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right,
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the
members
of
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public
who
would
like
to
provide
feedback
and
comments.
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lrpc
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has,
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comment
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be
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comment
form
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webpage.
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Freedom
of
Information
Act
I
am
just
going
to
ask
really
quickly
if
we
have
any
planning
Commissioners
who
are
joining
us
remotely
today.
I
know,
commissioner
Peterson
is
a
is
joining
us
remotely.
Are
there
any
other
planning?
A
Okay,
so,
commissioner
Peterson
at
this
point
as
an
initial
point,
we'll
go
around
the
table.
A
Wait
one
person
joining
by
phone.
Would
you
mind
introducing
yourself
okay,
never
mind.
A
All
right
we're
just
going
to
go
around
the
table
and
identify
ourselves:
dementia
Patel,
chair
of
the
Planning
Commission
and
tonight's
chair
of
lrpc
hi.
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L
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L
A
I
would
die,
I
forgot
that
wonderful
and
then
do.
We
have
any
commission
members
that
are
online
joining
us
on
virtually.
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A
I
think
that's
it!
That's
it.
Everyone
I
hope
you
had
a
chance
to
read
and
review
the
agenda,
so
we've
now
kind
of
gone
through
the
welcome
and
introductions
and
I
think
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Natasha
and
Ryan
for
the
update.
Thank.
H
M
Okay,
so
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
also
to
the
members
of
the
lrpc
for
once
again
inviting
the
staff
team
to
provide
an
update
on
the
planning
study.
M
So
joining
me
tonight
are
a
number
of
staff
departments,
including
cphd,
as
you've,
seen
in
the
room
with
planning
and
housing
who
are
joining
us.
Virtually.
We
have
a
staff
on
your
GPR
and
Des
for
transportation
and
storm
water
as
well,
and
as
we
presented
earlier,
Ryan
bauma
the
project
manager
for
a.com
I
was
the
planning
consultant
conducting
the
study
today.
So
the
presentation
will
be
divided
into
two
parts.
M
I'll
begin
with
a
very
brief
overview
of
the
project
timeline
where
we
are
now
and
how
we
went
from
the
preliminary
concept
line
or
the
PCP
as
we
call
it
to
the
draft
area
plan,
which
is
what
we're
discussing
tonight.
Ryan
will
then
follow
with
a
few
highlights
of
what's
in
the
plan
and.
M
Let's
make
sure
I
can
advance
cereal
Okay,
so
wow,
okay,
this
is
saying
it's
holding
on.
So,
as
you
know,
we
are.
B
M
Okay,
all
right,
so
thank
you
for
bearing
with
us
so,
as
you
know,
we're
in
the
process
of
developing
and
ultimately
adopting
a
comprehensive,
high-level
vision
for
the
corridor
that
will
guide
both
public
and
private
investment
long
term.
We
are
currently
completing
phase
three
of
a
multi-phase
planning
study
which
began
in
2019
during
phase
one.
We
completed
the
existing
conditions,
analysis
and
historic
and
cultural
resources
survey
and
this
analysis
informed.
M
The
land
use
scenarios
that
were
presented
in
the
spring
of
2021
at
the
beginning
of
phase
two,
so
feedback
on
those
scenarios
was
used
to
develop
the
preliminary
concept
plan
or
the
PCP
as
we
referred
to
it,
which
was
released
last
summer.
The
feedback
on
the
PCP
was
then
used
to
develop
the
area
plan
that
again,
is
before
you
tonight.
This
draft
plan
was
released
in
June
of
this
year.
M
B
O
M
P
Q
E
A
Yeah,
no,
no
substantive
anything
happened
during
that
time
that
we
lost
whatever
we
did,
and
so
now
we
are
turning
it
over
to
Ryan
and
mine
is
about
to
start
now.
Yeah.
E
C
A
Okay,
thanks
Michelle,
we
are
just
trying
to
queue
up
the
presentation
right
now.
So
sorry
for
the
delay.
N
B
E
N
H
A
Q
G
K
We're
gonna
try
this,
so
the
the
vision
that's
been
carried
forward
from
the
pulmonary
concept
plan
into
the
draft
area
is
the
only
plan
for
people
our
place
so
by
2050
resilience,
renewable
and
re-energized
Corridor
in
mind,
so
they're.
The
draft
airplane
envisions
sustainability
and
environmental
resilience
and
Equity
as
its
foundation
that
that
flows
through
each
of
the
different
planning
elements
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
over
the
next
two
weeks.
K
Those
demographics
and
Equity
being
at
that,
Foundation
is
quite
important
when
you
look
at
the
larger
Washington
region.
Arlington's
population
is
less
racially
diverse,
younger
and
more
affluent
than
that
broader
region
and
within
the
county.
Langston
Boulevard
has
a
lower
percentage
of
residents.
Color
is
more
affluent
and
has
slightly
older
slightly
older
than
the
county
as
a
whole.
K
So
when
starting
the
draft
planning
process,
we
want
to
include
that
commitment
to
advancing
racial
equity,
using
that
Equity
lens
to
understand
where
the
inequities
exist,
where
we
can
and
where
we
can
improve
things
where
we
can
add
the
choice
necessary
and
evaluate
the
potential
benefits
and
burdens
of
promoting
that
change
and
look
at
how
those
burdens
are
distributed.
C
P
K
P
P
M
I
see
you
now
all
right.
Yes
do
you
know
where
it
is:
okay,
just
go
to
meetings
all
the
way
down
to
public
and
then
lrbc
should
be
you're
in
phase
three
right,
lrpc
right
there
725
and
it
should
be
the
last
one.
Q
N
H
H
Q
E
G
E
K
Catch
it
up,
okay,
one
of
the
important
things
to
keep
in
mind
and
what
are
the
motivations
for
the
entire
planning
efforts
by
right
development?
That
process
is
not
resulting
in
the
changes
necessary
to
see
so
quite
a
bit,
whether
that's
the
lack
of
housing,
diversity
or
the
fragmented
streetscape
or
the
continuation
of
the
impervious
services.
K
It's
important
for
us
to
incentivize
Redevelopment
outside
of
the
buy
right
process
in
order
to
see
those
goals
really
so,
in
order
to
proactively
plan
for
change.
The
area
plan
guides
those
improvements
and
the
decision
making
for
new
buildings,
site
improvements
and
other
infrastructure.
It
looks
to
incentivize
development
that
can
help
transform
Langston
Boulevard
into
that
walkable,
sustainable,
Urban,
Main,
Street
environment
that
we're
looking
for
to
realize
those
County
goals:
affordable
housing,
biofilia
safety,
Transportation,
Public,
Access
and
racial.
K
K
H
M
You
were
going
to
interview
if
you
have
any
questions
on
what
Ryan
presented
or
what
I
shared
tonight.
We
can
do
that
or
we
can
Skip
and
just
go
straight
to
policy.
M
To
we
can
we
can
meet
up
some
time
here.
Sorry,
thank
you
all
right.
So,
as
as
Ryan
stated
a
number
of
times,
you
know
the
vision
for
for
the
corridor
itself
is
obviously
to
become
a
green
Main
Street
of
neighborhoods
that
are
linked
together
or
you
have
linked
businesses,
mixed-use
activity,
nodes,
housing
and
public
spaces.
Together.
M
This
requires
a
new
planning
framework,
a
new
land
use
framework
than
the
one
that
we
currently
have.
So
the
map
that
you
see
here
really
illustrates
how
development
in
the
future
should
be
concentrated
in
the
mixed
use
activity
hubs,
three
of
which
are
existing
today
and
four
new
ones
that
we've
identified
that
are
again
connected
by
areas
of
lower
intensity
development
along
with
areas
primarily
or
predominantly
multi-family,
to
expand
opportunities
for
increasing
multi-family
housing
along
the
border.
M
M
You
know
where
adoptive
plans
and
policies
and
implementation
tools
already
exists
to
guide
implementation
in
that
area.
So
this
corridor-wide
planning
framework
that
we're
proposing
here
is
further
defined
in
the
plan
through
a
series
of
use
mixed
maps
for
each
of
the
neighborhood
areas,
which
specify
specifically
in
each
of
those
areas
where
we
would
like
to
see
commercial,
multi-family,
residential
or
mixed
use,
development
and
where
public
spaces
and
public
facilities
should
be
incorporated
as
part
of
new
development
or
Redevelopment
of
any
of
those
neighborhoods.
M
So
before
we
introduce
the
policies
and
we're
going
to
now
get
into
the
the
various
key
planning
elements
under
built
environment,
as
we
said
in
the
next
meeting,
which
is
tentatively
scheduled
for
September
5th,
we're
going
to
cover
the
public
realm
policies
or
keep
planning
elements
so
tonight
we're
going
to
focus
on
mainly
economic
Vitality,
housing,
building,
form,
public
schools
and
historic
and
cultural
resources.
M
So
before
introducing
those
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
what
you
see
on
the
slides
is
is
a
summarized
very
distilled
version
of
the
policies.
Obviously
you
know.
In
some
cases
we
have
over
20
policies
for
one
specific
element,
so
just
wanted
to
know
that
for
the
discussion
purposes
we
streamlined
them
so
that
we
can
capture.
You
know
just
the
the
high
level
points
that
are
important
to
convey
so
for
economic
Vitality.
M
The
policies
here
really
focused
on
strengthening
the
commercial
base
that
already
exists
along
the
border,
which
we
know
is
successful
very
little
to
zero
percent
vacancy
rate
along
the
border
today,
and
the
recommendation
is
really
to
concentrate
development
in
the
core
areas
that
support
commercial
activity
in
jobs.
M
This
obviously
can
be
achieved
by
expanding
the
residential
uses,
the
densities
that
are
allowed
today,
which
thereby
increase
the
housing
Supply
along
the
border
and
also
by
designating
public
spaces
that
support
social
Gathering,
which
is
again
supportive
of
the
businesses.
So
with
that,
we
can
open
it
up
to
some
discussion.
I
did
provide
in
the
in
the
slides,
and
maybe
you
got
a
chance
to
look
at
it,
a
sample
of
the
use
mix
maps
for
each
of
the
neighborhood
areas.
M
It
just
really
helps
to
see
that
in
some
locations
we've
actually
identified
ground
floor
priority
areas.
These
are
areas
where
we're
indicating
that
the
ground
floor
area,
the
ground
floor
spaces
should
remain
non-residential
and
where
spaces
should
be
built
as
commercial
ready
or
spaces
that
can
be
occupied
in
the
future
by
retail
or
retail,
equivalent
uses.
M
We
further
Define
them
or
designated
the
two
types
which
are
the
gold
and
the
blue,
and
the
difference
between
the
two,
obviously,
is
that
you
know
on
Gold,
Street
frontages
those
ground
floor
spaces
would
be
required
or
should
be
designed
to
provide
interior
as
well
as
exterior
features
that
support
retail
and
Retail
equivalent
uses,
whereas
in
Blue
Street
frontages,
only
exterior
features
are
required,
and
so
anywhere
else
along
the
corridor
or
and
also
in
residential
districts
like
the
multi-founded
residential
district.
We
we
do
allow
for
retail
uses
on
the
ground
floor.
M
So
we
do
a
lot
for
mixed
use
in
those
areas
as
well,
but
in
those
cases
the
retailers
or
the
ground
floor
space
is
not
required
to
be
designed
to
provide
the
interior
of
the
exterior
spaces.
It's
it's
optional
and
should
retail
uses
be
provided
along
the
along
the
ground
floor
in
those
areas
in
between
the
activity
hubs.
