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bullet
point
here
that
says
we
have
some
Commissioners
here
that
are
in
person
and
then
we
have
a
jfact
member
that
is
participating
virtually,
but
we,
but
we
do
not
have
a
quorum.
So
the
the
person
that's
virtual,
is
only
listening
in
at
the
end
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
orient
everyone
to
our
hybrid
environment
and
cover
a
few
specifics
about
how
tonight's
meeting
will
be
run.
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use
it
for
Commissioners
who
are
joining
virtually
if
anyone
use
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Additional
notes
for
our
members
of
the
public,
who
would
like
to
provide
feedback
and
comment.
We
will
hold
public
comment
periods
at
the
beginning
and
end
of
the
meeting.
Those
requested
to
speak
may
do
so
during
only
one
comment
period
and
will
be
allowed
up
to
three
minutes
to
speak
on
tonight's
agenda
item,
when
virtual
attendees
are
called
Welcome
to
speak.
You
must
mute
yourself
by
clicking
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icon
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bar.
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moderator
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ability
you'll
be
muted
when
your
time
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food.
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B
B
A
Coverage
so
I
gave
the
welcome
and
the
chairs
update,
don't
really
have
it
well.
I
have
a
little
bit
of
a
chairs
update,
I
I
I
spoke
with
our
County
Board
I
have
met
with
our
board
Liaisons
within
the
last
week
and
a
half.
A
There
is
still
some
discussion
about
what
our
work
plan
will
be
for
the
year.
We
are,
the
recommended
changes
to
our
Charter
are
still
looked
at
and
discussed.
A
We
have
a
new
school
board
liaison
and
that's
read
and
I.
Don't
have
any
idea
what
will
happen
once
people's
off
the
board.
A
S
baby
Garvey
and
it
did
have
dated
pretty-
was
our
liaison
for
the
last
two
years
or
a
year,
and
but
now
we
have
Libby,
and
so
that's
where
we
are
public
comment.
Miranda
do
you
have
any
public
comment.
A
Okay,
so
liaison
update
going
to
get
an
update
from
Wells
on
his
plan.
Langston
Boulevard
Community
Forum,
but
he
is
not
here
so
I
guess
we
will
put
we'll
put
that
off
until
meeting
or
until
he
shows
up
then
I
guess
we
can.
A
Anyway,
Matt
has
supplies
that
he's
going
to
project
begin.
Our
discussion.
A
Of
the
pre-cip
report
and
and
as
I
said
in
the.
A
A
B
A
The
boards
that
will
be
helpful
to
both
boards
as
a
joint
facility
advisory
committee,
so
I
I
posted
our
mission,
which
is
which
I
think
sort
of
helps
sort
of
put
things
into
perspective.
The
overall
mission
of
jpac
is
to
provide
input
to
the
boards
of
capital
facility
needs
assessment,
Capital,
Improvement
plans
and
long-range
facility
planning
for
both
the
Arlington
County
Government
and
Arlington
Public
Schools.
B
A
Right:
Robert,
yeah,
okay,
so
I.
A
I
I
included
this
timeline,
because
I
think
it
will
be
helpful
to
kind
of
understand.
You
know
the
timeline
of
when
we
have
to
give
feedback
and
also
where
this
information
is
ultimately
leading
to.
So
the
pre-cip
report
is
replacing
what
is
called
the
ASAP,
which
happens
on
the
alternate
year
of
dips.
A
So
last
year
we
had
a
CIP
this
year.
Aps
will
adopt
a
you
know
the
CFE
report,
and
that
will
you
know,
help
guide.
A
I,
see
it
as
a
as
a
report
that
helps
Define
the
needs
of
what
will
be
needed
to
be
addressed
in
the
CIP,
which
is
kind
of
a
financial
planning
planning
documents
so
like
here,
here's
what
we
need
and
then
we're
going
to
put
it
into
this
financial
planning
document
on
how
we
can
based
on
what
we
can
afford
and
and
when
we
need
it
kind
of
timeline.
A
So
so
from
July,
when
the
report
was
released
until
basically
until
the
end
of
September,
you
know
they're,
you
know
they.
They
released
the
report
and
they're
asking.
B
A
Advisory
commissions
API,
the
aps
is
Jade
back
facilities,
advisory
committee
and
the
jfact
to
provide
feedback
to
the
school
board
and
also
members
of
the
public
they're
holding
listening
sessions
and
Community
table
sessions.
Jpac
has
been
debate
in
those
and
so
I.
A
Don't
yeah
I'm
not
exactly
sure
what
bowl
we
would
play
in
participating
in,
but
we
haven't
I
and
and
then
in
October
the
school
board
at
a
school
board
meeting,
they
will
vote
on
the
CIP
Direction,
which
that's
good,
that
sort
of
direct
staff
on
what
to
work
on
for
the
next
four
months
as
they
lead
into
the
CIP
with
well.
You
know,
then,
there's
we're
school
board
meetings
and
work
sessions
and
you
know
different
different
things.
A
They
have
to
vote
on
along
the
way,
but
they,
but
by
June
the
that
2024
CIP.
A
B
A
You
know
for
the
school
board
to
consider
for
the
CIP
Direction
and
the
first
one
is
to
and
and
I'm
just
gonna
list
them
here
and
then
we'll
go
into
them
in
more
detail
in
later
sides.
But.
A
Repurpose
Nottingham
for
swing
space
effective
school
year,
2026
27
plan
for
future
faces
phases
of
the
Arlington
career
center
campus
aligns
with
the
school
boards
2023
32
CIP,
and
maintain.
A
B
A
That's
what
that
is
confirmed
to
repurpose
the
existing
ACC
building
or
Montessori,
and
deconstruct
Old
Henry,
building,
replacing
it
with
green
space,
conducting
a
full
Middle
School
bounding
process
called
2023
and
vote
on
program
move
and
Middle
School
boundaries
in
December
2020
this
December
and
they
are
recommending
that
Middle
School
Spanish
Immersion
moved
to
Kenmore
and
fine
Middle.
School
boundaries
fall
across.
A
Let's
move
on
yeah,
so
you
know
for
each
of
these
recommendations.
