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A
You're
totally
fine
Chris,
we
were
I
think
we
had
some
functionality
where
we
were
all
at
a
Lobby
and
we
needed
Anna
or
gurjit
to
let
us
in
so
gerjeet
was
great
and
she
was
able
to
hop
in
and
let
us
in
so
we'll
we'll
see
if
we
can
get
Stephen
and
Whitney
in
as
we
go.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
share
screen
just
so
that
we're
all
okay
I
am
a
I.
Am
a
zoom
user.
Okay
I
am
not
a
teams
user,
so
bear
with
me
now.
A
A
Whitney,
how
are
you
I'm
doing
all
right
guys?
How
are
you
doing
great?
Thank
you
so
much
for
joining
perfect
timing,
we're
just
launching
in
now
and
what
I
have
done
guys
is
I've
put
up
on
the
screen.
This
is
a
copy
of
the
March
2023
Marca
that
we
submitted
over
to
Ginny.
So
this
is
what
she
was
reacting
to.
This
is
in
track
changes
for
ease
of
our
further
editing.
A
What
I
did
just
so
that
we
can
sort
of
look
at
the
comments
and
then
toggle
to
the
portions
of
the
draft
that
implicates
it
is
I've
put
Ginny's
issues
list
in
this
comment
bubble
over
in
the
corner.
Can
you
all
see
that
okay,
okay,
all
right
and,
let's
maybe
just
kind
of
roll
through
them
from
a
high
level
perspective?
And
then
we
can
yeah
Chris
go
ahead.
B
B
I
am
deeply
appreciative
of
how
much
work
we
are
all
putting
in
on
this
and
when
I
say
we
I
mean
really
you
all
and
that
and
that
one
in
particular
I'm
a
little
tired
of
the
back
and
forth
on
this
and
I've
been
a
huge
advocate
for
I.
Don't
I'm
almost
at
the
point
where
I
don't
necessarily
care.
B
If
the
county
attorney's
office
agrees
with
us
or
not
on
on
these
matters,
I
want
to
send
a
version
up
to
the
board
and
let
them
fight
with
the
county
attorney's
office
or
make
a
public
declaration
they're,
simply
not
going
to
accept
our
our
requests
and
have
them
justify
it.
So
I
I'm,
just
mindful
that
I'm
pretty
sure
the
first
draft
of
this
could
have
gone
up.
That
y'all
came
up
with
like
two
years
ago,
could
have
gone
to
the
board
and
but
I
feel
like
they,
and
maybe
it's
not
a
nefarious
plot
here.
B
I
don't
know,
but
I
just
feel
like.
We
have
done
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
that
perhaps
should
have
been
on
the
board
and
the
county
attorney's
office
that
at
this
point,
if
they
take
our
recommendations
around
updating
the
ordinance
seriously,
so
I'm
just
want
to
be
mindful
of
like
how
much
more
of
this
do.
We
really
think
is
on
us
as
much
as
it
is
that
it
feels
like
death
by
a
Thousand
Cuts
of
edits
from
their
office.
I'm
saying
this
with
a
deep
information
for
Jenny,
but
I
just
feel
like.
B
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
up
front
and
I
and
I
don't
mean
to
derail
the
whole
meeting
and
and
but
I
I,
don't
know-
maybe
I'm
alone
in
this,
but
but
I'm
just
wondering
if
perhaps
like
what
are
we
are
we
trying
to
get
them
to
agree
with
us
at
this
point,
or
are
we
just
trying
to
make
sure
the
the
differences
are
really
sharp?
B
So
the
board
understands
them,
because
I
kind
of
feel
like
there
what's
happening,
is
exactly
what
the
accounting
attorney's
office
wants
to
happen,
which
is
we're
like
years
into
this
process
and
I,
don't
want
to
spend
more
two
more
years
working
on
this
or
and
really
y'all
have
done
the
work,
so
I'm
I'm,
really
just
amazing
I'm,
just
I'll
shut
up
but
sorry
roll.
It.
A
No,
no
Chris,
listen,
I,
think
totally
fair
point
and
well
taken
and
I.
Don't
disagree
at
all.
I
would
parse
it
some
okay
and
for
the
benefit
of
the
folks
on
this
call,
I
think
there
has
been
other
than
you
Roland
and
I.
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
our
sort
of
anchor
of
continuity.
Through
this
process,
we've
had
a
lot
of
different
Cooks
in
the
kitchen
on
this
exercise.
A
Okay
and
my
goal
as
I
think
about
this
is
to
eliminate
the
daylight
between
county
attorney's
office
and
what
we're
doing
and
In
fairness
to
what
county
attorney
has
done.
I
think
in
a
lot
of
respects
on
prior
iterations
of
their
draft,
they
actually
identified
some
pretty
fair
edits
that
needed
revision
and
refinement
from
the
drafting
committee
and
I
attribute
a
lot
of
that
to
a
lot
of
different
people
were
working
on
it.
There
were
some
Version
Control
issues
at
the
outset
and
they
are
actually
identifying
kinks
in
this.
A
Really
could
be
ironed
out
well
and
I.
I
am
very
encouraged,
I
mean
Chris.
