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A
A
B
You
Arlington,
let's
can
I
ask
a
quick
question.
Sure
we
had
Laura
a
while
ago
was
helping
me,
but
we're
trying
to
get
our
traffic
circles
cleaned
up
and
we
don't
have
water
to
our
traffic
circles
and
we
called
and
talked
to
a
couple
people
the
county
who
told
us
that
we
have
to
set
up
an
account
and
we
have
to
pay
for
the
water,
for
the
traffic
circles
and
I
was
wondering
if
any
of
the
other
neighborhoods
have
had
to
do
that.
C
A
And
also,
if
you're,
not
speaking,
please,
let's
put
every
put
it
on
mute
so
that
we
can
all
hear.
D
G
Eileen
Janus,
present
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
the
Virginia
Department
of
Transportation
notified
us
and
invited
us
to
a
meeting
August
24th
that
they
are
planning
to
do
some
major
safety
improvements
on
Route
50
between
Glebe
Road
and
Washington,
Boulevard
and
so
I'm,
particularly
interested
in
hearing
from
Ashton
Heights
lion,
Village
and
Penrose.
If
they
also
have
heard
about
this
effort.
Thank
you.
A
A
Aurora
Highlands
David
Litman
here
thank
you.
David
Boston,
Virginia
Square.
A
A
Thank
you,
Phil
Buckingham,.
A
A
Thank
you
Lisa
Glenn
Carlin.
H
Bridget
obicoya
here
and
I'd
also
like
to
address
the
person
who
asked
about
the
Arlington
Boulevard
smart
scale
project.
The
correspondence
was
sent
out
to
Buckingham
Ashton
Heights
lion,
Village,
Penrose
and
Alcova
Heights
and
to
residences
specifically,
it
was
also
broadcast
on
the
County
website
and
it
is
recorded
So.
Anyone
who
missed
it
can
go
check
it
out
and
there's
a
comment
period.
That's
going
on
now
that
ends
on
September
28th.
So
if
you're
interested
in
Arlington
Boulevard
and
what's
going
on
there,
please
go
check
out
the
video
and
provide
comments.
A
Thank
You
Bridget
Highland
Park,
overly
Knolls.
A
O
This
is
Penrose
I'm,
Darcy
Kaufman
and,
regarding
the
question
about
Route
50,
our
neighborhood
association
president
receives
those
notices
after
the
meeting.
I
will
ask
him
if
he
received
it
and
if
he
will
forward
that
to
the
neighborhood
to
for
appropriate
response.
Thank
you.
P
A
Okay
got
Tara
leeway,
Heights
and
thank
you
for
Waverly
Hills,
waycroft
Woodlawn.
E
P
A
Yes,
Bernie,
we
can
hear
you
and
also
Arlington
Ridge.
We
have
you
as
well.
E
Get
a
little
bit
of
background
interference
here.
Okay,
thank
you.
Welcome
everybody
and
thank
you
very
much
for
attending
our
first
virtual
session.
We've
had
in
a
while
appreciate
we
have
good,
strong
attendance
and
we
have
a
good
presentation
that
I'm
sure
you'll
be
interested
in
hearing
tonight.
Our
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
to
approve
the
June
and
July
minutes.
D
E
Okay
and
second
on
that.
O
E
Okay,
let's
go
ahead
then,
and
all
those
in
favor
of
approving
the
minutes
go
ahead
and
raise
your
hand
and
vote
there.
K
E
E
E
Tell
us
if
you're,
if
you
truly
want
to
oppose
the
minutes,
we
have
David
Howard,
Kristen,
Bernie
and
Audrey.
So
with
their
hands
raised,
do
you
tend
to
record
opposition
to.
B
E
E
D
E
A
I
just
have
one
correction:
I
did
receive
something
from
Steve
in
Douglas
Park,
a
typo
at
the
end
of
the
July
minutes,
and
so
I.
A
That
on
to
Hannah
to
to
correct
okay,.
E
Okay,
let's
go
ahead
then
and
vote
all
those
in
favor
of
approving
the
minutes
for
July
hit
the
little
raise
your
hand
button
at
the
top
right.
E
E
Okay,
all
those
opposed
to
approving
the
July
2023
minutes
go
ahead
and
raise
your
hands
again.
If
you
are
opposed.
E
Trying,
okay,
okay,
no,
no
votes
in
opposition!
Anybody
abstaining
from
the
minute
approving
you
minutes,
okay,
we'll
consider
the
July
2023
minutes
approved
as
well.
Thank
you
all
and
the
next
item
we
have
officers
and
staff
report,
I,
think
I'll
go
ahead
and,
and
maybe
we'll
just
follow
the
sequence
in
the
agenda.
One
is
the
arnac
calendar,
which
is
something
we
wanted
to
talk
about
as
officers
and
just
one
again.
Thank
you
guys
for
participating
tonight.
E
It's
an
important
presentation
on
kind
of
a
major
process
area
that
we've
been
considering
the
executive
committee
has
met.
E
So
important,
meeting
coming
up
in
October
and
then
also
we're
getting
to
that
point
in
the
year,
starting
with
the
November
meeting,
where
we'll
need
to
get
a
nominating
subcommittee
and
chair
for
officers
coming
up
for
next
year
and
also
in
November,
we'll
have
a
project,
evaluation,
team
and
staff
recommendation
for
the
fall
funding
round
and
David
will
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
in
this
presentation
tonight.
E
So
important
meetings
coming
up
in
October
and
November
and
then
December
of
course
is
we
would
be
announcing
names
of
Officer
candidates
and
the
most
important
thing,
of
course,
is
the
funding
round
approval
by
arnac
in
December.
So
we'll
we'll
definitely
have
some
important
things
coming
up.
N
Q
E
Okay
and
if
not,
let's
go
ahead,
then
with
I
think
you
guys
EMP.
The
program
wants
to
talk
about
Staffing.
A
Yes,
thank
you
Kathy,
so
I
just
want
to
give
you
guys
an
update
on
our
staffing.
As
you
know,
we
had
two
retirements
and
then
obviously
we
had
Tim
who
departed
for
the
parks
department.
So
we
have
We've
hired
our
made
it
offered
and
hired
our
associate
planner
Anika
chaudry,
who
is
Who
currently,
is
in
the
comprehensive
planning
division
of
Arlington
County,
so
she's
moving
from
comprehensive
planning
and
we'll
be
starting
with
us
on
the
25th.
A
She
will
be
replacing
Angela,
Marshall
and
and
be
working
on
the
funding
round
and
also
on
neighborhood
plans
in
addition
to
projects
she
has
about
eight
years
experience
in
working
with
Arlington,
County,
of
which,
at
least
about
two
is
in
comprehensive
planning
and
I.
Think
about
four
or
five
in
current
planning
and
then
then
a
couple
years
in
zoning,
so
very
knowledgeable
of
Arlington
County
government,
very
knowledgeable
of
our
our
planning
processes
and
so
we're
looking
forward
to
having
her
join
us
on
September
25th.
Also.
A
Okay,
so
she
we
won't
she's
still
in
the
planning
division
at
the
moment,
and
so
she
won't
be
actually
starting
with
us
until
September.
So
I
can
send
out
her
contact
information
when
she
officially
kind
of
gets.
A
I
A
We
go.
Thank
you
thank
you
and
so
and
the
final
announcement
is,
we
have
a
new
replacement
for
Tim
and
the
supervisor
position.
It'll
be
Laura
Simpson,
who
I
think
some
of
you
may
know
and
she's
coming
to
us
from
right
across
the
hallway
episode
to
speak,
and
so
we're
glad
Laura
he's
done
an
outstanding
job
and
and
guiding
the
ANP
and
also
arnac
and
working
with
the
executive
committee
and
developing
the
implementation
framework
and
keeping
us
moving
forward
in
terms
of
our
project
workload.
A
So
we're
glad
to
have
her
take
that
role
and
obviously
she'll
be
transitioning
during
the
next
couple
weeks,
but
the
official
start
date
obviously
is
September
25th
as
well,
and
so
now
we
have
the
final
task
of
backfilling
for
her
position,
which
we
are
actually
starting
to
work
on
the
job
announcement
for
that
now,
and
so
hopefully
we
can
get
that
out
before
the
end
of
the
month
or
at
least
by
early
October,
and
so
at
that
point.
