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From YouTube: Applying the Fundamentals of Urban Design April 6, 2017
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00:00 - Introduction
8:38 - Presentation
55:48 - Discussion
A
A
So
far,
urban
design,
fundamentals
and
best
practices
planning
commissioners
have
really
been
very
interested
in
having
this
kind
of
presentation,
because
I
think
it
gives
us
a
framework
and
an
overview
that
we
can
share
at
sprc
with
the
community
so
that
we
kind
of
have
some
fundamentals.
We
can
base
our
comments
and
questions
off
of
so
I'm
not
going
to
say
anything
more
than
that.
Just
I'm
delighted
to
see
this
happen
soon.
In
the
year
the
last
one
was
december,
and
so
I'm
now
going
to
turn
the
podium
over
to
mr
duffy.
B
B
One
of
the
fundamental
areas
or
aspects
of
arlington's
commitment
is
really
about
how
we
make
great
places
and
the
role
that
urban
design
plays
in
shaping
those
places,
and
we
do
that
through
many
different
ways.
The
planning
commission
plays
a
central
role,
along
with
our
county
board,
as
we
review
various
plans
and
various
applications
for
growth
and
development,
but
we
all
do
it
as
citizens
as
well
we're
all
part
of
this
community
in
arlington,
and
it's
important
from
now
periodically
that
we
have
a
conversation
really
about.
B
B
I
think
you'll
find
the
work
that
staff's
prepared
will
be
both
inspirational
and
will
again
build
our
understanding
and
the
importance
of
the
partnership
that
both
staff,
the
planning
commission,
other
boards
and
commissions
and
citizen
planners
in
the
county,
play
to
make
great
places
and
continue
to
make
arlington
one
of
the
region
and
one
of
the
country's
most
dynamic
places
to
live
work
and
certainly
visit.
So
I'm
very
pleased
to
introduce
chris
kreider,
who
leads
our
urban
design
center.
So
chris.
C
Thank
you
good
evening,
and,
and
I
we
really
do
appreciate
everyone
for
coming,
I
think
just
to
pose
this
question.
You
know
we
all
have
opinions
about
what
good
design
should
and
should
not
be.
The
question
we
need
to
ask
ourselves
is:
how
can
we
move
beyond
expressing
what
we
like,
or
don't
like
about
a
project
and
start
to
describe
why?
What
is
the
recipe
for
a
successful
dialogue
about
design
so
to
assist
our
understanding,
the
fundamental
foundational
elements
and
utilized
in
the
review
of
projects?
C
Tonight's
staff
from
the
planning
division
will
lead
us
through
this
informal
discussion
session.
As
mentioned
before,
this
is
the
second
session,
and,
and
we
and
it's
a
two-parter
part
one
is
dedicating
the
highlighting
the
principles.
C
What
are
the
fundamental
things
that
we
learn
in
architecture,
school,
landscape
architecture
and
so
forth,
that
that
really
become
the
backbone
of
our
of
our
our
mission
and
then
part
two
is
is
an
overview
of
how
we
apply
these
fundamentals
to
projects
in
arlington
and
you'll
start
to
see
the
connection
between
these
issues
that
that
we'll
talk
about
this
will
be
followed
by
a
discussion
that
will
will
hopefully
be
a
lively
and
engaging
discussion
where
you'll
have
an
opportunity
to
ask
our
experts
here
and
to
get
to
share
your
thoughts
about
design.
C
Tonight's
discussion
is
being
taped
and
it
will
soon
be
available
on
our
planning
division
website,
which
will
also
it
and
continue
to
serve
as
a
resource.
There
are
a
lot
of
great
presentations
there,
a
lot
of
good
reference
materials,
best
practices,
county
policies
and,
and
then
this
will
also
be
a
video
archive
for
future
discussions.
C
Let
me
just
take
a
second
to
talk
about
the
urban
designer
research
section.
We
were
formed
three
and
a
half
years
ago,
and
it
was
really
for
the
purpose
to
educate
and
engage
the
community
on
design
serve
as
a
resource
for
the
development
review
staff
consultants,
developers
counter
leadership
and
provide
the
technical
expertise
to
ensure
the
highest
quality
development
is
achieved
in
our
evolving
urban
environment.
C
The
urban
design
section
also
serves
as
a
technical
design
and
data
center.
We
have
an
excellent
research
staff
that
helps
us
with
development,
tracking
and
demographic
data,
and
we
also
do
things
like
this:
engaging
the
public
talking
about
design,
trying
to
keep
the
bar
high
and
and
help
us
understand
what
the
best
strategies
are
for
moving
forward.
C
So
can
we
go
to
the
agenda
real
quick?
C
So,
as
I
described,
there's
two
parts
we'll
we'll
take
approximately
an
hour
to
get
through
those
first
two
parts
and
then
we'll
have
plenty
of
time
for
discussion
next
slide,
so
the
goals
tonight.
This
is
what
we
hope
to
achieve.
C
We
want
to
have
a
community
conversation
about
design
and
we
want
to
provide
you
the
orientation
to
what
are
the
building
blocks
of
good
urbanism,
describe
the
art
of
creating
a
sense
of
place.
We
hear
that
term
a
lot,
but
what
does
it
take
to
create
those
great
places?
Understanding
the
basic
fundamentals?
C
Appreciating
the
variety
of
open
space
experience,
you
know
active
and
passive
spaces
and
and
how
the
the
materials
in
the
hardscape
and
the
softgate
really
contributes
to
that
you'll,
learn
about
the
terminology,
county
policies
and
and
importance
of
solidifying,
the
partnership
between
county
staff
and
you,
the
citizen
leaders.
Hopefully
you'll,
come
away
with
a
better
understanding
of
fundamentals
of
design
and
how
it
serves
to
create
great
places.
C
So
tonight
we
encourage
the
planning,
commissioners
and
other
community
leaders
to
share
their
thoughts
and
ask
questions
about
architecture,
urban
design
and
landscape.
We
also
have
a
survey
that
we
would
like
you
to
complete.
Hopefully
you
picked
it
up
when
you
came
in
and
that
will
help
us
under
refine
our
presentations
and
also
we've
we'd
like
to
hear
your
ideas
about
future
topics.
C
So
we
hope.
In
conclusion,
we
hope
you
come
away
with
a
better
understanding
of
the
fundamentals
of
design,
how
it
serves
to
create
great
places
and
spaces
and
make
us
proud
to
be
part
of
an
ongoing
transformation
of
arlington
county
is
one
of
this
nation's
most
desirable
smart
growth
communities
to
invest,
work
and
live
in.
I
will
now
turn
it
over
to
our
presenters,
justin
falango,
our
chief
county
architect,
brett
wallace,
landscape,
architect
and
principal
planner,
urban
designer
research,
section
and
samia
byrd.
C
Our
site
plan
coordinator
in
the
current
planning
section
samia,
is
a
strong
voice.
Her
role
is
to
prepare
the
excellent
staff
of
the
current
planning
section
to
manage
the
individual
projects
that
come
before
us
and
realize
the
aspirations
of
our
visions
from
our
plans
and
and
bring
that
to
reality.
So
without
samia.
Many
of
our
our
aspirations
we
hold
near
and
dear,
would
never
come
to
fruition.
So
we'll
start
with
justin.
Thank
you.
D
I
think,
if
we're,
if
we're
gonna,
have
a
discussion
about
urban
design,
we
need
to
have
a
common
understanding.
First
of
what
is
meant
by
the
word
urban,
and
I
think
so
this
picture
here
from
new
york
city.
I
think
this
is
something
that
comes
to
mind
when
people
mention
the
word
urban
it.
You
know
they
think
of
this
great
conglomeration
of
development,
a
lot
of
people,
a
lot
of
traffic,
a
lot
of
noise,
a
lot
of
density,
and
that
is
indeed
an
urban
place,
but
someplace
like
this
is
also
very
urban.
D
So
you
know
this
is
a
place
where
there's
a
an
assembly
of
homes,
they're
arranged
in
a
very
intentional
manner.
Together
they
relate
to
one
another.
There's
a
few
spots
there
there's
a
little
chapel
right
there,
there's
a
little
cemetery
right
there
and
so
they're
arranged
around
these
sort
of
common
spaces,
and
so
even
these
you
know
just
these
small.
D
This
little
hamlet,
way
off
in
the
countryside
can
be
also
very
urban
and,
even
indeed
a
single
house,
I
think,
can
be
very
urban,
so
mount
vernon
just
the
way
that
it's
you
know
the
the
road
comes
up
and
and
meets
the
house.
It
creates
a
a
space
in
the
front,
the
dependencies
of
the
main
house
sort
of
arranged
in
a
manner.
D
That's
actually
incredibly
urban
and
very
intentional,
and
I
think
it's
important
to
think
about
what
isn't
urban,
so
density
alone
does
not
make
things
urban
or
just
things
being
close
together,
aren't
necessarily
urban.
You
know
buildings
like
this.
While
you
know
parts
you
know
they
may
serve
functions
in
integral
parts
of
our
community
are
not
they're
in
a
way
very
anti-social.
You
know
the
the
homes
on
the
on
the
bottom
picture.
D
You
know
the
only
thing
you
really
see
are
the
garages
there's
no
real
doors
or
windows,
there's
no
spaces
that
are
framed
by
that
and
the
commercial
building
is
set
very
far
back
from
the
street.
So
there's
no
the
the
implications
for
socialization
and
pedestrians,
and
things
are
not
really
considered
so
now,
what's
urban
design,
so
urban
design
is
a
multi-disciplinary
field.
It
involves
quite
a
few
things:
it
involves
transportation
and
land
use
and
buildings
and
open
spaces
and
landscape,
hydrological
environmental
factors
and
the
placement.
D
Neighborhoods
are
something
that
are
sort
of
the
basic
building
blocks
of
all
great
cities
and
towns
and
there's
something
that
they
really
haven't
fundamentally
changed
very
much
in
hundreds
or
even
thousands
of
years.
The
diagram
on
the
left
is
from
the
architectural
graphics
standards
that
every
architect
has
on
their
desk.
It's
a
diagram
from
1929
by
clarence
perry
and
it
sort
of
outlines
what
the
the
basic
building
blocks
of
a
neighborhood
are.
That's
actually
since
been
updated,
it's
it's
still
in
the
graphic
standards
and
again
it
hasn't
really
changed
a
whole
lot.
D
All
great
cities
are
made
up
of
neighborhoods
paris
has
its
its
famously
has
its
neighborhoods
and
in
arlington
also
has
its
neighborhoods,
which
those
neighborhoods
are
reflected
in
our
in
our
land
use
policies
and
in
our
general
land
use
plan
and
there's
certain
fundamental
things
that
neighborhoods
have
neighborhoods,
have
an
identifiable
center
and
edge.
D
They
have
a
range
of
housing
types,
there's
places
to
eat
and
and
work
and
open
spaces
and
places
to
recreate,
and
so
ideally,
every
neighborhood
sort
of
has
a
little
bit
of
everything,
and
sometimes
the
neighborhood
is
a
little
bit
more
residential
and
sometimes
the
neighborhood
might
be
a
little
more
commercial.
But
generally
you
know,
neighborhood
has
a
range
of
things
in
it,
and
cities
are
also
made
up
of
sort
of
the
building
blocks
of
buildings,
but
they
they're
not
necessarily
on
equal
footing.
So
you
can
have
a
building.
D
That's
made
up
of
all
civic
buildings,
but
you
know
you
need
the
combination
of
the
civic
buildings
and
the
public
or
the
private
buildings
together
that
in
concert
sort
of
make
up
a
city,
washington
dc
is
a
really
good
example
of
that.
So
this
from
the
mcmillan
plan,
you
can
see
that
the
buildings
that
are
sort
of
shaded
in
black
there
are
the
the
civic
buildings.
Those
are
the
important
buildings
and
then
the
buildings
that
are
in
those
blocks
that
are
shaded
more
in
pink.
