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To
the
February
27th
site
plan
review
committees,
sub
group
meeting
for
the
Wells
Fargo
Verizon
site,
we
will
be
holding
a
hybrid
public
meeting
which
enables
remote
electronic
participation
as
legally
authorized
by
the
code
of
Virginia
for
the
planning
commission's
electronic
meeting
policy
adopted
July
7
2022.
members
of
the
sprc
subgroup
for
Wells
Fargo
Verizon
are
participating
both
here
in
person
and
virtually
through
electronic
names.
B
A
Can
I
have
whoever's
on
virtually
just
to
identify
themselves
if
you
are
on
the
roster.
A
Just
if
you're
on
the
roster
do
we
have
anybody?
Well,
you
know
we'll
come
back
to
that,
never
mind
we'll
come
back
to
that.
It'll
be
easier
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
orient
everyone
to
our
hybrid
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to
cover
a
few
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how
tonight's
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A
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Freedom
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Information
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requirements.
So
let's
go
around
the
room.
Just
so
I
can
Orient
myself
to
who
is
here
for
our
meeting
devashi
Patel
Planning
Commission
do.
F
A
At
the
end,
we
cannot
okay
and
then
do
we
have
anybody
here
from
transportation?
A
N
K
D
A
And
then
Ashton
Heights.
O
A
And
finally,
we
have
Boston
Virginia
here.
Do
we
have
anybody
else
that
is
not
on
our
restaurant
but
wants
to
be
recognized
as
being
present?
A
K
Well,
I,
don't
have
a
presentation,
I
hope
everybody
had
seen
the
video
from
staff
and
from
the
developer
speaking
about
architecture.
So
just
reiterating
really
quickly.
K
Some
of
the
few
things
we
we
thought
might
be
good
topics
to
discuss,
to
get
Prime
people
ground
floor,
design,
how
the
bank
interacts
with
the
plaza
building
entrances,
which
are
a
sector
plan,
zoning
emergency
department
and
how
the
applicant
is
complying
with
that
concepts
for
Verizon
building,
screening
and
Improvement,
and
maybe,
finally,
last
but
not
least,
which
will
spill
over
into
the
next
sprc.
When
we
get
more
into
transportation,
we
can
discuss
the
appropriateness
of
the
drive-through.
K
J
K
A
C
Yeah
on
the
ground
floor
design,
a
couple
things
I
noticed
from
first
iterations
book
was
just
posted.
It
looks
like
the
ATM
Urban
disappear.
B
C
When
the
class
is
to
activate
the
screen,
I
thought
having
an
ATM
on
that
wall
really
had
the
same
function
of
creating
history
and
what
people
want
to
walk
by
there
and
see
if
it's
a
destination,
that,
with
good
impact,
came
to
streets,
I've
been
happy
to
see
that
and
I
wasn't
as
concerned
about
the
75
percent,
given
that
that
was
there.
If
that's
not
going
to
be
the
one
that
Embraces,
that
goes
back
a
little
more
plastic.
So
that
was
my
impression.
Otherwise,
I
didn't
have
any
concerns
the
adding
the
door.
D
C
I
Lot,
most
of
which
is,
is
Verizon's
and
his
high
transmission
fiber
optic
cable
that
is
going
into
the
switching
station.
So.
D
D
I
D
J
D
You're
exactly
yeah,
okay,
so
and
then,
and
then
I
had
a
question
about
just
the
overall
Arrangements
of
the
ground
floor
and
obviously
to
have
a
variety
of
retail
Pockets
here
and
there
according
to
what
what
is
a
good
workout
is.
D
I
F
I
Order
to
do
so
and
leave
them
open
and
operating
in
their
existing
bank
branch.
We
have
to
construct
the
new
bank
branch
as
a
phase,
one
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
site
and
then,
once
once
that
new
bank
branch
is
open,
they
can
close
down
and
move
out
of
the
existing
bank
branch
and
free
up
the
rest
of
the
site.
So
it.
I
J
D
Questions
because
those
things
in
both
of
those
specific
things
seem
to
be
the
underlying
parameters
to
cover
a
lot
of
things,
you
have
to
decide
so,
okay.
Well,
then
I'll
just
say
that
I
really
like
the
design
of
the
building
of
attention,
but
I
just
I,
just
feel
on
getting
the
right
arrangement.
D
B
F
Question
is
there
a
in
the
4.1
submission,
it
doesn't
seem
like
there's
a
a
bike
room
at
grade.
It's
the
Bike
Room
is
P1
and
Below
right.
Is
there
an
opportunity
to
put
one
in
grade
I.
I
Mean
we
can
look
into
that.
There
are
a
lot
of
competing
uses
on
the
ground
floor
here
when
you've
got
retail
office
and
multi-family
all
competing
for
that
ground,
floor
space
who
have
their
own
vertical
circulation
needs
and
and
Lobby
needs,
so
it
it
will
be
a
challenge,
I
think
and
then
also
to
meet
the
loading
and
parking
needs
as
well.
So
that
will
be
challenging,
but
we
can
look
at
that.
F
And
then,
how
close
are
you
guys
trying
or
phrases
how
far
away
are
you
from
the
75
penetration
on
the
first
floor
at
this.
I
K
F
Yeah,
it's
a
lot
more
when
we
come
back
around
okay.
Thank.
I
K
Interior
programming
could
Stefano
show
the
the
current
on
the
it's
from
the
4.1,
where
they
show
the
the
full
length.
K
N
K
K
H
B
F
I
mean
it
still
seems
like
a
fair
amount
of
like
an
opportunity
for
more
transparency,
but
I
guess
we'll
look
to
see
your
revenge
submission
and
on
the
bike
parking.
F
Yeah,
you
just
want
to
limit
the
number
of
doors
you
have
to
go
through
when
you
have
a
bike.