If
you
saw
the
markup
from
a
year
ago
and
the
magnitude
of
brain
damage,
it
took
for
me
to
Version
Control
it
and
sort
out
what
was
modified
against
what
document
and
when
the
fact
that
we
have
seven
points
that
we
have
to
talk
about,
some
of
which
are
conceptual
and
fair
items,
shows
me
material
progress
now,
I
think.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
we
are
probably
going
to
get
to
two.
A
Maybe
three
areas
with
philosophical
disagreement
and
that's
fine,
but
I.
Think
our
lobbying
effort
to
the
board
is
going
to
be
cleaner,
crisper
and
easier
if
it's
all
the
all
the
other
Jazz
that
that's
just
sort
of
addressed
and
and
come
to
the
Wayside.
A
I'm
hopeful
that
Stephen
will
be
willing
to
continue
to
work
with
me,
because
he
has
also
been
a
laboring
ore
on
the
draft
on
any
implementation
that
we
need
to
make,
and
there
are
a
few
pieces
where
I
think
we're
going
to
need
his
help.
Okay,
so
and
last,
and
forgive
me
if
you
guys
can
just
call
off
mute
if
you
have
questions
because
I'm
sharing
screen
I
can't
really
see
you
so
if
I'm
barreling
over
you,
it's
not
intentional.
A
So
just
stop
me
if,
if
there's
any
preliminaries
before
we
launch
okay,
all
right,
look
definition
of
County,
Workforce,
I,
think
and
Roland.
Look
to
you
for
any
kind
of
historical
drafting
committee
Insight
on
this,
because
I
think
this
predates
me,
but
the
idea
was:
let's
broaden
it
up
right
and,
let's
extend
like
many
other
jurisdictions.
A
Do
the
the
at
least
the
employment
related
protections
of
this
ordinance
not
to
just
employees
but
just
put,
but
to
also
those
people
who
are
contractors
who
may
be
misclassified
or
what
have
you
and
so
I
think
the
spirit
of
the
edit
was
to
extend
the
definition
of
County
Workforce,
which
lives
down
here
to
contractors
as
well
as
employees
and
Jenny
makes
this
point
about.
Well,
you
know
we
actually
have
who
constitutes
a
contractor
defined
with
precision,
and
our
language
is
anyone
who
receives
a
benefit
which
I
kind
of
agree
with
Ginny.
A
D
It
all
started
out
as
a
very,
very
simple
effort
in
order
to
bring
the
local
ordinance
in
compliance
with
the
state
ordinance,
because
the
the
state
statute,
because
the
Democratic
legislature
had
expanded
rights
under
the
human
rights
statute,
which
we
did
not
have
in
our
local
ordinance,
so
the
so
what
started
out
as
an
effort
to
just
bring
the
local
ordinance
income
in
compliance
with
the
state
audience
resulted
in
something
that
was
Far
bigger
because
there
were
certain
members
of
the
commission
at
that
time,
and
a
couple
of
them
are
still
on
the
commission
who
took
the
position.
D
Well,
if
we're
going
to
send
something
up
to
the
board
in
which
we're
going
to
propose
changes,
then
there
are
all
these
other
things
in
the
in
the
ordinance
which
are
very,
very
old,
and
maybe
we
should
we
should
send
those
for
it
as
well.
We
should
do
it
all
pretty
much
at
one
time
instead
of
doing
it.
You
know
one
item
this
year,
one
item
next
year,
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
so
that
led
to
this
big
project.
D
To
do
it
pretty
much
this
way,
I
I
agree
with
you
and
Chris
that
this
is
taking
longer,
but
at
the
same
time,
I
think
working
with
the
County
Attorney's,
Office,
surprisingly,
I
think
is
going
to
speed
this
up
once
we
get
the
whole
thing
to
them,
because
then
they
can't
really
sort
of
rely
on
the
fact
that
oh
this
is
our
first
time
looking
at
this
we're
going
to
have
to
do
a
review
of
it.
D
We
have
been
working
directly
with
the
attorney
who's,
whose
job
it
is
to
review
this
and
to
and
to
make
the
recommendation
to
the
County
Board.
We
have
been
working
with
that
attorney.
Now
Grant,
you
is,
it
really
has
taken
too
long,
but
but
it's
to
our
benefit
when
it
efficient
when
it
is
officially
there,
but
I
take
the
position
it's
officially
there
and
it
was
sent
there
in
2020..
But
now
what
we're
doing
is
we're
working
as
I
look
at
it
we're
working
with
the
county
attorney
on
helping
them.
D
My
understand
my
past
experience
from
working
with
with
efforts
to
amend
the
statute
is
it
really
comes
as
a
recommendation
from
staff
we
may,
if,
if
recommendation
from
staff
doesn't
agree
with
us,
I
think
we
should
request
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
the
County
Board
on
what's
on
what's
before
them,
but
if
we
keep
working
with
the
county
attorney
and
we're
doing
it
now,
hopefully
that's
going
to
minimize,
what's
going
to
be
the
the
sort
of
discrepancy,
and
that
may
be
the
seven
that
that
Helen
is
talking
about
and
we
may
be
able
to
sort
of
dwindle
that
down
to
just
one
or
two
and
then
it
makes
it
a
very,
very
smooth
process,
I
think
once
it
goes
up
there
to
the
board,
we
don't
want
them
to
look
at
this
and
say:
oh
my
God
look
at
all
of
these
changes.