I,
you
know
I
sort
of
wanted
us
to
ask
the
question:
are
the
priorities
identified
within
the
report
and
the
recommendations
clear
and
do
they
align
with
the
data
that's
presented,
you
know
as
it
you
know
like
based
on
sort
of
our
mission
and
our
county-wide.
A
So
the
recommendation
to
repurpose
Nottingham
for
swing
space,
basically,
what
they
are
recommending
is
that
there
is
a
excess
capacity
in
the
North
Arlington
Elementary
Schools.
B
A
Of
that,
we
may
need
to
go
to
the
Constitution,
but
the
and-
and
they
are
recommending
that
they
move
that
there's
enough
excess
capacity
in
the
surrounding
schools
that
they
can
move
the
existing
capacity
out
of
Nottingham
into
other
schools.
A
That
are
that
they
could
mostly
walk
to
that
and
then
leaving
that
school
empty
which
could
be
swing
space
or
for
the
time
that
it
is
to
be
the
that
more
or
less.
D
B
A
Okay
yeah,
so
so
in
this
North
Arlington
zone
is
sitting
at
kind
of
85
capacity
and
I
mean
there's
we're
really
looking
at
excess
capacity.
I
have
I
have
a
slide
a
bit
later
in
the
PowerPoint
presentation.
We're
really
looking
at
excess
capacity.
All
across
the
board
I
mean
there
are.
There
is
some
zone.
A
Four
is
an
over
120
to
capacity,
but
there's
just
a
couple
of
schools
in
that
and
that
you
know
that,
and-
and
you
know
there
is
a
recommendation-
that
there
also
be
Elementary
School
boundary
changes,
but
that
did
not
until
Robert
I
think.
D
A
A
Yes,
December
Fallout
26
implementing
boundary
changes
for
efficient
capacity
utilization
among
elementary
schools,
so
they
would
repurpose
a
school
in
zone,
one
school
that
they're
recommending
is
Nottingham
and
then
they,
you
know,
would
do
boundary
changes
in
in
between
zone
three
and
zone.
Four,
probably
to
balance
that
says.
D
Yeah
and
then
the
report
there's
two
reporters.
D
That
everyone
kind
of
linked
to
has
appendices
and
some
of
the
appendices
of
reports
in
and
of
themselves
right.
So
there's
one
report
that
basically
talks
to
the
to
the
the
Gathering
of
sites
potentially
for
swing
space
and
my
co-worker
Liana
Gonzalez.
D
We
sent
it
to
Jade
back
in
and
they
see
you
know
asking
for
asking
for
like
sites
to
be
considered
and
from
that
process.
One
of
the
appendices
talks
to
the
sort
of
like
you
know,
rational
way,
trying
to
condense
that
list
into
something
more
manageable,
based
on
costs
about
article
questions
and
there's
another
appendix
and
appendix
on
how
they
got
to
Nottingham
as
a.
B
C
I
think
it
was
a
helpful
side.
I
didn't
watch
the
work
session
and
it
was
a
helpful
slide
that
gave
numbers
to
like
eliminating
a
certain
number
I
think
there
were
61
sites,
evaluated
46
students
area
and
there
was
a
cost
Associated
to
the
other
options,
so
some
were
building
spaces
or
other,
and
it
just.
B
C
A
Yeah
and
I
I
think
in
terms
of
Swing
space,
yeah
I
was
on
a
I
think
it
is
really
important
to
consider
cost
because,
as
we
know
in
the
last
CIP,
there
was
a
lot
spent
up
front
in
the
first
couple
of
years
on
a
new
career
center
and
not
a
lot
left
over
in
the
last
eight
years.
A
So
what
we
have
available
for
for
renovating
an
existing
School
and
creating
swing
space
I
think
we
have
to
be
very
mindful
of
costs
and
there's
I
I
do
have
a
couple
of
slides
the
end
of
our
PowerPoint.
That
kind
of
beat
speak
to
that,
but
I
think
that's
kind
of
I.
Think
that's
a
big
picture
thing
that
we
as
jfact
you
know
can
need
to
keep
in
need
to
keep
in
mind.
A
I
think
also,
actually,
why
don't
we
go
ahead
and
to
back
to
our
yeah,
as
you
can
see
like
repurposing
in
elementary
school
is
less
than
five
million
dollars
and
any
of
the
other
options
are
25
to
70
million.
A
So
in
swing
space
would
be
used
for
so
the
context
of
that
is
that
you
know
for
for
the
last
decade
really
since
2010
Arlington
was
growing
at
a
great
you
know
of
700
students,
and
we
had
to
use
all
of
our
available
bonding
capacity
to
build
every
possible
safety
that
we
could
because
we
needed
to
find
seats
for
students,
because
otherwise
you
know
we
were
putting.
A
You
know
28
two
classrooms
of
relocatables
at
Williamsburg,
and
you
know,
is
it
not?
We
were
not
create,
you
know
to
create
optimal
learning
environments
for
all
of
our
students
and
and
so
just
recently,
within
the
last
two
years
since
covid,
and
just
before
that
too,
because
of
dropping
birth
rates.
Because
of
the
you
know,
you
know
the
information
that
Robert
and
our
County
colleagues
put
together,
I
mean
really
before
covid.
We
were
seeing
dropping
birth
rates
and
we
saw
a
big
shift
and
kind
of
you
know.
A
One
year
there
was
two
thousand
over
you
know.
In
the
last
out
years,
we
were
looking
at
two
thousand
additional
elementary
schools,
some
something
of
that
number
and
then
the
next
year
they
revised
the
data
and
cause
of
lower
birth
rates
and
because
fewer
people
were
moving
into
Arlington
that
that
you.
A
Changed
I,
don't
remember
any
exact
numbers
right
now
and
then
we
had
covet
hit
and
that
changed
a
lot
too.
So
now
we're
in
the
Scituate.
So
the
boards
over
the
last
two
years,
I
think
you
know
really
they
said.
Okay,
we
wanted
to
address
some
of
our
oldest
schools
that
have
not
had
these
updates
and
they
have
been
waiting
to
have
these
updates
for
the
last
10
years,
but
we've
waited
while
we've
had
to
address
creating
new
seats
and
so
now
we're
in
a
situation
where
we
have
some
breathing
room.
