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Welcome
to
the
December
5th
2022
meeting
of
the
Arlington
County
Planning
Commission
I
am
commission,
chair,
Daniel
Weir
tonight.
The
commission
is
a
general
agenda,
includes
several
items,
including
a
deferral
of
items
implementing
the
Crystal
City
teardrop
Park,
a
vacation
of
a
paper
Street
adjacent
to
Quincy,
Street
below
I-66,
a
historical
designation,
a
Redevelopment
of
the
Boston
Macy's
and
corresponding
transfer
development
rights
from
The
Haven
apartment,
complex,
an
item
related
to
Crystal,
City,
phase
development,
site
plan
and
commission
business.
B
Tonight's
final
item
of
business
includes
that
routine,
commission
business
and
reports,
including
electing
our
chair
and
vice
chair
for
next
year
next
Monday
December
12th.
The
commission
will
consider
a
recommendation
to
advertise
public
hearings
on
the
missing
middle
housing,
study
of
General
land
use
plan
and
zoning
ordinance,
and
if
you
are
here
or
tuned
in
for
that
item,
you
will
need
to
return
on
the
12th
for
anyone
who
might
be
here
for
the
missing
middle
housing.
Study.
B
I
do
want
to
take
the
opportunity
to
note
that
next
Monday's
deliberations
will
not
concern
the
final
proposal
on
missing
middle
housing
reforms,
but
instead
a
proposal
to
advertise
the
hearings
at
which
any
proposed
changes
to
the
zoning,
ordinance
or
general
Andy's
plan
would
be
considered.
Time
per
speaker
may
be
adjusted
in
order
to
ensure
that
the
meeting
can
be
completed
within
time
constraints
and
the
goal
will
be
shaping
the
commission's
discussion
during
an
RTA
process
as
far
as
the
Contours
of
what
the
board
will
and
will
not
be
able
to
consider
again.
B
This
is
just
for
the
benefit
of
anyone
who
is
tuned
in
for
that
tonight
and
I
hope
you
enjoy
the
rest
of
your
evening.
See
you
next
week.
I
would
like
to
share
a
few
logistical
points
for
those
members
or
Commissioners
participating
remotely
tonight's
meeting
is
available
as
a
broadcast
with
closed
captioning
on
Comcast,
Xfinity
channels,
25
and
1085,
Verizon,
FiOS
channels,
39
and
40,
and
the
County
website
audio
of
tonight's
meeting
is
available
via
phone.
B
If
Commissioners
presenters,
our
speakers
lose
internet
connectivity
during
tonight's
meeting,
please
reconnect
with
us
by
phone
I
understand
that
a
number
was
circulated
with
the
team's
invite
and
registered
speakers
have
received
Ms
Martin's
telephone
number
in
their
speaker,
registration,
confirmation
for
other
for
other
presenters
and
speakers
joining
us
through
Microsoft
teams.
Please
keep
your
phones
and
devices
muted
until
you
are
called
upon.
Please
turn
off
sound
to
any
devices
around
you
to
minimize
interference
and
please
keep
your
cameras
off
until
the
clerk
calls
on
you
to
speak
when
called
upon
to
speak.
B
Please
unmute
Yourself
by
clicking
on
the
microphone
icon
that
is
located
on
your
meeting
command
bar
the
moderator
does
not
have
the
ability
to
unmute
you
once
you
have
spoken.
Please
turn
your
cameras
off.
If
you
are
dialing
in
by
phone
press
star
6
to
unmute
public
speakers,
you
will
be
called
upon
by
the
clerk
at
an
assigned
time.
Pre-Registration
at
tonight's
meat
hearing
was
required
and
we
are
not
able
to
accommodate
additional
speakers.
Public
commenters
tonight
we'll
have
three
minutes
to
comment
as
individuals
in
five
minutes
to
speak.
B
If
representing
an
organization
and
a
speaking
timer
will
be
displayed
on
screen
by
the
clerk,
if
you
are
dialing
in
by
phone
and
unable
to
see
the
screen,
we
will
provide
an
audible
warning
when
30
seconds
are
remaining.
You
will
be
muted
when
your
time
is
expired.
The
meeting
chat
is
active
for
present,
presenters
or
Commissioners,
who
need
technical
assistance.
Only
do
not.
Please
do
not
use
the
meeting
chat
for
discussion
for
public
comment
for
questions
about
agenda
items
or
requests
for
more
information.
B
All
public
comment
must
be
shared
verbally
for
the
record
during
the
assigned
public
testimony
period.
And
finally,
this
tonight
is
a
public
forum.
Tonight's
meeting
will
be
recorded
and
posted
to
the
County
website
and
all
information
associated
with
tonight's
meeting,
whether
written
or
spoken,
is
subject
to
the
Virginia
Freedom
of
Information
Act.
B
As
a
ministerial
matter
for
attendance,
we
have
two
Commissioners
who
are
joining
us
remotely
for
medical
reasons.
Commissioner
lent
tell
me,
and
commissioner
giren,
we
will
be
joined
in
person
later
this
evening
by
both
commissioner
Steinberger
and
commissioner
Hughes.
With
that
Madam
clerk.
Will
you
please
call
our
first
item.
C
The
first
item
is
an
ordinance
to
abandon
a
portion
of
South
Eid
Street
as
a
public
Street,
subject
to
a
reservation
of
an
easement
for
existing
public
and
private
utilities.
Such
portion
of
the
street
dedicated
to
the
county.
Indeed,
book
271
at
page
326
containing
12076
square
feet,
running
north
to
south,
between
Army
Navy,
Drive
and
12th,
Street
South,
and
located
between
the
Eastern
17
and
one
half
foot
portion
of
South
Eid
Street
and
parcel
F
Pentagon
industrial
center
RPC.
B
Thank
you
very
much,
an
additional
word
that
I'll
share
on
this
item.
The
Planning
Commission
was
initially
going
to
hear
several
items
tonight
for
implementing
Arlington
Junction
Park,
including
a
general
Landis
plan,
Amendment
rezoning
and
a
vacation
ordinance
tonight.
These
items
will
not
be
heard
in
full,
but
rather
in
January,
in
order
to
comply
with
adjacent
jurisdiction,
military
installation
and
Airport
30-day
noticing
requirements
per
the
state
code.
So
these
items
will
be
re-advertised
for
final
consideration
at
the
respective
January
23rd
2023
public
hearings
of
the
commission
and
the
County
Board
are
soon
thereafter.
B
So
that's
why
item
one
is
what
it
is,
as
opposed
to
part
of
a
more
holistic
package,
and
it
was
adjusted
in
the
newspaper
and
hence
still
on
the
agenda.
So
it
too
will
not
be
heard
tonight
rather
will
be
re-advertised
and
heard
in
January
as
part
of
that
full
package.
With
that
remind
me
who,
who
I
have
meant
to
ask
who
we
have
for
four
staff,
but
you
have
the
record
so
I
will
I'll
lean
on
you.
B
B
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
So
I
I
I
want
to
give
just
Commissioners
really
briefly
an
opportunity
to
ask
any
questions.
B
Okay,
thank
you
and
thank
you,
commissioner.
Schroll.
Are
there
any
questions
from
any
commissioners
or
commissions
represented?
B
My
my
notes.
Are
such
I
have
a
whole
lot
of
nothing
on
my
notes.
Hence
I've
skipped
ahead.
Sorry
like
like
not
there's,
my
notes
aren't
blank.
They
say
that
we
have
no
one
here,
so
my
so
I
believe
then
that
that
that
just
it
it
would
be
in
order
to
bring
discussion
before
the
commission
and
I
would
entertain
a
motion.
I
believe
we
have
the
staff
recommended
motion,
Mr
chairman
to
defer
yes
Mr,
commissioner
schroll.
E
If
there
isn't
any
further
discussion,
I
would
move
to
the
Planning
Commission
defer
consideration
of
the
proposed
ordinance
of
Abandonment,
ordinance
of
vacation
and
deed
of
resub
division,
rededication
and
dedication.
Until
the
January
21st
2023
County
board
meeting
a.
F
B
It's
been
moved
by
commissioner
schroll
seconded
by
commissioner
Patel.
Commissioner
schroll.
Would
you
like
to
speak
to
your
motion.
E
I
think
County
staff
indicated
why
we're
here
and
needed
to
Mr
chairman
so
I
think
it
sort
of
self-explanatory.
B
B
Can
I
confirm
before
I
go
down
the
roll
that
Commissioners
lent?
Tell
me
and
giren
have
both
joined
us
remotely.
B
You
yes
I'm
on
the
line.
Thank
you
both
very
much
hearing
no
other
discussion,
commissioner
Bagley.
B
B
Bagley
votes
I,
commissioner
giren.
H
B
Commissioner,
Hughes
is
will
be
joining
us
later.
Commissioner,
one
tell
me
aye,
commissioner
Patel
commissioner
Peterson.
A
B
Commissioner
sarley
hi,
commissioner
schroll
aye
Mr
Steinberger,
will
be
joining
us
later
this
evening.
I
vote
I
as
well.
The
motion
carries
eight
to
zero
Madam
clerk.
Would
you
please
call
the
next
item.
C
Item
number
two
is
in
order
to
abandon
a
portion
of
the
original
North
Quincy
Street
as
a
public
Street,
subject
to
a
reservation
of
an
easement
for
existing
public
and
private
utilities.
Such
portion
of
the
street
dedicated
as
a
public
Street.
Indeed,
book
174
at
page
494
containing
15
469
square
feet
running
generally
north
to
south,
between
I-66
custis,
Memorial,
Parkway
and
14th
Street
North
located
adjacent
to
parcel
a
Quincy
view.
Rpc
number.
B
I
believe
Ms
Herbst
I
believe
that
we're
going
to
you
again
as
well
is
that
right
and
we
have
I
believe
that
we've
communicated
10
minutes
I
I,
don't
know
that
you'll
need
all
of
it.
But
let
me
know
if
you've
heard
something
else.
As
far
as
timing.
B
D
I'm
here
to
tell
you
about
the
item
before
you
tonight,
which
is
the
portion
of
North
Quincy
Street
abandonment,
as
a
public
Street.
D
This
is
coming
to
you
as
a
request
by
the
county
manager
to
abandon
an
original
portion
of
North
Quincy
Street
to
conform
with
the
existing
Master
Transportation
plan
of
this
original
portion
of
North
Quincy
Street
right-of-way
was
dedicated
about
a
hundred
years
ago
and
is
no
longer
designated
as
a
public
Street
on
the
MTP,
since
the
construction
of
the
Quincy
bridge
and
I-66
quite
a
number
of
years
ago.
D
This
abandonment
will
allow
the
installation
of
a
seven
foot
high
fence
at
the
west
side
of
the
art
bus
parking
area
versus
the
four
foot
high
limit.
That's
adjacent
to
the
current
right-of-way
Federal
Regulations
require
that
taller
fence
for
bus
security,
but
based
on
the
fact
that
the
current
right-of-way
is
closer
to
the
fence,
it's
limited
to
the
four
feet
tall
and
so
by
abandoning
the
right-of-way
that
would
allow
the
fence
to
be
raised
to
a
seven
foot
high
fence
to
conform
with
the
federal
requirements.
D
D
This
diagram
here
shows
you
the
MTP,
the
yellow
area
is
there.
The
yellow
street
is
the
physically
constructed
North
Quincy
Street.
It
is
a
Type
e
arterial,
Street
shown
in
yellow
and,
as
you
can
see,
the
original
portion
is
not
showing
at
all
on
the
MTP.
D
B
You
Madam
do
we
have
any
public
speakers
on
this
item.
I
I'll
be
right
back,
so
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
As
I
know,
you
have
a
busy
month
of
meetings
and
I'll,
be
free,
I,
live
in
the
neighborhood
and
know
that
our
bbsca
president
will
be
speaking
tonight.
Referencing
a
letter
that
bbsca
submitted
today
asking
you
to
defer
this
item.
We
learned
of
this
item
just
before
Thanksgiving
less
than
two
weeks
ago.
Other
members
of
the
neighborhood
would
have
liked
to
have
spoken,
but
could
not
make
this
work
for
their
calendars
and
I'll.
I
Add
some
that
nearest
neighbor
John
Cooper
has
authorized
me
to
report
that
she
did
not
receive
notification
by
mail
or
in
any
other
form,
as
discussed
in
the
bdsca
letter
which
you
would
have
received
today.
I
There
are
several
missions
and
misrepresentations
in
the
report
such
that
a
deferral
is
in
order
also
enable
you,
if
you're
able
to
deferred
it,
will
enable
you
to
more
closely
review
the
concerns
elaborated
in
the
bdsd
letter
and
give
staff
an
opportunity
to
revise
the
letter
for
their
reports,
the
application,
references,
the
adjacent
property
and
it's
zoning.
What
is
known
as
the
Quincy
site,
as
you
might
know,
related
to
the
Quincy
site?
I
I
Relatedly
I
note
that
in
the
recently
approved
CRT
there
is
something
referred
to
as
Flight
Plan
operational
that
has
been
budgeted,
we're
not
sure
what
site
plan
operational
means
and
what
the
planning
commission's
role
will
be
in
it,
but
hope
that
the
site
finally
gets
the
commission
and
Community
review
that
it
deserves.
I
Speaking
of
the
application
it
does
characterized.
This
is
simply
an
administrative
cleanup
action
with
broader
implications
without
broader
implications
for
the
neighborhood.
There
should
be
a
no
issue
on
waiting
a
month
or
so,
if
you
would
defer,
after
all,
the
new
Queen
sometime
in
the
late
70s
early
1980s
and
there's
been
no
cleanup
action
occurring
in
that
intervening
period.
I
So
we
don't
think
that
a
month
or
so
to
look
at
this
more
closely
is
should
be
problematic
and
if
the
county
needs
to
install
a
higher
fence
like
any
other
property
owner
in
Arlington,
would
experience
when
encountering
a
similar
situation.
I
The
county
could
simply
move
the
fence
to
a
location
within
their
property,
with
the
setbacks
that
would
allow
for
someone
to
expense.
So
again,
asking
to
please
defer.
Send
this
back
to
staff
cbsca
president
Jim
Rogan
will
be
speaking
tonight
and
thank
you
and
happy
holidays.
Sorry
about
the
audio.
Thank.
K
J
J
Tonight:
okay,
my
name
is
Jim
Rosen
I'm
here
in
my
role
as
president
of
the
Boston
Virginia
Square
civic
association,
whose
boundaries
include
the
Quincy
site
that
my
neighbor
just
referred
to,
and
our
goal
as
a
civic
association
is
to
protect
and
promote
the
welfare
of
the
neighborhood,
and
it
is
with
that
in
mind
that
I
am
here,
on
behalf
of
the
executive
committee,
to
request
that
you
put
off
consideration
of
the
application
for
abandonment
of
the
old
North
Quincy
Street
right
of
way.
J
The
letter
that
we
sent
you
earlier
today
gives
a
lot
of
detail
on
the
reasons
we
are
requesting
this.
This
deferral,
my
neighbor
Mariah,
just
referred
to
some
of
those.
Basically
it
comes
down
to
two
things.
First
of
all,
the
application
makes
it
seem
like
the
proposed
abandonment
is
just
a
minor
sort
of
administrative
Cleanup.
J
In
fact,
the
action
could
result
and
some
really
bad
outcomes
for
the
neighbors
and
for
the
neighborhood,
and
second,
the
application
leaves
out
a
lot
of
very
relevant
information
about
the
Quincy
site,
in
particular,
fails
to
mention
the
actions
that
the
County
Board
took
in
May
related
to
placement
of
the
Arlington
Public
Schools,
White
Fleet
and
the
29
art
buses
that
are
now
located
there.
The
board
took
those
very
significant
actions
by
the
way,
without
any
involvement
or
oversight
from
the
Planning
Commission.
J
B
B
I
am
going
to
take
privilege's
chair
to
just
say
very
quickly
that
to
take
a
moment
to
acknowledge
that
there
are
several
concerns
that
that
we've
heard
from
public
commenters
and
from
the
Boston
Virginia
Square
civic
association.
And
it
is
quite
clear
to
us
to
me
anyway
and
and
I
I'm,
confident
all
the
members
of
the
commission
that
the
concerns
are
deeply
felt.
But
it
does
seem
to
me
that
the
scope
of
the
issues
before
us
are
limited
to
the
reconciliation
of
the
existing
real
estate
boundaries
and
the
master
Transportation
plan.
B
K
Yeah,
thank
you,
chair
Weir
I,
move
that
the
Planning
Commission
has
determined
that
the
proposed
abandonment
of
portion
of
North
Quincy
is
substantially
in
accord
with
the
adopted
comprehensive
plan
or
applicable
part
thereof,
meaning
Master
Transportation
plan.
Second,.
B
Thank
you
motion
has
been
moved
and
seconded
I
I
met
two
notes
earlier
that
commissioner,
let
Tommy
circulated
a
written
report
on
Friday
in
advance
of
tonight's
meeting
and
what
what
we'll
do
now
is
is
we'll
have
any
discussion
amongst
the
commission
or
opportunities
to
ask
questions
within
the
context
of
the
motion
that
is
on
the
floor.
So
there
there
is
going
to
be
an
opportunity
for
anyone
to
ask
any
questions
or
topics,
but
but
it
is
it
it's
it's
just
taking
things
in
in
this
particular
order.
B
K
It
was
simply
that
this
the
same
presentation
was
given
at
the
Transportation
Commission
meeting
last
Thursday.
There
was
no
discussion
and
the
vote
was
unanimous
to
approve
the
abandonment.
B
G
That's
right,
thank
you
very
much.
I'm.
Sorry,
commissioner,
tell
me
I
know
there
was
an
issue
with
my
receiving
a
report.
So
I
did
not
see
this
I
have
not
seen
your
report
yet,
although
I
certainly
respect
TC's
deliberations
on
this,
my
question
was
about
the
Outreach.
What
Outreach
was
undertaken
and
you
can
you
or
staff,
comment
on
that?
Thank
you.
G
D
G
D
There's
not
normally
Outreach
to
the
community
other
than
the
required
notification.
The
publication
in
the
newspaper
which
was
done
for
this
item
and
it
has
been
staff's
policy
to
request
applicants
for
these
types
of
things
to
notify
the
civic
association
which
which
I
did
on
behalf
of
the
county,
was
to
eat
by
email
notified.
The
civic
association
we
also
by
which
is
our
policy
to
send
to
have
applicants,
send
letters
to
surrounding
property
owners,
and
that's
pretty
Limited
in
terms
of
you
know
immediately
surrounding
it's
not
a
broad,
a
broad
interpretation.
G
Thank
you
very
much,
commissioner.
Tell
me:
can
you
just
weigh
in
on
TC's
interpretation
of
all
of
that?
This
is
very
helpful
for
me.
Thank
you.
K
L
Thank
you,
Ms
Hurst,
the
community
and
this
big
associations
have
raised
some
concerns
here.
Do
you
feel
that
their
concerns
are
valid,
but
we
need
to
proceed
with
this
anyway,
because
it's
important
for
the
fence,
or
do
you
feel
like
maybe
there's
some
miscommunication
about
what
this
change
that
we're
talking
about
tonight
is
actually
going
to
how
it
may
impact
them.
D
I
think
that's
probably
the
case
that
there's
a
misinterpretation.
This
item
is
just
and
regarding
the
abandonment
of
the
street
right
away,
we're
not
here
discussing
the
use
of
the
Quincy
site,
yeah
I
think
those
you
know
those
issues
were
discussed
in
June
in
terms
of
the
temporary
use
for
the
art,
bus
parking
and
the
White
Fleet
parking.
I
M
Okay,
so
more
clarifying
questions
than
anything.
I
also
agree
with
commissioner
giren
in
her
question
as
to
the
time
frame
here.
M
Knowing
the
sensitivities
in
that
neighborhood
about
this
piece,
it
just
seems
to
me
that
notifying
them
a
couple
days
before
Thanksgiving,
where
a
majority
of
the
people
in
this
area
kind
of
leave
might
not
have
been
as
sensitive
as
it
could
have
been
and
I.
Don't
know
if
that's
just
standard,
but
given
there
was
a
major
holiday
in
there,
I'm,
not
sure
how
sensitive
that
was
notifications
and
newspapers.
M
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Okay,
your
slide.
That
indicated
one
of
the
things
that
you
need
to
do
this
for
was
to
put
the
fence
up
immediately
plays
into
the
neighbor's
concern
that
this
has
something
to
do
with
the
other.
So
my
question
is
again:
is
this
just
going
to
be
a
temporary
use
defense
because
it
is
a
temporary
sighting
of
the
buses
so
that
seven
foot
fence
or
would
it
stay
there
after
the.
M
Okay,
now
are
the
fences
scheduled
to
come
down
at
the
conclusion
of
the
temporary
use
for
the
buses?
Okay,
yes,
all
right,
and
does
this
conflict
at
all
with
the
Covenant?
That
is
there.
M
B
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Begley
for
raising
those
items.
Are
there
any
other
questions
or
comments?
Anyone
wish
to
speak
to
the
motion.
Commissioner
gear
Interline.
Tell
me
affirmatively
asking
you
because
I
don't
know.
B
G
B
Thank
you,
commissioner,
gearing
commissioner
will
tell
me
I.
Think
I
heard
you
say
you
were
good
yeah
I
have
nothing
further
to
add
all
right.
Thank
you.
So
with
that
I
believe
that
it
would
be
in
order
to
go
to
the
role
commissioner
Begley,
we'll
start
with
you.
N
B
L
B
B
C
Three
is
age:
26
29-22-1
HD,
consideration
of
the
enactment
of
an
ordinance
pursuant
to
Arlington
County
zoning,
ordinance,
section
11.3
to
designate
Anderson
house
and
lot
located
at
3500,
14th
Street
North
property
as
an
Arlington
historic
preservation,
overlay
district
and
which
District
boundary
shall
include
the
entire
property
identified
as
RPC
number
15-081-026
and
the
adoption
of
associated
historic
district
design
guidelines.
This
ordinance
would
make
the
property
subject
to
Arlington,
County
zoning
ordinance,
section
11.3
and
section
15.7,
and
we
have
a
staff
presentation
by
Serena
Bollinger
and
Cynthia
Leches
Torres.