D
You're
doing
I
I'm
scared
about
making
all
these
things,
but
if
one
can
say
hey,
we
sat
down
with
it
with
your
attorney
and
there
was
a
back
and
forth
from
us,
and
this
is
the
finished
product
that
we
all
agree
on
this
one.
But
by
the
way
there
are
some
other
things
that
we
are,
that
we
agree
on
is
that
we
want
in
there
as
well
so
I
think
it
I
think
this
is
a
good
thing
that
we're
doing
it
it.
D
A
No,
no,
no,
no,
no
super
helpful,
Roland
and
I
think
there's
alignment
there
totally
is.
The
question
for
you
is:
are
when
we
wanted
to
include
the
definition
of
Arlington
County
Workforce
to
pick
up.
Contractors
am
I
right
that
the
original
drafting
committee
was
very
focused
on
picking
up
those
service
providers
and
those
workers
who
could
be
equivalent
to
misclassified
workers.
We
weren't
talking
about
really
anybody
who
receives
any
benefit
whatsoever
from
a
taxpayer-funded
revenue
in
exchange
for
services,
right,
I,
I,
think
so.
A
Okay,
and
that
being
the
case,
I
actually
think
that
Ginny's
edit
here
in
point,
one
that
you
can
see
over
here
in
the
margin
where
she's
referencing,
you
know
certain
contractors
that
have
contracts
worth
over
10K,
as
defined
in
this
other
area
of
the
Virginia
code,
might
be
a
nice
way
to
define
what
contractors
are
we
contending
are
covered
by
the
scope
of
this
ordinance
and
I
would
think
it
would
be
individual
contractors,
not
entities.
Do
you
all
agree
with
that
approach?
A
So
Jenny's
first
point
was
the
definition
of
County
Workforce.
Our
proposal
included
language,
which
is
here
in
blue
in
the
markup
that
anyone
that
receives
a
benefit
from
the
county
is
a
contractor,
as
defined
in
the
definition
of
Arlington,
Arlington,
County
Workforce,
and
therefore
all
of
those
references
to
the
Arlington
County
Workforce
would
pick
up
those
episodic
contractors
and
I
think
what
Ginny
is
saying
do
we
want
to
actually
put
some
Precision
around
which
contractors
would
be
covered
so
individuals
that
meet
the
definition
of
Virginia
this
Virginia
code,
2.2
4311.?
B
And
I'm
fine
with
that
as
well,
because
I'm
currently
prioritizing
completion
over
winning
out
an
argument,
but
the
county
transacts
a
significant
amount
of
its
operational
business
through
non-profits
that
I
I
can
double
check
the
Virginia
code
statute.
That
I
would
want
to
make
sure
are
inclusive
of
the
Virginia
code
statute.
B
For
example,
ahc
most
of
the
counties
housing
most
of
the
counties,
affordable
housing
units
are
managed
by
non-profits
under
contract
with
the
county
and
I
would
assume
that
we
would
want
their
behavior
to
be
regulated
by
the
ordinance
in
the
way
that
we've
made
changes.
So
I
think
it's
long,
and
it's
also
the
case
that
organizations
that
receive
grants
or
have
contracts
fall
into
the
category
of
contractors.
So
I'm
fine
with
what
adding
more
Precision
but
I
do
think.
B
It's
important
to
note
that
the
county
uses
contractors
to
significant
to
transact
significant
business,
and
so
things
like
ahc
or
other
housing
providers
to
make
sure
like
non-profits,
aren't
exempt
from
that
code
step
provision,
because
that
would
be
problematic
if
we
were
wanting
to
ensure
they're
concluded
in
that
Workforce
and
that's
ultimately,
what
concerned
me
is
that
when
a
government
uses
significantly
uses,
contractors
to
achieve
its
policy
ends
that
sometimes
insulates
those
contractors
from
responsibility
and
I
would
just
hate
for
us
to
be
doing
that
now
or
for
us
to
continue
that
so
I
won't
Define
Myself
by
looking
again
at
the
Virginia
code
statute,
that's
referenced
and
again
in
the
interest
of
wanting
to
get
this
going.
B
Getting
us
through
this
I'm
happy
with
more
Precision.
But
I
did
want
to
highlight
just
why
I
think
personally,
I
thought
that
the
addition
of
the
contractor
or
the
received's
payer
benefit
was
useful
so
that
the
county
couldn't
leverage
a
highly
technical
definition
to
insulate
certain
contractors
or
our
benefits
providers
from
from
scrutiny
so
and.
A
My
thinking
on
that
Chris
I
I
completely
agree
with
you
right.
My
thinking
on
this
under
the
construct
of
this
ordinance
is
that
actually
those
contractors
that
are
themselves
employing
workers,
non-profits
in
Arlington
and
are
providing
services
to
the
county,
are
going
to
be
separately
covered
by
the
purview
of
this
ordinance
because
they
are
employers,
yeah
right,
so
yeah.
