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A
C
F
Welcome
everyone
to
this
three
site
plan
review
committee,
sprc
meeting
for
the
development
on
sort
of
Team
state
that
we're
familiar
with
the
college,
the
YMCA
tonight
we
are
holding
a
hybrid
public
meeting
which
enables
remote
electronic
participation
as
legally
authorized
by
the
code
of
Virginia
for
the
planning
commission's
electronic
meeting
policy
adopted
on
July
7
2022
members
of
the
sdrc
subgroup
for
the
YMCA
site
plan
are
participating
both
here
in
person
and
virtually
through
Electronics
means.
F
If
you
lose
internet
connectivity
during
the
meeting,
please
reconnect
by
phone,
please
keep
your
phones
and
devices
muted
until
you're
called
upon
and
turn
off
sound
to
any
other
devices
around
you
to
minimize
interference
and
for
our
virtual
attendees
using
teams.
Please
turn
off
your
video
feed.
I
will
address
when
to
put
that
on.
In
just
a
moment.
The
team's
meeting
chat
is
active
for
only
two
purposes.
F
Please
do
not
discuss
anything
substantive
in
there
it's
there
for
if
you
need
technical
assistance
for
the
sprc
subgroup
members
and
for
anyone
on
the
public
who's
participating
virtually.
Who
would
like
to
speak
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
during
public,
so
we
can't
use
the
chat
for
discussion.
Those
who
are
playing
to
provide
public
comment
will
still
need
to
do
so
at
the
end
of
the
meeting,
as
the
chat
will
not
serve
as
that
opportunity.
F
However,
you
should
know
you
can
always
send
comments
into
County
staff
or
to
the
board,
and
they
are
retained
that
way.
But
if
you
wanted
to
participate
tonight,
that's
at
the
end
of
the
meeting,
so
additional
notes
for
our
subgroup
members.
If
you
wish
to
be
recognized
to
speak
on
an
item
during
the
course
of
the
discussion,
please
turn
on
your
video
feed
and
raise
your
virtual
hand
and
teams.
F
If
you're
able
to
do
so
and
then
I
or
Pierre,
who
will
introduce
in
a
moment,
will
be
monitoring
that
so
that
we
make
sure
we
don't
miss
you
and,
if
you're
participating
by
a
phone
today
without
the
video
option,
please
announce
the
name
and
the
group
that
you're
representing
now
and
in
fact
I
do
need
to
know
that
now,
if
there's
anyone
who's
representing
who's,
part
of
the
approved
roster
for
the
sprc
who's
participating
by
phone.
F
All
right,
okay,
super
thank
you
is
she
by
phone
or
she's
virtual
she'll,
be
able
we'll
be
able
to
see
him
I
think
one
phone
yeah,
okay,
okay,
so
our
members
of
the
public
who
would
like
to
provide
feedback
or
comment
you'll
be
called
on
to
speak
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
and
you'll
be
allowed
at
one
to
two
minutes.
Depending
on
how
many
people
do
you
want
to
speak?
F
If
you
wish
to
speak,
please
enter
your
name
in
the
meeting
chat
for
the
virtual
attendees
or
provide
staff
with
your
name
if
you're
in
person
and
you'll
be
added
to
your
speaker
list.
For
me
and
again
this
is
a
public
forum,
so
our
meeting
will
be
recorded
and
posted
to
the
County
website.
All
information
associated
with
today's
meeting,
whether
written
or
spoken,
is
subject
to
Freedom
of
Information
Act
requirement.
F
I
want
to
remind
folks
for
those
of
you
who
haven't
participated
in
one
of
these
in
a
while.
This
is
a
pre-sprc
meeting,
so
we
have
a
very
focused
agenda
to
review
some
changes
that
were
made
by
the
applicant
since
the
online.
F
Okay,
with
that,
I
would
like
to
have
the
sprc
members,
those
who
are
identified
as
representing
an
appointed
commission
or
one
of
the
local
Civic
associations,
identify
themselves
and
introduce
themselves
so
we'll
go
around
the
table.
First,
we'll
skip
you
guys
for
now.
So
we'll
start
with
Nia
be
a
Bagley
Planning.
F
Excellent
is
there
anyone
sitting
around
the
table,
who
is
part
of
Transportation
park
and
rec
housing,
bicycle
advisory,
disability,
advisory,
halrv,
Economic,
Development,
bromptons,
okay
and
then
for
our
virtual
attendees,
who
are
part
of
the
sqrc?
Would
you
mind
introducing
yourselves.
F
F
Mission
or
a
recognized
neighborhood
group,
excellent
I'm,
Elizabeth,
Garrett
I'm,
a
member
of
the
Planning
Commission
and
I'm
chairing
this
I
would
like
to
go
into
staff
now.
This
is
Peter's.
F
F
C
F
Okay,
excellent
welcome.
So
thank
you.
Everyone,
tonight's
agenda.
The
order
we're
going
to
go
on
is
very
similar
to
what
we
normally
do
with
an
sprc
meeting,
we'll
have
a
short
developer,
presentation,
10
minutes,
and
then
we
will
immediately
after
have
a
staff
presentation
and
that
will
focus
on
how
the
developer
proposal
corresponds,
with
the
guidance
of
the
special
club
plus
this
process
that
some
of
us
went
through
several
years
ago
and
the
outstanding
staff
issues
and,
if
needed,
any
any
explanation
to
clarify
this
process.
F
Then,
after
that,
we'll
have
a
discussion
around
the
table
regarding
the
revised
site
layout,
the
building
submission
yes,
I.
F
S
F
Welcome
thank
you
for
joining
us.
Thank
you,
okay.
So,
as
I
was
saying,
we'll
have
these
two
presentations.
First
then,
we'll
have
discussion
around
the
table.
First
time,
the
revised
site
layout,
the
revised
building
separation,
the
widths
and
layouts
and
the
pathways
through
the
site
and
the
size
and
possible
programming
of
those
revised
open
spaces,
and
then
we
will
have
a
discussion
on
the
revised
building
massing
and
height
and
then,
after
that
we
will
have
public
comment.
So
we've
we've
broken
the
agenda
up
into
some
discrete
parts.
So
we'll
start
with
the
developer
presentations.
H
T
T
P
Enough
to
talk.
T
About
the
changes
that
We've
made
and
we
have
been
very
busy
since
our
online
engagement,
so
let's
go
through
Canada,
we'll
get
started,
as
many
of
you
know
the
why
it's
been
there
since
1944
time
for
an
update,
a
refresh
of
this
site
and
the
programs
they
provide,
keep
going
so
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
give
you
a
vicinity
map,
Washington,
Boulevard,
I'll,
run
it
right
down
the
middle
Kirkwood
up
to
the
top
and
then
above
the
yellow
is
13th
Street
and
you
can
see.
Two
Metro
is
very
close.
T
T
So
this
is
our
original
plan,
our
original
site
plan.
So
you
can
see
a
lot
of
grain.
There's
a
tree
preservation
area
up
in
the
top
I'm
going
to
talk
about
in
just
a
few
minutes.
This
is
our
revised
plan,
even
more
green,
so
our
buildings
got
smaller,
particularly
the
YMCA
pulled
in
substantially
I
want
to
discuss
that
more.
In
just
a
moment.
I.
T
H
P
T
T
So
this
is
the
residential
building
on
the
western
side,
it's
eight
feet
closer,
and
so
our
setback
is
old
and
84
or
so
I'm.
Sorry,
the
YMCA
eight
foot
farther
Separation
on
the
western
side,
the
left
side,
five
feet
farther
away
from
13th
Street
at
the
North
and
40
feet,
increase
pulling
it
back
to
the
West
on
the
left,
right
side
or
east
side
of
the
site.
So
we've
done
some
major
contraction
on
the
side
of
the
size
of
the
YMCA
next
slide.
T
Go
okay,
so
this
is
the
residential
building.
We
were
asked
to
pull
it
back
from
Mill
Creek
project
to
give
more
room
to
this
East-West
connection.
We've
done
that
so
we've
added
another
20
feet
of
separation
and
the
East-West
connection,
which
I'll
talk
about
just
a
minute.
It's
gotten
that
much
wider,
so
excellent.
T
So
this
is
the
height
of
the
building.
This
is
our
original
proposal.
This
is
you're
standing
on
13th
Street,
looking
at
the
YMCA.
At
that
time
we
had
a
tennis
above
it
was
62
feet
in
height
next
slide,
so
we've
reduced
it
dramatically.
Now
it's
20
to
25
feet
on
that.
Western
Edge,
which,
as
you
can
see,
is
smaller
than
some
of
the
townhouses
or
single
family
units
in
the
immediate
vicinity,
which
generally
could
be
as
high
as
35
feet.
So
the
side
has
got
substantially
small,
smaller
and
tight
and
mass.
T
T
P
T
Is
some
open
space
which
I'll
discussed
in
just
a
minute
or
Western
open
space
next
slide?
This
is
the
other
side
of
the
project.
The
residential
building.
This
is
from
above
Kirkwood,
and
this
is
the
residential
site
next
slide
very
similar
before
we,
just
as
you
can
see,
there's
a
step
back.
The
32
feet
is
the
height
along
13th
Street,
to
give
a
mass
and
form
similar
to
the
townhouses
across
the
street
that
steps
back
about
19
feet
and
it
goes
to
the
full
height
of
the
building.
This
is
the
original
view.
T
If
you
were
in
a
you
know,
a
balloon
above
Washington
Boulevard,
looking
down
between
app
on
your
left
and
Mill
Creek
on
your
right.
You
can
see
it's
fairly
tight
constrained.
Here's
the
new
separation
we've
got
more
separation
between
the
buildings.
All
the
green
trees,
you
see
are
new
trees.
The
white
tree
is
existing
Everything
Green
is
new,
so
we've
added
double
rows
of
trees
all
over
the
place.
Frankly,
so
we
hope
that's
an
exciting
development
for
folks.
T
T
Yeah,
so
this
is
one
of
the
major
connections
prescribed
and
considered
in
this
plan.
This
is
our
original
proposal,
which
had
a
six
foot
wide
path.
Let's
go
back
to
that
one.
Just
for
a
moment.
We
could
of
a
six
foot
wide
path
with
an
Amphitheater
in
the
center.
It
didn't
mean
ADA
requirements
in
the
center
of
this.
