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A
B
12Th
meeting
of
the
tenant
landlord
commission-
this
is
Ryan
Whitaker
serving
as
interim
chair
for
the
next
few
minutes
until
David
Tim
arrives.
So
the
first
item
on
our
agenda
is
the
public
comment?
Perioda?
Do
we
have
anyone
there's
no
one
in
the
room
from
the
public
here?
Do
we
have
anyone
online
to
make
a
public
comment.
D
B
Off
of
that
to
the
next
agenda
item,
thank
you
curious.
So
June
meeting
notes
approval
those
were
distributed
a
while
back
I
believe
and
for
a
commissioner
review
and
comment.
B
B
C
Sorry,
excuse
me
David
Ryan,
before
you
move
on,
we
do
have
a
minor
change
to
the
agenda
and
the
netsu.
The
director
has
a
few
words
to
to
sing.
B
A
C
E
Yes,
good
good
evening,
everyone,
my
name
is
Vanessa
street
I'm
with
the
Arlington
County
Housing
Choice
Voucher
Program,
here
joining
me
this
evening
is
Tony
Stevenson.
He
works
with
us
as
a
special
programs
coordinator.
We're
going
to
give
you
some
updated
information
about
the
opening
of
our
housing.
Choice
voucher,
waiting
list
in
upcoming
months
and
will
be
relatively
quick
timing
is
going
to
take
a
charge.
We're
given
the
basic
body
of
the
presentation
and
I
will
join
him
at
the
end
for
questions
and
answers.
F
Hi
everyone,
the
next
one.
So
this
is
just
a
quick
informational
presentation.
F
There
we
go.
This
is
a
little
bit
of
background
on
the
Arlington
Choice
voucher
program
to
refresh
everyone.
We
are
the
the
core
program,
a
part.
Basically,
the
core
office
part
of
DHS
overall
and
specifically
the
housing
assistance
Bureau
that
administers
our
federally
funded
housing.
Subsidy
programs
like
Section,
8,
section
eights,
the
the
big
one
or
core
program,
and
that's
the
the
wait
list
that
we're
currently
working
on
opening
is
for
basically
Arlington's
housing,
Choice,
voucher,
Section
8
program.
F
This
has
been
a
a
background
on
the
wait
list
so
because
this
is
a
federally
funded
program,
it's
it's
funded
by
Hud
and
there's
a
specific
Federal
requirements
that
come
into
play.
One
of
these
requirements
is
that
we
maintain
a
wait
list.
So
basically,
you
know
a
wait
list
for
the
the
actual
subsidy
The
Vow,
the
vouchers
there's
far
more
demand
and
eligibility
than
there
is
actual
supply
of
vouchers.
F
So
we
maintain
this
wait
list
and
every
decade
or
so
we
open
the
wait
list
to
add
to
new
applicants,
and
then
we
refill
it
and
then,
as
new
vouchers
become
available.
We
move
people
up
up
and
off
the
wait
list
and
and
get
them
their
voucher,
their
subsidy,
so
they
can
go
and
find
housing
in
the
county.
F
F
So
you
know
thus
it's
time
to
open
the
wait
list
again
and
we're
conducting
a
large
marketing
campaign,
we're
going
to
be
conducting
a
large
marketing
campaign
and
coordinating
across
the
county
with
various
stakeholders
to
ensure
there's
a
lot
of
understanding
in
the
public
that
this
is
happening
to
make
sure
that
everyone
has
a
chance
to
apply
to
to
be
to
get
on
the
wait
list.
We
fill
the
wait
list
through
a
lottery
system,
so
basically
folks
apply
submit
their
application.
F
We
conduct
a
lottery
and
then
we
take
several
thousand.
We
haven't
determined
the
thing.
An
exact
number
I
think
we're
aiming
for
5
000
right
now.
We
take
a
certain
number
of
those
out
of
the
certain
number
of
those
applicants
and
sticks
them
on
the
wait
list
and
we
work
off
that
wait
list
for
for
around
a
decade,
income
eligibility.
This
is
calculated
by
by
Hud
every
year.
F
75
of
program
participants
must
be
extremely
low
income.
The
other
25
must
be
very
low
income
and
what
that
means?
It's
it's
a
calculation
based
on
Ami,
extremely
low.
You
can
see
on
the
chart
there
we're
talking
folks
making
between
30
30,
000
and
50
000,
roughly
depending
on
family
size
dollars
a
year,
that's
kind
of
who's
eligible
for
the
program
and
less
obviously
so
major
HUD
requirements.
So
because
this
is
a
federally
funded
and
regulated
program,
the
county
has
a
lot
less
to
do
with
actually
regulating
the
program.
F
The
HUD
Hud's
requirements
are
really
the
the
primary
thing
we're
concerned
with.
So
primary
requirements
from
HUD
include
that
we
must
proactively
notify
the
public
of
the
opening
through
things
like
this
presentation,
press
releases,
which
we're
planning
to
do
a
large
flyer
campaign.
That
kind
of
thing
we
must
conduct
affirmative,
Outreach
and
marketing
to
ensure
an
equitable
process.
To
make
sure,
basically,
the
entire
County,
the
entire
Community
is
aware
that
this
is
happening
so
that
everyone's
got
a
chance
to
apply.
F
We
need
to
structure
the
wait
list,
opening
and
management,
language
and
disability
and
age
and
family
accessibility,
so
through
things
like
ensuring
that
there's
availability
for
you,
know
special
accommodations
right,
reasonable
accommodations
that
that
sort
of
thing
preferences.
So
when
folks
apply
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
national
application,
because
it's
a
federally
funded
program,
so
people
can
apply
from
all
across
the
country,
but
we
have
a
little
bit
of
control
over
who's
prioritized
through
preferences.
F
You
can
think
of
this
as
basically
a
multiplier
effect,
for
the
number
of
you
know
balls
that
go
into
the
bingo
cage.
If
you
will
so
if
you
live
or
work
in
Arlington,
that's
a
preference,
if
you're
homeless,
if
you're
a
victim
of
domestic
violence,
if
you're
a
disabled
household
that
qualifies
either
for
permanent
Supportive,
Housing
or
that
would
qualify
under
the
Olmstead
act.
F
Those
are
also
preferences,
so
we've
got
a
lot
of
if,
if
you
know
to
try
and
basically
Target
this
assistance
as
best
we
can
at
locals
and
folks
who
who
most
need
it
prize.
So
this
is
a
summary
of
of
the
current
status
of
the
project.
We've
done
a
lot
of
work.
Already:
we've
created
internal
project
plan,
we've
organized
an
advisory
committee.
F
That's
what
we've
been
actively
working
with.
We've
created
a
marketing
plan
and
we've
also
drafted
a
flyer
application
tutorial,
FAQ
various
things
that
are
going
to
go
into
ensuring
that
everyone
can
can
apply.
Who
wants
to
apply
the
primary
means
of
application
is
going
to
be
online.
Another
major
change,
the
last
time
we
opened
the
wait
list.
F
This
is
a
big
change
for
us
in
2012
it
was
a
first
come
first
serve,
so
people
actually
had
to
physically
come
to
I
believe
DHS.
What's
the
location
and
wait
in
line
and
applied,
it
was
like
the
first.
You
know,
however,
many
people
who
apply
got
on
the
wait
list
this
this
time
around
we're
doing
it.
We've
switched
to
a
lottery
system,
which
is
a
much
more
Equitable
process.
F
It
doesn't
require
nearly
as
much
in-person
effort,
so
basically
folks
are
going
to
have
you
know,
maybe
a
week
or
so
we're
aiming
for
something
around
a
week
in
early
fall.
It
isn't
fully
solidified
in
which
people
can
anyone
who
wants
to
can
apply
and
then,
like
I,
said
it's
going
to
go
into
a
lottery
system
and
we're
going
to
you
know,
pull
pull
applications
from
that.
So
that's
a
change
from
the
last
time.
F
That's
kind
of
what
I'm
trying
to
get
at
other
things
that
we've
been
doing
we've
or
we're,
organizing,
with
experience
advisory
committee
of
basically
folks
who've,
received
Assistance
or
gone
through
the
the
application
process
previously
to
advise
us
on
our
materials
and
make
sure
that
the
system,
the
online
application
portal
makes
sense
to
them.
F
You
know
we're.
Gonna,
have
a
website
process
released
it's
going
to
go
out
to
the
county
and,
like
I,
said
we're
hoping
for
early
fall.
F
This
is
a
question
for
landlords,
because
this
is
the
first
engagement
we've
had
with
landlords
on
this.
