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From YouTube: Missing Middle Housing | Information Session: History & Future of Zoning and Housing Policy
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Call or text your questions to 571-348-3053.
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These
information
sessions
represent
one
of
the
many
ways
for
residents
to
better
understand
perspectives
that
inform
the
missing
middle
housing
study
and
to
engage
with
the
County
Board,
as
we
consider
potential
zoning
changes
for
more
opportunities
to
learn
and
give
feedback
and
to
read
about
previous
input
and
how
it's
been
Incorporated.
Over
the
previous
three
years
of
the
study,
we
encourage
you
to
visit
the
Project's
webpage
now.
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Now
the
most
important
thing
I
might
start
off
with
tonight
is
that
at
this
point
in
the
process,
the
County
Board
has
not
voted
on,
nor
scheduled
consideration
of
any
ordinance
changes.
Our
staff
is
analyzing
potential,
zoning
ordinance
amendments
and
we'll
be
doing
so
throughout
the
fall,
and
we
will
learn
from
both
their
work.
A
Our
current
conversations
with
the
community
and
in
for
information
sessions
like
this
one
as
we
determine
what,
if
any
policy
decisions
are
made
in
the
coming
months
before
we
launch
into
our
session
tonight,
I'd
like
to
provide
some
history
and
background
on
the
missing
middle
housing
study
in
2015
as
part
of
the
affordable
housing
master
plan,
the
county
adopted
a
policy
to
explore
more
housing
options
within
our
single
household
neighborhoods.
To
implement
that
policy,
the
County
Board
requested
that
the
missing
middle
housing
study
be
initiated
in
2019..
A
Now
this
study
is
an
element
of
the
land
use
tools,
pillar,
one
of
six
pillars
that
are
part
of
the
housing
Arlington
umbrella
and
explores
if
varying
housing
types
could
potentially
help
address.
Arlington's,
limited
housing,
Supply
the
choices
that
are
available
to
people
and
the
range
of
prices
that
are
available
to
buyers.
Now,
the
missing
middle
housing
study
began
with
extensive
research
on
our
regional
economic
conditions,
the
history
of
Housing
and
Zoning
in
Arlington,
as
well
as
our
existing
land
use
policies.
A
Last
year,
the
board
asked
staff
to
identify
housing
forms
that,
if
allowed
in
Arlington,
could
possibly
offer
alternatives
to
the
predominant
five
and
six
bedroom
single-family
homes
that
are
being
built
when
older
homes
are
torn
down
and
these
homes
also
sell
for
prices
that
are
Out,
Of
Reach
for
most
households.
Now
the
draft
framework
offered
by
staff
is
intended
to
offer
insights
about
the
possibilities.
A
Let
me
begin
with
an
introduction
of
our
wonderful
guest
that
we
have
joining
us
for
this
conversation
this
evening.
So
I
think
we'll
start
over
here
with
Marguerite
Gooden,
who
is
a
lifelong
Arlington
resident
and
a
retired
administrator
with
Arlington
Public
Schools
having
served
as
an
assistant
principal
as
well
as
a
principal
of
the
new
directions
program
Marguerite
welcome
this
evening.
Thank
you.
We're
also
joined
by
Dr
Shelley
mastron,
who
is
a
professor
at
Virginia,
Tech,
University
and
Dr
mastron.
You
were
the
author
of
a
wonderful,
along
with
some
others,
I
believe
some.
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A
As
you
can
see,
we
have
this
tremendous
group
of
individuals
who
are
going
to
help
us
with
this
conversation
tonight
and
before
we
get
started
I'd
like
to
let
you
all
know
how
you
can
engage
with
this
conversation,
so
we
have
received
some
questions
in
advance
from
people
who
have
been
eager
to
participate.
We
thank
you
for
that,
but
if
you're
tuning
in
right
now,
you
can
also
get
in
on
the
conversation
by
submitting
your
specific
question
via
text
or
by
calling
us
at
571-348-3053.
A
So
why
don't
we
get
right
into
this
conversation
and
Tracy
I'd
like
to
start
with
you?
So
you
know
when
we
think
about
zoning
people
who
looked
at
a
zoning
ordinance,
no
matter
what
the
jurisdiction
will
see,
a
lot
of
letters
and
numbers
and
use
tables
and
overlay
maps
and
all
that
sort
of
stuff?
Yes,
let's
get
beyond
that
and
talk
about
really
what
does
zoning
mean
in
terms
of
the
the
built
environments
or
the
choices
that
people
see
in
a
community
today?
It's.
A
B
I'll
try
to
be
brief
here.
It's
a
long
topic
well,
first
of
all,
Arlington
didn't
have
a
zoning
ordinance
until
1930
and
essentially
that
ordinance
codified
the
land
use
that
was
already
in
place
at
that
time,
which
was
largely
single
family,
detached
white
neighborhoods
and
nearby
African-American
enclaves,
but
definitely
a
segregated
environment.
B
Arlington
didn't
have
a
plan,
a
comprehensive
plan
until
1961
and
that
comprehensive
plan
also
pretty
much
put
into
place
or
didn't
codify.
But
you
know
sort
of
stamped
the
existing
land
use
pattern
in
Arlington,
so
I
would
say
that
for
the
most
part,
Arlington's
Planning
and
Zoning
have
been
reactive,
and
that
really
goes
all
the
way
up.
Until
you
know,
past
Metro
and.
A
Certainly
not
in
Virginia,
yes,
definitely
and
so.
Taken
together,
you
know
zoning
affecting
everything
that
you
see
in
terms
of
not
only
what
what
is
built
physically
but
the
the
choices
that
you
have
for
health
care
services
and
other
Commercial
Services
and
everything
else,
combined
with
this
history
of
Arlington
sort
of
codifying
what
was
during
the
1930s
and
then
sort
of
being
reactive
to
that
gives
us
a
sense
that
really
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
what
we
see
today
has
vestiges
going
back
nearly
a
century
ago.
B
Right
and
also,
let
me
add
that,
although
this
is
not
really
planning
and
zoning
I,
think
two
other
things
need
to
be
mentioned,
and
one
is
that
many
of
the
white
neighborhoods
had
restrictive
covenant,
excluding
African,
Americans
and
others
and
others,
and
we
had
Arlington
County
in
1938,
passed
a
a
ban
against
Row
Housing
because
it
didn't
want
to
be
Urban
too
Urban,
which
you
know
you
could
translate,
that
into
being
something
other
than
that
and
that
wasn't
repealed
until
the
late
60s.