What
we
ask
is
that
the
spaces
are
designed
to
incorporate
design
elements
that
create
active
speed,
frontages
and
encourage
pedestrian
multimodal
Mobility.
A
So
what
we're
going
to
do
now
is
when
you
look
at
your
agenda,
you'll,
see
under
item
number
six
under
the
B
subsection.
You
see
a
bullet
point
that
says
built
environment
policies
and
Associated
design
guidelines.
There
are
five
bullets
under
that
we're.
Actually
what
we've
decided
to
do
is
because
there's
so
much
material
here
and
Natasha's
going
to
present
one
of
the
bullets
and
then
we're
going
to
provide
an
opportunity
for
everyone
to
ask
them
questions
with
regard
to
what
they've
just
heard.
A
We
understand
that
some
some
bullets
May
produce
very
little
question,
and
some
of
them
will
be
areas
that
we
want
to
have
more
discussion
on.
So,
unlike
meetings
that
you
attend
with
me,
typically,
that
include
route
Robin.
This
is
actually
just
popcorn.
Whoever
would
like
to
go
can
ask
the
question.
Anybody
have
a
question
on
this
particular
element.
C
A
C
On
retail,
but
I'm
going
to
get
concerned
about
is
that
these
standards
or
retail
on
a
particular
nodes,
but
between
those
but
at
the
nodes
themselves,
are
a
little
too
loose
that
we
could
end
up
having
residential,
only
buildings
because
of
the
allowance
of
around
four
equivalents,
that
building
itself
would
be
completely
residential
and
they
would
then
use
the
ground
floor
for
the
president
on
the
gym.
The
Bike
Room
things
like
that.
C
My
fear
is
that
at
the
main
activity,
node
that's
going
to
get
me
even
though
people
want
from
Bible
see
activity
in
their
eyes
on
the
street,
which
is
good.
It's
still,
you
have
to
walk
by,
because
members
of
the
public
can't
will
never
be
able
to
use
it
because
it's
for
the
building
owner,
it's
essentially
a
litigated
community
right
there
at
our
most
active
areas.
E
Yeah
I
would
concur
with
Jim
on
that
issue
as
well.
M
We
try
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
because
in
the
areas
where
we
have
required
it
in
the
past,
we've
seen
that.
M
I
think
we
want
to
avoid
that
here
on
the
on
the
quarter.
As
I
said
when
we
started
there's
a
hundred
percent
occupancy
rate
yeah,
it's
not
vacant,
it's
a
successful
order.
M
I
think
that
for
for
the
concern
that
you
have,
which
that
we
might
end
up
getting
residential
type
uses
that
are
certainly
we're
not
we're
advocating
or
recommending
that
no
non-residential,
sorry
that
no
residential
uses
are
early,
it
has
to
be
non-residential,
but
for
those
types
of
auxiliary
uses
that
say
that
part
of
the
residential
building
I
think
those
things
can
be
further
explored
or
defined
as
we
go
through
the
sideline
processes
in
each
one
of
these
sites,
because
we
could
possibly
look
for
designing
the
ground
floor
space
to
be
able
to
move
those
spaces
in
a
way
that
still
creates
activity.
A
I
think
one
one
issue
that
now
I'm
thinking
backing
up
your
point
here:
the
I
think
that
what
you're
saying
makes
it
different
right.
So
if
we
are
concerned
about
how
we
require
that
or
made
some
preference
in
other
spaces,
how
does
that
look
differently
than
than
Langston
and
then
I
think
the
other
problem
we
think
about
well,
even
looking
at
that
there
are
some
spaces
where
it's
not
been
successful
on
the
ground
right
at
you
know
where
Gaijin
used
to
be
like
that
noise
is
just
completely
empty
on
the
ground
level.
A
A
Hang
on
one
second,
okay,
just
one
second,
because
I
want
to
get
an
answer
to
this
question.
Sure
sure,
yes,.
M
D
To
to
respond
to
to
Eric's
point
I
mean
the
plan
is
a
guide
It's
policy-
it's
not
regulatory,
so.
T
D
D
That's
why
we've
intentionally
said
we've
got
ground
floor
priority
area,
so
we
get
mixed
use
in
those
areas,
but
we
know
that
some
uses
that
are
ancillary
to
retail
buildings
can
qualify
for
retail
equivalent,
but
there's
other
uses
that
bring
patrons
in
into
a
building
that
are
not.
You
know
from
upstairs
like
medical
offices
that
or
child
care
that
also
count
as
as
retail
equivalent.
D
So
I
think
we
understand
that
we
want
to
be
able
to
drive
activity
and
not
have
Dead
Space,
even
if
it
looks
like
a
shop
front,
so
I
think
that
that's
some
feedback
that
we
can
take
back
and
see
if
there's
any
way
that
we
can
clarify
our
intent
here
is
when
we're
looking
at
site
plans
in
those
locations,
we're
not
looking
to
populate
all
of
the
these
ground
priority
areas
with
the
ancillary
uses.
Now
that
means
that
they
make.
C
Yeah
I'm,
just
certainly
clear
concern
I
have
this,
because
we
have
very
few
retail
vacancies
extremely
successful.
There's
a
huge
demand
for
retail
space
that
doesn't
mean
that
property
owner
will
want
to
accommodate
that
simply
because
it
might
be
simpler
and
easier
to
just
build
a
single-use
building.
D
So
there
are
some
places
in
where
we
have
retail
today
that
we
are
open
to
a
residential
building,
but
in
these
activity,
areas
which
are
really
at
our
key
intersections.
D
A
Okay,
so
we've
got
Cynthia
Hilton
from
fact
who
also
has
a
pressure
question.
A
P
You
I
hope
you
can
hear
me.
Yes,
thank
you
and
yes,
I
am
participating
as
from
fact
that
I'm
also
a
resident
of
Cherrydale
and
I
just
have
to
and
I
see
on
your
map
that
is
displayed
that
you're
not
displaying
the
entire
length
of
the
of
this
project.
P
P
We
just
had
in
this
stretch
of
road,
it's
kind
of
a
by
the
Safeway
down
there,
because
there's
no
parking
so
just
just
to
put
that
on
your
radar
that
there
is
an
area
of
Langston
Boulevard
that
does
not
have
the
successful
story
that
we're
all
hoping
for
and
the
community
here
things
that's
attributed
to
no
parking
and
the
little
bit
of
parking
they
have
is
metered
and
which
no
one
parks
in
the
meters.
So
thank
you.
O
I
Bribie
commercial
establishment
now
is
on
a
site
that
redevelops
does
that
then,
typically,
what
has
happened
in
other
words,
is
that
if
they
have
the
opportunity
to
go
back
in
it's
much
higher
rate
and
they
can't
survive
that.
So
if
we
already
have
a
thriving
commercial
report,
how
is
that
going
to
balance
so
that
we
don't
destroy
the
thriving
commercial
corridor,
we're
trying
to
get
more
people
but
seriously.
K
Of
you'd
have
to
change
the
building
back
again,
there
have
been
different
times.
People
have
suggested.
Is
there
some
kind
of
rule
that
can
be
put
into
the
plan
to
legislate
that
process
and
that's
a
very
difficult
thing
in
an
area.
K
By
requiring
the
space
to
be
built
to
allow
for
uses
that
was
step,
one
making
sure
that
we
didn't
just
have
the
situation
that
Jim
or
just
be
easier
to
do
a
single
use.
Building
that
completely
precluded
those
business
so
step,
one
was
to
make
sure
that
we
had
spaces
that
could
accommodate
and
then,
when
it
comes
to
the
rent
or
the
lease
rate
for
that
space,
that's
not
really
something
that
the
discussion
has
been
and
that's
not
something
in
the
area
plan.
K
They
can't
regularly
I
think
it's
a
function
of
broader
discussions
throughout
the
county
or
how
the
affordability
of
retail
space
is
maintained.
K
H
K
K
F
I
really
appreciate
that
I
I
I've
had
that
concern
along
Columbia
Mike
about
a
lot
of
our
Legacy
businesses.
It's
it's
this
question
right
like
how
much
does
government
sort
of
get
involved
right?
We
can't
really
require
you
know
business
to
be
able
to
come
back,
and
you
know
there's
this
concern
about
incentivizing.
You
know
Redevelopment,
which
may
push
out
some
of
these
businesses,
but
I
do
agree
like
it
took
30
years
for
corridors
along
the
metro,
to
fully
development
and
overnight
so
I
think
for
us
to
get
the
environment
that
we
want.
F
And
much
more
assertively
and
thoughtfully
about.
C
One
thing
we
should
all
keep
in
mind
when
we're
looking
at
discipline
is
compared
to,
if
you
don't
have
the
plan,
what
will
happen
and
you're
seeing
a
turnover
in
our
Legacy
business
anyway,
because
a
lot
of
them
are
individually
ill.
We
get
people
retiring
people
wanted
to
move
on.
So
that's
going
to
happen
anyway.
We're
having
that
turnover
will
happen
anyway.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,.
C
A
Thank
you.
Okay.
We
did
not
discuss
anything
substantive
when
we
were
kicked
out
and
I.
Think
Ginger
had
a
question
I.
Think
you're
here
as.
E
I
Just
again,
you
know
recognize
that
concern,
and
it
probably
is
the
county-wide
policy
of
how
do
you
actually
encourage
small
local
businesses?
I
mean
that's
the
broader
issue.
Yeah.
The
other
thing
I'd
raises
is
having
developers
think
about
kind
of
future
proofing.
Some
of
their
development,
I'm,
saying
particularly
in
terms
of
parking
in
underground
parking,
is
designing
it
in
ways
that
hopefully,
fewer
people
will
be
having
cars
and
they'll
have
empty
spaces.
I
So
what
do
they
do
there
and
that
might
be
another
excellent
opportunity
to
provide
space
for
small
businesses
catering
dishwashing,
to
do
you
know,
carryout,
containers
and,
and
also
other
by
entertainment.
You
can
hopefully
a
lot
of
things
that
could
be
done,
but
I
think
it
requires
a
little
bit
of
poor
thought
in
the
development
of
the
building
to
design.
So
it's
easier
to
repurpose
those
types
of
bases.
A
I
think
it
does
go
hand
in
hand
with
a
lot
of
the
concerns
the
Planning
Commission
has
been
raising
around
affordable
ability
of
housing
that
we
need
to
be
thinking
about,
or
the
county
needs
to
be
thinking
about
ways
to
incentivize
small
Legacy
businesses
to
use
your
term
Eric
Legacy
businesses
who
are
per
you
know
in
this
space
or
thinking
about
racially
diverse,
and
you
know
Equitable
options
for
us.
How
do
we
make
sure
that
we
are
helping
that
right?
And
so
maybe
we
can
take
that
back
in
some
way?
G
Yes
in
any
way
to
I
know
or
have
stones,
for
example,
like
you
know,
they're
their
incentives
for
people
to
come
into,
but.
H
G
Obviously,
place
that's
very
wealthy,
so
what
could
we
do?
I
mean
going
along
with
these
questions?
Is
there
a
mechanism,
s
I'm,
so
excited
somehow
or
businesses
that
are
starting
off
or
I?
Don't
know
what
could
be
something.
M
That's
something
that
we
can,
we
can
go
back
and
research
see
what
opportunities
there
are.
I
know
that
the
plan
mentions
in
one
of
the
policies
to
maybe
look
at
some
kind
of
revitalization
program
for
commercial
businesses,
especially
for
the
small
ones
that
maybe
just
need
to
renovate
or-
or
you
know,
improve
that
you
know
they
don't
have
a
tool
like
that
today
that
they
could
possibly
use
so.
