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A
Guys,
I,
you
know
I
think
for
purposes
of
our
call
tonight.
I
think
the
big
topic
of
discussion
is
going
to
be
around
the
ordinance
and
so
to
ensure
we're
maximizing.
You
know
maximum
participation
of
our
fellow
Commissioners,
maybe
we'll
Reserve
that
and
we'll
roll
through
the
other
items
on
the
agenda
to
give
folks
some
time
to
get
in
the
room
before
we
get
into
the
meaty
stuff.
So
I
have
circulated
a
copy
of
the
January
minutes.
I
was
chuckling
to
myself
today,
as
I
was
recirculating
it
because
I
realized.
A
We
didn't
actually
conduct
ordinary
business
in
February
because,
as
you
all
know,
we
had
a
lengthy
appeal
and
then
in
March
we
couldn't
actually
achieve
Quorum.
So
we've
actually
not
had
opportunity
to
approve
our
January
minutes,
but
I've
recirculated
them
earlier
sent
them
around
in
January.
Have
those
of
you
on
the
phone
had
an
opportunity
to
take
a
gander
through
those
minutes?
A
Okay,
all
in
favor,
thanks
Sean,
all
in
favor,
aye
aye
any
opposed
great
okay,
so
the
January
minutes
have
passed
unanimously
via
our
Quorum.
Here,
gurji
can
I
kick
it
over
to
you
for
the
executive
director's
report,
yep.
C
Nothing
new
to
report
on
here.
Just
you
know
at
some
point
I
know
you
guys
have
been
busy
with
your
ordinance
getting
that
wrapped
up,
but
at
some
point
I
know
how
and
you
and
the
Commissioners
had
asked
to
see
if
we
could
get
the
vendor
for
the
AAP
back.
So
you
know
just
when
you
have
time
just
circle
back
and
let
me
know
what
month
you're
still
thinking
for.
C
A
I
mean
we'll
go
back
through
all
of
the
notes
and
the
minutes
of
our
prior
discussion
around
it,
but
I
think
guys
on
the
phone.
Please
course
correct
me:
I
think
what
we
wanted
to
see
was
the
same
training
that
they
give
to
that
that
the
vendor
is
giving
to
the
workforce
so
that
all
of
the
Commissioners
have
the
benefit
of
understanding.
A
C
Okay,
so
the
workforce
heard
from
the
vendor
really
for
the
first
time
and
kind
of
a
training
type
thing
on
December
1st.
That
was
the
first
time
we
tried
it
with
a
broader,
broader
Workforce,
like
they
basically
invited
it,
kept
it
open
to
anybody.
So
I
think
that
may
have
been
what's
inspired.
You
know
like
at
I,
mean
Spartan
Commissioners
to
ask
for
the
same
training
so
I'll
have
her.
C
C
Know,
I,
don't
think
the
slides
are
very
long.
I
think
we
allotted
an
hour
for
the
overview
just
in
case
there
were
questions
from
folks
and
again
this
was
open
to
anybody,
whether
it
was
a
HR
folks
or
directors
or
anyone
to
come
and
attend.
So
we
can
it's
up
to
you
how
long
you
want
her.
If
you
just
wanted
to
go
over
the
slides,
without
probably
say
15-20
minutes
but
I,
imagine
you'd
probably
want
some
q
a
so
you
may
want
a
lot
at
least
45
total
I
would
think
at
minimum
yeah.
A
That's
great
I
think
we
do
want
the
Q,
a
and
I
think
we'd
love
to
see
whatever
the
workforce
has
seen
and
if
there's
any
other
component
of
it,
that
gets
a
little
bit
more
granular
on
the
plan
that
mimics
what
we
would
have
seen
last
year,
I
think
that
was
helpful
to
the
Commissioners
I
think
it
was
a
fruitful
session.
So
you
know,
if
there's
anything
deeper,
that
she
want
he
or
she
wants
to
get
into
with
us.
I
think
we
do
welcome
it.
Okay
sounds
good
awesome.
A
A
Okay,
all
right
now
we
could
Sean
sort
of
kick
around
the
member
reports
right
now,
I'm
just
sort
of
looking
to
see
who
we've
got
so
far.
Anything
Sean
on
the
equality
task
force
front.
C
D
Just
just
like
an
introduction,
because
you
know
we
there
was
that
change
in
personnel
and
they
have
been
sort
of
radio,
silent
and
that's
kind
of
yeah.
C
C
D
A
Sorry
guys
I
have
I
think
I
have
a
delay
on
my
computer,
so
my
apologies.
If
I'm
cutting
anybody
off,
it's
not
intentional
Sean
question
for
you
on
a
quality
task
force
and
in
particular
the
Mei
score.
A
Are
you
still
tracking
on
the
anti-bullying
policy?
Inclusion
of
conversion
therapy
language
in
the
ordinance
I
think
that's
it.
Those
are
the
two
open
items
or
is
there
anything
else.
D
C
Yeah
I
think
two
of
those
things,
though,
and
I
don't
want
to
put
Anna
on
the
spot,
because
I
haven't
looked
at
it
recently,
but
we
there
are
two
things
that
we
I
think
didn't
get
credit
for
and
the
and
that
we
should
have
one
they
fixed
actually,
which
was
LG.
Tvq
liaison
and
I've
been
on
I've
been
that
since
I've
been
here,
but
for
some
reason
they
used
to
give
us
credit
last
year
did
and
then
they
fixed
it.
C
But
the
other
thing
was
the
benefits
and
they
specifically
I
think
they
wanted
a
certain
piece
of
information
beyond
what
we
submitted
like
something
from
Kaiser,
saying,
specifically
in
a
certain
way,
and
you
know,
without
being
able
to
reach
them,
like
I,
think
I've
shared
the
commission
earlier
when
we
were
trying
to
get
a
score
correction,
even
though
we
have
a
perfect
score.
There
were
some
areas
where
we
could
have
gotten
bonus
points
that
we
didn't,
and
it
was
not
due
to
what
we
thought
were
responsive
responses,
but
they
just
don't.