A
So
those
let's
say
those
discriminated
against
employees
have
recourse
both
against
their
direct
employer,
the
non-profit,
potentially
against
the
County
under
series
of
joints,
several
liability
or
joint
employer
liability,
and
then
you
know,
arguably
they
may
be
able
to
take
the
position
that
they
are
individually
also
constituted
as
part
of
the
Arlington
County
Workforce.
B
Yeah
and
I
think
I
was
more
concerned
with
a
resident
in
the
same
way
that
our
education
expect
our
recommendation
to
expand
education
as
a
as
a
in
the
jurisdiction.
The
statute
of
the
ordinance
was
intended
to
ensure
that
parents
have
the
ability
to
file
claims,
not
just
employers
of
the
school
district,
so
my
concern
was
less
employees
but
more
of
residents
but
at
the
same
time,
they're,
obviously
residential
protections
throughout
the
ordinance
that
definitely
apply.
B
So
that's
why
I'm
not
going
to
die
on
the
hill,
but
I'm,
just
no
I
mean
nor
do
I
need
to
die
on
the
hill,
to
be
clear,
like
I.
Think
we're
I
think
that
the
specific
example
of
like
how
residents
and
and
an
HC
facility
can
file
independently
under
the
housing
protections
but
I'm
just
mindful
of
any
future.
B
You
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
scenario
by
which
a
County
resident
might
be
impacted
by
how
services
are
delivered
but
might
not
be
covered
by
the
ordinance
because
they're,
not
an
employee,
but
that
might
be
a
very
small,
thin
diagram
of
situations
and
so
I'm
comfortable
with
whatever
you
all
decide
in
terms
of
following
an
existing
definition.
Yeah.
A
And
Chris
I'd
ask:
can
you,
after
this
call,
is
sort
of
a
takeaway
just
take
a
spin
through
to
see
if,
if
the
concern
that
you're
identifying
still
exists,
because
my
understanding
of
the
construct
of
these
definitions
is
all
of
those
individuals
either
as
a
resident
or
as
an
employee
of
an
arlington-based
non-profit,
would
have
recourse
under
this
ordinance,
irrespective
of
this
edit?
But
if
you
see
that
there
there
is
some
subset
for
which
there
isn't
protection,
then
I
agree
with
you.
We.
E
A
Close
that
loophole
over
I'm
not
I'm,
not
sure
that
that
would
that
we
would
leave
those
people
without
recourse,
given
that
they
have
other
angles
to
the
protections
of
the
ordinance,
but
so
pending
Chris.
If
you
see
anything
that
I'm
not
seeing
I,
think
what
we're
where
we've
reached
consensus
is
to
accept
Jenny's
threshold
of
what
material
contractors
were
talking
about
and
that
we
would
limit
the
definition
of
contractors
to
individual
contractors
that
meet.
That
definition.
Do
we
agree?
A
Okay,
great?
So
that's
Point
number
one
point
number
two
Whitney
would
love
for
your
eyes
on
this
one
I
think
certainly
and
Chris.
You've
just
said
it
right.
A
The
the
intent
of
the
edit
that
we
made
in
picking
up
schools
when
we,
when
we
did
and
the
last
markup
that
went
up
to
the
board
in
May,
was
to
provide
both
the
you
know,
the
the
employees
of
schools
with
employment
related
recourse
under
this
ordinance,
but
to
also
open
this
ordinance
up
to
provide
students
and
parents
with
a
Pathway
to
raise
their
concern
and
their
complaint
right.
A
Could
there
be
a
world
in
which
somebody
makes
a
future
argument
to
say
well
in
including
schools
in
the
definitions
here,
the
way
in
which
you've
done
it
is
to
really
only
provide
recourse
under
the
statute
for
people
employed
by
one
of
the
Arlington
County
schools,
which
is
necessarily
more
limited
than
we
need
to
so
I
guess
my
request
for
you,
Whitney
is:
can
you
take
a
look
at
this
and
I'll
send
this
document
around
to
this
group
in
word
again,
can
you
take
a
look
at
this
and
see
if
there's
anything
further,
we
might
want
to
clarify
in
this
markup
to
make
clear
that
we
are
in
fact
talking
about
student
and
and
or
parent
complaints,
and
not
just
employment
related
claims
as
it
pertains
to
schools.
E
Yeah
absolutely
what's
actually
very
interesting
is
I
just
had
a
talk
with
the
superintendent
and
he
actually
as
a
person
who
was
on
the
Human
Rights
Commission,
and
helped
draft
the
language
for
the
in
Arlington
Human
Rights
Commission,
to
include
schools.
He
doesn't
remember
exactly
how
it's
worded,
but
he
felt
as
though
employment
actually
wouldn't
or
shouldn't
or
couldn't
be
covered
based
on
the
new.
Oh,
my
God
winner.
It's
been
a
long
time.
What
do
you
call
it?
The
contract
with
the
teachers
and
the
in
the
union
so.
E
Thank
you,
oh
my
gosh.
Yes,
yes,
so
he
was
under
the
impression
that
that
had
to
it
could
not
include
employment,
and
so
really
it
was
from
that
conversation
solely
for
parents
and
students
and
not
employees
and
staff
members.