B
B
H
Perfect,
the
Anderson
house,
located
at
3500,
14th
Street
North,
is
a
vernacular
full
Square
single
family
dwelling
with
minimal
Prairie
stylings
Joseph
C
Anderson
constructed
the
original
portion
of
the
house
Circa
1912.
Shortly
after
purchasing
the
land
in
1916
Anderson
modified
the
original
rectangular
footprint
by
building
a
front
edition
and
porch
that
gives
its
distinctive
Four
Square
massing.
H
Here
you
see
the
haze
tract
the
haze
domini
bought
the
property
in
1854.
It
was
one
of
the
first
developed
Parcels
in
Clarendon,
the
Hayes
family
moved
the
land
in
1854
and
then
lives
on
the
land
for
decades
in
1861
and
1862
Union
Soldiers
encamped
near
the
farm
and
harvested
the
property's
timber
for
fuel
and
building
materials
for
a
nearby
encampment
called
Camp
Union.
After
the
Civil
War
Marina
alonso's
wife
continued
to
establish
her
family
in
Alexandria
County
as
one
of
the
founders
of
the
Boston
Presbyterian
Church.
H
H
Here's
a
property
timeline
that
just
runs
you
through
some
of
the
19th
and
20th
Century
histories
and
goes
through
our
more
recent
owners,
including
the
current
owner
Dr
Marie
schumbrady,
who
has
been
a
steward
of
the
property
for
almost
40
years
now.
This
designation
was
initiated
by
her
in
2016
and
she's
worked
with
us
throughout
the
process
to
bring
this
research
to
you.
H
This
is
the
1921
aerial
image
of
the
area.
The
Circa
1912
home
likely
had
a
single
single
pile
floor
plan
with
a
sitting
area
and
dining
room
on
the
first
floor
and
two
bedrooms
on
the
second
floor
and
the
1916
Edition
created
the
four
square
floor
plan,
which
is
characterized
by
a
first
and
second
story,
divided
into
quarters
with
no
Central
Halls.
H
This
is
the
1934
aerial
image,
which
shows
you
how
much
the
landscape
has
changed.
While
the
house
has
stood
unchanging
on
site.
This
is
the
north
facade.
The
interior
is
not
included
in
the
nomination.
We
only
designate
the
exterior
and
the
site.
However,
just
for
posterity,
we
included
some
descriptions
in
the
report
about
what
the
interior
looks
like
it.
The
first
rule
consists
of
a
four-year
Northeast
cornerstead,
Northwest,
parlor
Central
living
rooms,
dining
room
and
rear
kitchen,
and
the
second
story
has
a
stair
Central,
hallway
bedrooms
and
bathroom.
H
The
interior
of
the
Anderson
house
retains
many
of
its
original
earlier
20th
century
features,
including
some
dating
as
far
as
the
1916
Edition,
including
fireplace
with
wooden
mantel
domed
glass,
light
fixture,
suscended
on
metal
chains,
a
quirk,
bead
picture
rail
molding
and
the
Box
stair,
as
well
as
the
new
post.
This
is
an
image
of
the
north
facade,
which
has
these
very
distinctive
bull
nose,
radial
columns
and
steel
pipe
porch
railings.
So
you
can
also
see
some
of
the
Prairie
stylings
on
the
front
of
the
house.
H
This
is
the
East
Elevation,
where
you
can
see
more
of
the
bulnose
radial,
brick
iron
pipe
ratings,
styled
elevation,
which
has
a
modern
Edition
that
the
Dr
trim
Brady
collaborated
with
the
DRC
to
get
to
review,
and
this
is
the
west
elevation.
We
have
some
of
our
architectural
details,
including
more
of
that
bullnose
radial
brick,
some
of
the
landscape
that
details.
There
are
a
number
of
mature
trees
on
the
landscape
and
there's
a
long
history
of
trees
and
fruit,
trees
and
vegetables
on
the
land.
H
When
the
house
was
early
on
a
homestead,
the
Anderson
house
was
found
to
meet
the
designation
criteria,
e
g
and
K
of
the
Arlington
County
zoning
ordinance
e,
the
property
embodies
distinguishing
characteristics
of
an
architectural
style,
and
although
the
Anderson
house
features
a
typical
Four,
Square
massing,
it's
a
wraparound
first
level
porch
with
masonry
columns,
second
hip
main
roof
and
wide
over
hanging.
Roof
Eaves
evoke
the
pair,
the
architectural,
the
Prairie
architectural
style,
while
Craftsman
Bungalow
and
colonial
revival.
Houses
are
most
typical
in
Arlington
during
the
early
to
mid
20th
century
prairie
style.
H
Examples
are
uncommon
in
the
county
and
this
is
houses
a
remarkable
local
example
of
this
kind
of
vernacular
construction,
Criterion
G,
the
property
embodies
the
elements
of
design
detailing
materials
or
craftsmanship
that
render
its
structurally
architecturally
significant
again
indicating
those
special
architectural
details
that
we
saw
and
then
the
property
is
suitable
for
preservational
restoration.
It
retains
a
lot
of
its
Integrity.
H
The
home's
design
and
materials
have
remained
essentially
unchanged
and
the
workmanship
is
evident.
The
current
owner
has
been
an
incredible
Steward
for
the
past
four
decades.
We
have
developed
design
guidelines
that
go
along
with
it.
They
are
not
intended
to
prohibit
change
but
to
preserve
important
physical
aspects
of
the
historic
district
and
ensure
that
changes
are
compatible
with
the
historic
and
existing
character
and
it's
November
16
2022
public
hearing,
the
hlrb
unanimously
represent
recommended
approval
of
the
Anderson
house.
H
Lhd
and
its
design,
guidelines
and
staff
concurs
with
the
hlrb's
recommendation
and
I
believe.
One
of
our
commissioners
is
here
tonight
to
speak
about
that
ruling
and
finally,
I
have
time
for
any
questions.
If
you
have
any
I
believe
the
owner
is
also
here
tonight
to
to
support
the
nomination.
B
I
believe
that
the
next
step,
then,
since
we
do
not
have
a
applicant
in
the
usual
sense,
would
be
to
go
for
public
speakers.
Do
we
have
any
public
speakers
who
are
not
from
halb.
B
I
I,
my
apologies
in
advance,
is
MS
chambrady.
Would
you
like
to
to
speak
on
this
matter?
B
If
so,
I
would
I
would
invite
you
to
come
to
the
podium
so
that
okay,
okay,
that's
I,
appreciate
brevity,
but
thank
you
for
being
here.
It
sounds
like
we
are
also
joined
by
commissioner
Laporte
from
halb.
O
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you
Commissioners
for
allowing
me
to
speak
this
evening.
My
name
is
Jerry
Laporte.
It's
a
pleasure
to
appear
before
you
as
a
member
and
a
representative
of
the
halrb
and
the
the
art
that
is
the
Arlington
County
Historical
Affairs
and
landmark
Review
Board
in
support
of
the
proposed
designation
of
Anderson
house
at
3500,
14th
Street
North
as
an
Arlington
County,
historic
district.
O
It's
meeting
and
public
hearing
on
a
November
SEC
16
2022
the
halrb
unanimously
and
enthusiastically
recommended
that
Arlington
House
at
the
Anderson
house
rather
be
designated
as
an
Arlington
County
local
historic
district.
The
hlrb
found
that
Anderson
house
met
three
of
the
11
criteria
listed
in
the
Arlington
County.
Zoning
ordinance
for
designation
as
a
local
District
members
of
the
hlrb
were
extremely
enthusiastic
about
the
proposed
designation
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
O
For
one
Anderson
house
is
a
distinctive,
attractive,
well-maintained
property
that
has
delighted
the
eyes
of
passerbys
for
Generations,
it's
Unique,
bullnose,
brick,
facade
and
with
rounded
corners
and
column
fronts,
ports
capture,
our
imagination,
its
location
on
a
residential
street.
That's
a
popular
pedestrian,
walking
and
bicycling
bicycling
path
allows
us
to
savor
its
attributes
as
we
slowly
pass
by
in
case.
Some
of
you
aren't
aware
of
14th
Street
in
this
area
serves
as
a
pedestrian
and
bikers
bicycle
friendly,
alternative
to
busy
Washington
Boulevard,
which
is
directly
to
itself.
O
So
a
lot
of
people
pass
by
this
house
every
day,
even
though
it
is
a
pedestrian
street,
including
students
who
are
walking
to
and
from
Washington
Liberty
High
School,
which
is
just
a
few
blocks
down
the
street.
They
use
this
as
an
alternative
to
Washington
to
walking
on
Washington
Boulevard,
because
it's
a
nice
Street,
the
preservation
event
Anderson
house,
will
allow
us
to
tell
the
story
of
Arlington
better
and
thus
help
us
in
our
community
building,
which
is
the
lodestar
of
good
historic,
historic
preservation.
O
O
So
it's
important
that
it
came
to
be
if
this
is
an
example
of
a
good
historical
example
of
how
Arlington
was
urbanized
in
its
early
days,
just
during
and
after
World
War
One,
on
behalf
of
the
hrb
I'd
like
to
publicly
recognize
and
thank
Dr
Marie
chambrady
who's
here
tonight,
the
owner
of
our
Anderson
house,
which
she
has
offered
for
local
historic,
designation.
Most
owners
of
private
properties.
O
O
B
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Laporte
I
do
not
believe
that
we
have
any
committee
reports
on
this
I'm
looking
around
yeah
I
didn't
think
so.
So
the
discussion
is
then,
with
the
commission
I
for
want
of
of
of
a
shepherded
list
of
recommendations,
I'm
going
to
throw
the
floor
open
to
any
clarifying
questions
or
comments.
What
I'm
going
to
ask
you
to
do
is
to
plan
on
being
called
on
once,
and
this
will
be
a
practice
warm-up
for
how
we're
going
to
do
our
next
item
of
business.
B
So
I'm,
not
seeing
any
hints
I.
Think
I
think
that
it's
great
commissioner
giren,
commissioner
letami
no.
P
Okay
I
to
the
applicant
that
it's
wonderful
to
see
someone
proactively
choosing
to
have
their
property
designated,
especially
such
a
significant
property
designated
in
such
a
way
and
having
come
to
the
Planning
Commission
by
way
of
the
historic
Affairs
and
landmark
review
board.
I
am
very
appreciative
that
you
have
chosen
to
do
this
and
it's
nice
to
hear
from
some
of
the
hlrp
folks
on
this,
so
hi
guys.
B
Yeah
I
want
to
Echo
that
this
is
the
second
time
that
I've
seen
in
my
tenure
on
the
commission
a
an
application
like
this
and
and
fortunately
for
the
community.
It's
the
second
time
where
it's
been
something
that
the
property
owner
has
affirmatively
sought
out
and
and
really
LED
on.
So
thank
you
for
your
contributions
and
thank
you
to
the
commission.
B
Anyone
else
all
right,
I
think
then
that
we,
commissioner
Steinberger,
do
you
can
I
call
on
you
to
give
us
a
motion
if
you're
ready?
Yes,
the
motion,
commissioner
schroll:
has
it
ready
if
you
want
to
give
him
the
honest.
E
All
right,
Mr,
chairman
I,
would
move
the
planning
commissioner
recommended
the
County
Board
that
they
adopt
the
attached
ordinance
to
this
staff
report
dated
November
17
2022
designated
the
Anderson
house
located
at
3500
14th
Street
North
RPC
number.
E
15-081-026
as
a
local,
historic
district
and
further
recommended
the
County
Board
adopt
the
attached
Anderson
house
historic
district
design
guidelines
see
attachment
8
to
the
staff
report
dated
November
17
2022.
B
Commissioner
Steinberg,
please
do
thank
you,
so
the
motion
is
made
by
commissioner
schroll
seconded
by
commissioner
Steinberger.
Commissioner
stroll.
Would
you
like
to
speak
to
your
motion.
E
Just
briefly,
yeah
I
would
concur
with
my
colleagues
that
it
is
it
exciting
to
see
an
app.
We
can't
come
forward
to
to
do
this
and
in
my
tenure
on
the
Planning
Commission,
this
is
I.
Think
the
third
time
I've
seen
this
happen
and
all
have
been
at
all
three
of
those,
including
tonight,
have
been
you
know:
Property
Owners
or
Collective
collections
of
property
owners
coming
forward
to
do
that.
E
I've
also
seen
a
church
come
forward
to
do
that
as
well,
and
so
it's
been
a
great
thing
to
see,
and
it's
also
a
great
way
for
us
to
learn
about
our
history,
so
it
was
great
to
each
time.
This
happens.
It's
another
way
to
to
learn
for
those
of
us
who
didn't
come
through
halrb.
So
so
thank
you
to
the
applicant
and
for
staff
for
all
their
work
as
well.
That
goes
into
this
and
the
the
commission
Mr
Laporte
for
your
you
and
your
colleagues.
E
It's
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
thank
you
for
the
work
that
you
you
do
and
service
the
community
as
well.
So
thank
you.
B
Anyone
else
like
to
speak
as
to
the
motion.
All
right,
I
will
then
go
down
the
role
commissioner
Bagley,
commissioner
gearan.
H
A
B
Commissioner
sarley
aye,
commissioner
schroll
hi,
commissioner
Steinberger
aye
I
vote
I
as
well
motion
carries
nine
two
zero.
Thank
you
thank
you
staff
and
those
who
smoke
if
there
are
no
other
emotions
on
this
matter,
I
believe
that
that
brings
us
to
item
four.
C
This
next
item
has
five
parts:
nfbc
13,
an
ordinance
to
amend,
reenact
and
re-codify
the
Arlington
County
zoning
ordinance,
article
11.2,
appendix
B,
Western
sub
area
regulating
plan
to
designate
5100
7th
Road
RPC
22001024
Haven
Apartments
as
a
Conservation
Area,
and
to
incorporate
Associated
changes
to
the
conservation
area
standards.
Part,
B,
FBC,
n21-0003,.
C
14059044-045039
and
038
receiving
sites
as
part
of
spln
21-000
7,
as
described
below
for
purposes
of
historic
preservation
and
committed,
affordable
housing.
The
sending
site
is
111
118
units
and
the
proposed
density
to
be
transferred
is
up
to
236
residential
units.
Utilizing
a
multiplier
of
two
two
per
neighborhood's
form-based
code,
Conservation
Area
standards.
Item
D
is
a
transfer
of
development
rights
from
The
Haven
Apartments,
located
at
5100
7th
Road
South,
RPC
22001024,
sending
site
to
the
Boston
Macy's
located
at
685
and
701
North
Glebe
Road
RPC.
C
14059044045-038-039
receiving
sites
as
part
of
spln
zero,
zero,
zero,
zero,
seven
as
described
below
for
the
purposes
of
historic
preservation
and
committed,
affordable
housing.
The
sending
site
is
118
units
and
the
proposed
density
to
be
transferred
is
up
to
236
residential
units,
utilizing
a
multiplier
of
two
prayer:
neighborhoods
form-based
code,
Conservation,
Area
standards.
C
The
last
item
item
e
is
spln
21-00007,
685,
Boston
LLC
for
a
site
plan
amendment
to
site
plan
number
193
to
construct
a
mixed-use
residential
building
with
approximately
553
dwelling
units
and
approximately
43
076
square
feet
of
retail
gross
War
area
and
the
co
2.5
mixed-use.
Zoning
District
under
Arlington
County
zoning
ordinance,
section
7.1,
7.12
and
15.5
approximately
as
the
property
is
approximately
121
433
square
feet
located
at
685
and
701
North
Glebe
Road
RPC.
C
14059044-045038
and
039,
the
proposed
density
is
approximately
4.9
far.
Modifications
of
zoning
ordinance
requirements
include
reduced
parking
lot
at
parking
and
loading
ratio,
increased
compact
parking
ratio
density
exclusions,
additional
density
and
other
modifications
as
necessary
to
achieve
the
proposed
development
plan.
Applicable
policies
include
the
general
land
use
plan,
medium
office,
apartment
hotel
and
Boston
sector
plan,
and
we
have
a
soft
presentation
by
two
staff:
Matt
matusek
and
Courtney
badger.
B
Thank
you,
Mr
matusik
and
Ms
Badger
I
believe
we
are
10
minutes
each
and
whichever
one
of
you
wishes
to
start
Miss,
Badger
good.
Q
Evening
Commissioners,
let
me
just
get
the
PowerPoint
up
and
running
here.
Give
me
one
second.
Q
Okay
good
evening
Commissioners
I'm
Courtney
Badger,
with
the
County's
planning
Division
and
tomorrow
tonight,
you'll
be
hearing
a
package
of
five
actions
related
to
The
Haven
Apartments
in
Boston
Macy's
project.
The
items
are
grouped
geographically
and
will
be
presented
in
a
sequential
order,
that's
necessary
to
facilitate
all
components
and
Redevelopment
of
the
Boston
Macy's
site.
My
colleague,
Mac
matusik,
will
be
presenting
on
the
Haven
items,
including
the
neighborhood's
form-based
code.
R
R
The
Haven
Apartments
are
located
within
the
Western
end
of
Columbia
Pike
Corridor,
specifically
within
the
Arlington
Mill
neighborhood,
while
the
site's
Eastern
Edge
borders
with
several
private
properties.
The
Haven
Apartments
share
Frontage
with
multiple
public
right-of-ways,
including
7th
Road,
South,
South,
Florida,
Street
and
8th
Road
South
next
slide
due
to
the
site's
location.
It's
also
important
to
first
provide
some
broader
context
for
the
adopted
policy
in
this
area.
As
several
earlier
planning
efforts
helped
achieve
a
cohesive
vision
for
the
Columbia
Pike
corridor.
R
As
an
outcome
of
those
earlier
initiatives,
the
corridor's
vision
continues
to
be
implemented
through
two
distinct
form-based
codes,
whose
boundaries
are
depicted
on
this
slide.
You
can
see
on
this
graphic
the
smaller
geography
of
the
commercial
form-based
code,
which
was
adopted
back
in
2003
and
which
generally
applies
to
the
commercial
nodes
existing
between
the
residential
areas.
The
Haven
Apartments
are
subject
to
the
neighborhood's
farm-based
code,
which
was
adopted
in
2013
and
generally
applies
to
the
multi-family
sections
of
the
corridor.
R
R
One
of
the
key
regulatory
elements
found
in
the
neighborhoods
from
base
code
is
the
regulating
plan
comprised
of
a
series
of
maps
expressing
the
vision
for
each
property
eligible
to
redevelop
in
this
District.
The
Western
sub-area,
as
depicted
on
this
slide,
represents
the
code's
vision
for
the
Arlington
Mill
and
Columbia
Forest
neighborhoods
and
borders.
The
commercial
Farm
based
code
on
both
its
East
and
West
edges,
shown
here
in
the
peach
color
near
Columbia.
R
The
Haven
Apartments
specifically
are
Guided
by
the
urban
residential
and
townhouse
slash
small
apartment,
Frontage
types
which
are
using
the
orange
and
blue
colors
on
this
map,
and
they
permit
a
residential
form
of
development,
ranging
from
three
to
six
stories
in
height
I'd,
also
like
to
point
out
The
Pedestrian
pathway
that
is
depicted
in
a
green
line
running
north
south
throughout
this
western
part
of
the
Columbia
Pike.
It
represents
a
long-term
vision
for
a
publicly
accessible
connection,
delivered
incrementally
once
multiple
sites
in
this
neighborhood
redevelop
using
neighborhood's
form-based
code
next
slide.
R
While
the
regulating
plan
primarily
focuses
on
Redevelopment
opportunities,
it
also
captures
areas
where
preservation
was
envisioned,
helping
Implement
earlier
planning
Works
captured
in
the
2012
Columbia
Pike
neighborhoods
area
plan.
This
exhibit
focuses
on
the
film
or
Garden
Apartments
and
the
bark
of
departments,
both
of
which
represent
the
form-based
codes
conservation
areas,
properties
which
include
historically
significant
buildings,
provide
affordable
housing
and
offer
considerable
open
space
and
tree
canopy
to
help
preserve
these
important
resources.
R
Conservation
areas
are
also
eligible
to
become
sending
sites
for
purposes
of
utilizing
the
transfer
development
rights
to
another
site
along
Columbia,
Pike
or
elsewhere.
In
the
county,
in
exchange
for
preservation
and
site
improvements,
as
you're
aware,
one
of
the
applicant's
requests
was
to
convert
the
current
designation
of
the
Haven
Apartments
from
one
that
prescribed
Redevelopment
to
one
which
instead
signaled
preservation
by
establishing
this
property
as
a
conservation
area
within
a
neighborhood's
farm-based
code.
R
As
a
result,
staff
recommends
the
regulating
plan
for
the
Western
sub-area,
where
the
subject
property
is
located,
be
changed
from
the
existing
version.
You
see
here
on
the
left
to
the
proposed
version.
That's
shown
on
the
right.
This
involves
removing
Redevelopment
potential
that
was
depicted
on
the
surrounding
streets
and
incorporating
the
preservation
color
onto
the
private
property,
as
currently
shown
on
the
other
two
conservation
areas.
R
R
Well,
much
of
the
changes
to
the
neighborhood's
Farm
based
code
are
captured
in
the
regulating
plan
document.
Some
additional
updates
are
also
warranted
in
part
7
of
that
code.
This
is
where
specific
guidance
exists
for
conservation
areas
and
where
staff
believes
additional
Clarity
could
be
provided
in
terms
of
the
process
involved
in
preserving
these
sites.
We
would
also
use
this
opportunity
to
introduce
the
Haven
Apartments
to
the
list
of
conservation
areas
where
Barcroft
and
Fillmore
Garden
Apartments
already
exist
next
slide
separate
from
the
neighborhoods
Farmers
code.
R
Finally,
as
we
wrap
up
the
actions
involving
the
Haven
Apartments,
the
total
amount
of
density
that
this
new
Conservation
Area
could
send
needs
to
be
certified
through
County
board
approval.
This
step
allows
for
an
opportunity
to
highlight
current
transfer
development
rights
policies,
both
county-wide
and
those
found
in
the
neighborhood's
form-based
code.