B
A
They're
imagining
are
going
to
need
major
Renovations
and
because,
during
the
last
decade,
they've
had
experience
of
didn't
have
some
space
because
we
just
didn't
have
it.
You
know
like
Abingdon
and
Ashland
did
a
couple
of
schools
where
the
students
lived
through,
you
know
lived,
you
know,
kind
of
were
in
the
schools.
A
While
they
were
doing
renovations,
they
made
the
project
expensive,
it
made
it
longer,
it
made
it,
you
know
it
just
it
made
it
more
difficult,
a
lot
the
longer
it
takes,
the
more
it
costs
and
then,
where
it
costs
longer
it
takes,
and-
and
it
didn't
you
know
like
it
would
have
been
better
to
so.
There
is
the
idea
that
some
of
these
schools
may
may
be
better
to
just
tear
them
down
and
do
rebuild,
or
it
may
need
a
major
addition.
But
the
idea
is:
let's
move
these
students
out
during
those
things.
A
In
the
position
where
we
can
move
the
students
out
as
we
can
and
and
do
these
major
Renovations
that
these
schools
have
been
waiting
for
a
long
time
so
last
year,.
A
School
Board
directed
A
needs
assessment
for
all
of
the
schools
and
jpac
and
back
really
in
fact
did
a
lot
of
input
on
helping
to
provide
criteria,
and
you
know-
and
we
looked
at
it
too,
but
it's
it's
the
long
range
for
these
AIDS
assessment
renovation
plan
renovation
right
and
that
report
is
coming
out
December
and
that
report
will
of.
A
And
that
report
will,
you
know,
have
give
the
school
boards
a
sense
of
School
a
needs,
a
new
group.
You
know
these
are
these:
are
our
priority
schools
and
what
they
need
and
that
they
looked
at
everything
from
you
know:
HVAC
systems
grooves
and,
to
you
know,
also
common
spaces,
bathrooms
and
plumbing
and
electrical.
You
know
kind
of
all
of
the
nuts
and
bolts,
but
there
isn't
any.
You
know
it
was
it's.
A
It's
really
looking
at
these
buildings
objectively
as
buildings
and
not
as
you
know,
which
is
where
the
school
board
decision
will
come
in
like
okay.
Well,
this
you
know,
they're
gonna
have
to
make
a
subjective
decision
based
on
you
know,
because
I,
you
know,
I,
don't
think
our
any
of
our
schools
are
in
dire
need
of
anything.
You
know,
but
they're
gonna
have
to
sort
of
make
a
decision
of
like
this.
A
Let's
do
this
one
or
that
one,
because
a
b
and
c
and
that
might
be
tied
into
there's
more
or
you
know,
free
and
reduced
price
lunches
and
second
language
Learners
in
the
school.
So
having
to
do
it's
really
vital
you
know
to
to
them.
You
know
kind
of
you
know
that
that
kind
of
stuff
is
not
looked
at,
but
those
that
kind
of
so
that
information
is
not
not
yet
out.
A
A
So
this
so
in
the
report
it
says
that
in
September
of
2023,
the
facilities
department
will
present
a
prioritized
School
renovation
list.
So
that's
basically
what
you
were,
and
so
you
know
one
of
the
questions
that
I
you
know
and
what
you
had
as
well
was
without
a
list
of
proposed
Renovations.
How
can
we
assess
the
need
for
creating
swing
space?
A
A
A
Understand
it
and
you
know
I,
you
know
I
think
one
of
the
things
when,
when
we
had
ABS
staff
come
here
talk
to
us
about
jvac,
you
know
I
mean
about
swing
space.
B
A
Would
be
like
a
you
know,
enough
space
for
all
the
students
that
we
need
to
go
in
there.
You
know
satisfy
that.
What
about
proximity
to
to
you
know
to
me
one
of
a
criteria
that
should
be
considered
is
proximity
to
the
renovation
project
or
projects,
because
you
know,
especially
if
you're
looking,
you
know
kind
of
lower
income
communities,
you
know
having
having
their
school,
be.
B
A
A
C
B
B
C
Furniture,
so
you
know,
I
don't
have
like
as
much
we'll
see
it
on
paper,
we'll
have
a
lot
of
data,
which
is
extremely
helpful.
You're,
not
getting
sort
of
just
a
one-off.
A
C
It's
I
thought
it
was
very
helpful,
so
I
think
it'll
be
it'll,
be
really
helpful
to
have
to
have
a
and
documented
in
terms
of
all
of
the
schools,
but.
B
A
I
mean
that
is
an
interesting
J
fact:
back
does
have
their
school
have
their
meetings
at
all
different
schools,
and
so
you
know
six
years
on
there
I
most
of
the
school.
There
is
a
difference.
You
know,
I,
don't
think
that
there
is
a
you
know,
like
I,
said,
I,
think
all
of
our
schools
in
the
work
condition
are
there.
A
You
know
that
all
that
are
in
constant
state
of
repair
which
year,
which
is
why
you
invested
in
CMM
and
maintenance
and
I
think
we
have
a
very
good
APS-
is
a
very
good
process
of
staying
on
top
of
their
schools,
and
you
know
maintaining
good
state
of
repair,
but
but
I
you
know,
but
there
this
is
an
opportunity.
I
think
we
have
in
this
lower
enrollment
environment
to
really
go
in
and
make
a
you
know,
make
a
make
a
substantial
renovation
or
upgrade
to
some
of
these
schools,
especially
because
we
have
fewer
schools.
A
That
are
learning
spaces
and
you
know
I
think
it's
important.
You
know
to
you,
know:
I,
really,
support
prioritizing.
D
D
D
A
A
Question
are
there
fiscal
advantages
to
delaying
Renovations
by
a
few
years?
Limited
bonding
capacity,
I
mean
I.
Think
that's
also
a
good
question.
I
also
think
you
know.
I
would
also
sort
of
counter
that
by
saying
our
you
know,
for
the
first
time,
in
a
long
time,
in
a
situation
where
we
have
excess
capacity,
we
have
have
the
ability
to
kind
of
create.
You
know,
move
students
into
you
know,
leave
a
school
an
existing
school
and
everyone
is
the
right
one.
I.
A
Can
you
know
use
that
as
swing
space,
and
then
you
know,
and
then
you
know
really
do
one
or
two
or
three
schools
that
have
been
waiting
for.
