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A
Great
welcome
everyone
to
the
June,
22nd
2023
site
plan
review
committee
for
the
sunrise,
South
police
project,
we'll
start
by
doing
our
usual
protocol
on
meetings
and
then
we'll
go
around
with
introductions
and
then
we'll
kick
off
with
the
staff
presentation,
applicant
presentation
and
get
the
agenda
so
with
that
I'll
get
started
all
right:
June
22nd
2023,
my
name
Julia
Starley
I'm.
With
the
Planning
Commission,
we
will
be
holding
a
hybrid
public
meeting
which
enables
remote
electronic
participation.
A
That's
legally
authorized
by
the
code
of
Virginia
for
planning
commissions
adopted
on
July
7th
2022nd
members
of
the
sgrc
subgroup
for
Sunrise
South
Glebe
are
participating
both
here
and
in
person
and
virtually
through
electronic
means.
At
this
time,
I'd
like
to
orient
everyone
to
our
hybrid
environment
and
cover
a
few
specifics
about
how
tonight's
meetings
will
all
right.
Members
of
the
public
May
attend
a.
B
A
The
email
notification
center
sprc
email
subscribers.
Additionally,
there
is
a
dial-in
phone
option
for
those
who
wish
to
use
it
for
subgroup.
Member
is
joining
virtually
if
anyone
loses
internet
connectivity.
During
today's
meeting,
please
connect
with
us
by
phone.
Please
keep
your
phones
and
devices
muted
until
you're
called
upon
turn
off
sound
to
any
other
devices
around
you
to
minimize
interference
for
our
virtual
attendees
using
Microsoft
teams.
A
Please
turn
off
your
video
feed
I
will
address
when
it
is
appropriate
to
turn
it
on.
In
a
moment,
the
Microsoft
teams
meeting
chat
is
active
to
serve
two
purposes.
The
sprc
subgroup
members
who
need
technical
assistance
and
to
to
members
of
the
public
to
add
their
name
to
the
list
for
public
comments
which
will
be
taken
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
team's
chat,
should
not
be
used
for
discussion.
A
A
Video
feeds
that
are
on
as
an
indicator
of
who
would
like
to
speak.
If
some
group
members
are
participating
by
a
phone
today
without
the
video
option,
please
announce
your
name
and
group.
You
are
presenting
now
and
then
we'll
verbally
check
in
to
see
if
you
wish
to
be
recognized
as
you
do
not
have
the
video
feed
option
right
there.
C
D
A
Guests,
thank
you,
Kevin,
all
right.
Okay
for
our
members
of
the
public,
who
would
like
to
provide
feedback
and
comment.
You
will
be
called
upon
to
speak
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
and
we
will
allow
two
minutes
to
speak
agenda
item
the
speaking
time.
A
logic
will
depend
on
the
number
of
Steve
speakers
we
have
this
evening.
If
you
wish
to
speak,
please
enter
your
name
at
the
meeting
chat
for
your
virtual
attendees.
It
will
provide
staff
with
your
name
if
in
person
and
you
will
be
added
to
the
speaker's
list.
A
A
That
was
good
all
right
with
that,
let's
start
a
round
of
introductions,
so
we'll
do
the
room
the
table
first
and
then
we'll
do
the
folks
on
the
back
and
then
wait.
Do
we
usually
do
that
and.
E
A
J
A
Great,
who
do
we
have
online.
M
The
screen-
yes,
our
Steve
Clubman
from
Arlington
Heights
Association.
Thank
you.
A
A
A
Good
evening,
everyone
again
I'm
Kevin
Lam
with
the
planning,
Division
and
tonight
I'll,
be
providing
a
brief
presentation
on
the
sunrise.
South
lead
project.
A
So
I
will
let
the
applicant
kind
of
run
through
some
of
the
project
updates
since
the
first
sprc
meeting.
But
tonight
I
will
be
going
over
these
sphere
sheet
discussion
topics,
so
we
have
transportation,
Green,
Building
and
sustainability
and
then
Community
benefits
foreign.
A
Everyone
to
the
site
and
the
existing
conditions
so
on
the
site.
Currently
there
is
a
vacant
single-family
house
there's
also
the
large
church
building,
which
has
been
occupied
by
the
Redeemer
Church
of
Arlington,
as
well
as
a
daycare
and
a
preschool,
all
of
which
have
successfully
relocated
to
other
spots
in
Arlington,
which
is
great,
then
directly
adjacent
to
the
site,
is
the
Alcova
house,
which
is
a
private
residence,
but
also
designated
a
local
historic
district
in
the
county,
and
then
the
site
is
founded
by
7th
Street.
A
So
here
is
a
view
of
the
site
layout.
As
you
can
see,
the
building
is
oriented
towards
Glebe
Road,
with
a
one-way
driveway
coming
off
of
Glebe
Road
that
serves
the
main
entrance
area
in
Porter
cochair,
as
well
as
a
few
short-term
parking
spaces
and
then
coming
off
of
8th
Street
to
the
South.
We
have
access
to
the
large
surface
parking
lot,
as
well
as
a
secondary
entrance
to
the
building
and
then
off
7th
Street
to
the
north.
A
B
A
Parking
applicant
is
providing
six
spaces
for
visitors,
which
will
be
in
the
form
of
a
bike
rack
by
the
front
and
then
also
for
spaces
in
some
covered
bike.
Racks
for
employees
or
employees
in
the
rear,
and
the
facility
will
also
include
a
employee.
B
A
B
A
Of
the
streetscape,
the
applicant
will
be
improving
all
three
sides
of
the
site,
so
the
sidewalks
will
be
expanded
to
six
feet
and
then
the
planting
strips
will
be
expanded
to
five
and
a
half
feet,
and
all
three
sides
will
be
lined
with
three
trees,
which
will
be
either
planted
in
the
planting
strip
or
at
the
back
of
the
sidewalk
on
site.
Given
some
of
the
utility
conflicts.
A
Moving
on
to
sustainability,
the
applicant
isn't
requesting
additional
bonus
density
for
their
site
plan.
Therefore,
they
are
participating
in
the
Green,
Building
and
Senate
program.
However,
the
project
will
conform
to
the
standard,
cycling
conditions
which
have
other
sustainability
commitments,
these
being
lead
silver,
certification
in
energy,
optimization
performance,
Improvement
of
at
least
20
percent,
energy,
star
appliances
and
water
sense
fixtures,
as
well
as
10
years
of
energy
reporting.
A
In
addition,
in
terms
of
community
benefits,
you
know
again,
since
they
aren't
pursuing
a
bonus
density,
they
are,
you
know,
relatively
limited,
compared
to
other
site
plans
that
do
request
bonus
density.
However,
the
project
will
be
subject
to
the
base,
affordable
housing
contribution,
which
will
be
either
in
the
form
of
a
cash
contribution,
on-site
units
or
off-site
units
and.
A
So,
in
terms
of
the
public
review
process,
it
kicked
off
back
in
February,
which
was
followed
by
an
online
engagement
opportunity
in
March,
and
then
we
have
the
first
SQL
CDC
sgrc
meeting
back
in
late
April
and
looking
ahead.
We
are
anticipating
going
to
the
commissions
and
County
Board,
this
small
and
then.
Lastly,
in
terms
of
community
engagement,
as
I
mentioned,
we
did
hold
an
online
feedback
opportunity,
late
March,
where
we
received
34
respondents.
We
also
conducted
community
outreach
to
the
Alcova
Heights
and
Arlington
Heights
Civic
associations
as
well.
A
As
you
know,
the
standard
promotional
activities
through
e-newsletters
social
media
as.
B
G
All
right
good
evening,
everyone
I'm
Clive
McGraw
with
Sunrise
Senior
Living
I've,
been
told
I
have
about
10
minutes
with
a
lot
to
cover
so
I'm
going
to
try
to
go
through
this
very
quickly
and,
of
course,
very
happy
to
come
back
at
the
end.
G
So,
unfortunately,
the
color
here
is
a
little
bit
awesome.
I,
don't
really
get
to
see
all
of
our
wonderful
green
images,
but
to
start
there
were
a
number
of
follow-ups
from
our
first
sbrc
that
I
wanted
to
tackle
head
on
here.
First,
so
Kevin
I'll
be
reminded
everyone
where
our
site
is
on
South
Glee
between
8th
and
7th.
Here,
the
former
Arlington
Methodist
Church
large
service
parking
lot
and
the
former
Pastor's
house
in
the
northeast
corner
of
the
site.
G
Here
we
have
what
was
our
former
sighting
of
our
building
on
the
site
here
and
our
update
here
now.
It's
gonna
be
a
little
bit
hard
to
tell
unless
you're
coming
over
look
at
my
screen,
but
we
actually
moved.
We
shifted
the
building
six
feet
to
the
east,
closer
to
the
Glebe
Road,
and
this
was
done
in
response
to
requests
from
staff
and
what
this
allows
us
to
use
allows
the
building
to
better
hold
the
street
line
with
leap
Road
for
a
little
bit
more
of
an
urban
condition
and.
G
That
we're
able
to
move
our
building
further
away
from
our
neighbors,
we're
also
able
to
shrink
the
front
drop
off
area
to
reduce
some
of
the
asphalt
there,
and
we
also
again
for
per
staff
requests,
took
a
detailed
look
at
the
porque
share
and
shrunk,
the
design
of
that
to
make
it
a
little
bit
more
urban
and
less
Suburban
looking
feelings
which
we'll
have
more
image
stuff
later
the
existing
landscape
space.