We
previously
mentioned
the
purposes
of
the
TDR
in
this
instance,
but
it's
also
important
to
highlight
the
density
multipliers
that
were
included
in
the
neighborhood's
form
base
code
to
help
initiate
and
Implement
these
transactions
transactions,
which
typically
occur
between
different
property
owners.
R
Since
the
density
is
proposed
to
be
transferred
away
from
Columbia
Pike,
the
applicant
would
use
a
multiplier
of
two
applied
to
the
118
existing
units
at
the
Haven
Apartments,
resulting
in
236
units
that
can
be
sent
to
the
Boston
Macy's
site.
Had
the
applicant
proposed
to
send
these
units
to
a
site
along
Columbia
Pike,
where
bonus
height
Provisions
exist
with
the
neighborhood's
farm-based
code.
Up
to
354
units
could
be
eligible
for
certification
using
the
higher
multiplier
and
with
that
I
will
hand
things
back
to
Courtney.
Thank
you.
Q
Thanks
Matt,
so
switching
now
over
to
the
Boston
Macy's
site,
the
subject
site
is
located
on
this
triangular
Block
in
Boston,
which
is
in
site
plan
number
193
and
the
site
today
consists
of
the
Macy's
department,
store
and
above
floors
of
vacant
office.
Space
and
a
few
things
I
want
to
point
out
is
the
Macy's
site
today.
Has
interior
connections
between
their
property
and
Boston
quarter,
there's
also
a
private
Street
on
the
property
site
that
runs
between
the
building
and
the
adjacent
Point
office.
Q
Building
the
site
has
a
general
land
use,
designation
of
medium
office
apartment
hotel
and
it's
within
the
co
2.5
mixed
juice.
Zoning
District
the
site
is
also
within
the
Boston
sector
plan
and
there
are
two
past
County
Board
approvals
that
were
done
in
2015
and
2016,
that
approved
additional
density
and
building
changes
to
this
property
that
were
never
realized.
Q
In
the
course
of
our
review
staff.
Analyzed
the
project
for
compliance
with
County
goals,
policies
and
objectives
outlines
in
the
documents
included
here
for
brevity
I'm,
going
to
talk
on
the
key
areas
of
Staff
review
early
in
the
review
process.
Staff
in
the
sprc
identified
a
handful
of
concerns
regarding
site
design,
connection
to
Boston
quarter
and
transportation,
and
over
the
past
year
the
applicant
has
worked
closely
with
staff
to
address
these
issues
and
resolve
them
and
get
to
a
place
where
staff
can
support
this
project.
Q
So
for
the
next
handful
of
slides
I'm,
going
to
walk
through
what
the
identified
issue
was
and
how
what
the
applicant
has
done
to
resolve
the
issue
so
starting
with
site
design.
The
original
submittal,
which
is
shown
on
the
left
originally
had
all
the
quote-unquote
back
of
house
uses
loading.
Mechanical
equipment
uses
push
towards
Glebe
Road
the
location
of
the
loading
dock
entrance
at
the
middle
of
the
frontage,
combined
with
the
above
grade
Transformers
on
the
corner,
didn't
allow
for
retail
pedestrian
activation
of
Glebe.
Q
The
revised
plan-
that's
before
you
tonight,
which
is
shown
on
the
right,
provides
an
improvement
to
the
uses
along
Glebe
with
the
undergrounding
of
mechanical
equipment.
The
addition
of
retail
space,
the
movement
of
the
loading
dock
entry
all
provide
for
enhanced
Glebe
facade.
The
applicant
also
increased
the
number
of
entrances
to
the
grocery
store
along
Wilson
Boulevard
and
included
a
connection
point
to
Boston
quarter.
Q
Another
issue
that
was
identified
was
the
connection
or
lack
of
connection
to
Boston
quarter.
Originally,
the
applicant
was
not
proposing
a
ground
floor
connection
between
the
grocery
store
and
Boston
quarter
on
the
left.
You
can
see
an
interim
connection
that
they
presented
to
staff
and
on
the
right
is
the
revised
condition.
That's
before
you
tonight.
The
connection
on
the
right
would
be
constructed
with
knockout
panels
to
allow
for
future
windows
and
transparency,
and
it
has
been
conditioned
to
allow
flexibility
for
them
to
add
more
transparency
in
a
wider
physical
during
connection
into
the
grocery.
Q
If
it's
feasible
in
the
future,
the
final
topic
of
staff's
review
that
I'll
touch
on
is
transportation.
Originally
staff
highlighted
four
Transportation
issues
now
I'm
going
to
briefly
run
through
each
of
these,
starting
with
the
addition
of
the
left
turn
lane
from
Glebe
Road
onto
the
private
Street
staff
was
originally
concerned
about
the
length
of
the
left,
turn
pocket
and
requested
the
applicant
to
do
an
additional
analysis
about
this
movement
in
this
intersection.
Q
Specifically,
the
applicant
came
back
and
submitted
a
long
technical
memo
in
response
to
our
request,
and
that
could
be
viewed
on
the
project
web
page
and
that
provided
sufficient
analysis
to
demonstrate
that
the
queuing
and
traffic
would
not
reach
unacceptable
levels.
During
peak
hours,
second
staff
challenged
the
applicant
to
look
at
pedestrian
safety
at
the
intersection
of
Glebe
in
7th
or
Glebe
in
the
private
Street.
The
applicant
is
now
proposing
to
to
do
certain
pedestrian
measures,
such
as
having
lead
pedestrian
intervals,
allowing
pedestrians
to
utilize
the
crosswalk
part
prior
to
Vehicles
traffic
light
turning
green.
Q
There
will
not
be
no
turn
on
red
from
the
private
Street
onto
Glebe.
No
left
turns
from
the
private
Street
they're.
Also
settling
the
feasibility
of
adding
a
nose
to
the
southern
median
of
the
intersection,
and
they
have
agreed
to
a
condition
to
assess
and
monitor
safety
after
the
project
is
constructed
and
to
implicate
Implement
mitigations,
as
deemed
necessary
by
the
county.
Q
Third,
the
location
of
the
parking
garage
to
cause
some
concerns
about
cueing.
The
applicant
has
then
shifted
the
location
of
the
parking
access
for
the
retail
to
give
more
distance
between
the
entry
and
then
in
the
intersection
and
align
it
with
the
existing
parking
entry
for
Boston
Point
garage
they've
also
set
the
garage
gate
farther
back
into
the
garage
to
allow
more
queuing
in
the
garage
itself
instead
of
on
the
street.
Q
Finally,
I
touched
on
this
briefly
earlier,
but
the
location
of
the
loading
dock
entry
was
moved
to
allow
for
better
pedestrian
experience
and
better
turning
movements
for
the
trucks,
though
there
will
also
be
limits
on
peak
hour
loading
and
when
that
Glebe
loading
entrance
can
be
accessed.
They've
also
agreed
to
a
condition
requiring
a
loading
dock
master
and
monitoring
to
allow
the
county
to
require
additional
safety
measures
as
needed
to
support
this
project
and
earn
the
necessary
density.
Q
S
But
that
works
okay
well
good
evening.
Members
of
the
commission
chair,
we
are,
my
name-
is
Andrew
painter
I'm,
a
zoning
attorney
with
the
law
firm
of
Walsh
Colucci
speaking
tonight
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
Insight
Property
Group.
Joining
me
at
the
table
is
Sarah
Davidson
and
Trent
Smith
with
insight,
as
well
as
Dan
Van
Pelt
with
Grove
Slade,
and
we
have
our
entire
design
team
on
the
phone
as
well
virtually
to
be
able
to
answer
any
questions.
S
I
do
want
to
start
off
by
thanking
staff
for
its
hard
work
on
this
Matt
and
Courtney
in
particular,
this
project
looks
vastly
different
than
the
one
that
was
originally
proposed
and
it
has
taken
several
months
to
get
to
this
point.
We
had
a
lapse
of
about
seven
months
between
our
first
and
second
sprc.
Meetings
to
you
know
deal
with
a
variety
of
of
issues
as
as
was
noted
by
staff
and
the
sprc
process,
and
the
staff
analysis
has
certainly
made
this
a
better
project
before
doubling
the
project.
S
For
those
of
you
who
who
have
studied
Arlington
history,
the
Parkington
Shopping
Center
opened
in
1951,
the
hex
department
store
was
the
anchor
of
the
shopping
center
and,
of
course,
that
was
later
converted
into
a
Macy's
in
2006.,
and
if
you
go
out
there
today,
it
is
not
an
altogether
pleasant
experience.
There
are
areas
that
are
devoid
of
trees.
The
facade
detracts
from
the
Ambiance
and
the
streetscape
activation
in
terms
of
you
know,
uses
their
crack
sidewalks
across
the
site.
S
There's
pinch
points
it's
a
very
uninviting
environment
for
pedestrians
and,
more
recently,
as
many
of
you
all
know,
the
area
has
seen
tremendous
change.
There
are
now
multi-family
buildings
on
the
south
side
of
Glebe
Road,
there's
a
new
Lively
restaurant
scene
on
Wilson
Boulevard,
but
there's
very
little
interaction
between
those
two
uses,
owing
largely
to
the
mega
block
configuration
that
is
formed
by
Wilson,
Boulevard,
Randolph
and
Glebe
Road.
S
So
inside
approached
this
site
with
that
understanding
and
knowing
that
there's
a
lot
of
design
opportunity,
but
there's
a
lot
of
design
responsibility
as
well,
if
I
could
also
Focus
just
on
the
economic
development
imperatives
and
benefits
of
the
project
for
a
second,
it
is
next
to
impossible
to
secure
a
large
format
retailer
to
replace
the
Macy's
given
today's
retail
environment.
But
insight
has
managed
to
secure
a
national
credit.
S
Urban-Based
groceries
chain
for
this
location
inside
has
actually
been
working
for
the
last
nine
years,
with
this
particular
grocer
to
identify
a
spot
in
Boston
and
I
believe
that
grocer
has
actually
been
looking
even
longer
than
that.
But
we
are
pleased
to
say
that
there
is
a
fully
signed
20-year
lease
in
place
for
this
grocer
at
this
site.
They
are
very
excited
to
be
here
and
from
a
planning
perspective
and
your
staff
report
notes.
This
Grocers
are
considered
to
be
an
important
amenity
under
the
Arlington
retail
plan.
S
The
Boston
sector
plan
goes
further
and
and
highlights
them
as
a
way
to
facilitate
the
creation
of
a
dynamic
downtown
environment
and,
as
it
relates
to
Boston
quarter.
Having
a
grocer
on
the
ground
floor
with
a
direct
connection
to
the
mall
is
is
a
very
is
a
boon
to
the
the
County's
investor
in
the
mall.
S
It
has
struggled
in
recent
years,
but
this
is
a
way
that
can
generate
foot
traffic
and
serve
residents
and
workers
in
the
mall
and
in
nearby
Office
Buildings
above
the
mall
or
above
the
grocer,
both
literally
and
figuratively,
there's
a
multi-family
building
that
is
being
proposed
and
that
will
fulfill
the
Boston
sector
plan's
goal
of
having
a
mix
of
uses
that
will
drive
the
demand
for
the
restaurants
and
retailers,
both
both
in
the
mall
and
in
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
So
on
our
end
at
least,
we
are
also
very
excited
about
this
opportunity.
S
As
Ms
Badger
mentioned,
we
have
had
several
discussions
with
Brookfield
the
mall
owner,
and
we
have
found
a
mutually
acceptable
way
to
create
what
we
believe
to
be
a
meaningful
Place,
making
ground
floor
connection
interior
to
the
mall.
It
will
be
enhanced
with
special
lighting
and
Planters
and
seating
to
create
a
gathering
space
at
the
mall's,
Western
Terminus
and
then
in
response
to
additional
conversations
we
held
with
the
owner.
S
We
have
agreed
to
commission
an
art
piece
for
the
floors
above
the
grocery
store
that
would
have
sort
of
a
similar
dialogue
and
Counterpoint
to
the
Boston
chandelier
that
exists
at
the
Eastern
end
of
the
shopping
mall
of
Chief
concern.
We
have
heard
a
consistent
refrain
from
the
beginning
that
we
should
do
what
we
can.
However,
we
can
to
connect
both
sides
of
North
Glebe
Road
to
Green
it
to
not
have
the
road
act
as
a
barrier.
I
think
we
all
know
that
fundamentally
there's
very
little.
S
We
can
do
to
narrow
Glebe
Road,
just
given
VDOT
requirements,
but
what
we
can
do
is
give
people
a
reason
to
actually
want
to
cross
Glebe
and
once
they've
done
so
to
do
so.
All
the
way
up
to
Wilson
in
a
safe
and
effective
amount
as
possible.
So
what
does
that?
Look
like
from
a
land
use
perspective?
Well,
I
think
from
our
end,
it
means
introducing
a
viable
grocery
use
as
an
anchor
to
the
mall.
S
It
includes
new
retail
space
as
well
to
activate
what
is
today
a
blank
wall
and
to
line
this
with
retail
and
Retail
equivalent
uses
from
a
transportation
perspective.
This
includes
things
like
eliminating
pinch
points
around
the
site,
providing
more
generous
sidewalks
with
shade
opportunities,
intersection
safety,
improvements
and
Signal
modifications,
and
so
once
you
know,
this
is
the
proposed
retail
space
right
at
the
corner
of
the
alley
and
Glebe
Road.
You
will
now
have
bookends
on
both
ends
of
the
alley
for
retail,
and
that
will
correspond
with
what
is
directly
across
Glebe
Road.
S
The
grocer
has
been
very
candid
and
I
think
flexible
on
our
end
and
they've
told
us
from
the
beginning
that,
in
order
for
the
Macy's
site
to
work
for
their
business,
they
desired
a
left
turn
lane
into
the
site
from
North
Glebe
Road.
This
grocer
has
Decades
of
experience
in
urban
configurations
all
across
the
country,
including
DC
and
Manhattan,
and
their
design
comments
to
us
were
purely
based
on
lessons
that
they
have
learned
in
operating
their
stores
over
those
decades
and
their
desires,
which
would
be
shared
with
pretty
much
any
large
format.
S
A
balance
simply
has
to
be
achieved
that
addresses
their
desires
while
addressing
the
community's
planning
expectations,
and
so
we've
tried
to
strike
a
balanced
income,
but
it
can't
just
be
a
left
turn
lane
right.
It
has
to
be
more
than
just
that,
so
in
coordination
with
Des
staff
over
the
last
several
months.
The
agreed
upon
final
design,
as
Ms
Badger
mentioned,
has
a
variety
of
pedestrian
safety.
S
Modifications
to
the
intersection
which
are
shown
here
and
Miss
Badger
mentioned
them,
but
these
enhancements
will
make
it
safer
for
pedestrian,
Crossings
and
I
think
presents
a
very
balanced
outcome,
given
all
the
various
multimodal
Transportation
elements
in
the
area,
but
it
also
has
the
benefit
of
giving
the
gross
or
Comfort
to
invest
in
this
site,
stitching
together
a
complete
community
in
this
area,
though
imparts
more
than
just
crossing
Glebe,
you
have
to
make
it
all
the
way
up
to
Wilson
right,
and
so
we
are
seeking
to
convert
the
typology
of
the
alley
from
what
is
shown
here
into
a
much
more
gracious,
attractive
and
safe
experience,
while
still
allowing
the
alley
to
serve
as
the
Workhorse
for
the
building
in
terms
of
loading
and
access
and
that's
the
way
it
is
in
the
MTP
is
what
Ali
should
serve
and
that's
what
this
is.
S
But
at
the
same
time,
we've
recognized
that
this
is
an
important
pedestrian
connection
as
well.
So
we
propose
to
enhance
the
space
and
turn
it
into
a
curbless
environment.
That's
punctuated
by
lit
bollards
and
green
wall,
plantings,
biophilic
elements
and
seating
areas.
You
know
pavers
and
overhead
catenary
lighting
to
bring
the
experience
back
down
to
The
Pedestrian
realm.
We
have
purposely
designed
the
alley
as
well
to
reduce
the
potential
for
cut
through
traffic
and
for
speeding
and
this
type
of
condition
that
we
are
proposing.
S
General
results
in
vehicles
that
are
traveling
at
very
safe
speeds
and
I
think
works
well
in
other
Enviro
garments.
We
looked
all
across.
You
know
prominent
examples
across
the
country
from
Chicago
to
New
York.
We
found
some
here
at
the
Wharf
that
worked
particularly
well
and
are
representative
of
the
type
of
environment
that
we
would
be
proposing
here
and
that's
what's
shown
on.
The
screen.
S
Staff
in
the
community
also
challenged
us
to
reuse
existing
infrastructure
wherever
possible
as
a
way
to
disperse
vehicle
trips
and
also
mitigate
some
of
the
impacts
of
new
construction
on
our
carbon
emissions,
and
that
has
naturally
led
us
to
form
Partnerships
with
our
adjacent
owner,
including
Brookfield,
which
is
the
owner
of
the
mall
and
the
point
office.
Building
to
the
West.
S
All
three
owners
want
this
project
to
succeed
and
what
is
on
the
screen
is
our
shared
infrastructure
approach,
and
so
we
can
go
through
those
if
you
would
like,
as
staff
mentioned,
housing
affordability
is
figured
prominently
into
our
overall
approach.
There
are
four
components.
The
first
is
a
1.5
million
ahif
contribution.
We
are
also
preserving
as
Mr
Badger
mentioned,
118
units
of
the
Haven
and
that
meets
the
County's
stated
goal
of
retaining
100
of
the
approximately
6
200
market
rate,
affordable
units
on
the
Columbia
Pike
Corridor.
S
We
also
heard
from
the
community
that
there's
an
interest
in
seeing
some
level
of
affordable
housing
on
the
Macy's
site.
So
in
response
we
are
providing
a
two-bedroom
committed,
affordable
unit
at
the
60
Ami
level,
as
well
as
11
Workforce
units
of
the
80
Ami
level,
at
the
Macy
site
and
for
those
11
Workforce
units
we
are
not
receiving
any
Community
benefit
credit.
Those
are
simply
Above
and
Beyond
in
response
to
what
we
heard
from
the
community,
we're
also
making
use,
as
Mr
matusek
said,
of
the
County's
TDR
policy.
S
As
many
of
you
all
know,
the
ability
to
transfer
development
rights
in
the
Columbia,
Pike
Corridor
and
those
policies
have
been
in
place
for
many
years.
This
is
the
first
time
that
it's
being
attempted
and
we're
very
proud
of
that,
and
alongside
that,
we
will
be
permanently
preserving
a
notable
site.
That's
listed
on
the
HRI,
we
have
gone
back
and
forth
a
lot
with
staff
over
building
sustainability.
I
know
that
a
representative
from
c2e2
is
here
this
evening.
S
We
can
speak
to
that
as
well
and
in
the
interest
of
time,
Mr
chairman
I'd
actually
like
to
recognize
Sophie
Marshall
Horton
from
futuregreen
She's,
our
landscape
designer
just
to
walk
through
kind
of
the
ground,
plane
elements
and
Landscape
approach,
because
it
is
inextricably
linked
to
the
architecture
of
the
amenities
and
I
think
the
overall
Ambiance
of
the
project.
So
Sophie
are
you
available.
B
Can
and
just
so
you're
aware
of
your
the
the
presentations
at
four
minutes
left.
T
Designed
for
the
project
more
specifically,
to
give
a
sense
of
the
overall
Greening
approach
for
the
site,
so
in
general,
we'll
be
implementing
a
layered,
varied
landscape,
Approach
at
different
levels
of
the
building
to
create
a
continuous
green
tapestry
from
the
sidewalk
level
up
to
the
top
roof,
and
then
all
areas.
T
These
green
zones
will
be
supported
by
a
thorough
maintenance
schedule
and
drip
irrigation
to
really
ensure
a
healthy,
robust
plant
palette
in
all
seasons,
and
it's
incredibly
important
to
us
to
include
plants
native
to
the
Chesapeake
Bay
Watershed
that
serve
populations
of
local
pollinators
at
every
possible
opportunity
and
we're
particularly
cognizant
of
the
the
need
to
incorporate
a
sepia's,
syriaca
or
common
milkweed
to
support
monarch
butterflies.
T
So
next
page,
so
starting
just
on
the
ground
level
along
Glebe
Road
we'll
have
five
new
Street
trees,
including
American
Linden
and
Scarlet
Oak,
both
of
which
have
striking
fall.
Color
and
high
Wildlife
value
planted
within
very
generous
beds.
That
will
include
a
diverse
array
of
perennial
and
shrub
plantings
indigenous
to
the
region,
and
we
also
have
a
built-in
Timber
bench
at
the
bus:
stop
with
bike
racks
and
decorative
planted
pots.
T
At
the
building
entrances
and
then
turning
the
corner
into
the
alley,
as
Amber
mentioned,
where
the
parade
of
the
vehicular
Zone
will
ramp
up
to
meet
the
level
of
the
sidewalk,
we'll
have
a
row
of
bollards
on
each
side
and
then
a
transition
in
the
color
and
texture
of
the
paving
to
safely
indicate
the
six
foot
clear
pedestrian
zones
and
then
Vine
trellises
along
the
grocery
wall
and
built-in
Planters
will
add
some
Lush
Greenery
to
that
experience
and
then
down
Wilson
Boulevard
we'll
have
a
number
of
Cafe
tables
and
planted
pots
along
the
building
to
help
create
this
kind
of
indoor
outdoor
condition
for
the
grocer,
as
well
as
some
other
new
native
Street
trees,
Scarlet
Oak
and
black
gum
and
we'll
have
some
more
built-in
Timber
benches
for
seating
and
bike
racks
and
I
know.
T
There
had
been
a
path
comment
about
the
curved
bench
and
sidewalk
transition
down
in
the
lower
right
corner
there,
and
we're
currently
studying
how
that
circulation
can
be
adjusted
for
the
best
pedestrian
experience
and
then
up.
At
the
third
floor
plan.
North.
On
the
Alley
side,
we
removed
some
of
the
previously
occupiable
Gathering
spaces
and
replace
those
with
large
planting
zones,
which
will
enable
us
to
create
some
really
interesting,
topographical
moments
with
shrubs
and
trees
that
are
all
visible
from
the
street
level
and
then
on
the
mall
side
of
the
third
floor.
