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Everybody
I'm
John
McIntyre
to
the
climate,
change
energy
and
environment
commission
for
people
know
that
we
are
recording
this
session
and
it
will
be
posted
online.
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Hi
everyone,
my
name
is
David
Evans
Steve
I'm,
a
scientist
I'm
an
oceanographer
by
trade.
It's
been
many.
C
The
University
of
Rhode
Island
I'm,
actually
there
and
as
a
research
scientist,
managed
ocean
programs
for
the
Navy
spent
10
years
at
NOAA
research
for
half
of
that
time,
Smithsonian
is
the
under
Secretary
of
science,
which
means
that
all
the
cool
parts
of
the
Smithsonian
responsibility
and
three
years
ago,
just
as
the
pandemic,
was
Illuminating
on
us.
Our
tired.
After
spending
seven
years
as
the
Executive
Director
of
National
Science
team
I've,
always
been
interested
in
the
intersection
of
Science
and
public
policy
and
Science
Education
as
well
as.
F
F
We
do
General
government
relations
and
also
grant
writing
and
I'm
a
former
Hill
staffer,
but
I've
been
out
in
the
private
sector
for
about
13
or
14
years.
So
I'm.
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Hi
Suzanne
swink
I
have
a
very
similar
background
from
Elizabeth
triggered
what
Elizabeth
and
I
are
friends.
We
didn't
even
know
that.
D
G
More
than
a
decade,
I
too
made
political
science
I'm.
Vice
president
Observer
relations
for
Core
Power,
which
is
a
battery
manufacturer
and
energy
storage
company
based
in
Idaho
I
joined
core
about
five
months
ago
before
that
I
spent
12
years
with
BP
in
their
Federal
lobbying
shop.
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I
Jonathan
morgenstein
I'm,
I,
guess
I
I,
don't
know.
I'm
assuming
I
was
in
Peru.
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The
finance
team
but
been
exploring
sort
of
different
routes
around
Innovation
and
product
development
development,
so
just
I've,
always
been
really
passionate
about
local
government.
My
first
job
was
working
in
my
Township
Township
apartment,
so
I
wanted
to
come
check
it
out
great.
H
K
I'm
Mark
Greenwood,
commissioner,
since
we're
doing
background
here,
I
was
before
I
retired.
Several
years
ago,
I
worked
at
EPA
for
16
years,
general
counsel's
office
and
part
of
me
paid
an
album
chemical
regulation,
anyone's
private
practice
for
23
years
and
now.
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Make
sure
you
want
to
introduce
yourself?
Sorry
if
you
want
to
introduce
yourself
hold
on
me,
why
don't
I
let
Stephen
and
Rich
introduce
themselves
first.
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You
bet
hey
good
evening:
everyone
I'm,
Steve,
Burr
I,
am
a
county
staff
on
the
air
team
as
the
as
the
County's
energy
manager,
so
working
with
all
things
cep:
Community
energy
implementation,
including
the
county
facilities,
which
I'll
talk
about
a
little
bit
later
with
the
decarborization
tool
project
so
nice
to
join
you
all
tonight.
D
N
Good
evening
everybody
Rich
Dooley
with
the
air
team
as
well
program
manager
and
focusing
on
the
community
energy
plan,
making
sure
it's
it's
current,
maintaining
it
implementing
it
managing
a
number
of
different
projects,
wrapping
one
up
on
energy,
Assurance
planning.
As
we
speak,
and
looking
forward
to
tonight's
discussion,
thanks
Eric.
O
Hi
everyone
and
welcome
to
the
new
Commissioners
excuse
me:
I
joined
the
commission
six
months
ago,
I
think
maybe
a
bit
longer
and
in
my
professional
life,
I
recently
joined
the
clean
energy
buyers
Association,
where
I
lead
their
Global
programs.
Thank
you.
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Okay,
so
yeah
and
I'm
pretty
sure
it
was
probably
June
so
drive
a
motion
to
approve.
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A
L
H
A
You
thank
you
all
in
favor,
with
the
change
making
sure
we
get
the.
N
L
A
Talk
about
it
without
their
input,
okay,
so
we
can
quickly
now
go
to
the
next
agenda
item
so
Stephen.
It's
all
yours.
M
Okay,
perfect
sounds
sounds
good
and
folks
can
see
the
PowerPoint
and
and
I'm
coming
through
all
right.
Yes,
great.
Well,
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
to
join
you
and
in
the
meeting
and
and
so
tonight,
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
decarbonization
tool.
I
was
here
last
fall
talking
about
the
tool
while
it
was
under
development,
and
so
this
is
so.
M
The
presentation
today
is
going
to
be
a
bit
of
an
overview
of
the
tool
again
sort
of
light
on
that
I
have
about
them
about
10,
slides
or
so
that
I'm
going
to
Breeze
through
at
the
first
part
of
just
about
the
tool,
development
and
then
and
then
I
have
some
a
live
demo
of
the
tool
itself
and,
and
so
we
can
click
through
the
different
tabs
and
and
and
sort
of
do
some
demos
on
on
that,
particularly
looking
at
one
facility
on
the
Madison
Community
Center,
which
was
the
building.
M
That
was
one
of
the
12
sort
of
facilities
that
we
took
a
deep
dive
into
that's
going
to
sort
of
translate
some
of
the
priority
results
from
the
tool
into
the
forthcoming
engineering
work
for
implementation
in
that
facility.
M
So
just
showing
how
the
tools
is
informing
that
work
and
sort
of
how
those
are
are
linked
up.
So
with
that
as
a
bit
of
a
background,
I
will
move
on
to
the
next
slide,
and
so
just
just
taking
a
moment
again
to
really
look
at
what
the
goals
and
of
this
project
were,
and
we
really
wanted
to
look
at
developing
an
Energy,
Efficiency
and
decarbonization.
M
Just
prioritization
decision
support
tool
really
focusing
on
focusing
on
existing
facilities,
there's
a
lot
of
different
modeling
and
Analysis
for
a
lot
of
different
building
types.
And
so
we
really
wanted
to
focus
on
the
existing
facilities
and
really
do
this
in
a
bottom-up
approach
we
wanted
to
and
the
first
area
on
the
screen.
M
Is
we
really
wanted
to
look
at
and
assemble
the
current
data,
so
this
was
everything
from
the
facility
data
from
a
lot
of
the
energy
data
that
we
manage
in
our
energy
cap
utility
management
system,
as
well
as
pulling
30
minute
Ami
data
with
our
Advanced
metering
capabilities
and
into
pulling
that
information
into
into
this
into
this
tool.
We
also
wanted
to
use
this
as
an
opportunity
to
engage
and
collaborate
across
departments
and
really
select
12
facilities
that
were
trying
to
be
representative
of
the
county
stock.
M
So
we're
not
looking
at
on
one
particular
end
use,
but
a
variety,
and
so
we
can
begin
to
to
really
model
out
and
look
at
what
Solutions
form
decarbonization,
electrification
and
inefficiency
are
are
available.
In
existing
buildings,
we
took
a
deep
dive
into
what
efficiency
and
decarbonization
measures
that
we
could
quantify,
and
then
we
also
wanted
to
to
Really.
M
M
So
right
here
is
a
bit
of
a
process,
overflow
of
of
sort
of
the
the
four
sort
of
discrete
areas
that
you're
in
the
during
the
tool,
development
and
and
I'll
dive
into
these
a
little
bit
later.
But
this
is
sort
of
like
the
30
000
foot
snapshot
that
we
have,
and
so
this
is
we.
We
collected
data
again
we'll
go
through
all
the
data
inputs
into
the
into
the
tool,
including
the
the
Baseline
data
that
that
we
had.
M
We
did
some
contractor
and
interviews
as
part
of
this
process
to
see
contractors
sort
of
wear
their
sort
of
any
information
that
they
had
on
on
sort
of
this
initiative
and
as
well
as
as
what
measures
that
we
could
look
at.
We
also
were
very
intentional
on
what
facilities
we
looked
at
and
and
had
a
set
of
criteria
for
for
those
facilities
as
well.