What
would
be
the
best
method
for
the
dissemination
of
the
information
to
your
attendance
that
might
be
eligible
and
interested
if
we
provided
Flyers,
you
know
understanding
that
mailings
large
mass
mailings
are
expensive,
but
trying
to
just
get
the
word
out.
You
know
in
landlords.
Obviously,
y'all
are
most
in
communication
with
the
tenants
in
the
county,
so
this
is
something
to
help
inform
our
process.
F
That's
pretty
much.
It
like
I,
said
quick,
informational
presentation
and
we
can
move
on
to
questions
and
comments.
B
B
Do
actually
have
a
question
for
you
there
Tyler
so
I
we
run
a
I
run,
a
project-based
Section,
8
property
out
of
state,
not
in
Virginia.
So
I'm
wondering
do
you
do
who's
responsible
for
doing
the
recertifications
attendance
to
qualify
under
their
Section
8
vouchers?
Is
that
the
county,
or
is
that
who
does
that.
B
Yeah,
my
my
project
is
outside,
so
we
ours
is
Project
based,
but
these
are.
These
are
vouchers
that
can
go
with
the
that
can
go
with
the
tenants
right
to
wherever
they
choose
to
live.
So
I
assume
there's
an
annual
recertification
process
for
for
your
program
as
well.
What
does
that
the
county,
or
somebody
else
it.
E
Would
be
the
county
in
that
particular
case,
it
would
mean
that
they
would
use
their
existing
voucher
and
pour
it
into
Arlington
County.
They
don't
have
to
go
through
another
waiting
list.
If
they're
already
involved
in
Hud's
tenant
base
housing,
Choice,
Voucher,
Program,
there's
a
portability
element.
B
B
C
B
My
my
second
question
is
any
any:
my
understanding
is
any
project
that
receives
federally
funded
housing
dollars
is
potentially
subject
to
complying
with
you
fast.
The
uniform,
Federal
accessibility
standards.
Are
you
familiar
with
that?
Does
that
apply
to
tenant-based
vouchers,
or
do
you
have
any
idea.
E
Yes,
I
do
have
an
idea,
yes,
they're
responsible
for
the
inspection
standards.
Hud
is
actually
just
released.
Some
new
federal
regulations
about
the
inspection
standards
we're
waiting
for
Hud's
release
of
the
implementation
details
anytime
now,
so
new
regulations
came
out
in
February
of
this
year
about
that
actual
housing
standards.
D
Right
here,
all
right
so
often
during
the
yearly
budget
hearings,
speakers
say
that
if
Arlington
County
could
could
get
could
improve
affordable
housing
by
better
funding
housing,
Choice
vouchers,
rather
than
some
of
the
other
things
that
they
fund
ahip
vouchers.
So
my
question
is:
if,
if
Arlington
County
were
to
increase
funding
would
be
housing,
Choice
vouchers
be
able
to
assist
more
people.
E
We
have
to
remember
that
the
housing
Choice
voucher
program
is
a
federal
program.
We
do
have
the
housing
grants
program,
you
know
in
Arlington
and
if
Arlington-
actually,
let's
say
they're
they've,
been
talking
for
a
couple
years
now
about
perhaps
modifying
some
of
the
requirements
for
housing
grants,
then
they
could
actually
award
that
program.
You
know
perhaps
some
additional
funding
that
would
extend
their
ability
to
actually
assist
more
individuals,
but
that
would
have
to
go
through
the
County
Board
and
everything
in
order
to
be
able
to
do
that.
H
F
So
the
the
current
marketing
plan
has
us
working
with
stakeholders
across
the
county.
Big
focuses
include
making
sure
that
there
are
Flyers
up
and
libraries
community
centers,
affordable
housing
properties-
hopefully
through
like
ahc,
for
example,
as
well
as
working
very
closely
with
the
COC,
the
Continuum
of
Care
and
that
manages
our
homeless
infrastructure,
so
ensuring
that
there's
a
proactive
notification
in
the
shelter
system,
for
example,
as
well
as
arming
direct
service
providers.
Folks
who
work
on
the
street
with
information
to
help
the
on-street
homeless
applied.
F
So
it's
gonna
be
a
large.
You
know
a
large
flyer
kind
of
distribution
project
we're
also
talking
about
potentially
getting
Flyers
into
things
like
laundromats,
for
example,
throughout
the
county.
F
So
that's
kind
of
you
know
that's
what
we're
looking
at
and
that
that
end,
we're
also
going
to
have
a
presence
on
the
web
and
there's
going
to
be
a
large
press
release
potentially
we'll
we'll
have
two
press
releases,
and
that
goes
out
to
around
1500
Regional
media
Publications
to
the
county
and
and
the
region
overall.
So
you
know
all
your
big
newspapers,
for
example.
F
So
that's
that's.
What
we're
talking
about
currently.
H
I
work
very
closely
with
the
national
Landing
bid
here
at
Arlington
and
I
know
they
have
access
to
like
myself
and
like
other
landlords
in
in
Arlington
County.
So
maybe
it's
be
good
for
y'all
like
work
through
the
bid.
The
bid
system
here
in
here
in
the
county
like
send
those
notifications
out
via
email
to
landlords
and
they
can
like
disburse
those
to
their
residents
that
they
have
on
file.
H
Yeah
they
have
like
distribution
lists
for
all
of
their
like
big
landlords
in
the
County
Texas
or
in
their
their
District.
So
that's
what
we
use
a
lot
to
like
okay
stuff,
like
this,
so
I.
B
G
H
Like
distribution
list,
they
send
stuff
out
like
like
this
I
mean
not
actually
just
like
this,
but
things
like
this.
It's
like
myself,
other
landlords
like
Equity
at
Bombay
and
then
most
of
those
out
to
all
of
our
residents
through
like
an
e-blast.
G
That
yeah,
yeah,
okay
and
I
had
a
question.
I
think
you,
you
might
have
alluded
to
it.
When
you
answered
Aaron's
initial
question
about
distribution
of
Flyers,
but
to
me
it
sounded
like
the
only
way
to
apply
was
online.
Is
that
correct
or
no.
F
We're
also
going
to
have
paper
application
documents
for
folks
who
can't
apply
online
if
it's
like
a
reasonable
accommodation,
but
we're
expecting
the
vast
majority
of
people
to
be
able
to
apply
online.
We're
also
looking
at
having
like
in-person
technical
assistance
available
a
couple
days
throughout
the
week.
If
someone
doesn't
have
internet
access
at
home,
as
well
as
trying
to
make
available
information
on
like
where,
where
can
you
go
right
to
access
a
computer?.
E
We
will
also
partner
with
the
libraries
we're
developing
partnership
with
the
library
so
that
several
of
the
locations
will
be
trained
on
the
details
of
how
to
use
the
online
portals
and
would
be
readily
available
throughout
the
county.
Instead
of
just
one
prime
location
and
but
basically,
online
application
is
going
to
be
used
unless
there's
a
special
need
and
then
we
will
definitely
provide
reasonable
accommodations.
G
E
Yes,
it
is,
we
will
have
a
lot
of
information
on
our
website.
You
know
with
details,
step-by-step
process
of
going
through
the
process,
and
we
will
also
have
a
video
you
know
it
would
be
either
be
given
well
will
be
available,
both
in
written
format
and
video,
to
instruct
the
individuals
how
to
get
through
the
process
and
help
lines.
They
will
be
able
to
call,
of
course,
certain
hours,
okay,
in
order
to
get
technical
assistance
from
a
designated
staff.
G
Great
well,
thank
you
so
much
both
of
you
for
attending
and
giving
that
presentation.
I
found
it
valuable
and
I
look
forward
to
hearing
how
the
efforts
turn
out.
E
In
the
fall
we
had,
we
had
not
finalized
an
exact
date.
You
know
so
we're
working
with
advisory
committees
in
order
to
do
that.
But
as
soon
as
it's
finalized,
you
know,
we're
able
to
tell
you
it's
going
to
be
early
fall
is
what
we
anticipate.
Okay.
Thank
you
all.
So.
G
Thank
you
all
right.
The
next
agenda
item
is
the
Clarendon
courts
complaint.
Actually
they
wanted
to
answer.
Oh
yeah,
thank
you
and,
if
you're
available,
I
think
we're
ready
for
you.
A
A
I
wanted
to
come
and
speak
with
all
of
you
because
of
the
email
that
we
received
in
June
and
I
wanted
to.
Let
you
know
we
really
do
appreciate
David
you
reaching
out
to
share
the
tenant
landlord
commission's
concerns
and
just
to
re-emphasize
to
all
of
the
Commissioners.
