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A
B
A
E
Years
now
I
would
say
Fairfax.
C
A
A
And
there's
John
and
Lauren
I
think:
hey
John,
how
you
doing
hey
Jackie?
How
are
you
doing.
D
F
A
G
A
You
can
start
the
I
see
you
started
the
recording
and
the
thank
you
Angela
appreciate
it
all
right
meeting
called
to
order.
Is
there
any
public
comment
before
we
move
to
the
agenda.
A
No
hearing,
no
public
comment,
I
think
Takis
will
join
us
later.
I,
don't
see
him
on
the
on
the
list
yet
here
so
we'll
we'll
move
down
to
the
and
my
apologies
I'm
automatically
thinking
critical
infrastructure,
it's
actually
critical
Improvement
plan.
So
apologies
it's
critical,
Improvement
plan.
There
were
some
good
dialogue
back
and
forth.
Andrea
Gary
had
some
some
good
comments.
He'll
join
us
soon
and
I
know.
Taucus
was
particularly
interested
in
feedback
on
that.
So
any
I'll
open
the
floor.
Comments
on
the
on
the
CIP.
B
A
A
No
I
think
the
I
think
this.
Is
it
the
yes
Capital?
Yes,
it
is
capital
Improvement,
the
I
think
next
week.
Frank
is
this
right
next
week
is
when
there's
there's
a
public
meeting.
E
E
A
Okay
and
I
talkus
was
asking
if
there
are
some
comments
that
we
we
could
provide
to
him.
So
if
there
are
I,
saw
some
good
conversation
prior
to
meeting
any
Gary.
You
had
some
comments,
I
think
in
response
to
Andrea's
Andrea's
comments.
So
anything
we
want
to
make
sure
we
have
that
were
were
providing
to
taucus
would
be
helpful.
A
H
Yeah
I
was
very
happy
to
see
the
the
cloud
transition
and
migration
being
funded.
It
indicated
that
that
was
a
new
program
for
this
CIP
and
I
know
that
there's
been
discussion
of
it
in
the
past.
It
also
made
reference
of
the
County's
Cloud
smart
strategy
and
I
haven't
been
able
to
find
the
cloud
start
strategy
and
I,
don't
believe,
we've
been
briefed
on
it.
H
So
I
was
wondering
if
we
could
ask
Richard
to
organize
a
briefing
on
the
cloud
start:
smart
strategy,
it's
kind
of
hard
to
provide
comment
on
the
resource
allocation
in
the
capital
Improvement
plan.
If
we
don't
understand
the
strategy,
that's
driving
it,
but
I
do
think.
The
cloud
transition
is
incredibly
important
for
the
county,
so
I
want
to
support
it.
I
just
prefer.
If
we
had
a
little
bit
more
information
on
it.
D
A
Okay,
great
thanks.
Thank
you
any
other
any
Gary.
Did
you
want
to
make
a
comment
in
Andrea
if
you
are
able
I
don't
want
to
if,
if
you're.
A
Good,
okay,
all
right
Gary!
You
want
to
fill
you
wanna
share
your
comments.
It's
not!
Everybody
was
able
to
to
read
what
you
put.
C
Sure,
just
a
nutshell:
version
I
did
notice
that
there
was
no
mention
of
the
radio
broadcast
component
of
emergency
communications,
and
this
is
where
our
local
radio
station
wera
fits
into
the
picture.
C
All
of
this
involves
Capital
expenditures,
whether
it's
for
backup
equipment,
auxiliary
or
ancillary
equipment
to
get
access
to
the
studio
facilities,
periodic
testing
to
make
sure
that
they
have
the
infrastructure
in
place,
because
so
many
times
in
my
days
when
I
was
at
the
FCC,
you
heard
of
instances,
for
example
during
hurricanes
cell
towers
fail,
and
when
the
commission
would
inquire
say
what
happened
with
your
backup
power
supplies,
they
said.
Well,
we
didn't
test
them
for
three
years
or
six
months
ago,
so
testing
having
the
equivalent
the
equipment,
reliability
resiliency.
C
C
E
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
thank
Gary
for
bringing
that
up.
It
is
a
topic
that
we've
dealt
with
in
the
past
and
actually
we
did.
There
is
a
formal
memorandum
of
understanding
between
the
county
and
aim
on
the
use
of
wera
and
emergency
situations.
I
think
we
did
finally
receive
it.
I
mean
a
few
years
ago
now,
I
think
Mary.
Wasn't
it.
A
E
And
that's
probably
one
of
those
things
that
if
if
it
can
I
mean
I'm,
not
sure
if
that
should
be
made
public
or
not,
that
may
be,
you
know
that's
something
that
may
not.
You
know
be
a
good
idea
to
put
on
the
website.
I
don't
know,
but
that's
something
but
rehab
we've
received
it
at
some
point.
So
our
knowledge
there's
been
no
changes
and
I
love,
Jack
or
Richards.
Can
let
us
know
if
there's
any
changes
to
that,
but.
A
And
do
you
feel
that
the
the
CIP
has
enough
in
it
to
support
all
the
items
that
Gary
was
was
mentioning
I?
Guess,
that's
the
that's
the
key
question
Jack
or
Richard.
Do
you
have
any
like
to
shed
on
that
I.
D
Do
not
have
anything
on
that
pacific
topic
because
on
our
side
of
the
house
that
would
fall
into
Emergency
Management,
not
into
IP
so
more
question.
You
compose
it
in
writing,
but
also
more
question
for
the
epack
group
and
their
relationship
with
Department
of
Public
Safety
and
emergency
communications.
A
And
perfect
timing
welcome
Sharon
the
chair
of
vpac.
Thank
you
Sharon!
We
were
just
discussing
in
emergencies
about
wera
and
you
came
on
just
then
so
well
done
perfect
entrance.
A
Yep,
okay,
the
basically
we'll
get
back
to
you,
but
the
question
was
that
Gary
was
Raising
was
for
resiliency
purposes
as
we're
looking
at
the
CIP.
Is
there
enough
support
there,
given
the
County's
Reliance
on
weara,
so
and
Richard
was
saying
really
it's
not
in
the
DTs
Lane,
but
it's
in
the
emergency
Lane.
So
we'll
come
back
to
you
hold
steady
and
Jackie's
up
next
great.
J
G
Just
to
follow
up,
maybe
if
I
could
General
history
on
this
yeah
that
it's
it
occupied
a
critical
link.
We
found
during
9
11
that
there's
a
thirst
for
information
as
we
guys
what
happened
here
in
Arlington
and
that's
the
reason
it
was
a
focus
on
wera,
providing
that
radio
contact
information.
You
can
turn
on
CNN.
Oh.
G
So
what
I
was
saying
this
is:
it
certainly
has
prevalence
Gary.
What
you're
saying
it's
very
important.
We
put
that
mou
in
place.
For
that
reason,
the
challenge
has
been
frankly.
G
You
had
a
great
radio
broadcast
hour
in
the
morning
news
hour,
I
can't
think
of
so
I'm
trying
to
remember
the
gentleman's
name
who
did
it,
but
he
was
fantastic
and
he
would
he
really
facilitated
the
communication
of
information
and
such
there's
been
a
change
and
I
think
what's
happened
in
order
to
make
any
of
these
Emergency
Management
things
work,
there
has
to
be
practiced
resiliency.
G
In
other
words,
it's
not
you
just
can't
wait
to
the
event
and
then
say:
okay,
let's
turn
it
on
see
if
it
works
and
to
be
frank,
I,
don't
think,
there's
been
that,
since
the
change
in
the
broadcast
schedule
over
there
and
I
think
that's
something
I
think
we
ought
to
make
an
effort
to
to
rekindle
life,
because
again,
there's
always
going
to
be
an
opportunity.
You
don't
have
communications
and
having
a
a
radio
network
like
that
they
can
reach
many
people
and
frankly,
I
used
to
enjoy
and
I
can't.
G
C
Th,
yes,
it
was
Yulie,
he
did.
G
C
G
And
we
would
talk
about
a
lot
of
things
over
that
station
to
meet
the
public,
so
we
missed
that,
but
I
I
think.
