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A
Okay,
thank
you.
Thanks
for
everyone's
patience
for
our
late
start
in
the
meeting,
we
had
a
room
change.
The
number
of
things
pop
up
so
definitely
appreciate
that,
but
excited
to
be
back
in
person
after
our
month
off
on
our
virtual
meeting
in
July.
So
first
item
on
our
agenda
is
public
comment
on
items
not
on
the
agenda,
and
then
we
have
a
number
of
speakers
who
are
signed
up
to
speak
about
plan
lakes.
B
A
A
E
A
A
I
just
found
it
again
so
under
homeownership
study
information,
it
says
comic
web
asset
missing
middles
happening
at
all
in
conjunction
with
this
study,
so
it
wasn't
just
missing
middle.
It
was
the
the
study
the
staff
is
going
to
be
into
I,
think
affordable,
expanded
housing
options
of
just
that.
The
correction.
F
A
Do
I
have
a
second
great
thank
you,
Karen
and
all
those
in
favor
say
aye.
C
A
Those
pose
any
abstentions,
hey
the
minutes
are
approved.
Thank
you.
All
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
playing
links
in
Boulevard.
I
know
the
agenda
said
that
this
is
an
action
item,
It's,
actually
an
information
item
tonight,
so
staff
will
be
presenting
about
it.
We
do
have
the
option
if
we
want
to
do
a
letter
to
the
County
Board
prior
to
the
request
advertise,
but
it
is
not
specifically
an
action
item
for
us
tonight,
but
I
would
like
staff
to
answer
as
part
of
the
presentation
will.
G
A
H
Thank
you
Mr
chair.
Yes,
we
will
be
coming
back
to
the
commission
sometime
in
October,
so
I
have
a
quick
timeline
here
that
I
would
share.
H
Can
you
confirm
that
you
can
see
the
slide?
Yes,
awesome,
okay,
and
we
just
arrange
something
here
so
I
can
see
you
and
also
my
notes.
Oh
one.
Second,
okay,.
H
All
right
so,
as
I
was
saying
yes,
we
will
be
coming
back
to
the
Commission
in
October.
Our
plan
is
to
go
to
basically
submit
this
for
the
RTA
draft
for
PC
and
County
Board
in
October,
and
then
the
final
adoption
will
be
in
November,
so
our
goal
is
to
come
back
to
you
all
after
we
present
this
to
the
Planning
Commission.
H
To
give
you
an
opportunity,
you
know
to
review
the
actual
draft
that
is
presented.
You
know
for
the
board,
so
with
that
I'll
just
go
ahead
and
start
the
presentation
again.
My
name
is
Natasha
Alfonso,
Ahmed
and
I'm
the
project
manager
for
the
Langston
Boulevard
planning
study
I.
Most
of
you
are
aware.
This
is
the
process
to
develop
and
ultimately
adopt
a
very
comprehensive
high
level
vision
for
the
quarter
that
will
guide
more
public
and
private
investment
long
term.
H
We
are
currently
completing
phase
three
of
a
multi-phase
planning
study
which
began
in
2019,
based
on
some
previous
analysis
and
Community
feedback.
We
developed
and
released
a
draft
plan
in
June
of
this
year,
which
includes
new
policies
to
support
the
goals
and
vision
for
the
corridor
to
become
a
green
Main
Street,
as
well
as
preliminary
information
on
implementation.
H
In
those
areas,
the
plan's
policies
and
recommendations
are
centered
around
sustainability,
environmental
resilience
and
Equity
by
applying
a
sustainable
and
Equitable
Equitable
approach
to
land
uses
by
leveraging
proximity
to
Transit
and
existing
activity,
centers
to
reduce
travel
times
and
carbon
emissions,
and
by
increasing
housing,
Supply
and
meeting
the
needs
of
diverse
residents
and
household
types.
H
The
policies
on
housing
focus
on
increasing
housing
choices
and
Supply,
particularly
caps
committed,
affordable
units.
The
primary
recommendation
and
the
plan
is
to
concentrate
residential
development
in
the
core
study
area,
allowing
residential
and
Commercial
areas
which,
as
many
of
you
know,
is
not
allowed
today
through
the
zoning
code
and
also
by
increasing
the
densities
throughout
the
planning.
Well,
throughout
the
core
study
area
to
increase
the
supply
of
housing,
including
multi-family,
the
plan
sets
policies
for
increasing
committed,
affordable
units
are
affordable
to
households
up
to
60
Ami.
H
This
can
be
achieved
a
number
of
ways,
including
through
the
Redevelopment
and
info
of
sites,
that
already
have
calves
through
renegotiated
CAF
agreements
and
do
the
conversion
of
existing
marks
two
paths.
H
The
plan
does
establish
a
policy
to
accommodate
the
renovation
of
Aging
residential
abilities
in
order
to
sustain
marks
in
the
short
term
until
Property
Owners
choose
to
pursue
full
or
partial
Redevelopment
options
which
which
are
available
under
this
plan.
H
The
current
housing
mix
in
the
corridor
or
the
the
overall
planning
area
provides
very
limited
opportunities
for
lower
middle
income
households.
H
The
exception
to
this
is
within
area
5
East,
which
is
North
Highlands.
That
area
has
39
percent
of
people
of
color
Additionally
the
census
tract
100
800,
which
includes
Hoss
Hill
and
Highview
Park
in
the
western
end
of
the
corridor.
That
area
has
64
percent
of
people
of
color.
H
H
Overall
again,
the
planning
area
is
more
affluent
than
the
county
as
a
whole.
If
you
look
at
the
chart,
there's
a
lot
on
there,
but,
just
generally
speaking,
the
percentages
of
households
that
are
earning
200,
000
or
more
is
about
37
compared
to
27
percent.
County-Wide
and
the
percentages
of
households
earning
less
than
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
33
percent
compared
to
39
county-wide.
So,
however,
again
you
know
when
you
look
at
specific
census
tracts.
H
The
percentage
of
households
that
are
earning
less
than
a
hundred
thousand
is
is
higher
in
some
areas
in
the
county
as
a
whole,
so,
for
example,
in
in
census
track
100
900,
which
again
includes
Hall's
Hill
and
Highview
Park
40
of
the
households
in
that
geography
are
earning
less
than
a
hundred
thousand
and
in
North
Highlands.
It's
actually
51
percent
of
households
that
are
earning
less
than
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
annually.
H
Currently,
there
are
only
eight
percent
of
existing
units
in
the
planning
area
that
are
considered,
affordable
again
up
to
60
Ami
before
the
pandemic.
That
number
was
actually
only
five
percent
of
units
that
were
affordable.
H
We
expect
that,
as
the
rents
returned
to
pre-pandemic,
levels
of
the
number
of
affordable
units
will
will
decline
again
in
a
planning
area,
so
the
affordable
housing
master
plan
indicated
a
need
for
2500,
affordable
units
by
2040
through
a
combination
of
committed
and
market
rate,
affordable
units.
The
June
draft
that
we
presented
provided
very
preliminary
figures
on
the
potential
housing,
Supply
and
calves,
which
you
can
see
on
the
slide.
Along
with
you,
know
the
current
distribution
of
affordable
units
by
neighborhood
area.
H
These
projections
are
still
under
review
and
will
be
based
on
on
more
specific
site
analysis
that
we're
conducting
planning
recommendations
as
well
as
feedback
that
we've
received
from
the
community
and,
most
recently
from
the
County
Board,
which
is
a
slightly
different
approach
for
how
the
2500
figure
in
the
2015,
affordable,
housing
master
plan
was
derived
as
as
we
know
that
was
based
on
a
sort
of
General
approximation
or
percentage
of
the
county-wide
growth,
and
with
this
planning
study,
we
have
an
opportunity
to
look
more
in
more
detail
at
these
sites
and
to
see
what
they
can
deliver
over
time.
H
H
The
plan
proposes
four
new
activity
hubs
in
addition
to
East
Falls
Church
in
Cherrydale.
The
framework
that
you
see
here
supports
the
policies
on
economic
Vitality,
but
also
housing
by
again
concentrating
development
in
those
core
areas
that
are
accessible
to
Metro
and
Transit,
and
by
and
by
supporting
commercial
activity
and
jobs
and
expanding
the
residential
uses
and
densities.
As
I
said
before
in
areas
that
are
not
allowed
today
and
increasing,
and
overall
increasing
the
housing
Supply
and
the
levels
of
affordability.
H
So
to
support
that
land
use
framework,
the
policies
on
building
form
are
all
our
established
to
to
achieve
context-sensitive
building
design,
and
they
do
that
by
focusing
the
tallest
building
Heights
at
again
those
activity
hubs
key
intersections
along
the
border
and
within
walking
distance
of
Metro
and
bus
stops
and
by
establishing
parameters
for
setbacks
and
step
backs
and
desired
High
transitions
to
ensure
that
we're
being
sensitive
to
the
adjacent,
low
density,
residential
edges.
H
C
J
H
A
Were
talking
about
the
the
zones
of
higher
building
Heights
and
trying
to
make
it
you
know
conform
with
residential
edges
and
preferences
there
and
yeah
I
think
that
was
about
it.
H
There
yeah
all
right,
are
you
hearing
an
echo
I'm,
sorry
nope,
nope?
Okay,
then
it's
just
me:
I
can
deal
with
it
all
right,
then
I'm
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
because
I
did
talk
about
the
framework
for
Building
height
and
how
that
supports
again
the
goal
for
increasing
housing,
Supply
and
affordability.
H
What
I
was
mentioning
it
with
this
slide
is
that,
in
addition
to
the
concerns
that
we've
heard
about
height,
which,
as
we've
said,
is
needed
to
increase
Supply,
there
are
very
specific
concerns
about
housing,
which
are
mostly
about
the
potential
concentration
of
affordable
units
in
some
areas
where
there's
already
affordable
housing,
the
prioritization
of
renovating
existing
marks,
so
those
are
not
lost
and
then
opportunities
for
revisiting
the
East
Falls
Church
and
Cherrydale
Cherrydale
plans
to
optimize
again
the
affordable
housing
Supply
along
the
corridor.
H
From
staff's
perspective.
The
projected
affordability
is
expected
to
remain
pretty
well
distributed
across
the
corridor,
but
with
a
greater
share
in
areas
three
and
five
West,
which
is
Waverly
Hills
if
you're
familiar
with
it
in
North
Highlands.
H
So,
as
I
said
before,
the
plan
does
support
the
vision
for
increasing
housing,
Supply
and
affordability
and
increasing
calves
in
terms
of
renovation
of
marks.
Well,
that
may
reduce
carbon
impacts
overall,
which
is
the
concern
that
we're
hearing
about.
It
does
limit
the
opportunity
to
increase
the
overall
housing,
Supply
and
affordable
units
along
the
quarter.
I
mean
at
one
point:
there
are
trade-offs
to
everything
and
then,
in
terms
of
East,
Falls,
Church
and
charity
plans
those
plans.
H
H
So
I'm
just
got
a
couple
more
slides
here,
which
has
to
do
with
the
implementation
strategies
for
the
policies
So.
The
plan
does
identify
a
number
of
strategies
and
actions
that
are
necessary
again
to
achieve
the
vision
and
the
housing
policy.
H
Some
of
these
will
be
done
concurrently
with
the
adoption
of
the
plan
in
a
couple
of
months,
which
include
establishing
the
Langston
Boulevard
planning
district,
adding
a
new
policy
to
the
glovebook
lit
with
the
vision
and
goals
removing
Parcels
within
the
Cherrydale
revitalization
District
that
are
adjacent
to
areas
where
Redevelopment
has
already
occurred
per
the
those
plans
goals
in
order
to
allow
for
expanded
housing
options
in
those
residential
edges
and,
lastly,
removing
the
HDD
designations
that
overlap
with
the
planning
district.
H
Since
we're
going
to
have
new
guidance
for
multi-family
residential
development
in
those
areas,
then,
following
the
adoption
of
the
plan,
we
will
be
adopting
glove
and
zoning
ordinance
amendments
to
enable
increased
density
and
expand
it
land
uses
be
beyond
what
the
current
policy
and
buy
right
zoning
allows.
We
will
also
be
identifying
appropriate
blood
designations
and
Zoning
tools
that
balance
the
you
know
the
two
important
goals
which
are
again
maintaining
marks
and
increasing
housing
supplying
calves
through
the
site
plan
process.
H
Additionally,
as
part
of
the
future
land
use
planning,
process,
staff
will
be
re-examining,
as
I
said,
the
Cherrydale
revitalization
plan
in
the
East
Falls
Church
plan
to
align
with
our
core
to
White
goals,
and
then
lastly,
I
will
mention
that,
based
on
again
additional
thinking
and
some
reason,
feedback
and
discussion
with
the
County
Board
this
week,
staff
will
continue
to
look
at
the
the
housing
policies
as
they're
in
the
plan
and
the
recommendations
to
building
more
clarity
for
our.
H
What
we're
trying
to
achieve
some
of
the
updates
are
going
to
focus
on
again
issues
related
to
preserving
marks
and
replacing
them
with
calves,
opportunities
for
home
ownership
for
households
of
lower
income,
again
supporting
households
earning
less
than
60
Ami
and
identifying
opportunities
for
non-profit
providers
to
work
collaboratively
with
with
the
county
and
provide
opportunities
for
housing.
So
that
concludes
my
presentation.
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions
and
with
me
from
staff,
are
Joel
Franklin
and
Richard
Tucker
as
well.
C
H
H
A
To
develop
this
plan,
but
before
we
open
it
up
to
questions
from
the
commission,
we're
going
to
have
public
comment
and
first
off
is
Jane
green.
K
Right,
hello,
everyone
is
being
green.
K
It's
in
Boulevard
that
is
accessible
and
vibrant
and
inclusive.
The
Langston
Boulevard
area
plan
has
the
potential
to
fulfill
the
goals
of
the
affordable
housing
master
plan
can
bring
more
geographic
distribution
to
our
affordable
housing.
We
can
balance
enrollments
across
Arlington
Public
Schools.
We
can
further
reduce
car
traffic
and
improve
multimodal
connectivity.
It's
density
that
allows
us
to
bring
more
people
and
more
amenities
to.
C
K
More
height
on
the
table
to
encourage
Redevelopment
under
the
plan
rather
than
by
right,
we
need
a
firm
timeline
for
updating
the
housing
opportunities
in
Cherrydale
and
in
East.
Falls
Church
on
the
community
overwhelmingly
supports
this
plan,
especially
if
you
wait
how
the
responses
are
that
to
match
Arlington's
demographics.
Overall
we've
heard
a
lot
more
from
homeowners
and
renters,
but
if
you
take
into
account
the
opinion
of
renters
overall
there's
additional
support
for
this
plan,
so
please
keep
going
and
pass
it.
L
A
L
A
L
All
right,
so
my
name
is
Jason
and
I.
Just
have
a
15-minute
walk
from
Langston,
Boulevard
and
I'm
just
going
to
talk
about
area
five,
because
to
me-
and
this
is
a
huge
spot-
that's
going
to
be
important
for
new
housing.