Those
are
all
the
that's
the
private
development.
D
So
really
I
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
the
enclosure
and
the
intentional
making
of
space,
and
I
think
this
is
really
the
the
most
fundamental
aspect
of
of
urban
design.
So
it's
really
the
the
buildings
are
important,
but
it's
the
most
important
things
really
is
the
space
between
the
buildings
making
up
a
place,
that's
sort
of
comfortable
and
that's
that's
really
very
clearly
defined,
and
so
those
you
know
it
can
range
from
you
see
the
the
upper
left-hand
corner.
D
That's
actually
a
very
narrow
street
from
europe
to
maybe
the
one
up
on
the
upper
right
is
more
of
a
typical
american
main
street,
but
the
thing
that
they,
those
very
successful
places
all
have
in
common
is
they
have
generally
have
pretty
tight
proportions
that
the
buildings,
and
sometimes
often
the
trees,
make
to
create
that
space
one
to
two
or
one
to
one
is
often
a
very
good
good,
a
good
proportion,
if
you
get
any
farther
apart
from
that,
then
you
start
to
lose
that
that
sense
of
enclosure,
in
that
sense
of
space.
D
The
design
to
the
buildings
themselves,
while
there
are
important
factors
that
go
into
you
know,
kind
of
helping
them
re,
reinforce
those
successful
spaces.
You
know
pedestrians
are
very
comfortable
in
these
more
enclosed
spaces,
but
the
design
to
the
buildings
themselves
doesn't
matter
as
much.
You
can
have
something
that's
more
traditional.
You
can
have
something.
D
That's
more
modern,
but
as
long
as
you've
got
that
enclosure
and
the
buildings
are
all
doing
the
right
things,
you're
going
to
have
a
pretty
successful
environment
where
people
want
to
be
another
aspect
to
that
is
sort
of
the
idea
of
having
a
terminated
vista
or
you
know,
to
help
with
enclosure,
especially
if
you
have
like
a
long
street,
you
can
do
that.
This
is
an
example
from
charleston
south
carolina.
You
can
do
that
very
intentionally.
D
In
this
case,
a
church
has
been
placed
that
sort
of
actually
interrupts
the
street,
but
it
can
also
happen
in
a
more
subtle
way.
Maybe
a
street
just
curves
ever
so
slightly
or
there's
a
hill
or
some
kind
of
natural
feature,
that
sort
of
helps
to
create
that
sense
of
enclosure
and
again
there's.
You
know
certain
things
for
commercial
buildings,
for
example,
that
are
very
important.
You
need
to
have
transparency,
as
people
are
walking
by
on
the
sidewalk.
D
They
need
to
be
able
to
see
what's
going
on
inside
the
buildings
sort
of
a
sense
of
activity,
but
also
you
need
some
kind
of
delineation
between
the
pedestrian
realm
and
the
upper
portions
of
the
building
and
there's
a
lot
of
other
things
that
go
along
with
that
signs
and
canopies
and
street
furniture,
and
that
all
kind
of
helped
to
contribute
to
that
and
again
it
doesn't
matter
so
much
if
it's
a
modern
building
or
a
traditional
building.
D
As
long
as
you
have
those
fundamental
building
blocks
right,
then
you're
going
to
have
a
successful
spot
and
the
same
applies
for
residential
buildings
as
well,
so
having
frequent
entrances
out
to
the
sidewalk,
maybe
pushing
back
slightly
from
the
street
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
sense
of
privacy,
but
one
of
the
most
fundamental.
I
think
important
things
to
having
successful
frontages
for
buildings
is
that
they
need
to
be
continuous,
so
the
photograph
in
the
upper
left-hand
corners
from
it's
walnut
street
in
philadelphia.
D
You
can
see
a
pretty
successful
retail
street
there's
a
large
assortment
of
buildings.
They
have
all
different
designs,
but
the
the
thing
that
makes
that
all
possible
you
can
see
on
the
bottom
right
hand,
corner
there's
a
little
aerial
image.
The
red
outline
sort
of
delineates
where
walnut
street
is
the
thing
that
helps
support,
that
is
the
networks
of
alleys
that
actually
run
behind
the
streets
that
help
to
service
those
those
retail
areas.
D
So,
if
you
imagine
the
same
street
interrupted
by
frequent
loading,
docks
and
parking
entrances,
and
things
like
that,
you
start
to
kind
of
lose
that
that
synergy
and
that
that
collective
energy
of
all
those
shop
fronts
close
together.
D
These
so
the
design
of
these
spaces
isn't
something
that
happens
overnight
and
it
doesn't
happen
by
accident
either.
This
is
an
image
from
savannah
from
the
early
1700s,
and
you
can
see
that
if
you've
ever
been
to
savannah
one
of
the
most
famous
things
about
it
is
the
the
the
squares
that
that
it
has
and
they
have
a
variety
of
characters
to
them,
but
you
can
see
so
from.
I
believe
this
is
1734.,
so
right
as
they're
ripping
the
the
the
new
settlement
from
the
wilderness.
D
You
can
see
that,
even
though,
at
the
time
there's
it's
basically
a
single-family
home
subdivision,
but
the
homes
are
actually
arranged
in
a
way.
That's
very
urban
and
you
can
see
the
the
squares
are
actually
already
there.
They're
already
laid
out
and
they're
already
sort
of
ready
to
be
ready
to
be
filled
in
and
ready
to
be
completed,
and
so
over
time
the
city
has
just
gotten
better.
There's
this
aerial
photograph
of
of
savannah
there's,
probably
none
of
the
buildings
that
were
there
back
in
1734
that
are
still
existing
here,
maybe
one
or
two.
D
But,
as
you
know,
each
successive
generation
of
buildings
has
come
in
they've
just
helped
to
further
reinforce
those
plans
that
were
laid
out
hundreds
of
years
ago,
rittenhouse
square
from
philadelphia.
You
know
the
same
same
idea,
very
old
plan.
That's
been
filled
in
over
the
years.
D
D
All
these
are
sort
of
helping
to
reinforce
that
space,
and
this
one
you
know
the
architect
was
just
wanted
to
do
his
own
his
or
her
own
thing,
and
so
again
you
know
the
idea
that
the
buildings
really
all
need
to
be
working
in
concert
to
to
help
to
shape
those
spaces
and,
in
addition
to
those
building
shaping
the
spaces.
It's
also
important
to
think
about
the
design
of
those
the
open
spaces
that
those
buildings
are
framing
and
brett
is
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
E
Before
we
start
getting
into
the
design
of
the
spaces,
we
always
like
to
look
at
comparisons
from
other
areas
across
the
country
or
the
world.
This
is
just
an
example
of
some
other
public
spaces
with
different
acreage
and
we
start
to
identify
what
works
and
what
doesn't
what
fits
in
what
space
and
we'll
get
into
that
detail
in
a
little
bit
in
a
minute.
E
So
again,
you
know,
starting
with
with
scale,
we've
got
everything
from
an
iconic
central
park
in
manhattan
at
843
acres,
all
the
way
down
to
a
small
pocket
park,
only
a
few
blocks
from
central
park
in
new
york
at
4
000
square
feet,
and
what
you
start
to
see
in
both
of
these
images
is
really
how
those
buildings
are
framing
the
spaces
on
all
sides,
but
also,
you
know
the
the
complexity
of
the
amenities
that
are
there
within
those
spaces,
the
trees,
the
movable
furniture
people
and
really
go
a
long
way
towards
helping
create
a
special
place.
E
Once
we
start
diving
down
into
a
public
space,
we
like
to
look
at
what
what
the
anatomy
is
to
create
that
special
place,
and
so
this
is
a
diagram
and
a
picture
from
jamison
square
park
in
portland
oregon
and
what
you
start
to
see
here
is
again
some
of
those
principles
applied
here.
So
we've
got
buildings,
framing
the
public
space
with
windows
facing
onto
the
space
serving
as
visual
surveillance
eyes
on
the
space
we've
got
a
balance
of
passive
and
active
uses.
Here
we've
got
hardscape
on
the
left,
with
a
very
active
water
feature.
E
We've
got
a
more
passive,
green,
lawn,
flexible,
lawn
space
on
the
right
here
and
there's
a
hierarchy
of
paths
that
move
through
the
space,
and
so
all
this
really
works
together
to
create
a
great
space
and
this
this
park
also
pictured
here.
This
is
the
water
feature.
That's
in
the
middle
is
approximately
one
acre
in
size.
E
Another
thing
that
we
like
to
think
about
too,
as
designers
when
looking
at
plans
is
how
do
we
incorporate
active
design
and
recreation
and
healthy
lifestyles
into
our
public
spaces.
A
lot
of
this
involves
a
lot
of
heavy
programming,
but
you
know
planning
out
spaces
that
are
flexible.
That
can
accommodate
this
kind
of
these
type
of
events
is
cr
is
critical
and
again
I
couldn't
have
a
presentation
without
having
a
picture
of
the
high
line
in
new
york.
E
I
know
it's
very
wildly
successful
public
space,
but
this
is
really
about
how
in
urban
design
we're
really
truly
connecting
communities
and,
of
course
this
example
truly
does
repurpose
existing
infrastructure,
the
old
rail
line,
the
high
line
of
course,
was
repurposed
to
a
linear
park
that
connects
multiple
communities
on
the
west
side
of
manhattan
and
we
have
in
the
future
our
very
own
example.
Here
this
is,
or
we
will
have
in
the
future.
I'm
sorry
this
is
the
11th
street
bridge
park
in
washington
dc.
E
The
navy
yard
is
is
to
the
north
here,
and
this
is
anacostia
over
here,
and
so
really.
This
is
an
existing
bridge
today.
That
will
be
repurposed
to
to
create
a
really
great
public
space
again
connecting
those
two
neighborhoods
in
washington
dc.
E
So
again,
thinking
about
repurposing
infrastructure
is
something
we
need
to
consider
when
looking
forward
in
our
planning
efforts.
This
is
another
example
in
dallas
texas,
I'm
going
to
flip
back
and
forth
between
these.
Just
so,
you
can
see
the
the
comparison,
but
really
this.
This
is
the
john
woodall
freeway
and
downtown
dallas
that,
if
you've
been
to
dallas
the
the
arts
district
is
over
here,
and
this
was
really
a
public-private
partnership
to
deck
over
the
the
freeway
and
create
a
really
destination
open
space
and
again
connecting
communities
on
both
sides.
E
And
you
can
see
what
a
difference
it
makes,
and
this
is
a
really
good
example
too.
In
terms
of
the
design,
you
can
see
a
hierarchy
of
paths,
there's
flexible
lawn
spaces,
there's
circulation,
there's
play
spaces
tucked
in
here,
dog
parks
and
other
amenities,
spaces
along
this
edge
active
uses
and
so
that
all
really
works
together
and
we'll
talk
about
some
of
that
detail
on
some
further
slides,
but
really
a
dramatic
effect
here,
but
also
you
know
in
looking
at
our
public
spaces
and
our
public
and
looking
at
our
public
spaces.
E
We
have
to
really
think
about
our
public
realm
and
our
streets
as
public
spaces.
And
so
here
you
have
an
example
of
a
parklet
or
a
pop-up
cafe.
That's
in
the
public,
right-of-way
and
then
cafes
and
sidewalks,
active
sidewalks
with
on
off-board,
cafe,
seating
and
seating
along
the
building
frontage
as
well,
and
you
know,
thinking
about
streets.
We
have
to
think
about
repurposing
those
as
well.
A
lot
of
our
streets
in
the
past
were
designed
for
heavy
traffic,
and
you
know
emphasizing
the
pedestrian
here.
E
This
is
an
example
also
in
new
york,
where
too
much
excessive
asphalt
was
converted
into
a
public
plaza
and
they've
done
this
all
over
the
city.