If
there's
a
message
in
you
know,
rich
is
a
coordinator
to
link
to
the
WRA
aam
team
over
there
I
think
we
should
revisit
that.
I
know:
Aaron
Aaron
middle
is
in
a
new
role,
as
you
know
now,
as.
G
There,
it's
just
a
matter
of
you
know,
have
periodic
tests
and
changing
trying
it
out
making
sure
it
works.
You
know
belt
rings
and
a
bell
ring
at
any
point
in
time
and
who
would
we
go
to
who's
the
gold
person?
We
could
go
to
and
I'm
concerned
frankly
that
we
don't
have
that
right
now,
so
I
think
we
have
to
have
that
developed
and
practice.
F
Yes,
so
what
I
was
going
to
say
was-
and
we
also
had
an
a
FCC
waiver
approval
to
boost
signal
on
an
AM
station
for
quite
a
while
I,
don't
know
if
that
has
run
out.
I
haven't
heard
anything
about
it,
but
I
think
we
should
ask
that
question.
At
the
same
time,
1700
it
was
am
1700
and
that
one
we
did
promote
quite
a
bit.
F
I
mean
it
was
on
magnetic
cards
that
we
handed
out
for
people's
fridges
and
all
sorts
of
things,
and
it
did
do
periodic
testing,
but
but
it
and
we
did
get,
have
to
get
the
FCC.
It
was
Emergency
Management
that
got
the
FCC
approval
to
boost
the
signal
under
as
an
information
Channel
during
emergency.
So
let's
ask
both
of
those
questions.
A
Okay,
all
right
so
the
Boost
as
well
great.
Thank
you,
Bill
you're
next.
K
Yes,
hi
hi
question
for
Jack,
and
it's
it's
basically
this:
how
do
the
various
CIP
items,
both
individually
and
in
totality
relate
or
or
how
can
we
tell
how
they
relate
or
match
to
DTS,
Workforce
and
Staffing
levels,
and
the
talent
required
to
manage
all
these
various
projects?
K
A
G
Yeah
yeah,
that's
a
good
question.
A
lot
of
the
things
we
put
into
the
CIP
are
based
upon
what
we
see
that
the
technology
World
shifting
to
the
transitioning
and
there's
a
study
done
just
recently
by
National
Association
of
counties
in
in
a
combination
of
National
Association
of
cities.
Looking
at
asking
cios
and
I.T
leaders
across
the
country.
What
do
they
see?
Is
that
the
most
prevalent
change
it
had
and
what
it
was
was
this
it
was
about
60
percent
of
them
said
they
see.
G
The
technology
landscape
is
changing
under
us
right
in
front
of
our
eyes
and
where
we're
going
and
what
we
did
before
is
changing,
and
we
have
to
recognize
that
now.
How
do
we
do
that?
With
the
money
we
have
and
the
resources
we
have?
So
some
basic
things
are
happening
we
would
buy,
we
would
build.
That
was
what
an
I.T
shop
did
right
so
and
now
we
recognize
we
probably
have
to
buy
more
than
we
build.
We
used
to
own
yeah
because
that's
what
we
did
so
your
own
data
settings.
G
We
don't
serve
the
farms
and
we
owned
the
applications
and
now
we're
realizing
that
probably
we
need
to
license
and
use
them
as
needed
and
recognize
that
you
know
it's
better
to
do
that
as
an
economic
model
than
what
we've
been
doing
and
then
last
week
we
looked
at
the
perspective
of
we
manage
everything
we
could
manage
it
best
right
now,
we're
recognizing
that
there
were
folks
out
there
who
can
do
a
better
job
of
managing
networks
and
servers
and
services
than
we
can
and
as
we
move
to
a
world
where
software
is
as
a
service
as
they
call
it,
it
abstracts
the
level
of
support
we
need
to
provide
as
a
county
and
and
devoting
that
to
somebody
else
to
provide.
G
That
involves
a
level
of
trust
in
that
the
people
are
going
to
have
the
maturity
to
make
that
happen
and
I,
don't,
as
I
listened
a
few
minutes
ago
to
John
Burke
I
believe
John
Burke
was
talking
about
it.
Cloudy
is
very
mature
now
and
it's
it's
the
way,
the
future.
So
what
you
see
in
the
CIP
is
really
rationalizing
our
technology
investments
in
terms
of
what
we
see
the
future
and
what's
going
to
happen,
and
it's
also
looking
for
a
number
of
one
thing.
G
That's
true
is
everybody
says
there
are
a
number
of
emerging
Trends
taking
place
that
could
be
very
disruptive
in
terms
of
Technology,
the
clouds
one
which
is
an
enabler
Internet
of
Things,
artificial
intelligence.
G
Quantum
Computing,
you
know
two
years
ago,
Quantum
Computing
was
just
an
aspiration,
and
now
it's
going
to
happen.
I
mean
the
bike.
Administration
is
putting
money
into
it
big
time,
and
you
know
they
work
instead
of
bits,
we're
talking
about
Cubans.
Well,
you
can
do
things
amazingly
fast.
They
know.
That's
gonna
have
amazing
impact
on
the
financial
industry
and
the
health
industry
and
the
such,
but
it's
going
to
have
the
same
impact
on
government,
and
so
what
we
try
to
do
with
the
CIT
is
frankly
guess.
G
You
know,
as
I
talk
to
the
manager
about
this.
Anybody
who
thinks
that
we
can
predict
technology
in
a
plan
for
10
years
from
now
need
to
be
putting
the
money
other
places
and
that's
where
I
am
on
this
side.
So
what
we're
doing
is,
if
you
look
at
the
CIP
we're
accommodating
the
refreshment
as
we
had
of
our
servers
and
networks
and
data
centers
and
such
in
the
same
mindset.
G
We
did
say
two
years
ago
three
years
ago,
but
we
have
this
Insight,
that's
going
to
change
and
what
I'm
going
to
be
telling
the
board
is
just
that.
Is
that
there's
a
change
coming
and
they're
predicting?
You
know
we
talked
about
Moore's
Law,
then
we
went
to
Nevin's
law
now
we're
at
a
point
where
we're
saying
that
the
exponential
growth
is
taking
place
and
you're
going
to
see
10
years
of
Technology
growth
in
the
next
18
to
24
months
and
people
say
when
I
say
that
they
say.
G
Are
you
crazy,
I
think
it
Bears
listening
to
them,
and
we
need
to
understand
what
that
means.
So
saying
all
that
back
to
the
question
was
asked:
what
do
we
do
about
resources?
We're
going
to
have
to
understand
what
resources
we
need?
I
mean
you
just
can't
buy
things
and
expect
them
to
run
on
their
own.
You
gotta
have
the
necessary
resources
to
support
them.
So
the
idea
of
capitalizing
resources
out
of
the
Investments
we're
proposing,
is
something
that
we
understand
has
to
be
done.
Do
we
have
an
answer
yet?
G
No
do
we
have
a
road
map
that
can
say
we're
going
to
need
this
much
now
model
books
so,
but
we
do
know
that
it's
happening
and
it's
happening
at
a
rapid
pace
and
his
toys
are
doing
this.
G
You
know,
you're,
really
investing
in
a
con.
The
use
of
processes
that
are
going
to
require
consumption
of
resources
and
the
classes
are
going
to
fluctuate.
So
you've
got
to
control
that
so
there's
going
to
be
a
sort
of
a
center
of
excellence,
this
monitoring
and
managing
as
we
go
forward.
So
you
asked
a
simple
question
and
I
gave
you
a
long
answer,
but
no
it's
a
challenge.
It's
a
challenge
with
my
successes
are
going
to
have
to
face
going
forward.
A
K
A
Any
Frank
is
that
an
old
hand
or
a
new
hand.
E
That's
a
new
hand.
I
just
wanted
to
Circle
back
to
Jackie's
point
about
the
am
Travelers
Information
Station
on
1700.
Unfortunately,
it's
my
understanding
that
was
shut
down,
isn't
that
right,
jack.
G
G
E
It
does
work,
it
was
a
I
thought
it
was
a
a
nice
low-cost
solution.
