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A
Commission
we'll
start
out
with
the
introductions
if
there's
anybody
in
the
public
that
would
like
to
do
public
comment.
Please
let
me
know,
let
me
start
with
Stephen.
F
She's,
replacing
Rebecca
and
so
see
two
of
ETV
is:
we've
got
a
nice
environment
background.
Yes,
I
can
expand.
E
That
a
lot
okay,
so
my
background
I
recently
graduated
with
my
Master's
in
environmental
and
sustainability
management
from
Georgetown
University
and
then
well.
During
my
time
there
I
worked
on
a
pretty
big
Capstone
project
with
Amazon
and
their
decarbonization
project
and
then
prior
to
that
I
worked
for
about
four
years
up
in
Boston
for
different
financial
services
and
accounting
and
audit
firms
in
their
marketing
departments.
Most
recently,
I
was
with
Deloitte
in
their
sustainability
climate
Equity
practice
and
built
out
that
arm
for
their
marketing
team.
B
C
H
A
B
Meeting
minutes
hi
Kevin
I
want
to
introduce
yourself
we're
just
finishing
that.
Yes,.
D
D
I
D
So
I
would
move
that
all
these
individuals
be
reappointed
for
two-year
terms
to
the
energy
committee.
A
A
A
A
A
There
were
in
this
cycle
an
additional
54
applicants,
including
ours,
because
we
had
to
reapply
or
or
lose
the
required
certification
in
the
six
years
since
they
launched
the
program
six
years
ago.
Arlington
is
one
of
the
Mason
early
communities.
They
recognized
the
usgpc
did
what
usgbc
always
does,
which
is
raise
the
bar
raise
the
bar
raise
the
bar,
so
it
was
far
more
extensive.
It
was
deeper.
A
The
criteria
that
had
to
be
met,
were
you
know,
far
more
rigorous
and
actually
out
of
all
the
applicants
only
to
county
of
organized
scored,
the
highest,
the
other
essentially
communities
or
Dayton
Ohio
Howard,
County,
Maryland
and
Santa
Monica,
and
the
county
was
recognized
at
their
opening
reception
to
the
green
build
conference
on
Wednesday,
and
today
they
were
also
Christian
dorsey's
phone
on
a
three-party
bears
panel.
A
So
everyone
is
really
happy
about
that.
They'll
be
more
press
that
goes
out
of
bounded
because
he
was
GBC.
Of
course,
also.
It
wants
to
engage
support
cards
that
they
produce
say
you
know
what
the
criteria
is
and
oh
the
ranking
yeah
the
whole
room
and
I
have
to
say
did
most
of
the
work,
but
I
was
supporting
him
I'm
working
with
them,
and
it
was
just
between
that
and
the
card
of
disclosure
project.
A
A
What
is
it
Global,
as
they
rank
a
through
G
I,
think
they
have
over
1300
members
worldwide.
Approximately
11
of
the
members
rank
a
which
is
the
highest
ranking
and
Arlington
County
is
a
month
I'm
gonna.
E
A
That
yeah
and
we're
actually
going
through
the
kind
of
we
because
the
carbon
disclosure
project
requires
you
to
report
and
get
recertified
every
single
year
that
we're
in
the
process
we've
submitted
that
up.
So
after
you
finish
one
application,
you
start
at
the
next
sorry
decided
to
finish
one
year.
You
can't
start
on
the
next
yeah.
We
were
actually
juggling
both
of
them.
At
the
same
time,
it
was
really
kind
of
exhausting
yeah,
but
for
this
carbon
exposure
it
sounds
like.
Sometimes
you
have
to
work
on
it
year
round.
A
A
I
Yeah
yeah
I
wanted
to
ask
the
group,
given
that
your
focus
is
on
environmental
if
you've
reviewed
the
environmental
impacts
and
implication
of
the
plan.
Lengths
and
Boulevard
study
the
study
that's
been
going
out
and,
and
it's
going
to
be
going
to
the
board
for
proposed
change
in
the
general
land
use
plan,
has
substantial
up
up
zoning
and
density
that
will
be
added
a
significant
adverse
impact
to
traffic
and
there's
been
no
assessment
of
the
proposed
changes
in
land
use.
I
So
if
there's
any
group
in
Arlington
that
should
be
revealing
and
and
requiring
the
staff
to
assess
the
environmental
impacts,
be
it
human
impacts,
noise,
air
quality,
runoff
storm
water
impact
and
safety
to
individuals
for
walking,
there's
not
going
to
be
parking
for
the
density
being
added
folks
are
going
to
have
to
walk
six
eight
ten
blocks
to
try
to
find
parking
to
walk
to
their
neighbor
within
a
neighborhood
to
either
park
in
front
of
their
house
or
or
an
apartment
building,
they'll
be
built
of
significantly
adverse,
adversely
impact
safety,
especially
people
are
walking
at
night
in
dark.
I
We
know.
There's
crime
people
have
been
murdered,
walking
to
their
cars
at
night,
they've
been
Fallen
prey
for
people
walking
alone,
so
there's
there's
significant
adverse
impacts
with
what's
being
proposed,
there's
been
no
consideration
of
parking.
The
staff
did
a
rudimentary
back
at
the
envelope.
Analysis
on
traffic
and
there'll
be
severe
congestion
and
they're,
proposing
to
take
a
lane
away
on
one
of
the
only
East-West
truck
routes
in
the
in
Arlington
County
in
Northern
Virginia.
It's
and
it's
an
emergency
evacuation
route.
I
It
plays
a
role
for
Safety
and
Security
for
the
country
as
well
as
evacuation,
the
D.C
and
and
the
staff
is
given
no
consideration.
The
plan
that's
been
released
and
that's
been
circulated
makes
no
mention
of
the
severe
congestion
where
substantial
different
tools
have
to
be
used
to
analyze
the
impacts
of
safety.
They
haven't
used
the
right
tools.
The
delays
will
be
significant
to
decrease
safety
as
a
result,
increase
emissions
and
you're.
It's
interesting,
you're
talking
about
carbon
emissions
and
nobody's
batting
an
eye
at
the
lack
of
analysis.
I
That's
been
going
into
something
substantial
with
the
up
zoning
that's
being
proposed.
I
So
if
you
haven't
reviewed
it
I
think
you've
made
the
look
at
the
environmental
assessment
that
that
Hazard
hasn't
been
done
with
with
the
plant
lakes
and
Boulevard
study,
send
a
message
as
a
chair
to
the
board
the
Arlington
County
Board
not
to
accept
and
make
any
changes
the
general
land
use
plan
unless
that
assessment
has
been
done
to
us
to
determine
what
the
impacts
are
going
to
be
on
the
community
and
require
two
of
the
five
areas
to
be
included
in
the
study
before
any
changes
are
made
to
the
general
land
use
plan
right
now,
only
three
of
the
five
areas
are
being
studied
and
and
no
impacts
have
been
done
and
they
want
to
change
to
the
general
land
use
plan
for
the
county.
A
A
B
A
At
a
little
bit
of
the
technical
report,
some
of
the
discussion
that
the
sharing
of
ideas
that
we
did
in
advance
right
there
is
not
a
presentation
on
the
full
study
for
tonight.
It
has
been.
We
have
done
a
debriefing
with
accounting
manager's
office.
He
asked
for
additional
questions.
We
went
back
and
provided
information,
and
it's
sticking
point
now
with
socializing.
A
It
publicly
is
that
we
haven't
had
the
opportunity
yet
if
that
obviously
is
kind
of
backwards,
so
my
understanding
is-
or
it's
got
a
lot
going
on
right
now
too,
but
within
the
next
two
to
three
weeks,
we're
hoping
to
have
all
of
the
two
values
set
up.
So
you
would
have
the
ability
to
come
back
with
presentation
and
that
would
provide
the
basis
for
a
more
fulsome
analysis
of
discussion
in
October.
A
There's
a
couple
of
scenarios
going
on
with
that
so
and
that's
all
I
can
say
right
now.
Is
that
they're
looking
at
a
couple
of
scenario
on
the
buses?
Okay,
because
they
they're
purchasing
580
years,
586,
688
or
588
yeah,
so
that
that
should
be
the
Baseline
of
comparing
Institute
clock
analysis
as
well
as
the
hearing
again
I
kind
of
don't
want
to
get
on
ahead,
because
you
know
obviously
with
that
there's
kind
of
ancillary
interfacing,
and
you
know
co-sensitive
issues
that
go
into
that.
A
So
again,
that
will
will
be
able
to
have
a
more
comprehensive
panoramic
discussion,
a
little
tick
into
account,
all
the
all
the
details:
okay,
okay,
any
idea
of
I
assume
you're
not
going
to
want
to
tell
us
anything
in
terms
of
timeline
for
purchasing.
My
understanding
is
their
consideration
of
accelerating
the
purchase
on
the
hydrogen
buses.
A
Or
do
an
indents
find
it
at
least
get
some
sense
of
how
the
analysis
done
in
the
technical
report
translated
into
the
and
I
can't
figure
out
how
to
get
the
numbers
to,
because
you
know,
there's
not
enough
information
on
how
the
math
is
done
to
go
from
original,
batting
capacity.
Usable
battery
capacity
in
miles
on
the
coldest
day
imaginable,
if
you
would
like
I,
could
put
a
placeholder
that
assuming
we're
going
to
be
able
to
come
back
with
a
presentation
we
can
bring.
A
A
A
Is
yeah
I
really
like
numbers
to
add
up
just
something
about
that?
Maybe
my
analytical
well,
are
you
saying
that
the
numbers
didn't
end
up
or
it's
difficult
to
see?
What
was
the
methodology
to
get
to
the
numbers?
I
just
want
to
be
clear:
I
could
I
I
looked
at
the
assumptions
that
you
made
in
terms
of
the
Justice,
making
the
adjustments
from
nominal
battery
capability
to
you
know
actual
you
know
usable
capability,
and
then
they
had
some
numbers
of
on
a
cold
winter
day.
A
A
You
know
multiply
this
by
this
by
this
and
then
divide
everything
by
by
three
point,
something
or
other
to
get
a
number
and
and
then
again
there's
nothing
in
the
technical
report
that
ever
says
how
much
is
the
maximum
range
for
the
two
bus
batteries
they
looked
at
and
my
main
is
like:
okay,
you've
got
that
you've
got
different
buses,
so
can
I
apply
that
methodology
and
I
I
couldn't
make
it
work
so
there's
either
something
that
wasn't
identified
in
the
in
the
in
the
assumptions
and
and
again
these
numbers
keep
changing,
but
then
the
other
one
was
on
the
ground.
A
Pairing
is
is
that
they
only
did
Route
appearing
based
on
55
buses,
and
we
know
that
there's
78
buses
in
the
street
and
even
taking
into
account
the
20
is
in
reserved
you've
still
got
so.