H
M
M
It's
going
to
stay
with
us
for
a
very
long
time
and
at
the
end
of
the
day
parking
is
going
to
have
to
you
know
it's
it's
going
to
be
an
evolution.
It's
going
to
change.
Eventually
it's
going
to
transform
we're
going
to
start
using
it
less.
You
know.
H
M
Cars,
but
for
a
very
long
time,
we're
probably
going
to
need
to
incorporate
it
in
some
way
or
another
and
I
think
the
plan
recognizes
that
part
of
the
challenges
that
the
businesses
have
today
and
I.
Think
to
the
point
of
the
lady
who
mentioned
in
Cherrydale
right.
If
there's,
there
seems
to
be
a
lack
of
parking
and
some
of
the
businesses
are
failing,
because
of
that,
the
plan
recognizes
that
there
needs
to
be
a
sort
of
different
types
of
parking,
different
formats
of
parking.
Some
people
are
better.
M
You
know
they
prefer
the
above
ground.
Others,
you
know
would
like
to
see
it
more
underground.
It
doesn't
matter
what
type
it
is,
but
there
has
to
be
a
good
balance
and
I
think
for
the
small
businesses.
What
we
found
when
we
did
our
analysis
of
the
parking
sort
of
inventory
in
the
commercial
and
multi-family
areas
is
that
it's
really
all
over
the
place
in
some
areas
that
there
is
no
parking.
Some
businesses
have
zero
parking.
M
Others
are
overparked
Beyond,
what's
required
by
by
the
code
and
somewhere
somewhere
in
between
they're,
relying
on
on-street
parking
and
and
and
so
on,
and
but
what
we
did
find
is
that
in
general,
in
those
commercial
establishments
there
was
a
sufficient.
It's
just
that
the
access
was
difficult.
It
was
invisible.
M
Most
people
experience
it
like
a
frustrating
thing
to
find
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
the
plan
addresses
or
recommends
is
that
as
businesses,
whether
they
renovate
or
redevelop
or
not,
is
that
they
they
try
to
look
at
ways
to
share
it.
Working
especially
share
access
because
that's
that's
our
biggest
hurdle
is
not
being
able
to
share
access.
You
know
in
or
between
four
contiguous
Lots.
U
Up,
yes,
I
do.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thanks
for
the
opportunity,
I'm
learning
so
much.
My
question
has
to
do.
I
wasn't
going
to
raise
this
about
Legacy
businesses,
but
I
do
know.
This
is
something
we've
come
up
against
over
the
last
10
15
years,
seeing
beloved
small
businesses
leave,
but
also
the
issue
of,
and
I'm,
not
clear
on
this.
U
If
we're
proposing
to
change
some
of
the
zoning
so
that
some
of
those
businesses
that
are
on
Langston
Boulevard
now
would,
you
know,
perhaps
have
a
hard
time
relocating
there
if
they
had
to
leave
and
then
come
back
like
the
auto
repair,
and
this
is
because
we
ran
into
this
when
we're
looking
at
Four
Mile
Run,
and
they
we
initially
thought
about
removing
the
light
industrial
and
it
turns
out.
U
Some
people
have
done
some
studies
and
said:
that's
the
sort
of
thing
communities
end
up
regretting
later
so
I
guess
I
just
want
us
to
be
as
we're
looking
so
thoughtfully
at
these
different
neighborhoods
and
how
whether
we
want
to
incentivize
businesses
to
stay
or
otherwise
I
think
that
Langston
Boulevard
is
a
little
bit
like
Columbia
Pike
in
that.
If
you
do
need
to
get
your
car
fixed
you're,
getting
an
admissions
check.
Those
are
the
sort
of
places
you
can
go.
U
I
know,
I
have
a
friend
that
was
the
only
place
he
could
find
affordable
small
space
for
a
you
know,
a
couple
of
startups
that
he
has
so
I
just
I
want
to
keep
that
in
mind
as
well
and
I
know
the
links
to
build.
Our
team
has
put
a
lot
of
thought
into
this,
so
they
probably
are
thinking
about
this
as
well,
but
I
just
wanted
to
align
myself
with
that
sort
of
thinking.
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
I
also
read
through
the
through
it,
and
yes,
we
do
have
more
flexibility
on
parking
in
the
plan.
I
want
I
want
to
make
sure
that
our
parking
stuff
is
really
crystal
crystal
clear
that
this
is
a
different
car,
at
least
in
areas.
Two
three
and
four,
that
what
works
along
the
Metro
corridors
won't
really
work
here,
and
we
have
example
both
in
Cherrydale,
which
is
outside
of
this
plan
by
the
way
make
sure
people
understand.
C
It's
not
part
of
this
and
Columbia
Pike,
where
a
business
just
didn't
have
the
right
amount
of
parking
in
it.
We
have
a
lot
of
vacancies
there
in
corridors
that
are
really
high
demand,
so
that
flexibility
has
to
be
really
front
and
center
that
it's
okay
here
to
not
have
underground
parking
as
the
first
choice
for
a
number
of
reasons.
But
you
know
just
recognition
in
the
coming
that
this
will
remain
to
a
certain
extent,
Auto
oriented
we're
trying
to
shift
that
and
that's
absolutely
the
right
way
to
go.
G
Okay,
yes,
so
really
quickly
in
terms
of
going
back
to
just
businesses,
in
addition
to
Legacy
businesses,
I'm
wondering
if
there
could
be
an
opportunity
to
work
with
Arlington
Economic
Development
Center,
where
they
have
you
know,
it's
an
incubator
and
Professor
could
be
a
program
that,
if
you
start
your
startup
or
your
small
business
business,
that
there's
some
sort
of
pipeline
I,
don't
know
some
sort
of
affordable
businessman
that
we're.
Q
M
G
M
M
The
primary
recommendation
is
to
encourage
or
concentrate
residential
development
in
the
port
by
allowing
residential
in
commercial
areas,
which
we
know
is
not
allowed
today
and
by
increasing
densities
throughout
to
increase
the
supply
of
housing,
particularly
multi-family
and
I,
know.
We've
said
that
a
couple
of
times,
but
that
is
the
key.
M
The
plan
sets
policies
for
increasing
committed,
affordable
units
which
are
units
that
are
affordable
to
households,
earning
up
to
60
of
the
area
median
income.
This
can
be
achieved
a
number
of
ways,
including
Redevelopment
and
input
of
sites
that
have
existing
calves
on
them
that
are
through
renegotiated
agreements
to
extend
the
terms
of
those
existing
calves
along
the
corridor
through
the
conversion
of
existing
marks.
Two
caps
and,
as
we
know,
marks,
are
pretty
vulnerable.
Many
are
in
aging
buildings
that
at
some
point
may
be
renovated
or
redeveloped
and.
H
H
M
So,
lastly,
the
plan
establishes
a
policy
to
accommodate
renovation
of
those
aging
residential
buildings
in
order
to
sustain
those
marks,
at
least
for
the
period
of
until
the
property
owners
choose
to
redevelop
or
take
advantage
of
the
options
that
are
available
under
the
plan.
So
with
that,
we
have
a
couple
of
maps.
M
Sorry,
just
just
we
can
scroll
through
them
they're
here
it
just
provides
some
context
of
what's
existing
along
the
border.
This
is
the
housing
types
and
then
the
marks
and
caps
along
the
border,
and
then
one
more
is
just
sort
of
the
the
for
more
the
the
sort
of
the
breakdown
of
the
multi-family
units
along
the
border
like
which
are
Apartments
versus
condo.
So
we
need
to
refer
to
that
up
here.
I
The
newer
and
we
developed
corridors
when
developments
coming
in
with
the
like
contribution
or
a
cash
contribution
or
on-site
units,
and
it
sometimes
seems
to
be
a
losing
battle
to
get
on-site
units
now,
at
least
up
until
now,
historically
from
what
I've
seen
in
the
county,
maybe
not
on
place,
but
the
developments
that
come
in
usually
our
market
rate
we've
seen
that
on
Columbia
Pike
and
my
concern
is
power.
I
We're
planning,
especially
if
we're
talking
about
Equity
Equity,
is
not
going
to
be
achieved
unless
there's
a
lot
more
ability,
because
it's
not
going
to
happen.
So
my
concern
with
some
of
this
is
that
I
haven't
been
able
to
achieve
this
good
places
in
the
county.
So
what
makes
us
think
that
we
can
hear?
What
is
it
about
this?
That
is
going
to
enable
us
to
achieve
it
better,
because
my
concern
is
that
they're
still
going
to
have
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
can
make
a
cash
contribution
by
goodbye
and
her
wall.
I
F
Well,
I
I
want
to
I
want
to
tag
on
to
negro.
Neo
was
saying
with
a
question
so
So
the
plan
costs
contemplates
that
there
could
be
approximately.
What
do
I
see
here?
We
can
get
two
2400,
more
calves,
I
think
it's
more
pass
right
or
maybe
new
caps
by
2075.
Can
you
just
walk
us
through
like
how
that
to
that
number?
Obviously,
folks
are
flagging.
That
and
saying
whoa
that's
slightly
less
than
the
portal
housing
master
plan
500
by
2040..
M
Sure,
well
it
it
was
a
long
process
to
get
to
that
number.
Primarily
because,
as
you
know,
we've
changed
the
heights
a
number
of
times
from
the
beginning
of
the
process,
when
we
did
the
scenario
analysis
and
then
through
the
PCP
and
now
through
the
area
plan.
So
we've
been
through
the
use
of
a
land
use
model
that
our
consultant
prepared
for
the
corridor.
We
tested
pretty
much
every
site
along
the
border
in
the
core
areas.
Where
we're
showing
change.
M
We
tested
the
sites
that
we
thought
had
the
most
opportunity
for
change,
meaning
that
either
they
were
ready
for
redevelopment.
They
had
ample
room
to
provide
infill
and
really
try
to
test
each
of
those
sites
to
see
what
could
fit.
We
tested
it
a
number
of
different
ways.
We
looked
at
parking
above
ground,
which
is
a
very
conservative
approach,
meaning.
Obviously,
if
you
put
parking
above
ground,
you
get
less
units
right.
M
If
you
put
parties
with
low
ground,
you
have
more
developable
area,
and
so
we
tested
it
that
way
too,
and
basically,
after
putting
all
those
numbers
in
for
each
one
of
those
sites
that
we
tested
and
looked
at
it
along
the
whole
entire
quarter.
We
came
up
with
a
number
that
we
thought
was
reasonable,
based
on
what
we
tested
on
those
sites,
and
then
we
wrote
that
out
based
on
when
we
thought
that
development
could
come
and
come
online
some
sites
we
knew
are
ready
to
move
forward.
M
They
they've
already
contacted
staff.
You
know
with
ideas
of
how
they
want
to
see
infill
and
even
Redevelopment
they're
all
there.
There
are
a
few
of
them
and
you
know
they're
sort
of
spread
out
very
across
the
whole
entire
quarter.
So
it's
not
like
it's
in
one
concentrated
area,
but
it
does
tell
us
it
gives
us
an
indication
of
when
those
projects
might
come
on
come
online.
M
So
that's
why
you
see
the
spread
happening
anywhere
between
now
and
by
2075.,
and
so
then
a
portion
of
those
units
at
the
very
beginning,
when
we
looked
at
this
sort
of
Land
Use
model
at
the
very
beginning,
when
we
were
preparing
the
preliminary
concept
plan,
we
weren't
sure
yet
what
the
tools,
what
the
the
implementation
tools
were
going
to
be
both
for
the
glove
and
for
the
zoning.