So
there
was
a
ban
against
having
essentially
townhouses
so
so.
A
A
D
Actually,
the
your
explanation
has
really
made
cleared
up
how
the
three
historical,
historically
black
neighborhoods,
actually
were
established
so
solidly
in
Arlington,
County
and
I'm,
from
Halls
Hill
on
the
North
side,
and
then
there's
Johnson,
Hill
Arlington
view
on
the
south
side
and
also
Green
Valley,
and
it
was
as
a
result
of
the
zoning
restrictions.
Jim
Crow,
those
were
the
only
three
places
that
blacks
could
even
purchase
could
live
and,
as
a
result,
growing
up
in
those
neighborhoods
we
found
ourselves.
Our
neighborhoods
were
pretty
diverse
in
terms
of
economics
in
terms
of
building
structures.
D
D
In
the
same
neighborhood,
because
that's
where
that's
the
only
place
we
could
live
and
actually
it
worked
because
the
community
came
together
and
we
all
looked
out
for
each
other
and
that's
how
I
grew
up
and
it
was
quite
an
eye-opener.
You
know
when
I
had
to
go
to
Yorktown
high
school
and
be
the
only
black
in
my
grade
from
sophomore
to
high
school
and
to
see
their
that
Community
was
so
different
from
the
community.
That
I
grew
up
in
and
came
from,
and
it
was
it
offered.
D
Was
in
from
1966
to
1969,
but
my
dad,
who
was
one
of
the
original
Station
8
firefighters
in
1964,
we
had
to
we
moved
from
our
house
to
they
built
another
house,
because
my
mom
had
twins
and
the
house
was
too
small.
So
we
brought
a
piece
of
land
across
the
highway
because
there
were
two
streets
that
were
still
Halls
Hill
but,
and
he
built
a
five-bedroom
home
they're,
one
that
you
know
could
accommodate
us
and
I
can
remember.
D
When
we
moved
there
behind
us,
some
kids
jumped
the
fence
and
came
over
and
they
knocked
on
our
door
and
it
they
asked
my
mom.
They
thought
my
mom
was
the
maid,
because
we
had
a
house
that
was
big
enough
to
accommodate
all
and
it
was
new
and
the
you
know.
I
never
forgot
things
like
that,
but
so
we
had
to
live
the
housing
thing,
I
liked
the
fact
that
we
had
a
pretty
diverse
neighborhood
and
we
learned
to
respect
each
other
and
all
the
families
and
work
together
as
a
neighborhood.
D
Even
though
there
were
the
economic
statuses
were
different
and
there
were
different
types
of
homes
there.
So
you
know
I
I,
think
the
missing
middle
can
work,
but
it
had
to
work
for
us
as
African
Americans,
because
that's
all
we
had
and
it
was
a
way
to
keep
us
and
within
our
the
confines
and
not
integrate
into
other
neighborhoods.
Because
of
the
zoning
issues
that
you
brought
up
and
so
sometimes
I
wonder
if
some
of
the
opposition
still
is
rooted
in
that
concept
or
well.
A
You
know
many
of
and
Shelley
you
mentioned
this
with
the
prohibition
on
row
houses,
but
housing
types,
at
least
for
some
has
been
come
synonymous
with
either
class
or
or
racial
status,
and
so
how
much
does
that
sort
of
influence?
The
conversation
from
you,
your
perspective,
as
you
think,
about
zoning
and
land
use
as
a
facilitator
of
or
barrier
to
mobility
and
opportunity
for
people.
B
B
C
Yeah
I
mean
zoning.
You
know
zoning
can
segregate
by
income
when
you
restrict
when
you
restrict
housing
types
or
restrict
the
number
of
housing
units.
However,
you
want
to
Define
that
you're
going
to
increase
the
value
and
cost
of
what
housing
you
have
so
by
restricting
where
multiple
units
can
go
and
restricting
it
to
single
family
detached
housing,
which
is
not
evil.
I'm,
not
saying
that.
But
if
that's,
if
the
majority
of
your
community
and
in
some
of
our
communities,
it's
70
percent
of
the
residential
property,
is
zoned
single
family
detached
Arlington
assembly.
C
You're
basically
saying
to
some
people
that
we're
not
going
to
let
you
get
into
certain
neighborhoods,
because
you
cannot
afford
them
and
we
can
have
a
long
discussion
about
historically.
Why
certain
you
know
certain
households,
certain
families,
certain
people
have
not
been
able
to
acquire
wealth
enough
to
afford
those
neighborhoods.
But
but
that's
what
you
said
you
said:
I
only
want
this
type
of
housing,
because
I
know
only
certain
kind
of
people
can
afford
it.
C
That
has
resulted
in
America
in
segregating
by
zoning.
Racially
you
know,
because
the
zoning
kept
others,
the
others
out.
Black
people,
brown
people
they're
not
going
to
be
in
these
neighborhoods
now,
because
I
said
no
and
before
the
court
Struck
it
down,
there
was
overt
racial
exclusion.
Zoning
I
mean
it
said:
colored
negro,
here
right
weights.
Here
exactly
correct
courts
struck
that
down.
But
what
did
not
happen?
Is
we
always
remember
this?
While
the
overtness
was
struck
down
the
result
of
that
overtness
was
never
overtly
changed.
It
goes
back
to
what
show
like
that.
C
We
are
living
with
zoning
that
has
been
there
when
people
were
explicitly
saying
I,
don't
want
you
in
my
neighborhood
right
it
and
and
the
Court
decisions
and
the
Fair
Housing
Act
fixed
a
lot
of
the
other
things
like
you
know.
You
can't
Redline
insurance
issues,
blah
blah,
but
it
didn't
it
didn't
change
or
address,
or
look
at
it
analyze
what
it
was
really
doing.
Let's
call
it.
C
Let's
say
that
the
underlying
zoning,
which
was
left
as
it
was,
and
what
is
happening
now
Across
America,
including
Arlington,
is
folks
are
looking
at
the
zoning
that
was
created
and
determining
okay.
What
impact
is
that
actually
having
in
my
community
and
is
it
an
impact
that
I
want
or
do
we
need
to
change
it
and
I?
Think
that's
the
Crux
of
a
lot
of
discussions,
we're
all
having.
A
C
C
If
there
you
know
what
that
impact
was,
they
read
the
color
of
law
by
Richard
Rothstein,
which
is
the
primer
I
mean
if
you
really
want
to
get
the
down
and
dirty
of.