A
A
So
again,
thank
you
for
to
our
neck
and
the
executive
for
being
patient
with
us,
as
we
kind
of
continue
to
kind
of
stamp
staff
up
to
meet
the
challenges
ahead.
We
thank
you
again
for
being
patient
with
us
and
we
look
forward
to
the
great
work
to
come
with
our
new
team
members.
E
Thanks
chickway
and
I
just
want
to
say
first
congratulations
to
Laura
we're
thrilled
to
have
you
continuing
on
with
us
and
being
in
the
the
leadership
position
on
the
ANP
side,
very
good
news
and
also
chickway,
and
congratulations
on
getting
that
other
position
filled
that
that
will
be
wonderful
to
have
a
person
starting
there
and
good
luck,
I'm
filling
that
final
Position
will
be
very
happy
as
you
will
as
well
to
be
fully
staffed.
It's
been
a
difficult
time
and
I
think
there
should
be
some
kind
of
bylaws.
We
Institute
that
say.
E
C
Okay,
so
we
have
two
things:
we're
going
to
talk
about,
just
as
updates
and
if
all
of
you
recall,
towards
the
beginning
of
the
year,
David
had
put
together
the
sort
of
an
annual
calendar
of
when
we
would
be
doing
regular
reporting
into
you
all,
and
we
had
actually
hoped
to
start
that
in
this
past
July,
but
we
weren't
able
to
do
that
for
a
variety
of
reasons,
but
we're
we're
going
to
start
doing
that
tonight.
C
So
this
is
the
first
time
we're
kind
of
trying
out
doing
this,
and
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
keep
this
more
of
just
sort
of
a
summary.
These
are
the
projects.
This
is
where
they
are
so
that
the
this
doesn't
end
up
dominating
our
time
this
evening
and
any
particular
questions
more
in-depth
conversations.
C
We
hope
that
everyone
will
reach
out
to
their
ANP
planner,
that's
assigned
to
the
project
and
if,
if
there
are
projects
that
you
have
questions
on
that
are
more
specifically
such
as
the
first
priority
list
or
ones
that
just
aren't
showing
up
here.
C
Please
reach
out
to
me,
and
we
can
have
a
conversation
about
that
and
I
can
let
people
know
where
other
projects
are,
because
we
have
some
that
we
aren't
actively
working
on
right
at
the
moment,
they're
on
hold
for
a
variety
of
reasons
that
you
know
I'm
happy
to
go
over
with
people
individually,
but
so
this
is
the
project
list
of
where
we
are
right
now.
This
first
category
is
in
planning
which
we're
defining
as
a
clipboard
petition
has
been
passed
and
we
are
working
on
doing
the
preliminary
design.
C
This
usually
results
in
about
a
15
to
30
percent
design,
set
that
then
we
do
the
final
petition
with
the
neighborhood
on
and
then
assuming
it
passes
that
we
work
towards
the
the
upcoming
funding
round.
So
this
is
a
combination
of
ones
that
are
in
the
works
for
both
this
upcoming
funding
round.
We
hope
that
they
all
pass
the
petition
for
the
fall
funding
round
and
then
also
one
of
these
is
currently
slated
for
going
towards
the
spring
funding
round.
C
So
the
first
one
is
North
Pollard
Street
and
that
one
is
in
the
process
of
final
petitions
being
collected.
We
should
hopefully
have
all
of
those
final
petitions
tabulated
and
in
the
next
couple
weeks
we
should
know
whether
it's
passed
its
final
petition,
and
hopefully
it
does.
This
is
a
street
Improvement
project
that
we
hope
to
bring
to
the
fall
funding
round.
C
Woodstock
Park
is
also
being
worked
on
by
Aaron,
who
is
one
of
the
the
DPR
Landscape
Architects,
who
is
handling
some
of
the
projects,
while
you
know
since
Kathy
Kathy,
Von
brida
had
left
and
this
one
that
will
be
going
for
a
neighborhood
meeting
and
hopefully
later
this
month
and
and
that
one,
the
civic
association
would
be
voting
on
and
hopefully
that
passes
and
that
one
will
be
going
for
the
fall
funding
round.
C
North
Quebec,
Street
concept
design
is
being
worked
on
right
now,
also
Street
Improvement
project
that
one
would
most
likely
go
through
final
petition
in
October,
and
we
hope
that
one
also
passes
and
we'll
bring
that
to
the
funding
round.
C
C
North
Montague
Street
that
one
is
in
the
process
of
going
through
final
petitions
and
in
the
next
one
to
two
weeks.
We
should
know
whether
that
one
has
passed
and
assuming
that
one
does,
that
will
also
go
for
the
fall
funding
round
and
then
18th
Street
that
one
we
we
don't
quite
have
the
the
survey
work
completed,
but
we're
supposed
to
be
getting
that
in
the
next
couple
weeks.
C
I
believe
I,
don't
have
a
like
a
definitive
one,
that's
going
to
be
done,
but
that
one
is
currently
we're
looking
towards
having
that
one
for
the
spring
funding
round.
C
So
then,
moving
on
to
the
next
category,
which
is
InDesign,
we
have
thrifton
Hills
Park
and
that
one
is
there's
a
there.
We're
currently
dealing
with
invasive
species,
removal
and
there's
a
purchase
order
for
that.
So
for
the
two,
these
two
next
Park
projects,
thriftin
Hills
and
Bailey's
Branch.
Since
Kathy
left
right
now.
We
that
one,
those
two
are
assigned
to
another
DPR
landscape
architect.
C
Jeanette-
is
doing
that
for
us
and
for
Bailey's
Branch
Park
she's
working
towards
a
concept,
design
and
she's
preparing
for
a
first
engagement
with
residents
on
that
to
kind
of
talk
through
how
the
circulation
might
work
in
going
into
and
out
of
the
park
as
well
as
kind
of
what
the
ideas
are
that
our
priority
and
what
are
they
going
to
be
able
to
to
do
as
far
as
getting
the
design
put
together?
C
That
one
they
are
working,
the
engineers
are
working
towards
90
design
and
they
are
looking
to
have
a
final
design
meeting
for
residents.
C
Late
fall,
so
November
December
time
frame
is
what
they're
shooting
for
7th
Street
South
90
percent
design
drawings
has
been
started
and
that
one
we're
also
looking
to
have
a
final
design
meeting
with
residents
in
the
winter
15th
Street
North
that
one
the
drawings
are
at
100
percent
and
the
sign
plans
have
been
done
and
they're
working
on
the
acquisition
of
temporary
easements
South
Buchanan
Street,
those
that's
a
street
light
project.
C
So
the
basic
design
has
been
done
by
the
engineers
and
they
will
be
sending
that
to
Dominion
so
that
Dominion
can
do
the
construction.
Drawing
since
Dominion
will
be
handling
the
lights
themselves.
B
C
Miriam
thanks
chickway,
so
they'll
be
going
to
Dominion
sometime.
This
fall
South
Manchester
Street.
We
are
working
on
the
60
comments
that
came
back
from
internal
review
and
we're
starting
to
work
on
the
temporary
easement
agreement,
Sixth
Street,
North
and
North
Edison,
another
intersection,
Improvement
project,
okay,.
G
C
A
C
You
go:
that's
the
one
we're
talking
about
right
now,
intersection
Improvement,
so
that
one
the
drawings
are
at
100
complete.
They
have
made
the
rounds
for
internal
review
and
comments
and
those
are
being
addressed
right
now
and
then
once
they
are,
you
know
once
all
those
hundred
percent
comments
are
completed,
then
it
will
go
around
for
Signature
to
be
prepared
for
a
permit
set.
C
North
Monroe
Street,
the
90
percent
drawings
have
been
submitted
and
they're
being
reviewed
right
now,
easements
are
being
worked
on
for
temporary
excuse
me.
Temporary
easements
are
being
worked
on
for
that
one
and
then
the
next
category
we
have
is
preparing
for
construction,
which
is
16th
Street
North
in
Westover
Village,
and
so
this
one
we're
very
happy
to
say
it
is
below
the
five
hundred
thousand
dollar
threshold
so
that
we're
able
to
use
the
on-call
contractors-
and
so
that's
you
know,
documents
are
being
prepared
permits
and
construction
is
anticipated.