How
are
those
accounted
before
and
don't
they
don't?
They
have
a
chance
plus
if
there
should
be
an
opportunity
for
Midday
charging,
or
at
least
some
of
those
buses
yeah.
Okay,
I've
chopped
enough.
A
How
about
opening
up
this
to
others
in
terms
of
any
impressions
of
looking
at
it,
I
think
Elizabeth,
yeah,
I
I
emailed
a
couple
of
my
concerns
to
the
group,
but
just
to
make
sure
it's
on
the
record.
A
K
A
Jonas,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
the
sort
of
Baseline
calculations
were
made
with
a
smaller
capacity
battery
than
we
would
buy
going
forward
and
then
those
assumptions
just
get
kind
of
get
baked
into
the
rest
of
the
analysis
all
the
way
through,
and
then
it
just
sort
of
just
sort
of
pile
on
that.
Oh,
we
would
need
more
facilities
and
more
parking
space.
You
know
so
I
think
it's
really
important
to
get
that
piece
right
to
figure
out.
A
You
know
if
there
is
something
other
than
a
one-to-one
ratio
it,
it
does
become
really
important
to
figure
that
out
before
a
decision
is
made.
The
other
thing
that
I
was
pretty
concerned
about
was
the
idea
of
instructing
a
natural
gas
plan
to
provide
capacity
to
charge
the
buses
in
in
an
outage
situation.
A
I
didn't
I,
didn't
actually
see
much
analysis
of
that
decision
at
all,
I'm
sure
it's
somewhere
I'm
sure
somebody
did
that
now,
but
I
would
like
to
see
if
they
considered
all
the
tax
credits
that
were
available
through
the
inflation
reduction
act
and
opportunities
through
the
infrastructure
bill
to
make
Standalone
storage
much
more
affordable.
A
A
I
also
didn't
see
anywhere
any
kind
of
analysis
of
the
sort
of
secondary
or
tertiary
benefits
of
having
a
fleet
of
battery
electric
buses
and
what
that
might
do
for
grid
resilience
and
reliability
overall
for
the
county.
Actually,
just
you're
talking
about
vehicle
to
grid
yeah
vehicle
to
grid
actually
doesn't
work
with
Metro
Transit
buses
as
a
rule
of
thumb,
because
they
basically
they're
running
all
the
day,
run
all
the
time.
A
You
know,
in
you
know
extreme
weather,
where
we
might
have
to
make
a
decision
between
an
emergency,
shelter
and
running
all
the
bus
routes,
certainly
having
a
fleet
of
battery
electric
buses
might
come
in
Andy.
So
just
some
additional
thoughts.
Consider
I
just
didn't
know
that,
and
this
is
going
to
be
coming
up
soon
as
well.
Is
that
the
energy
Assurance
plan.
C
A
Covers
kind
of
hubs,
resiliency
hubs
and
measures
for
inoperability
or
complete
Interruption
of
the
grid
for
at
least
three
days
and
Rich
Julie
did
an
exceptional
job
on
that
plan,
so
that
is
going
to
be
coming
up
so
that
crosses
over
I
mean
nothing.
As
you
know,.
K
A
Exists
in
a
vacuum
right,
the
only
thing-
and
just
you
know,
be
ready
to
to
have
those
questions
and
hear
some
kind
of
answers
that
the
more
battery
storage
that
we
put
you
know
in
Arlington
space
is
always
just
a
you
know:
Eternal
Quest,
the
more
battery
storage
that
we
put
out
of
space
for
more
infrastructure
that
we
have
to
put
out
of
space.
The
larger
the
battery,
obviously
you're,
going
to
have
to
have
more
charging
space
is
so
constrained
to
the
bad
infrastructure,
starts
competing
with
the
parking
spaces
for
the
buses.
A
So
when
they
say
that
there's
a
saturation
point
at
which
you
have
to
start
really
looking
for
additional
space,
I
think
that
additional
space
is
inevitable
in
the
future.
If
you
know
more
and
more
people
as
we
would
like
them
to
start
adopting,
multimodalism
and
public
transportation
more.
A
I
think
it's
between
17
and
19
million
dollars
that
we
have
to
pay
Dominion
to
put
in
the
additional
infrastructure
to
handle
the
Grid
on
the
lower
size
batteries,
so
we're
all
living
dealing
with
them
on
upgrading
that,
because
I
wouldn't
expect
the
grid
to
have
been
sitting
around
with
that
kind
of
excess
capacity,
but
we
we
have,
we
have
to
put
in
additional
infrastructure
if
you
want
to
put
into
this
passenger
vehicle.
Some
someone
needs
to
procure
that
County
or
Dominion
I
guess.
A
For
me,
my
bottom
line
would
be
if
this
plan
goes
forward,
including
a
recommendation
to
construct
a
natural
gas
generation
facility.
I
I
think
there's
no
way
that
we
can
possibly
that's
separate,
and,
apart
from
the
Alm,
app
and
again
just
really
quickly.
That
is
really
the
solid
waste
master
plan.
That's
next
phase
of
it.
It's
going
to
the
water
pollution
treatment
plant
and
actually,
that
is
in
terms
of
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
A
It's
an
improvement
over
what
happens
now,
because
there's
enormous
leakage
in
the
way
that
bio
wastes
are
delivered
until
that
right
now,
so
they're
upgrading
that
facility
to
have
a
closed
system
to
that
system
that
that
capacity
will
also
eliminate
substantially
almost
entirely
the
methane
flavors
that
they
have
to
let
off
to
okay.
So
that's
what's
happening
anyway,
and
it
can
be
used
either
to
fuel
buses
or
can
just
go
and
be
alignment
meter
into
the
pipeline.
So
the
the
natural
gas
facility
that's
referenced
in
the
art
feasibility
study.
A
That
has
other
applications
that
wouldn't
be
constructed
exclusively
for
this
purpose.
Okay,
yeah
you're,
talking
about
the
RNG
excuse
me
yeah,
greater
question
on
that
is
we're
going
to
be
producing
Orange,
what's
best
used
for
solution
and
whether
or
not
it's
you
know
is
a
substitute
for
you
know,
isn't
providing
backup
generation
for
this
facility
versus
you
know
again.
A
There
are
a
lot
of
different
options
and
you're
also
right
across
the
street,
essentially
from
Nashville
airport,
and
they
might
have
a
use
for
RNG
as
well,
and
those
are
much
harder
to
decarbonize
and
I
haven't
had
the
time
to
look
into
it,
but
I
know
in
the
infrastructure
of
it's
that
not
insignificant
amount
of
funding
to
be
able
to
upgrade
the
pipe
system
to
address
leakage.
A
Well,
it
probably
doesn't
want
to
have
the
next
gen
or
the
program
doing
the
place
a
facility
come
in
in
the
next
few
months
or
so
talk
about
what
they're
doing
I
think,
especially
mostly
this
has
been
on
the
line
for
a
number
of
years,
but
it's
about
our
commissioners
are
relatively
new.
It
would
be
good
to
get
everybody
updated.
Other
comments
on
the
art
bus
feasibility
study-
yes,.
N
A
The
study
itself,
we
haven't
done
peer
review
because
that's
very,
very
rare
in
government.
If
you
want
peer
review,
could
you
make
that
request
or
recommendation
to
the
board?
Obviously
that's
a
kind
of
pseudo
policy
set.
You
know,
decision
that
I'm
not
entitled
to
make
I
can
tell
you
that
the
study
is
consistent
with
just
about
every
other
single
step.
Eight,
if
there's,
when
you
see
the
full
study,
you'll
see
a
lot
of
benchmarking
jurisdictions
and
other
districts,
but
again
I
don't
want
to
get
ahead
of
my
skis
on.
N
A
H
We
make
a
list
of
the
questions
so
that
they're
in
one.
A
What
I
would
say,
I'm
kind
of
because
you
said
you
know,
there's
some
in
a
letter
from
February.
There's
some
and
you
know
recent
minutes
from
meetings
there's
some
in
the
emails,
but
no
opportunities,
because
the
thing
that
it's
not
that
you
know
we're
trying
to
find
out
in
advance
what
the
questions
are.
I'm
just
worried
that
these
questions
are
so
technical
that
if
people
don't
have
the
reference
points
or
anything
right,
but
you're
gonna
sit
there
in
the
meeting
Kevin.
L
Yeah
I
actually
didn't
read
anything
other
than
Jones
very
thorough
analysis
of
what
she
had
read,
but
it's
we
have
been
raising
and
I
haven't
seen
any
response
points
now
for
more
than
a
year,
I
think
it's
becoming
a
a
couple
of
years
that
that
it's
going
to
be
a
plot
analysis
to
assume
that
all
buses
have
still
in
there,
because
there
are,
some
routes
are
going
to
be
very
easy
for.
Electric
drive
and
other
routes
are
more
problematic,
and
so
you
fundamentally
cook
the
books,
essentially
by
making
that
assumption.
L
Instead
of
doing
a
logical
deployment
of
the
easiest
routes
first
or
the
ones
you
Electrify
and
then
the
under
the
study
based
on
what
was
at
the
time,
looking
like
it
was
going
to
be
the
obsolete
powered
batteries
instead
of
what
we're
actually
buying
now
is
something
you
know
we
were
predicting
then,
and
it's
coming
true,
that
we
ended
up
buying
much
better
than
what
had
been
what
had
been
analyzed.
L
So
these
are
not
new
points
that
we've
documented
them
several
times,
and
it's
frustrating
to
me
if
the
report
that
comes
out
still
is
ignoring
comments.
We've
been
we've
been
issued
for,
for
you
know
now
more
than
a
year,
so
it's
good
that
to
to
package
them
all
up
together.
But
it's
also
useful
to
know
just
how
long
we've
been
we've
been
raising
these
methodology
that
was
being
used
to
lead
to
the
conclusion.
I
think
that
Arlington
County
didn't
want
to
Electrify
buses
and
and
it's
it's
very
automatic.
J
Yeah
I
have
a
a
plethora
of
questions
which
would
probably
take
up
the
rest
of
our
time
tonight,
so
I
won't
pose
them
here.
Carrie
excuse
me,
I.
Think
you
had
a
good
suggestion.
I
will
note
that
a
lot
of
these
questions
are
the
same
questions
that
we've
been
asking
for
for
months.
If
not
going
back
to
when
I
joined
the
commission
I
think
a
year
ago,
so
Kerry
I
think
it's
a
good
suggestion
to
put
all
the
questions
together
and
not
spend
probably
any
more
time
here.
A
I
think
there's
no
reason
that
our
next
meeting
needs
to
be
adversarial.
We
could
give
them
those
questions
in
advance
and
I.