It
was
just
our
grade
is
very
challenging.
It's
about
30
feet
from
one
side
to
the
other,
very
challenging.
T
Is
our
new
proposal
we're
now
at
15
foot
wide
Trail?
Are
width
of
this
East-West
connection
is
40
feet
on
one
end
up
to
55
feet,
so
we've
dramatically
increased
the
width.
We
think
the
feel
of
our
East-West
connection,
we've
added
a
second
row
of
double
row
of
trees.
It
really
is
a
Clear
Sight
lines
which
county
staff
had.
You
know
parted
to
us.
T
Go
through
this
project
and
again
you
can
see
the
grade.
We
are
at
five
percent
the
whole
way
cross,
which
is
the
limit
for
Ada.
So
it
was
a
real
challenge
to
get
to
that,
but
that
here
we
are.
The
last
proposal
did
not
do
that.
We
had
supportions
that
had
railings
that
were
not
ADA
Compliant
in
the
center
of
the
site.
It
is
not
fully
compliant
with
Ada.
T
These
are
some
open
spaces
and,
as
you
can
see,
we've
increased
our
open
space
once
again
now,
25
of
the
site,
nearly
an
acre
and
a
quarter
are
open
space.
Our
tree
canopy
is
up
to
25
again
prescribed
in
the
glove
study,
and
we
have,
as
you
can
see,
trees
and
Greenery
throughout
the
side.
I
want
to
take
you
through
those
various
sites.
T
We'll
talk
to
us
a
bit
about
that
next
slide,
so
this
is
another
connection
that
was
important
really
to
everyone.
The
north-south
connection.
This
goes
between
the
two
buildings.
It
goes
up
to
13th
Street
and
we've
got
direction
that
this
was
kind
of
a
tight
passageway
through
and
that
could
be
wided.
We
make
it
more
accessible
or
more
visually
accessible,
so
we've
gone
from
30
feet
to
48
feet
as
well:
we've
added
additional
trees.
The
entrance
on
13th
Street
went
from
five
feet
to
15
feet
and.
T
T
So
here
we're
going
to
our
shared
access
drive.
This
is
on
the
left
side
of
our
western
side
of
our
development.
It
connects
up
with
the
APA
North
Kansas
extension,
so
it
really
is
a
direct
connection.
We
talked
with
work
with
staff
about
that
they
wanted
to
have
a
direct
connection
through
our
original
proposal.
Had
it
was
really
shared
access
drive
that
had
papers
of
different
varieties,
that
County
staff
felt
will
be
more
perfect
to
have
a
discreet
sidewalk,
which
we
have
now.
T
We've
widened
that
area
by
eight
feet,
as
I
mentioned,
we
shipped
it
building
over
HP,
so
we
now
have
a
dedicated
sidewalk
area
of
six
foot.
Six
on
the
right
side
on
the
right
side,
we've
added
additional
Landscaping
tree
coverage
and
a
dedicated
sidewalk.
The
paver
is
also
the
treatment
from
North
Kansas
carries
through,
but
only
carries
through
to
our
garage
entrance,
which
is
on
the
bottom
right.
So
we
wanted
folks
coming
off
of
Washington
to
our
site,
Washington
Boulevard,
to.
H
T
H
T
T
H
T
To
have
more
just
open,
lawn,
more
green
space,
more
trees,
we've
done
all
that,
so
we've
added
additional
trees
additional
lawn.
We
were
also
asking
what
what
might
happen
and
what
kind
of
uses
did
we
imagine,
and
we
thought
this
would
be
a
nice
place
for
really
quiet
uses
things
like
yoga,
meditation,
art
and
the
like,
so
not
a
heavy
active
use,
but
really
transition
to
the
neighborhood,
a
quiet
template
of
use
next
slide.
T
This
is
our
Central
open
space
in
the
bottom
center,
and
this
is
our
original
proposal
which
had
an
Amphitheater
and
that
path,
I
described
sort
of
running
in
a
circle
around
there.
T
We
have
changed
that,
though,
and
added
a
a
green
space.
We've
taken
out
the
we
go
back.
One
slide:
we've
taken
out
the
amphitheater
and
made
a
stronger
East-West
connection
and
in
turn,
created
nooks
and
crannies
next
slide
to
the
bottom,
and
we
view
this
as
something
maybe
an
environmental
or
a
environmental
therapy
Garden
where
it
activates
the
senses.
T
Sight
smell
touch,
We've
created
a
number
of
nooks
and
crannies
here
where
people
can
come
and
spend
time,
and
you
can
see,
there's
a
little
pad
site
in
there
little
areas
where
people
can
come
and
gather
and
congregate,
but
that's
our
view
of
what
might
be
used
there.
H
H
T
T
H
J
T
Mentioned
earlier,
we
have
a
fairly
tight
throat
to
the
original
proposal,
five
feet
up
at
13th
Street
and
the
building
itself,
as
it
shuts
out
near
the
purple
circle.
It's
fairly
close
to
the
root
zone
of
these
mature
trees.
Are
we
near
we're?
Almost
there,
we've
got
like
two
more
slots,
so
here's
our
next
version.
We
pull
the
building
Back
40
feet,
so
we're
separated
from
that.
We
added
a
double
row
of
trees,
as
you
can
see
in
the
top
left
on
13th
Street
and
widen
the
width
of
that
throughway.
T
So
that's
it
so
here's
our
summary
I
can
go
through
it
if
you
want,
but
you
just
heard
it
so
I'm
not
sure
you
needed
to
hear
it
again,
but
we'll
get
pretty
close
to
10
minutes.
F
F
A
F
A
Okay,
just
to
show
presentation:
this
is
actually
the
tonight's
agenda.
So
in
the
staff
report
too,.
H
C
A
A
A
This
is
also
the
guidance
adopted
showing
the
proposed
sculpting
for
this
site.
Three
stories
tapering
up
to
four
stories
and
then
six
to
seven
stories
in
the
middle
of
the
site
is
also
the
land
use
guidance
for
the
site,
showing
a
new
Kansas
Street,
a
western
open
space,
existing
trees
and
a
mid-block
throughway
now
just
to
refresh
everybody's
memory.
Since
this
has
been
seven
months
ago
since
the
seven
or
eight
months
since
the
original,
the
first
online
engagement
period
of
the
first
presentations
we've
been
working
really
hard.
We've.
A
Staff's
original
comments
on
this
proposal,
just
as
a
reminder,
our
concerns
were
transitioned
to
the
neighborhood.
Both
buildings,
both
the
residential
and
the
proposed
YMCA
building
and,
in
particular
highlighted,
was
the
lack
of
tapering,
not
necessarily
the
overall
height,
but
the
lack
of
tapering
along
the
north
Kansas
Street,
which
envisioned
three
to
four-story
tapering
up
to
six
to
seven
stories,
and
here
it
was
more
or
less
a
straight
four
stories,
at
least
four
or
five
stories
in
this
location.
A
This
shows
you
know
against
staff's
guidance
about
the
and
the
reason
the
developer
has
revised
the
internal
circulation
Network.
We
were
concerned
about
the
visibility,
the
pub
the
feeling
of
public
openness
on
the
various
connections
through
the
site,
as
the
club
study
envisioned,
and
in
this
case
these
connections
will
be
bicycle
and
pedestrian
connections,
except
for
North
Kansas
Street,
which
will
accommodate
vehicles
public
spaces.
A
A
A
Overall,
this
site
is
being
driven
by
the
fact
that
it's
two
separate
buildings,
while
one
of
the
principals
in
the
special
glove
study
envisioned
vertical
mixed
use,
we
did
identify
issues
where
the
building
Footprints
seemed
to
be
quite
larger
than
anticipated
and
again
encroaching
on
those
Open
Spaces
in
the
East-West
and
north-south
connections,
which
we
actually
do
think
the
developer
has
has
done
to
address.
There
are
some
unresolved.
H
A
At
the
more
granular
level,
but
the
pathway
system,
as
you
see,
the
developer
has
reduced
the
footprint
of
the
YMCA.
The
footprint
of
the
Residential
Building
shifted
a
bit
to
provide
a
lower,
but
it's
more
or
less
the
same
size
ultimately
and
then,
just
as
our
density
analysis
differed
from
the
developers
in
a
way
that
staff
could
not
support
legally
precedent,
thereby
the
developer
has
in
order
to
fulfill
their
program
here,
had
to
earn
additional
density
through
the
privilege
of
community.
A
H
A
Know
shape,
as
shown
on
these
plans
or,
but
we
did
expect
through
the
special
Club
study
about
half
an
acre
and
I
was
about
seven
thousand
per
square
feet
again.
You
know
that
that
is
something
that
we
will
still
list
as
an
outstanding
and
again
the
principle
12.
Well,
the
developer
does
meet
many
of
the
principles
in
the
plan
adopted
by
the
County
board
for
this
site.
Principal
12
did
Envision
vertical
mixed
use,
necessarily
been
than
separate
buildings
as
an
example
here
of
a
mixed
use.
Why?
A
We
also
had
you
know,
of
course,
the
APPA
building,
where
the
American
Legion,
admittedly,
which
has
a
smaller
program
of
the
American
Legion,
is
able
to
fit
into
so
that
is
an
outstanding
issue
with
the
compliance
with
all
of
the
principles
sector.
Special
Club
study.
A
A
If
the
developer
chooses
to
continue
with
this
a
Project
based
on
the
comments
that
they
receive
here
from
the
sprc
and
from
the
public,
they
will
have
to
file
a
new
set
of
revised
plans
which
will
take
some
time
to
analyze,
and
then
we
will
have
to
have
at
least
two
full
hybrid
meetings
of
the
sprc
just
like
this
one.
So
it
will
not
be
in.
H
A
F
Hope
you
were
able
to
hear
that
so
now
we're
going
to
begin
the
discussion
around
the
table.
Would
anyone
like
to
start
comments
on
this
and
remember
part
of
this
is
because
the
Y
would
like
to
know
if
they're
getting
close,
if
they're
going
in
the
right
direction
so
that
they
can
prepare
a
more
formal
site
plan
application,
so
they're
looking
for
feedback
at
this
stage.