C
We
originally
would
have
been
able
to
do
construction
for
this.
One,
probably
like
early
late
fall
early
winter,
but
in
this
one
the
intersection.
This
is
by
sort
of
the
West
over
commercial
area,
with
the
I'm
trying
to
remember
the
name
of
it.
What's
the
pizza
place
right
there
Hannah
the
Italian
store
the
Italian
store.
Thank
you.
So
late
fall
December!
That's
when
all
the
shops
are
incredibly
busy,
so
they
have
asked
that
we
wait
until
after
their
Christmas
rush.
So
this
is
anticipated
to
start
in
early
2024.
C
So
then,
in
construction
we
have
11th
Street
North
in
Danville
that
Park
project
that
one's
getting
close
to
being
done.
The
construction
got
extended
for
a
little
bit
longer
due
to
some
electrical
issues
and
once
that
kind
of
gets
done,
they're
going
to
be
starting
new
plantings
in
October
Hillside
Park.
They
are
working
on
signage
and
planting
plan
for
that
one
12th
Street
and
South
Scott
that
intersection
Improvement.
A
H
Urgent
hi
Laura:
where
can
I
find
that
project
list
online?
Is
it
online
this.
C
Is
not
so
we
Bridget,
we
don't
have
everything
kind
of
worked
out
with
the
website
right
now
in
terms
of
what
we're
going
to
be
posting
and
what
we
aren't
going
to
be
posting
there
so
Eileen
it
also
asked
this
was
one
of
the
questions.
I
was
going
to
try
to
address
as
well
we're
going
to
have
a
project
list
and
we
are
going
to
have
a
first
priority
list.
C
We
just
right
now.
Don't
have
those
posted,
but
Bridget
wrote
for
the
moment
in
terms
of
each
of
the
projects
that
we
went
over.
C
They
have
all
the
projects
have
a
their
own
web
page
that
you
can
access
through
the
main,
a
p
webpage
there'll
be
a
link
for
all
the
CIP
projects,
and
you
can
click
on
that.
We
also
just
recently
went
through
them
and
have
been
updating
the
status
for
all
the
projects.
I
haven't
reviewed
them
myself.
Just
to
you
know,
confirm
what
kinds
of
comments
we've
got
on
it,
but
the
list
is
definitely
there
or
I
should
say
a
link
to
each
of
the
projects.
Is
there
right
now.
H
H
R
G
C
So
the
we
have
a
capital
Improvement
project
list
that
has
links
to
all
the
projects
that
have
been
funded,
so
the
ones
that
are
on
this
list
that
we're
going
over
with
you
all
are
not
funded
projects.
So.
R
G
R
O
G
C
So
Eileen,
if
you're
available
tomorrow,
how
about
we
have
a
call
and
I'll
walk
you
through
how
the
specifics
on
how
you
get
to
it.
If
you
go
to
the
a
to
the
program
webpage,
there
is
a
link
to
our
Capital
Improvement
Jenny,
just
added
the
link
to
the
chat,
so
there's
a
link
now
in
the
chat
that
has
all
those
perfect.
H
H
C
C
C
Q
B
G
C
So
Eileen
there
there
are
some
things
that
I
don't
have
answers
to,
because
it's
not
something
that
has
been
done
for
a
while
and
so
we're
think
of
it
as
we're
setting
things
up
to
make
it
function
well
for
everybody
moving
forward,
but
we're
we're
kind
of
in
a
transition
process
right
now.
So
please
try
to
be
patient
with
us,
because
we
want
to
make
it
work
for
everybody.
C
We
want
the
information
to
be
clear
for
everyone,
we're
just
not
we're
just
not
there
yet,
but
as
far
as
sending
this
list
out
to
you
all.
Yes,
we
can
do
that
so
that
every
arneck
representative
has
it
great
thanks.
Okay,.
M
Laura
so
I
wasn't
gonna
I,
wasn't
gonna
mention
this
and
tell
you
we're
going
to
send
this
out
to
everybody,
but
just
for
clarification,
the
on
Quebec
Street.
M
B
C
M
C
On
the
end
planning-
that's
probably
the
old
name,
it
just
never
got
updated.
G
C
But
yes,
let's,
okay,
let's
do
it
and
I'll
go
through
all
that,
because
there
are
other
questions.
I
know
you've
had
too
that
I
wanted
to
address
directly
with
you
as
well,
so
that
would
be
fantastic.
Let's
do
that!
Okay!
Thank
you.
F
Question
yeah,
so
the
question
I've
got
is
that
you
know
the
last
funding
around.
We
reached
all
the
way
down
to
project
number
12.
on
the
points
list
and
then
jump
to
23
..
This
list,
that's
in
in
planning,
does
seem
to
be
those
projects
that
are
at
the
top
of
the
of
the
current
Point
list.
F
Now
that
they're
at
least
the
most
recent
version
that
we've
all
all
gotten,
which
is
a
good
thing,
I
mean
that's
what
the
point
system
is
designed
to
do
is
to
you
know,
let
everybody
get
their
projects
funded
in
order
in
which
they,
you
know,
survive
in
the
queue
but
Tim's
explanation
in
the
past
funding
sessions
for
dipping
so
far
down.
Is
that
that
these
several
of
these
at
the
top
of
the
list
just
were
not.
You
know
the
neighborhoods
lost
interest
or
they
weren't
lots.
C
B
C
So
the
list
and
and
our
goal
is
to
start
at
the
very
top
and
and
tick
them
off
one
by
one
as
we
go
down,
but
you
know
for
for
lots
of
reasons,
projects
aren't
ready.
You
know
with
another
issue.
We
had
for
many
years.
Was
the
moratorium
for
doing
lighting
so
a
lot
of
those
projects,
just
kind
of
languished
at
the
top
before.
F
C
R
Okay,
so
then
the
other
question
popped
up
in
last
meeting
was
you
know
how
much
money
we
have
left
to
fund
a
new
project,
and
so
just
this
is
this:
a
snapshot
of
you
know
the
program
and
issued
Bond
balance,
which
an
issued
one
means
the
bond
amount
that
has
been
approved
by
the
voters,
but
not
yet
sold.
So
we
sell
Bond
based
on
a
cash
flow
analysis
that
how
much
money
we
need
every
year.
R
The
reason
is
because
when
we
sell
a
bond
we
pay
interest,
so
we
don't
want
to
pay
interest
for
the
money
that
we're
not
using.
So
we
have
about
14
million
dollars
on
each
word
and
sold
one
so
far,
but
out
of
that,
8.7
is
already
committed
to
projectors.
So
we
have
remaining
balance
of
5.3
million
dollars
for
new
projects
to
fund.
So
this
is
going
to
be
used.
This
part
of
this
is
going
to
be
used
by
the
coming
the
December
funding
session
so
other
than
that.
R
So
this
is
the
balance
we
have.
R
E
I
Go
ahead:
Dawn,
okay,
yeah!
The
question
is:
how
much
of
that
unallocated
5.3
million?
How
much
would
we
expect
to
be
allocated
in
December.
C
I
can
answer
that
we
we
don't
know
yet
done
because
we're
still
waiting
to
see
which
projects
are
going
to
be
passing
petitions.
So
there's
a
bit
more
work.
We
have
to
do
as
well
as
some
more
of
the
cost
estimates
coming
in.
So
it's
it's
too
early
to
tell
that.
R
I
C
D
I'm
trying
to
figure
this
stupid
machine
out,
we
are
going
to
allocate
5.3
million
in
the
December
funding
ground.
After
that,
when
do
we
go
to
the
board
and
ask
for
more
funding
for
neighborhood
conservation.
R
No,
that's
a
good
question,
so
the
next
Bond
here
is
next
year,
which
is
2024
so
by
July.
The
board
is
going
to
approve
another
bond
for
us
which
the
voters
are
going
to
put
on
November
24,
so
starting
from
I
would
say:
January
February,
it's
better
for
us.
You
know
to
for
anyone
to
go
to
the
board
and
ask
for
additional
funding.
As
you
said,
you
know
we
will
know.
You
know
how
much
we're
gonna
have
left
over
from
the
5.3
by
the
end
of
December.
