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A
No,
mr
dorsey
is
planning
to
return
to
us
imminently,
perfect
timing
good
afternoon,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
welcome
to
our
march
22nd
recess
meeting
of
the
arlington
county
board.
This
is
katie
crystal
chair
of
the
county
board.
I'm
joined
today
by
vice
chairman
christian
dorsey,
mr
karen
tonis,
ms
garvey
and
mr
differenti.
We
will
begin
with
some
recognitions
and
proclamations
moving
then
to
appointments,
followed
by
board
member
reports,
regional
reports
and
we'll
hear
from
the
manager
with
a
few
items.
A
Today
we
are
fortunate
to
have
quite
a
few
items
to
cover,
I
think
about
15
in
total.
So,
although
we
don't
usually
hear
that
specifically
to
it,
I'm
gonna
roughly
keep
an
eye
on
time
of
our
general
five
to
seven
minute.
Custom
and
and
gently
invite
everyone's
partnership
by
reminding
us
when
we've
gone
a
little
in
excess
of
that.
So
without
further
ado,
we
have
to
kick
us
off
today,
an
exciting
anniversary
for
our
neighbors
and
an
important
institution
in
arlington.
As
for
the
commonwealth,
george
mason
university
is
turning.
A
A
doesn't
look
a
day
over
45
and
we
are
so
glad
to
be
able
to
celebrate
george
mason
with
a
proclamation
today,
recognizing
this
exciting
anniversary
and
the
in
1972
actually
april,
7th
of
1972
governor
linwood,
a
holton
signed
house
bill
210,
which
established
george
mason
as
a
freestanding,
four-year
public
institution
of
higher
education
and,
of
course,
in
the
years
since
they
have
become
a
fixture
throughout
the
commonwealth
and
a
really
important
part
of
our
landscape.
Here
in
arlington
county.
A
A
Now,
therefore,
it
is
my
pleasure,
as
chair
of
the
arlington
county
board,
in
recognition
of
the
many
bonds
between
arlington
county
and
george
mason
university,
particularly
in
regard
to
the
arlington
campus,
to
commend
and
recognize
george
mason
university's
50th
anniversary,
so
that
throughout
this
year,
the
board
of
visitors,
alumni
of
george
mason
university,
local
governments,
advisory
committees
and
interested
citizens
can
join
us
in
celebrating
its
many
years
of
growth
and
remarkable
achievements.
Congratulations.
A
A
A
Now,
therefore,
I,
as
chair
of
the
county
board,
do
hereby
proclaim
march
13th
through
19th
2022,
as
emergency
management
professional
week
in
arlington
county.
I
urge
all
citizens
to
join
us
in
honoring
the
employees
of
arlington
county
emergency
management,
recognizing
their
service
and
commitments
to
the
lives,
health
and
safety
of
all
who
live
visit
and
do
business
here
in
arlington
and
the
region.
A
I
thought
I
saw
this
one.
I
saw
mr
flagler,
no
okay,
all
right.
In
that
case,
we
will
recognize
them
in
absentia,
because
I
am
certain
they
are
all
doing
their
important
work
and
I
will
commend
everyone's
attention:
the
social
media
of
our
department
of
public
emergency
management
and
communications,
which
has
been
featuring
some
of
those
talented
employees
all
throughout
the
month
of
march.
A
Okay,
for
our
final
recognition,
I'm
so
pleased
to
turn
things
over
to
mr
diferenti
to
recognize
a
very
valued
member
of
this
community.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
want
to
share
and
recognize
the
life
of
thomas
matthew,
kelly,
an
arlington
resident,
passed
away
peacefully
on
february
11,
2022,
surrounded
by
family,
friends,
clergy
and
compassionate
medical
personnel.
I
will
also
share
with
colleagues
when
I'm
done.
I
know
that
you
may
have
a
thought
or
two
to
add
and
and
I'll
leave
that
to
you
to
do,
but
certainly
his
record
of
accomplishment
is
extraordinary.
He's
survived
by
his
wife,
susie
son,
billy
sister,
laura
brother,
brian
and
grandchildren.
B
Mr
kelly
began
his
career
working
as
an
education
policy,
legislative
assistant
to
former
u.s
congressman
dale
kildy.
He
continued
his
career
as
a
legislative
associate
for
the
house
of
representative
education
and
labor
committee.
He
worked
for
presidents,
bill
clinton
and
barack
obama
appointing
him.
B
He
served
as
deputy
director
of
the
office
of
legislative
and
congressional
affairs
at
the
department
of
education.
He
then
directed
the
department
of
education's
program
that
helps
centers
for
independent
living
support
persons
with
disabilities
across
the
united
states.
He
dedicated
himself
to
ensuring
access
to
equality,
education,
fair
labor
practices
and
that
people
with
disabilities
have
the
equal
opportunity
to
participate
in
all
aspects
of
the
american
experience,
including
here
in
arlington.
B
B
So,
colleagues,
if
you
have
any
any
thoughts,
what
an
extraordinary
record
of
of
service
and
we're
thinking
of
the
family
and
grateful
for
the
extraordinary
life
that
mr
kelly
lit
led.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
mr
defranti,
and
we
have
another
community
member
who
were
fortunate
to
celebrate.
While
he's
still
with
us
and
I'll
turn
that
over
to
you
as
well.
B
Sure
I
want
to
just
take
a
minute
to
to
thank
matthew.
Whitfield
is
here
with
us
and
thrilled
to
get
a
chance
to
honor
you
for
the
extraordinary
work.
If
we
take
two
years
and
think
back
to
the
start
of
the
pandemic,
we
were
all
worried
about
our
health,
but
we
were
worried
about
making
sure
that
people
in
their
homes
could
stay
in
their
homes
and
matthew.
Whitfield
was
the
center
of
that.
We
are
so
grateful
for
your
service
to
legal
services
of
northern
virginia,
and
we
have.
B
We
talked
on
the
phone,
but
I
apologize
and
then
meredith
mckay
is
also
here,
and
it
is
a
testimony
to
your
leadership
that
we
have
jennifer
daniels
and
russell
dena
schroeder
here
from
our
staff,
whereas
matthew
whitfield
has
served
arlington
county
as
council
for
legal
services
of
northern
virginia
over
the
past
several
years,
whereas
mr
whitfield
has
worked
tirelessly
toward
the
goal
of
equal
justice
under
law
by
advocating
for
those
without
the
financial
resources
to
access
legal
counsel
and
whereas
mr
whitfield
has
defended
clients
against
debt
collectors,
preventing
nursing
home
discharges,
represented
clients
against
repossessions
and
fraud
and
helped
prevent
evictions,
and
whereas,
as
a
commissioner
on
the
tenant
landlord
commission,
mr
whitfield
successfully
advocated
for
critical
reforms
to
help
prevent
evictions
during
the
covet
19
pandemic
and
prior
to
it,
helping
to
establish
a
set
daca
time
for
consideration
of
unlawful
detainers
and
a
requirement
that
landlords
follow
the
procedures
relevant
from
the
rental
relief
protection
program.
B
Whereas
mr
whitfield's
service
to
low-income
arlington
residents
has
been
a
critical
part
of
arlington
county's
commitments
to
our
residents
most
not
in
need.
Now.
Therefore,
I
katie
crystal
chair
of
the
county
board
in
arlington.
Virginia,
do
hereby
recognize
on
this
22nd
day
of
march
2022
matthew
whitfield
for
his
hard
work
and
unceasing
dedication
to
protecting
those
who
are
most
vulnerable
and
advocating
for
justice
for
those
most
in
need
in
arlington
as
council
for
legal
services
of
northern
virginia.
B
Come
on
up
and
smith
and
I
think
we'll
hear
hear
a
little
bit
from
from
you
and
then
I
think
mr
whitfield
has
brief
remarks
and
we'll
help.
Thank
you
miss
jacob.
So
much
for
helping
me.
C
Good
afternoon
I
will
try
to
be
brief,
but
I'm
an
attorney
so
good
afternoon,
chair
crystal
and
members
of
the
arlington
county
board.
I
am
delighted
to
join
you
here
today
to
recognize
matthew,
whitfield's,
exemplary
service
to
the
residents
of
arlington
county.
I
asked
my
colleagues
how
they
would
describe
matthew.
The
top
responses
were
hard-working
humble,
has
good
attention
to
detail
and
is
a
great
legal
researcher
as
a
housing,
consumer
and
elder
law
attorney
matthew,
helped
hundreds
of
clients
by
preventing
evictions,
stopping
fraudulent
debt
collectors
and
drafting
advance
directives
for
critically
ill
clients.
C
Matthew
is
a
legal
aid.
Justice
warrior,
I
want
to
add
an
additional
word.
Matthew
is
a
leader.
Legal
aid
plays
a
distinctive
role
in
our
legal
system
and
our
community.
To
advocate
for
our
clients,
we
must
understand
the
law,
the
history
and
the
impact
of
poverty
and
the
role
of
systemic
barriers
in
our
lives
and
our
clients
lives.
C
These
systemic
changes
will
allow
the
community
to
access
services
and
information
that
can
help
resolve
cases
before
eviction
you're
not
going
to
find
many
individuals
with
matthew's
dedicated
work
ethic,
deep
compassion
for
others
and
strong
skill
set.
Thank
you
matthew.
We
will
miss
you,
and
I
also
want
to
thank
the
board
for
your
continued
support
of
legal
services,
especially
the
past
two
years
you
mentioned,
we
talked
on
the
phone
a
lot.
C
D
Very
much
appreciate
the
recognition
and
the
board's
support
for
legal
aid
and
legal
services
in
northern
virginia.
As
you
know,
there's
no
right
to
an
attorney
in
civil
cases.
So
too
often
those
in
poverty
are
facing
banks,
debt
buyers,
landlords,
their
law
firms
all
by
themselves
in
court.
So
it's
been
a
privilege
and
an
honor
to
work
with
legal
services
in
northern
virginia
to
help
fill
that
justice
gap,
and
I
appreciate
the
board
support.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
whitfield.
So,
with
your
permission,
we'll
just
do
a
quick,
because
I
once
was
in
your
shoes
we'll
do
a
quick
picture
because
I
think
maybe
someday
down
the
road
you
might
want.
It.
E
Didn't
only
help
the
countless
clients
who
deserve
legal
aid,
he
had
us
as
well.
He
helped
us
actually
understand
and
and
and
be
up
to
speed
with
how
this
evolved
during
the
eviction
crisis.
Thank
you.
So
much
fred.
A
And
I
was
going
to
join
actually
mr
whitfield.
Thank
you.
I
mean
it
really
down
to
the
point
of
coordinating
with
our
housing
team.
I
know
to
provide
services
outside
the
courthouse
at
the
courthouse
door.
I
cannot
imagine
how
many
people
were
able
to
stay
in
their
homes
as
a
result
of
your
not
only
legal
expertise,
but
your
tactical
savvy
you've
been
an
extraordinary
partner
to
us.
You'll
be
missed
by
this
board,
and
I
know
by
the
community.
A
All
right
so
that
moves
us
into
appointments.
We
have
a
very
special
set
of
appointments
today,
in
fact,
so
I'm
actually
going
to
turn
things
over
to
two
of
my
colleagues
vice
chairman,
mr
dorsey
and
mr
defranti,
the
liaisons
to
our
community
oversight
board
to
introduce
some
appointments,
we're
about
to
make.
F
Well,
thank
you
so
much
madam
chair
and
mr
d
ferrante
are
going
to
do
a
little
bit
of
a
a
presentation
before
we
get
to
the
naming
of
the
names
as
they
are
just
to
update
on
our
community
on
work
that
has
been
critical
priority
importance
and
ongoing
for
the
better
part
of
the
the
last
year.
F
We
last
updated
the
community
in
january
on
our
progress
toward
constituting
our
community
oversight
board,
which
we
by
code
ordinance
enacted
last
july,
and
we
have
reached
the
milestone
day
where
we
have
identified
all
nine
members,
seven
voting
and
two
non-voting
who
will
constitute
the
cob
and
I'll
just
take
a
minute
to
go
through
the
the
history
so
that
everyone
can
be
grounded
in
where
we
are.
F
If
we
can
move
to
the
next
slide,
the
scope
of
the
cob
was
outlined
in
ordinance
in
the
county
code,
and
you
know
that
ordinance
language,
some
of
which
is
excerpted
here
or
summarized
here,
is
essentially
describing
what
are
a
tripartite
set
of
functions
for
the
cob.
It
is
at
once
an
advisory
board
that
advises
the
county
board.
F
Much
like
the
many
county
commissions
that
we
have
already
it
is
in
that
function,
to
evaluate
the
practices
and
the
policies
and
the
outcomes
of
the
police
department
to
provide
us
with
an
annual
report
on
any
recommendations
that
they
may
have
for
change.
It's
also
charged
with
being
a
vehicle
for
the
public
to
get
a
window
into
that
work
and
to
make
themselves
and
their
actions
and
discussions
available
to
the
public
for
participation.
F
The
cob
is
designed
to
provide
an
opportunity.
Hopefully
that
is
more
receptive
to
people
who
may
offer
complaints
and
to
develop
processes
to
do
that.
But
then
also
it
is
an
oversight
board.
It
is
a
oversight
entity
and
it's
one,
that
this
board
has
delegated
specific
responsibilities,
to
be
able
to
be
involved
in
investigations
into
police
conduct
and
to
recommend
discipline
that
would
be
applied
to
the
chief
that
would
be
applied
for
officer
conduct
and
through
that
they've
been
given
very
weighty
authorities.
The
ability
to
subpoena
records
the
ability
to
retain
outside
counsel.
F
F
So
if
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
just
to
give
a
timeline
of
how
we've
gotten
from
the
beginning
to
where
we
are
now
so,
the
police
practices
group
and
we
are
forever
in
the
debt
of
everyone
who
participated
in
that
group
and
rodney
turner,
sol
reyes,
captain
latasha
chamberlain
and
I
may
be
missing
another
who
participated
in
the
initial
set
kent
carter,
who
who
participated
in
the
initial
set
of
recommendations
and
kim
phillip
right,
stayed
with
us
to
the
very
end,
to
help
look
at
the
100
individuals
who
raised
their
hand
and
wanted
to
apply
to
the
cob
board
and
allowed
us
to
pick
the
the
very
best
who
we
we
will
present
to
you
very
shortly.
F
So
the
ppg
issued
their
report
and
their
recommendation.
What
then
followed
were
engagement
sessions
to
share
that
work
and
get
further
feedback?
We
adopted
the
ordinance
in
july
and
for
the
better
part
of
the
fall
of
2021,
we
accepted
applications
for
people
to
join
the
cob
and
then
the
work
to
narrow
that
group
of
of
qualified
applicants
down
to
the
most
qualified
began,
and
we
completed
that
just
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
or
last
week.
F
It's
all
been
a
blur,
but
we've
recently
completed
that
and
in
the
interim
there
have
been
a
lot
of
developments
that
have
affected
the
work
of
the
cob
and
a
couple
of
them
I'll
note.
Just
we
had
a
bill
that
was
designed
to
strengthen
a
limitation
in
the
ordinance
that
we
knew
when
we
adopted
it.
We
weren't
able
to
have
the
best
model
for
civilian
oversight,
because
the
limitations
on
the
arlington
county
board
being
able
to
hire
staff
is
something
that
requires
state
action
to
reverse.
F
F
We
will
figure
out
a
way
to
work
around
that
in
the
short
term,
but
we've
then
just
gone
through
the
methodical
work
of
really
ascertaining
who
are
the
best
candidates,
and
we
are
thankful
that
we
have
the
nine
individuals
that
I
mentioned
a
minute
ago
and
one
more
slide,
I
think,
is
under
my
purview
before
I
turn
it
over
to
my
partner
in
crime.
Mr
d
ferrante
next
slide.
Please
or
is
this:
is
this
you
matt?
Oh
here
we
go
all
right.
So
what
happens
now?
What
happens
next?
F
This
is
where
the
real
work
of
the
cob
begins.
So
we
have
already
posted
the
position
for
the
independent
policing
auditor
to
be
hired
and
we
hope
to
be
able
to
do
that
in
short
order.
But
before
that's
even
done,
the
cob
will
convene
to
establish
their
practices
and
procedures
and
organizational
meeting
and
orientation.
F
If
you
will,
at
the
same
time,
they
will
schedule
out
and
map
out
a
number
of
required
training
modules
that
will
be
provided
for
them
so
that
they
can
be
grounded
in
the
best
information
possible
for
them
to
do
this
very
important
work
and
also
simultaneously,
they
will
work
with
our
arlington
county
police
department
to
establish
an
official
memorandum
of
understanding
that
will
guide
the
way
they
are
able
to
provide
their
review
and
oversight
responsibilities
and
once
they're
able
to
do
all
of
that,
they
will
then
be
able
to
certify
that
they
are
ready
to
begin
work.
B
Thank
you,
mr
vice
chair
dorsey,
for
the
work
together
on
this
and
looking
at
the
next
slide.
We
have
some
standards
that
were
in
the
ordinance
as
far
as
selecting
the
seven
voting
members
of
the
the
civilian
oversight
board
and
the
two
non-voting
members,
and
we
also
should
note
we
had
so
many
excellent
applications
and
we're
happy
that
we've
arrived
at
these
nine
and
we're
it
was
very
difficult
set
of
decisions
and
there
are
others
that
certainly
could
have
served.
We're
grateful
for
the
nine
that
we
have
who
have
served.
B
If
you
look,
this
is
describes
the
characteristics
that
are
critical
as
we
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
is
a
fair
objective,
independent,
diverse
and
representative
body.
B
The
it
must
by
state
law
reflect
the
demographic
diversity
of
the
county
and
we
have
delineated.
We've
started
with
a
chair,
so
if
you
look
at
parts
b
and
c
fairness,
integrity
and
objective
objectivity
are
critical
and
the
last
part
of
that
slide
just
describes
the
two
non-invoting
members
who
are
law
enforcement,
and
so
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
B
It
reflects
the
demographic
diversity
of
the
county,
in
addition
to
the
integrity,
fairness
and
objectivity
that
we
felt
was
critical
as
measured
by
age,
race
and
ethnicity,
gender
identity
and
residence.
B
So
with
that,
I
just
we
ought
to
to
to
recognize
will
a
point
in
just
a
minute.
We
have
selected
mr
dorsey
and
the
board
has
worked
together
to
to
select
a
chair
which
is
elise
ortiz
who
is
here
today.
Thank
you
very
much
miss
ortiz,
and
then
we
have
vice
chair,
mr
gary
dean,
who
is
here
today
and
then
we
have
julie,
evans,
jim
miller.
I
think
that's
correct,
I'm
sorry
and
then
martine
and
and
your
your
last
name.
B
I
will
oh
sorry
any
so
sorry,
enes
osorio,
and
I
think,
there's
no
doubt
that
mr
carantonis
of
spanish
is
better
than
mine,
but
I'm
still
doing
my
best.
Thank
you
very
much
for
coming
and
also
david
smith.
That's
six
of
the
nine
members!
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
I
mentioned
the
chair
and
vice
chair.
We
are
thrilled
and
I
will
send
it
back
to
the
chair
as
we
go
ahead
and
appoint.
A
Thank
you
so
much
and
I
believe
we
may
also
be
joined
by
anika
montgomery
on
the
phone,
so
we're
glad
to
have
her
with
us
as
well
I'll
join
my
colleagues
in
expressing
my
enthusiasm
as
we
had
the
opportunity
to
do
and
meeting
you
all
just
a
few
moments
ago
for
your
applications,
your
willingness
to
serve
your
motivations
to
serve
and
for
the
work
ahead.
A
So
it
is
with
a
great
deal
of
pleasure
that
I
move
the
following
appointments:
inclusive
of
not
only
our
new
community
oversight
board
members,
but
a
few
others
serving
our
community.
A
I
move
that
we
appoint
to
the
citizens
advisory
commission
on
housing,
margaret
mcgilvray
for
a
term
ending
march
31st
of
2026
to
the
commission
on
the
status
of
women,
reappoint
caroline
romano
for
a
term
ending
february
28
2025,
reappoint
to
the
community
development
citizens,
advisory
committee,
carlton
newton
for
a
term
ending
march
31st
of
2025
and
appoint
nicholas
cicero
for
a
term
ending
march
31st
of
2025.
G
A
A
That's
right
all
right.
We
will
move
on
now
to
some
board
member
and
regional
reports
for
those
who've
joined
us.
We're
so
grateful
to
have
you.
You
are
welcome
to
stay.
You
are
no
means
by
no
means
expected
to
so
with
that.
I
will
turn
it
over
to
ms
garvey,
who
has
a
couple
of
a
few
reports
for
us
today,
ms
garvey,
over
to
you.
I
Yeah,
thank
you
yeah.
I
don't
think
I've
done
report
reports
and
suddenly
I'm
doing
three
of
them.
The
first
one
I
just
want
to
mention
the
the
community
engagement
form
on
aging
that
our
chair
and
I
attended
yesterday
for
a
couple
of
reasons:
one.
It
was
the
the
first
ever
hybrid
meeting
that
they've
tried
and
it
worked
really
well.
We
had
four
satellite
locations.
We
had
translations
services
into
spanish,
vietnamese
and
korean
turns
out
in
listening
to
things
about
25.
I
A
quarter
of
our
elderly
population
speaks
a
language
other
than
english,
so
translation
is
really
important.
We
had
a
dynamite
speaker,
dr
joan
vernicos,
I
think
she's
88
years
old.
She
was
the
director
of
nasa's
life
science
division
for
a
number
of
years.
She
also
she
and
her
husband
began
the
first
white
chocolate
truffle
making
in
europe,
for
I
mean
what
what
a
spread
she
also
was.
The
was
the
person
who
determined
that
john
glenn
can
go
back
into
space.
I
think
at
age,
77.
I
she's
an
amazing
woman,
she's
written
a
book,
and
this
is
actually
for
my
colleagues.
I'm
doing
this
little
as
a
psa.
The
book's
called
sitting
kills
moving
heels
and
in
a
lot
of
research.
What
she's
found
is
it's
really
important
to
get
up
and
move
around
and
actually,
if
you
sit
for
a
long
time
and
then
do
a
burst
of
really
heavy
duty
exercise,
that
is
not
nearly
for
you,
as
it
is
to
just
constantly
get
up
like
every
30
minutes
and
we
sit
here
for
hours
at
time
and
so
does
our
staff.
I
I
I
hope
I
don't
groan
too
loudly,
sometimes
when
I
sit
up
stand
up,
but
anyway,
I
just
think
we
need
to
be
aware
of
that
as
a
community
and
even
as
a
board
for
ourselves
and
our
staff
that
now
that
we're
going
back
into
not
not
virtual,
so
much
for
being
in
person
or
sitting
again
for
long
periods
of
time
and
just
get
up
and
move
around
and
do
little
things.
I
It's
nothing
to
get
up
and
do
a
few
dishes
pick
up
the
mail,
something
it
doesn't
have
to
be
major
so
anyway,
I
found
it
very
valuable
and
really
enjoying
that.
The
next
item
I
wanted
to
talk
about
just
briefly
is
the
arlington
regional
master,
naturalist,
whitetail,
deer
and
forest
health
in
northern
virginia.
This
pamphlet,
which
I
think
I
left
in
all
of
your
desks.
They
are
doing
great
work
on
trying
to
spread
information
and
educate
our
community
about
the
issue
of
deer
here
and
deer
are
beautiful.
I
I
love
them
too,
but
when
you
get
too
many
of
them,
they
cause
trouble
for
everyone,
including
themselves,
and
I
know
you
often
people
often
can
feel
like.
Well,
we
love
deer.
We
love
nature.
We
want
to
protect
them,
yes,
but
and
I'll
move
to
the
next
slide.
Please
this
shows
what
happens
so
to
the
right.
It
says
forest
heavily
browsed
by
deer.
The
thing
is
that
when
there
are
a
lot
of
deer
they
have
to
eat
and
they
eat
a
lot
to
the
left
is
a
healthy
forest
understory.
I
Now
I
want
just
a
couple
of
quick
things.
One
of
the
things
about
this
healthy
forest
is,
it's
got
baby
trees
growing
up
and,
of
course,
trees
do
not
live
forever
as
we're
all
too
aware
here
we're
trying
to
keep
our
tree
canopy
going
and
if
we
have
no
baby
trees
coming
up,
we
no
matter
what
we
do
right
now
we're
not
going
to
have
a
future
of
trees.
Here
in
arlington,
it's
really
crucial
to
keep
those
baby
trees
growing.
Also
in
that
understory
there
are
all
kinds
of
creatures
that
live
there.
I
They're
turtles,
they're
little
birds,
they're
chipmunks,
most
of
them,
are
pretty
cute.
Some
people
find
salamanders
cute,
you've
got
salamanders
and
those
their
habitat
is
destroyed
by
the
deer,
so
that
this
this
picture
on
the
right
it
it
looks
kind
of
pretty
when
you
first
look
at
it,
but
it's
actually
quite
barren
and
not
healthy
for
almost
anything,
including
the
deer,
because
when
you've
got
too
many
deer,
they
don't
get
enough
to
eat.