M
The
third
part
is
sort
of
the
really
model
building
data
crunching,
where
we
took
all
of
the
all
of
all
the
data
that
we've
collected
the
fill
the
facilities
that
we
decided
to
to
take
a
deeper
dive
into
and
actually
worked
with,
our
Consulting
team,
which
was
Cadmus
for
this
project,
to
develop
energy
models
for
the
different
Energy,
Efficiency
and
decarbonization
measures,
apply
those
to
the
facilities
and
create
the
metrics,
and
then
the
last
piece
was
really
almost
of
all
those
different
models,
creating
sort
of
a
model
of
models
where
we
were
where
we'd
pulled
in
all
of
the
all
of
the
analytics
that
we
did
into
the
one
tool
to
really
sort
of
toggle
between
it
and
show
different,
different
metrics
for
the
for
the
upgrade
scenarios
and
and
so
and
and
then
that
sort
of
culminated
in
the
tool
that
that
will
that
will
display
a
little
bit
later
and
also
pausing
a
bit.
M
We,
you
know
when
designing
this
tool
and
sort
of
looking
at.
We
really
didn't
see
sort
of
a
out
of
the
box
solution.
So
we
really
took
a
lot
of
a
custom
approach
to
this.
If
we,
you
know,
if
we
did
something
like
Just,
Energy
audits,
energetics
typically
say
you
know,
take
the
equipment
you
have
and
make
it
more
efficient
and
that's
not
not
the
goal.
This
is.
This
really
was
looking
at.
What
are
the
best
opportunities?
Where
can
we?
Where
can
we
save
carbon?
M
Where
can
we
Electrify
what
Energy
Efficiency
measures
can
be,
bundled
with
that
and
and
so
really
I'll
try
to
have
more
of
a
creative
solution
than
energy
audits
or
like
a
technical
report
on
one
or
two
facilities
or
or
something
that
really
didn't
use
the
sort
of
the
data
from
the
counties
own
facility
stock
and
then
so,
and
so
really
we're
sort
of
intentional
and
sort
of
the
tool
design
to
meet
our
needs
so
really
quickly.
M
Just
diving
into
some
of
the
areas
that
we've
that
some
of
the
data
that
we
collected
so
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
all
these
I
think
one
of
the
areas
that
we
really
focused
on
the
most
really
was
the
Ami
data,
the
30
minute
interval
data
we
had
about
40
or
so
facilities
that
had
a
Year's
worth
of
data,
and
so
that
really
helped
us
build
out
some
really
granular
load
curves
for
each
of
the
facilities
know
what
the
building's
needs
were
and
really
help
refine
the
models
for
for
those
for
those
facilities.
M
M
I
think
we
had
a
little
less
than
15
measures
that
we
looked
at
and
identified
and
modeled,
and
so
these
models
were
all
derived
from
the
energy
saving,
algorithms
of
the
technical
resource
manual,
the
trm
for
the
Mid-Atlantic
region,
and
so
that
resource
has
a
lot
of
Utilities
in
the
region,
used
that
and
sort
of
adapt
that
for
what's
expected
for
Energy
savings,
and
so
that's
the
source
that
we
used
to
apply
to
the
energy
models.
M
We
we
worked
with
our
consultants,
and
so
if
there
were
difference
in
sort
of
like
effective,
full
load,
hours
or
items
like
that,
we
we
did
sort
of
weather
normalize
those
items
and
sort
of
make
it
appropriate
to
the
Arlington
region.
But
but
here
are
sort
of
the
big
categories,
of
course:
HVAC
HVAC
controls,
commercial
kitchen
equipment,
water,
heating
lighting
and
controls
and
weatherization.
M
M
So
moving
on
to
what
facilities
that
we
applied
after
sort
of
this
top
of
the
funnel
data
collection,
we
were
looking
at
what
facility
should
we
look
at
and
so
here's
some
of
the
criteria
that
we
looked
at
I
think
a
couple
that
were
Rel
that
are
most
relevant
are
sort
of
the
representative
of
the
population.
We
didn't
wanted
to
pick
all
old
buildings,
all
new
buildings,
all
fire
stations,
all
community
centers.
We
wanted
two
or
three
facility
types.
M
M
We
annually
Benchmark
our
facilities
and
and
Report
out
on
the
eui
and
so,
and
so
we
had
that
information
to
to
see
which
facilities
had
in
were
sort
of
lagging
in
that
metric
that
we
could
they
look
at
another
generation
was:
was
primary
equipment
nearing
the
end
of
its
useful
life,
so
facilities
that
have
end-of-life
natural
gas
equipment?
M
We
know
that
those
were
really
good
candidates
to
look
at
because
there
will
be
a
real
world
application
coming
in,
and
so
that
was
a
real
consideration
for
this
as
well,
including
the
the
dedicated
Capital
funding,
as
well
as
some
of
overlaying
to
odd
the
social
vulnerability
index,
as
well
as
overlaying
with
some
of
the
EV
charging
programs.
Just
so
we
could
see,
you
know
how
that
how
that
facility,
electricity
load
could
change
with
with
EV
planning
going
forward.
M
So
with
that
here
were
the
12
facilities
that
were
selected,
I,
think
sort
of
the
the
the
facility
end
use
in
year
year
and
square
footage
I
think
are
pretty
interesting
to
see
which
buildings
there
were
different
solutions
for
and
different
end
uses.
M
You
know
something
like
a
fire
station
is:
has
a
24
7
operation,
whereas
something
like
a
library
or
a
community
center
might
have
more
sort
of
like
traditional
business
hours,
and
so
that
would
all
impact
the
the
equipment,
loads
needed,
and-
and
so
so
these
were
the
facilities
when
we
say
the
facilities
that
were
selected
for
for
the
12,
that
that
had
the
in-depth
modeling
another
item
that
we
that
we
pulled
into
this
project
as
as
what
we're
calling
feasibility
considerations,
these
are
the
these
are
the
items
that
could
that
could
have
an
impact
on
on
electrification,
on
Energy,
Efficiency
or
or
just
items
where
we
really
needed
to
take
a
a
deeper
look
in
the
tool
has
some
more
qualitative
features
for
this.
M
M
But
we
highlighted
these
because
they're
real
to
project
implementation,
and
we
wanted
to
to
include
these,
and
some
of
these
are
implementation
order
and
dependencies
items
where
you
we
might
need
a
weatherized
facilities
if
we're,
if
we're
going
to
use
the
heat
pump,
application
and
so
we'd
need
to
have
those
Energy
Efficiency
measures
implemented
to
support
that
electrification
and,
and
so
knowing
that
that
it
needs
to
sort
of
be
a
package
deal
and
and
and
and
you
can't
sort
of
Electrify
without
those
in
it,
and
so
that's
sort
of
one
example.
M
If
we,
if
there
could
be
electrical
upgrades
that
are
that
are
needed,
recovery
time
for
some
equipment,
particularly
domestic
hot
water,
if
there
were
site-specific
constraints,
capacity
behind
the
meter
or
impact
of
Service
delivery.
So
these
are
all
items
that
we
wanted
to
sort
of
elevate
and
and
are
going
to
and
that
could
impact
projects
moving
forward.
Yeah,
so
sort
of
the
next
phase
is,
is
the
modeling
piece
and
so
really
all
the
data
that
we've
talked
about
with
sort
of
Baseline
facility
and
Ami
data.
M
The
the
detail,
information
for
the
priority
facility,
as
well
as
well
as
the
Energy
Efficiency
and
decarbonization
measures,
those
really
fed
into
the
energy
into
the
energy
model,
and
so
each
of
the
12
facilities
had
up
to
12
models
built
for
them
and
prepared,
and
so
that
used
the
the
doe
has
a
proprietary
energy
plus
model,
and
so
we
use
that
software
and
those
from
and
then
from
there.
M
You
know
we,
we
created
some
combinations
of
measures
and
different
scenarios
and
and
Quantified
the
impacts
of
those
scenarios
for
the
greenhouse
gas
impacts
for
payback
periods
and
just
and
impacts
to
energy
and
and
cost,
and
so
that's
sort
of
the
flow
of
the
data
that
we've
collected
through
the
modeling
process
and
and
the
metrics
that
we
are
displaying.
