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A
A
Okay,
so
yes,
the
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
replacement
shutters
for
the
Sears
house
at
342,
121st
Ave.
They
have
had
louvered
shutters.
So
this
is
the
louvered
shutters
when
the
applicant
purchased
the
property
they're
rounded.
This
is
the
original
Sears
image,
so
you
can
see
it
did
have
shutters
and
they
were
louvered
and
the
applicant
is
required
raised
panel.
A
Okay,
well,
it's
pretty
straightforward.
They
also
people
shutters
on
the
windows
that
have
historically
had
Chargers.
B
B
Well,
I
mean:
does
anybody
have
a
problem
with
this
I?
Don't
I
mean
it's
I,
even
though
the
original
did
have
you
know,
louvered
shutters
that
Sears
houses,
you
often
had
options
for
various
things
and
it
could
have
been.
You
know,
delivered
either
way.
I,
don't
I,
don't
have
a
particular
problem
with
this.
C
C
D
A
Faux
shutters,
oh
yeah,
so
I
think
it's
because
the
Louvre
Treasures
of
Germany
used
when
you
want
airflow,
but
because
we
generally
use
air
conditioning
now
it
now
increases
the
amount
of
sunlight
that
comes
through
without
giving
you
the
event.
So
the
flat
panel
allows
yeah.
C
C
C
B
A
Think
it's
actually
your
microphone
because
it's
reverberating
through
here
just
because
we
had
to
remove
these
sound
interference,
because
the
last
recording
was
cutting
out
when
people
were
quiet.
So
we
are
trying
the
meeting
today
without
the
sound
interference.
Software,
so
I
think
try
muting
yourself
and
see.
B
A
A
Perfect:
okay,
now
we'll
see
you
Lori.
E
Yeah
I
guess
I
guess
I
wouldn't
have
a
look.
I
mean
I,
mean
I,
feel.
D
E
D
E
A
C
C
C
E
F
D
B
Yes,
yeah
and
I'm
fine
with
that
Omari
the
if
it's
I
mean
I.
You
know
the
thing
Andy
makes
makes
good
points
and
you
know
maybe
Serena
you
can
reach
out
to
them
and
see
whether
they'd
be
willing
to
do
louvered
shutters
I.
Don't.
A
A
Okay,
all
right
discussion
agenda.
It
is.
The
second
item
is
a
roof
replacement
for
Barcroft
Community
Hall,
so
they
would
like
to
go
from
the
three
tab:
shingle
roof
to
architectural
shingle.
This.
You
don't
see
this
very
often
because
in
Maywood
we
have
put
it
on
the
acua
list
of
things
that
stop
can
approve,
because
it's
a
fairly
standard
approval.
A
However,
Barcroft
was
designated
before
we
typically
create
a
design
guidelines
and
therefore
they
don't
have
design
guidelines
and
have
to
come
to
change.
I.
Believe
some
representatives
for
the
project
are
on
the
line.
G
F
C
A
Apologies,
so
Mr
rental
was
just
saying
that
he
thinks
that
this
does.
The
shingle
that
you
have
selected
is
more
representative
of,
say
a
cedar
shingle,
but
also
realizes
that
the
three-dimensional
nature
of
the
architectural
shingle
will
add
some
change
to
the
way
that
the
building
is
perceived
from
the
right-of-way.
E
Yeah
I
mean
I,
mean
I,
I
would
agree
with
Andy's
take
on
it,
but
but
I
think
sort
of
I.
Think
that's
that,
though
I
think
I'd
be
more
inclined
to
sort
of
sort
of
approve.
This
proposal,
as
as
represented
I,
mean
I,
think
the
Annie's
correct
I
also
think
that
this
is
maybe
more
due
to
this
I.
Think
in
this
case,
I
think
the
more
modern
material
probably
makes
sense
for
the
roof,
but
that's
kind
of
my
my
two
cents
on
it.
B
Yeah
that
this
this
is
Robert
the
this
is
one
of
those
conundrums,
because
Andy's
absolutely
right
that
this
this
product
was
the
you
know
these
architectural
shingles
were
not
available
in
you
know
back
then,
and
so
there's
a
thinner
look
to
the
roof.
B
It's
more,
it's
more
like
a
sh
of
a
shape
than
a
texture,
but
although
we
don't
review,
color
I
think
we
can
say
something
about
whether
like,
for
instance,
if
you
look
at
the
difference
between
the
birch
wood
and
the
Fox,
Hollow
gray,
they're,
basically
the
same
color
except
one
of
them
has
the
the
shading
that
emphasizes
the
that
emphasizes.
The
the
shadow
line
and
the
other
one
is
is
more
flat
kind
of
like
the
white.
B
It's
just
a
flat
and
I
I
would
think
you
know
that
if
you
do
a
color
that
does
not
have
the
that
does
not
have
the
shadow
line
that
it
that
it's
sort
of
a
compromise
between
the
two,
because
the
other
advantage
of
the
architectural
shingles
is
I,
think
you
can
generally
get
a
a
better
warranty,
a
longer
warranty,
they're
they're
generally,
it's
it's
generally
a
a
longer.
B
You
know
service
roof,
which
I'm
sure
is
something
that's
of
concern,
so
I
would
be
okay
with
this
as
long
as
we're
picking
something
that
doesn't
have
a
shadow
line,
I
don't
know
Andy.
What
do
you
think
about
that?.
C
G
Well,
we
were,
we
haven't
yet
entered
into
a
contract
with
with
the
roofer,
but
because
it's
a
green
roof.
Now
we
were
thinking
of
a
hunter
green
yeah
that.
G
B
It
does
because
the
way,
the
way
that
they
make
it
they
actually
you
can
see
at
the
top
half
of
this
of
the
of
the
the
shingles
that
are
that
recede
is,
is
actually
a
darker
color.
They
they
actually
shade
the
the
shingle.
You
can
see
it
really
well
in
the
Hickory.
That's
right
next
to
it
where
they
there's.
B
They
literally
change
the
color
as
it
goes
up,
whereas
if
you
look
at
something
like
white
or
Fox,
Hollow
gray,
they
don't
do
that
and
and
so
I'm
just
thinking
you
know,
unfortunately,
the
green
ones,
don't
the
green
has
that
I,
don't
know
why
they
did
it
with
a
heavy
Shadow
line
for
the
hunter
green,
because
that's
nothing,
there's
no
historical!
It
I
mean
there's
no
shingles
that
were
tended
to
be
green
back
color
I
mean
it
was.
B
That
was
usually
a
that
was
usually
an
asphalt,
shingle
thing
which
usually
were
much
flatter.
So
I
don't
know,
but-
and
so
it's
it's
green
now.
Yes,.
H
Yes,
it's
green
now
and
I
was
going
to
ask.
Is
there
anything
in
the
Maywood
guidelines
that
that
talks
about
Shadow
lines
or
anything
like
that.
A
Lines
about
Shadow
lines,
but
they
are
those
design.
Guidelines
were
developed
for
multi-property
District,
where
there
were
many
many
Replacements
of
roofs
and
roofs
are
not
character,
defining
to
the
entire
neighborhood
as
a
whole.
A
We
analyzed
historic
properties
Case
by
case,
and
because
this
is
a
single
structure,
we
have
to
analyze
it
and
the
way
it
impacts
people
from
the
right
of
way
differently
than
we
should
for
residences
in
particular,
because
we're
talking
about
residents
and
some
of
which
had
tin
roofs
and
some
of
which
had
shingle
asphalt,
shrinkle,
Cedar,
Shake,
yeah,.
H
H
.,
my
only
reason
for
raising
that
is
that
our
building
was
built
in
1908.
It
had
cedar
shingles
Cedar
Shakes
rather
for
the
original
roof,
so
it
had
a
texture
but
somewhere
along
the
way.
The
green
shingle
became
part
of
the
identification
of
the
building.
For
those
of
us
who've
been
around
for
only
50
years,
or
so
you
know,
it
seems
like
like
green,
is
what
we
would
expect
to
keep
putting
on
there.
Okay,
if
we
have
to
do
something
completely
different,
we
will
well.
B
B
If
we
found
one,
if
there
was
one
that
that
didn't
you
know,
that
was
green,
that
didn't
have
the
shading.
Would
you
be
okay
with
that?
B
We're
not
opposed
to
the
green
and
and
we
don't
regulate
color
anyway,
so
we
can't
stop.
You
know
if
you
want
it
to
be
green,
that,
but
we
we
can
say
something
about
the
shading
and
and
but
it's
interesting
that
you
say
that
the
original
route
was
she.
It
was
cedar
shingles,
because
that
would
indicate
that
that
texture
was
there
so
that
that's
that's
something
to
to
think
about
it.
B
Just
it
just
seems
weird
to
have
this,
although
I
think
they
sometimes
did
paint
shingles,
green
I've
I've
seen
that
it's
not
common,
but
so
I,
don't
know
what
what
does
everybody
else
think
about
this?