They
have
health
problems
and
the
whole
thing
gets
out
of
balance.
I
It's
out
of
balance,
obviously
because
deer
don't
have
natural
predators,
they're
limited
to
a
certain
small
space
anyway,
there's
a
lot
of
work
and
research
being
done.
We've
got
a
study
that
has
been
completed,
and
I
know
our
park
staff
are
are
working
on
what
to
do
about
the
about
the
deer.
I
think
we're
going
to
need
to
do
some
culling
most
of
our
surrounding
jurisdictions.
Do
that
for
the
health
of
actually
everybody
concerned,
including
the
deer.
So
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
let
people
know.
I
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
start
thinking
about
that.
It's
not
something
you
think
about
as
an
issue
for
arlington,
but
it
is
and
becoming
more
of
an
issue.
Every
year
and
then
finally,
I
talk
a
little
bit,
I'm
the
you
know
liaison
to
the
arlington
sister
cities
committee
and
if
we
can
have
the
next
slide,
please,
and
we,
our
sister
city
in
ivano
frankiesk,
is-
has
come
under
attack
along
with
the
rest
of
the
country,
not
as
badly
as
some
places,
but
things
are
not
looking
good
there
at
all.
I
I
think
all
of
us
want
to
do
what
we
can,
so
I
just
wanted
to
notice.
These
are
some
note
that
these
are
some
ways
you
can
help.
The
arlington
sister
city
association
has
a
they've
got
a
web
page.
I
They
also
have
a
facebook
page,
which
I
think
is
is
more
helpful
and
they
are
working
very
hard
to
to
notify
folks
about
ways
they
can
help
help
our
friends
in
ukraine
and
the
next
slide
is:
we've
got
an
event
coming
up
on
sunday
and
it's
a
fundraiser
for
a
number
of
groups,
world
central
kitchen,
international
red
cross,
it's
run
by
at
northside
social
and
our
sister
cities,
organization
and
others
are
coming
together
to
to
do
this,
and
if
you'd
like
to
stop
by
and
help
support,
I
think
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
great
it's
going
to
be
a
great
event.
I
I
know
it
always
feels
like
we're
doing
not
much,
but
I
think
every
little
bit
helps
and
the
more
awareness
builds
the
more
there's
global
pressure
to
try
to
bring
this
horrible
horrible
invasion
to
to
a
halt,
and
then
finally
I'll
just
mention
I
am
going
to
fairfax
tomorrow
morning,
we're
going
to
have
a
press
conference.
The
northern
virginia
regional
commission
has
is
putting
together
a
collection
effort,
we're
going
to
have
a
bin
at
a
central
library.
I
If
people
have
got
lightly
used
clothes
coats,
blankets
to
leave-
and
I
will
say
I
do
think
cash-
and
the
kind
of
fundraising
that
we're
doing
here
is
probably
overall,
more
useful.
I
But
the
northern
virginia
regional
commission
has
got
connections
and
there
is
a
ukrainian
gentleman
in
wilmington
north
carolina
who
is
in
shipping,
and
he
will
get
all
of
the
goods
that
we
get
to
him
on
a
boat
and
get
it
to
amsterdam
and
where
it
will
be
picked
up
by
trucks,
and
it
will
be
then
taken
to
poland
where
there
are
non-pro.
I
You
know
relief
agencies
and
churches
waiting
and
wanting
these
these
goods,
so
they've
got
a
home
and
we've
got
shipping
from
here
from
this
area
in
northern
virginia
down
to
wilmington.
So
all
of
the
network's
been
set
up.
People
are
all
coming
together.
It
does
send
an
important
message
of
support,
so
if
people
would
like
to
drop
off
items
at
the
central
library
that
will
start
tomorrow,
I
think
the
press
conference
will
come
out.
I'm
sorry,
I
do
not
know
how
long
it's
going
to
go.
I
That
may
depend
on
how
the
collections
go,
but
welcome
people
to
to
contribute
and
and
help
out.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
doing
that
on
our
behalf,
ms
garvey.
We
really
appreciate
it.
Okay,
we'll
move
now
into
our
regional
reports,
both
from
the
council
of
government
metropolitan
washington
council
government's
first,
a
climate
update
from
mr
dorsey,
followed
by
regional
forecasting
process
update
for
mr
karen
tonis,
mr
dorsey,
over
team.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
so
remind
you
that
kaga's
been
working
under
a
framework
to
bring
all
of
the
the
work
that
has
been
done
over
in
previous
years
to
not
only
a
central
planning
focus
but
to
start
to
identify
real
outcomes
that
we
want
to
achieve.
F
That
effort
has
been
branded
region
united
and
it
is
based
on
four
pillars.
It
is
about
once
increasing
prosperity
in
areas
that
have
been
through
analysis,
determined
to
be
equity,
emphasis,
areas
and
increasing
outcomes,
economic
outcomes
and
security
outcomes
for
people
who
live
in
equity
emphasis
areas.
It's
about
increasing
accessibility
and
mobility
through
high-capacity
transit
that
has
largely
been
invested
in
already
enhancing
livability,
not
through
quality
of
life
investments,
but
by
actually
providing
places
for
people
to
live
literally
through
housing,
production
and
sustainability
through
climate
goals
and
action.
F
So
in
previous
months,
we
have
looked
at
housing
this
past
month.
We
we
looked
at
climate
and
fundamentally
it
is
about
taking
the
planning
work
that
has
been
done
on
climate
from
a
regional
level
which
has
been
done
by
the
the
by
cog
by
the
cog
board
itself,
but
also
by
the
tpb
as
well.
Taking
that
work
and
translating
the
planning
into
action,
so
that
was
our
focus
and
the
way
in
which
we
are
beginning
to
to
sort
of
work
on
this
true
for
housing.
F
True
for
climate,
true
for
mobility
and
true
for
equity,
is
to
really
on
a
monthly
basis,
do
deep
dives,
where
we
have
an
opportunity
to
have
some
peer-to-peer
learning
going
on
looking
at
jurisdictions
that
are
really
well
advanced
in
this
work
and
sharing
that
information,
so
that
others
can
learn
from
it,
but
also
looking
at
jurisdictions
that
are
just
beginning
the
work,
because
it's
certainly
true
that
not
everyone
is
at
the
far
advanced
level.
F
You
know
this
has
got
to
go
everywhere.
This
has
got
to
be
something
that
is
made
available
to
all
the
stakeholder
groups
throughout
the
region,
who
can
be
effective
partners
in
this
work?
So
that's
that's
our
approach.
F
F
Fortunately,
in
220,
we've
reached
the
2020
goal
for
the
most
part
about
one
percent
off
of
the
2020
goal,
which
is
pretty
good.
However,
the
goals
get
more
ambitious
and
harder
over
time.
In
order
to
reach
the
2030
and
the
2050
goal,
the
technical
term
is,
we
really
have
to
step
up
our
game,
and
so,
in
order
to
step
up,
we
can't
just
let
this
plan
sit
on
the
shelf.
F
We've
got
to
think
about
things
a
little
bit
differently
and
if
we
can
look
at
the
next
slide,
one
of
the
areas
that
we
think
is
prime
for
stepping
up
our
game
is
looking
at
accelerating
a
few
key
opportunities
in
the
electricity
sector,
and
so
accelerating
ev
deployment
and
the
infrastructure
necessary
to
have
evs
functionally
deployed
throughout
the
region
is
an
area
where
I
think
we
can
provide
some
some
regional
support,
but
also
you
know,
take
over
some
of
the
regional
planning
because
it
really
doesn't
make
sense
for
every
jurisdiction
to
come
up
with
its
own
ev
infrastructure
plan,
since
people
do
have
this
ability
to
kind
of
travel
from
jurisdiction
to
jurisdiction.
F
So
we
have
to
think
about
this
as
a
regional
network
and
not
just
the
jurisdiction
by
jurisdiction
approach
and
also,
as
we
think,
about
the
goals
that
we
have
outlined
in
arlington
already
and
are
largely
have
already
largely
achieved
in
terms
of
sourcing,
our
renewable
energy
from
sourcing
our
energy
from
100
renewable
sources.
That
is
not
common.
F
We
need
to
make
sure
that
that
is
something
that's
achieved
throughout
the
region,
so
sharing
those
best
practices,
but
also
then
identifying
key
opportunities
that
the
region
has
to
to
get
to
those
goals
is,
is
a
key
area
of
focus,
and
then
you
know,
as
we
talked
about
a
lot
in
arlington,
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
our
emissions
reductions.
F
Targets
are
going
to
come
from
the
built
environment
and
making
buildings
more
energy
efficient,
and
we
are
by
no
means
as
a
region
at
the
a-plus
level,
of
where
we
need
to
be
in
order
to
see
that
incentives,
the
carrots
or
regulations
the
sticks
are
where
they
need
to
be
in
order
to
get
the
kind
of
building
energy
performance
that
we
need
next
slide
please
and
to
support
this
work
there's.
F
Fortunately,
it's
not
going
to
be
up
to
us
to
figure
it
out
on
our
own
there's
a
lot
of
money
available
through
the
bipartisan
infrastructure
law
that
can
make
possible
some
real
growth
for
our
region
in
these
areas.
Here
are
a
few
of
the
programs
and,
as
you
can
see,
they
have
substantial
amounts
of
dollars
that
are
available.
F
F
If
we're
truly
going
to
do
something
to
scale
to
make
a
difference,
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
have
montgomery
county
competing
for
dollars
in
arlington
competing
for
dollars,
and
you
know
maybe,
as
a
region,
we
can
come
together
and
have
a
stronger
case
to
be
made
for
a
significant
share
of
those
discretionary
funds.
So
that's
the
focus,
I
think
that's
it
in
terms
of
my
slides
and
just
happy
to
share
the
work
with
you
and
the
planning
framework
has
been
put
together
into
a
a
lay
person
friendly
format.
A
Mr
dorsey,
and
with
that
to
speaking
and
quite
related,
we'll
turn
it
over
to
mr
carantonis
about
the
regional
forecasting
process
happening
at
council.
Governments.
E
Thank
you
and
this.
What
I'm
going
to
present
is
not
you
know
very
far
away
from
what
mr
dorsey
has
just
presented.
It's
actually
looking
a
little
bit
behind
the
scenes
and
how
the
metropolitan
washington
council
of
governments
is
actually
preparing
to
support
this
policies
and
to
support
the
work
that
all
this
all
our
metropolitan
jurisdictions
are
doing
to
reach.
You.
J
E
To
be
to
get
closer
to
these
goals,
I
mean
the
2020
emissions
goal.
We
have
now
almost
gone
there
18.5,
but
that
included
the
year
2020,
which
was
a
very
low
admissions
year
but
anyway,
so
one
one
of
the
prerequisites
to
to
do
proper
planning
in
the
metropolitan
region
and
being
able
to
coordinate
different
jurisdictions
and
different
levels
of
you
know,
problem
solving
ability
etc.
Is
to
it's
the
update
of
our
regional
econometric
model.
This
is
basically
our
our
planning
base,
the
quantitative
system
with
which
we
can
predict.
E
You
know
how
many,
how
much
housing
are
we
going
to
to
need
how
what
what
kind
of
transportation
policies
do
we
need
to
have
in
place
in
order
to
get
to
our
goals
and
the
econometric
model?
The
prerequisite
to
the
to
having
a
regional
econometric
model
is
to
gather
together,
consolidate
the
local
forecasts,
so
everything
that
I'm
going
to
report
today
from
our
convey
today
is
is
is
based
on
putting
together
consolidating
existing
policies.
So
this
is
stuff
that
local
governments
have
already
committed
to
do
so.
E
This
is
pretty
accurate
in
a
sense
that
it
is
not
wishful
thinking.
What
that
goes
into
the
model
here,
but
actually
approved
lan
other
land
use
decisions,
transportation
decisions
another.
Typically,
this
econometric
model
covers
a
span
of
25
years.
The
current
span
is
from
2020
to
2025,
so
cog
is
preparing
now
to
a
new
round
of
that
to
start
in
25,
going
on
until
2050.
E
note
to
that,
2050
was
also
our
ultimate
goal
in
in
reducing
emissions,
which
we
talked
a
couple
of
times
of
how
tough
this
will
be
next
slide,
please
so
the
raw
data,
according
to
the
current
prediction
for
the
current
25
years,
which
started
in
2020
and
goes
to
2045.,
we
are
a
region
right
now
of
three
million
three
three.
These
are.
These
are
three
three
point.
Three
three
point:
three
million
jobs.
This
is
a
lot
I
mean
we
have.
E
We
have
talked
here
in
arlington
about
how
much
the
impact
of
27
000
amazon
employees
will
be,
but
it
is
always
important
to
put
it
into
into
context
and
we
and
we
are
expecting
that
the
current
model,
with
a
current
update,
this
year's
update
is
expected
to
grow
to
4.2
million
jobs
population.
We
are
5.7
million
people
region.
We
are
expected
to
grow
to
7
million
and
the
number
of
households
from
22.1
million
to
2.6
million.
All
in
all,
they
are
these.
E
This
growth
rate
is
about
25,
so
we
are
a
one
percent
a
year
in
average
growing
region.
This
is
not
too
fast.
This
is
not
amazingly
high.
This
is
actually
a
very
manageable
pace,
but
we
see
already
that,
even
with
one
with
this
one
percent
per
year,
how
much
of
of
an
effort
we
have
to
put
in
housing
and
transportation,
environmental
policy,
etc,
etc.
Next
slide,
please
the
regional
forecast.
I
wanted
to
include
these
this
couple
of
slides
here.
E
This
slide
the
next
one
to
just
situate
people
and
and
our
our
you
know.
We
have
a
public
discussion
here
of
how
fast
arlington
county
is
growing,
where
arlington
county
falls
in
the
in
the
general.
You
know,
spectrum
of
of
the
region
here
is
a
it's
a
projection
of
household
growth.
According
to
the
current
model.
Again
so
arlington
cardiac
highlighted
that
in
in
yellow,
we
expect
a
29.4
percent
increase
in
in
household
growth,
so
number
of
households
in
argentina.
E
Currently,
in
2020
we
had
109
000
households
and
we
expect
to
to
have
another
32
might
grow
by
another
32
000
households
in
the
next
year.
So
that's
that
29.4,
if
you
look
in
in
our
neighboring
jurisdictions,
like
the
district
of
columbia,
is
probably
it's
probably
in
the
same
league,
but
I
wanted
to
to
point
out
the
the
the
percentage
of
growth
that
goes
to
the
city
of
alexandria,
for
example,
which
is
37,
which
is
significantly
higher
than
ours.
Charles
count,
it's
52.8
percent
city
of
broccoli
is
36.6.
E
You
see
here
that
we
have
you
know
a
the
core
of
the
region
is
more
or
less
synchronized
here
and
close
to
the
general
growth
of
the
region,
but
the
periphery
of
the
region-
and
you
know,
as
we
go
a
little
bit
around
the
the
beltway-
is
growing
faster
next
slide.
Please
this
is
the
employment
growth
which
has
been
you
know.
We
have
been
talking
a
lot
about
that.
We
know
that
jobs
are
are
driving
growth
so
again
the
the
number
of
jobs
in
arlington.
E
We
have
right
now,
that's
the
the
yellow
highlighted
we
have
20
230
000
jobs
approximately,
and
we
expect
to
grow
according
to
the
current
model
by
another
61.5
000..
So
this
is
a
26.8
growth.
This
rhymes
a
little
bit
with
our
population
household
growth.
We
are
still
a
one
point,
something
average
growing
jurisdiction,
but
look,
for
example,
loudoun
county
in
prince
william
county,
just
behind
us,
36.8
and
56
percent,
and
with
a
as
a
dynamic
of
our
pri
of
our
southern
neighbors.
E
This,
I
think,
is
remarkable
and
it's
worth
looking
at
that,
because
it
also
you
know
if,
if
they
grow
in
jobs,
like
that,
the
the
infrastructure
that
has
to
connect
the
region
has
to
be
at
a
very
different
level,
for
example,
if
if
indeed
this
this
forecast
is
accurate
and
I
have
all
the
confidence
that
it
is
pretty
well
done
next
slide,
please
mister.
E
I
will,
I
will
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
vacancy
rates,
because
these
are
the
very
the
variables
that
go
into
into
the
the
current
projections
in
northern
virginia.
We
have
seen
and
we've
seen
what
we
have
seen
here
in
arlington,
which
was
an
increase
of
of
office.
Vacancy
rates
was
significant.
We
are
at
sixteen
percent.
You
know
we're
a
little
bit
up
above
that,
so
this
is
something
to
be
concerned
about
next
slide.
Please
the
office
occupancy,
so
how
how
how
many
people
return
to
work
right
now.
E
That
was
that
was
an
interesting
insight
for
me,
because
we
have
a
way
to
tell
how
many
people
are
actually
swiping
their
badges
and
go
and
go
into
into
offices,
and
this
is
now
look
in
december
21.
It
was
it
really
bottomed
down
like
17.5
in
in
our
region,
in
in
14
15
in
our
region,
and
then
it
it's
climbing
up
slowly,
where
35,
so
barely
one
third
of
office
workers
are
back
in
in
their
offices.
Next,
one
returned
work
preferences
among
current
teleworkers.
E
65
percent
wants
to
come,
go
back
to
work,
but
to
commute
only
some
days,
so
a
hybrid
model
is
here
really
the
winner.
This
is
among
current
teleworkers.
We
have
had
a
lot
of
conversations
about
the
future
of
our
office
market
based
on
on
what
happened
during
the
pandemic.
This
is
actually
giving
us
a
first
glimpse
of
how
people
think
about
going
back
to
work
in
the
next
slide.
E
Please,
and
here
is
a
telework
preferences
by
age,
and
this
is
an
interesting
to
me
because
we
see
that
approximately
50
percent
wants
to
go
back
to
work
as
we
knew
it
so
always
to
you
know
five
five
days
a
week
to
an
office
but
different
ages,
see
that
divine
ages
see
that
differently.
E
So
I
was
very
surprised,
for
example,
that
that
the
in
in
the
bracket
of
18
to
29,
year
olds
and
30
to
39
years
old,
only
19
or
21
percent
want
to
keep
tele
working
as
they
as
they
do
today.
That
is
completely
100
teleworking,
while
slightly
older
folks,
you
know,
are
significantly
higher
in
their
propensity
to
to
to
want
to
stay
to
stay
at
home.
E
So
you
know
that
tells
us
a
lot
chair
crystal
knows
about
what
what
one
variable
would
be
about
that
you
know
who
has
the
youngest
children,
for
example
in
the
household,
but
we
don't
know
that
I
just.
I
was
just
amazed
to
see
the
difference
as
well
as
to
see
there
is
still
a
significantly
higher
resilience
than
I
expected
for
traditional
go
going
back
to
the
office
preferences,
and
that
would
conclude
it.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
very
interesting
snapshot
into
not
only
behavior
but
some
of
the
preferences
of
the
region
and
how
they're
playing
out
as
well
as
some
of
the
our
data
on
growth
trends.
Thank
you
both
all
right,
I'm
gonna
now
engage
our
manager.
I
believe
we
have
three
presentations
from
him
today.
I'm
beginning
mr
manager,
right
with
an
update
on
our
noise
ordinance.
K
K
Yes,
russell
dano
schroeder
is
here
and
he's
going
to
pop
up
here.
You
know
we
are
wanted
to
provide
an
informational
update
on
where
we
are
with
the
affordable
housing
master
plan,
implementation
framework
and
it's
an
administrative
document
that
we've
been
working
on
quite
diligently
over
the
last
year
and
a
half,
and
there
are
a
number
of
recommendations
in
that
and
without
further
ado,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
russell.
L
Thank
you,
mr
manager,
so
the
affordable
housing
master
plan
review
began
back
in
2020
five
years
after
the
adoption
of
the
affordable
housing
master
plan.
Today's
report
at
will
conclude
the
review
and
will
largely
focus
on
the
affordable
housing
master
plan
implementation
framework.
The
implementation
framework
is
an
administrative
document.
There's
no
county
board
action
associated
with
this
and
we're
reporting
to
you
today
as
a
matter
of
information.
L
L
L
The
third
and
essential
question
of
the
review
is:
how
can
we
better
achieve
the
goals
and
objectives
of
the
affordable
housing
master
plan?
This
is
the
basic
question
that
we
put
to
the
community
and
discussed
last
year
a
little
bit
about
our
community
engagement.
We
kicked
off
the
review
last
year
in
january,
with
several
events
related
to
the
release
of
both
the
needs
analysis
and
the
five-year
report
followed
by
an
online
line
feedback
tool.
L
The
deep
dive
into
the
review
took
place
through
the
housing
commission's
tools
and
trends
committee,
which
held
eight
meetings
to
look
at
the
goals,
objectives
and
policies
of
the
affordable
housing
master
plan.
In
addition,
staff
also
met
with
various
county
commissions
and
county
organizations
throughout
the
review.
L
An
implementation
framework
identifies
the
activities
and
programs
that
the
county
will
employ
to
achieve
the
adopted
county
policy.
That's
an
administrative
document,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
that
is
guidance
from
the
county
manager
to
staff
that
helps
to
focus
the
county's
actions
in
response
to
the
policy
established
by
the
county
board.
L
L
L
L
Also,
the
experiences
over
the
last
two
years
has
led
us
to
focus
greater
attention
on
the
quality
of
our
committed,
affordable
housing.
To
this
end,
we
are
working
on
a
long-term
strategy
for
improved
oversight
and
tenant
support
at
aging,
committed,
affordable
properties
that
include
conducting
capital
needs
assessments,
increasing
the
number
of
physical
inspections.
L
Among
other
actions,
our
affordable
housing
efforts
will
continue
to
advance
the
county's
other
priorities,
and
we
will
continue
to
incentivize
measures
that
align
with
community
energy
plan,
supporting
the
conversion
from
carbon-based,
carbon-free
systems
and
appliances
and
committed,
affordable
housing
will
help
the
county
achieve
these
and
other
goals,
particularly
fitting.
Given
the
presentation
by
mr
dorsey
earlier
this
evening,
the
second
area
of
recommendations
focuses
on
land
use
policy
tools.
L
L
L
In
addition
to
these
recommendations
for
existing
and
new
activities
that
are
highlighted
today,
the
county
will
maintain
the
established
tools,
programs
and
services
that
the
county
has
developed
over
the
years
to
address
our
communities,
affordable,
housing
needs.
Some
of
these
include
the
tenant
assistance
fund,
home
buyer
education,
eviction,
prevention,
code
enforcement.
It's
a
long
list.
I
won't
go
through
them
all.
I
Yeah
I
wasn't
gonna
ask
you
probably
have
some
some
good
questions,
I'm
just
struck
by
the
kind
of
much
more
holistic
approach.
I
think
it's
great
looking
at
the
tenants
supports
you
know,
looking
at
the
the
inventory
as
a
whole
and
and
rethinking
home
ownership,
I'm
just
really
pleased
to
see
the
approach
and
thank
you
just
want
to
say.
Thank
you.
No,
no
insightful
questions.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
H
F
Dorsey
no
insightful
questions
here
either.
Just
a
thank
you
is
really
a
nice
suite
of
of
work,
and
I
think
the
timeline
makes
makes
sense
and
is
pleasing,
at
least
to
my
ear.
F
The
question
really
is
about:
how
are
we
going
to
rethink
homeownership?
I
mean
this
is
something
that's
kind
of
vexed
lots
of
people
for
a
very
long
time
due
to
the
complex
nature
of
you
know,
various
models
that
you
have
to
bring
home
ownership
to
people
who
are
income,
constrained,
financing
issues
and
limitations
for
us
to
exert
control
over
those
like
so
is,
is
that
it
like
we're
just
gonna
sort
of
put
everything
in
the
blender
and
hopefully
come
up
with
something
well.
L
We'll
be
coming
forward
with
a
scope
on
that
very
soon,
but
I
think
it's
addressing
that
fundamental
question
is:
is
our
home
ownership
program?
Should
they
be
aimed
at
addressing
the
wealth
gap
or
is
it
something
else?
Is
it
about
because
oftentimes
too
often
we're
not
seeing
the
types
of
outcomes
that
we
would
like
to
see
with
the
program?
So
it's
we
really
need
to
have
a
clear,
clear
outcome,
clear
goal,
kind
of
at
the
onset
and
tailor
our
programs
to
achieve
that.
F
A
These
are
legacy
programs
rooted
in
both
cases
and
very
good
aspirational
goals,
but
we
could
spend
an
awful
lot
of
money
in
both
areas
and
we
do
actually,
at
least
in
the
case
of
the
former,
spend
an
awful
lot
of
money
so
being
better
aligned
to
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
sounds
like
a
really
excellent
thought,
because
homeownership
serves
a
whole
variety
of
goals
right
so
keying
into
what
matters
most
to
our
community
seems
like
a
great
one.
I
M
L
We
we
included
in
the
back
of
the
implementation
framework,
all
the
suggestions
that
we
received.