You
know,
so
it's
unfortunate
that
you
know
that
it
was
turned
off,
but
I
don't
know
if
there's
what
the
option
is
for
getting
at
that,
because
they
actually
have
done
some
changes
in
the
regulations
at
the
FCC
on
the
content
that
can
go
on
those
Travelers
information
stations
actually
rule
making
that
my
old
law
firm
was
behind.
So.
A
A
G
Well,
not
too
long
ago
we
were
formed
by
the
FCC
to
come.
August
of
2022
they're,
gonna,
they're
gonna
stop
all
cut
Parts
lines,
and
it
goes
back
to
the
whole
point
of
going
to
fiber
and
so
those
parts
lines
not
only
handle
fax
machines
right,
but
they
also
handle
the
phone
and
they
got
in
the
elevator
you're
going
up
in.
We
have
plots
lines
that
are
ring
down
lines
to
the
police,
the
fire
stations.
So
everything
else
feels
we
go
to
that.
G
So
we
raise
all
kinds
of
concern
because
from
the
Council
of
government
perspective,
because
this
has
a
major
impact
on
the
whole
region-
we've
been
fortunate
that
we've
been
migrating
many
of
our
plots
lines,
but
are
the
things
that
when
they
happen
and
they
and
somebody
who
ties
to
technology,
we
tend
to
look
at
it
for
one
reason,
but
the
impact
is
significant.
The.
G
E
E
Could
have
been
20.
I
think
it
was
I,
think
that
was
the
big
concern.
Power
was
out
for
a
lot
of
people
for
a
long
time
and
just
a
a
a
footnote,
my
my
ont
for
my
fio
service,
the
fight
which
is
the
five
basically
the
box
in
the
house
that
terminates
the
fiber
feed.
Well,
my
my
internet
went
down
a
couple
weeks
ago,
and
they
bet
I
mean
it
was
I
was
on
Verizon.
It
was
all
I
mean
the
it
was
all
artificial
intelligence
is
chat
box.
E
It
was
I
mean
it
was.
You
know
a
not
the
greatest
customer
service.
You
should
like
that
Kevin
broadhurst.
It
was
that,
but
but
ultimately
I
had
to
take,
show
them
a
picture
of
my
current
ont
and
they
said
oh
we'll
send
somebody
out
there.
Basically,
the
rnt
was
dead
and
they
and
the
new
one
doesn't
have
a
battery
backup.
I
asked
the
tech
and
he
said
no.
We
don't
do
that
anymore.
So,
hey.
E
Yeah
and
the
and
the
the
outside
box
that
I
had
a
bush
that
grew
up
all
around
and
trimmed
that
all
the
way
back,
so
the
tech
could
get
in
there.
E
A
B
B
I,
like
John's
suggestion
that
we
get
a
briefing,
but
if
a
briefing
happens
a
month
from
now,
it's
not
going
to
be
particularly
useful
in
responding
to
tacos,
and
so
is
there
a
document
that
lays
out
the
cloud
smart
strategy
that
one
could
read
as
opposed
to
waiting
for
a
in-person
briefing
number
one
and
number
two
is
I
I'm
operating
off
a
general
knowledge
of
capital
versus
operating
budgeting,
but
I'm
sure
it's
kind
of
peculiar
in
all
places,
and
so,
if
there's
a
background
document
about
why
something
ends
up
in
capital
versus
something
ends
up
in
operating
and
there's
a
piece
in
the
current
description
that
talks
about.
B
One
of
the
consequences
of
cloud
is
you'll,
be
requiring
less
capital
in
the
future
and
more
operating,
and
presumably
the
savings
from
the
less
Capital
exceed
the
increases
in
the
more
operating.
But
something
that
just
does
Arlington
budgeting
101
between
operating
budgets
and
capital
budgets
would
be
useful
to
make
appropriate
comments.
On
the
capital
piece
that's
before
us
now.
A
Richard
is
that
is,
that
is
that
available.
D
The
I
don't
know
what
the
status
is
of
the
cloud
document,
so
ask
that
question
or
include
that
in
your
list
of
questions
as
far
as
operational
versus
Capital,
it's
very
much
in
the
heads
of
our
accountants-
and
there
are
so
many
quote-unquote.
It
depends
scenarios
that
it
is
not
conductive
to
a
single
document.
D
I'll
I'll
give
you
the
general
overview
in
two
two
or
three
minutes
here
classically
if
it
is
anything
related
to
labor
consumable
materials
like
batteries,
ongoing
services
to
keep
the
lights
on.
All
of
that
is
operational,
expense.
D
The
capital
expense
on
our
side
is
the
actual
equipment,
the
items
with
serial
numbers,
the
items
that
we
depreciate
over
time
and
the
items
that
we
expect
to
have
long
useful
lives.
So
we
follow
the
General
accepted
accounting
principles
there,
where
we
have
some
additional
area
to
capitalize,
is
that
labor
associated
with
a
project
can
be
included
in
the
capitalization
of
that
project.
D
D
And
yes,
it,
you
have
made
a
fair
statement
in
that
our
expectation
is
as
we
shift
to
cloud
services.
We
spend
more
in
operational
money
and
less
in
capital,
because
we
time
sliced
that
equipment
we
we
pay
for
it
as
a
service,
not
as
an
investment
in
equipment
and
DMF,
is
on
board
with
us
as
far
as
that
being
the
future
of
how
these
pieces
of
software
will
be
purchased,
consumed
and
and
and
the
need
to
have
less
Capital
behind,
because
we
just
won't
be
able
to
buy
these
things
there
is.
D
There
are
two
parts
to
the
argument.
One
is
yes,
you
expect
to
save
money,
but
two
is
that
the
in
industry
is
not
allowing
us
a
choice
in
some
places.
We
must
shift
to
a
cloud
subscription
model
and
we
have.
We
have
no
choice
so
independent
of
whether
it
saves
US
money
or
not.
It's
the
future.
For
many
of
these
Services,
they
have
all
figured
out
that
subscriptions
are
the
future
and
we
kind
of
have
to
go
along
with
it.
B
And
I'll
just
throw
one
last
comment
in
I
think
it
is
the
best
practice
that,
as
people
are
doing
their
operating
budget,
they
realize
that
achieving
savings
within
their
operating
budget
and
redeploying
it
to
their
next
object
of
interest
is
an
easier
process
than
the
bureaucracy
than
getting
capital.
And
so
so
I
would
suggest
that
in
the
regular
budget
formulation
process,
you
give
people
some
kind
of
bogey.
You
know
like
we
know.
B
Cloud
should
save
a
little
money,
so
so
show
us
a
budget
that
gets
everything
done
that
got
done
last
year,
but
saves
10
percent
and
then
show
us
where
you
want
to
reinvest
that
10
and
maybe
in
the
future.
There
won't
even
be
much
of
a
capital
budget
not
because
we're
avoiding
it,
but
because
the
nature
of
things
has
moved
into
more
of
an
operational
realm
that
you
do
with
a
credit
card.
A
A
H
H
So
just
for
the
rest
of
the
Commissioners.
If
we
could
get
any
additional
comments
or
thoughts
in
writing,
sent
sent
to
everybody
and
then
we
can
pull
it
together
and
send
it
to
Tacos
before
the
County
Board
work
session.
Right.
A
A
E
Yes,
let's
see
it
has
been
some
action,
let's
see
actually
back
to
our
one
of
our
favorite
topics:
the
data
privacy,
the
discussion
draft
of
the
bipartisan
data
practice
that
has
been
circulated,
which
would
allow
consumers
to
turn
off
targeted
ads
online
leaders
of
both
parties
have
signed
on
to
this
draft,
except
the
Senate
Commerce
chair,
Maria
cantwelkins,
Washington
State.
She
is
in
favor
of
what
she
views
as
a
stronger
federal
law.
E
So
so
there
I
think
have
been
further
discussion,
so
they're,
hopefully
moving
towards
an
agreement
there,
but
nothing
nothing
imminent.
At
this
point,
the
FCC
has
released
its
affordable
connectivity
program
at
ACP,
which
I've
talked
about
consumer
Outreach
toolkit,
which
includes
a
host
of
resources
for
government
Partners
to
get
the
word
out
about
the
30
monthly
discount.
That
of
both
I
think
Verizon
and
Comcast
have
said
that
they
would
provide
service
for
that
amount
to
people
who
meet
the
the
affordability
criteria.
