your
hand
is
up.
F
B
Maybe
nature
can
remind
us
on
you
know,
I
don't
have
to
go
back
through
past
minutes.
I
don't
have
a
real
clear
recollection,
but
it
may
have
been
something
that
I
know
we
do
psas
annually.
I
don't
recall
very
specifically
looking
at
that
one,
but
we
may
have
looked
at
it
as
a
committee.
A
A
A
B
Right,
okay,
anybody
else
before
we
move
on
to
the
next
agenda
item.
So
yes
thank
thanks
for
keeping
us
on
our
toes
colin
we're
going
to
go
to
reports
public
safety
report.
It
does
look
like
todd.
Dockweiler
is
here
before
we
do
that.
I
just
want
to
just
clarify
a
little
bit
to
you
know.
We
have
a
couple
of
newer,
newer
members
and
this
the
way
this
is
spelled
out
in
our
agenda
can
appear
to
be
confusing.
B
B
Some
of
them,
don't
don't
deem
that
they
don't
qualify
for
actually
taking
an
official
police
report
or
a
collision
report,
I
believe,
is
what
that's
about,
but
todd
still
reports
the
numbers
of
those
to
us,
how
many
of
them
there
are
each
month
and
then
the
one
that
says
report
taken
those
are
usually
the
ones
that
we
we
discuss.
So
I
don't
know
if
I
just
explained
that
properly
todd
you
can
clear
it
up
for
me.
If
so,
but
thank
you
for
coming
I'll,
let
you
take
it
from
here.
H
Yeah
dave,
I
think,
you're
pretty
accurate
on
that,
and
I
I
guess
to
clarify
a
little
more
on
what
we
take
reports
on
or
what
we
don't
all
track.
Collisions
are
documented.
It's
just
the
extent
of
investigation
that
goes
in
to
the
collision,
so
in
other
words,
two
people
have
a
fender
bender
in
a
parking
lot.
There's
no
real
dispute.
They
both
are
insured
they're,
both
licensed,
and
we
just
facilitate
them
exchanging
information.
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
folks
have
had
that
happen
at
some
point.
H
It
doesn't
require
an
investigation
by
the
police
to
determine
in
fault
it's.
It's
just
basically
documented
that
way
that
there
wasn't.
There
wasn't
a
question
involved
and
it
was
just
an
exchange
of
insurance
information
driver
information.
We
facilitate
that.
We
document
that,
but
there's
not
a
investigation
report
generated
so
following
along
with
that
those
type
of
collisions
where
there
was
no.
H
Police
investigative
report
taken,
we
had
17
traffic
collision
incidents
and
then
we
had
an
additional
17
traffic
incidents
that
did
require
a
report.
So
in
total
this
month
there
were
32
collisions
that
that
came
to
arcade
pd
and
for
those
of
you
that
have
been
doing
this
for
a
while.
That's
that's
up
we're.
Usually,
that's
probably,
I
would
say
eight
to
ten
collisions
ahead
of
where
we've
been
in
the
past
six
months
on
average.
H
So
a
little
bit
of
an
uptick
of
those
there
were
again
very
common
out
of
the
17
were
where
reports
were
taken.
10
of
those
were
hit
and
run
collisions.
H
H
H
We
did
have
a
collision
where
county
vehicle
bar
backed
into
a
fire
hydrant,
and
so
that
was
more
more
city,
property
kind
of
getting
battered
about
this
month,
only
one
dui
collision,
and
that
one
I
know
oftentimes
we
talk
about
the
roundabouts
and
that
dui
collision
did
occur
at
the
samoa
in
union
roundabout.
H
His
statement
was,
he
wasn't
familiar
with
how
roundabout
works
and
he
came
into
it
about
45
miles
an
hour
went
through
the
chain-link
fence
and
over
into
the
correct
fair,
it's
on
the
other
side
kind
of
on
that
that
north
west
side
of
the
roundabout,
so
that
was
that
was
not
a
good
one.
There
was
only
one
collision
that
involved
a
pedestrian
and
that
occurred
at
7th
and
8th
street,
and
that
vehicle
was
westbound
7th,
but
was
turning
on
to
southbound
h.
H
At
the
time
there
was
construction
going
on
there.
I
think
the
driver
said
that
he
was
somewhat
distracted
by
the
construction.
A
pedestrian
crossing
h
was
struck
as
minor
injury.
H
The
pedestrian
was
outside
of
the
crosswalk
crossing
diagonally
across
the
street,
but
in
the
totality
of
the
circumstance
the
driver
was
still
at
fault
because
he
left
the
stop
sign
entering
another
street
and
even
though
the
pedestrian
is
maybe
crossing
where
they
shouldn't
be
crossing
the
driver
still
because
you're
entering
another
roadway,
you
still
are
at
fault.
There.
H
Anything
else
that
was
really
noteworthy
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
parking
lot,
fender
benders
and
that
might
be
related
to
the
up
tick
and
shopping
and
and
whatnot
around
the
leading
up
to
christmas.
H
Because
again,
these
are
this
is
for
december
other
than
that,
I
think
that's
about
what
we
have.
Does
anyone
have
questions
on
any
of
the
particulars
of
of
any
of
those
collisions
they
see
or
any
of
the
locations.
H
So
he
reported
a
minor
injury
to
his
hip,
so
it
didn't,
it
didn't
seem
like
it
was
a
real,
significant
injury
again
very,
very
low
speed,
because
the
vehicle
is
just
leaving
the
stop
sign.
So
fortunately,.
H
H
B
Missile,
did
you
have
a
question.
C
I
did
and
on
that
note
I've
made
that
mistake,
but
I
I
everything
turned
out
fine.
Did
you
say
todd
that
the
dui
on
the
roundabout
was
a
single
vehicle
incident.
H
Yeah,
so
that
one
it
was
a
single
vehicle
and
again
the
vehicle
goes
right
through
the
roundabout
and
I'm
sure,
you're,
probably
familiar
with
that
chain.
Link
is
on
that
that
northwest
side
at
union
and
samoa
there,
so
the
vehicle
went
through
there
and
down
into
that
waterway
and
so
yeah.
If
he
he
fully
admitted
he
was
just
going
way
too
fast
and
didn't
said,
he
didn't
understand
how
a
roundabout
worked
work.
H
Okay,
we
did
have
another
one
that
was
of
somewhat
interest,
and
some
of
you
might
have
seen
this
early
in
the
month
where
a
vehicle
was
on
south
I
street
and
out
into
the
bay.
I
don't
know
if
anybody
passed
by
that
one,
but
that.
H
Yeah
that
was
a
hit
and
run
collision
the
driver
we
were
able
to
contact
to
the
driver,
but
it
was
hours
and
hours
and
hours
later.
H
He
reported
some
minor
injury
on
that,
but
was
unwilling
to
speak
with
us
immediately,
and
I
mean
so
we
weren't
able
to
determine
intoxication
on
that,
but
likely
that
was
involved
just
given
the
time
of
day.
But
I
think
a
lot
of
you
guys
are
familiar
with
that
corner
down.
There
kind
of
the
last
sharp
corner
before
you
get
to
the
marsh
parking
lot
and
the
vehicle
just
just
launched
out
there
into
the
bay
did
quite
a
bit
of
damage
to
the
car.
H
There
was
some
environmental
damage
in
the
sense
that
the
vehicle
leaked
fluids
into
the
into
the
bay
there.
Environmental
services
came
out
and
was
able
to
mitigate
that
the
best
they
could.
B
B
We
will
move
along
to
the
transit
report.
Nature
if
there's
anything
to
report
there.
A
No
not
this
month,
I
don't
have
any
updates
on
transit
or
on
the
project
reports.
Unless
you
have
questions
on
specific
project,
I
already
provided
update
last
month
on
the
project
that
we
are
working
on
paving
project
is
you
know,
making
some
progress?
So
if
you
have
any
specific
questions,
I
can
answer
the
questions
on
the
projects,
but
other
than
that,
I
don't
have
any
specific
update.
B
B
Great
and
old
business
we
really
don't
have
anything
to
carry
over
from
last
time,
so
I'm
gonna
move
along
to
new
business
and
the
one
major
item
that
we
have
on
our
agenda
this
evening
is
to
consider
and
review
the
transportation
element
of
the
arcata
gateway
plan
and
so
the
way
I
think
we
want
to
handle
this
this
evening,
as
we
have
david
loya
and
some
members
of
his
team
here
and
they're
going
to
give
us,
I
think
first
thing
I
want
to
do
is
ask
david
and
his
team
to
give
us
an
introduction
and
share
share
with
us
everything
that
they
want
to
share
with
us
this
evening,
and
then
I'm
going
to
suggest
that
the
committee
will
hold
our
questions
and
then
maybe,
secondly,
open
it
up
for
public
comment
in
questions.
B
I'm
not
sure
if
we
have.
You
know
a
lot
of
people
here
to
you
know
who
are
specifically
here
for
that
agenda
item,
but
we'll
allow
a
lot
of
time
for
people
to
speak
and
then
thirdly,
the
committee
members
will
weigh
in
so
I
would
just
ask-
is
while
we're
listening
to
david
and
his
team
and
then
public
comment,
if
we
have
questions
or
comments
to
just
kind
of
hold
off
and
and
we'll
get
to
us
at
the
end,
I
hope
everybody
is
okay
with
that.
B
I
think
that
maybe
is
a
little
bit
of
the
the
way
it's
been
done
before
so
nature.
A
Go
ahead,
I
just
want
to
make
sure.
Like
you
know,
the
design
team
that's
working
on
the
project
is
that
they're
one
of
the
team
partner
is
from
gst
and
we
have
one
of
the
committee
member
who
works
for
ghd.
So
I
think
this
is
a
good
time
since
we
are
considering
the
item
so.
A
He
wants
to
recuse
himself
from
this
item
the
way
we
have
done
it
now.
You
can
just
leave
this
meeting
at
least
for
this
time.
Then
you
can
come
back
josh.
G
G
B
A
B
So
with
that,
I'm
not
going
to
really
give
any
information
on
what
david's
going
to
speak
on
because
he's
been,
I
mean
I
will
say
that
you've
been
going
to
a
lot
of
doing
a
lot
of
public
outreach.
I
think
he's
been
to
every
committee
meeting
they've
done
walks
around
town
they've
done
been
at
council
meetings,
planning
commission
meetings,
so
he
probably
has
this
down
pretty
good
now
about
how
he's
going
to
you
know,
attack
this
this
evening
on
how
we're
going
to
be
hearing
it
so
david.
B
I
think
with
that.
I
just
want
to
turn
it
over
to
you
and
you
can
explain
to
us
how
you
want
to
proceed
from
there.
So
david
loyal
with
community
development.
M
All
right
great
thanks,
chair
ryan
yeah,
we
will
just.
I
think
I
think
your
plan
is
great,
we'll
follow
that
that
template
with
a
brief
staff
report,
some
information
on
the
technical
detail
that
went
into
the
planning
and
then
and
with
that
we'll
try
and
address
some
common
themes
that
we've
been
hearing
and
then
open
it
up
for
public
comment.
You
may
consider
whether
or
not
you
wish
to
you
know
time
that
public
comment.
M
M
So
with
that,
I
am
going
to
start
our
introductions
I'll
pass
it
to
our
team
that
are
here
today
and
then
we'll
circle
back
around
for
my
brief
staff
report.
So
I'm
david
loy,
I'm
the
director
of
community
development
with
the
city
of
arcata,
and
I
do
have
primary
responsibility
for
coordinating
these
efforts,
facilitating
the
public
process
and
you
know
bringing
the
plan
forward
to
the
community
and
then
bringing
that
community
engagement
back
to
the
city
council
for
decision
making.
M
N
Great,
thank
you,
david
todd,
tragenza
with
ghd,
I'm
a
transportation
planner.
It's
been
my
pleasure
working
on
this
project.
I
think
the
ghc
team
is
maybe
working
on
a
few
other
elements,
but
I'm
laser
focused
on
the
transportation
side
of
things
also
have
rosanna
southern
with
me.
She
is
well
rosanna.
Do
you
want
to
introduce
yourself.
O
Sure,
thanks,
I'm
also
a
transportation
planner
background
with
lots
of
transportation
and
engineering
as
well.
So
not
not.
I
don't
know
what
what
more
to
say
to
that,
but
happy
to
support
todd
any
any
questions
that
come
up
thanks.
M
Great
thanks,
so
I
will
keep
my
presentation
brief,
so
that
we
can
save
most
of
the
time
for
community
input
and
deliberations,
but
I
did
want
to
take
just
a
moment
to
share
with
you
the
mobility
section.
I
know
I
included
in
your
packet,
but
just
to
orient
real
high
level
and
then
to
talk
about
some
of
the
key
elements
and
then
todd
and
rosanna
will
go
into
some
technical
detail
and
they
they
will
also
try
and
keep
it
brief
just
so
we
give
a
well-rounded
sort
of
summary
and
open
it
up.