That
said
with
some
explanation
of
why
they're,
perhaps
not
recommendations
and
those
would
be
on
the
table,
would
be
potential
resources
and
things
that
we
could
bring
to
bear
depending
on
whether
they
really
suit
the
outcome
that
were
that
is
defined
through
that
study.
So
so
co-op
is
certainly
an
an
option.
B
So
I
think
I
really
appreciate
the
work.
I've
not
read
all
34
pages,
but
I
have
it
on
my
list
and
I
will
want
to
look
at
it.
I
guess
it's
just
a
request
to
see
if
it's
possible
to
have
a
short
two
by
two,
a
briefing
where
I
can.
We
can
try
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
home
ownership
and
then
also,
I
think
I
need
a
refresher
on
the
components
because
I
think
it's
split
between
state
law
on
the
housing
ordinance
and
then
local
components
of
it.
B
So
if
I
could
follow
up
with
a
rather
than
a
long
question
I'll
just
see
if
I
can
follow
up
and
see
if
we
can
have
30
minutes,
if
that's
possible,
certainly.
E
Oh,
thank
you.
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
for
presenting
that
today
this
is
excellent.
It's
a
I'd,
say
it's
a
lot
of
work
and
I
think
I
hope
that
the
resources
and
the
staff
time
is
is
in
place
to
to
accomplish
that.
I
mean
the
the
the
issue
that
we
just
mentioned
the
homeownership,
but
this
is
one
of
the
toughest
one
and
I
have
to
say
I
mean
I
personally
don't
have
the
illusion
that
we
are
addressing
wealth
gaps
today
with
a
program
that
we
have.
E
We've
helped
some
households,
but
really
the
world
cup.
We,
we
probably
are
making
a
very,
very,
very
minuscule,
infinitesimally
small
dent
into
that.
So
my
question
is
you
referred
specifically
to
below
40
ami
and
and
if
I,
this
is
a
small
number
of
of
households
that
we
haven't
committed,
affordable
house
units
that
we
have
today
under
40,
it's
about
280
county
wide,
which
is
actually
one
number
that
has
been
increasing,
as
opposed,
for
example,
to
60
marks
that
has
been
decreasing.
E
L
L
We
recognize
that
we're
not
looking
for
a
project
to
come
forward,
that's
all
40
ami
units
or
below
30..
I
think
that
would
be
a
bad
idea,
but
to
get
a
better
mix
of
income
within
our
existing,
affordable
stock
is
is
kind
of
the
starting
point
and
as
we
build
stock
to
incorporate
deeper
affordability
units
as
we
go.
A
Just
one
question
for
me,
which
is-
and
you
had
alluded
to
this
in
the
summary
as
well.
Thank
you.
First
of
all,
it's
really
it's
nice
to
see
how
this
is
iterating
in
the
five
years
since
this
adoption-
or
I
guess
at
this
point
six
years
since
this
is
about
seven
seven
years,
all
right.
A
What
have
the
last
two
years
been
anyway,
if
not
a
recursive
loop
of
time,
we've
heard
an
increasing
amount
of
advocacy
from
some
in
the
community
around
using
fair
housing
as
a
framework
through
which
to
analyze
a
lot
of
our
ongoing
policy,
land
use,
housing
programs
and
other
efforts.
I
think,
and
and
the
implementation
framework
is
pretty
consistent
with
we've
generally
thought
about
this
as
fair
housing
in
arlington.
A
As
you
know,
sort
of
testing
for,
for
example,
discrimination,
right,
trying
to
sort
of
affirmatively,
encourage
non-discrimination
and
then
finding
it
when
there
are
instances
of
it-
and
I
think
we've
started
to
hear
from
advocacy
from
some
corners
to
say
that
you
know
arlington
should
instead
be
starting
with
a
disparate
impact
of
the
sum
of
all
of
our
kind
of
policies
in
the
the
housing
markets.
A
As
a
way
of
reorienting
how
we
think
about
the
issues
of
housing,
I
was
interested
in
whether
that
had
come
up
at
all
in
the
conversations
and
community
engagements.
You
all
have
done
advocacy
some
from
a
couple
on
the
tenant,
landlord
commission,
the
naacp
and
others
about
really
trying
to
do
a
much
more
robust,
fair
housing
plan.
Almost,
I
think,
from
what
I've
seen
of
their
letter
to
us,
for
example,
at
the
scale
of
an
affordable
housing
master
plan.
A
I
wondered
if
that
had
come
up
at
all
in
the
engagement,
and
I
know
as
well
that
staff
is
participating
in
some
of
board
members
participating
in
cogs
regional
work.
So
could
you
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
kind
of
what's
afoot,
regionally
and
maybe
in
the
future,
in
arlington
with
regard
to
fair
housing
as
well
as
the
extent
those
conversations
were
had
during
public
engagement.
L
Certainly
and
unfortunately,
yes
certainly
and
unfortunately,
my
colleague,
joel
franklin,
who's
worked
with
me
side
by
side
on
this-
is
in
his
civic
duty
in
in
in
the
district
of
columbia
this
week
so
but
he's
working
on
the
county's,
fair
housing
plan,
and
so
we
we've
been
receiving
input
on
both
of
these
things
kind
of
at
the
same
time
and
there's
some,
I
think
things
that
carry
over
one
from
the
other.
L
A
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
I
supposedly
mr
franklin
as
well
working
with
cog
on
the
regional
look
as
well.
That's.
L
A
Excellent
well,
we
wish
him
the
smoothest
jury
duty
possible
and
hopefully
we
can
follow
up
with
him
on
that
soon,
all
right,
any
other
questions,
seeing
none,
mr
manager,
back
to
you.
K
Okay,
thank
you
russell.
Thank
you.
I
wanted
to
give
you
my
monthly
update
on
covid.
I
have
a
lot
of
material
to
work
through
and
hopefully
not
quite
yet,
but
I
want
to
put
up
a
graphic
that
will
hopefully
summarize
some
of
the
material.
K
Madam
chairs,
you,
as
you
have
noted
on
march
3rd,
we
I
issued
some
guidance
that
made
masks
optional
for
public
and
most
employees,
not
all
employees.
We
still
have
a
mask
requirement
in
some
specific
locations
where
we
have
health
and
medical
services
provided
and
also
public
transportation,
and
also
to
note
the
pandemic
isn't
over,
but
we're
in
a
new
phase.
The
sure
sign
that
it's
not
over
is
we
continue
to
see
cases
of
covet
in
arlington
and
we
dropped
to
24
cases
per
day
in
the
early
part
of
this
month.
K
K
We
have
87
percent
of
our
residents,
who
are
five
years
and
older
have
at
least
one
dose
and
78
percent
fully
vaccinated
boosters
continue
to
be
recommended
for
everybody
over
the
age
of
12,
and
this
week
the
virginia
department
of
health
sent
text
messages
to
all
arlington
residents
who
are
eligible
for
a
booster
shot
to
remind
them,
and
these
voice
or
text
messages.
I
I
know
we
get
a
lot
of
stuff.
These
are
actually
legitimate
messages
from
the
virginia
department
of
health
they're,
not
a
hoax
or
a
scam,
and
please
pay
attention
to
that.
K
And
if
you
can
get
a
booster
please
do
it.
There's
a
lot
of
conversation
out
there
now
in
the
public
about
a
second
booster
and
conversations
about
whether
the
federal
government
has
enough
money
to
do
that.
So
an
update
on
that
the
fda
is
going
to
be
holding
meeting
on
april.
6
to
discuss
the
next
steps
on
a
second
booster,
and
there
are
proposals
in
from
both
modern
and
pfizer
on
that,
and
our
public
health
clinics
will
be
ready.
K
Now
we
had,
let's
see
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
more
information.
We
have
about
198
000
vaccines
that
we've
done
here
in
the
county,
100
pop-up
events
a
whole
bunch
of
work
still
going
on
in
contact
tracing,
and
you
know
we
recognized
just
this
past
saturday-
all
the
work
that
not
only
our
staff
have
done,
but
the
members
of
the
community
and
the
complete
vaccination
committee
and
at
a
a
nice,
a
nice
but
yet
somber
event.
We
had
out
here
at
courthouse
plaza
what
I
wanted
to
do.
K
If
and
if
I
can
ask
the
county
board
clerk
to
put
up
the
graphic.
It
has
a
lot
of
information
on
it,
I'm
not
going
to
read
it
for
you.
We
will
make
this
available
on
our
website.
It
talks
about
the
number
of
doses,
the
kinds
of
supplies
we've
distributed
and
the
amount
of
assistance
that
we've
received
as
we
you
know,
as
we
know
we're
at
the
two
year
anniversary
of
my
signing
the
declaration
of
local
emergency.
K
I
did
want
to
finish
up
with
some
what
I
consider
some
some
good
news.
Well,
actually
one
thing:
first,
the
baby
vacs
or
the
vax
between
zero
and
five.
We
still
are
in
a
holding
pattern
on
that
we
don't
know.
What's
going
to
happen,
as
I
talked
to
dr
varghese
just
a
couple
of
hours
ago
and
we're
all
making
educated
guesses,
it
might
be
a
three
dose
regimen.
It
might
be
authorized
next
month.
It
might
be
a
two
dose
regimen
authorized
in
may.
K
K
Two
other
sets
of
information.
One
is
this
is
a
snapshot
about
how
we've
been
doing
the
last
three
months
on
the
number
of
people
who've
been
coming
to
our
clinics
to
get
vaccinations
and
the
third
week
of
january
the
week
ending
january
22nd,
both
at
walter,
reed
and
arlington
mill.
We
had
a
total
of
963
people
show
up
for
vaccines.
K
For
the
week
ending
february
19th
we
had
239
and
for
the
week
just
ending
on
march
19th
we're
at
173..
So
the
numbers
are
dropping.
I'm
not
going
to
speculate
what's
going
on
there,
but
part
of
that
I
have
said
is,
as
the
demand
for
the
use
of
our
clinics
drops
and
there's
many
places.
People
can
go
in
the
community
to
get
a
vaccine,
the
walter
reed
community
center,
starting
on
april
5th.
K
As
far
as
the
arlington
mill
community
center
we're
still
waiting,
it's
likely
that
in
may
we
may
be
able
to
get
to
a
point
where
we
are
able
to
have
the
gym
open
for
activities.
But
I'm
not
firmly
announcing
that.
Yet
again,
all
the
things
we
have
to
do
with
the
baby,
vacs
and
other
issues
coming
up.
And
I
think
our
eventual
goal
is
to
integrate
the
vaccination
program
into
what
we
do
at
sequoia,
which
is
where
we
have
a
full-time
vaccination
program
for
many
other
shots
that
people
get
to
use.
K
And
that
is
my
update
on
covet.
I
Question
for
ms
garvey
yeah
yeah.
I
realized
I
have
a
question,
mr
manager.
I
thought
I
read,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
the
cdc
is
recommending
a
second
booster
for
those
65
and
older,
or
are
they
thinking
about
it?.
K
It's
it's
currently
before
them.
I
think
for
consideration.
There's
been
a
proposal
made
by
by
pfizer.
K
Last
item
I'm
going
to
ask
caitlin
thomas
she's,
I
think
she's
here
virtually
I
said
on
saturday.
I
would
give
you
an
update.
We
had
a
public
speaker
come
and
talk
to
us
about
north
nelson
street
house
and
sort
of
the
cul-de-sac
up
there
and
some
of
the
issues
going
on.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
her
to
give
an
update
and
when
she's
done
with
that,
I
actually
will
have
something
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
on
the
noise
ordinance.
So
caitlin
are
you
there.
N
I'm
here
good
afternoon,
hello,
hi,
so
we
have
I've.
We
have
pulled
a
few
different
enforcement
levers
when
it
and
it
involves
police
zoning
and
commissioner
of
revenue
we
most
of
us,
the
residents
already
know,
but
police
have
responded
multiple
times
and
we
are
still
encouraging
neighbors
to
call
in
the
future
for
disturbances
and
any
kind
of
other
perceived
illegal
activities.
N
Zoning
has
actually
been
out
there
twice
now.
They've
conducted
a
very
thorough
investigation,
met
the
owner
twice
and
even
performed
an
interior
inspection.
Zoning
determined
it
was
owner
occupied.
There
was
enough
evidence
for
that
and
the
owner
was
compliant
and
has
intentions
of
being
a
good
neighbor
going
forward.
N
This
property
does
qualify
for
an
accessory
homestead
permit,
but
there
is
not
an
application
on
file,
although
staff
is
going
to
help
the
owner
through
the
the
application,
but
they
haven't
made
contact.
Since
yesterday
the
commissioner
revenue
will
start
statutorily
assessing
the
property
if
they
don't
hear
back
from
the
owner.
N
If
the
owners
are
responsive,
I
believe
by
today-
and
we
do-
the
listings
were
removed
from
airbnb
and
verbo,
but
we
are
aware
there
are
other
platforms
that
sites
can
have
activity
on
and
that
and
staff
as
well
as
commissioner
revenue
are
actively
monitoring
these
sites.
I
reached
out
to
the
owner
of
the
riverwood
civic
association
today,
let
him
know
what's
going
on
and
he
was
happy
with
the
update.
A
Thanks,
ms
thomas,
could
I
have
just
a
quick
question.
I
should
know
this,
but
it's
been
a
few
years
since
we
adopted
that
accessory
home
state
ordinance.
Is
there
no
penalty
for
conducting
business
as
a
accessory
home
state
without
a
license.
N
The
penalty
is
through,
so
the
commissioner
revenue
has
the
you
know:
they
assess
their
penalties
since
there's
no
business
license.
Zoning
had
determined
that
it
is
not
a
rental
because
of
the
evidence.
So
therefore
there
was
no
penalty
assessed.
The
case
is
closed,
not
familiar.
If
zoning
assesses
I'm
not
sure,
but
I
can
get
back
to
you
on
that.
Okay.
N
F
A
Right,
thank
you.
Well,
please,
sorry!
Thank
you.
Okay,
all
right!
Well,
I
appreciate
that.
I
don't
know
if
colleagues
have
other
questions,
I
think
ms
thomas,
we
appreciate
you
staying
in
touch
too,
with
the
riverworld
civic
association
would
be
pretty
engaged
on
this
issue.
You
know
I
do
I
I'm
cognizant.
I
wonder
if
this
is
where
you're
headed
mr
manager,
with
the
noise
ordinance
update
that
it
is.
A
K
So
people
are
going
to
think
that
we
set
this
up
in
advance,
but
I
I
will
say,
and
I'm
speaking
as
someone
who
lives
in
a
single
family
neighborhood,
I
I
keep
saying
single
family
I'll
get
over,
that
I
apologize
single
single
household
neighborhood.
K
It
has
been-
and
I
know,
jill
hunger
is
here
and
she's
keeping
a
distance,
because
if
she
was
close,
she
probably
hit
me
because
I
have
had
her
and
ben
aiken
and
there's
I'm
not
exaggerating
when
I
say
for
the
last
year
and
a
half
work
their
way
through
our
various
ordinances,
to
try
to
come
up
with
a
common
sense.
Explanation
for
people
of
what
do
you
do
when
your
neighbors
are
being
obnoxious
on
occasion?
Neighbors
are
obnoxious.
K
So
if
we
could
put
up
this
graphic-
and
I
really
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
erica
moore
who
was
with
the
manager's
office
but
was
permanently
borrowed
by
cphd
and
is
on
a
mission
to
try
to
make
sense
out
of
all
the
issues,
we
have
noise
issues
who
to
call
now
this
looks
busy,
but
it
actually
is
really
cool.
You
can
look
on
the
left
hand,
column
and
find
out
whatever
it
is.
That's
ruining
your
day
and
then
you
find
out
what
time
of
the
day
and
who
do
you
call?
K
There
was
a
lot
of
confusion
about
that
and
we
had
to
work
through
at
least
three
or
four
different
sections
of
the
code
and
by
hours
and
there's
a
few
footnotes
there,
I'm
not
going
to
say
that
this
actually
captures
everything,
but
we
made
sure
that
we
had.
We
captured
a
wailing
screen
screaming
and
shouting,
which
is
very
important
down
at
the
bottom
there.
K
But
for
the
most
part-
and
I
I
want
to
set
expectations
here-
your
go-to
will
be
to
call
the
non-emergency
number
of
the
police
department
and
I've
had
long
conversations
with
the
police
chief
about
this
as
staffing
permits-
and
you
know
we
are
a
little
bit
challenged.
Sometimes
now
with
staffing
we
will
respond.
This
is
not
something
we're
going
to
ignore,
but
if
they're,
obviously,
if
there's
an
act
of
violence
or
other
criminal
activity,
that
will
take
precedence,
so
people
need
to
be
aware
of
that.
K
There
are
a
couple
of
places,
usually
during
the
day
where
the
animal
welfare
league
or
our
county
code
enforcement
are
due
to
respond
and
there's
a
note
there
and
I'm
not
doing
this
to
be
yeah.
I
just
want
to
level
set
expectations.
The
response
sometimes
will
be
within
five
days
now.
K
That's
a
little
bit
crazy
when
you
think
about
it,
because
if
a
dog
is
barking
and
the
animal
well
fairly
can't
get
there
in
five
days,
usually
the
dog
will
stop
barking
or
go
inside
and
the
actual
incident
that
spurred
the
phone
call
might
not
actually
be
going
on.
So
that
is
a
question
of
resources
and
real-time
response,
and
that
is
the
way
our
ordinance
is
put
together.
I
I
don't
mean
to
say
that
those
are
unimportant.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
we
have
more
work
to
do
on
I'll
call
it.
K
The
other
side
of
this,
which
is
mediation
with
neighbors
and
and
having
people
feel
comfortable.
Not
not
everyone
does
about
how
you
talk
to
a
neighbor
about
what's
going
on
and
using
mediation,
because
the
county
government
can't
be
everywhere
at
once
to
handle
all
of
this,
but
nevertheless
I
thought
this
was
important
to
lay
out.
We
will
have
this,
I
think
jill.
Is
it
up
on
our
website
right
now
and
hopefully
we'll
peg
that
to
the
front
of
the
to
the
county
webpage?
K
Because,
mr
dorsey,
you
raised
a
question:
what
do
you
do
when
you
have
a
problem?
Who
do
you
call-
and
this
is
a
first
of
several
of
these-
that
we're
going
to
do
that-
try
to
make
it
clear
to
people
in
a
graphic
form
when
you've
got
a
problem.
What
do
you
have
to
do
because
right
now,
you're
sort
of
left
to
your
own
devices
to
sort
of
navigate
through
the
county
website
and
figure
out
what
you
want
to
do,
and
I
will
tell
you
being
a
homeowner.
K
You
get
extremely
frustrated
if
it's
midnight
and
there's
a
party
going
on
and
you
don't
know
what
to
do,
and
hopefully
this
will
be
something
that'll
make
it
easier.
So
I'm
here
to
answer
questions
I
think
jill
is
in
the
back.
She
may
come
up
if
you
have
a
hard
question
and
happy
to
take
any,
but
that
concludes
my
report.
A
I
You,
ms
garvey,
thank
you.
I
think
this
is
great,
although
my
93
year
old
mother
would
mention
to
you
that
it
should
be
whom
to
call,
but
this
is
fine.
I
No,
I
well,
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
good
idea
or
not,
because
it
sounds
anyway
never
mind.
However,
I
did
have
a
question
because
often
people
will
take
videos,
you
know
and
they
can
hear
the
sound
and
they
will
send
it
in
look
at
here.
I
am
from
my
front
porch.
This
is
what
you
can
hear.
O
It's
not
entirely
unhelpful,
but
it's
probably
not
as
helpful
as
people
assume,
because
when
you
introduce
evidence
you
have
to
authenticate
it.
Otherwise
it's
hearsay
evidence,
and
so
it's
not
it's
not
as
useful
as
if
the
officer
or
the
enforcement
officer
was
there
observing
it,
they
do
take
it
and
people.
I
think
the
the
source
of
frustration
is
people
say
I
have
this
video.
Isn't
that
open
and
shut?
O
Well,
you
do
have
to
when
you
go
into
court
authenticate
the
video,
which
means
you
know,
videos
can
be
created,
they
can
be
photoshopped,
they
can
be
faked,
and
so
that's
why
we
don't
we
don't
just
say
it's
an
open
and
shut
case
and
just
run
with
it.
I
That's
very
helpful.
We
might
want
to
put
something
down
there
about
authentication
or
what
it
means
or
how
much
it
helps
or
not,
because
the
fact
that
it's
a
little
bit
helpful
I
mean,
I
think
people
feel
if
they
can
just
do
something,
even
if
it's
not
as
effective
as
they
might
like.
So
maybe
there's
somewhere,
we
could
put
an
asterisk
or
something
and
and
give
some
information
to
folks
who
might
want
to
try
recording,
particularly
something
happens
over
and
over
and
over
again.
That
might.
K
Help
and
I'm
going
to
encourage
people
we
put
this
up
if
they
have
suggestions
on
how
we
can
improve
this
and
add
other
information.
We're
going
to
have
some
faqs
that'll
be
tied
to
it.
The
other
thing
which
we
did
this
board
did
a
year
and
a
half,
or
maybe
was
even
two
years
ago
at
this
point-
was
to
authorize
civil
fines.
K
So
when
our
police,
our
police,
now
have
civil
fine
books
with
them,
when
they're
going
places,
you
know
they
will
not
as
a
matter
of
course,
the
first
time
right,
write
out
a
ticket,
but
they'll
give
a
warning,
but
they'll
come
back
and
they're
issuing
those
civil
fines,
and
I
think
that
that,
hopefully
will
you
know,
word
gets
around
pretty
quickly
in
this
community
and
hopefully
that
will
provide
a
you
know,
a
better
approach
this
this
is
I'm
not
trying
to
minimize
how
difficult
this
is,
though,
community
struggle
with
this
throughout
the
country,
and
we
have
to
do
a
better
job,
I'm
not
sure
we're
there
yet.
A
F
Dorsey,
thank
you,
mr
schwartz.
This
is
this.
Is
nice
work
it
a
couple
things
come
to
mind.
You
alluded
to
one
for
some
of
these.
We
don't
want
people
calling
us
first
and
so
hopefully,
on
the
page
where
this
resides
there
can
at
least
be
some
sort
of
a
suggested
direction
that
perhaps
direct.
F
K
And
those
are,
I
don't
want
to
call
them
artifacts,
but
maybe
that
is
the
best
way
to
describe
it.
Those
are
artifacts
of
the
ordinance
and
the
time
the
hours
that
were
put
in
the
ordinance
so
absolutely
as
I've
said
before
our
economy
and
our
our
life
is
changing,
and
this
will
be
another
body
of
work
jill.
K
P
A
A
People
live
in
all
types
of
housing
in
arlington
right,
and
so
I
think
there
are,
if
it's
a
neighbor
to
neighbor
dispute,
really
encouraging
people
as
individuals
to
talk
to
one
another,
but
also
acknowledging
that
you
know
if
you
live,
for
example,
in
a
multi-family
building
and
there's
a
construction
project
happening
next
door,
it
can
be
a
little
bit
harder
to
have
those
conversations,
but
in
those
cases
usually,
if
it's
a
building
being
built
under
site
plan,
they
are
required
to
have
a
contact
right
so
going
through
your
building's
property
management
can
be
a
great
way
to
do
that.
A
So
it's
it's
not
even
an
easy
answer
about
that
question
of
where
to
start
and
and
who
to
talk
to
before
or
who
to
call.
So
I
won't
ask
everybody
to
make
another
infographic,
but
I
appreciate
the
thought:
that's
gone
into
recognizing
the
different
types
of
homes
that
that
arlington's
or
linkedonians
call
homes.
I'm
sorry,
mr
karen
tonight
I
cut
you
off
there.
E
Oh,
so
that's
that's
awesome
work!
Thank
you
so
much.
I
I
have
aligned
with
mr
dorsey
here
and
you
know
thinking
a
little
bit
further,
especially
given
the
fact
that
we
have
so
many
earliers
living
in
in
you
know,
high
rises,
etc.
So
the
majority
of
the
population.
Actually,
this
is
an
interesting
dynamic
there,
and
what
I
found
is
that
different
buildings
have
very
different
regulations
and
you
know
harmonizing
them
a
little
bit
as
a
project.
E
You
know
to
convey
that
you
know:
managing
noise
in
an
urban
environment
is
really
a
public
health
thing
and
it's
it's
really
quality
of
life
issue.
So
one
thing
that
we
had
one
one
complaint
that
I
got
a
lot
especially
last
year
and
during
the
pandemic
was
excessive
vehicle
noise.
This
is
not
included
in
this
list.
So
what
do
I
do
when
you
know
my
neighbor?
Just
you
know,
is
inconsiderate
and
at
10
pm
drives
with
a
very,
very
loud
vehicle
that
is
modified
to
be
very
loud.
E
K
Well,
I
would
add,
because
we've
talked
about
that
before-
that
is
probably
the
best
example
or
maybe
the
worst
example
of
a
situation
where,
unless
it's
contemporaneously
observed
by
by
the
police,
we
have
that
enforcement
issue,
and
then
we've
talked
also
about
having
noise
enforcement
devices.