Think
I
can
answer
quickly
or
or
clarify
quickly
would
be
wonderful
for
them
to
be
able
to
do
in
advance
as
long
as
their
answers
are
ultimately
satisfying
startup
with
Google
doc
and
start
posting
with
some
of
my
the
other
kind
of
and
with
one
final
thought
or
comment.
A
Is
that
based
on-
and
you
know
basically
based
on
the
conclusions
that
they
came
to
if
you
were
looking
at
the
550,
because
I
think
we
can
ignore
any
of
the
results
from
the
440
at
this
point,
because
the
550
is
less
than
what
we're
actually
buying
is
that
the
conclusion
was
that
72
or
73
of
the
routes
could
be
covered
unconscious
day
and
62.7
could
be
covered.
Could
cover
of
the
root
pairings,
which
is
a
more
challenging
issue,
could
be
covered
with
that
bus?
So
you
know
with
those
types
of
conclusions.
A
Every
other
feasibility
to
study
I've
looked
at
has
concluded
that's
good
enough
to
start
to
make
the
transition
to
electric
buses,
because
we
know
the
technology
is
going
better.
We
know
that
there
are
other
options
for
managing
the
fleet
as
well,
as
you
know,
in-wrap
charging
and
other
midday
charging,
and
things
like
that
that
you
know
there's
no
reason
and
there's
no
reason
to
consider
hydrogen
buses
at
this
again.
L
H
B
F
A
Okay,
all
right
like
in.
A
Okay,
I
know
we're
running
a
little
behind,
so
I
will
go
through
this
quickly.
This
is
a
sampling,
an
overview
of
the
structure
and
the
purpose
and
the
objectives
of
the
plan
I've
been
just
a
sampling
of
the
analysis
that
we
did
in
connection
with
one
of
the
the
primary
parts
of
it,
which
is
planning
out
and
mapping
out
scenarios
for
an
EVD
public
EV
access.
You
know
charging
Network
across
the
county
because
we
do
have
an
extraordinary
number
of
charges
already
in.
A
That
a
lot
of
the
Chargers
are
in
structures
where
there's
the
payment
for
access
or
there's
no
access
at
all.
If
it's
a
private
condo
built
also
the
cost
for
retrofitting
an
existing
building,
we've
had
several
who've
been
doing
a
separate
study,
it's
just
proving
to
be
incredibly
expensive
with
the
current
technology.
So
if
we
can
go,
you
know
go
up
to
the
beginning,
so
these
are
just
the
and
I'm
not
going
to
read
the
slides,
but
this
is
we've
done.
A
Technical
memorandum
prepared
we're
a
little
over
halfway
through
with
the
study
that
is
designed
so
that
it
should
be
complete
by
the
end
of
November,
beginning
of
December
when
I
say
complete,
there's
an
asterisk
there.
It's
pre-board,
you
know
consideration
so
when
I
say
complete,
it's
a
complete
draft
to
go
out
and
start.
You
know
addressing
stakeholder
comments
and
responses.
Make.
N
A
A
They've
developed
our
basic
developed.
These
are
the
high
level
overarching
goals
which
is
to
reduce
the
Reliance
on
Signal
occupancy
Vehicles.
So
the
overarching
purpose
is
to
first
of
all
transition
more
people
into
multimodalism
and
micro.
Mobility
facilitate
an
array
of
EV
charging
networks
because
we're
finding
that
obvious
lasers,
still
even
in
areas
such
as
ours,
there's
a
real
hesitancy
to
really
take
the
job
and
buy
an
electric
vehicle.
Because
of
what
people
don't
know,
there's
range
anxiety
discharging
anxiety.
We
have
a
lot
of
areas
like
I
said
the
pre-existing
buildings.
A
We
even
have
single
family
neighborhoods
that
have
no
garages
in
their
driveways,
so
really
to
help
facilitate
this
transition
to
electrification
of
people's.
You
know
personal,
absolute
personal
Transportation
by
giving
them
by
relieving
these
ambiguities
and
then
also
to
support
phase
decarbonization
of
the
county.
Fleet.
A
What
we've
done
through
a
series
of
internal
stakeholder
meetings
across
the
county
and
multiple
departments
is
put
together
just
initial
measures
for
each
of
these
primary,
so
there's
measures
action
that
roll
up
into
the
key
initiatives-
and
this
is
as
I
said-
if
you
want,
because
I'm
trying
to
make
up
time
to
certainly
discuss
any
of
these.
Now
that
you
want,
but
it
is
now
already
on
your
website
we're
trying
to
get
it
out
of
things
now,
but
we
have
Jenna.
A
B
A
What
I
mean
you're
talking
about
all
the
multimodalism
micro
Mobility
Transit,
obviously
plays
into
that
of
I.
Think
micro
Transit
that
sure
mentioned
in
our
letter,
but
also
just
broke
better
transportation
options
is
how
much
is
this
going
to
actually
really
look
at
where
people
go
and
where
they
might
be
Transit
and
how
they
could?
How
you
could
use
these
other
options
as
a
you
know,
help
to
lure
people
away
from
the
car,
because
this
is
a
huge
behavioral
change.
A
We're
hoping
that
the
analysis
that
we've
done
in
connection
with
the
edsc
network,
a
charging
network,
is
going
to
be
translatable
or
we
can
migrate
that
to
those
types
of
questions,
because,
as
you'll
see,
what
we
did
is
we
said.
Okay,
here
are
the
places
where
we
have
government
sites
that
have
public
accessibility
and
public,
but
that
sounds
sufficient.
So
there's
going
to
be
multiple
layers
and
we
have
to
start
looking
at
obviously
private
sector.
You
know
areas,
but
rather
than
just
randomly
integral
gas,
there's
an
analysis
that
we've
done
and
I'm
just
summarizing.
A
It
probably
pretty
clearly
is
looking
in
each
district
and
studying
traffic
patterns
for
origin
destination,
and
then
we
started
matching
up
destinations
for
where
people
go.
If
they
go
for
athletic
fields
for
kids
to
go.
If
they
go,
for
you
know,
entertainment
if
they
go
to
a
movie,
so
there
would
be
chunks
of
time
where
they
go
for
grocery
shopping,
where
people
would
be
that
we
could
start
developing
public
private
Partnerships
to
incentivize
or
to
instigate
kind
of
more
of
that
charging
Network
along
that.
A
H
Demetra
were
the
three
goals
created
somewhat
a
priori
or
are
they?
Is
it
the
result
of
data,
Transportation,
use
and
transportation
mode.
F
Use
that
led
to
the
conclusion
that.
A
It
was
a
combination
of
benchmarking
and
also
looking
at
specific
characteristics,
because,
quite
frankly,
it's
not
to
say
that
we
don't
have
electric
vehicle
uptake
in
our
Market,
but
it's
not
as
high
as
you
would
expect
out
of
a
community.
It's
it's
pretty
average,
it's
out
at
around
four
percent
4.5,
and
we
were
expecting
this
to
do
you
up
around
seven.
At
least
the
the
majority
of
the
personal
electric
vehicles
are
Tesla's.
A
And
it's
also
there's
also
going
to
this-
is
going
to
be
used
to
inform
a
lot
of
public
engagement
too,
because
I'm
going
to
jump
around,
but
I
think
that
Doug
wants
to
have
a
very
wholesome
discussion
about
greenhouse
gases
and
Claire
has
brought
up
a
couple
of
suggestions
that
really
go
towards
the
consumption-based
inventory.
We
would
recommend
not
using
a
purely
consumption-based
inventory
because
for
the
most
part,
it's
not
measurable
or
accountable.
So
what
it's
really
really
good
for
is
using
those
measures
for
public
information
and
really
persuading
public
choices.
A
So
we're
really
hoping
that
by
alleviating
the
ambiguity,
so
we
also
need
to
be
very
strategic
about
Outreach
I
would
guess
it's
the
same
here
in
California,
believe
it
or
not
in
the
Bay
Area,
one
of
the
biggest
obstacles
to
Evie
object
was
that
there
wasn't
anybody
there
weren't
any
salesmen
on
the
laws
that
really
knew
about
electric
vehicles.
A
Yeah
and
would
somebody
walked
on
and
say
you
know
we
were
considering
I,
don't
know,
maybe
we'd
buy
an
electric
vehicle
and
they
had
a
couple
of
basic
questions
that
the
people,
the
sales
people
thought,
could
answer.
So
it
really
suppresses
yeah
of
that.
So
there
are
things
that
you
know
we're
we're
going
to
do
there,
but
it
was
a
combination
of
benchmarking
because
there
are
Trends.
A
B
A
Much
what
percentage
drop
would
we
like
to
see
for
single
occupancy,
Vehicles
related
increase
in
micro
Mobility
as
well
as
Transit
use
and
again
you
know
kind
of
setting
the
goals
for
what
you're
trying
to
achieve,
and
then
you
can
actually
then
use
your
to
count
that,
in
terms
of
how
does
what
does
that
mean
in
terms
of
determinization,
you
know
at
first
we
did
have
an
arm
one
of
the
primary
goals.
A
We
had
a
fourth
one
which
was
reducing
the
number
of
cars
per
household,
because
we
have
households
here
and
it's
not
a
frequent
that
a
household
has
four
cars
which
is
pretty
wild,
but
you
know
I,
don't
even
think
you
have
to
do
that.
All
you
have
to
do
is
say
we
want
to
see
reduce
people
right,
because
if
people
find
they're
not
using
their
cars,
they
may
not
have
this
many
so
again
because
yeah,
if
you
just
Express.
A
K
A
Yeah,
that's
the
kind
of
thing
that
that
you'd
have
to
kind
of
figure
out
and
think
differently
from
the
way
we're
doing
trans
now
so
that
you
know
I,
don't
I
can
just
plug
it
in
and
something
will
show
up
at
the
nearest
corner
and
and
I'm
on
my
way
and
and
connect
with
with
you
know
or
or
used
routes
or
whatever.
But
you
know
it's
again,
you
know
and
I'm
one
that
at
least
tries
to
use
public.
A
It's
one
of
the
reasons
and
I
know
it's
a
little
frustrating
it's
frustrating
for
me.
I've
seen
it
in
other
places,
so
I've
seen
other
places
that
are
a
little
bit
more
Consolidated,
but
these
plans
interface
and
that
part
is
really
not
exclusively.
But
it's
the
primary
function
of
the
transit
strategic
plan
right,
but.
K
A
Not
in
our
trans
institution
plan
again,
you
know
we
commented
on
that
last
month.
There's
nothing
about
climate
change,
there's
nothing!
It's
always
a
kind
of
a
wish
we'll
make
it
a
little
bit
more
convenient
and
I
think
in
some
areas
it
probably
does,
but
it
doesn't
address
the
issue
that
I'm
raising
of
it
makes
it
easier
for,
in
some
cases,
for
people
that
you
see
in
public
progresses
the
issue
of
how
do
you
make
it
easier
for
people
that
don't
use
it?