D
Yeah
I
think
a
lot
of
it
was
a
staff
turnover
as
well.
So
hopefully,
they've
got
some
stability
now,
since
Colin
left-
and
you
know,
the
new
staff
is
transitioning
on
on
board
and
stuff
and
and
I'll
reach
out
again
just
to
make
sure
because
usually
they'll
send
out
the
Mei
sort
of
the
you
know
the
draft
of
what
they're
looking
for
around
the
June
time
frame,
if
that's
my
understanding
and
then
so,
we'll
get
the
sort
of
the
the
preview
of
that.
D
So
we'll
keep
we'll
keep
pinging
them
gurjit
and
if,
if
I
hear
something
I'll,
certainly
let
you
know
and
that
way
we
can
make
contact
with
the
staff.
There
perfect.
A
And
and
just
and
again,
I'm
putting
a
really
fine
point
on
this
issue
only
because
it's
going
to
relate
to
what
we'll
talk
about
with
respect
to
the
ordinance
and
I
wish,
we
had
more
people
on
the
line,
but
I'll
just
roll
into
it
for
the
sake
of
having
a
a
cohesive
meeting
here,
we're
gonna
have
to
decide
tonight
on
what
our
strategic
approach
is
going
to
be
with
respect
to
the
ordinance
right,
and
one
of
the
paths
will
be
to
include
a
very,
very
light
markup
for
now.
A
A
You
up,
Whitney,
we've
kind
of
rolled
through
the
other
administrative
pieces
of
our
agenda,
so
that
we
can
really
Reserve
our
time
for
a
good
fulsome
discussion
on
the
ordinance
and
where
we
were
was
just
hearing
from
Sean
on
the
equality
task
force
and
some
of
the
missing
pieces
that
will
factor
into
a
higher
score
on
the
Mei
index
and
and
one
of
those
three
open
pieces
is
whether
we
have
legislated
for
the
conversion
therapy
ban
and
and
if
we
have
that
in
our
local
ordinance,
we
fare
better
on
the
Mei
index,
which
is
a
very
good
thing
for
us.
A
But
let
me
start
by
just
giving
everybody
on
the
line
who's,
not
on
the
drafting
committee,
an
overview
of
the
work
that
has
happened
today.
Okay,
this
exercise
started
in
I
believe
Roland.
You
course
correct
me:
if
I
get
any
of
the
history
wrong
here,
but
I
think
in
2019,
with
a
drafting
committee
comprised
of
a
number
of
Commissioners
Roland
included
as
well
as
some
folks
who
have
departed
from
the
commission.
So
this
would
have
included
Paul,
Lewis
and
and
maybe
a
few
others
when
Stephen
joined
the
commission.
A
Stephen
joined
the
drafting.
Commission
Roland
has
been
continuously
on
it
at
some
point,
Carol
joined
it
as
well,
and
then
I
joined
back
up
after
I
returned
from
maternity
leave
and
so
did
Whitney.
So
we've
had
a
lot
of
people
touch
the
ordinance
over
time
in
Roland,
2020
I
think
it
was
either
December
of
2019
or
January
of
2020.
I.
Think
you
submitted
a
markup
of
the
ordinance
to
the
board
where
it
languished
in
covid
times
for
for
a
pretty
significant
chunk
of
time.
A
We
did
that
I
think
it
was
in
February
or
early
March,
and
then
we
reconvened
the
drafting
committee
to
work
through
those
edits
and
get
alignment
from
the
drafting
committee
on
what
the
full
package
you
know
from
our
perspective
needs
to
look
like
inclusive
of
all
of
the
edits
that
we
want
to
include
aspirationally.
A
Once
the
drafting
committee
was
comfortable
with
that
which
was
sort
of
mid-march,
we
took
that
package
and
we
gave
it
back
to
the
county
attorney
to
say:
listen,
we've
Incorporated,
all
your
feedback
from
last
summer.
We've
worked
it
through
as
a
committee
and
as
a
commission
here
it
is.
We
hope
that
we're
pretty
close
to
final
off
we
go
in
the
meantime,
as
County
Attorney's
Office
was
reviewing
the
the
markup
that
we
gave
them
in
March.
Whitney
has
gone
through
a
campaign
of
meeting
individually
with
several
of
the
board
members
to
preview.
A
A
What
is
coming,
what
what
changes
we
want
to
see
and
I
also
put
a
little
Tickler
in
there
Sean
on
the
anti-bullying
policy,
which
is
also
languished
just
like
the
initial
draft
of
the
of
the
ordinance
has
just
to
make
sure
it's
on
everybody's
radar
screen.
So
tonight,
after
we
hear
from
Whitney
on
what
the
kind
of
temperature
is
of
the
board
members,
we
need
to
decide
what
iteration
of
the
ordinance
we
want
to
present
and
when
and
I'll
walk
you
through
what
the
options
are
momentarily
but
Whitney.
E
E
So,
as
many
of
you
know,
I
am
not
only
a
commissioner,
but
I
am
the
President
one
of
the
co-founders
of
black
parents
of
Arlington,
and
so
I
have
been
lobbying
back
and
forth
with
various
County
board
members
and
school
board
members
for
the
past
five,
seven
years
on
issues
with
regards
to
Human
Rights,
not
just
for
black
children,
but
for
our
marginalized
children,
for
free
reduced
lunch,
kids
for
all
racial
or
bipod,
kids,
I,
don't
like
the
word
minardi
English,
language,
Learners
and
children
with
disabilities,
and
so
so,
there's
always
there's
been
that
context
of
the
work
that
I've
been
doing.
E
The
temperature
is
particularly
since
there's
been
a
few
deaths,
untimely,
obviously,
and
unfortunate,
obviously,
in
our
schools
of
students,
one
a
few
years
ago,
at
Yorktown
and
in
terms
of
a
suicide
and
most
recently
at
Wakefield,
with
a
child
who
overdosed
in
the
bathroom
and
laid
unconscious
and
dying
with
no
one
coming
to
his
rescue
for
what
seems
to
be
an
incredibly
long
amount
of
time.