And
I
don't
know
what
happened
with
the
legislation
in
the
general
assembly
this
year
on
that.
But
that
is.
That
is
a
big
issue,
and
I
I
think
maybe
we
might
want
to
add,
add
that
to
to
this
list
here.
But
I
do
not.
K
I
don't
want
to
hold
out
false
promise.
I
think
the
best
way
to
enforce
that
is
at
the
time
of
an
automobile
inspection
or
through
these
automated
means,
because
it's
going
to
be
highly
unusual
for
a
police
officer
or
someone
with
the
enforcement
capability
to
actually
hear
that
at
the
time
and
as
the
county
attorney
said,
there
are
other
issues
associated
with
recording
that
and
enforcing
it.
Q
E
A
All
right,
thank
you
so
much,
mr
manager.
Thank
you
jill
for
the
huge
amount
of
work
here.
I
think
we
we've
discovered
this
on
a
few
occasions
when,
when
we
don't
even
have
an
easy
answer
to
that
as
county
government,
it
probably
means
it's
too
complex.
So
thank
you
for
doing
that
hard
work
of
waiting
through
all
of
our
ordinances.
To
summarize
it
accordingly,
mr
manager,
did
you
have
anything
else
for.
A
Thank
you.
We
do.
We
have
one
more
report,
which
is
an
exciting
conversation
with
the
commission
on
the
arts,
about
their
equity
statement
that
they
have
been
working
on
we're
going
to
be
doing
that
at
6
30,
given
the
schedules
of
our
commissioners
when
we
reconvene
so
with
that
we
do
not
have
a
closed
session
into
which
I
need
to
request.
So
I'm
going
to
recess
us
until
we
come
back
at
6
30.
A
A
We
are
going
to
begin
with
one
item
held
over
from
our
earlier
conversation
with
presentations
and
board
reports,
and
that
is
a
presentation
from
our
commission
on
the
arts
about
their
work
on
developing
an
equity
statement.
Following
that,
we
will
move
into
hearing
items
pulled
from
our
consent
agenda.
A
We
will
have
all
consent,
speakers
and
we'll
hear
from
them
first
and
then
move
into
deliberations
on
each
of
the
three
items
in
order.
So
without
further
ado,
I
am
so
delighted
to
welcome
the
chair
of
the
arts.
Commission,
anika
quinana,
whom
I
believe
is
joined
by
ann
curley.
Also
of
the
commission.
Is
that
right?
A
R
A
I'm
gonna
vamp
for
a
minute,
while
our
clerk
pulls
that
up
and
just
say
that
I'm
so
excited
to
have
the
arts
commission
with
us,
as
I
think
most
board
members
have
heard
at
this
point.
The
commission
has
been
working
at
this
point
for
well
over
a
year
on
developing
an
equity
statement
to
guide
the
work
that
they
do,
which,
as
a
reminder,
includes
making
recommendations
about
the
investment
of
arts
grants
among
many
other
activities
back
when
I
was
their
liaison
last
year.
A
I
encouraged
them
when
the
when
the
statement
was
and
in
its
final
place,
to
come
and
present
to
us,
because
I
know
that
so
many
of
our
commissions,
like
this
board,
are
grappling
with
this
question
of
how
do
we
integrate
and
apply
questions
of
racial
equity
to
our
ongoing
work?
And
so
I
think
there
is
so
much
that
we
can
learn
for
not
only
trying
to
make
the
arts
more
equitable
but
you're
trying
to
guide
many
other
commissions
seeking
to
do
this
type
of
reflection
and
direction
for
their
future
too.
A
So
I'm
so
glad
that
it
looks
like
multiple
members
of
the
commission
were
able
to
join
us
tonight
and
with
that
the
slides
are
ready.
We
are
so
excited
to
have
you
and
over
to
you,
chair,
quinana,.
R
Okay,
thank
you.
Chair
crystal.
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for
being
with
us
tonight.
Thank
you
to
the
commission.
I
think
we're
here
in
big
numbers
on
the
teams.
Thank
you
board
for
inviting
us
to
speak.
Of
course,
my
my
name
is
anika
quinana
and
I'm
the
chair
of
the
arts,
commission.
I'm
joined
in
this
presentation
by
ann
curley,
who
is
our
vice
chair?
R
I
know
our
time
is
brief,
so
I
want
to
jump
right
in
and
share
with
you
the
work
of
the
arts
commission
that
we've
been
doing
over
the
past
few
years.
Actually,
I
realized
to
center
equity
in
our
work
and
provide
an
equity
lens
in
all
that
we
do
so
that's
why
this
presentation
is
called
centering
equity.
If
I
can
have
do,
I
have
controls.
R
So
I
thought
the
best
way
to
convey
this
was
to
provide
a
timeline.
I
and
I
wanted
to
start
where
I
started
so.
I
started
at
the
commission
in
2019
in
january.
I
think
and
did
as
well,
and
I
want
to
start
the
conversation
there
and
just
also
give
a
shout
out
to
marshall,
set
marcia
semo.
R
Who
is
my
predecessor,
because,
though
there
at
that
point
was
not
an
equity
committee
as
a
part
of
the
commission,
she
definitely
wanted
to
make
equity
more
of
a
priority
in
our
work,
and
she
really
showed
shoulder
that
responsibility
on
her
own
by
simply
making
sure
that
she
sent
us
via
email
articles
about
equity.
You
know
that
we
were
aware
of
certain
trends
with
regards
to
dei
work
and
we
actually,
as
a
commission,
did
start
some
deep
initial
dei
training.
R
I
think
the
cultural
affairs
staff
had
a
deeper
training
and
this
work
was
important
to
help
us
think
about
sort
of
our
personal
biases
and
how
they
might
impact
our
work
and
our
decision
making
and
then
later.
In
the
year,
we
invited
americans
for
the
arts,
which
is
a
national
membership
organization
whose
primary
focus
is
advancing.
R
The
arts
in
the
united
states
as
a
whole,
and
we
invited
one
of
their
vice
presidents
to
come
and
share
with
with
us
their
process
as
american
for
the
americans
for
the
arts
in
developing
their
what
they
call
the
cultural
equity
statement
and
then
just
brainstorm
ways
that
they
might
support
us.
R
How
what
a
statement
might
look
like
for
us
in
future,
that
was
in
december
2019,
fast
forward,
the
world
changes,
cobit,
19
pandemic
and,
of
course,
the
racial
recogni
reckoning
that
was
precipitated
by
the
killing
of
george
floyd,
so
many
others
by
and
then,
of
course,
george
floyd
by
a
minneapolis
police
officer,
and
so
we
witnessed
I,
as
actually
as
an
arts
professional,
witness
the
arts
sector
nationally,
really
starting
to
take
stock
of
its
own
role.
In
perpetuating
racism.
R
Many
created
statements,
many
made
pledges
that
they
would
work
toward
change,
and
so
we
became
curious
about
what
is
the
arlington
arts
sector
saying
about
racism?
Have
do.
R
S
Thanks
anika
yeah,
so
as
part
of
creating
the
equity
statement,
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we
were
really
you
know
doing
what
we
set
out
to
do
and
and
since
our
biggest
thing
is
the
grants
program,
we
wanted
to
add
questions
now.
This
of
course
happened
during
the
pandemic
and
our
groups
were
just
struggling
to
survive
at
that
point
and
stay
afloat
and
stay
not
fold.
S
So
we
added
bonus
questions
on
race
and
equity
and
we
had
some
really
amazing
work
happening
with
our
grants,
groups
that
we
found
out
that
were
that
they
were
doing
around
race
and
equity.
It
was
really
successful.
Some
of
the
questions
we
asked
centered
on.
What
does
the
organization
do
to
foster
racial
and
cultural
equity
of
the
arts
and
culture
in
arlington?
S
And
those
are
some
of
the
questions
that
we
asked
and
we
got
amazing
responses,
and
so
we
did
that
for
the
fiscal
2022
year
grants
and
then
we've
continued,
because
we're
still
in
the
pandemic
for
fiscal
2023
continued
that
we
kind
of
updated
our
questions
a
little
bit,
but
we're
keeping
them
as
bonus
questions
for
now,
because
our
groups
are
still
struggling
to
during
the
pandemic
and
hopefully
down
the
road
we'll
be
able
to
include
this
as
part
of
the
main
part
of
the
application
for
the
grants.
Committee
thanks.
R
Ann
and
ann
is
also
the
chair
of
the
grants
committee
I
should
mention,
and
so
simultaneously
as
the
grants
committee
was
doing,
that
work.
The
equity
committee,
which
I
co-chair
with
lynn
coates.
Also.
Commissioner,
we
started
out
on
drafting
the
equity
statement.
We
felt
that
it
was
our
role,
sort
of
get
get
things
in
place
and
then
present
that
to
the
full
commission,
and
we
did
that
we
did.
We
did
a
draft
we
presented
to
the
full
commission
and
it
was
really
a
powerful
process.
R
I
have
to
say
when
I
say
present,
we
really
did
a
workshop,
and
so
we
broke
into
different
virtual
rooms
and
took
chunks
of
the
equity
statement
and
really
folks
were
able
to
interrogate
them
and
and
brought
in
what
does
this
mean
and
ask
questions
and
edit?
And
so
we,
then
we
all
came
back
together
as
a
group
and
there
were
changes
suggested,
but
it
was
really
an
opportunity
for
us
as
a
commission
to
all
have
ownership
over
the
process,
so
that
was
critical
for
us.
R
We
then
went
back
as
the
equity
committee
and
made
revisions
to
the
equity
statement
and
our
first
order
of
business
at
our
first
meeting
in
2021
was
to
approve
that
equity
statement,
so
that
was
really
exciting.
Now
we
did
not
see
this
as
a
performative
process,
just
creating
a
piece
of
paper.
For
the
sake
of
of
doing
that,
we
wanted
our
statement
to
have
life,
to
have
legs
and
arms
and
and
and
to
be
useful
to
the
arts
community.
R
R
And
so
in
a
moment
we
will
show
you
the
the
equity
statement,
but
just
you
know
kind
of
setting
the
stage
we
did
that
workshop
with
the
community
got
a
lot
of
great
feedback
on
practical
ways
that
we
could
engage
in
the
work,
and
you
know
we
tried
to
think
beyond
covid
so
that
this
could
really
be
a
lasting
document,
a
lasting
work
and
so
thankful
to
you
all
at
the
county
board.
When
there
were
some
and
the
county
manager.
R
I
should
say
there
were
some
extra
resources
available
and
we
were
able
to
take
those
funds
that
you
all
provided
us
that
fifty
thousand
dollars
and
create
an
equity-centered
grant
program
with
those
funds,
and
that
was
called
aware.
I
don't
know
anne
if
you
want
to
just
take
a
moment
to
talk
about
aware.
S
S
That
kind
of
taking
from
our
bonus
questions
for
the
regular
grant,
and
we
really
wanted
to
ensure
the
the
point
of
this
grant
is
to
to
work
to
ensure
equitable
access
to
the
arts
for
the
entire
arlington
community,
because
sometimes
arts
gets
very
hyphened
off
to
different
groups,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
it's
available
for
everyone,
and
that
was
part
of
the
aware
grant.
S
So
we
had
a
few
applications
and
we
were
able
to
award
two
groups
that
grant
and
then
we
were
able
to
use
the
rest
of
the
funds
to
give
to
our
current
grantees
as
coveted
relief
funds.
So
they
were
all
very
grateful
for
that
too,
and
our
two
aware
grantees
are
doing
their
grants
were
amazing
and
the
work
that
they're
doing
is
is
really
incredible.
R
Yeah,
thanks
for
that,
and
and
and
so
we
continued
with-
I
just
want
to
give
a
nod
to
cultural
affairs.
Michelle
isabelle,
stark,
also
applied
for
american
rescue
fund
grant.
We
were
awarded
one
of
the
few
local
jurisdictions
to
receive
those
funds
very
difficult
to
get,
but
that
american
rescue
fund
grant
also
had
an
equity
focus.
R
We're
able
to
cultural
affairs
was
able
to
match
the
aware
grant
so
that
that
those
groups
or
those
awardees
were
able
to
get
even
more
resources
and
we're
going
to
continue
as
ann
spoke
about
to
further
integrate
these
equity
questions
into
the
grants
program.
So
now,
where
are
we
here?
We
are
in
2022
and
beyond,
and
equity
is
our
priority.
We
hear
the
term
applying
an
equity
lens.
What
does
that
mean?
R
It
means
that
when
you're
having
a
conversation,
it
needs
to
be
second
nature
to
think
about
the
implications,
and
is
this
equitable?
I
love
the
equity
resolution
and
the
work
that
samia
boyd
is
doing
around
who's
missing
and
you
know
asking
those
questions,
those
all
get
at
equity,
and
so
we
utilize
that
information
as
well.
R
I
do
want
to
mention
that
we,
you
know
recently,
as
the
equity
committee
started,
looking
at
the
race
dashboard
that
the
county
has,
and
we
want
to
look
at
that
and
make
some
inferences
about
our
own
work
and
and
the
implications
on
equitable
access
to
the
arts
based
on
that
data,
and
then
we
want
to
think
about
the
intersections
of
arts,
culture
and
heritage.
R
We
one
of
our
commissioners,
felicia
bryce,
mcphail
who's
from
green
valley,
was
sharing
wonderful
stories
about
heritage
that
you
know
is
in
green
valley,
and
I
think
I
spoke
to
some
of
the
county
board
a
little
bit
about
that
last
week,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that
information
that
storytelling,
that
history
of
arlington
as
it
intersects
with
the
arts
right,
does
not
just
disappear.
So
we
want
to
think
about
what
that
might
look
like.
We
want
to
work
with
cultural
affairs.
R
We
want
to
work
with
other
the
historical
association
and
others
to
be
able
to
preserve
those
stories,
so
we're
thinking
about
that.
A
lot
of
this
is,
you
know
our
brainstorming
coming
together
and
and
then
I
cannot
not
mention
the
issue
of
space.
R
Space
is
an
issue
of
equity
and
the
ability
for
artists
and
arts
organizations
to
provide
spaces
that
arlington
residents
in
particular,
and,
of
course
our
guests
can
come
to
and
that
they
can
afford
and
they
can
enjoy
the
arts
as
they
enrich
all
of
our
lives.
That's
crucial
to
us,
and
so
we
want
to
push
that
conversation
with
you
all
with
the
county
manager
and
figure
out
the
issue
of
space.
That
said,
we
cannot
continue
to
anecdotally
talk
about
the
need
for
space.
We
need
to
understand
the
arts
and
culture
and
landscape.
R
What
is
actually
missing?
What
are
the
needs,
and
so
we
really
want
to
encourage
through
you
know
the
provision
of
a
consultant
or
a
consulting
group
to
help
us
with
asset
mapping
data
visualization
to
be
able
to
create
art
arts
profiles
that
each
artist
in
each
arts
organization
would
have
a
profile
on
a
data
map
that
would
show
everywhere
in
arlington,
not
just
on
our
grantees,
but
in
the
school
system,
in
the
library
system,
everywhere
in
dpr
parks
and
rec
everywhere
that
arts
exists
in
this
county.
R
We
want
to
be
able
to
see
it.
We
want
it
to
be
updated.
We
want
to
be
able
to
have
an
account
of
that
and
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
the
private
sector
looks
to
to
when
they
decide
to
invest
in
the
arts,
and
so
we
want
to,
of
course
encourage
those
public-private
partnerships,
and
so
that's
a
little
bit
about
what
we're
going
to
do.
I
just
want
to
go
quickly
to
the
next
slide.
I
know
I'm
we're
going
over
time
here,
yeah,
but
I.
R
Sorry
crystal,
I
just
want
to
show
you
our
statement
on
equity,
which
of
course
is
on
our
website
and
just
you
know
the
bit,
the
preamble,
I'm
just
going
to
read
those
four
lines:
to
support
a
full
creative
life
for
all
arlington
residents,
arts
and
arts
organizations
to
further
support
the
county
board
adopted
a
enriching
lives,
arlington,
arts
and
cultural
strategy.
The
arlington
county
commission
for
the
arts
commits
to
championing
policies
and
practices
that
ensure
a
just
inclusive
and
equitable
art
sector.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
excellent,
and
I
think
we
have
a
moment
at
least
open
the
floor
for
questions
or
comments
from
my
colleagues
and
I'll
just
say.
Having
been
able
to
attend
the
workshops
with
the
arts
community
to
remark
about
how
well
attended
they
were-
and
I
think
that
conversation,
at
least
in
my
breakout
group
anyway,
seemed
to
facilitate
and
engender
some
reflection
among
arts
institutions
in
arlington
about
what
the
application
of
principles
of
equity
would
look
like
in
their
own
work
as
well.
Ms
garvey
yeah.
I
No,
I
I
I'm
really
impressed
with
a
very
intentional
long-standing,
deliberate
approach
to
equity,
forming
the
committee
and
everything
that
you've
done.
It's
great,
I
loved,
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
to
talking
with
you
all
on
tomorrow
evening.
I
believe
it
is,
and
I
particularly
and
would
want
to
hear
more
about
the
assets,
mapping
that
you
know.
I
think,
as
as
you
said,
ms
krinana,
you
know
we
we
hear
all
the
time
we
need
more.
I
We
know
he's
more
and
more
space
we
didn't,
but
it
is,
it
does
tend
to
be
sort
of
anecdotal
and
it
sort
of
makes
sense
when
you
hear
it,
but
you
don't
have
the
overall
structure
for
dealing
with
it,
and
this
is
really
helpful.
So
I'll
look
forward
to
maybe
hearing
a
little
more
about
that
tomorrow.
If
that's
all
right.
Thank
you
absolutely.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
I
I
I'm
interested
in
in
how
this
can
help
other
commissions,
and
I'm
just
mindful
of
you
know
I
have
found.
I
am
no
grand
artist.
My
grandfather
would
be
very
upset
about
that,
but
you
know
I
have
found
that
there
is
a
space
that
can
open
up
with
the
arts.
That
is
interesting
to
me
and,
as
I
think,
about
housing
and
tenant
landlord,
which
are
also
inherent,
you
know,
as
everything
linked
with
a
lot
of
the
questions
that
miss
bird
asked.
B
R
If
I
can
just
comment
to
that,
mr
ferrante,
I
appreciate
that,
and
I
think
what
we
have
tried
to
do
is
look
at
our
existing
structure
as
a
commission
and
see
where
the
gaps
are
in
terms
of
issues
of
equity,
and
I
think
I
would
guide
other
commissions
to
look
at
what
are
your
policies
and
consider,
as
you
said,
miss
you
know
the
work
of
the
office
of
race
and
equity
and
see
and
and
ask
those
questions
who,
if
it's
transportation,
who's
missing
from
this
conversation
right?
R
How
is
equity
insured
in
this
process?
Where
can
we
partner,
with
other
commissions
like
we
have,
you
know,
park
partnered
in
the
past
with
the
economic
development
commission
and
want
to
do
that
more
and
we
are
very
open
to
partnering
with
other
commissions,
and
if
anyone
wants
to
reach
out
with
it
to
us,
we're
happy
to
to
do
that.
But
I
would
just
encourage
to
look
at
your
policies
and
see
which
ones
are
a
bit
stale
see
which
ones
can
be
utilized
to.
You
know
create
change
that
will
work
towards
equity.
A
E
Definitely
this
is
this
is
quite
a
template
of
a
process
of
a
thinking
that,
not
specifically
I
miss
quinana
and
everybody.
Thank
you
so
much
I've
been
following
that
for
quite
a
while,
and
it
was
you
know
from
your
first
slide.
It
was
quite
a
journey
and
I
think
that
it
was
not
only
for
you,
but
it
was
all
also
for
all
of
us,
because
you
are
reading
this.
This
community
and
you're
reading
out
this
community
in
a
very
particular
way.
I
I
really
learn
every
time
more
about
that.
E
R
Yeah
one
of
the
things
that
well
at
being
an
arts
professional,
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
the
private
sector
is
constantly
looking
for
is
to
under
in
because
of
the
racial
reckoning.
Because
of
the
ongoing
concerns
in
this
country
and
where
people
want
to
apply
their
resources,
they
want
to
know
where's
the
need
and
how
how
it's
already
being
addressed,
and
so,
particularly
with
fueling
field
progress.
It
comes
back
to
this
whole
concept
of
an
asset
map
right
now,
we're
not
able
to
make
data-driven
decisions.
R
R
Have
we,
we
started
a
wonderful
work
and
there's
bits
and
pieces
for
sure
throughout
the
county,
so
I
would
be
remiss
to
even
suggest
that
this
work
hasn't
started,
that
the
facilities
process
and
other
processes
haven't
gathered
data
about
all
the
different
types
of
arts,
spaces
and
and
work
that's
happening.
But
how
do
we
bring
that
all
together
make
sure
that
it's
consistently
updated
understand
the
work?
That's
ongoing,
so
that
we
can
say
here's
the
gap
where
in
arlington
are
the
arts
deserts
I'll
call
it?
R
We
talk
about
foodstuff
food
deserts
where
in
arlington
are
the
food?
Are
the
arts
deserts?
If
it's
here,
where
I'm
sitting
in
penrose,
the
map
would
be
able
to
show
us
if
there's
no
art
studios,
if
there's
no
school-based
programs
or
library
based
programs
happening
right
here
in
penrose,
that's
a
problem.
Penrose
would
then
need
to
be
a
focus
area,
but
we
don't
know
that
until
we
have
pulled
together,
the
data
be
able
to
visualize
it
and
then
start
to
make
decisions
around
it.
E
E
Yes,
it
does
I
I
I
reserve
some.
I
will.
I
will
circle
back
to
you,
because
I
you
know
I.
I
appreciate
the
effort
to
map
assets
to
see
where
we
are
to
actually
show
you
know
where
arts
can
happen,
where
people
can
congregate,
where,
where
how
these
assets
are
distributed,
how
they
are
close
or
far
away
from
from
from.
T
E
As
a
is
a
it's
a
rare
animal-
sometimes
it's
it,
it
thrives
in
very
centralized
settings
where
you
need
one
place,
one
central
square
and
and
then
you
have
an
explosion
and
it
you
need
that
critical
location
which
we
don't
well.
We
have
some,
but
the
question
is
whether
they
serve
for
the
purpose
we
want
them.
Thank
you.
I
I
will
definitely
go
get
back
to
you
on
this.
F
You
know,
given
that
that
our
the
work
that
you
did,
the
intense
work
that
you
did
is
in
some
some
way
modeled
on
on
what
americans
for
the
arts
did
for
the
larger
arts
community
a
few
years
prior,
I'm
wondering
if
we've
been
able
to
see
from
that
organization
if
they
follow
through
with
any
evaluation
or
benchmarking,
to
see
whether
or
not
they
can
translate
that
action
into
outcomes
and
if
so,
what
it
might
pretend
for
us,
as
we
do
this
work
in
arlington,
under
your
capable
leadership.
R
It's
interesting,
I
you
know,
I
think,
if
you
follow
the
news.
Certainly
americans
for
the
arts
has
had
some
challenges
over
the
past
few
years,
but
I
think
they're
in
a
space
where
they're
starting
to
reckon
with
that
and
be
the
better
for
it.
They
are
in
a
position,
you
know
as
a
membership
organization,
of
course,
where
they
do
surveys
every
year,
every
other
year
to
sort
of
see.
R
You
know
diversity
of
staff
and
things
of
that
nature
within
within
the
sector
across
the
nation,
and
so
I
imagine
that
they
might,
you
know
they
might
look
for
an
uptake
in
statements
or
activities.
They
do
have,
of
course,
an
equity
division
that
is
engaged
in
that
work,
and
so
I
think
for
us
you
know
we're
250
000
strong.
I
think
we
can.
You
know
it
would
be
a
lot
easier
for
us
to
do
that,
work
and
then
being
a
real
position.
A
That
is
inspiring
even
better
than
inspiring
other
commissions
right
being
an
example
across
the
u.s.
Thank
you
so
much
cher
karnata
ms
curley,
and
for
all
of
the
members
of
the
arts
commission,
not
only
for
joining
us
tonight
to
make
sure
that
we
and
others
can
learn
from
your
work,
but
for
doing
it
and
for
really
blazing
this
trail,
and
I
think
it
was
ms
garvey
really
pointed
out
that
this
was
set
up
to
be,
or
maybe
mr
defranti
deep,
deep
and
lasting.
A
So
we
are
looking
forward
to
many
conversations
to
come
and
we
appreciate
you
both.
Are
you
all
thanks
again
for
joining
us?
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
you're
excellent,
all
right
and
with
that
we
will
move
to
our
consent
agenda.
We
have
three
items
pulled
number
one
number,
nine
and
number
19..
We
will
take
testimony
on
all
three
at
once:
we'd
love
to
hear
from
you
if
you've
signed
up
and
then
we'll
consider
and
hear
those
items
in
order.