You
know
attention.
You
know
kind
of
they've
been
waiting
patiently
in
line
to
get
an
upgrade
that
is
deserved
and
needed.
I
mean.
A
A
B
A
Thank
you.
This
is
also
one
of
Wilson's
questions
on
page
a
the
report
projects
that
zone
four,
which
approximates
the
County's
Richmond
Highway.
A
East
is
expected
to
have
building
design
seat
needs
for
elementary
students,
with
about
280,
more
students
at
seats
and
a
capacity
capacity
utilization
of
around
122
by
2027-28.
A
We
asked
what
is
aps's
plan
for
addressing
this
need
for
additional
capacity
seats
in
South,
Arlington
and
I.
Think
the
answer
to
that
is
that
they're
planning
to
do
boundary,
changes
right
and
and
actually
and
then
yeah
I,
mean
I,
think
boundary
changes
are
the
right
thing,
considering
that
there's
under
capacity
every
in.
D
In
Virginia
Islands
Park
they
have
a
master
plan,
but
on
the
latest
County
CIP.
It's
the
time
that
that
will
be
looked
at
is
way
out
in
the
future,
and
so
it
can
be
considered.
But
it's
the
time
frame.
A
B
A
Counting
wide
and
to
include
all
the
schools,
both
at
all
levels,
elementary
school,
middle
school
and
high
school
I-
think
it
gives
you
more
options.
Even
if
some
schools
don't
experience
any
change,
you
know
some
schools
experiences
little
changes,
some
big,
it's
more
I,
think
doing
a
county-wide.
Is
they
I
really
support
doing
it?
That
way,
especially
after
having
that
on
advisory
committee,
where
you've
done
it
differently,
I
think
it's
sort
of
tied
your
hands
in
ways
that
limited
options
that
or
hit
fun
Community
against
another
and
I.
A
Don't
you
know
in
in
ways
that
I
I
just
think
you
have
the
ability
to
to
a
more
a
better
decision?
You
know
better
options
when
you
have
the
whole
County
to
work
with
to
make
pages.
A
I
think
it
also.
You
know,
because
it's
it
Cascades
upon
itself
too,
and
so
you
know
sort
of
saying
I'm
going
to
stop
here,
stop
at
the
North
Arlington
line,
and
you
know
South
Arlington
line
or
when
did
your
balancing
enrollment
out
of
wnl
a
couple
years
ago.
D
A
B
A
Because
they
were
more
excess,
you
know
we
just
had
about.
You
know,
couldn't
have
this
through
the
exact
number,
but
you
had
to
move
students
into
the
schools,
so
you
had
to
do
it,
but
I
think
if
you
did
it
I
just
I'll
just
say
that
I
really
support
doing
it.
You
know
county-wide
at
all
levels.
I
think
is
a
bright
idea.
I
think
if
it's
I
think
it
puts
everybody
in
the
same.
C
A
Don't
like
somebody
having
something
that
they
don't
you
know
like,
and
you
know,
and
you
know
it
also
doesn't
get
like
one
Community
fired
up
and
then
everybody
you
know
it's
just
it's
like.
Okay,
we
have
to
do
battery
changes.
I
think
it
kind
of.
A
It's
also
one
of
those
questions.
The
report
says
that
in
2022
APS
estimated
possible
students
from
new
housing
scenarios
from
the
plan,
Langston
Boulevard
preliminary
concept
plan
and
found
that
relevant,
existing
school
capacity
could
absorb
the
estimated
students
generated
from
the
housing
envisioned
to
plan
Langston
Boulevard
through
2030..
A
D
Who
else
is
talking
about
the
pine
Limestone
Boulevard?
When
he's
talking
about
those
pages.
D
D
D
Brown
Community
Center
is
talking
about
it
in
terms
of
illustrative
purposes
how
the
site
might
be
able
to
fit
different
sort
of
facilities,
different
types
and
how
the
site
could
function,
but
it's
not
recommending
that
it's
okay
and
also
is
partly
owned
by
school
system.
Okay,
so
there
might.
You
might
need
to
do
some
clarification.
A
A
A
You
know
ask
for
feedback.
Is
there
anything
missing
in
this
section,
such
as
identifying
joint
use
facilities
that
need
future
planning?
Do
we
have
any
additional
comments
for
their
section
or
their
recommendations
to
Foster
additional
or
improved
collaborative
planning,
bye.
A
And
then
in
the
report?
Oh
yes,.
A
A
D
D
You
know
collaboration
that
we
do
on
Parliament
projections
and
2012
casts,
and
then
these
are
all
examples
of
right
collaboration
that
we've
done
in
enrollment
projections
and.
A
Right,
which
I
think
are
good
examples.
A
B
A
The
things
that
I
I
mean
I
think
this
is,
you
know,
I
I
appreciate
this
in
there
I
mean:
do
you
guys
have
any
feedback
or
go
on.
D
Well,
I
think
that
you
know
it's.
This
is
probably
merits
a
good
discussion.
I'm,
sorry
September!
You.
D
That
this
I
know
this
is
a
bit
of
school,
but
you
know
when
Libby
was
here.
She
talked
about
finding
idea.
Generation.
D
She's
also
talked
about
she's
said
that
she
wants
to
book
a
strategic.
D
So
to
some
degree
you
know
we're
reactive.
This
is
all
good
stuff.
The
meat
and
potatoes
are
getting
the
work
done.
The
CIP
and
the
pre-cip
kind
of
reacted,
but
I
think
that
maybe
there's
a
chance
at
some
point
for
a
just
talking
a
little
bit
more
about
the
vision.
You
know
what
would
be
joint
facilities,
programs
that
would
make
sense.
D
D
D
D
D
Rec
Center,
you
know
what
works,
what
we
want,
what
brings
each
other
collaboration
facilities?
I
mean
it's
a
in
a
way
hard
to
react.
You
know
to
some
of
the
proposals.
A
A
You
know
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
like
to
see.
You
know
in
a
pre-cip
report
that
guides.
B
A
Direction
is
kind
of
a
a
list
of
joint
use
projects
that
were
identified
in
the
last
the
last
VIP
to.