M
So
for
that
calculation
we
applied
a
general
10
of
new
development,
and
we
did
that
also
for
the
director
replied
that
you
have
in
front
of
you.
Obviously,
in
the
difference
between
the
PCP
and
the
draft
plan,
is
there
was
a
little
slight
increase
and
that's
because
we
went
back
and
added
a
few
areas
where
there's
additional
height
those
numbers
we're
still
looking
at
you
know
very
carefully.
M
Agent
can
speak
a
little
bit
more
to
that.
We've
done
a
more
deep
dive
analysis,
let's
say
of
those
sites
that
we've
and
we've
identified
our
ready
for
redevelopment
and
where
we've
shown
additional
height
to
to
test
different
things,
certainly
applying
the
the
sort
of
the
tools
that
we
have
in
mind.
At
the
moment,
and
so
those
numbers
might
might
change
a
little
bit,
but
that
is
how
we
got
to
this
very.
K
K
M
D
It
I
mentioned
that
we
do
have
a
couple
of
properties
along
the
corridor
that
are
in
non-profit,
affordable
housing,
ownership
hands,
and
so
you
know
when
we've
talked
to
them
and
we're.
D
You
know
we're
looking
at
opportunities
where
they
can
either
infill
or
redevelop
and
we're
making
some
assumptions
there,
but
that
those
would
continue
to
remain
non-profit
owned
sites
and
we
would
be
able
to
achieve
you
know
a
higher
degree,
a
higher
percentage
of
units
as
affordable
units,
hopefully
up
to
you,
know
potentially
100,
so
that
went
into
some
of
the
the
factors
and
you
know
will
will
properties
change
hand,
will
more
sites
come
into
non-profit?
D
D
We
are
looking
to
use
the
site
plan
tool
for
by
and
large
votes
of,
the
development
under
this
plan,
and
we
know
that
through
the
site
plan
process,
that
we
have
the
affordable
housing
ordinance
that
applies
so
we
expect
that
projects
would
contribute
as
part
of
their
base
density
and
while
they
have
options
for
on-site
units
off-site
units
or
cash
contributions.
Most
projects
are
providing
cash
contributions,
and
so
we
can't
guarantee
that
those
dollars
come
back
in
terms
of
unit
on
Langston,
Boulevard.
D
There's,
certainly
opportunities
to
do
that,
and
those
dollars
could
certainly
help
boost
that
some
of
those
nonprofit
owned
sites.
But
we
we
do
think
that
there's
additional
development
within
the
height
limits
that
we
are.
D
A
So
Karen
Joan
Jim.
G
This
is
something
that's
really
important
to
me
and
I
could
easily
see
you
become
more
of
a
declarative
businesses
and
people
who
were
able
to
afford
it
are
not
going
to
have
a
space
there,
and
also,
just
in
general,
a
low,
affordable
housing
is
so
hard
to
come
by
and,
as
we
have
all
said,
you
know,
usually
developers
do
the
cash
contribution
and
so
I
think
there
has
to
be
a
better
way
to
incentivize
so
that
we
do
have
those
affordable
units
within
the
buildings,
foreign.
I
Looks
like
it's
talking
about
total
Redevelopment
over
particularly
there's
a
lot
of
market
right,
affordable,
housing
there
and
another
approach
is
to
trying
to
work
with
those
two.
Maybe
you
talk
about.
I
So
I
think
you
know
it
doesn't
mean
that
there
are
opportunities
to
expand
them.
You
know
they
can
infill
on
parking
spaces,
as
you
had
other
things,
maybe
going
up
and
on
the
structure
of
the
building.
The
other
opportunity
here
is
that
there's
a
lot
of
money
out
there
for
renovation
at
or
just
you
know,
Energy
Efficiency,
52
electrification
in
that.
I
That
is
a
good
carrot
for
the
owners
that
to
and
and
actually
then
we'll
guarantee
that
those
Apartments
stay
as
affordable
housing,
whether
it's
you
know
so
it
becomes
committed,
affordable
housing
for
sir
and
a
good
portion
of
time.
So
I
think
that
should
be.
You
know
a
key
strategy
for
developing
from
a
whole
range
of
different
sustainability
perspectives,
as
well
as
preserving.
H
C
Yeah
see
that
map
up
there,
it's
one
end
to
the
other.
It's
five
different
areas,
that's
inspired
into
our
goal,
is
roughly
2500.
Affordable
units
in
there
know
that
areas
of
one
expose
Church
Cherrydale,
are
not
part
of
this
plan.
Both
of
those
areas
have
significant
properties
that
could
be
redeveloped
and
would
be
a
great
place
for
affordable
housing.
So
our
goal
will
simply
not
emit
by
this
plan
as
it's
being
passed
just
because
we
have
two-fifths
of
the
corridor
that
are
outside
the.
T
C
A
lot
of
them,
however,
have
real
problems,
because
they're
very
old
buildings
that
are
coming
up
for
Renewal
and
whether
those
owners
can
afford
to
do
that
is
a
real
question
within
those
buildings
are
a
number
of
rental
units
that
the
owners
are
renting
out
and
those
you
may
not
be
inventorious
marks
on
the
counties
in
the
County's
inventory.
We
I
think
it's
important
that
we
want
to
recognize
that
they
are
there.
They
do
provide
great
resource.
C
Second,
there
has
to
be
making
an
acknowledgment
that
there
has
to
be
some
way
to
be
able
to
support
these
these
entity,
these
these
buildings,
either
to
help
them
redevelop
that
they
can
stay
affordable
in
some
way
or
another,
or
simply
read
it
renovate
that
they
can
remain
in
place.
C
E
H
A
Hear
from
us,
you
have
zero
committed,
affordable,
housing
on
site.
That's
not,
okay!
Why
do
we
keep
doing
that?
We
see
every
applicant
before
us.
It's
not
an
acceptable
way
for
us
to
be
doing
business
in
Arlington.
You've
got
to
change
your
culture.
You
know
we
keep
saying
the
same
thing
over
and
over
again,
I
think.
The
issue
is
now
for
us
to
try
to
think
about
ways
that
sure
legislatively
regulatory
confines
side.
A
We
have
to
think
about
Langston
Boulevard,
as
this
huge
plans
huge
opportunity,
it's
time
to
be
a
little
bit
more
Innovative
with
how
we
let
developers
approach
this
space
as
it
pertains
to
affordable
housing
and
I.
Think
that
one
of
the
confines
that
we
don't
discuss
enough
is
we
allowed
a
developer,
whoever
it
is,
who
has
the
benefit
of
the
historical
benefit
of
owning
multiple
properties
in
Arlington.
H
A
A
Think
about
not
just
bonus
density,
not
just
this
parlay
right.
It's
really
thinking
about
what
more
can
we
be
asking
of
people
who
are
in
the
position,
Financial
positions
to
be
able
to
understand
and
do
because
it's
right,
it's
right
right
and
I
I,
don't
know
you
know,
that's
changing
the
hearts
and
minds
of
people,
but
we
have
good
developers
here
in
Arlington,
I
think
that
they
would
I'm
on
board
if
they
felt
that
pressure
from
us
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
more.
H
I
Good
yeah,
you
know,
time
and
time
again
we
get
that
comes
in
with
bonus
densities,
supposedly
so
that
we
could
get
one
or
two
more
units
and
then
again
the
whole
thing
is
market
rate.
So
it's
unaffordable
foremost
to
begin
with,
and
I
would
hate
to
see
us
in
Langston
Boulevard
do
what
we've
done
accidentally
or,
however,
down
on
Columbia,
like
where
we
have
let
a
lot
of
folks
who
you
know
added
great
diversity
and
wonderfulness
down
there,
and
they
just
couldn't
afford
it,
but.
A
H
I
H
A
G
And
then
Aaron
just
a
quick
question.
Could
you
remind
me
if
you
guys
have
any
information
about
what
a
little
less
senior
affordable
housing
along
the.
M
Plane?
Yes,
so
we
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
when
we
talk
about
the
public
facilities
policy,
but
no
it
related
to
housing.
We
do
mention
that,
obviously,
public
sites
sites
that
are
currently
owned
by
the
county
are
sites
that
are
that
have
the
opportunity
to
introduce
whether
it's
senior
or
just
general,
affordable
housing.
So
I
do
mention
that
okay.
N
A
C
Gear
in
his
one
one
thing:
can
we
explore
something
like
mortgages
that
give
better
lower
rates,
because
you
don't
need
a
car
because
you're,
let's
say
these
false
terms:
you're
in
North
Highlands
those
people
don't
have
to
have
a
card.
That's
that
frees
up
money
pay
for
so
you
don't
have
so
the
30
percent.
Maybe
they
can
go
to
35
or
40
because
they
don't
have
a
car
and
they
can
get
a
subsidized
rate
and
that's
something
that
I'm
not
sure
it's
really
been
explored
properly.
C
Being,
if
you
don't
understand
people
like
that,
but
nonetheless
we're
a
big
County
for
these
sort
of
things.
Maybe
that's
something
we
could
start
exploring
all
those.
You
know
those
any
prayer
here
in
metro
area
might
have
some.
I
E
I
The
affordable
residence
condos
that
are
you
know
in
the
target
areas
here
when
they
renovate
what
what
measure
is
in
place
so
that
the
poor
people
who
are
currently
there-
and
you
know
because
renovation
costs
a
lot
of
money
right.
If
people
come
in
and
start
throwing
money
around,
they
expect
big
return.
H
C
F
Quick,
so
in
the
the
recommended,
Love,
Changes
and
I
think
this
maybe
speaks
to
some
of
the
preservation
conversation
so
just
note
about
maintaining
the
low
medium
residential
designation
in
certain
locations
thing,
but
it
from
what
it
sounds
like
is
with
where
we
already
have
this
low
medium
housing.
F
We
sort
of
want
to
just
maintain
it
and
I
think.
Maybe
it
speaks
to
the
conversation
we're
having
before
about
like
incentives,
and
you
have
to
think
it'll
be
a
pipe
three
and
a
half
years
ago,
when
we
were
looking
to
maybe
change
the
form-based
code,
where
there
was
a
concern
of
if
we
allow
more
density,
we're
going
to
maybe
incentivize
the
current
owner.
To
say
great,
it's
time
to
you
know,
Cash
Out
is
is
that
is.
F
M
M
You
can
see
by
just
the
shape
of
those
those
neighborhood
areas
right.
The
lots
are
irregular,
a
good
portion
of
the
corridor,
at
least
all
of
area,
two
and
part
of
area,
three,
the
lots
of
very
shallow-
and
there
are
a
million
of
them
little
small
Lots.
So
it
would
require
consolidation,
so
that
map
is
actually
pretty
helpful,
because
this
just
shows
the
marks
at
least
how
it
looked
along
the
border
it's
different
today.
M
There
are
actually
more
marks
today
than
there
were
when
we
did
this
math
in
which
was
the
data
for
2017.,
but
generally
that's
where
they
are.
The
areas
that
you
see
in
purple
and
in
green
one
to
sixty
percent
of
the
other
is
80
and
what
it
shows
is
that,
where
they
currently
are
are
in
buildings
that
some
of
them
have
renovated
recently,
some
of
them
have
very
large
parking
lots
and
some
of
them
don't
some
of
them
are
very
small,
little
parcels,
and
so
what
we're?