L
This
this
area
has
huge
potential
to
have
lots
of
new
housing
built
the
supply
needed
to
add
in
across
all
income
levels
and
especially
Supply,
to
get
to
the
2500
ahmp,
affordable
housing
unit
goal
so
area
five,
especially
in
the
Eastern
end,
is
right
by
Roslyn
Metro
station,
which
is
a
bottleneck
that
woman
is
planning
to
invest,
20
30
40
billion
dollars
over
the
next
couple
of
decades.
This
is
playing
efforts
that
have
been
already
in
place
for
a
couple
years
and
Romana
will
be
releasing
a
preferred
alternative.
L
A
locally
preferred
alternative
and
it
could
be.
Some
of
these
plans
are,
are
looking
to
invest
huge
amounts
to
my
20
and
therefore
the
housing
plan
in
area
5
and
especially
close
to
the
metro
station,
must
match
this
level
of
ambition.
It
would
be.
We
cannot
just
let
billions
of
dollars
of
investment
go
and,
just
you
know,
add
in
a
couple
of
stories
of
pipe.
You
know
the
Air
Force
Association,
for
example,
that
location
is
an
eight-minute
walk
to
Roswell
Metro
station,
and
it
is
also
a
15-minute
bike
ride
to
the
White
House.
L
You
know
of
the
of
the
United
States
of
America.
So
this
is,
you
know
some
close-in
areas
high
high
opportunity
areas
that
demand
high
intensity,
Tod
development.
This
entire
area
in
area
five
should
be
considered
as
an
extension
of
the
Ross
and
Boston
Corridor
in
terms
of
housing,
because
these
housing
units
are
within
the
multimodal
walk
bike
and
Transit
sheds
to
these
stations.
These
are
very
high
opportunity
areas
and
should
be
treated
as
such,
and
especially
the
heights
along
I-66.
There
was
no
housing
along
the
highways.
L
You
know
highways
as
and
and
large
main
roads
is
traditionally
where
high
intensity
development
goes.
Because
that's
where
you
know
no
one
is
there
to
stop
it.
No
one
is
there
to
oppose
it
because
no
one
lives
there.
L
You
know,
unfortunately,
that's
the
only
place
that
we,
you
know,
feel
that
it's
appropriate
to
build
housing,
even
though
we
should
be
building
housing
closer
to
where
our
amenity
centers
are
such
as
the
Metro,
but
that
gives
an
opportunity
to
actually
go
big
on
these
sites,
especially
in
lion,
Village
shopping
center
area
at
Spot,
Run
and
Kirkwood.
This
should
be
really
seriously
considered
north
of
15
stories,
especially
at
its
elevation.
L
So
I
really
want
to
encourage
Transit
oriented
development
along
these
corridors
and
make
sure
that
we
are
getting
the
housing
needed
because
other
areas
along
Langston
Boulevard
are
much
more
constrained.
So
when
we're
not
as
constrained
along
the
highways
and
close
to
our
Metro
stations,
where
there's
billions
of
dollars,
I
hope
to
see
a
lot
of
housing.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
attention.
Thank
you.
M
Good
evening
great,
my
name
is
Ryan
and
I
live
in
the
North
Highlands
neighborhood
of
Arlington
I,
read
in
the
news
today
that
the
world
just
experienced
the
hottest
three-month
period
on
record.
More
and
more
people
are
looking
for
ways
to
reduce
their
environmental
impact.
Their
carbon
footprint
I
have
been
living
along
the
Rosalind
Boston
Corridor
for
several
years
and
that
corridors
award-winning
urban
planning
has
enabled
me
to
live
without
a
car.
M
We
need
a
lot
more
housing
in
places
like
that,
so
that
a
lot
more
people
can
live
more
sustainably
and
if
we
hope
to
make
a
serious
dent
in
our
overall
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
we
need
more
places
like
the
Roslyn
Boston
Corridor.
Just
one
of
them
cannot
be
enough.
Langston
Boulevard,
if
it's
planned
well-
and
we
know
that
Arlington
has
a
record
of
planning.
These
things.
M
Well
has
the
potential
to
become
the
kind
of
place
that
can
facilitate
car
free
living,
and
so
it
should
urgently
the
more
housing
we
can
put
into
a
place
like
that.
The
fewer
cars
we'll
see
on
the
streets
and
the
better
off
we'll
all
be
I,
also
read
today
that
no
less
than
President
Biden
just
called
global
warming
even
more
frightening
than
a
nuclear
war.
That
makes
it
imperative
that
you
join
me
in
calling
for
as
much
housing
on
Langston
Boulevard.
As
you
can
imagine.
A
Thank
you
Brian.
Next
up,
we
have
comment
from
Hector,
Herrera,
I,
hope,
I
said
that
right
and.
N
I
That
is
great,
so
Hector
is
going
to
speak
and
if
you
can
translate
for
him,
that
would
be
great.
N
Yes,
if
I
can
just
give
him
some
instructions
so
that
he
stops
after
a
few
sentences,
so
I
can
interpret
sure.
I
N
G
G
N
G
N
G
G
N
G
G
N
G
N
So
I
do
not
think
that's
fair
in
today's
world
and
I
want
to
say
that
we
have
lived
here
for
20
years,
but
other
generations
of
Hispanics
have
lived
here
for
60
years
and
their
children
grew
up
here
in
Arlington,
but
they
cannot
afford
buying
a
house
here
in
Arlington,
so
they
have
to
live
with
their
parents.
Two
or
three
families
living
in
one
house.
G
N
So
the
families
that
have
studied
and
have
more
resources
they
can
expand
their
homes
and
add
rooms
to
the
house.
But
that
doesn't
look
that
great
in
Arlington
and
that's
something
that
the
county
should
be
looking
at.
G
N
G
G
N
So
lots
of
families
that
have
lived
here
in
Arlington
and
that
basically
grew
up
here
in
Arlington
want
to
stay
and
live
here,
but
now
they
have
to
look
for
basements
to
rent,
basements
and
I.
Do
not
think
that's
a
good
solution.
I
think
that
the
solution
is
to
build
2500
houses
for
low
income
families.
N
And
I
just
want
to
say
three
things
before
I
finish:
I
want
to
provide
three
examples:
the
first
one
it
was
an
older
member
of
the
Hispanic
Community.
He
is
an
older
man
and
he
had
to
move
away
from
Arlington
because
he
couldn't
afford
living
here
anymore.
So
now
he
lives
in
Stafford
Virginia
and
he
has
to
drive
an
hour
and
a
half
every
day
to
get
to
work
and
he
wants
to
come
back
to
his
community
here
in
Arlington,
but
he
cannot
afford
it.
G
N
Another
example
is
a
member
of
the
community,
his
name
is
Jason
Brandon
and
his
mother
needs
treatment
and
she
goes
to
the
hospital
in
Northern
Virginia,
but
now
because
he
cannot
afford
renting
an
apartment
here
in
Arlington.
He
has
to
move
far
away
so
he's
moving
to
Leesburg
with
his
family
and
that's
going
to
affect
his
mother,
because
now
how
many
times
is
she
gonna
be
able
to
go
to
the
northern
Virginia
hospital
because
she
suffers
from
diabetes
and
she
needs
that
treatment.
G
G
G
N
And
the
last
one
is
an
example
about
my
family,
my
family.
We
all
work
very
hard.
My
children,
they're
all
professional
adults.
One
is
a
doctor,
another
one
is
a
psychologist
and
even
though
they
work
very
hard,
they
cannot
afford
buying
a
house
here
in
Arlington,
so
they
have
to
rent
and
they
could
afford
living
in
a
larger
house
somewhere
else,
probably
far
away,
but
they
cannot.
O
Good
evening,
everyone
for
20
years,
my
family
and
I
have
lived
near
the
Langston
Boulevard
Corridor.
It's
our.
O
Our
go-to
for
shopping
dining
services,
and
so
what
happens
to
it,
matters
to
us
and
I
guess
I
would
say,
especially
to
my
26
year
old
daughters,
who
hope
to
be
able
to
live
in
Arlington
long
term.
One
day,
I
support
strongly
the
vision
in
the
plan
and
the
community
priorities
outlined.
But
if
we're
going
to
achieve
those
priorities
of
equity
sustainability,
resilience
livability,
we
do
need
to
act
now.
We
can't
push
this
off
while
I
support
the
plan.
O
O
So
this
plan
has
to
find
a
way
to
remain
consistent
with
that
Vision
in
the
affordable
housing
master
plan.
We
start
to
get
into
dangerous
territory
when
we
Tinker
here
and
there
and
say
well.
You
know
we'll
scale
back
a
little
here
because
we
have
to.
We
need
to
stay
consistent
to
that
Vision
if
we
expect
to
meet
those
goals,
including
equity.
O
So
we
have
to
look
at
market
rate
units.
We
have
to
look
at
committed,
affordable
units.
We
have
to
give
affordable
housing
providers,
particularly
non-profit
providers,
maximum
flexibility
to
do
what
they
do
best,
whether
it's
info
or
new,
and
that
may
mean
lot:
consolidation,
height
and
density
bonuses
or
co-location
of
housing
on
public
land.
We
also
have
to
sooner,
rather
than
later,
look
at
those
East,
Falls,
Church
and
Cherrydale
area
plans
to
see
how
those
align
with
this
and
Achieve
that
housing
goal
for
the
corridor.
O
We
can't
put
that
off
too
long
and
finally,
as
again,
you've
just
heard
from
Mr
Herrera.
We
need
to
recognize
that
there
are
people
making
less
than
60
percent
of
Ami
who
are
living
along
this
Corridor
and
and
and
will
be
living
along
this
Corridor,
because
development
is
going
to
occur
and
the
plan
needs
to
specifically
recognize
that
we
need
to
serve
those
people
at
up
to
60
percent
of
Ami
right
now.
It
says
at
60
of
Ami.
O
Overall,
the
plan
succeeds
in
integrating
the
community's
priorities
needs
and
preferences.
We
need
its
guidance,
we
need
the
incentives
and
the
plan.
Please
move
ahead
with
some
of
these
changes
to
the
housing
portions.
Thank.
A
B
Fine,
all
right
cool,
hey
y'all,
my
name
is
Clark
Abbott
I've
been
in
Arlington
for
one
year
now
and
I
really
love
this
community.
I
wanted
to
start
with,
thanking
you
all
for
all
the
work
you
do
about
supporting,
affordable
housing
in
Arlington.
Already
I
was
there
during
the
missing
middle
campaign
and
I
remembered
y'all's
recommendation.
You
made
it
to
the
housing
board
at
the
County
Board.
It
was
fantastic
and
it
really
helped
get
in
the
movement
going
and
pushed
it
across
the
finish
line.
So
I
really
want
to
say.
C
B
All
the
criteria
for
affordable
housing,
it's
great
for
the
environment,
it's
great
for
urban
planning,
I
think
we
should
push
that
everywhere.
You
know,
and
it's
like
seeing
that
along
nice
and
Boulevard
would
be
fantastic
and
I'm
really
I'm
really
excited
we're
doing
some
research
into
it.
What
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
and
design
and
activist
hip
folks
is
we
want
to
push
for
to
meet
our
goal
of
2500,
affordable.
C
C
B
Folks
living
there
sooner
rather
than
later,
you
know
I
didn't
use
much
of
my
time.
Thank.
A
E
E
We
also
believe
that
it's
very
important
to
move
stretch
I
also
want
to
speak
a
little
bit
as
a
former
member
of
the
task
force
that
developed
with
the
county.
The
affordable
housing
master
plan
back
in
2015
I
was
an
appointed
member
of
that
task.
Force
and
I
want
to
speak
specifically
to
the
2500
number
that
2500
has
to
be
considered
absolute
minimum
anything
less
than
that
is
really
not
acceptable
for
a
couple
reasons.
One.
E
We
have
to
be
consistent
with
the
that
plan
that
affordable
housing
master
plan,
if
we're
not
going
to
do
that,
I
spend
all
that
time
in
community
energy,
but
also
there's
more
to
that
number.
At
the
time
of
that
plan,
you
all
need
to
remember.
Geographic
distribution
of
poverty
of
low-income
families
and
low-income
housing
was
a
big
concern
in
the
community,
both
South
and
I.
E
E
We
achieve
that
and,
moreover,
that
geographic
distribution,
a
question,
is
not
just
an
Arlington
questions
everywhere
and
to
remind
you
all
as
part
of
the
fair
housing
act,
we
are
as
a
jurisdiction
actually
legally
legally
required
forces
that
were
legally
required
to
to
look
at
my
old
notes
to
pursue
affirmative
furthering
of
air
housing,
that
is
to
say,
we
have
to
make
sure
our
plans
actually
assure
a
fair
distribution
of
assured
access
to
affordability
across
the
whole
County,
not
just
where
everybody
agrees.
To
put
it
so
I
think
it's
very
important.
C
A
Can
you
can
you
reiterate
again,
so
the
existing
plan
is
estimating.
C
A
Where
the
county
is
not
going
to
meet
the
2500
goal,
but
it
is
estimating
that
we'll
partially
meet
that
by
2075..
Can
you
reiterate
what
that
number
of
affordable
units
is
by
2075.
H
Sure
so
we
just
find
that
slide
again.
I,
don't
have
it
all
memorized,
yes,
so,
based
on
our
analysis
and
again
we're
going
to
be
refining
these
numbers
because
we're
going
to
be
doing,
you
know
more
in-depth
analysis
of
some
sites
and
and
also
working
in
some
of
the
tools
that
we're
considering
to
see
if
this
number
is
is
true
or
if
we
could
actually
get
more.
H
A
Q
A
I
I
think
we're
talking
about
a
completely
different
County
at
that
point,
with
most
people
who
live
here
now,
if
her
very
elderly
awarded
and
for
planning
purposes,
I
feel
like
it's
just
stretching
it
too
far
to
go
out
50
plus
years
I
I
think
the
2040
number
is
probably
the
one
that
realistically
we
can
communicate
on.
So
I
have
a
little
bit
of
hesitation
around
just
throwing
out.
Well,
you
know
50
plus
years
from
now.
This
is
what
we
think
we'll
have
knowing.
A
Things
are
going
to
change
by
that
point.
I
agree
with
many
of
the
comments
that
we
heard
that
we
do
need
to
to
try
to
at
least
meet
the
goal.
That
was.
C
A
The
2015,
affordable
housing
master
plan
of
2500
units
I
know
a
lot
of
people
have
said
to
do
that.
We
need
to
look
at
the
Cherrydale
area
as
well
as
East,
Falls,
Church
and
I.
Think
East
Falls
Church
with
the
plan
that's
currently
in
place.
My
understanding
is
it
sort
of
failed
to
to
actually
promote
any
of
the
development
that
that
we
thought
it
would
and
it
hasn't.
It
has
not
been
a
successful
planning,
effort
and
I
feel
like
that.
A
One
in
particular
is
especially
because
it's
literally
a
Metro
site
that
we
need
to
look
at
revising
that
ASAP
so
that
we
don't
have
single-family
homes
built
being
built
across
from
Metro
stations,
because
it
just
doesn't
make
sense
in
this
community
and
it's
a
complete
waste
of
our
land
use
and
resources
as
a
community.
A
So
that's
definitely
something
that
I
think
is
is
important
and
I
Echo.