E
So
the
long
and
short
of
it
is
that
the
temperature
is,
is
it's
it's
one
of
those
it's
kind
of
like
the
racial
Reckoning,
with
George
Floyd,
right
like
when
you're
seeing
it
when
it's
impossible,
not
to
sort
of
Escape
it
one
of
the
things
that
I've
made
sure
that
the
county
recognizes
one
of
the
problems
with
the
county.
For
anyone
who
doesn't
know
is
that
we
have
a
school
board
and
we
have
a
County
Board
and
they
see
they
act
as
though
they
really
don't
have
anything
in
common.
E
So
the
schools
are
are
are
are,
are
are
seen
by
the
county
as
as
and
Stephen
understands
this
too,
and
you
may
be
able
to
say
it
in
a
more
effective
way,
but
the
county
is
always
like.
Well,
we
we
give
them
money,
but
we
really
don't
have
any
any
influence
or
or
determination
over
what
happens
in
the
school,
which
doesn't
really
make
much
sense.
And
then
the
schools
are
saying
well
we're
waiting
for
the
county
and
we
need
help
and
we
have
these
things.
E
So
it's
really
a
what
has
happened,
certainly
in
the
last
20
years,
at
least.
Is
that
we've
got
things
going,
one
in
the
schools
and
everyone's
like,
but
I
I
can't
do
anything
about
it.
I
don't
know
who's
going
to
do
anything
about
it
and
what
has
been
clear
and
what
I've
made
sure
that
the
County
board
members
know
is
that
Arlington
actually
has
a
long
history
of
being
on
the
more
Progressive
ends
of
human
rights
and
civil
rights.
E
What
we
call
it
in
this
country
when
it
comes
to
racial
Justice
and
that,
basically
for
for
lack
of
a
better
way
of
saying
it,
we
can
have
black
parents
of
Arlington
Sue
APS
schools
in
Arlington,
or
we
can
find
a
way
for
or
anyone
can
sue
anyone
to
just
we
live
in
America
or
we
can
find
a
way
for
parents
and
teachers
and
students
and
families
to
be
able
to
work
with
in
the
realm
of
the
Human,
Rights,
Commission
and
non-litigious
means
in
order
to
to
create
better
outcomes
for
students
and
families
and
teachers,
and
so
I
think
that
they
understand
that
again,
you
know,
I
was
just
talking
to
the
daughter
of
Dorothy
Hamm
and
again.
E
Arlington
in
1959
was
the
place
where
desegregation
actually
ended,
based
on
the
work
of
black
parents
and
black
mothers,
specifically
in
ensuring
that
there
was
racial
Justice
in
the
schools.
Black
parents
have
never
stopped
caring
about
that.
E
All
parents
care
about
those
things
for
their
children
and
we
we
need
to
figure
out
a
way,
hopefully
to
be
able
to
make
those
types
of
changes
in
the
school
system
and
and
investigations
into
what's
going
on
in
our
school
systems
that,
hopefully
one
would
imagine
that
there
are
other
ways
to
do
it
at
other
than
having
to
work
through
the
court
system.
E
So
I
think
that
they
understood
that
I
believe
that
there's
a
lot
one
of
the
things
that
I
said
to
all
of
them
is
you
know
it
is
on
all
of
us
that
as
a
mother,
it's
it's
I
care
that
I
I
really
care
that
there's
a
child
who
didn't
come
home,
that
there's
a
mother
who
moved
to
America,
assuming
that
they
were
moving
their
child
into
a
safe
space
and
the
child.
Never
came
home.
E
I
think
that
we
have
an
obligation
as
a
community
to
investigate
things
like
that
and
to
make
sure
that
we
are
doing
in
a
highly
wealthy
resourced
Community.
That's
also
highly
diverse
that
we
are
doing
the
best
that
we
can
in
terms
of
a
human
rights
mechanism
for
making
sure
that
the
most
marginalized
and
vulnerable
of
our
constituents
and
our
our
citizenry,
particularly
children,
are
protected.
So
that
seems
to
have
been
understood.
E
It
is,
and
Helen
you'll
go
into
it.
Why?
Even
though
there
are
so
many
there's
in
a
larger
mechanism,
I've
also
made
sure
that
they
understand
that
there
are
aspects
about
bullying
and
conversion.
E
But
to
that
extent
they
do
know
that
this
is
coming
in
general.
I
told
them
that
we
didn't
know
exactly
what
the
iteration
would
be
I
didn't.
Let
them
know
that
we
were
talking
to
the
county
attorney's
office.
I
am
of
the
impression
now
that
for
me
and
we'll
talk
about
it,
the
the
best
and
I
talked
to
Chris
at
length
after
his
conversation
with
the
county
attorney,
is
to
make
sure
that
we
give
because
of
the
situation
as
it
is
now.
E
If
anybody
does
not
know,
the
principle
of
Wakefield
has
been
reassigned.
As
of
the
next
school
year,
so
there
are
small
things
that
are
happening,
sort
of
kind
of,
but
there's
no
transparency,
it's
not
clear.
E
What's
going
on,
and
so
I
just
think
that
being
able
to
create
a
mechanism
that
doesn't
necessitate,
you
know,
litigation
for
these
schools
now
in
this
you
know,
hyper
sort
of
emergency
means
is
the
best
way
to
go,
but
with
them
also
understanding
that
within
a
few
months,
we
are
going
to
be
also
delivering
something
more
complete,
and
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
we
can
talk
about
is
maybe
it
it's
easier.
E
I
think
I
like
the
fact
that
we're
going
back
and
forth
with
the
county,
the
county
attorney's
office,
because
then
there's
less.
We
know
exactly
what
their
issues
are,
but
to
also
start
documenting
those
right
like
they
have
their
policy
complaints.
They
have
some
legal
issues
potentially
and
if
we
are
also
marking
them
and
submitting
those
along
with
whatever
our
recommendations
are
I
think
that
also
goes
a
long
way
in
the
broader
change
to
the
ordinance
and
I.
Think
that
now
we
start
with
this
is
the
change
that
we
want
to
make.