After
refunding
session.
R
E
E
We
we
could
use
it
for
future
projects
for
future
funding
rounds.
Whatever's
left
over
okay.
D
R
Yes,
yes,
and
no,
and
yes
is
because
you
know
they
have
to
see
first,
how
much
money
we
have
on
a
locator
when
we
ask
a
new
money.
So
on
that
again,
you
know
if
we
show
them,
you
know
how
much
we
need,
how
many
projects
we
have
and
I'm
walking
around
how
much
money
we
need.
So
those
numbers
has
to
be
done.
R
D
Okay,
so
can
we
borrow
some
money
from
somebody
and
just
spend
like
wild
madly,
good
question
I.
G
R
That's
correct
yeah.
This
covers
in
December
and
then,
if
you
have
something
left
for
June
funding
session,
that
will
cover
that
too.
But
also
there
are
some
projects
that
we've
completed
and
then
we
are
in
the
close-up
process.
So
we
might
have
some
savings
on
those
projects
that
we're
going
to
disclose
in
the
future
as
well.
R
I
E
A
pretty
needy
presentation
for
us,
so
yep.
M
R
Q
So
actually
the
discussion
tonight
has
been
very
interesting
because
it
kind
of
documents
why
we're
putting
together
this
project
selection
process,
because
a
lot
of
the
questions
have
indicated
some
confusion
about
how
we
do
it
and
how
we
justify
it
and
that
sort
of
thing,
so
this
presentation
is
based
on
feedback.
We've
gotten
from
you
from
the
surveys.
We've
did
a
couple
months
ago,
questions
you've
raised
during
meetings
and
in
chats
questions,
you've
provided
to
the
staff.
Q
So
a
lot
of
your
input
is
part
of
this
presentation
and
we're
also
trying
to
address
the
the
findings
and
concerns
from
the
program
review.
So
we
want
a
process
that
does
that
as
well,
so
we
can
go
to
the
next
page.
Q
So
the
first
thing
is
that
project
selection
is
not
about
picking
winners
and
losers.
Q
Ideally,
we
would
fund
every
project
if
it
was
a
quality
if
it
was
qualified,
but
we
don't
have
that
kind
of
Ideal
environment.
So
we
need
to
find
some
way
to
prioritize
how
we
choose
projects.
Q
Q
So,
as
somebody
said,
ideally,
we
would
pick
the
top
points
on
the
the
top
the
projects
with
the
most
points
on
the
list,
but
that
doesn't
always
work
out,
because
those
projects
aren't
always
able
to
be
qualified
for
funding,
and
the
project
selection
is
also
about
supporting
participation
in
the
program
as
broadly
as
possible,
serving
all
populations
across
the
county
and
just
basically
improving
the
livability
of
our
neighborhoods,
and
those
kind
of
things
were
taken
from
the
report
as
the
program
review
next
page,
please
so
for
capital
projects,
which
is
what
we're
talking
about.
Q
These
are
CIP
projects
that
we're
talking
about
in
this
presentation.
There
are
three
factors
that
affect
project
selection:
the
points,
what
we're
going
to
call
qualification
factors
and
external
constraints
so
go
to
the
next
chart,
please
so
on
the
left,
what
we're
really
looking?
We
asked
you
to
comment
on
the
points
system
that
we
currently
have
and
the
most
frequent
comment
was
wanting
to
add
categories,
and
those
categories
were
related
to
types
of
projects
like
sidewalk
project
to
a
park
or
a
Safety
project
or
storm
water
project.
Q
So
what
became
clear
when
we
got
through
that
is
that
we
need
to
make
points
more
focused
on
categories
that
emphasize
encouraging
neighborhoods
to
participate
in
the
program,
an
ensuring
fairness
in
the
distribution
of
projects.
Q
Q
So
the
points
that
are
highest,
the
projects
with
the
highest
number
of
points
in
the
queue
would
then
proceed
on
to
the
next
phase
of
selection.
If
they
could,
the
the
chart
on
the
right,
which
I
know,
is
hard
to
read,
but
is
a
list
of
potential
Points
categories
based
on
the
feedback
we
got
from
you
and
it
shows
if
they
are
currently
at
points
category
and
what
the
points
are
for
those
categories.
Q
So
what
we're
going
to
do
is
ask
you
to
look
at
these
proposed
Points
categories
and
kind
of
rank,
order
them
or
put
values
next
to
them
in
the
proposed
value.
Column
would
probably
narrow
down
the
number.
Some
of
these
categories
may
be
duplicative
or
overlap,
but
you
can
see
if
you
go
through
them.
Most
of
them
focus
on
encouraging
participation
in
the
program
and
ensuring
projects
are
distributed
equitably
among
neighborhoods.
Q
So
so
there
is
an
action
item
out
of
this,
for
you,
which
I
will
summarize
again
at
the
end
of
the
presentation,
but
this
is
and
how
we
would
like
to
approach
points
next
chart.
Please
qualification
factors
then
look
at
how
projects
Support,
Program,
County
and
neighborhood
goals
and
priorities
and
how
ready
they
are
to
be
executed,
they're
a
little
more
subjective
in
nature.
Q
You
know
how
do
they
impact
relative
to
the
needs
and
priorities?
How
strongly
does
the
neighborhood
support
the
project?
What's
the
cost
of
the
project?
Do
we
have
a
good
mix
of
project
types
in
any
given
funding
round
and
are
there
some
complexities
on
the
right
side
shows
the
kind
of
categories
we
would
consider
under
qualification
factors?
Q
This
list
is
the
bullets
under
the
each
of
these
categories:
Equity,
environment,
safety
mix
of
project
types,
neighborhood,
support,
cost
and
budget.
Q
The
bullets
under
them
are
just
examples
of
what
we
will
consider
when
considering
whether
a
project
is
ready
to
go
forward
and
whether
it's
qualified
and
Laura
has
mentioned,
she
went
through
some
of
the
InDesign
project.
She
was
mentioning
these
kinds
of
things
that
they're
still
working
on
to
see
if
a
project
can
be
ready
for
funding.
So
this
is
the
meat
of
what
we
will
be
looking
at
each
funding
round
for
the
projects
that
are
at
the
at
the
top
of
the
points
list.
Q
Okay,
next
chart,
as
Laura
mentioned,
there
are
some
external
constraints
that
factor
into
this
and,
as
we
just
talked
about
at
length,
budget
is
one
of
them
and
there
are
other
factors
that
can
affect
the
our
ability
to
carry
out
a
project
overall
budget
constraints,
staff
resources
within
the
county,
things
like
code
restrictions
or
County
policy
review
initiatives.
You
remember,
we
had
the
street
light
policy
review,
which
held
up
all
our
street
light
projects
or
possible
neighborhood
issues
such
as
a
inactive
civic
association.
So
that's
another
Factor.
Q
So
this
is
a
nominal
project
evaluation
process,
we're
thinking
of
that.
Before
the
beginning
of
each
fiscal
year,
the
executive
committee
will
appoint
a
six-person
project
evaluation
team
to
be
led
by
the
Vice
chair.
This
would
kind
of
replace
what
had
been
the
points
team,
even
though
it
says
teams
will
be
chosen
by
lot.
Actually,
we've
had
some
further
thinking
about
that,
and
what's
important
is
that
the
teams
be
balanced
and
reflective
of
the
county.
Q
So
we're
going
to
look
at
the
neighborhoods
by
geography,
economics
and
other
factors
and
try
to
put
together
some
teams
that
reflect
some
balance
across
the
county,
for
example,
if
we
did
it
by
lot,
we
might
wind
up
with
five
Civic
associations
from
Columbia
Pike
enough
thing,
and
that's
not
really
what
we're
looking
for
we're.
Looking
for
an
equitable
balance
of
interest
from
North
and
South,
dents
and
less
dense,
more
residential
and
that
kind
of
stuff
each
rnac
member
can
only
serve
once
during
any
CIP
cycle.
Q
At
the
beginning
of
each
funding
round,
the
county
staff
will
identify
the
proposed
projects
with
the
highest
point
totals
for
evaluation.
The
number
of
projects
identified
will
be
based
on
budgetary
considerations,
possible
external
constraints.