What
we've
heard
from
a
lot
of
our
speakers,
public
comment
on
that
I
had
another
question.
Going
back
to
the
equity
framework
that
the
Housing
Commission
had
adopted
this
summer,
I
was
hoping
that
you
could
provide
some
more
detail
about
the
consultation
efforts
throughout
the
planning
process,
with
historically
marginalized
populations.
A
The
planning
process
efforts
to
engage
specifically
with
populations
that
the
County
Board
has
identified
as
historically.
A
And
part
of
our
overall,
not
just
racial
Equity,
but
overall
Equity,
you
know
framework
for
the
county.
H
Sure
sure
so,
we've
done
a
number
of
different
things
of
ways
from
the
beginning.
In
the
process
we've
met
continuously
with
different
civic
association
representatives
and
many
times
we
went
to
their
civic
association
meetings,
and
you
know
many
of
those
populations
are
part
of
those
Civic
associations.
So
that's
one
thing:
we've
done
during
the
language
scenario
analysis
and
then,
most
recently,
after
the
after,
when
we
presented
the
PCP,
if
you
recall
the
preliminary
concept
plan,
we
held
a
number
of
forget
what
they're
called
pop-up.
H
Let's
say:
pop-up
stations
like
the
county
has
done,
let's
say
for
the
transportation
analysis
when
we're
working
on
the
plan
and
all
of
that
we
held
a
number
of
pop-up
stations
at
many
of
the
affordable
housing
sites
along
the
corridor,
so
like
lucky,
Gardens,
Larkspur
and
Calvert
Manor,
where
we
in
you
know
in
an
evening
we
showed
up
and
we
provided
material
in
in
Spanish
as
well
as
in
English.
Just
you
know,
verbally
to
be
able
to
engage
that
Community
and
try
to
meet
them.
H
You
know
at
a
time
that
they
were
available.
Most
of
them
were
working
late.
So,
of
course,
they
were
there
in
the
evenings,
but
that
was
one
way
that
we
tried
to
do
that.
The
other
is,
you
know
we
have
an
extensive
database
of
all
the
property
management
managers
of
all
of
the
apartment
properties
along
the
corridor
and
we
extensively
sent
out
information
to
them,
engaging
them
and
inviting
them
to
the
to
the
meetings
that
we
were
holding.
So
that
was
another
way
that
we
did,
that.
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
additional
information.
Can
you
talk
about
again,
looking
through
the
equity
lens?
How
Boulevard,
if
it
were
to
be
implemented,
would
impact
the
disability
Community?
A
H
As
we
know,
there's
areas
that
have
you
know
photography
challenges
that
that
there
are
a
lot
of
connectivity
barriers
and
so
just
speaking
specifically
now
about
connectivity
and
then
we'll
talk
about
the
housing,
and
you
know,
units
and
buildings
and
how
those
are
designed,
but
I
mean
in
terms
of
the
public
spaces.
H
We
have
a
lot
of
issues
with
connectivity,
and
so
this
plan
really
tries
to
establish
new
ways
that
people
can
connect,
which
is
what
we
call
Greenways
and
that
provides
opportunities
for
people
of
all
modes
to
be
able
to
connect
physically
to
public
spaces
and
and
amenities
and
services
along
the
quarter.
H
So
that's
a
big
part
of
our
sort
of
multimodal
policy
for
the
corridor
and
then,
if
you
look
at
a
little
bit
more
closely
at
our
public
spaces
policies,
we
are
recommending,
particularly
in
areas
where
you're
close
to
Trails,
to
improve
those
public
spaces.
You
know
near
the
entrances
so
that
they
can
actually
be
re-graded
and
accessible
for
you
know,
Ada
accessible
because
I
don't
know
if
you're
familiar,
but
in
area.
Five
West,
which
is
North
Highlands.
H
There
are
a
couple
of
locations
where
you
can
access
the
custis
trail
that
are
really
difficult
for
people
who
are
disabled,
and
so
the
plan
recognizes
that
and
encourages
that
through
the
policy
that,
as
new
development
comes
in,
that
they
actually
improve
those
connections
in
terms
of
the
the
buildings
per
se.
We
know
that
a
lot
of
the
housing
stock
in
the
quarter
is
pretty
old.
H
Many
of
the
garden
style,
Apartments
have
no
elevators,
you
know
there.
They
just
have
to
be
upgraded
in
a
number
of
different
ways.
H
Just
to
bring
things
up
to
code
is
particularly
for
Ada
accessibility
and
so
this
plan,
by
by
providing
incentives
for
some
of
those
sites
to
redevelop
There's
an
opportunity
to
improve
the
housing
stock
there
to
create
places
that
again
can
provide
housing
on
the
ground
level.
Let's
say
for
for
people
who
are
disabled,
and
so
without
Redevelopment.
You
can't
really
change
the
sort
of
the
the
the
problems
that
we
have
there,
and,
and
so
we
need
that
in
order
to
create
newer
buildings
that
are
up
to
code.
R
Since
you
are
on
the
topic,
I'm
I
want
to
say
first
that
when
I
came
to
Northern,
Virginia
and
I
at
first
lived
in
in
central
McLean
and
the
place
we
chose
was
chosen
because
as
a
person
with
disability
who
doesn't
drive
and
and
a
large
majority
of
people
with
disabilities,
whether
they're
fiscal
disability,
sensory
disabilities
are
cognitive
and
other
disabilities,
don't
drive.
R
R
We
would
go
over
there
all
the
time
when
I
needed
to
move
I
wanted
to
come
into
Arlington
and
looked
over
at
a
number
of
places
on
Langston
Boulevard,
and
you
know
at
least
at
the
time,
with
the
modest
salary
that
I
had
as
as
a
librarian
and
an
engineering
firm,
I
I
couldn't
afford
it
and
and
I
had
to
purchase
where
I
could
afford.
In
fact,
I
was
very
close
to
a
Cherrydale
location
on
old.
R
The
the
older
portion
of
Langston
Boulevard
called
the
highway
at
the
time,
so,
but
the
potential
here
for
making
a
for
for
putting
in
affordable
housing
that
is
accessible
and
accessible
to
public
transportation,
because
Banks
and
Boulevard
is
Rich
with
public
transportation
compared
to
many
locations
is
very
important.
It's
awesome.
R
For
people
who
are
engaged
in
in
essential
jobs
and
and
need
to
connect
to
the
subway
and
go
into
DC
or
go
out
to
Fairfax
or
whatever,
and
so
I'm
wondering
listening
to
the
questions
that
Cher
has
asked
whether
there
are
incentives
that
can
be
built
into
this
plan
that
may
go
beyond
the
usual
incentives
and
and
and
and
programs
and
tools
that
are
in
the
affordable
housing
master
plan
to
use
those.
But
to
also
look
at
some
expansion
to
increase.
R
The
number
of
affordable
units
should
definitely
increase
the
number
of
X
and
percentage
of
accessible
units
that
are
fully
accessible
and
and
not
just
the
idea
of
modifying,
because
there
is
value
in
that
and
it's
important
to
use
tools
for
accessibility
modification,
but
but
we
have
an
area
in
Langston
Boulevard.
That
is,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
old,
older
commercial.
R
One
of
the
things
that
came
up
at
the
the
I
guess
it
was
whether
it's
like
playing
video,
it
was
long-range
planning
meetings
on
Langston
Boulevard
was
should
became
the
corridor
as
as
a
very,
very
rich
Transportation
Corridor,
but
that
improvements
are
really
really
necessary
in
pedestrian
infrastructure
and
needs
to
be
very
highlighted
and
to
make
the
neighborhood
liberal
for
people
with
disabilities,
and
the
other
thing
I
think
to
connect
to
is
that
the
county
may
want
want
to
make
part
of
its
objectives
or
goals
is
to
connect
to
Ramada,
for
example,
out
there
in
East,
Falls
Church,
because
there's
a
lot
of
talk,
I
do
Transportation
advocacy
as
well
and
there's
there's
a
lot
of
talk
in
the
transportation
industry,
about
and
and
and
and
public
officials
about
utilizing
Metro
stations
for
affordable
and
accessible
housing.
R
R
C
R
Also
links
to
jobs
in
the
pain
at
Tysons
and
hanging
out
to
to
hold
industrial
center,
that's
out
there
and,
at
the
other
end
to
Christmas
City,
that's
the
best
transportation
orders.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
I'm
wondering
if
you're
looking
at
that
and
I'm
wondering
if
you
could
come
back
to
commission
with
with
some
thoughts
about
enhancing
or
emphasizing
that.
T
Yeah
good
evening,
everyone
I'm
Bruce,
we're
talking
about
the
housing
division.
I.
Think
Ms
Ray
raises
a
point
that
we
hear
often
and
even
Mr
leepsen
as
well.
You
know
how
do
we
get
more
of
what
we
want
and
I'm,
not
sure
that
you
know
a
plan
like
the
Langston
Boulevard
plan
is
the
place
to
you,
know,
contemplate
and
and
and
put
in
such
incentives.
T
If
there
are
any
I
think
we
really
need
to
take
a
closer
look
at
the
zoning
ordinance,
because
if
we
want
more
accessible
units
or
more
affordable
units,
we
don't
just
want
them
on
Langston
Boulevard.
We
want
them
in
all
of
our
planning
areas.
So
you
know
that
point
is
you
know,
but
take
that
with
us,
but
I
think
the
the
solutions
are
within.
You
know
in
considering
the
zoning
ordinance
and
not
necessarily
the
language.
That's
in
the
plan,
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
ground
covered
with
the
plan.
So
I
want
to.
T
You
know,
agree
with
you
all,
but
I
think
there's
a
there's
a.
There
are
other
ways
to
address
that
are
better
ways
to
address
that.
R
Landscape
there,
that
you
know
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
that
at
various
points
along
Langston,
Boulevard
is
already
accessible
land.
R
A
A
Source
Paul
I
think
I
saw
you
again
next
yeah.
U
I
had
a
couple
of
questions.
First
about
the
omission
exclusion
of
Cherrydale
from
the
plan.
Is
that
simply
a
lack
of
capacity
or
is
it
was
it
intentionally
excluded
because
it
was
previously
planned.
H
It
wasn't
because
sure
well,
the
work
plan
itself
is
a
discussion.
That's
held
annually
with
a
County
board.
So
it's
something
that
we
intend
to
bring
up
for
sure.
H
But
it
wasn't
because
staff
we
didn't
have
the
staff
resources
to
look
at
it.
It
was
mainly
because
I
mean
we
did
look
at
certain
aspects
of
Cherrydale
and
East
Falls
Church.
H
We
looked
at
the
transportation,
the
public
space
sort
of
opportunities
and
how
those
could
align
with
the
corridor
white
goals,
but
we
recognize
that
those
areas
have
adopted
plans
and
we
know
that
we're
going
to
need
to
have
further
conversations
with
those
communities,
because
some
of
the
recommendations
that
when
we
were
looking
at
the
transportation
and
the
parks
and
open
space,
we
realized
that
we
need
more
density
there,
too,
more
height.
H
And
so
we
can't
just
make
that
decision
as
part
of
a
cohort
or
wide
sort
of
analysis
and
decision
that
we're
making
for
the
rest
of
the
quarter
without
really
having
more
conversations
with
those
communities
respecting
that
they
that
they
already
went
through
a
process.
They
had
already
thought
about
height
in
in
those
areas,
and
so
we
just
felt
that
we
needed
to
go
back.
We
need
to
come
back
to
them
in
a
separate
setting
and
have
a
more
targeted
conversation
and
particularly
Now
That
We
Know
Better.
U
It's
like
their
incentives
that
they
have
now
are
not
strong
enough,
and
so
something
needs
to
happen.
So
I
would
encourage
you
to
pursue
that
as
quickly
as
possible.
The
second
question
is
about
the
the
overall
number
of
units
within
the
entire
plan.
Area
Housing
units
that
you
anticipate
might
be
produced
in,
of
course,
the
percentage
or
the
share
of
those
that
affordable
housing
might
represent.
F
H
So
if
I
have
the
numbers
correct
correctly,
I
don't
have
it
on
a
slide.
Unfortunately,
but
next
time
we
can
bring
that
information
based
on
the
the
affordable
housing
master
plan
goal
for
2500.
That
would
have
represented
about
11
percent
of
the
county-wide
sort
of
share
of
of
units
in
this
quarter.
H
When
we
did
our
numbers-
and
we
said
okay,
you
know
if
it,
what
can
we,
what
what
do
we
think
can
actually
be
accomplished
along
the
court
or
that
that
percentage
went
down
to
about
seven
percent
because
we
just
couldn't
meet
the
2500?
And
it's
certainly
not
something
that
we're
proud
of
I
mean
we.
We
want
to
see
more
in
this
part
of
of
Arlington,
but,
yes,
the
share
will
proportionately
be
lower.
If
we
cannot
accomplish
or
accommodate.
You
know
the
number
of
units
that
we're
hoping
so.
H
So
referring
to
the
county-wide
plan,
Corridor
and
areas
outside
of
the
planning,
Corridor
have
a
targeted,
let's
say
number
of
units
to
help
meet
the
need
by
2040
length
and
share
of
that
total
number,
and
maybe
my
my
colleagues
in
housing
can
can
help
chime
in
with
that
number.
It's
it's
I
forget
how
many
exactly
but
Arlington's
share
lands
and
Boulevard's
share
was
about
11
percent
of
that
total
number,
and
so
obviously,
if
we
can't
meet
the
2500,
that
quarter
is
just
going
to
contribute
to
a
smaller
share.
U
H
H
That's
that's
what
it
is.
It's
1200
out
of
10
000..
So
it's
really
not
it's
not
bad
for
the
quarter,
but
that's
just
the
net
new.
When
you
compare
it
to
the
total
number
of
units
that
could
be
potential
on
the
quarter
which
which
is
around
20,
000.
I,
think
the
corridor
has
right
now
close
to
10
000
plus
units.
Another
10
000
makes
it.
You
know
twenty
thousand
twenty
one
thousand
units,
and
so
it's
proportionally
smaller,
so
1200
out
of
twenty
thousand
units.
A
P
First,
a
comment
you
know,
given
all
that
we've
heard
about
the
need
to
increase
the
number
of
affordable
units
in
the
plan.
P
I
would
suggest
that
we
write
a
letter
to
the
County
Board,
even
before
the
request
to
advertise
with
some
of
these
suggestions
and
finding
ways
that
we
can
achieve
that
number
of
2500
and
from
my
understanding,
one
of
the
ways
to
do
that
is
to
increase
the
maximum
height
allowing
allowed
and
I
guess.
My
question
with
that
is:
what
is
the
current
number
of
stories
that
would
be
allowed
in
the
plan?
I.
C
H
Sure
so
in
area
two,
which
is
the
Western
end,
that
ranges
between
five
and
seven
at
the
key
intersections
like
Harrison
and
George
George
Mason
is
actually
a
little
lowers
at
six
in
area
three,
which
is
Waverly
Hills
the
portion.
That's
like
Waverly
Hills
to
part
of
Cherrydale.
That
ranges
between
five
to
ten
stories.