M
When
we
looked
at
each
one
of
these
sites,
when
we
say
we
looked
at
each
one
of
these
sites,
we
tested
to
see
what
could
fit
without
moving
the
building
and
then
in
some
cases
where
the
lots
are
only
you
know,
they're
half
an
acre.
M
It
just
made
more
sense
to
say
that
just
and
it's
built
it's
rebuilt
into
a
building
that
is
maybe
three
or
four
times
the
the
height.
That's
currently
there.
In
the
case
of
some
of
the
non-profit
sites,
like
apple,
we
know,
owns
a
couple
of
properties
along
the
border.
One
is
like
a
Gardens
in
area
three,
which
is
a
sizable
site.
It's
over
an
acre
that
could
accommodate
significantly
more
units
there.
M
You
know
if
it
get
about
if
it
got
completely
redeveloped
like
there
is
no
opportunity
on
that
site
to
inbuild
simply
because
of
the
way
that
the
site
is
is
currently
configured,
but
then
you
have
the
property
on
the
East
End,
basically
in
in
area
five
West
North
Highlands,
Calvert
Manor,
that
site
is
a
postage
size
type
of
site,
and
so,
when
we
looked
at
the
you
know
opportunities
for
for
that
site.
We
said:
well,
that's
that's
a
historic
resource.
It's
essential!
We
want
to
preserve
it
for
that
to
the
number
of
calves.
M
Very
small
and
it
would
require
expanding
out
so
really
just
to
answer
your
question,
I
mean
I,
think
I
think
we
have
to
be
open
to
all
possibilities,
whether
it's
through
infill
renovation.
You
know,
as
you
said,
keeping
some
of
the
abilities
that
are
there
if
they're,
efficient
or
making
them
more
efficient.
F
Awesome
can
I
ask
one
more
question
somewhat
related.
Maybe
so
we
have
this
housing
Conservation
District,
that
the
county
implemented
several
years
back
and
then
the
plan
here
would
basically
swap
that
out
for
this
Vision.
Can
you
sort
of
just
walk
us
through
sort
of
in
Practical
terms?
What
that
what
that
looks
like.
M
Sure
so
I
don't
think
on
this
map.
We
show
where
the
hcd.
H
M
Are
but
we
can
certainly
show
that
is.
M
Oh,
so,
okay,
so
we
can
maybe
go
a
little
forward,
but
that
is
under
implementation
at
the
end
of
the
slides
right,
yeah,
okay,
so.
M
A
Okay,
it
is
8
30,
let's
move
on
to
the
next
bullet.
By
the
way
we
are
planning
for
a
second
meeting,
and
so,
if
some
other
questions
come
up,
we
will
try
to
make
time
for
that
as
well.
During
that
meeting,
how.
M
So
the
policies
on
on
again
public
facilities
and
schools
really
focus
on
adapting
for
future
needs
by
one
monitoring
the
growth.
You
know
that
that
will
happen
along
the
corridor
while
examining
county-wide
needs
and
opportunities,
in
other
words,
not
just
focusing
on
what
lengths
of
all
of
our
needs
or
can
provide
we're
looking
at
the
county
as
a
whole
to
be
able
to
support
the
needs
and
and
secondly,
to
maintain
flexibility
over
time
to
adapt
to
that
growth
and
meeting
those
needs
through
either.
M
You
know,
mostly
through
future
capital
and
long-range
public
facility
planning
processes.
The
one
way
that
the
corridor
and
the
county
can
adapt
to
growth
is
by
co-locating.
Other
public
facility
needs
on
existing
public
sites
along
the
border
and
consolidating
recreational
facilities
and
activities
wherever
that's
possible.
M
So
really,
looking
you
know,
Partnerships
with
with
the
private
sector
in
some
way
to
provide
some
of
those
uses
directly
on
those
properties
and
then
in
terms
of
adapting
for
future
School
needs
with
the
plan
recommends,
is,
is
renovating
existing
APS
facilities,
the
buildings
on
those
sites
or
building
new
facilities
on
those
APS
sites,
and
then,
lastly,
the
plan
recommends
integrating
public
facilities
and
public
spaces
with
Neighborhood
Activity
hubs
where
development
is
is
being
proposed
to
be
concentrated
so
that
it
increases
that
access
to
those
services
for
that
population
and
surrounding
areas.
F
There's
a
note
about
consolidating
community
centers
that
be
here:
can
you
just
walk
through
that
like?
Why
is
that
necessarily
a
good
idea.
M
Yeah
so,
as
you
know,
the
the
least,
the
least
site
is
no
longer
a
community
center,
and
so
in
the
future.
I
think
one
of
the
things
I'm
trying
to
recognizes
is
that
there
will
always
be
a
need
for
a
community
center
on
Langston
Boulevard
and
it
it
ever
got
moved
or
it
would
have
to
come
back.
Basically,
it
needs
it
needs
to
to
occur
along
the
corridor,
and
all
we're
saying
is
that
there
may
be
possibilities
to
consolidate
uses
wherever
possible.
M
Public
uses
different
types
of
public
uses
until
you
know
the
various
sites
that
we
currently
have
along
the
border,
and
so
all
it's
saying
is
that,
rather
than
having
two
community
centers,
which
is
what
we
had
at
some
point,
is
maybe
consolidating
it
into
one
site
that
it's
larger.
It
provides
more
more.
H
G
Just
to
clarify
is
that
separate
from
the
Lee
Arts
Center.
M
Right
so
the
Lee
Arts
Center
is
in
the
same
building
where
the
community
center
used
to
used
to
exist.
So
now
it's
just
the
Arts
Center,
that's
operating
out
of
that
facility.
Okay,.
G
Just
and
then
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
community
desire
for
there
to
remain
a
green
space.
What.
P
M
M
It's
a
really
at
a
very
high
level
kind
of
explain
the
types
of
uses
that
could
work
together
and
that's
why
we
mentioned
that
on
a
lease
Center
site,
for
example,
there
could
be
an
opportunity
for
senior
housing
simply
because
of
the
program
that's
already
in
place,
and
it
just
seemed
to
to
work
well,
but
it
could
be
any
kind
of
housing,
affordable,
housing
and
I.
Think
the
back
to
your
point
about
the
open
space.
M
We
were
just
indicating
sort
of
through
those
through
those
diagrams
that
we
would
still
want
to
retain
public
space
on
that
side,
as
well
as
on
the
Langston
Brown
Community
Center
site.
So
in
in
no
way
are
we
suggesting
that
it
would
be
reduced
in
size
or
we
don't
know
at
this
point
what
it
could
look
like
in
the
future
or
what
the
actual
need
might
be
for
that
type
of
public
space,
but
we're
certainly
recognizing
that
something
that
needs
to
stay.
Yeah.
K
D
It
is,
or
so
we
don't
know
him
so
I
think
with
the
plans
trying
to
get
at
is
that
we
need
to
continue
to
have
public
land
on
the
corridor
we
have
public
uses.
So
I
think
this
plan
is
also
trying
to
say.
We
also
need
to
be
flexible
and
we
don't
know
fully
how
those
sites
are
going
to
be
used.
Community
Center
uses
in
general,
they
are
needed
and
can
be
occurring
on
those
site,
schools
and
open
space
and
the
potential
for
co-location
of
other
uses
like
housing.
D
So
I
think
that
the
thought
is
that
if
the
county
were
to
embark
on
what
should
we
be
doing
at
those
sites,
let's
at
least
initially
look
at
both
sites
together
and
think
about.
You
know
what
site,
what
uses
could
go
on
each
site
in
the
pros
and
cons
or
constraints
opportunities,
and
then
that
can
help
us
move
forward
to
the
next
decision
making
frame.
So
at
this
point,
we're
not
locking
anything
in
on
these
particular
other
than
just
saying.
We
need
to
continue
as
the
community
grows.
O
G
I
think
you
know
it's
great,
that
you
guys
are
taking
the
time
to
really
think
it
through
I
I
do
want
to
mention
that
it
does
could
create
a
concert
consternation
with
the
current
residents,
because
you
know
uncertainty
makes
everyone
a
little
bit
nervous.
So
yeah
I
think
you
know
having
a
more
solidified,
but
as
soon
as
we
can
get
that
that.
A
Okay,
building
Hayden,
actually
historical-
you
want
to
do
that.
You
want
to
jump.
You
wanted
to
go
to
that,
because
the
other
one
will
probably
be
a
lot
more
I.
Think
so.
M
Yeah
yeah,
okay,
so
I'm.
Sorry,
it's
just
a
few
slides
forward
a
few
because
there's
all
the
maps
and
the
design
guidelines
of
sorry
Oliver.
D
Animation
Natasha,
while
you're
doing
that
to
point
out
that
the
public
spaces
master
plan
that
there
is
a
recommendation
in
that
piece
of
the
comprehensive
plan
to
consolidate
Recreation
facilities
and
activities
so
that
we
have
them
distributed
around
the
county,
but
they're
Consolidated
in
the
viewer
and
larger
facilities.
So
we're
trying
to
be
in
alignment
with
that.
So
thank
you.
Ryan,
oh
another
one.
M
We
are
always
yes,
so
the
policies
for
historic
and
cultural
resources
are
really
focused
on
honoring
the
significant
resources
along
the
border
by
one
increasing
public
understanding
and
appreciation.
M
M
The
plan
does
encourage
both
partial
and
full
preservation,
as
well
as
site
interpretation
of
those
resources,
and
that
and
is
encouraging
that
through
transfer
of
development
rights,
commercial
renovation
or
recruitment
assistance,
which
is
to
the
point
that
we
talked
about
earlier
with
economic
vitality,
do
bonus
density
into
historic
use.
So.
M
The
plan
recognizes
that
many
of
the
significant
resources
are
also
in
areas
where
major
improvements
are
needed
and
Redevelopment
offers
opportunity
to
meet
opportunities
to
meet
other
important
county-wide
plan
goals,
and
so
it
will
be
important
to
keep
that
in
mind
as
we
consider
what
the
ultimate
designation
of
a
particular
resource
should
be.
The
fact
that
we
need
to
balance
those
county-wide
needs
and
the
plan
goals,
along
with
the
recommendations.
H
A
Specifically
in
certain
spaces,
but
just
as
a
bigger
picture
item
I
know
that
for
planning
we
got
into
a
big
conversation
with
Joyce
Motors,
and
you
know
historical,
cultural
resources
and
I
know
that
that
plan
is
also
I.
Just
think
that
there's
going
to
need
that
we
need
to
have
a
bigger
conversation
about
how
that
works.
Here
too,
I
know
that
some
Commissioners
were
feeling
unhappy
with
the
way
that
went
down
in
terms
of
its
historic,
designation
and
and
whether
it
was
properly
preserved
or
not.
N
C
I
want
to
make
sure
that
what
comes
out
of
that
is
reflected
in
this,
especially
in
the
sense
of
full
and
partial
preservation,
because
I
want
to
be
careful
that
we're
not
going
to
be
blocking
an
update
of
property
and
losing
housing,
because
something
may
have
been
in
a
too
restricted
category.
So
I
think
that
we
have
to
be
really
careful
and
take
a
look
at
what
we're
designating
here
in
the
various
categories.
H
D
Even
with
the
identification
notice
of
courses
we
still
have,
that
is
an
option
in
terms
of
preservation,
along
with
you
know,
change
being
an
option.
Yeah.
A
Any
questions
or
clarifying
points
before
we
move
on
to
the
biggest
probably
topic,
Building
height
and
form.