M
Okay,
so
the
mobility
section
mobility
covers,
you
know
broader
range
than
just
circulation,
but
this
is
essentially
the
circulation
element
of
this
element
of
the
general
plan.
If
you
will
starting
out
with
some
of
the
overview
sort
of
setting
the
stage-
and
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
this
in
detail
now.
But
you
know
this
is
important.
There's
something
that's
in
here
that
you
feel
like
doesn't
necessarily
mesh
up
with
what
you
believe
the
city's
goals
are
for
mobility.
M
We
should
talk
about
those,
but
the
mobility
strategy
overall
is
to
provide
a
well-balanced
transportation
system
that
accommodates
not
only
motorized
vehicles
but
alternative
transportation
and
non-motorized
vehicles,
as
well
as
pedestrian.
M
The
first
couple
of
pages
figure,
eight
and
nine
show
the
the
vehicular
access
it
new
vehicular
access
in
yellow
and
existing
vehicular
access
and
white,
highlighting
these
couplets
of
runways
and
then
trail
connectivity
on
figure.
Nine,
now
I'll
point
out
just
at
the
super
high
level
that
what
this
plan
is
proposing
to
do
is
to
make
k
street
one
way,
northbound
one
lane
of
traffic
to
approximately
14th
street.
Here
specific
details
need
to
be
resolved
and
then
l
street
would
be
a
one-way
southbound
out
to
samoa.
M
Project
specific
level
detail
that
needs
to
be
gotten
into
before
this
can
be
implemented,
but
if
this
is
ultimately
what
the
city
adopts,
this
will
be
our
long-range
vision
for
circulation
to
handle
growth
and
development
through
the
city
as
time
goes
on.
As
many
of
you
know,
k
street
right
now
is
already
highly
impacted
and
k.
N11
is
identified
as
a
significant
intersection
of
concern.
M
We
would
also
extend
9th
street
one-way
couplet,
with
8th
street
around
through
the
creamery
district,
circling
around
the
creamery
building
proper
hanging,
a
left
on
in
street
and
then
coming
back
8th
street.
So
we'd
have
these
two
new
one-way
couplets
shown
in
yellow.
M
The
policy
comes
next.
We
tried
to
accommodate
that
full
range
of
complete
streets,
alternative
transportation,
ada
improvements,
etc
in
this
policy.
If
you
have
specific
comments
on
this
policy,
we'd
love
to
hear
that
going
into
mobility
concepts.
The
gateway
plan
shows
what
the
streetscapes
could
look
like
in
the
future
describes
to
the
community.
What
we
mean
by
you
know,
class
1,
class,
2,
bulb
outs
and
these
kinds
of
features
so
we're
all
using
a
common
language
around
this
and
then
really
it
digs
into
after
that.
M
What
specifically
is
being
proposed
for
upgrades
to
these
streets
and
how
we
provide,
for
you
know,
bicycle
and
pedestrian
safety,
while
also
increasing
you
know
the
level
of
service
there.
M
The
next
set
is
the
series
of
map
books
that
show
key
intersections
first
and
then
all
of
the
intersections,
and
so
we
can
go
back
into
this
and
look
at
these
in
more
detail.
If
you
have
specific
questions,
but
I
just
wanted
to
orient
you
real
quick
to
these
map
books,
so
they
go
through
all
of
the
improvements
that
are
proposed,
one
that
you
know
I
can't
say
for
certain,
but
and
maybe
todd
you
can
weigh
in
on
this.
M
But
if
built
out,
this
may
be
the
first
bicycle
roundabout
in
humboldt
county,
and
maybe
I
don't
know
even
greater
distances,
so
that
is
sort
of
what
the
mobility
section
encompasses
on
a
super
super
high
level,
I'm
going
to
leave
the
specific
detail
about
how
these
improvements
affect
pedestrian
bicycle
safety
to
to
todd,
to
kind
of
touch
on
a
little
bit,
but
the
key.
M
The
key
thing
I
want
to
leave
you
with
from
my
presentation,
is
that
this
improvement
to
the
existing
street
infrastructure
really
puts
a
high
emphasis
on
ensuring
that
there's
access
for
bikes,
heads
and
and
not
only
on
the
the
segregated
trails,
but
on
the
existing
infrastructure
to
improve
safety.
There
can
I
turn
it
over
to
you
and
you
can
tell
me
which
of
these
pages.
You
want
me
to
flip
to
perfect.
N
Yeah,
maybe
one
that
shows
the
overview
david
towards
the
beginning
of
that.
Yes,
this
is
good.
Thank
you.
Okay,
yeah,
as
david
mentioned,
you
know
we,
our
preferred
plan
does
create
this
new
one-way
couplet.
This
was
not
a
decision
that
we
made
lightly,
but
we
had
a
challenge
here.
On
the
one
hand,
we
have
this
greenfield
open
area
in
the
barrel
district.
N
That
was
that
had
no
real
plan
and-
and
it
was
fun
to
you-
know-
think
creatively
about
how
to
design
that,
on
the
other
hand,
we
had
the
built
environment
that
had
a
lot
of
constraints,
and
we
knew
our
guiding
philosophy
was
really
to
make
this
not
only
just
the
gateway
district
but
generally
for
the
city
of
arcata,
make
this
really
a
pedestrian
bicycle
first
circulation
system,
and
so
the
the
challenge
we
came
we
ran
into
was,
I
think
again,
as
david
mentioned
eleventh
and
k
being
a
relatively
congested
intersection
today
by
arcata
standards
and
in
the
future,
more
so
the
all
the
the
opportunities
to
to
fix
that
congestion
or
make
it
a
safer
and
make
sure
that
the
operational
issues
don't
in
turn
cause.
N
You
know
environmental
delays
and
all
that
meant
we
had
to
do
something.
So
that
was
one
constraint
and
the
the
couplet
system
does
alleviate
that
issue
without
requiring
any
new
traffic
signals,
or
anything
like
that.
Another
that
the
couplet
offers
is
a
a
dramatic
improvement
of
the
bicycle
and
pedestrian
amenities
on
the
existing
alignment
of
k
street.
So
if
again,
if
we
didn't
look
at
an
alternative
location
for
the
southbound
vehicles,
then
you
know
we
would
need
to
look
at
additional
space
for
the
vehicles
on
k.
N
Obviously
it
is
not
an
easy
alignment.
There
is
a
a
a
trail
on
it
today
which
we're
very
cognizant
of,
and
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
looking
at
how
that
trail
could
be
maintained
to
the
extent
possible.
Our
cross
section
does
maintain
a
a
separated
class
one
bikeway
through
the
the
l
street
corridor
at
the
northern
most
end
near
alliance.
N
We
have
to
veer
west
in
our
plan
where
the
the
southbound
essentially
exit
from
alliance
would
head
south
and,
in
any
case,
any
more
questions
on
on
the
the
couplet
arrangement
I'm
happy
to
take.
We
were
also
cognizant
of
maintaining
on-street
parking
where
we're
feasible,
but
we
did
look
at
bulb
outs
at
all
the
intersections.
N
Actually,
this
reminds
me
this
is
something
important
to
note.
Is
that
really,
I
think,
all
of
the
intersections
that
would
result
from
implementation
of
this
plan
would
be
safer
in
in
by
that
I
mean
less
exposure
for
a
cyclist
or
a
pedestrian
than
today's
intersections.
We've
shortened
the
crossings,
wherever
possible,
on
k
and
l,
we've
actually
eliminated
one
direction
of
conflict
and
so
similar
to
some
of
the
pedestrian
benefits
of
a
roundabout.
Basically,
the
pedestrian
only
has
to
cross
one
direction
of
traffic
at
a
time.
N
Besides
the
the
l
street
alignment,
we
have,
of
course,
one
internal
roadway
through
the
barrel
district,
but
this
is
all
in
line
with
trying
to
create
a
district
that
can
be
lived
in
comfortably
and
and
conveniently
without
needing
to
own
an
auto,
so
it
it
is
a
relatively
light
footprint
of
streets
when
compared
to
the
existing
street
grid
density
east
of
the
barrel
district.
N
N
I
will
also
note
that
there
is
a
very
useful
walkthrough
of
the
mobility
element
posted
on
the
city's
website.
I
think
it
walks
a
pedestrian
through
the
journey
from
the
existing
town
square
to
the
new.
You
know
down
the
exist,
the
new
one-way
couplets
and
the
creamery
area
and
the
the
barrel
district.
M
Looks
like
there's,
maybe
one
question
I'll
leave
it
to
the
chair,
whether
we
should
finalize
the
staff
report
first
or.
B
E
Karina
go
ahead.
This
is
just
a
quick
one,
so
you're
gonna
put
a
new
road
in
front
of
wing.
Are
we
planning
on
moving
them
or
just
putting
a
road
there
in
their
front
yard,.
M
The
so
again,
this
is
a
really
high
level
plan.
At
this
point,
we've
shown
the
road
here
I
believe,
you're,
referring
to
this
one
right
here
that
overlays
the
existing
rail
spur
that
goes
through
this
property.
M
It
would
be
down
to
a
specific
design
level
detail
where
this
road
actually
lands.
Does
that
make
sense,
so
the
intent
isn't
that
we're
relocating
this
plan
isn't
intended
to,
nor
does
it
propose
to
relocate
any
business
or
any
land
property,
but
what
it
does
intend
to
do
is
to
convey
sort
of
a
high
level
plan
for
future
vision.
We
want
to
include
a
road
that
goes
through
this
property
and
then
the
engineering
level
detail
will
establish
exactly
where
that
road
goes.
M
B
N
I'll
make
a
few
more
notes
and
then
david.
If
I
missed
anything,
please
let
me
know
on
ninth
and
eighth,
we
provided
some
typical
cross-sections,
some
examples
of
where
we
could
widen
out
the
sidewalks
and
provide
additional
public
space,
including
has
shown
on
the
screen
here
along
the
m
street
alignment,
looking
at
what
a
pedestrian
only
or
bike
and
pedestrian
walkway
could
look
like
between
blocks
so
continuing
that
grid
density,
but
keeping
it
free
of
auto
of
vehicles.
N
So
the
the
transportation,
the
mobility
element
really
is
intended
to
support
and
and
foster
the
type
of
of
economic
development
and
and
land
use,
intensification
that
is
envisioned
otherwise.
In
the
gateway
district
plan.
N
There
are
also
quite
an
extensive
amount
of
new
class
one
trails
proposed
in
including
one
that
would
head
west
out
of
arcata
and
then
a
connection
north
to
alliance
tying
into
the
existing
rail
and
trail
alignment
that
would
again
be
deviated
slightly
at
the
northernmost
end.
N
M
I
guess
the
only
thing
that
I'll
all
conclude
with
is
you
know.
There's
you
know
been
some
questions
about.
You
know:
how
are
we
using
this,
this
public
engagement,
so
we're
gonna,
we're
about
to
open
it
up
to
the
public.
They're
gonna
make
a
lot
of
comments,
the
planning
or
the
I'm
sorry,
the
transportation
safety
committee
is
gonna.
Make
a
lot
of
comments.
They're
gonna
have
some
discussion.
Ultimately
that
will
generate
recommendation.
M
M
So
we're
going
to
take
all
of
this
information
that
we
gather
at
this
meeting
and
other
meetings
convey
that
to
the
city
council,
and
they
will
have
to
make
some
some
difficult
decisions
because
you
may
hear
today
differences
of
opinion
about
you
know
how,
on
the
mark
or
off
the
mark,
this
plan
currently
is
so
taking
all
of
that
information,
and
then
the
the
policy
decision-making
body
as
a
city
council
they'll,
be
weighing
that
you
know
that
policy
decision
at
the
end
you
know
do
we
want
to
you
know,
give
more
weight
towards
vehicles.
M
Do
we
want
to
give
more
weight
towards
bicycles?
Do
we
want
to
ensure
that
there's
enough,
you
know
parking
so
that
every
single
unit
has
a
parking
space?
All
of
these
questions
will
be
resolved.
Ultimately,
when
the
city
council,
you
know,
gives
direction
to
staff,
to
finalize
the
document
and
settle
on
a
framework,
so
that's
sort
of
like
the
next
couple
of
months
process
that
we're
looking
at
is
trying
to
get
that
framework
in
place.
M
M
So
with
that,
I
think
you
know
to
the
chair's
pleasure
we'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
or
open
it
up
to
public
comment.
B
Okay,
great,
thank
you
david.
I
think
what
I
want
to
do
is
a
couple
of
things
here.
First
of
all,
we
are
the
transportation
safety
committee,
so
we
do
have
a
focus
here
this
evening
that
we're
looking
at
circulation
changes
in
traffic
patterns,
we're
looking
at
trails,
all
forms
of
transportation,
walking
pedestrian
bikes
vehicles.