So
if
it
has
to
go
below
grade,
then
the
shortest
path
to
get
there
should
be
what
you
should
do
and
also
encourage
you
to
think
about
bike
parking
for
not
just
your
standard
bike,
but
cargo
bikes,
e-bikes
like
like
The
Limited
things
that
we're
going
to
have
in
the
oven
all
right.
J
And
Bong
is
on
the
line
with
lien,
Associates
and
bond.
If
you
want
to
address
the
sidewalk
on
Washington
Boulevard,
so.
Q
Washington
Boulevard
sidewalk
is
starting
from
the
West
to
Corner.
We
are
maintaining
20
feet.
Q
25
continuous
between
two
major
crosswalk
handicap
ramps.
P
I
can't
think
of
one
way
in
which
you
could
at
least
activate
it
by
putting
it
back
there,
which
is
open
nine
to
five
and
it
was
a
smarter
place
for
the
bank,
is
on
Washington
Boulevard,
where
you've
got
the
street
appearance.
People
know
the
banks,
they
drive
by
people
like
this,
and
that's
probably
also
the
best
best
place
for
an
ATM
machine,
because
there's
a
fair
amount
of
visibility.
P
P
I
North
correct
retail
B
is
targeted
for
a
food
and
beverage
use
that
would
have
the
ability
to
take
to
take
it
on
Washington
Boulevard
there
that's
about
4
300
square
feet.
The
large
Block
in
the
center
is
also
retail.
Space,
exact
user
TBD,
but
could
be
daycare
could
be
a
fitness
user
could
be
a
smaller
format,
grocer,
potentially
or
food
and
beverage.
I
H
P
Not
a
very
active
you
can
see
that
inside
the
building
might
be
better,
so
at
least
here
I
can
see
where
the
loading
dock
is
now
it's
on
the
back.
Okay,
that
was
that
we
couldn't
figure
out
what
happened
so
far.
The
parking
garage
is
also
in
the
back
correct
and
that's
for
both
the
office
building
and
the
presidential
correct.
L
Okay,
so
this
is
my
very
first
sprc
ever
so
I'm
just.
G
A
lot
of
the
things
I
was
going
to
bring
up,
have
already
been
brought
up
about
the
bike
room
and
the
the
elevation
of
the
Urban
Street
along
the
park.
It
tastes
better,
but
it
could
be
even
better
and
I
appreciate
what
you've
done
there
at
the
corner
at
to
Washington
and
where
it
turns
into
the
Wilson.
G
G
It
wasn't
well
designed,
unfortunately,
because
it's
brand
new
but
I
think
there's
things
we
can
do,
but
we'll
see
that
for
next
time
and
I
assume
we're
just
talking
about
the
new
building,
we're
not
talking
about
Verizon
at
ground
level.
At.
B
G
What
I
would
Envision
in
terms
of
improvement
s?
It's
quite
Bland,
I
mean
I.
Guess
you
could?
Yes,
you
can
paint
it,
but
it's
the
the
metal
screening
just
sort
of
exact.
You
know,
exasperates,
that
that
sort
of
Foxy
industrial
building,
I
think
that
could
use
a
lot
of
improvement.
Well,
I
think
this
building
back
to
ground
floor
is
wonderful.
It's
it's
a
very
it's.
B
H
I
We'll
take
a
look
at
that.
We
have
looked
at
options
to
add
green
elements
to
that
North
facing
Verizon
facade
and
there
are
competing
priorities
for
that
streetscape
we
right
now
are
have
we
have
a
continuous
tree
panel
along
the
curb
line
within
the
acquired,
clear,
walking
space
closer
to
the
building
which,
given
the
limited
amount
of
space,
there
thought
was
a
better
approach
for
having
a
green
element
combined
with
potentially
some
painted.
H
I
don't
mean
to
imply
that
a
climbing
vine
is
the
answer.
Just
usually
the
statement
of
more
Greening,
especially
the
cons
I,
did
wasn't
aware
of
the
constraint
of
about
not
being
able
to
have
tree
fits
in
some
of
the
areas
that
when
I
look
at
it
I'm
like
oh
well,
it's
really
paved
there's
a
lot
of
there's
there's
a
lot
of
not
green
I
mean
we
have
concerns
about.
You
know
heat
islands
and
things
like
that
in
this
Corridor,
so
we
like
working
okay.
N
Oh
yeah
I
would
be
remiss
representing
the
bicycle
commission
if
I
did
not
also
say
bike
room.
Please
I'd
love
it
at
the
ground
floor.
If
it's
gone
down,
the
garage
it
needs
to
be
accessible,
I
would
agree.
The
Verizon
Center
treatment
is
not
that
attractive.
You
can
see
from
the
architectural
renderings
here
they
specifically
don't
let
you
see
it.
N
You
know
you're
doing
some
good
things.
It's
definitely
an
improvement,
but
I
I
would
agree
pushing
to
try
to
make
it
softer
make
it
Greener
would
be
fantastic
and
I
agree.
I
know
the
Wells
Fargo
bottleneck
you've
got,
but
that
is
the
wrong
place
for
a
bank.
You
know
if
Wells
Fargo
moves
twice
in
a
two-year
period
in
30
years.
They
are
going
to
forget
that,
but
we'll
still
have
a
bank
on
the
plaza
in
30
years,
so
I
think
that
should
be
considered
a
little
bit
more.
That's
all
thanks.
O
And
yeah
thank
you.
I'm
trying
to
use
both
my
computer,
which,
which
what
wasn't
working
having
an
echo
I'll,
could
I
hold
and
speak
a
little
bit
later.
I'll
try
to
try
to
get
rid
of
the
echo.
C
C
It's
a
good
Civic
building
the
70s
Edition.
That's
the
problem,
one
that
Great
Wall
I,
agree
that
green.