M
So
once
these
models
were
created,
we,
these
were
all
assembled
in
a
interactive
tool,
and
so,
as
I
mentioned,
all
of
those
models
that
were
created
in
energy
plus
are
the
foundational
information
for
the
interactive
power
bi
tool,
and
that
has
information
on
cost
and
energy
and
greenhouse
gas
impacts
for
each
of
the
models.
We
also
highlighted
the
feasibility
considerations
that
would
impact
implementation
that
need
to
be
considered
during
the
the
more
in-depth
design
and
Engineering
Process
we
displayed
these.
M
We
would
display
the
results
for
each
building
and
in
each
of
the
different
scenarios
and
have
a
host
of
metrics
that
include
ghg
impacts
on
annual
energy
use
and
impacts,
equipment,
costs,
payback
periods
among
others,
and
then
I
can
sort
of
show
those
in
the
tool
and
how
those
were
were
Quantified
and
displayed,
and
then,
lastly,
we,
you
know
all
of
those
scenarios.
M
You
know
we
could
use
this
to
for
decision
making
and
to
help
create
sort
of
different
scenarios,
and
so
if
we
wanted
to
look
at
all
measures
that
were
cost
effective
or
we
wanted
to
compare
measures
that
had
the
Le
that
had
the
highest
greenhouse
gas
savings,
we
could
do
that
with
the
tool
and
and
and
all
of
those
impacts
are
available.
And
we
can
sort
of
toggle
toggle,
those
and
the
and
the
different
measures
that
were
that
are
available.
A
Yeah,
mindful
of
time
and
I,
know
that
you
had
the
demonstration
and
I'm
sure
there's
going.
K
D
M
We
haven't
Quantified
because
they
are
very
sort
of
site
specific,
but
we
wanted
to
elevate
those
to
know
that
they
will
impact
projects
and
then,
lastly,
this
is
the
last
slide-
is
that
you
know
overall,
the
tool
provides
the
different
scenarios
with
the
planning
level
outcomes
for
the
key
metrics
a
work.
We
work
very
closely
that
we,
as
in
the
air
team,
work
very
closely
with
FMB
on
the
priority
measures
and
how
these
priority
measures
then
translate
into
the
engineer
and
design
work.
M
Medicine,
Community,
Center
and
Quincy.
3
are
the
first
facilities
where
the
outputs
from
the
tool
are
going
to
be
integrated
in
the
so
and
the
sow
for
that.
We
also
intentionally
built
a
tool
in
power
bi,
so
we
could
have
some
capabilities
to
enhance
in
the
in
the
future
to
include
some
human
V
aspects.
M
If
there's
updates
to
key
down
data
inputs,
we
could
do
that
and
also
add
new
facilities
as
needed.
So
this
is
all
I
have
for
the
presentation
piece,
so
I'll
pause
and
pull
up
the
tool
itself
and
and
can
field
any
questions.
If
folks
have
any
any
specific
questions
on
on
the
presentation
so
far,.
M
So
we
are
measuring
greenhouse
gas
Emissions
on
the
on
the
we're
applying
the
emissions
factor
for
the
for
the
annual
savings
and
so
we're
using
the
sort
of
current
year
factor
for
for
both
of
the
fuel
types.
A
M
So
right
now
we
focused
on
annual
and
lifetime
ghg
savings
are,
are
one
of
the
enhancements
that
we
have
to
look
at
that,
and
then
you
know
just
projecting
forward
the
greenhouse
gas
savings.
Yes,
would
would
increase
with
that
with,
with
with
the
grid
going
with
the
grid
being
cleaner.
B
I
Yeah
my
understanding
is,
there
is
no
more.
D
D
I
If
that's
not
the
case,
I
think
it's
pretty
close
yeah
and
so
yeah
right.
So
would
it
be
the
case
that
that
the
the
grid
would
seem
the
the
grid
is,
is
not
going
to
seem
more.
L
A
Mean
you're
seeing
a
steady
drop
in
the
greenhouse
gas
emissions
spread
as
they've
replaced
gastric
coal
right
so
so
that
that's
almost
all
of
the
drivers
and
reductions
increase
those
gas.
A
So
far
with
that
in
terms
of
reducing
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
so
if
we're
getting
into
carbon
neutrality,
yeah
and
we're
seeing
gradual
increases,
increased
Renewables
right
right
now.
This
is
a
another
discussion,
because
it's
a
deeper
one
right
now.
The
grid-
and
these
are
rough
numbers-
is
considered
to
be
for
Dominion,
approximately
43
percent
clean
energy,
but
out
of
that
Renewables,
wind
and
solar
only
account
for.
A
I
So
I
I
remember
my
train
of
thoughts,
which
is
that,
if
the
grid
right
now
is
has
minimal
coal
whatsoever
is
most
is
mostly
natural
gas
with
sun
Renewables
on
it.
Even
if
it's
nuclear
right,
then
how,
then,
how?
How
can
natural
gas
appear
cleaner
than
an
energy
mix?
That
is
mostly
natural
gas,
but
with
zero
emissions
mixed
in
that?
That
makes
sense.
B
B
A
Adjust
yeah
and
we
have
had
developers,
come
in
and
say:
well
we
looked
at
compared
to
the
equivalent
gas
and
electric
systems
and
decided
that
the
greenhouse
gas
emissions
is
lower
from
gas
and
it's
all
backward
looking
as
opposed
to
yeah,
but
the
grids
the
grid
can
get
cleaner.
If
you
use
gas,
it's
gas
when.
D
G
A
But
I
should
look
at
the
life
cycle,
greenhouse
gas
emissions
forward
in
terms
of
what
the
grid
is
I'm
getting
into
your
airspace.
So
I
don't
want
to
do
it
too
much,
but
it
would
seem
to
me
that
if
we're
going
to
project
forward
or
the
impact
of
the
life
cycle
of
the
equipment
or
the
system
or
whatever,
we
would
have
to
do,
scenarios
I'm
not
talking
about
12
different
scenarios,
but
I
think
you
would
have
to
do
scenario.
A
G
A
L
B
F
Interrupt
I
was.
F
If
things
like
grants
and
tax
credits
or
clean
energy
and
electrification
were
taken
into
consideration
in
the
in
the
cost
segment
or
how
that's
accounted
for
since
that
would
not
be
money
in
hand.
But
it's
available
and
could.
A
L
A
B
A
Are
right
now
in
the
county,
attorney's
office
and
DMF,
because
what
they
did
without
getting
too
wonky
lawyered
a
lawyer
is
that
when
they
allowed
local
jurisdictions
who
are
in
you
know,
historically
not
tax
exempt
entities
to
be
able
to
take
that
tax
credit?
They
shifted
the
quote-unquote
risk
and
liability
and
I
didn't
get
a
really
detailed
description
of
what's
at
how
they
were
defining
that.
D
A
M
Yeah
and
and
to
the
point
that
the
the
tool
was
designed
to
to
be
flexible
for
items
like
you
know
the
IRA
tax
credits
that
weren't
around
when
the
Tool
started
and
so
yeah.
So
as
we
look
to
enhance
the
tool
and
include
things
like
life
cycle,
ghgs
and
and
and
refine
cost
inputs,
you
know
it
was
designed
to
be
able
to
be
updated
to
to
meet
sort
of
the
where
sort
of
the
the
costs
are
today
and
and
so
yeah.
M
So
that's
sort
of
another
item
is
you
know
one
of
the
key
data
inputs?
Is
you
know,
sort
of
if,
if
and
how
that
you
know
the
tax
credits
get
get
updated,
but
that
was
sort
of
flexible.
Knowing
that
there
could
be.
You
know,
policy
changes
you
know
such
as
that
that
would
impact
the
cost
effectiveness.
D
K
I
just
wanted
I
wanted
to
ask
and
skip
over
in
a
sense
out
of
the
tool
works
and
ask
about
how
to
use
in
the
sense
of
tool
gives
you
information
on
costs.
Gases
impacts,
as
you
can
subscribe
here.