Thank
you
so
much,
madam
clerk
over
to
you
to
call
our
speakers.
U
I
do
not
believe
the
roadside
grill
is
honoring.
The
spirit
and
letter
of
this
agreement
made
initially
in
1996
and
has
been
carried
through.
It's
an
it.
It's
a
voluntary
agreement.
I
would
like
to
see
that
voluntary
agreement
made
into
a
condition
so
that
they
are
required
to
keep
live
entertainment
in
the
basement.
U
Your
own
records
show
that
they
agreed
to
do
one
thing
and
proceeded
to
do
whatever
they
wanted.
There
has
been
a
progression
of
violations
of
excuse,
permit
to
keep
the
music
and
noise
indoors
and,
in
its
basement,
the
roadside
agreed
to
keep
live
based
in
the
bay
in
the
basement
on
a
voluntary
basis.
After
three
years
they
moved
it
upstairs.
U
U
U
Their
sound
system
is
also
a
problem.
They
routinely
turn
their
sound
system
up
at
2
am
when
they
close
the
restaurant
combination
to
clear
the
patrons
and
to
provide
entertainment
to
the
folks
that
are
closing
the
place
and
that
lasts
until
3
or
3
30.,
I'd
like
to
see
a
condition
that
the
sound
system
should
not
be
heard
off-site
during
hours
in
which
they
are
not
open.
U
A
Sorry,
your
times
expired.
G
A
A
Welcome,
mr
cronie,
oh
I'm
sorry!
If
you
have
materials
you
can
give
them
to
our
clerk
right
there
and
she'll
distribute
them.
That
would
be
great,
that's
fine!
She
can
pass
it
down.
We'll
see
and
forgive
me
I
actually.
I
should
have
given
everybody
a
little
spiel
at
the
beginning.
If
you
have
materials,
you're
welcome
to
give
them
to
our
clerk.
If,
but
that's
a
photo,
I'm
just
sure
great.
Thank
you,
mr
gurney,
and
we
will
have
ways
to
get
in
touch
with
you
as
well
and
follow
up.
Thank
you.
A
J
I'm
going
to
speed
talk,
my
name
is
andrew
negroni
and
I
completely
agree
with
this
gentleman
who
spoke
before
that
three
minutes
is
too
short.
I
live
two
blocks
from
2854
wilson
boulevard.
I
have
lived
21
years
in
lion
village.
I
love
music.
I
love
dancing.
I
love
arlington,
but
during
the
time
I've
lived
here,
clarendon
has
become
dirtier
noisier
and
more
dangerous
and
congested
because
of
increased
retail
and
restaurant
activity.
J
I
think
that
the
county
staff
has
ignored
available
data
on
harm
from
alcohol
in
clarendon
bars
and
restaurants
in
its
proposed
approval
of
the
permit
for
late
night,
music
and
dancing,
and
I
focus
on
these
statements
by
the
county
staff
staff
does
not
expect
proposed
uses
to
adversely
impact
the
neighborhood
that
photo
will
show.
One
of
the
adverse
impacts
and
staff
has
not
identified
any
issues
with
the
entertainment
and
dancing
requests.
J
Both
of
these
statements
are
unreasonably
conclusory,
considering
reports
of
the
arlington
police
department
and
other
policing
experts.
Despite
the
data
on
public
welfare
effects
of
clarendon
restaurants,
county
staff
promotes
its
rosy
expectations
either.
The
staff
was
not
aware
of
these
facts
or
ignored
them.
Neither
is
acceptable
in
evaluating
the
permit.
The
county
should
have
examined
police
contacts
with
bar
patrons
in
clarendon
calls
to
police
from
restaurants
and
previous
disturbances
at
this
location
and
nearby
restaurants,
police
calls
and
other
interactions
between
restaurant
and
bar
patrons
and
police
have
been
rising
sharply.
Where
is
the
evidence?
J
This
won't
continue
with
yet
another
restaurant
on
wilson
boulevard
in
2019,
the
arlington
police
department
submitted
a
study
on
reducing
alcohol-related
harm
for
a
national
policing
award.
This
study
focused
on
problems
in
clarendon
specifically
and
arlington's
restaurant
initiative,
which
is
a
voluntary
program
designed
to
promote
training
of
employees.
J
The
factual
statements
that
I'm
going
to
say
right
now
come
directly
from
that
report.
They
are
not
from
me.
Clarendon
has
more
than
half
a
million
visitors
a
year
on
friday
and
saturday
nights
between
9
pm
and
3
a.m.
That
is
more
than
twice
the
population
of
arlington.
The
police
department
estimates
that
up
to
six
thousand
people
can
be
on
wilson
and
clarendon
boulevard
on
friday
and
saturday
nights.
The
report
says
that
overcrowding
increases
the
risk
of
aggression
and
decreases
pedestrian
safety
in
a
six-month
period.
J
In
2016,
aggression
resulted
in
90
fights,
76,
disorderly
conduct,
events
and
24
assaults.
Another
statement
from
the
same
report-
aggression
in
nightlife
settings,
is
associated
with
high
noise
level.
The
most
common
hot
spots
for
aggression
are
dance
floors
and
crowded
interior
areas.
This
permit
would
permit
a
dance
floor
and
a
crowded
interior
area.
J
I
think
that,
what's
necessary
here
is
for
the
county
to
compare
the
negative
effects
on
the
citizens,
which
include
everything
from
drunk
in
public,
to
urinating,
in
public
to
trash
in
the
street
to
rodents
in
the
trash,
with
the
benefits
to
the
entrepreneur
who
would
like
to
have
yet
another
restaurant,
and
I
firmly
believe
that
the
weighing
of
the
equities
and
the
facts,
including
police
data,
would
make
it
demonstrably
clear
that
public
welfare
is
far
outweighs
the
benefit
to
the
restaurant
tour.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you,
mr
greene.
V
Good
evening
I
prepared
a
five
minute
speech,
so
I'm
I'm
not
really
that
prepared
to
speak
short,
but
just
to
see
the
location,
because
the
the
staff
report
did
not
show
the
location.
This
is
where
they're
proposing
having
the
band
there's
a
large
parking
garage
wall
through
your
stories
that
direct
sound
right
into
the
neighborhood.
As
you
can
see,
it's
really
just
nestled
right
in
a
neighborhood
of
family
homes,
and
I
would
have
much
rather
been
here
to
talk
about
the
arts.
This
is
the
last
place
that
I
want
to
be.
V
I
am
involved
in
the
arts.
I
have.
I
love
music.
I've
had
a
project,
the
social
power
of
music,
showing
the
way
that
music
changes.
Lives,
builds
communities
all
that
good
stuff,
but
I
also
have
a
day
job
and
I
need
to
sleep.
At
night,
I've
raised
small
children
in
my
home
they're
now
almost
out
of
the
house,
and
it's
been
something
that
we've
struggled
with
continuously
since
whitlow's
was
allowed
to
have
a
music
permit
that
turned
into
a
wild
wild
place.
V
V
I'm
really
here
as
a
statement
of
self-care
and
community
care
to
say
that
this
is
very
problematic
to
have
the
noise
constant
noise.
Even
10
percent
decibel
cons,
10
increase
of
10
decibel
causes,
impacts
on
anxiety,
depression,
heart,
your
heart
blood
pressure.
All
of
those
things
to
see
a
report
that
did
not
include
any
of
those
harms,
particularly
the
harms
that
should
be
known.
Based
on
that
report.
V
I
don't
want
to
live
in
a
police
environment.
I
want
to
have
the
environment
in
a
way
that
is
healthy.
Have
one
of
these
arts
events
in
the
wittler's
building,
not
another
bar
we've
had
enough
it's
dangerous,
it's
it's
not
pleasant,
and
if
police
don't
like
it,
how
do
we
like
it?
I
gave
up
a
dog,
a
rescue
dog
after
two
years,
because
he
became
new
noise,
phobic
and
aggressive
the
behaviorist,
even
with
prozac
that
dogs
can
take.
It
didn't
help
said
he
needed
to
be
rehomed
for
somewhere
quiet.
V
That
was
a
second
big
loss
for
my
kids,
because
the
dog
was
like
something
I
never
thought
I
could
give
them
as
a
single
parent.
Thank
you.
So
those
are
some
of
the
the
impacts
that
I
faced.
I
wish
I
had
more
time.
I
will
submit
my
full
writing.
I
will
submit
the
first
two
videos
of
the
stabbings
assassins.
W
If
you
are,
you
are
on
teams
to
star
six
to
unmute
yourself
or
the
microphone,
but.
H
This
is
sorry
I
had
trouble
meeting
all
right,
madam
chair
and
board
members.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
in
this
hearing,
I'm
here
to
provide
testimony
on
the
use
of
the
building
formerly
occupied
by
whitlow's,
of
all
properties
that
the
tenant
or
proposed
tenant
will
operate.
The
whitlow's
location
is
closest
to
a
residential
neighborhood.
H
In
fact,
it
faces
the
neighborhood
and
has
an
amphitheater
style
effect
with
the
buildings
around
it,
so
it
actually
projects
into
the
neighborhood.
H
I
live
down
the
street
and
am
category
from
this
building
and
in
the
night,
when
the
music
is
throwing
on
the
rooftop,
my
floors
are
vibrating
from
the
base,
but
that
aside,
the
the
building
or
the
tenant
is
proposing
a
restaurant,
but
in
fact
it's
really
a
saloon,
and
I
will
tell
you
and
you
can
look
at
different
police
reports.
H
The
amount
of
drunkenness
public
drunkenness,
even
during
daytime
hours
during
the
weekends,
is
astonishing,
with
people
going
into
fence
yards
to
have
romantic
liaisons
to
people
losing
their
clothes
in
the
middle
of
the
night
and
all
kinds
of
things
left
there
for
residents
to
pick
up
in
the
morning.
It's
incredibly
disruptive.
H
I
would
like
to
see
a
restaurant
with
no
loud
music
or
music.
That
is.
H
Conducted
at
reasonable
decibels-
and
I
would
also
like
to
see
people
monitor
the
the
behavior
of
the
people
who
frequent
their
establishment,
because
if
they
over
serve
them,
they
are
liable
for
what
they
do.
So
this
concludes
my
statement.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
X
Hi
good
evening,
my
name
is
julissa
morenko.
I
live
at
2900
franklin
road.
I
echo
the
sentiment
of
the
prior
speakers
with
regards
to
the
be
live
venue,
I'd
like
to
actually
share
with
you
just
a
little
bit
about
my
background,
because
I
think
it's
important
to
this
conversation.
Like
all
the
speakers,
I
am
all
for
music.
I
am
all
for
culture.
I
am
all
for
arts.
I've
lived
in
and
or
worked
in
arlington
for
the
last
20
years.
X
Most
recently
I
live
in
lyon,
village,
my
husband
and
I
are
of
hispanic
descent.
We
grew
up
in
the
inner
city
in
major
cities
in
the
south
bronx,
as
well
as
in
hudson
county
new
jersey.
I
bring
this
up
because
our
upbringing
is
one
of
being
very
much
centered
around
busy
streets
bars
restaurants,
urban
dwellings,
at
the
same
time
all
having
suburban
neighborhoods.
X
This
is
what
we've
grown
up
with
and
we
feel
extremely
privileged
to
be
able
to
find
a
neighborhood
like
lion
village
in
our
adult
life
to
be
able
to
live
in
just
the
same.
However,
this
example
of
putting
this
music
venue
in
its
current
location,
in
the
way
that
is
proposed
is
an
example
to
me
of
arlington,
trying
to
be
a
big
city
without
having
the
pillars
necessary
to
be
a
big
city
such
as
police
code
enforcement.
X
With
regards
to
the
music
sounds
with
regards
to
the
decimal
sounds
such
as
enforcement
that
our
neighborhoods
are
really
handed
to
deal
with
the
destruction
that
occurs
on
any
given
night
for
the
staff
to
indicate
that
they
feel
that
this
does
not
in
any
way
shape
or
form
proposed
used
to
adversely
impact.
This
neighborhood
is
incorrect.
I
invite
the
staff
to
come
to
lion
village
on
a
friday
evening
on
a
saturday
evening
to
see
some
of
the
sentiments
that
my
neighbors
have
expressed
earlier.
In
this
conversation,
we
are
all
in
support
of
music.
X
We
are
all
in
support
of
living
in
an
urban
dwelling.
We
understand
the
considerations
that
come
with
living
in
these
neighborhoods,
but
it's
now
at
a
point
on
wilson
boulevard
in
clarendon.
That
is
having
a
tremendous
effect
on
the
neighborhoods
of
individuals
that
really
love
to
live
in
this
neighborhood
work
and
thrive.
X
In
this
neighborhood,
but
unfortunately,
due
to
the
lack
of
enforcement
due
to
the
ability
to
create
venues
like
this,
like
what
was
with
lausanne,
wilson
and
now
would
be
live
due
to
creating
these
mechanisms
that
aren't
being
appropriately
enforced
for
the
reasons
that
have
been
stated
earlier,
but
then,
additionally
cell
aren't
in
support
of
the
neighbors
that
live
in
this
area
that
want
to
see
it
thrive.
It
is
extremely
extremely
concerning,
as
my
colleagues
have
indicated,
there
are
small
children.
There
are
families
on
our
block.
We
have
a
group
home
people
with
disabilities.
X
I
am
exactly
one
block
away
from
this
location.
I
invite
you,
you
know,
as
we
all
know,
sound
and
music
travels
very
very
differently.
I
live
at
the
corner
of
franklin
and
fillmore,
and
on
saturday
evening
I
could
hear
the
music
that
was
coming
from
four
blocks
away
in
my
backyard.
This
is
not
reasonable.
I
genuinely
ask
the
county
to
please
I
respect
that
they
reconsider
this
proposal,
as
is
to
ensure
the
safety
and
the
comfortness
of
this
community.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
time.
A
Thank
you,
ms
morenko,
madam
clerk,
is
that
our
final
speaker.
A
Y
M
Okay,
I
would
need
to
check
that
with
the
deputy
clerk,
okay.
A
If
you
don't
mind,
we
have
another
item
on
our
agenda.
Why
don't
we
go
ahead
and
hear
that
while
our
clerk
checks
and
and
we'll
have
a
break
between
items
and
if
so,
if
we
can
confirm
we'll,
have
you
on
the
docket?
Thank
you,
okay.
Excellent.
Let
me
turn
the
conversation
over
to
the
manager
item.
One
is
the
rixie
unit
conversion,
mr
manager.
I
believe
we
have
a
staff
report.
K
Yeah,
thank
you,
madam
chair
courtney,
badger
and
mark
mccauley
are
here
for
a
slide
presentation
over
to
you,
ms
badger.
Z
Okay,
so
I
am
I'm
courtney
badger
with
the
planning
division
and
tonight
I'll
be
providing
a
staff
overview
of
the
marymount
university
proposal
for
a
hotel
conversion.
Z
The
site
is
located
within
the
ballston
metro
station
area,
on
the
northwest
corner
of
glebe
road
and
fairfax
drive
and
is
within
site
plan
number
64..
The
hotel
use
is
proposed
to
take
place
in
the
ricci
residential
building,
which
is
the
building
outlined
in
white
on
the
left
image
and
shown
in
street
view
on
the
right.
Z
Z
The
site
is
located
within
site
plan
number
64,
which
was
approved
by
the
county
board
in
1967.
At
the
time
of
the
approval
it
included
the
well-known
blue
goose
building
that
was
home
to
marymount's
bolston
campus
in
2014.
The
county
board
approved
a
site
plan
amendment
to
redevelop
the
blue
goose
site
with
two
new
buildings,
an
office
building
for
marymount's
classes
and
offices
in
a
residential
building.
The
rixie
building
the
rixie
was
owned
and
managed
by
the
shushan
company
and
the
residential
building.
At
the
time
it
opened
was
a
conventional
multi-family.
Z
Building
in
2019
marymount
bought
the
residential
building
from
the
shushan
company
and
operates
it
to
this
day
as
student
residential
housing.
And
although
it
supports
student
housing,
it's
not
considered
a
dormitory
use
by
the
zoning
ordinance
because
it
does
not
have
a
single
or
shared
kitchen
and
living
area
for
the
group
of
residents.
Rather,
it's
a
traditional
multi-family
building,
that's
exclusively
leased
to
marymount
students.
Z
The
site
is
zoned
co
2.5,
which
is
a
mixed-use
district
and
has
a
general
land
use
plan
designation
of
medium
office
apartment
hotel,
both
the
zoning
and
the
glove
allow
for,
and
support
hotelies
at
this
location,
so
marymount
university
as
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
permanently
convert
up
to
133
units
from
residential
to
hotel
use.
This
makes
up
approximately
50
percent
of
the
units
in
the
rixie
building.
Z
The
proposed
hotel
use
will
be
concentrated
on
floors
8
through
14
with
other
floors
reserved
for
residential
use
and
can
only
be
accessed
by
residents
as
a
part
of
the
2014
site
plan.
Amendment
approval
there
are
11
cafs
that
are
required
in
this
building
and
with
this
amendment,
that
number
will
not
change.
Z
One
thing
marymount
has
stated
that
they
are
confident
that
students
will
not
be
displaced
as
part
of
this
request
and
to
the
extent
that
there
are
students
that
are
displaced,
marymount
has
stated
that
they
will
be
accommodated
on
their
main
campus
housing
with
the
hotel
conversion.
The
applicant
is
requesting
a
modification
to
the
parking
requirements.
Z
So,
in
the
past
few
years
the
county
has
seen
a
handful
of
hotel
conversion
projects.
Typically,
temporary
conversions
that
take
place
during
the
initial
lease
up
of
a
building
staff
intends
to
study
that
issue
further
to
inform
a
county
policy
in
the
next
few
years.
However,
we
see
this
request
as
distinctly
different
from
past
requests
for
two
main
reasons.
Z
Z
Additionally,
since
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic
in
early
2020,
the
county
has
lost
approximately
1
600
hotel
rooms,
and
these
permanent
hotel
units
would
help
to
start
offset
that
loss,
particularly
in
boston
where
we
know
the
boston
holiday
inn
across
the
street
from
the
site
has
submitted
plans
to
redevelop
their
hotel
building
into
a
multi-family
residential
building.
The
second
way
that
this
request
is
different
than
past
requests
is
that
marymount
university
is
using
the
addition
of
hotel
use
to
supplement
learning
within
their
hospitality
innovation
track
of
the
mba
program.
Z
Z
A
Thank
you
so
much.
This
is
a
little
bit
of
a
mess.
I
think
there's
no
good
way
to
handle
this
either
to
interrupt
this
conversation
or
to
ask
the
speaker
who
in
fact
did
sign
up
with
our
system,
as
we
asked
people
to
do
to
wait
until
the
conclusion
this
item,
which
may
go
on
for
a
little
while,
yet
I
am
going
to
take
the
again
there's
no
good
way
to
resolve
this.
A
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
allow
you
to
give
your
testimony,
sir,
for
those
three
minutes
now,
so
that
you
don't
have
to
stay
here
for
the
rest
of
the
evening.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
Y
A
lot
I
appreciate
it,
my
name
is
steve.
Wakeman
I've
lived
in
lyon,
village
for
25
years
and
21
on
garfield
street,
about
four
houses
in
from
mexico
blues,
and
I
I
think
the
sort
of
the
key
is
that
we're
out
of
balance
right.
I
mean
the
balance
of
urban
design,
a
holistic
approach,
a
holistic
to
work
life
living
and
entertaining,
and
right
now
we're
so
over
saturated
from
fillmore
on
wilson,
from
fillmore
all
the
way
to
10th
street,
with
nightclubs,
pretending
to
be
bars
and
restaurants.
They
really
aren't.
Y
Y
We
have
actually
tenants
that
live
across
the
street
now
from
us
who
used
to
come
to
wilson
hardware
when
they
were
under
age
from
college
park,
because
they
knew
college
park
was
serving
underage
kids.
So
it's
drawing
far
and
wide,
and
I
think
it
really
just
needs
to
get
into
control
and
it
is
out
of
control
and
we're
out
of
balance.
Y
It
is
it's
not
really
good
urban
design
either
I
mean
you
want
to
have
a
balance
between
entertainment,
shopping
living
working
and
it
it
it
is.
Currently
you
know
it's
just
a
major
issue:
you
can
you
can?
We
can
hear
the
words
from
the
music
and
it's
not
live
music.
It's
inside
the
construction
of
the
buildings
is
not
built
for
a
live,
live
music
venue.
Unfortunately,
this
is
wilson
hardware
whitlow's
anything
with
a
rooftop.
I
know
we
keep
passing
these
left
and
right
and
we're
during
the
pandemic
two
years
now,
but
it
really.
Y
It
is
not
we're
not
creating
a
community
right.
We're
we're
creating
a
a
live
music
venue,
we're
creating
restaurants
which
are
out
over
serving,
and
then
it
really
becomes
a
disaster,
and
it
goes
into
the
into
the
neighborhoods.
I
mean
I
think
we
can
all
look
at
the
police
reports,
but
the
latest
ones.
This
was
right
in
front
of
my
house
raining
on
a
curb
a
man
handcuffed
because
he
had
punched
a
bouncer.
I
mean
any
establishment
that
has
to
have
a
bouncer
is
not
a
restaurant
right.
Y
I
mean
we
don't
shouldn't,
have
bouncers
monitoring
our
doors.
The
last
one,
which
was
about
a
year
ago,
four
doors
down
a
young
woman
who
was
half
naked,
got
thrown
out
of
a
car,
and
my
neighbor
went
out
put
a
coat
on
her
and
figured
out
how
to
get
her
home.
This
is
not
who
we
should
be
proud
of
right
and
to
to
say
that
is
that
what
time
is
that?
It's
I'm
fine
yeah
it?
It
just
needs
to
get
under
control,
it
needs
to
be
planned,
and
it's
really
just
a
free-for-all
out
there.
Y
A
A
A
A
All
right,
we'll
return
to
our
conversation
on
the
ricci,
appreciate
that
testimony
and
we'll
carry
it
with
us
as
we
move
through
our
items
tonight.
Okay,
so
with
that,
thank
you
too,
to
the
patients
of
the
applicant.
I
believe
mr
pritchard
is
here
along
with
your
team,
from
why
hotel,
as
well
as
marymount,
so,
mr
patron,
if
you
want
to
begin
or
mr
food
or
mr
hart,
whoever
would
like
to
kick
us
off.
AA
I
thanks
chair
crystal
and
good
evening
board
members
I'll
I'll,
be
brief
before
I
hand
it
over
to
barry
hart
from
marymount
and
and
jason
feudin
from
y
hotel.
You
know
we.
We
appreciate
some
of
the
the
concerns
that
have
been
raised,
but
we
we
want
to
spend
tonight
to
tell
you
about
why
we're
excited
about
this
project
and
sort
of
the
genesis
for
it.
You
know
it's
it's
an
exciting
opportunity.
I
think
ms
badger
laid
out.
Well,
you
know
the
general
points
of
the
of
the
application.
AA
The
intent
here
is
not
to
displace
anybody,
or
you
know,
make
any
kind
of
noticeable
impact
on
housing
in
the
community.
This
is
really
about
an
opportunity
to
innovate,
train
future
leaders
in
the
hospitality
space,
and
it
wasn't
accidental
that
that
these
two
came
together
on
this
project,
but
I'll
I'll
steal
no
more
of
mr
hart's
thunder,
and
he
can
give
you
a
little
additional
background
about
how
you
know
they
made
this
decision
to
join
with
why
hotel
thanks
thank.
A
AB
Thanks,
I
I'm
not
sure
I'm
going
to
call
it
thunder,
but
I
would
like
to
first
just
go
back
and
thank
courtney
for
a
very
clear
presentation.
AB
I
want
to
underscore
just
one
thing:
when
the
building
was
purchased,
tax
exempt
bonds
were
used
that
very
clearly
delineate
what
the
building
can
and
cannot
be
used
for.
So
it's
principally
for
student
residences
and
after
that
for
educational
purposes,
the
building
has
lost
millions
of
dollars
each
year.
So
we
are
extremely
excited
to
find
a
way
to
use
this
asset
in
a
way
that
will
grow
young
entrepreneurs
who
want
to
do
innovative
things
in
hospitality.
AB
It's
not
the
sort
of
traditional
approach
to
hospitality
management.
It's
much
more
focused
on
technology,
innovation
analytics
trying
to
figure
out
the
models
that
will
work
with
today's.
You
know
people
who
travel
so
we
partnered
with
why
now
placemaker,
specifically
because
they
are
a
technology
company.
First
that
really
focuses
on
how
that
technology
can
change
the
hospitality
experience.
AB
Our
dean
of
the
business
school
is
extremely
excited
one.
He
had
jason
foudine,
the
ceo
as
a
student,
and
now
we
get
to
take
that
full
circle
and
really
sort
of
build
on
something
that
will
we
think
change
how
hospitality
works,
change,
how
american
hospitality
works
since
it's
based
in
the
you
know
the
greater
dmv
area,
and
it
will
certainly
change
how
marymount
works
with
the
community
in
the
boston
area
jason.