E
It's
concerning
to
me
that
we
still
have
staff
reservations
about
this
as
a
veteran
of
the
what
meetings
and
several
nights
weeks
days
years
after
this
whole
process
and
believing
that
we
arrived
our
neighbors
believing
we
arrived
at
a
spot
where
they
thought
they
knew
what
would
come
down
the
road
and
not
adhering
to
that
to
a
point
where
staff
is
concerned,
I
guess
I'm
curious,
applicant
applicants
that
this
is
okay
or
I.
C
T
Look
if
you
want
to
I
I
would
just
start
by
saying
I,
don't
think
we're
that
or
I
understand,
there's
still
some
issues
that
staff
and
developer
talking
about
together,
I
would
say,
there's
some
some
reasons
and
some
people
where
we
are
right
now,
for
example,
on
the
mixed
usage
shoot,
the
YMCA
has
very
large
spans
it
has
pool
it,
has
gymnasiums
extremely
challenging
to
have
very
large
spans
to
actually
do
mixed
use.
The
glove
itself
says
explore
the
idea
of
mixed
use.
T
T
And
there's
there's
concerns
about
security,
noise,
the
people
above
like
vibration
and,
frankly,
long-term
ownership.
You
know,
if
we're
going
to
put
them
all
in
the
same
building.
We
basically
have
to
do
a
condominium.
Well,
the.
Why
is
the
long-haul
player
they're
going
to
be
here
100
years
from
now?
They
may
want
to
redevelop.
They
may
want
to
change
and
roll
with
the
times
and.
T
H
T
Come
up
with
a
redesign
as
things
change
the
ready
movie
activities
that
can
be
thought
of
right
now
that
they
might
want
to
do
50
years
from
now,
but
so
anyway,
that's
that's
the
misuse
part
of
the
comment
you
heard
from
Peter.
The
second
part
about
the
the
half
acre
Park
when
Apple
the
Apple
project
was.
T
H
H
T
To
my
Recollections
had
a
had
a
series
of
images
that
I
think
show
kind
of
where
we
are,
but
part
of
the
problem
is
so,
is
that
11
I
can't.
H
H
T
Right
sorry,
I
want
to
just
go
up
one
more
to
10
10.
So,
but
basically,
the
original
idea
of
the
glove
study
was
connectivity
in
a
road
potentially
right
down
the
spine
of
this
development,
and
that
didn't
happen.
The
Apple
building
was
set
and
it
didn't
have
a
road
going
there
and
the
building
got
pushed
farther
back,
which
made
it
so
that
we
really
can't
enter
our
project
from
where
it
shows
in
that
plan,
and
so
the
only
real
way
to
enter
the
project,
at
least
from
our
perspective,
particularly
from
Washington
Boulevard
or.
I
T
The
neighborhood
wants
us
to
enter
is
from
North
Kansas
and
North.
Kansas
has
already
said
through
the
Apple
project
of
where
that
is.
It
goes
sort
of
straight
through
County
staff
has
directed
us
to
make
that
go
straight
through,
which
is
where
we
showed
on
our
proposal,
but
I
guess
I
would
just
say
that
there
are
some
things
that
have
happened
through
iterations
of
this
project
for
previously
approved
projects
that.
B
T
U
Yeah
I
I
would
add
that
it
did
say
to
explore
that
co-location,
but
there
was
always
envision,
there's
always
envisioned
that
there
would
be
more
than
just
one
structure
on
the
site
right
and
there
were
exhibits
that
were
shown,
but
they
weren't
once
again.
There's
a
lot
of
language
in
that
study.
That
says
these
are
aspirational
goals.
The
principal
actually
says
explore
it
was
explored
and
as
to
the
open
space,
as
David
was
saying
because
of
the
way
Apple
was
located,
which
was
a
little
bit
farther
north
than
was
originally
anticipated.
U
The
idea
of
that
Kansas
Street
of
kind
of
turning
the
street
and
then
going
back
up
to
the
north.
So
the
idea
of
so
the
north
of
the
Apple
building
they've,
actually
designed
as
a
Frontage
that
has
Street
trees
and
a
path
and
I
think
there
might
even
be
an
entrance
to
the
building
there.
And
if
you
look
at
the
general
land
use
plan,
it
kind
of
showed
this
street
that
would
go
up
and
then
turn
and
then
turn
again.
U
And
so
what
Dave's
saying
is
that
when
we
were
talking
with
staff
about
that
vehicular
connection,
we
knew
the
community
doesn't
want
a
lot
of
traffic
coming
to
13th
Street.
And
so
we
designed
the
piece
coming
from
13th
Street
to
the
YMCA
kind
of
entrance
as
a
shared
use,
path
to
kind
of
change.
The
treatment
of
the
pavement
there
to
slow
cars
down
and
have
the
vehicular
vehicles
to
the
South,
but
as
to
creating
that
road.
U
That
then,
would
turn
and
go
up
the
design
of
that
app,
a
frontage
at
the
North
and
the
fact
that
the
building
went
a
little
bit
farther
north
than
originally
anticipated
made
that
difficult
and
as
to
the
open
space.
While
there
was
a
picture
that
showed
a
certain
amount
of
open
space
and
there
was
a
discussion
I
think
at
one
of
the
earlier
s,
svrc
meetings
about
a
half
acre.
U
If
you
look
at
the
overall
open
space
on
the
site,
there
is
more
open
space
than
we
originally
anticipated,
and
what
we
have
focused
on
is
activating
the
open
space.
That's
next
to
the
Ball
Cemetery,
to
kind
of
take
the
Western
open
space
and
the
open
space
adjacent
to
the
Ball
Cemetery.
If
you
add
those
two
activated
program
spaces
together,
they
are
in
excess
of
a
half
acre,
so
it
wasn't
that
we
were
ignoring
it.
G
Right
I
came
in
late,
so
I
missed
instructions,
I
I'm,
struggling
a
little
bit
and
I
want
to
push
back
just
hopefully
gently
on
this
issue
that
the
site
layout
is
being
driven
by
some
of
the
grid.
Connectivity
issues
can
I
get
slide.
Eight
from
the
staff
presentation,
please,
as
you
probably
recall,
the
grid
connectivity
issues
were
a
matter
of
significant
discussion
and
debate,
particularly
with
respect
to
what
parts
of
the
of
the
grid
the
new
grid
would
be
vehicular
versus
pedestrian
priority
or
pedestrian.
G
Only
after
much
discussion
and
debate,
the
idea
was
that
the
consensus
was
that
we
would
have
vehicular
access
off
of
Kirkwood
in
part,
because
Kirkwood
would
be
the
source
of
any
vehicular
access,
as
opposed
to
crowding
vehicular
access
onto
or
from
13th
or
around
13th
to
to
Kansas.
In
fact,
if
you
look
at
the
intersection
of
Kansas
at
12,
which
you'll
see
adjacent
to
it,
is
pedestrian
and
bike
connectivity
right.
The
only
parts
of
this
where
we're
supposed
to
have
vehicular
access
are
off
of
Kirkwood
and
off
of
Washington
Boulevard.
G
No,
actually,
in
fact,
not
right,
that's
a
pedestrian
across
from
Linbrook
is,
is
pedestrian
and
bike
and
then
open
space
there's
vehicular
access
on
the
far
left.
But
but
what
what?
But
you
know
that
is
one
of
many
points
of
vehicular
access
into
this
site,
as
opposed
to
one
of
only
one
point
that
the
killer
access
under
under,
what's
being
proposed
right.
G
So
I
I,
don't
I
struggle
with
the
notion
that
the
site
layout
is
being
driven
by
Decisions
by
by
things
that
have
happened
subsequent
to
the
adoption
of
the
glove
when
it's
not
when
the,
when
the
site
layout
isn't
actually
reconciled
to
the
glove
where
the
site.
You
know
where
it's,
where
it's
within
the
applicant's
capacity
to
do
so
well,.
U
U
It
shows
vehicular
access
off
of
Kirkwood
coming
down
to
Washington
Boulevard,
there's
an
exhibit
within
that
club
study,
plus
that's
from
the
fifth
lrpc,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
talk
about
the
reason
why
that
vehicular
connection
is
so
difficult
was
because
of
the
grade
on
the
site
and
how
difficult
that
grade
was,
and
we
actually
evaluated
that
even
more
detail
when
we
did
the
Kirkwood
project
at
the
corner
of
Kirkwood
and
Washington
Boulevard,
and
so
that
picture
that
came
in
I
think
it
was
in
the
fifth
lrpc
meeting.
U
It
shows
up
in
the
glove
basically
showed
a
white
line
coming
along
from
12th
Street
to
the
north
south
connection,
basically
acknowledging
the
difficulty
of
that
vehicular
connection
now
as
to
the,
and
so
that's
why
we
worked
really
hard
with
staff
on
this
bike.
Head
became
the
connection
and
I
know
that
Rob
Gibson
and
others
were
part
of
that
conversation.
Unfortunately,
he
can't
be
here
tonight.
F
So
I
chaired
those
special
blood
meetings,
so
I
there's
a
reason.
This
is
what
we
landed
on
for.
F
C
F
What
was
adopted
by
the
County
Board,
this
was
you're
right,
it's
meant
to
be
Visionary,
but
it's
not
I
feel
like
we're.
Having
an
apples
and
oranges
conversation
where
we're
pointing
out
it
doesn't
feel,
like
staff
has
mandated
that
the
grid
needs
to
be
followed
this
closely.
That
there's
still
some
wiggle
room
to
modify
some
of
this,
and
what
I'd
really
like
Chum
board
is
a
little
bit
of
this
back
and
forth
on
there,
because
I'm
a
little
worried.
We
won't
get
to
hear
what.
F
V
Us
virtually
I
just
again,
I
have
not
participated
in
the
previous
conversations
around
the
site,
but
I.
Just
I
did
want
to
reiterate
that
in
my
briefing
with
Rob
Gibson,
he
did
mention
a
lot
of
what
Mr
Weir
has
has
spoken
of,
but
obviously
any
further
discussion
on
a
stop
level
should
be
with
him.
So
thanks
I'll.
F
Thank
you
very
much,
and
one
thing
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
do
when
we
are
focusing
on
these
areas
where
staff
still
has
some
concerns
is
looking
at,
maybe
what
the
intent
was
and
how
we
might
address
that
if
we
can't
address
it
this
way.