Why
we're
where
we
are
on
zoning
and
housing
read
that
book
and
they
the
history
of
Virginia,
which
is
you
know
not
great
in
the
past,
but
we're
getting
better.
C
They
just
were
quieter
about
it
and
that's
when
you
got
things
like
redlining,
where
you
got
covenants
in
neighborhoods
or
covenants
to
Deeds
Deeds.
That
said,
you
cannot
sell
your
property
to
a
black
person.
So
you
know
Virginia
was
at
the
front
of
that
along
with
a
few
other
states,
but
we
came
to
it
early.
So
again,
it
is
historical
and
has
never.
You
know
hasn't
really
been
analyzed
about.
What's
left
of
the
overtness,
it
just
kind
of
stayed
and
we
haven't
really
taken
a
look
of
what
it
what
it
has
meant.
C
So
some
of
the
things
that
we
are
are
suggesting
that
localities
look
at
their
zoning
ordinance
and
determine
if
it's
one
that
is
restricting
multiple
households
living
in
the
same
neighborhood.
Is
it
restricting
the
ability
of
folks
to
own
I
mean
what
is
it
actually
doing
to
your
supply?
Because
again,
this
is
the
supply
and
demand.
Virginia
has
issued
less
as
almost
half
building
permits
for
housing
since
2004
than
it
had
before.
We
are
a
state
that
is
growing
in
Dynamic,
which
is
great
awesome.
Wonderful.
C
Our
housing
supply
has
nowhere
in
Virginia,
but
particularly
the
urban
Crescent,
which
Northern
Virginia
is
part
of,
has
not
kept
up
with
housing
needs.
Households
are
getting
smaller
too,
which
means
you
still
need
more
housing
units.
It's
not
happening,
and
a
lot
of
the
barrier
is
that
our
zoning
is
so
overly
focused
on
single
family
detached
and
nothing
else.
A
While
in
Arlington
Shelley
is
you've,
chronicled
we've
accommodated
growth
through
decades,
with
some
pretty
interesting
approaches
to
to
land
use.
Can
you
just
a
little
comment
about
how
Arlington
is
maybe
positioned
itself
a
little
bit
differently
from
these
Trends
in
terms
of
accommodating
growth,
but
really
with
with
not
within
the
areas
that
Tracy's
talked
about?
But
you
know
in
other
places,
like
our
Metro
corridors,.
B
Well,
yeah
again,
Arlington
was
sort
of
reactive,
but
nevertheless,
once
Metro
went
in
Arlington,
the
Planning
and
Zoning
started
to
change
to
accommodate
greater
density
in
the
Boston
Roslin
Corridor
in
Crystal
City.
So
very
clearly
those
corridors
have
absorbed
a
great
deal
of
density
and
also
I.
Guess.
I
should
also
mention
that
I
think
Arlington's
early
development
of
Garden
Apartments
is
noteworthy.
I
mean
they're
way
ahead
of
Fairfax
County,
for
example.
In
doing
that
accommodating
say
during
the
30s
and
40s
I.
Think
that's
that's
something
worth
mentioning.
B
You
know
one
thing
Tracy
when
you
were
talking
about
Virginia
as
a
whole,
I
have
to
put
a
little
plug
in
for
my
neighborhood,
which
is
Reston
because
Robert
E
Simon
came
in
in
1964
and
said
we
are
going
to
create
greater
density
here,
and
everyone
is
welcome
absolutely
so.
It's
sort
of
an
anomaly,
but
it's
a
place
that
that
has
accommodated
density
in
a
very
sort
of
prosperous
and
happy
way.
Yeah.
C
It's
it's
there's,
no
question
that
in
a
green-filled
situation,
meaning
a
place
that
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
density
or
have
a
lot
of
development
at
all,
you
can
plan
a
mixed
income,
diverse,
wonderful,
mixed
uses
where
Grocery
and
CVS
are
at
the
bottom.
And
you
know,
hazardous
housing
is
up
a
problem,
maybe
offices
above
that
or
have
a
combination
of
single
family
and
duplexes
and
townhouses
all
within
walking
distance.
You
can
easily
plan
for
that
because
you're,
it's
a
it's
a
new
space,
but.
D
Can
you
know
it's
right
across
from
I,
can
look
over
on
the
next
street
and
and
see
the
do
and
was
like
great,
a
duplex,
a
nice
duplex
and
I'm
thinking
great.
They
can
put
a
duplex,
that's
like
600,
maybe
700
000.
Now
that's
still
a
lot
of
money
600
and
we
can,
you
know,
that's
affordable,
there's
two
of
them.
No,
the
duplexes
went
for
1.1
million
each
and
I'm
thinking
so
they're.
D
The
missing
middle
is
still
missing
because
even
though
it's
a
duplex
and
it
took
up
the
it
still
was
not
affordable,
and
so
that's
you
know.
If
we're
going
to
change,
have
a
zoning
change
and
have
multi-unit
housing
units
are
they
going
to
be
affordable
because
if
they
aren't
we're
going
to
still
get
the
same
with
thing
where
black
and
brown
are
moved
out,
because
they
do
not
have
the
wealth
to
come
in
and
purchase
and
buy
a
1.1
1.2
million
dollar
home?
And
that's
how
my
neighborhood
has
changed
from
99
black
to
now?
D
A
And
let's
talk
about
that,
because
we've
got
a
question
from
one
of
our
residents
in
fairlington
about
how
conceptually
and
under
what
circumstances
could
missing
middle
housing
actually
be
that
tool
to
provide
an
opportunity
for
people
who
are
maybe
looking
to
own
their
first
home,
particularly
yeah
the
starter
homes,
particularly
for
for
black
and
brown
people,
who
have
a
much
significantly
lower
rates
of
home
ownership.
We'll
start
with
Tracy,
but
I
also
do
want
to
put
a
plug
in
Richard
Rothstein.
A
C
All
right,
absolutely
required
reading
size
of
unit
number
of
overall
units
in
the
supply
are
going
to
be
a
big
big
impact
on
pricing,
because,
again,
affordability
is
going
to
mean
different
things
to
different
people.
If
you're
talking
market
rate
affordable
right,
that
is
anywhere
from
60
to
80
percent
of
the
average
median
income.
Again,
people's
rules
will
change,
but
on
average
right
it
depends.
What
size
are
you
in?
Are
you
again
are
you
building?