10
stories
is,
you
know,
mostly
concentrated
in
the
area
around
the
Lehigh
shops,
lucky
Gardens.
H
If
you're
familiar
with
that
geography
and
then
area
five
West,
which
is
North
Highlands,
there
is
more
capacity
there
just
because
of
the
again
the
proximity
to
I-66
and
there's
just
so
much
space,
so
much
distance
between
the
the
low
density
residential
edges
that
we
go
as
high
as
15
stories
there
and
then
in
area
5
East,
which
is
near
Roslyn
near
the
Air
Force
Association
site
and
park.
Georgetown,
that's
between
five
and
ten
stories.
A
Natasha,
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
why
the
residential
edges
were
dropped
from
the
plan?
It
seems
like
a
real,
missed
opportunity.
H
So
you
you
remember
that
we
did
a
few
scenario
analysis
two
years
ago
or
so
before.
Before
we
put
out
the
preliminary
concept
plan,
we
did
a
whole
analysis
of
the
of
the
sort
of
development
scenarios
that
are
possible
along
the
corridor
and
there
were
two
sort
of
options
for
each
neighborhood
area.
One
was
a
lower
height
scenario.
The
other
one
was
the
high
taller
height
scenario
and
at
that
time,
even
with
the
lower
height
scenario
we
had
anticipated
or
considered,
including
a
lot
of
the
residential
edges.
H
A
lot
of
the
single
family
detached
lots
of
budding
the
commercial
Parcels
along
Langston,
because
we
know,
if
particularly
in
area
two,
that
those
commercial
Parcels
are
very
shallow,
there's
just
not
enough
room
to
build
anything
substantial.
So
we
had
included
those
lots
and
then,
through
the
conversations
with
the
community,
the
feedback
that
we
heard
was
there
was
just
no
from
the
communities
there
for
showing
more
change
in
the
low
density
residential
edges
in
the
single
family
areas.
H
There
was
concern
that
you
know
by
doing
so,
it
was
going
to
increase
property
values,
therefore
increase
taxes
that
it
would
bring
more
traffic
into
the
neighborhood
and
so
forth.
So
when
we
presented
the
preliminary
concept
plan,
we
decided
to
take
out
most
of
the
residential
edges,
with
the
exception
of
a
few
areas
near
like
where
it
was
really
where
it
is
really
critical.
H
Let's
say
at
Key
intersections
that
without
those
lots
there
would
just
be
no
improvements
to
those
intersections,
no
changes
in
terms
of
new
development,
and
so
that's
why
you
see
the
limited
areas
that
are
in
the
plan
now.
A
Did
did
the
Neighbors
who
Express
concern
about
raising
or
Rising
property
values,
and
taxes
also
complain
about
the
addition
of
like
green
space
and
trees
and
other
things
that
raise
property
values
and
make
it
a
more
livable
and
nicer
area?
Or
was
it
just
specifically
these
these
issues
that
they
had
concerns
about.
H
It
was
like
I
would
say,
you
know
there
are
people
who
obviously
don't
want
any
change,
they're
perfectly
fine
with
the
street
the
way
it
is.
You
know
they
don't
necessarily
think
that
they're
bringing
in
this
level
of
density
to
make
those
improvements
is
worth
the
trade-off.
That's
just
you
know,
that's
just
how
some
people
think
there
are
others
who
are
kind
of
in
the
middle
who
say
you
know
we
need
more
Parks.
H
We
need
more
amenities,
more
services,
we
need,
you
know
a
community
center
and
all
these
other
things,
but
we
don't
want
it
in
exchange
for
for
height,
and
we
don't
want
the
private
sector
to
be
the
one.
You
know
we
don't
want
to
give
the
the
private
sector,
the
the
you
know.
The
ability
to
do
that,
and
then
there
are
others
who
are
I
would
say
are
more
find
that
there
are
balanced
ways
to
do
it.
A
Thank
you
other
questions.
Q
H
So
we
I
don't
know
if
you
are
familiar
with
the
historic
and
cultural
resources
survey
that
we
did
about
I'm
going
to
say
now,
two
or
three
years
ago,
at
the
beginning
of
the
process,
we
went
out
and
surveyed
over
120
properties
along
the
quarter
that
had
never
been
surveyed
before,
and
we
didn't
just
look
at
buildings.
We
also
looked
at
resources
that
contribute
to
sort
of
the
history.
H
The
Narrative
of
the
quarter
include
especially
Legacy
businesses,
so
we
looked
at
African-American
resources,
resources
related
to
the
Civil,
War
and
and
a
whole
list
of
different
categories,
but
Legacy
businesses
was
one
of
them,
and
so
when
we
were
looking
at
the
preservation
strategies
in
the
report
in
the
plan,
we
evaluated
a
lot
of
different
factors,
and
that
was
one
of
them,
which
had
we
looked
at
seven
different
factors
we
looked
at
you
know:
are
these
resources
contributing
to
sort
of
the
narrative?
Is
it
the
architectural
history
and
so
forth?
H
And
so
the
businesses
have
always
been
a
central
part
for
us,
but
we
recognize
that
you
know
businesses
by
themselves.
You
know
they're
not
always
necessarily
the
owners
of
the
buildings
that
they're
in
so
while
we
want
to
recognize
businesses
and
we
want
to
sort
of
Honor
them
and
the
Legacy
that
they've
had
along
the
border
and
remember
them.
We
recognize
that
sometimes
we
just
have
to
use
methods
like
interpretation
on
site
or
nearby,
where
you
can
do
that
through
public
art.
You
can
do
it
through.
Q
Thanks
I
would
just
encourage
you
and
staff
to
come
up
with
concrete,
intentional
plans
to
preserve
those
Legacy,
Buildings
or
Legacy
businesses.
I
think
we
all
know
that
without
that
type
of
intentionality
those
Legacy
businesses
are
just
going
to
go,
they'll
be
forever
gone,
so
I
would
like
to
just
see
a
little
bit
more
intentionality
around
the
plan.
Instead
of
you
know
kind
of
hoping
for
the
best.
Q
Maybe
there
are
other
things
that
we
could
do
and
then
my
last
question
is
just
around
60
Ami
I
didn't
hear
any
commitments
on
zero
to
60
and
just
lifting
up
the
geographic
distribution
that
we
heard
earlier.
Are
there
any
plans
for
zero
to
sixty,
or
is
it
only
60
80
100
120.
H
I
was
surprised
to
hear
that
that
people
were
reading
the
plan
as
though
we
were
starting
at
60
percent
like
we
were
saying
at
60.
So
we
have
to
go
back
and
make
sure
that
we're
not
saying
that
in
the
plan,
because
our
intention
is
to
is
to
look
at
the
whole
gamma
starting
from
zero.
All
the
way
past
60
right,
so
we're
gonna
go
back
and
make
sure
that
we
address
those
policies
and
if
we've
made
any
references
like
that
to
correct
them,
because
it's
it
that
was
not
Our
intention.
H
A
Natasha
during
the
board
of
work
session,
they
talked
about
wanting
to
preserve
marks
along
the
corridor.
I
was
just
curious.
What
types
of
things
could
potentially
go
in
the
plan
around
Mark
preservation?
That's
not
something
that
I
feel
like
the
county
typically
engages
in
it's
more
cap
development.
If
you
have
any
information
about
that,
it'd
be
helpful.
H
So
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
tap
my
colleagues
here
either
Joel
or
Richard.
It
is
something
that
we're
looking
at
more
closely
now:
Richard
yeah.
T
Sure,
as
Natasha
just
said,
we're
continuing
to
look
at
that
one
of
the
I'll
just
mention
this
as
an
aside
as
we
think
about
preserving
marks.
T
If
there
are
incentives-
and
this
is
part
of
the
questions
that
were
asked
at
the
work
session,
if
they're
incentives-
then
there's
a
you
know,
there's
a
expectational
requirement
that
there's
affordability
commitment.
So
then
the
marks
then
become
calves.
T
They
could
be
80
cash
instead
of
60
calves,
but
they're
they're
calves,
they're
committed
and
I
just
want
to
mention
that
during
our
conversations
some
of
you
may
recall,
we
worked
on
the
housing
Conservation
District
and
which
is
now
called
multi-family
reinvestment
study
and
a
lot
of
our
conversations
with
a
lot
of
these
Property
Owners
they're.
Not
necessarily
they
haven't
expressed
an
interest
in
requirements,
so
I
think
it's
hard
we're
still
trying
to
figure
out
we're
still
looking
in
the
next
calendar
year
to
bring
back
or
restart
our
multi-family
reinvestment
study.
T
But
we'll
have
conversations
about
how
do
we
structure
incentives
that
the
property
owners
actually
want
to
use
so
I
put
that
out
there,
for
you
know
just
as
a
teaser
for
those
upcoming
conversations.
Perhaps
next
year.
R
Doors
I
just
was
sitting
here,
thinking
that
to
ask
you
if
there
are
any
parallels
or
lessons
to
be
learned
about
developing,
you
know
redeveloping
developing
a
a
an
older
neighborhood
to
include
more
density
and
stuff
from
the
city
of
Falls
Church
and
the
development
along
West
Broad,
leading
up
to
the
metro
station
in
West,
Falls
Church,
as
well
as
in
the
other
direction.
R
Each
because
now
East
Broad
is
is
being
developed
in
terms
of
you
know,
financing
and
development
and
make
and
trying
to
make
sure
that
there's
affordable
housing
and
housing
that's
accessible
and
Senior
housing
and
such
that
was
the
question.
Or
do
you
see
that
that
there
aren't
lessons
to
be
learned
and
maybe
we're
doing
it
in
Arlington,
better.
T
Well,
I
I
see
that
David
Tarter
is
in
the
meeting
at
and
he
always
says
to
me
that
they
steal
their
ideas
from
us.
D
Oh
really
Richard
good
to
see
you
again.
It's
been
a
while
I
caught
the
last
half
of
the
question
of
my
apologies,
so
I
I
have
a
little
involvement
in
Falls,
Church
and
I,
see
that
Richard
has
past
the
autonomy.
What
was
your
question?
Ma'am
I'm
here
actually
on
a
Case,
a
couple
down
the
agenda
item.
But
what
was
your
question
again?
Please.
R
Okay,
what
what
I
was
just
wondering
is:
there's
been
a
lot
of
development
along
West,
Broad,
Street
and
and
now
now
East
Broad
in
the
city
of
Falls,
Church
and
as
I
think
about
it.
More
there's
also
been
both
commercial
and
residential
development
near
East,
Falls
Church
station
in
the
fall
in
the
city,
so
I'm
just
wondering
whether
there
are
you
know
lessons
for
Arlington
to
learn,
maybe
adapt,
maybe
not
adapt.
You
know
positives
and
negatives.
R
Regarding
the
development
that's
going
on
over
there
because
recently,
I
was
I
was
over
there
to
look,
for
example,
at
some
of
the
the
new
apartment
buildings
and
and
the
senior
buildings
and
such
that
are
that
are
there
that
were
never
there
before
and
it
was.
You
know
it
was
a
very
quaint
kind
of
residential
neighborhood,
and
now
it's
becoming
much
more
dense
and
I'm,
just
wondering
whether
there
are
both
positive
and
negatives
to
what
they're
doing
and
whether
some
of
that
might
apply
to
Frankston
Boulevard.
D
Sure
so
I
I
don't
want
to
interject
into
your
deliberation
about
Langston,
Boulevard
I
would
just
say
in
Falls
Church
a
we
have
put
a
lot
more
housing
in
areas
that
we
think
are
appropriate
for
particularly
Transit
oriented
development.
There's
a
development
near
our
high
school,
which
is
near
the
West
Falls
Church
Metro,
which
actually
technically
is
in
Fairfax
County,
but
we've
got
a
pretty
high
density
development
there
of
16
stories
is
the
cap.
D
We
have
some
very
small,
we
call
them
micro
units,
so
we
have
a
series
of
I
can't
remember
how
many
won
maybe
200
unit
building.
It
has
micro
units
really
small
units,
I,
don't
remember
the
GFA
average
CFA,
but
the
idea
there
was
to
have
a
different
kind
of
housing
stock,
and
so
those
are
under
construction
right
now.
We
also
at
the
whole
food
site,
which
is
on
the
other.
It's
the
intersection
of
Langston
Boulevard.
We
call
it
Washington,
Street
and
Broad
Street.
D
The
city
actually
bought
some
additional
adus
in
the
bill
from
the
developer,
so
we
increase
the
number
of
adus
committed
adus
calves
in
that
building
to
approximately
10
percent.
By
actually
the
city
kicking
in
some
money
to
essentially
buy
some
units
ourselves,
so
we've
tried
some
Innovative
things
to
get
new
housing
types.
D
We
are
right
now
considering
some
zoning
changes
that
would
increase
density
along
some
portions
of
our
streets
as
well,
so
I
mean
I
think
that
the
key
isn't
for
us
is
try
to
connect
to
Transit
as
best
we
can
and
put
density
where
Transit
is
close
by
such
as
near
the
West
Falls
Church
metro
station.
But
we
certainly
look
forward
to
learning
from
you
all
and
maybe
there's
some
things
you
all
might
perchance
learn
from
us
as
well.
A
Thanks
David
for
jumping
in
there
sure
so,
I
think
that
that
will
be
our
last
question.
I
I
do
like
Katie's
recommendation
that
we
write
a
letter
based
on
what
we've
discussed
and
the
feedback
that
we
have
had
today.
A
A
So
that
we
do
think
the
county
needs
to
prioritize
meeting
the
affordable
housing
master
plan,
goal
of
2
500
units
and
not
on
a
timeline
where
everyone
who
currently
lives
here
is
dead
and
that
they
need
to
revisit
the
Cherrydale
and
the
East
Falls
Church
plants
and
Doris
had
brought
up.
You
know
looking
at
incentives
for
additional
accessibility
along
the
corridor.
Are
there
other
things
that
you
all
wanted
to
include
in
that.
Q
Q
Here,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
more
in
the
public
and
then
also
just
I
personally
I,
don't
know
if
my
Commissioners
would
agree
but
would
like
to
just
see
firmer
commitments
on
preserving
the
Legacy
Buildings
along
the
corner.
Let's.
A
Q
Of
those
businesses
have
been
around
when
that
you
know,
for
example,
that
fire
station
up
there
they
serve
like
those
volunteer,
firefighters
right,
some
of
those
businesses,
yeah
yeah.
It's
just
other
like
little
unique
stories
like
that
I
think
our
community
will
lose
out
on
if
we
don't
have
a
firmer
commitment.
P
If
we
could
include
recommending
to
raise
the
maximum
Heights
of
these
buildings,
I
would
suggest
much
Beyond
five
to
seven
stories,
maybe
10
15
stories
so
that
that
that
will
allow
us
to
reach
that
goal
of
2500,
affordable
units
through
bonus
density,
as
well
as
helping
with
some
of
these
climate
priorities
and
just
kind
of
overall
help.
The
goals.