So
if
we
end
up
feeling
like
the
concern,
is
there's
not
enough
space
in
this
one
area,
did
we
have
a
vision
for
how
that
was
meant
to
be
used?
Is
that
going
to
be
made
up
in
another
area?
If
we're
concerned
about
that
cut
through
traffic?
F
L
Umca
I
didn't
think
we
were
going
to
be
talking
transportation
and,
as
you
know,
the
neighborhood
is
very
concerned
about
customer
traffic
very
concerned
about
trying
to
make
sure
that
it
doesn't
become
the
default
to
go
straight
from
Washington
to
13th
via
North
new
North
Kansas
such
that,
because
we
anticipated
Washington
Boulevard
is
good
again
severely
impacted
by
all
of
the
surrounding
developments
that
people
are
going
to
be
looking
for
easy
ways
out
in
Google.
Okay,
we'll
help
them
so
in
in
that
regard,
I
was
very
I
liked.
L
The
way
that
the
bump
in
the
road
was
established
north
of
the
of
the
of
the
of
the
garage
but
like
I
said
I
didn't
think
we're
talking
about
that
tonight
and
I
didn't
come
prepared
with
a
whole
bunch
of
I
did
look
at
the
traffic
analysis
in
237
pages
in
depth.
L
Yes,
we
love
what's
going
on
next
to
the
Ball
Cemetery,
but
also
people
will
will
experience
the
open
space
on
the
west
on
Old
Kansas
Street
on
13th
as
being
a
real
neighborhood
and
Community
benefit
more
than
the
other
ones
will
be
so
I
support,
staff's
position
that
this
we
should
look
at
this
with
a
more
within
creative
eye
and
in
that
light,
I
would
have
a
thought
about
this.
If
you
could
go
back
to
I,
think
the
overall
physician
I
don't
know
which
staff
but
the
staff
presentation
on.
L
The
reduction
of
the
footprint
we'll
talk
about
that
in
the
second
part
of
the
meeting
is
great
and
the
opportunities
that
creates
for
more
open
space
are
great,
but
has
anybody
thought
about
the
possibility
of
instead
of
having
the
north
south
pedestrian
bicycle
pathway
between
the
two
buildings?
Moving
that
also
to
the
west
side
of
the
of
the
Y
building
such
that?
That
would
be
part
of
the
open
space.
You
know
a
path
to
a
bike
pathway
through
a
park.
L
L
Open
Spaces,
including
the
north
side
of
The
Pedestrian
of
by
pedestrian,
and
that
would
also
return
more
to
the
shared
Street
model
that
was
originally
mooted
in
the
glove
I
think
we
would
perhaps
resolve
some
of
the
issues
about
how
we
can
get
that
transition
to
the
neighborhood
and
that
open
space
on
the
west
side
a
little
bit
more
creatively
handle
and
I.
Think
that's
about
what
I'd
like
to
say
at
this
point.
Okay,.
I
Yeah
first,
you
know
before
the
meeting
with
you
posted
online
presentation.
Everyone
said
tonight:
the
existing
building
is
12
000
square
feet,
but
I
thought
that
the
Y
also
owned
and
owned
or
operated
the
two
tennis
buildings
which
are
really
really
big.
So
it's
more
than
twelve
thousand
feet
that
you
have
here
the
old
building,
maybe
just
12
000
feet
when
you
add
in
the
other
two,
it's
much
larger.
T
I
The
other
question
I
have
is,
and
again
it's
been
a
long
time
since
we've
had
the
online
engagement
and
I
may
have
missed
something
here,
but
between
what
you
first
proposed
of
what's
being
proposed.
Now,
there's
a
it
points
out.
This
huge
reduction
in
the
size
of
the
Y
building
am
I
correctly.
There's
no
change
to
the
powerful
building,
essentially
essentially.
T
B
I
To
make
that
clear,
could
you
go
through
the
thinking
as
to
why
the
Y
building
has
shrunk
so
dramatically,
but
the
harbor
building
is
is,
is
the
same?
I
mean
it's
the
same
square
footage
why,
by
the
disparity
there
I'm
that
I'm
I
didn't
see
anything
in
any
of
the
documents
that
explain?
What's.
T
Going
on
so
I
mean
the
bottom
line.
Is
the
YMCA?
Is
a
charity?
It's
a
non-profit,
it
doesn't
have
sources
of
money,
it
doesn't
get
a
grant
it
doesn't.
Do
it
basically
relies
on
sources
like
the
residential
portion
to
pay
for
a
new
YMCA.
So
the
bottom
line
is
that
residential
units
are
needed
to
pay
for
a
brand
new.
Why
it's
extremely
expensive,
The,
Long,
Branch,
The,
Long,
Branch
site
I,
think.
H
I
But
I
guess
that
I
can
understand
so
that
song,
but
with
the
washer
either
way
it
does
under
this
and
I,
was
also
better
of
the
social
club
study
way
back
when
there
is
allowable
more
height
on
the
YMCA
side
than
what
you're
taking
advantage
of
there
has
to
be
setbacks.
Of
course,
and
you
really
didn't
push
on
that
I.
I
Remember
that
very
clearly,
but
there's
still
more
hype
that
could
have
been
used
or
can
still
be
used
on
the
YMCA
side
that
isn't
being
used,
it's
just
being
locked
off
and
I'm,
not
understanding
that
either
and
you
don't
even
have
to
explain
that
tonight,
but
at
least
we're
going
to
want
to
be
exploring
going
forward.
So
you
know,
by
the
way,
I
do
really
appreciate
having
the
pickleball
inside.
I
F
F
N
T
N
F
Line
go
ahead.
Why
don't
we
talk
about
that
when
we
talk
about
the
people,
make
sure
I
want
to
make
sure
the
Y
gets
feedback
on
these
issues?
That
they've
made
changes
aside,
but
thank
you
Cindy
and
I'm
glad
to
hear
you
align
yourself
with
Jim.
If
others
do,
you
know
like
just
raise
your
hand
now
so
I
get
a
sense
like
okay.
Thank
you.
G
Well,
I,
at
some
point
we
have
to
talk
not
just
about
the
change
in
square
footage,
but
also
the
the
40
feet
right
on
the
on
the
Eastern
side
of
it
right
like
it's.
It's
one
thing
to
I.
Think
I.
Think
that
that
part
of
what
I'm,
struggling
with
the
change
in
the
square
footage
is
like
you
moved
it
four
feet
here
and
eight
feet
here
that
doesn't
you
know,
you're
gonna
have
a
much
taller
building
to
get
to
50
to
get
to
a
Delta
of
30
000
right,
it's
it's!
You
know,
I
I!
G
I
I
I'm
just
saying
that
I,
what
I'm
saying
is
I
think
that
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
are
looking
I,
don't
know
which
I'm
I'm
looking
at
the
comparisons
line,
if
it
can
be
put
up
that's
great,
but
for
the
benefit
of
the
applicant
I.
Think
a
lot
of
people
at
the
table
are
looking
at
at
the
the
North
and
the
the
top
and
the
left
side
saying
that
the
multiplication
doesn't
work
for
me.
G
I,
don't
understand
why
we're
going
down
to
whatever
and
and
I'm
just
going
to
be
curious
about.
You
know:
why
are
we
chopping
40
feet
off
of
of
the
east
side
as
well,
and
is
that
really
the
only
way
that
staff
concerns
for
that
north-south
connector
can
be
accommodated
this
to
take
40
feet
off
of
the
Eastern
off
of
the
eastern
wall?
Okay,.
F
So
I
feel
like
a
lot
of
what
we've
heard
somewhat
in
the
same
part
of
the
conversation,
it's
not
necessarily
on
this.
Well,
it
is
a
little
bit
on
the
building
separation
and
the
the
connection.
You
know
this
idea
that
the
building
has
been
reduced
in
size.
Could
we
shift
it
one
way
so
that
there
is
more
space
on
the
west?
U
U
G
I
I
would
I
would
support
more
of
that
space
being
I.
I
think
that
40
feet
might
be
too
drastic
of
a
cutback,
but
but
what?
But
when
I'm?
But
that's
not
that's,
not
a
position
I'm
taking
so
much
as
I'm
curious
about.
Why
is
the
solution
to
the
staff
concerns
to
Lop
off
40
feet?
Why
not
20
feet?
Why
not
like
and
what
is
it
about
the
volume
of
the
space,
which
is
why
it's
hard
to
disaggregate
these
two
discussions?
G
T
Know
it's
it's.
The
building,
I
would
just
say
a
few
things
so
that
the
production
of
33
000,
approximately.
T
Every
exercise
programs
originally
now
there's
two
there's
a
stairwell
on
the
southern
portion
of
this
property.
App
up,
that's
gone
too.
The
vast
vast
majority
is
tennis,
which
is
huge
volumes.
It's
really
tall,
not
that
many
people
use
it.
It
adds
tons
of
volume
to
the
space
Neighbors
on
like
a
62
foot
building
looming
over
them.
That's
what
you
need
when
you
got
tenants,
and
so
it's
really
hard
to
have
a
lot
of
tennis
courts
here.
T
G
That's
one
of
the
reasons
I
think
that
the
community
is
struggling
here
is
because,
when
you
say
that
that
that
that
that
it's
when
you,
when
you
say
it's
because
of
the
tennis,
then
what
we're
hearing
is
that
it
was
the
eight
foot
step
back
and
the
height
reductions.
That
made
the
difference
in
terms
of
whether
or
not
you
could
build
the
tennis
courts
and
I.
Don't
we're
struggling
with.
B
U
Of
things
right,
we
were
tasked
with
increasing
the
width
of
that
shared
path
which
I
believe
staff
has
said:
they're,
okay,
with
what
we're
doing
east
west
on
that
shared
path,
so
that
it's
not
vehicular,
but
what
they
said
was
we
want
a
minimum
of
40
feet
from
the
Mill
Creek
kind
of
Drive
aisle
to
the
building
right.
So
we
did
that.
So
we
pushed
the
residential
building
to
the
north,
the
Y
reduced
their
building
footprint
and.
A
The
issue
with
reducing
the
width
of
the
Y
is
so
you
say:
oh
let's,
lock
only
20
feet
off
the
problem
is
the
residential
building
has
moved
less
concurrently
and
so
you're
left
with
a
20-foot
white.
U
G
I
Feet
does
anybody
know
what
happens
between
the
Oracle
building
and
the
apartment
building?