C
Is
it
a
2400
square
foot,
three
bedroom
two
and
a
half
bath
condo,
or
is
it
a
thousand
bath
and
a
half
two
bedrooms
again,
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
key
is
variety
and
options
we
lack
both
of
those
we
seem
to
be
as
a
community
in
Virginia
again.
Is
that
we're
on
one
end
or
the
other
you
are?
We
have
built
I
have
my
numbers
down
here.
We
have
built
like
over
60
percent
single
family
homes.
C
We've
built
1.2
percent
of
like
smaller
one
to
two
units,
very
little
multi-family.
That
is
like
one
to
four
units.
Less
than
20
percent
multi-family,
that's
five
and
up
I
mean
we
just
again.
It's
called
missing
middle
for
a
reason.
We
lack
starter
homes,
a
starter
home
is
not
4,
600
square
feet.
Kids,
it's
just
not
right!
C
C
That's
not
what
I'm
looking
for
or
could
not
afford
it.
I
need
something
in
the
middle,
so
I
can
get
out
of
my
house,
and
some
other
family
can
move
into
it.
Because
that's
the
other
thing.
We
have
very
little
opportunity
for
people
to
move
to
different
types
of
housing
through
their
lives
right.
You
have
couples
singles
who
are
holding
on
to
the
larger
house
because
they
want
to
stay
here
in
this
region
which
I
want
to
do
can't
find
anything.
I
can
afford.
D
I
loved
my
granddad,
and
he
was
so
wise
and
he
said,
keep
the
land
don't
sell
and
you
because
there's
blood,
sweat,
it's
so
important,
keep
the
land
because
they
own
my
grandfather's
family
owned
a
lot
of
the
land
there
in
Halls,
Hill
and
I'm,
the
only
one
of
all
my
cousins
and
stuff
they
all
moved
and
because
Arlington
started
to
get
expensive
and
they
moved
out
and
got
bigger
homes
in
Fairfax
and
out
in
Herndon
and
all
over
and
I
stayed
and
I
kept.
My
they
teased
me
my
parents.
D
It
was
a
thousand
square
foot,
start
a
home
on
the
land
right
back
in
back
of
my
grandpa
granddads
and
and
it
was
they
called
it.
The
Little
House
on
a
prairie.
Well
thank
God
I.
Did
that
because
my
children
to
this
day
and
my
grandchildren
get
to
go
to
Arlington
schools
and
live
here,
because
I
kept
the
Little
House
on
a
prairie
and
and
and
and
so
and
now
my
little
house
on
a
prairie
is
worth
about.
D
200
000
more
than
my
sister's
five
bedroom
on
a
quarter
acre
of
land
house
out
in
Herndon
and
she's
like
what
did
we
do?
We
left
Arlington,
you
know,
but
that's
so
important.
My
kids
couldn't
live
here
if
I
didn't,
if
I
wasn't
smart
enough
and
wise
enough
to
to
to
have
that
property,
and
that
is
what
has
happened
to
many
families,
especially
families,
black
families
in
Arlington.
Right,
it's
so
you
know
it's
not
affordable.
D
A
What
are
you
all
describing
it's
interesting,
because
these
are
you
know
many
people,
think
of
the
housing
market
and
and
when
the
word
market
is
attached
to
anything,
people
think
oh,
perfect
efficiency,
rational
actors,
we
get
what
what
we're
supposed
to
get
and
yet
what
you're
describing
you
know?
Marguerite.
You
know
a
mismatch.
You
got
people
who
would
want
to
live
here,
but
but
can't
because
it's
not
attainable
not
enough
Supply
Tracy
you're
describing
the
other
dimension
that
you
don't
have
enough
product
that
meets
people
at
the
ages
and
stages.
A
How
do
we
Shelley?
How
do
we
get
to
the
place
where
government
should
think
about
how
to
not
be
reactive
and
to
just
sort
of
accept
this
Market
as
it
is,
but
maybe
are
there
tools
that
we
can
use
perspectives
that
we
can
have
in
order
to
to
sort
of
influence
outcomes?
And
you
talked
a
little
bit
about
Rustin,
which
was
sort
of
an
attempt
to
do
that
to
a
degree.
Well.
B
C
Yeah
again
this,
this
is
being
you
know,
you
have
the
discussion
about
the
context
of
where
you're
putting
the
units
or
the
unit
in
this
case,
in
this
case
we're
talking
about
single-family
neighborhoods.
If
the
volume
is
similar
and
the
only
thing
that
has
changed
and
I've
seen
designs,
where
you
wouldn't
even
know
this-
that
there's
a
four
or
there's
two
or
there's
six
inside,
then
you
are
creating
within
the
same
volume.
Multiple
dwelling
units
for
multiple
families
and
households
which
again
supply
and
demand,
is
pretty
simple.
C
C
It
is
whether
you're
about
to
graduate
from
college
son
and
daughter,
could
come
back
home
and
find
a
place
to
live,
to
buy
a
rent.
It's
whether
you're
firefighter,
who
may
be
an
entry
level.
Can
he
or
she
live
in
the
neighborhood
that
they
serve?
Don't
get
me
started
on
teachers
and
health
care.
I
mean
all
of
these
people
are
what
makes
our
community
wonderful
provide,
the
things
that
we
care
about
and
I
know
of
a
local
planning
department
whose
planning
staff
cannot
afford
to
live
in
the
community.
D
A
So
we've
got
a
question,
and
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
is
is
frequently
brought
up
in
this
conversation,
because
one
of
the
things
that
zoning
is
is
is
supposed
to
do.
Generally
speaking,
is
to
you
know,
sort
of
match
uses
with
with
infrastructure
and
amenities
that
are
available
to
make
sure
that
there's
Harmony,
and
so
you
know,
the
question
is
really
about
whether
missing
middle
should
be
located
in
in
parts
of
the
community
that
are
not,
for
example,
Metro
accessible
or
that
aren't
convenient,
walkable
I'm
presuming
to
shopping
and
Commercial
activities.
C
Well,
I
I
think
one
of
the
great
trends
that
we've
seen
over
the
last
20
years
is
mixed
juice,
development,
Redevelopment
in
Arlington
and
everybody's
house,
and
and
that
we
know
of
around
here,
has
provided
multiple
uses
in
the
same
place
or
near
the
same
place,
because
that's
what
we
as
consumers
have
decided.
We
want
more.
You
know
we
work
it.
I
would
be.
You
know.