T
We'll
have
a
number
of
program
areas,
including
flexible
lawn
and
kitchen
stations
for
residents
and
the
flexible
outdoor
bar
and
zone
for
yoga
and
other
events,
and
then
on
the
upper
Penthouse
roof.
All
mechanical
fencing
will
be
planted
with
vines
to
create
vertical
Greening,
and
these
architectural
Arbor
structures
on
either
side
will
also
support.
Lush
vines
that
will
be
observable
from
the
sidewalk
and
amenity
spaces
on
this
Terrace
will
include
a
pool
deck
seating,
nooks
and
garden
spaces
and
Outdoor
Dog,
Run
group,
kitchen
station
and
flexible
workspace
next
slide.
I.
S
Think
we're
winding
down
Sophie
we
may
want
to
in
the
interest
of
time
Mr
chairman
just
conclude
and
I'll
just
say
that
you
know
with
an
amazing
site
like
this,
you
have
to
be
flexible
in
unlocking
the
potential
of
the
site.
It's
not
been
easy.
We've
been
very
proud
of
the
evolution,
the
ability
to
work
with
the
anchor
work
with
our
adjacent
owners
work
with
staff.
It
really
has
been
a
pleasure.
It's
been
a
journey
and
we're
excited
to
be
here
tonight.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
Thank.
B
You
very
much
that
concludes
the
presentations
portion
of
this
item.
I
believe
that
we
have
at
least
one
virtual
public
speaker.
Let
me
ask
what
where
we
are
at
with
public
speakers
so
far,
we.
B
That
organization
c2e2,
yes,
okay,
so
it
doesn't
change
anything
we'll
do
we'll
go
to
the
virtual
public
speaker,
individual
first
and
then
we'll
use
c2e2
as
our
way
of
transitioning
to
our
commission
reports.
Thank
you.
U
Hello,
do
you
hear
me,
can
you
hear
me
yeah?
Okay,
thank
you
about.
The
only
good
thing
about
this
is
that
the
Act
was
treating
their
common
milk.
We
describe.
This
is
not
the
sariaka
there.
U
That's
nice
to
hear,
however,
I,
ask
you
that
you
recommend
the
County
Board
not
approve
the
Sci-Fi
amendment
to
try
to
constructive
excuse,
Residential
Building,
the
Boston
Mason
site,
the
transfer
of
density
Tad
are
from
The
Haven,
Apartments
Macy's
and
the
designation
of
Haven
there's
a
Conservation
Area
the
Macy's
side
planet
and
the
president
to
designate
The
Haven
is
concentration
and
the
TDI
have
a
number
of
defects.
Please
please
read
my
from
I've
written
comments
because
I've
done
this
Jesus
Christ,
which
I
can't
do
in
three
minutes:
no,
never
neighborhood.
U
So
she
has
expressed
support
for
the
site
plan.
The
designation
of
the
conversation
or
the
the
the
Arlington
middle
civic
association
contains
the
Haven
to
express
this
opposition
to
the
TBR
and
the
presentation
of
the
Haven.
No
County
Board
advisory
commissions
presently
support
the
site
plan,
designation
of
the
conversation
or
the
gdr.
The
Transportation
Commission
recommended
the
County
Board
of
defer
action
on
the
site
plan.
The
basic
the
project
will
added
left
turn
lane
degree
wrote
endangering
pedestrians
can
also
into
the
street.
The
applicants
address
this,
but
it's
not
satisfactory.
U
As
I
said,
such
a
condition
says.
The
project
will
also
place
a
needless
foot
balance
in
the
Wilson
Boulevard
and
Glade
board
sidewalks,
thus
obstructing
pedestrian
traffic
so
and
cyclists,
and
instruct
the
creating
this
conflicts.
There's
no
reason
to
follow
us
in
the
middle
of
a
sidewalk.
It
doesn't
make
any
sense.
U
Hlib
members
stated
that
the
Haven
did
not
have
enough
historical
importance
to
measure
preservation,
while
the
person
Macy's
project
will
destroying
the
remnants
of
the
park
in
the
shopping
center.
You
don't
you
don't
get
preservation
credits
with
this.
This
growing
part
of
a
starkly
significant
thing,
if
that's
in
the
guidelines
for
the
whole
the
whole
project
for
the
whole
guidelines,
the
HIV
did
not
take
any
votes
on
the
Mesa
side
plan,
the
presidential
even
or
the
TDR.
U
The
conservation
area
is
too
small
as
a
it
does
not
include
the
nearby
Monterey
Apartments,
which
is
part
of
the
same
development
as
a
Haven.
It
makes
no
sense
to
me
to
leave
out
half
of
the
other
area.
That's
about
half
of
the
continuation
it
was
left
out.
Dtdl
will
change
all
118
of
the
Haven
Department
from
market
rate,
affordable
housing
marks
to
community,
affordable
housing
units
calves.
U
After
three
years,
the
property
owner
will
evict
all
remaining
tenants
which
are
presently
about
30
percent
of
the
of
the
number
of
people
whose
incomes
are
too
high
to
qualify
for
cash.
As
the
county
has
a
shortage
of
marks.
This
may
create
a
hardship
for
those
tenants
who
happen
to
be
not
the
eligible
the
calves.
This
is
really
bad.
The
Boston
Macy
State
Building
will
contain
533
residential
units.
Only
2
percent
12
of
these
will
be
calves.
None
will
be
marks
which
the
captain
needs.
U
That's
where
the
Liberty
needle
Ali
studies
all
about
this
is
too
small
for
building
air
Metro
Station
the
crowd.
The
ground
level
of
the
Macy's
site
will
contain
no
trees
or
other
plants
except
the
trees,
Francis
Wilsonville
Library,
Road
sidewalks
and
a
few
Planters
in
the
alley.
Some
plants
May
climb
up
in
front
of
the
grocery
store,
but
since
our
windows
won't
be
many,
a
few
questions.
B
U
B
We
will
thank
you.
We
will
now
go
to
I
believe
that
we
are
joined,
am
I,
correct,
Ms
Martin,
with
majdi
shimali
from
c2e2.
Are
you
with
us
in
person
or
virtually
I'm.
V
Good
evening,
commission
members,
thank
you
for
letting
me
speak
tonight.
The
c2e2
has
submitted
a
letter
to
the
commit
to
to
the
commission
to
the
county
on
this
topic,
and
in
that
we
have
added
our
detail
criteria
for
how
we
measure
or
how
we
assess
new
new
site
plans.
So
I
won't
be
going
in
those
in
detail.
V
But
I
do
want
to
take
a
few
minutes
to
highlight
a
few
items
that
that
are
in
our
findings
and
are
that
are
in
our
letter,
So,
based
on
a
review
based
on
the
commission's
review
of
the
documentation
that
was
submitted
by
the
Apple
account.
V
We
do
agree
that
the
the
submittal
meets
the
green
building,
the
minimum
of
the
Green
Building
incentive
program,
but
we
disagree
on
the
you
know:
the
cep
targets
the
community
energy
plan,
R
rating,
as
you
will
see,
if
you,
if
you
have
a
moment
to
look
at
it,
is
there
57,
and
this
is
relatively
low
compared
to
other
sites.
We
have
been
evaluating
and
we
do
feel
that
the
applicant
can
can
do
better
in
this
area.
V
The
ability
of
Arlington
County
to
meet
the
the
cep
targets
which
are
not
too
far
away
and
certainly
within
the
lifetime
of
this
building,
depend
greatly
on
on
four
factors,
making
the
building
highly
efficient,
making
it
electric
or
electric
ready
to
the
extent
possible
the
the
use
of
renewable
energy
and
minimizing
the
total
carbon
footprint.
V
The
project
is
targeting
lead
gold
rating.
We
believe
that
lead
Platinum
is
possible
and
we
would
urge
that
the
applicant
explore
options
to
achieve
zero
carbon
certification,
if
not
current,
if
not
immediately,
but
certainly
build
a
design
that
that
allows
that,
for
that,
in
this
sure
the
applicant
has
committed
to
20
efficiency
over
ashrae
Baseline.
We
are
seeing
the
25
is
becoming
more
commonplace
and
certainly
achievable,
and
we
would
recommend
that
they
target
the
25
over
Baseline
on
this
project.
V
In
terms
of
electrification
of
systems.
We
see
that
there
is
a
locking
in
of
of
fossil
fuels
to
the
extent
possible.
We
would
urge
that
electrification
we
used
and
we're
not
possible
designs
to
consider
moving
to
electrification
when
it
does
become
possible.
V
The
the
county
energy
plan
goals
are
not
achievable
if
we
lock
into
fossil
fuels,
especially
on
new
buildings,
this
close
to
our
targets
in
terms
of
Eva
Chargers
and
EV
parking
spots
ready.
This
is
we
commend
the
applicant
for
their
10
and
50
respectively,
designation
of
of
these
parking
slots.
Certainly,
this
is
a
good
sign
to
see.
V
We
do
see
that
the
the
applicant
is
using
some
renewable
electricity
and
but
would
also
recommend
that
they
consider
on-site
storage
or
or
Provisions
for
a
future
on-site
storage,
where
possible,
I
think
on
the
other
issues,
other
team,
other
you
know,
commentators
have
commented
so
I
will
leave
it
at
that,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
letting
us
speak
tonight.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Shimali.
Are
there
any
other
commissions
who
are
here
or
represented
this
evening?
So
I
will
then
refer
us
to
for
the
Transportation
Commission
report.
I
will
refer
you
to
the
written
report
that
commissioner,
let
Tommy
circulated
on
Friday
in
advance
of
tonight's
meeting,
with
the
follow-up
on
Sunday
and
then
I
will
go
to.
Commissioner.
Tell
me
for
anything
that
you
wish
to
add
to
that
report.
K
Right,
thank
you
Mr
chair,
as
mentioned
earlier,
the
Transportation
Commission
did
vote
to
defer
and
that
was
solely
based
on
the
7th
Street
North
7th
Street,
Glebe
Road
intersection
and
specifically
the
left
turn
lane.
The
addition
up
a
left
turn
lane
southbound.
That
was
the
sole
reason
for
the
deferral.
K
Otherwise,
the
Transportation
Commission
looked
at
all
of
the
other
Transportation
aspects
of
this
this
proposal
and
was
satisfied
with
all
of
them,
including
parking
ratios,
bicycle
parking,
cargo
bike
locations,
the
the
turn
and
traffic
movements
within
the
alley,
the
loading
dock
access
at
hours,
for
both
the
store
and
for
the
the
residents
access
to
the
garages.
All
of
those
things
were
extensively
discussed
and
passed
muster
as
being
acceptable.
K
It
was
simply
that
the
the
seventh
North
7th
Street
leap,
Road
intersection,
the
Transportation
Commission,
wanted
that
to
be
more
more
pedestrian
friendly,
that
the
addition
of
that
left
turn
lane
really
just
widens
Glee
road,
which
is,
we
all
know,
has
been
a
problem
before
us
for
quite
a
while.
So
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
further
questions
about
how
Transportation
Commission
looked
at
this.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner.
I
want
to
tell
me,
and
I
will
also
refer
us
to
the
written
reports,
written
remarks
or
written
comments
from
commissioner
Hughes
on
behalf
of
the
form-based
code
area.
Working
group
that
were
circulated
in
advance
of
the
meeting
and
I
will
then
also
refer
I'll
call
on
commissioner
Hughes
in
case
there's
anything
you
wish
to
add
to
those
remarks.
W
Foreign
no
I
do
do
want
to
just
note
that
I
appreciate
giving
staff
being
here.
The
three
meetings
that
Mr
matusek
went
through
walking
everyone
through
the
complications
that
are
exceptionally
present
with
a
TDR
application,
and
we
had
a
tremendous
amount
of
discussion
at
the
OG.
This
did
take
up
three
meetings.
I
went
back
Matt
to
actually
go.
W
Listen
to
the
June
meeting
last
night
to
make
sure
I
represented
everyone
right
and
I
will
simply
say
that
we
did
progress
in
this
application
from
the
applicant
side
from
what
they
brought
forward
and
the
ogs.
What
I
will
we'll
call
lukewarm
acceptance
of
The
Proposal
was
conditioned
heavily
on
at
the
time
the
only
Workforce
housing
being
proposed
at
the
Boston
site,
but
since
then
it
appears
at
least
one
committed,
affordable
being
brought
forward
at
the
Boston
site.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Hughes,
in
the
interest
of
time,
I
think
I
want
to
go
to
the
sprc
report.
First,
mindful
of
the
fact
that
we
have
an
lrpc
report
that
we
can
call
upon,
should
we
have
any
questions
that
are
broader
and
and
higher
level.
So,
commissioner,
lent
tell
me
back
to
you.
K
Thank
you,
chair,
Weir,
I,
don't
think
I
really
will
read
through
the
entire
report.
I
did
circulate
that
earlier,
so
I
think
people
should
be
familiar
with
it.
K
I
will
go
to
the
outstanding
issues,
points
of
discussion
that
I
have
listed
down
here
and
if
anybody
wants
to
add
anything,
certainly
feel
free
to
do
so.
I
have
not
gotten
any
responses
on
this
from
anybody
at
this
to
add
anything.
Since
I
sent
this
report
in
site
access
and
transportation,
it's
really
the
biggest
question
continues
to
be
the
the
intersection
of
Glebe,
Road
and
North
7th
Street
be
designed
to
be
more
pedestrian
friendly
for
open
space.
K
Are
the
alleys
biophilic
elements
adequate
and
able
to
be
maintained
and
I
think
we
can
also
add
whether
the
the
the
Green
Landscaping
on
the
top
of
the
Podium
at
the
second
level
is
that
visible
from
the
street
architecture
is
the
connection
to
the
mall
appropriately
designed
that
has
been
added
and
all
the
street
level
facades
appropriately
activated.
They
have
changed
dramatically
from
the
very
first
proposals.
I,
certainly
acknowledge.
K
There's
we've
come
a
long
way
in
this
process,
and
the
project
has
improved
tremendously
over
the
meetings
that
we've
that
we
held
construction
issues.
That
is
still
a
big
one.
Can
The
Pedestrian
passageways
along
the
site,
be
maintained
during
construction.
These
sidewalks
are
very
heavily
used
and,
of
course,
we
don't
want
to
have
people
having
to
cross
Glebe
Road.
If
they
don't
need
to.
K
Can
we
keep
those
sidewalks
open
during
construction
or
at
least
have
some
sort
of
pedestrian
passage
going
along
there,
and
that
would
we
have
been
assured
by
the
way
that
the
alley
will
stay
open
during
construction,
because
that's
the
only
access
to
the
garage
for
the
office
building
there,
and
that
also
implies
a
pedestrian
passage,
will
have
to
go
there.
That's
heavily
used
by
the
neighborhoods
to
get
to
the
Metro,
so
that
will
be
there.
K
K
You
know
it's
it,
it's
not
perfect,
but
it
is
much
much
better
and
it
does
meet
most
of
most
of
pretty
much
everything
that
that
the
Boston
sector
plan
does
require
for
a
site.
So
if
anybody
has
any
other
things
to
add
to
this,
we
can
certainly
do
that,
but
I
think
that's
pretty
much.
What
the
the
report
is.
B
So,
thank
you.
The
discussion
then
now
belongs
with
the
commission.
Commissioner,
tell
me
if
I've
understood
you
correctly,
we
are
looking
at
four
different
topics.
I
will
recite
them
one
more
time
and
then
open
the
floor
to
any
additional
topics
that
Commissioners
wish
to
discuss
and
again,
once
we
have
our
list
of
topics,
we
will
start,
we
will
start
going
through
them.
One
by
one.
First
is
site
access
and
transportation.
Second
is
open.
Space,
third
is
architecture,
and
fourth
is
construction
issues.
B
B
Potentially,
that's
what
I
do?
That's
that's.
What
I
was
okay
and
sort
of
anticipating
might
happen.
Hence
my
extremely
cryptic
response,
commissioner,
commissioner
giren
any
of
anything
else.
G
My
only
point
on
this
was
I
wanted
to
follow
up
about
the
pickup
and
drop-off
for
people
who
might
be
using
Uber
or
Lyft,
even
though
this
is
pedestrian
oriented.
This
came
up
in
asprc
and
I
wanted
to
just
follow
up
that
conversation.
But
commissioner,
then
Tommy
knows
this.
Thank
you
so.
B
I
I
think
that
we'll
make
sure
to
to
call
on
you
for
that
under
site
plan
or
site
access
and
transportation
now,
including
pickup
and
drop
off,
which
is
where
we
are
going
to
start.
B
I
I
went
to
mindful
of
of
the
fact
that
there
are
10
of
us
and
five
topics
and
that
it
is
already
8
45
I,
I,
wanna
I
sort
of
telegraphed
this
earlier
I
want
to
encourage
everyone
to
we're
going
to
try
to
follow
the
county
boards
lead
for
how
they
do
the
their
discussion
that
this,
which
is
that
each
person
gets
a
gets
their
their
their
time
at
the
floor
once
for
each
of
the
four
topics
for
each
of
the
topics
that
are
covered.
B
And
you
know
if,
if
there
are
follow-up,
questions
and
people
need
to
interject,
you
know
we
I'll
certainly
try
to
accommodate
that
as
best
as
I'm
able
to
in
the
interest
of
keeping
you
know
the
discussion
moving
along
I
don't
want
to
call
it
a
round
robin,
although
functionally
that's
kind
of
what
it
is.
It's
just
sort
of
more
around
Robin
and
the
order
in
which
people
choose
to
seek
to
be
recognized
without
any
questions
or
concerns
about
that.
L
Thank
you,
I
just
had
a
quick
question
for
I
guess
both
staff
and
the
applicant.
The
left-hand
turn
lane
I
know
has
was
something
that
was
a
concern
throughout
the
entire
project.
There's
now
a
condition
to
assess
the
safety
and
and
possibly
Implement
mitigations,
if
needed,
so
I
was
wondering
kind
of
what
would
that
look
like
once
everything's
already
built?
What
kind
of
mitigations
could
there
be
if
there
were
pedestrian
safety
issues
and
to
the
applicant?
What
does
your
agreement
look
like
with
this
grocer?
F
I
just
wanted
to
align
myself
with
commissioner
Peterson's
comments
as
well.
I
know
that
we
are
taking
few
minutes
here
so.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Patel
for
breaking
my
model,
not
not
two
minutes
in.
S
Chair,
where
I
might
defer
to
to
Mr
Sullen,
first
and
I,
neglected
to
express
my
our
side's
appreciation
to
Mr
sullen's
work
on
this
I
think
he
more
than
anyone
in
Des
is
really
been
influential
on
this
and
and
helped
sort
of
steer
this
to
a
point
where
a
staff
could
support
it.
So
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
foreign.
X
With
the
Department
of
Environmental
Services,
we
we
put
a
condition
in
the
draft
site
plan
staff
report
that
is
based
on
a
condition
that
we
wrote
for
the
waycroft
across
the
street,
because
we
anticipated
similar
conflicts
at
the
exit
to
that
site
on
Glebe
Road,
with
pedestrians
and
vehicles
and
in
this
site
we
anticipate
that
there
could
potentially
be
conflicts
between
vehicles
and
pedestrians
between
vehicles
and
vehicles
and
that
there
could
also
be
potential
for
queuing
or
backups
at
the
left
turn
at
the
intersection
for
southbound
traffic.
X
So
the
the
mitigation
measures
are
undefined
because
we
do
not
know
what
types
of
incidents
could
potentially
occur,
whether
they
could
be,
as
I
said,
unsafe
cueing,
which
could
be
mitigated
by
restricting
the
left
turn.
X
X
We
are
already
restricting
those
vehicles
and
there
was
a
recommendation
at
the
Transportation
Commission
that
we
further
restrict
those
movements
to
not
allow
any
right
turns
on
red
at
any
of
the
intersections
at
any
of
the
legs
of
the
intersection,
and
that
is
a
movement
that
we
will
probably
take
under
further
consideration.
X
There
may
be
further
geometric
changes
that
are
made,
so
it's
operational.
It's
geometric
and
I
cannot
give
you
anything
further,
but
we
would
use
every
tool
in
our
Arsenal
to
ensure
both
primarily
the
safety
of
the
intersection
and
the
smooth
operation.
So
our
primary
concern
is
safety.
Secondary
is
operations
and
that
study
would
initiate
I.
Believe
we
said,
I
don't
have.
X
I
can
look,
but
is
we?
We
do
intend
that
that
the
study
would
would
commence
once
the
grocery
store
is
in
operation,
so
that
we
could
observe
how
the
grocery
store
traffic
is
functioning,
because
that
is
the
primary
generator
of
the
type
of
traffic
that
we're
concerned
about
I,
hope
that
answers
your
question
and
if
the
applicant
has
anything
further
to
add
Mr.
S
Chair
I
mean
that
was
a
pretty
a
good
answer:
you're
sufficient
I'm,
not
sure.
If
we
have
anything
more
to
add
you
know
the
specific
mitigation
measures
will
become
known
over
time,
we'll
have
to
work
with
staff,
submit
studies
and
and
come
up
with
the
mitigation
measures
for
reducing
any
unsafe
conditions.
Foreign.
B
L
Just
decision
about,
if
you're
grocer,
the
mitigations
is
that
going
to
invalidate
the
contract
or
they'll
just
have
to
deal
with
it.
It's.
Y
What
I
can
say
is
that
this
grocer-
as
you
heard
Andrew
mentioned
at
the
beginning,
has
been
trying
for
nine
years
with
us
to
find
a
home
in
Boston
really
really
hard
and
before
that
on
their
own,
and
they
have,
as
we've
worked
through
this
process
for
the
last
two
years,
have
been
insanely
flexible.
As
we've
been
improving
the
project
we've
shrunk,
their
store,
we've
changed
their
ramps.
We've
taken
away
their
parking,
we've
made
inefficient
back
of
house.
Y
We
changed
their
loading,
we've
done
eight
or
nine
things
that
took
all
sorts
of
reworking
and
they've
stuck
with
us
and
have
been
great
kind
of
reasonable
Partners
throughout
so
I'm,
confident
that
if
there's
a
reasonable
restriction
that
works
for
their
business
and
they
can
actually
agree
to
it
and
have
a
good
business
that
they'll
do
it.