Other
cities
are
doing
this
too,
but
it's
really
repurposing
streets
street
space
and
turning
it
over
to
the
pedestrian
and
giving
pedestrian
priority,
and
so,
when
thinking
about
street
space,
we
really,
we
think
about
the
public
realm,
and
this
is
really
a
series
of
diagrams
here.
But
I
want
you
to
focus
here
on
the
right.
E
First
is
that
we
think
about
the
ground
plane,
the
sidewalk,
the
building
wall
and
frontage
with
justin
talked
about
briefly
earlier,
the
canopy
overhead
street
trees
and
then
the
roadside.
You
know
whether
that
you
have
bike
lanes
or
street
parking
and
amenities
that
are
along
the
curb
in
terms
of
loading
and
drops
off,
but
we
really
like
to
look
at
this
zone
here.
This
is
really
about
creating
a
pedestrian
and
a
human
scale,
and
good
city
planning
and
design
is
really
about
creating
special
places
for
people.
E
E
You
know
the
building
frontage,
these
zones
for
travel,
there's
a
shy
zone
where
cafe
seating
is
usually
located.
There's
a
spillout
zone
for
people
coming
out
of
retail
and
cafes,
usually
there's
a
clear
path
outlined
here
in
yellow
and
then
the
furnishing
zone
along
this,
the
curbside,
where
again,
where
we
see
street
lights,
trash
can
benches
and
other
furniture
and
utilities,
and
here
you
can
see
an
example
of
that-
a
city
center
in
dc
washington
dc.
So
you
can
start
to
see
the
the
frontage
type
a
lot
of
transparency.
E
We
talked
about
the
canopies,
just
visual
interest
along
the
building
frontage,
but
you
can
start
to
see
the
shy
zone
that
clear
zone
and
the
furnishing
zone
here
on
the
right
and
what
I
want
to
point
out
about
this
picture.
You
start
to
think
about
different
materials
and
how
different
paving
helps
to
define
those
spaces
as
well
and
in
streetscape
design.
There's
a
lot
of
things
we
have
to
be
considerate
of,
and
you
know
we're
learning
lessons
every
day.
But
you
know
this
example.
E
Details
like
this
is
what
we're
looking
at
all
the
time
when
we're
looking
at
streetscape
and
in
terms
of
streetscape
furniture
depending
on
the
the
district.
You
know
we
like
to
create
a
consistent,
cohesive
family
of
street
furniture
again,
so
that
everything
relates
to
one
another.
It
feels
intentional
and
it's
not
piecemeal,
and
so
this
is
just
an
example
from
the
roslin
business
improvement
district
streetscape,
some
of
the
furnishings
they're
considering
and
you
know.
E
So
again,
these
are
things
that
are
happening
below
the
pavement
that
we're
looking
at
throughout
the
design
process.
This
is
just
another
example
of
structural
cells
that
support
pavement,
so
the-
and
this
is
an
example
of
this
going
in
the
ground.
These
are
plastic
crates
that
support
the
pavement
above
both
pedestrian
and
vehicular
loads,
but
also
allow
for
uncompacted
soil
below
grade
so
that
the
roots
can
spread
out
and
eventually
create
healthy
large
trees.
E
Streetscapes
are
also
a
way
to
intercept
stormwater.
We've
got
a
lot
of
stormwater
rags
and
we're
looking
at
how
we
can
capture
and
treat
stormwater
runoff
from
the
street
and
the
sidewalk.
This
is
an
example
from
washington
dc
in
the
noma
district
and
looking
at
native
plantings,
low
impact
development.
We've
got
cafe
seating,
clear,
pass
identified
here,
pervious,
paving
and
other
materials
on
the
sustainable
pallet
there
for
that
project.
Now
this
is
a
diagram
of
canal
park.
E
In
dc,
it's
over
in
the
navy
yard
near
the
nationals
ballpark
it's
it's
comprised
of
three
city
blocks:
it's
not
fully
developed.
Yet
this
is
a
concept
plan
that
shows
future
development
on
the
east
side.
But
this
is
really
a
truly.
You
know:
productive
landscape.
There's
a
lot
of
infrastructure,
a
lot
of
things
happening
below
grade
where
future
buildings
as
they
come
in
the
rain
water,
is
going
to
be
harvested
and
reused
to
irrigate
the
landscape
and
flush
toilets
during
the
winter
time.
E
There's
a
an
ice
skating
ribbon
here
and
during
the
summertime,
that's
removed
and
it's
a
water
splash
pad
for
children
to
play
in
there's
flexible
lawn
spaces.
You
can
start
to
see
here
in
this
diagram
this
aerial
perspective.
This
is
that
splash
pad
the
this
is
converted
into
an
ice
skating
rink
in
the
winter.
E
There's
a
cafe
here,
helping
to
activate
this
space
here
on
the
corner
of
m
street
and
there's
flexible,
lawn
and
event
space
that
can
be
programmed
to
support
some
of
those
events
that
we're
showing
earlier
so
again
a
lot
of
things
happening
below
grade,
but
also
at
gray.
We
start
to
think
about
materials
and
how
everything
starts
to
come
together
and
when
we
think
about
paving
and
design
and
and
texture.
E
This
is
really
a
great
example
of
how
a
paving
pattern
is
a
reflection
of
the
pattern
of
the
building,
so
the
designers
here
you
know
the
building
was
there.
First,
this
plaza
was
renovated
and
really
took
inspiration
from
the
the
geometric
pattern
on
the
building
and
and
really
reflected
that
down
into
the
plaza.
You
can
start
to
see
that
here
in
this
close-up
image
on
how
that
creates
a
dramatic
effect.
E
You
know
in
an
urban
environment
environment
with
people
looking
down
on
the
space
from
their
office,
building
on
the
20th
floor
or
people
within
the
space
and
even
within
the
space,
you
can
start
to
see
how
the
planting
and
the
design
starts
to
create
these
outdoor
rooms.
There's
movable
furniture
and
it
really
starts
to
create
a
sense
of
enclosure
in
this.
Otherwise,
mostly
hardscape
plaza.
E
This
is
another
great
example:
a
collision
of
of
a
constructed
environment
with
a
natural
one
and
use
use
of
materials
and
landscape.
The
the
paving
it
almost
looks
like
the
the
rock
outcropping
and
the
planting
here
was
here
first
and
they
paved
up
against
it.
But
it's
just
another
example
of
how
we
can
look
at
our
man-made.
E
You
know
constructed
environment
and
nature
and
and
express
that
in
our
designs,
a
lot
of
times
we
when
we
talk
about
open
spaces
and
and
here
in
arlington,
we
talk
about
active
versus
passive
open
spaces,
and
this
is
a
is
a
good
example.
We
have
some
other
comparables
in
arlington
in
the
second
part
of
this
presentation,
but
this
is
an
example
in
battery
park
city,
where
we
have
a
passive
lawn
space
here
and
then
one
passes
through
this
rock
outcropping
and
tunnel
to
a
more
active
side
of
the
park.
E
E
We're
going
to
go
to
that
in
a
minute
and
again
thinking
about
the
different
seasons:
seasonal
interest
in
the
landscape.
We've
got
a
water
feature
here.
You
know
how
that's
used
in
the
summertime
versus
how
it's
perceived
in
the
winter
time.
It
really
creates
a
dramatic
effect
with
the
snow
here
things
that
we
need
to
consider
in
terms
of
seasonal
interest
in
hardscape,
but
also
in
the
landscape.
E
We
like
to
look
at
plants
and
species
during
our
site
plan
review
process,
but
even
post
review,
we're
looking
at
landscape
plans
to
ensure
that
we're
selecting
the
right
plant
species
that
create
the
most
dramatic
effect.
This
is
an
example
from
the
lurie
garden
in
chicago
near
millennium
park,
but
you
know
this
is
a
really
great
design,
a
way
that
the
design
the
landscape
architect
used,
salvia,
which
blooms
in
the
early
early
summer.
E
It
creates
a
dramatic
effect
with
a
purple
wave
running
through
the
landscape
and
so
thinking
about
different
seasons
and
plant
species,
as
we
as
we
look
at
these
landscape
plans
is
what
we
do
on
a
daily
basis
and
thinking
more
about
the
ground
plane.
You
know
looking
at
lighting
in
a
different
way.
We
have
to
think
about
these
public
spaces,
how
they're
used
at
night.
How
do
we
animate
the
ground
plane
at
night?
And
this
is
just
another
example
of
how
you
can
achieve
that.
E
Another
example
of
creative
ground
plane
design
here
is
at
dilworth
park
in
philadelphia.
This
is
city
hall.
This
was
a
renovated
plaza.
It
was
completed
a
couple
years
ago,
but
the
septa
subway
line
runs
below
the
plaza.
It's
mostly
hardscape,
but
again,
this
one
is
programmed
to
be
a
water
fountain
during
the
summer
and
I
believe
they
do
an
ice
skating,
rink
here
as
well
in
the
winter
time.
E
This
is
a
plan
diagram
of
the
plaza
and
so
the
orange
and
the
green
represent
the
subway
lines
below
the
plaza,
and
so
the
designers
work,
with
an
artist
to
create
a
lighting,
interactive
lighting
display
so
that
when
the
trains
pass
underneath
the
plaza
it's
reflected
in
in
light
in
the
plaza
at
night
and
so
just
other
creative
ways
to
to
animate
the
ground
plane
and
create
interesting
public
spaces,
and
so
with
that
we're
going
to
move
into
the
second
part
of
the
presentation.
This
is
an
example
here
in
arlington
of
pentagon
row.
D
Make
no
small
plans,
I
think
we,
as
americans
have
actually
done
a
pretty
good
job
of
making
very
bold
plans
for
for
cities
and
towns.
In
particular,
you
know
for
the
you
know:
cities
and
towns
that
we
may
never
actually
live
to
see,
come
to
fruition
really
for
future
generations
and
in
arlington
we're
really
good
at
making
plans
too.
D
We
have
you
know
all
of
our
a
range
of
sector
plans
that
we've
update
quite
often,
and
they
all
incorporate
all
these
elements
that
brett
and
I
have
talked
about
in
terms
of
good
urban
design
practices.
You
know
they
usually
start
with
some
kind
of
illustrative
plan.
You
know
a
community
vision
about
what
what
we
want
to
see
happen
over
time.
D
But
really,
you
know
we
can
make
lots
of
plans
and
we
can
have
beautiful
renderings,
but
there's
those
the
plans
really
really
can
never
come
to
full
realization
without
the
private
development
that
sort
of
comes
along
and
helps
to
fill
that
in
and
samia's
gonna
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
importance
of
of
the
private
investment
in
our
in
our
visions.
G
G
So
there
are
a
couple
of
phases
of
that:
there's
concept,
phase,
there's
preliminary
phase
there's
a
final
stage
and
then
once
something
is
considered
and
reviewed
and
approved
by
the
county
board.
There's
a
post
review
process
as
well
and
throughout
these
processes
staff.
The
community
work
with
the
developer
to
ensure
that
the
plans
are
in
compliance.
G
What
they're
proposing
and
also
look
at
some
of
those
details,
as
we
typically
require
that
they
submit
architectural
plans,
engineering
plans,
landscape
plans
and
a
lot
of
the
things
that
were
raised
previously
and
that
were
outlined
are
discussion
points
with
the
community
and
also
things
that
staff
in
their
expertise,
their
professional
expertise.
Look
at
evaluating.
So
we
look
at
the
streetscape.
We
look
at
the
open
spaces.
We
look
at
the
building
design.
G
G
We
want
to
look
at
some
of
the
examples
and
some
of
the
ways
that,
throughout
the
process,
we
continue
to
work
with
the
developer,
to
kind
of
fine-tune
those
details
to
make
sure
we're
achieving
the
vision
and
the
goals
that
we
set
forth
and
adhering
to
a
lot
of
the
principles
that
we've
established,
that
we
want
to
see
and
how
we
want
to
see.
Arlington
county
develop
out
in
these
corridor
areas.
E
So
this
is
the
metropolitan
park
development
over
in
pentagon
city.