B
So
I
think
this
is
an
opportunity
you
guys
are
here
as
the
team
who
are
working
on
this
to
hear
from
us
and
it's
an
opportunity
for
the
public
to
weigh
in
on
those
items.
Obviously
you
know
we
can
entertain
talking
about
other
things.
You
know
things
overlap
evolve.
They
they
tie
in
quality
of
life.
Issues
that
you
know
go
to.
This
can
be
tied
back
to
safety
issues
and
traffic
issues.
So
you
know
we're
not
saying
we're
just
going
to
stay.
B
Super
super
focused
and
specific,
but
I
would
just
like
to
remind
that
this
is
the
transportation
element
that
we're
looking
at
this
evening
and
I
wouldn't
mind
getting
some
kind
of
a
a
rough
show
of
hands.
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
see
it.
I
don't
think,
but
nature
could
tell
us
how
many
people
think
they're
going
to
be
wanting
to
comment.
Could
you
somehow,
maybe
I
guess
yeah
they
would
put
their
hands
upside
down.
A
I'll
just
make
an
announcement
person
who
wants
to
speak
on
this
item.
Can
you
please
raise
your
hand?
I
think
I
have
a
list
so
far
with
one
two,
three,
four,
five,
six,
seven,
eight
nine
at
least
nine
raised
hand
who
wants
to
speak
on
the
item
and
there
may
be
more
who
have
not
raised
hand
now,
but
they
made
later,
but
so,
let's
assume
maybe
10
to
12,
definitely
be
speaking
at
this
time.
A
So
generally,
we
have
done
like
a
three
minutes.
Speaking
time,
you
know
at
some
meetings
we
have
done
two
minutes,
but
it's
up
to
you
how
you
want
to
distribute
that
now
the
number
has
gone
down
to
seven,
but
I
think
it
will
keep
all
keep
on
changing.
So,
let's
assume
we
will
have
at
least
ten
speakers
and
based
on
that,
you
can
make
them
here.
B
Sure
yeah,
if
we
had
ten
speakers
and
if
people
were
you
know
going
three
or
four
minutes,
that'd
be
30
or
40
minutes
and
then
of
course,
I'm
sure
the
committee
has
a
desire
to
with
some
questions
yeah.
I
think
I
would
like
to
maybe
start
out
and
try
to
hold
to
the
three
minutes.
I've
got
a
timer
and
just
ask
people.
You
know
to
kind
of
gauge
gauge
themselves,
also
keeping
in
mind
that
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
people
that
that
want
to
speak
so
yeah.
B
Why
don't
we?
When
we
get
to
it
nature,
I'll?
Let
you
introduce
the
the
people
by
name
who
are
going
to
speak
and
let's
start
that
portion
of
the
meeting.
A
P
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can
my
name's
john
winslower
slack
and
windsor
properties.
I
was
hoping
that
todd
could
maybe
elaborate
a
little
bit
more
on
the
l
street
samoa
boulevard
intersection
and
how
those
turn
lanes
are
going
to
impact
ingress
and
egress
to
the
properties
across
the
street,
the
slack
and
windsor
properties
and
the
old
industrial
electric
properties
and
turn
back
my
time,
you're
gonna.
Let
you
take
it
over.
A
Okay,
so
we'll
just
move
to
next
speaker,
then.
M
Yeah
and
in
terms
of
process,
I
would
suggest
that
we
hold
responses
till
the
end
yeah.
A
J
Hello
again
so
yeah
I've
said
this
before,
but
since
it's
the
tsc
I'll
say
it
again,
which
is
that
I
I
do
think
that
this
is
the
most
bike
and
pedestrian
friendly
plan
that
I've
seen
in
this
in
this
area
proposed,
and
so
I'm
very
excited
about
that
and
and
grateful
staff
for
having
for
having
done
that.
J
One
particular
comment
on
that
that
I'll
make
is
that
I
think
you
know
this
is
somewhat
outside
of
the
usual
area
of
the
tsc,
but
the
the
density
and
the
mixture
of
uses
and
the
location
are
some
of
the
key
elements
that
make
it
so
walkable
and
bikeable,
and
so
I
think
that
those
are
kind
of
inherently
you
know
part
of
the
consideration.
J
Another
couple
of
specific
things
I'd
like
to
highlight
one
is
that
crtp
doesn't
usually
support
new
one-way
couplets,
but
the
fact
that
these
are
going
to
be
one
lane
each
means
that
that's
something
that
we
can
can
really
strongly
support.
Is
you
know
that
minimization
of
crossing
distance
and
and
minimization
of
of
the
potential
conflicts
with
pedestrians
and
bicycles?
J
There
are,
of
course,
a
few
things
that
you
know
we'd
like
to
see
changed
or
improved,
and
we've
provided
specific
comments
to
staff
and
to
the
council
and
planning
commission
and
I'd
be
happy
to
send
those
to
the
tsc
as
well,
if
you're
interested,
but
two
things
that
I'll
highlight
one.
Is
that
we'd
like
to
see
a
somewhat
wider
minimum
distance
for
the
sidewalks,
so
that
this
can
be
a
truly
pedestrian
zone?
And
I
know
that
is
the
intent.
J
But
currently
the
minimum
sidewalk
width
width
in
the
plan
is
six
feet
and
we
think
that
you
know
with
all
of
the
sidewalk
furniture
and
things
like
that
that
we're
hoping
will
be
there.
That
might
not
be
enough,
and
the
other
thing
is-
and
I
know
this
is
challenging
for
some
reasons.
J
But
11th
street
goes
right
through
the
plan
and
and
it
would
be
really
good
to
see
some
bike
infrastructure
on
11th
street
to
sort
of
complete
that
network,
and
I,
as
I
said,
we
have
more
detailed
comments
which
I'm
happy
to
provide
if
you're
interested,
but
in
general
we
strongly
support
the
plan.
J
B
Todd
would
you
please
forward
those
to
staff,
so
maybe
they
can
share
those
with
committee.
I
would
be
interested
in
those
details.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
right
after
that,
I
got
nancy
nancy
ortiz.
B
Q
Hi,
I
wanted
to
say
that
your
plan
sounds
really
great.
I
just
I'm
just
wondering
how
realistic
it
is
to
think
that
people
will
not
use
cars
or
even
own
cars,
because
I
think
the
ideas
are
based
on
that
and
I
love
that
idea.
Q
But
I
just
I
really
don't
see
that
happening,
and
then
I'm
also
wondering,
if
it's
possible
for
you
to
inform
everybody
by
mail,
each
residence,
because
a
lot
of
people
don't
pay
attention,
they're
busy,
raising
their
kids,
working
and
and
so
on,
and
so
I
I
think
everyone
would
want
to
weigh
in
since
traffic
is
such
a
big
issue,
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
could
comment
on
the
the
realisticness
of
people
not
having
a
car
and
then
my
husband
would
like
to
speak
now.
R
Okay,
my
name's
david
morman,
I
live
down
on
27th
street
and
I'm
actually
really
excited
about
your
plan
for
the
gateway.
What
what
concerns
me
is
it's.
It
seems
like
it
necessarily
interfaces
with
your
the
idea
of
infill
in
the
arcata
area,
and
I
just
again
now
we're
talking
about
more
and
more
and
more
traffic
issues.
R
So
my
comment
has
to
do
with
that,
but
but
I
think
it
must
have
to
do
with
the
gateway
plan
as
well,
because
if,
if
you,
if
you
see
what's
been
happening
even
recently
over
the
last
several
years
when
as
soon
as
people
put
new
dwellings
in
their
backyards
or
whatever
there's
more
traffic
on
the
street,
there's
more
cars
and
trucks
on
lawns,
it
really
impacts,
not
just
traffic,
although
that
as
well
but
just
the
feel
of
of
the
neighborhood.
R
Everything
is
getting
more
crowded
and
I'm
I'm
afraid
with
this
idea
that
we
just
want
to
fill
every
space
with
more
dwellings
that
that's
going
to
become
really
make
arcade.
At
least
this
end
of
arcata
unlivable.
So
I'm
even
more
worried
about
infill
I'm
kind
of
suppo
in
support
of
the
gateway
plan,
but
I'm
really
concerned
about
the
infield,
so
I'm
hoping
you
can
mention
that
traffic
issue
as
well.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
So
natra
do
we
have
the
next
next
speaker.
A
H
So
I
haven't
looked
at
the
plan,
but
I'm
just
kind
of
you
know
getting
back
into
the
shape
of
things.
So
I'd
say
just
on
cursory.
I
really
kind
of
like
the
look
of
it.
I
thought
that
l
street
idea,
I'm
still
kind
of
you,
know
looking
at
the
getting
an
understanding
of
that,
and
I
would
just
bring
up
if
couch
hands
has
been
contacted
yet
about
this
and
hopefully
get
in
on
the
reviewing
of
this
immediately
and
and
and
I'm
just
gonna,
throw
out
an
old
thought.
H
Some
there's
a
connection
there,
especially
with
trying
to
punch
out
slaughterhouse
road
access,
so
slaughterhouse
road
and
at
l
street
I'm
going
to
need
caltrans
there,
and
I
heard
john
speak
up
too
about
that
crossing
intersection
there,
I'm,
assuming
that
all
the
railroad
tracks
are
going
to
be
removed
and
we'll
be
able
to
do
that.
So
I
I
think
that's
going
to
be
a
timely
thing
and
make
a
lot
of
other
discussion
easier.
H
H
But
if
you
had
any
kind
of
consideration
of
a
stop
on
small
boulevard
and
and
if
or
you
could
move
traffic
over,
you
know
even
look
at
bringing
the
traffic
down
kind
of
more
through
the
core
of
town
and
just
a
question
on
how
the
infrastructure
would
be
built.
The
roadways,
not
the
the
the
civil
infrastructure
underneath
the
ground
water
sewer,
but
how
would
the
infrastructure
be
built
and
paid
for?
Would
that
be
some
type
of
an
assessment,
district
kind
of
concept
or
grants
or
some
combination?
H
And
and
when
would
that
occur?
You
know?
Is
it
going
to
be
piecemeal
kind
of
piece
by
piece
with
each
person
who
develops
an
independent,
individual
piece
of
land
or
we
will
just
have
an
overall
plan?
I'm
assuming
and
if
somebody
buys
this
lot
x,
then
we
say:
hey
here:
here's
your
here's,
your
piece
of
the
jigsaw
puzzle
and
you
need
to
do
it
and
the
only
concern
always
I
have
on
something
like
that
is
that
you
know
there's
always
going
to
be
pieces
of
the
puzzle
that
are
left
out.
H
You
never
really
kind
of
have
a
normalized
kind
of
concise,
looking
ground
system
and
then
just
as
a
consideration,
because
I
know
you
know
p,
you
know
the
big
p
is
going
to
be
the
huge
discussion
in
this
and
and
just
as
a
consideration,
a
remote
parking
lot
like
we've
even
talked
with
at
the
windsor
property,
a
remote
parking
area
where
it's,
I
don't
just
drive
over
there
or
walk
over
there
and
get
my
car.
H
But
basically
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
stow,
your
piece
of
metal
area
somewhere,
because
you
know,
I
think,
that's
probably
going
to
be
one
of
the
big
things
you're
going
to
get
hammered
with
on
this,
and
that
if
there
were
some
remote
area
for
storage
and
that
could
be
a
it
could
be
a
shed
or
it
could
be
a
car
just
as
a
consideration
that
there
would
be
some
other
type
of
an
area
for
parking,
not
that
people
you
know
need
to
get
into
the
car
immediately,
but
at
least
you
know
so
they
could
get
to
the
bay
area
or
you
know,
go
camping
or
do
whatever
it
is
that
you
know
people
might
not
be
using
cars
in
the
next
30
to
50
years.
B
Thank
you
dobie.
I
did
forget
to
start
my
timer.
I
didn't
want
to
have
to
cut
you
off,
so
you
stopped
in
perfect
time.
Okay,
nature.
What
who
do
we
have
next.
A
M
If
you'd
like
I
can,
I
could
do
the
timing
so
that
you
can
focus
on
running
the
meeting.
B
B
A
You
so
next
we
got
patricia.
L
Yes,
I
live
on
l,
street
and
they're.
There
are
a
few
issues
I
have
with
this
whole
the
turning
doing
the
one
lane
one
ways
on
these
streets.
I
had
the
pleasure
of
talking
to
justin
mcdonald
who's,
the
fire
chief
of
our
fire
district,
and
I
talked
to
him
on
the
day
that
this
plan
came
out
and
he
I
mentioned.
I
asked
him
what
his
opinion
was
with
the
one
lane
aspect
of
these
roads
and
he
didn't.