Thank
you.
B
E
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
question
for
the
applicant
about
this
left
turn
at
sprc
and-
and
tonight
you
mentioned
you
know,
as
was
just
articulated
the
desire
to
have
this.
This
access
I'm
wondering,
though
I
want
to
make
sure
I
confirm
that
you,
you
didn't
look
at
access
without
the
left
turn
that
the
access
to
the
site
is
sufficient
right
in
right
out
from
both
Wilson
and
Glebe
Road.
E
For
this
for
this
tenant,
that's
correct
right!
You
didn't
look
at
it,
absent
that
Mr
Van
Pelt.
Z
We
well
I
think
what
we
we
did
do
is
we
looked
at
the
grocer
had
its
immediate
needs
in
terms
of
how
it
could
be
viable
at
this
site
from
an
access
standpoint
and
from
they
require
the
left,
turn
and
I
know
a
transmission
commission.
We
showed
a
figure
about
how
the
access
is
challenged,
because
there
is
only
write
in
right
out
access
today
from
Wilson
and
they
need
the
left
turn
to
be
to
see
this
site
is
viable.
So,
therefore,
our
traffic
study
didn't
even
look
at
that
from
a
capacity
standpoint.
Z
E
Z
E
Okay
and
Mr
selin
from
I
know
that
staff
has
come
around
I
think
to
this
with
some
mitigation,
but
staff
is
comfortable
with
where
we
are
with
the
left
turn
as
long
as
you
have
condition,
60
is
that
sort
of
where
staff
is.
X
We
spent
many
months
on
this
I
I
would
say
in
the
10
years
I've
been
here.
We
spent
more
time
on
this
Transportation
than
on
any
other.
We
had
myself
four
staff
from
traffic
engineering
and
operations
looking
at
this,
and
then
this
was
reviewed
by
the
director
of
traffic
engineering
and
operations
and
our
director
of
Transportation
himself
Dennis
Leach.
They
are
the
ones
who
ultimately
approved
the
64-page
memo
that
was
submitted,
justifying
essentially
the
left
turn.
X
Scenario
that
I
have
seen
in
the
time
that
I've
been
with
Arlington
County.
So
that's
as
much
assurance
that
I
can
give
to
you.
E
That's
helpful,
yeah
I,
guess
last
question
on
this.
If
I
might
and
I
know,
there's
bollards
along
Glebe
Road,
was
there
any
consideration
to
other
treatments
for
the
alley
or
to
ensure
that
folks
making
that
left
slow
down
we're
aware
that
they're
kind
of
Crossing
pedestrians.
Z
One
of
the
things
that
we
did
excuse
me
one
of
the
things
that
we
are
doing
and
we
looked
very
carefully
at
we
looked
at
very
carefully
at
the
entire
intersection
and
I
think
there's
a
whole
whole
kit
of
Parts.
If
you
will
different
things
that
we're
going
to
do
to
that
intersection
to
make
it
better
for
pedestrians,
but
that
driveway
itself
will
be
designed
as
a
with
with
almost
like
a
street.
Z
So,
as
you
enter
the
alley,
those
put
those
pedestrians
get
those
Clues
more
intuitively
and
then
there's
an
apron,
so
you
actually
will
have
to
slow
down
once
you
go
into
the
alley
so
from
a
stem
from
a
pedestrian
standpoint
in
the
alley
you've
taken
those
Vehicles
as
they
come
in
there's
they
have
to
slow
down,
and
that
was
a
concern
because
you're
coming
off
of
Glebe,
where
potentially
you
know,
potentially
higher
rates
of
speed
and
I.
Think
the
other
thing
that's
important.
Z
We
don't
have
that
image
I!
Guess
we
don't
have.
Are
we
showing
that
image?
Because
I
think
it's
helpful
to
see
that
image
yeah.
Z
Yeah,
so
this
this
driveway
coming
off
of
Glebe
is
designed
really
almost
as
a
street.
If
you
will
so
you're
gonna
have
curb
ramps
on
either
side
and
and
we're
starting
to
do
that
in
most
Urban
locations,
because
what
you
want
to
do
is
give
intuitive
Clues
to
the
pedestrians
that
they
have
to
obey.
Z
The
traffic
signal,
just
like
the
vehicles
have
to
pay
the
traffic
signal,
so
intuitively
less
likelihood
that
pedestrians
are
going
to
step
out
in
front
of
the
left
turning
Vehicles
that's
coming
into
the
state,
then,
when
the
vehicles
come
into
the
site,
you're
going
to
have
a
apron
that
will
go
up
to
the
flush,
curbless
condition
that
will
help
slow
Vehicles
down
as
they
come
in
so
to
help
from
a
safety
standpoint
once
those
Vehicles
enter
into
the
alley.
Z
The
other
thing
I,
think
it's
important
to
remind
us
all
is
is
that
those
left
turns
are
going
to
be
protected
movements,
so
the
left
turn
can
only
go
when
they
have
an
arrow
and
to
turn
left
and
the
pedestrians
are
going
to
have
a
do
not
walk
at
the
same
time.
Motors
are
not
going
to
be
left
up
to
making
a
judgment.
Call
of
I
have
a
sufficient
Gap
to
shoot
across
the
left
across
glebro
to
enter
into
the
driveway
when
maybe
a
pedestrian
is
crossing.
Z
E
B
Other
anyone
else
on
site
access
and
transportation.
Commissioner
sarley
and
then
commissioner
gear
and
I'm
going
to
just
you're
on
Deck,
because
I
know
you
would
have
wanted
to
talk
about
pick
up
and
drop
off
too
I'll.
AA
Make
a
very
quick
comment:
just
react
to
the
image
that
was
posted
if
the
sidewalk
could
remain
continuous
across
the
intersection,
so
that,
instead
of
ramping
down
to
the
street
level,
the
car
wraps
up
to
the
sidewalk
level,
and
that
would
enhance
the
slowing
down
process
as
you
enter.
The
lane
was
that
studied.
Z
Well,
so
what
we
have
found
in
practices
is
that
when
you
keep
a
sidewalk
flush,
when
there's
a
signal,
pedestrians
are
much
less
likely
to
obey
that
signal.
They
believe
that
they
have
the
right
of
way
so
you're
giving
conflicting
information
to
pedestrians
right
they.
They
believe
that
they
have
the
priority
if
the
sidewalk
stays
flush
and
they
don't
necessarily
obey
the
signal
head
by
putting
in
curb
ramps
and
that's
the
condition
that's
out
there
today,
but
it's
going
to
be
improved
and
with
what
we're
doing
enhanced
to
it
with
it
is.
Z
Is
that
you're
telling
intuitively
to
The
Pedestrian
that
they
realize
they
are
now
going
down
from
a
sidewalk
elevation
down
to
a
street
elevation
back
up,
and
it
gives
them
the
indication
that
they
need
to
pay
attention
to
the
pedestrian
signal
and
I'd
say
all
of
our
work
that
we're
doing
in
DC
now
they're
requiring
us
DDOT
is
requiring
us
to
design
them
that
way,
because
in
practice
we
have
found
that's
the
issue.
The
Glebe
side
is
different
than
the
Wilson
side.
AA
Z
Still
will
have,
we
will
still
have
the
apron
as
you
come
into
the
alley
which
will
actually
help
slow
those
Vehicles
down
once
they've
once
they've
entered
the
alley.
Maybe
that
doesn't
help
us
at
the
Crossing
itself,
but
remember
those
pedestrians
are
going
to
be
stopped
by
the
signal.
They
need
to
pay
attention
to
the
signal
and
stop
so
we've
managed
that
conflict
that
way,
and
so
between
the
two.
That's
the
we
believe.
That's
the
best
practice.
S
And
it
may
also
add
to
member
of
the
public
Dr
Byrne
had
mentioned
about
the
bollards
in
the
sidewalk.
We've
removed
the
bollards
on
the
Glebe
Road
Frontage,
but
because
there's
that
flush
condition
on
the
Wilson
Boulevard
Frontage,
we
think
it's
important
to
demarcate
for
pedestrians,
where
The
Pedestrian
Zone
ends
and
the
vehicular
Zone
begins.
We've
also
added
to
the
monitoring,
condition
or
proposed
to
have
the
monitoring
condition
with
a
left
turn
lane
to
monitor
pedestrian
safety
conflicts
in
the
alley
as
well.
So
that
was
a
proposal
that
we
made
to
staff.
G
Thank
you
Mr
chair,
so
my
question
follows
up
the
conversation
that
we
heard
in
the
sprc
meetings.
What
I'd
like
to
know
is
how
you
proposing,
even
if
just
initially,
to
accommodate
the
requests
that
we
heard
from
members
of
the
public,
noting
that
they
would
possibly
be
taking
uberlift
other
sort
of
ride,
share
to
and
from
the
grocery
store,
and
that
those
cars
are
not
going
to
want
to
have
to
pay
for
parking
they're.
G
G
Y
In
response
to
the
free
short-term
drop
off
inside
the
grocery
parking
spaces,
that's
really
really
easy
to
accommodate
the
grocery
has
the
same
interest
and
will
be
aligned
in
flexibility
of
creating
that.
To
be
honest
with
you,
that's
not
something.
We've
entirely
worked
through
the
details
on
with
the
grocery,
but
I'm
not
worried
about
it.
If
that's
something
that's
required
in
advance
of
an
approval,
we
can
certainly
do
that,
but
I
don't
foresee
that
being
an
issue
and
then
on
the
streets
a
little
more
complicated.
AB
So
so
at
grade
we
are
proposing.
Currently
there
are
three
parking
spaces
on
the
northwest
corner
of
the
site
and
we
are
proposing
to
convert
those
into
short-term
parking,
they're
directly
adjacent
to
the
grocery
entrance,
and
so
we
anticipate
that
that
would
serve
as
the
pickup
drop-off
area
for
a
very
short-term
package
delivery
and
other
Uber
or
Lyft
pickups
to
the
site.
G
Thank
you,
so
I
guess
I
would
defer
to
our
transportation
experts
for
the
best
way
to
handle
this
I
know
when
this
came
up
in
the
conversations
there
was
some
concern
that
those
sites
wouldn't
be
available.
I
know
it's
really
hard
to
monitor
on
Street,
short-term
parking
and
well.
We
would
love
to
see
everybody
walking
to
and
from
the
grocery
store.
I
think
the
reality
is,
as
people
get
older,
groceries
are
heavy
they're
a
little
bit
difficult
to
take
on
public
transit.
So
I
don't
know.
G
If
staff
would
like
to
win
on
this
or
any
of
our
any
of
my
colleagues,
who've
served
on
Transportation
Commission
or
even
if
we
have
a
TC
rep
here,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
we
did
address
it.
It
seemed
like
a
really
valid
issue
and
something
that
we're
likely
to
see
in
other
other
proposals
as
well.
So
thank
you.
X
Tennis
selling
again
from
Des
I,
do
recall
the
conversation
at
the
last
sprc
and,
as
I
recall,
there
was
a
request
for
a
covered
spot
for
pickup
and
drop-off,
and
that
seems
to
me
the
most
appropriately
done
on
the
interior
and,
as
the
applicant
has
indicated,
that
they
can
make
space
for
that
inside
the
garage
and
that
that
would
be
done
at
no
cost.
X
It
seems
that
that
would
probably
be
the
most
suitable
spot
for
that
and,
as
commissioner
Garen
indicated,
that
there's
no
certainty
of
availability
of
the
on-street
spaces
I'm
sure
that
a
spot
in
the
garage
can
be
made
available
for
those
spots,
whether
it
is
for
an
able-bodied
person
or
a
for
disabled
for
a
disabled
person.
I
believe
that
is
where
the
comment
was
generated
from
so
we'll
be
certain
that
that
is
attended
to
in
the
post
4.1,
because
on-street
spots
are
not
always
guaranteed.
As
a
commissioner
has
already
indicated,.
B
K
E
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
quick
questions
for
the
applicant
first.
Can
you
explain
the
rationale
regarding
the
second
story,
parking
garage?
Why
and
also
why
it
is
not
wrapped
with
active
uses
and
instead
has
the
the
grade.
S
The
trend
I'm
not
sure
if
you
want
to
handle
this
one,
but
this
is
something
that
we
looked
at
almost
from
the
very
beginning:
the
grocery
store
it's
standard
design.
It's
design
standards
usually
want
to
have
about
a
200
200
space
field
of
parking
on
a
single
level
that
is
immediately
proximate
to
the
store.
S
We
could
not
achieve
that
even
within
a
below
grade
setting
on
a
single
level
and
what
we
were
able
to
do
is
to
negotiate
with
the
grocery
store
operator
to
get
them
down
to
about
148
spaces
and
just
the
way
that
the
core
and
the
elevators
worked,
but
also
having
it
immediately
proximate.
It
worked
better
to
have
it
in
an
above
grade
condition.
What
we've
done
is
tried
to
wrap
it
with
louvers
and
glass
and
other
architectural
design,
detail
links
and
so
Sarah
I,
don't
know
if
there's
other
thoughts
that
you
might
have
on
them.
AB
Yes,
just
to
clarify
also,
we've
been
working
closely
with
the
point
office
building,
which
is
the
access
into
the
residential
parking
garage,
the
they
have
huge
difficulty
with
allowing
the
grocery
access
into
the
parking
garage
through
through
their
space,
because
it's
not
concordant
with
kind
of
the
typical
office
parking
hour.
AB
So
so,
certainly,
once
we
lose
the
ability
to
go
through
the
point
office
building
to
access
the
below
grade
parking
once
you
ramp
inside
of
kind
of
the
existing
building
envelope,
you
lose
parking
and
you
no
longer
have
the
ability
to
deliver
the
parking
spaces
on
one
level
of
of
parking
below
grade
foreign.
E
E
I
was
just
wondering
why
the
applicant
or
staff
didn't
ask
the
applicant
to
my
turn
to
staff
with
that
question:
wrap
it
with
what
would
look
to
be
an
active
use
so
glass?
Why?
Why
isn't
there
glass
there?
Why
is.
AB
So
we
do
have
a
combination
of
fretted,
glass
and
louvers,
so
so
we
do
have
existing
exhaust
and
ventilation
from
the
below
grade
parking
garage,
and
so
we
do
have
to
kind
of
maintain
the
Integrity
of
that
ventilation
when
we
kind
of
recast
and
reuse
that
garage.
So
we
already
had
kind
of
that
architectural
precedent
for
some
movers
just
to
accommodate
what
exists
there
today.
AB
So
the
resulting
architecture
on
Glebe,
Road
and
Wilson
Boulevard
to
the
maximum
extent
possible,
incorporates
fretted
glass,
bird
friendly
glass
as
kind
of
an
architectural
feature
on
those
facades,
but
also
acknowledges
kind
of
the
the
ventilation
required
from
the
below
freaking
garage.
So
we
have
the
integration
of
both
languages,
both
both
kind
of
louvers
and
the
threaded
glass.
So.
E
That's
helpful
so
then
two
quick
follow-up
questions.
So
then
are
you
unable
then,
to
vent
that
exhaust
higher
up
the
building
and
does
that
does
your
venting
there
or
your
your
need
to
vent
their
contribute
to
your
inability
to
meet
the
fenestration
requirements
on
Wilson
Boulevard.
AB
So
that
that
that's
correct,
so
if
you
look
at
the
design
and
the
podium
and
and
kind
of
the
way
that
Podium
projects,
the
existing
ventilation
kind
of,
is
at
that
third
floor
Podium
area
and
does
not
go
through
kind
of
the
the
main
building
core
to
to
to
the
penthouse,
just
as
a
function
of
of
where
it
exists
today,
so
we
were
trying
to
accommodate
that,
while
also
creating
a
Podium
that
had
a
diversity
of
plantings
right
to
create
that
kind
of
a
green
visual
core.
AB
And
so
yes,
we
were
kind
of
responding
to
the
existing
location.
Okay,.
E
Because
the
building
steps
back
and
you
aren't
able
to
carry
that
up,
okay,
that's
helpful
I
appreciate
that
I
will
say
that
it's
not
the
most
effective
above
grade
parking,
I've
seen
you're
supposed
to
not
know
it's
parking
and
everybody's
gonna
know
it's
parking,
so
I
understand
why
you're
doing
it,
but
it's
unfortunately,
not
a
great
execution
of
that.
But
I
appreciate
the
information.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Schroll
other
members
of
the
commission
on
architecture.
G
AB
Maybe
Sophie
can
respond
to
that
question.
The
landscape,
architect.
T
Sure
yeah,
so,
as
you
can
kind
of
see
in
this
rendering
on
the
third
floor
above
the
alleyway,
that
vegetation
is,
you
know
quite
close
and
and
very
visible
from
the
street
and
then
at
the
upper
roof
level
as
well.
T
G
Oh,
very
sorry
about
that.
I
just
noted
that
that's
what
it
looked
like
to
me
and
I
thanked
our
applicant
for
confirming
that
it
does
tend
to
be
visible.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
You
Christmas
hamburger.
A
P
Of
it,
I
wanted
to
have
a
sense
of
sort
of
how
that's
going
to
kind
of
develop
over
time
and
what
that's
sort
of
going
to
look
like
in
the
different
conditions
like
how
it's
going
to
start
looking.
What
it's
intended
to
sort
of
evolve
to.
What
the
time
frame
is
for
that
growth,
Evolution.
K
T
Yeah
and
that
that
vine
trellis
at
the
ground
floor
in
the
alleyway
would
be
anchored
in
a
planter,
so
we
would
have
perennials
as
well
as
fine
plant
days
kind
of
coming
from
that
level
and
then
grown
up
the
green
screen.
T
We
are
aware
that
that's
a
you
know
a
shady
spot:
it's
not
going
to
get
a
ton
of
sunlight,
so
we're
also
considering
the
use
of
grow
lights,
to
enhance
the
growth
of
the
vines
and
then
we'll
be
very
particular
in
the
species
selection
to
make
sure
that
those
are
our
shade,
tolerant
vines
that
will
really
thrive.
T
In
that
condition
and
we'll
you
know,
maintain
some
fall
color
and
winter
structure
as
well
and
could
be
a
combination
of
species
to
achieve
that
full
effect
and
those
Planters
will
will
be
irrigated
as
well.
T
Yes,
that
that
particular
image
is
was
more
in
reference
to
some
of
the
mechanical
screenings
that
we
have
at
the
roof
levels,
so
more
of
a
full
sun
condition,
as
opposed
to
in
the
alleyway.
But
yes,
that
is
another
kind
of
green
screen,
condition
that
we
have
on
the
project
and
it
you
know
it
will
take
some
time
for
the
vines
to
grow
up
that
whole
face,
and
so
what
we'll
do
is
plant
the
the
base
there
with
enough
perennials
and
maybe
some
small
shrubs
to
have
that
Lush.
T
You
know
planting
Experience
day
one
and
then
you
know
that
will
give
Divine
some
time
to
grow
up
and
and
fill
out
the
vertical
face
there.
Okay,.
T
I
mean
the
real
kind
of
big
cleanups
would
only
typically
happen
twice
a
year
and
then
the
irrigation
is
run
on
a
timer
and
we
would
have
weather
sensors
as
well
so
picking
up
on
the
humidity
and
moisture
in
the
air.
So
that's
all
all
would
be
on
an
automatic
timed
system.
T
It's
possible
that
the
some
of
the
plants
and
in
some
areas
might
require
additional.
You
know
hand,
watering
in
cases
of
drought
or
a
lot
of
dryness,
but
fat
should
be
enough
to
really
help
establish
them
in
the
in
the
beginning
and
especially
if
we
use
mostly
native
plants.
T
You
know
they're
already
really
well
adapted
to
this
climate,
and
so
they
typically
don't
require
much
maintenance
at
all.
Thank
you.
B
B
It
it
sort
of
rides,
I,
I,
think
just
like
similar
to
commissioner
gearen's
question
right
it
it.
It
can
quickly
transition
from
being
an
architecture.
Question
to
a
community
benefits,
question
yeah,
so
I
I
hear
that.
B
V
P
Associate
myself
with
commissioner
and
Tommy's
comments
with
regards
to
keeping
as
much
of
the
site
pedestrian
accessible,
especially
for
those
you
know
accessing
Glebe
not
having
to
make
them
cross-cleve
in
order
to
get
around
the
site,
while
the
construction's
happening,
I,
don't
think
that's
going
to
benefit
anyone
and
I
think
that
will
create
in
unpleasant
and
potentially
hazardous
condition
for
folks
in
that
area.
So
I'm,
very
attuned
to
that
and
I
appreciate,
commissioner,
and
tell
me
raising
that
in
his
initial
remarks.
P
B
L
You
this
is
more
of
a
clarifying
question.
The
applicant
referred
to
Workforce
housing
as
one
of
the
benefits
that
didn't
count
as
a
benefit
being
provided
by
the
project
in
the
staff
report.
It
does
refer
to
11
calf
units
on
site
in
Boston
at
80
Ami,
so
it
doesn't
use
this
term.
Workforce
housing
I,
understand
Workforce
housing
to
usually
be
housing
reserved
for
members
of
County
staff,
for
example
firefighters,
police
officers,
teachers.
L
S
It's
it's
actually,
neither
we
use
the
term
Workforce
housing
broadly
to
describe
it
at
80
Ami.
It
will
not
be
exclusively,
you
know,
available
for
County
School
teachers
and
firefighters
and
police
and
everything
like
that,
but
it
was
a
way
to
achieve
some
measure
afford
of
affordability
at
the
Macy's
site
at
a
higher
income
level.
Okay,.
B
Anything
else
on
affordable
housing
or
Community
benefits
I
before
I
go
to.
Commissioner,
tell
me
your
gear
and
I
want
to
pick
up
a
little
bit
on
the
thread
of
questions
about
enforcement,
both
with
respect
to
the
the
the
to
the
extent
to
which
commissioner
gear
and
you
were
getting
into
the
the
green
wall
issues
and
and
and
the
specialty
commissioner
steinberger's
and
just
save
to
my
colleagues
and
to
staff
I.