It
was
a
phase,
development
site
plan
project
and
it's
it's
almost
complete
and
what
you
can
see
here
is
it
really
is
holding
true
to
all
the
principles
that
we
just
discussed
in
terms
of
the
building
placement
and
framing
of
the
open
space.
It's
really
a
great
open
space.
E
It's
not
programmed,
I'm
not
sure
how
well
utilized
it
is
other
than
by
the
residents,
but
it's
a
successful
example
of
how
we've
you
know
can
use
all
these
urban
design
principles
to
really
create
a
great
place
here,
and
it's
coming
to
reality
here
in
pentagon
city
and
just
to
the
north
of
that.
E
This
is
the
pin
place
pdsp
project,
which
is
unbuilt
currently
vacant
land,
and
this
is
just
to
the
north
of
met
park,
and
I
wanted
to
walk
through
some
of
the
diagrams
and
design
and
plan
thinking
that
we
went
through
in
terms
of
the
the
master
planning
and
creation
of
that
pdsp
and
design
guidelines.
But
again,
as
you
can
see
in
these
diagrams,
we
started
with
looking
at
blocks
and
streets.
How
can
we
break
up
that
large
tract
of
land
and
create
a
street
network
and
developable
footprints?
E
For
example,
we
always
start
to
look
at
the
context.
What's
around
there?
What
what
are
the
amenities
within
those
public
spaces?
We
look
at
long
bridge
and
virginia
highlands
and
other
pentagon
row
to
the
the
west
and
look
at
what
what
amenities
are
in
those
public
spaces
and
to
help
us
inform
what
we
might
want
to
see
in
the
future
here
at
penn
place
and
for
one
open
space,
the
12th
street
plaza
so
met
park
is
to
the
south.
E
This
is
the
really
the
the
first
impression
if
you
will
to
pin
place
really
envisioned
as
an
active
retail,
more
of
a
hardscape
plaza,
but
we
started
to
look
at
other
examples
in
arlington
county.
So
we
look
at
penrose
square
phase,
one
that's
complete
and
the
size
which
is
comparative,
and
you
know
to
the
12th
street
plaza
and
then
we
look
at
pentagon
row
and
welburn
square
in
boston.
E
We
start
to
look
at
what
kind
of
programming
what
kind
of
amenities
are
in
these
spaces
that
again
will
help
inform
what
we
might
envision
in
the
future
and
then
within
those
spaces.
Once
we
determine
the
scale,
we
want
to
understand
scale
of
of
those
amenities
that
we
might
want
to
see
here.
So
whether
or
not
we
want
to
see
basketball,
courts
or
or
other
large
playing
fields
or
other
play
features
again,
we
have
to
come
back
to
scale
and
looking
at
comparisons
and
just
understanding
the
size
of
certain
things.
E
Before
we
start,
you
know
on
the
drawing
board.
This
is
just
a
diagram
again
of
pin
place,
so
this
is
12th
street
here
to
the
south,
and
a
lot
of
the
things
that
came
up
during
the
public
discussion
and
community
process
was
how
do
we
really
get
people
into
the
interior
of
the
park
to
the
north?
If
all
the
activities
here
on
12th
street?
What
can
we
do
to
really
activate
this?
This
part
of
the
open
space,
and
so
there's
this
strong
axis?
E
E
That's
really
serves
as
a
terminal
vista
which
justin
outlined
earlier,
but
really
a
way
to
draw
people
into
the
site,
and
then
how
are
things
organized
off
of
that
central
axis?
So
we've
got
flexible
lawn
space
to
support
programming
and
events.
There's
planting
design.
There's
children's
play.
That's
situated
right
next
to
the
cafe,
so
you
can
get
a
drink,
a
cup
of
coffee
or
what
have
you
and
watch
your
child
play?
There's
you
know
again
the
cafe
on
as
serving
as
that
terminal
vista
and
then
moving
on
to
boston.
E
This
is
a
project
example
that
was
approved
a
few
years
ago.
This
is
the
marymount
university
project
and
this
is
really
an
example
of
a
project
where
we
worked
very
hard
with
with
not
only
the
applicant
but
the
sprc
planning
commission
to
take
this
design
from
what
it
looked
like
when
we
first
got
it
shown
in
this
image
here
to
this
image
here,
which
is
the
final
approved
project
by
the
county
board
and
again
focusing
on
the
open
spaces.
E
You
know
environment
here
with
plantings
and
a
lot
of
historical
references
and
which
you
can
see
here
in
this
rendering
and
I'll
go
into
some
of
those
details,
but
just
an
example
of
what
we
do
as
staff
when
we
get
a
project
like
this,
you
know
initial
reactions.
We
we
meet
with
the
applicant
we
meet
with
the
chair
of
the
sprc,
we
put
together
staff
comments,
and
sometimes
we
put
together
diagrams
like
this
about
how
do
we
respect
circulation
and
respond
to
pedestrian
flows
through
the
project?
E
How
do
we
use
landform
and
topography
and
landscaping
to
create
a
three-dimensional
landscape
and
create
some
outdoor
rooms
and
sense
of
enclosure?
How
do
we
use
color,
texture
and
scale
within
the
space
to
create
visual
interest
through
paving
lighting,
landscaping
and
furniture,
and
so
we
we
look
at
precedent
images
all
the
time.
I
shared
these
images
earlier,
but
it's
funny
because
we
actually
use
these
same
images
to
inspire
the
applicant
and
the
in
the
design
process
to
look
at
how
we
can
use
landscapes
to
help
to
create
spaces.
We
looked
at.
E
How
can
we
salvage
and
reuse
some
of
the
panels
from
the
the
previous
blue,
goose
building
that
sat
on
the
site,
the
marymount
university?
E
And
how
can
we
reuse
that,
if
not
in
the
architecture
in
the
landscape-
and
so
we
work
with
the
applicant
sprc
and
halrb
and
historic
preservation
staff
to
really
get
them
to
incorporate
this
blue
element
in
the
architecture
in
the
the
will
be
the
future
blue
goose
cafe,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
for
marymount
that
fronts,
onto
the
plaza
using
blue
architectural
materials
and
even
into
the
landscape
and
the
walls
again,
creating
a
three-dimensional
landscape,
there's
blue
tiles
and
then
creating
historical
markers
using
the
blue
panels?
E
And
again,
this
is
all
organized
in
the
in
the
plaza,
and
so
this
is
just
an
example
on
the
left
is
the
plaza
what
it
looked
like
when
we
we
initially
received
it
and
again
you
can
see
the
excessive
amount
of
hardscape
this.
The
second
iteration
revised
concept
a
lot
more
green
space,
but
you
know,
as
you
could
see
in
that
previous
diagram,
not
really
respecting
circulation
through
the
space,
and
then
this
is
the
approved
design
that
we,
ultimately
the
county
board
approved
and
it's
under
construction
today.
E
I
believe
it's
almost
complete,
but
it's
coming
to
life
and
again
just
another
example
of
an
area
without
a
plan
and
just
using
our
own
expertise
and
urban
design
to
create
a
great
place
and
we're
looking
forward
to
seeing
that
be
completed.
Another
example
here
is
on
columbia,
pike.
E
E
One
of
it
is
complete,
and
so
the
village
center
site
is
here
to
the
west
on
the
corner
of
george
mason
and
columbia
pike,
and
this
is
an
image,
a
close-up
image
of
the
illustrative
plan
showing
what
that
future
village
square
should
look
like
at
the
time
when
the
plan
was
developed,
and
this
is
an
image
from
the
regulating
plan
in
the
columbia
pike
form-based
code.
E
This
is
the
building
and
the
the
future
squares
colored
here
in
green,
so
we're
taking
these
plans
to
this
level
so
we're
we
went
through
a
extensive
public
review
process
with
the
community,
the
advisory
working
group
at
the
forum
based
code,
and
so
this
is
columbia.
Pike
on
the
left,
south
georgia,
mason
drive.
E
This
is
really
in
contrast
to
penrose
square.
Pinrose
is
very
hardscape.
There's
a
lot
of
paving
there's
water
features.
This
was
really
meant
envisioned
as
more
of
a
green
oasis
on
columbia
pike.
So
a
lot
of
the
green
that
you
see
here,
rather
than
it
being
lawn
space.
It's
really
native
plantings,
like
meadow
meadow
style,
planting
landscape
design,
more
naturalistic
with
some
flexible
spaces
for
gathering
there's
a
main
entrance
at
the
corner.
There's
some
topography
issues
here
that
were
very
challenging
that
we
work
through
to
create
an
accessible
entrance
here
at
the
corner.
E
There's
retail,
fronting
it
with
cafes,
seating,
there's
active
edges
and
spaces
to
really
get
out
and
experience
the
landscape
and
there's
also
some
public
art.
That's
planned
for
this
space
as
well,
and
here's
just
another
diagram
of
the
same
space.
You
know
showing
the
variety
of
different
seating,
like
we
talked
about
earlier
of
fixed
seating,
cafe,
seating,
movable
seating,
just
to
provide
a
variety
of
different
seating
opportunities
for
the
the
square.
D
The
realized
roslin
plan
envisioned
a
new
18th
street
corridor
running
basically
as
a
as
the
spine
running
through
roslyn
meant
to
be
mostly
a
pedestrian
street,
and
so
one
of
the
first
projects,
in
addition
to
central
place,
one
of
the
first
projects
that
came
in
that
was
going
to
help
to
start
to
envision
or
actually
realize
that
that
vision
for
a
new
18th
street
corridor
was
1401,
wilson
boulevard,
and
so,
when
that
came
in
for
for
redevelopment,
this
was
the
initial
proposal
that
was
put
forth.
D
You
can
see
that
there's
two
towers
here.
The
18th
street
quarter
basically
runs
north
or
north
or
east
west.
Sorry,
in
this
manner,
and
while
the
the
building's
actually
you
know,
the
separated
buildings
do
sort
of
make
that
space
and
they
do
open
up
the
the
view
corridor.
There's
a
lot
of
things
that
the
initial
proposal
didn't
do
it
didn't
do
a
particularly
good
job
of
of
allowing
pedestrians
to
actually
sort
of
circulate
down
through
the
site.
D
There's
sort
of
this,
this
convoluted
network
that
you
sort
of
had
to
navigate,
and
then
this
long,
very
narrow,
stair
running
sideways
through
the
site
that
then,
you
know,
landed
next
to
a
a
parking
entrance.
It
wasn't
necessarily
the
most
graceful
design
so
kind
of
taking
a
look
at
that
and
looking
at
what
the
the
realized
roslyn
plan
was
showing.
D
We
made
some
sort
of
a
counter
proposal.
If
you
will
for
how
we
thought,
maybe
they
could
use
their
design
but
start
to
maybe
massage
it
a
little
bit
to
open
it
up
and
to
get
a
little
bit
closer
to
what
what
the
the
vision
was.
D
So
this
was
a
sketch
that
brett
and
I
had
worked
on
at
the
time
as
you
can
see-
sort
of
more
direct
pedestrian
passages
through
the
site,
sort
of
wider
staircases,
that
kind
of
spill
out
onto
nash
street
and
also
sort
of
open
up
more
onto
the
plaza
above,
and
so
what
the
the
ultimately
approved
plan
was
a
little
bit
closer
to
this.
D
So
not
quite
what
we
had
you
know
looked
at,
but
again
does
a
better
job
of
kind
of
opening
that
up
and
and
further
reinforcing
the
idea
of
of
18th
street
as
this
pedestrian
spine,
that's
running
through
roslyn,
I
guess
another
another
quiz,
as
everybody
know
where,
where
this
is
show
hands
much
fewer,
this
is
in
roslyn.
This
is
center
part.
D
What
sorry
I
I
meant
arlington!
This
is
center
center
park
at
potomac
yard.