C
I
want
to
I
want
restaurant,
that
I
can
walk
to
I
want
a
little
bit
of
shopping,
a
ton
of
shopping
I'm,
not
looking
for
necessarily
a
mall,
but
I
want
some
shopping
near
me,
so
I
I
think,
particularly
in
a
community
like
like
Arlington,
because
of
its
size,
its
robust
investment
in
transit.
That
is
not
all
about
Metro.
There's
your
bus,
there's
your
I!
Guess
it's
called
Transit
way
or
brt.
C
You
know
you
know
you
have
non-single
occupancy
vehicle
opportunities
that
are
flexible,
Metro
love
it,
but
it's
not
the
most
flexible
system
on
the
planet.
Your
bus
system,
your
Transit
way
y'all,
have
the
ability
to
reconfigure
that
based
on
demand,
so
a
mixed
income,
a
new
mixed
income,
neighborhood
or
neighborhood.
C
That
is
evolving
to
be
mixed
income
for
that,
for
environmental
reasons,
for
clean
air
reasons,
for
health
reasons
you
you
can
provide
transit
in
a
way
that
those
people
who
live
there
may
not
always
have
to
use
a
single
or
be
a
single
occupant
in
a
vehicle
and
drive
someplace
yeah,
so
I
I
think
you
know,
housing
needs
to
be
everywhere
and
I
think
you
know
that's
one
of
the
things
we're
talking
about,
but
I
think
putting
as
much
density
of
multiple
uses
near
Transportation
or
Transit.
Nodes.
C
D
D
Organically,
of
addressing
these
issues
with
housing,
Transit
I
mean
you
know
with
the
whole
Columbia
Pike
reefer
we've.
It's
really
far
north
of
50.,
really
north
of
Langston
Boulevard.
Let's
just
get
real
it
is
that
because
South
Arlington
they're
working
on
it
they're
doing
it
and
and
I
have
a
lot
of
young
people
that
I
know
would
prefer
to
live
there
on
the
South
Side,
then,
on
the
North
side,
because
diversity
density,
the
all
all
of
the
opportunities,
the
transportation.
It's
you
can.
B
C
Yeah
and
that's
what
it's
a
good
point,
your
zoning
changes
do
not
change
anything
overnight,
correct
right,
Lord!
No,
that
does
not
happen.
It
will
happen
over
time.
So
what
you
do
with
zoning?
Is
you
identify
what
you
want
to
see
where
you
want
the
change
to
happen
and
the
kind
of
change
you
want?
You're
not
saying
this
is
happening
tomorrow,
because
that's
not
how
the
world
works.
A
D
But
I
would
like
for
the
county
if
this
is
I
would
like
for
it
to
be
the
accounting
to
be
mindful
and
and
protect,
especially
the
historical
black
neighborhoods,
who
have
been
absorbing
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
the
changes
in
the
the
Redevelopment
and
the
I
feel
like
sometimes
the
exportation
of
of
the
developers
coming
in
and
taking
over.
If
the
county
can
protect
and
preserve
some,
some
of
some
of
our
neighborhoods
from
being
targeted
and
over
over
the.
C
D
Middle
over
implemented
and
in
those
neighborhoods
and
I
understand
it's
going
to
take
a
long
time.
But
I
just
worry
about
our
neighborhood
being
the
number
one
Target
and
developers
coming
in
and
just
exploiting
us
even
more
than
we
have
been
and
we're
becoming
even
more
dense,
because
we're
the
only
place
that
you
know.
D
A
But
no,
but
this
is
this
is
perfect,
because
one
of
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
do
is
is
to
have
different
people
who
may
come
into
this
conversation
differently
to
think
about
all
the
perspectives
that
are
here
because
it's
a
big
issue.
It's
a
broad
issue
and
if
we're
honest,
none
of
us
knows
if
we
were
to
pursue
these
zoning
changes.
A
But
I
do
want
to
talk
about
this
because
we,
you
know,
we
talked
about
density
and
and
really
at
the
top
talked
about
density
being
alarming
to
many
people
and
I
just
want
to
get
your
perspectives
because,
as
we
think
about
missing
middle
at
least
as
it's
been
framed
in
in
Arlington
context
and
hearkening
back
to
how
zoning
works,
these
neighborhoods
would
still
be
low
density
like
these
are
still
low
density.
Zoning
categories.
C
C
The
city
of
Norfolk
has
done
some
modeling,
also
they've
done
sort
of
well.
If
you
did,
it
would
look
like
this.
The
key
would
be
that
you're
looking
to
keep
the
like
I
said.
The
density
in
terms
of
the
volume
of
each
building
single
family
homes
at
the
building,
a
duplex
is
a
building.
A
quadplex
is
a
building
they're,
all
still
going
to
be
the
same.
Similar
I
guess
scale
will
be
another
way
to
think
about
it.
The
scale
will
stay
the
same.
C
C
The
all
that
changes
is
how
many
households
are
actually
inside.
The
shell
and
I
think
I
think
just
to
be
again
you're,
not
looking
at
the
Rosalind
Boston
Corridor.
That
is
not
what
anyone
talks
about
in
missing
middle.
Nor
should
you
you're
literally
talking
about
a
size
and
volume
and
type
of
of
housing
unit
that,
for
a
variety
of
reasons,
just
does
not
exist
in
this
community
in
Arlington,
and
it
means
that
you
have
artificially
I'm
just
going
to
put
it
that
way,
because
you
don't
allow
it.
C
A
That's
come
in
from
a
viewer.
Can
you
speak
a
little
bit
about
whether
or
not
or
what
the
impact
is
of
doing
zoning
changes
like
the
kind
we're
proposing
comprehensively
versus
more
site-specific
zoning,
or
using
special
exception
or
other
review
processes
to
permit
activities?
Can
you
just
give
us
a
sense
of
what
you
think
of
it.
B
All
the
perspectives
on
the
table
all
right
well,
just
my
gut
reaction
is
that
I
think.
If
you're
going
to
make
this
kind
of
change,
it
should
be
Equitable,
which
means
I
think
it
should
be
blanket
across
all
single
family.
Detached
zones
not
well
not
not
isolated
at
all
and
I'm,
not
even
sure
that
special
exception
is
the
way
to
go.
I
just
think.
If
you're
going
to
make
this
kind
of
change,
make
it
across
all
all
zones
that
are
single
family
detached.
B
C
C
Or
Parks,
even
that
you
might
tweak
things
and
Broad
not
site
by
sight
but
broad
perspective,
but
if
you're
again,
zoning
is
meant
to
be
the
rules
of
the
road
for
everybody.