A
The
staff
really
values,
our
collaboration
with
commissions,
TLC
and
all
of
our
commissions,
and
it's
always
helpful
to
know,
commission
perspectives
and
experiences,
and
so
while
the
lines
between
staff
and
commissions
must
remain
clear
and
distinct,
we
do
value
opportunities
to
share
ideas
and
we'll
continue
to
be
intentional
about
soliciting
commission
input
when
it's
feasible
and
also
when
it's
appropriate
and
so
just
an
example
of
very
effective,
is
with
TLC's
alternative
dispute
resolution
subcommittee.
A
A
It's
just
been
really
helpful
and
supporting
the
County's
policy
goals,
so
I
think
that
that
really
can
be
a
model
that
we
can
look
to
follow
going
forward
and
so
David
I
know
you
and
I
had
an
opportunity
to
talk,
and
one
of
the
other
things
that
we
spoke
about
is
staff's
role
in
supporting
subcommittee
meetings
and
given
that,
unless
we
know
ahead
of
time,
you
know
if
certain
staff
need
to
be
at
meetings,
that
staff's
role
largely
is
a
logistical
one,
opening
the
room
managing
technology,
those
types
of
things,
and
so
because
of
that
we
really
do
encourage
subcommittees
to
continue
to
share
substantive
updates
and
the
larger
commission
meetings
like
these,
which
I
know
you
do
already,
and
so
I
think
just
continuing
to
do
that,
so
that
we
can
continue
to
make
content
connections
when
possible
and
I
think
also
it's
very
beneficial
when
subcommittees,
develop
and
share
agendas
ahead
of
time
and
also
identify
needed
staff
resources
in
advance
of
meetings.
A
And
so
this
is
helpful
both
for
staff
to
support
the
subcommittee's
work.
So
again,
if
there's
a
certain
staff
resource
that
would
be
really
helpful
to
have
at
a
meeting,
we
can
try
to
make
that
happen
as
schedules
permit,
but
it
also
helps
ensure
that
your
all's
time
is
used
as
effectively
as
well,
because
we
recognize
and
appreciate
that
all
of
you
are
volunteers.
A
So
the
last
thing
just
again
to
Echo
the
conversation
David
that
you
and
I
had
is
the
staff
is
continuously
working
to
improve
the
County's
approach
to
to
working
with
commissions,
and
so,
for
example,
right
now
we're
looking
at
ways
that
we
can
streamline
the
process
for
seeking
help
with
legal
questions
and
we're
looking
to
share
that
when
we
have
more
information.
So
that's
something
that
we're
working
with
the
manager's
office
and
our
department
director
on
so
I'll
pause.
There
I
know
that
that
was
a
lot
of
information
and
David.
A
G
G
Of
course,
we
would
be
totally
ineffective
without
the
things
that
you
all
do,
and
you
know
by
the
same
token,
I
think
that
the
frustration
Express
was
was
valid
and
you
know
we
we
we
need
your
help
to
to
do
certain
things
and
I
think
that
you
know
there
was
a
breakdown
on
this
particular
occasion
and
I
I.
Don't
expect
it
to
be
the
thing
that
happens
in
the
future
and
it's
not
something
I've
seen.
G
You
know
significantly
in
the
past,
so
I'm
hopeful
that
we'll
be
able
to
make
a
good
New
Path
forward
here.
From
from
this
point
on.
I
B
And
a
colleague
whose
name
I
can't
remember
off
top
my
head,
I
apologize
presented
some
materials
that
that
we
saw
at
that
subcommunity
for
the
first
time.
Do
you
you
know
additional
materials
that
you
all
were
creating
or
your
office
was
creating
to.
B
You
know,
provide
additional
information
on
various
County
programs
and
services,
not
all
housing
division.
You
know.
Obviously
some
stuff
was
Department
of
Human,
Services
and
other
places.
So
are
you
I,
assuming
you
all,
are
still
working
through
that
process
and
do
you
plan
to
I
assume
you
plan
to
communicate
that
with
the
TLC
at
some
point,
when
appropriate,
can
you
can
you
talk
about
that?
A
little
bit.
A
Yeah
I'm
happy
to
so
so.
The
the
effort
that
Ryan
commissioner
Whitaker
is
referring
to
is
part
of
our
cast
strategies,
and
so
that
is
an
effort
that
we've
been
working
on
over
the
last
year
and
so
basically,
as
you
indicated,
it's
not
only
the
housing,
division
and
cphd,
but
it's
really
across
departmental
efforts.
A
So
we
have
resources
from
police
and
DHS
and
fire
and
and
all
sorts
of
folks
around
the
county
were
able
to
contribute
to
this,
and
so
staff
wanted
to
provide
a
preview
of
the
materials
the
packet
before
it
was
finalized
to
the
Outreach
subcommittee
and
so
that
packet,
the
materials
are
actually
in
process
now,
meaning
they're
going
to
print
now
and
being
assembled
now,
so
that
they
can
be
distributed
to
the
calf
residents
who
reside
or
the
residents
who
reside
in
our
CAF
units
around
the
county.
A
So
we're
looking
to
do
a
distribution
it'll
be
to
over
11
000
units
when,
when
it's
ready
to
go
and
we've
been
working
with
bugatta,
actually
to
help
they'll
be
helping
with
that
distribution.
So
we're
really
excited
about
it.
It's
I
think
long
overdue.
A
Given
the
amount
of
information.
That's
available
to
our
residents
and
we
received
feedback
over
the
last
couple
of
years
that
many
residents
weren't
sure
how
to
access
these
resources,
and
so
it
really
is
meant
to
be
a
way
to
kind
of
consolidate.
All
of
that
information
representing
again
many
departments
within
the
county,
so
sort
of
a
One-Stop
shop
like
almost
like
what
you
would
get
like
a
welcome
packet
when
you
move
into
a
it
that
kind
of
thing
in
one
single
source.
G
And
I
I,
don't
think
that
we've
I
don't
think
the
TLC
has
received
the
final
materials
it
sounds
like
they
are
final.
Would
we
be
able
to
get
a
copy
of
all
the
different
I
know?
There
are
different
iterations
right.
A
G
So
so
the
reason
I
bring
it
up
is
we
we
had
the
the
Outreach
subcommittee.
Was
it
two
days
ago?
Yeah.
G
Sorry
time
is
a
not
a
thing
anymore,
but-
and
we
were
talking
in
in
the
subcommittee
that
we
would
essentially
you
know
again
alluding
back
to
my
email
in
an
effort
to
Not
Duplicate
work,
see
what
we
can
take
from.
You
know
what
the
county
has
so
professionally
put
together:
I
I
presume
in
terms
of
resources
and
and
piggyback
off
of
those
and
then
move
forward,
potentially
with
a
recommendation
to
the
County
Board
about
Distributing
those
two
more
than
just
calf
unit,
tenants
throughout
Arlington.
F
G
Going
to
talk
about
it,
we're
going
to
talk
about
it
more
in
detail
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
in
the
in
the
subcommittee
reports
section
but
I
think
it'd
be
it'd,
be
very
helpful
to
get
that.
You
know
quickly,
so
that
we
have
a
chance
to
turn
it
around
sooner.
A
I'll
work
with
staff
just
to
confirm
that
we
have
those
PDFs
ready
to
go,
or
whatever
version
that
they're
in
that
we
sent
to
print
so
that
we
can
provide
that
and
we'll
we'll
work
with
world
to
share
that.
With
all
of
you.
G
Great
great
okay,
I,
don't
think
I've
got
anything
else
on
the
topic,
any
other
commissioners.
A
G
G
Right
thanks
so
much
okay.
Moving
to
the
second
official
item
on
our
on
our
agenda
here
is
the
Clarendon
Court's
complaint
report
rolled
up
I,
believe
you
have
some
additional
information
to
give
us
about
that.
C
So,
apart
from
what
was
sent
and
I
hope,
you
can
see
the
screen
apart
from
what
was
sent,
not
really
it
isn't
additional
information.
So
this
is
an
update.
It
combines
the
housing
divisions,
inspection
report
with.
G
Hey
Rhoda,
can
you
I
think
you're
sharing
the
the
file
explorer
rather
than
the
actual
document
right.
C
Now
so
an
adult
well
I'm,
seeing
the
document
on
my
end.
Okay,
sorry,
let
me
try
to
get
out
and
try
to
do
this
again.
Yeah
bear
with
me
this
is
you
know
this
is
Hector's.
You
know
his
major
his
his
expertise.