V
F
O
I
C
F
R
I
was
just
thinking
that
that
also
you
know,
Cherrydale,
Health
and
Rehab
was
was
selected
selected
when
they
first
opened
selected
that
site
and
Cherrydale,
so
that
it
would
be
part
of
the
community,
because
for
a
long
time
you
know
many
nursing
homes
just
kept
separate
and
hidden
and
such
and
I
I
was
just
and
I
was
thinking
about
the
new
site
plan
that
went
through
for
the
development
there
at
where,
where
the
extension
of
Lexington
Boulevard,
you
know,
goes
around
the
whole
abortion
right
right.
There.
R
World
road,
yeah
and,
and
and
so
I'm
thinking
as
we're
developing
that
also
including
the
idea
of
some
percentage
of
affordable
senior
housing
that
that
could
be
that
could
be
built
in
that
area
and
and
people
who
live
in
Arlington.
Seniors
who
live
in
Arlington
might
have
an
opportunity
to
stay
in
Arlington.
Rather
than
going
out
to
some
place
like
Annandale
or
Fairfax,
or
something.
A
I
think
he
was
circulated
in
the
the
written
comments
that
the
commission
was
asking
the
board
to
prioritize
a
have
money
for
Langston
Boulevard
in
the
future,
since
AF
is
very
underfunded
and
currently
all
the
money
is
going
towards
existing
projects
that
have
already
been
committed
to
I.
Have
my
doubts
about
how
effective
that
could
be.
But
is
that
something
that
we
want
to
explore?
Putting
the
letter
along
with
raising
ahead,
but.
A
F
A
I
mean
we
could
more
generally
just
say:
the
county
should
prioritize,
adding
affordable
housing
to
the
corridor
through
the
public
partnership.
Whatever
means
makes
the
most
sense,
I
think
that
makes
sense.
Okay,.
P
Along
with
that
last,
one
I
think
clarifying
is
that
you
know
be
possibilities
for
these
non-profits
to
build,
affordable
housing
for
co-location
and
consolidating
lots.
P
Yeah
cool
vacation
with
like
public
facilities.
A
Okay,
anything
else.
P
A
Year,
okay,
do
I
have
well
do
you
want
me
to
read
through
through
the
list
that
we
have,
so
everyone
is
clear?
Okay,
so
we
have
media,
fertilizing,
master
plan,
gold,
2500
units
redo
or
revisit
the
Cherrydale
and
East
Falls
Church
plans
looking
into
incentives
for
additional
accessibility
along
the
corridor,
clarify
the
language
around
60
or
0
to
60
percent
Ami
in
the
plan.
Look
at
preserving
existing
like
historic,
is
the
the
word
historic
businesses.
O
A
Businesses,
okay,
Legacy
businesses
along
the
corridor,
look
at
raising
Mexican,
Heights
and
density
to
meet
the
affordable
housing
master
plan.
Gold,
look
at
additional,
affordable
senior
housing
prioritize
cash
through
whatever
means
available
that
can
include
co-location
and
consolidated
loans.
One.
F
A
Okay
and
well
I
mean
we'll
send
the
letter
out,
so
everyone
will
understand
words
met.
Okay,
do
I,
have
a
motion
to.
A
I
personally
am
wary
of
proposing
a
number
without
having
to
dug
into
all
the
details
about
that.
So
I
think
just
saying
we
think
whatever
would
get
you
the
units
that
we're.
A
And
leave
it
on
staff
to
figure
out
exactly
what
that
should
be.
That
would
be
my
recommendation.
I
agree
with
that
that
lengthwise,
okay
do
I,
have
a
motion.
W
A
You
do
I
have
a
second
second,
okay,
let's
do
a
roll
call,
and
so
this
is
to
approve
a
letter
to
the
County.
A
Our
recommendations
for
the
I
guess
it's
the
draft
ing,
Boulevard
and.
A
Okay,
excuse
me
so
I
guess:
I'll
start
with
myself
I
vote
Yes.
Commissioner
Montgomery.
Yes,
commissioner,
Service.
X
P
A
Q
Just
could
we
send
the
copy
of
this
to
the
planning
Commissioners
as
well?
The.
Q
A
A
C
Y
Yes,
ma'am
should
I
begin.
Yes,
yep,
okay,
okay,
just
one
moment,
while
I
set
up
my
presentation
on
the
screen,
foreign.
Y
Y
And
just
as
a
reminder
that
the
base
density
contribution
offers
developers
a
choice
of
cash
or
units
and
that
choice
is
up
to
developer
and
codified
in
state
code.
But
this
beyond
the
base
presentation
is
an
overview
of
different
ways.
Site
plan
developers
can
achieve
additional
density
via
affordable
housing
contributions,
including
affordable
housing
contributions
through
earned
density
like
CEO,
Roslin
and
Co,
Crystal
City,
and
then
bonus
density,
which
refers
to
section
15.5.9
of
the
zoning
ordinance.
Y
Y
The
zoning
ordinance
contains
several
ways
to
earn
density
or
achieve
bonus
density,
and
this
presentation
will
talk
about
section,
section,
15.5.9
of
the
zoning
ordinance
or
what
is
typically
considered
bonus
density
provision
and
is
being
actually
being
utilized
for
the
next
agenda
item
the
Bingham
Silver
Diner
site
plan,
but
we'll
also
touch
upon
other
earned
density
methods
and
background.
So,
for
example,
in
addition
to
15.5.9,
the
zoning
ordinance
has
several
Special
Districts,
which
I
did
touch
upon
the
previous
slide.
Y
And
this
slides
a
little
bit
about
the
history
since
the
the
late
1960s
Arlington
County
has
utilized
zoning
ordinance
Provisions
to
incentivize
the
creation
of
affordable
housing
in
exchange
for
bonus
density
over
the
50
plus
years.
There's
been
multiple
changes
to
these
Provisions,
which
have
progressively
allowed
larger
amounts
of
bonus
density.
In
2001,
the
zoning
ordinance
section
15.5.9
was
amended
to
allow
a
25
bonus
density
for
affordable
housing
for
residential
projects
or
0.25.
Y
This
meant
that
projects
can
now
earn
over
25
bonus
density
for
contributions
related
to
affordable
housing,
but
also
for
contributions
related
to
other
community
benefits
like
public,
open
space
or
Community
facilities
or
other
public
priorities,
and
then
for
the
other
ways
to
earn
density
such
as
the
CIA
Roslyn
or
CEO,
Crystal,
City
and
others.
Y
So
additional
density
is
negotiated
solely
in
response
to
the
applicant
requesting
this
additional
density,
which
then
per
our
ordinance
must
be
earned.
So
once
requested,
Community
benefits
packages
are
proposed
with
affordable
housing
being
one
component
of
the
package,
and
this
package
is
a
proposal
by
the
county
manager
which
ultimately
would
be
considered
by
the
County
board
for
approval.
Y
So,
in
other
words,
an
affordable
housing
value
is
assigned
as
part
of
the
total
Community
benefits
package
in
the
total
Community
benefit
value
is
often
acquired
through
the
use
of
an
appraisal,
so
in
regards
to
other
community
benefits
that
are
achieved,
for
example,
in
the
recently
approved
joist
motor
site
plan,
that
included
full
preservation
of
the
Clarendon
barber
shop
and
funds
towards
open
space
and
Transportation
Planning
in
the
Clarendon
area,
and
that's
actually
a
picture
of
the
Clarendon
Barber
Shop.
Another
example.
Y
More
specifically,
affordable
units
are
valued
by
taking
the
difference
between
the
market
rate
rents,
which
are
obtained
through
a
comp
analysis
and
affordable
rents
in
applying
to
capitalization
or
cap
rate.
So
it's
mentioned.
Staff
focuses
on
achieving
family
size
units
with
at
least
half
of
the
total
being
two
or
three
bedrooms,
and
typically
through
site
plans.
Y
These
are
two
bedroom
units,
as
some
developments
do
not
include
three
bedroom
units
or
there
are
only
a
handful
where
the
three
bedroom
units
are
located
on
a
penthouse
level,
which
would
make
them
too
expensive
to
provide
as
committed
affordable
in
terms
of
the
value
per
unit.
The
associated
table
has
some
examples
of
what
those
can
range,
and
you
know
those
are
recent
examples
primarily
from
site
plans.
Y
Utilizing
that
15.5.9
section
values
in
Roslyn,
for
example,
can
be
even
higher
than
what's
on
the
table,
and
the
per
unit
value
does
vary
for
each
project,
as
the
comps
used
to
determine
the
market.
Value
vary
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
Y
So
one
aspect
of
how
we
look
at
affordable
housing
contributions
is
how
the
affordable
unit
value
could
be
leveraged
with
other
sources
through
our
County
Loan
Fund
Investments.
So
in
this
hypothetical
example,
the
total
Community
benefits
value
towards
affordable
housing
is
1.5
million.
In
this
particular
area
of
the
county.
Let's
say
it's
Rosalind,
where
Market
units
can
rent
for
over
5000
per
unit
for
a
two
bedroom.
The
average
value
per
affordable
unit,
if
it
were
to
be
on
site,
is
estimated
to
be
about
425
000..
Y
That
means
that
about
four
Community,
affordable
units
could
be
provided
at
that
value
of
about
1.5
million.
If
the
same
1.5
million
was
leveraged
through
our
County
loan
projects,
it
could
provide
approximately
14,
affordable
units.
This
is
obtained
by
dividing
the
average
County
loan
funds
per
unit,
which
was
about
107
000
per
unit
over
the
past
three
years
by
1.5
million
and
units
funded
through
accounting.
Loan
funds
are
typically
affordable
for
75
or
more
years
and
do
contain
about
10
or
more
three
bedroom
units.
Y
So
it's
projects
that
included
some
type
of
bonus
or
earned
density
I
just
want
to
make
clear
it's
not
all
site
plans,
but
just
those
with
bonus
or
earned
density,
and
it
shows
that
almost
607
bonus
or
were
earned.
Density
calf
units
have
been
obtained
and
then
again,
as
we
learned
about
a
few
months
ago,
there
is
a
separate
base,
ordinance,
affordable
housing
contribution
for
the
base
density.
Y
So
this
table
only
reflects
bonus
or
earned
density
contributions,
and
you'll
also
see
that
there
were
cash
contributions
of
about
26
million
due
to
bonus
or
earned
density
that
were
approved
and
the
cash
contributions
are
primarily
attributed
attributable
to
see
a
Roslyn
and
seal
Crystal
City
projects.
Y
And
lastly,
there
were
commercial
site
plans
with
bonus
or
earn
density
that
have
been
approved
at
almost
60
million
dollars,
which
is
primarily
due
to
the
Met
Park
and
Pen
Place
approved
developments.
Y
And
I
think
this
is
one
of
the
last
slides.
So
it's
about
how
staff
takes
several
considerations
in
an
account
when
negotiating
cash
or
unit
contributions,
which
is
done
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
Y
So
first
staff
asked
if
the
project
is
in
a
particularly
expensive
rental
market,
whereas
a
cash
contribution
may
be
better
leveraged,
but
we
also
look
at
whether
the
cash
could
be
utilized
for
other
projects.
In
that
general
area,
we
asked
how
many
calves
would
the
county
receive
receiving
only
one
or
two
caps
would
make
it
challenging
from
a
compliance
and
monitoring
perspective.
Y
We
also
look
at
if
the
project
is
is
in
an
area
of
the
county
with
comparably
few
committed,
affordable
units,
perhaps
Clarendon
or
has
recently
completed
sector
plan,
where
more
site
plans
are
utilizing.
Bonus
to
earn
density
may
be
anticipated
all
right.
And
lastly,
we
analyzed
the
budget
Outlook
at
the
time
of
site,
plan
application
or
expected
project
delivery.
Y
So
I
hope
this
helped
explain
a
little
bit
about
how
bonus
and
density
contributions,
work
and
and
the
factors
that
go
into
the
staff
recommendations.
I'm
also
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
A
Thank
you
Melissa.
Can
you
tell
us
so
I
know.
O
A
Y
There
is
I
guess
more
discretion
in
terms
of
the
negotiations.
However,
there
is
only
so
much
you
could
do
within
the
bot
the
zoning
tool
box
that
we
have,
but
there
is
if
the
developer
requests
additional
density,
then
there
are
certain
zoning,
then
there's
certain
zoning
tools
that
can
help
in
the
negotiations
to
earn
that
density.
Y
So
it
isn't
I
would
say
as
prescriptive
as
the
base.
Zoning
ordinance
is
okay
and.
A
Can't
is
that
specific
to
Arlington
and
our
affordable
housing
like
law
at
this
state
level,
or
is
there
a
like
General,
Virginia
law
that
covers
for
all
the
counties?
Here's
how
site
plans
are
negotiated
and
we
just
follow
that.
Y
So
I
may,
if
I'm
understanding
correctly
with
with
the
base
ordinance,
it
is
my
understanding
that
that
really
is
applicable
to
Arlington
due
to
our
structure
of
government
and
I.
I.
Don't
know
enough
about
your
other
question
in
terms
of
how
we
are
in
bonus
and
iron
density.
Y
A
Ask
is
because
I
think
one
of
our
Lives
of
their
priorities
is
specifically
about
being
able
to
negotiate,
have
more
authority
to
negotiate
for
site
plans
and
I
know.
A
One
of
the
things
we
talked
about
was
the
board's
not
ready
to
endorse
changes
at
the
state
level
to
our
affordable
housing
like
law
for
Arlington,
and
if
that
Authority
is
part
of
that
law,
then
it's
likely
that
the
board
would
not
would
not
be
recepted
to
this
legislative
priority
either
so
I'm
trying
to
see
is
that
one
in
the
same
or
are
we
talking
about
two
different
authorities
that
come
from
different
laws
at
the
state
level?.
Y
C
U
When
you
all
arrive
at
the
sort
of
the
allocation
of
the
community
community
benefits
package,
do
you
all
disclose
that
to
the
developer,
like
you
say,
we're
valuing
these.
This
park
contribution
at
500
000
in
so
your
affordable
housing
is
1.5
million,
and
that's
we
think
that's
eight
units.
Is
that
I
mean?
Do
you
get
that
precise
okay?
Can
you
share
that
with
us
so
that
we
could
know
okay
staff
thought
that,
among
all
these
housing
among
all
these
Community
benefits,
this
is
what
housing
was
in
this
particular
situation.
Y
Yeah,
so
there
was
a
there
was
a
slide
that
did
have
kind
of
the
the
ranges
of
the
value
per
per
unit
for
affordable
units,
and
so
usually
it's
a
there's,
a
total
value.
And
then
it's
a
negotiation
between
you
know
how
many
units
can
that
total
value
obtain
and
also
based
on
the
the
unit
mix,
and
then
generally
you
know,
the
the
developer
and
and
County
staff
would
would
agree
on
that.
Y
That
number,
but
I
think,
as
the
next
site
plan
will
show
too
I
can
I
can
give
you
some
of
those
total
numbers
if
you
like,
when
we
get
to
the
next
item
for
the
Bingham
Silver
Diner
site
plan
as
well.
A
And
I
think
Melissa
is
part
of
that.
Like
I,
remember
this
came
up
during
Amazon's.
What
is
that
pen
Place
development
that
there
were
a
lot
of
questions
around?
What
was
the
value
of
like
the
the
school
that
was
being.
C
A
C
A
When
it
provides
briefings
to
like
the
Housing,
Commission
or
other
missions,.