That
up,
you
know,
trellises,
that
something
grows
up
and
arborist
landscape
architect
would
be
able
to
keep
the
plants
that
would
survive
there
do
well
because
I'm
not
sure
painting
it.
The
girls
really
does
anything.
C
C
So
you
know
there's
a
lot
you
can
do
with
it,
because
it
has
great
Bones,
the
70s
ruling
that
you
just
want
to
screen
as
much
as
you
can,
because
it's
just
nothing
around
the
corner
on
the
proposed
new
Street
I
saw
that
we
want
to
have
a
evidence
for
all
whatever
around
the
parking
lot.
The
design
I
didn't
realize
until
today
that
it's
only
about
42
inches
high.
That
really
doesn't
do
it.
It's
on
a
screening.
C
O
Yeah
sure
I'm
glad
glad
you've
talked
I'd
like
to
you
know.
First
of
all,
we
like
the
building
design.
Also
we're
excited
about
the
the
new
building
construction.
O
We're
concern
is
probably
focused
mostly
on
Irving
Street
and
on
on
Verizon
itself,
I.
Second,
those
you
know
who
are
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
activate
and
Tran
make
it
transparent
where
it
fronts
on
the
park,
but
I
also
have
some
concern
about
the
shielding,
particularly
as
it
goes
all
the
way
along
Irving
Street,
where
Verizon
currently
is
sitting
is
there
anything
that
can
be
done
to
I
I
would
support
the
statements
earlier
by
Clarendon
Courthouse
about
the
greenery
and
making
it
more
pedestrian
friendly.
O
I
also
was
curious.
What
the
sidewalk
width
is
there.
D
Okay,
yeah
I
would
actually
like
to.
D
It
really
would
benefit
from
being
organic
in
whatever
way
you
could
make
that
happen.
We
have.
If
you
look
at
the
context
of
the
cycle
we
have
a
park,
we
don't
know
how
big
it's
going
to
be,
whether
the
fire
station
will
stay
there
or
whether
it's
going
to
be
a
bigger
part.
Just
down
the
street.
We've
got
the
Triangular
park
across
we've
got
to
the
Urban
Street
a
little
little
Bartlett
area
of.
D
D
You
don't
if
you've
got
issues
with
the
infrastructure,
underneath
you
don't
have
to
go
with
the
canopy
trees.
You
can
do
a
combination
of
of
other
story,
trees
and
grasses,
and
that
kind
of
thing,
if
you've
got
if
you've
got
some
kind
of
screening
going
up.
Of
course,
there
are
some
lines
that
are
quite
tolerant,
height
and
things
that
have
another
device.
D
Well,
if
it,
if
you
need
to
brick
wall,
to
become
basically
a
raised
planter
or
some
of
these
other
kinds
of
things,
that's
fine!
You
don't
have
to
count
on
it
or
fill
it
to
the
size
of
actually
screening
visually
it
just
because
you
know
a
base
for
some
more
natural
features.
So,
and
the
last
thing
just
on
the
ground
level
is
the
extent
that
is
possible.
D
It
is
very
advantageous
to
connect
the
tree
pits
under
the
sidewalk
with
the
lattice
structures
that
are
available
now,
to
allow
all
the
trees
to
interconnect
and
to
share
a
broader
area
of
resources
in
vastly
expands
what
they
have
access
to,
and
they
can
actually,
depending
on
how
much
you
believe
in
science
they
can
actually
help
each
other.
So
I
would
really
strongly
go
for
that
and,
frankly,
even
in
the
in
the
Planters
and
Pleasant,
you
could
do
that.
It
could
actually
be
good.
You
might
even
get
it
nice.
You
know.
O
P
O
Our
streets
speed
right
in
there,
and
particularly
people
from
Kenmore
to
you,
know
basically
down
to
Irving
their
Metro
from.
P
What's
The
Walking
situation
you're
going
to
be
in
terms
of
a
sense
of
safety
after
at
rush
hour
and
later,
especially
during
the
winter
months,
when
there,
when
it
was
dark,
it
looks
like
a
fairly
Bleak
area
to
be
walking
through
Washington
Boulevard
down
to
10th
Street,
and
wouldn't
it
make
sense
to
activate
building
as
much
as
possible
so
that
people
feel
safer.
I
N
H
N
Yeah
and
it's
I
believe
residential
all
the
way
down
the
rest
of
that
block.
I
Knowing
what
was
happening
on
the
other
other
side
of
the
Irving
Street
Plaza,
and
not
yet
knowing
what
DPR,
how
the
design
of
that
plus
it's
going
to
evolve,
we
attempted
to
create
a
circulation
space
understanding
that
there
was
a
lot
of
foot
traffic
coming
from
the
Metro
into
adjacent
neighborhood,
so
that
that's
kind
of
in
understanding
the
limitations
of
the
below
grade
infrastructure.
That's
kind
of
why
we
created
the
LA
of
above
grade
planners
with
a
walking
space
and
adjacent
bank
which
would
free
up.
I
P
But
there
are
minimum
minimal
doors
and
whatever
people
coming
and
going
on,
Irving
Street
you've
got
the
I
think
it's
an
apartment,
building
where
the
the
old
Choice
Motors
is
and
that's
the
entrance
is
at
the
corner
of
I
guess
tense,
whatever
it
is,
and
but
it's
otherwise
Dead
all
alone,
and
is
there
actually
over?
The
hotel
is
going
much
activity
on
or
on
the
early
side
is
it
is
it
windows?
Are
there
entrances
there
or
the
entrance
is
basically
almost
in
Walmart.
I
A
Okay,
just
sticking
to
ground
floor
design,
any
Mr
welcome,
yeah.
L
Just
kind
of
piggybacking
gentleman
comment
about
people
with
disability
and
residents
going
into
the
apartment.