M
During
a
lot
here
to
come
all
right,
thanks,
Kelly
all
right,
so
the
policies
on
building
form,
as
you
can
see
here,
focus
on
achieving
projects
that
sensitive
building
design.
The
plan,
which
you've
probably
seen,
includes
recommendations
for
transforming
the
poor
area
into
a
more
walkable
Compact
and.
M
System
of
blocks
and
neighborhoods,
it
focuses
the
tallest
building
Heights
at
Key
activity
hubs
at
intersections
that
are
important
along
the
corridor
within
walking
distance
of
the
metro
and
bus
stops.
It
establishes
maximum
Podium
Heights,
as
well
as
minimum
setbacks
and
step
backs
and
desired
height
transitions
each
and
everyone's
neighborhood
areas.
It
also
sets
parameters
for
how
new
buildings
should
be
oriented
on
the
site
to
create
wider
streetscapes,
locating
parking
either
below
grade
or
above
grade,
but
behind
Street
running
buildings.
M
M
So
you
may
recall
that
the
PCP
last
year
included
an
analysis
of
different
sort
of
densities
and
building
Heights
that
were
based
on
the
scenarios
in
in
Fall
of
2021,
which
had
both
tolerant
and
lower
Heights,
so
that
analysis
was
was
really
created
to
understand
the
impacts
of
new
development
and
opportunities
for
achieving
the
goals
along
the
border.
So
last
summer
we
launched
an
online
form
to
gather
feedback
on
the
preliminary
concept
plan.
M
We
got
over
500
people,
respond
to
that
plus
numerous
letters
that
we
received
from
various
organizations,
including
the
Langston
Boulevard
Alliance,
the
NAACP,
the
chamber,
housing,
Advocates
and
various
commissions
and
advisory
boards,
and
what
the
community
feedback
suggested
was
two
things
one
is
Langston.
Boulevard
is
critical
and
I
know
we
talked
about
it
just
a
few
minutes
ago.
M
It's
critical
to
meeting
many
of
the
county
policies,
including
the
affordable
housing
master
plan,
Vision
zero
in
carbon
neutrality,
and
the
second
thing
that
the
feedback
suggested
is
that
the
PCP
was
just
not
being
bullied.
It
wasn't
getting.
Just
you
know
to
to
achieving
those
goals.
M
More
than
half
of
the
of
the
respondents
did
support
having
additional
incentives
for
private
investment,
an
additional
height,
and
so
the
county
was
urged
to
provide
incentives
from
private
development
and
was
asked
to
increase
opportunities
for
providing
additional
housing
Supply
along
the
border,
affordable
housing
units,
additional
Open,
Spaces,
hands,
Transit
and
sustainable
development.
So
after
completing
that
sort
of
community
engagement
process,
we.
H
M
For
several
weeks
with
the
LBA
Executives,
as
well
as
the
community
reform
chair
and
vice
chair
board
here,
to
discuss,
you
know
where
additional
opportunities
are.
You
know
for
considering
additional
Heights
along
the
border
So,
based
on
those
conversations
and
and
really
our
assessment
of
the
corridor
over.
Why,
overall,
particularly
to
make
sure
that
we
were
being
consistent
in
our
approach
that
we
weren't
just
adding
height
arbitrarily,
but
rather
strategically
and
in
places
where
it
makes
sense
and,
like
we've
said
before
in
areas
you.
P
M
Your
activity,
hubs
in
Metro
areas,
accessible,
Transit
and,
more
importantly,
on
Parcels,
with
sufficient
topography
and
depth
to
be
able
to
accommodate
adequate
height
transitions,
particularly
where
they're
adjacent
to
to
low
density,
residential
edges.
So
the
ideas
and
the
concepts
that
we
haven't
presented
in
the
PCP
were
refined
into
the
draft
plan
that
you
see
now,
and
these
are
the
maps
that
came
out
of
that
which
proposes
again
additional
public
spaces
and
pedestrian
and
bicycle
connections
and
taller
Heights.
M
So
if
we
go
back
to
the
area,
two
map
I'll
show
you
exactly
what
changed.
So
this
is
area
two.
You
can
click
Kelly,
so
the
the
spot
that
changed.
L
M
All
right
so
in
area
two,
what
changed
from
the
PCP
is:
we've
added
additional
height
at
the
George
Mason
intersection.
It
went
basically
five
stories
to
up
to
six
stories
at
that
intersection.
The.
M
The
area
that
changed
was
between
Lee
Road
and
Woodstock,
just
south
of
Langston
Boulevard,
and
then
in
area
five
West,
which
is
North
Highlands.
We
really
focus
the
additional
height
along
I-66
and
in
sort
of
that
area
between
the
parts
of
the
long
line,
66
and
Langston,
and
then,
lastly,
an
area
find
East,
which
is
also
North
Highlands.
M
M
So
with
that,
the
plan
also
includes
a
number
of
design
guidelines
for
the
built
environment,
which
cover
a
lot
of
the
points
that
you
see
there
on
the
screen.
There's
a
few
images
on
the
next
slide
that
we
can
refer
to
that
are
related
to
the
high
transitions
and
then
the
next
one
you
know
to
where,
where
you
locate
parking
and
loading
and
service
service
areas.
So
we
can
refer
to
that
if
you
know,
as
as
the
questions
come
in.
G
Clarifying
question
for
sorry
for
area
two
yeah:
you
said
it
was
increased
to
six
stories
up
to
seven
stories.
Is
there
a
distinction?
Yeah.
M
So
at
the
node,
with
the
primary
intersection,
which
is
Harrison
and
Langston
Boulevard,
that's
where
the
dark
pink
is
okay,
that
area
we
always
proposed
to
have
up
to
seven
stories
and-
and
that
was
for
the
most
part,
the
community
supported
it
mainly
because
there's
death
there
there's
enough
room
to
transition
the
heights
in
at
the
George
Mason
intersection.
It's
only
six,
because
the
parcels
were
actually
much
shallower.
H
A
M
E
C
C
Yeah
this
is
appropriate
time
to
be
raising
setbacks,
that
sort
of
thing
sure.
Okay,
as
mentioned,
we
have
a
lot
of
seven
story
and
Below
along
the
card.
There's
only
a
few
places
where
it
exists,
I
read
it
right:
we
are
looking
at
setbacks
that
would
start
and
setbacks
at
least
35
feet.
C
C
Wants
that,
but
it's
not
required,
so
you
could
have
just
going
straight
up
seven
stories
along
most
of
the
card,
even
though
I
think
under
other
sector
plans,
setbacks
can
start
or
do
start
35
feet
also
seems
really
wide
that,
given
how
shallow
a
lot
of
our
personals
are,
that's
going
to
mean
effectively
you're
not
going
to
want
to
build
above
the
seventh
floor
to
be
a
single
bank
because
for
residential
It
Means
A
Single
Barrel
building.
C
So
is
this
something
we
should
be
really
looking
at
differently
or
are
these
setbacks
and
the
heightened
signal
and
something
that
would
be
flexible,
that
it
could
be
required
that
when
it
gets
a
site
plan
that
no,
you
really
could
really
have
to
make
it
lower?
But
you
don't
have
to
go
with
35
back.
You
could
start
at
the
second
floor,
but
it's
okay
to
go
up
to
the
full
seven,
but
only
have
a
setback
of
10
feet
or
five
feet.
M
So
let
me
start
Yeah
by
cluttering.
One
thing:
there
are
setbacks.
Yes,
yes,
there
are
setbacks
that
are
which
is
which
are
different
from
step
back.
So
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
there's
there
are
two
distinct
things
and
I
went
back
to
the
report
and
looked
at
it
and
realized
that
you
know
why
there
may
be
some
confusion,
but
there
are
setbacks
that
have
been
recommended
and
they're
based
on
streets
on
Street
outages.
H
M
Setbacks
so
that
Podium
level
of
the
building
the
podium
portion
of
the
building
does
have
to
conform
to
those
setbacks
and
in
some
cases
it's
10
feet.
In
other
cases,
it's
more.
It
just
depends
on
the
width
of
the
right-of-way
and
and
what
we're
trying
to
accommodate
there,
especially
if
we
have
bike
facilities
and
so
on.
M
But
then
the
step
backs
are
different
and
I
was
looking
at
again
at
the
language
and
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
really
clarify
or
make
some
tweaks
to
make
sure
that
it's
crystal
clear.
But
the
setbacks
were
really
intended
only
for
for
for
tall
buildings
along
Langston
Boulevard
early.
H
M
In
area
three,
where
we
can
look
at
the
map
right
primarily
there,
as
you
can
see
where
we're
proposing
the
height,
is
on
the
south
side
of
the
road,
so
any
tall
buildings
could
actually
Loom
over
they're,
pretty
close
to
the
low
density
residential
on
the
North
side.
They're,
not
the
right.
The
right
of
way
is
also
quite
narrow,
so
the
buildings,
if
there,
if
that
portion
of
the
building
is
instead
back
sufficiently,
it
might
pass
Shadows
onto
that
area.
M
So
the
purpose
of
the
step
back
again
is
is
for
the
portion
of
the
building
beyond
the
seven
stories,
and
it's
really
to
try
to
control
that
space
within
the
right-of-way.
Now
that
doesn't
mean
that
the
building
has
to
be
designed
in
a
wedding
cake
Style.
M
We
are
effectively
trying
to
create
this
sort
of
defined
streetscape.
That
is,
that
is
at
most
seven
stories.
The
parcels
here
are
pretty
deep
on
the
south
side
and
so
there's
opportunities
for
the
tower
portion
of
the
building
to
be
reoriented
in
a
way
that
it's
away
35
feet
away
from
the
bar.
That
is
parallel
to
Langston
Boulevard.
M
C
I
think
you
answered
a
lot
of
it.
Okay,
it's
just
I
wanted
to
be
careful
that
we're.
It
is
just
seven
stories
that
it
isn't
going
to
be
just
a
show
ball
going
on.
M
G
D
Yes,
they
could
build
straight
up
to
seven
stories
and
so
I
think.
The
the
premise
here
is
when
we
have
some
step
backs
called
for.
Maybe
in
other
corridors
is
when
we
have
College
buildings
Towers.
We
want
that
to
be
stepped
back
so
that
you
still
create
the
base,
and
in
this
case
we
are
looking
at
the
base
of.
M
M
C
H
H
M
M
The
the
sort
of
the
10-story
portion
of
the
buildings
come
right
up
to
the
street
line,
there's
no
we're
not
showing
a
sort
of
a
zone
that
is
indicating
some
kind
of
step
back,
but
we
do
for
the
portion
that
I
just
mentioned.
You
know
west
of
between
believe
in
and
Woodstock,
where
we're
being
intentional
there.
So
I
just
think
we
have
to
clean
up
the
language
so
that
it's
Crystal
Clear.
M
What
matches?
What
would
the
plan
but
I,
but
in
most
cases
we're
trying
to
create
the
space
of
five
stories
that
steps
back
beyond
that
it,
wherever
you're
near
low
density
residential
edges,
but
if
you're
inside
the
sort
of
the
core
area
and
it's
an
area
that
gets
completely
redeveloped,
there's
no
low
density
residential
and
you
could
potentially
come
to
the
bill
to
line.
U
Thanks
Madam,
chair
I
have
a
question
about
the
seven
stories
we
sometimes
run
into
this
on
PC,
where
developers
kind
of
build
to
six
stories,
because
that's
the
max
they
can
do
for
stick
build
and
then,
above
that
they,
you
know
they
need
a
different
form
of
construction.
So
are
we?
Are
we
making
this
easy
enough
to
get
the
seven
stories
where
we
want
them.