E
We,
whether
it's
all
public,
all
educational
institutions,
whether
it's
public,
but
we
we
submit
what
we're
submitting
and
then
we
give
at
least
a
understanding
what
the
county
attorney's
counter
argument.
Is
we
give
our
argument
as
to
why
we
as
the
Human
Rights
Commission,
believe
that
it's
necessary
now
and
why
it's
imperative
for
them
to
do
and
I
think
that
that
will
be
very
helpful
in
having
them
understand
why
it's
so
important
and
why
we
want
to
do
it.
F
One
Whitney
that
was
really
a
informative
and
compelling
and
I
really
appreciate
a
all
the
work
that
you've
done
on
this
over
many
years.
I
think
it's
really
important,
I
guess
what
I
don't
know
and-
and
this
is
is
kind
of
ignorance
of
the
of
the
the
legal
framework.
F
F
We
have
the
legal
right
to
control
processes
in
changes
in
the
school
and
is
it
the
county
that
actually,
if
I'm,
if
the
ordinance
doesn't
currently
anticipate
that,
does
the
county
actually
think
that
they
don't
have
the
right
under
the
the
Dylan
rule,
to
kind
of
mix
the
county
in
the
in
the
school
issues
so
I
this
I'm
speaking
from
ignorance
and
basically
ignorance
from
the
last
time
I
was
on
the
commission,
which
would
rather
than
well
I.
Don't
know,
what's
happened
much
in
the
last
10
years
or
so.
E
We
can
ask
and
suggest
and
recommend
the
County
Board
does
not
have
to
take
the
action
they
don't
have
to
agree
by
any
stretch
of
the
imagination,
but
we
also
I
mean
we
have
the
right
to
recommend.
They
have
the
right
to
either
agree,
not
agree,
do
what
we're
proposing
not
do
it?
They
there
is
the
concept
of
of
media
and
transparency
and
and
how
things
look
right.
E
But
we
can
suggest
highly
the
reasons
why
it's
in
the
best
interest
of
the
county,
to
do
this,
as
opposed
to
continuing
to
do
nothing
and
what
I
will
say
is
you
know
the
people
aren't
on
the
County
Board
because
they
don't
care
about
people
and
children.
So
these
are
people
who
it's
supposed
to
be
a
part-time
job.
E
F
Can
I
say
one
more
thing
and
I'm
sorry
for
for
asking
another
follow-up,
my
sense
from
when
the
County
Attorney
weighed
in
whenever
it
was
last
summer
that
they
seem
to
be
very
risk
adverse
and
they
didn't
want
to
use
additional
resources.
F
A
Take
that
one
I'll
take
that
one
right
which
really
quick
and
yeah
I
I
track
your
your
questions,
Stephen
exactly
and
the
only
other
update
for
the
benefit
of
this
group
is
about
an
hour
and
a
half
ago
we
got
an
itemized
list
of
of
issues
from
the
county
attorney's
office
with
the
latest
markup,
and
what
is
conspicuously
missing.
Stefan
is
an
argument
that
we
don't
now.
She
may
still
make
it,
but
she
did
not
say
in
her
issues
list
that
she
thinks
that
it's
jurisdictionally
problematic
under
Dylan's
Rule.
A
That
might
be
our
lobbying
effort
with
the
general
assembly
next
year
or
the
like,
but
I
think
that
we
probably
do
have
a
bit
of
Wiggle
to
suggest
that
there
is
no
reason
why
our
ordinance
could
not
Encompass
schools
and
I
really
liked
Whitney
what
you
had
just
said,
because
it
distilled
perfectly
down
to
this
issue
of
how
can
the
the
county
schools
be
governing
and
investigating
themselves
on
issues
of
this
material
importance
right,
so
I'm
optimistic
Stefan
that
we're
not
going
to
get
us
precise,
Dylan's
rule
Challenge
on
the
jurisdictional
issue
could
be
coming,
but
it's
not
in
what
came
across
before.
A
Just
for
the
sake
of
completeness
and
to
build
on
what
Whitney
said
and
again-
and
let
me
just
echo
my
thanks
to
you
that
was
really
really
fulsome
and
I
appreciate
all
the
informational
overview
of
it,
but,
more
importantly,
the
work
that
you're
doing
and
have
been
for
so
many
years.
It
sounds
like
your
work
was
well
received
and
was
excellently
and
beautifully
articulated
and
and
obviously
one
of
the
most
important
things
we
could
do
as
a
commission.
A
So
we
were
optimistic.
The
drafting
committee
was
anyway
that,
with
all
of
the
iteration
work
that
we
had
done
in
incorporating
the
county
attorney's
feedback
from
last
summer,
I
think
Stephen
and
I
were
hoping.
We
would
have
sent
that
across
and
she
would
have
been
like
looks
good
two
issues.
Nope,
we
got
sort
of
eight
or
nine
issues
that
came
through,
which
says
to
me.
A
The
exercise
of
getting
the
full
package
completely
vetted
through
county
attorney's
office
is
going
to
take
time
right
and
it's
not
something
that,
even
if
we
tee
it
up
to
the
County
Board
in
April
they're,
going
to
send
it
back
over
to
County
attorney
and
they're,
going
to
iterate
on
a
number
of
these
issues,
all
the
while
we're
waiting
to
get
the
answer
on
this
school's
issue.
Okay.
A
So
to
put
a
really
fine
point
on
the
options
that
we
see
at
the
drafting
committee
level,
all
right
option,
one
in
light
of
the
urgency
that
we're
hearing
Whitney
talk
about
in
terms
of
getting
schools
jurisdictionally
covered
by
our
ordinance,
so
that
we
have
investigative
Authority
and
some
recourse
for
marginalized.
Folks.
That
should
be
should
have
access
to
to
the
protections
of
our
ordinance.
A
We
do
a
very,
very
streamlined
markup
right
now,
where
all
we
do
is
make
the
jurisdictional
change
to
say
and
by
the
way
the
current
version
of
the
ordinance
says
this.