AB
AC
Yeah,
thank
you
very
happy
to,
as
barry
mentioned,
and
thank
you
for
having
us
board
members,
it's
good
to
see.
Y'all
again,
it's
been
a
little
while
we're
in
the
business
of
innovation
and
hospitality.
AC
We
started
in
arlington
county,
the
dmv
is
our
home
and
when
mayor
mount
approached
us
with
the
opportunity
to
advance
education
work
with
the
university,
that's
particularly
focused
on
underserved
students.
We
thought
that
was
exciting.
You
know
a
lot
of
places
in
america
in
hospitality
generally
have
a
a
hotel
tied
to
their
use.
AC
I
think
most
famously
is
cornell
and
when
marymount
said
hey
is
there
a
way
to
take
what
you're
doing
from
the
data,
science
and
software
engineering
and
access
control
and
utilization
and
all
the
things
you
guys
are
doing
for
consumer
experiences
and
have
it
so
our
students
can
can
learn
and
then
potentially
go
into
the
world
and
form
form
their
own
businesses
or
work
with
folks
that
are
doing
innovation
and
hospitality.
AC
We
said
absolutely,
you
know
in
arlington
county
we've.
Never
we've
been
around
now
for
five
years.
I
think
five
years
in
arlington
and
you've
never
heard
us
asked
to
convert
a
market
use
apartment
to
hotel
and
and
that's
not
by
accident,
but
in
this
particular
case
this
isn't
about
mark
youth
department.
This
is
really
about
advancement
of
education
and
so
we're
very
excited
to
work
with
maryman
on
this
and
happy
to
answer
any
and
all
questions
about
our
program,
our
company,
and
what
we're
up
to.
A
Great,
we
appreciate
that
thanks
so
much
okay,
I
believe
we
have
a
representative
of
the
planning
mission.
Actually,
the
chair
of
the
planning
commission
with
us
is
that
correct,
mr,
we
are
you
on
the
line.
A
AD
Yeah,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
board,
thank
you
for
the
record
to
start
I'm
daniel
weir,
and
I
am
here
on
behalf
of
the
planning
commission.
The
commission
heard
this
item
on
march
7
of
this
year.
There
were
no
speakers
and
no
reports
from
planning,
commission
committees
or
from
other
commissions
the
the
commission
supports
the
conversion
of
the
added
recommendation
that
the
site
plan
conditions
place
their
own
independent
requirements
that
the
conversion,
which
continues
with
the
land,
be
valid
only
upon
continued
academic
use
of
the
subject
property.
AD
Excuse
me
that
said,
the
commission
had
several
concerns
consistent
with
concerns
raised
in
response
to
previous
requests
to
convert
dwelling
units
into
other
uses
and
that's
sort
of
one
of
the
underlying
themes
right
here
right
raised
concerns
raised
in
response
to
other
conversion
requests.
Unfortunately,
these
requests
are
in
large
part,
being
evaluated
individualistically
and
arising
out
of
applicants
short-term
needs
with
very
few
systematic
and
a
priori
tools
that
help
us
think
in
decades
about
these
kind
of
requests.
AD
These
conversions
have
the
common
effect
of
taking
dwelling
units
off
of
the
board
and
that's
true
of
this
building
as
well.
Anyone
who
can
live
at
the
rixie
can
also
live
anywhere
else.
Apartments
in
one
building
versus
apartments
in
another
are
pretty
much
substitute
goods
and
the
rixie's
in
the
same
market
for
merrimack
community
members,
lease
payments
as
every
other
multi-family
rental
building
in
the
area,
just
because
a
few
people
can
rent
their
just
because
only
a
few
people
can
rent
there,
because
it
doesn't
mean
that
the
conversions
somehow
don't
shrink
the
market.
AD
We
members
of
the
planning
commission
want
to
be
available
to
evaluate
these
requests
more
deliberatively
with
the
benefit
of
purpose-specific,
systematic
analyses
and
criteria,
and
in
this
case
there
are
has
been
pointed
out,
a
handful
of
obvious
distinctions
from
prior
future
requests,
and
the
commission
very
much
supports
the
educational
opportunities
raised
by
this
project.
But
each
time
we
look
at
one
of
these
requests.
We're
only
available
to
reactively
identify
distinctions
between
the
impacts
that
these
requests
have
on
comp
plan
elements.
AD
But
there
is
a
real
concern
that
each
time
we
do
that
we're
just
sort
of
expanding
the
canon
of
situations
that
can
be
drawn
upon
in
support
of
site
plan
amendments
to
that
protect
landlords
from
having
to
compete
on
price
staff.
Notes
in
the
report
that
it
intends
to
study
these
conversions,
but
not
before
late
2023.
AD
AD
This
wasn't
part
of
the
commission's
recommendations
for
this
project,
but
I
will
reiterate
that
the
commission
has
supported
both
the
work
plan
and
has
supported
accelerating
the
timetable
for
this
component
of
the
work
plan
and
would
encourage
the
board
to
continue
to
find
opportunities
and
resources
to
make
to
to
to
enable
the
planning
staff
and
see
phd
to
move
this
part
of
the
work
plan
forward.
So
with
that,
that's
my
report,
I
will
remain
available
for
any
questions.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
much
cheerwear.
We
appreciate
your
coming
in
tonight
and
the
ongoing
deliberations
the
planning
commission
has
been
engaged
in,
as
have
we
as
a
number
of
these,
as
you
mentioned,
do
come
forward.
I
will
open
the
floor
for
questions.
I
have
a
few
number
myself,
mr
differentiate
and
I'll
note
as
well.
We've
got
as
was
mentioned,
mr
fusorelli,
the
director
of
planning,
as
well
as
miss
badger.
I
for
me
anyway.
B
B
The
planning
commission's
recommendations
recommendation
with
respect
to
the
academic
use,
I'm
trying
to
understand,
because
the
planning
commission
debated
this,
do
we
include
conditions
like
academic
use
in
other
cases,
I
I
just
I
I
feel
like
this
is
something
that
we
that
that
we
may
have
seen
before
and
it's
it's
included
the
rationale
of
not
keeping
in
touch
with
upon
the
sale
of
the
property.
B
AE
Certainly
I'll
take
a
first
crack
at
that
and
then
see
if
additional
staff
might
might
want
to
add,
but
again
good
evening,
anthony
puccerelli
with
the
planning
division.
I
think
you
know
you'll
recall
and
you'll
see
a
lot
of
instances
where
we
bring
items
before
the
board,
whether
it's
site
plan
amendments
and
other
actions
that
do
manage
or
regulate
in
in
various
ways
uses
right
and
so
converting
from
perhaps
a
more
restrictive
use
to
a
less
restrictive
use.
AE
In
this
particular
case,
I
think
one
of
the
challenges
that
staff
considered
was
really
for
an
action
where
the
board
would
re,
re-um
or
approve
a
conversion
of
the
use
in
this
instance
that
runs
with
the
land,
the
enforcement
and
tracking
mechanism
for
a
site
plan.
Amendment
of
this
type
is
not
something
that
we
typically
would
employ.
AE
I
think
for
some
of
the
reasons
that
ms
badger
spoke
to
and
that
are
covered
in
the
report.
I
think
you
know
where
the
opportunities
present
themselves.
We
try
and
structure
site
plan
conditions
that
are
really
you
know
practical
and
enforceable.
AE
B
Got
it
like,
I
said
that
helps
certainly
difficulty
of
enforcement.
It
doesn't.
It
doesn't
necessarily
say
that
this
do
do
we
ever
enforce
items
like
this
that
have
that
are
relevant
to
the
sale
or
almost
in
no
cases
do
we
do
that.
AE
Thank
you
I'll
speak
to.
I
think
this
one
particular
case,
and
then,
if
I
know
mr
schreiber
is,
is
on
the
meeting
as
well.
I
believe
he
may
have
additional
examples
to
point
to,
but
I
think,
what's
what's
important
to
note
in
this
particular
instance:
when
marymount
purchased
the
rixie
building,
there
was
no
land
use
action
that
needed
to
come
before
this
board
related
to
that
transaction,
and
so
with
that
purchase
and
their
process,
they
went
through
to
acquire
the
building.
AE
You
know
they
did
take
the
units
that
we
believe
were
open
to
the
general
market
and
took
them
off
the
general
market
really
and
have
been
limiting
them
to
student
housing
since
that
time.
So
there
are
examples
like
that
where,
in
this
case,
an
educational
institution,
academic
institution
without
the
board,
action
was
able
to
shift
kind
of
the
nature
of
those
units,
but
if
mr
schreiber
has
any
other
examples
to
point
to
that,
address
your
question
I'll
ask
him.
Thank
you
great
thanks.
AF
Mr
trump
good
evening
board
members
is
aaron
sharper
with
the
planning
division
and
to
address
a
specific
question
from
you,
mr
deferente,
about
where
have
we
done
this
in
the
past,
and
I
think,
ultimately,
what
the
recommendation
is
to
have
a
reverter
clause
so
that
the
use
would
revert
back
to
the
previous
use
upon
some
point
in
time
or
some
action,
and
I
think
that
is
not
something
that
I'm
aware
of
that.
AF
We
have
done
routinely
at
least
not
in
my
12
years
here
with
the
county
and
again
it's
just
it's
it's
an
enforcement
challenge.
We
would
not
know
when
that
property
is
sold
and
to
whom
and
whether
it
continues
in
educational
use
and
so
for
the
reasons
of
not
being
able
to
actively
enforce
it.
We
would
have
to
be
reacting
to
something
more
from
a
violation
standpoint.
AF
We
did
not
decide
to
support
that,
and
also
for
the
reasons
raised
by
ms
badger.
We
think
that
the
conversion
of
the
use
is
appropriate,
but
it
would
just
be
too
problematic
for
us
to
track
and
to
enforce
and
then
to
actually
put
reverter
clause
that
makes
it
go
back
to
some
other
use
and
not
knowing
what
that
impact
would
be,
or
all
the
reasons
why.
O
B
Got
it
okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
miss
core
as
well.
What's
helpful,
I
just
struggling
with
this,
because
the
the
other
rationale
with
respect
to
loss
of
bed
units
seemed
more
persuasive,
not
thinking
through
the
the
run
with
the
land
piece
thanks.
Madam
chair.
A
P
F
Thank
you,
madam
jared.
This
question
is
probably
best
suited
to
mr
hart.
Can
you
give
us
a
little
bit
more
detail
if
you're
still
on
the
call
about
the
purchase
agreement
that
marymount
had
for
the
rixie
property
and
does
what
you
described
earlier
mean
that
you
are
prohibited
from
making
these
units
available
to
non-students
or
you
would
have
to
go
through
some
sort
of
an
approval
process
in
order
to
do
so,.
AB
Sure
so,
when
the
university
purchased
the
building,
the
idea
is
that
it
would
be
sort
of
an
educational
community.
It
wouldn't
be
just
for
marymount
students,
so
we
anticipated
that
george
mason
george
washington,
george,
shall
of
the
georges,
would
want
to
sort
of
have
a
place
also
for
their
graduate
students,
so
that
didn't
turn
out.
So
the
building
never
really
was
able
to
hit
the
occupancy
that
it
needs
to
the
bond
covenants,
restricted
to
student
residences
or
educational
purposes.
F
E
I
don't
need
to
elaborate
how
important
it
is
to
actually
do
the
study
on
how
the
hotel
use
is
appropriate.
Here
we
are,
we
are
finding
ourselves
against
against
some
some
number
of
robes.
You
know
cornered
in
one.
One
thing
is
that
the
the
kind
of
agreement
that
you
know
the
kind
of
loans
that
were
needed
for
for
the
purchase
of
that
so
the
business
model
of
this
is
not
not
easily
not
easily
or
or
almost
impossible
to
change.
Now
I
have
a
question
in
the
staff
report.
There
is
emphasis
on
saying
that.
E
Well
we
have
it.
It
appears
to
be
that,
like
we
have
a
deficit
of
a
potential
deficit
of
hotel
rooms
in
bellstone,
because
we
are
losing
1600
hotel
rooms.
At
the
same
time
we
have
been
experiencing
a
you
know
what
what
in
stock
exchange
speak.
It's
called
the
correction
in
terms
of
the
amount
of
hotel
capacity
in
arlington,
so
how?
E
AE
So,
thank
you,
mr
karen
tonis.
You
know
I
will
just
I
will
point
out
and
then
I'll
ask
if
our
colleague
mark
mccauley
is
on
the
call
and
wants
to
speak
to
it
from
an
economic
development
perspective.
AE
You
know,
but
I
will
point
out
that
one
of
the
things
that
staff
complaining
staff
considered
in
the
evaluation
was,
you
know
in
terms
of
the
general
land
use
plan
and
the
zoning
itself
when
measured
against
those
current
conditions.
You
know
hotel
use
is
a
use,
that's
supported
at
this
site.
AE
Obviously
the
history
of
the
entitlement
here
you
know
was
for
something
different,
but
if
a
hotel
building
had
originally
been
proposed
for
this
property,
we
would
find
consistency
in
terms
of
the
existing
planning
guidance
that's
in
place,
but
mr
mccauley
may
want
to
speak
to
it.
I
think
more
to
the
other
aspects
of
your
question.
AG
AG
The
loss
of
hotel
rooms
is
a
real
challenge,
as
is
the
re,
the
development
of
new
hotel
rooms,
and
if
you
look
at
the
past
15
years
in
arlington,
the
ability
to
build
new
hotel
units
has
been
dwarfed
by
the
ability
to
build
new
housing
units.
Given
the
economics
and
so
the
the
the
challenges
is
that
if
you
lose
hotel
inventory
or
don't
continue
to
add
to
it,
it's
very
hard
to
react
to
the
need
for
those
and
hotels
do
support
a
number
of
things
in
our
in
our
community.
AG
Obviously,
the
businesses
that
work
here
are
residents
who
live
in
high-rise,
buildings
that
have
friends
and
visitors
coming
in
family
coming
in
and
they
do
support
a
lot
of
spending
in
the
community.
So
we
are
concerned
about
the
loss
of
inventory
and
the
inability
to
quickly
recapture
that
inventory
through
new
redevelopment.
A
If
I
could
follow
up
on
that,
I
think,
as
mr
carontona
sort
of
bemoaned
right,
it's
and
I
think
the
chair
of
the
planet
commission
mentioned
it
too.
I
think
where
it's
the
lack
of
of
long-term
planning
framework
right,
which
is
a
challenge
to
all
of
us.
It
feels
very
reactive
to
say:
we've
lost,
you
know,
1600
hotel
rooms.
A
You
know
you
can
take
that
to
sort
of
its
adam
sertum
argument
and
we
could
say
on
either
side
if
we
were
talking
about
converting
vacant
office
space
to
meet
the
need
for
hotel
rooms.
Absolutely
if
you
were
to
come
to
us
and
say
we
should
convert
committed,
affordable
buildings
to
hotels,
we
would
say
absolutely
not
right
and
I
think
we're
really
struggling
with
the
in-between
because
of
the
lack
of
framework.
A
I
guess
the
question
I
have-
and
this
may
be,
for
both
of
you,
mr
fusually,
mr
mccauley,
is
how
do
we
generally
think
about
the
mix
of
hotel
relative
to
apartments
at
a
larger
or
longer
term
scale?
Is
that
a
trade-off?
We
evaluate,
for
example,
during
our
sector
plans?
A
I
genuinely
don't
know
I
mean,
as
mr
furley
mentioned,
we
have
the
oah
category
right
in
our
zoning
ordinance,
but
where,
where
do
we
have
these
conversations
about
the
right
balance
between
enough
hotel
rooms
to
serve
our
hospitality
sector
and
deliver
the
benefits
mr
mccauley
described,
with
the
need
for
sufficient
apartments
to
meet
the
you
know
extraordinary
demand
for
housing
in
this
community?
Where
do
we
have
the
opportunity
to
think
about
that
in
the
long
term?
Is
it
during
the
sector,
plan
or
area
plan
process.
AE
With
respect
to
that
specific
question,
you
know
from
my
recollection,
I
know
that
over
time
in
our
various
sector
planning
efforts
for
many
of
our
many
of
our
metro
station
areas,
there
have
been
certain
uses.
We
want
to
incentivize
over
others.
Right.
Clarendon
is
an
example,
we're
over
time
wanting
to
shift
the
balance
and
concentrate
more
residential,
crystal
city
with
the
2010
plan.
I
am
not
recalling
from
top
of
mind
any
instances
where
we've
actually
from
a
sector
planning
perspective,
made
sort
of
a
concerted
effort
to
incentivize
hotel.
AE
I
think
we've
often-
and
there
may
be
others
in
the
meeting-
who
do
recall
specific
examples,
for
example,
but
there
have
been
instances
where
we've
acknowledged
the
the
presence
of
the
hotel
sector
and
sort
of
some
of
the
synergies
that
that
presents.
AE
I
I
guess
I
will
append
my
just
one
part
of
my
recent
response
is
that
in
the
advertisement
one
example
I
think,
where
we
are
being
more
flexible
for
the
purposes
of
being
able
to
consider
known
interest
in
hotel,
is
with
the
clarendon
sector
plan,
update
that
this
board
advertised
on
saturday
and
will
come
back
in
april
thinking
differently
about
you
know
whether
or
not
hotels
should
count
as
a
commercial
use
as
part
of
its
use
mix.
So
that's
one
very.
AE
I
think
current
example,
perhaps
not
hyper
specific,
but
nonetheless
still
opening
up
that
flexibility.
I'll
ask
if
mr
mccauley
or
others
have
anything
to
add.
AG
Yeah,
I
will
add
that
this
is
a
bit
dated,
but
it's
a
it's
a
good
sort
of
walk
back
in
history
about
you
know.
10,
12
years
ago
there
was
a
concern
about
the
lack
of
hotel
inventory
really
15
years
ago.
Just
before
I
joined
and
we
hadn't
had
a
new
hotel
unit
built
in
decades,
and
there
was
a
concerted
effort
in
our
work
plan,
an
aed
to
to
rectify
that,
and
we
looked
at
a
bunch
of
options.
AG
The
westin
to
ballston
was
one
of
them,
the
public
part
of
partnership
and
courthouse
with
the
residents
in
the
attraction
of
kimton
hotels
to
roslyn.
We
really
worked
hard
with
our
developers
to
sort
of
find
spots
to
put
hotels
because
one
of
the
biggest
complaints
we
got
from
our
businesses
was
there
wasn't
enough
class
a
hotel
space
in
arlington,
so
it
can
turn
into
a
real
challenge.
AG
The
challenge
the,
as
I
said
before,
the
the
challenge
that
then
becomes
how
quickly
you
can
fix
it
becomes
a
multi-year
process,
if
not
more,
of
trying
to
then
re-attract
hotels
into
a
market
and
in
a
particular
marketplace
where
a
broader
marketplace,
where
hotel
development's
going
to
be
constrained
by
you,
know,
financing,
there's
still
going
to
be
a
lot
of,
I
think
hangover
effect
from
the
pandemic
about
new
hotel
financing.
So
we
certainly
want
to
continue
to
be
part
of
the
conversation.
AG
A
I
appreciate
that
and
I'll
know
too,
in
terms
of
studies
that
we
we
do
have
an
outstanding
request
to
the
planning
staff,
which
I
know
mr
fruscilli
is
working
on.
A
question
we've
asked
in
context
of
the
budget,
which
is
if
we
were
to
allocate
funding
for
consulting
resources.
Can
that
expedite
the
type
of
study
about
these
conversions
say
for
my
part
and
then
I'll?
A
Look
to
mr
dorsey
for
a
motion
here,
I
think,
backed
into
a
corner,
is
not
a
bad
way
to
describe
better
back
on
the
ropes
the
circumstances
of
this
particular
opportunity
or
such
that
I
I
understand
the
ask
and
I
am
inclined
to
support
it.
One
of
the
reasons
I
think
that
it
is
so
important
for
us
to
have
this
conversation
is
that
to
have
left
on
the
consent
agenda
would
would
mean
that
the
staff
report
is
written.
A
As
the
last
word-
and
I
will
express
speaking
at
least
for
myself-
some
real
discomfort
with
the
sort
of
assumptions
or
ideas
that
are
expressed
in
the
staff
report,
the
the
multiple
citation
of
the
loss
of
1600
hotel
rooms
as
a
justification
to
convert
and
and
really
this
is
important,
convert
existing
housing.
This
is
not
talking
about
newly
delivered
during
initial
lease
up
right,
which
is
the
circumstances
under
which
we
first
met
y
hotel,
for
example,
and
under
which
we
started
to
entertain
these.
A
It's
about
the
conversion
of
existing
housing
and
and
as
we've
talked
about
here
today.
I
think
that
that
I
am
not
minimizing
the
the
impact
that
the
loss
of
1600
hotel
units
is
going
to
have
on
our
economy
and
our
community
in
arlington.
I
think
mr
mccauley
has
expressed
it's
a
real
concern
and
it's
one
that
we
ought
to
be
attuned
to,
but
to
sacrifice
a
resource
that
is
perhaps
even
more
needed
in
this
community,
which
is
housing,
makes
me
really
uncomfortable.
A
And
so
I
come
to
this
ultimately
with
some
concern
or
resignation
or
recognition
that
the
idiosyncrasies
of
the
specific
circumstances
are
enough
for
me
to
make
an
exception,
not
with
enthusiasm
which
not
to
mischaracterize
the
staff
report
but
but
feels
to
me
anyway,
could
be
read
here.
We
know
that
there
are
other
property
owners
who
are
interested
in
being
not
to
put
too
fine
a
point
on
it.
A
But
I
appreciate
how
mr
weir,
characterized
it
perhaps
insulated
from
price
pressures
to
to
come
forward
with
motivated
by
such
good,
to
come
forward
with
proposals
for
more
enslaved
for
more
conversions,
and
I
would
like
to
yet
again
express
my
lack
of
interest
in
seeing
more
of
those
and
I'll
make
just
one
final
point,
which
is,
I
think,
sometimes
this
concept
of
the
impact
of
an
individual
building
being
taken
off
the
market
or
some
subset
of
units
being
taken
off
the
market.
And
that's
overall
effect
on
affordability
seems
absurd.
A
I
you
know
recently
been
talking
to
folks
at
the
chamber
in
niapp
and
that
sort
of
seems
unreasonable
to
them.
There
has
been
an
analysis
done
out
of
security,
syracuse
university
looking
at
the
american
housing
survey.
That
indicates
this
is
the
concept
of
filtering
that,
as
you
know,
market
as
housing
ages,
it
becomes
more
affordable.
That
suggests
that
that
is
happening
generally
and
probably
higher
for
rental
units
at
a
rate
of
two
percent
a
year
and
so
for
a
five-year-old
building,
which
is
what
we've
got
in
the
rixie
right.
A
That
means
that
it
is
affordable
to
somebody
at
10,
less
of
ami
than
when
it
was
built,
and
so
you
start
looking
at
that
at
15
or
20
percent,
or
it's
right
at
15
or
20
years,
and
this
starts
to
become
housing
stock
that
we
approved
potentially
as
luxury.
That
is
now
maybe
within
what
we
consider
a
policy
area
for
us
which
is
workforce
housing
at
80
ami.
A
This
is
a
very
real
concern.
I
think
for
all
of
us
and
needs
to
be,
and
so
again
you
know
the
the
specific
circumstances
of
this
proposal
are
such
that
I
can
navigate
my
way
towards
being
comfortable
with
this
vote,
but
I
just
I
really
want
to
try
to
put
a
marker
down
that
speaking,
at
least
for
me,
I
am
very
uninterested
in
entertaining
more
of
these
conversion
proposals
until
we
have
at
a
bare
minimum
some
some
policy
analysis
to
guide
us.
A
F
Well,
despite
all
that,
you
just
said
I'll
move
that
the
county
board
approves.
I
plan
64
to
allow
the
conversion
of
up
to
133
units
from
residential
use,
to
hotel
use
at
the
rixie
building,
with
a
modification
for
the
parking
requirements
and
subject
to
all
previously
approved
conditions,
along
with
amended
conditions,
numbers,
37
and
47,
and
a
new
condition.
Number
68..
F
I
will
briefly,
you
know,
I
recognize
the
discomfort
that
you
shared
madam
chair,
with
reducing
the
number
of
units
that
could
be
available
for
rental
leases
broadly
and
are
not
fully
understanding
the
impacts
of
such
decisions
that
we're
making
on
a
one-off
basis.
Today,
you
know,
the
cases
that
we
have
explored
in
arlington
have
been.
You
know,
exceptions
the
unicorns,
the
idiosyncratic
ones,
as
you
described,
either
in
cases
in
some
cases,
units
that
were
never
never
were
utilized
for
rental
lease
purposes.
They
were
utilized
for
other
kind
of
rental
arrangements.
F
Collectively
they
don't,
in
my
opinion,
amount
to
a
trend,
and
you
know
the
market
impacts
such
as
they
are
are
are
hard
to
discern
here,
and
I
don't
think
they
would
be
the
same
as
if
these
were
units
that
were
in
operation
under
a
rental
lease
arrangement.