K
We
certainly
didn't
think
about
this,
but
the
way
that
the
instruction
code
Works
some
of
these
thresholds
and
so
that
up
to
seven
story
limit
is,
is
generally
the
amount
you
can
build
if
up
to
you
can
do
five
stories
of
stick
Built
construction
over
top
of
two
stories
of
concrete.
So
that's
why
that
seven
stories
ends
up
being
where
it
is.
It
also
works
well
with
the
way
the
building
code
measures
that
type
of
construction.
K
So
there
were
several
different
discussions
that
happened
to
set
that
seven
story,
Magic
limit
construction
type
being
one
of
them,
the
scale
of
development
being
another
adjacent
to
various
types
of
construction
or
existing
neighborhoods.
It's
also
important
to
note
that
that
seven
stories
along
Langston
Boulevard
in
many
cases,
the
right-of-way
for
Langston
Boulevard,
plus
those
setbacks.
Seven
stories
adjacent
to
that
is-
is
quite
a
nice
proportion,
similar
height
to
what
the
width
of
the
right
away
plus
setbacks,
would
be,
so
it
wouldn't
have
that
a
canyon
like.
K
I
M
So
the
maps
that
we've
included
in
the
draft
plan
are
intent
is
for
that
to
be
the
limit,
but
obviously,
as
site
plan
projects
come
in.
The
County
Board
does
have
the
discretion
an
applicant
come
in
and
request
something
that's
different
from
what
the
plan
is
proposing,
even
higher.
That
can
always
happen,
and
it's
ultimately
up
to
the
County
Board.
M
I
They're,
just
so
also
to
what
I'm
understanding,
depending
on
the
location,
if
there
is
a
residential
neighborhood
immediately,
your
neighbors
immediately
budding
the
setbacks
and
setbacks
will
be
adjusted.
So
it's
not
in
general,
it's
it's
just
not
depending
on
where
it's
not
uniform.
All
the
way
down
exactly
right.
H
I
Wait
a
minute
funny
thing
over
there.
That
would
be
I
have
to
think
about.
That
seems
like
and
the
reason
that
I'm
saying
that
is
in
the
canyons,
where
we
have
done
the
15
stories
or
the
20
some
stories,
we've,
let
them
go
higher
and
higher
and
higher
we're
still
at
the
end
of
the
day,
are
short
of
all
the
goals
to
be
trying
to
achieve.
K
Closest
to
I-66,
where
you
don't
have
the
imposing
nature
of
those
buildings.
C
M
E
M
I
I
Haven't
seen
that
much
in
terms
of
like
the
buildings
I
think,
certainly
that
look
into
that.
I
U
I
I
Just
in
this
quiet
I
mean
climate,
it's
not
going
to
be
comfortable
at
all,
but
you
know
really
thinking
in
terms
of
you
know
kind
of
the
density
going
up
and
and
giving
that
an
opportunity
to
build
addition
or
provide
additional
space
for
for
open
space
and
trees,
and
it's
also
an
opportunity,
possibly
to
you
know,
get
enough
space
to
really
put
a
good
number
of
trees.
That
border,
or
especially
the
lower
residential
areas.
So
you
know,
is
this
kind
of
part
of
what
we're
looking
at
is
actually
defining.
H
A
Everything
was
fine
when
I
was
in
control,
any
other
questions
on
building
high
or
thoughts
on
Building
height
and
form.
Yes,.
I
I
actually
have
another,
which
actually
is
it's
getting
into
the
urban
blend
is
I
mean
there's
talk
about
some
of
the
green
infrastructure
of
trees
and
green
roasts
and
green
free
other
things,
but
other
things
there's
also
you
know
kind
of
looking
at
the
designers
to
design
buildings
with
reflective
materials
and
other
you
know,
and
what
the
science
and
form
is
in
terms
of
you
know
doing
that
assessment
of
what
the
building
department
is
going
to
do
in
terms
of
designing
in
ways
that
actually
mitigate
that
you
know
kind
of
how
do
you
get
that
built
in?
I
H
H
C
Yeah,
when
we
talk
about
certain
stories,
are
we
also
going
to
translate
that
into
a
maximum
number
of
feet?
High,
because
I
could
see
something
called
the
production
rebuilding
with
toilet
ceilings,
and
that
would
mean
something
way
way
taller
than
the
normal,
even
though
it's
just
seven
just
Seven
Stars.
So
you
will
have
it
translated
into
facts.
A
N
I,
do
I
just
have
to
associate
myself
with
Joan
McIntyre's
comments,
especially
the
opportunity
to
find
those
plannable
spaces
and
that
we're
going
to
have
to
create
them,
because
we
don't
have
them
there
now
so
any
opportunity
we
can
to
get
rid
of
some
of
that
impervious
and
get
rid
of
the
the
impervious
and
put
it
into
pervious
and
more
opportunities.
Given
the
you
know,
incredibly
dearth
of
tree
canopy
that
we
have
in
this
area
so
just
want
to
go
and
record
with.
M
A
D
So
we
touched
on
this
a
little
bit
earlier
with
one
of
the
auditions.
We
are
planning
to
add
a
planning
district
to
the
general
land
use
plan
map
or
the
what
we
would
call
and
refer
to
as
the
Langston
Boulevard
planning,
district
and
insertings
of
information
into
the
glove
booklet,
the
vision
goals
and
and
key
policies
with
that
planning
guidance.
We
believe
that
that
would
be
a
replacement
for
what
we
were
showing
with
the
housing
Conservation
District
for
a
number
of
areas
along
the
corridor,
and
we
would
be
referring.
D
This
plan
would
be
referred
to
for
planning
guidance
for
those
areas,
so
we
would
be
removing
the
hcd
boundaries
where
they
overlap
with
this
new
District,
but
there
are
two
areas
along
the
corridor
that
are
outside
of
our
our
area.
Here,
some
of
that
is
in
the
wholesale
Highview
Park
neighborhood,
and
then
some
of
that
is
in
area
5e.
So
those
would
remain
in
place
and
we'll
continue
to.
You
know
work
on
what
is
now
no
longer
called
housing.
Conservation
District
study,
it's
the
multi-family
reinvestment
able
to
resume
that
and
bring
that
process.
D
Expecting
to
indicate
land
use,
designation
changes
to
affect
effectuate
this
plan
and
envision
we're
discussing
still
internally
how
far
to
advance
those
amendments.
You
know
whether
those
are
proactively
on
the
County
board,
Zone
motion
or
incrementally
with
Redevelopment
applications,
so
we'll
have
some
more
information
to
share
on
those
on
that
in
probably
at
that
future
meeting
in
September.
I
D
Are
adjacent
to
sites
that
actually
did
develop
under
the
Cherrydale
revitalization
plan
and
they
have,
you
know,
really
come
into
their
mixed
use
development.
So
we
think
that,
since
that
vision
is
realized
for
again
several
Lots
adjacent
that
were
not
Consolidated,
that
we
can
remove
those
from
the
planning
district
and
that
would
enable
that
those
Property
Owners
to
have
the
option
to
consider
eho
development.
So
that's
really
just
a
follow-up
from
the
BHO
or
missing
middle
study.
D
In
terms
of
the
transportation
plan,
we
are
expecting
to
add
some
new
areas,
areas
planned
for
New
streets,
that's
how
it's
coined
in
the
MTP
map
we've
again
in
this
plan
we
are
seeking
to
expand
the
street
Grid
in
in
a
few
locations
and
even
with
some
of
the
larger
blocks,
we
are
looking
to
expand
Street
grid
so
that
we
have
greater
connectivity
of
all
types
multimodal.
D
So
one
thing
that
again,
we'll
be
doing
is
that's
shown
in
basically
a
hatch
pattern
on
the
map
in
the
MTP
map,
so
we'll
likely
be
bringing
that
forward
when
we
bring
the
global
amendments
forward.
So
and
then
lastly,
we
are
contemplating,
you
know
what
zoning
tools
would
go
hand
in
hand
with
the
the
glove
map.
Land
use
designation
changes,
but
we
are
trying
to
consider
what
existing
zoning
tools.
You
know
that
we
can
apply
here
that
offer
the
site
plan
mechanism
and,
to
the
degree
that
we
can
rely
on
existing
tools.
D
You
know
we
we
may
not
need
designing
ordinance
amendments,
but
certainly
if
we
do,
you
know
that-
maybe
perhaps
at
least
for
some
aspects
of
that
or
adapting
zoning
changes
rather
than
you
know,
instructing
a
new
section.
You
know
from
scratch.
H
D
We
don't
have
a
definitive
time
frame
for
that
and
it,
and
it
may
need
to
stagger
right
behind
plan
adoption
right
now,
we're
showing
it
in
that
short-term
category
in
the
implementation
Matrix,
which
is
really
anywhere
from
plan
adoption
out
to
three
years,
but
I,
don't
think
that
we're
going
to
be
out
out
that
far
and
we
certainly
know
of
several
property
owners
who
have
you
know
signaled
over
the
course
of
a
few
years
that
they
have
an
interest
in
you
know,
moving
forward
I
think
some
of
those
are
going
to
be
the
larger
sites
where
we
indicate
you
know
greater
levels
of
change
and
again
through
the
site
plan
option.
D
So
I
think
that
that's
where
we
want
to
focus
our
our
energy.
If
there
is
any
adjustments
to
zoning
it
would
be
in
in
that
category.
But
I
do
think
that
we've
been
pretty
clear
along
the
way
that
in
some
areas
where
the
sites
are,
you
know
just
limited
in
terms
of
their
bite
size,
depth
from
Langston
Boulevard.
D
And
you
know
the
not
only
is
the
site
constraint,
but
what
the
plan
is
offering
is
more
limiting
meaning
we're
up
to
five
or
six
stories
and
that's
not
as
much
of
an
increase
above
what
they
can
do
by
right.
We're
continuing
to
look
at
whether
the
site
plan
tool
is
is
the
right
tool
to
apply
there.
So
it
may
very
well
be
that
the
site
plan
is
still
the
option
for.
H
D
D
Like
a
form-based
code,
that
is
highly
prescriptive.
You
know
with
hundreds
of
regulations
or
any
development
site,
it
is
a
zoning
tool
that
does
have
a
greater
level
of
standards
in
it
than
what
we
see
under
the
site
plan
zoning
District.
So
if
we
need,
if
we
choose
to
use
that
tool,
we
may
need
a
little
bit
more
time
to
develop
what
those
standards
are
obviously
pulling
as
much
as
we
can
and
the
design
guidelines.
D
But
we
also
think
that
those
probably
are
not
the
sites
that
are
really
right
for
change
right
away.
So
again,
if
there's
any
phasing
of
the
zoning
implementation,
we
may
focus
on
what
we
can
do
for
site
land
and
then,
if
there's
anything
else,
to
do
on
more
for
these
constrained
sites
that
that
may
have
to.
D
C
Junior
Square,
for
example,
has
I
think
cross
hatching
in
one
chunk
where
it
doesn't
describe
where
the
right
to
play
go,
but
they
should
be
there
when
side
plans
are
done,
they'd
be
having
a
similar
approach,
for
example,
violence
where
we're
recommending
quite
a
number
of
additional
rights
of
way,
but
there's
real
questions
about
where
that
should
go
and
what
would
be
best?
Would
we
use
that
approach
and
say
there?
There
should
be
more
rights
of
way
through
here
that
will
be
determined
by
site
rather
than
putting
specific
lines
on
the
map.