It's
I'm.
E
E
D
E
K
A
So
this
is
and
that
all
this
image
I
could
get.
Oh
with
the
machine.
B
And
and
if
I
can
the
the
other
thing
is
that
even
if
you
do
an
architectural
shingle,
it
still
has
a
shadow
line.
I
mean
it's
from
the
Sun
I
think
a
natural
shadowing,
so
there
will
be
texture
to
it,
so
I
I
can
we
can
we
look
into
whether
there
there
is
a
manufacturer
that
that
that
offers
the
the
green
without
the
you
know,
without
the
added
shadow.
H
B
H
Yeah
he
uses
GAF
yeah
and
they're
good
shingles,
but
there
you,
the
other.
The
competitors
are
good,
shingles
too.
If
we
have
to,
we
can
we're
looking
for
something
else.
B
Is
that
just
is
that
just
because
he
typically
uses
GIF?
Does
he
never
use
anybody
else's
shingles?
Because
if
you're,
if
you're,
if
you're
bidding
a
a
job,
usually
you
have
to
bid
whatever
you
know,
whatever's
been
specified.
B
H
Is
a
GAF
certified,
installer,
okay,
I
think
the
you
know
he
can
use
CertainTeed
or
any
of
the
others,
but
he
may
not
be.
We
may
not
qualify
for
as
as
long
a
warranty
right
if
he,
if
he
installs
somebody
else's
shingles
and
I,
think
we
get
an
extension
of
the
warranty
if
he
solves
GAF,
because
he
is
GAF
certified
right.
G
G
What
I,
I
don't
know
in
looking
at
I
mean
again
it's
hard
to
tell
from
the
paper
here
we
could
ask
for
samples
but
visually.
The
Slate
is
a
greenish
tinge
on
here,
the
one
in
the
lower
kind
of
the
lower
left.
It
may
actually
appear
gray.
You
know
when
you
actually
get
a
sample,
but
we
could
ask
him
for.
B
Samples
I
have
a
feeling
that
it
that
it's
just
the
photo
I
mean
just
from
the
game,
because
yeah
I
had
that
same
thought,
but
then
I
think
that's
just
a
darker
like
a
well
I.
Don't
know
it
might
be
worth
asking,
because
if
it
has
a
real
green
ish
tint
to
it,
because
there's
the
oyster
gray
and
the
pewter
gray
are
definitely
different.
You
know
they're,
definitely
gray.
The
charcoal
is
definitely
gray
so
I,
don't
know
it
might
be
worth
at
least
at
least
asking
the
question:
I
mean:
okay,
okay!
B
A
So
it
sounds
like
people
don't
object
to
the
idea
of
architectural
shingles.
There
is
some
concern
that
the
color
choice
that
make
it
more
or
less
apparent,
so
we
could
ask
for
changes
before
next
week
or
we
could
send
it
to
the
hlav,
as
is.
C
E
D
E
B
F
B
Know
I'd
say
it
in
person
and
say:
oh
that
that's
fine,
so
it
might
be
worth
to
see
the
the
hunter
green
in
you
know.
In
a
in
a
sample
foreign.
A
H
D
A
Item
number
three:
so
this
is
the
request
to
change,
citing
and
also
replace
windows,
same
kind
and
get
replacement
doors
after
a
flyer.
So
this
house,
36
or
500
seconds
sorry
suffered
an
electrical
fire
and
there
was
some
damage.
As
you
can
see,
there
was
fire
damage
and
the
windows
group
was
about.
It
has
been
closed
for
a
while
and
the
is
owned
by
the
pet
guards
and
it's
been
managed
by
a
contractor.
A
He
has
thus
far
removed
over
the
siding
and
except
for
the
yes,
the
fish
scale
up
here
has
been
retained,
and
so
these
are
older
photos
from
drink
would
work,
but,
as
you
can
see,
the
fire
damage
and.
D
A
Rd
blank,
then
we
want
to
do
the
they
would
lap
it
to
four
inches,
which
is
the
smallest
lap.
They
can
get.
A
Windows
which
will
be
inclined
wooden
windows
and
I,
can
also
I
didn't
attach
it
yet.
But
we
do
have
photographs
person
said
sure,
because
it's
going
to
be
it's
going
to
be
a
retroactive
ceiling,
Community
doors
they
we
don't
have
an
image
of
the
replacement
door.
A
Because
the
I
don't
have
those
materials
but
I,
think
Mr
James
is
on
the
line
and
you
can
walk
us
through
Mr
Jones,
sorry,
I
know
it's
John,
James
or
James.
M
Actually,
there
was
a
fire
there
and
we
are
replacing
the
siding
and
we
want
to
put
Hardy
there.
I
left
the
in
the
Gable.
It
has
the
little
Circle
things
we
left
a
Gable
because
I
cannot
buy
that
material
in
the
Hardy
and
that
part
was
not
burnt
and
not
smoke
damage.
So
I
could
leave
that.
F
M
Half
of
the
house
was
burnt
from
the
wood,
so
that's
why
we
wanted
to
put
the
Hardy
back.
You
can
still
buy
the
wood.
The
problem
is,
the
wood
is
very
expensive
to
get
and
you
have
to
get
it
made
and
it
takes
months
to
get
it.
B
B
M
D
M
Yeah
I
don't
have
the
doors
yet
the
wood,
the
the
front
door
takes
four
months
to
get
made
and
the
back
doors
take
two
months.
B
I
guess
the
question
for
you
Serena
this
is
a
procedural
question
is,
is:
is
the
do
the
guideline
specify
that
the
that
the
Hardy
plank
at
four
branches
would
be
an
in-kind
replacement
for
for
this?
This
double
whatever
I
forget
what
you
call
it
now,
the
you
know
this
double
molded,
because
I'm
assuming
that's
that
that
has
a
an
apparent
Shadow
line
of
about
three
inches
or
so
it's
very
it's
very
small,
because
it's
it's.
B
A
A
A
Under
certain
circumstances,
you
may
prevent
it
smooth
or
non-historic
structures
in
construction,
new
additions
to
historic
buildings.
So
that's
why
you
saw
it
on
a
new
construction
for
the
colors
at
3605,
23rd
Street.
They
had
the
fire
and
they
have
to
do
the
demolitions
that
was
new
construction.
There
was.
B
E
A
I
left
something
out
of
my
mouth
and
that
actually
just
like
rocked
the
foundations
of
all
historic
preservation.
So
please
ignore
what
I
said
just.
D
B
So
I
mean
at
the
moment
I,
don't
see
how
we
have
any
any
leeway
on
this
I
mean
we
can
take
this
to
the
board
and
see
what
the
board
says,
but
as
far
as
DRC
is
concerned,
the
the
guidelines
seemed
to
me,
like
they're,
fairly
clear
that
we
cannot
approve
or
recommend.
First
of
all,
we
don't
approve
anything,
we're
just
a
recommendation
committee,
well
that
we
can't
recommend
something
that
goes
against
the
guidelines.
So
we
would
have
to
look
to
hrb
for
for
guidance
on
this
on
this
issue.
C
C
D
B
A
M
We
were,
we
were
like
three
quarters
of
the
way
done,
and
the
guy's
like
well
you're,
already
done,
Mazda
go
ahead
and
finish
I
mean
we
finished
that
same
day
they
came
out,
and-
and
the
other
thing
is
too
is
three
quarters
of
the
siding-
could
not
be
saved
you,
you
look
back
at
the
old
photos.
The
back
of
the
house
was
fully
burnt.
The
back
the
the
left
side,
like
probably
two
or
three
feet
up
all
the
bottom
boards
were
rotten
all
the
way
across
the
bottom,
the
front
under
the
porch
all.
F
M
B
All
right,
well,
I,
I,
think
we're
we
we're
at
the
point
where,
where
that
this
this,
if,
if,
if,
if
it
isn't
going
to
be
replaced
in
kind
with
with
wood,
siding,
the
guidelines
do
not
allow
for
the
Hardy
plank.
So
if
this
has
to
go
before
the
board,
if
the,
if
there's,
if
we're
going
to
continue
to
contemplate
any
kind
of
replacement
with
anything
other
than
what
was
there
before,.
D
A
States
that
it's
not
appropriate
for
the
historic
structure
on
the
site.
M
A
M
A
We
we
do
not
stand
in
the
way
of
repairs
and
replacement
in
kind,
and
we
want
to
not
have
stood
in
the
way
of
the
replacement
in
kind,
but
you
were
asking
for
a
change
and
now
we're
saying
that
you're
frustrated
that
it's
going
to
take
time
to
get
the
replacement
material.
The
fire
happened
over
a
year
ago.
You
had
all
this
time
to
get
that
replaced
with
material
and
to
work
with
us
for.
M
I
didn't
I
didn't
start
till
January
because
it
takes
some.
So
you
know
if
anybody
gets
a
fire.