It
was
built
about
10
15
years
ago,
how
one
that
is,
because
that
was
heart
blocked
by
the
way
wanted
to
preserve
a
Passage
through
there
between
those
two
buildings,
which
is
pretty
heavily
used
as
pedestrian
pedestrian
passage.
It
was
specifically
put
there
to
not
be.
H
H
I
Just
Oklahoma
Boulevard
the
probability
next
to
the
ticket
smooth
the
tickets,
folding
that
little
weird
building
and
then
there's
a
new
Oracle
office.
Building
an
innovation
College
right,
yeah,
there's
a
pedestrian
passage
that
goes
around
the
Oracle
building.
That
used
to
be
a
direct
angle.
But
now,
let's
say
between
the
two
buildings-
and
it
was-
we
think
it
was
pretty
well
done.
Neighborhood
ended
up
strongly
advocating
that.
F
Right
thanks
we're
going
to
go
to
a
Morgan,
then
Sarah
and
again
we're
still
on
the
site
layout,
the
building
separation,
the
whips
and
the
layouts.
These
Pathways
and
the
programming
of
any
revised
open
spaces,
and
then
Charles
got.
S
It's
interesting
to
hear
the
frustration
with
the
county
and
and
also
others
in
the
room
that
are
a
little
confused
about
the
glove
plan
and
the
way
that
I've
been
looking
at
it
is
that
the
glove
plan
was
conceived
as
if
this
was
a
Greenfield
site,
but
it's
not
and
it
never
will
be
unless
a
developer
came
in
and
bought
the
whole
thing
and
I
think
the
whole
concept
was,
that
would
happen,
but
the
property
lines
are
the
property
lines.
S
The
ownership
is
the
ownership
and
so
the
concept
of
having
a
road
from
Kirkwood
all
the
way
to
12th
was
killed
just
by
the
fact
that
Ole
Miss,
HIPAA
property
would
prevent
it.
And
you
know,
even
if
you
tried
to
do
that
at
the
current
location,
the
the
grade
is
probably
even
worse
at
that
location
than
it
would
have
been.
If
you
ran
the
road
straight
through
from
12.,
so
you
know
the
driver
can't
really
be
the
fact.
S
We
don't
have
a
road
because
it
really
is
not
feasible
with
a
site,
that's
preoccupied
and
pre-owned,
and
so
that
really
shouldn't
be
a
criteria.
That's
driving
the
conversation
in
my
mind,
I
think
the
layout
is
pretty
darn
nice
in
terms
of
adding
room
between
buildings
from
the
the
separation
between
the
two
residential
buildings.
S
The
40
feet
is
certainly
a
lot
more
generous
than
it
was
before
between
the
residential
and
the
the
athletic
building,
which
will
actually
create
a
an
area
where
trees
can
survive,
because
sometimes
when
you
put
them
too
close
between
two
walls,
the
heat
is
just
so
much
it'll.
Just
you
know,
dry
them
out.
S
The
southern
border,
of
course,
is
is
much
nicer
than
it
was
before.
I
think.
The
the
only
thing
that
I
have
another
comment
about
is
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
is
totally
missing
is
that
there
has
not
been
any
effort
to
incorporate
this
pedestrian
pass.
What
pathway
on
an
East-West
basis
through
that?
Would
that
would
connect
to
the
Ball
Cemetery
I
I.
S
Think
it's
ridiculous
for
the
city
to
expect
people
to
respect
this
historic
property
with
a
sign
out
on
the
street
covered
in
Vines
and
also
accessible
from
a
parking
lot
of
an
outer
repair
station,
and
so
I
think
there
ought
to
be
something
done
to
incorporate
that,
and
maybe
it's
a
county
effort
collaborating
with
this
developer
to
make
that
happen,
but
I
think
it's
something
that
should
be
addressed
and
then
the
historic
signs
can
go
at
The,
Pedestrian
entrances
and
people
would
actually
know
where
this
place
is
because
most
people
in
Arlington
barely
know
it's
there.
S
You
know
my
sadness
about
this
whole
plan
is
that
I'm,
a
tennis
player
and
I
love
the
game
of
tennis
and
I.
Go
there
in
the
mornings.
I
see
hundreds
of
kids
coming
in
there
all
day,
long
really
in
a
grand
time
and
it's
a
great
sport,
but
to
accommodate
the
things
that
this
developer
has
to
deal
with.
This
is
a
pretty
darn
nice
solution
in
my
book.
P
Yeah,
this
is
a
fun
one
for
me,
because
I
get
to
talk
about
both
open
space
and
Recreation,
which
is
very
uncommon
in
sprc
meetings.
I,
definitely
like
the
new
layout
and
the
width
between
the
buildings,
I
think
is
definitely
honoring.
The
Pedestrian
and
bicycle
experience
through
the
site.
I
do
hear
other
Commissioners
concerns
about
the
loss
of
recreational
space
in
the
recreational
building
and
I.
P
So
the
more
that
you
know
there
is
opportunity
to
play
with
layout
and
massing
there
to
increase
the
utility
of
that
recreational
building.
The
better
and
my
perspective,
I,
associate
with
staff's
comments
on
the
smaller
open
space
on
the
western
side
of
the
site,
then
envisioned
in
the
sector
plan
and
the
impacts
from
like
layout
on
that
space.
And
then
my
only
other
concern
on
layout
at
this
time
is
that
Northern
Tree
preservation
area
and
seeing
Hardscape
to
the
East
and
Hardscape
to
the
west
and
concerned
about
desire
paths
through
that
space.
P
Looking
at
satellite
photos,
it
looks
like
there's
currently
a
sidewalk
cutting
through
that
it
doesn't
I,
don't
see
that
in
the
revised
plan,
so
concern
that
that
space
might
not
be
truly
preserved
or
protected.
If
there's
like
uncontrolled
desire
paths,
so
just
something
to
think
about
for
the
revised
4.1.
F
P
F
You
good
point
I'll
note
that,
for
when
this
comes
in
more
specifically
thank
you
very
much,
I'm
Charles
sure.
T
Five,
so
I
don't
think
the
distance
on
the
southerly
boundary
has
changed.
We
took
off
a
stairwell
which
is
maybe
in
this
site
on
the
bottom
left,
but
there
was
a
stairwell
that
projected
at
I
had
five
or
ten
feet
from
the
building
phase.
That's
been
removed,
otherwise.
W
D
T
The
properties
not
itself,
so
are
you
talking
about
the
East
West
Connection.
Are
you
talking
about
going
towards
the
top
of
the
screen?
Okay,
yeah
So.
The
plan
is
for
it
to
be
15
feet
wide
again.
This
is
in
conjunction
with
conversations
with
staff.
We
started
off
with
sixth
one.
T
With
three
trees
or
trees,
only
one
side
of
the
street,
so
now
it
is
15
feet
wide.
It
will
have
trees
on
both
sides.
I
believe
in
that
area,
your
trees
will
be
the
bottom
half
of
it.
Otherwise
I
believe
you
already
have
trees
on
that
side,
whether
those
need
to
be
tweaked
in
some
fashion,
I,
don't
know.
We
haven't
really
worked
out
the
fine
details
today.
B
T
The
north
south
one
North,
so
you
come
in
North
Kansas
one
next
to
your
building.
Thank
you.
H
H
W
T
Something
well
look.
The
notion
we
would
hope
is
that
people
would
do
that
that
people
would
enter
from
controlled
intersection
at
Washington.
Boulevard
come
into
the
YMCA,
come
in
our
parking
garage,
which
is
in
the
bottom.
The
entrance
is
the
bottom
left
of
the
left
building
and
going
to
the
garage
turn
around
and
go
back
out
the
same
way.
They
came.
It's
a
controlled
intersection,
safe,
not
carry
through
to
the
neighborhood
there's
a
small
bump
between
the
entrance
to
the
parking
and
loading
and
the
rest
of
that
area.
T
J
Thanks
John
Armstrong
industry,
advisory
committee,
I
I
just
have
a
couple.
Questions
about
I
need
some
clarification.
First
of
all,
I
will
say
that
I
think
I
appreciate
the
greater
width
of
the
sidewalks
on
the
passage
between
the
buildings,
both
the
north
south
east
west,
but
I'm
curious,
I'm,
not
really
clear.
I
see
parking
and
loading
looks
like
the
pedestrians
will
be
walking
through
and
sharing
space
to
get
into
cars
and
delivery
trucks.
Bottom
right
of
the
site
are
those
trucks
they're
not
coming
on?
Are
they
coming
from
the
Mill
Creek.
T
S
T
The
new
residential
I'm-
sorry,
yes,
so
that
will
be
coming.
So
the
notion
was
that
we
would
share
access.
You
know
we
knew
all
this
was
coming
in
the
future,
and
so
we
contemplated
and
worked
with
our
neighbors
to
try
to
come
up
with
efficient
use
of
asphalt,
driveways,
Drive,
Wells
and
the
like.
So
we're
not
repeating
our
own
driveway
right
next
to
Abbott's,
driveway
or
right
next
to
someone
else's
driveway.
That.
J
No
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
you're
right.
Yes,
so
there's
a
conflict
there,
but
it's
still
separate.
There's
a
separate
driveway
yeah.
H
J
T
So
if
you're
going
through
the
site,
you
can
go
on
to
the
far
left,
North
Kansas
will
carry
right
through
so
we're
building
a
sidewalk
six
foot,
six
sidewalk
up
against
the
YMCA
dedicated
sidewalk,
originally
with
just
a
shared
access
drive
that
was
kind
of
used
in
common
by
all
the
different
modes
of
transportation.
In.
X
T
T
J
F
M
M
P
M
Staff
for
some
ideas
about
you
know
what
study
has
been
done.
Who's
done,
the
study.
What
a
substance
has
been
made,
I
think
we
have
to
assume
that
people
will
be
start
going
back
to
work
more
and
more,
as
coveted
here
goes
away
and
right
now,
A
lot
of
people
are
racing.
People
like
this
is
not
Mom
and
Pop.
Now
out
for
a
Sunday
drive,
this
is
not
Mom
delivering
the
kids
to
the
Y.
These
are
people
that
are
in
a
hurry
and
they're
speeding
down
13th
as
it
is.