T
Housing
Commissioners,
planning,
Commissioners
and
people
in
the
community
have
wanted
to
know
more
about
the
note
negotiations
as
they're
going
on,
and
what
I
want
to
just
bring
to
your
attention
is
that
you
know,
although
some
staff
are
involved
in
those
in
that
work,
they're
doing
it
on
behalf
of
the
board,
and
so
that
negotiation
is
between
the
board
and
the
developer
in
each
case,
and
so
that's
not
necessarily
a
public
conversation,
and
so
we
do
our
best
to
inform
commissions
and
citizens.
T
T
Well,
you
know,
you
know,
there's
you
know,
I,
don't
know
you
know.
Obviously,
after
the
after
the
site,
you
know
after
the
staff
report
is
put
out,
and
you
know
it's
clear
what
is
being
discussed.
I
think
you
know,
there's
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
those
things
you
know
and
but
to
get
into
the
minutia
of
you
know.
T
How
did
you
value
this
and
why
did
you
discount
for
that
I
mean
that
is
that
is
basically
negotiation
and
and
again
that's
between
the
board
and
the
developer
and
we're
not
necessarily
players
in
that
way,
and
we,
you
know,
provide
information
to
the
board
as
those
negotiations
go
on.
But
it's
not
you
know,
we
can't
have
230
000
arlingtonians
at
the
table.
At
the
same
time,
I
guess
is
the
bottom
line.
W
Well,
yes,
I
did
what
he's
saying
and
it's
just
an
overall
statement:
I
get
what
he's
saying
that
it's
board
and
the
developers,
but
the
board
is
pregnant
along
a
representation
of
the
people
so
that
people
want
to
have
some
type
of
information.
You
have
to
say
to
have
like
a
whole
transcript
of
how
you
do
things.
But
if
you
have
an
overall
outlook
on
how
things
what
was
the
process
I
don't
see
how
that
is
not
possible.
Being
that
you
are
a
representation
of
the
people.
So
it's
not
there's
no
private.
You.
W
Have
your
your
you
know
private
conversations,
but
when
it
pertains
to
public
information
or
dwellings,
housing,
anything
that
involves
the
development
of
Arlington.
There
should
be
some
type
of
insight
in
that
process
by
the.
A
People
and
I
think
Richard's
point
is
not
necessarily
disputing
that,
but
just
saying
you're
asking
the
wrong
person
for
that
information
like.
If
you
want
it,
you
you
need
to
go
to
the
board
and
have
them
say
yes,
publicly,
disclose
all
the
details
and
the
nitty-gritty
of
the
negotiation
that
staff
isn't
authorized
to
just
provide
that
when
we
ask
for
it,
because
they're
working
on
behalf
of
the
board,
not
not
on
behalf.
W
Of
the
manager
and
I
get
that,
but
his
response
was
telling
when
he
left
when
he
said
so,
do
you
need
to
ask
the
board
to
release
that
and
the
response.
Q
I
have
a
follow-up
question:
I
mean
I,
think
I'm,
not
sure
that
I
agree
with
the
way
that
it
was
presented.
You
know
I,
understand
that
maybe
those
negotiations
are
private.
Once
they're
established
I
think
that
this
commission,
as
the
chief
housing
advisor,
should
be
able
to
at
least
see
what
decisions
were
made,
regardless
of.
If
we
can
say
you
know,
we
agree
with
that
or
not.
Q
We
can
have
follow-up
conversations
with
County
board
members,
but
I
do
think
once
the
package
is
put
together
as
the
Housing
Commission,
we
should
be
able
to
say
we
have.
We
should
be
able
to
see
that
and
review
it
and
what
we
do
with
it
is
up
to
us,
but
I.
Don't
think
that
we
should
posture
it
in
a
way
that
those
are
private
conversations.
A
Q
T
Easy
yeah
and
and
and
and
I
think
that
there
have
been
those
conversations
between
commission
members
and
members
of
the
community
and
the
board.
You
know
wanting
more
transparency
or
more
information.
I
think
that
you
know
where
we
are
right
now.
You
know
when
the
Snapper
work
comes
out.
There's
a
I
think
there's
a
general.
T
This
is
my
character:
characterization,
there's
a
general
understanding
that
there's
a
a
part
of
money,
attributable
and
and
valued
in
exchange
for
the
density
that's
being
requested
and
then
that's
sort
of
divided
among
various
County
priorities.
Right
so
Melissa's
example
was
there's.
You
know
in
the
in
the
one
case,
a
million
and
a
half
dollars
worth
of
affordable
housing,
Goods
that
that
are
are
to
be
considered,
but
there
would
have
been
other
things
like
transportation
and
open
space
and
what
have
you?
T
And
so
when
the
staff
report
is
out,
there's
an
understanding
that
the
overall
pot
might
have
been
four
million
dollars
or
three
million
dollars
or
whatever
some
of
that
would
go
towards
affordable
housing,
and
some
of
that
would
go
to
these
other
things.
So
I
think
that
that's
what
the
staff
report
tells
us
you
know
now
how
exactly
we
arrived
at
every
dollar
down
to
the
penny
that
that
that
may
not
be
evident,
but
that
we're
trying
to
give
you
the
overall
picture
in
the
staff
report.
A
Thank
you,
Richard
other
questions,
comments
or
well,
we'll
go
with
you
and
that
Paul
and
then
Doris
very.
U
You
thank
you
that
was
great
Doris.
A
R
First
I
wanted
to
ask
so
this
this
particular
site
man
it.
This
is
a
is
this
a
this
is
a
private
deal
right
and
they're,
just
asking
for.
A
Oh
doors,
this,
this
was
just
an
example
and
explaining
the
bonus
density
process.
C
R
The
question
is
when
a
site
plan
is
a
private
deal,
then
The
Leverage
is
different
right
for
the
commission,
because
if
it's
one
that
is
going
to
use
AF
funding,
then
there's
more
leverage
correct
in
in
being
able
to
negotiate
with
them.
H
Y
Bonus
or
earn
density
works
for
those
market
rate
projects
correct.
When
developers
are
seeking
our
County
loan
funds,
you
know
they
they
may
seek
bonus
or
earned
density,
but
there's
also
a
lot
of
other
leverage,
financial
and
otherwise
for
those
projects.
A
A
P
Would
just
agree
that
I
would
like
to
see
more
information
on
the
specific
cost
breakdown.
So
if
we
could
submit
a
request
to
the
County
Board,
we
might
as
well
ask.
A
We
can
vote
on
that.
I
can
also
just
have
a
conversation
with
Matt
and
bring
that
up.
We
can
handle
it
different
ways,
but,
okay,
okay,
I'll,
take
that
as
an
action.
Q
Y
T
T
You
know,
20th
century
were
saying
we
should
we
ought
to
have
more
incentives,
and
so
the
incentive
that
was
devised
was
bonus
density,
so
that
was
the
the
first
time
so
up
up
until
that
point,
you
could
get
the
maximum
density,
and
that
was
all
you
can
get
for
the
zoning
District
bonus
since
it
was
put
in
place
to
incentivize,
more
affordable
housing
and
other
community
goals,
and
it
was
capped
at
25
percent,
because
there
was
a
I
guess,
a
concern
that
you
know,
unlike
where
we
were
in
in
2019.
T
You
know
there
was
a
concern
about
having
too
much
density
or
unlimited
density,
and
so
we've
gone
beyond
the
25
bonus
and
we've
said
you
know
within
certain
ground
is
there's
unlimited
density,
unlimited
bonus
density.
So
that's
how
the
conversations
progressed
over
the
years.
T
Q
Follow-Up
is
just
you
know.
My
question
was
geared
towards
assessing
whether
or
not
that
strategy
actually
provided
more
affordable
units.
Melissa
I,
think
I
heard
you
say
from
2001.
Until
current,
we
added
667
committed,
affordable
units
I'd,
like
this
commission,
just
to
think
about
how
many
total
units
we've
built
since
2001
and
of
that
we've
gotten
667
I,
don't
know
what
percentage
that's
going
to
be,
but
it's
going
to
be
a
fraction
of
one
percent
of
the
total
units
that
we've
added
it
comes
out
to
about
30
units
per
year.
Q
So,
ultimately,
what
I'm
I'm
just
expressing
is
we
we
allowed
developers
to
go.
You
know
25
more
with
bonus
density
with
the
hopes
of
adding
more
affordable
housing,
but
based
off
of
what
we're
hearing
tonight
we
got
667
units
across
22
years,
only
30
units,
so
now
we're
adding
more
of
density.
But
what
I'm
saying
is
the
the
math?
Isn't
mapping
we're
adding
more
density,
but
we're
not
seeing
the
return
on
affordable
housing?
Y
That
would
be,
for
those
market
rate
developments
primarily
on
site.
V
P
U
V
Can
do
to
the
exist
or
recommend
to
the
existing
ordinances,
since
the
bonus
density
is
an
Arlington
thing
and
not
a
Virginia
legislative
thing
that
could
I
that
either
increases
the
amount
that
we're
getting
from
the
developers.
You
know
so
it's
either
increasing.
A
To
do
that,
I
don't
know
quite
how
to
do
that,
but
so
I
think
going
back
to
our
previous
discussions.
Maybe
I
think
the
July
meeting
about
the
affordable,
housing,
ordinance
and
the
state
law
and,
like
you
know,
I,
think
you
and
a
couple.
Others
have
brought
up
wanting
to
revisit
that
and
look
at
you
know
how
do
we
get
a
better
deal
for
the
Arlington
Community
than
what
we
have
been
getting
times
have
changed
the
ordinance
and
the
law
has
not
it's
interesting
to
know
that
it
sounds
like.
A
Flexibility
around
bonus
density
that
isn't
necessarily
A.
You
know
General
Assembly
change,
one
of
the
things
and
I
I
think
I
brought
this
up
when
I
talked
to
Matthew
ferranti
about
this,
he
said
because
I
pitched
basically
put
any
other
task
force
or
subcommittee
to
work
with
staff
to
look
into.
C
A
Know
what
would
we
recommend
that
the
affordable
housing
law
should
be
changed
to
in
the
general
assembly
and,
by
extension,
our
ordinance?
He
said
wait
until
after
like
November
elections,
and
then
you
know,
we
can
talk
some
more
about
that.
O
A
Density
side
is
that
something
that
staff
already
has
because
I
know
this
has
come
up
before?
Is
there
already
some
analysis
that
staff
has
in
place
that
they
could
share
with
the
commission
about
what
could
potentially
be
a
better
deal
for
the
community
when
it
comes
to
either
bonus
density
or
or
this
ordinance
new
study
effort
on
the
part
of
staff.
T
Well,
as
it
pertains
to
the
base
coordinates,
I
think
the
word,
the
the
analysis
has
already
been
done,
and
that
was
what
was
shared
with
the
commission
recently
I'm,
not
aware
of
a
you
know,
analysis
related
to
bonus
density,
specifically.
A
T
Well,
I
think
that
I'm,
referring
to
the
tissue
advice,
analysis
of
the
current
zoning
ordinance
so
I,
think
that
provides
some
insight
into
you
know
what
the
base
Provisions
provide,
and
you
know
a
comparison
of
the
on-site
versus
cash
contributions
in
the
values
thereof
and
so
I
think
that's
the
basis
for
that.
T
That
is
the
analysis
or
the
information
that
you
would
want
to
know
and
to
terminate
you
know
another
Avenue
or
or
where
you
would
like
to
go,
perhaps
with
the
considering
the
base
ordinance,
if
you
could
get
to
that
again,
I
don't
know
if
that
how
that
applies
to
the
base
of
the
bonus
density,
okay,.
A
P
I
I
was
sent
a
document.
Okay,
maybe
Alex.
P
I
Sent
to
the
commission
on
August
10th
it's
of
this
year.
I
Okay,
yeah,
so
there's
a
forward
court
on
the
affordable
housing
ordinance
review.
It
was
sent
to
the
commission.
It's
also
up
on
the
website,
but
yeah.
It's
31-page
report
on
it
on
that
good.
A
To
know
good
to
know,
I
missed
that
in
my
email,
yeah
I
think
yeah.
C
A
Would
be
helpful
too,
so
I
think
then
for
Commissioners
it'd
be
great
if
people
who
have
not
had
a
chance
to
look
at
it
like
myself,
could
take
a
look
at
it
and
see
if
we
want
to
move
forward
with
doing
like
a
subcommittee,
maybe
in
November,
starting
that
up
based
on
what's
what's
already
there
and
talking
to
some
other
experts
in
the
community,
great
okay,
any
other
questions
for
staff
on
this.
A
Okay,
well,
thank
you
so
much
Melissa
and
Richard
for
providing
that
information
to
us
and
also
learning
mates,
and
this.
C
A
Analysis
that
I
didn't
know
about
and
I
think.
Our
next
item
is
the
Bingham
Silver
Diner
site
plan.
Y
Yes,
oh
so
I
was
just
going
to
introduce.
We
have
with
us
David
Turner
who's
representing
the
applicant
for
this
I
I
think
he
has
a
short
presentation
and
then
I
have
a
short
presentation
before
turning
it
back
to
you,
chair
McBeth.
If
that's
okay,.
D
All
right
sounds
good
I'm,
Dave,
Tarter
I'm,
an
attorney
with
harder
another
law
and
I'm
delighted
to
be
with
you
this
evening
and
frankly,
to
hear
your
conversation
earlier
this
this
evening
about
affordable
housing.
So
I
represent
the
developer.
U
D
Binger
Bingham
I'm
Gerard
blank
here,
Bingham
Center,
sorry,
the
old
Silver,
Diner
site,
I
think
you're
quite
familiar
with
it,
but
I'd
like
to
show
you
a
presentation
and
take
you
around
the
site
and
then
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
affordable
housing.
So
I'm
gonna
try
to
share
my
screen
right
now
and
let's
see
if
I
can
pull
this
back
up
for
you
all
right
now
see.
F
D
D
Let's
get
just
scroll
through
it
in
the
meantime,
while
you're
doing
that.
Okay,
the
punch
line,
the
county
is
a
great
negotiator.
I
know
you
all
were
talking
about
that
earlier,
but
being
on
the
other
end
of
this
I
can
assure
you
that
they
are
very
thorough
and
represent
the
county
and
the
people's
interests
quite
thoroughly
quite
confidently.
So
anyway,
we're
gonna
pull
up
the
screen,
I'm
going
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
as
they're
waiting
for
that
to
happen.
This
is
the
Silver
Diner
site
and
I.
D
Imagine
you
all
are
familiar
that
familiar
with
that
as
well.
It's
a
site,
that's
a
long
time
coming
this
case,
and
this
project
have
been
years
in
the
making.
It's
a
it's
a
complex
consolidation
and
land
Swap,
and
so
what's
happened
is
ultimately
this
triangular
shaped
property
was
carved
up
into
two
triangles
which
we're
keeping
right
now
and
let's
go
ahead,
and
maybe
we
can
pull
that
up.
Can
you
all
see
the
screen
right
now?
Yeah,
yes,
great!
Let's
go
on
to
the
next
slide
for
now
and
Bruno.