He
is
missing,
so
let
me
do
what
I
can.
C
Sorry
I
I
have
to
document
right
here.
Sorry,
let
me
see
if
it
comes
up.
Let
me
know
if
it's
showing
please.
C
C
I
also
have
I
think
I
also
sent
it
around
a
couple
of
the
people
with
just
to
serving
you,
because
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
get
it.
Yeah.
D
C
So
the
the
report
talks
about
the
trash
regular
trash
service
actually
on
four
four
days
a
week,
Monday
Wednesday,
Friday
and
Saturday,
and
recycling
on
Tuesday
and
Friday,
so
that
there
is
no
code
enforcement
violation
regarding
trash
because,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
the
court
enforcement
indicates
that
this
property
is
above.
It's
served
above
average
with
trash
pickup
collection
in
terms
of
pest
control.
The
bushes
have
been
removed,
as
we
had
seen
last
year,
and
the
pest
control
contractor
monitors
this
area
closely.
C
Accessible
parking
they've
indicated
that
the
accessible
bargain
spots
are
free
of
barriers
and
pests
and
Property
Management.
In
addition
to
County
Court
enforcement
and
housing
compliance
staff,
they
did
not
find
any
issues
with
these
areas
when
they
inspected
bear
in
mind.
Inspections
are
done.
You
know
Monday
through
Friday
a
lot
of
what
of
the
photos
that
we've
seen
of
this
property
have
occurred
on
the
weekend.
So
there
is
that
issue
right
and
in
terms
of
laundry
rooms,
all
of
the
laundry
rooms
have
been
have
locks.
C
G
C
So
when
they
see
it
on
this
email,
no,
they
are
not
cc'd
on
this
email,
they
have
been
informed.
They
will
the
last
conversations
of
exchange
that
took
place
between
Mr
hum
and
Court
enforcement
inspector.
You
know
you
know
she
pointed
out
that
this
happens
on
the
weekends
when
inspections
are
not
done
so
yeah.
G
G
B
I
mean
there's
a
landlord.
I
can
say
right
now
that
we're
having
at
our
properties
here
in
Arlington
and
then
Alexandria
this
spring.
If
something's
happened
with
the
rodent
population
and
I
mean
we,
we've
upped
our
Pest
Control
treatment,
I've
done
all
kinds
of
things,
so
it
seems
to
be
something
that
is
Mother
Nature
fighting
back
a
little
bit,
but
so
I.
It
sounds
like
this
is
a
lot
of
progress
made
by
the
land
guard
and
I.
B
H
I
would
have
the
same
thing
over
here
in
Arlington,
Crystal
City,
internet
City,
like
there's
a
ton
of
construction
as.
H
In
this
area
Clarendon,
you
know
Ross
and
Boston,
and
that
just
seems
to
like
exacerbate
the
problem
of
like
rodents,
because
they
just
have
to
go
somewhere
yeah
like
every
nearby
building,
because
that's
kind
of
what
we're
saying
the
same
thing
very
close
by
so.
G
I
live
over
there,
so
I'm
I
haven't
seen
any
yet
in
my
home,
but
well.
B
Just
about
I
mean
so,
for
example,
we
have
the
same
problem
as
far
as
about
you're
looking
for
food
right,
so
they're
going
to
trash
enclosures
and
things
like
that
and
that's
where
we
don't
have
any
in
our
buildings.
Thank
goodness,
but
they
are
well
sorry.
Unfortunately,
yeah
but
I
mean,
but.
F
H
B
G
A
A
Thank
you
for
that
summary,
and
the
only
thing
I
wanted
to
add
is
that
we
did
have
two
of
our
compliance
staff
also
visit
the
property,
so
in
addition
to
code
enforcement,
so
we
were
trying
to
hit
the
property
at
different
times
just
to
try
to
see
if
we
could
replicate
some
of
the
issues
that
the
resident
shared
with
the
commissions
at
the
Joint
meeting
in
May
and
so
I
will
say,
we're
encouraged
by
property,
Management's
response
and
I
think
similar
to
some
of
the
the
comments
that
Commissioners
have
shared
tonight.
A
They
really
are
trying
to
be
as
responsive
as
they
can
be
to
some
of
these
concerns
that
were
raised
so,
for
instance,
with
the
trash
pickup
they've
shifted
the
schedules
so
that
the
the
trash
is
coming
or
trash.
Pickup
is
coming
Friday,
Saturday
and
also
Monday,
so
really
trying
to
hit
that
that
weekend
time
as
much
as
possible.
Since
that's
when
the
concern
was
raised,
so
with
the
exception
of
Sunday,
you
know
they
really
are.
A
You
know
Friday
Saturday
and
then
Monday
trying
to
address
any
additional
volume
that
may
occur
over
the
weekend
so
but
the
rest,
David
I,
think
you
were
about
to
say
so.
I
don't
want
to
steal
your
thunder
just
about
the
ability
to
share
back
I
guess
what
staff
is
learning
or
what
property
management
may
wish
to
share.
When
we
hear
concerns.
G
Yeah,
no
I
think
it
can
be
demoralizing
to
hear
lots
of
complaints
and
then
not
be
sure
whether
things
get
resolved
and
it
sounds
like
you
know
again,
like
everyone
has
said,
nothing's
going
to
be
perfect.
We
all
live
in
buildings
that
are
older
than
perfectly
brand
new
and
in
places
where
rats
are
outside
and
trying
to
get
inside,
but
it's
good
when
we
can
make
and
progress
for
a
tenant
complaining.
You
know
I'd
love
to
be
solving
more
of
these
on
a
regular
basis
and
I.
G
Think
that
will
go
to
what
we
talk
about
later,
with
Outreach
get
more
people
to
come
in
and
bring
these
complaints
so
that
we
can
figure
them.
B
Out
one
thing
I'd
like
to
add:
if
I
could
is,
in
my
own
research
related
to
our
properties
here,
I
was
I,
did
a
little
research
to
see
if
Arlington,
like
many
other
jurisdictions,
has
some
kind
of
Municipal
Road
control
program
for,
like
you
know,
sewers
and
and
Fields
and
parks,
and
things
like
that
and
Arlington
County
does
not
DC
does,
for
example,
but
this
might
be
something
to
put
on
our
like
long-term
list,
because
it's
Arlington
densifies
and
becomes
more.
B
You
know
dense
Suburban
if
you
will
not
quite
not
quite
Urban
like
DC,
but
but
certainly
corridors
of
density
that
you
know
this
might
be
something
that
Arlington
might
be
forced
into.
G
Considering
at
some
point,
yeah
I,
really
like
that
suggestion,
we
hear
a
lot
about
rodents.
Yes,
so,
okay,
thanks
man,
anything
else
on
that
Rhoda.
C
No
nothing
more,
it
was
just
that
was
just
the
update
that
was
provided
by
stuff.
Okay,.
G
Thank
you,
I.
The
next
agenda
item
is
the
equity
framework
I'm,
not
sure
how
long
we
need
to
spend
on
this
I
think
we
talked
about
this
at
the
last
TLC
meeting.
G
G
G
He's
opening
it
up
so
I
think
you
know
everyone
got
a
chance
to
see
it
after
the
last
meeting.
I
think
it
was
distributed.
I
just
want
to
have
a
conversation
about
it
again.
This
is
something
that
was
passed
on
to
me
by
Callan
Beth
from
the
Housing,
Commission
and
I.
G
Think
that
you
know
the
goals
are
in
line
with
what
Arlington
is
you
know
interested
in
doing
and
making
sure
that,
when
we're
having
conversations
like
these
we're
considering
the
marginalized
groups
in
every
conversation
and
I
think
this
is
just
you
know
reaffirming
a
commitment
that
is
already
pre-existing
in
TLC
and
I
I
personally,
can't
think
of
any
any
reason
we
wouldn't
adopt
it,
but
I've
always
open
to
hearing
from
other
Commissioners.
G
So
right
there
it
is
yeah.
So
any
thoughts,
questions
comments.
B
G
It
like
they
did
so
unanimously
I'm
trying
to
think
if
there's
any
anything
else
that
contribute
to
the
discussion.
C
Is
that
what
we're
thinking
that
this
would
apply
most
to
now?
Forgive
me
I
I
know
you
know
which
it
applies.
Everything
the
county
has
adopted
an
equity
framework
and
so
basically
yeah
all
staff
and
all
staff
departments,
and
everyone
operates
under
that
Equity
framework.
Well,
they're,
it's
not
being
called
an
equity
framework
as
an
equity
resolution,
so
specifically
for
the
tenant
landlord
commission.