D
Correct
that
that's
at
least
what
we're
talking
about
with
our
our
colleagues
in
Des
that
we
have
the
plan
and
the
plan
speaks
to
conceptual
locations
for
where
those
new
connections
would
go
and
I
think
that
we
want
to
solidify
that
with
you
know,
once
we
know
what
the
application
is,
what
site
is
involved
in
the
configuration
and
the
engineering
of
it,
so
the
MTP
would
likely
be
you
know
with
that
crosshatch
meaning
it's
in
the
legend.
That's
saying
this
is
an
area
that
we
have
planned.
Street
expansion.
A
O
A
More
but
you
have
to
email
it.
Eric
and
Nia
you'll
have
to
email
your
questions
as
well,
because
we
are
you're,
fine,
okay,
we
are
going
to
move
on
to
public
comment
right
now.
Everybody
gets
two
minutes,
we'll
put
the
clock
up.
A
I
don't
mean
to
be
rude
when
we
hit
the
end
of
the
timer,
but
at
that
point
you'll
have
to
stop
speaking
okay,
so
we
are
going
to
start
with
our
virtual
speakers.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
move
on
sure
Point.
R
Hi
guys,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
no
thanks
for
having
me
no
very
exciting
and
I
I'm.
R
Speaking
as
the
president
of
the
north
Thailand
civic
association,
we
have
a
very
diverse
neighborhood
nestled
within
area
five,
as
I'm
sure
staff
knows
us
very
well
now,
that's
one
of
our
biggest
strengths
is
the
type
of
diversity
of
different
different
types
of
homes
and
apartment
buildings
and
condos
and
townhouses
that
we
that
we
have
and
I
think
overall
the
plan
the
plan
helps,
helps
kind
of
energize
some
of
these
areas
and
we
see
a
lot
of
opportunities
and
and
what
this
could
bring.
We
also
have
a
diverse
group
of
individuals.
R
Some
of
them
are
a
little
bit
concerned
with
adding
a
lot
of
density,
and
some
of
them
supported
more
more
than
than
others.
R
I
think
a
couple
other
groups
might
be
here
tonight
that
also
are
prepared
to
speak.
I
think
is
a
reminder
for
everybody
in
our
community
or
others.
This
is
a
lprc,
this
long-range
planning
committee
meeting.
These
are
supposed
to
be
high
level,
so
I
don't
think
we
need
to
get
too
far
into
the
weeds
with
our
diverse
feedback.
One
common
consensus
that
we
always
tend
to
hear
is
people
like
to
support
those
common
sense
elements
like
better
pedestrian
safety,
better
intersections
bicycle
and
traffic
safety.
R
We
have
one
of
the
highest
speed
bike
trails,
probably
maybe
in
America
it's
it's
pretty
daggone
fast.
If
you,
if
you
go
down,
you
know
on
the
Eastern
side
of
area,
five
and
I
think
I
think
that's
that's
one
thing
that
I
think
we
need
to
look
through
as
we
as
we
get
into
this
Master
planning
study
in
the
final
stage
is:
is
this
a
50-year
or
a
25-year
study
that
was
one
question?
R
I
had
I
also
had
a
technical
question
about
tdrs,
not
too
long
didn't
read,
but
the
TDR
process?
What
what
could
that
mean.
A
We
will
make
sure
they
get
answered.
John
ovenberger.
J
Perfect
I
think
the
the
green
Main
Street
is
disingenuous
for
the
plan.
This
is
a
Statewide
arterial
and
it
covers
it.
Moves
traffic
throughout
Northern
Virginia,
it's
one
of
the
only
East-West
truck
routes
in
Arlington
County,
so
reducing
this
to
two
lanes
will
have
adverse
impact
on
safety.
J
As
talking
to
staff
and
reading
the
report,
there's
been
no
safety
analysis
of
the
overall
impact
of
going
to
two
lanes
versus
three
lanes,
so
any
positive
safety
implications
will
be
far
outweighed
with,
with
going
to
two
lanes
versus
stand
with
three
there's
severe
congestion
projected
and
the
safety
in
the
traffic
analysis,
the
staff
did
there's
no
mention
of
the
severe
congestion
in
the
report
that
was
released.
In
fact,
there's
substantial
problems
with
the
analysis
that
was
done
and
the
assumptions
they
assume
50
of
all
trips
along
Langston
Boulevard
would
use
Transit.
J
That's
not
true.
That's
not
applicable
and
I
also
disagree
with
not
identifying
the
parking
needs
for
the
density.
That's
proposed
north
of
of
Langston
Boulevard
in
area
five,
based
on
the
hype
that
you've
identified
in
the
parking
that's
needed
under
current
zoning.
You
can
determine
how
short
a
parking
you
are.
It
is
going
to
be
a
chaos.
It's
not
going
to
be
enough
parking.
There
should
only
be
four
or
five
stories
on
Langston
Boulevard,
North
and
area
five
and
back
to
three
or
four
stories:
maximum
on
the
south
side
of
Langston
Boulevard.
J
T
Thank
you.
This
is
Chris
Jones
I
just
wanted
to
comment
on
the
retail
plan.
I
I,
actually,
one
of
the
owners
of
the
line,
Village
shopping
center
and
any
Vision
we
have
for
the
future
would
include
a
lot
of
retail
but
I.
Think
applying
retail
to
a
lot
of
the
sites
along
the
quarter
is
misguided,
primarily
because
retail
is
changing
so
rapidly.
T
Just
anybody
who
knows
about
Amazon
knows
how
much
it's
impacted,
and
that
is
a
lot
of
the
reason
for
the
decline
of
sort
of
what
we
would
call
the
Mom
and
Pop
stores.
They've
been
the
large
format,
retailers
and
the
online
retailers.
Have
you
know:
even
Etsy
have
put
a
lot
of
them
out
of
business,
so
I
think
you
need
to
be
very
selective
in
where
you
apply
that
retail.
T
If
you
want
vibrant
retail
to
survive,
our
site
can
support
it,
but
that
some
of
these
smaller
sites,
it's
also
extremely
expensive,
to
build
mixed
use,
much
more
expensive
than
single
use
and
a
lot
of
the
smaller
projects
will
not
be
able
to
support
it
and
will
have
trouble
financing
it.
So
you
need
to
build
some
flexibility
as
you
impose
sort
of
retail
requirements
on
some
of
these
other
sites,
because
we
don't
know
where
it
will
be
in
20
years,
and
this
plan
will
probably
still
be
in
effect.
That's
all
I
had.
A
Thank
you
very
much
Ginger
well,.
E
E
With
Christmas
thing
about
the
viability
of
retail
and
commercials,
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
do
everything
that
we
can
in
the
plan,
and
that's
that
includes
parking
to
be
to
be
part
of
this
plan.
It's
a
height
for
a
raise
in
the
plan
in
different
places.
It
wasn't
just
for
school
for
housing.
It
was
also
sort
of
a
financial
viability
of
the
commercial
version
of
it.
E
A
lot
of
the
sites
on
a
quarter
are
very
quirky,
there's
going
to
be
different
combinations
foundation,
and
so,
when
we
talk
about
things,
the
Greenways
everything
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
in
the
plan
itself
and
I
know,
this
is
vast
intention.
But
the
plan
for.
H
E
O
S
S
P
A
S
H
S
S
Village,
there's
almost
nothing
that
people
in
our
community
129
Townhomes,
agree
on
it's
down:
five
East,
almost
nothing,
but
a
two-thirds
super
majority.
In
one
week
that
included
July
the
4th
put
together
signatures
for
a
variety
of
reasons
stating
unequivocally
that
they
do
not
support.
Current
Direct
I
won't
bore
you
with
the
details.
That's
available.
A
Thank
you
and
we
have
Bob
Pillsbury.
L
A
second,
basically,
everything
here
said:
we,
our
community
town
homes
in
very
close
projects,.
L
One
house
is
40
feet
from
their
building
to
the
current
building,
which
is
not
his
close
to
the
plot
line
and
by
the
draft
plan.
L
So
it's
not
a
question
no
height,
it's
a
question
of
what
might
make
sense.
I
actually
had
a
thought,
but
we
were
talking
and
I
know
of
no
dystopian
future
low
density
was
celebrated
the
same.
The
second
point
I
wanted
to
make
is
this
is
a
long-range
planning
committee.
L
Think
back,
27
years,
if
this
plan
is
to
go
to
the
2015.,
what's
the
transportation
system
was
like
there
was
no
Uber,
no
Bike
Share.
No,
what
is
coming
is
beetles,
where
you
just
something
to
fly
out.
Drones
were
not
allowed,
so
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
maybe
you
should
go
into
the
plans
like.
Where
are
the
bike
stations
going
to
be?
L
The
charging
stations
are
all
the
e-bitables
adult
driving
cars
are
a
thing
now
autonomous
self-driving
cars
back
in
the
future,
so
you're
parking,
you
walk
it
out
of
your
car
walk
into
the
store
and
your
cars
goes
and
perks
itself
somewhere.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
so.
Those
are
the
things
that
as
a
long-range,
Planning
Commission,
they
want
to
think
about
it.
It's
the
future,
not
tomorrow.
A
B
You
so
much
Julie!
Yes,
thank
you.
It's
always
great
beloved
husband
glad
to
be
here.
Thank
you
all
for
what
you're
doing
a
couple.
This
is
all
new
to
me
and
a
couple
words
caught
my
ear
this
evening.
One
of
them
was
green
mainstream
and
it
is
a
misnomer
to
consider
that
where
this
particular
AMA
site
could
ever
be
a
green
Main
Street,
because
it
doesn't
have
a
compatible.
B
That
terrain
starts
a
mile
away.
Number
two
adaptive
reuse.
There
is
a
brick
building
that
could
be
converted
into
homes
that
could
provide
affordable
housing
on
site
in
a
beautiful
neighborhood
that
has
been
sustained
and
nurtured
by
the
people
who
live
there
for
27
years,
so
that
it
is
green
and
beautiful.
We
have
volunteered.
We.
H
B
Care
of
public
spaces
Trail
we
clean
up
in
partnership
with
both
the
county
and
feds
the
national
park
land.
We
are
the
opposite
of
a
dated
Community
because
we
know,
because
we
walk
in
our
neighborhood,
that
the
people
from
the
high
rises
across
the
way
cross
the
dangerous
and
instant
Boulevard
Miss
Homer
to
come
to
us
to
walk
their
dogs
to
have
their
children,
see
nature
and
enjoy
what
I
believe
Langston
plan
is
committed
to
I.
B
Think
the
biggest
threat
is
that,
20
years
or
25
years
from
now,
you
will
regret
not
turning
our
community
into
the
gateway
to
the
gardens
and
parks
of
our
County.
We
have
enough
concrete
across
the
street
from
my
house,
which
we
supported
is
the
development
that
someday
will
create
an
Esplanade
and.
B
A
Thank
you,
everyone.
It
is
9
29.
We
have
advertisers
meeting
to
go
to
9,
30.
Jamal
and
tell
me
has
a
question
that
he's
going
to
be
asking
staff
by
email.
Nia
Bagley
also
has
a
question
that
she's
going
to
be
asking
staff
via
email.
If
any
of
you
have
any
questions
that
you'd
like
to
be
asking
of
Staff,
please
do
so
by
email,
and
we
will
see
you
again
at
our
next
meeting,
which
is
again
tentatively
scheduled
for
September
5th.
A
Thank
you
guys
for
a
very
productive
meeting
and
we
apologize
for
all
of
the
convention
and
technical
issues
that
we
have.
We
blame
it
on
the
weather.