D
D
It
is
a
larger
site
that
was
Consolidated
with
number
of
smaller
parcels
and
then
swapped
with
the
Joyce
motor
side
for
them
to
have
a
try
to
have
a
rectangle
and
we've
got
the
two
remaining
triangles,
and
so
it's
been
years
in
the
making
it's
it's
pretty
complicated,
putting
this
together,
but
we're
delighted
to
come
before
you
try
and
explain
a
little
bit
more
of
what
we're
hoping
to
do
next
slide.
D
So
right
now
again,
these
surprise
slides,
you're
familiar
with,
but
it's
essentially
a
1950s
Style
development,
with
lots
of
asphalt,
lots
of
parking
surface
parking,
not
very
nice,
sidewalks,
a
limited
Street
trees,
street
lights.
This
is
those
kind
of
project
where
you
would
drive
next
door
instead
of
walking
because
it
just
doesn't
feel
right.
It's
dangerous
and
we're
going
to
change
all
that.
Let's
go
into
the
next
slide.
D
So
this
is,
this
is
just
some
more
of
what
you
know
is
already
there.
Let's
go
on
to
the
next
slide.
So
this
is
our
project,
an
aerial
view
at
the
kind
of
bottom
across
the
street.
You
can
see
North,
Side
social
onto
the
right.
You
can
see
our
multi-family
residential
project
and
to
the
left
is
a
hotel.
That's
right!
A
hotel
first
hotel
in
Clarendon
I
think
the
only
hotel
that
might
be
in
Clarendon,
so
we're
very
excited
about
that.
D
To
bring
some
new
life,
some
new
activity
to
this
gateway
to
Clarendon
next
Slide,
the
just
a
little
bit
of
the
details
as
well.
We've
got
229
Hotel
units
parking
is
0.34
ratio,
multi-family
residential
over
290
residential
units
and
approximately
16
000
square
feet
of
retail
ground
floor
retail
space
next
slide.
D
So
I
alluded
to
this
just
a
moment
ago,
but
the
site
doesn't
really
have
any
streetscape
and
it's
very
tight
there.
So
the
areas
in
green,
which
amount
to
about
38
of
our
site
will
be
given
over
to
the
county
for
wider
sidewalks,
proper
streetscape
street
lights,
a
new
10th
Street
nor
a
10th
Road
North
a
new
alley.
So
it
that's
one
of
the
constraints
we're
trying
to
work
with
or
have
worked
with.
It's
a
very
tight
sight.
D
That's
gotten
tighter
to
the
tune
of
about
38
percent,
to
accomplish
some
of
the
County's
long-term
goals
and
by
the
way
those
things
I
was
talking
about
we're
going
to
build
those
at
our
expense.
So
new
streetscape,
sidewalks,
Street
trees,
new
10th,
Road
North.
Those
are
all
going
to
be
paid
for
by
the
developer
next
slide.
D
D
Lots
of
green
and
biophilic
design,
it's
a
challenging
cycle,
we're
meeting
the
County's
goal
of
15
tree
canopy,
so
that
took
a
lot
of
work,
but
we
are
there
next
slide.
D
D
Yeah,
we
could
go
through
this,
this
again
talking
showing
our
Terraces
and
our
green
roofs
and
the
like.
We
are
getting
lead
gold
certification
as
well,
so
the
property
and
the
project
have
environmentally
sustainable
benchmarks
that
we're
going
to
live
up
to
next
spot.
D
Here's
just
some
other
views,
an
aerial
view
from
above
10th
Street.
You
can
see
the
taper
I
talked
about.
This
is
the
multi-family
residential
building
to
the
left,
the
hotel
to
the
right
and
the
building
in
white
is
the
Joyce
Motors
site,
which
you
saw
several
months
ago,
maybe
six
months
ago,
next
slide
again,
this
is
the
hotel
which
has
its
entrance
on
Wilson
Boulevard
about
Street
trees
around
the
periphery.
Next
slide.
D
D
Boulevard,
we
think
it's
a
very
prominent
corner
and
we've
tried
to
address
that
with.
We
think
a
very
nice
architecture
next
slide-
and
this
is
a
close-up
of
10th
Street,
the
10th
Street
multi-family
residential,
as
you
can
see,
masonry
black
metal
window
prints
and
the
like
that
are
if
I
could
have
a
kind
of
a
post-industrial
look
next
slide.
D
So
this
is
a
talking
earlier
about
sustainability.
We've
got
lots
of
sustainability
features.
I
won't
go
into
them
right
now,
but
we
do
have
a
number
of
aspects
of
our
project,
including
any
beat
charging
and
the
like
that
are
very
environmentally
sustainable.
Next
slide,.
D
So
this
particular
one
doesn't
have
a
slide
about
Community
benefits,
but
I
want
to
speak
to
that
anyway,
and
I
can
do
that
for
memory,
because
I'm
working
on
this
case
so
long,
so
the
bulk
of
our
community
benefits
are
provided
in
affordable
housing.
We
have
15
committed,
affordable
units.
Five
of
them
are
one
bedroom
units
10
or
two
bedroom
units,
which
is
quite
a
lot
frankly,
and
it
is
the
bulk
of
our
community
benefit
funds
that
you
heard
about
in
the
last
presentation,
but
we're
also
doing
a
whole
lot
more.
D
We
are
built
we're
doing
offside
improvements
along
Wilson
Boulevard,
where
the
power
station
is
that's,
also
very
dangerous
and
unpleasant
place
to
walk,
so
we're
going
to
widen
the
sidewalk
put
in
Street
trees,
street
lights
and
other
features
to
make
that
an
attractive
place
to
be
we're
also
going
to
build
a
new
park
which
is
a
small
park,
but
it's
at
the
tip
of
Irving
Street,
which
is
at
the
top
right
of
our
corner.
So
that's
part
of
our
community
benefits
as
well
brand
new
plaza
where
Irving
Street
is
already
blocked
off.
D
We
are
building
Street,
skate
improvements
and
New
Roads
10th
Road
North,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
and
a
number
of
contributions
for
all
sorts
of
things
as
well,
but
the
bulk
of
our
contribution
for
Community
benefits
is
for
committed,
affordable
housing
units.
So
we're
very
pleased
with
about
that
and
with
that
I
think
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Melissa,
we'll
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
Y
Thank
you
and
I
actually
am
going
to
share
just
very,
very
brief
presentation
reiterating
some
of
the
affordable
housing
points
this
one
moment,
while
I
pull
that
up.
Y
Okay,
so
first
I
won't
believe
her
this
that
the
African
David
just
went
through
this,
but
the
the
plans
are
to
build
a
hotel
in
298
multi-family
building
with
with
ground
floor
retail
and
it's
in
the
Clarendon
sector
plan
area.
Y
Y
Next
I
want
to
touch
upon
the
racial
Equity.
The
the
County
Board
adopted
Equity
resolution
in
September
2019
and
the
resolution
includes
in
part
direction
to
apply
racial
Equity
lands
for
every
project
and
specifically,
staff
asks
the
following
questions:
when
considering
racial
impacts
of
County
projects
such
as
who
benefits
who's
burdened
who's
missing.
And
how
do
we
know
and
what
did
we
do.
Y
In
terms
of
demographics,
the
2021
American
Community
survey,
five-year
estimate
data
for
racial
composition
for
the
census
tract
for
the
site
plan
is
located
indicates
this
area
is
not
as
diverse
as
the
county
as
a
whole.
So,
for
example,
there's
a
smaller
percentage
of
black
and
Asian
races
in
the
census
tract
where
the
site
plan
is
located
compared
to
the
county
as
a
whole.
The
data
also
shows
that
six
percent
of
the
population
within
the
census
tract
identifies
as
having
Hispanic
or
Latino
origin
as
compared
to
almost
16
percent
county-wide.
Y
So,
in
terms
of
racial
Equity
questions,
the
proposed
15
on-site
caps
will
benefit
and
enable
income
eligible
families
to
live
in
an
area
of
the
county
nearby,
that's
nearby
Metro
and
other
community
amenities,
and
those
who
benefit
may
also
be
those
who
are
burdened
as
the
fiscal
year.
2022
annual,
affordable
housing
plan
indicator
report
indicates
only
12.3
percent
of
Arlington's
rental.
Y
In
terms
of
who
is
missing,
the
proposed
units
will
be
affordable
up
to
60
Ami
and
may
not
be
affordable
to
households
with
very
low
incomes
and
who
may
not
be
eligible
for
housing
grants
or
housing.
Choice
vouchers
I
will
say
that
these
very
low
income
units
are
typically
achieved
through
projects
that
utilize
our
County
loan
funds,
and
we
know
this
information
based
on
census,
tract
information
for
this
geographic
area
as
compared
to
the
the
rest
of
the
county
and
in
terms
of
what
we
do.
A
I,
know,
there's,
there's
not
a
whole
lot
for
us
to
specifically
provide
feedback
on
of
it,
and
do
we
like
this
or
not
because,
as
we
learned
this
year,
the
base
ordinance
is
pretty
set
in
stone
and
the
bonus
density
also
has
a
specific
calculation.
I
think
it
is
great
to
see
that
there's
going
to
be
15
units
on
site
that
that
seemed
confirmed.
Is
that
absolutely
confirmed,
or
is
that
just
a
proposal
at
this
point.
A
Good,
it
would
be
great
to
see
the
10
on-site
units
for
the
the
base
base
ordinance
as
well,
but
I
know
that's,
not
a
decision
that
will
be
made
for
for
some
time.
For
you
mentioned
the
part
is
that
going
to
be
a
like
Green
Park
or
a
concrete
park
with
trees.
D
So
that
remains
to
be
I.
I
can
tell
by
your
question
what
maybe
you're
thinking,
but
that
remains
to
be
seen.
Were
the
developers
going
to
fund
a
county
run
program
to
determine
what
you
know,
in
other
words,
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
pay
for
a
plan,
a
process
to
determine
what
that
Park's
going
to
look
like,
so
the
developer
will
not
be
making
that
decision.
The
county
will
be
so
that
remains
to
be
seen.
We're
hopeful
that
you
know
there
is.
A
Education
also
and
I
assume
this
probably
isn't
directly
under
the
control
of
the
applicant
either,
but
on.
A
Diner
before
there
was
ruthies
there
was
a
Silver
Diner
there's
a
meeting
place
for
arlingtonians.
That
was
a
pretty
Central
spot
for
a
lot
of
people.
So
I
know,
there's
there's
supposed
to
be
a
cafe
or
some
sort
of
restaurant
I
believe
in
the
hotel
building,
but
I
would
just
encourage
the
applicant
if
there's
any
Discretions
they
have
in
you
know,
selecting
tenants
for
that.
They
think
about.
A
You
know
a
similar
sort
of
meeting
space
and
convenience
base
for
arlingtonians
to
go
to
that.
We
used
to
have
with
the
Silver
Diner
in
that
spot.
D
I
think
a
lot
of
thought's
already
been
given
to
that
and
I
think
the
developers
has
got
the
same
mindset.
You
know
who
and
what
the
hell
that's
going
to
look
but
I
think
the
notion
of
creating
a
space.
That's
you
know,
kind
of
funky
Clarendon,
that's
reflective
of
the
neighborhood
and
the
neighborhood's
history.
I
think,
is
what
they're
thinking
about.
D
The
developer,
Tom
Schultz
is
on
the
call
right
now.
The
project
is
named
after
someone
named
Mr,
Bingham
and
I.
Don't
know
Tom
if
you
want
to
go
into
any
of
that,
but
Tom
Schultz
who
owns
Garfield
Park
is
one
of
the
the
owners
and
then
he
has
Partners
at
Donahoe
who
donoho
companies
who
are
also
on
the
phone.
But
it's
you
know
well-known
long
established
developers
who
have
a
long
history
here
in
the
in
the
corridor
and
in
the
region.
S
I'm
not
sure
what
you
mean
by
the
question:
we
own
the
property.
We
are
behind
the
project
we
being
TCS,
Realty,
Associates,
Tom,
Schultz,
we've
been
developing
up
in
the
corridor
for
many
decades
and
I'm.
Not
sure
I
understand
the
question,
but
we
are
the
owners.
D
Been
answered,
yeah
yeah,
so
just
by
wave
information,
Tom
has
developed
and
owns
Garfield
Park,
which
is
just
up
the
street
in
Clarendon.
Some
of
the
self-storage
projects
in
Clarendon
also
the
one
that
looks
like
the
firehouse
and
the
like
on
10th
Street
as
well.
So
Thomas
had
a
very,
very
long
history
in
Clarendon
and
still
has
ownership
in
the
area
and
Donahoe
companies
who
are
also
partnering
here.
You've
probably
heard
of
them
as
well
so
long
and
I
think
successful
history
in
Arlington.
S
To
give
you
a
little
more
background,
I've
been
involved
in
the
Roslyn
Ballston
Corridor,
since
1979.
I
started
out
in
the
late
70s,
and
up
until
1989
90
assembling
I
was
probably
I,
probably
assembled.
Oh
70,
75
percent
of
the
land
in
Boston
for
the
developments
up
there
during
the
80s
90s
and
even
into
today,
was
involved
in
the
Federal
Deposit
Insurance
Corporation
assembly
and
all
up
and
down
the
corridor
from
Roslyn
to
Ballston
so
been
very,
very
familiar
with.
S
It
have
been
involved
in
millions
of
square
feet,
either
as
an
investor,
a
broker
or
developer
since
since
1979,
so
I,
don't
know
if
I'm
answering
or
not,
but.
U
You
are
thank
you.
The
name
of
the
applicant
just
didn't
mean
anything
to
me.
So
I
had
a
question.
So
thank
you,
Melissa.
You
take
a
great
explanation
before
this
about
how
you
arrive
at
sort
of
the
the
value
of
the
on-site
units
or
the
bonus
units.
U
Y
Yeah,
so
that
1.1
million
is
the
the
base
ordinance
calculation,
which
is
a
lot
different
than
how
it's
a
specific
calculation.
You
know
and
would
would
require
State
enabling
legislation
to
change
that.
Y
The
previous
presentation
talked
about
about
how
we
value
units
for
the
purposes
of
bonus
or
earned
density
and
the
values
for
this
particular
site
for
the
the
affordable
bonus
units
did
range
from
you
know,
depending
on
on
the
bedroom
size
from
about
273
000
to
304
000
per
unit.
Okay,
thank.
A
You
Doris,
you
had
a
question.
R
Well,
I
I
think
one
of
my
questions
was
just
answered,
but
because
the
question,
in
my
mind,
was
if,
if
there
are,
if
the
selection
is
not
on-site
units
and
but
rather
a
contribution,
what
what's
the
value
of
the
number
of
units
that
it's
going
to,
that?
That
amount
of
money
is
going
to
get
us
for
some
future
AF
project?
And
then
the
other
question
that
I
had
is
I,
recognized
that
and
appreciate
that
you're
going
to
include
type
A
Accessible
units.
R
R
And
what
concerns
me
is
that
this
is
right
in
in
the
Metro,
Corridor
and
very
accessible
and
and
and
easy
to
navigate
area
like
Clarendon
and
and
right
there
at
the
Metro
and
and
and
we
will
not
get
any
extra
accessible
units
there,
which
would
be
valuable
to
people
with
disabilities
in
Arlington
or
coming
to
Arlington,
who
might
be
pursuing
young
people
who
might
be
pursuing
jobs
and
and
and
trying
to
get
competitive
jobs
with
either
the
government
or
just
in
the
Arlington
area.