Complex
I
know
we're
just
on
ground
level
and
safety
that
I
would
agree.
That
would
be
pretty
important
down
there,
especially
at
night,
because
you
know
how
that
area
is
at
night
at
three
times
so
yeah.
Where
are
the
adventures.
I
L
If
residents
have
like
a
pass
key,
why
can't
they
just
come
to
the
blue
through
the
office
space,
to
get
to
the
residential
and,
in
addition
to
I
guess,
that's
the
new,
intense
Road
or
Irving
Street,
because
if
everything's
getting
fogged
in
with
their
phone
or
whatever
you
know
safety
and
then
also
people
with
disabilities,
they
have
to
walk
all
the
way
around
to
the
yellow.
I
just
feel
like
that's
just
yeah
like
it.
A
I
It
is
a
gently
sloping
site
from
top
left
to
bottom
right,
so
there
there
are
great
changes
within
the
first
floor
that
would
make
transitioning
from
the
retail
to
the
directly
to
the
residential
challenging
Edition.
You
have
to
cross
the
back
of
house
spaces
loading
and
trash
that
we
don't
often
encourage
people
to.
I
As
part
of
their
daily
experience
in
the
building,
in
addition,
the
office,
if
you
see
the
on
the
bottom
right
of
the
blue
spaces,
an
open
stair
that
takes
you
up
to
the
second
floor
of
the
office.
So
it's
that's
meant
to
be
a
controlled
access
space
during
business
hours,
and
it's
not
meant
for
residents
to
be
accessing
on
a
regular
basis.
I
Again
this.
This
has
a
lot
to
do
with
the
number
of
competing
uses
on
the
ground
floor
and
the
attempt
to
maximize
viable
retail,
Square
footages,
as
well
as
the
bank,
as
well
as
meet
our
commercial
requirements
for
the
site.
So
it's
something
we
can
continue
to
look
at.
There
is
a
stair
entrance
on
the
bottom
left
that,
while
not
accessible,
would
be
a
secondary
means
for
residents
to
get
up
into
the
building
with
with
the
credential
yeah.
Q
Q
A
And
then
the
other
other
thing
I
think
that
what
Jim
and
I
were
kind
of
just
talking
about
right
here,
there's
also
the
bomb
just
that
it's
like
a
drop
off
in
that
space
too,
so
that
in
some
ways
that
I
mean
it
doesn't
answer
all
the
questions
and
all
the
concerns
you've
raised.
But
just
I
wanted
to
raise
your
attention
to
that.
Yeah.
L
Like
there's
just
been
so
many
discussions
about
kind
of
live,
work
and
pieces
of
office,
spaces
and
residential,
and
if
you
know
you
I,
understand
activating
everything
exactly
if
there's
only
a
certain
spot
where
residents
using
and
there's
so
many
other
opportunities
to
go,
that
could
be
an
option
and
also
safety
is
as
well
I
believe
that
too
we
all
know.
This
is
what
this
area
looks
like
at
certain
times,
so
that
10th
Road.
A
P
K
K
Would
on
a
six
foot
clear,
that's
a
bare
minimum
for
this
area,
so
but
I
just
it
sounds
like
the
developer
understands
that
right
totally.
G
K
H
No
I
was
just
seconding
Collier's
point
about
the
sidewalks
on
the
on
the
non-principal
air
streets
are
are
only
as
wide
as
they
have
to
be.
We'd
love
to
see
more.
P
N
B
A
Okay,
so
I
think
we've
also
done
a
lot
with
the
in
this
last
discussion
round.
We
did
a
lot
with
concepts
for
the
Verizon
building,
screening
and
Improvement.
If
there's
any
additional
comments
just
on
that
topic,
maybe
you
can
just
raise
your
hand
to
the
bus
going
all
the
way
around
all
right.
It's
like.
P
E
Can
you
call
that
up
on
the
screen,
can
you
call
call
with
the
man
or
the
Horizon
site,
it's
a
loading
dock
and
there
is
an
underground
storage.
P
I
So
we're
not
proposing
any
modifications
to
that
loading
dock.
It
I
believe,
has
a
fence
on
top
of
any
drop
off
now
so.
I
E
A
there's,
an
underground
storage
tank
for
the
generators
and
it
slopes
back
to
it's
a
dual
function,
thing.
P
E
A
C
Get
Pleasant
because
that
has
to
go
through
a
community
process
and
to
have
a
design
I'm
deductive.
So
if
you
guys
do
anything
in
particular
with
it,
because
that
really
should
be
done
in
coordination
with
that
larger
process.
However,
that
comes
out
that
I'll
be
happy
with
so
I'm,
not
looking
for
you
to
have
a
particular
design
right
now
that
that
portion
of
the
building.
C
D
F
P
I
P
P
Of
other
active
use
and
which
could
actually
blow
out
another
Park
a
little
bit
and
that
will
be
probably
active
use
after
dark
as
well,
especially
in
relationship
ones.
In
the
year.
B
G
If
it's
on
the
master,
Transportation
plan,
people
are
still
gonna
bike
breed
here
and
we
need
to
sort
of
consider
where
they
would
go
so
they're
not
in
way
of
something
so,
whether
they're
over
here
on
the
West
and
not
by
the
bay
or
through
the
park
or
on
the
other
side.
We
just
need
to
sort
of
visualize
where
that's.
A
Cool
and
then
the
Aaron
anything
on
interaction
with
the
Plaza.
N
Yeah
I
mean
I,
think
the
Wells
Fargo
site
being
there
is
my
biggest
complaint
about
it.
I
agree
the
what
the
county
comes
up
with
needs
to
incorporate
bicycle
and
scooter
use
and
people,
hopefully
hanging
out
there
tables
and
chairs,
or
something
to
give
a
little
respite
in
that
area.