N
A
Transportation
in
some
areas
where
there's
morning
and
evening-
but
you
know
when
you
get
especially
North-
the
Langston
Boulevard
nobody's
riding
those
buses
and
I,
don't
think
having
them
all
day
running
every
half
hour
is
going
to
increase
your
ridership
that
much
so
again,
it's
it's
it's!
You
know
we
need
a
transportation
plan
and
this
all
needs
to
be
kind
of
fit
into
as
we're
thinking
of
urban.
A
It
is
probably
50
electrification,
50,
changing
people's
behaviors
and
I.
Don't
recall
seeing
this
in
the
plan.
I
don't
know
the
circulator
if
I'm
paying
the
right
thing,
but
one
idea
that
I'd
be
interested
to
know
if
it
was
considered
as
something
that
DC
did
I
can't
years,
but
in
addition
to
their
bus
routes,
which
are
really
comprehensive,
they
also
have
the
circulators,
which
are.
A
You
know
towards
metros
and
I
when
I
think
about
you
know:
art
buses,
it's
wonderful
to
have
those
options,
but
I
think
for
me
to
not
take
my
car
somewhere.
It
has
to
be
really
pretty
fast
and
so
having
like
micro
routes
that
you
know
I'm
I'm
just
too
far
to
walk
to
East
Falls
Church,
but
a
mile
and
a
half
you
know
just
going
up
and
down.
You
know
Williamsburg
Boulevard
or
some
of
these
smaller
routes
where
there's
very
little
ridership.
A
You
know
it
has
to
be
differently
designed
for
a
different
population.
That's
not
going
to
be
relying
on
a
bus
for
their
Total.
Transportation
needs
all
the
time
to
make
it
a
viable
option.
It
just
needs
to
be
a
lot
more
frequent
and
I.
Think
you
can
do
that
with
shorter
targeted
routes.
That
are,
you
know
going
straight
to
the
Metro
or
micro
Transit
words.
B
A
And
we
may
be
getting
some
of
those
circuit
later
routes.
You
know
on
Grant
to
us,
that'd
be
great,
well
they're
not
being
offered
to
us
in
a
way
we
would
have
preferred
DC
said
yeah:
we've
got
to
get
rid
of
Bruce
and
give
them
back
to
the
local
jurisdictions,
because
electrification
is
costing
us
too
much
fun.
That's
so
short-sighted,
because
actually
one
of
the
issues
is
inter-regional
Transit,
because
again,
most
of
us
don't
just
stay
in
Arlington.
A
There's
I
agree
so
much,
which
is
why,
if
I'm
going
to
TC
I
am
very
oblique,
so
I'm
in
New,
York,
City,
metro,
yeah,
but
I,
don't
know
how
much
control
we
have
over
those
things
being
tossed
over
and
I.
Think
Alexandria
is
good
yes
well
again,
and
when
we
get
to
the
legislative
letters
yeah,
we
just
need
to
spend
more
money
in
transit
and
less
highways.
A
I
just
want
to
get
through
this
pretty
quickly,
because
again,
it's
just
kind
of
a
sneak
peek
of
something
that's
going
to
come
to
you
in
a
much
more
wholesome
way
later
on
this
fall.
So
if
we
could
get
back
to
the
presentation
very
quickly,
because
I
know
you
need
to
get
to
your
legislative
priorities
and
Chase
that's
going
to
be
Mr,
Toad's
Wild
Ride
this
year,
isn't
it
that
we've
got
these,
you
know
goals
and
I
wanted
to
go
really
quickly
through
some
of
the
analysis.
So
you
know
so
here.
A
You've
got
the
the
county
public
charging
sites,
and
this
is
going
to
expand
to
Binion,
can
actually
work
with
us
on
a
schedule
shorter
than
two
years.
To
put
those
in
the
next
slide,
please.
This
is
how
we
did.
You
know.
O
This
is
just
Dimitra
yeah
you're,
not
you're,
not
sharing
your
screen
anymore.
Can
you
please
appreciate
the
screen.
A
A
It's
just
building
too
expensive
high
social
vulnerability,
we're
looking
at
those
places,
but
we're
not
really
planning
out
those
areas
on
the
are
the
presumption
that
socially
vulnerable
areas
will
go
out
and
buy
electric
vehicles
on
mass,
even
with
the
federal
tax
credits,
so
we're
looking
at
using
them
for
really
kind
of
Economic,
Development
and
more
circulation
within
those
districts,
identify
travel
destinations
and
then
looking
at
potential
on
and
off
Street
location
next
slide,
please.
A
A
A
Of
these
along
federal
aid
highways
sort
of
eligible
for
Navi
money
under
the
infrastructure,
Bill,
the.
K
A
Money
is,
oh,
you
get
me
on
my
favorite
subject
of
federal
credits.
Nothing
is
really
basically
lumped
into
two
different
programs.
One
are
just
the
local
connectors
and
the
others
of
what
they
call
the
college
and
all
connectors.
A
Then
we
are
connected
with
the
state
and
connected
with
the
regional,
nvrc
and
Cog
in
both
DFI
sections
of
that
and
we're
identifying
areas
according
to
the
state
Department
of
Environmental
Quality.
You
know
they
seem
to
think
that
we
are
for
corridor
charging,
but
they
said
installed
out.
They
think
that
we're
at
some
saturation
point
and
we're
trying
to
really
take
their
analysis
and
look
at
that
and
identify
where
inadvertently
there
just
may
be
some
Pockets
that
they
haven't
gone
up.
A
Yeah,
that
was
the
last
slide.
So
again
you
get
just
a
taste
that
I
know
it
seems
crazy
to
spend
so
much
time
on
the
charging
of
the
structure
network,
but
we
really
just
think
that
that's
going
to
be
not
the
only
silver
bulletins,
one
of
the
Silver
Bullets
have
really
helping
to
accelerate
and
expand
this
transition
to
electric
vehicles
in
terms
of
looking
at
incentives
for
basically
private
Property
Owners
to
install
for
public
uses,
there's
only
way
there
might
be
some
money
involved
for
them.
A
A
Dominion
is
supposedly
piloting
because
in
areas
where
their
Dominion
street
lights,
they're
not
individually,
metered
all
of
the
county
on
street
lights
are
so
if
they're,
not
individually
metered,
they
can
attach
a
charger
to
that,
but
they're
testing
and
piloting,
and
they
told
me
that
the
puddle
will
be
done
by
December,
we'll
say
this
kind
of
remote
technology
that
doesn't
need
to
be
individually.
A
So
if
that
works,
it
can
be
I
think
in
terms
of
neighborhoods,
because
I
know
that
everybody
was
talking
about
things
that
Harrisburg
and
Baltimore
and
a
couple
of
other
you
know,
Regional
in
the
Mid-Atlantic
area,
have
done
where
they've
allowed
people
to
drag.
Basically
the
charging.
You
know
cable
across
the
Cyclone
out
of
their
house,
but
this
is
universal.
You
can't
reserve
in
the
public
right
away
a
parking
space
to
that
person,
so
these
programs
are
failing.
A
They
get
up
and
pilot
they
fail,
understandably,
because
the
people
are
like
well,
if
I'm
going
through
all
this
cost.
To
do
that,
I
need
to
be
able
to
have
the
guarantee
that
my
car
is
going
to
be
able
to
be
right.
There,
yeah
and
I'm,
going
to
be
able
to
charge
it
so
we're
just
looking
at
hopefully
remote
Technologies
and
other
technologies
that
are
currently
awkward.
A
And
very
quickly,
because
I
want
to
get
you
to
the
legislative
priorities.
Letters
Worchester,
Polytechnic
Institute
evidently
has
a
well-established
program
where
there
are
super
students
in
their
junior
class,
receive
a
lot
of
proposals
from
all
over
the
United
States
and
some
from
overseas
and
they're
from
governments
they're
from
corporations
they're
from
non-profits,
and
we
pitch
projects
to
them
and
it's
very,
very
highly
competitive
and
there
were
a
number
from
the
Khan
region
and
hours
that
I,
Chosen
and
I
couldn't
help,
but
think
of
Joan,
because
it's
a
kind
of
mitish
Institution.
A
So
we
started
they
chose
ours.
We
started
the
meetings
with
them
last
Friday
that
they
are
it's
a
semester-long
project
for
them
they
do
the
first
six
weeks
on
campus
and
we're
having
discussions
with
them.
Setting
up
a
nationally
renowned
subject
matter,
expert
interviews
with
them:
Steve
Wolves,
At,
The
Conch,
is
just
an
absolutely
wonderful
and
connecting
us
with
some
really
highly
regarded
experts,
and
he
actually
turns
out
to
be
an
alumni
of
WPI
and
then
they
will
be
here
on
site.
A
G
A
We're
supposed
to
have
a
discussion
with
tomorrow:
yeah
I
mean
it'd
be
great.
To
have,
you
know,
were
those
numbers
any
number
I
always
make
more
sense.
N
A
There
may
be
other
issues,
I
mean
it's
not
that
studies
don't
exist,
but
to
have
one
that's
specific
to
your
building
or
building
opportunities
here,
whether
they
look
at
an
actual
sprc
and
really
start
pulling
that
apart
for
a
new
construction
or
whether
they
look
at
under
the
cmri
an
existing
building.
That
may
be.
Why
don't
you
have
a
look
at
a
couple
of
the
buildings
that.
A
Again,
you
know
you've
got
this
plan
underway
and
it
does
really
suggest
that
a
large
number
of
not
the
small
Auto.
You
know
the
one
or
two
levels,
but
we're
talking
multi-story,
yeah
residential
places
or
what
yeah
you
can
tear
it
down
and
we'll
be
happy.
You
know
replace
this
market
right,
affordable,
housing
with
something
that's
luxury
apartments,
and
maybe
a
few
well.
That
honestly
comes
like
a
blended.
A
It
because
you're
looking
at
the
embodied
carbon,
that's
associated
with
the
Demolition
as
you're.
Looking
at
you
know.
What's
are
the
options
and
standards
for
really
pulling
down
the
carbon
content
of
any
new
construction
right,
yeah.
So
again,
yeah
there's
something
out
there.
It's
on
people's
minds.
I
will
I,
will
bounce
that
off
before
eager
Minds
tomorrow,
that's.
A
Okay
and
yeah
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
Green
Building
incentive
policy
and.
A
I
can
tell
you
what
I've
socialized
with
the
board
again.
This
is
something
that-
and
you
know
most
of
this,
but
not
all
of
this.
Already
we
went
to
the
county
manager.
The
county
manager
did
ask
actually
County
attorney
to
check
something
that
we
were
being
consistent
with
state
law
and
we're
going
sideways
with
the
Green
Building
incentive
program.