Idea
of
criteria.
E
Senator
Elizabeth
Warren
has
introduced
broad
legislation
to
ban
the
sale
of
location
and
Health
Data.
The
bill
would
bar
data
Brokers
from
selling
or
transferring
location
and
Health
Data
and
Verizon's.
E
New
mobile
plus
home
discounts
drops
its
cheapest
home
internet
plan
to
25
a
month,
so
so
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
activity
on
the
on
the
Broadband,
both
wired
and
wireless
phones,
Verizon
completed
a
5G
data
session
using
citizens,
Broadband
Radio
Service
cbrs
General
authorized
access,
frequency,
which
is
the
unlicensed
inspection,
and
it's
Bryson
has
also
acquired
cbrs
Priority
Access,
which
is
a
light
pal
Spectrum,
which
is
the
license
Spectrum
within
the
cbrs.
E
That's
the
3.5
gigahertz
anyhow,
the
prior
use
of
cbrs
was
for
LTE,
so
this
is
a
first
as
far
as
making
use
of
cbrs
for
5G,
which
is
I,
think
an
important
development
there,
President
Biden
signed
a
bill
to
to
authorize
the
cyber
security
and
infrastructure
Security
Agency
to
a
state
to
assist
state
and
local
governments
and
bolstering
their
cyber
defenses
by
providing
access
to
digital
tools
and
services,
and
the
President
also
signed
a
bill
that
establishes
a
program
allowing
cyber
Security
Experts
to
rotate
through
various
federal
agencies
and
to
enhance
their
expertise.
B
Yeah
Frank
I'm
wondering
if
you
happen
to
know
the
details
in
the
federal
data
privacy
thing
as
regards
what
I
think
is
called
Supremacy
like
will
the
federal
law
preclude
stricter
state
or
local
laws
and
or
Does?
It
include
any
kind
of
grandfathering
that
says
if
you've
already
taken
action
like
we
just
recommended
the
board
to
do
what
effect
would
this
Federal
legislation
have
on
those
actions?
E
Know
for
sure
you
know,
I
I
think
in
you
know
typically
I
think
there
is
a
a
push
for
federal
preemption
on
this.
Just
so
there's
not
a
patchwork
of
50
state
laws,
or
you
know
thousands
of
Municipal
laws,
I.
Think
typically,
that's.
You
know
part
of
part
of
the
reason
to
get
everybody
to
the
table.
So
I.
B
K
E
And
I
believe
Connecticut.
Now
is
the
fifth
state
that
has
just
adopted
a
state
data
Privacy
Law,
so
there
you
know
there
is
growing
push
among
states
and
and
localities
to
to
address.
This
I
think
that
may
provide
impetus
for
a
federal
regime.
A
That's
great,
that's
great!
All
right!
We'll
move
now
to
lessons
learned
from
the
safety
Innovation
Zone
John!
You
wanna,
walk
us
through
that.
H
So
I
sent
out
the
document.
Essentially
we
are
a
little
over
the
original
deadline
for
the
pilot
to
be
completed.
H
There's
a
staff
level
report,
I
I,
don't
know
the
extent
to
which
we're
going
to
be
able
to
get
a
briefing
on
the
staff
report,
I
hadn't
heard
back
or
if
I
have
I
it's
lost
in
my
inbox
and
so
I
went
ahead
and
I
drafted
with
some
feedback
from
Sharon
the
chair
of
the
epac
commission,
a
series
of
Lessons
Learned
and
Associated
policy
recommendations
that
have
a
Nexus
to
the
pilot
project
and
you
know
so
I
I
think
what
I'd
like
is
just
hear
from
folks.
H
If
they
have
questions
about
any
of
the
Lessons
Learned
or
or
recommendations,
if
they,
if
you
feel
that
there's
anything
missing
mischaracterize
any
of
that,
so
I'll
just
kind
of
open
the
floor
to
hands
yeah.
A
And
just
to
clarify
I
know:
I
sent
out
Sharon's.
Thanks
for
your
comments,
I
sent
out
the
updated
version
to
you
all
with
share
because
it
it
would
be
a
joint
letter,
obviously
from
both
on
both
commissions.
So
there
are
some
some
ships
a
little
a
few
changes
and
Sharon.
If
you
want
to
comment
before
we
open
it
up
to
the
floor,
do
you
have
any
addition.
J
I
think
the
comments
speak
to
themselves.
Sorry,
I
think
that
there
are
a
couple
things
that
would
be
helpful
for
you
to
know
in
that
I
think
it's
important
that
any
of
these
types
of
future
projects
do
balance,
Public,
Safety
and
and
the
needs
of
needs
for
the
for
for
that
from
a
community
safety
perspective
with
things
such
as
civil
liberties,
because
technology
isn't
perfect
and
it
still
has
bias
and
I.
J
J
I
also
think
it's
important
and
the
higher
level
not
to
become
too
reliant
on
technology
if
emergencies
occur
because
is
in
the
in
a
true
emergency.
It
may
be
that
the
technical
solution
may
not
be
available
and
we
need
to
use
lower
level.
I
guess
is
the
way
to
say
it
Solutions
and
then
the
last
thing
I
want
to
to
make
sure
folks
know.
J
Besides,
what's
in
the
letter
or
the
updated
letter,
is
that
Aaron
Miller
has
been
appointed,
acting
Deputy
County
manager
and
what
we
were
told
is
that
he
is
now
over
both
Public
Safety
and
I.T
and
I.
Don't
know
how
that
ties
into
DTS,
but
it
may
or
may
not,
because
that's
all
we've
been
given
so
far
as
his
title
may
or
may
not
indicate
that
there
could
be
other
types
of
projects
such
as
what's
happening
in
the
safety
and
Innovation
Zone
and
at
National
Landing
in
the
future.
Thanks.
A
Mary
yeah
thanks
thanks,
Sharon
and
I.
Think
John.
My
understanding
of
of
you
crafting
this
really.
The
purpose
from
you
and
Sharon
was
that
it
really
was
just
a
an
opportunity
to
make
sure
and
capture
the
lessons
learned
from
both
your
viewpoints
and
then
be
able
to
provide
the
board
an
understanding
of
some
of
the
framework
and
some
things
to
consider.
Moving
forward.
Correct.
H
Yeah
yeah:
that's
right.
We
wanted
to
be
able
to
give
concrete
policy
recommendations
about
actions
that
the
board
could
take.
That
we
think
would
would
improve
future
Pilots
and
I.
Think
it
it's
critical
that
you
know
the
sometimes
in
technology
you
know
most
probably
Christians
in
the
choir
here.
You
learn
faster
by
doing
a
thing
than
by
analyzing
a
thing
or.
C
H
True,
right
and-
and
so
Pilots
are
good
to
do
that,
but
when
you
do
that
you're
removing
a
lot
of
your
process,
checks
you're,
removing
a
lot
of
the
the
the
risk
controls
that
you
would
have
on
a
project
where
you
know
what
you're
doing
you
know
how
to
execute
against
it.
You
come
up
with
a
plan.
You
do
the
planning
activity
up
front
right
and
so
those
those
risks
needs
to
be
bounded
effectively
and
controlled
effectively,
so
that
the
The
Learning
Happens.
H
But
you
don't
you-
don't-
have
unanticipated
consequences
from
from
other
risks
and
so
risk
really
is
the
the
important
consideration
when
doing
a
pilot
and
treating
Pilots
as
as
risky
in
different
ways
than
your
normal
type
of
project.
I
think
is
really
important.
A
Yeah
thanks
John
I,
think
I,
think
Mike
and
then
Phil.
B
John
I
think
this
is
a
solid
piece
of
work
and
I.
Think
the
context
is
very
important
to
me.
Am
I
correct
that,
because
we
were
unable
to
review
a
draft
of
the
report,
that's
being
written
to
send
to
the
board.
We
are
on
our
own
motion,
making
a
set
of
observations
and
recommendations,
because
we
know
we're
being
left
out
of
the
actual
report.
Is
that
true.