That's
all
thank.
A
You
and
check.
O
Yeah
my
concerns
are,
are
similar,
I
think
they've
been
largely
voiced,
but
it
it
does.
Look
like
there's
sort
of
a
barrier
between
the
the
building
and
the
plaza
I.
Don't
know
if
that's
just
from
the
rendering.
But
if
people
are
walking
along
the
sidewalk
there
can
they
walk
directly
into
the
park
or
are
they?
Are
they
blocked
by
the
a
raised
area
for
for
trees?
O
F
So
in
the
public
spaces
master
plan
at
the
back
of
that
document,
a
lot
of
good
Design
Concepts
about
privately
owned,
publicly
accessible,
open,
Suites
and
so
I
know.
This
is
going
to
be
a
public
process,
but
I
do
some
thinking
about
how
we
communicate
that
this
is
a
a
shared
space,
a
publicly
accessible
space.
We
have
a
lot
of
places
in
the
county
that
don't
read
as
public
spaces.
F
They
read
as
private
spaces
and
so
and
then
are
planning
staff,
so
Chris
and
others
I,
don't
think
we
have
some
on
the
line
tonight.
Our
architectural
team
could
help
with
that
kind
of
thought
process
as
well.
I
A
C
F
A
N
O
Yeah
I
I,
like
the
entrance
being
added
on
Irving
and
I,
think
if
it
looked
inviting,
that
would
be
very
nice.
C
C
J
C
Could
people
walk
up
to
them
because
it
looks
a
little
bit
dicey
to
have
that?
Actually,
because,
right
now,
the
ATM
on
the
side
is
actually
on
Washington
Boulevard.
You
want
to
use
the
ATM
and
have
to
park
in
your
lot
because
I
use
disclosure,
that's
my
thing.
So
I
use
it
all
the
time.
I
walk,
probably
two-thirds
of
the
time
to
use
it
and
drive
1
30.,
but
to
use
that
ATM
you
can
easily
walk
up
to
it.
C
C
And
that's
been
there
for
ages
and
we
use
it
all
the
time
and
people
walk
up
to
that
too,
but
that's
been
there,
so
just
one
block
away
that
street
functions
exactly
the
same
as
this
food's
going
to
do
and
that's
the
loading
docks
it
has
the
drive
up
post
Hogs.
Actually
this
is
improved
because
it's
way
wider
cycle
than
that
happens,
Milwaukee
is
not
the
most
Pleasant
on
that
other
block.
C
So
I'm
good
at
that,
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
I've
softened
a
bit
on
this-
that's
it!
This
is
the
most
walkable
place
in
the
county.
Just
about
and
drive
up
for.
Anything
just
really
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense
to
me.
C
C
Have
seen
like
10
years
when
I
used
to
go
to
Chicago,
regularly
around
business
and
being
in
the
loop
right
in
the
loop
one
of
the
huge
Office
Buildings
as
a
driver
back
right
under
the
elm?
It's
bizarre.
So
there
is
precedent
for
this
sort
of
thing
in
a
highly
walk
of
the
transit
oriented
environment,
which
seemed
way
denser
than
anything,
but
it
still
doesn't
make
a
break.
D
D
The
whole
West
half
in
the
building,
but
my
main
issue
about
the
the
drive-through.
D
And
maybe
this
isn't
this
the
best
time
to
raise
it?
It
brings
in
the
whole
issue
of
of
the
whole
traffic
pattern
of
of
10th,
both
from
Wilson
I
guess
it's
still
10
to
the
tracks
and
then
Irving
and
then
over
to
Hudson,
because
they
all
appear
to
me
two
way
but
they've
all
got
loading
docks
they've
all
got
semi-trailers
in
there.
They
evolved,
presumably
have
some
activation
on
the
ground
level,
where
you're
going
to
have
people
walking
around
and
I.
N
D
One
way
and
get
a
flow
that
makes
more
sense
in
terms
of
all
the
different
people
that
have
to
use
it
because,
right
now
it
looked
to
me
and
I'm,
not
an
expert
like
Chris
ladder
and
the
other.
Just
it
looks
to
me
like
we're
it's
just
setting
up
to
make
a
quagmire
out
of
this
whole
network
of
Pathways
that
are
going
to
be
used
by
by
all
different
kinds
of
times
appearance.
So
I
have
a
concern
about
that.
So
you're
recommend.
D
F
Yeah,
so
a
couple
questions
so
how
many
cars
can
queue
in
the
ATM
kind
of
pull
off
land.
J
R
Yeah
Matt
Perez
here
there's
three
spaces
for
space
for
three
cars
to
queue
off
the
10th
Road.
R
R
Right
yeah,
the
the
third
car
would
partially
block
the
loading.
Excuse
me.
F
Habit:
that's
a
that's
a
problem,
that's
a
problem!
How
many,
how
many
times
would
you
estimate
that
the
bigger
Bay
which
it
looks
like
the
bigger
Bay
will
be
filled?
How
frequently
will
that
occur
in
hero
submission.
I
We
would
have
a
dock
manager
on
staff
who
would
be
able
to
coordinate
deliveries,
but
it
is
likely
to
be
most
heavily
used
by
the
the
corner
retail
space,
and
so
that's
probably
deliveries
three
or
four
times
a
week.
I
would
guess
okay
daily
once
a
day
at
most,
once
a
day
during
the
week,
yeah.
F
Something
like
that
yeah
and
then
how
many?
What's
the
traffic
light
like
to
the
ATM?
What
are
you
estimating
the
average
daily
trip
so.
I
Our
Lisa
camera
who's
with
Wells
Fargo
is
on
the
line
and
they
they
have
pulled
daily
counts
of
the
at
the
existing
ATM
configuration.
But.