A
So
that's
interesting
right
I
mean
I,
get
that
point
as
it
relates
to
the
the
union
employees
right,
those
employees
of
schools
who
are
covered
by
the
CBA.
They
have
grievance
procedures
under
their
CBI
to
raise
their
concerns.
That
makes
perfect
sense,
but,
of
course,
there's
going
to
be
a
whole
basket
of
managers
and
administrators
and
people
who
are
not
eligible
to
be
Union
covered.
Who
should
have
employment
related
recourse
through
this
ordinance
right?
A
If
you
have
a
black
teacher
who
is
discriminated
against
by
her
supervisor
and
she's,
not
young
she's
non-union,
she
should
have
the
ability,
if
she
so
chooses,
to
bring
a
claim
under
this
ordinance
if
she
doesn't
want
to
go
to
the
ERC,
but
I
really
think
it
should
cover
both.
So
that's
really
interesting.
Could
you
Whitney
when
you
take
a
spin
through?
A
Can
you
look
at
both
sides
of
the
coin
right?
Make
sure
there's
no
ambiguity
that,
of
course
it
pertains
to
education.
Parents
and
students
have
recourse,
but
likewise
teacher
eligible
teachers
right
non-union
covered
teachers.
Have
the
ability
to
bring
employment
related
claims
under
this
ordinance
if
they
so
choose.
I
love
that
absolutely
okay!
Awesome
all
right,
so
that's
Point,
number,
two
and
I
think
probably
nothing
to
do
there.
A
Unless,
when
you
say,
there's
ambiguity,
let's
tighten
it
because
actually
she's
daylighting
an
issue
for
us
that
we
might
want
to
fix,
and
hopefully
nothing
to
do
there
by
way
of
a
markup
Point
number.
Three
guys
can
you
see,
is
Stephen
on
the
line.
A
Okay,
Point
number
three
I'm,
not
sure,
and
if
you
can
all
see
this
point
number
three
is
she
says
that
some
of
the
edits
that
we
made
to
the
source
of
income
additions
go
beyond
the
intent
of
what
the
code
is
so
I,
don't
know
if
she's
sort
of
putting
laying
an
Easter
egg
here
on
Dylan's
rule
issues,
but
I
I
suspect
what
this
is
is
we
have
some
sections
in
here
on
Commercial,
Real,
Estate
and
and
how
the
source
of
funds
protection
extends
to
commercial
real
estate,
and
you
know
notionally
I.
A
Obviously,
I
want
our
ordinance
to
be
as
Broad
and
as
protective
as
it
possibly
can
be.
Stephen
and
I
had
a
number
of
conversations
on
this.
One
notionally
I
struggled
with
this
one
a
little
bit
here.
It
is
commercial
real
estate,
I
struggled
with
this
one.
A
A
little
bit
of
having
source
of
funds
or
source
of
income
exists
as
a
protected
attribute
in
the
commercial
real
estate
context,
because
the
very
nature
of
that
business,
of
course,
is
to
look
at
whether
or
not
you
know
some
sort
of
investment
partner
is
investment
worthy
and
as
part
of
any
ordinary
diligence
in
a
commercial
real
estate
deal
you're
looking
at
somebody's,
you
know,
financing
somebody's
dead
picture
and
the
like.
That's
part
of
the
business
of
doing
that
and
I
suspect,
so
so
here
I
have
I
have
that
language
right.
A
A
So
the
question
for
this
group,
so
here's
her
comment.
Three
some
of
the
source
of
income
addition
seems
to
go
beyond
the
intent
of
the
amendment
for
those
who
engage
in
this
area
for
business.
This
is
why
I
think
she's
talking
about
commercial,
real
estate
Jenny,
wants
to
know.
If
we
have
an
objection
to
kind
of
bringing
it
back
to
what
the
Virginia
code
provides,
so
I
think
that
would
be
deleting
source
of
funds
in
that
commercial,
real
estate
context.
I
have
to
say
to
this
group:
I
am
agnostic
on
that
one
I.
A
D
Thank
you
for
telling
me
that
I
I
don't
have
an
well
I'm,
really
not
wedded
to
that,
because
source
of
income
was
mainly
meant
to
deal
with
housing,
but
at
the
same
time,
could
there
possibly
ever
be
an
instance
in
which
it
was
you
know
what
source
of
income
would
be
pertinent
in
that
particular
area,
so
I'm
all
for
kicking
it
up
with
it
in
there
and
then
let
them
take
it
out
if
they
want
to
yeah.
A
Because
you're
right,
Roland
I
mean
okay,
let's
say
you
have
I,
don't
know
some
Real
Estate
Investment
Trust,
comprised
of
investors
who
have
taken
government
subsidies
or
grants
in
the
past
and
they've
combined
and
they've
come
up
with
some
investment
vehicle
right
and
a
commercial
real
estate.
I,
don't
know
a
VC
or
a
private
Equity
Firm
is
like
I.
Don't
want
to
work
with
these
guys.
They
have
government
subsidies
right,
you're,
right,
I,
suppose
that
could
be
a
proxy
for
discrimination.
So
you're
right.