H
I,
don't
know
that
that's
how
I'd
characterize
it
I
I'd
say
that
their
timeline
is
different
for
for
reasons
of
institutional
prerogative,
which
I
think
are
perfectly
valid,
and
so
what
I've
done
is
I
took
the
same
recommendations
that
I
had
provided
to
be
included
in
the
staff
report.
The
content
of
the
report
is
really
project
focused
and
focused
on
the
pilot
itself
and
and
so
I
had
made
some
recommendations.
H
We've
made
some
recommendations
about
privacy,
focused
recommendations
coming
out
of
the
governance
panel
right,
which
is
which
we
participated
in
and
those
are
actually
included
in
this
document.
So
it's
not
that
we're
we're
left
on
our
own
that
there's
just
a
different
kind
of
focus
for
that
report
and
the
timeline
is
different,
and
so,
whether
or
not
that
that
moves
to
being
a
public
publicly
available
report
is
is
outside
of
our
purview
and,
and
so
there
are
other
non-privacy
recommendations
which
you
see
up
at
the
top.
H
Really,
that
I
think
are
more
important
for
us
to
be
making
to
the
board,
as
I've
said
it
several
times
on
all
bears
repeating
the
Privacy
aspects
of
this
project.
I
think
are
the
strongest.
H
You
know
some
of
the
other
other
aspects
of
this
project
that
I'm
more
concerned
about
specifically,
you
know
the
use
case
right.
The
use
case
that
was
proposed
was
viewed
skeptically
by
the
public
from
the
very
beginning
and
I
believe
this,
this
commission
as
well
and
and
then
there
was
concerns
about
you-
know
some
of
the
project
Partners
and
not
having
a
whole
lot
of
transparency
on
on
jiganu.
H
Frankly,
maybe
they're
great
the
marketing
materials
look
good,
but
there's
really
no
publicly
available
information
about
them,
and
so
so
really
it's.
What
are
the
use
cases
where
we're
going
after
and
shouldn't
they
be
use
cases
that
are
of
strategic
priority
to
the
arms
and
County
Arlington
County
right
rather
than
someone
showing
up
with
a
solution
in
search
of
a
problem,
because
there's
a
lot
of
vendors
out
there
who
have
Solutions
in
search
of
problems
and
I.
Think
if
we
advertise-
and
we
explicitly
say,
listen
we're
an
Innovative
place.
H
We
want
Innovation,
we
want
to
partner
with
the
public
sector
with
sorry
with
the
private
sector.
But
here
are
the
things
we
need
help
on.
I
think
will
get
better
Pilots,
we'll
get
better
partners
and
we'll
get
better
value
and
I
think
something
a
comment
that
that
Jackie
made
at
the
beginning
was:
you
know
the
risk
reward
trade-off.
Well,
there's
no,
no
excuse
taking
any
risk
whatsoever
if
the
value
proposition
at
the
end
of
it
doesn't
make
any
sense
for
us
right.
B
And
that
makes
perfect
sense
to
me.
John
thanks
for
the
clarification
and
I
would
say
the
most
fundamental
question
is
we
are
year
into
this
pilot?
Have
we
moved
the
needle
on
safety
and
what
was
the
most
Innovative
part
of
the
pilot?
Well,
if
we
don't
have
quick
answers
to
that
question
after
a
year
that
suggests
that
the
design
wasn't
particularly
rigorous.
H
As
you,
as
you
saw
in
the
the
comments
and
I
tried
to
imply
this
rather
than
come
out
and
say,
the
the
value
proposition
of
the
use
case
that
was
proposed
has
proved
elusive
up
until
this
point,
I
think
it
has
taken
longer
than
the
project
team
anticipated
to
turn
the
data
gleaned
from
these
devices
into
a
useful
signal
for
emergency
dispatch.
H
I
think
I
think
they
they
expected
to
be
able
to
do
that
faster
and
I.
Think
there's
some
some
technical
reasons
why
it
has
taken
longer
that
may
have
been
overcome.
That
may
may
result
in
in
success.
H
K
A
couple
of
points:
if
there
was
a
follow-on
to
that
program,
baking
somewhere,
would
would
we
know
about
it.
Would
we
have
a
right
to
know
about
it.
H
So
I
don't
think
so
that's
why
recommendation
one
is
to
specifically
create
an
authorization
for
pilot
type
activities
and
find
a
risk
assessment
and
use
risk
as
the
gauge
for
the
type
of
Pilots
that
need
board
action
and
I.
You
know
we
all
have
opinions
on
what
those
risk
levels
should
be
and
what
those
risk
factors
should
be,
but
I
think
that's
really
for
the
board
and
the
County
government
to
Define
I.
H
Don't
think
every
pilot
needs
to
come
to
the
board,
but
I
think
some
should
and
I
think
I
think
the
board
and
the
manager
and
and
County
staff
should
think
through
how
to
evaluate
those
things.
But
at
this
point
there's
in
my
my
knowledge,
no
no
rules
or
of
the
road
for
this
type
of
activity,
and
this
was
kind
of
a
one-off.
K
Yeah
a
little
bit
different,
I
noticed.
Most
of
these
recommendations
are
phrased.
Something
like
the
county
should
do
this,
and
the
county
should
do
that.
Does
the
letter
really
intend
to
request
that
the
board
have
a
consensus
and
task
the
county
manager
with
carrying
out
certain
things
which
are
laid
out
in
the
in
the
recommendation?
H
I
think
yes,
the
intention
is
that
the
board
would
take
an
action
to
implement
some
of
these
things.
How
what
the
form
of
that
action
should
be,
whether
it's
you
know
informal
or
whether
it's
formal
you
know
I'll
leave
their
discretion.
A
F
Yeah,
thank
you,
I
think
it's
a
very
it's
a
good
letter.
I
like
it
I
think
it.
It
was
actually
a
lot.
I,
don't
know
milder
comes
to
mind
less
pointed
than
I
expected.
It
would
be-
and
maybe
that's
part
of
what
you're
getting
at
in
terms
of
what
the
exact
recommendation
is.
It's
more
General,
I
guess
than
I
thought
and
I
am
particularly
given
the
last
draft
of
the
report
that
I
saw,
which
I
think
you
know
did
address
things
a
little
more
pointedly.
F
I
had
a
couple.
I
did
send
one
and
writing
and
then
I
have
another
one
that
are
a
little
bit
more
pointed
I
was
struck
from
the
beginning,
with
the
apparent
lack
of
expertise
by
the
staff
on
what
the
components
of
the
project
were
specifically
the
sensors.
F
So
it
took
us
quite
a
long
time
and
multiple
drafts
and
rewrites
to
get
something
like
a
table
or
a
matrix
of
the
sensors
in
terms
of
what
was
their
inherent
capability
and
was
it
being
used
for
that?
What
additional
capabilities
could
it
have
by
adjustment
and
what
capabilities?
If
you
wanted,
you
would
have
to
make
an
addition.
F
Additional
software
additional
whatever-
and
this
was
partly
because
we
were
trying
to
get
at
well
what,
if
some
you
know
bad
actor
or
to
tap
into
it,
could
they
add
stuff
that
would
make
it
usable
for
other
purposes?
That
was
one
of
the
reasons
for
asking,
so
it
was
definitely
a
security
and
a
safety
and
a
privacy
issue
as
well
as
a
an
operational.
F
That
would
be
something
that
would
be
part
of
the
description
that
the
that
would
have
been
provided
as
part
of
the
non-competitive
proposal
of
here's.
You
know
the
specifications
of
what
we
plan
to
provide.
F
The
other
thing
is
it
showed
it
definitely
demonstrated
how
dependent
our
staff
is
and
Jack
was
actually
mentioning.
This
a
little
bit
earlier
with
respect
to
other
things,
I
think
I'm,
not
mischaracterizing,
Jack,
that
there's
there
are
a
lot
of
areas
of
new
expertise
where
we
don't
necessarily
have
in-house
expertise,
so
we're
somewhat
dependent
on
on
getting
that
third
party
expertise
which
was
through
Mason
and
through
the
Commonwealth
group
cyber
group,
so
I
think
there
does
need
to
be
some
things.
F
F
That's
that's
first.
So.