It
takes
six
to
nine
months
to
get
your
insurance
company
to
approve
the
estimate
for
you
to
get
started.
A
Oh
absolutely
and
I
mean
we
worked
with
the
call
Arts
who
really
struggled
to
get
through
that
process.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
empathy
for
it,
but
it
doesn't
exempt
the
owners
from
having
pursued
the
the
zoning
requirements
that
the
local
historic
district
zoning
overlay
requires
of
them.
A
So
this
it
sounds
like
this
is
gonna
go
on
the
discussion
agenda
in
the
meantime,
if
you
want
to
send
me
any
additional
information
because
you're
about
the
front
door,
that
would
be
helpful,
but
otherwise,
so
you
have
a
week
to
send
me
any
updated
information
that
you
would
like
to.
But
otherwise
this
will
be
on
the
discussion
agenda.
A
I
will
post
the
agenda
one
week
in
advance
with
a
stock
report
that
outlines
our
recommendations,
and
so
I
will
send
you
that
link
with
the
link
to
the
meeting
and
everything
in
the
agenda.
So
you
can
come
at
the
correct
time
next
week.
A
A
So
our
fourth
item
is
the
pergola
for
the
Green
Valley
Pharmacy.
It's
my
Army
Mr.
No
is
any
representative
for
the
Green
Valley
Pharmacy
on
the
line.
A
Well,
so
you've
seen
this
project
before
this
was
a
set
of
drawings
that
were
sent
to
me
off
during
the
each
other.
The
meeting
started
a
month.
I
cannot
get
confirmation
that
this
is
what
they
want.
This
is
the
last
thing
they
said
to
me:
I
am
meeting
with
them
in
their
entire
team
on
Friday,
so
maybe
I'll
look
at
some
more
information
out
of
them,
but
in
the
meantime
they
had
submitted
to
us
last
time
a
flat
top
to
warning
and
then
realized.
A
Actually
they
wanted
a
smoke
drawing
it's
still
below
the
coping
as
Andy
suggested,
and
it's
important
I
think.
C
C
Not
happen
and
I
don't
think,
there's
any
services,
foreign.
B
A
Will
be
operable
so
the
awning
itself
will
be
able
to
come
in
and
out.
The
pergola
is
permanent,
as
are
the
rafters,
but
the
actual
material
will
come
in
and
out.
I
think
they
also
hope
to
have
drop-downs.
A
The
owning
is,
if
you
look
at
the
second
page,
there's
a
diagonal
slope.
The
awning
will
be
the
diagonal
slope.
D
B
D
A
B
A
So
if
it
were
separate
and
freestanding
from
the
building,
it
sounds
like
it
would
be
much
more
acceptable,
but
we're
touching
it
and
therefore
there
was
actually
not
going
to
be
any
change
to
the
historic
building
and
you
wouldn't
have
to
worry
about
any
water
issues,
because
the
water's
sitting
on
top
of
the
butter
stoning
whatever
and
anything
else
like
that.
That.
C
C
You
must
learn
historic,
but
it
was
the
story
to
the
farmers.
It
was
not
historic
to
the
original
building.
The
original
building
was
a
grocery
store,
so
I
just
I,
don't
know,
I
think
we
recommended
the
application
for
Furnishing
motivations
at
this
point.
We've
been
asking
for
these
some
time,
and
this
is
the
first
time
they've
actually
shown
so
I
think
that's
basically
Justice
recommendations,
separated
with
their
posts
out
front
and
post
a
little
foot
building
and
supported
an
independence.
C
C
A
D
A
A
F
A
O
So
I
don't
have
much
to
say
about
the
project
other
than
the
DRC
and
the
hlrb
have
seen
a
couple.
Different
design
options
for
the
Elkins
building
and
I
know
Sarah
will
probably
get
into
it
a
lot
with
a
presentation,
but
this
is
just
a
reminder
that
this
is
in
the
form
of
the
commercial
form-based
code.
O
The
Elkins
building
is
identified
for
preserving
the
historic
facade
and
we
saw
them
about
I
think
three
times
last
year
and
the
last
time
we
saw
them
was
back
in
December
of
2022,
and
so
Sarah
is
here
to
kind
of
explain
how
the
Project's
been
moving
along
with
the
design
and
I'm
happy
to
help
remind
you
all
of
some
of
the
key
things
that
were
brought
up.
If
Sarah
doesn't
mention
it,
but
I
think
she
will.
O
What
were
some
of
the
things
that
the
hrb's
feedback
was
the
last
time
that
they
all
saw
this.
So
thanks,
Sarah
and
everybody
for
being
here.
N
Thanks,
Lauren
and
I
hope
everyone
can
hear
and
can
see.
My
screen
is
that
correct,
okay,
great
with
me
tonight,
I'm
Sarah,
marisk
gamalini's
attorney
at
Odin,
Feldman,
piddleman
and
with
me,
is
John
Regan
with
Christopher
companies
as
well
as
Angela
and
Rodney,
with
Devereaux
and
Associates
The
Architects
on
this
project,
and
as
Lauren
mentioned,
we
have
been
to
this
group
several
times
and
gotten
some
really
good
feedback
that
has
helped
inform
and
Advance
our
design.
N
I
have
a
few
introductory
slides
just
to
refresh
everyone's
memory,
since
it
has
been
several
months
since
we
have
been
before
this
group
just
to
remind
everyone.
This
site
and
see
if
I
can
advance,
is
a
very
small
site
at
the
corner
of
Walter
Reed
and
Columbia
Pike,
it's
less
than
half
an
acre
and
it's
currently
occupied
with
a
two-story
building
that
is
on
the
h-a-r-h-r-I
and
the
form-based
code
calls
for
facade
preservation
of
this
structure,
just
a
few
images
to
remind
everyone.
N
What
is
there
today
and
then
just
to
refresh
everyone's
memory
that
some
of
the
conversation
that
we
have
had
is
that
we
are
balancing
a
number
of
design
considerations,
including
the
preservation
of
the
facade
Transit
improvements
that
the
county
has
prioritized
along
Columbia
Pike
for
a
very
busy
and
well
used
bus,
stop
Transit
and
Street
modifications
along
Walter
Reed
and
then,
of
course,
we
are
addressing
the
requirements
of
the
form-based
code.
N
Others
May
jump
in
with
their
Recollections,
but
I
think
the
takeaways
that
we
had
from
prior
discussions
were
the
need
to
keep
the
facade
in
the
location
that
it
currently
is
in.
We
will
be
taking
the
building
down
to
preserve
and
protect
that
facade
to
clean
it
to
safeguard
it.
We
do
need
to
reconstruct
parking
underneath,
so
we
want
to
ensure
that
nothing
happens
to
the
structure
during
construction,
but
it
is.
We
do
recognize
the
importance
of
preserving
that
facade
as
it
currently
sits
in
its
current
location
and
as
currently
it's
formed.
N
We
also
heard
I
think
very
compelling
comments
about
making
sure
that
this
facade,
that
the
upper
stories
complement
the
streamlined,
modern
design
of
the
facade
and
then
also
that
the
design
and
color
choices
do
not
match
the
Elliott
that
is
approved
to
the
east
on
Columbia
Pike,
but
complement
that
design
of
that
building.
That's
been
approved
along
Columbia
Pike
and
then.
N
Finally,
we
have
had
some
discussion
with
this
group,
as
well
as
with
Des
about
the
need
to
both
accommodate
Transit,
stop
improvements,
but
in
the
context
of
preserving
this
facade
in
its
location,
and
so
what
you'll
see
tonight
is
I
wanted
to
go
back
to
refresh
everyone's
memory,
where
this
design
started,
what
you've
seen
and
where
it
is
today
and
what
we
have
tonight
is
just
to
give
a
little
bit
more
detail.
We
have
advanced
this
to
integrate
the
bus
shelter
into
the
structure.
N
So
in
this
image
you'll
see
the
existing
facade
does
have
these
different
sections
and
we
have
been
able
to
very
cleverly
I.
Think
Angela
and
Rodney
have
done
a
great
job
of
incorporating
this
into
that
structure
and
keeping
that
design
and
also
providing
the
transit.
Stop
that
Des
is
looking
for
are
in
the
context
of
this
structure,
so
to
go
back
we
this
is
where
we
started
in
April
2022.
We
heard
some
comments
that
this
perhaps
was.
N
The
upper
stories
were
not
consistent
with
the
historic
facade,
so
we
came
back
in
May
of
2022
with
in
a
design
that
had
Advanced
but
was
still
preliminary,
and
there
were
some
comments
about
I,
think
the
the
roof
line
and
some
of
the
elements
and
making
sure
that
the
design
read
perhaps
more
horizontally
and
was
a
better
balance
to
the
historic
facade.
N
When
we
returned
in
December
I
think
there
were
some
comments
that
the
design
was
improved
in
some
ways,
but
again
some
discussion
about
the
color
selection,
as
well
as
how
the
building
read
in
comparison
to
both
the
Elliot
to
the
east
on
Columbia
Pike,
as
well
as
the
historic
facade.