The
number
can
change
as
projects
move
along,
so
we
could
add
a
project
or
subtract
a
project,
but
basically
the
projects
that
Laura
described
is
in
design,
for
example,
are
the
projects
we're
considering
for
this
fund
income
and
the
staff
kind
of
picked
those
projects
out
earlier
in
the
earlier
in
the
cycle?
Q
If,
for
some
reason,
a
project
with
a
high
point,
total
cannot
proceed
for
some
reason
to
evaluation
of
qualification
factors.
Then
the
county
staff
will
briefly
our
Knack
and
document
it.
For
example,
if
there's
a
Code
issue
or
a
policy
issue
or
something
which
prevents
the
project
from
being
considered,
will
document
it
and
we'll
tell
the
arnac.
I
Q
That
next
slide,
so
what
the
process
will
be
is
that
the
project
evaluation
team
once
it
stood
up,
will
be
briefed
by
the
county
staff
at
the
beginning
of
the
funding
round
on
projects
under
consideration.
So
that
would
be
a
like
again
referring
to
what
Laura
described
as
the
InDesign
projects
for
this
funding
round.
That
would
be
a
briefing
early
in
the
funding
round
in
a
little
more
depth
than
she
gave
the
larger
group
tonight
and
a
little
more
depth
for
the
smaller
project
evaluation
team.
Q
And
again
this
does
not
preclude
projects
being
added
or
subtracted
as
we
move
along.
So
that
would
probably
happen
in
late
October.
Q
So
rather
than
wait
till
we're
voting
on
a
project
in
December
or
May
or
June
rather,
and
raising
an
issue
that
and
then
scrambling
around
to
redo
motions
and
and
do
that
we'll
do
it
the
month
before,
and
we
can
raise
those
issues
a
month
earlier
so
and
not
to
pick
up
Bernie
but
Bernie
always
has
an
issue
on
Parks
projects
about
what
kind
of
plantings
and
stuff
like
that.
Well
now,
instead
of
doing
that
during
the
funding
round
meeting,
we
can
do
that
much
earlier
in
the
process.
Q
So
then,
the
project
after
the
pre-funding
round
meeting
in
November
and
May,
the
project,
evaluation
team
and
the
staff
will
develop
final
recommendations
to
make
to
the
arnac
at
the
funding
round
and
prepare
a
project
booklet
which
will
include
the
justification
for
why
we're
proposing
these
projects
for
funding
and
if
a
project
can't
be
wrecked
recommended
because
of
an
external
constraint
or
some
other
factor
that
will
be
identified
and
then
at
the
funding
round,
we'll
have
our
normal
kind
of
voting
on
the
projects.
Q
I
know
people
are
always
concerned
about
how
much
work
this
means
for
them.
The
way
it
looks
like
in
this
process
is,
it
would
be
for
the
project
evaluation
team,
probably
three
meetings,
one
early
in
the
funding
round.
I
just
identify
the
projects
which
are
being
considered
than
one
prior
to
the
pre-funding
round
and
then,
when
prior
to
the
funding
round.
So
maybe
five
or
six
hours
of
your
time
during
a
six-month
period
and
you'd
do
it
once
we
will
rotate
the
teams
each
funding
route.
Q
So,
okay
next
slide.
So
next
steps.
We
think
we
should
go
ahead
and
implement
this
process
for
the
fall.
2023
funding
route
on
a
trial
basis
using
the
projects
that
Laura
described
this
evening,
the
InDesign
projects
or
the
projects
we'll
consider,
and
it's
a
good
opportunity
to
to
test
this
process
and
see
how
it
works.
Q
I
Q
We
would
need
to
establish
a
project
evaluation
team
next
at
next
month's
meeting
and
probably
what
the
executive
committee
will
do
is
we
will
work
to
put
together
a
funding
team
before
that,
because
we
don't
want
to
surprise
anybody
at
the
October
meeting.
We
want
to
be
able
to
notify
people
ahead
of
time
and,
as
you
remember,
we
have
an
X
of
that
5.3
million
that
Steve
identified.
Q
One
million
of
that
is
set
aside
during
this
cycle
for
Equity
projects,
and
so
we
want
to
keep
those
on
a
separate
track
for
the
remainder
of
this
CIP
cycle
until
we've
distributed
that
one
million
in
equity
projects
and
then
we'll
merge
it
back
in
to
the
project
selection
process,
where
Equity
will
be
a
factor
in
multiple
times.
Q
Next
slide,
so
what
we
want
to
do
is
conduct
a
survey,
and
this
is
an
action
item
for
all
of
you
and
I.
Guess
we'll
send
me
an
email
out
to
you
to
talk
about
it,
but
we
want
to
survey
on
the
proposed
Points
categories
and
ask
for
your
recommendations
on
point
values
or
rank
ordering
or
whatever
and
we'd,
probably
like
those
back
by
October
1st.
So
we
can
talk
about
it
at
the
October
arnac
meeting.
Q
The
plan
would
be
to
implement
the
new
Points
categories
and
values
for
the
spring
2024
funding
round,
but
we'll
make
sure
that
none
of
the
existing
projects
in
the
queue
will
be
penalized
during
this
transition.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
somebody's
worked
long
and
hard
to
get
to
the
top
of
the
list,
as
in
all
of
a
sudden
run
into
a
problem,
because
we've
changed
the
system
in
the
middle
of
the
in
the
middle
of
the
game.
Here
after
the.
Q
Such
as
type
of
project
scope
of
project
cost
of
project
to
see
if
it
makes
any
sense
to
have
different
tracks
for
different
types
of
projects,
we
don't
know
if
that
makes
sense
at
this
time,
so
we
want
to
kind
of
just
once
this
fall
funding
round
is
over
and
we
have
a
chance
to
breathe.
We
want
to
kind
of
look
at
the
projects
that
are
left
and
say
if
we
organize
them
into
these
kinds
of
categories,
is
there
a
different
path?
Q
Q
So
these
are
just
some
thoughts
that
came
out
of
this
process
of
putting
these
this
together.
Q
So
the
the
project
cue
I
mean
if
we
use
the
points
as
strictly
a
prioritization
process
and
focus
the
Points
categories
on
neighborhood,
Pro
participation
in
the
process
and
equitable
distribution
of
projects,
we
might
be
able
to
try
some
look
at
how
the
project
queue
Works
a
little
differently
right
now.
Q
You
can't
get
points
unless
you've
identified
a
project,
but
maybe
there's
a
possibility
of
neighborhoods
getting
points
without
a
specific
project
being
identified
if
they're
participating
in
planning
or
they
haven't
been
awarded
projects
recently,
and
that
might
also
give
the
neighborhood
neighborhoods
a
chance
to
substitute
projects
in
the
queue
without
penalty
if
they
haven't
reached
the
like
InDesign
phase,
or
something
like
that,
so
it
just
gives
us
a
little
more
flexibility
to
reward
neighborhoods
that
are
doing
planning
and
letting
them
gain
equity
in
the
process,
even
if
they
don't
have
a
specific
project
in
mind
at
the
moment.
Q
One
of
the
options
that
it
might
allow
us
to
do
is
to
make
the
petitioning
process
more
of
a
civic
association
function
right
now.
The
petitioning
process
is
a
dead
stop
if
you
don't
pass
the
petitioning
process,
but
maybe
we
could
make
the
petitioning
process
more
of
a
civic
association
process
where
they
could
decide
whether
they
want
to
override
the
results
of
the
petitioning
process.
L
Q
We
can
hear
you
okay,
my
screen
just
I'm.
Sorry,
my
screen
just
went,
went
blank.
So
hang
on
a
second
here,
I
guess
it
was
right.
It
was
resting
too
long.
Q
Okay,
sorry,
all
right,
so
we
could
change
the
petitioning
process
from
a
gate
to
a
qualification
Factor.
Basically,
it's
just
something
to
consider
and
do
we
want
to
implement
a
similar
type
of
survey
for
Parks
projects
and
then
the
last
thought
again
not
critical,
but
do
we
want
to
instead
of
calling
people
block
Representatives?
Do
we
want
to
change
it
to
civic
association,
project
representatives
and
required
for
all
types
of
projects,
not
just
sidewalk
projects,
so
just
some
thoughts.
Q
So
next
next
slide.