K
F
Helpful
then,
to
just
get
Apples
to
Apples
numbers
of
java
ATMs,
so
we
have
something
compared
to
but
okay
I
would
say.
Given
what
I've
just
learned.
This
seems
like
more
conflict
and
that
you're
I
know
this
is
a
private
road
or
whatever,
but
that
that
this
road
could
break
down
pretty
regularly
and
that
that
might
mean
that
that
vehicle,
that's
or
that
truck
that's
pulled
up
to
unload,
gets
parked
somewhere
else
and
then
causes
cascading
issues.
F
So
yeah
I'm,
not
a
fan
of
this
and
I,
would
also
say
that
this
is
a
this
area.
Is
a
96
walk
score?
We
shouldn't
be
building
or
drive
through.
F
And
Claritin
we're
carrying
it
down
elsewhere
along
the
corridor.
We
should
be
doing
it
here,
totally
won
the
ATM
and
the
walkable.
This
is
a
problem.
P
Island
correct
so
the
cars
that
are
coming
in
from
actually
I
guess
it
is.
P
P
You've
got
both
both
of
them
roughly,
where
the
entrance
is
it's
a
lot
coming
together
that.
S
P
P
A
I
wouldn't
make
a
Dipper,
but
anyway
go
ahead.
L
So
again,
residential
I
see
it
more
I.
Don't
an
ATM
would
be
better
on
Western
Boulevard
I
see
that
as
a
thing
like
a
ballet
spot
for
Ubers
unless
to
go
through
a
lot
faster
than
like
I
mean
I,
don't
know
a
lot
of
people
carry
cash
nowadays
and
getting
cash
and
everything's.
You
know
going
hash
lists,
so
I'm
gonna
be
touching
and
yeah
like.
L
If
there's
any
cars
that
whole
street-
and
we
know
certain
times,
this
era
gets
crazy
traffic
and
if
there's
three
cars
there
it
would,
it
would
be
crazy
and
then
again
a
resident
opening
there,
and
if
people
are
getting
dropped
off
they're
not
causing
traffic
on
the
other
roads,
because
there
is
an
indent
drop-off
resident
to
be
able
to
go
up
and
then
continue
on
the
way.
Instead
of
an
ATM
machine
camera.
L
G
Yeah
sort
of
following
up
on
prior
comments
about
sort
of
how
these
are
sort
of
going
away,
I'm
worried
if
this
comes
in
this
will
be
sort
of
the
magnet
bringing
undue
traffic
into
the
to
the
part
where
you
don't
want
traffic.
This
is
what
we're
trying
to
avoid
we're
trying
to
avoid
it
or
we're
trying
to
build
a
place.
That's
great
for
walking
Hiking
Game
around
Transit.
G
This
is
not
what
the
neighborhood
needs
and
also
again
it
takes
up
a
lot
of
space
that
could
be
a
lot.
Greener
I
mean
two
trees:
three
trees
on
that
South
that
entire
Southern
elevation.
N
Yeah
I'm,
not
not
that
young,
but
I,
would
agree
that
I
have
not
gone
to
an
ATM
in
a
couple
of
years.
I
just
don't
know
why
we
want
them
to
be
there
via
car
I.
Do
think
it's
something
we'll
laugh
at
if
it
goes
in
10
years
from
now.
If
you
want
to
put
it
in
there
put
it
on
the
Washington
Boulevard
side
for
pedestrians,
because
there's
a
ton
of
pedestrians
there
and
you
get
all
these
people
walking
by
coming
and
going
from
the
Metro.
If
it's
right
in
their
face,
they'll
stop.
N
If
it's
a
drive-through
they're
not
going
to
stop
I
agree
with
Collier,
we
don't
want
it
to
be
a
magnet
I,
don't
think
ATM
drive-throughs!
Are
that
valuable
that
that's
a
reason
for
us
to
draw
everybody
in?
Have
the
applicants
thought
about
underground?
N
You
think
about
the
Harris
Teeter
on
George
Mason,
underground,
curbside,
pickup,
fantastic
there.
It's
a
really
nice
well-lit,
safe
feeling
space
that
would
get
it
out
of
the
way
and
just
make
it
accept
accessible
figure
out
how
to
do
that
and
then
you
can
have
full
service.
You
can
have
the
tubes,
you
can
even
have
a
two-story
Wells
Fargo,
where
they
can.
Actually,
you
know
see
you
face
to
face.
If
that's
a
value
to
the
company,
that's
all.
Thanks
can.
H
O
Yeah
I've
also
I've
been
trying
to
concept
conceptualize
the
the
traffic
flow
there
and
I
I
assume
that
Irving
is
a
two-way
street,
but
it's
blocked
at
the
end.
Is
that
right,
someone
going
up
Irving
or
parking
on
Irving?
What
would
their
Outlet
be?
O
Would
they
be
doing
a
U-turn
and
going
back
out
on
Irving,
or
would
they
more
likely
being
also
using
the
same
route
on
10th
Road
and
it's
10th
Road
two
ways:
I
certainly
hope
not
I
mean
excuse
me
yeah
10th
road,
because
that's
whoa
I
would
think
you
go
up.
10Th,
possibly
use
that
as
an
exit
to
get
out
of
Irving
Street
without
having
to
do
the
U-turn
but
I.
Why
would
you
be
inviting
traffic
to
come
into
Irving
Street
there?
O
That's
that
makes
I,
don't
understand
that
at
all,
but
maybe
that's
a
different
set
that
goes
beyond
just
the
ATM
I
agree
with
the
other
comments
I've
heard
in
general,
I
I.
Don't
object
to
ATMs
I.
Think
they're
still
useful,
but
I
do
wonder
about
the
coordination
of
the
multiple
uses
and
the
traffic
flows
here.
That's
it.