D
This
is
another
example
of
sort
of
a
plan
that
over
time
has
has
started
to
fill
in
the
the
open
space
incorporates
public
art
a
lot
of
interesting
plantings,
a
lot
of
different
spaces
for
different
kinds
of
interaction,
and
as
of
right
now
you
can
see
the
the
aerial
image
here
is
to
see
how
sort
of
the
initial
sketches
from
the
pdsp
have
started
to
to
fill
in
and
actually
in
fact,
we've
got
the
additional
buildings
that
are
going
to
be
coming
in
soon
for
the
next
two
land
bays
there.
D
Other
things
that
our
plans
look
at
is
things
like
historic
preservation
and
so
the
in
the
clarendon
plan
and
through
our
historic
preservation
policies.
D
It
was
envisioned
to
save
some
of
these
retail
frontages
here
when
this
building
came
in
in
clarendon,
and
so
in
fact
you
know
that
when
that
got
got
built,
that
was
something
that,
because
the
the
plan
called
for
it
and
our
policies
called
for
it.
That
was
something
that
was.
It
was
sort
of
looked
after
to
make
sure
that
that
happened,
and
it
was
incorporated
fairly
successfully
into
the
design.
D
This
is
just
an
example
from
penrose
square
on
columbia
pike.
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
you
know
just
because
we
generally
know
what
the
best
planning
practices
are
and
we
look
around
at
a
lot
of
other
examples.
We
can
never
really
stop
looking
at
the
things
that
we're
doing
to
to
see
what
the
built
results
are
and
to
study
them
and
to
see
really
what
the
what
we
can
learn
from
them
and
how
we
can
improve
over
time.
So
this
was
a
study
that
was
done
by
staff
of
penrose
square.
D
Just
kind
of
examining
you
know
what
are
the
different
elements
of
the
space?
How
do
people
use
it
at
different
times
of
day?
Where
are
people
sitting?
What
kind
of
activities
are
they
doing?
You
know
if
they're
the
weather's
good,
the
weather's
bad?
How
does
that
affect
how
people
use
the
space?
So
we
kind
of
always
like
to
look,
even
though
you
know,
when
things
get
done,
we
still
like
to
go
back
and
look
at
them
and
figure
out
what
we
can
do
better
as
we
move
forward.
D
So
with
that,
I
think
we'll
open
it
up
for
discussion
and
questions.
C
C
A
Thank
you
for
the
presentation
is
very
engaging
and
helpful.
Is
this
on
it's
on?
So
when
you
began
you,
you
gave
us
the
widest
context
that
that
you
could
to
explain
the
some
of
the
fundamentals
and
then
you
sort
of
drill
down.
A
So
I
appreciated
that
what
I
think
you
see
a
staff
when
a
project
comes
in
an
application
comes
in.
You
do
start
with
that
kind
of
context,
but
by
the
time
we
get
to
sprc.
A
That's
not
always
quite
clear
and-
and
I
I
guess,
I'm
thinking
that
it
would
be
really
quite
helpful
if
the
presentation
staff
presentation
of
a
project
might
give
a
summary
of
that
prior
thinking
and
even
the
the
discussions
that
you
had
had
with
developers.
Real
quick,
the
the
rittenhouse
square
example
stands
out.
So
if
that
the
building
that
was
caddy
cornered
to
the
square,
it
was
kind
of
stood
out
as
a
an
oddity,
and
maybe
it
does
maybe
it
doesn't.
A
B
Well,
let
me
thank
you,
commissioner,
for
the
comment.
Let
me
just
just
lead
off.
I
think
staff
provided
some
really
great
examples.
B
I
think
have
occurred
in
the
last
five
to
ten
years,
where
I
think
we've
really
started
to
embrace
and
employ
these
principles
that
that
both
brett
and
justin
laid
out
tonight
and
the
case
studies
that
that
both
justin
and
brett
discussed
the
evolution
of
some
of
staff's
thinking,
I
think,
was
evolving
the
same
time
as
we're
going
through
the
site
plan
review
committee
process,
hearing
from
community
members
planning,
commission
members
of
their
boards
and
commissions.
B
So
many
of
the
the
images
that
staff
presented
tonight,
weren't
developed
at
the
preliminary
submission
or
even
before
the
submission
was
accepted
and
where
we
trigger
and
begin
the
site
plan
review
committee
efforts.
So
as
we
work
with
the
planning
commission,
the
site
plan
review
committee
work
with
the
applicant
work
with
the
community,
and
I
think
it's
important
to
note,
and
you
start
to
touch
on
this.
It
has
been
a
partnership
in
arlington
county
between
all
those
parties.
B
I
think
to
realize
some
of
these
great
plans
and
some
of
these
public
spaces
that
are
now
becoming
information,
so
you're
right.
We
need
to
be
able
to
communicate
early
and
often,
but
I
think
what
you've
seen
and
it
didn't
really
come
through
many
of
those
plans.
Let's
take
the
18th
street
concept
that
evolved
over
a
number
of
months
as
the
site
plan
review
committee
process
proceeded.
So
I
think
everyone
benefits
from
that
public
part
of
the
process
and
and
the
the
roles
that
we
all
play,
but
again
each
process.
B
Each
project,
as
the
planning
commissioners
know,
are
very
different
and
each
have
their
own
challenges
and
and
success
stories.
C
G
So
one
of
the
things
I
think
is
important
to
note
is
that
it
really
is
a
role
of
staff
to
kind
of
balance,
the
developers
proposal,
what
they've
submitted
the
sprc
and
public
review
process,
as
well
as
internal
staff
and
interdepartmental
technical
reviews
as
well
to
kind
of
bring
everything
together
and
so
a
lot
of
times.
As
bob
mentioned,
all
of
these
things
are
kind
of
evolving
at
the
same
time
and
we're
trying
to
balance
all
of
those
different
comments.
G
The
input
and
working
with
the
developer
as
well
to
try
to
make
sure
that
we're
achieving
the
goals
and
objectives
that
set
forth
in
the
plan
and
where
there
are
places
that
it
does
not.
Or
there
are
areas
there
where
we
need
to
continue
to
work
to
improve
those
hearing
from
the
community
and
then
other
technical
experts
internally,
trying
to
make
sure
we
can
work
with
them
and
work
with
everyone
to
bring
everything
together.
And
so
it
really
is
more
of
an
evolution
at
the
time
that
the
project
is
coming
for.
H
Hi,
thank
you
first
I'd
like
to
thank
you.
It's
really
useful
to
to
take
us
up.
You
know
from
where
we're
generally
looking
at
plans
we're
looking
at
curb
cuts
and
parking
spaces,
and,
and
so
it's
really
nice
to
go
up,
5000
feet
and
kind
of
look
at
the
context,
because
I
don't
know
that.
H
I
don't
know
that.
I
always
do
that.
Of
course,
I'm
a
newer
commissioner.
I'm
still
learning
now.
Having
said
that,
you
had
a
very
interesting
slide
and
just
out
of
curiosity,
there
was
one
scale
of
design
elements
that
you
had
shown
us
and
all
I'm.
What
I'm
wondering
is
is:
is
there
some
sort
of
a
cheat
sheet
that
we
could
be
because
it
was
very
useful
that
you
had
you
know
the
sizes
of
things
and
sort
of
how
they
how
they
relate
and
how
they
fit
together.
E
Sure,
in
fact,
our
department
of
parks
and
recreation
has
a
cheat
sheet,
but
it's
mostly
focused
on
recreational
courts
and
playing
fields:
bocce
courts,
things
of
that
nature,
baseball
diamonds,
not
a
lot
of
the
amenities
that
you
typically
see
in
urban
environments.
There
are
some
in
there,
but
a
lot
of
it
really,
you
know,
involves
going
out
in
the
field
visiting
these
places,
and
you
know
with
the
tape
measure
or
you
know,
when
you're
traveling,
just
taking
note
or
photographs,
and
referring
back
to
those
we
think
about
like
bryant
park
in
new
york.
E
We
always
think
about,
I
feel,
like
everybody
uses
as
an
example
when
they
show
us
a
public
space,
but
there's
so
many
different
activities
within
that
park.
Some
of
them
are
pop-up,
some
of
them
are
permanent
and
yes,
there
are
some
dimensions
out
there
on
on
the
internet
that
you
can
get
to.
We
don't
have
a
cheat
sheet
for
all
those,
but,
like
I
said,
our
parks
and
recreation
department
has
some
more
recreational
style
dimensions
that
we
could
share
with
you.
C
Why
is
that
in
so
important?
And
and
what
are
some
examples?
I
guess,
where
the
failure
to
create
that
sense
of
enclosure
is
really
a
challenge
to
creating
that
sense
of
place.
D
Again,
I
think
it's
it's
about
being
social,
and
so,
if
you
have,
you
know,
if
you
have
a
series
of
buildings
that
are
enclosing
a
space
within
fairly
close
proximity,
it's
you
know,
there's
eyes
on
that
space
and
you
sort
of
feel
it's
sort
of
an
engaging
space
as
opposed
to
you
know
if
you're,
just
in
a
a
very
wide
street
or
in
a
big
open
parking
lot
where
you
can't
necessarily
see
the
faces
of
other
buildings,
or
I
guess
it's
in
a
way.
D
It's
almost
like
you
know,
some
people
make
the
analogy
that
buildings
are
like
people
and
I
think,
if
you
think
of
it,
that
way,
you
know.
Is
it
comfortable
to
stand
in
the
middle
of
a
room,
and
everyone
is
like
way
in
the
distance
but
they're
like
looking
at
you
from
far
away,
or
would
you
rather
be?
You
know
within
close
proximity
to
other
people
where
you
can
actually
see
their
face
and
have
a
conversation
with
them?
D
F
I
am
resident
of
farlington
where
I've
lived
for
25
years
and
before
that
the
boston
corridor,
which
is
undergoing
massive
redevelopment
near
glebe
road.
F
If
you
want
to
know
where
that's
taking
place
right
now,
so-called
car-free
diet
look
at
the
intersection
of
wilson
and
glebe.
Look
at
the
intersection
of
washington
and
glebe,
look
at
the
intersection
of
fairfax
and
glebe
thousands
and
thousands
of
vehicles
packed
into
as
little
space
as
possible
in
a
so-called
car-free
diet.
F
B
Jim,
thank
you,
and
I
I
know
you
have
a
you,
have
a
very
clear
and
strong
opinion
and
and
that's
important
that
we
all
have
those
opinions.
One
thing
you
mentioned
was
time
and
and
in
the
presentation
that
staff
made
tonight
while
we
talk
about
physical
elements
of
urban
form
and
urban
design
and
how
they
sometimes
evolve,
and
what
today
certainly
makes
great
places
how
they
all
work
together.
B
The
one
I
think
theme
throughout
all
of
that,
though,
is
time,
and
if
you
look
back,
we
showed
images
of
how
savannah
began
and
how
the
the
yearly
plan
laid
out
a
basic
sort
of
infrastructure,
if
you
will
of
public
spaces
and
streets
common
themes
throughout
really
sound
american
planning.
B
I
think
we've
learned
through
that
early
sort
of
renewal
and
redevelopment
phase
that
was
tied
to
the
first
wave
of
metro
investment
and
again
without
metro.
We
wouldn't
be
here
tonight,
probably
here
talking
about
great
urban
design
and
urban
planning
for
many
reasons.
So
there
was
this
early
phase.
B
You
saw
the
penn
place
center
park.
Roslyn
plaza
has
some
major
new
public
spaces
in
its
long-term
plan,
so
we're
still
in
early
phase,
I
think,
of
of
place
making
at
many
of
our
metro
jim.
If
you
get
your
chance
we're
at
a
very
early
stage
of
of
I
think,
creating
a
great
urban
environment
here,
but
again,
I
think,
is
some
of
the
plans
pointed
out.
B
I
Thanks
yeah
jason,
you
had
a
nice
slide.
Example
of
the
the
public
space
analysis.
I
think
it's
a
terrific
idea
and
you
said
penrose
square.