B
A
A
Like
field
space,
expansion
or
you
know,
or
you
know,
field
space,
conversion,
You,
Know,
Field
conversion-
or
you
know
some
type
you
know
been
sometimes
county-
has
done
work
on
the.
A
At
Gunston
you
know
like
if
there's
there's
work
in
the
projects
you
know
I
also
know
you
know,
I,
remember,
watching
the
counties,
staff
presentation
to
the
boards
on
their
facilities,
VIP
and
kind
of
manager.
A
You
know,
came
to
the
question
of
the
Trade
Center
and
he
said
you
know.
I
know:
there's
been
some
questions
for
the
Trade
Center
here,
but
we're
waiting
for
APS
to
practice
they're
planning
to
because
they
share
that
trade
center
utilities
and
operations.
Is
there
there's
the
bus
Depot,
which
was
part
of
the
CIP?
If
you
cips
ago,
renovation,
there's
bus
parking,
School,
Bus,
Parking,
there's
County,
bus
parking
and
I
think
you
know
just
you
know:
I
don't
need
to
see
a
plan.
A
Here's
a
list
of
the
projects
that
we
foresee
meeting
you
know
needing
joint
use
attention
within
the
next
VIP
and
some
of
them
may
have
been
identified
already
in
the
last
CIP
in
the
out
years,
and
some
of
them,
you
know,
may
may
have
you
know
not
been
identified
but
still
needs
some
planning.
I
mean
I.
Do
think
that
that
Trade
Center
planning
you'll
make
you
know
it's
sort
of
off.
C
A
D
A
little
out
of
school,
but
you
know
the
it's
just
it's
against
the
inertia
of
bureaucracy-
do
want
to
do
joinings,
so
each
department
has
enough
trouble
themselves
and
getting
support
for
whatever
program
they
want
to
do.
Let
alone
sing,
hey,
let's
work.
D
Department-
and
you
know
work
on
this
together,
you
know
so
the
I
think
that
you
have
to
push
push
it
citizen
side,
perhaps
or
the
board
side,
because
the
the
Departments
may
not
really
be
able
to
highly
motivated
creative
comes
on,
and
why
would
they.
D
You
know
there's
complicated
and
from
our
you
know,
citizen
side,
maybe
we're
looking
for
efficiencies.
We're
also
looking
getting.
D
The
community
they've
been
these
pieces
come
together
where
the
ball
is
greater
than
someone's
part.
So
you
know
it
may
be
that
it's
worth
some
just
discussion.
You
know
maybe
things
ideas
that
don't
go
anywhere,
but
wouldn't.
B
A
I
mean
I
I
mean
that
is
just
I
I.
You
know,
I,
think
you
know
I'm
not
saying
that
we
come
up
with
things
that
we
think
they
should
Joy
planned
like,
but
things
that
have
been
identified
already,
that
just
kind
of
that
that
both
words
needed
kind
of
like
sort
of
in
a
way
a
little
bit
of
a
nudge
like
okay,.
B
A
A
C
A
Yes,
okay,
so
this
is
also
a
recommendation
from
in
the
report
for
the
CIP
Direction.
A
B
B
A
They
you
know,
as
we
read
you
know
in
the
initial
recommendation,
that
was
do
a
plan
for
future
faces
of
the
Arlington
career
center
and
that
build
the
building
and
voted
for
which
adds
200
and
69
net
new
high
school
seats
to
the
building
and
and
to
move
and
also
in
the
cdip.
They
were
recommending
to
Montessori
and
rebuilding
into
renovate
the
the
Legacy
Career
Center
Elementary,
School
I'm.
Sorry,
so
does
the
student
enrollment
data
support
the
recommendation
to
Montessori
and
increase
the
program's
capacity
by
237?
B
A
I
mean
the
blue
line
at
the
very
top
shows
our
school.
You
know
how
much
you
know
our
actual
school
capacity
and
the
other
bars
are
projections
telling
us
how
many
students
were
projecting
so
every
year
for
the
next
10
years,
we're
looking
at
close
to
2
000.
Sometimes
you
know
almost
2
000.
A
A
You
know
this
is
also
you
know.
Kind
of
shows
you
you
know
gives
you
a
picture
of.
You
know
how
we
can
potentially
use
an
existing
school
for
swing.
Space
I
think
the
data
does
the
word
that
we
could.
We
could
do
that.
B
A
Why
are
we
creating
237
or
fees
and
I
mean
that.
A
D
This
is
an
embarrassing
question,
but
but
I
may
be
behind
the
times
on.
What's
the
status
of
the
career
center,
what's
going
on
in
that
site,.
A
Pte
classes
you
know
create,
and
the
decision
of
the
board
at
the
time
was
to
build
the
bigger
building
which
added
369
additional
high
schools.
A
A
Right
so
they're
building
a
parking
garage
next
to
it,
that's
they're,
building
the
parking
garage
on
the
where
the
horse
pasture
was
kind
of
there
and
they're
tearing
down
part
of
the
building,
and
the
plan
was
to
in
the
last
CIP
to
move
Montessori
and
that's
still
the
recommendation
here
to
move
Montessori
which
is
currently
occupied
by
own
Patrick
Henry.
Building
on
that
and
they're
going
to
renovate
it
in
the
last
CIP
that.
B
A
Was
estimated
to
convert
that
Legacy
building
had
16
million
in
Renovations
over
the
last
10
years
to
upgrade
to
secondary
seats
they
were
going
to
change.
You
know
their
the.
A
D
So
support
every
CIP.
You
know
it's
from
City
to
CIP
that
they
can
think
of
Alternatives
well,
but
on
slides,
four
of
the
presentation.
D
Yeah,
so
they
explained
that
these
superintendent
is
recommending.
Oh.
D
Thank
you,
yeah,
so
facilities
and
operation
will
present
the
plan
for
future
faces
set
in
April
2024
school
work.
So
some
of
this
you
know
it's
it's
so
evolving.
D
D
You
know
one
of
the
topics
will
be
confirming
the
repurposing
of
the
existing
building
or
mpsa
and
deconstructing
current.
D
That's
that's
something
to
consider
as
well.
You
know
in
terms
of
a
lot
of
the
content.
D
A
A
It's
you
know,
we
think
the
best
decision,
but
I
think
it's
you
know
I
want
us
to
just
kind
of
very
rationally
and
and
to
provide
you
know,
feedback,
that's
valuable
from
a
jfact
perspective.