L
He
hadn't
been
notified
about
the
road
I'm
hoping
he's
since
been
notified,
but
as
of
the
day
it
came
out,
he
wasn't
notified
that
they
were
thinking
about
realigning
kay
and
putting
l
street
in
and
his
concerns
were
the
bump
outs
and
a
one
lane
road
that
really
didn't
give
him
any
radius
to
get
even
the
fire
and
the
fire
engine
that
they
have
now
around
and
with
all
the
calming
features
and
and
such.
L
So
that
is
a
concern
of
mine,
I'm
really
hoping
that
all
of
you
will
talk
with
the
fire,
our
fire
department
and
really
come
to
a
solution
with
them.
Another
thing
is:
if
we
do
one
lane,
I'm
it
doesn't
really
leave
any
room
for
those
emergency
vehicles.
If
there
is
an
accident-
or
you
know,
if
we
have
parking
on
one
side
and
bicycle
lanes
on
one
side,
how
do
they
get
through
I,
and
so
that
is
a
concern
of
mine
or
the
buses
stopping
and
blocking
traffic
deliveries.
L
These
are
all
concerns,
and
I
know
there
was
a
traffic
study
done
back
in
march
of
2017..
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
been
another
one
since
then,
but
their
concerns
with
11th
and
k.
L
If
I
am
right
we're
mainly
about
turning
radius
problems,
not
being
able
to
fit
a
roundabout
in
there
and
because
it
would
take
away
parking
from
those
businesses
on
the
corner
there
of
11th
and
k,
and
so
that
was
a
concern,
I
don't,
I
don't
think,
there's
any
recommendation
to
put
a
road
in
on
l
street.
With
that
study,
I
know
things
have
changed
with
the
gateway
plan.
Now
that's
added
to
our
infill,
so
another.
L
Another
problem
that
I
have
with
this
is
that
the
maps
that
were
done
on
this
are
very
are
not
very
clear.
They're
not
very
legible,
and
the
width
of
these
roads,
especially
the
one
on
l
street,
does
well
or
just
the
one
on
l
street
doesn't
fit
when
you
take
a
measuring
tape
from
sidewalk
to
building
to
building
it
doesn't
fit
in
most
of
these
areas.
L
On
the
both
ends
of
l
street
that
they're
gonna
punch
out,
I
know
it
doesn't
fit
between
my
building
and
the
tomas
open
door
building
where
their
offices
are.
So
that's
a
concern.
I'd
really
like
to
have
more
clarity
to
the
maps.
L
L
Okay
and
I
suggest
putting
using
the
bicycle
path
as
it
is
now
as
a
linear
park
and
keeping
l
street
small,
keeping
the
two
lanes
on
k
street
and
maybe
adding
stop
signs
or
signals
to
for
better
pedestrian
crossing
at
on
k
street
so
I'll
leave
it
there.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
hearing
me
out.
A
Okay,
we're
going
to
try
one
more
time
nancy
here.
A
Okay,
we'll
travel
next
time,
one
more
time
next
speaker
is
chris,
chris
richards.
S
Thanks
yeah,
I
don't
have
a
whole
lot.
The
last
speaker
touched
on
a
lot
of
the
a
lot
of
the
same
things
that
I
wanted
to
bring.
So
I
won't
go
too
far
with
that.
I
don't
necessarily
follow
the
logic
with
the
removal
of
one
lane
on
k
street
and
creating
another
lane
as
a
replacement
going
the
other
direction
as
a
way
to
add
more
traffic
flow
or
reduce
the
existing
flow.
I
just
see
it
as
putting
it
down
the
other
way.
I
understand
the
shorter
crossings
along
the
k
street
corridor.
S
You
know
for
the
pedestrian
safety
is,
is
one
of
the
goals
of
that
of
that
design,
and
that
I
understand
that.
I
I
think
that
there's
probably
some
other
plans
that
we
haven't
seen
that
I
would
like
to
see
and
some
other
options
that
you
know
I
don't.
S
I
don't
have
access
to
the
studies
that
you
guys
used
or
I'd
be
nice
to
see
that
those
as
well,
I
haven't,
come
across
them,
but
I
I
agree
that
you
know
like
leaving
the
existing
bike
trail
on
l
street
and
maybe
creating
a
long
linear
park
and
community
garden
would
be
more
appropriate
for
what
they're
planning
to
do.
There's
going
to
be
limited
space
for
kids
and
outdoor.
You
know
stuff
for
the
community,
and
that
would
be
an
ideal
place
to
do
that.
S
I
think
you
could
save
a
ton
of
money
by
doing
some
other
ideas,
and
you
know
use
that
money
for
other
issues
that
are
going
to
be
rising
out
of
this
plan.
For
for
this
growth
that
we're
that
we're
all
going
to
be
experiencing
so
anyway,
that's
all
I
have
thank
you
so
much
for
all
your
efforts.
You
know
with
staff
and
with
you
guys.
A
T
T
First,
all
is
this
a
standalone
project,
or
is
it
dependent
upon
the
infill
of
the
rest
of
gateway
being
approved
by
city
council,
the
housing
units,
or
will
the
transportation
and
the
whole
project
about
transportation
come
about
even
if
it's
not
approved
to
do
the
housing
units?
T
My
second
question
is
about
maybe
a
parking
garage,
because
the
way
this
is
going
to
be
done,
it
seems
like
there's
not
very
many
places
for
cars
to
park
with
the
way
it's
being
proposed
and
it
might
work
for
the
residents
that
live
here
now
or
even
in
the
future,
but
has
transportation
considered
all
of
the
events
that
are
done
on
the
plaza
I
know
from
attending
them.
T
People
have
to
drive
way
out
to
other
streets
to
find
parking
to
participate
in
events
in
arcata,
and
I
don't
think,
there's
enough
parking,
because
I
know
I've
lost
what
10
blocks
myself
even
nowadays,
and
I
was
wondering
if
transportation
would
be
the
group
that
would
consider
a
parking
garage
somewhere
in
the
city
limits
and
the
third
one
is.
T
I
didn't
hear
anything
about
the
gateway
project,
the
funding
for
it,
and
so,
if
the
transportation
part
should
happen,
even
if
the
development
doesn't,
where
will
the
funding
come
from
to
do
all
of
this
work?
B
Great,
thank
you
appreciate
your
your
questions
and
involvement.
Thank
you.
U
Please
go
ahead,
craig,
fantastic,
somehow
the
unmute
popped
up
at
the
right
time,
I'm
concerned
about
bicycles,
because
I'm
looking
at
those
one-way
streets,
I'm
not
quite
sure
why
they're
there,
but
in
europe
on
a
street
like
that,
you
would
have
the
car
flow.
You
know
the
traffic
one
lane
you
would
have
parked
cars
on
the
other
side
of
the
park.
Cars
would
be
the
bicycle
lane.
U
So
so,
when
you're,
dr
riding,
your
bicycle
around
the
city,
you've
got
a
wall
of
stationary
vehicles,
protecting
you
from
five
thousand
pounds
of
moving
metal
and
we've
never
done
that
in
this
country.
I
think
because
most
bicycle
lanes
are
being
planned
by
people
that
don't
have
bicycles,
so
I'm
surprised
that
that
hasn't
been
considered,
especially
david.
He
rides
his
bicycle
everywhere.
So
that's
another
alternative.
U
If
you're
going
to
go
to
one
lane,
one
one
direction,
you
can
separate
the
bicycles
from
moving
traffic
by
the
parked
cars
and
it's
just
as
efficient
for
the
parked
cars.
It
saves
lives.
I've
we've
already
lost
some
people
in
san
luis
obispo
because
of
the
driver's
side
door.
Opening
that
problem-
and
the
other
thing
I
was
trying
I
was
thinking
about-
was
well.
No,
I
can't
think
of
it
anyway.
U
I
want
to
bring
that
forward
and-
and
maybe
the
committee
could
take
a
look
individually
at
european
designs
and
planning,
because
it's
been
done
in
paris
for
instance,
and
made
it
a
much
safer
way
of
traveling
on
a
bicycle.
Oh
ball
bouts,
the
problem
with
bulb
outs.
Is
it
forces
the
bicyclist
to
go
into
the
traffic
along
with
the
5
000
pounds
of
moving
metal?
U
You
have
no
option,
so
that's
that's
one
of
my
concerns
about
the
moving
the
sidewalk
out
so
that
the
pedestrian
doesn't
have
to
walk
quite
as
far
it
puts
the
bicyclist
at
risk
and
as
soon
as
I
see
a
street
with
bulb
outs,
trinidad
suggested
that
I
just
shake
my
head
because
it
it
puts
bicyclists
at
risk,
and
I
feel
that
the
future
of
transportation
is
going
to
be
bicycles,
at
least
to
some
degree.
I
And
there
you
go.
Thank
you.
Well,
the
last
speaker
kind
of
talked
about
some
of
the
same
things.
I
wondered
if
he
had
looked
at
any
of
the
european
models,
because
we
I'm
from
denmark-
and
we
have
a
lot
of
bicycles
and
and
the
old
houses
are
close
together
and
the
streets
are
small
and
so
on,
and
I'm
sure
you
looked
at
a
lot
of
these
things.
I
You've
done
a
lot
of
work
on
this
one
of
the
things
which
sounds
really
weird,
but
you
know
he
also
brought
it
up
about
the
people
walking
one
direction
and
the
bike's
going
one
direction.
I
That
would
be
really
good
for
covet
if
one
side
of
the
street
was
for
walking
one
way
and
one
walking
the
other
way,
so
you
don't
keep
running
into
each
other,
and
then
I
was
thinking.
Have
you
thought
about
the
water
rising?
Are
we
not
talking
about
the
next
10
years
or
have
you
looked
at
the
water
table
and,
what's
what's
being
anticipated,.
I
J
street
and
people
are
always
walking
by
my
little
place
here
and
I
love
seeing
it
and
they're
all
going
down
to
the
marsh.
It's
just
so
nice
and
let's
see
what
else.
Oh
yeah.
I
have
a
real
pet
peeve,
there's
one-way
streets
over
from
me
over
towards
h,
and
I
always
have
to
try
to
really
remember
where
they
are
and
when
you're
coming
across
their
their
teams.
I
They
tend
to
speed
up
when
they're
on
one-way
street
and
if
there's
a
truck
parked
to
the
left
of
me
as
I'm
about
to
cross
after
I
come
up
from
a
stop
sign.
I
can't
see-
and
I'm
trying
to
see
if
you
know
if
it's
two-way,
I'm
trying
to
look
to
the
right
nobody's
there,
I'm
trying
to
look
for
pedestrians
and
then
these
cars
zooming
in
from
samoa,
I
don't
know,
is
there
any
way
we
could
keep
trucks
in
the
middle
of
the
block
or
something
like
that.
I
A
I
think
at
this
point
everybody
has
spoken
on
the
item.
I'm
gonna
try
one
more
time.
Nancy
lee
your
hand
is
still
up
it's
from
last
time,
I'm
hoping,
but
I'm
gonna
start
with
nancy.
First.
B
And
nancy,
if
we're
having
these
technical
difficulties,
please
feel
free
to
maybe
email
your
comments
either
to
you
know
david
loya's
team
or
to
nature
katri,
and
if
you
have
any
comments
or
questions,
I'm
sure
people
will
try
their
best
to
get
get
back
with
you
and
take
your
take
your
feedback
and
try
to
answer
your
questions.
B
Okay,
if
that's
all
the
public
comment,
I
think
what
I
would
like
to
do,
while
maybe
some
of
those
questions
and
things
are
fresh
in
the
mind-
I'd
love
to
give
david's
team
a
chance,
maybe
to
address
some
of
those,
and
maybe
it
addresses
some
of
the
questions
that
committee
members
would
also
have
and
then
we'll
get
into
letting
the
committee
give
some
feedback
so
david
or
todd
either.
One
of
you
want
to
take
some
of
the
the
things
that
you
heard.
M
I
could
jump
in
first
and
then
there
are
a
couple
of
technical
questions.
I
think
you
would
be
better
to
to
address
so
I'll,
just
kind
of
do
it
in
order
that
I
heard
them
in
there
was
a
question
about
starting
with
you
know:
how
does
the
plan
accommodate
the
property
across
the
street
by
mr
winslower
and
a
shared
screen
for
a
couple
of
answers,
because
some
of
these
have
been
addressed
already?
This
is
the
intersection
in
question
proposed
new
intersection.
M
If
you
will
for
the
humboldt
state
property-
and
you
can
see
that
currently,
the
proposal
is
to
have
the
road
alignment
come
through.
This
is
the
property
that
comes
that
wing
is
located
on,
come
through
that
property
wrap
around
following
the
alignment
of
the
rail
corridor
matching
up
with
q
street
here
and
that
would
create
you
know,
intersection
at
q,
along
with
the
existing
property
across
street,
that
hsu
owns
in
the
diagram.