Today,
you
can
see
in
hatching
where
some
of
the
green
areas
are
today,
obviously
the
large
surface
parking
lot.
G
This
is
our
previous
landscape
space
here
in
green,
and
this
is
that
landscape
space
today
has
there
been
a
number
of
improvements
we
want
to
share
with,
with
all
of
you,
so
first
of
all,
we've
shifted
the
building,
as
I
mentioned
six
feet
to
the
east.
This
allowed
us
to
introduce
even
further
biophilic
and
Native
plantings
at
the
site.
It
also
allowed
us
to
increase
that
rear
Port
ER.
G
The
svrc
had
requested
that
we
look
at
that
to
see
if
we
expand
it
so
now
that
space
is
grown
by
over
800
square
feet,
we're
also
able
to
by
Shifting
the
building,
introduce
further
planting
strips
within
that
parking
lot.
So
we
have
an
additional
row
of
trees
in
the
parking
lot
and
we're
actually
able
to
further
expand
the
Landscaping
on
the
western
edge
of
the
property
that
fronts
our
neighbors,
including
the
Alcova
house.
G
We
were
able
to
add
per
svrc
requests
to
areas
of
green
roof,
both
on
Orca
share
and
on
the
loading
docks,
I'll
Circle
that
here
in
Orchestra
and
the
little
dock
of
the
rear
and
finally,
we're
actually
able
to
further
decrease
asphalt
by
over
3
000
square
feet,
and
so
we're
going
to
do
that
by
two
ways.
One
by
Shifting,
the
building
to
the
east.
We
wrote
to
shrink
the
driveway
in
the
front
very
slightly.
G
The
other
item
was,
we
were
able
to
introduce
permeable
pavers,
which
I'd
like
to
get
into
more
details
here,
so
is
that
steam
landscape
playing
without
the
hatching
on
it
I
wanted
to
make
sure
we
showed
this
just
to
show
how
green
and
vibrant
the
Landscaping
here
is
going
to
be
on
site
and
I
also
do
want
to
point
out
the
the
permeable
pavers
I
think
it's
important
thing
to
note.
So.
G
From
svrc,
we
did
take
it
back
and
we
studied
it
very
diligently.
The
challenge
with
the
site
is:
there's
a
lot
of
conflicts,
the
utilities
running
through
the
site
where
you
can't
have
permeable
favors.
What
we
found,
though,
is
this
entire
strip,
which
is
very
hard
for
you
all
to
see,
but.
B
G
So
moving
on
to
some
of
the
architectural
views
of
the
site,
this
was
the
original
view.
This
is
the
view
we
showed
last
time
at
svrc
from
leave
Road,
and
this
is
our
our
new
View
today.
So
the
first
thing
I'll
point
out
is
the
Orca
share.
As
I
mentioned,
we
work
to
shrink
the
overall
size
of
this.
We
also
flattened
the
roof
that
allowed
us
to
have
the
green.
B
G
There
we
also
made
a
number
of
updates
to
design
and
it's
really
driven
by
two
factors,
one
to
be
more
reflective
of
the
neighborhood
design
and
also
be
more
reflective
of
the
Arts
and
Crafts
style.
So
we
worked
with
the
colored
palette
to
introduce
a
richer
color
palette.
That
I
think
is
a
little
bit
more
reflective
of
the
neighborhood.
In
addition,
at
the
top
here,
we
had
vertical
siding
before
and
now
we've
actually
introduced
architectural
shingles
there.
G
This
is
the
view
of
seventh
and
Glee.
This
was
the
the
previous
you.
This
is
our
new
View
today.
So
just
a
couple
things
to
point
out.
First
of
all,
hopefully
you
felt
the
presence
a
little
bit
we're
definitely
holding
that
street
wall
a
little
bit
more,
which
we
think
is
a
really
nice
feature.
In
addition,
we've
upgraded
the
stone
at
the
base
of
the
building
to
be
more
effective,
we've
actually
found
in
the
actual
neighborhood
here's
a
view
from
Ethan
Glebe
and
here's
our
updated
view.
G
So
a
couple
things
to
point
out
before
we
had
kind
of
a
monolithic,
brick
design,
and
now
we
actually
have
a
blended
brick
design
that
we
think
is
a
much
nicer
feature
here.
In
addition
for
request
from
svrc,
where
available,
we've
actually
shrunk
Windows.
This
is
a
good
opportunity
to
show
you
the
left
side.
Here
you
can
see
some
of
the
windows
here.
We've
been
able
to
reduce
the
size
as
we
have
in
other
places,
it's
just
a
good
and
then
finally
the
view
of
the
rear
of
the
building.
G
We
showed
this
at
the
last
sprc
we
said
we
were
committed
to
further
reducing
the
massing
in
the
rear
closest
to
our
residential
neighbor.
As
a
highlighted
in
green
and
here's
that
New
View
today,
I
think
the
easiest
place
to
see
it's
on
the
left
side
here
is
the
north
Wing
we've
reduced
the
massing
there.
It's
a
little
bit
tougher
to
see
here
because
of
the
tree,
but
the
masking
has
also
been
reduced
on
this
corner
of
the
building.
G
And
finally,
we
had
a
number
of
questions
about
Landscaping
how
it's
really
going
to
look
and
feel
on
the
sites.
We
have
a
number
of
images
around
the
site:
I'd
love
to
share
with
everyone,
so
this
is
for
sand.
East,
Street
you're,
looking
East
towards
Glebe
Road,
just
highlighting
just
the
absolute
beautiful
landscaping,
all
along
the
building,
lots
of
green
area
and
on
this
side
of
the
project,
Street
trees,
both
outbound
and
inbound,
to.
G
Here's
another
one
of
those
images
on
E
Street,
looking
towards
Glebe
Road.
Here
we
have
the
corner
of
Ethan
Glebe.
This
again
request
from
sbrc
to
study
the
the
bus,
the
bus
stop
and
how
we
can
enhance
the
Landscaping
there.
So
we've
really
focused
on
enhancing
the
Landscaping
all
around
the
bus.
Stop
here's
another
view
of
that.
G
We
do
want
to
highlight
this
staff
had
a
number
of
questions
and
requests
about
our
our
small
parking
area.
Here,
it's
important
for
operations
to
have
a
couple
limited
amount
of
temporary
spaces.
It's
really
just
for
short-term
drop
off
and
pickup.
Obviously,
it's
a
very
small
parking
lot.
It'll
be
very
well
landscaped
from
the
street.
As
you
can
see
here.
G
This
is
a
view
of
Lee
Road.
Looking
South
I'll
point
out
again
the
pork
and
share
with
the
flat
roof.
So
we
can
have
the
green
roof
here.
G
Obviously,
Street
trees
I'll
get
into
this
in
more
detail,
but
there
are
a
number
of
issues
with
utility
conflicts,
so
the
street
trees
here
will
actually
be
inbound
on
the
sidewalk,
and
then
this
is
a
view
of
7th
Street
looking
East
again
Street
trees,
inbound
but
still
Street
trees,
all
along
the
frontage,
as
well
as
wonderful
Landscaping,
along
the
edge
of
the
building
and
then
finally,
in
terms
of
new
views,
I'll
just
pause
for
a
second,
so
everyone
can
reorientate
themselves.
G
We
have
a
number
of
questions
of
what
our
rear
Garden
was
going
to
look
and
feel
like.
So
we
produce
a
number
of
images.
So
this
is,
if
you're,
in
the
rear
of
the
building
you're
staying
on
the
south
side
of
the
garden
looking
North,
and
so
you
can
see
here,
there's
going
to
be
a
number
of
walking
paths,
abundance
of
trees
and
other
Landscaping,
as
well
as
open
areas
for
events
and
games
for
our
residents.
G
This
is
the
view
if
you've
moved
a
little
bit
further
north
in
that
space,
now
you're.
Looking
at
the
Northern
end
as
of
right
now,
we
are
programming
this
space,
it's
being
kind
of
our
garden
center.
One
of
our
most
popular
clubs
for
our
residents
is
typically
our
Garden
Club
residents,
absolutely
lovely
Garden,
especially
an
environment
like
Northern
Virginia,
so
we'll
have
that
planned
here.
G
Finally,
one
more
image
just
to
show
the
detail
of
the
wonderful
different
variety
of
native
plants:
we'll
have
it
that's
my
hopefully
a
quick
catch
up
from
last
time
now
into
new
topics,
so,
first
off
Transportation
kind
of
a
macro
map,
obviously,
where
the
orange
dot
down
in
the
bottom.
It's
just
highlighting
the
the
Metro
System
in
Arlington.
Obviously
we
all
know
Arlington's
got
a
wonderful
Metro
System.
Our
closest
station
is
Boston
it's
about
a
mile
and
a
half
of
lead
Road.
G
This
is
a
little
bit
more
zoomed
in
our
site
here,
right
in
the
middle
of
the
page.
The
bus
Network
in
this
area
is
wonderful.
Obviously,
the
bus
stop
literally
in
front
of
the
building,
there's
also
a
number
of
bus
stops
up
and
down
Glebe
Road
and
along
Columbia
Pike.
In
addition,
there
are
a
number
of
bikes
these
Bike
Share
stations
around
the
site
as
well.
G
We
do
find
that
the
site
is
extremely
well
connected
by
both
sidewalks
roadways,
bus
lines,
Metro
and
bicycle
facilities.