A
C
A
A
One
of
the
big
cities
in
California
has
a
very
nice
robust
section
in
its
ordinance
on
anti-harassment
protection
and
it
gets
very
robust
and
detailed
and
that's
what
we
rib
from
for
purposes
of
this
and
she
wants
to
and
I
think
that
the
California
template
is
based
upon
sexual
harassment,
examples
and
she's
saying:
are
you
guys
open
to
us
building
these
examples
out
to
put
some
of
this
harassment
on
the
basis
of
disability,
race?
Nationality?
A
E
A
No
objection
either
okay,
good
and
then
in
that
California
template
again
there
is
a
reference
to
private
information
in
the
harassment.
Section,
I
think
it's
something
like
harassment
can
be.
You
know
deliberately
disclosing
somebody's
private
information
in
a
way
that's
creating
an
abusive
or
hostile
work.
Environment.
A
I,
don't
have
any
concern
with
Ginny
defining
what
sort
of
information
would
be
private
right,
it
could
be
Personnel
information
could
be
personal,
Financial
or
medical,
or
you
know
familial
information
and
the
like.
So
if
she
wants
to
pick
up
the
pen
and
expand
upon
that,
I
think
that's
fine.
Anybody
have
a
concern
with
that.
D
A
Okay,
okay,
all
right
I'm,
getting
there
okay!
Here
we
here,
it
is
I
I!
Think
when
you
look
at
some
of
these
examples
here,
okay,
where
I've
highlighted
on
the
screen,
I
think
that
some
of
these
subsections
are
very
clear,
that
they
are
related
to
gender-based
items
and
so
I
think
she
was
suggesting
finding
a
way
to
weave
in
more
broadly
that
these
examples
can
pertain
to
somebody's
race,
religion,
national
origin.
A
Obviously,
some
of
these
things,
sexual
gestures
and
touching
and
pinching
and
the
like,
might
be
more
pertinent
to
sexual
harassment,
but
they
can
be
germane
to
other
protected
attributes
as
well.
Very.
A
Okay,
so
all
right,
I
think
we're
all
good
on
on.
You
know:
go
go
ahead.
Jenny
have
fun
with
harassment,
expand
it
as
you
will.
It's
all
consistent
with
what
we're
doing
and
if
she's
happy
to
take
the
pen
on
that
I'm
happy
all
right,
Point
number,
six
and-
and
this
might
be
something
that
I
take
offline
with
Stephen.
A
There
are
a
number
of
places
kind
of
peppered
throughout
here
and
Roland.
You
might
have
Insight
on
this
and
let
me
see
if
I
can't
put
my
finger
on
it.
There
are
a
couple
of
places
where
we've
said
things
yeah
here
it
is
folks.
Can
you
all
see
this
on
the
screen?
So
it's
beneath
harassment.
A
Okay,
it's
B
and
C.
Okay,
so
a
of
this
section
is,
you
can't,
engage
in
unlawful
harassment
and
we
have
that
big
definition
of
harassment.
B
of
this
section
is
you
can't
violate
Virginia
code
as
it
relates
to
state
grants
and
programs,
you
can't
and
then
C
is
you
can't
violate
the
Virginia
code
as
it
pertains
to
voting
I
I
gotta,
be
honest,
I'm,
a
little
bit
of
the
point
of
view
that
like
does
it
hurt
to
call
out
which
you
can't
otherwise
do
Under
the
Virginia
code?
A
No,
it
doesn't
hurt,
but
what
does
it
actually
get
us
right
and
I?
Guess
we're
saying
like
don't,
engage
in
discrimination,
harassment
or
retaliation
in
these
contexts
either,
but
it
is.
It
is
a
little
bit
confusing
that
we
just
have
these
B
and
C's
in
here
and
I.
Think
that's
what
Ginny
is
focused
on
so
Roland
any
insight
on
the
Genesis
of
these
or
why
we
wanted
to
do
these
yeah.
D
I
think
the
the
the
member
who
who
proposed
that
is,
is
not
here
to
to
to
speak
to
that,
but
I
too
am
sort
of
questioning
in
the
area
of
voting
exactly
what
we
would,
what
what
we
would
actually
do
with
the
voting
be
because
I'm,
totally
unfamiliar
with
the
state
statutes
that
are
that
are
that
are
quoted
here.
So
I,
don't
know
what
this
you
know,
what
these
two
things
entail.
A
Yeah
I
think
these
are
statutes.
That
would
say
things
like
it's
on:
it's
unlawful,
it's
unlawful
in
the
Commonwealth
of
Virginia
to
deny
voting
access
to
a
person
on
the
basis
of
a
protected
attribute
that
they
possess
right,
race,
national
origin,
disabilities,
Etc
right
so
I
think
that's
what
that
5
51
544
says
in
spirit
right,
more
Nuance
to
it,
but
you
can't
discriminate
in
the
context
of
voting.
Nor
can
you
discriminate
within
the
Commonwealth
of
Virginia
in
Doling
out
state
grants
or
programs
on
the
basis
of
a
protected
attribute
race,
religion.
A
You
know:
nationality
Etc,
but
you're
right
how?
What
is
who
who
is
prohibited
from
doing
this,
like
what.