M
The
sorry
I'm
going
to
jump
around
a
little
bit
here
in
the
sort
of
cartoonish
diagram
that
we
had
to
show
a
proposed
intersection.
Oh
gosh,
one
more!
There
we
go,
you
could
see
this
middle
road.
Also
being
proposed
as
a
potential,
so
this
again
would
have
to
line
up
and
ensure
that
it,
you
know,
meets
up
with
the
existing
crossings.
There's
another
one
here,
l
street
would
be
just
opposite
of
the
windsor
psych
property,
and
so
right
now
this
is
high
level.
M
And
so,
when
we
got
down
to
project
level
detail
we
would
get
into
exactly
what
those
looked
like
and
we'd
make
sure
that
the
intersections
and
the
you
know,
turn
lanes
and
and
all
of
those
improvements
accommodated
existing
and
planned
uses.
M
The
second
one
you
know
suggestions
there
were
several
suggestions
for
how
to
make
modifications
to
the
plan
to
better
improve
them.
I
won't
address
them
all.
I
will
say
that
we'll
forward
those
on
to
the
you
know
various
decision-making
bodies,
and
certainly
if
the
transportation
safety
committee
has
some
input
on
those
we'd
love
to
hear
that
as
well.
M
But
I
will,
I
will
mention
that,
in
terms
of
wider
sidewalks,
one
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
with
the
design
element
of
this
is
to
require
that,
especially
on
certain
street
frontages,
that
the
building
setback
be
incorporated
into
the
the
look
and
feel
of
the
the
street
frontage
and
so
you'd
have
what
would
appear
to
be
a
wider
sidewalk.
M
Pedestrians
would
actually
be
walking
on
private
property,
so
we
wouldn't
require
an
extraction
that
they,
you
know,
dedicate
those
those
sidewalk
areas
to
the
city,
but
the
sidewalk
would
be
expanded
onto
private
property
and
give
us
a
little
bit
of
a
buffer
in
most
parts
of
the
city.
So
the
mobility
plan
shows
real,
specifically,
what's
going
to
be
in
the
private
public
right-of-way,
and
then
there
will
be
other
design
elements
that
show
additional
sidewalks.
So
it's
you
know
we
do
want
to
make
this
a
walking
community.
M
There
were
several
questions.
I
will
I'll
address
this
because
there
was
a
concern
about
you
know
how
realistic
is
it
to
expect
people
to
not
have
cars?
This
is
you
know
again.
It's
a
policy
question
that
the
the
city
council
is
going
to
have
to
weigh
how
much
area
to
commit
to
various
uses.
This
plan
is
comprehensive
in
that
it
provides
for
a
quality
of
life.
M
With
you
know,
public
public
open
space,
privately
held
public
open
space,
there's
tons
of
trails
in
there
all
of
those
take
away
from
the
area
that
we
could
be
committing
to
housing,
which
is
another
primary
goal
of
this
area.
M
Similarly,
with
with
parking,
we
can
either
commit
spaces
to
you,
know
housing
vehicles
or
we
can
commit
spaces
to
housing
people,
and
so
that's
a
policy
decision
that
ultimately,
the
city
council
is
going
to
have
to
weigh
in
on.
There
were
some
other
comments
that
were
made
about
you
know:
can
we
do
off-site
parking?
M
You
know
shared
parking
and
there
are
plans
to
include
those
kinds
of
amenities,
but
but
an
overarching
goal
of
this
plan
area
is
to
make
it
so
that
if
people
don't
want
to
have
a
car
or
can
live
a
car
free
lifestyle,
this
neighborhood
would
provide
the
infrastructure
to
allow
them
to
be
able
to
do
that,
and
we
hope
that
over
time
more
and
more
people
will
choose
to
do
that,
but
that
there
will
be
some
growing
pains.
I
don't
want
to
blow
smoke
here.
M
There
will
be
some
growing
pains
in
the
interim
before
some
of
this
infrastructure
is
built
out
and
the
pinch
on
parking
spaces
or
the
additional
traffic.
Before
we
get.
You
know
the
the
lk
street,
if
that's
ultimately,
what's
approved
before
we
get
that
couplet
built
out
k
street
is
going
to
get
more
traffic,
and
so
there
will
be
some
growing
pains.
M
M
The
general
plan
is
a
20-year
planning
document,
that's
city-wide
that
will
also
address
circulation,
and
so,
if
you're
concerned
about
these
issues
in
the
gateway
and
you're
concerned
about
them,
city-wide,
please
stay
tuned
stay
plugged
in
sign
up
for
our
e-notifications
you'll,
get
notified
about
when
we're
having
city
engagements
on
these
topics
and
you'll
be
able
to
weigh
in
and
hear
what's
going
on
and
learn
what
we're
planning
to
do
about
that.
M
But
we
do
plan
to
evaluate
growth,
the
city's
you
know
planned
growth
and
how
that
will
affect
traffic
city-wide.
M
There
were
several
comments
about
suggestions
for
for
improvements
to
the
plan,
but
the
one
that
I
wanted
to
address
that
has
been
a
recurring
theme
and
a
few
people
asked
this
tonight
is:
how
is
this
stuff
going
to
get
built
who's
going
to
pay
for
it,
and
right
now
we're
at
again
a
high-level
planning
process.
M
We
don't
have
resolved
exactly
how
it's
going
to
get
paid
for
that
will
come
if
if
these
high-level
plans
are
approved-
and
we
say
yes,
this
is
the
vision,
then
we'll
start
working
on.
How
do
we
pay
for
it?
It's
a
little
cart
before
the
horse
to
go
out
and
start
planning
for
how
we're
going
to
pay
for
it
without
even
having
direction
from
the
community
and
the
council
that
these
are
the
improvements
that
we
actually
in
fact
want,
and
so
I
know
it's
not
really
satisfying
if
you're
really
itching
to
find
out.
M
How
is
this
stuff
going
to
get
paid
for
to
hear?
Well,
we
don't
know
yet,
but
what
I
can
tell
you
is
this
is
that
in
the
past,
when
these
major
infrastructure
projects
are
built,
it
does
take
a
whole
lot
of
different
types
of
strategies,
and
so
all
of
the
options
are
on
the
table:
everything
from
an
assessment
district
to
grants
and
loans
to
bonds,
we're
looking
at
forming
enhanced
infrastructure
financing
district,
which
is
sort
of
like
a
reboot
of
redevelopment.
M
If
that
makes
any
sense
to
anyone,
can
I
you
can
call
me
and
we'll
talk
more
about
it.
So
all
options
are
on
the
table
right
now
and
the
intent
is
to
try
and
secure
as
much
outside
funding
state
funding,
federal
funding
as
possible
that
doesn't
translate
into
a
loan
so
that
it
reduces
the
burden
on
the
residents
and
the
businesses
in
the
city
of
arcata,
so
that
that
is
more
more
to
come
on
that
one
as
well.
M
There
are
a
lot
of
concerns
about
process
the
process
that
we've
gone
through.
You
know
they're
they're,
I
you
know
fully
acknowledged
that
you
know
there
are
always
things
that
we
can
do
better.
We
want
to
continually
constantly
improve,
so
we
appreciate
those
those
inputs-
and
we
are
sharing
this
with
all
of
our
agency
partners
and
we'll
ensure
that
we
continue
to
do
so
that
they
have
good
feedback
on
them
as
well.
M
In
terms
of
you
know,
the
connectedness,
the
interconnectivity
between
you,
know
this
plan
for
traffic
infrastructure,
pedestrian
infrastructure
and
the
plan
for
growth.
If
that
there
is
some
coupling
there,
you
know,
ultimately
we
can
downscale
our.
You
know
our
plans,
for
you
know
some
of
these
infrastructure
pieces
if
we
don't
have
the
planned
growth,
but
they're
not
100
connected.
M
So
you
know
there
are
elements
of
this
circulation
plan
that
will
ultimately
get
into
the
general
plan,
regardless
of
how
much
development
potential
is
is
planned
for
in
this
area.
So,
even
if,
even
if
the
you
know
the
the
infill
potential
of
this
particular
area
scaled
down,
many
of
these
elements
for
the
transportation
will
still
be
included
in
the
general
plan.
Updates
that
we're
proposing
there
was
a
concern
about
the
ball
balance.
I
did
want
to
just
address
this
real
quick,
because
the
plan
is
actually,
you
know,
addresses
that
so
whoops.
M
Sorry
fumbling
a
little
bit
here,
so
you
can
still
see
my
screen
correct.
M
Yes,
okay,
so
here's
an
example
of
where
you
know
the
bulb
outs
are
made
on
one
side
and
then
the
bike
lane
is
on
the
other
side,
so
the
bike
doesn't
actually
isn't
forced
to
go
out
into
the
lane
of
traffic.
They
maintain
their
lane
of
traffic.
M
Many
of
the
improvements
on
you
know,
k
and
l
currently
have
you
know
not
much
of
a
barrier
here.
We've
heard
that
from
many
people
that
they
want
to
see
more
of
a
barrier,
and
so
that
is
something
that
we're
evaluating
I'll.
Let
todd
speak
to
some
of
the
planning
and
transportation
details
around
why
we
don't
have
a
separated
parking
lane
to
protect
those
bicyclists.
N
Based
on
design
yeah,
we
you
know,
we
we
looked
at
a
variety
of
different
bikeway
treatments.
We
we
felt
ultimately
that
there
were,
we
have
different
gradations
of
of
of
bike
facilities
and
they
could
be
described.
There's
a
terminology
we
use
in
assessing
them
called
level
of
traffic,
stress
and
level
of
traffic
stress
one
is
is
a
facility
that
would
be
approachable
for
all
ages
and
abilities
level
of
strength.
Traffic
stress
four
is
on
the,
so
it
goes
one
to
four
number.
N
Four
is
the
the
most
challenging,
where
only
you
know
the
fearless
and
very
confident
riders
would
bike.
So
that's
kind
of
the
the
framework
we
think
about
these
facilities
and
these
networks
within
and
with
the
l
street
trail
alignment
immediately
west
of
k.
N
We
felt
that
that
was
an
appropriate
level
of
traffic
stress
one.
You
know
a
high,
highly
accessible,
highly
approachable,
bikeway
multi-directional,
whereas-
and
some
cyclists
may
attest
to
this-
that
are
on
this
call.
There
are
still
cyclists
that
prefer
to
be
able
to
weave
in
and
out
of
traffic
and
have
that
freedom
of
motion,
and
so
we
kept
it
a
a
at-grade
class
ii,
bikeway
on
k
and
elsewhere
in
the
plan
as
well.
There
are
still
those
class
2
facilities,
because
some
cyclists
do
prefer
to
be
in
that
environment
now.
N
Design
c,
which
is
shown
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen,
shows
how
that
same
cross
section
if
desired,
could
be
converted
to
something
more
physically
separated
from
the
vehicles
and
that
can
be
accomplished
by
bringing
the
bikeway
up
to
sidewalk
level,
it
could
be
at
half
height,
there's
a
variety
of
different
options.
What
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we
did
here
is
reserve
that
horizontal
space
on
the
cross
section
to
accommodate
a
high
quality
bikeway
for
a
variety
of
different
abilities.
N
One
more
thing
I
might
say
about
the
parking
protected
those
class
four
bikeways
are
something
we
discussed.
They
pose
some
challenges.
They
become
quite
challenging.
If
you
have
a
lot
of
driveways
and
intersections,
you
end
up
having
gaps
in
that
protection.
N
For
for
the
cyclist,
you
also
end
up
with
a
lot
less
parking,
so
there's
trade-offs
every
which
way
you
slice
it.
Also
one
of
the
things
that
was
mentioned
was
fire
and
emergency
access
a
lot
of
times.
What
they'll
be
looking
for
is
what
is
your
curb
to
curb
with,
and
if
you
end
up
putting
in
curbs
to
protect
your
bikeway,
you
end
up
reducing
that
curb
to
curb
width.
N
So
we
are
also
remaining
cognizant
of
that
and
making
sure
that
we
do
have
adequate
weight
to
provide
that
that
first
responder
emergency
access,
circulation.
M
No,
that
was
awesome
that
was
great,
I'm
sure,
very
informative
for
the
the
committee.
The
last
thing
I
had
on
here
to
address
was
sea
level
rise.
This
plan
is
actually
in
part,
a
part
of
our
strategy,
our
adaptation
strategy
to
ensure
that
there's
area
to
accommodate
you
know
our
growth
and
development
with
with
sea
level
rise
in
mind,
and
so
I
don't
I'm
not
prepared
at
this
point
to
go
through
the
detail
on
that,
but
certainly
stay
tuned.