So
today
we
are
here
with
InDesign,
and
this
includes
the
transit
stop,
which
I
know
is
challenging
to
see
in
this
rendering.
But
we
have
advanced
design
and
are
here
tonight
to
to
hear
feedback
from
this
group
about
the
direction
that
it
has
taken.
N
So
I'm.
Just
gonna
quickly,
this
information
I
think
was
provided
in
advance.
I
think
this
is
a
helpful
rendering,
but
I
am
just
going
to
run
through
quickly.
Here
is
the
South
Walter
Reed
elevation
here
is
the
Columbia
Pike
that
we
were
seeing
here
is
the
rear
of
the
building
the
north
elevation,
where
the
access
to
the
parking
structure
would
be,
and
then
this
would
be
the
East
Elevation,
that's
adjacent
to
the
approved
Elliot,
so
it
would
be
very
close
and
would
not
be
particularly
visible
once
the
Elliott
is
constructed.
N
You
can
also
see
the
courtyard
on
this
facade
and
then
finally,
here
is
a
view
on
the
left
from
Columbia,
Pike
and
Elliot
ghosted
in
on
the
right
hand,
side
as
well
as
kind
of
the
image
from
looking
from
Walter
Reed
toward
Columbia
Pike
there.
On
the
right
hand,
side
the
only
other
thing
I
think
that
I
wanted
to
quickly
cover
that
was
in
the
package
that
was
provided
is
that
we
did
provide
some
material
selection.
That
includes
some
cast
stone,
Hardy
and
I.
Don't
know
Angela.
N
If
you
want
to
jump
in
and
say
anything
more
about
the
material
selection
but
I
think
tonight,
we
wanted
to
update
you
on
where
the
design
stands
and
get
this
feedback
before
proceeding
to
the
hlrb
with
that
John
or
Angela
I,
don't
know
if
you
all
want
to
add
to
my
quick
summary,
because
I
do
want
to
make
sure
we
get
to
the
discussion.
P
And
sure
I'll
fantasy
thoughts
about
the
materials
and
things
that
we
were
thinking
so
for
the
existing
building.
Just
to
to
reiterate
what
Sarah
was
saying,
it's
a
cream-colored
I
would
actually
say
it's
cream,
it's
more
of
a
Sandy
colored
Precast
panel,
black
framed
storefront
and
a
dark
Precast
base.
P
P
Also,
a
very
small
coordinates
across
the
top
of
the
building
at
the
second
level,
that's
also
a
black
metal
cornice,
and
so
our
goal
is
to
keep
as
many
as
the
materials
as
possible
on
the
existing
building,
as
actually
is
feasible
in
the
Reconstruction,
and
any
replacement
of
materials
will
be,
will
make
every
attempt
to
make
them
match
the
existing
so
that
there's
virtually
no
distinction
between
the
old
and
the
new.
P
As
you
can
see,
this
old
part
of
the
building
really
does
need
some
cleaning
and
just
in
a
visual
tour
through
the
building.
Some
of
the
Precast
panels
have
water
damage
and
probably
will
need
to
be
replaced,
but
we've
identified
a
a
Precast
color
that
we
think
is
an
excellent
match
for
this,
and
it's
practically
not
noticeable
at
all.
P
P
So
you'll
see
these
lighter
gray,
bands
that
take
place
at
the
floor
levels
and
those
are
the
light
cool
gray,
fiber,
cement,
siding
and
then
you'll
see
the
the
darker
cornice
band
at
the
top,
that
is,
of
a
of
a
dark
cool
gray,
same
family
range,
but
we're
going
kind
of
going
with
a
light,
mid
and
and
dark
color,
and
our
thought
was
with
this
dark
color.
P
P
P
We
want
to
be
able
to
capture
that
space
as
some
private
balcony
space,
where
people
just
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
to
do
a
whole
lot
out
there,
but
at
least
they
could
step
out
onto
that
second
floor
level,
and
so
the
parapet
of
that
exists
in
second
floor
is
not
quite
high
enough
for
the
building
code.
P
So
we
were
proposing
to
add
a
horizontal
profile
of
rail
on
the
inside
of
that
parapet,
probably
about
two
feet
tall,
just
to
get
us
to
the
point
where
we're
at
the
correct
height
for
building
code-
and
you
can
see
we
picked
on
the
left
hand.
Side-
is
the
cast
stone
that
we
match
to
the
existing,
as
well
as
the
dark
cast
stone,
which
is
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
it
on
the
building.
P
It's
under
the
storefront
windows
in
a
few
locations,
and
then
you'll
see
our
three
fiber
cement,
siding
colors,
a
light
mid
and
a
darker
color,
and
then
we
were
going
to
with
the
existing
canopy.
It's
a
dark
metal.
So
we
were
going
to
go
with
dark
metal
accents
for
the
handrails
and
also
for
the
windows,
and
then
one
last
thing
is
on
the
curve
between
Walter
Reed
and
Columbia
Pike.
We
went
with
a
different
window
pattern
on
that
curve.
P
Not
only
we
kind
of
wanted
to
accentuate
the
curve
a
little
bit,
but
also
to
kind
of
maybe
pick
up
on
the
Windows
along
the
second
level
of
the
existing
building,
which
have
a
tighter
mutton
spacing
and
window
spacing.
So
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
we
did
change
the
windows
in
that
location,
as
kind
of
an
accent.
K
I'm,
so
real,
so
anxious
not
to
to
talk
over
no
I
have
nothing
to
I
mean
I
can,
and
the
only
part
that
I
think
you
and
I
talked
about
was
a
little
bit
on
the
top,
we're
doing
it
to
be
smoother.
You
want
that
curve.
On
the
top
in
this
picture,
you
can
see
the
the
differences
between
the
two.
D
O
Thanks
so
much
for
providing
us
that
summary
of
everything
that's
going
on
with
the
design
we'd
like
to
now
have
this
go
to
the
DRC
to
provide
any
kind
of
feedback.
O
O
Can
we
zoom
in
on
the
transit,
shelter
I'd
like
us,
to
kind
of
focus
on
that
a
little
bit
and
see
how
the
DRC
is
feeling
Andy?
This
is
kind
of
part
of
your
suggestion
of
trying
to
see
how
we
can
incorporate
the
existing
facade
to
handle
a
possible
Transit,
shelter
and
wanted
to
see.
Could
you
is
there
a
way
that
you
can
zoom
in
Sarah
a
little
bit
more.
O
So
so
it
looks
like
with
what's
being
proposed
is
that
we
had
we
originally
had
a
you
know
the
the
that
part
of
it
was
two
side-by-side
Windows
and
an
entrance,
and
that
is
now
being
proposed
to
be
three
side
by
side,
and
so
are
you
all
proposing
to
kind
of
go
in
a
little
bit
more
into
the
kind
of
interior
space?
Or
is
it
still?
The
same
looks
like
it's
still
the
same.
K
It's
currently
in
in
dinner,
it's
going
to
be
going.
We
will
take
up
some
of
the
floor
space
of
our
building
to
accommodate
the
the
two
benches.
K
If
you
look
at
the
drawing
to
the
left
bottom
it
we
are,
you
know
this
was
this
was
to
they
because
we
didn't
want
to
move
the
the
big
discussion
was
not
to
move
the
facade
back
or
even
a
foot,
so
we're
putting
the
building
back
exactly
where
it
is
today
and
but
the
transportation
staff
really
needed
a
didn't
have
enough
clear
space
between
the
front
of
our
the
front
of
our
building
and
the
side.
K
You
know
the
front
or
the
curb
pan
on
Columbia
Pike,
so
by
in
incorporating
the
benches
inside
our
you
know,
underneath
of
our
basically
or
inside
of
our
building
they'll
still
be
outside,
but
it
allows
basically
the
bus
shelter
to
be
integrated
into
our
building
and
then
I
still
have.
We
still
have
clear
space
in
front
of
the
building
towards
the
the
curb
pan
that
would
get
allow
it's
the
best
of
both
worlds.
N
C
N
Do
and
what
I
was
gonna
say
Andy
is
that
there
is
a
bus,
stop
on
Walter
Reed,
but
it's
not
the
they
don't
have
the
volume
and
also
they
were
not
seeking
the
same
type
of
Transit
improvements
that
were
selected
or
requested
for
Columbia
Pike.
So
there
is
a
bus
stop
on
Walter
Reed,
but
the
Des.
The
county
is
not
looking
for
the
same
type
of
Transit
shelter
at
that
location
and
Lauren
may
have
a
better
way
of
saying
it,
but.
N
Columbia
Pike
will
have
the
higher
curb,
but
not
Walter,
Reed
I,
think
that
is
some
of
the
discussion
that
we've
had
is
that
we
would
have
to
construct
the
higher
curve
for
the
transit
platform
along
Columbia
Pike,
but
not
on
all
terrain.