These
rules
apply
to
any
and
all
private
schools,
so
what's
accepted
from
the
current
version
of
the
ordinance,
our
public
schools
and
public
universities,
okay,
so
option
one
right
now
is
a
very,
very
light
markup
that
just
changes
that
to
say
any
public
or
private,
school
or
university,
so
that
we're
very
explicitly
picking
up
jurisdictionally
schools
within
the
scope
of
our
ordinance.
A
That
will
be
like
you
know,
if
you
think
about
the
red
line,
that's
like
a
little
bit
of
red
on
the
page
in
one
section,
and
everything
else
will
look
like
the
2020
ordinance
and
as
Whitney
is
describing
along
with.
That
would
be
a
bit
of
a
an
advocacy
piece
that
we
would
write
on
behalf
of
the
commission
explaining
the
why
we
think
that
this
is
important
and
explaining
the
urgency
while
previewing
that
there
is
an
ongoing
work
stream
to
make
other
critical
and
necessary
changes,
but
that
may
have
less
urgency
than
this
one.
A
Okay,
so
option
one
is
we
jurisdictionally
cover
schools?
We
do
it
now
and
we
continue
to
push
hard
with
County
attorney
option.
Two
other
end
of
the
spectrum.
Okay,
maybe
in
the
next
week
or
two,
the
drafting
committee
takes
on
board
the
edits
that
we
got
from
County
attorney
incorporates
them
does
whatever
we
can
within
our
comfort
zone,
to
get
those
revised
right,
and
then
we
submit
the
entire
package,
as
is
to
the
board.
A
It
will
include
schools,
but
the
it
may
not
be
immediately
approved,
but
we're
on
record
showing
exactly
what
we
are
asking
for
and
we've
done
a
lot
of
work
and
this
has
been
pending
since
2020,
and
so
it's
long
overdue.
Okay,
so
that's
that's
whole
Hawk
all
right.
The
third
option
is,
we
take
a
very
measured
approach,
so
not
as
light
a
red
line
as
just
schools,
but
we
add
things
that
we
think
are
Urgent
and
the
the
top
things
that
I
think
from
an
ordinance
committee
perspective
are
probably
the
the
highest
priority.
A
We
need
this
and
preview
that
more
is
coming,
but
there's
further
Cycles
to
be
done
with
County
attorney.
Okay,
so
that's
the
framing
super
light
markup
urgent
right
now
we
do
it,
we
submit
it.
We
can
turn
it
around
tomorrow
and
send
it
in
the
door:
okay,
Middle,
Ground
markup.
Maybe
it
will
take
a
week
or
two
longer
to
get
that
advocacy,
piece
written
or
three
whole
heart,
Whole
Hog.
A
So
let
me
stop
there
having
presented
what
the
options
are
and
Whitney
I
I
appreciate
you
sort
of
previewed
your
view
on
this
and
I
think
you
and
I
have
separately,
talked
to
Chris
to
get
his
perspective
on
it,
because
Chris
could
not
be
here
tonight,
but
he
wanted
the
two
of
us
to
share
his
views.
I
think
he
is
aligned
with
you
Whitney
in
thinking
that,
given
the
urgency
of
schools
and
the
inevitable
cycle
with
County,
Attorney's,
Office
lighter
markup
for
now,
with
preview
of
what's
coming.
A
Okay
do
other
folks
have
a
different
point
of
view
on
this
or
other
thoughts.
You
want
to
add
to
the
discussion.
B
Roland,
yes,
thank
you
Whitney
for
the
for
the
very
good
update
I
think
that
we
should
move
on
option
one
and
the
reason
why
is
this
dealing
with
the
schools
has
not
been
something
that
we
have
just
started
to
to
relate
to.
We
have
been
we've
had
an
educational
task
force
that
was
put
in
place.
An
educational
task
force
has
been
working
for
about
two
years.
Whitney
has
been
pretty
much
the
chair
of
it
on
that
task
force.
B
We
work
with
parents,
we
work
with
students
on
the
task
force.
We
also
have
had
people
from
the
school
board
to
actually
come
and
speak
to
the
task
force.
Individuals
such
as
their
diversity
officer
and
I,
think
and
I'm
subject
to
correction
by
Whitney
and
by
Stephen
I
think
we
even
had
the
chief
of
staff
to
the
school
board
to
actually
come
and
speak
to
the
education
task
force.
So
this
is
something
that
we
have
been
dealing
with
for
about
several
years
and
I.
B
The
commission
should
put
it
before
the
County
board
for
pretty
much
consideration
right
now,
I'm
a
little
concerned
that
if
we
start
putting
in
option
three,
even
all
of
those
which
are
in
option
three-
which
really
are
not
a
lot,
but
that
then
the
board
would
be
looking
at
all
of
the
other
things
which
would
be
proposed,
such
as
disabilities,
source
of
funds
conversion
therapy,
and
they
would
be
sort
of
expanding
the
consideration
of
it
to
the
extent
that
it
may
take
more
time.
B
The
question
as
to
whether
or
not
we
want
to
take.
We
want
to
look
at
jurisdiction
of
the
schools.
It's
pretty
simple.
It's
not
a
it's,
not
a
complicated
thing
to
consider.
Certainly
in
municipalities.
Here
in
this
area,
the
Human
Rights
Commission
has
authority
over
schools.
If
you
look
at
the
human
rights
ordinance
there
for
this
for
Alexandria,
it
has
some
jurisdiction
pretty
much
over
public
schools
there
as
well.
So
I
think
that,
because
of
the
sheer
importance
of
this
that
this
is
something
that
we
should
put
before
the
County
board.
B
Right
now,
and
by
the
way
in
the
discussions
that
the
draft
committee
has
had
with
the
city
attorney,
they
didn't
say
that
jurisdiction
or
our
request
through
assert
jurisdiction,
will
violate
in
any
way
the
Dylan
rule.
They
made
it
a
point
of
not
saying
of
saying
that
it
did
not
violate
the
Dylan
wall.
They
just
used
the
term
policy
considerations
for
the
whole
thing,
so
legally
I
think
we
would
be
pretty
much
on
sound
Realm
by
doing
it
so
I,
you
know
I'm
all
in
favor,
pretty
much
of
option.