What
does
this
mean
or
what
does
it
applied
to?
Where
would
we
apply
this
Equity
framework
in
terms
of
our
function?
Yeah.
G
I
think
it's
a
great
question.
Well,
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
situations
where
we
could
do
a
better
job,
just
vocalizing
some
of
these
things,
for
instance,
when
you
know
you
give
a
good
suggestion
already
going
through
the
the
relocation
process.
Maybe
we
consider
taking
a
closer
look
at
the
relocation
guidelines
and
ensure
that
I
think
it
probably
is
already
compliant
with
the
equity
framework,
but
to
the
extent
that
there
are,
you
know,
landlord,
specific
or
not
landlord,
specific,
but
property,
specific
issues
that
relate
to
these
issues.
G
You
know
we
should
be
having
them
more
at
the
front
of
our
mind
than
the
back
and
then
I.
Think
anytime,
we
have
someone
come
in
with
a
complaint,
I
think
it's.
It's
probably
a
good
idea
for
us
to
just
sort
of
you
know
at
least
mentally,
think
about
these
decisions
might
affect
an
impact
and
whether
it
might
be
outsized
based
on
one
of
these
protected
populations.
B
Disagree
with
that,
but
I
would
I
would
also
counter,
though
you
know,
I,
don't
I
think
we
can
keep
that
in
mind
when
we
hear
some
of
the
things
that
we're
involved
in
various
subjects,
like
you
said,
a
relocation
process
or
relocation
plans,
things
like
that,
but
I
I
think
we
can.
We
can
keep
this
in
the
back
of
our
minds
as
a
guiding
thing
for
the
commission,
but
I
don't
think
we
can
say
you
know
we
can't
say
well,
you
feel
like
you're
being
discriminated
against,
because
then
that's
a
leading.
G
Totally
hear
you
on
yeah
yeah
I,
don't
think
it
should
be
like
a
leading
question
type
thing:
it's
more.
You
know
like
when,
when
we
had
the
complaints
recently
about
from
Clarendon
courts-
and
we
were
talking
about
the
the
accessibility
issues
with
with
parking
I
mean
they-
they
brought
up
those
issues
inherent
in
the
plane,
right
and
I.
Think
you
know
that's.
D
Go
the
relocation
survey
or
the
relocation
plan
books
about
income
of
people
that
live
there
does
not
actually
answer
these
questions,
so
that's
something
to
think
about
it
is
these
questions
are
not
you
do
not
get
the
answers
to
these
questions
as
part
of
that
survey,
we
don't
require
it
so
I
mean
that's
something.
No
I
mean
I'm.
Just
saying
that
the
answers
to
these
questions
are
not
part
of
the
tenant.
B
D
G
Find
out
well
I
think
just
just
to
break
into
curious
point.
I,
think
that
you
know,
for
instance,
I
know
that
whenever
so
sort
of
automatically,
whenever
we
talk
about
the
relocation
plans,
we
ask
about
the
the
the
primary
language
of
the
residents
that
the
relocation
plans
are
communicated
to
them
effectively.
G
I
can't
recall
whether
that's
built
into
our
relocation
guidelines
or
if
it's
something
that
we
just
do
right,
and
these
are
sort
of
things
that
we
consider
just
doing
or
talking
about
and
I
take
your
point
about
not
like
well,
first
of
all,
overstepping
into
areas
where
you
know,
maybe
there
is
no
issue
but
again
I
I'm,
not
viewing
this
as
like
radically
rewriting
everything
about
how
the
TLC
acts.
G
It's
just
more
of
a
reminder
that
it's
guidelines
for
the
commission,
yeah
yeah,
that's
fair
and
and
if,
if
someone
wants,
you
know
if,
if
we
want
to
take
on
like
some
efforts
to
look
more
closely
at
our
relocation
guidelines,
for
instance,
that
would
be
well
within
our
Charter.
And
you
know
we
could.
You
know
make
sure
that
we're
considering
these
protected
classes
as
we're
going
through
as
part
of
the
review
process
I,
don't
know
whether
it
needs
that
I'm
not
suggesting
that
we
necessarily
do
it.
But
that
would
be
one
application.
B
B
G
Yeah
I'm,
not
yeah
I
was
just
referring
in
shorthand
yeah,
but
yeah
I.
Take
your
point.
Okay!
Well,
so
again,
I
think
you
know
this
is
the
sort
of
thing
we
pass
it.
It
is
like
a
part
of
our
Charter
essentially,
and
we
keep
it
at
the
Forefront
of
our
minds
as
we
review
processes,
it's
something
that
we
are
likely
already
doing
and
that
we
can
always
do
better
at
I.
G
I
understand
the
concerns,
but
I
would
still
like
to
put
it
forward
for
a
vote
yeah
so
to
adopt
another
to
adopt
the
okay.
Thank
you.
Ryan
can
I
get
a
second
all
right
that
was
Aaron
okay
here
in
second,
if
yes,
any
opposed
to
adopting
the
equity
framework,
all
right
yeah,
who
is
with
us
online
I,
I,
miss
it.
G
Chris
has
dropped
off
yeah,
okay,
I'm
just
gonna,
so
so
it's
just
Sarah
in
terms
of
Commissioners
online,
okay,
great
and
I-
don't
hear
any
any
no's,
so
the
rest
are
in
favor,
I
presume.
Yes,
yes,
okay
has
anyone
abstaining,
just
triple
checking
no
great
okay,
then
the
the
equity
framework
is
adopted
by
the
time
landlord
commission.
Thank
you.
All
that
will
bring
us
to
our
final
matter
on
the
agenda,
which
is
the
subcommittee
updates,
and,
let's
start
with
the
alternative
dispute
resolution.
I
I
Yeah,
so
we
met
with.
I
Last
month,
at
the
end
of
June,
to
kind
of
debrief
on
what
we've
been
learning
and
what
what
the
direction
that
we
had
at,
we.
G
I
We
are
drafting
a
letter
of
recommendations
that
we
are
planning
to
have
be
to
have
you
for
you
all
in
September,
but
to
give
a
highlight
of
that,
we
think
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
can
be
doing,
that
County
staff
at
TLC
can
be
doing
to
strengthen
than
we've
heard
it
here
tonight,
tenant
landlord
relations
in
general
and
how
the
county
assists
in
problem
solving
that
we
should
focus
on
first
before
adding
another
another
resource
that
can
call
it
another
thing
for
us
to
put
resources
in
when
we
can
really,
we
should
be
focusing
on
what
we
already
have
in
place
and
making.
I
So
what
we'll
be
doing
is
having
a
list
of
recommendations
on
where
we
think
that
those
things
can
be
improved
on
once
we
do
have
that,
and
part
of
that
is
collecting
more
data
on
like
how
many
what
is
unresolved,
when
someone
calls
into
when
someone
talks
to
Hector
or
rolled
up.
H
I
G
That
sounds
good
to
me.
I
I
would
love
for
you
guys
to
think
about
in
your
and
your
recommendations,
something
that
I've
been
thinking
a
lot
about
over
the
last
year,
which
is
making
our
internal
complaint
process
more
rigorous
sounds
like
you're
already
talking
about
fantastic.
I
G
Exactly
that
would
be
my
number
one
priority
and
something
that
I
haven't
done
a
perfect
job
of
in
facilitating
to
make
sure
that
Commissioners
are
kept
abreast
of
things
that
happen
outside
of
the
GLC
meetings
themselves.
So
yeah,
if
you
guys
have
time
to
think
more
deeply
about
it
and
get
a
regimented
internal
process.
G
G
B
G
Think
we
should
have
about
it.
You
drafted
a
letter
and
I
think
we
can
sort
of
talk
through
the
initial
draft.
I've
had
a.
B
Okay,
so
I
think
that
the
con
the
I
mean
I'll
just
say
personally,
I'm
I'm
I,
guess
a
little
disappointed
that
we
didn't
get
involved
in
some
of
the
effort
that
the
that
and
the
net
sales
department
had
been
working
on
for
quite
some
time
and
we
kind
of
relate
to
the
party
so
to
speak
and
I
find
it
interesting
because
it's
their
effort
was,
you
know,
kind
of
conducted
in
parallel
to
ours
and
so
I
think
that's
where
maybe
we
were
frustrated
had
we
known
we
might
have,
we
might
have
been
able
to
be
more,
provide
more
meaningful
participation
in
in
that.
D
B
B
But
our
effort
now
I
think
we
can
kind
of
shift
a
little
bit
in
terms
of
the
Outreach
subcommittee
and
and
the
I
think
there
are
two
gaps
really
that
I
see.