We've
also
studied
the
amount
of
vehicular
trips
that
are
going
to
be
generated
here
and
what
we
found
is
our
project
is
actually
going
to
reduce
the
number
of
trips
compared
to
what's
there
today
with
the
church
and
daycares.
G
We
had
this
slide
last
time.
Our
programming
has
not
changed
in
terms
of
our
square
footage
number
of
units.
As
Kevin
mentioned,
we
will
have
54
parking
spaces,
which
is
a
ratio
of
about
0.55
per
unit.
G
Just
to
look
at
some
of
the
building
access
here
from
the
top
of
the
page,
trucks
will
come
down.
Glebe
Road
they'll
come
down
seventh
and
pull
into
the
site.
All
truck
movements
will
occur
on
site.
They
will
back
into
the
loading
dock.
It
will
be
a
completely
enclosed
loading,
space,
they'll,
unload
and
then
pull
out
to
the
light
here
at
seventh
and
exit
for
short-term
vehicular
trips,
drop-offs
or
Amazon
UPS
they'll
pull
into
the
front
for
the
drop
off
here
and
pull
out
and
for
both
employee
and
long-term
visitor
parking.
G
B
G
The
rear
for
our
visitors
and
employees
and
we
do
provide
both
locker
rooms
and
shower
facility
facilities
for
our
employees.
Couple
other
items
on
Transportation
at
the
corner
of
7th
and
Glebe.
We
will
be
providing
new
curb
ramps.
There
will
be
new
pedestrian
push.
Buttons
will
also
provide
an
easement
for.
B
G
County
control
equipment
and
at
Ethan
Glebe
there'll
also
be
new,
curb
ramps,
as
well
as
new
striping
done
by
Sunrise.
Before
that,
intersection
wanted
to
touch
on
The
Pedestrian
experience
in
particular
on
Glebe
Road.
So
to
be
perfectly
honest,
The
Experience!
That's
there
today
is
not
a
wonderful
there's,
a
existing
retaining
wall.
There
are
no
Street
trees,
the
sidewalk's
only
five
feet
wide
and
you're,
only
a
foot
and
a
half
off
the
curve.
It's
really
as.
G
Today,
however,
we
think
we're
going
to
vastly
improve
the
experience
so
for
on
the
lead
road
that
retaining
will
be
removed.
We
will
be
installing
a
landscape
buffer.
You
will
be
a
fully
five
and
a
half
feet
set
back
from
the
curb
and
the
sidewalk
will
be
expanded
from
five
to
six
feet
on
the
lead
on
Seventh
and
8th,
where
there
are
four
foot
sidewalks,
those
will
be
expanded
to
six
feet.
G
This
is
a
street
looking
West
building
on
the
right
side,
landscaped
area,
six
foot,
sidewalk
five
and
a
half
foot
bumper,
with
three
trees
on
E,
Street
and
finally,
Seventh
Street,
also
looking
West
five
and
a
half
foot
buffer,
six
foot
sidewalk
and
then
inbound
Street
trees
there.
G
House,
so
this
is
that
view
from
within
the
parking
lot,
the
Alcova
house
in
the
rear.
Here
there
will
be
tree
islands
with
plantings
and
trees
within
the
parking
lot,
a
small
knee
wall
and
then
very
robust
plantings
and
trees,
and
then
beyond
that,
the
neighbors
fence
and
their
trees
there'll
be
quite
a
lot
of
buffer
between
our
parking
lot
and
then
to
touch
on
sustainability
quickly,
I'm
proud
to
say
that
we
will,
after
a
traditional
or
from
a
team,
Bill
to
hit
the
silver
for
the
project.
G
G
Finally,
our
last
is
we
received
a
number
of
questions
about
using
bird
friendly
materials.
This
is
something
our
team
took
back
and
studied
quite
intently.
So
what
we
found
was
that
the
use
of
UV
Coatings
for
what
they
call
Bird
glass,
is
typically
used
for
kind
of
storefront
or
curtain
wall
system.
So
you
imagine
a
glass
skyscraper
in
Arlington
or
a
residential
project.
That's
a
high-rise
It's
All
Glass.
They
typically
made
glass
that
they
call
Bird
glass
or
something
like
that
for
our
projects
for
Sunrise.
G
A
G
Bird
glass
or
having
grit
so
we're
very
confident
this
is
going
to
be
a
bird
friendly
project.
I
actually
went
and
met
with
our
head
of
facilities
that
helps
manage
our
300
sunrises
across
North
America,
and
he
said
we
didn't
have
a
single,
reportable
incident
of
a
burden
impact
of
any
of
our
buildings
that
he
was
aware
of
of
the
20
years.
That
he's
worked
here
so
we're
very
confident
that,
with
our
design
with
our
residential
windows
with
our
screens,
it'll
be
a
very
important
okay.
A
It's
a
good
presentation,
okay,
so
on
the
agenda
tonight
we
have
any
comments
and
feedbacks
to
the
applicant
relative
to
our
last
meeting.
So
we'll
start
there
and
then
we'll
roll
into
the
sustainability
and
then
we'll
do
transportation
slightly
changing
the
sequence
of
tonight's
agenda.
So
first
I
want
to
start
with
any
questions,
any
clarifications
or
any
comments
to
the
changes
that
have
occurred
since
the
last
meeting.
F
Yeah
I,
just
because
bird
friendly
glass
top
that
comes
up
in
most
of
our
sprc
s.
Can
one
of
you
get
to
me
just
so:
I
have
it
for
my
future
reference.
Whatever
studies
that
you
cited,
that
you
know
Elders,
who
have
dementia,
that
this
causes
this.
H
Are
always
talking
about
I
would
love
to
see
that
too.
On
the
it's
interesting
and.
B
O
G
Yes,
so
what
you're
seeing
here
on
the
third
floor
is
actually
a
balcony
space
for
our
residents
with
dimension,
so
there's
a
secured
four
of
for
them
on
the
third
floor.
Of
course
we
want
to
have
outdoor
space
then
as
well.
So
that's
what
this
space
is
here,
so
this
is
just
a
covered
patio
below
them.
G
O
A
A
N
At
any
rate,
I
I
was
wondering
if
you
had
said
anything
about
an
affordable
housing
and
because
of
the
need
really
really
for
affordable.
N
And
and
going
right
along
with
that,
the
huge
County
again
I
know
I
asked
last
time,
but
the
the
total
number
of
units
and
accessible.
N
And
how
many
will
be
referrals,
Fair,
Housing,
Act
accessible,
which
I
presumed.
A
Well,
Doris
I'll
address
the
affordable
question,
then
I'll.
Let
Clyde
talk
to
the
question,
so
we've
looked
really
hard
at
this.
We've
heard
a
lot
of
comments
for
you
and
from
others
about
the
need
for
affordable,
Senior
Care
in
Arlington
I
used
to
be
on
the
board
of
Culpepper
Gardens,
so
I
know
how
much
goes
into
that
and
how
how
little
there
is
here.
One
of
the
things
we've
probably
been
looking
at
it
is
the
ability
to
Discount
the
rent
versus
discounting
the
care
right.
A
It
ends
up
being
a
very
different
economic
metric
because
you
know
Sunrise
provides
food,
they
provide
some
basic
assistance,
they
provide
transportation,
and
so
these
are
additional
costs.
On
top
of
the
rent
that
you
would
see
it
in
affordable,
say
Apartment
project.
It
would
also
be
the
equivalent
of
okay
we're
going
to
provide
reduced
rents,
but
we're
also
going
to
cover
some
Transportation
costs
and
cover
food
costs.
Some
of
these
other
items
that
go
into
that.
A
M
A
Down
as
your
typical
apart
governments,
that
being
said,
we
are,
as
Kevin
mentioned
in
his
slides.
We
are
going
to
be
meeting
the
affordable
housing
requirements
of
the
ordinance,
so
we're
going
to
have
the
zoning
ordinance
has
a
requirement
for
affordable
housing
contributions
that
can
be
cash
or
on-site
units
that
doesn't
have
to
be
determined
until
you're
into
the
permitting
process.
So
we
are
going
to
agree
in
our
conditions
that
we're
going
to
comply
with
that
affordable
housing
condition
and
the
requirements
that
we
work.
It
means
debate
correct.
That's
right!
That's
right!.
A
Pastors
we
don't
know
yet
it's
something
that
is
there's
a
before
your
I
think
it's
the
footing
the
grade
permit.
You
have
to
give
notice
to
the
county
that
you're
either
going
to
provide
a
cash
payment,
provide
on-site
units
provide
off-site
units
is
another
way
to
meet
that
requirement.
So
there
are
multiple
ways
to
do
it
and
you
don't
commit
that
doesn't
end
up
being
chosen
at
this
point.
It's
kind
of
down
the
road
during
the
permitting.
N
B
N
G
I
appreciate
you
bringing
up
against.
Do
you
remember
you
asked
the
last
time
we
did.
The
the
insurance
is
10,
but
I
have
my
own
picture
team,
10.
yep
to
10
units.
Guess.
N
G
No,
it's
it's
all
assist
living
in
memory
here,
it'll
be
about
two-thirds
assisted
living
in
one-third
memory.
G
The
Jefferson
has
mostly
independent
living.
There
is
I
believe
one
or
potentially
two
floors
that
have
Assisted
Living.