Well,
what
is
the
metric
the
brains
and
then
determines
the
decision
you
make
on
which
approach
example
of
an
HVAC
system
and.
K
A
A
Would
be
all
electric
unless
there
was
you
know
unless
the
board
was
presented
with
reasons
as
to
why
it
wasn't
being
electric,
so
I
would
think
that
there
should
have
to
be
at
least
one
scenario
of
choice
that
would
meet
that
criteria,
and
then
it
would
be
to
demonstrate
why
that
choice
is
not
an
optimal,
is
not
the
best
one.
Looking
for
going
forward
and.
D
M
Yeah
and
I
think
sort
of
and
I
think
I
sort
of
jotted
down
a
few
notes
from
from
the
first
question,
but
shown
to
your
question
I
think
there
were
just
a
handful
of
natural
gas
measures
that
were
Quantified
in
here
and
every
building
had
at
least
one
electric
HVAC
and
then
so,
and
so
there's
no
facility
that
doesn't
have
any
sort
of
electric,
all
electric
or
mostly
electric,
with
maybe
gas,
backup,
type
of
type
of
situation
and
and
so
the
real.
M
The
focus
was
really
looking
at
electrified
options
for
or
HVAC
domestic
water,
heating
and
and
some
cooking
applications.
And
then
so
the
tool
did
sort
of
bring
those
sort
of
options
to
the
you
know
to
the
table
and
as
far
as
sort
of
like
the
magic
metric,
I
think
that
sort
of
varies
by
building
and
scenario
and
I
think
that
the
one
of
the
you
know,
benefits
from
the
tool
is
to
see
the
relative
impact
and
relative
cost
of
these
potential
upgrades.
M
And-
and
so
you
know
that
that
may
vary.
But
there's
been
some
measures
that
have
you
know
it's
over
a
thousand
dollars,
for
you
know
per
ton
of
carbon,
you
know
abated
and
you
know
versus
something.
M
That's
you
know
much
more
and
and
much
more
sort
of
cost
effective
to
do,
and
so
I
think
that
the
tool
helped
to
identify
sort
of
those
those
measures
where
there
could
be
higher
cost
and
lower
and
and
lower
savings
and
and
so
and
again,
I
think
that
those
varied
by
facility,
but
it
but
it
sort
of
helped
to
to
to
show
sort
of
what
what
measures
and
what
bundles
of
measures
could
really
sort
of
move.
The
needle
for
for
energy
and
carbon
savings.
E
M
E
J
D
J
J
M
D
M
A
D
E
A
L
D
D
G
R
L
M
L
E
J
Right
right,
there.
M
All
right,
all
right,
I
will
toggle
back
to
that
and
apologies
for
that.
G
D
M
Okay,
so
this
is
just
the
screenshot
of
the
tool,
and
so
this
is
I'm
on
on
the
left
side,
you
can
see
the
difference.
The
different
aspects
of
the
tool
and
and
all
the
different
data
visualizations
that
are
pulled
in
with
the
overview
tab
is
just
a
quick
overview
of
it
and
then
sort
of
a
recap
of
a
very
high
level
of
you
know
the
items
that
we
talked
about.
We
have
all
of
our
facilities
pulled
in
and
have
a
list
of
that
we
have.
M
M
Building
result
is
really
where
a
lot
of
the
tool
pieces
are,
and
so
each
of
the
you
know
the
First
Column
is
the
different
type
of
equipment,
and
so,
as
you
can
see,
there's
on
here,
there's
here
is
for
the
equipment,
Bureau,
and
so
these
are
the
12
different
scenarios
that
were
created,
and
so
some
might
be
specific
measures,
for
here
is
what
the
electric
Bay
heaters.
M
You
know,
here's
what
the
consumption
is,
here's
what
the
savings
would
be
here
would
be
the
impact,
each
fuel
type,
the
annual
greenhouse
gas
savings
and-
and
so
those
are
all
displayed
in
this
tool,
and
then
you
can,
you
know,
compare
and
filter
down
on
these
different
items
as
well,
and
so
this
is
really
where
a
lot
of
the
outputs
of
the
tool
are.
M
The
feasibility
considerations
right
here
on
most
of
these.
These
are
do
not
aren't
Quantified
because
they
are
so
facility
specific,
but
it
does
essentially
flag,
but
you
know
potential
future
analysis.
That's
needed
for
these
during
the
design
and
Engineering
phase.
M
So
items
like
the
electrical
panel
upgrade
if
there's
recovery
times
for
R22,
that's
particular
that's
a
refrigerant
that
was
phased
off
for
air
conditioners,
and
so,
if
we
have
a
facility
that
has
that
it
might
be
a
priority
to
to
to
replace
that
equipment
from
a
from
an
o
m
cost
standpoint,
if
there's
going
to
be
Service
delivery
and
packs
o
m
and
Pax
space
constraints,
so
these
are
all
just
here
to
as
sort
of
more
qualitative
at
this
point,
because
but
items
that
will
have
impacts
to
the
to
the
project,
the
the
other
set
is.
M
Is
it
drop
down
with
the
12
facilities
that
we
did
the
Deep
energy
model
work
on?
We
have
different
cost
scenarios
for
gas
electric
and
then
equipment
scenarios
and
again
here's
sort
of
like
where
we
can
build
in
you
know
in
the
future
of
like
this
is
an
eligible
Ira,
so
we
could
take
off.
So
we
could
include
that
yeah
so
these,
so
these
are
the
top
toggles
that
really
can
impact
sort
of
the
different
cost
for
the
for
the
equipment.
M
And
then
you
know
for
the
different
scenarios
at
at
the
bottom
here
and,
and
so
that
is
so,
that's
sort
of
a
high
level
overview
of
this
tab.
The
energy
modeling
tab
is
a
different
visualization
of
this,
so
you
can
select
multiple
multiple
measures
and
it'll
build
out
the
savings.
M
If
there
are
sort
of
increases
in
electric
use
but
decreases
in
in
gas
use,
you
can,
you
can
see
that
and
it
sort
of
builds
out
in
a
stacked
bar
chart
for
that
item
as
well,
for
these
different
measures,
and
so
really
you
know
a
lot
of
the
work
is
evaluating
these
measure,
outputs
and
and
having
these
measure,
outputs,
inform
the
engineering
and
design
work,
and
you
know,
for
example,
for
the
Madison
Community
Center.
M
There
were
six
measures
from
the
tool
that
were
identified
that
are
going
forward
for
the
for
for
that
design,
work
and
then
and
coordinating
with
FNB.
So
those
are
written
to
the
scope,
and
so
the
solution
will
be
the
the
out
on
the
solutions
for
the
design.
Work
will
be
based
on
the
the
scenario
outputs
of
of
from
the
tool.
M
So
that's
you
know,
sort
of
the
the
translation
model
from
this
from
the
tool
and
this
tab
to
to
the
actual
future
design
of
the
facility
and
the
and
the
equipment
to
to
to
design
and
as
as
the
solution
going
forward.
What.
M
So
the
six
are
ductless
mini
splits,
installation
upgrades
interior
lighting,
a
vrf
system,
Windows
upgrades
and
a
smart
thermostat
or
a
BAS
system.
K
N
A
K
L
A
K
D
A
L
A
A
D
M
M
But
we
want
it
to
signify
that
you
know
if
there
was,
if
evse
planned
for
either
Fleet
or
Community
use
and
that's
metered
with
the
facility
that
will
have
impacts
to
the
electricity
load
curve
and
potential
upgrades
to
the
system,
and
so
just
having
that
as
a
feasibility
consideration,
but
but
yeah
the
blank
was
just
if
there
hasn't
been
a
sort
of
a
a
level
of
scenario.
That's
that's
indicated
and
and
I
think
to
to
the
to
the
previous
question.
M
Sort
of
another
piece
is
that
there
are
some
facilities
that
have
that
do
have
the
same
equipment
type
that
are
compared,
and
so
it
does
do
so.
It
does
have
that
functionality
for
specific
facilities
where
it
is,
you
know
there
could
be
multiple
applications
for
measures,
and
so
here's
the
relative
costs
and
benefits
between
the
same
measure
or
it
could
be
used
in
sort
of
the
this
scenario
where
it's
like.