You
know
going
in
what
you're
allowed
to
do,
what
you're
not
allowed
to
do
having
a
small
Picayune
plot.
By
plot
decision
is
just
going
to
drive
everybody
crazy,
and
if
your
goal
is
to
increase
housing
options,
you
are
not
creating
a
market
where
that
will
happen.
I'm
just
going
to
be
real
about
it.
C
D
A
Anthony,
it's
the
responsibility
of
the
local
government
to
make
sure
that
you
think
about
specific
context
within
your
ordinance
itself.
You
draft
your
your
ordinance
to
account
for
those
specific
variations
that
you're
concerned
with,
and
you
accommodate
that
within
your
audience.
Your
ordinance,
if
you
do
it
well,
and
it's
also
the
responsibility
I-
would
think
of
of
the
local
community
that
if
there
are
known
consequences
that
you
you
mitigate
them
broadly,
instead.
A
No,
it's
it's
it's
very!
It's
it's
fascinating,
so
we've
got
another
question
that
I
want
to
get
to
lot
size
requirements
influencing
housing
and
what
is
built
and
Tracy.
This
is
going
back
to
conversation
earlier
about
I.
Think
you
know
the
market
such
as
it
is
the
one
thing
that
is
predictable.
Pricing
is
sort
of
based
on
like
size.
A
C
A
2500
square
foot
duplex
right
yeah,
exactly
so
you
you
do
and
again
I
think
with
what
you
want
to
do.
You
want
to
give
the
market
an
opportunity
to
meet
a
variety
of
Demands
so
being
able
to
say
yep.
We
can
make
four
1000
square
foot
foot
units
in
a
building
work.
You
know
that
that's
a
great
thing
works
for
it.
Let's
get
it
done.
If
you
want
to
do
two
that
are
2500,
I,
don't
love
it,
but
that
makes
sense
too.
C
A
A
A
conversation
and
and
people
being
concerned
that,
what's
being
proposed,
won't
deliver
on
that
that
it
will
continue
to
deliver
units
that
are
available
for
people,
if
not
at
the
you
know,
the
high
end
of
the
single
dwelling
Market
still
far
beyond
what
would
be
attainable
for
most
households.
So
you
know
talk
about
that
for
a
second
we've
talked
about
size.
Are
there
any
other
things
that
we
can
think
of
that
could
help
us
ensure
that
attainability
is
a
feature
and
not
a
a
lost
right.
C
I
think
you
have
to
be
realistic
about
the
costs
that
go
into
creating
a
unit
or
creating
housing.
There's
materials,
value
of
the
land
time
from
permitting
to
letting
someone
move
in
what
you
have
to
do
to
accommodate
and
again
it
depends
on
what
whether
it's
parking
I
mean.
The
bottom
line
is
those
are
those
are
cost
matters
and
so
determining
how
you
balance
the
I
want
these
certain
amenities,
but
I
also
want
it
to
be
within
a
certain
price
point.
C
You
have
to
have
a
realistic
discussion
with
the
builder
you
just
do
and
if
there's
a
price
point
you
can't
get
to
from
Market.
This
is
where
the
public
entity
local
government
will
determine
what
is
the
best
use
of
additional
tools
and
money
that
I
bring
to
the
table
to
achieve
a
certain
price
point.
C
On
the
other
hand,
if
you
want
to
get
to
30
50
40,
somewhat
market-ish
rate,
you
as
a
government
may
have
to
decide
that
we
will
allow
less
parking
because
there's
a
lot
more
transit
or
whatever
you
might
have
to
do,
putting
in
cash
helping
them
get
a
loan
using
litec
a
lot
more
helping
them
go
to
Virginia,
Housing,
Commission
or
authority
and
getting
loans
and
credit
whatever
you
can
do.
You
know,
hopefully
there's
going
to
be
new
federal
money
coming
out
of
the
IRA
that'll
be
available
to
to
help
localities.
C
Do
the
two
things
and
you
do
for
attainable
housing,
preservation
of
existing
and
providing
that
extra
little
Financial
oomph?
That
gets
it
to
a
price
point
you
want.
What's?
Nice
is
you're
likely
with
yours
with
local
government
public
monies
going
in
probably
have
a
much
more
control
of
how
long
that
stays
attainable,
because
that
has
been
a
bit
of
a
challenge
that
units
can
start
out
attainable,
but
over
time,
values
increase
I
mean
that's.
C
So
you
know,
my
theory
is:
do
what
you
can
get,
what
you
can,
through
purely
market
rate,
with
little
Renault
with
no
frankly
Financial
assistant
from
government,
so
that
y'all
can
can
use
what
resources
you
have
to
get
the
other
level
that
it's
hard
to
do
at
a
market
rate
and
I.
Just
think
you
just
it's
just
realistic
how
that
works.
Gotcha,
yeah.
A
So
you
know,
we've
talked
about
missing
middle
and
you
know
forgive
us
in
Arlington
we've
we've
talked
about.
This
is,
if
you
know
this,
is
this
original
conversation?
But
you
know,
as
you
have
mentioned,
in
the
way
that
your
community
is
developed
or
if
anybody
who
actually
looks
outside
of
their
homes
and
in
many
Arlington
communities
they.
A
Types
that
exist
currently,
yes,
and
we
also
know
throughout
the
country
we
we
have
lots
of
neighborhoods,
well-known,
vibrant
all
parts
of
the
country
where
different
housing
types
are
a
part
of
the
scenario.
So
can
we
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
this
like
where?
Where
did
we
kind
of
get
in
this
National
conversation
that
somehow
the
single
dwelling
per
lot
was
the
the
normative
standard
that
sort
of
drives
a
lot
of
thinking.
B
B
C
Yeah
I
mean
I,
think
the
the
you
know
the
first
settlers
on
Jamestown
had
detached
houses.
They
weren't
I
mean
they
didn't
come
from
that
because
again,
if
you've
seen
in
a
book
seen
in
a
movie
been
to
London
or
any
other
place
in
Europe,
you
know
they're
close
together.
They
live,
so
these
were
built
quite
dark
and.
B
D
Well,
my
both
of
my
kids
are
college
graduates
in
our
professionals,
and
they
barely
I
mean
neither
one
of
them
are
making
six
figures
yet.
So
it's
like
if
we
want
our
teachers
and
firefighters
and
police
officers
and
stuff
that
live
in
this
in
in
our
community,
even
in
a
dense
populated
area,
we
better
be
looking
at
salaries
or
some
kind
of
way,
helping
them
financially
to
acquire
units
in
in
housing
and,
that's
part,
a
big
part
of
missing
middle.