It's
only
assisted
living
a
memory
here,
not
Independent
Living,
the
difference
being
independent
living
is
simply
for
seniors,
where
there's
no
care
provided,
but
for
the
seniors
of
this
community
there
will
be
care
provided
for
all.
A
Oh
yeah,
let's
do
a
quick
introduction.
We
have
two
planning
Commissioners
joining
us.
Cevanchi
is
on
here
and
Sarah.
If
you
don't
mind
doing
a
quick
introduction.
F
O
Yeah
but
my
question
and
you
partially
answered
it.
Thank
you
about
transportation
and
the
middle
of
my
concern.
How
many
pedestrians
who
live
there
are
actually
going
to
have
pedestrian
experiences,
so
you
said
that
one-third
of
them
are
in
memory.
O
G
O
O
O
A
H
B
H
Looked
at
the
recorded
recording
of
the
first
csprc
and
essentially
a
finance
sustainability,
side,
I
I
think,
especially
with
some
of
the
improvements
you've
made
over
time.
I
think
it
looks,
looks
really
nice.
The
building
is
super
attractive
and
the
Landscaping
looks
nice.
It's
great
that,
as
compared
to
status
quo
now
the
landscape
spaces
and
tree
canopy
camp
in
Greece
and
the
asphalt
permeable
surface
will
decrease
and
even
better
I.
H
Had
it
as
a
note
that
how
about
pavers
and
then
you
just
said
it
I'm
wondering
if
you
also
might
consider
a
two-story
shrink,
the
footprints
I
mean
I.
B
H
To
get
more
green
space
should
that
be
something
you
want
to
do,
however,
on
the
Green
Building
side,
it
is
the
most
unambitious
project
that
our
commission
has
seen
and.
B
H
But
what
is
not
voluntary
is
the
fact
that
we're
facing
a
climate,
Arlington
County
in
our
community
energy
plan
has
adopted
a
goal
as
a
number
of
years
ago
that
we
will
be
at
carbon
neutral,
County
Community
by
2050,
and
we
are
pushing
every
new
arc
Mission
every
new
development
that
comes
into
the
County
to
strive
as
hard
as
it
can
to
reduce
emissions,
and
you
know
it
it
really.
H
You
know
I
noticed
in
the
beginning
of
your
first
presentation
that
at
Sunrise
is
a
champion
for
quality
of
life
for
all
seniors,
but
we
need
to
Champion
the
quality
of
life
for
all
our
littletonians
and.
B
H
Know
I'm
getting
up
soapbox
a
little
bit,
but
it's
a
really
important,
Point
and
I'm
wondering
what
is
holding
you
back
from
making
more
improvements
on
the
Green
Building
side.
Very
specifically,
you
have
fossil
fueled,
Building,
Systems,
domestic
hot
water
HVAC.
H
B
H
Minimum
make
the
building
electric
ready
electric
ready
for
HVAC
and
for
domestic
alcohol.
The
Energy
Efficiency
must
be
significantly
feelings
and
I
I.
You
made
that
point
that
you
are
striving
and
you're
hoping
to
get
the
above,
20
I
did
look
at
the
the
original
and
revised
lead
scorecard,
and
energy
and
atmosphere
is
one
of
the
weakest
areas
on
the
scorecard
and
there's.
H
Left
on
the
table
that
it
seems
to
me
which
further
efforts
and
intention,
given
the
climate
crisis,
that
you
might
make
some
improvements.
H
I
mean
essentially
that's
that's
the
key
Point.
Our
commission
would
be
really
pleased
to
talk
a
little
further
if
you
wanted
more
ideas
or
hearing
a.
P
H
What
some
of
the
other
applicants
have
done?
There
are
also
a
number
of
organizations
out
there
that
that
coach
organizations
about
how
to
reduce
carbon
emissions.
There
is
the
option,
and
this
is
sort
of
the
gold
standard
of
doing
a
zero
carbon
energy
assessment
of
the
project,
which
contributes
ideas,
how
to
make
the
building.
B
H
H
H
Really
beautiful
I'd
love
to
see
that
you
are
installing
beautiful
systems
that
are
gonna,
provide
cleaner.
B
H
For
for
Arlington
for
the
state
country,
more
prosaically
I
did
notice
that
there
you
will
have
some
in
parking
area.
Some
AV
charging
I
see
one
point
on
the
leading
scorer
card
and
there's
a
mention
of
it.
Our
commission,
the
the
standard,
the
Arlington
standard
for
those
whose
projects
that
go
through
the
Green
Building
Assessment
program
is
or
four
or
five
percent
of
parking
spaces
with
easy,
Chargers
and
10
that
are
electric
ready,
and
our
commission
urges
you
to
consider
making
50
of
the
parking
lots
of
electric
Credit
Now.
H
This
project
may
be
slightly
different,
because
many
of
the
people
who
are
coming
to
park
are
not
living
there,
and
so
you
know,
I
will
I
will
grant
you
that
that
baby
doesn't
make
as
much
sense
but
in
apartment
buildings
where
people
live
and
stay
overnight.
Obviously,
in
the
car
stay
overnight
in
the
future,
we're
going
to
have
electric
vehicles,
so
that's
something
we
wish.
H
Let
me
see
if
any
any
other
detail
again
I
would
I
would
just
welcome
reach
out
if
you'd,
like
any
more
information.
We're
happy
share
ideas
thanks
and
a
beautiful
project.
Thank.
A
You
so
much
thank
you,
commissioner.
Kerry
I
will
to
align
myself
with
those
common
I
think
the
other
thing
that
I
was
thinking
as
meeting
on
the
sunrise
believe
North
I
feel,
like
we've
run
into
like
a
short
building
life
cycle.
You.
A
That
80s,
late
80s
or
whenever
it
was
built
building,
is
already
being
torn
down
and
so
I'm
wondering
right
as
part
of
the
environmental
agenda
sort
of
future
structure
a
little
bit
and
making
sure
that
you
know
sort
of
more
energy,
efficient
and
whatnot,
and
you
know
ready
for
electrification
or
whatnot.
So
as
much
as
you
can
sort
of
look
into
that,
and
also
you
know,
encourage
that.
Okay
with
that,
anyone
want
to
opine
or
comment
on
the
sustainability
item,
all
right,
I
think
I
strongly
encourage.
Also
you
to.
A
Thank
you
great
all
right
is
that
it.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner
Kerry,
and
we
will
now
switch
to.
A
H
G
G
O
I
like
how
you
read
the
parking
lot,
how
do
people
it
seems
like
a
really
good
type
way
if
you
end
up
in
the
end
of
the
parking
lot,
how
do
you
get
back
out?
Is
there
room
to
do.
G
That
yeah,
so
there's
really
only
two
drywalls
in
the
parking
lot.
So
let's
say
we're
going
south
done
leave.
Maybe
a
right
turn.
People
in
the
parking
lot
either
going
to
park
in
this
first
row
or
you
pull
here
and
either
Park
in
this
row
here
or
park
in
the
rear.
So
I
guess
the
furthest
you
go.
Is
you
pull
in?
Well,
it's
a
rear
and
Park,
and
then
we
can
come
out
if
you
come
out
this
way.
B
G
Yes,
I
could
tell
you
right
now.
O
But
I'm
glad
you
have
that
okay
and
for
the
loading
dock,
what
types
of
vehicles
normally
loaded,
unloaded
and
you're
not
gonna,
have
moving
large
garbage.
G
G
Yeah
we
have
our.
We
have
the
best
civil
engine
business
here
and
they've
planned
it
all
out
for.
O
And
your
Pluto
space
in
the
front
how
many
spaces
do.
B
O
So
somebody
can
help
the
Kudo
people,
who
are,
of
course,
okay
walking
two
entrance
exits.
There
are
there.
Is
there
an
entrance
exit
on
the
North
End
anymore.
G
G
B
G
You
you
can
walk
all
the
way
around,
except
for
here
there
is
no
access
through
the
loading
dock,
because
there
is
actually
a
great
change
here
which
will
require
retaining
walls
and
stairs
which
are
not
super
friendly.
So
someone
wants
to
go
for
a
walk
around.
You
could
go
all
the
way
around
the
building
and
then
we.
K
B
G
G
G
B
O
O
Oh,
and
is
the
path
going
to
be
lit
after
Dark.
O
To
each
game,
I'm
glad
I'm
very
excited
by
your
sidewalks
and
why?
O
H
O
B
O
For
the
next
few
years
and
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
more
pedestrian
and
biking
manufacturing
there,
so
the
wonderful
50
foreign
saying
that
my
other
issue
with
that
is
older.
Pedestrians
like
me,
are
lower
and
they
don't
see
as
well
they're
here
as
well,
we
do
get
more
space,
we
become
ability,
devices
become
wheelchairs,
we
often
travel
groups,
so
six,
you
know,
starts
to
be
a
little
bit
difficult,
IES.
O
Leave
street
is
horrible,
it
is,
and
a
lot
of
these
questions
are
now
really
more
for
Robin
they're,
speeding,
it's
curvy,
the
pipelines
are
durable.
It's
hilly!
It's
not
really.
Your
concern,
but
I
hope.
G
O
Here
and
I'm
concerned
about
the
intersection
of
seventh
and
and
leave,
and
that
seventh
is
totally
out
of
alignment
and
the
the
crosswalk
in
is
really
at
an
angle,
so
pedestrians
are
going
further
and
because
they're
not
aligned
at
some
point,
we
can't
see
the
traffic
as
well,
so
it
is
more
risk
to
us.