A
For
those
of
you
who
are
new
or
didn't
hear
this
before
we
were
doing
a
deep
analysis
of
that
program,
and
even
though
last
year
we
did
5
billion
square
feet,
which
was
extraordinary
over
50
percent
of
that
was
grandfathered
into
the
prior
standard,
so
how
we
started
noticing
that
lately,
we've
had
people
that
have
been
going
for
tier
three,
but
essentially
anybody.
That
was
a
grandfather
that
was
going
through
the
two
lowest
years
that
nobody
was
touching
tiers
three
or
four.
A
We
were
also
getting
a
lot
of
feedback
from
the
developers,
of
course,
the
sprc
that
the
building
was
kind
of
making
them
weary.
That's
on
some
level,
and
there
was
one
project
that
was
totally
yeah
I
mean
I,
think
was
it?
Was
it
a
C2
E2?
No,
it
was
in
the
energy
committee.
Remember
the
gentleman
that
you
brought
in
and
he's
a
consultant
developers
and
and
Rich
and
I
just
we
could
feel
the
blood
just
kind
of
draining
out
of
our
head.
A
At
the
same
time
he
said
yeah,
he
said
like
there
was
a
project
of
a
client
of
mine
and
they
were
going
to
build
vertical
solar
on
the
envelope
of
the
building
and
I,
don't
know
who
it
was
I
think
their
their
designer
or
something
said
that
don't
bother
it's
too
complicated
to
get
through
this
process,
just
write
out
a
check
to
affordable
housing.
You
know
kind
of
move
forward,
so
we
started
saying:
okay:
where
do
we
want
to
go?
How
do
we
address
maybe
issues
and
where
do
we
sell
gaps?
A
So
what
we
came
up
with
was
a
very
kind
of
some
people
might
say,
but
we
would
like
to
think
it's
the
ball
problem
that
really
streamlined
the
lead,
instead
of
making
it
so
incremental.
It's
a
streamlined
lead,
have
a
very
strong
standard
for
lead,
a
couple
of
extra
measures
and
fit
alternate
climate
adaptation
model,
which
is.
A
Have
stuff
that's
really
Consolidated
kind
of
pulls
some
options
into
your
Baseline
and
make
less
simple
options,
because
the
options
that
list
started
getting
so
long.
It
was
ridiculous
and
it
started
making
I
I
think
it
was
part
of
the
tedium
that
was
really
affecting
the
developers
they're
like
geez.
There's
this
50
things
that
we've
got
to
do
all
these
analyzes
and
catch
one
of
them
and
then,
of
course,
the
ultimate
which
was
the
climate
adaptation,
because
what
we're
looking
at
is
a
really
forward-facing,
not
solely,
but
actually
in
extreme
heat.
A
You
don't
need
that
that
standard,
so
we
started
developing
a
proposal
for
financial
acceptance
and
the
financial
incentives
or
based
on
price
value,
to
be
quite
honest
with
you
quite
well
as
time
went
on,
because
we've
been
working
on
this
for
a
year
now
and
it's
right
there
with
the
office
Market
starting
to
really
cave
as
much
as
it
did,
I'm,
not
sure
whether
the
financial
incentives
or
you
know
kind
of
realistic
expectations.
A
We
also
added
on
an
existing
buildings,
because
we
know
that
we
have
existing
buildings
that
predate
a
lot
of
the
code.
I'm,
not
saying
that
the
current
code
is
wanting
a
lot
of
areas
that
is
behind
behind
the
international
code,
but
the
pre-existing
buildings
were
mainly
built
are
very
little,
so
our
pre-existing
buildings
are
trapping
a
lot
of
our
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
generating
a
lot
of
our
greenhouse
gas
Solutions
in
terms
so
we've
also
developed
an
existing
buildings
and
we
say
well
wait
a
minute.
Thank
you
Capote!
A
A
I
was
really
interested.
You
know
talk
to
Ted
and
I'm
all
about
that
where
we
hope
that,
through
awareness,
through
familiarity
little
by
little
by
little
you're
going
to
start
to
see
that
kind
of
climate
adaptation
greatly
to
design,
we
had
the
meeting
we
presented
to
the
county
manager.
He
did
ask
us
a
number
of
questions
and
we
have
the
information
so
we're
ready
to
go
back
to
him
within
the
next
couple
of
weeks
and
then
we're
going
to
go
to
the
board.
A
But
to
be
frank-
and
maybe
we
shouldn't
have
exercised
so
much
advantage,
we
thought
if
we
just
up
the
entity,
it
could
be
making
the
the
program
could
be
creeping
towards
self-obsolescence
and
we're
also
really
focusing
on
extreme
heat,
as
as
a
future
I
think
that's
going
to
be
in
addition
to
Inland
flooding,
that's
going
to
be
our
second
largest
financial
vulnerability
with
significant
impacts
so
and
she
is
for
those
of
you
that
are
familiar
with
it
as
a
much
stronger
presence
of
biophilic,
Destruction
and
I
loved
this
vertical
Gardens
and
Driver.
A
They're
all
over
the
place
and
I
saw
a
lot
of
that
actually
at
Sydney,
where
they
were
just
taking
every
opportunity
to
do
green,
Walls
green.
You
know
facades,
but
they're.
Also
making
space
for
Green
Space,
which
you
know
well
downtown
Sydney,
is
pretty
impervious
I
have
to
say
the
the
kind
of
newer
section
of
it,
but
in
that
heat
wave
where
they
had
the
millennial
drought,
I
mean
they
just
started,
realizing
that
they
had
to
really
start
controlling
the.
F
D
They'll
actually
just
report
to
this
committee
that
the
energy
committee's
July
meeting,
a
major
chunk
of
that
meeting
was
focused
on
brainstorming
with
Dimitra,
to
the
extent
that
she
was
able,
at
that
time
to
share
with
us
different
ideas
that
might
go
into
a
proposal
for
a
new
or
revised
updated.
D
We
build
an
incentive
policy
program
and
we
did
bring
in
Tad
Langer,
who
is
very
well
tied
in
with
Arlington
County
developer
Community
and
has
represented
many
of
the
many
projects
over
the
last
20
years
and
I
haven't
debrief
demetriac
since
that
meeting
on
it.
So
I
can
share
my
Impressions.
D
You
know
it
would
be
wonderful
if
Arlington
County
could
somehow
incentivize
existing
building
owners
to
Electrify
or
to
decarbonize
to
get
rid
of
their
methane-powered
systems
and
replace
them
with
electric
and
but
unfortunately,
you
know
in
the
State
Legislative
environment
we
have
here
with
the
Dylan
Rule
and
the
current
state
laws
in
place.
The
only
real
incentive
Karen
that
might
be
used
would
be
tax
rebates
or
tax
reductions
and
property
taxes
and
Dimitra
to
her
credit
I
believe
has
been
looking
very
closely
trying
to
find
a
way
to
make
that
work.
D
But
in
talking
with
Ted
Langer
it
was
my
impression
I'm.
Just
speaking
for
myself,
it's
really
tough
to
do.
It's
really
tough
to
effectively
incentivize
existing
building
owners
to
Electrify,
and
it
would
be
great
if
we
could
find
some
way
to
do
it.
D
You
know
in
other
jurisdictions
they
can
just
have
a
regulation
or
have
an
ordinance
or
have
a
state
law,
but
we
can't
really
do
that
here
in
Arlington,
so
I
don't
know
and
plus,
of
course,
if
Dimitri
in
the
air
team
or
whoever
go
to
the
decision
makers
in
the
county
and
say
we
want
to
give
up
some
County
tax
revenue
yeah.
For
this
great
thing
to
help
Humanity,
that's
a
really
really
hard
sell
and
there's
only
so
many
bullets
in
the
gun
so
to
speak
and.
A
To
what
extent
does
renovation
actually
raise
the
property?
That
means,
if,
if
you're
getting
that,
then
they
should
be
even
if
you're
giving
a
text
incentives
I,
think
it's
if
I
could
guessing
where
your
discussion
went
with
this?
Is
that
they're
not
looking
to
avoid
extra
taxes,
the
developers,
the
building
owners
they're
looking
to
neutralize
or
minimize
the
cost
of
the
investment,
so
they're
looking
for
incentives
that
kind
of
offset
the
Investments
but
the
the
IRA
incentives.
F
A
And
more
complicated
than
that,
and
sometimes
the
the
retrofit
it
you
know,
kind
of
transition
friendly
is
the
more
expensive
aspect
of
it.
What
we're
trying
to
do
and
I'm
hoping
the
good
news
is,
you
know
there
I
know
that
the
administration
is
trying
to
pull
us
out
of
ratchet
and
there
has
been
a
lawsuit,
that's
been
filed,
so
we're
looking
I
think
the
next
pleading
for
the
plaintiffs,
the
filing
date.
A
A
Hopping
back
a
little
bit,
if
you
don't
know
if
it
would
be
helpful
to
even
just
communicate
with
eligible
households
about
the
availability
of
some
of
the
individual
incentives
in
the
ira.
I
know
when
you
approach
it
from
a
neighborhood
or
census
tract
perspective.
That
can
sometimes
be
a
little
more
cost
effective
and
folks
that
are
in.
F
A
So
you
have
to
meet
them
more
than
halfway
to
get
any
kind
of
I
have
to
be
honest
with
you.
That's
it's
not
that
it's
a
bad
idea.
It's
just
not
a
very
productive
idea,
because
the
big
kind
of
hurdle
is
really
the
retrofit
retrofit,
the
household
or
the
you
know
small
family,
the
guard
Department,
whatever
it
may
be.
A
We
have
had
and
we
do
and
what
we've
had
to
do
is
probably
a
more
targeted-
and
you
know,
kind
of
louder
campaign
to
draw
people
to
our
website,
because
we
keep
on
getting
nasty
but
by
people
within
the
county.
Are
peers
they're
like
why?
Don't
you
guys
like
tell
people
about
the
incentives
and
it's
like
here's,
the
URL
it's
set
up
there
from
us.
We
update
it.
You
know
routinely
yeah.
N
A
But
also
we're
looking
at
having
full
money
and
we're
having
to
look
to
our
budget,
but
we're
trying
to
with
the
Green
Building
choice
and
other
programs
really
do
audio
visual
we're
trying
to
really
gear
instead
of
having
a
kind
of
webinar
or
having
an
event
that
people
you
know,
10
people
or
20
people
come
to
the
event.
You're
not
making
scale
is
to
really
start
talking
to
people
and
have
films
with
whole
home.
You
know
contractors
and
Auditors
that
go
and
you
follow
them.
You
film,
that
having
people
hi.
A
This
is
what
you
get
by
electrifying
and
switching
out
this
equipment,
and
this
is
what
you
have
to
look
for
and
do
and
blah
blah
blah,
and
it's
interesting
because
they're
doing
it
I'm
still,
you
know
after
all,
these
years,
still
getting
I'm
on
the
serves
for
people
groups
with
the
ccas
in
the
Bay
Area,
and
it
was
interesting
because
this
past
week,
I
ordered
it
on
to
Rich,
because
he's
developing
Energy
Futures
proposal
for
the
federal
grants
and
or
electrification
equipment
and
I
said
I
thought
this
would
be
interesting
and
it
was
people
there
going
well.