One
okay.
D
My
comments
really
quick
and
and
I
I
concur
with
Roland's
comments
and
and
Roland's
point
and
Whitney's
as
well.
The
further
We
Kick,
the
Can
down
the
road,
the
longer
we
wait
and
we
get
nothing
done,
and
so
we
end
up
in
the
same
situation
that
we've
been
in
for
the
past
several
years
prior
to
my
time
and
so
to
to
engage
at
this
time
is
the
most
effective
time
to
do
so.
So
that
way
we
can
get
the
ball
rolling.
D
So
we
can
get
the
county
to
get
the
board
engaged
to
get
the
County
Attorney
engaged,
because
if
there
are
any
type
of
legal
conflicts
that
we're
able
to
resolve
those
quicker
at
the
front
versus
getting
everything
through
and
then
at
the
back
side
find
out.
There's
a
legal
challenge
to
some
aspect
within
the
ordinance
itself.
So
I
totally
concur
with
that,
and
you
know
the
the
course
I
had
getting
it
to
the
board.
G
Thank
you,
so
I'll
just
be
really
brief
about
this
I.
Don't
think,
there's
any
maybe
dissenter
opposition,
but
I
just
want
for
the
record
to
be
clear.
That
from
my
position
is
that
if
you
combine
all
of
the
other
edits
to
the
ordinance
that
we're
talking
about,
they
will
not
get
anywhere
close
to
the
met
the
possible
impact
to
this
one
edit
regarding
the
schools
we'll
have
in
Arlington
County,
and
so
with
that
I
certainly
support
option
one.
G
My
only
hesitation
is
that
if
it
takes
us
as
long
to
draft
our
advocacy
piece,
then
perhaps
we
consider
option
two
as
well.
If
we're
gonna
be
waiting
anyway,
so
if
advocacy
piece
can
be
done
relatively
quickly
to
get
option
one
out
the
door
ASAP,
let's
do
it
if
we
think
we
need
a
few
weeks
or
a
month
to
get
that
paper
written
and
circulated
and
approved
and
edited,
and
whatever
else
could
happen
to
it,
then
perhaps
you
know
during
that
time
we
can
work
on
option
two.
A
Thanks,
Steve
and
I
think
that's
a
really
good
point
about.
You
know
the
trying
to
get
it
done
very
very
quickly
and
on
that
point
you
know
I
would
ask
for
maybe
Steven
Whitney
you
and
I.
Could
the
three
of
us
could
maybe
convene
and
think
through
what
is
our
strongest
positioning
in
that
regard?
To
put
that
advocacy
piece
together,
I
think
Whitney.
You
have
a
lot
of
the
facts.
A
Statistics
and
the
data
points
around
the
urgency,
and
then
we
can
sort
of
layer
in
you
know
some
of
the
other
legal
considerations
as
well
Stephen
that
we've
been
working
towards.
A
Okay,
Sean
is
your
hand
up
again:
okay,
oh.
F
Yeah
I'm
I'm,
frankly
fine
with
with
whatever
option
one
sounds,
sounds
good,
but
I
wonder
whether
there's
a
possibility
of
putting
this
of
kind
of
doing
two
presentations
to
the
County
Board,
simultaneously,
one
flagging
the
school
issues
and
saying
why
we
think
it's
so
important
and
so
important
now
and
then
everything
else
as
a
second
as
a
separate
thing,
but
not
waiting
a
year
to
present
it
to
them
so
that
they
they
have
the
same
information.
They
know
why
we've
segregated
out
one
set
of
issues,
but
maybe
it
would
move
everything
forward.
A
And
Stefan
in
your
just
sort
of
building
out
your
straw
man,
would
you
suggest
sending
the
sort
of
current
version
of
the
entire
package
that
is
still
subject
to
county
attorney's
review
so
that
the
board
members
have
a
line
of
sight
on
what
we're
proposing
or
would
you
suggest
waiting
until
we
get
through
the
next?
You
know
month
or
two
of
Cycles
with
with
Jenny
Sadler.
F
A
Think
our
thinking
with
option
one
would
be
within
the
next
week
or
two.
We
have
the
marked
ordinance
the
advocacy
piece
and
we
submit
it
up
to
the
board
under
HRC
letterhead
right
and
if
we
do
that
at
the
same
time,
we'll
still
be
working
with
county
attorney's
office
to
try
to
resolve
her
issues
list
and
literally
as
soon
as
we
are
done,
modifying
whatever
we
can
before
we're
at
a
policy
impasse.
A
We
would
then
package
that
up
under
separate
cover
and
send
that
along
as
well,
and
so
you
know
in
a
perfect
world,
I
can
see
the
school's
modification
Amendment
going
up
in
April
and
the
other
piece
going
up
in
the
summer
right.
If
we
move
fast
enough
and
so
I
guess
the
question
back
to
you
is,
if
that
was
the
Cadence,
that
we
could
shoot
towards.
Does
that
sit
right
with
you?
Are
you
thinking
that
we
just
go
ahead
and
do
it
all
in
April
and
say
this?
Is
the
current
version
we're
working
on
it?
F
I
didn't
realize
that
that
was
a
possibility.
I
actually
think
that
that
would
be
better
a
we
get
two
bytes
of
the
apple
and
B
this
school
stuff
doesn't
get,
doesn't
get
kind
of
jump
jumped
in
with
everything
else
and
kind
of
lost,
and
they
go
off
on
a
on
some
other
particular
point
and
and
kind
of
miss.
The
the
big
one
I'd
be
comfortable
with
that.
If
you
think
we
actually
would
be
able
to
make
two
presentations
or
send
two
things
up
and
not
wait
another
year
for
the
second
one.
E
Ahead,
no,
no
thank
you
so
I
agree.
So
what
I've
basically
been
saying
is
this
is
coming.
We've
been
waiting
on
all
these
things
for
years
now
we're
at
a
point
where
this
is
an
emergency.
You
guys
are
like.