A
All
my
check
to
the
ATM
that
way,
but
I
I
there's
several
drive
up
ATMs
on
Langston
Boulevard,
it's
a
very
different
Corridor
than
what
we're
talking
about
here
and
I.
Think
that's
the
reason
why
I
agree
with
what
Carl
you're
saying
here
is
that
you
know
in
that
space.
It
looks
and
feels
differently.
It
doesn't.
You
know,
there's
not
this
issue
around
queuing,
like
James,
has
has
brought
up
with
my
bank
in
particular,
which
is
truest
on
on
Langston.
A
You
could
have
like
15
cars
in
that
lane
and
that's
not
block
anybody
right.
It's
like
behind
the
building
and
there's
there's
no
problem,
but
here
if
we
have
more
than
two
in
a
space
and
now
we're
starting
to
block
something,
then
the
truck
might
get
if
it
could
be
a
domino
effect.
So
I
wonder
I
know
that
this
is
particularly
important
to
the
bank
and
I
wonder
if
there
are
other
iterations
that
we
could
be
thinking
about.
Given
the
comments
that
we
can
go
to
them.
S
A
J
J
S
Thank
thank
you
very
much.
First,
let
me
say
thank
you
for
having
consideration
of
the
design
that
our
developers
have
put
together.
We
are
proud
to
own
this
property
in
the
community
and
have
to
been
a
member
of
this
community
for
a
number
of
decades,
serving
you
all
in
our
current
location
and
join
you
in
wanting
to
activate
this
acre
of
land
in
such
a
prominent
area
going
forward,
we
we
do
see,
particularly
over
the
last
seven
several
years
with
covid.
T
S
It
continuous
use
for
this
I
do
want
to
address
that
both
the
design
that
you
are
seeing
and
some
of
the
former
designs
there
will
be
a
walk
up
at
either
a
vestibule
walk-up
ATM
or
a
through
the
wall
ATM
on
the
Washington
Boulevard
side.
That
will
be
there
to
support
the
area
around
all
of
the
restaurants
and
retails
on
the
weekends.
Any
of
us
who
have
lived
here
for
a
long
time
and
raised
young
adults
in
this
area,
foreign.
S
Know
that
there
is
quite
a
a
a
large
group
of
folks
in
this
area
on
weekend
weekend
nights.
Our
parking
lot
has
long
been
used
to
support
many
of
the
retailers
around
the
Metro.
Stop
in
this
area,
on
the
on
the
weekends
and
and
weeknights
and
I
guess,
that's
we
we
are,
you
know
again
privileged
to
work
with
everyone.
We
are
also
looking
to
our
neighbors,
who
are
also
developing
their
properties,
to
support
this
activity
of
the
Irving
Street
Plaza.
S
In
addition,
in
addition
to
the
bank
branch,
it
has
already
been
mentioned
that,
in
order
to
facilitate
continuous
operation
to
our
customers
in
this
market,
who
we
do
put
as
our
highest
priority
as
well
as
the
community,
we
do
not
want
to
disrupt
their
banking,
but
in
addition,
one
of
the
greatest
drivers
of
success
of
a
bank
branch
is
its
visibility,
and
this
major
intersection
is
the
place
for
a
bank
branch
to
be.
We
were
coming
to
the
community
and
that
was
a
vacant
retail
location.
S
C
Yeah,
if
now
that
we
know
that
it's
going
to
be
an
ATM
on
Washington
Boulevard,
which
is
a
great
place,
it
should
be
where
it
is
right
now,
so
that's
great,
but
set
the
drive
through
convert
that
that
lead
by
their
into
three
angled
parking
spots.
People
just
jump
out,
use,
ATM
and
then
get
back
in
so.
L
Talking
about
people
that
drive
through
or
use
it
looking
at
the
other
levels
of
the
units
that
they're
going
from
Studio
to
like
two
bedrooms,
so
they're,
not
necessarily
gonna,
be
families
in
there
to
be
using
this
necessarily
drive-through,
like
probably
gonna
Park
their
car
residents
and
then
in
the
space.
It
not
drive
that
much
so
again.
Yes,
if
it's
a
quick
like
15
minute,
stop
sure,
but.
L
I,
look
young
but
I'm,
not
that
young,
but
I
saw
their
uses
TM
there
personally,
just
and
then
also
the
the
residence
is
going
to
be
living
there
we
park
in
their
car
and
that
show
Uber
Lyft.
B
P
K
P
I
In
the
other
direction
to
be
clear,
one
part
of
the
transaction
that
is
important
is
so
Wells
Fargo
owns
the
the
parcel.
Today
they
will
continue
to
own
the
land
under
their
and
their
bank
branch
facility,
so
they're
not
a
tenant.
They
they
will
remain
an
owner
and
long-term
owner
operator
of
that
facility.
A
Okay,
any
other
comments
about
the
the
configuration
of
the
bank
and
the
drive-through.
It's
no
pressure!
You
don't
have
to
have
yeah,
okay,
perfect,
fantastic,
okay,
listen!
So
anything
from
anyone
on
Aaron
or
Jack.
Did
you
guys
have
anything
else,
saying
no
hands
yeah.
E
Conference
I
didn't
go
over.
Why
we
put
it
up
there
or
anything
like
that?
The
reason
the
screen
is
there
is
for
sound
continuation
of
Our
Generation.
This
building
was
built,
the
property
line
was
not
at
all.
E
Property
of
mine
was
a
long
way
away
27
feet
when
you
put
the
property
line
at
the
wall.
The
sound
does
not
mean
code
for
current
at
the
current
code
level,
when
you
move
the
proper
line
closer
to
the
building
needed
to
do
something
to
the
generators
to
either
muffle
the
sound
at
the
generator
or
at
the
wall.
We
also
needed
to
you
didn't
have
it,
but
we
also
have
a
top
to
it.