M
This
is
more
of
a
bundling
where
there's
you
know,
additional
measures
that
are
being
combined
for
the
for
the
project
and
then
for
the
carbon
and
and
Energy
savings.
J
Stephen,
if
I
heard
you
right,
you
said
that
you
use
this
tool
to
persuade
the
FNB,
which
is
facilities
and
buildings
I'm,
guessing
to
agree
to
put
in
all
new
windows
the
whole
Madison
Center.
M
But
we,
but
the
tool
indicated
that
there
are
significant
enough
savings
relative
to
the
planning
level
cost
that
we
should
evaluate
some
window
measures
and
so
whether
I
I
don't
believe
it's
going
to
be
all
all
new
window
replacement,
but
it
could
be
some
reglazing
on
particular
windows
or
looking
at
which
windows
are
in
the
worst
shape
and
and
and
correcting
the
the
sort
of
the
issue
of
the
air
intrusion
issue
there
and
so
I
think
that
that's
sort
of
the
you
know
the
tool
said
this
is
a
potential
viable
measure
and
area
of
savings
and
and
let's,
let's
evaluate
that
through
the
design
process
going
forward.
G
M
So
the
tool
has
been
helpful
like
and
in
particularly
why
an
equipment
Bureau
is
up.
There
was
a
lighting
project
in
there
that
had
a
really
quick
payback
FMB
was
doing
work
there,
and
so
they
said
you
know,
we
said
hey
this.
You
know
scoop
this
measure
in
into
this
existing
work.
M
There's
you
know
it
has
a
payback
and
so
that's
sort
of
another
function
of
the
tool
as
there
are,
you
know
identifying
those
those
options
as
far
as
APS,
we
have
quarterly
working
group
meetings
around
energy
management
and
and
I
think
that
the
tool
or
two
cool
projects
have
been
covered
for
the
last,
at
least
here,
and
so
we've
sort
of
shown
sort
of
our
path
forward
on
how
we're
on
how
we're,
looking
at
decarbonization
and
electrification
in
existing
buildings
and
have
sort
of
demonstrated
demonstrated
that
for
for
APF
Stephen.
M
D
M
And
so
I
think,
as
far
as
working
with
audits,
I
think
one
yeah
I
think
some
of
the
I
think
energy
audits
would
sort
of
show
where
there
are
opportunities
for
Energy
savings.
I,
think
we're
energy
and,
and
so
I
think
that
that
information
could
could
be
helpful
in
here
and
identifying.
You
know
where
there
are
potential
opportunities,
I
think
that
the
tool,
as
you
know,
looked
at
a
diff,
you
know
look
at
looked
at
different
opportunities.
M
You
know
beyond
sort
of
what
what
sort
of
currently
there
I
think
that
that
this
tool
really
expanded
the
The
Horizon
a
bit
over
traditional
energy
audits
to
say:
hey
just
just
be
just
because
the
equipment
is
there.
Now
we
don't
think
we
just
need
a
more
efficient
one
and
and
that
and
and
so
that
sort
of
I
think
that
so
that
sort
of
I
think
one
benefit
of
this
I.
M
Think
energy
audits
are
great,
and
and
and
and
really
a
good
source
of
data,
but
I
think
that
there
sort
of
need
to
be
that
additional
step
to
sort
of
look
at
what
additional
sort
of
opportunities
to
to
change
sort
of
key
measures
are
are
available.
Going
forward
and
I.
Think
that
that's
sort
of
one
thing
that
that
the
tool
does
well
through
its
energy,
modeling
and
and
I
think
that
you
just
have
to
be
very
sort
of
I'm
very
sort
of
delivered
about.
A
P
M
M
Yeah
so
there's
yeah,
and
so
you
can,
you
know,
sort
of
of
the
12.
If
you
are,
you
know,
if
there's
going
to
be
sort
of,
say,
six
that
that
are
going
to
you
know
be
implemented,
you
can
select
those
six
and
then
it'll
show
you
the
the
Energy
savings,
the
the
impact
of
Baseline
sort
of
what
the
facility
is
today.
M
What
those
you
know,
percent
savings
would
be,
and
and
so
yeah
that
information
is
is
available
on
both
for
filtering
the
priority
building
results
tab
as
well
as
the
energy
modeling
tab.
The
energy
modeling
tab
is
strictly
the
energy,
whereas
here's
where
the
greenhouse
gas
emissions
are
on
on
this
tap.
But
yeah,
there's
ways
to
you
know
quantify
those
Savings
of
the
project
for
the
bundled
measures.
A
Yeah
last
we'll
just
turn
it
over
just
for
background
is
we
usually
do
a
legislative
priority
letter
to
the
County
Board,
which
we
will.
A
In
in
September,
but
as
they're
getting
ready
to
quit,
but
we
would
like
to
start
talking
about
it
earlier.
D
D
D
A
G
G
Q
Q
As
you
know,
we
ask
for
all
of
our
commissions
to
provide
some
ideas
for
legislative
priorities
up
before
the
legislative
session
in
Richmond
every
year.
This
upcoming
January.
We
have
a
long
session,
which
means
we
have
no
bill
limits
for
patrons.
We
also
will
have
a
new
two-year
budget
to
discuss.
Q
There
will
also
be,
as
you
mentioned,
elections
happening,
so
we
don't
really
know
who's
going
to
control
the
house
or
who's
going
to
control
the
Senate.
We
know
that
the
governor
is
going
to
remain
as
Glenn
yonkin.
There
are
lots
of
theories
happening
about
who's
going
to
take
control
of
which
House
and
Senate
because
they
have
new
maps
this
year
related
to
redistricting.
So
if
you
look
at
just
the
maps
bone,
the
house
leans
slightly
Democrat
the
Senate
leans
slightly
Republican.
Right
now
the
Senate
is
controlled.
Q
By
democrats,
the
house
is
controlled
by
Republicans,
so
it's
very
possible
that
you
see
both
house
flip.
One
house
flip
the
Senate
flip
the
Senate,
not
flip,
so
we're
still
kind
of
trying
to
figure
out
what
that
means.
We
did,
unfortunately,
in
the
primaries
lose
a
lot
of
our
Northern
Virginia
Appropriations
members.
We
had
Senator
George
Barker
Was
Defeated
Senator
chap
Peterson
Was
Defeated,
so
we
had
some
big
stalwarts
of
the
Appropriations
Committee
and
environmental
friends,
and
many
of
them
have
now
left
will
not
be
re-elected
to
the
general
Senate
assembly.
Q
So
we
have
lost
some
of
that
seniority
and
Leadership.
So
that's
kind
of
the
lay
of
the
land
we're
still
going
to
have
Senator
favola
and
Senator
Evan
as
our
two
senators
Senator
Howell
is
retiring
and
then
we're
also
going
to
have
Senator,
delegate,
Alfonso,
Lopez,
delegate,
Patrick
hope
and
a
new
open
see
likely
to
be
won
by
Adele
McClure.
She
is
running
unopposed
at
the
moment.
So
unless
there's
a
big,
huge
write-in
campaign,
you
can
assume
she
will
be
our
new
house
district
2
representative.
Q
Q
Probably
the
end
of
this
month,
July
into
early
August
you'll,
see
a
request
come
out
from
board
chairman
Christian
Dorsey,
asking
for
your
top
three
legislative
priorities
to
include
c2e2
is
very
good
at
getting
us
a
letter
every
year,
so
I
have
no
doubt
that
you'll
be
able
to
do
that
and
just
make
sure
you
know
same
format
as
before,
and
we
we
always
work
with
you
to
incorporate
many
of
the
priorities
into
our
legislative
package.
J
L
Q
D
Q
I,
don't
think
so.
The
that
that
is
like
unprecedented
in
Virginia
politics,
like
I,
would
never
see
them.
You
know
put
in
a
limit
to
say,
hey
we're
going
to
allow
the
governor
to
be
eight
years
or
something
like
that.
All
of
a
sudden
that
is
not
even
up
from
I've,
never
heard
of
anyone
talk
about
that
in
the
last
like
two.