R
So
I
wondering
what
drives
the
decision
and
the
negotiations
just
to
put
in
the
minimum
building
code
requirement
and
then,
instead
of
getting
more
value
by
having
more
accessible
units,
and
then
the
last
thing
I
wanted
to
ask
is
well.
This
project
have.
R
Security
intercoms,
as
is
the
standard
site
plan
convention,
has
that
that
is
agreed
to
is.
Is
that
correct?
And
the
last
thing
that
I
wanted
to
know
is
Lord?
Let's
ask
is
what
other
accessibility
features
are
in
this
project,
particularly
the
hotel
portion
of
the
project
in
terms
of
number
of
accessible
hotel
rooms
out
of
the
total
foreign.
D
We
do
have
our
architect
on
the
phone
and
I.
Don't
know
if
he's
able
to
answer
some
of
his
questions
out
of
the
out
of
the
affordable
units,
the
15
there
are
two
that
are
accessible,
so
one
of
the
two
bedrooms
and
one
of
the
one
bedrooms
is
both
affordable
and
type
A
Accessible.
So
I'll
start
with
that
and
I
don't
know
if
Bruno,
if
you
have
anything
to
say
about
the
hotel,
for
example,
the
accessibility
and
the
like
of
the
hotel.
Z
Yes,
hello,
everyone
good
evening
for
the
hotel,
I
believe
in
I
want
to
make
promises,
but
I
believe
it's
also
two
percent.
We
I
mean
we're
still
under
the
schematic
face,
so
we
haven't
really
laid
out
all
those
units
but
of
what
we
had
I
believe
it
was
two
percent.
If
you
give
me
a
couple
more
minutes,
I
can
actually
give
you
a
an
answer.
D
Yeah
I
think
part
of
this
is
we
haven't
really
designed
all
the
elements
yet
of
the
building
and
so
I
think
there's
some
things
that
need
to
be
remained
to
be.
You
know,
designed
and
and
the
like,
I
don't
know
if
Ralph,
if
you
have
anything
to
add
or
Tom
anything
to
add
I,
know,
hotels
have
higher
standards
for
things
like
this
and
the
like,
and
this
will
be
a
flag,
Hotel
I
think
it'll
be
one
of
the
top
hotels
in
Arlington.
J
J
Hi
everybody,
my
name
is
Ralph
schwary
I
am
with
Donna
development,
so
we
have
to
meet
all
the
ADA
requirements
and
accessibility
requirements
in
the
hotel
and
the
residential
building.
So
we
will
definitely
meet
those
requirements
and
we
have
to
now
as
far
as
the
percentages
and
that
I
don't
know,
we're
gonna
I'm
gonna
defer
to
The
Architects
to
with
those
numbers.
D
To
make
two
percent
is
required
by
code,
so
I'm
sure
we're
going
to
meet
that,
and
so
you
know
I,
don't
know
what
other
features
there
might
be.
It
may
be
that
we
don't
have
that
information
in
our
fingertips.
What
other
features
might
be
added
on
top
of
that,
but
at
bare
minimum
certainly
will
comply
with
all
aspects
of
ADA
and
as
a
hotel.
D
You
know
the
flag,
that's
going
to
run,
I,
don't
know
if
you
guys
want
to
say
who
the
flag
operator
is
for
this
at
this
point,
or
maybe
it's
not
determined
but
I
would
just
say
it
would
be
a
nationally
known
hotel
that
will
have
the
standards
of
you
know
this
hotel
chain
that
you
all
have
heard
about
and
will
operate
accordingly.
D
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
anything
anybody
wants
to
add
to
that.
But
I
guess
I
would
just
say
that
that's
I
think
our
response
at
this
time.
A
Okay,
thank
you
so
I'm
going
to
cut
off
questions
there
and
do
we
have
a
motion.
A
Do
we
have
any
specific
things
other
than
just
incorporating
discussion
that
we're
going
to
add
to
it?
Just
okay,
let's
go
with
incorporating
discussion,
we'll
massage
the
language
later.
A
I'll
start
with
myself,
commissioner:
Macbeth
votes.
Yes,
commissioner:
Montgomery,
yes,
Mr
surface,
yes,
Mr
McGillivray,
yes,
Mr
I
mean
Jared.
This.
P
A
A
So
Doris
I
think,
did
you
say
you're
having
a
power
door,
woman,
so
Doris?
If
you
could
ask,
maybe
if
staff
can
ask
the
applicant
to
follow
up
in
writings.
C
A
X
A
You
okay,
so
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
legislative
priorities,
so
I
thought
we
had
a
very
good
meeting
of
the
legislative
priority
subcommittee
in
August.
Thank
you
to
Nikki
for
convening
that
and
sharing
that,
and
thank
you
to
Katie
and
Nikki
for
putting
together
the
the
Draft
parties
that
you
all
have
in
front
of
you.
I,
don't
know.
A
If
people
saw
the
last
minute
editions
that
I
made
based
on
what
came
out
of
that
meeting
yeah,
we
don't
have
a
practice
copy,
but
it
would
have
been
the
last
email
sent
before
this
meeting
so
I
added
two
additional
priorities,
which
was
increasing
the
required
percentage
of
accessible
type
A
units
for
new
development
and
increasing
funding
for
the
Virginia
office
of
fair
housing
and
provide
State
funding
for
the
local
government
for
housing
enforcement.
A
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
was
that
you
know
if
we're
lucky,
the
board
will
take
one
of
these
and
put
it
in
their
their
legislative
priorities.
So
I
would
say
we
should
not
have
more
than
four.
A
We
currently
have
nine,
so
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
narrow
this
down.
I.
Certainly
have
my
own
thoughts
about
which
ones
should
be
included
in
you
know
our
actual
recommendation
moving.
A
So
I
can
share.
My
thoughts
is
helpful
so
because
this
has
already
been
one
that
the
board
has
included.
B
A
Would
like
to
continue
recommending
that
they
that
work
request
the
Authority
for
Virginia
localities,
number
two
to
enforce
tenant
rights
and
protections
under
Virginia,
residential
landlord
and
I
act,
especially
concerning
health
y.
This
past
the
general
assembly
and
was
vetoed
by
the
governor
I.
Think
it's
important
to
keep
it
on
the
board's
radar
is
something
that
you
know
is
needed
in
the
community.
A
A
Code
or
risper
consists
the
property
manager
or
landlord
appreciate
the
contacts.
That's
provided
in
here
about
the
bill
that
delegate
Lopez
had
a
patroned
in
2022
that
ended
up
failing,
but
I
think
this
one
is
really
important,
because
I
think
we
keep
hearing
from
people
that
they're
afraid
of
retaliation
and
that
there's
a
lot
of
sort
of
legal
loopholes.
That
landlords
can
do
things
that
are
otherwise
legal
but
motivated
by
retaliation
and
good
tenants.
So,
for
instance,
not
renewing
the
person's
lease
or
increasing
their
rent.
A
A
So
this
basically
the
bill
that
Lopez
it
before
it
said
that
if
those
actions
are
happening
within
six
months
of
the
tenant
bringing
up
a
complaint,
the
landlord
has
to
prove
that
it
is
not
a
retaliatory
intent
as
opposed
to
putting
the
burden
of
proof
on
the
tenant.
A
The
next
one
that
I
would
recommend
is
number
six.
The
established
at
Virginia
multiple
mediation
fund
and
provide
free
mold
testing
to
Virginia
residents.
I
think
this
is
one
that
again,
we've
heard
a
lot
over
the
years
of
both
10
11
commission
and
Housing
Commission.
That
mold
continues
to
be
an
issue.
The
only
way
for
tenants
to
currently
enforce
their
rights
under
the
Virginia
residential
landlord
tenant
Act
is
to
sue
the
landlord
if
they're
not
taking
care
of
mold
issues
and
doing
the
multiple
remediation.
C
A
Address
it,
then
it
allows
the
state
and
mechanism
to
do
the
mold
remediation
regardless
and
then
the
last
ones
in
my
fourth
one
that
I
would
recommend
would
be
increasing
the
required
percentage
of
accessible
type
A
units
for
a
new
develop
in.
So
that
was
something
that,
during
our
meeting
of
the
subcommittee
in
August,
we
had
Disability
Advocates,
who
said
that
they
were
planning
to
request
a
10
requirement
again
I'm
not
super
comfortable
with
putting
a
number
on
it.
A
I'd
rather
just
say,
increase
it
Beyond,
two
percent,
but
that
is
something
that
we've
continually
talked
about,
and
we've
heard
from
Doris
during
a
lot
of
our
site
plan
discussions
and
our
meetings.
So
those
would
be
the
four
that
that
I
think
best
represents
sort
of
the
the
needs
of
our
community
and
what
I
I'd
want
to
see
the
board
put
forward.
Given
you
know
trying
to
put
a.
A
A
Two,
so
I
I
recommend
four,
two,
four
six
and
eight.
Oh
it's!
Oh
it's
not
intentional.
Is
there
already.
A
And
I
I
will
say
so.
One
I
think
with
a
bit
more
clarification
that
seems
wrapped
up
in
the
affordable
housing
law,
which
it
doesn't
look
like.
The
board
wants
to
touchdown,
so
I
think
that
could
be
saved
for
our
subcommittee
or
task
force
effort
the
General,
District
Courts
receivership,
one
I
just
don't
think
it's
as
high
of
a
priority,
the
compensation
for
tenants.
These
units
have
been
condemned.
I
think
that's
a
great
one.
A
I
just
think
that
that's
a
less
likely
scenario
like
it
doesn't
happen
as
frequently,
but
it
does
happen.
It
sucks
a
lot,
but
I
don't
see
that
as
as
big
of
an
issue
as
some
of
the
other
ones.
A
A
If
I
had
to
pick
between
the
two,
because
I
knew
that
I
want
to
include
one
of
the
mold
ones
and
then
number
nine,
which
is
increasing
funding
for
the
office
of
fair
housing
at
the
state
level,
as
well
as
providing
funding
for
local
governments,
I
think
that's
great
I
just
had
to
cut
somewhere
the
first
one.
What
are
the
ones
that
I
got.
A
I
know
right:
I
mean
fair
housing,
Is
My
Jam
too,
so
that
that
was
tough
but
I
think
the
funding
ones.
The
board
is
less
than
likely.
In
my
view,
to
do
the.
A
A
A
Oh
yeah,
it's
not
like
we're
gonna,
you
know
burn
these
after
so
we
can
certainly
the
ones
that
we
don't
include.
C
A
A
C
O
C
A
I
could
make
up
a
priority
right
now:
I
hadn't,
given
it
much
thought,
but
I
would
probably
go
with
the
one
that
they
already
have
as
the
top
one,
the
Virginia
locality
student,
core
Senate
rights
and
Productions.
Just
because
they've.
C
C
A
Stick
with
that
then
I
would
probably
say
the
accessible
units,
then
the
anti-retaliation
and
then
the
moon
fund,
but
I'm
just
kind
of
spitballing.
With
that
priority
sounds
good
to
me.
A
Okay,
any
other
discussion,
or
you
know,
thoughts.
A
Okay,
let's
go
and
click
okay.
Do
I,
have
a
motion
to
adopt
the
four
priorities
that
we
just
discussed.
Motion
do
I
have
a
second
okay.
Let's
do
roll
call.
A
Commissioner
Macbeth
votes.
Yes,
commissioner
Montgomery.
Yes,
commissioner
surface,
yes,
Mr
mcgilbride!
Yes,
commissioner
heminger!
Yes,
commissioner
Norris,
yes,
Mr
Wagner,
yes,
Mr
Brown,
yes,
great!
It
unanimously
passes.
Thank
you.
So
much
and
development
updates.
I
Okay,
so
I
have
a
quick
update
for
you
and
then
I
have,
as
I
mentioned.
I
Share
this
so
starting
with
a
verbal
update,
so
want
to
start
this
by
saying
nothing
is
changing
with
the
property,
the
loan
or
anything
substantial.
But
you
will
see
going
forward
to
the
County
Board
this
month.
Fort
Henry
Gardens
is
amending
and
restating
the
inner
creditor
and
subordination
agreement.
I
I
The
current
lender
community
housing
Capital
to
reduce
its
interest
rate
from
seven
and
a
half
percent
to
5.7
percent.
So
it
is
a
six
million
dollar
loan
for
a
four-year
term
and
is
intended
to
be
a
bridge
loan.
While
the
borrower
continues
to
explore
renovation
and
Redevelopment
options
for
the
property.
I
No
new
County
funds
required
for
the
proposed
action
and
the
there's
the
existing
loan
terms
on
the
2015
County
loan
that
remain
unchanged
so
just
wanted,
if
any
to
alert
you
to
that.
If
you
see
that
on
the
county
board's
agenda,
there's
no
material
changes
to
the
loan,
it's
just
we're
re-subordinating
our
loan
so
that
they
are
able
to
refinance
so
any
questions
on
that
before
I
move
into
the
meetings,
part.
I
Okay,
let
me
assumed
in
okay
so
starting
well,
this
one
happened
tonight.
Obviously
no
one
could
attend,
but
starting
here
we
need
representatives
for
these
four
River
House
lrpcs,
so
River
House
is
going
to
be
a
site
plan,
but
it's
actually
a
it's
a
very
large
scale
site
plan
with
many
different
buildings
and
sites
to
it.
So
that's
actually
going
through
the
long
range
Planning
Commission
before
it
even
goes
to
the
site
plan
review.
Commission,
our
committee,
so
there's
kind
of
two
long-range
planning
processes
with
that.
I
V
I
You
do
you
have
a
team
so
unfortunately,
for
those
three
special
glove
studies,
there
are
no
dates
decided.
Yet
I
did
let
planning
now
it's
easier
to
get
Representatives
when
you
know
the
date
but
yeah
I,
guess
that's
that's.
Why
that's
why
I
have
the
alternate
there
just
in
case
it
doesn't
work
out
all.
V
V
Yeah
I
might
go
anyway,
if
you
can
just
because
there's
a
personal
interest
there,
yeah
so
Sasha,
but
me
as
an
alternative.
A
V
I
I
will
definitely
get
it
and
then
I
will
send
it
out
to
the
rep
and
the
alternate,
but
you
can
also
subscribe
to
I
think
it's
planning,
General
planning
emails
and
then
you'll
get
every
meeting
update.
Do
that
way.
So,
okay.
W
I
Okay,
now
what
and
then
I
would
also
add
these
special
Club
studies.
They
are
something
that
pretty
sees
the
sprc
so.
I
To
really
get
the
foot
in
the
door
early
and
affect
what
the
policy
is
going
to
look
like
for
that
study
area,
so
we
have
Margaret.
I
Millwood
is
there
anyone
that's
interested
in
the
River
House
long-range,
Planning
Commission?
That's.
I
So
that
is
it's
like
a
little
north
of
Crystal
City.
A
W
A
Email
me,
some
of
the
Fishers
can
do
it
and
then.