You
know
and
kind
of
based
on
our
mission
of
analyzing
data
and
joint
use
and
long-range
planning
kind
of
the
bigger
picture.
A
So
I
also
asked
you
know
one
of
the
things
is
there
preliminary
information
for
long-range
facilities,
renovation
plan
that
prioritizes
and
your
Montessori
you
know
like
do
we
know
that
that
Henry
building
I
mean
I
I
know
it
is
a
one-story
building
that
takes
up
a
lot
of
space
on
the
society,
but
do
we
have
data
to
support
that
it
should
get
35
million
dollars
of
innovation
or
any
other
school
I
mean
that's
the.
A
D
A
B
B
A
A
Yeah
they
keep
it
at
100
or
something
yeah,
so
that
that
you
know
like
again
I
just
like
here's,
the
data,
you
know
we're
looking
at
this,
you
know
looking
at
the
seat,
Surplus
that
we
can.
You
know
if
there
is
unbalance,
we
can,
you
know,
do
boundary
changes
program
which
we
have
done.
B
B
A
Anyway,
okay,
could
you
go
back
to
the
I
mean
there
isn't
I
mean
I
I
understand
the
argument
during
made
by
you
know
the
board
and
some
staff
in
the
last
meeting
that,
like
here's,
an
opportunity,
you
know
there's
sort
of
an
opportunity.
Cost
thing
you
know
you
don't
want
to
go
and
in
10
years,
when
we're
looking
at
additional
capacity,
you
know
looking
at
growth
again,
but
right
now,
based
on
birth
rates
and
move-in
rates,
you
know
we're
it's
projecting
a
decline
in
the
end,
High
School
will
see
their
High.
A
Liable
objection
sense
because
you're
you
already
have
students
moving
to
the
system.
You
know
in
the
out
years,
like
when
you're,
when
you're
Elementary
School
in
the
out
years,
you're
like
thinking
about
students
that
have
not
been
born.
Yet
you
know,
so
you
don't
think
things
could
radically
change.
There
could
be
a
baby
boom
post
covered
that
you
don't
know
about
yet
yeah
like
Revenge
travel,
there's
Revenge,
children,
I,
don't
know
you
know,
I
don't
know
like,
but
but
with
high
school.
B
A
Rising
commercial
vacancy
rate
acting
increased
responsibility
to
Metro
pending
yesterday
I'm.
Just
you
know,
new
demands
on
our
money
now
that
kobit
big
money
is
Theory
and
Rising
interest
rates,
which.
B
A
You
know.
10
goes
thus
far
and
Rising
construction
problems,
so
I
mean
that's
sort
of
a
bigger
picture
thing
and
then
another
question
I,
had
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
as
long
as
I've
been
on
a
facilities
advisory
committee,
whether
it
be
the
APS
one
or
the
joint
facilities,
there
has
always
been
this
push
and
value
of
creating
flexible
spaces.
A
A
You
know,
you
know
County
Medical,
Facility
I,
you
know
kind
of
what
are
what
are
you
know?
Are
we
creating
flexible
spaces?
That
was
really
something
that
was
a
value
that
I
that
I
think
makes
sense
and
I
think
it's
a
value
that
was
always
underscored
planning
and
so
I.
Just
question
with
the
you
know
is
the
so
it
is
a
question.
Will
the
renovation
plan
for
the
Legacy
career
center
for
Montessori
at
the
current
estimated
cost
of
35
million
and
be
a
flexible
space,
or
is
this
you
know
a
very
specific
space.
B
A
Made
for
Montessori,
which
is
an
option
program
which
APS
has
a
history
of
moving,
which
doesn't
need
to
be
it's
also
kind
of
in
the
quarter
of
the
county.
That
is
growing
the
Bristol
City
area
and
yeah.
So
does
it
make
sense?
Please
specify
that
building
to.
A
That
building
for
Montessori
that's
a
question:
I.
B
D
I
mean
those
estimates
Robert
I
have
people
doing
sort
of
primary
studies
to
I
am
not
to
be
frank.
I
am
not
familiar.
How
those
estimates
were
worked
on,
I,
know,
facilities
and
operations
whenever
they're
looking
at
possible
facilities,
they
will
work
with
with
engineers
and
Architects
and
get
preliminary
estimates
I
believe.
Maybe
what
some
of
my
colleagues
it
was.
They
might
have
looked
at
some
of
the
past
studies
that
were
commissioned
by
facilitation
for
different
typical
facilities.
C
A
Okay,
so
here's
the
Middle,
School
boundary
process
and
program
also
recommended
also
part
one
of
the
recommendations,
or
it
recommends
moving
finish
immersion
at
Gunston
capacity
to
and
more
and
then
doing
a
County
right
boundary
changes.
A
A
B
A
Flexible
bases
and.
B
D
What
so.
D
B
D
One
neighborhood
you
weren't
tied
to
a
student
is
that
completely
gone
now
the
medical
system,
so
we
still
have
our
options
so
like
at
Middle,
School,
HB
Woodlawn
the
school,
that's
at
102,
but
in
that's
an
option.
It's
cool,
so
students,
middle
school
students
can
enroll
from
all
over
that
one
I
know
yeah
and.
B
D
A
A
Like
if
you
go
to
any
auction
school
like
yeah,
getting
into
science
focused
no
problem,
you
know
like
it
was.
At
least
that
was
you
know,
then,
when
you
know
it,
you
no
one
came
to
our
preschool.
You
know
that
was
bright.
My
son
started
in
2010
first
year
that
we
started
really
growing
and
and
it
you
know
it's,
it
didn't
change
overnight,
but
you
know
very
slowly.
A
You
know,
you
know
that
that
pod
of
schools
that
could
transfer
into
Science
Focus
stopped
because
Science
Focus
got
crazy,
overcrowded
and
it
was
really
kind
of
a
neighborhood
school.
That
was
also
that
possible.
You
know,
and
then
yeah
I
mean
it
really.
All
of
that
changed.
D
B
D
So
some
of
my
colleagues
in
the
office
I
work
for
free
December,
all
the
way
to
march
to
published
for
schools
that
are
overcrowded.