L
Q
What
you're
saying
yes,
that
is
possible?
Yes,
because
when
this
is
this
budget,
that's
coming
up
is
his
profit
budget.
It's
his
time
to
make.
You
know
his
two-year
budget
when
he,
you
know
eventually
leaves
in
what
year
would
that
be
2025,
so
this
budget
will
be
crafted
for
the
2024
to
the
2026
biennium
and
he
would
be
out
of
office
in
2025.
Q
So,
theoretically,
yes,
he
would
have
that
extra
year
up
to
the
2026
budget,
and
it
would
be
up
to
the
general
assembly
in
the
year
the
2026
assembly,
to
decide
if
they
wanted
to
keep.
You
know
what
he
had
proposed
or
decide
to
change
it.
Potentially
foreign.
Q
We
have
two
more
years
of
Governor
juncken
with
his
policies
for
the
time
being.
If
we
get
a
house
and
a
senate
that
you
know
both
become
democratically
controlled,
there
may
be
some
more
pushing
of
the
envelope
happening,
but
I
would
expect
there
then
to
be
a
lot
of
Vetoes,
and
this
could
get
really
interesting.
J
To
prepare
a
menu
of
options
at
the
c2hu
might
put
into
its
letter
to
the
board
with
respect
to
legislative
priorities.
And
so
we
used
part
of
two
different
energy
committee
meetings
to
talk
about
legislative
priorities
and
one.
N
J
Energy
matters
in
Richmond,
and
so
we
have
a
list
of
I
guess,
there's
actually
14
total
possible
recommendations
that
c2e2
might
want
to
include
in
some
fashion,
in
its
letter,
I'm
kind
of
relatively
new
to
all
this
area.
But
what's
coming
home
more
and
more
to
me
as
I
learn
more
about
it
is
that
buildings
and
electrification
are
absolutely
critical
to
greenhouse
gas
emissions
in
Arlington
County
and
the
problem.
One
problem
that
we
have
compared
to
other
states
is
with
the
Dylan
rule.
J
D
J
J
Or
allowing
local
jurisdictions,
in
some
circumstances,
to
deviate
from
the
estate
mandated
building
codes,
or
can
you
speak
to
that
at
all
yeah.
Q
That's
a
that's
a
great
question,
so
we've
had
building
stretch
codes
in
our
legislative
package
for
at
least
the
past
year.
I
want
to
say
two
years.
Unfortunately,
like
you
said,
because
we
are
a
Dylan
rule
state.
We
have
to
get
Authority
for
building
stretch
codes
from
the
general
assembly
with
the
current
Administration.
There
is
no
chance
of
that
happening.
Q
Unfortunately,
we
we
would
be
supportive
of
it.
Fairfax
would
be
supportive
of
it.
Q
You
know
we
actually
have
some
sort
of
success
to
get
it
out
of
you
know
at
least
the
General
Assembly.
So
I
am
keeping
all
options
on
the
table
when
it
comes
to
putting
in
bills
like
that,
if
we
end
up
with
a
democratic,
House
and
Senate
we'll
reassess
at
that
point,
but
there's
definitely
support
from
our
entire
Arlington
delegation.
It's
more
just
trying
to
convince
members
from
the
other
party
and
from
other
parts
of
the
state.
I
Q
So
there
is
support
among
those
delegations,
but
you
have
to
remember
that
those
delegations
are
split.
They
have
a
combination
of
Republicans
and
Democrats
in
both
Richmond
and
in
you
know,
the
Hampton
Roads
region,
so
you're
going
to
see
their
legislative
packages
look
a
little
different
because
they
have
you
know
bipartisan
General,
Assembly
delegations,
so
I
can
confidently
say
that
Northern
Virginia
we're
all
Democrats
up
here
right
now,
so
our
packages
are
going
to
look
a
little
different,
so
the
Democratic
members.
Yes,
they
will
support
the
Republican
members
know
they
won't
support.
A
L
A
A
lot
of
semi
versions
underneath
may
not
go
quite
as
far
and
the
same
with
you
know,
kind
of
the
general
sense
of
what
types
of
laws
between
area
versus
we
need.
Specifically,
this
type
of
type
thing
just
to
you
know
again
not
knowing
what's
going
to
be
put
forward.
Yeah
kind
of
give
guidance
in
terms
of
what
types
of
legislation
is
most
valuable.
Q
I
always
suggest
the
broader
the
better
when
it
comes
to
our
package
right,
because
the
packages
with
the
board
will
ultimately
adopt
and
pass,
and
that
gives
me
the
most
flexibility
and
latitude
to
advocate
for
priorities
that
come
up
in
different
bills.
So,
for
example,
when
it
comes
to
electronic
meetings
right
we're
always
talking
about
making
more
flexibility
for
electronic
meetings.
Our
statement
is
very
general.
It's
just
support
broader
accessibility
to
all
virtual
public
meetings,
so
that
allows
any
of
public
meeting
Bill
to
come
up
whether
it
be
a
25
rule.
Q
You
know
a
quorum
rule,
a
whatever
combination.
You
can
think
of
I
then
have
the
ability
to
advocate
for
it
and
I,
don't
need
to.
You
know,
go
and
call
a
board
member
and
say
hey
this
sort
of
relates
to
a
priority.
Are
you
okay,
if
I
stand
up
in
support
of
this
bill?
So
I
always
say
the
broader
the
better,
because
that
gives
me
the
most
coverage
to
really
advocate
for
issues
are
that
are
important
to
you.
A
D
A
J
Well,
the
other
perennial
issue
is
the
what's
called
benchmarking,
there's
a
way
to
authorize
localities
to
require
a
commercial
buildings
of
a
certain
square
footage
to
disclose
their
annual
energy
usage
to
the
locality.
And,
of
course,
this
is
sometimes
called
like
shaming.
But
there's
a
lot
of
value
to
it.
Is
that
similar
to
the
stretch,
building
codes
that
you
know
some
people
are
for
it,
but
it's
going
to
take
a
trifecta
in
order
to
really
get
something
passed.
D
F
L
Q
A
Q
So
and
just
for
everyone's
awareness
we
are
presenting
in
November,
which
means
public
comment
will
be
at
the
November
board
meeting,
which
is
after
the
General
Assembly
Election.
So
we
should
have
some
indication
of
where
things
are
headed
and
then
they
won't
vote
on
adoption
of
the
package
until
December.
So
we
still
have
time
post-election
to
really
dive
deep
into
the
package
and
make
it
what
we
want
it
to
be.
K
Q
Q
Q
Q
Great
question
so
when
you
run
it
through
the
budget,
there's
really
like
seven
conferees
from
each
house
from
or
seven
from
the
house,
seven
from
the
Senate
that
really
decide
the
legislation,
so
you're
really
only
trying
to
influence
like
14
members
out
of
140
members
instead
of
bills
that
go
through
committees
and
have
more
of
a
public,
transparent
process
because
a
lot
of
times
members,
you
know
they
come
down
on
a
party
line
vote
they
you
know,
they
have
to.
You,
know,
vote
with
their
party
and
so
they're
gonna,
say
I'm
just
against
it.
Q
Whereas
there's
a
lot
more
wheeling
and
dealing
and
people
put
in
one
thing,
they
give
up
another.
All
of
that
sausage
making
can
even
happen
through
the
budget,
and
you
can,
you
know,
put
things
in
because
someone's
not
gonna,
you
know
hold
up
an
entire
budget
over
one.
You
know
smaller
issue
like
this,
so
you
know
Governor,
yonkin,
May,
then
try
to
you
know
say
he
won't
sign
it,
but
then
it'll
go
back
to
the
Gen
assembly
and
then
they
could,
depending
on
how
their
majority
is.
Q
They
could,
you
know,
override
his
his
veto
of
the
amendment,
so
there's
just
a
lot
of
different
touch
points
and
the
budget
can
be
a
useful
one,
sometimes,
when
you're
trying
to
kind
of
get
some
harder
things
done.
E
A
D
A
Q
You
have
funding.
Metro
is
one
of
our
biggest
funding
priorities
for
this
upcoming
year
and
I.