One
is
that
the
the
housing
division's
effort
is
really
focused
on
the
cath
units,
which
I
guess
Ann
said
there
were
roughly
I,
think
11
000
units
or
whatever
what
was
her
number
but
obviously
there's
a
much
broader
renter
population
in
Arlington
that
you
know
people
who
might
be
living
in
anything
from
luxury
class.
B
Today,
all
the
way
down
to
you
know
recalls
market
rate,
affordable
units
like
I
happen
to
own,
and
so
I
think
there
are
probably
a
lot
more
people
than
just
those
in
the
calf
units
that
could
benefit
from
a
better
awareness
of
County
resources
available
to
renters
in
Arlington
and
because
I
don't
think.
That's
a
pretty
robust
list
of
resources
available
at
least
online,
from
what
we've
been
able
to
see.
B
I
think
they're,
just
hard
hard
to
get
to
and
I
think
that
they
are,
that
that
bridging
that
gap
between
all
of
the
rental
population
in
Arlington
or
as
much
as
we
can
reach
and
some
of
the
resources
that
are
available.
It's
a
goal
that
we
can
take
on
and
and
probably
work
with,
housing
staff
or
housing
division
staff
or
whoever
is
right,
the
right
party
to
do
that.
B
If
the
legal
Authority
didn't
exist,
then
perhaps
there's
a
way
to
strongly
suggest
that
this
that
we,
you
know,
there's
a
link
created
between
you
know,
provided
by
landlords,
the
link
between
tenants
and
the
resources
that
are
available,
so
so
I
think
number
one
creating
filling
that
Gap
is
one
thing
and
then
reaching
out
to
the
broader
renter
community
and
content
is
the
other
big
topic
item,
and
so
we
talked
about
this
on
at
the
subcommittee
meeting,
but
I
drafted
a
letter
that
I
shared
with
David
just
yesterday,
so
it's
hot
off
the
presses
as
a
draft
that
kind
of
talks
to,
or
it's
addressed
to,
Matthew
Florentine
who's,
our
TLC
liaison.
B
B
G
But
no
I
don't
think
we
need
to
read
it
either
the
record
or
anything,
and
it
is
a
draft
but
I
think
that
the
other
aspect
of
our
conversation
on
Monday
was
I.
Think
all
Commissioners
received
the
response
from
accounting,
attorneys
Okay.
So
the
way
I
read
that
as
an
intern
was
you
can
do
this,
but
we're
not
sure
if
there's
like
necessarily
precedent
for
it,
I
don't
know
how
the
issue
you
know
it's
hard
to
get
a
good
reading.
G
They
didn't
say
no,
though,
and
to
me
that
is
an
opening
I
think
the
TLC
should
take
advantage
of
again.
Our
role
is
as
an
advisory
body
to
the
county.
We
don't
make
the
final
call
on
whether
any
of
your
resources
allocated
towards
this
or
whether
they
actually
want
to
require
it.
D
From
years
of
experience,
so
the
County
Board
makes
the
final
call.
The
county
attorney's
opinion
is
something
that
they
take
into
consideration
and
oftentimes.
The
county
attorney's
opinion
is
something
which
is
very
careful
because
they
don't
want
the
County
Board
to
get
into
some
legal
it.
You
know,
but
ultimately
the
County
Board
can
take
that
opinion
or
not
I.
G
B
Our
request
I
would
say
that
I
would
say
that
from
what
I
and
I'm
not
an
attorney,
but
I've
spent
a
lot
of
time
around
them.
It
seemed
like
something
that
was
maybe
not
thoroughly
researched
by.
You
know
some
of
the
more
senior
folks
but
I
suspect
that
if
we
were
to
make
this
proposal
to
the
board
and
the
board
started
asking
the
County
Attorney,
they
might
give
it
the
thorough
analysis
that
it
reserves
and
you
might
find
that
they
don't
have
the
unique
authority
to
do
it
under
the.
H
B
The
letter
that
I
drafted-
and
maybe
we
can
share
with
the
rest
of
the
commission
through
the
proper
channels
if
for
some
reason,
there's
a
legal
impediment
to
the
County
Board
requiring
it
then
perhaps
there's
another
way
to
just.
You
know
to
again
get
the
word
out
and
disseminate
it
on
a
more
best
efforts,
basis,
yeah,
but
I
think
it's
going
to
come
from
the
board
because
they're,
the
ultimate
policy
making
body
for
the
county.
B
B
You
have
to
provide
recycling
information
with
your
with
your
lease
and
you
got
to
provide
it
annually
thereafter
to
every
tenant
in
your
portfolio,
I
guarantee
you
don't
print
on
how
many
tenants,
you're
portfolio,
probably
thousands
but
I,
don't
print
out
thousands
of
flyers,
I
email
them
a
PDF
and
that
suffices,
and
it's
posted
in
my
laundry
rooms
right
so
I'm
I
comply
with
the
retract
requirements
and
stuff
like
that,
even
though
I'm
not
inspected,
but
you
know
so
tacking
on
a
PDF
to
the
list
of
all
the
other
leads
documents.
B
I
don't
see
as
a
heavy
ass
for
any
any
landlord
and
I
also
see
that
it's
frankly,
potentially
serving
landlords,
because
tenants
get
a
better
form
tenant
is
is,
is
helpful
to
the
landlord
too,
because
they're
going
to
understand
what
their
rights
and
responsibilities
are,
in
fact,
I
think
also,
within
the
last
couple
years
in
the
Virginia
state
general
assembly
required
the
you
know
that
list
of
Rights
and
responsibilities
between.
H
G
It
is
required
well
again,
I
I,
don't
think
anything.
Well,
let's,
let's
pause
for
a
second
and
I
think
this
is
an
interesting,
an
interesting
point.
Right
again
we
got
something
from
the
county
attorney
right.
That
didn't
say
no.
There
are
potential
other
routes
that
we
can
take
here.
G
G
You
know
you
mentioned,
for
instance,
nationality
bid,
the
landlord
Client
List
I
mean
there's
no
reason
we
can't
tap
into
some
of
the
resources
of
the
TLC
itself
has
to
push
things
things
out,
and
then
the
County
Board
can
do
it
at
an
even
larger
level,
again,
not
necessarily
as
a
requirement,
although
that
is
probably
our
ideal
scenario
right,
but
through
you
know,
through
its
through
its
power
and
then
the
last.
G
I
mean
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
me
and
that
would
be
an
enormous
win
that
would
affect
many
more
people
than
just
Arlington
County,
that
you
know
we
could
have
a
little
bit
to
do
it
right
and
so
I,
don't
know
whether
that's
incredibly
likely
to
happen
or
not,
but
I
think
this
is
the
sort
of
thing
that
TLC
is
designed
to
try
to
do.
B
What
the
other
piece
that
that
maybe
we're
all
forgetting
is
that
every
property
in
the
tax
assessment
database
is
classed
as
a
multi-family
asset.
So
it
might
be
all
that
hard
to
run
a
database
search
and
finding
the
addresses
of
these
multi-family
Assets
in
the
county
and
I'm
sure
there
are
thousands
of
them
right
above
a
certain
size,
and
you
know
and
find
use
that
as
a
resource
you
know
so
it
could
be
bids,
it
could
be
tax
records.
B
It
could
be
a
lot
of
different
ways
to
to
get
this
information
out,
and
most
of
it
can
be
done
cheaply,
I'm,
not
suggesting
that
we
go
out
and
print.
Fifty
thousand
Flyers,
like
that's
ludicrous
right,
but
again
the
case
that
I
made
in
this
letter
when
I
wrote,
the
initial
draft
was
hitting
send
them
an
email
where
the
PDF
attached
is
essentially
free.
G
I
B
I
think
if
we
had
a
product,
so
what
happened
was
our
process
in
the
subcommittee
kind
of
ground
to
a
halt?
A
couple
months
ago,
when
we
learned
that
there
was
a
duplicate
effort
going
on
what
we
viewed
as
a
duplicate
effort
with
what
the
housing
division
was
doing,
and
so
we
had
started
lining
out
like
the
kinds
of
information
that
we
wanted
to
have
on
this.
B
You
know
1K
pure
sort
of
information
guide
resource
guide
if
you
will
and
then,
when
we
learned
of
this
effort
of
additional
resources
being
generated
by
the
housing
division
and
Human
Services,
police
and
fire
and
stuff
like
that,
we're
like
wait
a
second.
You
know
we
don't
even
have
a
handle
on
all
the
resources
like.