A
A
They
lose
their
taste
for
it,
I
think
if
we
let
them
know
in
advance
and
really
they've
been
comfortable
with
the
process,
it's
better
so
I
hoping
that
by
doing
that
and
then
by
constantly
bringing
out
that
every
event
at
the
county
event
hi
go
on
and
see
these.
You
know
webinars
about
electrifying
your
Hub
and
doing
this
and
doing
that
and
that's
a
crossover
where
we
do
want
to
incorporate,
particularly
with
public
choice
of
public
education
persuasion.
A
A
End
of
the
year
where's
the
opportunity
for
Quality
engagements.
No,
no,
that
internal
briefing
of
Overboard
and
then
after
that,
then
we
go
to
the
public
occasion,
which
generally
happens
is
the
rule
of
thumb.
Is
we
can't
go
to
the
public
with
detailed
information
that
the
board
itself
doesn't
have?
So
what
you
do?
Is
you
go
into
these
two
by
twos
they're,
not
for
decision
making
or
for
exchanging
information
q,
a
with
the
board?
B
It's
going
to
put
us
quite
behind
after
that
process
of
what
it
was
originally
planned.
2000
2023
was
when
we,
the
update,
was
supposed
to
happen.
A
B
A
For
and
I
think
this
is
an
important
thing
and
I
guess
I
guess
you
know,
we've
been
spending
a
lot
of
time
at
the
sprcs
and
you
know
we
still
see
a
lot
of
pushback
on
election,
and
that
was
a
key
issue
that
we
fought
pretty
hard
for
when
they
adopted,
updated,
gbi
and
and
I.
Think
as
we've
gone
through
these,
and
especially
as
new
Commissioners
people
like
Barker,
come
in
and
said
you
know,
really.
A
We
need
to
be
looking
at
a
lot
of
other
things,
particularly
related
to
storm
water,
Urban
heat
island,
so
I
mean
from
our
perspective
of
you
know.
What
do
we
want?
You
know
kind
of
what's
the
Baseline.
A
A
So
you
know
kind
of
this
is
kind
of
our
points
of
looking
at
its
understanding.
You
know
and
maybe
again
more
streamlined
again,
I'm
less
and
less
induced
by
the
bead.
Although
I
know
they
have
some
other
certification
aspects
of
it
that
they
don't
they're.
Really
not
geared
towards
decarbonization
that
they're
they're
not
going
to
be
other
programs
they're
out
there.
A
First,
that
are
better
substitutes,
because
it's
a
little
bit
of
everything
and
since
they
can
pick
and
choose
they're,
not
necessary
and
center
around
that
article
is
they're
not
even
building
buildings
that
understand
the.
What
we're
seeing
with
it
climate,
intense
you're,
going
to
be
young,
intense.
A
Back
to
you
know,
no,
you
know
kind
of
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
plenty
of
time
to
book
in
and
make
sure
that
we
can
kind
of.
You
know
push
for
something,
but
again
not
understanding
we're
in
Virginia.
We've
got
to
make
it
a
feeling.
We
also
know
we
have
Montgomery
County
in
D.C
that
you
know
I
think
DC.
It
will
be
full
of
full
electrification
for
all
buildings.
N
A
Very
happy
Mary
Beth
from
DC
is
very
happy
to
come
to
you.
It's
just
that
Green
Village
this
week,
next
time
and
I'll,
just
it's
one
of
my
favorite
things
that
I'm
just
throwing
it
out
there
I
think
in
the
future.
Joe,
maybe
forget
the
insurance
aspect,
because
ensurability
of
building
is
going
to
be
a
big
thing.
Yeah.
A
A
A
We
won't
know
until
after
the
elections
in
either
case
we're
still
going
to
have
the
governor
that
is
pushing
back
against
the
you
know
the
gains
that
were
made
a
couple
of
years
ago,
but
I
think
you
know
if,
if
the
both
the
houses
shift,
there's
a
potential
there
to
actually
at
least
pass
legislation
and
make
it
he,
though,
but
that
starts
to
kind
of
change
the
Dynamics
then,
and
it
gives
an
opportunity
for
the
legislature
to
really
discuss
them
and
work
on
some
of
these
issues,
and
then
you
know
who
changed
in
government
Governor
or
change.
A
A
So,
anyway,
that's
kind
of
the
way
it
was
kind
of
framed
so
a
little
more
than
last
year,
but
with
enough
kind
of
if
we
want
to
go
through
I
think
somebody
had
mentioned,
adding,
maybe
a
little
bit
more
specific
to
Arlington.
B
With
what
because
I
I
somehow
missed
this
Letterkenny
I,
just
put
it
in
the
middle,
because
I
want
to
be
able
to.
H
Read
it
I
did
and
I
feel
very
strongly
about
it.
Now,
okay,
can,
let's
start
with
the
very
top.
What
was
the
first
thing?
H
Okay
as
a
top
priority,
Reggie,
let's
scroll
through
the
whole
thing
and
I
I
guess
I
want
to
ask
ourselves
what
is
actually
going
to
make
the
most
difference
if
it
happens
to
Ireland
and
I
feel
super
strongly
about
asking
for
permission
from
the
state
to
use
the
latest
building
code
here
in
Arlington,
I
I
wonder
what
skin,
if
it
would
be
off
Richmond's
back
to
allow
Arlington
to
do
that.
H
I
realized
that
Arlington
may
run
a
risk
that
developers
won't
come
here
anymore,
but
because
they'd
rather
work
where
there's
a
weaker
building
code.
H
Is
Reggie
more
important,
I
mean
it.
It's
it's
grant
money
it's,
but
fundamentally,
is
it
more
important
to
have
a
building
code
if
we
could
possibly
get
it,
I
mean
they're
both.
A
Important
yeah
and
it's
I
think
maybe
you
know
we
can,
if
we
add
in
an
extra
sentence,
we
could
start
another
paragraph
and
just
title
that
kind
of
protecting
past
gains
or
something
I
had
suggested
a
category
for
these
two
yeah
top
three
that
says
it
just
kind
of
started
with
this
is.
A
And
you
know:
if
we're
going
to
get
to
renewable
energy
grid,
is
you
know
it's
not?
It's
got
to
be
at
the
state
level
level,
so
you
can
see
the
whole
thing.
The
main
importance
of
Reggie
I
I
think
that
the
funding
was
today.
Virginia
has
taken
in
730
million
dollars
on
a
Reggie
in
just
a
couple
of
years,
yeah,
but
separate
apart
from
that,
it's
a
it's
a
typical.
You
know
Carbon
Market,
where
the
whole
point
of
it
is
not
to
be
Eternal
it's
to
have
these
emitters,
these
big
emitters.
L
A
You
know
it
sounds
like
Dylan,
Rule
and
being
able
to
set
our
own
standards
is
a
major
major
priority
for
Arlington
County,
less
likely
that
it's
going
to
happen,
but
the
defensive
priority
of
making
sure
that
we
stay
in
Reggie
which
to
leave
would
be
headlines
and
you
know,
sort
of
a
culture,
proxy
war
that
would
take
us
in
such
the
wrong
direction
and
be
so
out
of
Step,
where
I
think
the
state
of
Virginia
actually
is
certainly
Arlington
County,
but
I
think
we
can
have
both
those
priorities
and
the
first
bullets.
B
D
H
To
meet
you,
what
would
it
take
for
the
county
to
actually
ask
what
would
that
look
like.
A
They're
not
technically
an
employee
of
accounting,
all
of
the
states
building
code
administrator
of
sharia,
they're,
technically
employees
of
the
state.
Oh
they
don't
report
to
anybody.
They
don't
report
up
to
anybody
at
the
county.
Is
that
because
of
the
dealing
rules?
Yeah,
that's
because
we're
it's
like.
A
So
why
why
why
negotiate
against
ourselves
and
ask
for
a
you
know:
a
half
measure.
You
know
these
are
our
priorities
as
the
commission
right.
So
why
not
start
strong
and
of
course,
we're
not
going
to
achieve
that
goal,
but
you
know.
B
And
you
know
I
just
read
that
a
couple
days
ago
and
just.
A
Well,
so
so,
okay,
so
is
there
discussion
about
switching
the
order
again.
A
H
K
D
A
Well,
the
thing
is:
is
that
especially
this
deals
with
the
fact
that
for
especially
multi-family
Residential
Building,
it's
the
it's
the
renters
that
pay
the
utility
bills,
but
it's
the
owners
that
actually
pay
to
do
the
upgrades,
so
there's
not
much
support,
so
the
idea
is,
if
you
can
do
the
on
Bill
or
it's
that
way.
At
least
you
know
the
financing
would
be
done
in
that
it
would
be
the
utility
payers
that
would
you
know,
pay
that
back
potentially
in
terms
of
to
save
it.
A
E
M
So
we're
joking
I
said
now.
You
know,
but
I
can
know
you
know.
What's
the
next
Italian?
No,
no,
we
were
for
music
and
you
are
in
the
periodic
system.
We
are
LinkedIn
so,
but
you
know
there's
not
only
tutorials
here.
You
cannot
really
rest
on
that,
of
course,
but
at
least
you
know
that
you're
not
in
the
wrong
way.
A
O
Yeah
this
might
be
heretical,
but
given
the
27
billion
dollars,
that
is
about
to
be
released
in
the
next
six
months
to
actually
execute
Green
Banks
all
across
the
country
and
the
fact
that
at
the
state
level,
this
the
state
department
of
energy
is
very
actively
preparing
their
applications
and
and
all
that,
if
we
are
looking
to
prioritize,
maybe
we
can
strike
the
green
Bank
support.
O
Not
because
it's
not
important,
but
because
it's
kind
of
one
of
the
things
that
there
is
without
a
shadow
of
a
doubt,
going
to
be
progress
on
Green
Banks
this
coming
year
because
of
federal
action
and
the
fact
that
the
governor
is
not
blocking
action
on
on
by
his
Department
of
energy
on
the
money
flowing
through.
So
just
in
terms
of
priorities.
A
L
K
A
That
would
allow
that
but
I
think
if,
if
the
Comfort
level
with
the
lawyers
is
that
it's
just
a
matter,
we
have
to
get
the
money
we
can
go
forward
and
set
up
a
green
Bank,
then
I'm,
fine
with
dropping
that
an
estate
is
really
covered
because
you
know
they're
getting
their
Administration
out
of
it
too.
So.
A
A
catch-all
to
prevent
any
kind
of
backsliding.