Think
that
touches,
as
you
mentioned,
not
just
Transportation
committees,
but
climate
and
energy.
It
touches
you
know:
Economic
Development
housing.
It
really
covers
everything
because
that's
how
people
live,
work
and
play
and
breathe
honestly
up
in
Northern,
Virginia.
E
B
D
L
A
A
Fee
for
commercial
scale
that
they
gave
Dominion
and
I
think
if
I
remember
correctly,
I
think
Fairfax
is
suing
over
that
so
I
think
on
two
levels:
I
think
to
be
honest
with
you,
we're
just
in
fact,
a
lot
of
activity
happens
actually
today
we're
looking
for
a
really
in-depth,
comprehensive
legal
and
Regulatory
assessment
of
local
government
authority
to
enter
into
Community
Choice
aggregation
that.
F
A
K
A
Jurisdiction
is
going
to
be
knocking
door
to
door
and
saying
hi.
Would
you
like
to
join
the
CCN
yeah?
There
are
things,
but
it's
a
full
back
position.
We're
also
adding
to
the
analysis,
the
scope
and
authority
of
local
governments
to
aggregate
under
retail,
Choice
aggregation
and
third-party
transactional
mechanisms
with
non-use.
G
A
A
A
The
next
month,
or
so
of
you
know,
kind
of
we
can
work
with
Doug
to
kind
of
take
some
of
the
ideas
look
at
some
of
what
we've
had
in
the
past
and
then
you
kind
of
get
that
balance
of
editing.
You
know
here's
one
of
the
key
things
along
with
enough
flexibility
for
that,
so,
okay,
we've
got
a
bunch
of
letters
to
get
through
so.
K
N
That's
correct,
yeah.
That
was
at
least
one
comment
that
came
in
that
staff
from
cphd
noted
to
me
that
essentially,
whoever
the
commenter
was
said
that
climate
change
should
be
first
and
foremost
on
the
minds
of
anybody
opening
up
the
plan,
Langston
Boulevard
plan,
and
it
should
be
upfront
and
noted
accordingly.
So
that
did
that
comment
did
come
in
also
I've
been
sitting
at
the
environmental
and
public
spaces
table
as
I've
been
going
to
these
open
houses
during
the
past
few
weeks
and
I
can
say
just
in
general.
N
The
comments
that
have
been
coming
in
have
been
surrounding
tree
canopy,
as
well
as
storm
water
and
and
energy
efficient
buildings,
and
what
the
opportunities
are
that
are
out
there.
So
it's
a
quick
way
for
me
to
summarize
what
I've
heard
so
far
and
some
of
the
questions
that
I've
reacted
to
and
for
those
of
you
who
have
taking
a
look
or
need
to
take
a
look
at
the
plan
you
can
hone
in
on
Section
3.2.3,
which
is
the
sustainability
and
resiliency
section
for
the
recommendations
and
policies
for
implementation.
N
A
Thanks
Rich
yeah,
so
you
know
again,
their
comment
period
ends
in
July
30th
today
and
talk
to
us
about
it,
but
otherwise
we'll
have
to
have
to
just
go
forward
with
what
we
've.
You
know,
I've
been
actually
tracking
the
planning
process
for
several
years
now,
since
I
actually
live
in
Cherrydale
so
and
business
c2e2
rep
for
for
a
couple
years
now
so
quickly,
I
did
get
an
email
a
few
minutes
ago
from
Jennifer
Smith
and
she.
A
A
B
D
A
D
A
To
figure
out
when
you
dig
into
the
details
and
raises
some
questions
so
people,
because,
if
you've
run
through
the
letter,
I'll
make
sure
I
think
this
and
the
transit
strategy.
These
things
all
start
time
together,
because
it's
okay,
ultimate
bigger
term
development
opportunities
in
Arlington
and
how
to
think
about
them.
From
a
perspective
of
sustainability.
D
A
A
Second,
just
the
lead
in
I
think
question
again:
do
we
want
to
be
fairly
specific
that
they
actually
need
say
a
one
major
that
captures
a
lot
of
these
elements
because
I
think
that's
what
it
means,
because
some
things
are
in
there
some
things
that.
L
A
A
R
L
A
P
Can
I
ask
one
question
since
we're
going
up
there
about
that,
we
support
vision
of
the
story
going
excuse
development
higher
buildings.
Essentially
do
we
do
and
to
mention
this
is
the
point
I
was
trying
to
make
at
the
last.
You
see
me.
I
guess,
does
accounting
factor
in
the
embedded
carbon
in
those
two-story
buildings
and
one-story
buildings,
and
are
we
that
looking
at
the
entire
life
cycle,
not
just
the
after
you
build
the
buildings
but
the
entire
life
cycle,
including
construction
and
destruction
of
the
existing
buildings?
P
Are
we
not
doing
a
positive
by
tearing
down
a
two-story
existing
building,
instead
of
reusing
that
building
as
part
of
progression
now,
admittedly,
the
property
owners?
We
had
a
little
control
over
what
they
could
do,
because
the
county
need
to
encourage
the
destruction
of
existing
infrastructure
rather
than
reuse
of
existing
infrastructure.
A
A
Density
and
the
ability
to
have
more
people
living
in
closer
areas
and
get
all
the
benefits
of
having
a
less
energy
intensive
lifestyle,
I
think
once
you
expand
it
to
other
buildings,
but.
A
A
Those
things
as
you
look
at
Langston,
Boulevard
and
Harrison
Street
or
down
at
Spot
Run,
is
it's
almost
all
parking
lot
yeah.
So
it's
kind
of
hard
to
imagine
how
they
we
use.
We
use
those
existing
buildings
and
again
the
density
and
actually
to
build
in
more
Open
Spaces,
as
part
of
it
is
let
them
go
up,
give
them
more
space
to
or
give
you
know,
have
more
open
space
trees.
K
A
But
I
think
that's
something
that
we
have
to
be
thinking
of,
because
you
know
where
we're
now
starting
to
get
projects
where
yeah
we
want
to
tear
down
this
building
and
build
in
something
that's
much
larger.
That
will
take
out
all
the
trees
and
the
Green
Space
you
know
is.
Is
that
really
you
know
given
on
multiple
levels
rather
than
the
Adaptive
reads
of
existing
buildings
and
I?
Think
I
I
try
to
I've
got
that
on
the
subject
hole
that
is,
that
is
try
to
capture
that
you.
C
So
you
you
impose
that
kind
of
tentatively
about
whether
to
include
a
statement
requesting
that
that
one
pager
as
part
of
this
document
I
haven't
seen
any
downside
to
that
and
I
think
it
might
actually
imply
a
little
bit
of
pressure
to
pour
some
thinking
along
those
lines.
Because
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
generality,
yeah.
A
Run
note
to
say
you
know
just
delete,
it
is,
like
you
know,
add
in
a
one
sentence
about
you.
A
A
A
A
A
You,
oh
just
on
on
the,
if
anybody's
got
the
Google
docup,
that
has
the
comments
on
them.
A
I
just
keep
going
when
we
get
to
like
so
that,
okay.
B
F
J
A
D
K
R
H
D
A
Got
more
traffic
there's
no
way
you
can
get
that
green,
Main,
Street
or
so,
and
I
think
we
touched
on
it
a
little
bit
further
in
terms
of.
B
Under
and
I
have
read
through
only
the
first
half.
A
E
A
Stations
right
right,
well
again,
Langston
Boulevard,
so
so
that
they
should
have
Transit
running
well,
they
their
pushes
to
get
it
every
10
minutes.
I
would
say
that
I
would
like
to
have
about
75
minute
coming
down
there
and
I
would
like
at
least
half
of
those
buses
to
be
going
outside
of
Arlington.
I
I
I,
because
so
under
traffic
mitigation,
continued
or
a
higher
volume,
traffic
or
higher
volumes
of
traffic
undermines
the
intend
to
transform
Langston
Boulevard
into
a
walkable,
bikeable,
Main
Street,
and
then
the
final
sentence
is
this:
the
plan
should
identify
a
pathway
to
making
nice
above
our
people
rather
than
car
Centric,
if,
if
it
is
a
main
vehicle
artery,
is
that
I.