H
Think
that
is
addresses
by
recommendation
3.1,
you
know,
there's
you're,
you're,
never
gonna
have
all
the
smart
people
in
the
world
who
work
under
your
roof
right
and
what
we
need
is
we
need
those
independent
relationship
relationships
with
independent
technical
experts
that
don't
have
a
vested
economic
interest
in
their
advice
to
us
right
and
so
I
think
the
partnership
with
the
Commonwealth
cyber
initiative
and
the
Virginia
Tech
Innovation
campus
and
innovate
at
Mason.
That
are
the
expansions
of
those
those
research
institutions
are
hugely
valuable.
F
I
guess
that's
where
it's
not,
as
pointed
as
I
would
think
it
would
be,
and
there's
an
example-
and
that
is
it
says
you
know
this
says
quite
politely-
that
it
would
that
this
kind
of
expertise
will
be
required
and
that
the
county
should
have
those
strategic
Partnerships.
It
doesn't
say
we
shouldn't
embark
on
these
kinds
of
plans
until
we've
established
that
relationship
and
reviewed
The
Proposal
with
the
outside
experts
and
I,
do
think.
There's
some
danger
to
taking
on
unsolicited
proposal
and
jumping
in
and
then
getting
the
expertise.
H
Yeah
I
I,
don't
disagree
with
you,
I
guess
the
the
pointed
versus
not
pointed
as
more
of
a
stylistic
thing
from.
H
I
I
do
I,
do
intend,
and
maybe
it's
not
as
clear
or
or
or
explicit,
that
the
the
risk
assessment
portion
should
be
thorough
and
if
you're
thoroughly
doing
a
risk
assessment
of
Pilots
you're
going
to
look
at
your
own
capabilities
with
regards
to
the
to
the
Technologies
in
question
and
I.
Agree
that
the
the
learning
that
this
project
team
did
about
the
capabilities
of
these
devices
during
the
project
was
a
bit
I
will
say
more
than
a
bit.
F
H
F
Me
too,
that's
that's,
I
mean
I
to
me
it's.
It
was
a
bigger
problem
than
the
gentleness
of
this
dialogue
conveys
and
maybe
saying
you
need
to
have
that
expertise
before
you
take
on
and
not
unsolicited
proposal.
But
that's
what
I'm
saying
is
this
the
risk?
Some
a
large
part
of
this
risk
assessment
and
the
value
proposition
should
have
been
done
before
any
agreement.
F
Maybe
we're
in
the
section
where
you
are
talking
about
the
nist
using
the
nist
framework,
a
reference
to
the
other
letter
that
we
just
painstakingly
completed,
because
one
of
the
reasons
why
the
count
why,
in
doing
the
nist
framework,
we
were
not
able
to
answer
questions
about
the
organization
as
a
whole,
but
only
focus
on
where
we
had
the
opportunity
to
ask
multiple
questions
about
a
specific
project
is
because
we
do
not
have
the
digital
policy
and
privacy
and
and
and
overarching
privacy
policy
that
we're
recommending
that
they
have
so
that
Gap
showed
up
very
prominently
in
how
we're
able
to
assess
this
pilot
or
any
pilot
in
the
context
of
the
overall.
F
So
one
of
our
big
issues
was
we
could
look
at
security
and
safety
until
the
point
at
which
these
systems
connected
to
other
systems,
which
is
actually
the
potentially
the
most
dangerous
point.
When
you
begin
to
aggregate
data
together,
and
at
that
point
we
had
no
knowledge
of
what
the
security
and
the
Privacy
policies
were.
That
would
apply
to
the
to
the
integration
as
it
went
back
through
the
the
chain
of
of
communications
and
and
use
in
other
parts
of
the
agency.
F
So
maybe
the
way
around
going
through
all
that
level
of
detail
is
to
Simply
make
a
reference
to
the
recommendation
we've
made
and
and
indicate
that
this
is
a.
You
know
that
our
inability
to
do
this,
this
framework
is
exactly
the
kind
of
thing
that
we
would
like
to
have
cured
by
having
the
the
overall
overarching
policy.
H
Both
valid
pieces
of
feedback,
jacking
I'll,
take
actions
to
incorporate
both
of
those
into
the
into
the
letter.
A
B
I
have
two
brief
comments,
neither
of
which
relate
to
the
changes
in
the
document,
but
I'd
like
to
just
get
them
on
the
record,
and
one
is
I
believe
in
the
year
that
this
pilot
has
been
going
on
the
center
for
innovation
technology,
which
is
a
Virginia
state
level.
Entity
has
created
a
test
bed
out
in
Stafford
or
Dumfries,
or
something
like
that
and
and
had
that
existed
at
the
beginning
of
this.
One
of
the
options
would
have
been
to
say.
B
Well,
let's
address
the
citizens
worries
by
not
subjecting
the
citizens
to
the
surveillance,
but
rather
do
all
our
technology
testing
at
this
other
community.
That
has
volunteered
to
be
such
a
test
fit
and
did
so
with
buys
open
consent.
I
think
we
would
have
got
some
technical
expertise
to
go
with
it,
but
fundamentally
we
would
have
been
able
to
get
any
of
the
technology
integration
level
questions
that
the
pilot
was
asking
by
creating
a
test
bed
and
learning
about
the
technology
out
there
without
exposing
anybody
either
for
real
or
just
in
their
imagination.
B
You
know
to
something
that
bothers
their
sensibilities.
The
other
piece
is
and
I
think
this
is
a
very
difficult
problem
and
that
is
and
I'm
going
to
use
an
analogy
here
when
we're
regulating
physical
space
in
the
county,
we
use
site
plans
and
there's
all
kinds
of
setback,
things
and
density
restrictions
and
height
restrictions.
I,
don't
even
know
them
very
well,
but
I
know
it's
very
easy
to
see
whether
the
party
that's
on
the
other
agreement
is
staying
within
the
constraints
you
know,
is
the
building
as
tall
as
we
approved
or
is
it
taller?
B
Does
it
come
as
close
to
the
Border
as
it
does
and
it's
hard
to
fix
that
it's
hard
to
move
that
when
it
comes
to
data's
collection
and
data
use,
we
can
certainly
test
at
a
moment
in
time,
but
there's
a
whole
decades
worth
of
docket
at
the
Federal
Trade
Commission.
That
says
the
biggest
risk
to
what
I
think
I
heard.
The
citizens
concerns
here
in
Arlington
is
not
necessarily
that
militia's
third
party,
it's
the
second
party
who
entered
an
agreement
with
you
to
stay
within
certain
constraints
and
then
willfully
broke
that
agreement
for
profit.
B
That's
the
that's,
the
biggest
risk
and
I'm,
not
sure
what
we
can
do
about
that,
but
it
won't
be
very
satisfying
to
citizens
to
say
well
on
the
day
we
started
the
pilot,
we
got
them
to
sign
this
contract
and
then
we
have
no
idea.
You
know
whether
they
comply
with
this
or
not.
H
Yeah
Mike
I
think
the
recommendation
about
explicitly
explicitly
advertising
for
the
type
of
values
we're
looking
for
in
our
partners
and
and
having
more
clear
profiles
of
those
Partners
as
part
of
the
project
or
Pilot
approval
process
speaks
to
that
because
you're
gonna
have
to
trust
somebody
right.
So,
let's,
let's
work
with
people
that
we
think
share
our
values,
I
think
and.
B
I
think
that's
a
fine
step
in
the
right
direction.
John
I'm
going
to
be
very
skeptical
and
say
and
they're
all
trustworthy
until
they
borrow
money
or
raise
money
in
the
public
markets
and
then
they,
then
they
succumb
to
the
quarterly
profit
targets
and
they
do
things
they
probably
wouldn't
have
done
when
when
it
was
just
Surge
and
the
other
guy.
H
Yeah
I
think
I
think
their
business
model
factors
in
explicitly
into
that
evaluation
of
their
values.
J
Yeah,
so
actually
I
guess:
first,
is
there
I,
don't
know
how
what
your
method
is?
Do
you
vote
on
approving
a
letter
or
how
do
you
before
I
get
to
them.
A
Well,
John
will
have
to
incorporate
these
changes
so
that
people
can
see
the
the
new
draft
okay
and
then
and
then
then
there'll
be
a
an
email,
since
we
won't
be
meeting
until
well.