It's
like
you
know,
even
if
we
like
in
Europe.
A
So
so
I'm
going
to
go
to
you,
our
retired
educator
a
little
bit,
and
so
let's
talk
about
how
this
could
affect
School
diversity,
so
just
for
for
context
speaking
because
I
want
to
invite
Shelly
and
Tracy
to
join
this
conversation
as
well.
The
area
that
Marguerite
was
talking
about
earlier
north
of
Lee
Highway
has
some
of
our
most
homogeneous
schools
in
the
county,
having
a
quite
the
large
white
population,
far
disproportionate
than
the
overall
white
population.
So
that's.
A
D
They
could
have
more
diversity
at
Yorktown,
Williamsburg
and
some
of
the
other
elementary
schools,
and
that
was
not
fair
to
our
kids,
because
their
kids
got
to
go
to
their
neighborhood
schools,
and
you
know
right
there
in
the
community
and
it's
like
98,
because
you're,
a
community
and
I
said
this
at
the
school
board.
This
whole
rezoning
really
has
to
do
with
the
neighborhood
demographics.
A
D
D
And
so,
let's,
let's
be
honest
and
let's
just
live
with
it,
leave
my
neighborhood
alone,
the
people
that
live
in
my
neighborhood.
They
move
there,
especially
white
people
because
they
want
to
be
in
a
diverse
neighborhood
right.
Great
I
have
great
rapport
with
the
neighbors
and
our
our
elementary
school
is
diverse
and
that's
what
they
want.
That's
why
they
chose
to
move
there.
So
don't
split
up
our
neighborhood,
because
some
other
neighborhoods
have
chosen
not
to
have
their
their
housing
and
neighborhoods.
D
Be
more
diverse,
don't
hurt
us,
you
know
let
our
kids
stay
together
and
and
all
go
to
the
same
Elementary
School
and
to
the
same
middle
schools.
You
know
right
and
and
high
school,
and
so
that's
how
I
got
that.
That's
how
I
got
to
be
the
only
only
five
blacks
in
Yorktown
back
in
1966
to
1969,
because
they
only
took
two
streets
of
my
neighborhood.
D
D
B
A
D
Was
afraid
of
change
but
I
didn't
have
a
choice
again
in
my
neighborhood
and
I'm
going
to
say
it.
We
didn't
get
the
choice
to
decide
whether
we
wanted
our
neighborhood
integrated
it
just
yeah
and
just
did,
and
so
what
what
happened?
We
learned
to
accept
that
and
maybe
that's
part
of
our
culture-
I
don't
know,
but
we
have
just
we've
embraced
it.
We
we
didn't
fight
it,
but
we
didn't
get
the
choice.
We
never
had
the
choice.
Well,.
A
But
you
know
for
this:
you
know
change
and,
let's
you
know
be,
for
people
who
may
be
resistant
to
the
change
that
is
proposed
by
this
missing
middle
I.
Don't
want
them
to
feel
like
they're
they're
being
marginalized
here.
Part
of
the
the
essence
of
not
wanting
things
to
change
is
maybe
liking
what
you
have
and
you.
A
Like
you
know,
it's
it's
it's
it's
worth
something
and
you
don't
want
to
lose,
what's
valuable
to
you.
So,
let's,
let's
ask
the
question
a
different
way.
Have
we
been
able
to
look
at
communities
that
have
been
the
the
recent
past
and
I?
Don't
know
if
you
know
of
any
examples,
I'm
I'm
having
trouble
thinking
of
some
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
who
have
kind
of
gone
down
this
route
of
enabling
or
re-enabling
I
should
say
new
housing
types,
because
it's
not
really
new
new.
C
C
B
C
We
have
yet
to
see
in
Arlington
would
be,
let's
be
pacific
to
Arlington
you
all
choosing
to
change
density
or
allow
different
housing
opportunities.
We
have
yet
to
see
that
result
in
values
going
down.
It
has
made
communities
more
valuable.
More
sought
after
has
brought
more
people
here
to
fill
jobs
that
need
to
be
filled
to
allow
your
families
to
have
jobs
so
I
know
it's
a
fear.
C
This
property
value
but
I
think
those
people
who
bring
that
up
should
be
required
to
provide
examples
where
that
has
happened
because
I
think
in
Arlington,
specifically
because
of
the
type
the
type
of
zoning
or
and
changes
you've
made
property
value
depreciation
has
not
been
the
issue
as
a
local
government.
The
person-
you
probably
know
that
better
right,
there's.
A
So
you
know
Kelly
I'd
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
Reston
and
sort
of
the
planned
nature
of
that
and
again
not
to
you
know,
have
people
have
in
their
mind
whether
they
like
resting
or
not,
but
I'd
love
to
hear
from
your
perspective,
someone
who
sort
of
lives
there
and
but
also
has
this
academic
Outlook.
What's
working
well
about
the
sort
of
Reston
Town
Center
experience
as
it
goes
through,
it's
it's
mult,
the
second
generation
so
to
speak.
Well,.
B
I
think
that
Community
was
really
important
and
Mr
Simon
personally
detested
single-family
detached
housing.
He
he
believed
that
people
should
live
close
together
and
share
common
open
space,
so
the
model
of
Reston
from
the
beginning
has
been
to
Cluster
people
together
and
then
have
them
share
open
space
and
I
think
those
values
have
have
pretty
much
endured
over
time
in
rest
than
what
we're
fighting.
The
change
that
we're
fighting
is
the
coming
of
Metro.
A
All
right
all
right,
so
you
know
I
think
for
many
people
in
Arlington.
They
would
love
for
us
to
be
able
to
sort
of
shape
the
outcomes
a
little
bit
and
to
deliver
some
some
certainty
about
what
what
is
to
come,
and
we
do
have
a
question
from
one
of
our
residents
in
Shirlington
about
whether
or
not
there
things
that
that
can
be
done
to
incent
or
encourage
the
construction
of
more
missing
middle
housing.
A
So
Tracy,
you
talked
a
little
bit
before
about
how
sort
of
the
ideal
scenario
is
to
construct
something
where
the
Market's
able
to
deliver
sure.
But
you
know
maybe
going
a
little
bit
more
about
maybe
some
of
the
things
that
you
were
hinting
at.
That
would
then
make
it
possible
to
come
in
and
if
your
goals
are
attainability
right,.