M
M
That's
all
I
had
on
my
list,
so
I
love
to
turn
it
over
to
the
committee
at
this
point
and
you
know,
answer
any
questions
or
take
any
input
from
from
the
committee
as
well.
I
guess
the
last
thing
I'll
say
is
that
we
did
in
the
summer
come
forward
to
the
committee
and
get
a
rank
ranked
list
of
amenities
to
build
into
the
plan,
and
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
we
are.
We
did
not
lose
that
that
information.
M
We
built
it
into
the
plan,
it's
incorporated
in
a
high
level
in
some
of
the
amenities
descriptions
in
this
plan,
but
then
we'll
be
bringing
that
forward
as
a
part
of
the
zoning
code
that
actually
implements
this
plan.
So
the
recommendations
you
made
for
amenities
will
be
built
into
that
process,
and
people
will
have
an
opportunity
at
our
open
house,
on
the
21st
and
22nd
to
to
weigh
in
on
those
amenities
that
that
event
will
be
held
at
the
community
center
on
the
21st
and
22nd
I'll
pull
together.
B
That's
january
david
yeah.
M
This
this
january
21st
22nd
into
this
week,
we'll
be
doing
basically
an
all-day
most
day.
Open
house
exhibit
style
and
engagement,
so
people
can
come
interact
with
the
materials
and
talk
to
staff
in
person.
I'll
give
you
the
specific
time
and
dates
on
that
great.
B
Okay
with
that,
thank
you
for
for
all
that
great
information.
Thank
you
to
all
the
community
members
who
gave
gave
comment,
hopefully
they're
still
around
and
listening
or
stuck
around
long
enough
to
to
hear
your
responses
and
maybe
got
some
of
their
questions
answered
so
clearly
we're
going
to
go
a
little
bit
longer
here
this
evening.
While
we
continue
with
this
and
allow
the
committee
to
to
weigh
in
so
hopefully,
everybody's
good
for
hanging
around
for
a
little
bit
more,
this
is
fascinating,
fascinating
project.
B
I
don't
know
project
is
the
right
word:
it's
really
not
a
project,
it's
a
it's
larger
than
that.
So
with
that,
I
am
going
to
invite
committee
members
to
give
some
feedback.
If
you
have
any
questions
for
david
or
todd
who
would
like
to
go
first,
I'm
just
going
to
go
from
the
left
side
of
my
screen
karina.
Why
don't
you
go
ahead?.
E
Hi
I
took
notes.
I
took
lots
of
notes:
okay,
k
street,
getting
all
that
nice
infrastructure.
E
Do
you
have
any
plans
past
the
l
street
north
of
the
l
street
couplet
when
it
turns
to
alliance,
or
is
it
pretty
just
going
to
stop.
M
E
Okay,
so
this
means
that
11th
and
q
is
also
out
of
it.
E
Correct,
okay,
okay,
eighth
and
ninth
are
gonna,
be
one
way
how
far
the
map
shows
I
street
is
that
it
and
then
they're
gonna
go
back
to
two-way.
N
S
E
E
Yeah
and
under
ga
7j,
it
mentions
amenities
and
it
says
bike
parking
and
I
just
want
to
clarify
secure
bike
parking,
there's
nothing
secure
about
paint.
Some
of
this
may
be
a
little
too
granular
for
you.
Apologies.
M
M
E
Okay
and
a
suggestion
to
keep
off
street
parking
to
like
the
perimeter.
E
To
you
know,
behind
the
properties
to
minimize
cutouts
and
to
make
it
look
nicer.
E
E
I
noticed
you
were
one
way
or
the
other
about
the
k
street
bikeway
about
raising
it,
don't
raise
it,
don't
raise
it
if
somebody
wants
to
make
a
left
turn
to
a
business
or
something
in
mid
block,
it's
kind
of
awkward
when
you
have
to
jump
down
several
inches
or
when
you
have
a
concrete
curve
in
your
way,
so
bollards
followers
and
planters
are
great,
and
that
already
was
answered
and
a
couple
of
formatting
issues.
I
noticed
on
plan
page
22.
E
I
don't
remember
what
that
is.
We
got
that
little
brown
text
box
somebody
put
exists
instead
of
exits
and
I
notice
on
your
figures.
A
lot
of
the
street
names
are
upside
down
and
I
think
that's
pretty
much
everything.
B
All
right,
thank
you,
I'm
just
kind
of
going
left
to
right
here.
I'm
sorry!
If
I
apologize,
if
somebody
had
their
their
hand
up
sooner
but
sue,
you
have
anything.
D
My
question
was
about
what
school,
district
or
districts
would
the
children
who
live
in
this
gateway
project
be
in
and
have
someone
thought
about
school
bus
routes
through
the
area,
especially
for
primary
age?
Kids,
because
they're,
not
you,
don't
want
them
walking
very
far
between
home
and
school
and
if
it's
relatively
high
density,
I
was
just.
I
didn't
see
anything
about
school
buses
or
school
kids
and
I'd
like
to
see
that
thought
through.
M
Just
super
quick
and
high
level
on
that
I
mean
the
school
buses,
I
presume
would
be
able
to
use
the
same
bus
infrastructure
we
built
out
for
city
buses
and
we,
I
don't
know
the
districts.
I
can't
answer
that
question,
but
what
I
can
say
is
that
we'd
love
to
see
new
schools
open
in
the
gateway
area,
so
that
you
know
students
could
literally
walk
down
the
block
and
go
to
school
in
the
in
the
gateway.
C
Sure,
right
on
so
I
had
a
question
and
and
a
couple
of
comments.
So
my
question
being:
does
the
right-of-way
pictured
here
for
a
trail
going
west
from
where
the
trail
currently
comes
off,
of
samoa
going
north
currently
exists
or
is
that
to
be
acquired.
N
M
You're
in
mute
thanks,
I
just
saw
the
little
pop-up
telling
me
that
I'm
not
exactly
sure
which-
which
specific
trail
you're
talking
about.
But
if
you
look
at
figure
9,
the
solid
bars
are
existing
trails
and
then
the
dotted
lines
are
proposed
trails,
almost
all
of
the
dotted
lines,
with
the
exception
of
maybe
the
no
that's,
not
even
ours.
Almost
all
of
the
proposed
trails
are
on
lands
that
we
need
to
acquire.
M
C
See?
Okay,
I
guess
my
comment
pursuant
to
some
concerns
from
members
of
the
public
is
that
you
know
long
range
in
in
terms
of
the
long
range
effects
of
a
this
type
of
development
pattern.
You
know,
development
that
permits
people
to
not
use
automobiles
for
every
trip,
short
or
long
will
have
the
effect
of
reducing
the
amount
of
people
that
need
to
use
car-specific
infrastructure,
which
will
in
turn
alleviate
congestion
for
requisite
motorists.
C
B
Thank
you,
wendy
you're,
no
longer
on
my
screen.
Oh
there,
you
are
I'm
here
top
left.
Would
you
like
to
add
anything
or
have
any
questions?
I.
F
Do
I
do
I
do
and
I'm
I'm
probably
the
least
adept
map
reader
of
the
bunch
here.
So
pardon
me
if
I'm
asking
things
that
are
clear
to
everyone
else,
but
but
am
I
am
I
understanding
correctly
that
the
that
the
8th
and
9th
street
and
the
and
and
the
k
and
l
are
going
to
be
buffered
bike
lanes.
F
F
The
option
a
b
and
c-
and
you
know
where,
where
did
you
land.
N
Leaving
the
option
open
for
class
four,
but
we're
calling
we're
calling
it
out
as
a
class
two
class
two
is
required
if,
if
it
ends
up
being
a
bunch
of
driveway
consolidation,
where
class
four
is
more
feasible,
I
think
that
that's
an
opportunity
there.
But
again,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
protected
bikeway
north
south
in
our
plan
is
that
l
street
alignment.
C
F
Okay,
I
guess
my
concern
is
about
connectivity
and
with
where
people
are
going
to
want
to
go
not
just
within
the
project,
and
I
understand
that
you
know
you
can
only
plan
the
project
right
now,
but
to
thinking
about
where
you
know
the
neighborhood
that's
to
the
northwest
and
about
about
people
wanting
to
go
downtown
and
the
you
know
the
most
stressful
segment
that
you
have
is
going
to
be
the
limiting
factor
you
can
have.
N
Yeah,
well,
you
just
kind
of
hit
the
nail
on
the
head.
I
think
we're
laser
focused
on
the
plan
area
once
we
zoom
back
out
to
think
of
the
general
plan.
What
you're
describing
is
exactly
how
we
have
to
think
about
it:
kind
of
a
network
connectivity
analysis
is
there
a
low
stress
point,
a
to
point
b
connection
and
some
of
those
will
be
challenging
connections.
Maybe
eighth
and
ninth
become
elevated
to
class
fours.
Once
we
complete
that
analysis.
N
I
think
that's
why
it's
important
that
we
put
our
stake.
Our
claim
on
that
again
that
that
horizontal
space
now
in
this
plan
and
make
sure
that
we
have
the
reserved
right-of-way
on
the
street
for
that
flexibility
down
the
line
because
11th
and
10th
are
going
to
be
challenges.
East
west,
we
showed
those
maintaining
on
10th
the
bike
boulevard
and
you
know
all
in
all
we're
hoping
to
calm
traffic
generally.
N
So
we're
hopeful
that,
with
the
facilities
we
have
in
mind
the
type
of
development
we're
talking
about
the
emphasis
and
shift
towards
bicycle
and
pedestrian
infrastructure
that
you
don't
have
the
type
of
vehicle
speeds
and
volumes
that
warrant
full
separation.
From
traffic
to
make
it
comfortable,
but
we
are
we
again
we're
keeping
that
right-of-way
available
on
8th
and
9th,
and
those
are
all
good
points,
but
we'll
keep
in
mind.
B
Okay,
thank
you
so
wendy
I
see
you
muted,
so
you
must
be
finished.
Well,
I
have
a
few
a
few
things
to
add
to
the
conversation.
First
of
all,
I
think
you've
done
a
very
creative
great
job
with
the
you
know,
kind
of
what
the
overall
strategy
and
goals
are.
B
You
know
stated
in
the
policies
here.
If
ultimately
city
council
you
know
goes
goes
with
most
of
this
and
in
concept
I
love,
you
know
the
additional
trail
segments
that
are
going
on.
I
think
the
8th
and
9th
street
concept
of
coming
through
there
is
is
great.
B
I
have
a
few.
So
that's,
what's
interesting,
k
street
crossing
of
eighth
and
ninth
does
concern
me.
I'm
not
sure
what
what
you
can
do.
I
mean
I
see
you've
done
some.
B
Some
bulb
outs
that
you
know
limit
the
time
that
people
are
in
the
street,
but
if
we
are
going
to
be
connecting
the
plaza
to
the
creamery
district,
I
would
like
to
see
some
more
energy
and
creativity
put
put
towards
getting
pedestrians
and
bicyclists
either.
You
know
crossing
k
either.
Being
eighth
or
ninth
I
mean
I
know,
a
a
bridge
is
an
expensive
proposition
and
a
tunnel
is
kind
of
creepy.
B
I
don't
know
it's
just
I'd
love
to
see
some
way,
and
I
don't
have
the
answer,
but
I'd
love
to
see
the
transportation
planners
and
the
community
brainstorm
of
getting
people
walking
from
one
part
of
the
town
to
the
other
safely,
and
then
I
guess
the
thing
that
catches
my
eye,
the
most
I'm
really
not
a
fan
of
the
whole
l
street
concept
of
creating
that
is
a
is
a
one
way
and
k
street
and
l
street
has
as
a
couple
that
I
guess
is
the
term
you
use.
B
I
know
there's
going
to
be
increased
congestion,
you're
talking
about
the
life
of
this
project,
I
believe,
being
3
500
units
residences
people,
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
people
or
what
but
the
number
3
500
is
what
comes
to
mind
and,
of
course,
that
could
take
years
and
years.
You
know
development
doesn't
happen
very
quick
in
arcata.
Historically,
it's
just
going
to
be.
You
know
when,
when
the
projects
are
there
and
and
people
want
to
pursue
them,
so
this
is
going
to
happen
very
very
incrementally.
B
B
We
don't
get
this
opportunity
very
often
to
actually
plan
something,
that's
kind
of
a
it's
a
destination
rather
than
just
a
thorough
affair.
I
mean
it's
already
starting
to
show
hints
of
what
it
can
be.
If
you
go
to
the
the
pub
and
the
redwood
racks
in
that
area
down
there,
the
creamery
district
they're
starting
to
there's
some
trees
planted
down
there.
There's
some
picnic
tables
they've
got
some
grassy
areas.
B
I
see
this
whole
corridor,
I
mean
I
don't
know
how
far
north
north
and
south-
I
don't
have
that
figured
out
yet,
but
at
least
that
corridor
of
l
street
being
mostly
car
free
other
than
the
little
lanes
that
exist
right
now
on
the
very
east
side,
so
that
those
businesses
and
residents
can
still
be
reached.