So
again,
there's
probably
nothing
you
can
fix.
You
are
making
some
improve.
O
Ment
and
again,
this
is
that
you,
the
travel
age,
are
12
feet
wide.
I
believe
why.
B
E
A
question
for
the
sidewalls
strip
between
the
curve
and
the
sidewalker
is
that
going
to
be
public
right-of-way
or
will
be
in
public
use
of
the
property
that
you're
building?
That
used
to
be
part
of
the
property?
E
E
It's
really
weird,
there's
a
lot
of
sometimes
private
property.
That's
the
middle
of
the
street
right,
okay,
working
I!
Definitely
support
dropping
required
percentage.
So
if
you're
going
down,
that
makes
perfect
sense
to
me.
I
love
that
if,
in
the
future,
it's
clear
that
but
isn't
being
used,
that
much
that
you
have
extra
a
lot
of
extra
spaces
at
that
at
some
point,
be
converted
to
create
space.
E
Open
Space
Landscape
space
amenity
space
for
the
for
the
for
the
residents,
so
that
we're
not
having
even
more
asphalt
I
mean
it's
great,
the
way
to
Shrunk
the
asphalt.
It's
really
really
good,
including
the
listening
I,
think
I
think
it
is
shrink.
The
Corporate
Court
report
could
share
area
and
trend
from
the
back
of
that.
E
That
was
deadly
Direction
people
all
wanted
to
go
so,
who
knows,
but
going
forward
in
the
decades
to
come,
if
it
turned
that
you
don't
need
those
spaces
seriously
considered
pulling
that
up
and
turning
that
over
the
Green
Space,
given
that
there
is
still
a
pretty
decent
amount
of
asphalt
here.
How
are
you
dealing
with
the
storm
water
issues.
K
So,
with
the
actual.
E
E
O
Yeah,
it's
just
a
terrible
lung
diagonal
because
yeah
those
our
shelters
are
great
they're,
big,
there's
a
double
bench.
There's
a
white
space.
O
E
Good,
that's
what
I
wanted
to
hear?
Okay,
yeah,
that
those
are
the
only
questions.
A
F
Thank
you,
Jim
Nia,
yeah
and
I
may
have
missed
this,
but
where
are
the
handicappers.
G
G
G
G
So
there
you
can
see
the
very
fluid
hard
to
tell
on
the
screen
here,
but
there's
one
right
by
the
front
drop
off
and
then
there's
two
right
by
the
rear
entrance.
B
G
G
L
Thanks
Mr
chair
just
a
quick
question
about
the
portrait
chair,
sure
I'm
not
pronouncing
that
correctly.
Is
there
yeah
exactly
are
there?
Is
there
any
calming
measure
like
any
little
speed
bump?
Is
there
anything
just
to
prevent
folks
from
whipping
in
and
out
I
know
some
of
our
new
newer
developments
along
the
pike
have
have
utilized
this
I'm.
K
B
K
A
N
A
couple
of
things:
what
did
you
say?
The
parking
ratio
is
and
is
only
an
outdoor
lot
from
you
know,
open
lot
rather
than
photographer.
It's.
G
Only
an
outdoor
a
lot,
the
the
ratio
is
0.55
species
per
unit.
G
Metro,
I
wouldn't
say
the
majority.
We
we
our
our
visit,
our
visitors,
employees
arrive
from
a
variety
of
methods,
so
some
of
them
I'm
sure
we'll
use
Metro.
Some
will
walk
some
like
sure.
Many
will
take
the
bus
and
then
I'm
sure
plenty
of
them
will
also
Drive
their
own
car.
N
So
I
I
raised
the
concern
with
with
that
ratio,
because,
because
actually,
that
location
in
I
drive
public
transit,
all
those
all
my
life,
so
that
that
location
is
not
all
that
friendly
to
somebody
who
who
doesn't
drive
and
has
to
is
public
transit,
it's
okay,
but
but
I'm
concerned
that
it's
really
lower
than
that.
It
needs
to
be
particular
for
senior
independent,
living
and,
and
the
improvements
are
very.
The
improvements
to
the
sidewalks
and
the
intersections
are
very,
very
important
and
will
encourage
people
to
use
Mass
experiences.
N
I
am
concerned
that
actually
that
wouldn't
necessarily
be
either
a
wise
or
or
include,
choice
or
or
seniors,
and
and
assuming
that
they
aren't
going
to
be
driving
and
using
your
vehicle
as
well
service
I
think
you
know
kind
of
concerns
me
I.
Actually,
if
if
this
was
if
this
was,
maybe
you
know
if
this
was
a
a
location,
if,
if
this
was
a
regular
presidential
ability?
What
because
it
is
pretty
far
from
you,
know
the
subway
border,
what
what
the
ratio
would
be
I
think
it's
higher.
Is
it.
A
Come
through
Doris
you're
right
are
in
Metro
areas,
and
so
the
residential
parking
policy
applies
specifically
to
Metro
areas.
I,
don't
believe
that
there's
a
staff
or
someone
else
in
the
correct
me
I,
don't
believe.
There's
any
policy
related
to
multi-family
parking
in
this
part
of
the
county.
So
we
don't
have
the
same
guide
posts
that
that
we
do
in
those
other
areas.
That
would
tell
us
you
know
these.
N
N
And
the
other
thing
that
I'm
concerned
about
is
that
I
know
that
the
people
in
in
the
assistant
living
with
whatever
portion
of
the
building
will
have
AIDS
during
the
day
and
in
the
evening.
But
they
they
are,
are
minority
rights,
so
people
who
are
living
in
Independent,
Living
life
or
their
Jeffersons.
They
hire
their
own
personal
assistance
from
an
agency
or
whatever,
and
they
have
to
come
and
they
have
to
be
to
be
able
to
park
as
well
and.
N
It's
Assisted,
Living
I
thought.
You
said
earlier
this.
N
Wrong
I
got
you
said
you
said
two-thirds
or
one-thirds
like
that
which
was
I'm.
Sorry
I
apologize,
okay,
but
the
other
thing
is
that
you
build
in
a
drop-off
area
for
your
for
the
building
right,
correct
and
that
will
be
available
to
Paratransit
Paratransit,
yes,
okay,
so
one
of
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
ask
about
about
circulating
through
what
would
you
consider
the
accessible
route
of
travel
from
the
entrance
to
the
building
to
chew
the
two
years?
Public
transit?
G
So
the
the
wonderful
thing
about
this
site
is,
we
actually
have
a
bus
stop
directly
in
front
of
the
building
the
path
of
travel.
So
so
this
is
the
front
door
here
you
walk
out
and
turn
a
right
and
you're
on
the
sidewalk
and
the
bus.
Stop
is
literally,
you
don't
have
to
go
up
and
down.
It's
all
fully
accessible.
G
N
N
G
G
B
M
Sorry
I
don't
know
if
that's
me,
yeah,
but
I
appreciate.
You
recognize
me
and
thanks
a
lot
for
your
presentation.
One
just
want
to
start
really
thankful
for
the
previous
commissioner.
Talking
about
the
the
energy
and
sustainability
from
Arlington
Heights,
there
is
a
considerable
concern
about
a
building
a
facility.
That's
going
to
be
with
our
within
our
community
for
decades,
maybe
100
plus
years
and
and
just
hitting
the
leads
silver
certification.
M
We
would
definitely
love
to
see
something
go
go
above
and
beyond
that
and
look
at
where
the
energy
sources
are
coming
from
and
being
renewable
by
by
2035,
which
is
a
community
energy
plan
to
to
parking
and
and
that
aspect
you
know,
looking
at
the
number
of
employees,
you'll
have
I
think
that
the
main
shift
is
33
people,
33
employees
and
changing
over
to
17..
M
If
you
said
all
those
people
were
driving,
that's
50
parking
spots
of
your
54..
It
doesn't
leave
a
lot
of
room
for
residents
and
your
visitors,
so
I
know
you're,
asking
for
a
deviation
of
the
zoning
I,
certainly
I,
think
from
from
the
Arlington
Heights
we're
worried
about
the
Overflow
that
might
go
on
to
7th
and
8th
Street
and
elsewhere.
M
G
Yeah,
thank
you
Steve.
It's
a
it's
a
good
point,
so
I
guess
the
first
thing
I'll
say
is
it's
very
rare
that
every
one
of
our
employees
will
have
their
own
individual
car
to
drive
is
point
one
and
point
to
you
during
that
shift
changeover.
It's
not
like
all.
33
people
stay
until
all
17
people
get
there
and
then
they
leave.
So
it's
more
of
a
flow
than
that.
G
So
the
the
possibility
of
every
employee
having
their
own
vehicle
and
all
being
parked
at
the
same
time
would
would
frankly
just
just
not
happen.
It's
much
more
likely
that
many
of
our
employees
will
use
phone.
Transportation
they'll
car
share,
they'll
be
dropped
off
by
relatives,
so
it'll
actually
be
a
much
lower
portion
of
the
employees.
That'll
actually
drive
that
than
the
full
load.
M
G
A
G
O
G
If
we
I
imagine,
we
probably
do
have
a
number
of
exterior
Outlets,
but
we
could
certainly
make
sure
that
we
have
a
couple
of
year
where
people
would
park
their
bikes.
That
would
be.
G
Bikes,
yes,
and
in
the
rear,
the
bike
will
actually
spots
are,
are
covered
right
over
there.
B
A
All
right
we're
ready
to
wrap
up
transportation
and
move
to
community
benefits.