D
Well
and
I'm
also
thinking
what
would
be
the
the
enforcement
mechanism,
what
would
we
do
and
and
I
must
admit,
I'm
not
I'm,
not
knowledgeable
about
the
about
the
jurisdiction
of
the
Board
of
Elections,
but
that
seems
to
me
to
be
encroaching
there
and
I
just
question.
You
know
whether
that's
something
we
really
want
to
get
into
Whitney.
What
do
you
think
about
that?
D
Because
your
knowledge
on
human
rights,
the
the
sections
that
that
someone
has
proposed
to
add
would
make
it
unlawful
to
violate
the
Virginia
code
dealing
with
voting
right.
So
so
I
guess.
My
question
is:
wouldn't
that
be
something
for
the
Board
of
Elections
or
I
mean
some
other
entity
that
deals
directly
with
voting
and
with
Collections
and
I?
Don't
know
what
we?
What
could
we
possibly
okay,
yeah?
Thank
you
again
from
that.
E
You
know
what
I
am
Kim
Phillip
is
one
of
my
employees
and
also
the
president
of
the
Board
of
Elections
yeah.
E
So
maybe
let
me
ask
her
too
I
think
I
mean
to
Helena's
one
point
like
it's,
not
necessarily
bad
to
spell
out
something
that
we
don't
want
people
to
do,
even
though
we
don't
have
to
right,
but
we
also
don't
want
to
necessarily
make
this
any
harder
than
it
has
to
be,
but
I
mean
I
think
we
can
all
agree
that
we
we
do
not
want
people's
rights
were
violated
while
they're
voting,
but
is
that
really
is
our
ordinance
the
best
place
to
spell
that
out,
yeah.
D
Yeah,
that's
yeah,
that's
the
point
is:
is
the
best
way
to
put
it
there,
yeah
and
and
also
with
grants
and
programs
exactly
what
does
that
entail.
A
And
and
Roland
I
mean
I
I
like
the
way
I
like
the
way
Whitney
just
described
it
right,
I
mean
Whitney.
It's
almost
like
it's
a
statement
of
our
of
policy
like
you're
right
Roland,
like
there's,
probably
no
enforcement
teeth
on
this
right,
because
I
suppose,
if
somehow
I
don't
know,
I
mean
I
can't
even
come
up
with
the
hypothetical
you're
an
employer.
You
fail
to
permit
somebody.
A
You
failed
to
permit
your
black
employees
to
take
time
out
of
their
business
day,
to
go
and
exercise
their
legal
right
to
vote
and
that's
happening
along
racial
lines.
Right
is
there
now
the
argument
that
the
maligned
employee
aggrieved
employee
can
now
bring
a
claim
for
direct
discrimination
in
terms
and
conditions
of
employment,
but
then
separately
rely
on
section
c,
my
employer.
A
You
know
it
impuned
my
ability
to
vote
by
denying
my
time
off
request
in
a
way
that
was
inconsistent
to
my
comparator
white
employees.
Baby
I
mean
maybe
now
would
they
lean
on
the
human
rights
ordinance
for
that?
No,
but
it
just
provides
a
separate
Avenue
of
recourse
outside
of
just
the
traditional
discrimination
prohibition.
D
Well,
you
know
Helen
taking
it
taking
into
consideration
now
the
example
that
you
pose
I
I
think
now
we
probably
should
mention
something
yeah
about
that,
because
clearly,
that
would
be
something
I
think
that
the
commission
could
deal
with.
If,
if
it
was
a
matter
of
discrimination
on
the
job,
then
that
clearly
would
come
under
our
jurisdiction.
A
Stephen
I
see
that
you
have
joined
and
perfect
timing
I'm,
not
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
we
are
Stephen.
Can
you
hear
us?
Okay,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you're
successfully
in
the
lobby
and
I
can't
see
because
I'm
sharing
screen,
yep,
okay,
perfect,
so
Stephen
just
to
catch
you
up,
quick.
What
we
have
done
as
a
group
is
I
I
have
our
latest
copy
of
the
March,
the
big
markup
right
that
we
did
not
just
the
schools.
A
Markup
I
have
that
up
on
the
screen
and
then
here
in
the
comment
bubble.
I
have
Ginny's
seven
points,
so
we've
sort
of
talked
through
in
some
kind
of
where
we,
where
we're
landing
on
these
and
the
Genesis
is,
you
know,
we'll
take
a
spin
through
to
just
make
sure
that
there'd
be
no
unintended
consequences
on
limiting
the
definition
of
contractors
for
point
one
right
so
remember:
Arlington,
County,
Workforce,
picks
up
contractors.
A
We're
gonna
make
sure
that
we're
very
clear
in
our
markup
that
when
we
include
Arlington,
County
Public
Schools
we're
doing
that
from
an
educational
perspective.
So
parents
and
students
have
recourse
under
this
ordinance,
but
so
to
who
do
teachers
if
there
is
discrimination
or
harassment
in
the
employment
context
in
those
employers
within
the
county,
we're
going
to
hold
firm
on
Commercial
Real,
Estate
references
to
source
of
funds
and
source
of
income
Stephen.