Q
The
desired
outcomes
for
trying
this
process
out
would
be
to
support
the
goals
to
expand
the
scope,
diversity
and
distribution
of
Arlington
neighborhood
projects
to
provide
more
opportunity
for
our
Knack
members
to
participate
in
the
program
to
strengthen
their
knowledge
of
our
neck
members
about
programs
and
process
projects
to
provide
the
rnac
members
with
sufficient
detail
about
the
programs.
So
they
can
communicate
more
effectively
with
their
Civic
associations
and
to
improve
the
documentation
of
how
we
select
projects
create
a
better
audit.
Q
Trail,
provide
better
information
on
the
benefits
of
each
project
and
provide
better
information.
So
we
can
communicate
externally
about
the
impact
of
the
program
to
the
county,
leadership
and
and
the
public,
so
that
was
kind
of
what
I
wanted
to
say.
We
would
like
to
go
ahead
and
basically
test
this
out
and
put
together
a
project
team
and
start.
D
B
J
J
The
queue
that
you're
you're
in
the
running
and
I'm
wondering
what
the
impact
will
be
if
you're
a
neighborhood
that
you're
near
the
top-
and
we
start
this
new
process
and
suddenly
you
get
kicked
down
you're
you're
at
a
disadvantage,
because
because
of
this
new
system,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
hard
feelings
about
that,
and
you
know
I
just
wonder
about
that
yeah!
But
that's
I'm!.
Q
Just
sort
of
trying
that
out
yeah
no,
but
that's
why
I
said
if,
as
we
as
we
transition
we're
not
going
to
penalize
people
I
mean
we've
been
reaching
down
deep
into
the
queue
as
it
is
the
last
couple
of
funding
rounds.
But
now
the
the
the
the
intent
is.
J
Not,
but
usually
we
reach
down
in
the
queue,
because
you
know
projects
didn't
get
their
approval
from
their
neighborhood
or
you
know,
they've
been
delayed
for
one
reason
or
another.
It
wasn't
because
you
know
of
the
points.
It
was
because
of
other
reasons
that
we
ended
up
reaching
farther
down
the
queue,
and
you
know
my
neighborhood
is
one
of
the
neighborhoods
that
benefited
from
that
in
the
past,
because
we
were
ready.
J
You
know
we
were
kind
of
shovel
ready
on
a
project
and
even
though
it
was
farther
down
the
queue
it
got
picked
up
because
the
people
above
us
in
the
queue
weren't
quite
ready,
and
so
that
can
happen,
you
know
I.
You
know
I
admire
your
your
work
on
this
I'm
just
wondering
how
what's
going
to
work
in
reality.
N
Hey
Sarah,
this
is
John
Kirkpatrick,
well,
I'm,
hearing,
David,
say
and
David
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
projects
that
have
points
at
the
top
of
the
queue
now
under
the
new
system
would
be
grandfathered
in
so
they
would
not.
They
would
not
be
moved
down
in
the
queue
as
a
result
of
switching
to
the
new
system.
J
N
J
If
we're,
if
we're
gonna,
if
we're
gonna,
evaluate
things
along
different
tracks,
what
does
that
mean?
Does
that
mean
that
that,
like
Street
projects
will
be
devalued
or
you
know,
Park
projects
will
will
do
you
have
an
acute
I
mean
I,
don't
understand
how
that
affects
the
decision,
making.
Q
E
It's
a
tough
problem,
yeah
and
Sarah
I
would
just
add.
This
is
Kathy.
You
know,
as
John
emphasized
in
Davidson
in
his
presentation.
We
know
we're
going
through
a
transition
here
and
we'll
work
very
hard
to
make
sure
that
neighborhoods
are
not
penalized
as
we
go
through
this
transition
of
one
approach
to
another,
but
I
will
say
that
we've
kind
of
been
doing
a
variation
of
this
all
along
for
more
than
just
a
couple
of
funding
rounds.
E
Ever
since
my
recollection
is
ever
since
we
had
the
reduced
funding,
we've
had
to
kind
of
make
a
a
pick
and
choose
selection
of
things
to
fund
and
we're
not
advocating
going
back
to
that.
But
we're
advocating
having
a
a
rational
process
that
we
document
and
we
can
explain
how
we're
making
the
how
we're
selecting
the
projects
to
be
funded.
So
we'll
just
have
to
try
this
out.
You
know
and
see
how.
J
Well,
listen,
I'm,
not
trying
to
be
negative.
I
I
admire
this
work
and
you
know
it's
a
valiant
effort
and
I.
You
know:
I
I,
look
forward
to
seeing
how
the
Sun
falls.
Yeah.
Q
M
Q
The
way
things
work,
if
somebody
has
an
issue,
it
kind
of
throws
a
wrench
into
things
because
we're
trying
to
improve
a
project
at
the
last
minute
and
so
we're
trying
to
keep
the
knowledge
base
of
the
arnac
members
about
different
kinds
of
projects
high,
so
that,
as
we
go
into
the
final
decisions,
everybody
knows
what
we're
doing
and
it's
there's
a
clear
documentation
and
a
justification
and
a
record
Trail
for
it.
Q
It's
not
really
it's
not
really
as
much
different
from
what
we've
been
doing
as
it
is
formalizing
it
and
documenting
it
for
the
public
and
for
each
other
and
getting
ourselves
as
individual
members
more
involved
in
the
discussion.
Having
a
better
discussion
about
projects,
it's
it's
like
I
mean
Eileen
keeps
asking
for
the
project
list.
We
want
to
get
to
the
point
where
we're
talking
about
projects
a
lot
in
our
meetings
so
I'm.
Sorry,
there
are
other
questions.
Yeah.
D
You
have
to
push
all
the
right
buttons.
Typically
in
past
NC
projects,
we
have
worked
with
parks
and
good
old
Des
for
almost
all
of
our
projects
to
be
very
Frank.
My
civic
association
doesn't
give
a
dog
gone.
D
The
vast
majority
of
the
people
don't
give
a
dog
gone
and
don't
even
know
what
neighborhood
conservation
is
and
doesn't
care,
and
so
you
find
people
who
get
flipped
off
about
what's
happening
on
their
street
or
apart
close
to
them,
and
they
start
pushing
it
if
it,
if
at
all,
Blossom
where
I'm
going
is,
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
involve
the
County
departments
like
Des
or
Sparks,
but
look
at
what
is
in
our
Civic
associations
and
say
what
are
the
and
come
back
to
us
and
say
what
are
the
issues
that
really
need
to
be
looked
at
like
like
and
try
to
come
up
with
some
degree
of
priority
study
wide,
rather
than
just
look
at
it
from
a
civic
association
wide
or
better
or
more
appropriate?
Q
You
know
I
I,
can't
answer
that
question
Laura
or
somebody
from
the
staff
would
have
to
answer
it,
but
the
only
thing
I'll
say
about
that
is
that
may
be
a
very
valid
question,
but
that's
not
what
we're
about
I
mean
we're
about
the
neighborhoods,
and
so
we
really
should
be
focused
on
the
need,
the
broader
needs
of
of
all
our
neighborhoods
and
increasing
the
involvement
of
neighborhoods
and
making
it
less
of
a
this.
Is
my
street
so
I
want
it
kind
of
thing
as
to
what
other
things
can
happen.
C
I
I
can
add
something
with
that
Bill.
You
know
we,
you
know
through
this
the
implementation
framework
that
we've
started.
We
have
begun
reaching
out
to
staff
in
different
departments
and
divisions
and
having
some
conversation
with
what
their
interests
are,
what
their
values
are,
what
how
they
use
the
plans
and
then
what
can
they
contribute
to
a
neighborhood
working
through
assessing
what
type
of
projects
they
need
for
their
for
for
where
they
live?
So
we
do
want
to
see
that
evolve
over
time.
C
We're
not
there
yet,
because
we
just
you
know
the
program
hasn't
been
set
up
to
work
that
way
so
much.
But
you
know,
as
an
aside
to
all
of
this,
you
all
are
always
is
you
know
you?
C
You
have
access
to
the
different
department
yourself,
so
you
can
always
reach
out
to
say
the
police
department
and
say
you
know,
we'd
really
like
someone
to
walk
with
us
through
our
neighborhood
and
talk
to
us
about
where
we
can
make
some
improvements
to
Safety
in
terms
of
crime
and
those
sorts
of
things
and
turn
that
into
a
project,
and
you
can
do
the
same
with
some
of
the
park
staff.