You
all
won't
be
meeting
until
August,
so
I
I
assume
our
goal
is
to
get
this
letter
to
the
board
before
August
so
Sharon,
my
John,
my
understanding
is
you'll.
Incorporate
then
send
it
around
and
see
if
there's
consensus.
H
K
K
Be
requested
to
do
x,
y
and
z,
it's
just
not
it's
not
very
clear
what
what
specific
things
need
to
be
done
or
any
sense
of
of
urgency
or
even
explicitness
in
the
in
the
recommendations.
H
So
would
you
mind
drafting
that,
for
me,
I
was
expecting
you
to
ask
a
connection
to
the
recommendation
for
county-wide
Information
Technology
plan.
K
H
Yeah
I
think
I
think
I
think
a
summary
paragraph
at
the
end
that
says
you
know
in
closing
we
we,
you
know
respectfully
request
the
board
to
to
implement
these
recommendations.
I
think
would
be
perfectly
fine.
Many
of
these
recommendations
would
be
easier
to
implement
if
we
had
a
county-wide
strategic
plan
as
part
of
the
comprehensive
plan
to
guide
the
implementation
of
these
recommendations.
J
J
What
we've
shown
is
that
the
commissions
can
do
great
work
and
really
benefit
the
county
by
using
our
combined
expertise
for
the
betterment
of
the
community
and
I
just
I
I,
don't
think
that
would
have
happened,
had
Mary,
not
welcomed
it
with
open
arms
or,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
think
her
and
the
rest
of
the
commission
on
behalf
of
epac
and
I
I.
Wish
you
the
best,
as
as
you
take
this
forward
thanks.
A
Thank
you
Sharon.
Well,
it
certainly
has
been
it's
been
a
wild
ride
and
you've
taught
me
a
lot
about
emergency
preparedness.
Thank
you.
It's
so
we've
I
think
Frank
is
the
institutional
memory
on
the
team,
but
I
think
this
is
probably
the
closest
we've
worked
with.
We
have
worked
with
epec
in
the
past,
but
I
think
this
has
been
one
of
the
closest
relationships.
E
Yeah
I
think
that's
right
now
we
have
worked
with
them
in
the
past,
but
I
think
it's
I
think
it
is
an
area
where
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
because
there
is
a
lot
of
intersex
intersections
there.
A
I
G
A
A
Okay,
so
John,
you
will
get
this
letter
out
to
obviously
Sharon
as
well,
since
her
name
is
also
on
that
letter.
A
Any
I
think
we're
I
and
I
appreciate
everybody
engaging
in
getting
clarity
about
that.
That's
good
and
I
also
appreciate
that
we're.
You
know.
One
of
the
reasons
we
do
pilots
is
to
learn
and
so
I
think
it's
helpful
to
get
a
lot
of
lessons
learned
recorded
So,
thanks
John,
for
for
drafting
that
you
and
Sharon
from
able
to
capture
that.
So
we
don't
lose
it
because
the
farther
away
we
get
from
it
the
more
the
the
more
foggy
those
those
experiences
become
the
next
on
our
list,
because
it
it
usually
comes.
A
We
usually
get
a
no
that
says
what
are
your
legislative
priorities
fairly
quickly,
so
we
really
wanted
to
to
we've
primed
this
pump
a
couple
of
times
and
you'll
notice
in
when
we
review
the
minutes.
There
were
a
couple
things
that
that
we
already
have
down
in
terms
of
virtual
meetings
and
just
wanted
to
throw
it
out
again,
if
there's
any
other
things
that
you
all
have
thought
about,
that
we
want
to
make
recommendations
to
the
board
about
legislative
priorities.
A
Any
anything
else
that
you
all
have
thought
about,
so
that
when,
when
the
email
arrives
that
we
will
have
it
yeah
Mike.
B
I
would
like
to
propose
some
transparency
in
the
use
of
non-disclosure
agreements
and
sometimes
I
have
the
feeling
with
no
evidence
that
the
reason
I'm
not
getting
a
response
on
the
other
side
of
a
dialogue
is
because
the
person
has
been
constrained
in
their
public
duties,
illegally,
enforceable
non-disclosure
agreement
and
the
most
frustrating
part
about
that
is
I.
Of
course,
don't
get
to
know
whether
there
is
one
or
there
isn't.
B
But
as
we
talk
about
pilots
and
Distortion
and
competition
I
believe
non-disclosure
agreements
are
an
area
that
merits
policy
I'm,
not
saying
every
single
one
of
them
has
to
be
transparent,
I
do
understand,
oftentimes
technology
companies
have
patents
pending
and
other
proprietary
information,
but
I'm
just
sort
of
sick
to
my
stomach
about
the
possibility
that
a
private
Venture,
Capital,
funded
company
could
get
one
of
my
elected
officials
or
somebody
who's
been
paid
with
my
tax
dollars
to
have
to
be
quiet
and,
for
example,
never
say
the
word
surveillance
out
loud.
B
So
my
suggestion
would
be:
let's
see
if
we
can
frame
a
legislative
policy
that
says
we're
concerned
about
how
to
share
with
the
public
the
necessity
of
non-disclosure
agreements,
and
we
prefer
to
restrict
them
to
matters
that
are
have
patents
pending
or
other
genuinely
transactable
intellectual
property,
not
just
I
like
the
aura
of
innovation.
So
I
make
you
sign
a
non-disclosure
agreement
and
then
it
then
it
interferes
with
your
public
duties.
B
Foreign
San
Diego
has
banned
them
completely,
and
other
communities
require
the
the
transparency
that
there
is
a
such
an
agreement.
Of
course
it's
not
what
the
content
of
the
agreement
is,
but,
for
example,
it
might
be
Mike.
Carlton
is
on
the
information
technology
advisory
commission
for
Arlington.
He
has
signed
non-disclosure
agreements
with
the
following
corporate
interests.
B
I
K
E
The
roadblocks
are
taken
away
if
the
county
does
establish
a
Broadband
Authority,
then
I
think
that
is
authorized
under
this
under
state
law
and
then
I
I,
don't
think
it's
a
slam
dunk.
That
is,
that
the
floodgates
open
on
the
money,
but
the
money
is
being
sent
around
there
is
this
tension
between
filling
in
rural
holes
and
coverage
and
trying
to
provide
additional
service
in
urbanized
area,
where
affordability
is
an
issue
or
other
gaps.
E
So
while
there
was
some
language
coming
out
and
some
pushback
going
on
between
weather
fiber
can
be
the
preferred
methodology
or
whether
it
should
be
technology
agnostic
and
whether
Wireless
can
also
be
used
to
provide
provide
Broadband
in
areas.
So
that's
so,
but
yes,
I,
think
the
State
issue
goes
away
if
there's
a
Broadband
Authority,
but
if,
if
not,
if
the
state,
if
the
county
tries
to
do
it
on
its
own,
without
the
Broadband
Authority,
then
then
it
there
would
be
obstacles.
E
Given
that
there's
this
existing
framework
that
you're
establishing
abroad
ban,
Authority
I
would
say
it
would
be
pretty,
especially
given
the
change
in
the
administration
in
Richmond
and
and
changes
in
the
legislature,
I
would
say:
it'd
be
pretty
tough
to
tough
ask
to
get
the
county
to
have
that
Authority.
When
there's
our
an
existing
framework
that
permits
it
to
go
forward
separate
entity.
A
A
Think
two
or
we've
got
three
now
well,
usually
we
do
three
or
four
so
if,
if
others
come
to
mind
and
probably
usually
we're
supposed
to
get
it
to
them
in
July,
sometimes
later,
depending
on
their
depending
on
their
process
but
July
or
August
at
the
we
have
done
it
later
than
that,
but
usually
it's
it's
good
for
us
to
get
it
to
them
earlier,
as
as
for
those
of
you
who
haven't
gone
through
this
process
before
what
happens
is
each
commission
is
usually
asked
to
give
a
priority
two
or
three,
and
then
the
County
Board
decides
not
only
with
Arlington
but
kind
of
Northern
Virginia,
what
their
priorities
will
be
and
what
their
recommendations
will
be
for
for
Richmond.