A
You
and
I
have
chatted
about
that
a
bit,
but
we've
gotten
consensus
here
from
the
rest
of
the
group,
some
of
the
edits
that
Ginny
wants
to
make
in
actually
expanding
our
language
on
harassment,
to
make
it
more
precise.
It
applies
to
other
protected
attributes,
we're
totally
fine
with
that.
So
long
as
she
picks
up
the
pen,
and
so
here
we
are
we're
on
this
conundrum
and
Stephen.
You
and
I
have
talked
about
this
quite
a
bit.
A
It's
those
those
two
Provisions
right
and
I'll
toggle
to
them
in
a
second
but
I
just
wanted
you
to
see
the
comment
that
we're
talking
about.
This
is
where
Ginny
is
like.
You
guys
have
that
section
about.
It
shall
be
unlawful
in
the
context
of
voting
to
violate
whatever
the
Virginia
code
section
on
voting
same
thing,
same
language
almost
in
Clone,
on
state
grants,
and
so,
as
a
commission
we've
been
sort
of
debating
back
and
forth
like
is
it
really
like?
Are
we
really
gaining
anything
and
having
those
references
there?
A
Is
it
nice
to
have
that
policy
statement?
Are
we
encroaching
on
elections
or
some
of
the
other
state
bodies
in
including
that
language
Whitney's
going
to
talk
to
somebody?
She
knows
who's
on
the
election
commission,
but
you
know
you
might
have
more
insight
Stephen
on
the
Genesis
of
those
and
now
I've,
just
toggled
through
the
to
the
provisions
that
I'm
talking
about
here.
Can
you
see
that
Stephen
on
screen,
B
and
C.
C
A
A
Of
course
you
can't
engage
in
conduct
and-
and
you
know,
these
statutes
reference
like
it's
unlawful
to
discriminate
when
somebody
exercising
their
right
to
vote
on
the
basis
of
some
sort
of
protected,
attribute
right,
yeah
like
likewise,
the
Commonwealth
of
Virginia
cannot
discriminate
in
apportioning
out
state
grants
and
programs
unprotected.
You
know
lines
right
so
that
already
exists
up
at
the
state
level.
A
What
are
we
accomplishing
here
from
an
enforcement
mechanism
and
I
think
we
crafted
a
hypothetical,
as
we
were
noodling
through
this-
that
let's
say
you're
a
Virginia
employer
who
has
an
inconsistent
practice
of
approving
leave
for.
C
A
C
A
A
A
A
C
A
A
Gender
identity,
identity,
appearance
or
other
gender
related
characteristics
of
an
individual
without
regard
to
the
individual's
designated
sex
at
Birth
or
further
defined
by
the
laws
of
Virginia
I.
Think
that's
a
very
precise
definition
of
gender
identity,
the
internalization
of
gender,
which
contrasts
with
gender
expression,
the
outward
and
so
I
really
do
think.
Gender
is
not
as
narrow
as
that
foreign.
C
A
A
So
here's
what's
interesting
right.
So
look
at
1A,
A1A,
Whitney,
we're
looking
at
housing,
prohibited
acts
and
housing.
Gender
identity
is
actually
not
called
out.
Am
I
not
seeing
it
here?
Yeah
gender
identity
is
not
called
out
as
a
protected
basis
in
A1A
and
that
actually
should
have
been
picked
up
in
the
prior
edit,
because
it's
everywhere
else
so
now
I'm
all
of
a
sudden
thinking
like.
Should
we
scrub
this
and
make
sure
gender
identity,
gender
and
gender
identity
appear
everywhere.
It
needs
to.
A
All
right,
well,
look
I,
mean
I.
Think
the
answer
on
seven
is:
are
you
guys,
fine
with
me
going
back
to
Whitney?
Excuse
me
to
to
Jenny
and
saying
yes
we're
open
to
looking
at
definitions
of
age,
sex
and
gender?
If
you
want
to
propose
them
sure
sure,
okay,
okay,
look
so
here's
what
I'll
do
by
way
of
next
steps,
because
I
know
we
only
have
six
minutes
left.
A
Let
me
craft
a
draft
response
to
Ginny
and
I'd
like
for
Jenny,
if
she's
willing
to
do
it,
and
some
of
the
language
of
her
issues
list
suggests
that
she
is
I'd
like
to
invite
her
to
take
the
pen
on
some
of
the
issues
that
we're
open
to.
And
this
way
we
can
react
to
her
markup
as
opposed
to
us
doing
that
work
ourselves.
A
E
B
A
Okay,
all
right!
That
being
the
case,
so
then
let
me
draft
a
responsive,
email.
I'll
run
it
by
this
committee.
Make
sure
that
you
all
agree
if
you
have
any
edits
on
the
draft
note
to
Ginny,
please
make
them
and
send
them
to
me
directly.
We
can
get
this
off
to
Jenny.
Hopefully
she'll
then
deliver
a
markup
to
us
and
we
can
review
those
asynchronously
and
then
maybe
just
come
together
and
just
align
in
our
thinking
for
another
20
minutes
half
hour
and
then
off
we
go
off.
It
goes.
A
Right
guys
well,
thank
you
for
the
time
on
a
Monday
afternoon
great
to
see
you
all
I'll
get
this
email
circulated
as
soon
as
I
can
thank.