I
was
just
curious.
Is
that
an
ongoing
program
or
you
got
a
do?
We
have
a
work
plan
for
doing
this
and
picking
out
some
other
places,
because
I
can
see
some
not
only
the
more
recent
ones.
We've
done,
but
just
even
going
back
more
than
10
or
15
years
to
see
what
those
those
good
choices
or
mistakes
were
yeah.
D
There
was
a
couple
other
spaces
that
we
looked
at
water
park
was
one
of
them
and
I'm
trying
to.
Can
you
help
remind
me
what
the
other
ones
were?
It's
not
necessarily
an
ongoing
it's.
You
know
when,
when
there
is
some
time
to
sort
of
work
on
that
kind
of
stuff,
we
sort
of
go
out
and
like
look
at
stuff
and
examine
it,
but
no
it's
not
necessarily
an
ongoing
program,
but
we
did
look
at
a
couple
other
spaces.
We.
C
That's
that's
it's
post-occupancy
evaluation
is
the
technical
term
and-
and
I
think
it's
it's
really
important
because,
as
we
look
at
these
new
site
plans,
we
look
at
what
are
the
lessons
learned.
Where
are
men
sitting?
Where
are
women
sitting
where
at
different
times
a
year,
you
start
to
observe
human
behavior,
because
these
public
spaces
are
really
for
the
benefit
of
the
people?
It's
it's.
It's
building
that
place
for
for
people
to
gather
to
rest.
If
you
look
at
courthouse
today,
people
just
go
back
and
forth
through
the
parking
lot.
J
Thank
you
very
interesting.
Overall.
I
was
particularly
interested
in
the
evolution
of
the
open
space
at
the
blue
goose
one
of
my
favorite
buildings
no
longer
there,
but
I
I
like
the
memorialization
of
it,
and
part
of
that
is
because
it
seems
to
me
that
all
of
virtually
all
of
the
spaces
that
we
deal
with
as
open
space
are
privately
owned
and
that's
particularly
painful
for
those
of
us
who
live
in
crystal
city
where
the
county
owns
two
median
strips,
one
of
which
is
going
to
go
away
soon
and
that's
it.
J
So
everything
we
are
at
the
mercy
of
developers
and
that's
not
necessarily
a
bad
thing,
but
it
does
mean
that
anywhere,
where
there's
a
plan
that
calls
for
open
space
and
is
conceptual,
that's,
that's
not
good
enough
and
developers
have
come
in
with
open
space
that
may
adhere
to
the
the
letter
of
the
concept
plan,
but
completely
lack
creativity
or
any
of
the
elements
of
the
urban
design.
J
Open
space,
enclosure,
outdoor
room
eyes
on
the
street
concept
is
lacking,
and
so
I
think
more
than
what
as
jane
referred
to
some
of
the
basic
concepts
coming
in.
I
think
it's
really
important
that
a
staff
report
maybe
address
that
up
front
and
just
say
there
are.
You
know,
maybe
that
maybe
it's
just
a
few
bullet
points
of
basic
guidelines
so
that
those
of
us
who
are
looking
at
a
development
submission
can
say:
okay
technically
it
has
the
square
footage
required
or
suggested
by
a
plan
and
in
the
right
space,
a
location.
J
And
since
it's
not
county
owned
and
county
controlled,
it's
even
more
important
that
these
guidelines
be
adhered
to
and
that
in
order,
particularly
because
there's
never
been
a
development
that
I've
spent
35
years
looking
at
that
has
ever
come
through,
as
is
without
some
sort
of
concession
required
and
in
in,
and
I
think
that
the
way
we
deal
with
open
space
and
other
community
amenities
ought
to
be
tied
to
making
sure
that
it's
a
genuine
bonus
for
the
community.
B
Well,
judy
thanks
for
the
question
and
well
a
little
bit
of
a
statement,
and
but
I
think
the
point
is
well
taken
and
I
I
think
what
we
need
to
continue
to
do
as
a
community
is
ensure
that
our
professional
staff,
our
planning,
commission,
our
civic
associations
and
and
and
residents
and,
most
importantly,
the
developer-
have
the
kind
of
working
knowledge
and
understanding
of
what
these
principles
that
we've
talked
about
tonight.
So
I
think
we
we've
learned
a
number
of
good
lessons.
B
I
think-
and
I
think
we're
trying
to
deploy
as
much
as
staff
has
discussed
tonight,
and
I
think
we
have
some
success
stories
in
the
last
number
of
years.
I
think
you
saw
some
of
them
tonight.
B
I
think
some
of
them
deal
with
the
phase
development
site
plans,
whether
it's
pentagon,
city,
rosland,
plaza
or
several
other
examples
where
we've
been
able
to
think
about
multiple
buildings,
phase
development
and
how
public
spaces
the
street
network
and
those
elements
come
together
will
come
together
over
time,
and
I
think
it
will
continue
to
take
time
for
for
many
of
these
objectives
to
be
realized
but
you're.
So
right
we
have
to
be
committed
and
vigilant
and
and
be
focused
on
all
the
points
that
you've
raised
and
we're
committed.
Certainly
to
do
that.
C
Yeah,
I
think
too,
that's
why
this
urban
design
and
research
section
was
created
because
we
have.
We
have
the
talent
these
guys,
we've
all
worked
in
the
private
sector.
We've
worked
for
those
developers,
we
understand
how
they
think.
We
also
have
a
very
high
bar,
and
I
think
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
that
we
are
striving
for
is
to
build
a
relationship
and
give
you
the
community
the
tools,
because
you
serve
as
our
allies.
C
In
this
conversation,
if
we
can
help
you
express
the
terms
that
we've
been
talking
about
and
have
those
expectations
you
become
the
advocate.
It's
it's,
you
know.
As
samia
talked
about,
we
have
an
important
role
to
balance
everything,
but
I
think
the
the
role
of
the
community
is
to
really
explicitly
describe
their
expectations.
So
it's
not
back
to
I
don't
like
this
or
I
wish
it
was
something
else.
C
It's
starting
to
use
this
terminology
and
I
think
that's
the
language
that
the
the
developers
understand-
and
I
think
that's
part
of
what
we're
here
to
do-
is
to
not
only
express
that
but
also
engage
the
community
and
help
you
understand
and
and
do
a
better
job.
If
you
will
to
advocate
for
the
visions
that
the
community
created
and
that's,
I
think,
the
beauty
of
the
process
that
we
have.
While
it's
laborious,
you
know,
as
they
say,
rome
was
not
built
in
a
day.
C
Dc
was
not
built
in
a
decade
and-
and
I
think
that
the
county
has
done
a
fabulous
job
of
establishing
the
vision.
It's
the
implementation
is
where
the
road
gets
a
little
rocky,
but
I
think
the
examples
you
saw
where
we've
applied
it
and
really
stead
steadily
worked
through
that
process.
We've
had
some
great
success.
K
Thanks
very
much
for
the
presentation.
The
question
I
had
is:
it
seems
like
a
lot
of
this
was
sort
of
learning
from
the
past
and,
looking
at
historical
examples,
I'd
be
interested
to
hear
you
know
a
multi-disciplinary
view
of
an
opinion
of
the
future
trajectory
and
innovations
that
you
think
you'll
see
in
open
spaces
in
the
next
10
to
20
years.
B
Well,
let
me
kick
it
off
from
the
from
the
planning
perspective.
You
know
I
talked
about
time
and
the
phases
that
arlington
has
gone
through
is
fairly
recent,
less
than
50
years
from
more
of
an
herb
renewal
phase
where
it
was
still
car
centric,
even
with
metro
on
the
horizon,
and
we
evolved
in
80s
and
90s
to
begin
to
embrace
some
of
these
principles.
B
And
now
one
of
the
fundamental
areas
that
we
focus
on
are
what
you
saw
tonight,
and
we
saw
some
recent
examples
again,
the
last
five
or
ten
years,
columbia,
pike,
rosslyn
and
so
on,
where
I
think
we're
we're
retrofitting
and
pressing
back
on
some
these
plans
and
so
we're
now
entering
a
phase
in
ro
in
arlington.
B
Let's
take
the
roswell
and
boston
corner,
for
example,
you
saw
the
slide
that
samia
bird
had,
which
showed
our
five
metro
station
planning
areas-
and
you
saw
most
of
them-
are
filled
up
by
these
tan
areas,
which
are
the
site
plans.
Almost
every
block
urban
block
is
covered
by
a
site
plan.
We
have
over
450
of
those
site
plans,
large
percentage
of
them
in
the
roslyn
ballston
corridor.
Many
of
them
date
back
sevilla
to
the
to
the
870s
80s.
I
think.
B
So
they
so
what
we're
going
to
see
next
in
a
new
wave,
I
think,
is
refurbishment
adaptive,
reuse,
redesign
and
redevelopment,
and
in
preparing
for
that
next
generation
of
transit,
oriented
developments
and
place
making
in
arlington
we're
going
to
think
about
what
changes
might
take
place
to
some
of
his
existing
public
spaces.
We
have
a
park
and
rec
commission
here
tonight
who
really
did
an
outstanding
job
recently
to
sort
of
do
a
survey
of
what
those
spaces
are
today,
what
conditions
they
are
and
so
on
and
so
based
on
some
work.
B
We're
going
to
inventory
recognize
what
conditions
govern
those
and
then
based
on
some
principles.
You
saw
tonight
develop
some
urban
design
principles
and
guidelines
to
help
our
planet
commission
park
and
rec
to
begin
to
think
about
as
those
spaces
change
how
we
can
work
again,
either
as
a
county
or
with
the
private
sector
to
ev
to
evolve
those
adapt
those
to
make
the
even
better
make
them
into
a
network
and
ensure
that
they
provide
a
number
of
these
principles
that
justin
and
brett
talked
about
tonight.
B
So
we're
going
to
go
through
that
phase,
I
think
of
change
and
growth
and
we're
gearing
up
to
apply
many
of
these
principles
that
you
see
here
today.
E
Yeah
I
was
going
to
mention
one
trend,
that's
happening
now
and
it's
extremely
popular
is
just
testing
out
ideas
with
temporary
pop-up
improvements.
E
Some
of
the
examples
we
showed
tonight
in
new
york,
where
they've
reclaimed
street
space
and
turned
it
into
pedestrian
plaza
space,
which
is
some
temporary
materials,
low,
cost
relatively
easy
to
install
they
test
it
and
then,
if
it
works
and
trap,
you
know
folks
get
used
to
it.
Then
they
then
invest
in
it
in
their
capital
program
and
turn
it
into
a
permanent
plaza
but
testing
ideas.
We
did
that
outside
here
at
courthouse,
with
a
pop-up
plaza
on
15th
street
right
at
the
entrance
to
the
the
parking
lot
here.
E
If
you
haven't
seen
it
again,
we
don't
know
how
long
it's
going
to
be
before
we
have
a
courthouse
square,
but
in
the
meantime
we
wanted
to
reclaim
some
an
unsafe
area
for
handicapped
parking
and
relocate
that
to
a
safer
location
and
we've
turned
it
into
a
pedestrian
plaza.
We've
coordinated
with
an
artist
to
create
a
ground
mural
and
there's
landscaping
and
movable
furniture
out
there,
and
it's
been
successful
so
far.
E
We
did
it
in
eight
hours
with
paint
and
some
potted
plants
and
some
furniture
relatively
cheap
and
easy
to
install,
and
it's
been
a
huge
success,
but
I
mean
again
that
whole
pop-up
nature
of
things
testing
ideas
before
we
start
investing
a
lot
of
funding
into
public
spaces
is
a
trend
at
the
moment.
G
We'll
see
a
lot
of
projects
come
in
for
some
of
the
interim
types
of
uses
or
some
things
that
they
can
do
with
the
existing
buildings
that
bob
mentioned,
like
adaptive,
reuse.
So,
for
example,
we
had
the
we
work.
We
live
project
in
crystal
city
and
and
trying
to
understand.