You
know
you
never
know
what
the
next
cause
the
lab
Community
from
any
kind
of
political
figure
to
walk
backwards
on
some
of
the
progress
we've
made
and
I
think
it
would
be
a
priority
to
to
defend
against
that
kind
of
backsliding
on
Reggie
on
Green
Banks
on
any
kind
of
effort
that's
already
being
made.
So
a
maintenance
of
effort
could
be
sort
of
a
catch-all
category,
and
maybe
some
more
of
these
could
be.
A
Is
that
you
know
kind
of
general,
you
know
any
any
effort
to
undercut.
You
know
these,
and
these
are
a
particular
advers
areas
right
now
or
are
these
three
bullets?
But
you
know
it
kind
of
again.
You
know
our
politicians
and-
and
you
know,
the
staff
are
pretty
much
attuned
to
how
things
are
changing.
So
you
know
kind
of
getting
this
in
when
you
know
our
legislator
delegate
our
legislative
liaison
working,
we
shall
know
kind
of
get
the
County
Board
guy
who's
done.
What
things
to
focus
on.
K
A
A
So
anything
else
in
that
paragraph,
are
we,
okay
with
the
on
Bill
Finance
pain,
who
are
going
to
strike
the
green
Bank.
A
A
Solar
ready
schools-
that's
all
already.
Schools
actually
is
the
thing
to
keep
on
just
because
that's
a
bar
for
all
along,
so
it'll
make
her
happy
and
I
think
our
schools
are
mostly
going
to
be,
are
being
built
to
be
sold
already.
Is
they
replace
roofs
so
particularly
perfect
to
us,
but
Community
Choice
aggregation
to
make
sure?
Do
you
get
any
sense
that
we
need
more
from
the
legislation
on
that?
A
You
think
that's
going
to
be
good!
My
personal
opinion
is
that
it
needs
to
be
there's
some
big
apps
there.
That
needs
to
be.
Maybe
we
should
move
that
I
mean
to
me.
I
can
make
it
seconds.
You
know,
because
the
the
retail
choice
is
really
important
too
we'll
flip
orders
and
by
the
way,
we're
probably
moving
forward
next
week
with
finalizing
a
contract
well
in
October
get
that
executed
in
a
firm
that
stood
in
the
analysis,
and
we
still
expect
it
before
the
end
of
the
year,
and
it
includes
retail
Choice
as
well.
A
A
B
Okay,
so
then
transportation
school.
A
B
N
L
L
Well
right
now,
the
problem
is
that
you,
you
incentivize
diesel,
replacement
and
diesels.
You
don't
incentivize
replacement
other
fossil.
A
C
C
B
F
A
L
I
mean
there's
across
the
board.
There's
you
know
and
I
know
the
problem
in
school
bus,
but
there's
across
the
board
incentivization
to
get
rid
of
diesel
for
these
problems.
We've
got
other
possibilities.
A
Kind
of
the
ask
or
expand
well
there
are
pro
I
mean
the
state
is
giving
a
lot
of
Grants
or
transit
buses
right,
but
are
they
do
they
have
Grant
programs
with
that?
An.
H
L
K
A
Previous
years
many
cooks
yeah
over
the
years
they
are
our
priorities,
haven't
changed
all
that
much
other
than
that.
We
just
didn't
really
focus
on
the
last
year
or
so
because
it
wasn't
any
point
right
and
then
the
increased
funding
I
mean
I,
actually
think
this
is
really
important.
A
F
H
H
B
Well,
we
have
to
approve
here.
The
problem
is
we
have
to
prove
it
now.
B
B
C
A
All
all
in
favor
any
opposed.
A
B
A
Well,
the
first
sprc
was
held
at
one
of
our
commission
meetings.
Yeah
so
I
mean
again
we
were
doing
the
usual
email
exchange
and
then
it
turned
out.
Something
else
came
up,
so
Kerry
went
to
the
second
one
where
they
talked
about
the
environmental
issues.
Big,
very
clear:
you
know
what
some
of
the
issues
are.
But
again
you
know
we
were
again.
You
know,
because.
B
Chair
Associated
himself,
with
my
comments:
that's
never
happened.
H
C
B
Will
suffer
you
know
because
they
don't
have
gas
if
they
don't
have
gas,
backup
or.
A
Adventures
it's
the
chart,
so
so
you
know
if
the
format's
a
little
bit
different
than
our
usual
just
because
kind
of
lay
out
all
of
the
issues
and
I
wanted
to
also
get
into
their
arguments
that,
because
this
is
seniors
and
they've
got
these,
you
know
requirements
to
run
continuously
and
under
emergency
circumstances,
all
of
which
I
get
and
say.
But
you
know
it
doesn't
necessarily
fly,
but
they
have
to
have
gas.
O
Right
I
mean
that's
a
stupid
argument
that
well,
of
course,
that
no
I
mean
I
mean
it's
it.
It's
just
a
stupid
argument.
Yes,
of
course,
there
has
to
be
backup
power
and
that's
literally
exactly
what
battery
storage
is.
It's
backup
power
I
mean,
and
it
can
run
for
three
days
without
refill,
depending
on
the
size
of
the
battery
pack.
Right,
like
I,
mean
it's
just
a
stupid
argument.
A
O
A
D
I
was
a
professional
word
Smith
for
32
years,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
the
list.
I
said
earlier
about
the
evil
of
the
passive
voice
and
the
very
first
sentence
that
we
want
to
say:
we
recommend
the
project
not
be
approved
rather
than
the
passive
voice.
We
do
not
do
this
instead
say
we
recommend
it
not
be
approved
or
be
rejected.
If
you.
A
It's
clear
that
they
feel
it's
not
a
priority
for
the
residents
of
the
facility,
but
it
is
a
priority,
yeah
and
I
think
they're
playing
on
the
issue
of
while
waiting
for.
We
need
more
Elder
housing.
Sure,
of
course,
I.
Don't
believe
that
we're
offering
any
affordable
housing
in
this
project
that's
going
to
pay
into
the
housing
fund,
like
everybody
else,
does
so
they're
not
really
offering
affordable
housing.
So,
okay,
so
maybe
that
active
voice
commence.
The
application
for
this
and
recommend
does
not
recommend
this
project,
for
approval,
recommends
this
project.
H
It's
not
actually
passive
voice,
but
it's
kind
of
an
indirect
way
of
saying
yeah
right.
C
G
A
N
C
C
A
So
there's
been
a
treat,
maybe
there's
a
few
trees
of
that,
but
I,
don't
think
again.
I
would
think
to
me
the
the
thing
that
makes
the
most
sense
is
a
two-level
parking
lot
and
then
you
cut
the
amount
of
space
that
you
have
parking
and
that
should
open
up
they're
keeping
the
building
flip
again
it's
more
expensive,
but
you
know
and
puts
all
over
the
place.
You
know
they're.
H
C
F
B
F
B
B
C
A
F
B
C
A
Also,
happy
to
you
know:
withdraw
that
comment
allow
the
letter
to
move
forward,
but
maybe,
as
a
policy
of
this
Mission,
could
you
know
try
and
summarize
give
give
people
a
path
to
success.
Even
if
we
don't
like
it
all.
What
they're
currently
proposing
well
I
think
it's
important
if
we
don't
approve
the
project
right
in
particularly
well,
what
is
I
mean?
Basically,
we
actually
don't
say
we
don't
recommend
they
don't
approve
if
they're
at
least
participating
in
the
Green
Building
instead
of
policy.
A
A
That
acquire
the
minimum
to
participate
at
the
base,
Baseline
level
of
the
gbi
that
preferably
commit
to
a
much
more
resilient.
All
highly
energy,
efficient,
all-electric
building.
A
Well,
are
we
desperate
for
this
facility
in
the
county?
Well,
I
mean
it's
not
provided
I
mean
they'll
say
we
need
it.
It's
only
100
beds.
It's
not
that
many!
It's
not
there's
nothing,
affordable!
There's
nothing!
Affordable,
quiet,
apply,
negotiator
yeah,
so
so
does
that
I
mean?
Does
that
kind
of
fix
it
a
little
bit?
It's
just
to
say
you
know,
because
again
we
kind
of
thing
yeah.
Okay,
this
is
maybe
minimal
sustainability
requirements
if
you're
participating.
A
Okay,
dude,
where
the
applicant
to.
B
A
B
Going
to
attach
the
yeah.
A
N
A
D
Can
I
just
go
back
to
the
first
sentence
in
that
last
paragraph,
so
you
know
I'm
new
to
this
whole
commission
thing
and
the
role
of
the
commissions
and
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
commissions
but
we're
the
climate
change
and
energy
commission
we're
not
the
senior
living
Commission.
So
if
they
want
input
from
the
senior
living
commission,
fine,
they
can
get
it
in
a
senior
living
commission
wants
to
say
we
are
invested
for
senior
housing
and
Arlington
County
fight,
and
then
the
board
weighs
the
competing
values.
K
C
D
But
well,
we
don't
even
know
what
they
do
need
to
expand.
Availability,
it's
not
our
ballot.
We
get
our
spirits
on
that.
We
have
not
asked
to
a
behind
on
those
issues
and
so
I
think
we
just
stay
in
our
languages,
the
energy
climate
change
and
environment
plane
and
stay
out
of
Senior
Living.
The.
H
Saying
you
know,
as
we
discussed
already,
that
you
know,
we
must
have
gas
back
up,
because
the
seniors
have
particularly
unique
needs,
etc,
etc,
and
trying
to
make
a
point
that
well
not
only
is
it
not
necessarily
what
we've
said.
H
A
Sentence,
okay,
yeah
I
mean
I,
guess
one
of
the
idea
was
that
it
seems
so
often
in
these
negotiations
that
they
put.
You
know
these
are
all
trade-offs
and
you
know
basically
making
this
is
just
not
it's
not
a
good
trade-off,
maybe
that
the
points
made
above
because
we
say
you
know
what
this
is
good
for
senior
seniors.
Looking
at
these
facilities.
B
G
G
Who
doesn't
want
to
go
down
this
path?
That's
exactly
the
same
point.
You
know
well
the
thing
that
we're
talking
my
business,
my
building
my
residence,
my
whatever
it
is,
you
know,
is
much
more
important
than
this
other
thing.
You've
got
there,
so
yeah
you're
right,
it's
a
political
decision,
but
I,
don't
think
I,
don't
think
it's
incumbent
on
us
are
useful
for
us
too,
support
the
other
side
of
that
argument.
G
B
A
Know
frustrated
because
we
always
seem
like
we-
and
this
is
probably
something
that
we
might
want
to
address
more
in
terms
of
increasing
and
engaging
interactions
with
the
other
emissions
across
the
counties
that
you
know.
Climate
is
actually
Incorporated
and
seen
as
a
benefit
for
all
right
and
and
kind
of.