C
D
L
L
I
think
we've
all
been
asked
to
comment
on
a
couple
of
the
slides
I
think
we
should
all
take
our
homework
and
do
that
and
get
our
comments
back
to
Kathy
and
David
over
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
and
that
would
include
any
concerns
you
have
or
whether
you
think
this
is
going
to
work
or
not.
I
think
we
should
get
all
those
comments
and
have
a
conversation
next
month
about
whether
how
we're
going
to
implement
this
but
I
think
it's
a
great
job,
David
and
I
think
you're.
L
The
only
thing
I
would
suggest
is
on
one
of
the
slides
I'll.
Send
you
my
comments
about
some
of
these
things
on
your
point
slide
I
think
you
should
have
a
set
number
to
break
out
like
either
100
or
150.
That
way,
you
always
have
a
target
number.
L
L
I
think
it's
a
great
job,
I
think
it's
transparent,
I,
think
what
you
said
before
earlier
about
making
this
process
as
transparent
as
possible
to
the
county
is
very
important
for
us,
so
that
we
never
get
caught
into
the
well.
You
did
in
my
neighborhood
versus
I.
Did
your
neighborhood
so
well
done?
Thank.
Q
F
Hi
yeah
I've
got
some
questions
and
comments.
I
mean
I.
Think
the
the
first
big
question
I've
got
is
okay,
it's
you
know.
I
reread
this
thing
now,
a
couple
of
times,
I
didn't
see
anything
in
here
at
all
that
focused
on
what
it
is
we're
trying
to
fix.
What's
the
specific
problem
that
needs
fixing
I
mean
there
certainly
are
problems
that
need
fixing.
I
mean
the
the
example
from
tonight's
earlier
discussion.
F
Is
that
hey
we've
got
these
these
half
a
dozen
projects
that
have
been
stuck
at
the
top
of
the
list,
and
you
know
we're
getting
queued
up
for
the
next
funding
round.
We're
still
not
100
sure
you
know
which
of
these
are
actually
gonna
going
to
move
and
to
me
the
number
one
problem
that
needs
fixing
I
mean
they're,
two
big
ones.
The
first
one
is
that
it's
just
taken
us
forever
to
to
get
these
projects
done.
F
But
there
are
some
things
that
are
are
within
our
control
and
the
number
one
thing
that
I
think
needs
fixing
is
this
whole
question,
which
we've
highlighted
quite
quite
effectively:
okay,
what's
the
role
of
the
civic
association
versus
the
people
on
the
Block,
and
it
is
important
to
do
a
petition
to
have
something
in
the
process
for
sidewalks,
particularly
that
that
does
continue
to
require
a
petition
but
doing
the
final
petition,
so
late
in
the
process
is
just
a
killer,
because
you
know
you
always
have
these.
F
You
know
the
small
handful
of
of
minority
homeowners
that
that
are
going
to
use
that
that
opportunity,
for
whatever
purpose
they
see
fit
and
by
then
it's
really
too
late.
You
know,
that's
the
thing
that's
broken.
I
think
is
that
that
we
get
projects
that
are
end
up
at
the
top
of
the
list.
It
just
gets
stuck
there
because
we
didn't
do
the
the
good
review
early
and
then
we
still
have
this.
F
That's
the
number
one
thing
that
we
need
to
resolve
is
okay:
what
are
we
going
to
do
with
the
petitioning
process
processes
and-
and
you
know,
what's
the
role
of
the
homeowners
versus
the
civic
association-
and
you
know
to
me-
you
know:
I've
been
doing
this
a
long
time,
I
I
for
all
the
years
that
I
served
on
this
committee,
I
can't
think
of
a
single
project
that
we
funded
that
I
wish
we
hadn't.
Okay.
Can
anybody
in
this
group
think
of
a
single
project
that
we
funded,
that
we
should
not
have
Okay?
F
What
I
see
wrong
with
your
document?
Is
that
every
place
where
you
talk
about
the
county,
the
program
in
the
neighborhood?
Not
in
one
of
those
instances,
did
you
put
the
neighborhood
as
the
first
in
the
selection
of
the
projects,
and
why
are
we
changing
that
I
mean
this
program
has
always
been
about
projects
that
the
neighborhood
is
selecting.
F
I
understand
I,
understand
that
and
I'm
not
I'm,
not
suggesting
that,
but
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
remember
our
roots
and
our
Focus,
okay
and
and
I
think
before
we
get
too
far
down
this
path
of
making
changes,
we
need
to
really
identify
as
clearly
as
we
as
we
possibly
can,
what
it
is
we're
trying
to
fix:
For,
Better
or
For
Worse.
You
know
I
was
around
when
we
did
the
the
last
big
change,
which
is
a
2005.
F
and
that's
because
we
had
terrible
terrible
cost
overruns
and
those
overruns
were
in
large
part
due
to
our
our
point
system
at
that
time
and
you've
got
some
things
in
this
proposal.
That
would
really
put
those
those
markers
back
into
play.
It's
like
giving
points
without
having
a
project.
We
never
ever
want
to
do
that.
Okay,
because
if
somebody
builds
up
enough
points
and
they
can
jump
ahead
of
of
projects
that
have
been
on
the
list,
you
know
that's
gonna,
that's
gonna
really
create
problems.
F
I
mean
a
big
part
of
why
we
adopted
the
the
waiting
in
in
line
system.
That
really
two
reasons.
One
is
it's
imminently.
Fair.
Everybody
has
the
same
opportunity
to
get
funded
and
that's
that
clearly
should
not
be
dismissed
or
minimized.
Anybody
that
thinks
that
think
that
our
program
is
unfair,
doesn't
really
understand
how
it
works.
You
know
this
waiting
in
line
system
that
we
have
is
is
by
definition
as
Fair
as
it
can
be.
F
Okay,
you
don't
need
a
you,
don't
need
a
pet
committee
to
you
know
to
override
that,
because
it's
it
really
is
is
as
Fair
as
it
can
be.
The
other
reason
we
went
with
this
current
system
so
many
years
ago
is
that
it
provides
visibility.
It
provides,
you
know,
advanced
notice,
to
Des
that
they
shouldn't
be
Paving
a
street
when
hey.
F
We
may
be
ripping
that
street
up
in
a
couple
years,
because
this
neighborhood's
got
a
got
a
our
project
in
the
queue
okay,
so
that
visibility
is
very,
very
important
in
in
the
perspective
of
the
you
know,
overall
needs
and
and
processes
of
accounting,
so
I
I
mean
there
are
a
couple
of
really
important
reasons
to
keep.
You
know:
keep
an
emphasis
on
a
waiting
in
line
kind
of
kind
of
system.
E
Thank
you
for
all
the
comments
and
we've
got
a
couple
more
people
we'll.
N
Take
two
more
questions:
caffeine,
uh-huh
Kathy:
this
is
John.
I
just
had
a
couple
responses
to
David's
comments
too.
If.
N
Thanks
a
lot,
that's
a
lot
of
thought
and
a
lot
of
experience
with
that
and
I.
Think
to
your
one
comment
about
neighborhood
participation.
We
aren't
neighborhoods
still
have
to
give
us
their
priority
projects,
and
what
we're
doing
here
are
points
a
point
system
for
the
priority
projects
that
the
neighborhoods
have
submitted.
N
So
I
mean
there
could
be
maybe
a
difference
there
if
we
were
to
allow
neighborhoods
to
accumulate
points
without
having
a
project,
but
that's
something
that
is
David
is
asking
for
feedback
on
and
the
other
thing
just
in
case.
Anyone
is
a
little
confused.
I
want
to
make
sure
people
understand
that
we're
just
looking
at
the
points,
but
the
petitioning
is
something
we
will
be
looking
at
in
the
future.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
people
keep
the
points
in
the
petitioning
separate
because
they're
serving
two
different
functions.
E
Okay,
thanks
John,
let's
see
I,
think
Alex
you're
next.