C
Shelters
that
so
I
think
that
and
a
great
deal
to
this,
it's
it's
subtle.
It
doesn't
jump
out
at
you,
buildings
still
the
same
building
without
breast
shelter
and
I
think
it
makes
a
lot
more
sense.
B
O
B
I
was
very
disturbed
by
the
the
the
previous
iterations
you
know,
and
by
incorporating
it
into
the
into
the
building.
This
way
it
it
does
it.
You
know
it
I
think
it
satisfies
all
the
desire
to
to
to
to
have
a
place
for
people
to
sit
and
and
without
interfering
with
the
the
way
the
building
is
presented
to
the
streets.
I
think
it's
a
fantastic
solution,
I
think
it's.
O
E
Definitely
a
great
sort
of
design
solution
for
particular
particular
problem.
I
think
it
satisfies
a
lot
of
them
different,
different
different
names,
essentially
here
so
I'm.
Definitely
in
favor
of
it
I
commend
the
design.
D
O
Well,
I
think,
then,
if
it's
all
right,
I'd
like
us
to
transition
from
away
from
the
bus,
transit
and
now
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
kind
of
start
focusing
on
the
stories
above
the
historic
building
and
see
how
we're
feeling,
with
this
now
kind
of
horizontal
approach
that
they're
trying
to
do
as
well
as
kind
of
the
different.
It
seems
like
there's
about
three
different
materials
that
are
being
proposed
and
if
you
all,
could
kind
of
provide
your
feedback
on
that.
B
D
B
So
I
and
I
have
the
I.
Have
the
I
have
my
iPad
so
I
have
the
I
have
the
the
the
drawings
you
know
that
were
posted
on
the
website,
so
I
can
I
can
follow
along
from
here,
so
I
I,
don't
I
I
was
just
I
was
making
a
comment.
B
I
think
I
was
pretty
much
done,
that
the
that
I
thought
that
the
the
bus
that
that
bus
stop
was
a
was
a
fantastic
solution,
very
clever
and
and
to
be
commended
as
Andy
said,
and
then
I
guess
you
you
have
you
now
moved
on
to
the
facades.
O
We
just
started
and
Omari
pretty
much
was
in
agreement
with
what
your
comments
were
in
Andy's
comments
were
so.
O
O
To
know
how
people's?
How
the
DRC
feels
about
the
kind
of
new
proposed
design
for
the
upper
stories.
B
B
I
I
think
this
is
much
this
is.
This
is
a
a
big
Improvement
I
think
I
think
each
each
step
has
brought
it
closer.
B
I
I
like
that,
the
darker
I,
usually
don't
like
darker
facades
like
this,
but
but
I-
think
that
the
contrast
to
the
the
building
below
is
is
really
nice
and
helps
it
pop
so
that
you,
you
tend
to
see
the
the
the
the
building
below
and
I
like
that.
The
balconies
are
are
present,
but
not
dominating,
as
they
had
been
in
some
of
the
earlier
schemes.
So
I
think
I
think
this
is.
B
This
is
pretty
nice
a
couple
of
comments,
I
I
feel
like
it
might
be
of
benefit
to
end
the
building,
though,
on
a
with,
maybe
a
you
know,
a
light,
a
thin
light.
Cornice,
you
know
a
Capstone,
you
know
kind
of
like
the
building
below
ends
with
a
black
contrasting
cap.
B
If
there
was
something
like
a
white
line
or
a
lighter
line
across
the
top,
that
might
help
stop
the
building
right
now,
it
just
seems
like
it
just
got
cut
off,
but
you
know
and
that
that
that
maybe
that's
the
color
of
those
horizontal
bands-
or
maybe
it's
even
something-
that's
closer
to
the
you
know,
to
the
the
historic
building
but
but
I
think
it's
I
think
it
really
does
convey
the
modern
sort
of
experience.
B
But
I
had
another
question
which
is
on
the
on
the
side
of
the
building
on
the
Walter
Reed
side,
the
the
building
cantilevers
out
a
little
bit.
Is
that
because
there's,
a
a
driveway,
that's
being
accommodated?
Is
that
what
I've
kind
of
gleaned
from
the
drawing?
K
Of
the
okay,
the
Elliot,
the
Elliot
also
did
that
that
same
that
same
thing,.
B
Okay,
all
right!
Well,
anyway,
that's
those
are
my
comments.
I
think
this
is.
This
is
looking
really
good.
I'm
I'm
curious
to
hear
what
the
other,
what
the
other
members
have
to
say
so
I'll,
let
I'll
I
will
now
you
know
defer
to
them.
C
Again,
I
think
I
basically
agree
with
Pickens.
Really
nice
there's
two
images.
By
the
way
you
can
see
this
powder
there's
two
different
treatments,
looking
at
it
from
a
corner
across
from
the
wall
to
read
a
pike,
we're
looking
at
the
corner
on
these
two
shots
and
biggest
difference.
I
see
is
really
the
upper
one.
Has
a
real
Cornish
suit,
overhangs
slightly
and
the
other
just
basically
stops.
C
There's
a
straight
line.
I
think
the
lower
sketches
are
much
more
more
daring
approach.
C
Historic
structure
they
look,
the
building
looks
more
like
it
goes.
The
two
buildings
without
a
major
scene
I
think
it's
a
really
addition
really
does
complement
the
historic
structure
as
opposed
to
producing
it,
even
though
it's
much
larger
visually
I
think
the
dark,
ER
gray,
color
overall
of
that
nice,
creamy,
white
or
Sandy
White
historic
structure
really
makes
this
whole
exposure
stand
out.
O
Andy
can
I
ask,
can
I
ask
a
follow-up?
The
you're
saying
you
think
a
a
light
gray
line
towards
like
the
top
closer
towards
the
coping?
Are
you
saying,
like
the
actual
top
top
of
the
building
or
where
that
line
is
kind
of
dividing
that
top
part
of
the
building?
Is
that
what
you're
thinking.
K
K
I
clarify
that
too
real
quick
or
ask
the
same
question,
but
maybe
a
little
bit
different
or
you
see
the
bands
in
levels,
four,
five,
six,
the
the
lighter,
lighter
gray
colors.
So
would
you
are
you
saying
put
like
that
color
on
the
ver,
like
a
thin
band
of
that
at
the
very
top?
Is
that
what
you're
trying
to
say?
And
yes,
yes,.
B
E
Yeah
I,
don't
I,
guess
the
only
thing
that
that
I
would
add,
I
think
I
think
I
pretty
much
agree
with
all
of
it.
I
think
the
only
important
thing
that
I
would
add
that
perhaps
I
mean
I
I
do
I
just
would
have
missed
the
the
corner
window
treatment.
That's
that's
present
in
the
December
version
versus
versus
the
current
one,
I
I
kind
of
like
the
way
that
that
that
three
quarter
ones
are
sort
of
a
sort
of
more
bunched.
E
E
Modern
looks
enhancing
the
yeah
look
at
I.
Think
this
thing
opens
our
building
so.
K
E
That's
correct,
yeah,
that's
my
only
design
comment
really
otherwise.
Yeah.
B
Well
now,
what
Amari
was
referring
to
I
I
mean
I'm
I'm,
okay,
with
the
way
the
windows
are
now
in
in
the
current.
You
know
the
current
proposal,
but
you
know.
K
I'm
we're
in
the
last
what
what
page
is
that
Sarah,
because
he's
on
his
iPad.
N
I
know
but
Robert's
looking
at
the
submission
I
did
the
the
submission
that
Robert's
looking
at
doesn't
include
the
December
image
John,
so
he's
not
able
to
see
that
you're.
B
O
-Eyed
Windows
right
at
the
curve
part
and
right
now,
what
we're
seeing
is
three
three
windows
that
are
have
a
little
bit
of
spacing
in
between,
and
so.
B
I
eliminate
those
Amari
is
saying,
eliminate
those
Center
kind
of
Precast
pieces
in
between
right.
O
H
E
I
think
the
four
of
the
more
equal
square,
one
is
okay,
I
mean.
D
E
C
H
O
Right
can
I
ask
some
feedback,
though
I
want
to
ask
about
the
two
foot,
great
I,
think
or
I,
don't
like
kind
of
great
parapet
that
you're
putting
up
on
top
of
the
historic
aspect
of
it.
So
that
is.
Is
that,
like
a
black
bar
kind
of
material,
it's.
B
Blanked
out
an
event
to
accommodate
are:
is
there
essentially
a
balcony
that
is
continuous?
Yes,.
D
B
B
O
I'm
always
back
and
forth
on,
do
what
we
want
to
see.
This
is
something
that's
necessary
for
fire
code
they're
going
to
have
to
have
something
up,
so
it's
either.
It
could
be
a
solid
material
or
it
could
be
this
type
of
horizontal
rail
or
I,
always
kind
of
go
back
and
forth
with
the
idea
of
there
being
maybe
a
tempered
glass
which
is
very
modern,
looking
but
I.