E
So
the
apartment
house
cannot
look
down
into
our
generator
compound
and
see
the
tops
of
the
generator
the
check
the
prints
that
are
going
to
be
charged.
They
don't
want
to
look
down.
E
Or
hear
one,
so
that
is
the
reason
for
the
screen.
It
is
it's
not
just
a
visual
screen.
It
is
a
soundproof
screen
on
the
other
for
wrapping
it
around
for
the
rest
of
the
building.
They
are
on
day
one
and
day
two
day,
two
is
for
future
net
generator
needs
in
the
building.
E
If
the
Omni
for
power
increases
the
building,
because
equipment's
changed
and
those
kind
of
things
very
hard
to
see
where
telecommunications
is
going
today,
I
started
in
this
business
35
36
years
ago,
and
we
still
had
dial
phones
and
stepper
equipment
in
the
rural
areas.
That's
all
gone,
it's
all
gone
to
fiber
new
fiber
does
take
as
we
as
the
it
changes
the
equipment
type
changes,
but
it
still
needs
space
and
Power
on
the
roof.
B
T
E
Long
wall
right
there-
that
is,
you,
don't
know
it,
but
you
can't
see
it
there
where
that
car
is
in
the
center
picture,
that
is
a
cable
fault.
I've
had
the
Arlington
County
people
through
it
the
reason
there's,
no
greens
things
there
is:
they
won't
grow.
It's
about
24
inches,
underneath
that
there's
a
solid
concrete
top
and
that's:
what's
there
there's
dirt
on
top
of
concrete,
it
doesn't
work.
F
Helpful
for
you
to
walk
through
that,
so
some
things,
maybe
to
look
at
Crystal
City,
there's
a
fair
amount
of
murals
that
they've
done
on
kind
of
concrete
above
grade.
If
you
can't
do
green,
there's
no
reason
it
just
needs
to
be
a
blank.
Boring
facade
except
for
Jim,
doesn't
have
to
use
it
I.
You
know
our
sign
ordinance,
get
updated.
I!
Think
murals
are
now
allowed
to
get
checked
that,
but
there's
maybe
some
things
to
be
there
and.
T
F
Which
has
already
been
kind
of
mentioned
here,
but
people
don't
like
to
walk
from
safeness
to
sameness.
And
so,
if
you
don't
have
any
porosity
or
anything.
F
J
F
K
The
historic
preservation
office
and
suggested
that
Verizon
and
the
developer
go
to
a
DRC.
If
you
guys
could
at
some
point
and
get
some
ideas
from
them
on
improved,
improve
the
one
story
Edition.
What
was
that
the
historic
preservation
office,
I
I,
think
we've
reached
out
to
them
yeah
yeah
with
their
design,
Review
Committee,
to
get
some
ideas
about
what
you
could
do.
Also
with
token
awesome,
yeah.
A
Okay,
next
steps
next
meeting
April
17th
is
our
next
scheduled
sprc
for
this
project
and
I
saw
Mr
Byrne
come
on
Mr
burn.
You
have
public,
you
want
to
do
public
comments.
Yeah,
yes,.
K
And
we
have
we
yeah
okay,.
A
T
T
Virginia
school
metro
station
to
the
top
of
the
Olmsted
building
during
the
when
you,
when
you're,
making
the
updated
sector
plan.
This
is
all
measured
and
said
if
this
building
is
110
feet
that
won't
affect
the
that
fuel
and
measures
are
taken.
Now,
this
is
how
you're
28
feet
that
may
block
The
View.
You
just
don't
go
against
what
the
film
is
already
addressed
in
this
sector
plan.
T
This
would
not
anticipate
at
all
because-
and
you
have
to
check
the
view
from
the
along
from
the
Virginia
Square
Metro
station,
also
from
the
base
of
that
building,
see
if
you
can
see
the
top
of
the
other
building
number
one,
the
the
the
don't
refer
to
the
plaza
that
so-called
Plaza
as
a
plaza,
it's
a
green
Street.
It
was
called
that
it
was
made
that
by
it,
but
but
they
introduced
the
cloud
and
circle
they
did
an
improvement
to
it.
T
They
created
what
is
called
a
Green
Street,
it's
mostly
a
park.
That's
where
everyone
wants
to
the
green
thing,
not
a
plaza
and
stop
talking
about
it.
That
way,
it
should
be
a
second
plan,
but
they
never
know
where
it
wanted
to
be
that
way.
Okay,
the
answer
to
the
side
itself
no
open
space
at
all-
and
this
is
really
bad
for,
especially
with
one
bonus,
dancing
and
all
those
other
stuff.
Perhaps
the
worst
part.
Is
this
landscape
we'll
discuss
this
in
the
next
meeting?
T
The
landscape
plan
does
not
provide
species
and
location
of
any
plants
except
the
trees.
Well,
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
discuss
this
at
that
when
you
just
got
some
mad
landscape
planning
to
and
say
which
the
trees
don't
belong,
you
know
which
plants
are
invasive,
which
ones
will
support
pollinators.
We
need
this
and
I
think
it's
very
important
that
you
demand
that
the
the
applicant
provide
that
list
of
of
of
species
of
plants
such
as
the
shrubs
the
low
plants,
the
vegetation
it
has,
that
should
have
milkweed
for
the
monarch,
butterflies.
T
So
all
that's
absent,
and
next
week
month,
old
against
census,
and-
and
you
know
it
just
won't
be
there-
we
need
this,
that's
the
main
thing,
but
again
that
hide
that
building.
That
was
certainly
that
was
not
supposed
to
be
any
more
than
880
feet
that
was
discussed
at
the
sector
flat
when
you
drink,
when
maybe
after
an
update,
that's
important.
Please
address
it.
A
All
right,
these
meetings
take
a
lot
of
time
and
energy
stuff
and
everybody.