If
they
were
to
be
converted.
Clearly,
we
would
be
talking
about
something
very
different.
F
You
know,
I
think
why
are
we
getting
these
one-offs?
Well,
it's
kind
of
because
the
market
doesn't
support
the
conversion
of
these
anywhere
else.
It's
it's
much
more
lucrative
for
someone
to
rent
these
as
apartments
that
are
leased
in
arlington.
The
reason
we're
getting
these
are
because
we
have
certain
circumstances
that
are
are
different
than
that
that
have
various
issues
and
that's
why
we're
seeing
this
confluence
of
a
number
of
these
amounting
to
to
not
just
one-offs
but
a
collection
of
one-offs.
F
These
should
we
get
to
the
point
where
we
can't
clearly
determine
these
to
be
idiosyncratic
in
nature,
but
maybe
part
of
a
trend
to
inoculate
people
who
are
going
through
market
challenges
in
a
way
that
is
contrary
to
our
public
policy
goals.
We
want
to
make
sure
we're
ahead
of
that,
but
I'm
pretty
comfortable
that
we're
not
behind
that
at
this
point,
because
I
can,
I
can
clearly
get
comfort
with
how
idiosyncratic
each
of
these
are.
Each
of
these
is
so
I'm
I'm
going
to
to
support
it.
I
Just
think
I
want
to
thank
our
chair
for
having
this
discussion
and
bringing
this
forward.
I
think
that
I
think
it's
important
I'm
very
comfortable
supporting
the
motion,
because
it
really
feels
unique
and
really
not
the
larger
issue
that
we're
really
concerned
about
this
sort
of
feels
like
it's,
not
it's
associated,
but
not
really
there.
I
look
forward
to
that
study.
I
I'm
I'm
wondering
perhaps
when
we
do
it
are
we
also
going
to
look
at
the
flip,
which
is
hotels,
becoming
residences
and
going
back
the
other
way
when
I
came
to
arlington
in
the
dark
ages
or
whatever.
Z
I
Long
time
ago,
that's
when
we
had
rental
properties
like
fair
links
where
I
am
converting
to
condos,
and
that
was
a
that
was
a
movement.
So
things
go
back
and
forth.
I
think
a
good
study
to
kind
of
help
us
get
our
sort
of
a
real
structure,
not
only
a
structured
way
to
think
about
how
we
do
this,
but
what's
really
going
on,
I
think,
will
be
very
useful.
So
thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
for
the
discussion
for
the
all
my
colleagues
that
were
all
pushing
on
this
study.
E
I
We've
made
that
message
clear
and
also
made
it
clear
that
this
is
a
is
a
unique
situation
and
then
just
because
we
haven't
really
talked
about
the
pro
I'll
just
say
I,
the
program
sounds
kind
of
cool
to
me.
What
they're
actually
doing
here,
I
I
think,
is
kind
of
exciting
and
I'll
be
interesting
to
see
how
it
how
it
goes
so.
The
this
particular
unique
project,
I
think,
is
really
very
interesting
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
seeing
how
it
turns
out.
Thank
you.
B
I
certainly
won't
oppose
a
study.
My
concerns
are
a
little
bit
more.
They
are
related
to
the
staff
report.
I'm
glad
that
we
pulled
this
item.
I
felt,
as
I
indicated,
that
there's
it's
a
massive
amount
of
work
and
I'm
not
I'm
not
seeking
to
be
tenured
or
harsh.
B
I
I
just
felt
a
little
bit
as
though
there
are
pieces,
a
couple
of
paragraphs
that
where
I
felt
like
it
was
the
conclusion
was
there
and
we
were
writing
to
reach
the
conclusion,
and
so
you
know
that
may
sound
a
bit
pedantic,
but
I
like
to
preserve
the
ability
to
reach
the
conclusion
sometimes,
and
so
that's
what
led
to
the
initial
questions
and
I'm
not
looking
back
I'm
looking
forward.
I
do
feel
as
though
the
one-off
point,
I
think,
is
well
made.
I'm
willing
to
support.
B
Mindful
I
mean
the
planning
commission's
reasoning
with
respect
to
educational
purposes,
had
some
had
some
sway
with
me
and
I'm
mindful
of
the
circumstances
raised
by
the
university
as
well,
but
also
ultimately
willing
to
support
just
hoping
that
going
forward
we'll
have
a
careful
approach.
Thanks.
E
Thank
you,
ma'am
chair.
I
wish
I
would
have
any
reason
to
be
really
enthusiastically
for
it
and
be
convinced,
but
I'm
not,
and
this
begins
first
and
foremost
what
with
somewhere,
where
we
didn't
start
and
I
feel
really
very
strong
about
actually
I
love
marymount
and
I
I
think
the
world
of
the
intention
to
actually
use
that
as
a
teaching
hotel
as
a
tea.
E
As
a
I
mean,
if
this
was
the
innovation
here,
I
would
have
wished
to
have
more
details
on
that,
and
I
say
that
because
I've
been
I
as
a
customer
as
a
very
interested
customer
in
teaching
hotels
run
by
universities,
and
it
is
an
amazing
thing.
Actually,
it
creates
a
completely
different
level
of
hospitality,
it
it
trains,
people
in
all
trades,
including
the
mba
level,
and
and
it's
really
a
boost
forward.
E
I
I
found
in
this
proposal
here
lack
of
definition
about
that,
and
I
I
hope
that
we
will
hear
more
and
more
positive
things
about
that.
The
second
thing
I
was
a
little
bit,
you
know
disappointed,
and
I
don't
I
still
don't
know
how
to
interpret.
That
is
the
fact
that
the
student
housing
has
not
succeeded
in
a
place
that
we
see
a
significant
addition
of
higher
education
institution
and
coming
even
more
right,
george
moore
george's,
so
george
mason
is
building
a
new,
a
new
facility.
E
So
but
you
know
the
the
the
applicant
has
explained
why
this
didn't
work
and
but-
and
we
didn't
dwelve
more
into
this
discussion,
but
you
know
that,
doesn't
it
didn't
materialize,
the
initial
initial
business
model
of
this
and
then
there
is
of
course,
the
the
huge
constraint
of
the
financial
deal
that
was
behind
the
acquisition
of
of
the
of
the
building
in
the
first
place,
and
then
there
is
one
thing
that
brings
me
over
the
over.
You
know
over
the
threshold
to
support
the
motion.
E
It
is
the
the
belief
that
bilstein
needs
this
right
now
the
wellstone
is
our.
You
know
the
weakest
market
that
we
have
it
has
I
I
I
I
side
with
with
the
opinion
that
says
this
is
a
good
location
for
a
smaller
hotel.
133
up
to
103
is
not
exactly
small,
the
small
hotel,
but
it's
a
it's
a
it's
in
a
good
location.
It
will
work
nice
with
economic
development
prospects
in
boston,
and
I
and
I-
and
I
want
to
be
supportive
of
that.
E
That
said,
yes,
it's,
it's
really
important
to
get
this
study
done
so
that
we
have
a
good
structured
approach
to
this.
Mr
fuserali,
and
I
hope
that
we
can
accelerate
that.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
agreed
all
right.
Unless
there
is
any
further
discussion,
I
think
we're
ready
for
a
vote
on
mr
dorsey's
motion,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
aye
any
opposed.
Okay.
That
carries
unanimously
congratulations
to
marymount
and
we
look
forward
to
continuing
this
conversation.
I
hope
in
context
of
a
study
and
not
in
context
of
another
application
for
conversion
all
right.
I
believe
our
next
item
pulled
well.
Let
me
turn
to
our
clerk
to
call
it.
Please.
M
Sure
item
number
nine
is
use
permit
u2732923
the
use
permit
review
for
live
entertainment
at
roadside
grill
located
at
1836
wilson
boulevard.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
We
have
a
short
verbal
presentation
by
kevin
lam
from
cphd
and
we
also
have
available
samantha
bryan
who's
with
the
police
department,
with
the
arlington
restaurant
initiative.
So
over
to
you,
mr
lam,.
Q
Thanks
so
much
good
evening,
board
members,
I'm
kevin
lam
and
I'm
the
planning
division
lead
for
this
item,
and
today
I
do
have
a
brief
verbal
presentation.
So
this
is
a
five-year
use.
Permit
review
for
live
entertainment
at
roadside
grill,
located
at
the
corner
of
wilson
boulevard
and
north
road
street,
originally
approved
in
1992.
Q
Staff
did
share
these
concerns
with
the
applicant
and
encourage
any
residents
to
report
noise
concerns
to
the
police
department.
So,
by
calling
the
non-emergency
police
number
as
standard
practice,
an
officer
will
investigate
the
reported
noise
violation
and
notify
zoning
and
code
enforcement.
Accordingly,
therefore,
staff
recommends
renewal
with
an
administrative
review
and
three
years
and
a
county
board
review
in
five
years,
which
will
allow
opportunities
for
staff,
the
community
and
the
county
board
to
continue
to
assess
the
restaurant's
live
entertainment
operations.
Q
So
that
concludes
my
presentation.
I'm
also
joined
by
samantha
brien
who's,
the
police,
department,
restaurant
and
nightlife
liaison
and
are
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
and
my
understanding
is.
The
applicant
is
also
joining
us
in
the
meeting
and
wants
to
say
a
few
words.
A
Thank
you
so
much
mr
lam,
mr
lubar,
is
that
right.
A
AH
Well,
the
only
thing
I
would
add
to
kevin's
presentation
is
that
I'm
unaware
of
any
violations
or
or
or
concerns
from
my
neighbors
over
the
past
five
years,
we've
always
tried
to
be
good
neighbors
to
everyone
in
the
adjacent
area,
and
if
anyone
ever
has
any
concerns,
they
were
always
available
via
email
or
phone
call,
or
you
can
just
walk
across
the
street
and
tell
us
something's
going
on,
and
you
know
where
we
can
address
the
situation
right
away,
but
in
the
past
five
years
since
the
last
time
this
has
been
up
to
the
board.
AH
I'm
not
aware
of
any
time
that
we've
gotten
any
sort
of
noise
violations.
Obviously,
during
the
pandemic,
things
were
a
little
different
and
there
were
more
people
sitting
outside
than
there
were
in
2019.
AH
But,
as
we've
seen
in
the
past
couple
weeks,
things
kind
of
seem
to
be
getting
back
into
a
norther,
more
normal
business
rhythm.
But
you
know,
as
as
far
as
we
are
concerned,
it's
a
much
different
situation
that
I
heard
some
of
the
residents
in
clarendon
were
concerned
about
earlier
about
a
restaurant
going
back
into
the
whitlow's
space.
AH
We're
a
neighborhood
restaurant,
we
have
live
music
on
the
weekends
acoustic
music
to
you
know,
increase
the
ambiance
of
the
inside
of
the
restaurant,
not
the
outside
of
the
restaurant,
and
you
know,
in
my
opinion,
it's
actually
not
as
loud
as
if
we
were
just
playing
house
music-
or
you
know
great
yard,
you
know
having
radio.
AH
So
you
know
I'm
willing
to
take
any
questions
from
the
board,
but
I
think
we've
had
an
exemplary
record
over
the
past
five
years
of
of
keeping
our
neighbors
happy
as
well
as
being
able
to
conduct
business.
The
way
we
wanted
to.
So
that's
all.
I
ever
had
to
say
about.
A
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
lubar.
All
right,
I
believe
the
conversation
is
now
with
the
board.
I
am
going
to
propose.
I
I
think
I
do
appreciate
that
the
individual,
the
neighbor
who
came
in
to
speak
with
us.
I
think
this
set
of
circumstances
around
roadside
grill
are
different
enough
from
our
next
item.
A
Then
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
move
through
this
item
begin
with
the
motion
potentially
move
through
relatively
quickly
and
then
move
into
a
broader
conversation
with
ms
brien
in
particular,
from
police
in
context
of
the
application
for
a
new
live
entertainment.
Permit
live,
be,
live
and
coco
beast.
So
with
that,
I'm
going
to
turn
to
mr
defending.
B
Sure
thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
move
that
we
renew
the
use
permit
for
live
entertainment
at
roadside
grill,
subject
to
all
previously
approved
conditions
with
an
administrative
review
in
three
years
march
2025
and
a
county
board
review
in
five
years
march.
2027,
that's
the
county,
manager's
recommendation.
A
B
Well,
I
don't
oh
please.
Would
you
like
to
speak
to
your
motion
just
very
briefly,
two
thoughts
with
respect
to
mr
donohue's
points.
One
is
I
actually
reading
the
conditions?
I
do
think
he
asked
that
the
condition
that
some
of
the
items
be
put
into
conditions
and
I
believe,
actually
reading
that
that
some
of
what
he
requested
is
in
conditions
condition
five
in
particular
and
then
beyond
that.
I
think
the
the
the
comments
of
the
police
track.
So
I'm
comfortable
moving
forward.
A
Thank
you,
and
actually
that
does
remind
me,
I'm
speaking
the
specificity
of
mr
donahue's
comments.
He
had
specifically
mentioned
concerns
about
music
being
turned
up
or
amplified
after
the
hours
expire
at
2
am
miss
brian.
A
Could
you
just
tell
us
is
that
that
would
be,
I
imagine,
an
appropriate
opportunity
for
him
to
call
the
non-emergency
line
to
file
complaint
if
he's
hearing
loud,
music
amplified
music
after
2
a.m
at
3
a.m,
as
he
mentioned
yes,
yep,
okay,
so
we
would
urge
him
to
to
make
use
of
that
and
do
appreciate
him
coming
in
okay,
mr
dorsey,
any
comments.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Just
I'm
happy
to
support
the
motion.
You
know
one
person,
even
though
this
only
generated
one
person
to
bring
their
concerns
to
us.
F
F
I
would
just
encourage
staff
to
make
sure
that
you
know
mr
lubar
is
fully
aware
of
and
in
compliance
with
those
conditions,
because
any
opportun,
any
deviant
deviations
from
those
conditions
is
likely
to
result
in
a
lot
of
community
upset
and
another
thing
that
I
think
is
very
much
informing
this
and
the
next
item
that
we're
here
we'll
hear
things
are
different
than
they
were
before.
F
People
are
home,
more
they're,
impacted
by
things
that
they
may
not
have
been
as
impacted
by
previously,
and
it's
really
incumbent
on
the
roadside,
grill
establishment
to
you
know,
maybe
develop
a
rapport
with
neighbors
and,
and
you
know,
cultivate
those
good
neighbor
relations,
just
understanding
that
with
more
people
outside
because
of
the
pandemic
and
as
will
be
the
case
with
the
weather,
if
they're
not
back
out
and
about
they're,
going
to
be
impacted
by
that
affair
to
a
fair
degree.
So
hopefully
you
will.
F
A
Thank
you
appreciate
that
and,
as
you
noted,
both
perhaps
representing
more
than
one
person
with
that
perspective,
we
also
did
hear
from
neighbors
in
support
of
this
use.
So
thank
you
so
much
without
any
further
discussion.
The
motion
is
before
us
all,
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,.
D
A
Any
opposed
okay
that
carries
unanimously.
Thank
you,
madam
clerk,
would
you
call
our
next
item.
M
A
M
K
Yes,
manager,
cedric
sutherland
is
available
along
with
ms
brien
to
discuss
this
item
and
he'll
have
a
slide
presentation
over
to
you.
Cedric.
AI
Thank
you.
Can
everybody
hear
me
clearly.
AI
All
right
good
evening,
thank
you
good
evening.
My
name
is
cedric
sutherland
with
the
planning
division
with
me.
I
have
samantha
brienne
of
arneson
county
police
department's
restaurant
at
night
right
and
she's
the
restaurant
at
the
county,
the
artisan
county
police
department's
restaurant
nightlife
liaison
this
evening
before
you
have
three
use
permits
at
2854,
wilson,
boulevard,
formerly
with
lowe's
and
wilson.
AI
AI
The
site
is
approximately
ten
thousand
nine
hundred
and
eight
square
feet,
and
it's
comprised
of
a
one-story
commercial
building
previously
operated
as
a
restaurant.
With
the
rooftop
bar
and
outdoor
patio,
the
property
is
owned,
c3
general
commercial
district.
The
use
will
be
retained
as
a
restaurant,
which
is
permitted
by
wright.
AI
The
proposed
live,
entertainment,
dancing
and
outdoor
cafe
are
subject
to
a
special
reception
use.
Permit
the
site
is
previously
operated
again
is
a
restaurant,
which
was
for
whitlow's
on
wilson,
with
use
permits
for
live,
entertainment
and
dancing,
as
well
as
the
outdoor
cafe
along
north
fillmore
street.
AI
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
split
the
building
into
two
restaurant
concepts
and
each
restaurant
will
have
their
own
use
from
it.
That
would
be
be
live
and
cocoa
beans.
The
applicant
initially
proposed
to
operate
the
live,
entertainment
uses
to
1am
monday
through
wednesdays
and
to
2
a.m,
thursday,
to
saturday
and
to
12
a.m.
On
sundays
and
with
their
proposed
live
entertainment,
they're,
proposing
solo
and
group
ensembles,
djs
and
dancing.
AI
Again,
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
split
the
building
into
two
restaurant
concepts.
Cocoa
beans
and
beet
live
the
bee.
Live
restaurant
will
operate
on
the
western
side
of
the
building
at
the
corner
of
wilson
boulevard
north
fillmore
and
will
include
the
outdoor
cafe
with
up
to
48
seats.
Subject
to
the
approval
of
item
c,
the
performance
area
will
be
located
towards
the
front
of
the
building
and
in
the
green,
is
consistent
with
the
previous
whitlow's
location
for
their
performance
area
for
live,
entertainment.
AI
The
cocoa
bees
restaurant
will
occupy
the
eastern
half
of
the
building
and
consists
of
a
outdoor
pass.
Outdoor
patio
section
and
a
rooftop
bar
with
a
small
interior
performance
area
is
highlighted
in
green.
AI
Staff
reviewed
the
hours
of
live
entertainment
for
the
surrounding
establishments.
Ambar
and
buena.
Vita
are
two
establishments
at
the
corner
of
norfolk
in
wilson,
boulevard
they're
under
common
ownership;
and
they
have
live
entertainment
operations
until
12
a.m,
on
weekdays
and
on
weekends,
to
11,
30
a.m
and
sundays,
typically
to
11
p.m.
AI
Wilson
hardware
operates
sundays
to
thursdays,
to
12
30
a.m
and
on
fridays
to
saturdays
to
2
a.m.
Mexico
blues
operates
sunday
to
thursday,
7
00
p.m,
to
7
p.m,
and
also
fridays
and
saturdays
to
12
30
a.m.
AI
With
this,
reviewing
all
the
all
the
times
and
hours
of
cc
live,
entertainment
staff
requested
and
the
applicant
has
agreed
to
reduce
their
hours
slightly,
to
make
it
more
in
line
with
the
proposed
hours
of
operation
of
existing
establishments,
staff
has
proposed.
AI
Additionally
again,
the
applicant
is
proposing
an
outdoor
cafe
within
a
public
right-of-way
for
up
to
48
seats
along
the
north
field.
More
frontage
of
the
building
staff
is
is
proposing
standard
condition,
language
for
our
outdoor
cafes,
which,
which
includes,
for
this
particular
request
up
to
48
seats
and
also
maintaining
a
six
foot
clear.
What
sidewalk
clear
with
in
terms
of
public
engagement,
this
restaurant
falls
within
the
clarendon
courthouse
civic
association
and
they
stated
no
objection
to
this
to
this
use.
AI
The
live
villages,
so
citizens
association,
which
is
directly
across
the
street,
has
no
objection
to
the
outdoor
cafe
but
objects
to
the
proposed
hours
of
operation
and
proposes
sunday
through
thursday.
That
live
entertainment
ceases
at
11
p.m
and
on
fridays,
saturdays
at
excuse
me
friday
and
saturday
12am.
AI
They
also
recommend
the
six
month
review
to
september
2022..
In
addition
received
letters
from
the
public
most
of
the
people
who
spoke
early.
They
object
to
the
proposed
hours
of
operation
with
concerns
of
noise
from
the
establishment
patrons
activities
in
the
name
in
the
neighborhood
after
hours,
and
recommends
the
same
hours
as
proposed
by
the
citizens.
Association.
AI
AI
In
addition
to
the
proposed
conditions,
this
was
most
live
under,
saying
that
with
all
live
entertainment
operations
within
the
current,
and
I
have
an
assignment
working
group
that
we're
requiring
their
participation
with
with
this
working
group.
In
addition,
they
have
agreed
to
participate
in
the
arlington
restaurant
initiative,
which
is
headed
by
the
business
in
the
restaurant
and
nightlife
liaison.
AI
Therefore,
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
all
three
items
subject
to
the
conditions
of
the
staff
report
was
a
county
board
review
in
eight
months
in
november
of
this
year,
which
will
coincide
with
the
scheduled
review
of
clarendon
live
entertainment
items
that
comes
to
the
board
at
that
time.
This
includes
staff
presentation.
AI
A
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
sutherland.
I
know
we
have
ms
brienne
again
with
questions.
I
also
understand
that
we
have
mr
bramson
and
mr
cummings
on
behalf
of
the
applicant.
Is
that
correct.
A
Did
you
want
to
give
some
comments
or
presentation,
or
are
you
available
for
questions
or
both.
AJ
Available
for
questions
I'm
going
to
speak
very
briefly,
nicholas
cummings
with
walsh
colucci
here.
I
think
it's
just
important
to
emphasize
that
while
we
absolutely
understand
and
appreciate
all
the
comments
made
by
the
community
so
far
this
evening.
This
is
a
new
request
for
a
new
location,
with
a
new
use
permit
for
live,
entertainment
and
dancing,
and
I
think
that
I'd
submit
to
the
board
that
mr
branson
would
like
the
opportunity
to
operate
this
establishment
and
deal
with
or
address
potential
issues
when
they
arise.
AJ
If
they
in
fact
do,
and
I
think
that
the
conditions
which
require
you
know,
participation
in
the
neighborhood
group
and
which
call
for
the
review
within
eight
months,
are
you
know
an
effective
tool
to
check
in
on
how
things
are
going
and
to
you
know,
maybe
cut
back
if
necessary
or
address
whatever
it
is.
That
may
come
up
that
is
within
these
controlled
suits
of
remedies,
so
that
I'll
just
say
that
briefly
and
then
mr
branson
and
I
are
here
for
questions.
A
E
So
I
will
begin
with
one
question:
montreal
could
also
move
the
item
just
for
purpose
of
discussion:
fine,
yeah,
okay,
I
will
move
the
item
through
the
purpose
of
discussion.
I
will
add
the
question
on
top
of
that:
okay,
so
the
the
red
comment,
the
I'm
I'm
moving.
The
manager's
recommendation
in
this
case
to
approve
the
use
permit
for
life,
entertainment
and
dancing
and
be
live
capital
b
live
subject.
E
E
Okay,
so,
but
the
first
question
is
the:
I
understand
that
this
is
a
completely
new
operation,
so
it
is
not
related
to
whitlow's
on
wilson,
so
it
does.
Mr
branson
run
any
other
business
here
in
arlington.
What
what
kind
of
experience
do
we
have
with
mr
branson.
AI
To
my
knowledge,
mr
branson
bramson
operates
clarendon
prop
up,
which
was
renewed
by
the
county
board
in
december
of
this
last
year.
In
addition,
I
believe
he
operates
it's
a
lot.
You
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
and
I'm
not
aware
of
any
other
restaurants
that
he
operates
within
the
county.
A
G
A
I
don't
know,
maybe,
if
cphd
has
a
feedback
or
if
ms
brienne
has
feedback
in
terms
of
whether
those
restaurants
have
participated.
For
example,
in
the
arlington
restaurant
initiative,.
T
Miss
brienne
here
just
a
little
context
behind
my
position.
I
am
a
civilian,
I'm,
not
a
uniformed
police
officer,
so
any
law,
any
questions
pertaining
to
laws
or
police
practices.
In
that
way,
I
might
not
be
able
to
answer,
but
we
can
follow
up
with
that
regarding
their
participation
in
the
arlington
restaurant
initiative.
Pamplona
is
accredited
in
the
arlington
restaurant
initiative
and
the
clarendon
ballroom
is
currently
going
through
accreditation
in
or
the
clarendon
pop-up.
T
I'm
sorry
is
going
through
accreditation
in
the
arlington
restaurant
initiative,
they're
on
step
number
one
so
far,
we're
going
on
to
step
two
soon,
but
they
they
participate
in
the
security
trainings.
Almost
every
time
we
have
security,
trainings
and
also
anytime,
that
we
have
restaurant
employee
trainings.
I
send
it
out
to
their
staff,
so
they
can
so
they
can
come
as
well,
and
the
pop-up
has
asked
for
a
training
for
their
establishment
in
the
next
couple
of
months.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
So
the
eight-month
review
is
helpful,
mindful
that
these
are
two
different
establishments
I'm
trying
to.