They
they
sometimes
they're
just
they
offer
something
called
neighborhood
transfers.
So,
for
example,
like
Gunston,
some
of
those
students
could
where
the
neighborhood
transferred
to
another
tool.
That
is
slightly
under
capacity.
D
At
the
elementary
level,
too,
and
and
every
year,
it'll
change
a
little
bit
based
on
what
school
is
over
capacity.
What's
under
capacity,
what
level
is
it
under
capacity,
so
we
published
that
probably
enrollment
management
I
believe
the
latest
one
with
us
and
appendix
just
to
show
the
you
know
public
besides
boundaries.
These
are
some
of
the
tools
that
we've
used
year
to
year
to
manage.
Is
there
numbers
in
there
of
how
many
people
transparent
s
I'm,
not
sure,
but
that's
something
you
know
I'm
not
sure
there.
A
Used
to
be
a
transfer,
yeah
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
to
consider
you
know
offering.
B
B
A
B
A
Really
over
capacity
and
having
to
add,
like
10
school
buses
a
year
and
like
how?
How
do
you
manage
it?
You
know,
how
do
you
keep
always
a
shortage
of
bus
drivers
and
they
can't
live
in
Arlington,
so
they
come
from
out
of
or
else
in
the
state
and
then
anyways
it
is.
You
know
it's
sort
of
one
of
those
things
in
Arlington,
the
more
you
think
about
it,
the
more
complicated
it
gets.
We
did
a
couple
of
years
ago,
Montgomery
County
Maryland
has
a
section.
A
You'll
be
able
to
go
to
any
of
the
high
school
and
they
have
different
programs
and
different
Specialties
in
each
school.
So
you
can
kind
of
Choose
Or.
You
can,
you
know
you're
automatically
into
one,
but
they
and
so
a
couple
of
people,
fac
ing
board
members
went
up
to
talk
to
them
about
it
and
the
reason
they
did
it
is
because
they
were
facing
Covington
boundary
changes
just
didn't
want
to
want
to
do
them,
so
they
they.
Let's
just
throw
this
Lottery
and
I
mean
it.
B
A
A
A
Yeah,
anyway,
okay,
do
you
guys
have
any
other
comments.
D
But
so
that
is
included
in
the
report
as
well.
You
very
much.
B
B
A
It's
said
that
aps's
proposed
proposal
that
this
that's
a
an
italics
up
top
is
a
quote
from
page
eight
in
the
previous
year
report,
because
feedback
on
the
superintendent's
proposed
FY
2023
CIP
reported
noted
that
aps's
proposal
lacked
the
level
of
detail
included
in
the
county
CIP
report
APS
includes
details
in
the
pre-ic
report
framework
that
will
be
updated.
A
A
And,
and
my
guess
is
that
that
feedback
that
they
got
from
us
and
they
heard
addressing
that
it
which.
A
D
A
For
the
upcoming
CIP,
the
CIP
that
they
will
vote
on
this
and
so
yeah,
so
I
I
just
do
wonder
what
are
what
are
the
details
in
this
pre-ic
report
that
are
responding
to
that
and
where
can
we
find
and
I
I
guess
that
does
the
question
and
then
you
know
I
think
this
is
also
something
that
you
know
we
can
provide
comment
on
sort
of
given
that
jpeg
is
enjoying
committee
for
both
support
and
County.
B
A
Yeah
I
mean
yeah,
or
you
know,
I'm,
just
sort
of
throwing
that
question
out
there.
You
know,
via
you
know,
a
proactive
recommendation
and
your
VIP
directions
aligned,
you
know
like
are
there
joint
uses?
A
A
You
know
one
CIP
Direction,
but
maybe
not
included
in
another
CIP
Direction,
you
know
are
those
you
know,
I
mean
I,
I
I
mean
I
I.
Think
broad
Strokes
here
is
what
I'm
thinking
about
not
like
very
specific,
like
details
or
asks.
D
D
From
the
last
CIP
process
and
I
think
it
was
something
that
Claire
brought
up
was
just
that
in
in
the
actual
CIP
reports
that
APS
does
the
county
does
they're.
Just
you
know,
they're
formatting
down
and
there's
and
like
it
says,
the
the
top
bullet
here,
it's
a
different
level
of
detail,
and
so
in
the
county
CIP.
D
D
You
know
I'm
saying
that
so
much
detail
in
her
perspective,
this
18
School,
APS,
did
and
so
I
think
that's
where
we've
included
many
reports
within
this
larger
report
to
kind
of
ADD
that
detail
and
just
try
to
explain
as
fully
as
possible
professional
or
why
this
was
concerned.
That
was
considered
any
you
know
and.
D
Boundaries,
for
example,
like
trying
to
give
a
okay.
B
D
An
initial
draft
and
as
opposed.
A
Yeah
I
mean
I,
I,
yeah
I
mean
I,
think
sort
of
giving
feedback
on
this
yeah
we'll
be
you
know,
I
I
mean
I,
think
you
know.
From
my
perspective
to
you,
know
one
of
the
frustrations
or
I
just
say
one
of
the
observations
that
I
had
when
I
was
looking
at
the
cips.
B
A
This
is
the
rationale
that
the
county
manager
viewed.
You
know
in
the
word
that
was
given
in
the
report
was
that
they
had
a
lot
of
backed
up
projects
that
they
needed
to
kind
of
get
into
this
CIP.
B
A
And
for
other
you
know
they
weren't
building
a
pool
or
a
new
community
center,
because
those
were
already
done,
but
you
know
but
but
you
know,
I
first
noticed
that
they
were
really
pushing
that
then
10
percent,
that
service
limit
in
the
last
eight
years,
which
made
me
kind
of
dive
into
it
farther
and
think
okay.
Well,
what
are
what
are
these
and
every
project
was
detailed
and
estimated
and
cost,
and
you
know
there
were
you
know:
numbers
put.
A
And,
and
in
an
APS
and
in
every
prior
CIP
that
I
have
been
a
part
of,
there
were
always
TBD
projects,
but
there
was
always
a
cost
estimated
with
it,
and
a
rationale
for
why
we
needed
to
to
do.
B
A
Tbd
project,
you
know,
like
yeah,
do
an
excess
capacity.