Great
Community
benefits
is
now
the
topic
of
discussion.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions?
F
I
just
wanted
to
revisit
the
affordable
housing
so
being
that
seniors
are
now
limited
budgets,
they
don't
have
income
coming
in
unless
they've
been
fortunate
enough
to
plan
for
their
retirements
and
have
401ks
and
things,
but
that's
not
probably
the
majority.
F
So
this
building
you
have
to
have
a
certain
level
of
insurance
may
be
able
to
get
in
there.
Not
everybody
is
good
at
you
to
be
able
to
take
advantage
of
this
building
so
I'm,
probably
one
of
the
ones
that
always
says
we
should
have
on-site,
affordable
units,
and
this
could
become
a
deal
breaker
for
me.
F
You
don't
have
that
at
this
site,
because
it's
just
it's
becoming
a
crisis,
and
it's
unfortunate
in
an
expensive
place
like
this,
where
people
have
done
whatever
they
can
do
to
hold
on
to
stay
here,
that
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
take
advantage
of
a
place
like
this.
So
that's
just
my
take.
N
The
two-thirds
that
are
Assisted
Living
units
how
much
per
month
you
estimate
that
they'll
cost
the
renderers.
These
are
all
rentals
right.
N
G
N
F
G
An
individual
for
for
usual,
so
we're
talking
about
the
rental
unit
of
a
unit
would
likely
be
forty.
Six
thousand
dollars
a
month
eventually
have
other
services,
including
here
that
are
then
in
addition
to
that
so
you're,
probably
not
that
far
off
doors,
it
could
be,
as
you
said,
all
in
maybe
seven
to
ten
thousand
dollars
for
everything.
For.
N
An
individual
correct
so
so
my
point
is
that
the
whole
issue
of
an
affordable
housing
plan
for
for
this
development
and
friends
like
it
are
very
important,
because
the
only
people
you
would
be
able
to
attract
or
that
you're
going
to
track
and
able
to
go
in
there
to
live
will
be,
will
be
people
with
upper
middle
class
and.
B
N
Income
and
and
just
sustain
their
housing
over
time
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is,
then
what
do
you
do
if
somebody
grants,
and
then
they
run
out
of
the
money
to
pay
for
the
rent
and
the
services
which
is.
B
N
In
practice,
anyhow,
if
they
run
themselves
down
what
will
happen
to
them,
what
you
know
if
they
aren't
able
to
stay,
they
can't.
N
G
That
many
of
our
residents,
whether
they
have
the
retirement
funds
to
fund
this
or
not
a
lot
of
them,
willing
their
own
homes
in
places
like
Arlington
and
they
move
out
they're
able
to
sell
their
homes
and
take
a
large
Nest
Egg
of
the
equity
of
their
homes,
which
allows
them
to
afford
living
here
at
the
care
that
they
need,
which
we
do
find
for
a
lot
of
seniors.
In
terms
of
your
question,
which
is
a
good
one.
G
Into
Sunrise,
our
team
meets
with
them
and
their
family
members
and
reviews
their
financial
picture
to
make
sure
they
understand
what
the
costs
are,
what
they're
likely
to
be
over
time
and
what
that
full
picture
looks
like
to
ensure
that
they
have
the
pay
more
because,
as
we
all
understand,
it's
a
not
inexpensive
proposition.
So
that's
step
one
step
two.
Once
someone
moves
in,
of
course,
their
finances
are
monitored
by
their
family
and
by
our
team
members
to
make
sure
exactly
you're
talking
about
doesn't
happen
where.
G
Their
Full
Nest
Egg
and
aren't
able
to
afford
it
anymore
once
they
get
to
a
point
where
perhaps
things
are
starting
to
get
tight,
there's
a
number
of
Solutions.
We
have
number
one.
We
have
a
variety
of
different
units,
sizes
and
types,
so
someone
runs
a
two
bedroom.
Maybe
their
desktop
is
decreasing.
They
move
to
a
one
bedroom,
even
a
studio,
to
try
to
reduce
costs.
In
addition,
it
sunrises
we
have
quite
a
bit
of
sharing
of
units
between
both
family
members
and
Friends.
There's
a
two-bedroom
unit.
G
G
Initial
planning
and
the
and
the
tracking
over
time,
it's
extremely
rare,
that
we
have
residents
that
run
out
of
funds,
and
you
very
very
extreme
case
that
happens
with
them.
Of
course,
work
with
the
resident
and
their
family
to
find
somewhere
they
could
afford,
which
is
typically
an
assisted
living
location
that
accepts
Medicaid
and
obviously,
if
those
aren't
available
residents
are
welcome
to
stay
until
we're
able
to
find
someone
somewhere.
B
N
The
reason
that
I
want
to
emphasize
this
site
plan
review
and
whatever
else
is
that
we're
not
advancing
the
community
benefit
and
the
right
under
the
Americans,
with
Disabilities
Act,
for
each
person
to
be
able
to
Remain
the
community,
whether
whether
whatever
their
disability
or
function
limitation,
is
because
they're
a
senior,
because
it's
obvious
that
some
of
the
people
in
in
this
housing,
you
know
wanting
family
rental
is,
are
going
to
have
the
physical
ancestry
disabilities
as
well
and
and
so
I
I'm
concerned
that
we're
not
advancing
the
need
for
affordable
units
that
are
accessible,
particularly
if
you
select
off-site
units
or
which
has
been
done
in
Crystal,
City,
Indiana,
Carol
and
and
or
if
you,
if
you
choose
just
to
the
investment
in
the
fund
and
that
neighborhood
over
there.
N
A
L
A
The
the
first
thing
we
heard
when
we
kind
of
wrote
this
project
out
to
today,
so
so
we
we
hear
you
loud
and
clear,
I
appreciate
it
feedback
I.
G
Think
part
of
what
makes
this
difficult
is
the
lack
of
a
policy
in
the
county
right
and
we
have
the
affordable
housing
master
plan.
It
mentions
kind
of
it's
got
one
reference
to
seniors
in
the
whole
thing.
I
know
that
there's
some
work
on
other,
maybe
some
other
reviews
of
this
of
senior
housing,
a
senior
affordable
housing,
but
it
isn't
something
that
we
see
any
kind
of
guidance
and
the
policies
or.
A
In
the
zoning
ordinance
or
except
for
the
affordable
housing,
Baseline
contribution,
I
mean
most
of
the
time
when
we
see
a
project
come
forward,
that's
providing
affordable
units,
let's
say
keep
in
mind
that
they
are
getting
bonus
density
for
it
right.
It's
pumping
up
that
density.
Here,
it's
a
much
more
modest
sized
project,
Beyond,
just
the
issues
I
mentioned,
with
the
cost
of
the
care
too.
So
all
that
to
say
you
know
we
do
hear
you.
We
are
continuing
to
work
on
this.
There
are
challenges
both
in
terms
of
making
the
economics
make
sense.
G
C
Thank
you,
chair
I,
have
a
question
and
then
a
general
comment.
First
question
is
you
know:
affordability
is
near
and
dear
to
my
heart,
I've
been
on
board
of
vapa
for
for
two
times
now,
but
this
is
a
question
for
Sunrise
and
then
also
just
for
staff.
C
Is
there
any
precedent
for
on-site
affordability
in
a
market
rate
product
like
this
I
have
not
come
across
it
in
my
professional
career,
so
just
from
a
feasibility
standpoint,
the
concept
of
delivering
affordability
in
in
a
in
a
high
Acuity
setting
like
this
I'm
just
curious
to
stop
my
question.
C
Secondly,
I'd
just
like
to
to
thank
you
for
your
thoughtful
design
here,
you
know
I
think
this
is
a
a
needed
asset
for
our
community
and
you
know
hopefully,
and
not
anytime
soon,
but
this
is
a
this
is
a
place
that
I
would
consider
putting
my
parents
in
and
just
on
behalf
of
Economic
Development
commission
I.
Think
I
I
would
just
like
to
encourage
the
community
to
stretch
how
we
think
about
Community
benefits
in
this
current
economic
environment.
C
This
is
a
very
challenging
environment
where
we
are
going
to
see
a
lot
of
value.
Diminition
in
our
commercial
Corridor,
specifically
in
office,
and
so
we
are
going
to
need
developments
like
this
that
are
going
to
be
Revenue
positive
from
a
tax-based
perspective
and
also
generate
jobs.
So
that's
a
general
comment
and
just
offer
that
for
consideration.
G
Yeah,
thank
you
for
your
comments
and
to
your
question
to
answer
briefly.
Yes,
there
is
precedent.
Yes,
it
is
something
that
Sunrise
has
done
before,
although
it
continues
to
be
extremely
challenging
proposition,
but
something
we're
continuing
to
study
it's
something
that
we
are
certainly
are
studying
for
Arlington,
but
continues
to
be
challenging
for
a
number
of
the
reasons
that
that
catches
laid
out
here.
A
Great,
thank
you.
It's
that
ebony
I
would
just
say
you
know
with
you
know
this
project
itself,
since
it
isn't
pursuing
any
bonus
density.
The
kind
of
affordable
housing
policy
that
applies
you
know
is
that
base
contribution
that
the
applicant
engagement.
A
L
Thanks
I'm
gonna
keep
pulling
on
this
thread
of
affordable
housing.
So,
and
maybe
this
is
a
question
for
our
staff
so
because
this
project
isn't
really
just
housing,
it's
it's
Assisted
Living,
so
it's
housing,
plus
services.