So
we
don't
even
know
what
goes
in
this
thing,
so
so
I
think
we
could
once
that's
ready,
but
we
will
have
to
kind
of
reorient
ourselves
in
the
effort
to
create
this
resource
guide.
B
B
G
Will
I
mean,
maybe
so
so
yeah
if
you
want
I,
want
to
chart
like
a
path
forward
here
right
that
has
some
more
concrete
stuff
in
it.
I
think
there's
still
some
more
work
that
we
can
do
at
the
Outreach
Community
level,
because
there
are
like
something:
that's
contingent
possibilities
right,
we're
going
to
be
receiving.
Hopefully
within
you
know
a
couple
days,
if
not
tonight
or
tomorrow,
the
final
product
of
what
was
distributed
to
the
calf
to
the
cap
units
and
I.
F
B
You
know
showed
us
where
some
of
these
resources
that
we're
talking
about
exist
online,
but
they
took
different
clicks
and
different
searches,
and
you
know
blah
blah
blah
to
get
to
right
and
so
they're
hard.
It's
not
that
they
don't
it's
not
that
the
resources
don't
exist.
B
They
do
they're
just
sort
of
hard
to
find
and
they're
in
different
places,
and
you
know
kind
of
hard
to
get
to,
and
so
the
idea
here
that
this
is
evolved
into
is
to
provide
a
simple
one-page
guide,
you're,
probably
in
as
many
languages
as
we
can
online
right
and
and
connecting
the
tenants
and
saying.
Look
if
you
have
this
problem
go
to
here,
you
know:
go
to
this
web
address.
Call
this
number
at
this
department
and
include
not
just
County
departments
it
can
it
can.
It
can
be.
You
know.
B
Lsnb
or
bugatta,
or
you
know,
Community
groups,
and
things
like
that.
That
already
are
already
mentioned
in
a
lot
of
the
County
resources.
So
this
is
really
just
bridging
that
guide
or
sorry
bridging
that
gap
between
tenants
and
the
resources
that
already
exist
and
to
the
extent
that
the
resources
will
get.
G
Resources
are
getting
better
or
more
robust
that
the
county
is
producing
then
great
yeah,
yeah,
I,
think
so
I
don't
explain,
can
and
should
ultimately
make
recommendation
to
the
County
Board
whether
we
do
that
through,
like
this
sort
of
early
letter
straight
to
matte
differenti
and
he
provides
it
to
the
board
and
then
we
continue
to
explore
or
we
wait
and
you
know
hold
our
guns
until
we've
got
everything
ready.
G
I
think
is
for
discussion
tonight
right
and
then
the
the
other
aspects
here
can
be
debated
more
deeply
in
the
Outreach
subcommittee,
but
I
think
I
want
I
just
want
to
settle
on
exactly
what
the
next
steps
are
looks
like
the
world
does
or
have
them.
But
oh
yeah
go
ahead.
Roll
up.
C
I'm
sorry,
yes,
I
have
my
hand
up
because
I
you
know
this.
This
conversation
has
been
going
on
for
a
really
long
time.
For
the
last.
However,
many
months,
I
I,
it's
still
not
clear
in
my
mind.
What
is
it
the
product
that
is
coming
out
of
the
10
landlord
commission?
And
let
me
back
up
a
little
when
the
subcommittee
was
first
started.
The
focus
was
for
the
subcommittee
to
produce
a
document
specific
to
the
tenant
landlord
commission.
It
was
one
to
raise
the
visibility
of
the
tenant
landlord
commission.
C
It
was
not
a
resource
document,
but
I
think
this
is
where
the
duplication
has
occurred,
because
the
subcommittee
is
now
trying
to
produce
an
Outreach
resource
document
for
renters.
That
was
never.
That
was
never
the
the
original
intent
of
the
subcommittee.
This
subcommittee
was
going
to
work
narrowly
on
trying
to
increase
the
the
visibility
of
the
tenant
landlord
commission,
seeing
where
that
can
be
perhaps
inserted
in
various
documents,
Etc
and
other
things
that
are
already
going
out
being
distributed
by
various
non-profits
and
our
partners,
housing
partners
and
others.
C
B
So
roll
I
think
that's
a
great
point.
I
think
that
in
very
early
on
in
the
subcommittee
meetings
and
Matt
and
Karen,
you
guys
some
of
you
think
but
very
early
on
in
maybe
even
in
the
first
subcommittee
meeting
we
talked
about
you
know
we
could
certainly
make
people
more
aware
of
the
TLC
as
a
resource,
but
we
quickly
realized
that
we're.
B
You
know
we're
we're
just
volunteers
and
we
you
know,
we
can't
you
know
we
can't
TLC
has
a
limited
scope
and
a
limited
reach,
and
you
know
if
everybody
came
to
us
with
the
complaints
for
loan
or
tenant
disputes.
We
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
anything
else
right
and
so
I
think
you
write
in
that
the
scope
of
the
assignments
by
the
subcommittee
expanded,
but
but
very
deliberately
it
wasn't
just
by
accident,
so
I
think
it
was
I.
D
So,
to
be
honest
with
the
role
let's
talk
about
is
the
we
decided
to
merge
subcommittees
role
is
talking
about
is
what
the
previous
before
you
guys
joined
with
Chris,
windbush
bismar
and
myself.
What
we
came
up
with,
which
is
basically
Chris
when
we
designed
a
one-page
flyer
that
just
talked
about
the
tenant
landlord
commission.
So
that's
that's
essentially
what
we
started
with
that
we
merged,
and
we
took
that
one
page
today
and
we
decided
we
wanted
to
do
something
bigger
and
more,
and
so
that's
essentially
what
Roblox
talking
about
yeah
it.
H
D
B
We
agreed
I
mean,
can
you
imagine
if
we,
if
we
somehow
disseminate
all
that
information
about
TLC
and
we
had
500
people
show
up
at
every
meeting
and
then
exaggerating?
You
know
I
mean
that's.
Why
I'm
saying
like
you
know
a
lot
of
the
resources
for
a
lot
of
the
questions
we
get
are
already
that
information
is
available
to
renters
in
Arlington
and
Arlington
County
does
a
tremendous
job,
the
housing
division
and
other
divisions
of
providing
these
resources?
B
How
can
we
connect
people
because
we,
you
see
I,
think
we
all
see
it
all
the
time
people
show
it
to
the
commission?
Maybe
they
weren't
aware
of
certain
resources
that
we
can
then
point
them
to
whether
it's
their
lease
or
legal
aid
or
Regatta
or
or
you
know,
if
you're
LTA
or
whatever,
that
maybe
you
would
have
prevented
them
from
coming
to
the
TLC
in
the
first
place
and
answered
the
question
a
lot
more
simply.
G
Yeah,
okay,
yeah
I
I,
want
to
I
want
to
take
us
back
to
this
sorry
to
what
we're
going
to
do
here
today.
We've
had
a
lot
of
these
conversations
already
in
the
Outreach
of
community
meetings
and
I
think
we
are
fairly
set
on
what
we
want
to
do
and
happen
for
at
least
several
months.
G
So
the
the
thing
that
I
want
to
address
today
is
how
are
we
going
to
communicate
this
with
the
board
and
when
are
we
going
to
do
it
and
what?
What
are
we
going
to
tell
them
in
that
communication
right
and,
in
my
mind,
I
think
the
the
thing
that
I
would
suggest
that
we
do
is
we
we
tell
Matt.
This
is
what
we're
doing.
We
want
you
to
help
us
get
a
better
opinion
from
the
the
county
attorney
to
the
extent
it
exists
right.
G
Or
do
we
hold
back
and
sort
of
make
sure
that
we
have
every
single
one
of
our
ducks
in
a
row?
We've
got
the
document
done,
we've
done
a
detailed
analysis
of
our
own
that
integrates
whatever
the
County
Attorney
has
provided
to
us,
and
but
just
keeping
in
mind
that
that
effort
will
take
us
a
significant
amount
of
time.
We're
not
meeting
it
in
August.
The
TLC
is
not
meeting
in
August,
whether
a
subcommittee
meeting
happens
or
not.
I
don't
know
so.
My
suggestion
is
that
we
move
forward
with
a
letter
to
Matt.
G
This
doesn't
have
to
come
specifically
from
the
TLC,
so
you
know
I
we
can
make
it
between
CLC
and
you
guys
can
Empower
me
to
you,
know,
revise
Ryan's
draft
and
make
sure
that
it's
pointed
and
can
solve
things
that
we're
talking
about
here
today.