D
A
A
More
on
transit,
again,
Transit:
okay,
it's
changing
habits,
so
you
know
it
may
be
a
while
and
coming.
But
you
know
they.
D
P
A
To
this
list,
what
would
it
say
I
mean
we'll
just
I
want
to
probably
want
to
turn
around,
but
I
think
we
also
need
a
notion
of
what
it
is.
So
everybody
knows
what
the
moving
on.
F
F
K
A
K
Yeah
finally,
I
got
through
this
thing
today,
I'm
just
focused
on
seeing
what
we
can
do
just
a
little
bit.
One
book.
K
K
Because
I
think
what
you
see
in
the
document
order,
they
mention
it
here
and
there
and
when
they
talk
about
any
kind
of
solution,
put
it
all
on
Adam,
canopy,
canopy
campus
issue,
and
as
we
know
it
contributes
it's
not
the
only
way
you
deal
with
it.
What
is
essentially
a
human
design
problem
how
you
design?
What
is
this
gigantic
urban
area?
Did
they
not.
K
K
K
K
A
K
K
It's
always
it's
not
as
clear
I
was
always
showing
up
somewhere
in
the
middle
of
it
yeah
it's
kind
of
random.
It
was
very
good
and,
and
it
of
course,
it's
dealing
with
those
things.
A
Yeah
and
so
you
can
yeah
and
then
I,
don't
know
that
I
did
maybe
as
much
actually
yeah
right,
yeah
I
would
get
into
it.
It's
like
yeah.
If
you
get
rid
of
it
s
faces,
you
know,
truly,
so,
let's
make
sure
and
actually
they
they
did
try
to
hide
it,
because
they
were
counting
three
hypnosis
of
surfaces,
so
they
would.
A
A
I
P
P
A
P
A
A
B
F
B
It's
in
our
letter,
I.
A
D
A
It's
not
okay.
The
not
unclear
is
unclear
Gardens
as
clinical
states
which
overstates
the
amount
of
percentage.
A
D
A
Objections:
let's
go
on
to
the
next
one
Transit
strategy.
A
I
think
that's
that's
kind
of
the
overarching
thoughts
and
again
this
they're
kind
of
doing
this
backwards
as
they're
putting
this
forward,
which
is
a
10-year
10-year
plan,
but
they
have
to
update
the
master,
Transportation
Plan
and
there's
a
decarbonization
of
Transportation
plan
underway
and
you
seems
to
be
happening.
So
you
know
the
first
any
questions
or
comments
minor.
J
Changes
the
fourth
line,
it
should
be.
D
A
That
made
in
the
graphic
changes:
okay,.
R
R
Joan,
can
you
hear
me
yes,
can
I
just
suggest
that
the
second
to
last
paragraph
be
moved
up
in
the
letter
I
think
it's
really
important
and
I'm
afraid
it
comes
too
far
down
in
the
letter.
A
A
D
J
J
A
E
A
I
kind
of
like
it
as
one
word
but
I
have
no
idea.
Okay,
I'll
make
up
one
word
as
long
as
we're
consistent
right,
yeah,
I,.
G
L
G
A
G
Do
we
want
to
feel
sorry?
Do
we
want
to
be
a
little
bit
stronger
on
the
battery
electric
bus?
Paragraph
I
mean
indicating
we
indicate
that
the
feasibility
study
hasn't
been
published.
Do
we
want
to
be
a
little
stronger
and
suggest
that
they
make
no
recommendations
or
decisions
after
that
is
done,
and
Alina
and
they're
one
of
the
other
points
I'd
make
in
the
last
it
says.
D
A
L
G
A
A
G
A
L
A
Because
since
they
brought
it
up
in
their
their
kind
of
continuing
to
promote
this
idea
that
that
electric
buses
really
just
going
to
be
more
costly,
but
it's
because
it's
like-
and
there
is
this-
that
you
know
those
that
are
really
supportive.
It's
like
we've
got
to
spend
on
Transit
electrification
is
just
a
description
and,
except
that
you
know
as
yet
I've
seen
any
real
strong
Transit
strategies
that
will
that
is
getting
people
out
of
their
cars.
Even
before
the
pandemic.
D
A
R
A
K
A
I
can
go
back
and
look
at
our
last
economic
that
we
might
have
I
mean
it's
it's
kind
of
tree
canopy.
Well,
they've
got
the
goal
of
keeper
canopy
at
40
40,
which
is
probably
less
than
40
percent,
but
you
know
they
should
be
doing
it
by
neighborhood,
particularly
targeting
those
with
low
income.
D
D
D
A
The
percentage
of
invasive
coverage-
you
know
it's
quality
of
the
water
I
mean
I,
can
go
back
and
look.
C
Part
of
the
of
this,
really
that
we
really
want
to
focus
is
the
call
for
specifics
in
an
annual
reporting
thesis
I
mean
that
seems
to
be
a
sort
of
a
disease
that
affects
most
of
the
county
claims.
Is
that
they're
they're
very
aspirational,
with
no
mention
that
there
should
be
any
report
on
Progressive,
Way
I.
C
A
Of
metrics
of
you
know
capturing
the
wildlife
changes,
how
many
bugs
they're
seeing
and
that
kind
of
stuff,
it's
very
quantitative
and
then
there's
the
other.
One
is
what
have
we
actually
done
on
these
exercises
right,
because
the
way
they've
done
it
now
is
just
they
haven't,
started
ongoing,
completed
It's
like
because
I
looked
at
them
for
the
urban
forestry
in
the
natural
resources,
Master
plans,
and
it's
like
okay,
no
clue
what
those
plans,
because
it's
just
and
that's
the
way
that
any
they're
proposing
you
know,
reporting
this
one.
A
A
Things
and
they
should
attractive
so
and
that's
yeah,
because
it's
like
well,
how
do
you
report
on
that?
Otherwise,
in
terms
I'm
going
which
one
of
the
ones
that
you
mentioned,
did
you
actually
do
what
what.
C
A
D
L
B
F
B
Draft
plan
there's
some
section
because
he
wants
to
go
to
where
it's
just
a
heading.
G
P
F
A
A
A
A
Are
considering
is
ordinance,
which
is
something
that
the
state
allows
and
basically
you're
responsible
when
it
spreads
to
your
neighbor
's
right
now,
almost
nothing
if
anything
spreads
to
your
neighbors.
It
doesn't
matter,
and
it
doesn't
matter
whether
your
neighbor
cuts
the
roots
off
of
your
tree
when
they
redevelop.
A
A
A
A
Okay,
let's
see
keep
moving
the.
A
G
A
D
A
N
A
That
actually,
the
Environmental
missions
have
been
asking
for
probably
close
to
a
decade
and
basically
what
the
problem
is.
Is
it's
really?
You
know
if
your
grass
is
over
six
six
inches
or
tall
or
adequate
with
it?
You
know
the
county,
you
know,
County
can
come
in
and
tell
you
to
cut
it
and
if
they
don't
they'll
come
and
do
it
and
charge
it.
A
B
A
Cases
the
county
has
come
in
people,
take
it
out,
so
there's
been
huge
pressure
almost.
A
L
A
Good
luck.
You
know,
why
aren't
you
changing
this
poor
guy
from
cph?
It's
like
I,
don't
know
what
you're
talking
about,
but
anyway,
you
know
what
the
agreement
they
got
out
is
that
they
would
come
and
update
the
ordinance
for
a
second
time
this
year
and
make
these
changes.
They
did
a
really
nice
job
where
we
are
so.
This
is
just
you
know.
I
was
at
the
County
Board.
N
F
G
A
B
I
get
a
point
of
clarification
in
that
first
sentence.
Is
this
an
existing
read
ordinance
that
we're
endorsing,
or
we.
A
H
D
H
F
D
A
A
A
Chance
to
look
at
some
of
the
information
that
Kerry
shared
on
the
zero
waste
plan,
we
kind
of
provided
some
informal
comments
to
the
Southwest
Bureau
of
Sarah
waste
committee,
but
it
will
go
actually
formally
out
for
public
review
and
public
comments.