But
it
does
not.
I
don't
endorse
it
as
becoming
a
thoroughfare.
B
I
think
it's
a
missed
opportunity
to
turn
this
into
a
people
gathering
place
for
bikes
walkers.
I
see
cafes
there
in
the
future
bakeries
little
music
venues,
kids
on
bikes
parks,
parklets
outdoor
tables
and
in
it
at
night.
It
turns
into
it.
It
transforms
there's
lighting
and
there
are
people
coming
through
and
walking,
and
having
dinner
and
bringing
their
relatives
from
out
of
town
on
a
great
walk
through
there
and
they're
not
dealing
with
cars.
B
B
I
guess
our
focus
isn't
necessarily
on
increasing
traffic
flow,
getting
car
more
cars
through
and
cars
through
quicker,
but
I
think
there's
a
way
of
dealing
with
the
increased
traffic
it's
going
to
be
incrementally
over
a
period
of
years,
so
I
really
would
hope
you
can
give
a
priority
to
at
least
make
that
part
of
it.
It's
like
you
said
the
funding
and
the
timing
is
unknown
because
we're
out
here
in
big
picture,
maybe
put
that
down
near
the
later
down
the
project.
B
If
we
really
need
it,
if
we're
going
to
get
people
out
of
their
cars
and
get
them
more
on
bikes
and
walking,
you
may
not
need
case
k
street
and
l
street
to
handle
all
the
cars.
So
maybe
you
put
that
in
and
timing
isn't
as
needed
thing,
but
don't
make
it
a
priority,
make
the
priority
to
improve
l
street
as
a
people
corridor.
B
That's
what
I'd!
That's
what
I
would
personally
love
to
see
and
if
we
need
to
get
the
transportation
committee
out
there,
walking
it
and
envisioning
that
envisioning
that
and
meeting
your
team
out
there
david.
I
would
love
to
do
that,
so
we
could
consider
that
prospect
if
the
committee
is
open
to
it
or
if
there
are
others
who
share
my
my
concerns
about
that.
B
So
that's
what
I've
got
and
I
wouldn't
mind
hearing
you,
know
david
and
todd
your
your
thoughts
on
that
or
hearing
other
committee
member
thoughts
on
primarily
the
l
street
corridor.
M
Yeah
I'll
leave
the
sort
of
the
concepts
around
why
we
ultimately
propose
the
couplet.
You
know
I'll
have
todd
circle
back
on
that,
but
what
I
can
tell
you
is
this:
the
you
know
my
initial
response
to
the
proposal
to
adding
any
new
streets
was
no,
let's
save
them
for
other
uses,
whether
people
gathering
areas,
areas
for
economic
activity
or
areas
for
you
know
for
housing,
which
is
one
of
the
primary
motivators
of
this
plan.
M
To
begin
with-
and
I
was
compelled
by
the
arguments
that
you
know
as
the
city
grows.
Ultimately,
we
do
need
to
have
a
plan
in
place
for
this.
You
know
additional
traffic,
one
of
the
crazy
ideas
in
order
to
preserve
l
street
that
I
threw
out.
You
know
people
were
interested
in
what
what
kind
of
ideas
we
had
well,
one
is
to
have
an
elevated
k
street.
So
if
you
need
one-way
couplets,
you
can
have
one.
M
So
I
do
think
that
you
know
that,
combined
with
the
fact
that
there
are
some
tricky
segments
of
l
street
where
acquisition
needs
to
be
made
both
from
private
individuals
as
well
as
from
the
north
coast,
rail
authority
successor,
you
know
there's
that
that
is
a
long
range
vision.
A
very
long
range
vision
that
you
know
frankly
may
be
speculative
for
most
of
the
planned
period.
M
So
we
definitely
don't
need
a
backup
plan,
a
plan
b,
and
you
know
we
we,
you
know
again,
todd
can
maybe
touch
base
on
what
the
plan
b
is,
but
plan
b
does
not
have
the
same
sorts
of
accommodations
for
bike
and
ped
improvements
on
k
street.
As
the
current
plan
does
this
current
plan,
I
think,
provides
for
the
best
improvements
to
address
some
of
the
other
things
that
we
heard,
including
you
know,
crossings
at
at
eighth
and
ninth
across
k.
M
M
That
being
said,
that
is
what
this
public
process
is
about.
So
if
folks
can
come
up
with,
you
know,
ideas
that
are
superior
to
what's
in
this
plan.
You
know
we
want
to
make
sure
and
bring
that
forward
to
the
council
and
have
them
consider
it.
N
Yeah,
certainly,
you
know
one
of
the
the
things
that
we
heard
that
I
heard
early
on
is
you
know
no,
no
traffic
signals,
let's,
let's
not
have
any
traffic
signals
in
the
city
right
away,
ultimately,
based
on
the
forecasts
that
have
been
published
in
the
past
and
one
thing
I'll
note
and
david
alluded
to
this
earlier-
we
haven't
done
a
full
forecasting
on
this
plan
yet
or
that
is
going
to
be
part
of
the
general
plan,
update
we're
going
to
look
at
all
the
land
use.
N
That's
this
plan
for
the
whole
city,
including
this
gateway
area,
and
look
at
what
the
traffic
generation
is
given
the
intensity
of
development
in
the
barrel
district.
Notwithstanding
the
fact
that
we're
designing
it
to
be
bicycle
and
pedestrian,
you
know
we're
going
to
have
to
plan
for
kind
of
worst
case
right.
That's
what
sequa
that's
what
the
environmental
roles
compel
us
to
do,
and
so
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
forecast
numbers
that
show
quite
a
bit
of
growth
on
on
these
north
south
streets,
both
101
and
then
what
is
today
k.
N
So
I'm
confident
that
we
will
need
to
look
at
traffic
signal
control
at
11th
and
k
and
a
roundabout
has
been
suggested
in
the
past.
I
think
I
heard
somebody
mention
it
today.
I'm
a
huge
fan
of
roundabouts
personally,
those
would
still
need
right-of-way
takes
on
their
corners,
and
so
they're
gonna
have
a
wider
footprint
than
what's
available
there
and
then
also,
as
david
mentioned.
You
know
we
would
certainly
need
to
maintain.
N
At
least
you
know,
one
lane
per
direction
on
k,
potentially
some
turn
lanes
along
k
as
well.
So
maybe
three
lane
sections
to
allow
for
that
movement,
and
so
you
would
see
a
degradation
of
what's
possible
with
the
proposed
concept.
N
The
proposed
concept
keeps
one
lane
per
direction,
but
it
allows
for
increased
movement
at
intersections
it
again.
It
splits
those
conflict
points
out
which
helps
so
the
southbound
left
turners
are
no
longer
conflicting
with
the
northbound
left.
Turners
and
those
are
you
know,
those
are
some
of
the
major
conflict
points
we
have
at
intersections,
so
it
improves
the
ability
for
vehicles
to
move
around
freely
and
without
having
to
install
traffic
signals.
N
N
I
do
agree
that
it
is
a
challenging
alignment.
There
are
certainly
challenges
along
that
corridor
and
I
look
forward
to
coming
up
with
a
plan
b.
There
have
definitely
been
other
options
described
and
and
evaluated
here
at
a
high
level,
we're
probably
going
to
need
to
come
up
with
one
that
we
that
we
analyze
in
in
greater
detail
as
a
backup
plan.
We
we're
not
there
yet
and-
and
I
I
don't
have
the
answer
to
what
that
kind
of
consensus.
N
Backup
plan
is,
but
there
will
be
something
else
in
here
to
address
the
potential
of
it
being
at
some
point,
infeasible
and
and
to
speak
to
the
the
you
know,
the
amenity,
the
treasure
of
the
exact,
the
existing
l
street
alignment.
We
get
it,
we
agree
and
it
was
not
an
easy
decision
to
to
make
to
propose
changes
to
that
corridor.
N
B
Great,
thank
you
well,
just
just
one
final
thought
to
for
for
me
on
on
k
street.
I
guess
maybe
what
I
was
thinking.
I
don't
want
to
see.
B
K
street
degraded
in
any
way
is
less
of
a
area
for
bicyclists.
Although
I
don't
write
it,
I
always
find
somewhere
else.
K
street
is
not
a
good
good
street
as
it
is
now
for
bikes.
So
I
guess
if
there's
some
way
to
eliminate
the
l
street
one
way
by
making
k
street
what
do
you
you
described
that
earlier
stress
level?
Four,
let's
just
keep
it
for
people
who
are
good
with
stress
level
four,
so
we
don't
need
any
real
fancy.
Bike
lanes
go
ahead
and
let's
go
ahead
and
acknowledge:
okay,
we're
gonna!
B
Let
cars
take
priority
here
if
you're,
okay
at
stress
level,
four,
there
is
some
space
there
for
a
bike,
can't
believe
I'm
saying
this,
but
I
guess
that's
how
much
I
envision
don't
put
a
street
down
down
l
street,
so
any
other
members
have
anything
to
to
weigh
in
on
any
any
other
questions
or
comments
follow
up.
C
I
I
kind
of
am
beginning
to
see
what
you're
getting
at
dave
in
terms
of
making
l
less
of
a
less
of
a
of
a
thoroughfare
in
the
way
that
k
is
and
keeping
k,
as
as
a
as
a
as
a
higher
capacity
way
of
getting
through
the
area,
so
that
l
can
remain
more
more
people-centric
and
less
less
about
the
conveyance.
C
M
As
a
matter
of
process,
you
know
I
mean
we
don't.
Certainly
the
committee
could
take
action
if
this
was
something
that
the
you
know,
committee
felt
strongly
about.
You
know,
I
think
they,
you
know
you
know
action
can
be
taken.
We
can
make
that
recommendation
based
on
you
know
what
we've
heard
here
tonight,
but
I
do
think
that
you
know
some
of
the
additional
analysis
that
ght
is
going
to
do
for
us
when
we
get
to
the
general
plan
will
be
instructive
and
you
know
maybe
a
recommendation
would
be
more.
M
You
know
informed
at
that
time.
You
know.
Ultimately
it's
you
know
it
has
to
be
informed
by
you
know
data
out
of
our
models
as
to
whether
or
not
you
know
there
could
be
a
you
know,
k
street
solution.
That
would
be
the
preferred
solution.
M
It
would
likely
mean
removing
the
parking
lanes
as
well
as
the
you
know,
the
bike
lanes
from
k
street
to
accommodate
the
additional
traffic
and,
ultimately,
if
traffic
is
bad
enough
on
k,
street
you'll
start
to
get
bleed
off
from
the
other
streets,
and
so
you
know,
I
think
some
of
you
know
some
of
where
we
ultimately
landed.
M
You
know
with
this
couplet
idea
was
to
try
and
contain
for
or
control
and
contain
traffic
that
would
otherwise
be
looking
for
alternative
routes.
Because
of
you
know
the
pressure
you
know,
so
you
can.
You
can
take
your
travel
demand
management
only
so
far
by
making
it
inconvenient
and
so.
H
M
And
the
data
accommodate
you
know
that
you
know
certainly.
K
B
Yeah
I
mean
that
sounds
fair
to
me.
I
would
definitely
like
to
keep.
B
Well,
there
we
go.
I
I
would
like
to
maybe
keep
the
discussion
open
and
you
know
unless
I'm
in
a
minority
here
and
the
rest
of
the
committee
doesn't
see
it
is
that
big
of
an
issue,
but
if
there's
no,
no
need
to
really
take
a
strong
position,
one
way
or
the
other.
I
would
really
love
to
see
see
the
issue
left
on
the
table
to
be
pliable
in
the
future.
To
you
know,
keep
some
keep
some
other
options
open,
so
yeah.
B
We
would
love
to
be
involved
and
maybe
come
back
to
us
when
we,
when
we
get
to
the
general
plan
stage
and
we're
looking
at
you
know
those
issues
so
with
that
I
think
maybe
we're
oh
nature.
Hey.
S
A
Well,
you
know
just
on
your
comment
I
just
wanted
maybe
address.
I
know
we
went
to
multiple
alternatives
for
8th
and
9th
and
then
for
lnk,
and
I
understand
the
way
you're
putting
it.
You
know,
keeping
l
street
as
a
livable
city
having
a
restaurants
outside
people,
walking
that
you
know,
I
think
it
was
considered.
We
thought
about
that,
but
the
trade-off
here
when
we
discussed
as
a
group,
was
instead
of
keeping
l
street
like
a
livable
city,
we
can
work
on
eighth
and
ninth.