We
don't
know
what
to
do
the
school's
like
we
don't
know
what
to
do,
but
what
I've
also
been
saying
is.
E
This
is
also
a
time
to
to
look
at
this
as
an
emergency,
but
to
recognize
that
this
is
not
a
good
way
to
do
business
waiting
for
the
emergency
and
having
to
piecemeal
things
is
actually
not
a
good
way
to
do
it.
So
we're
going
to
take
this
and
have
you
vote
on
this
now,
but
with
the
understanding
that
all
of
these
other
things
are
coming
and
we
would
like
for
you
to
not
sit
on
them
for
two
years
to
have.
God
only
knows
what
happens
in
18
months
happen.
E
So
then
we
have
to
go
through
the
same
type
of
thing
and
piecemeal
it
so
they're
they.
They
do
understand
it
from
a
strategy.
Point
of
view,
to
the
extent
that
I
understand
that
I
I
understand
the
the
the
the
the
pull
when
you
are
a
County
employee,
but
to
the
extent
that
we're
coming
with
not
just
good
policy,
excellent
legal
concepts
with
our
neighboring
partner,
you
know
neighboring
jurisdictions
who
are
doing
this,
but
there's
a
huge
ethical
issue
right
or
the
human
rights.
So
it's
not
just
law,
it's
also
ethics.
E
It's
morals!
It's
who
are
we
as
a
community
and
there's
the
strategy
in
if
we're
getting
a
lot
of
pushback
from
the
county
attorney
on
just
being
like
hey,
maybe
someone
other
than
the
school
should
be
looking
at
what
the
schools
are
doing,
then
that
also
is
going
to
make
sure
the
County
Board
when
they're
getting
the
they're
going
to
be
set
up,
because
we've
been
talking
about
this
to
understand,
what's
more
important,
covering
your
behind
and
making
sure
that
that
like
there's
a
lot,
listen,
including
the
schools,
means
a
lot
more
liability.
E
There's
a
lot
more
people,
there's
a
lot
more
work.
That
has
to
be
done.
No
one
is
suggesting
that
that's
not
the
case.
What
we're
saying
is:
there's
a
moral
imperative
to
not
make
that
the
number
one
thought
so
if
what
we're
doing
is
being
pushed
back
by
yes,
but
this
is
a
lot
more
work
than
that.
Actually
may.
E
If
that's
really
the
argument,
if
that's
the
big
policy
argument,
is
that
it's
hard,
then,
when
we
come
back
with
these
other
things,
the
County
Board
is
already
understanding
that
the
county
attorney's
office
is
coming
from
yeah,
but
we
just
don't
want
to
do
this
much
more
work
because
it's
hard,
even
though
we're
talking
about
people's
human
rights.
That
may
or
may
not
be
important.
So
from
a
strategy
perspective,
if
we're
getting
pushback
on
the
one.
E
Little
thing
that
we're
asking,
which,
from
a
human
rights
perspective,
is
highly
reasonable
and
again
one
could
suggest,
is
a
moral
imperative
based
on
the
equity
resolution
that
was
passed
by
Christian
Dorsey
when
he
was
the
chair
four
years
ago
and
is
the
current
chair.
If
there's
pushback
there,
then
this
is
a
really
good
strategy
way
for
us
to
get
it
across
with
the
understanding
that
what
we
care
about
in
our
commission
is
the
human
rights
of
the
people
who
live
in
work
and
and
are
educated
in
Arlington.
And
that's
our
number
one
concern.
B
I
yeah
I
I
see
nothing
wrong
with
sending
just
option
one
up
there
immediately,
even
though
there
are
several
things
that
we're
pretty
much
doing,
because
in
the
past
we
have
sent
as
a
commission
several
things
up
to
the
County
Board
and
some
of
them
the
County
Board
worked
on
and
some
of
them
the
County
Board
hasn't.
For
example,
the
bullying
policy
has
been
up
there
for
five
years,
so
we
have
been.
We
have
proposed
something
like
that
for
five
years
and
they
still
haven't
done
it.
B
The
the
source
of
income
we
have,
we
have
endorsed
pretty
much
the
source
of
income.
Nothing
has
pretty
much
been
done
pretty
much
on
that,
although
there
are
outside
groups
which
pressured
the
chairman
of
the
board
at
a
recent
meeting
of
the
NAACP
as
to
what
they're
going
to
do.
Surprisingly
enough,
when
the
chairman
of
the
County
Board
appeared
before
the
NAACP,
the
first
two
questions
that
he
was
asked
dealt
with,
the
Human
Rights
Commission
and
dealt
with
the
human
rights
ordinance.
B
So
there
is
a
concern
pretty
much
out
there
by
people
regarding
what
the
ordinance
should
be
doing,
and
the
group
said
the
ordinance
should
be
covering
and
I
think
for
us
to
send
this
up
as
a
separate
thing
to
the
board
would
emphasize
to
the
County
Board
that
the
commission
thinks
that
this
is
very,
very
important
and
should
be
considered
now
and
then
the
County
Board
can
decide
pretty
much
what
they're
going
to
do
with
it.
B
B
So
they
know
everything
about
the
Ordnance
they
and
we've
been
working
with
them,
and
they
know
you
know
legally
what
can
be
done
and
what
can't
be
done,
and
so,
if
we
present
this
to
them,
they're
certainly
are
not
going
to
be
surprised
about
it
and
I
frankly
think
they
probably
have
discussed
something
like
this
with
the
county
board
members,
but
I
think
we,
as
members
of
the
commission,
have
to
deal
with
our
statutory
obligation
and
our
statue
to
Our
obligation.
B
It's
very
clear
in
the
statute
is
that
we
have
you
have
the
duty
to
recommend
to
the
County
Board
changes
in
the
ordinance
that
we
think
would
be
necessary
in
order
to
fulfill
civil
rights
pretty
much
in
in
Arlington,
County
and
I.
Think
this
is
one
of
those
things
that
we
pretty
much
should
be
doing
and
I
think
we
have
a
statue
to
Our
obligation
to
do
it.