If
we're
all
in
agreement
that
this
stuff's
becoming
an
issue
of
trade-offs.
G
So
so
you
might,
you
might
end
up
with
this
and
don't
quite
have
a
wording
point,
but
you
might
end
up
following
up
with
an
idea
by
saying
that
the
County's
climate
policy
is
one
that
benefits
all
the
residents
of
the
county
and
that
shouldn't
be
sacrificed
in
favor
of
any
particular
group.
L
Of
food,
so
I
was
chairman
of
a
big
commission
for
three
years.
That
was
constantly
will
the
sacrifice
of
other
other
interests
or
our
narrow
perspective,
which
was
a
statutory
perspective
required
by
the
Commonwealth
of
thinking
actually
and
I.
Think
trying
to
put
you
know,
Little
P
political
statements
through
recognizing
other
values
in
letters
is
not
a
bad
tactic,
and
we
have
to
stick
into
our
analysis.
L
Make
our
points
about
what's
good
for
energy
I,
don't
see
why
it
really
hurts
to
leave
any
language
saying
unless
they're
all
person
senior
announcing,
but
here's
you
know
what
what
is
wrong
so
in
general
I
mean
you
also
don't
think
it's
the
end
of
the
day.
We
take
that
step
out.
I
think
these
these
sort
of
statements
to
soften
the
criticism
that
we're
going
to
receive
that
you
don't
care
about
all
products
is,
is
not
a
bad
thing
to
do.
L
L
A
It's
just
a
thought
that
you
might
want
to
say
that
you
understand
the
special
needs
of
an
assisted
living
facility.
That's
why
I
asked
for
the
specification,
because
they've
got
a
lot
of
medical
equipment.
Medical
equipment
is
always
energy
and
hearts,
but
there
are
alternatives
that
meet
multiple
priorities
of
the
counties
in
providing
for
assisted
living
needing
its
climate
goals,
that
there
are
reasonable
alternatives
for
them,
and
that
way
it
doesn't
pitch
you
against
them.
G
B
F
B
K
B
We
will
pass
and
then
we'll
just
get
through
updates
on
Gary
yeah,
I
I
think
as
probably
know
from.
H
A
previous
update,
Solid
Waste
Management
plan
for
the
next
20
years
has
been
in
the
works,
and
we
met
on
last
week.
Last
Thursday,
the
solid
waste
management
committee.
B
Which
I
chair
as
a
committee
under
c2v2,
expanded
for
the
purposes
of
the
development
of
this
new
Solid
Waste
Management
plan?
We
voted
to
approve.
H
B
Waste
committee
will
meet
again
in
December
to
look
at
the
comments
that
may
have
come
in
and
that's
the
point
at
which
it
will
start
going
more
formally
through
the
county
review
and
approval
process
and
the
hope
and
expectation
is.
It
will
be
ready
for
approval.
I
do
I'm
sure
it
will
be
yeah.
H
B
Done
but
it
is
a
framework
for
about
what
is
required
to
meet
the
state.
The
state
requirements
for
Solid
Waste
Management
plan
and
the
rest
of
it
are
voluntary
measures
to
to
meet
the
zero
waste
resolution
that
was
passed
by
the
Arlington
County
Board
in
25
long
time
ago.
At
this
point,.
H
It
comes
out
and
feel
free
as
Citizens
to
provide
comments
that
we,
as
a
commission
I,
don't
think
we'll
have
another
opportunity
until
it
comes
back
in
December.
F
Get
a
briefing
on
it,
but
it's
coming
back
to
the
solid
waste
committee
to
see
the
public
comments.
Yeah
we're
part
of
the
public.
We
are
part
of.
A
The
public,
that's
why
I'm
inviting
people
to
read
it
again:
forestry
and
natural
resources
master
plan.
At
this
stage
we
wrote
a
letter,
so
in
other
words
you're
saying
we
can
do
it.
I
I
think
so.
I
think
it's
you
know
as
much
as
yeah,
because
otherwise,
where
do
we
have
a
chance
to
weigh
in
would.
A
I
I
strongly
encourage
everybody
on
any
of
these
public
needs
to
go
ahead
and
weigh
in
in
and
provide
your
input
because
you
know,
but
I
think
you
know,
as
a
commission
kind
of.
Hopefully
we
carry
some
more
weight
and
also
we
can
get
to
the
County
Board
to
some
sets
to
give
them
a
little
bit
of
a
heads
up
on
where
we're
going
and
where
we're
thinking
about
these
things.
In.
F
Fact
people
can
do
both
they
can
respond
as
an
individual
and
then
we
can
totally
comments,
concerns
and
then
send
another
letter.
That's.
A
Do
yeah
and
we
can
again,
we
did
some
informal
comments
on
the
first
round.
The
draft
is
probably
going
to
look
pretty
much
the
same,
so
we
can
you
kind
of
look
at
some
of
those
comments
as
well
as
other
comments.
A
H
When
it
comes
out,
I
could
circulate
a
week
or
two
before
our
October
meeting
yeah
collate.
You.
A
B
A
You
want
to
reach
out
to
them.
I
can
do
that
yeah,
sure,
okay,
all
right
kind
of
a
number
of
updates
and
then,
if
anybody
else
has
any
updates.
A
A
But
so
you
know,
and
that
my
proposal
will
be
is
that
going
into
next
year,
I
can
serve
as
Vice
chair
and
then
be
looking
for
somebody
by
the
end
of
March
or
so
who
would
want
to
take
over
as
being
Vice,
chair
and
then
kind
of
work
out
systematically
again,
we
want
to
maybe
transition
transition
fairly
easily
in
the
past,
so
you
know
again
again
getting
that
up-to-date
and
being
part
of
of
the
decision
making
and
planning
process
early
on
again
I'll
be
here
until
a
couple
I
guess.
C
A
A
A
Yeah
but
anyway,
so
that's
kind
of
the
set
is
that
we
will
be
going
into.
We
need
to
come
up
with
our
plans
and
priorities
for
2024
and
approve
those
by
December,
so
it
would
be
good.
You
know
first
kind
of
look
at
what
we
have
up
there
on
the
website
and
maybe,
if
two
people
or
so
can
take
the
lead
of
kind
of
thinking
through
you
know
whether
or
not
we
need
to
change
a
format.
A
We
think
we
got
a
little
bit
more
specific
of
time
tying
together
things
that
we
knew
were
coming
up
during
the
year
to
make
it
a
little
bit
more
specific
in
terms
of
overall
priorities
and
focus
areas,
and
then
there's
always
looking
at
what
are
the
conditions
and
that
that
we're
serving
on
so
with.
B
I
think
we
have
a
good
model
from
this
year,
yeah
to
get
an
update,
so
it
may
not
be
a
incredibly
broken.
You
know,
don't
fix,
what's
not
broken,
but
yeah.
A
Some
things
were
kind
of
specific
in
terms
that
we
knew,
and
we
didn't
know
it
will
probably
be
able
to
get
other
things,
and
one
of
the
things
that
is
coming
up
is
is
that
the
cep
will
be
five
years
old
next
year.
So
probably
time
for
an
update
is
they're.
Thinking
that
you
know,
we
need
a
broader
perspective
of
climate
action,
that
kind
of
captures
and
integrates
all
of
a
lot
of
these.
A
These
issues,
rather
than
the
cep
which
some
things
seem
to
get
a
little
bit
more
narrowly
posted
like,
for
example,
I
mean
the
Solid
Waste
plan
is
a
good
example,
because
they
don't
really
address
kind
of
the
carbon
footprint
of
everything
we
throw
away.
So
you
know,
do
we
want
to
start
thinking
a
little
bit
more
broadly
about
that
be
more
broadly,
but
in
embedded
carbon
in
general.
A
Yeah
folks,
yeah
I
mean
the
carbon
neutrality
goal
looks
good,
but
you
know
taking
more
detail
about
what
that
actually
means
and
focusing
on
some
of
the
things
that
that
we
could
be
I
think.
Hopefully,
people
find
interesting
in
article
I
sent
around
about
some
of
those
other
cities.
That's
great.
So
what
we'll
be
platinum,
I
think
we
can
learn
an
awful
lot
from
these.
These
groups
I
think
that
the
automated
dashboard,
the
greenhouse
gas
inventory,
broken
down
into
sub
sectors,
is
going
to
be
important
too.
A
It
might
be
a
great
reference
to
look
at
because,
because
you
need
granular
detail,
what
are
the
real
sources?
We
have
the
data
updated
now
Beyond
2016,
which
I
think
and
when
will
the
dashboard
be
out
they're
working
on
it
now,
they're,
probably
going
to
beta
test
it
in
October
and
archival,
is
to
happen
public
environment.
N
A
Update
is
the
fine
Langston
Boulevard
is
going
to
be
planning
commissioned
in
the
County
Board
next
month
for
the
request
to
advertise
so
with
this.
Basically
a
two-part
process,
but
I
will
speak
at
the
Planning
Commission
and
I'll
speak
at
the
at
the
County
board
meeting
and
my
is
based
on
what
we
said
in
our
letter.
I
kind
of
prefer
I'm
thinking
of
just
saying
that
we
don't
I,
don't
think
it's.
A
We
don't
think
it's
ready
for
prime
time
unless
they've
changed
it
tremendously
in
the
last
few
months,
kind
of
yeah
so-
and
there
was
a
County
Board
of
weeks
ago,
when
they're
raising
some
of
the
same
I
think
questions
on
vacation
in
there.
So
so
anyway,
I
will
I
will
go
in
and
speak
at
both
of
those
meetings.
A
A
Yeah,
because
what
brought
this
up
is
that
the
County's
now
purchased
several
homes
in
my
near
my
neighborhood
and
it's
for
Overland
relief
and
they
will
be
as
they
talked
about
a
demolishing
those
properties.
I,
don't
know
exactly
what
that,
and
also
around
the
ACC
there's
one
building
they're
planning
on
demolishing
which
I
actually
raised
as
the
County
board
meeting
when
they
talked
about
that
Construction,
so
at
least
getting
them
to
change
the
language
and
that's
it,
but
that
that
actually
should
be
reflective.
I
think
obviously,
but
it's
much
more
than
language.
A
A
C
C
O
Yeah
just
quickly
so
I
I
know
she's
spoken
with
a
number
of
people
on
the
commission,
but
I
was
just
talking
with
Jackie
Snelling.
O
Can't
hurt
I
I
was
just
talking
with
Jackie
Snelling
this
morning.
Can
you
all
hear
me
yeah
yeah
she's
on
the
Civic
Federation
yeah
and-
and
she
was
talking
a
lot
about
an
issue
that
we
we've
mentioned.
Sometimes
here
heat
islands
and
that
and
she
says
it's
something
that
they're
talking
about
in
the
Civic
Federation
and
concerned
about,
and
and
so
it
just
thought,
it's
something
that
I'm.