What
are
what
are
your
thoughts
on
this
DRC
members,
I
I.
O
Great
and
any
concerns
about
the
kind
of
you
said
that
lighter
gray,
the
lighter
gray
materials
that
use
it.
That's
like
a
sighting.
D
P
O
Great
any
other
comments
that
the
DRC
members
have.
B
No
I
think
it's
I
think
this
is.
This
is
I
think
this
has
come
a
long
way
and
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
one
of
the
better.
You
know
additions
to
Historic
facades
that
we've
seen.
K
K
O
I'd
like
to
just
provide
so
so
I
think
you
all
have
received
some
really
good
constructive
feedback
from
the
DRC
members
you
all
but
I'm,
assuming
that
we,
the
DRC.
How
would
you
like
to
go
forward
on
this?
Do
you
because
it
seems
like
the
only
tweaks
that
we
are
suggesting?
Is
that
curved
window
section,
as
well
as
trying
to
kind
of
create
a
lighter
gray
band
towards
the
coping?
O
If
you
all
feel
that
you
can
make
those
adjustments
before
in
like
the
next
week,
you
could
present
that
to
the
hlrb
and
have
them
weigh
in
on
it
or
DRC
members.
If
you
want
to
be,
you
know
bold,
you
can
also
say
that
this
could
go
on
consent
agenda.
It's
kind
of
up
to
you
on
the
next
Direction
you'd
like
to
take
it.
B
Well,
I
I
said
Lauren
I
think
that
the
full
board
is
going
to
want
to
see
this
I.
Don't
think
it's
really
a
consent
thing,
but
I
would
I
would
say
that
if
they
can
make
those
changes,
you
know
they
well
one.
They
should
definitely
do
them.
D
N
O
That's
what
I
understand
Serena
is
do
I.
Have
it
I,
always
I,
always
question
myself.
A
No,
that
is
correct
for
submission
to
the
hlrb
for
review
ahead
of
the
meeting,
and
also
so
if
we
can
write
software
accurately
reflection.
D
O
And
I'd,
like
to
just
kind
of
mention,
I'd
like
us,
to
have
just
a
follow-up
discussion
about
how
things
how
you
will
be
approaching
the
historic
facade
and
taking
it
down
and
then
the
idea,
because
I
recognize
there
are
some
panels
that
are
not
in
the
best
of
shape
and
we
can
come
up
with
some
kind
of
guidelines
for
you
on
what
the
county
would
like
to
see
in
in
that
approach.
So,
but
that's
something
that
we
can
have
a
sidebar
conversation.
O
So
that's
pretty
much
I
think
that's
pretty
much
it
unless
the
DRC
has
any
other
things.
I'd
like
to
point
out
or
so
I
know,
if
I
missed
anything.
O
N
F
F
But
if
we're
fine,
just
like
just
doing
a
lighter
band
at
the
top,
we
can
find
a
color,
that's
still
part
of
the
monochromatic
color
scheme
that
works
with
the
top.
That's
what
I
was
going
to
speak
to
I'm
fine.
N
Great,
no,
that's
all
I
had
Lauren
I
want
to
make
sure
our
all
of
our
questions
got
addressed,
but
anyone
else
John
or
Angela.
N
D
N
O
So
this
next
item
is
the
reevesland
Run
of
the
reedsland
project
and
I
recognize
many
of
those
who
are
in
the
room,
some
who
I
talk
to
almost
every
day
and
so
and
khalib
and
Scott.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
O
I
appreciate
you
jumping
being
able
to
get
here
when
you
did
I
understand
what
some
of
your
team
members
not
being
able
to
be
here
tonight,
Mike,
if
you
want
to
go
right
into
any
introductions
or
anything
you
want
to
stay
to
before
Scott
goes
into
the
design.
L
No
I
think
we
could
dive
right
into
it.
I
think
everyone
on
the
call
right
now
is
a
veteran
of
these
conversations.
Definitely
of
the
last
you
know
six
months
or
so,
and
some
of
you
for
many
many
more
years
than
that
so
again
for
those.
L
If
there's
anyone
on
the
call
that
is
new,
my
name
is
spots
and
the
director
of
real
estate
development
for
Habitat,
DC,
Nova,
we're
partnering
with
homemade
the
national
capital
region
and
large,
greater
Washington
DC
to
preserve
the
produce
Farmhouse
or
an
intended
use
of
as
a
group
home
for
adults
with
intellectual
disabilities
and
their
caregivers,
I've
owned
and
operated
by
large
when
the
project
is
complete.
L
This
is
going
to
so
just
one
of
the
things
I
like
to
emphasize
every
time
we
have.
These
conversations
is
that
we
would
like
we,
you
know,
want
to
keep
the
mission
in
mind
for
this.
Historic
preservation
is
a
mission
as
part
of
this
project
and
a
very
important
and
critical
Mission
as
part
of
this,
but
we
also
are
working
to
preserve,
create
a
Housing
Resource,
a
permanent
Housing
Opportunity
for
critically
underserved
population.
L
J
Thanks
Mike,
so
am
I
correct
in
saying
that's
just
mariandy
and.
J
D
J
J
Just
so.
D
J
J
I
was
rendering
really
actually,
for
it
helps
us
understand,
helps
everybody
understand
it
better,
a
little
bit
more
photorealistic
rendering
to
give
a
better
understanding
of
all
the
pieces
and
parts,
but
also
for
Larson.
They
are
working
on
some
fundraising.
Efforts
is
helpful
for
them,
so
this
I
know
you
can't
read
any
of
that.
I
can't
read
on
it
either.
Hopefully,.
J
But
just
in
in
a
nutshell,
I'll
just
reiterate
what
we've
already
talked
about
on
the
on
the
historic
Farmhouse
the
plan-
and
this
is
represented
in
the
notes.
The
plan
is
to
remove
the
existing
aluminum
siding,
expect
what
we
have
underneath
repair
and
repaint.
What
is
there
assuming
there's
enough
there
isn't.
A
substantial
amount
of
rotten
damage
plan
is
to
work
through
a
restoration
of
that
existing
wood,
siding
underneath
in
kind.
J
The
addition
at
the
ground
level
is
all
you
know:
new
modern
materials,
it's
fiber,
cement,
signing
and
he's
at
corner
boards
and
the
azec,
even
though
asphalt
shingles
above
the
two
things
that
we
wanted
to
talk
specifically
about
that
we
kind
of
passed
with
doing
a
little
bit
more
homework
and
wanted
to
talk
in
more
detail
in
this
iteration
are
the
windows
in
the
historic
structure
fast
time?
If
you
remember
at
the
full
board,
we
talked
about
wanting
to
use
aluminum,
clad
wood.
J
F
J
We're
representing
here
took
that
discussion
to
heart
and
so
we're
proposing
that.
However,.
D
J
J
Bit
more
of
a
shiny
Sheen
than
a
matte
paint
I,
don't
think
it
makes
sense
to
try
and
apply
it
and
another
coat
of
paint
onto
the
manufactured
vinyl
window.
That's
a
little
bit
of
a
distinction
and
point
out
that
you
know
that
that
sort
of
research
that
came
back
with
part
of
that
is
again
with
the
budget.
You
can
get
other
finishes
on
vinyl
windows
but
being
expensive.
So
the
point
of
using
vinyl
windows
is
to
help
balance
the
button.
So
using
some
sort
of
standard
white
vinyl
window
s
are
intended.
J
The
other
thing
we
talked
about
on
the
historic
structure
last
time,
which
I'm
noticing
in
our
notes
needs
a
little
bit
of
a
edit
and
a
language
because
50
years
of
exactly
what
we're.
What
we
want
to
do
what's
written
is
proposing
painted
wood
up
at
the
eve
and
what
we
talked
about
last
time
and
what
we
would
like
to
do
and
we'll
edit
this
for
our
resubmission
next
week.
Just
to
make
sure
everybody's
on
the
same
page
is.
D
D
J
A
replacing
all
the
roofing,
with
with
new
asphalt,
shingles
we're
replacing
the
gutters
and
downspouts
with
a
with
a
five
inch
half
round,
and
that
comes
straight
out
of
the
Milner
report.
Recommendation
is
given
that
it's
all
you
know
much
higher
up
on
the
building
and
out
of
reach
reach.
The
appearance
will
be
really
the
same
as
if
it
were
wood.
D
D
J
J
There
was
a
refreshed
Milner
report.
We
had
the
original
report
that
updated
report
from
2011.
Thank
you
that
actually
indicated
that
the
re-inspection
of
the
eve
much
of
the
ease
of
the
historic
structure.
There
was
a
lot
of
deterioration
between
the
original
report.
J
E
J
J
A
new
element
and
B
is
so
high
up
out
of
reach
and
Visually
distant.
You
won't
really
notice
a
difference,
so
not
only
just
sort
of
the
eve
trim
here
that
goes
around
it,
but
also
to
use
vinyl
windows
there.