You
know
excess
need
for
elementary
school
seeds,
so
we've
got
to
just
you
know
put
this
in
here.
You
know
or
kind
of
start
thinking
about
where
we're
going
to
find
these
seeds
in
year
time,
and
so
there
was
always
a
number
of
them,
and
so
I
I
had
a
really
hard
time
in
the
with
the
aps,
CIP.
That
was
not.
A
And
so
you
know
to
just
sort
of
say
we're
going
to
do
this
project
this
first
two
years
and
then
we
just
have
all
this
money.
That
will
that
will
determine
later
to
me
is
not
long-range.
Planning
I
mean
they
eventually
plugged
in
numbers
in
there.
But
you.
A
They
eventually
plugged
in
numbers
before
they
adopted
it,
but
is
the
after
at
F7
the
total
projects
for
the
last
four
years.
Five
years
is
just
25
million.
That
was
a
placeholder
that
was
put
in
there
by
the
county
because
they
didn't
get
any
information
from
APS.
A
These
are
the
this
is
the
county
equivalent
of
what
we
just
looked
at
sort
of
and
and
so
it's
easier
so
these
numbers
here,
the
top
line
that
would
be
County,
's
numbers,
and
then
you
see
there,
those
are
APS,
it's
aligning.
A
You
see
here
this
is
the
County's
Debt
Service
ratio,
they're
carrying
for
the
last
five
years,
so
so
I
think
you
know
I
know
that's
not
a
criticism
of
the
county
I.
A
You
know
they
laid
out
very
detailed
explanations
on
what
these
projects
are
for
and
they
have
to
have
these
projects
and
they
are
a
need
for
the
county.
My
advice
to
the
boards
would
be.
A
What
can
the
county
begin
planning
to?
Maybe
not
do
in
those
out
years
to
create
more
capacity?
You
know
like
and
and
I
think,
that's
where
you
know
count
the
county
and
APS
having
aligned,
CIP
directions
and
sort
of
sort
of
General,
very
broad
stroke
or
here's
the
here's,
the
environment,
we're
looking
at
here's
the
the
weather
forecast
that
we're
looking
at
for
the
next
10
years.
D
Just
the
the
county,
you
know
the
numbers
are
all
on
the
page,
but
it's
you
know,
but
it's
kind
of
a
grab
bag
of
checks
yeah
they
you
know
just
so
I
think
for
a
number
of
years
projects
just
change
randomly
seemingly
priorities
like
something
that
wasn't
a
priorities.
D
B
B
D
B
D
D
Yeah
that
could
be
wrong.
You
know
those
kinds
of
things
right
to.
A
Go
I
mean
to
me:
I
could
I
could
see
APS
looking
at
that,
based
on
the
enrollment
data
which
Elementary
School
we're
looking
at
like
more
than
like
almost
2
000
students
granted
that's
based
on
like
students
that
haven't
been
born.
Yet
when
you're
looking
10
years
out
but
I
could
I
could
see
APS
arguing
to
the
county.
B
A
Mean
the
out
here,
the
out
years,
needs
change
every
time
that
your
decisions
change
every
time.
The
you
know,
like
the
amount
of
money,
changes
every
time,
I.
B
A
Most
almost
every
time,
I've
been
a
part
of
it.
There's
more
money.
You
know
the
next
year,
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
I
I
think
it
would
be
interesting
to
ask
you
know
you
know,
given
higher
interest
rates
and
given
the
commercial
vacancy
rates
and
given
other
funding
obligations
that
Arlington
County
is
looking
at.
Do
we
think
this
year
will
be
another
year
we
will
see
or
money
or
is
it
gonna
be
less
or
maybe
about
the
same?
A
B
A
The
information
that
we
have
at
and
like
weather,
forecast
or
a
Greg
really
used
to
talk
about
like
hurricane
path.
You
know,
like
you
know
you
sort
of
see.
You
know
the
farther
you
go
out
the
wider
yeah,
the
wider.
The
path
is
that
it
could
take
a
turn
to
the
right.
It
could
take
a
turn
to
the
left.
You.
D
I
mean
one
thing:
just
you
know
take
away
I've
got
from
tonight.
Is
you
know
it
is
really
difficult
to
predict
the
future,
and
you
know
we
before
we
head
over
here
needed
more
capacity
and
now
we're
yeah,
that's
just
capacity,
but
it's
unbalanced
I
mean
I.
Think
in
terms
of
our
mission
joint
facilities,
you
know
maybe
there's
a
way
of
we
need
to
think
about.
We
look
at
these
facilities
and
how
they
fit
into
integrative
planning.
So,
like
you
just
said,
and
we
have
more
flexibility
in
in
the
spaces
such
that.
D
Portion
of
the
building
can
be
repurposed
for
use.
We
start
to
build
our
facilities
like
Francis
career
center.
You
know,
could
have
been
a
great
place
more
urban
type
of
uses
on
that
site.
You
know
perhaps
some
retail
space
for
housing
for
elements
they
could
explicitly
adapted
blessing
enough
for
more.
D
B
D
Y,
that
check
gets
858.
A
D
A
B
A
Adult
cooking
classes,
you
get
asked
our
chefs
to
come
and
teach
class,
you
know
I,
don't
know
sort
of
just
thinking
out
out
of
the
you
know
if,
for
some
reason,
a
decision
not
converted
to
know
you
know
the
you
know,
I
just
sort
of
think
you
know
just
thinking
you
know,
but
ideas
or
thoughts
for
what
it.
D
D
A
B
A
A
A
Is
that
one
of
the
ideas
that.
B
A
Been
brought
up
to
me
by
this
by
a
school
board,
member
and
Libby
was
for
jfact,
potentially
to
an
after
action
of
covid
for
our
facilities
like
what
did
we?
What
what?
How
were
they
used
during
that
pandemic
and
is
there
a
way
that
we
could
use
them
better
and
your
other
kind
of
future
experiencies?
And
you
know
anyway,
just
throwing
that
out
there.
It's
just
a.
A
A
A
A
B
B
A
B
A
You
know
and
then
we'll
maybe
from
this
discussion
some
example
recommendations
or
thoughts
that
we
can
kind
of
information,
yeah
approve
and
hopefully
then
actually
say
yes
to
that
recommendation
or
change,
because.