L
If,
if
the
applicant
here
were
to
pursue
on-site
units,
how
how
would
that
sort?
What
would
that
sort
of
look
like
as
far
as
a
a
contribution?
Because
it's
not
just
it's
not
just
the
units
themselves,
I'm
thinking
and
my
real
question
is
sort
of
this
like
from
a
value
perspective.
What
would
we
be
looking
at
if
Sunrise
said
you
know
what
we
will
do
an
on-site
unit
or
two
or
whatever
versus
you
know,
even
smaller
projects
we
might,
we
might
get
two
or
three
or
four
units?
L
B
A
A
requirement
of
one
on-site,
affordable
unit
or
one
off-site
Whatever
unit,
that's
just
kind
of
out
of
math
shakes
out
so
I
guess
you
know
in
simple
terms.
If
they
were
doing
on-site,
it
would
be
one
unit
and,
like
you
mentioned,
because
it's
not
just
an
affordable
rent.
It's
also
the
services
that
go
into
it,
obviously
that
one
unit
and
that
contribution
would
be
more
than
the
typical
affordable
unit.
A
P
A
Requirement
bathukin
does
have
the
option
to
provide
that
one
unit
on
site.
G
A
L
A
Whack,
when
you're
looking
at
the
comparison
of
the
dollars
versus
the
value
and
the
cost
of
a
an
affordable
senior
unit
versus
an
affordable
apartment
building,
that's
just
not
like.
L
Yeah,
exactly
if
I
could
just
respond
to
that
briefly
Leo,
what
I'm
sort
of
getting
at
here
for
folks
to
think
about
and
I
I
really
appreciate.
All
the
comments
and
I
align
myself
with
the
concerns
about
affordability
and
especially
affordability
for
seniors,
is
a
dire
need
as
I
think,
as
we've
all
kind
of
acknowledged
here.
L
I
think
the
way
that
I'm
sort
of
thinking
about
this
is
you
know
we
we
have
these
affordability
tools,
but
we
also
have
a
lot
of
limitations
and
what
is
going
to
be
the
best
way
for
us
to
sort
of
achieve
our
goals
and
I.
Think
I
would
contrast
this
with
some
I
would
say
more
standard
site
plans
where
there
is,
you
know,
an
ability
to
get
on
site
versus
a
contribution,
and
you
know
we
do
have
Arlington
County
staff
analysis
about
the
value
of
those
on-site
units
and
they're.
L
We
might
not
be
getting
as
much
value
with
the
cash
contribution
versus
the
on-site
units.
That
being
said,
I
think
because
this
is
Assisted
Living,
it's
distinguishable.
It's
it's
a
different
scenario,
and
so
maybe
you
know
the
concerns
are
are
very
well
founded
here,
but
it
might
be.
It
may
be
better
in
the
County's
interest
here
to
have
that
cash,
but
to
consider
consider
a
continuous
conversation
thanks,
sorry
for
the
interruption,
no.
B
E
E
It's
just
missing
from
the
comp
plan
how
to
really
deal
with
this,
so
we're
sort
of
talking
past
each
other
on
this
I
mean
there's
something
we
really
are
going
to
have
to
Grapple
with
and
have
our
our
Housing
Department
of
the
comprehensive
plan
specifically
address
senior
and
seniors,
who
have
specific
needs
for
assisted
living
memory,
care
that
sort
of
thing
overall,
the
county
is
way
way
fewer
units
than
the
overall
demand,
even
with
this
project
and
the
other
Sunrise
project,
we're
still
going
to
still
get
way
behind
what
the
demand
is
for
such
units
in
this
County
and
that's
at
every
level,
not
just
the
wealthy.
E
It's
it's
at
every
income
level,
we're
terribly
under
serving
this
community,
and
you
know
this
project
is
needed
project,
but
the
the
Gap
is
there
for
ability
or
a
huge
number
of
seniors
and
we're
just
not
grabbing
as
as
an
entity.
We're
not
grappling
with
that,
because
it
is
not
in
the
comp
plan
and
that's
something
we
should
probably
be
raising
a
PC
for
recommending.
E
This
is
needed,
but
one
unit,
even
if
they
have
one
affordable
unit,
that's
totally
not
going
to
do
much
of
anything
right.
You
know
we
have
to
be
thinking
different
ways
and
that's
why
it
has
to
be
looked
at
the
conference.
But
how
do
we?
How
do
we
approach
this?
How
do
we
find
ways
to
make
this
type
of
housing
available
to
our
senior
population
anyway,
thank.
N
The
the
on
the
issue
of
affordable,
Assisted,
Living
and
senior
housing
that
type
of
housing
where
Services
just
like
area
found
is,
is
a
it
is
something
that's
rare
and,
and
yet
there
are
so
many
seniors
who
need
it
and
can't
afford
it
and
can't
stay
in
this
community
I,
even
though
they've
been
here
for
you
know,
ages
or
decades,
and
and
so
that
in
advice
in
the
face
of
the
affordable
housing
master
plan.
N
My
view
everybody,
but
but
my
concern
is
this:
I
know
that
assisted
living
and
and
and
Pullman
community-based
services
and
such
have
some
funding
sources.
I
also
know
that
there
are
funding
sources
through
HUD
that
pay
for
affordable
units
and
or
construction
of
these
kinds
of
projects.
N
The
only
available.
The
only
available
thing
that
that
we're
incentivizing
is
you
know,
commercial
of
Assisted
Living
projects
that
are
profit
making
and
people
are
people
of
modest,
moderate
and
and
low
incomes
are,
are
not
going
to
have
the
opportunity
to
be
in
that
kind
of
environment
as
they
Age
and
and
if
you
run
out
of
money,
you
may
have
money.
When
you
go
in
you,
you
know
if
you're
too
bad,
that's
it
and
I
realized.
That's
a
longer
conversation.
N
N
If,
if
it's
all
contributions
to
the
AF
I
think
the
AF
is
wonderful.
Except
are
we
going
to
designate
that
that
money
should
be
used
for
affordable
senior
or
Assisted
Living
housing,
or
is
it
going
to
be
used
not
to
support
the
senior
community
or
the
disability
Community,
but
rather
everyone
else
and
send
the
rest
of
the
disability
community
and
the
senior
community
off
to
wherever
in
public
and
Virginia,
where
there
might
be
a
sport.
A
F
So
that's
a
Believer
this,
but
I
believe
this
was
the
Boston
Macy
sprc.
When
we
finally
went
through
the
Planning
Commission,
there
were
three
of
us
I
believe
that
abstained
on
that
before
I
went
to
the
county
board
for
this
very
issue.
B
F
And
he
basically
said
to
the
applicant:
it
was
never
the
intent
of
the
county
to
just
easily
do
the
cash
contribution.
We
are
looking
for
more
housing,
so
one
unit
is
a
step
forward
versus
no
unit
and
the
more
that
we
have
anything
coming
up.
If
we
say
well,
one
unit
doesn't
mean
anything.
The
next
one
comes.
B
P
Thank
you
so
I've
been
listening
to
the
conversation
and
I
I'm,
the
one
I'm
glad
we're
having
it,
because
I
think
ultimately,
what's
key
here
is
that
we
are
looking
for
more
Creative
Solutions.
We
know
that
there's
a
concern,
especially
with
affordable
housing
and
with
an
aging
population,
and
this
is
thinking
creatively
about
what
we
can
do
as
a
County
to
address
some
of
that
need
I
think
is
where
the
conversation
has
to
go
and
so
I'm
pleased
we're
going
in
that
direction.
P
I
certainly
support
exploring
this
further
and
I
hope.
It
is
something
that
is
determined
to
be
workable,
because
I
think,
if
we're
able
to
provide
on-site
units
with
the
care,
included
and
understanding
that
is
a
different
sort
of
commodity
than
when
developers
make
a
cash
contribution
period.
I
think
it's
important
to
move
in
that
direction
and
potentially
set
a
standard
for
future
projects
to
to
advance
this
even
further.
P
A
You
Sarah
all
right,
I'm
gonna
start
tying.
This
subject
up,
go
to
Community
public
section.
B
A
One
thing
is,
we
did
get
an
email
from
commissioner
Stockwell
who
is
not
able
to
be
here
tonight,
and
so
this
is
a
little
out
of
order,
but
he
was
at
a
legitimate
other
meeting,
so
I'm
going
to
share
his
email
really
quickly.
A
B
A
A
I
Heard,
the
committee
call
in
for
a
strategy
to
be
emphasize
the
parking
lot
and
it
appears
to
have
the
same
configuration
extra
trees,
while
welcome
would
be
better
served
if
they
were
resident.
Oriented
I
think
you
mean
sort
of
you
know
where
people
can
enjoy
them
or
sit
on
around
them.
Also
as
to
the
bird
friendly
glass
request,
the
applicant
seem
to
saying
it's
not
needed.
We
had
this
conversation
before,
but
I'm
just
highlighting
it
I
think
the
committee
might
question
the
applicant's
assumptions.
A
A
You
know
parking
shade
and
heat
sink
issues
is
good,
so.
A
It
is
a
sustainability
issue.
I
am
a
little
out
of
order,
so
yes
you're
right
to
call
me
out
on
that.
I
probably
should
have
done
this
a
little
earlier,
but
with
that
I
think
I
am
done
with
my
with
our
agenda
here.
Yeah.