Maybe
mr
southerland,
you
would
know,
did
these
times
roughly
track
the
the
experience
with
the
prior
occupant
of
this
space.
B
AI
AI
Yes,
I
said
that
originally,
when
the
when
the
previous
establishment
was
approved
in
1995,
they
had
hours
up
to
2
a.m.
AI
In
the
intervening
years,
those
hours
could
control
control
back
due
to
their
due
to
their
due
to
complaints
from
neighbors
their
inability
to
mitigate
sound
from
the
establishment
to
believe
12
a.m,
but
that
came
after
years
and
years
of
trying
to
work
with
them
to
to
remedy
their
their
sound
impacts
on
the
neighborhood.
AI
Additionally,
I
think
that
issue
is
what
preceded
the
clerk's
formation
in
2002,
along
with
other
bars
and
restaurants,
that
were
coming
on
time
online
at
that
time,
and
so
since
then,
you've
seen
a
lot
of
participation
with
the
restaurants
in
the
area.
Previously
the
clerk
held
four
meetings
a
year
several
years
ago.
B
AI
I
believe
that
that
was
2
a.m
originally,
and
then
I
believe
it
became
the
12
a.m.
After
you
know,
years
of
of
conservation
with
the
community
and
the
board,
they
finally
had
the
hours
reduced.
B
B
Mr
dorsey
vice
chairman
dorsey
raised
the
question
of
this
being
a
new
moment
and
the
next
eight
months
being
a
key
time
when
people
are
likely
to
come
out
and
go
out
more
and
just
wondered
if
you
had
any
brief
thoughts
about
both
the
opportunity
and
the
challenge
over
the
next
few
months
as
if
we
continue
the
positive
trend
with
respect
to
covid
seems
like
a
big
moment
for
the
initiative.
T
I
will
say
I
believe
the
next
couple
of
months
coming
up,
especially
with
the
warm
weather,
will
bring
more
patrons
out
to
the
claridin
and
as
well
as
other
nightlife
areas
in
arlington
like
crystal
city,
people
want
to
sit
outside,
they
want
to
be
outside,
they
want
to
go
outside,
which
is
what
we've
seen
in
the
past
as
well.
When
it
comes
to
the
spring
and
summer,
which
I
think
it's
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
train
the
staff
and
get
them
up
to
the
training
you
know
when
covet
hit.
T
It
really
took
a
damper
in
our
training
in
the
arlington
restaurant
initiative
and
the
accreditation
process.
We
went
to
online
training,
but
I
don't
think
it's
as
great
as
in-person
training.
We
have
other
county
departments
that
come
out.
We
have
arlington
addiction,
recovery
initiative
that
gives
narcan
training.
We
have.
T
We
have
the
virginia
hospital
center
and
the
fire
department
that
comes
out
and
gives
hands-to-heart
cpr
training,
and
we
also
have
victim
witness
of
the
commonwealth
attorney's
office
that
comes
out
and
gives
bar
bystander
training,
as
well
as
other
training
that
our
police
department
give
out.
So,
with
the
upcoming
spring
and
summer
months,
I
perceive
that
we'll
be
doing
a
lot
more
training,
but
we'll
also
see
more
patrons
coming
out
to
the
area.
B
Great
thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
allowing
me
just
ask
to
make
that
point,
and
it's
just
super
important.
What
you're
doing,
because
domestic
violence,
folks
who
are
have
had
too
much
you
know
just
grateful
for
what
you're
doing,
and
I
think
I'll
associate
myself
with
the
point
made
by
mr
cummings
in
the
next
eight
months.
Being
critical
thanks
thanks.
I
Ms
garvey,
thank
you.
If
I
have
one
quick
question,
I
think,
and
one
a
little
bit
longer,
if
I
might
first
question
of,
for
I
guess
our
staff,
why
not
six
months
review
rather
than
nine
or
even
seven,
I
mean
that'll,
get
us
through
the
summer.
Basically
we'll
we
should
have
a
pretty
good
idea
what's
going
on.
Is
there
a
reason
it
needs
to
go
longer
and
we
don't
want
to
do
it
sooner.
AI
Typically,
with
the
clegg
review,
because
there's
so
much
about,
I
think
16
establishments,
you
typically
start
our
review
of
that
those
items
late
august
early
september
to
give
county
staff
time,
especially
code
enforcement
and
zoning
enforcement,
to
go
out
and
do
those
numbers
of
inspections,
because
that's
a
lot
for
them
to
do
at
one
time.
Typically,
those
happen
within
within
a
month
of
a
county
board
hearings.
So
we
like
to
spread
that
out.
So
once
we
start,
I
start
doing
my
outreach
to
the
police.
I
So
it
sounds
like
what
you
need
to
do
is
is
spread
them
out.
You
could
put
this
more
to
the
front
and
the
reason
I
the
reason
I
could
give
for
doing
that
is
that
it's
new,
we
kind
of
know.
What's
you
know,
there's
some
history
with
the
other
ones,
but
this
is
a
new
establishment.
Starting
is
is
the
issue
that
you
just
need
to
spread
it
out,
and
somebody
needs
to
go
first
and
somebody
needs
to
go
later.
Is
that
correct.
AI
No,
we
typically
regroup
review
them
as
a
group
and
then
what
will
happen
is
we'll
hear
this
in
september
and
then
it'll
come
back
in
in
november,
because
this
is
a
part
of
the
clarendon
live
entertainment
group,
so
you
know
to
you
know,
to
use
staff
sounds
judiciously
that
you
know.
Staff
daughter
was
wise
that
we
just
keep
it
at
the
november
meeting
and
it
allows
us
time,
especially
in
the
lead
up
to
the
review.
If
we
hear
something
back
from
the
police,
we
can
start
to
address
it.
AI
Additionally,
we
have
our
cleric
meetings
twice
a
year
once
in
may
and
typically
in
november.
So
we
have
time
to
address
those
items.
I
Okay,
I'm
still
kind
of
wondering,
if
maybe
we
might
move
it
up
but
and
then
the
other
question
is
for
mr
sutherland
or
maybe
our
probably
mr
sutherland
for
you.
Have
you
looked
at
the
acoustics
of
that
building?
You
know
one
other
thing
I
was
looking
at
the
picture.
I'm
somewhat
familiar
familiar
with
that
location
and
I'm
familiar.
Noise
is
a
funny
thing
and
it
really
could
be.
I
AI
From
my
knowledge,
the
applicant
is
using
some
of
the
same
sound
attenuation
measures
that
whitlows
has
had
and
and
continuing
in
also
enhancing
some
of
those
measures,
including
putting
the
curtain
up
in
front
of
the
large
windows
to
to
block
sound
from
coming
out.
Additionally,
all
of
the
the
music
from
the
live
entertainment
is
contained
within
the
building
in
terms
of
one
one
of
the
citizens.
AI
Point
to
sound
reflecting
back
off
of
the
neighboring
building.
I
I
don't
think
that
would
happen
from
things
coming
inside
the
building.
However,
they
do
operate
the
outdoor
patio
and
also
a
rooftop
which
they
can
play
music
and
sound
up
there,
not
piped
in
from
the
live
entertainment,
but
they
can
play
music
and
sound
from
like
an
ipod
or
whatever
device
that
they
have
and
that
sound
may
bounce
off
that
wall
and
come
back
into
the
neighborhood.
M
AI
They
have
and
they
will
have
to
abide
by
the
noise
ordinance.
A
A
couple
questions
from
ms
brianna
just
talk
about
the
arlington
restaurant
initiative.
For
a
moment
I
really
appreciate
everyone
who
came
in
to
speak
tonight,
and
I
boy
was
that,
like
a
a
blast
from
the
disappointing
past,
to
hear
those
experiences
about
clarendon,
because
that
was
the
the
the
entire
genesis
of
the
arlington
restaurant
initiative
was
everything
that
you
all
are
describing
so
compellingly
as
neighbors.
I
mean
that
situation,
I
think,
is
one
of
you
very
compellingly.
Put.
A
It
had
gotten
completely
out
of
hand
by
2015
2016.,
the
description
straight
from
I
mean
this
this
program
now
the
arlington
restaurant
initiative
has
been
evaluated,
has
been
held
up
as
a
model
by
the
by
doj
and
the
cops
office.
George
mason
university
has
studied
it.
It
has
been
analyzed
out
of
the
university
of
arizona,
a
couple
of
other
labs
all
as
sort
of
a
best
practice,
because
it
has
been
so
effective.
A
At
least
we
thought
at
actually
reducing
the
the
impact,
especially
on
the
quality
of
life,
of
not
only
noise,
but
but
all
of
those
things
that
people
described,
I
mean
I'm
just
looking
at
the
the
analysis
that
was
published
by
the
the
social
decision
analytics
laboratory
right,
which
we've
got
on
the
ri
website.
You
know
you
can
just
sort
of
see
the
way
the
impact
of
the
increased
police
presence,
the
relationship
building
with
restaurants.
A
You
know,
for
example,
aggravated
assaults
down
by
a
third
in
just
two
years,
drunken
public's
down,
you
know
by
a
half,
really
disorderly
conduct
coming
down
from
a
high
of
41
incidents
in
a
year
to
just
six
in
2017..
So
you
know,
I
think
I
had
anyway
looked
to,
and
particularly
from
my
my
lens
working
on
her
interagency
response
to
sexual
assault.
Looked
to
ari
as
a
real
model
that
was
actually
making
a
difference
for
folks
in
clarendon,
and
so
it
is.
A
It
is
heartbreaking
to
hear
from
from
neighbors
that
you
know
the
situation
that
they
described
tonight
sounded
like
some
of
the
worst
of
2015
2016.
So
I
wondered
if
ms
brienne
could
just
talk
to
us
a
little
more
about.
You
know
ongoing
evaluations
of
the
ari
program.
A
Whether
acpd
is
seeing
an
uptick
in
these
incidents
again,
and
you
know
what?
What?
If
anything,
are
we
adjusting
ara
outreach
to
to
do
to
address
those?
I
know
that's
a
lot
to
ask
you
you.
A
You
gave
us
a
pretty
good
caveat
the
at
the
outset
that
you
may
not
be
the
the
expert
on
all
things
police
operations,
but
any
any
insights
you
can
shed
for
us
about
what's
going
on
either
in
terms
of
the
data
you
all
do,
collect
or
or
adjusting
the
approaches
of
ari
would
be
really
helpful.
To
this
conversation,
I
think.
T
No
problem,
so
I
will
say:
kovid
really
put
a
setback
to
everything
that
we
created
in
the
arlington
restaurant
initiative.
So
for
how
long
were
we
shut
down?
How
long
were
we
not
really
operating
and
then
it
became
how
to
operate
in
certain
situations,
with
certain
regulations
and
whatnot
now
we're
trying
to
operate
in
a
way
that
we
did
before,
but
I
will
say,
we've
seen
more
patrons
coming
into
claridin.
T
We
were
opened
before
another,
a
couple
other
jurisdictions
in
our
area,
so
we've
seen
a
lot
more
patrons
coming
into
claridin,
but
we're
also
working
very
hard
to
stop
the
stuff
that
is
happening.
I
will
say
we
are
on
trend
with
our
2019
numbers,
pre
pre-covered
2019
numbers
right
now
we
are
still
doing
all
of
our
training.
I
help
run
and
manage
the
nightlife
detail
of
officers
that
are
out
there.
T
The
officers
that
are
working
in
this
detail
are
trained
in
relationship
based
policing
and
how
to
create
relationships
with
restaurant
owners,
staff
and
security.
So
we've
also
curtailed
some
of
our
training
to
include
the
narcan
to
include
de-escalation,
more
focused
on
de-escalation
and
over-intoxication
during
covid.
We
focus
more,
like
I
said,
on
online
training
having
staff
take
online
training
but,
like
I
said,
I
feel
like
it
comes
better
across
as
in
person
so
now
we're
starting
to
ramp
up
our
in-person
trainings.
T
We
have
had
talks
about
creating,
maybe
like
big,
quarterly
trainings,
where
we
can
get
all
the
staff
together
in
one
quarter
to
train
which
might
make
it
easier
on
our
county
agencies
as
well,
but
regarding
the
nightlife
detail,
the
officers
that
work,
our
nightlife
detail,
like
I
said,
they're
trained
on
relationship
based
policing
and
I
have
the
same
officers
most
every
week
that
sign
up
for
this
detail.
So
I
try
and
place
them
in
the
same
areas.
T
T
Those
officers
like
I
said,
work
continuously
throughout
the
year,
so
they
know
how
the
establishments
act
and
they
know
how
the
establishments
intervene
in
situations
and
how
they
can
intervene.
The
reason
that
we
have
our
officers
there
are
to
intervene
at
faster
rates,
so
violence
doesn't
occur
as
much.
A
If
that
makes
sense,
that
was
really
helpful.
Thank
you,
and
so,
when
this
spot
was
whitlow's
was
that
included
in
the
detail
of
the
officers
you
described.
I
think
that
sort
of
ladder,
pair
or
trio
of
restaurants
was
wilson
hardware.
The
the
three-tiered.
T
Yep,
so
the
officers
that
are
stationed
at
wilson,
hardware,
ttt
and
ambar
will
also
be
attributed
to
the
new.
The
new
live
entertainment
venues
be
be
live
and
coco
bees.
T
Usually
when
a
new
venue
pops
up
or
gets
their
permits,
we
try
and
ship
the
officers
in
front
of
that
venue
for
a
little
bit.
Okay,
just
to
show,
presents
in
front
of
the
new
venue
and
to
be
there
for
staff.
So
staff
know
that
they're
there
patrons
know
that
they're
there
as
well.
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
that
was
incredibly
helpful
before
I
yield
to
mr
dorsey,
mr
branson.
I
actually
think
it'd
be
really
helpful
if
you
could
just
take
a
moment
and
describe
your
previous
involvement
with
the
arlington
restaurant
initiative.
You
know
as
tell
us
a
little
more
about
where
you
are
in
staffing.
A
Up
for
coco
bees
and
bee
live
the
expectations
you'll
be
putting
on
your
staff
to
participate
in
these
types
of
trainings
and
any
other
insights
you
can
shed
for
us
about
the
relationship
you
already
have
or
will
have
with
acpd.
I
think
that
could
be
really
instructive
for
us
to
learn
about.
AK
Yeah
absolutely
so
we
were
actually
one
of
the
first
pilot
programs,
or
at
least
when
we
were
getting
started.
So
we
were
kind
of
the
guinea
pigs
in
this
program
over
at
pamplona.
So
I'm
you
know
familiar
with
that
and
as
sam
mentioned
earlier,
we
are,
you
know
our
security
attends.
You
know
all
those
all
those
security
meetings,
the
live,
entertainment
ones
from
my
other
establishments.
AK
So
in
terms
of
staffing
and
so
forth
I
mean
we're
we're
still,
you
know
getting
there,
we
we,
we
have,
I
think,
very
solid
security
teams
that
that
communicate.
Well,
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
just
the
most
important
thing
with
the
police
department
is
just
communicating
and
letting
them
know
when
when
things
are
when
we
need
their
help,
I
know
a
lot
of
establishments
there's
a
lot
of
criticism
when
establishments
call
the
police
department,
but
really
it's
it's.
AK
You
know,
we've
been
told
to
call
them
and
almost
on
any
occasion
and
really
and
they've
been
great
and
supportive
on
that,
and
that's
just
helpful.
So
I
think
it's
it's
great,
especially
when
we
have
a
new
venue
and
to
allow
our
for
one
for
our
staff
to
know
the
police
is
there
to
to
really
help
us
in
in
any
situation
as
well
as
to
know
that
patrons
know
that
the
police
have
a
presence
there.
So
I
mean
I
don't
expect
be
live
to
to
necessarily
be
this.
AK
This
rowdy
bar
that
everyone's
kind
of
making
us
out
to
be
or-
and
I
don't
blame
anyone-
I
think
it's
kind
of
just
the
way
whitlow's.
You
know,
I
think
everyone's
still
thinking
that
this
whitlow's
establishment
and
you
know
we're
we're
not
as
even
though
we're
the
same
size
as
whitlow's,
we're
two
separate
concepts.
AK
So
if
you
have
to
think
about
it's
two
separate
restaurants
and
bars,
you
know
and
and
we're
one
thing
I
didn't
want
to
bring
up
is-
is
the
fact
that
you
know
we
we
are
taking
steps
to
minimize
the
mitigate
the
music
really.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we've
done
aside
from
adding
you
know
double
sided
curtains
to
for
soundproofing,
we've
added
panels,
soundproofing
our
dampening
panels
throughout
the
entire
ceiling.
AK
So
when
the
sound
balances
it
kind
of
just
gets
trapped
in
the
ceiling
and
doesn't
skyrocket
and
go
into,
you
know
bounce
off
and
go
out
into
the
neighborhood.
All
the
speakers
are
facing
away
from
the
windows
into
the
venue
into
the
sound
dampening
panels
on
the
ceiling
the
curtain
was,
you
know,
just
extra
precaution
that
we
took
we're
taking
we're
putting
some
more
panels
into
the
vestibule.
AK
So
you
know
when
people
open
the
door,
you
know
the
sound's
not
going
straight
out
like
other
venues,
so
there
is
that
extra
layer
of
protection,
and
in
addition
to
that,
you
know
we
are,
you,
know,
called
be
live
and
we
do
have
live
music,
but
we
are
open.
You
know,
for
we
are
going
to
plan
on
opening
for
lunch,
brunch
happy
hour
and
a
dinner
crowd,
and
then
music
is
as
a
part
of
our
experience,
but
it's
not
constant
and
it's
not
all
the
time.
AK
So
you
know
we'll
be
open
more
hours
and
we're
actually
playing
music.
So
I
kind
of
want
to
give
just
a
reassurance
to
the
community
that
it's
not
we're,
not
just
a
you
know
a
nightlife
place
that
we're
opening
up
at
10
o'clock
at
night.
You
know
we're.
We
want
to
we're
open,
you
know
throughout
the
day,
and
we
want
to
be
this
neighborhood
establishment.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
I
think
I'm
just
ready
to
make
a
gluting
comment,
maybe
even
a
question
there,
but
we'll
see
you
know.
I
appreciate
them
and
I'm
happy
to
support
the
motion.
The
operators
of
this
establishment
have
a
right
to
be
evaluated
on
their
own
merits,
not
based
on
the
sins
of
a
prior
owner
or
their
prior
perceptions
of
a
community.
So
I'm
happy
to
give
them
that
chance,
but
certainly
there
is
the
benefit
of
knowing
the
history
that
the
applicant
is
aware
of.
F
So
hopefully
they
will
be
proactive
in
addressing
all
potential
issues
and
known
pain
points
that
exist
within
the
community.
I
do
have
some
larger
concerns,
though,
about
this
effort
and
not
really
with
ari.
I
think
you
know
all
the
things
that
we
heard
from
neighbors
can
also
stand
as
truth,
with
ari
being
an
overall,
very
successful
program
we
talked
about
before
you
know.
F
The
the
period
of
the
initial
pandemic
that
lasted
well
over
a
year
provided
a
respite
for
a
lot
of
people,
from
quality
of
life
issues
and
even
as
things
emerge,
and
even
if
they
only
go
back
to
what
they
were
before,
that
can
be
a
huge
shock
to
people
who
went
a
year
plus
with
relative
peace
and
solitude.
So
all
those
things
can
be
true.
It
requires
that
everybody
bring
to
it
a
level
of
care
and
sensitivity
and
up
their
game
and
and
the
responsibility
also
falls
on
us.
F
So,
mr
schwartz,
I
guess
I
would
somewhat
direct
a
request
to
you
that
that
we
figure
out
how
to
work
with
chief
pen
on
staffing
and
coordination,
just
to
really
make
sure
we're
truly
being
responsive
here,
especially
as
we're
re-emerging.
You
know
one
of
the
reports
that
we
heard
from
the
residents
which
pains
me
given
our
earlier
manager
report,
which
outline
helpfully
what
to
do.
If
you
have
violations
of,
for
example,
noise.
Well,
some
people
seem
to
suggest
they
did
that
and
we're
being
told
yeah
it
sucks.
F
F
Again,
don't
know
if
that's
a
perspective
that
I
misinterpreted
or
what,
but
we
just
want
to
make
sure
as
we're
going
to
this
period,
that
we
are
able
to
be
responsive
to
the
greatest
extent
that
we
can,
and
I
hope
that
the
clegg
likewise
is
able
to
really
reconvene
on
a
dime
and
make
sure
they're
following
this
stuff
in
real
time,
and
that
we
have
the
commitment
of
the
applicant
to
doing
what's
ever
necessary
to
not
only
be
a
good
neighbor
but
to
to
address
anything
any
things
that
may
be
identified
by
neighbors
that
they
can
reasonably
contribute
to
improving
and
then.
F
Lastly,
I
will
say
that
I
know
that
when
we
were
having
a
real
difficult
time
with
staffing
in
clarendon,
we
prevailed
upon
the
virginia
state
police
to
assist
us.
Hopefully
those
options
are
on
the
table
as
well,
because
I
do
have
a
fear
that
this
summer
is
going
to
be
interesting.
Thank
you.
E
Yeah
well,
we'll
also
have
some
closing
remarks
on
this.
I,
besides
the
I
mean
the
arlington
restaurant
initiative
is
one
of
the
best
innovations
that
we've
had.
This
really
made
clarendon
a
very,
very
viable,
also
very
high
value
place,
because
it
is
coordinated
through
the
the
restaurant
initiative.
E
There
is
also
another
piece
of
that
which
is
the
clarinet
life
entertainment
working
group
to
which
the
applicant
is
committing
to
participate,
and
I
would
really
like
to
see
that
working
group
you
know
getting
up
and-
and
you
know
growing
to
the
task
of
this
resetting
of
clarendon,
and
now
that
you
know
at
least
the
the
most
problematic
part
of
the
pandemic
seems
to
be
behind
us.
E
E
I
I
wouldn't
be
reluctant.
I
mean
I
wouldn't
have
anything
against
the
six
month
review,
but
I
think
eight
months
is
appropriate.
This
is
a
larger
operation,
it's
a
full
season
and
we
will
have
a
complete,
a
complete
image
picture
of
how
it
went
and
I'm
sure
that
the
neighborhood
will
be
looking
at
that
also
very,
very,
very
carefully
so
and.
A
I
Sure,
thank
you
well
I'll
support
the
motion.
I
am
I'm
going
to
take
mr
wegman
up
on
his
invitation
to
come
and
listen.
In
fact,
I
think
I'll
have
my
my
aide.
Just
I
think
I
think
I
saw
everybody
was
still
listening,
reach
out
and
and
I'm
gonna
try
and
go.
I
think
early
in
the
season
and
late
and
actually
do
twice
twice
to
sort
of
see
how
it
goes
this.
I
You
know
what
we
heard
from
the
neighbors
really
was
sort
of
disturbing,
and
I
think
mr
dorsey,
I
wasn't
thinking
it,
was
interesting.
I'm
thinking
it
was
sort
of
a
test
same
idea.
I
I
think
it
is
going
to
be
interesting
and
a
bit
of
a
test
how
we
do
over
these.
You
know
these
next
warm
months
when
people
are
out,
cove
is
not
happening
and
how
people
are
behaving
so
anyway
that
I'm
gonna.
I
I
will
do
that
and
then
we'll
see
where
we
are
in
november
and
I'll
be
looking
not
just
at
this.
This
place
these
these
two
new
establishments
and
it
does
sound
like
the
the
owners,
are
really.
You
know
meaning
well
they're,
going
to
be
trying
to
to
take
care
of
issues
and
mitigate
any
problems.
I
I
appreciate
that,
but
also
just
sort
of
look
at
the
general
scene
again
and
kind
of
seeing
where
we
are
so.
I
will
commit
to
doing
that
and
I
will
approve
the
motion.
B
Man
of
chair
appreciate
colleagues,
comments.
In
particular,
I
appreciated
this
sort
of
drilling
into
data
that
you
exchanged
with
ms
with
ms
preem
and
then
also
the
the
comments
of
mr
branson,
and
really
appreciate
each
of
the
five
neighbors
who
came
franklin
and
fillmore
will
be
part
of
my
follow-up
on
a
saturday
and
mindful
of
each
of
the
neighbors
comments.
Take
them
seriously,
and
this
is
a
like
I
was
saying
earlier.
B
I
do
feel
this
is
a
big
moment
to
make
sure
that
we
transition
back
with
thinking
about
2019
and
not
2015
and
16..
So
would
that
all
support
the
motion.
A
Thank
you
so
much.
Unless
there
is
any
further
discussion,
I
believe
we
are
ready
for
a
vote
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye,
aye
aye
any
opposed.
Okay
that
carries
unanimously.
We
look
forward
to
having
what
we
hope
is
a
positive
look
back
in
eight
months.
If
it
is
not
a
positive
set
of
circumstances,
I
imagine
we
will
be
hearing
from
neighbors
and
in
discussion
with
you
all
sooner.
Thank
you
so
much,
madam
clerk.
Is
there
any?
Are
there
any
other
items
to
come
before
the
board
this
evening?