But
that's
my
suggestion.
G
As
we
move
forward,
we
want
a
more
detailed
opinion
and,
in
the
meantime,
the
Outreach
committee
Works
to
finish
its
actual
documents
and
considers
Alternatives
aside
from
just
the
requirement
for
all
landlords
and
again,
I
think
that
Emily's
point
should
be
in
there
in
those
discussions
as
well,
which
is
what
can
we
do
now
or
as
soon
as
possible
after
the
thing
is
drafted
on
our
own
without
the
County
Board,
because
I
think
we
we
have
plenty
of
power
to
distribute
these
things
within
our
networks.
B
Think
the
first
thing
I
agree
with
you
that
we
should
approach
Matt
sooner
than
later,
because
not
just
to
try
to
Spur
a
more
definitive
County
attorney
opinion
on
this,
but
also
because
Matt
I
think
will
give
you
especially
if
it's
you
temperature
right
he's
going
to
tell
you
whether
or
not
there's
political
will
to
introduce
something
like
this,
and
he
says
you
know,
County
attorney
might
say
it's
okay,
but
the
County
Board
isn't
really
interested
in
doing
anything
like
this.
B
Then
then
we
might
refuel
our
effort
along
the
lines
of
what
you
are
suggesting,
which
is
that
have
become
a
more
informal
thing.
That
is,
that
the
TLC
undertakes
directly
as
opposed
to
going
to
the
county
board.
I
would
I
wouldn't
want
to
do
because
I
think
we'll
be
you'll.
Get
tiresome
to
landlords
is
I,
wouldn't
want
to
try
to
get
out
to
some
people
and
not
others,
because
then,
assuming
that
we
do
go
down
the
path
where
it
becomes
a
requirement
or
a
strong
suggestion
from
the
County
Board,
it's
going
to
be
confusing
right.
B
It's
it's
going
to
be
it's
going
to
be
like
oh
wait,
a
minute.
Is
this
something
we
already
got,
and
you
know
the
other
thing
I
would
say.
Is
you
know
the
one
we
can?
We
can
draft
text
right,
but
we
will
need
a
few
County
resources
to
make
it
look.
We
can't
we
can't
show
not
what
it's.
B
What
it's
going
to
look
like,
without
having
some
kind
of
somebody
do
graphic
design
to
make
this
like
kind
of
look
closer
to
the
final
product
right
we
can
suggest
and
describe
what
the
document
would
be
in
a
letter
to
Matt
or
in
a
discussion
with
him,
and
let
him
decide
whether
or
not
he
thinks
that's
worth
in
his
time
and
a
board's
time
to
consider.
B
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
first
step,
and
this
letter
probably
goes
beyond
that
significantly
beyond
that,
and
so
maybe
this
is
a
letter
that
goes
out
later
when
we're
ready
to
actually
get
the
whole
board.
Okay,
and
so
maybe
this
can
be
shelved
and
a
shoulder
letter
that
asks
for
a
meeting
since
we're
considering
this
effort,
we'd
like
to
have
to
speak
with
you
regarding
the
legal
issues
around
it
and
the
political
will
to
do
it
and
and
and
meet
with
him,
as
just
as
our
liaison,
that's
sounds
like.
G
I'm
fine
with
that
I'm
fine
with
this
interim
step
and
then
Outreach
continues
working
on
its
own
to
to
get
the
initial
like
final
product
ready
for
a
final
push
to
the
board.
Does
that
sound
like
a
reasonable
at
least
the
text
of
it?
And
then
you
know
yeah.
B
I
think
we'll
probably
have
to
ask
Matt,
if
you
guys
have
to
say,
hey,
look.
You've
got
five
thousand
dollars
or
get
yeah
some
time
from
whoever
designs
these
things
on
behalf
of
the
county,
because
the
materials
that
we
thought
that
subcommittee
meeting
looked
pretty
good
yeah
and
if
that,
whoever
did
that
for
them
could
do
something
like
that
for
us
and
just
take
the
copy,
if
you
will
and
translate
it
into
something.
That's
looks
more
final
to
your
point.
Emily
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
something
that
we
want
him
to
support.
Yeah.
H
Right
I
just
agree
with
one
thing:
you
said,
because
I
think
that
it's
not
a
bad
idea
to
get
people
to
like
voluntarily
send
it
out,
but
I
want
to
do
that
until
you
have
like
a
final
professional
version.
Yeah
yeah
because
I
mean
even
if
you
said,
hey
voluntarily,
listen
this
out
and
then,
like
you,
came
a
year
later
and
said
now:
it's
mandatory
I
wouldn't
care
like
I'm
already
doing
it,
but
I
wouldn't
want
you
to
come
and
like
have
four
iterations.
I
It's
not
about
how
we've
been
focused
on
a
lot
of
Outreach
to
tenants
and
not
as
much
Outreach
to
landlords
and
using
this
as
an
opportunity
to
to
grow
that,
and
maybe
it's
not
hey,
includeness
and
everything
like
hey
here's
information
about
the
tenant
landlord
like
what
resources
we
provide.
What
resources
there
are
like,
maybe
something
you
just
like
have
in
your
lobby
or
like
something
like
that.
Like
there's
a
there's
steps
you
like
to
get.
G
There
I
think
I
think
it
would
be
interesting.
This
is
like
a
longer
term
project
and
also
we're
running
out
of
time,
but
it
would
be
interesting
to
try
and
have
like
a
landlord's
Summit.
You
know
we
have
tenants
Summits
routinely.
Just
the
TLC
can
get
a
better
landlord
perspective,
a
broader
base
of
landlord
perspective
than
you
know,
just
the
Commissioners
we
have
on.
G
It's
not
wrong.
Oh
man,
oh
man,
it's
hot,
okay,
good,
I!
Think
that's
what
we'll
do.
I,
don't
know
that
we
even
need
a
vote
for
that,
because
it'll
be
a
relatively
informal
thing.
I've
already
got
a
set
meeting
date
with
Matt
coming
up,
I
think
it's
next
week,
so
I'll
update
everyone
in
now
at
some
point
after
the
meeting
to
let
you
know
what
I
got
from
that
about
those
questions,
whether
we'll
get
something
from
the
County
attorney,
that's
different
or
more
detailed,
whether
they're
looking
more
politically
feasible.
G
The
last
thing
I'm
going
to
comment
on
is
unrelated
to
this
issue.
It's
we've
got
a
few
vacancies
and
also,
unfortunately,
commissioner
Royer
is
leading
Arlington
and
Community
designing
going
to
Herndon.
D
G
D
Keep
your
job
yeah.
G
But
unfortunately,
that
that
leaves
us
with
another
MTC.
G
G
So
nothing
interesting
public
interest
yeah,
so
we're
losing
a
public
interest.
We've
already
had
a
pre-existing
landlord
vacancy
and
we
are
likely
to
have
another
tenant
vacancy.
So
that's
the
shape
of
things
right
now
and
I'm
interviewing
to
I.
Think
one
is
for
public
interest
and
one
is
for
eign.
G
C
I
just
want
to
draw
the
attention
to
nofo,
which
is
the
announcement
for
funding
opportunity.
What
is
anyhow
so
that
is
our
large
Grant
from
the
federal
government,
Housing
and
Urban
Development,
our
heart
Grant,
and
we
issue
it
annually
and
it
is
up
available.
So
we
in
await.
We
are
asking
you
to
who
let
you
know.
Various
organizations
know
about
it.
C
That's
on
our
website,
and
so
we
just
launched
it,
and
it's
due
September,
8th
I
believe
so
there's
a
couple
of
months,
six
weeks,
eight
weeks
to
get
that
done.
So
it's
that
is
the
Grant
and
then
funding
that
we
use
to
fund
many
organizations
all
of
our
many
of
the
resident
service
projects
and
also
a
lot
of
you
know
whether
it's
homeless,
related
projects
and
or
after
school
programs,
some
employment
programs.
So
it
is
get
about
1.2
million
dollars
or
annually,
and
so
that
that
application
is
available
to
everyone.
G
You
provide
that
information
via
email
and
maybe
just
group
it
up
with
the
the
the
calf
resource
guide
for
whenever
you
get
that
to
pass
over
writing
Commissioners.
So
we
give
one
email.
G
Okay,
thank
you.
Rhoda
always
appreciate
your
help
and
thanks
Hector
any
other
things
from
Commissioners
excellent
you're.
None
you're
gonna,
get
a
motion
to
adjourn
I'll,
make
a
motion.
Thank
you
and
thank
you.
Aaron
yeah,
all.