M
We
don't
want
to
give
them
any
more,
especially
they'll,
be
speeding
down
this
new
connector
to
be
delight,
and
you
don't
want
the
children
out
there,
but
the
whole
thing
has
been.
You
know:
it's
been
dangerous.
T
For
a
long
way,
I
think
why
it
shares
your
concern:
they're
going
to
have
a
whole
bunch
of
kids,
you
know
out
front
and
playing
and
or
whatever
it
is
getting
it.
So
we
share
that
concern.
That's
what
we
are
initial
design
had.
You
know
different
paver
treatments
and
other
things
like
that
to
really
indicate
this
is
a
pedestrian.
K
Just
again
trying
to
get
my
reality,
the
entrance
of
the
breaking
or
the
Looting
dock,
so
they're
the
the
trucks
the
cars
are
actually
connected.
Currently
right,
yes,.
Y
K
U
That
dedicated,
so
that
was
envisioned
in
the
plan
that
there
would
be
shared
access
and
actually
the
Kirkwood
site
plan
has
a
condition
that
they
cooperate
with
the
owner
to
the
north
when
they
built
that
building
to
have
access
off
of
that
site.
So
the
parking
and
loading
for
the
Kirkwood
Building,
you
can
see
kind
of
dashed
in
there
and
the
parking
to
the
Loading
to
the
residential
will
be
off
of
that
same
alley.
Okay,.
U
K
It's
one
of
the
this
would
have
been
spelled
wrong
curved
road,
but
I
understand
it
goes
through
the.
It
goes
through
to
the
left
of
the
other
particles
purple.
There
I.
U
Or
not
so,
during
the
Kirkwood
site
plan
we
relocated
that
storm
sore.
We
set
the
building
back
right
to
allow
for
that
Overland
relief.
With
this
proposal
we
will
also
be
relocating
the
storm
sewer
to
tie
into
where
it
ends
for
the
Kirkwood
project.
The
good
news
is,
we
have
two
sets
of
Engineers
on
this
project.
One.
Y
U
K
U
Yeah,
so
it
used
to
I
on
the
Kirkwood
project.
It
used
to
cut
right
through
the
middle
of
that
site
and
we
now
moved
that
out
to
Kirkwood
so
that
new
building
there
it
comes
out
and
it
turns
the
corner
and
it
stops
kind
of
right
where
that
alley
is,
and
so
with
the
new
proposal,
we
will
actually
be
continuing
that
Storm
sword
up
Kirkwood
to
13..
When
you
say
it
stops.
Where
does
it
go?
It
goes
to
an
inlet
connection.
You
just
you've
just
exceeded
Mike
you've.
K
K
B
G
Just
to
very
clarifying
questions,
I
know
that
this
is
not
on
the
proposal,
but
it
taught
me
in
a
new
way
between
the
Terwilliger
and
the
ball
family
burial
grounds.
There
is
an
object,
marked
C.
What
is
the
c
I.
H
Q
I
B
Q
The
thing
and
then
did
I
use
did
I
give
someone
say
that
you
would
not
be
able
to
walk
from
13th
to
the
ball
family
correctly
or
did
I
miss
hear
that.
H
B
A
B
B
F
F
F
Right
so
we
are
at
age,
23
and
I
know
there
are
members
of
the
public
here.
I
would
like
to
wrap
up
this
part
of
the
conversation.
Remember
the
sort
of
a
pre-sprc
used
to
let
the
the
applicants
know.
Are
they
on
the
right
track
and
where
are
the
outstanding
issues?
I
just
want
to
confirm.
Would
you
please
show
us
where
the
where
what
size
will
have
Publications
on
that
dude?
Is
this
my
yeah?
Okay,
there.
U
It
is
I
can
jump
up
right
here.
So
I'll
just
tell
you
the
the
park
on
the
left,
the
road
connection
and
the
sidewalks.
Obviously
the
East-West
connection,
the
north
south
connection.
U
Where
Kirkwood
I'm
not
sure,
if
that'll
have
a
public
access,
easement
or
not
I,
don't
think
it
did
on.
L
Is
there
a
reason
why
the
north-south
pedestrian
bike
connection
was
placed
between
the
two
buildings
and
why
that
could
not
be
placed
on
the
west
side
of
the
building?
I
think
that
would
solve,
for
instance,
some
of
your
issues
about
not
being
able
to
walk
all
the
way
through
to
Washington
Boulevard.
If
everything
was
going
along,
the
so-called
new
Kansas
road,
then
we'd
have
that
direct
connection.
You
wouldn't
have
the
kind
of
stuff
that's
going
on
here.
So
I
was
just
wondering.
A
Just
the
basis
right
now
of
what
the
developer
is
doing
is.
J
A
Or
less
based
on
this
adopted
diagram
here,
showing
this
number
three
here,
this
north
south
connection
here
more
or
less
coming
from
The
Ball
Cemetery
to
here,
so
that
developer
is
responding
to
the
adopted
guidance
here
you
know
I
suppose
there
is
nothing
I.
We
have
not
discussed
internally
as
staff
or
not
to
move
it
someplace
else.
As
you
know,
our
request
has
been
to
you
know
somehow
make
this
open
space
larger.
So.
A
Up
to
date,
mainly
because
they
were
compliant
with,
you
know
more
or
less
what
the
map
here
map
here
is
showing,
but
you
know
we
are
certainly
open
to
discussing
it.
I.
U
F
Well,
you'll
remember
from
the
special
Club
part
of
it
was
to
use
that
borrowed
space
from
the
cemetery
and
have
some
green
space
in
the
middle
of
the
site.
Knowing
we
were
adding
so
many
people
there
so
I
think
that's
where
a
lot
of
that
came
from.
L
L
I
F
Include
absolutely
no
I,
like
the
creative
thinking.
Thank
you,
I'd
like
to
move
on
to
the
next
part
of
the
discussion.
This
was
the
revised
building,
masting
and
height.
We
started
to
discuss
this
earlier,
and
part
of
this
is
the
vision
for
the
new.
Why,
since
it
doesn't
include
the
tennis-
and
we
know,
as
you've
acknowledged,
you
know,
that's
a
loss
for
a
lot
of
people
in
the
community
comparison,
maybe
the
old
and
Anubis
basis
and
the
programming.
So
anyone
want
to
get
started
on
that
part
of
the
conversation
David
Howell.
O
Yeah
well,
first
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
expanded
planted
space
thing
we've
all
talked
about
that
and
I
think
the
movement
of
the
library
can
work
I
I'm
still
baffled,
though
it
would
seem
to
me
that
a
tennis
space
would
be
a
lot
of
square
footage,
but
not
necessarily
the
same
dollar
per
square
foot
cost
that
many
of
the
other
facilities
would
have
so
I'm
kind
of
trying
to
figure
out.
Essentially
the
the
housing
portion
is
going
to
generate.
You
say
it's
about
the
same
size.
O
Same
square
footage
generate
the
same
Revenue
that
it
would
in
the
in
the
original
proposal,
with
all
the
fluctuations
that
we
all
deal
with.
But
now
we've
got
a
shorter
and
smaller,
more
compact
building
for
the
Y
facilities
and
I'm
wondering
whether
there
might
be
options
given
the
the
reduction
there
might
be
options
to
actually
expand
some
activities.
Some
programming
possibilities,
if
it's
required,
just
by
virtue
of
the
space
to
get
us
in
the
tennis
portion.
It's
a
lot
of
space
I,
don't
know
why
it
needs
to
be
cut
back.
O
Sure
I
understand
why
cutting
back
that
amount
is
what
you
get
when
you
eliminate
tennis,
but
it
doesn't
mean
you
have
to
go
all
the
way
back
to
the
size
that
you
now
have
with
that
in
a
much
shorter
building
and
yeah
and
so
I'm
thinking,
for
example,
like
I
assume,
with
all
the
with
all
the
requirements
that
this
is
not
going
to
be
a
more
substantial
structure.
And
so
could
you,
for
example,
do
something
pretty
cool
on
the
roof.
O
I
think
everything
from
from
Community
gardening
programs
for
kids,
you
know
to
and
then
adults
to
and
people
who
are
living
next
door
to
do
some
planting
some
Park
area.
Speaking
of
the.
H
O
Half
acre
on
the
West
Side,
you
could
do
yoga
on
the
roof.
This
is
a
building
that
would
allow
that
without
applying
an
intrusion
of
airspace
next
to
the
neighborhood
and
who
knows
maybe
even
a
small
pool
but
I
know,
you've
got
a
lot
of
other
things
like
that.
But
I
think
that
they're,
you
know
if
you,
if
you
can
just
if
everyone
decides
to
accept
the
idea,
no
tennis
on
this
site,
except
maybe
a
practice
board
somewhere.
O
Then
you
could
explore
the
possibility
to
do
something
else
with
that
with
that
structure
and
with
that
space
and
expand
programs,
you
know
put
in
Garden
area
contemplative
areas
like
you're
talking
about
for
the
West
Side.
You
know
to
serve
both
the
residents
of
the
other
building,
but
also
community
members.
H
H
H
G
G
That
that
partly
is
my
question:
I
mean
to
the
extent
that
a
cubic
foot
is
fungible
right.
What
what
the
the
special
Club
study
asks?
You
know
what
I
think
staff
asked
to
do
was
not
to
go
from
62
feet
to
25
feet
or
whatever
the
numbers
are,
but
to
respect
the
tapering.
The
vision
of
the
tapering
that
is
called
for
in
in
the
special
glove
study
now
jokes
about
the
People's
Republic
of
Arlington.
Notwithstanding
this
isn't
a
command
economy.
We
respond
to
applications
that
are
before
us.
G
We
can't
force
an
applicant
to
to
build
more
than
they
want
to
build
right,
but
it
seems
to
be
right
like
because
cubic
feet
are
fungible,
that
there
was
a
lot
of
flexibility,
that's
denser
and
that
isn't
as
dense
as
a
non-tapered
62
foot
wall,
but
is
more
dense
than
going
down
to
25
feet
and
I'm
curious
about.
G
G
Why
crying
you
know
what?
Why
wasn't
there?
Why
don't?
Why
are
we
seeing
an
exploration?
Aren't
we
seeing
like
the
thought
process
of
exploring
how
to
get
more
programming
into
something
that
respects
those,
tapers
and-
and
you
know,
aims
for
62
feet
where
you
know
where
once
you've
gotten
back
through
those
stepdads?