If
your
mouth
and
to
use
synthetic
I,
don't
think,
there's
really
any
siding
up
there
per
se,
because
it's
really
just
trip
there's
not
enough
surface
area
to
do
signing
up
there.
It's
all
just
trim.
J
That
would
be
not,
unlike
you
know,
the
material
here
at
the
Eden.
So
that's
what
we
would
like
to
propose
discussion.
Of
course,
those
are
the
highlights.
You
know
kind
of
circling
back
to
what
we
talked
about
before,
but
I
tried
to
describe
the
Glee
that
Cynthia
had
when
she
saw
this,
the
first,
the
rendering
that's
coming
to
life.
It.
E
O
J
J
D
J
Of
this
to
indicate
the
synthetic
material
thing
would
have
meant
it
was
meant
to
say
synthetic.
Then
it
will
fix
that
this
is
down
the
porch
railing.
You
know
the
post
that
exists
will
be
restored
and
repainted.
This
is
the
new
railing
that
we've
we've
talked
about
between
the
posts
and
it's
just
really
simple:
stock
railings
not
turned
balusters,
just
Square
balusters,
very
simple
and
clean
that
that
we're
playing
I'll
just
be
one.
J
C
J
I
apologize.
These
are
very
hard
to
see
in
the
projected
as
possible.
J
J
Book
before
I
prefer
smooth
myself
anyway
and
then
the
the
asphalt
shingles
I
appreciate
those
discussion
about
the
church.
Earlier
we
talked
last
time
on
this
too
that
the
Milton
report
indicates.
It
was
mostly
a
wood
chain
roof.
J
That's
why
we
sort
of
went
in
this
Direction
with
the
brown,
but
dimensional
I
think
makes
sense
there
from
given
the
earlier
conversation
about
dimensional
shingles,
because
you
know
wood
shakes
did
have
more
texture
and
dimension
to
them
than
other
the
blast
over
the
windows.
You
know
we
have
some
cut
sheets
and
they
they
are
real
wood
windows
that
fairly
narrow
profile.
J
C
G
D
J
A
lot
of
deterioration
that
we
can
that's
visible,
we've
had,
the
structural
engineer
has
been
out
and
done
in
detail.
Walk
there.
D
D
D
D
J
J
This
is
the
extent
of
the
the
original
house
this.
This
is
the
porch.
You
know
the
sort
of
indent
porch.
D
J
J
F
J
We're
going
to
remove
the
joists
and
I'm
still
kind
of
figuring
out
the
logistics
of
the
contractor
about
how
to
achieve
it
from
a
constructability
standpoint
s
we're
still
negotiating
in
that
negotiating.
That's
right!
We're
trying
to
work
through
that
with
them
in
terms
of
sequencing,
but
to
be
able
to
Shore
that
structure
cut
out
the
joists.
When
we
look
at
the
Milner
report,
there
are
some
details
about
how
the
joists
intersect
the
sill
plate
and
all
that
and
and
assuming
that
those
are
all
correct.
We.
J
The
balloon
frame,
exterior
framing,
comes
down
and
sits
on
the
sill
plane.
The
joist
comes
in
is
notched
over
the
subway,
so
it's
not
platform
framed
in
that
the
joist
sits
and
then
the
ball
sits
on
top
of
that.
So
we
think
we
can
leave
the
wall
in
place
and
cut
out
the
joists
and
then
basically
just
before
a
slab.
C
J
O
J
Okay,
I
didn't
have
a
lot
more
to
present
because
those
were
the
really
the
primary
issues
that
we've
talked
about
coming.
J
O
Can
you
just
quickly
remind
us,
what's
happening
with
those
yeah.
E
J
The
that
same
torsion
attendant
house
on
the
East
facade
above
the
old
closing
porch
we're
replacing
them
in
kind
just
like
the
others,
as
divided
lights
with
Windows.
We
had
talked
about,
and
thank
you
for
reminding
me
we
had
talked
about.
What
we
would
prefer
to
do
if
acceptable
to
the
be
in
the
board,
is
to
replace
them
in
kind
with
wood
windows
like
all
the
rest,
but
not
do
the
lights,
because
you
know
a
true
divided
light.
Wood
window
is
yet
another
Beast
compared
to
a
woodwind
they're.
D
O
Okay,
so
we
are,
we
are
doing
a
in
kind,
wood
window
replacement
for
those.
But
let's
get
clarification.
How
the
DRC
feels
if
they
should
stay
six
over
six
or
if
they
should
go
to
one
over
one,
correct.
O
All
right
is
that
seems
to
be
all
your
highlights,
that
I
think
DRC
members,
let's
talk,
let's
get
into
it.
How
are
you
all
feeling
about
the
The
Proposal
with
the
kind
of
synthetic
materials
that
that
is
being
done
around
the
roof
as
staff?
We
feel
that
it's
appropriate
to
allow
so
that
it
is
durable
and
it's
less
maintenance
I'm
interested
in
just
to
be
appropriate.
Do
you
all
have
any
concerns
on
that.
B
This
is
Robert
I'm,
going
to
jump
in
I
I,
don't
specifically
have
because
I
think
we've
done
this
before
in
in
areas
that
are,
you
know
damp
areas
that
it's
a
part
of
the
Maywood
guidelines
and
so
and
it's
also
the
the
elements
are
high
and-
and
you
know
what,
if
they're
painted
I,
don't
think
you'll
be
able
to
tell
the
difference
from
from
the
woods
so
I
don't
specifically
have
a
problem
with
that.
B
But
let
me
just
I
I
want
to
I'm
I've
reached
the
end
of
my
my
my
back
is
killing
me
I'm
gonna
I,
have
to
peel
out
of
here,
but
I
want
to
say
that
it
looks
really
good.
I.
Think
those
the
the
perspectives.
Look,
the
perspective
looks
really
nice,
I
I
think
it's
it.
The
the
project
looks
really
good
and
I'm
Gonna
Leave
it
to
the
other
DRC
members,
because
I'm
going
to
buy
a
bow
out
at
this
point.
B
So
so
thank
you
for
all
your
hard
work
on
this
because
it
I
think
it
looks
really
good.
It's
going
to
be
a
great
project.
Thank
you.
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
say
goodbye
right
now:
thanks
Robert,
okay,
bye-bye
bye.
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
L
L
L
They
wanted
to
again
keep
it
open,
emphasizing
the
current
openness
because
they
want
to
encourage
neighbors
to
come
by
talk.
You
get.
J
L
D
D
E
About
that
actually,
good
I
think
that
any
sort
of
again
any
sort
of
like
any
sort
of
synthetic
material
at
at
the
eaves,
essentially
that
that
also
that's
all
makes
sense.
I
mean
but,
like
like
Amy
said,
I
mean
the
major
views
of
this
movie
from
either
the
sort
of
Park
below
or
from
the
trail
or
from
a
little
bit
further
off.
I.
Think
that
that
don't
detract
at
all
oh
God.
E
D
E
In
the
sort
of
spirit
of
I
guess
it's
the
client
and
also
the
other
neighbor
as
well.
C
C
No
so
I
mean
I
really
think
respected.
What
were
you
often
ask
for
people
in
the
neighborhood
or
whatever,
which
is
slot?
The
street
was
so
much
I,
think
you're
taking
care
of
them.
F
E
It
would
be
more
correct,
pregnancy,
symptoms,
all
sort
of
compositional
things.
It
completely
makes
sense.
Okay,.
E
J
O
Okay
and
so
thinking
of
all
the
things
that
Scott
used
you
mentioned
so
so
we're
getting
one
over
one,
wood
replacement
windows
on
the
historic
house,
we're
gonna
have
the
six
over
six
turned
into
one
over
ones.
Those
are
going
to
be
wood
as
well
that
the
windows
in
the
Dormer,
those
are
going
to
be
vinyl
and
that
the
windows
on
the
Edition
are
going
to
be
vinyl.
O
That's
the
kind
of
counterbalance
the
cost
of
the
wood
window,
replacement
and
you're
gonna
make
those
changes
on
the
plans
to
say
that
it's
like
the
roofing
material
is
going
to
be
synthetic
and
you're,
also
going
to
make
an
update
to
the
Edition.
Siding
is
not
going
to
have
the
wood
grain
that
it's
going
to
be
a
smooth
finish.
Yeah,
okay,
sounds
and
based
on
what
I've
been
typing
up
in
my
notes,
Omari
and
Andy
you're
comfortable
with
all
of
those
kind
of
detail,
changes
correct.
O
J
D
J
J
L
L
In
the
long
run-
and
you
know
we
are
building
in
a
very
sustainable
budget
for
the
long-term,
with
reserves
and
the
like.
But
as
any
of
you
who
are
familiar
with
funding
for
data.
F
L
For
people
with
special
needs,
it's
not
exactly
the
most
robustly
funded
program
in
the
world,
so
you
know
if
we
can
build
more
durably
up
front
to
provide
more
sustainable,
long
run.