Are
there
some
interim
uses
for
some
of
these
projects
or
these
sites?
That
would
be
appropriate
until
such
time
as
they
are
ready
for
the
full-scale
redevelopment
or
that
real
real?
That
full-scale
redevelopment
is
incentivized
to
the
point
that
we
would
actually
start
to
see.
B
Know
this
element
of
time
again
just
came
up
in
what
brett
and
samia
discussed.
Another
good
example
of
an
interim
sort
of
tactical
urbanism
is
planners
nerve
designers
like
to
call
it
sometimes
is
over
the
property.
The
triangle
on
wilson
that
the
korean
embassy
provided
the
county
with
the
opportunity
to
transform
a
fairly
unused
parking
lot
into
today.
B
What's
a
very
cost
effective
multi-use
sort
of
park,
people
play
bocce
people
have
lunch,
there's
seating
working
again
with
the
county's
real
estate
office,
working
with
the
embassy
working
with
park
and
recreation,
our
urban
design
and
planning
staff.
You
know
we're
able
to
do
things
like
that
and
again
over
time.
We
need
to
try
to
apply
these
principles
in
the
most
cost
effective
way,
but
recognize
they
start
to
prime
the
pump
and
get
us
moving
in
the
right
direction.
So
the
more
that
we
can
do,
I
think,
it'll
be
extremely
valuable
for
the
county.
L
The
comment
is
that
oftentimes
in
meetings
I've
been
to
terms
active
and
passive
have
been
used
in
reference
to
different
kinds
of
open
spaces,
and
I-
and
you
know
that
may
have
been
in
the
textbooks
for
50
years,
but
I
think
it
sort
of
creates
a
problem
as
much
as
it
frames
one,
and
that
is
because
passive
implies
that
it
does
nothing
and
therefore
it's
less
valued
and
therefore
open
spaces
that
are
not
structured,
can't
compete
against
all
of
the
various
interests
in
an
urban
area,
and
yet
we
know
now,
of
course,
that
and
I'm
sure,
through
the
later
decades.
L
You
know
it's
being
taught
that
unstructured
spaces
are
at
least
as
important,
perhaps
more
important,
because
all
of
hardscape
is
structured.
So
if
you've
got
anything,
that's
got
a
blade
of
green,
that's
really
critical.
So
it
would
seem
to
me
that,
just
as
a
matter
of
of
sort
of
common
parlance,
you
know
that
ought
to
get
out
of
the
that.
That
terminology
ought
to
be
deposed
and
some
I
don't
know
whether
it's
programmed
and
unprogrammed
or
structured,
unstructured.
Whatever
I'm.
B
It
certainly
is
great
observation
and
really
good
question
and
a
timely
one.
You
know
when
we
talk
about
passive
versus
active.
B
I
think
the
county
is
now
working
on
really
an
important
planning
effort
that
our
park
and
recreation
department
is
leading
and
many
of
the
staff
up
here
tonight
are
participating
and
that's
our
new
public,
open
spaces
master
plan
and
I
think,
you'll
see
as
the
staff
is
now
beginning
to
bring
that
out
to
the
community
and
talk
more
about
it
as
part
of
the
process
you're
going
to
see
they're
trying
to
address
some
of
those
very
issues.
How
do
we
deal
with
these
more
urban
spaces
and
other
spaces?
B
You've
raised
between
what
I'll
call
an
urban
natural
area
and
four
mile
run
with
hard
edges
a
mix
of
different
uses
connectivity
through
pedestrian
in
other
ways.
So
I
think
it's
your
your
question
again
is
very
timely
and
I
think
it's
an
important
area
we're
working
on
now,
but
I
think
the
county's
long-range
plan
that's
coming
forward
is
going
to
give
us
more
direction
in
that
area.
M
Hi
bob,
I
think
that
you're
right
panelists
are
right,
that
the
roslin
boston
corridor
is
those
buildings
from
the
60s
through
the
80s
are
ripe
for
being
redone.
That
should
be
an
opportunity
for
us.
We
have
some
streets
that
are
still
really
pretty
bad,
for
example,
quincy
street,
in
ballston,
between
fairfax
and
and
wilson
big
towers
on
all
sides,
except
for
the
szechuan
walk.
M
Have
these
big
towers?
You
have
a
very
wind-swept
empty
sidewalk
area.
The
street
proportions
seem
to
be
off
for
the
traffic
that
goes
on
it
compared
to
the
sidewalks
and
then
the
height
of
the
buildings
around
it.
It
doesn't
really
work
very
well
at
all.
It's
not
very
open
and
welcoming,
even
though
it's
very
dense
and
urban
we
also
are
in
our
toolbox
now,
for
animating
streets,
of
course,
is
retail
in
many
ways.
M
Boston,
of
course,
is
very
dense.
Retail
seems
to
make
sense,
but
we're
going
through
a
nationwide
change
in
that,
in
that
retail
space
is
going
to
be
shrinking
we're
over
stored,
and
I
know
we
have
alternative
what
we
consider
alternative
retail
uses,
but
I'm
not
sure
even
that's
going
to
be
enough.
M
We're
going
to
have
to
be
looking
at
getting
these
streets
better
designed
after
the
first
generation
showed
it
didn't
work,
but
we
don't
have
the
same
tools
to
keep
them
animated
that
we've
used
in
the
past.
So
when
we
have
a
street
like
quincy,
when
it
does
come
for
time
for
being
redone,
we
have
to
find
ways,
and
I
don't
it's
a
question
more
of
an
observation
and
a
challenge.
M
D
Sure,
well,
I
think
that's
a
it's
a
really
good
point
and
I
think
in
a
lot
of
ways,
sometimes
we
have
looked
to
retail
as
being
the
only
solution
for
activating
streets,
and
I
think
it
can
be
done
with
other
uses
as
well.
I
mean
a
residential
street
can
be
incredibly
active
as
well.
I
think
a
lot
has
to
do
with
the
design
of
the
building.
Specifically
I
mean
if
the
you
know,
the
buildings
are
designed
in
such
a
way
that
they're
meant
to
engage
with
the
street
that
they
either
have.
D
You
know
if
they're
larger
buildings
and
they
have
balconies
or
porches
that
are
facing
onto
the
street
or
small
door
yards
for
townhouses.
Things
like
that,
and,
as
I
mentioned,
you
know,
frequent
entrances
to
units
as
opposed
to
just
having
one
entrance
to
a
building.
Maybe
that
is
the
only
entrance
on
the
block
that
doesn't
really
do
a
lot
to
to
help
to
activate
it.
So
I
I
certainly
think
that
there
are
other
uses.
Every
use.
Building
use,
I
think,
is
perfectly
capable
of
helping
to
make
the
street
social
and
active.
D
C
Justin,
I
have
a
follow-up
question:
you
you
were
working
in
the
private
sector
and
helped
us
develop
the
the
columbia,
pike
corridor
and
form
based
code
and,
more
recently,
you
just
did
a
session
a
couple
weeks
ago.
Looking
at
the
buildings,
what
trends
are
you
seeing
in
the
architectural
profession
today
that
might
sort
of
lead
us
to?
D
Well,
I
think
I
mean
in
general,
I
feel,
like
design
professionals
are
being
more
cognizant
of
buildings
that
are
engaging
with
the
street.
You
know,
I
think,
that
by
nature,
buildings
are
much
less
suburban
than
they
used
to
be
so
you
know
the
like
I
mentioned
you
know
just
frequent
doors
and
windows,
and
things
like
that
are
now
part
of,
I
think
the
common
vocabulary
of
architects
and
designers
as
they're
coming
up
with
concepts
for
for
sites,
whereas
in
the
past
that
wasn't
necessarily
the
case.
D
You
know,
I
think
previously,
sometimes
the
the
the
overall
design
concept.
As
you
know,
the
building
as
a
sculpture
sometimes
often
trumped
the
the
responsibility
of
the
building
to
be
a
good
neighbor.
So
I
think
in
that
sense
you
know
buildings.
You
know
whether
you
know
you
like
the
designs
or
not.
You
know
specifically
of
the
materials
and
things
like
that.
I
think
generally,
the
the
trend
is
that
the
buildings
are
are
being
more
social.
N
Thank
you
bob.
I
appreciate
you
talking
about
time.
Some
of
us
in
this
room
have
been
around
in
this
business
long
enough
to
recognize
the
the
importance
of
time.
I'm
not
I'm
not
sure
how
good
the
county's
doing
with
it,
though
it
seems
I
I've
noted
on
many
occasions.
N
We
we
we
we're
tearing
down
things
that
were
built,
maybe
close
to
that
25-year
limit.
That's
that's!
That's
considered
antique
for
cars,
but
not
not
it
not
for
historic
purposes.
Here
we've
had
some
losses
and,
and
that
and
and
I'm
not
talking
about
building
but
talking
about
things
that
you
know.
Why
did
that
go
away?
Why?
Why
are
we
losing
a
bridge
in
boston?
Why
did
we
lose
one
in
principal
city
both
which
which
were
iconic
and
good
good,
strong
references?
N
N
I
I
I'd
like
to
see,
I
said
I'd
like
to
see
the
lamp
holes,
whether
they're
made
out
of
fiberglass
or
a
moment
dated,
so
that
we
have
some
appreciation
for
or
because
time
is
a
dimension
that
that
that
that's
just
not
a
part
of
our
thinking.
I
think
when
we
do
it
here.
An
interesting
thing
is,
is
that
bryant
park
is
about
time.
N
It's
about
it's
about
the
the
creation
of
of
us
of
public
spaces
that
are
flexible
enough
to
have
to
be
popped
up
all
over
the
place
to
to
to
adapt
to
time
changes
in
time
by
uses
we
actually,
the
original
plan
for
welburn
square
was
a
miniature
bryant
park
and
it
was
and
that
some
people
thought
that
it
just
wasn't
modern
enough
or
fixed
enough,
or
it
was
maybe
too
plain,
and
yet
I
think
we
would
have
been
better
served.
F
N
And
gateway
park
is
a
good
gateway
park
in
roslyn
is
a
very
good
example
of
that.
There
just
are
elements
there
that
work
work
wonderfully,
but
nobody
goes
and
sees
them
work
on
movie
night
or
whatever
it
is
they
and
and
and
what
you're
talking
about
in
terms
in
terms
of
a
creative
adaptation
and
the
economies
and
things
of
the
time
it's
good,
I
mean
that's
that
that's
going
to
bring
out
and
empowering
people
to
go,
do
stuff.
We've
been
talking
about
this
for
a
long
time.
N
We
keep
running
into
roadblocks
for
for
power
people,
but
all
of
these
are
our
functions
actually
functions
of
time.
I
think
we
should
think
we
should
think
in
terms
of
of
of
appreciating
that
sense
and
how
and
what
and
building
in
opportunities
for
time
to
to
to
to
to
enrich
spaces.
O
Thank
you.
I
I
very
much
appreciated
the
slides,
justin
and
brett
that
that
you
were
showing
concerning
some
things
that
were
built,
for
instance,
the
study
about
penrose
square,
and
I'm
wondering
for
for
you,
two
and
and
for
samia
as
well
thinking
somewhat
about
some
of
our
conditions
and
things.
O
Hate
using
that
word
times
as
and
our
residents
when
we
come
to
around
the
sprc
table
and
we
see
an
applicant
come
in
and,
for
instance,
they
want
to
put
residential
units
right
on
the
street
and
we
know
how
that
doesn't
work
in
clarendon,
but
we
think
it
might
work
at
red
top
at
the
different
designs.
And
so
you
know
I
look
to
you
guys
to
sort
of
tell
us
or
either
at
that
table
or
offline
with
the
developer.
O
You
look
this
work,
this
didn't,
you
know,
drop
that,
and
so
I'm
wondering
you
know,
have
you
guys
want
you
to
give
up
any
secrets,
but
do
you
have
your
little
cache
of
sort
of
do's
and
don'ts
and
things
you're
thinking
about
the
next
time?