Why
why
are
we
seeing
that
thought.
F
P
F
T
E
I
appreciate
it
and
Elizabeth
our
chief
operating
officer,
Pam
Curran,
is
on
the
line
and
with
has
endured
the
dialogue
and
would
love
to
speak
to
that
programmatic
standpoint.
F
Y
Super
Pam,
oh
hi,
all
right!
Thank
you
Allison,
you
know,
I
mean
the
one.
The
one
thing
that
I
would
like
to
say,
first
and
foremost,
is
how
excited
the.
Why
is
about
this?
What
we're
delivering
to
Arlington
we've
done
a
lot
of
research
and
it's
been
of
all
the
Arlington
members
and
non-members
and
everything
that
they
have
said
they
want,
with
the
exception
of
tennis,
that
I'm
going
to
talk
about
for
one.
Second,
we
have
in
this.
Y
We
talked
about
Community
Gardens,
we've
got
a
therapy
Garden
that
we're
going
to
incorporate
into
some
of
the
class
and
and
that
you
know
the
whole
nature
of
healing
with
with
plants
and
things
like
that,
so
I
I,
you
know
I
just
want
everybody
to
know,
as
everybody
has
heard,
bigger,
isn't
always
better.
You
know
we
have
really
checked
every
single
box
and
I
if
I
got
any
extra
space,
I
think
I'd
put
in
a
little
bit
more
of
a
warm
water
pool.
Y
But
you
know
the
good
news
and
the
sad
news
for
me
is
I,
manage
that
Tennis
Center
for
40
years
I
had
very
gray,
hair
and
I
had
very
brown
hair
when
I
started
and
we
had
thousands
of
members
we're
down
to
600..
Somebody
mentioned
all
the
one,
the
children,
but
the
truth
is
we
have
42
children
in
Camp.
The
demand
is
not
there
for
tennis.
At
the
same
time,
to
build
four
tennis
courts
was
approaching
15
million
dollars.
So
you
know
it.
Y
You
know
it's
just
not
what
I
think
the
community
wants
us
to
deliver,
but
I
you
know
I
I.
We
want
to
also
keep
it
in
affordable.
Why
the
more
we
spend
the
more
the
price
is
passed
on
to
the
community,
so
this
will
be
very
affordable
with
everything
state
of
the
art
up.
You
know
that
that
I
think
the
community
has
said
that
they've
wanted
through
multiple
surveys
and
demand
studies.
So
I
was
there
with
Swiss
Diamond
melabot
Don
Floyd.
You
know
all
the
people
I've
been
there
for
40
years.
Y
H
H
E
T
Look
you've
got
a
facility
that
dates
over
60
years
old
I
mean
if
you
go
back,
one
slide
Kathy
you
can
see.
What's
there
now
I
mean
maybe
eventually
this
live
will
kick
over.
You
can
see
the
pool
right
there
in
the
back.
You
know
that's
what
you're
signing
on
for.
If
you
want
to
swim,
that's
where
you're
going.
T
If
you
want
to
go
in
the
future,
you
know
this
is
what
you're
going
to
get
you're
going
to
get
state-of-the-art
swimming.
Where,
where
do
you
want
to
go
swimming?
Where
do
you
want
to
take
your
kids
I?
Think
it's
what
you're
seeing
on
the
screen?
So
we
believe
there'll
be
demand
for
this,
and
this
is
an
exciting
upgrade
for
the
community
as
a
whole
and
there's
a
demand
I
think
for
particularly
aquatic
centers
in
this
part
of
Arlington,
so
I.
P
T
Very
confident
they
have.
L
But
somehow
you
still
need
the
375
you,
the
74
units
to
finance
a
construction
that
is
at
least
15
million
dollars
less,
if
not
more
so,
I'm
interested
because
from
the
community
perspective
densities,
issue
number
of
residents
on
the
properties
of
issue
that
brings
parking
and
traffic
and
demands
on
schools
and
everything
else.
So
why,
given
the
fact
that
we
don't
need
15
million,
at
least
as
much
as
we
used
to
do,
we
still
need
374
units
in
your
Residential
Building.
H
U
I
E
E
E
A
gap
and
the
component
right
now
is
also
as
a
charity
coming
out
of
covid.
Our
our
organization,
like
many
YMCAs,
like
many
nonprofits
in
the
country,
were
decimated,
so
we're
trying
to
rebuild
back
our
reserves.
We've
already
spent
millions
of
dollars
in
stock
costs.
You
know
to
get
to
this
point
as
we
started
even
a
little
bit
before
2017,
so
that
the
component
of
you
know
comparing
now
to
where
we
were.
Even
when
we
started
in
2017.
D
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you
any
other
thoughts
or
comments
on
the
supervised
building,
massing
and
high
vision
for
the
new.
Why
I
think
we
got
a
good
explanation
of
how
the
why
is
has
reviewed
demand
these
days?
Okay,
yeah,
oh
I'm,
sorry,
we'll
do
public
comment
in
just
a
few.
X
G
If
the
answer
isn't
available,
now
I'm
happy
to
get
it
for
the
next
meeting,
but
I
am
curious
about
whether
any
of
the
counties,
public
tennis,
programming
or
facility
needs
are
currently
being
that
is
the
county,
leaning
on
or
or
leasing
or
renting
time
or
using
the
Y
facilities.
For
any
of
this
public
tennis.
F
F
Okay,
Does,
it
include
virtual
as
well:
okay,
yes
and,
in
the
meantime,
I'm
just
going
to
wrap
up
what
I
heard
around
the
table
so
that
my
sprc
college
can.
Let
me
know
if
I've
missed
something
regarding
the
site
layout.
There's
generally
people
liked
space
between
the
buildings.
F
There's
some
concern
with
the
reduced
for
the
ambition
from
the
club
study
site
of
that
small,
open
space
to
the
west
and
Paul
raised
a
couple
times
the
option
to
shift
the
building
to
maybe
reduce
some
of
the
space
between
the
buildings
and
allow
more
open
space
on
the
west
side.
That
could
potentially
be
safer
too.
If
that's
an
area
where
there'll
be
some
movement
of
why
users
and
children
so
I'm
concerned
with
the
north
south
street
to
the
west
in
use
as
a
cut
through
from
13
through
to
Washington
Boulevard.
F
That
has
been
an
issue
since
the
special
Glover
and
I
think
it's
something
that
we
do
really
need
to
try
to
work
through,
especially
as
we're
talking
about
fully
populating
the
site.
With
you
know,
there's
children
at
Joe
William
place,
there's
going
to
be
children
using
the
Y
right
and
there's
a
desire
to
do
more
and
better
with
regard
to
the
Ball
Cemetery.
Perhaps
some
signage
and
access
from
Washington
Boulevard
in.
F
Term
and
then
the
issues
regarding
the
massing
and
height
the
heard,
why
not
use
more
of
the
height
that's
available
for
the
Y
building
and
perhaps
meet
more
of
the
demand?
That's
out
there,
I
don't
know
if
you
could
squeeze
into
tennis
court,
but
you
know
we
hate
to
leave
a
constituency
with
with
no
resources,
but
why
not
respect
the
tapering
for
the
special
blood
more
and
see
less
reduction
of
that
GFA
that
we
saw
you
know
this
building
is
much
smaller.
Is
there
a
way
to
use
a
little
bit
more
of
that
space?
F
David
Howell
raised
some
good
points,
maybe
that
we
put
a
practice
board
somewhere
on
the
site
for
tennis-
and
you
know
we'd
love
to
see
what
you
have
in
mind
for
using
the
roof,
the
community
gardening,
the
kids,
the
yoga
I'm
sure
that
would
be
appreciated
by
some
of
the
newer
residents
as
well,
and
we
heard
from
your
CEO
this
changing
demand
that
the
process
the
Y
has
gone
through
to
determine
how
they
will
make
sure
that
their
services
are
used,
did
I,
miss
anything
okay
and
we'd
love
to
hear
from
the
public
now.
A
And
also
make
some
relationship.
Yes,
everyone,
okay,.
F
Okay,
so
it's
okay.
F
He's
back,
thank
you.
Okay,
we'll
start
with
Miss
barcy
did
I
say
the
correctly.
That's
fine
thanks.
H
C
What
I'm
hearing
there
is
a
finances.
I
I
can't
I
can't
speak
to
that,
because
I
think
dollar
signs
for
how
much
Revenue,
actually
tennis.
C
But
I
do
want
to
say
that
it
seems
that
if
it
has
to
be
limited,
I
haven't
heard
anything
as
to
why
there
can't
be
it
makes
pickleball
and
Tennis
Courts
why
it
only
has
to
be
pickleball,
because
right
now
at
the
Y
there
are.
They
are
shared.
So,
if
you're
going
to
build
and
why
not
try
and
build
six
Courts
at
least
and
make
those
available
to
pickleball
I've.
R
C
What
concerned
to
me
about
is
that
the
Arlington
white
article
today
says
that
the
developer
has
been
seeing
that
there's
been
a
problem
with
the
community.
C
The
county
staff
suggested
that
a
solution
to
staff
concerns
about
removal
of
the
tennis
courts,
so
I
I
just
I'm
not
really
sure
what
to
believe
the
test.
Community
is
getting
straightforward
and
honest
together,
so
I
would
suggest,
maybe
which
has
never
happened
in
the
fall,
the.
Why
could
actually
show
up
at
the
tennis
courts,
maybe
with
Parks
and
Recreation,
and
have
an
honest
discussion
with
the
players
about?
What's
going
on.
K
Thank
you,
my
name's
Ken
Hughes
I'm,
a
neighbor,
a
member
of
the
YMCA
member
of
the
Boston
region,
where
Civics
Associated.
By
only
speaking
for
myself,
there
are
a
number
of
opportunities
or
suggestions
that
I
would
ask
for
all
things
already
I
apologize.
One
is
concerning
the
trees
appreciate
that
the
but
I'm
wondering
if
someone
has
thought
of
hiring
a
barbarous
to
see
yeah,
okay,
great
okay,
the
next
one
is
native
plants
which
I
know
the.
Why
person
talked
about
doing
a
little
I
would
suggest
that
one
can
do
a
lot
with
that.