A
Thanks
Roland
and
to
build
on
that
I
think
it's
just
simply
not
uncommon
that
there's
iteration
to
an
ordinance,
and
there
are
amendments
that
happen
over
time.
This
happens
with
Federal
statutes.
This
happens
with
other
jurisdictionals
other
jurisdictions,
ordinances
and
and
statutes.
So
I'm
not
overly
concerned
about
the
notion
of
doing
this
now
and
then
having
a
subsequent
update
after
we
get
over
the
hurdle,
the
prioritized
one
I
don't
frankly,
if
you
look
at
the
history
of
our
ordinance,
it
was
updated
in
2012..
A
It
was
updated
again
in
2020.,
now
we'll
be
23.,
hopefully
later
in
23.,
so
I
think
there
is
a
precedent
for
that
too.
A
B
A
B
F
F
E
Framing
go
ahead:
Whitney,
I'm,
sorry,
Helen,
but
but
I
think
that
that's
actually
part
of
our
argument
right
that
we
don't
want
to
have
to
keep
piecemealing
this.
We
don't
want
to
have
to
wait
till
emergencies.
These
are
the
types
of
things
that
we've
been
asking
for
you
to
do.
These
are
what's
coming
and
I
mean
you
know
we
can.
You
know
the
word
smithing
it,
but
I
think
that
that's
absolutely
appropriate
and
actually
helps
our
argument
in
why
this
really
could
have
been
done
differently
and
we
shouldn't
have
had
to
wait
for
two
years.
A
D
A
Any
opposed
all
right
guys.
We
have
a
game
plan
well
done
team
on
an
Ordnance
strategy.
So
in
terms
of
next
steps,
Whitney,
Steven
and
I
will
we'll
put
our
our
pens
to
paper
on
the
advocacy
piece
and
we
will
circulate
it
for
awareness
now.
There's
a
governance
Point
here,
I,
don't
know
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
vote
without
calling
another
meeting
on
the
advocacy
piece.
A
B
Yes,
I
I
just
want
to
make
a
point
that
is
I.
Don't
think
that
we
should
let
the
advocacy
piece
be
the
means
to
delay
getting
this
up
to
the
county
board.
So
I
say
that
and
to
because
I
think
that,
having
approved
the
option,
I
I
pretty
much
am
very
comfortable
just
leaving
it
up
to
the
chair
to
draft
the
advocacy
piece
and
the
chair.
G
A
Roland,
thank
you
for
that.
Anybody
have
a
different
point
of
view
on
that.
If
not
I
am
I
am
happy
to
work
with
Stephen
and
Whitney
and
we'll
get
it
out
and
we'll
drive
it
to
completion.
A
Excellent
okay,
I
think
we
have
gotten
through
pretty
much
our
entire
agenda
before
we
break.
Let
me
just
open
it
up
to
see
if
anybody
else
has
anything
to
add
by
way
of
member
reports,
there
are
going
to
be
a
lot
of
other
things
that
we'll
talk
about
with
a
broader
group,
but
I
really
reserved
our
time
today
on
ordinance
and
and
not
got
too
detailed
in
the
the
separate
member
reports.
F
This
isn't
a
a
report,
but
but
a
question:
I
thought
we
had
a
good
conversation
last
summer
or
fall
with
the
sheriff.
I
thought
it
was.
It
was
useful,
not
perfect,
but
but
useful
I
wonder
if,
after
the
upcoming
elections,
we
could
invite
the
new
sheriff
at
some
point,
this
fall
to
talk
about
similar
concerns
and
make
sure
that
that's
on
his
radar
screen.
F
E
If,
if
I
can
so,
yes
there's
a
primary
in
June
and
then
there's
a
general
election
in
November,
the
interim,
the
acting
Sheriff
can
come
and
speak
to
us
in
or
before
whomever
is,
is
campaigning.
There
will
be
a
lot
it'll
be
an
easier
campaign
after
June
there'll
be
an
easier
campaign
after
June
SO
waiting
until
after
November
isn't
necessarily
the
issue.
If
what
we're
really
garnering.
E
If
what
you
want,
Stephen
is
like
more
of
a
concept
about
what's
going
on
in
the
jails
and
what
the
the
current
Sheriff
has
been
doing
and
what
will
continue.
I
think
it
sounds
like
what
you're
saying
is
sometime
after
June,
even
if
it's
technically
before
the
actual
general
election
might
work.
E
Right
but
I
mean
he
will
have
been
the
the
Shara
for
a
year,
so
he
will
have
been
putting
things
in
place.
He
will
have
been
there's
still
the
opportunity
to
talk.
He
is
the
sheriff
and
as
a
person,
who's
talked
to
him.
There
are
differences
even
now
that
he's
instilled
from
his
predecessor
so
regardless
really
of
the
election.
It
would
not
be
untimely
to
have
a
talk
with
him
regarding
what
he's
put
in
place
in
the
year.
That
he's
been
the
sheriff.
A
Yeah,
you
know
we
are
off
in
August
as
per
our
usual
Cadence
and
we
still
have
not
gotten
a
date
for
the
Tiffany
Jocelyn
Forum.
So
I'll
suggest-
maybe
maybe
in
the
May
meeting.
If
there's
time
and
that's
going
to
be
when
we
have
our
affirmative
action
plan
vendor.
So
that
will
be
a
heavy
docket.
A
But
in
the
main
meeting,
maybe
we'll
take
a
look
at
our
our
upcoming
months
meetings
and
we'll
work
on
finding
a
good
opportunity
to
to
slot
him
in
gurjit
and
then
we'll
ask
for
your
assistance
and
teeing
that
up.
A
Okay,
any
other
comments
updates
okay
team.
Well,
thank
you
all
for
the
spirited
discussion.
We've
reached
a
really
good
outcome
here.
I
appreciate
everybody's
participation
and
really
hard
work
Whitney.
Thank
you
for
the
excellent
work
you're
doing
on
the
lobbying
front
and
to
the
entire
drafting
committee
excellent
job
on
putting
pen
to
paper
with
that
I'll
entertain
a
motion
to
adjourn.