You
see
this
proposal
what
you
would
recommend
justin
do
you
want
to
start.
D
Sure
I
mean
for
me,
there's
after
after
a
sight,
plane
gets
built,
I
go
out
and
inspect
the
facades
to
be
sure
that
everything
is
built
according
to
the
way
that
they
were
approved
by
the
county
board,
and
when
I
do
that,
I
usually
look.
D
Not
only
am
I
sort
of
checking
the
the
built
results
against
what
was
approved,
but
I'm
also
kind
of
looking
at
all
the
details
and
I'm
kind
of
seeing
how
new
materials
that
the
architects
and
designers
are
using
actually
look
in
practice
and
I'm
looking
at
how
all
the
pieces
go
together
and
I'm
sort
of
making
like
a
you
know,
I
always
kind
of
keep
a
mental
note
of
like
oh
wow,
that
didn't
really
work
out
so
well
in
this
building.
So
the
next
time
somebody
comes
in
with
that.
D
There
are
certainly
things
like
that
that
I
sort
of
kind
of
keep
a
little
mental
tally
of
some
of
those
different
materials
and
configurations,
and
things
that
I
I
know
that
when
they
come
up
again
in
the
future
that
I
need
to
say
something
to
you
know,
maybe
try
to
persuade
the
developer
to
go
in
a
different
direction.
E
Yeah
I
mean
the
same
holds
true
with
the
landscape
and
some
of
these
hardscape
plaza
spaces.
The
one
difference
with
landscapes
is
that
they're
living
and
they
evolve,
and
what
a
lot
of
people
say
is
that
you
never
really
get
to
appreciate
a
landscape
until
it's
been
in
the
ground
for
10
years,
because
when
things
are
first
planted,
everything's,
young
and
small,
it
doesn't
have
time
to
mature.
E
It
all
falls
back
on
maintenance,
and
so
these
are
all
things
that
we
look
at
when
we're
looking
at
plans,
but
also
when
we
do
inspections
and
post
occupancy
evaluations
like
you
saw
earlier,
but
yeah
it's
really
looking
at.
What's
working.
What's
not
thinking
about,
I
mean
for
one
example,
I
think
of
as
tree
pits
and
people
that
walk
their
dogs
and
then
all
the
ground
cover
and
lush
plantings
in
the
tree
pits
end
up
dying.
E
You
know,
there's
a
solution
to
that
and
that's
putting
a
tree
fence
around
the
tree
pit.
It's
a
little
bit
more
cost,
but
it
does
keep
pedestrians
and
dog
owners
from
using
that
space.
It
also
helps
with
the
health
of
the
tree.
G
I
can
speak
first
to
the
question
that
nancy
raised
about
things
that
you
know.
Maybe
you
see
from
projects
you've
worked
on,
that
you
are
kind
of
caring
for
when
you
work
on
the
next
project.
I
can
think
of
maybe
an
example
or
two
or
more
of
a
couple
of
projects
that
I
worked
on
and
then,
when
I
see
it
built
and
I'm
like
why.
Why
did
we
do
that?
G
That
wasn't
such
a
good
idea-
or
maybe
we
conditioned
something
to
address
a
site-specific
situation
that
worked
for
one
site
and
then
maybe
we
kind
of
try
to
apply
that
to
another
site
that
comes
in
with
a
similar
concept
and
it
doesn't
work
out
so
well
for
them,
one
of
the
things
that
or
maybe
we
improve
upon
it.
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
can
think
about
is
when
we
worked
on
the
zom
project,
which
is
it
was
the
old
hollywood
boulevard
site.
C
I
think
to
this
this
gentleman's
comment
about
the
passive
space.
If
you
look
at
something
like
colonial
place
across
the
street,
they
probably
said
this
will
be
great
passive
space.
It's
certainly
passive,
it's
dead
right,
but
then
you
look
at
the
passive
space
and
colonial
village
right
next
door
and
it's
alive
it's
a
great
place
to
be
so,
I
think
you're
on
something
in
the
sense
that
we
cannot
just
sort
of
allow
these
terms
to
sort
of
take
over
and
be
an
excuse.
C
We
really
need
to
to
apply
the
fundamentals
that
we're
talking
about,
because
if
we've
been
able
to
apply
those
at
colonial
place,
we
would
have
seen
right
away
that
these
little
triangular
shaped
patches
of
green
are
not
really
going
to
be
active
because
they
don't
have
that
sense
of
enclosure.
They
don't
have
the
quality
of
materials
that
we're
talking
about
and,
and
we're
only
getting
better
at
this.
C
D
And
I
think
for
me
personally:
it's
it
is
looking
at
historic
places
because
I
feel
like
you
know,
you
can
actually
see
for
yourself
how
these,
how
these
places
function
and
you
sort
of
get
ideas
from
them,
and
I
think
it's
you
know
I
I
do
feel
like
you
know,
for
citizen
planners,
that's
probably
a
good
strategy.
D
You
know,
go
see
as
many
different
kinds
of
public
spaces
as
you
can
new
ones,
old
ones,
different
types
of
buildings,
how
the
buildings
interact
with
those
public
spaces
in
the
streets,
and
I
think
it
it
gives
you
an
idea
of
not
only
what
works
and
what
doesn't
work,
but
it
gives
you
an
idea
of
what
you.
Maybe
your
personal
preferences
for
things
are
as
well.
D
So
I
mean
I
I
think
it's
you
know
for
for
a
designer
to
to
say.
Oh,
I
don't
really
need
to
go.
Look
at
other
stuff.
I
can
just
come
up
with
stuff
on
my
own.
I
think
it's
you
know,
I
don't.
I
don't
think
that's
necessarily
the
right
attitude
to
have
about
it.
I
think
everyone.
You
know
your
your
ideas
constantly
build
on
other
people's
ideas.
So
you
kind
of
need
that
that
history
and
those
examples
really
to
to
understand
the
implications
of
what
it
is,
that
you're
doing.
E
Anything,
I
guess
for
me,
I
think
you
touched
on
it
earlier.
Chris
is
I
mean
we're
really
creating
these
places
for
people
and
social
spaces,
and
you
know
what
works
for.
You
may
not
work
for
you
and
you
know
having
variety
and
options
in
our
public
spaces
is
important,
you
know
and
that
our
spaces
are
all
inclusive
for
all
ages.
E
Children
and
our
elder
elderly
folks
as
well,
but
you
know,
and
everybody
in
between
all
ages,
and
so
these
are
all
things
we
have
to
consider
when
looking
at
design-
and
it
really
comes
down
to
how
people
feel
in
the
space
and
how
I
feel
may
not
be
the
way
you
feel,
but
that
there's
variety
and
options,
and
it's
not
just
one
one
thing
or
the
other.
You
know
it's.
C
I
think
it
sort
of
brings
up
the
notion
of
empathy
because,
as
an
urban
designer,
we
need
to
think
what
is
this
space
to?
What's
an
experience
from
a
five-year-old's
perspective?
What's
the
experience
from
an
85
year
old
person's
expect
perspective,
so
it's
urban
designers
we
try
and
empathize
with
the
users
whether
it's
it's
someone
who's
pushing
a
stroller,
so
that
we
make
sure
that
that
that
median
is
wide
enough
for
someone
with
a
stroller
to
stand
there
as
they
wait
for
the
signal
to
turn.
C
We
think
about
the
active
person
who's
using
it
for
for
jogging
and
bicycling,
but
we
also
look
at
it
for
somebody
who
just
wants
to
read
a
book,
and
so
as
urban
designers.
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
put
ourselves
in
your
shoes
and
look
at
the
the
wide
spectrum
of
how
people
experience
places
and
I
think
that
helps
inform.
So
my
recommendation
is
next
time.
You're
out
think,
like
a
five-year-old
think
about
how
this
kid
would
experience
this,
what
would
they
be
threatened
by
what
would
they
feel
safe
about?
C
What's-
and
you
talked
about
the
cafe
and
the
relationship
to
the
children's
play
area
at
penn
place,
that's
so
I
can
sit
there
and
have
a
cup
of
coffee.
I
can
also
keep
an
eye
on
my
kids,
so
those
relationships
are
very
important
but
they're
not
accidental,
and
I
think
that's
that's
that's
part
of
what
we
do.
G
And
I
think
my
perspective
as
a
development
review
doing
development
review
as
a
planner
is
certainly
different
from
the
expertise
of
an
architect
and
a
landscape
architect
who
are
designers
by
trade,
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
is
unique
about
the
site
plan
role
is
that
we
sort
of
serve
as
the
intermediary
the
broker
the
person
that
looks
at
the
policy,
the
person
that
looks
at
the
rules
and
the
regulations
and
then
works
with
all
the
expert
staff,
the
community
and
everyone
to
see.
Okay.
G
Now,
how
can
we
balance
all
of
this
out
to
make
sure
that
we're
achieving
everything
that
we
set
out
to
do?
So
it's
a
lot
different
in
that
way,
and
so
we're
looking
at
everything
I
think
at
a
higher
level
more
comprehensively
and
then
relying
on
other
staff
to
end
community
members
and
different
departments
to
kind
of
help
us
to
bring
everything
together
to
a
place
where
we
feel
like
okay.
This
is
a
proposal
that
is
acceptable
bought
for
by
private
developer.
G
That
will
achieve
our
vision
and
our
goal
to
the
greatest
extent
possible,
with
some
balances,
some
checks
and
balances
here
and
there.
And
then,
when
you
actually
see
the
projects
built
and
you
actually
get
to
go
out
and
experience
them,
then
you
understand
the
function
and
the
form
and
the
relationship
and
how
everything
came
together
and
the
significance
of
that
in
terms
of
shaping
a
place
overall,
and
so
I
think,
that's
a
little
bit
of
a
unique
experience
that
I
have
related
to
everything
else
of
how
it
all
comes
together.
B
Just
building
on
what
staff
has
talked
about,
I
think
one
thing
that's
very
important
and,
as
you've
heard
from
the
presentation
tonight,
the
level
of
collaboration,
whether
it's
current
planning
urban
design,
our
great
comprehensive
planning
staff,
we
work
together
as
a
team
with
the
department
of
environmental
services,
real
estate
parks
and
rec.
That's
one
thing
that
I
think
makes
arlington
planning
outstanding
and
why
we
achieve
achieve
some
great
results
and
we'll
continue
to
do
that.
B
Just
two
things:
a
another
plug-in
for
the
county's
park,
master
public
spaces
master
plan,
which
is
now
coming
forward
for
community
review.
I
encourage
everyone
here
tonight
and
everyone
else
in
arlington
to
get
involved.
Look
at
that
plan.
Look
at
its
principles,
understand
its
goals
and
the
strategies
are
laid
out.
It's
a
very
proactive
and
very
strategic
based
planning
effort
and
that's
what
we
need
in
arlington
county
now.
So
this
is
a
time
to
really
share
some
of
the
thoughts
we've
heard
tonight.
B
Some
of
the
ideas
into
that
plan,
because
we
we
have
a
number
of
elements
of
our
comprehensive
plan.
Our
general
land
use
plan,
which
sets
the
stage
in
terms
of
use
our
master
transportation
plan
which
deals
with
the
network,
but
what
binds
it
together
are
those
public
spaces,
it's
more
than
just
parks,
open
spaces
or
plazas.
B
It's
really
this
network
and
for
some
homework.
You
might
want
to
take
a
look
at
what
I
think
a
great
urban
planner
who's.
Now
mayor
de
blasio's
park,
commissioner
in
new
york,
mitchell
silver
is
doing
with
with
the
five
boroughs
and
and
the
planet
in
the
and
planning
and
park
improvements.
There
is
thinking
about
parks
without
borders,
and
that's
really
true.
It
is
a
system
if
you
will-
and
you
saw
some
of
that
tonight
in
the
in
the
presentations
that
brad
and
justin
and
samia
made.