I
A
B
A
D
Okay,
just
a
couple
of
comments
for
Sunrise
I,
like
your
new
illustrations,
but
it
looked
to
me
like
the
shingles
were
really
dark
and
as
far
as
I
know,
energy
star
shingles
are
much
lighter,
so
I
hope
the
intention
is
to
have
energy
star
shingles
on
the
building,
and
it's
just
that
the
illustrations
are
colorful
and
decorative,
but
not
accurate.
D
My
second
comment
is
for
the
county
and
it's
about
the
street
divider.
If
I'm
coming
from
Columbia,
Pike
and
I
want
to
drop
somebody
off
I
do
not
want
to
make
a
u-turn
on
7th
Street
and
if
I've
met
somebody
and
I'm
coming
out
from
the
port,
crochet
and
I
want
to
go
towards
Route
50
I,
don't
want
to
have
to
turn
right
and
make
a
u-turn
at
7th
Street.
D
It
seems
to
me
that
there's
good
line
of
lines
of
sight
there
so
that
you
could
be
able
to
make
both
a
left
and
a
right
coming
out
of
the
building
in
safety
and
that
that's
much
better
than
u-turns,
so
I
hope
you
will
reconsider
having
the
divider
prevent
people
getting
across
the
street
and
then
my
third
comment.
It
was
about
moving
vans
and
someone
asked
about
them,
but
I
couldn't
hear
the
reply.
D
So,
when
I
look
at
7th
Street
turning
into
the
facility
to
try
and
back
in
under
your
loading
dock,
it
doesn't
look
to
me
like
it's
adequate
for
a
large
moving
van
and
even
though
your
residents
won't
have
a
lot
of
furniture.
That
doesn't
mean
that
a
moving
van
won't
have
five
sets
of
furniture
in
it,
I
mean
you
can't
control
the
size
of
the
moving
van
that
comes
in.
So
it
would
be
lovely
to
see
a
an
illustration
of
a
moving
van
easily
getting
in
and
out
of
that
facility.
Thanks.
So
very
much.
A
G
Two
comments
so
I.
It
might
be
hard
for
me
to
bring
it
up
now,
but
it
was
hard
to
tell
in
the
illustration
there
is
actually
a
space
adjacent
to
the
Loading
Dockery
pull
in
and
then
you
back
up
into
the
space.
We
do
have
an
illustration
that
I
can.
That
proves
it
out
based
on
our
civil
engineering,
drawing
so
I
think
if
I
can
show
you
that
drawing
you
would
you
feel
more
comfortable?
What
you're
happy
to
do
regarding
the
shingles
I,
absolutely
agree
with
you.
A
Thank
you
all
right
on
to
our
next
public
comment.
Dr
Byrne.
J
Thank
you,
I
would
I
was
only
able
to
attend
the
last.
The
first
meetings
of
the
sprc
on
this
subject
is
in
Conflict,
so
I'll
be
saying
thing
I
probably
should
have
said.
Then
the
landscape
plan
for
this
project
contains
many
deficiencies.
These
include
number
one.
The
submissions
conceptual
landscape
plan
does
not
contain
any
lists
of
shrubs,
perennials
and
down
covers
this
prevents
the
public
from
reviewing
the
list
before
the
Planning
Commission
on
the
County
Board.
J
Considering
approving
your
site
plan,
the
final
type,
let's
make
it
to
play,
contain
many
unarrel
plants
that
the
the
County's
review
or
may
not
pick
up.
It's
important
to
do
this.
To
have
this
I
think
before
the
public
hearings.
The
applicant
needs
to
submit
those
lists
immediately
before
those
commissions
of
the
County
Board
meet
the
impermeable
Surf
2,
the
Imperial
surface
parking
lots
will
create
storm
water,
runoff
lacked
by
affiliate
and
greatly
reduce
the
space
available
for
trees
and
plantings.
J
J
This
is
the
only
plant
that
feeds
Monte
Carnivals
that
grows
well
in
Arlington's
natural
areas,
most
site
plans,
Atlantic
plants-
do
not
have
this.
It's
rarely
planted.
I
will
probably
be
adding
lead
at
the
landscape
architecture
that
discusses
this.
But
the
absence
of
a
planting
Bliss,
which
this
which
this
applicant
is
just
never
perceived
this
this
particular
landscape
architect,
never
provides
it
other
ones
such
as
Studio
39,
do
provide.
This
is
simply
a
landscape
architect
that
does
not
is
not
interested
in
informing
the
public
about
his
plans
in
a
timely
manner.
J
It's
a
major
deficiency
in
this
particular
landscape
architect,
which
is
so
anyway.
Those
are
my
comments.
Please
consider
what
they're
going
to
have
their
Planning
Commission.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
Dr
Byrne,
okay,
I.
Think
with
that,
no
more
public
speakers.
Let's
do
a
quick,
wrap-up
comments.
This
is
the
less
sprc,
so
we
have
about
10
minutes.
Let's
say
to
wrap
this
up.
So
if
you
could
any
final
thoughts
and
wrap
up
comments.
N
Yeah
I
just
want
to
refer
back
to
my
comments
regarding
affordable
housing
as
as
particularly
tinger
and
living,
and
mentioned
that
the
Cali
already
has
a
bottle.
The
model
is
in
a
public
assisted
living
facility,
Mary,
Marshall
and
so
I.
Don't
know
why
we
couldn't
be
able
to
come
up
with
plans
that
would
and
and
I
I
would
encourage
the
African
into
the
faith
may
be
to
offer
the.
B
E
Yeah
yeah
I
made
my
comments
before
I.
Do
appreciate
the
changes
since
the
beginning
of
changing
the
color
palette.
Actually
is
quite
nice.
It's
the
local
bolts
Invasion.
E
Thank
you
for
that,
and
the
modifications
to
the
additional
trees
are
very,
very
welcome.
Thank
you.
E
F
H
B
I
F
N
Okay,
one
sentence:
thank
you
for
meeting
tonight
on
this,
the
anniversary,
the
24th
anniversary
of
the
United
States
Supreme,
Court
decision
in
Olmstead,
the
LC
and
ew
and
Al,
which
clarifies
and
mandates
and
affirms
the
right
of
people
with
disabilities,
including
seniors
to
live
in
the
community
and
not
be
forced
into
nursing
homes
and
other
institutions.
Thank.
A
You
for
being
great
thank
you
all
right.
I'm
gonna
go
Eric
you're.
L
On
very
briefly,
thank
you
Leah
for
chairing
these
meetings
just
want
to
extend
my
appreciation
to
the
applicant
for
all
the
changes
they've
made
it
in
response
to
the
feedback.
I
think
it's
a
wonderful
project.
I
really
appreciate
Doris's
comments.
It's
always
good
to
hear
from
Doris
I
appreciate
the
conversation
about
affordability
feels
like
there's
two
conversations.
We
want
to
continue
in
the
related
one
of
which
is,
you
know
these
on-site
units
versus
cash
contributions
and
then
relatedly.
L
You
know
how
can
we
use
the
community
further
incentivize,
affordable
housing
for
seniors
thanks.
A
Great
I
will
anybody
that's
online?
Please
put
your
hand
up
if
you
want
to
do
closing
statements.
Kevin
you're
on.
C
Yeah
thanks
I
just
wanted
to
applaud
the
the
applicant's
efforts
here.
I
think
this
is
a
well-designed
project.
Thank
you
for
being
responsive
to
to
the
community's
requests
and
and
on
the
affordability
issue.
It
does
sound
like
this
is
much
bigger
than
this
one
project.
C
I
think
on
the
on
the
first
meeting,
I
heard
that
the
applicant
stated
that
this
is
the
first
senior
housing
project.
That's
being
developed
in
Arlington
County
in
20
years.
Is
that
right
to.
G
Be
clear,
there
has
not
been
a
new
project
built
in
20
years.
Artists
did
have
a
project
approved
in
North
Arlington,
a.
C
There
are
very
few
affordable,
senior
housing
projects
that
are
being
developed
in
this
area,
and
that
speaks
to
the
market
forces
at
play
right
and
so,
as
we
think
about
Community
benefit
and
affordability,
which
again
is
is
one
of
the
most
important
issues
not
only
for
this
region,
but
the
you
know,
the
our
broader
country
and
at
large
I
think
we
just
need
to
be
measured
about
that
right,
because
this
is
a
very
expensive
service
to
be
delivered,
and
it's
an
issue
that
we
are
struggling
to
to
solve
as
a
country.
C
So
I
just
offer
that
as
a
backdrop,
we
need
to
solve
affordability.
We
need
to
deliver
more
affordable
units
for
seniors,
specifically
in
our
community,
but
this
is
the
first
project
that
we're
seeing
in
20
years
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
keep
that
in
mind.
Thank
you
great.
A
O
Hi,
thank
you
so
much.
A
O
B
B
G
I
I
think
my
architecture
team
is
probably
better
good
to
answer
it.
Our.
G
O
But
yeah
River
House
is
coming
and
they're
going
to
have
a
senior
housing
whole
building.
A
More
doctor,
are
you
done
yeah?
Thank
you
all
right
with
that.
I
will
close
this
meeting.
Thank
you,
staff
Kevin,
in
particular,
for
being
an
appointment
and
all
the
support
staff.
Thank
you
for
the
applicant
for
all
the
time
that
you
spent
listening
to
us
and
responding
to
us
and
working
with
us
and
then.
Finally,
thank
you
for
all
the
Commissioners
and.