B
B
This
isn't
I'm
not
going
to
get
in
the
way
of
of
this
project,
but
for
what
it's
worth
to
my
colleagues
and
and
to
to
staff
I
am
increasingly
thinking
along
the
lines
of
of
whether
we
need
to
be
in
a
spot
where
the
operational
plans,
the
existence
of
an
operational
plan
and
perhaps
even
a
review
of
the
content
of
the
operational
plan
to
maintain
the
viability
of
a
green
wall
or
similar
kinds
of
community
benefits
is
itself
an
appropriate
site
plan.
B
F
Get
his
notepad
he's
been
trying
to
instruct
me
properly,
but
listen,
here's
a
here's,
one
thing
that
I
will
say
just
like
as
a
philosophical
position
and-
and
that
is
simply
you
know
we're
here
in
the
heart
of
in
the
heart
of
Arlington
in
Boston,
and
it
really
makes
me
sad
that
we
don't
have
more
affordable
housing
at
this
site.
You
know
80
Ami,
60
Ami
that
doesn't
really
get
to
where
we
need
to
be
and
I
I
recognize.
F
B
P
P
P
At
the
start,
I
I
would
have
had
a
minimum
like
to
see
more
of
those
units
be
at
the
60
Ami,
because
I
think
that
would
be
a
more
meaningful
start
at
this
location
and
that
divide
of
sort
of
one
at
sixty
percent
ignoring
12
years.
It's
a
start
and
I
appreciate
that,
but
saying
that
only
one
unit
is
going
to
be
at
the
60
Ami
and
you're
gonna
have
11
units
at
the
80
Ami
I'm
troubled
by
that
split
and
I.
Think
that's
something
that
I
would
like
to
see.
P
S
People
yeah
no
I
mean
we.
We
could.
We
could
tag
team,
it
I
the
way
that
we've
earned
our
units
on
this
site
is
almost
exclusively
through
affordable
Hal.
It
is
exclusively
through
affordable
housing
through
the
118
permanently
preserved
market
rate
units
in
Columbia
Pike
we
needed
to
earn
an
additional
couple
of
units
and
staff
said
you're
already
doing
almost
entirely
affordable
housing
throw
in
another
two-bedroom
calf
and
that's
what
we
ended
up
doing,
but
the
80
units,
and
so
that
satisfied
the
way
that
we
were
earning
our
density
all
through
affordable
housing.
S
The
additional
units
were
in
response
to
comments
that
we
heard
just
like
this,
that
there
needed
to
be
some
measure
of
affordable
housing
at
this
site
and,
as
I
think
commissioner
Hughes
had
mentioned.
That
was
a
concern
from
OG
as
well.
S
So
in
addition
to
that,
we
have
the
1.5
million
ahif
contribution,
but
I
think
we're
doing
what
we
can
from
a
financial
feasibility
perspective.
We
also
did
some
some
back
of
the
envelope
numbers,
which
I
don't
have
in
front
of
me,
unfortunately,
but
just
evaluating
how
how
a
project
like
this
might
be
treated
in
terms
of
earning
density
relative
to
a
place
like
Crystal,
City
or
Roslyn,
and
even
though
we're
not
right
there,
where
we
are,
you
know
with
the
additional
11
units.
It's
it's
closer,
so
we've
you
know.
P
Transportation,
you
know
resources
available
at
the
site,
and
so
it's
it's
really
one
of
those
areas
where
you
want
to
see
that
where
we
want
to
see
those
units
because
of
of
those
of
those
reasons.
So
thank
you
and.
F
I'll
associate
myself
there
as
well,
because
I
mean
the
reality.
Is
we
need
more
than
60
we're
having
conversations
about
the
knee
for
30
Amy,
and
so
this
space
here
in
the
heart
of
Arlington
in
Boston
access
to
Transit.
Now
a
grocery
store,
we
have
nothing,
we
don't
have.
We've
missed
I.
Think
we've
missed
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
provide
real,
affordable
housing
and
I,
get
it
that
your
density
was
satisfied
elsewhere,
but
elsewhere
in
a
place.
That's
not
as
Transit
Rich,
it's
not
as
accessible
to
Metro.
W
I'm,
almost
in
tears
and
I
want
to
thank
commissioner
Patel
and
commissioner
Steinberger
eight
years
ago,
I
joined
this
Commission
and
I
began
the
policy
of
voting.
No
every
time
a
single
building
came
forward
across
Arlington
without
any
affordable
on
site.
It
was
just
my
protest
vote.
It
was
quite
easy
for
me
to
do
and
it's
had
an
impact
and
so
I'm
gone
in
five
six
months
and
that's
fine
and
so
hearing
this
discussion,
I
told
myself
tonight.
W
I
should
just
be
quiet
and
listen
and
I
really
walked
into
this
evening.
I
want
to
First
tell
the
applicant
I
want
to
first
of
all
credit
the
applicant,
because
this
site,
by
default
through
the
planning
processes
represented
by
the
esteemed
Council,
the
applicant
and
through
the
Commonwealth's
laws,
is
entitled
to
exactly
zero
on-site
units.
W
W
I
will
make
the
motion
tonight
but
I'm
just
going
to
abstain
because
of
all
the
things
that
commissioner
Steinberger
said
and
my
neighbors
said
earlier,
but
my
abstention
is
Believe,
It
or
Not
a
progression,
because
I
used
to
be
very
easy
for
me
to
say
no,
but
I
just
had
to
say
that
this
evening
and
I
will
I
cannot
express
to
my
colleagues
enough.
The
host
civic
association
for
the
Haven
site
remains
unsupported.
That's
for
the
last
time,
I've
said
the
host
civic
association
for
the
Haven
site.
W
Pretty
much
has
no
single-family
homes
within
it.
To
be
frank
with
my
commissioner,
so
it's
unlike
many
of
the
Civic
associations
we
deal
with
on
a
frequent
and
recurring
basis,
so
it
is.
W
It
is
a
very
complicated
thing
and
so
I
just
tell
my
fellow
Commissioners,
because
I
only
have
five
months
left
to
influence
any
of
you
all.
If
you
don't
ask
for
it,
if
you
don't
demand
it,
if
you
don't
want
the
community
to
get
better,
it
doesn't
get
better
just
by
going
along
with
the
river,
so
I
I
just
wanted
to.
First
of
all,
thank
commissioner
Patel
and
commissioner
Steinberger.
W
This
evening
and
note
that
I
do
thank
the
applicant
because
you
have
gone
a
great
deal
further
than
you
are
required
to,
and
you
should
be
credited
with
that.
So
thank
you
and
my
credit,
for
that
is
simply
by
abstaining
and
being
silent.
So
with
that,
thank
you,
commissioner,
Weir
and
I
look
forward
to
the
further
listening
to
my
colleagues.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Hughes
I'll
go
back
to
you,
commissioner,
Steinberger
and
yeah
every.
P
Entrepreneur
Houston-
and
one
thing
I
would
say,
is
that
it's
the
person
who
volunteers
and
does
the
extra
credit
assignment,
and
you
just
look
to
the
next
time
to
do
more
extra
credit,
and
so
what
we
can
be
appreciative
of
what
you
are
doing,
we're
always
going
to
say
or
I'm
going
to
say,
I
want
to
follow
my
fellow
Commissioners.
Well,
what
can
we
do?
That
gets
us
to
The
Next
Step
as
well.
So
it's
like
you,
do
good
work
and
then
the
reward
is
more
good
work.
So
yay
thanks.
F
That's
the
thing
for
me
right
is
that
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
exactly
what
what
commissioner
Hughes
says:
there's
nothing
more
that
we
can
require,
but
that's
not
where
I
want
to
be
I,
don't
want
to
I
want
our
community
to
continue
to
be
that
community.
That
constantly
looks
out
and
does
more
than
we're
supposed
to
do,
and
so
in
a
place
like
this
one
unit.
I'll
give
you
what
commissioner
Hughes
said:
I'll
credit
you
for
that,
but
we
could
do
more
and
I'm
talking
about
a
cultural
shift
of
doing
more.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner
Patel
commissioner
I'm,
not
seeing
any
other
red
lights,
Commissioners
reach
out
to
you.
Yes,
actually.
K
I've
been
waiting
and
I
I
certainly
want
to
join
my
fellow
Commissioners
on
this
and
call
out
that
at
the
sbrc
the
community
was
Raising.
This
very
disparity
that
we're
we're
actually
making
worse
between
economic
and
racial
disparities
between
Boston
and
Arlington
Mill,
that
an
unintended
consequence
of
the
TDR
transfer
is
to
more
lock
in
place
that
that
inequality-
and
he
you
know
the
community-
was
right
and
this
it
this
that
wasn't
what
the
intent
of
the
TDR
program
was.
K
The
idea
was
to
preserve
as
many
marks
as
possible
or
affordable
housing
as
possible
along
Columbia
Pike,
but
in
practice
what
it
is
doing
is
exacerbate,
creating
a
certain
amount
of
the
inequalities,
and
that's
a
larger
issue
that
really
we
we
can't
address
with
this
particular
site
has
has
already
been
mentioned.
You
know
they
follow
the
rules
there.
They
did
the
right
things.
K
This
isn't
a
basis
for
turning
this
down
at
all,
but
it
is
something
to
flag,
and
it
is
something
to
us
to
look
at
and
think
about
how
tdrs
work
and
what
how
they
work
on
an
equity
basis
and
I.
Think
that
was
a
right
thing
for
the
community
at
the
Boston
Community
to
flag,
so
yeah
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
they
got
recognized
for
raising
this
also.
G
Conversation
and
I
know
you
are
encouraging
us
to
Hue
to
our
schedule.
Is
I'd
really
welcome
a
larger
conversation
about
how
we
do
want
to
get
to
more
affordability
in
our
units,
I'm,
not
sure
the
models
that
we're
using
right
now
are
going
to
be
successful,
but
I
do
think
there
are
other
things
we
can
do
so,
like
my
colleagues
I'm
grateful
that
we're
having
this
discussion
and
that
it's
been
raised,
thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner,
giren,
unless
there
is
any
other,
unless
there
are
any,
unless
there's
anything
else
that
anyone
wishes
to
raise
under
this
item
or
seeing
none
generally
on
any
other
item,
commissioner
Eli
tell
me
I
believe
I'm
going
to
go
to
you
for
a
motion.
B
Well,
we're
making
recommendations,
so
what
matters
is
the
board?
Does
it
in
the
right
order,
but
but
but
we
shouldn't
confuse
them
by
the
order
that
we
do
it
so
yeah.
Thank
you,
commissioner,
Hughes,
and
let
tell
me.
W
And
let's
staff
recommends
otherwise
I
plan
to
move
all
three
of
them
by
reading
them
off
from
the
staff
report.
Is
that
acceptable,
I'm,
seeing
Matt
shaking
his
head,
which
is
a
good
sign
for
me
and
before
I,
read
I,
just
want
to
reiterate?
B
W
W
It
I
do
want
to
say
before
I
read
the
motion
from
the
staff
report,
page
top
of
page
two
for
my
Commissioners.
W
If,
when
I
don't
support,
something
I
would
not
go
through
the
step
of
actually
making
the
motion
I
do
plan
to
abstain
from
this
vote,
but
I
do
not
discourage
any
of
my
colleagues
from
supporting
the
motion.
I
think
it
is
a
balancing
act
and
that
is
our
job.
W
Therefore,
I
move
that
the
Planning
Commission
recommend
the
County
Board
adopt
the
attached
ordinance
to
amend
reenact
recodify,
the
Arlington
County
zoning
orients
article
11.2
cbn-fbc
Columbia
Pike
neighborhoods
form
based
code
district,
appendix
B,
Western
Siberia,
regulating
plan
to
designate
The
Haven
apartment
as
a
Conservation
Area
and
to
incorporate
Associated
changes
to
the
conservation
area
attachment
a
further
I
reckon
the
Planning
Commission
recommended
the
County
border
to
prove
the
subject
use
permit
in
accordance
with
the
Columbia
Pike
neighborhoods
form-based
code
in
FBC,
article
11.2
of
the
Zone
in
ordinance.
W
The
conservation
of
the
Haven
Apartments,
subject
to
the
conditions
of
the
staff
report
and
further
I,
move
that
the
Planning
Commission
recommend
the
County
Board
adopt.
The
attached
resolution
certifying
a
118
residential
units
which
may
be
transferred
at
a
rate
of
2
per
unit
as
transferable
development
rights
on
the
Haven
Apartments
sending
site
for
the
purposes
of
historic
preservation
and
commit
affordable
housing
attachment
B.
B
Commission
has
moved
motion
is
made
by
moved
by
commissioner
Hughes
seconded
by
commissioner.
Tell
me,
commissioner:
Hughes.
Would
you
like
to
speak
to
your
motion
I.
B
Mindful
that
this
is
the
motion
that
would
make
recommendations
as
to
the
sending
of
the
transfer
development
rights,
I
would
entertain
any
additional
comments
on
the
motion.
Just.
W
B
F
Just
all
know
that
I'll
be
abstaining
in
just
the
same
reasons
that
commissioner
Hughes
is
abstaining
and
also
add
that
my
my
abstention
in
this
vote
goes
to
the
unintended
consequences.
The
racial
in
socioeconomic
unintended
consequences
that
come
from
this
transfer.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Patel
with
that
I
am
going
to
go
down
the
role.
Well,
let
me
actually
a
commissioner
tell
me
and
Gary
I've
I've
failed
to
reach
out
to
you.
No.
B
Me
all
right
we'll
go
down
the
roll
on
the
main
motion,
as
made
by
commissioner
Hughes,
commissioner
Bagley.
M
I
N
A
B
Commissioner,
tell
me
I'm
going
to
can
I
go
to
you,
then,
for
a
motion
on
the
Boston
Macy's
portion
of
this
item.
K
K
045-038-039,
the
receiving
site
and
I
further
move
that
the
Planning
Commission
recommend
that
the
County
Board
adopt
the
attached
ordinance
to
amend
site
plan
number
193
to
permit
construction
of
up
to
553
residential
dwelling
units
at
approximately
forty
three
thousand.
Seventy
six
square
feet
of
retail
GFA
located
at
658
and
701
North
Glebe
Road,
RPC
numbers.
B
K
B
Thank
you
motion
is
made
by
commissioner
tell
me
seconded
by
commissioner
schroll.
This
is
a
motion
to
amend
the
main
motion.
The
the
first
motion
would
incorporate
this
second
motion.
If
this
second
motion
is
adopted,
commissioner
Len
tell
me,
do
you
have
I
like
to
speak
to
the
motion
yeah,
and
let
me
just
hope
that
typically,
emotions
to
amend
are
not
debatable.
B
We
are
not
bound
strictly
by
those
rules
which
are
advisory
and
exist
to
promote
the
efficient
and
orderly
conduct
conduct
of
business.
In
this
case,
though,
I
think
that
it
is
enough
to
say
we
know
what
we
are
talking
about
and
doing
that
we're
not
going
to
let
perfect
adherence
to
aspirational
and
advisory
rules
get
in
the
way
of
conducting
our
business.
Commissioner
Peterson
I
also
saw
that
you
had
your
hand
up
I'm
going
to
go
to
you
in
a
second,
but
I
want
to
first
go
to
commissionerland.
Tell
me
for
speaking
to
this
motion.
K
Yeah,
it
actually
will
make
clear
that
what
Mr
selins
said
that
they're
continuing
to
look
at
this
intersection
and
continue
to
look
for
Solutions
will
continue.
K
K
B
That
would
seem
right,
yes,
so
I
I,
then,
would
seek
unanimous
commit
sent
to
e-mend
the
motion
to
amend
the
motion
without
objection.
The
motion
is
amended.
B
Any
other
comments
on
this
motion
I'm
going
to
go
down
the
roll
commissioner
Bagley.
B
This
is
for,
commissioner,
might
tell
me
a
motion
that
would
add
to
our
main
motion
the
recommendation
that
the
county
staff
a
conditional
language,
that
our
recommendation
is
provided
that
the
county
staff
would
work
with
the
applicant
in
VDOT
to
come
up
with
options
for
the
North
7th,
Street
and
Glebe
Road
intersection
that
are
more
pedestrian
oriented
than
the
current
proposal.
B
B
Right,
commissioner,
Begley
now
I
am
calling
on
you.
D
B
B
Professional
tell
me
I
know
that
you
have
another
motion:
I
believe
that
it
is
both
on
the
main
motion.
Now,
don't
we
yeah?
So
let's,
let's
do
let's
deal
with
the
main
motion,
then
I
have
one
more
motion
after
that,
the
independence.
B
So
it's
the
main
motion
as
amended,
which
includes
this
provided
that
language
that
the
that
commissioner
and
tell
me
second
motion
added
to
it.
Without
any
additional
discussion,
I
will
be
go
down
the
roll
commissioner
Begley.
M
M
B
Commissioner
Peterson
aye
commissioner
sarley
aye
commissioner
schroll
aye,
commissioner
Steinberger
aye
I
vote
I
as
well.
The
motion
carries
seven
to
zero.
Commissioner,
tell
me:
do
you
have
another
motion.
K
Yes,
I
do
I
I,
move
that
the
County
Board
direct,
the
county
manager
to
add
to
the
cphd
work
plan,
a
process
for
updating
the
Boston
sector
plan
to
address
the
glebro
Divide
between
the
eastern
and
western
sides
of
Boston?
Is
there
a
second.
B
The
chair
seconds,
commissioner,
tell
me:
would
you
like
to
speak
to
your
motion.
K
Yes,
this
is
something
that
has
been
coming
up
time
after
time
before
this
commission.
Whenever
something
in
Boston
any
project
in
Boston
gets
raised.
We
have
noted
that
there's
distinct,
a
growing
divide
between
the
two
sides
of
Boston
that
retail
on
the
western
side
has
not
been
as
strong
as
retail
on
the
Eastern
side,
because
Glebe
Road
is
simply
too
daunting
to
cross
the
sector
plan.
As
we
have
noted,
almost
every
meeting
is
40
years
old
and
needs
needs
to
be
brought
up
to
date
in
some
form
or
another.
K
Glee
Road
seems
to
be
the
most
pressing
issue
and
it
needs
to
be
looked
at
holistically
from
one
end
of
Boston
to
the
other
as
to
what
can
be
done
to
make
it
more
pedestrian
friendly.
It
still
is
pretty
much
a
traffic
sewer
that
is
daunting
to
cross
and
I.
Think
it
is
it's
more
than
past
time
to
address
that.
E
Question
for
commissioner
Len
tell
me
as
to
why
the
limitation
on
the
language
and
not
recommending
an
update,
a
full
update
to
the
Boston
sector
plan
as
Oppo.
Why
limit
this
to
an
analysis
of
Glebe
Road.
K
I
I
do
that,
because
we've
been
banging
our
heads
against
the
wall
asking
for
the
Ballston
sector
plan
to
be
updated
and
got
gotten
absolutely
nowhere
with
it.
I
think
we
might
have
more
of
a
chance
of
getting
enough
of
some
sort
of
update.
That
is
more
targeted.
K
It's
something
that
is
more
easily
bitten
off.
You
don't
have
to
have
quite
as
much
many
staff
dedicated
to
it.
You
might
actually
get
some
something
out
of
it
that
that's
I
mean
it's
the
practicality.
That's
why
I'm
doing
it
this
way
and
you're
and
I
don't
disagree
with
you.
Yeah.
E
So
I'm
I'm
going
to
abstain
on
this
one
I
don't
disagree
that
there's
some
benefit
in
in
having
some
analysis
of
this.
We
did
in
between
study.
We've
done
other
things
like
this
and
bit
off
smaller
things,
but
for
to
me
this
makes
it
seem
as
though
it's
okay
to
do
this
at
the
expense
of
not
addressing
a
42
year
old
plan,
and
that
to
me
is
a
something
that
I'm,
not
okay.
With.
W
I'm,
probably
going
to
go
a
step
further
than
commissioner
schroll
I'm,
going
to
actually
vote.
No,
commissioner
lantomi
for
the
sole
purpose
of
the
fact
that
this
plan
is
literally
older
than
me.
I
was
not
even
a
baby
when
this
was
approved.
I
was
not
even
a
glimmer
in
my
parents
eyes
when
this
was
approved.
W
That
is
how
old
the
Boston
sector
plan
is.
Further
to
that.
Eight
years
ago
almost
I
joined
this
commission.
When
I
joined
this
commission,
we
talked
about
planning,
Lee
Highway.
We
still
don't
have
a
plan
approved
to
plan
Lee
Highway
the
concept
of
planning
sector
plans.
The
way
we
built
for
60
years
is
not
going
to
be
the
method
moving
forward.
We
cannot
rely
on
a
42
year
old
sector
plan
to
create
a
market
Dynamic
that
our
applicants
can
come
forward
with
and
actually
build
something
we
can't
that's
the
reality
of
it.
W
We
can't
spend
10
years
planning
it's
just
it's
just
not
a
method
moving
forward.
So,
commissioner,
Antonio
I,
understand
your
principles.
I
too
wish
to
have
a
Glebe
Road
stretch.
That's
more
Visionary,
more
urban
focused
more
pedestrian.
That
takes
you,
the
bridges.
All
the
way
from
Chain
Bridge
all
the
way
down
to
Pentagon
City
Potomac
Yards.
It
goes
the
whole
distance.
It
could
be
great,
but
if
we
spent
10
years
planning
Lee
Highway,
we
would
spend
20
years
trying
to
plan
that.
So
for
me
and
I
know
it's
just
Boston.
W
The
answer
is
not
to
do
things.
The
way
we
have
done
them
for
40
years.
It
is
to
ask
ourselves:
how
do
we
redo
it?
We're
going
to
do
missing
middle
on
Monday
night
next
week?
That
has
only
been
a
four-year
process
and
it's
been
one
year
of
very
active
engagement
and
that's
a
whole
county-wide
zoning
ordinance
change,
I'm,
simply
saying:
if
we
move
forward
with
these,
we
need
to
really
fundamentally
think
how
do
we
actually
build
a
community?
That's
Dynamic!
That's
growing
that
can
respond.
W
I
mean
the
World.
Cup
is
being
hosted
in
an
amazing
City
that
when
the
Boston
Civic
sector
plan
was
approved
was
barely
in
existence.
That's
how
Dynamic
the
place
is.
So
if
we
want
to
be
a
dynamic
city,
we've
got
to
change
how
we
plan.