K
If
you
look
at
the
new
h2q
headquarters,
they
have
the
Fantastic
Metropolitan
Park,
which
is
exclusively
native
plants.
It's
unbelievable.
Similarly,
if
you
go
to
Long
Branch
Aquatic
Center,
that
David
state
of
plants-
and
they
also
get
to
the
next
point,
which
is
run
off
form,
which
is
rain
Gardens
with
native
plants,
look
at
what
they
do
in
the
Long
Branch
with
that
really
creative
next
is
solar
panels.
K
Okay,
I
understand
the
gentleman
was
talking
about
doing
some
green
things
up
there
that
doesn't
include
solar
panels.
There
are
lots
of
imaginative
ways
that
you
can
angle
them
and
I
have
some
expertise
in
this
area.
I'm
happy
to
help.
There
are
Virginia
Asterix,
solar,
renewable
energy
credits
to
finance
that,
and
you
can
sell
federal
tax
credits
as
a
non-profit
so
and
the
electricity
will
pay
the
sold
and
paper
itself
quickly
and
it's
a
perfect
place
where
you
have
a
new
building
and
you
have
a
new
roof
and
it'll
be
there.
N
D
D
The
conceptual
livescape
plan
in
the
site
plan
does
not
show
the
species
and
locations
of
any
shrubs
grounds,
grasses
grounds
or
perennials.
The
landscape
plants
that
some
applicants
could
get
contagious
information,
but
this
one
does
not
the
plant
need.
The
public
needs
to
review
this
information,
we're
sure
that
the
planting
include
common
milkweed
and
other
native
plants
that
support
the
quality
populations
of
modest
butterflies
and
other
pollinators
advantages
need
to
help
implement
the
County
Board
2016,
not
Monica,
said
he
presently.
No
no
will
do
this.
Let
me
fight
questions
about
the
County
Board.
D
They
approved
fail
to
do
this.
This
is
what
is
even
worse,
because
the
applicant
intends
to
remove
a
YMCA
Colony
attached
that
contains
common
milkweeds,
on
which
minor
fireflies
will
often
feed
they're.
Taking
this
out
and
they're,
not
telling
you
this.
What
they
are.
The
applicant
should
submit
this
information
before
the
next
sdrc
meeting
for
the
Planning
Commission
media
considers
the
project.
This
would
prevent
the
public
to
review
the
tax
collectors
in
a
timely
manner.
D
Very
recently,
board
meeting
of
the
applicant
submitted
that
that
plan
at
the
meeting
I've
never
seen
it
before,
but
at
least
we
submit
it.
We
really
need
this
because
you're
not
going
to
just
take
that
milk.
We
do
not
replace
them,
because
this
is
exactly
what
the
applicant
will
probably
do.
Thank
you.
Z
Sharon
Valencia
and
I'm,
one
of
the
nearest
Neighbors
on
12th
Road
I,
am
hopefully
optimistic
that
staff,
the
sprc
and
all
of
the
developers
not
only
the.
Why
well
work
with
the
existing
neighborhood
and
residents
to
address
the
tremendous
challenges
we've
had
to
date
with
the
Redevelopment
of
the
various
sites
in
the
special
guap
and
this
plan,
as
as
it
is
now,
will
continue
to
worsen
some
of
those
problems.
Z
For
example,
the
Apple
property
was
out
of
parking
before
the
building
was
fully
occupied
and,
as
a
result,
those
neighborhood
those
new
neighbors
with
income
challenges
are
parking
throughout
the
neighborhood
parking
at
the
Y
and
in
addition
and
they're
going
to
have
to
find
places
to
park,
and
in
addition
to
that,
you
know
we're
now
going
to
have
even
more
traffic
in
you
know,
into
the
neighborhood
from
people
looking
to
park
at
the
Y,
while
not
ideal,
we've
learned
to
be
cautious
in
our
in
in
making
sure
that
the
the
needs
of
the
neighborhood
are
addressed.
Z
Lighting,
for
example,
was
multiple
times
what
you
know.
Standards
are
for
lighting
into
the
neighborhood
and
encroaching
that
the
the
new
development
is
being
serviced
by
12th
Road,
blocking
our
driveways
and
preventing
emergency
egress
and
and
those
types
of
things
and
I
think
we.
We
really
need
to
be
I
hope
that
you
are
very
cognizant
of
of
those
issues
and
address
the
challenges
of
zero
vision,
not
fear
Vision,
zero
and
the
needs
of
a
disabled
resident
on
that
street.
Thank
you.
X
Andre
Brian
sorry
friend
earlier
protocol
as
a
resident
of
the
Lynbrook
Townhouse
Association
I,
really
appreciate
what
the
what
the
Y
has
done
in
reducing
the
height
to
make
it
in
line
with
the
height
of
the
townhouse,
so
that
it
is
more
of
a
gradual
up.
Build
to
you
know
the
height
of
the
other
buildings.
X
P
R
So
I
have
four
quick
questions
that
I'm
live
in
the
neighborhood,
not
an
immediately
adjacent
but
close
enough.
The
first
question
is
around
the
North
South
Drive
and
I'm
wondering
if
there's
ever
been
an
excellent
exploration
about
having
some
sort
of
curved
entrance.
If
you're
going
to
do
something
off
the
13th
which
the
people
in
the
neighborhood
are
not
or
generally
opposed
to
just
having
turning
it
into
effectively
wrote.
R
So
if
you
were
to
have
some
curve
element
that
could
help
with
issues
around
safety
and
making
it
seem
less
attractive
to
be
a
sort
of
a
past.
That's
one
question
that
would
mean
adjusting
the
shape
the
building,
but
could
be
helpful.
The
next
question
is
for
staff,
and
that
is
is
that
north-south
shared
driveway
Road?
H
A
R
R
A
Well,
it
would
be
either
it
would
be
dedicated,
but
it
would
still
be
an
amusement
for
public
use
of
access
reminders.
It
will
look
like
it
will
be
30
feet
wide.
It
will
be
with
a
sidewalk
Direction,
a
street
colloquially,
okay,
not
a
street
dedicated
in
fees
correct.
It
will
be
amazing.
R
R
It
looks
like
a
dog,
so
the
next
question
is
around.
Does
anybody
has
I
recognize
this
as
a
sense
of
question
too?
But
has
anybody
been
in
touch
with
Washington
Boulevard
properties
that
remain
there
that
have
been
there
about
parcel
purchase
and
perhaps
making
an
entrance
off
of
Washington
Boulevard
off
of
one
of
those
and
basically
speaking,
about
fans
because
the
most
likely
one
and
lastly,
just
a
programming
thing,
I?
Think
if
you
made
like
had
more
pickleball
there
and
you,
but
you
try
to
attract
seniors
to
the
residential
property.
F
You
thank
you
Mario,
and
our
last
speaker
is
Tom
vile.
W
Hi
one
of
the
pillars
of
the
club
study
and
I:
don't
have
it.
J
W
This
parcel
is
to
be
dedicated
to
Public
public
Recreation
education,
welfare.
The
sorts
of
things
that
the
Y
does
now
what's
being
proposed
tonight
is
to
take
half
of
that
parcel
privatize
it
and
to
sell
it
for
profit
and
remove
it
from
from
dedication
to
parks
and
schools,
and
the
like
I
take
the
point.
The
gentleman
here
said
that
the.
Why
was
going
to
last
for
another
100
years,
and
if
that's
so,
then
we
don't
have
any
worries.
W
Do
we
but
I
think
the
Y
has
not
been
completely
transparent,
with
its
economic
Affairs,
for
example,
on
his
website?
There's
this
there's
a
page
that
says
financial
transparency,
but
if
you
go
to
it,
you'll
find
somebody
else's.
W
W
W
No
wonder
they're
getting
rid
of
tennis
and
ask
yourself
where
is
all
of
this
money
going
and
is
it
going
to
support
a
hundred
years
of
Public
Welfare
education,
Parks
schools?
Thank
you,
oh,
and
by
the
way,
if
you
come
outside
afterwards,
I
have
a
little
QR
code.
You
can
go
and
look
up
all.
F
N
F
Thank
you,
Mr
bows.
We
do
have
one
more
speaker
and
that's
Laura
joining
us
online
Laura.
AA
Yes,
good
evening
this
is
Laura
Lapin,
I,
just
I'm
a
long
time,
tennis
player
at
the
Y
and
again
and
like
Janet
barsi
I'm,
very
disappointed
to
see
that
we
won't
have
any
indoor
tennis
in
Arlington
County
at
all
and
I
have
to
agree
with
her
that
we've
had
the
total
lack
of
communication
from
the
YMCA
management
about.
You
know
the
tennis
courts
we
currently
have
eight.
Then
it
was
five.
AA
So
that's
you
know
very
very
disappointing
and
you
know
everybody's
talked
about
pickleball,
but
we
do
have
pickleball
courts
there
at
FDIC
I'm,
not
a
few.
The
YMCA-
and
you
know
we
share
that
with
tennis
courts
and
they're
not
very
often
used
from
what
I've
seen
when
I've
I've
been
there.
AA
So
it'd
be
great
if
that
could
continue
to
share
tennis
courts
and
pickleball
Accords,
but
it
would
be
helpful
even
more
helpful
to
have
more
communication
from
the
YMCA
on
what
is
happening
and
when
and
why
I
did
hear
that
Pamela
talk
about
squash
and
handball
is
going
to
be
reintroduced
to
the
YMCA
we
you
know
instead
of
tennis
and
I,
don't
think
I've
ever
seen.
AA
Anybody
on
those
handball
courts
or
Squash
Courts,
maybe
ever
anyway,
I
just
wanted
to,
and
there
won't
be
tennis
at
the
YMCA
and
no
indoor
tennis
at
Arlington
County
at
all.
Thank
you
very
much.
F
Thank
you,
Laura.
All
right,
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for
their
participation.
All
the
members
of
the
public
community
through
this.
H
F
Thank
you,
Steph
Peter,
Pierre,
Bethany,
James
and
Michael.
Our
next
steps.
A
Peter
next
episode:
we
the
follow
us
in
the
developers
court.
So
to
speak.
To
respond
to
these
comments,
you
will
need
to
file
a
complete
set
of
plans
which
I
said
will
take
about
you
know
because
they
are
majorly
revised
about
30
days
for
a
staff
to
review
and
then
we'll
schedule
further
sprc
meetings.