You
know
that
those
are
the
types
of
cost
related
and
maybe
that
can
be
I
mean
obviously
there's
a
limit
to
what
we
can
do.
You
know
the
budget.
There
are
kind
of
maximums,
but
we're
you
know
within
reason.
We
can
make
some
trade-offs.
O
I
think
I
think
if
anything,
if
Scott,
if
you
all
wouldn't
mind,
taking
a
look
at
the
Miller
report
to
see
if
we
don't
have
details
on
that,
we
might
be
able
to
find
if
there's
any
information,
possibly
in
the
Sanborn
Maps
concerning
the
roofing
material.
But
if
you
all
haven't
noticed,
sometimes
with
figuring
out
how
they
can
how
everybody
can
kind
of
work
on
this
project.
O
Don't
want
to
see
there
be
something
else
so
start
to
kind
of
go
into
a
different
material,
but
but
we
can.
We
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
O
If
you
all
didn't
realize
this
is
coming
to
the
hlrb,
hopefully
this
this
month,
if
you
guys
feel
it's
ready
to
go
to
the
next
step,
because
habitat
is
looking
to
get
its
final
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
this
project
and
they
need
that
in
order
to
go
to
the
next
steps
to
have
this
heard
before
the
County
Board,
based
on
the
letter
of
intent
and
kind
of
like
the
agreement,
that
habitat
has
with
count
with
the
county
on
how
what
are
some
of
the
parameters
that
they
have
to
get
through
to
basically
get
conveyed
the
property.
O
So
some
of
the
things
that
is
not
being
shown
at
we
kind
of
hinted
a
little
bit
about
the
Landscaping,
but
some
of
that
is
going
to
be
figured
out,
leading
to
many
of
the
permits
that
habitat's
going
to
have
to
get
for
this
they're
going
to
have
to
have
a
finalized
Landscaping
plan,
and
those
are
things
that
our
Urban
Design
Team
urban
forestry,
as
well
as
myself,
will
be
a
part
of
that
review,
and
there
are
a
couple
other
things
that
are
happening
on
the
site,
but
they're
happening
outside
the
local
Historic
District
boundary.
O
So
that
doesn't
mean
that
that
means
they
can
do
whatever
the
heck
they
want.
It
just
means
that
they
don't
necessarily
need
to
come
to
the
hlrb
to
get
approval
for
those
items,
but
those
will
be
a
part
of
their
larger
package
going
through
the
use.
Permit
amendment
process
for
this,
so
so
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
point
that
out.
O
O
So
have
we
provided?
Is
there
anything
that
you
all
have
questions
on
that
maybe
hasn't
been
addressed?
Scott
Mike.
J
No
Lauren,
thank
you,
I
think
those
those
were
the
issues
and
you
reminded
me
of
the
six
over
six.
We
got
that
so
I
I
think
we
I
have
all
my
questions.
I
don't
like.
If
you
have
any
additional.
L
No,
not
not
at
this
time,
I
think
we
are
all
set
and
obviously
there's
those
are
the
big
picture
items
that
would
be.
We
were
addressing
in
advance
and
we're
looking
forward
to
being
back
here
in
a
few
weeks
or
in
a
couple
weeks
to.
D
L
Final
approval
final
COA
later
this
month,.
D
L
O
Think
the
only
thing
we'll
just
need
is
for
you
all
to
make
the
updates
to
your
plans
so
that
we
can
have
that
by
next
Wednesday,
so
it
can
be
submitted
for
the
HLA
beta
review
and
then
okay,
I,
think
I.
Think
when
you're,
when
you're
making
the
changes,
maybe
to
your
renderings,
that
about
the
six
over
six.
If
you
want
to
change
that
to
one
over
one
I
think
that
that's
fine,
so
they
can
see
what
it
looks
like,
but
make
make
a
point
that
that
is
being.
O
J
A
I
Well,
I
wasn't
sure
Serena.
If
and
thank
you
all
for
coming
in
here
too
I
appreciate
you
squeezing
me
into
the
agenda.
I
A
I
just
suggest
that
we
weren't
sharing
sometimes
it's
hard
to
okay,
because
we
just
have
to
unshare.
Here
we
are
so.
Yes,
we
were
sharing
your
images.
Okay,
yes,
the
whole
time
I
was
presenting
your
images
and
telling
you
about
them,
and
you
could
not
see
them
because
they
responding
on
our
screen
before
yeah
just
go
through
them
again.
This
is
the
location
you
sent
me
and
this
is
a
photo,
the
other
direction.
Next
to
the
electrical
box.
A
This
is
information
to
sketch
from
the
contractor
and
again
the
location.
So
you
go
back
down
to
that
location.
I
I
sent
in
the
picture
of
the
because
I
think
Serena,
our
contractor
Chris
Dewar
who's,
our
electrician
who's.
Also,
a
fellow
Maywood
resident
I
understood
from
him
that
that
you
were
thinking
oh
well.
I
Maybe
we
could
put
it
behind
the
fence
and
so
I
wasn't
sure
if
you
knew
like
what
was
behind
the
fence
and
that's
all
of
our
AC
equipment
and
like
the
trash
cans
and
stuff
on
that
they're
not
on
the
wall,
but
we
like
measured
it
and
everything
and
that
whole
side
behind
the
fence
is
the
new
addition
and
underneath
that
is
just
crawl
space.
So
I,
don't
even
know
like
how
we
would
first
of
all
I,
don't
think
it
needs
code
because
we
have
to.
I
He
said
we
have
to
have
it
a
certain
amount
of
feet
away
from
existing
equipment
and
then
there's
no
space
like
underneath
for
him
to
bring
the
conduit
up
so
I,
don't
know
how
that
would
work
exactly
and
also
we
measured
just
like
okay.
Well,
let's
say
somehow
we
could
figure
out
if
this
would
work.
So
we
took
the
measuring
table
on
all
the
way
down
but
from
where.
I
First
of
all,
he
doesn't
think
he
could
do
it
because
of
code
first
of
all,
but
we
still
measured,
and
we
can't
find
a
cable
that
that's
long
enough,
so
you
know
I
just
thought
it
would
be
okay
and
appropriate
to
still,
even
though
it
doesn't
look
like,
we
can
technically
put
it
behind
the
fence
in
a
workable
way
that
we
could
do
it.
You
know
on
the
side,
just
where
all
the
other
electrical
stuff
is
anyway,.
D
I
Well,
I
think
the
conduit
is
gonna
like
that
electrical
panel
right
there,
the
the
the
conduit
goes
inside
the
house
into
the
basement
at
that
point,
so
he's
gonna
run
the
conduit
from
the
interior
up
just
straight
into
the
box,
so
there'll
be
very
little
if
any
external
conduit
shown
or
at
all
right.
E
It
is
yeah,
I
guess
a
couple
questions
I
mean:
would
it
would
it
be
possible
to
put
it
closer
to
to
the
Box
itself
or
or
is
it
that
hammered
by
the
gas
meter
or
I?
Think
it
rear
Source
still
slide
door
down
towards
the
box?
Would
that.
E
I
That's
why
it's
not
any
deeper
than
the
panel
and
the
panel
is
going
to
have
to
move
actually
closer
to
because
it's
gonna
so
the
way
he
was
explaining
it.
So
that's
the
old,
because
this
is
part
of
the
electrical
panel
upgrade
too
and
so
that
panel.
That's
there
it's,
it
actually
will
be
closer
to
where
the
we
would
like
to
put
the
charger,
because,
like
the
old
panel,
has
to
stay
there,
and
then
he
puts
like
the
new
panel
in
to
the
right
of
it
and
I
think
maybe
a
little
bit
bigger.
I
I
I
think
that's
how,
when
they
attach
the
new
conduit
to
who
explained
to
me
like
they
have
to
daisy
chain
it
for
a
while,
so
I
don't
know,
but,
like
so
I
think
it
will
actually
be
a
little
bit
closer
and
depth
wise
I
think
they're
about
the
same
depth.
So,
like
you
know,
they'll,
look
like
this
right
like
the
panel
and
then
the
charger
like
that,
because
they're
about
the
same
depth,
okay,.
E
D
A
E
E
A
Yeah,
okay,
so
I
am
going
to
be
deciding
on
the
consent
agenda
and
I
will
contact
you
about
what
that
means.
So
it
doesn't
sound
like
we
need
any
additional
documentation
so
that
this
can
go
forward
afterwards
and
I
will.
Let
you
know
one
week
in
advance.
The
consent
agenda
is
heard
first,
so
it.
F
A
The
Commissioners
can
pull
it
at
any
time,
as
can
any
of
your
neighbors
come
through
it.
By
submitting
a
question
or
saying
hey,
I'm,
concerned
about
this,
but
I'll,
let
you
know
in
advance
if
that
happens,
and
it
rarely
does
honestly,
but
otherwise
you
should
get
your
an
update
about
the
decision
on
July
19th.