That's
all
I'm
going
to
say
and
I
am
a
no
on
this,
but
Commissioners
will
I
support.
You.
AA
AA
I
I
have
to
agree
with
them,
though
I
think
the
the
the
piecemealing
of
this
problem
won't
really
help
the
problem
as
much
as
I
agree
with
commission.
Tell
me
sentiment.
B
Commissioner,
Garen
feel
free
to
pass
I.
Just
don't
want
to
I,
don't
want.
G
To
no
thank
you,
I
I
actually
raised
my
hand
for
this
I
absolutely
agree
with
commissioner
schroll
and
Hughes.
This
has
been
an
issue
for
a
long
time.
We
need
to
find
other
ways
to
address
this,
although
I
agree
I
appreciate,
commissioner
Lan
tell
me
a
shepherding
of
this
entire
project
and
thinking
through
how
we
address
these
issues
going
forward,
but
we
need
to
fundamentally
find
a
way
to
update
our
vision
for
our
different
neighborhoods.
Thanks.
B
So
seeing
all
the
red
lights
I'm
going
to
recognize
myself
on
this
and
I
I
am
going
to
full-throatedly
support
this
amendment
of
this
motion
for
many
of
the
reasons
that
are
that
commissioner
Hughes
just
articulated
I
I
have
company
on
the
Boston
sector
plan.
I
too,
am
younger
than
the
Boston
sector
plan.
B
I
believe
that
the
Boston
sector
plan
has
done
much
more
in
its
time
on
this
Earth
relative
to
what
it's
set
out
to
achieve
than
I
have,
which
is
to
say
that
that
the
Boston
sector
plan
is
in
so
many
ways
a
victim
of
its
own
success
right.
It
envisioned
a
Ballston
that
looks
very
much
like
Boston
looks
now.
I.
Don't
really
think
that
we
need
to
to
dedicate
the
bandwidth
of
our
public
servants
and
ourselves
to
updating
a
Boston
sector
plan.
B
What
we
do
need
to
do
is
to
solve
what
I
believe
is
the
existential
threat
to
the
continued
viability
of
Boston
as
a
neighborhood
and
to
the
continued
viability
of
any
growth
in
Boston
sort
of
role
as
in
economic
activity.
Zone
and
the
only
place
that
that
is,
go
going
to
grow
is
west
of
Glebe
Road.
So
this
car
sewer
this
Canyon
right
that
continues
and
continues
to
threaten
to
undermine
the
idea
of
a
Boston
that
exists
on
both
sides
of
Glebe
Highway.
That
is
the
existential
threat
that
balston
faces
today.
B
B
That
is
in
so
many
ways
wider
than
West
Broadway
is
at
at
at
Lincoln,
Center,
yeah
and
and
yet
people
cross
Lincoln
across
Broadway
to
Lincoln
Center,
all
the
time
and
and
Fordham,
because
because
there
are
things
to
do
on
both
sides,
because
it
is
built
in
such
a
way
right
as
to
Envision
a
neighborhood
that
exists
on
both
sides
of
of
a
similarly
sized
Highway,
and
we
don't
have
that
on
Glebe
and
and
that's
the
kind
of
planning
Focus.
That
I
think
that
we
need
and
I
think
that.
That
is
why.
B
That
is
why
I'm
so
glad,
not
just
that,
commissioner
lantel
me
is
recommending
it,
but
that
he's
recommending
this
in
a
way
that
that
allows
us
to
focus
on
the
problem
at
hand
rather
than
to
try
to
apply
a
solution
from
1980
in
in
updating
that
solution
from
1980.
So
I'm,
gonna,
I'm,
gonna,
yield
I,
know
that
one
or
two
of
you
may
be
tempted
to
respond
to
that
I'm
happy
to
let
you
do
that
and
then
we're
going
to
go
to
the
vault.
E
I
mean
a
couple
of
things
to
one
I
think
commissioner
Hughes
has
convinced
me
to
be
a
no.
So
thank
you,
commissioner
Hughes.
The
other
is
in
response.
Mr
chairman
the
staff
report
before
us
this
evening
referenced
not
the
Boston,
the
previous
Boston
Common
Mall,
but
reference
the
Parkington
Mall
before
it.
E
The
Boston
sector
plan
envisions
route
66
coming.
It
is
a
document
that
you
know
I
understand
the
piecemeal
nature,
I
understand
that
it
is
served
a
purpose,
but
this
is
something
that
you
know
we.
We
need
to
dedicate
the
staff
resources.
We
have
the
head
of
our
CH,
the
cphd
planning
here
with
us
tonight.
E
I
know
he
is
managing
a
lot
of
Staff
time
to
to
do
many
things
and
there's
a
reticence
to
dedicate
the
amount
of
time
that
we've
we're
spending
on
the
highway
in
other
places,
but
I
think
the
solution
is
coming
together,
collaboratively
on
what
that
could
look
like
and
how
we
can
do
this
and
and
update
these
plans.
E
I
think
that
the
danger
is
we
just
have
42
year
old
plans
get
shredded
out
that
are
kind
of
useless
planning
documents
and
not
having
a
way
to
maintain
our
plans
is
a
problem
not
just
here:
Courthouse
West
other
places
where
the
solution
becomes
special
Club
studies
and
we
all
know
kind
of
the
pushback
we're
getting
on
those.
E
So
it's
not
this
applicant's
problem
and
and
but
it's
a
planning
problem
and
it
you
know,
I
think
in
addition
to
doing
these
type
of
recommendations,
I
think
we
also
when
we
talk
about
the
work
plan.
The
budget
need
to
be
recommending
more
ftes
for
cphd.
It's
a
staffing
challenge
to
do
this
work
and
so
I
think
we
should
be
also
when
the
time
is
right,
be
making
those
type
of
recommendations
as
well.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner,
schroll,
and
that
will
be
something
that
the
chair
and
vice
chair
next
year
will
have
to
carry
some
water
for
us
on
I'm,
going
to
call
the
roll-up.
Then
we'll
start
with
commissioner
Bagley.
G
A
B
Now
you're
gonna
have
to
make
me
count
the
chair,
votes,
I.
B
There
wasn't
a
just
for
anyone
who
is
wondering
what's
going
on
right,
the
the
the
abstention
reduces
our
denominator.
There
was
a
time
when
we
recorded
such
votes
as
three
to
six
to
one.
We
were
implicitly
told
to
cut
that
out,
and
so
the
the
motion
fails
three
to
six.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Tommy.
Are
there
any
other
motions
on
this
matter?.
K
B
AC
Good
evening,
members
of
the
Planning
Commission
so
again,
I'm
Michael
Cullen,
with
the
cphd
planning
division
tonight,
I'll
be
providing
a
staff
overview
of
the
application
to
amend
the
Crystal
City
pdsp,
which
is
associated
with
the
Crystal
Plaza
5
site
plan
project.
That's
anticipated
to
be
heard
in
January
of
next
year
due
to
an
advertising
error
associated
with
a
proposed
rezoning
request.
AC
So
this
item
includes
a
request
to
amend
the
Crystal
City
pdsp
to
a
revised
density
and
use
allocations
with
minor
updates
as
necessary.
AC
The
subject
Amendment
incorporates
changes
in
anticipation
of
the
Crystal
Plaza
5
site
plan,
as
I
mentioned,
which
is
shown
here
on
the
far
right
and
located
at
the
intersection
of
23rd
Street,
South
and
Crystal
Drive,
so
originally
approved
in
March,
2020
and
amended
most
recently
in
October
2022.
The
pdsp
represents
a
comprehensive
approach
to
the
delivery
of
community
benefits
in
Crystal
City
and
for
achieving
the
goals
of
the
Crystal
City
sector
plan.
The
existing
pdsp
as
amended,
binds
four
non-contiguous
projects
to
contemplate
the
maximum
amount
of
density
achievable
with
the
associated
final
site
plan.
AC
Applications
and
Community
benefits
commitments
for
each
project,
which
include
the
aforementioned
Crystal
Plaza
5
site
at
223,
23rd
Street
and
2250
Crystal
Drive,
the
1900
Crystal
Drive
site,
approved
in
March
2020
and
currently
under
construction.
The
crystal
Gateway
site
approved
in
November
2020
at
101,
12th
Street
and
the
Crystal
Plaza
one
site
approved
in
May
2021
at
2050
and
2051
South,
Bell
Street,
which
is
also
currently
under
construction.
AC
The
map
below
shows
the
aforementioned
sites
within
the
pdsp,
including
the
Crystal
Plaza
5
site
plan,
shown
in
red
worth
noting.
Here.
The
the
sector
plan
specifically
identifies
a
pdsp
approach
as
an
improvement
implementation
tool
for
achieving
major
improvements
in
Crystal
City
that
could
be
approved
either
prior
to
or
concurrently
with
final
site
plans.
AC
As
noted,
the
Crystal
Plaza
5
site
plan
application
proposes
a
number
of
changes
and
Community
benefits
that
are
outlined
in
this
pdsp
amendment
and
which
will
be
further
detailed
when
it
moves
forward
for
consideration
in
January.
The
Plaza
5
project
would
include
two
new
residential
towers,
with
a
total
of
1
439
units
and
a
combined
ground
floor,
retail
of
approximately
just
under
23
000
square
feet.
AC
The
project
would
deliver
two
new
public
spaces,
including
an
approximately
8
000
square
foot,
portion
of
open
space
10
or
the
23rd
Street
Plaza,
as
identified
in
the
sector
plan
and
over
5500
square
feet
of
public
Plaza
space
identified
as
open
space
number
11..
The
project
would
also
relocate
the
entrance
of
the
Crystal
City
Underground
interior
to
the
interior
of
the
site.
AC
The
Crystal
City
sector
plan
envisions
a
land
use
mix
across
the
block,
with
an
expectation
that
a
minimum
40
percent
of
the
block
be
dedicated
to
residential
or
hotel
uses,
in
addition
to
officer
commercial
uses,
rather
than
establish
maximum
density
restrictions,
the
plan
sets
the
limit
of
what
can
be
considered
as
base
density.
In
this
case,
the
plan
identifies
densities
that
correspond
to
the
general
land
use
plan.
Above
above,
any
additional
density
will
be
required
to
be
achieved
through
Community
benefits
or
recommended
tools
like
the
Green
Building
incentive
program,
the
sector
plan
identifies
affordable.
AC
Housing
is
a
quote
high.
Priority
Community
benefit,
in
addition
to
goals
for
open
space,
Transportation
improvements
and
implementation
of
the
Green
Building
incentive
program.
The
proposed
pdsp
amendment
is
consistent
with
this
guidance
in
late
2020
County
staff,
developed
administrative
guidance
for
office,
conversions
in
anticipation
of
several
proposals
to
change,
planned
or
approved
office
developments
and
other
to
other
uses.
B
There's
no
public
comment:
okay,
Mr,
Whitmore
I
saw
you
reaching
for
the
the
mic.
You
threw
me
off
a
little
bit
there,
commissioner
schro
I
think
I'm
going
to
go
to
you
for
the.
Let
me
it
would
be
in
order
for
me
to
go
to
commissioner
I
want
to
tell
me
first
I
think
we
we
have
no
public
comment,
but
but.
L
A
B
B
That's
great!
That's
brief.
If
nothing
else
so
then
I
will
note
that
commission,
the
discussion
is
now
with
the
commission
and
I
will
Begin.
By
going
to
commissioner
schroll.
E
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
I'll,
just
keep
this
brief.
I
do
circulate
a
a
memo
which
covered
most
of
the
things
that
Mr
Cullen
just
walked
through.
You
know
at
this
stage,
I
think
what's
before
us
this
evening
is,
is
really
just
the
approval
of
changes
in
density.
E
There
will
be
I
think
further
discussion
when
we
have
the
site
plan
come
before
us
in
January
the
letter
that
we
did
get
from
the
park
and
rec
commission
I
think
is
more
relevant
to
consider
when
we
talk
about
the
site
plan
and
not
as
relevant
tonight
for
tonight's
discussion
and
then
some
of
the
other
critiques
that
I
think
we
are
hearing
are
maybe
more
more
relevant
about
Community
benefits
and
things
like
that
are
probably
more
relevant
to
discuss
again
in
January
and
not
tonight.
E
So
with
that
I
think
I,
don't
necessarily
have
a
discussion
agenda
for
you
all,
because
there
there
aren't
really
outstanding
issues
necessarily
with
respect
to
what
we're
what's
before
us,
and
so,
but
would
certainly
you
know
if
there
are
topics
from
my
fellow
Commissioners
that
you
like
to
discuss.
I
would
certainly
you
know,
welcome
them,
but
I
don't
have
a
list
of
of
those
to
propose
at
this
time
and,
and
my
intention
is
to
move
the
county
manager's
recommendation
so
that
that's
kind
of
concludes.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Schroll
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
incorporate
your
your
comments,
Commissioners
role
in
in
echoing
what
we
did
with
the
with
item
two
and
and
and
that
that
I
think
that
we
we've
got
a
very
limited
set
of
issues,
and
so
could
I.
Ask
that
you
give
us
a
motion
and-
and
we
can
do,
questions
and
comments
within
that
context.
Certainly.
E
So
I
would
move
that
the
Planning
Commission
recommend
that
the
County
Board
adopt
the
attached
ordinance
to
the
staff
report
dated
November
30th
2022
to
amend
the
phase
development
site
plan,
pdsp
number
number
454
to
revise
density
and
use
allocations
and
other
updates
as
necessary.
But
the
subject
pdsp
covering
for
non-contiguous
sites
in
Crystal
City,
located
at
2050
and
2051
South
Bell
Street,
RPC
number
34-020-283-084.
E
B
Motion
is
made
by
commissioner
schroll
seconded
by
commissioner
Hughes.
Commissioner
schroll
I
will
invite
you
to
speak
to
the
motion.
E
Yeah
I
mean
I,
think
Mr
Cullen
walked
through
this.
Well,
which
is
you
know
this
tonight,
is
to
facilitate
kind
of
the
further
discussion
of
the
aspiracy
in
January,
and
the
applicant
is
coming
forward
with
a
revision
to
where
we
were
previously
in
the
pdsp,
so
changing
density
from
an
office
building
and
a
residential
building
to
two
Office
Buildings-
and
you
know
there
are
Associated
Community
benefits,
they're
called
for
in
the
sector
plan,
which
is
helping
them
earn
that
density.
E
So
it's
the
you
know
public
parks
and
and
the
maintenance
of
the
underground
Etc.
So
you
know
really
tonight
it
is
to
facilitate
the
changes
in
the
public
benefits,
but
it's
also
and
to
kind
of
bake
those
in,
but
it's
also
to
kind
of
reallocate
the
density,
and
it
really
creates
that
framework
under
which
we
could
consider
the
the
slight
plan
come
January.
The
reason
we're
not
considering
both
as
Mr
Colin
noted
is.
E
There
was
just
a
notice
issue
with
with
the
airport,
and
so
normally
we
would
consider
these
things
simultaneously
and
it
would
have
been
very
similar
to
what
we
just
did
where
we
were
kind
of
moving
density.
Around
with
the
pdsp
and
then
we
would
consider
a
site
plan
and
that's
how
we
would
do
it
normally,
but
because
of
the
notice
issue,
we
were
not
able
to
do
that
this
evening.
E
B
Thank
you
any
other
questions
or
comments,
I'm
going
to
start.
Actually,
you
know
what
this
time
I'm
going
to
start
with
Commissioners.
Let
tell
me
in
gearen
so
that
I,
don't
as
we
get
toward
the
end
of
the
night
start
forgetting
them
again.
G
Nor
do
I,
commissioner
schwell
answered
all
my
comments
via
our
correspondence.
Thank
you.
W
Just
a
quick
question
for
staff:
is
the
noticing
function
exclusively
impacting
the
Planning
Commission,
or
was
it
noticed
in
time
such
that
the
County
Board
could
have
heard
it
had
the
Planning
Commission
met
the
timeline?
In
other
words,
were
we
forgotten
or
is
it
both?
It
was
kind
of
it
was
kind
of
it
would
have
impacted
both
regardless.
It's.
AC
B
That's
a
good
question
for
sure:
Sally
I
thought:
I
saw
your
hand
up
I'm.
Sorry,
I
did
okay
over
on
this
side,
all
right.
So
without
any
other
questions
or
comments,
I
am
going
to
go
down
the
roll
commissioner
Bagley
setting
with
you.
G
A
B
Begley,
that
was
a
yes
right.
That
was
an
eye
commissioner,
Hughes.
N
B
Commissioner,
tell
me
I,
commissioner
Patel
aye
commissioner
Peterson
aye,
commissioner
sarley
aye,
commissioner
schroll
aye,
commissioner
Steinberger
aye,
chair
votes.
I
motion
carries
ten
to
zero.
Thank
you
to
staff
for
the
applicant
for
being
here,
I'm
glad
that
this
project
was
able
to
move
along
at
the
extent
that
it
was
able
to
move
along.
You
welcome
commissioner
Patel
for
taking
one
thing
off
of
your
plate
in
January.
AD
B
B
Commissioner,
tell
me
your
gearing
your
opportunity
hearing.
None
I
entertain
that
the
I
I.
B
Hearing,
no
objection:
the
minutes
are
adopted
by
unanimous
consent,
we'll
go
first
then,
to
staff
report
on
current
matters.
Mr
Pfeiffer.
AC
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman.
We
have
no
report
this
month.
B
Thank
you,
Mr
Pfeiffer,
and
thank
you.
The
sprc
report,
commissioner
Peterson
I,
know
that
you
send
these
things
out
in
advance.
Is
there
anything
you
wish
to
add
to
your
circulated
report.
L
Just
that
I
am
looking
for
sprc
project
chairs
for
the
Red
Lion
in
Best
Western,
as
well
as
the
Sunrise
South
Glebe
projects
that
should
be
coming
online
soon,
so,
if
either
of
those
projects
interest,
you
please
let
me
know
otherwise,
I
will
be
harassing
you
individually.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Peterson
I
believe
that
we
have
no
rosters
to
either
amend
or
correct.
Is
that
or
amend
or
adopt?
Is
that
okay?
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Tell
me
I
go
to
you.
K
Yeah
I
already
sent
the
lrpc
report
around.
The
only
update
on
that
is
the
sunrise
lrpc,
which
was
canceled,
will
be
rescheduled
sometime
in
2023.
B
And
I
think
that
we
should
note
that
that
the
the
rescheduling
of
the
sunrise
lrpc
has
prompted
the
beginning
of
some
conversations
or
suddenly
the
scheduling
of
some
conversations
about
what
we
can
do
about
how
we
do
rosters.
We
all
knew
this
was
going
to
happen.
It
was
a
matter
of
when
and
whose
project
and
so
I
I
thank
everyone
for
the
grace
that
the
the
Grace
Grace
graciousness
of
gracefulness,
with
which
this
was
handled
on
this
one,
specifically
Mr
fusarelli
Mr
Pfeiffer.
AD
Chair,
we
are
members
of
the
Planning
Commission
Anthony
fusarelli,
with
the
planning
office,
not
too
much
more
to
add.
I.
Think
this,
as
you
put
very
nicely,
I
think
you
know
we
knew
when
we
began
this
process.
It
was
going
to
be
a
learning
process
and
there
was
going
to
be
iteration
and
opportunities
for
refinement,
so
just
as
I
I
think
we
from
the
staff
side-
and
hopefully
you
from
the
commission
side,
have
found
the
approach
thus
far
working
generally
well.
AD
There
are
opportunities
for
improvement
and
I
think
the
the
rescheduling
or
the
cancellation
of
last
Tuesday's
long-range
meeting
and
the
need
to
reschedule
that
just
identified
and
one
of
those
opportunities
for
improvement
that
we
look
forward
to
having
further
discussion
and
solution
formulation
with
you
all
going
forward.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
B
You
Mr
fusrelli,
the
zelco.
AA
We
do
have
a
December
13th
at
3,
P.M
zoko
meeting.
That's
going
to
be
commercial
resiliency
initiative
by
the
economic
AED.
AA
E
AD
There
was
a
building
building
from
I
think
the
comment
about
the
calendar
challenges
two
weeks
ago,
I
think
before
some
of
the
some
of
the
updates
in
terms
of
notifications
that
were
not
met
the
way
they
needed
to.
We
were
looking
at
the
prospect
of
a
three
or
four
evening
slate
of
planning,
December
Planning,
Commission
meetings.
AD
We
are
we're
looking
at
long
range
meetings
last
week
and
the
opportunity
or
need
really
for
zoko
discussion
as
well
and
I.
Think
in
consultation
with
zoko
leadership,
there
were
a
range
of
Alternatives
that
were
considered
in
terms
of
how
to
address
that
and
I.
Think.
Through
those
conversations
we
landed
at
this
3
P.M
meeting
next
Tuesday
afternoon,
I,
don't
know
if,
if
either
commissioner
Patel
or
sarley
would
want
to
add
anything,
I
may
have
missed
yeah.
B
Let
you
do
that,
and
that
is
that
that
as
much
as
really
pointed
out,
both
items,
one
and
five
should
have
been
as
involved,
were
anticipated
to
be
as
involved
as
item
four,
and
so
we
we
truly
were
looking
at
a
at
a
December
meeting
where
we
had
four
long,
like
four
nights,
four
hours
each
that's
when
the
decision
to
schedule
it
was
made
it
it
just
so
happens
that
that
we
got
a
little
bit
of
pressure
release
on
our
evening
agendas.
B
It
would
have
been
a
Bruiser
of
a
December
and
and
I'll.
Let
you
know,
I
I
I
will
be
happy
for
anything
that
that
commissioner
Patel
and
Sally
had
but
I
I
was
also
asked
whether
or
not
I
was
supportive
of
this,
and
my
response
was
that,
if,
if
they're,
supportive
of
it
I'll
do
what
I
can
to
support
it,
too
look
meetings
have
to
happen,
and
at
the
time
we
we
didn't
know
when
it
was
good.
F
Yeah
yeah,
so
the
other
other,
this
pressure
valve
and
Beyond
the
fact
that
we
were
having
a
lot
of
meetings.
We
had
a
consensus
issue.
We
had
two
things
kind
of
building
simultaneously,
one
was
whether
we
were
not
a
consensus.