P
Yes,
thank
you
first
is
David
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
all
David
Libby
I
want
to
thank
you
for
all
the
huge
amount
of
work,
you're
doing
and
all
the
thought
you're
giving
all
the
feedback
here.
Incorporated
from
people
yeah
I
just
had
two
comments
really
one
in
response
to
Sarah's
comment.
P
I
think
Sarah
actually
makes
a
pretty
good
point
that
if,
if
like
after
you
adopt
the
new
point
system,
if
you
say
you
adopted
like
in
a
couple
months
and
then,
if
you
put
it
in
place
for
the
June
funding
round,
then
probably
some
neighborhoods
are
going
to
have
projects
that
are
going
to
go
up
and
others
are
going
to
have
projects
that
are
going
to
go
down
in
the
queue
and
the
other
option
is
to
just
basically
grandfather
the
current
point
system
and
keep
all
the
projects
that
have
already
been
proposed
in
that
system.
P
Until
those
projects
are
pretty
much
exhausted
by
either
being
funded
or
by
you
know,
failing
the
petition
process
and
then
for
all
the
new
projects,
you
would
use
the
new
point
system
and
it
might
be
like
five
years
before
you
actually
start
using
them.
If
you
do
that,
so
I'm
not
sure
what
the
answer
is,
but
I
think
those
are
the
two
choices
I
mean.
P
The
other
thing
I
want
to
respond
to
is
the
other
David's
a
comment
on
whether
projects,
what
our
neighborhoods
should
get
funding
for,
even
if
they
haven't
identified
a
new
project
for
like
being
in
the
process
of
discussing
a
new
project.
Well,
they
don't
have
one
in
the
queue
and
I
actually
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
allow
neighborhoods
to
at
least
at
least
accumulate
points
when
they're
in
the
process
of
picking
a
new
project,
because
we've
got
one
project.
P
That's
about
to
be
funded,
hopefully,
and
we're
working
on
selecting
the
next
one
and
there's
really
a
lot
of
debate
and
division
among
our
committee
about
what
to
select
and
we're
waiting
for
various
types
of
information,
some
which
we're
waiting
for
more
from
the
county
that
we're
not
getting
yet
I
know.
Staff
are
really
busy
backed
up
in
some
cases,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
we
pick
the
right
project,
but
we
also
have
a
at
least
the
way
the
current
system
works
like
if
our
project
gets
funded
in
December.
P
We
have
to
pick
our
new
project
by
November
15th
through
maximize
our
points,
so
we're
kind
of
facing
pressure
to
make
a
decision,
but
also
we
want
to
make
the
right
decision
so
I
think
to
increase
the
odds
that
projects
the
right
projects
will
be
picked
and
they'll
have
long-term
support
from
the
neighborhood
and
they'll
pass
eventually,
I
think
the
idea
of
letting
neighborhoods
accumulate
points
for
the
time
period,
when
they're
working
on
picking
a
project
is
a
good
one.
So
yeah,
that's
that's
all
I
had
okay.
Q
Thank
you,
the
other.
The
other
reason
for
that
as
well
is
that
we
don't
want
I
mean
over
time.
Q
Some
of
these
projects
take
five
to
seven
years
to
get
funded
and
the
neighborhood
changes
the
street
changes
over
time.
So
the
closer
we
can
get
the
projects
to
the
time
when
they
might
be
executed.
E
G
So
I'm
really
happy
that
we
have
people
with
lots
of
historical
knowledge,
but
I'd
like
to
remind
us
all
that
we
have
lots
of
new
members.
Even
somebody
who's
been
around
a
long
time
like
I,
have
I've
never
been
through
a
petitioning
process,
never
had
a
block
captain
on
anything.
So
there's
there's
elements
of
what
are
considered
the
current
program
that
I've
never
seen
in
action
that
I
have
no
idea
how
they
work
and
to
try
and
make
recommendations
on
how
to
change
them
becomes
really
difficult.
E
See
I
think
we're
pretty
getting
pretty
close
to
the
end
of
the
time
here.
I
guess
I
would
just
add
and
David.
Maybe
you
want
to
ramp
assesses
too.
Your
comments
are
welcome.
You
know
and
we'll
send
off
the
service
about
the
points
prioritization
of
categories
and
values
and
the
ranking
is
better
off
and
all
of
any
other
comments
that
you
want
to
submit,
of
course
are
welcome.
E
So
it's
been
a
good
discussion
and
I
guess:
I
want
to
add
a
lot
of
things
too,
to
David
for
really
hard
and
and
thoughtful
work
on
this
process
and
incorporating
all
the
input
that
you
guys
have
provided
over
many
months
and
looking
forward
to
moving
ahead
with
this.
So
David.
Do
you
want
to
say
anything
interesting.
Q
Here,
yeah,
the
only
thing
I'll
say,
is
I.
Think
this
this
fall
gives
us
a
good
opportunity
to
test
something
because
the
projects
that
Laura
showed
earlier
on
the
on
the
list
of
the
first
five
or
six
projects,
it
kind
of-
gives
us
a
good
test
bed
to
try
this
out
and
see
what
works
and
see
what
doesn't
work
and
if
something
doesn't
work,
then
we'll
tweak
it
or
play
with
it.
Q
You
know
to
address
the
concerns
of
the
membership,
about
fairness
and
and
all
that
sort
of
stuff,
but
I
think
we
need
to
try
something
to
address
some
of
the
issues
that
were
in
the
in
the
report
and
I
hope.
This
will
do
some
of
this.
Some
of
that.
Q
And
I
would
I
would
just
say
part
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
here
is
have
a
good
documentary
record
of
why
we
picked
the
projects
we
did
and
and
overcome
that
perception
that
it's
just
a
few
loud
people
trying
to
get
their
way
and
make
it
no.
This
is
something
that's
well
thought
out
well
considered
and
in
the
best
interest
of
the
county
as
a
whole,
so
as
well
as
the
neighborhoods.
E
Hey,
let's
see
I
I,
think
we'll
we'll
close
here,
we're
getting
pretty
close
to
nine
o'clock
and
just
want
to
thank
everybody
again
for
attendance
and
a
good
discussion
and
watch
for
the
email.
I'm
asking
for
further
input.
Send
any
comments
you
have
you
know
those
will
be
welcome
and
we'll
Forge
ahead
kind
of
with
some
of
these
changes
as
we
progress
at
the
end
of
the
year.
So
thanks
everybody.
K
E
N
Kathy
this
is
John
I,
just
like
to
make
a
plug
for
the
the
points.
The
points
Review
Committee
that
David
was
talking
about.
If
you
can,
if
you
are
interested,
please
email
me
because
I'll
be
cheering
it.
N
We
can't
guarantee
that
you
would
be
picked
because
we
want
to
make
sure
we
have
a
Equitable
representative
distribution
of
the
neighborhoods,
but
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
us
know
heads
up
if
you
are
interested
in
doing
that
and
I'll
drop,
my
name
in
the
chat
before
signing
off
my
email
in
the
chat.
E
Okay,
all
right
thanks
again
David
and
thanks
to
Laura
chickway
and
staff
for
all
the
information
you
guys
provided
I,
think
we're
making
strides
on
getting
back
on
track
with
presenting
information
about
projects
that
we
used
to
do
on
a
more
routine
basis.
So
we're
happy
to
be
moving
in
that
direction,
see
chickway
Aurora
and
you
guys
want
to
have
anything
I
just
want
to
Echo
again.
Thank
you.
E
A
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
want
to
thank
David
again,
as
others
have
for
all
your
work
on
this
I
mean
this
has
been
a
huge
task,
but
I
think
it's
generated
a
lot
of
discussion
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
seeing
some
of
the
results
and
how
it
can
improve
the
process
for
the
program.
So
thank
you.
E
C
That's
it
sorry,
Laura
go
ahead;
no,
no!
No!
No
I
was
just
gonna
Echo.
What
chickway
said:
I
mean
I,
you
know,
and
and
also
Kathy
and
John
I
mean
all
all
three
of
you
with
David.
You
guys
have
just
been
tremendous
in
terms
of
thinking,
things
through
and
being
so
responsive
to
trying
to
engage
everyone
and
keep
people
involved
and
aware
of
things
and
keep
all
this
whole
process
moving
forward.
So
it's
you
know
a
lot
more
to
come.
So
we're
excited.