C
C
What
I'm
saying
is
there
are
things
that
you
that
sometimes
get
built
into
the
ordinance
that
micromanage
the
outcome
of
the
building,
that
their
only
value
is,
they
add
costs
working
with
landowners
to
sort
of
figure
out
where
there
might
be
quick
wins
to
show
the
variety,
because
this
is
I
mean
the
market
you're
gonna
you're
gonna
have
to
prove
to
the
market
a
little
bit
that
you
really
want
to
do
this,
and
then
it's
really
going
to
happen.
So
the
initial
rollout
could
be
all
all
over
the
place,
but
the
well.
C
You
know
the
the
government's
perspective.
How
you
talk
about
it
that
it's
something
you
want
to
see.
You
want
to
see
more
housing
options
at
a
specific
price
point
will
tell
the
industry
what
you're
looking
for-
and
you
know,
challenge
them
to
come
up
with
what
you
want
to
say.
You
know
this
is
your
envelope,
but
let's
push
it
a
little
more.
Could
you
could
you
make
it?
So
this
is
the
price
point
you
know
our
you
know.
C
What's
the
difference
between
rental
and
ownership
or
rent
to
own,
you
know,
I
I
can't
express
enough
to
talk
with
landowner
and
developer
and
Builder,
but
with
the
developer
understanding
what
they're
trying
to
do
there
are
a
number
we're
really
blessed
with
in
Northern
Virginia
is
a
variety
of
for-profit
and
non-profit
developers
of
attainable
housing
at
a
variety
of
price
points.
You
know:
that's
the
target
of
the
industry
for
y'all
to
go,
talk
to
and
say
we
want
this
to
happen
here.
C
D
It
sounds
it
does
sound,
fair
I.
Just
my
sense
has
been
that
it's,
the
the
housing
market
has
been
really
with
the
builders
and
landlord
it's
all
for
for
profit.
How
much
money
can
we
make?
Not
whether
or
not
this
is
something
that's
going
to
be
good
for
the
neighborhood
or
for
the
community
in
terms
of
attainable
housing?
It's
really
everything
has
been
about
the
profit.
Well,.
C
A
C
But
the
for-profit
ones
and
and
again
they're
Limited
in
what
they
can
do
here
with
the
with
the
lack
of
Supply,
the
supply
being
so
so
so
so
so
tight
right.
They
can
actually
get
that
and
they
just
kind
of
take
advantage.
They
they're
going
to
take
that
opportunity,
but
with
the
the
knowledge
that
there
are
additional
housing
units
coming
on
and
there
actually
is
a
market
because
I
I
agree,
there's
going
to
be
a
such
a
demand
for
the
missing
middle
type
units
for
rent
or
for
buy.
C
C
A
D
I
mean
really
looking
to
see
what
the
county
can
do
to
help
make
housing
more
that's
available,
available
and
attainable,
and
I
I
really
have
learned
something
and
like
what
you
have
just
shared
about.
I
had
no
idea
that
there
were
developers
that
were
really
interested
in
I
know,
making
a
profit,
but
not
like
just
exploiting
in
a
sense.
D
That's
how
I
have
felt,
and
it's
all
about
the
money
and
so
I
would
I,
would
love
for
the
county
to
consider
some
developers
that
are
really
interested
in
working
with
the
county
in
terms
of
making
building
things
that
would
fit
with
the
whole
missing
middle
concept
and
policy
and
then
helping
folks,
Young,
Folks
old
folks
afford
it.
Thank.
A
B
You
know
a
model
that
others
could
follow.
I,
don't
know
exactly
how
that
would
work,
but
I
I
think
about
the
city
of
false
Church,
which
change
some
zoning
in
order
to
allow
Cottage
housing.
10
Cottage
houses
on
a
very
small
parcel
of
land
and
people
were
at
first
quite
freaked
out
about
it,
because
it
was
a
real
change,
but
it's
been
super
successful
and
people
have
grown
to
be
be
very
wow
pleased
with
it.
So
I
don't
know
just
something
like
that.
Maybe
a
demonstration
somewhere.
D
C
First
of
all,
stick
with
your
guns
about
ex
continuing
to
examine
and
talk
about
this
issue
of
mental
housing.
This
is
such
an
important
discussion
to
have
in
the
Commonwealth,
because
you
know
Arlington
is
significantly
way
ahead
of
others
and
having
this
discussion
and
it's
great
that
the
way
you're
having
it
I
think
that
ongoing
discussion,
except
that
you're
going
to
keep
having
this
discussion.
Even
if
you
adopt
an
ordinance,
there
will
still
be
more
discussion
that
the
community
will
want
to
have
with
you
and
that's
and
that's
a
good
thing.
C
Consistent
and
constant
of
where
this
is
going
to
apply,
as
you
can
go,
big
do
as
much
as
you
possibly
can,
because
you
certainly
your
community
needs
the
housing
units.
They
need
this
option
and
I'm
hoping
everybody
who
cares
about
this
issue
does
really
sort
accept
that
this
is
not
an
overnight
change,
but
you
have
to
start
somewhere
and
I.
Also
think
we
need
to
remind
ourselves
that
missing
middle
is
not
the
Panacea
on
attainable
housing.
C
C
A
C
A
On
that
note,
I
think
we
will.
We
will
end-
and
let
me
just
say
thanks
to
everyone
who
has
joined
in
tonight
by
participating
via
sending
in
questions.
We've
got
questions
that
have
come
in
from
Shirlington
Aurora,
Highlands,
Dominion
Hills
and,
let's
see
farlington
as
well
as
some
other
places.
So
thank
you
all
for
your
participation
and
I'd
like
to
extend
a
special
thank
you
to
our
guest
tonight:
Marguerite
Gooden,
Halls,
Hill,
Ivy,
Park
resident
Dr,
Shelley
mastron,
professor
at
the
Virginia
Tech
School
of
Public
and
international
Affairs
and
Tracy
Boehner
senior.
A
Vice
president
at
McGuire
Woods.
We
very
much
appreciate
your
your
candor,
your
insights
and
just
really
the
great
conversation.
So
as
a
reminder,
tonight's
information
session
was
part
of
a
series
and
we
hope
that
you
will
join
us
again
for
our
last
information
session
on
October
12th,
where
we
will
focus
on
planning
for
growth
and
for
friends
and
colleagues,
neighbors
or
other
interested
parties
who
were
not
be
able
we're
not
able
to
attend
Us
in
real
time
and
hear
the
construction
in
our
building.