A
So
this
is
a
iterative
process
that
moves
up,
and
so
the
sooner
we
we
start
sending
our
our
requests
in
probably
the
the
better
the
seed
to
seed
people.
Thinking
about
the
digital
priorities
that
that
would
be
helpful
from
a
state
point
of
view,
all
right
thanks,
everybody
I
next
on
the
on
the
list
is
the
March
and
April
Angela
tried
her
very
best
to
make
sure
we
had
may
as
well,
but
it
was
the
transcript
something
went
pear-shaped
and
so
the
transcript
was
not
available.
A
So
you
will
pick
up
the
May
review
of
minutes
in
in
your
August
meeting,
but
we
do
have
the
March
and
April
minutes.
Are
there
any?
Let's
take
the
March
minutes.
First.
Are
there
any
additions
deletions
anything
you
wanted
anything!
You
want
to
recommend
amending
to
those
to
the
March
minutes.
A
No,
that's
all
right,
that's
all
right,
any
any
anything!
Anything
you
want
to
any
any
changes
to
the
March
minutes.
A
All
right
I
will
entertain
adopting
the
March
minutes.
E
A
A
One
you're
doing
the
Double
J
all
right,
all
right,
all
those
in
favor.
A
Put
up
the
little
thumbs
any
any
Nays,
any
abstentions,.
A
All
right,
March,
March
minutes
are
approved
all
right.
Let's
look
at
the
April
minutes.
Any
any
changes
deletions
additions.
Anything
you
want
to
correct
in
the
record
for
the
April
minutes.
A
We
we
do
not
at
the
moment
and
I
I
Takis
was
intending
to
to
come
this
evening.
I'm
sure
something
has
has
come
up,
so
that
will
be
postponed
John
for
another.
C
A
E
E
A
A
Thank
you.
Oh
John's
even
got
the
hand
all
right
against
any
Nays,
any
abstentions.
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
all
right.
So
April
minutes
are
approved,
so
we
will
put
both
of
those
up
on
the
up
on
the
website.
Thank
you.
All.
That's
good
got
that
done
and
we
have
a
couple
more
minutes,
so
I'm
I'm,
taking
my
my
last
my
my
last
time
as
as
chair
just
wanted
to
to
thank
you
all.
A
It
has
been.
It's
been
delightful
and
yesterday
it
was
very
kind
of
Frank
and
Jack
and
and
the
boards
and
and
you
for
those
of
you
who
might
not
have
seen
my
my
comments.
A
A
Yes
and
one
of
the
things
I
said
there
were
two
two
comments:
I
just
wanted
to
share:
oh,
oh
Angela,
aren't
you
sweet
and
I
did
actually
Angela
did
to
get
a
shout
out.
I
said
that
she
really
has
gone
above
and
beyond
to
support
us.
A
We
really
appreciate
it
and
and
Jack,
as
you
know,
you
you're
you're,
always
as
you
already
demonstrated
on
this
on
this
meeting
as
well,
you're
always
pushing
the
envelope
looking
looking
what's
what's
next
around
the
corner,
just
a
couple
things
I
wanted
to
mention,
and
one
that
I
had
not
said
yesterday,
but
certainly
feel
strongly
about.
A
You
know
I
said
that
you
know
many
question
the
state
of
our
democracy,
and
certainly
this
week,
given
given
what
the
hearings
that
we've
been
seeing,
but
the
willingness
of
talented
citizens,
all
of
you
really
who
are
willing
to
volunteer,
really
help
to
help
the
community
really
gives
me
hope-
and
that
is
one
of
the
things
I
have
always
been
impressed
with-
is
the
the
caliber
of
the
people
who
are
willing
to
carve
out
time
to
commit
to
the
community
and
the
the
other
thing
is
that
the
you
know
what
I've
noticed
in
terms
of
democracy
is
the
enemy
of
democracy
is,
is
not
conflict,
but
it's
apathy
and
complacency,
and
you
know
I,
think
we're
really
fortunate
to
have
a
dedicated
team.
A
You
know
of
professionals
on
this
Tech
commission
who
will
really
do,
spend
time
and
effort,
asking
questions
and
and
really
looking
at
what
what
are
the
best
steps
forward
for
the
community
and
what's
aligned
with
our
values
so
I
again,
heartfelt
things.
I
I
am
very
pleased
that
Frank
and
John
have
said
yes
to
to
taking
over.
A
That
gives
me
great
comfort,
because
I
know
that
they
not
only
are
very
competent,
but
also
their
intentions
are
good
in
support
of
of
Arlington
and
and
the
the
vision
for
Arlington
to
be
not
quite
Tech
Disney,
but
to
be
that
balance
between
between
a
certainly
having
Tech
be
available,
but
not
not
intrusive.
So
it
again,
it
really
has
been
my
honor
and
I
I.
Thank
all
of
you
and
I
do
as
chair
I'm,
asking
one
more
one
more
question
of
you.
A
If
you
can
take
come
off,
come
off
the
put
your
cameras
on
and
we'll
do
we'll
do
a
we'll
do
a
team!
Everybody
come
off.
Camera
yep,
come
on
camera
and
we'll
we'll
do
a
team
team,
View
and
I'll
I'll
take
I'll,
take
a
a
screenshot,
so
Angela.
A
A
Let's
see
there,
we
go
got
it
and
one
more
just
in
case
there
we
go
all
right
all
right.
We
have
the
technology,
I'll
I'll,
make
sure
and
get
this
in
and
and
save
it
so
that
we
so
that
we
have
it,
because
it's
the
only
way
in
this
in
this
time
of
you
know
in
in
this
time
of
covid,
that
we're
able
to
take
the
group
shot,
but
at
least
we
at
least
we
got
it.
That's
good!
Thank
you
all.
Scaring.
A
Thank
you
very
much
appreciate
the
claps.
We
appreciate
all
the
all
the
hard
work
and
I
look
forward
to
I
look
forward
to
seeing
what
you
all
come
up
with
I'm
most
inter
I,
think
I
think
you
know
this
is
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
horsepower
on
this
team,
so
all
the
best
and
Jack.
Thank
you.
It's
I
appreciate
you
coming
on
my
last
time
that
was
we've
been
we've
journeyed
together
a
long
long
time.
So
so,
thank
you
very
much.
G
Mary,
maybe
I
wanted
to
say
from
the
County's
perspective.
You
you've
been
fantastic.
You
and
Frank.
Are
you
following
that
tradition,
that
long
tradition
that
I
mentioned
at
the
board
meeting
the
other
night
Tom
Whipple
when
I
first
came
here,
Mary
Marcus,
Whipple
I,
can't
tell
you
a
number
of
days.
They
had
me
down
in
the
basement
talking
about
okay,
here's
what
we
need.
What
do
you
want
to
do?
How
can
we
achieve
this?
G
Can
kill
Pelton
I
mean
it's
great
I
mean
the
scholarly
man
like
him
over
50
to
100
books,
he's
written
just
top-notch
and
yourself
and
Frank
have
been
just
fantastic.
You
you're
going
out
of
your
way
to
try
to
understand
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
in
accounting
what
I
was
trying
to
achieve
and
he
took
the
time
he
listened.
You
know
we're
gonna
miss
that
that
consideration
and
he
understood
the
role
of
the
Commission
in
terms
of
advising
the
board
were
necessary,
but
also
understanding
the
needs
of
of
what
we
were
trying
to
achieve.
G
So
for
my
personal
thank
you
to
you,
I
should
tell
you
I'm
gonna,
let
you
in
on
something
else
that
we
had
happen
the
other
day,
and
this
is
supposed
to
be
embodied,
but
we
were
awarded
number
one
digital
County
again
for
the
year,
2022.
A
G
A
G
G
A
My
pleasure,
thank
you
thank
all
of
you.
I
really
appreciate
it,
and,
and
so
we
will
it
with
with
two
minutes
to
go.
I
will
I
will
entertain.
I
will
entertain
a
motion
to
adjourn.
A
K
A
Right
all
right,
everybody
have
a
good
summer
and
Frank
and
John
will
see
you
in
August
or
actually.
E
A
Right
and
we
will
find
out-
he
really
did
intend
to
be
here
tonight
so
and
to
address
some
of
those
questions.