Excuse
me
a
quorum
issue
whether
we
were
going
to
be
able
to
make
Quorum
one
more
night
for
an
evening
meeting,
and
then
the
other
issue
was
was
actually
literally
scheduling
and
trying
to
find
room
to
be
able
to
schedule
this
meeting.
G
I
understand
that
we
have
a
full
schedule.
I
can't
believe
we
would
schedule
something
for
3
P.M
when
we've
struggled
so
hard
to
get
a
quorum
for
the
meetings
that
we
do
have,
and
if
this
is
our
policy
going
forward
that
we
will
be
scheduling
meetings
during
the
work
day
to
accommodate
our
busy
schedule.
I
guess
I
need
to
know
that
in
advance
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
accommodate
a
midday
meeting.
E
Yeah
I
would
I
would
concur
with
with
commissioner
gear
and,
if
I
might
like
this
is
breaking
from
some
pretty
consistent
policy
of
not
doing
that
and
I
mean
the
zoning
committee
is
just
us
normally
so
maybe
slightly
different,
but
to
commissioner
gearen's
point
I.
Think
the
majority
of
the
people
on
this
diet
work
full
time,
and
so
that's
a
difficult
thing
for
us
and
I
mean
it.
E
It
better,
not
be
an
sprc
or
an
lrpc
where
we're
asking
members
of
the
public
to
come
or
we're
going
to
be
vilified
for
that,
because
so
I
will
say
right
now.
For
the
remainder
of
my
time,
the
commission
was
the
same
as
commissioner
hughes's
I
I'm,
not
going
to
support
anything
that
has
a
3
P.M
meeting
on
a
weekday.
That's
ludicrous
yeah.
F
I,
don't
think
that
your
point
is:
is
invalid
at
all
I
think
in
this
particular
space
we
were
faced
with
two
very,
not
great
options.
One
was
not
host
a
meeting
and
just
have
a
memo
and
the
matter
just
come
before
us
or
have
them
have
a
meeting
at
3
pm
and
where,
however,
many
of
us
could
be,
there
could
be
there
to
have
the
conversation,
and
so
we
opted
for
you
know
this.
It
was
a
collective
decision.
F
We
opted
for
a
3
pm
meeting
just
to
be
able
to
have
some
form
of
conversation
on
this
particular
issue.
It
is
not
to
set
a
precedent,
moving
forward
that
we're
going
to
be
hosting
regular
3
P.M
meetings,
but
in
this
particular
situation
it
ended
up
being
a
very
perfect
storm,
resulting
in
us
having
to
host
this
meeting
at
3
pm.
A
P
Think
others
have
raised
this
as
well,
but
I
want
to
associate
myself
with
the
comments
of
Commissioners,
Garen
and
troll
I'm
kind
of
shocked
that
we
would
end
up
in
a
situation
where
we
would
have
where
that's
I
understand.
There
were
unappealing
Alternatives
I'm
shocked
that
this
was
one
of
those
Alternatives
and
I
I.
Just
don't
see
that
I
understand
that
it
is
not
to
create
and
to
intentionally
create
a
precedent,
but
when
we
do
schedule
things
like
that,
it
does
create
that
precedent
and
says.
P
Well,
oh
you
know
we
were
at
a
similarly,
you
know
chaotic
month
because
we
might
have
another
month
where
you
know
the
pressure
is
local.
You
know
lead
to
this
and
then
it
becomes
more
habit-based
and
you
know
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
forces
will
will
continue
to
have
that
happen
once
you
allow
it
so
I'm,
I'm
kind
of
horrified
as
a
strong
word,
but
I'm
highly
suspect
that
this
is
is
the
resolution
we
arrived
at
and
I
do
not
support
that
yeah
I
I
I'm.
AD
P
F
Was
scheduled,
particularly
because
we
were
worried
about
what
was
happening
in
terms
of
what
we
were
seeing
already
with
attendance
during
that
week
in
a
week
that
we
were
already
having
missing
middle
conversations,
we're
having
missing
middle
on
on
December
12th
we're
having
missing
middle
again
on
December
15th.
This
is
a
December
13th
meeting.
We
did
not
have
the
ability
to
schedule
this
in
the
evening.
The
only
availability
was
to
try
to
set
it
at
three
o'clock
we
made.
F
We
took
every
precaution
possible
to
ensure
we
would
have
at
least
three
people
at
that
meeting,
which
includes
both
of
your
zoko
chairs
as
well.
As
commissioner
Lynn
tell
me,
listen
guys.
This
is
not
ideal
and
and
I
think
what
we're
hearing
already
is
saying
that
this
is
not
our
preferred
course
in
terms
of
moving
forward,
but
you
know,
unfortunately,
we're
in
a
situation
where,
if
this
does
not
get
heard
this
day
at
this
time,
it's
not
getting
hurt
until
January.
It's
not
ideal,
it's
not
what
we
want.
F
We
all
get
it,
but
this
is
kind
of
where
we
are
and
we'll
have
to
try
to
do
whatever
we
can.
Next
year,
to
make
sure
we
don't
find
ourselves
in
this
position
again,
but
December
also
ended
up
being
a
time
when
we
added
meetings
to
our
schedule
that
shouldn't
have
been
there.
We
weren't
supposed
to
have
all
these
meetings.
In
December
we
weren't
supposed
to
have
especially
scheduled
meetings
on
December,
12th
and
December
15th.
We
would
have
had
more
flexibility.
We
would
have
been
able
to
have
meetings
in
the
evening,
but
these
are.
B
There's
there's
another
there's
another
item
to
note
there
too,
which
is
that
that
if
I
remember
right,
the
I
believe
that
this
item
had
already
been
advertised
for
the
board
to
hear
in
January
or
was
on
path
for
being
advertised
to
the
board.
Here
on
January
and
and
candidly,
we,
you
know
we
have
to
be
mindful
of
the
limitations
of
the
of
the
office
of
the
Planning
Commission,
and
one
of
those
limitations
is
that
we
are
not
the
ones
who
request
to
advertise
right.
B
B
Does
when
this.
If
this
is
going
to
come
to
the
commission,
does
it
come
to
the
commission
with
the
benefit
of
a
zoning
committee
report
or
not,
and-
and
it
sounds
like
there
may
be,
people
who
believe
and
I
don't
know
that
I
would
disagree
with
that
proposition
that
it
would
be
better
to
not
come
to
the
commission
with
the
zoning
committee
report
than
than
to
schedule
meetings
during
the
work
day
and
that's
a
perfectly
valid
outcome
as
far
as
I'm
concerned.
B
I
just
want
to
remind
people
that
this
is.
This
is
one
of
those
cases
where
the
decision
and-
and
you
know
it-
I
I-
take
the
I,
take
the
rap
as
much
as
anyone
for
the
the
decision
that
was
made,
but
where
the
decision
was
made
in
order
to
try
to
make
sure
that,
should
it
come
to
the
commission
at
all,
did
it
have
the
benefit
of
that
of
having
had
some
thoughtfulness
put
into
it
at
the
zoning
committee
level?
B
And
if
it's
not
going
to
come
to
the
commission,
then
it's
either
some
thoughtfulness
at
the
zoning
committee
level
or
no
thoughtfulness
representing
the
commission
whatsoever.
So
that's
you
know
again.
These
are
your
I.
Your
criticisms
and
concerns
are
entirely
valid.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
people
understand
the
circumstances
that
the
decision
was
made
and
commissioner
Peterson
I
see
you
thank.
L
You
so
I
I
definitely
think
that
it
makes
sense
for
the
zoko
meetings
to
be
scheduled
at
a
time
when
the
majority
of
commission
members
can
attend.
That
said,
I
just
want
to
point
out
very
gently
that
the
nine
to
five
workday
is
a
very
white
collar
sort
of
schedule,
and
there
are
people
who
are
maybe
hourly
wage
people
who
three
to
five
might
actually
be
ideal
for
them.
L
I
am
assuming
that
that
is
not
us,
and
since
we
are
tend
to
be
the
ones
that
attend
those
meetings,
you
know
it
might
not
make
sense
to
consider
that,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
point.
I
also
wanted
to
make
the
point
that
we
have
done
walking
tours
at
lunchtime
during
the
standard
work
day,
and
we've
also
done
Brown
Bag
meetings
where
we
talked
about
development
happening
in
Clarendon.
L
L
G
Thank
you
I
understand
that
we
have
had
walking
towards
the
lunchtime
and
I'm
one
of
the
people
who
say
I'm
worried
that
that
doesn't
accommodate
my
colleagues
on
PC
and
the
other
appointed
commissions
whom
we
invite
to
this
I
understand,
commissioner
Peterson's
point
about
accommodating
different
work
days
and
I've
praised
staff
when
we've
had
informational
meetings
at
other
times.
But
if
we're
scheduling
a
meeting
in
the
middle
of
the
work
day,
knowing
most
of
us,
our
colleagues
can't
make
it
and
we're
the
ones
having
the
discussion.
I
feel
very
discouraged.
G
AA
So
both
commissioner
Patel
myself
agreed
that
having
a
meeting
at
this
less
than
ideal
situation,
A
Time
was
better
than
just
drafting
a
memo
which
would
suffice,
and
apparently
there
is
precedent
for
that.
I
am
not
privy
to
it,
but
I
think
there's
precedence.
So
this
was
a
little
bit
of
the
compromise.
This
was
not
the
best
and
not
the
worst,
and
it
came
sort
of
as
this
compromised
position
and
I.
Hopefully
it
won't
be
a
precedent
setting,
but
we
are
deferring
to
a
precedent.
N
W
I
encourage
you,
as
you
move
forward,
to
consider
now
that
we've
come
back
to
almost
a
reset
of
how
we
engage
in
our
Public's
process,
how
we
move
forward.
As
a
commission,
you
all
have
the
chance
to
Define
what
it
is
in
the
future
As
you
move
forward
whether
it
is
an
entire
day
dedicated
to
all
the
meetings
which
been
proposed
by
some
people
before
that's
set
aside
in
the
month,
whether
it
is
it,
but
we
have
to
acknowledge
and
realize
and
I
know
that
the
the
chairs
I
understand
the
decision.
W
I
understand
why
it
was
made,
though
I
that's
what
I'll
leave
that
statement
at,
but
it
is
important
for
each
of
us
to
really
do
think
about.
The
question
we
have
you
know:
is
the
past
7
PM
meeting
the
best
thing
and
try
to
take
that
with
you
and
work
without
your
colleagues,
because
I
would
encourage
you
I
think
that
there's
a
better
way
to
do
this
in
the
future,
because
almost
all
of
us
work
and
I
I
know
a
lot
of
us
work
full
time.
W
So
you
know
it
would
be
one
thing
if
you
asked
me
to
take
off
a
day
and
commit
it
to
doing
the
entire
day
of
12
hours,
not
fun,
but
maybe
Anthony
would
buy
lunch,
but
that
sort
of
mentality.
So
don't
don't
confine
yourself
with
the
concept
of
exclusively
what
has
been
the
past,
but
do
recognize
that
if
you're
going
to
deviate
from
the
past
it
does
it
does.
As
commissioner
Schultz
say
it's
it's
what
the
expectation
is,
and
so
it
is,
it
is
a
big
deal
to
begin
it.
W
So
just
that's
what
I
leave
you
with
to
think
about
next
five
months,
because
I'd
love
to
see
you
guys
do
something
different.
You
know
in
two
years
from
now
come
in
on
a
PC
day
where
I
just
take
off
and
say
I'm
just
going
to
watch
you
guys
with
popcorn
but
think
about
it
in
in
that
mentality.
So
I
think
with
that
commissioner,
beer
I'm
ready.
B
Well,
I
mean
it's
something
of
an
awkward
spot
of
trying
to
either
synthesize,
or
at
least
affirm
the
comments
made
by
my
colleagues,
but
not
really
being
in
a
position
to
promise
that
anything
will
be
done
about
them.
B
Other
than
to
say
that
we
have
all
been
working
together
for
some
time
and
and
I
I
I
am
confident
and
I
I
hope
that
you
all
remain
confident
that
that
your
very
thoughtful
colleagues
will
be
mindful
of
the
comments
that
that
you
have
expressed
and
I
ask
at
the
same
time
that
that
people
be
mindful
of
the
fact
that,
as
as
we've
heard
from
commissioner
Peterson
and
just
now
from
kashmirer
Hughes,
that
there
are,
there
is
an
extent
to
which
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
and
rethinking
and
sometimes
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
is
going
to
be
called
for,
are
going
to
be
warranted.
B
And
you
know
it's
entirely
possible
and
I
hope
that
we're
able
to
move
on
it's
entirely
possible
that
that
things
would
have
been
done
differently
in
under
different
circumstances.
B
B
Part
of
that
means
speaking
up
when
we
think
that
other
people
got
it
wrong
and,
and
part
of
that
means
trusting
that
that
we,
as
colleagues
who
are
thoughtful
and
deliberative,
will
do
what
we
can
to
to
be
mindful
of
the
feedback
that
we
get
along
the
way.
I
I,
don't
I
feel
some
obligation
to
try
to
put
a
a
button
or
a
bow
on
this,
and
that's
that's
the
the
source
of
of
my
comments,
but
thank
you
to
those
of
you.
Who've
expressed
your
concerns.
P
B
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Steinberger
commissioner
Hughes
performance
code,
advisory
working
group.
W
W
AD
Enough
I,
believe
and
I
would
want
to
go
back
and
confirm
this,
but
I
believe
I've
been
I've
been
referring
to
it.
In
my
own
mind
as
the
master
financing
and
development
plan
there
we
go
I
think
it's
those
four
words
in
whether
it's
in
that
exact
order
or
some
variation.
W
Anyways,
the
the
72
pages
of
reading
pleasure
relating
to
the
bar
Croft
developments
plans
as
they
they
sort
of
amalgamate
themselves.
You
all
will
be
engaged
in
that
discussion
over
the
coming,
probably
18
months.
If
you
want
my
guess,
sort
of
working
that
one
out
laughs.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner
Hughes.
So
I
am
mindful
of
the
fact
that
we
still
have
another.
Well,
let
me
just
ask
Madam
clerk:
is
there
any
other
commission
business
other
than
elections
to
go
through.
C
B
You
so
I'm.
Typically
we
do
this
on
the
last
night
I'm,
mindful
of
the
fact
that
we
still
have
a
number
of
miles
to
go
before
we
get
any
sleep,
but
I
do
want
to
take
the
opportunity
to
give
the
the
end
of
your
chairs
report.
B
While
we
still
have
some
minutes
and
and
while
we
do
still
like
each
other,
so
I,
but
but
but
in
earnestness,
I
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
your
dedication
to
this
commission's
work
over
the
past
year
and
especially
as
we
had
the
opportunity
to
resume
our
meetings
in
person
while
continuing
to
make
room
for
hybrid
and
for
remote
participation.
It
was
a
difficult
switch,
as
we
have
just
discussed
and
I
maintained.
B
That
I
have
been
pleased
with
how
it
has
gone,
as
I
told
the
board
when
I
represented
the
commission.
The
last
time
I
represented
the
commission.
I
have
no
doubt
that
this
this
commission,
the
10
of
us
at
the
time,
I,
included
the
two
people
who
were
still
on
the
commission
when
I
was
elected,
chair
and
I
I
would
still.
But
it's
been.
The
10
of
us
is
the
most
credible
and
most
thoughtful
and
most
socially
conscientious.
B
B
There's
two
more
items
of
business.
I
will
say
that
I
am
delighted
to
be
able
to
move
the
nomination
of
commissioner
devachi
Patel
to
chair
the
Planning
Commission
for
2023.
DaVinci
is
a
past
officer
of
the
John
M
Langston
civic
association,
a
lifelong
arlingtonian,
a
dedicated
and
highly
regarded
member
of
the
Arlington
County
Legal
Community,
a
committed
public
interest
lawyer
and
advocate
for
healthy
children,
youth
and
families.
B
And,
of
course,
as
you
know,
a
treasured
member
of
this
Commission
I
have
leaned
on
her
for
her
wisdom
and
her
judgment
over
the
past
year
and
I
am
honored
to
call
her
a
colleague
and
a
close
friend
can
I
get
a
second.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner,
tell
me
you
beat
commissioner
Hughes
by
about
a
fraction
of
his
sister
outside
by
about
a
fraction
of
a
second.
Maybe
commissioner,
Hughes
too
I
believe
that
it
that
I
need
to
call
the
role
and.
B
I
was
just
correcting
myself,
but
thank
you.
Yes,
perhaps
correcting
myself,
because
I
saw
your
light
go
on.
Are
there
any
other
nominations?
B
Hearing
nana
I
am
closing
nominations
and
I'm
going
to
call
the
roll
on
the
vote
for
electing
commissioner
Patel
our
only
nominee
as
chair
commissioner
Begley
I
foreign.
L
B
Sarley
aye
commissioner
schroll
aye,
commissioner
Steinberger,
the
chair
votes.
I.
The
motion
carries
congratulations,
commissioner.
Future
chair
Patel,
the
next
item
on
order
would
be.
The
nomination
would
be
the
election
for
a
vice
chair
for
next
year.
Commissioner
Patel,
do
you
have
a
motion.
A
F
Thank
you,
so
listen
I
wrote
a
couple
of
things
on
just
because
I
wanted
to
say
it's
been
my
pleasure
serving
as
Daniel's
Vice
chair
as
you
can
imagine,
we've
had
a
lot
of
laughs.
F
No
seriously,
it's
been
my
distinct
pleasure
and
privilege
to
be
your
Vice
chair,
your
commitment
and
thoughtfulness
to
preparing
for
a
PC
meetings,
your
investment
in
your
time
and
energy,
to
make
sure
that
these
meetings
run
smoothly
that
everybody
understands
what's
going
on,
dare
I
say
that
that
energy
and
that
thoughtfulness
is
palpable
for
each
one
of
us.
F
It's
also
been
my
honor
to
work
with
each
one
of
you
more
closely
this
past
year.
Your
thoughts
on
on
what
we
need
to
do,
what
we
need
to
continue
to
do
to
work
as
diligently
and
thoughtfully
and
to
continue
serving
our
amazing
Community
with
with
what
will
be
very
full
plates
in
2023,
has
been
very
much
appreciated,
including
this
most
recent
conversation
on
whether
we
have
3
pm
meetings.
F
Listen
I
came
on
to
Planning
Commission
when
when
commissioner
schroll
was
the
chair
of
Planning
Commission
and
then
thereafter,
commissioner
skier
and
then
tell
me,
and
now
we're
it's
been
my
privilege
to
learn
from
each
one
of
you,
particularly
you
today,
Sarah
sitting
right
next
to
me,
it's
been
my
privilege
to
learn
from
your
style
from
your
grace
I
look
forward
to
building
on
the
tremendous
Foundation
that
each
one
of
you
has
laid,
including
pushing
for
more
uncomfortable
conversations
steeped
in
racial
and
social
Equity.
F
Even
if
that
means
simple
things
like
making
sure
that
renderings
that
are
presented
to
Planning
Commission
from
applicants
better
represent
the
diverse
community
that
we
live
in
and
so
I
will
say.
Thank
you
very
much
for
each
of
you
for
your
vote
of
confidence
and,
and
it
is
really
my
privilege
and
pleasure
to
nominate
my
appointment,
twin
Sharon,
Sarah
and
I
share
the
same
appointment
date.
F
Honestly,
it
is
like
I'm
gleeful
to
be
able
to
make
this
nomination.
I
would
be
I
move
yes
to
a
point
as
Vice
chair.
Yes,
no
I
nominate
I
nominate
Sarah
Steinberger
to
serve
as
the
vice
chair
for
the
Planning
Commission
Sarah
was
appointed
to
Planning
Commission
in
2019,
and
she
served
on
the
Arlington
historic
Affairs
and
landmark
review
board
from
2016
to.
F
2019
she
was
also
the
vice
chair
of
the
Arlington
County
World
War,
One,
commemoration
task
force
and
she
completed
her
service
on
that
task
force
in
2018..
She
holds
a
JD
from
Temple
University
Beasley
School
of
Law.
She
also
lives.
Well,
you
don't
live
in
the
Boston
Neighborhood
anymore.
You've
moved
you've
moved
since
you
brought
your
bio
is
going
to
need
to
be
updated,
but
probably,
most
importantly,
she
is
the
mother
of
the
the
penultimate
future
PC
member,
because
Daniel
holds
that
distinct
privilege.
Now.
B
F
No,
you
well
not
yet
right
I,
just
added
someone
yeah,
you
just
did
yeah
not
me,
and
so
it
is
really
honestly
an
honor
to
be
able
to
nominate
Sarah
with
the
hopes
of
being
able
to
work
alongside
her
in
2023..
B
B
I
vote
I
motion
to
elect,
carries
congratulations,
Vice,
chairlet,
it's
time,
Burger.
B
Is
it
yeah?
Is
it
historically
I
think
that
we
also
ask
you
to
self-haze
by
making
remarks
so.
P
Great
yeah
I
really
wanted
to
say
that
I'm
extremely
excited
to
get
to
serve
as
Vice
chair
with
our
chair,
elect
commissioner
tell
and
yeah
we
are
our
appointment,
twinsies
or
whatever.
That
may
mean
for.
P
And
yeah
I
just
really
looking
forward.
It's
been
a
very
educational
experience
being
on
Planning
Commission
for
the
past
years
and
going
from
in
person
to
not
in
person
to
back
in
person
and
figuring
out.
You
know
the
the
balance
of
all
that
and
I
have
very
much
enjoyed
working
with
all
of
you
and
learning
from
all
of
you
and
looking
forward
to
another
year
of
what
I
know
will
be
further
education.
B
Thank
you.
Is
there
any
other
items
that
need
to
be
addressed
this
evening?
Thank
you
for
not
adding
anything.
So
thank
you
to
staff
applicants,
members
of
the
public
for
your
time,
consideration
this
evening.
Thank
you
also
to
the
many
staff
who
worked
to
make
tonight's
in-person
in
the
hybrid
meeting.
The
commission
will
reconvene
on
Monday
December
12th
to
hear
the
remaining
item
on
our
agenda.
Until
then,
the
commission
is
in
recess.