A
Hence
they
are
the
part
of
the
project,
make
them
like
a
more
livable
city
and
which
connects
the
criminal
district
and
the
downtown
straight
east
west,
and
that
would
be
much
more
walkable
connecting
the
trail
connecting
the
downtown
with
8th
and
9th
street
and
that
making
that
more
bikepad,
friendly
and
livable
street.
I
think
that
was
the
idea.
I
think
that
was
a
tradeoff
just
for
the
you
know
before
we
make
this.
I
just
wanted
you
to
know
that.
B
So
yeah
good
good
point
I
did.
I
did
think
about
that
today,
as
I
was
walking
through
there,
I
was
going
well,
you
know,
can
I
see
8th
and
9th
as
serving
that
and
for
some
reason
I'm
not
visualizing
it
quite
the
same,
especially
because
you
have
to
cross
k.
So
if
there
was
a
way
you
know
just
it's
k
street
is
the.
Is
the
booger
here?
Isn't
it?
I.
B
That's
a
good
point
and
I
think
that's
why
I
really
appreciate
the
fact
that
the
city
is
looking
at
what
they're
going
to
try
to
do
with
the
eighth
and
ninth
and
I
think,
that's
very
vision,
visionary
and
looking
forward.
So,
okay,
well
appreciate
that
feedback
nature.
I
think
we
are
at
the
end.
If
nobody
else
has
anything
else,
we
have
any
members
who
karina
go
ahead.
E
Just
so
you
know,
when
someone
raises
their
hand,
it
puts
their
feed
on
the
upper
left
corner.
You'll
notice
wendy
is
at
your
upper
left.
B
F
Yeah,
it's
just
a
color
contrast
issue
here,
yeah
I
I
was
just
wondering
I
mean
because
essentially
what
you're
doing
is
you're
you're
looking
at
this
projected
growth
and
these
number
of
housing
units
and
then
the
traffic,
and
then
everything
has
to
fit
that
traffic,
and
I
was
curious
as
to
where
that
growth
projection
came
from,
because
it
certainly
is
a
lot
more
than
other
things
that
I
have
seen.
M
Yeah,
that's
a
really
great
question
and
this
answer
you
know
I
I
hope
I'm
able
to
articulate
what
something
that
is.
You
know
somewhat
nuanced
and-
and
I
found
it
difficult
to
to
convey
so
I'm
gonna
give
my
best.
If
you
don't
understand
it,
please
it's
my
fault
for
not
explaining
it.
Well,
certainly,
not
your
fault
for
not
being
able
to
understand
it.
M
I'll
give
you
an
example
of
a
full
build-out
scenario
right
now
in
the
central
commercial
area,
the
area
around
the
downtown,
the
entire
several
block
region
around
the
downtown
right
now.
Currently,
today,
as
the
zoning
code
stands,
you
can
build
a
four-story
building.
You
can
have
zero
setback
from
the
street
frontage
from
the
right-of-way
frontage
and
you
can
have
a
residential
above
commercial,
and
so
every
single
parcel
in
the
surrounding
downtown
area
is
allowed
to
build
a
four-story.
M
What
the
maximum
build-out
potential
is,
and
if
I
calculate
out
that
maximum
build-out
potential
for
you,
you
would
probably
be
floored
by
the
amount
of
development
potential
there
is
in
the
downtown.
We
have
to
assess
that.
We
have
to
evaluate
that,
assess
it
and
tell
people
what
that
full
maximum
build
out.
Potential
is
that's
step
one.
Obviously,
the
downtown
hasn't
been
fully
built
out
with
four-story
buildings.
M
We
have
two
of
them,
or
maybe
three,
I'm
not
sure
if
the
one
on
on
eighth
street
is
is
four
or
free,
but
it's
a
very
large
three
story,
if
it's
three
so
so
that
kind
of
gives
you
a
sense
that,
even
though
the
the
code
would
allow
for
a
full
build-out
potential,
the
market
is
only
bringing
so
many
of
these
projects
to
you
know
to
the
city
within
a
given
planning
period,
now
shifting
gears
a
little
bit,
our
general
plan
update
is
looking
at
a
20-year
time
frame
and
what
growth
potential
is
going
to
happen
in
that
20-year
time
frame.
M
Now
we're
embedding
the
gateway
area
plan
inside
the
general
plan.
So,
there's
a
little
bit
of
overlap
between
the
estimates
that
are
going
on
here,
we're
right
now,
working
on
the
the
the
growth
estimates
for
that
general
plan,
and
so
it
could
be
that
all
of
it
gets
concentrated
in
the
gateway
area.
M
That's
not
real
likely,
but
it's
possible.
What's
more
likely.
Is
that
we'll
see
the
similar
development
patterns
that
we've
seen
over
the
last
20
years
that
certain
opportunity
sites
certain
key
sites
that
have
a
lot
of
potential
get
developed
with
higher
density?
We
have
smaller
sites
that
are
developed
out.
We
have
adus
that
go
in
so
on
and
so
forth.
That's
accessory
dwelling
units,
and
so
the
circulation
and
transportation
needs
to
be
designed
for
the
entire
city's
growth
and
development.
M
So
we're
not.
We
haven't
resolved
on
those.
I
don't
have
those
numbers.
I
can't
share
those
with
you
today,
but
what
I
can
tell
you
is
this
is
that
my
reasoned
belief,
based
on
the
data
that
we're
looking
at
right
now,
is
that
we're
going
to
need
to
plan
for
this
kind
of
transportation
infrastructure,
regardless
of
what
the
total
total
unit
count
for
maximum
build
out
is
in
the
gateway
area
that
between
the
polytechnic
you
know,
the
fish
farm,
the
data.
M
The
the
expansion,
the
you
know,
covid
refugees,
the
economic
refugees,
people
pouring
into
our
area
from
outside
this
area.
We
need
to
plan
for
that
growth.
We
need
to
take
the
bull
by
the
horns
and
say
to
ourselves.
We
know
that
the
growth
is
coming.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
in
control
of
what
that
growth
looks
like
the
state
is
making
plans
for
growth
without
us.
M
Recently,
the
state
adopted
sb9,
which
allows
for
small
lot
subdivisions
which,
essentially,
if
you
take
a
look
around
your
neighborhood,
all
of
your
neighbors,
every
single
one
of
them,
could
come
in
and
get
a
ministerial
approval.
You
have
no
say
over
the
document
or
the
the
approval
process.
As
a
citizen
of
this
or
a
resident
of
this
community,
they
are
allowed
to
have
two
two
lots
on
their.
K
M
F
Well,
I
think
my
question
was
just
because
all
the
population
projections
that
I've
seen
which
are
admittedly
outdated
because
of
the
polytechnic
and
covit
and
all
those
things
didn't
look
like
there
were
projecting
a
lot
of
growth
of
population.
So
I
that's
why
I'm
wondering
where
these
new
numbers
are
coming
from?
Well,
let's.
E
M
Look
at
the
specific
projections
that
you're
talking
about
the
hcd
does
projections
for
us
for
our
housing
element
cycles
and
our
regional
housing
out
needs
allocation
updates,
and
what
I
can
tell
you
is
that
hcd's
methodology,
while
it
is
a
little
dense,
it's
also
backwards,
looking
and
so
they're
not
projecting
based
on
you
know
what
they're
seeing
happen
in
in
the
future:
they're,
not
based
basing
it
on.
M
M
M
M
To
you
know,
plan
for
population
growth
based
on
you
know
the
the
variables
that
we
do
know
and,
and
then
the
other
piece
to
this
is
that
you
know,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
you
know,
there's
a
full
build-out
scenario:
that's
not
likely
to
occur,
we're
still
planning
for
the
ability
for
those
kinds
of
developments.
You
don't
you
you
can't
spot
zone,
you
can't
say
to
yourself
hey,
you
know.
We
think
that
we're
going
to
grow
by
a
thousand
people.
M
So
let's
plan
for
a
thousand
units,
you
have
to
kind
of
pick
a
zoning
and
you
blanket
zone
that
you
pick
your
targets
and
then,
as
your
population
approaches
those
targets,
then
it
may
mean
that
you
need
to
revise
your
long-range
planning
documents
sooner
than
you
were,
anticipating.
G
E
Sorry,
sorry
regarding
l
street.
E
I
admit
to
being
really
really
reluctant
to
turn
that
into
a
road
street,
because
I
enjoy
not
having
cars
right
next
to
me
I
mean
you
can
hear
the
birds
singing
people
talking
and
laughing
the
wind
blowing
in
the
trees
bell
street
is
just
gonna,
be
all
you're.
Gonna
hear
is
cars,
so
that
said,
I
understand
why
and-
and
I
understand
it,
but
I
don't
have
to
like
it
so
see
what
you
got
to
do.
B
B
Thank
all
the
members
of
the
public
who
showed
up
and
gave
comment.
You
may
still
be
out
there
listening
and
all
the
committee
members
and
our
city
of
arcata
staff
appreciate
everybody's
time
this
evening.
B
The
last
thing
I
guess,
josh
sorry
we
had
to
send
you
off
to
sit
in
the
corner.
You
can
come
back
now
if
you
want-
and
we
can
talk
about
the
very
last
item
on
our
agenda.
Just.
M
Didn't
believe
this
can
I
put
in
a
plug
for
our
january.
Maybe
please.
K
M
Okay,
so
you
can
you
can
find
this
information
by
googling,
serp,
s-I-r-p
and
arcada
and
then
following
the
how
to
get
involved
links
but
we're
having
an
in-person
open
house
on
january
21st
from
9
30
a.m,
to
3
p.m
and
then
january
22nd
saturday.
From
I'm
sorry,
the
21st
is
11
30
to
7
pm
and
the
22nd
is
9
30
to
3
p.m.
M
So
that'll
be
a
exhibition
style,
we'll
let
people
in
and
we'll
all
be
covered
safe
you'll
be
able
to
come
in
in
small
groups,
interact
with
the
materials
we'll
have
exhibits
there
for
you
to
interact
with
and
provide
feedback
on
the.
K
A
Great
nature,
just
on
the
process
wise,
I
know
david,
you
provided
the
staff
report
and
you're
looking
for
some.
Maybe
some
input
recommendation
how
that
recommendation
should
come
to
you
in
some
ways.
I
think
it
will
be
good
to
maybe
for
dave
to
know.
Is
it
just
a?
A
A
Yeah
in
general
like
what
is
that
even
the
seeking
from
tse,
because
I
know
you
got
a
lot
of
feedback-
you
got
input,
but
is
that
it?
We
are
done
here
or
you'll,
be
coming
back
or
you're.
Looking
at
a
list
of
recommendations
from
tsc.
M
No,
it
definitely
sounds
to
me,
like
tsc,
would
appreciate
a
further
discussion
on
l
street
and
some
of
the
planning
around
that
so
we'll
bring
that
information
back
when
we
have
it.
Obviously,
we'll
have
additional
tsc
meetings
as
we're
going
through
the
general
plan
update
for
this
stage.
I've
recorded
all
the
the
comment
and
the
you
know
the
input
that
we've
received
and
we'll
be
able
to
convey
that
to
the
the
city
council
and
we
haven't
resolved
exactly
yet
on
how
to
make
a
specific
recommendation.
M
But
I
think
that
that
could
be
a
second
agenda
item
for
the
the
tsc
to
talk
about.
You
know:
where
do
we
want
to
go
with
this?
Do
we
have
specific
recommendations
that
we
want
to
make
and
we
can
bring
that
back
in
another.
M
B
All
right
great,
thank
you
david.
So
two
final
things:
anybody
have
any
future
agenda
items
to
add
for
our
next
meeting,
which
will
be
february
15th
karina,
you're
waving
your
hand.
E
E
B
G
Yeah
I
had
a
quick
one
follow
up
to
last
meeting
where
we
talked
about
samoa
and
g
street
just
because
it
keeps
coming
up.
I
thought.
Maybe
it
should
be
an
item
that
we
agendize.
I
don't
know
how
it
doesn't
have
to
be
the
next
meeting,
but
I'm
thinking
you
know,
nature
may
be
having
dave
morgan
come
in
at
some
point
just
to
get
him
connected
with
the
committee
as
opposed.
G
A
We
can
agendas
items.
Thank
you,
josh
for
bringing
that
up.
I
did
contact
david
morgan.
I
cannot
promise
that
he
will
be
coming
to
tsa
meeting
I'll,
definitely
make
a
request
for
him
to
attend
the
meeting
if
he
can
on
that
matter,
but
I
did
send
him
an
email
with
the
information
and
requested
what
the
plans
are
and
suggested,
but
we
discussed
at
the
meeting
at
the
last
meeting.
So
thank
you,
but
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
we'll
keep
that
on
agenda.
B
Sounds
good,
you
still
have
your
hand
up
karina.
Are
you
finished.
E
Sorry,
yes,
again,
speaking
of
intersections,
did
we
ever
come
to
a
conclusion
about
the
issue
of
q,
street
and
17th
intersection.